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Hey, everybody!
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes.
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Would like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed, we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan, I have a quick question for you.
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first? My bright spot is... I'll tell you what my bright spot is. Okay. I was playing some tennis
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yeah and my racket broke. Nice, you hit it too hard. No no no it was bad it just one of the strings
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broke but here's what the bright spot about that is. I was playing like dog shit. Okay. I was
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absolute garbage and then the string broke and it was like ah no wonder I was playing so poorly.
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Oh I thought you were gonna say that it gave you an excuse to stop playing because you were so bad.
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Racket's broken can't play anymore. No we got a replacement racket that worked. I started playing
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a lot better because it worked. Okay. Yeah so I can you know you can just restring it. Yeah. You
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don't have to be like I feel bad for being a bad person. Sure your bright spot is having an excuse.
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My bright spot is having something to fix that isn't my own self-esteem. Okay see I go the
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entirely opposite direction with this. If I'm ever playing a sport and the equipment breaks
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it's because I'm too good. I hit it too hard. Too hard? I just the angle was too right. Right. And
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I just I broke it. See the problem there is that it's very easy to access people who can hit the
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ball significantly harder than me. Right but not exactly right. Oh that's fair. It's like the one
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inch punch kind of thing you know you gotta just yeah your swing was look any anyone could break
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a backboard with a slam dunk. Is that true? In theory. Is this like a million monkeys with a
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million typewriters could break a backboard situation? I am now setting out to break a
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backboard to prove this uh thesis. So I have to sabotage a backboard is what you're saying. I
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would appreciate it if you did metal with a backboard in advance of me trying to jump.
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Okay okay good. We'll not call it sabotage we'll call it rearranging. I'm just saying that I think
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the glass half full version of this is that you were too good that you broke a racket. Fair
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enough I'll take it I'll take it I like that I like having a glass full. Yeah what's your
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bright spot? Um so I uh our friend uh friend of the show and old buddy Daniel Scharr is uh he's
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doing his uh not uh near sex for work one man show. Yeah. Uh out in New York and uh
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East Hampton Massachusetts. Nice. In early September and I wanted to uh give a give a plug
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for that tell people if they they're in the area and they want tickets they should go get them
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and go check out his fun one-man show full of uh filth and heart. It was great it was really
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really good I highly recommend it. Yeah people can find tickets to that at uh danielsharr.com
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s h a r. Yep. Uh so I'd recommend uh if you want to have a nice time out with something a little
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a little bit uh off a little blue but not that blue. I mean in a in a way it's the type of blue
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that is like yeah you could say that a clinical picture of a naked body is blue but it's to to
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transform like sex into just a a an observational thing as opposed to being a a a turn-on thing or
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something like that you know like you're an adult you've seen that shit deal with it we all watch it
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sure so anyway that's uh going on okay check it out yeah you should so uh today Jordan we have
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something less fun to check out that is an episode of Alex's show oh shit we're gonna be talking
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about august 11th 2025 all right the day that trump sent troops into dc right right right
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right martial law one might think well hey you know it looks looks like a duck looks very martial
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law e quacks like a duck sure that shit's not a duck anyway uh we'll talk about Alex's response
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to this and how invalidating it is of everything everything you've ever done to stand for yeah
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but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones that's a great idea so uh first
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think globalisty act low-key Lee thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you
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very much thank you uh next congratulations to Haley and Joe on your engagement and thank you
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for letting me be your maid of honor I love you both tons thank you so much you're now policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk thank you very much uh and these fucking cereals are trying to be jacks of
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all trade and it's just not working I'm not mad at the tiger we're going to rebroadcast play one
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of the old project and a lot of episodes thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy
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wonk thank you very much uh and we got a technocrat in the mix so thank you so much to in uh episode
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12 at the one hour 50 minute mark Dan swears that if they quote get enough donations to this show
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where we can quit our jobs I will legally change my name to scatman Dan thank you so much you are
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now technocrat I'm a policy wonk four stars go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant
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someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent he's a loser little little titty baby I don't want to
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hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ yeah so that I mean look this is this is fair I this
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has been pointed out to me a number of times sure and here's my here's my blanket response
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that I'm gonna give now I don't fuck with the government I'm not gonna legally change it I'm
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not gonna fill out these this paperwork there is no law so I might want to try and make a compromise
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on this okay like maybe get a scat Dan tattoo or something like that all right but I don't want to
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go through the paperwork of legally changing my name but I do feel like no one was listening then
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it's good to be reminded that we have and had humble dreams back then no one was listening
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there were like five listeners maybe it was a comical idea that anyone would ever listen to
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the show yep and so I did make that kind of a declaration sure I feel like I should follow
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through in some way but I'm not changing I'm not changing my name nah not doing paperwork come on
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man uh tattoo maybe yeah no I mean we can you can change your name in spirit at any point in time
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the problem is I don't know how to change your name legally maybe and then you gotta get a new
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id I could get a tattoo of the scat man or just his mustache I don't think you wanted I could see
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the mustache works I don't think you want a mustache and his hat like just uh yeah yeah
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nice little silhouette kind of thing yeah I like that we'll workshop something but uh yeah
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consider this addressed you are the scat man yes you are the scat man yep so Jordan um I wanted to
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uh do a little something different today okay uh but we're not going to okay what I wanted to do
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was I noticed that around this time at the beginning of August yeah Alex uh made good on
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one of his threats which was that he was gonna start having more shows right he was gonna do
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more is we're gonna go 24 hours wow he's not going 24 hours but he's building up the roster
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of shows sure and so there's a new show that he's doing uh called good morning infowars you are
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joking but it's not him who's hosting it it's someone named like Brianna Morello okay who I
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think did a book about how attractive milania is great I think she did like a picture book of give
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her a show yeah I watched it and I thought it was on unviewable there was no no Riz right uh
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no juice just nothing it was uh it was an awful awful uh it didn't even have like a you hear the
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you hear good morning info wars yeah it's a Saturday morning show yeah you're expecting
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someone maybe sitting around drinking a cup of coffee do a good morning America rip-off yeah
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yeah it's not that why it's just someone staring into a webcam and talking about all the same stuff
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that they talk about on info wars at the very least get a cup of coffee and like a thing like
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all morning shows suck but they suck in the right way everybody likes it yeah it's the way you do it
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comforting yeah they're like it's breezy out oh yeah exactly oh we we're gonna have Kid Rock
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dropping by to give us a brisket recipe of course you are like that there's no reason for you not to
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have Kid Rock give you a brisket recipe yeah so I was hoping we would cover that but instead
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I'm just mentioning it and it's trash that would be it would be so much more fun if you could force
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the the square pegs into the round holes like her and Alex doing like they're sitting on the
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director's chairs thing they're doing a whole thing but I say you even just don't don't involve Alex
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just sure just do this as uh you know how okay someone explained to me yeah that one of the
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things that Marvel could do but isn't doing as well as it could is just do genre sure you
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have one of your characters this is a mystery movie yeah one of your characters this is a
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shoot-em-up movie yep you know that you can fit those like all these Marvel superheroes into
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different types of films yeah George Lucas fits space guys into a Kurosawa film it'll be fine
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right but under the umbrella of Marvel you could have every sort of movie sure covered in different
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tendrils yeah and that's what Infowars should do like this should be uh Good Morning America
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but just also Infowarsy yeah yeah I want to I just want to force one of these people to try and be
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Regis that's what I want because there's been a gigantic Regis hole uh we all know this we feel
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it in the ether sphere at all times uh and and it's just like what if the what if Regis was also
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fucking crazy you gotta what you do James Woods maybe get James Woods to be uh Regis that would
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be fun Infowars I don't know if he's animated enough sure you know yeah that could be a problem
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you gotta get somebody with more more uh in your face juice John Voight
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I'm just trying to think who they got Kevin Sorbo you're right there's a very low ability to bring
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out a Regis yeah so um we start to uh instead of covering that morning show uh we're talking about
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the 11th August 11th okay and look uh Trump has decided that he's covering up the Epstein stuff
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and he you know bombed Iran and yeah clearly is just a real piece of shit yeah um but like you
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gotta kind of you gotta like him I know it's fashionable to say that Trump is totally screwing
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over America and gone back on his promises and that he is a total puppet of Israel on and on and on
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and certainly I've had some legitimate criticism of some of the directions he's taken and I support
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everybody's right to free speech but I gotta tell you if you actually look at what he's doing
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domestically and geopolitically it is spectacularly good for this country and he is really going to bat
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for not just the American people the people of the world if you listen to Alex's show you start
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to notice that he keeps calling certain positions fashionable or avant-garde you might think that
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he's talking about whatever is popular on Twitter that day but if you pay attention it's pretty much
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always in reference to the position that Nick Fuentes is putting out whether it's the result
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he wanted to come about or not uh Alex is in a situation where he's lost any real relevance in
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the media space where he used to be the king he used to be fashionable and avant-garde and now
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the next generation has made him irrelevant Nick is unburdened by the need to defend Trump he
