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Nutrition
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Dan and Jordan I'm sweating
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knowledgefight.com
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It's time to pray
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I have a great respect for, knowledge Fight
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Knowledge Fight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge in a fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge fight.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Need, I need money.
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy and.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy and.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a 6-time color language fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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Like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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I'm gonna give you this.
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And I'm gonna give it to you, I'm gonna give it to you raw.
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Don't, don't, do, do, okay.
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I'm serious.
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Okay.
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I'm pointing at you.
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I understand.
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I don't have a bright spot today.
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But I have a dark spot.
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Okay.
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And it's me.
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But Jesus, this is, this is deep.
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Here's what happened.
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Okay.
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I was ordering some food the other day.
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Yeah.
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Went with Jack in the Box.
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Right.
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Because I love a Jack in the Box taco.
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You really do.
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I like to feel bad.
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Yes.
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I noticed that they had a BOGO situation.
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A buy one get one on a spicy chicken sandwich.
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Oh no.
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So I took advantage of this.
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Yes.
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And it was great.
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Everything was fine.
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Sure.
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But I ate one and I intended to leave the other for later.
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Okay.
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So I put it in the refrigerator.
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No.
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And then was presented with the dilemma of reheating in the microwave, a spicy chicken
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sandwich from Jack in the Box.
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And I did it and I ate it and I feel like shit.
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Do you mean about the thing or as a physical human being?
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Physical.
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Yeah.
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Physical.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Not good for my stomach.
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No, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Why did I, I should have thrown it away.
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I understand.
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Um, I had eyes too big for my stomach with getting two spicy chicken sandwiches.
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I don't know why you did that.
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I did it intentionally to have one for the next day.
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Right.
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And that was foolish.
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Right.
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Stupid.
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It was hubris and I paid the price.
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It makes sense.
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It makes sense.
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If I'm, I've ordered more pizza than I need because I like a good cold pizza.
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I enjoy that.
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Right.
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It makes sense.
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Chicken's a little different maybe.
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It is a little bit different from Jack in the Box.
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Just chicken in general.
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I don't know if you want to eat a cold chicken on a pizza.
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Maybe you do.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, um, yeah.
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So I've had, I've had a rough, uh, little bit of stomach.
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I believe you.
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But, uh, Hey, you know, you live and you learn.
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Yeah.
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Or, or you don't.
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Yeah, I'll probably do it again.
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Yeah.
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You just keep living.
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What's your bright spot?
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Uh, my bright spot.
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I'm going to have to go back to tennis.
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Uh, you, we talked the last time you were like, oh, this is a fairly tepid bright spot.
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My friend, I was wrong.
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Oh.
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I was wrong.
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This is a great tournament.
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This is one of the best.
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I don't, I don't think you were saying it was a bad tournament or coming in with a little
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bit of low energy.
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I was now.
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This has been a ridiculously good French open.
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We'll see.
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Here's what's happened.
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Yeah.
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You've realized that this isn't about the legends of the past.
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Sure.
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This is a new story that's being begun by the, this, this new generation.
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And now you're invested in it.
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I think, I wonder if that's the case or if they are.
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Maybe, cause we, I, we talked about this a little bit.
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It was like, be without Rafa.
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There's, you know, there's just infinitely more chance you might win the French open.
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Right.
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Right.
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And a lot of the players you felt were playing with a PTSD of having lost to Rafa so many
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times that they just don't even think winning is possible.
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Right.
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Right.
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At least in some circumstances, because there's very clearly, and I watched the match today
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between Alcaraz and Ben Shelton and it was great.
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It was such a great match and both of them were playing very well.
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And the thing about one-on-one individual sports at the absolute highest level is that
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sometimes the difference between people is just one person actively wins this shot.
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Whereas the other person does it.
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They both play great.
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It could be like a margin of error, basically.
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Except this person always does it.
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Except it doesn't matter.
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Federer was playing, you know, you're playing five sets.
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You've played an incredible match against Federer, but he's going to win because when
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it comes to that point where you win, he wins it.
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That kind of thing.
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And that was the difference.
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Alcaraz just has that.
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He's just got it.
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But he didn't have it against Rafa.
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No, because nobody had, and that's, but that's why it was so fun to watch Rafa, Federer,
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and Djokovic play each other because what happens when all of them have it?
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They all have that little bit.
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They've all got that little bit.
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So then it turns into like a literal, like these people are trying to die.
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I'm sure that tennis match that you're describing was good.
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It was great.
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But I have to say that Ben Sheldon is not a good name.
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It's not a good name.
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Shelton.
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Even still, these people have exciting names like Rafa, Djokovic, Alcatraz.
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All of these are fun names.
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Agassi.
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Runa.
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Right?
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That's a great, Holger Runa.
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That's a name.
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I'm Ben Sheldon.
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I'm Ben Sheldon.
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It's all right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Get off the tennis court.
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He's he's a-
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Is he flashy?
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Oh my God, he's great.
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Okay.
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He's like six foot four.
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He hits a serve at about 145 miles an hour on the reg.
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It's fun to watch.
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And he's a lefty.
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Big southpaw from-
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Yeah, he needs a new name then.
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He does.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Sure.
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We're going to be talking about our primary ding-dong.
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All right.
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And I will say this is actually a rare instance where I think that I'm doing something
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by request.
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Because some people wanted some coverage of this thing.
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And so I'm doing it.
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Okay.
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And we'll talk about that here in a second.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, Northern Rainbow Readers and Writers event.
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It's August 20th to 24th in Toronto.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next birthday shout out to Lego Kid from Star Trek Mom.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And King Gizzard and the Lizards Wizards Lizard Gizzards got wizarded by lizard people.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Fuck you.
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And we're going to technocrat in the mix.
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So thank you so much too.
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Dan, please remember to buy a coat while they're on sale.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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I'm riding high on an intense hubris from going the winter without buying a coat.
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Yeah.
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It is now past winter.
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It is.
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And I feel like I pulled something off.
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Are we, are we outside the Bellagio right now?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We got away with the Ocean's Eleven style.
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And everybody who's reminding me to buy a coat.
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Sure.
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It's well-
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Naysayers.
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No, no.
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It's well-intentioned.
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Okay.
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And I'm, I'm glad that they have that thought.
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But every time I hear it, I just get a ha ha.
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Right.
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That's coats over suckers.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So we're going to be talking about the 24th, May 24th, Alex's Saturday show.
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All right.
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And the second half of it is him in his backup studio.
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Okay.
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The Alex Jones Network Studio.
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Right.
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With Chase Geyser.
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Okay.
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And they're talking, they're talking some heavy stuff.
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Oh my God.
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We're going to get into some heavy things.
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Okay.
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On this episode, because they're just broing out.
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They're just broing out.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Honestly, good.
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I'm kind of, yeah.
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I'll be interested in this.
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It's it highlights an inherent problem that we're going to, we're going to feel as this
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goes on.
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And that is that sober McGurk isn't good.
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Yeah.
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Brendan needs McGurk and McGurk needs to be drunk.
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Right.
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And their dynamic doesn't really hit quite as well when, when Alex isn't in the sauce.
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Yeah.
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That's just, that is a struggle.
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Yeah.
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So he starts off instead of being drunk, he is fucking so tired from working on his abs.
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And thank you for joining us on this Saturday afternoon emergency transmission from our
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podcasting studio section of the Alex Jones Network backup system.
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If the bad guys are successful shutting down Infowars, which they're trying to do as early
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as June 6th, I'm in federal court.
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I'm in state court.
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Just type my name into Google.
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If you want to follow all of it, they do not want it sold anybody.
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They say they want it closed.
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They said they do not want money.
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And they're separately all over the news saying we're finally going to get our money closing
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Infowars, which is even worth a half million dollars of equipment.
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Most of it was like seven, eight, nine, 10 years old.
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So this is all separate.
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This is paid for by the folks at Bigly and the Alex Jones Network's not owned by me.
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RealAlexJones.com is not owned by me.
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The Alex Jones Store.com is owned by me.
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And that is going to finance the new company and the new folks and the new owners and the
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same crew right out of Austin, Texas.
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And the very folks we're working with, you hear those announcements soon are already
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moving in and closing on the building they're getting.
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And so regardless, even if Infowars gets saved, we're going to move into better facilities
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and everything.
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This is just a bridge in that process.
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So they thought all their attacks were going to shut us up.
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When I when I did, let's not exaggerate, when I did it probably about a thousand reps of
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abs today, today was an ab day when I did about a thousand ab exercises today.
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I did it because I love the country.
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I love my children.
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I want to be here for a long time because the enemy wants to break me, make me miserable.
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I am the happiest I have ever been.
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I believe it.
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Sounds true.
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Yep.
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When I think about happy people, I think about people who talk exactly like that.
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Yeah.
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People who are convincing.
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Yep.
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You know, I just love I did this crunch because I love America.
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Sit up for America.
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There's I've never been in a situation where somebody has engendered confidence in me by
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saying I love something.
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That is why I have done crunches.
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I've never been like, I believe you.
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Let's be conservative.
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A thousand.
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That makes me believe you less.
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Cool.
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So I think that if all of this is true, I don't care about the abs, but if this stuff
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about his business is true, I want to get a look at those contracts.
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Yeah.
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Because he has to be on their payroll then.
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Right?
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I mean, like if Big Lee and other people own all these companies, he must be an employee.
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I wonder what he's getting.
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I wonder what the cut is.
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I wonder how all of this works out because it's probably pretty scammy.
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Yeah.
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Um, and also I think it's kind of funny.
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The idea that if these companies then wanted to offload the Alex Jones store, the Alex
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Jones network or whatever, they could sell it to somebody and Alex is still on contract.
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Yep.
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So if someone wanted to do something really, really funny, I think I'd need about $20 million
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dollars and I could buy Alex Jones.
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Well, that wouldn't be the worst thing I've heard.
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I feel like we're in a situation where, um, all right, so the ending of Old Yeller, tragic.
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Quite.
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Very, very sad.
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But I think if we all stop and we just sit down with our feelings, we prefer the ending
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to Old Yeller to being like, well, let's watch Old Yeller decay into a horrid poisonous
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mess until it dies.
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And then we go, wow, we should really just shoot this dog in the head, right?
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Well, I think that Old Yeller, one of the things that we miss out on, uh, because of
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the way that story is told is when Old Yeller got swole and did a bunch of crunches.
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See, I think, I think maybe we just skip that part.
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I think we should have just handed Info Wars and Old Yeller pass and just moved on with
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our lives.
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Yeah.
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But now we're watching the desiccated corpse gather flies.
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Yep.
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So that's nice.
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And part of that gathering flies process involves making fantastic promises about what your
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God named Trump is going to do.
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Abs.
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Like give everyone free energy.
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Okay.
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I want to get into Trump and I want to get into his announcements of the super technology,
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super energy.
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We control time and space.
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We have weapons you wouldn't believe.
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Well, I don't just believe Trump.
