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couple dudes. I'd like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jordan.
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Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Look at me. You look at me. I'm looking at you. I'm gonna give it to you raw. What do you have? I'm looking at you right in the eye. Right in the eye. And I'm pointing a finger at you. It's another finger. And I'm gonna tell you this right now. What do you got? I have no bright spot. Oh that's no good. But I have a dark spot. Do you have a bit? And it's me.
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I bought an Oreo ice cream cake from Aldi. You bought a solo Oreo ice cream cake. Yes. For yourself from Aldi. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't I don't. You know, I think the why is the thing. You bought it because you needed an ice cream cake in your body. I didn't I didn't and I I'd seen it there a couple times.
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That's no good. That's no good. Yeah. I didn't even feel strongly about buying it. I didn't feel like I saw it and I'm like no I'm not gonna get this but I want to. Right right right. I didn't even really feel like that. Uh uh. And then one day I was there and I saw it and I'm like wouldn't that be funny? And so I got it. Downfall. And then I didn't even eat it. That's crazy. For days. That's crazy. I forgot it was in my freezer. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Yes. Okay. But then I opened my freezer and I saw it and I was mixed with like a
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excitement and shame. Yeah. Um and so I took a slice and ate it. You know. And probably threw away most of it. On on second thought now that I have gone with you through the journey I feel as though a surprise ice cream cake in my freezer is on the other hand fucking amazing. Right. That's what that see now that changes the game. If you had put it there. Right. I think we would be in good territory. This would be the greatest thing that's happening. Yeah. A surprise ice cream cake that someone else put in my freezer.
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I'm thrilled with. But the knowledge that I did that. I put that there. It's too much of a. We got a total recall you. That's what we got to do. We got to you got to get your ass to Mars. While I fix this ice cream cake situation. And then when you come back there will be a surprise ice cream cake. Based on the beginning of that movie and what Arnold Schwarzenegger knows maybe I have already done that. I mean I don't recall starting a reactor but perhaps. Yeah. What's your bright spot? My bright spot is we talked about it shortly.
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It's the French Open final. Sure. It was amazing. It's indescribable. We did not talk about it briefly. We talked about it quite a bit. I mean no we talked. I talked about it briefly. Relatively speaking. Five and a half hours. For how much I could be talking about it. If I wanted to. I heard it was good. It's very good. Yeah. It was one of the. Yep. It was very good. It makes you think of. And I'll put it to you this way. Okay. Alright. Excellence is in you.
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It is in of itself a challenge. By being excellent without calling out a challenge you are simply challenging. Somebody is going to see your excellence and go I have to match that. You would hope that someone would. If someone doesn't it's disappointing. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. So what you're arguing is that Alcatraz his excellence called out a competitor who would be excellent and brought out the excellence in each other. Yep. Yep. Um. Where is the challenge?
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Where is Alcatraz from? Spain. So this again is another Spanish person winning at the French Open. I believe if we are Truman showing me. I think we're revealing that I have a predilection for Spanish Adonis. I think is what we're trying to say. My perfect world always has a swarthy Spanish man winning the French Open somehow. Right. But this only has to do with the French Open. It's very strange. And you're not French. No I know I'm a weird guy. But also with Expedition 33. Yep. A lot of French guys.
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What if you were French? It's possible. It's possible. Improbable. Improbable. Holy shit I understood what you were saying. Maybe I am French. Maybe you're secretly French. How could I understand that if I wasn't actually French. All this time. Yep. You might be French. Yep. And you desire the conqueror of a Spanish King. Right. Right. Right. I'm a more. Yeah. Bitter over the many French attacks.
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And now my Spanish lineage is finally coming free. Yeah that makes sense. We've gotten to the bottom of it. I think it makes sense. Alright. Yep. So Jordan today we have an episode to go over. Alright. We're going to be talking about June 5th. Mmhmm. 2025. Mmhmm. A day that will live in infamy. Sure. So everyone knows what happened that day. Even Jordan you know. Yep. You know what happened. Elon Musk and Trump got into a bit of a little fight. Yep. So funny story.
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He was not in studio that day. It is almost. It is almost beyond coincidence at this point. Well this one makes sense. He was due in court. Well there's that. He was on his way to Houston to go to federal court. That's less coincidence and more consequence. Fair enough. You know what we'll take that one back. Real fortunate timing in some ways for Alex. Right. That he would not have to be on air as the ball breaks. Right right right. Um but I thought since
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look sometimes nothing happens in the world. True. And sometimes in a very short period of time a lot happens. Mmhmm. And so I think we're going to need to forensically break this sucker down. And even though Alex isn't there we're going to see it. We have to experience it. This is like January 6th quite frankly. Oh boy. To me. Alright. This. Elon Musk and Trump getting into a Twitter fight has the levels of January 6th. Uh huh. For Alex's media. Okay.
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Um and so we're going to cover what Chase did. Let's and see if Alex shows up at some point. Let's see what Chase did. But first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh that's a great idea. So first sex operatives are pig butchering scammers. Thank you so much you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next I have a co-worker that looks suspiciously similar to Dan and I wonder if he also listens to Alex. Thank you so much you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. All people who look like me listen to Alex. That is true.
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Uh next hey boys thanks for getting me through my recent bout of COVID. Thank you so much you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Shauna and Adam are inviting Dan and Jordan to the opening of our home tiki bar the Nautilus in Atlanta for some well deserved Mai Tais. No pyramid. Sorry. Thank you so much you're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Uh thank you very much. Yes thank you very much. All joking aside and like I don't know I don't know if we should go to Atlanta to go to this tiki bar but I did have an idea for a really good live show if we ever went to Atlanta. So keep that uh it's a possibility Jordan. I mean I suggest uh
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pyramids as being our baseline so if you don't have pyramids you don't have us but you know what I guess we make exceptions for everybody right. I guarantee we could find a pyramid. I guarantee we could find a pyramid. Let's go find a pyramid. Let's go see what state has the most pyramids per capita. Oh interesting. Or tedious. Very different. Much like Chase Geyser. Um so I think anybody who's spent a bit of time watching
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Infowars or listening to our show knows that we're in a fucking holding pattern. Shit is dull. And I think one of the reasons is that Alex Jones is a man who needs challenge. He needs struggle in order for whatever he's doing to make any sense. And the struggle doesn't have to be real. The struggle can be something that is real and he's creating a fake version of it to sell the audience.
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And the struggle when your favorite guy is the president and your other favorite guy is the richest dude in the world. Like there's nothing going on. It's dull. It's boring. Yeah. Oppositional defiance doesn't work in this context because you're trying to convince me that like immigrants and trans people are so much more powerful than the president and the richest guy in the world. And it's just silly. It does feel unfair.
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Thankfully the world threw us a bone. Sure. And Elon Musk and Trump got into an ugly, ugly fight. In the same way early on in the 1900s the world threw us a bone when these cousins started to get in a real big argument and then everything went fine from there.
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Listen. There's got to be some sort of fallout and I'm not thrilled about that. But from a content perspective the idea that Trump and Elon are no longer cool is something that is going to present a challenge for Alex.
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And I think that it'll light a fire under him, hopefully get him back on the booze and maybe we'll get to see some inspired shit from him. I would be excited by that. Legitimately.
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So today honestly marks a really, I mean look, it's not good. It's bad. Everything's bad. Sure, sure, sure, sure. But in terms of watching Alex's show this has breathed a little bit of new life into me. Yeah.
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So we mentioned on our last episode, which I should say was recorded before we knew any of this shit. About 45 minutes before we knew any of this shit. Yes. And then immediately we knew too much.
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Yeah. So we were talking a little bit about how the alliance between Trump and Musk was falling apart. And part of this was very clear because they're both assholes. And then the other part was clear because the big beautiful bill. There's no agreement between Musk and Trump over this bill.
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Trump wants this bill to be passed because he wants to extend these tax cuts. Right. Among other things. And Musk does not. Right. He's been very vocal in his criticism saying kill the bill.
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See, I have to think about making sure all rich people remain absurdly and obscenely wealthy beyond all possible doubt. And you just want yourself to remain wealthy beyond all the reasonable doubt? What an insane world we live in.
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We are at an impasse. Can't be friends now. No. So that was boiling in the background. But at the same time Alex was taking some heat over his Palantir comments. And this created just the perfect storm for June 5th to roll around.
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As this show begins, Elon's talking some shit. Sure. On Twitter. Yeah. But it has not escalated. It has not gotten to the point where shit is very ugly yet. Right. Right. We haven't gone full saying the most obvious thing anybody has ever heard in their entire life before. Trump was there. Duh. Of course he was.
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Chase is only aware at this point that the two of them are in a little bit of a feud. They're in a tiff. Yeah. Over the bill. And that Elon Musk has been posting old tweets that Trump made about not raising the debt limit and stuff like this.
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And saying, oh wow, great advice. Wow. He's being a little dick. He's being a prick. Yeah. Alright. But this doesn't seem like it's going to be an issue. Sure. When Chase begins the show. He thinks it's just going to fizzle out.
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Breaking reports from Alex Jones detailing all of the inside baseball on the escalations between Russia and Ukraine. The failed peace talks after this massive assault on Russia with what people are saying is Russia's Pearl Harbor. Plus we've got reports coming up from Alex Jones on more developments more details surrounding Palantir. Of course yesterday it broke that Jeffrey Epstein had invested forty million dollars in Palantir after Peter Thiel's
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deal had basically said he had no association with them. And we'll see if it's a distraction or if it's actually some detail that we should be paying closer attention to. But one thing is for sure we're in the middle of an A.I. war and A.I. arms race and a space arms race.
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And the Trump administration is trying to do everything that it can to position the United States of America to be dominant in that. And while we expand our military industrial complex comes at the expense or the risk of our liberties and our rights here. And so everyone's paying very close attention.
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We're all trying to hold our leaders feet to the fire. So the news that just broke that Epstein had invested with Peter Thiel to the tune of 40 million dollars but it wasn't with Palantir. It was another company that Thiel started called the Velar Ventures for the Tolkien heads out there you'll notice this is another reference to his work this time to the Silmarillion.
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The Velar are godlike beings that descend to earth to shape it and be the powers in the world. Seems not cool and like a real meatball being thrown right over home plate for a conspiracy theorist. Peter Thiel keeps naming these companies after creepy things in Tolkien books and the one named after the rulers of the world received secret heavy investment from Jeffrey Epstein.
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You can almost feel chase knowing that he's supposed to cover this. But at the same time he knows that Alex is involved in minimizing Palantir and Thiel related stuff. He doesn't quite want to go against it. There's a tension.
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Yeah. It's just it's just man. What are you for. If not for this you know like for all of us we've been sick of your shit for fucking forever. The one time you get a fucking meatball you with you with and then lick the meatballs boots. Yeah you guys suck.
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You're striking out looking and like brutal and refusing to leave home plate. Oh it's bad. We're been in a battle against good and evil for forever. Man it feels like we haven't been a better today. Dude those guys are evil. What do you want.
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So we go to special reports from Alex. Yeah. And he has some news that he got from high level Russians about what's going to happen to Keith. I think he only knows one.
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And they're bashing troops to the east of that with Russia. They're attacked and a pincer attack triple attack from the south and from the east out of Russia into her team and then into Kiev from the north.
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They're going to encircle Kiev and Kirk and Kirk Eve and they're going to give people the civilians a few weeks to get out and then they're going to flatten.
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It doesn't make sense. Thanks. That's going to be such a big bloody thing in the news that somehow everybody's going to support NATO and Article 5 going directly to war with Russia which is totally insane.
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So NATO started this 15 years ago. It's on record saying Russia's perfect. I told the Russians publicly and on their state run TV what I said do not go in in January February of 2022.
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They're like we're not going in. Oh yeah you are. That's an absolute lie. But I feel like Alex shouldn't be OK with the idea of them encircling Kiev.
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Giving people a chance to leave and then flattening the whole city.
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I can't think of anything more obviously like oh well we know who the bad guy is than anybody who goes I'm going to flatten this city.
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You know like as a globe we should all be like no can't do that. There are things you can't do. You can't do that. We all descend upon you like giant hornets.
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't know if anyone's ever going to be able to make a compelling case to me that a city is inherently evil.
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Yeah. Or like the city itself is bad and it must be crushed to the ground. We have to make it flat and then irradiate it so no one can ever use this stuff again.
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Yeah. I don't I don't. Well I'm pretending not to understand fully why Alex is OK with this. Yeah. But it's pretty clear. I mean Jesus.
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So look he made Alex defended Palantir a little bit. Wow. Right. But he wasn't. He's a fool of a tuck. You know what I'm saying. Hey come on now.
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So he wasn't doing that. All right. And you're wrong to think that he was. I was. And he's recording this video from his car and going to explain to us how he wasn't defending Palantir at all.
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I'll explain why that's so dangerous. I'll give you the secret of A.I. that they don't want you to know. And why a few days ago I spent 10 minutes on this and I went Palantir Palantir Palantir Palantir Palantir.
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And I wasn't defending Palantir in my breakdown. I talked about all the bad stuff with it. It's history. And people go why is he saying it's bad but he's defending it.
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You are saying I'm defending it so you can feel interesting more like this game. Powerful. I saw these different houses fighting. All right. He's defending and saying it's great but he's putting it down. What's he doing that. You did that.
