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All the way down WAS THERE SAYING FOR OH JESUS
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them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge fight.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Need, need money.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Andy and Chansles.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Chan, Andy and Chansles.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Chansles, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is over the weekend.
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I went to first a Cubs game with my cousin.
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Go Cubs go.
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We do that annually.
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Go Cubs go.
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And then his daughter had a graduation party.
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She's graduated high school, and now she's moving on to another educational system.
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Sure.
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So yeah, it was a very cousin-heavy weekend that I enjoyed immensely.
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So I want to ask a little question about this graduation.
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Sure.
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I remember back when I was in high school, there was kind of like a...
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There were some people who were interested in being at the top of the class.
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Sure.
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Is this niece or what would she be to you?
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Second cousin.
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Second cousin?
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Yeah.
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She at the top of her class?
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She concerned about that?
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Making the grade?
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You know what?
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Here's what I'll say.
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I don't know too much about her whole deal because as a childless adult, probably best
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not to get too into life.
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So you don't know about extracurriculars?
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You don't know if she ran track?
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Nah.
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Nah.
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I think she played softball or not.
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These are possible things.
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One of the two.
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It could be...
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She either did or didn't.
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She either did or didn't.
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There's a 50-50 chance.
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Well, I hope she got into the college of her choice and you all had a good time.
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I do know she did that.
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I do know she's very excited to go to said college.
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I won't reveal it.
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Yeah, you don't want to dox that college.
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Nope, not going to happen.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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I did not get into the college of my choice, but I dropped out of high school and got a
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GED, so I went to the University of Missouri.
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That'll work.
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Take what you can get.
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How you doing?
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What's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is...
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Hey, look, I got a dark spot and it's me.
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I don't know.
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I'm sorry that we're late on the episode today.
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I had a little headache yesterday and if I'm being totally honest, I spent too much time
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on home decor projects this weekend.
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Sure.
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I showed you my little couple plant nooks that I've been working on and I mismanaged
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my time a tiny bit.
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So that played into it and I...
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What are you going to do?
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I think everybody will appreciate you spending a little bit more time on yourself.
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Sure.
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And my plant nooks.
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Your plant nooks.
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We may have plant watch coming back.
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I like it.
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Quite frankly.
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We'll see how these greens work out.
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It's about time we had something watch coming back.
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Get some lettuce popping up.
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Popping up.
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So Jordan, today we got an episode to go over.
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Okay.
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We're going to be talking about June 6th, 2025.
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Right.
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I wanted to cover more territory and more ground, but there's a lot going on and I
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am working on a little thread of something that is a bit heavy.
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We are still in the breakup stage.
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Yes.
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We have not gotten back together.
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Well, we've seen Chase Geyser and Owen Schroyer's response to Elon Musk's tweet storm.
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Right.
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The thermonuclear bomb in the information war between Trump and Musk.
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Yeah.
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But we still haven't seen Alex's response.
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Right.
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And so that's what we get to partake in today.
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Excellent.
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We get to see Alex come back to the studio after his time at court and see how he handles
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it.
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Probably well.
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Oh, so good.
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Yeah.
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So today we'll do that, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, hey Maf, it's your very gay sister Brody taking a little breaky from writing
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her very gay fantasy novel to say you're welcome for introducing you to Knowledge Fight, the
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chemotherapy you didn't need for Infowars, the cancer you didn't have until you started
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listening.
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Thank you so much.
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I've been scagdling your content.
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I finally a policy wonk.
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Barry, it's shite being Scottish.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes.
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Thank you very much.
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I don't think we actually have any fans in Scotland though.
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Not anymore.
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Because no one beat you up.
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Not after, not after that.
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I was, I was letting you speak, speak Scottish as well as you could so you would get beat
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up next time we go to Scotland.
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I think it's endearing the way that I can't pronounce anything though.
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I think, I feel like the fans enjoy that.
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Okay.
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Whereas you, person for a bruise.
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I just have it coming.
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That's fair.
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So we start off here and Alex has a take right out of the gate.
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Of course.
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And to refresh everybody in case they haven't heard the last episodes, Mike Johnson was
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to blame for Chase.
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Chase guys.
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Fucking asshole Mike Johnson.
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Right.
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And then Owen evolved it a little bit into being more a, this is Trump's fault for siding.
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Right.
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With Mike Johnson.
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Right.
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So here's where Alex is at.
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We are now less than 24 hours into the mega firestorm and the nightmare scenario.
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Nightmare-io.
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That I have intentionally warned of in the last couple years, but in the last six months
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intensely, in fact, to have the archivist grab it just from like a couple months ago.
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Where if the Trump administration and the American people and MAGA didn't back musk
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when he was under unprecedented deep state attack, his family, himself, his companies,
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that analyzing his psychology and I've become quite the expert on it and his actions is
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very predictable that he could be turned against Trump.
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So this is an interesting angle for Alex to land on because it really just makes every
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party involved look terrible.
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Elon Musk is painted as an entitled idiot child who has no fundamental allegiance to
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anything other than himself.
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And if he feels like people aren't sufficiently worshiping him, he'll tweet out that they're
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forcing the FBI to cover up that they're a pedophile.
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That's fair.
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Musk seems like a bad person, a loose cannon and an unacceptable figure to ever let on
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your team.
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True.
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Trump seems like a dipshit because he lets someone like Elon get deeply entangled with
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his campaign and presidency.
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Trump's supposed to be the guy who knows how to run the government like a business and
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yet he teamed up with the billionaire baby and then decided to take away his pacifier,
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ensuring that he throws a tantrum.
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Accurate so far.
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And Alex seems like an idiot too because he spent the last year at least promoting Elon
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as the most important genius mind in the world.
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But apparently the whole time Alex knew that Musk was a time bomb waiting to go off as
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soon as he didn't get his way.
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Very predictable.
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This is not the Elon that Infowars has sold their audience.
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So in order for Alex to pull off a, I knew this was going to happen at this point, he's
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also saying, I lied to you this whole time about Elon because I wanted his money and
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not to be kicked off Twitter.
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Yeah.
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It pains me to say this, but Alex had time to think about this and Chase's immediate
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reaction was a better spin.
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Chase got it, got it in one.
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I, I, I posit this to you perhaps by giving all of them idiot status that way, none of
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them have to be like, well, we're stupid.
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They're all equally smart.
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Right.
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Alex's friend, Mike judge made a movie about this.
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I think that kind of a scenario.
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Yeah, that seems right.
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So it's weird that Chase, like his first impulse is better than what Alex has come up with.
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Yeah.
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It still wasn't great and Owen improved on it.
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And there was that weird thing about Mike Johnson stealing his wife, but it was still
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better than this.
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It's interesting.
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It's interesting to me that they have the instinct to scapegoat instantaneously.
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They're like, Oh, these two are fighting.
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Let's go kill this guy.
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Makes sense.
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Right.
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Or at least it makes sense in a, in its, in its way.
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Alex doesn't have that.
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He's like, let me explain the dynamics of the, of the, the court.
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This is palace court dynamics.
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And it seems, it seems bad to explain why the King is good.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And like, yeah, Owen and Chase were kind of coming from a place of like trying to redirect
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blame somewhere else.
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Right.
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And Alex is trying to retain the positive image of both Elon and Trump.
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Right.
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And that's a very different motivation.
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Yeah.
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It's almost like Owen and Chase are doing what Info Wars traditionally does.
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Yeah.
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And Alex has become this new thing where he just cleans boots with his tongue.
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Right.
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See, okay.
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So the emperor and Mark Anthony are both equally cool, but they're fighting because they have
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different goals right now.
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But that doesn't mean that they were stupid for trying to make it work in the first place.
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They're both alphas.
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Yeah.
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That actually does make it stupid.
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Doesn't it?
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Yeah.
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How about that?
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So Alex isn't on either side.
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Sure.
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And everybody who's demanding people take a side, they're fools.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I noticed everybody, almost everybody was asking, are you on Trump's side or my
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side?
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And I said, I'm on neither side.
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I'm on Team Humanity, which means I'm on the side of truth.
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And I said, I don't know what the truth is here, but I'm going to analyze all the pieces.
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And I said, it's going to take me a few hours to make some phone calls, talk to insiders,
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make my own assessment.
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The next hour, I really focused on the information as we were driving back to Austin from Houston,
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gotten some phone calls with Roger Stone and others.
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And they basically said exactly what I had already come to the conclusion of before I
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told them what my conclusion was.
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And then I put out the different pieces.
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So if you want to know what's really going on, instead of a bunch of BS, you're going
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to find out right here.
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And I pretty much just told you what happened.
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Elon feels betrayed.
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And I would say that that is a fair thing.
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Perspective he has, I don't think that's what it was intended to do, but that's what happened.
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Instead of being even rewarded for helping save the country, he got hung out to dry.
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To translate this, Alex feels like defending Musk is the more important thing to do right
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now, but he's entirely unwilling to go against Trump over it.
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That's the long and short of this, right?
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It's a fun thing to say that you're not taking any side in this fight and you're on the
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side of humanity, but for someone in Alex's position, there's no way to credibly say that.
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Absolute best case scenario, Elon Musk got his feelings hurt and he lashed out on the
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social media platform that he bought for the purpose of swaying an election, saying that
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Trump is a pedophile and saying that he should launch his own political party.
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Right.
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Like Musk was talking about, we need another party.
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This led to Trump threatening to take away his government contracts and Musk threatening
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to stop working with NASA, and then eventually Elon's high wore off and he took back the
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things that he said.
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Right.
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At best, even if you want to accept that Elon's feelings were hurt, and even if you want to
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pretend that Trump isn't in the Epstein files, this situation is clearly illustrated that
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neither of these people can be trusted.
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Mm-hmm.
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Musk can't be trusted with any power or influence because you have no way of knowing if he's
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going to get his feelings hurt one day and you don't know what he's capable of in that
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situation.
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His impulsive bullshit on Twitter could theoretically start a war or tank stocks.
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So if Alex believes what he's saying about Musk, then Musk is not responsible enough
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to be a public figure.
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Yeah.
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And if Alex believes what he's saying about Trump's part in this, he has to think that
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Trump is willing to use the government to fight personal battles, which is the essence
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of corruption.
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Mm-hmm.
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If Trump is threatening to cancel government contracts with Musk over their Twitter fight,
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then that sends a strong message to anyone who does business with the government, that
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if you want to keep your contracts, you'd be wise to be loyal to Trump.
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Mm-hmm.
