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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge
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of a fight, knowledge of a fight, I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys,
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saying we are the bad guys, a knowledge of a fight, Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight,
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need money, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, stop it, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas,
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you're on the air, thanks for holding me, hello Alex, I'm a fan, I love your work, knowledge
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fight, knowledgefight.com, I love you, hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight,
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I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of
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Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones, oh indeed we are Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan,
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I have a quick question for you today, what you brights all about, another day, another
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new set of headphones, another new set of headphones, that's true, that's not the bright
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spot though, but in case anything goes wrong, new headphones, it's like people say new shoes,
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oh yeah, we had a scare before the show even started, yeah we did, and now I feel like
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because of that, my cord's on the wrong side, oh you're right it is, it's always on the
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left, very strange, there's no way around it, can't, have to just deal with it, my bright
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spot today Jordan, as I was over at the store, and what should I see, but Kit Kat, chocolate
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frosted doughnut, oh my god, chocolate frosted doughnut flavor, get the fuck out of here,
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yep, it's not good, but exciting, exciting as a flavor, it's exciting to see Kit Kat getting
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into the game, sure, because you usually see Reese's fucking around and doing all this
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crazy nonsense, sure, well I mean Japanese Kit Kat has been going strong for a long long
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time, that is true, and we got that nice package from a listener, yeah absolutely, who had
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some nice Japanese Kit Kat, the strawberry one was fantastic, fantastic, the banana caramel
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was iffy, but see I think domestically Kit Kat doesn't get enough, mess around enough,
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I agree, so chocolate frosted doughnut, sure, hey hello, alright, not good, it's a thought
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that counts, I'm telling you we're trapped in a cooler ranch loop, that's what it is,
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like so many places accidentally nailed it on their first go round, and then the taste
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got trapped in the literal human zeitgeist, and now we're trapped, what was the second
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Kit Kat that was the cooler ranch, wait, what was the second Kit Kat that was the cooler
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ranch, yeah because he had the Doritos nacho cheese, you gotta ask yourself, what does
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the white chocolate count for, not much, you don't think so, I think the white chocolate
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counts for a lot, nope, I'm a big fan of the white chocolate Reese's too, white chocolate
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is the best, it's a little bit sweeter, little bit sweeter, little less bitter, that's what
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it is, sucks, shouldn't be called chocolate, I guess the reason this is a bright spot is
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that me and my buddy Nikki gifts, it's one of the few things that we really connect on
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anymore, not that our friendship has fallen apart, but he's busy, he has a kid, so our
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lives, we don't live in the same city, our lives are disparate, it is what it is, it's
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a nice way that we can connect, that we take pictures of weird novelty candies that we
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see and we're like uh oh, look at this one, that's great, yeah it is kind of a nice little
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thing that we can still share, so that's more the bright spot than the actual chocolate
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for us to donut, which again, not good, maintaining a human connection even whenever it's extremely
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difficult with those like small things, that just goes such a long way towards, it is a
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little thing, yeah, but you can think about it, you know, every now and again you can
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just stop and be like yeah, I do appreciate that, yeah, it's nice, and when I see a funny
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candy, it makes me think of my old buddy, yeah, it's great, so what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is, I'm going to go with one more time, this is the last time, tennis,
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no, what had happened was, season finale, finished it up, yep, and I will tell you this,
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the reason is my bright spot, one, it's a great episode, but it's my bright spot because
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it blew up a new level for me that I didn't know, I didn't know this, okay, before
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Kanye took over B, Common's seminal album, one of the greatest albums of all time, Questlove
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had finished like six tracks producing it, oh my, so there is an alternate universe B
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produced entirely by Questlove that is now trapped inside my brain, like I want to hear
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those, you got to do a Marvel's what if, absolutely, time would be different, how do you
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even know about Marvel's what if? I heard about it somewhere, I don't know, probably
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some fucking video that was recommended to me on YouTube that I didn't click on, that
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just shows up in my fucking page, yeah, I don't know, I also, I knew, I knew of it like
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as a thing before there was a show, you know like the Uatu the Watcher, sure, sure, sure,
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the idea of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a series of comic books itself, right, right,
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right, right, and I was vaguely aware of that as a child, right, right, right, I got you,
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but I've disconnected from this nerd stuff, there's nothing more fun than taking beloved
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characters and putting them into a different situation, like whenever news radio was on
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the Titanic, great stuff, or in space, or in space, Phil Hartman, right, Phil Hartman
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just, Phil Hartman dressing completely normal, Phil Hartman as an exclamation is great, yes,
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no context around it, no secondary thought, none needed, just Phil Hartman, handy dick,
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well that requires a lot more context, Steven Root, oh god, Steven Root, Steven Root has
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the best career of any human being in the entertainment business ever, yeah, I mean
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he's in Office Space, yeah, he's Jimmy James, yep, he was in The Man in the High Castle,
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sure, I'm trying to create the broadest range of character actor roles that he's done,
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I mean his voiceover career, extensive, sure, always pops up as a little character, you
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know, like a dodgeball and stuff like that, always pops up as a nice little character,
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always does his job, does it, gets in, gets out, everybody loves him, here's another
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alternative universe, what's that, B, produced by Steven Root, how about that,
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is that a universe you want to live in, Steven The Roots, let's start this shit now,
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we're writing it, we're cooking with gas, get Marvel on the line, so Jordan, today
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we have an episode to go over and I regret that we're doing it, honestly, this sucks,
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this is a bad episode, bad times, we're talking about January 3rd, 2024, first episode
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of 2024, Wednesday, bad, didn't start off the new year on a new note, didn't have
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any resolutions that would at the very least start off with some sort of novelty or anything
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like that, nope, just running it back, I mean there's a certain sense that this has
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a novel aspect to it, it's just the worst kind of novelty, well there's that, so we'll
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get down to how this all plays out, but first let's say hello to some new wonks,
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oh that's a great idea, so first, Frank Brewer, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk,
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I'm a policy wonk, thank you very much, thank you, next, congratulations on your
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wedding, Oliver and Kelly, Dan and Jordan are now your globalists in law, thank you
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so much, you are now a policy wonk, I'm a policy wonk, thank you very much, thank you,
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next, sometimes when my partner starts the car by phone, auto connects to the Bluetooth
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so she's greeted by Alex spewing hatred, but I also listen at 1.5 speed so he sounds
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even more coked up, I love you guys, keep up the great work, thank you so much, you
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are now a policy wonk, I'm a policy wonk, thank you very much, thank you, next, I join
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to express my support for healthy work-life balance exemplified by taking a little breaky,
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thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk, I'm a policy wonk, thank you very much,
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thank you, next, Spotify just informed me that I listened to you guys 19,173 minutes
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in my first year of knowledge fight, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk, I'm
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a policy wonk, thank you very much, not good, don't do it, I don't know how many that
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is comparative, I know it's a lot, right, I don't know how it is comparatively, well
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let's see, alright, 60 minutes per hour, well I was, yeah, I was gonna go a different
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route for the math and then I got confused, ok, there's 24 hours in a day, we're close
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to 24,000 minutes, alright so, and then I lost track of where I would go next to the
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math, 24,000 minutes divided by 60, yeah, so that gives us, no wait, we're at 20, let's
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just round it up to 20, 20,000, 20,000 divided by 60, yes, this is excruciating for people,
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so now we, we, we, we, they are listening to us not use a calculator and solve this
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problem at instants, it's probably 6 months of your life, yeah, that sounds great, forget
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a technocrat in the mix Jordan, so thank you so much to Alex ripped off the quickening
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from Art Bell, thank you so much, you are now a technocrat, I'm a policy wonk, four
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stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant, someone, someone, sodomite
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sent me a bucket of poop, daddy shark, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean
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black accent, he's a loser little, little titty baby, I don't want to hate black people,
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I renounce Jesus Christ, thank you so much, yes, thank you very much, so obviously one
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of the biggest things that's going around in the news this day is the Epstein list,
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sure, sure, sure, presumably being released or maybe not because there was one of the
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Jane Doe's who was trying to get it postponed and there was talk that it was going to be
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postponed on the 22nd, yep, and then it got released, judge, so there's a lot of, there's
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a lot of energy around Epstein, right, and so one might think that that is why this episode
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is going to be terrible, and it is part of it, sure, but it's not the whole thing, I,
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I'm, here's what I believe is going to happen, okay, and it really bums me out if you're
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Alex, I believe Alex is going to defend people going to Epstein Island, no, oh okay, however,
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you're not, I don't like that however, you're not super far off in terms of what I feel
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like Alex is doing is playing deflection slash defense, so we'll get to that, but we start
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off with Alex talking, running down the headlines and touching on the Epstein business, okay,
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to be here, okay, let's run down what we're going to be covering and more today obviously,
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I'm not going to mention everything we're going to be getting to, because you never
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know, stuff's breaking while we're on the air and we have a bunch of special guests
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joining us, Epstein has to remain sealed until at least January 22nd, I said yesterday, I
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bet they don't release it today, I bet they seal it again, we're going to talk about why,
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there's a lot of blackmail going on behind the scenes and some big developments there,
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but I had filmmaker and former Infowars host Jason Bermas on yesterday, he was hosting
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the 4th hour and I hosted part of it with him, and just hearing him rattle off, he's
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really good at collating everything, I was like, man, there's a lot of angles I've
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forgotten to restate about Epstein, because as Bermas points out, I've been covering
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Epstein for at least a decade and he reminded me of so much information and people obsessed
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on flight logs, they obsessed on his so-called black book, but the big enchiladas are Manifest
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and Manifold and Legion. Manifest, Manifold and Legion! Alright, I mean, that's a nice
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little trio. Sure. Barnes would be disappointed. Yeah, it doesn't have the full... It doesn't
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have the rhyming and the alliteration going. Yeah, you're not wrong there, but it does
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have a flair to it, I like it. Jason Bermas has got to be pissed. For sucking? Or for
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being told he sucks all the time? No, because on our last episode, when we were back in
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2012, we heard Alex say that Aaron Dykes had made the best report, maybe he's second.
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Eh, he's not that good. Maybe he's second best to Paul. Eh, it kinda sucks compared
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to Paul. Fucking Bermas should be the guy. He should be Alex's guy. He's been there
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while he went away for quite a while, and he and Alex weren't... I don't know if they
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had a falling out or what, but he wasn't around. But he was there in the early days.
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He was the info warrior. That was his show. He made loose change. No, no, you don't understand.
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If you're a narcissist, you love people right up until they love you back, and then you're
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like, fine, now you're in my stable of people I can exploit. I'm off to try and love the
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next person who doesn't love me yet. Jason Bermas should have been in the conversation
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for that top spot with Aaron Dykes and Paul Joseph Watson. In the stable, that's all he
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is. He's there. He's on the burner. The Bermas serve. Oh, nice. Nah, I won't do it.
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Nah, actually I regret it. Barnes wouldn't be thrilled. Are we holding ourselves to the
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Barnes standard now? For rhymes, yes. And pun work. Not pun work. Anyway, sure. Alex
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has been coming Epstein forever. The FBI went and scooped up stuff out of his Zorro ranch
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and out of his New York sex dungeon and out of his Caribbean rape island. But they did
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take photos and admit that they have hundreds if not thousands, dozens and dozens of boxes
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full of videotapes and full of CDs and full of computer hard drives. So when I say hundreds
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if not thousands, there's probably thousands of videos. I mean, you've got buckets, boxes
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just full of hard drives and full of VHS tapes and full of DVDs. It shows that it's going
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back many, many, many, many, many, many years because you got the VHS from 20 years ago,
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25 years ago, 30 years ago, you've got the CDs and DVDs from 20 years ago, 10 years ago
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and you've got all the hard drives. Box after box, closet after closet, room after room
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and everybody is completely focused and including myself even though I'm one of the first to
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ever talk about all this, if not the first, only because I was already hot on the trail
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because of Ted Gunderson and all those patriots that were exposing these networks. That's
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how I was aware of it and I knew people in Hollywood and was told some of the things
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they'd heard were going on and also I'm a news hound. A lot of this has come out in
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the news. He's a news hound. He's a news hound. So Alex is making a lot of assumptions
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of what he imagines this evidence might be in the Epstein case and he may be right about
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some of it, but he also may not. I love the generations of technology breakdown. It was
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a little bit of a chart of evolution. I'm less interested in his assumptions about that
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stuff and more interested in his absolute lie that he was one of the first, if not the
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first, to cover Epstein's child exploitation. Yeah, that's disgusting. You can go through
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Alex's history and you'll find that this is an absolute fiction. Epstein had been indicted
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in 2007, at which point Trump's future Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta and Alex's buddy
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Alan Dershowitz negotiated him a non-prosecution agreement. He was sentenced to 18 months in
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prison, which he served in a very minimum security facility and was allowed to leave
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for work release. Subsequently, after he got released, there were a number of lawsuits.
