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I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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Knowledge fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge fight.
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Rattle her. Rattle her. Rattle her.
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Ahh!
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Need money.
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Rattle her. Rattle her. Rattle her.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and...
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Stop it.
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Andy and...
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and...
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Andy and...
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a big Tim Kolland, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Knowledge Fight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for ya.
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Sup.
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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My bright spot today is, I guess I got a new trimmer.
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Alright.
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And it has a bunch of attachments.
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Okay.
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And so it's got a nice nose hair trimmer.
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Oh.
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And I've not, I've been one for plucking nose hair.
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Oh yeah.
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Sometimes you know.
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Alright.
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I enjoy the way that it kinda hurts a little bit.
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Sure.
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No, no, I understand what you're talking about.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But I find this much more efficient.
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I've never had like a buzzy nose hair trimmer that I've used.
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So I tried that out, pretty nice.
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Yeah.
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That's a, I'm getting old.
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I like it.
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Type of bright spot.
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No, I've always been a scissors guy.
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I'm scared.
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Frankly, no, I've been the other direction.
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I'm scared of those.
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Oh really?
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Yeah, I can handle scissors.
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Somehow I'm fine with scissors, despite having a trimmer.
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They're very sharp.
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Despite having a trimmer.
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Yeah, I don't, I've never really been able to master the dexterity it takes to get the
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scissors in there right, right up your nose.
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I understand.
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The backwards one on the left is tough.
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This one, this is just shove it up there and let it go with God.
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You're convincing me.
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I'm at the go with God stage of cleaning myself.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, well, let me put it, have you ever seen the movie Phantom Thread?
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No.
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I've seen Phantom Menace.
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Different movie.
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So Phantom Thread, I think is a PT Anderson movie with that guy who's like a really good
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actor and essentially he's too busy.
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He works too hard.
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He's in a tumultuous relationship with his wife and then he gets very ill and his wife
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gets the chance to take care of him and spend time with him and their relationship works
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like that and then it kind of turns into a cyclical thing like he keeps getting ill.
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Anyways, the twist is it turns out they have a weird kind of fetish thing going on where
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she feeds him poison mushrooms and they kind of get off on it.
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Spoiler alerts for Phantom Thread.
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Right, right, right.
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It's pretty old.
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So here's how the thunderbolts end.
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But anyways, what I'm trying to say is that my wife is gravely ill.
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Is she still gravely ill?
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Yeah, she's not.
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Oh no.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we've spent a lot of time with doctor people yesterday.
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But the point is she's in the situation where it's like stuff is awful, but then it'll be
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not awful.
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It's not the situation where it's like stuff is awful and then oh boy, we don't know what's
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going to happen.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm sorry to hear this and we're all pulling for your wife to feel better, but the way
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you brought this up leads me to think you caused this illness for the sake of self arousal.
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No, what I'm trying to do is turn it into a bright spot so as not to be overwhelmed.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Sure.
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So what I'm trying to do is focus on how I'm spending more time with her over the next
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couple of days.
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That is a positive.
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Because she can't go to work.
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Well hey, you take that special together time when you can.
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Exactly.
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So that's what I'm focusing on.
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Is more together time.
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See now, I think that's great.
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We've landed on a positive thing.
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That's what I'm working on.
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But I do think that bringing up the phantom thread and describing the plot that way makes
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you very suspicious.
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That's fair.
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That's fair.
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And I accept that suspicion.
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I'm just struggling to find references to make this a positive.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Well I think you could have just left the phantom thread out of it.
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Well, that's possible.
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That's possible.
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And it sucks too that the challenge season is over.
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You can't even spend some time.
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What we do have.
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Extra free time to binge.
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What we do have, we got Taskmaster to look forward to sharing together.
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So that's what we've got.
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Yep.
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First episode is out.
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Good times.
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A lot of fun.
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The book is delivering so far.
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The balance is good.
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Uh huh.
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Yep.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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And I don't know, it stinks.
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To quote Jay Sherman.
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It stinks!
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And we'll get to it here in a second.
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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, happy opening day to Jordan and all the other wonks who love baseball.
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Go Padres!
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Thank you!
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Next, Will loves his britty.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And the hairiest communist teacher in all of Sweden.
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And I would love to specify that I am a teacher who is a communist rather than a teacher of
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communism.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Thank you!
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And we got a technocrat at the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Andy from Sports.
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You're on my throat.
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Thanks for standing.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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You're from sports, right?
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I am from sports.
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Yeah.
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I was, I was, I was born in sports.
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You merely adopted it.
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Did you and Andy know each other back in sports?
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Did not.
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Did not.
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You don't know all the Andys in sports.
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I found out there's too many of them.
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There's a lot of Andys in sports.
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Well, you know what sports national anthem is?
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What is sports national anthem?
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The whole Huey Lewis and the News album.
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The whole album.
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Wow.
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That's a long, that's a long anthem.
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Yeah.
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Games take forever to start.
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To start, yeah.
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So, Jordan, today we're going to be talking about our primary ding dong.
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All right.
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We're going to be talking about Alex on April 25th, 2025, 25, 25, 4, 25, 25.
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Yep.
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Oh, gotcha.
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Yep.
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So a lot of big, a lot of big shits happening.
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And this is the day after news broke that a judge in Milwaukee had been arrested.
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Yes.
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And so this is the story that Alex leads off the show with.
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Okay.
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I woke up to some really good news at 4am this morning.
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A lot of good news.
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Not one, but two of these activist Democrat party judges that got raided yesterday and
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this morning in New Mexico and in Wisconsin by the FBI for their cut and dry obstructing
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justice, violating federal law and protecting gang bangers, illegal aliens, you name it.
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We already discussed the case of the arrested judge in New Mexico, but now there's a second
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high profile instance of the Trump administration arresting a judge.
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No matter like how concerned you may be about it, I think you might be, uh, you maybe should
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be a little more concerned.
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You know, this is bad, scary stuff.
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Sure.
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So this is about a judge in Milwaukee named Hannah Dugan who's accused of intentionally
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misdirecting federal agents.
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A man was scheduled to appear in her court for a domestic violence charge and ICE agents
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decided to come scoop him up there to deport him from NBC news quote Dugan and another
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unnamed judge are alleged to have confronted the agents in the hallway, asking them whether
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they had a judicial warrant and telling them to speak to the chief judge according to the
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affidavit.
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After Dugan escorted Flores Ruiz and his lawyer through the jury door, agents pursued them
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by foot and took Flores Ruiz into custody.
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And then the FBI arrested Dugan after this, the judge.
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This is a real mess of a situation because in a very technical legal sense, her arrest
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isn't just a flimsy piece of political theater and intimidation.
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Dugan was arrested after an FBI agent filed an affidavit.
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So none of this is proven in court, but based on the details outlined in that document,
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Dugan's actions are a bit suspicious.
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For one thing, she ushered the guy and his lawyer out the jury door and then returned
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to the bench to hear more cases from the affidavit quote later that morning, attorney B realized
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that Flores Ruiz's case had never been called and asked the court about it.
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Attorney B learned that Flores Ruiz's case had been adjourned.
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This happened without attorney B's knowledge or participation, even though attorney B was
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present in court to handle Flores Ruiz's case on behalf of the state and even though victims
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were present in the courtroom.
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There are a lot of open questions about this whole situation.
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For instance, Dugan seemed to believe that the agents who were there needed to have a
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judicial warrant for their arrest, whereas they only had an administrative warrant.
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According to the law, she's incorrect, but if she did believe that was needed, her telling
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them to talk to the chief judge becomes less suspicious.
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The government's angle on it is that her telling them to do this, to go to the chief judge,
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it was a ploy to get them away from the courtroom so she could allow for Flores Ruiz to escape.
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However, in the affidavit, when the agents were able to speak to the chief judge, he
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said he was quote working on a policy which would dictate locations within the courthouse
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where ICE could safely conduct enforcement actions.
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That strongly indicates that it was a fluid situation where Dugan may not have had clear
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directions on how to handle this and it might be reasonable to think that she believed all
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such arrests at the courthouse were inappropriate.
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Even if this is the case, there does appear to be a bit of subterfuge in her actions, which
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I personally don't think is that bad.
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I don't really have a problem with it, but I can understand how a court might.
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Well, yeah, I mean, if you're a hero, if you're on the Underground Railroad, but you also
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accept the possibility that if you get caught, you're fucked.
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Yeah, it is also a crime in a very technical legal sense.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I've read up a bit on this case and it does seem like the idea of arresting Dugan isn't
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some senseless authoritarian move, but it's also not appropriate.
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It's a wildly outsized reaction to the information provided in that affidavit and it's hard not
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to see this as making a statement.
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It's very hard to see this as an isolated incident.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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If you had this set of circumstances presented in a textbook as a hypothetical situation,
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I think it's easy to judge Dugan's actions more harshly, but that requires ignoring the
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reality of the anti-immigrant sentiment that our government is clearly operating off of
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and the danger that ICE represents to people.
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At a time when people scooped up by immigration agents are ending up being taken to detention
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centers in El Salvador and the bar for what can get someone in trouble with immigration
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officials is becoming lower and more vague, it makes more sense for a judge to not want
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her courtroom to be used as a trap to ensnare people on behalf of ICE.
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Even if Flores Ruiz is guilty of the crimes that he was charged with, he was in her courtroom
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to stand trial on those charges, not his immigration status, so I can imagine her not wanting to
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be used as an instrument for that.
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But even that relies on a little bit of me assuming her mental state.
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As someone who wants no part of enabling ICE, it's easy for me to read this case and
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project that motivation onto her, but that might not have been the situation at all.
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We don't know.
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Making a lot of assumptions.
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Sure.
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I think that folks who want to justify Dugan's arrest are going to be able to, but even so,
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it represents the direction that things are going and it's very bad.
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I think it speaks to a dangerous precedent and shit, even if I think her actions descriptively
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could probably be like, hey, you're not supposed to do that.
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Well, I mean, the FBI sending a message through that one guy, which makes sense.
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And then, you know, they think that the ICE people, it makes sense.
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You know, they're trapped there.
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Why not go catch them where they're trapped?
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Right?
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Obviously.
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Sure.
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Only you have to remember the thing that they always remember like 20 years too late, which
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is that now no one's going to show up to court, you idiots.
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Why would you show up to court?
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That's where ICE is.
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So nobody's going to show up to court.
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It's a push and pull, you know, because that dynamic does exist.
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And then at the same time, you know, if someone is presumably a big threat, like, and it's
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dangerous to try and bring them into custody.
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Being at a courthouse is strong because you come into a position where they've walked
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through metal detectors and they're somewhere where it's pretty safe to try and apprehend
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them.
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I understand that.
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That makes sense.
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It's a, it's...
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So now I'm not going to be there though.
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It's an advantageous place for you.
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That's the other side of the seesaw.
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You know?
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We are, we are fighting, right?
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I'm not going to go to a place where you have all the advantages.
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Yeah, likely not.
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I don't know.
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I think that this situation's a mess.
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And I think that it's very easy to get drawn into a, like, she did nothing wrong.
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And I'm willing to believe that on a personal level, but I'm not willing to pretend that
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the law doesn't say like, you can't just usher people out of a court.
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Right, right.
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I mean, you know, that's the thing.
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If you want to stand up for what you believe in, part of that is sometimes the people who
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believe against you are going to hit you.
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Yeah.
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And that's complicated.
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But anyway, I don't care for Alex's position on celebrating this.
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Unsurprising.
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Yeah.
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COVID is still a deadly bioweapon and such.
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And Alex has a new whistleblower on that front.
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Plus new Pfizer whistleblower who warns the shots are poison, joins Alex Jones live on
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air.
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Great job to American Journal.
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I was working out this morning when the show started, but I then went and looked on Infowars,
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who they had on.
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I was in my office making some phone calls and I went, wait a minute, they've got the
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big whistleblower on first that Elon Musk just responded to massively and went public
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and said, look, wasn't just his brother almost got killed by the shot.
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He thought he was having a heart attack when he took the mRNA shot.
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He didn't say it was Pfizer or Moderna, but that's the same stuff.
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Darn it, it's four times stronger.
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And I told you that's what woke up Musk.
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I was told by people very close to Musk that he got sick from it, but I didn't know it
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was his heart.
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So it really hurt his brother bad at a bunch of his top engineers.
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So he's a smart guy.
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You can look around and it's not anecdotal when a bunch of people get sick.
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Well, where's this engineer?
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Where's that person that's always here?
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Where's the other workaholics like me, my best buddies?
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Well they're there.
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They're having myocarditis, sir.
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They're they're having autoimmune disorders.
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Well they're in a coma.
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Where's my son?
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Oh, they grabbed him and they're sterilizing him.
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Oh, who's doing that?
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Oh, it's the New World Order.
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Alex Jones is right.
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So that's coming up.
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So it's still anecdotal when you have multiple instances of something you observe.
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These are just anecdotes we're hearing with no proof of anything.
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That's what it means.