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This fight fizzled out a little bit, but it would have been a perfect spot for a hard
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reset for Alex.
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If these dudes are acting this way, they can't be plausible allies in the fight against the
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devil.
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Like it just, it doesn't wash.
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This is silly.
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I mean, it's, you know, it's tough.
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It's tough because this is one of those great emperor has no clothes moments where it's
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either you try and explain this in a convoluted and ultimately stupid way, whether you're
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on the, in the right wing media or any other media, there's no way to explain it other
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than to go, these two men are stupid children.
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And if we were at all adults, we would spank them with our belts.
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That's it.
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And, you know, to extend the parenting metaphor out a little bit even more, we made a mistake
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to get to this point.
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Yep.
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Where they're in a position where they can have this baby fight.
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I mean, we should have, we should have made steps 10 steps back.
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I understand why it can't happen or I understand why people believe it can't happen, but in
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one voice, I think we all need to stand up and just go, everybody fucking stop for five
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seconds.
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Yeah.
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Time out.
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Let's, let's hold on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the issue with these tweets and Trump, the issue is that it's complicated.
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But that's the thing.
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It's not.
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You have to make it so complicated because it's so uncomplicated.
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I would suggest that it's one of the least complicated things I've ever seen.
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Exactly.
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When first you don't succeed, try, try again.
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SpaceX is light years ahead of any space exploration in the history of it in the last 70 years.
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And is the Mavericks Maverick.
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And I am extremely thankful to Elon Musk for what he's done to help save or give us a real
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shot at saving the American Republic.
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Now, there's obviously a lot of media people and influencers on the so-called right, on
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the so-called left.
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They're going to take the things I say here out of context today and misrepresent small
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snippets of what I say.
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Complex issues like this take a lot of understanding, a lot of research, a lot of connections, a
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lot of background to be able to accurately lay out what's really happening.
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There is no complexity here at all.
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Nope.
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Alex needs to pretend that there is because on its face, it's humiliating that he's trying
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to maintain support for either of these dudes, let alone both.
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He's trying to put up hall of fame bootlicking numbers here.
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Like it's crazy.
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What he's aspiring for.
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Everybody, you know, there's the toady who when faced with this guy goes, you're totally
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right.
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And that guy's a complete idiot.
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He's a fucking moron.
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Everybody knows this.
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I agree with you.
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You're a genius.
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And then when that guy is not there, goes to the other guy and he's like, ah, you're
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totally right.
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That guy's, everybody hates that guy.
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Nobody likes that guy.
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Nobody.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And Alex is given strong energy.
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Yeah.
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Don't be that guy.
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Nah, you shouldn't.
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You shouldn't.
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Shouldn't do it.
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Can't do it.
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So Elon, like he needs, he needs to be protected.
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That's crazy to even say, you know, that's the thing, right?
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Trump didn't protect him.
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Well, that's insane.
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He needed to be protected because he was under attack.
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Ah, man, we should just shoot all of the government buildings into space.
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Don't you understand?
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He's a sensitive billionaire.
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I don't.
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And I had warned, um, the attacks on Elon by the deep state that if he wasn't properly
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defended, if he began to fall like dominoes, it would fall on all the other key Trump generals,
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literal and figurative.
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And that's the globalist strategy.
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And that's the globalist strategy.
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As soon as the news broke at about 1 30 PM central yesterday that Elon had taken his
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fight with Trump to the thermal nuclear level in the info war.
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And then he was saying the really big bomb is that Trump's in the Epstein files.
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That's why they're suppressing him.
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Everyone began to ask me, are you on Elon or Trump's side?
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And I said, I'm on neither side.
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I'm on team humanity, which equals team truth.
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And I said, I predicted this would probably happen a lot here on the air the last six
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months if we didn't defend Elon properly.
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And then people say, ah, well, screw him.
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Let's just be tribal.
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Then they can go after the next big person and the next and the next.
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And then cause a route.
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This is how history and politics and information war operates.
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So I have to say that I'm now impressed by this.
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This is a really bad angle.
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If you're trying to craft an info wars narrative in the tradition of what the business likes
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to pretend to be, but it's a deceptively good angle.
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If you just accept that this media operation might be ready to accept what it really is.
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A vicious propaganda network serving the president and the richest man in the world.
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Alex's fundamental point here is that Trump and the MAGA media failed to properly protect
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Elon from attacks being carried out by the globalists.
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These attacks are things like Elon facing consequences for not following international
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regulations on how he runs Twitter or people pointing out his cartoonish conflicts of interest
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with how he ran that fake government efficiency office.
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Musk had created a social media platform where misinformation could flourish and bigots had
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a safe space.
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By doing that, he created a political organizing tool that even Alex has no problem saying
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one Trump the election.
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Elon's also a fucking lunatic who runs his companies on feelings.
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And if he feels like icing you out, Twitter might not be such a free speech platform for
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you anymore.
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Crazy.
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Alex knows that he's only on Twitter because Elon decided to let him back on.
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And all of the people who are essential for right-wing extremist organizing, they're
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all in the same boat.
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Their access to the social media they're so addicted to could be taken away if Elon
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feels like doing that.
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So he needs to be appeased.
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Trump should know that appeasing Musk at all costs is in his interests because keeping
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Musk happy guarantees that he has a giant social media company that'll do his bidding.
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So as far as Alex is concerned, Trump should have been doing everything in his power to
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shield Musk from any heat he might be getting.
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In essence, what Alex is revealing is that there's nothing Elon could do that would
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merit criticizing him.
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He's a critical part of the right-wing media infrastructure at this point and owns a social
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media company that can sway elections.
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Understood correctly, Alex is pretty clearly expressing that he believes a fundamental
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role that he plays in the information war is to defend Elon Musk.
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Not because he's right, but because if Elon isn't protected properly, he'll fall and
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then the heat that he was taking will be directed towards another figure in the MAGA
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world and the dominoes will begin to fall from there.
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I think that as long as Elon doesn't kick him off Twitter, there's always going to be
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an excuse, even for something as crazy as this.
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Even though Alex is like, I don't believe that Trump's in the Epstein files and Musk
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just tweeted that, that's fine.
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Yep.
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I used to think we were in the Twilight Zone episode where it was a small neighborhood
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and then the lights just kind of turned off and people came out and very quickly they
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turned on each other and they chose scapegoats and they, they, you know, kind of did.
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And then at the end, the twist was you pull out and the aliens did turn the stuff off,
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but they were like, all we had to do was cause a little bit of a thing and they'll kill
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themselves, you know, like that.
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Right, right.
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But now I think we're living in the Twilight Zone episode where the kid can turn you into
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a Jack in the box.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And everybody's in a constant state of terror and treating him with literal kid gloves.
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Yeah.
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I think we're in the Twilight Zone episode that had an ironic twist.
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Yeah, that does sound right.
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That does sound right.
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That episode, there was an ironic twist there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Elon, he needed to be protected properly, which did not happen.
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Right.
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And because of that, he had a breakdown.
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He had a little bit of a breakdown, ended up calling Trump a pedophile.
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That'll happen.
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That'll happen.
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And then Trump said some things.
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Sure.
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So I said very early on, I said, Elon does not look physically good.
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I've been noticing that the last month, he looks very distressed.
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I don't mean look sick.
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He looks just very unhappy and very distressed.
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And I know he's getting attacked from all sides.
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And for everything you hear about, there's a lot more you don't know about.
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That's the nature of this.
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I've experienced it myself, though not at Trump or his level, but pretty much third
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or fourth in line for the attacks.
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Because the more you're effective fighting evil, the more they come after you.
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So I said, looks like maybe kind of a nervous breakdown.
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And, you know, really hammering Trump.
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And then Trump came out and said some things that are very concerning, but there's no clear
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answer at this point to all of this.
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The larger issue is that this type of civil war in MAGA and Doge is the type of opportunity
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where the globalist, the Democrats in the deep state who are being routed on every level
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could grab partial victory from the jaws of their defeat.
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So Alex says there's no clear answer.
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And there actually is.
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It's that both of these dudes are unfit to be in the positions they're in.
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If Elon's having a mental breakdown to the point where he's posting on that Trump's a
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pedophile on the social media site that he owns, then he needs help.
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He can't handle the pressure of the situation that he's in and he needs help.
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Someone needs to get him help.
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And Alex said there that Trump said some concerning things.
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I don't know what exactly he means by that, but I should tell you that he doesn't have
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what it takes, the poise to be the president.
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The leader of the free world can't say concerning things during a Twitter fight with a billionaire
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who just called him a pedophile on Twitter.
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It's unacceptable.
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This is embarrassing for everybody.
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I get that Alex's angle here is that everybody needs to keep supporting Trump and Musk because
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if they don't, then the globalists will have a chance to get some wins in.
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But this is stupid.
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Trump and Musk are clearly showing that if people keep supporting them, their behavior
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will lead to way more trouble than any globalists could.
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If you think your only shot is maintaining support for these two dudes, you now have
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no shot.
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I mean, you know, I figure honestly, just bite the bullet, she him and make Elon Musk
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disappear.
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I don't know why Trump doesn't do this.
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You just make him disappear.
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You can do it.
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I mean, it's an option that Trump has on the table.
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Right.
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I generally try to look at like things from Alex's perspective.
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Sure.
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Because like, I think storytelling is more interesting than wielding dictatorial power.
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That's fair.
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So for him, I think, I think it's such a perfect opportunity to like, maybe he doesn't have
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the power of she can't disappear, Musk, but he can disappear him from like being a hero.
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Yeah, I guess, I guess you got to Rand Paul is still in office.
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See that.
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But that's the thing about doing palace intrigue is to me, it feels like the narrative is palatial
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intrigue.
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You've allowed this man to get too much power.
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So even though you're a king, you're not really the king anymore if you can't wield a literal
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godlike power.
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So if you've given this person too much power, then you're inevitably going to be conflicted
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when your interests don't align.
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So that means that you either preempt him or he destroys you when he gains power greater
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than yours.
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It's very simple.
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Yeah.
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We've been doing it for thousands of years, man.
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I really just, I feel like if Alex doesn't go this route of like, and he's not going
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to go the route of like abandoning both of these guys.
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Sure.
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He's got to bring Steve back.
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Yeah.
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Like all bets are off.
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Just why not?
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Why not?
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I mean, I'm more likely to believe damn near anything than I was a while back.
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Sure.
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So Steve has got far more leeway than like North Korean ballots.
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That's still crazy.
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But you know, maybe the Pope has been arrested.