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There was a lot of media coverage of this, particularly in places like the Miami Herald.
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If you go through Alex's old episodes, dating back to 2003, he doesn't talk about Jeffrey
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Epstein at all until pretty late in the game. The word Epstein comes up, but that's mostly
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when he's talking about the Epstein-Barr virus, not Jeffrey. The first time Alex ever actually
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covered Jeffrey Epstein was on January 2, 2015, which was after the news about Virginia
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Gaffair's lawsuit had broken, after that news. Which, again, was in the news. So everyone
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had been talking about Epstein for months up to this point.
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Alex was mostly interested in that story because it involved the royal family through Prince
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Andrew and Bill Clinton. This gave him an angle of attack and made it easy to fold into
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his narrative world, so he pounced on it. And he's talked a bunch about Epstein since,
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usually in irresponsibly sensational terms. Alex was late to the story, but that doesn't
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look good for him. He's the prophet guy. He's supposed to be so many steps ahead of the
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mainstream media, so to have ignored this story for about seven years while the mainstream
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media covered it seems kind of weird.
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A little weird.
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That's why he lies like this and he pretends that he was hot on Epstein's trail from the
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early days, waging a one-man crusade against him while the world just sat by and enabled
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him. The media sat on their hands.
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Yeah.
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Another important point is that this is what is important for Alex. The Epstein story isn't
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about understanding abuse of power or getting justice for the victims. This story exists
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in Infowars coverage to use as a cudgel against his enemies, whether or not they were actually
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associated with Epstein, and as an avenue to inflate his own ego. The Epstein story
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is about how right Alex is all the time and has always been, and that's why you need to
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take him so seriously in the present. It's super easy to illustrate how right you are
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all the time if you're willing to lie about what you said in the past and create narcissistic
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fiction about yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So this is bad. You know, like obviously his coverage of Epstein and stories that involve
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exploitation of children are always really bad. But like I said, that's not the reason
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that this is launched into really bad episode territory. That is because of a guest that
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he has on that he introduces. The guest is going to come on later, but he brings him
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up here at the beginning.
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And then I have a very interesting guy. I've been watching for, I don't know, it's got
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to be more than a decade and a half on YouTube and places.
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Now that's brother Nathaniel Kappner. And I think the guy is very interesting and entertaining.
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He's Jewish, is Jewish Christian, and he's a mellow bit over the years.
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I'm sorry, that's not good.
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He actually puts his case out instead of just attacking people. And so I thought we would
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hear from a Orthodox, I guess, or Messianic Jew today. He's not too fond of Israel.
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I'm sorry?
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And I'm going to get some folks on too who are pro-Israel soon, like the super informed,
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awesome folks over that run Rebel Media, Ezra Levant and others.
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I just recently got invited to go over to Israel and see for myself. I've also been
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invited to Egypt. I've been invited to Russia, but I haven't gone because there's just too
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much going on here in America. But I'm tempted to go.
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Too much going on.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Not a great sign here that Alex is saying that he's been watching this guy for a decade
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because brother Nathaniel is a raving anti-Semitic lunatic.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's a guy who like harasses people on the streets and he runs a website called Real
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Jew News. The homepage of that site says this on the very top in the header, quote, I wish
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to warn how Jewry is destroying Christianity throughout the world.
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We can stop already.
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Yeah.
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Any time soon. What the fuck are you doing using the word Jewry? It is like-
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Uses it a lot.
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You don't even need to, you don't need to finish a sentence unless it begins with, racists
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use the word Jewry a lot and non-racists don't.
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Eh, it's a, it's a trend. Demonizing Jewish people is like literally his main issue.
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He's not someone who opposes Israel or sports Palestinian rights.
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He's a violent anti-Semite who put out a video about how exciting it is that people are
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starting to like Hitler the day before Alex had him on for this episode.
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Yeah.
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Literally everything on his website is about attacking Jewish people.
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The Jews did 9-11, the Jews killed President McKinley, Jews rule every aspect of society
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and stopped Ron Paul from getting into office.
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What did the Jews have against McKinley?
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I didn't read that article. I don't know.
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But yeah, what a shock. This guy likes Ron Paul.
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Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
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So all this is pretty predictable neo-Nazi type stuff on this website, but there's one
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section of the site that I found particularly interesting.
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Okay.
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As it turns out, in 2009, brother Nathaniel was putting out some articles that were accusing
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Alex of being a shill.
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From one of them, titled, quote, is Alex Jones a Zionist shill?
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Here, I'll read to you from that.
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Sure.
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Quote, the simmering controversy of Alex Bullhorn Jones being a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist
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agent and spinmeister has now spilled over onto Jones' own public prison planet message
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board, parentheses, see below.
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All right, I'll say my grade is overwrought at this point in time.
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His writing is not concise.
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Despite alleged message censoring efforts by Jones personally and his staff, according
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to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones' allegiance to Zionism stems
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from two things.
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One, his core Protestant fundamentalist Zionist belief system, and two, widely circulated
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reports that his wife is a Jew, which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic
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law.
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Nathaniel has been pretty directly critical of Alex for years, like in 2017 when he said,
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quote, many fear using the Jew word but instead use generic phrases like Alex Jones uses globalists.
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So if I'm to take Alex seriously, he spent a decade watching this guy spout vile anti-Semitic
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trash and regularly insult Alex and say he was a shill for the Jews, so afraid that he
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needed to use code words like globalists in order to stay on the air, and now he's decided
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to have him on to have a talk about Israel.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah.
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This is what someone does.
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Eh, you know, it's all part of the show.
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Come on.
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Who doesn't hate?
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It's a disgrace.
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It's disgusting.
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The, the last 10 years have caused that same kind of political realignment that I think
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people believe happened in the 60s the same way.
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And it hasn't caused it in political party, though.
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Everyone's still pretending to be exactly the same, while some of them believe in complete
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opposite things somehow.
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Wild.
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Wild.
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Speaking of people in a political party.
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Sure.
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There's another guest on this episode who should be thrilled that he's sharing a broadcast
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day with someone like Brother Nathaniel.
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Dan Crenshaw?
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No, it's someone who's been known to pee on live mics.
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Ooh, here we go.
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His name rhymes with cake.
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All right.
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So we had the deep dive next hour.
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It's, it's a red herring, the little black book.
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It doesn't exist.
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He had dozens of these black books.
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But he wants the hard drives, and going all the way back to VHS over three decades.
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He was working for Mossad, MI6, the CIA.
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Mossad heads were caught there.
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All of it.
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All right.
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Joining us now is Vivek Ramaswani.
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Super smart.
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Love his analysis.
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He's doing irrevocable damage to the globalists that have hijacked this country.
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That seems to be Alex's catchphrase, is he's doing irrevocable damage.
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And that's the way of getting around the, like, you know, he has Soros connections and
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shit earlier in his life.
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Sure.
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He's got to be real.
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He's doing irrevocable damage.
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Which I don't under, I don't know how he is.
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He was, he was trying to make change from the inside.
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And then as he.
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That's a better angle.
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As he, but as he left, when he realized that he couldn't, he dropped a truth grenade.
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Right.
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And then jumped out the window as an explosion went off behind him.
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It was very cool.
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And he had a truth parachute.
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Well, I mean, obviously you're not going to jump out the 70th floor of a, of a lie building
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with this.
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Vivek!
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It definitely makes his run for office seem super real and credible to be repeatedly coming
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back on Info Wars.
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Can't we all as a society just decide, you know, like violence is wrong, but also we
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need to bring back throwing vegetables at people.
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You know, I think, I think that there is a realm of violence that, that, uh, you know,
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I never, I never really was too offended by people pouring milkshakes on folks.
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Milkshakes?
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Um, so I don't know, is a tomato in the same territory?
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I don't think, like, I, if I were doing standup and someone threw a tomato at me, I would
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not feel attacked.
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No, I would feel, I would, I think, yeah, there is a certain part of me that would be
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like, sir, correct answer.
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That's within a well laid out tradition of, uh, not, not appreciating someone's performance.
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Yeah.
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I'd be like, I didn't even know we still did that.
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Applause to you.
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So I, I, you know, Vivek is on and they, it's largely a conversation about how like, you
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know, uh, him being in the race is important cause then there's two people who, so they
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can't just kill Trump cause Vivek will be there.
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That kind of stuff.
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You got to understudy protect, so that keeps the prima donna from being hurt.
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Yeah.
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It's like how you have a buffer, uh, if your vice president is insane, then they won't
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take you out.
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But they aren't in office and he's not his vice president.
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So it's kind of that same mentality.
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Is that, that's, that's like continuity of running for government.
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Yeah.
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Continuity of lunatics.
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Yeah.
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So also, uh, Vivek is a little bit bummed that people aren't thrilled with his most
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recent endorsement.
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No.
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All right, my friend, we love it when you pop in.
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You're very gracious.
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It's good to have you back on this one.
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24.
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Where would you like to begin?
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No, let's, I mean, I was actually just came straight off of getting Steve King's endorsement
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and getting excoriated by the media for it.
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And it just shows how corrupt a lot of the media is.
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And frankly, a lot of the Republican establishment do, you know, Steve King, right?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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He's a true patriot.
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Cool guy.
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Cool guy.
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Steve King, not a racist.
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Vivek going to bat for Steve King and being like, that guy likes me.
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I genuinely thought that we were done with Steve.
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I thought that once actual, like even the racists were like, Steve, come on man.
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Just don't say it.
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Yeah.
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Well, what are you going to do?
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Just going to do this and complain to Alex about how no one is thrilled.
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Like Steve King anymore.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, Vivek is bummed.
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No one's happy for him.
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And then he has a, he has another thought that about the, uh, the primary and that is
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what the globalists are trying to do.
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Like a lot of people are saying that, you know, they, they don't want Biden, right?
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Sure.
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Like Steve King and Gavin Newsom or something like that.
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Well, I don't know if anybody's really, well, that's what the right wing conspiracy ding
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dongs are saying.
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I would rather bring back Hillary.
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Fuck it.
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Really?
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Piss him off.
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Vivek has another angle.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I worry that a lot of the Republican primary voter base, because the mainstream media is
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pushing a false narrative is about to fall into a major trap and it's one that you've
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been calling out for a long time.
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I think you have been way ahead of the curve on this.
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I came around to this in the last couple of months as it became more obvious to me.
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I think this system, I hate to say this because it's wrong and it's immoral, but this system
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is not going to allow Donald Trump to get anywhere near that white house.
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If you think they're going to just let Donald Trump get back to the white house again, open
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your eyes.
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And I think that if I've seen what's happening, it's the first true thing he's ever said in
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this that I think really threw a wrench in this for me was I knew they were not going
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to allow a Trump versus Biden election.
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There was something else going on here.
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Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, which puppet were they going to prop up?
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But then you actually follow the facts.
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You open your eyes for the last several months.
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Who are the people that are supporting the lawsuits to keep Donald Trump off the ballot?
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Who are they supporting?
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Who's Larry Fink supporting?
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It's not Gavin Newsom.
