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Dan (00:00:59.000)

Hey everybody, welcome back. I'm Jordan breakable dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh,

Jordan (00:01:06.000)

indeed. We are Dan Georgia. Georgia. I have a quick question for you. What's your what's your today? Oh, boy, my mouth got a little. Ooh, what is your what is your dowel? Repeat? First

Dan (00:01:19.000)

down? Excuse

Jordan (00:01:20.000)

me, sir. But what is your bright spot today?

Dan (00:01:23.000)

By bright spot today, Jordan is you know, we were both gentlemen who have mental health things, share things. No, I have I've had a bit of some depression flare up and anxiety in the past month or so and been dealing with a number of things and a lot a lot on my plate, not to complain or anything. And this is a bright spot, right? During COVID, the, during the pandemic, I think a lot of people transition from going to a therapist to like going on the phone if they have a therapist, or you know, using some kind of a virtual thing. And that's fine. But it I felt it was like kind of lacking in something. And I've just recently started going back to the physical location to see my therapist who I had been seeing throughout the panel. Yeah, of course, over the phone. And it's just, I mean, I don't know if it's the same for everybody. But for me, it's so much better. Yeah, it's it feels more like we're in a space that's meant for therapy. Yeah. And if there's an appointment ness to it, there's there's an ability to be a little bit more open and raw, because it's not talking into a phone.

Jordan (00:02:39.000)

Yeah, it's like the third space. You know, it's like you if you're at home, you're just at home, you know, yeah, to be at the third space to be fully engaged in the thing that you're doing. Yeah,

Dan (00:02:49.000)

I think that's you know, a lot of people have difficulty doing exercise at home or going to the gym can be a little slightly different experience. Yeah, I think that's the case for me with therapy. And so it's just, it's great. So it's your brain jail back. Yeah. My brain jam. Yes.

Jordan (00:03:02.000)

Your brain jail brain gym. Yeah, you go you get some you get some let you get a good hard workout in get some sweats. The

Dan (00:03:08.000)

therapy is the brain James. The brain gym? Yeah, yeah, we, me in front of the show. Marty DeRosa used to have the same therapist, and we would always call it do okay, we will do in a set?

Jordan (00:03:19.000)

Yeah. Wouldn't you see each other? Well,

Dan (00:03:23.000)

so one time and you did at one time. He had appointments back to back and I was first. Yeah. And so the therapist was like, now don't be worried when you go out into the waiting room, but your friend is gonna be there. But you can just not say it's fine. That's fine.

Jordan (00:03:42.000)

Ya know us. Yeah. We did a show about this. Earlier today. We did a show about you.

Dan (00:03:48.000)

Yeah. And then I don't remember exactly what he said. But like in the waiting room, Marty said something along the lines of like, it was a good warm up to the opening set.

Jordan (00:03:59.000)

I would have been I would have said something along the lines. Oh, shit, man. I don't want to have to follow you after those. Yeah, like that. Yeah.

Dan (00:04:04.000)

Look, Marty's Marty is capable of following me on stage but maybe not. Maybe not

Jordan (00:04:09.000)

in therapy. Yeah. Marty likes to be the favorite.

Dan (00:04:13.000)

That was that was a fun period of time. Yeah. Maybe not as effective as my current but but yeah, that was that was fun. So what about you? What's your bread spa?

Jordan (00:04:26.000)

Dan? Tennis tennis Dan tennis one tennis

Dan (00:04:30.000)

Don't mock you but trench open? Yeah, yeah, sure.

Jordan (00:04:34.000)

So good. So good. Yeah, semi finals. When you're hearing this. They will be played between Carlos Alcatraz and Novak Djokovic, Alcatraz and Casper Ruud and Alexander's veriff. Two cool storylines. One last year's ver have ripped his whole ankle off the whole ankle. The whole ankle was just gone. He had to leave on in a wheelchair. Right this year. He's back at it in the semi fine new way. Congratulations, brand new robot ankle proud of the guy pretty sweet and then Novak Djokovic because because Rafa Rafa can't play yeah, Rafa is injured.

Dan (00:05:10.000)

Oh, no joke of itches the AntiVaxxer, right. Yes. Okay. Yeah.

Jordan (00:05:13.000)

So this is his chance they're tied for the most majors one in all of history and this is Djokovic, his chance to take the lead for the first time ever, right? But who should be in front of him? But under Spanish God

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the child, right? The baby Alcatraz, the number

Jordan (00:05:33.000)

one player in the world is 20 years old or whatever, right? He's your new rough, he's the new rough and he just pulled in, right when Rafa took off and it's just gonna keep going. So we'll see. I think algorithm is gonna beat the hell out of him. It's gonna be fascinating. It's, it's giving me hope that the younger generation will solve climate change. That's how good at tennis algorism Wow. Yeah.

Dan (00:05:56.000)

Do you think like Rafa set algorithms down and was like my countrymen must defend my title.

Jordan (00:06:04.000)

No, I think Rafa is currently working with a witch or something on a spell that will allow him to move his brain into Alcatraz his body in order to continue his reign of dominance forever and ever.

Dan (00:06:16.000)

I've heard this I've heard of this being done.

Jordan (00:06:19.000)

I think there was a Scooby Doo movie about it and I think that is what Rafa has been watching a lot lately a

Dan (00:06:24.000)

bunch of Alex episodes, possibly about fairly similar things. I

Jordan (00:06:28.000)

think it'll come work so Jordan, we

Dan (00:06:29.000)

got to present a episode to go over today do we? Alex was back in studio

Jordan (00:06:33.000)

all right. He's out of the hotel

Dan (00:06:35.000)

briefly. He was right back god

Jordan (00:06:40.000)

damn it. We'll

Dan (00:06:41.000)

talk about that here. First. Let's say hello to some new walk. That's great idea. So first gen epics thank you so much. You're now policy walk.

Alex Jones (00:06:50.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:06:51.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:06:52.000)

Next occupied Texas born and raised the Adrenochrome farm is where I spent my days thank you so much. You're now policy walk I'm a policy Thank you very much. Was there a song I missed there? That that's to the tune of

Jordan (00:07:04.000)

Oakland born and raised on the playground is where it's okay yeah, you as far as the cold read you got the meter right. Okay, that's pretty solid.

Dan (00:07:12.000)

Next soft whisper thank you so much. You're now palsy want I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, wonky Kong Country three Jordans conquest. Thank you so much. You're now policy one. I'm a policy.

Jordan (00:07:25.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:07:25.000)

I got something to say about that. Yes. The first thing is Wait, was it I think that number two was Diddy's conquest? Dixie was the main what maybe it might have been Dixie is conquest. Oh, I don't like three.

Jordan (00:07:41.000)

I was gonna I was wondering where we were gonna end up Yeah. You don't like three?

Dan (00:07:45.000)

I've been over this a little bit. I think the Donkey Kong one thundering everywhere. In fact, not perfect. Okay, but good. Good. Very good. Okay. Fantastic level designs. Beautiful music. Great, gorgeous looking. But also me little bit. First, first attempt vanilla. Got it perfect into three was a mistake three was a mistake. And then I kind of like Donkey Kong. 64 is a problem. For a number of reasons. 64 of them. At least Yeah, yeah. There are way too many collectibles. It makes no sense. The whole game is annoying. You have to backtrack all over the fucking place. very unsatisfying. Yeah. Everything else in the middle is kind of a blur. And then you get to drop referees. And it's perfect back at it. Yeah. Back to back to the top but wonky wonky come three. Three I feel is where things really fell apart. Gotcha. After do one really good one. And then the first one that was pretty good. Right. Anyway, have a lot of thoughts about Donkey Kong, it seems so. So also, there's a request here that for the technocrat clip that says the how's your 401k doing bro? Yeah, I don't know which one that is? I don't know if I can fulfill that request. But I will say as a 401. K. Sorry, this is the problem with cold reading. You didn't tell me to have me and I don't know. Yeah,

Jordan (00:09:07.000)

I don't know. That's how clip reading works.

Dan (00:09:09.000)

I guess I can try one of them. I have a

Jordan (00:09:11.000)

couple pick one and see if

Dan (00:09:14.000)

see what happens. No, because I have the long one. Let's see. What is this one?

Dan (00:09:20.000)

You're a trader Dan, that's not it.

Dan (00:09:27.000)

So just imagine

Jordan (00:09:27.000)

that yeah, in your head. You're a traitor, Dan. So

Dan (00:09:31.000)

we got a couple of technocrats in the mix. Okay. One of them's gonna be very disappointed. But thank you so much to nod Bard. You're now technocrat, and hairy as correct. Is that the tennis player? You're now a technocrat.

Alex Jones (00:09:48.000)

I'm a policy wonk donkey mother telling you brilliant someone someone sodomized, sent me a bucket of poop daddy sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean In a black action, he's a loser. Little little teeny baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Dan (00:10:08.000)

Thank you so much. We'll try and find that one for the next step. Thank you very much. Yeah, I'll try and make good on that. But yeah,

Jordan (00:10:13.000)

hey, that's on me. Yeah. Or you could have read the email. Why would I do that? That's a good point.

Dan (00:10:17.000)

You should have texted me.

Jordan (00:10:21.000)

And by texting you about emails that I sent you. Okay. I apologize. Yes, okay. My bad.

Dan (00:10:30.000)

This could have come up also in our daily meeting.

Jordan (00:10:35.000)

That we don't, no, no, no.

Dan (00:10:37.000)

So Jordan. Yeah. Alex was in Hawaii. I recall had a very nice time. Great. And then he came back on Sunday, and did his show on Sunday. Okay. And then he did his show on Monday. All right. And then he left. He left again. So since then, he's been broadcasting from Steven Crowder studio. Okay. He's just gone. He's just got he's in Dallas. Call. Yeah. Okay. I get Dallas and Houston confused and I'd like to apologize to Texas. Yeah. But I think he's, I think he's in Dallas. And so yeah, he's, he's there. It's weird. It's very weird. What's even weirder, too, is if you watch them as opposed to just listen to them. You'll see that both days. The when I was preparing this, there was Tuesday and Wednesday out and the videos of them you had first day Alex is on a strange animal shirt, just Steven Crowder's merch, okay. And then the next day he's in I'm pro life changed my mind. Sure. Oh my god. Steven Crowder, doing the show in Steven Crowder studio in Crowder, merch.

Jordan (00:11:42.000)

Man, Crowder, Crowder. You think you're you think you're coming out on top of this, but this is that sneaky stuff. I wouldn't trust me and I was. Oh my god, if I were somebody else's merch, they should be thinking that I'm going to steal their merch, right.

Dan (00:11:57.000)

At least the one you have on. Exactly. Yeah, it's um, ooh. Yeah. I think that Steven does think he has the upper hand here in some way. But I don't know if he knows what he's dealing with. And I don't think he's realized how far he's alienated a great deal of the potential allies. He could have to have leverage over Alex. Where he is now like, Alex, Alex was gonna fuck around to take over the mug club. What's gonna happen? Lord, no, Alex is gonna be hanging out with Jim Breuer and Nick DiPaolo.

Jordan (00:12:27.000)

Oh, man, lord knows we're about to see a Tucker Alex Crowder, monster three headed higher up here. Oh, God, you

Dan (00:12:37.000)

check out that Twitter show? No,

Jordan (00:12:39.000)

I didn't. I heard it happened out. I heard it happened. And then he got in trouble. Did he? Yeah. Fox News. His lawyers were like, Hey, you can't do that non compete thing? Yeah. And he was like, I have lawyers too. And so then they're just going to do that for a while.

Dan (00:12:55.000)

Fun. Yeah. I look forward to seeing how that all boils out. Yeah. So we have an episode to go over from Steven Crowder studio. So we're gonna be talking about the sixth. Okay, which is Tuesday. All right. Alex's entrance into and what I found very interesting about this is the episode was largely phone calls. It was largely callers. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know why

Jordan (00:13:20.000)

he has a I guess a router studio taking Infowars callers. Yeah. Okay.

Dan (00:13:25.000)

And I guess maybe part of it was like he wanted to be on Crowder show to try and poach that audience. Sure. But this yeah, there's no, like doing it multiple days. Being in creator studio multiple days is strange. Yeah, that is. There's something going on. What is he

Jordan (00:13:44.000)

second recording an album and sleeping in the studio with Kendrick? What is happening

Dan (00:13:49.000)

if I had to guess, the painting show and Alex Jones live didn't work out. Right. And so now he's trying to do it over here. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm guessing. Yeah.

Jordan (00:13:59.000)

And by doing it under Crowder's umbrella, he can literally say, see, it's not the Alex Jones Show.

Dan (00:14:05.000)

I think that that is what it smells like today. So we're going to talk about that episode. But first, we're gonna talk a little bit about something that happened on Friday's show. Okay. And that was that Alex did a little bit of a breakdown of the future of Infowars this is a this is important. I'm gonna

Jordan (00:14:20.000)

take a lot more vacations. That's the future of Infowars I'm gonna be in Hawaii a lot.

Unknown Speaker (00:14:25.000)

This may come up. Hey, yeah, that

Jordan (00:14:27.000)

sounds right. That sounds right.

Dan (00:14:29.000)

So oh in tells the audience that Alex has got to come in. He's got some emergency business to take care of.

Caller 4 (815) (00:14:36.000)

Second hour the Alex Jones Show. We may be joined by Alex Jones any minute now. But I want to give out the phone lines in case he cannot join us dealing with some emergency business right now. 877789253987778925 Excuse me. 253-987-7789 To 539 and it is Friday. So I'd say we can take a call on whatever you want, but specifically, specifically, do you agree with my political forecasting? And where do you lie right now? Or what's that guy? Okay, we're gonna be well now maybe we're gonna have to hold off on this. We are hearing from Alex now. We are dialing up. We are getting connected with Alex Jones right now.

Jordan (00:15:28.000)

Oh my god.

Caller 4 (815) (00:15:29.000)

So let's hold the phone on that guys. Let me know, on the board there what the case is. In the meantime, ladies and gentlemen, Infowars store.com. That's everything we do here is possible.

Dan (00:15:38.000)

So we this is this is thrilling. You know, it's touch and go. Maybe we're going to cause maybe Alex is going to show up. What's this? I hear something in my ear. Right. Do we? Right, Alex on the blower?

Jordan (00:15:48.000)

I mean, yeah, it does seem like we do. Yeah.

Dan (00:15:50.000)

So we gotta we got to talk about this important reason that Alex is showing. Okay.

Caller 4 (815) (00:15:54.000)

Alex Jones now joins us, Alex, you've been on a working vacation. But you broken two news stories this week. Everybody talking about sorry, Fox now, after you talked about it. And everybody talking about Mark Zuckerberg secret lair? After you talked about that yesterday?