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I know theoretically that everything the theoretical physicists, the quantum mechanics in the 1890s
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so they could do by the 1940s, they could do.
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And then the theoretical physics, all that stuff you see in Star Trek and all that was
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people looking at the physics and extrapolating out what can be done and continually, whatever
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you can theoretically lay out with enough technology and upscaling we're able to do.
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Yeah, man.
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If you could just imagine things, then eventually they're true.
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Whatever you could lay out with enough scaling.
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Okay.
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Anything that is hard sci-fi is now possible.
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Now that's possible.
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It happened.
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It's real.
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I would suggest that once we become able to control time and space.
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Which Trump says we can.
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We should have fewer worries about all the time and all the space that we're dealing
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with right now.
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You know what I'm saying?
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If Trump has come out and announced that we've conquered time and space.
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Yeah.
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Then our realities should be a lot different than they are right now.
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I mean, at the very least, he should be using that power for more evil.
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Like we should be in a horrid monster, like evil Wiley kind of castle.
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Either a lot of our problems should be solved or he should be way worse.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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One of the two.
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Time and space should not be in his control at all.
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Yeah.
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I do like the premise though that Alex is working off of, which is this, like, if someone
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wrote a sci-fi book 30 years ago and they kind of had a rationale for why the thing
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that's in it is based on science.
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Yeah.
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Then we can do it.
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Star Trek's been done.
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It's already done.
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We did it.
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Yeah.
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I wonder what he would be like if he had gotten into steampunk instead of hard sci-fi, you
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know?
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What if he had looked backward and forward at the same time?
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I feel like it might've been better.
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We might have high speed rail by now.
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Yeah.
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He might've been advocating for that instead of yelling about this stupid road in his documentaries.
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Yeah.
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We should've dealt with the Ayn Rand people by just giving them railroads, you know?
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And then just like, leave us alone.
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We'll handle all other transportation situations.
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Sure.
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So there's things that are happening.
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Like Trump has announced that we've conquered time and space.
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Sure.
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China, they have their own sun.
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There's a lot of free energy systems that obviously can be used for weapons.
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There's a lot of technologies.
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I mean, hell, they were making artificial black holes in the 70s that had been here.
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Just look that up.
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I mean, China launches artificial suns at beach parties for the government, which is
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very dangerous, by the way.
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You get out of control.
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They can create strange looks.
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Thanks for letting us know.
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Black holes, superconducting hydrogen, superconducting supercollider.
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All of that really is Buck Rogers and beyond.
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And we are in the year 2025.
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So Alex is reporting that China launched a new sun.
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Like it was done because it was overcast on a day when the government wanted to go to
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a beach party.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The real story here is that they set a record for the longest maintained stable nuclear
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fusion reaction at 17 minutes and 46 seconds.
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They did this at their experimental advanced superconducting Takamak reactor, which is
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colloquially called an artificial sun.
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This reactor has been operating in China since 2006 because of the way that Alex is covering
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this and the details that he's adding in.
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It's hard to imagine that he knows anything about this story past him skimming a tweet
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that said artificial sun, and then he just made up the rest from there.
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Yeah.
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But that's fun.
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I mean, it is fun.
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I would like to live in a world where someone has control over time and space and another
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person has an artificial sun available.
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Right.
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That would be great.
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And unfortunately it's going to lead to a superhero clash between is time travel better
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than nuclear suns, like having your own sun.
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Right.
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And as we all know, eventually questions this big come down to two individuals punching
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each other.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And time travel wins.
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Yes.
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Because then you can go back and make them not able to have that sun.
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And then you'll have a Groundhog Day thing where you have to go back too much and then
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you got a great time loop movie and then you move on.
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And you get kind of sad for a while, but then you figure out how to...
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Play the piano.
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Change yourself so you're nicer.
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Yeah.
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And Andy McDowell likes you and then everything's cool.
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Okay.
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So say tomorrow Trump has a 180.
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Do we just assume that he got trapped in a time loop?
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That or a concussion.
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Okay.
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Yeah, probably.
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All right.
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So Alex, now obviously having discussed some very real and very important things, starts
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talking about interdimensional entities.
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Of course.
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Now, when I talk about interdimensional entities, that's in all the ancient text of all the
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ancient cultures.
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So these things would just appear and disappear.
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And then you understand quantum mechanics and physics, and they've tested that out now
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how particles go in and out of this universe.
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And when we observe them, it affects them.
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There's a lot of different tests that can be done on that and different ways.
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And we know the dark matter is way more powerful energetically than even the third dimension,
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and that it's holding this dimension in place.
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Of course, theoretical physicists 100 years ago postulated that.
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Now all these advanced instruments, they're able to read that and track that.
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So the future's here, it's just not evenly distributed.
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And I was told that eight years ago, Trump was gonna try to start digging into this and
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deploying it as a real way to innovate and get us out of debt and things like that.
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If you think the computers of the 80s and 90s caused a boom, that is child's play compared
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to free energy or zero-play energy or different types of things along those lines.
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Alex loves talking this shit, but I really don't think he has any idea what any of it
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means.
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I have zero confidence that he could coherently answer the question, what is the observer
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effect, if an interviewer asked him.
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He has a couple of these buzzwords that he throws out to make this bullshit sound scientific
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and scholarly, but I've watched Reset Wars.
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I know that he doesn't understand any of these concepts in more than a superficial sense.
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And I think that that's where you can tell that he knows that what he's saying is a fraud.
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If you knew that interdimensional entities were popping in and out of our reality and
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that we have the science to explain it and harness that, you would learn more about that.
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Alex believes that superpowers are real, they're attainable, and that science explains them.
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But then he seems to know all of the...
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His total awareness of this subject is vague references to the observer effect, Max Planck,
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and dark matter.
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I don't believe that he would be so uncurious about this field of study if he actually believed
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that it was a portal to other dimensions full of probably demonic beings.
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And his lack of actual interest leads me to suspect that he doesn't really believe any
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of this stuff.
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He just knows that it's the best way for him to seem interesting and to mask his Christian
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fundamentalism that's at the base of all of his beliefs.
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But also when he says that the future is here, it's just unequally distributed, that's literally
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the point of that article, Looking Forward to the End of Humanity, that he constantly
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cites as the globalists sending secret messages to people.
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Yeah.
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That's the point of it.
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Yeah.
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Is that access to increasingly effective medical technologies is not equally distributed across
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the world and across class lines.
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Yep.
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So maybe you should read the articles that he fear mongers about.
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You know, you bring up a good point.
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If it were real, he would care a lot more.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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He would have a depth of knowledge.
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And I realized that that's kind of my view on why I feel like people who are concerned
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about magic and witches and the like should just look at me.
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If magic were real, I'd be way into that shit.
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Sure.
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I would be into lightning bolts.
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I would find a way because magic is real.
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Like you wouldn't even have to worry about, am I telling you the truth or not?
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I don't give a shit about you.
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I care about lightning bolts for me.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you've looked into it a little.
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Yeah.
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And if it was real, I'd be way shooting lightning bolts.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I think that the difference between you and Alex is that you don't pretend that you can
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shoot lightning bolts.
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I'm disappointed that I can't shoot lightning bolts.
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Yeah.
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Alex has just decided it's impossible to shoot lightning bolts, but I'll tell everyone I
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can.
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Yeah.
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And that strikes me as dishonest.
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It's one way to get rich, but it doesn't feel good.
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It doesn't feel as good, I would assume, as shooting lightning bolts out of your fingers.
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Yeah, probably not.
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That's probably just like you're licking the batteries.
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It's probably just so good.
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Yeah.
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It's probably great.
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Yeah.
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Or it's terrible and it's like being electrocuted.
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That's also possible, yes.
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So the aliens.
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Sure.
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The interdimensional beings.
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Right.
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Do they have to be?
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Well, I suppose they would be by definition alien, even if they weren't from another planet.
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They're from another dimension.
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No, no, no, you're right.
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
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That's on me.
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And so they help the Nazis get technology.
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Sounds right.
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Again, of course, governments always looking at it from a weapons perspective.
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If you think the atomics of the 40s were bad, they could destroy life on the surface of
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the Earth.
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That looks like a pop gun compared to what these technologies can do.
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But I'm not specifically looking at those different secretive classified technologies.
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The US is obviously way more advanced than others.
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The question is why.
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It's why I heard that Gregor Eich report earlier that really gets to the heart of just the
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German line of that and where they said it came from.
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And I've read those text that's in the history.
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They believe they were getting it channeling aliens.
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But you said we were crazy.
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Those are top scientists in Germany.
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Hundred years ago, just a little more than a hundred years ago, that was all the rage
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then was mind power.
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But then whatever they were given either was already pre-programmed into our subconscious
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mind.
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We were just channeling what had already been put there epigenetically because we did it
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before.
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And it just took on in the mind that it was aliens or the Aryans.
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Or were they really channeling interdimensionally this information?
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And that's what they do at Skull and Bones, what they do at Bohemian Grove.
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That's what this is all really about.
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And the aliens always throughout history and culture or the deities, the gods, the star
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man, always demand human sacrifice and children.
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Do they?
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History.
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It's all there.
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Yeah, read history.
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So Alex is saying that the Nazi scientists said that they got help from aliens in creating
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their space program, which is part of what Greg Reese's report was about.
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Weird side note, Greg Reese recently quit InfoWars and went on Twitter to accuse Alex
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for working for the Jews and all kinds of other shit.
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So it's wild that Alex is playing his reports again.
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No one ever quits for a good reason.
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If I had to guess, I would say that Reese was getting good numbers with his reports
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on InfoWars and thought that he could go solo, then realized quickly that InfoWars type
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material doesn't really make money organically and having decent numbers on his videos doesn't
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mean shit if he doesn't have a supplement business in order to funnel actual money through.
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So he made nice with Alex and maybe he's getting a little bit of a kickback.
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That'll help.
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I call this the Mark Dice effect because that's exactly what happened with Mark Dice.
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Well, yeah.
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Reese's report is largely based on a quote from German engineer Hermann Oberth, who allegedly
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said, quote, we cannot take all the credit for our record advancements in scientific
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fields alone.
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We have been helped by the people of other worlds.
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The world, the website quote investigator took on this challenge of authenticating the
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quote in 2016, and they were unable to find any evidence that he actually said that.
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In the course of digging into the quote, they found a 1954 article Oberth wrote that does
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indicate that he theorized that UFOs and aliens were real and said, quote, we should try by
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every scientific means that seemed feasible to get into contact with them.
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That phrasing is pretty clear that he wasn't in contact with them, at least in 1954.
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But Alex says that he's read books where these quotes come from.
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You know the history, you got to read the history.
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And the problem there is that there aren't any books that Oberth wrote that say this.
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The quote that Reese is using comes from a 1974 book by Robin Collins called Did Spacemen
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Colonize the Earth?
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Good question.
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Which attributes the words to Oberth, but there's no citation in the book.