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doesn't owe people a billion dollars for lying about them and he's half Alex's age Nick is
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legitimately the biggest threat to Alex's entire thing right now mostly because he's not attacking
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Alex by putting on a friendly face he's offering the audience an off-ramp that provides an answer
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for all the cognitive dissonance that Alex's show is creating we're supposed to be anti-war folks
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but now we want to invade Mexico we're the anti-epstein folks but we're supposed to just
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move on from Trump's cover-up of that we're the anti-police state people but Alex wants us to
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accept Trump taking over DC and putting feds on the street Nick has answers for all of that
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whereas Alex just has excuses and spin this media space relies on antagonism and having an other to
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point to and say I'm better than them for years the mainstream media worked as this foil and Alex
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could brand himself as the truth-based alternative to outlets like CNN but now the right-wing media
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has become so insulated and in another world that it means nothing to compare yourself to CNN
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the thing is you know these models work and this antagonism model works so it's just kind of being
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recreated with other players assuming different roles in the past Infowars was this insurgent
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avant-garde option standing against the mainstream media and now Infowars is basically their version
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of mainstream media it's boring repetitive outdated and is full of voices that are in
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favor of upholding the power structure Nick is the Infowars of the moment but it's not because
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of anything that Nick did or didn't do or any credibility or or value that he has this dynamic
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has evolved because Alex was full of shit the whole time if Alex and Infowars had done their
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job and actually been an avant-garde voice opposing the mainstream media then he wouldn't
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have become a Trump sycophant and he wouldn't have put himself in a position where he'd be getting
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alphad by a young Nazi like Nick he would have been able to maintain his cutting-edge-ness
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sure due to an excessive fealty to Trump and a tragic friendship with Roger Stone
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Alex has entirely lost the plot on what his career was supposed to be about and the timing just
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couldn't be worse the courts have given a green light to liquidating his assets so he needs to
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move his customers over to the new fake company fast but it feels like a lot of them just might
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use this crash out as a reason to explore new avant-garde options like ones Alex is presenting
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them with I think I don't it's so hard to know whether or not there's like an intentionality to
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it sure but he's acting exactly in the same way that you would if you were intentionally
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just trying to funnel your audience to more extreme shit yeah yeah I mean
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it's it's like if you're if you're looking at where Alex exists it's it's something like he
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took a job opening whenever he first started it's not like he created this space he walked
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into a space that was created for him if the media were blah blah blah blah blah then this
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space wouldn't exist and the same thing is happening with Nick he's creating the space
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for Nick to exist by not existing in that space he's created this wall of like oh well Nick can
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be here but I can't go there here's where Nick is but I can't be in that space at all and so
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people are just gonna migrate there as he gets smaller and smaller and smaller yeah and the a
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lot of that's getting smaller and smaller is self-imposed yeah exactly it's the same way that
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like Trump's handling of the Epstein stuff is shooting himself in the foot Alex behaving this
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way around these issues in the in the presence of and and while interacting with someone like Nick
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yeah is shooting himself in the foot yeah it's just he's making himself clearly appear to be
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the false uh full of shit absolutely and that's uh you couldn't ask for better if you're Nick
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which is weird because it's like man just fucking take Nick's shit I hate the Jews just move on
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you know what are you doing I think he's afraid I mean absolutely he's afraid yeah which is like
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that's why you lose in this game of all games the whole thing is just fear nothing I'm I see what
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fear nothing I'm is what I'm saying racist obviously is it stupid of course is it a lie
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why wouldn't it be and yet I still have the confidence to say it to your face I think too
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much of his career has been spent in a time where there would be real social and financial
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consequences to being a David Duke type they're right David Duke suffered a lot of consequences
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that Alex was able to avoid largely yep um and I think that I don't think he can the winds are
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changing yeah so uh you know Trump Trump's going after people he's going to indict everybody
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and look I know that a lot of people thought that was going to happen in the first term
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but if you think about it Alex really never said that was going to happen
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a lot of you've been listening for 10 20 30 years most of you for years you've you've heard me
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tell you that there was not going to be any indictments of the deep state
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in the first trump administration because I knew that sessions was
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weak I knew Barr was ultra bad and I I understood who the players were and who they had at the head
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of the FBI and Trump's admitted he wasn't very sophisticated on how Washington works
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because he was not an insider and so he's learned a lot so this is a fun uh little rewriting of
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history is it yeah in the lead up to the 2016 election Jeff Sessions was one of the first
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people in congress to support Trump's candidacy and that made him a darling of the media surrogates
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like Roger Stone early on Roger was coming on info wars to promote the idea of sessions being Trump's
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VP and everyone loved the dude he was a guy with principle which is what the globalists feared the
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most on November 18 2016 Alex said quote he's now announced that his attorney general should he be
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confirmed by the senate uh senator Jeff Sessions that's gonna happen very honorable man could not
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think of a better choice that guy does not deal in politics when it comes to justice huh people
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better look out and let me tell you Hillary is going to be in big trouble Jeff Sessions never
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compromises never backs down and is one of the best people we've got in our government
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you shouldn't be allowed to go back and listen to sessions got into office and then recused himself
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from the Russian election interference investigation which turned all of the right
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wing media folks against him they voted for Trump so he would be irresponsible with power the way
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they liked so his attorney general making a move like this was just the definition of weak and so
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the story became that they didn't ever think that sessions was going to get things done in the first
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place Alex is a little closer to write about his take about William Barr but that was a no-brainer
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the bar was in the Bush administration and had been involved in Iran Contra so he was a figure
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that entered the scene with some baggage Infowars took a much more I don't know about this type
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approach to his appointment but they did still keep hope alive that Barr was going to get some
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indictments going they tried to rationalize that the only reason Trump would appoint someone like
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Barr is because Barr is a closer and he knows how to get results he knows where the bodies are
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buried I I mean I thought it was because he was a cover-upper famously covering up things I made
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a potato that's fair potato I yeah I I'll give Alex a pass about not promising that Barr would
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lock up all their enemies but he's absolutely lying about not saying that sessions was going
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to do that yeah and the only reason you do this is because you want like you want that this time
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I'm serious yeah energy no I mean it is it is like I think if I if I boil down what the the
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general vibe is for me it's like I have watched Trump run for president for the past decade
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and now I'm watching him be the president and everybody's going well this was a huge mistake
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we should never have allowed that we liked it when he was running for president he made us feel like
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something was going to happen what he's doing is horrible yeah yeah yeah it should be it should be
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seen as pretty universally horrible yeah I mean everybody like I can't wait for him to demand
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everyone be vaccinated and uh yeah why not the right wing to like you know what when you think
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about what he's done with the border yep yeah maybe we gotta go with him on this one here's
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what we do all right uh hypnosis I think that'd work sure or just you know make him fall asleep
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a lot I I mean he's old yeah that should work he's probably fairly tired generally
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so uh Alex uh talks a little bit about uh the Trump-Putin summit sure what's happening in uh
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in Alaska which Trump keeps calling Russia yeah um and that's fun but that is fun Alex Alex is like
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this is the problem with Ukraine is solved now there's also huge news on the Ukraine war front
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the biggest yet and it just confirms exactly what I said because I followed Trump's policies I
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followed his deal making I followed what he said people sit back and don't listen to it
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if Zelensky doesn't take this deal that's already been done it's already agreed to it's going to
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formalize it Friday in Alaska with Putin and Trump Trump is going to cut off all the military funds
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all the intelligence that's the direction of the missiles and the weapons we run that we run the
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war and Putin is then going to discontinue to blow the living hell out of the Ukrainian military
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and there will be a coup by Zelensky's generals against him um one of the top generals we already
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know the name will be made the interim president they will then hold elections uh there will be a
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ceasefire before the elections and then the Russians will pull back and that's the deal
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so Alex is solidly in favor of forced regime change in Ukraine which isn't a surprise or
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anything but it's so out of line with who he's supposed to be staying out of a war is a reasonable
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position for him to have on the basis of like non-interventionism but what he's advocating for
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is Trump choosing a winner of the war incidentally the Trump-Putin summit in Alaska ended with no
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agreement about what to do in Ukraine and resulted in Trump saying that if they don't
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knock it off he'll probably put more sanctions on Russia what you're gonna do that threat came after
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Russia bombed a U.S. owned factory in Ukraine that produced consumer electronics and had no connection
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to weapons or the war effort or anything Trump did not solve this war with with that summit and the
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situation Alex is describing is his fantasy of what uh was going to happen and it just strikes
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me the same as like the uh this war will be over in 48 hours you uh Zelensky works for Putin he's
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already agreed I I mean I just imagine myself not as like I don't want to be a big player in any of
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this but I imagine myself in the position of somebody who's like a fairly high up aid somewhere
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around who's like calling who's getting things together and at a certain point I am like writing
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something down and I go Trump and Putin are going to meet to talk about the Ukraine peace thing and
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I just go what am I doing what is what are any of us doing do you know how much money it costs to