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Having two friends who are sick can make you more persuaded by the anecdotal evidence that
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you're looking at, but it doesn't magically become empirical evidence because there's
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more stuff to look at.
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This is a failing that Alex's information space has.
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He doesn't understand what it means to prove something, and in the absence of that concept,
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he's replaced proving with persuading.
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If he can rattle off a bunch of shit, he may be able to persuade the listener of a point,
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but he hasn't proved anything.
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That's kind of the whole strategy of the information war when you really get down to it and what
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he uses like a crutch.
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Alex has this big scoop, but he actually got scooped by Harrison Smith.
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Oh no!
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Harrison must be like, okay, anybody who interacts with Elon Musk, we're going to try to get
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them on.
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It does feel like that.
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And now Alex has been fucked because this big guest that he wanted to have on, Harrison
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had him on that morning.
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God damn it.
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So it's yet another fake whistleblower claiming that the COVID vaccines are poison.
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This guy's name is Justin Leslie, and he worked with James O'Keefe and has written some affidavits
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that he sent to the Hague, hoping to get all the usual suspects charged with crimes against
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humanity.
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I guess that Elon interacted with this guy on Twitter, and now Alex is tripping over
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his feet to try to get him on the show, but I don't think he did his homework.
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Leslie doesn't really have any strong evidence-based claims to blow the whistle on, and an essential
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part of his story is that James O'Keefe and Project Veritas were involved in trying to
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squash his story.
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They reached out to him to get undercover footage and offered him a job specifically
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to string him along and never release his information, according to Justin.
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He's basically accusing James O'Keefe of being controlled opposition and says that
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O'Keefe admitted to going to Bohemian Grove, so this might not be exactly what Alex is
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looking for.
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Also, there are little tip-offs in his self-written affidavits that Leslie might be a bit of a
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sovereign citizen type.
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It does not come off great, reading those affidavits.
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The first bullet point on all of them is like, I am a real human.
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Love it.
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You know what?
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It's kind of crazy that I wish we could return to.
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I feel like that was the cra- like, I like to see them now.
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It's almost quaint.
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It's like, yes, you keep believing that stuff.
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As long as you believe that, you're not in the real world causing havoc.
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I am a flesh and blood capital letter human.
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You know what?
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I agree with you.
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Good for you.
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Let's reinforce that.
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So, Alex has been a staunch supporter of Romanian presidential candidate Kalin Dzurjescu.
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Right.
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He's been on the show and there's some updates in Romanian politics.
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Great.
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All right.
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There's a lot more on the trade war and the stocks.
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And, oh, big news.
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Romanian judge defies globalist overlords, overrides the Soros lower court, overturns
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deep state's coup d'etat annulment of anti-NATO candidate Kalin Dzurjescu.
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We're working on getting him to pop on.
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Oh.
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So now he won the first round by a huge majority, which meant he will win the last round.
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In fact, usually when I was in the constitution, I might not even have had the election.
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But he had such a...
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And now he's even more popular.
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Shit is a total mess with the election in Romania.
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That sounds right.
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The latest news is that a lower appeals court ruled that the original election results shouldn't
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have been thrown out, which is crazy.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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A new election has already been scheduled and is actually happening right now.
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No, can't.
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It's not even feasible for this court's opinion to be put into action.
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Cancel it.
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But there's a deeper problem.
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The suspension of the election was done by the Romanian constitutional court and this
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appeals court does not have the ability to overturn things decided by the constitutional
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court.
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Alex is pretending this is a lower court, but it is not.
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The court has jurisdiction over administrative matters, which doesn't include rulings from
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the constitutional court.
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So basically this court ruling should never have even been possible.
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They were hearing a moot question that the court itself had no ability to rule on, which
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is why a former Romanian judge described the whole thing as quote judicial abuse.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Alex is lying about this story and the underlying story because he doesn't care about lying
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when it serves his purposes to lie.
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Like Joe Rogan described it, the Alex Jones problem.
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Kalen Georgescu got just under 23% in the first round of voting in the initial election
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and the second place candidate Elena Lascone got just over 19%.
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Alex is saying that Georgescu won the first round with a huge majority because he's a
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liar and he's a liar because lying is the easiest way for him to do his job.
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He doesn't require him to work in the margins or create points.
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Just fake it.
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Yeah, just lie about it.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, I mean, it's a mess though.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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Here's what I think because, and I think a lot of people might exaggerate, but I think
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a lot of judges are batshit insane, right?
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Not all of them and not a ton of them, but more than is okay.
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Sure.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like if there's 5% of people who work at a mail office who are like not that great and
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maybe a little megalomaniacal, you're going to be okay.
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We're all going to make it through.
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5% of judges is too high.
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That's too high.
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You know?
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Well, you have that label, this is a no nonsense judge.
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No, I want some nonsense.
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That's not even what I'm saying.
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I'm saying that the fact that people had to clarify that this judge is a no nonsense judge,
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it means that there might be a nonsense problem.
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And a small percent of judges, if they're batty, then it can be-
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Yeah.
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Listen, 5% normally is good.
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We should be proud of 95% success rate.
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That's an A. That's almost A plus.
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But with judges, you just can't.
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5% is a lot to fuck shit up with.
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Yeah.
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I think that oftentimes when a judge is a mess, they're not going to be really visually
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apparent.
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They're already wearing a dress.
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Right.
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They have a fun costume.
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There's not a super villain branding kind of thing that they do.
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No.
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And the hard part is it's so, and it's because it's so impossible to undo their shit.
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You know?
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But also, I think the problem that you get into is why would you want to be a judge?
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Isn't it-
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Already a terrible idea.
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People are generally like, hey, you're being too judgy.
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That's a social faux pas.
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Absolutely.
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And now your whole job is judging?
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Judges aren't on anybody's team.
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It's very strange.
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That's the idea, right?
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Strange impulse.
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Yeah.
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So Alex talks about the judge that got arrested some more, and they're all just, they're
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committing obstruction of justice.
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Let's start plowing into the big one.
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You have these immigration judges that are openly federal and state saying, we don't
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care what the cut and dry law says.
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We don't care if an immigration court and a person's an illegal alien even has another
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criminal record on top of them illegally coming here.
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We aren't going to work with you.
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We are, in fact, we're not going to let you know when they're even in jail for something.
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And then when we release them, we're not going to notify the feds.
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And then we're going to house them in our houses, like the governor of New Jersey bragging.
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And Tom Homan said, fine, you've been referred for criminal prosecution.
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And you've got AOC holding public seminars and training events with illegal aliens, including
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known gang members and criminals on how to evade federal warrants.
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That is cut and dry obstruction of justice.
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That is aiding and abetting someone absconding.
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I get what Alex is saying, but he really needs to be held responsible for the implications
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of his positions.
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AOC isn't holding workshops where she tells people how to evade warrants.
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She's been working to help people understand their rights so they don't get jammed up if
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ICE shows up somewhere.
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Alex cannot believe that informing people of their rights is a subversive act because
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his career is entirely based on knowing your rights so you can stand up to the police state.
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One of his old sponsors was a book that taught people where to hide their guns.
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Many of them needed to hide these guns because they were felons who weren't legally allowed
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to possess them.
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It's things like this that represent his complete betrayal of the character that he used to
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pretend to be.
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He could be someone who wants immigrants deported while still being someone who's deeply concerned
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about the preservation of individual rights.
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But he's not because he never really cared about the preservation of rights to begin
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with.
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That was the respectable facade that he put on in order to not feel bad about the monstrous
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positions he actually wanted to advance.
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So fuck him.
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Yeah, I don't know how you can...
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I kinda don't know how you can support ICE, period, without also being like, I probably
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would have supported the slave catchers, right?
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Like there's no functional difference other than time period.
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I think that's a fair assessment of the way Alex would operate and does operate.
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So there have been some instances of people who have been snatched up by ICE and may be
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shipped over to El Salvador.
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How is it okay to have a government that snatches people up and then sends them places, period?
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Like before we even get into specifics.
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What is that?
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How is that a thing we say?
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Sometimes they say it was an accident.
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It's fine.
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What?
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It's a prank.
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We can't...
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No!
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No, you can't.
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Alex has self-described the jail in El Salvador as a prison planet.
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Right?
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That was his idea.
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He's very excited about that.
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So he discusses the case of one of these people who has been in the headlines frequently as
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a Maryland man.
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Which is really making a lot of the right wing really angry because they don't view
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him as a person from Maryland.
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Well.
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It's the total 90-10 issue.
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They keep calling it 80-20.
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Every issue that's 80-20.
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80% popular.
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What Trump is doing, which is true on the border stuff, it's like 87.
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And the Democrats are for the 15% or whatever.
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But a lot of these things, it's like 95-5.
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Where the Democrats are picking the thing that almost no one supports.
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And now it's turned out that their little poster child out of Maryland gets caught with
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smugglers in a smuggler car smuggling people years ago.
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And just everywhere.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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It looks like the guy's like a capo in MS-13.
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But it didn't matter.
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He's here illegally.
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But the New York Times says he was just living quietly in Maryland.
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When he's getting picked up all over the country and they're putting in the police reports.
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This is a smuggler vehicle owned by smugglers with these illegals.
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This is a smuggling operation we believe.
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But then they just get turned loose by the Soros DA's that control almost every town
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in this country.
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So Alex is talking about the case of Kilmer Abrego Garcia, who's a guy who lived in Maryland
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and then was taken by ICE and sent to a jail in El Salvador.
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The Trump administration claimed that he was a member of MS-13, but then when lawyers pushed
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back on the fact that they haven't proved or provided any evidence of that, the government
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tried to say that they'd sent Garcia to El Salvador in prison due to a quote, administrative
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error.
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Abrego Garcia fled from El Salvador when he was 16 because gangs were threatening to kill
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his family.
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He lived here for the past 14 years working a construction job, getting married to a US
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citizen, and raising a family.
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I'm not sure he's the best person in the world, and I don't really think that matters in this
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case because he was legitimately abducted and sent to a foreign prison, specifically
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one in a country that the US immigration courts had previously determined that he faced a
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well-founded danger in returning to.
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Ever since this case has come up and the Trump administration made an insane admission that
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he was sent there by an administrative error, it's been the mission of the right wing media
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to justify Abrego Garcia's arrest and deportation.
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So they've been finding whatever dirt they can on him to make his kidnapping seem okay
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after the fact.
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There was an argument that he was a gang member, and that was based on testimony of a confidential
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informant after Abrego Garcia was arrested in 2019 for loitering outside a Home Depot
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looking for work.
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This informant said that he was part of a gang in New York despite him never having
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lived in New York.
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There's credibility issues with this part of the allegation.
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Then there's this new piece that Alex is talking about, where Tennessee police have
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released video of a traffic stop from 2022 where Abrego Garcia is pulled over for speeding
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in a car with eight passengers.
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Abrego Garcia explained that they had been on a job in Missouri and were traveling to
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Maryland for another job.
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In the video, the officers speculate about how this could be human trafficking, but it's
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never established, nor is it even seriously alleged.
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The cops let him go with a warning, and the situation had nothing to do with a Soros DA,
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like Alex is trying to pretend.
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This is all bullshit.
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This is a really clear-cut case of an immigration kidnapping, which is why you see people like
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Alex working to justify it.
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They want more of this kind of thing, and they know that they can get the public to
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care a little bit less if they demonize the person who was a subject of that kidnapping.
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If they make the narrative that this guy deserved to be sent to an El Salvador in prison, they
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make it easier to justify later kidnappings and disappearings, and that's the game Alex
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is playing.
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Sure.
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After the fact rationalization, oh yeah, sure, they did that, and it was crazy, but he wasn't
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that good a guy.
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Yeah.
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Like, who cares?
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Yeah, I mean, but that's the other side of the judge thing, is that if you had any courage
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as a judge, you'd be like, well, now you guys are kidnappers, because that's the definition
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of crimes that we call kidnapping.
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The people who snatched him-
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We enter into-
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Then kidnapped him-
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Pretty crazy territory.
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So now you are on trial for kidnapping, you kidnappers.
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Yeah, the Supreme Court has said that they need to work to get him back, and-
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Wild.
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Trump has said nah.
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Yeah, I mean, make me.
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What?
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What kind of idiot would even- if I was the Supreme Court, I would have said, yeah, I
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guess it's fine, because at least then you don't admit that there's no way for you to
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enforce anything if he just decides he doesn't want to.
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I think at certain points in the past, we have been like, oh man, this is going to lead
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to a constitutional crisis.
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And it turns out we're just constantly living in those crises, and we're pretending that
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they aren't happening.
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So Alex plays a clip of Tom Homan, the borders are-
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And I honestly found this chilling.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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Good stuff.
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Yeah.
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I found this to be one of the scarier clips I've heard from an official in a while.
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Cool.
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Here's Tom Homan.
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Yeah, sir, the president said this, and I quote, we cannot give everyone a trial because
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to do so would take without exaggeration 200 years.
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Now the court has said that those subject to the statute needed to be given the opportunity
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to challenge their removal.
