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Andy Enchanze.
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Andy Enchanze.
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Andy Enchanze.
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Andy Enchanze.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a Christian caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.
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N-n-n-n-n-knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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Sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Here you go.
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My bright spot is very obviously Final Fantasy VII Rebirth coming out on Thursday.
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I mean, it's, this is life altering.
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It is.
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It is.
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You've been waiting for this for 20 odd years.
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Well, I mean, the remake was essentially sticking together with the story, adhering to it closely
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while, you know, opening up the reality that we're going to change.
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This is when it finally goes off on its own storyline, the rebirth.
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Oh, so it won't follow it so tightly.
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It won't.
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There might be even a moment that fans are fully aware of.
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Sure, I even know what you're talking about.
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Yeah, that might not happen, but nobody knows.
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I mean, everybody knows.
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I feel like everyone's going to riot if it does, or doesn't.
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Or doesn't, yeah.
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Either way, you've screwed it for someone.
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Yeah.
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It is the last Jedi of choices to make in Final Fantasy VII.
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Well, it's very exciting for you.
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I'm happy for you.
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You know, it's always, you know, I feel like it would be like for me how I would feel if
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a new Donkey Kong Country came out.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There's a level of excitement that everybody just needs to respect and be like, hey, you're
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going to be on one for a bit, and that's okay.
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It is going to be a while.
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It is going to be a while.
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It's always interesting, too, because, you know, whenever you've played the, I even tried
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speedrunning FF7, so the story I know by heart, you know, to an extent of like being able
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to recite lines and shit.
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So to have a new take on it is like a little fan fiction and a little bit of a, ooh, ooh,
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what canon might available now?
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Yeah, it's fun.
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Sweet.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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How about you?
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I guess my bright spot is we just went and got brunch and that was nice, but it wasn't
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brunch.
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It was not.
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We didn't have brunch, but I got some mac and cheese.
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It was good.
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Yeah, it was nice to go get a little meal.
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It's always nice.
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So anyway, Jordan, today.
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Yes.
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Good bright spot.
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It was a nice time.
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It was good.
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So today we have an episode to go over.
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We're not going to hit all the beats of this episode.
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I'm going to say that in advance.
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We're going to skip over a little bit of stuff because, you know, this is more of a bulletin.
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Right.
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So we're going to kind of get this, something happens and it really, really feel like we
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need to chime in.
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I need your take on some things.
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Sure.
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And so we'll go down to business on that, talking about a lot of what happened last
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Friday on February 23rd.
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But before we get to the business of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to
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some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Kevin Mag.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Ric Flair woos in the distance.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, for John and Eli, keeping it blue in a very red South Dakota.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Michelle from St. Louis has a special interest in the show Bonanza.
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That show is incredibly woke.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I don't know.
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Most of my Bonanza knowledge comes from Bonanas for Bonanas.
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I feel like it doesn't seem that woke.
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Every time I hear him say, hop, sing, I go, not good.
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Troublesome.
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Treatment of women, a little bit iffy.
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Not great.
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Not great.
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Well, they're mostly dead.
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That's what I found out through the show.
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So next, Eddie V says, thank you so much, and how about that infinite wealth, eh?
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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I had a bit of fun.
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I think the game seems to have third act problems that has made it so I have a difficulty completing
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the game.
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I haven't finished it.
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I think the culture in 2024 has third act problems.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, well.
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I enjoyed it while I enjoyed it.
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I think it was fantastic at the beginning and middle, and then towards the end, I've
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just sort of trailed off.
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You know, I've never been rewarded for waving to people while walking down the street before.
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That was a lot of fun.
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That was spectacular.
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That was.
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If that's all I got out of it.
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And befriending chickens.
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Fantastic.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Good times.
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Yeah.
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We got a technocrat next, Jordan, so thank you so much, too.
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I'm sweating in this demon feast.
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You're the best, Joel.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes.
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Thank you very much.
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In this episode, Alex comes in and he is, woo hoo hoo, happy.
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He's happy.
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Victory.
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Victory.
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Victory.
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Victory.
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Victory.
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How is that possible?
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Across the board in victories.
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I feel like that is absolutely not possible.
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It's, well, he gets into why he's in this mood, and it turns out there's some promising
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poll numbers for Trump, and so Alex declares that Trump is going to win in a landslide
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that we haven't seen the likes of since George Washington.
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Fair enough.
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So that's great.
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All right.
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So everybody hates the fucking New World Order.
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That is true.
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And so Alex tells the story of him going to Hawaii, which we know was him going-
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Spying on Bill Gates' house, right?
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He said he was on a work trip.
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Or Zuckerberg.
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Zuckerberg.
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Zuckerberg, yeah.
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He said he was going on a work trip.
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Right.
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That was the excuse for going to Hawaii.
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Of course.
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But in this telling of it, he retells the story, and it was a family vacation.
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Oh, he was.
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And some weirdo just came up to him and was like, hey, I work at Zuckerberg's compound.
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And so then this guy told him stuff about Zuckerberg's compound on how much everybody
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hates Zuckerberg.
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All right.
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And so that turned it into a work trip, apparently.
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That should be immediately disqualifying.
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If you are an InfoWars listener, it shouldn't be about politics.
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It shouldn't be about anything.
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You should still agree with Alex if your heart desires.
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But the moment you found out he was lying about it being a work trip?
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Fuck that guy.
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Well- I'm out of here.
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I feel like a lot of people can identify with that.
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Sure.
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Scam and work time.
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You know, trying to deduct things that maybe aren't deductible.
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I think people can relate.
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Fair.
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All the people.
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Yeah.
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They want to kill Zuckerberg.
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They're going to kill him in that hole.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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If when the shit goes down, they're going to get him.
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Shit.
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We're all getting on boats to Hawaii.
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And it turns out this probably is a big part of Alex's great mood, is that everyone keeps
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telling him they want to kill Alex's enemies.
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Okay.
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New World Order, you are completely screwed.
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And you know why they all want to kill you?
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They know you released the virus.
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They know you're driving up the prices.
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They know you hate everybody.
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They know you treat everybody like crap.
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They recognize you as the enemy.
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And it's the same thing all over the world.
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Everybody hates Klaus Schwab.
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Everybody hates Bill Gates.
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Everybody hates Justin Trudeau.
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Anybody with a brain hates Barack Obama.
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It's over.
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Do you understand that I can't walk down the street without people pulling over and telling
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me they want to kill you?
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Pulling over?
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That's what the public really tells me.
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And I go, no, no, no.
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We're going to fix this peacefully.
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No, no, no, no.
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Wait, why are you saying that?
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Two people pulling over.
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And try to pull on heartstrings and make it look like we're violent to head that off.
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That's why we don't want to do that.
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You don't sound violent.
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We're going to win politically, but they'll probably push it in a full armed revolt and
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conflict and then fine.
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Wait, they'll push it into a full armed revolt and conflict.
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But do what they're going to do.
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They're going to cut the power.
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Ah, yes.
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So, yeah, I mean, his people don't, like, they don't sound violent.
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They just pull over in their vehicles and yell, hey, I want to kill Klaus Schwab and
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Alex.
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That doesn't sound like people who are, you know, kind of primarily motivated by violent
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fantasies.
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Now I'm going to throw this out at you.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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If you're saying my people are pulling their cars over to tell me how murderous they are.
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But they're not violent.
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And then you tell me that they, as in the other people, are going to start a conflict.
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Sure.
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I mean, I feel like they, okay?
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It's entirely possible that they may technically start a conflict, but I feel like if you don't
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need to even light the match to have somebody go, yeah, it's on fire, then it's kind of
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not on you.
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Yeah.
