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You decide to go to...
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Yeah, my wife and I went to Costa Rica to essentially go on adventures.
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Yeah, and I went to my hometown to relive traumatic memories in past places.
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Sure.
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So I went back to Columbia, Missouri.
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It was a very nice time.
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All in all, great to see my boy Burger again.
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Shout out to Swear Engine.
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Probably the best thing was I got to go back to Forum 8, the theater I worked at for many years.
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And I thought that I would get really emotional within the projection booth if they'd let me up there.
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And it was a negotiation to get up there.
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I will say that.
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I went and I asked the person at the concession stand to talk to the manager.
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And the manager comes over and I think he thinks I was up to espionage.
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Sure.
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He's like, leave your name and number.
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I'll talk to my manager.
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You dirty commie.
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So I went to go see a movie and then came out and they let me upstairs.
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He had cleared me.
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That's great.
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Checked with McCarthy.
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Good.
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I got the all good.
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Alright, alright.
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But I went upstairs and there's no film anymore.
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There's just digital projectors.
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And so that wasn't all that overwhelming.
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But then we came down the stairs from the projection booth.
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And right near the stairs is the back exit that goes out to the dumpster.
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And I immediately was like, I gotta go out to the dumpster.
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I gotta go out there.
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That's where we used to get high.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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Smoke cigarettes.
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Scene of the crime.
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I started smoking cigarettes just to go out there on breaks with the managers and be cool.
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And so we go out there and the manager is telling me, hey, we have this state of the art dumpster.
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My man, that was there when it was exactly the same.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But there is a pole, a little pole that's coming out of the ground.
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It's not connected to anything.
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It might have been at some point.
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But back when I used to work there, we would smoke cigarettes and put them in the pole.
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Because the pole had an open top.
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Fools.
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Yeah.
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We filled it up.
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And instead of cleaning it out, we just taped over it.
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That makes sense.
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And it was always this thing that was there.
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There's like this taped over pole and it's full of our cigarette butts.
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Right.
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And out by the dumpster, it was still there.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, hey man, do you know why that's taped over?
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The tape was still on top of it too?
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Yeah.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Yeah, so I told him and I was like, man, this is great.
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This is fun to be like connected to a piece of lore.
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This physical thing is still here.
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And he was like, you gotta clean that up, buddy.
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No, he was charmed by it.
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Oh, okay.
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He seemed like he dug it.
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Okay.
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So it was kind of a cool be able to like, hey, here's a little secret about that pole.
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Right, right, right.
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We live in the present now, but I used to also be in the past.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And that pole was there in both.
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It's a constant.
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Yes, exactly.
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Yeah.
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So the pole that I used to put cigarette butts in was probably a high point of the trip.
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That's actually pretty interesting and fun.
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Yeah.
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So what about you?
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is obviously the trip.
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My wife and I went on our, we didn't have a honeymoon and she's turning 40 this year.
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So we did it up.
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I did it all by myself.
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I did the whole planet and all that stuff.
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And you know, you know, yeah, well, I mean, she's the responsible one, but like, you know,
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I was thinking about it and I was thinking about like competition, playing sports, you
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know, sometimes you can do everything right and it still just goes wrong.
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Sure.
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Just, it's just how it works.
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Sometimes it doesn't matter what you do.
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You're just fucked that day, you know?
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And sometimes you do a good job and things work out well and then sometimes you just
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have those days where you're just fucking, everything works.
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Everything works without effort.
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And that was what this trip was.
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It could not have been better.
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It was just nailed from start to finish.
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And so it was great.
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Yeah, that's nice.
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Yep.
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What a wonderful vacation.
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It was awesome.
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It was really, I jumped in, off a canyon thing.
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Sure.
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About 35 feet or whatever it was.
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I jumped off of there and normally I'm afraid of heights and my wife was worried whenever
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we started doing this one that I was going to seize up and then I wasn't going to do
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all the jumps into the water.
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But do you know what?
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She didn't know.
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She didn't know that in my head I was wondering, I was like, this is a little bit like the
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challenge.
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We're like going to a, we're going to a different country.
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It's basically doing a stunt.
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Yeah.
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We're doing, we're doing a bunch of different things.
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We're going to different places.
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I remember an episode where Leroy doesn't do the jump in the canyoneering and he doesn't
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jump into the river.
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And then I thought, you know what?
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I wouldn't disappoint TJ.
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Jumped.
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Boom.
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I don't disappoint TJ.
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That's what happened.
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He hates quitters.
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He hates quitters.
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That kept, that, I would be, I would be lying if I didn't tell you that TJ helped me make
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that jump.
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I think for people of our generation and our age that he's inspired a lot of adrenaline
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based decisions.
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Well, it's fun.
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I like, I think that it's just incredibly on a brand for our characters that you went
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and jumped into a canyon in Costa Rica and I cried while walking my paper route from
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when I was a kid.
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So there are, and both of us think that's a vacation.
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Sometimes emblematic things can be on point.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Indeed.
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We're going to be talking about June 13th and 14th, 2025.
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All right.
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Last we left off, the United States was in a civil war.
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Yes, it was.
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How's that going?
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It had been declared.
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Yeah.
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Well, and Alex had announced that the 14th was the start date of the fifth wave.
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Yeah, it was the jump off.
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Yeah.
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God was pushing everyone towards that date.
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All right.
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So we're going to see what happened on 13th and the 14th.
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That makes sense.
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Yep.
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So first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Chewy V, we support your recovery and remind you tackle it one day at a time.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, hey Dan and Jordan, thank you so much for making the wow classic grind a lot more
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fun.
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John S, thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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I realize that's World of Warcraft, but when I saw classic grind, I forgot that that's
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what it was and I thought of MTV's The Grind.
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Oh, okay.
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That makes sense.
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I don't know how we would help that.
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That would also be classic though.
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Yeah.
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And happy pride all you radical rainbows.
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I love you all.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we have a technical grad in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to the paddle, not the other paddle, but this one, this very one.
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Don't confuse them with the other one.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technical grad.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Now let me make a quick correction.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That was Patty.
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That was Patty.
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Yes.
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I read it as paddle partially because my brain started reading it and I thought it was a
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play on the cane from news radio.
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Makes sense.
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And I thought that's what it was, but with a paddle, but it's Patty.
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Anyway, my apologies.
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This Patty displeases me.
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I'll keep this one.
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This one I keep.
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So Alex here is on the 13th and a lot of the show is a dud.
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I am not interested in a whole lot of the nonsense that he's got going on.
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He has Daniel Estlin on because I guess Bilderberg is happening around this time.
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Great.
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Who cares?
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But he has another guest on his show on the 13th that I think bodes poorly.
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All right.
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We could not have a better guest on right now.
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He was a Ron Paul staffer, award winning lawyer from major policy ideas and things he developed.
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And a Grammy.
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A paratrooper and the founder of the Oath Keepers.
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And then the main guy of all the people that got demonized, Joe Biggs, Enrico Tarrio, great
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guys did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Political prisoners pardoned by the president or commuted in his case.
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Put in a good log, never broke his will, said Trump was going to win reelection, said we
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were turning around and came out of prison stronger because I've known this guy for a
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long time than before.
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And he was strong then.
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I think you look younger than before, J6.
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What the hell's got a time machine or something?
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I'm getting jealous here.
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The president does that to you.
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That's what her inmates say is it preserves you.
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I remember Bannon came out, you know, he looked pretty rough before.
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He looked like 20 years younger when he came out.
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Yeah.
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So, so what an incredible time.
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You can speak to the globalist, Chicom, Democrat Party, all confirmed, uprising that they've
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got going tomorrow.
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That's just beta tested so far.
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Bannon might have looked better because he didn't have booze in prison.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There are a lot of things that Bannon didn't have access to that he does to himself.
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Yeah.
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So the United States is in a civil war, as Alex has already declared.
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They're on the eve of the big wave that Alex is saying is kicking off tomorrow.
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Not the best guest to book necessarily, the guy who stormed the Capitol with his militia
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gang and tried to overturn the 2020 election.
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Yeah.
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Certainly, you know, it fits.
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I mean, I suppose, I suppose his book would be titled The Short Waddle to Freedom, something
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along those lines.
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Because not the inspiring figure that he wishes he could be.
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Yeah.
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I think that he probably, I don't know, it's really interesting to think about like what
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he must be feeling.
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Because if he does feel like there is a civil war, he must feel pretty emboldened.
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You'd think.
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Because I don't think you can do anything really all that worse than try and overthrow
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an election.
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I mean.
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Like in terms of crimes against the community, against...
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Yeah.
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So I feel like he must think that as long as he's doing something for Trump, he can
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do anything.
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I mean, you'd think that, but man, maybe he doesn't...
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Okay.
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Here's what I'd say, right?
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I'd say that unlike Roger Stone's pardon, where it was clear that from this point on
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Roger Stone is by Tony in all ways.
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Well, I think they already were on that wavelength a little.
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For sure.
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I'm sorry.
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Absolutely.
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I don't see that happening with him because the pardons were different.
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This was a little bit of a weird kind of situation.
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Right, the clemency, like without the gun rights.
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Yeah.
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Reinstated and stuff.
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If I'm dealing with the deal maker as what he believes Trump to be, and I see that I'm
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not getting the same sweetheart deal as other people, I'm staying back.
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You know?
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Standing back and standing by.
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I'm standing by because I'm letting other people do the, you need a pardon shit for
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a while.
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That's what I'm thinking.
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Yeah, that might be.
