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I have great respect for knowledge fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody!
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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Oh, well, my bright spot, Dan, is gonna, it was going to be tennis, because the US Open
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starts tomorrow.
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Sure.
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Or today when you're listening to this.
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So much tennis.
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It's so much, it's such great.
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We just got done with the Olympics.
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It's the last major of the year.
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It's gonna be great.
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Yeah.
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But I haven't spoken at all this year, I think, about Shohei Ohtani.
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Sure.
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And the man, the man is a god.
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He is not a man.
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He's at baseball.
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He's transcended, I mean, there's no words anymore for anything that's ever happened
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in a sport that is like this.
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This has never happened.
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It can't happen.
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It just can't.
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What's going on with that translator?
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I haven't kept up with that story.
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Oh, I believe he's just in jail now.
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Okay.
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I believe he's just in regular old prison.
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Sweet.
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Just doing all the, whoops, you had a serious gambling addiction and you ruined your life
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and stole-
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And it wasn't Ohtani's fault?
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No, of course not.
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Well, good.
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No.
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That is so funny.
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He navigated that scandal.
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I mean, it's just, and that's another part of it is like, he's the only person who is
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like, yeah, he's too busy hitting a ball.
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And throwing it.
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And throwing it.
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But now here's the thing, right?
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Can't throw the ball.
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He can't throw the ball this year.
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He's not a pitcher this year.
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He's not a pitcher this year.
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He's just a designated hitter.
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All he does is go up to bat and then hit.
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And he is going to probably win the National League MVP because he's the most valuable
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player who's only doing one thing.
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And he's also the best at the other thing that he does, but he's just doing this thing
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this year.
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And he's still going to win the MVP without doing that other thing.
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I mean, it's pretty remarkable.
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He's doing things.
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He's good at the thing.
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He's doing, so he just reached 40 home runs and 40 stolen bases.
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And that is for the best pitcher in the league.
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40 home runs and 40 stolen bases.
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Quite a few.
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Quite a few.
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And he's going to probably end the year maybe 50-50.
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The only baseball player in history ever to do that.
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So are we, is he on the juice?
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No.
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Are people suspecting this?
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Nope.
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This is, and I mean this, quite possibly the devil.
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Because if I was the devil, I would have gotten sick of all this sin and backroom deals and
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all that shit.
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I would have been like, hey, I sold that guy's soul and now he's really good at the guitar.
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What if I just played baseball?
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I tried to get into fiddle contests for a bit.
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It didn't work out.
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I did the whole thing.
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Trying to find myself.
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But baseball, individual sport.
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As long as you're a designated hitter.
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Exactly.
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See, that's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, it's a team sport in other contexts.
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In all other contexts except for the ones that the devil would be interested in.
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And he would play in LA.
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He's in LA, right?
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Yeah.
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He was in the LA for the Angels and then he's in the LA for the Dodgers.
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Of course the devil lives in LA.
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It all makes sense.
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I think he is the devil.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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I'll buy it.
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Yep.
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What's your right spot?
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I don't watch a lot of baseball so I'll accept your premise.
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To sum up, my bright spot is that the devil plays baseball.
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What's your bright spot?
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That's what I'm going to play on.
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So my bright spot, as promised, it's time to talk about the challenge.
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Hell yeah.
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Now that you have watched last week's episode, spoiler alert for it.
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What an episode.
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So great.
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A lot of shit going on.
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Yep.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if I actually want this to be my bright spot but I enjoyed it.
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It was just great.
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We didn't get to talk about it and we teased it at the beginning of the last episode.
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Yeah.
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It's just...
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Sad to see Leroy go first.
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I saw that coming a mile away.
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Leroy's actually not good at things.
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I think he's a very attractive man.
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Well built.
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Got all those muscles and stuff.
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Seems like he's got a great personality.
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He's such an awesome dude.
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Seems like a good guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's a great character on the show.
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Great father, I'm sure.
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All of that stuff.
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Not very coordinated.
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Just not a hand-eye coordination guy.
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I believe that some of my pre-season picks that I was enjoying and interested in seeing
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how they played out included Leroy and Nerise and they're both gone.
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They're both gone immediately.
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I have to rethink everything about how I'm approaching this season.
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Yeah.
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I miss Ed from Philly.
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Totally.
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I get you.
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Ed is great.
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Ed is great.
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It's good that Nerise is gone.
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As much as I love Nerise.
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But I think...
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Or it would have been good if Horacio was gone.
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The two of them together on the show.
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Not good.
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You weren't interested in seeing a love story blossom.
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They're sick of their making out all the goddamn time.
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They're free of each other talking about babies and now one of them can be a challenge monster.
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Exactly.
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And destroy everybody.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And the other one can cheat like they're going to do so they don't have to worry about it
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later on in two years whenever they've, you know, they're a challenge relationship.
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Cheat!
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So we got all the classics.
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Yep.
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We got a pole wrestle.
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We got a haul brawl.
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Oh yeah.
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That was one of the more embarrassing haul brawls in the history of haul brawls.
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What was happening when Olivia just decided to evoke to go back?
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I don't know.
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That was crazy!
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But I was watching it and I was thinking to myself.
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So the haul brawl, for those who have not watched the challenge, is a hallway, an artificially
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created hallway where you're supposed to run at each other and then one person comes out
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the other side and hits a bell and you get a point.
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Do you think they practice this?
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Because it's a classic game on the challenge.
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That's a good question.
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Do you think like at home or at their gym they have like a like a hall where they run
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down it?
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I want to ask you this question, all right?
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Do you think they practice any of these games, you know, like because American Ninja Warrior
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people build the whole course in their in their backyards and stuff.
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Yeah, and now like on Survivor it's becoming more common for people to 3D print the types
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of puzzles they use.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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But do you have a fake hallway?
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You get used to running down because I think that it's I think it's hard to run into somebody
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in a hallway.
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Sure.
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And I think it's also just hard to run down a hallway.
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Sure.
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You're not used to going that much of a straight line and gathering momentum.
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I think it would be tough.
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I think I think they must practice.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I remember because I played football when I was in the in the being a
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child years.
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And yeah, that was just like a regular thing that we did as a drill.
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Just run at each other and hit each other.
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And that's why my neck is great.
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But not not in a hallway.
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No, no, no, no.
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Not in a hallway.
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Although it was in some ways a mental hallway.
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Sure.
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I mean, you had the sled that you'd like run into.
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Sure, sure.
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But this was for another person.
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You don't have a hallway.
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No, no.
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Anyway, excited for this season and what it what it may hold.
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Yeah.
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So I'm not excited about this episode.
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Great.
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I made a big mistake.
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Yeah.
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What did we do?
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What do you mean?
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Starting the show?
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No.
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We're way we're years late on that one.
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Yeah, it's too late.
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Yeah.
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But what I what I have prepared for us today is a mistake.
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Okay.
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Jimmy Dore had Alex on.
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Oh, God damn it.
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Anyway, we'll talk about that.
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But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Okay.
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So first, I'm Rusty.
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I'm Audrey.
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I'm DZX.
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Clark W. Griswold.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an out policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, Alex B. Thank you so much.
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You're an out policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Dan Levin.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an out policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And Clyde the Wild Ride.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an out policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Drew Money 420 says, Happy birthday, Jimbo.
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Hope you stay sick as hell on account of that woke mind virus.
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Thank you so much.
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You're an out technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much.
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So Jimmy Dore was, we've talked about him a little bit in the past.
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Alex was on his show and it was embarrassing and a disaster.
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And he was in town in Chicago for the DNC.
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And he did a live show.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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He did a live show.
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Um, and it was called, uh, the, what, what is it?
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Rumble time with Jimmy.
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Oh my God.
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Uh, because it's on rumble and his first guest was Alex.
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He used to be a comic, you know, he used to just do standup comedy.
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We're going to get some good comedy on this.
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I disagree.
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We are.
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We're going to this, this hilarity.
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I was, um, not really prepared for what I saw.
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Yeah.
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Um, I think I might give him and his world a little more credit than they deserve.
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Yeah, that probably sounds right.
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Um, I think it, it's a bit, it's a bit more overtly like just using right wing talking
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points than I realized.
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Right.
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It's pandery in a way that I thought maybe he, because I don't watch a ton of his show,
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I thought maybe he was above that a little bit, but nah, I don't think so.
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So the panel is Jimmy, he's hosting, uh, Steph Zamorano.
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The miserable liberal, as she calls herself, uh, Ross Dobbler, who I have no idea who he
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is.
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Mike McCray.
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I have no idea who that is, but one of them is an impressionist, but you'll never know
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which one because we don't have the video.
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One of them might be doing an impression of the other.
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Exactly.
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They could be one guy.
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And then there's Kurt Metzger, of course.
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Sure.
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Comedian, Kurt Metzger, Jimmy introduces as Kurt Mexican and he's wearing a LGBT CIA shirt,
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which was my first, like, okay, this is no good.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah.
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T-shirt based humor should just disappear.
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If it's a good joke, I'll give it a pass, but this is a, that, that, uh, is a message.
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In real life, perhaps, but on a stage you're making the choice to inflict that upon others
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and I find it disgusting.
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So yeah, his show, it's live Chicago and it's interesting because this title rumble time
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with Jimmy Dore, it would suggest that maybe this is going to be a rumble.
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Like he's gonna specifically have guests on that he would have a fight with and that's
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where the entertainment's going to come from, but he gets along great with Alex.
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They've been on each other's show and Jimmy's such a dopey idiot that he just lets Alex
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lie to his face regularly.
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Doesn't matter.
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The name rumble time is not actually about fighting or conflict or ideas or anything.
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It's promotion for the streaming platform rumble, which I suspect he has some sort of
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a deal with.
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I get that rumble is supposed to be this like outsider platform and all that, but it still
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comes off kind of loser-y to name your show after it.
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Like the NBC news hour is named after NBC and that's fine because it's the network that's
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running it.
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But presumably the, with Jimmy, the point is supposed to be that the network isn't running
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this show and yet it's called rumble time and this seems a desperate, this seems like
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desperate behavior.
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It's like calling your show, your YouTube show, uh, YouTube time.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I was going to debut my new show.
