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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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It's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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That,that, that, that, that, that, that.
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I'm sick of some of the great guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Yeah.
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It's time to pray.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Ride.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk
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a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is my wife.
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Okay, so a lot of the times my problems I solve with answers like this.
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Eventually I'll die.
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Uh-huh.
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Right?
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So.
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I mean, it's harder to have more scale than that.
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Eventually I'll die.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We call that perspective.
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Exactly.
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So we have this comforter, the same comforter that I think I've had for almost 30 years,
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and we've been using it and both of us for the longest time have been waking up just
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drenched in sweat.
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Like, there's something about the hot, cold thing.
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Seems like it's not a comforting comforter.
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No, no, no, no, miserable, miserable, awful experience.
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But my solution was eventually we'll die.
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And then she was like, we could just get a different comforter.
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It's true.
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Very smart, very smart.
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It's true.
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You both have good points.
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No, very much.
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Yeah, we will one day die, so who gives a fuck about this comforter, but we don't need
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to use it.
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We don't need to die.
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Like this.
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So yeah, so she stepped up, made the purchase of a cool comforter.
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It's a comforter, but it's also cool.
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I don't know how it works.
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It's science.
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It breathes?
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Something like that?
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No, no, no, no.
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It's always cold to the touch.
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It's magic.
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It's demon powered.
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Cold comforter.
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It's amazing.
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It's cold comfort.
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No, it's warm comfort on a cool surface.
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All right.
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All right.
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I know that I have in the past bought a pillow that claimed it would always be cool.
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Yeah.
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And I did find that disappointing, but it was a while back, so I don't know if technology's
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gotten better.
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I'm telling you, this honestly makes me afraid of the future.
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Makes you think maybe you'll never die.
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It is always cold.
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It is always cold.
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It makes me, like I was talking about this.
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She's been secretly putting it in the freezer when you've been out of the house.
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No.
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I don't know.
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Whatever she's doing, it worked.
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So I'm happy.
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Nice.
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How about you?
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Well, I don't know.
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SummerSlam was last night.
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SummerSlam.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Roman Reigns came back.
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That guy has it.
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Yeah.
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Just feel it.
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When he walks into a room, he's good.
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He's good at what he does.
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Yeah?
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He has a presence.
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It's tough.
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It takes a long time to build those.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was interesting to watch because outside of Uncle Howdy, I don't feel like there's
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anybody else who walks into a room and is like, ooh, things are different now.
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But Uncle Howdy, still lurking in the background, made no appearance at SummerSlam, which makes
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sense because it's summer.
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You don't want a guy with a top hat and a crazy leather coat on?
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The Wyatts are not summer people.
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Right.
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Right.
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So I understand.
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Right.
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Because apparitions do often think of the weather whenever they're... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You don't want to see Uncle Howdy in that Borat slings swimsuit.
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Right.
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Right.
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It's incongruent.
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The Headless Horseman was never in a tropical environment.
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Only in the cold and rain of the Northeast, my friends.
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I am a little bit missing whatever's going on.
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I want more.
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Yeah.
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But I think that's probably what you aspire for in a business.
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You want people to want more, and I currently want more of the Howdies.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So congratulations.
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Anyway, we've got an episode to go over today, Jordan.
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Okay.
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So we're going to be talking about August 2nd, 2024.
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All right.
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That is Friday.
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Friday.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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We're going to talk about Friday.
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It sucks.
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Yeah?
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Everything sucks.
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Everything sucks.
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On his show.
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It sucks so much.
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On our last episode, he was talking about how he's the ghost in the machine and all
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this other crazy bullshit.
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That was on Thursday.
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Yeah.
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And now here we are on Friday.
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You'll see what happens.
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You know, it's like I think everyone's gone to where Alex was 15 years ago and just we've
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all like frog boiled our whole thing.
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And now Alex is in that place of either you go pro if you're weird or you turn into like
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just everybody else.
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And I don't feel like he's bringing anything different from your average garden variety
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transphobe.
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I mean, content wise, that's true.
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Yeah.
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Like there isn't really much that sets him apart on a content level.
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From J.K.
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Rowling.
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Right.
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Or from any ding dong on Twitter.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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That is challenging because how do you evolve the form?
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Right.
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You know?
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And that's what you have to do.
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And I think that the two things that we've noticed that are potentially like what makes
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you special.
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Right.
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One, he's on a quest from God.
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Yes.
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And other people can't claim that.
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They'll never get there.
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He's got 20 years behind it.
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He's got a Chase Geyser.
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Yeah.
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And the two of them have a dynamic that is electric.
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A brand new dynamic for the far right.
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Yes.
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That they've never seen before.
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Yeah.
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And I think that those things are valuable in elevating the form.
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But you know, we're devoid of any of that today.
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And a lot of days.
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So it's just kind of like just standard bullshit.
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But we'll get down to business on talking about exactly how it's bullshit.
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But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, thank you so much to Lane Thinks Roe is the Cutest Policy Wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Hey, Ashley.
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Yes, you, Ashley.
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I love you.
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From Bitch Face Tomato Nose.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, imagine Alex Jones as a skibbity toilet.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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That one had an exclamation point.
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I genuinely don't know what that means.
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I'm not sure either.
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I put it in there because I was going to ask you.
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I thought it's a reference to Scatman, but I don't think it is.
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I thought it was a specific type of toilet or like a new meme about toilets.
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It probably is.
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I had no idea.
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I love being old.
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Next, Ben Artist.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Ambrose Adlestone.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes.
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Thank you very much.
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So I told you, I believe on our last episode, that there is a feeling of a bit of treading
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water.
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Yeah.
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Trump, there was an attempted assassination.
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Sure.
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There have been some hearings about this and, you know, there's, there's inquiries going
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on, investigations, and Alex has just jumped to the conclusion.
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He's made up his mind on what the story is.
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He doesn't need any information.
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Yeah.
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It was the secret service planned it all out.
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Yeah.
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They stood down, but also probably were actively involved.
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Naturally.
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And so it's just kind of this weird, boring conspiracy space where he's, he's just decided
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on his storyline and he's just going to keep pushing.
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It's not that good.
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Nah.
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20 days ago in Butler, Pennsylvania, the deep state tried to kill president Trump.
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And I told you that day, it was a clear stand down.
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I have followed and studied how the secret service operates going back to the days of
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Abraham Lincoln and at key points in history, they stand down so the presidents can be killed.
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They stood down with Lincoln.
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They stood down of course with JFK.
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They stood down with Ronald Reagan.
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They stood down with president Trump and we now have multiple high level of whistleblowers
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from the secret service and local police all telling the same story.
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No threat assessment team that makes the calls into the snipers and gives the orders on who
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to kill was there.
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And the now acting director who was the deputy director at the time, Ronald Roe, who testified
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this week that he didn't know who cut down the staff.
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He lied directly, even worse than Fauci lied, totally cut and dry to the Senate, serious
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felony crimes and said repeatedly, we, we, we aired the clips here.
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You saw him, it was all over the nose that he didn't know and that standards procedure
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was being followed.
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All of that is a lie.
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He gave the direct orders.
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So he did it.
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It was this Roe guy.
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I mean, I guess we figured it out.
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Yeah, we do.
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We have a, we have this whole, they have the whole roadmap now apparently none of this
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is based in reality.
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Yeah.
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I do also just think there's something fascinating about how serious and not serious lying to
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Congress is.
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Yeah.
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Like it's very, very serious right now.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Not so serious when you know, like Roger does it.
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No, I do love in real life whenever people are like, Oh, he lied to Congress.
