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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)
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Dan (00:00:58.000)
Hello, everybody welcome acknowledge right I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Jordan (00:01:07.000)
Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan.
Dan (00:01:09.000)
Jordanne quick question for you What's up
Jordan (00:01:12.000)
let your brain spot today buddy.
Dan (00:01:13.000)
Look my bright spot today is not so much a bright spot as it is a shots fired spot shots fired spot Yeah. I'm taking aim at some novelty stuff that I've tried that has been garbage
Jordan (00:01:25.000)
I proposed we call it bright spots fired bright spots fired. There we go. Okay, that is a knockout. Excellent.
Dan (00:01:32.000)
First, Dr. Pepper strawberry and cream. Get out.
Jordan (00:01:36.000)
Not strawberry cream. Why? It
Dan (00:01:39.000)
seemed like it had potential. I mean, you can't not think like maybe I'll try this right? Well, sure. Sure. Strawberries and Cream is an ambitious flavor for a Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper has 31 flavors in it or that's basketball basketball has a lot and I think some of them are like cherry and maybe plum or something like that. Yeah, or what have you. I feel like strawberry is something that could be blended in there right? It's overpowering and not good.
Jordan (00:02:05.000)
I'm going to throw this out. Okay. I have always thought Dr. Pepper should just be Dr. Pepper because I've never thought about what Dr. Pepper was you know like Coke is going to coca leaves or any number of different things you know like a cream soda is a cream soda. Dr. Pepper I don't know what it is.
Dan (00:02:22.000)
Well,
Jordan (00:02:23.000)
it's it's just Dr. Pepper.
Dan (00:02:25.000)
It's this this fella got through his post grad work. Oh yeah. Excited to make sodas. But he came up with a great recipe 11 herbs and spices
Jordan (00:02:38.000)
Yeah, it was that was that Hedberg was Hedberg joke that Mr. Pibb joke
Dan (00:02:42.000)
knows the Dr. Pepper Dr. Pepper tastes more like regular doctor let me do fucked up nobody else Mr. Know who was that? Care remember doesn't even have his degree. Yeah,
Jordan (00:02:54.000)
I don't know Mr. Pibb. Guy. Oh boy. So
Dan (00:02:59.000)
that Dr. Pepper not good. And here's the other thing this applies to this drink. And the next one that I got is you cannot get just one. You have to get like a 12 pack.
Jordan (00:03:10.000)
I mean, I hate to say it but that is how they get you. They get you and it is it is literally how they get
Dan (00:03:16.000)
up with like, okay, now I gotta either drink the rest of these shitty drinks, or I have to, you know, toss them out or like pour them down in the sink so I can recycle the cans or whatever. Yeah, but the second one is Coca Cola move.
Jordan (00:03:28.000)
What move is that milk in Coca Cola?
Dan (00:03:32.000)
No, I don't know what it is. It's some. I imagine it's some sort of like, charity kind of thing or whatever. I don't know what it is. It looked like it had a charitable connection to it. I didn't look too deeply into it. Okay, but I was out with a friend Matt Riggs at the store and grabbed it because it looked different. And what the fuck is moved flavor? I would I'm interested. Yeah, sure. Yeah, he was looking it up on his phone as we were leaving. And he's like, ooh, they say it has hints of tobacco. Not a good side. Nope. Good.
Jordan (00:04:06.000)
It's of tobacco. All right.
Dan (00:04:10.000)
I don't know what liquid tobacco would taste like but it was really more like a like a pungent gasoline coconut.
Jordan (00:04:22.000)
Wow. Yeah, absolutely. Any coconut Coca Cola move is better than Coca Cola tar. You know, I suppose that's yeah, that makes more sense.
Dan (00:04:31.000)
Yeah, sheesh. So okay, new from Coca Cola creations. Taste Coca Cola move, a separate celebration of transformation. The newest drink Coca Cola creations was co created with one of the most daring artists in music today.
Jordan (00:04:49.000)
Wait, why would I give a shit what a music artists thinks about soda.
Dan (00:04:54.000)
It doesn't say who either. It just says Is it is it move is that the bay I feel like an idiot
Jordan (00:05:03.000)
doesn't say is that oh my god, I'm
Dan (00:05:07.000)
now we've looked on the page and the page doesn't even say that it just says the most daring artist.
Jordan (00:05:13.000)
All right, well, I guess that's it. I call the most daring musical artists right now.
Dan (00:05:22.000)
Oh, they're not brave. Whoever you name isn't brave.
Jordan (00:05:27.000)
They're not brave enough to put their name on it. Okay, it
Dan (00:05:29.000)
looks like it's Rosalia. Oh, Rosalia. She's great. Okay. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker (00:05:33.000)
they're really really good.
Dan (00:05:34.000)
I don't know who that is. I don't listen to a lot of music that isn't from 20 years ago. Yeah, that's fair. Old Man applesauce over here.
Jordan (00:05:45.000)
Just sipping on your cottage cheese with the straw and complaining sodas. Like the sodas. They're not like what I was y'all these new?
Dan (00:05:56.000)
I play. Rosa, Lea. Braves
Jordan (00:06:03.000)
Derek sodas. I don't. Here's the problem I have right away. Sure. The way you keep saying Coca Cola move. You know you cannot It doesn't roll off the tongue. Coca Cola move and move doesn't either. No, it's a terrible name. Now.
Dan (00:06:17.000)
I don't know the CANS look nice, though. Well, that's fair. So what's your bright spot?
Jordan (00:06:21.000)
My bright spot is daring. musical artists. No, Brandy younger, just released an album. And as everybody knows younger than who? Well the other brandy the brandy with only one name? Oh,
Dan (00:06:37.000)
boy is mine.
Jordan (00:06:39.000)
Brandy. Okay. Um, like everybody, I listen to a lot of jazz harp. And she happens to be a jazz Harpa virtuoso, and she's put out a jazz Hip Hop fusion album, featuring a shit ton of harp. It's great. Fucking great.
Dan (00:06:55.000)
I can't say you know, sometimes I'll say, check that out. Knocking.
Jordan (00:07:00.000)
Honestly, this was one that you should check out. Sometimes when I give you a recommendation, and you're like, I'll check that out. It's not for you. This one I actually think you would really like. It's really just, I mean, it's just really chill. It's more it's more like a groove than it is like, like bebop dinner. No, I
Dan (00:07:21.000)
would prefer that Bebop. Wow. Okay, fair enough, like chill music because it makes me anxious. That's why I don't like reggae.
Jordan (00:07:29.000)
To chill. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, there's a four four time signature. So you'll still be all right. Okay. Yeah, you'll still be able to jam. All right. Yeah, I might get I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying that eat might be something that you would enjoy. Okay. All right. All right. It's not brand new. It's brand new life.
Dan (00:07:48.000)
Sounds good. So Jordan today, we have got an episode to do. We there are some avenues that were went down for this episode that have been fruitless to Project Camelot, tinkering, cul de sac. And then I got really, really excited about this. There was an episode of The Jim Bakker show about the scourge of DMT. All the kids are doing it.
Jordan (00:08:14.000)
All right. All right. All right, let's okay,
Dan (00:08:18.000)
but I was watching it and I'm like, I don't know. This isn't worth covering. It's worth mentioning here like this. Sure. Sure. Sure. The episode itself isn't really worth covering. And Jim Baker isn't wasn't like in the part that I was watching his other people like mondo della Vega. Okay, the other the team? Yeah, the Zoo Crew. Yeah, planing about all the kids doing DMT.
