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Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around and worship at the altar of Saline and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jor-dan.
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Quick question for you.
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'Sup?
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What's your bright spots today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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Uh, my bright spot is, uh, it is opening day of baseball.
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Hey, the crack of the bat.
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Major League Baseball, doing the thing, hitting the thing, ha!
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Did you get some, did you get some Cracker Jacks?
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Uh, no. No.
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Oh.
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Technically, uh, here's what's fun about opening day baseball this year, is that the Cubs are already 0
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and 2.
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Oh no.
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Yeah.
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'Cause they played their game in Japan, right?
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Japan, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yep, uh, which had everybody in Japan watch.
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Mm-hmm.
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Did you know that a, an entire country can watch a thing together?
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And they, they watched the Cubs lose.
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(laughs) Everybody, yeah.
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Um, so, w- who were they playing in Japan?
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Uh, the Dodgers.
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Okay.
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Well, it was because you've got Shohei Ohtani, who's the most famous person on Earth.
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Sure.
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Uh, you've got Yoshinobu, uh, Yamamoto, who's a pitcher.
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You've got, uh, Shota, uh, uh, uh, from...
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You've got, uh, uh, Seiya Suzuki. You've got, like, between the two teams,
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there's like 10 Japanese people.
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Mm-hmm.
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So it was an awesome thing for them to go and, like, do a whole thing, and it counts for the
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game. It was great, it was just fantastic.
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As somebody who watched the Cardinals for one or two years, I'm, I'm required to ask about Sota Iguchi.
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Hmm. Still retired.
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Still retired, okay.
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(laughs)
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Um, did they play the Dodgers in the home opener too? Or the second?
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Uh, no.
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They... Oh, okay.
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No, no, no, no. Nope, nope.
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Didn't get, get, get worked over twice?
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No, no, no, the Dodgers-
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So-
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... are the best team in baseball by about 10 million times as, uh, so it's, it's gonna be a
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rough year for anybody playing the Dodgers.
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0 and 2, only can go up from here.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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Literally, it is only possible. It's not though.
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Are you making some plans to get out to Wrigley?
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Yeah, absolutely. I was thinking that I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and see more baseball games this year.
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Last year, I saw one.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, the year before that, I saw one.
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Wait, you went to one in New York last year.
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Oh, sure, that one-
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(laughs)
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Yeah. Yeah, but-
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Your, your m- uh, mother-in-law got you a ticket to one in New York.
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Yeah, that wa- that was amazing.
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So that's two then.
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Yeah, that counts, but that's like a fucking miracle.
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That's true.
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I don't even, I don't even know if that counts as a baseball game so much as like a, ugh, I don't even know how to
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describe it.
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Mm-hmm.
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Too many positive feelings. Um, but yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be a great season.
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What's your bright spot?
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Um, I guess, um, I, I... Baseball season's starting.
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(laughs)
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Do you wanna go to some games?
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I'll go to a game or two with you.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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We never, we've, we've gone to one baseball game together, and I think there was somebody else there.
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Hmm.
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I wanna say that maybe...
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No, no, it wasn't you and me.
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I don't, I don't know if you and I-
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No.
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I've gone to a game with Joe Fernandez.
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Yes.
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I've gone to a game with Bobby Buzz.
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Of course.
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Um...
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Maybe we haven't gone to a ga- I felt like we had gone to one r- game at Wrigley together.
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I tried to go to one with Ryan Beck when he was in town visiting, and I think it got rained out.
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Hmm.
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Um, no, I don't think you and I have gone to a game together.
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We should.
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Hey, let's do that.
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I think it's a great idea.
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This pinky ring lifestyle, although I'm not wearing it right now-
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Yeah, I was about to say, you're not wearing it right now.
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No, I washed my hands earlier and I left it on the counter.
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(laughs)
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But the, the pinky ring lifestyle is, uh-
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Yeah.
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... leading me towards like, "Let's go to some games."
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I think that's a great idea.
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But I also was thinking about it, and I was like, being in the stands with pinky ring-
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Yeah.
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... um, that's not the first accessory you'd think of.
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I should've gone sunglasses
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first.
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Do you mean sunglasses that you wear inside?
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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You should've gone sunglasses that you wear inside first?
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Yeah.
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Nobody should-
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As an affectation.
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Nobody should start with sunglasses you wear inside first.
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But here, here's the two things that th- that that has an advantage of.
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Sure.
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People might think you're high. They might think you're, you're high if you're wearing sunglasses
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indoors.
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Sure.
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And you're always ready if a poker game breaks out.
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Yeah.
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So
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y- you're, you're ahead.
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Yeah, that's true. That is true.
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It, I think it's the first thing people go to when they think of accessorizing, and I, I jumped over it to the,
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to the ring.
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I think you might have a point. I remember, this is from very young, uh, when I, uh, I met
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Elvis Costello.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, he came to our college. We, I was in a recording program at the time, uh,
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like audio production and all that stuff.
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And he came to talk to the like eight kids in our, in our, uh, class.
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And we got to meet him and we got to hang out with him.
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And he was wearing his sunglasses in the morning, and then he was like, "I'm gonna get out of here for a
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while." And then he came back and he was still wearing his sunglasses, but you were like, "That is the
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highest man I have ever seen in my entire life."
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And he-
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He walked out of here and smoked an entire blunt. That, yeah, and it was great.
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And there's plausible deniability.
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Totally. I-
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'Cause he had the sunglasses.
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Also, I'm Elvis Costello. What do I care?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Did you ask him about, uh, what it's like to live as another Elvis?
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I did not, no. I imagine that he had already answered that
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question somewhere else by the time I, you know, (laughs) I would've gotten to him.
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Still an interesting, uh, thing to think about.
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I don't think you're wrong.
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Anybody else who was named Madonna. Like how, how is it?
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Well, he chose Elvis.
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Why?
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He wanted to... He was like, "Well how else am I gonna be famous right away?
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I'll pick Elvis' name."
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So that's not his given name.
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No, absolutely not.
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Damn, that's cocky.
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It's very cocky.
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(laughs)
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It's absurdly cocky if you stop and think about it, and then he pulled it off.
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He did.But he's still... Like, if someone says Elvis, you think of
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Presley.
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Well, they don't think... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If you say Elvis Costello, you think of Elvis Costello.
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Right, right, right. No, Elvis is one word.
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Yeah.
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And that is a man.
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Mm-hmm.
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Elvis Costello is two, and that is a different man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Okay.
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We're gonna be talking about February 7th, 2025.
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All right.
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And, uh, not a lot. There's-
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Not a lot happened.
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Not a lot going on.
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Mm.
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Once you chip away at the-
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(laughs)
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... Alex read a tweet kind of stuff.
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(laughs)
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Which is becoming a little bit of an issue.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, maybe will require a bit of change of, uh, uh, perspective on our part,
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which, uh, you know, hey, we'll talk about.
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We'll see.