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And I'm like, Hey, calm it down, buddy thinks there's legal and then there's, you know,
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I do.
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I think that it's strange cause I think we have, we have to have a respect for these
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like bodies of public.
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Sure.
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So like, sure.
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It's always gotta be something that you're in trouble if you lie to them.
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But I always think about this in terms of like, if a cop asks you, did you commit that
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murder?
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Yeah.
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Generally you're going to say no.
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And then should you be charged with lying to a cop?
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Absolutely not.
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I don't know.
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I don't think you should be charged with trying to escape a prison.
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It makes sense for you to try and escape a prison that that makes sense.
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The impetus is a, it makes sense.
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Yeah.
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You shouldn't be punished for that.
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If you escape from a prison, that is the prison's fault.
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It is the prison's job to keep you by that same kind of rationale.
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Sure.
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Uh, if you were committing a crime, you should lie to Congress.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I don't know if society functions.
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Listen, don't be a cop.
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It's the cop's job to be a cop.
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If the cops, but listen, how about this?
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So don't be in Congress.
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All right.
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Well, if they want to be, if they want to be respected, you should probably earn your
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respect.
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Side conversation.
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Yeah.
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Fair enough.
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But, um, so I was just kind of bored, you know, like we've got, we've got this, uh,
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case that Alex has cracked with, uh, no, no cracking.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I was like, ah, I got nothing here.
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It's Friday.
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This sucks.
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Uh, and then this happened.
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So that's where we are and we're going to go walking through all of this today and there's
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so much other insane news.
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We've got some big guests coming on Tommy Robinson who just got arrested.
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I'm sorry.
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Fuck me.
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We're leading tens of thousands of peaceful protests in England arrested for terrorism.
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Police said protesting open borders is terror.
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Uh, the prime minister's come out and defended the young black illegal alien that stabbed
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and killed three young children and said that, uh, basically they're, they're the bad people.
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It's just completely over the top.
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So Tommy Robinson is back and now we really should feel like we're just doing 2016.
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I mean, this is bad because this is shit.
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This is trash.
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We've discussed him in great detail in the past.
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So to give a brief refresher, Tommy Robinson is a career violent street agitator and anti
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Muslim propagandist who exists solely to attack immigrants and then play the victim to encourage
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other white people to attack immigrants further.
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We've seen him involved in a number of hoaxes over the years meant to incite rage against
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immigrants and he's involved in another one now.
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This has to do with the case of Axel Raducabana, a 17 year old from the UK who was charged
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with killing three young girls at a Southport Taylor Swift themed yoga and dance workshop.
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Obviously the case is horrifying and a complete tragedy and I don't mean to minimize any of
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that.
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In the aftermath of the attack and arrest, the details about the perpetrator's identity
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were kept private because he was 17, which is normal in the United Kingdom.
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They don't always release these details.
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When he was seen at the Liverpool Crown Court, however, the judge did not impose this prohibition
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for the case, so the media was able to cover the details about the charged person.
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In the meantime, in that period where no one knew any details, right wing anti-immigrant
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agitators like Tommy Robinson began a campaign to blame migration for these murders.
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They were certain that the attacker was a migrant and if the government had just bowed
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to their white nationalist demands, this guy would have never been there to carry this
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attack out and the fact that they weren't releasing details about him was proof that
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they were covering it up as opposed to him being a 17 year old and them not releasing
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that stuff all the time.
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This narrative stuck and it prompted days of protest that at times broke out into violence.
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However, once the suspect was seen in court and his identity was revealed, it turns out
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that he was born in Britain, he wasn't an immigrant and has no known connections to
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terrorism.
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The folks like Tommy Robinson want to fight.
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They want street violence and they will take or manufacture any opportunity to incite it.
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Prime Minister Keir Starmer put it quite well, quote, as far as the far right is concerned,
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this is coordinated.
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This is deliberate.
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This is not a protest that just got out of hand.
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It's a group of individuals who are absolutely bent on violence.
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Tommy Robinson is one of the most high profile people who's absolutely bent on violence and
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he has been for years.
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It's very distressing to see him on this show, particularly at this point, when there's every
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reason to know that the premise of the outrage that he is the front person for is factually
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inaccurate.
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There's no excuse to associate with Tommy Robinson in 2024.
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You know better.
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You absolutely know better.
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Incidentally, just today, it's coming out that this violence has been spreading.
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In Rotterdam, police face down with a violent crowd trying to storm a hotel where asylum
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seekers were housed.
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This mob sought to kill the migrants housed there and set the building on fire.
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The AP covered the story and said, quote, rallying cries have come from a diffuse group
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of social media accounts, but a key player in amplifying them is Steven Yaxley-Lennon,
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a long time far right agitator who uses the name Tommy Robinson.
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He led the English Defense League, which Mercy Dale Police has linked to the violent protest
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in Southport on Tuesday, a day after the stabbing attack.
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Tommy Robinson is actively involved in trying to incite real-world violence against migrants
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in the UK, and it's having its desired effect.
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Alex is an active and eager participant in that effort, which I hope ends up being a
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problem for him.
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As Prime Minister Starmer said, quote, I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder,
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whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves.
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This is not a protest.
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It's organized violent thuggery, and it has no place in our streets or online.
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And so Tommy is coming on to basically make things worse.
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I don't know.
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Listen, I don't think the government should point out, should say out loud that a certain
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group of people is bent on violence because that kind of eliminates any possibility of
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talking to them.
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So if that's the case, then they have to step up because they're not doing that.
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So if you're going to claim that other people are bent on violence and then do fuck all
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about it, I mean, somebody should.
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I don't know if that's necessarily the case.
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Just because someone's bent on violence doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to get
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their violence.
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Well, I mean, they started a lynch mob and then they tried to light a hotel on fire.
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So that's over.
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For every single person there, that's over.
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There is no talking.
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Right.
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It's them or you.
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But it wasn't it also wasn't police.
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It wasn't devoid of a police response.
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You know, not necessarily that the police were able to.
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Did the police stop anybody from doing anything?
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I don't know all the details.
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So I can't say, but I know that there were a bunch of police there that were obviously
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part of it.
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I mean, there were a bunch of people that involved it.
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So good.
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Good work.
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A legal is illegal.
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Yeah.
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Look, shit's bad.
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I mean, no matter how you slice it.
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Yeah.
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If the government says it, then that's trouble.
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Because now because the problem with if Care Starmer says that and then I do something
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and then you prosecute me.
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My defense is Care Starmer.
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And that should be a valid defense, period.
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Right.
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I understand.
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Government said it.
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I understand what you're saying is just that defense is equally valid to Tommy Robinson's
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followers.
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Exactly.
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Attacking somebody.
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That's why Care Starmer can't do it.
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Right.
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If your defense is Tommy Robinson and my defense is Care Starmer, then what are we even fucking
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doing here?
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Right.
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We're just fighting.
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But I do think that there's a large difference between the rhetoric that comes out of folks
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like Tommy and Care Starmer.
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There was until Care Starmer.
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There was.
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And that's what's important.
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If there was a difference, that would matter.
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But if the moment you claim that these people are only out for one thing and there is no
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talking to them and you're the fucking prime minister, that's trouble.
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I don't know if in the quotes that I read, there's no talking to them was in there.
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These people are bent on violence.
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Only bent on violence.
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No, absolutely bent on violence.
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Not only.
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It is.
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It is worse.
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It's splitting hairs.
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That's even worse.
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Absolutely is the end of conversa- absolute.