Jordan (00:08:39.000)
Yeah, you gotta hear the episode has to back up the laugh of just knowing the episode existed, you know, like, if we're not going to do better than Jim Baker's complaining about DMT end of sentence. Yeah, no point. No point.
Dan (00:08:52.000)
Totally. That's where like the courts of Heaven was really like that, that crossed that line, raise the bar beyond the reality of what he's talking about is funnier than the concept, right as the DMT is taking over the country. Not really better than just the name No. So we have an episode we're gonna do where we're in the past. We're gonna be talking about February 4 2004. And there's an important reason okay, because we get an interesting guest right here today and want to want to look into this a little bit. Analyze it.
Jordan (00:09:22.000)
The Dershowitz has dirt showed up in the present and the past simultaneously. Are you a witch? No, no. Okay.
Dan (00:09:28.000)
Not that much of a witch. Okay. But it is someone who is related to a famous person.
Jordan (00:09:35.000)
Or favorite art sweetspot spoiler
Dan (00:09:37.000)
alert. So we'll get down to business on this. But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones.
Jordan (00:09:42.000)
Oh, that's a great idea.
Dan (00:09:43.000)
So first, James, if you're listening, it's not it'll be okay. One day at a time. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:09:49.000)
I'm a policy wonk.
Dan (00:09:50.000)
Thank you very much. i One is not that is that is a recent one because I saw that Kobe and I was like, maybe this is time maybe we need it.
Jordan (00:09:59.000)
But yeah, Up
Dan (00:10:00.000)
next, it took me way too long to realize you're saying banned ba n n Ed and not banned ba n d dot video. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:10:10.000)
I'm a policy wonk, thank
Jordan (00:10:11.000)
you very much.
Dan (00:10:12.000)
I go next Happy Birthday, Rachel. Now you're a walk unless you're already a walk, in which case congrats on being a double walk. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:10:19.000)
I'm a policy wonk, thank
Jordan (00:10:20.000)
you very much. Double Wanke next
Dan (00:10:22.000)
Spartacus from LazyTown. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
Alex Jones (00:10:26.000)
I'm a policy wonk, thank
Dan (00:10:27.000)
you very much. And I got Taylor Swift tickets and a hammer fetish. Thank you so much. You are now I'm a policy wonk, thank
Jordan (00:10:34.000)
you very much.
Dan (00:10:35.000)
And we got a couple of technocrats in the mix. So first, super trans vitality. It's not just chemical castration. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. And, oh, it's December 16. And really just wanted to see how long the technocrats Shut up. Thank you so much. They're now technocrat.
Alex Jones (00:10:54.000)
I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies, I might quit tomorrow, actually. Just gonna take a little break now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start to show over, but I'm the devil. I gotta be daring on there. Liberal. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, Fuck you and your new world order. And fuck the horse she wrote in on and all your shit. Maybe today's broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow. And you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having right now it's on air. I'll be better tomorrow. No. No, but that
Dan (00:11:51.000)
gives you some idea. I've got a backlog. A backlog.
Jordan (00:11:56.000)
I like the idea now of US selling ad space, right? But instead of only doing it in the same slot as like a technocrat, technocrat drop whenever we get to it. It'll be a while. It'll be a while. But we'll tell you that. If you're,
Dan (00:12:11.000)
if anybody wants to expedite, shout out for any particular reason, they can email knowledge fight@gmail.com app, and that will be able to help. Otherwise, I mean, it's just that inboxes the other inbox is a massive fan. Not much I can do about that.
Jordan (00:12:28.000)
Yeah, we try and mix up with the you know, the everybody who's been there deserves to get their space. And if you need it sooner than we can wrap it up. We'll accommodate we're accommodating people. We're not bad people.
Dan (00:12:38.000)
Yeah. And that way, you can also just like, you don't even have to donate if you want to shout or you can just call on Jordan
Jordan (00:12:44.000)
100%. Somebody somebody was like, yeah, they said, they said, and I was like, No, I don't even want that. I don't want that in my mind. You just say you are I believe you.
Dan (00:12:54.000)
We are bad. So we started off the episode here on February 4, and we immediately hear about who's on the docket.
Alex Jones (00:13:03.000)
Hello, my friends, it is Wednesday, the fourth of February 2004. And my goodness, you've tuned into a very important show today. We have the father of Mel Gibson, an expert on the New World Order. Joining us in the second hour Hutton Gibson to talk about, well a speech he gave a few weeks ago to the American free press about secession from the union, the National draft, what's happening in Iraq, the New World Order and much more.
Dan (00:13:39.000)
Pretty sweet.
Jordan (00:13:40.000)
I mean, is there a reason that anybody should be talking to his dad Other than that, he's Mel Gibson said The
Dan (00:13:47.000)
Passion of the Christ is coming out. Right. And so Mel Gibson would never come on Alex's show. Probably. Yeah. Although I mean today, I've said that about Yeah, we've back and forth. Yeah. So who knows? But I think that Alex couldn't get Mel Gibson, but he could get dad shortly. Oh, there we go. All right. We've talked about this before. But hunting Gibson is a very explicit anti Semite. And Alex has no excuse not to know that he's been pretty public about not only his belief that the Holocaust was, quote, maybe not all fiction, but most, but also that he believes that the Jews are behind the plot to bring in a one world government. So when Alex interviews in pretending he's an expert on the New World Order and all that shit, it's important to remember that whether or not he's explicit about it on air, everything Hutton is saying is an allegation of an anti Jewish conspiracy. There are really only two options about this. Either Alex knows this and agrees with Hutton or he doesn't care that he's helping spread really vicious anti semitism because he's being allowed to talk to a celebrity's dad, and that's pretty exciting for him. It's worth noting that the American free press is a white supremacist Holocaust denying rag run by Willis carto. But that the speech Hutton gave wasn't to them. Alex is saying that because he doesn't really No. Okay, okay. They just reported on the speech okay. The actual speech was the We the People conference, which was full of sovereign citizens and a bunch of other varieties of bigot. The editor of the Council of conservative citizens also spoke which you may remember was the outlet the published fraudulent race crime statistics, which were the impetus for Dylann roofs racist mass murder. Yeah. So all all in the mix? Yeah,
Jordan (00:15:24.000)
just a real Bellagio of awful Yeah,
Dan (00:15:28.000)
I couldn't find the text or video of his speech, but I did find a write up about the event. And apparently people were chanting Hutton for President. Great, great, great sorry,
Jordan (00:15:39.000)
Lindbergh. Lindbergh, Lindbergh.
Dan (00:15:42.000)
Lindbergh was more hateful. So there's another guest. On this episode. It isn't just neo Nazi celebrity. Okay. All right. There's another God's good.
Alex Jones (00:15:53.000)
We have the former secretary of defense. And of course, up until about a year ago, he was also the head of German technology at the technology minister, one of the top positions in Germany. Joining us as he'll go over the evidence of the US government, carrying out September 11th. You see, anybody with a brain knows this. And more and more people worldwide are saying the world is round, not flat. And again, we are the Magellan of the 21st century we tell the truth, we face the facts.
