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Challenge
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measure
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r
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Team
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Force
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Need, need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy, Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a big fan of the huge band.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledge fight.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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What's your bright spot?
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I was going to tell you that I have a dark spot.
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You have a dark spot.
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I was going to point at you and say that it was me.
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Yep.
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And it was going to be because I ordered Culver's again.
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Oh.
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And I got another concrete.
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Of course you did, you had to.
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I got the Cinnamon Toast Crunch one.
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Alright.
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It's so good.
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Oh it's also good.
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Yeah because here's what happens with Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
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Yeah.
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The texture of the cereal retains.
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Yeah, it's perfect, it's perfect.
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Yeah and that stays even within the shake concrete thing.
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Yeah.
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The cinnamon on the outside becomes absorbed by the ice cream.
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Right.
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So now you've got like horchata ice cream with a little texture.
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It's just, it's great.
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Yeah.
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So I was going to shame myself for that.
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Sure.
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But right before we started recording we got a Z in the mail bag.
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We got a little bit of a package and I'd like to say thank you to Carl from Big Jam.
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Jam?
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J-A-L-M.
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Oh.
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Big Jam.
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The L apparently, I see on the side, L is for love.
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Oh I get it.
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They sent a lot of mini jams.
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Yes they did.
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And I'm very excited to try some of these.
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There's one that's a habanero apricot and what's the strawberry one?
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Thai pepper?
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Thai strawberry, yeah.
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That sounds delicious.
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Ooh.
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That sounds very very good.
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Yeah so there are what, three, six, nine, twelve different jams here and I can't tell
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you how tickled my brain is.
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I'm so thrilled to try some of these.
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There's so many cool flavors.
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It's just great.
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It's just great whenever somebody who's tinkering around makes some shit and then sends it to
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you.
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It's fantastic.
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You almost feel like there's a mad scientisty kind of vibe with a little berry.
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Absolutely.
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Just cutting it open, seeing what makes a rhubarb tick.
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It feels like somebody somewhere has a cauldron and there's trouble a-brewin'.
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Yeah.
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So we also learned that Mary and Berry is a berry.
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That's exciting.
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That was exciting.
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So yeah, thank you Carl.
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I'm really excited to try these and I'm sure a lot of them are going to be great and the
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ones that aren't are great and I just don't like them.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm a weird food guy.
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That's one of the great things about stuff like that where it's like, you know what,
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I'm sure this tastes great.
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It has nothing to do with you.
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This is all, I just don't like this texture.
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That's it.
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You guys are great.
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I'm not, well, we'll just not meet.
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That's fine.
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I assume that about a lot of foods.
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Yeah.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is today, as you're listening to this, if you are past 10 Pacific time,
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you are available to buy tickets to our live show.
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I realized that on our last episode we mentioned that there was a second show and we didn't
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say anything about when tickets were available, if they were available, where to get them.
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Yep.
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We're dumb.
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We're bad.
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We're not good at this.
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Yeah.
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So they're available now.
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They're available now.
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As of 10 Pacific time.
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Yes.
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AM.
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And yeah, you can get them from the Aladdin Theater website.
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There'll be a link in the description of this episode and folks can, yeah.
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Same everything.
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Nothing's changed.
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Everybody get a ticket.
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Same everything except the dates.
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Exactly.
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Thursday, the 18th.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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That'll be fun.
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And I'm glad that we decided to loop back and tell people how to take part in this.
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Wise.
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Wise.
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You know, we like a good ambush show as much as the next guy, but maybe we should sell
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some tickets first.
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It's more that we were confusing people, I think.
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Probably.
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Well, today, Jordan Ravin episode to go over.
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All right.
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We're going to be talking a little bit about September 11th.
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Okay.
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The day that we live in infamy, 2025.
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And Alex is, of course, a piece of shit.
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Naturally.
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And Charlie Kirk has just been murdered.
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Right.
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So we'll check in on how all these dynamics are playing out, but first let's take a little
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moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Jack would like to shout out to Solitary Knight, an awesome LGBTQ positive
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Twitch and Facebook streamer who plays odd and uncommon and goofy video games.
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Thank you so much for now, Policy Wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You ever make a goofy video game?
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Like the character goofy?
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Absolutely.
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That'd be a goofy one to try.
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Um, come on.
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You were holding back a laugh.
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I was holding back.
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I was holding back.
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Next, Michael, you make my life dreamy-creamy.
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I love you so much and hope we can rise above our enemies for years to come.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And hey, Dan, I can't get in touch with Alex.
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Could you check on Gene Hackman tonight?
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It's urgent.
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Thanks, God.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to my amazing wife, Fen.
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Happy second anniversary.
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Here's to many more years and adventures together with our little ham roaming the world and listening
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to Knowledge Fight.
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Love you always, Manie.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomized, sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Today's episode might be on the shorter side of things.
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Alex took off on the 11th.
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He left.
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He had business.
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No, I...
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We'll get to that.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But last we left off, Charlie Kirk had been shot and killed at a speaking event he was
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holding at the campus of Utah Valley University.
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Alex had exploitatively aired the video of the shooting on a loop and had vowed to do
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his own college tour in Charlie's honor mere hours after it had come out that he had died.
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Beautiful.
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No one had any information about the shooter at that point, but it was reported confidently
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that this was a leftist assassin from Antifa and that the shooting was part of the Podesta
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Revolutionary Plan that was crafted in 2020 but was put on the shelf for four years because
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Trump lost that election so there was no need for revolution.
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Right.
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It was a disgusting display, but nothing too surprising to see from Alex's show.
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When we recorded our last episode, we didn't know anything about who the shooter could
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be either, and I tried to be pretty clear about how it was unwise to jump to any conclusions.
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The person could easily have been someone motivated by left-leaning political ideology
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who hated Charlie, but Charlie had a lot of enemies on the far right as well.
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Someone from that world could have killed him, or the killer could have even been apolitical
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in their motivation.
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I pushed back on Alex's assertions that it was a leftist shooter not because I know that
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to be incorrect, but because I know that Alex is making that accusation baselessly, and
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it's the kind of response that he embodies does nobody any good and can only cause trouble.
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Now that we're here and a little more information is known about the shooting, details are still
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a bit sketchy.
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A 22-year-old man named Tyler Robinson has been arrested for the shooting, having allegedly
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confessed to his dad, who then was involved in helping turn him into authorities.
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It appears that Robinson's father was torn about what he should do once he figured out
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that his son was the one who had committed the murder, so he consulted with his church
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leader.
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Should he turn in his son to face a possible death sentence or stay silent about his son's
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guilt in order to save his life?
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It was a moral dilemma that the dad faced, and it turns out that the church does not
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have a no-snitching policy.
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I was gonna say, I feel like just by doing that you have already decided which one you're
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gonna do.
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Yeah, I think you're, well, you know it's interesting because I do think if you were
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thrust into that situation it might be good to seek counsel of some kind.
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I agree.
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But I think if you're going to talk to somebody like a priest, you're hoping that they'll
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take the responsibility off your shoulders.
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That would kind of be the idea.
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I feel like you're begging someone else to, look, I don't want to turn in my son, can
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you please do it?
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Yeah, especially if you're, I mean it's not like a confessional, it's not like you're
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like, hey, we both agree, nothing leaves this room kind of situation.
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And I think even then, you know.
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Confessionals are still like, we report murders.
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You can't, we don't absolve murders totally.
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Unless the church has a no-snitching policy.
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Which I mean, there are probably churches, but we don't know about them for obvious reasons.
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No one talks.
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No one's snitching, exactly.
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So law enforcement has identified Robinson and also released information about messages
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that he'd allegedly written on the bullet casings.
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In the case of the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO, Luigi Mangione, there were
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messages inscribed on the bullets saying delay, deny, and depose.
