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Damn, and, Jordan, I am SWEATING
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray
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I have great respect for Knowledgefight
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Knowledgefight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys
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Saying we are the bad guys
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Knowledgefight
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Damn, and, Jordan, Knowledgefight
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her
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Aaaah, need, I need money
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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas
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Stop it, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas
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A-a-and, Andy, it's time to pray
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us
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Hello, Alex, I'm a victim, calling in my huge fan
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I love your work
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Knowledgefight
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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan
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I'm Jordan
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We're couple dudes, like to sit around in a hotel room
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Far away from Selene, worshipping from afar
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And talking about Alex Jones
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan
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Jordan
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Dan
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Jordan
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Quick question
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What's up?
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How do you feel about your desk?
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Cause mine's broken
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Uh, oh, in your hotel room?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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Did you break it?
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No, I did not
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Walked in there broken
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Sure
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I'm proud of myself
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First time I've ever seen something broken before I touched it
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Yeah, I don't buy it
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First time ever
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Fair enough, but what's your bright spot for today, Dan?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, is the good people at Noribar
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Out in Louisville, Kentucky
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Louisville, as some people pronounce it
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Yes
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If you're ever out there, the best karaoke bar that side of the Mississippi
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Heroes of the day, I swear to God, you don't even know
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Yeah, so to fill everyone in, we had even more technical problems
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We were gonna put out an episode yesterday
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We totally meant to go Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
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Cause we had, uh, had some fun stuff to talk about
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But, uh, could not get it done
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No
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Uh, really fucked up
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It was, it was looking good for a minute
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And then it all just fell apart
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I mean, it is, it is apropos to call this a war
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Because we did win a lot of battles
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Some battle
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You know, we lost some battles
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We lost, we lost some battles
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But we did win some battles
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There were some times where we were so close, you know?
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It's debatable if we actually won those battles
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Or if we just had the appearance and feeling that we had won those battles
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Well, I mean, we didn't overthrow Charleston, I get it
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Like, the, the war ended with peace, not, you know, like, you know
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Hope sprung eternal
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Yeah
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But, uh, Zach, uh, the proprietor of Noribar
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Indeed
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Is a friend of our, uh, our buddy, uh, here in, uh, Austin
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The Not A Health Ranger, John
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And he helped us out, hooked it up
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And now we've got our equipment all set up
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And I'm not touching it, goddammit
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I know, we are, we are about, I, I honestly think we should move
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A little bit further away
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Yeah
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I mean, you have to be able to read
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But I could be in the other room, frankly
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I'm really worried that there's gonna be some kind of a, like,
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Electromagnetic field that I give off that curses
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Oh shit, the Ocean's Eleven crew is outside
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They're putting out an EMP
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Yeah
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Um, so anyway, if you, uh, are in Louisville, uh, I've pronounced it three ways now
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Yeah, that's the correct number of ways to pronounce it
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I've been there
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Go do some karaoke at Noribar
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Uh, anyway, what's your bright spot?
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Uh, boy, you know, there's no bright spot brighter than
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Finally getting to do this show, Dan
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We have, we have recorded almost several shows
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Yeah, pretty close
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And it has been a little bit like edging, uh, but, like, if edging was with knives, you know,
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Like, it really, really hurts
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And now to be here talking to you, spectacular
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And knowing that we have a thing in front of us
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Yes, indeed
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So, Jordan, today, um, here's, here's the old sitch that we find ourselves in
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Quite honestly, I forgot to get, uh, wonk shoutouts and I think I'm not going to
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Don't worry about it
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No offense, we have been jumping through a lot of hurdles
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Spoiler alert, it's almost midnight
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You don't even know what time it is and you don't want to know when we end
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Yes
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You don't want to have any idea
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No
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Nope
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Keep that, uh, keep that shit far away from you and let me deal with it
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Yes, let's pretend
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So, uh, Jordan, today we are going to be talking about Alex's War
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The new documentary that has come out, uh, comes out today
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What? How did you possibly see it, Dan?
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Some people have accused me of being a witch and let's just say that
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Did you search into your crystal ball and watch it from a distance?
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God gave me a vision of this documentary when I was four
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Well, it turns out you're actually close friends with Glenn Greenwald and you were there at the
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screening, right?
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Yeah, that's correct
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Yeah, that sounds right
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Yeah
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Um, I'm helping him support Bolsonaro's, uh, regime
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Yes, that sounds correct
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So, um, I, I, uh, managed to, uh, to do some watching of this thing, uh, and, uh, I got
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some thoughts on this bad boy
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Oh, yeah?
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Um, it comes out today
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Accurate? 100%, I assume
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Well, here's my first thought
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What?
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Too long
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It's two hours and 11 minutes
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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Good movie, 90 minutes max
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Trim that baby up
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Max
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Especially if you're doing a theatrical release
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You expect people to sit and watch Alex for that long?
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No, I was, well, I, well, let me tell you this right now, Dan
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When I was in the courtroom today, people watched Alex's show for a full hour
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How did you think they did?
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I was watching the stream of that and they did, I mean, I, I think your tweet about one of the
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jurors who was writing notes
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That is the enduring
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When I saw him, he was right there, I looked over his shoulder
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When I saw him writing so diligently, he like really cared
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And then at one moment you could see him stop
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And you were like, yep, we've all gotten there
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He realized like, I don't need to pay attention to this
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This is not going to mean anything
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We're done here
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So this, this is going to be something, and I will say actually, interestingly, even out
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of context drop from this documentary, and I actually think that Alex sums up some of
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my feelings about this documentary fairly well
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Interesting
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Which I'm just ranting the whole thing's horseshit
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It's all just insane
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Yep
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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That's pretty close to, to my feelings
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I think you are a witch
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Just ranting, it's all horseshit
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Is that a deep fake?
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Shallow fake
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Yes
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So, like I said, this thing is too long, and there's a lot of problems
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But in advance of this documentary coming out, Jordan, I wanted to bring this up
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There have been some people who have maybe shown a few too many of their cards in discussing
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this documentary
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Some of these cards have been a little difficult to interpret, they were, but they were shown
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all the same
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You have Glenn Greenwald, who agreed to do an embarrassing Q&A event at the premiere
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of this film, where he interviewed Alex as a promotional event for the movie
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We're going to cover that Q&A on our next episode, so I'll leave some of my more specific
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thoughts on the side for a moment
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And then you had Matt Taibbi, who posted a ridiculous post on his substack where he appeared
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to just want to scold people who think this documentary is bad
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I honestly don't know his full argument, because apparently the full thing is behind a paywall
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and he can fuck right off with that, but you get the point just from the free version
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This is one of the more particularly pathetic passages in that
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Quote, in the pre-Trump era, it was understood reporters weren't supposed to avoid ugly or
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scary topics
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We were supposed to dive right in, and in the non-judgmental manner of doctors, figure
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them out
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That was the job, but somewhere along the line it became too taboo to ask the usual
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why questions about the likes of Trump, or 4chan surfers, or the subject of Moyer's new
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movie, Alex's War, the infamous Infowars host Alex Jones
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I'm gonna have to stop you right there, I threw a brick through his window while you
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were reading that
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It is a little frustrating
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After scolding people who aren't engaging enough with monsters, Taibbi ends his free
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section with this
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Quote, journalists now aren't supposed to look too closely at their motivations, and
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most don't. Wearing in curiosity like a badge of honor, Moyer looked, referring to Alex
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Lee Moyer, the director of this documentary
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I read Taibbi's book like 20 years ago where he was like the octopus capitalism or whatever
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bullshit he was writing then, and I was like, man, this guy's got some thoughts, and much
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like Glenn Greenwald, he shit himself in his mouth, that's crazy
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Having watched this documentary, I can tell you that if Taibbi isn't getting paid to
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write that, he either hasn't seen this film, or he's one of the stupidest assholes on
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substack, and that is a deep roster of stupid assholes
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We'll see through this exploration that this is not a documentary that asks why at any
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point, and to the extent that it's even a concern, the why is entirely constructed by
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the subject of the film, Alex himself
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When you have somebody who's a huge liar, and the reason he's divisive is because he's
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a hateful liar who lies all the time, it's kind of irresponsible to produce a documentary
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about them that skirts the issue almost entirely, and if it's even addressed at all, it would
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just be Alex saying, I'm not a liar, which is then taken as fact
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There are no dissenting voices, there is no other side presented at all outside of random
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people on the street yelling at Alex, and short snippets of TV hosts making fun of him,
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which actually aren't included to provide any sense of balance, they're there to inflate
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the image of Alex's noble persecution
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This documentary sucks, I will say that right off the top here and I make no bones about
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it, I'm not trying to pretend to be a Taibian neutral observer
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Here's what we need to do, we need to bottle you up for another few, like before our next
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episode we need to make it impossible for you to record anything so that all of your
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fury and passion and rage goes into writing about Matt Taibbi's bullshit, man you are
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a fucking dynamo my friend
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I don't want to go that direction
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Fair enough
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But this, Alex Jones, is a subject that I know and understand intimately, and seeing
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it covered like this and witnessing these supposed free thinkers like Taibbi and Glenn
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Greenwald congratulate themselves for having the courage to support this film is disgusting
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Seeing them scold people for not engaging with what is pure and simple and exercise
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in whitewashing and rehabilitating the image of Alex strategically released at the time
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of his Sandy Hook trial's beginning is an inexcusable act of either malice or intense
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delusion
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I can accept that it's possible that they think this film presents a fair and nuanced
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picture of Alex, and then maybe they aren't acting out of a place of severely ill will
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but I have to say if that's the case then they're guilty of the very thing they're
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scolding everybody else about, not engaging with difficult subjects
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The only way to think that this documentary can be experienced as just showing Alex as
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he is would be if you have done zero investigation on him and simply accept the framing that's
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put in front of you unquestioningly
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Having spent more than my fair share of time researching the topic, I can say with absolute
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confidence that Greenwald and Taibbi and anybody else who's not a full-on info warrior or right-wing
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zealot who says that this documentary shows a complicated and fair picture of Alex, they're
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a coward who's afraid to look at Alex as he actually is, or they've been tricked
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Fuck these people who are trying to rehabilitate Alex's image and make fawning portraits
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of him more mainstream, using whatever credibility they have in some perverted way
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It's a perverted exercise of like, oh you guys just can't handle dealing with this person who you're afraid of
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or he's saying things that are dangerous to your worldview
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Fuck off, I've done 700 episodes on this clown
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Let it be known that this will go down as one of the most righteously furious weeks
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of any human beings in the history of the world between you, me, Mark, etc.
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This shit is- how are we in this room? Did you hear that the fire department was called earlier today?
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Oh, I was taking a nap and I was woken up by them saying everyone can come back into their rooms
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I was in my room the whole time! And I was like, you know what, this is because I'm too mad!
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Oh, see if I were Alex, I would say that it was Alex and the info warriors trying to
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smoke us out of the building so they could attack us, like he said about Chantilly, Virginia
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when he was staying at that hotel outside Bilderberg and he pretended that he was under attack
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That's a good point. Dan, I'm gonna self-say to myself, neighbors
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Yeah, I also want to say that incident where Alex pretended that the globalists were trying to attack him
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and Chantilly not in this documentary. I'm gonna make a lot of points of things that aren't in here
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That would be smart
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Also, the time that he went bullhorn Bilderberg in Canada. Nope, not in this
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Did they play the doodle-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo?
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No guitar or no violin
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What's the fucking point?