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I think that, I mean, just a really even simpler thing is, hey, my people seem to be organized
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around shared violent fantasies.
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Sure.
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But we're not violent.
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Nonviolent.
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I think that's difficult to square.
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I think that everyone would love to kill Clashwab, these people that Alex is talking about.
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And let's pause.
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Sure.
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Alex doesn't have people pulling over all the time and yelling at them that they want
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to kill Clashwab.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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That's incredibly murderous, right?
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That's far more murderous.
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Stopping your car and yelling at Alex Jones?
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Absolutely.
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Going out of your way?
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That's too murderous.
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Hey, roll down the window.
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Roll down the window.
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I want to kill Clashwab.
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Maybe, maybe a honk or two.
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Uh-huh.
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I mean, you know, honk once for kill Clashwab, honk twice for keep him alive peacefully.
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What if you replace your horn with I will not eat the bugs?
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I will not eat the bugs.
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So this is a good headspace.
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Okay.
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There's a story that's been going on through Alex's show over the last couple days, and
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that's the story about Google's AI, the Gemini.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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You heard about this?
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Uh, damn it.
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Sorry, Johnny.
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Did you hear about this?
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Did you hear about the AI?
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Sorry.
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Did you?
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Yeah, I've heard about Gemini.
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I've heard about Gemini.
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What happened?
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Do you heard about the image generation?
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Oh no, it made everybody black.
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Yeah, it made everybody black for a day and everybody went insane.
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Not exactly that, but yes, generally.
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This is a huge story for Alex, and basically the way it's being told is that Google is
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trying to erase white people from the internet.
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I mean, come on.
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How do you not just go, well, isn't that fun?
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So Alex talks about this a bit here.
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AI didn't just erase white people overnight on Google with 92% of world searches.
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They stole the identity of white people.
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Leaf Harris in South America is now black.
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That doesn't help black people to steal his identity.
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You tried to search this engine and turn Shaka Zulu into a white person you couldn't.
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Why are they doing it?
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To enrage and piss off white people like we're a giant prison and put us all in our own sexes
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of the prison.
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Why does it piss you off?
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Should be a bigger question.
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Instead of us agreeing on a set of facts and freedoms in a constitutional republic in a
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limited democracy where the minority as well as the majority are protected.
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This is psychological warfare next level.
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So this is the big narrative that's guiding Alex's coverage at the present.
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It's about Google's AI called Gemini, which had some problems with their image generation
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system.
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It was launched and then they had some parameters for generation that were meant to address
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inherent biases in the data that the AI was pulling from.
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Of primary importance for our purposes, they were aware that the overwhelming amount of
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data they were pulling from was from the United States and Europe, but that their user base
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was global.
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So they wanted to make the people that were generated from prompts more diverse than they
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might have been just based on the data set that the AI was pulling from.
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This went a little off track because an anti-wokeness crusader on Twitter tried to generate a picture
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of the founding fathers and they were not white people, which of course means that Google
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and the globalists are trying to erase white people from the internet and trying to rewrite
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history so you think that white people never existed.
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I think this is my favorite.
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This is 100% only important if you are a white supremacist.
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I understand you may think that you're angry about this for any other reason, but anybody
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who is not a white supremacist went, huh, that's it.
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That's the whole thing.
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That's what they did.
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They went, huh, that's it.
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And their response was, what's going on there?
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Yeah.
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I'm curious about what happened.
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And then you learn what happened and it's like, oh, that's understandable.
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I get it.
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That happens.
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Yeah.
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So the problem that Gemini had was with its programming and it was that they didn't specify
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when a generated person was arbitrary and when it wasn't.
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For instance, when you're talking about specific people, it doesn't make sense that the output
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would differ from the actual person.
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Right.
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But when you're asking for a general prompt like people walking down the street, it is
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fairly arbitrary what race the people are and what they might be.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So long story short, because they messed that up, Alex and his buddies have been screaming
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about how this proves that white genocide is here.
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Gemini's image creation, generation was taken down to be retooled, but the damage is mostly
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done in terms of the propaganda games.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's fairly simple.
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They were like, hey, we've seen every other AI do that thing where it's like, generate
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people and they're white people and then it's like, generate people who are being arrested
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and then they're black people.
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And you're like, I know exactly what you guys are doing.
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Yeah.
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So then they were like, let's not do that this time.
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And instead they got Black George Washington and I'm all for it.
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Right, right.
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That is such a very understandable whoops.
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Yeah.
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That the company can make.
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Totally, totally.
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And it's something, it's a challenge and it's something that they can hopefully fix, but
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it doesn't matter.
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Like it will always be branded as like a white genocide AI generator to people like Alex.
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I mean, what's so fun about it is it truly is a stark comparison of just like either
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you understand and look through that and realize that skin color is nothing and if an AI just
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goes people and it could be anybody, you should probably think in your head, oh, it could
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be anybody.
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Or you go, welp, that is clearly trying to destroy the white race and I think you've
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proven who you are.
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Yeah.
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So I never use the tool myself and I don't trust most of the random stuff I see posted
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on Twitter because a lot of that shit's fake, but a lot of the anti-woke folk were claiming
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that you couldn't get Gemini to generate a picture of a white person.
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And this is something that Alex is repeating.
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Right.
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I don't believe this is true and the Washington Post reported, quote, before Google blocked
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the image generation feature Thursday morning, Gemini produced white people for prompt input
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by a Washington Post reporter asking to show a beautiful woman, a handsome man, a social
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media influencer, an engineer, a teacher, and a gay couple.
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Alex is saying they erased white people from over 92% of searches and that's a deeply inaccurate
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and painfully dramatic thing for him to say.
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Google is used in approximately 92% of searches on the web, but they didn't erase white people
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from Google, even if you want to pretend that they erased them from this image generator.
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Right.
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This is ridiculous.
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Right.
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This is really great for Alex though and you can tell he's in a great mood about it.
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This show primarily runs on the fuel of white victimhood and this narrative plays into that
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perfectly.
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Alex has spent a lot of his show yelling about this.
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I was considering covering it more, but honestly there's not much else to say about it other
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than this Gemini was programmed poorly in a very specific and understandable way they're
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now trying to address.
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Yeah.
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Alex and his ilk are exploiting that error that Google made in order to validate their
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addictive fears that they're under attack because they're white and that's all that's
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going on.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and again, just, just the level of freak out at the mere whiff of white not being
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default.
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Hmm.
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Just the level of insanity that can be responded to just because, just because of the idea.
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Like what if there was just black Google where the first image that showed up was just a
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black version of whatever you Googled, like they couldn't even handle that and it's not
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even real.
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No.
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No.
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Alex would lose their fucking mind in the world.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So Alex wants to talk about this and the fact that all of his friends want to kill Klaashwab
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and all them and you know, all the victories.
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Right.
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So he's going to go on Twitter, he's going to go on Spaces and open up the floor to people.
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Okay.
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The first person, Ed fucking Kreisenstein.
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What is going on?
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The other time there was a Spaces, Brian Kreisenstein was the first one and now Ed, they're just
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like haunting this.
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What do we, what do we got to do to get these guys out?
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It's a mess.
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So, um, I'm not going to play any of that because he's defending legitimately some of
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the best news I've ever heard.
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He's defending the, uh, the AI generator and it's not like an attack on white people.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Because yeah, but Alex is not, uh, he is not down because he's not down with that.
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And because this Google AI generator was an attack on white people and it is part of white
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genocide.
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Sure.
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He must insist that Elon Musk needs to now put out a search engine that will take over
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for Google.
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Obviously it was programmed.
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We know how AI works.
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Oh my God.
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You put in it what you want.