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It's not even Joe Biden.
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It's actually within our own party.
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It's Nikki Haley in this race.
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And so what they want to do is to narrow this down to be a two horse race between Trump
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and Haley.
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That's the plan, at least.
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That's right.
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Bird brain, bird brain.
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And you've been targeting her astutely from the beginning.
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She's very dangerous.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So that's the plot.
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Yeah.
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That's the plot to bring it down to Nikki Haley versus Trump in the prime.
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Trump would destroy.
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I mean, right now, Trump would destroy literally everyone.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't matter if you prop up Nikki Haley as a second option in the GOP primary.
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If it is only her.
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Yeah.
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Still wonder.
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It's like if Trump isn't running, I don't think I still don't think she's going to win
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the nomination.
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No, I find it.
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I find it fascinating because everybody who told me all anything anybody told me about
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voting for Biden last election because of blah, blah, blah, blah.
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All of that stuff applies more to Nikki Haley this year than it does to Biden or Trump.
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It's all it's literally like you lay out a little bit of the blah, blah, blah, blah.
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I mean, that whole like electability who is going to win an election in a world without
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Trump.
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Yes.
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Nikki Haley wins against anybody.
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Well, if the right wing voter base was looking for electability and someone who's not outwardly
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clearly nuts, but they're not.
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Right.
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But see, that's my point is that all of those people who told me all that nonsense about
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Biden should stop pretending and should vote for Nikki Haley and make her the Republican
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nominee.
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If they could switch their primary allegiance.
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They never really believed in anything anyway.
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So this might be where we get that party swap that you want.
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I mean, that's what I'm saying.
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Why not?
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It makes more sense than relying on Republicans to do anything close to the right thing.
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And you don't actually believe in anything.
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So you're saying that like center Democrats could essentially take over the Republican
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primaries by shifting parties.
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Correct.
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Vote for Nikki Haley.
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Yes.
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That would be chaos.
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It would make more sense than whatever it is they've chosen to do for the past my entire
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life.
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I do see the sense in it.
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Yeah.
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I still think that they would be probably betraying a fair amount of things that are
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politically supposed to be what they are.
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Sorry.
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I didn't mean to over exaggerate that maniacal laughter quote Jordan fake laugh.
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So Alex is going to do this deep dive on the Epstein situation.
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Jason Burmas is going to come back in.
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They're going to take care of it.
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You're going to get really into the weeds.
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They're not.
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Yeah.
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They're going to be real fuckheads.
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But yeah, first there's other business.
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Okay.
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It's crazy because I've been covering the pedophile rings, the Mossad CIA, MI6 operations
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and King Charles and Jimmy Savelle for 29 years on air.
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Don't you dare say anything about Jimmy Savelle.
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Oh God.
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Ted Gunderson and General Parton and all these experts, former FBI agents, former top generals
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that explained to me how they were controlling people.
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And so I have forgotten more than most people ever know about this, but Jason's done a really
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good job at getting it all together with the documents.
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That's coming up in about five minutes when we come back from this one little short 60
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second break.
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But right now I want everybody to listen to me very, very carefully because just like
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our information is game changing, this is incredibly game changing information.
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So get ready.
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I'm also going to cut an ad right now that will run on the show live here.
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This is an ad I'm about to cut live on air with everybody watching.
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Ladies and gentlemen, two years ago I went to two separate high end health clinics where
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I get my blood tested every few years and also get BKGs and things in my heart.
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And I noticed that at both the facilities, the hottest thing with top medical doctors
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was methylfolate.
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He's selling methylfolate now.
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What's methylfolate?
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I don't know.
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Some sort of supplement.
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I don't know.
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That's fair.
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From the cursory research that I did, I think this is not a great thing that Alex should
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be selling.
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It can mess with your serotonin and dopamine levels.
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Great.
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So suicidal thoughts would be a fucking side effect if it was a regulated industry.
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Alex explains that Northern Europeans tend to have some sort of broken chromosome that
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affects your energy levels and this makes you woo hoo hoo back to having full energy.
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It's very weird.
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I would say-
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There's a racial component, ethnic component even to his ad pitch about broken chromosomes
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and stuff.
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But I do think that that is probably a better evidence of true racism from your show that
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you're like, fuck it.
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Only white people will really need this.
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The broken chromosomes.
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I know who my audience is.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So Alex brings in Jason Burmas for this deep dive and Jason goes a little bit off track
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right from the job.
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So Jason, you're going to be, you got your own computer system, you're going to be putting
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documents on.
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We'll be putting them up as well.
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Start with what you were saying yesterday in the fourth hour.
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I put it on X, got about a million and a half views just on our channel, a million more
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other places.
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It's exploded.
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A lot of folks are tuning right now.
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So give people the real deep dive until we go to break in 19 minutes and then I'm going
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to come back and get into the areas I want and give us the million foot view of the whole
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nasty thing and tie it all together and explain that this is how they control things.
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The currency is children.
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And now with the biomedical tyranny and the UN treaty, they don't want just want our children.
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They want all of our bodies.
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It's about rape.
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It's about owning us.
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It's about that power.
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All right.
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Jason Burmas.
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Alex, you know, I was going to begin with the Epstein saga all the way back to what
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we now know is at least publicly the first report to the NYPD and the FBI all the way
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back in 1996.
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But you said something, Key, you talked about the quote unquote finders group and this was
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a group.
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OK, so we're going to veer off into finders stuff.
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So that's good.
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That's great.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, this this deep dive is we're going to get all into the it's not really it.
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You know what it is?
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It's just a barrage of touchstone talking points and and Jason going off on weird conspiracy
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tangents about a subject that I resent them not taking more seriously.
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I think it's fucking I've it's it's no good.
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So Jason talks about the finders because that's that's where he's he's starting things off.
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Great.
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And he's not not really on the right track.
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The quote unquote finders group.
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And this was a group that had not only connections to the Central Intelligence Agency in the
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eighties, but the initial incident, which if anybody looks at the local police reports
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that you can find on the FBI's own website and written, by the way, is so disturbing
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and egregious.
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You have to wonder what was going on.
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These children who were extremely dirty were playing in a park and the adults that with
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them didn't seem to be their parents.
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When the law enforcement investigated, these people were connected to the Internet before
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the Internet existed through their van, through wireless technology.
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So they had all of this high tech gear.
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The kids were clearly abused.
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And I'm not going to even get into how grotesquely once they had medical examinations.
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But we're talking about young children being anally abused.
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I'm going to leave it at that.
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And really, this whole thing was covered up, but it led into what was essentially an underage
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blackmail ring inside of D.C.
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And we actually put a portion of it in the film Invisible Empire, a new world order to
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find which you produced.
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And what was so scary and egregious in that case is you had somebody who was sitting in
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Congress, Barney Frank.
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He was not out as a homosexual at the time, but he had hired basically this young madam,
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this male madam.
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And this guy was running a brothel not only out of Barney Frank's apartment, which they
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had ethics hearings on.
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Anybody can watch those on C-SPAN.
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But it actually went to the local Chevy Chase Middle School and involved the vice principal.
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This was all the way back in the 80s.
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Now fast forward to, again, that first report on Epstein in 1996.
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And let me just stop you, I'm going to give you the floor in a moment, but since you got
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into Finders, they even raided this big warehouse that had all these satellite uplinks, all
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this high tech equipment where they were shooting child porn.
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This all came out.
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And again, the FBI...
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And I'll leave it at that, I guess.
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It was CIA, just like they did with Epstein.
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This all didn't come out.
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So there is a distinct possibility that those children that were found in the van, the Finders,
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that 1987 arrest, there's a possibility that they were victims of abuse, as is often the
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case with cults.
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But also the media botched that story considerably.
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The people who did the investigation found that they couldn't rule out abuse, but not
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that they could indicate that there was abuse.
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And so the media screwed that up, and that's what Burmas is reporting on.
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It's a far more sensational story.
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But everything else that Burmas is saying here is unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense
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that has no basis in reality.
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The CIA connection that Burmas is hanging all that on is that the CIA sent some employees
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to a company called Future Enterprises Incorporated, which taught computer skills in the 80s.
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At some point, a member of the Finders named Robert Gardner was employed by Future Enterprises.
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Also, the leader of the group, Marion Petty, his wife was employed by the CIA in the 50s,
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but it died in 1984, and there's no connection that's ever been established through her with
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the group to the CIA.
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At the time of this 1987 arrest, the story got whipped up into the prevailing satanic
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panic, and everything about the case got sensationalized with fantastical details, like what Burmas
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is regurgitating.
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And then in 2019, the FBI released over 300 pages of documents about the case, and none
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of this stuff is in any way backed up by them.
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So what do the truth seekers at the Infowar, what do they do?
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They hold tight to the satanic panic gossip conspiracy shit while pretending that what
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they're actually doing is basing their coverage on the legitimate sources, like the FBI release.
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It's a parlor trick.
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It's what they do.
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Barney Frank associated with a male sex worker named Steve Gobi, who was alleged to have
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been running a sex work operation out of Frank's home.
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There's no indication that there's anything further illegal about it, like involving trafficking
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of kids or blackmail operations, as Burmas is clearly trying to insinuate.
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Sure, but running a brothel is illegal.
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Right.
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Yes.
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No, hey.
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There's nothing we can do about that.
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Sure.
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I'm not going to pretend that's not-
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I don't think it should be.
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And-
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Morally, I'm against that, but what do you do?
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I agree.
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And I would say that I think that it is ambitious, that's not the right word, extreme for someone
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to be running a sex work operation out of the home of somebody who's sitting in Congress.
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Yes.
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I feel like that's overly complicating things in a way that maybe is inappropriate.
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I wouldn't have picked that as my first spot.
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But turning this into a part of this conspiracy is-
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Different.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So he brings up the Chevy Chase Middle School, and it was actually an elementary school.
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So this has to do with the principal of Chevy Chase Elementary School, Gabriel Masaro, resigning
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after it was revealed that he had been involved with Steve Gobi and allowed him to use the
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school after hours to conduct business for his escorting sex work operation.
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Right, right, right, right.
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I'm all for sex work, legalized, et cetera?
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No, can't do that.
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Sorry, buddy.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Big no.
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You can't be using the guidance office after hours to make phone calls.
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Sorry, that's just not gonna go.
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It's really inappropriate and obviously not okay.
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But Burmus is trying to imply that this had to do with something to do with crimes against
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or involving the students at that school, and that is not the case at all.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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But if you're doing it out of a school and people claim that you are, that one's on you.
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That one's on you, not them.
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It is understandable for people to be like, what the hell, but it is not understandable
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for someone in Jason Burmus' position to play this fast and loose with details in order
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to paint the picture that he wants to paint.
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Yes.
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Alex and Burmus are doing what they do with every topic.
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They're blurring details and exaggerating things out so they can exploit optics for
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their own narrative purposes.
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It's an absolute disgrace to do this about a subject like this, but what can you really
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expect?
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Crimes against children evoke a very visceral response from people, and once you've created
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that response, it's really easy to hijack it and use it for your purposes.
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This is just a game to them.
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It's just a game.
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Yeah, it is one of those things that it should give us all pause how effective the satanic
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panic is, despite the fact that we all know about the satanic panic still.
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Like the people who are engaging in satanic panic behavior right now could also be like,
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yeah, man, I lived through that satanic panic.
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Those parents were crazy.
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Well, they could, or you could be like, Alex, and be like, it was all correct and real and
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it never stopped.
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And they covered it up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I noticed one thing in their coverage of this, and that is constantly saying that the
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list that may or may not be coming out that day is a red herring.
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I'm sorry?
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Remember all the new viewers, you're hearing nothing about all the DVDs, about the hard
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drives, about the VHS tapes, closet after closet grabbed by the FBI.
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You're hearing nothing about that.
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It isn't, again, the list is a total distraction.
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What is on the damn video tapes?
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Keep going.
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That doesn't seem like a normal angle for Alex to have.
