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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
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I need, I need money.
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Stop it.
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Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas.
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Andy, it's time to pray.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledgefight.
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N-n-n-n-n-knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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We like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex
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Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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My bright spot today is a shout down.
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A shout down.
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Yes.
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Not a shout out.
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Or definitely not up.
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No.
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Down.
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Down.
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So I was looking around for something to watch on the Amazon Prime.
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Sure.
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Because I was just, I'm out of Survivor.
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I'm out of the challenge.
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It is what it is.
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Yeah.
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Those are the only options.
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Exactly.
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Now the fight begins.
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Actually, not true.
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Not true.
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I realized at a certain point, I have no idea what happens on Big Brother.
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I have thought that so many times.
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Every time I hear of Big Brother, I'm like, it's a spy show, right?
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I swear to God.
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I remember the beginning of it, like way back, you know, 20 years ago or whatever.
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And I got a sense that it was just people lived in a house and there was a bunch of
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cameras on them.
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Right.
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And then that was it.
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And then maybe they decided to kick people out periodically if they were assholes.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I didn't know what went on.
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And so I decided to check it out.
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Sure.
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Watch a little bit.
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What goes on?
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I mean, it's just a challenge show basically.
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Oh.
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But the structure of it is so fucking maddening.
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I don't understand, there's all kinds of terminology, like I'm the head of the house so I get the
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big bedroom.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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Anyway, I watched like three episodes of it and I said, I'm out, I can't handle this.
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Okay.
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All right.
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But, so I was looking for something else to watch and I saw something called Survive the
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Raft.
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I thought this is an interesting idea.
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I want, I don't want to know what show you're talking about.
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I want to watch the show Survive the Raft that I am writing in my head right now.
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I will say that it's higher concept than it turns out being.
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Okay.
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So the idea is that there was like this experiment in the seventies where this guy named Santiago
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something.
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Okay, I love a backstory.
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He decided that he was going to get people together from all different countries and
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different beliefs and they were going to go on a fucking raft.
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The Olympics of Rafting.
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No, but nobody gets kicked off just to see a social experiment, to see if they could
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get along.
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Like a, we are the world on the raft.
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But also with the pressure of being on a raft.
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You got to survive on that raft, right?
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I like it.
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I like the raft.
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There was that.
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Okay.
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There was this experiment that happened in the seventies.
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Yeah.
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And so the idea was they're going to recreate the social experiment in the present day with
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people who have vastly different beliefs and opinions and all of this stuff.
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What happens when people stop being fake and start getting rapped?
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It's sort of a real world thing, but it had such a promise of actual like confrontation
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of beliefs and stuff.
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And then it just turned out to be a shitty survivor.
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Like they ended up doing weird competitions to like bank money for their stuff.
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And then at the beginning, there was such a sense that their differences were going
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to be a problem.
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Yeah.
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You know, like there was a guy who in his testimonial interviews was complaining about
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how like people can't say anything anymore.
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Cancel culture.
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Yeah.
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And he turned out to not be that bad.
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He turned out like he kind of just shut up a lot.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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If Biden did his business, it was kind of an asshole periodically, but not as bad as
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you'd think.
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And other people's like, they're like, there was one lady who's like, I'm a Karen, I watch
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Fox News, all this stuff.
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She was fine.
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Yeah.
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She didn't get into fights with people.
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No.
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It was fine.
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None of their differences mattered.
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No, I think, I think a lot of people would be shocked to discover that you know, as much
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as we describe ourselves as one thing, when we're like looking at ourselves through the
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winds of a camera, when we're in social groups, we're completely, you know, generally speaking,
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everybody's just like, I want to have a good time in this social group.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Why would I want to fight somebody now?
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We're on a raft.
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Because that's the premise of a fucking TV show.
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Well, but we're on a raft.
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Now is not the time for fighting about these things.
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The only tension that even existed throughout any of the show was that there was one lady
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who was on it who was a vegan.
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And so she didn't want people fishing.
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Okay.
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But it just turned into her kind of like sulking a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Everybody's like, well, we're going to eat fish, I guess.
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And they like went out of their way to find mushrooms when they'd go foraging for her.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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And so it was like, all right, everybody's fine.
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Hey, let's just remember, she's a vegetarian.
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She doesn't eat fish.
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So yeah, that's great.
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The whole show, disaster.
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I mean, again, if you're making a show designed around creating conflict, right?
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You have to remember to create that conflict.
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You can't like rely on the raft and just different political opinions to do the work for you.
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I think they thought they were with the money.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And then there was a structure where like each episode they'd have a new person come
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in that could be adopted into their raft, but they'd have to kick somebody else out
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in order to do it.
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So there was this tension of like, how do you prioritize people on a raft?
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But like on a, like, I'm sorry, I'm unable to not have like Huck Finn there on the whole
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massive ship.
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What's going on?
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It's just off the shore of like some island.
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Oh, okay.
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So they're not.
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No, it's, it's even an island that was used in a past season of Survivor.
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I can't remember what island it was, but I, yeah, no, terrible.
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In my mind, if you're on the, see, this is why I wanted the show in my head is because
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the raft implies that you are moving.
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They might've been moving a little, it didn't seem like much.
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Right.
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I think you're thinking of a barge.
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I wouldn't mind a barge.
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I wouldn't mind a survive the barge.
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I'd watch that.
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Anyway, what's your bright spot?
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I think it speaks to where, where we both are in our mental state that I'm also on reality
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TV.
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It's the moon.
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No, it's the amazing race.
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Oh, I've, I've caught up with this season.
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Oh yeah.
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Also.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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I had some chores to do.
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And so I put it on in the background.
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I'm I'm I, you know, I'll tell you this, they, when you see a show that's gone for 40 years
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or whatever, you go, ah, there's no way, but that's because they just do it right.
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You know, they just do it right.
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It's a simple formula.
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Maybe you make a little change here or there, but you just don't fuck.
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Don't get in the way of the wacky races.
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Yeah.
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You know, that's what we've all watched.
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Amazing races in some form or another cartoons did it for the, you know what, before we were,
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they had people running across this country and people would show up in their town and
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be like, Hey, he's walking by, you know, that's like, it's there.
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And it's a fun thing too, that you even hear contestants say of like, I traveled vicariously
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through the show.
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So you get to see all these places in the world through their eyes.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I was actually going to text you when I was watching it that I was like, Hey, I'm checking
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out the amazing race.
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I forgot how much I miss this goofy bullshit.
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It's so dumb.
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Yeah, it is really dumb.
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Something to be said for like, just pulp, like just like junk food ass TV.
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Absolutely.
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There is, there is nothing that I need to bring to the amazing race.
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The amazing race brings it all to me.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I had some other thought.
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I forgot what it is, but Oh, I mean, I guess with the survive the raft, that could be what
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that would be, you know, like just junk food TV, but the high concept of it promised to
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be something so much more than infuriates me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I understand.
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I don't want to pull it off because it's like a, it's like a novelty ketchup or something
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like that.
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You know, it's like, come on man.
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Ketchup is ketchup for a reason.
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You know, everybody has it for a reason.
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You can't like make it so much better that you're replacing regular ketchup.
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Ketchup is ketchup.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We got an SJW and a guy who's worried about cancel culture and two racists on a boat.
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What's going to happen?
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What's going on?
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Don't even pitch it that way.
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Nothing's going to happen.
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You know that.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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They're all going to be on a boat.
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That's it.
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That's what's going to happen.
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They're going to be those people and they're going to be like, ah, hi, how you doing?
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And that's it.
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They're on a boat.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I wish I was on a boat.
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Yeah.
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Cause today we have an episode to go over Jordan.
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Oh, God damn it.
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And we're going to be talking about Alex's October 18th episode.
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Ooh.
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Present day.
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Yeah.
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It's all good.
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Feel like you kind of have to.
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Yeah.
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So here's the syllabus.
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What's going to happen on this episode, terrible shit at the beginning, just awful, farce in
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the middle.
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We're going to watch Clue?
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No.
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Again, I wish.
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I wish too.
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That'd be great.
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Just parody, self parody in the middle.
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And then at the end, complete bullshit nonsense.
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All right.
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So that's kind of the path we have.
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It's going to not be pleasant, obviously at the beginning.
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There's a lot of shit that I would, honestly, everything being equal, I would prefer not
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to talk about, but it's thrust into our laps.
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So we must.
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Here we are.
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But there is that dessert of complete bullshit at the end.
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And then I'll watch Clue later.
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Even the force.
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Even the force is fairly amusing on some level.
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But before we get down to business on this episode, Jordan, let's say hello to some wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, the Jug-a-lobalist.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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How the fuck did it take this long?
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I don't know.
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That's solid.
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Yep.
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Good work.
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Next, filthy flying monkey who evolved out of a witch's butt.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Amanda.
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Hey, your husband wants to remind you that it's the Infowars sign.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, I named my pet snail Hot Dan the mustard man.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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That's probably good because I imagine snails have about the lifespan of the year of the
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mustard.
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Yeah.
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Next, I've been a policy wonk for over a year and now it feels awkward to ask for a shout
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out.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, oh, we got a technocrat.
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We're already there.
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Oh, boy.
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So thank you so much to Drunken Reel-yay.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little kitty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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I think that is a, I think that's actually a video game reference.
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I think that's like Ry-la or maybe it's a Dungeons and Dragons reference.
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Is it?
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Yeah.
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I thought it was the Cthulhu.
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Oh, is it?
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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In the city in Reel-yay, he lies sleeping.
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Oh, shit.
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I thought they, I couldn't remember the, I thought that was a different preamble to the
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email with that one.
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It might be, it might be that the, that one is so close.
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Yeah.
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It sounds right though.
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Nope.
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It's, it is the Reel-yay.
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It is a sunken city in the South Pacific and the prison of the entity Cthulhu.
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Ah.
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So yeah.
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Yep.
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But all that Lovecraftian stuff is so like inspired of all the Dungeons and Dragons shit
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and all this fucking nonsense that you nerds like.
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Don't ask me.
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Don't ask me.
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I didn't do anything.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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Yeah.
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But also we don't think about that enough.
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Like how, you know, Cthulhu lies sleeping.
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Maybe he got drunk, you know, maybe he's a, maybe he passed out drunk.
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I mean, I, I think that one of the problems that he left out, he left out that El Kabong
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is the reason that Cthulhu sleeps for so long.
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Mm.
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El Kabong is the only thing that can counter the terror of the Elder Gods and the great
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old ones.
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Absolutely.
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Because the mind is clear, you know, he can't be, he can't be affected by Cthulhu's mind
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powers.
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He is El Kabong.
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He has one goal in life.
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His purity of thought and of mind made animating.
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Made guitar based animating, yeah, I'm sure.
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Okay.
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So whatever.
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Stop wasting time.
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Okay.
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Okay, fine.
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Obviously there was the explosion at the hospital in Gaza, which is the chief focus of the beginning
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of this.
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Great.
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Um, and Alex, his coverage of it is surprisingly bad and that's not to say that it's surprising
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that it is bad.
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No, it's bad in a surprising way.
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Yep.
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Gotcha.
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I call it like I see it and I don't like agreeing with Biden because he lies almost all the
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time, but I agree with him that I don't think Israel bombed that hospital in Gaza strip.