Alex Jones (00:16:11.000)

I didn't see all that in the news. But you know, really, that's our huge audience. That's the real power of this operation. But I'm glad. I'm glad you brought it up before I came on Infowars and funding so to speak to that before we hit these two big stories.

Dan (00:16:23.000)

Okay, not a surprise. We're not talking about funding. Yeah, we're gonna talk about funding. So the two stories that he broke are Mark Zuckerberg secret lair, which already giant robots combat robots. Yeah. There's still no evidence of this that Alex has presented. Maybe it's coming down the road. Maybe he did it today. And I just haven't seen it. It's possible. I doubt it. It's it's unlikely. Then the Jamie Foxx thing is the Jamie Foxx thing. There's a story that he got hospitalized. He was hospitalized, according to his family and such a while back. And the theory is is because he got the VAX. Oh, yeah. And so Q and on Twitter is excited about Alex's two stories that he broke. Wow. Whereas the he didn't really the Jamie Foxx thing was because like it got talked about a lot because AJ Benza the guy who used to host that show on E

Jordan (00:17:16.000)

Sure, he Oh, of course

Dan (00:17:18.000)

you don't remember you don't remember the band's? No, he was on Dr. Drew's show. Okay. And he talks some shit about Jamie Foxx. And so that got a bunch of coverage. Now Alex is pretending everybody's talking about it because of him. Right. And I guess his vacation did was the only real reason anyone would talk about submarine bases and secret combat robots. Well, yeah. So didn't see anybody talking about that. So I don't know. I don't I don't hang around on weird parts of Twitter and gab and Telegram, though.

Jordan (00:17:47.000)

Now if there was cuz I know there was the new, like, Air Force guy who's coming out being like, hey, aliens are with us right? Now, if that guy came out and was like, also, if you just go a little bit out into the ocean, you'll see that Zuckerberg has a 500 foot tall Gundam in the ocean. That would be like, Okay, now we're talking. I think Alex might have been right. I don't think so.

Dan (00:18:12.000)

I think Alex also believes that there's a bit of a false flag situation going on with that aliens are fine, fine. So AJ Benza was on mysteries and scandals is that the name of the show? I don't know, some boring show on E was sort of like gossipy or whatever. I remember. I remember his commercials a lot. He had slicked back hair. And he'd always be like, on a street with a fog machine. All right, like a dark street with a spotlight in a fog machine. He's

Jordan (00:18:44.000)

the cigarette guy on X Files, but young

Dan (00:18:47.000)

and slicked back hair. So yeah, Buttons. All right. So Alex couldn't do the first hour of the show. He was supposed to do the whole show today, but he couldn't because there's important stuff going on. I

Alex Jones (00:18:59.000)

was unable to do the show this morning at the first hour. Because several hours I was dealing with accounting and and I'm not complaining. It's just where we are and all the different things that have happened and what's going on that I was telling listeners, we finally got back into the black in the last three, four months, but actually we are now back in the red.

Dan (00:19:19.000)

Oh no.

Jordan (00:19:20.000)

How crazy. Is

Dan (00:19:21.000)

it that that was a shock. That's

Jordan (00:19:22.000)

crazy. How that

Dan (00:19:23.000)

man was that those spending patterns. Imagine so you were in the black

Jordan (00:19:27.000)

and now you're in the red. It's almost like once you got the money you did then you spent it right away went on a big vacation to Hawaii. Yeah. Now you're in the red. Yeah. Weird how that works. So

Dan (00:19:36.000)

it's possible that Alex was talking to accounting, but I have another theory. I noticed something about Alex that was different than other days when he's been on vacation, and that is that I noticed he was wearing a wristband. I did a little Googling and we went on TripAdvisor and as it turns out, the Royal semester resort is a place where you need a wristband to use the pool. It's apparently also a room key like it works as a key but that argument like you know that he had it on all the time and should use it as a key. Sure it doesn't really work for me because he wasn't wearing it and the other days that he did the show, I think he was skipping out on the show because he wanted to go to the pool. And he but he needed to pop back in and complain about how they needed more money to these trips to the pool.

Jordan (00:20:20.000)

I can't believe this. I can't believe this. I don't have the I don't have enough like space inside my eustachian tubes for the amount of fluid backing up in my throat right now ready to spit on to somebody? No,

Dan (00:20:35.000)

it's beautiful. strace it it's beautiful. Right this level of raisin scammers. Gorgeous

Jordan (00:20:43.000)

God, how does it Ah, man?

Dan (00:20:47.000)

How would it play if he was like, hey, oh, when I was at the pool for the first hours, I just thought I'd come in and pretend I was talking to accountant. I mean

Jordan (00:20:55.000)

that because then he said that, you know, he's at the pool, like a half hour before he's supposed to be there. And they're like, Hey, aren't you gonna go do the things? There's like, I just can't do it today. I just can't do it. No one's there. Oh, I can do it now. And then an hour later, is I Oh, no, no, it was right. I'm broke.

Dan (00:21:11.000)

Yep, shit. So he finally took a vacation. He gets into that here. And I should point out that he's been on a vacation to Mexico twice in the last few months. So it's Oh, finally I took a vacation. This is an excessive pattern of vacations that he's been taking you bet. But maybe he should just quit.

Alex Jones (00:21:27.000)

Yes, he should. I'm gonna be honest. I'm sitting here with no money. And I'm sitting here with free speech stabilized and about to be able to stay on here indefinitely. And then I'm sitting here feeling good about a month ago saying Okay, finally I'll take a week and a half vacation and go check some stuff out while I'm at it. And you know, investigate Zuckerberg and he's underground bases, which I'm gonna talk about more when I get back this weekend tomorrow, Sunday. Photos all over but but credible testimonies, you name it. And but then I get I want to say shoot out. But I'm like to the point where it's like, well, there's well we'll know money's coming in. And when you leave, we don't bring in enough money even pay the bills. Well, it sucks. That's up to listeners, folks. Okay, I have done this 29 years. I'm not complaining but I can't kill myself. And I really feel like my primary missions complete. Everybody knows about the dual order now. We're in southern New World Order. I want to stay on air that more important work to do like exposing power outage plans. They have we told you, we're gonna lay them on quote right wingers and Christians unquote, white people. And now that preposterous, ludicrous. The essence is the top story. We have an important mission to continue on. And I'm not busy for the listeners. In fact, maybe God wants me to retire. I do I'm saying is is that we have great products you need regardless

Dan (00:22:54.000)

Oh, boy. So make no mistake about this. The underlying message that Alex is trying to send to the audience is if they don't make his job profitable enough, he doesn't want to do it anymore. Maybe it's time for him to retire. But if you don't want him to, then maybe you should help God send Alex a sign by buying more products and funding more vacations. And what he's saying he got chewed out. That was probably like one of his accountants or somebody being like, Hey, you, Dick. We're in the middle of a bankruptcy. We're trying to do a reorganization thing. And this, like a lot of this relies on the goodwill of people thinking that you're operating in good faith with the bankruptcy process. And here you go off two weeks to fucking Hawaii to this resort. What are you doing? Why are you spending this kind of money? Right? You're supposed to be broke? Yes. And I think that's probably what he got chewed out about.

Jordan (00:23:45.000)

Yeah, I would chew him out about that. Yeah, that seems like a reasonable thing to be chewed out about.

Dan (00:23:50.000)

Yeah. If I were in bankruptcy, and I spent lavishly on something I would expect to be chewed out.

Jordan (00:23:55.000)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if God forbid, anything happens to Erica, I am going to blame every single person involved in the law for doing it. It's their fault. It will be mad at them. Also. i It's a team effort.

Dan (00:24:11.000)

I agree with you spiritually. But maybe there aren't legal procedures that they could go through to speed up this process in any way. That would be like, appropriate, that's fine. I mean, then you should blame the people who created the bankrupt. Yeah,

Jordan (00:24:26.000)

I mean, yeah. Do you understand? All you're really saying is that you go down a level? This system is broken. Oh, boy. Good point. Okay, correct. We need to tear it entirely down how

Dan (00:24:36.000)

this worked. Also, you can hear in there very clearly, people at Infowars being like no one buys shit when you're not here. Nope. The rest of your staff is useless. Yep. So you gotta come in. You're on vacation who gives a shit? Yeah, it is.

Jordan (00:24:51.000)

It is like you have to come you know, whatever. His dad was like, Oh, this is a single talent business. That is not an exaggeration, even in the slight

Dan (00:24:59.000)

No, it's a blessing and a curse. And as much as he does have that magnetism to the audience that he can exploit. Yeah. But yeah, it's also like, once you stop spinning those plates, those plates are falling. Yeah, you have no support. Nobody else can do it. Yeah. And it's his own fault.

Jordan (00:25:19.000)

And you can't even separate the plates and give one to one person and one to you have gotten people who have no ability to spin plates. Yeah,

Dan (00:25:26.000)

none. Yeah. And you kind of self select for losers, when you have an operation, like the one Alex has, anybody with actual talent will not gravitate towards it to begin with? Absolutely. And if they do, they'll see what's going on there and be like, Nope, I don't want to be associated with this. Yeah, like that, like video of Alex throwing bottles of liquor around stuff like in the office, if you were somebody who wanted to have a legitimate career in any kind of media or communication, you would see them and be like, I don't think I should do this. Yeah, this isn't the this isn't a place where I'm going to go hone my skills. And

Jordan (00:26:01.000)

if you had any talent, you would also have the ability to walk out in theory now,

Dan (00:26:06.000)

if you hadn't already been tainted by your association,

Jordan (00:26:10.000)

right? I think personally speaking, all right. You know, whenever people are like, doing that whole specious argument, like oh, if there's a God, then strike me dead right now with a bolt of lightning send me a sign something like that. Right? That's That's ludicrous. I do think, though, that if you get a $1.5 billion judgment against you, that's as close to God literally shooting you with a lightning bolt as you can possibly get. You should stop. Yeah, that is a sign. Yeah.

Dan (00:26:41.000)

And I mean, like, that had to be a unanimous and it was a jury that decided,

Jordan (00:26:46.000)

yeah, they were better than God. There were 12 of them

Dan (00:26:51.000)

and they decided that amount to send a message Yes. Very clear. It's a message stop from society. Yes. Is higher lightning bolt quit. So the issue with the the that you know, the settlement and the the the damages is that Wilford snowball Snapple of the Gribble pebble sure came in and said that Alex was worth all this money, right? And he's not he doesn't have all this money. And so everyone thinks that he's worth all this money. So nobody wants to give him money because they think he's all rich. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you are. We're vulnerable

Alex Jones (00:27:27.000)

everywhere. But the show itself is isolated. It's, it's not as big as it was four or five years ago, but it was giant, but it's still core at large and actually growing but the reach of our clips everywhere is bigger than ever. It's just that that doesn't translate back to people@infowars.com and banned on video to see the live show to listen to the actual program and actually hear the sponsors to get us funds to are more successful than ever, at reaching people in finding the globalist and critic counter talking points to their lives. But we're not successful at money. And it is it is in due to their SIOP on 1000s of TV programs 1000s 1000s of news articles because you know, they'll write one article is syndicated 1000 publications, me some days, hundreds of articles a day, hundreds of new TV shows a day. CNN does a report and it's all over their CNN channels around the country. And it's just insane. CBS News report is all over CBS. Chang Jones is worth it his company and personally 400 million listeners really believe that and thought, Well, this guy doesn't need donations, this guy doesn't need money. Well now, notice you don't hear about the bankruptcy in the news anymore. And if you want to go read the filings. The US trustees office testified three weeks ago that Mr. Jones has no money, there is no money there. And none of what was filed by these people over the years is true. Oh, sorry. You could read a court you can Rick the tell the jury, I'm guilty, you can lie and say I have $4 million. But see, when the cow came to eat the cabbage. It wasn't true. None of it was ever

Dan (00:29:01.000)

true. That's not true. That's not even close to true. Yeah. And the reason that there's no media coverage necessarily of the bankruptcy process is because it's in the process. Yeah, you know, once there's a thing to report, it will end up being you know, there'll be reporting on it. But like Morgan stringer is tweeting about the hearings and stuff. That's not necessarily the news in quotes. You know, there is coverage of it. We're getting updates. Yeah, you just got to get a you know, look.

Jordan (00:29:29.000)

Yeah, I mean, when you order we're in the part of the ordering food where it's gone from the we've we've made your order sooner than now it's in delivery process. There's really not much exciting about the delivery process other than like update turning right yeah, update. Do

Dan (00:29:45.000)

you want that? Yeah, I mean, if you want a text message Yeah, I don't think that's exciting. delivery person slowed down two miles per hour quickly. Like is that what you I mean, I don't know what to do for you. Yeah. I do want to update a guest maybe if the delivery person is lost. Which might metaphorically be close to how it feels.

Jordan (00:30:06.000)

That's a good point. But

Dan (00:30:09.000)

so God wants you to give Alex money, of course.

Alex Jones (00:30:11.000)

But really, it's just in God's hands and it's in you out there. Whether you're touched by God to support us or not, but everybody really should go at me show me the Infowars store.com. The very top it says Make a donation and make a donation right there at the top. I want you to make me so to wait repeated castling time doesn't charge you a $10 100 or whatever, you can do it all the middle class people and upper middle class people are rich people that sit on the fence. Why don't you go to infowar store.com and buy 20 Alexa, pure water filters, give it to the church, give them to the local police department. Give them to your family. Go buy 20 of them

Dan (00:30:48.000)

go buy 20

Jordan (00:30:51.000)

You don't have the courage to force me to go to work every day this audience does not have the collective will to make me go to work. How dare you dare all of you

Dan (00:31:03.000)

that's bold. So

Jordan (00:31:10.000)

Can she wants to be flooded? Just watch cash.

Alex Jones (00:31:13.000)

I don't know that asteroids coming. I'm not sure what's happening. But I just know that the problems are so bad now that it's made my problems small. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, you got a broken leg and then you find out your dad's got cancer. And you don't worry about your broken leg anymore. Because your your family your dad has cancer. That's hypothetical. It just started pulling like, I mean, they've done such bad stuff behind the scenes I've even talked about the nastiness they don't I mean, the last few years, my family and things have been so painful. And had been so horrible that there were blessings. It really helped me get my mind together. It really helped me grow up a lot. It really realized we were right about the enemy too. And I actually thank God for allowing the persecution. And I just appreciate God and I understand that it's God's plan. But dammit, I don't want to give up. And I wish we were flooded with money. Possibly so easy. If I wasn't spending half my time scrounge around for money. That's why I have to take more vacations. Now. I just cannot spend five hours a day scrounging around for money dammit, I hate it. I absolutely hate it. And you know, it's just so frustrating if people would just go to infowar store.com. You need one of these filters.