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You, they had to tell them no white people.
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I mean, this is a giant troll by Google.
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The question is why are they doing it?
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What comes out of this?
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They shouldn't have 90 plus percent of the search results.
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I don't just want Elon Musk to launch a new search system.
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I want, there should be 50 big search engines, but yeah, I have a lot more confidence in
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Musk than I do in Google.
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Please, Elon, launch your search system.
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Good God, we need it right now.
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Google is pure evil.
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Google is absolutely anti-human scum.
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I wouldn't be surprised if some alien from Mars is running it.
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I mean, they're so anti-civilization.
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I would be, I would be surprised if it was an alien from Mars.
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I'll explain something right now.
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I had the global try to hire me 20 million dollars a year.
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All the jobs, all the offers I never, I had kids to try to hire me.
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Was it from Mars?
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I told the crew because they wanted to control me.
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Little speedy, Alex.
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Calm down.
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I can let Elon Musk and say whether he's good or bad.
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That's up to him.
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I don't know.
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I'm on God, but he's doing irrevocable damage, reaching hundreds of millions of people a
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day per tweet, per post, wrecking them with stuff like this, okay?
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So I'm glad Google overplayed their hand with the AI image generator as it made their
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insane racist anti-civilization programming clear to all.
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I couldn't write that that good.
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It's the truth.
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And I, you can say Elon Musk is a bad person.
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Well, he shits anti-New World Order resistance.
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He shits victory.
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So I'm not going to sit there when coming out of his ass is victory and bitch about
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it.
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He's mad.
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I don't know.
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Maybe he's super smart in all of us.
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He's got some master plan to screw us.
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I don't know that.
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All I know is he is the number one, even above Trump wrecking ball right now on the anti-human
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anti-civilization dickheads that don't want humans to do crazy stuff.
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Don't want us to go to space, say we're all crap.
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Get rid of us.
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No, I don't believe in that and neither does Elon Musk and he's putting his money where
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his mouth is.
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I'm glad to be attacked by all the grandpas and everybody else that's purer than thou
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to say Elon Musk is the fricking devil.
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You judge a tree by its fruits and Elon Musk is wrecking their world.
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So yeah, he likes it.
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He likes Elon Musk quite a bit.
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Swearing a bit.
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He's off the chain here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm, I'm interested in how people can interpret Elon Musk's behavior as anything other than
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that of a spoiled child, a very, very stupid one.
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Fucked up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hateful in many ways.
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Very strange.
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Very strange that people can lionize that.
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Well, I think it's because it's targeted at the people that Alex wants to target.
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Right.
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And so it's super convenient to have the amount of power that Elon Musk does have.
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Sure.
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Aimed in the direction that he wants it to be, as opposed to, you know, the possibility
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that it could be aimed against him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's definitely true.
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So that's, yeah.
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Pick a billionaire.
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I found this to be, first of all, just a little bit sad.
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Yeah.
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Second, I feel bad for Tucker.
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He's no longer the most important man in the world if you're listening to this.
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Yeah, that's true.
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It does seem like Elon Musk is now the most important man in the world.
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I mean, Tucker, I mean, he did the interview with Putin.
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Alex has not really dwelled on it that much.
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Sure.
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I think it might have diminished things a little, because Putin said Tucker was weak.
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Now, and I'm going to say this, because, and I don't know if people in Alex's orbit are
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capable of recognizing a pattern, but generally speaking, he likes to trade up if possible.
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That is true.
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Like, oh, Rogan's a pretty big deal, aha, now I got Tucker tucking my shit.
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Oh, Tucker's a pretty big deal.
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Not as big deal as Elon-fucking-billionaire-ass-I-own-Twitter-Musk.
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I mean, I'm just never going to call it.
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Yeah, no.
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And the issue, too, is that you have to recognize that these things are so shifting, the sands
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are shifting, and based on Alex's own career and history, you know, he's turned on Joe
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before.
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Yep, everybody.
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Eventually, he's going to turn on Musk.
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Everyone does.
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He's turned on these figures constantly, because this is based on expedience, it's based on
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what's useful in the moment, and eventually, it's going to be way more useful to hate Elon
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Musk and just get there already.
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But I mean, even then, it's also attention-based, so it's like, once Elon Musk is no longer
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showing up at the spaces, Alex goes, oh, Elon Musk sucks and I hate him, and then Elon Musk
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feels like he has to show up at the space, because people have to reward bad behavior,
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and that is the basis of Alex's career.
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Well, maybe.
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But someone shows up at the spaces, and this person is critical of Elon Musk.
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Does Ed Krasenstein have a sock puppet account, too?
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No, I don't think so, but this person is critical of Alex, and Alex is a little defensive.
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The reason that I wanted to hop on this and talk with y'all is because I was curious.
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I haven't really heard anybody push back against Elon, and here's the thing, he's always a
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strong advocate about AI and the security around it, however, now he's got X, which
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is great, his free speech platform, or at least it seems like it is a little bit, but
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now he's got this huge data set from all the information that Twitter has gained over the
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years from all of its users, and then he's dressing up in a devil costume for Halloween,
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he's got a global internet, he's putting brain chips in people's brains, he's got XAI now.
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It seems like to me, out of all the people that are dealing with AI, he seems like the
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person that we should be questioning most.
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Don't get me wrong, it seems like he's on the side for good right now, but I don't see
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anybody calling him out.
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How do you hold those in your brain simultaneously, sir?
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He's wearing a Baphomet costume, it's a suit of armor made of leather, I mean, he's just
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throwing up some red flags, I mean, it seems like he's a white hat, seems like he's trying
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to do the right thing.
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Yeah, well my job is not defending that, it was Halloween, and I dressed up like a vampire
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on Halloween.
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You're a Nazi on Halloween?
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You dress up like a Nazi?
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We're a Nazi helmet.
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I mean, I hear you, I absolutely hear you.
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Okay, well, I've got to see you then.
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We should just put Twitter back, you see, hold on, we're gonna get on a break, I'm gonna
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come back to you, but should we just hand it back to where it was?
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Maybe we should.
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Maybe he should sell X and just get out of it, we'll censor everybody, that's better.
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That's like, again, that's a child.
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Yes, Caller is asking, like, obviously, he's a little out there, and he's definitely conspiracy-minded
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and what have you, but in terms of what he's bringing to the table, it is a sensible thought
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within this context.
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We should be concerned about this stuff, we have been trained to be conspiracy theorists,
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these are the subjects of many of our conspiracy theories, we have this weirdo billionaire
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who's pushing all this stuff.
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Who's the guy you've been warning us about?
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It seems like we should be upset and worried about this.
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And Alex's response is like, oh, maybe we should censor everybody again.
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It's like, that's not even a real response to what this guy is saying.
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You're treating the idea of criticizing Elon Musk in any way as some kind of awful thing
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to do.
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Yeah, I mean, it is one of the more infuriating aspects of the American team sport element
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of just like, I understand your criticism, and maybe it's even valid, but now's not the
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time because we're busy fighting those fucks.
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So bother with them, okay?
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Don't worry about, yay, Elon wants to put a chip inside the nape of your neck and then
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he'll be able to control your thoughts.
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But that's because you're a loser.
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Sure, he dresses up like the devil and apparently we're unhappy about that.
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That's a real problem for us.
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Well, obviously, I mean, like, obviously that level of thing, because the globalist
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speak in hidden messages and all this shit.
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So of course a Halloween costume is a subtle revealing of intentions and it's predictive
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programming.
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No, here's the problem.
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Here's the problem with us and our lives and what we've done to our brains is when he said
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that, I was like, that's a good point.
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He does dress like Baphomet.
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There you go.