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The meaning of these words were clear, as they describe the strategy that insurance
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companies use to avoid having to pay for people's medical care.
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Without endorsing anything that he did, these words being put on the bullets represents
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a coherent political message that could explain the killing.
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In this case, the messages that were on the bullets were essentially shitposts, and they
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don't really point to any definite ideology.
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One said quote, hey fascist, catch.
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Then arrows indicating up right down down down.
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This is a, you know there's an instinct to say that this is an indication of like some
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anti-fascist tendencies on the part of the shooter, but this is just a reference to the
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video game Helldivers 2.
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The messages that were inscribed on the bullets don't point to a coherent motive, but point
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to a familiarity with being too online.
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These were jokes that have an irony to them, and anybody taking them literally or at face
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value is not on the right track with this.
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You can't look at this without sort of decoding it through online culture.
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Any time I have read anything about this, my first instinct was like, none of the people
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writing about this should be allowed to write about this.
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There is a culture that understands what is going on, and we are not part of that culture.
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And the people trying to translate it to me are not part of that culture either, and they're
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not doing a good job.
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Yeah, and far be it from me to say that I'm drenched in this culture, I don't fully understand
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a whole lot of the way too online irony that people engage in.
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Nope, not even a little bit.
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But I see another language when it's being spoken.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No, I mean, any time back in the past, and I'm talking about the past before the QAnon,
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any time something from 4chan leaked out, it was like, guys, don't get near it.
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You'll never understand.
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This is not for you.
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Just let it be in its space.
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And now there's just a million different versions of that.
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Exactly.
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Yep.
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So while it doesn't indicate whether he was on the left or the right politically, this
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sends a clear message that the shooter is not a sincere communicator, and that he was
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likely a person who came of age surrounded by shitty internet irony.
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As it stands, I still don't know enough to have strong feelings about the motive of the
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crime.
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I think a lot of people want to jump to conclusions that he's a leftist or that he's a Nick Fuentes
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fan.
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And while all of these things are possible, I don't see anything concrete about it as
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of the time that we're recording.
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I mean, to a certain extent, it's almost a...
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I suppose I would say it's something new.
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It's a shot from somewhere that we're not familiar with.
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This isn't the left or the right.
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This is a whole culture.
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The only thing I would push back on that is that it's fully new.
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I think we've seen a fair amount of it in the last years.
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Oh, no, no, no, for sure.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I just mean in terms of our paradigm of how to classify this, this doesn't fit into what
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we would use 20 years ago.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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This is of the now.
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There's a shifting of the understanding of motivations that we need to take into account.
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Political ideology is far more fractured.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, he left his show on Wednesday and then came back and yelled a little bit over
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Harrison.
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What a great guy.
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And then did his special report.
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And now here on the 11th, Alex starts off the show and, you know, just pointing some
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fingers.
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This is sick.
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This is a real cult that believes it owns our children.
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It's all financed by the globalists.
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And we have hours of celebration on the Internet under different hashtags we'll be giving you.
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Hundreds and hundreds of people, mainly school teachers and lawyers and doctors saying, good,
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now kill Trump.
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Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill.
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Everybody else.
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I got this shit.
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Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi.
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He was a fucking Nazi.
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And you know what kind of Nazi is the best Nazi?
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A dead one.
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So Alex is pitching a story here that involves people debating Charlie Kirk being in on the
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murder, which seems wildly unlikely.
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I'm not sure exactly what the selection process is for the guest debaters at these events,
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but if more than one of the people who got through in the time they had before the shooting
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were conspirators, that indicates really bad event management.
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Yeah.
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Also, it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to have conspirators be involved in debating
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Kirk while the murderer gets his shot ready.
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Kirk was going to be sitting in the same spot arguing, regardless of who picked up the mic
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to debate him.
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If what Alex is saying is correct and the people were constantly looking toward the
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roof where the shooter was, that would only hurt the conspiracy's chance of being successful.
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Yeah.
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It feels like anyone who were actually planning something like this wouldn't plant people
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to debate Kirk because there's no upside and a bunch of risks.
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Yeah.
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I'm thrilled that Alex is upset about people posting distasteful stuff on social media,
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but it's just hard to take his angle on this seriously.
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I thought free speech was back, and as far as the Constitution is concerned, there's
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nothing illegal about saying that you're glad someone's dead and that you hope someone
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else gets killed.
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It might be unhealthy for public discourse to be at a point where that kind of thing
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is as normal as it is, but that's not the conversation Alex is having.
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If it were, then we might find some agreement that, like, it sucks that this is the way
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people act now.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, that's not his point.
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I mean, whatever happened to fuck your feelings?
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You know, I'm tired.
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I'm tired.
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I'm tired because I lived through the time where they got to yell about it from one side,
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and now I'm living through the time where they're trying to yell about it from the other
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side, and I didn't move.
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Nope.
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I didn't go anywhere.
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I'm just staring.
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Yeah.
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I'm sitting here.
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And incidentally, Pete Hegseth, Trump's Secretary of Defense, or maybe War now, I'm not sure,
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has said that people will be fired if they have been found to have tweeted negative things
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about Kirk in the wake of his death, and that's not just something that's happening at the
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Pentagon.
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NPR reported on 33 cases of people who were fired because they posted something that was
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seen as celebrating Kirk's death on social media.
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I don't see firing people for making these kinds of posts as some kind of horrible violation
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of free speech rights, but Alex definitely should.
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He's always championed people who faced social consequences for doing something racist, and
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he's always been able to pretend that he's only doing that out of concern for the precedent
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that it would set about chilling free speech.
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I only know who Count Dankula is because Alex had him on a bunch because he lost his job
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after posting a video of him teaching his dog to do a Nazi salute.
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If Alex took any of the shit he said seriously, he would need to be defending these people
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who were getting fired for tweeting jokes about Kirk, and the fact that he's not should
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make it pretty clear that in the past, he wasn't interested in defending free speech.
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He just wanted to help create a world where racists don't have to fear any consequences
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for their racism.
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This is cancel culture, right?
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Yeah.
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Oh, maybe not.
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Well, see, the thing is, what we wanted to do...
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Now, you thought, oh, we're worried about being canceling.
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No, what we wanted to do was get all the way on the other side where we get to do the canceling.
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That was the problem.
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Right.
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That was where it all went wrong.
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I would say something like, the F slur, and then I would get in trouble, but now I can
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hit people.
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It's great.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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It's just, I mean, obviously these are some things that were fairly obvious in Alex in
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the past, but if people can't see through it now, that's on you.
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You can't see what he's doing.
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Yeah.
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It reminds me of something Douglas Adams said about the serious cybernetics corporation
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or something where it's like, the superficial design flaws are so frustrating, they mask
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the fundamental design flaws, which was like, that feels like what was going...
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We were so focused on the superficial shit, we haven't been able to really process how
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fundamentally bullshit this has always been.
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Yeah.
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And I think that we've had some indications and some like, I'm pretty sure this is all
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total bullshit.
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But now all of the principles are violated.
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It's gotta be.
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Everything is bullshit.
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If you can't see it now, it's on you.
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Yeah.
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So Alex obviously wants to make this about himself.
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Yeah.
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Of course.
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Because that's what he does.
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All right.
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I have predicted every bit of this with total precision because John Podesta wrote a battle
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plan for it.
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If Trump won in 2020, they were able to steal it.
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They announced they were implementing it on November 5th, last year.
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The no kings, the assassinations, the killings, the attacks on Catholic churches and churches.
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I'm getting chills right now.
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And of course, I got swatted last night.
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But really it just adds security to the house.
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I'm friends with the deputies.
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They sometimes come over and have a coffee.
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They're at the house once a week, pretty much.
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I got home about eight o'clock, saw one parked across the road, pulled in, pull up.
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They scanned the lights.
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Everything all right, Alex?
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Yeah, everybody's inside.