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I know. So anyway, here is the beginning of the film and it starts with a one-shot of Alex
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staring at the camera, a much younger man
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Hello, I'm Alex Jones and I'm a radio and television host based in Austin, Texas
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and for many years I've been exposing the criminal activities of the global elite
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also known as the New World Order
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My research has covered such topics as the militarization of police,
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the attack on America's national sovereignty, the destruction of private property rights, the family
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All of these institutions must be destroyed
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before the establishment can create their ultimate dream, a one-world government
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So this documentary begins with a clip that was originally the intro for Alex's film
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Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove
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It's kind of fitting because although Alex probably shot to prominence
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mostly through his 9-11 conspiracy activity
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one of his earliest publicity stunts that he pulled was the whole charade of Bohemian Grove
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and what is this documentary Alex's War but another publicity stunt?
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There's a thematic resonance that may not have been
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intended that is made by putting this clip at the start of this documentary
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It links Alex's bullshit from his early career to the bullshit
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he's in the middle of trying to pass off and sell you as you watch this documentary
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In the same way that he intentionally lied about the circumstances of his trip to the Grove
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in order to manufacture a false reality that affirmed his worldview
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this documentary is literally nothing other than Alex Lee Moyer
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allowing Alex to use her to do that again
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present a wholly dishonest portrait that creates a false reality
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wherein Alex's idiotic worldview is affirmed and shown to have been right all along
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Based on literally everything in this documentary
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I can very confidently say that this is not what Moyer was going for
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but it's interesting if you want to over analyze it like a lit major
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Sure, yeah, no, I can definitely see the, what would you call it?
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like the incidental irony of the circumstance wherein you know
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if you were making one movie you could play this clip
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but if you were making a movie about that movie you would play that clip
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and then play like a a cut over it where it's like
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wrong you know like that kind of thing and then the rest of your movie would begin
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Yeah, yeah, there may be a couple moments in this film that kind of have that feeling to it
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it's like you didn't mean this but it's there's an accidental thing here
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The H1 behind the music, right? A little bit like worse
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You watch the documentary about a cheap trick you know and it's like
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oh it's so cool that they're alive and then you watch the behind the music
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and it's like they did a lot of drugs and they're all dead
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you know it's like that kind of feeling
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Oh no
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Yeah, yeah, oh I'm so sad, yeah
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And then things took a turn
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So the documentary itself starts with some glamour shots
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basically of Owen Troyer at the Stop the Steal rallies in November in DC
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and some people are yelling at him and what have you
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it's a it's a good time
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Wow
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Four million man march, mega march, this ain't a million people dude
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This is the same opening to Swan Lake, did you know that?
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Yeah, so the doc begins with a bunch of shots of Owen dramatically yelling into a bullhorn
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while surrounded by a ton of security many of whom are the same folks
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that we've been seeing in the courtroom
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Interspersed are shots of people yelling at the Trump fans
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more or less meant to signify the threat of Antifa
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I guess to justify the ridiculous amount of bodyguards
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every Infowars person has when they're in public
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Absurd
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Also this is where the film introduces its framing device
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The film begins with footage from DC from the Stop the Steal protests
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that happened in November 2020 which you may recall as the endpoint of Owen's stupid caravan
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This is presented as 72 days until the election which will be how all of this is understood
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The documentary is, I'm sorry, not 72 days till the election, the inauguration
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Sure, sure
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This documentary is a countdown to the point when Biden is set to be sworn in
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with the flashbacks to points of Alex's career thrown in
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in order to I guess pad the runtime or something
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Yeah, what was the name of your, of our caravan?
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Dance Caravanity Project
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There it is, yeah, there it is, yeah, let's just make sure that's in there
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Parts one and two
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Before we get any further, it goes without saying that there are huge chunks of Alex's career
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that are completely ignored by this film
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For instance, there's no mention of his highly disgraceful Boston bombing coverage
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There's nothing about Jade Helm, there's nothing about Y2K
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These things and countless others aren't included because if they were mentioned
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it would detract from the illusion that this film is trying to construct
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Times that Alex was wrong, like about Sandy Hook
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are meant to be seen as the rare occasions when he's meant well but got something wrong
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Looking at the broader picture of Alex's career would too easily reveal a different pattern
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which really doesn't serve Moyer or this documentary's purpose
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Through this you see lies that Alex is presenting
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and they are being delivered by Moyer with literally no pushback
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and no other perspective being presented at all
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At other points, there are instances of full-on deceitful framing that is entirely the product
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of how Moyer decided to edit this film
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They are intentional choices that could have been made by the director
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or could not have as they were making the film
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It was up to them
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I'm going to do my best to be sure to delineate the differences between these types of deception
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because it's important to recognize how this product is actually a lie that Moyer and Alex
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are collaborating on creating, whether or not there's actually complete discussions
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Regardless of whether or not Alex and Moyer get into a room together and Alex is like
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hey make me look like I've got a giant dick
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It doesn't matter
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They're creating that through both of their mediums
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Alex through lying and Moyer through directing
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Selectively editing and such
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But here's the thing, Alex is just doing what he always does
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He's a narcissistic liar so what would you expect him to do
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other than to lie to create a heroic mythology about himself
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Moyer on the other hand is pretending to be a documentarian
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and almost everything in this film is a lie that she's telling through framing
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or a lie that she's letting Alex tell
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and choosing to present without any question or any suggestion even of any doubt
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She is in essence responsible for all of the dishonesty in this documentary
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either through intentional choices or negligent filmmaking
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and I think that will be borne out through the process of our conversation here today
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Gotcha
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So I'm hearing that maybe, all right, she is not a good cat
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No
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I don't think so
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I don't know all that much about her other than she's been on Infowars a bit
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She made that a couple times just like about her documentaries
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She um
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It's funny on this show that that should alone by itself be like
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oh well then this lady is a monster and we're like well
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we got to find some other credits to prove she's bad
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Yeah
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She made that incel documentary
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Oh yes she's she's
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She was um
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She's great
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She was there at the Greenwald Q&A and hung her head looking at her lap most of Alex's interview
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Perfect
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Anyway
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Owen goes on to complain a little bit just dramatically
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I don't know how far you are
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I had been here since the uh
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Since the fake pandemic
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And it's sad
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I come back to DC
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Everything's shut down
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Everything's locked down
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Businesses are boarded up
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You can't even go get breakfast
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You can't even go get dinner
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You can't even go shopping
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You got to wear a face mask
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You got to get a test
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You got to go into quarantine
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And it's given me a real taste of what a communist country would look like
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And it fucking sucks
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So I don't want the democrats to turn America into a communist hellhole
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Alright thank you police we love you guys
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We love you guys
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Weird
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What Owen doesn't want is a country where his access to luxury and leisure commodities is in any way restricted
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He has essentially translated that into being what communism is so when there's a temporary shutdown of some businesses because there's an active pandemic that's killing thousands of people a day
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Owen's only way of experiencing that is to say that's communism
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He can't go to the water park so America has fallen to Mao or something
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Which is weird because I kind of had the opposite experience
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Most of the liquor stores didn't deliver booze until after the pandemic so now I feel like you know there were some positives
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I'm not saying there were no positives
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No positives yeah
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Well you got to take the rough with the smooth as they say
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Thank god for small miracles
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So it's important to understand that a lot of the understanding that Alex and the Infor's ideology has of concepts like communism or freedom are painfully superficial and they often revolve around appearances
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For instance Alex constantly talks about the police state being like police and black ski masks which is an aesthetic characteristic
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He doesn't you know talk as frequently about what behaviors would be associated with a police state like police determining law and acting with impunity to mete out justice because that would be way too complicated and when it actually does happen he's generally in favor of it
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He doesn't usually have a problem
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Yeah well I mean constitutional sheriffs by maritime law are allowed to kill and execute anybody who disagrees with
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Yeah no no that makes it makes sense if you think real not soft about it if you think real soft about it
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The optics that Owen is describing could easily exist in a capitalist country there is nothing that would be stopping that
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At the core the point that's being made is I don't like the bad and scary thing and then they're just naming that thing communism or in Alex's case like martial law
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The words have no meaning they're basically just signifiers for like nah no right yeah they could just be pointing at a sign that had whatever on it it doesn't matter no good yeah
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But again I think it's pretty bold of this documentary to start out with Owen complaining a bunch sure and it continues
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But I do think it's sad that the violent left gets to come to DC and riot and loot and burn and destroy it's destroying monuments destroy parks and uh churches
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And then when we come to town a group of people who have never burned never looted never rioted never done any criminal activity they shut down the whole city
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Smash cut January 6th. We can't go in front of the White House we can't go into parks but the left who lock riots and loot and destroys they get full access to all of it
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They get to put their propaganda everywhere but God fearing America loving patriots come to town and they shut this city down so pretty pathetic in DC I'm not gonna lie
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Yeah I mean he's talking he's talking about like the left destroying churches and like right around this point I believe is when his buddy Enrique Tarrio is stealing a Black Lives Matter banner from a church and burning it
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Yeah yeah and getting arrested yeah yeah that one
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So it should be mentioned here that about a thousand Proud Boys are pictured in this documentary with Infowars personalities it's wall to wall
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In the first 10 minutes alone Owen is seen with the head of the Proud Boys Enrique Tarrio and Rob Dew has a chat with the head of the Oath Keepers Stuart Rhodes whom he calls brother
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You know The Wire had a lot of former convicts in the show you know because that gave it a sense of realism
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It's interesting that this documentary has a lot of future convicts in the show
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Yeah true and not presented as dicey weirdos
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So these two men Enrique Tarrio and Stuart Rhodes are leaders of groups who participated in organized planning prior to January 6th and stand charged with seditious conspiracy for their actions attempting to stop the certification of the 2020 election
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I don't think any left-wing group Owen can name has done anything close to that level of rioting and the leaders of both of those groups are his friends
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Yeah that's gonna be tough to argue around
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Calm the fuck down
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These groups do all kinds of street violence and destruction but that's super inconvenient for the Infowars narrative so it's never happened before
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Anytime a right-wing or militia group has done something it's either been purely self-defense against the left who are actually the real problem
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Oh totally
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Or it was secretly the feds
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Reality has to be constructed this way because if you don't do this then you'd have to distance yourself from these groups and marginalize the violent wing of the movement that you've constructed
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Alex would never do that because he needs these groups
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He needs them to continue to engage in street violence and hostile intimidation and they need folks like him and Owen to justify it to their audiences by pretending it's only the left that ever acts that way
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And this is only considering the groups that are literally in this documentary and friends of the subjects
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You could branch this out to all sorts of far more militant right-wing groups from the patriot front on up and down the line
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And you'd wind up with the picture that the right has a substantially greater problem with organized rioting and violent outbursts than any leftist community or the specter of antifa could ever be saddled with
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Well what you're forgetting is the absolutely violent leftist group that came about whenever Crayola put the peach crayon as skin tone and they're called crantifa
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Oh no crantifa
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Yep yep I'm gonna live with that one I'm gonna call home that's my friends and family are gonna know about that one
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To change the mood I should tell you that there was a guy who was walking behind Owen at this point who was wearing a trump flag as a cape
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Fantastic
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So that's fun
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God bless a berry
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Yeah so this cuts to Owen being interviewed in a black cowboy hat in a hotel room
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I don't know about
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We live in a great world
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I don't know much about cowboy hat sizing but it feels too big
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It's a little too big
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It feels too big
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It's too big
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I'm not an expert
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Okay
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But I think it's too big
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Too big
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Coming from a neutral perspective you say do you think government is corrupt
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Like 90% of people are going to answer yes to that
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Do you think that mainstream media is corrupt again like 90% of people are going to answer yes to that
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But I mean sadly you can't convince people I think that what they see on tv is a lie
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Otherwise Alex Jones would have retired a long time ago
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What do you guys think about Alex Jones?