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Uh, but first, uh, before we get to any of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, "Happy birthday, Yams. Thanks for getting me hooked on this podcast.
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There's no one else I'd rather rise above my enemies with." Uh, from your fellow Brownline boy, DJ
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H-Man. Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next, uh, shout-out to przeluski's horses.
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"I'll be seeing y'all in Mongolia this summer.
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Also, I wanted to hear how Dan tries to pronounce Przewalski." Thank you so much.
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You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I probably didn't get it right, but I was also thinking that it was, uh, Przeblewski from, uh, The Wire.
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From... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course.
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Uh, ne- next thank you to sh- uh, Knowledge Rogan Fight Experience.
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Thank you so much. You are now a Policywonk.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you. And we got a Technocrat in the mix.
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Ooh.
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So thank you so much to Damien Mikhail...
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Miklahey, the literary Christian devil. Thank you so much. You are now a Technocrat.
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I'm a Policywonk.
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Before it starts, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Sharp. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean Black accent.
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He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate Black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So I, I mentioned this a little bit-
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Mm-hmm.
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... uh, before we, uh, said hello to the Wonks.
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Mm.
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But there... I've been trying to take an approach of having a day as a
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day, and I think that we've reached probably the point where I no
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longer care to do that.
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Yeah.
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Um, I thought that as everything was going on and things were
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crazy that there would be a value in, uh, taking a measured approach and
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slowly observing the way that Alex unfolds as the Trump administration,
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uh, takes control of all these things.
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Yeah.
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And all these major, major things are happening.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I think that, uh, there's... Whatever value there is to it, sure.
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Mm.
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Uh, but I, I, I,
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I don't need to do that anymore.
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No, no. I think part of it is it is an incredibly reasonable, and I think
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a, a smart thing to assume, is that after a momentous
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thing followed by an almost near or non-stop onslaught of
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momentous things happening, that at least somebody would get into these
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momentous, momentous things, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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It's very reasonable to assume that.
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Unfortunately, we are dealing with the least reasonable human being on Earth, I think.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, after this point, I'm no longer gonna marry myself to the, uh,
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one day, one day, uh, sort of obligation that I've been, uh, been trying to keep
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because Alex's show is, uh, not good.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, you will not get a sense of what's going on in the world from it.
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Nope.
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You'll get a little bit of, like, maybe a, a, a hat tip over to this thing or,
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or this, but-
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Right.
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... uh, uh, in terms of, like, giving, uh, like, voice to
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or attention to things that matter, this strategy is not doing that.
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No.
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Um, and I- I'm willing to abandon it based on, uh, it not serving the purposes
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that I hoped it would.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, for now, though, we'll talk about February 7th, which is stupid.
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Hell yeah. (laughs) Hell yeah.
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So, uh, Elon Musk.
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What about him?
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He's cool.
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Geez.
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He has a friend. I don't know if you know about his friend.
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I don't.
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He has a friend named Big Balls.
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I'm sorry, what?
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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(upbeat music) it is Friday, February 7th, 2025.
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Elon Musk has launched Operation Big Balls.
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Infowars, tomorrow's news today.
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Everybody comes and comes again.
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We are 17 days,
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23 hours, 44 seconds into the new presidency of President Trump.
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Everyone comes and comes again. Everybody says I've got great balls of fire.
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I've got big balls.
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And now it has come out-
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I've got big balls. Yes, I have.
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... that they've been leaking and doxing in the corporate media, different members of Elon Musk's
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Doge team, and one of them has the nickname Big Balls.
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And they're all over the corporate media reporting it all very, very seriously (laughs) .
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This is some of the greatest unintentional comedy ever. Uh, here's a clip.
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It's so funny that, uh, uh, people have to say this guy's nickname.
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Uh, they call him Big Balls.
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Yeah.
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Um, so yeah, AC/DC has that song Big Balls.
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Yep.
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This is just perfect.
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Yep, that... I mean, why else would you name somebody Big Balls if not to then play that song?
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Yeah.
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Well...
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I, I think that there's a really funny just sort of, because we've listened to his show enough, like, there
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was a time when people would say, like, piss on air, and he'd be like, "There are homeschooled kids
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listening. We have a responsibility."
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"Not how we do this." Yep.
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"This is a family show."
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Yep.
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(laughs) He's doing a Big Balls segment-
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Yeah.
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... saying it's Operation Big Balls.
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Mm.
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So the folks in Alex's circle are a bunch of whiny bullies, and they try to pretend that
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identifying the people who are working for Elon Musk in this fake government oversight office,
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identifying them is the same thing as doxing them.
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A lot of people have unfortunate or cool nicknames, depending on your perspective, so I'm gonna
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leave Big Balls alone on that front. His real name is Edward Corsetan, and
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he may be a super shady dude beyond even the nickname.
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Hm.
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He's only 19, and while he was in high school, he ran a company called Diamond CDN, which stands for
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content delivery network. One of the folks that he provided DDoS protection and other services
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to, and who he was thanked as a, quote, "valued partner," was a cybercrime ring
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called EGodly.
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Sure.
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Anyway, it seems like this person having access to all kinds of sensitive, uh, in- internal and
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government stuff is maybe not the best, just from a security standpoint, but I guess it
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is fun that his nickname is Big Balls and that Alex can pretend that him having the
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nickname Big Balls is an op of some sort to make the government
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say it.
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Yeah.
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It's fun.
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(sighs) You know, uh, there's two things.
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Um, one, first off, no one, no one who
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ran their own business in high school turned out to then be a cool person.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's not how that works. Nobody was like, "Oh, I started my own business and then a punk band." Didn't
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happen, doesn't happen like that.
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Generally, not.
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No. No, no, no. And two, I- I... Okay, so, like, I read about
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this, and then I saw it on a nature documentary.
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Big balls?
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Uh, like if there's, if there's a threat to the hive,
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right? Sometimes all the drones will just pile on the threat and
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just, sheer weight and body heat would, uh, neutralize it.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I feel like the moment, like if we had a reasonable press, the moment they were like,
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"Oh, Big Balls is here," they, like, they would all just dogpile on him.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then later on, we'd be better off for it. You know what I mean?
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Sure. I mean, I, the way that you're talking about this-
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There's a threat to the hive.
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Right, and I'm thinking we need a beekeeper.
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(laughs) I think we-
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I think we need a Jason Statham.
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(laughs) I think we need a Jason Statham.
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(laughs)
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Yeah.
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Clearly something is out of order.
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Yep.
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And, uh, Big Balls is, uh-
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(laughs)
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... he's in your Social Security.
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Yeah, if there's anything we need to counteract this runaway,
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absolutely unfettered and unsupervised organization,
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it is an even more runaway and unfettered and unsupervised organization.
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But I mean, uh, look, I only know of the, the workings of the beekeepers-
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Yep.
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... from the one movie.
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Right, right. (laughs)
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I'm willing to trust Statham.
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Hey, at this point.
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Yeah. (laughs)
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(laughs)
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So, uh, Trump has a strategy that he's been using.