Dan (00:32:26.000)

Don't you understand? He needs to take vacations from trying to make money for his vacations. Yep. Three, at least three vacations this year so far. And we're in you know, we just finished May? Yeah. Three, like, well, I guess why is not International. But yeah, yeah, it's close to international in some ways,

Jordan (00:32:49.000)

I would be happy. Just because you don't have a passport doesn't mean it's not like a 10 hour flight or whatever it is. Yeah. I don't know what to say

Unknown Speaker (00:32:59.000)

it is pretty,

Jordan (00:32:59.000)

pretty staggering. It's so I mean, I genuinely don't know how it's possible. Like the way that my idea of how the world has always worked, is shattered by this man. Doing this, you know, like, everything I've ever been taught, I believe is wrong. Entirely. Because following rules was a terrible idea. You could do this.

Dan (00:33:22.000)

Well, not everybody could. No, that's true.

Jordan (00:33:24.000)

That's the That's the issue. You got to work pretty hard to get there. Yeah, yeah. Or

Dan (00:33:28.000)

there's a long entry process. There. Not everybody lacks the moral character that Alex does, you know, like, the heat doesn't give a shit at all. And a lot of people would have misgivings some about doing a lot of this stuff, something and that would trip you up along the way. You know, you would really screw up something. If you weren't primarily motivated by like completely scamming people. Yeah. But But also, I think that one of the things that is, is dynamic about his fuckery is that he was not primarily motivated by scamming people, like when he was on public access, and all that and all that time, that motivation shifted. The the that that's what most people don't have,

Jordan (00:34:16.000)

I think Rich People go crazy, I think I think probably you're probably right, it's once you get a certain amount of money, you just lose your mind. Because I mean, how what human being could possibly be like, Okay, we're gonna charge $10,000 for insulin. Like that's insane.

Dan (00:34:30.000)

It is the same. And I think that the other thing too, is that there's probably a corrosive process in your brain. When you're someone like Alex and you can see like, Okay, I go on air and I freak out about something ridiculous. And I see a million more dollars come Yeah, you know, like, and you see I take a break Owens on and I lose everything. Yeah, nobody buys anything, right. There has to be something really bizarre about that. You know? Yeah, you know, I could totally disincentivize He says decent behavior. Here's

Jordan (00:35:01.000)

what I could, I could totally see a possible future wherein this starts happening and you just go full nihilist. You're like, because you're self aware of what you're doing and how successful it is. You'd have to be like, well, there's no hope for humanity anyways, right? Look at what I'm doing. And I'm a millionaire. Fuckit everybody must die, you know, like black pilled?

Dan (00:35:23.000)

Well, he does constantly get into moods, where everyone should die. There is a little bit of that. Yeah. So I know that Alex was gonna do some like hidden camera stuff where everyone loved him, right? He hasn't done that, oh, he talks about it a little bit more. But then also, there's a new group of people who love him, okay.

Alex Jones (00:35:39.000)

Last night, I had six women in bikinis. As I'm walking my pathway at the hotel, coming from the beach and start jumping all over me and grabbing me and hopping up and down. I mean, close it. And then it happened again again and again. And again. I'm not bragging aren't the enemy. You know, you screwed up. Everyone hates you.

Jordan (00:35:58.000)

Kini babes. Love me now.

Alex Jones (00:36:01.000)

So you think you radiated me and destroyed me? No, it made me 10 times stronger. I am so powerful.

Jordan (00:36:08.000)

I accidentally found myself walking by a lot of AES carwash movies,

Dan (00:36:14.000)

there were a couple of people in bikinis at the pool before I came on the show today.

Jordan (00:36:19.000)

Wearing the bracelet from the pool, there's these bikini ladies that

Dan (00:36:23.000)

they love. Like,

Jordan (00:36:25.000)

why why? Why would you even say that? That's just, yeah,

Dan (00:36:29.000)

so here's here's the update on Infowars as future we've got a good sense of towards the future. Yeah, we're treading

Alex Jones (00:36:36.000)

water here, ladies, gentlemen. And, you know, part of this process, they've tried to break me out of this process of them trying to destroy me. It's why I told you about six months ago, I said, I'm gonna take off a week out of the month. That means if I don't take off for a couple of months, I'm gonna take off two weeks to tell my family, I gotta get in shape. I gotta get closer to God, get in shape, spend time to research and meditate on what's good, what's awesome. And you know, I've had some family that I've not spent time with. And that's a family that's been having some medical problems. I'll leave it at that. And, you know, hey, when family members won't go to the doctor, and they're having serious issues, you know, I mean, I make him go to the doctor, I take him to the doctor. So some days I'm not there. It's because I'm taking him over the doctor making them go to the doctor. And I'm just sorry to disappoint my family comes first. I've done my mission. I want to launch my new mission. But it's up to you whether we continue or not. Infowars store.com x three is about to sell out. Impressive.

Jordan (00:37:34.000)

That is a smile. That is the ability to say that without laughing at how cruel you are to other human beings. I want your

Dan (00:37:42.000)

family go to the hospital.

Jordan (00:37:43.000)

Maybe it has something to do with all the shouting I do about how doctors take money to murder

Dan (00:37:47.000)

people that have killed floors. Maybe what happened to that maybe

Jordan (00:37:51.000)

they don't want to go to the Oh no, we don't worry about the killer. What happened to the kill? Way back when it's like a week ago. That was free vacation stuff. They had proof of murder floors. I mean, that wasn't a big enough story for people people were like, oh, murder floors and all of these hospitals. No big deal. I

Dan (00:38:10.000)

forgot that I forgot about that. Yeah, I

Jordan (00:38:13.000)

know. We live a very strange life. We live such a strange life.

Dan (00:38:17.000)

I mean, we're out of diesel murder floors. Oh

Jordan (00:38:20.000)

my god. I forgot we were out of diesel. We've been out of diesel for months. The

Dan (00:38:24.000)

food supply has completely, like just collapsed. All of our factories are on fire. Yeah, all the food plants. All the food plants are all blowing up blowing up. Yeah. Trains are constantly derailing. There have been frequent attacks on the power supply. Chicago has been nuked eight times. I

Jordan (00:38:43.000)

God we are we are a rebel beneath rubble beneath rubble.

Dan (00:38:46.000)

Yeah, Hillary and Michelle Obama are both present

Jordan (00:38:49.000)

as they will be or have been or already are.

Dan (00:38:53.000)

And the United States has been turned to to a caliphate. Yes, yes. And everybody who's in Congress is now a Duke. Yeah, yeah. And

Jordan (00:39:01.000)

you know, keeping track seems like a real waste of time some days.

Dan (00:39:10.000)

So now we're gonna jump to the sixth is in Crowder studio. Might you might detect a speediness to Alex today. Interesting. I'm not saying he's on stimulants, but feels like he might be stimulants. There's a bit a bit of pressure in his speech,

Alex Jones (00:39:26.000)

our understanding how the world works, studying the globalist saying their papers, their books, history, their real reports, because they talk about us like we're animals. We can't read what they're saying and doing like they're at the adult table. We're at the kid table. Well, the adult table for 40 plus years studying this, okay, since I was nine years old, 40 years I'm studying this since I was nine years old. I really woke up to this because it's so incredible. I wasn't reading comic books anymore because they weren't real. I was reading about the real stuff that's so exciting. As people get excited about the real universe and not about the baseball or football or knowing all these Stupid statistics don't matter. The average man is really smart. He's got all these football statistics, all these basketball statistics, all these baseball statistics, all the hockey statistics, spend all their time on all about this crap. That doesn't matter. But I learned about the new world order statistics, I learned all about bio warfare. I learned all about the CIA. I'll learn all about the Kennedy assassination, I learned all about Julius Caesar. I also learned about Sunsoo I learned all about that, because it's so important.

Dan (00:40:26.000)

You can learn shit. Yeah, but the only thing I think that's interesting at all about that clip is the nine age because it was 12 before Yeah, when he read none dare call it conspiracy. I woke him up and now three years prior to that, apparently since that he'd been studying the New World Order. And then it becomes very strange that it's a nine he's been studying the New World Order and like really getting into this stuff. And then he fell to Satanism as a teen.

Jordan (00:40:54.000)

Sure, but I want to say I think he had a dream when he was like five there was

Dan (00:40:58.000)

I think it was earlier than that. Yeah, it was early. Quite early age. Yeah. Told him all the future. Yeah,

Jordan (00:41:03.000)

so I don't think we need to worry too much about his dates. You know, that's the dream talking. We're all living in his dream future. Naturally. This is prophesied in his dream. He knew this was all coming.

Dan (00:41:16.000)

i That's as like realistic and explanation as anything at this point.

Jordan (00:41:21.000)

I am struck by how statistics of any sport generally speaking are real and the things that He is complaining about people knowing that are real He is then saying haha, look at all the fake things that I know Do you know statistics? Look at all the non existent things that I know. Yeah.

Dan (00:41:43.000)

Yeah, well, he knows a lot of things it's just they're not real Yeah, I don't think you can real things but the things he knows aren't real you can't

Jordan (00:41:50.000)

make fun of somebody for this is my rule. You can't make fun of somebody for knowing baseball statistics if you can also name like, five minor Star Wars characters. You know, like there's there's just a certain level of you enjoy something a lot. You'd like to know stuff about it. That's great. Babu. frik Yeah, see, there you go. You can't complain about tennis anymore. That's the rule before

Dan (00:42:14.000)

Salacious Crumb. Oh, love me. Fisto

Jordan (00:42:19.000)

god damn kid Festo. Todo Porkins my friend.

Dan (00:42:27.000)

Yeah, I only know Kit Fisto because of Chris Catherine. Yes. But the other ones I remember from overhearing conversations about stuff. Not from Fortuna, I remember from being a kid. Because he was like, when a job is buddies, right? Or something? The update remember, snakehead?

Jordan (00:42:47.000)

Oh, was that his name? I think so. Oh, is he the guy? He was the guy who meets you, then I do. I know, Dan, my memory is such that I know a lot of stuff. But I can't tell you what I know at any given point in time. I don't know. It'll come back to me sooner or later.

Dan (00:43:06.000)

So Alex, like I said, it's a little speedy, little speedy,

Alex Jones (00:43:10.000)

we have to get ready for victory. Now, I've been saying this for 20 plus years on air. You know, the first five, six, I wasn't really dialed in every day, but I'm under 20 years. But the last 20 I really learned how things work. And I've explained we're gonna hit a point because I bet on you. You know, I love that song. I was listening to it last night driving up to Dallas from Austin to the show. Here's your Crowder's read operation. And I had listened to Hart a long time. So I was going through classic rock and I listen to hearts coming straight on straight on, straight on for you today with a song. And maybe I can pull those lyrics up here during the break and maybe come into the next segment and play part of that song and actually read the lyrics. Because it says I'm gonna bet on you again and again. And again. I couldn't help but bet on humans, because I'm a human. And I love my ancestors. I'm proud of who I am. And I'm proud of you. And our future helped me in a practical way. But I believe in us. And I know we've been through so much. And we're gonna go through more, but we were gonna do incredible things together. And so I bet on

Jordan (00:44:11.000)

myself, doesn't have to create a

Dan (00:44:14.000)

bet on you again, and again, play the same note for

Alex Jones (00:44:19.000)

you love you and stand with you and to be with you. And I want our enemies to know I'm coming straight on. I'm coming straight on. I'm coming straight on stage leading a frontal attack on the New World Order. Because I studied warfare, I studied history. And I decided the most effective thing is just to be completely truthful and go 110% against the enemy and probably get destroyed the process. And it's going to be in that spectacle of taking them on and slugging it and battling them. And I knew I could metaphysically see it. God gave me a vision of the attacks and how intense they would get and how and how and how every time they attacked me would make me more powerful. That's how that's how the galleon dialectic works. And then they went on only gets more and more pests and more pests until they finally had to kill me or publicly terminated pieces. And you call the Obi Wan Kenobi moment. And that's what we're entering right now. And ladies and gentlemen, this is what it's all about. This is

Dan (00:45:15.000)

what it's all about what makes

Jordan (00:45:16.000)

you say that he's on stimulants the sudden changing from subject to a song that he heard that he really needs to tell you all about, and then gotta hear that seamlessly going back into the same subject without taking a breath. I have not heard anybody do that since my time at all of comedy parties.

Dan (00:45:37.000)

I see there's a part of me that feels like this is Kochi. But then there's another part of me that thinks, Well, maybe he's just like, keenly aware of trying to poach Crowder's audience Sure. And it being kind of like, he's a bit nervous and over performing, you know, like, kind of like, he knows what his image is. Yeah. And he's trying to play into it a little bit. Yeah, have some kind of like, I'm an intense preacher, blah, blah, blah. But I have so much to say, and Barber, you know, like,

Jordan (00:46:06.000)

I mean, I can see that. Here's what I can. I'm not saying Coke, because that's a controlled substance. But there are plenty of ways that if you have ever been a long haul trucker that you can stay up for several days yellow jacket and talk real fast.

Dan (00:46:21.000)

I the only reason that I bring that up even is like, I want to have other possible explanations, because if I were lazy, my immediate conclusion would be this dudes. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Or, or too much Adderall or something. Yeah. Like, it would just be like, Yes, this is exactly what you're saying. I've been on the other end

Jordan (00:46:44.000)

of this. Yeah, I've been on this conversation so many times. You can feel it almost like at the moment, you know, you're trapped. That's the scariest moment when you realize I can't find a way to leave at this. This is just where I am now. I'm no,

Dan (00:46:59.000)

I'm no saint. I've also been that, hey, that happened. I have annoyed people like,

Jordan (00:47:05.000)

Hey, listen, I have done this for weeks at a time. I'm bipolar type one. I live this life.

Dan (00:47:12.000)

Yeah, yeah. So Alex, I mean, you got a flavor of how we're gonna be He, we know that he had a vision when he was a child. Yeah. But he also had a vision. A number of years back, well, eating chicken fried steak. Sure. We have heard him talk about this before. Yes. And he tells this story again.