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And the only conclusion I can come to is he was very worried about whose names might be
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on this.
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Yeah.
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This really seems like we're going to do this to create a distraction from an inconvenient
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realization that Trump was more associated with Epstein than I have insisted for years.
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Yeah.
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I would say this, for all of the claims of people being pedophiles now, all of the random,
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super fast-
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Well, Alex is going to say in a minute it's half of the Democratic Party.
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Totally, totally.
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I think all of that is effective and is the result of Clinton and Prince Andrew not being
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in jail for the rest of their lives.
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Sure.
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Yeah, if anybody could say, because the most famous two people in the world in the 90s
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are put in prison for the rest of their lives, then all of this stuff of, oh, half the Democratic
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Party.
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When somebody is-
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When there are not responsibility and there's not accountability or consequences meted out,
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then it creates fertile territory to make up whatever you want.
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Yep.
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And that is not healthy.
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Yeah.
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And it's where Alex makes a lot of his money.
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Yep.
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Jason Burmas, I found his sourcing on some information to be a little troubling.
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This is a good indication of that.
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And getting into some of the stuff that isn't talked about a lot, yesterday, Alex, we talked
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briefly about a ranch.
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Now- Zorro Ranch.
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I sent over some articles over there where people can see that this was a place where
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Epstein wanted to facilitate a baby-making ranch.
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And this place, unlike New York, allegedly has never been investigated rated.
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In fact, it was sold earlier this year.
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And I'm going to be careful when I say this, but Courtney Love was one of the people inside
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that black book.
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I ended up getting in touch with Courtney Love's father.
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They'd obviously had a falling out by then.
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He had actually made accusations that she was responsible for Kurt Cobain's murder.
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I'm not going to go here nor there, but he essentially told me, he never came on air,
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but I have the logs and I've done videos on it, that a lot of girls didn't make it out
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of the system.
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And when they were used up, they were either taken out to that desert and basically executed
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or taken out onto the water and thrown overboard.
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And he says he knows this because his daughter told him this.
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And again, I'm not saying that's factual.
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I'm just putting it out there.
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Just putting it out there.
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I have a hearsay that I apparently talked to Courtney Love's dad about.
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I have second hand at best.
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At best.
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Information.
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If this conversation happened.
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From notorious, accurate storyteller Courtney Love through a source that actively hates
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her.
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Yeah.
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I'm not saying that you have to not believe everything Courtney Love says, but her dad
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is an unknown entity in a lot of ways.
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Not a fan of Courtney Love.
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This is not what someone who's serious would do.
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I would not report on that as being information worth going on.
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No, but you really, you really want to get into this stuff that you don't want to get
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into.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, we'll just leave it at that.
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He really does seem to have a knack for bringing up stuff that he insists he's not bringing
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up.
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Courtney Love's dad says that she killed Kurt Cobain.
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Now I'm not going to touch that.
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This thing that I just brought up.
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We definitely don't want to exploit any kind of, I mean, now admittedly in the past three
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sentences we've brought up 18 different horrifying, exploitable, sensationalized crimes and then
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said, nah, we're not going to talk about those.
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No, I'm just going to put that out there.
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Yeah.
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I just want you to have that in the back of your mind while you hear the rest of my lies.
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So in the middle of this deep dive, Alex discusses that he's kind of getting some special treatment
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from Elon Musk.
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Yeah, yeah he is.
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But it's a problem because as you see, there's a lot of people who are seeing his content,
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but no one's buying shit.
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Tell me what you want about Musk.
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That's throwing down the gauntlet.
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The New World Order putting us back on there and there's no controls.
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Nobody's blocking us.
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About two weeks ago, about a weekend of being unbanned, we saw them put a shadow ban on
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and I made some phone calls and in two hours it was gone.
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They have third party sites that monitor that and we went and checked them out, a shadow
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ban has been reinstated and boom, I made some calls, boom, I mean, through the call spy
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That's drjonesnaturals.com.
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One word, just drjonesnaturals.com, just drjonesnaturals.com.
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There it is on screen.
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So many other great products there that aren't available anywhere else, all the great silver
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products that you love so much, the wound gel, all of it, the immune gargle, it's all
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there at drjonesnaturals.
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Wait, what was the website?
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So you might notice something.
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Alex's products that he got a cease and desist about, and he got in trouble for selling as
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a preventative or cure for COVID, those are all sold on drjonesnaturals now.
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That's weird.
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It's weird, suspicious, that thing there.
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I wonder, is it?
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It is, because even though they're related, it doesn't matter if drjones isn't being sued.
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So if Alex wanted to, he could move his entire suite of products over to drjonesnaturals.com,
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have drjonesnaturals.com pay an exorbitant advertising fee in order to do all that stuff
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on InfoWars.
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That's exactly what they did with PQPR.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But this is after a bankruptcy settlement, if it's approved and all that.
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If it's after that, then they can just do it again.
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I imagine there would be some sort of difficulty with that.
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You imagine?
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I do imagine.
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Unfortunately, I am imagining the opposite.
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Right.
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I understand what you're saying, and don't get it twisted, I think that's part of what
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is going on here.
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I mean, that's literally what's going on right here.
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But I also think, on another level, it's because Alex got in trouble for selling these products,
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and I think that maybe it's a shielding thing, where you have those products over there.
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They're not being sold by me.
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I sell Dr. Jones Naturals' methyl folate product over here.
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He only sells those on his site, all the silver.
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It's still the same company.
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It's still all the same, the money's all going to Infowars.
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Sure, sure.
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I mean, ultimately, their biggest problem is how lazy they are with accounting.
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Man.
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Wow.
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So we get back to the deep dive, and this time I'm not kidding.
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Okay.
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And it all is just this barrage of non-sequiturs, and Alex's contribution to it is all just
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the same shit.
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Yeah.
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And you look at this, this is really their control system.
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I want your view in your tank, and your expert view, and we produced films decades ago on
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this, you and I, on how big this network is, and how do we defeat them, because it's hiding
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in plain view that MI6, MI5, CIA, Mossad, Interpol's huge in it, there's been massive
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child kidnapping, rape rings that came out of the Netherlands and France, and Rothschild
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castles with kidnapped women and children found in the London Guardian reports 25 years
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ago.
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I mean, there's so much UN worldwide sex slavery rings in Europe and in Haiti, and thousands
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of kids kidnapped and shipped out, and Hillary's head of her foundation goes to prison for
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smuggling little kids illegally into the U.S. that disappear, and then the current open
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borders and the mass smuggling and sex slavery of children, and Senate reports.
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I mean, this is coming out.
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Then the transgenderism and sexually targeting children to confuse them and move them to
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be sterilized.
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I mean, it's about targeting our children.
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So give us your summation, then we'll get into more details of why they're doing this,
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what they're going to do next, how much danger the globalists are in, and how do we get a
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attention on the Justice Department?
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Not just suppressing Wiener's laptop, which, you know, is full of this, and tied to Hillary
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and Uma Abedin and, you know, Chuck Schumer, but it's everywhere.
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This is how they operate.
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I mean, I would say, what, half the Democrats are pedophiles, guesstimation, maybe 15 percent
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of the Republicans, you know, look at Dennis Hastert.
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You can't shake a stick in the dark and not hit one of these things.
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50 versus 15.
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Alex just makes up numbers.
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I mean, what?
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Right.
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Yes, I understand, but it's not the numbers that Alex makes up.
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It's the comparison point and what it means inside Alex's brain that is so crazy.
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It is.
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Because it really doesn't mean Alex believes these people do anything.
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It means, I believe Democrats are more evil than Republicans.
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And I'm using all of this stuff, I'm exploiting all of this language that you care about to
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hurt people.
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about with the, you build up this visceral response and then
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you exploit it.
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That's the exploitation point.
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All the borders, blah, blah, blah, and then it's all transgender people's fault.
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Exactly.
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That's the point where the exploitation of the extreme response and emotional reaction
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that you'll have to these sorts of topics transitions into being targeted at somebody.
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It's targeted at democratic politicians and LGBTQ folk.
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Well, it is like, I emotionally disarm you.
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And then once you've got no defenses, I go, and it's all transgender people's fault.
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The end.
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Or at very least, like Alex isn't actually interested in justice being served.
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He's not interested in the victims of Epstein and his associates.
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He's not interested in a thorough accounting of the people who were actually involved.
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He's interested in exploiting this in order to add fuel to the, first of all, anti-LGBTQ
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narratives that he talks about and the Democrats.
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And part of the reason that the Democrats are so evil is they support LGBTQ folk.
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If every name associated was dealt with appropriately, every single one of them, Alex would still
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claim that this is all a conspiracy against just Trump.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the bottom line, like I said, most of this big presentation, this seems to be the bottom
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line.
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So it's lies within lies.
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We obsess over the client list.
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We obsess over the flight logs, important, gives us ideas there.
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But that's like knowing somebody is a suspect in a murder and a witness says, I saw John
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Doe shoot the woman in the back of the head in his yard and put her in the back of his
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car.
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The police go there, open the back of the trunk, the woman's in the car, and then they
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go and grab him inside and under her fingernails is his skin where she scratched him.
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That's open and shut, murder one.
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You're going to the electric chair, going to lethal injection these days.
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So all I'm saying is, don't fall for the trap of sitting there.
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And when they spice this in with, with these people, I look, Hollywood's so evil.
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I don't know what Tom Hanks is into, but we need to actually go out to people that we
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have red handed like Bill Clinton, like Bill Gates, Donald Trump.
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So yeah, I mean, this is just a, don't be, don't be sucked in by the client list or what
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if, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't look over association just in case crazy.
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That really seems to be the overwhelming point that he's getting at.
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He brings it up over and over again and it's a little transparent.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the only reasonable response to this list is get him.
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That's it.
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You know, do it.
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It's, I mean, it's so obvious.
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If it's not get them, it's let's deal with this.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, it is like the list came out and then everybody on the list should be arrested
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tomorrow.
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Sure.
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I mean, from what I understand, the actual thing that was revealed was not that much
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more information than was already available.
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Sure.
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I mean, I imagine there is still more information to come and stuff.
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So, but which says even worse things, you know?
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Sure.
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So speaking of even worse things, we now get to brother Nathaniel showing up.
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Okay.
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You may have forgotten.
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I did.
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I did forget.
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He was destined to arrive.
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Bummer.
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I mean, I think it gives us him in a dishonest way.
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All right.
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I have seen this guy for 15 years online and brother Nathaniel Catmer joins us.
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He was born to two Jewish parents that arranged traditional Judaism, a synagogue having to
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do the Hebrew school, Sabbath school and regular synagogue services.
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He felt from his bar mitzvah days that something was missing in Judaism at the age of 19.
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He read the new Testament and the first time was convinced that Jesus was a Messiah later
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on.
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In his life, he felt necessary to start a real Jews news website and video to point
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of the dominant influence of Jewry in all facets of American life.
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And this is part of a series I'm doing where we have Nick Foyntez on, and then I'm going
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to have Ezra Lavanne, who I think is awesome on.
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I love Jews.
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I love Muslims.
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I love everybody.
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I want to be clear about that, but I think we should hear what the different sides are
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saying.
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I used to see Catmer very entertaining and, you know, kind of being aggressive and mad
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at certain groups.
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I think now I've seen his videos, pretty powerful things he says about Christ and about the
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Orthodox Church.
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And I'm not part of that.
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I'm just a Christian, you know, with the Holy Spirit.
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And I think it's important to have these dialogues and then ask him questions here today that
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I have.
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I don't think that he's actually all that associated with the Orthodox Church.
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I think he's just a mad man and he's mentally unwell.
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That is definitely true.
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So you can see a bit of the sleight of hand trick Alex is trying to pull here, where he's
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acting as if he's doing a series of interviews where the different parties are either pro
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or anti-Israel.
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That's where rebel media head Ezra Lavanne comes in.
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He's pro-Israel, and Alex referenced interviewing him to get that perspective.
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The problem is that the other side that he's interviewing isn't actually anti-Israel.