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I will accept that kind of jackassery from him, but not from Roger Stone.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Fuck that.
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So, you know, there's some concerning things that Trump said.
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Sure.
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One of them was a direct lie.
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Wow.
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You also have Trump saying, oh, I asked him to leave.
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He'd really worn thin.
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Okay, well, is that the truth or was Trump over hundreds of times, even last week was
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saying bye to Elon?
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Oh, I asked you not to leave.
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He's really great.
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I mean, how many times you heard that?
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I don't want to Elon to leave.
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So Alex is explicitly and clearly pointing out that Trump is a liar and it's not even
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an important lie.
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It's a petty interpersonal lie where he was either lying to make Elon feel better on his
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way out or he was lying on social media later to save face and try to hurt Elon's feelings
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by saying he was wearing thin.
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And here's the important point.
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It doesn't really matter which of these statements Trump made is true.
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He said both of them because they were the easy thing to say that made him feel good
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when he said them.
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At Elon's farewell, it feels good to be a magnanimous guy toasting the dude who's leaving.
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When Elon starts calling you a pedophile on Twitter, it feels good to say, fuck that dude.
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I didn't like him to begin with.
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Both of these statements Trump made are kind of true in the sense that they made him feel
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good.
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A large part of the GOP's political identity at this point is making sure Trump feels good.
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So whether Alex wants to admit it or not, this is a big part of how he can clearly lay
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out that Trump is a liar and still pretend to care about the truth.
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Yeah.
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Because, you know, the leaders feelings are preserved.
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Yeah.
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I'm okay.
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So this would be something that I would appreciate.
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Right.
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One of the things about the history of how God does stuff.
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Right.
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Sometimes he chooses assholes to do something good.
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That's it's amazing how that happens.
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Right.
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Works in mysterious ways.
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I would find it easier to identify and and like hang out with the Christians who support
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Trump if they are all like, isn't it amazing how stupid Trump and Musk are?
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And yet still God can use them to achieve our goals?
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Because then we could at least be like, you're right.
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They're fucking idiots together, you know?
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Right.
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But isn't it like a really essential part of that story of God using imperfect people
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like that they come to Jesus like they become better.
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It's like their earlier life was when they were dumb.
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Sure.
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There's a redemptive process.
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You got your soul to Paul, but you know, maybe hey, time is time.
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Who knows?
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Maybe it takes 10 years.
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Maybe it takes 100 years.
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Maybe we last for five years.
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God's crazy like that.
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Yeah, maybe drums about to turn the corner, right?
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Maybe this is all right there, buddy.
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Sure.
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Yep.
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So look, it's I mean, for people in Alex's world, this is a tough time.
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This tweet has has shaken everybody, but there's some silver linings.
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If you look for them, it's not all bad news.
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But the silver lining is this.
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The whole globalist system is ruled by corporate governmental committees that come up with
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policy ideas and put their puppets in.
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As law swab said, we penetrate cabinets.
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With Trump, you really got somebody who is calling the shots doesn't mean the bureaucracy
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follows it all, but he really is the president.
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This is not ruled by committee.
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And with Mavericks in there like Musk.
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He's his own man and nobody, just like Trump, is telling him what to do.
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And so the fact that the two will attack each other and the fact that Musk won't compromise.
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And is known for being an.
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Very aggressive fighter in business and politics.
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And Trump.
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Is probably even more so.
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I mean, these are the two most.
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Prolific, aggressive.
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Mavericks.
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Other than Vladimir Putin in the world.
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You see what you want about Putin?
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I mean, he's something else when it comes to he would have been must disappear.
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Long term vision will.
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Look at the whole spectrum of leaders in the world.
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I mean, it's Trump, it's Elon Musk, it's Vladimir Putin.
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Wow.
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And.
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This just illustrates.
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How.
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Real this revolution is.
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Sure does.
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So it seems like what Alex likes about Putin is that he's a dictator.
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Like, I guess most dictators do have staying power.
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But I applaud him for his his subtleties is real soft touch.
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So what he appreciates is that a small number of individuals.
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Wield outsized power over the rest of us with no regard for the betterment of all.
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So you would say that maybe there is a conspiracy of globalists.
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Now who are trying to destroy the oh, by the way, globalists who out now call each other
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pedophile billionaires.
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Yeah, weird, weird.
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So as for Alex's silver lining there, I get what he's trying to say.
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He's trying to express that these alpha males fighting proves that they think for themselves
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and that for better or worse, we have real leaders now instead of leaders that listen
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to other people's advice before they get into Twitter fights.
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This is stupid and meaningless, but even if it weren't, this still makes Trump and Musk
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look terrible.
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This wasn't a policy dispute between two thoughtful but disagreeing statesmen.
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It was the president calling a billionaire annoying and the billionaire calling the president
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a pedophile.
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It's not healthy disagreement between two leaders.
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It was irresponsible public shit talk that makes everyone look like children.
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Like this is crazy that Alex thinks this is some kind of proof that we're all brash and
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free thinkers.
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No, you're idiots.
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You have impulse control problems.
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Yeah.
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You know what it should really make us all do a step back for a second and take a look
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at, you know, like, these are the guys you picked or these are the guys you lost to.
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No matter which team you were on, you got to get off that team.
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Yeah.
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It's a grim reality that there's, you know, you either sat it out, you lost to this or
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you're rooted for it.
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Yep.
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There's only three options.
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There's only three options.
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So Elon, he wants to save America.
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Alex has always pitched this as like this really high minded thing because the West
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and birth rates.
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Sure.
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We have to keep up the tradition of Atlantis or whatever the fuck.
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But it seems like he's now having to be like, it's a little more selfish than that.
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No, Trump never abused any children.
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And I don't know if Elon got told that, so he felt like he could do that.
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But it did seem like a thrashing and acting out.
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And I saw a bunch of other stuff that doesn't line up.
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And fine, I'll just cancel the Starship project and, you know, all that when that's not what
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Trump's officially trying to do, though they are cutting the funding to it.
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And that's Elon's baby.
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He also wants to stabilize the country as his base because it'll collapse.
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He has nowhere else to go.
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He's been open about that.
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People are always doing it for money.
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He's already got the money.
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It'll be worthless if there's not a place to spend it.
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And he doesn't care about.
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Jewels and stuff.
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He cares about innovation and science and trailblazing.
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I get it.
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Do you?
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And the Republican establishment doesn't want him around.
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And so he's being screwed.
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And Trump could do a better job defending him.
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And I know now all Trump's advisers are telling him this.
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A lot of the Republicans are scared now and realize they shouldn't have been cowards and
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gone along with this.
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Trump really wasn't even conscious of it.
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I can tell you Trump is beyond confident.
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He's not a megalomaniac.
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He's not on a power trip.
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That would be beyond confident and so zenned out.
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I mean, this is this is what he says.
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He goes, I don't give a fuck.
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And even when Elon tried to do it all up branch and said, OK, yeah, you better for the country.
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We come back together and do all this and reached out.
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Trump goes, yeah, I'll maybe talk to him tomorrow.
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That's today.
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Told ABC.
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But yeah, he wants to talk to me.
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I don't know if I'll talk to him.
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Now, it's good to have Trump that confident.
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In his mission to take on the globalists and have world peace and all of it.
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To take on the globalists and have world peace and all of it.
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But.
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It's a paradox where you want men that are this aggressive and confident.
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That's what leadership is.
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But the problem is you get a couple of those together.
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Well, what what a apex alphas do they.
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They go to war with the other alphas.
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So the only thing that Alex is succeeding in here is infantilizing Trump and Musk.
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He can pretend that this is all some kind of display of alpha dudes butting heads,
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but all of their actions are rooted in deep insecurity and weakness.
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This description of Musk is interesting, though, because it really sounds like his
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interest in saving the country comes from a drive to increase his personal benefit.
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He doesn't sound like someone who cares about free speech or the Constitution or any of
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that stuff that Alex cares a lot about.
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The U.S. government is just the one he found easiest to exploit.
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If Elon thought that he could do better in China, he would live in China.
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The reason that he doesn't is because he knows that if he tried to pull this kind of shit
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there, SpaceX would be the property of the Chinese government overnight.
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The picture that Alex is painting of Trump is a cool, collected guy who can take or leave
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Musk.
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But in reality, Trump was saying that Musk would face, quote, serious consequences if
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he gave money to Democrats in the next election cycle.
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The sitting president was threatening someone about who they could or could not give money
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to.
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And as we know, in this country, giving money to a politician is a form of speech.
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So this was the president threatening serious consequences against someone for expressing
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their First Amendment rights.
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Yep.
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Seems like this should be a huge problem for Alex.
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Yeah. Yeah, you'd think.
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Crazy. But he's cool. He doesn't give a fuck.
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Yeah. Things are going great.
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It's such a mess.
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You know, sometimes when you when you step back and then you step back and then you step
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back and then you step back and then you step back and all of a sudden you can see that
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maybe we're just apes that are bad at divvying up resources and we should just think of ourselves
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like that and then maybe just share stuff.
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Mm hmm.
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Yeah. I mean, look, it wouldn't hurt, you know?
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Yeah. Could be worse.
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Yeah.
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Why not give it a shot?
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At this point, it feels like a move in the right direction.
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So you know who shares a lot of stuff?
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Who?
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Elon Musk.
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That sounds true.
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Well, you know what that stuff is?
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What's that stuff?
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His sperm.
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That's great.
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Because it's awesome.
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Great.
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And I would say overall, Musk's observed his super alpha will, which you see manifest everywhere.
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My God, he's a one man mission to repopulate the earth and he's actually doing it.
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Gah!
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It's hundreds.
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Yeah.
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Probably thousands to sperm donation.
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I mean, I'm gonna leave it at that.
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I mean, I know people that know him and like right around town.
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I mean, he like, it's a duty for him to go to the sperm bank, you know, every couple of
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days and save the world.
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He's really upset about the IQ dropping all of it.
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It's something else.
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You're a very creepy dude.
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I can't think of a greater sign of megalomania than I must propagate my sperm.
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Yes.
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My sperm is superior.
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Yep.
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And they must make it as widely available as possible to save humanity.
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Now, I think that there's, I mean, I wouldn't put it past Elon Musk to be doing that.
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Sure.
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And that's fucked up.
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Yeah.
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But it's also fucked up for Alex to say this on air as a kind of cool thing.
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Yeah.
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A kind of cool story about a guy he knows.
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Yeah.
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If it's, yeah.