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I mean let me tell you the sleeping giant is awake
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We're not going on your lockdown too
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We're not taking your back seats
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And Bill Gates converted hell
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Alex wouldn't have retired
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He would have said that the new thing that replaced the mainstream media was lying to them
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If he'd gotten his wish in 2008 and Ron Paul had been elected president
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He would have done his whole deep state thing back then
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Finding traitors everywhere in the Paul cabinet
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I suspect the reason Owen laughed when he said Alex would have retired long goes
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Because he knows that's not true
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Yeah
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Total bullshit
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Yeah
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You hear the music swelling there and because this is the point in the documentary about
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seven minutes in where we see present day Alex for the first time
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This is a choice
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This is a hero shot with the triumphant crescendo and Alex being flanked by tons
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of people marching in DC
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This is a decision that Moyer made as a director to introduce Alex this way
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It's it's almost like he has arrived
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No no no when the director was like let's put Patton in front of this giant American flag
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The director had no idea that that would make people think oh this is a patriotic man
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No clue
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Yeah yeah no clue that was just a happy accident
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Yeah I I would say not not great not not great form
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Maybe not
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So this is Alex's second introduction
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The first was an intro to him as a concept with the clip of Alex from Dark Secrets
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This is meant to instill the message that he's been talking about the same thing for
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his whole career and he's been prophetic about all this stuff
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The second is an intro to him as a person as he exists now and you see him as a man vindicated
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leading a giant crowd no longer the outskirt uh outcast on the fringes of society
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I have to stress this these are filmmaking choices
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This is how Moyer wants the audience to see Alex as he's introduced
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and that would be totally fine if this film questioned that presentation at any point
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but it really doesn't
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Right
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It's just this is glorification
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Right right right right
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That to me is a problem
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I mean it doesn't get more how how do you live with yourself is a question that I've been
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asking a lot like as I've watched shitball uh make arguments in court
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That's the defense lawyer's nickname
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Yeah yeah forever now uh it's it is a there's a certain part of me that
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wonders at how many times have I said there's no bottom how many times
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A few
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And yet I look at his brazenness and I think there's no way that's real you know
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and so with this kind of shit it's such the same thing there's no way
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Yeah
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This is real
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Yeah
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I am we're living in fake town
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It's a it's a fake film
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Yeah yeah
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Um I also should say and it's a good thing you brought up something that had to do with
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the trial because we will have a trial update on our next episode
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Oh don't worry don't worry
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This documentary is uh it's a it's of the
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The most it's today
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We're in the zeitgeist
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Yep
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So we have uh Owen introduced talking we have Alex triumphant man leading a charge on the streets
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Totally
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And then we get another character and that is the man with the Kangol hat Rob Do
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Oh I was hoping for Aragorn
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Nobody has one job
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You have to be able to adapt very quickly to ever-changing situations
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I answered a Craigslist ad
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So everybody gets into info wars I did an interview with a couple guys and at one point they said uh
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this was working for info wars does that make a difference they're like very kind of apologetic
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and I said no that's cool and I'd already been listening I know who Alex Jones was
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living in Austin and you see him all the time
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You go out in the crowd Alex Jones is the most popular person here today
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He's the most popular people know who I am and I'm fucking behind the scenes
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And it keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and now that they've banned
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him and done all this stuff to him it makes him even more prophetic
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Not cut in court
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You know you get up you carry the ball four yards every day
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you're gonna get moved down the field and that's what he does
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I think Alex probably does carry the ball about four yards every day but the problem is that for
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a really long time he's been not heading towards the end zone he's been like going four yards
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toward the sideline and then he changes directions every now and again he's been out of bounds for a
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really long time is what I'm saying
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Oh yeah
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Rob's metaphor is stupid
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As is Rob Dew himself shown here in his trademark Kangol hat
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He got this job through craigslist which is fun but in my experience most of the talent on info
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wars gets their job through winning a contest it's like Willy Wonka for bullshit
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I guess that the behind the scenes folks all just answered the wrong vaguely worded craigslist ad
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that doesn't say info wars on it so you can trick people into possibly working there
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because most people wouldn't do that
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But you know my aunt was on who wants to be a millionaire did you know that?
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Have I ever said that before?
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I didn't I didn't know that
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She didn't actually get to do the questioning part but she did describe to me constantly the
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experience of like answering who wants to be a millionaire questions as the audition
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and then getting the audition and then so on and so forth
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That was a more complex and difficult process than becoming an info wars host
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Yeah for sure or the nightly news director
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Yes exactly
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Yeah and one of the things that I mean is is fun is that like
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Rob Dew got his job the same way I almost got scammed on a clerical opening
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and I answered an ad for a histology lab assistant position in 2009 and I'm still getting emails
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Right right right no well Rob Dew sent me an email asking to be my roommate
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but only if I sent him a couple thousand dollars because he needed money to move in with me
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and he couldn't afford it at the time but when he got there he would have paid me twice as much so
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you know I almost thought about it but I don't think it was true
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Probably not
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Yeah
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So here's where Alex comes in in earnest speaking to the camera laying out the truth
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Oh no
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I mean that's the way the universe works
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There are competing forces that are trying to dominate and everything is propaganda
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The general public doesn't realize they're under attack by information
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and so I want people to become aware of propaganda and how it operates in the info war
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So we call ourselves really what it all is
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You guys know who he is? You know Alex Chauncey's info wars?
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Very popular
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Alex Jones is a fake and he's a performance artist
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So this is as close as you get to any kind of counter point being made at all
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It's just these little slivers of tv host
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Although I think it's really fun that Alex is like uh hey uh so uh look there's
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war around information and that's how he got our name
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Isn't that cute?
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It reminds me of the home movies thing between uh Brendan and Coach McGurk where he's like
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everything's a prison Brendan
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Brendan everything's a prison
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The school it's a prison
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Our lives it's a prison
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Brendan's like this conversation it's a prison
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Yeah they um my buddy Ryan Beck he and I started comedy together in Columbia and
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um one of the things that I'll always remember is that I had a belief that all comedy is
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essentially an argument or a fight
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Well that's a good question
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Because so many good
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I want to fight at you about that which is funny
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So many good sketches kind of involve people having an argument in some ways
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Right
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And so I was uh like trying to make this point to Ryan and then we ended up in an argument
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like by point and it's hilarious
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Yes yeah absolutely
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He was furious about that
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It seems like all you have to do is show them the Monty Python dead bird sketch and you're
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like this is comedy that's what it is
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And that is the only sketch that has ever existed
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Ever existed the only one
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So uh these clips of tv hosts continue
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On his website Infowars he touts what many would say are offensive claims
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paranoia porn
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We're talking about somebody who traffics in some of the sickest most offensive types of theories
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I'm perceived as a clown I perceive as a nut I perceive as a maniac
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Technocracy is dead on arrival
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I'm the most man most demonized media person in the world
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I've had tens of thousands of articles written hundreds and hundreds of tv reports
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Every major national program you can name every major publication
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I don't feel sorry for myself being persecuted like this
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This is what happens when you get successful and you're over the target
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Yeah I mean this this is um a notion that is going on challenge that all these people
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are making these criticisms of Alex because he's over the target when in reality most
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of those clips that he played were people making accurate points about him
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Yeah totally
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Yeah it's it's like it's it's just that notion of like you know they laugh at you
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and then you're right you know that that is that Gandhi that quote
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No it's it's like first they laugh at you then they're like watch out for this dude
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and then they murder you or whatever
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Sometimes they just laugh at you
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Yeah yeah
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Your ideas aren't dangerous sometimes people are saying that uh you suck and you're being
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an asshole not because you're over the target but because you suck and you're an asshole
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No it's like when Alex is is sarcastically saying something that somebody else has said
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that's absolutely accurate where it's like oh Alex Jones is a racist and you're like
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you can say it sarcastically but it's still true
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Yeah
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You know it doesn't matter
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It doesn't really affect my feeling on whether or not
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Objective reality must exist otherwise we all die together
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Well yeah Alex has a thought on that
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Disagree
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So um this was maybe my favorite part of the documentary
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Okay
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Fairly early on they show uh Alex behind the desk and he's doing his show and then it goes
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to commercial and this is all staged
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No
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100%
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This is so fake
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Rob Dew comes running in
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No no no no no
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Breaking news story
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No no no no no no
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This is the fakest shit I've ever seen
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Now that's that's some of the good news I'm gonna give you the really nasty news coming up
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The forced inoculations, the checkpoints, the imploded economy
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What's that?
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They also got some of their gmo
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Yeah
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Just the mrna vaccine attacks proteins
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Yes and it's the one by it says it on the front
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Pfizer it's the Pfizer
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It's the bio
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BioNTech which I think is the mrna
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Yeah
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Holy fucking shit
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Oh yeah that's the worst
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So it attacks the protein from the placenta
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And it packs the protein that helps make the placenta
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These are motherfuckers
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These motherfuckers
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What's that Lassie?
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He's trapped in a well
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What's this?
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Well we gotta go get him
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Oh my god this mrna you're telling me it attacks protein?
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Holy fucking shit
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Oh man man wow unsolved mysteries is like that is the greatest recreation anyone's ever done
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It's a fun fantasy
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I mean even if it weren't real it's not productive and I don't see anything getting done
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But there is no way I believe that this happens
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Do you know what I feel like?
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I feel like
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I haven't watched his show as much as I have he is like drinking or sweating in another room
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Right
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During the breaks
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Right
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He's not doing any like oh what let's get more information on these stories I'm about to riff about
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I hate to bring this up because I don't have specifics and I don't remember names and I
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really don't even remember where it's from however this documentary does exist and it is one where
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the documentarian gets really close with a bunch of people who committed a genocide and then later
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over time he gets so close that eventually the people who committed that genocide agree to
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reenact the genocide they committed on film right that is what this documentary should be not like
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have you ever considered genocide is awesome what about that
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Yeah there are some editorial choices that I take some serious issues with
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but I do think that the revision of Rob Doo running in is so fucking funny
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Everyone is yelling at me they all know the name of that documentary
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No
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I'm not
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Nope
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I don't remember either
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Exactly
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So I take some issue with this Alex starts discussing his earlier years now this is the
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the portrait of a man and he brings up some of his reading history
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Right James Joyce
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And I think that this is actually like fairly accurate at the end
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History is just the river where we jumped in before
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And so now once you know that history you recognize where you are way down the river
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where you're at
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Deep I've been in Austin since high school I was born in a small town outside Dallas
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Probably die in a small town
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Nice
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My parents were racist readers there were books everywhere
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Reading comic books or science fiction books which I first started out on like
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six, seven, eight years old was fun but as soon as I was reading Julius Caesar
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it was like this is real like this is what I want to know about
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What did Julius Caesar read?