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I hope Elon Musk likes me time, but, uh, apparently that's a loser thing to do.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I think some people have more or less called their shows that I think you're right.
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So, um, that's, that's where we're at.
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Um, and we're at rumble time.
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We're at rumble time and Alex is going to make an appearance.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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We're about 30 seconds away from starting.
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Should we just fucking start?
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Oh, Alex Jones will be here in about 10 minutes, so he's coming in on the zoom, he's coming
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in on the zoom.
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How's it going?
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Mike dude impression.
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Hey, you were supposed to introduce me as a Jeff bridges.
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I was.
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Yeah.
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No one told me that.
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I forgot to tell you.
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Okay.
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We'll do a rambling introduction.
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Yes.
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You know, this guy is cool.
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So Jeff bridges was on that white dudes for Kamala Harris called the fundraising call.
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That's why they're making fun of him because otherwise I don't know why Jeff bridges would
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be relevant.
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I no longer understand any references that these people make.
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And I don't think that this guy has a good Joseph Gordon Levitt or Josh Gad who are also
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on those calls.
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I don't know if he does a good impression of them, but you got Jeff bridges, but he's
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the dude.
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That's, I mean, I bet he can't sing.
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I've strongly doubt this guy has a, has the Gad voice.
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I don't know a whole lot about Gad.
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He's just musicals.
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He's got a fucking diamond in those, uh, in those pipes.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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Good to know.
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Maybe I'll have to check out some of his movies.
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You'll be fine.
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Okay.
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So, uh, uh, this is a kind of like, I get the instinct of like, uh, Hey, Alex will be
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here in 10 minutes.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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But it feels like giving that to the crowd pretty early of a we've got, uh, we've got
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this guy coming on.
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Who's exciting.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It feels unconfident.
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So, uh, we start off and Jimmy's basically doing a little bit of like a monologue up
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top.
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He's doing some jokes.
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That makes sense.
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It's a live show.
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We are officially rumble timing, right?
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We're on.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I got a thumbs up from Roy.
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Fantastic.
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Hey, hello, Chicago.
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Welcome to the first rumble time.
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It's already a party.
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We're having a great time.
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We already talked to a guy with cancer and we're here in Chicago.
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We're according to Democrats, the violent crime is declining.
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We were supposed to have another guy on the panel, but he got shot on the way over.
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So that's pretty classic late night monologue structure for a joke, you know, nothing wrong
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with that.
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Nothing too edgy or ambitious, but it follows the way you introduce a concept then negated
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in a slightly unexpected way.
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Saying someone on the panel couldn't make it because they got shot isn't the most unexpected
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twist, but at least it's the territory of how a comic would write a joke.
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The goal of a monologue joke like this is to lampoon what's being passed off as a sincere
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message.
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Like back when Domino's was saying, ah, we fucked up.
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Our pizza's better now.
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You might go on stage and say something like, they made their pizza better.
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They say that, but I called and ordered a large pepperoni and you know what showed
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up?
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A medium pie, no pepperoni, but a live pelican.
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You're creating a bizarre image to delight the audience and the point behind what you're
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saying is that they didn't make the pizza better.
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They're telling you they did, but it's a premise that you just blindly accept because of marketing.
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In this case though, the point Jimmy's trying to make is kind of not really true, which
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is that it's a lie that crime is down in Chicago.
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Yeah, yeah, no, it's down.
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I'm not sure what Democrats Jimmy is citing who are saying that violent crime is down,
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but the reality of this is actually a pretty complicated question.
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Data analyzed by the University of Chicago crime lab clearly shows that homicide is down
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year over year from 2021 to 22 to 23 and that non-fatal shootings have followed the same
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trajectory.
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If you look at broader data from the Chicago police department statistics, you can see
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that there is an increase in aggravated batteries and theft, 10% and 6% respectively at the
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time I'm preparing this episode, and these represent challenges, but the rhetoric of
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there's crime everywhere is it's aimed at appealing to be law and order type policies,
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which have a long history of trending toward right-wing interests and initiatives that
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lead that direction.
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We can look at the numbers and say that our approach to policing isn't necessarily working,
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and that's a fine position to hold, but the big attack about Chicago is that everyone's
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getting shot and killed, and Jimmy's joke is specifically that a member of the panel
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got shot, which is a crime that's down, so the premise is flawed.
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I mean, you know, it's hard to write a good joke about people getting shot.
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I suppose maybe if you were to punch up at the cops doing, what, like 25% of the shootings?
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But I think that that is supposed to be underneath it.
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I mean, obviously it's supposed to be a criticism of the system, not the people who are shooting
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people, I guess.
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I think it'd be funnier if you called them democrips.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Well, they do do a Jesse Fentura impression later.
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Always funnier.
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Always funnier to call them democrips and Republicans.
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I think that you're supposed to understand this as a criticism of the system, but the
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whole like Chicago is dangerous and full of crime thing is a bit lazy, and the framing
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of the joke is leading it in an intentional direction, and that is towards right-wing
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ideas about increased policing as opposed to different strategies and approaches towards
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policing that maybe would be more effective.
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I'm interested in that guy.
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That guy who's really wanting to be the guy screaming, oh, is it?
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That guy?
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I wasn't sure.
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That might've been Metzger.
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I'm not sure.
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I was going to say.
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Actual crime rates don't reflect how people feel about what crime rates are.
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Consistently, studies have shown that people overestimate the amount of crime that happens,
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generally because the news reports crimes and doesn't report a crime not happening.
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Our perceptions have an underlying bias towards assuming more crime regardless of what's actually
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happening.
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Jimmy is playing into reassuring that bias instead of challenging it, which I feel is
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antithetical to the image that you want to cultivate as a firebrand truth teller, and
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so I feel like the construction of this is meant in a way to exacerbate the feelings
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that lead towards right-wing views of policing as opposed to the alternative, which I think
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you could tweak this joke in a way to make it work as a more anti-authority thing, but
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I don't think it works.
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No.
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But, you know, it's like he's clearly got an audience that is already in on the joke.
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In Ultimate, really, they're just in on the rhythm of his language.
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It could've been anything.
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Blah-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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Da-da-da-da-da-da.
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Ha-ha-ha-ha.
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I think that they're more in on the right-winginess of it than I realize, and hearing the audience
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respond the way they do to the things that Jimmy's saying, and the things that Jimmy's
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saying, made me realize, like, oh, there's a whole lot of just the same right-wing grievance-kind-of-based
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shit.
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So here he expands on this shooting thing.
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Okay.
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You know, the Secret Service is in town this week.
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They had their work cut out for them this week, because when a shooting starts, they
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have to figure out if it's an assassination attempt, or just a robbery or a carjacking
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or a gang war, or a migrant squatter.
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So the inclusion of migrant squatter at the end of this list should tell you all you really
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need to know about how Jimmy is on board with the right-wing anti-immigrant hysteria.
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Putting that as the tag at the end of this list is a choice that's right at home on
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Rumble.
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Now, that list of crimes he mentions are assassination attempt, robbery, carjacking, gang war and
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migrant squatter.
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A migrant squatter isn't necessarily a crime, and robberies and carjackings don't necessarily
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include guns, but okay, we can work with this list.
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I'm not sure how many gang wars there have been in the past year, since I don't think
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that's a statistic that's well-kept, but robbery and motor vehicle theft are actually two of
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the categories where the rates have gone down in 2024.
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The last assassination attempt happened in rural Pennsylvania.
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Two of these crime categories have gone down.
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One is the plot of the Warriors, and the other is not a crime.
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So he's pandering.
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This is pandering to the Rumble audience.
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Yeah, because any bit about the Secret Service is going to have to wind up with counterfeiting.
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That's the joke of the Secret Service, is the inexplicability of them being tasked with
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protecting the president and also being like, hey, who's making fake money over here?
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That's where your bit goes, not like, because why would the Secret Service give a shit about
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a carjacking?
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Well, I mean, in terms of the counterfeiting, it makes total sense.
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Presidents are on money.
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Oh, that is a good point.
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You've got to protect the president at all costs.
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Right.
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It makes total sense.
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I don't know why you're confused.
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That's a good point.
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But Jimmy's construction of the joke is stupid and kind of belies a little bit of...
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It's not funny.
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That's not a funny joke construction.
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Breaks the rule of threes.
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The fifth tag is the worst one, because it doesn't even make any sense.
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And the audience clearly was trying to laugh after the fourth one.
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Yeah.
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It sounded hot.
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Yeah.
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Like you could hear at the beginning of the show, the audience is on board and ready for
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everything.
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So that response is probably a little bit lukewarm.
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On your second bit.
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Yeah.
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That's not good.
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So Nancy Pelosi, right?
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Sure.
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Here's a bit about her.
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Shit on her desk.
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Let's go.
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I don't know if this is true, but I heard if Biden wasn't going to drop out, that Nancy
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Pelosi threatened to 25th Amendment him and she was going to switch out his doctors with
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Matthew Perry's doctors.
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I don't know if you heard that.
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I started lubing up a hammer.
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Matthew Perry had a great life.
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He packs a lot of fun into those, whatever, 35 years or whatever.
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What the fuck is happening?
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He looked horrible.
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I just thought he looked bad for his age.
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That seems so mean for no reason.
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What in God's name is going on here?
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Matthew Perry had a really public struggle with drug addiction through his career.
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He was 54 years old when he died.
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And the story that Jimmy is riffing on is how ketamine dealers exploited his addiction
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for profit and have been charged in his death recently.
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Is Matthew Perry a shit lib?
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Was he part of planning the war in Ukraine?
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I have no idea why he's getting this kind of shit, but I think Kurt's little riff there
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in the middle should tell you a little bit of something.
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He's talking about Nancy Pelosi's husband being attacked by a right-wing, media-addicted
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idiot wielding a hammer.
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Lube up the hammer.
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Oh, okay.
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Talk about Nancy Pelosi.
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Gotcha.
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That makes more sense.
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Now I understood that part.
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I was like, okay, all right.
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Incidentally, that guy who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer is doing 30
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years in prison for that assault and 20 years of a concurrent sentence for attempted kidnapping,
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because that's what his plan was.
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He was sure that the 2020 election had been stolen, so he was going to kidnap Nancy Pelosi
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and hold her hostage to get the truth revealed.
