Transcript/1025: Tucker, The Man And His Prophet

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- Hello, Alex, I'm a good friend,
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I love you.
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- Hey everybody,
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welcome back to Knowledge Fight,
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I'm Dan.
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- I'm Jordan.
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- Work up with dudes.
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Like, sit around,
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worship with the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. - Oh, indeed I'm Dan. - I'm Jordan. - Work a couple dudes, like sit around, worship with the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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- Oh, indeed we are Dan.
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- Jordan.
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- Dan.
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- Jordan.
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- Quick question for you.
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- What's up?
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- Which bright spot today, buddy?
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- You go first.
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- My bright spot is actually a novel that I just read.
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It's called The Wedding People by Allison Esbach.
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I think some like that.
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- Your turn to not know how to pronounce something.
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- Yeah, fantastic. It's great book
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It was about people getting married. No, it's a it's a classic
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What was it? It's a classic
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Tale of a woman suddenly going like oh right everything everybody's ever told me is wrong whoops
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And it was probably my fault for listening to them the whole time and then the story goes from there
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But what's great about it is that unlike like, you know,
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Thomas Hardy's Return to the Native, there was a whole genre
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way back in the day where that's what women would do would be like,
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"Oh, I'm a person."
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But then at the end, you had to kill him because women shouldn't be allowed to do that.
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It's heretical.
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So you have a great story of a woman becoming herself becoming
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this amazing creature and
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offending people but also
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being exciting and cool. And
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then she's punished for it
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because that's what you got to
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do. Uh, which was Thomas
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already had to change the
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ending of to return of return
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to the native to make sure
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she was punished. So so this
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is like that. But because it's now,
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she doesn't get punished.
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- Hey, how about that?
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- She doesn't have a great time.
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- What fun?
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- Yeah, and then she just moves on with her life.
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It's fantastic.
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- Spoilers for the wedding people.
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- I know, it's great.
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- Oh, Jordan, the sales of this book
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are not gonna, not gonna explain that part.
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- Not yet.
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- Your recommendation 'cause you spoiled the plot.
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- In the 1900s, this lady's getting murdered.
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I'll just put that out there. Okay
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Sounds good. Yep. What's your bright spot? So I was I saw this on YouTube and enjoyed it
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There's a show called Caso have you heard of that huh? It's um
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It's skateboarding okay, but I think it's made by the same people who made American Ninja Warrior
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- Okay. - But I think it's made by the same people who made American Ninja Warrior.
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- Okay. - And so like,
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there's a bunch of crazy shit they have to skate.
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- I'm listening. - They get a bunch
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of people together.
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One of them that I really enjoy is,
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they're up on this giant platform.
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And then there's just a big rail over water.
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(laughing)
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And it is, I think it's like 35 meters long, this rail.
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- God damn! So you gotta try and grind 35 meters of rail.
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And I've seen no one complete that yet, but it's you know, you get
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ranked by percentages of the length that you've made it.
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Sure, sure, sure. Because I don't know if it's possible to get
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across that. You have to go to grind 35 meters. Well, get this.
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Okay, it's downward slope a little bit. - Well get this. - Okay. - It's downward sloped a little bit,
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so you get that advantage.
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- Okay, okay, I gotcha.
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- But also, so you start skating onto it,
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and there's a little seesaw
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that connects you to the big rail.
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- Okay.
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- So you have to deal with a kachunk.
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- Right, right, right.
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- Before you even get there.
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Oh, that's brutal.
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- So a lot of people only make it like 10% of the way,
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'cause that's when the seesaw happens. - Right, right. - But man, it's brutal. So a lot of people only make it like 10% of the way because that's when the seesaw happens, right?
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But man, it's just fun. Yeah, I like that sounds great. Yeah, it makes me really jealous of people who are pretty good at skateboarding
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Yeah, because it seems like a lot of fun if someone sets up a giant mouse trap ass, right?
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Right. No, is it is it like is it American Ninja Warrior fun or is it like wipe out fun?
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You know what I mean?
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- They don't fall all that moment.
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I mean, they do fall 'cause you're not making it
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all the way across the rail.
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- That's where a celebration of expertise
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as opposed to being like,
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we're gonna watch people fall in an interesting way.
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- To see them get through it.
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- Gotcha, gotcha.
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- There's one that's like a spiral,
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like a plank, I guess, I don't know, just a ground in a
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spiral that you're you're trying to go across. And it gets thinner and thinner as it spent,
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like as it goes around. Yeah. So you have to make it around this curve as the amount of
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space you have is shrinking. That's cool. And it's like, that's fucking fun. You want
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to see you want to see people succeed. That is fun Yeah, but then if you're gonna bail you want to see people bail in a fun way
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So like if you're on that giant rail, maybe you're falling. Yeah, I want to do a backflip
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Why not why not it's fun. It is fun. So anyway, I've really enjoyed that shit out of that on YouTube
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Do you know what do you know what I think I think when we were growing up?
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adults had like battle of the network stars
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where they would watch famous people
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race each other or some shit, right?
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But then when we were growing up,
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we had like global guts.
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We had the aggro crack.
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And so now as adults, everything is the aggro crack.
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Everything has got to be some sort of like really cool.
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Like we can spin around this thing and then you get the aggro crack well and if you can do that why not do it right
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You know like if you can create the skating aggro crack everything can be the aggro crack sure believe in yourself
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Yeah, absolutely fun to watch agreed so Jordan today. We have an episode to go over. Okay. It's not as fun to watch. That sounds true
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so I I saw a little bit of a boop,
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boop, red alert kind of thing. Okay. Alex was on with Tucker. Great. So they did another
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little interview. Great. And quite different than the last one. Oh, yeah. Because Alex
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isn't getting drunk in prank calling still. Yeah. so there's a very different energy betwixt the
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two sure. But hey, it happened. So we should talk about it.
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Yeah. And we will hear in a moment. But first, let's say
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hello to some new wanks. That's great idea. So first, come to
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a live show in the state Capitol Springfield, you can eat a
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horseshoe parentheses breadheses bred topped by meat, fries, and cheese sauce.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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No.
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No.
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We're not gonna go.
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I don't wanna go to Springfield, Missouri.
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I don't wanna go to Springfield, Illinois.
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I don't wanna go to Springfield with the Simpsons.
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My aunt used to work in Springfield,
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and then she died.
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How do you feel about that?
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You can't you can't go back there now. Nope next
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Frakis McMailay. Thank you so much for now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much
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Thank you and Ren's theater degree. Thank you so much for now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much
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And we get a technocrat in them extortence. So thank you so much to quick mothra correction
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She has fairies not children and it may sound primitive and unscientific, but through the fairies
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We would call to mothra for help. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty-baby
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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. The fairies do look like children though
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That is true. Yeah, that is true. And if you're a moth
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Fairies kind of have a very child. Yeah at this point though with like with Elon and Trump
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I'm into some author. I'd be fine with my mother. Yeah, I'd be fine with my throat
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Give me in touch with those fairies. I'll see if we can get help
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I do just like a I do like a good scientist going it may sound unscientific
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But the fairies are how we will contact her it does sound that way it does sound bad. - So we'd start here, Alex and Tucker sitting down.
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Alex is newly healthy.
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- Oh, God. - He is looking--
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- We're not having this kind of a conversation.
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- No, no, we're not.
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I'm trying to set the scene. - Okay.
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- There's at no point a feeling of danger.
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- Okay.
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- You know, when Alex is a chaotic element a lot of the time.
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- Sure.
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- And so in the past times that he's a chaotic element a lot of the time. Sure.
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And so in the past times that he's talked to Tucker,
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there's been like kind of an electricity.
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And this does not have that.
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Oh, no, because Alex is sober.
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Oh, so Tucker starts off here.
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OK, so I want to impose my theory on you.
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And you tell me what you think.
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So for the past 15 years, I've been watching the feds, the FBI, the DOJ, try to destroy
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you.
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And I've watched as no group of gatekeepers or whistleblower protectors or journalistic,
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you know, ethics guardians have defended you on first amendment grounds, which is pretty
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shocking. But the question has always been, why are the feds so intent on taking you out?
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And here's my theory.
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So the summer of 2001, you go on TV, time stamped, and say,
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"Someone's going to fly planes to the World Trade Centers.
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They're going to blame Osama bin Laden, call the Bush White House, warn them."
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You basically called 9/11 in detail.
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You're the only one who did.
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And we can prove that.
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It's not a guess.
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We have the tape.
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I've played the tape.
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9/11 happens in September.
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There's a 9/11 Commission immediately in panel.
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They go and interview a bunch of people in the US government and outside and ask where
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their signs of this was happening.
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They don't interview you.
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You're the one guy who predicted it in public.
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You're the only guy who predicted it in public. And no one calls you to ask, "How the hell did you
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know that?" Which is the obvious question. Then they said about trying to destroy you.
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Rather than like hailing you as a prophet, or at least asking the question, "How the
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hell did Alex Jones know into tale this was coming?" Like, "How did you know?" They never even ask you.
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And then they they mobilized
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DOJ and FBI against you and I think there's a connection between those two facts.
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Cue the intro music. Wow. So this is painfully embarrassing to hear an adult who
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pretends to take their work seriously say. All Tucker is basing this on his edited
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clips from Alex's show from 2001 that are meant to create the appearance that he predicted 9/11 in detail.
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In the clip from July 2001 that seems to have blown Tucker's mind, Alex references
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Bin Laden and the World Trade Center specifically in reference to the bombing in 1993 which Al-Qaeda
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took credit for.
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He doesn't predict that planes will be flown into the World Trade Center, he just references
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the idea that the government could false flag blow up a plane, citing the Baltimore Sun.
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This is just him mentioning an article that covered Operation Northwoods.
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These are all very normal things for Alex to rant on and use as touch points in any
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one of his episodes.
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The only way this even comes close to appearing like some kind of a prediction is if these
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pieces are edited together in order to create that image. There's nothing impressive about Alex's alleged prediction,
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and it's really wild the Tucker is acting like this long past the point where he needs
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to. Yeah. The election is over, the damage has been done, so it just feels like what
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you're seeing here is an indication the Tucker is sincerely an idiot. Like, I think that
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he might just be stupid. - Yeah, why not?
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I mean, you know, like, there's no reason to believe
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that he was ever more than this, right?
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- I guess not.
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- Like, if you stop, I think a lot of us are just,
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well, you're on TV, you can't be that stupid.
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But, you know, other people give them words
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to say a lot of the time.
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- Yeah, no, I think that Tucker may have a lot of built up
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sort of unexamined credibility from that.
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- Yeah.
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- You were on real TV.
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- Yeah.
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- You could be there if you didn't have
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some baseline competence.
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- Well.
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- You wore the bow tie, which is embarrassing.
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- Right.
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- But you realize that you shouldn't wear the bow tie.
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- Right.
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- Which is an indication of some competence.
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- Right, but if you're in, if you're on mainstream TV
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and you're Tucker, all you really have to do
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is sound like other mainstream TV people,
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but a little bit more, you know?
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So you don't actually have to be smart.
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None of those people are smart.
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They just sound like each other.
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- Yeah. - And then they're all there.
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So you're like, oh, then they must all be good.
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- Can you imagine if Anderson fucking Cooper
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saw that clip of Alex's edited together prediction?
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It was like, oh my God, maybe he's a prophet.
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- Yes, that's what I'm trying to say.
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I think they're all exactly that stupid in real life.
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- I think that there's maybe all of them
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are stupider than we think, but Tucker might be
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a special kind of-- - Not that stupid.
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- Okay, okay, okay.
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Let's just call it a curve
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of like just depressed the whole profession down.
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- Yeah.
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- He was already on the bottom.
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- Oh, let me actually, let me see
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if I can articulate it a little better.
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- Okay.
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- Tucker is where desperation meets that kind of
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- There you go.
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- Vapidity and stupid.
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- Yeah.
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- Because he had no other path to go down then I was attacked by a fucking demon
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Yep, there you go. That's where we're at. Yes. Yes
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So I noticed that it's there's a strange way that this is is starts. That's not really a cold open
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You know, that's like a cut out question. Yeah, I guess there was a question
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He's asking a question then there's the theme music.
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And then it comes back and Alex starts to answer.
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- Oh.
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- So it's a little bit jarring and disconnected,
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but here's Alex's answer.
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- Well, there certainly is.
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I'd already been researching false flag attacks,
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not as fire government,
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but other governments throughout history.