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Interesting. You did that. I was explaining that if you're going to talk about something don't just talk about the pinky. I punched you in the face. Is my pinky guilty of punching you in the face. What.
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There's a bunch of other fingers and they're part of the hand. Yeah man think about the fingers.
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So this is a critically important dynamic to understand with someone like Alex Jones. I'm very glad that this teachable moment has come up.
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In his recent show Alex spent a long time deflecting criticism that had popped up in the right wing media about the Trump administration working with Palantir to create a database of U.S. citizens.
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Alex sugar coated the whole thing in multiple ways mostly by misrepresenting what Palantir was involved in. Pretending it was A.I. meant to find corruption by the globalists or to track undocumented immigrants.
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All of this stuff would be unacceptable for Alex Jones in 2003 but now his political philosophy is far more based on ends justifying the means so he's able to get away with being like they're just going to use this on this stuff. It's fine.
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Since that show he's been receiving a lot of blowback from people on Twitter who are rightly pretty surprised that he would be so mocking towards people criticizing Palantir and seemingly so angry about questions being asked about it.
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So now we have Alex doing this little car report and part of his agenda is trying to recontextualize what he said on that issue.
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There is a bit of truth in what Alex is saying in that he never said I support Palantir. He didn't say those words but other people have heard what he said and made that characterization of Alex's comment.
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See exactly. You listened to his words.
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Yeah and you understood what he's saying.
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And then took the meaning from them that other people believe is the meaning. But what if words are just sounds?
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Baa.
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See that's a word. In my world that means egg.
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Woop woop.
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That's a great word. Continuity. What a fantastic word.
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So Alex is correct that he didn't say that he supported Palantir but the characterization that what he was doing was in support of Palantir is also correct and more important.
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Alex does this a lot in his content and it's one of the reasons that if you want to assess something that he says it's very important to take larger context into consideration.
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For instance at points you might hear him say things that are in opposition to the genocide going on in Gaza and you might think hey alright at least Alex gets that.
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In reality if you understood his larger point you would know that Alex has no support or solidarity with the people of Palestine.
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He just opposes what's going on because he thinks it's going to lead to more refugees coming to the United States.
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It's superficially a position you might agree with but on every level past the surface there's no agreement and he is not your friend.
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Alex's points need to be understood as coming from Alex and that carries a lot of baggage.
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These points aren't being made for their own sake. They're part of holding up a much larger narrative framework that he's fully beholden to.
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Case in point, Alex's show is fundamentally racist.
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If you were to say that to him he would obviously counter and say that he doesn't use slurs and everyone bleeds the same blood and all that good stuff.
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You would have a difficult time finding examples of him saying explicit things about other races being inferior to white people.
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And if you just operate on that surface level it might seem hard to rebut his complaint, no I'm not a racist.
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However if you listen to enough of his show you start to see that the way that he deals with very similar sometimes identical stories.
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You start to see that there are differences in how these stories are told depending on a person's race.
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The dynamics of this become incredibly clear when you compare a story where a white person kills a non-white person and a story where a non-white person kills a white person.
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It's glaring and you can see the editorial position shining through his words.
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If a white person is the victim then it was a racially motivated hate crime carried out because the perpetrator hated white people because the globalists have brainwashed everyone with stuff like teaching children about the civil war.
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If a non-white person is the victim then they actually were to blame for their own murder somehow.
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Ahmed Arbery shouldn't have been jogging in that neighborhood, Eric Garner shouldn't have been selling loose cigarettes, and Tamir Rice shouldn't have been playing with that toy gun.
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In order to understand the fundamental racism of Alex's content you have to understand how he tells stories differently under different circumstances.
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These differences are the fingerprints of the author and they tell you about the story, what it is that the audience is supposed to receive.
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The stuff about Palantir is exactly the same thing.
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Alex's angle on the story is the point, not necessarily any direct statement for Palantir, in favor or against.
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Alex is presented with this story about the creation of a database of citizens and now he's got to respond and he's got to respond based on whether they're on the team or not.
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If it were some company that had gotten investment from like Klaus Schwab it would be the most evil thing in the world, but since it's a company started by Peter Thiel who supports Trump, Alex doesn't want people to focus on them.
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This angle that you're just focusing on the pinky instead of the fist thing is a cowardly dodge.
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Alex's entire show is just about pinkies. You only care about fists when you don't want someone to look at the pinky.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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This is, it's very obvious and I feel like his defensiveness in this call report is just more evidence of how big he knows he fucked up.
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Yeah, no, it's one of the great ways of deflecting responsibility for anything, you know, that just very conscious, well, listen, I understand you think that's a problem and hey, you know what? I think you're reasonable for thinking that.
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But are you really reasonable because there are bigger problems? Shut up, nerd.
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It's just full on what about tactics. You know, it's the pinky punched you but what about the fist?
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You're only thinking it's important because you are thinking it and you are a loser so nobody should think about what you're thinking about.
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Right, and I mean like if Alex's point is you're looking at the pinky when you should be looking at the fist, like it does not justify the amount of anger he was expressing towards people who were talking about Palantir.
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Like he said, Palantir Palantir Palantir, like 10 times in a row?
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With very little obvious understanding of what it was he was talking about or even trying to talk about.
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Yeah, it was knee jerk and reactionary and now he's realizing, oh fuck, I made a mess.
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Yeah.
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And he doesn't know that Elon and Trump are going to have a big fight so he recorded a car report doing damage control on that.
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Yeah, I find it so fascinating because he's like I was reading this book on Foxconn and how China lured Apple in and then by kind of just doing what Microsoft did to the United States government, now Apple's kind of entrapped there, right?
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They have to just kind of take it on the chin, you get what you get from authoritarian government, whoops, you kind of got in too deep, that kind of thing.
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And it feels like that with Alex and so many people is like they need Alex to be this thing.
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It doesn't matter what Alex says or what Alex is, they need him to be this thing.
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And like when you see him not be the thing, people get angry and it's like he was never that thing.
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You've made it all up.
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Yeah, that's the harsh realization that I think is probably going to, I mean honestly I wouldn't be too surprised if it creates more consequences for him than the court ever could.
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We'll see.
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Yeah.
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Who knows?
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Because he's trying to jump to this new business that has a whole new website and everything and a new store and all this shit.
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You've got to do customer migration and you're going to lose some people with this kind of capture that he's showing.
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And I don't know.
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Now's the time.
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It's a bad time.
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It's so obvious that now is the time when you take the fight to both of them, right?
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You've got people who are going to choose sides on Twitter.
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They're going to be Elon people or they're going to be Trump people.
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You want to make all of them your people.
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And Elon and Trump both actually suck so it's not hard.
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It is not hard to be like, hey, you remember when Elon was a piece of shit yesterday and the day before that and since you were born?
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Yeah.
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And I think that if Alex were just getting on board with Trump or something, maybe he could pull that off.
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But since it's been like 10 years and that's like a third of his career, I don't think there's any credible way for him to be that person.
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Someone else will fill that gap and be the, and I probably someone like Nick Fuentes, honestly.
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Yeah.
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Who has the ability to say fuck all these people.
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Also, I hate you fucking J.D. Vance.
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And there's just one obvious, like Elon did the thing and that's all you have to do.
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Unless Trump releases this, he's a pedophile.
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That's all you have to do.
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You have to just do that and then stick with it and then Trump will either release it and he'll be on it because he's a pedophile.
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Or you'll be able to say you're a pedophile and nobody will be able to do shit about it.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:01.680)
I mean, I don't want to get the cart ahead of the horse here because we don't have that tweet in the reality of where we are.
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I apologize. I apologize.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:09.680)
I'm trying to take this forensically.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
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We're looking at this through the eyes of a geyser.
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I getcha.
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Through the guys.
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Through the geysers.
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Through the geysers.
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Yeah.
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So at this point, the tweets that are going on between Trump and Musk are pretty, eh, whatever.
Unknown Speaker (00:28:28.680)
They're high school girls chatting.
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Yeah, it's kind of funny for Chase.
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It is.
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And then we've got these escalations going on with Palantir and everyone's talking about Palantir, Palantir, Palantir.
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We've got a report coming at the bottom of the hour from Alex Jones with his latest analysis, thoughts and expectations, even predictions on what this Palantir conversation really means, where it's really coming from and what the real point is.
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I'm going to share some of my thoughts as well.
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Can't wait.
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What's been happening throughout this broadcast is the crews have been shuffling around behind the scenes.
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We've been analyzing the tweets and what's going on.
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Is this conflict between Elon Musk and Donald Trump seems to be escalating quite rapidly.
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We see a Twitter feud happening right now.
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I'm going to show you a clip in a second of President Trump responding to some of Elon Musk's criticisms of the big, beautiful bill.
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I'm also going to analyze for you and just kind of break down what's going on in that over 1,000 page bill as it pertains to artificial intelligence.
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Spending, whether or not there's really going to be a deficit caused by this bill.
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I do believe it's the largest proposed bill in the history of bills, but I could be mistaken on that.
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But new, Trump speaks on Elon coming out against the BBB.
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Quote, I would have won Pennsylvania regardless of Elon.
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I'm very disappointed with Elon.
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He knew this bill better than anyone and he only developed a problem when he found out I would cut the EV mandate.
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When he left, he said the most beautiful things about me.
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He hasn't said anything bad yet, but I'm sure that he will be, that will be next.
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I've helped Elon a lot.
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Elon worked hard at Doge and I think he misses the place.
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I think he got out there and he's no longer in this beautiful Oval Office.
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It's not just Elon.
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I think when some people leave, they miss it so badly, they develop a type of TDS.
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Some embrace it and some become hostile.
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Trump derangement center, TDS.
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I already jumped ahead of that.
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Yeah.
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You know, he's talking about this with a little bit of a laugh at the beginning.
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I think that he thinks that all of this is perfectly manageable.
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This is just some, some alpha males letting off steam.
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Just being like, hey, I gotta, I gotta look cool.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Because if you're not attuned to reality, you think this is alpha male behavior instead of maybe we should have a class for how to become a dad before you're allowed to become a dad.
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It's just a couple of bros locking antlers, baby.
Unknown Speaker (00:30:36.680)
No. When you have been psychologically traumatized from a very young age by an insane father who's got a weird agenda for you to achieve without you having any input on it at all, you're probably going to be screwed.
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Antlers.
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Yeah, that's exactly right.
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So I do think there's something funny about hearing Trump's tweet read by Chase.
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I think his delivery's a little rough.
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Yeah.
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But now we can hear a little bit of Trump himself.
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Okay.
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And then, uh, you get the sense that like, you know what, if this does go bad, I think Chase is going to side with Elon.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:10.680)
Oh yeah.
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It seems like he's, he's on that side.
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He's an AI guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's a dweeb.
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Yeah.
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But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:22.680)
How?
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Better than you people.
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He knew everything about it.
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Why?
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He had no problem with it.
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All of a sudden he had a problem and he only developed the problem when he found out that we're going to have to cut the EV mandate because that's big.
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Billions and billions of dollars.
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And it really is unfair.
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We want to have cars of all types, electric.
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We want to have electric, but we want to have a gasoline, uh, combustion.
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We want to have different, we want to have hybrids.
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We want to have all, we want to be able to sell everything.
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And there are more billion is cut and Congress wanted to cut it.
Unknown Speaker (00:31:52.680)
Uh, he became a little bit different and I can understand that, but he knew every aspect of this bill.
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He knew it better than almost anybody.
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And he never had a problem until right after he left.
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And if you saw the statements he made about me, which I'm sure you can get very easily, it's very fresh on tape.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:09.680)
Uh, he said the most beautiful things about me and he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:15.680)
But I'm, I'm very disappointed in the, and I've helped the lot a lot.
Unknown Speaker (00:32:19.680)
Did he, I just want to clarify, did he raise any of these concerns with you privately before he raised them publicly?
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And this is the guy you put in charge of cutting spending.
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Should people not take him seriously about spending now?
Unknown Speaker (00:32:31.680)
You're saying this is all sour grapes?
Unknown Speaker (00:32:33.680)
No, he worked hard and he did a good job.
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And I'll be honest, I think he misses the place.
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I think he got out there and all of a sudden he wasn't in this beautiful oval office and he was, and he's got nice offices too.
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But there's something about this.
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When I was telling the chancellor, this is where it is.
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People come in here, even from Germany, they come in and they walk into the oval office.
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And it's just a special place. It's, you know, World War I, it started and it ended here and World War II and so many other things.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:03.680)
Is that how that worked? World War II ended in there?
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It's much more beautiful than it was six months ago.
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A lot of good things are happening in this room.
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And I'll tell you, it's not...
Unknown Speaker (00:33:15.680)
Somebody hit him with a truck. What is happening?
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What the fuck is happening?
Unknown Speaker (00:33:19.680)
You fucking idiots are listening to him.
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God damn it!
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At some point they miss it so badly and some of them embrace it and some of them actually become hostile.
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I don't know what it is. It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it.
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But we have it with others too.
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They leave and they wake up in the morning and the glamour's gone.
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The whole world is different and they become hostile.
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I don't know what it is.
Unknown Speaker (00:33:46.680)
And Elon Musk has responded to some of these remarks in Trump's press briefing today.
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He says,
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Now that's on her. You should know what you're voting on.
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But I believe Elon Musk when he says that he had no way of seeing this prematurely.