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From a KQED news article about that dude's trial, quote, he told the jury he came across
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most of his newfound political ideas after listening to mostly right-wing political YouTubers
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for entire weekends at a time and a minimum of six hours per day on weekdays, including
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James Lindsay, Jimmy Dore, and Glenn Beck.
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If I were named in that trial as one of the radicalizing influences of the perpetrator,
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I think I might think it's a good idea to just keep it out of the riff catalog.
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Let's not go with Nancy Pelosi hammer jokes.
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Man, this is wild because I don't know what funny is anymore.
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Like I haven't been on stage for, or we've been on stage, but I haven't been on stage
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solo as a comic for a good four or five years, something like that.
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And this is trash.
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It's rough.
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I think people, I thought people were better.
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I thought people were good.
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I think that there's the, um, no, I mean, look, so here, here's where I'll get defensive.
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Sure.
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That's fair enough.
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The like, I am, uh, I'm Nancy Pelosi is like, you got to step down or else we'll replace
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your doctors with Matthew Perry's doctors.
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Sure.
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It has the structure of a joke.
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You know what I mean?
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Right.
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It has the bare bones that you need to understand.
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This is why he's making this joke.
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This is the, the, the, the w what's behind it, where your mind's supposed to go.
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I get it.
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It's competent as a joke in that sense.
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Sure.
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It's not funny.
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No, it's mean.
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Yeah.
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And he flounders with like, I just think he looks like shit for his age.
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This is what I'm saying, he doesn't, there's a shock value that I think he was hoping to
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get out of the like, uh, Matthew Perry's doctor reference.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just tasteful and kind of being right.
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Right.
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All right.
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Um, and he got a little bit of that, but then didn't know where to go with it.
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Yeah.
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I mean like this, but it's, what I'm saying is like just technical stuff and giving a
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fuck about what you're talking about.
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Like if you're going to do that bit, you know, like, Oh, Nancy Pelosi threatened to use the
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25th amendment and she hired Matthew Perry's doctors, you know, like she's not telling
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him anything.
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She's got that in her back pocket.
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So it's that kind of thing.
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Why not do, uh, um, like the threatened to use, uh, the 25th amendment if he couldn't
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pass a test by Matthew Perry's doctor, something like that.
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Maybe where it's not like, cause Matthew Perry becomes like a bud of this joke in a way that
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like he's a victim of these doctors.
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Exactly.
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It's mean.
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It's wild.
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Cause if you hire the doctors, then you're not, you're not saying like, Oh, it's Matthew
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Perry's fault.
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You're saying these are murder doctors instead of like, and now we're going to switch them
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out for Matthew Perry's.
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That makes it sound like it seems weird.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's fucking wrong, man.
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So what about, uh, what do you think about Tim walls?
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What do you think?
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Uh, um, our, our boy Tim wall, let's see what the worst bit of the world is.
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Did you, did you hear about this?
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Do you hear?
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He shook his wife's hand.
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Oh God.
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Oh God.
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Did you, did you see this?
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So when Tim walls was accepting his nomination to be vice president, he shook his wife's
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hand.
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Now I don't want to judge somebody, but even the male boxer from the Olympics was like,
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Hey, something's off about that guy.
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Do you think he has two balls hidden above his vagina?
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Even Kamala's Indian mother was saying I could have arranged a better marriage than that.
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So this is pretty shocking.
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Not because it's like edgy or anything, but because of how thin the facade has become.
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Yeah.
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That is wild.
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That's just, yeah.
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Look at that joke.
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What's happened to the real world is that walls shook his wife's hand, which isn't an
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affectionate enough display for door.
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Apparently.
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That's fine.
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But what I'm taking is that walls is maybe gay because he shook his wife's hand.
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And then as the punchline, Jimmy signals to the transphobic hysteria that broke out in
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the right wing about the Algerian boxer, uh, Iman Khalif.
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This there's a pretense here.
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Jimmy's just doing right wing grievance comedy.
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His opening monologue is hitting all of the hot button culture war issues that you might
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hear about on any of these right wing shows or all over social media.
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And I kind of struggled to see what makes this perspective any different.
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Like what does, what is he doing?
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That's any different.
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I, what I don't understand about it is because this is, this is the thing that I've noticed
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with this concept of like right wing comedy, uh, is like, they just say the thing that
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was on Fox news, but then go, eh, like that's it.
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It's the same words with a different tone.
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And people laugh because they're like, I remember hearing that from the Fox news guy, you know,
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and it's, I don't understand where the bit is.
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Well, I think, um, so Kamala's mom is Indian.
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Sometimes they're arranged marriages in Indian culture.
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That one's not terrible.
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That makes sense.
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Kamala's mom could have arranged a better marriage between Tim Walz, his wife and Tim
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Walz.
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Sure.
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Better partners for either of them because Tim Walz isn't affectionate enough because
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he shook her hand.
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See but that part doesn't make sense.
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Maybe he's a gay or a woman or something.
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I mean, cause you could, you can tighten it down and you can be like, Oh, they shook hands.
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Uh, probably because they are, uh, cold and bad or something, uh, Kamala's mom could have
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arranged a better marriage.
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That at least has the structure that makes sense like that.
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I have no idea where balls come in.
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Uh, and again, it's just like, I'm saying the mailbox or thing that you hear from the
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other places.
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So you laugh as though that's the joke.
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Yeah.
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It also just doesn't hit because like, uh, he shook his wife's hand, but he also like
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hugged her and kissed her and like Mike Pence already was weird.
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Like he already did kind of the standoffish cold with his wife thing.
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Like we already, like the last time around there was already this.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It just doesn't, it doesn't ring.
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It doesn't hit.
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Bad monologue joke.
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This is a thing that gets me is like, I might be a bad person because I will forgive a lot
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if the joke is good.
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The lucky thing about that is that I just don't have to forgive the right wing.
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They don't have good jokes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You can, you can make up a lot with you, uh, if there's a fair amount of craft and it's
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just not, it's not present.
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I've seen people be real pieces of shit in all different kinds of ways, but they were
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fucking funny, man.
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They were fucking funny.
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And this is not, this is not, no.
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So I realized at a certain point that what was going on was that Jimmy was doing his
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opening monologue and then he was, uh, sort of playing some clips from TikTok, uh, and
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uh, complaining about that.
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And I kind of felt like, isn't this what his show is?
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Right.
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Why is it rumble time?
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It's rumble time.
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Episode one.
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Uh, when this is just the kind of the same thing as a show, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, uh, the riff train is, uh, chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga
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chugging along because they found a clip of a person who's a doctor on TikTok saying that
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it's not necessarily a bad, if you're overweight, uh, it's maybe not the most important thing
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for your health.
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You can be healthy if you're overweight.
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And guess what?
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Not everybody has to be healthy.
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It is not a moral failure of some kind if they're, so anyway, they're all like, oh.
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Live your fucking life.
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They're very upset about this.
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And then I would say that the Riff train goes a little bit off the tracks.
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I think this doctor's making a killing off of Zempic, that's what I think.
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I think she's like a doctor who, I don't know, I don't know, anyway.
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Was this before the Paris Summer Osempics that we just had?
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I think so.
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Boo!
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Boo!
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Are we ready to go to our zoo?
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Not yet.
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Not yet?
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Okay.
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He'll give you a flash.
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He'll give me a flash when Alex is on?
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Okay, Alex Jones is stiffing us right now, we'll see what happens.
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It's okay, I have it coming, I kind of stiffed him once, anyway.
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Someone in the audience yells, we're here for you!
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That made me very sad.
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That is sad.
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Yeah.
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That is sad.
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Alex isn't on the zoo when he's supposed to, Riff train has totally derailed and come to
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a stop.
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Combined with Nevermind and the Summer Osempics.
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It's a pun.
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That is, that is tragic.
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Yeah, and the reassurance from the audience is nice, but it felt bad.
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No, no, no, I do not want reassurance from the audience, because that means I need assurance
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from the audience.
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That's the wrong need to have if you're on a stage.
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It's a bad place to be.
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I kind of, I agree, but I kind of think it's sweet for that person.
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Sure, oh yeah, I see what you're saying.
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But it's also indicative of things not being where they need to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Damning with faint praise doesn't do that justice.
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Yeah.
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So we get another TikTok clip that Jimmy is upset about.
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Jesus Christ.
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Another, another person on TikTok.
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I wish I was older, but somehow he's older than me and he's playing TikTok clips.
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Yes.
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Christ.
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And so this, this clip has to do with a woman who wanted some money from another parent.
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Sure.
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Because they had a play date and there were expenses.
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Okay.
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So this pisses Jimmy the fuck out of me.
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Some people saw this already.
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It sounds like some people saw this.
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So she's going to talk about play dates with her kids and well, buckle up.
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I didn't really normalize sending the other family money for play dates.
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So recently my daughter had a friend of her and I asked her mom for money and this is
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how it went.
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So after the play date, I texted her mom and I said, thanks for letting Jimmy play today.
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Please help out with your share of the expenses for the play date totaling $15 via them.
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Let's do it again sometime.
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So she wanted her, her friend to pay $15 cause she hosted her kid at a play date.
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And I don't know, can you imagine needing $15 this bad and not being addicted to crack?
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Isn't Jimmy supposed to be like really empathetic to the financial concerns of working people?
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Isn't he supposed to understand that economic pressures are serious right now and people
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are struggling to get through?
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Like why is he specifically allotting time on his show to mock someone who's just saying
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that it would be nice if parents share the expenses when their children hung out together?
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It's pretty implied that she's also saying that she would happily send this other parent
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$15 if her kid went over there and there were some kind of expenses.
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This really doesn't make sense as something that needs to be mocked.
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It's just some person on TikTok, so who cares?
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But even if you decide to care, the thing she's suggesting isn't that crazy.
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Maybe you believe that the host should always take on all expenses.
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That's a fine position to take, and I would have no problem with Jimmy arguing that.
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If he's like, it's your house, you pay for whatever when the kids come over.
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But it's such a weird angle for him to be like, how bad do you need $15 unless you're
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on crack?
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Right?
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Like what are you doing?
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I have needed $15 so bad in so many different reasons and so many different times in my
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life.
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Yeah.
