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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Love you.
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I love you too.
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And George, Knowledgefight.
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Need the money.
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Andy and truth.
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Editor.
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Stop it.
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And Marxist.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and...
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Oh, Alex, some of your fans.
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I love your worst.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk
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a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Good question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is Jason Pargin's new book, formerly Nom de Plumed Under David Wong,
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perhaps still, I don't remember.
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But his new book is out, it's called I'm Starting to Worry About This Black Box of Doom, a slight
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unwieldiness of title.
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Sure.
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As is the fashion.
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Yeah.
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But it's actually, it's very, very good.
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It's a really, really good book.
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Unfortunately we weren't able to work out and interview stuff, but it's really good
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and I think everybody would like it.
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Nice.
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I think it's like right up the alley of people having the type of conversation that is surrounding
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conspiracy theories all the time.
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It's one of those books that's like, it explores a bunch of different avenues that maybe you
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wouldn't have thought of.
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I wish you would have given me this plug last time because I could have used it during my
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bright spot.
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Ooh.
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Which I'll get to in a second.
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Interesting.
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Okay.
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Do you have anything else?
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Booker.
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Sorry.
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I realized that was almost cutting you off.
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No, I'm good.
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All good.
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Yeah.
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So my bright spot is my secret mission.
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Yes, of course.
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I went to Pennsylvania.
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Yes, you did.
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I went to Reading, Pennsylvania Reading.
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Reading?
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Reading.
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I refuse to, I do not acknowledge pronunciations at all anymore.
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Anybody from Britain who tells me that this is how it's supposed to be pronounced is wrong.
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So I accept the same thing for America too.
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I went there for the Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson live show to take it all in, experience it
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as like in person because I knew we were going to hear about it, we were probably going to
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cover it.
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Sure.
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I wanted to be able to tell you about the vibes.
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I wanted to do a vibe check on them.
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It's good to have vibes.
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It's good to not see it just through a computer screen sometimes.
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So I could have read this book on the plane if you had told me.
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Yes, you could have.
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That's the connective tissue there.
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I see that now.
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It's a good book.
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So yeah, I went for a real quick trip, flew into Pennsylvania and went to this stupid
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show and came back.
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God, what a waste.
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I mean, I don't know what to say.
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I admire you for the adventure.
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I don't envy you for the adventure.
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I am happy to be a middle-aged man who's staying at home with his dogs and wife.
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That's great.
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That does sound great and it really wasn't that much of an adventure.
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I think that I got it in my head of this idea of it's happening.
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This may never happen again.
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Shit's falling apart pretty well for Alex in a lot of ways that could be pretty serious
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in the near future.
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And the idea of Tucker doing an arena tour and having Alex on as a guest, that's probably
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... the odds of that happening again are pretty slim.
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So it just came into my head as a joke and then I couldn't not do it.
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Yeah, I mean, it was hard to- So I had to have the follow through.
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So anyway, we're going to be talking about that today.
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Indeed.
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Going to Pennsylvania to see the stupid show and then covering the stupid show.
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Yeah.
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And what I just... I don't want to... I don't even know how to say it because we're
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a radio format, but my man, your mustache is radiant, if you will.
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Thank you.
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It is fantastical.
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I should explain that in order to go, I wanted to go in disguise.
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Incognito.
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So what I decided to do was I decided to shave just my chin, so I'd have the chopstache going.
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Yes, the chopstache.
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And I thought like, well, no one will recognize me like this.
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No one did recognize me actually, but I met up with a friend of the show, Amanda, there
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to go to the show.
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And we were walking down the street outside the venue.
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The first person I saw was somebody with a chopstache.
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I was like- Welcome home, brother.
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Yeah, I picked my outfit like perfectly.
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I fit right in.
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That's awesome.
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But yeah, since I've shaved the sides, now I just have the handlebar mustache.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, it looks good.
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You sent me a picture before you went and I think you meant it as a joke.
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Sort of.
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Genuinely.
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Or, you know, 50 fiddle ground.
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You know what?
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In hindsight, I'm not sure if it was a joke or not.
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Yeah, I mean, it surprisingly looks pretty good.
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It's like, oh yeah, that fits on you.
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So this handlebar mustache, my plan with it is I saw a movie with Sam Elliott in it.
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Yes.
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Might've been Ghost Rider.
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Sure.
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Ghost Rider.
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Ghost Rider, not Ghost Rider.
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Yeah.
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It's like a Western look of like the beard a little bit shorter than the mustache.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I was like- Always a good one.
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That looks good.
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That is a good look.
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So I want to try that.
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Yeah.
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That old timey like, oh, you have a mustache, but you know, it's the old West, so it's been
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five days since you shaved, so you got the beard, mustache, yeah, that's great.
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Yeah.
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Look grizzled as fuck.
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That's what I'm shooting for now.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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More grizzle, please.
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Yeah.
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Sam Elliott, but I'm a podcaster.
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You know what?
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I thought that Sam Elliott being the greatest bouncer in the history of the world was badass,
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but now that I know he could do a podcast- It's a cooler.
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That's shit.
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So, Jordan, today we're going to talk about this, but first let's take a little moment
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to say hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, Dunkey, the diaper warrior who just turned one, thank you so much, you are now
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a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Dan and Jordan should go on the Blank Check podcast to discuss the David Lynch version
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of Dude and how much Alex Jones quotes it and the other works of Frank Herbert.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, I'd love a shout out to just Sam.
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Doesn't even have to be me.
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Let's just say it's Sam who runs HR at my company.
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I get all her emails I shouldn't see so she can get my shout out.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we get a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Alex.
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You're the best chosen brother I could have ever asked for, and I love you, Zoe.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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I'm guessing that wasn't Alex Jones.
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I don't believe so.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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We'll never know.
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I mean it's possible.
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I went to this event, like I said, multiple times already, it was stupid, and we will
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cover that show, but there was also a little thing that Alex and Tucker did before the
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show, which was Alex trying to interview him for his show.
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Right.
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Gotcha, that makes sense.
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Getting a little bit of content from me.
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Double up.
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We're there, we're in the same space, might as well shoot an extra half hour content.
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We're at the hotel in Lancaster.
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And so let's go ahead and shoot a little video.
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Let's do it.
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So here's where that begins.
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With only 43 days, that's 1,000 hours, to the most important election in world history.
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I know it's a cliche, but it's really happening now, everybody can feel it and see it.
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We're with America's favorite populist journalist, Tucker Carlson.
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Tucker.
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Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for having me, in your hotel suite here in whatever
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city we're in in Pennsylvania.
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At a secret location.
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I saw him in the restaurant, ran over and stalked him and said, you got to come up before
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we go to your big event tonight.
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He said, sure, I'll give you a few minutes.
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So Tucker, wow.
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A lot of serious stuff going on.
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You want to kind of repeat what you were just saying before we started taping here for pretty
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powerful stuff?
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Well, first of all, it's not my event, it's your event tonight.
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Boo.
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And I can't wait in Redding, Pennsylvania, but no, I was just saying, we were just discussing
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the news and you know, you can feel that evil is on the march, actually.
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So I left the Tucker event with a few very strong impressions, but none of them were
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as clear and as vivid as how much this man overuses actually as a catchphrase.
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He uses it like a punctuation mark at the end of sentences, the way that some people
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used to do with literally.
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It's just a rhetorical technique that he's using to try to emphasize the things he's
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saying, but taken as a word that it means something, what Tucker is conveying is something
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along the lines of, I really mean this.
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His use of actually is meant to augment sentences that sound extreme or like metaphors to assure
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the viewers that he actually means what he's saying.
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Evil really is on the march.
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This isn't just flowery language that I'm using for shock value.
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Tucker says actually so many times and so condescendingly that I was tempted to make
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a supercut of every time he did it throughout the event, but then I realized that it didn't
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matter.
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We'd be recording tomorrow.
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But then I did it anyway.
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Oh, God damn it.
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Actually.
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Actually, I was disgusted by it actually, and actually I've fished here a lot hurting
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like actually our leaders did that actually damn you actually there's no love actually
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actually there's a beautiful town actually and they're not zombies actually you're evil
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actually they're violence worshipers actually you can't be Dick Cheney actually sorry it's
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not allowed.
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They don't do anything actually.
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Animals don't commit genocide actually.
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So it's a little bit annoying.
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He's a little bit of a it's while I was sitting there watching the shows like oh my God again.
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This is a lot.
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You know who everybody loved in junior high the kid who was like well actually it's not
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what you say it's what I say it really makes him come off cool yeah and like I want to
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hang out with everybody was like oh man being around you is so enjoyable and fun when we
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don't get to say or enjoy things actually.
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So what Tucker is saying there in the clip though when he's talking to Alex is true.
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This show is not really a Tucker event.
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It's meant to launder his guests to the Fox News generation viewers that came along with
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Tucker after he got fired and went along to this new endeavor.
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Many of the people who are on his show are selected specifically because they're the
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people who Tucker needs to convince the audience aren't that bad like Alex or Kid Rock or Russell
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Brand.
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This is about creating a new media ecosystem and an important part of that is making sure
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the viewer the viewers don't get a bad view of various figures who are going to play into
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that ecosystem.
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The show is about selling Alex.
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So Tucker exists on it in that capacity.
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It's not a Tucker show.
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It's a Tucker presents kind of situation where you want to be like this guy is the profit.
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Yeah yeah.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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He's not actually I don't think he's buttering up Alex.
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I think he's that's for real.
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You know this is this is your show.
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Yeah I mean I believe that it's a it's a little bit boy.
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How do you how do you launder.
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What would be the historical comparison for laundering a guy like this.
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Like like the Romanovs trying to launder.
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Oh God.
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Now I can't remember the name.
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Rasputin.
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Yes.
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Yeah yeah yeah.
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Like Romanovs bringing out Rasputin like hey ladies and gentlemen we've got Rasputin
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here.
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It's pretty fun when you hang out with him.
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A guy looking like a fucking demon walking out.
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Yeah that makes sense.
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I could see that.
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Yeah.
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I don't know but I think that Tucker really needs to bank on Alex not being around much
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longer.
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He really wants this whole game to work out.
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It's really inconvenient for Alex to continue to do his show and continue to be around because
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he's going to keep making all these bullshit stupid predictions that don't end up happening.
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Right.
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He's going to be like oh wait maybe this guy's not a prophet maybe he's an asshole.
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So you think Tucker's trying to like vampirically suck out the very last drops of juice that
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Alex has got.
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Yeah kind of.
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I mean no it makes sense.
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If you're a vampire that's what you do.
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If he's not this is insane.
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Any other motivation does not make sense.
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That is a great Sherlock quote is like well obviously vampires are real because otherwise
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this human being is a fucking lunatic.
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Occam's Razor tells me he must be trying to do something vampire-like.
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So Tucker talks about how he's not worried.
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He has hope.
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You gotta have hope.
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And I was just saying we're saying what's going to happen in the election we're talking
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about it off camera and of course I don't know.
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I'm always wrong in my predictions but I have a strong feeling of hope and I'm not afraid
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at all.
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I don't know why.
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Because I think victory is coming and by victory I mean specifically the victory of the human
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spirit over the machine which is trying to crush it which is anti-human and non-human
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I would say.
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But I'm not afraid for some reason I'm not exactly sure why it's like I'm so rich or
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something and I'm not afraid I'm not.
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But then I'm not afraid because I feel on some deep animal level that these people just
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aren't going to win.
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I mean there may be short term victories I don't know.
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But there will be no long term victories for these people.
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Tucker has every reason to have hope.
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He's way richer than he's pretending to be and he's managed to create a new space for
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himself outside of Fox News that's going to be profitable if Trump wins or loses.
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No matter what he's going to make a lot of money and that's got to feel pretty good.
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For most of his career Tucker was a partisan hack on cable news entertainment shows.
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He got paid by the network to say stuff that would get attention and viewers which all
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worked in a really good balance for many years.
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When Bush was in office he was on the side of the power and mostly defended policies
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and rationalized why things were going you know they were going as well as they could
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you know we've got to cut the man some slack.
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When Obama was in office he was the opposition party and attacked proposed policies and demanded
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that everything needed to be going better.
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Tucker was good at playing the game because he was a particularly interesting blend of
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smart and vapid and he made it about as far as he could playing that game.
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But signing up with Trump had its consequences.
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He got huge ratings so Tucker thought he was bulletproof treating all the people around
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him like shit and doing patently libelous broadcasts about the 2020 election.
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He got fired by Fox and then he went on the whole structure of the game like went away
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that he was playing for his entire career.
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Tucker feels hope now because he's decided to play his own game free of the rules he's
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been restrained by before and it's worked.
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He's found the Holy Grail an audience that doesn't have any standards at all so long
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as you make them feel good.
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If I were him I'd feel great and hopeful too.
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He doesn't believe all this shit about literal demons nipping at everybody's feet.
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He's just found people who will give him tons of money to pretend to be worried about that
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and I don't know how a con man could be in a more hopeful situation.
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It really pisses you off that these are the same people who think sex workers should be
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illegal because I see very little difference between the two.
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In terms of you make people feel good for money?
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I don't see much difference there.
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I think that in my experience sex workers don't often have supplement lines.
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Yes, again they're better people.
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So Tucker gets into complaining about probably the thing that carries him through the whole
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day.
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Yeah.
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This is in this interview and then later on the show he's going to complain about it and
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that was that he saw a picture of Zelensky signing a bomb with Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania
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governor Josh Shapiro.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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There with him at a photo op.
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Okay, he wasn't signing it to Josh Shapiro?
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No.
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No.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Although it would be interesting.
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That would be a new one.
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So Tucker complains about that.
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Okay.
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Well I just saw a photograph of Josh Shapiro who's the governor of Pennsylvania who's evil.
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I'm not saying that lightly, with Zelensky who was campaigning for Kamala Harris and
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Democrats using U.S. military aircraft to get around, using our tax dollars.
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Here's the video right now.
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He's campaigning right now in the key swing state today as we speak and I saw Josh Shapiro
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signing artillery shells with his name that are going to kill Russians in a war that we
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have not declared against Russia, will kill civilians and I thought evil is just open.
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Can you imagine signing an artillery shell that's going to be used to kill civilians
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in a war that you're not even in?
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When it's the biggest nuclear power in the world, what'd you make of Biden going, yeah,
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we don't want the blame but go ahead and use the storm shadows.
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So Zelensky visited an ammunition factory in Scranton, Pennsylvania the day before this
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and Tucker has decided that this was a Harris campaign event.
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This is something I think is kind of on the line.
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It makes total sense that Zelensky would visit this ammunition factory and it doesn't have
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to be a partisan event.
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Because the Republican Party is very much in support of Russia and Putin, the only people
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who would tend to show up for an event like this would end up being Democrats.
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The timing is iffy though since the election is so close and Pennsylvania is a swing state
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so I can kind of understand having some complaints about that event happening at all.
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I kind of get it but also Tucker's being a little dramatic and going overboard about
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this whole thing as a whole.
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He interviewed Putin.
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Get out of here.
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I don't think I would necessarily defend the simple act of autographing a bomb but I also
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don't think that's weird in wartime.
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Like a bunch of people signed the atomic bomb fat man that ended up being dropped on Nagasaki.
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The problem isn't the signatures, it's the bombs.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Earlier this year Nikki Haley wrote finish them on an artillery shell when she was in
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Israel and in the sake of fairness I do have to say that Tucker did complain about this
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as well as her saying finish them in a news interview that she did.
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Sure.
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I think it's less a case of intellectual consistency and more a matter of her being Trump's primary
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opponent at the time but you know in the interest of fairness he did call that out as well.
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I mean he did jerk off whenever Trump dropped the Moab.
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True.
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Also Biden has not approved Ukrainian use of storm shadow missiles.
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Alex is just making that up and hiding behind weird qualified language in order to pretend
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that's what's happening.
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It's weird.
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Yeah.
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But you know I guess if you're in Pennsylvania and you see this picture of people signing
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a bomb.
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Sure.
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I got your, that's all you need.
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I mean.
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That's all the fuel you need for the day?
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Getting real angry?
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You know I guess it makes sense for everybody to do what it is that they are doing from
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where they began.
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You know like all the things that they chose that led them to this point.
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But if I'm just sitting there like not knowing all of the details and I just saw this I'd
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be like all of you need to stop whatever it is you're doing and go do anything else.
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Because what this is is stupid.
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I do think that I am unfortunately positioned to have seen this show because I understand
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a lot of the like ah I get what they're talking about you know but it's truly dumb.
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This is truly dumb.
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If you just look at it as like you're saying from an external standpoint this is stupid.
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It's just like I get how everybody got here.
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That's the problem.
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Everybody stop.
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Everybody just sit down like heads up 7up.
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Can we play heads up 7up for like an hour and then by the time everybody's done we'll
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figure it out.
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We took a hundred wrong turns and each of those wrong turns kind of felt like eh maybe
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we're not that far off course.
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But now we're here and this town is not where we were heading.
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So far away.
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This is bad.
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This is bad.
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So Tucker talks about how his enemies.
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The problem with them is that they delight in killing.
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Sure.
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They revel in murder.
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That would be a problem.
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Just the delight they take in killing and in blood I mean it's it tells you exactly
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who they are.
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These people are thrilled by the idea of ending human life.
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They worship abortion.
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They worship war.
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They worship euthanasia.
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They worship killing other human beings.
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And maybe it's just my age or something but I've never seen it with the clarity I see
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it with now.
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And I see it as just undisguised evil which is what they are.
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Why do you think the death cult is so undisguised now?
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Probably a combination of factors.
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They are afraid.
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They understand they don't have the consent of the people they govern.
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So like the democracy talk is not only ridiculous it's the opposite of the truth or it's not
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democracy of course.
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And I think they know that and it makes them nervous.
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I get that Zelensky signing a bomb is a tough image for Tucker but he needs to stop pretending
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that the people he supports aren't just as bloodthirsty and violent as the people he's
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critiquing.
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His savior Trump took out an ad in the paper calling for the execution of the Central Park
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5 in 1989 and hasn't been particularly chill since then.
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I know that people remember that Trump paid to publish that open letter but it's easy
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to forget what he wrote from that letter titled quote bring back the death penalty bring back
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our police quote Mayor Koch has stated that hate and rancor should be removed from our
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hearts.
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I do not think so.
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I want to hate these muggers and murderers.
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They should be forced to suffer and when they kill they should be executed for their crimes.
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They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing
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a crime or an act of violence.
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Yes Mayor Koch I want to hate these murderers and I always will.
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I'm not looking to psychoanalyze or understand them I'm looking to punish them.
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If the punishment is strong the attacks on innocent people will stop.
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He wasn't calling for some preferred policy he was expressing a deep desire for revenge
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against five dudes who were wrongly convicted of crimes that they'd later be exonerated
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for.