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That might be.
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I'm conflicted between like the, I think I can do anything I want now.
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Right.
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Or I got away with a crazy thing.
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I mean crazy.
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I'm going to be pretty clean for the rest of my life.
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Oh boy.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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It's like, do you buy a shit ton of lottery tickets or do you just go away?
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I don't think you can go away.
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If you're the type of person who leads an insurrection, I don't think you can not do
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it again if you get the chance.
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It does feel like getting for a penalty and for a pound situation.
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Yeah.
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So tomorrow is the no kings protest.
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And it's the big one.
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We have Anna Paulina Luna and other members of Congress saying they've been shown the
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intel and that the, uh, this black lives matter, you know, leftist commie consortium funded
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by the billionaires, the China comms, the NGOs, no kings are planning and are dressing
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up like Maga supporters to attack people tomorrow across the country.
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So J six two point out the false flag, the Kent state.
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I don't think there's a question if this is the big one, they're going for the destabilization
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Podesta break up the country plan that's public and it's treasonous.
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They should be prosecuted.
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The question is, will it fizz out?
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Will it be a dud?
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They're going with the big one.
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This is the big fabled one.
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This is it.
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All of it happening now.
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The question is, can we navigate this?
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Will it sputter and fail?
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Stuart Rhodes is our guest.
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Give sin go.com.
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So we didn't read a SOPS a little bit about the no Kings protests.
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The no Kings fable I have not read.
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How does that, does the, does the tortoise win that one or is that more of a hair gig?
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No, you get eaten by a witch.
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That's fair.
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It's a dark fable.
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I mean, that's fair.
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That is how they usually end.
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Uh, yeah.
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So I, I, um, I'm now at the point I think, and maybe I've been in this point for a little
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bit where I, I've heard Alex say, this is the big one too many times.
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Maybe I feel like for a long time, he was pretty careful to be like, there's a big one
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coming eventually.
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Yeah.
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Um, and now he's just throwing it around.
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Like it's, uh, the lollipops at the doctor's office.
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It feels cheaper.
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Everything feels a lot cheaper.
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Uh, we're, we're seeing a, to put it this way, we're watching the wrong jaws.
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Cause we're seeing a lot of shark.
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We're seeing too much shark here.
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Right?
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This is like deep blue sea.
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Too much shark.
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Give us a little suspense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, Stuart has a plan and that is the Trump should just like kind of make him the
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army.
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Why not?
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That does make sense.
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What president Trump can do that's unique is he has the authority that was already provided
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by Congress many times, many, you know, back at the start of the founding, the militia
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acts provide for calling forth the militia.
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He can call all of us up and us veterans until age 64.
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I believe he should.
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I think what he should say is, is given the reality of an invasion of an insurrection
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of a necessity to execute the laws of the union, I'm calling for the militia, not just
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the national guard, but the rest of the militia, which is the owner organized militia.
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I'm going to call you together and order you to organize yourselves in your counties with
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a veterans instructed to take command and then organize and train the other men.
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You stay in your counties until the president gives you any further orders, but you get
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yourselves ready.
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And why that's important is then you're getting yourself trained up and organized for the
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inevitable October 7th style attacks that are going to be coming or the first admin
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that he can crank up a civil unrest the last year, they're doing it at the start, right?
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And it's going to keep going.
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So I don't understand what difference there really is between the way things currently
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are and what Stewart wants Trump to do.
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He and his militia buddies can clearly organize to their heart's content and prepare for whatever
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terror attack they foresee coming.
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He seems to want to have the official sanction of the state on his little army, but I think
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it's clear that he already kind of has that since they tried to overturn an election on
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Trump's behalf, then Trump got them out of jail when he got back in office.
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In every meaningful way, Trump has called Stewart and the Oath Keepers and the Proud
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Boys up as a militia.
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Maybe he hasn't done that through official government channels, but Stewart wouldn't
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want that.
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That would lead to him having to submit to some form of oversight or regulation and Stewart
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doesn't like that shit.
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That makes being a petty tyrant less fun when there are rules.
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Basically what I'm saying is that if he's communicating his objectives sincerely, he's
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achieved them.
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There is no difference between the world he envisions and the...
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Well, I mean, there's the perception difference.
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There's the public perception difference.
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In one situation, he is essentially a...
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Duke?
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Bandit king.
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Yeah.
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Highway menning his way through the middle of nowhere causing problems.
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Just the head of a network of veterans' armies that run small towns.
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Do what exactly?
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Sell merch.
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What are we talking about?
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To take over counties?
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That's your plan?
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To sell merch.
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We're going to do a county by county takeover and then what?
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You're going to hold municipal government hearings?
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Of course you're not.
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You fucking lunatics.
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And then we're going to tax everyone.
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I mean collect dues.
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Right?
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What are you talking about?
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You're going to organize garbage pickup.
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That's what they're going to do.
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Hey, that would be nice.
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It would be nice.
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Yeah.
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I would like them to have municipal duties to see why they don't do them.
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No, because they're boring.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Let regular people just do their jobs, man.
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No.
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We want to shoot things.
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Then go into the woods and stay there.
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No.
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Because civic government annoys me.
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If that was the conversation, that would actually...
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I'd be like, yeah, that's fair enough.
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I guess you're right.
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I guess it does annoy you.
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But I don't want to be told that I have to trim this hedge.
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You're a giant baby, but I guess I can't really argue with a baby now, can I?
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Yeah.
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So Alex seems to think that there's a flow chart to how things work in Stewart's militia
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utopia.
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Okay.
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And Stewart seems to have a completely different chart.
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That makes sense.
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These guys are not connecting.
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Okay.
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The answer is the founders answer, which is we the people, the militia.
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Now, President Trump can call us up right now.
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No governor can stop him because you're being called into federal service and he can organize
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us by the county like that.
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And he should.
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And then the sheriff's department can weed out quickly who they don't want.
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The sheriff would have nothing to do with that.
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It'd be the president of the United States.
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But I would imagine under that command, though, the states would be brought in to organize
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under that.
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If they're cooperating, they could.
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But my point is, is that under federal statutes, the president has...
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Well, I understand that.
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So I guess he would designate the feds that would lead that.
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No, he would say the military men who live in that county come together, the veterans,
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and that's who he puts in command.
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Now, he might use a National Guard general to go oversee them.
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He could certainly do that.
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Or an active duty army general.
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He could do that, too.
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Or Marine Corps.
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He certainly could.
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He could insert his chain of command into the state and make sure that the men are organized
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properly and that they're not doing anything they shouldn't be doing.
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But my point is, is that he can go around the governors like Newsom and go around any
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traitorous county leadership.
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And let's be clear.
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The Podesta plan from August of 2020, which they said they're implementing this time,
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if Trump didn't get it stolen, if they couldn't override him, they were going to go to full
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insurrection, blue state cities secede, shut down the country and drive them from power.
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Then they made the movie, Civil War, with a $350 million budget two years ago released
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last year.
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What are we doing with it?
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We're doing it and preprogramming.
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This is happening.
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They're trying this.
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So this clip is a really good encapsulation of how not on the same page these guys are
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when it comes to details.
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They have the same vibe, which is to overthrow democracy and install a king.
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But they're talking different languages.
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Alex imagines a militia that's based in a sheriff because the sheriff is the highest
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legitimate form of law enforcement, that the extreme right states rights, kind of the extreme
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right wing folks.
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That ideology that he grew up in, they fetishized the sheriff.
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Yeah, makes perfect sense.
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He imagines the sheriff brings together a posse and then they do Trump's bidding.
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Stuart's more in favor of just letting veterans form their own organization completely outside
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of any recognized chain of command under the president, because that way he can become
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a warlord just carrying out Trump's bidding without the pesky sheriff.
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Yeah, don't need it.
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You can see from exchanges like that one how they really aren't speaking the same language,
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but they know they both fundamentally want the same thing.
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Also, since the last time we recorded, I finally got around to seeing that Civil War movie
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and it's nothing like what Alex made me think it was going to be.
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Not even close.
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He says that the Nick Offerman character is a Trump stand in.
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And I think if you say that, you're telling on yourself a little bit.
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That movie seems to go out of its way to not be political and the Civil War itself isn't
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really well defined on purpose.
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There's a story about combat reporting and how journalism gives you PTSD.
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I don't think Alex saw that movie.
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I think he brings it up.
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And I think if he did see it, I think he would be super bored.
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Yeah, it's a really boring movie for him.
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It's not about two giant tanks shooting at each other and one of them has a big red,
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white and blue penis on it that he can root for.
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It's about characters being in pain and Kristen Dunst not wanting this younger girl to be
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in the same pain that she is.
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Yep.
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Oh well.
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Yeah.
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Next.
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Really small story.
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All things considered.
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I like, here's what I like.
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I like that on the eve of this no kings protest that Alex is trying to discredit as being
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a bullshit and not about the very, very thing that it is about.
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Stuart Rhodes is asking for a president to have a singular army that he has unilateral
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control over with no oversight whatsoever.
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That is organized on a county basis with veterans and weirdos who are willing to overthrow the
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government on behalf of Trump.
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Right.
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Loyalists like that.
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Right.
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That is literally serfdom.
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That's what it was.
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That's the whole idea of it.
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That was the thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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These guys aren't subtle.
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They're not good at this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex continues down this road of like tomorrow is the day.
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Yeah.
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And that's really the vibe you'd be getting if you were watching his show at this point.
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What do you make of Anna Paulina Luna and others saying they've seen the photos, the
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documents from law enforcement, the left.