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I know this shit that he's doing now is pretty lucrative and so like he's probably very disconnected
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from what that's like.
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Right.
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But mocking the idea of it is pretty fucking antithetical to what he's supposed to believe.
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That is fucking... I can't imagine not getting the idea that if somebody needs $15, that's
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a more important person than you.
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It's just mean too.
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It's not like this person did anything to him.
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It's just a random person from TikTok.
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It's the same thing with the Matthew Perry thing.
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This is mean.
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What?
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I think they go on to play more of this and there are some things that are kind of mockable
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about what she's claiming as expenses.
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Sure.
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So like she says a dollar for wear and tear on the couch, which is kind of bullshit.
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But then there's other things that are like things that were consumed and stuff like that.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Like you would want everyone to share expenses.
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It makes sense.
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It's not that weird.
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The thing that's mockable is some of the specifics of the expenses.
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But the premise itself is like you would start going down this road and then be like, eh,
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it's not worth it.
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Whatever fun you can get out of the wear and tear on the couch or whatever, that kind of
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idea.
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Right.
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You have to get there.
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Right.
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Because in order to get there, you have to mock the premise of people needing $15.
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Exactly.
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And they must be crackheads or else it's not okay to be poor.
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It's just weird.
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Right.
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I mean, I don't... Yeah.
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This is an unusual person with an unusual request.
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That's why you're watching it in the first place.
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You wouldn't be watching this TikTok.
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This TikTok wouldn't have come to your attention if it were a usual person.
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So that's already disqualifying towards you being like, why does this person... No, this
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is a very specific person.
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There's no need for you to generalize whatsoever.
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But even still, if you are going to generalize, what makes generalizations funny is when you
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are specific.
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That's how you get to that generalization without being just a dick who's like, hey,
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have you seen that this group of people does this?
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You go like, ah, this is a person who has $1 worth of wear and tear on her couch.
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What costs what for wear and tear?
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What if I came on her couch?
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How much does that cost me?
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I'll give you about 20 bucks for that.
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You know, that's-
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Right.
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They do get to the J.D. Vance of it all.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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You get there eventually.
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Yeah.
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And that is where there can be some fun, which is like line items on the invoice.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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I think, yeah, that like how much is wear and tear, that's a kind of fine territory
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for a joke.
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But in order to get there, you have to mock the premise of this person having a financial
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hardship.
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Right.
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And it's, I don't know.
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No, it doesn't make sense.
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It's not worth it.
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It doesn't make sense.
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No.
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So anyway, something else that doesn't make a whole lot of sense is Andrew Cuomo.
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They're complaining a lot about Andrew Cuomo.
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Are we dead?
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We're doing it.
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We get an impression.
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God damn it.
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I do, Jimmy.
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I remember that very well.
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I was going to be the next president of the United States but someone else had other plans.
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So he gave this speech and this is one of the most pandering, unbelievable, I'll display
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it for you.
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Let's enjoy it.
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And that as a New Yorker, I am a Muslim and as a New Yorker I am Jewish and as a New Yorker
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I am a refugee and as a New Yorker I am black.
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Oh no.
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You can't, you can't fucking say you're black.
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You could not do that as a rich white guy of privilege your whole life.
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The son of a governor.
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I am black.
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No, you can't say that.
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He's a black refugee, Jimmy, it's different.
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This is fun and all, but that was a speech that Cuomo gave in 2017 and it was at a press
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conference in response to Trump's attempt to bar people from seven Muslim majority countries
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from coming to the United States.
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That impression was fire though.
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I mean, hey, listen, if, if these guys are ready, I am also ready to dust off that Monica
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Lewinsky material, buddy.
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We're close.
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It's time.
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We are quite close.
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30 years, about time to bring it back.
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Jesus Christ.
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And the premise of this bit seems to be, oh, aren't the woke scolds going to be mad about
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this?
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But you're imagining people being mad about it to be mad about.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, it's a fairly innocuous sentiment to express.
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Like if you're a New Yorker, then it transcends other stuff.
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Right.
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There's a connection that we have despite differences because we're New Yorkers.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's like that scene in Spiderman.
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Yeah, totally.
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Yeah.
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It is so that he's just doing that.
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Are you mad at Spiderman?
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No, he's mad at the imaginary people who are mad about this.
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They won't let Cuomo say something like this.
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Fuck Cuomo.
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So I'm fine with that.
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What are we doing?
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Or the complaint is that it's pandery and maybe, but it's also not.
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It's also from 2017.
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It's a fucking speech from a politician.
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What do you expect?
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Hard hitting facts.
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Maybe.
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I think it's just basically fodder for the rift train.
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Oh God.
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Keep the rift train rolling.
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This is awful.
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And as a New Yorker, I am poor.
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All right.
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That's fair.
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That is fair.
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As a New Yorker, I am a bullshitter.
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Listen, your money doesn't go a long way in New York.
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I can tell you that.
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And as a New Yorker, I am homeless.
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That's true also.
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As a New Yorker, I am poor and homeless because my governor cut Medicaid for me.
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As a New Yorker, I am poor and homeless because my governor cut Medicaid funding right before
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a pandemic.
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No, I'm homeless because I got kicked out of the governor's mansion.
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And as a New Yorker, I am an elderly person that I killed.
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As a New Yorker, I stand on my yacht, flipping off poor people, fuck you.
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So they really made a meal out of this seven year old Cuomo clip, which seems relevant,
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but the larger issue I have is that Jimmy is so indignant there at the end about Cuomo
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mocking the poor from his yacht, but he just spent his own time on stage shitting on a
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random person on TikTok who suggested parents share the financial burdens of hosting play
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dates for their kids.
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He's literally mocking the idea of not having $15 to spare as something that only makes
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sense if you're on crack.
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He has no coherent position here.
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It's all just bluster and sure, shooting on Cuomo is fun and I have no interest in defending
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him, but Jimmy lacks a core here.
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There's no point to this.
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There's no point of view.
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They also seem to be mocking Cuomo from 2017 about decisions he made in 2020, which I guess
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is why it's important to pretend that this video is current and that's why you're upset
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about it.
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But I think it just maybe made the rounds on right wing social media.
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I just, what are those riffs, man?
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Y'all supposed to be funny.
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You're all supposed to have been doing this for a long time.
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Yep, I think there's just more anger maybe.
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I mean, it's hard to be funny.
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It's hard.
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I'm not going to be funny because I'm terrible, but I mean, this is just tragic.
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There's some problems.
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Jesus Christ.
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Thankfully business picks up about an hour in.
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Oh my God.
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An hour in?
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Alex was supposed to be there at 10 minutes.
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I know, but he shows up about an hour in.
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And so Jimmy kisses his ass a little bit in the introduction.
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Oh my God.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've come to that magical moment where our guest has arrived
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and everybody's excited, I'm sure.
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The most censored man in all of social media, the man who is, he is like Crescan in a soothsayer.
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Everything he says at some point comes true.
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He's about 10 and a half million times more accurate than CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, and New
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York Times.
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Let's hear it for the one and the only Alex Jones is here, ladies and gentlemen.
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Can you see me?
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Can you see me, brother?
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Well, I want to be on with you, but...
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Alex, can you turn on your video?
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Do you know how to do...
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I've been trying to connect for a while, but I'm too stupid.
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You know, like you said, I make all the predictions, but I can't seem to do that.
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I've been trying to do it here for about 10 minutes.
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Sorry I'm late.
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Can you turn Alex on the monitor?
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Because I can't hear him.
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Can you turn him on?
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Here he is.
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All right.
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My bad.
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You got me.
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I missed on.
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My bad.
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All right.
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Here he is.
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There he is.
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What a build up you gave me.
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It's very...
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Nice to be here.
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Yeah, so we got Rex for a second, and then Alex is sort of choppy, cutting in and out,
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but he's there.
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They got him.
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Oh boy.
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They got him.
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The soothsayer.
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I think being on a screen on stage is my nightmare, you know?
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Like that combination of being trapped in a weird little room by yourself and the pressure
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of trying to make a large group of people laugh, who you will then not receive the laughs
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from?
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That's awful.
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Yeah, that's awful.
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Yeah, but apparently, Alex spent all his travel budget on going to California to pretend to
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cover Bohemian Grove, so he couldn't come to Chicago for the DNC.
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Yeah, there is that.
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So yeah, that's nightmarish.
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I agree with you.
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And also, I don't know how to deal with the way that Jimmy's introducing him.
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Is that a joke?
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What is Rumble time?
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I don't know.
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Is the joke supposed to be that Alex is, like we're saying he's 10 million times more right
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than all of these other places, because you're supposed to understand that he's not.
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But I don't think that's the case.
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No, I mean, hyperbole is generally, I like to engage in hyperbole in order to demonstrate
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the opposite of something being true.
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Right.
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Otherwise I would just say an accurate thing.
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Otherwise, you know, it's a waste of everybody's time.
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In this case, I think it's hyperbole meant to just be like, you're supposed to believe
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he's 10 times more accurate than the...
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Right.
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I don't know, man.
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Oh, man.
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It's strange.
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Jesus.
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So here's where we start with their little interview session.
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Okay.
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I wanted to ask, I wanted to get your take.
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You know, I just saw the new released body cam from Trump's assassination attempt.
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And did you see that where the one police officer was saying, aren't we all on the same
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frequency?
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And they warned you, there was a guy up here, how come nobody did anything?
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Let me just get your take on all that.
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What do you think actually happened at Trump's assassination?
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Well, it was 100% a total stand down on record.
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We know that now you have all these coincidences lining up like this.
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You've had the deep state openly saying they want to kill Trump.
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And you know, the fact is, they're patchy failed.
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So they are just in complete and absolute total panic mode right now and just don't
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know what to do.
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But yeah, I mean, you added all the others.
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You have the Secret Service deputy head, who's now the head, and it turns out was in charge
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of never sending the actual security team that actually commanded controls to the Secret
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Service and the police.
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So they didn't send the brains to the operation.
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And then they left the roof completely open, he was running around for 90 minutes.
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So I guess since Jimmy introduced Alex the way he did, he must really want his audience
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to view everything he says as accurate.
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Alex has always proven right about everything and is a psychic, the most trustworthy source
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for information around.
