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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene,
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot is we just got back from seeing Superman.
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Indeed we did.
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No spoilers.
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I don't want to ruin anything for anybody,
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but a dog factors heavily into this movie.
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Very important.
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I think that's in the ads.
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Yes.
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I don't think I'm ruining anything for anybody.
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I mean, for me, very high.
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You love a nice dog.
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Top tier part of the movie.
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Absolutely.
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So we went to go see this at the Alamo Draught House,
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and this is where my bright spot comes in.
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OK.
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I love sneaky waiters.
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OK.
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All right.
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I think the people who work there do such a great job,
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because they are tasked with doing something that is
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probably distracting and annoying to a lot of people,
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so they have to try and do their job and not be disruptive.
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I'm just amazed that they can pull it off.
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I tip my cap.
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It's very like when you see one of those plays where they have
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the six people who are dressed from head to toe in black,
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and you can just see them moving the sets in and out
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as though there was an insignificant blob changing
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things, they're that good.
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They were very good.
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Just tiptoeing around.
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Absolutely.
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You have to hunch over.
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And they were in plain clothes too.
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They weren't wearing uniforms with little name tags
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or anything, so you were like, maybe this person's
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going to sit next to me.
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But then they were gone in a flash.
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Yeah.
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And they just brought you popcorn.
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They just brought you popcorn.
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So anyway, that was fun.
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I like that.
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is very similar, based around the same place.
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I was talking to you.
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We were talking to you about it just a little bit,
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but I went to the bathrooms, and they were so clean.
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And this is in Wrigleyville.
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And it was like.
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Not a neighborhood known for clean.
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It transported me into stepping through the past,
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being in Wrigleyville, and just the sheer volume
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of shitty toilets in my history of Wrigleyville.
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And this one was perfect.
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And I don't know what my bright spot is.
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I don't know if my bright spot is that it used to be shitty
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or that it isn't shitty now.
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I bet you could find a lot of really bad bathrooms.
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Oh, I bet you could.
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They're still there.
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Yeah, no.
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You've got to find them.
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The theater is right across the street from sluggers.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I'm pretty sure those bathrooms would be torn up.
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Yeah, and listen, whatever improvements Wrigley may make
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or may not make, they're still going to be the troughs.
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Everybody's going to pee into a big trough.
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That's what's going to happen.
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At Wrigley itself, yes.
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That's what's going to happen till the day we all die.
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And I'd like to.
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This isn't a bright spot.
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It's not really a dark spot.
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It's just a let's correct the record kind of thing.
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I, after the movie, was like, hey, Jordan,
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let's go to the batting cages at sluggers.
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And you said no.
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Right.
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Now, we know from this podcast that you're from sports.
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I am from sports.
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And yet, I suggested a sport.
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Right.
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And you said no.
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OK.
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I want to go home.
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All right.
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All right.
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I put it to you that should I have agreed,
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we would not have followed through regardless.
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I guarantee we would have.
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If you had said, yeah, fuck yeah, let's do it.
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Easier to say now than it was back then.
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You know what?
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You might be right, but only because the Cubs game
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was just getting out.
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That is kind of the thing.
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Yeah.
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If the Clark Street hadn't been flooded with people,
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I do think I would have been like, no, fuck you.
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You agreed.
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Let's go.
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Let's go to the batting cage.
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I think if we had both known how many people were going
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to be just in the way, we might have just been like,
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let's go there and wait for people to clear out.
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Maybe.
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I would have been fine with that.
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If we didn't have an episode to record, too,
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that's another factor.
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The fact that it was about 45 minutes ago also
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has something to do with it.
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Yeah.
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But you don't love sports as much as you say you do.
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That's all I want to do.
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I'm an old man.
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I'm an old man, and death comes to us all.
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Perhaps it's come to me sooner than I would appreciate.
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Take some swings.
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Loosen it up.
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Maybe.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about Superman.
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And June 23, 2025, Alex is in a tough spot.
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Much like Superman at some point in the movie.
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At some point in the movie.
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Everyone knows there's going to be a tough spot for him.
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He has to rise above something.
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I mean, all movies essentially have at least one conflict.
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Right.
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And Alex is in that conflict.
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He's in the belly of the whale, as it were.
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Right.
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Because he killed Gene Hackman.
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Yes.
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America is still in an active civil war
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that he has not told us has ended.
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True.
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And Iran and Israel are fighting.
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And now Trump has attacked Israel.
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Or attacked Iran, excuse me.
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We had avoided World War III, but now World War III has begun.
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It has to have.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is in a tough, tough situation.
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Well, we all are, in a way.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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And we'll see how he navigates that.
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But first, let's take a little moment
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to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, hello, Zefi Wefi.
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This is your shout out coming to you directly from your sashi.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Jordan, but I go by Stone Cold Stephen F. Austin.
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Love the show and enthusiasm.
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Keep it up.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And shout out to Kalo.
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You are stupid.
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You are stinky.
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And your crocodile style is missed terribly from Owen.
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Not that one.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to D-Dog from Phoenix.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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So we start off on the 23rd.
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And Trump has bombed Iran.
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And Alex is kind of clinging on to some,
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Maybe this is just him taking out the nuclear stuff so Israel doesn't have as much of a
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reason to want to.
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It could be a peaceful bombing.
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It is possible that this is a bomb that will inspire peace as we all know bombs have done
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historically.
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Or at very least, I really don't want Trump to want regime change.
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It would be nice if he would just pull it back.
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Or at least if his goal isn't to do regime change.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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The last 25 years of US history has created a sour tone around the idea of regime change.
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Yeah, our entire adult lives might have had something to do with it.
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Unfortunately, Trump took to social media and Alex has had his balloon burst.
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It was 11, almost 12 days ago that Israel started its bombardment of Iran.
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We were all told it was just to get their nuclear sites.
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It wasn't about regime change.
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And three or four days later, the guy really running the show, Benjamin Netanyahu said,
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no, it's regime change.
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And then yesterday, Trump came out and said, it's not politically correct to use the term
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regime change.
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But if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there
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be a regime change?
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Make Iran great again.
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And now to top that off, Trump just threatened Russia with our nuclear submarine launched
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cruise missiles and said, we've got nuclear weapons delivery systems 20 years advanced
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over every other nation and said Kremlin spokesperson and former president of Russia, Minyedyev,
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better not be talking about nuclear weapons when he says nations are moving, including
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North Korea, who's announced they are planning to do it and they do what they say they're
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going to do, nuclear weapons.
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Putin has come out and issued a warning.
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Kremlin warns that other nations ready to give Iran nukes dangerous escalations begun,
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says Putin.
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Oh, man, that sounds like shit.
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That sounds bad.
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That's rough.
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That's rough.
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It seems like somebody is at fault for not doing what it is they want him to do, I guess.
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Right.
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I mean, Trump saying why is regime change a dirty word?
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Hey, maybe on new crush.
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For all of the reasons that it is.
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This is bad.
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Yeah.
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Alex is having a real moment where the person that you've sold us is not this person.
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You know, like, yeah, the audience has to recognize like this is way out of step with
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what we would have expected someone with the knowledge, with the awareness that Alex has
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said Trump has.
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This is not how they would respond to this.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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It is a like it feels like when you're when you got to think about we just saw a movie.