Alex Jones (00:47:30.000)

I remember I was on the air for two years on access TV and just started my local radio show. It was exploding top ratings. I was like 23 years old. And I'm sitting there at a little restaurant at like nine o'clock at night. It's empty. Because you're gonna beer and iced tea and eat a chicken fried steak. And I sat there for like, an hour. And I had this whole download. And it was like, it was like, there was like danger in the room. It was like I could tell it was like a spiritual warfare. And I could feel the fear out of it. It was trying to scare me. It was the it was the awesomeness like standing on the edge of a cliff, or looking into infinity. And it was just like, this is the future. This is what's gonna happen. Are you ready for this? Is this a choice you want? Because you've been chosen to do this. And all of you been chosen as well. That's why you're here. And I said, Absolutely. I accept this commission. And it was okay, you're gonna get hurt really bad, but you're gonna do incredible things. And just just trusted me and you are going to be the guy that this does happen. I told the story 20 years ago, this happened like 27 years ago. You're gonna be the guy that causes the chain reaction to bring the next group of leaders for the big battle. And your longtime listeners have heard me tell the story. 100 times. You heard me tell this 20 years ago, this I was embarrassed for the first five six just sounds so awesome. You know that literally, I was like, they get it a whole download? Like what? Like an hour to sit in a restaurant is gone. What the? Like, then like, wasn't this big choice. Just like the devil wants you to sign a contract? Well, God wants you to sign a contract. And I signed the contract with this gentleman. I signed the contract. They signed the contract.

Jordan (00:49:09.000)

I mean, I am and listen. Yeah, I feel like I feel like maybe I'm, I'm just too cynical. Yeah. But perhaps if there was someone called the father of lies. Ooh, who works entirely through contract based arrangements? Yeah. And you were suddenly met by somebody calling themselves God, who happened to have a contract with him? Perhaps your first thought wouldn't be Oh, my. This is the Lord Almighty, who apparently needs contracts.

Dan (00:49:40.000)

Yeah, God, according to even Alex is super into freewill. Yeah, it would involve like getting locked down into a contract.

Jordan (00:49:49.000)

I think maybe Alex got tricked by Satan.

Dan (00:49:52.000)

I think this is maybe more of his delusions. Yeah, that's probably true. I just kind of had a thought where I was just like, I I have no comment on this. This is just for presentation of this. But the other the only thought that I really had isn't content based at all. It's more just like, if Alex is trying to appeal to Crowder's audience. I don't know if they're gonna like this as much as Alex's audience does. They kind of like fart jokes,

Jordan (00:50:16.000)

aren't they like, they're kind of the crowd. And they're

Dan (00:50:21.000)

like Crowder, fancies himself funny, and does a lot of sort of racist sketches and characters and poop humor. And stuff, like Alex is screaming about how God appointed him by contract to be the leader of the next generation of share anti communist fuckwit. So that's not like, that's not going to play true. But

Jordan (00:50:45.000)

I mean, think about this, because this is something that we do know, is is absolutely true. There is a percentage of that audience that is almost certainly interested in getting more extreme versions of that. Sure. You know, so if he's, you know, if Alex has to know, at a certain point, I'm not going to be able to steal everybody. Yeah, but I do know that there's a set of every right wing audience that wants to be more extreme.

Dan (00:51:11.000)

I think, to some degree, that's probably a better strategy than making yourself kind of middle of the sea and just fit in or whatever. Yeah, if you're, if you're, you know, it's better to radicalize and draw in 5% of the audience, then be fine to 90, right, you know, like, the 90% of like you when you show up on the show, but they're not going to follow you to whatever you do that 5% will probably and the 5% is who buys your shit. Once they once they're in the ecosystem once they're old enough to have a credit cloud. I

Jordan (00:51:46.000)

mean, that's, that's that. Yeah. But I mean, the motivated people are the ones who are going to click through to the next link.

Dan (00:51:53.000)

Yeah. So is there a conspiracy afoot with Alex and Steven Crowder ways? No, they just like working together. Okay.

Alex Jones (00:52:01.000)

I will throw this out. A lot of rumors swirling around about what's going on with me every few weeks after co hosting Steven Crowder show. I've got really good friends with them over the years. He's anti censorship. I like doing his show. I like doing something different. And we plan to work together in the future. This isn't going anywhere. His shows exploding. This is just us up here having fun, because I enjoy it. I say anytime you want me, I'll be there. And so it's mutually good for both broadcasts to synergistically expand what we're doing and to fight tyranny. And so this is what this is all about. And so there's no I mean, we are getting married next week. But other than that, we're both Yeah, no, no, that's it's a joke, folks. We're actually space aliens. No, I mean, it is what it is. And so

Dan (00:52:46.000)

great to see that's actually more in line with what creators audience probably would think is cool.

Jordan (00:52:51.000)

Yeah. Fun. Yeah. Terrible. Jokes, terrible jokes that you have to immediately disavow because you're so terrified that anybody might misunderstand your joke. Yeah. Jesus.

Dan (00:53:04.000)

So that makes me think that even more that something's up.

Jordan (00:53:07.000)

Yeah, absolutely. He just said that they're entering into something of a business partnership, and they're moving forward. That's literally what a conspiracy is.

Dan (00:53:15.000)

Yeah. It feels it feels like he's Yeah, probably probably tried to hide some money. So Alex goes to break and he comes back and this is so good. So good.

Alex Jones (00:53:41.000)

Such a powerful song. Just read these words. I'll get the number out. Take your call cover ton of vital knows. Quite some time. I've been sitting it out. take no chances. Prisoner down. No refund. Knock down the Wailing Wall. Paint no sin. That the feel of fortune. Do me in come up straight on for you. I've made my mind. Now I'm stronger. Now. I'm coming through straight on. Straight on for you. Straight on for you. Now I know I've got to play my hand. What the winner don't know. A gambler understands my heart keeps playing it through what is happening through with you my friend. I'll take my chances on you again and again. I mean, come on, straight on for you. have made my mind. Now I'm stronger now. I'm coming through. straight on. straight on. straight on. Yeah, for you. Yeah, straight on, straight on for you. You've made my mind. And now I'm stronger. Now I'm coming through straight on. Straight on straight on for you. Oh my god straight on for you. Straight on for you. You made my Mind now I'm strong now I'm coming through, straight on straight on for you. Straight on straight on. Straight on for you straight on for you that's my message the New World Order.

Jordan (00:55:12.000)

Wow powerful stuff. Powerful stuff.

Alex Jones (00:55:16.000)

Break it up crank it up.

Jordan (00:55:18.000)

I think I think if if you wanted to torture somebody Yeah, just have them get that clip of straight on straight on straight on for you in their mind over and over it

Dan (00:55:33.000)

becomes very confusing. It'll drive you insane. Yeah, you don't really have to if you're like reading the lyrics or something you don't really have to keep repeating the chorus part that just repeat. Oh, that's silly. That is very sweet. I think Alex might have a future career in dramatic poetry reading I know if this all falls apart. I have a little reading I'd like to do myself something that I think is very powerful. My message to the New World Order okay. If we still have time, we might still get by every time I think about it. I want to cry with bombs and the devil and the kids keep coming. No way to breathe easy. No time to be young. But I tell myself I was doing all right. Nothing left to do at night. But go crazy on you. Crazy on you. Let me go crazy on you. Crazy on you. Oh yep, that's Yep.

Jordan (00:56:23.000)

Little reading. Okay, all right. All right.

Dan (00:56:26.000)

I probably could have got the next verse. In hard work current day band Alex would fucking hate them. There's too many women in powerful positions and he probably fall into some kind of Q anon culture war meme about alone being about trying to lower a child away from their parents. Totally. How do I get you alone? 100%

Jordan (00:56:45.000)

Absolutely correct. And

Dan (00:56:47.000)

let's not even start talking about the story of the song. All I want to do is make love to you because that song is not about what you think it is. It is not just about making love. Oh, no. You don't? No, no, I think we've talked about this maybe at a bar in the past. But the that song is about a woman who meets a man. Like randomly it was like, you just gotta fuck me. I just want to I gotta I gotta get let's just bang it x yeah, let's just do it. No strings attached. Right? Whatever. They fuck. And then she leaves. And it turns out that she just wanted to get pregnant because her husband couldn't get her pregnant. And so the third verse of the song is she and her child end up going into a store and the guy is there and he sees his own eyes. The child please, please understand I'm in love with another man. Right? Right. Right. The only thing he couldn't give me is the only thing that you can Ah, man I want to do is make a loop. Yeah.

Jordan (00:57:50.000)

Wow. Alex would not be thrilled. That is a that is a deep narrative for three and a half minutes long.

Dan (00:57:55.000)

It doesn't come through fully in the lyrics. You have to make some leaps. But music video it's

Jordan (00:58:02.000)

it makes way more sense than the music video. Gotcha. Gotcha is a multimedia presentation spelled

Dan (00:58:06.000)

out gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. All right. Also, I listen to a bit of heart in because of Alex bringing this up and some bangers on there. barracudas fun always and then that when the drums kick in and alone Holy shit, yeah, get out of town. Yeah,

Jordan (00:58:22.000)

they knew what they were doing. Yeah, yeah. Great. They had a good run

Dan (00:58:25.000)

those Wilson Sisters. So Aleksa had some insight dirt. Not dirt, but he has an inside scoop on Tucker and also Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Sure. Talking about God lately, okay. And Alex knows why. But he's not gonna tell you until he does.

Alex Jones (00:58:41.000)

I've heard of the stuff I've seen. He's gonna say he cannot tell me the veil gets lifted. And his God removes his protection. You're gonna see stuff that other people don't see him for a long time. And I know the inside baseball I cannot tell you stuff that I know. But But let me just tell you something. There's a reason Tucker Carlson is talking about God there's a reason Robert F Kennedy Jr. is talking about God I'm gonna leave it at that are you man I really want to tell you this but I just I'm not allowed to tell me.

Jordan (00:59:20.000)

Just tell me I wish I could tell Yeah, well, you got to tell me now but you'll learn soon

Alex Jones (00:59:27.000)

enough. Not sooner that tells me it opened up in Revelations. Only about a third of the demons are on the earth right now. Let me let in right now. Every second for their aliens, folks. How many people are there? They're they're jumping in like paratroopers right now. And CERN definitely has opened up a gate and this time when they activate it. Thank God it's blown up each time. They create a black hole destroy the Earth. I know this all sounds wacky, folks. This is really going on.

Dan (00:59:59.000)

Oh boy. Ah so yeah that's apparently why Tucker and concern the third of the demons have jumped through the CERN portal

Jordan (01:00:06.000)

How many can get through at a time? Or is there a situation where like three of them try and go through at the same time and they all get kind of three stooges? Yes, definitely. Oh, no.

Dan (01:00:17.000)

Demons the little known fact Yeah. Big on physical. Physical Calvin. Yes, that makes it that actually makes a lot one did a pratfall through the portal.

Jordan (01:00:25.000)

Oh man. Nice little.

Dan (01:00:33.000)

Oh God, so that certain demonic ritual thing was a hoax prank thing and Alex is still reporting on it as if it was real. Part of opening up a portal to hell where demons flow through. It's really hard to tell if Alex is sincerely this stupid that he believes this level of idiotic nonsense just because he skimmed a headline about it on some shitheads blog, or if this is a manifestation about how desperate he is to look interesting to potentially Steven Crowder's audience. Yeah, in the real world, he has nothing to offer anyone really. But in the fantasy makeup world, he has access to all these mystical truths, and maybe that can make him seem cooler than he is. Also, the real reason that Tucker and RFK Jr are talking about God is because their political figures trying to appeal to a largely right wing audience, and appeals to religion are powerful rhetorical tool conservatives have used to mask the reality of their political agenda for years. If I were Alex, I probably tried to pass it off as Tucker being scared about the CERN demon portal to because the alternative is recognizing the crass way that he and all his political allies exploit religion for power and profit. And that's just not viable. That is

Jordan (01:01:39.000)

just not viable can't do it. No, that would be revealing that perhaps you've signed a contract with the devil and not God and set himself but

Dan (01:01:45.000)

let's talk about how you feel about the surprise that the CERN portal with a third of the demons is the reason that Tucker's talking about God.

Jordan (01:01:54.000)

I want to know something. Yeah. Isn't the isn't America building a larger collider? I want to say that there are plans I think I want to say it's in the process. I would believe that I think he should be more angry about that. Because then the black hole is in his backyard. Nah, yeah. Nah, I mean, listen a black hole all the way over in Europe. That's not gonna bother me too much.

Dan (01:02:19.000)

A lot of Ding Dongs have done a lot of groundwork into making CERN a buzzword that you can use Sure so he can't have like another he can't build from scratch. There's a lot of great patriots came before him to allow him to do this stupid shit. CERN has

Jordan (01:02:35.000)

been up and running for a long time. We found the Higgs boson a long time ago, we didn't create a black hole. Everything's fine. That's

Dan (01:02:43.000)

how long it takes these demons to get through the portal. Wow, that's a good point. It's not like Elon Musk's underground. That's our quick and efficient. Demon portal is long. Right? Right. Right. And so yeah, it's been up and running for a long time. You bet it has. And every day that it's open. More demons how much this is very similar to Project Camelot. Bullshit.

Jordan (01:03:07.000)

How much distance do you have to cover from one dimension to the other? Right, like

Dan (01:03:12.000)

so I have to think like, it's instantaneous, right? Yeah, but I'm imagining this as an actual like, tunnel. Right? Okay. Yeah. Okay, just because it's more fun for oh,

Jordan (01:03:22.000)

well, now I'm thinking Okay, so we've got the portal to Hell open. All right. But in my imagination, or in my understanding, is

Dan (01:03:29.000)

it possible that this is Buzz marketing for Diablo four? Ooh, that could be third of the

Jordan (01:03:35.000)

only opened up. A third of the demons are out. Something about Lilith? Yeah, there we go.

Dan (01:03:41.000)

This could be we might be missing the whole thing. Alex might be taking the check from Blizzard.

Jordan (01:03:45.000)

Well, if there was anything more awful Blizzard could do. It would be paid. Alex Jones. Yeah.

Dan (01:03:50.000)

So look, there's a lot going on that we don't see true that like the demons coming in through the border.

Jordan (01:03:56.000)

I mean, it's so far away. Isn't Europe, right? Also, I

Dan (01:03:58.000)

met a guy who worked at CERN. Yeah, I think I've talked about this. Yeah. He didn't mention the demons.

Jordan (01:04:04.000)

No, you think that if if demons? Yeah, that would be number one. But

Dan (01:04:08.000)

this also was like 10 years ago. So maybe the demons hadn't

Jordan (01:04:12.000)

gotten through? Yeah, that was? Yeah.

