Transcript/1046: June 5, 2025 (The War Room)
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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge Fight.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the earth, thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a search engine, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back knowledge that I'm dad. I'm Jordan. We're double dudes like sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about
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Alex Joe. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan Jordan quick question for you, so which bright spot today, buddy
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Why don't you go first my bright spot is?
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Stereo lab has a new album out. It's pretty good, and do you know what this means?
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All right, mmm. This is another
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French thing that is a bright spot of mine
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This is what I'm saying so now. I've offered you
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I've got two words for you all right, and you can choose between them
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Renee France or
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France Assance a France Assance probably sounds I think France Assance sounds better France Assance has a nut has a little
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Tongue better yep, so I'm declaring this a France Assance, okay?
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I am loving French shit right now 2025 is the year of the France Assance may I recommend?
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panabour
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That's a little bread with butter
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Cafe Olay a little bit of coffee with milk
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How about that I will I will accept those things I will take those into my heart what about?
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Caro come Adam what a crook machine. I was gonna say what is what's a crook madam?
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It's crook mature with the egg on it. Oh yeah, I did not know that mm-hmm. What's a crook monsieur?
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It's like a sandwich. That's I think it's a like I
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Say I don't know everything that's on it sure, but I think it is French toast for bread
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Oh, man, it's got like ham. Yeah, and definitely some cheese very French some fromage some from ah
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There we go for mine. All right all right
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Yeah, I'll teach you some French if you want
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Sure, give me some give me something you want to know how to say in French uh?
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Let's see
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How about pants?
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Pantalone that it cannot be true le pantalone that can't be true savory
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Means that's true. All right all right, okay?
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How about hair hair yeah, oh?
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That's a great question
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There is a great question. Stomping me on hair. I don't know I don't know I know that hat is chapeau right
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But it can't be shaher it can't it just can't that's how it works um what if it's just hair do hair
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Yeah, it could be hair. It could be hair. It would be do something because it would be some hair okay
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Let me look this up here in
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French okay, chavo
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Chavo chapeau and chavo
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Alright, how about hair?
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Hair rabbit hair the rabbit yeah, that in French don't know that one either. Let's just look up French words, right?
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Marine Le Pan
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Okay, all right Marie the hair. Yeah, okay, all right. What's your bright spot?
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Teaching French. I think you're doing great at it. Oh well. We we just see got in the mailbag. I got a nice
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Silk
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Ish I don't know if it's actually silk, but it is a robe with dragons on it is a dragon robe
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Which takes me back to the old days back when I used to rock these robes yeah
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Constantly to be those were my my bong days you were a robin robin bong guy mm-hmm
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Yep, got in circles and just handled business not enough people to make a circle
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There would be right angles
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Triangles or straight lines
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Segments good to be a rectangle could be maybe maybe if you're lucky
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You're gonna end up in a pentagon. Yeah, but no no circles
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Did you have the name of the person who said that you sure do took the the letter? I sure do it's Dustin Arth
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Hey, Dustin. Thank you so much for this robe from the band stage 11. Oh my yeah
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Are you sure that's stage 11 at stage 2?
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Could be Roman numerals. I feel like those those are ones right. Yeah, those okay, so yeah, so either
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It's stage 11 or stage 1 1 uh-huh stage 11 is put just past stage 9 which is
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One at what Trump said that Biden had it stage 9. Oh, it's stage 9 cancer. Yeah, that's pretty funny
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So Jordan today, we have an episode to go over. We're gonna be talking about
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Later on on June 5th later on on June 5th. Yes
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Our last episode covered Alex's show where chase was filling in as
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the war between Musk and Trump heated up it accelerated it got to the point where
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Musk was calling Trump a pedophile sure and
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Now what happens on the war room anything right anything does Alex get out of court?
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We'll find out but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. That's a great idea
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So first this is Bushy becoming a wonk to inspire Mateo and mark to become wonks. Thank you so much
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You're now palsy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next lady. Gribbin Pippen of the Gribble Pibble
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Thank you so much. You're now palsy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next Jordan, please read the Star Wars
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Dr. Afro comics, I promise you will like them. Thank you so much. You're now palsy wonk. I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you very much. Thank you and from Lucretia Borgia to dr. T own. Thank you so much. You're now palsy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you
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And we got a technocrat in the mix. So thank you so much to congratulations to penny and teal on your wedding
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Happy honeymoon and have a very brenty
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Branti year. Thank you so much. You're now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent
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He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much
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Thank you very much. So
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We start the show off. Yeah, and
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actually, I
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Worried about how to chronologically put this because Alex records a special report
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About the unfolding situation with Musk and Trump right and Owen plays it later in his show, right?
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But it would have happened like at the beginning of Owen's show right so I have placed Alex's response
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at the beginning of the episode when it was
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Created as opposed to when it was debuted. Yes. Yes. All right. So Alex is outside of the court
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He has just gotten gotten done gotten word and he is out in front of a bus stop great and some heavy wind
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talking about how
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Maybe Musk maybe he knew something they are maybe he's wrong but also
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in just the last 30 minutes I learned as
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Now hundreds of millions soon billions have on X on Elon Musk official account
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that
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Must
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War that's obviously erupted with Trump has gone to a whole other level
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with Musk saying I
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Can tell you why they haven't released the Epstein files?
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Because President Trump is him
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now
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Unpacking the magnitude of that is is just incredible
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I made a few phone calls before I came on live or to tell you my take at some of the inside baseball information
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I know whose team are we on
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First off we know that Musk knows that the entire West is going to collapse of the u.s. Collapses that means the whole world
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He's very upset
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That these doge cuts they brought forward have not been brought for three. I'm said about the big beautiful bill
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Also, the big beautiful bill is a total AI liability
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protection system that the Democrats and Obama and the globalists wanted before and Musk has actually
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Wanted a lot of checks and balances on AI
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and
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There's a lot of that going on. I believe Musk has integrity. I
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Believe Musk has at least been told this
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But what does it mean that Trump supposedly in the Epstein files so I'm sure he was told that by some sources things are accurate
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How much saying Musk is wrong?
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We have to Cooley investigate this
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And look at this. I'm not saying that he's wrong about credible sources telling him this
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This is a weak opening gambit from Alex
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He's suggesting an explanation where everyone has good intentions
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But that Musk has got some bad Intel from a source that he thinks is credible
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The issue here is that that doesn't really address the problem
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Pretty much everyone knows that Trump would be in whatever files the intelligence agencies have about Epstein
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It's just not clear what level of information they'd have about him or how implicated he would be in anything
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But those dudes were good friends and they have a deep history with each other
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It's a little silly to think that he wouldn't be in some files
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Even if the files that exist don't show that he was a client of Epstein's in the child trafficking way
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The content of Musk's tweets is not that important except how charged these things he's saying are
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What matters is that he's saying them?
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It's a betrayal and a disrespect to the kayfabe that the right-wing media has agreed to uphold in order to prop up Trump in
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Essence Musk is saying that the king has no clothes and this is the real problem that Alex doesn't seem like he wants to deal with
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Musk saying that Trump was on the Epstein files is one thing but folks like Alex seemed to miss that there are other
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implications baked into these tweets
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In this tweet Musk is also saying that Trump has corrupted the intelligence agencies to the point where they can block these files getting released
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Because he's in them Musk isn't just accusing trunk of being in the files
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He's also saying that Trump is using the US government as a tool to advance his own personal interests
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Not the interests of the public who could do such a thing, right?