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So like when you got to think of popcorn in the microwave and you had it as an initial
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pop pop pop, those are the people going, maybe I've been conned.
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Right.
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And now as time goes on, we're experiencing a greater number of pops as things go along.
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But you know, there's always those straggler pops that refuse to become popcorn, slash
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admit that they were conned.
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So we're just trying to figure out where it is we are on that.
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Yeah.
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There's some people are destined to remain a colonel.
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Yeah.
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Are we Bert's colonels?
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Is that what Alex is going to be?
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Will he have Bert's colonel?
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No, he's a lieutenant colonel.
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He's a nice.
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Well done.
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So I do think that there's something to be said for Alex, and that is that he says things.
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And in this next clip, he says, this is bullshit.
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You know, I can't really argue with bullshit.
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I don't care.
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And I don't believe Alex.
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He's not a sincere person.
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But can't really argue with bullshit.
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So that's where we are.
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You can say you're for bombing Iran.
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You can say you're against it.
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And Trump did always say he didn't want to have a nuclear program, but he wasn't for
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a full war and regime change.
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And so he could say, hey, I didn't lie.
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I'm the peace president.
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And he's certainly been doing a good job trying to do this clip with Russia until now.
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But it is not truthful for a campaign promise to now endorse regime change.
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So my integrity and the truth always comes first.
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Does it?
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It makes me physically sick to see all the great things Trump's doing domestically and
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with the economy and sovereignty and going after all the leftist brainwashing and trying
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to break our will.
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I mean, it's beautiful.
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And the deportations and the sex traffickers being arrested, I mean, mass arrest all over
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the place, all this good news.
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And then right in the middle of it, a trillion pound turd in the punch bowl.
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It was very obvious we were going to end up in a place like this because Alex has already
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been in this place multiple times.
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He looks like he's finally realizing that this Trump guy sure isn't acting like the
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guy Alex has been pretending he was.
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Strangely, it seems like a lot of these moments come about because Trump has done something
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that's against Russia's foreign policy objectives, which makes sense because as we've determined,
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America first loves Russia.
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There would be a lot of pleasure in basking in the I told you so type feelings, but none
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of this even matters to someone like Alex because he isn't just now realizing that Trump
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sucks.
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He's always known, but his desire for things like terrorizing LGBTQ folk and immigrants
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that always outweighed his embarrassment at pretending that Trump wasn't a piece of shit.
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When he has these moments, it's generally because the thing that Trump did was so egregious
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that there's no real spin for it, and he just needs to punt.
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You can't try to tell the audience that Trump isn't in favor of regime change in Iran when
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he's posting on social media about how he's into regime change in Iran.
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If Alex ever believed that Trump was a good guy who should be in office, him posting something
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like this should be seriously a cause for reflection because Alex would have to recognize
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that he's super wrong.
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And wrong on a level where your analysis might be a public danger, so you might need to rethink
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really basic pieces of it.
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We've seen this go down before, that typically Alex will give this little performance about
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how his principles matter so much to him and he just can't go along with this.
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Then shit will cool off and he'll remember how critical Trump is to advancing the white
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nationalist agenda, and things will go back to him loving Trump or I'll call good things
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good and bad things bad or whatever.
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Status quo will return.
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One of these times you have to think that he'll finally have had enough.
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But here on the 23rd this really feels like the same on again off again style relationship
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that he has with Trump.
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It's just at the point where there's no way he can, with a straight face, defend this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's a little, okay.
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So when you're dealing with cults, right, there's the initial period where you got the
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charismatic leader, but then a lot of times what'll happen is eventually some of the crimes
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that you get when you commit when you're a cult leader will catch up with you and you'll
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wind up going to jail.
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But the cult might just stick around and there's somebody who steps in to the power vacuum
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and gets to say, oh, the cult leader totally told me we need to do this.
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And that's what you got to do with Trump.
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Trump needs to be in prison and you got to be like, oh, this guy, Trump, he was telling
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me that we got to go do these things that coincidentally we all wanted to do.
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Sure.
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Or him be dead.
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It would be convenient.
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Yeah, I mean, if you've got a charismatic leader, you kill him almost immediately and
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then you go from there.
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Right.
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Because the alternative of what you need to do is do another tea party.
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You need to do the tea party all over again and turn Trump into Bush and then create your
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own real right wing that Alex could do that.
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He's done it before.
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Can't see that turning into a downward spiral that takes all of us with it.
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No, but that's the other way to get rid of the baggage of Trump would be to make him
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a neo con or something like that.
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No, he's much better as a martyr than a living thing.
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Yeah.
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And this is the difficulty.
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That's the problem.
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So Trump has bombed Iran and now we're waiting for Iran's response.
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Alex doesn't know if like, what are they going to do?
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Is it going to be like a nuke?
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Are we all dead?
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I mean, it would be an interesting turn.
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Yeah.
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He's straight up like reflecting on air.
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How long would it take for a missile to reach the US if it went over the North Pole?
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Like he's like, well, might have half an hour left.
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Yeah, I believe because I wrote about this, I believe it's 45 minutes from somewhere to
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LA.
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Okay.
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So you and Alex were in similar heads.
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Yeah.
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So seeing a plot point is like, everybody says that you've got like 45 minutes.
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No matter where you are.
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Yeah.
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That's good to know.
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Yeah.
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So Alex doesn't know exactly what's going to happen, but something's going to happen.
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And then it turns out that Iran has decided to launch missiles at US bases in Qatar.
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Okay.
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Reuters now reporting CIA MI6.
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Iran launches six missiles towards US bases in Qatar.
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The fact that Qatar went on lockdown and closed its airspace first hours and hours ago, and
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that now that's where the missiles are going, points towards a backroom deal for face-saving
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and the Iranians may be getting ready to capitulate.
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I'm not saying that's about to happen.
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And if Trump can pull this off, I'll still be pissed off that he went back on what he
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said he would do for the first time pretty much ever.
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And it means the neo-cons can manipulate us in the future.
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But Trump's argument is that'll be a show of tricks to the Russians and the Chinese.
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But if these missiles do not hit the base, the big giant air base we have there, then
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it means that the mullahs have choked.
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At least for now.
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So Iran launched missiles at a US base in Qatar in retaliation for Trump's strike, and
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it went about how one might expect.
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US air defense is pretty competent, so the missiles were mostly intercepted.
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To minimize civilian casualties, Iran warned Qatar, and Trump even said that he got early
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notice and then called the attack, quote, very weak and was glad that Iran, quote, got
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it all out of their system.
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In the sense that it didn't turn into an all-out war, that's a positive, but it's still really
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crazy kinds of brinksmanship, and Qatar definitely wasn't happy about it.
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After the attack, Trump said that Iran and Israel had agreed to a ceasefire, which seemed
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to be a surprise to Iran.
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They hadn't agreed but were willing to not retaliate if Israel stopped their attacks,
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and this peace held for a matter of hours before there were accusations flying in both
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directions of attacks.
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Trump got all mad about it and said, quote, we basically have two countries that have
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been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
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And he said that both sides violated the ceasefire, but it was back in effect and everything was
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fine.
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Great.
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So things are fine.
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I mean, it is nice to hear the first honest thing he said about the Middle East, which
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is yeah, nobody knows what the fuck they're doing.
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So that's fair.
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That's nice too.
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We're all in agreement there.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if it's right the way he means it.
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Probably not.
