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N-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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Knowledge fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys,
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saying, we are the bad guys.
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Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight.
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Riddler, riddler, riddler.
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I need, I need money.
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Riddler, riddler, riddler.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and,
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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.
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N-n-n-n-n-knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for ya.
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What's up?
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What'd you bring us about today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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Well, I think mine is fairly obvious.
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Welcome back.
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The New York mayoral rate is, yeah, okay.
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Heating up, you got a first-hand glimpse into on-the-ground politics.
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I did.
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He was talking to people about Cuomo.
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No, it wasn't Cuomo, it was, what's his name?
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Mom Donnie?
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Yes, Mom Donnie, that's what it is.
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Because he was on a town hall with Bernie Sanders.
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And they were talking about stuff that real people think is important.
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Good.
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Yeah, it was good.
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As a resident of Chicago, the New York mayor is important to me.
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Huge!
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You know me, I've always been like a big mayor head.
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Just like mayors all across the, yeah, yeah.
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No, the US Open was great.
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Yeah.
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It was a fantastic time.
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You had a nice trip?
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Yep, fantastic.
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Couldn't have gone better.
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Went over to the Big Apple.
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Could not have gone better.
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Everything, we Mr. Magood our way through everything, where it just seemed like as long
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as we just move forward and don't bother anybody, everything will go smooth.
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And it did.
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It was perfect.
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You're not gonna fall off the side of this building because the beam is gonna land exactly
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as it was.
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Exactly, it just goes right there and we just keep walking.
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As long as you don't stop.
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Because once you stop, then stuff is gonna hit you.
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You just gotta keep going.
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I can't imagine that Mr. Magood is a relevant reference for anybody.
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Do you mean a cartoon that was irrelevant when I was young?
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Yeah.
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I think that is, whew.
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A three generations removed cartoon that I really like.
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Jim Bacchus, ladies and gentlemen.
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Does anybody want to really get into Tex Avery's?
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Didn't they make a Mr. Magood movie?
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They could not possibly.
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What could possibly sustain a movie for Mr. Magood?
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Him doing a bunch of crazy dumb shit, Mr. Bean-ing it up.
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But he's also an old man who laughs around a little bit.
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I feel like he's got one defining characteristic.
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He's blind and he moves forward.
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Yeah, but is he blind?
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Yeah.
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Isn't that the idea?
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I guess he is.
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Well, he's not fully blind.
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I guess that's why it's okay for us to not make fun of him or something?
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Yeah.
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There was a movie.
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What happened?
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Was it live action?
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It's starring Leslie Nielsen.
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That sounds right.
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From 1997.
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Wild.
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A myopic billionaire defeats jewel smugglers in his usual bumbling manner.
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That's the description on IMDb.
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Fair enough.
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Mr. Magood, a near-sighted elderly gent whose visual impairment leads him on all sorts of
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adventures and odd situations.
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That's another description.
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I appreciate, again, that the plot around which this entire character is based is that
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he cannot see well and so things happen.
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He's near-sighted so he gets into all sorts of scrapes.
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I think that's why I have just identified with him my entire life.
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I am also very near-sighted and I get into a lot of scrapes.
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I'm looking up this movie.
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We also are featuring Ernie Hudson, Steven Tobolowsky, and Malcolm McDowell.
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All three people featured on Heroes.
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Do you know what I like about Malcolm McDowell in that era?
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He'll do anything.
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Everywhere.
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He will be anywhere.
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Yep.
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He was great.
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He was available.
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So yeah, he played Mr. Linderman on Heroes.
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Just re-watched that.
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That was a lot of fun.
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I believe you.
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What was your bright spot?
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I don't know.
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I got to re-watch Heroes while you were gone.
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Hence why I have Steven Tobolowsky, Ernie Hudson, and Malcolm McDowell on the brain.
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No, that was fun.
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I took a little bit of me time while you were on your trip to New York and just did some
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dumb shit and checked out of the Infowars world.
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Nice.
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I told you before we started recording, I dipped my toe back into Path of Exile 2.
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I'm having some fun with that.
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Watched Heroes.
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No, it's great.
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It's funny that there's this weird incentive I have to take vacations because as long as
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I'm gone, you will finally not be listening to Infowars.
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So it's a dual purpose thing.
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I get to not be here and I finally get you away from the...
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It's like a mental health break.
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Well, you have an opportunity for me to get away from it.
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I don't always take that opportunity.
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But this time I did and yeah.
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Nice.
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Good times.
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Good times.
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But now we're back.
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We are back.
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Yes, we are back.
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And we were spoiled right before your trip with a wealth of Owen Troyer has quit and
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everyone has feelings about it content.
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And now we're back to the real world where the dust has settled.
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We're going to be talking about September 3rd, 2025 today.
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And that is the next day.
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This is day one of post Owen Infowars.
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We've moved on.
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We're in the PO box, if you will.
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We're in POI.
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Post Owen Infowars.
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Jam up that tarot route.
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We're making POI.
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We're making POI.
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All right.
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So we'll check in and see how Alex is emotionally dealing with the fact that his buddy is gone.
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Probably great.
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He's so good.
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He's cool.
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He doesn't care at all.
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No.
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But first, before we get into this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some
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new Wongs.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, welcome to the family, Te Pache.
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And good luck for this winter season on the slopes of Niseko.
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You're a wonderful little rabbit deer monster and you'll help Tom in Tokyo karate chop Alex
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right in the neck if you ever dare show his face out here.
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Pull up, fess up, and don't be a fuck up.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy Wong.
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I'm a policy Wong.
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Thank you very much.
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I'm a policy Wong.
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I'm a policy Wong.
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I'm a policy Wong.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we have technocratic mixture.
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So thank you so much for joining us.
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We'll see you next time.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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We'll see you next time.
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Let the new oratorio adopt me?
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No?
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No.
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No?
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I knew you were today.
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But they're not all crazy rare. They're all just structurally similar to an element called
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Lathanium or Lathanum.
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Scientists were working on a newly discovered ore and trying to isolate cerium and in the process they discovered
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lanthanum. So it got its name from the Greek verb that means to lie hidden. That's what lanthanum comes from.
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The elements that have similar properties to lanthanum are likewise seen as sneaky like they're hiding behind other elements and compounds
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which is where the name rare earth
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elements comes from. Rare like hidden as opposed to rare as scarce.
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Yes, some of them are super common like cerium, but they're difficult to extract and refine into usable forms.
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China has absolutely cornered this market partially through some pretty exploitative deals with foreign countries
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but also through a lack of robust competition. The only example Alex gave in his
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clip there was silver which isn't a rare earth mineral. All of the rare earths
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they're silver in appearance, which is where this confusion probably comes from and Alex sells silver.
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Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, it's on the brain. Rare earth mineral production and refinement is an expensive process and one that no one really wanted to do.
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It wasn't worth the investment when these things didn't have profitable applications
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so China was able to build up what is now an effective monopoly over the course of decades.
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Right. In the 80s there was less need for elements that would make iPhone screens possible
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so there weren't a ton of people trying to fight China over what appeared to be an investment that wasn't making a good return.
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Right. Like countries just kind of got into a place where it's like well, that's a money hole.
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Yeah. And if China is gonna make enough of these things
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at a loss for them that we can still buy the thing from them. Right. That's worth it. Right.
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All right. It's perfectly explainable through market forces. Yeah, I bet this will never come back to bite us.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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Alex is just making up numbers about China's control over the rare earth mineral market going from 98% to 97%.
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That's all just bluster. Sure.
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It was announced recently that China's exports of rare earths dropped 3.4% in August 2025
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which may be what Alex is basing these numbers on. Okay.
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But that's not taking into account that prior to that dip China's rare earth exports hit record highs in July going up
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14.5% year over year from 2024.
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In effect their rare earth exports have increased since Trump took office and Alex is reporting the opposite because he's a liar. Right.
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So, I mean, it's a complicated issue. It's not like
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it's not something that, you know, a lot of things that Alex talks about are like, well
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you don't even need to ever think about this. Yeah. But the way that the, you know, Chinese companies and, you know,
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the government's influence through those companies has a pretty solid lock on a lot of these these minerals.
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No, I think that... It's a relevant world issue. No, it's, I mean, I thought it's probably never gonna be relevant to me
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on account of my
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inability to understand most of it, but I find it very interesting.
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I find it interesting nonetheless because it is one of those like, how about that kind of stories of there
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there's just a way things work and then this unfolds and now here we are and we're like, ah, I wish it had gone differently.
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It's fun. It's not a world ending crisis and it's not like, oh my god, China owns all the water.
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Like we will have no water if they decide to not let us have some. Yeah. But it is, you know, at least in terms of
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markets and production it is kind of like a somewhat, maybe we should, you know, diversify that market a little.
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Right, right. I don't know. What does it mean we pay $50 more? I guess that, I mean, that sucks.
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I don't know what it actually means. Well, we're gonna pay $50 more with tariffs anyway.
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You know, right? Like, I don't know what any of it actually means. Yeah. But yeah.
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So Alex is thinking about China and how they're screwing us over on every turn. Oh, yeah.
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And it just so happens that, you know, Xi got caught on a hot mic. Uh oh.
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And Alex is pretty excited about this. Okay, okay.
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Now Xi Jinping got caught on a hot mic making a very vampiric statement to Vladimir Putin
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talking about, we have the video with subtitles, about how we're gonna live forever. Immortality through organ harvesting.
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Alright. Now we're talking.
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The organs Xi muses on living to 150 in rare hot mic moment with Putin.
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Now, again, I haven't been to the doctor about my Achilles in four years. It was 80% blown then.
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It's 100% now. I did have a doctor look at it, but I haven't been there to set up surgery.
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Wait, what?
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And I walk around on Achilles 10 and they don't believe until they actually see it on my right leg.
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And I would always have daughters.
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Most of them said they wouldn't do the surgery.
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It's so reconstructive as I waited so long to fix it.
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Tenant's dead. And I found one pretty prestigious one.
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He's the top guy in Austin or close to it.
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He said, I'll do it.
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He said, we're in and you know that you don't want to use tissue out of the US.
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You want to use it out of China.
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It's got the clean, fresh, good tissue.
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What?
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And.
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I what you mean a cadaver Achilles tendon.
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He goes.
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It's lab grown.
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And I looked at him and I said, no, it's not.
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He said, do you want your leg fixed or not?
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This has the same energy as the guy who's like, don't pop those air bubbles.
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Packing stuff is made in China.
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That's Chinese air that's in those bubbles.
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Yep. Yep.
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So this is a fascinating story that Alex is telling, and I can't imagine how he runs into so many colorful characters all the time.
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It's almost like he's making up almost everything about his life.
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All these demons popping up and harassing him.