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And so then I started to read all the history books around the house
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It was everything from Plato to Nietzsche to Zbigniew Brzezinski
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All four of them
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I didn't even know what it all meant but I just couldn't quit looking at it
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He didn't know what it meant he just kept looking at it
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This is Alex's work process
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Yeah
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You know what I mean I don't think that there is a more real sort of explanation of Alex's
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information base than I read science fiction in comic books and I really loved them
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and then I saw smarter books and I stared at them
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Right
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I couldn't understand them so I skimmed them and then I pretended this was you know reading
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Yeah well I mean it does it is very similar to what I did I read the Sandman comics and
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then I looked at hieroglyphics and I was like well clearly I understand them
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Yeah I listened to that album by hieroglyphics and I now know how to read them
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That wasn't a bad album
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Not bad
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No it wasn't bad
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Del the funky homo sapien
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I mean Del is he's 75% amazing
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I can't remember any of the other members
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Anyway Alex had some more books that he read there's a theme here
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I got really stuck on World War II books Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
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Shearer Heinz Hobel's Order of the Death's Head
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I read the British Secret Wartime Report on the Mind of Adolf Hitler
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I read that twice it was all about secret societies and Hitler trying to take them over
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and British intelligence and then I read Henry Kissinger the writings of Mao Tse Tung
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The Art of War
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Time Life Encyclopedia is on the Occult
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or the Time Life Encyclopedia is on the Wild Wild West
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I read them all cover to cover and then I found when I was about 12
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None Dare Call a Conspiracy by Gary Allen
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and I already read all this other material so I knew it was pretty much accurate
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So you may notice that Alex didn't really like books about World War II
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as much as he liked books about Nazis
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Yeah
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He should probably think about that
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More importantly he's very clear here that he read None Dare Call a Conspiracy at age 12
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which he knew was accurate because he'd already read all this other material
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which raises the question what other material
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He was a child reading all these history books he didn't actually understand
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He was skimming shit and then he read None Dare
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and decided this comported with his studied worldview so it must be true
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I would suggest this is all bullshit and the reality is that None Dare resonated with Alex
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because he was brought up in an insane John Birch society household
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and the book matched up with what his dad had taught him was true when he was much younger
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Another important point to bring up here is that Alex is saying that he read that book at 12
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and he definitely didn't read Carol Quigley's Tragedy and Hope before that point
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which is why he approaches Quigley's book solely through the lens that he internalized
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from None Dare Call a Conspiracy
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He'd already consumed the John Birch society propaganda prior to seeing the actual book
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and I strongly suspect that he's never actually even read Tragedy and Hope
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It's really long
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It's long, we've talked about it extensively
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and that's longer than the amount of time he's attempted to read it
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I do believe that he's read compulsively about Nazis
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I will say this, I will say this
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in that clip if you'll notice the only person that he's read
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the only author whose work he's read who has not been party to
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or actively committed a genocide was None Dare Call it a Conspiracy
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I mean I think that Gary Allen was pretty in support of apartheid
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I mean he was but he didn't have the power to do
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you know like Kissinger did a genocide
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Mao, genocide, Hitler, a genocide
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Gary Allen tried to maintain the Rhodesian government's rule
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That's true but nobody was like let's make him an international sex symbol for no reason
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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Yeah that's true, I'll give you that much
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Yeah that's fair
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So Alex like he just read these books
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He got this world expanding thing when he was younger
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and thankfully he had a lot of people in his life who helped him peek behind the curtains
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My parents had a lot of interesting friends
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My mom's brother was involved in a bunch of clandestine stuff
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down in Central South America after Vietnam
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and he would come sometimes to tell them stories
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I'd be sitting there at the dinner table
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I actually think that is true
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I think his uncle was
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No I don't think you're wrong, that's what is funny about it
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And my mom then had friends that were out from San Francisco that were involved
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Psychedelic research, they would come talk about what the government was doing there
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heard some of those stories
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MK Ultra
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My dad had friends that were in the John Birch Society
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So there was a background noise of them about the one world government
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and the cashless society and the plan to break up the family and all this
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I mean basically I just grew up seeing a lot of stuff that was behind the scenes
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You could refute this clip by confronting Alex with his own words
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or with other pieces of information that are publicly available
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For instance you could say that Alex's dad didn't have a friend that was in the John Birch Society
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His dad had been a member himself since college and had given speeches at JBS events
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It wasn't background noise, that was the operatic score of his childhood
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Or you could bring up various versions of this stuff that he's told on his show over the years
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Like was his dad actually a CIA dentist?
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What about the part where his dad was the smartest boy in Texas
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and the globalists tried to recruit him into their depopulation conspiracy when he was 18?
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These aren't things that Alex is bringing up in this documentary
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because this is a forum where he's kind of wanting to be taken seriously
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and not sound like a guy who's just making shit up all the time
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because he knows that there's a chance that people who don't already like him will listen or watch it
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Yeah it's a bad idea to just go and say you know my dad had all of these books from the John Birch Society
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and also John Williams wrote the Imperial March for the John Birch Society
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And I read all these science fiction books that I've sort of blurred with those John Birch Society books
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Hey I bet Heinlein wasn't a fascist
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Heinlein was super cool right?
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Some people would say
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Yeah well you're not wrong
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So Alex gets further into his life, his younger life
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and there's just straight up problems with this telling
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Where I grew up outside Dallas was at that time the richest county in Texas
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A lot of the powerful evangelicals that were on national TV lived in Rockwall
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because a bunch of their networks were based in Dallas
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And so I would see like a famous preacher driving their cheesy Rolls Royces and stuff
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You know in the really big houses right on the lake
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You'd see on their back porch drinking tequila snorting cocaine off prostitute's breast
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And I'd be sitting over binoculars when I'm like 12 years old watching that
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We would go to different parties
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You'd see the police pull up off duty but in their uniform and come in and sell people drugs
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And I never really told these stories because it doesn't sound real but it was real
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Alex tells that story all the fucking time
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Oh yeah
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It's one of the very few stories about his younger years that he tells constantly in
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mainstream outlets because it allows him to present himself as somebody who is sniffing
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out corruption from the youngest of ages
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Here's the thing though
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On his show he tells stories about these super rich people all worshiping the devil
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and them trying to lure him to join them in Satanism by offering him sex with their daughters
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There was a real serious devil worshiping problem in Rockwall that Alex was on the wrong side of
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and they wanted to recruit him desperately because Satan had
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communicated to them that Alex was going to be very important for God's plans in the future
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We know this from Alex's telling of his youth and this raises an important question
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What's that?
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Did Alex tell the documentary crew this?
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If he didn't then it's safe to assume that he was self-censoring because he knew that if he
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said that shit he would look like a lunatic
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But if he did say that stuff and Moyer decided not to include it
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that means that she's censoring her own subject to
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protect him from appearing to be as insane as he actually is
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I could see it going either way but the fact that this aspect of Alex's self-mythology
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isn't addressed here is itself an act of censorship
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Obscuring the reality that Alex creates absurd fantasy stories about himself
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to satisfy his narcissism and amuse his audience keep them impressed with his exploits
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Right
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This is bullshit
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You have no awareness of Alex's story if you allow that to stand up question
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Right right right
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It is somewhat of the central problem of our era with Alex Jones which is that
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We can get distracted by the effect
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We can get distracted by the cause
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We can get distracted by the effect before the cause that led to the effect
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but the reality is that the cause before all three of those proves everyone involved is
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insane and we're all wasting our time with the other three
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If that makes sense to you
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I think it does I mean like yeah it's it doesn't not resonate
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It's convoluted
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Sure
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It's not great
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Yeah so Alex tells some more stories about his younger days
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and these also hit very familiar themes that we've heard before
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Dallas was the kind of place where if you looked at somebody wrong
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they'd jump out of their car and want to get the fight
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and so it was definitely extremely violent extremely violent
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I saw people shot some people stabbed some people beat over the head with shovels
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I saw huge car rags drag racing people on fire inside their cars
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You imagine like a James Dean movie but 20 times that and so Dallas was crazy
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I'm a rebel without 20 causes
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My dad's not like a super macho guy but he's old school he said
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you better learn to kick some ass then
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I started you know becoming very aggressive and fighting back
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so then I kind of got proud of the fact that I was fighting
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I got put in juvenile quite a few times
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I was before judges but because the nature of the fight people being in the hospital
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people getting hurt really bad
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At a certain point my dad said you've got we've got to move out of this we have to get out of this
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And those were good experiences because it taught me not to be a victim
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Congratulations
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Right
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This characterization also doesn't match various versions of Alex's violent fighting
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years that we've heard from various sources including Alex himself
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For one thing Alex's story has always been that he uncovered a conspiracy
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a secret drug dealing gang within the Rockwell police department
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and because of that the cops threatened to kill Alex if he didn't leave town
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This is why his dad moved them to Austin according to his consistent telling of it in the past
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Why is so different now?
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Possibly because his other story is completely absurd
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and no one outside of his audience would ever believe it for a second
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Possibly because Alex knows that this documentary is meant to reach an unindoctrinated audience
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and it would be bad for business if he scared them off with his normal bullshit
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Allowing that to stand unquestioned reveals that Moyer is not up to the job of making a movie
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and reveals that Moyer is not up to the job of making this documentary
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Either through negligence or bias she's allowing Alex to contradict himself and not addressing it
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That's bad filmmaking, it's bad storytelling and because the audience isn't made aware
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of this glaring credibility problem that Alex has
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It's an act of sanitizing and presenting Alex inaccurately
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and it's dangerous because the audience could be susceptible to that
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Can you imagine if in the Glenn Greenwald Q&A Glenn was like Alex tell us about the time
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that you as a 15 year old uncovered a drug dealing ring within the police department of your hometown
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Tell us more about that
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Yeah and why wasn't that in the in the documentary?
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It's so odd it's not in the documentary
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One of the greatest stories I think I've ever heard
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Yeah and it's it's part of your whole mythology about being a guy who's not afraid to stand up to
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power at a young age At a young age you were a hero among men
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I've heard him talk about it in a way that's like that's what
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turned him on to the idea that power is corrupt and all this stuff
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Yep
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And now he just left Rockwall because he got in a few fights?
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Yeah
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What the fuck is going on here?
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Yeah yeah yeah
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Also Alex Le Moyer probably should have asked Alex about all the people he claims to have killed
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Couldn't hurt to ask about how he constantly talks on air about how it was mostly black
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people attacking him when he was younger because he was white
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Any of this stuff would be super relevant to presenting Alex accurately because
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the awareness that he constantly lies about himself is very relevant to a documentary
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where the main source of information about Alex is Alex himself
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By not addressing his credibility problem in any way Alex is allowed to be seen as a credible
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narrator which is a choice that Moyer is making about how she directed the film
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Maybe because she wants to lie for Alex or maybe because it's easier maybe she's lazy
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I'm surprised they didn't add the quote where Alex says that no black person has ever experienced
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racism from white people more than he has experienced racism from black people
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Yeah
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I'm surprised that didn't make it to the to the documentary that one
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seems really like foundational you know
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Yeah that is strange so anyway we get these like dissonant depictions of his younger years
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that basically seem like watered down versions of the stories he always tells
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Right
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That are kind of meant to trick people into thinking that he does not a complete
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bullshit artist and maybe you can listen to him and it's not really as insane as people say it is
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Currently this documentary feels like a massage for Alex with a happy ending
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Mm-hmm
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Yeah
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I think that's putting it delicately and mildly it's far more than that it's filthy
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Wow it's the first time I've been mild to you
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Yeah it's like it's like a month at a hedonistic swinger's resort
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Oh do you oh do you mean uh oh my god now I'm fucking failing I'm failing you uh god damn it
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Oh no
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You know what you
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Moloch god damn it
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Bohemian Grove
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Yeah we'll get to that later okay so Alex goes to Georgia because he was looking
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It's late
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Yeah Alex went down to Georgia because he was looking for an election to steal
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Um so when he went to he went to Georgia apparently some stuff happened that wasn't on his regular
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show and one of the things that happened was he went to the Olympic rings statue
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and he decided to shoot a little video about it
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Figured it all out
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What have I told you that hiding in plain view in downtown Atlanta Georgia there is a
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giant Nazi symbol that wasn't just one of the main symbols of the Nazis but it was also designed
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hand drawn by Adolf Hitler
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Hitler absolutely did not design the Olympic rings
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They were designed in June 1914 by a French dude named Baron Pierre de Coubertin
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The reason that Alex is confused is because Lenny Riefenstahl made a documentary about the 1936
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Olympics that involved going through Greece and making a prop that looked like an ancient
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object resembling the ring symbol In 1984 Robert Barney a sports historian found it
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Good work Robert Barney
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He mistook it for an actual Olympic symbol not knowing it was a Nazi propaganda film prop
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So the association with the design and the Nazis is the product of one mistaken sports
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historian and a Nazi propaganda film I'm willing to bet that Alex got it from the latter
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Even so he's kind of just making up the part about Hitler designing it
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That's silly
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I'm sorry but if I told you Hitler had created the Olympic sign would you agree?