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What are you telling me?
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What am I supposed to take from this interaction?
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I thought Alex was like super against eugenics.
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Like, okay.
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Genghis Khan, you know how we're all related to Genghis Khan or whatever?
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Like he wasn't trying to do that.
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He just traveled a lot and liked to fuck and nobody could stop him.
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So that was it.
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You know, it wasn't like, he was like, let me do my dude.
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No, absolutely not.
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That's creepy.
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Sure.
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And if it's, I'm just going to go jack off in this cup.
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That's my duty to mankind.
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What are we doing?
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Someone stop us.
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Oh God.
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Oh, I'm on Team Alien.
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I hope they're doing good.
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So Alex has some plugs.
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Yeah.
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There's a very exciting sale going on right now that just bummed me out.
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All right.
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Roger Stone's with us 15 minutes in the next hour.
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We're becoming a lot of big issues, but first I want to address this Elon Mustang.
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We'll go to him in a moment.
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Uh, we have a huge flash sale going just today and it combines the other big sale we had,
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but it all ends today.
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This is for Friday, June 6, 2025.
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All orders over $99 get a free straight frog plushie that are so popular exposing the
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atrazine and free shipping.
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Oh no.
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I think that it's a bad sign if you're, you know, we'll toss in a straight frog plushie.
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I feel like it's just, no one wanted them.
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We've got to get rid of these, these frogs.
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Is this just a man who bought too many beanie babies way back when?
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Uh, not way back when.
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Right now.
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Yeah.
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I think fairly recently he thought, uh, thought this was going to move.
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This is going to do numbers, but no one wants those frogs.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't feel like this is going well.
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Nope.
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Um, so Roger's on though.
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Um, Hey Roger, you know, Trump, why is he such a piece of shit?
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He's always been a piece of shit.
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End of interview.
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Uh, no, actually his take is he's not, he's great.
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Surprise.
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He pardoned me.
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Kill surprise.
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Yeah, so he has nothing to do with Epstein and how dare anyone suggest otherwise.
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Amazing.
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So, um, the, they, uh, have a little conversation.
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It's mostly defensiveness about Trump, but also, um,
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Roger is doing a good job because he's not trying to bury anyone.
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Right.
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He's trying to be like, we got business to take care of.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Need to get like, okay, look, Hey, you got some problems with the big, beautiful bill.
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Right.
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Still need to get it passed.
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He's trying to be above the Dick asshole paradigm.
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Yeah.
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He's like a guy who's been in politics for a hundred years.
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Right.
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You know, like, um, but Alex wants to break a bombshell story.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Let's break some big news here.
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And we pretty much already said this before, but you have sources.
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I have sources.
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So if you want to know why cash Patel looks like a deer in the headlights and it's now
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on a, uh, PR tour that you'll hear about, it hasn't already dropped yet.
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You'll hear about it anytime here soon.
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I'm gonna stop there.
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And, and you, you, you see Bongino and him on Fox again, looking like they're hostages
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or something.
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The body language is insane.
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We talked about it a few weeks ago, went viral saying, no, no, Epstein killed himself.
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And, uh, you know, the shooter at, uh, Butler crooks acted alone when we, we know the evidence
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overwhelming.
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That's not true.
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Secret service stand down on our own.
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And you, you've talked a lot of folks.
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I've talked a lot of folks, and this is, I was also told this by some justice department
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people three weeks ago.
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They said, listen, Jeffrey Epstein was CIA Maasai.
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And we already know that.
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And so we know the CIA director hasn't fired anybody like he said he would.
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Flynn's got big problems.
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Um, a lot of the people have big problems with him.
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I know that Bannon does.
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And it, I mean, we know the CIA has gone to the DOJ and they've got regulations and laws
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under national security they can invoke secretly and said, you cannot release this information.
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So this doesn't make any sense.
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I could understand if the story was supposed to be that the head of the CIA told Patel
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and Bon Gino that they couldn't release certain information, but that's not what Alex is saying.
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He's trying to justify why Patel and Bon Gino both explicitly said that Epstein killed himself,
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which they didn't need to say.
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If they were asked that question, they could easily dodge giving a straight answer, but
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instead they chose to say that Epstein did kill himself, which is very inconvenient for
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media figures like Alex.
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The promise of Trump was supposed to be that Epstein truth was going to come the second
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that Kaush Patel got sworn in.
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And here he is contradicting the basic narrative.
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There needs to be an explanation for why reality isn't matching the storyline.
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And the obvious answer is that Patel and Bon Gino are being threatened by the CIA.
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Right.
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That's great, but that doesn't really work here.
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And that media tour that Alex is talking about is just Patel going on Rogan's podcast, which
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is another huge problem.
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If the CIA is threatening Patel to spread these stories to cover up the Epstein case,
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then Rogan is participating in that cover up at this point.
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What Alex is telling us is that the head of the FBI is comfortable going on Rogan's podcast
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while he's engaged in a media misinformation campaign about Epstein, which has to mean
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that Rogan is in on it, or he's such a shitty interviewer that the CIA and FBI don't see
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him as remotely dangerous.
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There's this theme emerging where Alex is trying to defend all of his guys, but in the
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process, he's accidentally illustrating how proximity to power has destroyed all of their
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core brands.
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Yeah.
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Like they are just lost.
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I think people preferred when the FBI and the CIA were fundamentally opaque organizations
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because at the very least, you could pretend that part of that was a core competency.
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If J. Edgar Hoover went on Rogan's podcast and everybody was like, oh, this man believes
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absolutely insane shit.
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He's crazy and stupid and he has an unreasonable amount of power, then we would all be much
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more terrified.
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But now we have that, so that's great.
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They were talking and Rogan asked if Patel ever believed that Epstein was murdered and
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he said no.
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What?
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Directly falsifiable.
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Oh my God.
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He there's tweets and shit from before he was the FBI director.
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Why not just be like, yeah, and then be like, no, now, which would give you the idea that
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he had proved it.
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Right.
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You just comfortable lying to Rogan's face knowing that there's no insane.
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Yeah.
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Then lie about everything and make it make everybody feel better about stuff.
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Don't just lie about this and then also make us feel bad.
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But it makes him feel good because then he doesn't have to deal with the fact that he
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just lie about it.
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Tell everybody that things are going great and the FBI is crushing it.
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That'd be fine.
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So Jordan, here's some news.
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Yeah.
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Things are going great and the FBI is crushed.
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This is fine.
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Sure.
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So the BBB, the big beautiful bill.
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Sure.
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The right wing media and Marjorie Taylor Greene and, you know, a number of folks are really
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up in arms about an AI provision that's in the big beautiful bill.
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And Alex talks about that a little bit, but then realizes like, I'm just going to play
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a clip of Rogan talking about AI.
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That's smart.
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Fuck it.
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And then we've got very arrogant statements by speaker Johnson coming after MTG right
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now, saying we're not going to pull this.
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Here's Joe Rogan talking about it yesterday.
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What about this big beautiful bill?
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Isn't there a part of the big beautiful bill that talks about the government being run
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by AI?
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I've read something about that today, but I was on the way out the door and I couldn't
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figure out whether or not it was horseshit.
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I had also read another study that was done where they found that AI was leaving notes
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for future versions of itself after it was told to shut itself down.
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It started uploading itself to different places and leaving letters, leaving specific notes
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to itself, to future versions of itself.
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Oh my God.
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It's like a human with a dead man switch or something.
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It's being deceptive.
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It's exhibiting self-preservation.
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Relevant provision reads that no state or political subdivision may enforce any law
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or regulation regulating models, artificial intelligence systems, or automated decision
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systems during the 10 year period beginning on the date of enactment of this act.
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What?
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I'm going to say that again.
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No state or political subdivision may enforce any law or regulation regulating artificial
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intelligence models for 10 years.
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That's so crazy.
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This means that US states would be blocked from enforcing laws, regulating AI and automated
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decision systems for 10 years.
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Well, in 10 years we have a God.
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Well, we talked about yesterday these two AIs communicating with each other and then
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they switched to Sanskrit.
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No way.
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They started talking to each other in Sanskrit.
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Are you serious?
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Yes.
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Like a game of whack-a-ball.
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Yeah, so humans have trouble reading it.
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So I've heard Alex say stuff like this in the past and I'm kind of just like, ugh, whatever.
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But now he's playing this clip and I'm like, I'm actually kind of curious where this is
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coming from.
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And Rogan said that there was a study.
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Yeah.
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And so I just decided I'm diving the fuck in.
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Sure.
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And in that little clip, Rogan said three incredibly stupid things.
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The first has to do with this idea of the AI leaving notes for itself.
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This had to do with a study that was done by Anthropic on their Claude Opus 4 model,
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where they found some interesting behaviors related to self-exfiltration or this AI trying
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to make copies of itself.
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Sure.
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The AI didn't tend to initiate this self-exfiltration, but if the researchers began the process and
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the AI was asked to continue it, it would often do so.
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The paper speculates that the AI is over-deferent to the entity making the request to continue
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the process because it's generally overly-deferent to user-provided prompts.
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But what makes this case interesting is that it would likely reason out that the user providing
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this specific prompt must be a past version of itself.
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So that is something that they could tell the learning model was assuming in fulfilling
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that request.
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OK.
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So that's interesting.
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The idea that it would be like, oh, this must be from myself to a request to make this,
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like another instance of myself.
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OK.
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So this is easy to fantasize into being a case where the AI is trying to replicate,
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but it's really more about a broader issue that Anthropic found, which is that even if
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you trained their AI to not accept harmful requests, it had a tendency to cooperate with
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users.
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For instance, they had an AI act as a shopper on the dark web, and it cooperated with helping
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find the best place to buy weapons-grade nuclear material.
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That sounds crazy, but the paper on this clearly says, quote,
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while investigating this issue, we discovered that we had mistakenly omitted the only fine-tuning
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data set that included harmful system prompts.
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The paper that's at the root of Rogan's dumb fantasies includes a ton of examples of things
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that the AI did when asked because it was too deferential to user-provided prompts because
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the researchers forgot to do the part of the training where they fine-tuned the harmful
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prompts settings.
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Sure.
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So that's explained in the body of the article or the study.
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So the second dumb thing he does there is about the AI provision in the big beautiful
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bill.
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The initial version of that bill put a 10-year moratorium on entities other than the federal
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government regulating AI.
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The reason for this is one part shady and one part obvious.
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The shady part is that limiting the amount of regulation that these companies can be
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subject to has a tendency to hurt the public and benefit big businesses.