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They're anti-Semites.
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Brother Nathaniel couches his anti-Semitism in opposition to Israel, so does Nick Foyntez,
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and let's throw yay into that pile.
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Alex doesn't actually have any representation of a real non-bigot opposition to Israel position
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on his show.
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The only two sides are extremist support of Israel and varying degrees of crypto anti-Semitism.
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You can easily see the problem that this presents.
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There are very many understandable reasons to be critical of Israel's government right
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now, and in fact, it's very difficult to conjure up a sensible defense for their government's
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actions in Gaza.
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Alex's audience is very primed to be receptive to the anti-Israel positions, and by having
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outright anti-Semites be the only representation of that position on his show, Alex is funneling
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his audience directly towards hate.
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This isn't an accident.
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It's the fundamental dynamic of the entire information space that Alex exists inside
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of.
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Most people who have credibility or are sincere actors probably wouldn't agree to come on
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Info Wars, but there are some who would do it.
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Alex would never want that kind of person being the voice of opposition to Israel's
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actions in Gaza because it would be too difficult of a conversation for him, and it would risk
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them pushing back on other essential parts of his game.
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Because he only really associates with other people who are also playing games themselves,
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this is what we get.
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And let me be clear, I'm not just talking shit and accusing Nathaniel of being anti-Semitic
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when he actually just doesn't like the Israeli government.
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He did a three-part series on his website called How Jews Think, and I'll just read
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off a couple of the points that he brings up.
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Quote, the Jew loves being in control.
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The Jew loves to be at the top of the ladder.
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If Christianity were again to be in predominance in America, the Jew would be horror-struck.
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For then he would have the finger pointed at him that he is a Christ denier, a stubborn,
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stiff-necked hater of Jesus Christ, and a supporter of the Jews who brought Christ to
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Pilate to have him crucified.
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So we've got Deicide going.
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Sure.
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And there's another one.
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Always a good one.
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Quote, the Jew will use every means possible to undermine Christianity in whatever nation
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he may reside.
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He will always cry, look what they did to us, as if he's an innocent lamb without any
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faults.
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But whenever someone shows why, quote, they did this to them, he shouts back, you're an
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anti-Semite.
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So this has to do with Nathaniel's frequently stated belief that it was the actions of Jewish
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people that were to blame for Hitler's decision to do the Holocaust, which Nathaniel also
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thinks is a hoax, which is kind of confusing.
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Sure.
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Yeah, that is confusing.
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Here's another one.
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Quote, the Jew does not like to perform manual labor.
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To make money, the Jew is dependent on the labors of others.
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Therefore, the Jew is primarily found in service professions.
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All right, man.
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It's very explicit in his writing that he isn't just opposed to Israel or Zionism.
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He believes that he is at war against the Jews.
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In one of his articles titled, quote, how the Jews are destroying America, he says,
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quote, Jews, mostly Zionists, have spearheaded every movement that it now threatens our destruction.
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He makes a distinction between Jews and Zionists, and it's clear he's talking about Jewish people
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as a whole.
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He proceeds to say, quote, what can we do to stop the Jews?
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Will we fear and quake before the buzzword of anti-Semite, or will we stand in battle
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for the survival of Christian civilization?
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It's up to all of us to wage war against the Jews, especially we Christians, for America
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will either be a Christian America or a Jewish America.
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There is no in between.
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Alex is professing to have a solid awareness of this guy's work, and he says he's been
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watching him for a decade.
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This is the work that this dude puts out.
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Alex has every reason to know exactly what he's doing.
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There is no leg to stand on that he thinks that this is going to be any kind of other
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conversation than what it is.
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Yeah.
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Fucking garbage.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So one of the things that, like, as we, you know, I've given you a little bit of an understanding
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of what Nathaniel does.
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Sure, sure.
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And what his product is.
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Right.
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And so it becomes really difficult to stomach this when you realize, as Alex explicitly
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says here, he invited him on.
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And so, brother Nathaniel Kappner, you can start wherever you want here.
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I just thought you'd be interesting to have you on.
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So thank you for accepting the invitation.
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There's a war going on.
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And Sun Tzu says in the article, you must know who the enemy is, or we're shadowboxing
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as St. Paul says, I know who the enemy is.
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I can go right to the Bible, and I can go to the book of the apocalypse, and our Lord
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God and Savior Jesus Christ said it twice, the synagogue of Satan.
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We're off to a bad start.
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Yeah, this is not good.
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No.
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And if you want to look him up, get a visual of this guy, because I think he might look
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exactly like you imagine.
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Okay.
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So if you pull out your phone and you want to look him up, by all means, feel free to
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do that.
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Brother Nathaniel, what's the last name?
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I don't remember at this point, I just keep calling.
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As my naming of clips went down, I went from brother Nathaniel, to Nathaniel, to Nathan,
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to Nate.
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It just got less and less formal.
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All right, well, see, this is, you know what makes it easier to look for it?
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Brother Nathaniel, anti-semit, oh my God, he looks exactly like what I thought he would
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look like.
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Yeah.
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His voice matches his appearance.
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Everything about it, yep, yep.
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So he gets even more explicit.
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Jews are the enemy.
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They run everything in this country, but they run internationally all the Western governments
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through money.
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The famous saying, I'm sure you know it, Alex, by Mayor M. Rothschild, give me a control
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of a nation's money.
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And I care not who makes its law.
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So no one can provide a citation for that quote.
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People have searched far and wide for any evidence that it was actually said by Mayor
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M. Rothschild, and they've come up with nothing.
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It feels like something that he would have said, and it works really well for conspiracy
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theories.
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So it's regurgitated nonstop.
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But when you hear somebody repeat that, they're probably not somebody who cares that much
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about facts.
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Probably someone playing a little fast and loose.
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Generally speaking, quotes are just, leave them alone.
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That's one thing that I've learned from this show over the course of doing it and seeing
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Alex's constant fake and dubious quotes.
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It's the mark of, you know what the problem is, though, is when someone is able to quote
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literature or something like that, it is very, it's a mark of somebody who's well-read.
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Every happy family is the same, and every unhappy family is different.
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Simple.
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What?
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Who said that?
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Brothers Karamazov.
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Oh.
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Close.
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Yeah.
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Debatably close.
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So, he believes that the Jews are the enemy.
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Sure.
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Great.
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Not great.
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Terrible.
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Terrible.
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He believes that they control everything, including the stock market.
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This becomes an issue for Alex.
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Wait, that specifically is the problem.
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Yeah, because of a relative of his that I forgot about.
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So this is what I grew up in, with a father, strong Orthodox Jew, strong religious and
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racial identity, who was not a Zionist, who understood where the money comes from.
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My dad knew it, because he played the stocks.
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His brother, his younger brother, made over a million dollars in the stock market, never
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worked a day in his life.
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And my other brother was a stockbroker, his other brother was a stockbroker.
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I think I understand some things that, excuse the expression, that Goyim could never understand.
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Well, it was actually my ancestor, direct lineage paternal, who invented the stock exchange.
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He was English.
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His name was Gresham.
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His symbol was the grasshopper.
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You say the Jews invented the stock market.
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Well, they did.
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The Jews, okay, you want to say somebody, someone here invented it, but the one who
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internationalized it was Jewry.
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Okay.
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That's your dodge?
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Ah, okay, fine.
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Your weirdo dad, your weirdo relative invented it.
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But the Jews popularized it.
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It's like hip hop.
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It's another, it's one that I forget from time to time of Alex's lineage, Gresham, the
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inventor of the stock market.
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He's everything, every single import, he's like the Steve Pachannik of lineage.
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Every important person.
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Oh yeah, I'm related to that person.
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Cool, man.
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Yeah.
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So one thing that I think is strange is that Alex has had this guy on, he says that he
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knows what his vibe is, he's been aware of this guy, he invited him to come on.
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He's out of the box, said that Jews are the enemy.
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Right.
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That was a bad move.
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Right.
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But what's even a weirder move is Alex is trying to find common ground with him.
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Well, I mean, we're all people, you know?
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Right.
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At the core.
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Mayor R.M.
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Scholz was right.
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Give me control of the nation's money.
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I don't care who makes its laws.
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And this is what Larry Fink of BlackRock is part of, is part of this whole R.M.
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Scholz orbit.
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Larry Fink did say we're going to control everybody's... Control corporations, you
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control media.
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You can control every hack on Capitol Hill with money.
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Well, Larry Fink-
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Hernandez?
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Larry Fink-
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He will never go to jail.
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Never.
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I guarantee you, he will never go to jail.
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Well, Larry Fink did say repeatedly, we will control everybody's behavior with money.
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Oh, he does.
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He owns broad shares in Disney.
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So he's part of this woke thing because the whole, and I learned this from a child, the
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whole thing about Jewry is to destroy Christianity.
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Now, if they can't destroy Jesus Christ, which is impossible, they'll do everything they
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can to undermine his teachings.
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And one of the teachings of the Bible, okay, is that the male and the female come together
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for procreation and holy matrimony.
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So they're going after that.
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They're going after that first and they're going after the youth.
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Me and you, they're not going to get, Alex.
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Okay?
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We're over 50.
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The over 50 crowd, they couldn't care less about.
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It's the nine year olds, the 10 year olds.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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We got to go to break.
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I want to come back and debate you on this because I just think, well, let's just talk
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about it.
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We'll be right back.
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Yeah.
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He's on a debate.
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Uh, not a debate.
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Uh, Alex is trying to find a common ground desperately by being like, Oh, I don't like
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Larry Fink either.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what are, what are we doing here?
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I don't know.
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What is, what is, here's what I, here's, here's something that I think.
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Mm hmm.
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Here's what something might be true.
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If you let somebody like brother Nathaniel or Alex Jones or whatever, lay out a long
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enough plan, you like Alex Jones, we'll find a personal connection to why it is not true.
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You know, you'll find something where you're like, you know, no, I remember my ancestors
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created the stock market.
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I think, I think that's the weird thing about how interconnected we all are.
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You know, like that whole statistical thing wherever there's a hundred people in a robe,
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there's
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something like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's one of those things.
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Like if you let these people talk long enough, you will personally know they're lying to
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you.
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Right.
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But if you're a liar like Alex, the converse is true.
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You let a guy talk like this long enough.
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You'll find things that are like, fuck, I agree with you.
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Fuck yeah.
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That's a good point.
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Well actually, let me, let me even distill this down even further.
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You'll hear constant things that you agree with, but you'll find something that's safe
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for you to agree with.
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That you can't help but have to agree with on air.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, you know, I, I will never say to his credit, but he does try to defend Jewish
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people and that doesn't go, uh, I imagine that's not going to go well.
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Nah.
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I want to just have a big tent and I see a lot of Jews that, you know, call in and on
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the street that support me that are, that are just conservatives and are good people.
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You know, like your dad was, and you know, we had, uh, you know, all these great Jewish
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people on over the years, uh, you know, doctors and scientists that are fighting tyranny.
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And I just think it's not fair to them to just say this is a Jewish conspiracy.
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You can say there's an organized global, you know, different racial crime groups and we
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know that's real and I get opposed by those groups.
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So that's all I'm trying to say.
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I'm going to give you the floor now.
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I'm going to shut up.
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Go ahead.
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Well, look, let's name some names.
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Let's start with that.
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And let's see what their, their race is and what, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, press the button.
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Somebody press a button.
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Who's the head of Disney, Robert Eiger and Alan Frank.
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I don't like the way you said it.
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They're Jews.
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What are they doing?
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Well, they get a lot of money from Larry Fink of BlackRock who's into woke to destroy the
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youth to get them to cut off their penises and stick in uteruses.
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Okay.
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They're Jews.
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There's two Jews.
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Let me give you another Jew, Albert Bourla, I think his name, Greek, uh, descent ethnically,
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but Jew racially, he is the head dude of the clutch shot, a poison in your vein, the MRNA.
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It's not a vaccine.
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He's a Jew.
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There's two.
