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[MUSIC PLAYING] It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge, right? Knowledge, right?

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.

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Chang, me, are the bad guys.

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Knowledge, provide.

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Dan and Jordan knowledge, fight.

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I need money.

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I need money.

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Well, we're back.

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Andy and Tanzos.

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Andy and Tanzos.

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Stop it.

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Andy and Tanzos.

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Andy and Tanzos.

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[MUSIC PLAYING] Andy and Tanzos. It's time to pray. Andy and Tanzos,ï¿½ â™ª Andy and Tanzis â™ª â™ª Stop it â™ª â™ª Andy and Tanz â™ª â™ª Andy and Tanzis â™ª â™ª Andy and Tanzis â™ª

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â™ª Andy and Tanzis â™ª

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â™ª Andy and Tanzis â™ª

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â™ª You're only here playing for all of us â™ª

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- Hello, Alex, I'm a good friend of all of you,

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and I love your world.

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â™ª Knowledge fight â™ª â™ª N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n Welcome back to knowledge. I'm dad. I'm Jordan work a couple dudes. I sit around Where's put the ultra-sleeing and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan

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Dan Jordan quick question for you. So what's up? What's up? What do you bridespot today buddy? Well, you go first

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My bright spot is a new album by Bayroot. Okay. I can't remember the name of it right off the top of my head

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But yeah, it's great. It's pretty good. I am aware of the band Bayroot band Beirut, but I don't know if I know anything past the name.

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- It is like, what would I say?

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It's like an NPR's wet dream.

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Like it's an indie band inspired by Balkan folk music.

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So you're like, yeah, of course.

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It sounds a little bit like if Les Misérables

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kept writing songs on its own. - The play itself, the musical itself, just kept genre-ing itself into other

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different songs and then there you are. I'm sure it's great and I'm glad you're

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enjoying the album but you've done a bad job of selling it to me. I don't want to

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sell it to anyone. Okay that's very NPR indie band of you. I mean I don't know

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if it's I don't know if there's a way to sell it to you other than like

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If you have an inkling of Balkan folk music within your heart, you're gonna like it. Okay, I guess

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It's a good test for whether or not you have an inkling of Balkan folk music in your heart

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I think it's a perfect test. All right. I'll check it out. Absolutely. I will it's the PCR of

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Perfect test. All right. I'll check it out. Absolutely. I will. It's the PCR of Vulcan. Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. You everybody needs a TV test. Everybody needs to know if

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they're related to Balkan folk music and some fashion. Yeah. Yeah. Great. What's your bright

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spot? So me and my friend, Angela Lampsbury, went out to the paper machete over at the

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Green Mill. Yeah. The other day.

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And I got to experience what it's like to do that

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with a pinky ring.

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And it was fine.

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It was fine.

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No, it was a lovely time.

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It was a great, great show.

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Very enjoyable.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Shored up too early, ran into you on the street.

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Yep, that was interesting.

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It's always weird to meet anybody that you know in the wild

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for some reason.

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Well especially because I think you and I both have very limited social circles.

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And so I'm hanging out with my friend going to the green mill.

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And I happen to run into the only other person I know.

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What the fuck is happening?

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Timing is very coincidental.

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It was great.

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So anyway, it was a good time

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I enjoyed it by pinky ring was not commented upon by anybody hmm so great

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I'm fitting in I imagine if you were still a comic back in the old days and

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you were on the show I would have been constantly been mentioned I would have

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been getting roasted a lot absolutely yeah Absolutely. - Yeah. - Especially if I brought it up as much as I had.

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- Totally, totally.

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- Yeah, it would have been a nonstop rosy,

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but now that you're just a person,

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why would anybody be mean about the affectation

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that you enjoy?

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- And also, you know, WrestleMania is going on.

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And Triple H was inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.

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And so he came out--

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- The Hall of Fame? - You bet. - There we go. - So he came out into the Hall of Fame this year. And so he came out. Ha ha ha Hall of Fame.

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You bet. There we go.

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So he came out with the Hall of Fame class.

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And he had his Hall of Fame ring on his.

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Oh, it is pinky.

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But exactly.

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It's catching fire.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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I'm on the Vanguard of trends.

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The Sopranos trends, I guess.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

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All right.

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And we'll see what happens. But have an episode to go over all right and

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We'll see what happens But before we get to anything let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks

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I think that's a great idea so first you guys are so kind the buttons are so nice

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How could I not become a walk after that Michael P? Thank you so much your now policy won't I'm a policy won't thank you very much

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Thank you next Alex's pregnant pauses are too long and should be aborted. Thank you so much, your now, policy walk.

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I'm a policy walk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. And Lord Rothschild of the Pez.

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Thank you so much, your now, policy walk.

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I'm a policy walk.

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Thank you very much.

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I go. And we got a technocrat at the mixed Jordan.

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So thank you so much to Redbeard of House Gershman requests that you tell Liam

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that he only needs to apply a fake mustache to double his income.

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Also, Melanie, you're the best wife ever. Dan, also use your Dan voice to explain that

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charcuterie is just launchables for adults to Jordan. Jordan, stay angry. Mike up for this.

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Thank you so much for your now, technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars. Don't hump your mind and tell it you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomites sent me a book in a poop. Daddy shark.

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Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action

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He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ

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Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. It's charcuterie. Yeah, he's just

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Lunchables for adults. Okay. Does that mean that wine is just caprice on? Hmm

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It depends on what exactly crudite is hmm

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Is it a charcuterie? Well, well right, but is crudite is like vegetables right right?

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Right. So cutery is like sliced meats and crackers and there we go

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- Shakudari is like sliced meats and crackers and-- - There we go.

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(laughing)

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- They're similar words.

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- Right, right, right, right, but if Shakudari is

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Lunchables and wine is Capri Sun,

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what does that make crudite within this--

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- Uninvolved.

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- Uninvolved.

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- I feel like these three are very similar things.

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- Just because the name to the words are similar?

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- No, like at restaurants, you would have a charcuterie board,

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you could have an appetizer of crudetail,

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you could get a glass of wine, these are very regular things.

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- Yeah, but you could also get chicken fingers,

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you could also get a--

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- Well, then what are chicken fingers?

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- Get a burger, I don't know.

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- Okay.

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- It's food and food, yes.

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(laughing)

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Great.

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- This fact that these sound similar,

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these words sound similar, is actually more relevant than you could possibly know about

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the... -About today's episode.

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-Yes. -Right.

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-So I made a joke at the end of our last episode that my birthday is coming up this week

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and as a gift to myself, I don't even want to think about Alex, I don't want to talk about him.

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-Yep. -And I meant that as a joke joke but you responded well to it and then

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when I was hanging out with Angela Lipsberry she responded well to it too

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yeah and thought it was a good idea yeah and so I decided fuck it yeah no more

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Alex episodes and tell her I'm 41 done yeah I'm all for it so that left me in a

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position where I was like all right let's, let's do some more talker. - I sure.

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- We had to do that to me.

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- No, it's a lot.

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- Yeah, I can't, I cannot, he's just too much.

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I enjoy listening to it and I enjoy how much more

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there is to think about and how much more

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of a passive aggressive dick hole he is.

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- Sure.

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- But I can't do that to the audience.

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So I needed to do something different.

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- Okay.

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- And it happens, it just so happens

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that we're recording on Easter.

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- True.