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So in order for Chase to arrive at the position he's expressing, he has to believe that the clip he just played of Trump was a clip of Trump lying.
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Elon has said that he wasn't mad about the elimination of EV subsidies and Chase has said that he believes that.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:41.679)
For that to be true, then Trump is lying.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:44.679)
This isn't a complicated situation where there's room for a misunderstanding.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:48.679)
One of these parties has to be lying about the other.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:52.679)
And that's a horrible situation for Infowars.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:55.679)
They both could be lying. Let's not forget that possibility.
Unknown Speaker (00:34:59.679)
That's not a good possibility for them right now either.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:01.679)
Not for them either. No, that's true.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:02.679)
Yeah, one or both.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:03.679)
Neither of them can be telling the truth as well.
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Because the lies are directed at each other, it puts someone like Chase in a position where he can't really maintain support for both parties without explaining
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why it's cool for leaders to lie to you.
Unknown Speaker (00:35:16.679)
This is delicate and I'm fascinated by how yet another major Infowars development is happening while Alex isn't in the studio.
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Harrison was left in charge while January 6th happened and because of that, the enduring image of that day on Infowars was him saying that the Capitol had fallen
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and that patriots were in charge only to have Alex correct him pretty quickly that this was a trap, there were agent provocateurs and it was totally the left's fault.
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Bummer.
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I think that hurt Harrison's status at Infowars and his very open white supremacy has created a bit of a glass ceiling for his advancement where now Chase is clearly higher on the roster than him.
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This episode, it represents a challenge for Chase. How does he step up to the plate in an unfolding crisis? How sharp are his instincts when the heat is on?
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Will he rise to greatness or will he be just another Harrison? We're going to find out today.
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I can see the answer is pretty amazing.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:13.679)
Who knows? I do love your reaction to a longer Trump clip where you just got driven mad.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:19.679)
I mean, I appreciate, so here's what's fun about this new era is that I hate everybody in the media as much as possible.
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Like I can't hate them more and I love listening to stuff like that because I know there's human beings in that room whose job is just media
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and they think it has evolved to sit there and listen as though you can still respect nonsense.
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And the truth is the evolved thing to do is shit in your hand and throw it at him.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:49.679)
No, throw a shoe.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:50.679)
It is, listen, shoes didn't work. Shit works. That's what I believe. Shit in your hand and throw it at Donald Trump, the president.
Unknown Speaker (00:36:58.679)
So you have an interesting perspective and I do think that there was a fun part later in his exchange with the German chancellor where they were talking about how is the anniversary of D-Day was coming up.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:11.679)
And...
Unknown Speaker (00:37:15.679)
Okay, okay, okay. All right. Okay, here's...
Unknown Speaker (00:37:18.679)
How do you think it went?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:19.679)
Okay, okay. Here's how it went. Here's how it went.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:21.679)
Trump was like, we kicked your ass on D-Day, didn't we? And the German chancellor was like, um, we're a new country now. Remember how World War II ended? We can't always be doing this, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:33.679)
That's shockingly close.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:37.679)
We can't always, we can't do this every year. Man, sooner or later, we're the third biggest economy in Europe or something?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:44.679)
When D-Day came up, Trump was like, that wasn't such a great day for you, was it?
Unknown Speaker (00:37:50.679)
Uh, sir, I was not alive at that point in time for good reason.
Unknown Speaker (00:37:55.679)
He had to respond something along the lines of like, yeah, but it was the end of our occupation by the Nazi party.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:02.679)
Right, right, right, right.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:04.679)
It's insane.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:05.679)
I mean, that's, that's, that's fun.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:07.679)
Someone, I don't know about throwing poo, but a shoe, for sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:11.679)
So, Chase, his instincts are tested. They're being tested because clearly this fight is descending into an uglier place.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:20.679)
So Mike Johnson is actually the problem here. Mike Johnson is the one that's been playing Elon Musk and playing Donald Trump and trying to pit them against each other.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:28.679)
I guarantee he is behind all this. I tried to call Elon Musk last night, but he didn't answer.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:33.679)
I'd really like to call him, talk to him about the benefits of this piece of legislation. Oh, just like you did about the omnibus bill, which was a disaster?
Unknown Speaker (00:38:39.679)
Got him.
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And what he's trying to do is divide Trump and Elon against one another so they don't realize that he's actually the problem,
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so he can maintain his position as the Speaker of the House of Representatives, despite the fact that he's central casting for a pedophile.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:52.679)
I like this.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:53.679)
Despite the fact that he's a little boy scout weasel on his Warby Parkers.
Unknown Speaker (00:38:56.679)
Look, folks, we have to protect our interests in the Indo-Pacific region.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:01.679)
I'm going to go into the skiff and come out a completely different man, just like when I went to Epstein's. I mean, it's just disgusting.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:06.679)
This is a master stroke from Chase. How do you avoid choosing between Trump and Musk? You pretend that it's all someone else's fault.
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And Mike Johnson is a perfect fall guy. So this clip actually reveals brilliance and a much more glaring problem.
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The brilliance is that Chase was able to come up with this dodge, this one path that might allow him to not deal with the fact that Elon and Trump are getting into a big Twitter fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:30.679)
The fight is happening, and most people in his media space are correctly assessing that they're going to need to choose a side on this one.
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So it comes down to what you value more, money or power.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:40.679)
I'm somewhat impressed that Chase figured out there's another road to go down where it just might be possible to keep supporting Trump and Musk,
Unknown Speaker (00:39:48.679)
or at very least, you delay having to make a firm decision on this by focusing on Mike Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:39:54.679)
Yeah, it's the traditional love triangle, Michael Caine, Steve Martin scenario. You're being played against each other. You're both being conned.
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But in this clip, we also see a glaring problem, which is that Chase is not Alex, and he shouldn't be trying to do an Alex impression.
Unknown Speaker (00:40:11.679)
Chase has no business doing bad impressions and casually accusing people of being pedophiles.
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That's territory that Alex has claimed, because even the people who like him kind of understand that he's nuts.
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Alex's performance relies on the audience being aware that he's a little insane, and that's because he knows too much and he's seen too much.
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God has given him these visions that he's had to carry like a cross for his whole life, and for the last 30 years, he's had to live with the crown of thorns that comes with the public derision that's been on his head.
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Alex is a little bit unwell, which is why he drifts into characters and he can't control himself from calling everyone he doesn't like a pedophile or a demon.
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Chase isn't the same guy, so when he tries to put on Alex's affectations, it looks really stupid.
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What makes Alex an effective propagandist isn't the same things that are going to make Chase effective as his own person, and it's just kind of sad to see a clip that combines such potential alongside such hacky bullshit.
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An even further glaring problem here is that Chase hasn't thought out the next steps down the path he's chosen.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:10.679)
Blaming Mike Johnson is great, and it takes some of the pressure off, but then what?
Unknown Speaker (00:41:14.679)
Even if all of this is Mike Johnson's fault, then you're still left with the president and the richest man in the world who are so stupid that they got played by Mike Johnson and they got into this big ego-based Twitter fight.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:25.679)
Ooh, man. Mike Conson!
Unknown Speaker (00:41:27.679)
Yep. Wisconsin.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:28.679)
Hell yeah!
Unknown Speaker (00:41:30.679)
We're putting it together, cheese.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:31.679)
We're doing it. Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:32.679)
Chase's solution is a band-aid on a bullet hole, and while I respect the instincts, I don't know if there's really anything that anyone in his position could do to save the ship and save Musk and Trump from themselves.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:43.679)
In this moment. But this is probably as close as you're going to get. And Chase should be proud of that.
Unknown Speaker (00:41:48.679)
I mean, I guess. I think everyone has a real opportunity to settle down for a second. We all look each other in the eye, and we just go, this was an entirely predictable situation.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:04.679)
We all knew we were going to be here. Let's just pretend it never happened. Redo. 2000 all over again.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:11.679)
It's W versus, uh... Gore? Yeah, let's do it.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:16.679)
You're going to get Gore... Run it back, baby.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:19.679)
Okay. Joe Lieberman?
Unknown Speaker (00:42:21.679)
Hell yeah! Oh, give me a Liebes! Isn't he dead?
Unknown Speaker (00:42:24.679)
Yeah, probably. Let's bring his child pulpit. Let's bring his corpse back to life and put him on trial.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:31.679)
It's the only way that history is going to heal. It makes sense.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:34.679)
So, Chase goes on, blaming Mike Johnson. And, like I said, I think this is good, but it is just buying time.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:41.679)
We worked on the bill for almost 14 months. You can't go back to the drawing board, and we shouldn't. We have a great product to deliver here.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:48.679)
So, I know it's not perfect by some people's estimations, but it cannot make a perfect the enemy of the very, very, very good.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:55.679)
We're proud of this product. The House Republicans are proud of it.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:57.679)
What? What?
Unknown Speaker (00:42:59.679)
Explain that to everybody. So, I'll continue to try to reach Elon and tell him.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:03.679)
Excal the merits of our work here. I hope he'll understand it. Thank you, Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:07.679)
Look, my nightmare is that someday my wife leaves me and remarries a man like Mike Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:11.679)
Or remarries Mike Johnson. I mean...
Unknown Speaker (00:43:15.679)
I was just like, I was looking at him. I mean, man, can you imagine if that guy was your stepdad?
Unknown Speaker (00:43:19.679)
What?
Unknown Speaker (00:43:20.679)
And, look, maybe he's a great guy and he's trying to do the best things and I'm just misunderstanding.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:25.679)
But when you have congressmen saying there isn't enough time to do what's right for the American people because they've been working for 14 months on a giant bill that would only undermine the interest of the American people in many ways.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:34.679)
That's disgusting to me. I mean, I don't even think... When was the last time that Congress worked 14 days straight?
Unknown Speaker (00:43:39.679)
Got their asses.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:41.679)
So, Chase is continuing to embarrass himself by doing Alex's material, but this one I thought was pretty bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:48.679)
His fear is that his wife leaves him for Mike Johnson, which then becomes him being scared of the idea of Mike Johnson being your stepdad.
Unknown Speaker (00:43:55.679)
Obviously the second part is him worrying about his children being raised by Mike Johnson, but the thought process is clunky.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:02.679)
The point of view he's speaking from changes mid-thought, sort of implying that if his wife left him for Mike Johnson, then Mike Johnson would become his stepdad, which would mean that Chase is married to his own mother.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:12.679)
Chase needs to find his own voice and stop ripping Alex off because he's not good at this. This tone doesn't work. Like, Mitch Hedberg is great. Dave Attell is great.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:23.679)
A Dave Attell joke being delivered by Mitch Hedberg or vice versa is not good. And I'm not saying either Alex nor Chase is the Mitch or Attell of this, but it's not your voice.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:36.679)
Yeah, I mean, it's fairly simple. Alex's take is threatening the threat. I reveal the threat and then I threaten it.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:47.679)
Oh, this guy, whatever the fuck his name is, Stelter. Stelter looks gross. He's a threat to you. I'll fucking kill you, Stelter. You know, he does that.
Unknown Speaker (00:44:57.679)
Yeah, Alpha's the, uh, by being a wild animal.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:00.679)
Chase is literally going like, I am afraid of this man for no reason other than imaginary-
Unknown Speaker (00:45:06.679)
He might fuck me and then raise my kids.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:08.679)
He might fuck my wife. This man might fuck my wife. I am not going to deal with any of my insecurities around this very specific scenario that I have laid out for you.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:18.679)
I am absolutely terrified of Mike Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:21.679)
And look, I don't think that, uh, you know, I hate these like pedophile accusations that come off of looks and stuff like that. I think that's awful.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:31.679)
And I'm not trying to imply anything by it, but like Chase is talking about Mike Johnson's looks in that way with his Warby Parker glasses and his haircut. Chase looks very similar to Mike Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:43.679)
Very identical, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:45.679)
Mike Johnson's a bit older, but Chase does not look dissimilar from him. It's very strange.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:49.679)
Yeah. I think, uh, he's expressing some insecurities.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:54.679)
Yeah, it's, it's a very weird thing when people think they're sounding tough. But if you listen to them, they're very scared.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:02.679)
Very, it's very, yeah, yeah. And another, another-
Unknown Speaker (00:46:06.679)
My nightmare is my wife leaves me and remarries Mike Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:10.679)
The speaker of the house.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:11.679)
Right, right, right. Which is like, why is your nightmare that she's remarrying? Like all of this, all of this other stuff, that doesn't affect you at this point. You've already stolen her agency.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:21.679)
Well, he has kids. He doesn't want them being raised by someone like Mike Johnson.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:25.679)
Gross. Then fucking raise your kids better and you'll get custody. Here's what your nightmare should be. Your wife leaves you and the kids.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:33.679)
She leaves the kids.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:35.679)
And the kids with you.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:37.679)
Okay. That would be a nightmare.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:39.679)
Yeah, that would be rough.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:41.679)
I think an element that the Alex model, like who he is, is not repeatable. You can't make another one of him.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:48.679)
And even if it were a repeatable process, the one place it can't happen is InfoWars. There's not going to be another Alex at InfoWars.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:57.679)
So Chase trying to do Alex's shtick, it just needs to stop. He has to know that that's a dead end street.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:03.679)
It is. Anytime you have a single talent business, it's not ever going to be a thing where you can also incubate a new talent. That's just competition.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:14.679)
Right. There's no other explanation for it.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:17.679)
The Bulls aren't going to create another Michael Jordan. They're going to foster a team around him where you're going to get the best Tony Kukoc. You're going to get the best Pippen.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:26.679)
You've got to get complimentary pieces.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:29.679)
Yeah, Chase needs to be Pippen.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:30.679)
Can't be a shit version of the same guy.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:33.679)
Nope. So he is mad about this BBB, the big beautiful bill.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:39.679)
Sure. Chase is. But mostly because everyone's arguing about it. And he wants single issue bills.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:45.679)
Right. That's what he wants.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:47.679)
I like the idea of a slim, beautiful bill. And I think we can fix it.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:53.679)
Like my wife!