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We could spend all day going over all the threats Trump's has made reveling in violence
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and blood.
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He threatened to obliterate Iran bring fire and fury to North Korea and he wanted to nuke
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hurricanes which doesn't seem like a problem for Tucker he's not thirsty for any violence.
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Yeah.
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That's because the complaint that he's making isn't sincere.
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Tucker's complaint is not real.
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No no.
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I mean the French aristocracy were very much like ah this rabble they're so violent now
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stab him stab him stab him some more.
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I just think that this would come off a little bit more sincere if the person that he defended
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and supported wasn't a complete lunatic bent on violence.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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I mean it is it is so wild sometimes because it's like if it weren't Trump you could see
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them getting away with it so much easier.
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You know like if like with Bush it's more believable if it's Ron Paul.
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Totally yeah it's totally more believable if it's anybody else.
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But when it's Trump it's like guys it is too obvious you can't launder this.
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This is insane.
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I get I get what you're doing with the demon stuff and it's fun.
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Totally get it.
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Totally get it.
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Everybody's like no no we would be on board.
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So no also here's the issue too that no one worships any of the stuff that Tucker is whining
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about here.
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Ironically all of those things that he brings up are issues that Tucker's on the side that
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opposes self-ownership and autonomy about like euthanasia and reproductive health care.
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The reason he has to pretend that people support those things because they love death is that
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if he didn't he'd have to deal with the issues like a rational adult and he couldn't maintain
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his positions.
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It's impossible for him to justify the state telling you that you don't have the right
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to end your own life on your own terms and simultaneously pretend that he's so mad about
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the government controlling your life.
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You know like it's you can't complain about regulation and be like yeah well you know
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yeah euthanasia is possible.
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Yeah I mean it does feel like once you start calling for a theocracy that even but then
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like the trick is even if you don't if you don't call for a theocracy but you purely
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base everything on theology then you're no you're never held accountable to either you're
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never held accountable to what should the law be or like okay okay fine we're doing
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your theology are we are we doing your theology yeah hold yourself accountable that they never
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have to do either.
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Yeah it makes me think of a little bit later Tucker says like uh I'm not a I'm not I'm
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not a politics guy I'm an ideologue it's like go fuck yourself dipshit.
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You're talking about his politics you hosted crossfire uh actually shut the fuck up dweeb.
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Jesus Christ.
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So uh in on the subject of reveling in violence sure Alex remembers the story that he always
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tells about Richard Pearl right the merchant of death the merchant of death or the something
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of death angel of death I don't know anyway uh that guy uh fun fact uh maybe friends with
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Tucker.
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I got a quick story now we got to go on this few more questions are you being gracious
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I remember it was the new york times article it was the washington post back in the middle
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of the second gulf war it was like 2006 or so and Richard Pearl they call him the prince
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of darkness uh we have 400 came and find his ass both hands definitely can't get a woman
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he sidles up back in the new york times and still told truth occasionally to a bunch of
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gorgeous female reporters and they they ignore him and he goes don't you know I am and he
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says I kill a lot of people they went I mean imagine what the job was like I kill a lot
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of people with Obama you know I'm really good at killing people with predator drones and
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the guy probably could win a fistfight there's there's something inherently sick and twisted
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and also stunted about that.
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Oh I remember Paul Wolf was very very well really in the war on terrible that g-watt
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showing up in some country that had supposedly some Islamist militia he was going to go to
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the scene and he was carrying in a shoulder holster a 45 a 1911 style handgun and I was
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like which which I shoot for fun and I'm like wow that's a 45 so Paul Wolf is the one side
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the bullet comes out of and I remember thinking he doesn't need that she just turns him on
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to dress up like a cowboy or he's guarded by black water you know a hundred percent.
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This is all a lot of fun for them I'm sure but this conversation is pretty fucking stupid
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in context.
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Alex has done multiple shows with a giant gun on his desk and frequently discusses weapons
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in highly erotic terms.
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If Tucker really has a problem with people sensualizing violence or guns he's sitting
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next to possibly the biggest offender in that realm plus I know that Alex only half remembers
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this story that he loves to tell about Richard Pearl but does he not remember that Tucker
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was a huge advocate for the Bush administration like on November 11th 2001 Tucker was hosting
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Crossfire and Richard Pearl was his guest Pearl was asked where the US should attack
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after Afghanistan in order to further the war on terror Pearl replied quote my candidate
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is a rock because Saddam Hussein is very dangerous he has weapons of mass destruction that he's
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used in the past Tucker replied quote it seems to me that the case for taking out Saddam
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Hussein is pretty straightforward he has as Mr. Pearl said weapons of mass destruction
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we know he would like to use them against us why wait until he does consider it this
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way if you had a neighbor who was heavily armed a gun nut and he was making threats
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against you and you called the police and said my heavily armed neighbor is making threats
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against me they wouldn't say well he's popular with the other neighbors we're gonna leave
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him there no they would arrest him immediately they would take preemptive action why shouldn't
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we do the same with Saddam.
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The other guest on the show was suggesting that we take a more cautious approach to which
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Pearl said quote hearts and minds and messages are fine I want to get Saddam Hussein before
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he gets us you know we're not going to protect this country by winning hearts and minds when
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there are people like Saddam Hussein Tucker's response quote get him before he gets us well
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expressed by Mr. Pearl I think it was put another way even more profoundly by Donald
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Rumsfeld earlier today later in the episode Tucker and his co-host Bill Press were arguing
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about preemptively killing terrorists press felt that even terrorists deserved a day in
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court which Tucker was super against discussing the prospect of trying bin Laden in court
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Tucker said quote at what cost he goes to trial the jurors are killed people are kidnapped
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more terrorist acts are committed in the name of freeing him he has a platform for spewing
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his garbage for months if not years it's ludicrous he doesn't deserve a protection he doesn't
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deserve a jury trial or protection of our Constitution.
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Press replied quote you know what the cost is the cost is we show the world who we are
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we show the world that we have a system of justice that depends on evidence.
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Tucker said quote that we're stupid and naive and soft-hearted and worthy of their attacks
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Tucker was compatriots with Richard Pearl and he argued for the war on terror with a passion
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that he would now probably call bloodlust and then when it didn't go well he changed
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his mind by 2004 he told the New York Observer quote I think it's a total nightmare and disaster
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and I'm ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it it's something
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I'll never do again never now I got convinced by a friend of mine who's smarter than I am
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and I shouldn't have done that so smart even in his backpedaling about his fervent cheerleading
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for war he has to insist that secretly deep down he was actually right about this whole
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thing he was only wrong because he listened to the smart friend of his see it turns out
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that not only was he right all along despite doing the wrong thing right embarrassingly
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in public and and and not just that but the person that he was looking to as somebody
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who is smarter is actually now dumber than him also so not only is he right all along
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and morally righteous despite having done all of the terrible things so good he's also
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coming out the smartest man in this whole thing it's so wild how great it is who would
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have thought it's crazy if you were opposed to a global war and supported aggressively
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in the media because some smart friend of yours told you to you're a fucking idiot you
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shouldn't be trusted if you're actually for the war and were for the war but realize that
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now it's unpopular to have had that position so you come put the story about how some smart
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friend convinced you to support it aggressively in the media you're a fucking coward and I
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don't care you're just a dumb shit yep also Alex employs former Blackwater contractors
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as a security now and he currently supports Erik Prince creating a private army for Trump
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yep these two dudes are so full of shit that it can't even stay connected to the reality
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that they've created for themselves to play in it's ridiculous yeah it's not fair no it's
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cheating it's frankly it's cheating oh Paul Wolf will use Blackwater I mean what it is
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it is so much like man it is sometimes whenever I listen to this this is like oh god if if
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we had just held no teams just to hold everybody accountable for Iraq just everybody I don't
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even care if they were involved everybody the whole place you name it where are we the
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veterans hall hold them accountable for Iraq shit where are we the bowling alley hold them
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accountable for Iraq I don't even know who you bowled too well on 9-11 exactly that is
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like that's they hated us for our free knock them down so they hate us for our picture
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specials exactly but it is just like this is what happens when you don't hold anybody
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accountable for it for this shit like he gets to get away with being on every side and still
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getting paid for it yeah and now we're here I think that there is a point to that and
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I think also there is a problem of accountability and that is that Tucker's not taking accountability
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for what he engaged in during the war right he is pretending that oh I've taken you know
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I hate I was wrong you know like that yeah it's nominally on the surface it presents
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as if it's a correction yeah but he's still like when he turned around he was blaming
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some smart friend for convincing him this is not accountability it's it's it's dodging
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that in the name of saving the brand yeah and that's just disgusting yeah so Tucker
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talks about how the media wanted to ask him about his about his tour sure and he made
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some jokes oh did he he's a jokester he's a funny guy so funny he's so funny I got actually
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a text today from Jeremy Barr at the Washington Post when he was in Politico before I read
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the Washington Post in high school you know every day 1985 I was reading the Washington
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Post and the Washington Post is just like so discredited and totally irrelevant owned
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by the richest man in the world Jeff Bezos and he texted me and he's like I've been following
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her tour I went to a couple stops do you have comment on your tour and I said yeah I mean
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my goal is world domination and stripping basic human rights from the trans community
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like that's why I'm here and I just said that to him I was like please quote me it's like
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I just don't care anyway you have the point is global fascist takeover and the elimination
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of the basic human rights of the trans community because they think that I don't care what
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they think I'm not trying to win them over and I guess my advice to politicians would
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be follow suit mock them it doesn't matter what you say they're gonna write the same
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piece no one's gonna read it the people who hate you already hate you the people are open
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minded would read the Washington Post on a dare because they know it's a joke and so
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don't give them respect hoist the middle finger at every possible opportunity or more effective
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just laugh at them yeah because the only relevance they have is the rebels we give them I don't
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say that from a power trip position that's why they want to censor us and put us in jail
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so why would you ever feed them what they want which is respect or deference or fear
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they want you to fear them hey Jeremy barred the Washington Post I don't care what you
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think I stopped responding five or six years ago because every time I did they just acted
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like they talked to me to build some fantasy well why not just say my goal by the way just
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for the record I don't like power I don't want power I don't like anyone or trust anyone
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who wants power so that's my view of power sure thing man so I get what Tucker's going
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for here but he sounds like a fucking dweeb the point is supposed to be that the media
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is hysterical that he wants to attack trans rights so it doesn't matter what he actually
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says to them that's what they're gonna say no matter what the problem is that Tucker
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actually does want to restrict trans rights and most of the stuff the media accuses him
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of supporting is stuff he very loudly and clearly supports when he tells a reporter
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that his tour is about restricting trans rights that's not a joke it's not it's not like all
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that the tour is about and he definitely wants to hurt other people too but telling this
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reporter that is not like it's not making a joke out of the media's hysterical picture
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of Tucker what it is is Tucker encouraging people to just speak freely stop hiding your
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bigotry because you're worried that the media will rightly characterize it it doesn't matter
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anymore because shame is dead Tucker is right but he's lying about his intentions because
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he wants to sound cool yeah I mean the joke is how toothless they are the joke is like
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yeah that's exactly what I am going to do write it you think that when you write it
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and you tell people you will be able to have an effect on me and you have failed in that
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and you refuse to acknowledge it so you're a waste you're useless you're a waste well
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which is right it's kind of the warped version of people being like yeah we worship the devil
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yeah whenever they were into metal yeah like they're into worshiping the devil if they
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were yeah that would be this but most of them weren't we they were just murder people well
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yeah but you do murder people yeah but we murder people that's not a joke but we murder
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people no aren't you people so extreme with your characterizations of us as murderers
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also we murder people no but I mean the thing that's funny is that the the joke is what
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are you gonna do about it nothing no yeah that's that is the subtext of Tucker's joke
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yeah is what if I just yelled the n-word on stage it gives a shit what are you gonna do
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about it nothing yeah loser so trans people apparently are possessed and they feel really
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bad for them the trans people it's like some weird thing they just made up like the amount
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of time I spend during the average day worrying about the trans community you know I feel
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sorry for those people what they're doing is not making their victims of the cold they
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are they're possessed let me say one last thing if you don't mind the police which is
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so we're doing this event in you know the biggest stadium in this part of Pennsylvania
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tonight with Alex Jones on the bill and I will say you know we had a little trouble
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finding a venue because we were like gosh Jones he's so scary can't imagine why they
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had a difficult time finding a venue these shitheads wild so the Santander arena is where
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this took place and it's the 32nd largest arena in Pennsylvania okay it's not the largest
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in the area like Allentown is about 40 minutes away and they have the PPL Center that seats
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about 3,000 more people some of those bigger stadiums that you know the 31 bigger ones
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are sports exclusive venues so you can't really include those in this tally but Santander
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arena and Reading Pennsylvania if that's your first choice and you're Tucker something is
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wrong the image is that he's much bigger than this and if you're having Alex Jones on why
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the fuck isn't it somewhere in Texas he has zero connection to Pennsylvania and it really
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screams of this is the only place that said yes yeah all of that is fine I get it they're
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oppressed and times are hard for people who yell about how trans people are possessed
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I think Santander arena is a fine venue but the problem is that they definitely didn't
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sell it out if you're gonna do a show at a 7,000 seat arena in a B slash C market when
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you're Tucker Carlson and your guest is Alex Jones you better sell that thing out we couldn't
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fill an arena if our lives depended on it but for Tucker it's embarrassing like it was
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it was notable I think if our lives depended on it we could fill her an arena but only
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under those circumstances at great expense to ourselves because we'd have to wrangle
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people to come in for free wrong if we are under threat of murder we have a show but
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if it doesn't sell out by the beginning of it our heads will be cut off that was a show
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that that was kind of the premise of a show I did when I first moved to Chicago I got
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a bar to agree to let me do a show sure and they said that you can do it if you bring
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in a thousand dollars in bar sales the first night oh and so I called it the thousand dollar
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company nice nice how did it go did not hit that mark nope but we did get a couple hundred
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dollars in bar sales damn and so when I talked to the bar owner afterwards yeah or like the
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next day I was like hey did we make the mark are we gonna be able to do a second one yeah
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he pretended he had no idea what I was talking never heard of you before I've never met you
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kid really just tried to put it out of here no he was fine with us doing more he pretended
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that he never said the thousand dollar thing that's smart it's really just trying to light
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a fire under that's smart alright motivations motivation I like it that showed it not work
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out hmm so they didn't sell out sure but Tucker says that they did you know hello trouble
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finding if any of this was so scary sold it out like immediately and I don't think that
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anybody tonight and at that event will think Alex Jones is crazy but no Alex Jones is like
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way ahead of his time there's not anything I'm just guessing that you're gonna say tonight
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that is particularly radical or far off the mark or not sort of obvious at this point
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you were way ahead of your time decades ahead of your time I think you deserve credit for
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that just on fairness grounds and I am determined that you get it fairness ground feel that
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yeah he feels bad that Alex hasn't been given a fair shake fairness grounds are you know
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it's no I get it yeah yeah what a big man no fairness ground so Tucker is absolutely
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lying about selling out the show let alone selling it out immediately I checked the site
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the night before the show and there's still hundreds of seats available and it's not resale
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tickets either these were first time purchase through though yeah they're probably 700 or
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so empty seats which isn't awful but that's like 10% of the venue as for whether or not
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anyone walked away from the event thinking Alex said some crazy stuff that's anyone's
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guess when I got back to my hotel I did overhear three people talking next to the elevators
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and I didn't eavesdrop on them long but what I heard was one of them saying they had no
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idea what Alex was talking about and they kind of just have to convince yourself to
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believe him because he has so much deep information in his head that it's driven him to the point
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where he sounds crazy I suspect there were a fair amount of people rationalizing his
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performance that way but that was that was the only review that I got from a random person
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I like that I like that I give in give in yeah subsume yourself yeah would sound crazy
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totally all right sure I suppose abolish all responsibility for everyone yeah said too
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many things for me to fact-check so I'm just gonna be like hmm I do a good lie though it's
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a good lie if you're Tucker because that is the thing that the WaPo people will do like
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for Tucker is you just say we sold it out immediately because it sounds like maybe he
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could it sounds like maybe it'd be reasonable for you to so that's one of those things where
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it's like you can't fact-check 100% of everything so then the writer at the WaPo will be like
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oh cut this corner and he'll just write sold it out immediately and that's a good perception
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to spread and I don't want to be a dick about this like sure there were a lot of people
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there you know I'm not trying to shit on it on that front sure and I think that it's entirely
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possible that Tucker would have no idea what the ticket sales were entirely here someone
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could have told him that they sold out or whatever like some aid might have told him
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that so I don't know I don't know if he's intentionally lying or if it's just a lie
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based on him not having the information yeah that's convenient and it doesn't matter to
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him what is it what does it matter that what matters is the perception that people think
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he sells it out right I don't think any of his shows have sold out yeah it doesn't matter
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if he makes that but like when we sell a show out it's like that's a job we also will choose
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a venue that's within our range that's really true so anyway I mentioned earlier that Tucker
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is not political he's ideological he's ideological this is where that comes up yeah what do you
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think will happen this is a big question so I don't really have time give give give a
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silly life for Trump I mean I don't know I you know I have a lot of theories about that
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usually my again my political predictions are wrong because I don't my brain is not
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very political and ideological so I usually get it wrong I just keep going back to what
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I believe and that is that I have two duties that we all have two duties and the first
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is to fight as hard as we can non-violently for what we think is true tell the truth inspire
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others to tell the truth be brave okay that's our first duty and our second duty is to be
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hopeful faith hope and love like we're required to be hopeful and they want to make us despondent
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they want to humiliate us and make us feel hopeless that's why they put like a retard
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in as the president's spokeswoman you know so we can look at her and be like oh this
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country sucks it's not even worth defending Katrina Trump here like if she's the spokesman
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clearly none of this is worth it by the way I gotta say this I know you know this yeah
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because he's well read and most of you are too but I'm gonna dig it up I remember Bloomberg
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article 15 years ago there's been some others where I think that headline you can probably
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fool us out but I feel like in the web not taking a news search um Davos meets and says
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technocrats should run countries not presence prime minister something like that and in
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the article they say we are discrediting nation states with our agenda and our control and
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then it's going to demonize the nation state without all falls we'll get full control so
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they're literally running our countries and knowing we're going to blame our governments
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that basically cultural civil wars and then they come in and pick up the pieces of key
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string and everything that's well it's so obvious I walk down the street of the city
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or at least a really pretty little city totally defiled and degraded by its leaders garbage
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all over the street this is all blowhard nonsense from Tucker that sounds good but doesn't actually
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translate to any real duties if he had a duty to tell the truth he would have a duty to
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learn more about the people he's promoting as great leaders and truth tellers and he