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All the prestigious doctors trying to get him hooked on that primo Chinese leg tissue.
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That's the stuff.
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Alex got distracted while telling this story because he was talking about this hot mic moment where she said that he was going to become a mortal through organ transplanting.
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And in fact, that's one of the main headlines of the episode that Alex is doing.
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Right.
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Quote.
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She caught on a hot mic discussing harvesting organs.
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Nice.
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The Info Wars title.
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That's good.
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That's solid.
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I thought that was an interesting headline because this hot mic moment that was caught, it was between she and Putin.
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But the coverage here seems to be really stressing the she part of that.
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Wow.
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And that's weird because it was Putin who was talking about organ harvesting.
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Well, I mean, hey, you know, you, one dictator says one thing and you say the other one says it.
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Nobody's going to think too hard about it.
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So from Reuters, quote, as Putin and she walked toward the Tiananmen rostrum, where they viewed the parade with Kim, Putin's translator could be heard saying in Chinese, quote, biotechnology is continuously developing.
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The translator added after an inaudible passage, quote, human organs can be continuously transplanted.
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The longer you live, the younger you become, and you can even achieve immortality.
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Putin's translator was saying that in Chinese because they were translating what Putin said to Xi.
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Right, right, right.
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Putin's translator wouldn't be talking in Chinese to convey something Xi said to Putin or else why would you need a translator there?
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Oh my God.
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I watched the video and it's very clear that Putin is talking in Russian and the mic doesn't pick up what he's saying.
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Yeah.
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And then immediately afterwards, the translator says the stuff about organs in Chinese to Xi.
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Wow.
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The only way that Alex could report that Xi was saying this is if he's too lazy to look into any details about the story or he's so ideologically bent on supporting Putin that he can't tell the truth about how this conversation happened.
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It has to be.
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And either way, you're getting bad information from Alex about this hot mic moment.
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You know, listen, I respect maybe there's a union.
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Maybe there's a code.
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Maybe there's something about being a translator that I don't understand that has a sort of like hard-lined ridge of where and when and what to do.
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But if I'm a translator and anybody I'm translating, specifically one who might have the ability to do something like this, is like, you could always transplant organs and maybe live forever.
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I'd be like, I got to kill you right now.
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The older you get, the younger you get.
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Why did you tell me this information?
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Shouldn't you have like a translator?
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Shouldn't you have a mechanical translator?
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If you're going to be like, I'm going to live forever by sealing this guy's organs.
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Right.
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You know that first do no harm.
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You know, that's the translator version of that, which is first don't say crazy shit.
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Don't say crazy shit.
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Yeah.
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If you're translating between two, let's say authoritarian dictator types at a military parade.
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Right.
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Right.
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Maybe don't translate the crazy shit.
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You know what?
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I'm going to let this one go.
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I think that when it comes to harvesting organs to make yourself eternally young, let's let the language gap make it harder for these two to work together on that.
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Let's not facilitate this.
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Yeah, that's...
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Huh?
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How about that?
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So Alex has a bad Achilles.
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Yep.
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And this doctor wanted to give him Chinese tissue.
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Yep.
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And, uh, like, I think that Alex is burying the lead here because this doctor is smuggling organs.
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Right.
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And Alex doesn't seem too concerned about that.
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Wow.
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And then I go to one of the, you know, top orthopedic surgeons and he's just honest.
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He's like, yeah, I got to deal with China.
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I ship it all in.
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And where do you think it's coming from, boys and girls?
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These folks are getting prepped and ready with hoods over their head to be taken to the medical center.
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This came out, what, four years ago.
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So this is the real dilemma that we all face.
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I'm seriously concerned at whatever point, just cutting my right leg off as a symbol of commitment.
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I'm serious.
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And I'll just put a peg leg on it.
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In fact, I'm probably gonna go with amputation.
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That's probably the best policy.
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In fact, I'll have him film it.
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I'll put it on TV because everybody needs to understand the commitment to this.
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Cause I already killed a bunch of my kids back when I was rationalizing it when I was a young man.
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And you believe the lie that it wasn't a human or it was a blob of tissue.
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And of course now I know that's not true.
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And I repented 30 plus years ago.
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And, but I'm just always committed that I'll never kill another one of my children.
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And that's a pretty simple thing to say you're going to do, right?
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Hmm.
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Well then would you kill somebody for their organ?
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Please cut off your leg.
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Please do that.
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Dude.
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It would be so cool.
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It would be like, think about like the CCP would probably just step down from power.
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Yeah.
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Why would you, there's a man who cut off his own leg.
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That defiance is such a powerful image.
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I mean, okay, look, you've got a man who's ready and willing to peg leg, right?
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To save, I, how many unnamed Chinese people with bags over their head, apparently having their organs removed on the regular.
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I see like a line and a conveyor belts.
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They're just getting too good at it.
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But here is this man.
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Walking nay hobbling.
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Exactly.
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I think, first of all, I think there's something kind of right about old Alex having a peg leg.
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I think, I think there's something right about that.
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Yeah.
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And not, not like a, you know, a prosthetic replacement limb or anything.
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It's gotta be a wood, like a broomstick.
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Old timey black beard.
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We're talking full on pirate shit.
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Yeah.
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I I'm, I'm into this.
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I'm so into the idea of Alex as a sign of how sorry he is about abortion.
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Yep.
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Cutting off his leg.
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Really into it.
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It would make me respect him a lot more.
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Yeah.
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Alex, you want to win me over, cut off your leg?
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Not a ton more, but at least a leg more.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the news at the core of this year is that she and Putin were caught on that hot mic discussing organ transplants.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And the kind of content that you get on Alex's show about it is him ranting about how his integrity won't let him fix his leg with possibly stolen tendons.
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So he's going to give himself a peg leg as a political statement.
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Yeah.
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In the process, he also made clear that his doctor is involved in an illegal organ smuggling operation.
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Probably.
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He isn't too concerned about blowing the whistle on that.
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It's almost like he doesn't think about calling the police about this doctor because he's making up the whole organ smuggling part of this story.
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I mean, grandstanding about how he's going to cut his leg off.
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He's going to do shit.
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I do like the original conversation because there are some parts of it that I can believe, such as him being like, it's lab grown.
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And Alex being like, no, it's not.
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And then the doctor being like, do you want the leg or not?
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Do you want it?
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Listen, we're about to.
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I know you.
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I'm not going to do the thing that you want to do right now.
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Do you want me to do the surgery or do you want to go away?
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Come downstairs and let's see the fish human legs that are growing with sad eyes in the tank.
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Yeah.
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Come on, man.
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Alex said it like that was the sinister part.
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And now that sounds like exhaustion to me.
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And that's thoroughly believable.
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Yeah.
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It's believable that someone's annoyed with.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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So Alex has been getting some heat, obviously, because Owen left.
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Sure.
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And then he screamed on air about it.
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He did cry, baby.
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A little.
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Yeah.
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And so he's been getting a little bit of feedback and he's upset.
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Oh, it's so fetishized in the West because we know our establishment.
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We know our elite.
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They're completely out of control and evil to just bash our politicians and leaders who need to be kept on a short leash and sent to president for what they've done and things like that.
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But the world's a very small place, so we don't really talk about China.
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All the other tyrannical systems that are affecting us, because I notice whenever I talk about it, I see comments on info wars, comments on X, you name it.
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It's not a lot of people, but it's still a sizable minority.
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Why aren't you talking about the Jews?
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I mean, I could talk about weather weapons and banning geoengineering and Bill Gates is playing.
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And literally, there'll be a third of the comments sometimes.
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Why are you coming up for the Jews?
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Alex is feeling a little attacked about this at the moment because Owen Troyer just quit.
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And a lot of the response that he's undoubtedly seen on social media is people saying that Owen was too critical of Israel.
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So Alex fired him.
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Right.
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There have been a lot of variations on that theme, and it's clearly in Alex's head.
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Yeah.
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It's something that's getting to him.
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Not complicated.
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And if I were Alex, I would get ready to hear a whole lot more of this kind of stuff.
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He's let the Nazis into the house by trying to chase Nick Fuentes's clout, and that's going to come with the price.
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Like the kind of people, the kind of audience that you're courting by being buddies with him are people who are going to demand that you be a Nazi, or they're going to complain that you're not Nazi enough.
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That's the game.
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That's what you accept when you ask them to buy your pills.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You have joined an organization that is based, I guess, entirely around purity.
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Don't be surprised that you're getting tested.
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It's going to be a constant thing.
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Don't be surprised that you will fail that.
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Absolutely.
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You will never be pure enough.
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That's the idea behind the test.
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Yeah.
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Jeez.
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You let the kid into the house, and now he's letting in all his friends.
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Who could have seen this coming?
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Yeah.
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But I think that if you scroll through some of the comments on whether it's Owen's video or Alex's videos, there is so much of that shit.
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Yeah.
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And it's not surprising.
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People, man.
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Just still doing it.
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Yep.
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So there's some news in Trump World.
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Yeah.
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How's he doing?
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Great.
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So cool.
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Yeah.
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One of the cool things that he did was he blew up a boat.
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I'm sorry.
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Did you hear about that?
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No, he blew up a boat.
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Yeah.
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He blew up a boat.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Venezuelan boat.
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Okay.
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Trump blew up this vessel that they tracked and knew who it was and were surveilling on the ground when it left.
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And they knew that it was the government backed TDA, narco terrorist designation that killed millions of Americans.
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And so Trump killed them because they were trying to come into our waters.
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And I think it's 100% in his power.
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I mean, that is a weapon system.
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They tracked it.
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They knew they were loading it.
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They knew it was the gang.
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They know what they bring in on the boats.
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The fentanyl.
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We're going to end up fentanyl to kill millions of people.
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Boom.
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Eliminate the threat.
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So Trump posted a video on Truth Social bragging that he had blown up a Venezuelan boat that he claimed had trend day.
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A Raghwa gang members on it.
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And I guess Alex is cool with that.
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In the real world is a very clear violation of international law and human human rights conventions.
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Wow.
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The Trump administration has offered no evidence that this boat was full of drug traffickers.
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And even if it were, there's no justification for blowing it up and killing the 11 people on board.
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Probably not.
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It's pretty wild that Alex is just fine with this, if only for how much of the high ground he's giving up by signing off on it.
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Even if you support the idea of killing alleged drug traffickers, this is a pretty simple this level of power could get out of hand thing.
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I mean, I feel like if it's just like, oh, the president said they were trend day, a Raghwa gang members.
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And he's designated them as terrorists.
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And like, I don't know, why were you ever mad about Guantanamo?
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Yeah.
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Like the president said they were terrorists.
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Yeah.
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Like he could have killed them all.