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I do still think that there's a massive difference between Tommy and Starmer.
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While I respect that, I think 10 years ago there was.
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And I don't think we live in that world anymore.
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And that's his choice, not Tommy Robinson.
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I think that there is a bluntness and a slightly less guarded political phrasing of what is
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being said by Starmer.
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But I don't think it's even close.
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So anyway, let's skip off this topic for a second while Alex says something really dumb.
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Huge news on the economy, obviously, with the stock market and these job numbers are
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so bad coming out.
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Thanks to Gavin Newsom, the biggest business booster for Texas, our great states ever seen,
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Chevron at Standard Oil, folks, that's the Rockefeller, is coming to Tejas that will
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bring hundreds of billions of dollars in the next few years to the state.
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So that exodus continues.
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Shouldn't Alex see this as a sign that Texas has bad policies?
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If the monopoly hungry Rockefeller oil company feels like it's in their business interest
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to leave California and go to Texas, it heavily implies that Texas is much more of a friendly
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place for monopoly hungry evil corporations.
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I don't think Alex fully thought this one through before he started celebrating the
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money that's going to come into the state.
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The principles are a little bit undercut by this.
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The Rockefellers are coming.
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I'm stoked.
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Yay.
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What?
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Yeah.
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The Rockefellers and all their evil stuff isn't working out in California because the
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government has made policies that make it more difficult for the evil Rockefellers to
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operate.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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Shit.
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We're in trouble on this one.
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That seems dumb.
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Don't think too hard.
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So Alex rambles a bit about Fort Ticonderoga and how he's like those soldiers.
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He's a winter soldier.
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He hasn't cut and run when the going gets tough.
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Politically, the winner is here and most people have not gotten ready for this.
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And so we're not sunshine patriots.
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We're winter soldiers.
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So the analogy continues on into that area.
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You know what a sunshine patriot is versus a winter soldier?
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Sunshine patriots are always happy to be on a bandwagon.
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They're always happy to act like they care and virtue signal.
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But the winter soldier fights when their shoes have fallen apart.
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Alex quit on the show yesterday because they played the right clip, but he thought it was
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the wrong one.
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He is no fucking winter soldier.
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He leaves his own show at the mildest of inconveniences.
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So that's just funny.
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So Alex gets back onto the topic of the secret service and he just kind of guesses about
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a bunch of stuff.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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And so we need to continue to be pissed off and angry.
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They want us to forget what they tried to do.
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They want us just to go away.
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No, we need maximum pressure.
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We need to remove the new head of the secret service and we need to impeach Merrick Garland
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who you know gave the orders and, and, and, and Alexander Mayorkas Alejandro Mayorkas.
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These are evil criminals, folks.
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They didn't just take a shot at Trump.
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They took a shot at you and they're a bunch of scum and this guy's a big Democrat.
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He's always worked for Democrats.
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He is a slime bag.
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He is an enemy of your family.
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He's an enemy of this country.
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He tried to kill our president.
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I'll guarantee you they were running that operation, had that guy wound up.
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I would imagine he probably gave the orders.
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Guaranteed.
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You know it.
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That was fast.
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Guess what you missed, you piece of shit.
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Is this what we do?
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Is this how we, is this how we get to the bottom of the real news?
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Is this, is I, I imagine, I bet that's what happened.
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I guarantee that's what happened.
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That's fast.
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That's too fast.
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If you imagine to guarantee within one, with less than one sentence between them.
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Not good.
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Not good.
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Nope.
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My whims become reality once I speak them.
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I like the idea.
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So here's what's interesting to me.
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All right.
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He named a bunch of times that, you know, presidents were almost assassinated or successfully
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assassinated.
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Stand down.
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And then the Secret Service stood down every time.
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But the thing about that is that the Secret Service had to have stood down in different
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ways every time.
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True.
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So there's somebody or people, a whole group of people within the Secret Service who are
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more than aware of how exactly to stand down to allow the president to be put in danger.
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And have to, they're tasked with coming up with new ways.
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Absolutely.
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There's like a writer's room.
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They can't do it, they can't do it the same way every time.
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Every assassination is unique.
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Right.
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And this one has Rose fingerprints all over it.
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Fine.
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So Alex believes that Trump needs to do something to get ahead of this.
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And that is basically he needs to give a speech from the godfather to these damn globalists.
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All right.
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He gets into that here.
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I said, next, they're going to say Iran's going to kill Trump.
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And then they're going to start a war with Iran, which you now see happening, and then
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blow Trump up or something or shoot his airplane down and say that it was the Iranians.
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And then they came out and said that.
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I mean, I'm inside their heads.
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But what else did I say?
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I said Trump has to come out and he can pack the local secret, the secret service that,
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you know, try to protect him and say, OK, they're good.
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That's fine.
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But he's got to say Mayorkas and Roe and Garland are guilty of this.
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It's obvious the people know it.
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He doesn't just go back to Butler to draw attention to this.
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He needs to do it now.
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Not through his surrogates, not through Don Jr., not through J.D. Vance, not through Alex
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Jones, not through Tucker Carlson.
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He has to do it himself.
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This is a no brainer.
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The people know it's true.
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And Trump has to say, I'm really concerned they're going to try to kill me again.
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They clearly stood down.
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He'd go over the evidence.
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He can talk about it.
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And he needs to talk about it every day.
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Because they're going to try again.
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But if he lets them know that if I get killed, like the godfather says.
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And that famous scene does pull up godfather commission meeting.
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Oh, my God.
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Godfather one commission meeting.
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They're all around a big table and one mob boss's son's been killed and Don Corleone's
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son's been killed.
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And he says, I won't be the one to break the peace.
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As long as I'm alive, but I'm a, you know.
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Person that loves my family and I have selfish reasons, I don't want any of my other family
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killed.
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And so I will not break the peace if you don't.
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And so they make a deal.
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But he says, but let me say this.
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If my other son, Michael, who's now coming back to the United States, killed the police
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captain.
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This is all based on true stories that change the names.
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Is it when he comes back, if he should be struck by a bolt of lightning of a police
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officer should shoot him in the head or he should fall down some stairs.
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I added that I'm going to blame.
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Well done.
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Good punch up.
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And Trump needs to explain that right now.
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Get out of the way.
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Let us save the country.
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You don't want a civil war.
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You're going to lose this fight.
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But if you kill me, everybody needs to know you did it.
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That's the no brainer and he needs to do it.
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He needs to do it right now.
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But they got to kill Trump.
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That's the key.
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Trump needs to be like a mob boss.
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He's not a, he's not a mob boss though.
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He's not at all like, I was going to say, don't go there, but he needs to act like that.
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You know, he needs to do the things that the mob did in this movie that I like eventually.
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Do you think there's a single moment where Alex gets to the point where he's like, I
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always tell people to do what the bad guy does always well, I mean, it has to be somewhere
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in his mind because I mean, he does the, the star wars, imperial sure, sure.
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But I mean, that's his theme song that when you can defend is just like Darth Vader's
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coolest shit with the theme song, John Williams.
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It's a well-made theme song.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then you got James Earl Jones, you got the, he's six foot 10, you know, it's great.
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It's amazing.
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Sure.
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He does the, um, there's the Palpatine voice a lot.
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Sure.
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All that is classic culture.
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He does, uh, also seems to quote Baron Harkonnen a lot.
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Again, see that one's not good.
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No.
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That one is, it doesn't get more monstrous than Baron Harkonnen on purpose.
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He's a, yeah, maybe, maybe he's a little into villains.
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Might be.