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- This is Easter Sunday that we're recording.

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- He is risen.

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- And that is what happens on Easter.

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- Yes.

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- People rise from the dead.

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- People do rise from the dead?

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- Yes. - Okay.

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- So I thought like, let's do a project Camelot.

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- Absolutely.

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- Can't do it. - Shit. - Yeah, it's not fun anymore. So then I was like let's do a project Camelot. - Absolutely. - You can't do it.

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- Shit.

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- Yeah, it's not fun anymore.

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So then I was like, "Oh, Jim Baker."

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- Anybody rise from the dead?

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- Well, no, but that's a thing we don't do anymore.

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- True.

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- It's rising from the dead this bit, this thing.

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- Oh, I gotcha.

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I was actually thinking that it's possible

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we could be talking about somebody

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who has claimed to have risen from the dead today.

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- No, that's, if that had been there, yes.

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I would definitely-- - Okay, definitely.

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- Totally, no, I'm just saying

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that we're in the realm where that's a possibility.

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- Yeah, no.

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- The Jim Baker episodes that I stumbled across

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were uninspiring.

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- That's true.

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- But there was one last thing that could be risen

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from the dead.

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- Do not, do not play it.

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Do not play that song.

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He lives.

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Do not do it.

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[MUSIC PLAYING] [Music] *Cue the music*

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It's sort of a song.

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I'm gonna be honest.

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*Cue the music*

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I was hoping for Lionel.

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*Laughing*

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*Cue the music*

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*Cue the music* you're listening to the hour of the time on your host William Cooper yeah Bill

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Cooper's back all right yeah all right so maybe excited yeah sure yeah we got

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we got this ass so I I now having experience sitting through it here yeah

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I shouldn't have played that whole siren intro not at all it's a little too long too long. You can edit it out. No, I'm not going to. I'm gonna let it be.

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Okay. But I just want to make that note for myself. Okay. Unnecessary. Marching

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sounds and dogs barking. I think it was meant to be a little bit of a

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record scratch moment. A little beat drop, a little like now you know what

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you're in for kind of thing, but that happens in a moment.

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It doesn't last for, yeah.

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- And it sets the mood for him,

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but that's not the mood I necessarily enjoy all that much.

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- Nope.

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- So yeah, Bill Cooper, the OG Alex.

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- Yep.

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- I, many, many years ago, a number of years ago,

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we covered some Bill Cooper episodes,

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and they were a lot of fun. His call ins were ridiculous. Trying to buy a gunner or no, yeah. He wanted

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to buy his own new service. He wanted to buy the whole thing. If everybody gives a dollar,

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we can do it. Yeah. And he's a bit of an, you know, more interesting character than

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Alex in a lot of ways for one, he's dead. Yeah. He went out like conspiracy theorists are are

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the narrative is supposed to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's killed by the government. I mean they're

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prone to that. He of course wrote the book Behold a Pale Horse that is full of complete bullshit.

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Nonsense that lays a lot of the groundwork for a lot of conspiracy belief. - Run a lot of people's lives, yeah. - It centralizes a lot of really dumb ideas.

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- Yeah.

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- So he is a legend in that world.

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And he, on his radio show, did a series called Mystery Babylon.

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- Okay.

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- That is like a 30-something part series.

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(laughing)

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And I joked a long time ago,

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"I'm gonna fucking cover Mystery Babylon. I'm gonna fuck around and do it."

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And so I'm covering the first episode today.

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You're fucking around and doing it.

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I don't know if I'll do all of it.

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Sure.

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But I decided, "Why not? You gotta resurrect something. I'm gonna resurrect Bill Cooper describing the mystery religion."

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I think it's perfect.

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And I'll give you two reasons why I think it's perfect.

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Uh, the first is

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alex needs to be on the back burner for a sec

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uh... and the second is it does feel like every year

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the past gets like ten years further away mmm it feels like bill cooper is so

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much further in the past than he was five years ago you know yeah but at the

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same time i think if you listen to some of this shit, it's like, this

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is unfortunately relevant right on time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, you're talking about like a world now in 2025 where, you know, Tucker got attacked

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by a demon, right?

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And Alex is like this really esoteric religious bullshit underlies his politics.

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Yeah.

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Like we're looking into the mystery Babylon

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that Bill Cooper did, it's pretty close.

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- God, I would give anything for him to have just

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saved Gene Hackman's life once.

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- Yeah.

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- Like for him to just tell a story of just like,

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oh, this guy was broken down and he almost got swiped

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and I fixed his car and all this stuff and moved on. And then for later later on Gene Hackman to tell us a story where that's about Bill Cooper fucking amazing

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It'd be amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. If I find that I will

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Probably end it. Yeah, I think we should just call it. We should just call it a day. We did it

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I have to walk it. I have to walk into the woods

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Stones in our pockets

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So bill starts this series off and

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I think he has a lofty premise

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Tonight ladies and gentlemen We begin with the origin the history the dogma and the identity of the ancient

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Mystery religions which are now known as the mystery schools the order of the ancient mystery religions which are now known as the Mystery Schools,

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the Order of the Quest, Freemasonry, the ancient Order of the Rose and Cross, the Knights Templar,

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the Sovereign and Military Order of the Knights of Malta, the Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, the Priory Decion, the Thule Society, or sometimes known as the Thule Society,

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the Order, the Skull and Bones, the Russell Trust, the Jason Society, the Srollentee, the Illuminati, and I could go on and on and on and on. But the most important thing to realize

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is that they all have been collectively known throughout the ages as the mystery

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schools. The Illuminati, which literally means "alumined ones,"

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international socialism, communism, they are all one and the same as you will come to know.

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So lofty premise. Yeah.

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International socialism and communism is the same thing as all of these secret societies

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that go back to the mystery religions and time immemorial. Yeah That's a pretty big claim. Yeah, and you kind of get the sense of why he needs 30 episodes in order to spell a lot of this out

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Yeah, that's crazy

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That's a crazy amount of stuff to bite off

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Yeah, you're gonna have to connect a lot of stuff that is really

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Unconnected and not not least of which I don't know if anybody has full claim to just the order

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You know what I mean?

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Like he's calling the order at completely seven.

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There's probably at least five or six the orders.

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Sure.

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You know, if you check the fossil record, you're not going to know if that's a stegosaurus or not.

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So you never know.

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You know, it's my order.

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What's that?

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Sharkudori, Kurette.

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Fuck you.

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I see.

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So Bill starts off at the beginning as we all must.

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Yeah.

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And he establishes that the mystery schools believe in evolution.

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Okay.

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But we have to begin in the beginning with every story and every history.

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And we have to begin at the beginning of mankind.

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And the beginning is the beginning according to the mystery religion.

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And they believe wholeheartedly that man is a product of evolution,

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not of an extraterrestrial race, and not of the creation of some benevolent God.

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They believe that the tree-dwelling ancestors of man were among the most intelligent beings of their distant age.

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And when these creatures finally abandoned the trees and walked fully upright,

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freeing their hands to serve as implements of their minds as well as their bodies, there began the most successful evolutionary drive toward higher intelligence ever witnessed

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in nature.

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As ground dwellers, these creatures were easy victims of the great predators who hunted them

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down by day and surprised them at night as they huddled in clearings or in caves. They could not compete in strength, ferocity, or speed with their attackers.