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We already talked about it, but this is big.
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They're planning, they are dressing up like us and causing bedlam tomorrow.
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We've got to get this information out to everybody.
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Everybody watching this needs to share this.
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When we archive this in a few hours on X from the show, you've got to share this.
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He's going on Owen right when the show, my broadcast ends in 22 minutes.
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He's walking over there.
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The war on 3 p.m.
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This is critical.
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We've proven we, this is what we do.
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Stewart does this full time back.
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We worked for Ron Paul decades ago.
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I do this full time.
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This is what we do.
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We defend the Republic.
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We defend our freedoms.
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We and information and truth is the antidote to what's about to go down.
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So we scream full time and really agitate people and, and, and incite them about how
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tomorrow's the day.
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That's what they do full time.
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Yeah.
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We cosplay a TV show for money.
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Hmm.
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Great.
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So, uh, the commies.
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Yep.
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What about them?
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They're going to do false flags the next day.
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Right.
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They're dressing like the people in order to false flag you.
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Yeah.
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Now I can't think of anything less useful at this point than a false flag.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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I, I, uh, I would tend to agree with you, uh, somewhat.
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I think that, uh, people are a little jaded and, uh, desensitized in a way that, uh, it
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hasn't felt like in a long time.
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Um, I think that Alex's stuff feels a little bit sillier in 2025 than it did certainly
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even just a few years ago.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Apparently, uh, some commies are going to dress up like Trump supporters in order to
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attack other commies or to make Trump supporters look like they want to attack commies.
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Right.
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Although the Trump supporters really do want to attack commies.
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Exactly.
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Quite a bit.
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Yeah.
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And do they do.
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I mean, yeah.
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If you're, cause I think the, cause the false flag is either about getting public opinion
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on your side or like creating a certain Cassius belly kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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Uh, and I think you don't need either at any for, for anybody at this point, if you want
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a reason, you got it.
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And I think that that, that extends to somewhat of the other use that this has for Alex, which
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is pacification of his audience.
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Sure.
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Um, if something were to happen at these protests, like a Trump supporter, just machine guns,
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people down or something.
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Sure.
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I think that you have a risk of some of them being horrified by this.
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Sure.
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And for Alex to have a preemptively set up as like, no, it's all fake.
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These are just people attacking themselves.
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Right.
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And there's a pacification that he can hope to achieve from that.
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And people will just keep buying the products and rah, rah, the info war.
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Yeah.
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That's the other thing between other than like the Cossus belly and the other option.
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Just allowing it to happen.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Make like a desensitize yourself.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, that's happening tomorrow.
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Okay.
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If the commies are able to get a real rebellion going other than isolated areas, they say
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they're hitting a thousand areas to a thousand, one thousand areas.
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Gut level.
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Do you think it's going to go bigger?
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It's going to fizzle.
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Well, it depends on what happens.
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I think if, if, uh, they want that Kent state moment, then it would go big.
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It'd be like the, the, the George Floyd protests.
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They would use that.
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Well, that's the plan, right?
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So you touch where you want to deny them.
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So right now, they're going to do it to themselves.
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They might.
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Right.
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So they just, I'm predicting I may not be tomorrow.
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I'm predicting they mow my surround people down.
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They're doing it.
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They're geared up like this to not do it.
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Right.
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Or maybe they Oklahoma city truck bomb them so they can kind of have plausible nobility.
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So whether they do it through a false flag or whether it's a real insurrection that rises
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up, um, I think, I think it's coming.
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So yeah, that just, that sort of didn't happen.
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Um, but overnight, uh, gentlemen, uh, guy, uh, in Minnesota did, uh, shoot a bunch of
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people.
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Sure.
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Uh, they, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they, uh, they
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killed the houses of a state Senator and a state representative and, uh, killed the representative
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and, uh, her husband and, uh, wounded the, uh, uh, Senator and state Senator and his
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wife.
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And, uh, yeah, so that did happen overnight.
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Uh, so Alex normally would be off on a Saturday, right.
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And he's established that this is the beginning of the fifth wave.
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Sure.
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So he wants to be on air to watch the protests and like talk about it.
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If there's a bomb that goes off somewhere, he wants to be able to like be covered.
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Yeah.
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He's gotta be on the air when it happens, right?
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When the shit goes off, you gotta be there.
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Right.
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You can't say the big shits happening on the 14th and then not do a show on the 14th.
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I'm gonna take a day off.
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Yeah.
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So he, he does, uh, he does come in for Saturday show and he starts off with a little bit of
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coverage about, uh, the shootings in, uh, Minnesota.
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Probably great.
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We also have the no Kings Democrat party, Chai Comm consortium with reportedly over
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a thousand locations to have disruption and violent uprisings that have already begun
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in many parts of the country.
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As we go into day number eight of the political violence promised by the Democrat party.
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And then as soon as I saw this break about three hours ago, two Democrat lawmakers and
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their spouses shot one lawmaker, dad or husband, dad, the other two in critical condition.
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I thought, let me look up their voting record.
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And they had been Democrats that were coming over the Republican party and reportedly about
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to join the Republican party.
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And one of them particularly had just voted to not give me legal aliens, free healthcare
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coverage.
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And I immediately thought, Oh, I wonder if it's kind of part two, how they've Democrat
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parties even got bills named after the shooter of the New York healthcare insurance company
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executive.
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We've got polls of Democrats with 80% praising and say, there's been more killings.
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I was just guessing that.
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And now the police identified that they reported a lead shooter.
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They chased off the scenes.
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They're pretty 99% of them is a Tim Walz high level appointee and a no Kings organizer and
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had a bunch of the flyers in his car.
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So back in the day when events like this would happen, the people coming up with the talking
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points to call the shooting a false flag were rightly relegated to really dark corners of
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the internet, like low traffic message boards.
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Alex had a real purpose because he was one of the only people with a real show.
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And he built up a fake persona as the guy who reads white papers and secret documents.
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So he had a unique ability to pass off things that he read on those dumb message boards
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as something other than what it was.
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He gave a gravitas to it just by the uniqueness of his position.
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He was in that special position where he could take these talking points from fully extreme
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places and he could launder them into slightly less offensive packages.
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So they could reach a possibly wider audience who wouldn't know the kind of shit that they
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were engaging with.
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But like so many Americans, technology has rendered his job obsolete.
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Twitter is just all of that now.
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It's the home for extreme right wing talking points like the old message boards.
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It's a place with a gullible wider audience of people ready to be drawn in by slightly
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sanitized versions of those extreme talking points.
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And it's a place where everyone is just as legitimate as anybody else.
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Most people don't even use their real names.
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So if they want to tell you that they have a doctorate in political science, I'd like
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to see you disprove it.
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Who knows?
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Who knows who this fucking ding dong is with a fake name?
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All of this stuff Alex is saying about his immediate reaction to the shootings in Minnesota
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very well may be his actual thoughts, but they're also exactly what everyone on his
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side posted on Twitter to try and deflect any questions or responsibility being aimed
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in their direction.
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No one knew what was going on or who this guy was, but the targets were Democrat lawmakers,
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and it's very easy as an impulse for people to assume the motive from the target.
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Alex and all of his ilk knew fully well that they were going to need to be on the defensive,
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because it makes the most sense that a rampaging right wing guy would kill Democratic lawmakers,
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particularly in a state where the state house was at a complete tie, with both parties having
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67 members in office until the shooting.
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Alex and all of his contemporaries knew that it's critical to, it's very important to avoid
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any possible insinuation that their rhetoric and incitement had any part of leading up
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to this crime being carried out.
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So it's key to start fucking with that wet cement before it dries.
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You need to get to work.
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Whatever little things they can come up with have to be weaved into a narrative.
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So they hope that they can make it strong enough to hold up against the weight of any
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facts that come to bear upon it once those facts are known.
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So you have these little tidbits of things that Alex found on Twitter.
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The first story that Alex has is about this state house member who was assassinated, Melissa
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Hortman.
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According to Alex's version, she was becoming a Republican, and she'd voted against giving
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undocumented immigrants free healthcare, right?
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Exciting.
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Sure.
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This has to do with Hortman's recent vote for SSFH1, a bill that would strip undocumented
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people over the age of 18 from being eligible for participation in Minnesota Care.
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To give a little background context on this, Minnesota's legislature had been in the process
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of trying to pass a two-year budget, and in May, they announced that they'd reached an
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agreement.
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Part of that agreement was the cutting of Minnesota Care access for the undocumented
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immigrants, but this budget agreement doesn't just become law because the party leaders,
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they all agreed on it.
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In Minnesota, the members of the state house and senate don't vote on the full budget as
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a yes or no bill, like one thing.
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They vote on each piece individually.
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Thus, even though they had this agreement for the budget, it could still lead to fights
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down the road or potential compromises needing to be made between lawmakers.
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Democrats in the house were trying very hard to get the Republicans to budge on the Minnesota
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Care issue, but it was very clear that this was a hard line for the GOP.
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The GOP also made it fairly clear that they were willing to shut down the government and
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not vote to pass other areas of the budget if they didn't get their way on this part,
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which is part of why it ended up passing.
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Hortman was the only member of the DFL to vote for the bill, but it would have passed
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with or without, like if she had just abstained, it would have passed.
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I can't see for sure, but I really suspect that she voted the way that she did as a sign
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of good faith, given her role as the caucus leader and the former speaker of the state
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house.