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You know, I don't want to I don't want to pretend I'm gonna faint over this but like it's ignored
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Yeah, Alex is ignoring this this element of it because it's almost too
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Challenging. I mean there's two naked men yelling at each other about how the other ones not wearing clothes
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I guess I guess we're all they're all trapped in a weird Stalin esque version of that meeting where there's a goat and he's like
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That's a deer except there. Everybody's like it could be fucking anything man choose one. You might die
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Great. Okay. Yeah, and I think I think that obviously
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You know, we can just say descriptively Alex is not in a good place
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Yeah, like he's not well situated to deal with this kind of a fallout
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But I think that he's doing a worse job than then he needs to yeah
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But he does try and defend Trump a little bit and we know they got three months ago
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Thousands thousands of files have been hidden by the Democrats at the New York FBI offices by the commies literally him and his daughter over
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And we know Pam Bonnie rated those offices cash hotel to get that
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There's a lot of damage control going on right now with cash for telling Dan Montino saying that Epstein killed himself and that
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Cash tolls about to do a huge media tour very very soon. I'll sleep with that. You'll see what I'm talking about tomorrow
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so there's a lot of
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Signs of impending damage control and they knew this was about to come out at least that muscles going this direction
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I
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Have investigated Trump massively
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No, the Jane Doe's that followed suit saying he raped them and they were 14 15 turned out to be fake Democrat operations in the last
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eight years, I know a lot of people in
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That area of Florida not just Roger Stone. That's been Trump's comment on 40 plus years 47 years
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Said that you know, he knows Trump will he's his wingman when he was during divorces
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Trump likes big powerful bombshell women good God look at his current amazing wife
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He's not into young women great time to bring it up much less underage girls, okay
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So this line of thinking seems to imply that Alex thinks that Musk's
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Allegations are true like and that the heads of the FBI and Attorney General are engaging in a scheme of damage
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Control about the fact that Trump was in the Epstein files and that Musk was going to eventually
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Reveal that right, right that seems to be part of what he's saying at the beginning there, right?
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Patel and bongino saying that Epstein killed himself was part of getting ahead of the story that Musk was going to come out with
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Yeah, that's some really fucked up possibility and it feels like if Alex thinks that's true
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He should be calling for all kinds of impeachments like across the board. These people gotta go. This is a cover-up. This is elaborate
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Or maybe not maybe Trump likes these cool hot women, you know, I mean
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In my mind right if you say to me like oh
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He was just having sex with trafficked women not trafficked
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Underage women I say we're too far past a point where you can make those distinctions and have it matter
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Bombshell but apparently for these people. Yeah, that seems important. Well, I mean they weren't underage
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So sure sure great
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I I think that Alex can't quite figure out what direction he wants to go because there's this weird
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Conspiracy shit at the beginning and then Trump's totally cool at the end. They don't really blend well together
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Also, Alex is saying that cash Patel is about to do a press tour, which is a reference to him being on Rogan
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This was before that episode came out. So Alex does have that information in advance before it's publicly announced
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Yeah, he was on Rogan the head of the FBI
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a
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Bunch of idiots. Yeah, it's this is fucking hilarious. I think that
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If you're Rogan or if you're someone in Rogan's position I think that
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You should be careful if you're having an interview with the former head of the FBI
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Mm-hmm, if you're having an interview with the current sitting head of the FBI
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I don't think there's a way you can really do that Rogan style interview in a way that isn't embarrassing. Mr
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Hoover I have two questions for you one as the head of an intelligence agency
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Controlled almost entirely by yourself with no oversight. How can I be sure you're telling me the truth and
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Follow-up question you want to do some drugs? Yeah. Yeah, cool. All right, and you're under arrest
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Yeah, it's embarrassing I think I think that
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This
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Countercultural idea that Alex and Rogan and them seem to think that they embody
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Really need to reassess that boy. I mean, I don't know
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I just I just don't know how you get more licking the boot of
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anybody really I
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Mean, I don't I can't I can't think of another way
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The head of the FBI is not going to sit down with a Rogan type podcast if there's a risk in
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that yeah, and
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There's never been a situation where the head of the FBI was hanging out with cool people and the cool people didn't get in
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Real trouble. Yeah, if the head of the FBI is agreeing to this interview with you
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You are the safest fucking place to do an interview your head up his asshole
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You are the Joe Rogan butt plug of the FBI yeah, it's tough. Yeah, so
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Alex is like hey, man, whatever whatever the truth is. That's what I'm gonna tell you about. All right
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I'm gonna go wherever the facts lead and I'm gonna report whatever the facts are
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Roger Stone just went exclusively on after I talked to him in the last two minutes of my show with Chase Geyser was filming in
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I've been down here in federal court today. They're trying to shut down him for his Democratic Party. I'll be on the road soon
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Next 30 minutes and I'll be doing live feeds there. I'll go home with Owen
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I would imagine Rogers coming on with Owen as well
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Owen shows about to start at it in forwards that comforts on a show and a real off show on saran on axe
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Again
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This this this this war with trumpet must be heating up the last few weeks
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must whenever he focuses on something totally is dedicated and
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He's obviously been very upset about a lot of things and I know he's learned a lot of things
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He's got access to a lot of things that I don't have access to
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show
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But but but regardless of what the truth is here. This is the equivalent
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In the information sphere of a full-on nuclear war Alex you're missing your bus
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Roger and Alex both do they don't come on the war room. I think they're trying to figure this shit out. Yeah background
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Yeah
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But I've been thinking about this idea of the information war and how it tracks on to the ideas in real war
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And I think that this is a good analogy comparing this to nuclear war in essence
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Musk and Trump hold pieces of information about each other that if widely publicized would destroy their reputations with the base
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The media space that they've cultivated is a disgusting echo chamber where none of the audience will believe
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Accusations coming from non cult aligned sources. So as long as these pieces of information aren't being validated and discussed by the cult media
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They aren't a problem in this case
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It's widely known that Trump and Epstein were best friends and that Musk lives or dies by taxpayer money through government subsidies and contracts
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At any point these guys had the ability to publicize these facts which would force the cult media to take them seriously
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Thereby breaking the shared reality. They normally operate in these two men are at a nuclear standoff in the information war
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It's pretty much mutually assured destruction if one of them goes after the other because they not only have the nukes which is this information
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But they also have the codes to use them
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Which is the relevance and credibility with in the cult media for these things to be taken seriously
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And not just be like a dumb democratic attack or whatever. Sure. So I do actually think it is an apt
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analogy that these these are nuclear powers that are
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they have
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Decided to go after each other as opposed to staying in this uneasy mutually assured destruction truce. Yeah
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There's a there's a schism that's for sure. Mm-hmm. It's not coming back. No and and I
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Think I think that you everyone can tell that in this media space
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Yeah, like whether or not they want to get hysterical about it
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Everyone can tell like ma'am shit
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someone hit the button and
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Well, we're gonna have to adjust okay, so I here's what I'm thinking. All right now there's two popes
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If you're just a regular ass Catholic just trying to get through your day surfing just being a surf on some rich ass dude's land
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right and
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Somebody's coming at you like hey, what do you think about the two Pope situation? What do you say?