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Right.
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I mean, by this by Alex's justification, like you just lose the ability to make so many arguments here.
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I mean, I I'm surprised that we are all like, okay, it's already gotten too far.
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Because we're at the level of being like, you know what?
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I think we need to explain that the president having the ability to just disappear people with a point of a button and then post a video about it on social media is good or bad.
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We're gone.
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It's too far gone.
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It's too far past it.
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He shouldn't be allowed to just blow people up.
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That's obvious.
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Yeah.
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For so many reasons.
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We should live in a world where you do that and you're immediately impeached.
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Yeah.
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And then and then the social media aspect of it posting a video, even if even if for whatever reason, maybe I'm an idiot and you can explain it away in like a moral or ethical or legal or defensive reason or any number of those things.
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In no world do you convince me that it's totally okay for you to post the video on social media after posting a video and being like, haha, look at this boat.
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I blew up.
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No, that's mad king.
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But that's insane behavior.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's yeah.
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But I guess it's acceptable now.
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And Alex thinks it's cool.
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And within his power.
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There we go.
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So there's other Trump news.
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Of course.
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I don't know.
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Did you watch the Epstein survivors press conference?
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No.
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So a number of survivors and their lawyers did a press conference along with like Marjorie Taylor Greene and like Ro Khanna.
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So it was like a bipartisan representation of people in Congress.
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Sure.
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And they were talking about how Representative Massey had put forth a petition, a discharge petition to get all the information about Epstein released.
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Right.
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And that's what they wanted.
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They wanted like this disclosure.
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Sure.
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And Trump was like, you motherfuckers.
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Yeah.
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Trump was like, hey, if you people are doing this, this is an attack on my administration.
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Yeah.
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I mean, well, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And that dissonance has caused a little bit of trouble in the Trump world.
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People are like, why are you saying it's an attack on you to demand disclosure of the Epstein stuff?
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Sure.
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And so Alex is trying to thread that.
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Okay.
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So I've never seen any evidence of Trump doing something like that.
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Plus, do you think Trump it's all about being in control and being the boss?
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Do you think he would go with a bunch of people and screw kids?
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Yes, absolutely.
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100%.
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It just doesn't fit the MO.
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That said, the White House came out and said that Republicans that sign on to this Massey legislation to release it,
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that they are attacking the Trump administration.
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So that is a big deal right there.
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White House just slammed the Massey Epstein discharge petition as a very hostile act to the administration.
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Let's go ahead and play that clip first with some foreshadowing.
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So I'm going to tell you what's going on here.
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We know Bill Gates went to the island a bunch, but it's going to implicate Bill Gates and a bunch of other people, the head of Harvard.
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Trump's had the CIA with the Mossad begging him to not do this.
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He's made deals off this leverage.
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And there are some people close to Trump in his history, not family.
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And I've had this from sources, but don't give me the specifics, that are on the list.
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So Trump thinks it's going to be a horrible distraction to bring down the US economy, really discredit the US.
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And so he's made that decision.
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So in a situation like this, it's really important to think about how much tone changes the point you're making.
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All Alex is doing is describing the reality in front of everyone's faces that Trump is doing some kind of cover up as it relates to Epstein.
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In the past, it would have been an accusation that a politician were hiding the truth about something because it would be too embarrassing for it all to come out.
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But in this case, it's an excuse.
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If we just accept Alex's premise that Trump made a deal with all these deep state folks to cover up the Epstein stuff because it would be too embarrassing and destabilizing for all of it to come out, then what are we supposed to do?
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What cover up couldn't be justified by people in power saying that it would be too embarrassing for all the details to come out?
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Alex isn't saying Trump is covering this up because he thinks it's too embarrassing and fuck that, we need to demand the truth anyway.
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He's covering Trump's position as if it's a good position, effectively arguing that sometimes cover ups are for your own good.
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Yeah.
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I know I harp on this kind of thing a lot, but this dude is gone.
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Like he's lost the entire point of what his character was supposed to be based on because it wasn't sincere to begin with.
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He wasn't grounded in an actual truth.
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And the crises and pressures of the moment are just revealing.
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You know, you're just revealing how naive you are.
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You're not interested in real politic.
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All right.
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Could you say real politic?
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That is I could.
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But you should.
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I probably.
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Sounds cooler.
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It's got a K.
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Maybe a Q?
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If you believe in yourself.
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No, it is.
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It's so funny.
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It's so funny being like, well, I mean, listen, it's just smart.
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You would make the same.
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That's because the implied part of that is you would do it.
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Who wouldn't cover up 9-11?
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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It is the implied part of that tone, which is like we can all understand.
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We've all been in a situation where we've made compromises that maybe didn't make us feel good.
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Now, admittedly, none of those was covering up the fact that you're a pedophile billionaire.
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That'll change things.
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Alex's whole mission and the intro music of his show, the bumpers are like, he gets behind the truth of government corruption and cover ups.
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Right.
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He's making excuses for government corruption and cover ups.
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This isn't the info war.
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It's the info wine, my friend.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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So I think that Alex might realize that Trump, there's some bad information that could come out.
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I mean, how can you not?
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Yeah.
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And I think that he's realizing, like, fuck, there's a lot of people who are not going to accept a lot of these bullshit explanations we have.
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Yeah.
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So I think we're going to have to go with false flag on this one.
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So when Trump says it's going to hurt a lot of innocent people.
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And it's a big mess.
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The stuff in these grand jury files and the stuff in these FBI reports, a lot of it is hearsay, a lot of it is rumor, a lot of it is, you know, we just accept, too.
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Oh, all these women are victims.
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Some have been proven and certified and I believe them overall.
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Do you?
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But you've also got that.
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So this is a can of worms, and I've studied this deeply for decades, just this case.
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The point of hating it.
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Because there's so many other even bigger things out there that people don't even care about when I talk about it, they're just cut and dry, massive.
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But I'm an expert on this.
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And literally, I start just going numb when I try to integrate all the pieces of it.
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Alex is emotionally preparing and trying to get the audience ready to attack Epstein victims.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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That's the long and short of that.
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Without question.
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Sure, he believes them and he believed them for many, many years.
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But guess what? Now they're lying and they're paid for by...
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Yeah.
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Well, no, and he still believes the ones who aren't saying anything about Trump.
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Sure.
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But the ones who are saying things about Trump.
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Well, I mean, can't believe those clearly.
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Can we believe anybody?
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They've been infiltrated, this group of victims.
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Yeah, they probably have been paid by Epstein.
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Right.
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The globalists got to him.
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Yep.
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It's insane.
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It's disgusting.
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And I think it's a sign of what's to come.
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The strategies that he's willing to embrace.
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Yeah.
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Fucked up.
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Yeah, you just got to...
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Because the moment you do something like that,
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and this is what people like this do when they're in the wrong space, right?
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He was like, well, you know, yes, I know what I've been saying,
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but it looks like maybe there are people who are not Trump,
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but people close to Trump, not his family either, but people close to Trump.
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Do you mean Roger?
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There may be those people, which is like you're just opening a little barrier
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somewhat, and that means that it's going to get opened further.
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Yeah.
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And it's worse than whatever, like little glimpse.
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You're trying to do some sort of like, we'll control the bleed.
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I'll give you a little bit of something.
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So you think, yeah, you know what you're talking about.
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I'm not saying you're crazy or anything.
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You've got something to go on.
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I'll give you a little bit, but...
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It's like an info pacifier that he's trying to offer.
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And it's kind of insulting.
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You just made me realize that there is nectar behind you, my friend.
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Yeah.
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And when Alex says in that clip, like, I've followed this story.
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And you hear that tone where he's like, to the point where I started to hate it.
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I hate this story.
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And I think that what that feeling is, is like, he does hate this story.
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Oh, yeah.
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And it's because he's in bed with people who are the villains of it.
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Like, he had a perfect position
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to launch the Satanic panic shit previously in his career.
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His positioning was like, we can attack all these people.
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We're cool.
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Yeah.
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But now his entire, like, professional and political identity is wrapped up in
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a guy who has to cover up.
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I mean, the irony.
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Yeah, I would hate the story too.
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I hate it.
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I would not like to be an example of irony.
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Mm hmm.
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I don't...
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Listen, I...
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You're a goddamn Alanis Morissette song.
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Right?
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Ironic things have happened.
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But I've never been an example where it's like, well, cut and dried.
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This is the definition of irony.
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Measure all ironic things based upon this thing.
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Would it be ironic if Mr.
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Magoo could see the future?
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If he had the second sight?
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No, I think it would be the opposite.
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I think that would just be explanatory.
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Okay.
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Because that would make sense of all the things that would be ironic if he...
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Oh, because that's how he can fumble through life.
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Exactly.
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Because he has already seen...
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Because he's already seen all the...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It turns it into something more poignant, I suppose.
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Yeah.
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So there's other poignant news in the world that doesn't have to do with Alex.
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Alex or Owen or Trump.
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And there's just literally dozens of other huge stories.
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Ilhan Omar's financial disclosure shows
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that in one year she had a 3,500% increase in net worth
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from 6 million to 30 million.
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And of course, she started out in Congress with
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a couple hundred thousand dollars in the bank.
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You mean the daughter from a famous pirate family,
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pirate royalty in Somalia,
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where human slavery and robbery and murder is the country's business
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and they are the commanders of it?
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You mean she might be a criminal?
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Come on now.
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That evil witch
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is absolutely insane.
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So this is a huge story.
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Yeah.
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If you only get your huge stories from things that get passed around
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on dipshit social media.
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Ah, uh-oh.
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Ilhan Omar's net worth increased dramatically between her 2019 disclosure
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and the most recent one, largely because she got married in 2020
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and her husband runs a winery and venture capital firm.
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Theeee.
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I'm not thrilled about the idea of a politician's spouse
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being in the money management field because it's always gonna look
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a little bit suspicious, but that suspicious vibe isn't enough
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to prove that there's actual corruption there.
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Yeah.
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Alex is adding nothing to this story that you wouldn't get
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just from seeing the same tweet that he saw,
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other than the racist bullshit about Omar being pirate royalty.
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Yeah.
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But like, yeah, this is easily explained by she got married.
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That's tough.
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Yeah, her net worth went up because it was a spousal shared...
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I, I, listen, I understand the reality.
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Your net worth went up when you got married.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Well, it went from zero all the way up to more than zero.
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Yeah.
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She owns a thing.
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Exactly.
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Look at all this thing she owns.
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Yeah.
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That's way more than me.
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Yeah.
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No, I understand the reality, but I don't think you're ever
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gonna make someone less cool by saying they're a pirate king.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, yeah, it's tough.
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Pirates are tough.
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No, no, I know.
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I know.
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Intellectually, I know.