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get these two idiots to this place in the middle of nowhere to do nothing because of course they're
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not going to do anything what is wrong with all of us they um uh appeared strong see so that's
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an achievement is that a chance that what I do as an aid is that what I am and there's police in
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DC what I'm trying to say is I would get out of there uh-huh that would be my my advice stay in
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Alaska sure yeah I mean look it's a harsh tundra sure uh the the snow is unforgiving uh but hey
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uh you'll never have predictable you'll never have the realization that everything you've ever worked
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or believed in is a lie true it'll just be cold so um look yeah the summit's gonna happen sure
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everything's solved and Alex has the position that if Trump just ends this Ukraine war
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he that makes his presidency worth it just on its own that's an interesting question this is this is
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huge okay and if Trump can get this done that alone is wonderful and and and it was worth
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getting him into office and all we've gone through but the rfk junior stuff all of it
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and I've just been doing a lot of soul searching I'm very critical of Trump when he's wrong get on
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his ass first before anybody else does but I cannot sit back and throw the baby out with
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the bathwater and just become completely disillusioned and just watch the democrats
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keep all their stolen seats and keep all their legal alien voters and have the new census and
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you know add 30 new seats for themselves and just the country's done and and then they're coming
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after all of us so we need Trump to succeed and I pray to God there's no real Epstein stuff there
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I've never seen any evidence of it even most of his detractors don't believe that he's covering it
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up for Masad and the CIA who we know ran it that's not even debatable we've done that for decades
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that's just one of these groups doing this and I said they're gonna stab me in the back Trump
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and I was told when he first got in seven months ago you're not gonna get the Epstein stuff
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it's not gonna happen not gonna go on I've talked to prosecutors Roger Stone told me that
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he's now said said it on the show that yes he did say that and that's what it is so this is the bar
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that politicians need to clear now apparently for Alex it's fine if you actively cover up a giant
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child trafficking and blackmail rings just so long as you're not involved in it yourself
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you're just doing the cover-up as a favor to the CIA and Masad this shit sounds so dumb to the
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point where you have to wonder if Alex can even hear himself what conspiracy in his career couldn't
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be justified by saying that the people in power were covering it up as a favor to the deep state
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because it being revealed would be too messy yeah this is supposed to be a deal breaker for someone
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like Alex and the fact that it's not should make everyone realize that the deal isn't what it
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appeared to be all this time what he's pretended to care about isn't really what matters and when
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that becomes this clear you can see what really does matter and again Alex is rewriting his own
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history here he definitely didn't say that Trump wasn't going to release the Epstein files and in
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fact promised that as soon as Kosh Patel got in as the FBI director they would be out day one yep
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he knows that his past positions destroy his current credibility so he's just pretending
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that he said something different in the past in order to be like I'm real this is real this time
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right it's fucking garbage sad I I can't imagine
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like okay here is what I thought was the bonus to being a libertarian fuck your baby I'm gonna
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throw this bath water out and another baby that baby's not even in the bath I'm gonna
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throw that baby out too fuck all babies yeah even my own baby I don't feel obligated to feed it
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right yeah that's what the like the Mies Institute like that was their bread and butter was writing
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articles about how if you're a parent you're not morally obligated to your kid clothes it's all
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fucking bullshit society's trash what are we doing here yeah that was the fun of libertarianism
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right yeah what are how are you defending the government well because it's really just about
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power nuts and about power being directed in the ways that Alex wants particularly those that
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make his white identity class feel safe yep so uh DC
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whoo uh Trump uh Trump put some troops troops on the streets I know listen I know it's awful
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but also you also have to know that a lot of those troops are like standing somewhere just going
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what are we doing what are we doing yeah do we have orders yeah do we like arrest people what
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do we arrest how do you arrest somebody yeah there's a fair amount of milling around uh
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confusedly we don't know what to do and it's totally cool yeah of course
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breaking trump places dc under federal control brings in national guard to liberate capital from
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democrat control and this is the exact same type of stuff that Andrew Jackson and others did
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when cities fell into total riots and lawlessness the trail of tears so it is not the police state
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trump's releasing non-violent offenders you know all the rest of it reforming all sorts of you know
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drug laws you name it he wants the dealers in prison for life or executed but the people using
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it no you know get a medical help the democrats were the ones training under clinton and then
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obama and it happened under bush too to fight constitutional terrorists and their main mission
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the main threat was militias and white supremacists all this made-up stuff and then they
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get to say the number one crime in america the it's rampant white supremacists killing black
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people and asians what so the the drug people drug users get the medical help i'm sure alex wants the
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government to subsidize or pay for those programs to get them that medical help wow no problem i
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mean in a sense medical help could include being put inside of a very small room and held against
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your will yeah hypothetical medical help not actual yes yeah yeah absolutely so i wrote
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thousands of words and erased thousands of words trying to sum up how fucked up it is for alex to
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have the position that he has but it's just self-evident yeah it's there's nothing you can
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say descriptive how do you describe air it just it's air it's fucked up if you and i look at this
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thing and you see something different it is not my fault no alex supporting trump taking over dc
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and his willingness to report this action as being part of quote liberating the city from democrats
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is so far past what his definition of the police state should be that all he can really do is deny
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and then start ranting about how past presidents were too mean to militias and racists i honestly
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can't figure out how to say anything to add a point here other than to say that alex has no
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listeners left with critical thinking skills they have been the subject to a lot of bottlenecks in
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the past that have thinned out their ranks but this is impossible the only people who could
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possibly be left are super old super dumb or nazis who just haven't gotten the message that it's time
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to move on from this sinking ship because this is atrocious yeah he like i don't know there's a lot
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of things that i think i have in the past said well this invalidates his entire career sure but
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like he's made so many films called police state it's literally i mean it's literally a police state
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because one dc is its own state right it's not a it's not a like you know independent state it's
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its own thing right it is in totality covered by police and national guard people from other states
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no less yeah exactly national guard troops from other states who trump has called in yeah i mean
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what else is there to say what's weird about it here's what's weird about it right this feels like
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bad dictatoring because if i'm open with what i want from if i'm dictating right i'm the bad guy
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if i'm open about what i want from these people i'm getting the oath keepers i'm hiring thugs what
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i want is people to feel a general sense of terror right but if i've got professional national
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guardsmen who actually give a shit about what they do they're more gonna be like how can i help you
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like that's what they do there might be a blend of oath keepers within well see that's the problem
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with ice is that i think oath keepers are getting hired by the millions that might be yeah i i think
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i think if you're if you're a dictator you might start with this and then bring in you know like
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you might replace them sure get people to trust the the people and then replace them with thugs
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yeah that's possible yeah i don't know we're bad dictators there's a lot of options well it's not
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an interest of mine i mean either i haven't really haven't thought about it too much so alex
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one of the things that you notice uh watching this is like as he's talking about how cool it is that
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dc's been taken over it's super cool um he can't really talk about it without drifting deep into
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some feelings about race sure and so you know you already saw it uh in that last clip he's already
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drifting into like feelings about oh they call us white supremacists there's no white supremacist
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murders uh and and he can't disentangle this every once in a while some crazy white supremacist goes
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and kills some innocent black people and man it is the end of the world it's all you ever hear about
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but it is statistically incredibly rare like i've looked the numbers up if you average out
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white supremacists killing black people over the last 20 years is about five black people a year
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and that's too many but i mean it is it is it is like finding a four-leaf clover or something
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i mean it is rare rare rare rare rare but now oh marshall oh my gosh ice it's illegal
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they're arresting illegals appellate courts codes completely constitutional and dc is scary you can
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see that alex's views uh that he views trump's takeover of dc as a racial crime related thing
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since he's oh yeah trying to use the infrequency of white supremacist murders to invalidate the
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claim that what's happening in dc is the police state i think it's important for us to take a
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moment to think about what the police state means because on some level alex does have a few
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technicalities that he can play around with here but he shouldn't be allowed to and he shouldn't
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want to on a purely technical level trump taking over the metropolitan police department is not
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illegal it's within the powers of the president to declare an emergency and federalize it
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under his authority and that emergency state continuing past the intended 48-hour window
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is totally legal because this emergency was declared when congress was adjourned
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the idea that there's a lot of crime in dc is a it's a thin excuse to declare an emergency
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but if that's what trump considers an emergency and what alex is willing to defend as requiring
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calling in the national guard that's their prerogative i strongly disagree and i would
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argue against that stance but if that's the position they want to take then that's where it
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stands federalizing the dc police and calling in the national guard to engage in domestic policing
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in dc is not technically illegal but i think anyone looking at this honestly would have to say
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that it's an escalation of the police state national guard troops and federalized police