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Given other recent votes that she made, like voting against trans athlete bans in women's
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sports, I'm not convinced of Alex's insinuation that she was just about to switch parties.
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Alex is using this narrative to suggest that she was killed by Democrats as a punishment
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for not toeing the line.
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That is why this piece he has pulled from Twitter.
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The next thing Alex is repeating from memes that he saw was that the alleged shooter was
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a high-level Tim Walz appointee and a no-kings organizer.
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The shooter did have no-kings flyers in his car, but that's not evidence that he was an
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organizer for these protests or even involved.
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The question of the shooter being a Tim Walz appointee is an interesting one, though, because
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there's some truth to that.
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Alex says that he was a high-level appointee, but how high-level is high-level?
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What does that mean?
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He was a member of the Minnesota Workforce Development Board.
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Is that high-level or is that mid-level?
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No clue.
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Low-level, who knows?
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No idea what that is.
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Alex says that Walz appointed him to be on this board because that's supposed to create
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this connection between him and Walz that can't be explained.
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Why would Walz choose this guy, of all people, to put on this board, this high-level appointment?
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What Alex fails to report is that the shooter was appointed to the board by former governor
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Mark Dayton in 2016 for a three-year term, and Walz just re-upped his appointment in
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2019.
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There's no reason to assume that Walz even really knew who this guy was.
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This is the level of appointment that might be relegated to a lower-level staffing decision.
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Alex is using this narrative to imply that Walz was in on the killing, probably as the
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person pulling the strings.
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The specific details of how Alex wants to play this story aren't totally clear yet,
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but the implications you're supposed to come away from this intro with are, one, the entire
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country is on fire because of the LA protests, and two, the shootings of these lawmakers
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and their families in Minnesota are false flags that were carried out by the left, likely
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targeting one of their own who they knew was going to defect to the Patriots' side soon,
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probably orchestrated by Tim Walz.
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So that's where we're at, right out of the gate.
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Pretty good.
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It's a good start.
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I mean, you know, what else would they say?
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There's nothing else to say.
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You're not going to be like, let's wait and see what the...
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Of course not.
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Right.
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Who gives a shit?
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Culverheads prevail.
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I mean, yeah.
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The reality is these people have just made themselves irrelevant in every possible way
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to anybody who's listening.
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Do you mean Alex?
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Yeah.
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Like, if you are doing this, then you shouldn't be listened to, period.
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Sure.
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You know?
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Like, it is that simple.
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If you are a person who is like, well, we figured it out, then you're unlistenable to,
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period.
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Well, I think that, yeah, I would agree with you generally, but I think that there's some
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people who just want that immediate knee-jerk reaction.
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Sure.
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And also, you're making yourself irrelevant to them because you were revealing that all
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you're doing is Twitter shit.
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Exactly.
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And so that, like, yeah, it's a bummer.
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It's just, it's a depressing...
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You've rendered voices meaningless.
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Yeah.
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But I think that if you're Alex, there is probably, like, a pretty strange feeling you
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get when you see that news of, I have been ramping up for a while.
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Yeah.
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That this is the day that the wave of Patriot, fifth wave, breaks, and God is pointing us
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towards this date, and this is, these protests are going to be the ones where the commies
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take over a thousand areas of the country.
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Yeah.
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I just think that you probably have to wake up and see that and be like, oh shit, I gotta
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do something.
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I mean...
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People are going to be looking at me.
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If I'm, here's what I'm thinking.
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I'm thinking, well, obviously I wouldn't be one of them because this is how I think.
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I'm thinking, I hope, if I'm a Republican even, I would think like, boy, I hope this
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doesn't do what, I hope this doesn't work, basically.
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I hope this doesn't succeed in pushing, because if I demonstrably prove that political assassinations
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work, that's not good for any politicians.
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It's a rough road to go down.
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Yeah.
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That's for sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I think that if you're able to directly minimize and spin political assassinations-
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Ooh, not good.
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That easily- Yeah.
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Then, I mean, one of the things that I think is incredibly shocking is how it hasn't been
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that long and it does not feel like this is a story that matters.
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Not a big deal.
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Not a big deal.
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Anymore.
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No?
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That's terrifying.
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Well, I mean, hey, Kyle Kinane had a really great bit where he was talking about how one
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of his favorite genres of film is, oh no, the president's been kidnapped and that's
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just not fun to watch anymore.
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Now you're just kind of like, well, I mean, man, it's tough out there.
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It's rough.
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It's rough.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just, you know, it's a bummer.
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This is all a gigantic bummer.
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I wouldn't- The information space that this, like containing
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this- Yeah.
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Is a disaster.
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Imagine.
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Okay.
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You can, right.
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Maybe here's Alex's long-term plan.
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We retroactively make it okay for him to have done all of the horrible things around Sandy
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Hook because now everybody does them.
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Is that a possible, is that a legal argument?
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No, no, no, no.
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See, I made everyone on the planet me.
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Now you can't judge me.
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I don't know.
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Retroactively, I don't know if it's going to help.
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Probably not.
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Maybe it'll help him feel better.
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Possible.
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So Alex, you know, he goes to the news about this stuff and by that, of course, I mean,
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he's reading a tweet.
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Yeah, that sounds great.
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I'm talking about police sources in Minnesota, the suspect in the shooting of Minnesota state
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lawmakers is Vance Luther Balter.
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And there is a reported photo of Vance Luther Balter being reported by the Minnesota News,
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the New York Post and others.
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It appears as the same Balter who was appointed to the governor's workforce deployment board
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2019.
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He appointed to the governor's workforce department council 2016.
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Continuing, here is his appointment by the governor.
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Alex is tripping all over himself reading this tweet and I'm pretty sure the reason
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why is that he doesn't want to accidentally read something that doesn't work for the narrative.
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All that's important right now is that Walls appointed him to a position and we need to
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make that position look prestigious.
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Alex can't get any of the words in the name of the board correct, probably because he
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knows that anyone would hear the name of that board and instantly know that it's probably
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a volunteer kind of thing.
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He also knows that it's important to preserve the impression that he and Walls have a special
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connection.
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So it needs to be brushed aside that the shooter was in that position before Walls was.
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Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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No, it doesn't matter.
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It was part of a long game to do the shooting thing.
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So one of the things that Alex is really preoccupied with is the danger of optics.
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Not surrounding this shooting per se, but the protests that are coming later in the
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day.
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Right.
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They're calling Trump a fascist and a dictator and the White House and Pentagon fear they're
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going to try to have a Tiananmen Square moment at one of these parades today in D.C. where
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people will run out and jump in front of the tanks and try to act like they're being attacked
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by tanks or something.
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Like we saw with the senator out in California confronting Noem during a TV interview she
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was doing inside a federal building, running up.
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Hey, I'm going to get you.
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So they would touch him and say, who are you?
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And he would fight them and they could he could say he was being oppressed.
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They're just trying to trigger some type of Tiananmen Square event or Kent State event.
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That's really what they want.
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But people are really seeing through this now.
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So I've heard this come up a lot on Alex's show in this time period, this fear of the
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left creating a Kent State or Tiananmen Square moment and how that's bad for Trump's optics.
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I wouldn't worry about that too much if I were him.
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Like we've seen a lot of horrible shit in the past year.
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They're just trying to capture pictures and videos that crystallize the severity of the moment.
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The kind of stuff that the characters in that Civil War movie that Alex didn't watch would
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capture and give them PTSD.
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At the beginning of all this, Trump said that he could shoot someone on the street and not
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lose support.
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And that's more true now than it was then.
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He could run over someone in a tank and I don't think it would matter.
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The reason that Alex brings this up a lot is because he knows that it's a possible way
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that the extreme right could lose popular support.
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If Trump were to roll over someone in a tank, Alex is afraid that the more normie side of
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the GOP would finally say enough is enough and that could erode the power base.
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In order for that not to happen, Alex needs to create an atmosphere where Trump driving
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over someone in a tank is acceptable.
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The easiest way to do that is to preemptively declare that any Kent State or Tiananmen Square
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type moment is staged by the protesters to make Trump look bad.
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Normally, seeing someone run over by a tank would probably bum you out and make you feel
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mad at the force that the tank represents because it's a brutal dictator thing and you
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have an empathetic human response to that.
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By preemptively invalidating any possible event like this from being real, Alex is allowing
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his audience to cheer on the force that would drive over someone in a tank while getting
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to pretend that they're still the type of people who wouldn't support that kind of thing.
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They wanted to get run over by the tank, really?
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I don't love watching this person get run over by a tank.
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I'm not for it.
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Eh.
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But they wanted it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really matter if you run him over with the tank as long as
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you get the pick because the guy didn't get run over with the tank.
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They, I mean, you can't prove it, but they totally murdered that guy later.
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Like they just asked him to move out of the way.
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And then because we don't know who he is or where he's from and we have no further information
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about him, one thing you could probably infer from that is that guy is super dead.
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But I, I, you know, like you understand that the Tiananmen Square moment can't be manufactured
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unless the one guy driving the tank is like doing it.
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Like you could just be like, hey guys, we're not going to do it.
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We're just not going to do it.
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We're not.
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Everybody will get out of our tanks.
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We'll, we'll go shake the guy's hands.
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We'll have a good time.
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Like you have to be running over people with tanks to be the Tiananmen Square moment.
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Sure.
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Kent State didn't happen because they like forced that guy to do all that stuff.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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But I think that Alex knows that the present climate is not restrained.
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Right.
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We've got so many guys who just can't fucking wait to kill people.