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And intellectually, I can see the totality of the picture,
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and I can see where they fit as the puzzle piece.
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Intellectually, all of these things are true.
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But if you say the words pirate king to me, I'm also going
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to see a pirate king.
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And you know the type that I'm talking about, and that's
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gonna be cool.
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You're thinking of, like, swashbuckling and swinging on a
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rope and, you know, like, getting the sail up.
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Tortuga!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The swelling score behind it.
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No masters, no kings.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that the image of pirate like that that comes up
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in your head is great.
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Yeah, of course.
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I think real world pirates are pretty bad.
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I know.
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I think that generally...
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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Even back at the time that the image in your head is harkening
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back to, I think those were pretty bad.
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Like privateers.
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Oh, real bad dudes.
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No good.
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I don't think it was as fun as Johnny Depp makes it look.
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Absolutely.
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Well, you know what?
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I bet being one of the Lost Boys probably wasn't as fun as
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Peter Pan made it look.
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You know what the problem is?
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What?
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There's no magic.
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That does tend to be the problem.
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I do agree with that.
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Pirates of the Caribbean and that kind of stuff is really
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fun because there's magic.
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There is magic.
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They're looking for buried treasure.
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They're not killable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, like, that's not real.
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You got to have magic.
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They were just stealing spices and killing people.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Anyway, okay.
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There's other news.
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Yeah.
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Ice is doing some bad stuff.
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I bet.
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So Alex doesn't want to cover that.
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Okay.
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So we have stuff like that.
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I subtains access Israeli made spyware that can hack phones
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and encrypted apps.
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Job Turkey.
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Jasmine Crockett has adopted a new ghetto voice that compared
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to the others.
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What?
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Never.
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They only have a real voice.
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When she was younger, she sounds like a steppered wife.
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Oh, hello.
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It's almost an English accent.
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I'm Jasmine Crockett.
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Now it's like, Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm Jasmine Crockett.
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Pretty funny.
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That's pretty funny.
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So that was a long pause there.
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You might have noticed.
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Seems like Alex doesn't really want to have a take on the ice
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doing all the police state shit that he's made documentaries
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about. Oh, well.
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I think that that clip is a perfect illustration of what
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Alex's show is right now.
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He's supporting the guys doing the stuff that he's supposed
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to be against, and he can't even deny it anymore.
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So he has to retreat to racist tabloid level shit about
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pretending a black woman's voice is fake.
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Yep.
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Whenever he touches the big issues, Alex reveals himself
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to be a fraud.
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Trump is covering up the Epstein stuff, but it's okay because
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it would be embarrassing if that all came out.
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It'd be rough.
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Ice is spying on people's phones and invading privacy,
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but it's cool because they're only doing it to immigrants.
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Sure.
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Every ideal that he used to pretend to hold up has been
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violated.
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So all that's really left is this surface level racist
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entertainment, and it's pretty hollow.
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Yeah.
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And this obviously was like just an excuse for him to start
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doing some voices.
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So he does some pretty offensive voices for a while.
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You know what?
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Here's what it feels like.
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It feels like we're in They Live, right?
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But you know how in They Live they have the slogans, and then
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you put the glasses on and you can see the actual stuff
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behind it.
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At the very least, they went to the trouble of hiding the
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actual stuff behind it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And now we're living in a world where they're not even bothering
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to do that.
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He might as well just be yelling, consume, consume, consume.
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It's the same.
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Yeah.
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Submit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I mean, okay.
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I guess we're there.
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That's fine.
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Yeah.
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For someone who likes They Live and interviewed Rowdy Roddy
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Piper, like Alex did, you'd think you'd be a little more
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subtle.
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Yeah.
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It's like, take the glasses off.
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But I mean, it's because we don't need them anymore.
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We're just going to say the truth at you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Boo.
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Bummer.
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So Alex talks a bit about how the media is running a bunch
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of disinformation campaigns about the GOP wanting to cover
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up the Epstein stuff.
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Right.
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It's not true.
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That's how they run.
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This disinformation is cherry picking things out short clips
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so that people don't know what's happening.
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And they went, well, that Congresswoman or that Congressman,
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why are they saying, okay, we're not going to release it
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all right now, but we'll release it quickly.
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They just cut there because the victims have asked us to.
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But I go then find the full clip and sit there and watch
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it. I have it for you.
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The problem is if I show you CNN lying and MSNBC line, and
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then I show you that raw clip, it'll take hours.
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And I got a limited crew.
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They've cut us down to nothing.
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But the crew is great.
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That's what we ought to do.
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It's just there's so much.
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It takes hours just to watch it.
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But you all saw it.
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You see it everywhere.
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Oh, look, they don't want to release it.
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Oh, look, cover up.
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I've got the headlines here.
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But when you actually go watch the press conference, the
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women said, hold off.
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We want time to go over this.
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And then they said, we will release the list.
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So they're trying to kind of take control of it.
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Well, how do we know these people haven't been infiltrated?
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How do we know a lot of the stuff we call them victims?
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I'm sure most of them are.
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There's evidence of that.
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But still, Alex has already made it pretty clear that Trump
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is trying to cover up the Epstein stuff, but it's cool.
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So what he's doing now is trying to protect some of the
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GOP folks in Congress that he feels close to, like Marjorie
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Taylor Greene and the off chance that this attempt at disclosure
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isn't going to work.
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Right.
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And there's a likelihood that some of them will kowtow to
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Trump saying, stop it.
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Yep.
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And he'll need to kind of protect them.
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So before this episode, a bunch of Epstein survivors had
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held a press conference along with some members of Congress
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like Greene and Ro Khanna, pushing for the passage of Massey's
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petition to release all the government's files about Epstein.
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Sure.
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It was unambiguous that the goal was releasing everything,
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and it felt a bit like they were personally offended by the
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Department of Justice buddying up with Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Right.
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And Alex saying that they were like, the press conference
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was about like, hey, hold up.
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That's bullshit.
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Yeah.
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He's purporting to have uncovered immediate disinformation
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campaign where they're showing incomplete statements by some
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GOP Congress members in order to make it look like they're
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trying to cover up the Epstein stuff.
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But in the full context, they're just honoring the victims'
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wishes.
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He has the edited clips and the full clips, but it would
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take too long to play them.
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So instead, he's not doing that.
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And if he did, he would clearly demonstrate the point that
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he's making in an indisputable fashion.
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Right.
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There's no time.
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So instead, he's going to spend long stretches of this show
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doing racist accents and complaining about his Achilles tendon.
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Right.
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Like, it makes sense.
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Yeah.
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See, okay.
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So if I have the overwhelming evidence and you know I do,
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then it kind of makes the showing it to you part irrelevant
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because I have it.
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You know I have it.
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So the only thing that we would both get at the end of me
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showing it to you is the same equilibrium we're at right now.
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I would still have it, and you would still know I have it,
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and I'm already right.
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So in that case, I don't really need to show it to you at all, do I?
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It's really a waste of time.
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It is a waste of time.
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So you should just agree that I have it.
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You believe it.
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We'd move on.
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Everybody knows that this woman's voice is blacker!
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All he's doing, like, if you listen to that clip
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and you listen to the tone, all he's doing is trying to create
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preemptive justification to attack these women.
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Yep.
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Like, that's the entire game.
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He's trying to lay that track so it doesn't hit nearly as hard
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when he's forced to do that.
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Yeah.
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And it's disgusting.
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We're in a true crime documentary that has gotten past the point of
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stupidity.
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There are so many true crime documentaries where you're like,
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oh, could it be this?
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Could it be that?
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Could it be this?
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And then there's maybe an ambiguous ending, or maybe there's like,
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we're clearly pointing towards one ending, or we're clearly,
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we have our point of view on this.
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Eventually, if you're in a true crime documentary and you're like,
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that guy did it, that's the end of the document.
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There can be no more evidence to show.
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No, that guy did it.
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We're all there.
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He did it!
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Did something.
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He did!
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Yeah.
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So somebody else did something.
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Owen Troyer.
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He left.
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Yes, he did.
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And Alex, you know, he's upset still.
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Yeah.
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The day before this, he was screaming on all three shows on Infowars about how he's a snake.
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This guy's a fucking piece of shit.
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He's a liar.
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Yeah.
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And the tone is, you know, a lot of the feelings are still there,
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but Alex is a little mopier now, and he's just kind of sad that Owen was mean to him.
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And when we start the next hour, I'm going to do an update on Owen Troyer and why I got so mad,
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because it's personal.
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And when I watched a lot of his five plus hour show he did Monday afternoon evening.
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Still not all of it.
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Yeah, I could see the plotting in it.
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I could see what he was attempting to do.
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And of course it was successful.
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And I've got all the dozens of headlines.
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I fired him.
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I'm a censor.
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All this stuff.
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None of it true, but that's how he did it.
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At least five times he said, I haven't had a raise since 2018.
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He would see, he would look down on his notes and go, well, let me check that.
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And he looked down on his notes and say these things.
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Well, I know Alex doesn't like me criticizing Trump because he'll lose access at the White House.
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But he never said I said that.
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Don't lose access.
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I don't even need access to the White House.
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I create the talking points in research.
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I'm the dog.
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That's the tail.
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So are you.
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You're the dog.
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It's the tail.
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The more I bitch about Trump, the more they call up.
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It doesn't work like that.
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This isn't about access to, you know, sitting as a parent higher up in the tree.
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This is about truth.
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And so that's why I got so mad.
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Was he called me up on the holiday and said, you know, I'm quitting.
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It was very rude and very, you know, very well, if you're desperate, pay me more, I'll stay.
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And he said, well, I guess I'll do you a favor and stay another week.
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And I said, no, that's all right.
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Owen, have a nice day.
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You really hurt my feelings.
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We'll take care of it.
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And then he spun that that, well, I've been kicked out.
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Oh, I see.
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I was censored.
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You know, it's just it's disgusting.
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And it's a PR deal.
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And it hurts me because our integrity is everything.
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And the Holy Grail is to claim that Alex Jones is a bad guy.
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And then I learned a lot more.
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The crew never told me about Owen and how he's been behaving the last few years.
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And it was shocking.
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So I'm going to reveal it all coming up when we start the next hour.
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This feels so weak.
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Alex should just never talk about Owen on air again, because this is this should be beneath him.
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He's supposed to be fighting the literal devil.
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He can't be taking precious time out of the show to whine about how an ex employee was mean to him on the phone.
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Yeah, this is so dumb.
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He was very rude on the holiday, Dan.
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And Alex loves Labor Day.
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He does.
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He supports workers rights.
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Many, many thousands of people died to bring you the five day news.
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And now we're just going to what?
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Allow somebody to be rude to their boss?
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I mean, it's not even a boss thing.