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Robin Collins is a lunatic whose other book, Laser Beams from Star Cities, theorizes that
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Asian people are aliens.
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So take their work for how you will.
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That does lower my estimation of them, yeah.
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My general rule is that if you're someone who writes multiple books where the title
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ends in a question mark, you have an uphill battle in terms of me giving you any credibility.
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So though Greg Reese doesn't give a specific citation for this quote, and he couldn't because
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it's fake, just before he throws this quote out in his report, he mentions Oberth's book,
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The Rocket to the Planetary Space, which doesn't include any of these claims of getting
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alien technology from aliens.
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Right.
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Reese introduces this primary source, then makes an unrelated claim, knowing that the
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passive listener will just assume that the primary source he cited backs up that unrelated
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claim.
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It's basically bullshit sleight of hand magic tricks.
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Yeah.
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Not like shooting lightning out of your hand, but like a card trick.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Again, one thing that I did not study, card tricks, because they're not really magic.
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Yeah, they're a prank.
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Yep.
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But sometimes fun, sometimes fun.
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Not fun when you're Greg Reese using it to make bullshit arguments.
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You know, it's a testament, I think truly to cognitive dissonance, that a Nazi could
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be like, I bet aliens wouldn't see us destroying and othering an entire people as perhaps a
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corollary to a relationship that we might have together.
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Right?
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Like they just never occurred to them that maybe aliens would go like, you see the similarities
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here.
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Right, right.
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But see, here's the thing.
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For Alex's purposes, the aliens are bad.
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Sure.
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Nazis are theoretically bad.
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Right.
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Well, in real life bad.
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Yeah.
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But the Nazis, like they were getting this alien tech and the aliens were also kind of
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fucking with them.
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Right.
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You know, like it wasn't an equal relationship between the aliens and the Nazis.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So the aliens are like, hey, check out these assholes.
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They're doing a whole genocide thing.
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Let's fuck with them a bit.
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Or let's make the problem worse.
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Sure.
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You know, the aliens have their own agenda.
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I mean, I think that's the point that I would think if I was a Nazi, I would be like, they
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probably have their own agenda much like we do.
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And this is a critical problem for the imaginary Nazis who are getting alien technology.
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It is a critical problem.
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It's not for Alex though.
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Interesting.
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That fact that they didn't think that through is okay for him.
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Because all of it's made up.
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Probably better for him.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, his contention is that aliens are interdimensional beings.
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Right.
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And thankfully, apparently Tim Pool agrees with him now.
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Great.
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This is a big deal.
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And so I want to start off today with Tim Pool, GOP Congressman and Tim Pool.
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Alex Jones was right about aliens being interdimensional.
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His representative, Eric Burleson, talking about the government whistleblowers that are
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now advising him and what the government and these projects in Space Force and beyond
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were telling him was really going on.
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And when I've sat there and talked to Buzz Aldrin on air off air, when I've sat there
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and talked to top generals, when I've sat there and you talked about all this, they
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go, of course, that's exactly what's going on.
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And so they all understand that until the 90s, they were putting a lot of their money
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into mind power, but they found that it was uncontrollable and all the crazy that got
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involved in it.
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Fictitious.
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Started shifting away from mind power and one step beyond type stuff.
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It was made up to get you all and the surveillance grid because they see that as more automated
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and controlled.
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And then the globalists are mainly going with an anti-human silicon model instead of the
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Uber mentioned model of the Superman model that the Germans have been pushing.
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And so let's go to this Tim Pool clip and we'll come back again into Trump.
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What if, you know, because I think, you know, again, Alex Jones talking about interdimensional
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beings that are sending guidance to elites telling them what to do.
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What if aliens, as you believe them to be, are actually interdimensional?
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And that explains how they're able to travel.
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Vast.
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If it explains what we can't see.
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You know, we don't see other civilizations.
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It explains how we're like, how do you travel a billion light years?
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You don't.
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It's through space time or whatever through dimensions.
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And what if these are not necessarily smarter, but more advanced entities that are controlling
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the flow of our existence for their own ends?
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I don't know what this is supposed to prove.
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Tim Pool and a House member from Missouri who Alex has never heard of before did a podcast
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and they talked about aliens.
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This doesn't strengthen Alex's claims about aliens being interdimensional beings.
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All it does is demonstrate that other people talk the same kind of idiotic shit as Alex.
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All it illustrates is that no one is trying to be taken seriously anymore.
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And there's no consequences for just doing black light beanbag bong circle talk.
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Yep.
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This is very much like a, man, listen, if the angels are actually aliens, then it makes
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sense that the...
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And you're like, oh, God damn it.
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Let's just pick one.
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Pick one and then do a thing.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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If the aliens don't need to eat, then it makes sense why we don't see crops in space.
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What if aliens are interdimensional beings?
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What if?
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Who fucking cares?
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Right.
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And hey, let's have a great time talking about it.
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Sure.
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But let's not let that inform our politics.
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I...
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Because I think that...
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You know...
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I mean, it is interesting to really sit down with the question, like, to what extent does
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your belief in aliens affect your voting on the transportation committee?
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You know?
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Where it's like, it could affect it a great deal, or it could also not affect it at all.
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It should be minimal.
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It should be non-existent, I would argue.
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We should work towards a country where alien considerations are...
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Not important.
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No.
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Nope.
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I'm not even going to put a cent into the hat on the train station.
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So Alex gets around to talking about his prophetic visions.
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Sure.
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And I think that there's a really important new piece of information that comes up in this clip.
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Okay.
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Ever since I was a child, and a lot of people have this phenomenon,
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it's why it's talked about in all cultures in history,
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I would have dreams of things, sometimes innocuous, sometimes serious,
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usually traumatic, that would come true exactly as I saw it.
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I'd have a recurring dream of a dream of a quasi-homeless, deranged drug addict
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with a pink and green striped polo shirt, pinkish purple green shirt,
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and then coming up and attacking me.
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And I had the dream dozens of times.
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And then six months later, I'm at a convenience store with some friends.
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I didn't even have a car yet.
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And we were coming, and this crazy guy on drugs came around and pulled out a knife,
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and probably would have killed me.
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But as soon as I saw him, I knew what to do, because I'd had the dream.
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I was like, oh my God, that's the guy coming.
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So for whatever reason, interdimensionally, I was given that information.
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And then right before they tried to kill Trump and Butler,
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and I came in there and talked about this,
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I kept having these dreams of people showing explosives into a reporter's purse
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that she wouldn't know, getting on Air Force One,
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service to air missiles, shooting down Trump, being brought in.
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They would blame Iran through Mexico to the US.
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Months later, that came out.
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That cover story, they were going to blame Iran for killing Trump.
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Then I was having this.
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And I was just having this recurring dream 10, 15 times, but it was so complex.
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It was always for pieces.
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You had to wake up and remember it all.
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But I knew, oh, this is one of these dreams where you wake up with a headache.
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I don't normally wake up with a headache.
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These things are like, all of them sweating.
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Sometimes I would throw up.
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So we've not heard that Alex's prophetic dreams usually cause these kinds of physical side
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effects like sweating, headache, and vomiting.
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It's pretty interesting, because there's one condition that could explain
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including intense vivid dreams.
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Oh yeah?
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That's alcohol withdrawal.
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Odd.
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So maybe we work this into the differential diagnosis.
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That is possible.
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None of the specifics he's given are even open to critiquing.
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I have no idea if Alex had a dream about a guy in a striped polo shirt,
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or if he had a nightmare after watching a Freddy Krueger movie.
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I have no idea if some guy did try to stab him at a gas station,
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or if he saw someone who kind of looked like a guy in his nightmare,
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and he assumed that that guy was going to stab him.
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Alex is unreliable as a narrator on this kind of shit, so I don't care.
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And then with the Trump stuff, Alex has been saying that Trump was about to get assassinated
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since 2015.
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It's not that he was right in the case of Butler, it's that he wasn't wrong for once.
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In order to give him any credit as a psychic for that,
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you have to explain away all the thousand other times he was wrong.
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Like, if you bet on double zero every time at the roulette table,
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and you lose 50 times in a row, and then you win on spin 51,
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you aren't a psychic.
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Then the other Trump example is the Air Force One blowing up, and that didn't happen.
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There were no missiles or bombs sewed into purses,
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so that supposed prophetic dream that he had,
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it's not even an example of something coming true.
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That's an argument against his dreams having any meaning.
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And what about Gene Hackman?
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I was gonna say.
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Alex is telling a story about how his dreams are prophetic visions from God,
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but conveniently he leaves out the 200 dreams that he had
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about needing to go to Gene Hackman's house.
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How is that not a major part of this?
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I would feel, like to me, I would need to no longer believe I was a psychic.
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Otherwise, I would also have to believe that I murdered Gene Hackman.
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Right.
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Right?
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Like, that's the only possible conclusion that you can reach.
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It would be so deeply traumatic to have 200 prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman,
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and then realize that you resisted the call of God telling you the future.
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It would require, I believe, now, I don't know the kinds of money that Alex is accustomed to,
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but if I were in his position, I would quit.
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I would quit doing this radio show.
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I would focus my energy entirely on these prophecies that I have.
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Sure.
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Because there's something important that I'm missing.
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Right.
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At the very least, you gotta restructure your life.
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Yeah.
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You gotta restructure your life.
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Because whatever it is you are doing, it's not saving Gene Hackman's life,
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and that's pretty much what you were supposed to be doing.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Anybody can do a dumb shit, I read tweets and get mad about them radio show.
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Not everybody can know in advance they need to go save Gene Hackman.
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Yeah.
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Alex has a gift that he's essentially squandering if he believes any of this shit.
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Yeah.
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And that to me is a real problem.
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Yeah.
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When he wants to get on his goddamn soapbox and talk about his magic powers and shit,
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he should really have to own that he killed Gene Hackman.
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I mean, it would either have to...
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Or I would have to be proud of not having saved Gene Hackman's life,
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thus proving that I could have with my psychic powers.
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Well, that's another argument we could take.
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Let's go with the other approach.
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Right.
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And that is that God was giving him these visions to stay away from Gene Hackman's house...
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There we go.
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...and let him die.
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Yeah.
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Listen, I'm killing Gene Hackman for a reason.
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Right.
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I can't have you fucking this up, Alex.
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Yeah.
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So that's why God gave him all those visions.
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That makes sense.
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That's the argument that he needs to take.
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What a God!
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What a weirdo!
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Yeah.
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Works in mysterious ways.
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So I remembered I had one of those dreams and there was a stay away sign.
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So that's why I didn't go talk to Gene.
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You know what's fascinating?
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I find this always...
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This is one of the things that I always find so interesting.
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Liars think that people who tell the truth
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are obsessed with details to prove that they're telling the truth.
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Whereas people who tell the truth generally are like,
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buddy, I don't know what to tell you.
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Yeah.
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That's the shit that happened.
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I'm gonna go on with my life.
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And you know those details.
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Yeah.
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They're often things like,
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it was four in the morning when God woke me up to tell me what time it was.