Dan (01:04:15.000)

Anyway, there's a lot you don't see. Sure. Unless you do acid, oh,

Alex Jones (01:04:19.000)

there's different analogies to different energy. There's so much energy, it's hard to quantify. We added all different types of discovery all the time. But let's just say we see 1% of what's going on. It's way less than that. But you see 1% Your eyeballs are only set to pick up a very small amount of stuff that's going on. Here's an example. It's

Jordan (01:04:37.000)

like you evolved, who set

Alex Jones (01:04:40.000)

my boiler rooms for 2030 at the same time, and seeing the same beings together and writing in notebooks without talking what they've seen and what's going on in the CIA's was studying it for 50 years. When people take very strong doses of LSD in depth double blind studies for secret government. When you have an access to from sources, you can see the echolocation of bats. Because it's lifting the veil to look at red laser beam shooting out of

Unknown Speaker (01:05:11.000)

the bat, you mean sound

Alex Jones (01:05:15.000)

duplicated over 1000 times. So you can see echolocation. But you've got a filter in your brain because you'd be seeing too much.

Dan (01:05:25.000)

Yeah. See, that's the problem. Alex is talking about, like a diagram he's seen in a book of bats giving off like, beams. Yeah, it

Jordan (01:05:34.000)

is just sound it sounds they go. And then the sound comes back to them. And then they know where stuff is. Yeah.

Dan (01:05:39.000)

And, you know, Echolocation is a really interesting thing. Because when you have like whales and bats that have evolved to, to use it as a visual medium chair, like being able to bounce the sound off, they can tell where things are sure. And people who are born blind are often able to learn and develop some amount of echolocation. Yeah,

Jordan (01:06:04.000)

there was the there was the guy who could ride a bike. That was his. That was his thing that got him on local news

Dan (01:06:10.000)

there, there are really fascinating ways that it can be used. But what you are using is sound. Bats, the sound they make some of it might not be audible to our ears, but it is not magic. It is still sound. Yeah.

Jordan (01:06:24.000)

So and to reiterate, sound is just air particles moving real fast,

Dan (01:06:29.000)

right? But here's where things get really interesting. Alex, is it like he he's wrong and stupid. But if you take what he's saying, and apply some real world to it, he's saying that people can see sound in theory, when they take LSD, right, some amount of synesthesia type experiences are reported by people who take LSD. Yeah, you know, when your senses overlap slightly, you can taste a color or something like that, you know, like that is an experience that some people on doses of LSD can experience. Sure. And so if he's saying that, which is not no, there's that kernel of truth to it correct. You are not piercing the veil and seeing demons or something, some magical area of, of things that are not available to you, you're there's a bizarre reaction that's happening within your brain because you took a poison. Yeah, you

Jordan (01:07:25.000)

took a chemical, and then the parts of your brain that separate senses go, I don't know which one I'm supposed to be right now. And then you feel weird, and it's wild. That's great. And that's why we do drugs.

Dan (01:07:35.000)

And some studies have been done that I was I was skimming over. And one of the things that is bizarre about this phenomenon with the synesthesia, like experiences you can have is that they're not consistent. So like, obviously, it doesn't happen for everybody. And it doesn't happen consistently for people. But even beyond that, the identical stimuli don't create identical results in people. And so that is like a really weird, it's so individual. That's kind of to be expected, because it's basically you. Yeah, it's an experience that your senses are having. And, of course, it would be colored by your expectations and some signals that are going share pinging around. Yeah. And then there are some anecdotal stories about people having like shared hallucinations and like, I don't know, it's really hard to confirm that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know, like people have said they've had dreams where they are in each other's dreams. Often, like, I may be

Jordan (01:08:41.000)

cool, right? Cool. Have fun with that. Yeah, I know, I'm not gonna build a worldview around. Yeah,

Dan (01:08:47.000)

we're gonna need to first of all, find a way to ever make this confirm. Oh, totally. And I don't know

Jordan (01:08:53.000)

what that looks like. We create a person who can jump into everybody's dreams,

Dan (01:08:56.000)

writing down things in a notebook or whatever is not going to do it. It's not it's not fully good enough. And then second, it since Alex has been completely unspecific about whatever, these mystery secret studies that some source gave him, which is obviously probably meant to be stumbled by him. Yeah. But since there are secret studies that he has not produced, and no one has, I don't know what the fuck is talking about. So I can I can only bring reality into this a little. I think the synesthesia part of of what he's maybe talking about is kind of interesting. It's very interesting, but also his inability to understand what Echolocation is is funny.

Jordan (01:09:34.000)

Yeah, I mean, that one is that was very clear. That was very clear that he is not talking about synesthesia. He is like, see, bats can see through the lasers in their sound, but I

Dan (01:09:46.000)

would bet that the misunderstanding and the lie that he's created out of this comes from that current diagram of the bat shirt and some headline about like synesthesia type experiences that people have Have on LSD. And these just combined them into a story that he's Yeah, that sounds right. He's trying to tell to make himself seem more interesting to this maybe younger audience that likes growth

Jordan (01:10:08.000)

it is. It is fun to like, speculate on the genesis of certain ideas that you know, are mashups. Like I know those are mash ups. Sir. I'm just trying to figure out which specific matchups you have chosen this duck. Yeah, because those are not real.

Dan (01:10:24.000)

So Alex has a lot of callers. And one of the things that they're focusing on with the calls is stock leadership, baby. Sure. Who are you going to drop Nolan? DeSantis RFK Jr. No one who are into no one is Cassie looking these days? Not good. One of the things that I will say is, it does feel like the love affair with Trump is pretty much over with Alex's audience. There's some pretty harsh words for for Trump about time. Yeah. Also seems like no love for DeSantis. So no, like, he sucks, too.

Jordan (01:11:01.000)

He might be. I think somebody might actually bring him up on kidnapping charges. Because he's kidnapping people. It'd be interesting. I think that is kidnapping people.

Dan (01:11:12.000)

It would be pretty weird if the two front runner Republican

Jordan (01:11:17.000)

prison. They were both in prison. And no one would even think that was weird on the right. They'd be like, well, they just put our people in prison. Not that we attract people who commit crimes all the time. It's probably

Dan (01:11:28.000)

a coincidence. That's totally coincidence. So yeah, I guess maybe they'll all change their party affiliation to Democrat so they can vote in primaries.

Jordan (01:11:36.000)

Where do you I swear to you I was making a joke, but I do remember when we did the will summer interview, and I was like Nikki Haley's got to do it. The more absurd things get the board. I'm like, Dude, if she speaks well, when

Dan (01:11:52.000)

I mean, if the Trump presidency, then we have a power vacuum that gets filled by who's

Jordan (01:12:01.000)

not gonna be pence. He's the guy who's about to be hanged last year. Jeb Bush. Nope. You wish you clients. You said Please clap. It was all

Dan (01:12:10.000)

over. He comes back. But as like, like a dark Jeb Bush. Oh, it is.

Jordan (01:12:15.000)

It is legitimately at the end of the day, the only person that's not insane, that nobody really hates or wants to hang. Nikki Haley.

Dan (01:12:24.000)

Now let's let's be I think Tulsi also has a potential path there. Sure. She has a contingent of people who are interested in her. Sure. You know, there could be some other weirdos that come out of the woodwork?

Jordan (01:12:39.000)

Yeah, I don't know. It's it's a year away. I don't I strongly believe that we shouldn't care until then.

Dan (01:12:45.000)

But they care on the calls. They do. Yeah. Trump no good. Santos, no good. wishy washy feelings about RFK. mostly positive. Mostly. Just just Vance. He just the problem with him is that he's not anti abortion. Right. And he's not. He supports gun rights and the second amendment but not enough. Right. Right. That's kind of the where he's at. It's interesting to me,

Jordan (01:13:07.000)

because I don't think they know either. I think they I think the audience is something of a Plinko board, in the sense of like, there's a lot of stuff that gets dropped in there, you know, like, oh, what's the thing that's going to make them hate somebody and man, vaccines got to the bottom of the Plinko board, you know, like they're so antivax Yeah,

Dan (01:13:26.000)

but I think it's been there a long time. Sure. I think it's been at the bottom of that board for quite a while. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And there's there's some, you know, some theories about why that is the case. But I'm not sure. I'm not sure why. It's one thing is, it's a pretty powerful, scary thing. Sure. Because most people who come to it probably were vaccinated as kids, right. And so they're like, this was done to me against my will. And it allows you to reclaim some kind of a narrative over your life, negative things that have happened, challenges that you've had, maybe it's because you're vaccinated, or something. And then also, it's super scary raising a child, you know, in the world, there's a lot of threats, there's a lot of things they have to worry about protecting your kid from true and taking some power with, like, the choice of not vaccinating is something that I think maybe gives the appearance of control in a world that's like chaotic.

Jordan (01:14:27.000)

Yeah, I mean, you know, we went through a two year long pandemic, and I want to say, despite their anti Vaxxer re most people's goal, in fact, I would argue almost everybody's goal is to not do that again, you know, not do another two years thing. The problem is they believe that the anti Vax is what keeps that from happening. Yes, that's why everybody's insane.

Dan (01:14:50.000)

It is. It is. It is a problem. Yeah. And it will be more of a problem if RFK Jr is predicated a huge problem for us all. Yes, but Alex believes that What happened because he's probably gonna get killed. Sure.

Alex Jones (01:15:02.000)

And they're all playing politics but to irrevocably as a as Democrat party loyalty, as close as you get towards the Kennedys, the most popular Democratic president ever hands down to have to have, you know, the science of that family literally come out against the neural water on every front is just, it's it's devastating. I mean, there's no way he ever walks us back as the point. So I think he's had a transformation, I think he's having a transformation. A lot of other people are having transformations doesn't mean I trust him. Because when somebody's got a tail on him, they'll have passed, that is not completely trustworthy. We don't ever turn our back on him. But I gotta say, it's very exciting what he's doing. And I have a good feeling about Robert Kennedy Jr. That I mean, I go with my gut, at the end of the day, I have a good feeling about it.

Caller 1 (815) (01:15:50.000)

Well, I'm pleased that he's opening so many eyes to the thing, you know, I'm concerned about our elected officials. They're not doing anything about the World Economic Forum or Debian.

Alex Jones (01:16:03.000)

But I think we're gonna know Robert Kennedy, Jr. is really gonna kill him. And by the way, we've talked to sources very close to him. He told the story yesterday by talking to the campaign manager, his longtime friends with Dennis percentage. And he said, Yeah, we'll probably come up here and speak in Kingston, New York, but he wants to be indoors. We're getting a lot of you know, threats. So I mean, believe me, he can charge anything else.

Dan (01:16:24.000)

Is he the scion of the Kennedy family at this point? I don't know if he is. I thought he was kind of like Alex was telling him as an outsider. Yeah, Kennedy family. That's what gave him the credibility and now he's the

Jordan (01:16:37.000)

now he's the Prince Harry of the Kennedy family. You know, he's he's no longer accepted into the fold accepted.

Dan (01:16:44.000)

Party. We do know who, what writer then you think oh, Prince Harry married, Megan Markel from suits. Junior married. Cheryl, hi. I Curb Your Enthusiasm. You

Jordan (01:16:57.000)

don't even know how to deal with life. Man even know how to deal with life

Dan (01:17:02.000)

blow and minds. We're on a shared Ayahuasca trip.

Jordan (01:17:05.000)

Here's what I think. Okay. I don't think you need to kill any more candidates. And there's a simple reason why I don't think it works. You've already got two down and it didn't do you that much. Good.

Dan (01:17:16.000)

I mean, I think we could take a step back and just say it's wrong first, but also Sure,

Jordan (01:17:19.000)

sure. No, I mean, I feel like that should go on is that if you clear the

Dan (01:17:23.000)

hurdle of morality,

Jordan (01:17:25.000)

it still doesn't work. Yeah, right. Strategy. Yes, exactly.

Dan (01:17:30.000)

Yeah, I don't think anyone's too worried about him. No, I would guess based on poll numbers. No one would

Jordan (01:17:39.000)

I just Yeah, I just don't know anymore. I just don't mean either.

Alex Jones (01:17:45.000)

I always had a revelation. I'm about to go to your phone calls here in just a moment. But I want to say something at the Charlotte next segment about Trump and suppose in 3d Chess. me write a note to do that, because I cover Trump three times not really important. And I didn't really have an epiphany, but I kind of did. I've kind of said this before, but I want to add something to it. So that's that. That's coming up. Very important.

Dan (01:18:11.000)

So important. I got very excited about this, but it's underwhelming, but yet another epiphany. Yeah, also something that coke people don't do. Yeah, epiphanies? No, no,

Jordan (01:18:19.000)

not a Hey, guy. I just had this crazy idea. Right

Dan (01:18:22.000)

right now, right. Okay. But and it's very important.

Jordan (01:18:25.000)

I've been thinking about it for a long time. Now, I just had it, but I've been thinking about it for a long time. It's kind of the culmination of a lot of different thoughts that I've had. So maybe it's not the first idea that I've had, but I mean, this is a

Dan (01:18:35.000)

good one. Yeah. Also, it's fun. It wasn't five d chests like this. Hey, want to

Jordan (01:18:38.000)

say that? Yeah. You're right. It's just chess, chess.

Dan (01:18:43.000)

So here's where we get into this.

Alex Jones (01:18:46.000)

But I share before I go to your calls, that I was going to talk about something really important. Now, Trump said in an interview when he was running for President, in 2016, now, six and a half years ago, that the deepest thing in his life, the deepest thing he ever learned, was how to be shallow. Now, that is such a Zen masters, oh

Jordan (01:19:13.000)

my God.

Alex Jones (01:19:16.000)

Because you have all these genetics, all these instincts, your spirit, you have all your ancestors, you have all this composite information. You have all your learned knowledge in this body suit. And your first approximation, all the studies, all the research, women's intuition, all of it is almost always the right way to go. Show but Trump put it in the perfect idiot savant way. The deepest thing I ever learned was how to be shallow. But he called join with his first instinct. He went on to elaborate, you know, the first thing I think is almost always right. No, it's always right. You just might interpret what you're saying. Right hooked into your instinct in 6/3 dimension spirits above that what you have it you have a manifestation dimension word enough you can be drugged down into the lower and that's just the human cosmology for it but the mathematics is shown it's it's accurate, me sideways the mathematics of being drugged

Jordan (01:20:19.000)

down as a matter of mathematics, the mathematics of being drugged down another dimension the study is the research women's intuition at all. What mathematics is that non Euclidean geometry? Or

Dan (01:20:31.000)

I guess if Alex were forced to answer they just say something about Max Planck and then move on or something? Sure. I don't know. Yeah, I have in my notes here. No comment. I just don't even know what to do with this. I also don't know if like, I don't know what Trump quote he's talking about. I know, we have heard him say that a lot to the point where I've just accepted that Trump said it. Yeah. But I don't know where that's from. I tried to look for like, the deepest thing I ever learned was to be shallow Trump and whatever. And like, I don't know where that's from. Oh,

Jordan (01:21:06.000)

I mean, I assume it's something it sounds like something he would have said, Sure. It sounds like one of those things that dumb people say that sound smart. And I like ah, yeah. See, this thing I've ever learned as dumb, right? I've learned that to do the opposite of the two things and then make it sound like they're the different thing. And that's the same thing. And that's Zen to me.