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Armed with little except their hands and what their complex brains enabled them to do with

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those hands, they had to think or die.

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For untold thousands of years, most of them met early, violent deaths. Only a few, in each

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generation, had the good fortune and the ability to outwit their enemies. And these favored

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ones survived long enough to have a rear off-screen. The unwary Malagroy are stupid.

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Died early.

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And post I'm afraid that the stupid who live today are going to die.

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Nice.

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But back to the beginning.

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Yeah, back to the beginning.

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Boom.

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So, yeah, man's ancestors came down from trees and it's dangerous down there.

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And so they had to do stuff.

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They had to figure it out.

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You know, what's funny about this is I was actually literally reading a book on

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the extinction of the Neanderthals this morning, which is really interesting.

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But also what I was thinking about was this guy in particular doesn't

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believe that homo

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sapiens and Neanderthals interbred because we didn't live in the same exact areas or

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in the same time periods because of climate or whatever.

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When you say this guy, you mean the person who wrote the book, Dr. Bill?

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Yeah.

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He's like the Harvard guy.

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Sure.

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He's one of those guys who travel the world and is Harvard guy.

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That kind of thing.

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But we shared a common ancestor 135,000 years

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ago. So that's why we have similar DNA. Now, then I was thinking, if we did interbreed,

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and that means that we could have interbred to create more people ostensibly with souls,

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does that mean that the Neanderthals had souls when they interbred with us? Right. Do you want me to answer as me or as

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Bill as anybody? I'm not sure souls exist. Right. So but then

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that has to go back even further to when we had a common

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ancestor. If we didn't integrate and they do have souls.

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Right. So what common ancestor developed the soul? It's a

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good question. Is this book you're reading arguing about soul possessions? Absolutely not. This is completely separate

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to that. Okay. No, it's very, very scientific. Okay. It's really good. It's a really well

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written book. I would be worried if the person who is from Harvard is writing a book about

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whether or not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Not a common ancestry. Not at all. Where did the soul diversion have it? That's what I'm saying. They don't think about things like this. They don't think about the implications of the soul on whether or not different species can interbreed.

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Because if you if only Homo sapien has a soul, then we can make like say late some sort of claim to this kind of religious thinking. But if Neanderthals also have souls souls what doesn't have a soul my man well here's the thing bill doesn't believe in

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evolution

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i don't think that i think is probably where he and i was that

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man was created by a benevolent god well they go here he he does a couple

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times throughout this episode and have to make the

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qualifier that like don't get mad at me about the things i'm saying i'm

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explaining other people's belief, the mystery Babylon

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religion, I'm explaining that.

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I'm not talking about what I believe.

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Right, right, right.

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And even in that clip, you heard him say they believe that man wasn't brought by alien

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or brought by, you know, benevolent God.

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This is Alex doing the, ah, this is what they believe.

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I'm not saying that there are interdimensional beings who appear inside it.

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Actually, there are, but that's what they believe and i also believe it yeah alex

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alex took a little bit of that uh... ash here

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so i i think that bill is a decent storyteller i like it and as much as

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he's going through early history uh... and discussing innovations like the

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creation of the knife

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the edible that's too hard for even cavemen to crack between his teeth.

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Accordingly, it was useless to early man until some genius of his day discovered that

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any net could be opened if it were just placed upon one stone and struck hard with another. Better fed the family of this innovator, proliferated, while the others died

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off. Perhaps centuries later, while a man's fat-cracking nuts between two stones on stone

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broke and the broken edge cut his hand. Previously, men in the same situation had thrown the broken stone away and nursed their

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cuts.

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But this man, this man started thinking.

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He possessed an original thought.

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Since the edge had cut through his skin and drawn blood, it might also cut through the

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skin of the small animal he caught,

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making it easier to get at the meat. The first knife was invented.

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I don't know if this follows the archeological record or anything, but it's a fine dramatization

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of this, like, earliest. Perfect. Absolutely. I got no qualms with it like I wouldn't

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want this as like a like a classroom setting yeah for like like archaeology

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yeah yeah yeah but it for his purposes I'm fine yeah a guy cut his hand when he

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was trying to open a nut boom we got our we got a knife I'm with you I loved

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the opening of space Odyssey I'm fine that. Give me some bones smash it monkeys

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I'm good. We're good move on well, unfortunately he doesn't oh because there's a bunch it goes on quite a while

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He takes a lot longer. Yeah, he discusses a lot of things like the invention of the spear a

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Greatly centuries later a young father forging for his brood may have trouble finding long, straight, stick splintered at one end.

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Well he pulled and chewed at the splinters and told only one stout point was left, or

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at least that's how we can imagine that it was dead.

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It seemed to him a very useful stick, where it was sharper than the digging sticks which the women used.

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He may have remembered a night during his boyhood when a great cat had charged his family's

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campsite and dragged away a younger sister.

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Now that he had small children of his own, the memory of that attack was ever present. Lately he had seen fresh panther tracks.

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Another family not far away had been attacked and the mother had been killed.

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His donning, intelligence told him his pointed stick might be a better weapon against big

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cats than the clubs which he and the other men carried.

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So for many days he kept the long stick near him, even when he was laughed at for having what was regarded as a woman's tool.

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Not only did he possess a greater intellect than his fellow men, but he possessed more courage to resist their laughter.

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Then one night he heard a faint rustling. He whispered a quick warning to his family. Suddenly

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a dim shake charged at him in the darkness, kneeling, he raised the point of his long

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stick toward the beast. Its frank clawed at him savagely, and fled. The creature had struck the point so hard that the blood end of the stick was shoved

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deep, deep into the ground.

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Next morning, following a trail of blood, the man found a panther dead from a punctured

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chest.

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The long, sharp stick has saved his life, and the lives of his family members.

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In the same situation, less perceptive men armed only with clubs would have been killed.

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From that time he, his sons, and their sons carried impings sticks whenever big predators were near smart.

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So eventually this ancestors of

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the guy who cut his hand on a

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rock, John made a knife, he

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bred with the person whose

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family made the spear and then

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they started throwing sticks.

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That's right. Yep. Arrows and

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stuff. Yeah, you get the sense

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you get the general sense of

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what he's I like the idea that

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somewhere in the fossil record is like, oh, and ugg wasn't allowed to play in the reindeer games.

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Also, like there's there's people like bullying you for having a stick. Is that what's happening?

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That is a woman's view. Right? What? What? What? What?

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Well, that's the thing though is like I think it's dumb and whatever,

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but I get it, it's dramatizing this thing

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that Bill is trying to convey,

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and I don't begrudge it too much.

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I think without it, this becomes a little too dry,

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and maybe it's already quite dry.

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- Yeah, no, I mean, I both see why it needs 30 parts,

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and also I think we could probably bang it out in 10. would like to say like if you wasn't dead. I would like to just be like cut off the fat

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What's the point? Let's get to it. Stop it with this. Yeah, I've placed this to be and you're telling me you're going on for eight minutes

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About a fucking spear. Yeah, somehow you've invented bullies. Mm-hmm great

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So throughout all this man creates sharp things sure and can fight off panthers hell. Yeah in stuff

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But they come to a realization radio. No, that's that's episode way later. Okay. They come to the realization that man's greatest enemy is

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the darkness

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darkness. Okay.

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Even with man's new weapons and rules.

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It devotes spears before life.