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Yep.
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And so Alex goes into some of that.
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I had a dream of the tower, smoking it on fire.
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The day it happened, and then I woke up and I was in the showers.
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I'm broadcasting my house to...
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I was already getting ready, but then I went to take a shower out before.
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And I said, get up my underwear, get ready, and then get the shower, get rest.
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And I literally had the TV on and it started.
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And then my show was into 11, but I ran and went on GCN with the morning host immediately.
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But right before Trump got shot, it was in June.
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Um, normally this happens five, six times a year.
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And I don't like clocks in the bedroom with me.
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And I usually put the cell phone turned off in the bathroom.
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And I would wake up, be told, get up and now go look at the clock.
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And I would get up, I'm full story of a lot of folks, but I would get up,
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go turn the phone on and it would say, okay, it's gonna be this time.
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Okay.
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The only reason I'm subjecting you to Alex talking about knowing what time it is in the night,
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again, is because what he said right there, I'm just going to play this little snippet again.
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And it would say, okay, it's going to be this time.
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Alex calls God it.
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Isn't that weird?
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Does that, isn't that just a weird little?
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Well, I mean, it suggests that he's not thinking of it as God so much as a,
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I suppose, infinite force or malevolent force.
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But Alex does believe in the personification.
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Sure.
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Of God.
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Sure.
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Well, I mean, what is, how do you call, what do you call God?
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Like even he was like, I am, he was specifically like, Hey, don't call me a he.
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Right.
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Sure.
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Right.
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Alex doesn't have that problem.
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No, he doesn't really seem to.
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No.
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Again, the Bible seems very uninteresting to him.
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It, it is weird.
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It, it describes a voice in your head.
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It is a depersonalized,
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it is not what you would say about a message that's coming from
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your deity that you have a personal connection with.
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Yeah.
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It is strange.
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Luke wasn't like, Oh, it's speaking to me about using the force.
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He was like, it's OB one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It'd be very strange if he was like, Oh, it, it, this voice is fucking weird.
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Yeah.
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It's strange.
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Yeah.
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So Alex goes on to talk about some more of his prophecies that have been super successful.
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All right.
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Then you saw what happened and they started flipping out really bad at that point.
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And they just department for calling up, you know, the CRO saying he's out of control.
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We want him off the air the other day.
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I said, they're going to kill Trump because obviously they're hearing this and they were
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talking to people on this guy's, we've got a psychic on our hands.
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It's like, this guy's gotta be stopped.
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This is keeps knowing what we're going to do.
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This guy's gotta be stopped.
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And then I started seeing a God.
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Well, you know, God's like, I want you to tell people this stuff because I want them
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to know how real this is.
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I'm like, Oh yeah.
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Well, you see this specifically then tell me stuff.
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So on election night, it was last noticed this cause I forgot like 10 o'clock at night.
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I'm sitting there and I feel the same presence.
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Like somebody standing behind me.
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It's like say that, um, Trump is going to announce his win at one 27.
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And I didn't think to listen and say, okay, what's the time zone?
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And I'm sitting there and Owen's in the other studio and I'm talking to him and I go, I'll
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just cover it this way.
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I should have said, God just told me this.
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You can say, well then maybe Trump hears it does at that time.
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But I have it worked.
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I was getting the message and I get to really quiet place the most eyes with King David
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talked about.
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You've got to really get quiet to hear it and really understand it.
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And I'm sitting there on the air and uh, I go, Oh, what do you think he's going to announce?
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He's one.
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Cause it wasn't clear as one yet.
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And he goes, I think, uh, you know, 11, you know, 39 or whatever.
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And I said, well, I, I say one 27.
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My favorite part of the telling of this story is that he points out that he forgot to ask
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God what time zone.
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Yep.
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That's amazing.
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I didn't think to ask a followup question.
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God, what time zone are you speaking?
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I don't even, I don't even know what to do with that.
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I don't know what to do with that on a, like, in what way do you think your God is, is like
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in charge of everything.
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If at the same time, this God is also like later on going like, ah, shit, I should have
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told him about that.
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The time zones, what am I thinking?
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I'm only God.
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Right, right, man.
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I shouldn't have left that area for ambiguity with Alex's prediction.
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Oh, well, you know what?
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Here's the thing.
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He is too familiar with God.
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I agree.
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Like, I think that there is something that is so unwonderful in terms of like wonder
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about how he's describing these interactions that he has with God.
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No, he's talking to God and God is like, dude, tell the people what I told you.
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And then Alex's response to that isn't yes, God, yes, yes, yes.
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It's give me something juicy.
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Yep.
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Give me something specific.
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Yep.
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He's making demands of God.
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Yep.
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And that to me doesn't align with the hierarchy.
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No, no, everything, every sign points to him working for the devil.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's unfortunate for him.
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There's nothing I can, there's nothing you can say.
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I mean, even his, even his, when he's, yeah, he's, he's the devil.
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He's working for the devil.
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He's a very strong misunderstanding of who is the antagonist and protagonist in various
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stories that are very clear about who's good and bad.
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Almost, almost like somebody deliberately switched what good and bad are at a very young
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age when he was impressionable, perhaps when he was gassed underneath a house.
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Yep.
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Could be possible.
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I would like to ask that.
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That is a question I would like to ask him.
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I think it was like, you say that you were satanic when you were a kid.
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Yeah.
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What does that mean?
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What did you do?
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Yeah.
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I won't hold it against you.
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I'm not trying to get you arrested for killing a cat or something like that, but what did
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you do?
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How did you become satanic?
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What, what does it feel like?
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You'd just like, I listened to metal.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, the problem with hanging out with Satan is that you can never be sure
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you're not still hanging out with Satan.
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Cause that's kind of Satan's bag.
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He's a tricky guy.
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That's the idea behind the whole thing he does.
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It's true.
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Right?
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He's untrustworthy.
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Yeah.
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And to figure out what is a trick of the devil.
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A lot of times you need to focus and it's hard to focus when you're on air.
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Okay.
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And this is a problem that Alex has.
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All right.
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Which is why he should get a crystal ball.
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Hmm.
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You know, the problem is it's hard to be on air and doing all these things and they get
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us in this rat race to feel these things.
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But everybody has these gifts to a certain extent, some more than others.
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And that's why all your philosophers and the Bible, prophets and Christ go to the desert
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for months.
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Totally quiet.
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All the rounds, you can really get the message.
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Yeah.
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And so you talked about the the ball too, or it would take drugs and stare into the
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crystal ball, but it was really just a means to focus attention so that you could really
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experience whatever you're trying to do.
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Absolutely.
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And that's what the Palantir is.
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So yes.
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And so I'm sorry.
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I don't just know they're getting this from bad guys because I get stuff from good guys.
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And that's what I get from it is, is this God is like, we're, you know, we are, it's
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the angels, the watchers.
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And you never in the in the dream, it's not that you don't see them.
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They're like right there.
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And it's like, oh, somebody's there.
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And then you feel like really focuses.
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Everything goes out.
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And you're like, oh, boy.
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Oh, boy, I'm convinced.
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Classic, classic devil talk.
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Classic devil talk.
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The oh, you know, it's us never providing a positive affirmation of who you are.
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That's some devil shit right there.
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It's a little shady.
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Assume things about me.
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That's some devil shit.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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I do think Alex should get a crystal ball.
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I agree.
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I think it would be fun to watch a show where he does hallucinogens and stares at a crystal
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ball and mutters.
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I would watch that probably.
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I would watch, you know how Big Brother when it started had a live stream those 24 hours.
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That is true.
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I would watch Alex tripping out with a crystal ball for 24 hours.
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Weird.
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That's a Twitch stream that I would sub.
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That would be, that would be wild.
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That would be wild.
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We would have to maintain his position there probably through means that he would not enjoy.
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Yeah.
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But it's a compromise.
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What you gonna do?
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Yeah.
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You win some, you lose some.
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We'll make sure that you're rich for the rest of your life.
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Yep.
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But you can never leave this room and you have to stare into a ball.
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Because we need you to.
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We need you.
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You save the world.
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It's God, man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna get a crystal ball for focus.
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Sure.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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For focus purposes.
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For focus purposes.
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For focus purposes.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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So Alex, we know that he has been able to get to that quiet place, that very focused
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place.
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And one of the times that he did, he was eating a chicken fried steak.
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And so of course, Alex brings this up as the time that he signed on to God's military.
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Naturally.
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I mean, it's literally, I had that happen.
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I told the story like 27 years ago.
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The restaurant at night was closing down.
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I was by myself after a long show.
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Wasn't on drugs, no alcohol, nothing.
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It was like, all right, you ready to get commission?
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You want to do this?
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Well, here's the bad stuff.
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The possible futures.
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I'm not, I don't care.
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No, I'm gonna show you this.
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And then it's so much information.
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It does.
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You have it, but it doesn't unlock until the things are happening.
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And then after I basically signed the contract to the military.
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That's how it was basically.
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Everything we do here is just a facsimile of what goes on.
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Sounds true.
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And it was like, okay, now here's the mission.
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And I've been telling people that since then.
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I told them there'd be a great awakening.
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Also the stuff that happened and all this stuff.
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And this is real.
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So if I'm getting this information from the good guys,
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I'm saying is the bad guys in their own writing say they're getting it.
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Aleister Crowley, all of them are getting their plan.
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And so, but the devil doesn't just have his plan.
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God's got his plan for us.
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Or what if you're all wrong?
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I don't think that's possible with the characters involved as they are portrayed.
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Creepy weirdo, Aleister Crowley and a drunk idiot, Alex Jones.
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How could they both be wrong?
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It's possible they could both be wrong.
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It's possible, but I don't know.
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I don't know how.
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With the two of them corroborating each other's story.
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That's a alibi you can trust.
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Yeah, take that shit to the bank.
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Or the chicken fried steak restaurant where God commissions you to his army.
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I would posit that perhaps maybe one of the big reasons that a lot of the holy men in
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the Bible went to the desert was also proximity to the desert.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, like that's crucial.
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The desert was right there.
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It was available.
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Yeah.
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There are no desert.
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I could not go to the desert at any point in time without some effort.
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See, but that's the thing.
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I think you're getting too insular about this.
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I think that if you could go a little ways outside of Chicago and probably find some woods.
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Sure.
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Some woods.
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That's what I'm saying.
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And I think that would be good enough.
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I think that Alex would accept that as like the metaphorical going to the desert.
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Okay.
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So setting is not necessarily what we're talking about.
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We're talking about the isolation element.
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Yes.
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Gotcha.
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The desert was just...
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It's because...
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It's like a crystal ball.
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It's about organizing the energies.
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It's about focus.
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Yep.
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I need to go to the desert.
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You gotta go to the desert with a crystal ball.
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Get really fucking focused.
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Get fucking focused, man!
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As focused as a human can be.
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Oh, I'm so thirsty.
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So I'm thirsty for Chase because he's been being very passive this episode.
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I've noticed.