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It's my friend.
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He was rude to me.
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He's my friend.
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And I just feel hurt.
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This is this is awful.
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Also, I would say that if the more you bitch about Trump, the more they contact you, you might be being handled.
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Yeah, like maybe they feel the need to talk you down.
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It sort of, hey, let's soften the edge on this guy.
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Yeah.
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Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
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Maybe I would take a different message than Alex seems to be taking.
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Which suggests they think they can talk you down, which suggests you are talk downable,
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which means that what you have to say isn't really that important.
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Yeah.
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And I think that if past is prelude, then yeah, they have every reason to think that.
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Yep, yep, yep, yep.
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You're just saying that it's cool to blow up boats now.
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You're covering up Epstein.
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Yeah.
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Lost it.
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Anyway, Alex comes back.
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He does not immediately get to Owen because there's some breaking news out of Florida.
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All right.
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All right.
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News just broke out of Florida.
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That is spectacularly positive for Team Humanity and Mahan stopping Big Pharma.
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And it dovetails with the historically amazing and positive and valiant activities of RFK Junior
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and the huge successes dismantling Bill Gates's control of our medical system
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in just the last few months that's been crescendoing last week and this week.
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And that is not getting a lot of attention.
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You just hear, oh, controversy, fights, wars, people walking out.
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Kennedy's going to kill everybody.
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Kennedy's weaponized medicine.
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No, he's stopping the weaponization of it.
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It's just fabulously good news.
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Well, something just happened in Florida that is a game changer.
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Wait till you hear this.
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This is such good news.
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Now let me just stop.
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Hammer time.
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I want to apologize to the listeners and our radio stations and TV stations and everybody
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for the way I behaved yesterday.
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Yo, I was apologizing.
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Yeah.
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I don't know why you should apologize for yelling on it.
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It's the only thing that is interesting.
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You should be apologizing for not going harder.
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Yeah, he really should.
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Ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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So the Surgeon General of Florida, Joseph Laudapo, made a big announcement that Florida
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was going to be the first state to make vaccines entirely voluntary.
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Vaccines are already basically voluntary.
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What he was saying was the state wasn't going to allow institutions like schools to require
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vaccination for people to attend.
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Right, right, right.
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That was fun and all the anti-vax folks got all pumped up about it.
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But the rule change that he was talking about only included a couple of vaccines like chicken
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pox, meningitis, and hepatitis B.
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Other vaccines for like polio and tetanus, they would still be required.
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So this was kind of a hollow victory for these anti-vax folks.
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Children are going to be severely hurt by this and public health in general will erode,
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possibly undoing miracles that we've been able to achieve with vaccine science.
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And on top of that, these people are ultimately no closer to this fantasy goal they have of
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health freedom.
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It's just, it's awful.
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Just make up a vaccine and say that you've banned it.
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You don't even need to ban real ones.
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They don't care or know or understand what's happening.
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Right.
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Just start complaining about like LRNA.
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Like a completely new kind of vaccine and then ban it.
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Give fake victories for these dipshits.
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Yep.
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And then move on.
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Yeah.
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It's tough.
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It's tough.
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The implications of, you know, the eroding of vaccine coverage on not just children,
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but also on people who are immunocompromised.
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You know, like it's a real fuck you to a lot of people.
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Yeah.
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And you can't ban requiring vaccines in Florida and not have it affect every other state.
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I mean.
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It's ridiculous.
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The implications, like you can't, state lines don't matter in terms of public health.
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No, eventually we have to build a wall.
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I don't think that would help.
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I think it's time to build a wall around Florida.
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So Alex apologized for his behavior.
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Yeah.
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Screaming about Owen.
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Right.
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And the reality is he's just been holding his tongue for so long.
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Yes, of course he has.
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And I'm not going to cuss talking about it today.
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It's just that I've bit my tongue about Owen Schroyer the last two plus years.
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And put up with a lot of arrogance and a lot of rudeness.
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And not even the crew says hi to him, won't even say hi to him almost every day.
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And I try to talk to him.
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He just looked me up and down like I'm a pile of crap.
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And that's only about 90% of the time now.
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Sometimes these old old for a minute and funny and says a joke.
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But you feel like it's all just a manipulation.
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So I told crew, you know, I told Dew and others the last couple of years,
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I said he wants me to fire him because he wants that Streisand effect.
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So I'm not sure if Alex realizes it, but this makes him sound a lot worse.
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Yeah.
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What he's describing is a situation where he knew that Owen was a liar, an antisocial
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prick and a manipulator who was trying to get fired so he could use that victimhood against Alex.
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It's one thing to discover this side of a person after the fact,
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but Alex is saying that he's been biting his tongue about Owen for two years.
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And that's some childish shit.
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Alex was the boss.
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And if he's biting his tongue and passive-aggressively refusing to fire someone,
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then he's running a horrible workplace.
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Alex is supposed to have been biting his tongue to not say bad things about Owen,
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but at the same time he was giving him raises and Owen was hosting Alex's show a bunch.
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Owen was the second in command at Infowars and he had the coveted post-Alex time slot.
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If Alex had these negative feelings about Owen, particularly that he was a liar and a manipulator,
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then he should not have been comfortable allowing him to continue being on air.
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It seems like it's irresponsible to the audience,
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who are supposed to be helping you fight the literal devil, to expose them to him.
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Now that things have gone the way they have, Alex is trying to save face,
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and the best way he can think to do that is to paint Owen as a bad guy.
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That's fine, and I'm sure Owen sucks,
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but Alex doesn't realize that any attack he tries to throw at Owen reflects poorly on him.
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You can't say someone should have fired him long ago when you're the only person who didn't fire
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him. At a certain point, it's on you. You did this. If you're mad about this for two years,
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this is you, man.
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It's narcissistic psychopaths,
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sometimes reveal by virtue of, here's how I'm going to manipulate you into thinking that I'm
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a good guy, that they don't understand what makes a good guy. Like, oh, see, I'm the good guy.
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I'm the guy who's giving this guy a job. I'm the hero. I'm forcing this guy to work for me for two
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years, even though he wants to quit and I know it. I've not created some weird psycho drama that
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makes every single day miserable. No, I'm the good guy.
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The mission is so singularly to create an explanation where you come out looking good,
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that you don't realize that the side implications of whatever excuse you're going to come up with
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make you look terrible. And I think that he's trapped in that. And I don't know if there's
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a way out, honestly. No, he's a bad guy.
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I think it's just inevitable. You just got to own up to it.
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Yeah. So Owen, he quit back when The Onion bought Info Wars.
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Right. Right.
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Then he castanza'd it. He just decided to show back up.
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Show up, see what happens.
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And that's not good.
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He quit whenever Bloomberg said the Onion had bought us and just said, I'm done. And then as
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soon as we didn't get shut down, he was right back and we never really talked about it. He was just
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here. And it seemed to only piss him off even more. And then the crew pointed this out that
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on his ex-account and places like that, he would mainly promote his show a little bit,
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but never anything else we did. He was ashamed of Info Wars. He didn't like it.
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And then the more negative he got, the listeners and viewers noticed it.
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And the darker he got, we got constant, you know, complaints like, hey,
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Owen's not the same Owen. Is he okay? What's going on? I just ignored it because I plan with
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the new owners that are coming in regardless of what happens in Info Wars, they go 20 hours a day.
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And I'm willing to keep Owen there.
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In that clip, Alex is confessing to two giant managerial errors that he made that kind of
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help illustrate how things could have gone the way they did. The first thing is that Owen quit
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when The Onion bought Info Wars. And then when the sale fell through, he just showed back as if
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nothing happened and they never talked about it. If Alex wants to play the role of a forgiving,
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understanding boss, it's conceivable that he could have given Owen his job back.
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That kind of thing happens sometimes when a person quits in a fit of passion and they want to take it
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back. And then the, you know, the boss is like, all right, it is what it is. It's unacceptable
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management to not talk about it. If you're my boss and I quit, then show back up and act like
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nothing happened and you roll with it. I have no respect for you at all. I've received the message
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that you are so conflict avoidant that I can get away with anything at work and you're not going
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to do shit about it. I run you now and good luck getting me to do anything. Why would I listen to
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you? Yeah. Why? You have shown that you are so averse to the idea of being responsible
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and professional that like, you didn't even give me a, Hey man, like, Hey man, like nothing. We just
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didn't talk about it at all. Like this is just a thing that happened. Like you just showed up
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and you didn't get a Owen. What the fuck? None of that. The impulse to quit when the onion bought it
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totally understandable on Owen's part. The impulse to want to take it back totally understandable.
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Practically the same thing that the whole company did. The impulse on Alex's part to be like,
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I need you. Sure. Stick around. It makes total sense. You bet. You got to talk about it. You
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have to have a meeting where you're like, Hey, you quit. I'm we're going to just pretend that didn't
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happen. Boundaries. Yeah. You have to rebuild those boundaries. We have to set these boundaries.
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These are the boundaries. You have crossed this boundary and I have chosen to forgive that. Yeah.
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But these are the boundaries. Yeah. That's otherwise there are no boundaries in which case
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I'm fucked. Yeah. And when you don't have that conversation as a manager, you're
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sending a clear message that like, it's up to you, man. Do whatever you want. Figure it out.
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Yeah. The second thing that is happening here in this clip is that listeners were bombarding
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info Wars with messages of concern about Owen getting really dark and how they were worried
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about him. And Alex's instinct was to ignore it because he was going to need Owen to fill more
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time. Once the new backers start giving him more money, right? Alex, isn't responding to this
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criticism and feedback as a competent manager, where he would see this as an indication that
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Owen's dissatisfaction with his job was becoming very obvious to the audience. And maybe this job
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wasn't a good fit for him. Instead, Alex heard this feedback as the listeners, like they were
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asking him to censor Owen and he made a courageous choice by not doing that. And instead what he's
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doing is just emotionally checking out of any responsibility to be a leader. It's just bullshit.
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I needed hours to fill. Yeah. He's a body. He's there.
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Listen, I think Owen might be self-harming. I ignored that because I needed hours to fill and
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maybe I would need more from him later. Oh, okay. Sounds shitty. That sounds like you're the good
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guy in this. Yeah. One of the things that I think is really interesting about the whole Owen saga
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is the insights that it's provided to how Alex thinks workplaces should run. Yeah. Like what he
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appears to be presiding over is like a madhouse with an idiot in charge that no one could possibly
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respect as like, yeah, he has outbursts and like, you're probably scared of him, but like,
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you're not scared of him in the way that you fear a respectable boss. Like someone who demands the
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best of you and yeah, like, no, he might hit you. That's probably what you're afraid of.