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Probably not.
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But there's a larger sense of this is not going well.
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And if it was, we wouldn't be here.
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Shit's bad.
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Yeah.
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So Alex covers this news of the attack of Iran responding, attacking his base in Qatar.
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And I noticed that his sourcing is interesting.
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We are back live into hour number two.
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There are reported, and you can see the video, ongoing attacks with ballistic missiles over
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the main US military Navy and Air Force Base in the Middle East, Qatar.
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All the other bases are on alert.
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There's reports of missiles coming in and hitting bases in Iraq.
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We are tracking that as it unfolds.
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We're getting a Nick Sordore post with a corporate media report that they're saying that none
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of the missiles, according to the Pentagon, hit any of the US bases.
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We don't know that's because the Patriot battery stopped them or because the Iranians, as they
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did in 2020, fired them into the desert or in an unpopulated area.
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I want to bring sharp attention to what's going on here.
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Alex is covering this unfolding situation where there may be a world war starting, and
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the source he's pointing to is something that Nick Sordore posted on Twitter.
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If you're watching Alex's show, then you might just think to yourself, I can just follow
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Nick Sordore on Twitter and get the exact same information that Alex has.
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This show really is just watching a guy read Twitter and say, I knew that was going to
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happen, and at a certain point, you can just cut out the middleman.
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You can read Twitter yourself and tell yourself that you knew that that was going to happen
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and get about the same kind of juice out of it.
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But if you go a step deeper, you'll notice that Nick Sordore's tweet is just him posting
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a clip from the corporate news.
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If you wanted all of the information that's available here, you could just watch the corporate
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news.
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You're just getting the exact same product with layers of bullshit editorial spin added
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on top of it by people who are desperate to pretend that they're not just stealing
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contact from actual journalists.
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Without the corporate news actually doing the work here, Nick wouldn't have this clip
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to post on his Twitter with his narrative attached, and then Alex wouldn't have a tweet
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to cover on his show.
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They should tip CNN is what I'm saying.
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They deserve a cut.
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I mean, yeah.
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It's pathetic the way that these people just rely on the thing that they decry so much.
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I guess they're just parasites, really.
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They don't make anything.
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They just try and extract what value and wealth they can while everybody else waits for them
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to die, I guess.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what to tell you.
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It's very strange.
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Fucking lying media.
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The lies of the lying media now, the corporate media, is in this post from Nick Sordore.
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We needed Bob Saget back in the day because people had to videotape things on an actual
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magnetic thing and then send it in the mail to another human being who would value it,
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and then maybe it would make it on TV.
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We needed that.
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We don't need that now.
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There's no point in Saget here, and Alex is basically the Saget of bullshit Nazism.
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But the problem is that there's a difference between someone getting in the head with a
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football and news.
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There's entertainment value even if you fake a home video, an America's Funniest Home Video.
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So that's fine.
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If you just have any random ding-dong just sending videos in, you're going to end up
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with a lot of sasquatch news.
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And that's why Nick Sordore relies on the mainstream media to actually do the work of
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journalism and he can take their things so it's not just a bunch of sasquatch videos.
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Anyway, Alex, I think that there's an indication here of why he shouldn't cover breaking news.
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It's just not a good thing for him to do.
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Any number of reasons, but yes.
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I think this clip highlights some of it.
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Reports of three direct hits on the airbase in Qatar.
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Al, you need.
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Well, that's not good news if that's true.
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Let's hear the audio of that clip when you get it ready.
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Boy, I hope that's not true.
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Great.
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I hope that's not true.
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I would like more news anchors to receive breaking news and just go, well shit, fuck
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me, that sounds terrifying.
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I hope that's not true.
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Anyways, we'll see you right next after Target commercials.
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Here's a thing I saw on Twitter.
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Hope that's bullshit.
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Oh boy.
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Hope that's not true.
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Anyways, we'll see you later.
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Let's go to the weather.
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That's not a good method of news.
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It's raining outside.
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Not outside my house.
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I hope that's not true.
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I think that there's a reason that you want a little bit of neutrality, professionalism.
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Maybe a little detachment even.
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Right, out of a person who may be reporting breaking news.
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Discipline is key.
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So Alex is just reading Twitter and I realize that a lot of this content is just him stressing
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himself out reading tweets.
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It's crazy.
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There's no need for this.
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Bahrain and Kuwait bases now have active air sirens going off.
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Now is that in response to thinking they may be about this truck or is this accurate?
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Is he?
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And it's shorter, only goes off what the Iranians are saying.
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Then it would look like this is a face-saving situation.
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Again, if you're a new lister and just tuned in, Trump is on record and the Iranians confirmed
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it was all face-saving in 2020 of the Soleimani getting killed when they launched those 18
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missiles at the base in Iraq and had them a couple miles away hit sand dunes.
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I don't know.
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But if they hit real targets and people get killed, you know Trump's going to escalate.
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And that means they decided to escalate.
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And last week when he gave him two weeks, they said, nope, screw you.
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So that's why he went ahead and greenlit it.
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And I said on Thursday, I said, I don't believe they're going to back down at this point.
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So I don't know.
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I am on the edge of my seat.
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This is absolute torture.
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So stop.
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You don't need to do this.
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This is not like why, but why it's fascinating to this show.
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This exact show is such an interesting snapshot because it is just a guy kind of making himself
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nervous.
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Yeah.
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It's yeah.
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There isn't information that's being added to the, like, you're not getting good analysis
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of Qatar, Iran, Israel, Trump, any of it.
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Just watching a guy kind of be like, maybe the world's going to blow up.
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Maybe it's not.
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Maybe it's face saving.
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Maybe we're all dead, but maybe we're not.
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Who knows?
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Let's check Nick Soretor's Twitter.
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It's stupid.
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I, I, okay.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So listening to this feels like I'm watching a mouse, right?
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And it's programmed.
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If it presses a button, it'll get a little shock.
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And at first you're like, oh, this shock is, I don't like it, but it keeps pressing the
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button.
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It never stops pressing the button because the only thing that it lives for is the tiny
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little shock.
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That one little shock gets it to the next little shock.
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And that is what it feels like.
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Listen to Alex Jones.
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Like, he's just going like, oh, they're doing this.
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Okay.
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Next one.
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Oh, they're doing this.
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Give me another tweet.
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Give me another tweet.
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They're doing this.
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But then tomorrow, none of it happened.
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No, no.
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Right?
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Like what are you doing?
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I don't know.
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I mean, the civil war is still looming in the background.
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Alex doesn't care about that.
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God damn it.
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Take your daughter fishing for once.
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It'd be nice.
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Jesus.
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So, you know, I think a lot of this is Twitter.
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You obviously just scroll on Twitter, finding things that work and then responding to them.
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But at a certain point, more intel is coming in.
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And that's very exciting.
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But it's still taking shape.
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So Alex needs to do a plug and then he'll get to that intel.
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The crew keeps telling me, hey, am I going to give the number out boss?
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You're going to take calls.
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Oh yes.
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I'm just a little distracted with the air attacks and how important it is.
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I'm still collating it.
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Bringing that marina fall information, please.
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These guys are the best at just scooping all the latest out of my crew and them as well,
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but I'm still collating the good news.
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I just got hoping it is good.
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It's looking good.
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It's looking good.
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It's looking good.
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It's looking good.
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Is it looking good?