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are patrolling public transit and district streets they've set up checkpoints in multiple locations
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they're confiscating guns and they're arresting people for petty crimes and doing immigration
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roundups this is the police state and if alex wants to defend that on technicalities and pretend
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that local crime in dc is a good reason to declare an emergency requiring multiple states national
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guard forces responding then that's on him he can take that stance if he wants it's easy for him to
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just say no this isn't the police state stuff but i've watched his documentaries there's multiple
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that include the title police state yeah i know what he thinks about just building a big road was
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part of being a the police state sure yeah or like fema doing their job sure alex is very stupid
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and really lazy so i often give him more benefits of the doubt than he deserves because a lot of the
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time it doesn't really matter whether he's operating from a place of idiocy or malice
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the effect is the same he deserves zero leeway on this and should recognize that him making excuses
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for trump taking over dc is a stain on his entire career this is the moment his character was made
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for if you look at the world yeah this is when alex jones uh why you have one well there's a
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pedophile billionaire in the white house with a very small group of other pedophile billionaires
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who run the world who's creating a fake emergency in order to militarize the police in the capital
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yep like this is the point of having somewhat like putting up with the negative externalities
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of having an alex jones in the world yep and and because these circumstances are coming to bear
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you can see how fake it was the whole time yeah never meant any of it no wanted power and uh
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white identity i mean ironically what's so funny is that he is proving true something that he's
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often said is like you know if i was right they would kill me if i were anything but what i am
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i would be dead by now yeah i would be on this is the perfect time to kill me
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i'm very killable at this exact moment but but it turns out i'm not that scary it's it is one of the
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things that i hate the most like throughout my life one of the things that i hate the most
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is just not being willing to take responsibility for wanting to and being that guy like he wants
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to be and be the guy who's like it's all right if he does that shit but he doesn't want to take
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responsibility for being that guy he doesn't want to be accountable for being that guy he just wants
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to vacation there so he can get away with this bullshit and then go back to being whatever he
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fucked i hate that shit i hate that shit yeah just do it the the person that he pretends to be and
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wants to be is someone that has to make really really difficult choices and oftentimes they go
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against what would be in their direct self-interest exactly he does not want to
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make those choices that go against his own self-interest but wants to still wear the hat
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which is it's sad which is like in a gestalt sense you are making the wrong choice what is the choice
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that's for your best interests is the choice that paradoxically looks like it's not the choice for
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your best interests at this moment in time right yeah like bill cooper dying the way he did right
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is the right choice exactly for him for him even though it's a horrible horrible choice it is the
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right choice yes because it completes the totality of the man he doesn't have to uh continue on in a
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career that will you know make him into what alex is now right you're just you're defending the
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thing that was the devil yeah for your whole career i mean it's insane stupid it's just insane
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but dc is scary there's crime all right i've been in detroit and they say it's super scary i've been
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in the different areas no not really statistically you know crime i grew up in dallas it was the
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murder capital of the us off and on between chicago so i mean they have like 14 murders a
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day when i was a kid and i mean it was like muggings all over and carjackings and home
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invasions and not i mean it was pretty wild and dc scarier than growing up in the dallas in the
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80s so in my opinion i mean let me tell you you don't go around walking around at night you sure
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as hell look over your shoulder and and if you want to be if you want to have some racist stuff
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said to you because you're white that's the place to go oh my god it's gonna happen so a few years
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back i was seeing someone who lived in dc so i spent a fair amount of time there and i'll say
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that this does not match my experience of dc but again you can see how much of alex's feelings
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about trump taking over dc has to do with his feelings about race he thinks that the black
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people in dc aren't nice enough to white people so you got to call in the national guard that's
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basically what he's saying i mean you know yeah yeah eat in the same restaurant and then here we
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are as to his point about growing up in dallas uh like first off there was absolutely not 14 murders
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a day in dallas in the 80s 1988 was the year of that decade that had the highest total number of
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murders and it was 366 for the whole year right but the question there is would alex have supported
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the national guard coming in to police dallas when he was a kid is he expecting me to think that his
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john birch society s family would have been cheering on the feds taking control of the city
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because crime was out of control no way man 14 dead a day is a lot though but it's not real no i
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know i understand it's not real but that would be that would be maybe crazy enough that you're like
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whatever's going on right now is not working you know sure that's that's so many it is a lot it's
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a lot it's it's quite a few um again hypothetical because none of this was happening no so of course
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it would be insane to do that yeah i i also think that uh you know it's it's hard to wrap your mind
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around numbers because of like the vastness of cities sure absolutely um but 14 would still be
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pretty high 14 like what what's that almost uh three three thousand five thousand people a year
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yeah in a city like dallas you know somebody who's been murdered this year if that's who you are you
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know what i'm saying like you it is affected you you're one out of eight people who know somebody
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who's been murdered that's the statistics on that right almost like covid yeah everybody would be
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like jesus christ there's so many fucking murders yeah yeah so alex thinks that this is gonna work
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i mean work to do what what is the goal though scare homeless people there we go no instead
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they're out actually aiding the police eyes and ears and just their presence is gonna make crime
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drop dramatically and trump sold the homeless the city isn't here for you we're not rolling out the
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red carpet anymore and most cities do that places like austin san francisco and dc advertise it's
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the place to come and so it's like day of the dead in austin texas since they did this six years ago
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day of the dead all over the place homeless people constantly in my parents backyard
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banging on my daughter's condo door trying to get in all the time it's not even a bad area
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it used to be a nice area and now it's like zombie land
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and hispanic homeless black homeless white homeless all have been in my parents backyard
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high as kites crapping
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throwing garbage everywhere
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oh yeah you you you get a schizophrenic one comes up your door looks like charlie manston
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with crap running down their legs and all the ngo's giving them all the money so i guess alex
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thinks that the fed should come take over austin too then right i mean like he what he's describing
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is like this is out of control this is that's what you need the national guard for yeah there's too
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many scary unhoused people around so you got to get troops on the street bothering everyone yeah
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on the street bothering everyone yeah it's uh this is a real cool libertarian yeah cool
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small government anti-federal states rights see kind of dude because it's like it's not like the
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metropolitan police department isn't armed equally as well as the national guard like they've got
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they're outfitted they've got tanks and shit well i mean yeah that's a lot of the police state stuff
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that alex used to be quite critical right we're all very unhappy that the military sold all of
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their useless war of iraq shit to all of our cops right because now they have a lot of weapons sure
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right so like what are you guys up to man what are you gonna do um what do you got like what are you
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gonna but like seriously as a as an also okay how about this how about we do this we make a bet
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right like we're gonna just let you do this shit you do the national guard shit i don't give a
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shit about the law do the national guard shit for a year we study it we everything is perfectly
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mapped out and if it works then it's fine but if it doesn't work we can never do it again well
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you know yeah i think you'd run into everyone bickering about like what the stats are what they
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mean i think i think you would end up with uh kind of maybe an unfortunately meaningless data set
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that wouldn't tell you if this actually achieved whatever goal you wanted to or not an argument
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could be made in both directions probably based on whatever the results are it'll have to be me
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you can't do it anymore ever okay there we go this also might be dicey not yet um so i i just
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think that alex uh just wants poor people uh to be rounded up i guess i don't know cool at least
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we're spending money on them somehow now admittedly it's not helping them it's paying somebody else to
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hurt them but we are investing in our population if you think about it that's that's a very
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optimistic view see i'm an optimistic guy so look there's tyranny in the world sure but what about
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the tyranny of crime maybe we need someone to free us from the tyranny of crime i think it's
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possible i think it's impossible to be crime tyrann because the law is the tyranny no not
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anymore oh okay crime is the tyranny okay all right in la places the cops get in trouble if
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they arrest people dealing drugs and it's got like that in austin with jose garza our open communist
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soros da
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so yeah no no the tyranny is the crime explosion and our reporter getting executed by some mexican
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and a black supremacist who all bragged about it we killed that white son of a bitch hahaha
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people are raza kill the cracker it's in the indictment
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carjackings all the time right around the studio six years ago almost no crime nice area hellhole
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and the state police aren't trained right when the governor put them in they just write tickets
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they're real good at you know well you were five miles over the speed limit let's pull you over
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and i'm just like i'm gonna give you a warning alex but i'm like can't you go they're selling
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crack a mile down the road right here i know we're just here to patrol and you know we pull
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over a lot of cars and stop we've caught some people we pull them over i'm like great thanks
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a lot man yeah i mean come on you got literal crack heads up like 50 yards away actually in the
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woods and you're gonna pull me over five miles over the speed limit okay whatever knock yourself