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In fact, the hospital was not bombed, but we've seen riots and protests around the world
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on the lie that it was hit by an Israeli missile or bomb.
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And it turns out that the parking lot was hit by a missile.
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And we have all this footage from independent news stations showing Hamas firing a bunch
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of missiles from a graveyard a couple hundred yards away.
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And one of the missiles fails and falls on the parking lot.
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And it's confirmed that the hospital was not hit.
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Some of the windows got blown out.
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So a giant lie, but remember the mainstream media all picked it up and went with it before
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the fires were even out.
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Here's a fun exercise.
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Imagine if someone blew up a bomb in the parking lot of info wars.
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You think Alex would say, ah, it's just the parking lot.
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It's the parking lot.
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I think he probably wouldn't.
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Well, I mean, he's going to have a struggle parking, but beyond that, he's fine.
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As of the recording of this episode, I don't know exactly what happened as it relates to
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the explosion at the Ali Baptist hospital and neither does Alex.
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He's pretending that he's seen all this evidence, visually seeing an errant rocket being launched
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from this graveyard near the hospital, but he absolutely has not.
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He's heard that claim being made and he's repeating it because it fits his preferred
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storyline.
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If there were actually publicly available video that demonstrated this fully, it would
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be a lot less of an open question as to what really happened.
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In the very volatile information climate that Elon Musk has made worse since taking over
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Twitter, it's almost impossible to vet truth from fiction and tons of fake video purporting
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to be the rockets being launched have been circulating and traveling widely before they're
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debunked, by which point the damage is already done and confusion spreads like wildfire.
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To make matters worse, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, Michael Herzog, posted
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and then deleted a post on Twitter containing a video purporting to be of the rockets being
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launched.
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It was deleted after Eric Toler of the New York Times pointed out that there were issues
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with the timestamp of the footage and it didn't match up with when the explosion would have
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occurred.
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That's not good.
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None of this is to say that it's definite that Israeli did it or if it was the fault
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of a group like Hamas.
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The popular group to point the finger at, from what I'm reading, is Islamic Jihad, who
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have said that they didn't do it.
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Terrorist groups generally like to take responsibility for their terrorist acts, but when it's killing
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tons of people at a hospital, that's not really going to be their play, so I don't know what
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to make of any statements that anybody is making.
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The bottom line is that over 400 people were killed, and it's a profound human tragedy
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regardless of what the circumstances are.
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I do not know exactly who's responsible for this particular incident, but we do know that
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Israel has been constantly bombing civilian areas in Gaza, even areas that they claimed
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would be safe if Palestinians fled to them.
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The death toll is hard to gauge at this point, what with the chaos, but it'll undoubtedly
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be in the thousands.
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Between the bombs and the people starving with no food or water, trapped in a war zone,
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the picture is very bleak for civilians in this circumstance.
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To the extent that the explosion happened in a parking lot, it was a courtyard of the
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hospital where there were parking spaces.
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An explosion around a bunch of cars isn't necessarily a lesser worry, since those things
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have explosive gas in them.
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Also, it's important to understand that people in Gaza are displaced, and many are seeking
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shelter wherever they can find places that appear to be safe.
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The dean of St. George's College in Jerusalem told the BBC that there were 1,000 people
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sheltering in the courtyard when the explosions happened.
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Pointing to limited structural damage to the buildings and the limited number of pictures
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Alex has seen on social media means nothing in terms of the scale of this human tragedy,
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and he's playing fucking games, and it is unacceptable.
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Yeah.
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But what do you expect?
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It didn't happen!
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It was a parking lot!
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I don't know.
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Man.
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Surprising.
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I, I, I, I was expecting, I was expecting false flag, I was expecting, you know, and
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I mean I get false flag kind of.
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Well, sort of get there.
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Well, I kind of get there.
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But I really wasn't expecting just like, eh, it was a fucking parking lot, who cares.
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That I was not expecting.
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He's later going to say that the deaths are fake too.
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Okay, well there we go.
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Yeah.
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That I expected.
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It's real bad.
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That I expected.
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Yeah.
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So, he also doesn't like the idea that there are protests that are happening.
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Sure.
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So here's that.
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The White House got surrounded, the barriers got down, got knocked down, police got attacked,
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but it's not being called the greatest attacks in Pearl Harbor like they called January 6th.
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Huge demonstrations in Dallas, Texas, huge demonstrations in Greece, riots in Greece,
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riots across Europe, all sorts of shootings and stabbings that get buried in the news.
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Huge numbers of people, in some cases millions, hit in the streets in different Arab countries
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and also in Persia, Iran, instantly attacking the Israeli embassies around the world.
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And again, I'm calling it like I see it.
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People stood down 110%, seven hours before any response, attack helicopters by the hundreds
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were five to 10 minutes away.
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Five attack helicopters, and I've talked to military experts, they concluded that my novice
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assumption was correct, that five loaded helicopters had taken out those Hezbollah fighters, Hamas
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Hezbollah backed fighters.
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So I'm calling it like I see it, Charlie Kirk did that too, a lot of people have, they're
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calling him anti-Semitic.
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I'm just going to report what we believe is most accurate.
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It's clear Israel did not bomb that hospital, it's clear that Israel stood down and let
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the attack happen.
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So Alex is saying I call it like I see it a lot on this episode, like it's his new get
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her done.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Very upsetting.
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But I don't think he does either.
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No.
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I don't think he does.
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I think he does somewhat in as much as like, if you translate it to I don't prepare, you
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know, I call it like I see it, I shoot from the hip, I just say whatever's on the tip
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of my mind, then it's kind of accurate.
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Maybe.
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There were protests at the White House, but they didn't storm the Capitol and no one shit
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on Jim Jordan's desk or whoever's going to end up being speaker.
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Alex can calm down with this shit because this is the game that he's playing.
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On the one hand, he wants to minimize the actions of him and his extremist buddies because
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he knows that if we as a society take what they did and what they stand for seriously,
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they will be in jail very quickly.
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But the second thing he wants to do is paint any protest carried out by groups he doesn't
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like as some kind of terror.
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That's why groups of supporters of Palestinians are compared to January 6th for just protesting
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here in the United States.
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Now granted, any attacks on Israeli embassies, they would not categorize in the same batch.
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There was somebody who was stabbed at the Chinese embassy, the Israeli embassy in China,
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and so that's not the same thing.
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But people gathering and protesting for Palestinian rights, Alex would call that in and of itself
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terror.
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Yeah, I wouldn't do that.
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I would recommend people don't do that.
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It's a bad idea.
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One, believe me, people have protested in the past, hasn't done it for Palestine up
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to this point.
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So you're just getting yourself a giant target on your back.
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Terrible idea.
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So Alex, he needs to get the heat off himself and his buddies and also paint all alternative
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protest as terrorism.
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So like that with Palestinians.
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That's why he also calls Black Lives Matter protests riots constantly.
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If you're on the opposite side of Alex, you don't have free speech and protest rights
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in his eyes, but he knows that he can't say it that way without abandoning his branding
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about loving the constitution.
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So this is the way that he gets around that.
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There are some questions about the timeline of Israeli military response to various areas
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where citizens were under threat, but nothing that I've seen so far has convinced me of
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an actual stand-down happening.
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What's key to understand is that this is Alex's new way of saying false flag.
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He's learned since Sandy Hook that if he goes on the full-on hoax manufactured event angle,
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he ends up getting himself in trouble.
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There's too many implications that comes from those narratives that he doesn't want to deal
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with, which is why the stand-down accusation is perfect.
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You see him do this in situations where he previously would have had a lot more elaborate
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crisis actors or hoax-type narratives, like in the case of Parkland and the Uvalde shootings.
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Another reason this accusation works perfectly for Alex is that sometimes responses don't
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go as smoothly as people think they should because of logistical issues and human error.
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Alex's storyline gives a nicely bundled explanation for all of that, which allows the audience
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to maintain their illusions about the infallibility of the system.
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This response only went bad because the globalists demanded it go bad, is a painfully childish
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way to engage with complicated systems.
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As it relates to the events of October 7th, Israel hasn't spoken on the matter, but there
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are a bunch of factors that could explain some of the delayed response.
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To be fair, there was an immediate response, a fairly immediate response, but there were
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areas that didn't get cleared for hours after, and that's what Alex is trying to use to his
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advantage.
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One issue is that it was a national holiday in Israel, so there's a chance that manpower
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or response time could have been hindered by that.
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In addition, Hamas sent drones to disrupt Israeli military's communication channels,
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so there's a possibility that created a period where word was not able to be sent in an efficient
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manner.
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There's also the factor of underestimating the threat from Hamas and shifting their manpower
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to the West Bank.
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A retired Israeli major general told the New York Times, quote, the thinning of forces
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seemed reasonable because of the construction of the fence and the aura created around it,
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as if it were invincible, that nothing would be able to pass it.
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Another operational failure that the Times discusses is the, quote, clustering of leaders
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from the army's Gaza division in a single location along the border.
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Hamas was able to overtake this base, and then the ability to create a coordinated response
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to what was unfolding was severely impaired.
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The people tasked with being ready to make a counterattack had been killed, injured,
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or taken hostage, and the Israeli military officials who were coming in to take over
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were coming in from other places and they weren't as prepared as they would have wanted
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to be.
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Things were posted on social media that depicted a major event immediately, but this was not
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at all well communicated through military channels because of the factors mentioned.
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So while it is true that there may have been air power stationed mere minutes of flight
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away, the people who would have been able to utilize that correctly were incapacitated,
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and the communications needed to convey the gravity of the situation were not at their
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full power.
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The extent to which each of these factors played a role in the intelligence and response
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failure is a matter for study, and I'm sure we'll learn more about that in the coming
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months.
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However, for Alex, all of this is really fucking simple.
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It was a stand down, and it needs to be, for him to avoid the complexity of reality and
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keep his audience in their infantile fear bubble that he profits off of.
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It's just ridiculous.
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It's a disrespect to, you know, just the complexities of life, honestly.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, man, this is, this is off to a great start.
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I told you there's a farce coming.
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I'm doing great.
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This is going good.
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We're handling it.
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Well, I think, I mean, I texted you about like, ah, this is not great, you know, and
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stuff.
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And part of the reason is a lot of this stuff is not really even becoming of a response.
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Yeah.
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I think that Alex saying 110% the Israelis, the Israeli government had to stand down.
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Fuck you, man.
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Yeah.
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Like, what do you, you can't, you can't prove any of this.
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You can, you can be like, it must have been, and that's your argument, great, nothing.
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And then there was a bombing in a parking lot instead of a hospital, like that's just
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disrespectful and awful.
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Just, yeah, I can understand why it's just not good so far for you.
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Yeah.
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I think, I think one of the specific problems here is that unlike with, I mean, most, most,
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most wars, I suppose, as it's such a contained area and it's all controlled by one point
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of view, you know, it is, it is the Israeli ability.
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It is that like complete, complete power imbalance of, of like, you don't know what's going on
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inside there and we can't, and we cannot because they won't allow independent voices or independent
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eyes in there.
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And it's only made worse by the systems of social media that we've relied on for the
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quick dissemination of information being completely rotten.
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Yeah, this is, this is one of the, I mean, maybe actually I would say this is the first
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time that I truly do not believe anyone.