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Also I believe that that Olympic symbol is there because of the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics
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and Alex thought that was a false flag
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Yeah
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So also not in the documentary
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Oh that's crazy
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Talk about the Atlanta bombing
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There's so much it seems like they left out of a relatively long fucking movie
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Too long
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Yeah
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So this is my second favorite part of the documentary
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Alex finds a guy on the street
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Feels like you front-loaded it
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They might have
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So Alex finds this guy on the street outside the Olympic rings and this guy is chill as hell
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He seems pretty cool and Alex tries to uh I don't know what point he's trying to make here
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Good sir how you doing man?
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All right what's going on up here?
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Hitler designed that symbol
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Uh-huh
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So we were asking folks should it be torn down
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Oh for real? Y'all against Hitler?
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I'm against Hitler
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Shit yeah yeah need to be torn down today sit down I'm against our races my love our people
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I hear you but now but we've taken that symbol and now it's a symbol of world unity
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So maybe we've expropriated it's kind of like if a bad dude stole money and built a house
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We don't burn the house down we just take it over
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Right
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So why not just take it as our symbol?
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Okay and make it our symbol right?
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Yeah exactly
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Right so y'all want to keep it up?
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Well I'm saying if we're going to tear down everything old in America just because some
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people might have not been good I'm just saying why don't we tear this down?
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Right
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Which I don't want to do
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I mean look I don't like Hitler but that's a pretty good symbol he was pretty good
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It is yeah it is
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I mean you know the VW symbol he came up with that VW
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Mm-hmm
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He invented the first Volkswagen
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First Highways
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First Highways
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But that doesn't blow the Highways up
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Motorhighways still make both ways
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Adolf Hitler with with a pen and ink created this symbol
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So it's kind of hard to assess what Alex wants to say but based on the words he's using uh
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I think I get it he's arguing that Hitler designed this logo but it doesn't stand for Naziism so
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even though it has a bad history it's now good so we shouldn't tear it down
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This is actually him talking about the statues of confederate generals that people wanted to
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take down but he's making a convoluted point so here are the problems one he doesn't think the
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confederacy was bad so the history of those statues isn't bad to Alex two in what way is
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isn't bad to Alex two in what way is something like a confederate general statue become a symbol
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of something good whereas in the past it was bad I don't know how like uh Bedford forest uh has now
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become a symbol of something good
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Well well well uh burn sides now we've got sideburns
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Was he a confederate general?
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No idea but I'm going for it
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Okay I don't know if he was I don't remember Ambrose Burnside's side he was on
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Listen I'm going for it
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Also third problem Hitler didn't design the Olympic Games
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That's really the big problem
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That's my favorite my favorite part of that clip is just the complete and perfect logic of the
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person responding to it where it's like oh Hitler designed this flag sweet bad flag let's get rid of
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it oh we've taken it back and now it's a good thing sweet that's awesome it's a good thing
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let's keep it yeah oh you don't want to keep it man
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I'm confused
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Figure your shit out first okay
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Yeah within 20 seconds he's like oh shit let's you want to tear it down yeah let's tear that down
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Yeah yeah
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Oh wait it's good now
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Right let's keep it yeah you don't like it you also want to keep it man figure your shit out and
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then come back to me
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Yeah that guy was fun
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Yeah I love him
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So Volkswagen was founded by the German labor front which was a Nazi organization back in 1937
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The existing labor unions had been raided their leaders killed and they were taken over by Nazi
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groups and the labor front began Hitler absolutely did not design the first Volkswagen cars although
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he may have made some suggestions as to little design features I don't care if he designed the
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logo because you know he has that artistic past and also the original design is way different
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than it looks now it's notably missing the lines around it that look like a swastika
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Put on the swastika that would look good
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So it's hard to say if Hitler invented highways because I don't know what Alex means by highway
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Using some definitions it's a really stupid claim that Alex is making
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like there were highways like the ones we understand that predate Nazi Germany
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so that point doesn't stand
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Sure
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I think Alex is just misunderstanding that uh uh Hitler was involved with the construction
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of the Autobahn
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No no no no Hitler created the Pony Express that's what you're missing
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Hitler invented mail
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Cool maybe Alex should have done a better job of reading all those
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Nazi books he loved as a kid
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Because this sounds like
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Or maybe he should have done a worse job reading them
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Sounds like some inaccurate Hitler trivia he's doing out here
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Whatever happened he did the wrong job reading them
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So Ali Alexander is uh here uh in Georgia
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Really gonna take the swing of putting Ali Alexander in a movie purporting to be positive
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towards Alex
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You kind of have to because he was a big part of Alex's trip to Georgia
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That's true
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For the stop the steal stuff
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You're right
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So if you're going to include Georgia at all it's going to be hard
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I'm the fool I'm the fool
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So here's Ali
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Well Ali Alexander the national founder coordinator of stop the steal movement is here with all of the
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country together fighting we've reached a critical juncture here in Georgia but tell folks about
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what we're doing the next four days in a row at high noon
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So at high noon at the Georgia state capital Alex Jones myself and other patriots are here
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and we are marching and we are telling the secretary of state stop don't certify
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Oh kind of like you did with j6
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Yeah
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Stop don't certify
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I kind of want to smash cut to affidavits
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So while they're in the state house there in Georgia
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Yeah
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Somebody else who's along uh with Alex and Ali has an idea uh and that is essentially like hey
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we're already inside let's just not leave
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Which is a sit-in
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A an idea that has never been tried before in protest history
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It's a sit-in that's a form of uh
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No no no they've invented it they've created this is the first time this has ever happened
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Well it's you know it's a peaceful non-compliance
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Sure
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Um here's what Ali has to say
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Oh Alex they serve I'm sorry I'm not trying not to do this they serve by the vote here right
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Yeah
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We're inside let's not leave
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We're not crowded
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Let's make love
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We're not the left we're not going to democratize ideas
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That's how we're going to stop the certification
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Listen to me listen to me listen to me
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It's not a bad idea
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Listen to me listen to me
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Peaceful sit-in that's what we'll call it
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Here we go if the hillbillies make up all the ideas then we're going to lose the country
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So put it side to side listen to me we're going to stop the steal
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But first we're going to stop the certification
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Let's not leave the fight it's okay
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Yeah
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How are we going to do that?
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Sorry let's talk about it later it's good
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I'm just talking out loud with ideas man
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It's good brother I love it
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You know sorry
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I'm not trying to say anything
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It's okay to have ideas everybody's fine
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So this is fascinating for two reasons
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The first is that what Ali is saying is that you don't get a say in what the plan is
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He's the brains and you hillbillies are the bodies
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This isn't the left there's no democratization of ideas
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It's a hierarchical system where Ali calls the shots and you follow
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That sucks and I can't believe that didn't piss this guy off
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and it's funny to watch Alex try to smooth things over
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I mean you know it just doesn't get better than being like
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If we let the hillbillies set the rules we're going to lose the country
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I don't know if you know who you're leading
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No but that's yeah he's an elitist within that sort of milieu
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He thinks he's better than all of those people
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He looks down on the very people that he pretends he's supporting
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No no my overalls are slightly cleaner
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Obviously I'm of higher status
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It makes perfect sense
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Second thing it's so weird how this documentary
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really tries not to point out that Nick Fuentes is right there with Alex and Ali
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No spotlight on the holocaust denier buddy that you brought along to Georgia
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No shout out for him no screen time let's just pretend he's not there
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That's another editorial choice that Moyer is making
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Because recognizing that Fuentes was traveling with Ali and Alex
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is way too much for this documentary to try and explain to a non-indoctrinated audience
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It's inconvenient to the portrait of Alex who's seeking to paint unless it's just ignored
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The the little baby Nazi isn't there
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How how
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This isn't journalism
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Listen you're being unfair
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Explain to me how they could fit that in in a 7000 hour documentary
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There's no way
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Yeah
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There's no way you just look even Avengers had to cut some stuff
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Yeah you know what you do make a good point
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I do
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Because they needed to fit in important things like this from Georgia
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All right bucket list one more thing off the bucket list
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I just pissed on Jed Turner
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He's got five kids but says you shouldn't be able to have any
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Yes I just peed on it
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I peed on it
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He peed on the Georgia Guidestones
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I'll tell you what Duke Phillips would not be happy with that
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Alex pissed on the Georgia Guidestones
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Oh my god of course
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Alex's urine makes things explode
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It's corrosive
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That's the only thing that makes sense
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There's a two-year delay
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There is a delay but it does happen
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We don't have evidence that somebody else blew it up
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But we do have evidence that Alex peed on it
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I believe there was that car that they saw
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All right all right your point your point is fair
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Maybe someone else just ignited his
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Exactly exactly
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His pee was an accelerant
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Somebody tried to smoke a cigarette a little bit too close
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Went up
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He had a big night the night before
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A lot of whiskey
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Yeah a lot of whiskey
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So Alex reads from the side of one of the Guidestones
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That this is in a foreign language and this probably isn't defensive except I mean it is
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What to whom?
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What?
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I don't actually know who he's trying to offend
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Okay
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That's how good this is
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That's how good it is yeah
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You ready?