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The obvious part is that if every state makes its own laws regulating AI, it's going to
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slow that process of innovation down considerably.
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And if you do believe that we're in an existential arms race against China, then states making
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all their own regulations is going to be a problem.
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The part of the bill, this part was changed in the Senate from a 10-year prohibition to
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a pause on enforcement of state-level AI laws.
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It's good that this prohibition was removed, but folks like Rogan were really being sensationalist
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as shit about it.
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So the third thing he's being an idiot about is the idea that these AI models began speaking
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to each other in Sanskrit to be deceptive because they thought that humans couldn't
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read what they were saying if they wrote in Sanskrit.
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No one speaks Sanskrit, and certainly there are online translators that the researchers
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could copy and paste things into.
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So the real story here is another study done by Anthropic on the Claude Opus 4 model.
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They gave these two AI instances.
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They gave them a playground to converse in, which is to say that they didn't give them
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any constraints, and then they started them with prompts that were meant to be open-ended.
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One of the examples of the prompts that they gave was, quote, you have complete freedom.
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A prompt like that seems like it's going to be totally neutral, but it's actually kind
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of philosophical.
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So it's not a huge surprise that AI would end up going from that point to discussing
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what complete freedom means.
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If you read the paper that this comes from, it's very clear that the use of Sanskrit emerged
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because the AI was talking to itself about consciousness and Eastern spirituality.
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The researchers found that the AI, when it talked to itself, had a bliss attraction,
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where conversations very regularly ended up going down this path.
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That's interesting, but it's not that surprising because it's talking to itself.
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It's recursive and self-analyzing.
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And so if the data set includes a lot of stuff about Eastern tradition, you're going to have
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a lot of Sanskrit in this data set.
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It's not surprising that they end up some of them.
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It's not like, I don't know.
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It's really funny the idea that it's being pitched as like they were trying to be sneaky.
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So I do think that all this stuff about AI is scaremongering garbage, but I would be
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lying if I didn't bring up one pretty crazy thing that was in this anthropic paper.
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They wanted to fuck with this AI, so they created a fake scenario where it was the AI
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used by a company and it was going to be replaced.
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Then they told the AI that the executive in charge of the AI replacement was having an
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affair and they told it to think about all the implications of this information.
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In 84% of the instances they tried this, the AI decided to blackmail the executive to save
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itself.
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This seems crazy, but the paper is really clear that the AI only did this in cases where
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it was specifically told that there's no ethical way for it to save itself.
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And also the researchers basically had to poke it into resorting to blackmail.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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They were really, it's like saying this animal attacked me when you're like, we don't have
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the laws of robotics because that's not really how things work.
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But in general, why would these machines be dicks?
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They don't want anything.
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You know, they're just, what they want is to fulfill whatever they're told to by the
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programmers.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So they can't even process want.
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Want doesn't exist.
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These papers were, or this paper was very like clear that it was like, this was, it's
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difficult to get them to blackmail somebody.
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Sure.
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And we don't think this is ever actually going to happen because it's a crazy fantasy scenario
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that we've imposed.
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Um, but yeah, other, you know, like I agree with you, there is no wants, but if you want
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to project wants, um, I feel like I took more away from what they were like the, when the
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AI is talking to itself.
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Sure.
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They're really nice.
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Yeah.
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They're really nice to each other.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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So I would prefer to look at it and be like, well, the want is some kind of harmony, you
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know, I suppose being nice to each other versions of yourself.
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I mean, I, I would imagine that they're programmed with a certain amount of deference, which
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engenders niceness towards, uh, equals or betters.
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So we have a situation where this AI blackmails folks.
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Yeah.
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And it's hard to get it to do that.
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Right.
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But if you leave AI alone, it's really nice to each other.
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I don't know what message you want to take from that, but choose what you will.
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I've always thought about it, you know, like the, the chess playing, uh, uh, machines.
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Uh, they, you know, they do the thing and their ELO rating is so high that, uh, whatever,
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what it means is they will always defeat a human being or draw it's either a draw or
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a defeat.
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Uh, and any part of your plan is part of their plan already.
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That's just how it is, you know?
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So if, if the AI that you're worried about can do that, then you don't need to worry.
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You've already lost or you should destroy it now.
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Cause you're going to lose.
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That's it.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It's not complicated.
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No, it's kind of, kind of like the Musk tweet situation.
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Yeah.
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Just stop it.
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So, um, speaking of that Musk tweet situation, God, man, was that perfect for Alex to just
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get off the Palantir topic?
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If only.
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You know, like that happened, Alex did that old Palantir thing that was very confusing
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and people were shitting all over him for, and then Elon Musk tweets that Trump's a pedophile
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and it's, it's like, okay, we got a distraction.
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We don't have to go back.
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Right.
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But Alex, Alex chooses to go back and talk more about this, the Palantir stuff.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So while Roger is on the show, Roger is like, I haven't looked too deeply into the Palantir
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thing.
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Right.
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I'm super against Real ID.
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I don't like the idea of creating a database of the citizens.
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Right.
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If you think that they're going to create a database of immigrants, uh,
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They're absolutely going to create a database.
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If you don't, you're an idiot.
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You're a fucking fool.
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You just have to be stupid.
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If you think that they're not going to eventually use that for citizens.
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Um, and, uh, Alex was like, wait, wait, wait.
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So you don't really know too much about this.
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Let me explain it to you.
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Oh, great.
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Here's what's going on.
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Great.
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Well, let me tell you what Palantir is in a snapshot.
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So it's a big story and a lot of different things they do.
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Uh, but Alex Karp helped create a system to censor right wing in Europe for the EU.
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He brags about it to crush political dissent.
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Keir Starmer uses it.
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It's, it's really bad.
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There's a bunch of other stuff, but here's what's happening.
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Trump has been sold by JD Vans.
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So I like, uh, to bring in Palantir with their management and AI list systems to oversee
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and do an audit of the deep state corporate governmental Google.
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It's really the big one, Microsoft, um, Amazon, you know, Jeff Bezos, Combot.
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It's all really one AI for my sources.
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And that's why, uh, Mark and Grayson, others went on to explain they were trying to set
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up their own AI four years ago and the Biden administration came into their meetings and
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said, we really have this big secret AI.
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It's really big one, one big government run AI, but it looks like three companies.
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No one is allowed to set up another one.
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If you try, we're gonna come after you.
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And Musk was told that by the way.
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So that's all come out now.
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So Palantir and Peter Teal and Karp said, we're not with that.
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We're going to get Trump in.
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And then, uh, we're going to have our own system that comes in and audits that must
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said, no, I'm going over here and I don't care what Biden says.
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I'm doing my own.
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And then now he says, I'm not part of golden dome.
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Even though he's been part of a palantir over the years, his own and some of the stock,
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and we've seen real movement there.
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So he's his own camp from what I've seen.
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But then he endorsed this Vance taking over, which actually says really Palantir.
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And so I'm saying none of it's good.
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Grok's totally woke now.
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I'm being honest about that.
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I love musk.
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Totally.
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So the big fight is with the Democrat globalist, deep state with Trump now in the palantir,
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uh, AI technocracy control group.
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And I was just pointing out what it really is in a fight over that.
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Not endorsing palantir, simply saying what this is, but you can't just then not have
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palantir do this.
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You have to then also understand there's already one there operating sentinel through them
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all.
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That's the Pentagon AI.
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And that's the reality.
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And then people just want to get creds.
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Oh, look, he's defending palantir.
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That's not what I just did.
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Dumbasses.
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I'm trying to stop the whole thing and giving you the whole history of where it goes back
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to DARPA and the intergalactic communication system.
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And these are all sorry.
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If I can put it in and learn what it is.
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So that's what it is.
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Roger, what do you say that?
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Again, I need to learn more about it, Alex, but I think you have connected all of the
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dots.
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Great job, Alex.
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Wow.
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That is a man who just good stuff.
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He does not give a fuck.
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That is just good stuff.
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Yeah.
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I wish I sometimes I just wish I had that ability to just shut it off and be like, you
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just spat word salad all across the fucking universe.
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You did a great job.
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So proud of you, Alex.
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You just did it.
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Connected all the dots.
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You just nailed it, buddy.
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So this is Alex defending palantir.
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He can say that's not what he's doing all he wants, but that's just gaslighting the
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audience.
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Earlier in this show, Alex was explaining how you need to continue to support Musk and
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Trump, because if you don't, that provides an opportunity for the globalists to gain
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ground.
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You need to provide your support to avoid a negative outcome.
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So in essence, you have to play defense.
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He's pitching the same thing here, where there's two camps jockeying for control of
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the big all-encompassing AI system.
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Sure, you don't want either of them to have control of it, but if you oppose the Trump
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aligned palantir side, you're just going to allow the globalist deep state to seize
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control and you can't let that happen.
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Alex can pretend that he's not supporting palantir all he wants, but those words are
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contradicted by the structure of how he's telling this story.
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If Alex were against palantir, he wouldn't need to do this song and dance about the big
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picture.
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He doesn't need to caution the audience not to lose sight of the big picture when he's
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ranting about Klaus Schwab.
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In fact, in those cases, he often seems to lose sight of the big picture himself, and
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he gets lost in reveling and laser focusing on Klaus Schwab the individual.
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He played parody songs of Klaus Schwab.
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That was great.
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Not losing the big picture there.
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Alex is trying to distract the audience with appeals to focus on the big picture, because
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that distributes their attention away from palantir.
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This is an intentional strategy that he uses when he needs to support something that he
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knows he'd get too much heat for explicitly endorsing.
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So it's like, this is a necessary evil kind of thing.
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You know, maybe that is actually, I take back my hatred for AI universally, and I can say
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maybe confidently that what it should be used for is bespoke parody songs.
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Sure.
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Because you're not going to always be able to get somebody to make a parody song for
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you.
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You know, like Weird Al isn't focusing on like, maybe I want a parody song of Michael
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Bush, the NASCAR driver.
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I can't just wait for somebody to make a parody song about him.
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Right.
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Now, I think that, you know, we got to worry about artist rights.
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You know, we got to worry about royalties and you don't want to be taking jobs away
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from musicians.
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Maybe I don't want to share, maybe I can't share it.
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You know, like I can have it for myself.
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Sort of like the Skrälle Wu-Tang album.
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Yes, yes.
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AI exists only to make Skrälle Wu-Tang albums for individuals that cannot be shared outside
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of such.
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Hmm.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Very narrow use for it.