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I, you know, I definitely don't know what I don't know.
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Exactly.
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And I, I, I'm not saying I necessarily don't believe anyone, but it's very hard to feel
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confident about a lot of information that's, that's available.
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And not because I believe people are lying to me.
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Some people are lying to me, of course, maliciously.
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And I believe some people are just doing the, telling what they know in the moment, which
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is not going to be correct, which is fine.
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That's happened.
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That happens.
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And there's some people with benign misunderstandings or misinterpretations that have the same effect
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as malicious lying.
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And because Israel can completely control, not the narrative coming from there, but our
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ability to actually see it, which for the first time since like cameras have existed,
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really, have we been this unable to see at all what's going on in such a major conflict,
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you know?
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I think, I think that some of that is being pushed back on, you know, I do see international
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reports and stuff of people who are embedded there, you know, there, there it's, it's limited
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certainly.
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But it is, there is a view.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's, but it's, it's patchy.
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It's tough.
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Yeah.
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The asymmetric nature of this is so fucking crazy.
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It's, it's tough to, it's tough to wrestle with.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So here, here's something a little off topic.
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That's a little lighter.
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Okay.
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Now let's expand on why I said the Harvard mafia, talk about who runs the world, black
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rock, the Chi comms, the, all the different organizations and groups, Rothchilds, when
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you pull back and you go look at Harvard, it it's the big leagues and it's people that
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are put through the process of the political science department and the legal department,
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other systems of Harvard that make it up.
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And that's why the Chinese dictator, Gigi ping sends his daughter to Harvard.
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Now that's a secret you're not supposed to know.
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And the word is she's recently been pulled out of Harvard and sent back to China.
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What's that tell you?
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Cause the same people that run Harvard help set up China and Mao Zedong and the rest of
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it.
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Help set up China.
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By the way, it's not full stop.
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His daughter under another name goes to Harvard.
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I got that from high level feds and I later confirmed it with some other feds that I was
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recently talking to on my little secret mission that will not be revealed for a few weeks.
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Go fuck yourself.
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So Alex didn't get this information from high level feds.
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Steve Pachanik told him about it.
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I remember that happening on air.
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Alex is so full of shit.
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There have been so many articles about Xi's daughter going to Harvard.
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It's not a secret at all.
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Ooh.
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But what about this news that she was pulled out of classes recently?
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I'm interested.
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Ooh.
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Would it surprise Alex to learn that you graduated from Harvard in 2014 almost a decade ago?
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Surprise me to learn that a great deal.
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I am very surprised, sir.
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Almost a decade.
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Wait.
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Does he have a different daughter?
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No.
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Does he have an even more secret?
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He has one daughter.
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Even more in Harvard under a different name daughter.
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No.
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Alex's bullshit charade that he pulls, it really only works if you imagine that he has
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access to some kind of information that you don't, which is why he makes up all these
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high level sources and lies about the wildly discredited people that he has on the show
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to inflate their status.
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That's why he claims to have gotten so much information from prophetic dreams and downloads
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from God.
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You can't know what he knows if it's coming from a divine source, so you have to just
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take his word for it.
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Yeah.
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If it's coming from these high level feds, you don't have access to those high level
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feds.
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I don't.
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You gotta listen to Alex.
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He's the one who's telling you this deep information, like that she's daughter is being pulled out
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of classes 10 years after she graduated.
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That's so funny.
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That's so, so funny.
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It's ridiculous.
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That's very funny that she's being pulled out of class.
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I just heard she's pulled out of classes.
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It's about as funny as it gets for somebody who's...
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Way to be interesting, Alex.
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Way to be interesting.
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That is the version of that heist movie thing where the guy's like, hey, you worked with
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Fred Johnson, did you?
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And you're like, nope, Fred Johnson's dead, so six months, you know, like that old thing.
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But instead he's like, hell yeah, I love Fred Johnson.
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The guy's like, ha ha, I caught you, he's been dead.
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Fred Johnson's still alive.
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Secretly.
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I am Fred Johnson.
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His death was a stand down.
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Exactly.
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It's all a false flag.
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Fine, whatever, man.
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So this is the only real card that Alex can play to impress the audience, this illusion
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that he knows stuff that they don't or can't.
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It's a complete fraud and his secret mission is just another vacation.
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Maybe he called Pachanic while he was on his trip, but you can bet that vacation will never
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materialize into anything meaningful.
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Just like his trip to find Zuckerberg's underground bases conveniently located very near a luxury
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spa.
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Yeah, that does help.
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That does help whenever those things are conveniently located next to each other.
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Fucking prick.
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Anyway, we get to some petty political drama here, because we are in the middle.
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We're a little bit further along as we're recording this, but at this point we're in
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the middle of the speakership votes, and so Jim Jordan is about to have his second vote
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to see.
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Good dude.
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Yeah.
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Good dude.
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Great.
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It appears on the final words coming in in the next few minutes that Jim Jordan's second
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round of trying to be elected House Speaker has failed.
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They're telling the final votes, but it looks like he does not have it.
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C-Span's reporting he does not have it.
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People say, well, why do we do this?
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Why do we unseat Kevin McCarthy?
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Because we're not rolling over anymore and we're fighting back.
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We're taking control of this country.
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And if the Democrats install somebody now, because they can help Republican Blue Bloods,
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then we'll know who the bad guys are.
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We're unmasking them.
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Let's go to the live feed from the House of Representatives deep in the swamp.
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So it's really funny because, you know, they go alphabetically through people's votes.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is like hanging on these votes and it's people in like the L's.
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Yeah.
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A long way to go, buddy.
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We're already past that.
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But enough people have voted for other people that Jim Jordan mathematically can't win.
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Right.
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Right.
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So that's why people are saying that he'd already lost.
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But Alex is acting like these votes coming in are meeting something.
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Oh my God.
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Amazing.
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Jim Jordan's a monster unfit to lead in any capacity, even the capacity that he is in
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currently.
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That being said, the Democrats are never going to help another GOP candidate win the speakership.
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The fringe idiots on the Republican side made their bed and it's incredibly powerful for
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the Democrats to now let them lie in it.
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The GOP has the majority and if they can agree to work together, they can easily elect a
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speaker.
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Because their party is being held hostage by a small number of lunatics like Matt Gaetz,
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the only people who are in consideration for the speakership role are people who would
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pass the lunatic test.
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And there are some GOP members who won't stand for that, at least enough to block the election.
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They're never going to get past that.
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Yeah.
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This is a distraction and it does get in the way of the job of governing, but this is a
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smaller hit for the Dems than it is for the GOP.
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Their effort to pass legislation would be hurt by the GOP majority to begin with, so
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the opportunity cost for them is a lot smaller to let this play out.
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Sure.
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Conversely, the GOP is wasting time where they could actually get things done, but they
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can't even look past their petty squabbles to elect a leader.
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Representative Mark Amadei told The Hill that, quote, there ain't 217 votes for Jesus, Mary,
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and Joseph in there, which is a great sign that this is not going to get sorted out any
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time soon.
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I believe that.
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Yeah.
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You can't get 217 votes for anything.
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You cannot get 217 of these idiots to agree on anything.
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They simply cannot do it.
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They managed to pull it off with McCarthy and then they completely fucked it up.
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Love it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the only problem, of course, is that they're still allowed to draw a paycheck and
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have health insurance and all that stuff.
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That should stop.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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As I'm preparing this episode today, Jordan has said that he's not looking to a third
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vote and has accepted that he isn't going to win.
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Because he sees where the cards have fallen, he's withdrawn himself from consideration
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and is backing the idea of expanding the powers of Speaker Pro Tem Patrick McHenry, who took
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over temporarily when McCarthy got the boot.
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This, however, is causing real problems in the GOP, and many representatives have already
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indicated they are staunchly opposed to the move, at least enough that this is not going
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to pass.
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Obviously, the Dems aren't going to back it, so if, like, five members of the GOP vote
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against it, there's no majority there.
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So it looks like they're in for a long grind, trying to find somebody that they can nominate
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who will appease both the more moderate side and the fringe extremist side of the House
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Republican body.
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They should have kept McCarthy and just continued posturing like they were about to remove him.
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That way, they don't end up in an embarrassing situation like this, and they can still get
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their base all riled up about how they're about to stick it to the man.
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You don't want the buyer's remorse of buying the car and leaving the parking lot.
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That's where they are now.
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I don't know.
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Does anybody care?
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I think some people care.
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I don't think so.
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I mean, I genuinely don't think it matters, whether they do or do not do anything.
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I don't think it matters as far as elections are concerned for them, not least of which
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because one, nobody's going to vote D if they're...
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That's not happening.
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There are people who are in districts that could be a bit more contested than you imagine.
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Sure, sure.
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But the other problem-
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It's something that is quite easy to attack in the campaign match.
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Is the extreme gerrymandering of almost all of these congressional districts.
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Hey, buddy, that is not true.
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That is a factor.
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So there is a part of me that says the smartest thing these people can do is act like they're
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even doing something, and this is the best thing to do because it's not even something.
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Well, I think it's a drama that doesn't really play into the GOP's advantage, unless people
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like Matt Gaetz were planning to fracture the party and split.
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I mean, they don't want elections period.
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That's true.
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Why would they care if they're ruining their electability?
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Yeah, that's true.
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I guess-
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The idea is no more elections.
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I guess you do have a point in as much as there are a lot of districts that are very
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gerrymandered.
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Yeah.
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But it is also overly simplistic to say that everybody is safe because of that, because
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otherwise there would be no real incumbency.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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I'm not talking about the individuals.
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I'm not saying everybody's safe.
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There's also quite a possibility of being primaried.
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Like these extreme folks could easily face a very well-funded primary challenge from
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the larger block of the more institutional establishment rhinos, as Alex might call them.
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And that is a pretty real threat.
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Sure.
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Tub, I mean, all of us.
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Sure.
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Well, I mean, the stakes are there.
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You know?
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Like, yeah, I'm not going to disagree with that.
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There's no good outcome here.
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Speaking of not good outcomes.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you have to get back to Alex talking geopolitics.
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Oh, God damn it.
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And here's where he just denies that people died at the hospital.
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Oh, OK.
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Great.
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And as you see there, the hospital's there.
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It's got windows blown out.
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But the cars were hit.
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And that's what happened.
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You can see the little missile strike point, even though the missile came in sideways there
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on the ground.
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Now, now, that's a fact.
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But where's the corporate media running its reports that it was a parking lot?
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Where are the 500 dead?
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Well, there are a bunch of dead people.
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And there's thousands dead.
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It's terrible.
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There are a lot of children dead.
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But not there.
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It's not true.
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Cut and dry corporate media running with what Hamas, that means Hezbollah and the mullahs
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said.
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And if you turn on our news right now, they're still saying that Israel blew up this hospital.
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It's not true.
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What a piece of shit.
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So I understand wanting to spread misinformation for profit.
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And I know that the world situation here is a bonanza for him.
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But there's no reason to act like this.
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There's no reason to deny the deaths of 400-ish individuals who were at that hospital.
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This is just monstrous behavior.
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Yeah, I don't even get it.
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At very least, there is independent verification of between 150 to 200 people who were killed
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and taken to the nearby Shifa hospital, as told to The New York Times by the head of
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that hospital.