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out so yeah we're just showing some images of austin so thank god for trump and he's doing the
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right thing and it's beautiful and it's all constitutional here's what he had to say today
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very serious purpose something's out of control but we're going to put it in control very quickly
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like we did on the southern border i'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital
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from crime bloodshed bedlam and squalor and worse so one of the people arrested for killing alex's
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reporter jamie white did record a song that mentioned killing that white guy but because
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it's jamie white's last name it's very difficult to tell if they were referencing his skin color
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or his name alex has naturally taken it as a racial attack because that's how he experiences
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everything to the point where i guess mexican supremacists and black supremacists were working
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together to kill his employee sure it's bridging a gap i mean you know it's nice to see people
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working together overcoming their differences yeah absolutely it's kind of an inspiring story
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if you think about it so we can tell from alex's actions that police state stuff it really isn't
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that important to him because if it were this would be a bridge that he just couldn't cross
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fill in the blank with whatever explanation you want but the bottom line is that he if he ever
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really cared about this stuff from a principal standpoint his behavior would be different now
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from that data point it's helpful to go back and see what insight you can have about other
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positions that he used to push around this stuff if alex really never cared that much about police
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state stuff and federalizing of the national guard then what was actually what was he actually mad
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about what were the actual positions that he was trying to hide behind that facade of police state
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outrage yeah spoiler alert it was mostly just racism and attacking public spending to protect
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the wealth of the elites um that's basically yeah what all of this was a mask yeah i mean there's no
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other way to say it but if ever there was going to be a universal like well january 6 wasn't that bad
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of an idea it's gonna be now like there's it's a police state in dc what do you want what do you
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want no you know like whatever argument you want to have what do you want the real police state
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was trump not winning in 2020 that you hey if that's what you want to say that's fine but do
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you know what that also includes this right now that it still includes this right now trump is
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going to save us from the tyranny of crime but that's what i'm saying but even then it still
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includes this right now so all of the things that made you do january 6th right are now but more
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right but also let's uh take a little moment to step back and realize that the reasons they did
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january 6th aren't what you're wait hold on yeah so okay i don't think they were telling the truth
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no i think they might not have been on the level i think they might not have been on the level yeah
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almost like all these fucks are liars oh my anyway uh trump talks here a little bit he he's he's
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giving his announcement and i like uh that he he says that the capital has been taken over by wild
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youths sure our capital city has been overtaken by violent gangs and bloodthirsty criminals roving
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mobs of wild youth drugged out maniacs and homeless people and we're not going to let it
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happen anymore we're not going to take it yeah i live in a pretty good part of austin
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and i drive to work sometimes at five six in the morning and they'll just be people running half
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naked with baseball bats just across the highway warriors and then i come out and play and i mean
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i've seen people running around like machetes baseball bats just attacking each other on the
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side of the road and i mean some mornings when i guess they're really wound up i mean i'll see it
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multiple times like i'm in grand theft auto i'm just driving along i've got my gun out and i'm
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sorry oh that red light it's going to red light oh there's two crazies right there
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i'm just like oh let me get my gun because i don't want to have to shoot anybody but i mean
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it is they are on fentanyl methamphetamine that sounds insane wow yeah man here's what i love
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about everybody who's ever been like oh chicago there's so much gun violence man i have never
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felt like i should drive around with a brandished gun out the window when you drive over here to
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record never once never once was i like you're not just holding i just better be i just better
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have this pointed out the window because who knows what could happen well but here's the thing
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alex isn't either no of course he's making this up of course this is ridiculous so many videos
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that he's shot himself of him driving around yeah he's not holding a gun no he's casually driving
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around because in a nice car yeah he's he's trying to create the image of that uh the lp video deep
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space nine millimeter red but he's got a gun too yeah everybody's just pointing a gun at each other
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all the time this is what it's like this is what this is how it has to be in order to keep the
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peace it's not you're driving around recording yourself posting on twitter you're fine there is
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no way that the writer of death uh death wish should become the president you know what i mean
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like charles bronson going around solving crime by himself i just learned the other day that they
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remade death wish oh god i didn't realize that i must have known and then forgotten but bruce
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willis bruce willis yeah bruce willis will never beat charles bronson was perfect for that yeah
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it also this is a crazy thing to say okay but the remake looks so much more violent than the
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first one which is weird the first one is really not that violent no he doesn't kill he kills like
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i think one or two people yeah i mean it's in any in any way you could describe it it's more like a
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probably an overreaction but an understandable one death wish 2 is when it's like oh this guy's
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just a bird correct is it death wish 3 3 is whenever he's just basically mowing people down
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like hot shots part two yeah three is where it gets out of hand gotcha but i think i saw the
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trailer for the uh the remake because i was thinking about watching it yeah and i was like
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i think what they just must have done is compressed all of them into this remake right i think that
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sucks um anyway uh alex does seem to think that he's living in the warriors yeah that sounds right
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nuts that sounds fun and he also thinks that all of these other gangs in new york all these fun
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dressed up gangs yeah they all just hate him because he's white yeah that makes sense so
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this all ties together i want to just get this on record because it's absolutely true and i thought
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i ought to give this to mcbrane or somebody we ought to take this guy's video like we like to
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do an upgraded and just add history and documents to it so you know all the specifics he does a good
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job but i mean i could you could make a whole movie about this but notice there really aren't
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any movies there's like one movie about it because that doesn't fit the narrative
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you know well the only places slavery's still around is in some places the middle east and
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africa and somalia they're famous slavers illinois comes from a famous noble family in in there
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doesn't even African they see blacks in the quran as quote raisin heads
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and and they would they would take the black men and cut their genitals off as slaves
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sure that's the muslims okay but they preach islam in the in the in the prisons and the imam don't
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read that part of the quran to you naturally and and i'm not trying to attack blacks that want to
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be muslims or whatever but just please my point is please please stop saying i'm a white devil
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because of the color of my skin actually kind of a pink devil that little red devil actually
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the point is is that i'm tired of it and i'm not going to bow down to it but it's the globalist
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and the media and hollywood doing this to get us to kill each other and it's stupid but you have
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large groups of young black men who really believe it's open season on whites because of the culture
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and the media remember they added some of the africaners only 80 of them coming here they had
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all these black commentators on tv they're supposedly educated saying they try to be racist
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to me i'm gonna beat the hell out of them this is going like the africaners get off and go you work
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for me black man that is what they do yes they hide out on their farms they're totally scared
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to death and have a bunch of black people that love them that are christian that defend them
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oh boy so just a little side note at the beginning alex is literally talking about stealing and
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improving a video made by a black life coach about how white people didn't create slavery yeah
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like he has no concern about intellectual property that this guy might have and also i really do think
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the funny it's a funny idea conceptually just that he's like i could do that better yeah yeah
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it is an exemplification of the very thing that is it's it's impossible to wrap your head around
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really so this is also very instructive because this is still an offshoot of the conversation
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about trump taking over dc on a very basic level alex supports trump taking over the city because
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he sees it as predominantly black so this extension of the police state is going in the
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direction that he supports i've said it many times and i'll say it again alex does not care about the
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idea of a tyrannical state as long as he feels like the groups that he considers himself a part
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of are not targeted by it if the government is worried about militias and nazis then the police
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state is the biggest issue in the world and something as minor as fema trying to prepare for
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a natural disaster is proof of an evil plot if the government is full of militia types of nazis
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then the police state isn't that big of a problem and it's fully justified by how much crime alex
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sees people post videos of on twitter and it's just nonsense pretending there's anything much
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deeper than that to his like core beliefs is like it's a little i mean that there's the national
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guard has called it a dc to cover the place how do you not just go like ah fuck like that would
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be my whole show that would be my whole show everything up to this point i'd be like i tried
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with the eppstein stuff i gave it a shot you know i tried to light it through that and then what
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about the butter yeah yeah i mean the butter's a problem you know the devil's an issue but you
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know what fuck man fuck that that's just it's comically far yeah no it's it's too far it's
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almost personal it feels like if i was if i was trump and i was like you know what would really
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make me fucking laugh is to sometimes just every now and again watch a clip of alex jones having
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to defend the absolute worst shit i've ever done yeah yeah that'd be hilarious i imagine it would
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be really funny if trump did like the state of the union and he just made two frogs kiss
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absolutely yes totally pushing frogs up against each other if i would i would support up if the
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next president just wanted to antagonize one person through all of what he does that would
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be better than what we have currently and so i will according to the rules of hillary clinton