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Everything's good.
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Yeah.
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Do you get another fake call?
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Yeah.
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Have a good night.
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We'll be around.
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That's not a squatting.
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And Alex seems very desperate to make himself the victim in someone else's murder.
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It would be so funny if someone just directly demanded Alex produce the Podesta plan.
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He talks about it like it's a very real and specific thing.
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So it should be no problem for him to send a copy to the news or anything.
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The Podesta battle plan is a great prop for Alex, primarily because it's not real.
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The Transition Integrity Project put out a 22-page paper on August 3rd, 2020, titled
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Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election and Transition.
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And Alex has just made up a bunch of fun bullshit about it.
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That's nice.
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John Podesta was a participant in the scenario exercises that they ran, but he wasn't in
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charge of the group.
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Alex is just labeled at the Podesta plan because the audience already knows Podesta from Pizzagate.
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So it's easier just to say it's all him.
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If Alex said this was the Rosa Brooks plan or the Nils Gilman plan, it wouldn't evoke
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all the scary associations of child trafficking at Comet Ping Pong.
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Snooze!
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Right.
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Who are those people?
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Don't care.
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Yeah, Podesta's a villain that's already been built.
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He's established.
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Yeah.
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So I just, I don't know.
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He was...
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He was a dud.
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I do appreciate the echoes of how stupid things can be, that being from another bullshit conspiracy
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that didn't make any sense from the past just makes you...
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Like in a voting reality show game where if you get voted out on the first day, everybody's
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like, well, we're voting you out again.
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You're just socially, it's okay for us to pick on you.
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Yeah.
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We've already got some baggage.
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Exactly.
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It's like how Soros can be slotted into literally every conspiracy because the audience has
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a da-da feeling about discovering that he's behind something.
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And yeah, it's a cheap trick.
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Soap opera shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the thing that's so great about this prop that Alex has is that he can make it
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say anything.
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Yeah.
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The Podesta plan involves shooting Charlie Kirk.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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The transition integrity project lays this out.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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At what point while they're writing that are they going, maybe we shouldn't put this
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in paper.
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The plan to assassinate a guy, maybe we should just...
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We could keep the oral history.
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Let's just talk about this one.
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Yeah.
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Let's not press release this one.
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Maybe don't do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I really don't think that Alex got swatted, but regardless, making it about himself isn't
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quite enough.
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So he's got to talk about how good of a shooter he is.
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Oh God.
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He's got to really hand it to...
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Don't do that.
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Q, and I'm not talking about Q the online thing.
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I'm talking about a highly decorated army veteran friend of mine who's head of my security.
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He called me out of country running a mission about 30 minutes before Trump officially announced
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that Kirk was dead.
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They wanted to talk to his family first.
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He said, no, he was shot from the roof with a high powered rifle and Quentin is so smart.
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And I'll see if I can get him on.
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He said he'd come on yesterday when I called back, he didn't answer because he was in operations.
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But he said he'd been going into a zone, he couldn't use his phone.
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I'm not going to say where he's at.
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But he said, it's a 30 odd six.
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I can tell by the sound of the gun.
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That's how good his ears are for what different rifles sound like.
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He said bolt action, 30 odd six.
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It would be his guess.
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And that's what it is.
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And yeah, you want an accurate gun.
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That's a good one right there.
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People saying that this would have to be a professional to shoot somebody at 200 yards
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in the neck.
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You could train a 10 year old with a 308 to shoot bullseye at 100 yards in an hour.
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By the time I was 14, I could shoot at 100 yards for the same hole over and over again
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with a three power scope.
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Now with the new stuff, I mean, I've shot mountain goats, 800 yards dead center in the
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throat when they pop their head up.
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And I'm not as good as some of these military shooters, though I go out and shoot with them.
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I'm about average for special operations type people in the grade of my shooting.
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But the point is, my daughters are basically as good a shot as I am.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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You're good.
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You're good at shooting.
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Cool.
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Cool and cool person.
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Super cool.
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I think this point is fully illustrated by saying it's not that impressive of a shot.
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You don't have to talk about how you're about as good as all the best marksmen in special
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operations and also you've trained your daughter as well as them.
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The only reason Q talks to me is because we're both so good at shooting.
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I know he's active duty and he's in the no phone zone.
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No phone zone.
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Right.
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But I'm just an amateur, the greatest there ever was.
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So no big deal.
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Some people like legit are just born with it.
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Yeah.
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And what are you going to do?
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And to be clear, I'm a better shooter than this assassin.
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And also I'm better than my daughter.
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And also I'm more important than Charlie Kirk.
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Jesus Christ.
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What a piece of shit.
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Total piece of shit.
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Shocking, outrageous piece of shit.
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I was like, what's an exaggerated thing I could say to it?
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And it was like, no, he probably thinks that too.
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I bet, I bet he 100% would say right now, well, Charlie Kirk didn't mean anything.
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How can I discuss this guy and not be super disrespectful, but also be super disrespectful.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Absolutely.
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Well, I'm a great shot.
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I could have done that.
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I could have killed three of him.
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You could have lined him up behind another one of him and I still could have shot that
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guy.
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That's how good I am.
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It's fucked up.
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Crazy.
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Has all the earmarks of a staged event.
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A false flag.
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Not really.
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No, just an elaborate conspiracy.
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Oh, okay.
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There are so many angles here.
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There are all these witnesses on local news and you can see it in the videos happening
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that people were chanting in the crowd, kill Charlie Kirk.
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I feel like they weren't.
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Kill Charlie Kirk.
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And you can hear it in the audio.
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There's lots of talking and yelling and you're like, yeah, I'll try to kill him.
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And then this questioner gets up and says they're going to bring up one topic.
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They come up and say, this is what I want to talk about.
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They bring them up and they go, I want to talk about trans shooters.
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And then the witnesses report, the people step back and then a lot of the crowds start
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turning around and looking going, look, look and boom, right there.
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Like it was a Shakespearean stage.
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This happens in the witnesses are like, this was staged because I mean, the word was out
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on the local liberal trans news.
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Like he's dead tomorrow.
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Well, who's news?
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Who's news?
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It's over.
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He's going to dissolve tomorrow.
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I have all the tweets, the posts, all of it right here.
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And they're like, yeah, yeah, great.
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They're turning back.
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Great job.
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I don't know what kind of trans news networks Alex is talking about, but if he was able
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to find all this chatter that illustrates pre-planning of the shooting, then two things
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have to be true.
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One, we should be seeing tons and tons of arrests of people involved in the conspiracy
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by this point.
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Right.
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And two, Charlie Kirk security team should have flagged this in advance.
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Yep.
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It's kind of, it almost becomes too obvious.
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And Alex as the big stand down conspiracy guy, maybe should be suspicious.
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Seems like if what you're saying is true, then a bunch of people were openly planning
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an assassination.
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And yet, I mean, historically speaking, when a bunch of people openly plan an assassination,
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we have a lot of evidence from, you know, their planning.
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Yeah.
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Like say January 6th, you think of a time whenever you would look into it and you might
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see text messages from person to person saying, let's go overthrow the government.
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Planning meetings, leadership hierarchy.
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Exactly.
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All that stuff.
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Yeah.
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So also in order for any of this stuff to be true, then the person who is debating Kirk
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when he was shot has to be in on it.
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Based on what Alex is saying, that is totally the case.
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Because if not, if that's not what he's implying, there's no reason to say any of this stuff.
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It's just necessary.
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This person is a guy named Hunter Kozak, who's since publicly discussed his experience.
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I know that Alex could just casually accuse random people of being involved in murder
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plots and there aren't any consequences, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to stop pointing
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out how horrible and dangerous this behavior is.
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Yeah.
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And sure, if people were chanting, kill Charlie Kirk at his event, that's not good, but it's
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also ridiculous to think that that would be connected to any actual murder planning.