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would have an obligation to never speak to Alex again if he had a duty to the truth he
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would watch a little more of Alex's show to determine whether he's actually a prophet
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or if his team is just pretty good at selectively editing the thousands of hours he rambles
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on air I have no idea exactly what article Alex is talking about here in Bloomberg but
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I'm guessing it's an opinion piece probably about how technocrat style leaders were appointed
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in Italy and Greece in 2011 as the countries tried to deal with the fallout of the financial
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crisis of 2008-2009 I think it's probably this there were articles in Time magazine
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with headlines like quote who what why what can technocrats achieve that politicians can't
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these op-eds were exploring the pros and cons of a more technocratic leadership as compared
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to politicians sure most of the articles I can find reach the conclusion that it's a
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mixed bag who would have guessed yeah so Alex says this article from Bloomberg is 15 years
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ago so I don't know exactly what he's talking about but in 2017 they published an article
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titled quote why some nations are warming to technocracy which covered a new survey
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from the Pew Research Center and discussed its findings that headline could lead someone
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to think that they're somewhat warm or neutral about technocrats so you could you could get
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the idea that that reflects the editorial tone at Bloomberg but then in 2018 they published
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a piece titled quote we need to stop giving technocrats so much power which is an article
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about recent comments made by a former Bank of England official named Paul Tucker it was
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critical of technocratic leadership and argued in favor of more regulation so maybe these
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publications are just posting things that if you take the headline out of you can't
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characterize yeah yeah maybe Alex is an idiot that could be yeah so anyway you got duties
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I so here's what I was thinking while Tucker was talking I respect duties hmm everybody
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has duty to walk past the duty-free shop everybody yeah yeah no no I understand that I was thinking
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about how like rich sons during the like you know 14 to 1700s would often find themselves
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captaining a boat you know they would if you were rich then you'd get a boat and the boat
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would be how you got richer you know you've shipped places and you did stuff makes sense
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right and then all the stories written about mutinies were always like ah the mutineers
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were so mean to the captain who is such a good guy super cool and I was like nobody
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who mutinied could read or write so it's odd that all these stories are from a very anti-mutineer
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perspective mm-hmm almost as though they were written by rich sons a lot of them and really
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I just think Tucker would be thrown off of one of those boats is what I'm trying to say
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is that if Tucker was in the 1500s he would be in the ocean he gives me that shitty laugh
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one time oh you're in the ocean son you're going you're getting wet buddy mutiny my man
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it makes me think so when I looked at myself in the mirror with this handlebar mustache
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yeah the first thing that came to mind was Deidrick Bader in office space yeah I remember
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yeah and I was like yeah the Tucker on that boat would be like I reckon you get your ass
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kicked you ask somebody to have a case of the Mondays yep you bet you're going overboard
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wrong spot to do this do you have a duty to fight as hard as you can and have some hope
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yeah and then I guess also a duty to be cheerful which is sure as you whistle while you work
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or something like that your duty is to be hopeless your duty it's not just like some
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side benefit of good news it's like you're required to wake up every morning and determined
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to be hopeful and cheerful because you know that it how it ends which is in a great way
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so I'm not gonna be deterred from hope no matter what they do no matter how many retards
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they put in as the politicians spokesman number how much garbage they lie to accumulate on
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the street slurs are notification the CIA 50 60 70s 80s wasn't classified in the 90s
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look this up look up CIA funded ugly arts CIA funded ugly architecture and it's actually
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in plans to have garbage and fills and not enforce you know stuff on low-level criminals
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to create ugliness and then that debilitates the mind and then you accept higher forms
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of tyranny same thing in Europe this is a formula of course it's a formula but they're
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not gonna break my spirit I don't care what they do to me what a hero so Alex is making
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all this up but it's based on a real thing where the CIA promoted abstract expressionist
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painting in the United States as part of the Cold War they believe that homegrown artistic
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movements were powerful propaganda tool essentially making the argument that the Soviet Union
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was stagnant it was uncreative and the system wasn't artistically alive we've talked about
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this in greater depth in the past but essentially there was an office called the International
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Organizations Division that sponsored American art like some jazz artists and the Boston
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Symphony Orchestra they also promoted abstract expressionism which Alex has decided to mean
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that they wanted to force ugly art on the public to make them spiritually weak it's
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all very stupid but it's based on a twisting of a real fairly strange thing that actually
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happened yeah so like if you just kind of do a surface level Google on this you'll probably
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be like oh my god Alex is right it's very dumb I like the idea Tucker should know better
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his dad worked for Voice of America I like the idea of the of the the intelligence services
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having a real clear understanding of the art world and appreciation therein you know like
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aha well we got it we can't just tell people what's good looking art and what's bad looking
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art so we got to go to Terry over here the CIA's resident art specialist he's like oh
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no no no no no no get that motherfucker man go out of here well I don't need any of this
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shit I was reading an article about this and it did make the point that at the time the
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people who would have been in these offices in the CIA were largely rich people's kids
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who went to like Ivy League schools people who get tossed off of a boat yeah well idle
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idle rich types who are the people who like care a ton about art yeah a lot of this just
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insane so like maybe they did have an over over representation of people who had strong
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opinions would not surprise me it really would not surprise me yeah yep so anyway Tucker
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knows better than all this he's just letting Alex run but he does say something that I
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thought was was pretty pretty powerful okay and that is that he's not gonna let his emotions
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be controlled by the media there's just tiny little reptiles like I just have no respect
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whatsoever for the jury Jeremy Barr the Washington Post and all this stuff I don't have any respect
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for that and so I'm not gonna control my emotions I am hopeful I have hope in greater things
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I don't care how badly you degrade the country you're not gonna turn me in to some hopeless
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robot period Tucker Carlson.com are you gonna add more dicks I know most of them are selling
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out people love it we're done I don't we've got 16 we've done 11 you're 12 you finish
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out the dozen and we're really grateful that you're doing it thank you but the future someday
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if we save the country you're gonna have to do a victory turn oh yeah I'm going around
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the world after this all right all right folks Tucker Carlson.com we'll see you at Infowars.com
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real Alex Jones there's a certain irony that Alex is directing people to Infowars and his
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Twitter well there's a decent chance he won't own those things in the near future I don't
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know what's gonna happen with the whole liquidation auction that has been going on but there's
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a non-zero chance that he loses both of those things that he's plugging it's funny that
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Tucker says that he's not gonna let folks from the Washington Post control his emotions
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because I think that he's super emotionally affected by the fact that the mainstream doesn't
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respect him and he's had to chase down this new audience of folks like Alex there are
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few media figures that I see that seem more emotionally driven than Tucker himself yeah
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he is deeply emotional he's a whiny little baby yes yeah and again these shows didn't
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sell out the one with JD Vance the GOP nominee for vice president didn't even sell out it's
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easy to get that impression if you go to Tucker's website because once a show is over the website
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replaces the buy ticket button with one that says sold out but I don't know if any of these
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actually sold out we're recording this on the 26th and tonight was supposed to be a
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show in Greenville South Carolina and it had to be canceled because Hurricane Helen Marjorie
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Taylor Greene was supposed to be on tonight right canceled right the last show of the
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tour is Saturday in Jacksonville with Donald Trump Jr. and there's still a ton of tickets
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available for that this whole act that Alex and Tucker are doing doesn't work unless they
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pretend everything is sold out which is why it's funny if they would just place might
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slightly smaller venues they could easily sell them out but their egos don't allow that
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so they swing for the fences and then leave a bunch of seats empty instead of accepting
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reality they march forward pretending they're at capacity and turning away thousands of
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people at the door because they're just that popular it's very funny yeah yeah the the
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you know the Black Keys had the had the gumption to just cancel the tour and be like you know
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what we really fucking miscalculated on this one our bad our bad our bad we'll we'll you
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know what we'll redo this we'll kind of regroup there's a dignity in that then we'll go forward
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yeah we are not going to play to half empty arenas because that's somehow sadder than
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playing to five people in a fucking birthday party and I don't know about the other dates
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on this tour sure but that was not the case with this sure it was not so empty that you
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felt the emptiness sure or that like there was a reverb effect right right bouncing off
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walls are dark but it was not full yeah definitely so this is the end of the interview that they
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did in their hotel right and so this is where we'll sort of dive into the experience sure
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of this whole thing right so I went to Allentown or I flew into Allentown yeah and then got
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to the show and yeah I don't know man how long how long did you have to say so you texted
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me around like five something like that saying we were in line you in front of the show Amanda
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I assume yeah how long were you in line for to get in well it was interesting because
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the line was pretty long it was like you had to walk quite a ways to get to the end of
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the line sure but once the doors opened it was moving pretty smoothly like it wasn't
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that terrible it looked awful it looked awful yes okay it looked disorganized and like people
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were just all over the place sure the line was had a chaoticness to it sure but it did
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end up being managed kind of okay I was overhearing conversations while I was in the line and
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some of them were pretty scary okay kind of involved how demons were coming after the
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children well there were people that were trying to register people to vote in the line
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but I didn't see anybody take them up on it so like it was scary kind of the idea that
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this is a voting drive right but then no one was signing up right that I saw but one lady
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did thank them for doing it sure that was fun yeah it felt insane but normal you know
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you were just didn't you were in crazy town and it turns out crazy
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town is fine it's just that though the walls are all pink and the sky is made of jelly
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beans it's fine there were tons of info war shirts yeah that is definitely true yeah well
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I mean if there were ever going to be info war shirts anywhere in Pennsylvania that would
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be the place it was shocking yeah um I sometimes because I listen to his show lose sight of
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the fact that people like him right right right right I kind of was sitting there like
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this many fucking info war shirts and these people probably don't live in Reading yeah
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you know so like if Alex did end up in an airport I could see three people hugging him
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yeah you know like that kind of story that he tells sure I don't believe in the there's
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a person who's like insulting him and then starts crying because everyone loves him so
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much right that part of the story is bullshit right right right but I could see Alex getting
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mobbed sure by the the by folks yeah because nobody's from there yeah nobody's going back
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home they're going to where they were when they got here yeah few people yeah yeah yeah
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I could see him ending up running into a bunch of fans at a hotel or something because it's
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Reading right also I think he stayed in Lancaster so like he probably drove out of town right
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because he doesn't want to see any of those people secret location right so we get in
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to the venue it's fine you know like one of the things I noticed was there's a lot of
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concessions which sure it was very exciting for sure as soon as I got in there and I was
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like this is boring I was like I'm gonna eat so much shit yeah yeah so I ended up getting
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a big pretzel and then I accidentally knocked over my diet coke and I felt really bad so
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that stopped me from getting more food I you know what this is something that concerns
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me this is something that concerns me I had not really and genuinely considered the idea
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of like going to a fucking what would it be a Lindbergh rally in like 1931 and them selling
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fucking pretzels well it's being held at like a minor league hockey stadium there's a nacho
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staff halfway through they're giving away tickets for the next game no it's all there
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it all makes sense but then you've got it wrapped around like and then we got to get
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rid of it you know and you're like wait what back in the day I would have been so excited
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by how many bars there were so you could have gotten so many beers all over the place but
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instead I was like fucking pretzel very exciting I was very sad when Amanda went to go get
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some funnel cake sure came back with the news that there were no funnel cakes no yeah that
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was a real blow is that specific to this show or the venue entirely they might have run
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out I didn't I didn't probe for details run it out of funnel cake batter that was where
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the night took a turn this is how it is in reading yeah terrible so we're in there and
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um I one of the things that I noticed was you know the they talk a lot about how they're
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independent and like you know these corporate sponsors sure but they did right they were
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just weird there was like Moms for America as a sponsor of the tour right parlor social
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media site right there was a Nyquil knockoff sure that had a histamine in it drowsy hey
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make America sleep great again I wish that we could just sell straight out purple drink
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just fucking let's go I mean it might as well be the quill yeah yeah let's just do it there's
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a guy named Joe for Texas from Texas Joe from Texas I assume he's running for office or
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is he just Joe from Texas he might be you know what I realized that I meant to look
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into who he was yeah and I don't care you can't he's just Joe from Texas he could be
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any number of Joes from Texas what if it is all of the Joes of Texas together yeah saying
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one thing he had a crazy bushy gray mustache and a cowboy hat and of course he did he was
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a hit also Tucker played a commercial promoting his new nicotine pouch brand what yeah he
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has a nicotine pouch wait wait what yeah he has a nicotine pouch brand it's called Alp
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oh my god and apparently it's the manly alternative to the cuck brand he used to promote cuck
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called Zin oh my god they refused to partner with him so he threw a fit and pretended that
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they supported the Harris campaign even though the company that runs Zin which is a Swedish
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match North America which is a subsidiary of Philip Morris International gave more to
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federal GOP candidates at a rate of 70 to 30 percent he's just pretending to be mad
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it's the cigarette murdering company of our entire lives they're on the side if anybody
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worshipped death it is literally Philip Morris yeah they snubbed Tucker so he decided they
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were too weak for him he said quote I'm embarrassed to say it but it's made by a huge company
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huge donors to Kamala Harris I'm not gonna use that brand anymore I mean I think it's
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fine for like your girlfriend or whatever but I don't think men should use that brand
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it's that easy it's that easy it's that easy baby there's no evidence that the company
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is a huge Harris donor but that was something that Tucker smeared them with to his audience
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in hope of stealing away part of the market for his own brand he's a total loser and this
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whole thing is impaired embarrassingly transparent and he's selling nicotine pouches so cool
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but and and like he played a commercial for it and I get that there's supposed to be some
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kind of humor in being like this is what men do sure but it wasn't funny the audience didn't
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laugh at it right it just it felt like a parody that is also serious yeah like he meant it
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right you know well this is sincere marketing it's not like no but this one makes sense
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it's not a parody of Budweiser commercials that are like you know full of see but this
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one makes sense because this is the this is where this brain exists right now it is aware
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enough to know that that should be ironically enjoyed the idea of requiring a product to
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reinforce your manliness right it is not however ironic to do so for this brain so the brain
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is trapped in a space of like well obviously it's funny that we're talking about how it's
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men that do this and you're weak if you do if you get zen you're a woman but also I will
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only buy products that are branded format I will do both I will know that it's stupid
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and I will still buy it you have and are creating the anxiety around masculinity in order to
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sell this product yep but you're also trying to make a joke out of that sort of but I don't
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think you are yep it's very strange nope and I just think it's weird that I understand
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that Tucker is a well-known nicotine user like he's talked about that a ton he's promoted
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zen a ton sure sure sure sure just not for money right and when he tried to get money
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from them right he said no and he's like I'll do my own thing but it is still just weird
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that he has like a sort of tobacco replacement brand I mean yeah like it's it doesn't feel
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right for him he should be more moral than this based on something the way he pretends
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to act you I mean or or the Marlboro man like one or the other you can't go you can't go
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like I'm a good person and also no I sell this product that's addictive and I'm using
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fears about masculinity in order to sell it to children no be the thing that gives people
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those fears about masculine the Marlboro man was so goddamn masculine and you felt emasculated
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when you were standing next to him simple Tucker can't do that shit what about Joe Camel
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he made me feel emasculated but more am I turned on by camels kind of way he was pretty
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smooth yep he was so like I mentioned before the crowd was large but it wasn't full like
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you could look around the arena and see pockets of empty areas but it still felt like there
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was a lot of people there and the energy was very weird it was very very weird were people
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I don't know what would I say like if I'm if I'm going to see a Cubs game or if I like
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I've been to the United Center to see shows bands you know the whole thing I've been to
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areas I'm not nine years old I've been to a Rita's there has always been a sense of
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palpable excitement in anticipation for when the performance is going to begin yeah what
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was that like for this because it's not it doesn't feel like it would be something that
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you're like oh I'm looking forward to hearing about these people talk about demons are going
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to kill me uh-huh right well it was confusing and I had to sit down and really write out
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some thoughts the next morning because I was very confused at what I had experienced okay
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and part of the reason is because they're structural problems sure sure so there was
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an opening act who's supposed to be a warm-up comic right and then there was like half an
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hour of stump speeches from his sponsors who so the warm-up act was warming up for the
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people that work to do the sponsor speeches right and then Tucker came out one of his
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sponsors introduced him both and so structurally there was it was very weird yeah and I couldn't
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figure out like how this is supposed to work the energy in the crowd was you know when
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you do stand-up and no one's a star sure it really is important that the host bring it
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up get everyone on the same page and then bring people around turn them into a crowd
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yeah yeah if you have somebody who's a star on the show it really doesn't matter they're
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there to see that person they're already a crowd right yeah you can bomb as the host
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the opening act can bomb and then they'll go nuts for the headliner because they've
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seen them on TV that's what they're for that's what this was yeah okay and that energy was
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very strange hmm with anger right right because that's what it is not there to like I can't
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imagine being there thinking oh well we're here to have a good time tonight right well
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there's some people who are pretty drunk right but even then like isn't that like I'm drinking
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to cope with how demons are gonna rape my face I guess I guess yeah like what are we
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doing what are you doing going to this thing I mean I was there and I don't know right
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that's I was very confused by it yeah everyone seemed to be like that's what I keep saying
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it's like it's insane but normal right like that this is like someone is coming out and
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being like they want to murder your family right and then they're going whoo right and
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I don't get it it doesn't seem like fun entertainment yeah and then spoiler alert in terms of act
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Alex's entire presentation and appearance if you like Alex he didn't say anything you've
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never heard before right it's all just playing the hits right and all this it's a very boring
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dumb appearance by him yeah and if you don't like him I think you'd be confused by the
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things that he's saying right because he won't take a fucking breath right and is saying
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all kinds of nonsense stuff right right in terms of entertainment I don't get how it
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would have been a pleasant experience but it clearly was for some people yeah because
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if you're not if you're unfamiliar with Alex straight no chaser uh then no chase or guys
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nice he was there I saw him oh yeah yeah did he wave no I bet if anybody would have recognized
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you out of it chase it I bet he would have smiled and waved he followed Alex out onto
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stage yeah to get like footage of the giant crowd right like from behind Alex sure like
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as he could make a sizzle doing that doing the thing uh buddy cameraman action chase
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I yeah yeah because because if you because you're about 45 minutes behind any Alex conversation
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if you're if you're not at all caught up right so wherever he's talking if you don't know
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the first 45 minutes it's pure chaos yeah it's just chaos I think so yeah and and because
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I'm me there were like at least five points where I knew exactly what he was about to
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say yeah and at one point I just was kind of bored and so I whispered to Amanda like
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he's about to talk about Chuck Schumer and the hamburgers and how they were raw meat
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and then he did of course he did like this is so predictable it's like clockwork so boring
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oh my god oh god guess what this is what fish is about to play farmhouse exactly I mean
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here we go and there it is it's one million percent how that felt and it felt dirty oh
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that's weird so let's talk about this lineup okay at 7 30 the show begins and there's this
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guy named Jason Hewlett who was the opening warm-up comic okay he was doing musical impressions
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for 20 minutes it was rough wow yes wow so one of the things that he did was he's saying
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journey he's saying open arms sure come to you with open arms but he was doing it with
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like looking like a zombie kind of with his arms out because he was doing broken arms
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I come to you with broken arms it was a bit it's good bit he did a impression of the REO
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speed wagon sure because they they hold their r's really long so this feeling anymore that