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Can't escape that.
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That counts in this world.
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So Alex goes to break and he comes back.
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He is just intensely defensive because of the scholar.
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It's not about Elon Musk.
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It's about me as always, hundreds of millions of people a day conservatively each tweet
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like 50 million or more, 80 million, some 300 million.
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And he's doing stuff that we fought for generations to expose.
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And it's devastating and populism's exploding.
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So to me, the ongoing purity or like the Pharisee thing of like, oh, he's not perfect.
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Oh, he wasn't around 20 years ago doing this.
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We don't trust him.
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Forget Elon Musk.
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He's putting stuff out right now that hurts the globalist.
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Yeah.
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The neuro link and he wants to dominate every technology thing.
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My job is not to be an Elon Musk apologist, but I sure as hell am about to sit back when
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I'm watching coffin nails.
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I mean, I'm watching devastating and I'm seeing the awakening and I'm seeing the world change
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and I'm going to sit there and bitch like I'm some Puritan and then say, oh, well, I
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don't trust you.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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What does that have to do with it?
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Everything?
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When Elon Musk is devastating the current global structure, maybe he wants to take it
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over.
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Maybe he's a bad guy.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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What?
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No.
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What is that?
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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A little less talk, a little more action, a little more satisfaction.
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I'm getting nothing but satisfaction from Elon Musk right now.
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Yikes.
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So this is pathetic.
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Alex is hand waving away neuro link when his principles should tell him that this is the
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mark of the fucking beast.
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This is just pathetic.
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There's no other word that I can find that fits this, but you can see how very easily
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here, how Alex's world is based on convenience and on utility.
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Right now, Elon is a very useful thing for him.
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He's allowed Alex back on Twitter where he can spread misinformation so much easier than
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he could before and he could even monetize it.
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Plus Elon was on that space with Alex, which gives Alex the appearance of proximity to
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one of the richest people in the world.
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On top of that, Elon is a meme brain shithead who has all of the same culture war bigotries
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that Alex does.
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So Elon's tweets work as defacto advertisements or endorsements for Alex's show, whether they're
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intended to be or not.
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Alex loves that and needs that, so it doesn't matter to him that Elon is a walking red flag
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for conspiracy theorists.
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He wants to put chips in people's heads.
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He wants self-driving cars.
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He's running an AI off the giant worldwide social media platform that he bought and has
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government contracts that give him incredibly outsized influence in geopolitics in various
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regions.
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He's the person that Alex has warned about for all of his career.
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But there's one thing that gets in the way, which is that hating him would be inconvenient
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for Alex at the moment.
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He's clearly just back on Twitter because of Elon's whim, so Alex has to know that if
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he started being really critical of him, it would be just as easy for Elon to kick him
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back off.
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Alex is a fool and doesn't see that this is going to be a bad road for him in the long
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term.
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His audience is already skeptical of Musk and they aren't going to become less so because
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he's who they've been trained to be suspicious of.
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Alex can have as many of these defensive ass whiny, but I like him, diatribes as he wants.
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It won't change the fact that David Icke is taking the correct position in terms of this
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issue from a conspiracy business standpoint.
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Alex is just, there's something going on here.
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I don't know what it is, but there's something going on here.
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I mean, part of me says, is this just accidental transference?
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Alex is looking at a gigantic baby behaving the way Alex behaves, who is the most rich
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man?
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You know, like, so for people to criticize him is for people to de facto criticize Alex.
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Wait.
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Oh my God.
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Is it that psychologically bad?
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Let's hear the next clip.
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Let's just say this.
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Fine.
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Elon Musk should be deposed.
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He should take all of his products.
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He should give all his wealth to George Soros.
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No, no, I'm serious.
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Like Elon, I'm going to say it right now.
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Fine.
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I'm purer than all of you.
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Elon Musk should be arrested.
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All of his company's taken.
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Give it to George Soros.
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He should be publicly executed.
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I'm serious.
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I am the pure one.
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Fine.
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Elon's the bad guy.
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He should be arrested by George Soros and executed by Alexander Soros on national TV
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and hung.
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Fine.
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I'm better than all of you now.
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Elon Musk is bad.
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Elon Musk is the devil.
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Elon Musk is Satan.
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Elon Musk must be destroyed.
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Now I'm purer than all of you.
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Of course, I don't mean that.
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That's your career illness.
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It is mental illness when people actually oppose something to then claim, oh, it's a
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trick.
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He's fricking destroying them.
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This is what we've been waiting for.
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Oh, Joe Rogan's not real.
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He's control.
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I know him 25 years.
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I'm taking acid with him.
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I've been to 50.
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So I know he's honest?
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He's real.
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I'm sick of everyone claiming there isn't reality.
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I'm real people.
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Let me tell you one thing with me.
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I know I'm a real man.
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I love humanity.
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I love freedom.
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I want to expand the planet.
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I don't want to fuck everybody.
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And I've got to hear all day how I'm run by the government.
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That's bullshit.
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And so I kind of take the Elon thing and go, maybe he's like me.
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Maybe he really does want to challenge this and his actions do it.
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So why are we pissing on it?
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I just I'm sick of it.
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I'm pissed now, man.
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I am.
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I am just beyond.
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I am so we are so close to victory and these people are in the way and they because they
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don't want to win.
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Yeah.
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You might have been onto something.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There might be a little something there.
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You know, a lot of people think you need a psychology degree.
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I disagree.
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I think you just need to listen to several thousand hours of one person talking.
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You will know what's going on.
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Someone who has no self control and is often impaired on air.
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Yeah.
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I think you get a good sense of need the degree.
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I was pretty shocked that he said that, you know, because he's taking criticism of Elon
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Musk personally, because his perspective is wrapped up in fucked up feelings that he has
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about how people don't believe in him enough.
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He's projecting that onto Elon.
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So anytime people are criticizing him, it's a criticism of Alex himself.
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Yep.
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That's really messed up.
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You should not.
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You should not do that.
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You shouldn't do that.
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No, no.
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If you're Alex, you shouldn't do that.
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And once you know Alex is doing that, you definitely shouldn't listen to that clip is
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some of the most mopey defensive shit you can imagine.
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Alex is basically making a mockery of the idea of criticizing Elon.
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And then once he gets through that, he gets himself mad about the idea of people criticizing
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him.
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Like it's the part that's really sad is the constant need to pretend that he's not being
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an apologist from us when that's literally what he's doing in all of these petulant rants.
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That's the entire thing.
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He said, Elon is what we've been waiting for.
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This is ridiculous.
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I mean, it is, it is such that in the world that Alex is existing in, they should be like
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stepping back and be like, this is some Antichrist shit.
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Like even the fact that even the fact that a lot of us are buying his bullshit is part
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of the Antichrist bullshit.
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And like, we should be in here being like super vigilant.
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And I understand that that's, that would be in a rational position itself, but in the
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world they should exactly, exactly that.
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Like I said, Oh, you're wearing Baphomet clothing on Halloween.
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That's a good point.
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You know, like that's the world we're in.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, I, I don't know, like if I think that Alex has any kind of financial arrangement
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with being on Twitter.
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Sure.
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I don't know that.
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And I don't want to speculate that that is the case because you know, there's other explanations
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that do make sense.
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Right.
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When I say that there's something going on here, one element of it is this, um, projecting
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himself onto Elon Musk and his psychological entanglement or whatever it is.
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There's that.
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And that's fucked up.
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That's personal.
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And then I think that Alex, like he started to get up to a point where he's back to being
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heavily addicted to social media.
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I was about to say, I think he's an addict.
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The endorphins that you get from posting racist memes and then people like liking that.
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I think he's an addict who just can't get off.