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The Gulf of Tonkin, they get a send to Vietnam in '64
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that was literally classified to have been staged. And of course the U.S. is liberty between Israel and the
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Lyndon Baines John's administration wanted to get us into full war with Egypt,
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but the ship survived, became the most decorated ship in
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U.S. history because the valance of the crew and Operation Ajax where the CIA
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current Roosevelt, 53 over through Muhammad Mosidek, It was a reformist and he really pro West,
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but he wouldn't give them all the oil and they use radical Islamic
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ist overthrow him and then put the Shah in and then over through the
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Shah over and over again. There's just hundreds and hundreds of
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historical real case examples of that being done by our government
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and other governments. And I saw a lot of pre programming in the
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news. Oh, someone been loud and is going to get us when he gets us. We need to give up all of our rights.
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It will be a new America and we've got a said this police state. So I saw a lot of pre programming.
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And but you called the specifics. You called the specifics of 9/11. I just can't get past that.
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And I've asked you in public and private, how did you do that? I've never gotten
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really a straight answer. I doubt I will now cuz it's bullshit
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It's the incontrovertible fact the provable fact that you called it and then they began a campaign against you
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And it's not because you're a racist you've never been a racist or an anti-semitre crazy person actually
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You've never spewed hate
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But you have for you know 30 years said the foundations of our system are actually
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kind of fake and rotten. And it's, but it was 9/11. That's when they decide, that's
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when they really decided this guy has to be stopped and just basically eliminated the
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first amendment to stop you.
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Well, just to be clear, it's not that I'm dodging how I knew it. That was 24 years ago.
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And I remember what I was covering and what I was
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doing at the time.
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It's funny how Tucker is imposing his own version of Alex onto him. He's like, "You
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never been racist. You just said that society is rotten." He's created... He has this cartoon
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character and he's like, "I'm talking to him. You are that." But this whole exchange
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is silly because we know from
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listening to Alex's show that the answer to Tucker's question is that God gave Alex prophetic
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visions that allowed him to see the future, which is where this prediction about 9/11
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came from. He said it explicitly on multiple occasions on the show. And it's the answer
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that Tucker is fishing for here. If you have Alex Jones on your show in 2025, you're not
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looking for a calm, measured
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conversation about what cues he saw in the media that led him to think 9/11 was gonna happen.
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You wanna advance the social conversation about how you're in the middle of a holy war in the spirit
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realm and you were attacked by a fucking demon. Tucker is trying to be as soft as he can about it,
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but he's just opening this interview telling Alex to get into the crazy shit so he can help normalize it.
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And Alex seems to want to be taken seriously instead.
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It's a mismatch of energies that you see coming at each other.
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Yeah.
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He's like, tell me the fun shit.
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And Alex was like, well, you know, Lyndon Baines Johnson, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Good fuck off.
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You're boring.
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It's it's the problem with profits.
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You want your profits to be dead because if your profits alive they have to be like well I didn't actually predict it
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man I'm not actually a profit do you want me to sit here and tell you I see the future
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right because then our conversation is gonna have to shift a little bit and I'm probably gonna come
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out looking stupid tell me what you want because what you want is for me to be dead So you can say what I'm supposed to say exactly so you can draw the cartoon character right and have me
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, so Alex talks a bit about how he predicted 9/11 more times
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Then just that one clip the Tucker's mind was blown by sure and everybody's seen the July 25th
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Where I went into detail, but but actually my crew using chat GPT
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scanning through all my old shows, found shows in April and
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even before that in March, where I get more specific and I
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said the CIA is going to fly planes into the World Trade
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Centers and blame it on a bit loud. So I just think that's
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the most amazing fact I've ever heard. So is it a fact now
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that the CIA did it?
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And again, we can prove it because it's on tape with timestamps and everyone's like,
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"Oh yeah, okay, Alex Jones is crazy.
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Hey, okay, whatever."
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I don't think that's true, but you called 9/11 and no investigator ever called you
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to ask you how you called that?
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No.
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I knew that.
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No.
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No one from DOJ, Philip Zellacow of the 9/11 Commission. No called you. No
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Investigators didn't call Alex because these clips are edited after the fact to make it look like he made a specific prediction
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It would have been a waste of important public resources after 9/11 to play profit games with some dipshit from public access TV in Texas
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Alex said that his researchers used AI to go find other predictions.
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And here's one that Chase posted that Alex is referring to.
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On March 6, 2001, Alex Jones first predicted the September 11th attack on the World Trade
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Center.
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You've got an element of the FBI and these war game scenarios where they can remote control
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a 747 and they're going to crash it into the world trade center
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While other networks lie to you about what's happening now
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info wars tells you the truth about what's happening next so this wasn't Alex predicting anything
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It's him describing the plot of the first episode of the x-files spin off the lone gunman
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That sounds right one of the tip-offs is that this is uh, you know, you can tell that it's not a very impressive prediction is how tightly Alex's words are
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cut in order to take away context of what he might have been discussing. As you heard
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that voiceover say this was from March 6th, 2021. Yeah. And the episode of the lone gunman
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that Alex is describing came out on March 4th. Wow. This was not Alex making a prediction.
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He had just seen. Yeah. Yeah. So that was describing the plot. March 4th. Well, this was not Alex making a prediction. He had just seen.
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Yeah.
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The episode that was describing the plot.
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That sounds true.
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That sounds true.
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But on the other hand, have you considered that now we do like,
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are we now taking all of this as fact?
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Right?
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If you want to believe what Tucker's saying,
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but I don't even think that Alex has a concrete
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like specific version of 9/11 that he would stand behind under certainty.
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Right.
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Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. were that the FBI was remote controlling planes. That means you are saying the FBI did remote
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control planes to cause 9/11. Right. Right. Thus, we should have to do something about
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that. The FBI did 9/11, right? Like that's what you're saying.
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Mm hmm. Yeah. And I think that all of the crack investigators that have been going for
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the last 25 years probably would have been able to demonstrate some kind of a remote control thing.
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Anything.
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Right.
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But, um, well, I'm sure I'm sure it's declassified in the white papers or something.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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Anyway, um, Alex is, uh, real boring about how he predicted 9/11.
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Tucker is trying to get him to say God told me. Yeah. And other powers exist in the
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spiritual realm for God's sake, monkey dance. Exactly. Yeah. So that was well known in the
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research circles that that that that that been laden was basically a multinational cut
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out used by Western intelligence agencies destabilize areas, but also be a boogie man
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that you see CNN and a mountain cave magically being able to find me, but the US can't kill as a digital and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and got seen and interviewing him and they're all scaring us saying he's
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about to attack us. And then I remembered how Ahmad Salaam, who was an Egyptian intelligence
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agency operative working for the FBI and CIA was hired to build a bomb in the early 90s
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to blow up the World Trade Center. But then when they said build a real bomb, he started
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recording them because he sort of figured out was was a setup and then he had that press conference
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where he played it, I interviewed him a few times
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where the FBI said, "No, just go ahead
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"and let it go forward."
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And so you start adding all that together.
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They'd already tried to hit the World Trade Center before.
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The World Trade Center had a lot of issues in it
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with asbestos and also some of the structural issues.
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So they were already wanting to have a plan to get rid of it.
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And then you have the CIA and FBI
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in the Solomon Brothers Building,
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Building 7, the 47 story skyscraper.
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You have that right next door.
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So I looked at all of it and I thought,
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where would the new Pearl Harbor be?
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And the year before in the Project for American Century,
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headed up by Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney,
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Dick Cheney wrote in there that we need a new Pearl Harbor event
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to launch the Fox Americana, but it wasn't an American empire freedom and liberty
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and justice like Trump's trying to launch.
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It was a globalist empire, military enforcement and tyranny.
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And so there was a lot of other data points.
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It's like Alex is going out of his way to beg to be taken seriously in this interview,
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which is somewhat counter to what Tucker needs him to do.
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Alex isn't supposed to be an astute guy who understands how to read media trends, he's
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a fucking prophet.
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Tucker got attacked by a demon, Alex sees the future, we're in magic land, and Alex
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is supposed to be the guy who's leading that charge and isn't ashamed to be that.
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This exchange is super boring because Alex
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isn't playing ball. He has no use to anyone as a media analyst or historical critic because
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if he's put in those boxes you might start to question how consistent his batting average
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is. You might start checking and realize that he's wrong about shit constantly and maybe
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you shouldn't take him seriously. Now, as a prophet, he's pretty good. He has a passionate
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delivery and he's really good at He has a passionate delivery and he's
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really good at manipulating people's emotions. He's an expert at making a million vague predictions
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that can be presented as one specific prediction later with the help of editors and marks like
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Tucker. And profits benefit from being in a position where they don't really have to
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be right much. God gives them visions, but those can be hard to interpret. And plus their
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scary prediction might not come true thanks to them making the prediction. Their inaccuracy
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might actually be proof of how effective they are as a prophet. This is the slot Tucker
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needs Alex to fit in, not some kind of rogue academic. This is a huge miscalculation on
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Alex's part in terms of what he's useful for.
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Yeah. Like when he got invited to come to that, uh, the thing in Pennsylvania,
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yeah, the show, he played his role. Yeah. He did exactly what he is supposed to do.
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Yell the catch phrases, pump them up, do all that shit. Yep. This is, this is not it.
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This is not hitting. Yeah. yeah, it does feel like it feels like he is now supposed to transition into the
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project Camelot role.
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That's his job now.
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And he does he doesn't want to do it.
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He just still does.
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He still wants to view himself as the different thing.
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And he's just he he's gotta do it. - Well, 'cause I think that the archetype
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that he's living by should be dead by now.
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- Yeah.
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- The end of this story doesn't really have
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a good place for you to exist in,
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because if you're really this dangerous,
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the power should be,
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- You're gonna be done.
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- Shouldn't have let you to get to this point.
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- You're now celebrating the powers that be having the ability to murder people exactly like you.
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Yeah. So you should be murdered. Yeah. You've lived long enough to become the villain.
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Yeah. And it's boring. Yeah. Also, I get just a real strong vibe from that clip of Alex,
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as like someone who cheated on a test.
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- Sure.
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- He cheated on the test in as much as like,
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he said that he predicted 9/11 exactly.
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- Yeah.
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- In order to create the image that he's a prophet.
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- Right.
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- That's cheating.
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- Right.
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- And now he's being asked to justify it.
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And instead of just playing into the cheating,
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he's trying to justify how he arrived at his answer
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by like faking the work that he did in order to arrive
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at the conclusion. - Right, right, right.
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- He's making up the book report as he says it.
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He's read the cover of "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer"
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and he's like, "Man, Tom is out here riding motorcycles.
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Tom is adventuring.
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And then that's how I knew that Tom was gonna paint that fence, man.
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He doesn't want to be seen as somebody who just like, I have, I have magic.
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And so he's like, ah, yeah, I'm on salam, the 1993 bombing.
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CNN was able to interview him. Oh, I put all these data points to get
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off. Yeah. It's what happens when you go from wanting adoration to wanting respect. And you should
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not want Reddit respect if you're Alex. No, no, just play into it. Yep. People will love you.
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So Tucker is trying to beat this drum of like, hey, you were the only one who predicted your psychic.
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Say your psychic.
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And you're the only one saying it, which indicates that he doesn't even take any
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of this shit seriously, because you would have seen the Bill Cooper was also
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predicting this, but whatever.
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Whatever.
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I, but I, okay, so these are not minor issues.
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The, this is these like the biggest things happening in the world.
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The most important things happening in the world and the end of one system
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ushering in a new system,
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millions in the end died because of all of this, millions.
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And you're on cable access in Texas figuring this out.
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Like, where is everybody else?
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I don't understand.
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Like, I don't wear what I worked at, and at the time,
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I don't-- and we had it, as you said, Peter Bergen
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went and interviewed Benlon, not attacking Peter Bergen. But like, how come you were the only one who figured this out?
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Yeah, about that time I started out in '94 as a guest on Axis TV and at my own show by
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'95. But I was on local talk radio. I just started getting, you know, I've been syndicated a few
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years then. But I, okay, but, but you're right. I was on Axis TV as well. And that's where the
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same was like way out. I'm the fringe.
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And all the people at the very center of our business journalism,
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like they didn't see or didn't talk publicly about any of this.
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Like well, none of this.
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Well, I saw Gary Hart on with another guest.
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Gary Hart, the former presidential candidate
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senator from Colorado.
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I think it was the Hart-Rubbin Commission. Yeah. I saw him in Congress,
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with testimony earlier that year, and also saw him on. I believe it was CNN, or maybe it was
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Chris Matthews, MSNBC, but the clip's famous. And they say, "The world's about to change.