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There were also approximately 300 wounded who were brought there, but no indication
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of the severity of those injuries or if any of them passed away subsequently.
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There may be some fine tuning that needs to be done in terms of the exact number of casualties
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versus the estimation, but what Alex is doing is inhuman.
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And it's such a disrespect to everything.
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Yeah.
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Further, if anything, the media is not saying that Israel bombed that hospital.
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I've seen a fair amount of coverage that says that nothing is definitive, like that there
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is some gray area in terms of being able to sort this out, but that the U.S. and Israeli
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intelligence sources were confident that Israel isn't to blame.
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If anything, I feel like the coverage is pretty... When you take people who are seen as credible
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sources of information, like the U.S. intelligence agencies and the Israeli intelligence, credible
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sources of information to the media, to the press, they are saying that Israel didn't
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do it.
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That's the opposite of what Alex is saying.
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Yeah.
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It is very strange.
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Yeah.
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He's making all this stuff up that the media is saying that because it works for his purposes
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better.
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Yeah.
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It's very weird.
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I find this whole thing really fucked up, not least of which just because it is a thing
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for us to discuss and really focus on because there's big explosions and whatnot, but the
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truth is I am infinitely more concerned about the fact that people are going to die of thirst.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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That's a real issue.
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Frankly, I'd rather go one way than to other.
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For me, this is a type of conversation that allows people to get into this, like, oh,
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it's a war.
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You know, like, oh, was it this side, the side with rockets, or was it this side, the
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side with bombs?
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It's an event as opposed to a process, and that can grasp attention a lot more easily.
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Right.
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I mean, what we are looking at is, I mean, they don't need to fire any bombs.
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They don't need to fire any rockets.
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Israel just needs to stand at the fence and say nobody gets water, and that's what they
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can do.
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They can do that.
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That's a thing they can do.
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Sure.
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So, I mean, it is weird that they're even firing rockets at all.
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Well, I understand your position on this, and that is fair.
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I don't know.
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It's just weird for me, because it is also kind of a moment where we see the media becoming
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Alex 2.
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You know, there's that space of, wow, you can't believe anybody, really.
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You can't, I, normally, when you see US intelligence sources say, you can at least get the idea
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of like, I hope they're telling the truth.
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But this is a situation where it's like, I understand that US intelligence sources say
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that they didn't fire it, and I don't know if I can believe them, and I don't.
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You know?
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Sure.
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But more importantly is, they're going to die of thirst, you know?
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I get what you're saying.
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There are different order problems.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I agree that there's, you know, this, and then there's this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And maybe, I don't know.
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It's so tough.
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Yeah, it's a mess, because, you know, you get into an argument of what is more important,
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and I don't know if those are decisions that you and I can really credibly speak on, so
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it just, it's all tragic.
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Everything is tragic, and Alex's behavior is condemnable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's no win.
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There's no winner.
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And he thinks he's just going with the truth.
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Oh, boy.
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Oh, God.
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See how easy it is when you just go with the truth?
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Israel stood down, it stinks like a dead fish, whatever's going on.
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Biden gave six billion five weeks ago to Iran, they gave it to Hamas, they admit they gave
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it to him, Hamas admits they were directed by Iran, and now Biden is about to let all
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the rest of the sanctions expire on Iran.
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What is going on?
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This isn't telling the truth, it's adhering to a narrative.
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It does make Alex's job a lot easier when he cherry-picks pieces of information that
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are convenient for him, then compiles them into a neat narrative package for the audience.
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Dealing with the complexities of life is insanely difficult, and Alex is not up to the task.
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He hasn't shown in any way that Israel had to stand down, he hasn't shown in any way
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that Biden unfreezing Iranian funds had any impact on the attack on the seventh.
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Further, Iran hasn't admitted that they gave those funds to Hamas, or else the funds would
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have been refrozen.
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That account is regulated by the US Treasury, so saying we gave it to a terrorist group,
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that wouldn't fly.
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But it's really helpful for Alex's narrative to not introduce complexity into this.
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So he lies to the audience that this is all proven and all admitted.
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In some ways, this actually does reflect Alex telling the truth, which is to say that he's
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telling a deeper truth, and that is that he doesn't give a shit about the truth.
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The truth is what's expedient for him, what makes his job easier, and what makes him money.
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It's so much easier for him when he just follows that path, because it's designed to be easy.
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It has nothing to do with reality-based versions of truth, though.
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It's just, you know, it's so easy when you go with the truth that you don't give a fuck
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about the truth.
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Yes, okay.
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Yeah, I mean, there is a certain level of if you were a self-aware snowball at the top
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of a hill, you'd be like, well listen, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this fucking hill,
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and I would hope you're not in my way, because I have no interest in doing it the right way,
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you know?
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There's something to be said for that.
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I will get out of your way.
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The problem is you keep getting bigger.
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That is the issue.
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So I'm gonna skip this next clip, because really it's just him repeating that, you know,
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denying the deaths of the people at the hospital.
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And I mean, I think that there could be value in playing it repeatedly, because he says
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it repeatedly, but I feel like I can just tell you he's very invested in that, for reasons
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that are not entirely clear.
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He very much wants to push that this is all fake, basically, that it was just a parking
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lot and, you know, there weren't deaths.
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I don't know if he would amend that to be like, I don't know, maybe someone was in one
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of the cars and died or something like that, but in terms of the reality that, you know,
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people have said that there were a bunch of people who were seeking shelter in that courtyard,
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he is not talking about that.
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And like, I can't stress enough, like that reporting that he's doing repeatedly through
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this show is something that requires and it demands correction.
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It demands retraction.
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And the reason he won't do that is because it reveals how stupid he is.
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If he were to retract, like, oh, I didn't realize that there were people who were seeking
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shelter at the hospital in the courtyard, it reveals how easy it is for him to jump
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on a storyline that he wants to be the case and report it so passionately and as if he's
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researched this and everybody who disagrees is stupid.
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If he were to retract, he'd just look like a fucking idiot.
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Yeah, you can't open that.
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Once you retract one thing, then now you start measuring other stories against whether or
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not, oh, is it as bad as this time that I said there wasn't anybody who died in this
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hospital parking lot?
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I guess I won't have to retract.
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Yeah, it's never going to be good.
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Of course not.
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So instead, all you do is let this still be part of your canon.
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Just keep on going.
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Just roll that snowball down the hill.
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So we're going to move along here then.
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We've gotten through what I would describe as the terrible portion.
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Cool.
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Now we're into farce.
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Not quite.
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Oh, there's a little bit.
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Damn it.
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There's a little bit of news.
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And then we'll get into farce.
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The Wes Anderson title card, second act farce has not yet come up.
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No.
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Gotcha.
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So here is a little bit of news.
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Head of the FBI over the weekend at a law enforcement summit in California, in San Diego,
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said, oh, yes, there's a rising threat of a terror because of this.
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Didn't even say Islamic.
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They said, but the real thing is the right wingers.
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Yeah, right.
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Because that's who's being targeted is loyal, smart, informed, good Americans who are loyal
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to the Republic and who don't want to be an Islamic enclave.
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But let's show the footage from Dallas.
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So it seems mysterious that Alex is just ignoring that story about the guy here in Illinois
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who stabbed a six year old boy to death because he was a Palestinian and had been convinced
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by right wing radio that Muslims needed to die.
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It's very strange.
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That story isn't in his bullshit stack of paper.
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Even weirder that he doesn't want to talk about Nathan Fettman, a dude who is now on
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trial for four counts of first degree murder after killing a Muslim family in Ontario a
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few years back.
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I'll just read this from a Vice article that just came out about his trial.
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Quote, I consumed libertarian content, mainstream conservative content.
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Then I slowly started looking at some alt-right content on YouTube and then stumbled across
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some of the more fringe.
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He said that he consumed conspiratorial content like Alex Jones's Infowars, where he found
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quote, conspiracies that Middle Eastern wars were a conspiracy to try to bring Muslim immigration
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into Europe.
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This then led him to white nationalist content.
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If I were Alex, I'd definitely avoid this stuff too.
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It's hard to maintain plausible deniability when your audience keeps killing the people
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you were saying are incompatible with the West.
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So the FBI director Christopher Wray made an address at the International Association
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of Police Conference in San Diego.
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He didn't say the things Alex is saying.
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His speech is really easily available for anyone to watch and find the transcript.
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But Alex's audience, he knows they won't do that.
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So he's free to lie however he wants.
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I honestly think that this line is what Alex is talking about.
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Quote, whether that be from foreign terrorist organizations or those inspired by them or
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domestic violent extremists motivated by their own racial animus, the targeting of community
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because of their faith is totally unacceptable.
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You can see how Alex would take issue with that.
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Like, most of his favorite people are domestically violent extremists motivated by their own
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racial animus.
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I mean, the thing about something like that is that the easiest thing in the world is
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to listen to that statement and not shout, he's talking about me.
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Right.
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It's so easy to do that.
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Wait, is he talking about loyal Americans?
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I'm just sitting here going, I mean, even if you are, you can just be like, great speech,
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dude.
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You don't have to say, you don't have to be like, hey, I-
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I- how dare you say that about white nationalists?
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What?
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Why did you bring that up?
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Well, because I am- oh, shit.
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You ready for some farce?
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Let's do it.
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Okay, here we go.
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We have a special guest joining us, a comedian who's also politically interesting and informative.
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Don't do this.
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Owen Benjamin next hour.
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God damn it.
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Wow.
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This is unacceptable.
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Oh, God.
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Having Owen Benjamin on this show is certainly a choice.
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Not only did Alex and Owen have a nasty falling out a few years ago because Owen was being
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such an overt Nazi that Alex had no choice but to cut ties.
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And then Owen spent a bunch of time airing out Alex's dirty laundry talking about how
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much he hates Alex and how Alex is a fat idiot who's a shill for the Jews.
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Not only that, that history is enough.
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That's there.
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Yeah.
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And now I guess they're coming back together.
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And I think I have a theory about why.
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When it turned out that no one liked Owen and all the Rogan squad turned on him, he
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went running to Infowars and Alex.
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And then when he went a little too far down the Nazi hole, Alex turned on him and he was
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left with nowhere else to really go.
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Literally no one wanted anybody who had any level of clout or media exposure, they weren't
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interested in him because he was a toxic bigot.
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And he also was not funny.
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He's a standup comedian who's not funny.
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I mean, I'm offended by both of those things and I don't want to say which one offends
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me more.
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And so he did what other aspiring right wing extremists have done in the past.
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He packed up and he went to Idaho, where he set up a compound he called Ursa Rio.
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I guess it's Bear River or something like that, which makes some sense because Owen's
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obsessed with bears.
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He has his audience call him Big Bear.
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It's nonsense.
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Sure.
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Whatever.
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Anyway, after he went to Idaho, Owen would set up his webcam, often at his fire pit and
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livestream himself drinking to excess and rambling about all sorts of topics, but frequently
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about how much he hates the Jews.
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Over time, he accumulated a sizable Nazi-esque following and he'd found his own niche,
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picking up viewers who like the folks that he used to hang out with, but they were mad
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that they didn't talk about the Jews enough.
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So you got this Owen guy to pivot towards.