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You're right
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Kill me I love you
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I'm bad kill me billionaire it's all yours
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Their plan is called the great reset
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Their manual of operations is agenda 2030
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A public UN plan in the name of world peace and stopping hunger
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That actually shuts down the world economy and will cause massive depopulation
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This is the most dangerous dark satanic ideology to ever be on the face of this planet
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And it must be opposed
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So here's an interesting question that the documentary filmmaker could have asked
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Hey you're saying this agenda 2030 thing is the blueprint for how the globalists are going to kill
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Everyone but isn't that exactly what you said for like the last 20 years about agenda 21
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Is it possible that the whole thing was bullshit and then in 2021 you know agenda 21 came around
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You needed a new thing to pretend was the plan to kill everyone inquiring minds journalism all that
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Or I mean I guess you could just say you know you could let Alex say all this shit unquestioned
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And then agenda 21 never comes up that's certainly another option
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Yeah well I do feel like the director can get away with this
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Mainly because the first peoples that I think should be offended by Alex's impression
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Are all Star Trek aliens and then we get to regular human peoples you know
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Like there's a bunch of different alien races in Star Trek that would listen to that and be like
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This is unacceptable behavior we got to get to Captain Kirk we got to deal with this quick
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Because this is fucked up
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Yeah I don't know what Alex was on there about but don't
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Not good not good not good
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Yeah so Alex gets into talking now about his early media days
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And we're about to embark on another flashback and here's some bullshit
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And it was very very classical liberal and by that I didn't know if I was Republican or Democrat
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Because there were things I liked about both parties I did things I disliked but
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The average real liberal like knew about health food and was anti-war and
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Was free speech and seemed really informed and cool
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For a while I went and had jobs was dating a lot and you know out of high school wasn't really
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Worried about doing media for a while I thought maybe I'll do media because I want to be on air
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Just be able to talk and then I was watching access tv there were like rock and roll shows
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And a lot of Christian shows a lot of old ladies doing exercise shows it was it was everything
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Like we don't care what your speech is then I saw all these local co-experiency theorists
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That were talking about new world order and world government I thought that's what I'll do
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So some people might think it's shitty for you to bring up that abortions comment there
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I hope they don't but I accept that is fair
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But here's what I would say to that yeah um it doesn't come up Alex doesn't bring it up
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And normally I would say yeah it's your personal business whatever no big deal right but we know
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For listening to Alex that he's presented that as a pivotal moment in his life yeah when he realized
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He needed to get his shit together and fight the globalist after his dad told him stop killing my
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Grandkids yep so like that should be a moment that is of impactful enough nature that it should come
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Up in the retelling of his his life based on the details that he's given here and it doesn't it's
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Suspicious in its absence if you are going to argue to me that a man can tell the same story for
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20 years about his origins about abortion and shit and then gets to go into a documentary and just
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Omit that as though it never happened and that he doesn't have to deal with it then uh we don't get
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To talk anymore it's weird yeah so Alex wasn't a classical liberal and he he didn't have a thing
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Where he like you know he liked the left when he was younger no he was salieri he was a bircher at
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Best and if he had any complaints about the right wing it was that they weren't far right enough
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This documentary is allowing Alex to present himself this way unquestioned because he's
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Doesn't work for their purposes to treat him like an extreme right-wing ideologue from early on in
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Life it's far more attractive to present him as someone who's kind of in the middle and liked all
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Sorts of political ideas but he was driven towards the right by the extreme fanatics on the left who
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Are no longer free speech they don't like health food above the left-right paradigm yeah this is a
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Decision that Moyer is making because she wants to make her subject more attractive to a
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Non-exclusively extreme right-wing audience it's difficult to make her subject more attractive to
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It's deception by omission and allowing Alex to present things unchallenged yeah and I mean look
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Here's here's the bottom line too she has every right to do that you know if you want to make a
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Documentary that is a puff piece nonsense bullshit indoctrination whitewashing and sanitization of
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Alex Jones right by all means go ahead but I'm not going to put up with it for a fucking second
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Right that's fine right he can do this but to pretend that this is some kind of a like middle
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Of the road I'm just letting him tell his story thing is nonsense right now I agree with you
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But I also stipulate that she can do this in the world that we live in now and not one that
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Is good and while we don't need to argue about what the limits of good or bad are on speech or
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Etc I think we can both agree that this is bad so the end right yeah yeah yeah you're gonna see it
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You see here another editorial choice that I think is really glaring and that is the swelling music
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Accompanying Alex's decision to get into covering conspiracy theories in the new world order yeah
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You can hear the feeling that's intended to be uh you know purlaid there the clouds are parting and
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Alex sees his path that's not something that's being conveyed by Alex's words it's being stressed
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By the musical choices and directorial decisions that Moyer is making because that's how she wants
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The audience to see Alex there is a moment in a new hope that I hope every single human being on
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This planet remembers where Luke Skywalker is on Tatooine and he looks at the two suns setting and
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The swelling John Williams music plays to a point that I if you're not inspired by it go fuck
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Yourself that is what she's trying to do here Alex is not Luke Skywalker also based on your
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Misspeaking I just thought of a socialist Star Wars character Luke Skywalker
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So um fair enough uh somebody who else was a bit of a worker comes in now he's a former friend of
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Alex's I guess they're still friends but he goes way back yeah we are descendants from Davy Crockett
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Uh this is myself and my wife and if you go all the way over uh my fourth great-grandfather was
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Uh Nathan Crockett which is the brother of Davy Crockett and my fifth great-grandfather was his
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Father Davy Crockett man a lot of Davy Crockett oh so this is Mike Hansen uh he's one of the very
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Few non-current info wars employees who's allowed to speak in this documentary he was Alex's
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Original cameraman way back and was along for their fake infiltration of Bohemian Grove
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There's a reason he's included as a talking head in this film and other folks aren't and that's
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Because Alex uh is still very beloved to Mike Hansen he loves Alex right he has a huge room full
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Of pictures of Alex and archives of all their stuff including these shirt and shoes that he wore
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When they went into the Grove full disclosure I want those tapes that he has but the difference is
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That I want to create an archive of Alex's career that can be used by researchers to deconstruct
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Alex's body of work Mike has a giant shrine it's creepy yeah yeah no in uh in a uh Bill and Ted
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Situation you are George Carlin coming back from a perfect society being like okay if I get this
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Shit and take it back to the future then we will have a successful world yes so Mike is in this
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Film because he's a voice that can say that Alex is not only great now he's always been great and
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I would know because I was there including this voice and not other voices of people who were
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There and are now critical of Alex as an editorial choice on Moyer's part she doesn't speak to other
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People who were there when they went to the Grove like John Ronson or Alex's ex-wife who didn't go
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Into the Grove with them but was along for the trip the selection of voices that are allowed in
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This film is curated to create a particular image of Alex and people who are actually critical of
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Him and know him would threaten that image so they don't exist right and that is her choice
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So we get some clips of Alex from early early on in his life yeah and this one is weird I don't
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Know this is a weird thing to keep in yeah that's Alex Jones baby all right we're talking about
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Some serious issues today we're talking about how they got us divided it should not be front page
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News that Fuzzy Zeller said something racist even though he's an old fat racist who cares about an
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Old fat racist says something about an awesome man Asian African American who's worth probably
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100 million dollars who cares about words we're Americans we're all together in this boat yeah I
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Mean it's it's strange to see you know some of this earliest video of Alex he's minimizing racism
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Hey hey who among us cannot go back in time 20 years and say to themselves that yes this is a
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Country divided and it should be okay to be racist towards Tiger Woods who among us right this is
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Years before Obama allowed us to be racist towards the president it's so it's so weird to look like
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Oh 1997 what was Alex doing saying racism is not a problem present day what's Alex doing and and
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Again the country is divided 1997 I don't know if anybody's ever heard that sure currently no yeah
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So here's another clip of Alex and this is this is on location he took a trip we're here at the
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Alfred P Murrow building in Oklahoma City the site of the April 19th 1995 bombing and there's
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A lot of questions a lot of unanswered questions like why has the media ignored two seismograph
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Reports from the University of Oklahoma and the U.S. Geological Survey that show two distinct
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Explosion patterns why have they ignored the first preliminary reports of two explosions by people
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On the ground as witnesses and I am not sitting here claiming to having answers but I know this
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They don't want you to know something they're keeping something from you
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They've done it a to z from intimidation of witnesses to covering up evidence to destroying
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This crime scene this is tyranny at work one way or another either they're exploiting this
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Terrible tragedy and our children that died or they were actively engaged in it yes the federal
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Government this clip is just Alex being Alex man he's got a conclusion and he's going to accept
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Whatever half-cooked pieces of information he can find to justify it we talked about how the
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Two explosions and seismograph thing is bullshit back on an episode about Bill Cooper so I'm not
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Going to get into it here but look at what Alex is doing he's got an inaccurate piece of information
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He doesn't fully understand and he's using that lack of knowledge on his part to insist there must
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Be a conspiracy because of this incorrect information there are two possibilities either
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The government did this or they're covering up who did because they let it happen there isn't
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A third possibility to him that he never considers it and that's almost always the correct one that's
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That he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's wrong yeah this is the same shit with his
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Sandy Hook stuff all of it was based on incorrect information that he decided to accept is true
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So he could claim there were anomalies with the shooting that would justify him calling it a false
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Flag so he could pretend that the government was using mass shootings to push gun control
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He's kind of a one-trick pony and that one trick is being wrong yeah having flimsy justifications
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To rationalize being wrong yeah man you're right sometimes sometimes it would be nice if I had
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Something insightful or funny to say but sometimes it's just like yeah let's hear the truth happen
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How about that what a weird thing to happen it's late yeah but like you know I think that on
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One level in more competent hands in a actually well put together documentary you could have
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Stuff like this and you could juxtapose it with stuff about Sandy Hook yeah and you could make
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The point even without grilling Alex too hard that this is the same shit that he does all the time
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Absolutely that documentary this one does not do this that is not that documentary yeah the
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Behavior that he's displaying in Oklahoma City is looked at as good yeah it's it's fine I mean
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A softball interview proves Alex is a monster it is only a t-ball documentary that allows Alex to
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Exist the way he does mm-hmm yep oh I was like what's a t-ball documentary that took me a second
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Oh okay but it's now that you get it it's super good right yeah yeah the way it is late the way
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You were saying it made sense to me I got the point you were trying to make but like what's a
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T-ball right right right I get it I understand so anyway Mike Hansen has some words about Alex
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It wasn't very popular back then you were out there as a conspiracy theorist but Alex made it
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More popular because he was well-spoken and very professional he was kind of like the Dan rather
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The conspiracy theory world you can follow people around you can harass people you can back up your
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Banks your buddies but a revolution of peaceful information is coming and when it comes time you
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People are going to be brought to punishment so weird how this documentary doesn't even mention
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The existence of Bill Cooper it's nuts that they're just kind of pretending that Alex didn't
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Completely idolize him and pretending that he wasn't a giant figure in the anti-government
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Conspiracy world like Bill was already the conspiracy Dan rather yep Alex is a big deal
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That's fair enough but it's a little much to pretend that he was this much of a trailblazer
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Recognizing that Bill Cooper existed hurts the ability to create the image that this film wants
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To paint and that is that Alex entirely went his own way and created this this whole thing out of
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His desire to tell truth in Alex's war right no right all right he's following in Bill Cooper's
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Wake yeah yeah no bullshit it is uh yeah I mean they didn't bring up father Coughlin they didn't
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Say that Lord ha ha yeah they didn't say that like Wolf Blitzer was the Dan Rather of not being
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Edward R Moreau they didn't say all of those things there's no Keith Olbermann
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Olbermann involved so there's one one thing that Alex always talks about whenever people say that
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He's a racist and that is like I bullhorned the Klan right right right and so we get some video
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Of that and I think the context of it is actually really interesting when we were rebuilding it
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The Ku Klux Klan come down to wake up and Alex and I and a bunch of other people went over to
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Bullhorn yeah so Alex was bullhorning the Klan but it was really more about being defensive about
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Waco yeah I don't see any disagreement with the Klan so much as like I want more attention than
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The Klan and I have baselessly decided that you're all feds yeah um but like it really that context
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Is actually fairly important that yeah he bullhorned the Klan when they came to Waco when
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He was trying to be the guy who was rebuilding the French Davidian church he's not bullhorning
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The Klan no other times no he's bullhorning anyone who takes attention from him right not
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I mean anybody and if the Klan is the people who take the attention that's fine anybody who might
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Attract a right-wing patriot audience that could steal yes yes anybody who could be in a what you
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Might call a power struggle right right right no no totally he must deferential to Tucker because