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There's about to be big things happening. You know big big attacks
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When when was this it was a it was in early July. It was before 9/11
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Yes, and that's and they were very specific so I should find that clip can crowdsource that and
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That was the final catalyst because they were basically telling the establishment very thinly veiled
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What was about to go on so I sat sat back, I looked at it. And I thought years later, how did I come up with that? So I don't just say a bunch
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of stuff. Then most of this come true. I'm very specific on production. You're saying
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that now. Yeah, a little defensive. This isn't why Alex is here. He's here to talk about
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psychic visions. Plus he's not answering any of these questions, honestly. Tons of people
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in the conspiracy and right wing world, world were talking about false flags coming because the experience of Oklahoma City and
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Waco were fresh in their minds. And Bill Cooper had made the exact predictions that Alex did
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previous to him. This is all just a real sad false image building here.
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I think I think going back part of the reason that we like I've read I've
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read a few books recently that were written in between the time period of 93 and 01 and
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they reference the World Trade Center bombing and there's so much of that that's like I
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remember now that was not spoken of like in my experience after 9/11 was it took me years for people to finally be like
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Oh, yeah, but didn't you know that Osama did it in 93? It was so much bigger
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What happened in I know no no, but the point being is that it was it was like
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Used to then push us towards Iraq to push us towards doing all that stuff as opposed to being like no
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This guy is this is number two man. Yeah. We know what's going on with this guy
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because he's already said what's going on.
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- Yeah, it might be the details a little bit.
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And there's a criticism to be made on that front for sure.
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- Yeah.
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- But yeah, it's, when you have that clip of Alex
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from the summer of 2001 and he says the World Trade Center,
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you think of 9/11, but he thinking of 93 right and that's something that's
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really difficult to after 9/11 keep track of right because of the cultural
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memory and the the precedence right that that 9/11 took quite frankly it was the
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World Trade Center those eight years those years. - When those words.
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- Those eight years were filled with a lot of people.
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A lot of people being like,
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we didn't do anything about this Osama character.
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Are we going to do anything about this Osama character?
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Like it was-- - Because he said
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he's gonna do this again. - Yeah, 'cause he said it.
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'Cause people weren't needing to predict it,
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'cause he said it.
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(laughs)
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- Yeah, it's not as magical as Tucker wants to present this.
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And that's fine, I guess.
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- I mean, just comes off a little desperate.
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- To a certain extent, believe women, of course,
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but also believe terrorists.
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If they announce they're going to terrorize
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you. Sure. So I mentioned earlier that Alex may have been reciting the plot of a lone
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gunman episode. Yes. When he made one of his 9/11 predictions. Sure. He I think realizes
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that that might be a criticism that is going to come his way. Oh, yeah. And so he gets
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defensive about that in advance. Sounds right.
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So I'll just say a bunch of stuff that most of us come true. I'm very specific on predictions
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almost all of them have come true. I thought that it was the spinoff of the X files and
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I wasn't even an ex false fans rarely watched it.
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Call the lone gunman that it turns out had come out in the spring of 2001 that I didn't even learn about because there wasn't, you know, Facebook
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and Twitter and X back then.
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So if you didn't watch those entertainment shows, you didn't know about it.
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And then six months or so after 9/11, listeners start saying, have you seen this and I had
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listeners send me VHS recordings off Fox TV of this episode where a criminal group in the U.S.
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government hijacks a jumbo jet in New York to fly it in the World Trade Center to blame
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it on a Central Asian terrorist show that they have a pretext to take over domestic with
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the police state and launch wars in the Middle East.
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Wait, this was on the ex-files?
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Yes, this was on the ex-files.
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And so later I thought maybe I got it from that.
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But then we found tapes even earlier a month before that came out where I was
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already had put it together on the radio.
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I'm sure.
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But here's what's crazy.
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Then I got reached out by some of the host of the X files saying, Hey,
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the host's Chris Carter told us that the CIA came to him with the plot.
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What do you think the X files is?
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David, do you cover these?
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Call you?
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Is he the host of the exiles?
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- The TV program, and then later,
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I corresponded to Chris Carter via email.
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He talked about this in the news,
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like in entertainment publications about,
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"Alex Jones is a really good guy."
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And when they rebooted in 2016 again,
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he talked about the talk show,
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"Her character is based on me."
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So I've talked to him, some of him is crew,
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but he said, "No, I don't know why the CIA
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used to interview him, you know, came to me and said, here's the script for this show.
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So so was it just Alex Jones saying that a government agency was going to hijack a jet
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fly the World Trade Center?
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The ex-files spin off the lone gunman.
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One of its main episodes was about that specific story.
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This is just crazy.
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So I often get, you know, people I know.
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Oh, and they remote control and hijack the jet, the good guys and keep it from crashing
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the World Trade Center.
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Great job.
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So why would why would the CIA come to Chris Carter and say we want you to write
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this and then and then it's released months and months before 9/11.
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So so I'm not the only one.
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It was in the collective unconsciousness.
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I mean, I mean, I don't know.
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Yeah, you don't know.
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So when he says the hosts of the X files, what he means,
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he just doesn't want to say Dean Haglund,
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one of the grown gunmen, one of the actors who was on the show.
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OK.
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Alex interviewed him way back.
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Right.
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He's had him on the show.
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Right.
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And so this is what he's referencing.
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And actually, if you go and find the Dean Hagelin interview that Alex did
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He Alex is trying to say like Chris Carter got a visit from the CIA and they told him to put this in
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Dean Hagelin specifically says like Chris Carter was busy trying to do the X files right at the same time
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We're doing this spinoff. He was really mostly Vince Gilligan who who was doing this show. - Right, right, right, right.
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- So it doesn't even make sense based on the interview
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that Alex did himself, but whatever.
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- Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.
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You're already Project Camelot.
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This is bullshit, right?
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Jush it up.
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- Yeah.
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- If you've already crossed the line
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from anything resembling reality
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and you've gone full into fictional reality,
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then fucking have great times with it.
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But I think that Alex realizes that you risk shaking loose whatever amount of your audience is still connected to reality
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if you go too far.
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And I think that he wants to play both sides.
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And that's why this has this dissonance to it.
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Yeah, it's a little bit like who's who's given him advice these days or is
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he just no one right like what is somebody saying hey don't go too far
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because nobody can be nobody could possibly be saying I'm sure his dad
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could bully him but I don't know if anybody I'm sure he mailed to his dad
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hey bully him into being fun you asshole asshole. Yeah, tell him to lean in.
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Yeah.
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Also, I like this the main episode,
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one of their main episodes.
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Main episodes.
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It was the pilot.
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As opposed to some of their other non-main episodes.
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It was their pilot.
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And that's because the play on words of the title, "pilot."
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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Yeah.
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But also also like,
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he's trying to pretend like I didn't see it till six months later.
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He was explaining the plot two days after the show aired. Yeah.
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You watched that shit, man. Yeah, there was a time.
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There was a time when you really didn't need Facebook or any of those social media sites
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because there were only so many shows. Mm-hmm.
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So you could conceivably just know all of,
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like walking through the day, you'd be like,
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I know all of the TV that's on right now.
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- And I just don't, I don't believe that someone like Alex
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in 2000, 2001 wouldn't watch the X-Files.
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- Absolutely.
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- And be thrilled about the lone government.
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- His favorite show.
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- Yes. - 100%. - Yeah. - And be thrilled about the lone gunman. - His favorite show. - Yes.
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- 100%.
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- Yeah.
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- He would probably be like,
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I wanna grow up to be this someday.
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Like that's what he did.
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- Yeah.
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- Yeah.
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Dean Haglund also said specifically
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that this episode was written a year prior
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to when it came out.
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- So Vince Gilligan predicted 9/11.
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- He must have.
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- Okay.
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- Yeah.
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- If he was the one who wrote the episode,
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he definitely was like one of the producers, one of the main creative forces of. Okay. Yeah. He was the one who wrote the episode. He definitely was like one of the producers. Yeah. One of the main creative forces of the show.
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He did that and then he predicted crystal meth, I guess. Yep. Yep. There we go. So look, when you're a prophet, it's hard.
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Well, it weighs on you. Sure. And so Tucker wants to know about like, what's it like? Is be it, you know, happy? - Don't make me lie to your face.
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- Being tortured by all this information that you have.
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Or is it?
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- Before I ask you what you think the signs
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are pointing to now, like what are your predictions
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for the next five years?
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And then I ask you how your battles
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with the US government are going
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in its attempts to silence you.
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How do you like if you have this ability to do?
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I'm not sucking up.
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It's just again, it's provable to put together a picture, an extraordinarily
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accurate picture of what the future holds.
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Like, what does that do to you?
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How do you sleep and how do you live and like, why haven't you totally destroyed
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yourself?
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Like, that's not those are kind of not thoughts that most people including me are burdened with and don't really want to be burdened with
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But like how do you turn off the visions of the future in your head?
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Well, I I've been I appreciate you saying nice things about me and obviously God gives us all different gifts
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And I do have some gifts, but I think a lot more people have these gifts and then then really
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Realize it, but you can prove it.
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That's why I've obviously were friends and I like you as a man, but you can prove it
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in a way that others can't because it's on tape.
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So it's not really debate as Alex Jones had more accurate predictions in the future than
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any living person in the world that I know of.
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We can prove that.
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We don't argue about it.
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I've got the freakin' thing.
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Again, it's not even a compliment.
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It's just an observation.
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And I don't know why I seem to be the only person who's obsessed with this.
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Like, how did this guy predict this?
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No, everyone's like, oh, he's crazy.
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OK, maybe he's crazy, but he predicted this.
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So my question is like, what does that do to you?
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I mean, it is stressful.
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The responsibility of that researching and looking at all your culture.
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I killed Gene Hackman.
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That's so weak.
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That is crazy.
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That is crazy.
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I don't want to be asked a question like that because that makes me feel like you're
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fucking with me.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Because if you're not fucking with me,
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then it makes me want to ask you a question like,
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"How the fuck do you get through the day?
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"What are you doing if you're asking me this in honesty?"
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Right? - Well, I think that the reason
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that the question is framed as such
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is because Alex isn't playing ball.
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Tucker wants to interview him,
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but he always a fucking psychic and a prophet.
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- Right, right, he's trying to push him into a--
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- Yeah, and Alex is sort of doing these,
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these little hand-asides about like,
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you know, God gave me a gift, but he gives everyone gifts.
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I saw all these data points and he's trying to do that,
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whereas Tucker needs him to be like,
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dude, you have the main line to God.
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- I genuinely, genuinely,
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if he just had the slightest bit of yes, and he might be off to a better start
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Maybe you know or you know replace that yes, and with
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I'm going home
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Yeah, whiskey works. Yeah. Yeah, but this question this line of questioning is weak
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Yeah complaining about how difficult it is to be a psychic is, I don't think that's gonna resonate
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with the alpha audience that Tucker likes to pretend he has.
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It's beta to be stressed and feel responsibility
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about stuff.
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Also the reason that other people maybe aren't as convinced
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by the supposed evidence as Tucker is,
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because they've looked at more evidence
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than just that edited clip that Alex put out
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to market himself as a prophet. - Sure. - Possibly some people have looked at more evidence than just that edited clip that Alex put out to market himself as a prophet. Sure.
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Possibly some people have looked at the larger picture of Alex's career and assessed more than just memes.
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That isn't profitable for Tucker, so he's gonna stick to this game, but man, he seems like an idiot.
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Here's looks so dumb.
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It is.
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It really is just so mean.
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It's so mean for him to either be that good at fucking with Alex to his face or to be that dumb.
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I have the opposite take. Yeah.
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I think Alex is the one who's fucking with him. Really?
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Because Alex screams about how he has prophetic visions on his own fucking show. Sure.
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If you're Tucker, you have every reason to think I'm throwing a softball up. Alex is gonna hit it
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by talking about how much God has told him. Okay. You have every reason to think like this is the
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person that he presents himself to be. Right. This is the kind of conversation that he's going to be
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willing to have. Okay. So you're saying that on a fundamental level, the motivations that we're
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getting this this is the dynamic. Alex is coming in thinking whoa
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I'm glad to take my show off so I can be Tucker show. I can try and present myself to maybe some of the more
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Rational older people who watch Tucker right?
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I can market myself to this audience in a way that isn't buffoonish right and he, and he assumes, because Tucker invited him onto a show, Tucker also wants this.
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- Yeah.