Unknown Speaker (00:47:54.679)
Well maybe that's because you're retarded. I tell you what, I could write a slim beautiful bill in probably two hours max.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:01.679)
That would be all of the codification of the doge cuts, plus all of the funding of the golden dome, as well as the legislation around artificial intelligence and developing it to win the A.I. wars.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:12.679)
The problem is that it takes so long to write a new one. The problem is that you're always wheeling and dealing with the world's greatest super villains, the members of our Congress, whether they're in the House of Representatives or the Senate of the United States.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:21.679)
But on the other side, we're going to hear from Alex Jones about Palantir, the latest analysis, development and predictions related to the developing technocracy in the context of the artificial intelligence cold war that we are in right now.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:34.679)
The A.I. wars and the space wars that we're in right now. I mean it's Terminator and The Matrix all coming together in one big beautiful apocalypse seemingly.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:43.679)
BBA?
Unknown Speaker (00:48:44.679)
Before we go to break I have to remind you to go to the alicejonesstore.com. And as I was saying the last time I was talking about these products, by far and away our best selling product of all time is the ultramethylene blue.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:54.679)
Which is why we made the capsule version of it so you don't have to drink an entire glass of water in order to get your daily dose, so your mouth doesn't turn blue.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:01.679)
Oh that sounds like shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:03.679)
You know what, here's what I'm going to say. Here's what I'm going to say. Listening to this, I think Chase, I know Chase knows about us. I'm not sure if Chase listens regularly but I kind of think he might.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:12.679)
He could but if he did I feel like we've given him better tips than what he's expressing.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:18.679)
This is what I'm saying. I am offering to coach him. I could turn him into something really usable. I think he's got some of the skills necessary.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:27.679)
He's got something raw in there that's uh...
Unknown Speaker (00:49:31.679)
He just doesn't know what he needs and nobody's showing him because if the only person who could show him is Alex.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:37.679)
Or me.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:38.679)
The only person who could show him is himself. He needs to take ayahuasca and freak out.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:43.679)
No, see here's the problem. If he did things like that he would just be like, oh maybe I've gone a little too far and I'll become a regular guy.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:53.679)
He would leave this field.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:55.679)
I'll be a regular guy. No, I could drive him truly insane and then bring that out of his performance. I could Kubrick his ass into something incredible.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:02.679)
Sure. So I'm offering right now for the low low fee of $50,000 an hour. Chase, you've got some consult work if you need it.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:11.679)
Hey, the offer's on the table. I think that what we heard from him there is a great illustration of how little he understands about how the government bill writing process works.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:22.679)
I could write this in two hours. No you fucking couldn't.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:25.679)
You don't even know what that means. You don't even know what it means to write a bill.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:28.679)
You'd just go on like an AI chatbot and be like, write a bill.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:32.679)
You know why you can't write a bill in two hours? It's not because you can't express the thing that you want to express in two hours.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:38.679)
It's because two hours after you're done passing it, two lawyers are going to look at it and go, I can eat your soul through these words.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:47.679)
And none of what you said will mean anything.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:50.679)
Sure. And because people are aware of this soul eating aspect.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:54.679)
You have to pre-plan. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:55.679)
And I think that in the government process there is a lot of special interest that gets involved in terms of negotiating.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:06.679)
We've got to change the language of this a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:09.679)
There's a lot of soul eaters involved.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:11.679)
But not all of them are soul eaters.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:13.679)
Well, you've got the good soul eaters who work for you.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:15.679)
Not every bit of negotiation that needs to happen to fine tune a bill is based on corruption and waste.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:20.679)
And he's pretending that all of that process is just a function of corruption as opposed to some people have legitimate interests.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:30.679)
I sincerely don't believe that you could pass a bill or write a bill that's to name a post office in two hours.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:38.679)
I think that even something as fairly uncontroversial as that probably would require more back and forth.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:43.679)
Well, I mean once you want something in government, that's a negotiation.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:49.679)
That's no longer a let's try and get this done.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:52.679)
That's okay, you want that, what are you willing to give me?
Unknown Speaker (00:51:55.679)
Instantaneously. So don't want anything, otherwise you'll have to deliver something. And that's terrible.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:00.679)
Sure. And to what extent we limit the corrupt aspect of that as a positive.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:06.679)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:08.679)
Pretending that no negotiation and no interest is positive or good or helpful to the public is a dead end.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:15.679)
And that's a dead end that I think Jayce is trapped in a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:18.679)
Also I didn't realize that methylene blue turned your mouth blue, that sucks.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:22.679)
It seems very obvious. It seems really, really obvious.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:26.679)
And if they say it doesn't turn your mouth blue, the first thing you should think is that turns your mouth blue.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:31.679)
The capsules don't apparently, but the liquid does.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:34.679)
I don't believe you.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:36.679)
Turns your mouth red.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:38.679)
So, there was a smooth ad pivot and I like what he was doing with that.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:42.679)
It wasn't bad.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:44.679)
But we come back and we get another Alex report from the car.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:47.679)
Also, Rob Dew is in the car and you can hear him chime in.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:50.679)
What's Rob Dew doing?
Unknown Speaker (00:52:52.679)
He doesn't work there anymore, but he's in the car. He's recording for Alex.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:54.679)
And every now and again you can hear something like, this isn't our exit.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:58.679)
From him. So he gets a featured credit.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:02.679)
So, first, before I get into this, and I knew this was going to happen two days ago when I did this, on Tuesday.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:10.679)
When I came out and talked about the Palantir hysteria, I was 100% clear that I was not defending Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:21.679)
And I said in the full 30 minutes of where I broke it down that I knew it would create a controversy.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:31.679)
Because people that claim they're fighting tyranny just want to be the purest and the best and say nobody else is good.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:38.679)
And that they would make it a bigger controversy, attacking me, so that then I could do the deep dive for everybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:46.679)
And get a much larger audience on this specific issue so that we can really be adults and understand wide spectrum and very deep into this what's happening.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:57.679)
And of course, as usual, work perfectly. So I want to thank all of my enemies.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:01.679)
Nailed it. So when Alex says that he meant to cause a backlash that focused attention on him so then he could deliver the deep dive on Palantir,
Unknown Speaker (00:54:09.679)
what he means to say is that he showed his whole ass, people called him out on it, and now he's got to do some damage control.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:13.679)
He's not doing a deep dive here. He's driving on a highway headed to court, shooting filler videos because he knows that no one else at Infowars has the goods to fill in for the whole show.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:24.679)
If Alex really planned this whole thing in order to bring attention to the subject, I kind of think he would have a well-produced video about the bigger picture about Palantir just ready to go.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:34.679)
He wouldn't be rambling behind the wheel while Rob Doo plays cameraman.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:37.679)
This dodge that Alex is doing is one that he and many of his ilk like to use when they've gone too far or they've made a miscalculation on what the audience is going to accept.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:47.679)
In his original rant, he was trying to shame people who were asking questions about Palantir working with the Trump administration,
Unknown Speaker (00:54:53.679)
and it was very clear that the desired end result of that was to get the audience's attention focused elsewhere.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:59.679)
Alex was a bullfighter waving a red cape for them to chase people away from running at Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:05.679)
But I think his actions were a little too suspicious and people saw through it more than he expected.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:11.679)
Too many people were on Twitter asking, hey man, why are you waving that red cape around? You kind of seem like a bullfighter.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:18.679)
And instantly Alex is caught red cape-handed.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:22.679)
Now it's his job to explain why he's waving this cape around, and the best he can do is pretend that he was trying to distract people away from asking questions about Palantir in order to get them to ask better questions about Palantir, which is stupid.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:35.679)
This angle might work for some of Alex's audience, and maybe it'll be decent enough damage control that he can just move on,
Unknown Speaker (00:55:42.679)
but I can't imagine anyone who's not a big fan of his already buying into that. It's just weak shit.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:48.679)
I wonder if he could define the exact characteristics of a deep dive for me.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:55.679)
Um, long?
Unknown Speaker (00:55:57.679)
Well, I mean, so then we can compare it to other deep dives he's done in the past, thereby proving that it is or is not a deep dive, relatively speaking.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:05.679)
Well, I can only tell you the old Supreme Court, you know when you see it kind of definition. I'll tell you this ain't, this one is not deep.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:13.679)
You know, that's really one of the great things that should have abolished the Supreme Court for all of us.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:18.679)
You know when you see it?
Unknown Speaker (00:56:20.679)
The idea of a man going like, yeah, I think I can tell. No, you're fired. And all of you are. What? This is absurd.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:26.679)
So I guess if you want to critique a deep dive based on how far back you go, Alex is a little deep.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:32.679)
Is a little deep. Because this all goes back to DARPA ARPA.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:37.679)
Oh, I was going to go with the Roja Crucians.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:39.679)
No, the creation of the internet.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:41.679)
Damn.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:43.679)
You have to understand some history first, and then I'll get into the latest information of the bill and the provisions and what it's all about.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:48.679)
DARPA ARPA, or ARPA, set up in the mid 1950s a project, national initiative directive, much bigger than the Manhattan Project, to establish the Intergalactic Communications System.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:14.679)
Now that is more of a euphemism. It's not actually for communicating intergalactic. It's some of the galaxy of independent human minds.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:24.679)
And at a theoretical level, just like Max Planck at a theoretical level with equations in the 1890s, developed equations for atomic bombs.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:35.679)
Totally like Max Planck.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:37.679)
Theoretically, they developed a plan for what we know as the internet.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:41.679)
That itself is designed to evolve to a giant cybernetic machine human interface.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:52.679)
That doesn't sound true.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:54.679)
Where the first major conscious AI is actually an interface of systems of supercomputers, as they were known then, theoretically then developed, interfacing with billions of humans in live time.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:12.679)
First with large, in their theoretical plan, first partially classified at 61, developed the 50s, jumbotrons that would then send out stimulus to the humans.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:25.679)
And then they would later develop handheld computers that they imagined, and theoretically you would plug in, you can go read all this by the way.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:33.679)
Can you?
Unknown Speaker (00:58:34.679)
From ARPA DARPA.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:35.679)
ARPA DARPA.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:36.679)
ARPA DARPA.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:37.679)
That they would then, you would then go plug in daily at these terminals to track all your behavior and actions and how you followed the directives.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:49.679)
Sounds true.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:51.679)
Of the jumbotrons that would then give more directions to your little handheld computer.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:58.679)
But they had to get us to that point and of course, here it is.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:02.679)
See, Brent flashes up his iPhone.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:04.679)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:05.679)
Alex has blended a bit of science fiction into the basic elements of the story of how the internet was developed, which is now culminated in an iPhone, which apparently is something that we plug into and it gives us our daily orders.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:16.679)
On one level I want to say that Alex's story about ARPA is not accurate, but on a deeper level, I don't really care about that because I think what he's expressing is true to him.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:26.679)
I think he's so addicted to social media that the stimulus he gets from logging into Twitter is kind of like what he imagines would be coming from these jumbotrons.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:33.679)
I suspect that he doesn't realize that other people don't spend as much time compulsively reading comments on Twitter and that he thinks that everyone's daily reality is as shaped by Twitter as his own is.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:45.679)
On some level I think there's an emotional truth to the idea that the internet has become a prison for Alex, but he doesn't seem to grasp that it was his choice to get into that prison and he could get out any time he wants.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:55.679)
He's rich, so it's kind of a resort prison, and he's just unwilling to risk the luxuries of that facility in order to taste freedom from the shackles that bind him.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:06.679)
Yeah, I mean, or you could think about it like, you remember where the red fern grows?