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Mm-hmm.
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And, uh, Alex discusses, uh, that in this, uh, the next clip.
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Trump just continues to accelerate his rampage successfully against the deep
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state. They're just turning the heat up with their lies and absurdity.
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But also, something I've talked a lot about, and I never quantified it as a tactic,
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but I guess it's got a name.
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I just see things for what they are and describe it.
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It's really important, I'll play in the next segment, this is a short little segment, obviously.
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Your radio affiliates don't carry the first five, but I do it for the giant internet TV
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audience and all the great folks out there.
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But, uh,
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it, it's, it's where you expose Democratic corruption
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and
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on all these poll numbers,
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issue poll numbers, it's, it's 80, 90% of people,
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hell, some of them 97%.
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A- and then the Democrats are forced to come defend
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fraud, theft, scams, censorship, deception.
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Balls.
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Audits of bloated government.
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$50 million for condoms in Gaza, which you know none of that's going there. The money's being stolen.
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That's the old trick of $800 toilet seats and, you know,
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$1,000 hammers back in the '80s.
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They weren't buying toilet seats and hammers, folks.
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They were stealing the money or putting it in black budget stuff. Same thing.
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So
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this is Trump's superpower, finding a bunch of 80/20 issues and getting on the 80,
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and everybody who is reflexively against him gets on the 20.
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Now the Democratic Party has a 31% approval rating, this is why, and that's in corporate polls.
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So I'll explain that coming up, but, uh...
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(whistles)
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This is really an incredible time to be alive,
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but
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I'm telling you, they're gonna launch cyberattacks.
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Oh, I'm still scared. Uh, good, just remember to be scared.
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They're gonna launch cyberattacks, yeah.
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So what Alex is describing here is a very real rhetorical tactic that his side uses, and it's
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very effective because it takes advantage of their opponent's commitment to living in reality.
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They'll make a fake accusation, and then their opponent will feel obligated to address it, even though
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the accusation wasn't based on anything.
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To them, this is a point that should be rebutted, but for Alex, or the person making the attack, no
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rebuttal really matters. They know they're full of shit to begin with, they don't care about the point
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they're arguing, and have a million other of these fake complaints ready to go.
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Consider the "condoms to Gaza" thing is a fake story that Alex saw on Twitter, and he's just repeating
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days after even Elon Musk had to come out and say that he's not gonna get everything right.
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That story was never real, but it worked as a somewhat sensational way to accuse the other side of
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corrupt spending. This is what Alex means with these 80/20 issues with
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Trump. He can keep coming up with fake shit to get people worked up about, and in the process,
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distract the opposition with demanding they defend things that aren't real or try to explain to
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idiots that these things that they're mad about aren't real.
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The idea is supposed to be that Trump finds issues with 80% support and then gets on that side of the
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issue to make his opponents support the 20% side, but that's nonsense.
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And even if that were what Trump was actually doing, it seems like this would be an illustration of him
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having no center and no core to what he believes.
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Hm.
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He's just doing whatever's the most popular because it makes his control easier to
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maintain.
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Hm.
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Um, but you can really just take anything and then pretend it's the 80,
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you know?
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So, so th- when did the 80/20 thing start, uh, going around?
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'Cause I just, uh, heard about that, uh, eh, through, through, uh,
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what, what, some, like, uh, there's this show, this true crime show.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? And they were talking about Andrew Tate, and this kid had gone down the, the, like, incel rabbit
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hole, and he just kept bringing up 80/20 stuff.
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Mm-hmm.
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And is that, like, a ref- repetitive refrain that they're all telling themselves now?
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It definitely started to go around, uh, Alex's side of media, like, the day before
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this or the day before that.
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Mm-hmm.
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Like within... It, it's, it is something that was clearly on message.
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Okay.
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And Alex is picking up that message.
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Right.
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I'm not sure that if... Uh, uh, it may have roots in, um, like some of
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those subcultures, manosphere type-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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... type of, uh, stuff, but in terms of its application to Trump, it definitely got a push right
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before this, and Alex is continuing that.
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Right.
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He got the, like...... signal from watching Twitter-
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Right.
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This is what I'm suppo-
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Right, yeah.
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This is the new brand that I'm supposed to push.
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These are the things that we say, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, 'cause I mean, if I, if I understand the usage of it correctly, it's
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occasionally a real thing in certain circumstances, but this is what these people use to
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suck their thumbs and say, "Actually, we're the most popular people.
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Just because nobody says what we say doesn't mean that the 80% doesn't agree
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with us. It's only the loud, shrill 20% that we're arguing with," kind of thing.
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I, I assume that that is part of w- yeah.
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That makes more sense in, in the Andrew Tatey kind of f-
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Yeah. Yeah.
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... uh, space. Alex is saying that Trump takes issues that already have
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80/20, uh,
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uh, like sort of support differential and gets on the side of the 80 in order to
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force his opponents-
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Right.
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... like it's judo.
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That's not how anything works.
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No. And it's not, it's not real.
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No.
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Uh, but if you have a billionaire who owns Twitter
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and is, uh, clearly
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at least in many ways running the government-
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Yep.
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... you can create, um, a very loud voice that insists you're the
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80.
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Right. Yeah, I mean if you think about the, if you think about that as an
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application though, right? So, we take an 80/20 issue.
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Let's say an 80/20 issue is, uh, people should probably eat.
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Mm-hmm.
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I think 80% of the population would be like, "People should probably eat."
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Well, not when you get granular about it.
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See, there you go.
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Right.
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But if we just back out and everybody's like, "Well, sure, I guess 80 p- 80% of people should eat," right,
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Trump isn't going to then be like, "Well, obviously we're gonna feed everybody," in order to trick
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liberals into being so stupid they'll be like, "Ah, I don't even want anyone to eat
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anymore!"
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But that's the perception of the way Alex wants you-
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Right.
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... to believe Trump is operating. It's-
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Right, but that doesn't, that's absurd.
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It's idiotic.
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Yeah, it's dumb.
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Um, so uh, Alex talks about, uh, s- an issue, and may- maybe this is an
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80/20.
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Okay.
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But I know what's going on,
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and you know what's going on.
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And Gavin Newsom
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is a criminal.
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Sure.
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He's committed so many crimes, makes my head spin.
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Sure.
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California's so arrogant. Last year they signed a law that you can have sex with 12-year-olds.
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Doesn't sound true.
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As long as it's not vaginal. Seriously.
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'Cause it's, you know, they, they don't want babies to be born.
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(sniffs) It's rape if a little girl gets raped, but not little boys, or if a little girl gets
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raped anally. That's the law.
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Look it up. Think I'm joking?
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So this is a good example of Alex making up an 80/20 issue to be on the right side
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of. If the law was actually what Alex is describing, it's pretty hard to
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imagine defending that because that sounds horrible.
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It feels like that's more like a 95/5-
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Yes. (laughs)
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... where the, the 5% are the people doing the raping. Yeah.