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Alex has seen another tweet from Mario Nafal that he's like, this is good.
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This is his other Intel.
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His other Intel that's coming in is another guy on Twitter.
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This is horrifying.
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This is horrifying.
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It is so stupid.
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Now if you want to be driven crazy to the point where you're going to jump off the balcony.
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I do.
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Okay.
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Listen to Alex say this.
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Okay.
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Because during the break I was looking at some of the comments on X going through videos.
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I love to see people say I find lots of Intel.
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I would have thought of.
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They're like, what's Jones talking about?
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What do you mean Trump made a deal with Iran to do limited strikes?
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That's made up.
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Just dealing with the level of the public that is just now getting politically involved
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and militarily informed.
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It's like talking to two year olds or it's like you're an auto mechanic that's been doing
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it 50 years.
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You're a master mechanic and then somebody comes in that has never any mechanic work
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and you're telling them how things work and they're like, you don't know that.
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How do you know how that works?
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It's just frustrating people.
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Yeah.
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People are stupid on Twitter.
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That's what you're going to find when you do.
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All you do is like cruise around on Twitter, try and find hot tweets, find comments on
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tweets to try and give yourself an angle you can steal for something.
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Get them Intel.
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Now, of course, you're going to run into a bunch of stupid people saying stupid shit.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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Why?
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Why would a 50 year old man be complaining about this?
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I mean, it's it's not unlike.
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Oh, man.
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Everybody into these places I go to, they're all fucking demons.
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They're all a bunch of assholes.
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Every time I go to these places, they're all about.
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Now, admittedly, I only go to hell.
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That could be I could have something to do with it.
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I could be going to a place where only the thing that I'm complaining about exists.
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Maybe I shouldn't be on comment boards.
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Everybody at this Klan rallies are fucking racist.
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There's a bunch of racists up in here.
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I'm just interested in their tax policy.
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This person over here, he's got good intel, but he's got his face covered with the mask.
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I think that this is just so sad.
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And what I love about this is the stakes of what's going on is that Trump has bombed Iran
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and Iran is responding.
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So there is a real tension point right here in the world, in the real world.
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And Alex's show, as he's covering this, is just dicking around on Twitter and then whining
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about how people don't respect him enough on Twitter and how people are dumb on Twitter.
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It's pathetic.
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The juxtaposition of this really highlights how stupid he is.
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It feels like he uses the YouTube comments as his thumb sucking.
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He's sucking his thumb.
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There's a lot of stuff going on.
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He's anxious, but also he's happy now.
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But also he could be anxious at any moment again.
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News can change that fast.
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So he goes to the comments section to hear people go like, you were right all the time,
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Alex.
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And he's like, yeah, I was right all the time.
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But then sometimes people go, what the fuck are you talking about?
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And then not even his thumb sucking helps him anymore.
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This is sad.
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I think there's a part of it that is that self soothing.
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And then I think that there's another part of it that is kind of a dark reflection of
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the way that the media needs to make a horse race out of an election.
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It has to be 50-50, even if you're reporting on things honestly, it should not be.
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Yeah, we shouldn't even be talking about it.
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Let's face it.
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Right.
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The media requires that or else it becomes like you're obviously too biased or whatever.
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Never gone wrong before.
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So the dark reflection of that for Alex is that simultaneously Iran has to be nuking
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us and it's face saving.
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Both of these things have to be 50-50 true or else like what is the show?
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If Iran isn't doing anything, then Trump is in bed with this kind of war theater.
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That's not good.
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If you land on that.
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No.
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And the other side of it is they're not coordinating and Iran is about to nuke all the U.S.
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You should really be terrified.
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All the sleeper cells are about to be activated in the United States.
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Your mom's dead.
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Both of these things have to be true because both have to be false.
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Yes.
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And Alex needs that.
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And that's what's preserved by like, let's go on Twitter and find intel.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's why I've found a lot of people like to read books, you know, instead of just scrolling
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through Twitter as far as information is concerned.
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But maybe I'm wrong.
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That's because it's actually like, I don't know.
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On the scale of information to not information, information is better than not information.
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Tends to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think that there's a little bit of a infuriating element to Alex complaining about
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how stupid people are on Twitter when he's just stealing Twitter shit to yell about on
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a show.
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Yeah, it's very frustrating, as his words were.
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But when he starts complaining about Ted Cruz because of, he did that interview with Tucker
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and embarrassed himself by not knowing the population of Iran and various other things.
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Sure.
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Alex says something about Ted Cruz that he should punch himself.
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Let's hear it.
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Okay.
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I want to show one more thing that I'm going to your calls because this just shows the
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mindlessness and the propaganda of people like Ted Cruz.
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When, when, when Tucker Carlson interviewed him last week and was like, do you know about
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their weapons systems, you know, about their population, you know, about who the Alliance
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is already.
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He's like, I don't need to know any of that.
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I just know they're bad.
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Well, do you know their population?
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No.
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Well, it's three times the size of Iraq, three times the population.
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And Ted Cruz post Tucker Carlson interviewing Luke Skywalker.
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What is the population of the Death Star?
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And Jay Dyer says Ted Cruz has to appeal to his evangelical boomer audience using children's
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sci-fi because that's the maturity level of evangelical boomers.
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It really is.
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So leaving aside the very obvious...
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Sorry.
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What were you going to say?
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You were going to say something was very obvious.
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Was that your Chewbacca impression?
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It could have been.
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I mean, I've been so puerile and infantile to make a children's sci-fi reference that
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I wouldn't do it.
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I mean, this is, this is really him insulting his own audience and his own methodology devastatingly.
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I think that there's something deeply, deeply, obviously awful about that.
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But also let's think about this for a second.
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What is Alex doing?
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He's reporting on something Jay Dyer tweeted about something Ted Cruz tweeted about an
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interview Tucker did.
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This is like fourth hand coverage of an editorial interview.
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This is crazy.
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They're so obsessed with Twitter.
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The idea is essentially supposed to be, I am creating, or not creating, but I am curating
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the information that you receive.
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Thus, I am in control of the conversation.
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The conversation that you have will be based around the information that I give you.
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If you all, I guess, subsume that into, well, now I'm just another person on Twitter.
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I just have a, you can just watch me.
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Unlike other people on Twitter who tweet things and you have to read those words, I am going
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to tweet things at Twitter and you can see me.
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That's not anything.
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That's nothing.
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That's emptiness.
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No.
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I think that the way that I would compare it is like, okay, at the bottom of this is
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an interview that Tucker Carlson did with Ted Cruz.
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If you're covering Jay Dyer tweeting something Ted Cruz tweeted about the interview itself,
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you don't know what happened in that interview.
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You can't really speak competently or anything about the actual interview.
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In the same way that I could tell you, Immanuel Kant sucks.
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You don't know anything, but you could just say, hey, he sucks.
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Yeah, he does.
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You don't know anything about Kant though from me telling you he sucks.
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Yeah, I know he sucks.
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The primary piece of it you still have no familiarity with.
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You're getting no actual information except for, I think Kant sucks.
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Alex is just reporting to us that Jay Dyer thinks Ted Cruz sucks and that Jay Dyer apparently
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thinks the way that Alex talks to his own audience is infantile.
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Even back in the day when Twitter was Twitter, the Twitter that we remember from things,
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it would still be too late.