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To me, I interpret that as a sense of due process.
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How do you interpret that?
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I think due process was given, like the Maryland father, the MS-13 terrorist that was removed,
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he had due process.
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He was ordered removed by two different immigration judges.
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Here's what they're doing, here's the plan.
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The Biden administration overwhelmed the system.
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10.5 million people came to the border.
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They know it's going to take years to get through the court docket.
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By then, they're hoping there's another democratic administration in.
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They'll have US citizen children, then all of a sudden nobody wants them removed.
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We're spoiling their plans to have future democratic voters and through a census have
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control of the house.
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Through census vote, democratic, sanctuary cities get more seats in the house.
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This is their plan.
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That's why they overwhelmed the system.
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That's why they didn't detain them.
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When they detained them, they get a hearing in 35 days.
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They released them.
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Now it's going to take five to seven years.
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They're going to keep playing this game to the immigration courts who appeal after appeal
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after appeal, district judge, district judge to slow us down because their hopes is they'll
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gain power again, then they can warn amnesty to 10 million illegal aliens that are released
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in this country illegally.
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That is their plan.
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We're trying to remove these public safety threats, national security threats as quick
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as possible.
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They're putting every roadblock imaginable in front of us to prevent us from doing that.
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So that's the Trump borders are arguing that giving people a day in court is a roadblock
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that the Democrats have put in place to stop him from being able to expel immigrants.
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Sure.
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I think that this is a very important snapshot because this is normal now, apparently.
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This is a highly influential member of the president's cabinet who's on TV saying that
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accepting immigrants and refugees, uh, refugees seekers into the country.
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It's part of a conspiracy to create more Democrat voters and shift the census.
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So there are more Democrat seats in Congress.
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This is insane right wing conspiracy propaganda.
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And in a functional world saying things like this would immediately disqualify someone
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from holding public office.
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He should be impeached immediately at its core.
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What Homan is expressing is a white nationalist narrative.
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The Republican party and Trump's base in particular view themselves as the last hope for quote,
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traditional Americans, which is to say white people of European descent.
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Democrats winning elections is understood as the erosion of this power base, the toppling
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of the hierarchy where white people are on the top because Democrats push multicultural
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ideas.
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The Democrats could never get elected on their own because the traditional Americans would
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always win in a fair contest, which is why the Democrats are trying to bring in all of
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these nonwhite populations who would naturally be inclined to oppose the hierarchical society
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where white people are on top, which is just and good and natural.
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We have top government officials who are expressing this on TV and honestly, I don't care if he
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believes it or not.
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The fact that someone can say something like this and not immediately get impeached.
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I really do think that it's a strong indication that our system might be broken beyond repair.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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This, I, I can't, I can't believe this.
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I mean, I feel like we've been, you know, like, okay, my entire life, right?
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People really liked to be like, ah, we're the good guys in World War II thing.
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And then the every, it was cool that we punished the Nazis.
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And now I feel like we've, we were too hard on the Nazis because boy, if you want to,
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whoa, you can't look at them and not look at us and be like, ah, fuck.
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Yeah.
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Maybe we're, it's interesting that you're making that point because you'll be coming
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face to face with a little bit of a Nazi here.
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Good!
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Great!
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Alex has that whistleblower, that COVID whistleblower on the show and he gives him an introduction.
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And that's when I realized I don't care about this at all.
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People that don't know about your story, you should probably recap that.
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So I was a formulation analytical scientist that worked directly on the COVID-19 vaccine.
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It was my first job out of college.
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I was 23 years old when I first started working there.
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I started working there in March of 2021.
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So the vaccine rollout had already started.
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But I knew that the vaccines were injuring and killing people initially in which, you
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know, I was looking for a job opportunity, like I was telling Harrison on the American
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Journal.
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But I also knew that I knew better and that I had the opportunity to be a whistleblower
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if I took the job and see how it was from within and, you know, take it all from a truth
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teller's and truth seeker's perspective, someone who is critical and hypercritical
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of what was going on inside the walls of Pfizer.
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So introducing this story, this guy's shot himself in the foot.
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He's not a whistleblower.
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He's an activist who took a job somewhere with the explicit intention of gathering information
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that pushed a predetermined conclusion.
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He wasn't someone who worked at Pfizer who knew things and just had to get them off his
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chest.
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He set out from the jump to support the narrative that he wanted to push and it's boring.
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I'm not saying you can't do something like this.
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It's just that it's not whistleblowing.
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Trying to frame his actions in that category is just dishonest.
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He also didn't work for Pfizer.
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In his affidavit, he says that he got a bachelor's degree from Rhode Island University in biomedical
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and pharmaceutical sciences and then got a job with MindLance Incorporated.
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They're basically a staffing and temp agency that a lot of people view as quite disreputable.
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If they were providing contracted work for Pfizer, then it would have been the lowest
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of entry level positions, which makes me a bit suspicious about what this guy even
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did for work and how long he might have been there.
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His affidavit also makes me not trust him much since he says, quote, virology itself
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is a pseudoscience, also creates no need for a vaccine and should be considered a bio weapon.
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He also said, quote, virology has been proven pseudoscientific and there's no need for any
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vaccines ever.
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I am a human being.
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His affidavit backs up things he's citing by pointing to things that are posted on like
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Mike Adams site Natural News.
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So that's how serious this should be taken.
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Fuck off.
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I don't care.
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What a whistleblower.
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But I guess Elon interacted with him on Twitter, so cool.
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It's not quite going to a meat packing plant and revealing that the state of the world
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isn't what we want it to be.
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He does have a website where you can buy supplements and stuff.
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He's getting on the right track.
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Man, it is like a remora or something.
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Do you know what I mean?
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The supplement agents are just like there.
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The moment somebody's like, oh yeah, we can sell supplements through this guy.
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It's amazing.
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Well, it's just kind of an evolution of the affiliate link kind of marketing strategy.
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All you have to do is really get enough eyes to your thing and then people will want to
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use you and you can make a little cut.
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And so why not?
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I was a temp at a place.
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Oh, I know that COVID is a bio weapon.
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Oh, great.
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Get it while you can.
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Get your get send go up.
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Make whatever you want to do with this thing.
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It does feel like occasionally sometimes all you need for a career is just gall.
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Just the willingness to fucking do it and kind of spit on that thing.
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Yeah.
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Find people use you.
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Yeah.
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I told you you would have to come face to face with a Nazi and it's coming earlier than
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you think because Alex has Nick Fuentes in studio.
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Great.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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I bet.
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Well, you find him at Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble and on X and some other places at Nick J.
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Fuentes and he is in studio with us for the next hour and 53 plus minutes.
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And it should be a lively discussion debate.
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Always a great job.
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Been inviting you on the show for a few weeks, trying to get you on.
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And you were too busy.
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He said, nope.
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You texted me last Friday.
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You said, how about next Friday?
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He said you were going to be in Texas.
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So you're here.
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And it's great to have Nick Fuentes with us.
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Obviously, one of the most attacked and demonized people out there.
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Very, very controversial.
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One of the biggest interviews ever with you.
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And I love Hitler here.
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Yeah.
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That was certainly interesting.
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And, you know, my perspective on this is you can't be mad at Nick J. Fuentes for being
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a white supremacist when the left is being so anti white.
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As long as you can describe the left as being anti white, then there's no space for criticizing
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white supremacists.
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And that's what I'm saying.
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And I'm going to cut through the bullshit.
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Alex supports neo Nazi and white nationalist ideas.
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It's just that simple.
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Yeah.
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It's cute that he's trying to mask his bigotry by saying that you can't judge Nick for being
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a white supremacist when the left is being so anti white.
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As long as you can describe the left as being anti white, then there's no space for criticizing
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white supremacists.
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The issue here is that if you accept that framing, then all you have to do to enable
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and support white supremacists is to pretend that the left is anti white.
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As long as you're able to push a narrative that says the left is anti white, you have
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carte blanche to never take responsibility for your part in endorsing white supremacy.
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And if you look at the things that Alex think represent anti white sentiment on the left,
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it becomes very obvious that he's deeply invested in creating the perception that the left is
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anti white as opposed to documenting and discussing real instances of racism.
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He goes out of his way to create narratives that paint the left as anti white because
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the more successful he is in doing that, the more cover he has to promote people like Nick.
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The bottom line is that Alex wants to be a white supremacist, but he really doesn't want
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to have people make him feel bad about it by presenting things this way.
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He can have his cake and eat it too.
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And it's pretty obvious.
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Yeah.
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Especially the way he articulated that at the end.
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That makes it pretty clear.
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I mean, yeah.
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I think that's just that.
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That's one of those things where it's like now we it's 2025.
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Now, when you see the framing, you can't be mad at blank if other team blank.
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It just can't we can't do it anymore.
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Not really.
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We can't.
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You know, you used to hear it and you used to be like, well, maybe there.
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But now you now we know you can't.
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You can't.
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Yeah, you just can't.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So this is how he's really just a reaction.
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Sounds right.
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The country's been super far left for such a long time.
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You got crime, degeneracy, mass migration, globalism.
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I mean, this is what gave rise to people like yourself and one generation, people like me
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and the next.
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We respond to the need.
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The world is undergoing a horrible revolution.
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I think horrible changes are I think has been for a long time.
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And we're the counter revolution, where the counter movement, where the reaction.
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So I totally agree with you and I appreciate.
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I want to make it clear you are a champion of free speech.
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I know a lot of people give you a hard time.
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Some people question whether you're 100 percent legit, but you are legit.
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You always have been.
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So you've always given me a platform on the shelf.
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So I really appreciate that.
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I guess you can say that Nick is a reaction to the country being far left for so long in the same way that the Nazis pretended that they just wanted to save Germany from the degeneracy of the Weimar Republic.
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Regressive authoritarian bigots always rely on these kinds of rationales to avoid feeling bad about the things they promote and do.
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Always insisting that they started it is a self-soothing tactic.
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And I can understand why it's necessary for people like Nick to get through the day.
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But this is also pretty funny.
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He is really being kissing Alex's ass.
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And at first I thought, like, ooh, that's a bad sign.
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Because he's usually like, you know, a much freer entity than Alex.
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And I thought, like, uh-oh, he's kissing the ring here in a way that makes me think that things are bad.
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And in honesty, I think it's just that he's trying to butter Alex up.
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I don't think that it's out of desperation.
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I think it's out of a, like, I think it's more hostile than that.
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I think that he knows that he's called Alex a fat liar who works for the Jews and stuff like that.
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Like, he's done a bunch of really awful shit.
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And so Alex could bring that up in a way that's confrontational.
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And by doing this, he cuts that off.
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I think this is a defensive move on his part to just be like, I'm not even going to let you bring it up.
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I'm just going to kiss your ass and your vanity and ego won't allow you to attack me calling you a fake piece of shit.
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I agree, because, of course, you are a fake piece of shit.
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The problem with this conversation is you embody the thing that I called you, therefore you are known.
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Yeah, in order to now attack me on this front, you risk making yourself not feel good.
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And I think, a masterful move.
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It's an interesting space to live in, because I can't live there.
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If he had said that about me, I would be like, okay, we have to settle this thing before we can even talk again.
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There's no need for us to talk until this is settled. This is between us.
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Right, but not really. Because Alex's entire conflict with Nick is basically like, play the game.
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Let's make some money, let's do business together here, let's fucking fake a lot of this shit, let's mask things.
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And Nick isn't super into that. So Alex wouldn't want to flesh this out on her.
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Exactly. That's a space that I, it's like an interesting space to live.
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How do you live in a non-continuity in reality?
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I don't think you can. I don't know.
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So, one of the things that a lot of people attack Alex for is the fact that his family seem to all be in intelligence operations.
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That does seem strange.
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He has a lot of stories about various people from his family who are the CIA.
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Awfully connected to the government.
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Yeah, and so he and Nick talk a little bit about this.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:46.440)
Well, I mean, I've seen you, I think, from memory, you say, well, he has said some of his family was doing some of the government stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:45:52.440)
I've been saying that for 30 plus years, it's true, and that's how I grew up knowing the government was bad because they got out of it.
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So it's not like a secret, look, we discovered that his uncle worked for the CIA.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:04.440)
By retiring. They got out of it by retiring.
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And I learned this stuff from him.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:09.440)
Right. Well, I think that you're legitimate because I know you, I've met you, I've talked to you, and I think we're on the same page on some things, not so much on other things.
Unknown Speaker (00:46:20.440)
But, as you know, you do have intelligence families. Intelligence is generational.
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If somebody's dad or grandfather is in intelligence, typically they'll follow suit.
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And so I just find it a little bit interesting. I have said on the show, when it's someone like yourself or someone like Tucker who I've called out, he has a much more direct connection.
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You know, his dad was running Voice of America, which is U.S. propaganda.
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And so I look at something like that, and I think any listener, any viewer has to discern and evaluate for themselves whether they think that's suspicious, whether they think that's cause for concern or not, you know, or they evaluate whether that person's honest.