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Uh, that it's like, how do we not kill people?
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Alex just had Stuart Rhodes on.
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I mean, it's crazy, you know, like w w of course, of course.
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So uh, the commies, yeah, they're all over the place.
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False flagging.
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They just can't stop false flagging.
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They can't.
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So that's their plan.
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It's been their plan.
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And now they are really trying to take it into high gear.
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And you're going to have also a lot of lone crazies inside the Democrat party system that
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are going to go out and carry out events themselves.
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You already saw in Pennsylvania, a crazed leftist because the governor Shapiro wasn't
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communist enough for him going and firebombing his house while he was in it and burning down
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a large portion of it.
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But those stories hit the news and leave.
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So earlier this year, a guy named Cody Balmer threw a Molotov cocktail into Josh Shapiro's
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home.
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And I guess Alex has decided that it's because he was a commie and Shapiro wasn't commie
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enough for him.
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Sounds true.
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That's fun and all, but I'll just read it to you here from the Associated Press about
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this guy and his brother.
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Quote, the brothers also disagreed on politics.
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Cody Balmer, who's a registered as an unaffiliated voter, had always been politically interested
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and considered himself more of an independent than anything else, but tried to convince
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the family to vote for Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, said his brother.
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I'm not even trying to say that he's a Trump guy or anything like that.
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This was a man who was in the grips of some serious mental health problems.
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If you read what his family has said in interviews, it's clear that he'd been in and out of hospitals
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and frequently resisted taking prescribed meds.
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It's very sad and he seemed to have also taken an interest in Gaza.
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But just like with him trying to get his family to vote for Trump, I don't think that's a
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coherent part of any political identity.
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CBS News released the text of the 911 call that he made after setting Shapiro's house
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on fire.
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And he says, quote, I don't really have an emergency.
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I would like to apologize.
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Senator Josh Shapiro needs to know that Cody Balmer will not take part in his plans for
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what he wants to do to the Palestinian people.
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He needs to leave my family alone.
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He needs to get his eyes off my daughters and he needs to stop having my friends killed
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like he killed.
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He had Manny killed two weeks ago or last week on Saturday.
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He was a guy who was struggling, but also a guy with a pretty clear history of domestic
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violence.
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So don't get me wrong.
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I don't want to make him out to be some kind of tragic figure.
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He seems like a violent, abusive, mentally unwell guy.
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But what he doesn't seem like is a commie who was just mad that Josh Shapiro wasn't
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commie enough.
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But Alex is right about something.
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And that is that these stories just come and go in the media, which is ironically why Alex
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can get away with playing the game that he's playing here, calling this guy a commie who's
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just mad that Josh Shapiro wasn't commie enough.
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Yep.
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So he's kind of complaining about the very thing that feeds him.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like it's so hard with these political things because people talk about like an ideology
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motivating people in this regard.
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But that's that's really awfully vague.
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Like nobody's motivated on either side by like, oh, we need a two percent progressive
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additional tax on.
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You know what I mean?
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It's when we're here, these guys are violent people, regardless of what political party
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they're in.
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It just so happens that one political party is willing to use them in the way that they
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want to be used.
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Yeah.
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And the other political party is trying to keep them from being used that way.
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But you know, maybe not keeping them healthy in order to you know, like there's there's
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a reason that they're vulnerable enough to be used in that kind of regard.
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So Alex gets back to talking about the shooting.
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Yes.
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And the shooter.
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Right.
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Who is still alive.
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Very responsibly, I assume.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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And he reflects on the fact that maybe it's a good thing that he's still alive so we can
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get the full story from.
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Yes, that is great.
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Can you imagine if a Trump MAGA person went to two state lawmakers, a senator and a House
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member boy, can a legislator and shot them and killed them.
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Killed the senator and her husband, seriously wounded the state rep and their spouse and
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is on the run right now.
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And the police just thought, hey, there's another lawmaker close to here.
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Let's go check there.
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And there he is in the parking lot coming out after he just killed these people.
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They died by the police got to him right there.
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And shoots at the police and then just runs off.
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So too bad the police weren't able to get this guy.
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But maybe that's a silver lining.
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Maybe he survives.
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We can find out who put him up to it.
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We already know from interviews with the shooters, roommate and longtime best friend that he
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was a fan of Info Wars.
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He was an active viewer of the show.
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So it's a reasonable question to ask if he's listening to this episode.
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He would have to know that Alex would cover this shooting.
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And if you're a real Info Warrior, you probably think Alex can come up with the best spin
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to make sure that Trump and the extreme right don't get any blame for the shootings.
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It's hard for me to imagine that he wouldn't be listening and maybe taking cues from what
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Alex is saying.
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Like here, Alex is saying maybe it's good that the guy is alive so he could tell us
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who put him up to it.
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Before the shooter was caught, they found a Buick that he was driving abandoned.
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And inside there was a letter to the FBI where he claimed that he'd committed the assassinations
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on behalf of Tim Walz.
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Walz was pulling the strings and he was supposed to also kill Amy Klobuchar so Walz could take
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her Senate seat.
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All of the reporting that I can find around this letter refer to it as rambling and full
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of conspiracies.
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And while I haven't read the actual letter, so I can't say for sure, it kind of makes
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sense to me.
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These murders were carried out as an extension of the Information War.
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And thus how the media covers it and what stories can be told about the murders, they're
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just as important as the murders themselves.
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More so than in almost any other case that we've come across before, at least in my memory,
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I get the feeling that this shooting has synergy with the right-wing media space.
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The timing and the impetus of the attack was pretty much scripted on Alex's show.
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And the broader social media world that he's a part of all were in the same kind of line,
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hyping up the 14th as the day that this shit kicks off and all that.
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The social media world, and Alex as a mouthpiece, crafted an explanation for how this wasn't
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the right-wing's fault by latching onto this tenuous connection with Tim Walz.
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And it seems to me like this guy most likely wrote a letter to the FBI that was meant to
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piggyback on these conspiracies that were being pitched by folks like Alex and tons
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of other dipshits on social media.
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I have to call out that I'm making some pretty large logic leaps there, and a fair amount
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of this could be off.
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But this is how it feels to listen to this episode.
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Like Alex is coaching a murderer how to spin his crimes not to implicate the larger information
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war.
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And that feels fucked up.
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Yeah!
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Yeah, that one's funny.
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It's funny that it wouldn't occur to anybody in the regular media.
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They would write it down as, oh, this is rambling and filled with conspiracy theories, as opposed
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to looking at it and being like, oh, this is Alex's episode from yesterday.
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Well, yeah, I think that Alex is pretty lucky that no one's listening to him.
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Yeah, I mean, that's fucking crazy.
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It's crazy that they would just ignore that, but it's not crazy.
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Anything that matters, they ignore.
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Right, but even the, like, you know, just to be totally clear, the Tim Walz connection
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conspiracy stuff is not, like, unique to Alex.
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Sure.
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I just am pretty sure, based on the way his roommate described it, I think he probably
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would be listening to InfoWars the day after he kills two state lawmakers.
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Absolutely.
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So if Alex is getting it from Twitter and then this guy's getting it from that or he's
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getting it straight from Twitter, who cares?
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People watch themselves on the news.
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Yeah, that is absolutely what he was doing.
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Absolutely.
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With a thousand percent.
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People in the middle of car chases are sometimes watching to the coverage.
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They're listening to the coverage of them being in the car chase with the peep.
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Yeah, I mean, come on.
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So that made listening to this episode feel particularly, glah.
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Yeah.
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And thankfully, Alex jumps to a different topic.
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Fair.
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Because, you know, Bilderberg's going on.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Bilderberg, you know, until about 15 years ago, didn't exist, the media said, the globalist
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consortium of the NATO, US, British Intel system.
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About 15 years ago, they started putting out their agenda.
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It was usually bull.
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It wasn't what they're actually getting into in the main.
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But this time they said how to depopulate, depopulation and replacement migration.
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He said it's on info wars dot com, the link to the Bilderberg website.
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So think how far we've come where even 15 years ago they would say it didn't exist.
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We were crazy.
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Depopulation.
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Literally in Virginia one time covering it.
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But 2009 and they set up just Jones made it up.
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No one was there.
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In the woods by a hotel just imagining.
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Didn't matter.
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I had helicopters and Secret Service and they had the Marines out there guarding them.
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It just doesn't exist.
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No one said that Alex made up that Bilderberg was meeting in Virginia.
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Someone pulled the fire alarm in the hotel he was staying in and Alex got all scared
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and freaked out about how they were trying to smoke him out of his room.
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And people made fun of him for making that up.
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I can understand how he'd want to reclaim that story because it's a bit embarrassing.
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It was an embarrassing story.
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It is true that the Bilderberg group has their agenda bullet points listed on their
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website and the 2025 meeting does include one that was quote depopulation and migration.
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You'll notice that Alex has interpreted this as how to depopulate and then just added the
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word replacement in before migration.
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Yeah no it's a good place to put it.
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Yeah.
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Depopulation might be on the agenda because it's something that you might be worried about
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like how in 2022 quote disruption of the global financial system was on their agenda.
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Not because they were doing it but because COVID had done it.
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I thought everything that they do there is a how to class.
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Yeah it must be.
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Yeah.
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So no I'm not convinced by this spin that he has on this one bullet point but come on
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Alex shouldn't be worried about these guys.
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His buddy Peter Thiel was there.
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Joe Rogan's boss the guy who owns Spotify he was there too.
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It's a cool guy club now.