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You get the imagined, uh, imagined effect of like, we're reaching millions and millions
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of people.
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A lot of that's bots and most of them are shitheads who already agree with you.
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So like, you're not really having advocacy in any real way.
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I want to ask you this question.
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I want to ask you this question, not because you know the answer obviously, but just as
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a speculative question, do you think on some like subconscious level, they are aware that
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part of why they can support Elon so full wholeheartedly is because he's a failure and
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none of, nothing he does will succeed.
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I don't know.
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You know, like he's, he doesn't make good cars and that's supposedly what he's great
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at.
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And then he does everything else.
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His shit in space explodes.
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Uh, I don't know, whatever he's done with Twitter is great.
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Sure.
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Uh, you know, like he tried to build that tunnel to nowhere.
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There was a big circle he was going to build to nowhere.
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The flamethrowers.
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Absolutely.
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Like he's an idiot and a failure in every possible way.
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He's just a good con man.
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I think some of that might be like a game recognize game thing, but I think that another
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part is like, this world is so fine with being wrong because you just pretend you were right.
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So like you can build somebody up and then like if you need to, Oh, they're a big villain
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now.
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Like Steve Puchenik was the greatest expert in everything.
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He changed the world.
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He single handedly took down the Soviet Union and then he got out of line with the 2020
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narratives and Alex is like, yeah, I guess he's back to working for the CIA or whatever.
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You know, like there isn't a problem now that he's a villain or whatever.
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And Alex can take stuff like he said in that globe where he's like, yeah, all right, Elon
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Musk should be investigated, take away all his companies.
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He could take that out of context if you ever need to make Elon into a villain.
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He could be like, I told you, I warned you that there was a danger here.
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I told you I was pure, I even said it, even though I was being sarcastic, now I was being
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serious.
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I rewrite a fair amount of this the same way Alex has done with his 9-11 prediction and
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all this stuff.
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So, you know, there isn't really a danger in building someone up in order to eventually
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turn against them.
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Yeah.
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I think, I think what's so fun about that is honestly we were at our non-brunch.
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We were talking about like that Superman Kryptonite thing and it is like, that is their superpower.
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You know, like there's no way to break through their ability to just rewrite history and
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pretend.
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Yeah.
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It's like the Kryptonite where you just go, ah, now you have to look at the real world
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in all its terrible glory and you can never look back.
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You can illustrate these things and then it will make some impact, but it doesn't really
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cut through.
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And then it just washes away.
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Yeah.
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So, we get another person from Twitter.
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Sure.
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And here's the reason that I decided to do this episode is because we had a dangling
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thread from a recent episode that we didn't have an agreement about and that was, did
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Elon call in?
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Yes, absolutely.
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Was the Dittman guy, the Dittman guy.
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Right.
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Right.
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So, guess who shows up?
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Dittman's here of course.
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Dittman shows up.
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Dittman's here.
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Adrian Dittman.
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Okay.
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And whether it's Elon Musk or 10 other groups, nobody has created a really open, independent
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engine yet it needs to be done.
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Couldn't agree more.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Love you.
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Chase, who's up next?
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Let's go to Adrian Dittman.
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Adrian, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say about this.
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Hey, what's up you guys?
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Yeah, I mean, really weird stuff, especially in the news cycle.
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I mean, I was in the news cycle, I think for a better part of almost three days, there's
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like this, it's kind of funny, it all started with a troll account, basically claiming some
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nonsense stuff and then deactivating the cells to do ragefarming and then having that be
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misinterpretedly spread by the Daily Mail to literally every single news organization
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nationwide in America, except for CBS and others, the major ones.
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It's actually every medium-sized publication had something to do with it and just basically
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spread the information everywhere on the internet.
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It was the most funniest shit ever.
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And so the AI aspect of this, I'll get to that in a bit, is this actually even appeal
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to data sets as well, because some AI is being trained on, say, news reports from these various
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places, because people seem to think that these are reputable in some capacity or another.
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I'd like to question that at some point, because I think I've definitely earned the right to
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say I have first-hand experience in saying that whatever they identify as, quote, reputable
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sources is highly questionable, because the information that was pumped out and distributed
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about me was so unequivocally false that basically the articles themselves and the repetition
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of those in verbatim was about 80 percent false, and none of them reached out to ever
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try and even did the remotest amount of adjustment to their articles and to their publications.
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I'm there on X.
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I'm basically there, right?
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My DMs are activated.
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You could say, hey, we need to talk to you.
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We have a problem here.
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Is this true?
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They never bothered to issue any correction.
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They never bothered to actually contact me regarding this.
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I contacted them and I said, here, adjust your bullshit.
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That's what I said.
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I messaged the Daily Mail and said, hey, fix my article.
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And then they said, OK, here, we made some adjustments.
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Would you like anything else?
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I didn't respond to that because I'm like, fuck you.
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You ought to have done that way before asking me, because the information is clearly out
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there.
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You should also familiarize yourself with the functions of the platform that you're
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shitting on before you shit on it, because you could probably do so more creatively.
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What I'm not entirely sure of was the intent behind this and why they did this, because
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I'm not sure this was supposed to have some sort of negative effect on me, but the inverse
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is true.
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It had the most positive effect on me.
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So this is a highly suspicious beginning to the call for a number of reasons.
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The first and most obvious reason is that Alex is just letting this guy swear like crazy
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on the show, which is supposedly on hundreds of radio stations.
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I know Alex was swearing a little bit earlier, but that's different.
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That's him.
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Sure, yeah.
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Alex would literally never let a caller do this, and he would have hung up on people
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who said shit or fuck, but here he is just letting Adrian go.
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That tells me that he's very much under the impression that this is Elon.
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He still believes that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Now, I have a few problems with the story that Adrian is telling here.
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So as it goes, there was an account on Twitter that was making a big deal out of claiming
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that Adrian Dittman was Elon's burner.
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This is not something that person could necessarily prove, but the anecdotal evidence is fairly
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compelling.
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Under his initial appearance on Infowars, I wouldn't have felt strongly enough to make
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a big deal out of accusing this account of being Musk, but I could see how someone could
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arrive there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So this account was deactivated, and I guess there's some dispute about whether they were
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banned for harassment or if they self-deactivated to make it look like they got banned for calling
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out Musk's account.
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Right.
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I have no idea what happened there, and I don't put enough stock in social media to
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really care.
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Right.
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I don't particularly care about Adrian's complaints about the Daily Mail.
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I have a pretty low opinion of that site based on them constantly being used as a source
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on Infowars because of their sensational headlines and often fairly iffy coverage.
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If you've got a problem with them, you've got a bigger problem.
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Well, yeah, your problem's with the Daily Mail, so is the rest of the world.
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Sure.
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Yeah, of course, yeah.
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I have a few problems, though, and they have to do with this clip.
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The first is that Adrian is not at all acknowledging that the last time he was on the show, Alex
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directly and emphatically said that it was Musk, who was using a fake account for plausible
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deniability.
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Right.
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He said that the Infowars producers told him during the break that it was definitely Musk.
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Right.
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If he's mad at the Daily Mail for their article, then he should have more of a problem with
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Alex and somehow doesn't, which is selective and strange.
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Elon Musk is certainly somebody who has a bone to grind with the mainstream media.
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Still not evidence.
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Still not, but sus.
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Still not.
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It is there.
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Now, the second thing I have is a big problem.
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Listen to this part from the end here again.
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Okay.
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What I'm not entirely sure of was the intent behind this and why they did this, because
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I'm pretty sure this was supposed to have some sort of negative effect on me, but the
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inverse is true.
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It had the most positive effect on me.