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- Tucker assumes that Alex is going to come in psychic,
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and he assumes that because he invited Alex onto a show.
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- Yeah.
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- So both of them, fundamentally, through the same actions
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have completely different perceptions
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on how this is supposed to go.
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- Yeah, except for the place where the Venn diagram
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overlaps, which I think is that they both want to sanitize and sell Alex. Sure. As being
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something that he's not which is profit and not raises. Right but like this is
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again this is this is just pre-show conversation. It could have helped. Right?
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Yeah. Just do a little bit of preparation. Put a clown nose on Alex. I
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think ultimately so much of this shit is just laziness. Yeah. But they eventually
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get around to it. Okay. Alex does get in the mood a little bit. Okay. Good. And so demons,
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you know, pop up. Yeah, they come up. All right. I'm talking to so many people that weren't
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even Christian or any more religious or weren't even spiritual who are saying it's good versus
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evil. And I talked to so many people. I know they're professionals and they, you know,
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Austin's full of a lot of, know you know particularly rich people and women you
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know just becoming demon possessed I mean literally the Shane Austin they're
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demon possession and and I'm hearing about all over the country all the world
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what is that?
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You shot it.
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Noticable and I'm shot out.
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You shot it.
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Mostly by women.
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The other one that I you are the rock.
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I mean, they're just the best.
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However, what you just described is just on display every day.
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And it's men too.
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You're about the soccer coach that just kidnapped the little kid and took him and killed him
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and threw him in the woods reportedly, allegedly.
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I mean, it's just, I mean, it's men too, but normally in history, it's men that do the
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really openly satanic stuff.
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Yes, exactly.
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And women, you know, 2% of all the crime.
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Now it's there because it's a crisis.
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And women particularly, but men as well, buy into whatever
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they see as the power structure.
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That's a survival mechanism generally.
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It's exactly right.
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But when the power structure is a death cult, by increment,
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they get deeper and deeper.
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I mean, look at these leftists and them in the hundreds
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of photos, they took their shot and they had their abortion or they want to kill Trump
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and you look at it.
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- Were there worse being death in some way?
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- Absolutely, you could see it.
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They all look super unhealthy.
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They look totally insane in the eyes.
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They look like Charlie Manson.
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And so it's, I've seen more and more love in people's eyes,
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more and more spiritual connection to God, more and more of that quiet place of just se more love in people's eyes. More and more spiritual connection to God.
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More and more of that quiet place of just serenity in people.
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And then I'm seeing more and more of the satanic energy.
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So it's really a parting of the sea.
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- Yes. - Yes.
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- So you're saying that things are getting polarized.
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The novel observation that Alex is making.
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- Parting of the sea, it seems like the people I like
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are more likable. - Yeah. - And it seems like the people that I don't like are more
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Unlikeable to the point where one side is angels and the other side is demons seems like maybe things have gotten out of hand
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Yeah, maybe things have gotten out of hand maybe your fucking child that is yeah
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That like honestly that responsive shut up is just like, that's exactly what Tucker deserves.
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So fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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Yes.
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Fuck you.
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Oh, how dare you make those noises.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Unbelievable.
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Good.
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So Alex expounds on this a little bit further
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about how his enemies are demon possessed.
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Sure.
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That'll happen.
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And then Tucker tells a second-hand story
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that I don't think is necessary. And then Tucker tells a second dance story. I don't think it's necessary.
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And these people that are influenced by satanic energy by literal spiritual forces, demons,
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they are the slaves. And when they're not out doing evil and persecuting people,
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they don't even feel like they're alive and they're desperate and they're scared
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and and and they're lost and then they get driven forward by this dark force
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to look, it'll be all right once you just go out
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and once you take these people out.
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It's the good people that are making you feel bad.
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It's them, destroy them, then you'll have peace.
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And that's the deeper understanding I've had
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of how this satanic system works.
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- It's so clearly true.
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And if you ask, if there's anyone
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that you've really focused on, I don't know, George Soros or Larry Fink.
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I mean, just the other day, I was talking to someone
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who knows where you think really well.
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And I was saying, I think Larry Fink is like,
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I don't know what I've never met Larry Fink,
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but boy, he's responsible for a lot of suffering
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from my perspective.
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And this person said there's no one more unhappy
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than Larry Fink, like nobody.
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And I was just with him in a car.
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He was like screaming at someone on the phone.
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This guy's made billions of dollars and personally tormented.
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And I know a bunch of people because I know a lot of the people involved in things that
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I think are really evil.
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And there's not a happy one among them.
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Oh, I think so unhappy according to some guy I talked to tragic never met this person, but I'm going to characterize him as miserable
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You know, it's crazy. It's it's wild. Yeah, all those people with all the money their lives are terrible
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You wouldn't want it. Mm-hmm. You would not don't don't ever want that kind of thing
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You also did see Tucker slipping up a little bit towards the end there where he's talking about how I'm friends with all
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I know all those people we're all we all
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summer and we're all together pretty much all the time yes so miserable we
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play tennis together we have a standing appointment we have the devil we have
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the most miserable vacations one time awful we went to Sicily it was fucking
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awful ever said terrible we walked through the other why it's too much
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stress it's too much stress sitting on the sitting on the beach looking out at
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the vastness of the ocean wondering about God's creation when whether or not
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we were meant to enjoy it I hated this one time we went to Dubai and we went to
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the tallest building in the world sure I went to it we were just like hanging
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out in infinity pool on the top of the biggest building in the world.
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Yeah, it sucked.
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Yeah.
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Everyone was so sad.
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Yeah.
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Miserable.
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This is awful.
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Yeah.
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Cool, man.
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Yeah, great.
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Great work.
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So I think that there is an internal tension here that they are kissing the ass of really
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rich people.
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Sure.
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Well, having like pretended to create this populist image of themselves and Trump
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and this. And I feel like this next clip really sums up Alex's attempt at squaring the circle.
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And I just don't think it works. You know, we're always hearing Elon Musk, we're just
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going on the world. Well, he's a guy that has been good at keeping the companies under his control. So he independently is the most powerful person, corporate science, communications,
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Titan. But then they spend it like, Oh, he's the establishment. No, Trump, as you know,
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has a very small orbit of independent billionaires that are defending him because they want
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to stabilize civilization for everybody's good.
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But when you look at the international power and the large S, it's been against Trump.
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More and more, they realize they're losing because the people are with Trump.
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Yes. Trump has an inner click of benevolent oligarchs.
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So you small group, let's say between, I don't know, eight and 14, a small group of extremely wealthy individuals
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together who possibly have financial interests that run counter to those of the rest of the
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international community right are together making decisions.
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Now, perhaps I would suggest maybe we would find all of those names on Epstein's flight
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logs. So you're saying these are the benevolent ones that there is a small billionaire company Now perhaps I would suggest maybe we would find all of those names on Epstein's flight logs
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So you're saying these are the benevolent ones that there is a small billionaire cabal of pedophiles who are running the world right now
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Alex am I correct in you saying that not not exactly they're benevolent oligarchs
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Okay, so a small group of benevolent pedophile billionaires is running the world is that what you're trying to tell me?
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I mean, I just think that there's nothing more comical than Alex saying something like this. I just think Trump has
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a small group that he keeps close to good billionaires. There's just no other way to
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describe it than Alex is saying that it's okay for there to be a small billionaire pedophile
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football. If they if they're into Trump, right? Yeah, it's cool. That's what he's into. I don't think that it would be a deal breaker. I mean, obviously, I mean, yeah, it's what's
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happening. Yeah. So Tucker and Alex had a conversation prior to their recording. Yeah.
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And Alex brings this up. And I think that Alex thinks that he has said he's talked out
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of school. Yes. But I don't think he has.
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I think he's fine, but he gets a little self-conscious.
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And we were just talking last night.
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I hope you would repeat that because you were asking me with some folks who were talking
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to about what my view is, basically on the geopolitical new landscape.
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And I laid my out my view.
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He said, no, I think that's dead on.
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And then you said basically if you feel like repeating it, that then we need
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to sell it very clearly on this team or your own that team, because it really is team
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Chico, EU globalist, new world order. That's, that's what's left. You know, the UK don't
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trust them who runs it, but they're trying to come in under a US alliance. And America
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in the world needs to understand there's a new international system forming the old one
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fell. And we better decide what this new system's gonna look like
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and who's gonna be in charge of it,
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because that's the way it is.
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- So think about how you'll feel
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when you achieve your biggest goals of all,
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whether it's starting a business,
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paying off your mortgage, send your kids to college,
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now I'm the money to pay for it.
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You'll be pretty proud when you've met these essential life goals,
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and you should be proud, all the sorrow, we do that.
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But what do you do next? So getting to the goals is one thing,
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but protecting them is an entirely different thing and maybe a bigger thing.
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And this is where life insurance from Policy Genius comes in. Now Policy
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Genius makes finding and buying life insurance really easy. Cool. So I kept
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that as that because it's commercial breaks are very jarring. Yeah. You know
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they kind of come out of nowhere
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I was in the middle of a thought and now we're talking about life insurance. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep
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It's clunky and unprofessional. I would say I as somebody who's recording a podcast out of his apartment. I mean it's it
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You know like sometimes if you're listening to a true crime podcast and they're talking about the tragic and horrific murder of somebody and then they're like, and now a hello apron
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fresh is here to, you know, you're like, Oh, what you're revealing is the valuelessness
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that you treat life with.
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Sure.
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You know, that kind of thing.
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If you're talking about like the importance of the world and how everything is black and
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white and you're on our team or you're against us.
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- It's good versus it.
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The Bible cannot have inserts for coupons.
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- No, it's poor form.
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- It just can't, it can't, it can't.
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- And it does.
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- That's how weird it is.
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- Yeah, I would have chosen better at it points
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if I were Tucker or whoever's producing the show but a petty criticism on my part I guess I
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think that this black and white thinking is pretty stupid probably but I
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don't think that Tucker has a any problem with what Alex is saying sure he's not
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like he's not telling some conversation they had on air that would get him in
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trouble or anything so they come back from the commercial and thus begins the talk of how great Russia is
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and how we need to side with them or else.
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Cool.
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To now project that around the world and so the globalists are being destroyed by their
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own Frankenstein monster and then the EU's decided to ally with China and again the UK
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is at least on the surface.
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I think, like, no, they want to be in a new anglophile alliance
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with the, quote, US empire.
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And again, the US has a limited window
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to get everybody on board with us.
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And then our alliance, easily with the key countries
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in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, central among it,
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and some other alliances.
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And then obviously an open economic alliance
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with Russia who wants an economic alliance
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and has more resources than any country in the world.
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I mean, that is the real chess board,
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and that's why the left and the globalists
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wanna drive America and Russia apart,
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because geographically and also militarily
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and then also scientifically and
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then just raw material. Of course, that is the obvious. If you're if you're if you believe
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Russia's at greatest enemy, if you are working full time to divide the United States from
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Russia, you are acting against the interests of the United States. You hate the United
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States. You hate the West. You want to see it fall. They hate Russia because it's a way
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Christian country as a fact. Why Russia? In all of this, once you take three steps back makes perfect sense.
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Like we have a lot of people in our country working actively for the destruction of the West of Christian civilization.
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So that's just a fact.
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This stands for the way they don't, you know, people don't like it when you say that,
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but they don't like it when you say it because it's absolutely true.
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And the farther you get from the United States, that's one of the great benefits of travel the more obvious
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It is like you can't you don't know you're married to an alcoholic until you go on vacation without that person
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You're like oh shit. I'm married to an alcoholic like you can't see any of this when you're in the middle of it
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But when you leave it's like oh my gosh, so yeah, they hate Russia because it's a white Christian country
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So yeah, they hate Russia because it's a white Christian country.
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It's always amazing. They always managed to do it.
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And that's the thing that they do so well because it's what everybody,
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it's what everybody kind of gets pushed into of like, oh, they hate Russia.
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Russia's our enemy.
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It's like, let's be, I've got to be 100% clear on this.
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Everybody in Russia is totally fucking fine.
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Yeah.
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Kill Putin.
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This is a guy.
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This is a guy in like 20 billionaires who work for him.
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- Yeah, it's a guy and the control over the government.
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- Yeah, this is nothing to do with Russia
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as an imaginary concept.
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This is, it's a guy, it's a guy.
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Just go kill that guy.
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- It's not about whiteness, Christianness, or anything.
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- That guy wants stuff.
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I don't know how else to describe it other
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than there's a guy who wants other people shit. Yeah, there's an emperor. Yeah.