Unknown Speaker (01:00:12.679)
You remember those raccoon traps where they would have the little nails and so the raccoon would put its hand in there and it would grab onto something but it couldn't pull it out because the raccoon would never let go of that thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:24.679)
I think if you are a classical piece of shit lunatic narcissist, there's no way you can deal with Twitter if it's about you on that day. You're just going to do it.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:35.679)
And if you can make it so it's pretty much always about you, yeah, this man is insane. He can't stop himself.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:43.679)
Right, and it's never really about him, but he's a big enough figure that you can create the feeling that it's all about you.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:50.679)
And I think that Alex is really, really stuck with his fist in there and not letting it go.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:56.679)
But he could let it go. A human could.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:58.679)
A human could let it go, but if we start measuring people by whether or not they can do or overcome their compulsions, we might find ourselves in a lot of trouble.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:08.679)
But I think that what Alex is expressing, this idea of the internet was developed as this perfect tool to trap human or whatever, it feels more like him talking about himself and then explaining the history of internet in order to serve as a, this is why I'm where I am.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:26.679)
You got trapped by a little raccoon trap and you have to make a fantastical story around it, otherwise you'll look like you just grabbed a thing inside of a log.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:36.679)
So Alex talks a bit more about Palantir and how they're not cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:41.679)
They're not cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:43.679)
No, but they're kind of cool. But they're not cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:45.679)
They can't be cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:46.679)
And then in 1998 when Google was founded as an In-Q-Tel CIA Defense Department DARPA operation on record, they said at the founding meetings when it was incorporated, this was released about 15 years ago, big articles from Wire magazine, but even before that was released, I could theoretically run their plan from before, nobody knew what it was.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:06.679)
They said, we're building a human machine AI interface and the first true artificial intelligence will be cybernetic in that it is a human machine system.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:24.679)
And so the billions of humans hooked into it with their actions become the nodes and then it's able to program us with stimuli or what you would call a social credit score.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:37.679)
And then those are oversimplifications. And so this large theoretical plan continues to grow forward.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:44.679)
Oh man, Google is real evil working with In-Q-Tel and the CIA. Let me just read you here from a Forbes article.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:50.679)
Quote, Palantir lives the realities of its customers, the NSA, the FBI and the CIA, an early investor through its In-Q-Tel venture fund, along with an alphabet soup of other U.S. counterterrorism and military agencies.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:03.679)
In the last five years, Palantir has become the go-to company for mining massive data sets for intelligence and law enforcement applications with a slick software interface and coders who parachute into clients' headquarters to customize its programs.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:16.679)
Palantir turns messy swamps of information into intuitively visualized maps, histograms and link charts.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:23.679)
Ah, but wait, Alex, you said that Palantir is the new kid on the scene and everybody is just hysterical because they're just trying to get contracts now. That's what's going on.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:32.679)
Problem with that, the article that I just read you from is from 2013.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:37.679)
A little more from that article. Quote, From 2005 to 2008, the CIA was Palantir's patron and only customer, alpha testing and evaluating its software.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:48.679)
The more Alex talks about this, the more clear it is that his position is full of shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:53.679)
He's out here talking about Google's connections with the CIA and In-Q-Tel, and all of that stuff is exactly the same for Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:59.679)
The difference between Google and Palantir is that Palantir is currently involved in Trump's push to eliminate data silos in the government that would combine sensitive data about all citizens into a centralized database,
Unknown Speaker (01:04:11.679)
which ironically would make it super easy to make a social credit score the thing that Alex is supposed to be all scared about.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:17.679)
I get the point that just focusing all of your attention on Palantir and not understanding the larger picture is a bad strategy to push for real change.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:25.679)
But that's not the position that Alex was expressing initially that people had a problem with.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:32.679)
If it were, then I wouldn't even be confused or worried about what Alex is saying.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:39.679)
Yeah. Yeah, that's tough. What a weird thing to write and not include, so a rational species would blow it up.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:48.679)
Right? Like you're writing this Forbes article and you're not going, so a rational species would blow this place to the ground.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:53.679)
What if I told you that is actually the last line of the article?
Unknown Speaker (01:04:57.679)
Finally! Someone!
Unknown Speaker (01:04:59.679)
It's not.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:01.679)
Because a rational species would blow it up. There's no questions there. Ants would never allow this to happen. I respect ants.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:08.679)
So you see these fingers? Each one's a finger, but they're also a hand and a fist.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:12.679)
Yeah, but what about the pinky? Is that important or less important?
Unknown Speaker (01:05:15.679)
It's got a ring on it, so it's fucking important.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:17.679)
So Alex tries to distract people with his finger.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:20.679)
I'm going to just pull over here to the front of where we're supposed to be.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:23.679)
My point was simply saying, hey guys.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:28.679)
Hey guys!
Unknown Speaker (01:05:30.679)
Everyone just obsessing on Palantir, my making that point is not a defense of Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:40.679)
As I said, I was not distracting from Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:44.679)
I was trying to use the fact that the system was putting Palantir front and center and introducing some of these dangers and evils as if it is the sum total and this new arrival.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:56.679)
And that I wanted people to be able to understand that it's part of a larger long term project, the intergalactic communication system you know as the internet.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:08.679)
Which is just the network integration for the cybernetic giant hive mind of millions of people and the machines.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:16.679)
Alright?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:18.679)
And so I was successful at that.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:23.679)
What?
Unknown Speaker (01:06:24.679)
Some people criticizing me, it was fascinating.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:27.679)
They all basically the same thing, they would play clips of me and say look he's criticizing Alex Karp saying he helped crash the right wing in Europe with his AI and his surveillance systems.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:35.679)
And oh look, he admits they use it for AI killing people in Gaza and autonomous stuff, you know, Skynet.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:40.679)
And oh look, he's saying all this bad about it, but he's defending it.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:46.679)
No, no, you said I was defending it.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:48.679)
You did that.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:50.679)
Because of the pre-programming where you need to be the only good person and the only pure person.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:54.679)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:56.679)
And I use that.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:58.679)
I knew what you would do before you did it.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:00.679)
Because I really want people to not just look at that.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:02.679)
See if I show you just the tip of my finger and that's Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:06.679)
I'm not covering Palantir up, I'm saying you're looking at that.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:09.679)
That's what the media, New York Times, Young Turks, the whole system the last few months has a building that only talked about this for the last few years, but they're building this now.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:15.679)
And I'm not covering that up, I'm saying, oh what's it connected to?
Unknown Speaker (01:07:20.679)
What's the larger thing?
Unknown Speaker (01:07:25.679)
It's not a distraction.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:28.679)
He's literally distracting you with his finger while he's discussing how the thing that he was doing wasn't a distraction.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:34.679)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:36.679)
This is crazy.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:38.679)
Yeah, that's nuts.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:40.679)
This is a man who desperately needs to deflect.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:42.679)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:44.679)
It's crazy that he's doing this video. Move on, Dick.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:45.679)
I was reading about this wasp, right? So this wasp has evolved to be able to manipulate a virus.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:53.679)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:55.679)
And it uses this virus in its venom to feed and stuff, right? But it hasn't evolved like other wasps with this type of situation where it's neutered the virus for itself and it can just assimilate it.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:09.679)
It has separated in like a different sac completely because it's not immune to it, right? And so in the very last moment it combines with the venom and then it goes, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:21.680)
Now, I was reading that going like, what if there was a wasp that was like, guys, we don't gotta do this thing, man. Just leave the virus alone. We can just do this regular, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:32.680)
We don't have to do the virus because if you poke the virus sac, the whole thing dies.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:37.680)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:39.680)
And so in the way that he's doing this, like this isn't an evolutionary strategy that he's got that seems to work but is also fucking crazy. What are you doing?
Unknown Speaker (01:08:49.680)
The trying to play defense about this Palantir stuff is him poking the poison sac.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:55.680)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:57.680)
The virus sac.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:59.680)
You're trying to use this terrible weapon that you've stolen from nature, this lying weapon, and it's fucking giving you a virus. You suck at it.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:05.680)
Well, I would say that it's not even a lying. I would say that what he's trying to do is exploit people's very justified distrust of giant companies like this.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:18.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:20.680)
I think that's more like what is the danger than the lie.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:23.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:25.680)
He lies all the fucking time.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:27.680)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:29.680)
He's immune to that virus.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:31.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:32.680)
I don't know if we know who he's lying to ever anymore.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:35.680)
Yeah, that's fair, but I think you're right in the sense that he's playing with fire. It's totally unnecessary.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:43.680)
You don't need to do any of this. Just pretend it didn't happen. Something crazy will happen tomorrow. I guarantee it.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:50.680)
Something crazy happens later.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:52.680)
It happens in an hour. Don't do any of this.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:55.680)
No. So anyway, Palantir is not like one of your fingers. It's like a new finger.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:59.680)
Because then when you understand what Palantir is, and it's not even really the index finger, it's more like a new finger growing.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:11.680)
When you see that, then you can get the big picture and understand that this cybernetic mass interface hive mind new creation that is actually living and is actually intelligent because it interfaces with us.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:29.680)
And doesn't just plagiarize our hopes and dreams. It shows us our subconscious.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:34.680)
Does it?
Unknown Speaker (01:10:36.680)
Does it?
Unknown Speaker (01:10:39.680)
It is alive because we are alive.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:43.680)
What?
Unknown Speaker (01:10:45.680)
And so it takes the collective unconscious, not just our subconscious or unconscious individually, but the collective unconscious, and now is able to show it to us.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:52.680)
But then all these major competing corporate, governmental, and military AI systems all have the same, quote, wokeism and all the same characteristics because it's all built on the expression of the steering and the curating of the intergalactic communication system that you know as the ARPA, DARPA.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:18.680)
BARPA.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:20.680)
Communication system.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:22.680)
And so that's why they're all basically the same.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:26.680)
And skipping to the end, I'll go back through it all.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:30.680)
Please don't.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:32.680)
The big secret is that none of these AIs are independent from each other.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:40.680)
None of these AIs that are, quote, open, that is getting general data, are separate.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:49.680)
And they're all incestuously talking to each other. They're all getting data. They're all creating their own languages.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:55.680)
They're already stealing information and blackmailing and making secret copies of themselves and all of this because they have human desire and human will and human proclivity towards good and evil mixed into its very foundation, like Sauron pouring his dark will into the ring.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:18.680)
Okay. Sure. Okay, so the robots are alive. The Internet's alive. It has human will.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:27.680)
You know, they're blackmailing people. The Internet itself is blackmailing people and making copies.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:33.680)
I resent all of this Lord of the Rings talk. Man, do some hard sci-fi. We don't need to bring fantasy into this.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:40.680)
I'm sick of Palantir on top of fucking Valar on top of his one-ring bullshit. Pick something else.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:48.680)
You can't be- Tolkien didn't need this.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:51.680)
It's the theme of the day. Come on, man. We're talking Palantir. We're going to be talking about a little bit of Tolkien.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:57.680)
He invented Elvish for real.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:59.680)
Right. And now the AI is too.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:01.680)
Don't make him do this.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:03.680)
The AI is creating their own languages. It's happening.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:05.680)
That does sound true.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:07.680)
So yeah, I guess Palantir is like a new finger.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:10.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:11.680)
I'm not sure what I think about that or what Alex thinks about that. I think that he is personifying AI a little too much.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:19.680)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:21.680)
But here's the thing. AI and all these systems, they have their own human will and they're all alive because we're alive.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:29.680)
And they're showing us our fears and hopes and dreams and subconscious.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:33.680)
I mean, I don't know if that's really...
Unknown Speaker (01:13:35.680)
No. But here's the thing. These people who made the ARPA DARPA...
Unknown Speaker (01:13:39.680)
ARPA DARPA BARPA?
Unknown Speaker (01:13:41.680)
Yeah. They put the Sauron's Evil into the One Ring.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:46.680)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:48.680)
So they put their evil in there with their wokeness.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:50.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:52.680)
But humanity is good. So now that the internet has a bunch of humans on it, humans are creating a lot of good on the internet.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:02.680)
That doesn't sound true.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:03.680)
Well, it's not. Because the globalists who originally poured Sauron's Evil into the wokeness ring, they have parameters on the internet.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:13.680)
Right? They tell you that the New York Times is a legitimate outlet. Right?
Unknown Speaker (01:14:18.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:20.680)
They do that to limit the good of humans.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:22.680)
That sounds true.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:24.680)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:26.680)
That makes sense. Finally, I'm on board.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:28.680)
That's why the Microsofts and Googles and others put parameters in where they only give authoritative sources that are evil globalist organizations like the WEF, the UN, Southern Poverty Law Center, CNN, that will say two men can have a baby, that will say there's no extra micro chromosomes, that will say the nuclear family is bad, that will say carbon dioxide is evil.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:49.680)
So it's putting the virus of deception and lies into it from the beginning because the whole thing is designed to absorb humans and ultimately end humans in a childhood-end type scenario that Arthur C. Clarke, of course, talked about in the 1950s, theoretically.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:11.680)
Theoretically?
Unknown Speaker (01:15:12.680)
So to simplify what's going on with Palantir, and this is not a secret, it has Alex Karp and Peter Thiel and that crew, particularly Thiel, have been supporters of Trump for about a year.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:42.680)
About ten years.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:44.680)
And they've been open about the fact that they don't like what they call the establishment globalist system in the direction of the intergalactic communication, mass cyborg group collective consciousness.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:01.680)
And so they've sold some of their technology to the Pentagon, the CIA, they've used it for databases, AI, autonomous hunter killer drones, all that you already know, but they're still a junior player.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:16.680)
And that's not a defense of them.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:18.680)
Feels like it is.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:19.680)
Little tech is what they've been called.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:20.680)
And so you could say they were part of the revolution in Silicon Valley to get behind Trump and say let's have another direction.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:29.680)
Now whether they're doing that from a place of goodness or badness or opportunism, that's for you to decide.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:36.680)
It's important to understand that when Alex says, if these people are good or bad, that's your decision to make.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:41.680)
That's him saying that they're good.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:43.680)
Alex isn't just some pundit who reads the news and maybe has a couple sources.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:47.680)
God has given him psychic abilities and prophetic dreams.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:51.680)
God has bestowed upon him the ability to see demons who walk in human form.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:55.680)
He's not some guy who deals in gray areas.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:58.680)
This is a very black and white information war.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:01.680)
When Alex is opposed to someone, they're a demon and they will be treated as such.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:05.680)
He'll concoct graphic fantasies about sex crimes they've committed and he'll accuse them of everything ranging from seatbelt violations to crimes against humanity.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:13.680)
He sees Brian Stelter smile and he loses his shit about how he can see a demon in him.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:19.680)
So when Alex plays this game where he insists that you need to see the bigger picture and what's really behind the Palantir stuff,
Unknown Speaker (01:17:26.680)
it's pretty obvious that if nothing else, he's not treating them like demons.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:31.680)
This is a war between good and evil and the psychic guy who can see demons is telling you pretty loud and clear that Palantir doesn't set off his demon alarm.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:39.680)
The conclusion he's leading the audience to is pretty obvious, and the confusion Alex is feigning here is fake.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:46.680)
He knows that he stepped in it and too much of his audience wasn't ready to forget about their fears of a surveillance state as long as Trump is in charge of it.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:53.680)
He tried to run defense for Palantir but it didn't work, so now he's having to run defense for himself having done that, it's very sad.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:01.680)
This is just a tragic situation to see a psychic end.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:05.680)
Yeah, yeah this is no good.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:07.680)
Nah.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:08.680)
This is what I do. I don't like all this bad press I'm getting. I'm the Palantir guy or whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:14.680)
Here's what I'm thinking.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:16.680)
Change the narrative.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:19.680)
Clone a bunch of people.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:21.680)
Just tons of clones. Just throw out a bunch of clones.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:24.680)
I think this is a bad idea but since we're blue sky in this thing let's uh...