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Right. What do you what do you know like this Pope's good this Pope's bad
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Maybe because there's two of them. They're both bad is kind of the point is if you have to you've already fucked up
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Mm-hmm, right, right. So like shouldn't people just be going like hey, listen, one of them will live through this
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Let's wait and to see which one yeah, and and there's a large part of me that kind of feels that way
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Yeah, that is like well
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Nothing is really gonna stop their egos. You know, there's no one's gonna save these people from themselves. Nope
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So, let's see what happens
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Yeah, I hope I hope that the least amount of people get hurt in this battle of popes
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Sure, you know like I hope that it doesn't have
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You know as much ripple down damage to the people as it could have
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But yeah, there's nothing you can do these guys are just gonna they're gonna rub their antlers on each other and poke
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Let me let me throw this out at you
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What if we get rid of all known forms of government and replace it with whatever it is that
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Immortals use in Highlander. So like head chopping off
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Yeah, absolutely
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Like these two guys one of them has to have their head chopped off and then they gains the other one strength, obviously
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But then we've also got no holy ground fighting
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We've also got all of these different rules that could be better explored
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By us if we allow trumping on us to fight each other with swords. Mm-hmm
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Mm-hmm. I think that Elon is the kind of guy who would probably say that he studied the blade then let's go
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Thank you for bringing that up Elon. I have got a sword right here. Let's do this. So Musk and Trump. They're good guys
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Sure, that's that's really it just sucks. They're coming at each other. They're just good guys
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Musk is the reason overall that Trump went over the top and his buying of X
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Musk has devastated the globalist system and their narratives and transgenerism and the depopulation operation
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So overall you don't do real damage the globalist and be a bad guy. It's very paradoxical because Trump's doing real damage as well
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But then are they blackmailing him or somebody else because suddenly they bring in this AI dictatorship
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It's not just liability protection from the states and citizens for ten years. It's it's it's an AI takeover plan
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And so there's just a big battle over who's gonna control this is really one big
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AI just for those that don't know at least the West system is
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And that's the big secret. I don't want you to know it all operates off the same
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Interface with billions of humans and it was programmed for the beginning
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When it was set up that as these things progress this ghost machine
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Globalist but a god bless you brother
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That it basically can't be turned off the way it was set up
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So
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Unless we just go back to Stone Age. I mean, this is this is such an incredible moment
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This is the quickening things are still get more insane from here
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and so
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pray for peace pray for justice and pray that we don't have a nuclear war and
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probably not an economic collapse because this this news just up the chances of that massively and that's why I've been so concerned and
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In trying to work with Trump who's been working to really?
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stop
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This when you come to the end of a cycle like this
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Every 89 years or so
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and now this is a mega turning a mega cycle the fourth turning and
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The singularity all this approaching and all we want to believe in Trump. We want to believe in musk Max blank
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Why is this unfolds?
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but
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They better start releasing that stuff right now. We better get statements out of trauma
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We need to see more from us and I'll continue to track this as it unfolds
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But please pray for peace and awakening and good
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God's Spirit in the world and just know this is very very dangerous time for the left
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It's gonna cheerlead this and all this stuff. You have no idea if Trump fails how bad stuff's gonna be
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But you know God wants maybe get ready totally judges, but just remember
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That this is what so many people ask for let me I'm just trying to be steadfast tell the truth and just be as accurate
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I can mission not accomplished. I like that. Mm-hmm
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I've always liked that is like as a last resort for any kind of why do you support this horrible thing?
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Yeah, maybe it's time for God to judge us all maybe we're all dead tomorrow. How about that?
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Yeah, I won't worry too much about the horrible things. I'm doing right now. Hey left laugh while you can
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Yeah, I goes out of power if he fails with his leadership
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Then we're probably going to kill you all and pretend that it's God's judgment. Yep. All right. Whoops. That's fun
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Mm-hmm, I guess maybe someone's being blackmailed that probably is a much more serious
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Thing than Alex is treating it as yeah seems to be just sort of tossing it around as like a oh that could explain some
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Storylines. Yeah
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This is bullshit. I was a there's this book out now
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about
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Open AI and chat GPT and all the the founding and then like it has the the inside scoop of when Altman was
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Fired or whatever and all that stuff and it was talking about I didn't finish it because as it was talking about the creation
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Of open AI and all this stuff is attributing all of these things to Musk and Altman that were like, oh
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They're lofty goals for an open source thing. That was all for the good of humanity and it was like no
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They were lying. That was con shit
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So until you start with these con men were conning people out of money to make this thing
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Yeah, then shut up, you know, yeah, it's difficult to get to the next step past that
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Yeah, if you don't agree with that foundation of and it's unfortunate because I think that
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over the course of history, there's a similarity in the appearance of
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Visionaries and con people sure like there's a unfortunate overlap between people who see what's possible and people who are lying to you
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Yeah about what's possible in order to fuck with you. Yep
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And I think that if you treat with a prior like the latter
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You know or vice versa you get into trouble. Yeah, you learn how to fake honesty. You got it made
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Yeah
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Yep
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And so this um this thing with Alex to what he's saying is like there's this there's the internet is a big AI system
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That's meant to control everything
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There is just one thing and I've created it and it's the point where you can't turn it off without going back to the Stone Age
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Right, so I would suggest that if Alex sincerely believes that
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Then he needs to go back to his magazine and he needs to go back to like hard media
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Yeah, he we need to have an agrarian type revolution or something getting off digital shit
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Absolutely. We need to be back at the VHS tapes. We need to be back at
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and the fact that he doesn't have that as like a primary driving force of
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His show makes me think he doesn't believe that yeah because if we have
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The internet and it's an intractable system that can't be turned off and if it stays turned on it's going to control everybody
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Yeah, then the only thing you could do is try to disentangle you can't turn it off
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You can't blow it up or whatever without destroying the world right now
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Sure, but that doesn't mean that will be the case in ten years. Sure if we take actions to disentangle now
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Maybe we'll get to a point where we can turn it off without it taking us to the Stone Age
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Right, and I don't feel like that is part of his messaging. It can't be
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No, that can't be his mess. His messaging has to be we're going back to the Stone Age, baby
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We're going back to the Stone Age unless you let us control the ring, right?
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Right, but I mean not even that like obviously for him
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politically, but in like the in the ideal form of Alex where Alex the the
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Iconoclastic thing that we all imagined from the past was it was faced with the either
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It it controls everything or we go back to the Stone Age
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He's the one who is supposed to have the courage to say then we go back to the Stone Age
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Yes, God's be damned. Yes, that's a the fake version of him is that yeah, the real version of him is
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Guys we want white Christian dudes
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To have all of this power and if we don't then we will bring you back to the stone exactly
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That's that's essentially the truth versus illusion. Yeah. Yeah, so Owen speaking losers starts the show Wow
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Oh and still around yeah doing the war still going
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It is Thursday June 5th 20 25
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This is the info Wars war room the fastest three hours on the internet gonna be moving at light speed
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today
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In what is an absolutely epic day I?
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Would say maybe
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one of the biggest most important days in American political history
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That we've seen pick up a pace jackass, yeah, he's supposed to be at light speed
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This is the fastest show on the internet. Come on. It's very slow 30 seconds get out. Hmm
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So the world is never going to be the same sure this is the most important day in
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And and I get why it feels that way for them and it probably is on some level for them
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We got stacks of geopolitical news. We got stacks of other political developments happening in DC and around the country
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but
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the debate on the big beautiful bill and now the showdown between President Trump and Elon Musk is
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Obviously taking all the air out of the room and all the attention of everything else
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and
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There are lines
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being drawn today
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That some will cross and they'll never be any going back
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Things things that will happen in the next 24 to 48 hours
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Will bring in
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permanent change
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to American politics Republican politics
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MAGA politics and how the Trump administration is viewed from here on out and
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I was even talking to some other friends in the media and
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investigative journalists about some other stories and some other things they were working on they were just
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Asking my advice like hey, should I do this which my angle be here?