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Okay.
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Medical, the Jew, culture, the Jew, Disney.
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Okay.
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Pfizer.
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All right.
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He's the CEO of Pfizer.
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Of course.
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He's a front man.
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There's money behind it.
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Jewish money.
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Alex, what are you doing?
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I just gonna, I'm going to debate this guy by which I mean, let him list off the names
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and ethnicities of everyone that he can think of at any given point in time.
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Great.
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Cool.
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Cool.
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This is dark.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know what always, you know, what always confuses me about these and I mean, it doesn't,
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it doesn't actually confuse me, but I get it.
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It's just like, man, there are so many CEOs I get that you can list off, you know, and
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I, I mean, to a lot of people, it seems like how many CEOs could there possibly, there's
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so many of them.
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There are a bunch.
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There's so many.
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Don't, I mean, it doesn't matter how many, anything under like 150 CEOs.
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I don't care what your sample size is.
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That's, isn't that the point of demographics?
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Well, and also, I mean like the, these people that you're taking aim at are about conspiracy
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nonsense.
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Yeah.
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Like there's valid criticisms of Disney and they're not yours.
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They're not the ones you're making valid criticisms of Pfizer and it's not that it's a clot shot
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or whatever bullshit you're going in.
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Yeah.
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It seems, I don't know.
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It's just all very stupid.
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And I mean like, I can't, I can't stress enough how, how static it is just Alex sitting there
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and it was like, I'm just gonna let this guy name off people and demonize them about their
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Jewishness.
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And we couldn't even sit there without going, oh no, yeah, it should be a physical visceral
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reaction.
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You know, you shouldn't, we, I didn't think, oh, I should react this way to this input.
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No, no, but Alex doesn't have that same instinct.
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Yeah, that's a bad thing.
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Yeah.
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So apparently the Jewish people took over the country back in 1913.
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1913?
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Yeah.
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Fed.
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The Fed.
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Well, I mean for sure.
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Yeah.
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And Nate talks about that a little bit.
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Now I'm always going to go back to this and it's become going in one ear out the other,
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not with you, but with others.
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Give me a control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws.
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America lost its sovereignty in 1913 when the Jews from Europe headed by Paul Warburg
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and his brother Max Warburg who were connected to the Rothschild dynasty.
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Those are the real boys and they took over our money printing and you, Andrew Jackson
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wanted nothing to do with it.
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He's the real hero.
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Are we going to have another Andrew Jackson?
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You're not going to get in there with Trump because he is tied into Jewish money with
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all his real estate.
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Let me ask you this, let me ask you this, let me ask you this, Trump's daughter is married
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to a Jew.
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So he's got Jewish children.
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He's a Jew because his first wife was a Jew, Alex.
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I know this because every boy is your girl who wants to convert to Judaism to marry a
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Jewish boy.
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Jared has to go through to make fun.
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These are something I understand nobody else does.
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She never did.
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She didn't have to because Ivana is a Jew.
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You look at her face.
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We all know.
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Well, here's what I do.
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Here's what I do.
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So they look at my face.
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We know who we know each other.
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Okay.
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She never went through to make fun.
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She's already a Jew because Jews trace their race and their race is everything.
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Through the mother.
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It's everything.
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Through the mother.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I mean, this interview should have ended.
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There's no reason to continue this interview.
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I mean, past the point where he says like Jews are the enemy, like maybe 40 seconds
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into talking to him.
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I don't think there's much reason to ask him questions about who Ivana decided to marry.
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I would say to everyone listening, there are plenty of people, you know, there's tons of
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people who are already on board, but there are plenty of people who might push back,
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right?
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Refer back to the tomato conversation and then listen to that and then see if your opinions
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have changed.
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Maybe back then, maybe an hour ago, you were like, ah, I think tomatoes are the wrong way
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to go.
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And then you listen to that and you already got a tomato in the air.
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Yeah.
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It seems hard not to have one.
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Yeah.
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You have to lock and load your members of the nightshade family because it gets worse.
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When Jesus said the synagogue of Satan, he is talking collective Jews operate as a collective.
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You want to find out how many Jewish organizations there are.
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You can't count them.
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There's probably a thousand of them because Jews operate as a collective.
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If there's probably a thousand, then you can count them.
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He's a real, very accountable number.
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But he will never, never condemn the Pharisees for crucifying our Lord, God and Savior.
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I'm sorry.
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Do we still need to, are we, are we at the place now still where it's like, oh, you're
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not condemning this act of terrorism, the killing of Christ several thousand years ago.
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Your neighbor who happens to be Jewish might be a perfectly nice person, but still a member
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of the synagogue of Satan.
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See that makes me think that this isn't about Israel, this isn't about Zionism at all.
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This seems like a Nazi fuck.
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I do like the idea of a, my next interview series is going to be all the different flavors
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of Nazi and we're going to figure out what shade of beige goes best with what form of
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uniform.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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I mean, I think, I think that obviously having an interview series with people like this
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that maybe could be something that is useful to public understanding, you know, like, but
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it would have to be someone very well equipped and prepared to have an adversarial interview
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with someone like this.
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But you know, knowing what people in these Myers think about and talk like, maybe that
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could be profitable to people's understanding of like, people actually do think this and
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they have an audience and it's like, these people exist, maybe that does help some public
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awareness.
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Alex Jones is not the person to do that, he's not equipped and he's not even setting out
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to do that.
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No.
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And I mean, you know, promoting this guy and considering the number of, uh, this Nazi dresses
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well, we've, we've read over the years.
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Yeah.
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Lord knows who's fucking, I don't know who and far be for me to be pretending that I
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could do it.
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I couldn't, I couldn't have a conversation with this guy that would be productive.
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I don't want to more than I could, or I don't even want to think about whether or not I
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could.
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I don't want to.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to either, but I, I, I don't, I don't harbor on a labor under the delusion.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Like, Oh, he put me on the mic with him and I will do a responsible, effective interview.
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I don't think I could.
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No, I'm not trying to Mark Wahlberg this plane.
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No, no, certainly not.
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Yeah.
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So Alex asks him, I guess he wants to get off the track a little bit and he asks him
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about his conversion to Christianity.
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And so he tells, that's going to keep you back on the same track, isn't it?
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It's a long story.
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It's a long story.
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It has to do with his rabbi spitting when he hears about Jesus, but it goes so long.
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Okay.
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So I just cut to the part where Alex takes issue with something and I was with the Jews
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for Jesus movement.
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I handed out the booklets with them and all that.
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And I knew all the time that there was something missing in Judaism.
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So with them, but not full time because I wanted to make money.
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I was a good Jewish boy.
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I want to make money and I became a salesman, but I would hand out booklets with them.
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Jesus made me kosher.
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If you don't like being born, try being born again.
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Let me stop you again.
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I want you to continue your story, but only Jews want to make money.
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I mean, this is just, come on, man, listen, here's my deal.
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Here's the deal.
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I cannot, I cannot, I cannot sit there and say one group of people.
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Let me ask you this.
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This is a serious question.
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Let me ask you a question, I understand that it's like Alan Dershowitz said, Jews shouldn't
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apologize for being successful.
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Okay.
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The point is, I never said that.
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I said, Alan Dershowitz said it.
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Your buddy.
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It's on Twitter.
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It's on Xbox.
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Alan Dershowitz says Jews should never apologize for being successful.
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I'm saying nobody.
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Here's the deal.
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I've been successful with my lists are supporting me and I don't have any groups, not the CIA,
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not the FBI, not the ADL.
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Tell me what to do.
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Okay.
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So I know damn well my audience and myself, but it was operation.
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So I'm just tired of apportioning magical power to Jews and then if I slip on a banana
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peel tonight, that I'm going to, money buys politicians, answer my question.
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So you think only Jews like money?
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I never said that.
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Well you keep saying, you keep saying the Jews, I was a good Jewish boy, I wanted money.
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It's one thing to make money.
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It's another thing to print money out of thin air.
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You and I would be counterfeit if we did that.
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So man, he is just like so desperate to find a safe way to attack this guy that he makes
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up something.
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That's weird.
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His impulses here are very weird because I hate Nathaniel.
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I think he sucks.
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And even I can tell that I wanted to make money like a good Jewish boy.
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I could tell that's a joke.
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Alex intentionally is misreading that to have a safe way to kind of pretend that he's pushing
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back.
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That's what he's doing.
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He's trying to create the appearance of disagreement in some way as opposed to the fundamental
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disagreement that he should have with this guy, which he doesn't.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It is not a disagreement if you say, listen, I know the stereotype, but I'm an extremely
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greedy person.
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That doesn't help.
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That doesn't help anybody.
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No.
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You're just reinforcing a stereotype?
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Maybe.
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Via association.
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So there's another angle of this too that I think is really interesting.
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I don't really fully understand how to flesh out and explain, but you know how Alex constantly
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says that people take things that he says in jest or satire and then they attack him
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over it?
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Yeah.
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He's doing that to him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's doing the thing that he says everybody else does to him, which is the constant dynamic.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's not good.
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So we get to Putin.
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Oh, I wish we didn't.
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He likes Putin.
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I'm unsurprised.
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I'm unsurprised.
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So they talk about Putin here and Alex concedes something that is bizarre.
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The globalist, whoever you say runs it, go after anybody trying to create their own monetary
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system.
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Gaddafi, Saddam, you're right.
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They always start a war.
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So were you expecting a war?
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Start over.
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They can't get rid of Vladimir Putin.
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They would love to.
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They're using Ukraine boys, these poor Christian boys to get rid of Vladimir Putin because
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they've got this crazy woman who was born noodle man.
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Her name is Victoria Newell, a noodle, a new, uh, Newland now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Go ahead.
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Your name?
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That's Goya.
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She was born a noodle man.
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Okay.
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Cause I know this.
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We all know this.
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Okay.
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She's the one that wants to destroy Putin.
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Jews hate Russia because Russia is now, uh, re uh, vitalizing what is known in Carmen
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parlance, the Byzantine empire stopped there.
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That's that.
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That's it's true that he's revitalized the museum empire.
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What?
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Wait, why are you agree?
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That's not, that's not in line with the things that you say all the time, Alex Putin's trying
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to revitalize the Byzantine empire.
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That one, I thought he was just trying to protect Russians in the Donbass region.
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I mean, or, or at the very least try denazification as a reconstitute the, the
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Byzantine empire.
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Yeah.
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That one, that one does sound, and I'm going to throw this word out there imperial a little
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I'm almost, yeah.
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Revitalize the Byzantine empire.
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Good, good stuff.
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So if you want to revitalize an empire, all right, generally speaking, revitalize suggests
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that it returns to similar, if not greater, a position of power.
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If you have lost territory, revitalizing that might be retaking or perhaps invading other
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people.
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And I'm not the greatest expert on empires and you know, maybe geographical history and
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stuff like that.
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But was Russia even in the Byzantine empire?
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Is it more Mediterranean?
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I don't, I mean, I think it extended east enough to count for some of Russia, but it
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wasn't like all of Russia.
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Yeah.
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I'm looking at maps here.
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I pulled, I pulled up a map here and it goes east enough to touch Russia, right?
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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It's it's well, maybe the Soviet union.
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Well, I think, I think that reveals far more than we really want to do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That is the video.
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Okay.
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So anyway, Nathan, Nathaniel, Nate.
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He knows people who know Putin because of course, I really don't think he does.
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Putin looks at the long range.
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That's how he's operating his military operation in Ukraine.
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Not to just go in and destroy, destroy.
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He's looking at the long range of attrition.
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He's a very clever man.
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I know people in my Orthodox church who know him personally and they tell me things that
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no one else is going to know about him.
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I know how he operates.
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So he is in it for the long term.
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Now 2024, maybe a lousy year for us.
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Alex, and I include you with us.
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I do.
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Okay.
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Because you're fighting for a sovereign America and I am too.
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But the difference between you and me is I name the names who are the real enemies who
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are really controlling these things because this is the whole Jewish mind I grew up with.