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Yeah.
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I don't mean to sound callous or anything, but in pro wrestling, there's a famous story
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that The Rock, he ended up turning heel because he was trying to play a good guy and the crowd
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hated him.
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They would chant die Rocky, die when he came out and the bosses realized that the audience
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wasn't connecting with The Rock as a hero, but they might respond to him as a villain.
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Pro wrestling isn't about good conquering evil or evil conquering good even.
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It's about slotting people into good and evil characters to maximize the audience engagement
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and investment in them to tell quality stories and sell merch.
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The media ecosystem that Charlie Kirk thrived in operates pretty similarly.
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He's a good guy to the folks on his side, but he really only occupies that space because
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he's a villain to the other side.
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His fans hate the left and he basks in the negative attention that he gets from the left
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in order to play up the image that he's a villain to them, which makes him a hero to
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his side.
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Right.
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What I'm saying is that if I were Charlie, I would love hearing kill Charlie Kirk chanted
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at one of my rallies.
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The fact that these people who his audience hates would hate Charlie so much validates
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the idea that he's an important hero for them and without those optics, this whole brand
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falls apart pretty quick.
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I mean, how much can you do a prove me wrong debate if the people who you want to yell
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at you don't show up?
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It requires this antagonism in order for it to exist.
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Yeah, you have to be a character that people love to hate on top of being a character that
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the hateful people love.
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That's part of the combination.
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And the people who are coming and chanting, kill Charlie Kirk are...
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I'm not saying that they like Charlie, but there is an element of it that they're like,
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they want to engage as the voice that's chanting them.
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It's not a love to hate, but it kind of is.
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Well, I mean, and there's just a certain part of it.
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When you say love to hate, it's not a pleasure to hate so much as it is like a...
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Well, it's not a coincidence that Tucker Carlson's voice is also so fucking annoying that it
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gets inside your head.
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Of course they like him more because you hate him more.
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The combination of the two.
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Yeah, their political ideology is largely based on triggering the libs and making everyone
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mad and he's really good at making people mad.
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Someone chanting horrible shit is proof of concept.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I don't know.
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I think that there's something that is so wrong about the way that that's just what
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their world is.
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And it's impossible to exist as a stable thing.
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You can yell horrible shit at a wrestling show because it's kayfabe.
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It's a fake world.
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No one's actually gonna attack this person.
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But that kind of behavior, once it's in the real world, there's no kayfabe there.
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Shit happens.
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Shit happens.
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Yeah.
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And that's not good.
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There are consequences in the real world.
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That's why we invented the fake world.
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So we could keep that shit there and still have fun.
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That's the whole idea.
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Don't bring it into the real world.
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You idiots.
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No.
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I mean, it's effective.
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That's why wrestling is popular.
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It's cathartic and people really enjoy it.
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That's the idea.
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Yeah, but it only really works when there's not human stakes attached to it.
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Bunch of dicks.
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So I told you that Alex was gonna leave.
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And that's because he has secret missions to go on.
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Law stuff.
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I wasn't gonna be here today because I have multiple missions that are critical to the
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Republic.
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So I'm leaving a little bit later.
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I'll leave it at that.
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But I will be doing work from the road and I will be in multiple locations on the east
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and west coast in the next three days.
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I'll just leave it at that.
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But things are coming to a head and it's been recognized by folks in the administration
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that we have the best analysis of what's going on and what's gonna happen next and how to
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counter them.
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So I will be consulting with different organizations and groups in the next three days.
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So I will not be fishing when you don't see me here.
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So Alex went to DC and he met with Ed Martin.
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Martin was Trump's initial nominee for US Attorney for DC but the Senate made it clear
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that they weren't going to approve this appointment.
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So Trump withdrew Martin and appointed Fox News host Jeanine Pirro.
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So this guy was crazier.
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Okay.
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Than Jeanine Pirro.
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Alright, so that's where our benchmark is.
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It's gotta sting a little bit.
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That has got to sting.
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Because you have to know that there's no standards and you don't meet them.
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And you're still zero.
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So Martin landed on his feet and he took a role as the pardon attorney for the Department
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of Justice, spearheading what Alex likes to call the weaponization task force.
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That's supposedly investigating DOJ weaponization against people who were too loyal to Trump.
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Right.
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I like the opposite of a retribution squad.
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I'm president of the pardon squad.
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We're just gonna let everybody go.
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Well, no.
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Nope.
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No, no, no.
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Because the pardon squad is about investigating Biden's pardons.
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Right, exactly.
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So it's about removing pardons.
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It's once again a retribution squad.
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Yes, quite.
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So what's going on here is essentially that Alex is desperately trying to beg for the
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Supreme Court to overturn his reasons.
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And so he's going to lobby, basically, to Ed Martin and whoever will listen to him in
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DC.
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Great.
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I have no idea why he's going to the West Coast, though.
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My gut was gonna be like he's gonna go be on a podcast, but it feels like all the big
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podcasts he would be on are hosted by people who followed Rogan to Austin.
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So it wouldn't need to go to the West Coast.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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I have no idea, but we'll see.
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We'll see what happens.
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Maybe he's looking at investors.
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Maybe he's trying to find somebody to buy it.
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Who?
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Hey, listen, I'm not going to the West Coast.
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I don't know anybody on the West Coast who might buy it.
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He's the one going, so maybe he knows.
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There are rich people.
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Yeah, but I think that anybody who's gonna be in the conversation to put up that kind
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of money to buy this would recognize how dull an investment it is.
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Anybody else could just start their own supplement labeling company.
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All right.
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I've got a new plan.
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Okay, now this is news that you don't keep up with, but my friend Kawhi Leonard, all
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right, he was signed to the Clippers and they just found out that he got a no show endorsement
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deal from just some random company for $25 million outside of the pay package that he
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had from the Clippers.
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But this company, does it exist?
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Probably not.
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So it was used as a way to give him a bonus because the NBA has a hard salary cap.
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So this is all part of it.
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So Alex is the bag man?
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Alex is going to exchange the money from a fake company set up by Steve Ballmer, owner
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of the Clippers, and this is how it's going to work.
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That's how we pay Kawhi Leonard and own Info Wars and keep the Clippers as a medium level
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of organization.
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Charlie Kirk was onto this and that's why he had to die.
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It all makes sense!
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It almost makes too much sense.
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So I will track this as time goes on, but I do think that it's worth noting that Chase
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comes in to fill in for Alex on the main show.
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Wow.
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Chase doesn't even work there anymore and he's still higher in the batting order than
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Harrison.
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Isn't he in Arkansas?
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He came back.
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He came back?
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After Owen left, he came back?
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Well I don't think he came back on a permanent basis, but I think he stepped in because Charlie
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Kirk died and Alex needed some backup.
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Jesus Christ.
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That's... that...
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Chase, Chase, Chase, Chase.
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Look, I...
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Hey Brendan, I gotta go talk to the Supreme Court.
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Every time I get out, they pull me back in!
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Brendan, Brendan.
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I have to go...
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You wanna see a dead body?
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I have to go lobby the highest court in the land to try and get away with slavery people's
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dead relatives.
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Oh my God.
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Amazing.
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So, he's back in the saddle a little bit, but I don't think it's a permanent thing.
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Unless Alex incarcerates him somehow.
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I mean, just the more this happens, the more I feel like we're inching closer and closer
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to the weirdest possible future where Chase owns all of InfoWars because he's accidentally
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signed so many papers that they just default go back to him and then he's like, well, if
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I own it, I might as well do it and he just becomes the new InfoWars by himself.
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I mean, you know, what you're discussing might not be a total accident.
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This could be craft.
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Do you think Chase is Kaiser Sose-ing all of us?
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It's possible.
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Are we getting Chase or Sose-ed?
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It's possible.
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He's positioned himself in a really unique, weird place.