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In the context of this introduction, unless you take it as a joke, every question could
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basically be rephrased as, tell my gathered followers the secrets about this topic.
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If you're establishing Alex the way that Jimmy did in the intro, aren't you kind of stupid
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if you then disagree with anything he says?
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It has to be that.
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Like, I get it.
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It's fun to pretend that Alex is some kind of a prophet, but you know if you sign on
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to this premise, you're signing on to theocratic end times fascism, right?
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I mean, like, this is what you're endorsing.
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And yeah, the secret service wasn't on the same radios as the local police, it turns
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out.
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It's a fuckup that's been reported on where the local police offered radios for the secret
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service to pick up, but they failed to do so.
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It's unclear if this is something that's happened before but has never been an issue until now,
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or if it's a huge anomaly, but it's not the smoking gun that this whole thing was a setup,
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the way that Alex and Jimmy are presenting it as.
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Like I was reading an article about it and I'm like, oh yeah, that makes total sense.
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It's like, you can't just let there be one radio band that everything is on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because then everybody can hear it.
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Yeah.
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It's like, oh wait, that makes total sense.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's like a super special encrypted radio frequency.
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And yeah, you can't just let anyone into one.
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It's much more complicated than it appears to be, but if you just look at it from a really
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superficial level, it's like, ah, why weren't they all in the same little hole?
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I have a question.
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Is the comedy portion over or was it always supposed to be never this?
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Do you know what I mean?
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What is this show supposed to be?
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I don't know.
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I mean, I obviously don't think that the beginning comedy portion was not going to happen.
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I think maybe most of that was supposed to happen after Alex because they do get back
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to that after he leaves.
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But I think, I don't know.
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I don't know, man.
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Yeah.
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So this is-
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This is an interview segment for sure.
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Yeah.
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So this is our just totally straight faced interview segment, but we've been funny and
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derogatory towards all these people.
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So we've got that context.
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Now we've got Alex fucking Jones there, which to me is like, there's only one way to combine
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those two, which is to say that we're going to make fun of Alex Jones.
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It could be.
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I mean, it would be a way to go about it.
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Another way to go about it would be get Alex's take on how ugly Matthew Perry was.
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Get Alex in on the beating up people unnecessarily.
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Oh my God.
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Oh God.
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No, that's the last thing we need more riffing.
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No, I think it's, hey, this is an interesting guy.
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It'll excite this live audience.
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Where are we?
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Chicago.
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No, I mean, where are we in Chicago?
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What's the venue?
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I don't remember.
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Fair enough.
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It's on Halstead somewhere.
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Oh, okay.
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I don't remember.
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Fair enough.
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So, but I think it is just a straight up interview.
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So this guy was totally protected.
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He was trained at a major Homeland security training facility.
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The train's on land security.
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He was there 40 plus times.
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So yeah, I mean, when you have all these coincidences all lining up the same way, they're not a
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coincidence.
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And so what do you make that they already burned his body?
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Yeah, they cremated his body and notice there were no press conferences.
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So like the whole thing here is laundering Alex as a prophet and that he's right about
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stuff and taking him seriously.
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Like if you're one of Jimmy's fans and you hear Alex say the shooter was trained at a
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Homeland security facility, you've already been told by Jimmy that this dude sees the
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future and he's always proven right about stuff.
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So this must be a big deal.
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I bet you'd imagine some kind of documents that Alex has about the program where this
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guy was trained at a military installation or some kind of base.
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He wouldn't just make this kind of claim about meaningless pieces of trivia, but that's exactly
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what he's doing.
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Being trained at a Homeland security facility is a claim that Alex can back up by showing
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that the shooter went to the Clarion Sportsman Club, that 2000 plus member shooting range,
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which also has law enforcement agencies use it for shooting training from time to time.
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This is the most inconsequential piece of evidence that's being used to make a very
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unsupported claim.
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And Jimmy has more or less insisted that the audience should blindly accept Alex's version
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of the story.
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Alex's body, the shooter, was turned over to his family, as pretty much always the case
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with these sorts of things.
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The police and FBI collected and processed the evidence they needed and then 10 days
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later he was released to the family so they could do what they needed to do for themselves.
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This is all normal, but the whole thing that Alex and Jimmy are responding to is based
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on Representative Clay Higgins deciding he should go to Butler and poke around the site
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and play detective for himself.
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When he found that the body was gone, he made a big stink about it and idiots like Alex
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and Jimmy are turning it into proof of a cover up.
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This is nonsense.
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So his body was cremated because the family decided to because the FBI released the body
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to the family.
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It's nonsense.
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I mean, so what they would prefer is that he was buried so then they could exhume him,
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presumably, and that would be dramatic, right?
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I mean, I guess they'd probably find a way to have a problem with that, too, because
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the family probably wouldn't allow them to.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So why?
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Because it's a cover up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Everything that every little piece of detail that conforms to your conclusion is evidence
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and it's exaggerated into being smoking guns.
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Yeah.
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And anything that is inconvenient is just proof of how elaborate the cover up is.
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Yeah.
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Like when you can never, ever prove anything is a false flag like Alex, that's just a testament
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to how good they are at covering up false flags.
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It's perfect.
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It's a great system.
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Like they know that like bodies decompose, you know, like, I mean, sure.
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But how long do you keep it in the freezer?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, how long do you get to keep the body in the freezer before you're like, hey, we
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got the attempted assassin guy.
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Are we going to send him home at a certain point in time?
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Weeks later, if somebody decides that they want to do their own little investigation,
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that's not how that works.
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You'll Poirot this thing.
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No.
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Then it turns out any time before that is too early.
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That seems crazy to me.
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It does.
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Just what do you want?
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I want you to freeze this body.
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So anybody at any point in time in the future can randomly go, ha ha, the fingernail.
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Well, because everyone is entitled to do their own investigation of every crime.
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That's true.
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Obviously we all know that I've seen a law and order.
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It's wild.
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That is crazy.
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So the topic of Biden comes up, of course.
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Sure.
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And so Jimmy, Jimmy asks him a little question.
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So do you have any inside info on what happened with Biden and his reported medical emergency
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in Las Vegas?
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Well, I was told, well, Charlie Kirk told the people that I know, like the day it happened
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that a medical emergency and then weeks later it came out that there was a medical emergency
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and then Biden was flown to Delaware for seven, eight days was seen.
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And then now he was close.
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He's covered her butt and said, well, I saw the letter from my, the resignation didn't
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look like it was from him.
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Well, it didn't even have a presidential seal.
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The signature was standing.
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So it looks to me, I mean, speculate that they didn't get him the drugs normally on
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or they slipped being something we had a real medical emergency areas, medical problems.
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And then they just basically held him until he agreed.
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Then he showed up seven days later, he kind of shuffled on to Air Force One in Delaware
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and they said, well, why did you stand down?
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You know, why are you giving up?
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He said he didn't even agree to it.
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And now he's on interviews and said he's basically forced out by the Democratic Party.
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So I mean, we can talk about the fact that if you're still in the election, you can still
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debate that.
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You can't debate that Kamala Harris got as many votes in the primary as Ronald McDonald.
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So Jimmy asking the question like, hey, what are your inside secret info about this?
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Like the question presupposes that he's willing to believe that Alex has some of that information,
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which is already starting off on the wrong foot.
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You shouldn't even trust Alex to accurately convey publicly available information, let
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alone mysterious behind the scenes gossip that he's probably just getting from social
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media.
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So on July 5th, noted bigot and loser Laura Loomer posted on Twitter that Biden had a
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medical emergency on board Air Force One.
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There's no evidence that this was the case, but it was exciting.
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So people reposted it and it went around.
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People denied Loomer's bullshit, but she shot back that it was all true because Biden was
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canceling events mysteriously.
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And the event that he canceled was a July 7th National Education Association staff union
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meeting, which he decided not to attend after the union announced it was going on strike.
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It was solidarity and not crossing a picket line that canceled that event, not this medical
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emergency.
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Biden still did other events in the same timeframe, but it doesn't matter.
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The narrative stuck with the right wing dipshit crowd and they all kind of just ran with it.
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There are some real problems with Alex's timeline that he's presenting here.
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So this was on July 5th when this was supposed to have happened, which is easy to get conflated
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with July 17th, which is when Biden announced that he tested positive for COVID, which is
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also easy to get mixed up with July 21st, which is when he announced he was stepping
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aside in the 2024 race.
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In order for Alex's premise to have any plausibility, they would need to have been drugging up and
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holding Biden hostage from the 5th to about the 21st, demanding that he step down or else.
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And that didn't happen.
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There was a NATO summit between those times.
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That whole thing that he was there for.
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Yeah.
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And Alex covered on his fucking show.
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Also, Alex references that Pelosi said a particular letter didn't sound like Biden.
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He wants you to think that she was talking about the letter where Biden dropped out of
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the race.
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In the real world, Pelosi was talking about a prior statement that Biden had released
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signaling his intention to stay in the race.
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That's the one that she said didn't sound like him.
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Alex is playing a little bit of sleight of hand here.
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He's mixing up these details because what really happened is meaningless to him.
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Jimmy is encouraging his free thinking oriented audience to engage with reality the same way
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Alex does, which is pretty sad and not connected to anything.
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Yeah.
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It's fun.
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I don't understand.
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I suppose I just don't understand.
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Like, I mean, OK, maybe it's just like we got to fill content somehow, you know, but
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like Biden's what are we doing?
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What are we doing still?
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What are they doing talking about Biden?
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Like, you're wasting all of your time and energy because they're afraid that there's
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a decent chance that Kamala will win and they need to invalidate her presidency somehow.
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Sure.
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And they're trying everything.
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They're trying the she wasn't born here, but stuff.
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Sure.
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They're trying.
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She stole the nomination.
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They.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, like, who cares?
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Exactly.
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For for them, like they're talking to they're not talking to me.
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They're talking to their crowd.
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No, they're pre they're laying track in advance for bullshit, trivial Senate inquiries down
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the road.
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If Harris wins in order to clog up the system and make sure that nothing gets done.
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That's the kind of thing that these narratives serve.
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Sure.
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I think.
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Gotcha.
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All right.
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I'm not entirely sure what Jimmy's interest in all this is outside of like Alex is a lightning
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rod for attention.
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Yeah, I'll get some of that.