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How are we going to control the glam because the Jews look upon the glam as stupid?
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Yep.
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So Alex, what are you doing?
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What the fuck are you doing?
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Ah, I, well, here's what I'm going to do.
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I'm going to debate this person who I disagree with violently about their antisemitism.
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Sure.
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Uh, now I will give them the floor to list the names and ethnicities of, uh, and then
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I'm also going to let him, uh, spout as much antisemitic bullshit as possible.
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File nonsense.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to, I'm not going to push back on it beyond to say that, you know what, I think
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sometimes he takes one single stereotype a little bit too far.
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In a joke.
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Humoristic.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then I'm also going to allow him to say that we're alike, but the difference is that
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I name names and you don't.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You're a coward.
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I would really want, I would really want to let that one slide.
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Yeah.
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Oh God.
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Not good.
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So instead of being too upset about that, Alex decides to, uh, go ahead and plug his
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website.
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Great.
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People can find you.
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What's, what's the best place for people to find you?
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We'll do 50 more minutes, but when you find your, your, your reports, they will see it.
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Real June News.
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I do videos, state of the art videos.
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My graphics are just, well, blow people away.
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State of the art.
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It's like a Marvel film.
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I just want to open a dialogue with everybody and listeners, you know, get mad on them.
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Alex, I want you to tell you, I want to tell you they, they banned Bible with brother.
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I wanted to just do the Bible.
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I was reaching the kids, 16, 17, 18, hold on, we got to go to break.
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And speaking of making money, I got to make money to fund this operation, the crew, the
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satellites, the legal stuff, Trump too.
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I think Trump's great.
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I think Trump's great.
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Good.
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Good.
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Uh, good to instincts.
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So they canceled Bible with brother.
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Can you believe it?
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This is about as horrifically antisemitic as like Dean Martin on one of those roasts
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in the sixties.
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Yeah.
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I mean, big picture.
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I get a real bad vibe from this guy, even despite what he's saying.
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Like if you take what he's saying out of it, the way he's communicating and such makes
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me feel bad.
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If I were somebody who was in an interview position, I wouldn't feel comfortable with
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this.
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Even if he wasn't saying all this horrible shit about Jewish people.
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Yeah.
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He's got the wrong meter for, for the way you can.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Not good.
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So Alex comes back.
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I don't know why.
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Why are you continuing this?
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I thought, I thought the part of the, like, Hey, we got to go to break was a little bit
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of a, we can, I need to do a plug and then I can get you 15 minutes more with you.
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Oh my God.
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So Alex, this, this clip is just titled Alex asks stupid questions and get stupid answers.
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And so, you know, are you saying, do you believe the Kazarian thing that Ashkenazi aren't Jews?
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Or is it the Babylonian captivity or Sephardic's the real Jews?
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Are you saying they're all Jews?
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I mean, there's a lot of questions.
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We laughed at the Kazarian theory as kids.
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This is a theory by some scholar was made popular by Arthur Kessler called the 13th
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tribe.
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The Jews off the hook were deicide.
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Okay.
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Oh boy.
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So it wasn't Jews today because everyone's a Khazar.
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They didn't crucify Christ as a collective.
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So it's just a stupid Kazarian myth.
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It's totally a historical, no historian worth his worth.
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If Jews are a collective, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me ask you a question.
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If Jews are collective, I'm asking you a question, I'm asking, hold on, let me ask you a question.
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Is it the Sanhedrin and is the Sanhedrin secretly operating?
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Jews don't need a Sanhedrin.
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They don't need it.
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It's called the synagogue of Satan.
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They're all connected to it through money, through culture or the destruction of Christian
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mores.
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We're going to bring out transhumanism, transgenderism, the main money makers of Jewish surgeons,
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the main pushers of transgenderism are those who own the media.
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I used to live near the owner of CBS.
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His name was Murray Rothstein.
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He changed his name to Sumner Redstone.
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Like he's some blue blooded Yankee.
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We laughed at him, but the goyim don't know.
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And he started this MTV to destroy the youth.
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I wanted to just talk briefly about my Bible with brother.
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I decided I'm going to just do Bible with brother on YouTube.
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I'm not going to do any politics, but I wanted to be really cool and I wanted to reach the
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youth.
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Seems likely.
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It's going to be real cool.
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I don't think this person is someone that I would want to put on air.
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I would say counseling.
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Oh, that would be good.
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Yeah.
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No, I don't think it would take.
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I agree with you there.
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I think that here's the bottom line too.
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If you go to his website and you watch any of his state of the art videos.
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I was worried.
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I think you would immediately come away with the impression, I don't think I want to talk
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to this guy.
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No.
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I don't think this is going to be fruitful.
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I think you'd predict it would go like this.
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And Alex instead has been watching this guy for a decade and decided I'm going to have
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him on as the voice of opposition to Israel.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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Every time, every time all of a sudden out of nowhere, MTV made it to ruin the youth.
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They did.
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I'm glad that's still around.
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But see, his perspective that MTV was created to destroy the youth is evidence for me that
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his Bible with brothers show would be really cool and it would reach the youth.
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But here's the thing I have.
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Here's the thought.
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All right.
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MTV created way back when the people who MTV was ostensibly created to corrupt, they're
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in their fifties and sixties now they're brother Nathaniel's age group.
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Yeah.
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Mm hmm.
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So is he ruined?
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Has he not wrestled with the fact that perhaps he watched one MTV, he watched the grime one
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time.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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And that's all it takes.
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I was in dare.
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It only takes one time.
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Sure.
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What else?
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120 minutes.
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You watch that.
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Fucked him up.
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I don't know.
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Some Michelle Gondry music videos made it that Foo Fighters ever long one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That'll mess you up.
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That'll screw you up.
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The hands too big.
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Can't come up with a better example than the grind.
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Cause that's so fucked up that that was a show.
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Yeah.
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I'll be honest.
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I don't, I don't get into the, uh, you know, bashing of MTV as destroying a generation
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or any of that nonsense, but it is weird that the grind existed because that was just a
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show where you were watching people in bikinis dance.
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Yeah.
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That was it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There was nothing else to that show.
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As I recall that just half naked people while music played and they're dancing at like some
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resorts on spring break.
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What I find fascinating about that is that it is like the, the weirdo perverts version
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of being high at 3 AM and just watching like, uh, diagrams move on a screen.
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You know, it is, it is, and it's not, it's just like,
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It wasn't even like a thing where it's like, we're going to teach you a dance.
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It wasn't a thing where it's like, this is a good cardiovascular exercise.
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Nope.
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Dancing.
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It can be some good, uh, burn some calories.
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It was just people grinding on each other.
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And it wasn't even, and it wasn't even like bringing something that wouldn't be where
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you are, you know, like, like soul train, soul train sent so much into the homes of
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people who could not experience it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Well, debatably, like, I understand you can't get a beach full of right.
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Yeah.
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But you could watch a movie that Elvis was in.
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And I don't think the grind was only on during spring break, but that's the one that sticks
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out in your memory.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's always spring break somewhere.
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That's the rule of the ground.
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You know where it's never spring break Bible with brother.
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So anyway, I agree.
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You may be surprised to learn that the Jews canceled a Bible with brother.
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I decided I'm going to just do Bible with brother on YouTube.
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I'm not going to do any politics, but I want to be really cool.
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And I wanted to reach the youth.
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I wasn't interested in preaching to the choir.
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Okay.
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Now what happens?
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I get 3000 and 4,000 comments from kids.
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You don't think the kids don't know who's going to comment section.
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They have a profile on everybody on, on YouTube.
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Okay.
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Everybody after I get a million views per month, shut me down.
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Done.
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For what?
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I thought this must be an algorithm because I'm using biblical language.
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Maybe they thought it was political language.
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They would not tell me.
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Now they got some Hindu that take a place of a washesky.
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Okay.
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Washesky still runs that.
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They put some Brown's kid Hindu on like a Robbie Shankar and Google.
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I know who owns it.
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Whoa.
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It wasn't Larry Rabinowitz who changed his name to Brian and it wasn't, uh, no, Sergei
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Rabinowitz.
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And it wasn't Larry Page.
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There were two boys at Stanford and someone from the Mossad who is connected with the
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CIA.
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Cause they are interlinked, started jiggle with those two boys, but they didn't need
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them anymore.
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They got rid of them.
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So I know who got rid of Bible with brother.
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It wasn't the Hindu.
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Okay.
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The Brown's kid dude, the window dressing, it was Susan washesky and the tribe, the synagogue
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of Satan, the collective, Oh my God.
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All right.
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It's all exhausted.
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No, that's not the response to that.
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That is not the response to that.
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You did this Alex.
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That is not the response.
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Oh, this is exhausting.
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Wow.
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Do your job then man.
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I do agree.
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It is exhausting.
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Yeah.
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No shit.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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There's only one person to blame for that.
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And it's not brother Nathaniel.
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It really isn't.
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It really isn't.
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He's doing exactly what you would do in this situation.
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If you're a bigot, you're going to spout your bigotry on this large platform that you're
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being afforded.
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Yeah.
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Alex is to blame for this shit.
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And brother, brother has the feel of somebody who cannot stop themselves.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's why he did Bible with brother.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex, undeterred by all of this, decides, Hey man, you seem like an astute mind.
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Nope.
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I disagree.
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Tell me about your prediction for the election.
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Turns out the vague, not going to win.
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I didn't think so.
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How do you see this election going?
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You said brother, you're saying it's going to be a rough year.
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We're 10 months out.
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You seem like a heady guy.
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What do you think is going to happen?
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Well, it'll be rigged.
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It's either rigged at the ballot box or it's going to be rigged at the white house.
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So either way, it's going to be rigged.
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Okay.
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Now, if I've got some great things, he's never going to get in.
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We know that.
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I call that some Hindu in.
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Okay.
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That's not going to happen.
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Whoever gets in, they may allow Trump to get in.
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They may allow that.
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Okay.
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But, uh, you see what, what's Trump.
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It's not that the Jews hate Trump.
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They don't fear his followers.
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They see with them.
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Oh, that, that.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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USA.
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This is nationalism.
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Okay.
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The meme nationalism, where there's nationalism, the Jews sinks down.
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Okay.
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So it's not Trump that the Jews hate and trying to destroy.
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They despise, they fear his followers because those are the white Christians, the Patriots
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who in a drop of a dime can turn against Israel and say, Hey, why are there so many Jews running
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everything?
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Why are the Jews able to put this money out of thin air?
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Why are the Jews pushing a woke?
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Why is the media pushing transgenderism and homosexuality?
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Why are they just putting all these lesbians in charge of the mayor?
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They fear the great awakening, the people, the people of the great awakening.
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I don't go into abstracts.
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You still go into abstracts.
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Oh boy.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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So I don't know what Alex could have expected other than that, when he asked what your prediction
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for the election is, I mean, I guess he probably was maybe thinking of like, what's your, what
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the candidate do you think is going to do well?
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Maybe you want to talk about Nikki Haley.
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That's fun.
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Yeah.
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Uh, no, no, no.
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See that's, that is the thing though.
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For me, that is, that is the, the line that I always feel like if you're, if you're going
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to say that you have to back it up.
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If you say confidently the election is rigged and it's going to be rigged, your only next
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sentence is we have to overthrow the United States government.
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You cannot tell me anything else.
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Otherwise fuck you.
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Well, I don't care.
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No, the flip side of it could be a nihilism.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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No, but you don't have to encourage overthrowing the government.
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You could just be like, nothing matters.
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That but that's what I'm saying.
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You have, you have effectively brought us to a binary.
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You know, like I'm an extreme about politics and you believe that every single election
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will be rigged.
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Yeah.
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Then either don't care or overthrow the United States government.
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Yeah.
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I'm just saying that's the other side.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But that's what that is.
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But I mean, that is my point.
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You know, like any other response you have, you have brought it to the binary.
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You've brought it to the line that cannot be crossed.
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But here's the problem.