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Here's my problem, right?
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Here's my...
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Okay.
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This isn't my only problem.
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This is a problem for me because I kind of...
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You can't test this.
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You can't test this hypothesis in the real world.
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But I wonder, if I were to follow these same steps, could I get anti-Semites to follow
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me faster than Owen could?
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You know what I'm saying?
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Probably not.
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Would I be better at being an...
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No, probably not because you didn't date Christina Ricci and you weren't in a couple Sandler
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movies.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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I didn't.
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That's true.
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So he had a higher place to fall from.
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That is true.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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I think that's what makes his Nazism interesting to people.
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So he did this.
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He went out there and he started his fucking drunk live streams up by the fire.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And gradually this turned into a cult fantasy.
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Owen pitched Ursa Rio as a safe haven for people like himself and his audience.
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There would be cabins people could come live in and stay in, but more importantly, there
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would be a stage so Owen could do standup to the only audience that might actually want
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to see him.
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Oh my God.
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They'd have a festival.
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Yeah.
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Owen raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from his fans because they believed in the
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mission of this fringe extremist compound, but it wasn't to be.
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Late last year, Owen got in some trouble with the zoning people over construction he wanted
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to do at the property and he declared himself free from zoning laws.
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I was about to say that's exactly what I would do.
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Yeah.
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It turns out that doesn't work.
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And eventually Owen had to give up on his plans to expand Ursa Rio, which you can probably
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imagine pissed off a lot of his audience who paid good money for him to create the next
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Ruby Ridge.
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This has led to a significant portion of Owen's audience seeing through his entire scam and
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realizing that he was using the audience to try and build and buy and improve his land.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To make matters worse, Owen still wants to do standup even though he sucks at it and
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no one wants to book his Nazi ass.
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Because of this tension, he's had to self-produce some standup specials and from everything
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I can tell, things are falling apart massively for him.
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His subreddit is full of people who appear to be ex-fans who now hate him and it seems
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like Owen is in a particularly nasty feud with Adam Camacho, the filmmaker who was making
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a documentary about his bear compound, as well as Owen's latest special, Noble Savage,
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which was filmed in a tent in the middle of Missouri somewhere and was just released a
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week ago or so, around a week ago, to very disappointing results.
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Oh, yeah.
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I spent a while trying to get the bottom of all this, but all I can tell is that Owen
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sunk quite a bit of money into the special and they tried to post it, but the payment
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processor he tried to use didn't want to work with him, so he was able to, he wasn't able
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to monetize it and everyone was supposed to get refunds.
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It's a big old mess.
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Oh boy.
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There may also be some rights issues because the raw footage appears to be owned by a third
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party company.
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It's all such a fucking mess, which is not uncommon with Owen Benjamin.
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Say what you like about him, but he's the world's messiest drunk fire pit Nazi live
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streamer.
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Messy.
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The, the live, the footage of his special.
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Owned a tent in the middle of Missouri in a field.
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And he somehow still doesn't own it.
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I think so.
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That's why I understand this.
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You could use a fucking iPhone and, oh my God, that's amazing.
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No, logistics.
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You need something else.
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Who knows what they're doing.
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That is truly amazing.
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Oh man.
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So now there's another wrinkle here and that is that one section of Owen's audience is
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leaving because they're convinced he's scamming and the letdown of Ursa Rio is too much to
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handle, but there's an entirely other section that believes that he's actually controlled
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opposition.
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All the Nazi shit he's saying isn't sincere according to these folks.
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It's just sugary words meant to lure them in and lead them into the hands of the Jews.
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Oh, your sweet, sweet Nazi lies.
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This is the ultimate fate of pretty much anyone who gets into the very lucrative game of conspiracy
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bullshit.
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It's super easy to play on people's anger, suspicion, and fear, but eventually that will
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get turned on you and Owen is definitely in the find out part of the ride.
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I did a terrible job of summing all this up primarily because there is no clarity to any
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of this and everybody's a liar, but the general picture is super clear.
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Owen is losing his grip on his extreme audience that he's built over the years and he's pretty
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desperate.
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So desperate that he's willing to crawl back to Alex fucking Jones.
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Regardless of how disgusting any of the things these dudes say is or how offensive it is
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to have Owen on at a time like this, the real message I want to stress is how pathetic both
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of these losers are.
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It's just shockingly spineless for these two to get back together and pretend like nothing
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happened.
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Alex canceled Owen.
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He canceled him.
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He canceled him.
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I mean, I just...
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It's one thing if you have a falling out with somebody and then you make amends, usually
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because one side or both had a change of heart about something and maybe changed one of their
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positions.
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Neither of these dudes has changed their positions that led to their falling out.
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Owen is just losing his audience and he needs to try and get the Alex bump that he...
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And so he's willing to just, oh, Alex, you're so funny.
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Oh man.
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I mean, it is so pathetic.
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It is so much like you can imagine it happening over and over and over again though because
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it does.
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It is like Alex gets mad at somebody and then after about a year, he kind of forgets where
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he's at.
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Dude, I don't think Alex is mad at him.
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I think it was a calculated decision of like, I can't have this Nazi fucking drunk on my
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show.
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Right, right, right.
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But the pattern is like after a little bit, he doesn't even remember really.
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And then they could definitely ever, you know, whenever somebody is down, they can email
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somebody and just, they'll be like, oh yeah, Alex would love to have you on.
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Why?
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It's been almost a couple of years.
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What are you doing?
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It's been so long.
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Like, it doesn't even know.
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Yeah.
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I think that there is a cycle in the same way that Steve Pacenik kept burning Alex and
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then he'd have him back.
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And then he'd come back.
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Yeah.
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Come back.
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Yeah.
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Alex isn't good at...
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Or let's be generous.
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He's very forgiving.
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He's a forgiving man.
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Seven times, 77 times.
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That's how much you must forgive your brothers.
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He's forgiven COVID for infecting him multiple times.
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True.
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He still seems to be on COVID's team.
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He's made a lot of peace with that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex begins his introduction by saying some very not true things about Owen.
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Well, a true maverick, very popular comic and talk show host, Owen Benjamin joins us
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to balance the hour, talk about romance, his new comedy special, and so much more.
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And then third hour into fourth hour, your phone calls.
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A couple phone calls.
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That's basically all that's not true, even the phone calls.
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Owen's not a maverick.
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He's just a run of the mill anti-Semite and general bigot.
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There's nothing new about him.
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He's not an in demand comic.
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No one wants to book him anywhere because he sucks at standup and he's a boring bigot.
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He's not even a talk show host.
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He just live streams himself saying idiotic shit while he's drunk near a fireplace at
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his pretend Idaho compound.
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It's ridiculous.
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None of that's true.
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Yeah.
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Oh, he's a talk show host.
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He's one of the people that really reinforces that if you want to be successful, it's good
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to be good at stuff, but it's way more important to find the right social sphere and then they'll
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help you get into that successful.
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If you want to make good stuff, focus on making good things and you probably won't be successful.
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But if you want to be successful, find good friends who will make you that.
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And the ultimate irony is that he had all that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He was in with Sandler.
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He could've just coasted.
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He could've coasted.
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Yeah.
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I mean, fucking Rob, what's his dumb, he's still fine.
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Who?
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You know, the other guy who was friends with Sandler for, you know.
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Schneider?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's not.
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He's not as fine as he could be.
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No, no, no, no.
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He's not doing well.
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We're not gonna get a third, we're not gonna get the final installment of the Deuce Bigelow
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trilogy.
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Maybe not.
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We'll never get closure on that.
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Deuce Bigelow, Interstellar, Gigolo.
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Can you imagine?
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Deuce Bigelow in space.
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But you know what Rob did?
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He coasted long enough that he's gonna be able to run out the clock.
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Yes.
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Owen's got too much time on the clock left.
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah.
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And it's not looking good.
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No.
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You know, he ironically has too much time left on the clock and so little time left
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on the clock.
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That's a good point.
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So, um, here's another not true thing.
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His new comedy special's a hit, Noble, Savage, Owen Benjamin will be joining us to talk world
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events, cancel culture, Donald Trump, Kanye West and more, but here's a few clips from
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his new special.
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I'm gonna spare you that.
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Yeah, thank you.
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So this is a bit much.
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There were massive problems with the release of this special and so Owen released it on
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his own Bitchute channel where he has 38,000 subscribers.
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In the first day and a half, it was viewed a little over 3,000 times and only has 148
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thumbs up.
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Oh, that's so good.
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Those are grim numbers.
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Oh, those are grim numbers.
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He also has an Odyssey channel, which I only know because...
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I've never heard of that before, so now I know.
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O-D-Y-S-E-E.
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I only know of it because that's where Project Camelot episodes were available.
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Oh, I gotcha.
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Okay.
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He has 13,000 followers there and his special has been viewed 1,100 times.
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Oh, that's rough.
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Yeah.
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He was selling it, but he had to refund all those purchases.
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So if people wanted to watch the special, they had to do it on some platform of his.
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He has it posted on his website, but it's unclear if this is a strict embed on the site
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or if it's hosted from one of the other platforms.
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But either way, it seems unlikely that more than 10,000 people probably watched it total.
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And I'm including the people in that tent in Missouri.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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Which actually doesn't contribute that much to the...
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I was gonna say, that was probably like, what, oh, there were actual people there too.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Good for him.
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It was an angry bigot comic.
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Terrible.
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Terrible.
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Yeah.
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Complaining about gay people existing.
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You know, I just watched my first standup special in almost two years.
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Beth Stelling's new special came out.
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Oh, fun.
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Great.
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Yeah.
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She's gotten really good.
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She was good back in the day.
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She was good.
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Back in the day.
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No, no, no.
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I know, but I mean...
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Sweet Beth.
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Now we're in the time of not good, good.
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Now she's in theater good.
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She's doing good.
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She was just somewhat on her way out of Chicago when I came around, so I never really knew
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her all that well, but she was always very nice.
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And very good.
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Yeah.
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So conversely...
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Conversely.
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I watched a little bit of one special.
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Oh, no!
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I got so bored just within a few minutes.
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No, don't do it.
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It's very pandery stuff about how glad he is to not be on TV and how it's a sign of
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his purity that he's doing standup in a field that he rented in the middle of nowhere.
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Sure.
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It's all kind of dull.
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Yeah.
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He comes out screaming, they told me I was canceled!
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, no!
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Yeah.
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Oh, man.
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Pretty fucking stupid.
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I mean, if I have heard your opening bit at an open mic at some garbage place, it's like
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you can't do it on your independently released special.
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That's extra gross.
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Yeah.
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That's extra gross.
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Very sad.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, man, but the truth is he has been canceled.
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All right.
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Owen Benjamin joins us.
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One of the most canceled people out there, owenbenjamin.com, most recent comedy special
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Noble Savage.
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Got a lot more clips coming up.
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He's so canceled that Alex himself canceled Owen.
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He said he was canceled.
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That's not gonna come up at all, because Owen is fucking desperate, and he'll just drop
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the whole Alex is a dumb shill and I apologize for associating him thing that he was selling
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his audience after Alex canceled him.
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That is all just water under the bridge, man.
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Hey, Alex!
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Hey!
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Good to see ya!
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What's up?
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I missed you so much.
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Buddy.