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He's sort of laying back and letting Alex say his dumb shit.
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Yep.
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And so when he gets involved, Alex is like, what do you got on your plate, Chase?
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He says something that I think is one of the more fascinating accidental revelations he's made.
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Okay.
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And I'm sure this has happened to you hundreds of times over the course of your career,
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where you're just kind of sitting quietly pondering the news, what's going on,
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and there have been maybe five or six crazy things that have happened over the last couple of weeks,
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and you're pondering them all.
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They're all loading simultaneously, and then it clicks, and you see how they're all connected.
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But you don't have the details.
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It's a theory at that point.
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And then when you go and you look and you do the research, you see that all the pieces that you put
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together, it's actually...
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You can find the instruction manual somewhere else to confirm that this is actually the puzzle.
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This is the picture that's being put out.
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And so it's really interesting for Chase to describe how his thought process works,
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because what he's describing is essentially how you get trapped in motivated thinking.
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He exists within the InfoWars structure, which is a deeply conspiratorial space.
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That is to say that nothing can be explained away by coincidence unless it's absolutely necessary.
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If you need to get Trump off the hook for something, maybe you can say it's a coincidence.
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But other than that, things that are happening in the world are happening because the globalists
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plotted them to happen that way.
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And if you're smart enough, you can make connections between everything to decipher their code,
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and if you get good at that, you can tell the future.
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Because this is Chase's paradigm, those connections between stories and events must exist.
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If they appear not to exist, it's because he hasn't worked hard enough on finding the connection,
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so to accept the explanation that something is unrelated to something else
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is essentially the same as admitting failure.
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So Chase sees a bunch of news stories that are possibly connected in the real world,
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or they might not be.
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For Chase, they have to be connected, so his brain forms connections between these stories.
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He fills in some blanks and comes up with a storyline that lets him explain how story A
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is really about story B, which is being caused by story C.
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The stuff that he uses to fill those blanks in and form those connections between stories
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is what I'm going to choose to call InfoWars caulk.
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The larger mythology of InfoWars conspiracy is what gives that caulk its binding power.
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So once Chase has introduced this caulk to bind together these unrelated stories,
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that caulk becomes more important than the individual data points themselves.
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You can have three different stories and then connect them with a simple adhesive
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of saying the globalists did it, and now you don't have three stories and a theory,
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you have one story and one explanation.
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This might seem like a small point, but it makes a difference in how these next steps play out.
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Now, when Chase is going to go seek out more information,
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he's looking specifically for things that prop up the explanation that he's come to.
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He's no longer looking for better understanding of those three underlying stories,
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he's looking to defend his use of InfoWars caulk to bind the whole thing together into one story.
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At the core, it's very easy to do,
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mostly because you're just making stuff up and then telling a story about what you imagine all
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of it means.
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It's also very sloppy and it gets a bad result, which is why these folks like Chase are
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essentially unemployable by anyone who has a more rigorous process than InfoWars.
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He just let us in.
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He gave us a big window here of,
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I find connections, theorize how they can possibly, all these stories could be connected,
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and then later I go out looking for information and what do you know?
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It confirms the theory that I came up with in order to force a connection between these stories.
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So that's fascinating.
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Well, I mean, what interests me is what would happen if he didn't find anything?
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Would he abandon the belief or simply persist regardless?
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Hmm.
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No, I think if he didn't find a connection, there would magically be one.
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That's the interesting thing to me there, is that whether or not there is motivated
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reasoning here, does it even matter what he's looking for?
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Or is this a man who simply figures out something and chooses to believe he's the first person
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who thought of it, regardless of whether or not he is?
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Well, his job and his place at InfoWars really depend on that connection being made.
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Right.
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And so I don't think there would ever be a situation where you could present him with
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like three or four news stories and they wouldn't be connected.
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Right.
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You'd find it.
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Right.
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What I...
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And then you have to think that because there's so many fucking people, all of whom are experiencing
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some variance of the same reality you are, somebody else has made some sort of dumb connection
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like this before, and you're going to find it and go like, see, I'm not alone.
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Yeah.
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That's someone's substack.
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Yep.
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There you go.
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So here is a playing out of exactly what Chase described in that clip.
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He goes on to discuss some stories that he has decided are connected.
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Okay.
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When I saw the nuclear stuff from Trump, and it's in the context of the Golden Dome thing
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the other day, and it's in the context of the fact that Elon Musk and Sam Altman were
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in Saudi Arabia for this economic deal for $600 billion to estimates as high as a trillion
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dollars, I'm like, oh my God, it seems to me that what they're doing with this AI arms
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race, they know that it's going to demand a tremendous amount of electricity.
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And China is going to wonder, our opponents, our enemies are going to wonder how the hell
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are they powering these facilities for this computation?
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Because we know their existing grid can't handle it.
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It's got to be off grid in case there's some EMP or cyber attack, but how are they powering
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it?
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And so you have to have a front for it.
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You have to say, all right, we have this new nuclear technology, these isolated nuclear
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reactors that we're going to put on site to do it.
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And you can't see on the military base.
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You can't see them.
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And I'm thinking to myself, all right, well, we've got this star.
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That's exactly how it all works.
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We got this star like a red trails, the secret project.
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Yeah, we have this star link array.
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And I'm like, I wonder if there's a way for us to wirelessly using Tesla technology, not
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Tesla like Elon Musk Tesla, but Nikola Tesla technology, transmit technology from space
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to the earth.
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And obviously, people have been talking about this for many years.
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I didn't realize that really until very recently because I just started looking into it for
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the first time.
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I'm not an astrophysicist or an engineer by any means.
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So I look into this and I see that, oh, SpaceX has been doing study after study.
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There have been article after article that we've been kind of missing of SpaceX's space
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based solar power revolutionizing Earth's energy future.
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And they've been sending up these solar transmitters that pick up solar energy in space and then
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through microwaves, send them down to rectennas on the surface to wirelessly provide energy
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that's estimated to be able to power a million homes per segment of this array.
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I see that Japan's looking into it.
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China's looking into it.
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And then I see that SpaceX has already been involved in these studies with this technology.
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I think to myself, all right, we've got the golden dome, which is supposed to be a defense
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array around the planet.
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And they say about these microwave energy transmissions to the planet, you can immediately
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convert them into directed energy weapons.
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So you can either use it to send it to a rectenna to pick up the solar power and then power
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houses.
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Which is what globalists and all planners.
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Or you can beam it down.
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They always love multi-use things.
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Like Doppler radar is really for weather control.
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Watch 10.9.
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Doesn't everybody love multi-use things?
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They can also tell you about the weather.
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Right.
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And just like with nuclear reactors, oh, we need nuclear energy.
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But it's really part of the military industrial complex as well.
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Either Iran or Russia, what was happening during the Cold War, they would use nuclear
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energy as justification to develop nuclear weapons.
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And I agree.
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And it's really good that Trump's come out with all this because we know it's real.
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He's come out with all this.
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So what has he come out with exactly?
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So let's chop this up a little.
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All right.
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The first data point that Chase is starting from is Trump signing some executive orders
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to push the development of nuclear energy sources in the United States.
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The second is Trump wanting to build a golden dome space-based missile defense system for
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the United States.
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The third is Elon Musk and Sam Altman being in Saudi Arabia with Trump for his visit with
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MBS.
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So Chase puts these stories together and the narrative that comes to him is that there's
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an AI arms race that's going to require a ton of energy.
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So far so good.
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That kind of has a connection to Sam Altman and Elon Musk being over there for this talk
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between Saudi Arabia and the United States, whatever.
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The amount of energy is going to become a vulnerability that China could exploit, though,
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because they're doing something like attacking our grid with an EMP.
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They could take out the power sources that we're using for this AI arms race.
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So we can't build the energy infrastructure to handle the AI arms race on the conventional
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grid where it could be attacked.
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We're getting speculative now.
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Sure.
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Chase is getting into speculation.
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All right.
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In order to hide the energy that we're going to use to create the AI stuff, Trump is making
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moves to boost our nuclear energy.
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So now the plan is that we're going to make all these nuclear reactors on military bases
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so they're safe from attack and we'll say that they're being used for the golden dome
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missile defense system, but they're secretly for AI.
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The golden dome thing is a cover story that Trump is using in order to not show his hand
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about using these nuclear reactors in order to power the AI.
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Okay.
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There's an explanation that Chase has talked himself into by demanding that all of these
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stories that he sees must be connected.
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From this point, he tries to explore how he can expand this explanation.
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So he looks at Starlink and Tesla technology, but instead of relating what he finds to the
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original stories, he relates them to the synthesis of the stories that he created into forcing
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them by forcing them to be connected.
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Sure.
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This is a fine thought process for a bong circle or a writer's room in a sitcom, but
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it's not a process that generally leads to truth.
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It's very bad for truth preservation because each step along the way, as his mind is adding
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new layers onto things, more and more stuff is just from his imagination that he's added
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into the story.
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And at a certain point, those things from his imagination become load bearing.
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Sure.
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They become essential to keeping these plates spinning in the air.
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And that's not good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I imagine that it's not possible to give him three of anything though.
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You know what I mean?
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Like it doesn't matter what three things.
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Three will always be one.
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He will always come up with like, ah, see, here's how these things are related.
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Probably.
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And how much of that is just like the nature of how he works and how much is just like,
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this is obviously the game that Info Wars plays.
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I'm going to fit in as best as I can with this machine.
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Yeah.
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Who knows?
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And it doesn't matter.
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But Alex needs to be drunk because he should be interrupting this dork so much more.
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Yeah.
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Like this dynamic is off.
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No.
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Chase can't talk for this long.
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No, it's gotta be an interruption specifically in the middle of him trying to get out what
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he really wanted to say.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Chase can't, let me tell you about being a man.
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Exactly.
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Like we need that.
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Right in the middle of him being like, see, so it's AI that's giving the, just shut up.
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We gotta go find somebody.
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There has to be like, there's an essential element of Alex that he is not into
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how nerdy Chase is.
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Yeah.
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And I know it's there.
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He's sober, so he's suppressing it and not lashing out.
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Yeah.
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But I don't like it not being expressed.
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Yeah.
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Cause it is, there's something about the way that he does it too, which is that kind of
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self-loathing, like, I'm not a nerd.
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I'm a massive nerd.
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I'm a bully.
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And so he's like, Chase is saying similar things to what he said five minutes ago.
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And he's like, you're stupid you asshole.
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Yeah.
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There's something off.
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Yeah.
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So there's this AI arms race.
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Sure.
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We've established all of this stuff through Chase's fantasy.
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Right.
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Some of it may have some connection to one of the three or four stories that he's connected
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into one.
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Some of it may.
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So it's not all fantasy, but a lot of it is fantasy.
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Sure.
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And it gets expanded into the Saudi Arabia meeting that Trump had here.
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That's the deal that's been made.
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And that's why this isn't just a trade deal.
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This is about a new Alliance.