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I could take Tucker's offense audience uh fuck the Klan because they're trying to take mine
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Mm-hmm yes so I would get Alex in the present day here talking a little bit and this is just
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So fucking stupid the general public are like babies inside the womb they don't even know
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What's going on in the outside world they're like inside their mother they have no idea what's going
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On I mean well there's these mad scientists trying to steal the future from them before they're even
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Born that's what it feels like so I'm outside I got outside the one and I'm not totally blind and
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I'm powerless to stop them even though I can tell people what's coming next it doesn't even matter
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They people just still think they can't deal with the magnitude of this and I understand yeah and
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These people they put uh hand puppets shadow puppets on the womb so they it's jeez that's how
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It works yeah just ripping off the allegory of the womb yep uh so that's cool also a little
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Condescending yeah you know but it's I'm we're all proud of him for having kind of almost learned a
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Thing about the past that maybe he can relate a little bit one of the most basic philosophical
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Things that you learn in you know maybe your first class of if you're in the womb you don't
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Expect to know the first principles of philosophy fine fair enough that is true so we there's more
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Of the past uh and one of the things is about you know they talk about alex going to bohemian grove
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Alex is a syndicated talk show host from Austin Texas he broadcasts from his bedroom down an
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Isdn line to eight million listeners alex believes that the shadowy elite at bohemian grove are the
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Puppet masters who control the world's governments banks the media and the united nations so a clip
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Of john ronson from the secret rulers of the world is played yeah not talking to him himself
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Right there is video that shows like b-roll that shows of his interview on c-span where he was
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Talking about how alex lied about what happened to bohemian grove they don't play that clip they
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Don't play the audio of it at all right there's no dissenting opinion everything is just reinforcing
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Alex's perception even if there are things that are very clear indications that you should have
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Access to the information that makes you responsible for pushing back on this a little bit
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Right it's fun that the juxtaposition of john and alex makes you think that the british won 1776
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But then piers morgan comes in later and well and then with the british really got their ass kicked
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We have all kinds of questions yeah it's it's a war it's not a battle so now we get to 2001
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Hello ladies and gentlemen i'm so glad that you could join us today for this wednesday july 25th
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2001 broadcast tyranny is enveloping the globe and the united states is a shining jewel the globalists
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Want to bring down and they will use terrorism as the pretext to get it done so this is his
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Prediction of 9 11 yes show yes and this documentary is pretending that bill cooper doesn't exist so
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There's no reason to explain that alex just stole this prediction from bill right this whole section
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Of the film is a really long greatest hits of alex's career that's meant to paint him as a true
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Renegade going against popular opinion to tell the truth about these tragic events it covers things
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Like okc waco and 9 11 but it's just surface level shit like alex saying this thing is a false flag
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And then alex in the present day will say boy that sure was a false flag it's meaningless and doesn't
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Talk at all about the details of stuff like how alex thought the eu did 9 11 then we have bohemian
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Grove in there but you don't really have any mention of ronson going on c-span and discussing
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How alex admitted to him that they he was lying to his audience about everything and even worse this
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Documentary just ignores so much of alex's career that doesn't fit its mold like what about y2k or
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Even larger what about the boston bombing that was a giant part of his career and he got it completely
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Wrong that was an event where he managed to send dan badandi to disrupt a press conference that the
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Authorities were holding to inform the public about the situation while the bombers were still
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Unknown and on the loose the public was living in fear and badandi was just yelling infowars.com
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At the police who were trying to calm the public you can make an argument that his coverage of the
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Boston bombing is in like the top five points of his career that bear mentioning and its omission
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Here is glaring and the reason is because it doesn't fit yeah you don't really get to hero
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To play that for a hero yeah the selection of what to cover and what not to cover is an editorial
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Choice that moir is making because these things are the building blocks of alex's mythology
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Whereas things like him being an idiot and gleefully exploiting a terrorized city isn't
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Necessarily good optics sandy hook will come up because it has to yeah but it's presented as more
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Or less the exception that proves the rule and even more poorly presented and we'll get to that
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Later yeah it's like the one blemish on his otherwise spotless record you know the thing
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That proves alex actually is human despite all this evidence to the contrary yeah the japanese
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Concept of the flaw that makes something perfect yes every mandala has a yes of course the sand
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That is off naturally so there's a lot you know there's these things from the past all of these
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Like oklahoma city uh waco 9 11 and some of it is mildly interesting but not really and some of it
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Is stuff that we've gone over ad nauseum so what's the point of readdressing it we are in we are in
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An interesting and unique situation where once again no one has seen this uh or the people who
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Haven't seen this or who are unfamiliar with alex have no idea what's going on and most of our
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Listeners would be incredibly bored by us telling the uh regular people insane information yeah
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Just i mean like basically the um the points of these things from the past are presenting alex's
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The activities surrounding these topics in the most generous and heroic life so totally now we
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Get back to the present and what do you know alex is a fucking hero we need y'all to keep walking bro
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china sucks
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yeah yeah oh this is so awesome
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there's a big rally on there much of the discussion of the past is framed as things
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uh alex did uh being unpopular he got fired for covering her in waco according to the stories
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here sure he lost all these stations for covering 9 11 as a false flag right he was punished for
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Telling the truth but he kept soldiering forward it's important to understand that framing as a
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Critical piece of this documentary's editing choices because when you now flash back to the
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Fall of 2020 and alex is at these stop the steel rallies he's having everyone yell that they love
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Him and all this which is meant to be experienced in contrast with how he was treated in the past
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right this is visually telling the audience that alex was right all along and though he
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suffered hardships at the end of that road the people realized he was right this is bullshit
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and it's not the impression you would get if this tour through alex's career treated his career
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Accurately and not like an embarrassing puff piece if you saw him fumbling around and saying
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Horrible racist shit or insinuating for months that the bath party were being reinstalled in
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Iraq or arguing that the eu did 9 11 or doing insane shit about oh Obama's birth certificate
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or his ebola bullshit or pizzagate or slandering the head of chobani or how he thought that obama
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was a secret muslim trying to use fema to turn the us into a caliphate under sharia law or all
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the times he insisted that ron paul was going to win the gop primary then you wouldn't see that
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smash cut to the present day the same way if you understood the clearer picture of his career you
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might see the people yelling out that they love him as pitiable people who've been sucked in by
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a con man but because this documentary only seems to care about presenting alex as a really solid
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information guy you see the people flocking to him and it's meant to look like they finally come
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around and recognize that alex is great this is a choice made by the editing that is being done
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by moyer yeah there's a reason that the discussion of sandy hook is separated from all of this past
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stuff yeah because that's not supposed to be seen as actually part of his career no no no absolutely
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not that was that was a blip that was a blip at worst it was a blip listen okay do you remember
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how that one time the united states was running these uh drills right and they didn't notify
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russia of it and these drills would be very similar to ones that you would do if you were
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launching a nuclear attack and russia because they didn't know that the united states was about to
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or was not going to launch a nuclear attack and only knew that these drills were happening
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decided that what they needed to do was launch an actual real nuclear attack and it was only because
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of the efforts of one heroic man that they did not shoot those fucking missiles right do you
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remember that blip yeah it's just a blip it's a blip nobody even remembers it no it's not that
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important no so alex like this presentation of him sucks it stinks um and it would not really
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be possible to achieve without very intentional choices being made yeah absolutely and how this
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information is being presented um no i mean what how how i how is it that we have trouble sleeping
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at night dan how is it that both of us struggle to sleep caffeine alcohol on your part um
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mental imbalance sure i don't know bad you name it yeah you name it so we we're now here in the
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fall of 2020 and uh mike flinn is giving a speech and this is that speech where trump flew over in
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a helicopter yes yeah and this moment is fucked up yeah i mean when you've been raked over the
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calls by the media like i've been raked over the calls by the media like my mom said sticks and
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stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me and and and i will tell you and i've
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said this before the media the media is doing an incredible disservice to this country
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that's pretty cool
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hey
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oh i'm sorry that was a different close i was so close
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i love it i love the fact that he does that i've been asked on a scale of one to ten
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who will be the next president of the united states and i say donald trump ten
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in
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the visuals of this are terrifying people are looking up at the sky as trump flies over in
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the helicopter there's a shot of mike lindell looking up like he's gonna cry there's this
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beautiful operatic music indicating an almost religious experience that people are having
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looking up to the heavens moyer chose to play that music underneath this video which gives it
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a very particular tone essentially that there's a giant cult of people who view trump as their
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savior but this documentary doesn't give you any reason to think that's a bad thing the subject of
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this film is the biggest trump supporter in the world who's cried on air about how he would die
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for trump there's no voice in this film that's critical of trump so the music doesn't really
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come off as heightening or highlighting something that is being commented on it kind of just fits
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and the film is treating like that it's that's okay yeah this is appropriate i found that really
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disturbing i mean the scene itself is disturbing and then the directorial choices that are made
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here are are just presented in a way that i find unnerving yeah yeah um i remember watching
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apocalypse now i hate that i'm making so many movie references but we are talking about well
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we haven't we also haven't heard alex make many movie references so it's kind of been a while
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low but i mean we are we are discussing a movie and we are discussing a person who's making a
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movie yeah and a person who's making a movie like you would make a hollywood movie and so if i was
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discussing a scene in apocalypse now where someone were to say i love the smell of napalm in the
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morning and i were to play the benny hill theme song or it might sound different that's our that's
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our theme song for the week apparently it's the only thing that's getting me through it really
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feels like it it really does it's been a long week it also hasn't been a week yeah that's fair
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so alex is at this rally where everyone is cultically looking up at the sky at trump
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flying over and there's a moment that happens that i found really disturbing it's a woman
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who's trying to climb over a fence to get a picture with alex oh that's great
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what
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this is trish from michigan that clip suffers from the same problem as the last one
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inside this film there's no reason to think it's weird for someone to be comparing alex to john the
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baptist this film is essentially justifying that conclusion by choosing to show what it shows
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a woman climbing over a fence to take a selfie with alex and compare him to john the baptist
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should be a shocking image and it should be troubling but in the context of this documentary
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if you accept the story as moyer is telling it why wouldn't you think that alex is john the baptist
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he's basically been right his entire career and persecuted for telling the truth about what was
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coming because that truth threatened the power structure this documentary allows alex to frame
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himself so unquestioningly that it makes sense that this woman views alex this way honestly it
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would almost be weirder if she didn't right that's fucked up so when we um we've now taken in a bit
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of alex as hero in the present vindicated for all the past uh all the past turmoil and troubles and
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now we jump back to the past right and we get we we pick up here um where alex is discussing uh
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i think he showed up at like um a convention uh and just talking about how like none of these
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candidates are good okay like basically he's photobombing the news okay well we're gonna
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leave it at that thanks very much we'll be back good morning america garden a few minutes and
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susan of course the floor is empty but they're here unless we be accused i'm not hearing all
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voices we cut you off a moment ago this is alex jones from austin texas a radio talk show host
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yes sir with info wars dot com both candidates are cousins they're skull and bones they're
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bringing in big government and tyranny the evidence is clear the military industrial complex
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was intimately involved in 9 11 the commission is a complete fraud we're losing our freedoms
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both parties are controlled and if we don't wake up and stand up and speak out this country's going
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to be destroyed giving up liberty only gives us tyranny it does not give us security and i hope
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that everybody out there wakes up to this and realizes that america is america because we have
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the bill of rights and constitution everybody should investigate 9 11 and find out who's really
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behind it it's bushes and the new world order's right stag and his cousin carrie isn't going to
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save you either thank you prison planet.com alex jones they always say the same thing
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you want to be on this crusade that's going nowhere or do you want to be a star
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fox news offered me multiple jobs asked me to move to manhattan they were looking for somebody
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that's the next rush limbaugh and we'll have editorial control you'll get multiple book deals
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a year you'll have a national tv show and uh we just want to do this and then when i refused fox
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news right before glenn beck was picked and appeared they would have articles saying jones
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wants to be on fox news but fox news doesn't want him so now we see the new world order
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and fox news doesn't want him so now we see flashing back to the past again but it's important
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to understand what track we're on this is the track that leads to him supporting trump which
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has to be contextualized by pointing out alex's renegade individuality throughout his political
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career here he is talking about how bush and carrie both suck yeah you know he doesn't want