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Well, I mean, in the case of Tucker, Jud Treebot's fruits, he's trying to stop World War III and do a great job.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:03.440)
Look, Tucker's cool.
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Jesus. Jesus, right?
Unknown Speaker (00:47:07.440)
Tucker's cool, good job.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:09.440)
This is quite putting Alex on his back foot.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:12.440)
Yeah. I love it.
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Because Nick is saying, everything about you screams fed.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:18.440)
Yep.
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But I know you and you're cool.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:21.440)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:22.440)
Now, someone who's not cool is Tucker, your best friend.
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It's the most, it's the most obviously manipulative thing to do.
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It's like a, it's like a reading a textbook.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:31.440)
Oh, you're cool.
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It's reading a textbook on how to manipulate people.
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It's crazy.
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Everyone who's described almost exactly like you sucks, but you're great.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:39.440)
Yep.
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Yeah. And he's just, he's in the right spot too.
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He's right where you should be.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:45.440)
Always attack. Your team is already in power.
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So only, the only thing that will happen is you will get more eyes on you.
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There is no negative consequences for him whatsoever.
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So just go whole hog.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:47:59.440)
Yeah. So like this idea that Nick has is that, you know, like these family members, they're like, you know, a lot of times intelligence families exist.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:06.440)
Yeah.
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And you just can't really trust people who have been in intelligence and that, that kind of world, they create their own world.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:15.440)
Yeah.
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And so when you have these whistleblowers and shit, a lot of times you shouldn't really trust them.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:21.440)
Because if they're coming from intelligence, they might be fake.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:25.440)
Or they're part, they're being, their information is faked in order to gain your trust.
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Or their information is real in order to gain your trust.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:33.440)
Exactly.
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Or their information is real fake in order to trick you into thinking their information is fake real.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:37.440)
And so you should always be very careful with whistleblowers and such.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:41.440)
Right.
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And this just deteriorates into what I would describe as a fascinating meta conversation that they're having.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:48.440)
And honestly, I don't trust a lot of them.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:50.440)
I think you're right.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:51.440)
There are whistleblowers.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:52.440)
At the same time, I think that another tool that intelligence can use is to pose as a whistleblower.
Unknown Speaker (00:48:58.440)
You know, to borrow a phrase, flood the zone with maybe false information or misleading information, partial, partial truth.
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And, and it's our job as the audience to discern that, you know.
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So I don't, I don't consider it necessarily disqualifying if somebody is a whistleblower, was in government or intelligence.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:16.440)
But I think they do deserve an extra bit of scrutiny or at least those connections.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:20.440)
Well, I think with the UFO stuff especially lately, that stuff's been clearly this info lately.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:26.440)
Oh, all day long.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:28.440)
Well, and that stuff that only ever comes from the Pentagon.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:31.440)
You know, there's no UFO stuff that comes from anywhere else other than the DOD, the security apparatus, people like Harry Reid.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:37.440)
I'm sorry?
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It was a complete spook.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:39.440)
You know, he was the one who was pushing that in the Senate for a long time.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:43.440)
So, so that's exactly it's a case in point.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:45.440)
It's like you can have whistleblowers.
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You can have people that are legitimately breaking with the system, class traitors, whatever you want to call it.
Unknown Speaker (00:49:53.440)
But then you also have this kind of other dimension.
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You have a parallel track that they run where they pose as the conspiracy theorist.
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They pose as the dissident.
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And, you know, and that's not always the case, but sometimes it is.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:07.440)
And that's why, like you say, you have to judge them by their fruits.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:10.440)
And by that, people try to say that, you know, you're a Fed for the Southern Broadway Law Center or the ADL.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:16.440)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:17.440)
Well, exactly.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:18.440)
And people say that about me.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:19.440)
But the difference is I don't have parents that were in the CIA.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:22.440)
So I know, you know, Tucker Carlson.
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I mean, certainly the government agencies recruit people that don't come from those families either.
Unknown Speaker (00:50:28.440)
That's true.
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But I think that sometimes I get looked at unfairly.
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People will consider me to be, you know, some kind of false entity or some kind of agent or something.
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When you don't look at maybe what's more obvious, what might be right in front of your face.
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The reason I bring up Tucker is because he pushed that about a year and a half ago in an article in the Gray Zone.
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He worked with Max Blumenthal.
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They published a three piece, a three part hit piece.
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It was about 10000 words calling me an SPF, an SPF, CAG and an agent of the federal government.
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And I look at the author of the piece.
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It's Max Blumenthal's wife. Max Blumenthal is the son of a hatchet man for Bill and Hillary Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal.
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So it's like I'm being called SPLC fed by the son of a hatchet man for Bill Clinton.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:13.440)
Well, I wasn't going to go to this area.
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I imagine not.
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So I think I think what's happening here is that these two guys are having a conversation that's beyond what they're actually talking about.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:25.440)
Oh, yeah.
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They're both warning each other that they could call the other one a fad.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:29.440)
One hundred percent.
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Alex is trying to subtly let Nick know that if he gets out of line, he can call him a fad.
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And Nick is letting Alex know that the case is much stronger against him and Tucker.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:39.440)
One hundred.
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Since they both have families that are intelligence people.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:42.440)
Yep.
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This is at its core a propaganda power struggle that you're seeing.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:47.440)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:48.440)
It's like two deer running antlers into each other.
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One hundred percent.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:52.440)
It's fascinating.
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It is a nature documentary.
Unknown Speaker (00:51:55.440)
Yes.
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This is what we are watching.
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We are watching the young buck try and take down the older male for fucking running privileges for the season.
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Yeah.
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One hundred percent.
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I could I could.
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Don't tempt me.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:09.440)
I mean, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:10.440)
You can't more be like, hey, listen, I'm telling you all of these things.
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And if all of these things are true, we both know they're not.
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But if they are true, you are all of those things.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:19.440)
Yeah.
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And Nick is also like demonstrating that, like, he doesn't care about Alex's threat of him calling him a fed.
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He's not afraid of this.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:29.440)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:30.440)
It's very it's very Nick.
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Nick ends up very much winning.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:34.440)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:35.440)
But this is the part of the interview where they're smelling each other.
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Right.
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Right.
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No, I'm one hundred percent.
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I can feel it.
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I can absolutely feel it because Alex is like, I can lie about you.
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And he's like, try me.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:48.440)
Yeah.
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And that's and then Alex is like, I actually don't have anything after lie about you.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:53.440)
That's the Alex Jones problem.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:54.440)
Well, the next step is Alex whining a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (00:52:57.440)
That sounds right.
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And so he complains that a lot of people think that he's like hopium, like he's just given false hope.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:04.440)
Sounds right.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:05.440)
I see a big thing against me and I don't bring this up because I'm being attacked.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:09.440)
I see it a lot and I want people to understand where I come from.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:14.440)
Jones is the ultimate, you know, hopium person.
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He's saying globalism is in big trouble.
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He says we're winning.
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He says the New World Order is in deep trouble.
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And I look at where I've come in 31 years and I look at all these populace being elected and I look at them having to arrest their political opposition, the globalist.
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And I look at going out on the street and all I get to love now, 10 times what it even was a few years ago.
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And that's my gauge.
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And I see Trump doing a lot of good things.
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And I see the public globalism, the New World Order.
Unknown Speaker (00:53:41.440)
I see a new international system forming.
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It doesn't mean A.I. isn't a problem.
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It doesn't mean there isn't a lot of stuff Trump administration is doing that I don't agree with.
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But I mean, overall, we've come so far that I just can't help but say, yeah, we're really turning the tide.
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I think we're starting to win here.
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And that's and I've been doing this a long time when like almost nobody knew about this then when most people weren't even born yet.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:02.440)
We're in diapers.
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And I don't say like, hey, Sonny boy, I mean, I see how far we've moved the ball now.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:07.440)
And I'm just I'm very excited.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:09.440)
Yeah, well, you've earned it.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:10.440)
I mean, you've been doing it longer than anybody.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:12.440)
You've earned the right to say Sonny boy because you're right.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:14.440)
And it's been going on for a long time.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:16.440)
And I agree with you.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:17.440)
I think generally there's a huge cause to be optimistic.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:19.440)
There's a huge cause to be white pilled any way that you can cut it.
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I mean, I think about 10 years ago when I was growing up, it seemed like woke is left is was unstoppable.
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You know, when you think about those Obama years early on or in the middle 2012, 2013, it felt like things were going in one direction forever.
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Always more left wing, always more progressive, always more woke, always more government, more globalist.
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It seemed like it was the end of the world.
Unknown Speaker (00:54:45.440)
They really did.
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And it seemed like that was never going to change.
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Like there was nothing that could even push it off of that track.
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It wasn't even possible.
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And so for us to come this far where Trump has been reelected after January 6th, after covid, the Vax mandate, after the dark winter under Joe Biden.
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Honestly, even though I had my criticisms of Trump and I didn't vote for him for reasons we could get into, it does, I think, give me a lot of confidence and optimism that he was reelected.
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It says something about how the country is fundamentally changed.
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That's a very sad exchange.
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And if Nick were being a little more blunt, he would probably say, your battle's been fought.
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You have no relevance in the future.
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Alex has earned his right to call him young man or sunny boy and to celebrate that wokeness has been beaten back.
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And Elon Musk owns Twitter so he can post slurs now.
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Trump being, he tried to overthrow the government and then he got reelected.
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They've illustrated that the rule of law isn't binding.
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So Alex can just bask in that.
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Go to the hammock.
Unknown Speaker (00:55:46.440)
The problem is that Alex's mood is so erratic that he goes from the devil is about to eat me and there's nothing I can do about it to the globalists are defeated and there's no hope for them ever again.
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From day to day, depending on how he's feeling.
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He's not consistently celebratory or full of hope.
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His messaging is all over the place.
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On a very basic level, Nick knows that Alex is dumb and he's only helpful to the cause so much.
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And he's served most of the purpose that he can now.
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He needs Alex to be a retired elder statesman who fades into the background and lets the next generation carry up the new battles.
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But Alex refuses to go away.
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He needs to be used as a prop.
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The way that Tucker was using him at the show in Philadelphia or Pennsylvania.
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And he's not.
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He's refusing to go away and just be the fucking prophet or whatever.
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It feels like Nick is willing to let Alex call him young man.
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But Alex isn't willing to let Nick call him old man.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:45.440)
You know? That's the issue.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:47.440)
Alex is holding on when he should let go.
Unknown Speaker (00:56:51.440)
Yeah.
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And Nick is...
Unknown Speaker (00:56:54.440)
I mean, it is like the one thing that...
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The irony of what he's saying, right?
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Is that if you are somebody who is into Democratic electoral politics, you should take that as a positive thing.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:09.440)
It did feel, after Obama, like,
Unknown Speaker (00:57:14.440)
Hey man, I think we're just on a roll.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:16.440)
Things are going to get more and more...
Unknown Speaker (00:57:18.440)
We can't have everything we want, but we're getting a little bit closer and a little bit more accepting and a little bit more tolerant and all this stuff.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:25.440)
And then, fuck! We got smashed!
Unknown Speaker (00:57:27.440)
Right?
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And now it feels like, oh, we're just gonna never go and we're just gonna keep fucking getting worse and we're gonna keep fucking getting worse.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:33.440)
And then things will probably go the other direction.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:36.440)
But that's also an incredibly depressing thought.
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Because then, after going for a while, it's then gonna go like, ah, fuck!
Unknown Speaker (00:57:44.440)
You know? That's the problem.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:47.440)
Yeah. That is the problem.
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That is the problem.
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I also think that Nick was trying to comfort Alex a little bit there.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:55.440)
I think so a little bit, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:57.440)
There is a feeling of like, there, there.
Unknown Speaker (00:57:59.440)
You can call me Sonny Boy, that's fine.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:01.440)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:02.440)
You earned a lot, man. You've been great.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:05.440)
Which is, again, these guys are so...
Unknown Speaker (00:58:08.440)
Because it is a nature documentary, I do feel like this is instinctual.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:12.440)
This is not stuff that they are aware of happening.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:15.440)
But what he is doing is saying, look at how magnanimous I can be.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:19.440)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:20.440)
Taking the power dynamic position of the person who is capable of being magnanimous.
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Alex doesn't even know that he's ceded that ground before it's even begun.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:28.440)
But on a less, sort of, underlying basis, this is, on the surface, it kind of looks like Nick bending the knee a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:41.440)
Absolutely.
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And so I think that this satisfies Alex enough.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:45.440)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:46.440)
And so now he jumps into like, alright, can you play ball on Israel?
Unknown Speaker (00:58:52.440)
No! I can't! Why are you trying?
Unknown Speaker (00:58:54.440)
Of course not.
Unknown Speaker (00:58:55.440)
We are not going to do this!