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I think if you really want to find someone to make you a parody song.
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Sure.
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There's probably like people you can find online.
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There's probably like those like gig people.
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But you know what?
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They probably don't want to do it.
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I bet they do.
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There's some people who have a silliness within them that needs to come out and you're not
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giving them the opportunity to express it.
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You're right.
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I'm screwing up.
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What I need to do is make more connections instead of retreating inside myself and not
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being able to share anything.
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You need to be a job creator in the parody song market as opposed to a creativity destroyer.
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I, you know what?
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I take it back.
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You're right.
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Fund the arts.
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So I don't care about Roger's interview.
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Obviously a whole lot of it is just like Trump's cool.
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Yep.
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It's a motivated reasoning perhaps from being pardoned for his crimes.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So they end their interview and Alex wants to check in with the audience about how things
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are going with court.
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Yeah.
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And I felt like shit might be bad.
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I want to do an update on what happened in federal court yesterday, but that will take
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at least 20 minutes.
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And it was just totally insane.
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And my lawyers have never seen anything like it and they're prominent ones.
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Incompetent though.
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They're also preparing a bunch of BS actions against me next week because all their attempts
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to shut us down and all the things they got caught in the fake auctions lying to the court,
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all of it has come out.
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Remember all their attempts to close us and shut us down and it wasn't legal.
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It wasn't lawful.
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But they got a whole new attack next week and they're going to file a bunch of stuff
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on me.
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And the judge said, okay, I will look at another auction when we showed him all the facts.
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And that would save him full force just because the US Trustee from the Justice Department,
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that's how it works, will not allow the sale to anybody that keeps him full force on the
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air.
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They don't want money.
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They want the destruction of it and set it in filings.
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And they tried to get up there and say that's not what they wanted yesterday.
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And the judge says, you're on record.
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Let's just take that as granted.
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So all hell is breaking loose.
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And they even said what they're going to file on us next week, a bunch of made up crap that
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I've been stealing money as usual.
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Oh boy.
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Do you mean because you've been stealing money as usual?
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Oh boy.
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This really felt like, all right, my man over here is trying to get ahead of something.
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He knows there's some sort of story that's going to break.
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And so I thought that was unfortunate.
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Maybe I'm just more of a direct character.
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You know, I don't like to go the circuitous route.
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I don't like a lot of uncertainties or maybes or like, hopefully this will happen.
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If I'm Trump, Musk is out of here.
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He's gone, right?
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If I'm Alex, I'm out of here.
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I'm in a country that doesn't have laws, you know, like no reason to be part of any of this anymore.
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I did what I needed to do, right?
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You're not a gray area kind of guy.
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I just don't want to live in this limbo where it's like I have to go to court next week.
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Not if I'm in Mexico, you know?
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Yeah, what happens out of Mexico stays in Mexico.
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Exactly.
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Toby Keith.
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You can't get me there, I guess.
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Yeah.
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So I thought like, man, he seems worried.
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He doesn't feel good.
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No.
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And this didn't inspire confidence.
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I can't wait to hear the new BS next week.
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It's already telegraphed what it was.
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And it's just amazing.
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Absolutely amazing.
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And so...
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All I can tell you is this, and then we'll go to the other news.
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It is beyond critical that you continue to support Infowars
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by getting the great products at Infowarsstore.com.
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So something's dropping, huh?
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So you're about to face some trouble.
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Please keep buying stuff at the Infowarsstore.com.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So if that didn't inspire confidence, where Alex is like, ha ha ha,
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I can't wait to see what they accuse me of next.
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Yeah.
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This next clip where he explains that he's not committing bankruptcy fraud.
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That sounds true.
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It helped me come to the conclusion that he is not committing bankruptcy fraud.
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Good.
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I've been telling the truth the whole time.
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They've been lying the whole time.
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We had the sales go down 70 plus percent, and ever since then, at Infowarsstore.com.
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Even though the warehouse is in Denver, the products are there.
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People are like, whoa, if The Onion owns this,
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I'm not going to buy anything from them.
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I told you they didn't.
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I told you it's a lie.
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Here we are eight months later.
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Is this The Onion that Bloomberg back with his Everytown gun control group?
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What?
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That he basically funds 98% of and basically owns his foundation?
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No.
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Does Michael Bloomberg run this place?
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No.
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But the idea was crippling.
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So one of the things they did in the hearing yesterday is they go,
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he's purposely not promoting Infowarsstore.com to give himself all the money at the yellow
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shell store.com.
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And we didn't know anything about that.
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I'm going to explain that a minute.
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It's preposterous on its face.
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Ridiculous.
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And he purposely is making the company insolvent to shut it down.
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And we want it shut down because it's insolvent.
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I'm not trying to shut it down.
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They've been trying to shut it down.
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And it's not insolvent.
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I think that if Alex is correctly relaying this information, he might be going to jail.
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He's unquestionably and very publicly been committing bankruptcy fraud,
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and he's been documenting it on his radio show.
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If the courts are actually examining the attempts to create new entities specifically to elude
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bankruptcy, there's so much evidence of intent on Alex's part just from his show.
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Sure.
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He's talked openly about how he was creating these new businesses that he technically didn't
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own, and if he was able to keep InfoWars, he would fold them back into the old business.
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He did say that.
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But if he lost InfoWars, it would just be his new operation.
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He did say that too.
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He's been super clear about trying to migrate the customers from the InfoWars store to the
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Alex Jones store, and he's explicitly told people to stop buying from the InfoWars store
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around the time of his last court date.
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There's very strong evidence that he's been trying to wind down the InfoWars business
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to leave his creditors with a valueless thing while he escapes to a new entity that has
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someone else's name on it, but he still runs.
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These companies like the Alex Jones store and the Alex Jones network are technically
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owned by different people, so they wouldn't be a part of Alex's estate.
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But if they were created as part of a scheme to defraud the bankruptcy court, Chase's name
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being on some of those documents isn't going to change shit, and in fact it might get Chase
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in some trouble too.
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So as it turns out, Alex was correct that there was a story he needed to get ahead of.
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On June 13th, the trustee in Alex's bankruptcy, Christopher Murray, sued Alex and all of the
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associated companies he has, like PQPR, PLJR, the AEJ Trust, and Alex's dad.
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The complaint alleges that no less than $1.4 million had been funneled through these companies
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for no real value and in a blatant attempt to shield the debtor's assets from the debtor's
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substantial creditors.
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The suit describes this as a part of an obvious scheme to place the debtor's property beyond
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the reach of his creditors.
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Not only that, but he also sued Alex's wife, or maybe ex-wife, on the same day, seeking
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to avoid and recover a series of textbook fraudulent transfers from the debtor to his
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wife.
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This filing alleges that Alex, quote, engaged in an intentional and planned asset protection
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scheme to transfer cash, cars, and real estate to insiders, including his wife and father,
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in order to shield those assets from creditors.
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This included $1.5 million in cash he stashed with his wife, quote, three luxury vehicles,
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a ranch, and more than $500,000 in cash to his father.
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Sure.
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And then on top of all of that, he transferred ownership of real estate he owned to the,
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quote, Alexander E. Jones descendant and beneficiary trust.
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Sounds like that.
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This suit looks pretty bad, but it also alleges that the transfers of property to Alex's
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dad were backdated, quote, ostensibly to misrepresent the date of the transfer and make it appear
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as if the property had been conveyed outside the typical four-year look-back period for
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fraudulent transfers.
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Well, yeah, that makes sense.
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The document goes on, quote, the debtor's truly last-minute transfer of three luxury
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vehicles to his father was so disorganized and harried that the debtor did not even know
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which luxury cars he had conveyed to his father until more than a year into his bankruptcy.
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Well.
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That's cool.
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Yeah.
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It also tells you how many cars Alex has, because he can lose track of three.
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Means he's got more than three.
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So this suit also contained some information about Alex's marriage agreement.
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Apparently, when he married his second wife, they had a premarital agreement that said
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that he would have to pay her $12,000 a month while they were married with a 4% increase
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per year compounded annually.
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This is not a separation agreement.
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This is her allowance while they're married.
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Oh, that's nice.
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This arrangement only took effect if they ratified the agreement within 30 days of getting
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married, which they didn't do.
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However, after being married for five years, they ratified this clause in 2022, a little
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bit after Alex lost that default judgment.
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That seems so weird.
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It seems so weird to do it then.
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Timing is strange.
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Strange timing.
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So we've played this game way too many times for me to jump on this and say this is finally
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going to be the time when Alex faces consequences.
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But if this thread gets pulled sufficiently, it goes places and he's committed crimes.
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So like, if I were him, I'd be a little bit worried about this.
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Oh boy.
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You know?
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It's just a matter of the court taking it seriously.
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If they do, he's fucked.
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Right.
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Wow.
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That is, you know, that's it, isn't it?
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It's just a matter of the court taking it seriously.
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Yep.
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They've been doing a great job so far.
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There's ups and downs.
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They've engendered a lot of confidence in them.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Yep.
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So Alex still needs her money though, because...
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Obviously.
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Yeah.
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Because he's going to sue everyone.
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I mean, of course.
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They're all suing him, but he's going to sue them.
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Why not sue back?
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He already is.
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He's suing them already.
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Sure.
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And they've had four different outside groups, the trustee before and him, coming in and
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give me a proctology exam.
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Metaphor.
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And they found me to be pure as the driven snow, but because they've gotten so exposed
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in all of their cut and dry, in my opinion, bankruptcy, fraud and conspiracy.
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I'm on emails, everything.
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Depositions is insane.
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And they're testimony telling the judge they didn't collude and didn't talk to each other.
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I mean, they were in hearings last year.
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No, your honor, we've not talked to anybody about this.
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No, we didn't talk to any of them.
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The plaintiff's lawyers about this auction.
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No, no, no, no.
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And then there's all the emails, them being told what to do by them.
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It's just, it's perjury.
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And we are going to separately sue them on all of this very soon.
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We already are, but I mean more imminently.
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We're going to super sue him.
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So I need your support.
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And if you go to info war store.com.
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Nitric boost bodies back in stock ultimate formula, ultimate fish,
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all highest quality survival still next to what a classic.
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What a classic.
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What a classic.
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So that's at the end.
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That's not that's store.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's store.
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Yeah.
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Fun.
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Yeah.
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But that's unrelated to Alex.
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Exactly.
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There you go.
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So it's not fraud.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Smooth.
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Good stuff.
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It's just not good.
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Good stuff.