Dan (01:21:24.000)

And now Alex is interpreted this as following your instinct is always right. And your soul is on another level and you have manifestations on each of these levels. Eight, it is easy to can drag you down. It is easy

Jordan (01:21:38.000)

to see why communication is so difficult. Whenever that's what you get out of a lunatic billionaire con man psychopaths saying something stupid is like, yeah, trust your instincts. Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right, man,

Dan (01:21:53.000)

the spirit world mathematics have told me this. Hey, the location. All

Jordan (01:21:58.000)

right. I don't know how to speak to you. If that's what you're going to take away from the things that I say? Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. What do I say to you that you won't turn into like, oh, yeah, I gotta eat more on Fridays. Like, what does that mean?

Dan (01:22:12.000)

Well, follow your instincts. Oh, that's a good call. Yeah, do the math. All right.

Alex Jones (01:22:17.000)

So the caller said, I liked Trump. He's totally for real, even though he's a buffoon, sometimes, especially a bull in a china shop. He's not a criminal. He actually cares about the country. Totally true. And he's pigheaded with us on the shots. He's pigheaded with them and everything else they want. So he was actually the president he tried to be that's why they got so upset was they were ruling through consensus and boards and levels bodies. So that's really where I'm at with Trump is that they claim he's playing 3d 4d Chess. No, he's not. You claim that you think of he's consciously looking at 1000s of points of integrated information, and then coming up with some sophisticated move. 10 points ahead. You see, that's what the subconscious and unconscious mind hooked into the spirit is is the tindy chess. Gods up there. 20. So, yeah, that's going on, but you don't control it. Your conscious brain just needs to go. Like you're an F 16 pilot, it says missiles locked. You're not firing out radar scans and missile lock systems of the avionics. You just know it goes missile lock, aim nine Sidewinder missile to kill, you know that that's what you've just done. But you're not the whole jet, the avionics, everything that went to build that, to fuel it to train it to launch it. You just know when it goes. Lock lock lock that you're on. And so that's what that is like, John.

Jordan (01:23:44.000)

I don't know what that is. I do not know what that is. Which dimension

Dan (01:23:49.000)

get a sense of what he's talking about,

Unknown Speaker (01:23:51.000)

I suppose. Yes.

Dan (01:23:53.000)

I know, the general area of what he's saying. Right? That, again,

Jordan (01:23:58.000)

I still think is trust your instincts.

Dan (01:24:00.000)

I do, too. That's also it's somewhere close to that thing you hear from like creative types. It's like when you're in the flow. Sure, sure. You know, it feels like something is coming through you and you're like writing.

Jordan (01:24:13.000)

Like, I feel like it's a little generous, but I do know what you're saying. But that's like

Dan (01:24:17.000)

being in that that moment of just automatic. It's intuitive, and you know, just like write something within you is

Jordan (01:24:25.000)

rare, right? That's, that's the area I'm hearing you are watching and participating in yourself doing something that you're not aware that you can do, in a sense,

Dan (01:24:36.000)

sort of Yeah, I mean, we both can agree because it's a ballpark. Yeah, yeah. times 12

Jordan (01:24:44.000)

I just want to know like, which dimension between five and 12 is like the most comfortable who you know,

Dan (01:24:53.000)

well. It's got to be eight. It's a pillow Demetri cozy as hell Oh,

Jordan (01:25:00.000)

no, no, no, you don't understand. That's the my pillow dimension. You don't want to be in that one. Actually,

Dan (01:25:05.000)

I don't know if those are good pillows, but he's there.

Jordan (01:25:08.000)

Oh, it's bad. Hands out the pillows personally to everybody who goes to the eighth dimension, they have to go up to him and he says, Hi, it's terrible. Even the best pillows. Even the best pillows can't make up for bike Liddell. No, no, no. I mean, you don't want to be at 12 D because you don't know what God's up to. Right. And you don't want to be prepared to do that.

Dan (01:25:25.000)

Quite frankly, I imagine that the you know, being on par with God would be heavy.

Jordan (01:25:32.000)

So many responsibilities. Yeah. On the 10th dimension. Everybody's fucking playing chess all the time. Well, that seems to be where Trump is

Dan (01:25:39.000)

or something. Wow. Oh, no, no, no, no,

Jordan (01:25:43.000)

I'm gonna have to go with seven. I feel like seven is the right place to go.

Dan (01:25:47.000)

Oh, bad choice. Oh, no new dimension.

Jordan (01:25:50.000)

Do I become fun? Do Oh, do I have to only eat? Okay, two kinds of cheese and chocolate or just a cheese

Dan (01:25:57.000)

of course, but also all kinds of other things. Oh, but I can't eat those. Hey, can Oh, I can't sour cream fondue. But only fondue. Yeah. Sour cream fountain. All right. Okay, dip things.

Jordan (01:26:08.000)

What do I what do I have? What are my dipping options?

Dan (01:26:12.000)

Huh? That I mean, I feel like you have free will.

Jordan (01:26:18.000)

So I can I can eat anything I want. As long as I find do it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That doesn't sound like a bad bag. I I'm gonna stick with my choice. I'm gonna stick with seven. Yeah. Do it's not that bad to do for the rest of eternity. You know?

Dan (01:26:33.000)

It's constant fun doing like, you can't clean the pot.

Jordan (01:26:38.000)

Now you're getting into dangerous territory. It's not magic. Now. Everybody has a lot of digestive issues. The seventh dimension?

Dan (01:26:47.000)

Yeah. Well, I'm not good at improv.

Jordan (01:26:55.000)

What it says is that old What if comedy beg beg options?

Dan (01:26:58.000)

So look, they hate Trump because he could flow because he was in that higher dimension thing.

Alex Jones (01:27:04.000)

Okay. And so that's why they hate Trump. Because yeah, he knew what he felt like. And what he thought was best and most time it totally screwed him up, because they had planned responses that someone in the system would would would would respond to, which was already pre programmed at actuary. So they knew how to react to someone operating from the program matrix. But because Trump's operating off of his Spirit, His instincts even though he's got a flawed template he's operating off of it's still so much more advanced in their operation, that they go this guy is just an unstoppable that's why in all their lawsuits against me, they're like, give us the secret data, the intelligence agency programming you let us know who's funding you let us know who comes up with all this. We know you've got somebody telling what to do. They cannot understand that like Luke Skywalker, I've turned off the targeting computer that just blew up the Deathstar. Because what God gave me is way more powerful than this technological junk that used to turn worship all day that just simply templates what we already are. The AI doesn't do anything, steals it plagiarizes and we all look at so incredible, because it's showing us ourselves back. We are incredible. So that is my message to everybody to understand that Trump is not intellectual. He has his ideas. He has his gut. He has his beliefs about what's right, and what's fair and business. But notice the Chinese would meet with him whenever he wanted. He was able to meet you, sir. Well, he was right now he's up. I'll fly to you. Because they recognize okay, this guy is in charge. GGP is a dictator and evil. He respects himself, though he climbed up from nothing betrayed his own family to a death camp to be in charge. Plus a member of the party. He respects his power, he's in charge. That's why he totally shut down big tech in China. And they kicked Trump out and stole the election. He said at a big event. Two years ago to the Communist Chinese. We got to take over big tech. They're out of control. We're done. They want to do this to us. They're not doing to us. Well, they need to Trump but they actually respected they were talking to the boss. They won't meet with Biden are representative now. They will meet with her defense because they know they're like, hey, we want to meet with Larry Fink. We want to meet with Elon Musk want to meet with Bill Gates. We want to meet with Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger. We don't want to meet with Biden,

Dan (01:29:27.000)

this is all really stupid and can only exist as a fun game for Alex to find some way to like maybe continue supporting Trump or at least feel good about himself while his audience turns on. So he doesn't go down with Trump, basically. But a you know, isn't idiot, Trump's an idiot, but it's just because he's so smart that he doesn't think about things. Can you grasp it with your tiny brain? Maybe you should think about the smartest thing that he ever learned was how to be stupid, right? Think about it less and it'll make sense it'll become the most thing also, she met with Biden on November 14 2022, and barley. I don't know what I was just talking. I just made up

Jordan (01:30:07.000)

it even in his in his cosmology though that shouldn't be a sign of good, right. Like, no, no, because

Dan (01:30:15.000)

it belies Alex's, like real world view all being about an obsession with power. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because strongman dictators are kind of like, you know, hey, yeah, they're they're brutal and they're off. It's the same thing with like Stalin and Hitler were totally kind of thing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You can't get around that. Yeah. If you're

Jordan (01:30:35.000)

if your enemy who ostensibly does not have your best interests in mind, as Alex has described, she is interested in talking to people, that means that he is interested for his benefit, and not yours, you'd think so. So if he's not interested in talking to somebody see, this is one of those situations where in a antagonistic relationship is in in essence, proof of a positive person, you know what I'm saying?

Dan (01:31:05.000)

Well, you'd think that except for if you want to try and recontextualize it as she was only interested in talking with Trump, because he was so confident of Trump's power, that he needed to placate him in some way in order to pursue his own interests. Right. That's probably the way Alex would get around, I suppose. Little, little silly. So anyway, I didn't learn anything about what Alex's ideas about chess are.

Jordan (01:31:29.000)

It's true. What his

Dan (01:31:30.000)

big revelation was,

Jordan (01:31:32.000)

I did think he had an interesting thing that he almost got, right, which is that Trump, one of his most successful things was chaos. Yes. People not knowing what it was that he was about to do next. That is true. That is one of the most successful strategies that he applied. Yeah, you know, and it works.

Dan (01:31:50.000)

Yeah. Yeah. And another one caller brings up I don't think I have a clip of it, but he has like a brings up that like, Trump does a total difference between candidate Trump and the president. Yeah, he didn't do any of the shit that he said he was gonna do. He's just a good marketer, and all this stuff. And it was just sitting there listening that I'm like, Ah, it's how Alex describes every candidate. Yeah, you know, there is the disillusionment that comes with, you know, the first time you care about a presidential campaign. Totally, you realize that the promises that are made in a campaign aren't necessarily possible even to be followed up on, and it's fun to see Infowars and Alex having this political realization that most people have when they're 17. Yeah. It's kind of nice to see them struggling with that disillusionment of Trump. Yeah, there

Jordan (01:32:41.000)

was there was a very short period of time, you know, I had I, we had a great few months where Obama was elected, and we're all like, ah, and then he appointed his cabinet, and you're like, oh, fuck, it's all over shit.

Dan (01:32:55.000)

It's, yeah, cuz I think our generation or at least you and I, our age, probably became politically aware during Bush's presidency. Yep. All right, actually, you know, I think maybe even Bill Clinton, but he was already an office. Yeah. And so you don't really have idealistic ideas necessarily about Bush coming in, or Bush getting reelected. So the first opportunity to be really kind of disappointed with the concrete facts of how the government goes even when you have the person in that you wanted. Right, you know? Yeah, that was an eight. You get it. Yeah. Yeah.

Jordan (01:33:30.000)

We lived through it.

Dan (01:33:31.000)

Yeah. Yep. Welcome to the party. Yeah, no, kid.

Jordan (01:33:36.000)

Oh, system. Yeah.

Dan (01:33:39.000)

Six more calls. And this guy worried me.

Alex Jones (01:33:43.000)

Right now. Let's go back to your phone calls. Darrell in Missouri. Thanks for calling. Thanks for holding, you're on the air.

Caller 2 (815) (01:33:48.000)

So much for taking the call on. I want to answer your questions on Kennedy, Elan, yesterday, Kennedy was really good on guns and that people feel that the Constitution are under attack. And that's exactly how I feel and people that love America and American dream and everything. I was targeted by the ADL I wrote a religious exemption on July 14 2022. It's still on my Facebook. And it was a religious exemption by me and my wife and our beliefs are Amish and Mennonite neighbors live is separatist, and have their beliefs. And I'm in Title I heard you say you're allowed to be anti Semite the other day and if you don't like it well, and I'm not an anti Semite. I'm accused of that because I believe the vaccination thing and he's on a first name basis with Tulsi I predict that'll be his running mate. And, you know, he's got to come out and say, abortion is not healthcare. I think DeSantis is susceptible to the deep state does connections. Eric Greitens. These young leaders, you want to talk about leaders.

Dan (01:34:52.000)

So this guy later identifies himself as Darrell McClanahan. So I'm fine saying his name. Yeah. These guys who were At a failed run for the Senate of 2022. He's not called an anti Semite because he's opposed to vaccines. It's because he attends a Christian identity church. He has been a card carrying member of the League of the South since as recently as 2019. And he was an attendee of the unite the right rally. Well, beyond that, the ADL reported on his VK social media account that's just littered with racist and Nazi imagery. Great. One of the images they found he posted was covered in swastikas and was promoting the Christian National Socialist Party. Another one was a totin comp, with a message underneath saying, quote, The only good homosexual is a dead homosexual. They also found an image of him doing a Heil Hitler salute standing next to a guy in a full Klan uniform in front of a burning cross.

Jordan (01:35:45.000)

Well, he's not an anti Semite, but they call him why

Dan (01:35:48.000)

they call them well, just because he wants to not get vaccinated just

Jordan (01:35:51.000)

because you when you say Heil Hitler in front of a burning cross, people suddenly think you said gotta say,

Dan (01:35:58.000)

I don't know what he said. Okay, picture. Salute. Apologies, Darrell is running an independent writing campaign and I would like for you to guess how many votes he got 17. One.

Jordan (01:36:12.000)

couldn't even get the family on board. couldn't even get them mad.

Dan (01:36:18.000)

Ironically, ironically, yeah, there was another write in candidate and they got zero. And that makes me think that maybe they'd given up Yeah. Or they were classy as hell and voted for someone

Jordan (01:36:29.000)

you're not going to vote for themselves is not against the rules tack.

Dan (01:36:33.000)

Voting is private. Absolutely. Yes. This guy definitely voted. Which is pretty cool. Oh, boy. So it appears this flagrant bigot is running for governor of Missouri in 2024. And I predict to get the same amount of votes. Yeah, that

Jordan (01:36:47.000)

sounds right. Well, I mean, there's, you know, I would almost say there's only one way to go. But since there was a write in candidate who got zero, you could still lose by more if What if he breaks his leg on the way to go vote and he can't vote? Yeah, he gets zero vote. It's

Dan (01:37:03.000)

possible. Yeah. Brutal. Or if he has a terrible like moment where he realizes that another candidate better encapsulates his values.