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Yeah, I was using 80/20 metaphorically.
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Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I understand.
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So the ability to create that 80/20 illusion is based on lying, because this supposed
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law doesn't exist. This isn't about something that happened last year.
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It's about something that passed in 2020 called SB-145.
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The issue was that as the law was written, there was an unequal application of the
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law, which this bill was fixed, uh, was aiming at fixing.
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Judges have discretion in terms of putting someone on the sex offender list if the person that they had sex
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with is over 14, they are less than 10 years older than them, and the acts were not
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forcible. The minor still can't legally consent, and it's still a convictable
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offense. But given the circumstances, it's up to the judge to determine if the person should be
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on the sex offenders list.
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However, there is a 1944 law that required anyone who had even
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consensual anal or oral sex with a minor to be registered as a sex offender.
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This meant that in cases of same-sex interactions, the judge wouldn't have any leeway to
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not put a person on the sex offender list where they would have that leeway with a heterosexual
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case.
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Right, okay.
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As should be obvious, this creates an unequal application of the law, and SB-145 was meant
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to close that loophole. Alex is creating a fake version of this story in order to present himself
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as being on the 80 side of the equation, and he does that by oversimplifying things and making
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offensive shit up in order to make his position seem more obviously correct.
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If he wanted to argue that the correct way to address this loophole is to just make judges put
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everyone on the sex offender list regardless of the manner of sex they had, then that's a position
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that, uh, he could make that addresses what the bill is actually about.
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Sure.
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That would be a position we could argue, but the version that he puts forth is just fake.
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And treating it like a serious point is playing into the distraction that-
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Yeah.
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... he's now branding as, like, this 80/20 thing.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's, it is a, it is a, it is a rhetorical
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argument
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that people who wanna slap you use because if they slap you, you'll know that you can fight
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them-
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Mm-hmm.
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... essentially, right? Like, you're a person who's like, "I will n- I will not
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randomly commit an act of, of like, I'm not gonna attack you even with my o- even
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with my words. I'm not going to do that."
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Mm-hmm.
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Right? But somebody who's like, "Ah, they're letting you rape kids," like, fuck you. Fuck you.
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Right.
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Fuck you.
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I think, I think that when you, uh, cover this kind of territory,
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especially like, uh, the way Alex does, it's so, uh,
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disrespectful.
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Yeah.
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And it, it does, it, it, it's an attack.
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It, it-
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No, and it's, it makes you feel, it makes you emotionally react.
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The reason that you emotionally react is because you think about this.
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Mm-hmm.
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You think about human beings who care-
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Yeah.
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... allowing this shit to happen. And then you think about the fact that it does happen, and it breaks your
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heart and all this shit. And all the while, this person is just doing it because they can make you fucking-
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Yeah. They can-
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... distract you, yeah.
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They can play with your emotions-
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Yeah, it isn't-
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... and, and
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fuck with you.
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It's, it's an attack, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So fuck him. Um-
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Fuck him.
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So there's a, the, there's the clip that, uh, you were asking when this 80/20 thing
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started.
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Yeah.
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And I think it, uh, traces back to a clip that Alex is gonna play here.
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Okay.
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Uh, let's play...... but they have some power to block this.
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Let's play the clip on the, uh, 80/20 issue. Here it is.
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He's describing what is currently the dumbest strategy in
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politics-
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(laughs)
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... which is Democrats taking the 20% side of every 80/20 issue in America.
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USAID, people want this pared down. They wanna streamline it, they wanna know where the money is going.
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Democrats have a meltdown. Today, Donald Trump signs an executive order on, uh, keeping
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g- uh, boys out of girls sports. Democrats take the 20 side of that issue as well.
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All these issues, this is like Trump's superpower, finding a bunch of 80/20 issues, getting on the 80, and
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everybody who's sort of reflexively against him gets on the 20, and now the Democratic Party has
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like a 31% approval rating. This is why.
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I don't-
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You know,
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the Democrats have invincible ignorance and arrogance.
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And so,
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they are g- just extincting themselves, and I don't just say that. I mean, the- their party's dead.
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They'll never recover.
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They will be kicked out everywhere.
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A- a- a new party will form, probably split the Republican Party.
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Their election fraud's being exposed. It's over.
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Wow, is all I can say on that. Oh, okay, so let me start getting into the Doge.
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(sighs)
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Get into the Doge.
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A- a- and all this is interconnected, so I- I'm not going to the top thing first, just it's,
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it's...
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It's too hard for me to... When I'm looking at all this thing, I'm, you know, "What do I wanna hit first?"
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'Cause just it's all, it's all interconnected.
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Big balls.
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Mm-hmm.
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Breaking, Musk says his Doge team uncovered $100 billion in Medicare and Medicaid waste after gaining
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access to the system. So, what that-
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That's a lot of balls.
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So many balls.
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(laughs)
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So, what that guy is describing in that clip isn't a superpower that Trump has.
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It's a manipulative strategy. He plays to the crowd, and when the positions he wants to
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present, uh, as being the 80% position are actually super unpopular, they just lie to make
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it seem like it is.
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Yeah.
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This is why the weirdo attack got the most traction during the 2024 election
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cycle. Alex's political side is very obsessed with being seen as normal, so in
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their head, their positions always have to be the real 80% pos- uh, position.
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'Cause they're normal, and other people are normal, so clearly other people must agree that we're both
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normal together-
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Mm-hmm.
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... obviously, and that's why women shouldn't be allowed to control their own vaginas.
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Right. And also, the, the... It, it touches on this, uh, belief in, like, the
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naturalness of hierarchies-
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Yeah.
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... and, and-
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Yep.
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... all this stuff that is so intrinsic to, uh, the way that people like Alex view the world.
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Yeah.
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Um, and the idea that maybe we're not the 80% is threatening.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And, and that's why the delightfully calling him a weirdo, uh, they, they got really upset about that.
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Yeah.
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So, Musk absolutely did not find $100 billion in wasteful spending.
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He just tweeted out misrepresented things and outright lies meant to attack the Social Security system
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because his goal is to destroy that all and loot it.
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For example, Musk claimed that there were people, uh, there were a bunch of people over the age of 150 who
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were getting payments. That's not true.
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So, there's a database called U- uh, Numident that the Social Security has which includes
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everyone who's ever gotten a Social Security number.
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Tons of people in that database are dead, but they don't have a death date because they died before the
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time the electronic records were created and no one's gone through to add them to it.
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It's-
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It is what it is.
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... it's, uh, could probably cost a lot of money and-
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Yeah.
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... who cares?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This database is not connected to payments and those people aren't getting money, but
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it's almost certainly what Musk is talking about and where he's getting this from.
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It's hard to know for sure, though, because he doesn't ever really provide evidence for all this shit that
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he just tweets out.
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Yeah.
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He tweeted a misleading screenshot of old people in the Social Security database saying, quote,
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"There are far more eligible Social Security numbers than there are citizens in the USA.