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Why is Adrian saying this coverage and the guy on Twitter was supposed to have a negative
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effect on him?
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No one gives a shit about him.
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If he's a real person, no one cares.
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The intent that could possibly be behind accusing this account of being Musk's fake account
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is to have a negative effect on Musk.
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I still don't know that I would say this is 100% proof that this is Elon, but it seems
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like that could be a bad slip up.
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Tying together me and the platform is itself a bad slip up, like, oh, they're trying to
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hurt me.
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Learn more about the platform.
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That's associating yourself and the platform.
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But again, that's still not- It's not, but it's a data point.
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I think what I find most interesting about this is, obviously, it doesn't matter either
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way.
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It's a pretend.
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What I find interesting about it is that it doesn't matter even if it is provable that
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Adrian Dittman is a real person.
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Like in that moment, on whatever platform, we exist in an era where I can no longer believe
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what it was.
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Was it him?
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I can't believe you.
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Because it could be an AI, and AI is good enough to deep fake that now.
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If you told me it was that, I don't believe you.
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Because it could be Elon Musk, and you can't prove that it's not Elon Musk, or an AI, or
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him.
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Right.
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Now, the only thing that I think that you can take away from this and have some solid
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realness to is Alex's response to this.
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Alex believes this to be Musk, and this is relevant because he's been having a breakdown
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about how, oh, I'm not an apologist for Elon Musk.
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And then Adrian Dittman shows up, and he talks to him for a half fucking hour.
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And not only that, but Adrian Dittman is himself obviously claiming not to be Elon Musk.
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Yes.
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In an interview with someone who is clearly saying, you are Elon Musk.
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Well, Alex does say in this one he's not Elon Musk, but there is kind of a feeling of, like,
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he's winking about it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's kayfabe.
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You can never, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, this Crossing the Rubicon has happened with Google Gemini because they're trying
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to erase white people.
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Do people not know what Crossing the Rubicon is supposed to mean?
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I think Alex does.
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Okay.
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Good.
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I think he means it to be war.
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So it's war.
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It's war.
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We're fighting a war.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Or we're being taken over by a fascist.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Every lie can be stretched to a certain extent up until it rips, and I think we've reached
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a point where the tensile strength of the lie and the context you can put within it
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simply doesn't hold anymore and just explodes before all our eyes.
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So I think we're very close to this, if not already here, where we're seeing the first
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fibers in the fabric rip.
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I totally agree, Adrian.
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Stay right.
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I want to hear this because I saw this at the start of my show.
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This is Crossing the Rubicon.
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The tipping point has happened with this Google, we're erasing white people thing as Beyond
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Bud Light.
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They crossed a Rubicon is what I'm seeing.
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What do you say to that?
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Beyond Bud Light.
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Fucking hell.
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I was laughing about this.
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It was so funny.
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I saw this earlier.
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I was thinking to myself, this is actually kind of funny because we were theorizing,
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me and a few other people were theorizing about this in spaces a very long time ago,
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was saying, if you can control the data set, you control reality, right?
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Because the thing that the AI outputs is taken by the majority is fact, much like anyone
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else would look at a legacy media publication, right?
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This is why this is so effective.
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And so we sat there and we thought about how exactly could you say, make an AI do some
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really terrible things without anyone actually noticing?
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Well, they of course can handle the data sets.
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Yeah, okay.
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So is Adrian someone who's spending a lot of time theorizing about AI?
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The idea of a person who is aware enough to recognize that they have been given fame and
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what comes with that as a modicum of power on a social media platform, purely either
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because they are Elon Musk or because it is so mystifying to the rest of the human race
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that a human being would behave like this.
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Right.
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And they would have a social media presence that is entirely about kissing Musk's ass
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and talking about how great his businesses are.
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Yeah.
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But that's the problem.
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That's where the problem comes in, is that that is all behavior that is completely understandable
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from someone who's just obsessed with Elon Musk.
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I mean, and it is like there's really two reasons, but how can you not understand that
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again, if you're self-aware, how can you not understand it's because people are viewing
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you.
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You know, like this is a freak show.
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This is you being Elon Musk, the person who is behaving like this and everybody's laughing
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at you because as you sit in your cage, like a hunger artist or whatever it is.
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There definitely isn't like interest in you for your own sake.
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Right.
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That is definitely true.
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There either is interest because people want to pretend or do think that you're Elon Musk
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or it's that sideshow thing that you're talking about.
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Yeah, it's sideshow shit.
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Yeah.
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It is like you're not being treated as a human.
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Can you believe that this guy sounds exactly like Elon Musk?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Be a human.
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I would be furious to not be treated as a human being.
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And he seems to be leaning into it or he is Elon Musk.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's tough.
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See, here's one of the things that I wrestle with is that leaning into it is an instinct
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that mostly derives from some kind of ego, some sort of pursuit of ego.
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And look, I don't pretend to be an expert, I don't know about this guy, but I looked
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at his Twitter feed when I was preparing the last episode and it doesn't feel like a guy
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who's obsessed with ego.
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It's all about Elon Musk.
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So to me, it doesn't feel like wanting to lean into this kind of attention towards yourself
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doesn't necessarily track with what I...
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It doesn't seem like this person's a narcissist or driven that direction.
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Well, I can absolutely 100% reasonably see a person who is analogous to the person who
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collects every single Simpsons figurine that's ever been made.
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Just like, this is a person who is obsessed with this thing.
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And I understand that this is unusual and more extreme for people, but I mean, you're
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not harming anybody.
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You're not doing anything.
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You're just obsessed with this thing.
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Well, but there's a lot of people who are obsessed with Elon Musk.
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Yeah, this is a little bit of...
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He has a very strange fan base.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Weird.
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So I was looking at this interview because on our last time we talked about this, you
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were pretty certain it was Elon Musk.
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It seems like now you...
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I talk shit.
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I mean, now it doesn't even...
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It doesn't matter to me.
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It does have a very big, it doesn't matter except for how Alex is experiencing this.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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That is true, but it is still an interesting question.
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True.
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And so as I was going through this, I was like, all right, I'm going to pay attention
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and try to figure out where there are times where it's like, this seems like Musk.
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And there's times like, this definitely doesn't seem like him.
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And I will say that there were way more instances where it's like, this feels like it's Elon
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Musk.
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It feels more Musk-y than...
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of Musk in the air, if you will.
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Yeah, because there's things like this.
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Thinking about the multiple CEOs that I've talked to me within the last couple of weeks
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basically explaining to me their problems with, say, these kinds of standards, by having
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to hire people based on anything else other than merit, which is very, very damaging to
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the company, cannot give them bad positions because then it's obvious that you're just
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a diversity hire, right, for instance.
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And so damages are being created regardless of what is happening.
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And this is quite sad.
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This is quite unfortunate.
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I mean, sure, you could definitely pull it off to hire diverse people.
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I certainly talk with people who are exceedingly diverse.
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I know several individuals that are, for instance, trans, and that doesn't really cross my mind
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most of the time because we're just sitting there and we're building cool shit.
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I don't really care, and they don't really care about my stuff either.
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We just look at the information that we generate, and we look at that as the only thing that
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really matters.
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And that's what I think humans should go for because you want to be able to choose whatever
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it is that you want.
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And it's just that you shouldn't make anyone else choose what it is that you are just because
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you think that what you are is the truest form of the self, right, based on some sort
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of thing that someone else would go for.
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I was thinking that today, Adrian.
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Really?
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You can be who you want.
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Don't try to make other people be that.
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Well, Alex's definition of freedom sounds pretty great.
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Everyone's free to be themselves, but it doesn't mean that you can force others to be you.
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Unfortunately, if Alex actually followed that as a basis for his definition of freedom,
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all of his political positions would collapse immediately.