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It did not take him very long to decide that in this world this single greatest enemy to

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be feared was the darkness of night.

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And all the unknown dangers that came with it simply stated man's first, was darkness.

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Understanding this one fact alone, one can readily see why the greatest and most trustworthy

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friend of the human race could ever have was, by far, Heaven's greatest gift to the world

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that glorious rising orb of day, the sun.

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I was going to go with dogs. And with this simple truth understood we can now begin

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to unravel. The most ancient and still the most remain hidden from the rest of the people.

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But first let me assure you folks that no people of the ancient world believe the sun

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to be God.

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Oh, that's a relief.

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Wait, they didn't?

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No.

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Why not?

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Because they didn't. I kind of think they probably did. Or, that's a relief. Wait, they didn't? No. Why not? Because they didn't. I

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kind of think they probably did. Or at least some might have. Yeah, I don't know. Bill

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Bill's take on it is that it's all a metaphor. Gotcha. Sons of metaphor for God. You know,

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right? We'll get to that. Sure. But the darkness is man's enemy. Yep. I don't think we needed all of the spear and knife talk to lead up to that.

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I think we could have just started from man is scared of dark.

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Yeah, it was a little bit of a rug pull to have all these other fears that a man solves first.

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Like a hamper. Yeah, but then to be like, "Ah, but that one, all of that is meaningless."

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So, if something, just my personal opinion on writing is if I at the end of something

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go all of that was meaningless that also means I could just get rid of it.

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Yeah but I think on some you know to be an advocate for Bill I think some of it is

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setting the stage. Sure. It's dramatic build up in a little in a little ways. I get we overcame

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these things but we can't overcome the dark darkness

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Is it's just gonna keep being there and that's where like the big cats?

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Come from right is the dark. It's a metaphor the Sun is God because it's the light the darkness is evil because it's the darkness

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The things come out of the darkness they kill you you can see shit coming in the Sun

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I get it and he kind of he expands on that metaphor a bit here about how the sun is a proxy for God.

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And point of fact, every ancient culture and nation on earth have all used the sun is the most logically appropriate symbol to represent the glory of the unseen creator of the heavens.

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creator of the heavens. In the Old Testament it says, "The heavens are declaring the glory of God."

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That's in Psalms 19 verse 1.

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In the Old Testament, "The Son of Righteousness will arise."

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Malachi chapter 4 verse 2. "The ancient peoples reasoned that no one on earth could ever lay claim of ownership

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to the great orb of day.

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It must belong to the unseen creator of the universe.

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It became figuratively speaking, not man's, but God's son.

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Truly, God's son was the light of the world.

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As I stated before, folks, in the dark cold of night, man realized his utter vulnerability

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to the elements. Each night mankind was forced to wait for the rising of the sun to chase

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away the physical and mental insecurity brought on by the darkness.

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Therefore the morning sun focused man's attention on heavenly dependence for his frail short

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existence on earth, and in doing so it became the appropriate symbol of divine benevolence

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from heaven.

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For without the sun there was no light, there was no warmth, and nothing

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could grow or live upon the face of this earth.

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So just as a small fire brought limited light into man's own little world of darkness,

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likewise the great fire of day served with the whole earth with this heavenly presence. For this reason it was said that the God of the Bible

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was a consuming fire in heaven. And so he was.

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Makes sense?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Sure. Yep. I mean, who believes this now?

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The demon schools, the mystery schools. See, this is see this is this is I think where I'm getting confused

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Please if you are telling me about somebody else's beliefs that you don't

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Respect mm-hmm. It feels strange to give it so much narrative heft give it narrative heft and also

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Being like a plausible kind of explanation for

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anthropologically explanations for like yes okay God's son allows life on

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earth we you know it makes it makes sense right compared to like something

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divine right so so are you are you fucking with me through this or or? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Cause it seems like he's very invested in telling this story. Yeah. Yeah. Of what's wrong.

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Right. Yeah. Like what if somebody is telling me about Scientology, they're not like,

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and let's start on page one of Dianetics. And then we're going to go through bit by bit until we

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get to the end, you know, usually they're like, ah, it's crazy.

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But if you're someone like Bill and you believe, for example, that Scientology has run the world

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secretly since the time of the guy who invented that knife or whatever from broken stone,

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then maybe you would want to dramatize it all like this to give like the story of history

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according to the people that I believe are wrong.

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Absolutely.

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Um, so, you know, the sun gives life.

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Sure.

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That's true enough.

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Yeah.

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I mean, we wouldn't be here without the sun.

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I'm on board.

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Yep.

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You've nailed it.

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And so Jesus is the son of God.

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Oh, no. So we're doing the word thing. You bet we are. Oh,'ve nailed it. And so Jesus is the Son of God. Oh no, so we're doing the word thing.

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You bet we are.

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Oh God damn it.

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So Jesus is the Son of God.

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Yeah.

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And this makes total sense if you think about it.

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Ancient man, even with his limited intelligence, at that time, had no problem understanding

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that all life on earth depended directly on life-giving energy from the sun.

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Consequently, all life was lost without the sun.

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It followed that God's sun was nothing less than man's Savior.

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This energy from the sun gave life, and we sustained our very existence by taking energy in from our food which

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came directly from God's son. The son must give up its life supporting energy so

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that we may continue to live. God's son must give his life for us to live.

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Now I know that if you are intelligent out there listening, you are making some connections here.

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Yeah, I think even if you're not, you probably making some connections because they're pretty

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obvious. Yeah, are those connections that English didn't exist? Never mind.

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Well, that's an interesting thought that you have. But just sort of from like a metaphorical construct standpoint like yeah, okay

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this is one way of explaining the idea of

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Like the God sacrificing his son in order to give life to human yeah

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At least as from a from a metaphor

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Linguistic standpoint. Yes bill is not talking shit - Like at least it makes sense from a, like, I follow your thoughts.

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- Right, if you had a foundation that was anything

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but the foundation you currently have,

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you would have something that makes sense.

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As it is, you have something that makes sense

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out of absolutely nonsense.

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- But it's also, like, what you have as your real ideology

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does not really make sense.

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- Right.

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- And you're explaining the villain's mythology

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and their way of thinking about things

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and it unfortunately makes sense.

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- Yeah, that is a problem for your--

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- That's tough.

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- Yeah.

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Well, I mean, it's nice to make an enemy

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that you can't defeat.

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That's outside of our normal reality

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where he's just like, man,

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these guys are just better than us.

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That would be an interesting take on religion. Well, I don't know if that's the case because

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we got to get through 30 something of these episodes before we really know. That's a fair

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point. But at this point, I think he's starting off on a bad foot. I think that the mystery

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schools and stuff kind of make more sense than him. Yeah, currently, currently. I don't know if that status quo will remain.

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Right.

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So, so he's giving us a dramatic reenactment of the evolution of man beyond a ape or simple

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ape while at the same time saying that act.

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Yeah, but that's crazy because actually got it created everything about six thousand

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years ago. okay, and I think that

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I think that this is not necessarily

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In terms of the evolution of religious thought I don't believe that this is necessarily even accurate

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No, I think scholars would probably take some issue with with this

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But I'm leaving that alone for the sake of like he's telling a story. Yeah

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Yeah, why that these these evil people alone for the sake of like he's telling a story. Yeah. Yeah

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One that these these evil people believe that the story of Jesus is really just this metaphor for the Sun giving life to Earth, right?