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that kind of so is this is this what when does musical comedy begin and being a bad
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cover band end here's the problem yeah his impressions were fine okay he'd done some
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work on them sure so I mean they didn't sound terrible like I think he was a competent hand
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at that right there's no bits nothing was funny all right there was a point where I
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was worried that I'd dosed myself sure and that was when well there are two moments in
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his act that I thought I was hallucinating one of them was that's gonna be on the that's
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the bumper right there yeah I thought I was hallucinating about how he could never figure
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out what Axl Rose's voice sounded like okay but then he realized that it was Marge Simpson
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and so he starts singing welcome to the jungle right in a serviceable Axl Rose impression
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well that's the problem yeah he's doing an Axl Rose impression right and then switches
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to Marge Simpson impression they're very different yes they are very different and in performing
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them he's proven that they don't sound similar yeah that is an interesting thing to do and
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so I was sitting there I was like you have just disproven the premise of your bit that's
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fascinating yeah has anybody told him that do you think I don't know but they were fine
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impressions oh that's the problem is like yeah no it's fine I mean comedy's hard I can't
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imagine any gig I would want less but if I was broke enough would take faster than this
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terrible gig right yeah like I don't want to do this this sounds awful I'm gonna bomb
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yeah you're paying how much this is going to be an experience that I can tell people
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for the rest of my life I was there and I did weird shit yeah I remember back in the
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day like if you're doing stand-up and you visit New York or something sure you'll be
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kind of lucky if you can get up at a club doing a check set yeah where they drop the
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check and no one's listening to you they're all filling out their credit card slips yeah
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and stuff and it's a thankless awful thing but you'll get a few bucks yep and you'll
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get to perform at this club that's kind of what he's doing he gets to perform in an arena
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but like people are filtering in and that most of them are confused or they're like
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I grew up on REO Speedwagon and that's the recognition that they enjoy so the second
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time I was hallucinating yeah he does a bit about how I don't exactly remember how this
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worked but he was something along the lines of how they would do autotune like how would
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Cher do it if there was no electricity or something like that okay and so he's like
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doing uh like blocking right right right he makes his voice do the whoa yeah yeah that
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yeah by putting his hand in front of his face sure sure sure Amanda posted a video of this
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because it was just like I don't know what the fuck is going on uh I feel I felt like
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I was in another place there's no joke here he's kind of making this sound similar to
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the effect of auto tuning sure oh a lot of work for very little reward this is I but
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what if like three years from now it's like it comes out the documentary Marina Abramovich
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documentary comes out and it's like oh he's been doing this kind of shit at weird right-wing
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rallies for the past three years stare directly in my eyes that'd be an amazing documentary
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uh sure I'd watch it yeah I'd watch that um so then he just straight up sang Lee Greenwood
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uh that's always a smart move I'm proud to be an American that's a smart there's no parody
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that's literally how you it closes center you're so terrible let's hey everybody let's
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give it up for the troops if it was a parody of what he was doing that's how it would end
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yeah it would have to yeah and then he did a bunch of funny faces oh boy like his uh
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lip going up yeah just all right and I mean they were good funny faces
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that must have been wild that must have been wild seeing Jim Carrey on tv for the first
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time and being like look at that face yeah and that being the end of it yeah amazing
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it was like that yeah um it's it's just you know I I think we've talked about this a little
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bit about magic sure kind of like in order to do magic you have to really put in the
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time yep to do it and there's something kind of respect about the effort that goes into
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that yes this guy had some decent impressions that sounded like a variety of different singers
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true the face movements that he was making were pretty precise and they involved different
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muscles of the face moving that would take practice right and so I felt really bad because
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it's not funny in the least there's no bits the show sucks it's awful it's confusing that
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it's before this Tucker Carlson show but you got to respect the craft a little bit he's
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trying I can't think of anything more insulting to me personally that the idea of somebody
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being like I have to compliment the mechanics of what you are doing he's put in some hours
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he's put in some work on this stuff and that I tip my head yeah no I mean there's there's
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something to be said about that yeah yeah so I thought for sure he was gonna do this
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warm-up act and then you know you're gonna bring on Tucker straight in because that's
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how most shows generally work but then the Moms for America person came out and gave
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a speech right and everyone was kind of confused right I think they were pretty confused but
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enjoyed her enough and then Joe from Texas came out and he gave a speech yeah and this
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dude was it was awesome he was awesome I don't know what he was talking about sure but he
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spoke like Sam Elliott there was a drawl to him a folksiness yeah he was talking about
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how like I I'm gonna paraphrase this story sure one day when he was a kid he had a bike
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and he loved this bike I love this story it represented freedom to him yes he could ride
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and feel the wind in his hair right he was I follow along some kid steals his bike motherfucker
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right yeah stole his freedom but yes right I'm now furious yeah so he kicks the shit
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out of that kid he gets into a fight with this kid and I think he was saying he seriously
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hurt this kid boy that's the wrong lesson to teach yeah okay and so his mom finds out
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yeah and she's like you got to tell your dad what you did okay you beat the shit out of
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this kid all right this story is gone a lot yeah I think his dad is an alcoholic or something
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to beat him sure and so he's like I'm gonna get beat for this sure he's gonna kick the
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shit out of me because I beat up this kid and put him in the hospital right so he goes
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and he tells his dad what he did yeah and his dad says to him son did you like that
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bike and he's like yes sir I did and so his dad's like you did the right thing oh my god
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I took your freedom and no one could take your freedom you did the right thing well
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so the end of the story was that he didn't get beat up by his dad right and the place
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went nuts like they really loved the end of this story yeah and I was listening to it
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like this guy is a charm to him I don't know what the fuck he's doing here I don't know
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what he's promoting sure I've only three quarters paying attention about this story of violence
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yeah yeah huh like you've been a high point of the night you know it's it's like cuz that's
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like an echo of the of the the more common story of the standing up to bullies you fight
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back and then they're like oh you shouldn't fight back and then your dad is like you stand
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up to bullies even if that meant you know that that's a fairly common story this one
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it does feel like there should have been some acknowledgement of like this was the wrong
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move and the tension of the story is whether or not his dad's gonna beat him up for beating
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up this other kid yeah and I honestly like I was I was reflecting on it after the fact
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sure and I realized that until the end of the story I didn't know what ending the audience
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would like interesting they cheered for him not not getting it by his dad I think they
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would have cheered for a beating I think so too I think they would have also this is what
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this is what's wrong with being from where we're from we're like ah those people would
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have been happy with a beating or no beating I got a whooping but I got my freedom back
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exactly yeah that would have been also yes you accepted the consequences but you got
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your freedom back by the way yeah with something anyway totally he was confusing that's wild
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and then the antihistamine drink people came out sure it's called Sam brosa Sam brosa Sam
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brosa Sam brosa yeah the drink of the gods they tried to sell their product to help you
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sleep sure they had this great line that was like let tucker wake you up and let us put
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you to sleep or something like that you guys are assholes that is amazing that should that's
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yeah but that's also the most evil thing anybody could ever possibly say that's that's technocratic
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nightmare shit it's funny for me sitting there though because I can see the crass yeah marketing
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that's going on yeah and how abusive it is do they got an emcee or is this this shotgun
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style really out of control you don't have your own like traveling house emcee or something
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nope the singer guy came out did his time then the lady from moms for America came out
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and then Joe John Joe from Texas can't remember his name the sleep drink boy I just they just
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don't care about putting on a good show you know it was all brokered time yeah it's basically
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the arrangement is obviously that they give Tucker a bunch of money so he wrangles a crowd
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for them to pitch their shit to yeah it's a nakedly transparent sales event with a captive
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audience like when people were filtering in and getting to their seats you have the song
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comic warming people up getting them excited and then the payoff of that once they're seated
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is all these ads that go on for like half an hour 40 minutes and then Tucker comes out
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man and place went nuts for Tucker obviously I mean we're not listen we don't have any
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corporate sponsors we're not like that we don't have corporates giant corporations they
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don't care about you even if they did sponsor us it's but it's what one millionth of their
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budget these people some that we bring out here these people want to predate on you to
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your face right they want to look you in the eyes as they steal from you sambrosa damn
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it Joe with a mustache sambrosa know what he was selling he's just being Joe yeah just
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Joe from Texas eccentric millionaire who just wants to promote himself and tell stories
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that are kind of folksy kind of like it I think that would be great yeah that's Jimmy
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James style that is Jimmy James style right there absolutely and because I wasn't paying
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enough attention while he was on I might have been going to get a pretzel no I did that
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when Jack was on stage smart I wasn't paying enough attention to know what he was selling
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right so don't worry about it who cares they go crazy for Tucker coming out they do salespeople
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do their pitch and then they get to introduce okay all right brought him on stage right
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which probably meant they paid a little more I would have I would assume so yeah otherwise
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they would have had to like fight it out with the other corporate sponsors yeah that'd be
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no fun so Tucker comes out and here you ready to jump into the night's entertainment all
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right
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I love this thank you I am legitimately glad to be here thank you well it is a great country
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and thank you for saying that that has been this is our 12th city and out of 16 and one
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of the things that I wanted I love you too thank you I wanted you know if you spend your
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life experiencing the United States to your phone which I think all of us do you really
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lose track of what it's actually like and you do and I do think that part of the lie
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part of the plan for the rest of us is to convince us that our country sucks and that's
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not true at all and that's why it's been such a blessing to go coast to cry 830 this morning
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I was on the Conestoga River in your state beautiful you could have been anywhere Montana
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New Zealand it was incredible and I ran into people in the park where I was looming not
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in a threatening way but you know wandering around one of your parks and and they said
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to me oh my gosh we just saw Alex Jones wandering in the park actually and they weren't afraid
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oh they weren't afraid oh the right wing figures are apparently the cryptids of that
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weekend in Pennsylvania just looming around in the park that makes sense yeah that makes
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sense so yeah I think that there's a you know there's a nice USA chant sure I think that
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if you listen carefully you can hear my uncommittal clapping because I decided to be polite and
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and do a little bit of soft clapping all right because I wanted to fit in I shaved my chin
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so I was like let's just let's just commit to this yeah I get you not for me I still
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I can't stand up at a baseball game I had to like I felt like I had to do the standing
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ovations along with them because otherwise I was gonna be like I was gonna stick out
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I we I mean I will say it does get lonely when you're the only person sitting down in
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a 30,000 arena of people clapping for somebody who's a murderer at a war criminal or wasn't
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pledging allegiance to anybody sure I was just getting a better look yeah at the stage
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yeah that's how I told myself all right it went all right but yeah I I think that there
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were only two times that I almost audibly laughed okay there were I maybe there was
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one that I actually slipped and I might have laughed but it was mostly just kind of nodding
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I was like oh okay and then with I hate to say this okay because I do an Alex Jones podcast
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true Alex was so boring and the only thing that's interesting is Tucker's intro speech
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I would I would not have missed out on much if I had just left after Tucker's intro right
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which sucks yeah but I mean that's like it's it's almost I'm almost I wouldn't say I'm
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not glad I'm not glad and I it's but it's like it that's the purpose is not to put on
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a good show no the purpose is for this to be a thing that happened yeah and to launder
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Alex to a new audience the purpose is for nothing that's going on on the stage nothing
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it's for next week whenever it's like oh remember when Alex was in Pennsylvania he was so smart
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and he was so brilliant it doesn't matter what he said he just said all the normal stuff
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that he says in his catchphrases yeah and then people cheered and they felt good and
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everyone was excited yeah so I mean like honestly maybe if I'd never seen Alex talk before I'd
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be like you got to hear what this dude was saying maybe nonsense stuff yeah because it
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would be things I hadn't heard a hundred times before and we haven't talked about a hundred
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times on the podcast yeah so I think that maybe the newness of Tucker's brand of whatever
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he was dealing with was maybe more interesting yeah I can see that but yeah Alex was a big
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dud and it was really funny because the chair wasn't quite big enough and so his little
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feet were dangling and it's really funny to hear somebody yelling about shit just sitting
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down with their little feet dangling no god damn it that had to have been on purpose and
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then Jack Pessobic too like he came out and forgot to unbutton his suit jacket when he
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sat down so he looked like an idiot the whole fucking time with his suit like pulling apart
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and it was really yeah it was really bad man I can't dress myself and I know I don't do
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that shit good god yeah that's bad so Tucker has met a lot of cool people on this tour
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sure a lot of good people no angry people not at all not at all great people and that's
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kind of the point is that in 12 cities from east coast to west coast to the middle to
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back to the east coast I haven't met a single angry person I haven't met a single nasty
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person I haven't met anybody mistreating anybody else I met exactly the opposite I have met
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the warmest kindest most loving hilarious eccentric people I've ever met and those are
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the people I grew up with this is the country I remember and so no it's true though it actually
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is great and I've just been reminded of that so thank you and thank you for having me so
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gracious so I had a pretty similar experience on my whole trip sure I didn't really run
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into any particularly angry people but I did meet a bunch of people who are on the precipice
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of anger and I was keenly aware that if I didn't placate their needs to not be offended
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by wokeness they would turn angry really fast I nodded along with a cab driver heading to
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my my return trip to the airport as he lamented about how children's movies were pushing a
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gay agenda by including LGBTQ characters there were a couple of interactions I ended up in
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with other people around other culture war topics that felt the same it was incumbent
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upon me to moderate my response to their insane shit or else they would respond poorly it
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was very clear that that dynamic was in action yeah Tucker is insulated from a lot of this
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type of interaction because his insane wealth and celebrity allows that plus he's on the
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side that's one step away from screaming at you for being an agent of cancel culture most
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of the people who hate Tucker are just not going to engage with him or probably will
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never have an opportunity to I watched a little video of their meet and greet and it was just
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Tucker Alex and Jack Pessobic standing in front of a backdrop looking at a camera while
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a line of people came through and took pictures they barely even looked at the people as they
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were coming through and then they were whisked away really fast and you can hear Rob do muttering
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in the background this is what America's about wow I'm sure that Tucker is not lying about
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how nice everyone has been on his tour because honestly all of the people that I interacted
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with who had an insane and dangerous idea to share they were really nice too they were
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nice because I let them be nice and I exercised extreme caution and how I challenge their
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very fragile ideas Tucker doesn't challenge any of those ideas and the most hostile people
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he could run into so I'm sure it's a pretty nice trip that he's had but if I had wanted
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to I could have immediately just said no that's that's complete nonsense you have no idea
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what you you're talking about yeah and here's where this idea comes from Baba Baba it would
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have been the worst person they could have ended up in a conversation with yeah because
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I would have deconstructed exactly why this is wrong and all of this but I just chose
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to be like oh how about that you know and just let them talk sure and because of that
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we had nice interactions yeah because I was there yeah because I let them yep yeah that's
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generally how it goes yeah and that's a bizarre feeling that doesn't feel great well I mean
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on one level everyone you meet if you scratch them long enough and hard enough will reveal
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believing something that is absolutely insane sure you know like and it doesn't even need
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to be big you know that time that I told you that I thought that you couldn't refrigerate
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re refrigerate beer or something because some somebody told it that was just in my head
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yeah you know and if you scratch that it's gonna come out yeah the problem isn't that
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people do believe nonsense it's that some of that nonsense is terrifying and dangerous
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and then and it intersects with real world hurt and then it gets whipped up by people
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like Tucker who can stoke it without ever having to feel that same feeling of of hostage
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taking you know that aspect of like I know going into this interaction I am not allowed
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to be me I simply cannot do that I have to exist in your space period yeah and you know
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to the point to the extent that it's acceptable I'm just gonna ignore most of this insane
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shit you're saying or very softly push back on it in a playful way yeah for the sake of
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I don't know we're just sitting on a bench together man we're gonna we're gonna leave
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you're gonna go back to your life I'm gonna go back to mine what are we doing yeah and
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so I think there were two things that like that exist simultaneously that are just weird
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feelings and that's like well those were positive exchanges sure and the parts of those conversations
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that didn't didn't intersect with culture war bullshit and nonsense ideas that these
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people have were very pleasant talking about their families and like talking about various
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things that they're interested in sure totally fine and I could have exchange with someone
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who believes the polar opposite of what I believe and that's heartening yeah but it's
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disheartening that the only way we were able to achieve that was by me restraining some
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information that I have sure that would have been handled poorly I'm sure yeah I mean you
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know it's one of those things where their their anger is what's going to come out sooner
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or later and for Tucker he's trying to get them to spew it at anybody right let it fly
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for for and you know in these interactions you're just like well don't spew it at me
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there's no reason to spew your anger at me yeah right but that makes you feel like well
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I'm just letting the next person get that anger or something like that but it's like
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they it's the anger isn't the anger at the thing we're talking about it's there somewhere
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else and it needs to get out yeah and it's kind of like a I'm not playing I don't want
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to dance yeah yeah yeah I don't want to do this we're not yeah and that just feels weird
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because there is a sense that I got from each of these people that they wanted to dance
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yeah and I just didn't play along and I don't know I have a lot of thoughts that I'm still
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kicking around about like what does this mean how like what kind of lessons can you take
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from that and I'm not sure but it was weird I mean you know the thing that it's always
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struck me about groupings like that gatherings like that is like all of these people want
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to fight they are gathered in a place together almost with the intent to fight and it's it's
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like oh you guys could just fight each other just go well I think that's actually less
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my sense of it was less that they were getting all together to fight right what they were
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doing was getting all together to justify themselves sure and to to feel like there
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are many of us and we're good yeah that was that was more what the vibe was than fighting
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sure it's a lot of violent talk and a lot of that kind of shit but overwhelmingly it
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was more like you're the good ones well I mean if you're saying if you're saying the
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same thing as 6,000 other people even though you know what you're saying might in your
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otherwise daily life sound absolutely crazy to the 6,000 people that you're surrounded
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with makes you feel real normal now yeah it helps it makes sense yeah so Tucker has been
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in a good mood through most of this tour sure but today he got in a bad mood because he
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saw that picture of Josh Shapiro which is a landscape so with that said and I I've been
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in a good mood and despite being away from my wife and dogs I've been in a good mood
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every day for the last 21 days really until today when I got back from wandering around
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one of your parks and I see this picture of your governor
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you know I don't I actually don't really want to show up in somebody else's state and like
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attack their politicians because that's not my state or Commonwealth but I saw a photograph
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of your governor Josh Shapiro standing with a foreign leader signing an artillery shell
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that is going to kill civilians in a country we're not at war with with a grin on his face
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and I had a couple of thoughts I was disgusted by it actually I was enraged by it and here's
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why let me be specific about here's why the first reason is you know I've been driving
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around Pennsylvania and actually I've fished here a lot over the course of my life and
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so I know the state pretty well and there are some I mean it is really one of the prettiest
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out of 50 maybe the prettiest in spots out of 50 it's ridiculous how pretty it is but
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there are some hurting places in this state like hurting like actually actually so the
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premise here is that I'm very mad hearing or seeing this picture of Josh Shapiro with
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Zelensky because I fish in Pennsylvania quite a bit and there's a lot of really nice nature
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stuff but also people are hurting and that money could be used to improve their lives
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so that's the beginning of the premise yeah which I can understand I think you're gonna