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This is earlier this week and I said no, I wouldn't do that
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I said I wouldn't take that angle and then I talked to him again today and I said everything has changed now it now
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Green light. Yep. Now take the angle now now to the story. It's all it's a whole different world today
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I think that Owens a keen enough observer to recognize that calmer heads don't prevail in his information space
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And in fact, they may not exist
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Quick explosive reactions are incentivized by everyone chasing Twitter clout
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So this fight between Musk and Trump is gonna lead a lot of people to do things
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They can't undo and that's not even considering that Trump and Musk are both impulsive ego driven children
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Who could do things they can't undo
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Leaving that aside. It's fascinating how bluntly Owen is speaking here
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I'm not sure he realizes or not, but he's saying that he advised someone else not to follow some investigative story
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But now after this Twitter fight, he says the rules have changed
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What were the rules before that have now changed?
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Was it widely understood like as an editorial position that you weren't supposed to report on things that make Elon look bad?
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Was it pretending not to know about Trump's closeness with Epstein?
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He doesn't specify what it is
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But there was a line of sincere inquiry that he knew was supposed to be discouraged before June 5th
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But now they're in a smoke him if you got him situation. That's literally what he's expressing a lot of the time
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I think that the hosts at info Wars don't fully realize what they're saying when they try to get dramatic
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And I think this is a perfect example of that whether or not this conversation happened that Owens describing
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What he's describing is
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Spin its cover-up. Yeah, it's
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Institutionalized lying if I'm a billionaire
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Here's what I do. All right, cuz I'm not always a billionaire
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Now these guys they were born rich so they don't have any concept of the real world whatsoever to begin with
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But since I'm not a billionaire and then I become a billionaire
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the first thing I do is I hire five or six people and
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Their only job is to kidnap me and beat the shit out of me once I start going rogue
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You know what I'm saying? So like bullworth situation. Absolutely. Just like I have paid you in advance. No conversation
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No, like here's my reason. Nope. None of that if I start going out up out of pocket
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You kidnapped me beat the shit out of me. I do a video a week later
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I did a retreat and then I moved back on with my life
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You know you mean by out of pocket like this this Musk Trump shit. Both of you are insane
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You can steal so much more money. This grift can go on forever
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Everybody's happy really in a weird way with you guys fucking them over. So just put your fucking head
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In a good spot. I don't then move on
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I don't know if I fully agree with you, but where I will find agreement with you is
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That the only the biggest threats they pose that exist for them are themselves
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They are
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Manifesting the thing that is one of the only things that is going to disrupt their money train
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And if if someone could kidnap them, that's what I'm saying and stop them from hurting themselves
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That's what that's what you have to do
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You have to outsmart how insane you're gonna go because you can't have a billion dollars without going insane
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So you have to be smart enough to outsmart how insane you're going to be now. I I would suggest yeah
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These kidnappers yeah should take you somewhere. Mm-hmm. Maybe a nice little private screening room, you know like
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Cushion chairs nice that's nicer than I imagined
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But I you're nicer to me than I am to myself in this maybe popcorn even that's hot dog
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All right show some Bond movies. Okay, and then ask are these villains?
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Are these this aspirational right and then hit you if you say yes
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Tell you okay are trained to understand that these are not aspirational plan slightly more comfortable
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Clockwork orange ink on the situation. Okay, you don't have to keep the eyeballs open
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No, no, but you do have to get a hit every night. You get a snack. Yeah one refill on the coke. That's nice
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Yeah, one refill. Hey, listen, if you need more than one refill, honestly, you're gonna brush you're gonna rot your teeth
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I don't unless it's a long movie, you know, maybe then you're gonna pee too much
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You're gonna miss some other movie one refills enough for anybody fair enough. So Owen
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We heard chase on the in the immediate of these tweets coming out blame Mike Johnson
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Right and Owen I think is going down a pretty similar line. Okay before I get into all
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the Musk
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Statements and the Trump statements and everything else in between
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To get us to where we're at today. Let me kind of just build a framework here
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Today
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I think was
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Probably the worst day for President Trump
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Maybe in any time he's been president and
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Personally it is my opinion that
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That
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Anybody that can't be honest about this is either compromised by access
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or
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Is just bias and can't be honest
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Because to deny Trump's mistake that he's made this week
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Whether you agree with what Elon Musk is doing or not the mistake Trump made this week
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Was he rode with Mike Johnson and
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John thin he rode with the swamp. It's riding with the swamp that asshole Mike Johnson riding dirty with Mike Johnson
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Hmm, so Owen is continuing on the tracks that chase started to lay down
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But you might notice from this clip how immediately Owens criticism is just a little bit deeper
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Chase's instinctual reaction was to say this is all Mike Johnson's fault
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And then he panicked about Johnson stealing his wife and it wasn't really much more than just in being reactive
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Maybe it's a function of having a little more time to think it over but Owens take is just a little better
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All of this is Mike Johnson's fault, but on a more important level. This is Trump's fault for siding with Mike Johnson and the swamp
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Chase's angle was good in the moment, but it also treated Trump like an idiot child who had no agency
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Oh and his take corrects that and accepts the reality that Trump has a choice
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Trump made a choice and it's the one that infowars should be against you can still like Trump
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But if you pretend that his choices weren't the drivers that got everyone into the position where the events of June 5th can happen
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Then you're a liar who's covering for Trump now to be clear
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Owen is absolutely been a liar covering for Trump on a near constant basis
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But the way he's coming at this narrative makes it look like more of an adult than chase
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It's probably not sincere
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But he sounds like someone who's having to draw a hard line which creates the appearance of principle and I don't know. Maybe it's
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Maybe it's a function of a little bit more experience. Yeah, cuz Owen Owen's been doing this a little bit longer
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You went to jail. Yeah. Yeah, he's got the he's got the cred
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That is that is an interesting
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way to view it because like what you should what he should do is kind of go a little bit further and be like
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We didn't elect Trump to actually be a president like we've had before right?
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Like what are you doing doing bills and shit that is go crazy
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That is a lot of I mean, he wouldn't say go crazy. Right is a lot of what this
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This sentiment that Owen is expressing is yeah, we're doing business as you do it. Well, you're getting a big beautiful
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What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, he's like he's talking about how like
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Do you have to make all these concessions and all this shit that's swamp politics. Yeah, and you know and there is more
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Credibility within this space to that position
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Yeah, and I think the difference between chase and Owen largely is that like
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Chases got a pretty decent one step and then a couple
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You know just to follow that line of thinking one or two steps further and you're like man you this falls apart
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Yeah, I think Owen's got a good three or four steps here before it falls into like real serious trouble
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Yeah, and that does make a difference
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Yeah, I mean I get it I get it though like
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Here's what you we we elected you to Caesar. We elected you to be a dictator
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So fucking arrest 60 70 Democratic congressman put some Republicans in there and then shut the fuck up about a beautiful bill
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Just say you want to do something and then make them write the shit that makes it happen
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Yeah, during during chases time on the mic
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He played a clip of Steve Bannon and his advice was go full Abraham Lincoln
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And if that doesn't work go full Andrew Jackson. Yeah, absolutely. That's what but yes, that's what they
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For yeah, that's your job. Yeah
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Yeah
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So the issue and I think that this is such a better articulation of the problem that they should have
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Is the you sided with the fucking enemy? Yep, you sided with the globalists
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Now if you want to forgive Trump the only bigger mistake you could argue that Trump has made in his first administration
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Was trusting Anthony Fauci and
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Riding with the swamp on kovat. That was his biggest again saving several million lives of all time
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inexplicably a golden moment political scar black eye
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blemish was riding with Fauci and and all of that garbage during kovat and
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It was in that moment he chose the swamp over the American people now we can forgive him for that
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We can make excuses for that whatever
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That's just the truth
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Well now Trump has made the same mistake for the second time and he's rode with the swamp
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Really specifically for this you could say he chose Mike Johnson over Elon Musk, which is just a terrible personnel decision
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Or
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You could say and whether the Trump administration realizes this or not. I don't know
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but you could say Trump rode with the swamp instead of the American people and
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That's what's happened. This road with thing is clearly something that he's pretty he's he's really enjoying that
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yeah, and I would love a
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Trump and swamp thing
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photoshopped onto the cover of
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BB King and Eric Clapton. Oh, yeah riding with the king. I like that. Yeah, right and with the small that's good
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Yeah, I like that Swamp Thing. I mean, let me let me say this
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Which I appreciate from their point of view why this doesn't
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Obvious this doesn't become an obvious thing that they should have planned for but if I'm kind of an idiot
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Right and I'm in Washington DC and I've got all of these very clever
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very charismatic
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very
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experienced at manipulating the system very entrenched within a certain circumference of power all of these people
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tons of experience manipulating say idiots like me, right and
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Then I've got Elon Musk on the other hand who's a piece of shit
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It's a real asshole and he's gonna call me an idiot whenever I'm being an idiot
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I'm gonna choose the guys who are nice to me. I'm gonna do it 100% of the time
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Hmm like that's it's very simple sure take it take the tyranny that has a nice face. Yeah
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Trump is gonna choose them every time because they're not dicks to him. They're like, oh you look so pretty today
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That's all you need to do. Mm-hmm
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So Owen talks about the BBB beautiful bill
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And how Marjorie Taylor Greene?