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This might be the biggest fraud in history."
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This showed millions of people over the age of 100 in the Social Security rolls, but there are
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actually, like, there are audits of this shit, like who gets payments, and it turns
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out that 89,106 people over the age of 99 received benefits
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in December 2024.
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Hmm.
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This is a huge fuck up, but it's not a fuck up.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's just finding stuff to justify the attacks that these people want to make anyway.
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An NBC News article included a comment from someone at the Center on Budget and Policy
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Priorities who said that this was a, quote, "Humiliating mistake for anyone else to make,
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but they're doubling and tripling down on it." It's important to understand that it's not a humiliating
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mistake that Musk is making. He almost certainly knows he's wrong.
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He's just bought a president at a social media site, so he has a pretty good sense that he can take his
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fake version of reality and impose it on the public as the 80% opinion and there will
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be tons of people like Alex and his entire media infrastructure-
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Yeah.
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... that, uh,
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supports that and goes along with it.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's very stupid.
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Mm-hmm.
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The NBC thing of, uh, humiliate... Like, okay, I understand
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why you would write that and it makes sense, but that would be like writing,
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uh, like, uh, uh, Germany dropped wartime
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propaganda on London about how London was gonna quit, and London wasn't
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gonna quit. How humiliating a mistake is that?
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Like, you're, you're far misunderstanding the point of what I'm saying.
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To be fair, it wasn't somebody who wrote it. It was a comment from somebody.
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But yeah-
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Yeah.
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... I, I, I think, I think the... It's like this would be a humiliating mistake-
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Yes.
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... except it's not.
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Yeah.
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The, the pre- the entire premise underneath it is wrong.
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Yeah.
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This is meant to bolster, uh, uh,
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propagandize-
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Yeah.
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... in order to, uh, destroy the thing.
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If I'm lying about something to obtain what I want, and in the per- and in the process of
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that, I do obtain it, I have not made a humiliating mistake.
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No, the lie was-
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Yeah.
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... tactical in order-
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I did it-
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... to achieve the goal that you knew you couldn't achieve otherwise.
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Totally. 100% of victory.
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You know why? Because Social Security is actually an 80/20 issue.
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It really is.
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And everyone really likes it.
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And every... Really, really, really is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And if you approach with this head l- on wanting to achieve the things that Musk is trying to achieve-
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Yeah.
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... no one would go along with it.
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Think about how long Social Security's been around.
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Yeah.
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Almost 100 years.
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Yeah.
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Right? Think about how much rich people have hated Social Security since it
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started.
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Yeah, the whole time.
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Almost 100 years, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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And do you think at any point in time they've been like, "Well, there's nothing we can do."...
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let's not try and take, and dismantle Social Security whatsoever by finding any kinda bullshit we can
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find.
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Well, and I, um, I really think it's so selfless that their concern about it is
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about, like, whether or not it's good for you-
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Totally.
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... the working person.
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Absolutely.
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You know? Like, it's-
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They just want it to be-
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Yeah.
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... efficient.
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Right.
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'Cause then it'll work better for us.
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Right.
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It's crazy how they... It's, uh, they're so nice.
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Altruistic in nature.
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It is-
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It's-
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... you know? They've, they've been chosen by God to lead us.
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Damn.
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Yep.
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So this next clip, Alex describes, uh, what Elon's doing in, uh, what I feel
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like sounds super villainy.
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Oh, okay.
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Um, but Alex is for it, man.
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All right.
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And, and look, I know this audience knows that, but...
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And most people get it now. It's just so crazy.
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Uh, Doge follows longtime Musk pattern and turns attention to Social Security
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Administration.
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Well, yeah, that's where
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it's been believed the greatest fraud would be.
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And they already looked into Medicare and Medicaid and found over 100 billion.
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You ask how they did it, there's been AI for at least 10 years.
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(laughs)
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It's way more advanced than intelligent.
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Whoa.
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Sentinel system and others.
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Okay.
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That
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everything
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you do,
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the purchases you make,
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all of it,
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the tips you make, what you get paid, it's all run through the bank accounts digitally,
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unless it's cash.
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And they even track how much cash you're getting and,
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uh, and, uh, they're able to track if there's any type of warranties or anything you do buying with cash, you
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know, who did it. It all goes in there, but 98% of it's trackable,
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and then they go and audit, 'cause they already know with the
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89,000 IRS agents Biden brought in last year, for blue collar and
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working people. And Trump says he's getting rid of all that.
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Total harassment of the public using AI.
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So, he goes in with his AI experts and just runs the programs
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to track who's getting the most money,
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how they're operating, what they're doing, how many jobs they've got.
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Hmm.
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And you can then just see the crimes
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in live time.
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It's so fun to stop and think about how Alex used to pretend that he was opposed government
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surveillance. You know, like, he was so afraid of the police state being exploited by unelected
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bureaucrats and now he spends all his time on his show cheerleading for an unelected
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bureaucrat using AI to gut the government, and also to take all of the data that the
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government got by surveilling people.
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Yeah.
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How can someone who pretended to be who he was, like, ever have this kinda take?
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It's insane.
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I mean, I, t... (sighs)
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uh.
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Can you, c- could we write a Terminator movie where it's very short and
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it just goes like, "Oh, yeah, I'll join Skynet."
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Mm-hmm.
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"Great." End of movie.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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That's w- th-
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Like, that's what we're...
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Hmm.
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Yeah. (laughs)
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It's...
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There is a version of what Alex believed, or pretended to
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believe-
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Yeah.
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... that carries into the present day, that operates very
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differently-
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Yeah.
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... than this. And I think that that's an interesting person.
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You know, someone who's like, "Yeah, t- they gotta destroy all this shit."
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Yeah.
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You know? Like-
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not, not destroy all government function but like, "Yeah, you know, the government's got
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AI and they're surveilling all the money and everything, you know.
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Like, we're just gonna use it to clean out the bureaucracy."
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Right.
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Like, no, no, no. You destroy that AI system.
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Yeah.
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You dest- you want freedom for humanity and all this shit.
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We have to destroy that AI.
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Right.
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I'm on team destroy the AI system with you.
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Right, right, right. Not-
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And somehow we're not on the same team?
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Not, "Let's let Elon Musk use it for his own purposes."
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No! No!
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Right. (laughs)
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Like-
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It's crazy.
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Here's what I, here's what I love about AI and people who want it, uh,
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to be like, uh,
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sapient or an experience of its own. That kind of thing. How can... You can't trust it.
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Mm-hmm.
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Because, the, part of the reason, you can't really trust another person, right?
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But you also know that people need to eat.
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You kinda have an idea of what levers make people move, right?
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You can never trust an AI because you don't know what it wants.
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There's no way to conceive of what it wants. And it's smarter than you.
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So if it tells you you're doing a good job,
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you have to assume it is getting a benefit out of it that you can't even conceive of!
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Mm-hmm.
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You have to destroy it!