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You're already fourth in line for the conversation's already gone.
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The conversation's moved on.
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You're too late.
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What are you doing wasting your own time?
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So Alex is talking about this Jay Dyer tweet about Ted Cruz's tweet about Tucker's interview.
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I want to explode.
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I want to just explode.
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You might like this then.
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This might be a soothing balm for you.
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A soothing balm?
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Yeah, because Alex says something that I think is one of the craziest things he's ever said
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on air.
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All right.
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I took a shower this morning.
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No, it's crazier.
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Tucker spent years and years in the Middle East.
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That's been his beat.
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And when he was 17, sent down to Iran, Contra, to be with the Contras by his dad, high level
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CIA.
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And then Tucker got refused entry into the CIA.
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But the point is, is that he's been working for the guys, the bad guys, but he admits
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he woke up 15 years ago and is now on our team and came to town 14 years ago to apologize
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to me.
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He's on our team 100%.
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Wait, so Tucker is CIA?
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What are you talking about?
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He just outed a CIA agent.
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How insane could you possibly be?
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Oh my God.
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Yeah, so if any of that's true, Alex should probably be killed, right?
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I mean, like he's, he's, he, if Tucker is a CIA agent, Alex has blown his, his cover.
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Alex has committed, I guess, reasonably treason.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Do you remember what happened with Valerie Plame?
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Right.
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Okay.
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Right.
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But if I'm, if I'm the CIA, right.
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And Alex Jones is outed an agent, I go like, well, this is the best job I've ever taken.
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Sure.
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I'm a CIA agent.
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It doesn't help your case if I am or I am not.
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You mean if you're Tucker?
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No.
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Yeah.
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If you're Alex, if Alex is calling you a CIA agent and you are a CIA agent, you're like,
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yeah, yeah, come on.
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What does it matter?
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You can't do anything to me.
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Well, yeah, the source that this is coming from is, is, is not, you're not endangered
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by this, this revelation.
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What?
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And, but even so, even if your idea is this guy was recruited into the CIA, wink, wink,
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he was, he was rejected, wink, wink into the CIA.
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And then he comes to me.
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And he apologizes.
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Okay.
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First off, let's go with just how many layers of, okay.
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He was rejected, which to you means that he was accepted.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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So he apologized, which to you should mean he is still in the CIA manipulating you.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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You'd have to be pretty fucking dumb to not think that like, oh, this person is a running
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a game.
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You're the least trustworthy person in the world if you're Tucker and you're also lying
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about being a CIA agent.
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And second, like, uh, uh, his dad was high level.
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Absolutely.
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It's something that he's been in since he was a kid when he was sent to Iran Contra.
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I mean, like, even if I think of Tucker as a untrustworthy person, even without him also
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having an underlying lie that controls everything he does.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So then to add on top of that, the like, oh, and also he's probably an agent of the government
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who has been tracking me and following me for my entire adult career.
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Tucker's my handler.
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Right?
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How is that not what he just said?
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You are saying that as if it was a joke, but I think one to one that could be distilled
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as to what he literally just said.
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No, it's not.
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But it's, it's the kind of thing that a conspiratorial brain would come up with having heard that
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if you believe these things are true and you're like, uh, Hey, uh, what's going on here?
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Like in the same way that Alex says that his dad was like in MK ultra.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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It's like, okay, you, you know that, uh, the conspiratorial angle on this is going to be
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that you are the child of Mengele.
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I mean, yeah, no, I'm just saying that it's reasonable if I have a friend who I think
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joined to the CIA and was, he's lying to me about it, is literally coming to me and lying
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to me about it.
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How do I then go like, oh, well this apology is honest.
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I think the implication here is that Alex is pretending that Tucker has told him that
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he's CIA.
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So Tucker's not lying to him.
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He's lying to everybody else.
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But that's part of the manipulation because he's in the city.
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You can't trust him.
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Yeah.
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No, here's what I struggle with.
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I don't think this happened.
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I mean, I know that Tucker did come to Austin and do an interview with Alex where they sort
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of settled their beef, uh, a bit in advance of Trump.
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It was, it was before that.
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So I know that that did happen when Alex is referring to as he came and apologized to
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me.
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I don't, I don't think there's a revelation of him being CIA.
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I don't think that part is real.
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But if it did happen, if he's telling the truth or if he's lying, Tucker, in that situation,
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don't trust it.
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You can't.
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You cannot.
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Because if he's lying to you, then there's a reason he's lying to you about being in
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the CIA.
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He has some kind of agenda.
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Absolutely.
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If he's not lying to you and that he is in the CIA, then this telling you it is probably
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part of the whole thing.
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Lying is a layer of the whole thing.
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There's only one thing.
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Either way, Alex is really good at respecting privacy, keeping secrets.
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Here's another, here's a problem that I have that I feel like keeps popping up is Iran
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contract does not seem to be a problem at all to anybody anymore.
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It is just a historical thing that happened.
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It's not like, Hey, the people involved were lying and the whole thing and it's against
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the law and all this stuff and they never face consequences for it.
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Like we're all just peace layer.
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RIP buddy.
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Hard rice and soft rice.
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And also Larry, Larry Nichols, the Iran contract has become like MK ultra.
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It's become such a generalized term that like, what are you even talking about?
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They sold guns for Coke to sell for guns.
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I don't even know what their plan was really.
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Rice.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Jesus Christ.
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So in this next clip, Alex says something that I think will be fun to revisit later
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because I think that it's fun.
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It's probably going to age well.
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It's going to age great.
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I bet.
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And anybody saying we should shut up is very un-American.
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I get lots of, you need to move to wherever you need to get out of here.
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You're a manga imposter.
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Yeah, right.
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I was fighting the new world order and most of you are in diapers and we're on record
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with the polls.
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They didn't battle around States.
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Roger Stone has talked about it.
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Even the Democrats admit it's why they hate me that my audience, you, the activist in
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the battleground States, put him over the top in 2016.
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So we took Trump, this broadcast, you, it's not just me, literally it's you.
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You carried Trump over the finish line into the end zone.
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He belongs to us.
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He's ours.
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Oh boy.
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He's ours.
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I take credit for me and my audience made him the president.
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We installed him and thank God he's going to reveal everything about Epstein.
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Yes.
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We got him elected.
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Something that I am proud to say, despite knowing and in fact having a best friend who
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is convicted of tampering with said election that we were in charge of and take responsibility
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for it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's cool.
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It's cool.
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This is not going to be something that might become a little bit of an anchor around his
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neck.
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I mean, I just want to associate myself with the guy who does everything I say he's not
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doing.
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Mm hmm.
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So, uh, Alex does take some calls and he gets a call from a guy who's like, I think Trump
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might be a lizard person.
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I'm in.
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I think lizard people, conspiracies, it's time they come back.
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Yeah.
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So this guy is like, this is not the same Trump.
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He's been taken over.
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Fantastic.
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Right.
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And I think something clicks inside Alex's mind.
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All right.
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I think this works.
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We got to walk in.
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We got a fake Trump.
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We got to walk in Trump.
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All right.
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Now we're talking, kick this into a new gear.
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Yeah.
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So Alex decides maybe they've replaced Trump.
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Let's see what we can do with it.
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All right.
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I've been thinking about saying this and I'm not held back on it because I'm hiding something.
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I've known about this for a while and I've got more information on it.