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vote for the lesser of two evils sure yeah so i'm just talking a little bit about the uh africaners
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there yeah that was great i think you should talk more about the africaners if you're a white
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supremacist well good he does great and then roving bands of non-christian communists come
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and kill the blacks and the whites of south africa you don't know anything dumbass the
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blacks are all battling to prove themselves and go live on the farms with the white people
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they're like they're Amish dumb bows that's literally what they are they went to america
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they went to south america they went and found hawaii of the the king of hawaii gave
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Amish i'm sorry they call the forbidden island look it up they're Amish there today
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and only the Amish and the natives live there with no electricity
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i was invited out there i didn't have time to do it
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so this isn't true at all but it speaks to Alex's belief in white supremacy and his fundamental
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support for the world of colonialist times sure africaners are not Amish they're descended from
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mostly dutch settlers who were servants of the dutch east india company on account of the african
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that being a yeah yeah yeah the dutch reformed church made a foothold there in south africa but
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over time a split developed in the church and a new dutch reformed church of south africa began
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which was distinct in many ways at the root though reformed churches are churches that are
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inspired by calvinist doctrine and are built around the idea that man is a slave to sin
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and cannot escape by choice or will sure only those who god has chosen to help can be saved
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and these are the elect these teachings were introduced by john calvin a french theologian
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who was a right uh alive in the early 1500s conversely the Amish grew out of the anabaptist
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reformation that went down in switzerland also in the 1500s the radical departure that the anabaptists
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made was the uh from the existing church uh was that the they only practiced baptism of believers
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which is to say you had to be an adult to be baptized the act of being baptized is a holy
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agreement between yourself and god and when you're a child you can't possibly enter that agreement by
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your own free will and understanding so child baptism is meaningless the calvinist tradition
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practices infant baptism and is not part of the anabaptist tradition that spread into the
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amish and meninite churches that alex would be vaguely familiar with beyond the fact that their
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histories and theological lineages are completely separate there's also just fundamental differences
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between what these churches believe and how they practice their faith the forbidden island in hawaii
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is ni'i how and it's privately owned the census says that there's 170 people living on the island
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but it's entirely under the control of the robinson family who are descendants of a rich
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scottish farmer named elizabeth sinclair she bought ni'i how from the kingdom of hawaii for
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10 000 bucks in gold in 1864 and it's passed down through the family ever since they are somewhat
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conservative but i really don't think they would have invited alex to visit the island it just
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doesn't seem right it's a complex thing here where this family has complete control over the island
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and they make a bunch of money letting the military have a post there but the flip side of
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it is that they're conservationists and part of their ownership involves allowing the native
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population on the island to continue to live there unimpeded and rent free over the years
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they've allowed half-day visits to the island for tourists and hunters for a price but it's always
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been strictly forbidden to interact with the locals who would be on the other side of the
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island from where any visitors would be anyway sure it's kind of bullshit because the family
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also imposes a bunch of artificial rules on the native population like not allowing drinking or
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smoking and not allowing men to grow beards so what they're doing is more or less allowing an
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artificial remnant of ni'i how culture to remain as long as it conforms to what they want it to be
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oh god a lot of these people on the island work to maintain the military installation so it's not
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a wholly benevolent act for the family to allow them to live on the island since if they didn't
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do that they'd have to find another source of labor to facilitate the the base that allows them
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to get the rent so there's a lot of speculation that the 170 number on the census is an over
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counting and there might be only like 50 people living on ni'i how so it could be the case that
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a very significant portion of the population is employees there to maintain the base yeah and keep
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the family getting the rent from the us government and contracts and and all that stuff i like that
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i like the idea of calling them somewhat conservative that's funny to me because to me
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there's no line once you go i should keep holding this island
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you are fully on the other side of the you know i don't need i don't need a somewhat in there well
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you own an island and have roughly speaking somewhat enslaved its people i'm judging this
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based sort of on the fact that they're still people who live there are technically still
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u.s citizens sure and so can vote sure sure it's a very small number of people who end up voting
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yeah and uh they they have voted pretty pretty republican funny how that works yeah funny it's
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all very messy and i don't trust any of this but whatever the case is elizabeth Sinclair was not
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amish and neither are there we go yeah alex just likes colonialism and he's tying himself into
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knots to explain it in some other way than just we white people should be running everything
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i mean i i i genuinely just will never understand anybody who's like oh yeah this island should be
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mine i don't know i don't i i i i see both ends of it i think my idealistic side agrees with you
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sure but i also like i don't know once we start entering into that conversation like all land
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ownership becomes dicey yeah it does and and doesn't it yeah no yeah yeah i agree i agree in
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in in idealistic terms sure uh with a lot of that but functionally i don't know where how we get
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there from here i'm fine with that we don't need to go too far how about this we compromise on
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you can't just have your own island sure yeah i think that one's fair
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except eppstein yeah he gets to keep it weirdly enough so alex has a guest on the show yeah and
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it is a fellow we haven't seen a little bit uh real nutbag uh and he kind of he's the kind of
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person who gives me hope that steve pochenik could make a research come back because this guy was
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gone for a while too all right patrick burn is a very interesting person he's worked on
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us intelligence and a lot of high level stuff he's also uh started in you know huge successful
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multi-billion dollar companies dr patrick m burn patrick burn on x deep capture.com major films
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made about his uh work in his very intriguing life and i'm not going to go over his you know lengthy
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don't curriculum but all the rest i'm not proud he's here to talk about venezuela and how it
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ties into the democrat overall plan to steal elections and how it ties into the gerrymandering
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the redistricting you can't be any less serious than interviewing patrick burn in 2025. we haven't
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talked about him in a while because he was a little too out there for alex to associate with
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during the fallout of the 2020 election conspiracies he was way too closely connected to people like
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sydney powell who were getting sued all over the place and becoming punchlines so he became a much
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less important figure in this media to give you a little refresher on him burn founded overstock.com
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but he resigned in 2019 when it came out that he'd been in a relationship with russian spy
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maria batina she pled guilty to conspiracy to act as an unregistered foreign agent infiltrating
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organizations like the nra on behalf of the russian government and creating back channel
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connections between these figures in the government yeah she and burn were involved which
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he claimed only happened because the fbi had asked him to date her a claim which the fbi strongly
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denies oh no that sounds true she served a few months in jail and then was deported to russia in
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2019 where she went on to work for rt yeah in 2021 she was elected to the russian duma but her
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candidacy was almost derailed by revelations made by now dead alexei navelny that burn was still
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sending her large sums of cash in 2021 so yeah what you gonna do patrick burn is a fucking mess
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and alex better hope he's paying for this airtime because the alternative is that he actually wants
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to talk to patrick burn about venezuela conspiracies i mean it feels like this is out
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of the blue it feels like if i'm booking my show and what's going on is going on right now and
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patrick burn is like available with venezuela talk i'm like buddy not the time but if patrick
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burn is available with a lot of money and venezuela talk you got all the time in the world
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yeah yeah i think that uh the way the vibe that this uh uh interview goes to is that like uh
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alex does not seem that engaged at the beginning and then realizes i can work with this all right
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and becomes like pretty excited as he realizes like oh wait the venezuela stuff connects to
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all the smartmatic and dominion conspiracies i can fold your shit into my shit yeah yeah yeah
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and so he he gets on board more as it goes along but it does feel like i'm just talking to this
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ding dong at the beginning that's why you get the crazies though because then you can fold in some
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real craziness you know he doesn't have the creative juices anymore these people are coming
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out of nowhere with fringe ideas what about the butter exactly so uh you want a fringe idea hell
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yeah here's a fringe idea let's do it well that's what and and i mean vance i i know vance and
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people he's he's a very serious guy a very very smart person and very measured but he doesn't go
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on foxes and say no a bunch of people are getting it out of this happening and and and so i think
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the only thing to do is to replace the top three thousand people in the government with ex-military
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from socom or the marines you have to start with people you can trust and there is there's a whole
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layer all the lawyers the politicos they're just all soft scum the first rule is you got to get the
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right people in place and the only people you can trust at this point are ex-socom or marines i
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think historically speaking i mean this is this is good historically speaking when the top three
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thousand people in your government are all military or ex-military you're gonna have a good time yeah
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no it works you're gonna have a grand time they're the trust for the people um yeah i think just that
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conversation happening is fucking stupid you know what i think military junta how you feel i mean
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someone like alex who really worries about the police state really worries about uh tyranny
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small government right well this would be a smaller government of just three thousand people
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all of whom i think oh we well i think that would be more than three thousand sure sure sure i you
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know they would keep the other people on i assume those people would want to work for the military