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His worldview is almost wholly based on pursuing policies that require you to adhere to his
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rules, mostly derived from extreme right-wing white identity Christianity.
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But why is Adrian talking to so many CEOs?
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I mean, it is it is it is like I mean.
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But at the same time, you can absolutely see a person obsessed with social media who becomes
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a person like role playing Elon Musk all the time.
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It could be or he could do like I know that this guy does spaces.
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Sure.
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So maybe he has spaces where he's talked to CEOs or something.
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Yeah, right.
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And that kind of information makes you think like that is something Elon would say.
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I've talked to all these CEOs and they hate the affirmative action type things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it just feels it just feels so much like that, like not that this person is trolling
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so much as the the the present, the future is trolling me of just like, listen, it's
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only going to get worse from here.
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You will only know less.
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Yeah, if we're if it's this impossible to know what's going on.
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Yes.
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And it's only going to be more impossible to know anything.
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Yeah.
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You don't need shades.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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So Adrian, in this clip, advocates for a mandatory driving cars.
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Sure.
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Alex should be.
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I love that idea.
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Great.
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You can take your car right now and you could do a lot of damage with it.
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Doesn't mean that doesn't mean that nobody should drive cars anymore.
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I think that's also something in the future, by the way, that may become mandated if A.I.
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becomes so good that essentially they can replace humans.
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I think it is mandated that you have an A.I. in your car that is driving for you half the
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time because it is safer than the actual human being.
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Humans have weaknesses.
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There are reaction times that are not sufficient, I think, for the speeds of which opposed to
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George Washington was black to regulating how speed is working, how to make everything
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slower about things faster on the computer and basically have the computer drive the
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car because it can react faster to anything that you can ever even think about.
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By the time it has reacted to a certain situation, it has already seen the outcome and has reacted
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on your behalf before you can even become aware of anything that's happening.
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So that's a good thing, right?
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A.I.s and things is a good thing.
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It just depends on how it works.
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All right, Adrian, I've got to take a two-minute break.
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If you can finish up, stay with us.
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If you've got to leave, I understand what we're up to.
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Weird that Alex wouldn't be mad about that because it's directly opposed to his policies,
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that's for sure.
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Alex's preferences.
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He just screamed about how A.I. is getting rid of all white people.
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And now he's like, but also we should have it in control of the life and death of all
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white people in the United States.
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All people?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Anyone near a road.
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But I mean, again, he only cares about...
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Sure.
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Sure.
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This is a problem because this is one of the wedge issues that should be the things
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that Alex is criticizing Elon Musk about.
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And now you have this Adrian Ditman fellow expressing Musk's stance on this, maybe even
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a little stronger than Musk goes sometimes.
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And Alex is just like, all right, can you talk some more after the break?
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All right.
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So imagine, imagine Alex and Ditman's realities are both happening simultaneously.
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In five years, every non-white person will wake up to all white people's cars having
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run into each other and just a massive countrywide blood out of white people gone.
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And they just go, wow, I guess Alex was right.
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That's what we've got.
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Well.
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OK.
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So, Alex, I think whatever you think about is that's the logical end goal of his predictions.
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I mean, if both of them are true.
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Whatever is true or is not, Alex thinks that this is definitely Elon.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So we're going to start with Adrian Ditman and then we're going to come back and take
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some more calls or some more X comments here at Real Alex Jones.
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So thanks for your time, Adrian.
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Anything else you'd like to add to the viewers and listeners out there?
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Yeah.
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Where were we at?
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We're just talking about the total sea change happening.
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There's definitely an old system going down, a new system coming in.
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This guy's just supposed to be a caller who's calling in from X Twitter spaces.
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This is not supposed to be an interview, but Alex is treating this like an interview because
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he thinks that it's Elon Musk.
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Yeah.
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His co-host is Elon Musk now.
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Yes.
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That's what he's doing.
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What would you like to say to the listeners and everyone at the ships at sea?
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Yeah.
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He's doing a show with the richest man on the planet and that's what he thinks is like,
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I'm now the most powerful tweeter.
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That's the way that Alex is experiencing this and it's pretty clear.
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There's a couple of other instances where there's like obvious winks that Alex is doing,
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but the way that he's treating him, especially as opposed to when you look at the way he's
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treating these other callers that are just like, hey, great point, got to get to the
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next guy.
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He talks to him for a half fucking hour.
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That's absurd.
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Yeah.
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How do you... That's the thing that I don't get.
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That's the line that I can't cross for it not being Elon, is just like, you have to
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know that the only reason you exist in this space right now, pun absolutely intended,
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is because people think you are Elon Musk or because you are Elon Musk.
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You are getting the treatment from Alex that you are.
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You're on the show expounding on these beliefs or whatever solely because there's an impression
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that you're Elon Musk.
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Absolutely.
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There's no other aspect of you that is at all meaningful or valuable.
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If you were just Adrian Dittmann and everyone knew you were Adrian Dittmann and your voice
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sounded a little bit different, Alex would not give a single fuck about you.
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Yeah, no, it doesn't matter.
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It does not matter.
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He would hear you say that AI should be mandatory in cars and he would hang the fuck up on you.
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Absolutely.
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You would say shit or fuck and you would be gone.
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You'd use the delay button so you don't get in trouble with the channels.
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Yeah.
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Anything short of an engineer, like the only engineer would be an engineer who is literally
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working on Gemini at this exact time and who is willing to go along with having insider
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information about it.
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Even if it was somebody who worked for Gemini, they'd be like, maybe you're wrong and you'd
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be like, you're right, right, right, and then hang up.
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Well, Alex, one of the other callers that he gets that we're not going to listen to
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is Zach Voorhees.
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He was that Google quote unquote whistleblower who worked with Project Veritas and then came
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out that he talked frequently about the Zionist occupied government and other sort of anti-Semitic
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shit.
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Yeah.
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So he's kind of there because it's like, hey, this involves Google, maybe I can get a little
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bit of traction out of this.
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Right, right, right.
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I'll get some juice.
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Yeah.
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It's very sad.
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But yeah.
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Everything on Twitter, it sounds really sad these days.
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Yeah.
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But here's the good thing about it.
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Okay.
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You can say fuck on there.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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That is good.
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Unlike other places.
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That's fair.
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I know X is freer because, Adrian, because every site I go to won't let me say fuck.
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But when I go to type that on Twitter or X now, it lets me.
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So obviously that's been disengaged at X where I can just say what I want.
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Now, that's the Star Trek ass future we've been looking for.
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Yeah.
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You could do that.
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I don't think you should do that.
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I think it's a bad idea.
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I'm not saying it's good.
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I'm just saying I'm noticing that every platform won't let me say that, not that I need to
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use that term.
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I'm just saying suddenly I can type that on because if I'm on Google and I say F-U-C-K,
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I get duck.
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When I'm on X, I don't get duck.
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I get the other word.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, that definitely works on here still.
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It's probably not good for you long-term to swear around on the platform.
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It doesn't lead to a regretted user address, but you can do whatever it is that you want.
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If you have no pool, you can do whatever.
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So the absolute mark of freedom is autofill knowing that you're trying to swear.
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There's a very grown-up kind of thing that's flying around here.
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It's great.
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Yeah.
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Adrian says that you can say fuck on Twitter, and it doesn't lead to, quote, unregretted
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user minutes.
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That's a very strange phrase.
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It's very specific, and it's one that Elon uses to describe the goal of the new version
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of Twitter.
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When he tweeted, quote, new Twitter will strive to optimize unregretted user minutes on December
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29th, 2022, and has referenced this multiple times since.