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MTG. Mm-hmm a lot of initials
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She has come out and said hey y'all
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Didn't read it
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And I didn't read it. No, this was my bad
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And
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Owen applauds her for her honesty good now, here's what happened in the house
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It turns out speaker Johnson yet again
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broke the 72-hour rule
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put an 1,100 page bill on
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Republicans desks
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for them to vote for
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Without even 24 hours to look it over or read it
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and I give Marjorie Taylor Greene
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tons of credit as
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she did some media rounds today and
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Was responding to people on X critical of her and she said you know what? I
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Apologize I made a mistake. I
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Voted for this bill before I could read the whole thing
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But I wanted to support President Trump
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We had a couple hours to read 1,100 pages. I
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Trusted the president that it was gonna be a great bill
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So I voted for it and she apologized and she said she got it wrong and now other members of the house are coming out
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And they're saying the same thing. Listen, we applaud this because this is
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Loyalty, you know behind the apology is I'm sorry. I'm too loyal
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I didn't read the bill which is something that is supposed to be a problem
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But the only reason I did that is because I trusted and was loyal of dear leader, right? So this is good
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this is actually like
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she's
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Bending the knee while making this apology
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Which is great
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Yeah, I mean, I guess I guess the you could be I would suggest you be a little bit more honest
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And you just go like it is by no by no means. Is it my job to read this trash?
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Yeah, I am here to talk shit. I would like to say that I never read these bills
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I've never read a single fucking bill. And would I this was just one time where it's backfired. Yeah, what are you guys talking?
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Do you see do I look like the bill reading type? I've never read a regular restaurant bill. Mm-hmm
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I just yell I just yell just complain and
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This is not good that's it that's what I do
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Yeah
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so
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There's a there's a real there's a real danger here. Mm-hmm. And that is that as Trump is riding with a swamp
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Yeah, he could go down with the swamp. He could yeah
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This is this is gonna be a real serious possibility. He rode with speaker Johnson
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he rode with the swamp and
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now he's facing a situation where I
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Mean folks, I'm just gonna tell it like it is unless he gets a life jacket
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Unless somebody throws him some life support. He's gonna go down with Johnson. I
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Don't know why he made that decision
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Doesn't make any sense to me
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But that's where he's at and again
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This is coming from a man who has probably suffered more than anyone else
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Very few people could say they've suffered as much as I have for supporting President Trump and I have no regrets for that none. I
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Have no regrets for going to prison for supporting Donald Trump
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No regret that's not for the center for supporting Donald Trump the lawsuits the attacks all of it. No regrets
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Yeah, none wouldn't change a thing. Mm-hmm
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But I'm not loyal to President Trump
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I'm loyal to the truth and I'm loyal to America and the American people
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And
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That's where lines are being drawn
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today
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now before I get into the weeds of this I
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Guess it's worth mentioning
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The conspiracy theories that are out there today. Some people think Musk is doing this on behalf of China. Ooh
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the markets are crashing today, but I
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Don't I don't believe Musk is working for any foreign country foreign entity here. I think I think Musk is just a legitimate dealer
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Maybe he has his own agenda
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But I think Musk is doing what what he believes. I think Musk is independently doing what he believes and he's been consistent on
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This whole thing for years. He's been consistent on all of this for years
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Now there's also the conspiracy theory
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That this whole thing is a ruse
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to blow up the corrupt Republican Party and the frauds within it and
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to put the onus on Trump to
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Exonerate himself in the Epstein list by forcing his hand to release the entire thing
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I'm not so sure. I believe that either maybe that's more believable than the China angle
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Why is it a good use of your time to rate?
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Potential conspiracy theories about this story. I mean I because I guess BuzzFeed's busy right now
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I guess I mean like he's indicated that neither of these things he really believes
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Yeah, I guess I guess when your audience like it sounds pretty fun when the audience is built on connecting all these
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Unconnected dots. I need to be sure to like sometimes be like hey this dot connection is getting popular
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I want to say no, it's not China. Yeah, it Musk is not working for China
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Let's get ahead of this thing, but I do appreciate being involved. I like to be here
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I like to be taking feedback from people China not a problem
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I like to the Owen saying like I'm loyal to the truth
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You know that kind of like it makes me think of so Logan Paul is now a professional wrestler
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Yes, and everyone, you know, he they hate him because he's a piece of shit
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He's a piece of shit and he's very easy to hate. Yeah
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And he's cocky and full of himself a double piece of shit. Yeah
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His theme song is called humble and
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It's about how he's so humble. Mm-hmm. I stay humble
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Was it about how it did he make it did he write his own theme song someone wrote it for him?
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I'm sure but it's about him. Yeah, it's not Kendrick's humble. No, it's meant to antagonize right?
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I've got all this success. I stay humble right right like a very large man nicknaming himself tiny
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Yes, exactly. And that's how I feel about Owen saying that he's
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Loyal to the truth. It feels like Logan Paul's humble into yeah. Yeah, there is there is a
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certain amount of like, you know for all the conversations we can have about the
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Impossibility of a God making a mountain so big even he couldn't move it
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That this man can say that without lightning bolts proves everything I need to know
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Yeah, and here comes some more like where lightning bolts should be. Hmm. Now there's a lot of back and forth
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Between Trump and Musk
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Where and I think this is the worst part of it
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because you can have political debate and debate consistency or
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Reasoning and logic behind passing bills or changing your stance on things
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But this has gone beyond that now
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This has gone beyond that now and I think we've reached a point
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It's undeniable
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Where what the Republicans and the Trump administration are doing now, which
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Again, they don't they don't do this. This is this is way
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This is not the normal politicking when it comes to the Trump administration
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Which which I think shows you how bad it actually is
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We are now engaging in
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Deception and lying and political propaganda
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In order to try to get support for this thing and it's ugly
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It's ugly
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So if you want to just debate the merits of the bill
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Do you why it needs to be passed? Okay, but now they're sending
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political propaganda at us
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Now they're lying to us
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I've never seen anything like it. Can you imagine lightning bolt, right?