Dan (00:16:26.000)
So yeah, Alex has Andreas von Bulow coming on,
Jordan (00:16:29.000)
I appreciate the greatness of the Magellan comparison, because he does not know that Magellan died before he ever actually completed that trip. And it was actually a person of color who did successfully go around the world, Alex
Dan (00:16:42.000)
makes metaphor twice. smart, smart. So it's pretty interesting booking that Alex as someone who is actually in the German government coming on to the show, but he's doing a lot of exaggerating with this resume. Von Bulow was the Minister for research and technology from 1980 to 1982. And previous to that he had been the parliamentary state secretary in the ministry of defense from 1976 to 1980. That's not the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, which is what Alex says it is, but it is a high ranking position. Okay, so there's a minister of defense, and then there are two parliamentary state secretaries beneath them, and von Bulow was one of them. Okay. He's also not been in government up to approximately a year before this, as Alex is saying is like, Oh, he's just got out of government. Yeah, it had been almost a decade since he left the Bundestag in 1994. Alex wants to make it appear that he was in government way more recently, because it's important to create the image that he was in in an official position around the time of 911. So his claims have more authority. In reality, he just wrote a book called the CIA in September 11, which is kind of shit. It's more or less a compilation of the kind of unsourced rumors and theories that fly around on Alex's show, which von Bulow then insists that the US government has a responsibility to disprove the burden of proof is on them from the things that I'm saying, Yeah, I
Jordan (00:18:02.000)
was a little bit. I was a little bit mystified by the credits the CV that we were given up top because in my mind, a recent former German defense minister showing up on Info Wars to claim that the United States did 911 That's going to be a newsworthy event,
Dan (00:18:19.000)
it would be worth it. What happened?
Jordan (00:18:22.000)
That would be something that goes on TV, yeah.
Dan (00:18:24.000)
And get this. We're not even going to listen to any of his interviews. So boring guards. It is really just like them ping pong and back. Weird trivia about No, no, it's just a fact off. Yeah. But it's all the same shit. It's all the stuff that's just in blogs. And like, von Bulow doesn't have like some kind of like, well, the German government has these documents that I bring to the front, right? He doesn't have any information, right. Just read some dumb blog write it. Here's the thing. Here's the thing that has helps us remember. Yeah, just because you have a great resume, doesn't mean you're bringing a lot to the table. That's true. Because think about it, like somebody five years from now or whatever, on like some foreign radio show could have Ted Cruz on Sure. And like he has a legitimate, quite impressive government resume if you're just looking at the facts. Yeah.
Jordan (00:19:19.000)
And he's also batshit insane, right.
Dan (00:19:23.000)
How do you know Andres von Bulow isn't the same thing.
Jordan (00:19:26.000)
Yeah, you know, it does. It does feel like sometimes Chernick was in the governor I know, but that's the problem. It feels all too often. Like we need a better way to avoid saying Hindsight is 2020 You know, like, oh, we just hire people like Steve magenic You know, like no, we got to
Dan (00:19:42.000)
happen every place does that. Every office will have some misfires with employment and people they hire same thing at any retail outlet. That's fair. You're gonna get some weirdo
Jordan (00:19:53.000)
that's fair, but nobody working at the gap has killed Aldo Moro.
Dan (00:19:57.000)
You don't know that? I guess Do you remember? Where they were they boys in the gap?
Jordan (00:20:07.000)
Gap a was the original?
Dan (00:20:10.000)
Yeah, we don't know. It wasn't in the documentary. It was. That's true. So Alex, take some calls, because you gotta fill some time. And he gets a call from a guy. And I thought he had a really interesting question. And that is, what is the military industrial complex? That is an interesting question, especially for someone like Alex, who should have a good answer. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:20:30.000)
Basically, what is the military
Alex Jones (00:20:32.000)
industrial complex? Okay, thanks for the call. That's a really good question, Bob. I bet we answered the military industrial complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower talked about, in his farewell address of 1960. In his farewell address, he talked about how the corporations that had grown up through World War Two in the Korean War, through the funding, through the hundreds of millions of dollars of funding, had taken over almost all of the programs, research programs, universities, had bought up most of the private inventions and inventors and laboratories, and that they had centralized control of the brain trust of Western civilization in just a handful of companies. And he said that that stifled competition, he said that that centralized power, and that because they now own the universities, and because the military industrial complex, was buying up, ABC and CBS and NBC, which was happening right at that I'm sorry, can they do they were going to control all the information, all the technology, and that it was and by the way, we've heard this feature before, that it was a foregone conclusion that martial law would be shut up, because throughout history, when military industrial complexes which they had in Germany and England got big enough, they would always take total control.
Dan (00:22:07.000)
So what have you ever listened to that whole speech or read it? No, no. But you know, like some of the hits?
Jordan (00:22:15.000)
Yeah, I
Dan (00:22:16.000)
got the idea. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's all that that Alex said is made up. That makes more sense. Yeah, pretty much and absolutely is not what Eisenhower was saying in his farewell address. Some of it is just fabricated from thin air. And some of it is just flagrant misrepresentations of things that Eisenhower did say, what are the more basic misrepresentations Alex is making is that he's combining two things that Eisenhower was presenting as two separate thoughts is Alex combining them into one? Okay, okay. There. There's concerns about the military industrial complex. And then there's concerns about inventors, they're separate. Okay. Eisenhower brings up to their new threats and stressors that risk thrown the country out of balance and says, quote, threats, new unkind or degree constantly arise, I mentioned to only then he brings up the two which are the military industrial complex, and the way that innovation and technological advancement had become heavily reliant on funding from government programs. These are two separate things that Alex has turned into one which is not supported by the text. According to Eisenhower, the military industrial industrial complex is the state of affairs, we found ourselves in where the United States had a quote, permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. It's the product of being aware that we need to have weapons ready when the next war breaks out. And the industry that makes that possible, the combining of the two, and the influence that is gained from
Jordan (00:23:41.000)
Yeah, I mean, it's not a long leap to go, okay. This company makes bullets, they make their money from bullets, it is in their best interest for more bullets to be needed. If that's the case, then maybe their advice on foreign policy isn't going to be the best.
Dan (00:24:00.000)
He doesn't even get that clear, but you can you can see shades of that. Yeah, he doesn't talk about the military industrial complex buying up the media. He doesn't say that we're heading to martial law. He doesn't even say that these other countries like Germany and England had military industrial complexes that lead them to martial law. All that is just stuff Alex is projected onto the text because it fits into the larger conspiracy that he wants to push. It's important to constantly be reminded of this dynamic the way that Alex abuses primary sources and how little foundation there is for like his most basic concept. Yeah, it's really a house built on sand but the sand is Alex's imaginary sand. Yeah, so it's even worse.
Jordan (00:24:37.000)
I mean, it is like he's, it's like he's mistaking crossing the Rubicon for the military industrial complex, like, like Cesar owned sort beyond and had to like increase production of swords so that you know, the standing army and then he finally he was just like, fuck it. I gotta take over this whole sword manufacturing operation, and then it becomes Caesar. That's how it works. Well,
Dan (00:25:00.000)
the real problem was that he couldn't get a job with a gap. Oh,
Jordan (00:25:05.000)
l got that.
Dan (00:25:06.000)
So yeah, I just think it's interesting that like, you have these things that are like really foundational and like, bottom of the base, the Keystone type ideas like the military industrial complex, that should be something that Alex gets a call, like, what is it? And he's able to give a concise answer instead of rambling, basically lies about Eisenhower's speech shouldn't be necessary.
Jordan (00:25:32.000)
Yeah, but I feel you know, it is like, it's so much the secret to being able to lie about everything is if you don't know the actual fundamental problems, you know, who cares if you're making a bullshit, like three or four steps down the road? Doesn't even know what the military industrial complex is?