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You're so funny.
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You know what?
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We've been sitting on this bench next to this river for 20 years, and then you've been gone
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for a couple.
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How you doing?
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You know what's great?
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Farming.
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Farming!
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What's it like in Idaho?
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Alex, you canceled me.
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More like you-to-hoe, am I right?
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Cancellation.
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That's not too far off from what some of his jokes might be.
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I really hope you're...
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So look, here's the deal.
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I think, if I had to guess, Owen initiated this.
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Yeah, well, for sure.
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Because his special's coming out, and no one wants to have him on that has any reach.
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And there's no way Alex was like, whoa, Owen's got a new special out?
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Get him on!
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And you can kind of tell because this starts off with him plugging the special.
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What do you make of where we are, and boy, Trump sent mean tweets, but we didn't get
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any big wars with him, and we're getting a new war every few weeks now.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a really good time to watch my special and laugh.
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Man, we all need a laugh in this time.
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The bravest thing you can do is watch Owen's comedy special and just have a laugh.
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I just don't...
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I'll never understand it.
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I'll never be able to get inside the mind of somebody who can self-promote like that.
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Yeah.
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I just can't.
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I have to feel bad, I assume.
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You've got to.
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Right?
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You've got to.
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Yeah.
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Somehow.
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There has to be a feeling of dirtiness, like I'm-
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Please.
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I'm pulling something on these people.
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It is a lot like I'm hanging my hat on the fucking...
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I'm hanging my hat on movies and shit where it is like these types of Pearson go into
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their dressing room, take their mask off, and then they're like, ugh, my life is-
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And they cry.
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And you're like, yeah, okay, fine, good.
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At least that's going on.
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If you go into that dressing room and you're just happy, I'm going to be furious.
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Yeah.
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I think he's probably happy.
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Yeah, I think so too.
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So a lot of people say, correctly, that Owen Benjamin is a big old bigot and an anti-Semite,
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but he's not.
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He just makes fun of the Jews like everybody else.
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Wait, hold on.
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People think I have this agenda.
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People used to think that I had this anger against Jews, but it was just because I would
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make fun of them like I make fun of Canadians or Christians or Muslims or Danish people
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or people in wheelchairs, right?
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I just won't exclude people.
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He just doesn't exclude people from mockery.
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A point of clarity, Owen doesn't just make fun of the Jews.
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He would go on long, drunk diatribes about things he didn't understand from the Talmoud.
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He'd constantly say that the Jews are evil and of Satan.
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These weren't jokes that he was making and they weren't political statements.
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It was just hate.
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People correctly categorized him and that hurt his feelings because Owen believes that
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he's entitled to say whatever he wants, wherever he wants, and if anybody calls him out for
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it being full of vicious hate, then he feels like he's entitled to dodge that by pretending
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it's all jokes, thereby making the offended party the aggressor there in the wrong.
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He's just an intellectual coward and a really, really bad comedian.
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Can't really think of much else to say except sort of repeat that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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If someone had to become a Nazi, at least we didn't lose a good comic.
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You know what I mean?
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That is a good point.
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Yeah.
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That's a good point.
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They have an interesting perspective and a gift with performance, and it's a bummer.
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It's a bummer to see them go directions that are really bad.
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And I will say there are a lot of people that I've met with the talent, the skills, and
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all that stuff, and then some of the views that if they were to start tossing those about
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in public, not going to go well for them.
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True.
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You know what they do?
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Keep it quiet.
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Just don't say it.
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They just don't say it.
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True.
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And to that level, obviously I don't think it's good that Owen says what he says, but
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him believing this in private and still acting this way, I don't know if that would be worse.
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You know, I feel like at least he's being upfront about what kind of a piece of shit
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he is, but I don't know if I actually believe that, because he is influencing a lot of people,
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and he has these followers who wouldn't be following him if he shut up.
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Sure.
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I mean, I'll take a person with the most racist thoughts in their brain who's never done anything
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racist over the person who's...
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Created a bear-themed compound in Idaho?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I guess that's fair.
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Yeah.
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So in the next clip, Owen whines about his special situation.
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You know what I bet might have happened?
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Owen Benjamin might have texted Alex, and he has him saved, and his phone is like, Owen,
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and he thinks it's Shroyer.
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That could be.
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I bet that might have been what happened.
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That could totally be.
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That could totally be.
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That could totally be.
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Owen B or Owen S, he just, Owen, and opened the text, yep, yep.
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Shit.
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God damn it.
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Read receipts are on.
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He's gonna know I saw it.
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If he has read receipts on, I'm gonna be so mad.
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So Owen whines a little bit here about the situation that he has with his special.
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You know, with the whole third party company possibly owning the footage and stuff.
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Sure, sure.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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Yeah.
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And then Alex says, we need to laugh.
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We gotta laugh.
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So it's like, that's just what I...
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I'm gonna offer for your audience that's a really interesting thing that happened to
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me today.
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Because yesterday I was selling my special for $20 at owenbenjamin.com.
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Too much.
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And we raised over, we made over 30 grand in like three days, it was insane.
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And I was just about to start doing interviews and promote it, and the camera guy started
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getting real weird about money, and he wanted more of a percentage, and he said he owned
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it and all this stuff.
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So I just said, screw you, and I returned everyone's money, and now it's free.
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So if anyone wants to see it, it's now free, because I don't negotiate with financial terrorists.
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So now he can have 100% of zero.
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Notice the absence of me saying get up.
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We refunded everyone's money, and anybody who wants to...
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It's like perfect timing, like right as this world's getting so wacky with, you know, whispers
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of war and insanity.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't talk before we went on.
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Whispers of war?
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I was like, hey, because I almost...
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I wanted you on weeks ago, and then I said, oh, he's on today, I almost tried to move
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because of all the war news, and I said, no, we need to laugh right now at the edge of
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destruction.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, man, we need to laugh.
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Yeah.
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I don't buy any of that.
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That's such a bizarre turn of events, because if you're selling your special and everything
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is going well and that's your plan, and then somebody who doesn't actually have rights
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to this says, hey, I have rights to this, you tell them to fuck themselves because you
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have your bases covered.
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I feel like maybe there was just something that Owen, some T he didn't cross, some I
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he didn't dot, and he fucked up, and this guy owned his shit.
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Oh my God.
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I would imagine he probably went through a disreputable like vanity.
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Oh really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, really the sort of person who'd still work with them would be disreputable?
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I would suggest they went through a disreputable vanity production place, and whenever he
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was reading the contract, he did not realize that they owned all of his footage.
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Oh man, he's the kind of guy who's going to get Warner Brothers.
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He's going to get- Does Rebecca Black still own Friday, or did
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that company that made it for her own it?
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She doesn't own her own master.
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Strange Choice Freedom pet.
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No idea.
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That's a reference from how long ago?
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Is that old?
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Is that young?
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I don't know anymore.
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That's pretty old.
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Pretty old.
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But there has been a reassessment of Rebecca Black's place in history and how unfairly
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we all treated her.
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Refuse.
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Whatever.
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People take her very wrong.
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I agree with that, but I want to know if she owns her own master.
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I have to... Well, I think so, because wasn't it a thing where her dad paid a bunch of money
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to make the track and stuff?
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I think they did.
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You think he... Well, I mean, yeah, he probably negotiated it for you.
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He didn't get a major release.
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It only became popular because people were making fun of it.
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Right, I understand, but it's not important.
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It's whether or not you own the master, man.
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She's got to have songwriting right... I guarantee, whatever the reality of that is,
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she did a better job than Owen Benjamin at protecting her assets.
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And she's not relying on it for... No, but it's not... We got to laugh, man.
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Just like after 9-11 when Gilbert Gottfried went into the aristocrats, this is what I
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need from Owen Benjamin right now, and I think he's going to step up.
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I think he is going to step into the shoes of one of the greatest comedians that you've
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ever seen.
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I think he's got it.
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He doesn't.
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I mean, nothing is really funny about this.
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They play some of his clips of his standup, and they're really not good.
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Yeah.
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Oof.
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He has one joke that's basically about how if people come up to him and say that they're
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gay, he tells them to get lost.
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You don't have to put up with it.
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I'm sorry?
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Yeah.
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Everybody thinks you've got to put up with them because they're gay.
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Get lost.
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He's like, what?
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As far as, I mean... What a bit.
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If there wasn't, it's like, yeah, that is... If Kindler was doing that, you'd be like,
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that man is a genius.
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It was a parody, yes.
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If it was like a take on shitty comedians like Owen Benjamin, yes.
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Also, another very upsetting thing about this is Owen's pretty big on family and stuff like
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that.
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Sure.
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He has a bunch of kids and what have you.
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Sure.
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Unfortunately, it bleeds into his special because you can hear a baby crying through a bit of
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it.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, my God.
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You can just kind of hear... That's unreal.
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Yeah.
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Hear him saying very, very horrible things, and then a baby crying.
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Oh, man.
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I wouldn't want to... That's actually unintentionally kind of funny.
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Yeah.
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There was that.
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I wouldn't want somebody to play my clips while I was there.
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No.
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That's a terrible idea.
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I'm there.
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That's awesome for you.
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That's live comedy.
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We're not going to watch my clips together.
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That's an insane person's move.
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Right.
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A normal interview like this might involve a little pre-interview where you guys come
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up with a couple of things.
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You give me the setup for my bits and then I'll do the bits.
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Much like happened with me and Man Cow.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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They ask you a few questions and they give you a few softballs to lob up your bits.
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God, that was the worst.
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Oh, boy.
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Anyway, Owen, this is the last clip we're going to hear from him in the farce section.
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It's just kind of some dumb homophobia on his part.
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Good.
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I don't think the elite class just love rollerblading and soybeans.
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I think they want less people and they want to break family units.
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Because if you have a sodomite vegan addict that's depressed and thinks that there's no
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God and we're in an infinite hell or whatever, you can get them to work for less money.
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You can get them to travel around the world and be a slave, but if you have a man with
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a family, you know, because the anus is not a sex organ and you get with a woman and you
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have children, that man is going to stand for principles.
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He's going to stand for the American way of life and he's a lot harder to control.
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And it's so obvious, you know, it's so obvious that that's the point.
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And you know, just pump them up with fluoride and vaccines and get them gay.
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That way you can be like, we'll pay you whatever.
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And people will just take it because they have no like pride in their in their self.
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They don't have a connection to their creator.
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So that's so stupid that it really, really makes me think, is this a parody?
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That has to be.
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He's trying to be funny with that.
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Well, he is trying to be funny, but I also think that he's trying to like make the underlying
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point that he's making.
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No, his point, his point is we, if you make people, if you make people sad, you can pay
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them less.
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And gay.
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If you make people sad and gay, then you can pay them less.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because that's not even a point.
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Because if you have, you know, heterosexual sex and you have children, you will stand
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up for yourself and God and country.
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I mean, that's just mad libs.
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He's got no words.
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He's got blank, blank, blank, stand up for God and country.
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But I honestly don't think like, OK, yes, clearly he's trying to be funny in the way
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he's wording things.
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Like the anus isn't a sex organ and stuff like that.
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He's trying to be funny in the Alex Jones space, the Alex Jones genre.
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But the point that he's making is not like just complete non-sequitur.