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Like all right

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Let's see what's your next thought. Yeah, Jesus came back though, right? There is that well the Sun comes back

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You bet it does boy. Here we go. Oh God

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Well, the Sun comes back you bet it does boy. Here we go. Oh God. You see the mystery schools believe that Christianity is a perversion of the mysteries

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While it was plainly so it's all I came from and was sustained each day by our Savior God's son it was it would be true only

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As long as the sun would return each morning. Our hope of salvation would secure only in a risen Savior.

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For if he did not rise from his grave of darkness, all would be lost.

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All the world waited for his imminent return each morning.

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The Father would never leave us at the mercy of this world of darkness.

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The heavenly promise was surely that, "He was coming in."

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To light our path and save those lost in the darkness.

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Logically, even if man himself died, as long as the sun comes up each day, life on earth

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will continue forever.

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Therefore, it was said in the ancient texts that everlasting life was the gift the Father

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gives through his son, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that

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we may have life everlasting on earth. And the ancient texts did not mean for you personally, but

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on earth everlasting life. That is the interpretation of the mystery schools.

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So yeah, their interpretation is that if the sun rises, life will always exist on earth.

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Sure. And so that's Jesus coming back from the dead. Sure. Uh, God sacrifices the energy of the sun in order to give life to things on

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earth.

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Uh huh.

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It rises and falls.

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Um, okay.

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Yeah.

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Is that all the mystery schools?

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Does the order also believe in that?

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Or does the order have their own little thing?

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I mean, I get that this is, um, like rejecting of Bill's religious beliefs.

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Sure.

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And I can understand how he would be upset about that.

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It happens.

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But so far I don't really see anything evil.

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No, not yet.

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If you don't have the religious framework of, you know, like God and, you know,

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the Christianity that Bill subscribes to, This is just some understanding plants.

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- Yeah, is this like his essential point,

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like these people look at Christians

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who obviously believe the correct stuff.

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- Yeah.

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- And they, in their attempts to interpret

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what it is we believe, don't just agree

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that what we believe is true.

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They find some sort of secret meaning

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behind what we believe that is involved with like a, you know,

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history. And they believe that Christianity is a perversion of

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the mysteries of the universe that they have solved. Right. And

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so that's yeah, yeah, basically. All right. I mean, I guess I

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guess when pots call Kettle's black, I'm fine. It's a lofty premise is what I'm telling you. No, I get you guess I told you when pots call kettles black. I'm fine.

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It's a lofty premise is what I'm telling you.

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No, I get you.

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I get you.

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I get you.

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It's yeah.

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No, I get it.

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So most of this, I think, is reliant on word play.

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It does seem very heavily reliant on word play.

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And this next clip, I was like, oh, we've run into a wall.

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Oh, no.

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That being true, the great horrible day God's son

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could rightly say of itself that quote. I am

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The light and the truth and quote we should all

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In their words not mine

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Give thanks to the father for sending us his sons felt as-N in case some of you were getting confused.

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Oh!

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In this instance where I have mentioned the word "son" it has been in reference to the

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"son" S-U-N.

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For the peace of tranquility he brings to our life, is even called solus."

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"Solus is from the word solar, which means sun."

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"Are you beginning?"

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"Oh boy."

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"To see the light?"

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"Oh my god."

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So solus doesn't come from solar.

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It comes from the Latin "solosium," which means a soothing or a comfort.

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"Solar" comes from the Latin psilaris,

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which means of the sun.

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I know in English it sounds like these words

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have a common root, but they don't.

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- That is the problem.

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- This is a lot of what the games being played rely on.

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Like, this word sounds like this word.

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- Yeah.

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- It is trouble whenever,

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anytime somebody who doesn't introduce themselves

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as having like a PhD in philology

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Or something and then it's going like hey you want to talk about the etymology of this word the answer's no

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I do not yeah, if you're if you're just like throwing together weird

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Superficial connections as opposed to like I understand I have an intimate

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Knowledge of these words. Yeah, It definitely comes off as like,

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I don't know, I'm gonna double check this.

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You're probably wrong.

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- It is so weird how there's a combination of like,

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it is very, very interesting whenever somebody accurately

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traces words that you use every day, all the way back,

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you know, however long to their root origin.

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While at the same time being incredibly boring in 99.9%

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of all other situations when somebody's like,

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did you know soul means sun?

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- Well, but soul can.

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It's just not in every time soul is the beginning of a way.

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- Right.

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- Exactly.

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- I think that you're right.

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Like 90, I don't know if I'm going 99.9,

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but it's damn close, percent of the time it's a card trick. Yeah, it's someone is doing something in order to blow your mind in a way that is dishonest

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Mm-hmm and I would don't trust it

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without confirmation if somebody ends a point with these two words ah ah

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God gives us soulless. Nobody who actually studies

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etymology ever ends a point with these two words are similar. It ends

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with like, and we'll never know. I think I think that yeah, if someone

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if someone pulls off this little slide of hand trick, and then is

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like they end it with you get it. Yeah, you see the light. You see

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what I'm saying? That's bad. Fuck you. So no he does it again. Of course We now have before us

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Brothers one very good and one very bad

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One brings the truth to light with the light of truth the other is the opposite or an opposition to the light the opposed

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the prince of the world of darkness

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It is at this point we come to Egypt. More than 3,000 years

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before Christianity began, the early morning son, the Savior, was pictured in Egypt as the

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newborn babe. The infant Savior's name was Horus. The early morning son, our newborn babe was pictured in two ways. The dove, known

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as the bringer of peace, the hawk, the god of war who perishes the enemies of God. Today

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in government, we still use these terms, dove and hawks. power for the religion is that we use the terms of this religion even today

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and know it's not.

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At daybreak, this wonderful newborn child is of course born again.

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Hallelujah.

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Horace is risen.

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That is what Hallelujah means.

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Even today, when the sun comes up, we see it on the Horace Risen or Horizon.

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-BOO! -BOO!

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-BOO! -BOO!

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-Or the 12th hour, the 12th sines of the zodiac.

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-Oof. -Oof. Oof. Oof. Oof.

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-So Horizon doesn't come from Horace. -Horsh Risen? It's not Horace Risen?

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-No. -Weird!

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-It comes from the Greek

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Hori-Zian, which means bound or limit. Also, ours doesn't come from Horace, but this sounds

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close enough that Bill can just play these games. Yeah, why not? It blows people's minds.

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Why not? Yeah, like this is great. It's so fun, but it is not real. No, not even a little bit. - It's just, it feels like a classic one.

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I mean, aside from a assumed misogyny

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that underlies everything, I'm sure he believes period.

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This is classic just like red string from point to point.

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- Yes.

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- These are not actually connected,

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but this red string really makes you think they are.

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- So it's, you know how he said,

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he was getting at this idea that the guy who made the knife

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and so bearing the guy who, the ancestor of the spear person,

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it's kind of like if the red string,

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the platonic ideal of the red string,

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- Yeah.

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- That, the ancestor of that fucked--

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- Yes, I see what you say.

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- The bean bag pot smoking older brother

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who's gonna blow your mind.

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- Right, right, right, right.

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- They came together to create the this.

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- Plus anger.

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- So, we've done some word stuff.

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- Sure.

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And I think Bill has shown himself to be a whole raising or if it or why not jump into numbers?