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Gotta kill that guy. It's not complicated. It's simpler than Tucker
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would like it to be. For sure. Yeah. I mean like I just I think the argument
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that hating Russia because it's a white Christian country is stupid. Yeah.
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Considering all of the white Christian country or countries that Tucker would classify as
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white Christian countries.
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Right.
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That aren't treated the same way because they haven't invaded their neighbors constantly
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and they aren't run by a guy who's very clearly an emperor.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Nobody's coming after like Portugal and shit.
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Mm hmm.
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Right.
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Or France.
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Yeah. Yeah. Let's get them. Luxembourg, France.
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I want Portugal and Luxembourg, France on my desk by Monday. I did give Trump time.
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So any Russia is great. Sure. And I think that one of the things that's underlying this
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messaging that Tucker has is we have to just do everything we can to support and get in
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line with Russia because otherwise China wins. And I think that's maybe at like
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if you pushed him hard enough that's what would come out. Yeah. You squeezed him
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like a grape that's the juice. Right, right, right. The best rational explanation.
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Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're not white enough.
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- Right.
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- Yeah.
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- So Alex, as we know from our last episode that we did,
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one of his employees was murdered.
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- Yes.
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- And this comes up.
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- Great.
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- I bet we're gonna treat it with all the reverence
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that it deserves.
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- Man, it's respectful.
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- Oh boy.
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- There are signs that it's, you know,
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we're entering a violent stage.
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I pray that we're not, but it feels like we are.
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You just had a long time employee assassinated.
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I don't know, the extent to which you wanna talk about that,
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but what was that?
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Is it a harbinger of things to come?
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- Well, a month ago, Jamie White, a great reporter,
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great guy.
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We were working up there Sunday night till about nine o'clock. I left he went home and
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then got shot to the carotid artery one shot through his neck.
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And then out the back of it, he bled to death by the time we
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got to the hospital about 15 minutes later, the police got
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to very how we're losing. He was 36. Yeah. And he was on
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Bobber brain hit list law myself and you and a bunch of other
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people and everybody getting the SWAT calls the SWAT team sitting their myself and you and a bunch of other people and everybody
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getting the SWAT calls the SWAT team sitting their houses and their families has been on
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that list as well.
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Just basically everyone you know.
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Yes.
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And then of course you have a new venture to American journalists guns on a layer of
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death and then celebrated that.
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And so and and of course we have the the would be assassin down in Marlago, who was a big leftist, connected all these
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intelligence agencies recruiting hundreds of fighters for Ukraine, an
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American, then he comes back and tries to kill Trump.
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So I guess the DA is off the hook.
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I guess we've landed on going with Ukraine.
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I guess Ukraine is a fascinating man.
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Damn.
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Damn.
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Jamie White.
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See, this is what I'm saying.
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I'd be furious if I was a Ukrainian and I'm like,
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"Look, I'm looking at this list.
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"I'm going down the list.
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"All right, if this is the guy you've got for me,
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"this is not competence.
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"This is not good."
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- You think it doesn't rank in terms of targets?
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- It's not, listen, I'm just shoot for the sky.
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Sky thinking, you know? Well, look,
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I'm reluctant to talk like this because I even I think this is even a little bit disrespectful
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of the fact that someone died and that is tragic. But in an RPG, sure, you can't go against the boss
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immediately, right? You need to build up your character. That's a good point. So I think that
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I think that if you're looking at the list all right
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I I say saying we're getting some experience points before we can level up to take down Tucker
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I don't know Alex. Thanks. I thought is real. I can't I think RPGs are real
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I'm saying that I'm following along with you my friend
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This is a yes, and if ever there was one I just think this is fucking gross
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I think that they should be ashamed of themselves and whatever.
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Yeah, I mean, fuck them.
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So Tucker explains in this next clip how we've lost to Russia already.
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Lost what?
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Everything.
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Oh, OK.
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So one thing I don't.
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One fact I don't think is penetrated.
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The brains of policymakers in Washington
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is that we just lost a war with Russia.
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The US was running that war. The US military, the Pentagon, the State Department.
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Did we have to give them new backs of color?
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Against Russia. It was never about Ukraine.
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No one in Washington cares about Ukraine or the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men destroyed.
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The fact will be populated by third worlders. I mean, Ukraine, we just eliminated Ukraine. Nobody cares.
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This was a war against Russia, the hate Russia for a lot of reasons,
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mostly spiritual. But we lost. And my concern is because nobody will say that out loud
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that we're overstating our power. And in the same way that you sometimes see like
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divorced 60 year old guys hitting on young women and don't realize that young women think this is
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like absurd. You're like an old man.
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Why?
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You really think I'm going to sleep with you?
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But the 60 year old guy hasn't readjusted to the reality of his present condition.
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He still thinks he's 25.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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And he humiliates himself.
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That can happen at the level of nations where you think you can affect outcomes that you
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actually don't have the power to bring about.
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And so that's called hubris.
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And that's how empires get destroyed in populations.
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Very hubris and I'm really afraid of that.
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Like white, not mismanagement.
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We should know that we were not able to win a conventional war against Russia.
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Period.
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So like, what does that say about our power?
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And maybe we should readjust our expectations a little bit.
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I don't want that to be true, by the way.
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I want, I'm reading for, I'm American, I'm not leaving.
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My family's buried here, but like, don't you think that we run the risk of thinking we're
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capable of things that we're not capable of doing?
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Well, it's an example.
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Hillary had a lot of fraud baked in, but Trump won in such a landslide.
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He beat her.
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And then a lot of Republicans and conservatives and populace thought Trump was going to win
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for sure, so we'd have as big a turnout.
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So they were able to steal 2020.
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But there was such a giant landslide this time.
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It overrode the mail-in ballots of the dead people, the illegal aliens voting, all of
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that they ran out of bullets.
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So it's fun how Alex just starts off on an unrelated topic here because it kind of feels
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connected to what Tucker was saying.
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And he really doesn't know how to respond directly to that.
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Tucker said the US is like a 60 year old trying to pick up a young woman at a bar. The country
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is oblivious to the fact that it doesn't have the abilities that it once had. It's over
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the hill as Toby Keith might put it. It's not as good as it once was. Yeah. If you follow
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Tucker's thought he's saying that the US needs to know its role and submit to Russia
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We can't beat Russia so Russia makes the rules if they want to invade Ukraine
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We don't have a say in that because we can't beat them
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Alex should not agree with this he also supports Putin
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But in a way that Tucker's articulating this is defeatist and it's a bit anti-patriotic
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To relate it back to Toby Keith Alex can believe that us is not as good as it once was, but he has to believe that it
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was it's as good once as it ever was. We can kick any country's ass if we put
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our mind to it and actually try because the USA is the best even at our worst.
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Without this feeling, Alex's entire worldview crumbles right in front of him.
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Yeah. Putin has a distinct advantage in this conflict that Tucker seems to be ignoring, which is
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that he's acting in violation of international law and norms.
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He invaded a neighboring country and seized territory, which he's able to get away with
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because other countries are scared that a full military response would prompt him to
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escalate things to nuclear weapons.
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The US is one of those countries that's scared scared and they have to tiptoe around the conflict as opposed to addressing it directly, which
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is a disadvantage. Putin knows that unless there's a justification for these NATO countries
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entering the war as active participants, it's probably not going to happen and his place
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in the world stage is going to be unchanged. He's already seen as an undemocratic dictator
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by most of the world and him giving
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up on this war, it's not going to improve that image. So long as he doesn't invade
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a NATO country or do something that would cause the larger powers to get involved, there's
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no real upside to him not acting like an emperor. Tucker's take on this is strange and it's
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kind of hard to square with any kind of America first ideas, but you can see that Alex knows he needs to buy some time
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before responding to this.
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I mean, I find it really fascinating because it is an echo of something that is like,
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is the American thought process, right?
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Can't win a conventional war.
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Like, to be clear on this,
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America could win any war that it wanted to fight yeah if it was fought on
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In America because you would have to cross an ocean and
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Then land and that's not going to happen right so any war the saying of war in these people's minds is like well
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We send a bunch of people over there to die right?
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Right and we can't immediately win that as though that was ever a possibility, right?
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Like you can't just, like the problem is again,
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oceans are very big.
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- They are.
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- That's the big issue.
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We don't need to, no, we can't fight a war
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with anybody really unless we send a bunch of people there
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'cause nobody's sending them here.
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- Unless we wanted to fuck around with Canada.
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- Right, we would have to fight a war with Canada,
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which is like, what?
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What are we doing?
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- Well, Trump's trying.
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- What are you gonna take territory?
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Like it's always, it's gotta be reminded that like,
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but the war that they're talking about
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is taking other people's shit.
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It's not like we're fighting to save the day, you know?
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- Well, I think in essence, a large part of like what's behind Tucker and Alex and all of,
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you know, like where they're coming from is that they just don't really believe in sovereignty of other countries.
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Yeah.
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They believe in it for the United States, but they don't really believe in in like the borders that exist for other countries.
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Yeah, there's a ranking system,
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and if you're not on top, you're a colony of everybody else.
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- If you're not strong enough, you are food.
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- Yeah.
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- And that's, you know, Tucker and Alex
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believe that Russia is strong enough to not be food,
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whereas Ukraine isn't,
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and we shouldn't be supporting food over predator.
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- I mean-- - You know, that's sure. Kind of.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Tucker brings up something and it's not not really true.
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Well, they got in the middle of the war.
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This just came out the other day.
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Depending on wrote an assessment saying that they calculated
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that if we gave weapons to Ukraine that allowed the Ukrainian military
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or our military using Ukraine as a proxy to hit
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targets within Russia they judged the likelihood of a nuclear exchange at 50% and
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They did it anyway at that point like you should be in prison for the criminally insane. Well, that's right if Russia moved
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You're risking nuclear war
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Like you should be locked up. I don't even believe that. I mean, I of course
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intuitively knew that. And say that again. That's important to sink in from the
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that the Pentagon under Joe Biden assessed like because they assess the likelihood of everything
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or they get you know, they guess they sort of work out how they think things will progress. But
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I mean, every scenario globally they do this is what they do at the Pentagon. And they assess that
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if we gave certain weapons
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Weapons that allowed the Ukrainians to strike targets within Russia if we did that which we did
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The chance of a nuclear exchange nuclear Holocaust that killed everybody on earth would be 50%
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And they did it anyway
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So imagine the kind of fucking idiot with that evil kind of fucking moron thinks this shit
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Supernatural forces to do so
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I think there's a fifth act and chance there we are super natural never mind killed in a new
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rich track doing it anyway like why are you how are you still walking free I'm serious nope and
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I'm glad you brought that assessment up because I really tried to be able to focus on that and I
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agree with that assessment so assuming that everything that Tucker said there is true, then consider what the conclusion
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would be.
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If someone is likely to use nuclear weapons, you should do whatever they want.
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Might makes right.
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This is a profoundly shallow and dumb perspective on international relations.
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And when you throw in that supernatural forces shit to it, Tucker really sounds like someone
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who thinks he's doing children's television.
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So I found an article in Proveda covering this Pentagon document that Tucker's talking
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about. Actually, it was covering Tucker telling Alex about the documents more likely. No one
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knows what this document actually is. Yeah, because it doesn't exist. The US didn't do
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an assessment that found that if they supplied weapons to Ukraine, it would lead to a 50%
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chance of Putin using nukes. This is a misrepresentation of a story about how a Russian general named Sergei
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Serovikin, he really wanted to use a tactical nuke to stop the October 2022
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Advance that Ukrainian forces were making towards Khursam.
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US intelligence overheard this and upgraded their assessment for the likelihood of nuclear weapons being used from about 10% to 50%.
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assessment for the likelihood of nuclear weapons being used from about 10% to 50%. In response to this, the US under Biden advocated that the Ukrainian forces ease up, so as
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to not risk triggering this general's desired plan to use tactical nukes.
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There's no real consensus on whether or not that guy's plan would have been adopted,
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but the fact that he was pushing that made US leaders raise their concerns.
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And now Tucker is lying about those circumstances in order to prop up Putin.
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He's a fucking idiot.
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This is insane.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, well, yeah.
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All these people are dumb.
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Yeah.
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And I think I think really the way that they present this information and how they're like
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discussing it.
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Yeah.
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It relies on a malice and an expectation
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that the people listening are dumb too.
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- Yeah, absolutely.
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- It's who would do this?
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They must be demons.
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Like it's outrageous.
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- Man, remember "Progosian"?
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Remember how he got blown up in that helicopter?
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That's crazy.