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And real quick, the context of this is the deal that's been made is that Saudi Arabia
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has to side with the United States over China in exchange for unlimited power.
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And we've won so far.
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I mean, and again, the corporate media though, the globalists, the BlackRock, they won't
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say that that's why they made America, not John Wayne and freedom and Marilyn Monroe.
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They made it on and almost Presley and the founding fathers and all the, they made it
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transgenderism and Satan worship pedophilia to make the world turn against us.
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All that USA stuff was meant to make the world, oh, we don't want America.
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It's a warmonger and it's satanic.
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Show that they would adopt the leftist globalist model that they want to take the planet over
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with.
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But instead we're now promoting Americana worldwide and everybody wants a piece of it
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again.
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Absolutely.
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And if you look closely, I don't know if I had a plan called 1776 worldwide, but actually
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do that.
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If you look closely at the video of the crown prince taking Trump to the airport to leave
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after that deal, he's almost in tears.
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I, and it's hard for a layman or somebody who hasn't really looked in the details of
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what's going on to understand.
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I mean, I understand it's, it's nice and it's, it's an honor for the president of the United
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States to visit Saudi Arabia.
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Why is this guy so weepy?
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This crown prince, why is he literally on the verge of tears about this meeting?
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It's because it's so existential.
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Crown prince understood that Trump understands.
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And I knew this was happening.
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It's what Trump's already telling us, but way more.
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They were ready to bet on everything and the deals already been made.
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And again, the old Saudis, uh, did try to do a coup.
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They ran a Vegas attack and Trump went in there with, with that fashion, the crown prince
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had killed him.
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Yeah.
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And it was never even hit the notice.
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I was like, Oh, well, some people disappeared, you know, but that, that's what happened.
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And then the old, and then they basically just, that's why Trump said for a thousand
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years, you know, you guys are smart.
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You invented a lot of stuff, mathematics, all this stuff that you, for a thousand years,
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you showed nothing but problems, you know, come up crusades and all that.
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That's all going to stop now.
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And what it really is, that's why he came out and said, women, you know, don't wear
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burkas.
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All that is the very place where the, where the Mohammed thing comes from.
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Basically, at least if this continues on is like actually saying, yeah, we actually want
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the global peace deal for real, because they can understand this warfare goes on and the
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Christians, the Muslims were all going to kill each other.
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And that's what Trump's going around saying.
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We have free energy.
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We can blow up the whole solar system right now.
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We got anti-matter.
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We got anti-matter.
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We got anti-matter weapons.
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Stop it.
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Stop it.
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So the fantasy scenario that Alex and Chase are talking about is that Trump has started
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telling the world that they're either on our side or on China's side because we have free
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energy and the whole worldwide economy that relies on oil is about to blow up.
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It's going to be gone because we have free energy.
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Sounds true.
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The US and China are the two countries that have or could have access to this magic technology.
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So everyone has to pick a side and Trump has got Saudi Arabia on his side by convincing
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them that China hates Muslims, although Alex also seems to hate Muslims.
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I mean.
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I don't know.
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That whole Mohammed thing.
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It makes perfect sense.
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They're now going to be on Trump's side and in exchange, he's going to give them free
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unlimited energy machines in order to replace their reliance on oil, which is the source
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of a lot of their international and domestic power.
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This is all nonsense, but if we imagine it's true, then Alex and Chase are saying that
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Trump is giving the Saudi government access to this magic free energy, which they can
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then restrict in ways that maintain their grasp on power.
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That's largely tied up in oil and money that's made from oil.
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This isn't about giving people access to technology and freeing the world.
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It's about negotiating with a tyrant about how to preserve their tyranny in the context
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of new technologies.
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This is literally a large part of what Alex complains about the globalists doing in his
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book, The Great Reset.
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It's very ironic to hear him take this kind of approach.
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Yeah.
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I don't believe any of this is true, but even in the storytelling narrative framework that
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he's telling it in, it's contradictory to what he is supposed to care about.
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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You know, I'm listening to his explanation and I'm thinking you can't give some people
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lightning without the next couple of days them being like, okay, so Zeus turns into
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a swan and rapes a lady, right?
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This is just not good.
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That's not good.
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No.
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You should not have global politics available for people who would be like, okay, so my
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god of lightning turns into a swan.
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You know, like, you know, we can't have that.
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Yeah.
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And I think that the more and more you hear Alex talk, especially in a setting like this,
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it's like, I just cannot imagine who is enticed by this anymore.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't know what the market is other than him holding on to the people who are
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just committed already.
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There's like, I'm in.
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Yep.
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Fuck it.
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I can't imagine this convincing new initiates.
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Yeah.
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Quite frankly.
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I don't know how you can be here and not feel so tired.
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Like, even if you're still in with Alex, even if you're still in, you've got to be like,
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I am so exhausted by what is happening.
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Yeah.
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Because a lot of those words don't really make sense.
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They don't make any sense.
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And then they're right next to each other very quickly.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's the problem.
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You put them right next to each other.
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That's no good.
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No.
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You can put them in different sentences away from each other.
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But don't.
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So here's where Chase really earns his paycheck.
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Okay.
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By doing two things in his flip.
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One, he's like, Alex, get esoteric for me, baby.
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Sure.
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And then he also asks an amazing question that Alex can't answer.
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That sounds right.
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Some of my favorite moments of your career that I've seen have been when other people
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have interviewed you and you've talked about some of the more esoteric stuff, because on
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the news, you're so focused on covering the hard-hitting 30,000 foot stuff to give people
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the useful information of what's practically going on.
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What?
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I mean, it's powerful and important.
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But then when you're on podcasts with other people, you have a little bit more of the
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esoteric conversation.
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I'm curious as to how this translates to the UAP stuff and the interdimensional stuff
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that's going on with this technology.
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I mean, it's almost like the book of Enoch, where you have the watchers that come down
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and they give secret technology and it eradicates humanity.
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Because the real debate is whether or not this technocracy, even if we wield it, is
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in and of itself a ring of power that will corrupt us, even if we have good intentions.
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So it's like this populist move to claim this technology through the Musks and the Trumps
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and others.
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And then there's the globalist move to hijack it.
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But is it, I mean, do both paths lead to the same end for humanity?
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Or is there a way to wield this type of power, knowledge, and technology without totally
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crucifying the planet?
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Well, that's really the big question, is whether Atlantis is existed or not.
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That story's being recreated now, where they have this great technology, free energy, but
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it explodes and blows up their continent and then knocks civilization back.
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And all the cultures talked about it.
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So I mean, a lot of that's gone on.
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The history we've been given is not accurate, obviously.
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You think the media lies, you think the current news is a bunch of bull.
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Imagine history.
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Boy, you're stupid.
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So this is a great question.
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It really is.
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For Chase, it's a thoughtful question.
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Yeah.
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And it is, we have created these magical abilities and shit.
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And we are invested in getting those things into the hands of people like Elon Musk and
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Trump.
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We support them.
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But is this inherently corrupting?
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Is it possible for someone to wield these things for good?
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Fascinating question.
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Coulda, obviously.
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Of course.
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We're not going to get an answer from Alex.
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Woulda?
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Maybe.
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Maybe not.
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Shoulda?
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No.
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Just the answer's no.
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The answer's no, Chase.
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The answer's no.
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It allows for a little bit, you can see a little bit of attempted introspection on Chase's
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part.
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No, I like it.
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It's an interesting question that if Alex were drunk or if he wasn't himself, you might
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get a good answer too.
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It might be a good interview question in another setting, but it's just not here.
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He can't answer yes or no without getting into a kind of box that he doesn't want to
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be in.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No.
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It's a bad question if you are a person who understands who Alex truly is.
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It is a great question if you are a person who has somehow deluded themselves so far
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into believing that asking this question is a good idea.
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Yeah, which implies that either Chase is trying to destroy the ship from inside or he's so
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dumb that he believes the fake version of Alex is real.
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And I believe that's possible.
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He might actually believe that Alex is not a farce.
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It's hard to imagine, but it's not impossible to imagine.
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Yeah.
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A paycheck when you're incompetent is pretty enticing.
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I make you believe a lot of dumb shit.
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There are not a lot of jobs that he is qualified for.
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At least not on air.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So instead of addressing the question, which is interesting, Alex starts talking about
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Atlantis and then he...
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Which is not interesting.
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He gets lost.
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Okay.
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And we all epigenetically have these memories.
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We see Star Wars, all this stuff.
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It's like, oh, it seems like we're home.
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It's nostalgic.
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It's nostalgic.
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Almost like we heard...
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Yeah, it's an old story in 7 New World.
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Yeah, well, you just think we're just here.
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I mean, come on.
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So I think this is a home.
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I think this is where people came from.
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Come on, folks.
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We are the aliens.
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And then just like you take a pig from a farm and in six months you dump it out in the woods,
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it's got tusks and big long hair on it.
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And so...
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What?
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...up there, you know, and people can choose different paths and all the stuff.
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And what do you think people look like?
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You know, we lose this wildness and turn into what we think, you know,
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these ideas we've seen of these aliens.
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Those aren't aliens.
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Those are breakaway civilizations of humans that are off doing all this other stuff.
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And they made bad decisions.
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So the Bible's telling us, this is the demons.
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These are the bad guys.
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This is people that, you know, already blew the Earth up once and went off and turned into this.
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And they're like beaming their interdimensional program to get us because they don't want us
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to emerge and have a different plan.
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So this is our chance to do it again, which is what I pick up.
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Okay.
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So that's what you pick up.
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How is that what you pick up?
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Well, Alex is insane.
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That makes sense.
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Yeah.
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That's why he picks that up.
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That that's pretty much the only way I can think of to pick that up.
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Yes.
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I cannot pick that up in any other manner.
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So if you put a pig into the woods, it'll grow tusks in six months.
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Obviously.
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And that's just like humans.
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Like if you were on Mars, you would turn into a little gray guy running around with the fun
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long fingers and stuff.
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You know, it would happen in like six months.
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I see what you're saying.
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So all of these aliens that we have and we think we've seen, you know, spider beings,
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all the mercantile dogs, all of these folks, they are just humans that broke away.
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They're breakaway civilizations.
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They went into space six months later, they're dogs.
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Makes sense.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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Now they have made some bad decisions.
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So she didn't work out for these breakaway civilizations.
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And they're mad about that.
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And so they're sending psychic messages to the Earth people and coming through interdimensional
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portals and fucking with people in order to try and spitefully get us to destroy ourselves.
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That makes sense.
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Because they don't want us to go to space and become dogs.
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Right.
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Right?
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They're demons.
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It makes sense.
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When you put it that way, I can think of no other logical explanation.
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Yeah.
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It is what it is.
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Okay.
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I find it fundamentally weird to believe wholeheartedly in a god of goodness.
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And also that that god has purposefully misled you about the universe being filled with a
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bunch of people.
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Well, it's my man.
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It's the riddle of free will.
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I don't think it is in this regard.
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I think in this regard, God's just fucking with you.