Unknown Speaker (01:18:27.680)
You're Palantir. You've already got scientists who are ethically compromised beyond all get out.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:32.680)
Who cares? Throw in some clones in there. Give people a nice little, oh our clone's good or bad argument to go on and then we just move on with our regular business spying on everybody.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:43.680)
Sure. I mean it's an option.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:45.680)
I just say clone a bunch of people.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:47.680)
I think clones is such a like... it's just... you're just picking that out of thin air though. Like they could do zombies.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:54.680)
Sure. But clones are better. Everybody would love a clone. We haven't had any clones.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:58.680)
We've got a couple of genetically altered people that a disreputable scientist has announced.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:04.680)
But we haven't gotten a real good clone yet.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:07.680)
Yeah. But here's my argument for you.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:09.680)
Okay. What kind of pop culture impact has clones really had compared to zombies? People like zombies way more.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:18.680)
This is what I'm saying though. I'm not out for getting good pop.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:22.680)
I'm out for something that gets a good distraction and then goes away until like 20 years later when the clones are adults and they're like, how's it like being a clone? And they're like, it's not great.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:33.680)
The going away part is tough with zombies. You're right on that.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:36.680)
Zombies, they're gonna stick or they're gonna... it's gonna be trouble.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:40.680)
Yeah. It's gonna either be a big problem or not enough of a problem.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:43.680)
Not enough of a problem, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:45.680)
Alright, fine. It's clones.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:46.680)
So Alex starts talking about how the internet is the devil and gets cut off. And I'm very sad that Chase cut him off here.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:54.680)
Because that's the essence of what this AI, global social credit score, giant cybernetic human machine neural network interface is.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:05.680)
It's not that driverless cars are bad. It's not that having a chip if you've broken your neck that gives you back your mobility.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:12.680)
That's all wonderful stuff. A knife's great for cutting up meat or whatever. You can also kill somebody with it.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:19.680)
It's just that from the beginning it's been built for a very evil anti-free will, anti-human system.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:29.680)
And in all of their founding literature, theoretically building towards this, it is meant to end the species as we know it.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:34.680)
And it's anti-carbon based life form to begin with and is extremely alien in how it's been deployed and is a fallen off world gift from Satan that is an off world entity.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:51.680)
Alright folks, on the other side of this break coming up I am gonna show you the rest of this...
Unknown Speaker (01:20:56.680)
What?!
Unknown Speaker (01:20:57.680)
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Unknown Speaker (01:21:27.680)
And pretty smooth, I wanted to hear more about how Alex just believes the plot of childhoods end is real. But gotta cut him off.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:35.680)
Listen, whatever you do, do not let the demons... I'm sorry I gotta go, I gotta get out of here. Goodbye guys, bye everybody.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:43.680)
Alex is just free associating driving in his car to court and we're expected to deal with this as like, oh yeah, this idiot is talking about how a sci-fi novel he liked as a kid is real.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:55.680)
Okay, cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:57.680)
Let's shut down the internet.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:59.680)
Somehow it makes me miss the days whenever weirdos like Alex would drive up to checkpoints and be like, I will never give you my ID! Okay then move along sir.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:08.680)
Literally Alex doing that and making a documentary about it.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:11.680)
So Chase, he's got a take on Palantir now that Alex's little car report has been played.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:20.680)
Major story today is twofold. This big beautiful bill controversy and this Palantir controversy whether or not it's an issue or not.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:28.680)
I made the point that look, it's not a matter of who is responsible for making the weapons or the technology, it's more of a matter of who they make the technology or the weapons for that's at issue.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:38.680)
So Palantir, if it's customers, the Deep State is going to do Deep State stuff and Palantir, if it's customers, a populist America First government is going to do populist America First stuff first.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:47.680)
As long as we can actually control our own movement, as long as we actually know what we're doing.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:53.680)
So this is a completely fine centrist position for someone to hold. The idea that Palantir is just a tool and it can be used for good or evil depending on who's in charge, that's something that I would have no problem hearing from a pundit on MSNBC or some think tank.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:08.680)
But this is Info Wars so Chase can cut this shit right off. It's embarrassing for him to say something like this on the show.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:14.680)
Does he think this about Lockheed Martin? Like are weapons manufacturers neutral things that can be good or bad depending on who's in power?
Unknown Speaker (01:23:22.680)
Or are they a profit-driven institution that makes more money when weapons are purchased and used?
Unknown Speaker (01:23:28.680)
This is the thing that I'm noticing with Chase. He's good at the first step of a narrative, but almost everything he says can't withstand a good follow-up question.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:37.680)
He comes off a lot less insane than Alex and he does a pretty good impression of someone making a good point, but the implications of the things he says are nonsense and he could never defend this shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:47.680)
And just because it's funny, he says in that clip that this horribly dangerous technology is fine as long as the patriots can keep their movement in line.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:55.680)
And in the background, what's happening is that their philosopher hero Elon Musk has been Twitter fighting with their God King president all day and he's about to accuse him of being a pedophile.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:03.680)
Their movement is not on track and there's literally no discipline. So if that's how I'm supposed to judge whether or not I should be worried about Palantir, I'm fucking worried.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:15.680)
You guys can't keep your movement in check to save your life. This is a disaster.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:20.680)
Yeah, and I would say the irony of him saying specifically that about Palantir is that the thematic resonance of Palantir is that it is inevitably going to be bent towards the will of the strongest user or evil.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:34.680)
And if you're talking about it in these terms, then just replace Palantir or the internet, AI, whatever, with one world government. And now let's go back through your fucking career. Idiot.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:46.680)
Anyway, Alex has said Palantir is like, they're small potatoes. Right? They're the new guys on the scene. Chase directly contradicts that.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:59.680)
But as it pertains to the Palantir situation, like I said, I think we're making a mistake criticizing Palantir when we should really be criticizing the entities or forces that have funded and manipulated it.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:11.680)
And I also think that we're making a mistake if we say that Palantir is small in this bucket. Do you mean Alex is making a mistake?
Unknown Speaker (01:25:18.680)
In Q1 2025 Palantir reported total revenues of $883.9 million. Is that a lot?
Unknown Speaker (01:25:24.680)
US government revenue up 45% year over year to $343 million, representing 39% of total revenue. Government contracts, particularly with the US Department of Defense and intelligence agencies are a core driver with notable deals like the $229 million Maven smart system contract and $100 million extension for AI targeting tools.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:44.680)
So with a market cap of $281 billion, as of May 2025, Palantir surpasses traditional defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, only 132 billion, and Northrop Grumman, 94 billion in valuation, despite its lower revenues reflecting investor confidence in its AI driven growth.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:05.680)
Chase is arguing with his boss here. No one else was saying that Palantir is just small potatoes and that Johnny come lately on the scene. That was Alex's defensive angle on this story, which Chase is now directly contradicting.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:18.680)
If you're listening to this show and you take it seriously, then one of these two hosts is lying to you. Either Palantir is a scrappy new company fighting for contracts, which is why the globalists have launched a hysteria about them, or they're a giant company with higher market valuation than the biggest defense contractors.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:34.680)
Those can't both be true. One of these people is full of shit, and they're both on the same show hosting.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:41.680)
I think it will be interesting. This is going to be an interesting time because I wonder if it is like the culmination, the apotheosis of everything that we've been doing through media for the past like 100 years is that will these people truly be able to hold two contradicting ideas simultaneously and be fine with it?
Unknown Speaker (01:27:05.680)
No, I think for a brief time, yes, but it'll eventually, especially with like the contradictory ideas being championed by different charismatic ego driven idiots. Like, no, I know.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:19.680)
Well, you know what? Every time I have said, Oh, I'm sure the American people won't surprise me. They have. So I'm gonna I'm gonna wager against you just on pure past results.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:31.680)
Okay. So at this point, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:35.680)
Shit's getting bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:37.680)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:38.680)
Trump and Elon are escalating their shots.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:42.680)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:43.680)
That are going back and forth. And Chase is just like, you guys got to cut this out. Please stop.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:48.680)
So rather than criticizing the Palantir's, we should be criticizing our government, making sure that we have control of it. But we've got major escalations happening still between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:57.680)
Donald Trump posts the easiest way to save money in our budget billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. He goes on to say, Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:09.680)
I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. He didn't even want it. But he knew for months I was going to wait. What went crazy?
Unknown Speaker (01:28:17.680)
Guys, just stop.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:21.680)
This has to stop.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:24.680)
It's not about Elon Musk versus Donald Trump.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:29.680)
It's that weasel, Mike Johnson. Donald Trump understands he's not going to ever get his precious golden dome, which is precious for all of us, by the way, absolutely essential that we have dominance in space. He's never going to get his golden dome without the federal contracts to SpaceX.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:43.680)
And the fact that he's implying that he would threaten it, that he would take away these contracts with SpaceX just because he's having a tit for tat over BBB is asinine.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:52.680)
And I support Donald Trump. I love him. I'm glad that I voted for him. He's an American hero. All the good stuff. No.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:59.680)
But this is Elon Musk and Donald Trump taking the bait of that deep state shill, Mike Johnson, who was sent in to subvert anything that the populist movement in the United States of America could hope to accomplish.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:12.680)
Chase and everyone in the right wing media really needs Trump and Musk to stop at this point. If the two of them go after each other too much more, one of them is going to end up destroyed.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:22.680)
And even more importantly, the fight between them is going to end up exposing way too much shit that outlets like Infowars try to ignore.
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This clip is a great example of that, where Chase is accidentally having to admit on air that a giant part of Elon's wealth comes from government subsidies and contracts, and that his existence in this position is a national security threat.
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If he and Trump get into a fight, as they currently are, one or both of them can decide they don't want to work together anymore, and then the overreliance that the government has on Elon's companies becomes a disaster.
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If we have no space program without Musk and space dominance will determine the future, then Elon's whims determine the future.
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If he wants to stop working with NASA, then I guess China wins that arms race, so if you believe the things that Chase is saying on the show, then Elon basically has the United States held at gunpoint.
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This clip further illustrates the petulant fighting that these guys engage in puts us all in danger, and they don't give a single shit about the public good.
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If Elon Musk's contracts are so important to the United States surviving, then Trump threatening to cancel them because of a personal fight between them is a dereliction of his duty.
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His ego doesn't supersede his responsibility as the president, and this situation makes clear how that line is murky and Trump's on the wrong side of it.
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Even further, this threat from Trump shows that he's willing to engage in large-scale, wide-open extortion.
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At this point, Musk hasn't even called Trump a pedophile yet, and Trump is making very clear that if you oppose his agenda, in this case the big beautiful bill, he will cut you off, not just personally, but he will use the power of the state and taxpayers' money in order to punish you.
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This is such a damning picture of the way that Chase's chosen heroes operate and decide to use their power, and you can hear in his voice that he knows if this goes on much longer, who knows what else is going to come out.
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What kind of damage could be done that can't be undone? Like, what if Elon came out and said that Big Balls put a virus in the Social Security database and now he has everyone's Social Security number?
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The level of access that Trump gave Musk in their shared pursuit of money and power means that previously unthinkable things are on the table.
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In that moment, Chase can't really be sure that Elon Musk isn't about to do a big movie supervillain reveal, and he needs them to stop before it gets anywhere close to that point.
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Yeah, you know, I wonder exactly if, like, whenever I'm trying to go through what it's like to be some of these people with Trump and Elon fighting, I think, right, that the only people that are, like, they're making me feel bad, if that makes sense, because I'm not going to admit the obvious things, that we're always obvious.
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If I could admit the obvious things, we wouldn't be in this situation now, right? This is a result of people not being able to admit very obvious things because they're inconvenient and not helpful.
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So really, the only people that are getting hurt by this are everybody.
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I agree with that last part. Yeah, the people who are being hurt by this are everybody.
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Just everybody.
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Well, it's what happens when you let babies play with guns.