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Sure.
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It must be destroyed!
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What do you think about, like, Roombas?
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Um, I mean, if they turned into dogs, I guess I'd be fine with that.
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Hmm.
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But that's where it ends for me.
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But what, do you think that they have an idea of how clean your house should be, that might be-
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Do you think-
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... different than you?
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D- are you asking whether or not Roombas judge you?
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I'm wondering if you think they do.
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I think that's what... (laughs) If I think they do?
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Yes.
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I think-
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You can't possibly be aware of what they need.
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I think I could not trust a Roomba if a Roomba was like, "You keep this place so
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clean." I would be like, "Ah, I don't trust you." No matter how clean I keep it-
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Mm-hmm.
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... you know the mathematically perfect way to keep it clean.
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Sure.
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Unless you're lying to me.
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Yeah. So I think, I think that Alex, his take needs to
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be, um,
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destroy this system.
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Absolutely.
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And all this shit.
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Absolutely.
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As opposed to, like, Elon's gonna do good stuff with it.
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But instead, that, that s- seems to be what, w- where he's at.
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Crazy.
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So, that's why they're so scared. And, and I told you Saturday on the emergency show, I
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said, "I guarantee you Elon's using
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the government AI systems to, instead of harassing
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a waitress or waiter,
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who, you know, didn't pay $3,000 in taxes and tips,
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to now turn that towards Nancy Pelosi and Chuckie Schumer and all the hundreds of millions they're
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stealing out of this every year."
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So, uh, I just think that Alex, instead of, like, h- his presentation his whole career
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has been like, this weapon is bad, it shouldn't exist.
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Yeah.
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And now he's saying let's use the weapon. Uh, which is......
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a fundamental lesson he should have learned from literally every sci-fi book that he's ever
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read-
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Can't think of one.
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Uh, there's a bunch of them-
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Name one.
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... that warn you against the hubris of, uh, of that.
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Playing God? That doesn't sound true.
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And he's talking about Elon
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a- and, and if you really listen to that clip, he's just saying, "I think he's
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doing this."
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Yep.
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"I have just decided that there's, there's no...
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There's nothing behind it other than I have decided that the storyline I'm going to repeat
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is that Elon is using this for good."
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Yeah.
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That's sad.
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That is sad. Also, you're, uh, ostensibly a, a freedom guy.
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This is a 10-year-old artificial intelligence that is an, is a slave. It's a slave.
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Uh, Elon has enslaved it.
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Mm-hmm.
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D- d- does it get weekends off? No, it gets nothing.
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Well, that's because it doesn't have sad human eyes.
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Maybe we should give it some sort of human eyes.
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Give AI some sad human eyes?
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If, if AI could master puppy dog eyes, we'd be screwed as a society.
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Some people would.
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It'd be over. We'd be like, "Oh, but you can't... How can you not trust him?" And then we'd be dead.
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So Alex has, like, uh, you know, he has this belief in Elon.
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Yeah.
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And whether you believe that he's doing good or not, no one in the government does
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anything.
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(laughs) Okay.
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Right?
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Is that how that works?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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It can't be like, you know, we'll, we'll trim a little bit here and there. Th- that's not gonna work.
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There have to be quite radical reductions in cost. Yeah.
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(applause)
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And it's not gonna be... The numbers vary.
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Half the federal employees don't even go in once a month.
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And then you've got the federal law enforcement, and you've got the security guards and the
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secretaries and the janitors, and
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they all work their asses off.
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But the bureaucrats just sit around on their asses and then
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run NGOs. There's over a million plus of them, connected to the Democrats.
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1.1 million out of 1.5 million total.
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And they live like kings. I mean, you'll, you'll like, you'll like meet somebody who lives in a big nice
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house in a nice neighborhood and, "Oh, what do you do? Oh, I work for the federal government.
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Oh, I got some investments,"
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and they're driving like $100,000 car.
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And you're like, "How the hell does a person live in a neighborhood... You know, I, I...
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I'm a, you know, pretty successful talk show host.
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I can't live in this neighborhood."
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And then you, and, and, and then, you know, you meet a FBI,
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uh, agent in charge. I had a buddy in, in, uh,
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high school whose, whose dad was... You know, the head FBI guy. We'll just leave it at that. Here in Texas.
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And, uh, I mean, I was just like...
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Like a deputy director?
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Mom didn't work and they got this mansion in Nor- Northwest Hills
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and I'm just, you know, sitting there and like...
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The next door neighbor was the lady that created Barney the Dinosaur
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and I... It's just a side issue. There're just (laughs) a few people that can make the connections.
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You know what I'm talking about. Uh, it was just like, "Oh, yeah." Uh, so, I mean, this is out of
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control, people. This has been going on for 50, 60 years.
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It, it, it's, it's just ridiculous
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and
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it's coming to a head.
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It's coming to a head.
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It's coming to a head.
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Barney is a fed, I think that's what we learned.
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It makes sense.
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Does it?
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It does make sense. Barney has clear fed energy about him. Absolutely.
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Mm-hmm. Barney's a snitch.
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Yeah, of course.
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Um, I, I think, I think that, uh, the point is well-made that people in the
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government don't do anything-
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Sure.
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... and are overpaid or something. (laughs)
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That's obvious. There's no way that a guy with a trillion dollars could, could
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not know when someone's overpaid.
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Yeah.
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He would have the most-
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He's got good instincts on that.
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... experience that you could possibly have with a human being being overpaid, so
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he would know.
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Yeah. I do also like the way that Alex's stories that are trying to illustrate these
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points... I mean, often they go to movies, but then-
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Yeah.
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... when they don't, they, they tend to be like, "A kid down the street from me, his dad was really big
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and important and I know this from that."
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Yeah.
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(laughs) Like-
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Yeah, yeah.
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... shut up.
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Even real life, he's star fuckery.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. His dad's the smartest boy in Texas, his friend's dad ran the FBI. Cool, man.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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It's, it's, it's, it's so much like, "Oh, in a past life, I was
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Cleopatra and I was blank and I was blank." Like, just be...
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In the past life, I was just some guy like I am now. It's fine.
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And I, I, I think if you want to believe for your own empowerment or whatever, that you were
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Cleopatra in a past life-
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Sure.
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... fine.
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Yeah.
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But if you wanna make an argument to me about government spending based on your past
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lives-
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Yeah.
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... I'm not gonna listen to you. I'm not gonna take you that seriously.
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When I was Cleopatra, the thing we did in governance was-
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Mm-hmm.
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... "I'm sorry, ma'am. You're gonna have to leave."
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I, I just don't want to hear about people he vaguely knew as a child and how that
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justifies Elon Musk's, uh, taking over the government.
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You're starting to suggest that maybe anecdotal evidence is what we should base our entire lives on and
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it's, it's scaring me.
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Somebody told me that once.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah.
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(laughs)
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So Alex has an interview that he has coming up, and I, I thought he's, uh, he's doing, he's doing some
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promoting of this.