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And you pretty much have already seen what I'm talking about.
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Once I say it, you'll know everything because you already knew it.
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But Trump is not a bad person.
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This one isn't, but under all the incredible pressure he's been put under.
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There are different types of people and there are people, the more you mess with them, the
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stronger they get and the meaner they get.
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And instead of cracking down, they kind of crack up.
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Not crack up like in pieces, they transform.
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And Trump, you know, is way calmer, way more focused.
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Seems like he doesn't care in these press conferences.
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He doesn't care when the media attacks him anymore.
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He literally got to the point of not giving an F is what you heard last year in July.
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And all the pressure on his family and all the endless hours and all the work.
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And he definitely is a different person.
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And I've had it described to me by people very close to him.
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And let's just say he is beyond confident at this point.
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He was already really confident before, but Trump thinks he's invincible.
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There you have it.
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Because what do you think?
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You know, cultivate this idea of being dangerous and reckless and hard to be predicted, unpredictable.
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That's bad.
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That's bad.
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So this caller had called in and talked about like maybe lizard person, that kind of shit.
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And Alex is tiptoeing here.
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He's saying Trump's a different person.
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Maybe he's been transformed.
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He's changed.
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He's changed.
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He's calm.
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He feels like he's invincible, which all of these things sound megalomaniacal and like
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we should probably 5150 the president.
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No, no, no, no.
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That doesn't sound true at all.
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But I thought, okay, Alex is when I was listening to this, the impression that I got was Alex
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is trying to smooth off the rough edges of what this caller has just said.
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He's trying to make it like, all right, we're not going to go lizard person, but we're going
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to go with something along the lines of Trump has a different energy.
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Something shifted.
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Maybe they kidnapped his dog or something like that.
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It seems like it's still within the realm of like not supernatural.
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It seems now maybe I'm just boring.
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Maybe I'm just boring.
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Maybe I'm lazy because it feels to me like the low hanging fruit is I wouldn't ask anybody
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Trump's age to do anything, let alone run the world.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't be like, hey, could you go down to the store and grab something very light
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within your ability to count?
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No, I can go do that myself.
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I definitely don't want you to run the whole world.
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He should be relaxing in his later years.
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Go elsewhere.
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Yeah, go another place.
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This is not the time for that.
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That's true.
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But what if, what if, now this is going to be tough to hear.
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What if Trump has been engaging too much with the flesh?
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Do I think Trump has been taking a godly amount of Viagra to fuck as many strange women
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as he possibly can?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Oh, okay.
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You're taking, you're taking, your mind's in the gutter.
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Oh, I am.
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When you engage with the flesh, it's not engaging with the spiritual enough.
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Not being like connected with God.
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You are just your meat.
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So does he drink too many Diet Cokes?
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Probably.
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Okay.
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That sounds right.
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I don't know.
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But he's doing that.
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And you have ended up getting him a demon.
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And it's such a big thing.
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I need to write notes about it.
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I'm thinking about it for about a month.
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I've been thinking about talking about this, but the reason I haven't talked about it is
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I don't know what I think about it yet because it's such a big deal.
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Like, I'm gonna go to break and come back.
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I don't want to liken myself to speak.
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You've all been through it under the attacks, under the demonization, under my family being
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attacked, all the things that went on.
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I was just kind of fighting the globalist, doing my job, believing in humanity, but never
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wanted to really turn on the juice and really be aggressive.
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It was almost like it was embarrassing to me if I really leveled up.
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And I just made the decision last year to level up.
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And now I knew what would happen.
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Now it's happening again.
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And now my discernment and my aggression and my prowess is intensifying.
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And I can see where this goes.
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It's not satanic, but it's the flesh.
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And the satanic can interface with the flesh when you turn on too much of your innate berserker,
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barbarian, Viking power.
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And I'll just say it, that's what it is.
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So it's very dangerous.
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And you can tell Trump's jacked into the Holy Spirit more than ever and the flesh more than
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ever.
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It's quite the mix.
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It's quite the mix.
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What?
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Thank God he's not using Star Wars analogies.
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He's talking like real mature intellectual stuff.
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Yeah.
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You know, there's that old, you know, like, whatever gets you there.
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You know, that kind of thought.
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Listen, I'm not going to take you on this trip.
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You got to get there.
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And as long as we wind up in the same place, that's fine.
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You know, like, but that's not always the case.
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This is not getting there.
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This is not getting there.
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It's pretty dumb.
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Nope.
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So as a rule, I would say, if you hear someone talking like that, what Alex is getting into,
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you can walk away.
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Oh yeah?
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Nothing good is coming after that.
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Like, you're not going to get some profound insight just after the flesh talk.
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No, no, no.
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Here's the thing.
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Let me just make it clear for you.
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If you're into the flesh, which Trump is super into, then you're going to have a demon.
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But Trump is also super into the Holy Spirit and he's super into the flesh, which we know
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means he has a demon.
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So he's got a hundred percent Holy Spirit and a hundred percent demon him in simultaneously.
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And that way I can do whatever I want to do tomorrow.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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As for Alex here, I think this is a really good call.
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On June 23rd, it does look like the situation with Iran hasn't blown up and the retaliatory
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strikes they did were mostly a face saving measure.
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So the emergency is deescalated.
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But Trump still bombed them, which is pretty impossible to justify to the audience.
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So Alex is still in hot water with that.
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The clock ticking, that's gone.
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But Alex has to realize that this thread is still untangling for Trump and he doesn't
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want to just go down with the ship.
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Alex is planting seeds here that he can try to grow later if he wants with these very
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subtle suggestions that maybe Trump has been possessed by a demon.
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If it's possible that Trump's got a demon in him, then the status quo of supporting
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Trump can be maintained.
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But if you have to bail at some point, you can just find that little bit of evidence
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that you were missing that shows that he's possessed.
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Alex is even trying to give this some credibility by backdating this shit, pretending that he's
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been thinking about talking about it for a month.
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This is a great narrative.
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It's got supernatural intrigue, it allows Alex to ditch Trump if things get too hard,
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and there's zero commitment.
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He can just never bring this up again and no one will call him on it because it sounds
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fucking silly to ask for clarification about a demon theory.
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This is like, okay, well, if this feels good to say, I can develop this later if I want,
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but then I can also just pretend I didn't do it.
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I mean, yeah, let's just do a full reboot.
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Say that Trump got taken over comic book style by a symbiote or whatever it is you like.
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Yeah, a George Bush demon.
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Absolutely.
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Done.
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Moving on, now we can get rid of Trump, but we can still say that everything Trump did
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believe in used to stand for- And the last decade was not a waste of our
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time and we were not wrong to do these things.
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We weren't conned.
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We weren't conned at all.
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No.
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No.
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No, everything worked out exactly the way we wanted it to until this moment when he
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was possessed by the demon of George W. Bush.
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Right.
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Is he dead yet?
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Deus Ex Puschina.
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Oh, God, I can't believe he's still alive.
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Yeah, this actually, ironically, this caller called in and was saying crazy dumb shit.
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Yeah.
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It's the smartest thing to say.
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Yes.
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It's crazy dumb shit, but it is indeed the smartest thing to say.
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Well, because there's no standards for Alex's show.
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There's no rules.
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Yeah, there's no rules.
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You can get away with just about whatever you want.
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Why wouldn't you?
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Yeah.