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Yeah. No, more likely you're afraid in the generalized sense of like, this is somebody
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who I'm always flinching around as opposed to like, oh, if I don't get this clip right,
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then I'm going to be in trouble or my job is on the line or something is important. You're like,
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oh, I'll get yelled at, which is like, eh, not my first yell. Yeah. He's an angry, abusive dad as
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opposed to a dad who's building up and supporting and providing a good example for the people under
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him where they can thrive. Right. And that's, that's his fault. Yeah. I mean, the info war is
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people who work at info wars fighting each other and being terrorized by Alex's emotions. Yeah.
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So look, man, the problem was that Owen was arrogant, like Kamala Harris. Wait, what? Yeah,
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he was that Eric. Okay. The arrogance. I mean, like, I've seen few people that can put on
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arrogance like this. I mean, it's like Kamala Harris when you see how she's got that or Obama.
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And he didn't used to be like this for about two years ago. Obama walks by and just looks at the
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crew. Looks at you. Oh, he'll go and just put his nose up. So everybody's like, man, what's his
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problem? And I'm like, he's going to quit. He wants to be fired. He's got a chip on his shoulder.
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I don't know what his problem is. Don't give him what he wants.
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Cause I'm busy. He's too busy. Alex is too busy. Okay. All right. So the second in command at my
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media company wants to quit. Well, let's say at least like the second in command in terms of like
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public facing. Okay. All right. Cause Rob do is probably quote unquote, second talent. Yeah. All
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right. Wants to quit two years ago. All right. Don't give him what he wants.
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That's your response. Don't give him what he wants. I'm busy.
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Let's ride this out for two years. What does that even mean from a, from a like
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managing strategy standpoint of like, okay, so if somebody wants something, I'm going to torture
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them for two years by not speaking about how I know they want it and how they know that they
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want it, but I'm not giving it to them somehow, even though it's all within their hands. Yeah.
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You know, the thing that I'm taking away from it really is that no one has tried to infiltrate
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info wars as an employee. No. Um, and been unsuccessful because of anything other than luck.
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Like bad luck. Maybe you just didn't get hired or whatever, but like you could,
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you could subterfuge this pretty easily. Absolutely. As long as you just played emotional
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games along with the people who were fucking with you. I think that might be, I think that
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might be their ultimate defense against it is that it would bore you. You'd be like, I've sabotaged
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it. Oh, it's the same. It's the same. It's the exact same. I mean, like, I think that someone
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could like, they, they appear like very vulnerable to someone coming in and taking information,
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right. Right. Right. In terms of sinking the ship by being a, like a dysfunctional cog in the
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machine. I think that they're, they're safe. Ship has sailed. They are functional dysfunctional.
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And that's, this is the kind of thing that ends up happening from that. You have these Owen
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situations. It is a little bit like, like, you know how, what they're doing now, one of the only
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useful things they're doing with AI is like, imagine things from a point of view that just
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only a machine could imagine in terms of like, no preconceptions, like what if you built a
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car out of, you know, all that stuff. And it would find mathematical solutions that you would never
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consider yourself. Right. It is like Info Wars is imagine the least capable, but still functional
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machine that you possibly can. Right. And it's just a bunch of garbage, just like a caterpillar,
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square, square, square, square, just moving along. But it works. It moves. Somehow it sells pills.
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Somehow it does it. So in Owen's video, Alex was watching it and he's like, I know this motherfucker
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is insinuating shit, but he's also hiding behind like denials. So, you know, saying like, I'm not
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saying that Alex censored me. Right. And that pisses Alex off. Of course. Oh, and he was like,
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yeah, I got why he was mad. You know, that was Chris. I was Trump. He was losing his White House
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access. None of that happened. I never had that conversation, but it was all just like,
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I kind of got why. And I'm like, he knows that's all going to be taken as censorship,
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but that he can deny it. And then every hour after he'd said he was being censored and all this stuff,
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he would then say, oh, no, I wasn't censored, but he knows how the internet works. And they're
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going to pick that up and say that because if you want to attack somebody with total integrity,
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like I have, that's the Holy grill to finally catch Alex Jones and censoring to finally catch
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Alex Jones and, you know, working for Israel to finally catch Alex Jones, you know, covering up
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for Trump. And so I done done that. And it was very, very painful. That does sound painful.
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So this was something that particularly pissed Alex off, because if you accept that Owen was
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willing to insinuate some horrible things about Alex, but he's crafty enough to make sure that
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he's always doing it in ways that he can deny later, if he gets in trouble, it might make you
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start to ask where he learned those kinds of skills. You start thinking about that too much,
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and you might start to realize that that's how Info Wars does the news. I'm not sure what was
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in Owen's mind. And I'm willing to believe that he thought he was being more generous and gracious
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than he actually was. But Alex is totally right descriptively about what Owen was doing.
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He was saying the literal words, Alex didn't censor me and then describing situations that
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clearly indicate censorship, which looks like someone making an accusation and then trying
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to cover their ass. The problem for Alex is that that is a hard strategy to counter.
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If you totally blow up on him, it looks like an overreaction. If you don't do anything,
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it could feel like you're taking these insinuations lying down and that you're weak.
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There's no easy solution, but Alex's choice of path is a bad one. It makes it look like he
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knowingly employed a manipulative sociopath for years at his media company as the host of his own
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show because he didn't want to give him what he wanted by firing him. And that looks bad.
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That looks insane.
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It looks worse than overreacting to the criticism. It looks worse than looking weak by not responding.
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It looks like someone who's...
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But also you have to ask yourself the question of, you're saying that you are not firing him,
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but allowing him to do whatever he wants because that's what he doesn't want you to do?
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Right.
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But he is also manipulative, meaning that he is convincing you to do things by making them
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think that they're your idea. Can we put these together in some form or fashion?
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Well, I think that Alex gaslights his audience a lot by making clear statements and then trying to
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have his cake and eat it too. Like trying to have plausible deniability with enough,
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like I was attacked by a demon, blah, blah, blah, or whatever.
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Of course.
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Well, I don't say that literally or whatever.
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Politically.
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I think, yeah, he does that enough that he sees that behavior in Owen and he is feels
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gaslit by his own strategies.
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Correctly.
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Yeah.
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Yes. He correctly feels gaslit.
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Right. And so his response to that is completely understandable.
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Yeah.
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But calling out what Owen's doing, it's pretty risky in terms of like,
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you're aware of this strategy Alex.
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At the end of the day, all he's really saying is, but you're not supposed to do it to me.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So look, Alex, he's a victim. He put up with Owen for so fucking long, man.
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So long.
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He's just been on because he, because he wanted to psychologically torture
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Owen by not giving him what he wanted. That's why he put up with Owen for so long.
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It's one way to put it.
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Yeah.
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He's like, Oh, I had a great time. Great ride. I love him for wars. Yeah. You just came and
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attacked the leader of it. Who's under total attack with Bloomberg and the Democrats trying
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to shut us down and this crew that works here that stuck through all this. When you cut and run
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in November and then came slinking back.
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I knew you couldn't even emotionally have a conversation about it. So I just was like,
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okay, well, when you're back, I got to do network, raise money. I'm off the air.
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Not a call, not worried about us. Not what he can do. Not speaking out about how they
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did this to us. No, just I'm over here. I'm over here. I don't care. They came in with a
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fake auction, did all this. And then when they tried to send in the armed deputies, all of it,
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he didn't want anything to do with it because he's not in the info war.
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So we held our nose out of loyalty and put up with him. I don't think that Alex realizes how
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much this makes him sound really bad. If Owen was a piece of shit who wasn't in the info war
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for the past year or more than Alex and everyone at the company has been lying to the audience.
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Putting up with Owen isn't just putting up with an annoying employee. You're supposed to be fighting
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the devil. And if he's an asshole, who's not in the war, then you're not committed to the fight
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either. Putting up with him like this. And again, Alex is painting himself as the world's worst
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boss. He knew his employee wasn't emotionally capable of discussing the fact that he'd quit
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and then just showed back up for work. So his solution was to act like nothing happened.
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That's revealing that Alex is also emotionally incapable of having whatever conversation was
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necessary at that point. And he's the boss. Or maybe he's the only one who is emotionally
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incapable of having that conversation. No, no, I know they're both terrible.
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It's his job to set boundaries and enforce them. So this one is his responsibility because of the
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dynamic of worker, employee, employer. Like that is a clear cut instance where Alex dropped the
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ball. If someone quits and comes back and you accept not talking about it. Nope. I, I, I,
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for me, it's just so funny because it's like, I can't even imagine. I can't imagine working there
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and being somebody who watches them come in and not being like, you quit your lunatic. What are
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you up to? Like, I would be interested to know, like, let's have it out right now. Let's, what
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are you doing? I imagine other employees probably did. I imagine some people who aren't Alex chopped
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the shit up with him and went out for a drink and talked about it. I imagine there's a lot of stuff
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that Alex isn't privy to, but yeah, he, as, as a boss, that's a failure. Crazy. This clip also
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really sounds bad because he's saying that he put up with Owen out of loyalty for a long time,
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but now he's unloading. This should make it clear to the audience that Alex is capable of that.
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And maybe you're not going to get the whole story about someone if he's invested in presenting them
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in a positive light. It's essentially Alex saying that he's willing to lie, at least lie by omission.
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And he's not supposed to be that guy. This is a contradiction of the character.
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It is impossible for all of these things to make sense if this employee is communicating with
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other people who are your customers or whatever you like. Your listeners, your watchers, right?
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For him to be doing this to them reveals any of this stuff that you think makes you a good boss
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to be actively harmful to the audience. So by virtue of you saying like, see, I'm a good guy,
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you're also admitting, look at how I allowed this guy to abuse you for two years, the same way I
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allowed him to abuse me. Yeah. My negligence allowed somebody who was full of shit and
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probably a manipulator to host a show that I promoted heavily on my network for two years.
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And I presented as the vanguard of the fight against the devil. I allowed that person to,
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you know, make a connection with you. To manipulate you in some similar ways.
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Yep. And I used religion to do that. And you should think I'm the good guy here.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because no one sucks. Because no one sucks.
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But the problem, one of the problems, there's a lot of problems.
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Wow. But one of them is that the media is going to hear what Owen says.
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Yeah. And then they're going to respond to it. And they're going to cover his story
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in a way that hurts Alex. The fucking media. And Alex has a perfect example of this.
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Okay. And so he thinks he's manipulating us. I don't manipulate. I just straight shoot. That's
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my superpower. But that's why I got so mad. And folks, I can show you hundreds of these. I mean,
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here's just a few. Overhead shot, please. This is salty cracker. Nice guy. Liking.
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I'm sorry? Salty cracker?
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Alex Jones fires Owen Schroyer in ugly breakup over Donald Trump.