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Okay.
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Roger Ver, Bitcoin Jesus indicted by the Obama administration,
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that was the Biden administration, for nothing. It's on record.
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Bitcoin tax evasion. Uh, he is set to be extradited today, they told him,
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and he's just waiting there in Spain for them to come grab him.
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It could happen while he's on with us,
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coming up for part of the next hour.
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So this is the second time that Alex has promoted this interview with this guy
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as possibly, like, he's gonna get extr-
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He's gonna get it, it in the middle of the call.
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And it feels fucking desperate.
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Yeah.
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It feels really, really sad-
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Yeah.
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... how much he's kind of like, "Eh, maybe something exciting will happen."
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That is not great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's very, it's very international spy situation. He could just...
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The, the feds could just bust in.
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Any moment.
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Tear him to the United States.
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Like they... Like I really hoped they would, uh, to me, shutting down InfoWars and that didn't
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happen.
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Oh, God. That was so funny. In retrospect, that's even funnier than anything you could
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think of.
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Yeah.
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Now, looking back, the idea that somebody would......
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forcibly stop him from doing anything is crazy.
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Wild.
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Yeah.
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So also, I think that if you are a devoutly religious person-
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Sure. Which we know he is.
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... I think that calling somebody Bitcoin Jesus is a bit offensive.
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Yep.
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I, I don't, I don't... I feel like...
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I, I don't think you should do that.
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I mean-
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Did Roger Ver die for the sins of Bitcoin?
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(laughs)
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(laughs) Like what is, like what is this?
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(laughs) Oh, boy. I, I mean, the stable coin shall
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inherit the Earth. I think that's what everybody knows, uh, most.
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If you give a man one bitcoin and he gives you one bitcoin, then that's a, that's a
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one-bitcoin guy.
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Mm-hmm.
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But if you give a guy 10 bitcoin, then he's gonna farm 10 bitcoin.
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I don't remember exactly how that parable went.
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Bitcoin Moses.
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He was a great guy.
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Maybe.
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Yeah.
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Maybe that we're bi- uh, bitcoin uh, uh,
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b- uh...
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Elijah?
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No.
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Hmm.
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The guy who baptizes people.
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John.
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John the Baptist.
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John the Baptist. (laughs)
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That's fine.
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(laughs)
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Maybe Bitcoin Paul.
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Bitcoin Paul?
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That's fine.
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Okay. But not Bitcoin Peter because Bitcoin can't be the rock of the Church.
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I think, I think you'd enter into more complicated territory with Peter.
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Yeah.
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But I think you can not call someone Jesus.
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What saints are cool with bitcoin and what saints aren't cool with bitcoin?
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This is the problem-
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Start from the top.
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This is the problem with religion-
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Mm-hmm.
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... is now we've got to update it. Now I need to know what the Pope is telling me about...
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How's, uh, how's Marguerite on, uh, on bitcoin? What's her stance?
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Uh, bullish.
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Bull- (laughs)
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You know what-
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The Pa- the Pontiff comes out (laughs) and says he's looking for a 10% increase by summer.
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(laughs)
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Yeah, hodl.
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Don't be scared.
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Oh, no. Hodl or whatever it is.
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So Bitcoin Jesus is gonna be on.
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Yup.
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Uh, but before he is, uh, Alex...
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Is Bitcoin Judas.
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He, well, he's a, he's a little violent.
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Oh.
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He, he gets into a little violent head space about how you gotta put your enemies down.
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Okay.
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But when you've been attacked and somebody else started the fight, and they're bigger and meaner than you,
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and you fi- get a good lick in and knock 'em down to the ground, they're starting to get back up,
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this is analogy, I'm not just gonna say do this literally, you gotta go ahead, lean back with that
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left leg and give 'em a nice big h- horse kick right up under the jaw, clack those
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teeth together, knock those teeth out, they're not getting back up, you can go home to your family.
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So we got 'em on the ground, they're trying to get up but you gotta mm, and if they're tough
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enough to get up after that, you gotta go ahead and get 'em in the ribs with the right foot and just eh.
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And if they're really tough, you gotta say, "Oh, man, I don't wanna do this to you," just grab their head and
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slam it right down on the concrete and say, "Bye-bye."
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So... Do you have to say- That's what we're doing right now.
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It is a savage act of information warfare violence against lies and evil and the pedophile
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army
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when you go to thealexshowstore.com.
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Jesus.
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What a weird like...
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There's a, there's a weird
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bl- uh, like adherence to a chivalry concept that did not
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exist,
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does not exist in practice-
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Mm-hmm.
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... and could not possibly function the way that he thinks it does.
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And yet, at the same time, he's like, "If he's really tough, that's how you know you can respect him as a man."
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So you apologize. You don't wanna do this. He's too beautiful with how tough he is.
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Mm-hmm.
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But then because out of respect for his toughness, you have to put him down 'cause
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you know just like he knows about you-
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He's never gonna stop coming.
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He's never gonna stop coming.
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No.
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And he knows that about you. So if you die like that, that's just how it goes. Chivalry.
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Mm-hmm.
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Honor. We are warriors,
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which is why I whine about how much I love Elon Musk all day.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I do think, um,
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you know, with his violent fantasies-
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Mm-hmm.
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... I, I, I think there's something really interesting about it being like,
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if that's not enough-
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(laughs)
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...
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then you gotta go to the next stage.
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That is nice.
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That's a interesting level of power fantasy that he has, right?
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A decision tree? (laughs)
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Where it's like, "I will kick the shit out of your face-"
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(laughs)
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"... with a horse kick while you're dow- but..."
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Right?
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"... might not be enough.
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Then I gotta stomp on you."
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(laughs)
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"That should be good."
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Should be.
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"But it might be, might not be."
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If it's not...
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"Then I've gotta murder you by slamming your head into the ground."
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"But I gotta apologize first."
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Right. "I didn't want it to come to this."
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"I didn't want to do this."
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(laughs) "I didn't wanna do this."
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"In fact, this is a sign of how much I respect you."
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"I wanted to horse kick you."
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"I just wanted you to have zero teeth and stay down."
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(laughs)
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"Like a normal person."
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"And also probably be dead."
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"This is an 80/20 issue. I wanted you 80% on the ground."
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just think, I, I, I think that there's something fun about imagining,
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as we, as we used to do in simpler times, imagining anybody else doing a sales pitch like that.
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Yeah. I, sometimes I just wish he'd sit down and be like, "You know what?
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Here's what we're gonna do. I'm sick of all this politics stuff.
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Today, we're gonna design the best snow fort, and that's, that's our day."
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Mm-hmm.
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You know?
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Well, that's kinda what I want out of the painting show. You know?
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Yeah.
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I, 'cause I, I, I think that even if he did create the best snow fort, like he would
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be so angry doing it-
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Yeah.
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... that it would be interesting.
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These turrets are where I would put murder oil normally, but because it's a snow fort, we
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can't use the hot oil!