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This guy I think is saying overthrow the U S government, but by virtue of hating Jews.
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Sure.
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So I think that he is passing your test just in the wrong way.
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I suppose.
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Yes.
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That because he believes that, well, yeah, I guess you're right.
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You know, if his, if his prescription for, uh, like getting, uh, making sure we don't
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have rigged elections is, uh, disallowing Jewish people from having any position of
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power or expelling them from the country, then, you know, he has taken a perverted version
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of what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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I suppose you're right.
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Yeah.
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I suppose you're right.
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Yeah.
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Alex on the other hand is, he fails your test.
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Yes.
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Um, yeah.
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It's fascinating.
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So speaking of failing, uh, Alex fails in any sense because he, he likes this guy.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, yeah, he's been watching him for 15 years over a decade.
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I'm shattered on debated some of the most prominent names and obsess on Jews all day.
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Oh God don't.
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And you've not done this.
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So I think you're being fair, but they always described that I'm controlled by Jews.
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That's not, I'm controlled by me.
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Check out his website, Alex.
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Okay.
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I'm in charge of all this.
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I really believe in what I'm doing.
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I'm trying to create unity around ideas that transcend all this.
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And you became a Christian and you, you, you, you know, and I believe you're right about,
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you know, Christ is obviously the Messiah.
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You can feel it.
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You can see it.
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It's incredible.
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Any demonic attacks.
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Christ's name is all powerful.
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It's, it's real.
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People I know that aren't even Christian get attacked spiritually.
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They ask for God's protection and it happens.
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But again, it's baby out with the bathwater.
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Why don't we have an outreach to everybody, the Hindus, the Jews, the Muslims, everybody?
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Because I pull back here and I see the left, the universities, Google, the CIA backing
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Islam right now.
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And I see this weird right wing anti-Jew alliance with Islam attacking Israel.
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And you say, you know, what if Israel went away today?
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That's a tiny little country.
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What would that do?
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I see it as a cop out.
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I think the hearts of men are desperately wicked as the Bible says.
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And I don't think Jews have a monopoly and I don't think they're immune from it either.
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But I really don't prescribe and ascribe mythical powers.
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I think you're an interesting guy.
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You're right.
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Mythical powers.
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Catner.
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You're very likable.
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I mean, like Larry David, super funny, likable.
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I mean, I'll be doing point blank.
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I think Jews are pretty funny, likable people, a picture of Jesus Christ.
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That's despicable.
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Now, there's no such thing as a good Jew.
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Looks oxymoron because if you identify as a Jew, you identify with the Christ crucifiers.
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So yeah, Alex likes us.
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He's very likable.
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He's very likable.
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This guy hates Jewish people.
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He uses the caseler a bit on his website, which is definitely a sign that he's invested
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in the conversation about Israel and power and Zionism as it exists politically as opposed
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to just being a fucking bigot.
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But that's what he is.
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And Alex understands that, but is refusing to act as if that is the case.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is reminiscent of like doctor's panels in the fifties where it's like, we've got
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13 white men to determine how to deal with black women's health issues.
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And you're like, well, surprise, not well.
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But Alex, I just don't understand his insistence in pretending that this conversation has anything
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to do with Israel.
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I'd be like, if Israel disappears tomorrow, you know, like, oh, like that has nothing
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to do with this.
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There's this is, this is now Nazi-ism.
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This is literal Nazi.
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There's no other way to describe a thing that is Nazi-ism more than it's Nazi-ism.
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Now it's funny.
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You should bring that up.
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Is he about to say that this is not Nazi-ism?
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Well, Alex decides, Hey, why not ask him what he thinks of Hitler?
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Great.
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I bet this is going to be a good answer.
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Oh, sure it is.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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I think it was Adolf Hitler because I think Adolf Hitler was power mad.
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You could look at it.
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He glowed with satanic energy.
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I mean, you could just look at him.
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He's powerful, but you're like, whoa, that's evil.
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I mean, he, he, he, he exudes, uh, satanic energy.
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Are you saying you have, you have a sermon, you look at a speech of Hitler, you look at
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his eyes and you're telling me that's not count Dracula.
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Take a look at his pictures with children.
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Oh my God.
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That's what I do.
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I look at body language.
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I study body language.
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I was a straight commission salesman for 25 years.
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I know body language that children love Adolf Hitler.
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Now I just did.
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Oh yeah.
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It says a lot.
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I don't see any evil.
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They didn't see any evil.
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You don't can pick up evil children like that.
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Children love me.
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Okay.
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They just look at me.
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Other people have children.
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They want to come up to me.
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They want to hug me.
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They want to talk to me, whatever.
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Okay.
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But I'm very careful.
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I don't touch children.
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Okay.
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I don't think Adolf Hitler was good.
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Okay.
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What is anyone?
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He's perfectly good.
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I would never say that because we're human beings.
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Okay.
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We all have shades of everything.
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Now Hitler's main concern was Hitler was anti-Christian.
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He was a pagan.
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Okay.
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I'm not even going to go there.
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I'm going to go with what he wanted to do for Germany.
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Like other people want to do for their own nations.
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He wanted to do something for Germany.
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He saw that the Jew who controlled the press, who controlled the arts, who controlled theater,
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who controlled politics, the Weimar regime, okay.
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And who controlled the stock market.
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Okay.
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This guy seems very likable.
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Weird.
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I mean, like, I think of like a proportion or incidents of guests who have very positive
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Hitler feelings.
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Seems high for Alex.
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Yeah.
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It seems like it's increasing quite a bit.
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It's notable.
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Something that I find interesting about how we as a society deal with all this stuff.
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Not we.
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How I watch society from my weird window and wonder if any of it's real because it's insane.
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But only crazy people are honest about the logical inclusion of their beliefs.
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That's kind of our society, right?
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Everybody agrees only crazy people would be honest about what they believe because you
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would be crazy to say that, sure, as a vicious and horrible anti-Semite, I hate and wish
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for the extermination of Jews, but it would be ridiculous to say that I love Hitler.
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That would be crazy.
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So despite the fact that Alex is like, well, I agree with all the things that you have
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said.
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Well, and you have discernment.
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You seem very heady.
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To say that you love Hitler is crazy, sir.
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It seems like it's not disqualifying around info wars.
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You think?
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It's at least the third guest of note.
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In a short period of time.
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Oh boy.
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I don't know if Alex was expecting that answer, but I can't imagine why he wouldn't have.
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Because in society, it's crazy to say the honest truth.
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Well, but I mean, you know, once bitten, twice shy, as they say.
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If he's been twice bitten, third time should be shy.
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Of all the things that we documented extensively over this thousand episodes, I think Alex's
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inability to learn is perhaps one of the most consistent.
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He doesn't realize there's a fourth way.
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That's the only way to learn.
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It's not race memory.
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It's the one where if somebody does something, you go, well, we won't do that again.
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Yeah.
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Fire's hot.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So anyway, now that Nate has given his kudos to Hitler.
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Sure.
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And Alex decides now it's time to give a friendly goodbye to the interview.
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Great.
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Yep.
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Come back on again because we can have a talk next time and maybe I'll be a little calmer.
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Okay.
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It's my first shot here with you.
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Don't worry.
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I'm always wound up too.
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But the ADL says why people are inherently evil.
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So they've opened all this up.
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So I think we should hear from everybody.
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And so that's where I'm at.
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I mean, I agree with you.
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The ADL is pure evil.
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We've opened this up.
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It looks like Nosferatu.
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But listen, I appreciate the debate and the discussion.
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I don't agree with a lot of what you have to say, but I think it's open for discussion.
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I want to thank you for coming on and having a debate.
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We'll be right back with Kate Dally.
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Stay with us.
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It wasn't a debate.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, he's friendly, inviting them back on.
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I don't think that like he was wound up or anything like that.
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That's not the criticism I would have of this.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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But yeah, you pinpointed exactly the issue and this is basically what he said when Ye
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was on too.
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Yep.
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So he has this perception that the ADL thinks all white people are inherently evil and that
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justifies him having friends and promoting outright Nazis.
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Yep.
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So that is the purest sort of boil down of why Alex is doing this.
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Yep.
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He's trying to platform and mainstream and run cover for or at least make look better
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these Nazi figures as an attack on the ADL because he thinks that it's justified because
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of his own white identity self-agreement.
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Right, right.
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Which is never stated often enough.
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As a narcissist, it's always got to be personal too.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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It's like, okay, the ADL doesn't like me, so obviously I'm a Nazi.
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I'm just going to go ahead and go that far.
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They were mean to me personally.
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I mean, I don't know how to describe it other than this just may as well be a Nazi-ass show
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now.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If this flies, then anything.
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Yeah.
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That is Nazis.
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That's Nazis.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Oops, all Nazis.
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And like I said, I don't think that it's just a situation where you can never talk to this
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guy.
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But the context of talking to this guy requires a gentle touch.
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It requires not this.
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This is not a debate.
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It is not a exchange of ideas.
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It is platforming and endorsing a Nazi to your audience.
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Yeah.
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I still maintain this.
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Debates are incredibly stupid.
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Yes.
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But the main reason they're stupid is not because of all the waste of everybody's time.
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It's because if you are going into any conversation, there should be the possibility of you learning
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information.
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Mm-hmm.
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And in no debate, will anybody learn information?
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Usually not.
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Yeah.
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I mean- Especially not the way that they've turned
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into performance cases nowadays.
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Yeah.
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That's what I mean.
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Any entertainment-based debate, which is what we're dealing with.
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It doesn't matter how much you push back on Brother Nathaniel.
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No.
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He came in to say that he hates Jews, and at the end of it, he's going to leave saying
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he hates Jews in all the exact same ways.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there's going to be a non-zero number of your audience who are going to be like,
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fuck yeah, this guy.
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Yep.
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And they're going to be drawn to him, and they're going to watch his horrific state
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of the art videos on his website.
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Yeah.
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And that is on you.
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That is your fault.
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Yeah.
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There is no such-
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There is going to be people who watch this interview in Alex's audience who come away
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with better opinions.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then I think this is something that is always socially true that is hard for us to
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really wrestle with.
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But if at the end of one of these entertainment-based debates, nobody changes anything, and you
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just say, I still believe everything that I exactly believe, it doesn't even matter
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what you have said.
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People will just go, by your conviction, I will follow you.
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That is the way that we work as animals, you know?
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So it's dangerous to have a debatertainment.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think it may... I haven't fully thought about this, so I'm willing to be talked off
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this position.
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Sure.
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But I think it may cause a net negative.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think it might be more harm than good.
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That structure of entertainment.
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Yeah.
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But whatever the case, this did more harm than good.
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100.
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Alex walks away from it, I'm sure, thinking, I did a pretty good job there.
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Oh my God.
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He probably doesn't even realize the toxic bullshit that was this show.
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Yeah.
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You had the disgusting presentation of his deep dive on Epstein, and then this guest
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who, there's no excuse for doing this interview.
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Yeah.
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No excuse for it, and there's no further no excuse for giving up on really trying to guide
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the conversation.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, just every... Yeah.
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Of all the things, Alex should have used his one true power, shouting down this person.
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You can see the way that Nathaniel kept talking whenever Alex tried to interrupt him.
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And Alex wouldn't use the volume power.
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Maybe that tool doesn't work.
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Maybe it doesn't.
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Maybe he's weak.
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He's so weak.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, fuck this episode.
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Yeah.
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Bad start to the year.
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This is one of, that's why the qualifier earlier, just like, this is what I see through my little
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window into the world.
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Who knows if it's... This does have the feel of like, wait, I'm being Truman Shode, right?
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There's no way that this is actually real.
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I have bad news.
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Bad news.
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Dawn of the Grand Prix is still dead, and this is real.
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And this is real.
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Anyway, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgeright.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on somewhere.
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Somewhere at somewhere.
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXClark.
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Yeah.
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I can only bleat the only noise that I can make.
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That's truly how I feel right now.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Thank you for being with us today, and we'll see you next time.