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It is a really unique place.
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Where his name is on the documents for the Alex Jones network, their only sponsor is
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Bigly and now he works for them.
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I don't know.
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He's put himself in a place where Alex can't squeeze him out.
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Is this like a hostile takeover?
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This is a Michael J. Fox in the 80s movie where somehow at the end he's the top of the
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corporation.
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This is what we're dealing with, right?
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I think so.
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And if so, ooh.
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I mean, I suppose it could be worse.
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Yeah.
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So the left is going to rise and they're going to take out cops.
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They're going to take out everybody.
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I strongly doubt that.
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Well, Alex is saying it's going to happen and Podesta warned us.
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And so they're going to hit police?
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When they hit, they're going to hit the police?
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They're going to hit everybody.
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I mean, I can tell you, I'm not in my house.
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This is the point.
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Out.
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Gone.
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Gone.
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For the seeable future.
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Bye bye.
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This is when I finally, I've never left.
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This morning I'm like, we're out.
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We're out.
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So.
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This is it.
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They're going to do it.
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And now, you know, I Trump's trying to get you ready for the military and the rest of
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it, uh, because Podesta said, we put the compilation of articles up.
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What?
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They're going to have the blue states, the seed in cities.
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They're going to call it all racial.
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They're going to trigger a civil war.
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That was four and a half, almost five years ago.
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It was actually five years ago, August of 2020.
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And they said, we're going to do the plan again.
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And I keep repeating that because there's the plan.
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There's the plan.
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I've literally had the white house and I'll go, really, where's the Democrat plan for
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that?
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I'm like, you don't know.
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Some do the Pentagon knows.
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I know the FBI knows, but even at the white house, they're not taking it seriously enough.
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Yeah, they shouldn't.
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So this would be a totally fine angle for any other right wing radio host to have both
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the career that Alex has had.
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He can't do shit like this.
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He's saying that the left is super scary and planning all these crimes and unrest, which
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Trump is going to have to put down with the military because Trump knows that this is
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right around the corner.
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He's starting to use the military for domestic policing.
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So citizens get used to the idea of military police.
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That's fun and all, but this is exactly what Alex has always said.
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I can't count the number of times he's used the analogy of a frog in a pot of water and
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how if the heat goes up gradually, you don't notice.
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Humans have a normalcy bias.
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These are the things that he talks about all the time.
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Alex is describing Trump using psychological tricks, that he's been very clear tyrannical
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strategy to ease the population into slavery, and he's in favor of it.
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Other talk show hosts could probably get away with pretending to be ignorant of these dynamics,
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but this is a cornerstone of Alex's worldview, so you really have to be delusional to not
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get that he understands what he's doing.
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The difference is just that Alex supports this police state in the same way that he
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would support the police state in the 50s and 60s that tried to put down the civil rights
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movement.
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When there's a world order that's trending towards liberalism, the state is the greatest
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evil imaginable.
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But when the powers that be start prioritizing inequality, that calculation changes.
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It can change, because he was never against tyranny or state oppression to begin with,
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he just wanted it not to threaten him and groups he feels like he's a part of.
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Through his formative years, Alex's dad was a John Birch society idiot, so he was raised
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with a lot of those influences.
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And then when he was becoming an adult, the militia movement of the 90s was in full swing.
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Ruby Ridge and Waco happened, which solidified an impression that the state was targeting
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white Christian separatists, which was topped off by the OKC bombing, a clear false flag
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meant to convince everyone that white Christian separatists were a legitimate threat.
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And Alex has lived in that mode for his whole life.
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Everything is in conversation with this feeling.
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Bush did 9-11 in order to start a war and demonize foreign terrorists, but the end goal
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was really using the expanded powers they gained in order to fight those terrorists
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against white Christian separatists.
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All of the false flag mass shootings that have been done to erode the second amendment,
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all of that is just an attack on white Christian separatists because they love their guns and
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might need them to overthrow the country at some point.
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Everything that seemed important to Alex on a conceptual level really hasn't been important
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at all, and it's plain to see all that stuff slipping away now.
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Conspiracy and false flag accusations are a tool, and Alex's recent actions help illustrate
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how this is really all it's ever been.
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The power structure is now clearly on the side of white Christian separatists, so instead
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of using conspiracies and accusations of false flags to attack the power structure, Alex
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is using them to bolster the power structure.
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Alex is saying that Trump is using federal troops as police in order to acclimate the
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population to the site of military on the streets, and the justification is that he
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needs to do that because the left is planning all these horrible attacks that need to be
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stopped.
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So from that, we can say that it's possible for an incoming threat to necessitate a president
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to use the military as domestic police, an act that violates a fundamental part of the
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constitution for Alex.
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There is an example case where that is appropriate.
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If that's true, then it's pretty simple to say that Bush should have been able to use
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military as police if he felt that terrorists posed a big enough imminent threat.
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Obama should have been able to use the military as police if he thought that domestic extremists
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posed a big enough threat.
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If it's possible that a potential future threat justifies despotism, then the only variable
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that matters is what the president considers a future threat.
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And that can be an acceptable argument for someone to have.
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I would expect that a lot of the right wing during Bush's presidency would argue that
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sometimes protecting against extreme threats requires curtailing rights.
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I recall them saying it explicitly.
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Yeah.
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I'm not saying that you can't make that argument.
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But Alex can't.
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Alex can't.
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It is counter to the DNA of what he's built over the last 30 years.
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And to see him saying that kind of shit is just like, that's like me starting a supplement
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business.
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It's fucking out of line.
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I mean, if you believe anything that you've ever said, then the moment you say like, oh,
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Trump did this because of a threat he sees coming, then you have to then make the next
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step, which is, oh, well, Trump is the creator of this threat.
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He's creating the threat in order to do that's your whole life.
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That's literally how it's been since fucking Napoleon, right?
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Everything, everything in the world has always been this.
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I mean, you should even say like, you, your big thing is Qui Bono.
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He's bringing a hoop benefit.
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So of course he's the one creating the threat.
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It's not the left.
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It is Trump.
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That's your definition of how things work.
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Yeah.
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Problem, reaction, solution.
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That whole ideology is completely out the window when it is convenient.
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Yep.
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It's fucking garbage.
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It is so frustrating.
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It is frustrating.
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Yeah.
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I, you know, you just hear stuff like this and it's just, I feel for people who could
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possibly still listen to Alex and think he cares about anything.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because the, the general idea behind belief systems is it's very helpful to kind of predict
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later on what somebody is going to do in given search situations.
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You know, for the most part, belief systems are just social clubs.
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They're just a place to get around and to be with people and you say similar stuff to
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each other.
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So you create that bond, right?
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But then you choose that belief system because when you need to do something about it, that's
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when you go, oh, I rely on the Bible.
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I would do this blank thing, but I'm going to do what the Bible says.
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That's my belief system.
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Sure.
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Right?
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Whenever you realize that you were just, they were just there, the Bible had nothing to
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do with it.
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You know, it was nothing.
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Then it's like, oh, well then what, what am I supposed to believe ever?
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Yeah.
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You know?
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When you make a belief system that's based around some kind of virtue and shit, it's
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like, okay, I'm great cause I'm not killing someone right now.
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Right now?
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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But like if I then am in a position where I can kill somebody and maybe it's advantageous
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for me to do so and I do it, then I never really believed that killing was wrong.
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No you didn't.
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I just wasn't in the position to kill.
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I didn't have to.
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I didn't have the opportunity.
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Right.
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Yep.
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It's just for, for so many people it has nothing to do with opportunity, but for some people
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it is just like the only reason I'm not committing crimes right now is because they are not directly
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in front of me to commit.
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That's it.
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I can't steal.
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There's no store here.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I would, but there isn't.
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But stealing is so wrong and I would never do it.
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So wrong.
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So look, the real issue though is the Dems.