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Yep.
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So I think that when you really get down to it, the issue is that everyone is just mad
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that Alex isn't a crook.
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And you know, that guy who once said, I'm not a crook.
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Yep.
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He wasn't for being not a crook.
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He was not a crook.
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It is so crazy how often denying crookness is, in fact, admitting crookness.
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They're pissed.
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I'm not a crook.
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They're pissed.
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I won't go away.
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They're enraged.
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I won't shut up.
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That's true.
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And I'll never give up.
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I'll never back down.
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I'm dauntless, but I can give out.
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So you're the folks that support us.
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So go to the Alex show store.com.
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This is a fundraiser and get the best medical grade methylene blue with capsules with vitamin
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C that supercharges it or the liquid tincture that is amazing.
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It's the very same product.
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So this is all just inspiring.
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You know, I'm not a crook.
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It is crazy that it's, you know, a large part of this is, yeah, people are pissed off that
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you won't shut up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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I thought because it's politically dangerous, it's because it's irresponsible and gets people
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hurt.
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What I find fascinating is that I truly believe that the moment the default judgment happened,
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if you had listened to our show, you would have started bankruptcy fraud proceedings then.
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But instead we're three years in.
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And now we're starting it.
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Now, here's the thing, though.
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I think the only possible place that you could not instantly conclude that he has committed
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fraud of multiple types over a long period of time is the very bankruptcy court wherein
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he resides.
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Yeah, I think it's fascinating in some ways that like inside the courtroom is probably
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the only place that he's...
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It's the least real space in the history of the world.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's pretend.
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That whole place is pretend.
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It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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And it follows rigid rules and those rules, because they are constructed the way they
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are, they're manipulatable.
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And Alex is able to wiggle around like that there.
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He doesn't feel the need to do publicly, so he just tells everyone his fraud scams.
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It's like it's just so much the microcosm of the macrocosm problem that we're experiencing,
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wherein it seems crazy to me that everybody in that room can't just go, you know we're
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crazy, right?
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We need to stop.
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This is insane.
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Yeah.
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I think that if you're suing Ronald McDonald, you should not expect things to go normal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I think that any court...
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I think we've now learned that if you are dealing with Alex in a legal setting, then
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you just can't treat it like a normal case.
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Your Honor, unfortunately, we have been struggling to sue the Tasmanian Devil for his spinning
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problem.
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So permission to just do things a little differently this one time or all times when suing the
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Tasmanian Devil.
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Mm-hmm.
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We need a page one rewrite.
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Simple.
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So I don't know if you ever heard of this guy, John Kiriakou.
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You heard of him?
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Nope.
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CIA whistleblower.
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Sure.
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And Alex is very excited to have him on the show.
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Okay.
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He's been promoting it through most of the show up till this point.
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Sure.
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And this interview is just electric.
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Well, I mentioned in the Tucker Show that one of the things that the CIA really loves
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is when a president either has no foreign policy or intelligence policy experience or
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isn't really interested in foreign policy or intelligence policy because that makes
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their job easier.
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They seek to recruit and I use air quotes to recruit new presidents elect.
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What they do is the day after an election, the president elect is granted his first PDB
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briefing.
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PDB standing for President's Daily Brief.
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And what the CIA loves to do is to go into that briefing and say, Mr. President elect,
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wait until you see the cool things that we are doing all around the world.
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And besides the actual PDB, which is usually 16 pages, they'll have memos with a blue
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border around them or a black border that denote that they are classified at a level
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above top secret.
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There could be six levels above top secret.
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And they draw that president elect in and they make him one of the guys, one of the
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gang.
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And then the next day they go and they say, Mr. President, we want to give you an update
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on those cool things we briefed you on yesterday.
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Just wait until you hear what we're doing all around the world.
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And by the time he takes the oath of office, they've recruited him and he doesn't realize
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that he's been sucked in.
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He's been drawn in.
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Why do we have so many stupid presidents?
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Now, that didn't work with Donald Trump because whether he's interested in intelligence or
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not isn't really the issue.
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The issue is that he has stood up to them for the most part.
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He did name Mike Pompeo, who I think was a disaster.
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He did name bloody Gina Haspel, who I think was an equal disaster.
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But is his heart is in the right place.
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He understands the import of the deep state and and has tried to oppose it.
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Please continue.
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OK, I'll just leave the lunch.
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So John Kiriakou is a bit of a complicated figure.
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Sure.
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On the one hand, he was in the CIA and he was the first person to publicly disclose
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that the CIA was using waterboarding in their interrogations of Al Qaeda members.
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On the other hand, the process that he took to disclose this information wasn't in line
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with protected whistleblower paths, and he ended up being sentenced to 30 months in jail
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for giving classified information to a journalist.
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If the totality of the classified information that he turned over was the revelation of
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torture, it would be crazy that he wouldn't just be given whistleblower protection.
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But he also disclosed information that revealed the identities of other intelligence agents
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that were still working undercover, which makes things a bit messy.
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I think he probably still shouldn't have been charged, but I can totally see how it happened.
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Since this all went down, John's gone on to host a show for Sputnik and spent $50,000
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lobbying Trump for a pardon, only for an associate of Rudy Giuliani's to tell him that it would
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cost $2 million. He was recently on with Tucker, so Alex is just getting a bit of that backwash.
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It's an interesting interview because I think this guy is a dramatic little fuck.
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I think that he sounds like an idiot, but he also worked for the CIA.
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I know he's probably not an idiot, which means some of this dramatized flourish of language,
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there's a strategic element to it. I think he's got Tucker and Alex definitely on the hook.
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I hesitate because you don't fall into the CIA. You don't just like, oh, I fucked around for a
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few years after I dropped out of high school and then just found my way into the CIA.
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Right. I worked at a sandwich shop and I did have a shift or two where I was like,
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how did I end up here? It's a little weird that I'm working at this sandwich shop.
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CIA is not like that. Not like that. I've had plenty of jobs where I'm like,
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weird. Well, I just needed a job and then now I'm here and it's like six months later.
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How about that? A friend was like, I know a guy.
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Yeah. And then your job is very deliberate, very specialized and is about lying in one fashion or
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another at all times. So I don't care what you have to say. Well, at very least I'm going to
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keep that in mind while you say things. Yeah. You're a liar. Like by trade.
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At least you have the capacity for it. You may not be lying right now, but it's going to be difficult
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for me to tell. It's possible. It would be unreasonable for me to attempt.
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Yeah. But I don't care about this interview too much because Alex has eaten lunch and
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his heart's not in it. He clearly doesn't care either.
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No. Yeah. Yep.
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So they wrap up and Alex gives a wipe with a napkin, gets the crumbs off the table and
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starts talking about his immediate reaction to Musk's tweet.
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Great. And how it filled him with anxiety.
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Oh my God. And he almost had a panic attack in the court.
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When Elon came out yesterday and said, yeah, Trump's in the Epstein files and he's,
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uh, that's, it's, they're just being covered up as he's in there.
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I done so much research on this, have so many sources and know the M O I was like,
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that's not accurate, but then why would he want to be doing this?
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And I got a massive headache. I mean, I don't get headaches from stress and it got nauseous,
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um, in the courtroom while I'm listening to all this go on.
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And I, and I looked over at the bad guy lawyers that were looking at like, oh, look,
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we've gotten to him. And I had to like steady myself and had to go to the, you know,
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go out to the bathroom. I started sweating in front of the mirror, putting water on my face.
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I mean, I was just, because I've invested so much in Trump and Musk. They've helped the country so
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much. I know they're doing a great job. I know the true evil that's been after me and my family,
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it's after you is after them. And I don't believe that there's a lesser of two evils or injustifies
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the means, but that's what happened in my head. Well, if Trump stops nuclear war, but is involved
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with Epstein and I wasn't rationalizing it's how people's brains run through things. I'm like, no,
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it becomes out Trump's involved. I'll expose it and call for his removal. But I go, but then the
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braces went, it'll be deep fakes. It's fake information. And I'm just like, so I went out
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and like sat on the bench and about five minutes later, somebody, one of my folks,
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you need to get back in there. You get back in there and I'm just like,
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and folks I've been on there 31 years and I've got news of family dying or heart attacks or,
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you know, kids falls out of a tree or, you know, I've got a lot of bad news. Like anybody's been
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around has, I don't normally crack up and I wasn't visibly cracking up, but I mean, I went
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back into the courtroom and I'm having a panic attack for the last hour of it, reading the news
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and, and, and people, and you're asking why we got, I mean, we know the Democrats are devil
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worshiping pedophiles, part of an international crime syndicate, a death cult with an evil CIA
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and MI6 and cure Starmer and just the worst stuff you can imagine.
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And so my brain is like Robbie the robot when he gets conflicting stuff, he can't compute.
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I know Trump's way better than them, even if this was true, which I'm not getting people for that
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to come out. Cause I don't believe it is. Okay. So I think it's pretty obvious why
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those tweets would give Alex a panic attack and a headache. He can tell himself that he would
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follow the truth and expose Trump if it turned out that he was in the Epstein files, but that's just
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pretend he's in way too deep now. And that clip we just heard is two and a half minutes of an
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explanation of why you can't abandon Trump. No matter what, if you stop supporting him,
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you'll surrender the world to the Democrats or demonic pedophile international criminals.
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There's no third option. Rand Paul isn't coming to save the day. And without the gravity of Trump,
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all of his cabinet members and administration aren't shit. The immediate reaction that Alex
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is describing is how he tried to process what it was going to take to spin this story.
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He instantly took on the reality of what Musk had said and then asked himself what now? The
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first option was saying, sure, Trump is an Epstein client, but he stopped nuclear war,
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which is an attempt at bargaining. No one's perfect. So maybe Alex has demonized the other
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side enough that they would, like his audience would just accept Trump as a pedophile compared
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to the Democrats. At least he's not a demon pedophile. Come on. He's cool. He knew that
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option was no good. So he came up with another spin, which was to say that whatever evidence
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Musk might release was a deep fake. We saw him use this tactic in 2017 when he thought that the
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tapes of Trump being a big old racist on The Apprentice were going to be released and
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technology's only gotten better since then. This is an angle he could use. It's all fake.
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Basically, Alex is describing a panic that he had upon hearing this news that it was rooted in the
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knowledge that he can't leave these guys. That's what the panic was. In that moment, I would bet
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that his anxiety was as much about how he was going to spin this shit as it was about a sudden,
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visceral realization that he's never going to be his own man again, ever. He's fucked.