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Um, but, uh, yeah, I like, I like this, uh, this retelling of the scene and this is where
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I think that Alex might have some awareness that Trump is more useful to him if they actually
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do kill him.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but especially if Trump does do this speech and is like, if I die, it was you.
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That, that is not good.
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No, it does kind of set like a really prime opportunity for an accelerationist who's really
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looking for some sort of trouble to kill Trump, uh, after he has set down the, the, the gauntlet
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that, uh, if you, if I, if you, if I die, it was you.
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If, if in 2024, the, the Trump comes out and is like, you should not believe the official
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story if I die, period, then we're screwed.
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I, I, I'm not even talking about a civil war.
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I'm just like, no one will ever believe the truth or reality ever again.
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Why would you?
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It's tenuous as it is.
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Yeah.
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So Alex plays a little bit of a row.
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The acting secret service, uh, had, uh, plays a little bit of the testimony and just kind
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of yells over it.
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Sure.
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Uh, quite a bit helpful.
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The department of Homeland security is better than Dallas independent review directed by
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president Biden.
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Start measuring your prison outfit.
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The secret services office of professional responsibility is currently conducting a mission
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assurance review.
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Oh yeah.
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As I stated, I'm not willing for the comp, I'm not waiting for the completion of those
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reports.
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He ordered the stand down.
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He lied to Congress and said he wasn't guaranteed.
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He was on the planning, probably wound up a shooter.
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There's the culprit right there.
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I'm telling you, he's the guy Mayorkas, they met, they planned it.
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He's, he's the guy, he's, he's the guy, everybody knows it.
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That's the guy.
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That's him, that's him, that's him.
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Those individuals will be held accountable.
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We know it's you.
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Disciplinary process.
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I think those games can fool a Corleone.
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So wait, no, he's in the mob?
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Yeah, everyone's in the mob.
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Oh my God.
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Um, so this, I mean, this is just what you kind of want if you're Alex's audience, but
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it doesn't actually, we haven't seen a ton of it.
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This, this feels more 2016 too.
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This, like, Alex really getting pumped and excited yelling responses at a video.
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This is like his, uh, Stelter days.
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Yeah.
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Um, I wonder, you know, it's cathartic.
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I think, I think if he was in Congress, he wouldn't be like, the only difference between
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him and most of Congress would be he's saying it out loud.
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You know, like half the people in Congress would be like, shut up, you're stupid.
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I hate you.
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I'm a Congresswoman.
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I don't know.
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Have you watched any of the hearings?
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They're just usually quiet and they yell stuff at people.
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No, I mean like there, there isn't that much difference.
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It's just, they follow the rules.
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Fair enough.
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You know, like Matt Gaetz will still be like, Hey buddy, you committed all these.
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Oh wow.
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Oh, so he'll do it.
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He'll just do the whole thing.
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I think, I don't know what sense you could get from watching clips and stuff, but I was
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watching the like full hearings and like, yeah, some of those people are real dicks.
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Oh, well then you should lie to Congress.
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I think the difference between Alex and some of these people are like, he can't control
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himself.
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And these people can control themselves like Matt Gaetz or Jim Jordan can control themselves
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to speak when it's their turn and be a dick as opposed to Alex who just can't, he just,
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I'm just going to be a dick all the time.
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Amazing.
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So let's hear a little more of that.
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All right.
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You're the Democrat operative.
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You ran the attack.
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We know you did it.
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You did it.
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You did it.
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You're the suspect.
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You're the bad guy.
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You're the stand down.
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You, you, Ronald Roe, you be held responsible for our secret service failure.
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That's you.
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Order the stand down.
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You, you, you, you, you are the traitor.
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You are the enemy.
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You, you, you are the enemy.
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The information provided today is based on what I know now to a degree of certainty.
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We will learn more as interviews are completed and further evidence is gathered and analyzed
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and I will share more information as it becomes available.
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But I can say without a doubt that heroism was present that day.
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Secret service agents rushed to the stage to shield the former president with their
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bodies within three seconds of bullets ringing out in an unflinching act of bravery.
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But you ordered a standout sniper who neutralized the threat with a single shot, undoubtedly
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saved countless lives.
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Despite you not putting a command and control system in place, operational tempo and I need
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and I want our secret service workforce, the dedicated men and women of the secret service.
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I want to know, and I want to make sure that they are uplifted so they can focus on carrying
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out the mission.
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Stop attacking me.
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I'm going to follow the secret service and make it about them.
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Disgusting blob.
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And let me take a moment to speak to the American people that are counting on us.
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We know you did it.
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We know you're scared and you should be, pal, you little criminal.
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He ran the attack.
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He ran the attack.
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He ran the attack.
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He ran the attack.
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He ran the attack.
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He's behind it.
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He met with Mayorkas.
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They planned it all out.
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It's all going to come out dark days in our nation's history.
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There's a section like you dedicated patriots of the secret service.
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These public service professionals were, yeah, you miss you little bastard.
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It's just, I don't, I don't know.
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This is a very childish energy.
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I would say it leaves me with one question, did he plan it?
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Did he do this?
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If I was going to devise like a Bill and Ted style hell for a hard, honest, like just regular
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ass person who's trying to do their best, it would be forcing them to sit in Congress
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trying to explain what happened while Alex does that to them.
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That is hell.
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Oh yeah.
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I mean, even just having to watch it, I'm glad that their commercial breaks, like from
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Alex's show.
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And like if I had to watch that in perpetuity, I would even, I would go mad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, so yeah, it's a lot of that.
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There's a, there's a whole bunch of that.
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That's bad.
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Yeah.
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Um, and then, uh, Alex talks about how, uh, he's made it so they can't kill Trump now
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apparently, but they're still going to do it.
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They're still totally gonna do it, but they can't now because public opinion has turned
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against it.
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Okay.
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He lied to Congress and they control the justice department, so he thinks he's safe.
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But why is he so scared?
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Because the public opinion is totally against them.
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And now they're, they can't kill Trump because they know they'll get the blame, which is
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what I told you 20 days ago is key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key,
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key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key, key,
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key, key, key, key, key, key, key, come out and expose them key, key, key, damn it.
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You think I'm risking my life to lose this son of a bitch.
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I got these people's name.
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I got their number.
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I've got their ass.
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And we can all stand up and be men and say, I don't know how this is all going to end,
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but if you guys want to fight, you better believe you got one.
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I'm about fighting Tommy Robinson, arrested for terrorism, for having a peaceful demonstration
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in England.
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It's all coming up today, but the enemy's on the run, ladies and gentlemen, humanity
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has awakened.
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You did the catch phrase.
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That was fun.
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So apparently a sign of humanity waking up is Tommy Robinson being arrested for terrorism?
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I got some weird messaging.
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So at this point, Tommy had been arrested for breaching an order saying that he cannot
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repeat very specific lies that he's told in the past.
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This traces back to how he was successfully sued by a Syrian teenager named Jamal Hijazi,
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who Tommy had falsely accused of violence and who Tommy had led a media campaign against.
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As a part of the case's conclusion, it was made clear to Tommy that he needed to stop
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making the underlying claims that got him sued because they weren't true.
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He was just slandering a teenager.
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That case ended in July 2021, but recently Tommy has started making these claims again,
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quote, including in a film distributed online, according to the BBC.
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This has to do with a documentary about him called Silenced in which he pretends that
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he was right about all the lies he told, which he was telling to incite hatred against migrants.
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He was warned that releasing this film would be in violation of the order that stemmed
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from the lawsuit he lost.