Unknown Speaker (00:58:57.440)
And it's crazy how unwilling he is to play ball.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:02.440)
Well, where I'm at on the Israel thing, or people always saying this guy works for Israel, it's just stupid.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:08.440)
I'm just, I mean, I would be tired of hearing, you know, the same bird out somewhere and go chirp, chirp, chirp forever.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:14.440)
It's nice to hear some birds chirp, but after a while it's just the same thing, same thing, over and over and over and over and over.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:21.440)
And it's just retarded.
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And so, you know, I'm covering geoengineering, they admit they've been doing secretly.
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I'm covering the poison shots.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:29.440)
I'm covering the human trafficking.
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I'm trying to cover it all and then just let people make the decision.
Unknown Speaker (00:59:34.440)
My issue on Israel is, Israel's done a lot of really bad things and I've exposed it, you know, a ton.
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My issue is, is that I don't want to go after Israel, you know, and sit there and make it about Jews, period,
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because I don't see it as one unified group and I think it's more effective to criticize bad policies
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and get everybody against Netanyahu wanting to stay in power for 23 years, wanting a war with Iran,
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that most experts agree will take us closer to a nuclear war than even the Ukraine disaster.
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And Trump is saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, blocking it.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:08.440)
I know from behind the scenes Trump is pissed at Netanyahu and really doesn't like him.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:12.440)
And then I get to hear, oh, he works for Netanyahu.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:14.440)
No, he doesn't.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:15.440)
And I just know the facts and I see the fruits.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:18.440)
Is Trump an enemy of Israel? Absolutely not. Does Trump support Jews? Absolutely.
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And, you know, in general, I support everybody. I don't hate Muslims individually.
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I just know they're not compatible here because their culture is a takeover.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:28.440)
Right. I disagree a little bit.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:30.440)
The thing about the Jewish and Israel topic, the reason that people are preoccupied with it,
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the reason why I'm preoccupied with it is because we do believe that the system fundamentally has a Jewish character
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or a pro-Israel character.
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And so I was thinking about that actually because I hear that a lot.
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People say, oh, all you talk about is Jews, Israel, this, that.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:48.440)
And I think that would sort of be like saying if somebody lived under communism, if someone lived in the Soviet Union,
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all they talk about is how the communists are bad.
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All they talk about is how the Bolsheviks are bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:00:57.440)
Can't they talk about bread prices? Can't they talk about something else?
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And I'm thinking, well, if that's the character of the regime, if the regime is fundamentally of a particular character
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and we're living under it and we want to change it, then we do have to talk about that.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:11.440)
I talk about politics. Politics happens to be colored by a Jewish mafia.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:16.440)
Okay. So Alex is not going to succeed on this front.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:21.440)
I think if you're interviewing this guy and he starts talking about the Jewish character of the world system and all this,
Unknown Speaker (01:01:29.440)
I think you're done. I think that's probably about where you're like, okay, I get it.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:34.440)
This isn't about Israel. This isn't about you hate Jews.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:39.440)
You even said fundamentally. So that means that any conversation we have about anything that doesn't immediately address the quote unquote Jewish character is pointless.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:51.440)
Or it secretly is a conversation about the Jewish character of something.
Unknown Speaker (01:01:56.440)
And by not addressing the fact that you believe that, I'm masking that.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:02.440)
I'm running cover for your antisemitism by pretending this is about anything else.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:08.440)
And man, I think if you're Alex in that situation, you have a responsibility to be like, I'm out.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:15.440)
Yeah, I'm done. Yeah. This is this interview is there's there's nowhere for us to go.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:20.440)
No, I was I was trying to get you to play ball as we have a hundred times before.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:26.440)
And you just threw in my face that you disagree with my position because the system has a Jewish character.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:33.440)
Absolutely. Absolutely. Alex, Lucy is never going to let you kick that fucking ball.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:38.440)
Just just avoid it. Just don't even say, hey, let's talk about Israel.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:42.440)
Don't this dude does not respect you. No, he's an antisemite.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:47.440)
He is trying to steal your seawall roost, man. And he's succeeding in a lot of ways.
Unknown Speaker (01:02:53.440)
So Alex gets to talk in about the Muhammad Khalil moment. Khalil, who is the student who was arrested for protesting.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:04.440)
Right. And he is he pretends that he's concerned about it now.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:09.440)
Oh, we're going to deport Hamas and Hezbollah supporters who aren't citizens.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:14.440)
Great. I say good. But then it's oh, pass a law in New York.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:17.440)
They're trying to pass bipartisan four years in prison for Hamas or Hezbollah flag.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:22.440)
Well, next is the American flag. Oh, all these other laws and outrage on U.S. citizens that are pro Palestine.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:28.440)
So while the left backs it and supports it. Then you've got the same time the ADL supporting the censorship along with Republicans.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:36.440)
They're creating a dialectic to get the censorship through.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:40.440)
And I'm very concerned about the Trump administration supporting this.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:43.440)
And this is definitely another sales pitch for censorship.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:46.440)
So I totally agree that people have their right on these campuses, whatever they want, as long as it's not illegal.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:52.440)
And so they're conflating foreigners here, hyping things up and doing things.
Unknown Speaker (01:03:56.440)
So I think it should be sent out. But but moving that into citizens, very dangerous.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:01.440)
Right. And that is the issue when you look at this, Ahmed Khalil or Mahmoud Khalil, the gentleman who was deported into a prison in Louisiana.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:11.440)
He was actually on a legal visa. He was a student here as a legal resident.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:16.440)
His wife was a citizen. His children were citizens. And this guy is now being deported.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:21.440)
Not because he broke a crime. He's not being charged with anything. Never was convicted of anything.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:25.440)
He's being deported only because he was involved in organizing anti-Israel protests.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:30.440)
Well, he was saying we've taken over the campus and the police are going to stop us.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:34.440)
But he didn't commit a crime.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:35.440)
But see, you can have that opinion. I even disagree with you.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:38.440)
I'm saying they're conflating foreigners with now citizens and trying to pass laws.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:44.440)
And in Florida and places to throw citizens in jail for speech. That's what I see the play being.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:49.440)
I agree it's worse with citizens. That is the bigger problem.
Unknown Speaker (01:04:53.440)
At the same time, would you support people being deported even if they have a legal right to be here as a resident?
Unknown Speaker (01:04:59.440)
Maybe not necessarily as a citizen, but as a legal resident simply because they were involved in anti-Israel protests on a campus?
Unknown Speaker (01:05:06.440)
Not if it's a protest, but that they were taking over the campuses and things.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:10.440)
Yeah, I think it's a fine line though.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:12.440)
Yeah, so that's a very revealing clip because it shows how fake Alex's beliefs are.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:17.440)
He's trying to create the appearance that he's opposed to the government,
Unknown Speaker (01:05:20.440)
deporting people who are here legally just because they've participated in protests that the government doesn't like.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:26.440)
He has to be opposed to that because obviously it sets a horrible precedent.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:29.440)
And his whole career is based on this idea that they're going to repress other people so they can eventually do the same thing to white people.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:36.440)
But his principle is fake. He doesn't care about Mahmoud Khalil, even though this is precisely the situation that he's saying is the one that starts the precedent.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:45.440)
If you have a principle, sometimes it requires taking a hard stance. And that's something Alex is unwilling to do.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:52.440)
He would have to stand up to the Trump administration's very clear abuse of immigration powers in this case, which threatens to shake his whole house of cards.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:00.440)
So instead, Alex just buys the propaganda. He makes excuses for why this case is actually totally cool, and it's not indicative of a slide that threatens everyone's rights.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:10.440)
He's an intellectual coward. Nick is a disgusting piece of shit, but he has one strong advantage over Alex, and that is that he can craft his own positions.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:19.440)
Alex is beholden to his team, so he has to just do this stuff that makes no sense, like hold this position.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:26.440)
Whereas Nick, at least, he's slippery, and obviously he doesn't support this guy because they share an opposition to the state of Israel.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:39.440)
Nick is just willing to try and launder his positions into more respectable spaces in order to convince people who are opposed to Israel's actions, convince them that there's a Jewish character to all this.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:55.440)
Yes, 100%.
Unknown Speaker (01:06:56.440)
That's what he's interested in, and it's obvious, but you know that.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:01.440)
He's doing a debate kid thing, where it's like, oh, this is the correct argument. For this conversation, I can win this argument if I use this argument.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:11.440)
It does not matter if I believe anything that I'm saying. I can win the conversation. In a situation where he would have to then follow through with that principle, he'd be like, fuck that guy, get him out of here. I don't give a shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:25.440)
He also is savvy enough to know when an anti-Semite and a person who's concerned and opposes Israel's actions, when their positions would be the same.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:37.440)
He's savvy enough to understand that, so he can try and sanitize himself for a larger audience.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:44.440)
It's like a pin in chess.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:49.440)
It just becomes obvious when you have this confrontation that Alex is just lost.
Unknown Speaker (01:07:56.440)
You're always going to win in a conversation if you're just like, I am what I'm saying I am. All of my positions will flow from that point.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:06.440)
No matter where we go, we will eventually get back to, I am exactly what I'm saying I am. You're not going to catch me.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:13.440)
The dissonance of Alex's way that he presents himself is just kind of tough to watch. You feel like you want to say stand up for yourself, man. This is pathetic.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:24.439)
But you also realize that he fundamentally actually agrees with what Nick is putting forward. He's not actually not standing up for himself. He's not standing up for his fake character. That I resent.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:37.439)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're watching his character get his ass kicked.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:41.439)
Yes. So Nick gets to talk about the deportations and stuff. And he is of the mind that they're just deporting the wrong people.
Unknown Speaker (01:08:51.439)
Great!
Unknown Speaker (01:08:54.439)
You know, people say we support deporting the foreigners who are supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. That's this big problem. And they say that's part of mass deportations.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:04.439)
The issue is we're not really getting the other deportations. 1500 students have been served a notice by the State Department. It's being run by Marco Rubio. That's who's behind this.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:13.439)
1500 students who are here on a visa have been served a notice. The visa is canceled because they criticized Israel. They were involved in a protest. And people say, well, as long as we're getting them out.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:24.439)
This is happening at the same time that Trump says we need to slow deportations down for migrant workers. He said twice. First in a cabinet meeting. Then he said in an interview.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:34.439)
He said when it comes to these migrant workers that are on farms, in hotels, in hospitality, and other important sectors of the economy. He said we actually don't want to actually physically remove them.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:45.439)
We're going to ask them to leave. We want to get them back on a visa. So it's like the people that came here illegally, who have been here illegally for a long time, who actually have no legal standing to be here. They don't seem to be a priority. They're trying to slow it down. If they're trying to get them out at all.
Unknown Speaker (01:09:59.439)
At the same time, you have very high priority. 1500 people with a legal right to be here. They're being expedited. Their removal is being expedited for no reason other than they criticize the fact that we're supporting this foreign war.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:13.439)
Here's where I'm at though. In general, I see the whole, a lot of the populist conservative space spending half their time on this. I think it's way more dangerous. Trump's saying we're looking to deport citizens to El Salvador. Now that's unconstitutional and that is really bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:31.439)
I agree with that. Then again though, I don't think that's a real policy. That hasn't happened. What is really happening...
Unknown Speaker (01:10:38.439)
They're talking about using the Enemy Combatant Act to do it for regular crime.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:41.439)
I think that's one of those throwaway comments.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:43.439)
Do you think it's him trolling?
Unknown Speaker (01:10:45.439)
I think they're flooding the zone with poo, like Bannon said. I don't know if you'd swear on the show, but they're flooding the zone with a bunch of nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:52.439)
With bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:53.439)
Yeah, exactly. I don't know if you'd swear. Bullshit.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:55.439)
Well, we can cause some. It's just that we have a delay with the radio stations, so then it can't go on too long.
Unknown Speaker (01:10:59.439)
Gotcha. Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:01.439)
I don't think that it's cool to bullshit about that, to troll about sending citizens to foreign prisons.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:08.439)
I think if you have a leader who's trolling about that, they need to be removed from power.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:14.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:15.439)
I think Alex is... I mean, he's even saying that he's deeply concerned about the idea that Trump would suggest that.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:22.439)
Yeah. Like, he has the sense to understand that that would be, uh-oh, uh-oh, we're way past the line.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:32.439)
But he doesn't have the sense to be like, and now I have decided that this guy is no longer cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:39.439)
Like, what if Obama was trolling about, like, I'm gonna put you all in FEMA camps and take away your guns.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:45.439)
JK, just kidding, just trying to get a rise out of you.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:48.439)
Ah, come on, we're just doing jokes. We're just doing jokes here. I'm gonna drone bomb you.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:53.439)
Ah, nah, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:55.439)
Made you flinch.
Unknown Speaker (01:11:56.439)
Yeah, you didn't think I could. Don't talk to my daughters again. Just saying.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:00.439)
This is fucking insane.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:01.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:02.439)
The idea of relating to somebody who's the leader of the free world as a troll, I think is... you've already lost the plot. This is very bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:13.439)
Yeah, it's too far if somebody's like, hey, I don't think that the government should just be able to randomly grab people and send them away from where they live.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:23.439)
And he's like, I agree with that. Then again, you know, like, we're already way past that.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:29.439)
Have we considered that maybe he's clowning?