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Massive lawsuit and plead in force, whatever that means. So I fired Owen. Did you know that?
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But that's how he implied it because he's like, if you really need me, I'll come in for the week.
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I'm like, no, man, that's that's okay. You go on. Oh, my gosh. I just wanted to shake his hand
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after I sat there and talk to him like, you know, like he was a piece of crap with a very,
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yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm not coming back. I was like, whoa, is this a real loan? Sure.
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I was sitting there going, man, is this plus? It's like he's even possessed. It was just,
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oh, man. Salty cracker tweeted something. Can't believe salty cracker would say that.
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You believe it? Salty cracker has been close to me for a long time.
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And when I think about like media critics who see through the bullshit,
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people who aren't going to buy the spin, they're going to tell they're going to heat.
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I would expect someone of salty crackers level of talent to see that Owen video and be able to,
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you know, like cut through the fog. Yeah. And he even said, Owen got fired.
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I was even misled. I'm just waiting for the Washington post to reveal their new ombudsmen
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salty cracker. Cause somebody's got to keep this paper in line and keep them honest. And only my
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man, salty cracker can handle that. Salty cracker dies in darkness or something.
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Or something like that. If I were, if I were salty cracker, here's what I would, I kind of know who
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he is. I've heard the name before in the same way that I kind of know who cat turd is, but like,
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but it's also kind of feels a little racist because salty cracker. But the, if I were him,
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here's what I would do. I'd have a show where I'm like ranting and I'm salty.
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Right. Right. But is that what his name is supposed to be?
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I think so. Oh, okay.
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But then I would do a show where I'm talking about things I like and it's unsalted.
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Right. Right. Right. Right.
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That's what I would do.
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Right. Sodium free.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I like that.
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You got high blood pressure. This is the unsalted cracker.
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Yeah.
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Let's talk about jazz.
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So, so his name is supposed to be a play on words in so far as it's a salty cracker,
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something that you enjoy to eat.
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A white guy who's a little cranky.
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As well as a white guy who's cranky.
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Yeah. That's the sense that I get.
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Right.
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Maybe I misread the whole thing, but that was how I've always understood his name.
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It makes sense. I think what happened for me was like, once gamer tags became
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socially acceptable as like a subculture kind of thing, then kind of all bets are off.
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Yeah.
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You know, like, I guess that guy can call himself that and I have to take him seriously.
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But at the same time, that guy's called salty cracker. Do I have to take everybody seriously?
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Yeah. The first time someone tricked like the news into saying,
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a fart dick 420 or whatever. Very funny.
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Great. That was awesome.
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Then it's off a cliff from there.
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It's been downhill ever since. Yeah.
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I'm not impressed by, by salty cracker.
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Just go by. Pick a name that's not also a dinner item.
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But, but he, he got tricked into, you know, following Owen's dumb script.
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What you going to do?
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And look, the issue again, there's a lot of issues, but one of the issues is
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won't you think of the crew?
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I've been thinking of the crew nonstop this entire time.
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And it feels like they have been underrepresented.
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They are the real victims in this along with Alex.
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Yeah.
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Won't you think about them?
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How, how Owen is treating them? Like not human.
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I will.
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But what about the crew?
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What about the crew?
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Who never talk crap about him. So then I talked to the crew yesterday and they just said, no,
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Owen used to be a funny, nice guy. It's about three years ago. So we're getting bad. And now
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cynical, hateful, won't talk to us, looks us up and down like we're piles of crap.
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Exactly what you've seen.
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So see to Owen, all these people that literally
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backed him and worked so hard for him and committed to him and loved him.
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They aren't even people to him.
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Rob Aguero, Scott, all of them. They're not even people to him.
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And that's why I got mad.
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And I felt like I have to warn people that in my view, this is a bad person,
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a selfish person. And they're like, you don't know how OCD is. You don't know.
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He has to have everything exact. And his whole life is scripted every minute where he goes,
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what he does is all booked out. I was like, well, God, how do you ever work here?
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So then I think, oh, maybe it's that like some type of spectrum. I'm not diagnosing. I'm just
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saying maybe he is just autistic. I don't know. But I know this, buddy. I'm a real person.
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And you don't get to treat us like that. So you had your little scripted, schemed up thing.
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You wanted to get me pissed off. You got it now. You got exactly what you're looking for.
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So these headlines, did you know I fired Owen? That's what he scripted it with little provisos.
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I just wanted to be there and he threw me out. Ab you quit.
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Again, Alex is revealing his incompetence as a manager here. If we believe the things Alex is
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saying, then we have to accept that he was so out of touch with his staff that Owen's been being a
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dick to them for three years and he never noticed. There was a complete breakdown of workplace
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harmony and it didn't come up as a problem that could be addressed. This would lead you to suspect
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that no one feels safe coming to Alex and bringing up workplace complaints or they just
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know that he's not going to do anything. It's all shitty leadership. These are indications of no one
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being in charge. Further, Alex is revealing how little he ever cared about Owen. I'm going to
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ignore the labels that Alex is throwing around, but if Owen was a rigid planner and followed a
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tight schedule, that's something you'd expect Alex to notice in the 10 years that they knew each
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other. Clearly this is something that the crew picked up on, so it seems strange that Alex,
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who's repeatedly said that he and Owen were good friends, would be this oblivious. Beyond that,
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this is a classic abuser tactic where you're trying to weaponize other people against your
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target. Alex would feel too vulnerable making his feelings just about how hurt he is, so he needs to
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pretend to be hurt on someone else's behalf and use them against... Once again, he's the good guy
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in this. We're not just now finding out that he's spoken to the crew about Owen for the first time
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in multiple years. But also Alex noticed this for the last two years and he's been biting his tongue.
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Right. Yeah, fuck this. This is ridiculous. Come on. So one of Owen's main complaints was that,
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you know, Alex texts him stories and hangs over, stands over his back and like tries to control
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the content. Sure. But like Alex texts everyone these stories. That's true. And I never censored him.
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Oh, he was hanging over me. You mean sending you articles? I was told in the last few months
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he would get enraged if I texted him news articles. That's all I do everywhere to people.
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Hell, you see Joe Rogan talking about, we exchanged probably 10 texts a day of stuff we
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send each other. I mean, I exchanged texts with Anna Paulina, Luma and MTG and,
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you know, a bunch of other people in the White House. Do they go like, Alex just sent me
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a link to a video. He's trying to control me. I'm going to hurt my boo boo butt.
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Hmm. I mean, so that's what he did. I watched him go look all sad. I'm so sad. I think if I were
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working there, I probably would take this and be like, hmm, he might do this if I quit. You know,
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I don't think that this would be inspiring rally around the boss kind of behavior. No, no, I don't.
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I think that I'd feel unsafe as an employee. This would be the moment where it goes from like,
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this is where it turns into personal responsibility. You know, up until this
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point, you can say whatever you want or about how you expected Alex to behave in any form or
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fashion. At this point in time, anything that you allow to happen from here on out, that's totally
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on you. You should quit right now. Everybody should leave right now. Everybody should quit
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right now. And anything that happens after you listen to this shit is on you, man. Well,
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at very least the risks are clear of what is coming. You're making an affirmative choice
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to be there. Yeah. And this kind of thing where he's like, hey, you know,
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Rogan doesn't get mad that I text him all this stuff. Does Rogan work for you?
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Like, do you think that your relationships are all the same? I think because they're not.
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Oh boy. Funny how that works. So, we wrap up this Owen talk with Alex declaring that he never wants
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to see Owen's face ever again. Well, yeah. But also he's going to be watching him very close.
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That sounds right. I'm glad he's gone. And I hope I never have to put my eyes on him again in person
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because I was a really funny, nice person. He was a different person
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and it's painful to me. It's not that I don't ever want to lay eyes on him because I hate him.
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I mean, I actually got tears in my eyes when he talked to me like a gangster and a pimp.
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And I immediately knew he was, you know, trying to muscle me and slap me around.
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And I was very nice and I'm just going to be nice to him. But not now. No, Owen, not now.
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And every time you say something wrong and I see it every time you tell another lie,
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I'm going to come after you, buddy. Because you're a bad man in my view. You're a big, bad wolf.
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Guess what? I'm the sheep dog. Right music choice for this. You asked for a fight.
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You got one now. Understand that? Good. I hope you do. Call him a man eater. Yeah. Come on.
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Or call yourself a man eater. I mean, one of the two. It's there. Jesus. It is there.
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Freshman. Handbiter. Frustrating handbiter. Handbiting is the first step of eating man.
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It's the very first step. But before you can climb a mountain, you must first eat a single
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hand. Yes. We all know this. That's the Zen poem. The very strange sect of Zen Buddhists
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that were also cannibals. It was a real weird one. Some of those temples get disconnected from
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trade routes or something. So I think that this is about where I'm no longer all that interested
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in Owen and Alex. I think that it was really fun and the drama was exciting. But this has
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petered out. And unless Owen does something really interesting, I can't imagine caring anymore.
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Boy, they both really seem to have fucked this up by being a combination of bad at what they
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actually do and also just genuinely uninteresting. Yeah. And I think that they also probably both
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know that the other knows some shit. Probably. I think that they both have good reason to not nuke
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each other. Right. We're mad at each other. Yeah. But we're not going where we need to go. It's
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real bad. And we were probably never going to talk. For sure. But we're not going to go below
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the belt. Funnily enough, as Alex has pointed out about the globalist many a time, is that if
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you're both complicit in something, oftentimes that means it's off the table should you argue
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about things later. So I feel like maybe we might be in this kind of situation. Yeah. I think that
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what I said on the last episode about Alex seeming to believe that Owen doesn't have any concrete
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proof of anything, I think that might be true. But it makes me think that he's had private
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conversations with him about how this is all bullshit or something like that. And Owen knows
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that and could talk about it. Maybe one that happened a couple of years ago at the beginning
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of Owen's change. Yeah. When Alex sobered up. So Alex moves on and he is an emergency surprise
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guest on the show. And that is his gold sponsor. Oh my God. Kirk Elliott. Hey buddy. So Kirk is,
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he's around. He wants to, obviously it's just like, let's talk about how great gold and silver
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are and how you should buy it for me. Right. But they also get into tariffs. Right. And this is
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with the stupid, stupid court system and judicial activism. So Trump's reciprocal tariffs, you know,
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not the, not the sectional tariffs that he put on copper and aluminum and things like that.
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We're talking about the across the board reciprocal tariffs where Trump said,
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hey, other countries around the world, if you've got tariffs on us, we're going to give you a
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tariff back. Right. He's within his authority and power to do so. But the federal courts on Friday
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struck that down as being illegal. And it's like, how could it be illegal? The president can slap
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a tariff on anybody if he wants to, and especially countries that have a tariff on us. There's
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nothing wrong with that. So the courts ruled that Trump's actions in terms of placing huge
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tariffs on trading partners was outside of his power and that the tariffs were illegal. Yeah.