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have to do a little work on putting the the sort of pieces together sure but it's the
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beginning of like I get your grievance mm-hmm so he goes on and it's you just developed
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this theme but there are some hurting places in this state like hurting like actually where
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people don't have jobs where you know beautiful buildings in utter disrepair walking back
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from dinner last night people sleeping on the sidewalk you know things that we should
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not put up with in a country with self-respect and our leaders did that actually and so for
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anybody in charge of anything in this country particularly in this state to be spending
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time money or concern on a foreign country's problems enraged me it enraged me so Tucker
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is really mad that any time effort or concern is going to be placed on something foreign
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when there are people here who could be helped so I get the premise you get the premise I
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do get the premise my next my thought when he said that mm-hmm was Odin okay right there
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must be something satisfying about being able to tell Ravens to go peck a man's eyes out
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mm-hmm that's a satisfaction that I think we would all be appreciated for in certain
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circumstances and I think this would be one of them sure absolutely because there's just
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there's just no way to listen to a man say that like Tucker mm-hmm like I was vacationing
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in Barbados when I realized that I don't would fall into aid go go fuck yourself it's a chill
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cool thing and a good point yeah yeah so your your idea of the Raven yeah it's I don't know
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if you know this sure that's an Adam Carolla idea oh well back in the day he used to talk
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about attack crows attack crows sure have a team of attack crows sure they're very smart
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you could train them to they're very smart yeah I see a lot of videos now where people
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are like if you give them food whenever they give you like a dollar you'll just get they'll
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just keep bringing you money because they think that's how they're like that's amazing
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they're smart and I'm Carolla the ace man sure conspicuous in his absence as a guest
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on this tour he's lost some celebrity status if he didn't make it as a guest on this tour
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yeah yeah there's a number of people who are sort of like hi did Chuck Norris get one no
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oh he might be real old now yeah I don't I don't know like he he might be dead I don't
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know if he's no no no he's got a new book out it's called black belt politics or something
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like that nice yeah nice yeah so Tucker is infuriated sure by this photo op thing that
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Josh Shapiro and Zelensky did and he just doesn't want to be lectured just wanna be
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lectured by these I swear to God him lecturing me about him not wanting to be lectured by
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these people is wanting me to lecture him shit turns angry okay how dare you lecture
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me about problems in some other place whether it's in Eastern Europe or the Middle East
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or I don't Central Africa I don't care I don't wish any of those people harm at all I wish
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everyone well but for you to spend your time worrying about that and paying for that when
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your own state people in your own state are literally living on the sidewalk damn you
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actually I thought I mean that he means it so this is all fun and is getting the crowd
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worked up but it's kind of dumb Tucker's show is largely lecturing people about problems
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in other countries and supporting foreign strongman leaders like Putin Javier Malay
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naive Bukele airbar Sonaro and Victor Orban the criticism he's making would be fine but
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he's criticizing himself just as much as he is Josh Shapiro he just doesn't accept that
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criticism on himself yeah I agree that people being unhoused is a serious problem and the
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government has a responsibility to confront it Tucker's ideology doesn't have a solution
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for the problem he's just using it as an excuse to attack supporting Ukraine but I have no
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qualms with taking housing insecurity as a serious issue that public resources should
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be directed towards solving the problem is that there's no connection between Tucker's
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feelings about people being unhoused and about the war in Ukraine even if literally everyone
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in the country had access to affordable housing he would still think we shouldn't give any
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money or time to Ukraine so pretending that his issue is rooted in some righteous indignation
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about how we should be using the resources for ourselves that's a charade the bigger
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scam is that even if no money or time was being spent on supporting Ukraine Tucker wouldn't
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support public assistance to provide people with housing he's just pretending he would
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support that because he knows that those optics are a weapon that he can use to attack his
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enemies he's scamming the audience by appealing to something that makes them feel like good
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people and by extension he demonizes the people that he is opposed to cultivating that feeling
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is really what 90% of the non-advertising part of this show is about that's the vibes
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that you're getting from him and I found that kind of interesting yeah I mean that's that's
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like that's America man like that's the that's the jump that's the like hey you know what
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your real problem is given that extra set and a half to fucking King George right that
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motherfuckers your real problem real problem give me your food give me your food give me
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your food because then I will give it to him no no it's him who's stealing your food I'm
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gonna take it though I'm gonna take all of your food and then later you'll have some
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maybe it's redirecting the intensity of anger is is just dumb in this case because it's
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just one thing you don't support and another thing you don't support yep and pretending
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you support one because it allows you to seem more righteous in your attack on the other
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I don't know it's uncompelling but there's just a lot of feelings yeah you know like
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I mentioned this up top he's an emotional guy and this next clip I almost like had my
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jaw on the floor when I was there because it's so sad it makes me so sad and I can't
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believe Tucker is saying this shit a leader's only job is to take care of the people he
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leads period it's not to end global climate change it's not to defeat Vladimir Putin or
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anybody else it's to protect and watch over the people he leads this is true of any organization
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starting with the most basic organization in any society which is the family a father's
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job is to watch over his family and if his kids are sick and have drug problems and he
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takes off to another country to deal with other people's children in a faraway land
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he has abandoned his family and I don't care what story he tells you about himself and
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what a great and caring and compassionate person he is and I don't care how much he
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attacks you for noticing he is a bad father and a bad man because he has violated his
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sacred duty to his own children that's why he's here is to watch over his children the
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same is true for all organizations whether it's a military unit or the office you work
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in or the town you live in or the state you reside in or the nation you were born in the
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people who want to have one job and that's to watch out for you because they're your
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leaders this clip is really helpful to understand Tucker's rhetorical framework he spends a
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lot of time whining about how the left wants a nanny state and then he rants passionately
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about how he wants a president who loves him like a parent it's incoherent and stupid because
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on a fundamental level no one should want the relationship dynamic between an individual
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and the government to mirror that of a parent and a child on its face it's idiotic and Tucker
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knows that perfectly well he absolutely does not want this to be his relationship with
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the government but he knows that the audience he's cultivated feels good when they talk
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about a person in power loving them it's emotionally validating to imagine that your president
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loves you and feels responsibility to protect you like a parent does their child the government
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doesn't love you and you shouldn't want them to you should want them to govern effectively
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and sometimes that works in your best interests and sometimes as an individual it doesn't
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I remember in this moment sitting in the arena just amazed at how petulant and weak it sounded
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because the side point of what Tucker is saying is that he wants to be treated like a child
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that's the role he's assuming in this metaphor in this allegory and he's encouraging the
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audience to assume that role as well which I think sucks no organization should run like
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a family no business or government or office should have a paternal structure and I think
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that Tucker understands that it's just that his brand has become so entwined with yelling
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about families and insisting families are under attack so this kind of grows out of
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that and it sounds really stupid yeah I mean it's it's a really good it's a really good
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scam though like the hey listen give up all of your agency so that a higher power male
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will do it for you is like the best scam it's the best scam yeah it's been going on for
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the whole time well and a huge part of this that is kind of a little too clear if you're
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paying attention is that like Tucker isn't really saying this about himself no he's not
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saying that he wants to be the child of the government he wants you to be yeah he wants
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to be exempted from this parent-child relationship but he wants you in that I'm gonna tell you
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something I'm gonna tell you something crazy I don't think a lot of Cardinals view themselves
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as equal to a lot of the people in their parishes you know what I'm saying I don't think they
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you know even though their book might you know I think some have strange power dynamics
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that are played out might have paternalistic paradynamics too yeah so like this whole thing
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turns into Tucker yelling about how the government should love you oh my god it was surreal that's
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creepy yes no you take a city like the one I woke up in this morning where my wife went
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to grade school and it's a beautiful city built over centuries by hard-working immigrants
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by the way German mostly but probably from lots of other places and they spent hundreds
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of years making this a great city and I walked through it this morning on the way to the
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park and the streets are covered in garbage and broken needles and so you don't notice
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that really Josh you don't notice that how can you not notice that there's someone sleeping
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right there and you're lecturing me about Ukraine damn you there's no concern at all
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and where there's no concern there's no love actually actually there's no love actually
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the movie love actually I was really I was really mad that he said that and nobody was
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like yeah I know I did at the moment yeah okay good I was almost wanted to break out
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into god he said he said the word we should all be like yeah he said the words right it's
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the it's when your catchphrase is actually yeah and you do that one it really feels like
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there should be a buzzer absolutely or a wink but he didn't really do any of that motherfucker
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also that just all seems so whiny and disconnected from the real problem he's pretending to be
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upset about which is people not having homes for what it's worth I walked around a bit
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in Reading and I didn't see much trash or humans sleeping on the street there were three
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shops that claimed to sell mystical objects that got me really excited sure they were
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all closed on Monday which sucked but that's the extent of the negative things that I saw
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walking around reading I don't know yeah I think that Tucker sounds like a dork and I
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don't think that on a critical examination of the things he's saying he could even justify
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whining about how much he wants the government to love you I think it's pathetic it's I mean
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like that the answer to 1984 1776 is very stupid yeah but the answer to 1984 is also
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not 1984 more 1984 later in 1984 that's also not the answer but maybe it may be the answer
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is being loved like a child by the government absolutely not maybe it is concern grows from
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love it's organic it's easy you didn't have to read a book about how to love your children
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it came naturally to you they're your children should have read a book and by the way that's
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enough I should have I know parent I know I'm one of them you know not super well-educated
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non geniuses we have a lot of dumb parents who are pretty good parents not because they
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learn some theory about parenting from the Harvard School of parenting but because they
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love their children and if you love your children you may make a mistake here and there I have
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every parent has but over time if your actions are guided by a sincere love for your child
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that child's gonna be okay because that's all that matters and so if over time you totally
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ignore the material and spiritual condition of your people if they wind up sleeping on
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the street and the storefronts are closed and the windows are broken and they can't
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walk to CBS without getting mugged and it's physically unclean that's not an accident
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they don't love you they hate you that is true do not listen I talk for a living so
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I think a lot about this this was just so weird so very bizarre sitting there and watching
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this I was like I did not expect this would be the kind of breakdown that I'm witnessing
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can anybody just do it you know like okay so when Bush when Bush was like I'm a regular
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guy like you but he was also like a super billionaire right who's well connected and
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his dad was the devil you know like it was fine because he was absolutely as dumb as
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you thought he was and you go hey he was so stupid and you believed him so funny words
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like strategic yeah yeah I'm gonna hit the watch to be hit this drive yeah he's an idiot
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so when he's like I'm just like one of you know you're fucking not but also in a way
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yes you you very much are maybe more so than a lot of people that's the tension of Tucker
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though Tucker is not at all that yes that he is a bullshitter he wants to be treated
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like that but also wants to be the like Ivy League guy there's there's anybody there's
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an incoherence in what he's putting forward and now here's a doctor the most decorated
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educated man of the we need to get rid of universities and everybody should be like
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no you're the guy yeah yeah you can't do that yeah just it's weird why aren't they calling
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him out on that I think people just enjoy whatever he makes them feel so also important
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point people do benefit from taking parenting classes yeah there's a whole lot that you
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don't know going in and you don't know anything feels a little strange to just sort of insist
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that everyone knows the right thing to do innately it's kind of unrelated to the convoluted
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point Tucker is making but this mentality that people know how to raise their kids automatically
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is a pretty toxic viewpoint that feeds into the anxiety and stresses that come with post
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partum depression some people who suffer from that feel like they don't know what they're
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doing as a parent and that's an indication that there's something inherently wrong with
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them and reinforcing that idea is an impediment to getting them the help that they need so
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fuck that oh you'll just know you'll just know well I don't well I have no I have no
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answer for that it's alienating yeah so Tucker's views about how much the government needs
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to be your parent are dumb and incompatible with his professed belief system and the analogy
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that he's trying to draw is a really unhealthy mindset it's just all bad all around I don't
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I can't even describe how shocked I was yeah by this I mean it's so stupid sometimes sometimes
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I really do think are is it just showboating are they just doing like the can-can because
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they because they can get away with anything like why not what couldn't he say at this
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point other than like hey maybe we should respect gay people like that's it I think
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that could be trouble maybe if he came out against I think actually he could manage coming
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out against Trump I think it would be I don't know he did try and do the RFK pivot sort
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of uncommittally that didn't work out I don't know I don't know I think I think that was
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more RFK's fault than everybody else's fault what yeah I'm gonna go with maybe maybe somebody
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should have looked into that freak man there's a hundred stories about him that we have not
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covered I again I think this is great he is the most fucked up human being that's ever
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lived he should be fucked up like this true it makes me feel good I was raised with a
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bad rate but I'm way better than RFK jr. no I mean see he has a lot of variables yeah
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so we've talked a number of times about words sure you think they mean something I have
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I have been wrong about that for so long this is a constant tension in your life it is and
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apparently Tucker shares I'm sure he does concern sure it's I'm sure he's not creating
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my concern entirely by himself no he wouldn't be doing that through words no no no so I
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think a lot about this about words and their use and I use words we all do to communicate
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with other people it's what separates us from the animals it's not the opposable thumb whoever
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thought of that as an idiot it's like God thought of the opposable thumb asshole about
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the way we feel and communicate that to another person to pass on information to pass on our
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history that's what our culture is it's talking and that's great but words are also if you
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think about it a means of deception they are a vector for lying how do the lies reach you
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because they come out of somebody's mouth so if you're in my business and you think
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a lot about language and you're around people who are lying for a living after a while you
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lose faith in it you do and after a while at least if you're me you decide you know
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I'm gonna be a lot more like my dog my dog is not a fluent English speaker genius but
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doesn't speak English and yet my dog and your dog and everyone's dog knows exactly what's
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up they can't hear a word you say they only watch you and when you move over and pick
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up the bowl it's dinner time you didn't tell them that they're watching what you do and
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I've decided that's a much more accurate way to judge intent you can say well I I have
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a plan because I'm so compassionate I really care about you and all your communities first
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of all anyone who uses the word community is lying to you because there's no such thing
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as a community there are only people actually with names and fingerprints they're only individuals
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no woman ever gave birth to a community there's no such thing talking about communities is
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a way of ignoring actual people really name three people in the community what are their
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middle names who are their moms your other moms you don't know anything about the community
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community is a way to make your responsibility more diffuse and less specific what the fuck
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is happening I so this is basically a textbook case of a stupid person's idea of a smart
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person except I don't think that's what's going on here I think this is a cynical presentation
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on Tucker's part and he's doing a smart person's version of what he thinks a stupid person
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could relate to mm-hmm I suspect he has a great disdain for this audience and clearly
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thinks that they should look at their leaders as parents so it's not hard for me to imagine
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that he thinks they're pretty stupid oh yeah it certainly lines up with the picture of
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you that you get with him from the text messages that came out in the Fox lawsuit seems like
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a real piece of shit yeah and maybe not the kind of person who's acting like this behind
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closed doors yeah so what's this rant even about words are important to transmit culture
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but you could also use them to lie so you should act like a dog right communities don't
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exist because people have fingerprints right this dude seems a little bit jacked up but
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maybe he's just doubled up on his nicotine pouches and he's riding that high whatever
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the case this intro speech was all over the fucking place and while he's getting decent
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responses here and there you can hear some points where he expected applause and it didn't
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come nice there is definitely moments where it's like oh okay that was supposed to supposed
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to land and it didn't all right i'm listening yeah that's nice he's not bombing but he's
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not killing i i feel i feel like here's here's how i feel if if i'm what would i say if i'm
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one of those people and uh in the arena i think of myself as a warrior i think of myself
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as a person who has recognized that there's something wrong with this world and is doing
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something to change it to fix it to whatever and if that means giving tucker money then
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at the very least i'll have fixed it or changed it or whatever you know but at the at the
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heart of it is the warrior i am i am a person you know strong and then i just think of like
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conan the barbarian listening to tucker you know like conan the barbarian being like i
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guess the government's my dad i guess i'll do what you said so so no crushing my enemies
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and just you'll do it okay like what a sad to have tuckered be your your your front man
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yeah especially when it's this tucker yeah like i think have some self-respect exactly
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conan exactly jesus christ this is weak this is weak yeah do you remember in the princess
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bride that that line the line that will always stick with me is we are men of action you
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and i did the lies are beneath us fuck yeah tucker carl said you are not that that's enough
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i mean that's kind of the thing that i was like experiencing while i was there was kind
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of like a i don't even respect this like i i don't even respect this enough to be really
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afraid of you or treat you with the respect that you want so clearly need and but at the
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same time all of this is scary and the ideas are dangerous sure you can't you can't just
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like totally be like ah this doesn't exist no big deal there were 6 000 people in this
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arena totally cheering for bigot shit yeah yeah yeah but at the same time like i have
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no respect for the presentation that tucker's putting on he's very weak he sounds like an
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idiot and i can't not laugh at that i mean i i bet god i it makes you want to be at one
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of those early those old revivals before before they had tv before they had any of that shit
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like marjo shit where it's like all we have are practical effects some people who dance
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and a child that is really charismatic and they made a fucking show out of it and i bet
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joe from texas uh opened i bet he did i bet he's a fucking vampire yep so here was one
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of the places where tucker what he the ex expectation of what he wanted from the audience
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doesn't come right he tries to get himself booed by mentioning philly sure oh um also
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he tries some jokes but it's not just josh shapiro trust me it's a whole line it's decades
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of politicians who didn't love you that enrages me and then to see him direct his love toward
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a foreign leader in a foreign population that he knows nothing about he doesn't speak ukrainian
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what do you know about ukraine josh shapiro no it's a way for his friends to get rich
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and him to puff himself up like some sort of fake world leader and seem like he cares
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he's got bigger concerns in my geopolitical you may not know that word geopolitical trust
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me josh shapiro is no freaking idea what that word means but more to the point josh shapiro's
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only job is to protect and enhance the lives of people in redding and pottstown and every
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other town in this state including and i'm just gonna say it you're gonna jeer me including
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philadelphia i know philadelphia i get it but philadelphia whatever else that you can
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say about is filled with american citizens no one was booing for philadelphia uh tucker
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just kind of thought that uh did take a jab at the right city right right right blue
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sits that's how disconnected from human human beings they are they're like oh well the largest
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city is clearly the big the enemy yeah yeah all these all these rural people will hate
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philadelphia a bunch of the people there were clearly from philadelphia is not a fucking
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oh my god oh these east coast delhi what from philly philly is where you're gonna be the
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roots also i get like the josh shapiro doesn't know geopolitical means or whatever i can
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get that that's a bad version of whatever the dig you're trying to make is it's just
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it sounds kind of dumb i think this is it sounds a little drunk i think this is disrespectful