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What a fucking idiot.
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- That guy really tried.
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He swam. - Putin must have had his family a family right that had to have been the only thing I
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don't know because that's fucking dumb yeah that's one of the great dumb moves
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of all time yeah this guy who advocated for the nukes actually he
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disappeared for a little while and there was talk that it was because he
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might have been mixed up with Progosian sounds about right and the that that
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attempted coup yeah but he's still alive and and and so that that was just he or say I don't
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know if that's actually I don't if there's any validity to it yeah you know
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but that's that's they're just they're just people who don't know when to get
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the fuck out just don't know you don't know who you're fucking dealing with
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mmm crazy but the thing the thing that's nuts is like that Wagner
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drag uprising and shit they could have done something I don't know I don't think they
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could have succeeded but they could have done more damage than they did I don't know
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if you listen listen if you're playing the game and I hate to say this you either win
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the game of thrones or you get blown up in a
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fucking helicopter. It shouldn't be complicated at this point, right? What is
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a helicopter but a dragon? Exactly. What an idiot. So Tucker, I think is stupid.
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I think I've made this point and I'm gonna stand by it. And I think him
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discussing the issue of nuclear power in this next clip
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I think it really helps make my case that he's stupid
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Never run right they always have scenarios where they're not gonna leak basically all the silly stupid conservatives like the answer is nuclear
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You want more AI data centers comma, which I don't answer's coal
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answers Cole. I don't understand. Wait, everyone. This is just sidebar. I'll stop in one sentence. But like those of us
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who grew up in the 70s and 80s, remember that all the opponents
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nuclear power were like, you know, furry armpit dumb people. And
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you know, all the Greenpeace people, once you're just like, Oh,
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shut up, nuclear is obviously the solution. Like you just don't
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understand science. How can you be against climate change
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and also against nuclear power?
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I've said that myself, like a hundred times on TV,
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but it's not about the spent fuel rods
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when we do with nuclear waste.
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That's easy, put it in your compound.
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It's about what if these things are untended?
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What if they're, you know,
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the subject of a conventional or nuclear attack?
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- And you look at all the mismanagement.
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- Massive vulnerability.
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Like why doesn't anyone mention that some people might mention
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stuff what the fuck are you talking about like this this idea that he argued in
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favor of nuclear power because the people who were against it were furry
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armpited hippies yep like that's what he does that like why would you ever expect
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any of his positions to have any deeper rooting than
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that?
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That's the kind of person he is.
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Yep.
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I fucking hate these dirty hippies.
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I don't want to listen to anything they say.
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So the opposite of what they say is correct.
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It's oppositional defiance turned into a worldview.
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Yeah.
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It's pathetic.
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These are the people I want to hang out with.
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So I'll say what they say.
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Because I want to hang out with them, that means they must be right because I want to hang out with so I'll say what they say. - Mm-hmm. - Because I want to hang out with them, that means they must be right.
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Because I want to be right.
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- Uh-huh.
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- But because I don't want to hang out with those people,
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what they say must be wrong.
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- They smell like patchouli.
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- Right, but you know, it doesn't matter
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what my people smell like,
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because they smell like what I like them to smell like.
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- I don't like sitting on bean bags,
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therefore I am for nuclear energy.
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- It really isn't that--
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- Oh whoops, I've completely changed my position now.
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It's shocking that your belief system is fucking malleable
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when it comes based on entirely,
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I wanna hang out with this guy today.
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Yeah, I think he's stupid.
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I think he's fucking stupid and it's a mistake to take
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even the toxic, noxious positions
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that he has all that seriously.
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Crazy.
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This idea that Russia beat us in this war and all this stuff
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I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't defend any of that shit in like five years. Why yeah, why would you?
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Yeah, he's a worm. He's he's fine. He's been against the Iraq war. He's been for the Iraq war
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He's been against the Iraq war. He's been for the Iraq. Who cares what he's been against Alex
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He's been for Alex. Absolutely none of it means anything. No. Yeah. So Trump, I think that
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we can say that he's a bit destabilizing. Sure. He's a little chaotic. Sure. Maybe extremely
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predictable if you're not a fucking moron. I don't know. I don't know if that's true.
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I think some things are still a little bit.
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Oh, my field.
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Alex, on the other hand, believes him to be a stabilizing force in the world.
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Well, I'd like to talk to folks out there saying Trump is being a destabilizer.
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The globalist order was collapsing by their own corruption and mismanagement and their
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alliance with China being double crossed. And so that order was already being collapsed by them. And Trump's coming in very
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pragmatically with a good, fair, freedom-based meritocracy, competition-based system. But
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two people that want to talk about destabilization, starting to war with Russia, totally stabilization,
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dissolving the borders and all the human smuggling and the fentanyl, totally stabilization, in engaging all this overspending and the
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country basically being bankrupt if we don't grow our way out of it, totally
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stabilization, and then wink wink the attempted assassinations of Trump. What
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do they think would have happened if Trump really would have gotten killed in
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Pennsylvania in July of last year or a few months later in Florida?
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If you look at the scenarios there, they run from bad to worse.
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So the real destabil...
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And bad for the people behind it.
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Like clearly those assassinations were not lone gunmen.
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They were part of a much, much larger conspiracy, obviously.
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Everyone knows that.
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But those people behind those attempted murders would have been in bigger trouble
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had those murders succeeded attempted murder succeeded
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correct? Absolutely. And if somebody's able to kill Trump
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now, people better hope he doesn't get struck by a
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multilightening because the bad guys will get the blame. And
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that's why so many people that have kind of been on the fence,
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the establishment, but we're working with the global issues
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because that was the system are enthusiastically joining Trump and Elon
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Because they understand that this is the only game in town for people that aren't delusional. Oh, that sounds kind of mafia-like
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Hmm, so you can say a lot of stuff about Trump and make up plenty of reasons to support him if you want
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But claiming that he's stabilizing as a force that does not work. It's interesting that Tucker is concluded that the assassination attempts were a labory
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globalist conspiracies because that definitely hasn't been proven. He gets around the need
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for proof with that. Come on, it's obvious. It's obvious that act, but that's obvious
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fucking full of shit. It's obvious. You see this mirrored and celebrated with Alex, where
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he's saying that the globalists better hope that Trump doesn't get struck by lightning
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because they'll end up getting blamed. If the globalists get blamed for Trump getting struck by lightning,
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then the people have been fooled, and they're not operating off of any kind of solid information base, and that is what Alex is pumped about.
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He's helped rot the information economy so bad that a lot of people operate
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off conclusions now, and they're willing to accept any explanation for why things are
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happening if they adhere to the conclusions that they already have.
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The globalists will want to kill Trump as a tenant of the far right faith now, so if
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Trump dies, then people will be willing to accept any explanation of his death that
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adheres to that tenant of their faith. If he has a heart attack, the people will be willing to accept any explanation of his death that adheres to that tenant of their faith.
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If he has a heart attack, the people will still blame the globalists.
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This is not working off reality.
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In essence, Alex and Tucker are relishing the fact that they live in a completely malleable
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and fake information economy where nothing they say really matters so long as it's in
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service of their narrative.
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If you understand what they're saying properly, Alex saying that people will blame the globalist if Trump gets struck by lightning
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is a serious insult about the people listening's critical thinking skills. And he's kind of mocking
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them. Yeah. You'll believe anything I say as long as it works for what you want to believe.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's, you know, it's interesting is I think one of the underlying assumptions that I never really
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examined too often is that
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Tucker is assuming that they want to get away with it
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You know like he's assuming if you are doing something you want to get if you're doing a crime
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You want to get away with said crime so that nobody can post pin it on you as opposed to being like
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Like I'm willing to die for this. Yeah, you know like the what's his bill?
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Helm, right like those guys had tuberculosis and cyanide pills like the idea was not
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We're gonna make it through this and and we'll sneak away and get away with it like yeah. Yeah, yeah
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It's it's I'm going out on this one is the point. You know well
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Yeah, I think that that's that kind of intersects with like the weirdness of how that hit my ears with him being like
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Things would have been worse for the assassins. Yeah, if they succeeded
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They could died right?
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Died the reason I do this is as death
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But how could it have been any worse for him? Right. And this is where the disparity in realities work because when you say the people behind it, we don't even
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agree on who's behind it. Yeah. Like, yeah, obviously. What are you talking of things
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would be worse for the people behind? Then kill them or something. I don't know. Sure.
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What are you talking about things would be worse? Jesus Christ. something. I don't know. Sure. What are you talking about things would
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be worse? Jesus Christ. Yeah. I can't. I can't believe how trivially they're dealing with what
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they imagined to be a demonic cabal that tried to kill their president. Yeah. Like I don't understand.
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It's their real chill about it.
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Yeah. Oh well.
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Well, all right.
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So something else that Alex is chill about is his legal issues.
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Sure.
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You could say that he was sued for defaming and harassing and profiting off of
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that doesn't sound true.
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Fundraising the based on the harassment.
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If that were true, I think things would be different victims of tragedy.
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Or he's fighting the government
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That one sounds right
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So it just so happens that Alex just got some pretty bad news. Oh, yeah the government's after him. Yeah
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So in a way, it's fortuitous that I'm here today
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Because you were here. I was talking to my lawyer right before we started taping
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We got some really big news that in Connecticut the Supreme Court
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I said we're not even hearing your appeal now, because it was so strong. The kangaroo show trial
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was too strong through there a few years ago, where the judge already found me guilty.
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Wouldn't let me see of what of having an old four box being six or whatever.
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Those are legal under the US Constitution. Like you cannot be punished for giving your
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opinion. I don't care how ugly other people think it is and and you've
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contested even gave the payment doesn't doesn't matter under our system you're
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allowed to see what you think period of especially at the bill of rights is
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and we have a supreme court rulings
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uh... with the new york times all of them
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so you we got uh... some bad news for alex the connecticut supreme court is
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not going to hear his case
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uh... that he lost
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and then he appealed
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and the appeals court agreed with the lower courts ruling
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and then now he tried to appeal to the supreme court and then they're not
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interested
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so i guess he's got the u_s_ supreme court
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uh... but i don't think that's going to work either
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i don't think they're going to want to meddle into this
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uh... so yeah he's fucked
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he's straight fucked. Well for I mean like
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In as much as anyone who's really rich who tries to avoid consequences can ever be truly fucked
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Right. This isn't going anywhere is what I'm saying sure that 900 million or whatever in Connecticut right is on it
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He's on him. I just refuse to believe that this, you know? Like I've just let it all go.
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He faces no actual, so that's fine.
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- Yeah.
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- Like I've just let it go.
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- It's hard, it's hard at this point to ever be like,
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ah, it's coming around the road.
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- Don't even care anymore.
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- But I think we can all acknowledge
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that this is not the news he wanted.
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- Right, right, not yet.
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- I think you would have liked to go to the Connecticut
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Supreme Court and do some
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PR things outside the courthouse and
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Yeah. Everybody wants to hit a 95 yard Hail Mary.
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It's not always going to happen. But hey, if you if it does,
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that's the best day of your life. So Alex, obviously, I think half of this
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show was supposed to be about how he's a prophet. Right.
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And then the other half was supposed to be about lying about the Sandy Hook case.
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- Great.
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- And so the fact that he lost
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or the Supreme Court rejected his case
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is kind of fortuitous.
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- That is nice.
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That gives him something to talk about.
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- Yeah, it leads them easily into
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lying about what that was all about.
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- Great.
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- And what they did was
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with all these PR firms and massive thousands of articles
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sometimes a month and hundreds of TV programs a year, they built a straw man once I was censored off the internet the last
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seven years, still on my website, M4s.com, still on some talk radio, but it was the
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verbot and thing people had to go get underground. They could then build a straw man of things
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I had supposedly done. I never did. And then when I wasn't defended other than people like
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you, it set the precedent to then come after everybody else, including
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President Trump when he was taking off everything on January 6. So people couldn't hear him saying be peaceful before
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I defended black nationalists who hate whites. Obviously don't agree with them. I am white. It's where my kids like I reject their program
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But they were indicted for giving their opinions and like we cannot allow that. And now the ACLU is just completely captured.
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It's like a training organization, nothing to do with free speech.
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Like, where are the people who will stand up for the foundational right that separates
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a free man from a slave?
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What's just the right to say what you think?
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And why were they also may they bask in shame for not defending you?
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I mean that.
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Well, I have a major update.
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It's in the last seven years of them suing me and this whole saga,
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we now have basically all the pieces of exactly what happened. I told you some about it last night.