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junta i don't know if want comes into it that's a fair point so um epstein comes up sure and uh
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alex is like hey this trump and epstein stuff yeah and uh patrick bern is i mean he was a really rich
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guy he ran over stock absolutely like yeah so he reveals that he knew epstein no oh he almost went
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to epstein he almost did it as an assassination mission oh hell yes epstein um i've never seen
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any evidence of trump and and anything to do with that and then his behavior the last 37 days
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creating a strizend effect he's not stupid what the hell's going on there from resources
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i don't think he was i don't think he's i don't he's been filmed on epstein island you know i've
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seen about two months before he was arrested tried very hard to get me to come to epstein island did
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i ever tie that one no i had this plan to go out and i figured well i i figured i'll accept it and
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go out and murder him and then and we'll go for a long swim i'm a low i like long distance swimming
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i figured i would get him out swimming i could drown him i got in a pool with a guy about my
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size and it turns out to be really a lot tougher to drown somebody than anything and then i got
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and then i found out about the cameras that there were cameras everywhere and they said you're
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never going to get away with it so i didn't go murder him but he tried very hard and that's
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because the cia knew what i had and what i already knew and they didn't they were so they were going
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to try to blackmail me so about a month before he got arrested i had very three very strong
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overtures people claim all the way to utah to say gosh this jeff reppstein don't believe what you
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hear about him he's a wonderful guy he's got this big trading room he really wants to meet you pat
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he really wants you to come out and talk to you by the way he's really good friends with bill
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gates don't believe what you hear in them he's he's really he's tied into all these elites you
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got to come see his trading room he really wants to meet you this dude's nuts here's what i like
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about that story and i hope you caught what i caught let's see all right um in his i'm gonna
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drown epstein story the reason he does not drown epstein is because he got a large man in a pool
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comma turns out it's very hard to drown someone comma that's why i didn't go murder well no that's
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not actually true you're you were not listening closely enough because this large man in a pool
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is a difficult this is a challenge but he could have risen to that challenge i it was the cameras
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the cameras were why he didn't do it sure i think the cameras are a good way to to say that but come
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on the cam you're out you're a long distance swimmer and there are cameras out that drone
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camera listen if you had the gumption and the ability to strangle a large man in a pool
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epstein would have been dead no that's all i'm saying that's all i'm saying he was afraid and
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he was weak no see this is this is glass half full glass half empty kind of thinking i i think that
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if he hadn't found out about the cameras sure he would have worked on his drowning skills okay okay
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i'm not saying that you're wrong it's the cameras that were the deal breaker not i won't argue not
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that it's hard to drown someone in a pool patrick bern is an achiever no no i understand you started
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a multi-billion dollar business i get you what i think is funnier about that is not that he could
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or could not have drowned this man it is that he had the idea i'll go drown epstein but he's not
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going off half cocked no we're gonna practice first of course right you don't want to get out
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there and realize in the moment this is too hard shit i can't drown anybody yeah that's embarrassing
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so he's so if we're talking about a premeditated attempted murder it doesn't get more obvious than
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when you've got a man in the pool trying to drown him for practice drowning people right yeah i
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imagine what actually happened was that patrick bern had done a little too much coke and uh tried
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to drown someone in a pool and now it's come up with a story to explain that helps i was practicing
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that would listen that would be of all the reasons to get fake drowned i think i might accept that
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one yeah so uh alex talks about how like roger roger told him all along that trump was never
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gonna release the epstein stuff it just wasn't happening why would trump come out and create
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a strata's hand effect and say uh he killed himself and don't ask questions you're dumb
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uh he has to know that would create a giant stress that effect why well i don't think he's
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in the tapes and his lawyer and all kinds of people who would know have said he's not involved
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oh yeah even colin hates him says he's not yeah i think he worked there a decade said he never heard
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a call from epstein maybe there's other people involved and that's what i was told by roger
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stone off record now he's been public he told me robin trump got reelected he said you're never
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getting it because the cia was involved with your buddies um assad and they don't want to come out
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yeah that would be my guess yeah that would be my guess i don't have any aside inside information on
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that one well i just know it is the fiasco fiascoes and so this is an explanation that
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alex is offering for how it's possible that trump would cover up the epstein stuff but not be
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directly involved in it but i don't think he understands how unacceptable this explanation is
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if trump is covering it up then he's complicit with these people he's chosen their interests
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over justice and disclosure because holding the people involved responsible would be too disruptive
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this is horrible shit but alex is able to present it as exonerating trump because the alternative
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is considering that maybe trump was best friends with a serial child predator for a number of years
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i don't know if it means anything but i was fascinated by alex's telling of what roger told
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him like why does alex say that roger called masaad your buddies i get that it's a joke but
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it's a weird joke it is a weird joke yeah it's not really a joke it's not funny i guess it's absurdist
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or like no i don't get it well it hinges on either alex hating masaad or working for them right
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exactly those are the ways that a joke could be leveraged it would have to be and i don't know
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what the i don't know what the angle is maybe it's because people say he works for masaad and that's
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his it might be roger fucking with him yeah yeah yeah that works but then if it's roger fucking
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with him then why is alex repeating i don't know that in his telling of the story it's weird such
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they're such weird people they are yeah but they're salesmen that is true and so it comes time
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to get some of the methylene blue sales oh yeah yeah um and uh man patrick fucks up oh this is
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no good and then there's so much of the news i haven't hit now you want to do the plug and i
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appreciate this i do i came out because you came in saying i want more methylene blue and then
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i looked over when you went on the air you'd already slurped some down your mouth was blue
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i said your papa smurf show show patty burn how much is the correct amount to put in about that
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much yeah i mean kennedy does three droppers this is really strong you gave me some last time i
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think you gave it on air and i thought it was a gimmick or you know snake oil you totally feel
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the difference i use the bottle you gave me it's great it totally makes it you can feel it it uh
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it just keeps your energy level up and plateaued without bonks so i love it i used the bottle you
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gave me and i came back to austin just to pick up in a well you can always get it at the auction
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short.com but we'll certainly give you all you want we also have the capsules but we have the
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strongest medical grade so patrick thought that what he was doing was saying that alex's products
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aren't like the other things you find in the market which are all snake oil what he failed
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to realize is the implication here is that when alex suggested something patrick didn't take it
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seriously right patrick's known alex for a long time so his first assumption when he hears alex
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selling a product is that it's snake oil and that it's a gimmick and i don't care i'm not interested
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yeah he meant well because he didn't realize this is what he was saying but it doesn't sit well with
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alex so after they plug their way out to a commercial they come back from a pre-recorded
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methylene blue ad and then this happens they're gonna do a second take oh no they're gonna have a
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little therapy session uh-oh patrick i'm not trying to get you to plug though i am now you got
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cut off of the break ever since we got cut off you didn't come here to do a plug i wasn't thinking
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about methylene blue i brought it up and said alex would you let me tell your viewers what an
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experience i had well i i love you and you're a really smart guy and you've been totally vidicate
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everything you've ever said so i'm really impressed i always liked you but you know i can
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tell you were spooked before it ever came out in the news i was still always a little paranoid
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about any of that stuff but uh i'm a little hurt though you're like oh i because i remember you're
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you were you were reticent i said you want to try some of this you're like really what is it you know
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i was like no no no and i'm a little hurt though that you would think that it would be snake oil i
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knew it was a snake oil but i no no i understand i understand but i mean listen everything we sell
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i want is is working and it's good that's what i want i mean i'll be like i'm gonna serve dog
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shit to people come back but i mean this thing is the most dramatic quick acting and it's good for
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you it's just insane and if i could just get a few more percentage of the audience to buy it all our
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problems will be solved you know i'm back in state court wednesday okay this is oh my god coming off
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a little week here that's amazing a little defensive i do like i do like it because the old
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you know the it's a common trope in marketing the the like well i was skeptical too but now i'm a
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believer you know but there's a way to do it and then there's a way to be like alex you're a lying
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piece of shit but you know what this works the way you're supposed to do it is i've tried other
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methylene blues exactly and i just you know it didn't do what that it promised yep i took yours
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i didn't think it was going to work because of my experience with other bad versions of this product
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not hey alex you suggested something and i thought it was snake oil every time i buy something from
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you it's bullshit right so i assumed that the next time i bought something from you it would also be
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bullshit or like let's take the buying away from it because i don't necessarily believe any of these
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you didn't buy any of the yeah absolutely i just am on this side of the business so i'm not an
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idiot i don't fall for your your shtick yeah um and so i wasn't expecting much but this actually
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was good there's plenty of ways to do it but you've very clearly given up the game alex is
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a lying piece of shit it was really funny when i was listening to this i was like the as soon as
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he said that i was like alex is not gonna like that
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and then when he came back from break and had to have this little heart to heart with him