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But then about 48 hours later, Tommy screened the film at a protest in Trafalgar Square.
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That's the wrong place to screen it.
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Tommy was ordered to appear before the high court to determine if his actions were in
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violation of the court's order, and they definitely were.
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But in the time before that court date, Tommy was caught at the Channel Tunnel Terminal
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in Folkestone, which gave police a strong sense that he was planning to flee the country,
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so they arrested him.
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He was held briefly, released on bail, and then he proceeded to flee the country.
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At the point of this interview, there's violence breaking out against migrants due to complete
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lies that Tommy has been selling about the dance class attacker being a migrant.
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As this goes down, the crowds chant his name while he's been hiding out in a luxury resort
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in Cyprus.
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He's doing this interview with Alex from his suite in that fancy vacation spot where he
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gets to chase publicity and crowdfund more vacation bucks by inciting terrorist actions
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against vulnerable people.
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Of all the people in Alex's orbit, there are very few who are as clearly monstrous as Tommy
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Robinson.
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He's been transparently a fraud and a violent bigot since the very beginning of his existence
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as a public figure, and that's why Alex supports him, and that's why he's on the show.
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It's not in spite of that, it's because of that.
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That endures him to Alex.
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I mean, the irony of hearing this story so soon after is that I think the only way that
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the judge or any judge could appropriately deal with Tommy Robinson is to go, you, you
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did it.
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It's you.
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You're the one who did it.
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You did it.
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You, it's you.
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We know you did it.
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It was you.
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We saw it on the Trump Republican Square.
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It's you.
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You did it.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So this next clip, before we get to Tommy coming on, I think this is one of the funniest
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things you can hear.
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I think it's a great moment.
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I'll just give you a little bit of a spoiler.
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Okay.
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Alex tries to do a dramatic monologue, but gets interrupted by a pre-recording of him
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doing a dramatic monologue.
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There's a real perfect moment you got to listen for.
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All right.
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Well, now I don't think I'll ever believe in reality.
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Mic down for this.
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Friday, August 2nd, 2024.
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The world is awakening.
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The globalists are in full panic mode.
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These are the times that try men and women's souls.
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Tommy Robinson said a hundred thousand people in London protest peacefully against the take-off.
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Alex had re-recorded himself doing a speech from Tron, and he forgot that that was in
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this audio that he was playing.
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He cut himself off.
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That's great.
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I mean, that moment is honestly like, it really spiritually speaks to what Alex is.
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Yeah.
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It's on the nose.
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So much of his show now is stuff that you would not get away with writing 10 years ago.
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Yeah.
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People would be like, listen-
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Remarkable self-parity.
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Try subtext.
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Try subtext one time.
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The Grid.
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Shit.
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Yeah.
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I'm in the middle of this.
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Uh-oh.
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Yeah, I'll let it play.
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I'll let it run.
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So Tommy comes on, and he discusses his rally a little bit here.
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Then we've done another one on the 27th of July called Unite the Kingdom, which was to
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unify the entire British population on the streets against mass uncontrolled immigration,
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and to give us back our identity as British people, to celebrate our culture and our identity,
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which is also being taken from us.
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We feel like aliens in our own towns and cities.
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We feel like our culture is disappearing, and our country is under attack.
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And whilst we do that, the government tell us to celebrate it.
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Well, we're fed up of celebrating that, and celebrating diversity, and celebrating LGBTQ+.
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We want to celebrate our identity and our fighting spirit as British people to resist
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tyranny.
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And that's what we come out on the 27th to do.
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It was the biggest gathering.
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It was the largest gathering of patriots London's ever seen.
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And you know what's upset them?
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It was totally peaceful.
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It was totally peaceful.
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We set up.
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We literally had a festival in Trafalgar Square.
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It's never been done.
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So the game Tommy is playing here is really transparent if you just pay a little bit of
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attention.
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Here's how the recipe goes.
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You start with a rally that's based around intense dog whistling that borders on messaging
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saying something like, us whites are taking the country back.
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This will attract a crowd, both of your supporters and of counter protesters, and the odds of
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some kind of chaos breaking out that'll get you media attention is pretty good.
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You've got a good chance of this being something that's explosive.
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To guarantee that you're able to play the victim, you can air a documentary that explicitly
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violates the terms of a lawsuit that you previously lost at said rally.
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That way, even if no chaos breaks out, there's a damn good chance that you're going to end
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up getting arrested for this rally and you can pretend that you're being persecuted.
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When that does happen and you get arrested for the thing you did intentionally in order
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to guarantee that you get arrested, all you have to do is pretend that you're being arrested
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for a different reason.
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Ignore the whole, I lied about a teenager and got sued thing, and just pretend that
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they arrested you because you're too effective and you're too peaceful of a civil rights
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leader for white people.
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It's all a charade, and if you pay attention to what he's saying and what he's doing, it's
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pretty obvious that this is why he restated these slanderous claims in this documentary
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and why he aired the documentary at the rally.
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Tommy's entire scam is about aggrievement, so he needs to always be the victim.
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By repeating lies about a migrant teenager, he was told not to repeat in a documentary
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that he intentionally screened at the rally, Tommy was guaranteeing that there would be
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a way that he could come out the other side looking like a victim, which guarantees that
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the donations will keep coming and the shitheads on the streets will continue terrorizing migrants.
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Also, according to The Independent, nine people were arrested at the rally and there were
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a bunch of fights.
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Two people were arrested, quote, on suspicion of grievous bodily harm, which was two Tommy
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fans assaulting a counter protester.
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Another person was arrested for assaulting a trans pride activist.
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Someone was arrested for snapping someone's Palestinian flag and making racially abusive
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remarks.
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Someone was arrested for assaulting an emergency worker, and then later four people were arrested
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for assaulting emergency workers outside a pub.
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Like everything Tommy is involved in, this is all just a racist scam, and I think it's
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important to understand that element of it.
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So probably unsurprisingly, Tommy Robinson is a big fan of Elon Musk, which I don't think
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anyone, that's not going to take anyone off their, out of their heels or shoes or whatever
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the expression is.
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Tommy was kicked off Twitter, obviously, because of his behaviors.
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Back in the day, he was kicked off.
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Not like recently.
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No, actually recently he was let back on.
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Let back on.
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Yeah.
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Elon Musk let him back on.
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So talk a little bit about how Elon Musk is the key to getting their message out and stuff,
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because of course.
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Of course.
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The trust in the media is gone.
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The monopoly in the power that they had to deceive the public about us has gone.
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It's gone.
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Partly thanks to Elon Musk.
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Elon Musk has opened us back up, gave a voice for reality, a voice for the truth, gave us
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back a platform where people can share the outrageous decisions the police are making,
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share the horrific, terrible stories of what's happening in towns and cities across the country.
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And in the last few months, I'll say you've seen the brewing of a mini revolution in Great
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Britain.
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Since this since Saturday, there's now been protests, unfortunately, not not led by us.
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They're like rudderless ships.
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And there's been violence in many cities across the country.
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That's because there's been so many racially targeted attacks on white people.
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And the prime minister calls Brits protesting murder of three young girls by an illegal
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alien man, a promise to keep the Muslim community safe.
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I mean, the system is really asking for it.
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Well, this is really lit people up, you say?
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See, that's interesting, because Tommy Robinson's answer isn't yes, right?
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He goes on to another thought like Alex just served up a like a meatball right over home
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plate.
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Yeah, he didn't swing necessarily at it.
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He took the conversation in his own direction, which is very British of quite, quite British.