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So this solves a lot of the literary problems, the sort of narrative problems that Alex has.
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And it's the judo of how do we get off this train?
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Aha, we get him off the train.
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Right.
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Great.
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With the demon.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Boom, baby.
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Now the train is ours.
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It's perfect.
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It's the satanic energy, this demon stuff that might demon that might have possessed
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Donald J. Trump, who's chosen by God, chosen by God, God King.
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All plans of mice and men.
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How is this how God works?
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I don't know.
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OK.
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But Alex does cite a scholar at the end of this.
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OK.
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And I'm not saying it's even satanic energy.
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It's more of just man's tightness will that you can activate.
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And you got to be careful with it because I've gone through some similar things, nothing
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compared to this yet.
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And instead of giving up, I just decided to overcome it, defeat it.
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And then it just turns on all these primal energies that can swerve into devil territory.
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So you can you feel the Holy Spirit more and you feel the evil more.
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It is very metaphysical.
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Is it?
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That's what it is.
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It's not like putting on the Ring of Mordor, but it gets close.
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So here's a clip of Mike Tyson explaining it.
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When God favors you, so is the devil.
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When you're favored by God, you're also favored by the devil.
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He's coming for you.
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So you've got to be strong to stay on the right side.
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He's going to go on.
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He's going to give you power to.
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He's going to get in your head to be a suicide.
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You will stay with you, stay with who brought you here.
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You go home with the guy that brought you to the dance.
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And he goes on to talk about I could win any of these fights.
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But I had to literally the devil on my shoulders say, don't do it or I would have killed these
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people.
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Would you like to lick this toad?
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I would like more conversation ending situations to involve.
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And now listen to this as Mike Tyson explains it.
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That's grand.
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Now listen to me.
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The president might be getting too into the flesh and that leads him to be open to demon
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possession.
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Let's hear Mike Tyson.
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No, it'd be great if I was in like a, if you know that day you're in sixth grade class
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and the substitute teacher gives you like a little primer and then it's like, and now
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for more Bill Nye is going to explain how to make this little experiment.
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This is what Mike Tyson is for in 2025.
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Right.
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Uh, certain people can control the weather through magic on for more on that bam, bam,
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bigelow.
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Boom.
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Here we go.
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Let's see.
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What do you got?
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All right.
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Um, why not make random figures, correspondence for all kinds of random things.
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Sure.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Desperate on trees.
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Uh, fucking Johnny Knoxville.
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He's a real, yeah.
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I mean, why not?
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Humans are able to teleport.
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You just aren't allowing yourself to do so.
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For more on the story, we go to the junkyard dog.
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I don't know.
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Try and think of another old pro wrestler.
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Yeah, I know.
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I, I, I just keep going back to, to weird, like, uh, yeah.
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So, um, Alex is, uh, is like, Hey man, we might have a demon Trump on our hands.
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Right.
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Right.
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Of course.
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And you know, whose fault it is?
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Kissinger?
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The left.
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Oh, what?
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When you get power, whatever you want to call it, it's metaphysical.
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And here is the most powerful person in the world.
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It's been through all these trials, the whole world, even as enemies admiring Trump is on
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quite a trip.
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You can call it what you want, but we, he's gotta be careful and he's gotta be humble
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because this is the stuff of danger we're dealing with.
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We'll be right back.
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Hey, the left doing this help create him.
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How do you feel now?
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Fools, fools, you fools.
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I think this, this is excellent.
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This is actually, this is actually something that we should all be very grateful for.
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And everybody listening should keep this clip available with you.
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Okay.
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Because anytime somebody in the future may have some sort of argument like, Oh, well
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let's make this compromise with them now because no wrong, wrong.
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It doesn't matter.
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It is your fault because they don't like you because they can't deal with themselves.
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There will never, anything that Trump does will never be their fault.
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It will always be our fault despite telling them not to do it.
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Yeah.
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And if Trump disappoints, then it's our fault for not going along with him or something.
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Absolutely.
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Accidentally created demon Trump.
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It would have, Hey, listen, Trump would have been great if you guys would have been nicer
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to him, but now look at us.
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Now we all have to suffer through this demon who I totally is, who isn't doing the thing
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that you told me he was going to do.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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I mean, this is stupid.
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Like this kind of like, why did you have to be so mean to him?
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And you, you ended up creating this negative outcome.
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Like if I really wanted to play that game, which I absolutely don't, I think I would
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just be like, okay, then Alex caused the Iraq war by saying that Bush did nine 11.
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Yep.
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Oh, yep.
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What does it mean?
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It doesn't mean anything.
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This is stupid.
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No, I mean, I feel, I feel pilot.
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I feel Pontius pilots so hard now, just like that idea of like, you know what?
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Yeah, you guys, you can solve this problem.
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Whatever you want to do.
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I don't care.
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I don't care.
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Fuck you.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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I don't feel that way because I know the consequences that are going to come are going
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to hurt a lot of people who don't deserve to get hurt and I don't trust people like
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Alex and them to solve a problem.
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I would be surprised if they could.
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Yeah.
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If they all lived in a bubble and they were fighting, I would say, I don't really care.
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Sure.
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But because it affects so many other people, uh, it's hold on.
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So what you have just admitted is that you're on board with my bubble idea.
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I don't, I don't think your bubble idea is an idea.
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I think we put them in a bubble.
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Right.
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That doesn't, it's not, it's not a thing we can take steps towards.
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Sure.
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There was a giant bubble.
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Yeah.
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I just don't, the logistics.
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They had a biodome.
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There was a movie.
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We got at least two people in one.
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Uh huh.
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And one of them was a Baldwin.
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We could get all the Baldwins in a bigger biodome.
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That's fair.
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So, uh, throughout this show, the tension has been, is Iran's response attack real or
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is it posture?
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Yeah.
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Um, and it seems like we've settled on to, it's just face saving.
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They're doing, they're going through the motions.
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Uh, but Alex just saw another tweet up.
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Bad news.
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See, I said, I thought it was retaliation response.
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He was attacks senior Iranian official tells Reuters, but they did call the military and
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say the missiles are coming and they did say they don't want to expand the war.
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And Trump just said he wanted that.
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So let's hope.
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I think this is all up there.
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You heard me first hour saying, I don't think this is a Kabuki theater like before.
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This is so much more kinetic, so much bigger Israel being flattened, Iran being flattened,
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Russia talking about, you know, North Korea, but nukes to them.
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But we're in a whole nother ball game here, folks.
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Here I am celebrating as it's all over the news that Iran's backing down and then this,
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but I don't trust Reuters as far as I can throw.
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Remember they, they run wide scale, just a deception campaigns on the public.
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So this is a roller coaster.
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I don't know what anybody is meant to think about anything.
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So I just think you're at a state where it's like, I don't know.
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I don't know what Alex is saying.
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I we're, we're, he's in the little tree house of horror Simpsons.
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Like, ah, they, but it comes with ice cream.
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That's good news.
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But the ice cream is cursed.
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That's bad news.
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Like you were just going to be doing this forever.
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We're just going to be going back and forth with reasons why the same thing happening
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is good or bad and feeling a bit ways about it.
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Yeah.
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It makes you feel trapped.
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It makes you feel like, um, okay, so, uh, do I take the ice cream or do I not?
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Can I, can I go, can I go about my life or should I be worried that Iran is about to
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nuke me?