Jordan (01:37:12.000)

Oh, man, I just hope this guy wins.

Dan (01:37:16.000)

So Alex says, listen to this guy. He's like, Well, they called me an anti Semite. He's like, might want to ask a follow up question on this one. And so he does and Alex gets a little worried.

Alex Jones (01:37:27.000)

What is it what tells you what the ADL says about you?

Caller 3 (815) (01:37:31.000)

They have a picture of me at a at a cross lighting they have a picture of the lighting and posted around of me. I was advocating for Jacob good when he was a Charlottesville defendant who was overcharged certainly he deserved a year in jail or something. I have my Christian beliefs and they

Alex Jones (01:37:52.000)

argue is I mean let's you have a right to be but are you in the cake? Okay.

Caller 3 (815) (01:37:56.000)

No, I am not and they are portraying me as that I am and I was never a member they don't like me they don't like me because I've always spoke against

Alex Jones (01:38:06.000)

kk k cross burning half the people there Feds radio or Southern Poverty Law Center. So but that means social, but there was a real photo of you in a kicking game. Cross burning

Caller 3 (815) (01:38:16.000)

my name while you're talking to me, Darryl McClanahan, ADL

Caller 1 (815) (01:38:21.000)

da

Alex Jones (01:38:23.000)

I'm gonna remote studio I'm just asking you about it. Look, if a journalist goes and covers one of those things, are they a bad person? It doesn't matter. The point is is the left is just as bad as the kk k with all the racist garbage and burning things down all this crap.

Jordan (01:38:37.000)

Save. Yeah, yeah.

Dan (01:38:38.000)

So Alex realizes he's talking to someone who is. I mean, Alex doesn't even know the Hitler salute that was going on next to the fully robed Klan member in front of the cross lightnings event, the cross lighting, and he's even getting a little bit worried. You know, tell like he's like, are you actually in the clan? Man? Oh,

Jordan (01:38:57.000)

if if Alex is willing to call it a cross burning and you're not you're in the clan? Yeah, you're in the clan.

Dan (01:39:04.000)

So yeah, Alex, I think he realizes like, all right, this guy's probably is fucked up and probably a bigot. So what I'm gonna have to do is a like, everyone, there's a Fed, you know, like, he has totally he has to delegitimize the very idea of cross burning, right. You know, they're all just, it's all right to people there.

Jordan (01:39:21.000)

But like, this guy does not understand that by calling it across lighting. He is revealing himself to almost exclusively Have you met Klan friends, right? If you use the terminology that they use, because in response to the fact that it sounds real bad if you call it cross burning. Yeah.

Dan (01:39:40.000)

I don't know if it's specifically what they use. I don't know all of their lingo. Not calling it a cross burning is a choice. It's a choice and tells me about

Jordan (01:39:50.000)

it's not a hard choice to make you just call it a cross burning. Yeah.

Dan (01:39:54.000)

Aleksa D legitimizes the idea of the clam as a whole

Alex Jones (01:39:57.000)

again, I'm just trying to understand what the specifically did to you. And so you're sending out an article about you because you're saying you want a right to be left alone from their shots.

Caller 3 (815) (01:40:08.000)

Yes. That's one. Read my exemption. It's posted on my twitter Missouri battle flag.

Alex Jones (01:40:17.000)

I will, I will, I will. And I appreciate your call. We got four minutes, we got to get to the rest of the callers we'll never get to everybody who will say he just centered that guy because he's a good white Patriot unknown, the guy got more time to other callers. That was the next person anything that

Alex Jones (01:40:36.000)

I would never go to an ADL meeting. And if you go to a kickoff meeting here at ADL meeting, they run the whole thing. I mean, literally the Grand Dragon columns them just give me a break, man. Let's go ahead and talk to you, John. In Kansas, you're on the air go ahead. very defensive.

Jordan (01:40:53.000)

You know, that's, that's, that's Alex's weird backwards strategy to defeat racism. Yeah, all of your groups where you go to learn about being a better Nazi. They're run by the ADL, you shouldn't go there. Stay home. Don't go hang out with other Nazis. Stay home, read books, create your own nuts. Yeah, boy. But if you create your own Nazi cell, you have to join the ADL. That's the that's the crazy thing about it.

Dan (01:41:23.000)

It sounds to get you It's so weird. So Alex takes another call and this guy is going well. And then the guy turns on.

Caller 3 (815) (01:41:31.000)

Oh, yo, how're you all doing? Yeah, I just want to say there was something very, very troubling with the RFK Jr, Elon Musk discussion. They kept referring to our Republic as a democracy over and over again. And I see this trend.

Alex Jones (01:41:48.000)

National Republic, a little D democracy. In a democracy, the majority could kill the 49%. In a republic, their basic rights to protect the minority. You're absolutely right.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:59.000)

That's correct. And if you watch that video, not one time to either one of them referred to as constitutional republic, and

Alex Jones (01:42:07.000)

I'm glad you call when I ended up listening to most of it last night only part was a part of it during the show because we were live. He was like a religious mantra. democracy, democracy, democracy. We're not a democracy. We're a republic. Sorry. Go ahead. Make your point.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:22.000)

Yes, this is correct. And what they're doing is they're after the children all right, they find a hammer home that these things into the children's so that they forget the rights that they will give them by God. When you have a constitutional republic. You got to be killed, man, you got to kill everybody to kill. When you have a democracy, you can just have mob rules, man, and it's over. And then just one more quick point I like to make a crowd are you pumping a whole walk your own damn dog? What are you doing? You're pregnant wife that big, massive comeback.

Alex Jones (01:42:54.000)

So I don't know what that guy's talking about. But yeah, you did. Right. He didn't.

Jordan (01:43:01.000)

You know exactly what.

Alex Jones (01:43:03.000)

Take another caller.

Dan (01:43:06.000)

Talking about

Jordan (01:43:08.000)

oops. That's why it's tough to co mingle. Infowars audiences.

Dan (01:43:16.000)

Boy, yep. Not a fan. Oh, brother yelling at his pregnant wife.

Jordan (01:43:23.000)

I am. I am. I'm a little bit gobsmacked by that.

Dan (01:43:27.000)

Yep. I was surprised. Yep. Yep. Yep. You have somebody who seems to be quite politically on board with Alexander also offended by the way Steven Crowder, treated and says no ex wife that so there's a lot of cognitive dissonance there. So strange cat, it's tough to live like that. It must be. Yeah. So the rest of the episode takes on a bit of a character that I wasn't expecting. And I think that we all kind of have understood the strategy and how it will evolve. As as things have gone along. For instance, the rolling back of Roe v. Wade, and attacking of trans people's rights. These are things that are bad in and of themselves, but also belie what are the next things that the the conservative movement, for lack of a better word is going to do. It's going to escalate, there's going to be continuing rollback of progress and rights that people have fought for over the years. Yeah. And particularly, you could tell that rights just generally for homosexual existence. Yeah, we're going to be under attack. Yeah, absolutely. The right to marry obviously, is one of those battle fronts. But if you're going based on the rhetoric that's flying around on Infowars right now, the goal that Alex and his army and seem to be interested in is outlawing being gay. Yeah. And that becomes something that callers are espousing. And Alex is on board with, which is unbelievable.

Alex Jones (01:45:12.000)

Thank you for calling. I'm giving your time to the next person. Keith in Texas. You're on the air. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:17.000)

Thank you, Mr. Jones for taking my call. Can you hear me okay?

Alex Jones (01:45:21.000)

I can welcome.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:24.000)

If it wasn't for you, I'd probably be dead today because of we've gotten one of those real vaccines. I take some of your supplements and with my wife, and I just want to start off where somebody left off on Elon Musk. He's a Satanist hiding in plain sight. Last year, he was seen with a samurai suit on blush and boss with goat's heads and upside down crosses. samurais don't wear those but Satanists do. Trump, Kennedy and DeSantis are birds of a feather flock together. And this won't be turned around unless we get the government to repeal government impose legalized homosexuality in America because it wasn't legal for 183 years, when it was first legalized, and I can't deny. That's just a few of the things I'd like to see turned around this country. But you're doing a good thing. In all your staff there, you guys are doing a really good job. And I hope you can keep pushing on it a big jackpot in the lottery, we'll send you even more money. God bless. Take care.

Alex Jones (01:46:37.000)

Hey, Steve, I really appreciate you. I'm gonna say something because it's the right thing to say. I've been a Christian, a populace.

Dan (01:46:45.000)

So at that point, when Alex says, I'm gonna say something because it's the right thing to say. I legitimately thought no, you did not. I legitimately thought he was going to push back what? And be like you that is too far? No way I did. I thought he was going to say,

Jordan (01:47:01.000)

I'm a little disappointed in you.

Dan (01:47:03.000)

I'm disappointed in Alex. I'm not disappointed in myself. Because hope springs eternal. I

Jordan (01:47:08.000)

know. No, I'm not disappointed in you either.

Dan (01:47:10.000)

I think that you hope that someone would be able to recognize what this person is actually in favor of. And I thought Alex with his whole thing of like, let people be, you know, all this, that would be a bridge too far. But I was wrong.

Alex Jones (01:47:30.000)

And I liked libertarian ideas. And I don't hate people, what they do in their bedrooms and their adults. But I'll say this. I mean, I remember learning when I was a teenager, that Texas still had sodomy laws. And they get well, they shouldn't arrest you know, gay people. And then I learned that I'm not supposed to call them homosexuals, even though it's heterosexual, homosexual, to scientific term. And then it's Oh, just let us marry and the now just let us have access to your kids. And now close your son's penis off. And I'm not gonna love all those groups into one group. But there's a reason it's been banned in civilization. Because every time it starts, it takes over if you read in some of the first books of the Bible, I forget which one it's in with the story of Lot Sodom and Gomorrah is is that a Genesis? Or is that the next book,

Dan (01:48:17.000)

biblical scholar over here? Yeah,

Jordan (01:48:19.000)

no kidding. So I mean, I don't I here's why I am blown away by you thinking that fine, is because and I think I think you have the same mistaken impression that I think a lot of people have, how dare you? Which is that? You think now, mainstream Christians would actively say no to that? He is bananas to me. I think a Nana's to me, I

Dan (01:48:47.000)

think a lot would, but maybe I would be disappointed by some number. No, the

Jordan (01:48:52.000)

majority will absolutely be delighted to see homosexuality outlawed, and the ones who won't, we'll be very loud, but the most of them won't say anything. And they'll listen to their pastor say that it was the right thing to do. I am I am telling you as much as everybody wants to believe that we are better than we were the mainstream Christianity movement will love outlawing homosexuality. And I understand that a lot of individuals who aren't will hate it and will be strongly against it. They will say to me right now, no, Jordan, that's not true. And I am telling you right now, that it is well be aware of that.

Dan (01:49:32.000)

I think I think that a lot of churches in general, have fairly conservative politics to them, and have a conservative cultural milieu. And so I think that in terms of that the numbers would be high. Yeah, I think it's something to be worried about. I just I don't know I don't know, I just don't know what you do with a mentality like that. All I'm

Jordan (01:50:05.000)

saying is that if you are LGBTQ, you can trust Christians right now, as long as they don't have any power. And then all of your friends run from them.

Dan (01:50:17.000)

The thing that I think about is, I understand that it's all duplicitous, and it doesn't mean anything. So please take this with a grain of salt. Sure, but conversation surrounding, you know, marriage. That at least is a policy. You know what I mean, I know that it's not, and I know that it is a right, that is being denied people. But at least there is a conversation around it that has the appearance of being about policy. Sure. The idea of making it illegal to be something. Yeah, is it seems so far beyond the pale, even for the amount of like, you know, the place that we're in, but that's,

Jordan (01:51:08.000)

I mean, it's in the book that but that's that's the that's the easy way, it's in the book that you can't be gay, so it is outlawed. It's already outlawed in the Bible. So it's outlawed in the Christian mind,

Dan (01:51:19.000)

I need you to not make this holy about Christianity.

Jordan (01:51:23.000)

I am sorry, I apologize. All religious dominated societies that are dominated by males will inevitably create circumstances wherein they have this type of power over women and people who are minorities.

Dan (01:51:40.000)

I, I understand that history has gone that way.

Jordan (01:51:47.000)

Don't give men power? That's my advice,

Dan (01:51:50.000)

I believe. Yeah. That there is a amount of what you're talking about. That is a very potent motivator and aspect of this. Sure. But I also think that even dealing with it secularly. In that prism, there is still a problem. Yeah, totally. And so I would prefer to look at the problem holistically, and recognize that there is the religious influence, that is going to be an issue. Sure. But even with or without that, there is something that is happening right now. Totally that that. That's larger. Yeah, I guess. Absolutely. And you know, what, here's the here's the issue. Maybe Maybe there is a certain amount of denial that is being sort of taken away. In as much as what the policies that have been enacted, make trans existence and public exam, more or less illegal? Yeah. Why is it any more surprising that Alex would be in favor of laws that would make it illegal to be gay? If it's in it, doesn't it? It shouldn't be surprising, but somehow it is.

Jordan (01:53:15.000)

Yeah. No, I mean, we we cannot ever think of the LGBTQ plus community as a as anything other than all of the letters at once. Any letter is under attack, all of the letters are under attack. That is the truth of the of that.

Dan (01:53:31.000)

And I don't I don't disagree. I don't know exactly what it is. I guess. It just it. I don't know. I don't I don't know why it seems more surprising.

Jordan (01:53:45.000)

Well, because we've had to fight for the letters as if they were individuals. That's the way that it's gone over time. Maybe.

Dan (01:53:53.000)

But I think I maybe I've become desensitized to his anti trans rhetoric, right? And maybe maybe desensitized isn't the right word. But I'm aware of it so much, right? That it doesn't shock me.

Jordan (01:54:10.000)

We've we've thought we've seen the conversation. I know that policy

Dan (01:54:15.000)

for him. Right? This seems different for him. And it seems like a lot of his anti trans rhetoric and stuff is based on a hey, I'm fine with gay people. Yeah, you know, like it he uses that as an excuse for why his hatred is okay over here totally. And to see like neg kind of hate them all. Again, I don't want them all to be allowed to exist absolutely

Jordan (01:54:41.000)

is.

Dan (01:54:42.000)

I guess it's it's it's disappointing. It's unfortunate.