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They're so disrespectful.
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Obviously.
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Obviously.
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So disrespectful.
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Obviously.
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So on the day of the shooting, Elizabeth Warren posted that she was praying for Charlie and
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said, quote, political violence has no place in our country.
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It's never okay.
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However, right-wing dipshits like the hosts on Fox news immediately started running with
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the narrative that democratic rhetoric was to blame for the shooting because all the
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Dems are so violent with their speech.
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Sure.
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Because Fox was covering the news from this angle, it led a reporter to ask Warren about
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this position.
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And she said, quote, oh, please, why don't you start with the president of the United
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States?
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Right.
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Right.
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Fox news has spin on the story, created an opportunity to trap Warren in a situation
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where no matter what she says, it plays into Fox's narrative.
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If she responds like this, they can say that she refuses to take responsibility for the
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violent rhetoric of the left.
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If she's conciliatory and says that both sides are heated, they can say that she admitted
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that the left is too violent.
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This is a game.
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And even when someone like Elizabeth Warren goes out of her way to be polite and respectful,
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it doesn't matter.
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No.
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People are shitheads who are just going to lie about you.
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Yep.
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As for the prayer in Congress thing, Alex is lying about that.
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The house observed a moment of silence in Charlie's honor that was respected by even
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the evil Democrats.
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After the moment of silence ended, Republican Representative Lauren Boebert protested that,
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quote, silent prayers get silent results and demanded that the house let a verbal prayer
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be said.
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Saying an impromptu verbal prayer isn't allowed by house rules.
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So she was essentially asking for special privileges.
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And you know, that's what caused the problem.
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She was demanding things that they can't allow her to do.
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I mean, listen, sometimes you just need a divorce, you know, sometimes you just need
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a divorce.
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So someone yelled, quote, what about the kids in Colorado?
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In reference to the Evergreen High School shooting that also had happened that day.
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Jesus Christ.
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Naturally, this was a bit humiliating for Boebert since he represents Colorado in the
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house.
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So fellow Republican and former Turning Point USA employee Anna Paulina Luna came to her
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defense saying, quote, you all caused this.
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Order broke down a little bit and Speaker Mike Johnson struggled to get the house back
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on track despite doing a lot of shushing and gavel work.
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But finally, they did come back into the center.
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This is like the Fox News coverage with Elizabeth Warren, a trap.
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Lauren Boebert is a U.S. representative, so she should know the rules and be aware that
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she can't just say a verbal prayer on the House floor whenever she wants.
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But by making that demand and having the other members of the House grumble and shoot her
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down, the story is no longer that Boebert made an inappropriate request.
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It's that the Democrats yelled over Charlie Kirk's moment of silence.
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That isn't true.
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And no matter how anyone reacted in this situation, the babies get their way.
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Yep.
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And it's important to understand how much of their strategy is based on that.
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Yeah.
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That like they are trap builders.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's important to remember that the guy who got his ass beat by a cane in Congress was
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really not a fan of slavery.
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And the guy who beat his ass, huge fan of slavery.
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I was watching the video of this whole thing go down.
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And you know, like I had heard about it from like Alex and seen maybe a tweet or two or
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something.
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And the sense that I got was that this all happened during the moment of silence.
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And I was shocked to go watch it and see the moment of silence end.
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And then all of this happened.
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But even leaving that aside, I was just like, man, Mike Johnson is not commanding respect.
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And I was like, what happens if they just don't shut up?
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Yeah.
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Like what happens?
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Nobody's going to stop him.
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Can't bring the house into order.
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I mean, eventually I guess they're going to call in the National fucking Guard.
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I guess.
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They're right there.
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It was crazy because it felt like, well, I don't know what you're going to do other than
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tackle somebody.
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Like this doesn't seem like anybody is really, it doesn't feel like lead.
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No.
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You know what I mean?
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I don't know.
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Fucking Palpatine dissolved the Senate.
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Who fucking knows what's going on now?
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Lord knows what could happen, right?
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Shit's crazy.
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Do you think Lauren Boebert is Jar Jar?
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Is she the one who's going to usher in a never ending dark side empire?
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Probably.
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So yeah, I think that means she's Jar Jar.
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Okay.
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So Alex is obviously distraught about losing a friend.
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And that's why he is continuing to talk about how he's going to just steal his skin.
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Great.
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He's announced this through Bravada or act tough.
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I've publicly said I don't do a ton of public speaking engagements because I know I can
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do more digitally and I'm and his work was important.
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Had to be done at the colleges.
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And I admired him for his courage and said that.
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I said, he's got a job.
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He's got that lane.
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If he wasn't doing it, I'd be doing it.
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They won't even let me on the colleges.
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They riot so bad.
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We tried, but I now have a responsibility.
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And so to all of you to peacefully speak at city councils, county commission, school boards,
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colleges, I don't care if it's 100 people or a thousand.
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All of you have to go out and speak out on the street corners at church everywhere, because
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this is an attempt at intimidation and to shut down our access to speech and a chilling
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effect.
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So I get all these calls.
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When are you doing it?
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Where are you going?
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I've got to get it organized.
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I've got to talk to different groups that sponsor it.
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People can reach out to me that do this.
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I will go with with Turning Point and I'm going to go out there and I'm not going to
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wear a bulletproof vest.
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I'm going to do a nationwide tour because that's what this is about.
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It's not about sticking your head in the tiger's mouth just to act tough.
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We don't have a choice.
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And we have to lead by example here.
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Now I'll tell you this, if I walk out somewhere and there's 3,000 people and the police
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haven't stuck people on the roofs, you know there's a stand down by their managers that
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told them not to.
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And if I walk out and I see nobody on the roofs, well then I'm going to come out and
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point that out and be looking for it.
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And I'll be like, there's a shooter, there's a shooter, all right, it was a setup.
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Seriously, that's what it's because I'll be waiting.
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I'll be watching when I'm speaking.
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Oh, there's the shooter right there.
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All right, get yourself a good shot there big man.
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Now's the time.
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I'm going to come out of the Batcave into the third dimension.
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I come out when they got lockdowns going.
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They're shutting down the parks and the bridges and the restaurants.
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I come out when I'm at January 6 trying to stop people going to the building.
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I come out when I'm needed at key points and I'm coming out of the cave.
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You can kind of see the scripting of what Alex wants to do here.
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He's making it a little too obvious that he wants to go out and pretend that someone
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is trying to shoot at him.
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And it feels like it's mostly rooted in him being jealous of the attention that Kirk is
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getting.
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Yeah, 100%.
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This is still less than 24 hours after Kirk got shot.
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And Alex is already making himself the hero of the story and imagining getting Kirk's
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old company to fund his college tour.
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This is disgusting stuff just on a human level.
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I mean, one of the simple things to recognize about saying something like, I'll go do this
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thing because I'm better than him and I won't get shot implies that it's his fault.
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It implies that if Charlie Kirk weren't Charlie Kirk and were instead Alex Jones, somehow
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this never would have happened.
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Well, I mean, certainly they weren't watching the rooftops.
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Just by virtue of the greatness of Alex Jones, if you insert him into any natural disaster,
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it will not have occurred because he's so great.
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Yeah, if Trump were president, no wars would have ever started.
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And if Alex were running everything, there'd be never any security lapses of, no one would
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ever throw coffee on him or anything.
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But this, of course, he doesn't care, requires him to also say that other people deserve
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what they get because they are not as great as me.
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Eh, that's a side implication maybe.
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So when Alex is talking about the times that he comes out of the cave, he wants the image
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to be that when shit gets serious, he takes to the streets.
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But the reality is a little bit different.
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When easy attention is available, Alex is willing to leave the studio.
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That's all this is.
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When the COVID restrictions are starting, Alex could make a video being a huge rebel
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by going to Barton Springs for a swim.