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Oh, God.

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Yes.

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Please tell me more numerology.

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You have some numbers.

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Love it.

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It is at this point that we should look at the significance of the recurring

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number 12

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in the Bible.

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Obviously.

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13 is said to be unlucky for humans.

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It is a heavenly number that represents the sun plus the 12 equals 13.

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Our Christ plus the 12 disciples equals 13.

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It's unlucky for a different reason, folks.

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And I will explain that on another program but it has to do with the persecution of the mystery school the mystery religion.

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I guess we'll get to that later.

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I don't know why 13 is unlucky because Bill just brought it up and then moved along.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, is the concept of 13 unlucky for humans.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Okay. All right. Sure. Sure. 13 unlucky for humans right yeah okay all right sure sure we got nothing to go

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on 12 plus one that's unlucky 12 is an important number yeah and part of the

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justification for it is that 13 is not right and we're not gonna explain why

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it's not because it's not until another day maybe it's something to do with

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persecution of this Jesus plus 12 and then one of them obviously got in trouble

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well you're saying Jesus. Maybe it was the Sun

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Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, hmm hard to tell at this point. So anyway, let's get back to 12 sure or maybe 7

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I'll goddamn it. It would be well

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To get a Bible concordance and look to see how many times the number 12 is used in the entire Bible would it remember

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the mystery religion

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is a religion of the heavens.

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Also in the Bible, you'll find many combinations

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of the number seven in the mystery religion

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that represents the seven stars of the Pleiades.

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And you can see the emergence of the mystery religion

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in the UFO movement

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When the plea aliens come to talk to Billy Meyer in Switzerland

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My

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We are deceived by these people so now we're under seven wait. Yeah, hold on. Yep

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Did the mystery religions come before Christianity or after Christianity because if Christianity is a perversion of the mystery religions

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Then it suggests that the mystery of the religions existed prior to

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The Bible being written. Otherwise the numerology within the Bible meaning fully relating to the mystery religions

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Doesn't actually make any sense if they're separate, right?

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I think Bill might get to that in a later episode. I don't fucking know. Okay. No, no, no,

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I've listened. I'm not interrogating you regarding what is clearly insanity. The religion is

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real, right, and correct, right. The mystery schools are predating and post dating, but also wrong and bad.

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- Right, right.

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- Yes.

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- No, I'd be one of the things that we're going to have

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to deal with is that you will get to the end of this

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first edition of Mystery Babylon.

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- Yeah, the Mystery Babylon, you'll be like,

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what is your point?

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- Right, right.

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- Because there isn't really a point.

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- You wouldn't need 30 if you had already nailed your point

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right out the gate.

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Yeah.

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So 12 is an important number in the Bible.

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Yeah.

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And so seven.

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Uh, and then also the Pleiadians, uh, are bringing the mystery religion, the mystery

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school is being communicated by these fake Pleiadians to inject it into the UFO community.

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Yeah.

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I assume he's thinking that like the UFO folks are commies

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or something like that.

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- That must be it.

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- 'Cause maybe it's more left at the time

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or left leaning hippie-ish people are into space

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and UFOs and stuff.

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- I guess.

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How are they tricking me with this?

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- I mean, I don't know.

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- You know what I'm saying?

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- You've been manipulating and deceiving us.

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- Yeah.

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- Right. How am I being deceived

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by different combinations of seven?

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- I think, well, I don't know about the seven part of it,

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but that has something to do with the Pleiades.

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- Right.

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- The mystery schools are injecting ideas

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into the Pleiadians who are fake.

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They're not real, the Pleiadians aren't real.

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- Right.

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- But they're injecting their ideas into the mouthpiece of the plaidians

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Who are telling it to the UFO community who are being tricked by the fake plaidians right who are just regurgitating?

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Mystery religion ideas. Got you think that's what he's saying. Okay. Okay. I'm seeing the red string on the board

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Mm-hmm. I'm seeing the pins go in. I'm seeing the circling as we

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draw another line. I get hearing the bubbling of the bong water.

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I am absolutely. I'm enjoying myself, but I am too sober for this. So there's 12. Of

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course there is, but not 13. No, that's unlucky. There's 12 zodiac signs. Is there? Yeah. So

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let's talk about them. All right. And since the zodiac divided the sky into 12 equal portions, each of these houses will

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also equal.

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Comprising 30 degrees are 112 of the 360 degrees circle.

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And the houses and signs of the zodiac were as follows.

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Aries with the ram are lamp of God.

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Taurus, the bull, the golden calf.

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Gemini, the twins which represented Cain and Abel,

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Jacob and Esau are Jesus and Satan

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for in mystery Babylon, Jesus and Satan are brothers,

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and in some sex of the mystery religion,

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they are the same entity.

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Cancer, the crab, Leo, the lion of the tribe of Judah. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'd be like, "Oh, the sea crab, that's different.

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That's a unique crab."

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- The crab that counseled Jonah in the belly of the whale.

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- That's something.

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- Yes.

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- Something.

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- I just like that.

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- Just the crab.

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- It's such a, I give up.

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- Yeah, no, we don't need it.

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Do you need anything for the crab?

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- These other ones are pretty simple.

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- The lion.

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- The toys.

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- The ram.

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- The crab.

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- The crab.

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The delicious crab.

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I thought that was funny.

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I love it.

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No, I immediately felt it too.

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You can't have like all of this significance that's ascribed to all of these things and

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then be like, except that one.

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Yeah, that's the problem.

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It's like it's like it's like the prediction, you know.

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It's worse if you're close,

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because the closeness is even more meaningless.

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You can only hit it on the head, or it sounds stupid.

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- Yeah, you can't claim to have deciphered a message

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if a couple of the things are wrong.

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- You don't need to worry about ease.

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- Okay, that's a problem, crab boy. - You can figure it out worry about ease. - Okay. - That's a problem, crap boy.

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- You can figure it out where the ease would have been.

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It's jeopardy rules.

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- Yeah, doesn't quite work that way, but I tip my hat.

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So anyway, Bill's citing some real good sources here.

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- Sure.

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- This is just outrageous.

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- We belong to one another.

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According to the Mystery School,

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we are part of God's creation. We are part of a great fraternity of man.

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According to them, we are creation's voice to fame praise to God as together in the morning.

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The morning hopes to pray. The very time of day recalls our, and our new creation in Christ. During the gathering time,

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reflect on this mystery. Using the silence, the sounds of mourning, the Psalms and other

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scriptures be aware that the rising sun is the image of Christ, our Son and Source of out of a Protestant churches.

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Leaflet.

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Calling for the congregation together or the Easter sunrise service.

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Hey, it's Easter.

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OK, I don't care about this leaflet.

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Random churches leaflet. I think you're going to need more than just a leaflet for proving the

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mystery religions have perverted Christianity.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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- Also, a lot of that stuff that he's saying

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does not sound like evil mystery religion type of,

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like we are a community of people.

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- Sounds fine.

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- Of gods, that sounds like pretty in line

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with my idea of Christianity.

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- Oh, that's pretty, all right.

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Yeah, everybody's pretty chill.

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- Yeah. - You know, that's pretty all right. Yeah, everybody's pretty chill. - Yeah.

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- You know, the sun, pretty important.

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Without it, not least of which,

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we wouldn't have the magnetic field

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that protects us from all those kind of,

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uh, outboard radiation.