Unknown Speaker (01:12:31.439)
We're way past that.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:32.439)
Yeah. So, Nick has some good news about Trump, something that he said while Alex has been on air. And I think it's a little misrepresented.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:39.439)
Uh-oh.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:40.439)
I believe that Trump doesn't want war. And you say you know that, and I trust you, I think that's true. Trump has never been in favor of war. He knows how disastrous Iraq was.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:48.439)
My concern with Trump is always that they will drag him into the conflict. And Trump even said this today, so he's cognizant of it. I think he always has been, but he made it overt today.
Unknown Speaker (01:12:59.439)
He said, they will not drag me into a war.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:01.439)
I didn't know that. Is there a video of this?
Unknown Speaker (01:13:03.439)
He said it today, I think, in an interview.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:05.439)
Guys, pull up Trump. They will not drag me into war. Didn't know that.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:08.439)
Yeah, today he said, I will not be dragged. He said, if diplomacy fails, I will lead the charge. He said, but I'd like to meet with the Supreme Leader, and I prefer to make it legal.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:19.439)
By the way, sometimes we take calls, and we'll just go, why aren't you covering this? It's because once I get on air, I get some stuff, but it's kind of like, an hour is like a lifetime.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:27.439)
Yeah, well, and it's a daytime show, so.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:29.439)
Well, guys, go to X. I'm sure it's there. Trump, I will not be dragged into war with Iran. Wow, that is amazing.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:34.439)
It's huge, yeah. And I wanted him to say that during the election. I said, I'm not going to vote for Trump, because I think they'll drag him into a war, and he will.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:41.439)
Well, that was him definitely acting with the Israel hawks like he might. That was a manipulation.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:46.439)
Right. So that wasn't Trump saying that he's all about peace. No. He was more opposed to the dragging part, not the war part.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:53.439)
He was saying that if we're going to war, we're going to be really aggressive about it. Not just coming along because an ally needs us to.
Unknown Speaker (01:13:59.439)
Actually sounds kind of warlike and threatening. Oh well. Maybe he's trolling.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:05.439)
Eh, could be. Oof. So anyway, you gotta take what you can, I guess, and that's...
Unknown Speaker (01:14:09.439)
I mean, hey, I do like the gymnastics you need. So like, linguistically, right? If I say something like, I will not be dragged into war, because I'll jump two feet first, you motherfuckers.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:22.439)
I would assume somebody would take that as a rather pro jumping two feet in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just on, just like, you know, the vibe I'm giving off.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:32.439)
Yeah, and I think that if you're saying like, okay, I'm not going to be dragged into war. I'm diving both feet first. If whatever demands we have aren't met.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:41.439)
I think if you lay that out, you're kind of also giving someone like, oh, there's a roadmap to get to this person going straight to war.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:48.439)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. It seems like maybe you're at least indicating that you kind of aren't, you don't have a problem with it.
Unknown Speaker (01:14:54.439)
When I'm listening to John McCain say yippee ki yi yay, motherfucker, I am not thinking, oh, we're about to go have a good time at a rodeo.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:02.439)
You mean John McClane. John McClane. Did I say John McCain? You did.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:06.439)
Oh man, that would have been more fun. That would have been more fun. That would have been more fun.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:11.439)
So I think one thing that's really important to understand is that Nick is not critical of Israel. He has criticisms of Israel, but he is an anti-Semite.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:20.439)
He hates Jewish people and believes that there's something of a Jewish character in all this. And I have to stress that that is not some misinterpretation that I'm making.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:32.439)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:33.439)
Listen to this clip.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:34.439)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:35.439)
I mean, I want the Jews to live in peace, all this stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:37.439)
I want to decouple.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:39.439)
Look how many Jews are totally pro-Muslim and pro-Palestine.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:42.439)
Right. Yeah. I mean, most people are liberals.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:44.439)
That's where I get the issue about like saying, if you think Jews were teleported to Mars, every Jew on earth, that would handle all the problems.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:52.439)
I think that if that happened, a lot of obstacles to nationalism would disappear. Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:57.439)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:15:58.439)
Who's pushing sentences more?
Unknown Speaker (01:16:00.439)
Well, spend your time on that. Explain what you're saying.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:02.439)
What I'm saying is when you look at, you talk about like the asset managers, the banks, I mean, who runs BlackRock? It's Larry Fink.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:08.439)
So, I think that if you ask somebody, if we sent all the Jews to Mars, would that solve our problems?
Unknown Speaker (01:16:17.439)
And they say, you know what? It would get rid of a lot of our problems. I think you got to shut it down.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:24.439)
You got to shut down the interview.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:25.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:26.439)
This guy very clearly is anti-Semitic.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:28.439)
Oh.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:29.439)
And he's rubbing your face in it.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:30.439)
All right. Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:32.439)
I mean, in a certain way, I respect his position more than I do Alex's.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:38.439)
Well, at least it's a position.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:40.439)
Right. I mean, in this regard, if you say to me, getting rid of all the Jews will solve our problems, I will say as a problem solver, that is not going to solve any of the problems beyond you hating a group of people.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:52.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:53.439)
Right? That's it. So, that's the end of our conversation.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:55.439)
Yeah. Unless we come to blows.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:58.439)
Yeah, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (01:16:59.439)
And then we're going to fight.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:00.439)
So, here's the baseball team that I want, and then you want to send all the Jews to space. So, we are never going to be on the same team.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:08.439)
Yeah. Like, he's a weasel and all that shit, but he's staking his positions in a way that Alex doesn't dare.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:17.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:18.439)
And that makes it much more palatable in a way because I know what to do. I'm going to punch you.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:23.439)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean-
Unknown Speaker (01:17:25.439)
You're not here for words.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:27.439)
The trade-off is the other thing that they're like bashing heads on, like nature documentary style, is if you are Nick Fuentes, you are much more secure, but smaller.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:39.439)
If you're Alex, you can trick more people, but you're always on quicksand. You're always on the edge. You're always trying to get ahead of if anybody finds out that I'm full of shit, you know?
Unknown Speaker (01:17:51.439)
So, this conflict is like, Nick, I'm always going to be more popular than you are, and Nick is like, that's because you're a fake lying piece of shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:17:59.439)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:01.439)
And the tension is interesting.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:03.439)
And it is there.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:04.439)
But it just, I can't stress enough, like all of the signals are there for Alex to understand exactly who it is that he's talking to, and he refuses to like really accept it.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:18.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:20.439)
That's the kind of chokehold they have over the system. Same thing with the ADL. They want Jonathan Greenblatt out, and you say, oh, well, some Jews don't like the ADL. They don't like Greenblatt.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:28.439)
They just want a different chair of the ADL who's going to be better at shutting down anti-Semites. Anti-Semites who say, you know, Jews are loyal to Israel. They support the wars in the Middle East.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:37.439)
So, I'm saying we need to decouple. We need to recognize Judaism hates Christ. It has antipathy towards Europeans, and we need to decouple from them as a civilization.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:47.439)
They could go and be in Israel. That's fine.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:49.439)
So, like, this is not somebody who has criticisms of Israel. This is not somebody who has political points.
Unknown Speaker (01:18:56.439)
This is somebody who believes that Judaism hates Christianity, and we should decouple from Judaism as a society.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:03.439)
This is, this is, you can't pretend to not be talking to the person that you're talking to when they're willing to be this upfront.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:12.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:13.439)
And, pathetic. Pathetic on Alex's part.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:16.439)
I mean, cause, cause the conversation, if you say something like that, we need to decouple and they can go be in Israel, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:19:24.439)
Here's all the things that you're not saying. You're not saying, I will get them away from us.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:28.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:29.439)
Which is going to be a struggle because most of them are people who don't like being sent to places that they're not from. Right?
Unknown Speaker (01:19:35.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:36.439)
Then, you are also implying, until I want what Israel has.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:41.439)
Mm-hmm. Yep, that, I mean, that's, that's an implication.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:44.439)
They're not people to me. So, go be over there until I decide that I'm going to be there, and then you will have to go be somewhere else too.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:51.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:52.439)
It's, I, I, I, I think that it's very obvious what Nick is proposing and what, what his belief system is structured on.
Unknown Speaker (01:19:59.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:00.439)
And for Alex to allow this and not to engage with it head on is cowardly nonsense.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:08.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:09.439)
And so Nick just gets to dance around a bit because he has some points that are fine.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:16.439)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:17.439)
Things like Palantir sucks.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:19.439)
Great.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:20.439)
By bringing this up.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:21.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:22.439)
He makes Alex get in a position where he's defending Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:26.439)
God damn it.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:27.439)
This is such a mess.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:29.439)
In our definition.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:30.439)
Well, I'll say this about Palantir. It's all really the hot thing to say it runs everything and it's so big. It's tiny compared to the other AI companies and defense stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:37.439)
It is trying to make a run at getting a bunch of big contracts.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:42.439)
And so I, and so I'm not defending what it does. My point is compared to all these other big companies, it's tiny.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:49.439)
And that's why you see the left attacking it a bunch too.
Unknown Speaker (01:20:52.439)
So I see a weird alliance with kind of the anti-Israel folks and the left with the Muslims and like Palantir, Palantir, it's the big thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:00.439)
I mean, its contracts are tiny compared to the other stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:03.439)
But what Palantir is, is a privatization of the surveillance state. They work for the CIA. They come from the CIA.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:10.439)
What I've seen is Palantir has been trying to reform the government contracting process.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:14.439)
They're trying to make it more competitive and more efficient. But what they're doing is they're funneling all of our data into the government. Clearview AI is part of that suite.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:22.439)
They ripped everybody's faces off of Facebook.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:25.439)
They're, Palantir is involved in Gaza doing facial recognition so they know which Palestinians to blow up with drones.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:30.439)
And JD Vance is the protege of Peter Thiel, who's the co-founder of Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:36.439)
That's like George Bush all over again. That's like George Bush, head of the CIA, being Reagan's vice president.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:41.439)
So you don't like Vance? I think Vance is awesome.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:43.439)
I think he's terrible. I don't, I don't. First of all, I think he's fake. Everything about him is fake.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:47.439)
His name's fake. His venture capital career is fake. His story's fake. He's a fake Marine. He's a fake populist.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:53.439)
A fake Marine. He did press releases. He wrote press releases and news releases.
Unknown Speaker (01:21:58.439)
Well, I mean, he was over in Iraq. He never said he was a war hero.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:01.439)
Well, he wasn't in combat, but he makes it.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:03.439)
But he's not like Senator Blumenthal that was never out of the country and said he was in combat in Vietnam.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:07.439)
He ran the Toys for Tots program at the Senate. I mean, hold on. I know Vance. I followed him.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:12.439)
He's always said, well, I was just over there in the press. I looked at real heroes. But he was, he was in Iraq.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:19.439)
But he's over there the other week doing a photo shoot where he's shooting guns, act, hoorah, acting like he's some kind of combatant.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:26.439)
He was a journalist in the Marines, which is what they do. This is what these people do.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:30.439)
Well, hold on a minute. So if you go out and shoot guns, you're being a poser now?
Unknown Speaker (01:22:34.439)
I think he's a serious poser. Yeah, I think he's a serious poser.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:36.439)
Really?
Unknown Speaker (01:22:37.439)
Yeah, I think he's a serious poser. Yeah, I think he's a serious poser. Yeah, I think he's a serious poser.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:38.439)
Really?
Unknown Speaker (01:22:39.439)
I think he's a serious poser. Yeah, I think he's a serious poser.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:40.439)
There's like tampon jumps that you put shotguns in the back of a shotgun?
Unknown Speaker (01:22:41.439)
I think so, yeah. I think that's...
Unknown Speaker (01:22:43.439)
I don't think that's fair.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:44.439)
This is sad. This is very sad.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:47.439)
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Alex, you don't think it's fair? Oh, well then. Oh.
Unknown Speaker (01:22:54.439)
Imagine Alex early in his career going to bat for like Carlisle Group or something like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:01.439)
Like he would never have a position like Palantir's actually kind of good.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:08.439)
Absurd.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:09.439)
Right, that's what he has been brought to. And like just pathetically defending the Vice President.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:15.439)
Like what Nick is presenting to Alex is in some ways a mirror of his past self.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:23.439)
And I think Alex should recognize in this conversation I'm useless.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:30.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:31.439)
I'm done.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:32.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:33.439)
I'm defending Palantir. I'm talking about how great J.D. Vance is.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:36.439)
I've got this guy who clearly hates Jewish people.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:39.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:40.439)
But has the iconoclasm or whatever that I had when I was a kid.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:45.439)
And I don't have it anymore. I'm a shill.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:48.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:49.439)
I just... I might as well be on the state payroll.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:53.439)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean it sucks. It's sad.
Unknown Speaker (01:23:58.439)
I mean it's... how about this, alright? Being from sports.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:03.439)
You're from sports I've heard?