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He could pretend to be a revolutionary by yelling at an underpaid employee somewhere
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who was wearing a mask.
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It was an attention and publicity feeding frenzy because people were scared and desperate
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for anyone who was projecting confidence.
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When Alex gets more engaged with the world outside his studio, it's either because he's
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desperate or because he sees a huge opportunity to put in minimal effort and gain big amounts
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of attention.
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And right now, it's probably both.
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And yeah, who cares if you're exploiting your dead friend to do it?
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Oh, man.
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I mean, at least he really didn't care slash didn't like Charlie Kirk, right?
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Isn't that what we're all happy about?
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At least Alex isn't actually grieving the loss of a friend because he didn't like that
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person.
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I guess it would really throw me for a loop if he was distraught.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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At least this comports with my image of who I think this shithead is.
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Yeah, it is so strange.
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It is so strange because I understand why people think the way they do.
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I understand why they do the things that they do, but I don't understand how you could fire
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somebody for being like, hey, man, this guy sucks.
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And not also understand that Alex is saying far worse things about him through what he's
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saying.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I understand it's not explicitly Charlie Kirk sucks, but around this.
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Yeah.
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I think that there's a debatable, like better or worse hierarchy to, I think it's great
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he's dead and I'm going to profit off his death.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Those two are both horrible things to say about someone after they die.
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I'm not saying that they're great, right?
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Yeah.
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But I'm saying if I'm looking at the two of them, I'm going, one of those is a person
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getting out some stuff and the other one is a person who's going to destroy human society.
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I think I would rather somebody dance on my grave than monetize my grave.
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Right.
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I think.
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Although I don't know if I can.
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I mean, you'd be dead.
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Yeah.
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But just in theory, I think that dancing on it would be less distasteful.
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Yeah.
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You know what the dance ends, who knows when the monetization ends?
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It's a business.
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It's not supposed to end.
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It's supposed to go on forever.
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And dancing is like a fun process.
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Maybe you get something out of it.
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Maybe you get something out of it.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Or at least, you know.
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It's not a capitalist enterprise.
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You're going to fight back.
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Now your shoes are muddy.
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Maybe you need new shoes.
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See?
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We all lose.
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Maybe you need a new shirt.
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Alex might have one for you.
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Uh oh.
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Not like I'm reclusive.
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I just can digitally sit here and reach so many people on 400 plus radio stations, hundreds
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of TV and cable stations, massive viewers on Rumble, Mfullwars.com, Force Law Show,
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Exit Relog Jones.
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So I've strategically, you know, as a general in this fight, I've been parading around right
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at the front line.
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I'm in a forward bunker up at the front line.
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But now this is the time to be George Washington and lay it on Providence and get out there.
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In fact, I'm excited to do it.
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Now's the time to exercise our freedom.
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Now's the time to show courage in the face of intimidation.
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Now's the time to let these bullies know we're all Charlie Kirk now.
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Oh God.
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I want to put a t-shirt out.
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It's like a black shirt.
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No.
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No.
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Red, white, and blue.
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I want the Mfullwars red, white, and blue shirt that Rob's wearing.
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I haven't seen that shirt.
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That's badass.
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It's the best shirt I've seen.
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Rob, come in here if you can't stand for the camera, people can see the shirt.
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I want one that says we are all Charlie Kirk now.
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And I want to, I want everybody to put it out.
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Put out your own.
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You might notice that Alex definitely isn't going to put out a Charlie Kirk memorial t-shirt
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and give the proceeds to Kirk's family.
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It's a nice thought to want to honor his memory, but Alex is also going to be sure he makes
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a buck off it.
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Yeah.
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I know I say this a lot and make a big point of this, but this guy is a fucking piece of
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shit.
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His supposed friend died less than a day ago and he's brainstorming on camera ways that
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it can be profitable for him.
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This is disgusting.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It is so perfect.
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An encapsulation.
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The juxtaposition of somebody getting fired from fucking CNBC for saying something mild
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like maybe we shouldn't yell, let's go kill each other all fucking day.
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Violent begets violence.
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Right.
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Words and thoughts become action.
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But you know what?
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They would have, they would have been fine with this.
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They would have been fine with this cause it's about making money.
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Yep.
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This is about hurting anybody's feelings.
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This is not about being mean.
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This sure.
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We suck the bones of him dry and let his family starve to death.
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Yeah.
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But this is about making money.
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Well, I think the essential piece of this is that Alex is like, Charlie was a fucking
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shithead opportunist sales guy.
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He made a lot of money.
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His family's fine.
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Yep.
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I can try and get a piece of this.
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I can wet my beak here.
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No better way to honor his memory than to steal from his memory.
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It's fucked up.
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It is the circle of life.
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I see this and I'm just like, I feel like this level of not treating each other like
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people is, I'm glad that I don't, I don't feel like this.
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Yeah.
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And I dread the idea of running into someone who does.
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Yeah.
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It is interesting to think that maybe this whole conservative ecosphere is congealed
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around the only people who could possibly behave the way that they do.
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It could be self selecting in a way.
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It's just, you're just the people who can act like this and it's an unfortunately profitable
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way to act in the same way that, you know, being a con person was profitable.
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That's why people did it.
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They did it all the time.
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It was free.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, turns out there was some advanced warning, advanced knowledge.
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Uh, you know, we heard about the trans news networks.
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Right.
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Local news is dying, but I'm glad that trans news locally is still strong.
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Yeah.
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So Alex touches on some advanced notice stuff.
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I want to get to Trump's statement here, but I want to show you something first.
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Okay.
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Now, Grok confirmed this.
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I went and looked it up and confirmed it.
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I saw this last night and I wanted to wait and check and a whole bunch of corporate publications,
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a full day before Charlie was shot, put out articles saying Charlie Kirk was shot and
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killed, but just the headline.
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Ah, so if I were Alex, I'd be fucking embarrassed by this.
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For one thing, he said that Grok had confirmed this news, which is really, really sad, but
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more importantly, we do this every time there's a tragedy that Alex can exploit.
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There's always some timestamp that mysteriously shows someone reporting on a thing before
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it happened.
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Some idiot will post something like this on social media every time something happens
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and Alex will report it as fact each time and he's always wrong.
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AI bots were wrong about so much in the wake of the shooting and Grok was even telling
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people that the video of Kirk being shot was fake and that he was okay for a while.
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Those tools aren't meant to determine truth.
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They just scrape information from places that the person running them tells them to get
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it from.
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If Elon Musk is feeding his robot all the dumb shit people post on Twitter and who knows
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what other disreputable message boards, it's going to just regurgitate that information.
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It's not confirmatory.
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It doesn't have that value.
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The fact that Alex is saying Grok confirmed this, it just shows how much he's given up.
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Yeah.
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I think a lot of these people have the conception of AI in a more imagery framework.
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They view the internet, imagine the internet as a big landscape.
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Then you have the AI, which is like a person, like a concierge.
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He's like, oh, let me help.
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What it really is, is just all of the internet squished into a square and you're trying to
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find the even smaller part from the square and that doesn't help you.
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It doesn't help you at all.
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It's just a square.
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It's like making a search engine talk to you.
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It's making it conversational because you don't want to read multiple things.
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And great, you found a shortcut for that, but it's inconsistent and you're going to
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get bad results.
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The irony is that Alex's view of what this stuff is, it's the same as the AI con people
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who are trying to treat it like it's a god of some sort.
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He thinks it's an oracle.
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The same thing happened at the very dawn of search engines.
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Whenever you would have like, ask Jeeves and he would be like, here, just ask it a question.
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That's what you do.
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And that was even personified.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Same shit.
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And, um, yeah, so I guess most of this is about, there was a AI created, I think, book
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about Charlie's assassination.
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Probably someone just put in a prompt and it spit out a book and it was on Amazon and
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they had the release date wrong.