Dan (00:25:50.000)
Or maybe he does, but he knows that the answer doesn't serve his larger conspiracy. Yeah, in a way that like the bluffing of it. Yeah. Basically, I think he'd probably be a pretty interesting improviser if he wasn't such a malicious shithead. A lot of bad sighs Well, most importantly, you could do solo improv,
Jordan (00:26:08.000)
you can do solo improv, and Alex could do it. He would be entertaining because we know that because that is his show. It's a solo improv show for about three hours. Yeah, but
Dan (00:26:17.000)
the suggestion is always hate. Anger.
Jordan (00:26:20.000)
It's no good. I'm looking for a different person to hate from the crowd.
Dan (00:26:23.000)
So Jordan, let me ask a question. What year did you graduate from high
Jordan (00:26:26.000)
school? 2005. So
Dan (00:26:28.000)
it's after this? Yes, it is. This is 2004. I was
Jordan (00:26:32.000)
17. See, I
Dan (00:26:33.000)
dropped out. I was 16. I would have graduated in 2002. Ah, so I predate this. Yes. This warning that Alex has about what's going to happen with high school graduates, okay, and people who are on their way to graduate. Alright,
Jordan (00:26:46.000)
so I'm I am at risk, you know, who lived through this? Yeah, okay. Okay. Don't you remember? No, no, I'm just I'm just, I'm just catching up my memory.
Dan (00:26:55.000)
Listen to what happened to you.
Alex Jones (00:26:57.000)
Now, the New York Times reported the Fed, if your child's gonna graduate from high school, will have to serve their last few years, upwards of 10 hours a week at a Homeland Security computer and you're paid for by the Government will have to sit there and watch surveillance cameras around the country and report to police what they see and quote, in case your child gets lazy, the government is gonna impose fake terrorist so clear, they can randomly insert fake video like the Running Man. And then your child. And old folks will do this too, as part of the new National draft, but it says to start out the high schools will have to call the police and let's say you're in Texas, you'll be tattling on somebody in New Jersey crime, terrorism, everything to terrorism and crime. And to make sure your child is on their toes, your your young person, they'll they'll hit the button to a larger committee. They'll look at the images hit the command of the police. The police will have a code number. No, no, this was just a drill. And that's so sophisticated. I could talk for an hour about what that means.
Dan (00:28:04.000)
I'm sure you could solo improv style. But yeah, that must have been tough. How was it when you had to do those 10 cars a week at the Homeland Security computer that was installed in your home? Here's the problem. Do you ever get tricked by these fake terrorists? On there to make sure you will be lazy. My
Jordan (00:28:19.000)
codes were very great. Here's the problem. All right. Here's the problem with an old person or at this time now he's only in his like, early 20s.
Dan (00:28:28.000)
Yeah, no, I think what 2004 would have been? So he's 10 years older than me. Right? Yeah. He would have been in his late 20s. Yeah, he
Jordan (00:28:36.000)
would have been his late 20s. Right. Yeah. So people weren't as internet sophisticated at that time. Like my generation was just at the end of the generation that was born with computers. You know, if at that time, the government had installed a computer in every teenage boys home, they would have created a race of super masturbators that could last for 10 hours a day. No, like, that's insane. And how stupid that I connected to that internet connected to the internet portal.
Dan (00:29:04.000)
Security cameras all over the world.
Jordan (00:29:06.000)
Listen, the people at the SEC are watching porn all the time. I don't know. I don't fucking know. You know,
Dan (00:29:12.000)
I think first of all cost prohibitive
Jordan (00:29:15.000)
job. Yeah, that is that's definitely cost prohibitive.
Dan (00:29:19.000)
This is so silly.
Jordan (00:29:20.000)
Yes. The logistics of it are impossible to imagine, but
Dan (00:29:28.000)
it is funny to imagine being in 2000 for being one of Alex's listeners and being like, I will never allow.
Jordan (00:29:35.000)
So, okay, so who comes into install it? Is it the G Man Is it like the FBI from the 1960? Like, yeah, excuse me. Come on it yeah, we're here to install your government computers. Yeah, yeah,
Dan (00:29:47.000)
yeah. And you're gonna go to the clink if you if you tamper with this computer at all. There's government property rights like a mailbox,
Jordan (00:29:55.000)
right? Maybe you shouldn't have given government property was 16 year old boy, I'll just throw Without action, if it breaks, if it breaks, it's on you.
Dan (00:30:03.000)
You're going to juvie. And don't masturbate on it.
Jordan (00:30:08.000)
Okay, so after this happens after the red carpet It stole your computer, hook up a landline. Do the whole thing, because
Dan (00:30:15.000)
back then it wouldn't have been like wireless. No, no, it would have been plugged in. Yeah.
Jordan (00:30:22.000)
That's what you would have heard. Yeah, all day, every
Dan (00:30:24.000)
day to dedicated phone line each person's house or else their phone, or their phone wouldn't work. Yeah.
Jordan (00:30:29.000)
The Internet of the past was wild man.
Dan (00:30:34.000)
I don't know, that seems like right on the line. Because I feel like that was definitely the case when I was like, 1617. But I feel like it might have gotten a little bit better by 2004. Maybe not, I don't know, it's hard to figure out when those lines were I
Jordan (00:30:49.000)
can't remember, I want to say that dial up had passed. I want to say that we were fully connected wire, like, not dial up. But I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Either way.
Dan (00:31:00.000)
This is dumb. And it's just delightful. I like it. I like these kinds of things on Alex's show when he's describing these, like, what's gonna happen 20 years later, looking back, like, it's so stupid.
Jordan (00:31:12.000)
There's there's something to be said about his prompts for imagination. Yeah, they know.
Dan (00:31:17.000)
They're scary. Yep, sort of. So anyway, Alex gets another call. And this guy. I guess he blew his friend's mind with a little fact. All right,
Alex Jones (00:31:26.000)
let's talk to Larry in Iowa. Hello, Alex. Good to talk to you, Larry.
Caller 1 (796) (00:31:31.000)
Yeah, I'm trying to wake up a few people and, you know, just casual conversations. And, and I think one of the best ways is to preface what I'm saying by say that I have nothing against Mexicans. Cool. I shouldn't have said that, you know, half Mexican. But this is something that affects to talk about everybody. Because if, you know, right, you know, there are around us, you know, in our communities. And this guy did not believe that there's a social security office in Mexico City. And, you know, trying to tell him about the eventual Pan American Union. And this is one of the facts that are one of the building blocks to that eventuality. Yeah, that's it's public. And I'm a little nervous here. So. So he denied that, of course, well, we wanted proof, which is, you know, encouraging, you know, and
Alex Jones (00:32:33.000)
you go to a search engine, and you type in Mexicans to be paid social security in Mexico, and about 500 articles will pop up.
Dan (00:32:42.000)
There aren't any social security administration offices outside the US. However, there are many US citizens who are entitled to Social Security benefits who live outside of the United States. So there is a need to accommodate these people who live abroad. That's why at many US embassies, there's a federal benefits unit, which houses the office of earnings and international operations. There are actually three such offices in Mexico, two in consulates, and one at the embassy. This has nothing to do with giving non US citizens benefits, but it has the air of being just suspicious enough that presented with no context or even better presented with fake context. It can convince people like this caller that there's something nefarious going on. It's really sad how uncurious these Infowars listeners are all while considering themselves the real truth seekers, yeah, like ask yourself for a second, why would there need to be people who have some involvement with Social Security in foreign countries? At say, an embassy? No, something like it? Why would that be necessary? Obviously, American citizens live outside the United States.