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There should be there should be I don't I don't even think we need to
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There should we I'm not even talking about a god of gods
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I'm talking about a trickster God somewhere should be like, oh well
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This guy needs to be fucked with like clearly I need to throw
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Fucking balloons at him and he appears out of nowhere. Like this is what needs to happen. Yeah, this is crazy
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It's it's like anyone in their media space trying to pretend to be offended by
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Calling Trump a pedophile. Yeah, like you guys do this with everybody you call everybody
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You can't believe you would stoop so low lightning the discourse is
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Toxic, right it is
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Toxic in this place. I can't even be here. I can't be here. I can be around people like you
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I can't believe that they're resorting to lies
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They're lying and using propaganda host of info info Wars. Yeah, so
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Musk one of the issues that Owen is pretty
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Unfortunately aware of because he's not supposed to be is that Musk already kind of controls the government
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Now, I don't know what's gonna happen because a lot of this stuff that the Trump administration wants to do
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Musk is already
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fully in control of and this is before
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Trump even won the second term
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When it comes to SpaceX and Starlink and a lot of these other things that
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Military infrastructure and
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NASA infrastructure is relying on Musk and his companies
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So now they're saying they're gonna cancel his contracts where okay, then guess what? You don't even have a big beautiful bill anymore
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You don't have the Golden Dome
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You don't have you don't have a lot of Space Force technology military technology
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So now what do you even have?
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This is this has been this is Fauci 2.0
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This is Trump, this is Trump's second biggest mistake he's made as president first was riding with the swamp and Fauci and
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now it's riding with the swamp and this bill and
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then the White House engaging in deception and political propaganda in an effort to get us to support it and
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All I'm saying is
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You don't you don't need
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To do that to get us to support it. All you gotta do is what we voted for
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You're the one saying that the auto pen was treason you're the one saying that the open border was treason
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You're the one saying they stole an election. You're the one saying they spied on you and committed treason. So why are there no arrests?
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If you know that and if we know that and you're the president and you've been pointed an entire
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administration and been in power for over a hundred days
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Then why are there no arrests and if the story is
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There really is no president
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We're really not in control of anything. We're not gonna deliver on any of this stuff then it's over. Yeah
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Get there. What are we doing here? Get there?
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We're not playing this game a second go-around so if you're Owen and you say this stuff out loud
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It's time to recognize that you don't care about the United States the Constitution democracy or liberty
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You've been part of a media apparatus
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That's consolidated public power in the hands of an unaccountable billionaire who can't suffer any
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Consequences from our government because his technology is too important to space and military infrastructure
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You've created a king and not only that you've created two of them who are now at odds with each other
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the only sensible position for anyone who cares about the rights of the individual is
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that you got to be pushing for a complete breakup and
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Probably nationalization of Musk's companies as well as a number of other effective monopolies that are consolidating wealth and power in
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Unsustainable ways. It's not just Musk
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But boy is he clearly a crisis if Musk's companies are critical to the public's well-being and interests
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Then they can't be allowed to be controlled by his private interest
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The second thing that Owen should realize as he's saying this stuff is that maybe all that shit like the auto pen
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Wasn't as serious as Trump pretended it was
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Maybe calling all of those things treason was just a ploy to whip
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Propaganda media outlets like in force into a hysteria and this frustration that Owen is feeling
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It's just the come down where he has to wrestle with how he was used on these things
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And you can say that they're not gonna do this a second time
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But yes, they are and they're gonna do it a third time and a fourth and a fifth
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There's no end to how many times they'll do this because it's the only reason they exist
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Yeah, infant Wars exists to do it a second time. Yep and pretend to be mad about it and ba ba ba ba ba
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So
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Nothing's gonna nothing's gonna change, you know, that's why that's why
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You can learn this is where I think
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Trump needs to learn from the East. Mmm. All right now say what you want
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she
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horrible dictator consolidated power in the hands of himself for
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maybe
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nefarious purposes and any number of things but
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Billionaire gets out of hand billionaire disappears. That's some shit that you can take to the bank with you. All right
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Well, you know without saying you should learn from this. I
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Think that it's it's a teachable moment where you can't have both. No, like you can't have both kings
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Nope Trump is trying to consolidate the power for himself
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Mm-hmm, and you can't have another weirdo unaccountable billionaire in the mix
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It's just a luxury to be able to make a billionaire disappear
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Mm-hmm, and that's something that they they haven't really got the grasp on yet. You know, I think they will I doubt it
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Well, you know have too much power at the billionaires here or the like the she there this one this one
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This situation might resolve before it comes to a disappearing stage
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Steve Bannon is straight-up calling for him to be deported. Hell, yeah, so that'd be great
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Yeah, I would love that so much
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So the issue that Owen has is that a lot of the criticism about the BBB?
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Yeah, big beautiful bill. Sure. A lot of that is valid on Musk's part
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Sure, and him using Trump's old words against him and all this. It's good
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It's for the betterment of cutting Medicare and you know public spending sure and all this stuff
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But it wasn't cool that he did the Epstein thing, right? That's too far and then
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Trump why?
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Because it's getting messy and personal and Infowars doesn't like that my god. Yeah. No, no fine fine
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but the issue then is that Trump threw a
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Gasoline on the fire. Oh, he could have put this fire out
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Instead gasoline if anybody could have
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Put this fire out. It could have been Trump
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But instead he decided to throw gas on it
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Says Elon was wearing thin I asked him to leave
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I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted that he knew for months ago
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I was going to do and he just went crazy
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Then
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He says
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The easiest way to save money on our budget
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Billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it
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Well, this is going to be interesting if this if this battle between Trump and Musk gets to that level
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Now now this gets really interesting
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Because obviously Musk's companies are receiving all kinds of government contracts. I mean Musk's companies probably have so much
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Involvement in US government contracts. I don't even know if you can cancel them all I
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Don't even know if it's feasible
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But okay Trump does it then what Owens not supposed to know stuff like this
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They aren't supposed to be cool with the idea that Elon's companies have such extensive and valuable
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Government contracts that the president can't cancel them without causing massive damage to the country
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Eon is essentially in the too-big-to-fail kind of situation and we've already seen what Infowars thinks about that kind of shit
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This fight between Trump and Musk is forcing their hand making people like Owen admit all kinds of stuff that they pretend not to know
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Because they're required to fight against these things if they're aware of them
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You can't be a host on a network that's above partisan politics and is all about rooting out corruption and
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Support a billionaire owning multiple companies that have so many important government contracts that he can't be reined in it all by our elected officials
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It just doesn't work oil and water baby. Hey mixin
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Nope
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This fight is shining a light on how stupid the game they play is and how easy it is to get away with it
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When everyone's keeping up the kayfabe
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But when someone exposes the business shit falls apart rapidly and Owen has to talk about how
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Uncancellable Musk's government contracts are and chase has to reveal that he didn't know about those Epstein tapes
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Like it it's just like they're scrambling because some wrestler has broken character
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It's just so it's so weird. It's so weird to me because to me this seems very obvious
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You just go like okay. Well Musk has committed a crime somewhere
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So let's just take all this shit like yeah, okay. We don't have to cancel any contracts you committed a crime
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So now we take all your shit. You can do that
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Like if you're the president you can do that like legally too. So like just do that. Yeah, there would be a process
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Somewhere to seize for national security and national interests space X
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You can't scale up to billionaire like Musk without having committed a raft of crimes somewhere, right?