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This isn't something I'm, this isn't a point that I'm trying to make.
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That's the part that's disconcerting because it feels like, it feels like no one could
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possibly believe that.
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No one could possibly believe that.
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Yeah.
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But it seems like he does.
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That cannot be a thing someone believes.
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And he interacts with a lot of the other things I've heard him say, too.
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So that's kind of why I'm inclined to think it's not a joke.
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Yeah.
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You know, sometimes I feel like we lose just because whenever it's like, know your enemy.
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And it's like every time I feel like I know my enemy, I hear something like that.
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And I go like, who are these people?
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Where are you from?
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What is your magical world view like?
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How does anybody listen to you twice?
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Yeah.
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How do you do the living thing?
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It's amazing.
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I can't imagine functioning as a, as a machine if I functioned like you.
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It's crazy.
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May.
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Yeah.
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So we're done with the farce.
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Okay.
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And now we reach complete nonsense bullshit.
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Here we go.
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So Alex is complaining a bit, um, about DMT.
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He's talking.
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I'm sorry?
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He's hearkening back to when he was on Rogan and he broke down how the, the people are
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taking DMT and seeing aliens and shit.
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Okay.
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Has he taken DMT recently?
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He has not.
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And he has never.
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And we're going to get to the reason why there's a very good reason why, first of all, he doesn't
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need DMT.
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He's crazy enough.
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That's not how you, how he would put it, but there's other reasons.
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Okay.
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Strap it in.
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All right.
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They've had since the seventies, a secret project, intravenously keeping people under
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for up to 10 hours is what I was told.
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People that ran the project, stubble by in San Francisco and London.
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Okay.
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With people on intravenous drip, interest, keeping them on a DMT, pure DMT high.
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Cause if you take Iowask it, but it metabolizes in the gut to your, your, your basic passed
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out or out of your mind for 10 hours, you take DMT pure from the toad or whatever and
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smoke it, uh, then you are down.
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This is like a six year old conception of what's going on, doesn't matter whether it's
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a Buddhist or a Muslim or a Christian or a Hindu or an atheist.
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When you take the DMT, you see space aliens, you see other dimensions, you, you, they give
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you advanced knowledge.
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They, they tell you things that are going to happen in the future.
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Even if you're a Buddhist, it's all around us.
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Our sight is a tiny spectrum of the light bandwidth.
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We're basically like blind cause we couldn't operate over and seeing everything else going
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on around us.
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But our third eye can see it.
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The pineal gland when we sleep, really don't just war game what's happening in our lives.
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Some of the dreams are interdimensional or astral projection, whatever you want to call
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it.
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The spirit world is more real than the third dimension.
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All right, Alex.
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So you take DMT and see the future.
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All right.
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Okay.
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So we've aligned our chakras.
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Our pineal glands are open and ready to see the light.
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Alex only talks about the things he can prove, man.
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Alex is really like a hard information and proof kind of guy.
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He doesn't just take the ramblings of an old lunatic like Alfred Stubble bind and translate
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them into bizarre fantasies about how if you take DMT, you could see the future and commune
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with entities that give you.
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But here's the thing he's talking about how like, you know, it allows you to see these
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things that it's just a, you know, you don't see it cause the spectrum of light or whatever.
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I think that is his way of rationalizing why he sees demons.
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That would make sense.
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Like he has the ability that you get from DMT.
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I mean, I have a lot of the abilities that people get from cocaine, so I'll take that.
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Slight difference, but sure, sure.
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I don't think you should be, and this is, I think just from our lives, since I was born,
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I have seen middle-aged and older people who have never done drugs tell me all about the
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things that drugs do.
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Every generation, it's something new to marijuana, LSD, mushrooms.
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I just, if you want to talk about drugs, you have to just do some drugs and then tell me
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about them.
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You can't not do DMT and talk to me about them.
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By the way, while we're on the topic of drugs, I have gotten a little bit of feedback from
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people who know somebody who did heroin once, but nobody who's done heroin once.
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Tell me something.
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A lot of the traditional, oh, I know somebody.
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Right.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, the person.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Everybody in my school knows that the one guy who did it one time.
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I know the guy who didn't tell me about the second time he did heroin.
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Yeah, right?
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But Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, anybody who does DMT.
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Sees aliens.
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Right.
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And they tell them the future, which is real.
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It's actually the future.
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Right.
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But.
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Doesn't that, wouldn't that completely negate all of the religions that he just mentioned
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there?
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Wouldn't they be-
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It would be tough.
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It would be hard to reconcile them.
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You bet.
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And also, I've known a lot of people who have gotten into DMT and those idiots did not see
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the future.
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No, no, no.
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Well, that's unfortunate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If you're a Christian, something else happens.
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What?
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Spoiler alert.
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Okay.
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You're attacked by a giant mantis.
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That makes sense.
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If you're a Christian and you take DMT on average, you get attacked by demons, a hundred
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foot, the most common thing is a hundred foot tall-
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Exactly a hundred feet.
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Praying mantis that tries to break your will, because they know they don't have your will.
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Will-based mantis attack.
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If you are a follower of Christ and haven't been born again, they go, oh, we're here to
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help you.
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And the more you take it, the more you get in league with them.
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They're little elves in green uniforms, little green and black uniforms.
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They wear a little elf mask.
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They take those off later.
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They don't like you.
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This is what happens every-
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Wait.
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This is, the government knows this, okay?
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Plastic masks?
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You don't go to a foreign star to talk to aliens.
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You take these drugs and you're now in there.
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And again, the higher order, the angels, the God the creative, they don't interface with
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you unless you've opened it up and God's authorized it.
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They've got better drugs.
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It's very rare.
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And that's why Alex is so special is because he's interfaced with God and all these other
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angels.
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All right.
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Uh-huh.
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Wait.
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Yeah.
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But-
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I feel like you have some questions.
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Okay.
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No, because-
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Isn't this about the will-challenging mantis?
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, here's what we're dealing with.
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He's very much suggesting that the will-challenging mantis is real.
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Oh, yeah.
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If the other things are real-
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If we could see it-
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Yes.
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It's like probably right there.
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I mean, that's what I'm saying.
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I mean, it is-
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The mantis is dipping its little toes into Lake Michigan.
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I mean, and I feel like that's why, that's the only reason so many people survive DMT
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trips is because the mantis, despite being 100 feet tall, or perhaps because of it, only
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desires defeating the will of its prey.
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Certainly.
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Certainly you could survive that.
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As opposed to, you know-
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So, but the other thing too is that that really only happens for born-again Christians.
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Right.
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If you're not a born-again Christian, you go in there and I don't know, maybe the mantis
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says, hey, how you doing, buddy?
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Maybe you hang out with the mantis.
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Or are all of the elves that he's describing actually forming together like a Voltron to
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make the mantis?
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That seems to make the most sense to me, is that the mantis is actually hundreds of little
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elves or demons wearing elf masks.
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I think you're asking if it's a plastic mask.
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I think it's like the Spider-Man mask that Tony Stark remade.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I can see that.
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It's like that.
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I immediately went directly to like a little piece of paper and the little elastic band
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around it.
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I think that would be fun because they are so high tech and they know the future and
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all this stuff.
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It would be a fun, it'd be playful for them to have like paper masks.
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Just little paper masks.
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We drew them ourselves.
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Yeah.
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That'd be great.
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That would be so disarming and then-
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Like even if you're-
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Probe away!
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Even if you're a clockwork elf or whatever, you gotta craft.
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You gotta have a hobby.
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You gotta have a hobby.
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You gotta express yourself some way.
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Indeed.
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So, the real thing that's going on here is that Alex is talking about how he talked about
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DMT on Rogan's show and then now he's mad because Jordan Peterson was talking about
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DMT.
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Motherfucking Peterson.
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A little jealous, a little petty.
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And the globalists and their demon controllers hate you because you're made in the image
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of God.
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And if you can see your spiritual self, it's spectacular.
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I've seen it.
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I've seen my spiritual body.
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It's just like, what the hell is that?
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That's unbelievable.
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And I'm like a nothing.
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Why are there eight legs and it looks so evil?
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Why am I a giant mantis?
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And if you realized how powerful you were and the intrinsic jealousy of creatures and
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entities and all these worlds and all these systems and all this energy that shows Satan,
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it fundamentally hates you.
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But you've had your memory wiped and don't know who you are.
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And so, that's the test.
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It is the test.
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That's a fair test.
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You're not told who you are in this boot camp.
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But then God does a little cheat sheet and will let you know once you've gone through
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certain tests.
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What?
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So, that's what this is.
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You don't remember this from church?
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It's the new world order.
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There are no way.
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The Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, folks, they worship the devil.
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It came out when they leaked the documents of the 70s to the Frank Church Committee.
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What?
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That God has a cheat sheet?
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It's skull and bones.
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They speak.
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They spend weeks in coffins being defecated on and being urinated on.
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And it's even in the Good Shepherd movie.
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That's like the Frank Church movie.
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Matt Damon that was produced by Robert De Niro.
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That's in the movie.
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That's actually in the congressional reports, trying to get an entity to take them over
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as an avatar.
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All right.
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Nobody called for the Middle East.
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That's fine.
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The phones are completely open.
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877-789-2539.
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877-789-2539.
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Now, open discussion about it.
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What you think is going on?
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What's happening?
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877-789-2539.
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The phones are now completely open for everybody on that topic.
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Okay.
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So, here's what I was saying.
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Here is Jordan Peterson, so now people are going to listen, talking about it.
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So here's a couple threads that are going on here.
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The first and funniest is Alex's personification of the divine.
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There's these otherworldly entities and realms out there, but yet somehow they operate based
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on petty human emotions, like ones that Alex clearly struggles with.
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Like jealousy.
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Speaking of jealousy, this is part of an approximately 20-minute rant Alex goes on in the third hour
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about how he was talking about DMT and the demons back when he went on Rogan's show,
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but now Jordan Peterson is saying all this stuff and now people are going to listen.
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No one cares about it when Alex says these things, but now that Peterson's getting in
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the game, everyone's going to care and no one's going to credit Alex with this.
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Oh my God.
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Naturally, Alex plays this clip of Jordan Peterson saying this shit about DMT and then
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comes back with this clip.
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Yeah, so it turns out that's Peterson years ago.
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The point is this is all real.
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This is happening.
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So we didn't get any calls from Israel or wherever.
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They normally do, for whatever reason, they're not calling in.
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Gaza Strip, I guess, has their power turned off most places.
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So we're going to take your calls in general on the conflict.
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I'm just blown away that the entire premise of his rant was bullshit.
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That's nuts.
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Glad to hear Alex was able to move on from that invalidation of his premise so easily
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about Jordan Peterson.
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Now people will listen to me, oh wait, that was years ago.
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What a loser.
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That was a blistering one-two punch.
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You know that, oh, it was from years ago.
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Who cares?
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Anyway.
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I don't know.
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People didn't call from wherever the fuck is going on.
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I don't know.
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What is that?
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Probably powers out for some reason.
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Don't know.
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We'll see.
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Hey, maybe you guys should work harder to call me next time.
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Great.
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Cool.
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I have noticed this thing that generally when Alex, he puts out the call for various callers
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from specific places, they really never call in.
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And then he ends up talking to that weirdo Carlos and a couple of other regular callers
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Owl Killer.