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Also, I mean, there is lying about this, this murder at the dance class, like, what Tommy
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is essentially saying is that Elon Musk allows us to put a false version of our story out,
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that is intensely profitable, right?
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And we, I, I really appreciate him letting us spread our shit on his site.
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You know, I was, this is the fun thing about time, right?
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Because I was thinking about, while he was saying all that stuff, I was thinking about
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Marx, and I was thinking like, you know, TV is the opiate of the masses.
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I was thinking about Calvin talking about Marx.
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Oh.
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TV is the opiate of the masses.
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I thought you were talking about Zeppo.
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No, no, no, no.
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And it is like, but maybe it's a good opiate.
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Maybe we need to, maybe we need to go back to like when everybody was watching four channels,
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Carson was ruling the earth, and we're all just high all the time.
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Sure.
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On TV that shuts off, and when the TV shuts off, you went to bed.
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Shut up.
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Well, I do think we all miss that sign-off when TV stations would be like, we're done
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for the night.
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Those, ah, those were good, those were the days.
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That was an interesting thing.
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I think if you could find a way to make it a little bit more equitable and still have
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four channels, maybe we're onto something.
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There is a difficulty, yeah.
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It was a time where a very particular type of people held all the gatekeeping positions.
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You know, when I stop and think about the number, it does seem small.
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It does seem maybe too small for several hundred million people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, you're talking about time.
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Sure.
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And, you know, Tommy Robinson is back on.
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We're back in 2016, basically.
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And I just, I almost had like, I almost fainted at how much we're just basically back in time.
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Let's talk about the rally with 100,000 people and you getting arrested.
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People even, the listeners are tuned in, you top it in, they said arrested on terrorism
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charges for peacefully speaking.
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What happened there?
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So I held the rally, 100,000 people.
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We had music, we had a celebration, we had a beautiful day, an absolute beautiful day.
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Do you know what?
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It reinstalled in the public.
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Do you know, I went to Poland years ago and I attended a rally with 100,000 people.
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Red flag.
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And I felt jealous.
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And the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I said, look at the patriotism.
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Look at it.
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They know who they are.
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They celebrate.
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It was for their 100 year anniversary of independence.
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They know who they are.
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We don't have that.
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And Tommy went to the same march where Stefan Molyneux went and decided, hey, I'm a white
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nationalist now.
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I'm a white nationalist.
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But Stefan, I mean, Steven Yaxley Lennon, you already knew that.
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He didn't go in with the same sort of pretend rationality that Molyneux did, but they were
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at the same march and inspired to their white identity.
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It should probably be more remarked upon that whenever the alt-right or the less conservative
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people are expressing wistfulness, it is towards Nazis being able to call themselves Nazis
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in public.
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It is kind of strange how wistful they are towards that ability.
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The hair on the back of their neck stands up when people even speak freely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's just us.
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Oh boy.
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Oh, not good.
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Oh boy.
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Not good at all.
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So Alex makes up a little bit of a fake version of the story also.
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He says that Tommy was arrested as if the rally that he held was terrorism.
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And that's not true.
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He was trying to flee the country before his court date, so the police arrested him using
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counter-terrorism authority that they had.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And they say that his rally was terrible.
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That's a complete fraud that Alex is trying to project on.
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Right, right, right.
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Hey, listen.
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Pre-9-11, Tommy Robinson, you would have been able to get away.
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Let's just face it.
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You would have just been out of the border, no problem.
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Right.
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And if you were like, you know, anybody worth their salt, you would have swam off that island.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There was back in the day, you used to just walk out into the ocean and if you made it,
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you made it.
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Good for you.
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Right.
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Rent a boat.
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Don't go to the channel station.
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Tommy only gets one oar.
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One!
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So Tommy is in trouble because he got sued for lying about a child, which led to the
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child and his family seeing a bunch of harassment and all this shit.
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So Tommy got sued about that and the court said, can't make these claims anymore.
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Literally it shouldn't be that hard.
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Tommy made a documentary about how he was right and how everyone's wrong and then aired
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that and then got in trouble when he tried to flee the country because he breached the
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terms of the lawsuit.
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But Alex wants to relitigate everything and be like, hey, you know, you were maybe actually
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right about stuff.
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He tries to run cover for Tommy.
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One second.
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Sorry.
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I just realized something crazy.
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He was arrested at the border for trying to flee the country and then was set bail?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well no, I think the authority on which they arrested him, they couldn't hold him any longer
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after he posted bail.
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So it wasn't like, but they let him post bail?
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He's a flight risk, but look, I don't pretend to understand the British.
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It didn't strike me until that moment that maybe there was something else.
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We have a suspicion that you're going to flee the country.
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We let you go.
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You flee the country.
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Damn, we were all right.
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You were so good.
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We were all right about that one.
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So yeah, here, Alex tries to run a little cover for the initial lawsuit causing claims.
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So at the demonstration three years ago, Alex, you remember three, four years ago, I made
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a documentary and the judge prevented the public seeing the documentary.
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He said, so I wasn't allowed to play the film or I'd face two years in prison.
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Well when I had...
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Hey, for those that don't know, the film was Muslims bragging about kidnapping and raping
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white girls.
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Well, the film was about threats by one.
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The film was about a totally deceived story.
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It was a story about Syrian refugees.
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You were exposing the grooming gangs.
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Yeah, in this city, this is the city where the grooming gangs went on, but the documentary
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was more about the media's manipulation and lies and how they covered up a story and then
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changed the narrative for the public.
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Tommy is an interesting fellow because Alex is trying to be like, don't worry about why
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he was in trouble.
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He was doing something good.
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And Tommy has to be like, well, actually that's not quite accurate.
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The grooming gangs thing was another time that I caused a big public stir.
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This is a different one.
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This is about a Syrian kid that I talked shit about.
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I like it whenever they have a sort of misplaced pride in what they do or it's like, hey, listen,
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I'm not just going to let you slander what I did.
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I have to be a little bit more, I have to push back.
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I'm not just going to allow you to say whatever.
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That single was off a different album, my man.
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Right?
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Just let it go, Tommy.
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Let it go.
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Play along with this, Tommy.
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Even people who watch the documentary are going to lie about it to other people.
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Yeah.
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I watched a little bit of his documentary.
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Oh yeah?
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Not good.
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Well, is that a lie?
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Well, no.
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It's all true.
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I did watch a little bit of it.
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I turned it off after half an hour and it is true that it is not good, but Alex loves
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him.
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Alex loves this guy.
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I said, why do you expect me to give you my sources of information?
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Because if you get into my phone, you can see all the people.
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It's my work phone.
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I'm a journalist.
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If you've took my phone, you've took my journal.
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Sure.
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It's totally true.
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I want to shift gears out of that.
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This is so important the time we have with you.
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You got to come back for like two hours if you can soon.
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I love you, brother.
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One of my bucket list is to meet you in person.
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You're such a hero.
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But you'll say you're not a hero.
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You're driven.
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I get it.
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I'm the same way.
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But explain to me how big this rally is and what they're going to do now.
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Because for people that think, oh, they just put Labour around, that's because they voted
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out the Conservatives because they were fake.
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Everywhere people are voting folks out, the numbers show people are awake.
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They've got to be in panic mode right now.
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Yeah, so Alex's bucket list includes meeting Tommy Robinson in person, which is nuts because
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he hasn't yet then.
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That's shocking.
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I would have thought they would have met by now.
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Well, is Tommy not allowed in the United States?
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Maybe not.
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I think he's not allowed in other countries.
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Alex is allowed in the UK.
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Is Alex allowed in the UK?