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And I think one of the clues
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Now I'm no detective sure, I'm no Poirot. Yeah, I'm no Benoit Blanc, uh-huh
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But I did seem to notice that Trump or Musk was very
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Unsubtly talking before the election but how fucked he was if Trump lost that's interesting
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Yeah, seems like a good place to start to me. That's a clue
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Yeah about some possible illegal shit that he does that he doesn't want
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Covered. Yep. Yep. Yep
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Yeah, I think that he should probably have in the national interest if
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Owen is
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Even willing to say like you can't get rid of these contracts. It's too big a part of the government
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Yeah, then now it's part of the government. No, I know it's public not I mean, yeah
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if but in if you're Owen if you're these people and
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You hear like the government depends on this so much that it cannot be taken then you go
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Well, then we have to take it. Mm-hmm, right? Like we can't allow it to not be ours. It is almost a
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direct indictment of their philosophy
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Yeah about you know libertarian privatization and and and all that shit
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It is almost exactly the reason you can't allow things to get to this point. It is simply
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Impossible for us not to say this must be ours now. Yep. Yep. So Owen
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He's complaining about
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Some foreigner who's trying to say that they should impeach Trump. Hmm. I'm like wait, is he talking about Elon Musk?
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Yeah, that seems like Elon Musk. He's not Oh, so now you're gonna have even more conspiracy theories flying around
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dealing with this situation
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and
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The solution is obvious
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The solution is obvious and and look
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I'm
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Not gonna sit here and get lectured by a foreigner
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About
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The president of the United States, okay. Would you like to know more about your civic song gets plenty of criticism?
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I have no problem with him, whatever
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but
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Some some Malaysian says Trump needs be impeached and Musk says oh, yeah, let's impeach him a Malaysian said it
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I'm gonna pass on that. Thanks very much. Oh, well, I'll go ahead and pass on that Elon
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Impeaching Trump is not the answer
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Offering the common-sense solution is the answer and the whole process could start immediately
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The whole process could start right now. He's mad at you. He and Miles Chong. Oh
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Twitter I gotcha. I gotcha
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I was like, is that a stereotype that the Malay people are always always impeached left and right very interested in
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Malay can't help themselves. Yeah, what see I thought that was a boy. You're really sticking it to the foreigner part
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Wow, am I gonna listen to a Malaysian tell me about impeachment, right?
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That seems that seems an acro-nistic racism. That doesn't even make sense to me
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It's also like this very strange thing that I can't imagine a lot of people who are on the other side
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From Owen give a single shit with Ian miles John or Ian John. Yeah, who cares?
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No, I I think that he is somebody who is only relevant in your space
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Yep, you deal with him. Stop whining and and
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Just being from Malaysia is I think generally speaking in my mind
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Neutral mm-hmm. I don't think many people have strong Malay feelings one way or the other probably not right
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So the left right? Yeah, they've fallen right into the trap that shit. Yep. Damn
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The left this is just this is just too good
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the
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Propaganda agents the digital influencers of the left and the Democrat Party
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Are now all posting that they're now all demanding
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That the Epstein files get released because they now believe Trump is on the list
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brilliant
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Now again, if that's not if that's not an intentional thing with Musk and Trump playing off each other like a WWE match
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Then that's just one of the greatest things in a result of this fallout that you can get
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Now the left is interested in the Epstein files because Musk suggests Trump is on it beautiful
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chef's kiss so this is the problem with
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You know people like Owen and Alex and and all of them in this space
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Turning this into a partisan kind of issue. Yeah, because it pretends that people on the left weren't already
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in favor of releasing the Epstein staff
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Pretending that they only want that
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Because the possibility of getting a dunk on Trump
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Yeah, or something is really silly and it's it comes off very stupid. Yep
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so the the idea the idea that they have like complete ownership of this space is
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It's a tragic thing in some ways
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but it is it's a reflection of the the ways that they've turned
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You know crimes around trafficking crimes around
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These these sorts of issues into a circus
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Yeah
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and a lot of people don't want to deal with these issues seriously or they don't want to be seen as
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feeding into a QAnon hysteria and that makes that makes the appearance for someone like Owen
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Easier to pass off that like oh they only care when it's able to be weaponized against Trump sure when the reality is they
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Owen only cares when it could be weaponized for his purposes. Yeah, he's not a sincere actor in this
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Yeah
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And I would I would bet that the like left people that he's talking about are like the Krasnostein brothers
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Or somebody, you know, it's some Twitter person. Yeah. Yeah, that isn't reflective of some real left or
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Or anything? Yeah, it's just pathetic
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Yeah
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It is the the space that what what?
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Combs the combs space the handy
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Like hey, that's that's your job. Your job is to be a Krasnostein who just goes like ah, mr. President
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Yeah, okay, but that's that's the level of what Owen is engaging with
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Yeah, so I noticed at the beginning of this show we're talking about how this is the day that will
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Change everything sure. Nothing will be the same people will be doing things. They can't undo. Yep, and pretty quickly
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I think Owen realized Alex isn't coming. Oh
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Rogers not coming. Oh, he's just on his own on this show
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There's not really much more news that's developing other than bad vibes
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Yeah, and so I think he's just like I think he loses interest. Okay, and he has to cover other news now. I'm interested if
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president G and President Trump can put aside their differences and
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Clink glasses and break bread together. Maybe Musk and Trump can too
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Maybe there's hope for all of us and no maybe
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Maybe the Jews and the Muslims can as well. Maybe we can maybe we can make it all happen guys
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Maybe the dream is achievable if Trump and she can do it. We can all do it
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We can all come together
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Maybe
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Although on the left, I'm not so sure these psychos
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This is a teacher and I guess they took a field trip
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To Washington DC from Indiana very common
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she wore an
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8647 t-shirt and
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They took the picture in front of the White House now. She has officially
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removed
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Her account after this photo was receiving skepticism now, of course, here's the complete and perfect
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Irony of the American left
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So I'm guessing in this picture. They're both teachers, but I don't know for sure
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But since it's a field trip, I think it's a safe assumption
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So you have the teacher here wearing the kill Trump shirt. That's what 86 47 means. We all know it
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Let's stop playing games. So she has the kill Trump t-shirt and then her friend right next door has the be kind t-shirt
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Isn't that nice?
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So kill Trump and be kind that's the liberal for you
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Yeah, you're the nice people who gives a shit
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He's spending time on his show
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Talking about shirts that a class like maybe he's guessing these are teachers. He doesn't know it's a field trip
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so he's making up stuff for his interpretation of shirts that were worn by
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chaperones on a field trip
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Who cares?
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Didn't Kathy Griffin hold up a beheaded Trump thing? Yeah, that was bad. We already did this
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No, but we're all still I mean, I'm past it. We're all still living in the aftermath
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We all got over it. We got over it and I bet you I bet you as a nation will get over this shirt. I
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Can't
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Tell you how stupid this feels. It feels very stupid. This is not a
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Indiana Public Schools podcast
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This is supposed to be a national
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What's the news behind the news we're we're the people my boss is a psychic
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We were working for God and we're mad about this shirt on a class field trip. Who cares?
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I can't think of anything more
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free speech
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Absolutist than bitching about shirts. Yeah, I
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Mean we're talking we're talking Elon Musk and Trump going to nuclear information war against each other and also look at this shirt
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Oh, so I'm gonna get in trouble for saying the n-word and di and stuff, but now they can wear shirts
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Where does it end Dan? Well, you don't understand that it's because the children will be exposed to this shirt
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Oh, that's true. They'll understand numbers
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Yeah
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This is the way that we can Trojan horse this dumb concern into sounding like it's higher minded than it is
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like
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what you if you're doing a
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Goddamn show I mean and you're complaining about a tire on a field trip and it's not like
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Okay, I can imagine if they were wearing like an explosive vest or something like that
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That's not appropriate for a field trip then that the attire decisions. We're gonna need to critique sure
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This shirt you got to calm the fuck down Owen
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This is this should be beneath you at very least it should be beneath your station, but apparently it's not
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So there's another bit of things that are going around on social media, yeah someone who posted complaining about this shirt
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So that's probably why I was doing that. Yeah, and then there's another thing that that was was happening
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That is that this representative Brandon Gill
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He he was doing a doge subcommittee great and a little clip of it went viral when he was asking a lady if she was
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Racist. Oh now here was an interesting situation
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The
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Democrats called a witness who I guess runs all these leftists like think-tank influence groups
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Specifically advising liberals on how they can attack conservatives about being racists
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so representative Gill calls her to task on this and
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The response or lack thereof is actually hilarious watch this in clip 13. Are you a racist?