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It is now.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Alex shouldn't be worried about these Bilderberg things.
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Yeah I mean you know what do you now that you're against the whole no kings why not
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have a bunch of kings.
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I think that's the way to go.
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There's never been a situation in my understanding like in my reading of history where a large
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group of aristocrats holding all of the power and wealth have done poorly for the major
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population.
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Yeah.
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And don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say the Bilderberg is super awesome or cool.
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I just don't think that their depopulation and migration bullet point means what Alex
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was pretending that it does.
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I think that his criticism is silly and doesn't get us anywhere towards solving the problems
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that Bilderberg type organizations may cause.
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OK so let's call it a double bluff.
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They named it that just so people would never believe that they were doing a how to depopulate
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and replacement migrate class.
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So then you do go.
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You show up.
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You're one of these rich people and they're just like here's what you do to depopulate
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and replace your population.
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What do you do you like.
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Do you do a double take like are we just are we just open up.
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Are we just saying it now.
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There's a part of me that wants to go to the next Bilderberg.
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Yeah see if we can get an invite.
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Yeah.
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Why not.
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Yeah.
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And if anybody knows anybody who built.
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Yeah come on.
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We're not rich but fuck it.
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We'll dress up nice.
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Yeah because we won't dress up nice.
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What that class is about how to depopulate.
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Yeah I would like to have that experience.
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I would like to know.
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Yeah yeah.
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It would fundamentally change my view on things.
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Yeah.
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I think it really would.
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Yeah.
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So Alex you know this is the day when the uprisings happening in thousand places.
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And so you want thousand places.
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Who wants to watch a bunch of like you know the protester videos and stuff.
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I think he quickly bores himself.
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Yeah that's right.
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So the uprising has definitely started.
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Most of the events start at three central around the country.
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And then and then and then the main ones start in about three hours.
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Five central spaced out across the country but on that time zone.
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So the next few hours it really kicks off.
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And this goes on for a while.
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You seem bored.
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I seem bored.
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You seem real bored.
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Eh it's kind of boring.
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Yeah I think he played this game out in 2016 and it's kind of been diminishing returns
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ever since.
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Yeah.
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But he has a little video of a protester who's talking.
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And you know what I think that try and see if you can tell where Alex laughs in this
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clip.
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Okay.
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But you know what I know growing up in a white nationalist evangelical home that it's hurt
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us deep in the inside.
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It's a psychic room.
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White supremacy is not the answer for white people.
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It hurts us.
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We have to let go of.
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Strange place to laugh.
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I mean it is kind of funny.
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It's a weird reaction.
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Yeah I mean listen I mean hey to each their own.
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I'm just saying that what that may be a little bit over the top.
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Just throwing that out there.
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Sure.
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Yeah I don't think that Alex is ready to engage with the subtler version of the argument that
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this protester is making.
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But I think that he was laughing because he does think that white supremacy is the answer
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for white people.
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Yeah absolutely.
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So he ends up just making fun of this protester for a while and does some voices and he's
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having a good time.
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The good news is this creature will not be breathing probably.
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But you have to feel sorry for her.
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Is that the good news?
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Guaranteed put the creature in public school.
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Out par with the private ones.
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And this pops out.
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I got.
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What a creature.
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Oh God.
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America's evil and white.
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It's white.
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The law makers have been shot and killed.
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They didn't vote to give the illegal aliens everything free.
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They had to be killed.
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So either white.
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Oh God.
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Oh God.
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Sorry.
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Channeling that.
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Bad acting.
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It's like two parts.
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Mental illness.
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Two parts.
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Acting.
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But they become the theater.
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What about demons?
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Although there are demons.
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There should be demons involved.
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Yeah it's just half bad acting and half mental illness.
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Mental illness demons?
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I guess you have to go bleh.
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Bleh.
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Yeah she was more bleh.
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Bleh.
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Yeah it's gotta be bleh.
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Bleh.
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It's all about the throat.
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Really.
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It's the epiglottis.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's a flesh.
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It's the epiglottis.
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It's a phlegm thing.
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Yeah that's how.
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The demons are the phlegm.
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Demons are the phlegm.
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Demons are the phlegm.
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It makes perfect sense.
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Um yeah I don't know.
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I find it silly to constantly call this person a creature.
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Seems a little bit dumb.
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Also they're young.
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You know like I think I don't know if like the clip that I played fully encapsulates
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it but I think this person had a little bit of a dramatic flair to themselves.
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But I also think they're young.
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And I think that it's kind of dumb to be an adult and criticize young people for being
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too dramatic.
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You know what I mean?
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It's dumb to be an adult and criticize young people probably period.
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Because frankly we're gonna die and they'll be the only ones left.
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Or at least to criticize them without the awareness that like they're young.
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You know what else?
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You were dumb too.
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Yes.
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Let's move on.
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Super dumb.
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Oh surprise the young person does a thing.
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Yeah we got it.
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Young people are gonna.
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I swear to you.
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Next year they're gonna do more things.
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They just don't stop.
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And then eventually they'll be old people and they'll say that about young people and
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we'll just do this whole fucking thing all over again.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex referenced earlier that Senator got in trouble.
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For coming into a press conference.
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Right.
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This was Alex Padilla.
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Oh okay.
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What did he do?
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Well we'll talk about it after Alex talks about how cool it was.
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Okay cool.
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Handcuffing a US Senator is a warning.
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The Atlantic yes.
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He just busts in a federal building runs up.
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I don't know who he is.
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Whoa.
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I'm gonna fight you.
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Get him down.
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I have a gun or something.
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Oh your senator will just stop attacking.
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No I'm a victim.
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Help me.
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I can't believe you did this to me.
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The warning.
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Not the million plus dead from fentanyl.
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Not the World War III.
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Not the human trafficking.
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Not the sex slavery.
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So Alex is talking about Senator Alex Padilla who got handcuffed and manhandled at a press
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conference that Kristi Noem was holding.
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And I don't really have much commentary about it.
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Like the video is widely available online so anybody can watch it for themselves.
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I think that some person could have a complaint that Padilla was disrupting the press conference.
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And that he wasn't being polite enough to Noem.
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I think you could.
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I might listen to that complaint from some person but not from Alex Jones who's famous
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for his bullhorn techniques.
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He paid listeners thousands of dollars to yell Bill Clinton's a rapist at Hillary's
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speaking events.
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It's true.
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This isn't political or even about ICE but Alex's take on this is just embarrassing.
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He's the agitation and disruption guy and now all of a sudden supposed to pretend that
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he thinks that Padilla should have been more polite and less disruptive.
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Yeah.
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Alex should just come out and say what he believes.
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That his disruptions are a necessary heroic part of democracy and that disruptions against
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his side are illegal.
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Just spit it out already.
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Yeah.
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It makes everything a lot easier.
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Yeah.
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This game where I'm supposed to pretend that there's like oh no this is bad disruption.
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But I mean it's the game that we play to live together you know because if everybody was
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just out and out honest about what Alex and his people believe then we gotta fight.
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We gotta fight.
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We gotta fight and somebody has to lose.
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And whoever loses you gotta suck it up because you lost.
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That's just how it's gotta go.
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But if we convince ourselves of like you know it could be meaning something else then we
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can just move on and live our lives.
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Maybe that's you know I do think that there are obviously lives we must tell ourselves
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to live in civilization.
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Maybe that's one of them.
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Yeah.
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Alex I think probably should be more concerned about essentially speech getting a senator
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handcuffed.
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Yeah that would be wise.
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I think he should.
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I think I honestly based on everything he's supposed to believe that should be a big deal.
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But this should be worse.
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U.S. Marines are out of Los Angeles to primarily detain army veterans.
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So yeah oh my gosh people get in their face they don't know what's going on they say OK
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detain them see what the cops do.
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Oh my God for the first time in U.S. history Marines struck a deadly attack today.
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It's shocking video.
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Oh my.
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When they actually touched the man by the arm.
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So they agitate.
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This goes on and they're just waiting for a kid's stay.
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This is literally what Alex has been yelling about for years.
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This is literally what he is called martial law.
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The carrying out of domestic police duties by military troops.
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A man was running to get to an appointment with the V.A. and he didn't realize that he'd
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entered a taped off area.
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He didn't hear the Marines when they told him to stop because he had his headphones
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in so they got him to the ground they put him into zip ties.
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He was held over two hours and then he was released without charges.
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This is so far past what Alex can accept that there's no real point in even maintaining
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the illusion that he cared about the stuff that he used to pretend he cared about.
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He never gave a shit about posse comitatus.
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It was all about exerting power.
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That was the way he felt he was able to exert some kind of power and possibly violence.
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Yeah, I mean.
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He can't make this mocking kind of a violent attack.
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He should be doing that about himself.
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Like, oh they're going to put me in a FEMA camp.
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Right?
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Yeah, but maybe we're thinking about it backwards.
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The actions are dictating his bullshit, right?
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So if what he believed before was actually true and what he actually believed, then you
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have to start a fight now.
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Like you have to start a civil war.
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They did it.
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They did the thing.
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The military arrested somebody on U.S. soil.
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It's got to be done.
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We got to.
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It's just.
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That's what he said.
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It's like an automatic kill switch.
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You know, it's like you don't even get to think about it.
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You know, to do it.
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Not necessarily.
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I think even within Alex's old framework, there is a way to deal with this without a
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civil war.
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But it must be taken very seriously.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It has to be like, this person must be court-martialed.
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There has to be a giant investigation of how we got to this point to begin with.