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Like, you believe as a virtue of what you believe, your god is like fucking with you.
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And just like, check this out.
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Why?
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There's aliens.
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But that's not God fucking with us.
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That's us fucking with ourselves.
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I mean, the more you talk, the more sane you sound.
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I think I come from a place where I love this kind of idea.
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Yes.
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Not from Alex.
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Right.
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I could sit around to talk to someone all day about how aliens are humans that left
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Earth and then evolved in some way to suit their...
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I'll talk to you about that.
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Time and space are crazy, man.
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I don't want to talk about that with a white identity extremist.
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Yeah.
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Because I know that behind it is some politics that are real bad.
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And those politics are much more important than whether or not aliens are adaptable.
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I say this.
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The more I think about it, the more comforted I am that we do not have control over space
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and time, because I think that if white nationalists had control over space and time, things would
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work out very differently.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Like if Nazis actually were getting alien stuff and collaborating with them.
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Yeah.
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Sure, we worked out a little different.
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We wouldn't be living here.
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Right?
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We would be living in a different world.
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But some of us are.
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The ones that went away, that broke away and are now trying to convince you to destroy
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the world because they don't want you to have a plan.
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God damn it.
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They're mad for no reason.
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All right.
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And that's what the Palantir is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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From Lord of the Rings.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So I just think Alex is so fucking insane.
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And it's just, it hits different when he's not drunk.
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Yeah.
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So this is our chance to do it again.
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It's just what I pick up.
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And that's basically, I mean, when I get this information, it's so intense.
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And a lot of stuff I've seen shown is never before been seen.
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And anything new you come up with obviously would be fabulously successful and create
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a whole new franchise.
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Certain things, when I'm giving the information, that's...
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Franchise?
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...you understand it.
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But I'm like, but you're not going to talk about it.
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And then as a test, I even before, not to break the confidence, tried to say it.
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And my brain doesn't remember it.
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Well, not when I tried to.
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It's like, it's like locked in.
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Firewall.
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It's only to process other information.
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You made it up.
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Understand in different civilizations and things that we're all given free will.
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There's been countless civilizations that make the wrong choice and destroy themselves
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or choose to get on a dark path.
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And then they turn into their own thing and always try to create their own universe and
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then run off and build it.
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And then I've been able to look into those and not pretty.
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It's not pretty.
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It's bad news.
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But no, when people try to do that, try to create their own thing, and then it becomes
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hell.
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It's bad news.
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Alex has seen it.
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He's peered into things.
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He could write these things down and they'd be amazing sci-fi franchises, but God doesn't
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let them.
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God won't let him.
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There's a firewall up.
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He sees all this amazing stuff that could just be perfect, but his brain magically forgets
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it unless it's what God wants him to use it for, like telling what time it is in the middle
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of the night or predicting a variable time zone when Trump will announce.
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Nobody can know the time zones.
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That's just unknown.
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That's ineffable.
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That is truly ineffable.
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That's past the firewall.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So dumb.
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So dumb.
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I think what makes it good when he's drunk is that we can assume because of the lowering
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of inhibitions, this is something that he does not necessarily want to tell us.
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Yeah.
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This is something that it feels like he does want to tell us.
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And I do not want to hear anything he wants to tell me about this.
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I want to hear only the things that he is probably ashamed to believe himself.
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Yeah.
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There's a social contract when he's like the drunk at the bar who's going on about something
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and you just sort of smile and like, all right, another round for the old timer or whatever.
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Let's hear it.
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Let's hear the wild shit you've got to say while you're drunk.
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That's fine.
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Yeah.
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Tomorrow we'll all just go back to work and you'll be just another guy.
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When you're sober and you've done a thousand crunches, I don't want to hear about Breakaway
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Civilizations and how you've peeked into other worlds and you could totally write it down
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and you'd be the most famous sci-fi franchise of all time, but God won't let you.
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I don't want to hear this shit.
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Just do drugs.
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Yeah.
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Just do drugs.
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Yeah.
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If you are sober and saying these things, you got to go.
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Yeah.
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You got to go.
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Just stop.
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Yeah.
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Just stop.
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Chase asks about the government doing DMT drips on people, which Alex, of course, very
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famously talked about on Rogan.
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Yeah.
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And then I think he makes Alex uncomfortable.
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I had movies in the 80s.
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What do they seek to gain from that though?
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Well, I mean, I guess God decides when to reach out to you and how.
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And then, but there's bad things and for whatever reason, there's different ways to connect
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to them and the veil gets lifted because obviously your eyes are picking up a lot more, but your
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brain filters it out because it'd be too much to see.
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And so that's what's happening when you're taking those hallucinogens is the third dimensional
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veil to the Bible lifts the veil and you can then see what else is going on.
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Well, there's even speculation that the burning bush for Moses was a sprig of Acacia, which
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is known to be a hallucinogenic property plant.
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So a lot of people think that the bush was burning and he had this vision because of
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some of the properties of the actual bush.
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Look, all I know is I get told stuff that comes true.
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Look, man, look, man, I don't know about that bush.
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I'm not interrogating you.
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Maybe that bush was drugs, but not me.
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I'm real.
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I'm for real.
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I'm just pointing out a theory.
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I did.
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I don't know why you got very defensive.
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I don't need to do drugs to see things.
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I feel like maybe you should do drugs.
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Stare at the crystal ball.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, I like that.
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I like that reaction a whole lot.
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It's very funny.
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Hey, man, I don't know what to tell you, which is so funny because this is like him.
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Oh, my God.
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Well, because he's in the whole part of the conversation is about like they do DMT drips
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because hallucinogens lift the veil and allow you to see more of the universe than you normally
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see.
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Right.
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But not me.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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My gift is my gift.
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Right.
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Yeah, it is.
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It is like a weird like little thing of like, no, you can't have it be the burning bush
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because that's got to be God.
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It can't just be drugs.
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Bad people use drugs to simulate what God does for free.
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Now you have to pay for it by doing the things that I tell.
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Oh, wait, no, that's slavery.
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Now you have to sign a contract, an interdimensional contract.
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I think I work for the devil.
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I think I work for the devil.
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Shit.
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I got deviled again.
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Now let me ask you.
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Yeah.
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Would you ever believe that Paul Atreides could work for the devil?
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Yes.
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I mean, that's the subtext is essentially he might be the devil.
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Oh, that's interesting.
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Yeah.
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You can also see possible futures and God's telling you that to go and change it.
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And so...
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Kill Gene Hackman.
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Like in Dune, I see a thousand possible futures, but there is a narrow way.
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There's the one outcome that could be victorious.
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Yeah, but it's, it's, I mean, look, all I know is, is that is that the bad guys do not
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like what Trump's doing.
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And then the other people, you know, who I like a lot, you know, who mean well, like
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David, he's like, well, they're still pushing AI and they're still, they're blowing up the
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old system to bring in the new.
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And, you know, this is really the big deception.
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And of course there's people in all those camps that are just opportunistic and want
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power and just want to build it and they want to be in control of it.
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Okay.
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So they can dominate and, you know, because they're scared of others having it.
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I can't judge Elon or Trump or any of that.
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I just know how do you defend the old thing that didn't even want us to even know about
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it and deploy all of it to be anti-human and cut off energy instead of give us the free
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energy.
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I like the idea of like, uh, uh, Chase quoting Dune and then Alex being like, ah, more of
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a Harkonnen guy.
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Yeah.
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I'm more of a Baron.
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You know, I think they did him dirty.
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I think they really fucked him up whenever I, uh, well, you know, he was probably the
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bad guy.
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No.
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What?
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I think he was.
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I think whenever he said old fashioned artillery, he was talking about the rampant murder of
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a bunch of people.
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Mm hmm.
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Right.
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That's genocide of folk.
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Oh man.
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I don't think he, I don't think he's one of the, I mean, at least, at least Darth Vader
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is still a good guy.
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He's cool.
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Okay, good.
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So this, what happened here in this clip, the way that Alan's changed the subject, I
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think is important because what you're hearing is rationalization.
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Mm hmm.
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David Icke is a lunatic and he's wrong about a ton of shit, but he had the correct conspiracy
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position to oppose Elon Musk.
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It was very advantageous for Alex and people in his world to support Musk in terms of getting
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their Twitter accounts back.
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But it came at the expense of having to support a guy who's literally doing all of the things
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Alex has claimed to oppose for years.
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David Icke made the right choice on this one and he doesn't have to rationalize this kind
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of shit, but Alex does.
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And it's embarrassing.
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He's trying to lesser of two evils a conversation where one side is the literal devil.
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It's pretty hard to ever accept any criticisms of Trump and Musk when the basis for your
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support for them is they're not the devil.
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This is essentially a parody level of the way that the Democratic Party has operated
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in the time since 2016, where anyone is better than Trump.
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As long as the candidate is better than the obviously horrible things that Trump or the
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GOP would entail, that candidate needs to be supported because the alternative is Trump.
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It's a bind that we've gotten ourselves into where we don't aspire for what's possible
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and good, but we're just trying to avoid the negative and we're over compromising.
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Alex is doing the same thing, but with the devil.
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As long as Trump and Elon Musk are slightly better than the devil, then he has no reason
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to judge them.
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And to be clear, that's not what Alex believes.
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This is just the public-facing version of his thinking.
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In reality, he supports a white-identity-oriented state that upholds the social hierarchies
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that all coincidentally put the classes that Alex is a part of at the top.
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Trump and Elon are political avatars of that white-identity-oriented state that Alex wants
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to bring into being, so they get a pass because I guess they're not as bad as the literal
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devil that Alex imagines that he's fighting.
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And that's sad.
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That's, um...
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He knows that he's giving Elon and Trump a pass.
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You can hear the rationalization for why, like,
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I can't judge them because the other thing is really bad.
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No, you can judge.
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You're supposed to.
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You're the guy who's supposed to see past sacred cows.
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The name of your old company.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, they're saying of it out loud, which is,
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hey man, at the end of the day, the bad guys don't like them.
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That means they're the good guys.
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Is like a complete abdication of any sense of real thought.
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I like these people.
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These people are good.
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The end.
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So anybody who's not these people or is in opposition to those people is bad.
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It doesn't matter what either of them do.
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I am on this team.
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Yeah, and when a lot of the time the people you do like are determined by people you don't
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like not liking them, you end up in a real fucking messy situation when it's time to
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not like the people that your enemies also don't like.
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And that's the bind that Alex has got himself into.
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And it's really sad.
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And it carries on into this next clip where they're talking about, like, hey, you can't
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throw stones, you know, but you can throw some stones.
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No.
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Just don't throw stones at Elon Musk.
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Don't do that.
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What?
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It's a lot safer for people now to fight tyranny because in the beginning a patriot's
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scarce man hated, feared, scorned.
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In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, hated, feared and scorned.
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The town was called succeeds the Timbukjian because then it caused him to be a patriot,
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Mark Twain.
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And so that's where we are.
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Saw during the last election as well with all the people that were traditionally technocratic
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globalists just coming over and switching teams.