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yeah i think this is disrespectful to the craft of being a piece of shit who riles people
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up like this i agree i agree especially because it's so pathetically like i need the government
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to be my dad yeah there is just like this this just weak softness and this is this was
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a point where i was like oh fuck yourself and how is that city doing i mean it's a reliable
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source of political power for creeps like josh shapiro because it's easy to rig it in
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philadelphia and that's we spent all our time talking about what we never talk about is
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the zombies walking under public transportation there and they're not zombies actually they're
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americans with names and they're dying and he doesn't care and giving them a safe place
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to shoot up is not love it's hate what that's hate i don't care what they call them what
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you're shooting up obviously and that's what i mean about language they can dress up hate
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as love oh that's love it's compassion it's caring it's harm reduction really your kid
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comes home is like i'm a junkie you're like well here's some needles i'm gonna give you
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some you time in your room to shoot fentanyl what you're gonna chain him to the freaking
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radiator until he gets better of course or do whatever you can to get that child off
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a drug that can and will kill him so this is the kind of thought that sounds insightful
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but is actually really fucking stupid the way a parent might respond to their child
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doing drugs is different than how a government might respond to a resident doing drugs because
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the relationships and responsibilities are super different if you just take this line
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of thinking a couple steps further i don't know if i can do that you can pretty easily
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see how it falls apart immediately government shouldn't do clean needle programs and harm
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reduction programs because what they should do is metaphorically chain you to a radiator
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so you get off drugs since that's what a good parent would do a good parent is also required
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to house and feed their child until they're 18 so if the government should treat us like
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their beloved children even though your adults shouldn't housing and food be free then yeah
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extend it that way yeah parents also largely dictate the diets of their children because
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kids would generally not eat healthy unless parents push them to does that mean tucker
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thinks it's okay for the government to make us eat the bugs because they should be able
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to mandate the yep what we eat because that's what parents do yeah a parent might say that
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their kid is grounded unless they clean their room and that's an expression of love teaching
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the kid about responsibility taking care of chores does tucker think that the government
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should be able to confine you to your house if you don't do the dishes like there's a
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thousand examples of this to the point where it's hard to believe that tucker wouldn't
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put in a little more effort to make his point sound less clearly stupid as it stands tucker
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seems to want the government to exert parental control over him because it loves him and
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he wants harsh sentences for victimless drug crimes this is super cool stuff i i mean you
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know i think what i find fascinating about it is that of all the things that he is talking
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about with parental bullshit and the comparison the one thing that he is not talking about
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is the one that i believe is the underpinning of all of it which is the concept of my house
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my rules this is my house so long as you live here i get to tell you what to do if you don't
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want me to tell you what to do then go somewhere else i will kick you out of my house right
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but that is final you understand so if you are making the comparison here then you don't
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get to bitch about what the government's doing at all there is no real whining about tyranny
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if this is where you're coming from yeah um your it seems really stupid yeah i have the
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complaints the sort of niche complaints that tucker and alex do when you view things through
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this lens i don't get it it's dumb and i don't think that he doesn't understand that i don't
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understand how you could have a career like he has without conceptually understanding
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the problem and the inconsistency right let's follow it further okay so this father of this
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family he's not caring about his family motherfucker is out he's out in ukraine signing bombs right
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right that was in philly or scram and even though he's sending money back to his family
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because he's getting paid for doing it that's not important so now this is happening all
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right and yeah whatever he's doing doesn't matter he's he's gone uh and you don't like
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what he's doing so then what do you replace your father yeah you get adopted by putin
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do you do you yeah i mean right do you like do you vote him out putin's your stepdad and
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if that's the case then can you choose any father and if you can choose your father then
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you yourself are your own father by having the choice you have taken control of your
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own life congratulations we've just worked out why you're an idiot for believing all
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of this it's the paradox yeah so um tucker says something really dumb in this next clip
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i think it's revealing and almost mind-blowingly ironic okay so the only way you judge people
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is by the effects of what they do you judge the tree by the fruit and you can say well
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i'm a lemon tree i'm a lemon tree bright orange tart but delicious with diet coke i'm a lemon
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tree really because those are pomegranates honey those aren't lemons you're lying you
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are not a lemon tree those are pomegranates i know because there's the fruit you can tell
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me you care about the people of commonwealth of pennsylvania but they're dying of drug
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odys and you're doing nothing other than sending more weapons of mass destruction to some creepy
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guy in a track suit so this is really interesting how tucker uses the expression you know a
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tree by its fruit he seems to think that it means that you can tell a lemon tree is a
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lemon tree if it produces a lemon and likewise for a pomegranate bush but that's not what
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the verse in the bible means and anybody who's read matthew 7 wouldn't know that it literally
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goes on to say quote every good tree bears good fruit but a bad tree bears bad fruit
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a good tree cannot bear bad fruit nor can a bad tree bear good fruit every tree that
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does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire therefore by their fruits you
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will know them in jesus's words this means that the healthiness of a particular tree
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is assessed by the fruit that it bears not that you can identify a tree based on what
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sort of fruit it makes it's very obvious from the verse and anyone who's taken the bible
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seriously at any point in their life would not make that kind of conceptual mistake yeah
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in order to have the interpretation tucker has you would have to have seen this verse
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in a meme but never actually read the first books of the new testament reading a real
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dick i i i've i've said this before but i think the only thing that really would get
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in the way of christianity spreading and taking over is the whole christ thing once you get
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rid of him baby open season oh gangbusters yeah so making this kind of a mistake that
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tucker is making is what they call a tell in the poker business this mistake reveals
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that he doesn't really know anything about the book that he's professing to center his
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life around he doesn't know shit about the teachings of the person he claims to serve
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and he's fighting demons for in an ironic way this is the fruit by which you can pretty
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clearly know tucker's tree it's a bad tree he's a tree that's full of shit yeah the next
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verses in matthew 7 are ones that tucker should reflect on a bunch in the coming days quote
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not everyone who says to me lord lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven but he who does
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the will of my father in heaven many will say to me on that day lord lord have we not
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prophesied in your name cast out demons in your name and done many wonders in your name
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and i will declare to them i never knew you depart from me evildoers if there's a hell
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i'm pretty sure uh tucker is destined to end up there and this kind of behavior is exactly
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why yeah yeah this is sacrilege yeah yeah at that but i mean it does go back to that
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earlier just like they are they will not be held accountable to either no they won't be
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held accountable to actual political ideology or religious ideology it is just i am going
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to say what i need to say to get rich to get power to and frankly just because i'm bored
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and i hate you like it's if that that makes that's the only thing that makes sense now
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for me listening to this is like does he just want to go places where he hates people and
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then say it to their faces i i mean if so congrats that's fucking crazy man but like
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there was a part of me that if i take seriously what he's saying yeah if i believe that what
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he's expressing is actually what he believes and yeah like i come away with the feeling
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that what he's motivated by is he wants power to love him yeah that is like really what's
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driving this sure and he feels that trump loves him sure and he feels like everyone
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else doesn't and so he's supporting trump because he wants the figurehead of power the
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manifestation of power sure to personally love him right in the way that he feels that
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like putin does or orbon or bolsonaro these people love and respect him yeah and he wants
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power to do that and i think that's sad but i also don't think that he's being totally
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straight up about his beliefs true and what he wants so there is an element of it that
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could be like he does just want to say fuck you too i mean he is fucking nuts yeah i imagine
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ironically uh we would all be better off if his dad had read some books about raising
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kids uh yeah yeah and wasn't a spy just throwing that out there so um in this next clip tucker
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says something that i think is kind of okay which is that if you delight in the deaths
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of civilians you suck sure great yeah anybody who takes delight in the death of civilians
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is a freak that's just a fact and there's something forbidden about saying that particularly
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if you're on the right i've been on the right my whole life i've never been on the left
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i've never been some freaky liberal okay ever and i never will be so i think i have the
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authority to say if you take delight in the suffering of other human beings you're evil
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and i mean that that's what my religion tells me that's what common sense tells me that's
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disgusting that's disgusting and yet they do because the truth is they're violence worshippers
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actually they're violence where they are they are so by this point tucker is about 15 minutes
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into his rant and he seems a little fucked up like he was jumping topic to topic making
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insane proclamations and overall seeming like maybe he was hanging out with alex before
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the show sure he's giving off alex vibes sure sure i do agree that delighting and killing
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civilians is bad but it's probably a little meaningless to insist people are evil if they
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do it plus then we need to litigate what counts as delighting and killing civilians because
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a lot of tucker's early 2000s career would definitely be characterized by including that
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yeah this all just sounds like an uncentered pandering and confused demagogue trying to
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work a crowd and getting like 75 of the response they're going for but in that clip he says
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that there's something wrong with killing civilians and there's something forbidden
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about saying that on the right yeah what are you talking about man man what are you talking
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about i have no fucking clue tucker why don't you expand on that a little bit tell me more
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about that it's we're man yeah y'all are fucked up dude but those left people are weird those
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are the people who are crazy i've never been part of them fine freaky liberals whatever
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i'll i'll take that i'll be a freaky liberal what the fuck are you talking about man you're
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crazy see they worship violence is the thing i don't understand how you can be a freaky
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liberal who fucks all the time and yet also worship violence it's all in there too busy
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fucking man nope i'm dancing with my nips right now they worship violence all right
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that that is why dick cheney now supports kamala harris what right what because they
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all worship violence what they love violence that's why every federal agency with guns
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they've taken over no it's they who's they this time why do they love it because it makes
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them feel like god that's why because the one power that god possesses that we do not
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possess is the power to create and end life you can kill in self-defense we can argue
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about what self-defense is i mean that's you know it's a whole it's a whole conversation
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which is a legitimate conversation but what we know we can't focus we are not god or murder
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people to get rich you can't be dick cheney actually sorry it's not allowed okay and so
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when dick cheney and his creepy freaky little daughter join the kamala harris for president
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campaign everyone's like oh that's so shocking i can't quite believe that no no no all the
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people who worship violence are now on the same side this is cute and all but tucker
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needs to drop the bullshit he fully supported cheney when it mattered whether he supported
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him or not he's not gonna get a single point for being anti-cheney now because he doesn't
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like trump this is a coward's version of having principles and go fuck yourself if you follow
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the train of thought that he's on here it goes like this the left worships violence
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because violence makes them feel like god this is because the only power that god has
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that we don't is the ability to create and destroy life already i have to stop and say
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that this isn't true god created the universe which we can't do i can get someone pregnant
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and have a kid or kill someone i could do those things those are literally powers that
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i have tucker it makes no sense here one could argue those are the only final powers anyone
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has yes tucker is on one i do think like your responsive focus is is right on because there
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was a sense in the room of like what where you going buddy man hey come on man you're
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dipping off the wrong end of the knife i think people were a little confused where he was
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going but then he got him back with the shitting on cheney sure sure sure sure so that's that's
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fine see we can't kill and we can't make life because god could do that but okay i disagree
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but because we're not god we can't kill people because they're in the way or kill people
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to get rich right which kind of implies that god can do that it does which is weird why
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would god do that why would you want a god who could do that god wants to get rich what
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is what is going on man no what is happening yeah tucker was really spinning his wheels
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yeah i i i mean i guess i guess it really never occurred to me what it would be like
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to just be somebody who goes up on a stage in front of thousands of people and talks
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you know without chops without having spent like a long time figuring out you know like
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yeah oh i've got this bit i've got this i've got this whole thing i've done this a million
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times whenever i go out here i am prepared for all of this stuff right and i've got bits
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and i've got material and not just that i've got the confidence in knowing that if my bits
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don't work i'm in i can get in with these people and go yeah this is awful yeah and
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it's one of the things that actually sticks out about the difference between tucker and
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alex yeah is that alex is working the crowd yeah tucker they'll respond well to things
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when he says them that the things they like but he has no control over the audience right
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he is not in any way engaged in like set a punch line right or like the flow of where
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he like how his monologue is going he's just famous yeah yeah he's gonna get a positive
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response throughout for most of whatever he says yeah so i just don't think he cares that
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much and he sounds really stupid uh yeah i don't know it's it's so weird it's so weird
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because you expect like oh the people at that spot doing those things have to have worked
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their way up there and then it's like man i can go to a thousand two-year-in stand-up
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comics who have put more thought into the three minutes they're gonna do to nobody yeah
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i think then tucker i think tucker has gotten to the point where he can like do an opening
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monologue for a tv show in his sleep yeah and i think that that's kind of some of the
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vibe that he's giving off here yeah which doesn't fully work in a live environment but
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he's playing with the crowd enough that it's not like totally jarring right but there's
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enough points where there's a disconnect that it feels like a more a more capable hand could
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have done better here um so tucker goes on and uh sounds like an idiot some more the
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one thing they're good at the only thing their unique talent it's not building anything it's
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not creating anything what's the last time someone built something beautiful and useful
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in redding what's that time one of your leaders is like you know we're gonna make it better
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in redding well it's been a long time josh shapiro hasn't done it but the one thing they
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are good at is seizing the moral high ground immediately no matter what they're doing whether
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it's giving drugs to junkies crack pipes to crackheads abetting the largest example of
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human trafficking in the history of the west which is what they're doing right now is they
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move 15 million people illegally into our country from around the world the girls get
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sold off to coyotes they did that they're human traffickers at scale astute sounds like
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an angsty teen yelling about his parents which makes sense considering all the other shit
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he said in the speech immigration isn't human trafficking and i don't particularly care
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about whining about who has a moral high ground that's abstract and kind of subjective so
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it's not really a productive conversation however the northeast fire station in redding
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had their grand opening on september 21st just a few days before tucker's show this
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is a very modern fire station that was in the works for almost a decade and they literally
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had their ribbon cutting ceremony a few days before this they used five million dollars
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from the federal government under the american rescue plan and it'll be able to serve the
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community much better than their previous outdated firehouse not to mention the amenities
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it'll provide for the firefighters when they're not responding to calls it's a huge improvement
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yep about a month before this the redding skate park association finally opened a public
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outdoor skate park after years of trying to get this done they had a dedication ceremony
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in late august and where it was made possible by a 200 000 grant from the department of
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conservation and natural resources as well as 200 000 from the america rescue plan and
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855 000 from the capital improvement program it really feels like tucker just doesn't care
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at all to know about any of the stuff he says because the thing he plans on saying feels
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good and the audience doesn't care if he's being accurate or not it's all just it comes
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off as very dumb but also cynical and malicious towards the crowd when's the last time that
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they did anything here in redding a couple days ago they opened this fucking firehouse
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yeah i don't know it is it is so much it's not perfect but there is a counter example
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of what you're fucking talking about no it's it's disdain it's disgust like the idea isn't
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because he's not coming in saying oh what is the government the government hasn't built
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this for you he thinks he's saying that but what he's actually saying to these people
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is you can't do anything for yourselves you know i mean your children you're you're you're
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not a community you're just a bunch of idiots yes fingerprints you're fucking people if
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if if something happens to you none of you are capable of banding together and helping
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each other if you need something none of you are capable of coming together and figuring
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out a way to get it it does not come off complimentary no uh towards what he seems to think no he's
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just a giant piece of shit man yeah but he also seems to be trying to do some bad comedy
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um this next clip i think kind of fits that okay it's just it's really weird there was
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an analysis done bobby kennedy told me this and i checked it it's true in the last election
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biden voters on 70 of the wealth in the united states and trump voters on 30 and i thought
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to myself on the one hand it's like okay republican parties down the party of working-class people
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great but then i thought how did they get 70 of the wealth they don't do anything actually
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they have no skills there's nothing they do that we really need in fact most of it's bad
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i mean ask yourself if your average biden voter somehow like i pulled out of the workforce
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would you be okay no i'm really like how long do you think this country could survive without
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private equity a week before we all just starve to death how long could you and your family
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make it without a dei consultant on site no i'm serious could you get to halloween or
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would one of your little children stare up at you with doe eyes and say mommy i need
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a dei consultant i need it now i need it now honestly i need a school counselor or some
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heavy-set nurse to convince me to go trans i need that honestly i need tim walls talking
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to me about my sex life in high school so that thing he's citing about bobby kennedy
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that uh told him that it's not true no he's misinterpreting data that showed the counties
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that voted for biden represented about 70 of the aggregate gross domestic product that's
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not the same thing as biden voters holding 70 of the wealth bobby kennedy is a fucking
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mess so who knows what he actually understands but i don't believe that tucker doesn't know
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that he's misrepresenting this stat yeah for malicious purposes yeah also he makes an interesting
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argument that biden voters are unessential alex has spent years talking about how calling
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some workers unessential during the pandemic was the first step in a plan to killing off
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most of the population so shouldn't that same logic apply to tucker not probably not if
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you listen to that clip though you can see a very fascinating glimpse into what this
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is versus what tucker probably thinks this is he's doing his little riff about how biden
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voters aren't important and he asks how long can we live without private equity the room
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is silent no one responds to that no one thinks it's funny and no one cares then he shits
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on the idea of a dei consultant and the place pops off this gets a good response because
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that's what the show is about the audience just wants to yell about the things they're
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supposed to be mad about like wokeness it's a dumb show but on some level i think tucker
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wants to be doing something that has a more potent critique of things like private equity
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but if you listen to this it couldn't be more clear that these people just want to hear
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him say shitty stuff about the groups they don't like so they can register their approval
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with cheers yep that's what uh tucker's work is he tries to make a dig at something that's
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a real problem in the country and maybe we should address it and he gets crickets he
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jangles some keys in front of the audience by making a reference to a social media driven
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culture war panic and he gets cheers and laughter it's not much deeper than that nope that's
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a microcosm right there yeah yeah play hotel california eagles right shut the fuck up and
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play hotel california all right maybe life's been good to me so uh so far i know that's
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not an eagle song it's still we want to hear it so um i i'm gonna skip this next clip because
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i don't care it's just tucker talking about how for a split second before she gathers
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herself kamala harris looks scared when the cameras are on her okay great don't care every
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time all the time every time okay jack pasobek is the first guest sure uh he brings out and
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i don't care i went and got a pretzel during the middle of it sure i don't give a shit
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about jack pasobek he seems like a kid who's trying too hard um and i don't believe him
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uh but he's promoting his book he has a book called bulletproof sure we talked about this
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sure he stopped the printing of it because there was a second uh the shooting uh yeah