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I mean, did people go to this venue to hear an interview with Alex like they knew one
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person yelled.
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We came to see you.
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So I assume they came to see Jimmy Dore.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't I just don't understand, like, tell me I understand it if there's a good
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story like Biden's actually been dead for two years.
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This is a clone.
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He's plumping like any number of different exciting things.
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You know, if there's a health emergency, that's when they switched him out for the for the
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real one or the not real one or whatever.
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Well, Metzger seems to think that there is a couple of things.
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That's great.
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That's fine.
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Because then I guess it's just a fun thing to talk about.
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But if it's like an attack on the political system, like you're late, it is late.
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You're a month late, man.
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I think I think that I don't I think that you could almost take a really, really cynical
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approach to Jimmy having Alex on the show.
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Yeah.
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I think that, you know, obviously when Alex has been on Rogan or when he's done Tucker
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Carlson, you know, you do see a huge boost in these kinds of numbers.
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And I think the first episode of Rumble, right.
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And I think that you probably have an expectation that, like, OK, this will work well in my
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advantage.
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Right.
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And then Alex, like, it's obvious what his agenda is.
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Right.
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So I think that they're using each other.
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Kind of.
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Right.
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I just man, I wish that their agenda was similar to ours in so far as it should be to put on
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a good show.
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Yeah, they didn't do that.
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They don't feel like it doesn't feel like they're trying.
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No, it's it's not a good show.
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But there's a there's the appearance of trying to make some agenda overlap.
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Sure.
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And I think that that's where I find any kind of interestingness.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because Jimmy does have this brand of like, I'm attacking from the left or whatever.
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I guess.
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But he's not.
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No.
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He's very much not.
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No.
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His co-host is sitting there in an LGBT CIA shirt.
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Yeah.
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They're making transphobic jokes.
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They're talking everything is incredibly about exclusion of folks.
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Yeah.
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There's beating up on people for their poverty.
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Like this is not a politics that I that I associate with the left at all.
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But there isn't there is a feeling of that is where he's supposed to be coming from.
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Right.
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And so I think that there's there's an attempt at it.
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It's very dissonant.
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It's just wild because they're just regular as 1950s racists.
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I don't understand.
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I mean, I feel bad for the people who wanted to go see a show.
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I think they got what they wanted.
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You're probably right.
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So there was there's a couple of moments that I think are really interesting that transcend
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how stupid both of these people are and have done this conversation.
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Yeah.
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And this is one of them.
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And it's Jimmy asking Alex, hey, Trump didn't do any of the shit that you wanted him to
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do.
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Right.
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So you support him.
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Right.
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Do you actually think he's going to do any of the shit that you want him to do?
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Good question.
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Right.
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When Trump actually was president, it seems to me he didn't do many of the things he said
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he was going to do.
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He didn't give everybody health care.
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He said he would.
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He didn't bring back jobs to America like he said he would.
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He didn't drain the swamp.
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In fact, what he did was he put them all in his goddamn cabinet.
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Right.
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So any he didn't pardon Snowden.
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He didn't pardon Julian Assange.
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And he didn't release the JFK files and he didn't lock up Hillary Clinton or prosecute
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any of those people.
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He didn't do anything, he said.
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So what do you think is if he becomes president?
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Do you think that he's going to do any of those things in his second term?
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Look, I'm not giving Trump a pass.
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Yes, you are.
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He's not from the washing machine.
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He was open about how as a major real estate owner, he gave money to both parties and he
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was very, very ignorant and naive when he came in that these politicians and politicos
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lied to him and said that they were going to be loyal and do what he wanted, that they
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were actually that.
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So he pulled from the system.
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And I mean, I think now he's going to be different.
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But certainly Trump has major blind spots.
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He supported Operation Warp Speed, the poison shots and all the rest of it.
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So I'm not I don't think Trump is some some panacea here.
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But permanent Washington, the Republican and Democrat establishment does not like Trump
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because he's an outsider.
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You know, Nixon had big problems, but the system got rid of him because he tried to
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be president.
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And so the primary bureaucracy doesn't like presidents, they're actually presidents.
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They like puppets, you know, like a Biden who doesn't even know what planet he's on.
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So they can do whatever they want and then just use a front man, you know, coming in
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the suit as a placeholder.
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Not Kamala Harris is a perfect example of that.
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I don't think Trump worships Trump.
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I didn't believe the whole Q thing that he was invincible and there's all these good
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guys in government.
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And I think we're in the latter stage of the decay of an empire right now.
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And I do think Trump is better on cutting back on war than the Democrats and the neo
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con.
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So because of that, I overall support Trump.
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So you can see how Alex engages differently with different audiences.
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I think he has enough instincts and not enough apple juice in him to know that if he started
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rambling about how the literal devil is trying to terraform the world so his demonic minions
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can breathe in a carbonless atmosphere and how Trump will save the world by burning more
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fossil fuels and polluting more, the audience is probably going to think he's an insane
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idiot.
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So he moderates his image to become more acceptable and in doing so, he has to take on the mantle
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of a lesser of two evils guy.
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This is the guy Jimmy wants to sell to the audience too.
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So he doesn't mind Alex lying to the audience's face or quite honestly, Jimmy probably has
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no idea what Alex actually believes.
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More likely, Alex knows that the version of himself Jimmy wants to be there, he knows
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what that is and he's being that because this shit's a game.
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And sure, Trump didn't do a lot of that stuff, but you're a goddamn idiot if you're just
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sitting there trying to pretend Trump didn't do anything in his term.
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He may not have done all the things that he did to keep the dumb dumbs chanting and clapping
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on the campaign trail, but he definitely appointed three unacceptable Supreme Court justices who
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overturned Roe v. Wade, along with countless other decisions they've made and will make
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that roll back all kinds of civil protections Jimmy's supposed to care so much about, most
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that play into the advantage of corporations, which Jimmy is supposed to be opposed to.
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Jimmy is invested in making Trump out to be just another politician because that's an
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improvement in his image.
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Treating Trump like a threat to all our public safety makes him a pretty much unsellable
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candidate which sucks for him.
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The whole brand is shitting on Democrats and pretending to attack them from the left, but
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with right-wing positions.
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So the thing that the Democrats are fighting can't possibly be something that you actually
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need to fight too.
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It has to just be an illusion, just another politician with big promises that doesn't
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do anything.
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With Trump, for most of Jimmy's audience, that's a comforting thought.
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With Harris and the Democrats, the audience fears that they would just be another normal
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politician.
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They would say the right things and inspire hope that things could be better and then
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just be another establishment hack.
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With Trump, the fear is that he's not.
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The fear is that he means what he's saying and will try to assert dictatorial-type powers.
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By lambasting Trump as just another politician, Jimmy's actually doing amazing PR work for
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Trump among this kind of disaffected, pretending to be left-wing audience.
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Because it's like, okay, yeah, on this one side we have the things that we want to hear
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and the disappointment of all those things not magically happening.
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On this side, we have a normal politician would be like, ah, he's just talking shit
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about all the stuff that strips people of rights and is all scary.
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Yeah.
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I'm just, I'm blown away.
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I have no idea where everybody is coming from here.
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I don't know who's, what is everybody, you know, like I want to know what people want
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out of this.
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Like if Jimmy Dore is trying to launder Alex, right, what does he want?
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He wants like numbers or whatever.
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Yeah.
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I guess.
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So that's why you have Alex on.
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Alex wants to get some of Jimmy Dore's audience.
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And create a theocracy, basically all political motion towards that while selling pills.
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Sure, sure.
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Yeah.
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But what is up with these people, man?
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What are they up to?
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I think that a lot of them probably have some positions that aren't well represented by
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some parties.
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Sure.
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And some of them are right-winger than they realize, probably.
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Yeah.
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But I also think that what is going on here, the essential dynamic that I find interesting
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is that you have the same, I think the motivations come from the same place as a lot of the media.
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Sure.
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You know, a lot of the media is invested in making a horse race out of the presidency.
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Absolutely.
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And the election because, you know, you're selling a product.
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Yeah.
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They're going to work hard to make Trump palatable for us.
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Right.
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As much as some of the race is fairly close, it will be closer in the eyes of the media
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because that is in their best interest for ratings, all kinds of things.
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Totally.
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I've seen this play out over and over again when Trump should be dealt with in a way that
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is much harsher.
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Yep.
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The reality of what he does and how he behaves, the things he says are unacceptable within
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this realm.
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And the fact that he is even treated as a viable person who people should be rallying
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behind is the bias.
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This is the same thing, I think, with Jimmy.
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Making Trump just another politician is a way to make it closer to a horse race between
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these two options.
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They're both bad in the same way as opposed to they're both viable alternatives to each
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other in the media because otherwise, what is the content you're going to make?
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You know, you have to make there be some sort of tension.
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And the only way to do that is to make Trump a viable option, and Trump's a viable option
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if everybody's shit.
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Yeah, you know, I think maybe we gave them too much of a pass in 2016 because it was
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like, for most of us, it was the first time we had experienced this level of Nazi washing?
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I don't know what to tell you.
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But I mean, for them to do it now, that's egregious shit.
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That is truly egregious.
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Yeah, and to play this game that Alex is trying to play with like, oh, I just kind of, you
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know, on a balance, I think he's less likely to make war.
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Yeah.
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So it would be insulting if you're Jimmy to accept that, except for he doesn't care.
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Yeah, I think one thing that is amazing about Alex is that it is through having no respect
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for Alex, and hating him, that I have learned to have no respect for everybody else in the
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media too, and hate them as well.
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Yeah, I guess.
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He's got an amazing ability to point out how idiotic everybody else is.
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He does, he is a teachable example about a lot of problems that exist in many places.
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It is unfortunate.
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So obviously, these folks, Jimmy's audience, are quite anti-Israel, and some of them are
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anti-Israel for understandable reasons, and some of them are not.
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But either way, this is a quite anti-Israel audience.
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Yeah, I imagine that would be the intersection.
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There's, I very strongly doubt that there are people there who are like, let's go!
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is disappointed with the way that Trump has behaved on this issue.
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Sure.
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Yeah, I'm disappointed in Trump and his carte blanche support of Israel.
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I'm never an anti-Israel guy.
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I mean, I think it's just another corrupt government.