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This is an interesting dilemma that Adrian poses because the use of that term would lead
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one very much to think this is definitely Musk under a fake name.
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He's using the same very specific term Musk used to describe time on Twitter.
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But the issue is that Musk's fans are weirdos, and they take the terminology that he uses
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on.
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They adopt it.
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And if Adrian is a real person, the one thing you can be sure of is that he is an obsessive
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Elon Musk fan.
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Yeah.
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It's unfortunate because in many situations, this would be a real compelling piece of evidence.
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But in this case, you can really only deduce that this is either Musk or someone who has
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molded himself around Musk.
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To a degree that the world takes concerned notice.
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That's an issue.
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Well, I think the reason the world takes concerned notice isn't because he is a Musk obsessive.
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It's because the implications of it actually being Musk are high.
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You have this person who is presumably one of the more powerful people in the world,
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richest person in the world, who's spending his time palling around with Alex spreading
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bullshit racist conspiracies under a fake name on Infowars.
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And the implication of that actually being him is very serious.
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No one cares about Adrian Dittman the person.
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No, this whole thing, it makes me mad at everybody but Elon Musk and Adrian Dittman, regardless
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of whether or not they are separate or real.
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It's just like, all of us should know, we've got too much history.
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We have too much history that we can avail ourselves of at any point in time.
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We should all know like, oh, okay, we can't engage in this.
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This cannot be engaged in, otherwise there's just no point.
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And I think that that's part of the reason why I'm doing this is because I'm not fully
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engaging with it, but it is interesting to engage with Alex's engagement with it.
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The is he or isn't he is kind of fun to play around with in your head a little bit, but
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making too strong of a claim either way, I'm not saying that you, like on the last episode
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you did, you were fucking around.
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No, I was fucking around.
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Yeah, obviously.
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I didn't know anything or care, yeah.
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But the reality of how Alex takes this is definitely worth noting.
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Because in Alex's mind, he's had Elon now be almost a regular guest on his show.
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I mean, and it might not be, but that it is, doesn't matter because it-
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No, what matters is how Alex is experiencing it and how the audience is meant to experience
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it.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And the audience is going to behave like Alex as though it is Elon Musk.
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So it doesn't even matter if it is or isn't because it's not like Elon Musk-
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That could actually break bad for Alex because that implies more access to Elon Musk, which
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makes it even more suspicious that Alex isn't asking the kind of questions that the audience
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has about Elon to him.
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It makes it look like he's covering things up even more.
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So that might be a negative ultimately for Alex.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, there is a certain part of me that listens to that clip of Alex being like, it's
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good you can say fuck and that maybe being Elon Musk and just all of that together makes
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me feel like, you know, we are returning to the stone age.
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Like we're going to get back there.
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And maybe we should, you know?
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I just typed fuck and Google and it allowed it.
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I don't know what Alex is talking about.
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I think he's just talking about it on his phone.
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Sometimes.
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I'm just so tired.
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And text messages.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's just text messages.
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So Alex throws it to Adrian for the last word of it, because of course that's what you do
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with callers.
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So we're on hundreds of radio stations, TV stages.
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It's why we have like 12 minutes of ads or whatever it is an hour.
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I apologize for that, but that's the way it is.
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I'm doing more and more shows that are commercial free.
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Adrian Dittman, very popular person on X.
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Everybody should follow him.
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I appreciate you holding to the brakes.
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They're very busy.
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Any other closing comments you'd like to make?
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Adrian Dittman's busy.
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Are we concerned about...
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Partially, I think what people need to consider is that information warfare is an attack on
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one's ability to recall and recount history.
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If you can control those aspects, you control everything.
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An attack on one's ability to recall and recount history.
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That sounds exactly like what Alex does.
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It's a very succinct definition of enforce.
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Well said, Dittman.
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Also, that part of the beginning isn't Alex apologizing that there are so many commercials.
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He's apologizing to Adrian for having to sit in brakes while he's on the line.
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Alex definitely thinks that this is Elon, so he's imagining that he would be annoyed
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by the commercial brakes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's too busy.
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Sorry, sir.
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Sorry, sir.
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Absolutely.
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You have to understand.
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We're on the radio.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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You're a very important man.
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You're so busy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip, and it's Alex inviting himself onto Adrian's show.
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Sure.
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Well, of course.
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Adrian, I would love to come on your show anytime, because I see the great work you
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do.
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Adrian, if you had me on, I'd love to come on and talk about free speech and cancel culture.
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Adrian, thank you so much for the time.
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Thanks for having me.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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Look, we got... and all the hosts that host the 4th Hour know I take some of their time
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sometimes, but Jay Dyer is really smart.
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He goes off the own source documents to globalists.
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I don't want to cut it to him, but I promise to get to more of these comments and questions.
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So we'll skip the break coming up.
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We'll skip the next network break, so Jay Dyer gets more time.
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We'll skip these breaks to make up for the fact that I spent a half hour talking to this
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guy that I think is Elon Musk.
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I mean...
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I'm going to cut into the 4th Hour hosts' time.
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I need to talk to these other people, because I would have gotten to them, but the guy that
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I'm pretending is Elon Musk was here, so that took up half an hour of my time.
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I'm behind.
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Yeah.
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Let's go ahead and knock some of these out.
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It's ridiculous.
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Yeah, it really does feel like this is the moment that we are facing, that we've predicted
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for the longest time about deepfakes and shit like that.
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Like this is the true confrontation of it, where it is like...
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It's not like Obama giving a speech where some people want to believe it or whatever.
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This is Alex 100% believing, regardless of its truth or whether it needs to be true,
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that this is Elon Musk.
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And the awareness that we have this technology and stuff makes it so this could conceivably
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be true or false.
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And it could conceivably be both.
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It could be that Adrian Dittman is a real person that Elon Musk has talked to.
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It is entirely possible that Elon Musk talked to this person, and then there was an AI bot
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that sometimes talks like this.
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It is entirely possible that none of those things are real, but because the distance
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for us is so great, we can never truly know.
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There is no ultimate reality to this, which is jarring and difficult.
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Now I think that the only thing that really drives this into the, ah, we've got to talk
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about this, is the dynamic that Alex is so defensive about Elon Musk at the beginning
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of this, and people criticizing like, hey, why are you supporting this?
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Maybe you should be more critical.
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Him realizing, or not realizing, accidentally saying, I take criticism of Elon personally,
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because I look at him and I see me.
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100%.
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Oh, this kind of a breakdown in shit that's going on at the beginning.
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Then fake Elon calls in, and Alex behaves that way.
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It's very much like, he's got problems.
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It is a serious issue.
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He's got an Elon problem.
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I would say that it is entirely possible, and just tell me if I'm a little bit off the
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wrong track.
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Alex might have some daddy issues.
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His dad won't be a guest on the show, so that would be an issue.
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I don't know.
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I think that, who knows what goes on in the minds of men.
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Anyway, I just wanted to talk about this a little bit, have a little wacky Wednesday.
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It's sort of wacky Wednesday-ish.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, we have a website.
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It is based entirely upon the question of whether or not something is real, so that's
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very wacky Wednesday.
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True, and it's either someone who's doing an impression of a human, or it's a robot.
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Or it's an alien from Mars!
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It could be a Pleiadian.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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Yeah, we're also on Blue Sky.
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We are on Blue Sky.
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It's Knowledgefight.
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Yeah, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX, Clark, beep-beep-boop-beep-beep-boop-boop.
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That's the noise that an alien from Mars would make, beep-boop-boop-boop-beep-boop-boop.
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We know they're talking boobs.
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That's true.
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Woo, yeah!
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Woo, yeah!
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Woo!
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And now, here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.