Jordan (01:54:46.000)

I recognize that I do. I just, I suppose I'm I mean, it's entirely possible as as has been pointed out many times. I'm more cynical than then otherwise. A people might have known, but it's it's not changed. I don't understand. I understand why people outside of the communities that I am aware of who are very lovely people that you would never even think about being like, oh, yeah, we should outlaw gay people, they would they would treat you lovely. If you were gay and you came to their house, they would feed you. They would tell him stories from Allah, they would listen to everything mentality that he thinks he embodies. Totally. And they would do that without a heartbeat. Yeah, right. And at the same time, they'll go to church, and they'll be like, Yeah, of course, it's illegal to be gay, right. That's just how the that's how the church works. I understand people think that that's different, because we don't talk about it that way. And they don't talk about it, because they don't have to. It's not in the news every day. Trans rights are in the news every day. So churches talk about trans rights everyday. They don't talk about how they need to outlaw gay people, because that's next. That's not on the agenda yet.

Dan (01:56:00.000)

Right. And when I when I started, when I brought this up, I was saying that, you know, we've been kind of aware of this being part of, you know, the escalatory nature of this. Yeah. And I guess maybe what I'm expressing and the disappointment, maybe that's not even what I'm feeling. Maybe it's just a realization of what I thought was down the road more right is already right here. Yeah, this conversation is already Yes. Comfortable on Infowars. Yeah. And it's something that a caller can espouse. And Alex can say, I need to say this, because it's the right thing to say, Yep. It's fucked up. Yeah. Yep. So I guess it's maybe a disillusionment that we're further down a road then, then. And I? Also, I'm sorry, sorry, the the flip side of it that I even maybe need to wrestle with is not appreciating the attacks on trans people as a enough of an indication of how far we're down the road. Right? Because it does, it did feel like that is a bit down the road. And somehow we're, you know, like, this is still a mile marker that feels beyond and it's not No, and that was that is a realization that I'm having. And I, I'm not happy about Yeah, and I, I need to think about that a little more. But I apologize.

Jordan (01:57:32.000)

Yeah, no, and I apologize for singling out Christianity, that's the only reason that came up is because that's where Alex is coming at this from. That's why it's the right thing to do. He's coming at this from that point of view, if you'd like we can talk about how Islam is absolutely against the LGBT somewhat, but we can fuck around with religion all day,

Dan (01:57:52.000)

all of it. But if you secularize it and read it through that lens, he's still arguing it to the vest is the right thing to do, right? Because it's a slippery slope, right? You allow people to exist, and then they want you to use different words and exam they want to get married, and then they're coming for your kids. Yeah, you know, even that's outside of religion.

Jordan (01:58:11.000)

There's the twin messages of God hates it. And for that, that if that's your deal, go for it. And then there's the message of, well, society will collapse if we allow it right. It's a completely non it's a completely secular message. Right? Yeah. You know, you don't want society to collapse. You might not have anything personal about any of this. But societies where you live, you don't want it to collapse. Yeah. So it's not it's not just one argument, and I totally agree with you.

Dan (01:58:37.000)

It's a lot it may tell us a lot. It's a lot to unpack, you know, of Alex's hatred, what it did, what it's indicative of, in terms of right wing conversation progressing. And it's a lot to unpack about, you know, unconscious biases, that even yourself or myself or aren't guilty of having totally and

Jordan (01:59:01.000)

I know less, it's, it's terrifying.

Dan (01:59:05.000)

So Alex whines about LGBTQ stuff for a little bit and then has nothing to say for a question on a topic you should know something

Alex Jones (01:59:14.000)

about. Gillette and other TV ads tell you that men asking women out is rife. With sexual children. These corporations are sick. They're evil. We're gonna get this network right. Anonymous in Texas. Thank you for holding patiently. You're on the air anonymous.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:30.000)

Thank you for taking my call on everything you've done. Everyone has we have not seen Alice's documentary in game baseball shit. I live in Texas. I want to change my bank. What do you think is the most ethical or lesser evil bank that deserves my business?

Jordan (01:59:45.000)

That's a good question.

Alex Jones (01:59:46.000)

I mean, I'll be honest with you, I have not had time to study all that. I know that. Larry elder is promoting some new bank.

Dan (01:59:55.000)

You're talking about banks all the time. Wow. Central Banking all In the UK, he complaints about the key of all people should have their recommendation. And I'm repeating myself because someone called in and asked this on another show that we've listened to. And Alex had no answer there, too. If I were Alex, and I was presenting myself in the way that he does, and I got that call, and I had no answer, I come up with an answer in case somebody asked again, and he didn't, you know, what, fuck around and just say, like a credit union, I think could be credit union, any credit union is probably

Jordan (02:00:33.000)

I know what you see Isaiah, is that ideologically? Are they opposed to credit unions to? Or is it just because they have the union? I don't know. It's really just a bunch of people putting their money together? I don't know. I don't think it out. And then, you know, it's

Dan (02:00:45.000)

hard. I don't know. But it would seem to be in line with the more decentralized Yeah. aesthetic that Alex aspires toward.

Jordan (02:00:54.000)

I mean, I'm part of my my aunt had a credit union when she was still alive. She was, she was a part of the credit union. And she got me in, and I'm still with that credit union. I'm not leaving a credit. You know, I'm not going to fucking Chase or whatever evil corporations out there.

Dan (02:01:10.000)

Yeah, I regret to say that I bank with. And I was with a credit union where I lived in Missouri, and then it just didn't so inconvenient when I moved here. And I was just like, well, who has ATMs everywhere?

Jordan (02:01:26.000)

That's how that's how anti banks? I am. I was still mailing my checks physically, to Springfield, Illinois. To cash them? Yeah, I'm still gonna I'm banking at that fucking credit union. That's what's happening.

Dan (02:01:40.000)

It's something as as life goes on, maybe I should think about shifting that up. But whatever the case, Alex should have an answer. And that would have been a fine one. Yeah, credit union, not Larry elder has been talking about something

Jordan (02:01:53.000)

that's just an IP. That should be so easy. There's no There's no good major bank there. Banks. That's what they do.

Dan (02:02:00.000)

And Alex should know about that. Yeah. So anyway, the when I brought up the like, the most bit of the rest of the show has to do with this, like idea that, you know, outlawing homosexuality as a conversation. That's fine. Yeah. For Infowars. It's because it comes up more than once.

Caller 3 (815) (02:02:19.000)

I got asked one question real quick. You can answer at the end between Florida and Texas where to go and if it's Texas, where as far as the homosexual agenda. Look, we're, we don't care if people do in their bedrooms, but it is a second death call and they don't get that. See if there's going to be a backlash, and it's all going to go away. The blue hair will go the gay marriage will go you won't be able to do what's being done in public. Because it is being forced on it's being forced on people. And if it was straight people doing it, it would be disgusting. It's just, it's an overt. It's an a vertical.

Dan (02:02:59.000)

Straight people with blue hair is disgusting.

Jordan (02:03:02.000)

I mean, I don't even know. I don't even know where to start with a person who has that list of

Dan (02:03:07.000)

issues. I don't really care either. Except to say that like this is

Jordan (02:03:12.000)

it's totally fine. Yeah, yeah. Speak freely. Yeah. Because somebody wears blue hair, forcing me to know something about their horse to me. Yeah. Forcing me a person who is out there looking at them. Dare they a person who is living their life on their own doing nothing towards me whatsoever? I make the choice to look at them. And then I have to know. Oh, how dare they? Yeah.

Dan (02:03:41.000)

So this episode might be a bit of a bummer. downer ending because we have a sad color. I don't know if they're actually all that sad. But it makes me sad.

Caller 4 (815) (02:03:50.000)

And I think everything was a few weeks ago, you had the animation of Fantasia the Night on Bald Mountain. That is like metaphysically what I see, like we look look out and see a pretty day. But it's like I think so many things are coming to a head. That's the actual secrecy into the spirit realm, but it looks like you know, including like what Harrison was talking about earlier with the two witches what goblins whatever. They were in the person's backyard, you know, chewing on the

Alex Jones (02:04:28.000)

women literally, I've seen the video. It's not saying it's women eating rotten meat. This is how psychotic people are getting.

Caller 1 (815) (02:04:36.000)

Well, you're talking to a woman who's I'm a mother of a daughter that may be engaging in I don't know she's eating beers. But she she and I don't talk because of the spirit within her. I don't know my daughter.

Jordan (02:04:50.000)

Oh, no. Yeah. This is not going to be handled appropriately. That is a bummer. That is a bummer.

Dan (02:04:56.000)

I don't talk to my daughter anymore because of the Spirit. That's In her I don't know if she's eating deer rotten deer meat.

Jordan (02:05:03.000)

Yeah, yeah.

Dan (02:05:04.000)

Some video that Harrison found online that they're mine.

Jordan (02:05:08.000)

I'm going to listen, Alex, I can't talk to my daughter because of the spirit within her. Right. So I'm talking to you for help.

Dan (02:05:17.000)

Yeah. And you know, probably the spirit that's in her is something that is totally normal. Yeah, you could just talk to her might be might be her way of saying that my daughter is. Yep. Is gay yet or possibly it's a mental health thing. And she's just not giving her daughter the the help the daughter needs. It's really it's

Jordan (02:05:44.000)

really dark. That's dark. Yep, yep.

Dan (02:05:47.000)

Who y'all boy? Yeah. So we come to the end of this. And maybe Crowder studio isn't good for Alex. Maybe he should stay on vacation, maybe retire? Like he was talking about? Oh, this sucks.

Jordan (02:06:01.000)

Maybe you should try downers. See how that goes for a while? Well, you did

Dan (02:06:05.000)

notice that towards the end of the show, there was a little bit less speediness. Maybe bail balanced out a little bit. So yeah, I think I think this does not portend Well, now. It doesn't doesn't speak highly of the level of stuff that's to come. Nope. And I don't look forward to that the more normalization of have deeper and deeper narratives of I don't know, man, it's tough. It's real tough.

Jordan (02:06:40.000)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's tough to be

Dan (02:06:43.000)

partially because I don't know how to have a lot of this conversation. And I think that it is very strange to unpack some of that stuff. That legitimately may just be temporal, it might just be time based here, that there's been so much longer of my life that, you know, the right to be gay has been there. Yeah, the entire time that I've been a conscious human. Right, you know, and right. And, you know, trans existence has been something that has been marginalized and threatened my entire life. But the awareness of those issues are more reset, and they are more things that feel like it's a fight that we're still participating in, bringing to a point where there is, is more equality or, you know, it feels like something a battle that is still ongoing. Yeah. As opposed to the situation with the right to be gay. That feels like a closed chapter. Right. And I don't know, there's so many weird feelings mixed up in it.

Jordan (02:07:52.000)

I think we're, we're trapped in a very, you know, a very regular place, which is that we think time is long, you know, you you think, Oh, this has been a settled problem. But Obama wasn't sure if gay people should get married. Right. You know, we thought oh, roe is done, because he had been legal for 50 years. You know, that's not how long these things take. Abortion was legal. Before it was illegal for a length of time. And then they spent years outlawing it. And then we spent years trying to get it back. And then they spent years outlawing it again, it's not it's not settled, until the people who are trying to outlaw it are no longer in power, and are no longer allowed to have poor conceivably

Dan (02:08:40.000)

stop. And that's probably not gonna happen. We realistic I

Jordan (02:08:45.000)

maybe it'll happen. But we are a show that covers a man who is specifically incapable of stopping himself from doing anything true. So it's hard. It's hard from my point of view to look out at the rest of the world and be like, Oh, I bet they'll have a bet though. Right. And up.

Dan (02:08:59.000)

Yeah. Yeah. That's That's true. It's tough. Yeah,

Jordan (02:09:04.000)

it's not long. It's not long. 50 years is a short period of time. Yeah. For REITs. Yeah,

Dan (02:09:11.000)

yeah. Big picture. Yeah. Yeah. But it's also not. Or if it's your whole life, if it's your whole existence,

Jordan (02:09:20.000)

right. Right. Right. You think oh, no, it never it never changed.

Dan (02:09:23.000)

Yeah. And yeah, so there's, there's these I don't know, weird. Weird. On unexamined, I guess biases. Yeah. That exists. And so like, like I said, I don't know if I even I necessarily navigated some of this stuff, as well as I could. Or, you know, what, and I apologize if there's, you know, things that weren't handled gracefully. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So that's, that's all weird. Yeah, it sucks. But hey, the recognition No, this is helpful, in some ways the helps me approach Alex and what he does more appropriately and more, more realistically, and it helps understand like, you know, like you're saying, we thought things are settled and they're not. Yeah, there is there is a need, I think to recognize that across the board, things that are maybe things we take for granted and things that are just normal parts of life, maybe even the entire time we've been alive. Yeah, we are not.

Jordan (02:10:34.000)

I mean, just because things are quiet. Does not mean they're done. Yeah, you know, yeah, it's just It is that kind of thing where we're, we're all very trapped in the, in the conversation of the now you know, what's the topic going on now that you don't even think about? What that's really hiding? You know, the topic now is a trans existence. That's the topic now for us, right? The topic is the same topic as it was 20 years ago. The topic is LGBTQ people exist. That's the topic now. And whatever angle you are taking this time, it's blue hair. This time, it's Carmen kissing this time. It's a trans person. They're all the same. They're all the same attack.

Dan (02:11:21.000)

Yeah, yeah. And I think one of the things too with Alex is that so much of the conversation ends up getting caught up in these culture war things with like, being mad at Target being mad at Bud Light. Yeah. And stuff like that. That is cartoonish. Yeah. But also hateful. Yes. But it also is, like, really, about the goals of stripping back those rights. Yeah. And, um, you know, keeping focused on that, I think is important. Yeah,

Jordan (02:11:54.000)

it does seem like the superficial monstrosity can cover up the fundamental monstrosity.

Dan (02:12:00.000)

Yeah. And the part that really sucks, is I think that that's a lesson we've probably learned before. And sometimes have to keep relearning again and again and again. And that's just because Alex is so good at reading heart lyrics. Yeah, that we get distracted and

Jordan (02:12:16.000)

not learn more about the heart lyrics. Yep, straight on. So we'll be back straight on.

Dan (02:12:21.000)

But I'm gonna go to the past.

Jordan (02:12:23.000)

He has a good time.

Dan (02:12:27.000)

But we'll keep an eye on the present for sure. Because Jugaad shits bad. Got it. So we'll be back. But until then, we have.

Jordan (02:12:35.000)

Indeed we do. It's now try.com.

Dan (02:12:37.000)

We're also on Twitter. We

Jordan (02:12:38.000)

are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight tip.

Dan (02:12:40.000)

We'll be back but until then, I'm Neil. I'm Leo. I'm DCS Clarke. People. Oh, you know what? And now here comes the sex robots.

Alex Jones (02:12:52.000)

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Andy In Kansas (02:12:56.000)

Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.