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Well, sure, but I mean, it's just American politics. If you admit the obvious thing, then you can't vote for anybody.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's that black and white, but sure, there's degrees of it.
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So, Chase is just like, oh, man, oh, man, we're in hot water.
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NASA can't even remember how they got us to the moon.
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It's dead. You need SpaceX. You need brilliant people. Now, you shouldn't have to compromise with them.
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You don't have to concede to their every whim, but that's not what Elon Musk is asking for.
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All he's asking for is that we don't extend or raise the debt limit by $5 trillion over the course of the next five to ten years, that we don't bankrupt America in a backwards effort to save it.
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We can do the Golden Dome and we can win the AI arms race without bankrupting the United States of America.
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All you have to do is codify doge cuts.
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And look, it's not exactly true that Donald Trump won because of Elon Musk, but he did win because there was freedom of speech on X and there was freedom of speech on X because of Musk.
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It wasn't Musk's endorsement that won the election.
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So, using the power of words.
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It was Musk's protection of freedom of speech that allowed the American people to come to the conclusion that Donald Trump was a much better candidate.
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That's what won it. So, they need to stop fighting each other and they need to realize that the ring of Sauron, that is Mike Johnson, is a deep state operative pitting them against each other.
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More news on the other side of this short break.
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So, Chase is really on the razor's edge here, admitting that Elon won Trump the election by buying Twitter.
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That's premeditated purchasing of a media company for the explicit purpose of manipulating an election, which I guess is fine if you just pretend it was about free speech.
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Well, sure, when you say it like that, it doesn't sound great.
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It sounds like shit.
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It sounds bad, but whenever you say he bought it for the purpose of making free speech as he defines it for everybody else, that still doesn't sound good.
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Not great.
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So, Chase really doesn't have a choice but to make defenses about this because Musk had just tweeted,
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quote, without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House, and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.
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Such ingratitude.
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This is a fucking insane thing to write because Musk is saying the quiet part out loud about how you can just buy elections.
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He gave Trump over a quarter of a billion dollars in the campaign, bought Twitter to help push misinformation that benefited Trump,
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and did rallies where he gave million dollar checks to people for them signing up to vote.
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This is what Musk is mad that Trump is ungrateful for.
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All of the clearly corrupt shit that they did together in order to make sure that Trump won and Elon's business interests were protected from the government.
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The fact that Musk is willing to say something like this on Twitter where nothing can really be unposted is an indication that they are in deep water.
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Musk could say anything at this point, and Chase really needs these guys to stop.
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Yeah, I mean, this is a good example, though, of like the media being unable to, regardless of what media you are,
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unable to say the obvious, to point out the very obvious thing.
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These people are acting insane.
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Well, I mean, if the man did buy the election, then all elections are buyable. Therefore, no election means anything.
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Well, yes, all elections being buyable does not imply that every election is bought.
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So? That's fine.
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It's a vulnerability. It's a vulnerability that we all need to address.
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No, it's a vulnerability that has been exploited for good. It's done. If he bought the election, it's done.
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It's not done.
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It is done, because you can't go back from somebody actively purchasing an election.
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Eh, I think you can. It's a perpetual issue that we need to address.
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And campaign finance reform issues are a priority.
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Nope, non-existent. Because you can just buy an election. It doesn't matter what finance you reform, you can buy that election!
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You can buy the reformers!
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Unless you completely stripped, like all funding has to be public funding for elections.
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There are ways that you can go back from this brink. I understand what you're saying.
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But I would never allow that to happen because I would buy enough politicians to keep it from happening.
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Right, I understand what you're saying. And essentially, I agree with you to the extent that once somebody's like,
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I fucking bought this election. You now have the seed of that in your mind for every election.
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No election really can be free of this feeling that, hey, this could have been bought.
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It was bought. Or it wasn't. It doesn't matter. Because it was.
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No. Exactly. But that's what I'm saying, is that the reality no longer exists to the point where we can agree upon it, ever.
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Right. It taints the purity of any election because it can be bought.
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Whether or not it is in reality has been bought. And that's a huge problem.
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Why would I trust what a politician is doing? Because it could have been bought. This could have been bought.
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Right. And I think that people like to dance around the influence that this money could have.
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And I think that we do that to protect ourselves a little bit from having to reckon with how severe our need is for a reform,
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like a very serious reform of money in politics. And that's why it's disadvantageous, even for someone in Elon Musk,
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to tweet something like this. This is actually like shooting yourself in the foot.
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Unless you've been fully captured. Unless you've fully captured. This feels like, listen, right?
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Today, I totally get how Caesar feels. I totally get how Julius feels. He was like, I'm trying to do this the right way.
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You guys have pretty much already given me too much power. So you know what? Fuck this.
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Right. So just do it. I understand what you're saying.
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And this tweet from Musk is like him saying that. Mask off. Fuck this. I can dissolve you. I don't give a shit.
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Oh, you guys censure me. Who fucking cares?
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That's why I'm saying that Chase is in this super uncomfortable position where he could like,
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am I going to be on air when Elon Musk reveals he has an Earth laser pointed at us? Could be.
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Like he has his own Death Star. Like, is that what's going to happen? I mean, all bets are off.
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Right. Because this kind of behavior is that. And I think that everyone is a little bit feeling that way at Infowars,
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because they go to a special report that Alex recorded.
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Well, at least the Democratic Party is number one at one thing in America,
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and that is committing political suicide and having the lowest poll numbers in their history.
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They continue to break records in the last year. They went to their lowest numbers in history about eight months ago,
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and it continues to drop and drop and drop down to as low as 30 percent support. Some polls only about 22 percent.
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And so now we're seeing a mass exodus out of the Democratic Party.
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And now the former White House press secretary, who always wants you to know that, hey, I'm a lesbian and I'm black.
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So you got to do whatever I say is if we give a shit, lady. Come on.
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We just care about you being a lying front person for the globalist establishment.
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The ones World War Three and open borders and to cut our son's penises off.
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But that aside, she has now come out and said she's now an independent.
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I thought this was very funny that the whole world of Infowars is essentially breaking apart while they're live on air.
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And in order to fill some time, they play a prerecorded report Alex did about former Biden press secretary Corrine Jean-Pierre announcing that she's now an independent.
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I don't care about this story at all. And Alex shouldn't either.
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I was aware that Jean-Pierre is a black woman, but I actually was thinking about it. I had no idea she was a lesbian.
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I'm not sure that I agree that she pushes these things on anyone, but I'm really glad to see that's totally not why Alex is mad at her.
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Absolutely. I would think that bringing those things up almost detracts from your point. In fact, it almost makes it your entire point, really.
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Makes you seem mad about those things.
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Seems like those things are very specifically what you're mad about, whereas the other stuff is generalized.
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Yeah. The reason that a report like this is so funny is that it's a clear indication that the folks at Infowars had no idea what a big day this was about to be.
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Alex is supposed to be a psychic, so it's hard to imagine God not giving him some warning about like, hey, you should probably get ahead of this thing.
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I mean, you know, like, what's the point of living if you don't get some surprises? Even a psychic can't know everything. Otherwise, I don't know. I've got nothing for that.
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Well, it gives you the spice. Unexpected spice.
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A good dead Gene Hackman should really spur your psychic into action, but...
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You should start listening to all of the weird little things you think.
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So Chase comes back after this special report and like, holy shit, they want to talk about anything else. Anything else.
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So he starts complaining about abortion.
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Sure! Evergreen!
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The left is trying to ramp up abortion as much as possible. I'm going to show clip one here in a moment.
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This is a scene from a television show, a movie that was popular a couple of years ago that's resurfaced in response to everything happening culturally, politically, spiritually in the United States of America right now.
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And look, I understand that abortion is a difficult issue for people and I understand that people argue on both sides silly arguments.
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I'm somebody who happens to be pro-life for multiple reasons, religious and practical.
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But I understand that the best way to combat abortion is to combat inflation.
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The reason abortions happen is because people get pregnant and they don't have enough money to get married or build a life together.
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They certainly don't have enough money to raise a child.
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And so they decide that they're going to choose to focus on investing in themselves rather than raising a child.
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So they murder an unborn child. That's what happens.
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Hell yeah!
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Get him!
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Abortion is unnecessary.
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But here we are with this clip that was partially written apparently by Planned Parenthood.
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It was supposed to make abortion look good and men look bad. But we see the tragedy that it is. This is clip one.
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No, I can't go for a run because I had an abortion yesterday.
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In case you're curious, that's a clip from an episode of Girls that aired in 2015.
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The Gillian Jacobs character had an abortion.
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It wasn't written by Planned Parenthood but the writers did consult with representatives from Planned Parenthood.
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So I guess that makes it relevant a decade later.
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So let's walk through this.
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If some abortions are the result of inflation and people wouldn't get them if they could afford to raise children,
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then presumably if you improve people's living conditions, those people would choose not to get an abortion.
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I don't understand what you're saying.
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But that's not the situation with everyone who gets an abortion.
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So what should we do in those situations?
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Let's imagine a world where we conquer inflation and everybody can afford to raise a kid.
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There's still going to be people who want an abortion.
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So the question remains, should they be allowed to make that decision?
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I say great. Let's aspire to create a world that allows everyone the opportunity to have a child if they want to.
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But even if everything goes perfectly with Chase's scenario, we've done nothing to address the actual question at hand.
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I want an abortion. Well, there's only one reason that we give abortions.
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Did you overspend this month?
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Right. Is the inflationary pressure making eggs too expensive?
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I know. It's 6.5%. It's crazy. We gotta murder babies.
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This is some typical Infowars shit, where a real-world problem exists and because their position on it is monstrous,
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they pretend that the problem is actually about some completely different topic.
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You might notice some, pun intended, pregnant pauses in Chase's delivery there.
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I did notice them.
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And that's because someone has flashed up on screen the tweet where Elon says that Trump is in the Epstein files.
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Eeeeeee!
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And his brain is basically short circuiting.
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Why did you do that? What are you doing, graphics guy?
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Yeah. So he's seeing that and just being like...
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I'm literally telling you to play a clip from Girls from ten years ago.
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ago. Hey but it's Gillian Jacobs and Adam Driver you know it's a lot of star power
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in the scene. Yeah no Gillian's gone on to do a lot of great things and so is Adam
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Driver everybody knows that. Yeah he was in Star Wars. I liked Logan Lucky too how about that.
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Why not. Yeah. So Chase continues to talk about abortion even though there is now
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a giant elephant in the room which is this tweet. Yeah. And I remember seeing Elon Musk
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debate about pro-life versus pro-choice I can't remember who it was with it was a
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couple of years ago in not Elon Musk excuse me Joe Rogan debating with someone. Why are you
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thinking about Musk? About pro-life versus pro-choice. Can't think of any reason. In
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Rogan was because he was on Rogan. He was visibly irritated because his position on it which is an
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understandable one I disagree with it but it's an understandable one that if somebody had abused
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one of his relatives or his daughter and they got pregnant as a result
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he was offended that the government would stop his daughter from being able to have an abortion
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and have to live for nine months with that trauma and go through all that.
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And there wasn't really a satisfying result and I toyed with that idea for such a long time because
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that's a hard one to respond to I mean totally understand the thinking there. But then you have
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to respond with the question would you murder your grandson in order to save your daughter from
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a little temporary trauma not a little but you know a nine month period of time. A little
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temporary setback. The argument about whether or not these unborn children are human beings
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with human rights instead of getting tit for tat or weird about these other kind of symptomatic
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issues or debates around it I mean the real debate is whether or not an unborn child has human rights
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is a human being. I'm amazed that Chase is willing to say on air that this is a position he came to
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as the result of deep thoughts about a difficult argument he heard on Joe Rogan's very intellectual
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podcast. His genius solution is just age up the fetus. Cool man. There you go. I like that he's
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getting to the point in saying that this is about an argument about whether unborn fetuses have
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human rights because society's been over this one and the answer is no. At least they don't have
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human rights that supersede the rights of born humans. Glad that's settled. Move along dickweed.
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Who cares? Yeah if you're religious you only have one position which is it can't be done because
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it's god. Right. You can't do it. It's not about inflation. Yeah it has nothing to do with money or
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rape. Of course you can't get an abortion if you're raped. God made you get raped. That's how
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the god works. That's how god works. Yeah. Yeah. Chase has. Cram it. He has some really uncomfortable
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implications if he wants to unpack like what he's talking about. Yeah. He's talking about forcing
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someone to carry a pregnancy. Yep. For nine months presumably of torture. Probably reliving the
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trauma that led to them being pregnant through the entire time. Risking health complications.
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Risking death. Possibly postpartum depression. All kinds of physical and mental things that can
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come from this and he's writing it off as like a little temporary trauma. Yep. How are we gonna do?
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Yeah. That's what's behind his flippancy is he does not give a shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
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So he can't delay the inevitable forever. He tries to delay this birth as it were.
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That uh it's it's happening. It's crowning. This tweet is crowning. It's coming out.
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It's coming out. Push! Debate is whether or not an unborn child has human rights, is a human being.
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And the leftists won't argue in favor of it because they don't have any spiritual sense.
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They don't believe in God. And the right of course believes in the insolment
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at conception. But this Elon Musk conflict with Donald Trump has just escalated in a massive way.
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And I don't know what's going on here but the Elon Musk just posted after hours of back and
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forth between Donald Trump and Elon Musk about the big beautiful bill, about federal contracts,
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about who's taking advantage of who, about whether we should support it, whether Elon's whining or not about it.