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With all due respect sir, I'm here to talk about the essential work
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Do you guys know what I'm thinking right now
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No with miss Yentl. I can't I can't I
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Go ahead. Did you dig good representative Brandon Gill questioning? Ms. Yantel? Go ahead. It's fine. Are you a racist?
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With all due respect sir, I'm here to talk about the essential work that nonprofits do so
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This is a clip of representative Brandon Gill wasting time at this doge subcommittee
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Hearing with the title quote public funds private agendas NGOs gone wild
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What a dumb name for a subcommittee channel on while this is circus shit
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And the person testifying is the president and CEO of the National Council of Nonprofits
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Diane Yentl
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You can see Owen make a joke about not making a joke here because her name is Yentl
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That sounds a lot like Yentl the name of the Barbra Streisand movie about a Jewish woman who poses as a man so she can
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Study the Talmud. Okay. It's a movie that is very associated with Judaism
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Which is why Owen thinks it's so funny that this person's name sounds like the title of that movie
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the joke here relies on the audience understanding that a lot of the extreme right-wing believes that
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Calling everyone racist is a divide-and-conquer strategy that's being used by the Jews to destroy white people
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The woman's name sounding like Yentl is really funny because it plays on the idea that a Jewish woman is trying to sow racism
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Which touches on the central piece of Owens belief system that he can joke about but he can't say that directly
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Which is why you saw exactly what happened there. Isn't it really funny guys? You know what I'm thinking isn't this really funny guys?
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Yeah, yeah, yep, isn't it funny that this Jewish woman is using racism to conquer whites
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That's what he's saying. It's very funny. It's crazy. He can't hold that in
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It's good times sure it's good times so we have one last clip here
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Because his show fizzles, but he does have some thoughts on the Pope
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There was more good stuff from the Pope and
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I'm not gonna get into it today. It didn't make my final cut but since we're talking about the Catholic thing the Pope cut
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I'm I'm sitting here
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monitoring the situation with the Pope
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Who I still feel good about and I think since he's become the Pope
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He's been pretty solid
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What doing what?
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Speaking for why why Americans the other day from why how and I'm wondering about this pope and I'm thinking
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Cuz because now it's pretty clear to me. I
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Mean, I'm definitely falling for a sigh up
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Now that doesn't necessarily it's not necessarily it could be a good side
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but could be a bad side, but I'm watching this pope and I'm listening to the things he's saying and I'm watching some of the
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news breaking and
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It's pretty clear that this pope
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was
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selected
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To
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Be aimed right at the American people
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Now again, that could be a good thing. That could be a bad thing. I don't know but I mean clearly
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The Pope speaking in English all the time. He's talking about American issues all the time. He's you know, he's engaging in American culture
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It's very it's very much an American pope. I mean it is very much an American pope
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It feels just like you know, your local your local priest
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So
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I feel like that was all by design now. Is it a good thing a bad thing?
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I don't know time will tell I still feel good about it
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But I think definitely that was the decision was we're gonna go with an American pope and there's a reason for it whether good or bad
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But that is ongoing
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Meanwhile the Kennedy Center kicks off June with sold-out showings of the King of Kings cool. So yeah the
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The
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Pope is American and we've gotten to the bottom of it. He's American. I think the story is that he's American
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Okay, that seems to be the story that Owen is is is covering here. I think I like Americans I'm
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monitoring the Pope's situation
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And I've determined he's American what?
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What exactly is he doing beyond?
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Americaning he's praying sure and now that actually introduces an interesting
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Tension and that is that oh and one of the things that he likes is that he's speaking English, right?
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And this flies right in the face of Alex and all of these
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Sort of Russian Orthodox friends of his who are really mad about the idea that the mass isn't in Latin. Yeah
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Yeah, so like he's what do you want him to sweet until they find out what day the Sabbath is on the seventh day?
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Advantages are gonna be pissed. But what should he speak? She speak English to be glad and I don't know the psi up here is
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That Owen likes Americans. Yeah, that's that's what he's describing
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I mean, I wonder if in in a way that's such a like weirdly
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Good instinct if if his worldview made any sense and we lived in magical world
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This is a good point of view to have right on the Pope because the Pope and Catholicism
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thousand years old
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America not that old. So if something that's very old is like hey, come on over here. Don't trust it
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They're smarter than you. That's the trick
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Sure
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So he should know that a psi up where the Pope is trying to make Americans feel good about the Pope
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That's to steal America make to make America make Pope America. He's going to make the he's gonna make America
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Popeland that's what he should be saying. That's an angle that he's monitoring the situation. So
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Starts to trend in that direction. I'm sure Owen will inform us all of that
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I think that if I had to guess yeah, here's what I would say is actually behind a lot of it. Okay
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I think that people like Owen
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feel an
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elitism comes from Europeans sure and so the idea of like the Pope speaking in in
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Italian or you know some other language makes it feel excluded
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Right and he has a chip on his shoulder that feels like I can't partake in whatever culture you're
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Expressing right and you wouldn't want me there anyway, right?
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And so I hate you now he sees a pope who's speaking English is from Chicago
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Who like is there's pictures of him at football games and stuff? Yeah, he can see himself in that
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He doesn't feel excluded by by American guy. And so now the Pope's cool
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Yeah, it does it does feel like he has the classic American
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What am I in Italy? Why am I listening to you speak Italian? What are you the Pope? Right? Yeah
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Yep
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But I only really kept that clip in because I think it highlighted something that I found
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Fascinating and that is that he said that there were cuts. Yeah, he said there were cuts
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Yep, there were things that he just didn't have time to get to there's like he had an editorial
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Session whoa
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Who's cotton shirt bit who's cotton 86 47? How dare you you get that clip back in there?
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You understand me we could talk about the Pope and then I've been monitoring that situation very closely
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But there is no time I have to complain about a field trip the shirt. I need the shirt the shirt goes
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Okay, buddy
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Jesus Christ fucking unbelievable
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anyway, this guy sucks and
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Alex did not pop back in to give his take so I mean we're still stuck in June
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We are still stuck in the aftermath. We've heard chases take on it. Yeah, we've seen it evolve a little bit with Owen
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Yeah, where's Alex? He's coming back from court. That's where he's at. I'm telling you the bench the benches
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The bench is not gonna get you 25 points a night. I'll tell you they are not going to they're not going to carry your
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Your end of the second half shit. There is no Detlef Schrempf at Infowars
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No, no, sir. No sixth man of the year award going going here. Not even a
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second man of the year
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Anyway, we'll check in and see what else we can learn about this unfolding pile of bullshit and see what Alex thinks about things like
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Trump sending Marines to Los Angeles
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Seems cool, and I'm sure it'll be awesome
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But until then we have a website yes, we do it's knowledge right calm. Yep, we'll be back but until then I'm neo
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I'm the OMD zxclark. I am the mysterious professor
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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a person color my huge fan. I love your work. I love you