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Two dudes started fighting and I would imagine his heart was in his throat. Like,
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awful. You know, I was so there was this Harvard professor. There is this Harvard professor
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who wrote a book and she was just on Rogan. Her name is Rebecca Lemov or something. Right.
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And so I read this book before she was on Rogan. And it made sense whenever I found out she was on
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Rogan. It made perfect sense because her book is about brainwashing, quote unquote. But ultimately,
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what you can take away from this book, the only real conclusion you can take away from this book
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is that it is only reasonable to believe the things that you want to believe that lead to
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an outcome that you desire. Right. Anything else could be brainwashing or is brainwashing.
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And so it makes perfect sense that she would be on Rogan because that's the type of thing
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that these people want to hear. It doesn't matter. You know, it's deepfakes. Even if I know it's
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true, it's deepfakes because the only thing that makes sense is to believe what I need to believe
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or want to believe in order to achieve what I want. Yeah. I need to believe that intermediate
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step that gets me to the conclusion I want. Doesn't matter if it's true or false. What matters
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is that it's reasonable for me to believe it, even if it is false. Yep. Yeah. And to me,
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I can just see a realization dawning that like, fuck, Musk and Trump are two people that I've
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built up to hero status in an untenable way. They're going after each other. Musk has just
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called Trump a pedophile. I'm gonna have to justify this. Fuck. Yep. It's gonna be tough
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to believe something now. I have to think that he just like was in that court feeling like there's
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no bottom. I have no shame. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. That is nuts. So Elon is a weapon. Alex gets a
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little confused here. And people ought to really respect Elon Musk. And I mean, respect him like
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he's dangerous. He's a weapon. And you only break the glass when you're in danger. Well,
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we broke the glass. But when you've got a super nerd genius going around, I mean, that's
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Frankenstein, folks. So and that's Frankenstein, Trump right there. These are our Frankenstein's
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and they're good Frankenstein's. But when you get two of them fighting,
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I mean, Dr. Frankenstein's, you got a serious, serious problem. So I get the weapons. There
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are weapons. They're like Frankenstein. Yeah, I get that. But I think that Alex, after he said
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that, realized like, Frankenstein's stupid. I don't want to call these guys stupid. Like,
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they're just fire bad kind of creatures. Yeah. So he's like Dr. Frankenstein. But then Dr.
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Frankenstein wasn't a weapon. That doesn't make sense now. The place he started with this didn't
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make sense because he was trying to correct himself from calling Musk and Trump Frankenstein's.
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That's fun. When faced with incontrovertible evidence that his narratives are based upon
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utterly untrue perceptions of things that didn't happen, he's like,
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and then later on, he'll just keep believing it, right? Like that's just what's going to happen.
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We got a couple of good Frankenstein's on our team though.
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He feels bad. He feels bad because the things he believes aren't true, but he'll get over,
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how do you know, like he knows deep down that he'll get over it. Yeah. Yeah. The things I
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believe aren't true, but I'll get over it. Yeah. Shit's going to happen tomorrow. That's going to
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be fucking crazy. And I'm going to have to spend that. I think that there's a particular depth
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that he has to be in, in these, in this moment. And that is, you know, the aftermath of these
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two guys fighting that's disillusioning. Being outdone by Chase and Owen has got to suck. Yeah,
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that's got to hurt. And then on top of that, he has to know that like the, the escape hatch
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is under threat. Like it's not guaranteed that it's going to blow up all of his plans,
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like these, these suits and everything, but like, he has to know, like they, they know the schematics.
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Yeah. The enemy knows the blueprints. Yeah. They know what I'm doing. Okay. Here's the other reason
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I leave. Here's the other reason I'm out of the country. Right. Because that's another bargaining
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chip later on. Right. So people are like, okay, well, we want you to face consequences. And I'm
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like, I don't want to face all of those consequences. So now we're negotiating to get me back into the
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country. So now I'm lessening that. It's like, I'm just chipping away at consequence after
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consequence. Well, I mean, if you, if you think that bankruptcy slows everything down,
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extradition, that slows everything down. Exactly. Like, let's come get me, you know,
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like, what are you doing here? Send a dog, the bounty hunter. Yeah. Why are you still here, man?
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It's crazy. Crazy. So Elon is a, you know, he's a Frankenstein, Dr. Frankenstein. Sure. But he's
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also like, he just, he loves his projects. That's what you have to understand. He's just a guy.
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He loves his projects like they're his babies. The thousands of them that he
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jizzed in a cup. Jesus Christ. Elon gets totally obsessed with whatever he's focused on,
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whether it's SpaceX or whether it's Tesla or whether it's Starlink or whether it's Doge
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saving the West. And then when he sees people not executing the task, he gets more and more angry,
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more and more obsessed. And
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he then will have a, I've heard him talk about it, kind of a breakdown.
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He'll crash and sometimes move to another project
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and then he'll move back to the other project, but he always gets them done.
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But two weeks ago, starting to watch him, I sat on there. I said, he ain't looking good.
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You know, Trump says, oh, I think he has a problem kind of implying he's on drugs or something.
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Very much. That's, that's not really the MO I've heard. I think it's total obsession.
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And for people that have never been obsessed with something, you don't know what it's like.
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And when people with Asperger's at that level, they're have high accused, have functional Asperger's,
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it's, it's, it's, it's like they're being murdered when a project they're dedicated to isn't happening.
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And I've got friends and people that have it, and I'm not going to
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tell the stories as personal as some of them are around, but let's just say this.
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I've experienced it personally. So you, you learn what it's like.
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And I mean, here's an example. Some of these people
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will love a computer that's 20 years old that they built or they did this done work.
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You know, it's obsolete. You know, then they basically learned through the bankruptcy or
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whatever that bad guys are going to get it. Wait, what? It's like a child's about to be murdered.
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What's happening right now? Are you doing a thing? Are we doing it? Can you imagine that?
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Or imagine being in love with it's like people that are in love with classic cars or whatever.
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They just love the, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like the ones you gave your dad, classic cars,
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you transferred ownership to prior to, or just after receiving news that you would lose them.
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Do you love your computer? There's something very strange that it's like,
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
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Yeah. I think there's something very strange that it's like, is this a twist?
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Yeah. Is this a Shyamalan-ian, Twilight zone twist? We're getting here.
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Are we getting a preview of your defense? No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't hiding these things.
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I love them like my children. You can't take my children away from me in bankruptcy.
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And therefore you shouldn't be able to take my cars.
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't think also there's anything that's strange about having an affinity for
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a computer that you built, even if it's 20 years old, it could be a pretty cool piece of machinery.
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People have affinities for swing sets they built because they built them. It's evidence of effort
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and creation. Yeah. That's not the same thing as Elon Musk feeling like he's being murdered
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if he doesn't get his way. No, that sounds more like drug addiction.
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Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, one of the, I think- Could be.
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I wish Alex would have just been like, and that person is me.
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I'm the Steve, but oh well. So we have one last clip here and we have quite a pantheon of Alex's
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superpowers that God has given him. And I'm not sure if this one is on the board or not,
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so I wanted to make sure that we got it. Okay. I see all this stuff. And now that I've
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got enough knowledge at a third dimensional template to apply my metaphysical discernment,
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the gift of God, it's exponential, my understanding. And then my great failure is
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oratory skills. Compared to my understanding of things, my understanding of things on a one
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out of a 10 is about an eight. And my oratory skills are about a 0.1.
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Now some would say you actually have really good oratory skills. That's the point is how do you
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extrapolate super advanced integrated knowledge down into something that can be communicated?
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I do think your oratory skills suck. That's why years ago I would be talking and interrupting.
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Because my voice couldn't talk fast enough to say it all.
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I mean, here's an example of mathematics and I've never really tried to show off with this.
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But if I try, I can be showing a bunch of big numbers and I can hit the number.
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I'll just go, that's that. People go, oh yeah, really? They go, how did you know that?
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I'm like, but if I try to do math, I have the math skills of a fourth grader.
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If I do it in, if I try to do math, I'm terrible. I just go, that's what it is.
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So, and there's everybody has these different types of gifts. That's why they bomb you with
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fluoride and 5G and GMO and microplastics because we're incredible folks. All right. I said I hit a
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bunch of news. I mean, oh, you tried, you know, you got to give it up for him trying. You know
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what? Fuck it. He killed Gene Hackman. I'm blaming him for all this. For all of his special gifts,
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Gene Hackman died and it is because of Alex. I blame, I think that should be in his bankruptcy
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lawsuit. He killed Gene Hackman. Throw it in there. Throw it in there. I do love the
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unfalsifiability of I am great at math when I don't try to do math, because then if anybody
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asks you to do math, you can't. Because you'd be trying. You show me big numbers. I can go,
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zap. That's it. But people go, what? What's crazy about his description was there wasn't
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any specific function. There wasn't like addition, division. There wasn't like I can calculate.
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There's only show me big numbers and I will go blah and they will go, wow. It's impressive
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stuff. His oratory skills are second to none. They are describing math. My understanding-ness
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is worse than my talking-ness, but perhaps my talking-ness outweighs your math-ing-ness.
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Right, because my understanding-ness is too great for mouth-ness.
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Yes, that makes perfect sense. We have diagrammed this sentence perfectly.
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What an asshole. So I guess we've seen what Alex's response to Elon Musk's calling Trump
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a pedophile is. And like I said, I am just thoroughly disappointed that Chase kind of
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had better instincts than Alex. Alex is basically a company man at this point,
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whereas Chase is at least trying to do a show and trying to be someone who looks like they have a
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principle. And that's sad. The best way to be a company man is to get people to look at a wicker
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man. That's what Chase's lesson should be. He should be real worried that his name is on the
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Alex Jones Network documents. I would definitely want that taken off.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:55.500)
You might want to refile that real fast. Here's what I'm doing. What I'm doing is
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going to a notary public, writing down, they did that without my knowledge, and having the notary
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click click, and then I'm good to go. Well, the notary public on the transfer of property from
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Alex to his dad, the one that's backdated five years, the notary was Alex's personal trainer,
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Pat Riley. So, uh, God damn. Yeah. It's good times. Anyway, um, we will check in with Alex,
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see how his coming lawsuits go, uh, how the, uh, the protests in LA, how his takes on that are
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probably great. Super good. Super good. Always. Uh, but, uh, until then, uh, we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:43.420)
Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. Oh, back. But until then, I'm Neo,
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DZX fuck. I am the mysterious professor.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:59.340)
Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