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- We would be left without solace.

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- And then there is the food thing.

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The food thing is pretty crucial.

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- The food thing is big.

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- Pretty big, pretty big, yeah.

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- So I think you have a guy who's operating off

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words that sound similar,

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and then a pamphlet from a church.

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I don't know if we're really doing high level work here.

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- I just, I want to go to the pamphlet, Meg.

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I want Gladys from new life church of first day

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Adventism to like suddenly hear this and be like I was just I was just doing a

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little something you know it was happy and paste from something else I was just

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doing a little I was trying to make it a little bit nicer for the day you know

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it's Easter I was trying to put a little ceremony in there do you want to see my

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last leaflet zero mystery religions in there now I would imagine this is just a

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leaflet that like one of his listeners sent him

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Yeah, right for one of their churches and it just

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References the morning. I guess basically morning morning emo you are an ING

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That's when we mourn the loss of the Sun at night

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So the morning is when you wake up, but then the morning is also when you go to sleep

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So the morning is when you wake up, but then the morning is also when you go to sleep

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Mornings are morning and mornings were trapped in an eternal morning. Oh, that's a morning that

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So we should mourn

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The age of Pisces. Yeah, okay, because that's gonna be ending right. How's the crab dude?

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grabs

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The crab is the key so that the age of Pisces is the age of fish or something

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sure sure

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and it's coming to an end the age of Aquarius will be upon us right

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i'd this is i'd just my note here is this is all over the place

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the new testament tells us three different times that god

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was taught by and learned

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all things from the Father.

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He was the pupil like the eye.

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We are told that Matthew 14 verse 17 and 19 that God's son tends to his people's knees

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with two fishes.

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The two fishes being the astrological sign all astrologers know as Pisces. Thus we have had for almost 2,000 years God's Son ruling in His kingdom are signs of Pisces, the two fishes.

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As stated before, these signs are called houses.

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Therefore, Pisces is the Lord's house at this time.

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Truly, the greatest fish story ever told.

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- No.

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- According to astrology, sometime after the year 2010,

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touched that date, folks, the year 2010,

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remember what I told you about 2001?

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Arthur C. Clark is obviously a member of the mystery schools.

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- Sure.

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And Stanley Kubrick, who's responsible for making the movie, is obviously a member also.

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According to astrology, sometime after the year 2000 and the sun will enter into his new sign or his new kingdom as it was called by the ancient

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This next coming sign or kingdom soon to be upon us will be according to the zodiac

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The house or sign of Aquarius, so we're entering the age of Aquarius. I heard that song. Yep

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So yeah, the fish

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I heard that song. Yeah, so yeah, the fish

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Age of Pisces It all checks out. I'm sensing a clear pattern that he has

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Where in a very a very consistent rising and falling action to all of his paragraphs

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But my favorite is how a lot of them seem to end with like a two fish

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We all eat hungry now and then he just moves on as though

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there's no I don't need to explain anymore about the two fish houses. It's God house moving on the

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loads and fishes right to fish. We're in the House of Pisces for the last 2000 years. That's

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God's moving to Aquarius. Sometimes around 2010, which is the sequel to 2001, obviously, which means

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Arthur C. Clark and figured it out. Kubrick, of course, their members of this, because

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you made a movie. Then see, that's that's kind of a nice little bit of connective tissue

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between him and Alex. Like this, this idea that these sci fi people were giving you prophecy

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and and all kinds of like hints. Yeah, What is to come? That blurring of fiction and reality is is is

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certainly a part of their tradition. You know what I find fascinating? What's that? Right is it suggests that the

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mystery religions of people are also still getting like movies around the same time we are. You know, if you're making a movie,

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but everybody else also has movie technology,

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it's not like the mystery religions got movies first.

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Do you know what I mean?

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- Remember they did.

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- Well, but even if they did,

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they didn't get them that much faster.

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- I don't know, I don't know.

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Can you prove that?

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- I mean, I guess I can't.

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- You can't prove that people in the like, 1400s didn't have movies.

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- I feel like I actually can't prove that.

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- I'd say you can't.

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(laughing)

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- I feel like if you go back further, I can't.

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But I feel like the 1400s,

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I've got a pretty clear idea on whether or not movies

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were available.

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- Well really like someone yelling on the street

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is the equivalent of a movie, right?

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I mean it's just--

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- Yelling, yelling, yellow, yelling, and yellow.

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In the street, streets are made of yellow submarines.

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Don, the Beatles are in the mystery religions.

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- Streets of gold, heaven.

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Heaven is the sky.

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- Love it.

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- What's in the sky?

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Got sun.

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- Boom.

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- Nailed it.

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Which mystery religion is that?

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Are we in the order?

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- Yep, we're in the order.

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This is out of order.

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- I wanna join the Knights of Malta.

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- Sure, do it.

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- Okay, all right.

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- So if you're confused about this.

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- I am.

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- Yeah, me too.

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Bill tells you what to do with that.

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- Good, thank you.

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- A rule of thumb to remember is that

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finds measure your inherent qualities.

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The planets influence those qualities,

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and the houses indicate directions for them.

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In other words, the houses indicate certain things,

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and a planet and a house influences or activates

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the things indicated.

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Now this is all according to their religion.

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If you want more explanation,

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please ask Nancy Reagan.

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- I will not. - Gotta. - I will not go ask Nancy Reagan. I will not gutter. I will not go ask Nancy Reagan

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You can't make me. I really really don't want to ask Nancy Reagan anything about the planets period

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I mean, I guess I guess maybe one good question would be like are you sure you want to interest nuclear weapons to the planets?

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It's a it's a choice.

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So the, I guess most of this comes down to

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some kind of belief in astrology.

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- Right.

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- I guess.

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- These people fundamentally think that outside the earth

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has stuff that makes the earth different.

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- Right. - Right. - Maybe. the earth has stuff that makes the earth different.

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- Right. - Right.

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- Maybe.

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- I mean, you know, like, you know,

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earth does the thing and then just the way stars are

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shaped in our perspective affects the things.

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But at no point in time do they just go,

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God is completely sovereign over everything?

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- Because I think that, no Because I think that the constellations

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and all that stuff, pretty arbitrary,

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which shapes you wanna draw around stars.

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- Feel real strongly about the arbitrariness

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of those constellations.

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- A lot of them could be connected,

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the stars could be connected in different ways

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and stuff and you could make a different design.

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And so all of these houses and the astrological signs,

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they were created by the mystery religion

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in order to create their framework.

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It doesn't affect us.

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We're affecting it.

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And the crab is the key.

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- The crab has to be the key.

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Now, my question to that would be like,

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what about all the places that weren't in the same place

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as the people who clearly invented those constellations?

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Because if you're on different parts of the earth,

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when you look up at the sky, is not the same.

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So we don't all have the same constellations.

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But we do all have the same houses of God? Yeah. Oh, who could-- I don't we don't all have the same constellations, but we do all have the same houses of God

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Yeah, oh, I don't know man. All right. I'm just I'm just asking I can't go ask Nancy Reagan for clarification

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I would like to hear actually that I would like her to know yeah

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So we come to the end of Bill's first presentation

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Mm-hmm, and I don't know if I have a howl out of clarity. Okay.

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Yet another simple mistranslation to clarify, and there are many in the Bible with the proper understanding of the actual words used.

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This end of the world is translated differently in various Bibles.