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i was like yep that's exactly what i thought was gonna happen this feels very called into the
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general manager's office at a mcdonald's or something like that you know like hey you know
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you can't you can't tell people the food's bad yeah like you just can't like we're i understand
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maybe we're a fast food restaurant maybe you're you prefer to be at all these fancy restaurants
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but you know you can't tell our customers that their food they're buying is bad yeah yeah look
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i'm legitimizing you i'm telling everyone that you've been vindicated about everything i'm
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holding up my end of the bargain don't piss in my what are we doing my juice come on man yeah so um
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the the two of them they they uh they're they're fine with uh with the whole federalizing dc thing
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sure of course it's mostly i think i think a lot of their feelings come down to like the homeless
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are too cocky that'll happen trump's definitely taking the gloves off with things like federalizing
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dc yeah right on right on we should have pride in our nation's capital i don't think that homeless
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people would be punished but there's been a general breakdown in civility and an understanding
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of rule of law you know for anything well they've taken advantage and the ngo's that run the homeless
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make money off of it they have like barbecue pits out and they're just injecting drugs right in
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front of everybody and breaking into our houses austin's been turning into a hellhole by these i
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know i i heard you talking about it what about our rights i used to come to austin to see the
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grateful dead whenever they played here loved it you got great thing and austin was such a
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jewel i'm talking decades ago and even even 10 years ago i came here it all changed six years ago
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the ngo's for all the homeless to come here and now it's like an open toilet oh my god so
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uh yeah you i mean one of the things about alex's like consistency and you never hear him complaining
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about this kind of stuff six years seven years ago like before that he was totally chill um
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that is not true is a piece of shit they have barbecue pits why does it happen it just happens
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to everybody like every man turns into the some form of this piece of shit at some point like
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like it's when i was younger it was kind of cool to grow up in a dangerous place you know like you
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had you had something cool going on and then later on when you were out of that dangerous place you
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could be like i grew up in a dangerous place don't fucking treat me like i'm from the suburbs you
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know but you live in the suburbs and then you become alex jones being like there's too many
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homeless people in the suburbs like it just stop it put give him a place to live or something but
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just don't be an old man that bitches about it all the time right and i think that the mentality
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that they're approaching this with is so fraudulent because patrick's like i don't want the people to
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be punished but everything about society is punishing them right now and you want it to be
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worse on top of it right yeah a large portion of what they're experiencing is is societal punishment
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yeah and the way do you solve this is definitely not take away their barbecue pit or whatever there
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is a path that involves alleviating this reducing harm in hopes of reintegrating getting people's
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stability uh just that just that idea just that idea of like oh there's a schizophrenic in my
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backyard and i want them to be punished like at no point in time do you think like oh this is a
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person with a disease who needs treatment but what's fascinating about that is out of the
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other side of his mouth alex is pretending that trump is trying to get medical help for drug
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drug users and it can't possibly be a police state if he's trying to do that it's nonsense
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you like i don't want to help people but i don't want them to feel good it's a it's a pretend
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empathetic approach and what's really behind it is a desire to see these people who are in vulnerable
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positions and have essentially no power in society be crushed and yeah just taken out of his view
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i don't want to see this but it's not even that it's even more fucked up than that because if you
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were to just provide an actual fucking solution of like hey we got empty places we're gonna put
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them that we're just gonna get them out of your you're mad that you see them so now they have a
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place to live that's socialism they'd be like no that's not fair that they have communism
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it's and it's like it's a handout so you just want to view people in a worse situation than you
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and then whenever things get worse you want them to be even worse off than you are yeah
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as an excuse yeah yeah yep it's disgusting it's disgusting so we've got one last clip here because
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after he talks to uh patrick burn he has his gold sponsor in and this episode seems like a lot of
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paid programming yeah um but i thought that patrick burn admitted to something that alex
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should be really worried about in in this clip continuing to love this stuff is finally happening
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so i don't want to jinx it it's finally happening as it should it should have happened i thought
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january 21. i thought on january 20th flint said jokingly he said you know trump's gonna have you
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well paris skydive into the mall as he's giving his inauguration speech for certain things i did
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that aren't out yet i knew that was an exaggeration but i thought on january 20th i'd start getting
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some help you can't believe on january like 21st i was bouncing around on the roof of the catamaran
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off bahamas in a terrible storm because i was setting up to smuggle some people into the united
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states i got no help until about march 10th because there are so many people within the
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government what do you do everything trump is doing i wish trump would replace at least the top 1500
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with young there's all kinds of military yeah we need a real purge yeah there's people from green
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berets who go on to wall street they learn wall street and such they learn finance let them come
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and staff the treasury building let let we restaff the top of the government out of the green beret
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let's be clear we already have a globalist coup we're not gonna fix it playing patty cake hey bro
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are you a human trafficker what is happening yeah i was about to smuggle some people into the united
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states and i didn't have any help for obvious reasons how is that how why would you expect help
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when smuggling people into the united why would you expect help from the united states when
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smuggling people into the united states i i understand that there are you know some people
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you know there are circumstances where it's like refugees or something maybe you can make an
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argument for why it's not a you know hideously immoral act whatever you like to smuggle people
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sure but it is still human trafficking it's still the movement of people it's how it works yeah
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what are you talking about burn what are you are you a coyote a catamaran coyote is he out here
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what how did how do you find yourself in this situation all right so here i was trying to
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smuggle people in look i had an idea for overstock.com right shit got way out of hand
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he got way out of hand i'm i'm in love with a russian spy then i'm smuggling people in
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she didn't love me and what i want is for the green berets who went to wall street to rule the
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world all they have to do is read a book why not send the wall street people to green beret school
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probably because they'd die maybe yeah um so yeah i thought that was really silly and alex if uh
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he was paying any attention should have be like uh hey man uh what did you just admit
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how could you just say that and not get any follow-up questions about that what did you
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just i'm sorry this whole show is over yeah you and me you're smuggling people in why how
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who hired you are you hired do you do this for free where are you from is this check gonna clear
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um oh boy so yeah i thought that was silly and then the fact that it all just kind of pivots
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into like yeah you know what the military should be in charge of the government um is is crazy
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uh trump's actions in dc are totally fine yeah uh alex wants to purge the government and replace
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them with military everything's going great and he wants to invade mexico this does not
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insane sound at all like 1930s uh italy this is not no nothing at all like that um it's just
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like when i come back to over and over again is like trying to find the words that articulate
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how much this is comical for it to be what alex is doing yeah yeah yeah and i can't figure out how
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to just say what is self-evident yeah anybody who's ever paid attention to what his career
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means and what it's built on yeah would see this and be like this is a farce it it it
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let's what would i say it defies the word hyperbole there cannot be any hyperbole about
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a situation that is as extremely itself as it's possible to be right like you can't be like oh
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this would be like if alex said that it was okay to be in a police state yeah because this is alex
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saying it's okay to be in a police state like what else is there to say yeah yeah i don't know i
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will here's what here's what there is to say you can learn something from anybody and what we've
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learned today is that if you're gonna go try and drown somebody practice in a pool first that's a
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good piece of advice can i be honest with you what's that i really pictured him in a kiddie pool
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i did you i here's my imagination right because i know he's a rich guy so my imagination is he's
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basically got an olympic-sized pool in like his backyard and he's got a guy he's like hey buddy
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let's go for a swim together and they're going for a long swim and yeah and the big guy starts
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to get tired and he's like now i got him boom and he jumps on and then they the guy realizes that
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he can stand up in the water i um i picture burn as a bit of a cartoon character i see that and
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so my mind went to him and a big guy in a kiddie pool and wrestling him like ankle deep water
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yeah that works wearing like a propeller beanie yeah of course um i i i think he is a tremendous
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shithead but he has the potential to have some swings yep you know like there's there's an
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energy that we've missed of the i was planning to murder epstein i was planning to murder epstein is
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the best way to start any conversation yeah yeah there's another clip in here that i didn't cut out
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where he was explaining why the venezuelan government has a bounty out on him uh and like
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he has big stories like steve i love it i love it i want more of that energy 100 more of the fake
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butter let's do it we're getting back into shape so i was out here i was gonna murder epstein i had
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this whole huge plan and then i tried it out and it's hard to that's amazing that's just amazing
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again it was the cameras so amazing the cameras amazing so uh we'll be back and see how alex uh
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gets more and more acquainted with and uh falling in love with the police state but until then uh
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we have a website indeed we do it's knowledgefight.com yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo
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i'm dzx clark i am the mysterious professor oh yeah yeah and now here comes the sex robot andy
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in kansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan
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i love your work i love you