Jordan (00:33:45.000)
I was I was I didn't say anything, because I was waiting for it to be true or not true. Because I don't know. But when he said, Did you know their social security office is in Mexico City. I was like, Yeah, of course, there are US citizens live everywhere. And they also still get US citizen stuff. You know, you and even if you're not even if you're applying to be a citizen, and you said why not go there? I mean, it makes perfect sense.
Dan (00:34:08.000)
There's all kinds of services for citizens at embassies, such as it's an important part of being able to be in other countries. Yeah.
Jordan (00:34:18.000)
What's the point of an embassy? If it doesn't do the things that you would need it to do?
Dan (00:34:23.000)
Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly how, you know, like other countries, their exact, you know, governmental structure is checked, but I would assume that some of those things are available at other countries, embassies within the United States do. So like, I don't know, this is all just really stupid. And I think that is indicative of laziness, on the part of lazy thinking, not asking the second question, if there is this embassy there are this social security thing there. Why is that? Because you ask yourself that question and then immediately you have conspiracy theorists running in with the answer and that is is because they're trying to turn the United States, Canada and Mexico into the same countries where they can give Mexican people Social Security. Oh, Baba Baba, right? And then you accept that as an answer, because you're lazy, right? You don't want to think through the second question of like, it's just because there are people who live abroad.
Jordan (00:35:15.000)
Yeah, I mean, my mind goes like this. Right? So Social Security offices in the US and other other countries, right? People need benefits there. Now, I think, okay, if other countries do that, who has the best benefits? And now I'm thinking we should knock over the Finnish embassy. All right. See, they've got to be keeping shit. tons of cash in there. Everybody knows that. Look out for your emphases there.
Dan (00:35:40.000)
Yeah. So I just think it's I think it's laziness. Yeah. And that makes this ironic.
Alex Jones (00:35:45.000)
You know what, I would suggest that you not cast your pearls before swine. Right. I would move on. I've got a sneaking suspicion. You can give that guy all the news articles. You want to come up with new excuses to be lazy? Yeah, good propaganda. Just place our own laziness.
Dan (00:36:02.000)
You said it? Yeah. Very correct. Wow. And that is the reason you have a career. Wow. Yeah, that is, oh, my God, he's cynical. If he is ever put into prison that should be on a loop.
Jordan (00:36:15.000)
He should have to listen to that on a loop. Over and over and over
Dan (00:36:19.000)
again, good propaganda is predatory upon people's
Jordan (00:36:22.000)
lives. Yes, that makes perfect sense. You jerk us all.
Dan (00:36:26.000)
So now we get to Hutton Gibson showing up? I gotta say, these dudes have no chemistry. It's tough to listen to. Yeah, because he's like an 80 something year old racist. Sure. I think that he knows enough. Like, he's friends with Alex, at least like they've talked a couple times at least before. Yeah. So I think there's an awareness that like, you can't yell about the Jews on his show. Sure. Sure. That's gonna play poorly. Right? There's an illusion that we're trying to maintain.
Jordan (00:36:56.000)
We got 20 years before we can just oh, now say whenever you have to be yea famous. You gotta be gay. Famous Mel Gibson's dad? Yes, yes. Dad isn't doing that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. The
Dan (00:37:07.000)
Celebrity yourself if you want to talk about loving Hitler. Yeah, a family member. But yeah, it's really it's really tough because there's long like pauses kind of like jaunty, back and not jaunty bow for staccato back and forth. Yeah, it's just not good to listen to. Anyway, Hutton wants to secede from the US. Sure.
Hutton Gibson (00:37:29.000)
thing here is that secession was created by the founding fathers. They left it in there did that it did not succeed in 1861 65 is merely a matter of who had more banks and who had more soldiers and more munitions. It was perfectly legal. And Lincoln at one time in prison, the Maryland legislature so we couldn't succeed. Anyway, sorry, did.
Alex Jones (00:38:10.000)
Did you know that the week before 911, the other states, counties and their select men preparing to withdraw from the union, the counties from the States under their article 10 right to revolt in that particular state. And then suddenly the attacks took place and that didn't happen. Arizona almost passed a law it passed committee to pull out of the union and quote a New World Order is declared or gun confiscation begins. If the federal government goes bad, it is our right it is our duty to pull out of the union and it's
Dan (00:38:45.000)
going to start with the Selectmen. I mean, the Omni buds summons Okay.
Jordan (00:38:50.000)
All right. All right. Okay.
Dan (00:38:52.000)
Did you know the right before 911 three states are going to secede?
Jordan (00:38:57.000)
I did not know that. That was that was on the table. I
Dan (00:39:00.000)
did. I didn't know that. That was a motive. Clearly that's the reason you bring this up is like that's why they did 911 Right or to stop New Hampshire from succeeding. Right?
Jordan (00:39:09.000)
Right. Right. Well, I mean, New Hampshire was going to secede in 99. But then y2k happened then they were picking it back up then 911 happened they took a year off Iraq war have a you know your bank to designate every time you try and secede you just have to keep putting it off for a new emergence and
Dan (00:39:29.000)
as we all know, this is one truism for Mr. Chair as go the New Hampshire Selectmen so goes the control goes the country, the wisest elders of our country. I know everything they're always on the right side of history, the Selectmen
Jordan (00:39:45.000)
I've always appreciated those those dumb like legality of secession arguments are like at a certain point, if you have seceded then laws are different now. There's no There's no laws. Yeah, you don't you're not no, nobody has laws over you.
Dan (00:40:00.000)
rules that you can't assault somebody. But if they hit you then Yeah, time throw him.
Jordan (00:40:03.000)
Yeah, it rules your country. Yeah,
Dan (00:40:06.000)
we've entered a different state of
Jordan (00:40:07.000)
play. We're at war in between two countries. There's no legal or illegal here you
Dan (00:40:12.000)
almost it's almost academic and for people to discuss later, like the legality of you know, starting internal civil Yeah, or whatever, because like, in the moment, it's not. It's not going to matter. Yeah,
Jordan (00:40:25.000)
I'm suing Jefferson Davis to stop the war. God will do it.
Dan (00:40:30.000)
Legal. that'll catch them up in in all kinds of costs.
Jordan (00:40:34.000)
Exactly. They want to start the war, but they get it. Yeah.
Dan (00:40:38.000)
Yeah. I mean, look, he can say that there was more bankers and more guns and stuff. But also public support, Jeff, that mean, I mean, if they're different countries support, there are people who are like, you know, really into God's will and stuff like that. You might say that the fact that the union one might have been the message, yeah, maybe they have divine? I don't I don't know. I don't think that but that should be persuasive for that.
Jordan (00:41:05.000)
I mean, you know, when we think about the Civil War, we always like to talk about, oh, us, you know, but a, I think a lot of the times we forget that one of the big things is the south didn't get many loans. Many loans from foreign countries, because there were slavers, most people don't like to loan money to slavers. Yeah, it's bad. There was
Dan (00:41:25.000)
a another caller who brings up that like, everybody wants to say that the Civil War was about slavery, but it was about the South wanting to determine their own future.
Jordan (00:41:34.000)
Yeah. to own slaves. Exactly. Like, you've
Dan (00:41:37.000)
totally got that. Just rephrase this. It's yeah, that doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Alex has looked into HUD and Gibson, and he wants the audience to know that he's super credible.