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Some say in the time, some say end of the days, and still others, they conclusion of this system of things.

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So what does all this talk of the

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end time or last days really mean?

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Nothing.

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Well, here's the simple answer folks, according to the mystery schools, when the scripture

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speak of "the end of the world," the actual word used is not. I repeat not in the world. The actual word in Greek is Aeon, which when correctly translated means

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age. That spells both A-G-E. Any library will have Bible concordances.

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Don't do this.

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This is Bible concordance is a good reference word to use here. Look up the word age. Any

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secular dictionary or Bible concordance. There you will find the word for ages from

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the Greek Aeon, our A-E-O-N. Remembering that in astrology each of the twelve houses are

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signs of the zodiac corresponds to a two thousand year period of time called an age we now know

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we are 1,992 years into the house our age of Pisces.

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Now correctly understood, it can rightly be said that we today, in fact, are living in

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the last days.

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Yes, according to the Mystery Schools, we are in the last days of the old age of Pisces.

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Soon, God's son will come again into his new kingdom, our new age. And

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that's where all this new age movement and new age comes from, new age of Aquarius, man

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with the water pitcher. Luke chapter 22 verse 10. That's right folks, the new Aeon are the

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new age.

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This according to the mystery schools is the perversion of Christianity.

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This is the theme of the Bible, God's Son, and His coming kingdom age, the new age of

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Aquarius.

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Now, what you choose to believe is your business.

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Remember, don't get mad at me.

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I am teaching you the Mystery Religion of Ancient Babylon.

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And I'm telling you

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right now, many people practice this mystery religion in secret and they hate

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Christians. They hate Christians because they believe that Christianity is a

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perversion of their religion and thus is their enemy. Wait. When viewing the

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shimmering rays of sunlight on a body of water at dawn or sunset

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According to the mystery schools one can still see today how God's son walks on water

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Good night, and God bless you all what God bless you - bill what?

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Yeah, what would you mean I?

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Guess that's the end this light is reflected off water fine fine

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What would you mean? - I guess that's the end.

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- The light is reflected off water?

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- Fine, fine.

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- I think, I don't understand from this first installment

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how the Mystery School people hate Christianity.

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I don't feel that at all.

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From what he has presented.

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I think that we have him representing the side of Christianity.

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- I guess.

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- And saying that the mystery schools

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are a perversion of Christianity.

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- Right.

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- And then the mystery schools are saying

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that Christianity is a perversion of their ideology.

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And I'm being left with either,

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I'm supposed to believe that someone has walked on water

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or light reflects off water and it's a metaphor.

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- Sure. - And I think that that's more plausible.

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- Probably. - Of explanation for someone walking on water.

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- It would make sense. - So it's strange to me

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that he's presenting these two things and one of them makes a whole lot more sense.

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- Yeah. Yeah, I'm also confused as to why it is he's interested in what the mystery schools interpret the scripture as.

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You know what I mean?

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So if the mystery schools are not coming up with this idea,

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if they are instead taking something you believe

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and just change and just believing something different

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about it, what does that matter?

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Unless they existed before you, in which case

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you're kind of like pissed off. Not necessarily because I think that you could say that the

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mystery schools as Bill is presenting it are an effort to undermine the reality of the

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Christian Bible. So like you have a miracle that Jesus did, which was walking

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on water. Right. And the mystery schools are like, no, that's just light reflecting on

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the water. So it's an undermining of sure of this religion. So it could exist after

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what when we're okay, we're talking ancient Babylon. All right, sure. And we're talking

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about, uh, Horace. Yeah, right. So we we're going way back. We're going back ancient Babylon because I feel like maybe I just don't have my dates, right?

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Sure. Um, there's some dates that maybe should be fleshed out. Yeah, I want to say that if we're talking about

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I mean depending on what time period but

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Yeah, we're talking way before Jesus was born and the

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Bible was compiled. Sure. Like way before that. But I don't think that based on what we're being

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presented with in this first episode, we know whether or not this is the religion of Babylon,

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or if it's working back to Babylon okay, that was created after Jesus okay

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So we're that we're leaving open the possibility that when they say ancient map or when he says ancient Babylonian

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Mystery people mm-hmm. That is him describing a religion that was created relatively recently

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To and harkens back to ancient Babylon as a tradition

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Yeah as opposed to something that was originated in ancient Babylon

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that has stayed with us throughout, I guess, the Knights of Malta. Yes, I think that's possible.

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If we're, you know, we're confining ourselves to the information that's being presented in this

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lecture, and I think that that's possible. Right. I don't know what he's talking about. I believe it is on the lecturer for you two then at the end of the lecture, know what the

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lecturer was talking about.

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I think the lecture is about feelings of persecution as a Christian.

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Sure.

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I definitely get that sense.

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That's true, but not from the people that he is saying.

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No.

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Pure created a eternal persecution that he's describing through riddles and word puzzles.

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(laughing)

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I don't know, I have this tension that I'm interested

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and I would like to learn more.

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- Yeah.

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- But do I actually think that there's much more

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in the 29 plus episodes?

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- Absolutely not.

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- No, but I think we,

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I'm feeling inclined to explore it more.

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- I wanna, I do--

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- I think it's probably boring.

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And I don't know what the point is.

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And maybe, maybe this Easter,

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the thing that rose from the dead should have stayed dead.

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- I will say this. - I don't know.

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- I will say this.

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From a pure vocal standpoint,

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his storytelling style is digestible.

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It is somewhat hypnotic.

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And ultimately, if you are not thinking,

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it's kind of enjoyable.

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- Yeah, and he has a certain amount of authority

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that he's able to put on.

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- The tone is great. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a certain amount of authority that he's able to put on.

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The tone is great.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So if you're just passively listening and assume he knows what he's talking about,

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you could end up internalizing some bad information.

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Yeah, he has a very professorial tone to him.

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He's got that depth of age to his voice that gives you.

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And then he's got the lilt. The lilt that gives you the like, "I'm a, bahabababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababab talking about and so far it's nothing it is weird to hear somebody deliver other nonsense in that tone though you know like just complete batshit

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lunacy but with the the calm confidence so you see of a true psychopath a crab

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right yeah cancer the crab so Leo the lion of Judah I think that I'm going to

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at least do another mystery Babylon episode I'm I think that I'm going to at least do another mystery Babylon episode.

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I'm in.

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I think I'm going to.

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I don't want to say that we're going to cover it all.

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I'm not committing to that kind of nonsense.

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Thirty might be a lot.

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But I think I'm resurrecting this at least for a bit.

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We're going to try it for a little bit.

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Like somebody of the mystery religions from ancient Babylon.

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Are you revealing yourself to be the fulfillment of

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Bill Cooper's prophecy here is this whole 30 part thing about Al

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Dan freeze and what the mystery religions will arise and

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Easter exactly. Oh shit. I don't want to say that is the case, but I want to leave open the possibility

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I think it's why I think it's why it's to leave up in that possibility

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So we'll find out if that's the case later on another

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But until then we have a website. Did we do it solid-strike dot-com? Yep, we'll be back

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But until then I'm the oh I'm the easy X Clark. I am the mysterious professor mysterious professor

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And now here comes the sex robots Andy in Kansas here on the earth. Thanks for holding

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And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the Earth.

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Thanks for holding.

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So Alex, I'm a first-time color.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.

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