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You can, but you should also be worried about whether or not, okay, so now I need to learn
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more.
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Are you going to tell me more?
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I can't, but I'm also going to, I got Intel coming in.
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I mean, I saw a tweet.
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Jesus Christ.
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Um, so this leads to a return of an energy that we haven't gotten to see in Alex in a
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while.
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And I, I, for one, enjoy it.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Here's the big news.
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And I'm going right to your phone calls.
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I Ryan, uh, Iran fires missiles at us air bases.
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A guitar Doha says attacks intercepted no casualties.
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Iran says it reserves all options on response to outrageous us strikes.
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I ran Israel live.
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Iran says launch missiles, us air base and guitar rack on alert.
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Now that's not, that's not what I needed.
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We're going to rebroadcast for a while.
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It's fine.
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I'm cool with it.
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I understand it was 15 minutes ago.
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It's Reuters that Iran says they're going to keep shooting the missiles.
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I just have to have it.
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Um, let's, it's, it's not a problem.
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It's not a problem.
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I'm going to take a break for a while.
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I just, I hit my maximum overload here today.
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So that's just where we are right now.
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I'm going to have to deal with this.
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It's cool.
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It's cool.
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I'm cool.
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Everything's cool.
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Everything's great.
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Uh, Alex, as your producer, I just want to point out that, uh, you have done this all
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entirely to yourself.
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Yeah.
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Just in case you were wondering.
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And I was thinking about why this energy reemerged.
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We haven't really seen him do a, I got to go to rebroadcast.
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Yeah.
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It's been a while.
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And I think that to understand it, uh, one of the ways that I helped conceive of it in
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my brain is like, Alex is kind of a prop comic.
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Prop comic is a comedian whose act relies on physical props without which their punch
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lines wouldn't make sense.
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If you're a prop comic and you've been building towards a punch line and when it's time to
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pull out the prop, your assistant is packed the wrong thing.
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It's going to affect your performance.
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Yeah.
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You definitely can't just tell the joke like you planned and you might want to storm off
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stage.
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Alex is trying to tell a complex story on this episode, which has a bunch of ups and
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downs and he needs his props to be able to navigate it.
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The bottom line is supposed to be the Trump means well, but his advisors convinced him
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that attacking Iran was the best thing to do for world peace.
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In response to that attack, Iran could do a face saving symbolic attack or a full on
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attack that would indicate that this is the beginning of a world war.
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The tension that's powering this show is that is it real or is it theater question, which
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has more or less been resolved by this point.
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Qatar and Trump have said that they had advance warning of Iran's attack, which is a strong
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indication that this was face saving.
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For Alex to continue telling this story, there needs to be ambiguity.
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And if that doesn't exist on its own, he needs to create it.
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He needs this prop in order to maintain the will they, won't they energy on the show.
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And that's why he blows up at the staff when they give him the wrong thing.
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The old bit of information that is like Trump knew, Qatar knew that Iran was going to shoot
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these missiles.
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That's the old bit of the roller coaster track.
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That's going down.
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We need the track that leads upward.
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And that is this insinuation that Iran is going to continue attacking.
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And Alex understands he played roller coaster tycoon.
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He knows how to build this thing.
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And he can't keep going down.
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They can't go on that down slope.
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You need to bring it back up or else you're going to lose all of the momentum.
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And that's really what I feel when I hear him in this instance as a non-drunk person
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having this reaction.
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I got to get off air.
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Right.
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Ugh.
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Right.
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He's saying something like that call packed a kick, but he doesn't have a shoe that's
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a phone.
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So it sounds pretty stupid.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So he does go to a special report kind of thing and then he comes back and he's boring.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Kind of dull.
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Yeah.
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You're supposed to go away to get drunker and angrier so when you come back you've really
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got something.
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If you just go away and then calm down, now you feel kind of stupid because it's like,
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well, I could have just stayed.
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Yeah.
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You either go away to get drunker and angrier or get your shit in order.
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And so you have information to report.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And he doesn't either.
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And I think that this I resent a great deal kind of.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if I resent it.
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But it is a day that's important.
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It's a day that matters in the world because you have the possibility of Iran continuing
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attacks against the US.
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It's reaching a point where the ball is just rolling in a way that has no brakes on it.
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And Alex is just reading Twitter.
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Just reading Twitter, just riffing on tweets, trying to keep the both sides of it going
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that this is fine and this is the end of the world at the same time.
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It's just dull.
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Like if you can just trap people in that state, you know, and you can like it's turned into
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an interesting thing to watch Alex go from being the person who's trying to trap people
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in that state to being trapped in it himself.
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It's just like you can see it.
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You can see the paralysis and the inability to even do anything.
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Like he can't even do his own show.
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Yeah.
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But that is in contrast to like Alex having these shining moments, like when he's like,
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oh, maybe Trump's got a demon in him.
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There's definitely that.
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That I think is his brain still working and still recognizing like we got to work the
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angles.
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We got to figure out what we can do.
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What has the air of him being his own person as opposed to just being a Twitter recap show?
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Yeah.
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And I just, I don't know.
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I wish it was more of that.
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I wish it was more Trump might have a demon in him and less what did Nick Sartor say on
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Twitter?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cause it really is the only thing that makes sense.
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If you stick in reality, you're just going to have to create more unreality to cover
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the fact that the reality that you wanted is complete bullshit.
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So fucking he's got a demon in him.
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Done.
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And skip out, cut out the middleman.
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He's got a demon in him.
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It's the same demon that attacked Tucker Carlson who should kick the shit out of you for revealing
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that he's in the CIA.
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Azrael, the CIA attacking demon that controls Trump now.
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Yep.
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Done.
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We've nailed it.
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We've nailed the whole thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we'll be back to see how this demon possession progresses or see if Alex abandons that plot
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line entirely.
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It would be nice.
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It would be nice to keep it.
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What if, holy shit.
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Yeah.
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God was trying to get Alex to go to Gene Hackman.
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Right.
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To save his soul.
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Right.
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And exercise the demon that was within Gene Hackman before Gene Hackman died.
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And when Gene Hackman dies a natural death without exercising the demon, the demon is
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unleashed and goes to Trump.
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Absolutely.
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So not only was Alex chosen by God to save the entire world through saving Gene Hackman.
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Yes.
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And by not doing that, he has destroyed everything that he was supposed to create.
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Yes.
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By not going to Gene Hackman like God commanded him to.
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This demon has run loose.
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It is out there and he's gotten into Trump and is now going to cause World War III a
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nuclear war.
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And it's Alex's fucking fault.
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Do you know what's crazy?
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Of all the things that we have talked about because of Alex saying that they are biblical,
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this one, this tracks with old time God.
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This is old time God's style.
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This is his, that's got his shit all over it.
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There's an irony.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He loves that shit.
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Yeah.
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It's your fault, but you didn't even know it was going to be your fault.
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And now how do you feel?
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Dump, dump.
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Should have listened.
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Should have listened.
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I'm God.
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Yeah.
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I gave you 200 fucking dreams about Gene Hackman.
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That's so many.
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Too many.
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I didn't even need to do it.
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Yeah.
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I could have just given you one loud one.
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I tried to make it obvious.
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Idiot.
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I've been telling you to wake up at 2.15.
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So we'll see how this develops, but until then we have a website.
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We do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