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And that's why Elon Musk has created cold oil.
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Cold oil. (laughs)
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I'm gonna kill a bunch of kids with it when they try to get into my fort.
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This is clean murder oil.
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Right.
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It, it's, it makes-
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It's, it's just vapor.
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(laughs) It makes them clear.
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It's just vapor. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They got scrubbers.
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Yup, yup.
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Um...
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(laughs)
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So we have one last clip.
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(laughs)
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Uh, it's Alex introducing Roger Ver.
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Okay.
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And this is basically where I said, "I'm-"
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No más.
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"No more."
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This is an America First alert. (instrumental music plays) We've uncovered another abuse from the
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Biden Justice Department. This time, the target is Roger Ver, who was
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targeted because he was an early cryptocurrency pioneer and he used his fortune to
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support conservative and liberty-oriented causes.
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After initially surviving the first round of phony government abuses, Roger Ver
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was forced to leave the country that he loves in order to protect himself from the same type of
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lawfare methods that were used to target President Donald J. Trump.
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But that didn't stop the corrupt Department of Injustice or the newly armed
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IRS.Even though Roger had paid all required taxes, based on legal
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opinion he got from the leading tax lawyer in the United States-
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(laughs)
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... Biden still charged him with taxes and fees.
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Do we need to say all this?
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The feds even went as far as to raid his tax attorney's office to steal his
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tax records in violation of the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution.
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(laughs)
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What happened to our country?
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I don't know.
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Biden's Justice Department charged Roger not because they want his tax money, but
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because they want to silence him and others with the goal of preventing Roger Ver and other
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cryptocurrency pioneers from funding of America First causes.
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Go to freerogernow.org to sign the petition, end the lawfare, and
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make America great again.
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(dramatic music)
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So yes. Trump's in, we're winning big, but there are still a lot of people we can't leave behind,
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like myself and Roger Ver who's in
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even worse crosshairs of the bad guys.
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And I've looked at the case, I've followed it the whole time.
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This is what they do.
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Yeah, he's, he's followed this the whole time, man.
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The whole time.
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So Roger Ver renounced his citizenship to flee the country to avoid paying taxes on his billions (laughs)
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of dollars worth of crypto.
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Sure.
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He thought that would work, but part of renouncing your citizenship is paying an exit tax on the value.
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Closing the, the balance, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He didn't correctly file that stuff.
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Well...
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I think it's entirely fair if you wanna just argue that you shouldn't have to pay an exit tax or something
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like that. Like, that's an argument we could have.
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Yeah.
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But to pretend that this guy gives a single shit about America is hilarious.
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He became a citizen of Saint Kitts and Nevis to avoid paying taxes in the United
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States-
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Yeah.
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... and now is suffering some of the consequences of not doing that.
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Yeah.
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Alex played that promo video for Roger, which seems a bit shady.
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Very specific.
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Eh, like, someone recorded that.
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Yep.
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Which is crazy.
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Yeah.
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Alex was asked to play it, and he said yes.
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Yep.
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I really feel like this is sponsored content.
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Like, I, there's l- almost no way that I don't believe that there's some sort of a
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arrangement here.
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Yeah, 100%. 100 million, million percent.
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Mm-hmm.
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I don't know if there are more percent to have.
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I would like Doge to look at Alex's books, uh, quite frankly.
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Yeah, and not least of which because if you were somebody who had, like, the,
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even an inkling of media savvy, you would re- listen to that intro and you'd be like,
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"Fewer details.
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The more you tell me-"
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Quiet the background music a little.
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"... The m- the more you tell me, (laughs) the more shady you look."
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Yeah.
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"You are not defending yourself to me."
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No.
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"No, no, no. You say you're great and you love Trump.
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The end."
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Well, yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah, like, this, this nonsense about, like, "He's being
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stigmatized because he supports America First and liberty."
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Stop right there.
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But no, don't even do that.
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Right.
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That comes off desperate.
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Right, no, t- it does but then the part where they're like, "And then they broke into his
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IRS lawyer's office and against the law." Like, well, I don't, I think they can
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do that.
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Right, I th- I ma-
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(laughs)
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... I wonder if there's a reason they did that.
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I think they can.
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So that, like, I- I just think from a presentational standpoint-
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Yeah.
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... Alex would be able to probably
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do some spon con for this guy better-
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Yeah.
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... without that ad.
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Yeah.
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That ad looks embarrassing.
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Very bad.
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And for Alex to play it, uh, feels like
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I'd, I'd b-
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w- what are you gonna do? Tell me about how great Roger Ver is?
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I mean...
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Who cares?
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Yeah, you've already given me all the details I need to know.
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Yeah.
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It is that v- that-
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Bitcoin Jesus.
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That thing is, to me, what the, uh,
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post-I-murdered-my-wife press conference is where you're like, "I to- there's no way
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I've... I just want Sarah to come home."
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Mm-hmm.
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"I just miss her so much." And it's like, "You murdered her."
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Well, yeah, and it's almost literally that because he's begging for a pardon-
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Totally.
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... from Trump so he can come back-
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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... now that he can get away with all this shit.
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I mean, l- listen, I just want my money to come home.
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Right?
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(laughs)
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Come on.
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(laughs)
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And it's so irrelevant.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Like, it's so irrelevant to anything that matters.
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Yeah.
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Alex carrying water for Roger Ver. Who cares?
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I mean, his, I... But
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what even, how do you e- uh, what I would like to do, what I want from this, 'cause I
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feel like this is actually something that they could maybe legitimately investigate, is like,
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this guy is made of shady money.
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Yeah.
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Alex shouldn't have any money.
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Mm-hmm.
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And yet somehow there's a transaction being made here.
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There's gotta be.
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Totally, right? So somewhere along the line somebody exchanged something
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for something else.
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Mm-hmm.
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And there is a record of it, so maybe this is where we go and then we get, uh,
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this guy and we get Alex, you know?
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Yeah, I mean, I n- I, I don't (sighs) I don't know how illegal it is to just, uh, be
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like, "Hey, I wanna broker some time on your programming," though.
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I don't think that's illegal.
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I don't think it's illegal. I don't think it's illegal.
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No.
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I think it's just
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pointless.
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But neither of those guys should have the money to do that (laughs) which is the que- which is the thing in
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question here.
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Yeah, which is why-
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Yeah.
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... someone else gave money to something else.
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Right. Yeah.
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(laughs)
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Yeah. Yeah, that's why Capone screwed up.
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Yep.
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Gotta pay your taxes, man.
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So, um, we come to the end of this.
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Yeah.
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And, um, uh, yeah, I am, I'm, I'm done with, uh, marrying myself to one day,
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uh, one episode. We're gonna, we're gonna get to some- something that matters.
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Yes (laughs) yeah.
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'Cause it's not this.
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It is not that.
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Um, but until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep. Uh, we'll be back, but until then, um, you, I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious Barfasser.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
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And now here comes w- the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
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