Unknown Speaker (01:24:05.439)
I'm from sports. Nick Fuentes is winning.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:09.439)
By a wide margin. Because he's just on better ground.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:13.439)
The only way to win against Nick in this conversation is to stake an even more extreme claim and then reveal him to be fake.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:21.439)
But no, I don't think so. I think that would blow up in your face because I think you'd be like hell yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:28.439)
I would be surprised. I would be surprised. Because here's the thing. If you're a Sith Lord, here's what I was thinking.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:37.439)
The luxury of being a Sith Lord is being like here's how I'm going to solve my problems.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:44.439)
I'm just going to go straight through them with a lightsaber. I don't have to care if like life.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:49.439)
I can just be like hey, you hate Palantir? Sith Lord style? Let's go kill all of them.
Unknown Speaker (01:24:55.439)
You want to go kill all of them?
Unknown Speaker (01:24:57.439)
Oh no, I don't want to go. See, it's like that's what you have. That's the only thing you've got if you're a Sith Lord.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:03.439)
I don't think Nick would have that much of a problem with that.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:05.439)
I would be interested to see.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:07.439)
I don't think that you'd throw him off his game with that.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:10.439)
I think you would.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:12.439)
I honestly think that there's not much you could do to throw him off the game.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:17.439)
What you would have to do is just not do this interview.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:21.439)
Sure.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:22.439)
It's a War Games thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:23.439)
Oh yeah, no absolutely.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:24.439)
The only way Alex comes out successful at all is don't do this.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:27.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:28.439)
Because the foundations of the last like, I don't know, eight, ten years of his career has led him to a point where he can't actually confront what Nick is doing.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:39.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:40.439)
He has built his house on sand and Nick knows that.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:44.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:45.439)
And so he's just the second this interview started he was in a position where he's going to lose.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:51.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:52.439)
In sports.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:53.439)
One of the problems with being a Sith Lord is that their apprentice always mergers them.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:58.439)
Mm-hmm.
Unknown Speaker (01:25:59.439)
Because it's kind of part of the game.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:00.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:01.439)
You're an idiot.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:02.439)
I think that Alex is just, in much the same way he's the archetype of this person who should have died long ago.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:08.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:09.439)
He is also in this interview, Nick is almost refusing to put him out of his misery.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:16.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:17.439)
There is a piece of it that he's being almost too gracious and not just cutting his throat.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:23.439)
I mean, there's a little bit like, I'm bringing you out to demonstrate my dominance for the people.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:29.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:30.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:31.439)
And Alex is allowing that to happen and getting defensive about Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:35.439)
So weird.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:36.439)
It's pathetic.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:37.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:38.439)
You're back to this.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:39.439)
I've looked at the scale of Palantir and it's tiny compared to Deep Seek and all these others and ChatGBT.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:46.439)
I'm not like defending Peter Thiel.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:48.439)
I'm just saying it's like I get it from the liberals and the Israel obsessed, whatever you want to call it.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:56.439)
Just Palantir, Palantir, Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:26:58.439)
They have an enemies list.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:00.439)
They have an enemies list of two to three million people that they've identified as potential violent extremists.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:05.439)
And this is being run by Alex Karp.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:07.439)
Alex Karp said his biggest fear is that Christian nationalists will take over the government and throw him out of a window,
Unknown Speaker (01:27:13.439)
defenestrate him because he's Jewish.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:15.439)
He's running Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:17.439)
Palantir has an enemies list of three million people.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:19.439)
So Alex Karp doesn't like you.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:21.439)
I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:22.439)
I don't know him, but probably not.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:24.439)
But you don't want to throw him out of a window.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:25.439)
I don't want to throw him out of a window, but I don't think he should control Palantir.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:28.439)
I don't think he should control military procurement.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:30.439)
That's my concern.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:31.439)
And Peter Thiel, I mean, he's a suspicious character also.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:34.439)
He says he's a Christian, but he's a gay man.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:37.439)
He says he's a Christian, but he's really involved with this René Girard, who's sort of an interesting philosopher,
Unknown Speaker (01:27:42.439)
who's involved with a lot of the Strausians out there at the Hoover Institute.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:46.439)
These are two guys I don't know.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:47.439)
Yeah, Karp's got a degree, basically, in classical Western civilization.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:51.439)
But what is Western to these people?
Unknown Speaker (01:27:53.439)
You know, according to Harry Jaffa, Western means protecting Israel.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:56.439)
And that's who they're all.
Unknown Speaker (01:27:58.439)
And Vanderladen said that too.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:00.439)
We'll be right back in 60 seconds.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:02.439)
Stay with us. Back to Israel.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:04.439)
Alex can pretend like this back to Israel thing, like he's so annoyed at Nick or whatever,
Unknown Speaker (01:28:10.439)
but he's facilitating this, and that's exactly what he wants.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:13.439)
He just wants to be able to make it look bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:17.439)
And he can't.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:19.439)
He doesn't have the tools to make Nick look like what he is, which is an anti-Semite.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:24.439)
He has to constantly couch this in the Israel-obsessed crowd and stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:31.439)
No, he hates Jews. He hates Jewish people. He hates Judaism.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:35.439)
Right. But that's the thing that Alex can't do, because, again, we just got to the place where he's like,
Unknown Speaker (01:28:41.439)
oh, no, I wouldn't defenestrate him. No, you would. That's an accurate fear.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:46.439)
The reason that guy is afraid is because you, with given the chance, would murder him.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:52.439)
If not you personally, a lot of the people who are in your world.
Unknown Speaker (01:28:56.439)
Yeah, yeah. So by essence, you continuing to hold these positions, were you to get power,
Unknown Speaker (01:29:02.439)
would ensure that this man would die horribly the way he is afraid of.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:06.439)
Yeah. Maybe not specifically a window, but something bad's happening.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:09.439)
Right, right, right.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:10.439)
Yeah, the growth of your political ideology and your worldview, the stronger it gets,
Unknown Speaker (01:29:15.439)
the greater risk of that defenestration happening. It's real.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:19.439)
So then, where does it stop for you? Who doesn't get defenestrated?
Unknown Speaker (01:29:24.439)
You're running into the same fucking problem everybody who thinks defenestrating people is going to solve things runs into.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:30.439)
Which is, you're going to run out of people to defenestrate.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:33.439)
And windows.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:34.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:35.439)
So, I think Alex kind of resigns himself to like, this isn't going well.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:40.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:41.439)
So he wants to just joke around about how Elon Musk has a bunch of kids, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:29:44.439)
That sounds fun.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:45.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:46.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:47.439)
And you may notice, if you listen carefully, or not even that carefully,
Unknown Speaker (01:29:50.439)
you'll notice that Nick is excited about this because they're white kids.
Unknown Speaker (01:29:54.439)
Great!
Unknown Speaker (01:29:55.439)
What do you think of Elon Musk having 15 kids and wanting the population not to crash,
Unknown Speaker (01:30:00.439)
and even Xi Jinping going to a three child policy, ranking with the globalists? I think that's a good thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:04.439)
I agree. I think it's great. I think his advocacy for people to increase the fertility rate is essential.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:09.439)
Because that is at the core of why we have mass migration.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:13.439)
That's why we need population replacement or population refreshment.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:17.439)
It's because the white people aren't having kids.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:19.439)
You know, and in fairness, in order to have a society continue, you need to have new people.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:23.439)
You need to have young people. You need to have kids.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:25.439)
My only issue with Elon is I am against polygamy. I am decidedly against.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:30.439)
Which is something that seems to be becoming more popular for rich people.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:34.439)
Andrew Tate does it. Elon does it. They impregnate a bunch of different women.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:38.439)
I'm in favor of just Trump.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:39.439)
Well, I mean, so did Abraham.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:42.439)
So I mean, the other thing is...
Unknown Speaker (01:30:43.439)
What are we doing now? What is this? What is this?
Unknown Speaker (01:30:46.439)
Christianity and Western civilization really pushed monogamy in the nuclear family. It's been great.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:51.439)
But now women won't go for anybody that's not what they think is super alpha.
Unknown Speaker (01:30:55.439)
And so when we're becoming more primitive, it becomes like one male gets 50 women and the other men don't get any women.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:01.439)
Right. That's kind of how it works.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:03.439)
You're pretty red pilled on. That's some incel. That's some deep incel ideology. But it's true.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:07.439)
Well, but I mean, I don't think the incels are getting any of the women.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:10.439)
No, that's why they...
Unknown Speaker (01:31:11.439)
I'm kind of the opposite. I mean...
Unknown Speaker (01:31:12.439)
No, no, I'm not saying...
Unknown Speaker (01:31:13.439)
I'm not saying I'm getting a bunch of women.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:15.439)
But for whatever reason, if I wanted to, women seem to like me.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:17.439)
You're a Chad. You are. But incels say that's this hypergamous culture. You write about that.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:22.439)
Yeah, and a lot of times when those guys who are pretending they get 500 women or whatever, they're lying.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:29.439)
They're putting on an act and they actually cry when no one's looking about how they don't get with anyone.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:37.439)
Because they've set this expectation for themselves that they are this hyper alpha masculine person in this mold that people like Andrew Tate have created.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:45.439)
And it turns out that's not always a functional way to act.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:50.439)
So, I mean, granted, these guys have just bought into this, I guess.
Unknown Speaker (01:31:55.439)
Hmm...
Unknown Speaker (01:31:57.439)
Yeah, and I think that Nick described it really well. Like, you've bought into the incel.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:02.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:03.439)
You're just an incel person, but you think that you're on the good side.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:06.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:07.439)
The side that gets laid.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:08.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:09.439)
Aren't you getting another divorce, Alex? What the fuck are you talking about? Anyway...
Unknown Speaker (01:32:14.439)
I mean, I don't... What are... This is gross.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:19.439)
It is gross. It is gross.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:21.439)
And I think that Nick is a little bit more interesting than the general conversation you get with Alex because he's saying,
Unknown Speaker (01:32:30.439)
More white babies is good, but I also actually believe in the things that I'm supposed to believe in.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:37.439)
And so, like, polygamy, that's not cool.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:40.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:41.439)
He's conflicted in a way that he should be if his prior, like, baseline beliefs mean something.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:48.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:49.439)
And that's not something you see all the time on InfoWars.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:51.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:52.439)
It's not all lies.
Unknown Speaker (01:32:53.439)
Yeah, because... Okay, okay. Because then we get into conversations like this, all right?
Unknown Speaker (01:32:58.439)
Now, if white people, way back when, had listened to non-white people who were like,
Unknown Speaker (01:33:06.439)
Hey, you should boil your water so you don't die. We would have more white people.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:11.439)
Is that better than if we did what we did, which was kick them all out of the country or murder them instead of boiling our water?
Unknown Speaker (01:33:19.439)
I don't know. I don't want to litigate water boiling.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:22.439)
Right? You don't actually want more white people. You want less non-white people.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:26.439)
That's the conversation that you're really trying to have.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:29.439)
I think that's... I mean, I think Nick wants both.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:34.439)
Sure, sure, sure, sure. That's a fair way of putting it.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:37.439)
Yeah, one is the other relatively.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:39.439)
Right. One's more important than the other.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:42.439)
Sure. Exclusion is more important.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:45.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:46.439)
And I think that's obvious.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:47.439)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:48.439)
So Alex is like, Fuck, Elon's got so many kids. I'm gonna have more kids.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:53.439)
Gross! Why?
Unknown Speaker (01:33:55.439)
And then Alex talks about how cool Elon's sperm is.
Unknown Speaker (01:33:58.439)
Great!
Unknown Speaker (01:33:59.439)
Well, I do. I mean, I don't know. I'm just so busy fighting the globalist.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:03.439)
You know, but I don't know. I have another 10 kids.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:05.439)
Do it. Yeah, yeah. I'll have 10. You have another 10.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:08.439)
I've only got four, so I'm kind of... Elon's way ahead of me here.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:11.439)
Yeah, Elon's ahead of everybody.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:13.439)
Elon even reportedly drops by the sperm bank. He really cares.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:16.439)
Yeah, he's pumping it out there.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:18.439)
He's trying to get a lot of Elon's out there.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:20.439)
That's an exclusive piece of news, folks. I'm not kidding.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:23.439)
He didn't tell me that I know one of the doctors. I was like, well, that's in that hippie village. Well, whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:28.439)
Elon really cares.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:30.439)
Yeah, man, he cares. He cares a lot.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:32.439)
Throwing his sperm around.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:36.439)
That's something somebody says in a horror movie.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:39.439)
Yep. Right? Like, you're in a basement somewhere, and you're on a chair, strapped to that chair, like a doctor's chair,
Unknown Speaker (01:34:47.439)
and somebody's like, oh, man, this sperm? We really care.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:51.439)
Like, that's not how... I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that at all.