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And I certainly don't support Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran.
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I mean, it's all just, you know, terrible.
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It's like, just ask me what porta potty I want to eat.
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If I'm showing 20 porta potties, which one do you want to choose, I don't like any of
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them.
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Maybe use an analogy like that, but Trump's slavish support of Netanyahu is dangerous.
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And people say, well, wait, Alex is a big Israel supporter, but he also has criticized
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Israel.
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No, I'm just not an anti-Israel guy.
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I was thinking I'm not anti-America, and I don't like the corrupt government you've got.
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I think Trump's better on Ukraine, but he has been slavish on this situation with the
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ongoing bombing of Gaza.
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So I mean, I've been against that from day one.
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I mean, I said Israel can carte blanche the whole place and maybe win, but they're going
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to disappear in victory because they're going to lose in public opinion.
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That's weird.
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So it makes sense why the audience might have applauded Alex expressing disappointment with
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Trump's support of Israel, but it would be really helpful for Jimmy to ask a follow-up
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question here about why he's disappointed.
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Alex doesn't care at all about the Palestinian people, which I would assume is a concern
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that a lot of the people who are applauding have.
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You would assume.
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Alex's problem is that it'll bring immigrants here who scare him.
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Further, Alex realizes that the killing of civilians in Gaza looks really bad and people
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don't like it.
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So the PR of Trump wanting more of it is not good for Trump.
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These are the fundamental realities of Alex's position, which I think Jimmy's audience might
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be less quick to applaud, but I might have them wrong because I didn't think that a lot
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of this other stuff would be what his show is.
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I'm blown away.
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Yeah.
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I'm blown away.
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So maybe I'm too idealistic.
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The idea of allowing somebody to be like, ah, you see, the problem is the optics are
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bad.
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That's beautiful.
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You could carpet bomb the whole place and win, but then people wouldn't like you.
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It just doesn't get better than that.
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Because I think that fundamentally, Alex would be totally fine with an extermination of a
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people if there wasn't consequences like immigration.
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Yeah, 100%.
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I mean, why else?
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Yeah.
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That's something that comes through in his comments.
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So Jimmy wants to know about, we're going to have another COVID, we're doing COVID again.
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Oh my God.
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Well, Alex, I wanted to ask you, do you have any inside info?
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They're ramping up their fear mongering again about COVID and monkey pox.
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So do you have any other insight on any of the incoming deep state plans that we're in
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for?
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This is a bit, right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I do because they always telegraph what they're doing beforehand.
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And so they said, we'll have another pandemic.
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So they're trying bird flu and monkey pox, any amount of fear they can for control.
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They want to pass the U.N. treaty and take control of our bodies and all the rest of
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it, and as bad as Trump was on COVID, he's been better on saying he should have a right
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to not take the shots and he was against the lockdowns once we got in the middle of it.
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But yeah, I mean, so much of the inside info is just watching the establishment corporate
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media pre-program was coming.
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So I don't, I mean, if it's not a bit, Jimmy's coming off like a real dork asking for inside
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info from Alex.
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He appears to have personally bought in on an embarrassing level to Alex's shtick.
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I think you're not going to be able to stammer your way through this one on a both sides,
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lesser of two evils kind of thing, because Trump supported and brought us the vaccine.
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These people have seen such a profit motive in demonizing the vaccine and creating hysteria
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around it.
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And people took that seriously.
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People died because they believed the right wing storylines about COVID and now Alex wants
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to pretend, well, Trump's pretty good on the issue.
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It's not an issue.
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It's a mass murder biological weapon plot.
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I think that it's pretty likely that one of Trump's biggest liabilities is the anti-vax
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fervor that his base has rallied around.
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It was so profitable and so easy to organize around that, that they couldn't resist it.
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But now it's also disqualifying for the candidate that they want to defend as the lesser of
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two evils.
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And it just doesn't, it doesn't work.
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Yeah.
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That's the one, this is the one that is amazing to me that they got, that people get like
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twisted up on, because it, to me, it just like, I get, you know, the morality of being
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like, ah, foreign wars are bad.
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You know, that's how it works and people should do that stuff.
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But ostensibly the idea of borders and nations is that sooner or later, there'll be our enemy
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anyway.
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So who fucking cares?
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What matters for your government that you're choosing is that they don't poison you.
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Like isn't that the number one, like, hey, first off, government don't poison me, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's a big one.
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Like I don't go murder other people.
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That's bad.
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I understand that.
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But you know, the government is our government and there are other people.
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Not responding in an ideal way to foreign tensions and things that happen around the
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world that sometimes you have an influence in, and sometimes you wish you had more of
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an influence in, or whatever.
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Not responding in a perfect way, obviously you want to be against.
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Sure.
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Not creating a bioweapon and then attacking the entire, it's a different kind of thing.
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It seems insurmountable to me and somehow they're surmounting it.
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No, it is for a lot of people and I think that's why Trump's not going to get all of
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RFK's followers.
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Yeah, you're right.
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I think that because it was so profitable and because they were able to use it so well,
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a lot of people are true believers in a way that Trump cannot reach now.
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And I think that's sort of the way that the knife cuts the other direction, a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's crazy.
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So Jimmy has another decent question and that is that, hey, Trump wants to make this whole
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border thing.
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Do you think that's just going to be an excuse to do surveillance shit?
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Sure.
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And Alex, this should, he should be worried about this.
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This is being so disqualifying.
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So do you fear that if Trump becomes president and he goes to secure the border, he's going
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to do it with what Whitney Webb talks about with surveillance and facial recognition.
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It's going to be an electronic wall instead of an actual wall, which is just going to
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mean mass surveillance for everybody.
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Do you fear that?
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Yeah.
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I mean, Ron Paul always said when they build a wall, it's going to be to keep us in and,
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but you already go to the airport and try to make you face the end to get on an airplane.
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So this stuff's already here, so I'm not saying we should capitulate to it, but we have to
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cut the incentives off to tell the world they can just come here for free and go bankrupt.
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We have corporations want cheap labor and you've got the different thing, you know,
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the different NGOs that are making a lion's share of the money off servicing all of these
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migrants.
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Yeah.
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So that's the way that Alex answers this question.
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Fuck immigrants.
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Wild.
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Yeah.
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Wild.
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That's a, that's a tough question for Alex because everything about his career should
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lead him to say, yes, and it is too risky to ever allow someone like Trump to put something
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like that in place.
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We assume good intentions.
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Sure.
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Oh, sure.
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But everybody does right before everything goes wrong.
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It shouldn't just be that, but like, Hey, if you have your guy do a thing, it's also
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important to remember that four years later, a different guy might then have that same
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power to do that same thing and you might not like that guy.
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True.
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That's the idea.
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And Alex's career is largely based on all kinds of absurd, uh, well, if we allow this,
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then what kind of thing, um, and for him to be like, they already face scan you at the
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airport.
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Yeah.
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I mean the opposite of what is, uh, his entire world is based on.
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It is so why, like, I want, I want to have some sort of shot collar installed in me now
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that I can program, uh, because like, this is everything like just listening to this,
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this is everything that he is not supposed to be.
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I mean, everything is not supposed to, yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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I'm, I'm, I am, I have to like have a shot collar now just to make sure that at no point
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in time in the future will I slide into this trash.
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Trump murdered everyone with the vaccine, but he met well and he was tricked by everyone
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around him.
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So we should give him another shot.
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He is the lesser of two evils in terms of war and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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Um, but also he's probably gonna do a bunch of, um, yeah, sure.
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Um, there is a high tech surveillance tyranny that is going to be implemented by the border.
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You're the mark of the beast guy.
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Yeah.
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But look, they already scanned you at the airport.
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You're the mark of the beast guy.
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Oh, well.
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You see, this is just, it's just crazy.
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It reveals the insincerity of a lot of the positions that Alex has built his entire brand
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around.
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Totally.
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Um, and I don't think that Jimmy is meaning to reveal these things or anything, but it
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lays it pretty bare.
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Um, so, uh, Jimmy talks a little bit about how Trump's, he's not the outsider that he
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once was.
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Cause he was already the god damn president.
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That's true.
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Um, and I would describe Alex on his back-est of back feet.
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Dave Smith tweeted out today that he thought it was a mistake for, uh, well here he says
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the problem with Trump calling the Democrats communists and Marxists, aside from being
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inaccurate and making him sound like a grandpa arguing in the 1940s is the framing he says
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between his position on Israel COVID and even his praising of the secret for service.
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What Trump calls his opponents Marxists, he positions himself as a defender of the establishment
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guarding against the radicals.
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That was never the appeal of Donald Trump.
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People supported him because he represented a repudiation of the Bushes, the Clintons,
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the Obamas and the corporate media.
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He was a giant middle finger to the establishment.
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So do you think it's, go ahead.
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I mean, I know where you're going and I think it's very fair to say this is a more establishment
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Trump than we saw eight years ago or four years ago and I think that's his advisors
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telling him to be more of an establishment Republican and I don't think that's, that,
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that's wise.
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I think it should be the bomb thrower politically for the media quotes me on that, you know,
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the term bomb thrower being, he should be the outsider, the populist, the maverick,
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which he never, as you said, fully delivered on, but the system sees him as that and now
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he is definitely, you know, I mean, he's been going after Tamala Harris and Biden for getting
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almost all the big corporate donations and you know, all the big black rock money.
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And instead he is acting like, you know, they're Bernie Sanders, you know, and then some left
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to see university and that's not who they are.
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I mean, they are military industrial complex puppets.
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So the big appeal of Trump was being, you know, anti-war compared to them and going
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against the establishment.
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That's still the big appeal that they've tried to put him in jail and take him off the ballot
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and kill him.
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But that is being outweighed in many ways by what, what you're saying.
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And I tried to be a big Trump supporter, but, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, you know, loyal
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opposition or whatever.
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I just sit there, you know, talk about him, but, but, but, but don't criticize him.
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I mean, I really am concerned and a lot of my listeners are concerned about Trump and
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the different turns he's made.
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Hey man, you're fighting the devil.
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What is happening?
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Right?
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I feel insane right now.
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I do too.
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I feel legit crazy.
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I feel like I've been sent into a different universe where everything's fucked up and,
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and all that happened is I just, I just listened to this shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is crazy.