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Yeah, I'm sure he could go.
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I mean, how about ideologically though?
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He went for Bilderberg that one time.
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Oh, that's true.
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But that was before Tommy Robinson was a known quantity, please.
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Or there was a queen back then.
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Now that there's a king, maybe you can't go back.
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You know?
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Reminds you too much of King George.
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Sure.
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So Alex loves him.
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This is just such a cool guy.
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Boy.
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So much so that in the clip we listened to before, Alex was running cover for Tommy and
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just like, here's no big deal, this is a fake story, he's covering up grooming gangs and
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what have you.
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All this isn't true.
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What happened was that Tommy saw some videos circulating online of this teenager, Jamal
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Hijazi, being attacked on a schoolyard.
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This kid threw him to the ground and then poured water on his face in a way that a lot
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of people had called waterboarding, which, I mean, I don't know.
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It is, but it's also, I understand why that term is loaded, but whatever.
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It was a pretty clear assault on a child that was being carried out by white youths.
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So Tommy immediately began running defense for the attackers, claiming that Hijazi was
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quote, not innocent, and he violently attacks young English girls in his school.
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So Tommy had this instinctual reaction and in response, Hijazi and his family were threatened
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and harassed to the point where they needed to move out of town for their safety.
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Hijazi sued Tommy for this and many other defamatory claims that were made, and a judge
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ruled that Tommy failed to prove any of his claims and that quote, the defendant's contribution
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to this media frenzy was a deliberate effort to portray the claimant as being far from
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an innocent victim, but in fact, a violent aggressor.
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Tommy was ordered to pay a hundred thousand pounds and to cease for making these claims
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in the future.
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Right now, there's an anti-immigrant fervor that's rising up and Tommy knows damn well
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that he needs to strike when the iron's hot.
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This game is really profitable for him and his racist fans will keep supporting him as
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long as he continues to pretend to be a victim for them.
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So here he is, intentionally doing something that will cause a legal response in order
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to profit from pretending it's all persecution against him because he's white.
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And it's just, Alex is, he knows what he's doing.
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This game is very see-through.
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Yeah, and they let him get away.
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You know, you stay in jail and you do the thing and you're like, ah, I will fight and
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do the whole thing.
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You know, you do the Mandela.
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I know he's a monster, but you do the Mandela.
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I wonder if it's a situation where you couldn't keep him in prison because this is a civil
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thing.
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You know, like it is a lawsuit and you breach the terms of that lawsuit.
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So maybe there is like a, you know, we can't hold you longer than X amount of time if you
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post bail.
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Yeah.
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I mean, at that point though, it would be nice if the legal system would just be like,
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hey, listen, we're not equipped to deal with you.
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I guess you're fine.
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Bye.
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Or it'd be like, we understand you in the context of who you are.
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Sure.
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And granted, you're just violating the terms of a lawsuit that you lost, but also bigger
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picture.
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I mean.
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You're Tommy fucking Robinson.
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I don't know.
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We know what you're up to.
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The law is the law.
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So Tommy is pretty aware that what's going on right now is going to turn into a wave
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of violence directed towards migrants.
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And I think he's pretty excited for it.
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Amazing historical time happening.
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Repeat what you were saying on the break to me about the awakening that's happening and
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let's start talking about your film and the clubs are going to play next segment.
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Mate, I said, I've been doing this 15 years.
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The public weren't ready.
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They haven't been ready to listen.
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They didn't want to listen.
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They're ready now.
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I'm telling you they're ready.
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They're ready from one end of Britain to the other.
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I know right now, as we're talking, Alex, riots are kicking off in Sunderland.
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There's 20 cities that demonstrations are coming out.
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I know it's not.
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I try and say to people, the anger from the British public is 100 percent justified.
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The men in these hotels have raped, committed murder, jihad across the country.
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The government are placing undocumented migrants they know nothing about into towns and cities.
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Parents feel they've got no safety for their kids anymore.
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It's gone.
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We feel lost as a nation.
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Yeah.
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People.
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So what we managed to do in two successful events with a lot of hard work was control
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and harness that anger.
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What you're seeing now over the last three days and what you're going to see in the coming
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weeks is unharnessed, raw emotion and anger, frustration, resentment, all of it.
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People are furious.
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They're raging.
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They're raging.
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And the same thing.
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The same thing is happening in Ireland.
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Same thing in Ireland.
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They've took away their safety.
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They've took away the safety of your children.
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And people now know that they've brought in people who are hostile and violent to our
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nation who are never going to integrate or assimilate ever.
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It's not going to work.
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You've mixed oil and water and they knew it.
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They knew what they were doing when they were bringing them in.
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So this was on Friday and on Sunday was when this group stormed a refugee hotel.
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So it's pretty clear to see that this is what the wave Tommy is trying to ride.
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He is encouraging of all this stuff and profits from it.
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He incites it and then acts like he's the victim in the entire operation.
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It's just disgusting.
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Okay.
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So at the beginning, though, he's saying that he can direct the anger?
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Like couldn't they build barns or something?
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Like are the Amish just angry all the time?
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Is that what's really going on?
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You've talked yourself into this, but no.
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He is saying that he can direct the anger in all this.
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And he has.
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Build barns.
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He has.
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Maybe build a hotel right next to the hotel.
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I thought you said Bill Barnes, like that's Barnes' brother.
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No.
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What?
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William Barnes?
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Did you just say, hey, Blinken?
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What there is here is a recognition on his part that they can direct this anger and they
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can foment this.
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And he's trying to pretend that rioting and an outbreak of violence directed towards migrants
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isn't what he is directing this violence towards.
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He's trying to pretend.
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They're like, oh, whatever happens, this is what you get.
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This is not the result of my agitation, my fear mongering, my bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Well, he won.
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He escaped.
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He's in Cyprus.
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He got away.
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That's some cops and robbers stuff right there.
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It's very tough to accept as reality because it is somebody who basically lit a fuse and
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then ran away.
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And then ran away and got away with it and got money and gets to live in a super nice
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resort.
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Where have I heard of that before?
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I do hope that there is some consequence that will befall this.
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I hope that he loses all his money.
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No, I understand religion now.
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And I hope that he can't go back to the UK ever again.
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No, I get it.
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I get it.
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But this is just horrific behavior and the consequences continue.
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It ripples and that's no good.
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Yeah.
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I get why people don't believe in God, but really hope for a devil.
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So there's one thing that could make things a lot worse in the circumstances.
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I think if Elon Musk shares this film, it may save my life because they're locking me
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up.
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Now, locking me up is possible or probable death in the prison system.
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Maybe that's what they want.
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Yeah.
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Maybe that's what they want.
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And by the way, you tried to go to Canada.
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They arrested you there.
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I wish you would just come here.
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You're a political refugee.
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You're a political prisoner.
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I would love to come to the United States for Americanics, but I'd wait till Trump wins
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man.
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And then I'd be desperate to.
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I'd love to.
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Yeah, we get it.
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So yeah, if Elon Musk just tweets this film out, he's just begging.
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Yeah.
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That must be, I mean, he could probably live in Utah.
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I think he's got it.
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Oh, I think there's a number of places Tony Robinson could hide out.
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Yeah.
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I think he'd be fine.
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I think there's a Louisiana parish out there for him.
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I think he's got it.
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Yeah.
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But I do understand what he's saying with the, uh, I'm going to wait until Trump gets
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in.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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Yeah.
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I would definitely.
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Then I'll be made a secretary of some sort.