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Musk was really an example of somebody who did it before it was cool.
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So it comes off to me as more authentic.
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You see the Zuckerberg's kind of crawling in and the Bezos is trying to crawl in and
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say nice things to drop and, you know, in the Sam Altman's and others.
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Well, that's because they're really just followers in the system.
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Yeah.
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And they could see we were winning.
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Musk came on earlier than that because his brother almost got killed from the shot.
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He almost had a heart attack from it and they took his son and cut his wiener off.
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I'm sorry to say that.
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I'm not trying to lessen it.
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But I think they did chemically release him, turn him against him.
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I mean, they tried that one.
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But I don't know, they had one of my kids got messed with.
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They never got into it, but they got him.
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You know, it's dangerous out there.
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Yeah.
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And and so that'll piss somebody off and see that the 15 children, he loves life.
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And the event, even Joe was the one we thought very Christian.
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He didn't say he was, but he's practicing, you know, he's practicing actually creating
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humans and promoting.
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Yeah.
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When Hillary and all of them are saying get rid of people.
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So well, it's not very Christian to throw stones either.
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And I think about that all the time.
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I'm not going to judge him because, oh, it's promiscuous or whatever.
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I mean, everybody's got their own sins, their own.
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Well, King David had his best friend killed because he lost it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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He genuinely was hilarious.
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But I do throw stones when it comes to the globalists because I sin.
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But I don't sin like that.
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I don't sin like that.
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So that's fun.
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I don't think Jesus would be thrilled.
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Y'all, y'all got to read the just the book is there.
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There it's you can open it.
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No throwing stones at Musk.
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We got to be really tolerant and understanding.
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It's very unchristian for us to judge.
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Now I'll throw totally the opposite of the point.
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I'll throw fucking stones all day.
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No, I don't like.
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No, the guy was specific.
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It was like really important that you didn't do specifically that.
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He would because it's okay.
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So it's easy to not throw stones at the people you like.
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The adulterer.
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Right.
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I'm with you.
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I don't sin like that.
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I'm throwing a stone.
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Right.
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Right.
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I understand.
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No, no, no, no.
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I understand.
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I understand where you're coming from.
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They're different than you.
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You see the problem here.
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I don't like that person.
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Therefore, I'm going to throw a stone at them.
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Right.
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But that's no stone.
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It's advantageous for me to not throw a stone at Elon Musk.
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I'm going to demand that everybody else not throw stones at him.
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And it is unchristian to throw stones at him.
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Against what I was trying to say.
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There's these vulnerable people that I have othered.
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I see.
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This is what I'm trying.
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There's a like.
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You should throw stones at them.
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I'm on a mountain.
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Right.
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All right.
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I'm out here.
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I got a concert.
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I'm going to be up on a mountain.
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Come by, have some food.
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We'll talk.
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I'm gonna throw a stone at you.
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You sound like you want a stone thrown at you.
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I mean, he did.
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You know, it does feel like the crucifix should make sense at the end of this conversation.
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Yeah, what?
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People who talk in riddles should have stones thrown at them.
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That's what I say.
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Looks like somebody's not wanting a stone thrown their way in the form of a crucifix.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I think that there's just something so telling about that dynamic of Chase.
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Like, we don't throw stones strategically.
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Right.
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Other people that I have deemed stone worthy.
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I'll throw stones at those assholes.
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I mean, hey, listen to each their own.
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Yeah, I suppose.
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So we have one last clip here and it's Alex talking about the afterlife and how it's actually
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other dimensions and he's nuts.
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And I know it gives me great confidence, you know, that there is not an afterlife.
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It's the other dimensions.
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And this is just a manifestation of the higher dimensions because I have experienced it.
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And I've told people the stuff on the internet.
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Well, that's the Gnostics or that's this or that's Rudolph Steiner.
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And I'm like, I never read that.
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I go read it.
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It's like I see their perspective, the way their minds were able to put together what
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basically I've seen.
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But with my template, with the things I've seen in a more modern context, conceptually,
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I'm surprised they got it that close with what they had at their time because it was
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all theoretical.
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Yeah.
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But now a lot of this stuff is so theoretical, too, because it's so advanced.
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You know, I'm seeing ancient alien civilizations, other human civilizations, destroyed wars.
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I just want to go to this file, that file, just all the different angles.
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It's just like, oh, OK, you don't really want to look over there.
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You can do whatever you want.
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Oh, God.
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Yeah, I see.
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And so makes sense to me or you come over here and then it's just such a piece of completion.
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You know, I want to leave, but you don't want to be there either.
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Do you?
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You understand that that's what eternity is.
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You can just be totally content forever.
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Just bathe in God's presence.
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Or you can go on missions.
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You know, explore.
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You meet archaeologists throughout all time, all dimensions, all the universes.
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It's just it's just blasting open.
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So you can play video games.
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But Satanism is saying, I don't want to be part of this and creating your own little
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thing.
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Right.
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I never consented like a video game.
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That was the argument that's been happening at the guy that bombed the.
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Well, that's what Satanists always say.
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Your God's the real Satanist.
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He made all this and lets all this happen by giving us free will and consciousness.
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He created me killing babies.
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Yeah, see, that's your God.
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Well, and God doesn't have guilt, but I can tell you it's God's purpose.
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But God understands that we can see that as a perspective and say, was it wrong that I
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created you with free will?
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Because no, he can't.
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There's a whole book about it.
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I want other creatures that I can commune with that worship me.
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OK, because, you know, I love you.
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You love me.
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That's what that is.
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And then God says, well, did you have children?
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Because you don't know what's going to happen.
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You don't know they're turning into a serial killer.
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They're going to die someday, but they really don't.
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And so it's a we're not God, but we're little g in.
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In the first book of the Bible.
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The image of God made in the image.
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OK, so this argument fails on a number of levels.
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Yeah, I think that Alex is imagining God as like a debate gotcha guy.
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Yep.
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You know, because he knows all the answers already.
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Yeah.
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So he's like, it's your argument with God and you're like, God, I didn't choose to be born.
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Therefore, you're evil and all this is wrong.
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I didn't consent to being born.
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I totally get how you got that.
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So then the response is, did you have kids?
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But what if the answer is no?
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Oh, well, then I obliterate you from the.
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I didn't.
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I don't.
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I don't have kids.
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Well, then you're gone.
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Right.
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But the the question, did you have kids?
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It's supposed to be like, well, you put life into the world.
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You knew that there was going to be pain and suffering.
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But you thought it was worthwhile to have kids of your own.
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But I didn't.
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So.
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Right.
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So what then?
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We are.
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I think that I could still make the argument because I don't have kids that God is cruel
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to unconsensually bring life into the world.
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I'm not saying I would make that argument, but I could.
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You know, that's why as I get older, I realize like more and more that my favorite book of
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the Bible is Job, because fuck you, that's why makes so much more sense than everything
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else in this world.
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Like literally just why?
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Fuck you.
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The end.
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Yes.
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I made a bet.
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It makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Finally.
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Fuck me is right.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Well, that's I think that that mentality takes into account the triviality of our lives in
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a cosmic sense.
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Sure.
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You know, like if there is like a divine, there is a deity and all of this, it's not
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losing sleep over whether or not we get to bask in the completion of eternity.
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Nope.
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It's making a bet with the devil.
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Yeah.
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It's having fun.
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Yeah.
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Having a great time.
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I do like the idea though that when you die, it's a RPG, an open world.
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Yeah.
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You get to go join adventures, I guess.
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What class would you like to be?
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You want to be a Paladin or an archeologist?
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I'm always amazed at people with that afterlife stuff.
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Cause I can't imagine dying and then waking up and not being like, for real, more of this
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shit.
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God damn it.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Ugh.
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I think the demand for personalized experience past death is always something that I'm a
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little bit iffy on.
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It's very boutique.
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It kind of is.
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Yeah.
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I don't have any kind of real problem with conceptions of afterlives and what have you.
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But when you're getting that specific, like Alex is, do you want to be an adventurer?
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You can go on adventure.
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Hey, listen, you can chill.
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You can chill by the pool and enjoy God's love, of course.
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But for our special packages, we have horseback rides, we have alien fights.
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And whether or not you choose to like bask in the completion and perfectness of God forever,
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or you decide to go on missions and do all this, that is dependent on your earthly experience.
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Yeah.
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Like, right.
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It would be you, Jordan, making the decision at the afterlife point.
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Right.
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And that to me is wrong.
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Ah, it would suck.
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Yeah.
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Not just suck.
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Yeah.
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It makes more sense to me the idea that our lives on Earth are decisions that our spiritual
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selves made to make, not the other way around.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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No, I know.
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I think probably the biggest struggle that anyone could really have is just being like,
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pass, you know?
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Well, that's what Alex is saying Satanists are.
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Right.
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But they're a part of the whole system.
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You know, they got the whole God, they got the goal of hell, they got the whole Satan
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thing.
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Just pass.
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You guys have your fun.
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Do your thing.
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I'm gonna sit this one out.
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Sure.
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That's what I say.
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Well, you're evil.
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Yeah.
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Well, that does sound true.
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So I really, really...
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There's a be careful what you wish for kind of thing in life.
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Sure.
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And I think that I have wanted Alex to talk more specifically about some of his esoteric
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nonsense.
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Yeah.
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And I think he is and is not doing that.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I don't enjoy it because he's sober.
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I think we were younger.
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I think we were less experienced and I think we were unsure of quite how the world fully
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worked when we invited Alex to get sober.
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Yeah.
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I think we were naive.
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I imagined a world where Trump wasn't president.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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There's a whole series of things around it.
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I wanted what was best for him and the people around him because I thought that there was
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a lot of hope for larger society.
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Right.
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And now I'm not positive that that is the case and I want him to be drunk.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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This is unpalatable.
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Yeah.
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Him talking to Chase about the fucking afterlife and how he's glimpsed beyond the veil of reality
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into all of the extinct civilizations over time.
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That should be the best shit in the world.
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Yep.
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And it made me realize I don't want an Alex Jones painting show.
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I want an Alex Jones painting drunk show.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I don't want Alex throwing hatchets around the studio sober because that's never gonna
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happen.
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No.
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He needs to be drunk.
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And if it did happen while he was sober, it would be calculated and it would be bullshit.
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Yes.
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If it happens when he's drunk, there's a higher possibility that it is pure rampant nature.
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Yep.
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Tennyson's red in tooth and claw.
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Yep.
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We're talking that kind of nature.
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So I apologize for how hypocritical this legitimately is of me, but I beg Alex to start
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drinking again.
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I don't...
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You know, hypocrisy can come from many different places, but I don't think it can come from
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a place of humility.
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I humbly suggest that I was incorrect in the past.
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I was wrong too.
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I was wrong.
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I admit that I was wrong and I take accountability for my failures.
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Yes.
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So that's a great message.
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Yep.
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Anyway, we'll check in, see how Alex is doing in the future.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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