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i recall yeah and so this is this is developed and now he's not just doing a book he's doing
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a full-on investigation of these assassinations good tucker i don't trust josh apuro i definitely
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don't trust merrick garland so what we've decided to do with this it started as a book
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we're launching our own investigation into what went on and we've hired a private investigative
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firm and some of whom are actually in the crowd today just fyi and we are going to be
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expanding that investigation from bethel park to butler down to west palm beach all the
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way out to hawaii tucker we're going to go to greek crane if we have to we are going
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to get to the bottom of what happened we're calling it the bulletproof project because
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i just don't trust any of these people i don't trust any of these people be careful in ukraine
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i may not go personally again over there but um the one thing that we have learned tucker
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is this this bounty the 150 000 and i promised people that i would drop some news so i had
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the information about the bounty on friday we found that out today i didn't know the
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department of justice would be publicizing the bounty like it's a john wick movie right
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and and they put it out there matt gates comes on my show a couple of days ago and he says
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there's five assassination teams targeting trump five assassination teams three of which
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have foreign ties i think we know one of them already and and then two of which are domestic
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what people need to understand is the bounty and the five assassination teams are tied
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it's it's like they're actually competing for this bounty donald trump's very life that's
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not enough money and every time he goes up to speak now he has to stand behind what i
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call leftist glass because they keep trying to kill him he's a brave man he's a brave
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man so as the premise for a sincere investigation this sounds so stupid but it kind of sounds
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like a good book launch campaign it does sound pretty good for launching a book yeah pretending
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to be investigating a rash of assassination attempts in an effort to create an overdramatized
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story you sell as a book or maybe a series of books maybe a documentary that's a good
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scam but this dude just sounds like a fucking dork does he actually think that there are
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multiple professional assassin teams that would accept an open competitive contract
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to kill the former president for a hundred fifty thousand dollars nothing it's ridiculous
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are you telling me that like we could crown fund the murder of a president i get that
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it sounds like a lot of money to you or me in our lives but in the world of crime that's
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jack shit alex brings in more than that many days just from the infowars store on a single
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day there's no way that's the going rate for presidential level assassins jesus christ
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how does he think this plays out like someone kills trump and then they call the state department
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looking for payment like do they do you need to bring trump like a vial of his blood to
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prove you did it what do you do i mean well this is dumb this is stupid yes this is just
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too stupid it's you have to leave a calling card obviously right you have to leave your
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fucking assassin team's joker card and that way everybody will be like oh it was them
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and then it'll turn out that actually that is your calling card the assassin team that
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frames other assassin teams and like obviously if you're doing this and you succeed you're
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gonna get set up they're not gonna pay you that 150 000 we've all seen this movie it's
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a trap what is wrong with you that you would take what are you a bargain assassin yeah
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this is dumb jesus christ but fun so tucker begins to bring out alex sure and you can
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tell the room the energy shifted yeah people were real excited okay i want to bring out
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um our next guest who and let me let me just say we had a little trouble finding an arena
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that would take him because he's so controversial and i'm i'm grateful i'm grateful to where
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we are right now and to the people of pennsylvania but let me just say so one thing you could
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feel in the room was the intensity of the response that alex got was way higher than
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for jack and probably on par with or higher than the response for tucker this was a crowd
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that was excited about the idea of seeing alex i'm a hater i love shit on alex for his
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embarrassments but in this case it would be super unfair to do that the crowd was into
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him being introduced and there were a bunch of infowars shirts in the crowd he had fans
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in the building cool there's something about the way tucker stops himself before thanking
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the arena that makes me think they told him not to say their name probably smart i don't
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know if that was part of the agreement of doing the show but it feels intentional it's
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either that or he just like forgot the venue's name also possible also possible he's a piece
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of shit could go either way it's pretty conspicuous yeah so tucker is bringing out alex and the
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only rationale that he ever gives for being like alex is cool is that he predicted 9 11
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sure and so that's the credit that that really all we're gonna do huh yep all right so alex
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jones was one of those is one of those people you're supposed to be very shocked by here's
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the one fact about alex jones that i can't get over alex jones predicted 9 11 and he
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did know to think about this for a sec and he did so on tape now i worked in television
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my whole life when you're on tv there's a timestamp we don't need to guess i'm on tv
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for decades saying super dumb things which live forever on youtube alex jones in the
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summer of 2001 said you need to call the white house right now because planes are going to
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hit the world trade center and they're going to blame it on osama bid laden he said that
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i've seen the tape you can look it up so no check us out so i lived in dc at the time
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trust me i was in i had a daily news show on another channel not one person was saying
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anything like that so alex jones says that it's on tape we can prove he said that it
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happens why didn't the u.s government call alex jones and say how could you have not
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clearly clearly you're a prophet of some kind we need you in this global war on terror because
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clearly you can see things that nobody else can see that's incredible have you even met
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anybody who's predicted something like that no you haven't like i've never met anyone
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i met everybody i've never met anybody who did anything like that but instead of celebrating
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alex jones for making the most unbelievable call in the history of the news business they
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said about the fbi sets about trying to destroy him and so begins this incredible saga of
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lies about alex jones which you probably all heard about i'm not going to relitigate it
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but that was the fbi that did that probably best not to relitigate that so we've been
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over this a bunch of times but tucker is talking about an edited clip of alex that he's seen
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and he's never thought to look more into alex said multiple different things but not together
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he said that people should call the white house and tell them not to blame a false flag
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on bin laden that is true he also speculated that the world trade center was a potential
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target because bin laden had already attacked the world trade center and this was not an
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uncommon prediction particularly in conspiracy media at the time yeah like with bill cooper
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yeah alex did not say they were gonna fly planes into the world trade center and blame
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bin laden he listed using dummy planes to create fake civilian casualties as one of
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the long list of things that were mentioned in operation northwoods these things that
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alex said during his broadcast have been spliced together to make it look like a much more
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coherent prediction uh than it was and he's managed to fool tucker carlson which honestly
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doesn't seem that hard someone talked him into supporting the iraq war so i don't really
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have a high expectation for his ability to assess information also i take some offense
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at the way that tucker is derisively saying the words war on terror as if the very idea
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is a joke his career is built on defending that idea shifting your position on something
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like this requires accountability which he has not taken nope and i i find that to just
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be really yeah gross yep yep yep yep fuck these uh people throw them off the ship bro
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yeah get him out of here so we you know i think uh it's sensible to think like eh tucker's
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putting up with alex but he wants to make it clear in this beginning that uh no i love
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this man sure he is the most amazing person i have ever met in my life great if there's
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one thing to know about alex jones it's that and on the basis of that i will always believe
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and i will always say in public that alex jones is the most extraordinary person i've
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ever met and so on the basis of that proud to have him not having him here because it's
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like naughty ooh alex jones is like no no i'm proud to know alex jones i'm proud to
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know the person who tried to warn the country about the worst terror attack in our history
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and was persecuted for it and with that ladies and gentlemen alex jones it's so funny going
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back to the point that intro was too good well it's true it's tucker's the best not
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me tucker tucker tucker immediately work in the crowd yeah yep uh they cut out some of
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the uh like him coming out yeah uh and it's just like a big pop you know like i'm sure
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i don't know why they cut it out but they edited a little bit there but nothing really
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wild happened they could say it was a 10-minute long-standing ovation it probably was yeah
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so there you go it was a long-standing ovation that that's worth i don't know if it was 10
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minutes yeah uh it was too long it felt weird i bet alex coming out chase guys are behind
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him with the camera so weird uh what are these people doing so uh tucker refuses to be ashamed
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to know alex okay cool man all right good for you yeah proud of you okay and it goes
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back to what i was saying earlier that the only thing they're good at is seizing the
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moral high ground and they try to make you ashamed of the best things about your life
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like being married or having normal kids or not castrating your children or whatever or
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knowing alex jones like oh how can you know alex jones and i'm sick of it and i'm just
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gonna say that alex jones is my friend there's nothing to be ashamed of there i'm not ashamed
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and you shouldn't be either they should be ashamed he called 911 and they tried to put
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him in jail for it so anyway thank you well thanks for having me i gotta say
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i love you this is a beautiful state full of beautiful people and when we get president
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trump elected all of us together are gonna lift the curse off of this country and we're
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gonna send the globalist to prison alex knows not to end anything he's saying without some
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kind of a giant applause line yep and so he that's the way you do it yes it's what else
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are you there for yeah but it's a little too much it's a little too much how long does
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he got he well i mean the whole show is about an hour and a half okay tucker probably did
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about 15 20 ish up top right jack pysobik does about 20 so maybe alex is on stage for
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45 minutes or so yeah and he can't keep that energy up it's too hot yeah um and so that
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kind of there's diminishing returns sure sure sure sure quite boring as it goes along yeah
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i mean no your classic rules first 10s gotta be hot middle 25 fucking you know have some
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fun that's pysobic closers gotta be fire but the 10 minutes starting out top or whatever
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the the intro that tucker did was not hot it was whiny yeah and it came off very weak
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yeah and then you had jake pysobik on and it was kind of dull and then alex comes in
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and business picks up yeah because he's yelling sure sure sure and he knows what the audience
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wants to react to right so he's giving them that in a much more condensed and structured
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way yeah yeah than anyone else is and that's kind of all he's doing that's what he's there
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for it's amazing to me all these great people and whether they're black white old young
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to see the electricity in people's eyes that are populous and that are americans and that
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love god and that love children and love freedom and hate tyranny i can feel the strength in
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this auditorium at capacity in redding pennsylvania and like i told the globalist a long time
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ago i don't know how all this is gonna end but if they want to fight they better believe
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they've got one hey you said it you said the thing yep fun there it is so now there is
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something that's really strange about this that i wouldn't have really understood if
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i wasn't there uh-huh and that is that alex is staring off into the middle distance sure
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the whole time great there is an intensity that he is not looking at jack or tucker because
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i think that he would get cues from them to shut up yeah that would be a problem yeah
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and so he's just looking off into nowhere being like the globalist want to kill everybody
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right right right right and it feels bizarrely anti-social i can get no social cues and thus
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i am free yeah i will feel bad if i get that look from tucker that he wants to say something
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oh no yeah and so as you're there i mean obviously it's an arena and so you don't see that they're
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pretty small on stage yeah so you see the like video shot of their like you know the
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big screen sure sure sure sure and a lot of the time when it's alex talking they're very
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careful not to show tucker because i think you might have been annoyed yeah because he
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won't shut the fuck up amused and somewhat annoyed at points i like i like the idea of
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a an aggressive uh uh solipsism competition you know like so you're you're in the same
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room how can you possibly not believe that there's another human being there guess what
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this is how yeah good luck good luck pretending i don't exist i'm allowed i bet you won't
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shut up yeah there you go yeah so jack brings up that uh that alex is anti-war sure that's
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something that is a real credit to him okay the one thing i always give alex props for
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that no one ever gives him credit for alex jones has stood against war for 30 years every
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single day of his camp of his career but i'm for the war peacefully with information against
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the globalists the real wars here with the girls and soros and obama and the new world
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order and black rock they're on us and we accept the challenge we're taking the country
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back 1776.
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this is junk food
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use you tell them the answer to 1984 is 1776 1776 right it began right here 1776 1776 you
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know alex you know alex the real we're only about an hour away from where they did the
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real 1776 that's why exactly bless you for saying that bless you for saying that this
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is so weird it's he's coming out too hot yeah yeah this is too much too hot it's too much
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i feel like i need to brush my teeth it's so this is this is saccharin sweet but man
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they're loving it oh yeah hell yeah oh everybody loves that first bite the pep rally vibe that
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jesus christ are they going somewhere after this i mean alex is clearly keeping the party
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going right like they they're like yeah let's go to the store like what are we doing are
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we getting drunk what's happening i did he overhear a lot of people talking about drinking
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at the hotel bar good uh next door i would need to do that yeah yeah so tucker asks alex
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a question which i think is foolish in this environment um but it's a question that's
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about like all of these secular people in my life they've been talking about god a lot
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lately sure how do you what do you think about what do you think about that and then alex
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just kind of i mean why ask him questions why would you why what it's just do what what
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to get going down this road wind him up yeah yeah and in the last year i know more people
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in my secular world who are mentioning god in conversation and i've i don't know if you're
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having this experience it's very striking to me do you notice this when we followed
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god we had nothing but prosperity and success oh boy we got rid of god everything fell apart
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i mean people think texas the boom place it's got the crime the filth the satanism the degeneracy
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the pedophiles pennsylvania gorgeous state fell apart in 10 years california one of the
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most beautiful places in the world total deep red ronald reagan total crap hole now so this
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is about god and people are recognizing that because now they understand we're getting
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sucked down a vortex into literal hell we gotta reach back up to god and god will take
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us out of this man is it you've been saying that for decades i've always wondered i've
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asked you this like 20 times in private over dinner i'm proud to say we have dinner um
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and i but i ask you so you never give me your answer but since there are thousands of people
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watching maybe you will now what's it like to be vindicated on everything yeah how does
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this hand job feel good uh a little rubbery i i i you know what uh it turns out i like
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a firm hand job your limp shit is not doing me any good yeah oh boy so alex's question
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at least kind of got or his answer kind of got back to god we're being sucked into the
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vortex to hell and god will save us or whatever yeah doesn't really um directly address the
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secular people talking about god but whatever it's close enough yeah um but then that question
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what does it feel like to be vindicated about everything is green walled level this is sad
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yep yep how does it feel to be the most right but also if you say something that disagrees
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with me i'm more right than you but also we won't talk about it on the stage so when alex
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is being confronted with a question like how does it feel to be vindicated about everything
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yeah he starts to realize i think a bunch of the shit i said hasn't come true there
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is that we're supposed to be having an ebola outbreak right now that would be big and that
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it did not happen no so hold on i need to explain this somehow no you don't yeah he
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does no you don't and here's here's this genius i was making predictions with the proviso
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that if you call the white house and tell them don't fly planes the world trade center
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and and then bring in the police state and then invade the muslim countries to bring
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them in here uh you know not even go after radical islam if you do all i was thinking
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if you call the white house tell them don't do it they may not do it but of course i don't
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have a big enough audience people didn't believe me so we couldn't stop them so i make these
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predictions about probable futures because i can see all the evidence pointing towards
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it so that we can stop it but but now the good news with elon and you and so many others
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that are fully awake and reaching a lot more people than i ever did folks are are really
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waking up and their knowledge curve is going parabolic right now so we're in the driver's
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seat but that makes the globalists very dangerous and the empire is going to strike back how
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well they always love to pre-program it so claus swab is a cyber attack will make covid
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look like a matter of inconvenience kind of a russian accent of a german of course you
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will eat the bugs and you will love it but these are real quotes we don't need too many
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people in the future to polish the robots these are these are real quotes real quotes
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um it's uh we got we got kind of a uh boris and natasha then we got a marvin the martian
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and then i think we ended with the schwarzenegger the marvin the martian might have actually
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been dr strange love oh i can see that yeah yeah i think because i feel like he's done
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that before i can see that sure um so i think that it's good form to explain away why you're
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wrong about everything because your predictions stopped these horrible things right like he
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stopped the ebola outbreak because he talked about it right perfect i like the idea what
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a hero i like the idea that it is only because you weren't popular enough that 9 11 happened
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you could have saved the world from 9 11 if people liked you more if i understand correctly
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if alex was more popular we wouldn't have had 9 11 yep that's a real tragedy that people
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were resistant to his charm i mean i guess i guess if we're gonna do a donnie darko style
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where did it all go wrong time loop close we gotta make alex jones a lot more popular
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in july of 2001 yep that's the that's the key that sounds right so i'm gonna give you
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a choice okay um run away from reading pretzelvania is that how the choose your own adventure
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i did want it to end yeah i definitely was like i'm glad that alex is getting the adoration
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of this crowd i'm sure that's really happy for him i'm sure it feels good yeah but it's
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boring as shit and he's just saying say like a lot of the same shit i hear him say all
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the time yeah and tucker's thing was really far more interesting from a psychodynamic
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perspective um but here's my choice what's that for you yeah i have a clip of alex talking
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for two straight minutes and it's nonsense do you want to hear that or not i i mean barely
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taking a breath in all honesty i might fall asleep yeah but go for it okay all you folks
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just want to be good decent people and live a good life and you know experience god's
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great creation love god you need to be gotten out of the way for the rise of their new uber
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mentioned superman so we're right back to all of that and that's why you have the official
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plan of depopulation by the un down to 500 million that's an 80 plus percent reduction
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that's official that was on the georgia godstones in georgia till somebody blew it up but nobody
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got hurt thank god so so the agenda is your garbage you're just a consumer you're like
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weevils in the in the pantry eating their their their flower or something and you just
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have to be gotten rid of because you don't fit into their beautiful magic wonderful plan
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i was watching the devos group you'll have meetings all the time at their world government
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summit about a year ago through a palantir how were you watching that and he said listen
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people don't want your world government it centralizes things it's tyranny people are
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rejecting you we need diversity of countries and sovereignty and peoples like firewalls
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in a building or bulkheads in a ship but but in some of the other meetings they had these
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globals that are going we're just doing something so beautiful what we're bringing them i don't
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know why they're opposing us and don't trust us well because you just want to depopulate
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us because you're selfish demonic pigs who love the raw power of destroying people because
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america for all its faults was the best house in a bad neighborhood and the whole world
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the whole world for 100 to 200 plus years but really the last hundred aspired to come
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here aspired to have our freedom and the globalists can't have this country exist and have their
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horrible global technocracy slave plantation ai system in charge if there's a place that's
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still free and open compared to everywhere else so we've got to be brought down and used
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to bring tyranny to the world while we're being destroyed and while we're paying for
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it so the whole world turns against us and we collapse and so the idea of america is
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discredited so that other people around the world don't ever try to go the path of our
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republic which is diametrically opposed to their globalist satanic death cult and that's
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why they're attacking america so that kind of i think is representative of his whole
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thing sure which is these long fucking take a breath yeah kind of rants where people are
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confused they don't really know what he's talking about they want to cheer sometimes
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yes but he's interrupting them yeah he's on a razor's edge of saying stuff that's confusing
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and kind of boring yeah hitting applause lines not accepting some applause points standing
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on top of him yeah because he's worried that he's not gonna get the mic back right if he
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lets them applaud right right because then tucker jack can sneak in he kind of has no
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confidence in his ability to speak slowly and be listened to right right just as dumb
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i don't i mean i think i think his i think his point that he's making is that um if you
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don't want people to come here you should turn it into a shithole and that's the globalist
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plan oh but he doesn't want people to come here it's true so he should be a globalist