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We would take a few minutes, but I could just give people a basic summation of what's happened.
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Yeah, please.
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But first, just an example of free speech. In Texas, there's famous cases where they take
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people's small children because the school secretly convinces them with grant money they get paid for public and
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private. They little boys really a girl little girls really a boy.
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Let me prime you first and the parents find out the school's been
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putting them in the database giving them a social worker,
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sending them to special school times with peer pressure of other kids
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that have been put in the cult for sterilization, transhumanism.
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So yeah, I mean, that's exactly right. Your response is exactly right. Alex is like, my case is gonna be thin here and I'm gonna need to get y'all excited. So I'm gonna do some transphobia here and get everyone on board.
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In the right mood, I look like I have a strong case. But if you're in the wrong mood, boy, it does not look good for me. Yeah. And the uniting glue that we all have here on this extreme right wing shithead media
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sphere is that we all really are mad about trans.
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Fun.
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All right.
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So he just does his normal just regular just the spiel about his case.
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Right.
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All of the talking.
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We've heard him tell Tucker all these things.
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God, I would I would give so much to never have to hear this exact same case.
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I've heard it before.
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Yeah.
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A courtroom during and inside a courtroom and then inexplicably after many times
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more courtrooms and then somehow inexplicably still more outside of these courtrooms.
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Yeah.
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So we're not going to listen to the classic retelling that we've heard over and over and over again.
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It'd be nice. All that except where it necessary to get some
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of Tucker's responses. Great. I'm giving 20 plus things I can't talk about. My lawyers
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are sanctioned. If they try to raise that word at all, I'll show and say this word.
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You do this. No evidence can be showed to counter them. They could just say whatever
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they wanted to. And then they have a billion and a half dollar judgment in Connecticut. They have a $50 million judgment total or $49 million in Texas.
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Because I'm already found guilty. Then the judge tells them to say how guilty I am.
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They lie and totally exaggerate all the money I have. So I got it from these people with no
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evidence. And so I know it's being railroaded for my speech. They said in the Connecticut trial
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and in the Texas show trial and on the courthouse steps, we don't want money for Mr. Jones we want to shut him down. They said that in court
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filings so I go into bankruptcy because I'm out of money personally never had all this
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money they said not even a fraction of it and so for three years I'm in bankruptcy and
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they keep going and say we don't want money we want him closed the judge keeps saying
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no you have to actually you know do a settlement with him or we have to sell him for wars and this is all because you said something that other people said they were offended by
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Yes, but but but how can you I don't understand in a free country how other people being offended by what you say?
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Can have you destroyed by the state? Well, well, it's more than that. They said I sent people to their houses, I peed on graves,
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all this stuff that nobody did.
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Why weren't you arrested?
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You can't pee on a grave.
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Why weren't you arrested?
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I've been to Connecticut.
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Why weren't you arrested?
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I'm out of the grave.
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Out of the people that sued me.
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I only said the name of one of the people ever.
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If you commit a crime, you should be criminally charged for it.
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And the state has to prove that you did it, at which point
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you're convicted and punished.
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If the state accuses you of something but doesn't charge
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you with it, there are fucking liars.
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So Tucker is getting mad about a fake version of Alex's case because he has two really false
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premises that he's working with. The first is that the government sued Alex and the second
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is that he was sued because he offended someone. Neither of these things are true, but if you pretend that the government sued Alex because
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he offended someone, it's really easy to champion his cause as some kind of a free speech thing,
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which is why they're doing this dumb bullshit.
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These dicks can't make any of their arguments on the merits, so they just create these fake
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versions of what happened to get mad about and make themselves the victim of everything.
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Fuck you, fuck this nonsense, and does Tucker not understand civil courts?
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Like, what does he talk about?
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I don't even know.
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I was just going to get indicted for this.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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My thought whenever I heard him talk was I got rid of all the content of what he was
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saying. Otherwise that would drive me insane
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You just listen to tones. I was in my head. I was like, I mean
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I'm here's a fantasy. I've got I was owning a I'm owning a bar in this fantasy
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I'm also the bartender very small bar
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And then this guy is just in here just just fucking talking. Just talking.
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And it's like eventually everybody there goes,
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you can no longer be in this bar, sir.
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And he's like, ah, free country.
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But then we all grab him and just move him
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outside of the bar.
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I feel like that's a reasonable response to Tucker.
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Everybody get together and move him outside the bar.
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- That's it.
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- Yep.
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- Get out of here.
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- Yeah.
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- Shoe. - This is unacceptable. -'s it. Yeah. Get out of here. Yeah. Show. This is unacceptable. Yeah. You are so bad and so
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transparently malicious bullshit. Yeah. I need a broom for
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you. Yeah. So he has as as Tucker introduced at the beginning
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of the show. Yeah. His theory that he's operating off of and
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the reason why half of the show is supposed to be about Alex being a profit.
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Right. And then the other half was supposed to be about the Sandy Hook case and how he's been wronged is because Tucker's theory is that Alex predicted 9/11. Right.
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And this is the culmination of the government trying to punish him for that. That's the premise that Tucker is trying to put forth.
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- Okay, so an adult male human being
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in the year of our Lord 2025 has decided
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that a real prophet predicted 9/11.
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- Yeah, the only person who did
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because of magic.
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- And then multiple governments
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throughout that time period have been
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Putting together a very slow plan regardless of their partisan status
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That would eventually
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25 years later
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culminate in the
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moderate lessening of his quality of life. Yeah Yeah, and I think the real fundamental thing,
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it was him getting kicked off social media.
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- Yep.
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- Like that's really the consequence that he faced,
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and mostly it's been undone.
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- Boy, what a world.
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- Yeah, no, I mean, when you put it that way,
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it's kind of stupid.
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- It doesn't sound great.
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- No.
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- No, you gotta be in the right mood though.
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If in the right mood, it sounds pretty good. - Yeah, I guess. So anyway, he talks about Alex has been punished. Okay.
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And then right after they win the jury's fine for all this money, they come back and they
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say that's not enough. Your honor. We want 2.75 trillion. That's the GDP of India. People
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don't believe that it's been Alec Jones, Sandy Hook, 2.75 trillion.
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And so the judge said, no, you just get 1.5 million.
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In retrospect, did you ever think when they awarded a judgment against you equivalent
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to the GDP of India, did you ever think like, maybe I should keep my visions to myself
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and not like next time I see 9/11 coming, I just shouldn't say anything because people
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who predict the future accurately are always punished for it?
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I think that's, I mean, I mean, well, what I realized was I've got something important
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to say. So I better say it even louder because the evil wants to shut down, but just to finish
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the key part, I'm sorry. Sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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it's making me upset hearing this.
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Oh, so upset. I think that Alex's behavior around Sandy Hook, and if you look at what he actually did,
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his behaviors, I think it's so indefensible
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that the only way the Tucker can swing this
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is pretend that it's connected to 9/11
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and Alex predicting it.
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- That makes sense.
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- I think this is legitimately the only way
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he can make that behavior excusable.
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And it's pathetic.
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It is, whoo, 'cause like he's talking about how Alex is being punished for sharing his visions. Yep
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Did he share his visions about sandy hook?
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Is that is Tucker trying to defend Alex's prescience there or is that just a big whoopsie?
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Where the profit completely missed the mark and ended up leading the charge on terrorizing grieving families. Oh buddy's nerfic
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No, no, you can't use it.
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- Oh, the profit.
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The profits sometimes are on.
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- The worst.
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- It's pathetic behavior.
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I just think they should be deeply ashamed.
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- Yeah, I mean, it is, and it's one of the things
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that I hated so much about the coverage
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during the trial, the coverage now.
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And then the assumption that everybody has of like,
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well, in bankruptcy and appeals and all this stuff,
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the judgment's gonna go down
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and it's not really the amount of money
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because what is so important about the judgment
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is that 14 regular ass people were explained
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in very exhausting detail what this man did.
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And 14 people went, fuck that that guy one and a half billion dollars
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right that's you and that's what all of us would say if that's the thing about the jury
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trial and that's what I wanted the coverage to be is about like if you had sat through
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this trial you would go fuck that guy to the tune of one and a half billion dollars you
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know but also I think that you have a passion that you're describing fuck this guy with that the jurors did not have. It is not a fuck this guy. Sure.
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This is probably the only consequence that's commensurate to what he did.
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Right. He is incapable of change. He is on air during this trial defaming these
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people again
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and talking shit and trying to antagonize the judge.
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You know, like he will not change his behavior
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in a way that he very desperately needs
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to change his behavior because it hurts people.
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And yeah, impartial jurors heard the cases
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and that is what they decided.
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- Yeah, I mean, it could not be more like,
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hey, it's illegal for us to say,
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stop this man, like we're in a movie,
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stop that man, but that's what we're trying to say
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through this money. - Yeah.
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- The money means somebody stop him.
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- Yeah. - We're here.
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- He will not stop.
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- We're trying to stop him.
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This is the best way we have to stop him.
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Now it's your your job and everybody
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Thumbled that fucking ball hard. Yeah, because of freedom. Yep. So I think that
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Man just shit. So Tucker and Alex talk about how
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The government's doing this to him and it's all the government
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They said it because he predicted 9/11 or something. And government and then get ready for another sneaky outbreak.
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Great.
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Great stuff.
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Then when they win the show trial that was already fixed, these PR firms come out of
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New York Connecticut and go, we've been doing this for years.
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We exposed Jones.
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We did this.
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We helped get this big win blah, blah, blah.
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Then this undercover video comes out that is in a predator
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sexting trolling operation in DC, which the guy was ever
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implicated him, but that's how he got caught up with the troll
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trolling operation. This Oblevis person CIA and FBI. It's
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confirmed says well, we investigated Alex Jones for years
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at the FBI that he went on the CIA. So he's currently.
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And he said we couldn't find anything criminal on him.
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So we went to the Sandy Hook people with law firms that we developed this
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plan with this narrative to take him down.
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And now we're in the process of shutting him down.
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And the person says, well, are you still trying to put him in prison?
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No, we've just destroyed his name and destroyed who he is.
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You know, it's all on video.
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It's online.
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Just type in FBI CIA agent, you know, admits to running
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Sandy Hook frame job of Al Jones. We recommend you take this moment to do what we're about
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to do, which is enjoy an album. Wow.
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Just to kind of refresh our baseline assumptions here, is the CIA allowed to destroy people
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for in the United States?
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That's unreal.
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That did not just happen.
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Oh, it happened.
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What the fuck was that?
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That was Alex Jonesy.
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Except it's not.
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Alex is smoother.
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That was.
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Yeah.
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That's this is bad. That was... Yeah. That's... this is bad.
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That was bad.
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Yeah.
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Selling his, uh... his tobacco pouches.
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God damn.
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That are woke.
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It makes me long for the day...
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Like, I long for the openness of the... the like...
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Right after this!
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And now first...
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A long drag of this American cigarette will enjoy...
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Well, like our first episode of the cat had the Winston's.
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- Yes, absolutely.
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- Give me just-- - This is brought to you
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by Winston's. - Just fucking,
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God damn man.
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- I think that this is tacky and gross.
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Alex is very clearly slandering this guy.
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- Yeah.
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- And accusing him of being caught in a pedophile sting
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operation and then saying that he admitted to planning
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The sandy hook hit job on Alex. Yep. This is I would sue this shit out of him if I were this guy just on principle
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Why not?
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But then we then just a weird out of nowhere
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Pouchley Pouch tobacco ad if it now ooh
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See now here's the other thing if I'm if I'm doing this
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they've just given me an idea for the greatest only fans ad breaks that's
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ever been do what I'm doing right about now and enjoy Melissa I think the
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Tucker is really channeling Alex and the making noises yeah I think Alex is as
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rubbed off on him a little
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that you could just make noises.
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- Real gross noises.
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- Real gross noises.
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- Yeah.
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So I think in order to defend any of the shit
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that Tucker is trying to defend
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and to prop up this stupid theory
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that Alex predicted 9/11 has been punished ever since
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for being a vision profit guy.
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- Right, right.
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- You need to create fake versions of the criticism that's
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leveled at Alex. And so Tucker does that here. All of this stems from a school shooting in
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Connecticut 12 years ago, 12 years ago. And you suggest that matters here that there
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was something weird about this. I covered other people saying that correct. You did
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not commit the school shooting. No, Adam Lanza did. Adam lands it did. And I said for years, I believe it happened before they said
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me. Right. So we spent approximately zero time and
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zero money as a country trying to figure out why would Adam lands of murder all these
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children? We're all against murdering children. Some of us are against murdering all children,
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including in foreign countries in here in abortion, clinics just against murdering kids.