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You're probably going to end up with the Joint Chiefs of Staff getting fired.
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Probably some turnover in cabinet positions.
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A series of events so wildly improbable that civil war makes just far more sense on a logistics
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situation.
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Right, but I'm saying that there are other options.
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There are other options.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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It's not an automatic.
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I accept that.
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But yeah, this making fun of the idea that the military arrested a guy.
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Certainly that's not the.
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That one's not in there.
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That one's just not in there.
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What an asshole.
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Yeah, that's.
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Boy.
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He must just not think that the past is real.
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Right?
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He can't think that.
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Well, we don't have mallets with the past written on them.
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Because if we had mallets with the past written on them and then whenever you do something
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and the past is like, nuh-uh, and you get hit with the mallet, then you remember the
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past.
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That is true.
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We got to have mallets.
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I think that it's totally fine to forget about things and to make mistakes and grow over
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time.
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I think all of these things are ways that the present could not fully align with the
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past.
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Sure.
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But being cool with Marines arresting a guy.
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There's stuff.
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You know what?
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There's stuff I've grown past and I still get hit with a mallet that says past on it.
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Sure.
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You know?
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How come this guy?
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How come this doesn't get hit with a mallet?
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He should get hit with a mallet.
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He should get hit with a mallet.
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So we get back to the Minnesota shooter.
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They're really trying to figure out how to blame these lawmakers getting shot.
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They're not interested Republicans, but it's a Tim Walz staffer appointee.
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When police saw him, identified him, shooting at them, I think it's the same to say he's
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the guy.
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Alleged.
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And he's got all the no-king stuff in the police car if he runs off.
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The fake police or the real police car he somehow got.
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And so we've got lots of Mexican flags all over the country.
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We got feeds here for you.
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The Tim Walz though, appears to be politically motivated, but wonder if he's going to put
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any new statements out now about it being his staffer, his senior appointee on the labor
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board for the state.
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Alex is a ton of information wrong there, but it doesn't matter.
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The audience isn't coming to him for accuracy or else they would have left long ago.
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He doesn't have to be right.
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He just needs to feel right.
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And it feels right to the audience that this shooter wasn't someone like them.
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He's a different type of person.
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He's a commie.
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Yep.
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That's it.
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It is, it is...
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It's pacification.
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It's almost confusing why he tries to adhere to any of the truth.
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You know?
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Like just free.
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Just free yourself.
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Well, I think that some things would not be in your best interest.
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Like to say air isn't real or something like that.
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Sure.
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Fair enough.
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But it would be too much of a trick to subvert that kind of truth.
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Yeah.
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Well, probably.
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I mean, it would be worse for him strategically if instead of inspiring people to murder their
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political opponents, he inspired them to jump, thinking they can fly.
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Well, we know that there's a line because he does not put up with like flat earth stuff.
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True.
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So like there is a line that he thinks is like beyond this...
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Obviously this is stupid.
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Right.
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Oh my God.
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So truth matters somewhere.
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Yeah.
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It's just figuring out exactly what that line is is almost impossible.
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People are weird, man.
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Yeah.
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People are weird.
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So Alex is talking a little bit about ICE and their detentions and arrests and stuff.
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I think he accidentally reads a statistic that he didn't mean to read.
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Didn't want that one out there?
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Honest arrest of non-criminal eagles up 800%.
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Well, they're all criminals, but yeah, they've been focusing mainly on the gang bangers and
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drug dealers and that was what they focused on.
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Now they're moving in to people that are here illegally, period, and that didn't go to their
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hearings.
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Oh, the hearings.
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So 800%, huh?
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800% is a lot.
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Yeah.
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I think even he was a little bit surprised.
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There's no situation where 800% should be used, probably.
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Unless it's like, oh, no, actually I cannot think of one that is like, oh, we're over
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year over year, we're up 800%.
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That is not a warning sign.
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Even if your business is doing well, we're up 800%, then what happened?
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What is going on?
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We're out of control.
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We're going to lose everything.
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Like it's nuts.
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800%.
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I hit 800% of one pin when I bowled.
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I got an eight.
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Got an eight.
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800%.
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Of one pin.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, it's tough to pick up a spare.
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Right.
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I'd have to get 200%.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Anyway, Alex, I think he has gotten some messages that he needs to be a little harder on Israel.
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Right.
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Right.
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Sure.
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I think that he's maybe seeing that the trend in the right wing world, there's a growing
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popularity of folks who are more like Nick Fuentes and are more openly critical of Israel.
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And the way that Alex has tried to play this game where he's like, look, I don't like Netanyahu,
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but I don't want Muslims coming here.
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Like that game is not enough.
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And it opens him up to way too much attack from these antisemitic critics that he has.
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Yeah.
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They're like, oh, you work for Israel kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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I imagine as Christianity, the actual, the religion religion becomes less important to
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that subset of people who want to destroy the world, then yeah, it would be harder to
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make that same leap that so many Republicans do, which is just like, we support Israel
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because that's where the end of the world's going to start.
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You know?
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So it makes sense.
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Yeah.
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And I think that there is a shift that is starting.
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It's not meaningful because he still really doesn't have a position.
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Sure.
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But he, now that Iran and Israel are fighting, I think that he's like, well, it's going to
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come to a head.
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I got to do something.
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Sooner or later you're going to have to pick something.
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Yeah.
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Iran has now kind of shifted his position to look, Iran's bad.
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I don't like the mullahs.
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Sure.
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I don't like Israel.
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Sure.
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Netanyahu's bad.
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What about him?
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But let's be honest.
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We overthrew the Shah, you know, we put, or we put in the Shah.
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I mean, yeah.
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That's a weird time for you to remember that fact, but fine.
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This is kind of like, it's all our fault.
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You know?
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I mean, yeah.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Agreed.
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All of this is our fault.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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I'm being more generous to his position than maybe I should be.
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Probably.
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It is like, you know, we've meddled in the region and you know, we destabilized Iran
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in order to put in like a friendlier.
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I broke all my best friend's toys and now I should just leave his house.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So he has this take that is like, I don't like either.
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I really hate Muslims.
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But it's kind of our fault in the past.
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It's a toss up guys.
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Yeah.
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So he plays a clip of some people talking about positive stuff about Iran.
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What world are we in in 2025?
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I don't know.
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I think he found it on TikTok.
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Do you know why Iran took our hostages back in the fucking seventies?
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Because fucking Jimmy Carter.
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Jimmy Carter started that shit.
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Iran just didn't out of nowhere be like, what the fuck, USA?
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And start calling us the devil?
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No, it's because our CIA is constantly over there fucking in their shit with Mossad and
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the fucking goddamn Jews.
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Confusing.
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Instigating bullshit.
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We are all fucked.
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Usually it's optimistic.
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I want to be, but I can't.
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Not on this.
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I have to be realistic.
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We're all fucked.
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We're all fucked.
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This is all fucked.
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Good luck.
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Long live the Republic.
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I like that guy.
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He's an elegant person.
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I'm not saying you can't cuss your answer, but I'm just saying he is.
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The timing on that was pretty good.
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I like this guy.
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I like that guy.
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Yeah.
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He's got a good head on his shoulders.
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Fucking around with Mossad and the Jews.
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I gotta be realistic.
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We're fucked.
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We're all fucked.
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I also think that somebody with, like, I don't think that you would say, I don't think you
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would frame it that way if you weren't antisemitic.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think you're saying the Jews in there.
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I think you're kind of tipping your hand a little bit to...
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Choosing the 70s arbitrarily for, oh yeah, just the 70s.
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Okay, no, that's fine.
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I don't believe that this is, I don't know who this person is, so I don't want to judge
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too harshly because I don't know the larger body of their work.
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I get a bad vibe.
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But second, I just think that you don't have a good position that includes that rant.
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Yeah.
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I would have liked, growing up, now that I've lived a lot and I've read a lot more about
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how things actually functioned, I would have liked a lot more nuance and understanding
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of multiple points of view from my history classes growing up.
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Sure.
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I would have liked it if they didn't just go like, ah, the gas crisis happened in the
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70s and then Jimmy Carter and yada yada yada.
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What are you going to do?
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You know, it would have been nice if they gave you some context for all the things that
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were going on so you don't believe in bullshit when you grow up.
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But I don't know if somebody being like, you know what else?
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It's Carter's fault in the 70s where fuck would have helped my education.
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You know?
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Well, look, I went to Missouri public schools.
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I don't know what they were like in Illinois.
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They weren't that.
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But is it worse?
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That's a good question.
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Wait, yes, yes.
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No, no, no, school's better.
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School's better.
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School's better.
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I take it back.
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I take it back.
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I got it backwards.
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Okay.
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So Alex goes on to just make up some fun stuff about this shooting.
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Yeah, great.
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We've got a major update in the Governor Tim Tampon dispenser walls situation and the man
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they caught dressed up like a police officer with a stolen police car.
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They said it's one of their police cars.
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They just killed a state senator and her husband and shot and almost killed a state
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rep and other spouse.
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We actually have a clip.
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I forgot to play of the senator where she talks about, no, we're not going to vote for
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illegal aliens to get health care.
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And she was leading the Democrat group that was against that.
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And so was the other state rep that was shot.
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So very, very interesting now.
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And we'll go to that video in a moment.
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But first, Minnesota shooting suspect car had no King flyers and sickening manifesto
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with targets.
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Police warrant the suspect that Minnesota shooting had a list of targets that include
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representative Melissa Portman and Senator John Hoffman who both got shot.