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Owl Killer?
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That's one of his regular callers.
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Oh boy.
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Yeah.
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There's these people who just keep coming up.
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Same with, they're just not as fun versions of Louisiana Dentures and Old Man House Phone.
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Yeah.
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Owl Killer should be a slam dunk for Louisiana Dentures level.
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And if that's the first I'm hearing of them, garbage trash.
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You've heard the name before because Alex will rattle off the callers that are coming
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up.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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One of them is often Owl Killer.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So anyway, Alex does not need DMT.
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Never has, never will.
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And it's very real.
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And they're influencing what's happening on earth.
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These demons.
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Aliens, demons, it's interchangeable.
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In my view, it's the same thing.
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I really feel like your Bible would be the grief.
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I already have a connection to God.
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I already have discernment.
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My brain is already pointed where it is.
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A lot of folks that are good people want me to take DMT.
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And I'm not taking it because I'm like, I already have these dreams every night.
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And I already, and I know the people that aren't Christians, real Christians, they don't
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have the bad events.
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I was over the decades talking to Christians that take it.
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It's horrible because they know they're not going to fool you.
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They know you're not going to get you.
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And you beam into hell because hell's the only thing that's going to rape your consciousness
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when you open the gate.
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Imagine you're just opening the door.
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Wait, what?
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You're in the universe.
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You're protected by God.
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You take a drug that blows that away and now you're in a cage with a hundred foot praying
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mantis.
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That's the main thing that attacks and it's got scurrying aliens, the movie Alien all
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around it.
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And Geiger, who was a Satanist, said he had visions of drugs on those.
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All right.
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Geiger aliens.
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Does not sound fun to me.
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But that's the reality of this.
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You're out there and a face hugger comes out of the a hundred foot mantis.
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Right.
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I think this is all cute and fun.
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Sure.
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And I named that clip Alex dreams of the mantis at night.
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I like that.
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That's a good title.
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Does Alex dream of electric mantis?
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Probably.
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So I think that typically, you know, my understanding, and this is true generally of psychedelics
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and things that have hallucinogenic effects, a lot of the time what you're experiencing
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is kind of a breaking down of your ego and a seeing through of subconscious thoughts
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and things that you yourself are struggling with.
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And so I wouldn't be too surprised if the Born Again Christians that Alex seems to know
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who did DMT have some real problems that they're wrestling with internally that maybe they've
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lost touch with.
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So you take a hallucinogen that's particularly powerful, you lose control of your ability
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to block out these thoughts and maybe they're manifested as a hundred foot mantis.
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Maybe not consistently, but maybe Mancow saw that and that's why Alex is, because Mancow
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is going to those ayahuasca retreats.
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Oh yeah, that's true.
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So I think that a lot of this is coming from him.
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Yeah, that makes the most sense.
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And based on my very brief encounter with Mancow, I would say he's struggling with some
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stuff.
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Yeah, I would say he's got a lot going on in his life.
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So I think that basically what Alex is, he's telling on his friends basically for being
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really conflicted individuals who end up in horrible strife when they do hallucinogens
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because they've lost control of the connection that they have with their inner self.
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Yeah, it is such a bummer.
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You're so, you can be so much of an asshole you can't even do drugs.
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Yeah.
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That's brutal.
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Well, ideally what you'd hope is that you could have a humbling moment with those drugs
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and you know, come together and bring these pieces of yourself into a more harmonious
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place.
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You'd think.
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But that doesn't really tend to work.
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Especially not for someone as headstrong and stubborn as Alex.
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He will never listen to the mantis.
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I will say that if you discover, if you look deep within yourself and you find yourself
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and yourself as a hundred foot tall mantis, I don't know if you are coming back from that.
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Maybe you're just kind of a piece of shit so much.
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Yourself is a 100 foot tall mantis in a cage that is trying to break your will.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You're the bad person.
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Right.
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That mantis is you, buddy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, Alex takes some calls.
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One from the Middle East.
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No.
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Surprisingly.
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Shocking.
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And this caller, I just don't even know what's going on anymore.
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Walter in California.
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Go ahead.
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You're on the air.
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Walter Goggins?
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Hello.
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How you doing, sir?
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Thank you so much for taking my call.
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So back in mid August, I took a trip to Austin, Texas to see what the buzz was all about.
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Had a great time.
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I recollect an experience where I had ordered an Uber to head to downtown Austin.
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The individual who picked me up, he made his presence known in my dream later on that night.
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One of the differences was that as soon as he appeared in my dream, his eyes went completely
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black.
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What are we doing?
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What is happening?
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Oh, I thought the clip was going to keep going.
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No.
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I genuinely, I was waiting for you to let this man go.
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No.
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There's nothing really more than this.
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He just dreamt of his Uber driver having black eyes.
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Am I understanding that correctly?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He went to Austin to see what the buzz was about.
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He got an Uber.
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And then later that night, he went to bed and dreamt of his Uber driver.
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I genuinely don't know why I find something about the way he said I went to Austin to
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find out what the buzz was about.
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I find that genuinely both charming and funny.
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Well, I think it's because Alex is in Austin and maybe you build it up in your head if
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you're an Alex fan.
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Maybe.
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I like the turn of phrase, this driver made himself known to me.
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Yes, he made himself known to me later in my dream, which was such an absurd way of
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describing it.
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He made himself known to me later.
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Makes me think this guy might be a writer.
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You know what I mean?
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That seems like a writer kind of turn of phrase.
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I mean, I will say that...
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It seems like something that belongs on the page.
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I would probably leave it there and then leave that page at home.
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Morning pages.
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So we got another caller.
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Yeah.
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And this guy and Alex end up engaging in, I would say this is exactly how you would
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act if you wanted somebody to maybe stab a Muslim child.
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Great.
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The attacks are going to be here soon and very soon.
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I don't know if you remember the Sean Hannity episode where he was talking about the Muslim
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encampment north of Jasper, Texas, over here in East Texas somewhere.
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Yes.
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You only saw that report one.
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That camp went undisturbed.
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It's still there.
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I'm working in Beaumont right now and the amount of Arab looking people in this area
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is immense.
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I mean, look at all the Islamic protests all over the country, all over Texas.
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We are completely overrun.
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And I agree, it's not like Red Dawn, we're attacked by Cuba.
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The globalists are bringing in their sleeper army, there's no doubt.
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And they're here?
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They're here.
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The indication that this guy is saying is they're Arab looking people.
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It's their invasion army, according to Alex.
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I don't understand how any of this isn't just basically a begging people to hurt Muslims.
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I mean, imagine you're just at a morning meeting and somebody's just outlining the challenges
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your business is facing.
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Just in general, just like, oh, if we, this is a problem and these are, we don't know
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exactly what we're going to do yet, but this is the goal and you should take steps.
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When you're making decisions, you should take steps towards this goal.
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Alex isn't just being like, oh, you should kill people or anything like that.
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And this guy isn't just like, oh, you should kill people or anything like that.
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But there is this almost like stated like, here are the people, here are the players,
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here are the outlined goals.
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Here's the thing to be afraid of.
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Here's the fear to apply to everybody in this class of people.
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Yeah.
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And at a certain point you have to recognize that the guy giving the meeting is the person
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who is making those small steps towards the goal.
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You know, it's the person who's sitting there going, directing everybody towards the goal.
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Well, and here's what makes it even worse is when that person who's giving the meeting
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explicitly tells you what will happen if this problem isn't solved, which Alex does in our
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last clip.
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Oh, fuck me.
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The biggest that I've seen is also in the middle of Port Arthur and I'm not saying anybody
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to go do anything.
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No, but the point is that Islam takes over any country it's in and our government that
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claims it's opposing this is bringing it in.
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I'll say the American people are the main threat.
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I appreciate your call.
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All right, I'm gonna do five more minutes before Kate Dally takes over.
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I'm going to talk to Ivan and Amy when we come back, but I got a plug right now or won't
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be on air.
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Plus, this is a great product if you need.
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You've heard the callers talk about DNA force plus, you've heard them talk about real red
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tool plus.
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You've heard them talk about brain force plus, incredible and dropping.
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So casually flips over to ads, but you hear there the negative state that will happen
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if something isn't done, which is that Islam takes over every country that it's allowed
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to be in.
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Is that the state of affairs you want to be in?
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Well, in that case, Islam can't be here.
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Not even a little bit, not even one.
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These things are very easy connections that obviously listeners make.
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Whether they act on it, whether it's extreme enough within them to hurt anybody or even
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treat anybody differently, that's an individual question on their end.
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Alex can't control that, but what he can control is the sort of stimulus that he puts into
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the equation and he is putting stimulus that can go very, very bad into that equation.
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It's intentional.
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It's obvious that he can't be 20 something years into his fucking career and not be aware
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of this stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's just another example of that fucking horrific cycle that they have.
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It's that by me making you fear this thing, you enact violence upon that and then that
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thing becomes a source of fear forever because they're understandably pissed off.
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Then you go back to Alex and he goes, well, see, look what happens.
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Then you remove the idea of a person's fault by making it a false flag and then all of
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a sudden you have a perfect demon with no possible...
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Well, and Alex doesn't stand to exist in a world that doesn't have tension.
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No.
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Lessening of tensions, more people getting along creates less of a space that his shit
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even matters.
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Like there is no way that this show has any relevance in a peaceful world and I think
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he knows that.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, look, this episode is fucked up because we can go from laughing at Owen Benjamin's
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dumb ass to talking about the giant mantis to the harsh reality of Alex's stochastic
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intentions.
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And back.
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Yeah.
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Then at the same time, we already... It was earlier in the episode, but we have the denial
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of an atrocity, regardless of who is ultimately responsible for that explosion happening.
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Alex pretending it's a parking lot and no one dying is a monstrous approach to dealing
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with the world.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know, I don't know, it's a portrait of just a fucked up show.
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Imagine listening to this and not... I'm not saying in my shoes because I'm listening
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to this critically and I'm deconstructing somewhat.
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Imagine listening to this as entertainment.
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Imagine listening to this and being like, this guy is above board.
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It's an unthinkable scenario.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, getting back to how complex life is, thinking about all the different things that we've
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handled in just a short period of time.
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It's a lot.
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And then I think about how all of that stuff makes me feel and trying to deal with it at
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once, and it's like, yeah, it does make sense to want a simple version of the world.
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Yeah.
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It makes perfect sense.
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Don't get me wrong.
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And you want a simple version of this stuff about Alex even.
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Yeah.
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It's just a... I mean, granted, the simple version that he's a fucking liar.
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Yeah, sure, sure.
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That's fair enough.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But to pretend like he is one thing, one kind of liar, or whatever, is that oversimplification.
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Yep, yep.
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Anyway.
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What you gonna do?
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I don't know, man.
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But we'll be back.
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Indeed we will.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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I'm Glenn.
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I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXClark.
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I hate this beeping bit because... I was gonna say, it was not long for this world.
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Well, coming back from the tour, especially, I just feel like every time I'm halfway to
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take on me.
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I need to do something else.
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It's not a bit that I keep doing it in my head.
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No, it's there.
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It's just, if you go boop, boop, boop, boop, you're gonna go da, da, da, da, da.
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You can't.
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I'll come up with something new.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