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Okay. So I'm not going to see the moral high ground on kids to ghouls like this. So okay, in here in abortion, or is probably brain fried in SSRIs or whatever, the cause. Like no one cares.
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- That's right, he was on SSRIs, like almost all of a minute
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and exactly and here's the finale.
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- But like no one cares.
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It's like all these people jump up and down,
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including some of these parents, I assume.
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And like I understand they're upset,
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their kids are murdered off.
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I mean, I've...
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- Hold that, this guy back in my bar!
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- I'm blaming you for it?
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Hold that, this guy back in my bar!
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You get the fuck outta here!
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- Unbelievable. - Get outta here! - I would say that the end of that clip is generous to call an
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unforced error on Tucker's part really being a total asshole. Wow. Yeah, I think
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that if you pretend that people think Alex did the shooting, then yeah, man,
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that's not right. He shouldn't like people shouldn't think that
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because he didn't and no one thinks he did um i also think it's kind of stupid to say that no
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one thinks or no one cares about why adam lansard carried out the i think people care a great deal
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and people spent a lot of time wrestling with that and trying to trying to figure that this is disgusting.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to I'm trying to focus. I'm trying to you got to stay in the pocket
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that this shit because this is clearly like this is for this is for us man. This is for
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us to like, oh, I'm so mad that he would say this nonsense because then we've wasted
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our time listening to him talk about it and then feeling things about it
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He doesn't even believe those words. He doesn't even he doesn't even know what he's saying. He's like a minor bird
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He's just mimicking what human sound like yeah, there's there's
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Legitimately no way for him to have engaged with any of the content and any of the stuff that has happened yeah and come away with these
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conclusions yeah, I think that there is a version of an argument
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that you can make that Alex was over punished for something.
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You could make that argument.
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You could say that he was persecuted more than lying
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about these people and directing the harassment the way
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that he did deserves. I think you could say that right you can't say this stuff
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If you have any awareness of anything that has happened this is
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Just you don't care if you made the argument I would ask politely for you to leave my bar
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Mm-hmm if you said shit like this you're getting tossed out of that bar. And I think that's fair. Yeah. Uh, so Tucker lays out his thesis, which is that you predicted 9/11 and now you're being
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punished for it.
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Makes sense.
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And I just, uh, the title of this clip is, uh, this guy is profoundly stupid.
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The point is is now to last night, the Connecticut Supreme court said we're not even going to
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hear, uh, your appeal and which is ironclad
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abuse of process irony clad
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Texas the judge violated three laws cut and dry
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I
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Mean the cap is at five billion dollars. She said I don't care about the Texas cap
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I'm doing 45 that would change 49. They just don't. And it's the same in all of this law
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fair, just like a judge found Trump. You never did anything. You never broke any laws. They
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would have indicted you. Like this is all so hallucinogenic. It's so crazy. Well, imagine
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it's like it's like I'm their chew toy and they just chew on me. But your crime, look,
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I just want to refer you to the very first moments of this conversation when I pointed out once again for the hundredth time
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You called 9/11 in detail before 9/11
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So that is like it just from my perspective as an outsider and somebody knows you. That's like the defining fact of your life
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That's the first sentence of your obituary. No one did that only you
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That fact I think is responsible for everything that has come after well
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Just exactly so dumb just so dumb. That's the first line of Tucker's obituary. Yeah fact, I think is responsible for everything that has come after. Well, just exactly.
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So dumb, just so dumb.
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That's the first line of Tucker's obituary.
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Yeah, believed Alex wholeheartedly.
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I think that every guest that he has on his show should have to be asked about
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what they think about Tucker believing this.
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Yep. I think it would be embarrassing.
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I think it should be embarrassing. I think it would end up with yeah. Tucker should just now for now on be about trying
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to indoctrinate people to the cult of Alex. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Don't you understand?
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There's so many things that Alex does that are that are like preemptive arguments against
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what are so obviously his own faults like
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By d legitimized by like being people have no memories by
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Delegitimizing that as a concept of things to say about other people mm-hmm
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You leave open this shit where it's like the reason that Tucker is allowed to get away with this is because people have forgotten
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Tomorrow mm-hmm that all of this happened.
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Yep.
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People have no memories is not what Alex means.
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It means that nobody is going like Tucker until you answer for this thing that you did.
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We go no further.
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You know, damn, it's just never going to happen.
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You said you were attacked by a demon.
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We go no further until you tell me the name of said demon,
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what have you done to look into demonology since then?
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Are you working on protecting your family from demons?
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Do we have products already available about demons?
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If I got attacked by a demon,
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I wouldn't be hanging out with Alex Jones.
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I'd be hanging out with witches.
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I would be hanging out with--
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It's all real!
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(laughing) If I got attacked by a
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thing that other people believe to be fictional the next thing that would
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happen is everything in my life would be about how that fictional thing is real.
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Yeah I'm the Witcher. Yeah absolutely. The whole thing is real now. If I'm
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Tucker I always have a sword that I have blessed or something. I'm carrying around holy water
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Like I'm one of the Belmonts if I'm attacked by a demon, right? I don't care
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If you believe or don't believe I'm busy fighting demons now
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Yeah, and I think that maybe that is a part of the
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Unearned confidence that he has yeah with like. - With like trying to defend Alex.
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It's like Alex is on my side against those demons.
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Maybe that's part of it.
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- Wild.
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- These guys are fucking dumb.
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- Man, I think they both killed Gene Hackwood.
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- Yeah.
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- Shockingly doesn't come up.
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- Oh really?
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- The two hundred prophetic dreams.
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- The saving, I'm so important to his profit story.
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- It should be.
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- Weird. - Could have been. been so Alex talks here about how he's
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The bug the aunt in bugs life
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He's the aunt and but the one there where they're like if one bug stands up
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Yeah, and all the rest of the bug was a lot. Yeah. Yeah, okay Tucker's like that's great
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They want Alex Jones's head on the wall as a symbol to scare everybody else.
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I mean, they said that in the courthouse is and on the courthouse steps, they said, send
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a message to everybody else.
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These patients zero.
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We're going to take him off here and destroy him and we're going to scare every one of
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these other Americans to keep literally it's like in Bugs Life when the head grasshopper
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says, yeah, we got all this grain where we go beat ants?" 'Cause one little ants stood up and he goes,
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"Yeah, one little grain, dead and hurt."
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But he goes, "But if they all stand up
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"and he pulls it into floods them."
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And he goes, "Those little puny ants
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"outnumber us 100 to one.
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"And if they ever figure that out, it's over for us.
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"That's why we're going back to kill that ant."
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- That's exactly right.
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- That's it.
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So I'm just the ant in Bug's life.
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- You are, but it hasn't worked.
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And so I want
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to make a prediction because you just want to be on tape saying this and say it again even more
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clearly this time and I of course I hope I'm wrong I pray I'm wrong but I do think a lot of the really
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crazy bitter ethnic hate that you see on social media is fake. It's it's people are saying it don't
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mean it. I think it's like you know know, the Klansman you'd see Mark
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saying, you're like, there are no Klansmen.
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And he'd be like, what?
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And of course you find out that it's all it's fake
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and it's designed to convince people
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that there's like a lot of roiling ethnic hatred
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that doesn't really exist.
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And that's a predicate.
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- The patriot front. - Exactly.
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It's Charlottesville.
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But that's happening online right now.
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And I know that it is.
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And I think that at some point I pray I'm wrong,
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but there's going to be an act of violence,
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ethnic inspired violence, of hate, hate inspired violence,
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actual hate, like killing people.
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And I really hope I'm wrong, but I feel like this is real.
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And that event will be used to shut down
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free speech on social media.
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- 100?
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- Because that is the threat.
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And they, you saw with TikToktok like, Oh, we need to
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ban tiktok just trying to owns it.
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Oh, nothing to do with China.
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It had everything to do with opinions that the people in charge didn't like being expressed
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there.
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And it's like we're just going to end and the Congress went along with it.
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But if there's an act of violence and innocence or murder, and I pray that doesn't happen
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because I hate that above all, but it has happened and I feel like it could happen
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again. People say, and a lot of good people will go along with it. happened because I hate that above all but it has happened and I feel like it could happen again
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and people say and a lot of good people will go along with it just like they went along with the
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censorship of you and the destruction of your life or like how you supported the Iraq War you
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dipshit Dan I am getting dangerously close to invoking the angel of death yeah I think I'm going to
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I think I'm gonna have to talk to your pastor because I'm listening to that I am dangerously close up for praying for bad things
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Fuck you man. Fuck. That's outrageous
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But also it's fascinating how talkers convince that all this racial hatred like the clan members or white supremacist
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It's all fake, but he thinks that Russia is hated because they're a white Christian country
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It's strange how the racism expressed by white people is fake fake, but he thinks that Russia is hated because they're a white Christian country.
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It's strange how the racism expressed by white people is fake, but the racism he imagines
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is directed towards white people.
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It's the biggest problem in the world.
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Strange how that works.
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It seems convenient to you, but that's just because you're not a deep thinker.
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Right.
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See, otherwise, because if it wasn't that way, then maybe, so think about it this way.
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This show is generally about white genocide.
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All of this stuff is based on these fears
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that they have about replacement and shit.
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- Right, well, but I mean, think about it.
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Think about if all the racism that white people give
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is real and all of the racism that he says
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white people receive is actually fake.
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Well, then white people historically came over and like
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murdered a bunch of people and then stole their shit. That doesn't happen. See
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there you go. I just I find I think you know like you're saying like you're
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not a deep thinker and what I think is that this is fucking baby shit. Yep.
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This is children's television. It It is. - For awful people.
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- It is like, sometimes it does feel like,
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hey, I don't even wanna address you.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Grow up. - Yeah.
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- Then we can talk.
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Grow up.
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- Or, get out of my fucking bar.
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- Get out of my fucking bar.
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- Get out of my fucking bar.
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Get out of my bar.
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- Yeah, you can't drink here. We're trying to have trying to have a good time can't drink here yeah you can drink other
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places you don't get it man get out of my bar so anyway what an appearance oh
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I think these guys come off his real piece of shit and I think they're stupid
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but also I think this is boring I this was, there was an electricity to the other times that Tucker and Alex have
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gone up against each other or done a show together.
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And I think that it's a miscommunication of Tucker really wanting this premise to be
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pushed, which is you are a prophet.
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You predicted 9/11.
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And now all of the bad things that people think about you is because the devil is trying
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to punish you for trying to save humanity from 9/11
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Let me tell you this right that sounds crazy
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Second thing that's crazy
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Tucker did not feel that he needed to give Alex that context think he thought Alex would go with it. - Spring this insane plan, this insane idea on Alex
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and Alex would be like, "Absolutely."
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Now, this should really be insulting to Alex.
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- Yes.
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- Because you were assumed to be so dumb
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that you would be like, "Well, obviously the CIA did this
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"because I predicted 9/11."
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- Right.
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I think that Tucker was aware, at least on some level with craft,
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this is the best way to present this person. Probably. This is the way that they will come out
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looking the best, the way that I can use them in the future to the greatest benefit.
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And I think that he assumed that Alex would get it and his narcissism would be stroked by these things
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and talk or be able to walk him through it.
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Now unfortunately, Alex, I guess was in the mood
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to be taken seriously.
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And I think that there's the false modesty
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that he's expressing with the, oh, little old me.
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I didn't mean I, God didn't choose me to fight the devil.
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Little old, he's trying not to come off as conceited
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or something to Tucker's audience.
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Not realizing that that ruins the game
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that they're supposed to be playing.
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- Yeah. - And that's fun, kind of.
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- It would be nice if they just have a sit down
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beforehand and Tucker's like, hey, whatever I say,
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all right, I am trying to pin all consequences on your success.
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Thus, ratifying consequences as a measure of success.
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Let me use you.
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Putting those two together means that you will be safe.
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And Alex was like, I do not understand that at all.
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Yeah.
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Not even a little bit.
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Yeah.
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And because he kind of didn't play along with the premise, the conclusion ends up kind of, it just looks stupid. And I think they wasted an interview.
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Yep. Anyway, we'll be back and check in and see what else is going on in Alex's stupid
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fucking world. But until then, we have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. Go back. But
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until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo.m_ d_c_ x clerk and the mysterious professor
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well you know
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and now here comes with the sex robot andy and canada sure on the earth
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thanks for holding
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well i think the first time color in the future and i love your work
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i love you
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