Alex Jones (00:41:49.000)
We're talking to Hutton Gibson, who has been conscious of the New World Order for 50 years. And you can see the effect of his knowledge, his information, which I've checked out in his tremely accurate on his son and the fruits of his labor with Braveheart and the patriot and now the passion.
Dan (00:42:14.000)
If Alex has checked out HUD and Gibson stuff, and he thinks it's all accurate, he's a Holocaust denier. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker (00:42:21.000)
Yep. Full stop.
Dan (00:42:23.000)
And if he's not, then I would think that when you're presenting this, that hooked and Gibson's information is really, you know, solid. He knows what he's talking about. It's accurate. Yeah, except for the part where he says that the Holocaust was mostly fake. Yeah,
Jordan (00:42:37.000)
yeah. You would, at the very least have to point that one out. Yeah. But the problem is, when you point that one out, all of a sudden, I think about the rest of what he has to say, and I go, I don't care.
Dan (00:42:46.000)
Yeah. That's a difficulty. Yeah, I think that's why Alex doesn't bring it up tends to pan because he wants to launder people like this to his audience.
Jordan (00:42:55.000)
Yeah, I mean, normally you say like, Oh, look at follow my information, you can see the you can see the notes and shit. But if you're talking about HUD and Gibson being like, everything he says is accurate. If somebody follows up for two seconds, they're gonna be like, Oh, you're right. The Holocaust didn't
Dan (00:43:09.000)
happen. Yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna immediately find that he's not. He's not like pretty cagey about No, no. So I mean, if Alex has looked into him at all, you knows this stuff. And I guess that's just what he wants his audience to think is accurate. Yeah.
Jordan (00:43:23.000)
I mean, he has a metaphorical swastika on his forehead.
Dan (00:43:27.000)
So Alex also wants a session, it turns out
Alex Jones (00:43:29.000)
that we're going to be talking today about secession from the union, which is good thing. And I agree, it needs to happen by as many states as possible, because this is an illegitimate government, Washington, then we'll get into the national draft, and the war in Iraq and a little bit into the passion as well, because Hutton has been blessed enough to see it months ago, and I can't wait till I get to see it in theaters in a few weeks when it opens.
Dan (00:43:54.000)
I just don't understand. I don't understand how you can live as an open secessionist Yeah, this along.
Jordan (00:44:04.000)
It's yeah, pick it up. Either hurry it up or get out. You think
Dan (00:44:11.000)
that this is an illegitimate government from the 2004 onwards, obviously, for that, so shut the fuck up with your opinions about the way things are going love
Jordan (00:44:21.000)
it or leave it?
Dan (00:44:22.000)
I don't mean I don't think you have to love it or leave it. No, but you have to secede or leave.
Jordan (00:44:29.000)
Yes, exactly. You have to leave it or leave it. Leave it or shut up? Yeah, I'm fine. Here's the thing. I'm fine with secession that fight Fine, whatever. I don't I don't have I don't care about borders or any of that shit like that. But at no point in time, has anybody given me any like, here's what we do after secession that isn't more insane than what we're doing now.
Dan (00:44:49.000)
Well, I can tell you exactly what the idea is essentially,
Jordan (00:44:53.000)
right. You can tell me what the idea they have of it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's that
Dan (00:44:56.000)
you break up the union. Yep. And then states reconstitute their own government, right? And essentially, you want to end up with a smaller country that is a white nationalist state, right? You basically just want the Confederacy to have succeeded, right? That's, that's what they're talking about when they talk about secession. That's it. Yeah, they want this out to rise again. Yes. Yeah. In order to create an environment where waivers are the only things that dictate policy that dictate how society is ordered? Yeah, I mean, that way that's why they don't talk about what happens next. Here's
Jordan (00:45:36.000)
the problem right? I feel like if we just if we gave them just just cram them all into a small space that's fine again, I'm fine with that if everybody who wants a White nation wants to take a section of Texas near the Gulf of Mexico I don't know why but that seems like the right spot fucking put a big wall around that will be fine.
Dan (00:45:59.000)
The i I see some problems coming from that
Jordan (00:46:02.000)
I can see that too. Yeah, I'm as I'm saying this I'm starting to see some issues here again, this is why secession doesn't work. You're not expected
Dan (00:46:09.000)
to have like fully thought
Jordan (00:46:12.000)
I just started sake secession and here we go. Yeah, let's give white nationalist part of Texas is where I go from secession. Yeah, Alex, you
Dan (00:46:19.000)
have less secession on his mind, sir. Watching succession. I've never seen an episode. I don't know if it's good.
Jordan (00:46:27.000)
Is that? What did you just do that show? No, it is. I just haven't heard you do. Stop talking about secession. Start talking about succession. All right. Hey,
Dan (00:46:37.000)
I think Alex maybe has some thoughts about that show. Everyone on Twitter seems to I've never seen an episode. Yeah. I don't know what it's about. I don't know who's on it. You're good. Thank you. You're welcome. So Alex, gives a hug and a little bit of a pump up, okay. But he can only speak and cliche.
Alex Jones (00:46:52.000)
Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it. In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man hated and feared in time when his costs exceed the 10 that join him because then it cost nothing to be a patriot. And a real patriot. For this Republicans. Gibson,
Dan (00:47:11.000)
he's a real patriot.
Jordan (00:47:12.000)
Does he read enough? A quote book?
Dan (00:47:13.000)
I don't know. I think he got is improv suggestion. I like it. Yeah. I mean, like, if you're listening to this, you would have to assume like, Alex knows his stuff. If you like, Alex, you would think that yeah. And he thinks that HUD and Gibson is one of the great patriot, one of the great in the United States. Great Tria, who's been on this trip for 50 years. So you go and you look them up. And you're like, damn, I guess Alex really wants me to discover that the Jews are the problem. And but he doesn't want to say it on air. Obviously, he doesn't want to like, you know, ruin his career get kicked off the air. He must actually believe that, but he keeps it real crypto. That's the conclusion you would come away from it. If you took the second step and looked into what Hutton Gibson is about 100%. And you also get the sense that Alex is really mad at the Catholic Church, because that's the other stuff that Hutton Gibson gets into Yeah, sure. But not for the same reasons as you know, obviously, yeah, it's because they stopped hating Jews. I was gonna say is yeah, that contains Vatican two was the way that's where it
Jordan (00:48:17.000)
went all wrong. Yeah.
Dan (00:48:19.000)
Oh, boy. So that's what you would discover and you'd be like, Oh, that Alex thinks that. That's pretty fucking awesome. I guess this is what the show is actually about. Because it kind of is.
Jordan (00:48:27.000)
Yeah, I mean, that is that is such a two step laundering that is so simple and effective. Yeah. You know, it happens.
Dan (00:48:34.000)
It happens daily, plausibly deniable? Totally, totally.
Jordan (00:48:38.000)
I mean, it happens daily on so many different shows everywhere. Constantly. Yep.
Dan (00:48:43.000)
Yep. So Hudson is also apparently involved in some moves to help get the Bible back into school. Coca
Jordan (00:48:49.000)
Cola moves, no.
Dan (00:48:49.000)
Oh, although
Jordan (00:48:53.000)
he wasn't. He was a visionary artist died.
Dan (00:48:56.000)
He died before. I can't pin it on him Vatican
Jordan (00:49:00.000)
two Coca Cola, too.
Dan (00:49:01.000)
He's getting coke. He's getting the Bible back into schools. So here's a little clip about that.