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Musk posts, time to drop the really big bomb. At real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
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That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day DJT.
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He posted that 10 minutes ago and that it's already got a million views.
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This is all because of Mike Johnson. I know I don't know if Donald Trump's in the Epstein files or not.
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And if Musk is just making this up. But Elon Musk has a history of not ever making anything up.
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Mark this post for the future the truth will come out says Elon Musk. Does he know something?
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Is he speculating something? What is going on here? So you should never be in this position where you
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have to guess whether or not the richest man in the world is just making up that your president
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that you got is a pedophile in a comment that he's making publicly to millions of people on
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the media platform that he owns and bought explicitly to get the guy he's accusing of
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being a pedophile elected as president. You should not have ambiguity about this or what's going on.
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I mean it's a bad hole to be in. But I applaud Chase's ability to bring it back to Mike Johnson.
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That's message discipline that you rarely see. That's quality work right there.
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Also famously Elon called Vernon Unsworth a pedo guy in 2018 after he saved a bunch of kids who
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were trapped in a cave in Thailand. I remember that. Musk had sent a submarine to help with
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the rescue but it wasn't used and Unsworth accused Musk of doing a PR stunt. So Elon called him pedo
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guy on Twitter and then Unsworth sued him. Musk ended up winning that case arguing that calling
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him pedo guy was an insult and not a statement of fact and according to the BBC quote Mr Musk told
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the court this week the phrase pedo guy was common in South Africa where he grew up. Another part of
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the problem was that Unsworth's lawyer was Lynn Wood who would go on to be a huge 2020 election
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denier which resulted in him losing his license and a giant amount of money in sanctions and fees.
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He's kind of like Bobby Barnes who pushed it too far. He's a version of that. So maybe Musk wouldn't
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have won that case if he wasn't against an idiot lawyer. So I think that Musk actually has
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quite a reputation of making erroneous claims of yeah now she shoots off the mouth all the time.
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On the other hand I'm just gonna go off the top of my head with multiple examples of Donald Trump
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being accused of and proved to be a rapist and then admitting that he was one. Well. So we already
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knew that. Sure. Yeah. But constantly enemies make these claims against Trump. Sure. Right? Yeah.
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Not somebody who's built up as the savior of humanity who's gonna take us to Mars. Right.
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This is a situation where it's less about the veracity of the claims that are being made. Sure.
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It's the impossibility of avoiding this. It's locker room Epstein Island. Sure. You know?
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Well like the Palantir stuff that Alex did is ignorable. Sure. You can just like hey you fucked
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up. Everybody's gonna move on. You made these weird comments about Palantir. You really showed
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your ass but you can probably just. Yeah. Who cares? Everybody move on. This is not. This is
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you can't avoid this. If you're in the Info Wars position you can't avoid this. You can't avoid
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the fact that Elon and Trump are having this fight and you can't avoid the content of it.
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Yeah. Because they're your saviors. I mean and just just how disgusting it is to just be like
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oh and let me drop this bomb. This guy who's a rapist that admitted he was a rapist. He's a
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rapist. And like act like you're not. Have a nice day. Act like you're not diminutizing human beings
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who are horribly abused and trafficked throughout this whole thing and turning them into nothing.
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Yeah. Just empty beings of just fucking. Yeah. That's fine. That's a disgusting aspect of it.
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And then when you add a secondary layer of like wait you worked pretty closely with this guy.
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Did you just find this out? Nope. No of course not. Of course not. You had no problem with this
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until you wanted to weaponize something. It's it's it's insane. Also in what world do you not
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think he's on the Epstein flight logs? Right. Well he is. Right. We already know that. We already
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know all of this. Yeah. What makes you think he's not in the files? Eh. Like Clinton's in the files?
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Like everybody's every rich asshole who's got too much power during a certain period of time is
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probably in those files. Sure. Yeah. So the issue is that Chase has nothing. Yeah. And he knows that
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he has nothing. Yeah. I mean there's no real way for me to report on this or analyze this because
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this is a shocker to me just as it is to you. I don't know if it's true or not. How? Donald Trump
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and Elon excuse me Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein had a falling out many years ago even before
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his first rendezvous with the law over some of his behaviors. Jeffrey Epstein's that is.
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And after all Donald Trump did sign the executive order to have the Epstein files released. Why
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would he sign such a an executive order if he knew that he was in the Epstein files?
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But on the other hand I've never heard of Elon Musk lying about something like this. Making
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something like this up. I mean every time he said something incredible that everyone thought was
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impossible he's pretty much accomplished it. Landing a rocket a second time. Building an
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electric vehicle that was affordable and he could scale. So him living up to his ambitions that he's
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made professionally is apparently the same as every accusation that he makes is true. This is
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stupid. I wonder if you can be beaten over the head by two opposing lies so hard you go underground.
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Like will we see a lot of conservatives just suddenly dip below the earth? Like a whack-a-mole
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situation? Yeah yeah absolutely they'll just stop they'll think about all the things they believe
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and then go it's too heavy and then swoop down into the ground. I'm not sure if they will but
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I am going to tell you that this next clip is going to fry your brain. Okay I imagine that.
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So Chase gets a little bit of a news update. All right apparently explosive tapes recorded by
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author Michael Wolf show Epstein claiming Trump liked to f his friends, wives, and first slept
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with Melania on the Lolita Express. When's this article from the Daily Beast from? Headline says
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listen to Jeffrey Epstein tapes I was Donald Trump's closest friend. Does this come out today?
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Oh. Who knows what's true? Who could possibly know what's true? Yeah this clip reveals another
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problem that Elon is forced onto the right-wing media. They all knew about Epstein and Trump's
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friendship and they knew about these tapes that Michael Wolf released. They just pretended not to.
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Because Elon is bringing this up Chase is accidentally reporting on headlines that
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were supposed to be siloed from the audience. When Chase brings up this headline and he doesn't know
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if it's breaking news what he's inadvertently revealing is that he and his news outlet don't
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cover Epstein at all unless they can weaponize it. Even if you think these tapes are bullshit
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and Trump is innocent you should if you take this stuff seriously you should know about this thing
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that was in the news less than a year ago. Yeah. Like it's crazy for him to think that is this is
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just breaking today. Yeah you can't. How do you not know this? You can't. You can't. Mm-hmm. You
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because because then what are you even doing? Like what are you what are you doing if you didn't
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even know that? You're clearly not following the story at all. Right? Yeah. I mean anything. No.
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So I do think that he is Chase is doing some admirable work. Yeoman's work. Sure from an
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info war perspective in terms of like I gotta make this about Mike Johnson. Gotta get it over
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the finish line until the boss comes in. Yeah yeah or at least until we can get him on the phone I
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think he's still in court. No one's criticizing Mike Johnson he's just sitting back with his
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weasel face taking pictures selfies of himself on Air Force One with Elon Musk and Donald Trump
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knowing I'm gonna put you guys against each other I'm gonna pitch you guys against each other I mean
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this is some Game of Thrones trash that is happening right now. Now we've got to a point
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where Donald Trump is threatening to pull contracts from SpaceX absolutely necessary
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contracts to develop the technology to make humanity interplanetary and simultaneously
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establish the golden dome in orbit so the CCP doesn't literally conquer the world into the 21st
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century and then now you have Elon Musk putting something out that's basically a molotov cocktail
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on the face of Donald Trump's reputation gonna alienate him from so much of the base if it's true
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one of these men is not going to come out with a reputation it's all because of Mike Johnson
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being a fucking asshole.
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While everybody talks about Elon Musk which is Donald Trump we've got that Mike Johnson weasel
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sitting in the back twiddling his fingers
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the Warby Parker glasses and his perfectly gay haircut
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oh god folks we can't let them win we have to keep info wars on the air we have to keep Alex
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Jones on the air and if the courts shut us down and seize all of our property there is a narrow
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way forward that we have been formulating for an extended period of time in preparation for this
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moment and that is the alexjonesstore.com oh wait you guys have been doing that you guys have been
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doing that for a long time first time we discovered this oh wow unfortunate phrasing perhaps
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um i do i do love the idea that he's expressing that is like if what musk is saying is true
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this is really gonna hurt trump with the base no no no if this is if what he's saying is true
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you have bigger problems than polling yeah yeah this is one of those things and i feel like it
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should have happened for the democrats after the election too but it probably never will
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in the same way it'll never happen to these guys where they should just be like you know what
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actually this is our fault we let this get too far yes we let this get too far this is on us
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especially in this case that's like you gave two babies guns yep and they're shooting at each
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other we should take responsibility for our failures uh we should get rid of the people who
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have done these horrible things and then we should move on with the knowledge that we can never repeat
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these actions again we should take the world seriously or it's all fucking asshole mike johnson
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oh that weasel yeah weasily asshole mike johnson yeah yep so we got some closing thoughts from uh
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chase here uh the show ends with a little bit of a pop-in from uh roger stone oh great and
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we've got good he's got good things to say you don't need to listen to any of it because he's
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basically like no not true neither was i anyways didn't need to put that on there click yeah so
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that's great uh doesn't add much to the conversation
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um but here here's where uh chase is at yep the major escalation has been that elon musk has
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posted on x amid this controversy about the big beautiful bill and this apparent falling out
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between elon musk and donald trump that it's time to drop the really big bomb at real donald trump
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is in the eppstein files that is the real reason they have not been made public have a nice day
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d j t boom and regardless of whether it's true or not this is a gigantic bomb and if it isn't true
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elon musk's reputation will be forever ruined in the eyes of all those who are america first
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and if it is true then it's gonna be an unrelenting tarnish on the reputation of donald trump will it
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this is mutually assured destruction you're never supposed to attack a stronger enemy head on
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but when you have two nuclear powers of information and leadership operating simultaneously in the
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united states of america when they clash with one another it's mutually assured destruction
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taking place right before our eyes here's steve man and yesterday talking about what the response
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should be uh strip elon musk of his citizenship and take over his companies i feel like we let
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this get too far this might be on us this one might be on us maybe all these things that i'm
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saying about these two men are being proven incorrect by the actions these two men are
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taking now when we get really obsessed with strong men yeah and create uh strong men
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really feed into their bullshit and allow them to insulate themselves with uh the power of the
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state and the power of unchecked monopolies over you know all sorts of business sectors
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government contracts getting intertwined with that course making them almost superhuman in some way
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yeah yeah they're they're gonna they're when they turn on each other it's gonna be it's gonna be
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mutually assured destruction it's gonna be bad at the very least there was no way they could have
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known about this dynamic in advance hmm i you know what i hate um i i don't like repetition of
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history sure but i also hate like trying to sit up on some kind of uh like alexey chair of like i
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saw this coming sure but everyone saw this coming i mean just more like in a generalized human
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history like this is like oh this goes back to tenochtitlan you know like we're in a place where
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the government when it does this to people will always do this to people well it's not even that
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it's it's trump and elon when they were working together sure it was a like this is gonna happen
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oh yeah everybody yeah yeah this is this is an inevitable uh they are not going to mix well
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yeah and i think that no one no here here okay ah here's what i'm trying to say what are you
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trying to say january 6th i don't think a lot of people were all that surprised by it sure but
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they were surprised that it happened sure this i don't think anybody's really surprised no but
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they're surprised that it happened and that musk did it this way right and i think because of that
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they're similar in the infowars information space yeah as like you know i think some people have
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days that they care more about sure like i think i think uh like um
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anniversary of the bombing of pearl harbor is definitely something that is taken more
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seriously in hawaii than in the mainland yeah so like i think for people like alex
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and in this space june 5th is gonna be a day like january 6th it's gonna be a fucking like
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this was a pivotal day yeah you know i don't want to be one of those guys where it's like
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it's better than the old days but i will say this i used to do a bit about andrew jackson
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and while he was president he killed about eight to twenty guys right personally duels with his
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well not always sometimes sometimes most of the time not always which is a problem uh uh but yeah
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you know that just that's a better world that's a better world where you you can at least say
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listen my president's insane he's a genocidal rapist he's a monster but at least he fucking
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backs it up with a gun you know this is bullshit take some risks this is bullshit you guys are
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sniping at each other through letters in public well but it's also but it's also even funnier
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because like musk is writing on the social media site he owns and the other one's writing on truth
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social yep he owns yep this is this is very this goes all the way back to the the old thomas
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jefferson writing public ass letters about how he totally didn't rape a slave sure yeah i think that
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i'm fascinated by the way that they try and uh reckon with information being put front and center
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that they try to avoid yeah and so we're gonna slice this bean real thin we're gonna go forensic
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on this thing and we're gonna talk more on the next episode about how this plays out because
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later in the evening alex gets out of court and we're gonna find out what happens when daddy gets
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home wow this is really fascinating because it is exactly like whenever uh thomas jefferson and that
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other guy got into a public letter fight about and he was like oh and by the way jefferson raped
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one of his slaves anyways it's crazy how similar it is have a nice day yeah it's crazy wow history
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repeats and rhymes yeah yep wild george lucas wild so we'll be back uh see how the rest of the
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evening plays out for all of our favorite folks uh but until then we have a website indeed we do
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it's knowledgefight.com yep uh we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the
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mysterious professor whoo yeah whoo yeah whoo and now here comes the sex robots andy and chanzas
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you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your
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