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Because of these rulings, Trump's treasury secretary, Scott Besant, estimated that refunds
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the government would need to give importers could be between 750 billion to $1 trillion.
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That's money that would be being paid back to companies, not consumers who ended up carrying
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a lot of the burden of many of these tariffs as companies just passed on the prices down to
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customers. The courts rejected Trump's argument that he had authority under the International
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Emergency Economic Powers Act to justify his tariffs on anybody he wants whenever he wants.
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They said that the law required that there be quote unusual or extraordinary threats and that
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this standard was not met. Yeah, obviously. Naturally, Trump has appealed this to the
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Supreme Court and he wants them to get to the case fast. If they stall, the government might
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have to start paying back these tariffs in the meantime, and that would be a huge problem.
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Yeah. If Trump has to pay back a trillion dollars, then the whole declaring the launch of the
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tariffs liberation day could end up becoming his version of Bush's mission accomplished.
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Yeah. And that looks really bad.
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Well. So they don't want that to happen.
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Probably not. It's a good thing that they have control of the Supreme Court.
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Yeah. I'm not super optimistic that the Supreme Court isn't going to side with.
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I think Amy Coney Barrett's going to step up to this one. I think it's time for her to really
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show her true colors. She may. Who knows?
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Yeah, it's possible. I will say that Kirk is a little bit worried that the Supreme Court might
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rule that these things are illegal.
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If they decide that these tariffs, for whatever reason, are illegal.
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Probably the law.
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This this is going to be ugly for the economy. Now, I'm not saying that they're going to say
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that they're going to be illegal. I'm just saying there's a chance because the Supreme Court's
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been squirrelly lately. Right. So so if they say it's illegal, this is the main mechanism for Trump
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to make America great again, to have other countries pay our taxes so he can actually
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have policies that say if you make under two hundred thousand dollars a year, we want to
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eliminate your taxes, to actually reduce our tax rates, to be able to hopefully reduce the amount
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of printing because other countries are foot in the bill. Why should other countries pay our taxes?
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What does that even mean? I mean, at the point where you're saying that you're not even really
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talking about taxes anymore. You're just saying that we deserve to live at the expense of people
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in other countries. Yeah. This is all such fraudulent argumentation, though, because,
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one, tariffs are never going to replace taxes and two, tariffs are going to be paid primarily,
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not by other countries and corporations. Those prices are just going to be passed down to the
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consumer. And Kirk understands this. He knows that increased prices are going to flow downhill.
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You have to. Profits go up, expenses go down. Yeah. But there's another point here, and that
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is that no one is saying that the tariffs themselves are illegal. And if Congress had
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imposed them, then the courts wouldn't have struck them down. The tariffs aren't illegal.
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It's illegal how Trump imposed them. He didn't have the legal authority to do what he did. So
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he committed a crime. He stole like a trillion dollars. Sure. That's the problem, not the
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tariffs themselves. Sure. These dipshits really need to stop pretending that they don't understand
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basic aspects of the stories they're covering because this looks embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah.
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But that's only because it is. Yeah. In every possible sense, embarrassing,
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to have to pretend like this embarrassing monster that you've created isn't an embarrassing monster.
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We thought he was going to get away with this trillion dollars thing and, oof, yikes.
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Right. It genuinely didn't occur to us that this could go wrong.
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Yeah. And I think that there's a little bit of a moment of slight honesty here on Kirk's part.
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Interesting. And that he's kind of clear that he just
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doesn't want the consequences of this. Yeah.
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If they deem it as illegal, you can't have other countries foot the bill for our expenses.
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And worse, we're going to have to pay it back. All the revenues that came in from the tariffs,
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we're going to have to pay back. So let's pray that the Supreme Court has more than half a brain.
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And they say, he's in his right to do this because if they don't, the economic consequences are
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going to be pretty nasty from that. But what if Trump, like what he did was
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illegal and outside his power? This is the ultimate question for the InfoWars character.
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If what Trump did was illegal, would you rather the Supreme Court sign off on his crime or stand
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up for the law despite the consequences that may come? Yep. This is the dividing line between what
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InfoWars used to pretend to be and what it's fine admitting to being now. In the past, the rule of
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law handed down by the founders and the constitution was sacred and it had to be followed
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to the letter. But now the Supreme Court better let Trump get away with this because if they don't,
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we'll have to pay back the trillion dollars he stole. It's going to fuck up all of our stuff.
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People are all fucking worms. I mean, I don't know how you couldn't recognize that even saying
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a sentence like that means that the person shouldn't be in power. By virtue of being in
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this situation where you are saying, if what this person did is illegal, if what this person did is
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illegal, then it will cost us $1 trillion. You're an idiot. Yeah. There's an open question about
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the legality of this action that he capriciously took that could cost a trillion dollars. And
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that's a trillion dollars of government money that where is that going? That's going to companies.
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Yep. That's going to importers. That's going to
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businesses. Going to have a great year. That's a free flow of money that a lot of it comes from us.
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No, they're going to pay the dividend. No, they're going to pay the dividend to all of
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their customers. Sure. Sure they are. No, they're going to make them whole.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's the whole idea here. That's why the government is going to do this. They're
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going to, it's going to be... I read an article about this and they talked to a guy who runs an
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importing company and he's like, man, if the Supreme Court upholds this, we are going to
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double our claims department because we are going to be getting so much of that back.
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Absolutely. It's just, everyone's getting fucked over and these people are cheering it on.
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I mean, yeah. Yep. Anyway, there's some good news that we can end this episode on.
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All right. And that is Alex has been talking about how the globalists are trying to kill his dad.
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Sure. By suing them.
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And it's, because we've brought this up, I feel like it's my responsibility to also play this
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clip of Alex discussing how his dad is doing better. Oh, good.
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I mean, I haven't talked to him about this because it makes me cry.
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My dad had half his brain stem blocked and they said he had his aorta about to blow,
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massive ballooning. And they said, look, you have to have the surgery, but it could also block the
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other part of your brain when your blood slows down during this four hour surgery, you've got
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to sign waivers to do this. They said, this is elective, even though it would normally be
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absolutely critical. So when he had the car wreck and they scanned him and they saw this
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five months ago, they said, oh my God, you have surgery right now. But then they found the brain
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stem block, they did all the dye tests and things and CAT scans. And the doctor, top cardiologist
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said, but there's a good chance once the aorta is fixed, it's going to build pressure back up
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the brain. And they're doing the scans and stuff tomorrow. He's now in a rehab. They thought he'd
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be in the hospital a month because he was in such bad shape he could barely walk. His color all came
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back. He's already out of the hospital. And it's like my old dad, the genius. Thank you for the
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prayers for my father. And this is just incredible. They were surprised he could even walk with
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HAPUS brainstem blocked on the side that does motor controls because they did a bunch of scans,
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a bunch of tests, a bunch of neurologists. So there's that. But I've been so focused on all
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this, I haven't plugged. I need your support. I need it bad. The products are incredible.
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I'm sure they are.
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Yeah. I mean, on the one hand, I guess I'm glad his dad's doing better. Just on a human level,
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people shouldn't be in pain and suffering and what have you. But that sucks. It's pretty shitty.
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I would just like for more of the worst person in the world's dreams to come true.
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What I would like is for them to be showered with ponies and ice cream and happiness at all
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turns. It makes me feel good watching all the suffering that occurs to the people who I know.
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And then all of a sudden, what you gonna do? That's just, I hope somebody's dreams come true.
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Yeah. So just to take the slight edge off, here's a little clip from the ad that follows this.
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Okay. Okay.
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Plus we are very excited to announce the launch of the Alex Jones War Bonds. Get your War Bonds
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now for $100 at the allshowstore.com with each digital certificate in the mail with a promo code
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for $110 in store credit to support the broadcast and get even more store credit.
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So for 100 bucks, $110. And then you have a little frameable War Bond. That's a cool piece of art.
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Yeah. It's a cool piece of art. This sounds like things are good.
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Yep.
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Things are going great. You give me $100 and I'll give you 110 info war bucks.
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Oh wait, I can't use that name. Alex Jones bucks.
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We've printed off little certificates that say one free hug from Info Wars. They're very nice.
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100 bucks each. But you also get a $10 discount at a store that sells trash.
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Oh wow.
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Wow. I think that the War Bonds aspect of this, it's tough to sell. And I think part of the reason
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for that is because you are currently embroiled in an argument about how you passive aggressively
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didn't fire your employees for two years. So how much of that salary, like if you bought a War Bond,
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how much of that War Bond is going towards possibly the salary of someone who six months
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from now you'll remember sucked for the last two years? Like what kind of confidence can you have
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that this money is going to the war that this War Bond is for? Like it's just trash.
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This is what I'm saying about the, like this ship is sinking and yet somehow this pile of trash is
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orchestrated in such a way that it can just caterpillar its ass across the top of a maelstrom.
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Yeah.
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This is insane.
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It's a Magooian.
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It is Magooian to full circle this shit.
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Yeah. But I mean, eventually he's going to fall off that girding.
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We all do.
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Yeah.
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That God's girding at the end. Yeah.
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So I hope that, you know, I think that Alex is a little insincere and they're like,
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I hope I never talk about Owen ever again.
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Sure.
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But I sincerely...
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I kind of hope we never talk about Owen ever again.
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Yeah.
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That'd be fun.
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We had our fun and I'm glad we did, but I hope this chapter is over and now we can just watch
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Alex, I guess, attack Epstein victims on behalf of Trump.
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Yeah. The first and last interesting thing Owen did was quit.
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Yeah. And I think it also like, it showed me a dark thing about myself.
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Yeah.
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And that is that like, you know, when Alex does these really disappointing,
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horrible things that are like invalidating of all of the principles he's pretended to have for years,
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it's kind of like, oh yeah, that's what you expect.
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Yeah.
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And then when there's a little slap fight, I got really excited.
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I mean, it was really exciting though.
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It was really exciting.
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That doesn't speak that highly of me.
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No, it's just a matter of deprivation.
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Listen, you're naked and afraid.
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You're hungry.
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You haven't eaten for 12 days.
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Boy, that tiny little bottom feeding catfish.
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That might be the most delicious meal you've ever had.
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Yep. So thanks for that, Owen.
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Thanks for being a bottom feeding catfish.
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You piece of shit.
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We will be back with another episode to see where Alex, see how he finds the bottom.
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But until then we have a website.
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Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep. We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark and I'm the mysterious professor.
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Woo. Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a person in color.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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