Alex Jones (00:49:07.000)
Before we go these calls, you've been taking action for decades. And you've got a great newsletter. You've got a great documentary, where you go into the corruption of the Catholic Church, you do such great work. And at the same time, a Hutton you're also involved with Pastor Butch Paul and others. 30 Plus states are already putting Bibles back in schools. How many people knew that this this great literary work even though they say you can't have you know religion in the school, they put Harry Potter and humanism in there, but they make the kids in California and the five pillars. That's great news,
Jordan (00:49:49.000)
stream news, mainstream news main stream at noon. I remember
Dan (00:49:53.000)
force your children in public schools to be to convert to Islam.
Jordan (00:49:59.000)
Yeah. cool okay. I mean I I'm happy I'm happy to
Dan (00:50:03.000)
be part of that's part of what happens with the government computer in your home. Yeah.
Jordan (00:50:10.000)
I listen, I am for everybody's fine with the Bible's being in schools. It is not the Bible's existing in a school. That is the problem. The other problem is,
Dan (00:50:20.000)
it's being available for people in the library. That doesn't really matter.
Jordan (00:50:24.000)
I've got I've got like three Bibles. I've got two versions of the Koran. I've got the fucking apana shots. I've got Yeah, you can have as many literary books in the Bhagavad Gita. Yeah, go for it was great
Dan (00:50:35.000)
to have access to a lot of that stuff. And particularly in high school, because I was able to actually understand a lot more of Yeah, what I was reading, but yeah, having those resources there is is I don't think anyone is opposed to or even back in 2004. It's evangelizing Yeah. And such that the issue I would
Jordan (00:50:53.000)
be the I would be stoked to have a like any conversation that you have with somebody about religion. In school, you should have a Bible with you. I don't want people like trying to get me off the dome quotes.
Dan (00:51:07.000)
No extra Is that Yeah, exactly.
Jordan (00:51:08.000)
Don't do that
Dan (00:51:10.000)
work. Well, bad. Now, one of the classes that I took in high school that I really loved was classical ideas and World Religion is a great class. Yeah. Great class. Yeah. Solid class. Yeah, I
Jordan (00:51:20.000)
recommend people read holy books.
Dan (00:51:23.000)
So Alex, I think the word of the day. Yeah. Is obsequious. That's a good word. He is treating Hutton Gibson, like a founding father, okay. It's ridiculous. I
Jordan (00:51:35.000)
thought you meant he was using it. And I was like, wow.
Dan (00:51:39.000)
I'm surprised. It's over the top. It's just nonsense.
Alex Jones (00:51:43.000)
huntin it shows what, what, what we can do. We're straightened strong enough, right. And your life has really been a testament to that you have done so much through your life to enrich our lives. And it's so exciting. We got a bunch of phone calls here, Hutton, anything else you'd like to go over before we go to the calls?
Hutton Gibson (00:52:05.000)
No, I don't think so. Just we have to do something about this government. And if it goes we Supreme Court goes with this. The Congress goes with it. The executive department goes with it. The Treasury everybody else the whole thing goes. We don't have to worry about are we set up separate the way they started. And then gang together when they're out of the way.
Alex Jones (00:52:33.000)
And you know, we have to dare to think like that. We have to make that decision and start pushing for it setting up Committees of Correspondence in all 50 states to move to restore the Republic. button in the past, okay.
Dan (00:52:50.000)
Yeah, there's that response. Right. It's just like hanging sentences. Yeah, it's just the vibe is not good. It's it's tired
Jordan (00:52:59.000)
button. You've enriched our lives so much. You've made me feel like the Holocaust didn't happen. Mel Gibson was in a couple good movies. Sure. I really liked Braveheart. Yeah. That really is your weapon. Pretty good. Yeah. He was good. He was crazy. He was like, Oh, I'll jump with you. Ah, you know, yeah.
Dan (00:53:18.000)
Daddy's home
Dan (00:53:29.000)
I feel like that was a recent one. Oh, no. So
Jordan (00:53:34.000)
he sat me Mike. I haven't
Dan (00:53:36.000)
seen I don't know. He might as well be. I don't know. So you have one last clip? Because like I told you Andres von Bulow. His interview is zero. Yeah. I mean, it's it's remarkable to me the way that you have something that on paper is big, much like with the Jim Baker episode about DMT Yeah, sure. Just the headline of it. Interesting. Yeah. The reality of it not so great. So you have a guy who was in the German government coming on headlines Great. Now the reality of it stinks. And there's nothing to really be gained from listening to it except for that it happened I guess. Disappointing. Kind of but I think he probably comes back so maybe a later interview will happen. And we'll get maybe some more meat or something.
Jordan (00:54:19.000)
Are we talking an accent? What kind of German accent like heavy German accent Okay interesting light how does Alex handle that?
Dan (00:54:27.000)
It's not as disruptive as it could be. Okay, yeah.
Jordan (00:54:30.000)
Is that where he learns his future sorrows accent from
Dan (00:54:33.000)
No. Although one caller in this episode did talk about going to let's meet George
Jordan (00:54:40.000)
Soros I'm calling get the info
Dan (00:54:44.000)
is your refrigerator that's the root of the sorrows. Yeah, that's
Jordan (00:54:48.000)
what it is. So sprinklers bread, call them in 2003.
Dan (00:54:53.000)
There was a caller who brought up that he was at like a meeting of the Sun Microsystems people, okay. And as we know, Al Next is a big lie about Bill Joy, the head of Sun Microsystems. Yeah. And his article Why the future doesn't need us. I was like, I'm getting a feeling that maybe this color is part of what Alex builds into that conspiracy, no shit, but it didn't really have much overlap, just that he was at a sun microsystem meeting and they were talking about like, microchips right right putting them into fish does not have as much overlap with the why the future doesn't need us.
Jordan (00:55:30.000)
I mean, those fish didn't even have human eyes yet. They were they were not say they were happy fisheyes they hadn't turned into sad humanize yet.
Dan (00:55:37.000)
Yeah, so we got one last clip and it's a caller who they're having a great time with. And then it turns bad for me, but it doesn't for them. Okay.
Alex Jones (00:55:46.000)
Let's talk to Clinton. Missoura. Clinton, you're on the air. Go ahead.
Caller 2 (796) (00:55:52.000)
I just like to echo what your last caller said. Yes, go back to Lincoln and also recognize that Hamilton and clay also wanted to centralize the government banking and whatnot. Lincoln the only one that got accomplished because he did it by the barrel of a gun.
Alex Jones (00:56:10.000)
Well, they tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson seven times the British banks did didn't they hadn't
Unknown Speaker (00:56:17.000)
heard seven. They got him once.
Caller 2 (796) (00:56:22.000)
But I'd also like to add that the only way this government will be fixed if you will, is you're right, but that's and and that must start with state sovereignty. Can I give you my organization's website?
Alex Jones (00:56:36.000)
Oh, sure. Plug away. That's what we do.
Caller 2 (796) (00:56:39.000)
Okay, it later the South. www dot Dixie net.org. Oh, no. And read about session. All right. Thank
Alex Jones (00:56:47.000)
you for the call. I appreciate it.