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I'm taking a point that is good about what made Trump's brand really viable in 2016 and
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why him winning sucked and why it didn't work and why it ruined 2020 and why it's kind of
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falling apart now is that he is supposed to be the bomb thrower.
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He's supposed to be the guy who is fighting against the system.
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He gets in power and you have to create this entirely insidious other system that he's
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supposed to be fighting and now that system is really the system or it's just, it's too
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much.
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He's supposed to retake the reigns for the sake of civilization.
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Listen, Obama did the hope and change right in 2008 and then when he didn't do either
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of those things, he didn't continue doing hope and change in 2012.
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He was like, Hey, come on, I'll be better than that guy.
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Come on, bud.
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You know, like Trump, that's all you get on your second term whenever, because you never
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deliver on shit.
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We already tried.
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Cause you're a trash human being.
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You became the president, you're worthless.
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Your slogan when you're being reelected is we've done all right.
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Yeah.
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What?
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We'll try and do more.
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Fuck off.
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Great.
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But if you've had four years off in between, it's really hard to like have any kind of
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idea of like, Oh, well keep the ball rolling.
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What?
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You know?
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No, you can't.
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It's no good.
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No.
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It is about optics and it's about the brand that everyone bought into with Trump.
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The appeal to the supporters was based on wanting to give a middle finger to the man
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or whatever.
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And now it, it really isn't the same.
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There's still an anger that, that, uh, Trump embodies for a lot of his followers, but trying
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to pretend that it works on some kind of a like Clinton, Obama insider versus Trump level
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just feels false.
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Yeah.
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And, and for Alex to be so sort of stammery about his support of Trump is hilarious.
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It is.
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It's so wild.
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Like I, I appreciate, I appreciate how everybody got into this place, you know, because for
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the longest time we were like, what if everybody was just the worst possible candidate?
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And then we'll choose, you know, but then Biden stepped away.
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So now you have to, the rules are different now.
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Now it's not two dying old men, which one was going to be more of a monster to you?
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You know, like the rules have changed.
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Yeah.
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And I think that Alex may be representing something that is really important for him.
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Yeah.
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Which is, you might need to get rid of Trump.
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You have to.
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He can't even give a strong defense of Trump in front of Jimmy fucking doors audience.
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I mean, that's tragic.
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Like this is, you don't have to tell the truth.
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This is a weak man.
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This is very weak, but he should be weak.
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Like he shouldn't be defending Trump, but he also should be because it's only like two
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months till the election and he's supposed to be fighting the devil.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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You just, you know, his heart's not in this.
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You just can't do it.
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Yeah.
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Like the only thing maybe that they got is they should go hard on trying to convince
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everybody that Kamala tried to kill Trump.
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I think you push the picture of him with a bloody fist, you tie it to all of the Democrats
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and you say, they're going to kill all of you next.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Like that's your only hope.
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And the idea of creating all of these ways that you can sort of slow down the process
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and create bullshit inquiries in Congress and stuff like that, you know, create a, create
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that kind of havoc in advance.
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I think those are probably your top priorities.
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Yeah.
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Cause you can't, you just can't do the other stuff.
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Right.
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It's over now.
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There's a chance that Trump will win and that is not in, that's not a foregone conclusion.
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Sure.
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There's a chance that he could win and if he does, great, but there's also a chance
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that he could lose and you don't want to be holding the bag.
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Right.
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And I think that Alex needs to do some work on that in two months.
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And this is one of the first times that I really felt like maybe he's expressing like
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a, uh, like, oh, yeah, I think it's so funny.
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I think it's so funny just that like we're in a space where it's like Trump could still
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win, but the only way he's going to win is with a massive amount of help from the media.
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And that's what we're all waiting for.
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And they're going to deliver.
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It's amazing.
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I don't know if they can resist.
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They just can't.
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They need money.
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They love money more than they want us to live.
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So this interview, yeah, it lasts only about 12 minutes.
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You're joking.
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No.
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Fuck me.
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It's very short.
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I mean, I support him because the system's trying to kill him, but that said, I'm going
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to be a supporter so that I can put his feet in the fire on issues and, you know, try to
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get better policies out of it.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Well, Alex, I just want to say I appreciate you taking time off your evening to share
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with me and my audience.
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Let's hear it for Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen.
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Why?
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So afterwards, he's not like, Hey, that guy was an idiot, right?
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Like he doesn't, uh, so there's no reveal of like, this is a joke or anything.
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So I don't know.
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I think it was sincere.
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I think it's a sincere interview and I think maybe it would have gone longer if Alex would
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have been at the time that he was supposed to be there.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So I think maybe that that was right.
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I don't, I don't know what happened, but it was very short and disappointing.
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Um, and then afterwards they go back to watching some clips.
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You're joking.
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What is this fucking show?
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You want to hear another clip?
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We're going to play a game with this clip.
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Yeah, I do.
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Try and figure out when this clip is from.
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Okay.
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Here's her platform right here.
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You know, we have to stay woke.
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Like everybody needs to be woke.
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And you can talk about if you're the wokest or woker, but just stay more woke than less
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woke.
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Yeah.
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Is she, she wouldn't be president or captain of the enterprise.
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What does that share?
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Does she mean more meth and less fentanyl because hey, you know what's not woke wearing
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three inch heels and a pantsuit.
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I think equality starts with not balancing your entire body on a centimeter of a stiletto.
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Yeah.
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What?
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That didn't land.
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Did they write, did they write this?
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I'm not sure.
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I have no idea.
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Oh God.
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So I turned it off.
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They're taking turns as though they like, yeah, yeah.
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We're going to have a little bit of a, we're going to play tag.
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Yep.
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So what do you think that clip of a Harris was from?
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I want to say 2019, 2017 both the clip of Cuomo and Harris are both for 2017 oh my God.
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What is wrong with that one was making the rounds on right wing social media.
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So I think that Jimmy must've seen it on there and been like, we can riff on this.
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I don't know.
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In practice, no, the confidence.
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I mean, man, I feel like, how about this?
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All right.
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You have, you have Tommy John surgery, all right.
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You lose your fastball.
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You don't have the same confidence as when you had the fastball.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Jimmy Dore has long since lost that fastball.
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I don't understand the confidence with which he is behaving.
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Well, that's the, that's the kind of thing that I'm, I'm, I'm dealing with is that like,
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I get everything except for like when he says the, you know what's not woke, we're in a
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pantsuit with his heels.
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And then the audience doesn't laugh.
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Nothing.
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Yeah.
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Like if the audience laughed, I would get all of this.
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Sure.
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I don't get where the, it doesn't even at times when Jimmy starts yelling and shit,
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the audience is into it.
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Yeah.
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So there are those moments where he's like Bernie Sanders is a fucking sellout hack.
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He went on Theo Vaughn's podcast and said that we should still vote and people like
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that.
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Right.
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But in terms of the humor, no, I don't think there's, it doesn't land.
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I can tell you, like, I can tell you what, like at our Toronto show, I can tell you at
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least three things that I said that did not land the way I wanted to, and they didn't
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go bad, but they didn't land the way that I wanted to.
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And I wanted, like, I was like, Oh my God, what am I doing with my life?
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like the idea of, and you know, cause I'm a comic, I put it back up there, got the confidence
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back, but the idea of being able to just like get dead silence and then just be like, ah,
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I'm still great.
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No idea.
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No idea.
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No idea.
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Well, I think you have to maybe have a different system of how you judge things then, you know?
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I guess.
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And I don't know, I was looking at his YouTube channel and I did notice that there were spikes
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in traffic or a spike is in views for the Alex's videos.
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So like, Oh God, that's cool.
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I mean, you know, you have, you have, um, here we go.
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What do we got?
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RFK also very popular videos about RFK get a whole lot more views than, than a lot of
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his other ones.
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Wild.
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You have like a, you know, 30,000 ish normal views and then Alex video 60,000.
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But he doesn't, does he, do they do like live shows a lot or have they, have they like maybe
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what's happened is they've retreated to the, like, all we are is in a studio kind of environment
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with each other.
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So we just talk like that and we don't actually know what makes a crowd laugh anymore.
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I don't think so.
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I think Jimmy still performs.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I think this is one of the problems that we have is that first of all, we don't know Jimmy
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all that well.
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No, that's true.
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Uh, as his show.
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That's true.
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And then second, this is the first episode of rumble time, man.
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So there is no context for what this is.
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Y'all gotta make that the last episode of rumble time.
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I'm excited for episode two.
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I am not.
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We are definitely going to cover it.
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We are not.
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I told you I made a mistake and I think I made a mistake.
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I think so too.
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But I also think I like, here's the thing though.
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This is kind of mind blowing.
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This whole thing, again, I feel like I'm in an alternate universe and he's just saying
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the normal stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel like a, like a normal like person who thinks about political things and that kind
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of shit is bizarre.
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And so him pretending to be that is bizarre.
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And then I really do think that there is something that is fascinating about the way that Jimmy
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needs to make Trump just another politician in the same pursuit as the media trying to
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make him another politician.
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They make Trump a credible politician in order to facilitate the horse race.
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And Jimmy's making him just another politician for the, for the same reason.
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Cause it justifies this kind of a both sides thing.
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Yeah.
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This is wild.
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I mean also like Alex, it's more fun to not be the lesser of two evils person.
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Do you know who has no fun being the person who's like, let's be responsible.
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That's not a fun position.
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No, no.
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But when your alternative is yelling about the devil in front of a crowd of presumably
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hip Jimmy door fans, that's what I'm saying.
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They wouldn't judge.
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That's a show.
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No, but they'd be laughing at him.
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That's what he's supposed to be.
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No, he doesn't like that.
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Oh my God.
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He doesn't.
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He used to, he used to be fine with people laughing.
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He used to have a brashness that could withstand people laughing at him.
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And now I don't know if that's the case, but I think he could probably, if it wasn't a
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live show, like, yeah, if it was just him and Jimmy sitting around, he could talk about
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the devil.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But the live show aspect of it, probably it's a nightmare to be trapped in a screen with
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a, an audience that can't talk to you.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, um, we'll be back another episode, but until then we have a website indeed we
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do.
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It's knowledge fight.com.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Leo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DCX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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And here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.