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um i mean i wish tucker would ask him that i mean it feels like a fairly simple straightforward
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reading of they're trying to we were a city on a hill blah blah Reagan uh now they want
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to take that away because we can't be an inspiration to everybody else uh everybody has wanted
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to come here i hate immigration because of Reagan uh now it's a shithole so people need
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to stop coming yeah makes sense speaking of Reagan uh i didn't cut out this clip but there's
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a part where Alex is talking about Bohemian Grove sure and he's like yeah that used to
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be how they would compromise the republicans by making them do gay stuff yeah and he's
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like notoriously Nixon and Reagan were the ones who said no and i'm like you had Bob
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Chapman on talking about a video of Reagan getting pegged Reagan said yeah baby you're
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you're denying your own mythology come on man so uh tucker does not get to ask many
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questions or butt in all that much sure but he does say some stupid things the thing that
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i can't get past is to put the destruction of other human beings as a goal is not a that's
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not a human desire like animals don't commit genocide actually that's not natural that's
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not natural at all like there may be people in your way and you're a bad person you kill
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them but the idea of desiring to kill huge numbers of people like that can only be supernatural
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it feels like and that's what the bible tells us is there's an outside force animals absolutely
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commit acts of genocide there are primate behaviors that fit this definition and it's
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basically the whole idea of how lion social organization works like i do think that there's
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a philosophical argument you can make about animals not being capable of understanding
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an act of genocide sure but things that would descriptively be described uh that's redundant
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but as genocide sure are in the animal kingdom it's so stupid to just say like we must be
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supernatural evil or whatever but that's that's where they are okay so there's a there's a
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bunch of wasps that uh lay that while you're still alive they lay their eggs inside of
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you and then you live and then the eggs hatch and then eat you alive from the inside out
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so you're awake and conscious as your insides are being eaten by another animal's offspring
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um that's just also out there in the normal world that's in the natural world yeah so
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i think it's not genocide no but it's weird it's freakier that i would be more i would
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be less freaked out by somebody being like we gotta kill everybody than somebody being
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like oh i'm gonna lay my eggs inside of your body there's like funguses that can take over
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bugs brains totally to the point where i saw an energy drink that said it had cordyceps
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in a no no no no no no no that's how they get you exactly predictive program i played
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last of us i'm not drinking this energy drink yeah it's not a chance fuck you jesus christ
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people right there's some strange stuff in the natural world that tucker's not accounting
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for um this is stupid yeah um so bring up the gay frogs thing sure because tucker's
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trying to whitewash and launder all of alex's greatest hits i was talking to somebody the
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other day who's not conservative who said to me off camera you know the chemicals in
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our water for example are changing the sex of frogs and i didn't want to be mean i don't
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want to be mean but i did say are you telling me they're turning the frogs gay and this
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person didn't get the reference at all and goes yeah that's basically right everything
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you've said about the chemical poisoning of the human body is now just kind of accepted
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like is it weird to see science catch up to you well i mean look what happened and i and
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i knew what they were doing this is like 15 years ago i did like an hour long analysis
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from south african university at a university in japan a university of i think rice so many
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universities at the university of berkeley in california that just a little bit of atrazine
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would bend the gender of almost all the frogs sterilize a lot of them and turn a large portion
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of them where they would try to have sex with males and confuse them so much in their development
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as embryos floating around in the creek or pond sure and so i did all that science then
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i said listen you did all that science gay people or something this is about chemicals
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in the water that turn the freaking frogs again went on to say and then their populations
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collapse and they die and the frogs are a microcosm of us well then every within two
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weeks every late night comedy show every one of them came out and did a monologue and attacked
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me and then it turned out later that they were being directed uh by major foundations
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and the cia they even later bragged oh yeah chuckie schumer we work with a body with him
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in a foundation they actually came to them with a script that said attack alex jones
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because they went ignore the hour of serious stuff he talked about make it a joke so their
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joke about frogs made it blow up even bigger in their face so there really never was that
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much controversy on the basis of the claim that alex was making those studies about atrazine
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were real he's just exaggerating them and applying them to things that didn't relate
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like saying that because it could make frogs change sex that the chemical could maybe do
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that to people alex screamed about how the water was a gay bomb and all kinds of shit
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desperately courting attention and then some people gave it to him generally by mocking
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him he's also fucking up his story here this was long ago and the whole thing about scripts
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and chuck schumer that's a narrative he has about covet and jimmy kimmel monologues he's
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just combining it all together because he knows that none of it's real and he has zero
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respect for the audience that he's speaking to yeah so he's just combining it all together
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who gives a shit was the cia behind the the conan's like uh puppet thing was that the
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reason he does the thing with his hips was that the cia came up with that the same guys
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who were running the art shows for the fbi fucking it's the harvard lampoon i knew it
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all along it goes all the way to the top it goes all the way to the middle um so alex
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i think miss calculates a little bit i think he wants to impress people with like imagined
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primary sources and it really felt while i was there like he was losing the audience
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a little bit sure it was it's been known forever and that's bertrand russell he wrote back
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in the 60s said we ought to have a world government that just drops hydrogen bombs on most of
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the populations because the too big a population will have wars we have to have a controlled
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nuclear war and that'll fix it and sounds like all this and he also went on to write
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a bunch of books you can go pull his quotes up and so i mean don't read the books they
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have uh all these top globalists were very honest about the 70s they used to have like
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paul ehrlich you can pull this up on twitter or anywhere x paul ehrlich goes on a tv show
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in 79 one of the big hollywood shows he goes listen we're working with the foundations
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and we're going to have every father figure be lazy and stupid and dumb and that'll break
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up the family and then the kids that do live will control them out of state but everybody
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else will abort the kids because there's too many people and we'll all be dead by 1987
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at current rates it's a malthusian none of it was true like al gore saying by 2017 all
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the ice caps would melt they're bigger than ever it's all lies they know it is but back
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then they were very honest about he was all over you know 60 minutes you name it oh yeah
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uh we're gonna destroy the family because the family creates people and too many people's
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bad they're public so almost everything i say is from these dirt bag scumbags i mean
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you go watch you go read the world economic forum they say no humans by 2045 only cyborgs
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so i think the audience was just kind of like come on man like what are we doing here right
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what are we doing here buddy you won't stop talking there is no point to like there's
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no uh time when you're like giving space to react there's nothing and you kind of just
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like wow you just keep saying things and people's names and and shit that's not real this feels
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more like a zoo than a show yeah if you're an adult and you're looking at this yeah you
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should be like this guy has problems yeah you shouldn't think like ah this guy's interesting
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he's saying some hip stuff that maybe i should learn about he should give you a vibe that
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like something's wrong here no i'm getting like because i'm trying to figure out what
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this is because it's not a show it feels like a big tent circus it feels like a it feels
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like a a freak show like they're they're wheeling in people that they keep in cages and they're
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like it's jack passobic the man who's afraid of pizza and then he's like that on the last
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show we had kid rock yeah exactly like this is here's alex jones tomorrow night we got
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rosanne this is wild yeah this is what how and you're not even getting the visual aspect
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of it where alex is looking off into the like not making high contact with tucker that makes
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sense staring into nowhere while he's talking about all these birch and russell sources
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and amazing yeah wow it's it's weird i mean i don't know other what are the words it's
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just it's fucking strange it is trash it's trash so i think alex uh he maybe is feeling
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a little bit of the like not getting responses because he's not giving a place for responses
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to happen sure sure and so he wants to sound really interesting and so he just talks about
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how globalists are creating aliens okay about aliens and absolutely stuff going on the globalists
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are making aliens by mixing humans i'm sorry animals and insects and plants and then they
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put them they they chestate them and use cow uteruses to grow them this is going on everywhere
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so it's like a breakaway whole civilization that's separate from us the globalists have
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with life extension technologies and cures to cancer and parkinson's but instead of giving
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us all the cures they're keeping that for themselves and they're just getting ready
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to wipe all us out so we don't even have access to that whether you think of it as moral or
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not whether you think of it as moral or not what i i don't i don't know so we got aliens
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and cows okay yeah we've talked about this a bit but are they if they're can you be an
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alien period if you are gestated and born from a terrestrial uh animal if so uh then
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so many existing animals that have been bred by yeah they're animal husbandry or aliens
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yeah yeah i i don't know i don't i don't know where the line is i think i think that's what
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i'm interested right now after listening to all of this i would like to know where the
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line between animal human hybrid alien and just regular animal i think i can give you
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a general sense okay um specialized dog breed sure totally fine okay because dogs and dogs
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and all this is all like yeah whatever all right grasshopper and dog okay it's weird
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the combination doesn't fit i mean but they can jump higher than pugs true probably healthier
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too maybe maybe grasshoppers have regenerative properties you tear off their legs too loud
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that's the problem with dog hoppers right too loud barking and making noise with their feet
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no get that shit out of here so i think people were interested by that sure aliens and cows
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yeah but also he just keeps talking and it's right great great great socially so uh jack
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posobik uh is still there i think he was supposed to babysit alex and keep him on track right and
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he is doing none of that sure he's doing nothing he's just sitting there passively while alex
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steamrolls everything they need a shock collar for him yes that's what you need you need a buzzer you
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need a shock collar you need something that will like be silent enough that but also noticeable
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enough or chase because chase actually thinks alex is cool yeah and so like if he was out on stage
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maybe alex would be playing to him as opposed to trying to avoid eye contact with jack and
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tucker he should be interviewing chat gpt is what he should be you should you should um so uh uh
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the uh whole epstein thing comes up sure right and uh jack posobik is there and he's like hey you
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know uh diddy he's basically epstein yeah let's talk about current events hey tucker you should
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get diddy on the show no it's very weird and so i used to think that you know we got to protect
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trump we got to keep him safe we got to keep him safe now i realize there's somebody else we got to
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keep safe we've got to keep diddy safe because that's the next guy they're going to go for this
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guy could tell us if you want to know how your government actually works that's the guy we got
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to talk to tucker i don't know maybe you have an in could you get diddy on the tour maybe
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no i'm serious i'm serious this is how they run the government though there's an epstein
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operation and there's a did he's the black epstein okay he's just the black epstein
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it's the black epstein um i don't think tucker wants to have diddy on the show and did he might
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be busy he might be in jail i think so uh but yeah it's such a just a strange idea for for jack
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to suggest and if i were if i were talker i would not be thrilled about this being suggested hey
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maybe you have an in with this guy why why why would i well i mean i'm sure i do yeah yeah i
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know him yeah yep yep probably defended him from cancel culture uh within the last six months sure
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he's shit so um alex talks about how with the epstein business and all these folks they're
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killing kids sure and it's a little uncomfortable and i'm going to play this clip and you'll hear
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a little bit of silence where the audience is yelling some stuff out uh-huh and i'll tell you
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what that is on the other side okay and that and i'll tell you they're not just raping kids
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at epstein island and stuff and i was i talked about it 15 years ago let's first talk about it
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they're killing kids ladies and gentlemen so so so they're only talking about 15 year old girls
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that they kill them so so can i can i just ask you to assess my my my last question to you alex
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jones is i'm not really sure how kamala harris became the democratic nominee so this is one of
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the more uncomfortable points of the night sure because people in the audience are yelling frazzle
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drip which is a reference to a fake uh snuff film that allegedly exists where hillary clinton
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and huma abidine are killing a child and like drinking its blood and all this shit sure it's
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a big q anon thing sure and i do think it was audible from the stage right like i think they
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could hear that and that threw off tucker's ability to ask the next question right and it was notable
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in the room right people yelling frazzle drip it uh it kind of was a harsh moment of like
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i think you're serious i think you're yelling that seriously yep um it was a bummer i i
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i desire record scratch sound effects when record record scratch moments happen
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it feels like this would be it would break a record i mean it's like a non-stop series of
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it felt like that in the in the moment yeah um it did feel like there was a potential for
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tucker not being able to grab the steering wheel yeah yeah whatever yeah he manages okay but
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there's those moments where you can hear somebody yelling some stuff out and that's what's going on
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and that's what's going on i think he's shaken by that because he realizes maybe how far some of
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these people are that are in the audience right who are yelling shit out right right right right
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i imagine okay so here's here's the screen here's the way this goes here's the way this goes all
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right somebody's shouting that out and then we uh we don't jump cut we smash cut to the heaven the
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pearly gates and god goes like i bet you're all wondering how we got here and then we and then
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the movie starts uh probably the same as 2001 beginning uh it starts with uh tucker seeing a
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picture of josh shapiro signing a bomb and getting really mad while he's at the park
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yep some shit jesus christ so i found most of the rest of alex's stuff just kind of not interesting
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honestly i'm shocked you found this interesting yeah i don't think the audience of our podcast
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necessarily would find much of it interesting sure a lot of it is just repetitious catchphrase
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shit that he does but i also didn't want to end on that sure so i have one more clip and it's
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just alex's closing thoughts uh as they exit great and you've got to change your values
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to where you don't care what the world says or what the system says you care to do what what
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the conscience that god gave you that guardian angel that you knows right there looking over
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your shoulder tells you to do and you've got to not be a coward and you've got to be strong
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and the minute you step across that point you don't even have courage anymore you're on a
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mission and you're not possessed by the holy spirit but you let it in and it's now driving
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and in control and now you got god behind you and nobody can stand against us if god's with us
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well that is a hopeful note and i think that's true and with that alex jones jack pesobek i'm
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proud to be friends with both of you good for you um i think that it was notable within the last
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like 10 15 minutes there were people just kind of trying to beat traffic yeah and leaving yeah um
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i thought alex's voice might give out yeah at a certain point because he was he was
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like i said he came in too hot yeah that's non-stop yelling yeah it doesn't feel like he
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was drinking a lot of water appropriately no no he was hydrating a little could have been
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tito you gotta go hard you gotta go hard on the water on the water because the alcohol is just
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gonna ruin your voice even more right yeah so uh the show wraps up we leave um and uh you know i'm
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gonna get a lift back to the hotel sure my hotel that i'm staying at and we're walking down the
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street um because you got to get a little ways from the arena before you call the ride no of
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course yeah and so we're walking and we stop uh me and amanda stop for a little bit and we hear
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a yell from the crowd that is still around the arena which is about a block over to the side
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yeah not very far away and it's like oh what's going on it must be the infowars mobile or
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whatever something the motorcade has come out really fast after the show okay they leave real
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fast gotcha and there's a big whoop from the crowd everyone's very excited to wave at alex
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as he drives by yeah and i realize they're coming in our direction and so i stand on the street
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i i am not behind a bunch of people i'm just standing there right as their motorcade drives
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by the first car i don't really see who's in there i'm not sure maybe alex's car second car drives by
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chase geyser in the passenger seat drives right by me might have been five six feet away from me
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jesus christ he was smiling like the happy like the cat that ate the canary he was having the time
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of his life i bet he was yeah god damn it there was somebody there were not all that many people
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on the street who had uh like we're watching the motorcade go by yeah but there was one person who
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was bowing at the cars and i thought that was really really sad um but yeah i was pretty close
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to chase geyser and my reaction to it was just kind of like i don't think i even wanted him to
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see me but i was shaking my head i think it was just an involuntary response just like this isn't
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this isn't how the world's supposed to work not even that it was just like come on no get out come
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on um so yeah i got to the hotel went back uh flew back the next day yep been processing it since
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yeah it kind of was stupid that's it that's all i really come away with sure like it just i didn't
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need to go sure i guess i'm glad i went and then i got to see those vibes yeah i got to feel
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something yeah um but the show sucked it wasn't a show tell that to the fucking singing impressionist
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fair enough he was giving his all fair enough yeah in fact i take it back yeah out of respect for him
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for him that was show business that was show business i take it back i take it back i thought
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yeah you're right i think twice during his set he referred to his own set as a las vegas quality
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g-rated entertainment god i love stand-up sometimes sometimes i just love comedy i just
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really do he was j harrisian yes yep he had the diamond of jays um but yeah i don't know i'm
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conflicted because i don't regret it but i also don't think i added that much to my life by going
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sure i can't i can't have been like i'm so glad i was there i got to see it in person sure
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it's yeah well it's not going to tell that i'm not going to tell the grandkids about it no no
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but i mean uh what's you know what's life yeah oh it's not you know going to the going to the
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fucking post office is an adventure if you have a better point of view on life than i do i guess
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i guess the one thing that sticks in the craw a little bit is i do think that alex's audience
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there's more than you might like to imagine sure there were a ton of infowars shirts there sure
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now granted i don't know how many people flew in from where or right you know whatever but like
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it's a you know he didn't sell the place out but he's not a non-existent draw yeah so that's
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something and that kind of is but then the other thing is that i think tucker is much more
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interesting than i think okay the i feel like i want to talk about him more after this interesting
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the idea that he wants the government to love him like a parent he's fucked up really weird
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it's really fucked up yeah and that people would cheer for that is even more fucked up and and i
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ask myself is that a consistent belief he holds is that something he was just feeling this night
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i i'm fascinated and i mean if you if you re if you reassess his entire career in the
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point of view of somebody who is always angling towards some adult male figures love
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uh i bet that probably checks out bill crystal uh that checks out bush
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probably so i i i don't know i'm i i'm tortured a little bit sure because on the one hand
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alex put on a better show but because i know so much about him he's boring yeah tucker
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kind of sucked and seemed weak but because he was clearly dealing with something that is
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is novel to me right i i found him more interesting right and jack is in a dead third
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yeah oh no he's on a he's on a hundred and fifty thousand dollar bounty hunt yeah he's
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also ran of this night wild he's below the singer i mean yeah i think he put himself there too
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yeah you gotta take some if you're if you're third build with uh fucking uh those two idiots
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if you're third build with alex jones you have to know that you're there to do a job yeah absolutely
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you're babysitting yeah weird it's just so weird
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i guess but i guess it's because people go there to feel together with other people yeah and they
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do not get that feeling so this is their church this is their mega church you know yeah it
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doesn't matter what these people are saying you're not gonna read the fucking book you don't care
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yeah i kind of feel like that's uh you know but but what matters is you're there with all these
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other people and all of them despite them also not reading the fucking book can all look at each
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other and go like we all read the book right and they'll all be like yeah of course we all read the
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book ironically it's being drawn together by the very human need for community which is something
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that tucker wants to take away from is says doesn't exist communities of people don't exist
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and yet the feeling of being in communion with people yeah is why you're there yeah that's dumb
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yeah anyway i might do more episodes about tucker's tour i don't know at least his like his
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intros yeah i don't know if i want to listen to any of the uh the interviews yeah i think they're
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probably stupid and mostly just his guests talking shit but these intros are weird and i think it
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might be something yeah value though the because he's he's always made it clear that he writes his
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own monologues blah blah blah but it's also clear from this that uh other people edited those
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monologues yeah yeah but they're they reflect a man who's dealing with something actually
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a man who's dealing with something actually oh my god sorry so we'll be back
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another episode but tell them what's a d we do it's alltrite.com yep uh we'll be back but
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until then i'm neo i'm the um dzx clark i am the mysterious professor oh yeah yeah and now here
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comes the sex robots andy in kansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time
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caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you