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And so it had said that it was released on the ninth, but it was, it was released on
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the 10th.
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The AI generated shit book was then picked up with a poor date by another AI generated
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shit poster to then do the thing.
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And then that turned into a circle jerk of AI bots releasing all this shit.
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That's my understanding of what happened.
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Yeah.
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We should really not be doing any of this.
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It's usually, oftentimes what happens is that there'll be like a Facebook group or something
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like that that has a, oh, it predates the event, but it had changed its name or something
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like that.
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It was a preexisting group and someone trolled people with that.
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But this, this appears to be some sort of just weird glitch thing.
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Oh man.
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Anyway, uh, Trump has announced that he is going to honor Charlie Kirk's memory.
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Unlike Alex, who is exploiting.
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This is just now breaking.
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President Trump announces he is awarding Charlie Kirk a posthumous presidential medal of freedom.
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We're all Charlie Kirk now.
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This is going to backfire, but they're going for it.
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Good luck selling that shirt.
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So I feel like I could be a dick about this and say that Kirk shouldn't get this medal,
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but honestly, who cares?
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Here's a list of some of the people that Obama gave one of those things to.
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Right?
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Lorne Michaels, Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, George H.W. Bush, and Gloria Estefan.
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Why not?
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It's a nice honor for people to be given.
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And you know, there's a lot of very deserving people who have been important figures, but
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it's also kind of a way for presidents to hang out with their favorite celebrities.
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And in his first term, Trump seemed to maybe give it to a disproportionate number of golfers.
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Huh.
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Weird.
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Weird.
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Crazy.
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It's just kind of...
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Did they play a round of golf together?
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I don't know.
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Strange.
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It's just kind of a thing.
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You know?
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I think that there are other medals and stuff that would be far more distasteful for someone
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to get.
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This is just kind of like, who cares?
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No, it all makes sense.
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But if you look at medals as a whole, throughout time, when governments give them, not good.
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Not good.
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I mean, I was scrolling through the list of recipients, and General Wesley Clark got one
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back in the Clinton administration.
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And I think that it might cheapen his feelings about it, for someone like Charlie Kirk to
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get one, but I don't care.
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It's not that big a deal how Wesley Clark feels about his medals.
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I mean, I understand that it's like, here's the difference, right?
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It's a medal, and I get that you have a little thing right there, and I get that it goes
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on a list there.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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You're imagining it's like a little thing you pin to your little...
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No, no.
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I mean, you know what I mean.
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That's the motion that you made.
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Right, right, right.
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But I was just, you know, whatever.
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You get the thing.
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But to me, it's identical to just getting a regular picture with the president, right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's a little bit of a...
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It's a special meet and greet, but yeah, sure.
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It's exclusive company in a way, but I don't care.
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Yeah, I don't care either.
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So Alex is off on his missions, and he talks about how he thinks that shit's gonna work
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out.
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I bet it is.
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The Supreme Court's gonna come in and help him.
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I just want listeners to remember something.
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I didn't even talk about our case being at the Supreme Court, it being all over the news
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yesterday, because this Russia escalation with the drones, it looks like a false flag
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was so big, and then this happened.
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But even mainstream media goes, wow, Jones was found guilty by judges.
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It looks like it wasn't fair.
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Oh my God, looks like the Supreme Court's gonna take it.
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Didn't even get to that, because we're busy covering the other big issues for everybody
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else out there.
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But remember, we need your prayers, we need your support, and we need you to financially
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go to the Alexandstore.com, because I am, again, right on the edge of the red.
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I've got seven lawyers, top ones suing the hell out of the Democrats, the law firms,
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deposing them, finding all the stuff they did.
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It's been referred to the Justice Department.
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The Justice Department is investigating it, I can tell you that.
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And I'm gonna stop right there, but that's what I'm gonna be gone the next few days.
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Part of my mission I'm on.
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But I'll be on air, popping in.
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The point is, is I got swatted last night.
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I don't make a big deal about it.
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It's happened so many times, they just come by and make sure everything's okay.
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But I'm obviously a target just like Kirk.
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Just to understand, we're doing this because, not because we hate the globalists, but because
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we love America and our families.
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We don't fight because we hate the enemy, we fight because we love what we're defending.
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That said, this isn't a game.
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You've heard me predict they're gearing up for the Podesta plan to launch massive unrest
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and political assassinations.
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Next, they're gonna hit their own people in a false flag.
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Oh, so you're fine then.
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If next is they're gonna false flag their own people, then Alex is safe.
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So now, now, okay, okay, wait, why?
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What?
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Well, because I guess it wouldn't be believable to, you know, do two false flags in the same direction.
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You kind of got to ping pong back and forth.
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Right.
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You know?
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Right.
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Boy, that sounds, that sounds like a risky line of work.
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Well, let me, let me just explain.
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Alex is probably convinced that there's going to be some retaliatory violence against the left.
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That would make sense.
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He's preemptively trying to explain it within his framework of this stupid Podesta plan
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garbage.
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And he wants your money.
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The Supreme Court already declined to take this case like six months ago.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what other, like, I don't know if you can just keep badgering the Supreme
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Court.
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Can you keep asking them to hear a case?
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I don't know.
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I guess maybe.
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But yeah, Alex thinks that he's going to be able to reignite this flame.
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Yeah.
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And trying to get the
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to DC to talk to Ed Martin is a big part of trying to sell that.
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And failing that, Ed Martin is somebody who's willing to talk to Alex.
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Alex did post a photo on Twitter of him with Ed Martin.
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Right.
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So like, this gives the air of legitimacy to his, like, we're, I'm still in a fight.
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So like, I kind of get the strategic move.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't think the Supreme Court's going to decide to hear this, but boy, you're making
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it look like you're trying.
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Really, really are.
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I mean, and you never know, maybe the Supreme Court goes on an ayahuasca retreat and they
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go, wouldn't it be hilarious if, and that's what happens.
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I have no faith in the Supreme Court, or at least greatly diminished.
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Sure.
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But just based on the fact that they've already declined to hear this, it makes me think,
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like, what could have changed since six months ago?
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No.
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Nothing.
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No.
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If it wasn't a First Amendment issue, then it's not now.
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Right.
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And as much, as cynical as I can be about these courts, I still think just the fact
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that they didn't hear it before means it's probably not traction now.
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Yeah.
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This would be the level of a Supreme Court justice meeting going, well, let's just burn
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it all down then.
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You know, like the whole law, let's just, no, it's whatever I fucking feel like on whatever
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day we're talking.
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That's where we're at in terms of if they take this case.
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Gorsuch is passing the blunt from Squeeze.
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Exactly.
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And he's like, wouldn't it be funny if we did it?
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It would have to be that level of fucking, let's just go wacky with it.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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We'll see what happens with all of this stuff.
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Chase filling in for a bit.
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Man, I hope next year he is owner, sole owner and operator of InfoWars.
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And why not just make an AI Alex Jones?
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Absolutely.
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He's already done it.
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He has.
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He's already done it.
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Yes.
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He's already done it.
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Just fucking downsize, lower your overhead.
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Get rid of the expensive talent, keep the talent.
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Absolutely.
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It's completely replicatable by AI.
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It's identical.
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You could not recreate a person, but an AI could be Alex Jones in a heartbeat.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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God, that would be so fucking funny if Alex is like the biggest example of someone who
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AI takes their job.
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If he ends up like a drunk just on the street in Austin yelling about how the globalists
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and Chase took his job.
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It would be, I don't know.
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I think we would have to make a monument to it.
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We would have to build a monument to the time Alex got replaced by AI.
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Yeah.
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It would be, it would be.
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And you and I would have then witnessed an amazing story.
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Yeah.
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If that ends up happening.
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Yep.
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God, I hope that happens.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we'll check in.
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See if there's any progress on that front.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo yeah.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.