Dan (00:56:49.000)
The League of the South is a group that is interested in reducing the Civil War and having the south secede. However, they're also interested in creating a white nationalist state out of what happens after secession. They're widely recognized hate group and for a short while they were included in the incorporation that was known as the nationalist front. This was a group that also included the Klan and the outright Nazis, Vanguard America. The Nationalist front was an attempt to bring all these scattered white supremacist groups who are pushing for an ethnos state together so they could be under one banner and get more work done. Unsurprisingly, that all happened just after Trump got elected, and they were the most like biggest thing that you probably have known their work from is the white lives matter type Message area that people were so thrilled about, right. Typically, they've been more of a white supremacist slash segregationist group. But they also dabbled quite a bit in anti semitism. In 2018, their founder Michael Hill posted this on social media, quote, The Jews claws are sunk too deeply in the United States. For her to survive in her present form, we must have an independent self to read our part of the earth of this pestilence, there must be no Jew influence on our new nation state. That is the foundational concern that must be taken care of before anything else, this independent South will once again be a white man's land share trip. This is a group that Alex is letting his collar promote with no pushback at all. This is what Alex promotes. But I haven't Hutton Gibson on and saying that he's accurate about everything. Alex is begging his audience to go find out what Hutton says, which will then be read with the listener knowing that what they're reading has Alex's stamp of approval, it's legitimately impossible to go back to this period of time on Alex's show and not recognize that he's pushing his audience toward a very extreme sort of ideology and ideologues. And I personally don't think it's an accident. You can't convince me that Alex doesn't know what the League of the South is. He loves secession. And he's bragged in the past about being Confederate royalty. He knows who this group is, and he's fine with promoting it. He doesn't jump in and say something like a secession is fine, but those people are racist to Nazis, or if he wants to keep on pretending that right wing racists and Nazis don't exist. He could just say that they're secretly Feds or something like that. It's so easy. He doesn't do that. Because he's into the his audience joining the League of the South, because the League of the South pursues the state of affairs in the world that Alex wants to come into being. Yeah, it's just kind of that simple.
Jordan (00:59:18.000)
Yeah, I mean, the dumb part, the dumbest part, the overwhelmingly stupid part of this idea of secession and so on and so forth, is that the reason that the South was able to secede and do what they did was because they had free labor from slavery. If we had a white nationalist movement, secession, what or whatever right now and they got their own little country or whatever, they would rapidly discover that most of our lives are built on the backs of everybody but white people.
Dan (00:59:55.000)
Even beyond that, I mean, I agree there's there's an element of that and they And beyond that, well, I mean, I think that they would still find a way to try and enslave PC. That's the problem. So I mean, I think even if they recognize the reality of what you're talking about, they'd find workarounds, as it were. Exactly. The other thing is like even just broader picture, they very quickly realize that there are trade embargoes that we probably no one is probably going to want to get involved with export import partners with the white nationalist breakaway state. Yeah, I
Jordan (01:00:35.000)
mean, I think it's American Rhodesia, and then Brexiteers and the end. I mean, American Rhodesia, Brexiteers, and Russia could probably form a new BRICs.
Dan (01:00:47.000)
I don't know, I think I think they might not even want to get involved.
Jordan (01:00:51.000)
That's possible.
Dan (01:00:52.000)
I mean, it's just it's it from a functional standpoint like that. It's just silly. It is absurd. Yeah. But absurd. silliness is also you know, not to be obscuring the hatefulness. Sure, and the severe shit Henry that's behind this. Yeah. And that Alex is like, it's, it's almost impossible to look at the behaviors that are demonstrated on this episode, and not draw the conclusion that Alex is hoping that his audience will look into the League of the South. Yeah. And learn more about them. Look into HUD and Gibson learn more about his anti semitism and internalize these things. Yeah. And that sucks. Yep. He's like this. And he's always been like this. Yeah. And
Jordan (01:01:33.000)
you know, it's just let it fucking works. In fucking work, you know, like you. It's not a obviously it's not a direct path. And obviously, it's not him by himself. But it is that concept of like, here's what you could do in the early 2000s. You could put a full blown Nazi on your show. And you can be like, as long as we don't say the shit that is not a ship.
Dan (01:01:54.000)
And as long as you're not aesthetically a Nazi. Yeah, you know,
Jordan (01:01:58.000)
then you see that ball that snowball rolls downhill, but why are at the big snowball? Jordan?
Dan (01:02:04.000)
Why can't Yeah, not so you talk about secession on the radio, really? I mean, talking about his Nazi things. Yeah. Now granted, the reason that he wants to secede is that he believes that Jews are trying to make a one world government and to have their claws in the US government. Right? So I guess it is kind of behind every single thing that he says even if it isn't over Yeah,
Jordan (01:02:26.000)
I would say maybe motive motive is something that we should consider in whether or not somebody succeeding from the union is on the up and up Yeah, yeah,
Dan (01:02:38.000)
it would be helpful it would be so we got a little bit of a shorter episode. I blamed Jim Baker it is
Jordan (01:02:42.000)
his fault
Dan (01:02:45.000)
so many things come back to Jim Baker. Yeah, his fault. I spent too much time watching the TMT I had had a bit of therapy yesterday. Yeah. Therapy and then also psychiatrist appointments. Limited my time we got
Jordan (01:03:00.000)
we got three this week. You're good? Sure. But
Dan (01:03:02.000)
I mean, this is just talking Gibson. We're not even listening to Andreas von Bulow. Right if I had all the time in the world, I still wouldn't cover that. If everything was going my way, if I had a machine that stopped time, and gave me all the time to prepare an episode ever, von Bulow still getting left out
Jordan (01:03:25.000)
if your therapist was like, the only way for me to treat you is if you listen to this von Bulow.
Dan (01:03:31.000)
No, I mean, listen to it. I did listen to it. Okay, fine. I'm just not covering it. Yeah, nevermind, if that was payment, right.
Jordan (01:03:39.000)
I'm getting a new therapist wouldn't do it. Deal
Dan (01:03:41.000)
Breaker. So we'll be back Jordan end on Monday with another episode. But I had an idea. What's that about this? What do you think? I actually haven't pitched this to you yet. Even so this is fresh. Exciting on it right on there. Yeah. I'm thinking, maybe. Starting on episode 800. I'm gonna start using social media.
Jordan (01:04:05.000)
We've been down this road before have we yeah, we tried. You tried the Instagram for a good week and a half, two weeks? Remember to take pictures and yeah, I know. That one's tough. But also here's the problem not a poster. Dan, you're on a ship poster. What would you do on social media?
Dan (01:04:20.000)
Let's see. I wanted to take pictures of these books for the library and stuff for sure. But then I'm seeing some of the titles of these books and some of the pictures on them. I don't want to post this
Jordan (01:04:31.000)
Yep, that is like it is just a series of Nazi book. Yeah, context. This
Dan (01:04:38.000)
looks terrible.
Jordan (01:04:41.000)
Dan advertising for all the Nazis Nazi books that you could have. Yeah.
Dan (01:04:48.000)
Like self crippling
Jordan (01:04:50.000)
that is that is there's no way that unfortunate side effects.
Dan (01:04:54.000)
Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Fine. I'm not going to start posting
Jordan (01:04:59.000)
Not telling you not to time now okay, we'll be back with a solid day
Dan (01:05:09.000)
but until then we do we do it's our chart.com Yep we're also on Twitter we are on Twitter is at dollar underscore fight Mike's are both in there.
Jordan (01:05:17.000)
Right away right now we'll find out but until
Dan (01:05:19.000)
then, amnio Emilio, MD, ZX Clark. Forgot to scout.
Unknown Speaker (01:05:27.000)
And now here comes the sex robots.
Alex Jones (01:05:29.000)
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