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Speaker Melissa Portman and her husband were killed.
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So you can see how Alex has crafted this narrative into being primarily about Tim Walz, not about
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the shooter or even the victims.
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This is how he jumped back into the story by saying that they have an update on the
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Tim Walz situation.
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The messaging is very clear here.
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The goal is to pin this on walls, which is exactly what the shooter ended up trying to
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do.
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Yeah.
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Beyond that, Alex is just making shit up and reaching bad conclusions here.
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For one thing, the car that the shooter used wasn't a stolen police car.
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Alex has just assumed that because the police said that the car looked a lot like a police
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car.
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Second, Melissa Portman was a member of the Minnesota State House and the other target,
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John Hoffman, was in the state Senate, but Alex has them mixed up.
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Portman wasn't leading the Democratic group that was opposed to extending Minnesota care
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to undocumented immigrants.
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She was the only member of her party who voted that way.
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Alex is making up a story about them because it adds to the intrigue of the whole thing
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and because he's a monstrous liar.
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Also, I think that long pause at the end of the clip was because Alex didn't know if he
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should read the part about the shooter's target list being a bunch of Democratic politicians
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and abortion rights advocates.
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I suspect he got to that line in the story and he couldn't tell in the moment if that
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helped or hurt the narrative, so his brain just paused.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Would it make more sense for this guy to go and shoot people who support abortion?
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False flagging.
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That's what they would want to do.
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Right.
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If the angle is that I'm trying to pin this on Tim Walz, then Tim Walz wouldn't want to
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false flag that.
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Maybe he would.
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Maybe he would?
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This is why you pause.
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But would he?
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This is why your brain just says don't say anything for a second.
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Yeah, it just doesn't work.
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It doesn't work.
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You know what it is?
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It's too complicated.
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You're just complicating things too much.
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One ingredient in the soup too many.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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So Alex gossips a little bit about how this lady who got murdered, she was totally just
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about to leave the Democratic Party.
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Sounds true.
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And here she is literally just last week talking, and the word was she was about to leave the
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Democrat Party.
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Well now her spirit has left this plank.
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Here it is.
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I know that people will be hurt by that vote.
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We worked very hard to try to get a budget deal that wouldn't include that provision.
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DFL speaker emerita Melissa Hortman, emotional following the House's adjournment from a special
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session Monday.
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Hortman was the lone DFL lawmaker to cast a vote to cut Minnesota care access for undocumented
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immigrants.
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It's a move she made with a heavy heart.
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I did what leaders do.
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I stepped up and I got the job done for the people of Minnesota.
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The rest of this news report goes on to talk about how the GOP wouldn't budge on this provision.
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So nothing was going to happen unless somebody, one of the Democrats voted for it or didn't
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vote.
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This provision was necessary for them.
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And so when she's talking about that, she's very emotional about the fact that she made
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this vote that was against what she believed in.
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She is not somebody who's like, oh, I think I'm gonna leave the Democratic Party.
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I'm leading this resistance to fuck over immigrants or whatever.
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And this is ghoul shit.
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This to me is disgusting.
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When Alex says the word is she was going to leave the Democratic Party, now her spirit
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has left the earth or whatever.
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He should apologize immediately after that clip ends.
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That is so inappropriate.
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Nope.
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She died that morning.
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Yep.
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Fucked up.
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Yep.
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Fucked up.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Alex is going to talk about Iran and Israel.
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Great.
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Two things that he knows everything about.
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Well, but he's not actually.
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He gets sidetracked.
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Wise.
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I want to get into the big developments in the Iran-Israel escalation and where I see
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that going, what the different angles are of that in just a moment.
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Probably well.
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And then I'm going to get into one of their favorite hoaxes they're pushing again that
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you see everywhere.
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And that deals with claiming that polar bears can't swim.
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Oh, boy.
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What?
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Yeah.
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What?
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Can polar bears swim?
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No, you can't do that.
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I mean, I don't I don't.
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It's jarring, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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I if.
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You forgot that feeling, didn't you?
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If the FCC exists for any reason, I like show tits.
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Have fun.
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But full bush.
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I don't give a shit.
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Get it out of there.
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But stop that from happening.
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The whiplash of that.
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That was fucking horrifying.
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It's unsafe at any speed.
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It is.
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That hurts.
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This is where we need Ralph Nader to come in and get seatbelts.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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For this kind of content.
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If we're going to do I know it when I see it bullshit Supreme Court.
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And I know it when I see it.
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And that needs to be stopped.
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So we're going to talk about Ron Israel.
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But hey, what about these polar bears?
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No.
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Can they swim?
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I'm going to recycle a climate change.
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All of my political beliefs are now mallet based.
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I'm just going to write time periods.
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1950s mallet.
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That's when you made the mistake.
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Jimmy Carter.
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We're fucked.
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Mallet.
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There it is.
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So Alex rants a little bit about the various thoughts he has that shoot off of the polar
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bear swim.
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Yeah, great.
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Overall, aggregate sea level has stayed the same for 500 years.
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The watermark.
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So yeah, let's show you a few of these, okay?
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We've got 200 year old photos.
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And what does it show?
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1878 to 2018.
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Unprecedented sea level rise in Sydney Harbor over the last 140 years due to massive climate
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change.
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And it is exactly the same.
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Interesting.
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And we can show you hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and
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hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of and we can show
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you Al Gore saying by 2013, it'll all be underwater by 2017.
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The ice caps will be gone.
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This feels so stupid.
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America is supposed to be in a civil war that kicked off all these no kings protests that
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are happening while Alex is on air that he's supposed to be monitoring.
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Multiple lawmakers in Minnesota were the targets of assassination the night before.
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Israel and Iran are bombing each other.
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And Alex is arguing with no one about climate change memes.
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Who's he trying to convince?
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Does anyone in his audience care about sea levels at this point?
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Is there possibly a single Info Wars listener who might be swayed by Al Gore?
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This game is dead because there is no battle that Alex needs to be fighting here.
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Trump is all about the big corporations and he doesn't give a shit about environmentalism.
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So Alex doesn't need to be out here trying to run propaganda against regulation and climate
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considerations.
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It's all done, buddy.
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After the Supreme Court overturned Chevron, the EPA doesn't really have any authority.
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He's wasting his time.
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This feels so dumb.
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I was thinking about throwing a water filled or a water balloon filled with pee, Adam.
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And then I thought, I've never done that before.
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And then I thought about it another step further.
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Have you ever done that?
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No comment.
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Right.
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That's a yes.
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See, here's the thing.
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I suddenly realized that I don't want to get involved in the logistics of moving urine
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into the actual water balloon.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm assuming.
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And then I just thought was like, well, without tools, this is clearly just going to be an
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avenue for me to pee on myself, obviously.
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That is true.
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So then you get a funnel, right?
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You think funnels are the way to go, but you don't know if that's going to have enough
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water pressure to expand the balloon.
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What if it just pops right out at you?
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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Look, these are all questions that you come to ask yourself very quickly when you decide
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to bark on this path.
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Your first piss-filled balloon is a lot of trial and error.
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I do think that I can say that no one has ever got it right the first time.
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That's definitely.
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Look, it's a...
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What about a piss-filled mallet?
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It was just a lot of fun because while that clip was going on, the tail end of it had
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me with a bunch of different images of me in a cartoon scenario where I'm peeing all
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over myself.
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So that was nice.
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That was a nice little...
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You'll get back at Alex by peeing on yourself.
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Yeah, I'll just have piss-covered hands as I've got a little balloon wrapped around my
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penis.
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Yeah, that works.
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So I think, I feel like there's some real, real, real, real, real serious stuff afoot.
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The military has arrested somebody.
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Senators are getting handcuffed for asking questions aggressively at a press conference.
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Political assassinations.
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Political assassinations.
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And I felt so weird with Alex just going into polar bears.
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It felt like denial.
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It felt more like denial than anything else.
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Like this, everything's too much.
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I'm gonna retreat to back when I could yell about Al Gore and climate credits.
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It really felt pathetic.
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I felt like it was...
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It is the Infowars version of an Addams Family values whenever they're at summer camp and
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they send them to the small house where all the Disney films are.
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It was very much like, you know what?
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I'm gonna return to a safer, more idyllic place and I'm just gonna watch Disney film.
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Oh, polar bears can't swim.
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I bet they can.
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Yeah.
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And I just, I don't know.
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It put a bad taste in my mouth.
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Not good.
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So we'll see what happens over the intervening days.
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Probably not much.
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Probably not much.
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Eventually it is obviously gonna come out that this guy was an Infowars listener and
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Alex is gonna have to...
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Are we in the future?
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What?
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We are in the future, right?
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Do you mean right now?
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We have not been Civil War'd as of yet.
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I mean, are there branching paths?
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Ooh, man.
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You just got multiverse'd.
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Did our vacation cause a split path?
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Are we the reason that we either are in a Civil War or are not in a Civil War depending
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on which pathway we are in?
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I think on a pretty official sense, we're not in a Civil War right now.
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But yes, we are in Alex's show.
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Okay, then let me ask you this question.
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Because he has not declared an end of hostility.
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That's fair.
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So we are in a Civil War until he officially ends it.
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Until we go to Appomattox, it's still going on.
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Someone's gotta sign something.
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Someone's gotta sign something.
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Gotcha.
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Well, that makes sense.
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It's gonna be a long Civil War.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's all at www.lunchtime.com.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, NeoDzxVark.
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I am mysterious professor.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
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And now, here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