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I mean, yeah, it is like, hey, listen, I know I'm not from there, so I can't run for office
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or whatever it is, but, uh, I can be appointed to do a lot of shit.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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What a mess.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, we have one last clip here and I think it's Tommy, uh, pretty well describing the
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role that he plays in, in these things.
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It's been a year since you've been on.
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You've got to get on next week.
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We'll do it again before I would tell you, stay out of the UK for more than two weeks.
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Take time with your family.
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Please don't go right back there.
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Let this build, please.
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I'm pretty sure what the judge has said is I have till October and that's what the judge
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has said.
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But between now and October, I'm going to pour petrol on the fire.
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Sat here.
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Okay.
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I'm going to, I've got a lot of podcasts, a lot of interviews set up.
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I've got Jordan Peterson part two.
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I've got, um, which you've got, I've got some big ones lined up, Alex.
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So yeah, he pours petrol onto the fire.
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That's that's his role.
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He is, he is somebody who's stoking these, uh, these flames.
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That's what he does.
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He knows what he does.
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He knows his job.
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He does his job.
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I mean, I guess, I guess people want it.
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I guess.
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I guess that's why people listen to him show up on shows.
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I don't know what to say.
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I think that, uh, Tommy Robinson is somebody whose act is very thin, uh, very see-through,
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very obvious to the extent that if you're somebody who is a part of the right wing ecosystem
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and the media sphere, um, you should know better than to have him on.
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I think that, you know, that what you're doing is helping him throw fuel onto the fire.
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You know, you're doing that because his game is very obvious.
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It has been.
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Well, I mean, he said it.
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Yeah.
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And hence he was a fucking guy on the street fighting a soccer hooligan type shit.
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Yeah.
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Like he has been his whole life.
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Yeah.
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There was a time when maybe there's a plausible deniability.
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Who's this interesting British fellow who's coming over here saying right wing talking
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points?
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Sure.
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Boy, he has a nice haircut.
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Yeah.
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I think that there was a point, and maybe that was 2016, I don't know.
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There was a point when you could accept the idea, oh, maybe he's going to go on Dave
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Rubin's show.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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The fact that he is now on Alex's show in 2024 and he's saying he's going to be on Jordan
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Peterson's show is a damning indictment of both Alex and Jordan Peterson.
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I mean, yeah.
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It'd be nice if they just took responsibility for themselves, like, hey, Tommy, we want
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people to get hurt by you and your friends.
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Yes.
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We want to help you throw fuel on the fire that is directing this hostility and anger
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towards these marginalized communities as an excuse for why your life isn't as good
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as it could be.
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Right.
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While at the same time acting like they still have plausible deniability.
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But I guess everybody's treating them like they still have plausible deniability, so
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I guess they do.
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But I don't think you're going to see Tommy show up on as many shows as he might have
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in 2015, 2016.
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Sure.
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I think a lot of people recognize him as a toxic commodity that they don't want to be
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associated with.
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Yeah, but that's what concerns me about him running away to Cyprus is because that's a
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cool thing to do.
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I think that might've just been a vacation.
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Already planned?
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Motherfucker.
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No, I would imagine not, but I don't think he's staying there.
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Why not?
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It's expensive.
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Well, that's fair.
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You can only crowdfund that so much.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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That's fair.
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But I mean, come on, why go back?
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Once you get out of this-
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Be free.
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When you get outed as being at a luxury resort, it kind of hurts your ability to be like,
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I'm a man of the people.
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It kind of hurts your ability to rabble, rouse, and throw gas on the fire.
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Eventually, people will start to come around and realize, oh, we're being used.
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Yeah, yeah, you would hope.
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Fuck you, Tommy.
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Yeah, yeah, it'd be a lot harder to set a hotel on fire if a guy who owned a bunch of
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hotels was like, hey, you guys should take down that hotel.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I don't own that hotel.
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You might start to understand that either you profit off the competitors' hotels being
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burned down, or you have insurance on that hotel.
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There is that.
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Whatever it is, you have a vested interest in my anger being directed in a certain way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And maybe I shouldn't do that.
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Listen, you were so mad you built a barn, but now I can't be.
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You didn't pay me for it, so now you're so mad you're going to pay me.
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I hate Tommy Robinson.
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I think he sucks.
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I think it's sad that Alex has no standards.
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I honestly think that if I worked at Infowars, and let's say I just have conservative beliefs,
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like maybe I want to audit the Fed.
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Maybe I believe in states' rights.
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Sure.
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Right?
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I have these conservative beliefs.
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Absolutely.
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I think I would quit if he had Tommy on in 2024.
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I think I would be like, fuck you.
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Are you serious?
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This is beyond whatever you're pretending to be.
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That's a really good question.
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You can't have Tommy on and pretend that what you're doing is not trying to incite violence
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against people.
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Yeah.
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No, that's such a great question because it's like, would 2024 Tommy Robinson go on a show
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in 2016 and everybody goes, we're done.
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But now that it's 2024, are people going to be more likely to be like, I'm sick of your
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shit?
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Or are they more like, I'm pot committed.
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I've already gone this far.
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I think 2024 Tommy Robinson is a little more explicit than he was in 2016.
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Right.
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That's what I'm saying.
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He was more guarded back then because there was the potential of becoming... He worked
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at Rebel Media and there was the idea that maybe he could become a right-wing star, but
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he's too far.
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Yeah.
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I think for anybody who wants to remain anywhere close to relevance to be associated with,
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he is too much.
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Yeah.
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So I think that 2024 Tommy coming to a lot of these other places, I think it wouldn't
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have flown as well because he's gotten a bit more explicit.
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Right.
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But then, yeah, also, he still speaks in some code.
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Yeah.
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So it's almost scary to think about because the scary answer is, what if 2024 Tommy Robinson
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goes back to 2016 and jumpstarts everything and everybody goes, finally, he's saying it
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openly.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It took us maybe people really-
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He's suggesting a time loop.
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I mean, maybe people really wanted 2024 back in 2016, but then, and that's why things have
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just kept getting more and more, I don't know.
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Well, I will say that I think-
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Explicit is what I'm trying to say, yeah.
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I do think that 2024 Tommy would have been fine on 2016 InfoWars.
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Yeah.
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Well.
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But if I were this person, this hypothetical non-existent InfoWars employee, just as conservative
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values.
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Just conservative values.
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I don't think I would be morally required to quit in 2016 with Tommy Robinson coming
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on.
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Right.
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I think in 2024 you are.
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Right.
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Because otherwise, you know what you're doing.
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Yeah.
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It is eight years later.
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He knows what he's doing.
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You know who this guy is.
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Yeah.
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You've seen what he's done.
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You can't defend this shit.
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Yeah.
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You know exactly what he's about and having him on is only in service of trying to sanitize
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and justify his career and amplify the damage that he does.
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Right.
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You are invested in participating in the damage that he does.
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Yeah.
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And I think that you're morally required to not be involved in that.
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Right.
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That being said, InfoWars is now as bad as Tommy Robinson.
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Has to take responsibility for what they desire.
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You can't be both.
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Yeah.
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I do think there's something to that.
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Yep.
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Oh, well.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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We'll win.
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We'll see where Alex is at.
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I guess he's still the ghost in the machine.
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Oh, I forgot he was the ghost in the machine.
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That was a whale.
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I told you this is all for stupid.
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That was forever ago.
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That was yesterday on this episode.
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Yeah.
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That was an infinite time period.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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So then we have a website.
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Do we do it?
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Dodgefight.com.
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Yep.
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I'm debatably Neo.
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I might be Leo.
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I'm D.Z.X.
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Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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