Unknown Speaker (01:34:54.439)
Well, like, okay, so if Alex... So he's saying that Elon Musk puts his sperm in a lot of sperm banks.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:01.439)
Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:02.439)
And it's because he cares a lot.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:03.439)
I don't think that's true.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:04.439)
Now, if we are to believe these premises, the conclusion that we come to is that Elon knows that he has real great sperm,
Unknown Speaker (01:35:14.439)
and, like, it's an obligation for him to make it more widely available to people,
Unknown Speaker (01:35:19.439)
because his sperm is just that much better than everybody else's.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:22.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:23.439)
That's fucked up. And the fact that Alex is a third person, like a third party, he's not involved in any of this,
Unknown Speaker (01:35:30.439)
he's doing PR for Musk's sperm. It's crazy.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:35.439)
Wild. Wild.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:36.439)
Good use of time.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:38.439)
It's like...
Unknown Speaker (01:35:43.439)
It's insane men talking about gross shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:46.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:47.439)
In public, which didn't used to happen.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:48.439)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:49.439)
You have to stand around a barrel with a fire in it to get conversation like this.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:54.439)
Or maybe, like, on public access, where Alex belongs.
Unknown Speaker (01:35:57.439)
Right, right, right, exactly. Yes.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:00.439)
So the two of them get to talking about their genetics, because of course...
Unknown Speaker (01:36:04.439)
Because why wouldn't you get there?
Unknown Speaker (01:36:06.439)
Yeah. And I think that there's something very fascinating about this clip.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:09.439)
Okay.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:10.439)
It's a little over a minute long, and a very short bit of it is Nick talking about his genetics.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:15.439)
Great.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:16.439)
And then Alex takes for a fucking ever.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:18.439)
That sounds right.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:19.439)
And I think it's because one of them obsesses about this stuff, and the other is...
Unknown Speaker (01:36:23.439)
tries to hide some of his beliefs.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:26.439)
What are your genetics again?
Unknown Speaker (01:36:27.439)
I'm half Italian, quarter Mexican, quarter Irish.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:30.439)
Alright.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:31.439)
What are you?
Unknown Speaker (01:36:32.439)
What am I?
Unknown Speaker (01:36:33.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:34.439)
Oh, um, yeah. Well you could say am I... Jones, you could say am I that.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:41.439)
That's definitely in my family line.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:43.439)
I'm sorry?
Unknown Speaker (01:36:44.439)
You're supposed to say Welsh.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:45.439)
You have to look at your family line in England from my mom's side, who those people are.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:48.439)
They're related to William the Conqueror, and then Grisham, and then the Stock Exchange,
Unknown Speaker (01:36:52.439)
a bunch of those people, the old, old people that were in charge of England related to them.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:56.439)
So I kind of look like Henry VIII.
Unknown Speaker (01:36:58.439)
And then I'm Alsatian, and other German, going back to noble families in the Austro-Hungarian empire.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:07.439)
And then also a lot of commoners, Scotch-Irish.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:11.439)
Really Heinz 57 on my dad's side, and on my mom's side German and English.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:19.439)
But it's all the same thing.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:20.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:21.439)
But in England and Hilaria, it's all Nordic.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:22.439)
Because you know, the Vikings were constantly invading even before that.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:26.439)
So it's kind of just a whole mix of stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:30.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:31.439)
You're a true northern European, true Northman, true Aryan.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:34.439)
Oh my god, don't say that either.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:35.439)
I know, no game.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:36.439)
No, no, no, no, I'm Jewish.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:37.439)
You didn't know that?
Unknown Speaker (01:37:38.439)
Oh yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:39.439)
Yeah, this is fun.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:40.439)
I mean, that's fun joking around to do after Nick has very clearly revealed that he's anti-Semitic.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:47.439)
Boy, what a fun conversation to have around 1840, whenever there were laws about just one drop.
Unknown Speaker (01:37:55.439)
Well, Alex does, like a couple minutes later, he realizes that he does sometimes talk about how he's a little bit Native American.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:02.439)
Oh no.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:03.439)
So he throws that in.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:04.439)
Uh oh.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:05.439)
He's like, oh, I've got a little Native American in there.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:06.439)
Uh oh.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:07.439)
He forgot about that during the body of the conversation.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:10.439)
Fun how that works.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:11.439)
Yeah, I think that Nick is clearly someone who thinks about this a lot.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:17.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:18.439)
And has a pretty clear answer that has to do with nationalities and the genetics of his racial makeup or whatever.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:28.439)
Whereas Alex is like, I'm related to Gresham.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:31.439)
Okay!
Unknown Speaker (01:38:32.439)
Nobility over here.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:33.439)
He's got like much more of a story to it.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:36.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:37.439)
And I think that's because he wants people to know that he has noble lineage.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:42.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:43.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:38:44.439)
Which is an interesting kind of like two points of view on an ultimately meaningless pointless fact, right?
Unknown Speaker (01:38:54.439)
Like this one is like his, Fuentes's is very mathematical as of like borderline ranking human beings by nationality by blood.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:05.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:06.439)
You know, like it's that kind of math to it.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:08.439)
Whereas Alex has a sort of romantic like, listen, white people are better, but only because of chivalry and shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:15.439)
I don't think that's the case.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:17.439)
I think that Alex in hearing Nick's answer is like, oh shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:23.439)
What do I say that is going to make sure I qualify as white to this guy?
Unknown Speaker (01:39:30.439)
Like what's the whitest thing I could say right now?
Unknown Speaker (01:39:33.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:34.439)
And instead of committing to like one half this or whatever, he goes for like nobility and like all of this famous roots and stuff.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:43.439)
He's trying to be like, not only am I white, I am so fucking white.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:46.439)
If only he did Def Jam.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:48.439)
If only he just slipped into Def Jam.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:50.439)
Be too good.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:52.439)
So we have one last clip here and it's Alex joking about how much he looks like Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (01:39:58.439)
Because it's fun to do that with this guy.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:00.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:01.439)
Who's a fan of Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:02.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:03.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:04.439)
And so they talk about that a little bit and then Alex complains about some criticism that he's gotten.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:08.439)
Oh yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:09.439)
Well it is, it is bizarre.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:11.439)
But it's German.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:12.439)
My mother's father literally would be sitting there with minus the hair looking at him sideways.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:19.439)
It was like, I'm looking at Adolf Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:20.439)
It was pretty, pretty wild.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:21.439)
Wow.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:22.439)
You ever thought of getting into politics, be chancellor or something like that?
Unknown Speaker (01:40:25.439)
Well, unlike Hitler, I'm not a good speaker.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:27.439)
Oh, come on.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:28.439)
You're a great speaker.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:29.439)
1776.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:30.439)
They'll be rolling something.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:31.439)
You know, maybe I'm actually a Hitler clone.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:34.439)
Anybody ever think about that?
Unknown Speaker (01:40:35.439)
You're a Hitler hybrid.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:37.439)
Maybe they brought the sperm over after World War II and froze it.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:40.439)
Hitler-Washington hybrid.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:42.439)
That I can...
Unknown Speaker (01:40:43.439)
Actually folks, I'm going to reveal it to Nick Fuentes.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:45.439)
I am actually not a Hitler clone, but I am 50% Adolf Hitler.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:50.439)
I believe it.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:51.439)
I believe it.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:52.439)
It's actually true.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:53.439)
Actually?
Unknown Speaker (01:40:54.439)
Yeah, like, well, you know, Musk says he's a space alien.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:58.439)
And I think that's actually true too.
Unknown Speaker (01:40:59.439)
But I am actually, Adolf Hitler was my father, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:02.439)
That explains a lot.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:03.439)
That's why you're such a compelling, that's why you get the people going.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:05.439)
Well, that's why the left's so scared, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:07.439)
It's true, they know it's coming back.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:09.439)
Well, here, you ever want to read a Hitler?
Unknown Speaker (01:41:11.439)
You just did.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:12.439)
How you doing buddy?
Unknown Speaker (01:41:13.439)
Nice to meet you.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:14.439)
That's a giant joke.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:15.439)
I just, I'm also Bill Hicks.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:17.439)
Pretty ridiculous.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:19.439)
I think you are a little nervous laughter.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:21.439)
I think we just, I think we just revealed the big secret.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:24.439)
No, I love, I love, I love starting in the Ridiculous Conspiracy.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:27.439)
I love these people that literally go, this is a guy from Norway or Sweden.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:32.439)
No, he's not from the Netherlands.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:33.439)
I forget his name.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:34.439)
And he's like, Alex Jones is not real.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:37.439)
He has been replaced.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:39.439)
I am an artist of the greatest quality.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:41.439)
I have, I have painted for the king of the Netherlands.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:44.439)
And I can tell you, it is not the same man, not the same soul.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:49.439)
He has been replaced.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:51.439)
Yeah, some random weirdo in the Netherlands.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:53.439)
Alex feels like he should respond to some of that criticism.
Unknown Speaker (01:41:57.439)
Because Alex only likes fucking dumb shit criticism.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:01.439)
He doesn't like, he was not going to handle anybody who has serious criticism of him.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:05.439)
No, no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:06.439)
This is pathetic.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:07.439)
No.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:08.439)
He got on like Osenpik or some shit and he lost a bunch of weight.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:10.439)
And people on the internet were like, oh, he was replaced by a clone.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:13.439)
No one is actually, no one actually thinks that.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:16.439)
There's no, there's no danger to playing around with these criticisms.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:20.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:21.439)
But he hangs up on people who bring up our, our name.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:23.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:24.439)
On his show.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:25.439)
Yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:26.439)
Fuck you.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:27.439)
The name that shall never be spoken.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:28.439)
Fuck you.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:30.439)
Some random person in the Netherlands.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:32.439)
You're whining about that to your Nazi buddy.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:35.439)
There is something to be said about being a boogeyman.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:38.439)
I never thought I would enjoy it quite so much, but there is something to be said about it.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:41.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:42.439)
No, no, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:43.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:44.439)
It's not too bad.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:45.439)
It's not, it's not satisfying in some ways.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:48.439)
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:50.439)
You can't, cause you're under the bed.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:52.439)
And if they don't come under the bed, you can't get them.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:54.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:55.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:56.439)
You can't jump scare someone who doesn't open the door.
Unknown Speaker (01:42:58.439)
You gotta open the door, man.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:00.439)
We're hiding behind the door.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:01.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:02.439)
And I think that this speaks to like my strategy when I would play poker.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:06.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:07.439)
All the time.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:08.439)
I would be good at playing poker, but one of my moves was a check raise.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:12.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:13.439)
Because I would underplay a lot of times my hand.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:16.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:17.439)
And then get someone to raise and then re-raise them.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:20.439)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:21.439)
And if the person didn't raise, then I can't set the trap, you know?
Unknown Speaker (01:43:25.439)
That's not how it works.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:26.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:27.439)
And so.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:28.439)
There is one side step.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:30.439)
You can side step.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:31.439)
Just laying under this bed.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:33.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:35.439)
I think Alex's approach to humor, like one of my favorite bits is by Dana Gould.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:42.439)
It's the black dolly a bit.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:43.439)
And it is a premise that goes on for about four and a half minutes for one perfect, beautiful punch.
Unknown Speaker (01:43:51.439)
And like the extension of the premise, the way that it's told, the compelling nature of the story,
Unknown Speaker (01:43:57.439)
and then the retention release of just that short burst.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:01.439)
That short punch is so wild that you laugh for three minutes.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:05.439)
It's amazing.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:06.439)
Or like the Forget-A-Buddies.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:07.439)
Right, right, right, right.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:08.439)
I can't imagine the idea of a premise that's one line and then the punchline being five minutes long.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:15.439)
Well.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:16.439)
And that's about what we heard.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:17.439)
There's a reason that some people have risen to the top of humor.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:21.439)
The craft and others are interviewing a Nazi.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:25.439)
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:26.439)
That's why Alex didn't get a Comedy Central Presents.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:29.439)
That's probably right.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:30.439)
Special.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:31.439)
Never wrote for The Simpsons.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:32.439)
He did open for Stanhope that one time.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:34.439)
That is true.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:35.439)
I don't know if, I don't think Gould ever opened for Stanhope.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:38.439)
Hey.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:39.439)
That's what happens when you start at 16.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:41.439)
Right.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:42.439)
Alex got the resume.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:43.439)
Yep, yep.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:44.439)
So anyway, we'll be back with another episode of This Here Podcast.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:47.439)
Indeed.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:48.439)
But what a piece of shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:50.439)
What a piece of shit.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:52.439)
Anyway, we'll be back, but until then we have a website.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:55.439)
I see, we do.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:56.439)
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:57.439)
Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Leo.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:58.439)
I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
Unknown Speaker (01:44:59.439)
I am the mysterious professor.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:01.439)
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:04.439)
And now here comes the sex robots.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:06.439)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:08.439)
Thanks for holding.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:09.439)
Hello, Alex.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:10.439)
I'm a first time caller.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:11.439)
I'm a huge fan.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:12.439)
I love your work.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:13.439)
I love you.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:14.439)
I love you.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:15.439)
I love you.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:16.439)
I love you.
Unknown Speaker (01:45:17.439)
I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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I love you.