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to be a part of fox news yeah they conveniently ignore his constant support for ron paul's
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candidacies because why provide context when you can just pretend that trump was alex's first love
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this is the section where sandy hook will come up because this documentary wants alex's coverage
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of sandy hook to be understood in a very specific way which we'll discuss when we get there also
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if alex had ever taken one of those job offers at fox he would have lasted about as long as
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michael savage did at msnbc yeah he would have been shit cans so fast he can't play ball yeah
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i mean it's here you know you want to say with with the 20th of 20 hindsight's that he knew
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what was happening but he did what was happening is that he spoke in short sentences confidently
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loudly and quickly and nobody knew at that time that that's all you needed to do to dominate the
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entire american consciousness i would argue that sometimes it was also run on sentences
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well you are not wrong they give the appearance of like an over abundance of information that
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you're delivering i mean it's really just killing time until you figure out what the next sentence
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here's what i'll say here's what i'll say and i want to try and describe it this way like
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back then if you were to take his words you could put it into like guitar tablature and you would
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have a clearer idea of why people enjoyed it than you would if you listened to his words do you know
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what i'm saying yeah like it's music to people yeah it might be more rhythmic yes then uh
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exactly so it's like bass tabs instead of guitar tabs i mean it's hard not to look at it and say
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that there's a definite call and response uh history to it you know like this is the history
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of baptist preaching that's why i mean it goes back that's why he's so effective at getting
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chance go of course of course so at this point alex has rejected these deals from uh from fox
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news he doesn't want to support bush or carrie absolutely not he's a rogue just like us not
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advertising for mattresses he's out in the wild no one he's no one's uh uh person right um but
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he's also in waking life and so here's a little clip of him in waking life it's gonna be the age
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of humankind standing up for something pure and something right what a bunch of garbage liberal
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democrat conservative republican it's all there to control two sides of the same coin we're gonna
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get fired up about the real things the things that matter creativity and the dynamic human spirit
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that refuses to submit i didn't really care about hollywood my goal wasn't to be in movies my goal
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was to be embraced by all that so i mean like no mention of star lord he's so close yeah he
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was supposed to get there he would have gotten paid more than guardians of the galaxy more than
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chris pratt how does that not come up he would have been paid more than chris pratt yeah so all
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of this is just meant to be like this rejection of of the the mainstream or whatever there's a
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world where alex shows up in jurassic world like hey lizard raptors hey blue you and i are friends
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now come on now hey raptors i'm your buddy blue come on i don't remember the other raptors name
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why would you neither of us saw the movie i did really the first one oh no i was talking
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oh okay i saw the first of the new ones oh i haven't seen any i was curious fair enough it
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was fine so um alex doesn't like hollywood yeah uh he hates the west coast sure cool charlie sheen
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was the only guy seen in public with me or talked to me but now i'm going to some parties and stuff
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with some of the biggest hollywood stars i left this feels creepy it feels empty i've never felt
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this weak it was a feeling like a big spider sucking my soul torture secret arrest america
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if there is a satan and it's it's truly on this planet it resides on the west coast in between
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silicon valley and los angeles that's the most evil place in the world i've been he might have
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just been jet lagged um and then also like he shouldn't be saying if there's a devil he talks
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about the devil all the fucking time i mean if there's a devil should never come near alex's
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mouth yeah pretty stupid it breaks my heart because that's fundamental to his existence
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yeah not on this documentary though well that's fair that is fair yeah you know it's almost like
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suspicious in its absence from this documentary is alex explaining that all of his enemies are
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literally controlled by the christian devil it does feel like if your fundamental issue with
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the globalists is that they are controlled by the literal christian devil that should also be the
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centerpiece of your documentary does that seem i feel like i'm not being crazy no no you're totally
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right it just makes it makes sense there's shockingly little in terms of no devil is the
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cause of all of my problems no certainly not that but there's also very little of his religious
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fundamentalism oh do you mean the thing that's most central to his coverage and topics there's
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no footage of him uh praying on air none yeah weird you know the thing that he doesn't do
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yeah yeah so anyway the liberals they i forgot it was our fault they loved alex back in the bush
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days correct then they didn't like oh no i think it's fair to say that the liberals liked me or
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also thought it was kind of a joke that thing you hear in the background that belly of the beast
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they played that video of him and rogan running around in that bush mask gotcha so that was what
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that was not a street fighter video no gotcha and so yeah it was more like oh yeah that's just a
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crazy guy in austin all they saw was i was against bush and then obama came in and go yeah but you're
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attacking obama now so then at the end there is the obama uh joker thing that is that classic
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really thought that one was the street fighter video no well i mean i wasn't blanca no no it's
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a dlc alex as obama joker is uh that's available in street fighter 11 i think well done so um
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yeah so alex is continuing this narrative of persecution sure and sticking to his guns and
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be having like a principle yeah like i was the same liberals loved me because they thought i
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hated george bush but i also hated obama and then they stopped liking me again i was punished again
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for my integrity above it right and so you have this path that is being walked um and they flash
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flash a clip up here of uh alex talking about the operational lockstep document oh no back in 2010
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no yeah he was not he was do you know he wasn't he was you and i both know he wasn't no i do know
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that he was okay i mean i'm not even worthy to be bringing you information this powerful
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and i hope that you pay attention to what we cover here minute by minute
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because i've had chills uh since last night uh this just confirms everything else we've already
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researched yeah so he's covering the document that is now known as operation lockstep right it
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wasn't known as that in 2010 right but here's the thing the video that's used in the documentary
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doesn't come from the original show that alex did the graphics that it uses are similar to
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those in this little sizzle video that alex put together on his website in the alex jones
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prediction section that's meant to show that alex jones is right about everything that's not great
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to imagine that instead of using primary sourcing this documentary might rely on a propaganda video
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made by infowars designed specifically to pretend that alex predicted covid over a decade ago
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i probably wouldn't do that i i i don't i don't know i i would just use the raw video of alex
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from 2010 because it's available obviously okay i'm gonna tell you this uh we all watched it on
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stream but there was a point at which the defense's lawyer uh argued that the plaintiffs
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making them look dumb was in fact a sanction by the court well right now the plaintiff's attorney
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it's an interesting angle that to the judge and the judge said back the only person who's making
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you look dumb is you yeah the only person who can make you look dumb is uh you know the only person
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uh you got you have your choice it feels like we're here does that make yeah yeah yeah the
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only person who can make this documentary as bad as it is is the person who made this documentary
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got it and i have some choice words oh boy two hours worth of oh god so alex is you know he's
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talking he says some other bullshit in the year 2023 covid 22 has been released and no one's
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allowed to go outside and tens of millions are dead who were shot and killed for leaving their
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houses they're going zero to a trillion miles an hour we went into warp we're in warp right now
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trillion miles an hour is not possible hundred years you were wondering and that's where my
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study of history and uh religions and science ends because whatever it is they're tuned into
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is beyond my knowledge that's bullshit alex has very frequently talked about how god has given
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him visions of everything that's gonna happen and that he's a psychic i'm gonna guess that he didn't
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say that because he doesn't want people who don't already like him to know that he's that nuts
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also this is a more recent thing but it's still part of this descent into the past based on him
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predicting covid back in 2010 right we're still on that track of alex being a renegade who has
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no team who the liberals liked because he was criticizing bush and then they stopped liking
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him when he attacked obama that's the main theme of this section that we're in or the river that
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we're in as alex would would put it i i am frustrated by the general vibe i'm getting
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that this documentary is meant entirely to rehab alex's previous five years of being a
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far-right nut job into returning to some sort of pre-obama era above the left right
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paragraph paradigm version of himself is that what i'm hearing well i mean i think that's probably
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one of the goals they would like to explore yeah it seems like that i think whatever positive
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interpretation that becomes of alex after this is what they're going yeah you're right that would
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be it's offensive for me to ascribe to them intent because that would suggest competence on some
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level well and alex just said he doesn't know what the future holds i mean really he doesn't so maybe
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the left right paradigm is good the future is holding him broke is what it is look he just he
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has simple wants he just wants to be good so his soul can go to heaven that's all all right i'm so
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past the politics and all the names and all the stuff doesn't matter anymore that's guilty because
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i've not raised my kids perfectly and i'm like really uh freaked out by all this and just trying
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to uh have a relationship with god so that my spirit gets out of this i want to die i mean i
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really that's all i think about now cheating on my wife's with god and i want to get out of this now
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and god says i'm not allowed to so so that's it it's bad though it's gonna get real bad
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like you realize it's not gonna be here soon i told my son three years ago i said you're
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getting out of high school a couple years there's nothing being a college for you son
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it's all gonna be shut down it's all gonna be over you see son uh everything's over
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there's no going to college and that's why i spent your education fund on taking a trip to
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california the evilest place on earth so i could do mushrooms with mike tyson what the fuck are you
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talking about asshole the fuck out of here with this overly dramatic nonsense look look he tried
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to smoke his son because he thought his son was a toad after smoking toad this happens he was just
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licking his son this is no yeah and as we have found out that's just not how you get high off
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of toad no nor nor alex's son it's not safe so um you know we're trudging through this past of alex's
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uh sort of political uh rebellious this is your life and so we get now to the point where he
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yells at piers morgan pierce don't try what your ancestors did before why don't you come to america
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i'll take you out shooting you can become an american and join the republic hitler took the
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guns stalin took the guns mal took the guns the del castro took the guns hugo chavez took the
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guns and i'm here to tell you 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms we will not
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relinquish them do you understand suspicious in its absence from this is the uh subsequent uh time
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when alex showed up at a piers morgan event oh yeah begged him to come back on the show and piers
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was not interested in talking to him man i bet there's no recording of that and there's no way
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to hear any evidence that i wish that i had the time to go through all the archives because uh
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it's been on our show yeah you would have to listen to our show yeah or um his i think i
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think he played it on his show that would make sense but i wouldn't ask anyone ever to do that
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that's fair yeah so now from there we jump to trump trump jump um and look trump just
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latched on to what alex was doing so real quick obviously the point of this is going to be that
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he was yelling hillary for prison and then trump took that and his locker up yes but alex has said
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that he stole hillary for prison from somebody's like bumper sticker that he saw sure and so that
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person is actually responsible no no you generate an idea if you steal it from somebody who's
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anonymous because they can't argue against you that's how it works that's a great point yeah
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what's coming by hillary for prison there it is folks the hillary for prison banner
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trump tapped into the same populist anger the same popular concern that i've been tapped into
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the whole takeover failed didn't it and now who gets to talk to the president who gets to talk
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to supreme court justices alex jones that's true alex jones he was a nice guy actually you like him
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that's when the media took the gloves off and went from twisting stuff sometimes more playful like i
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was a joke to like every newspaper runs an ap article every newspaper runs a new york times
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article by every paper i mean thousands so in case it's not explicit enough here is rob do
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laying out that alex is responsible for trump being president here we go alex jones made trump
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whether anybody wants to believe that or not the only reason that man is in office is because of
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alex jones the spirit of america can you feel it rising trump feels it he knows it he loves it
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he loves it so uh here is where things i would say become entirely unacceptable yeah so alex
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is talking about how uh you know he basically was what trump was vibing off of right and trump
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liked him trump came on his show right hillary started to get mad at him and here's what happened
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trump's real crime was trying to actually be the president and coming in and not letting special
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interest run things and that enraged the permanent bureaucracy that we know of as the deep state
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the people are so awake i mean i'm not kidding every second person i walk by is a listener when
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they saw that they're like oh he's just not the crazy guy on the internet now we have to go back
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and see oh where did he fuck up that we could go get him at from sea to shining sea now we gotta
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destroy alex jones man i'm really upset i mean i'm gonna be honest with you i'm totally freaked
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out and i told you this last week before the shooting i just love my children so much and i
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love my children so much in their innocence i love other people's children this is no exaggeration the
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last way that any self-respecting filmmaker would cover this subject matter sandy hook is not coming
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up as an instance of something really really bad that alex did in his career it's being presented
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as something that people are only mad about because they needed an excuse to attack him
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because he supported trump this is a choice that alex moyer is making as a filmmaker she didn't
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have to include the sandy hook outrage as merely the result of people needing to justify hating
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alex jones alex's sandy hook coverage isn't even mentioned chronologically because in the context
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of this documentary the important thing isn't his coverage it's the way people got unfairly
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mad about it because he liked trump there's no counterbalance to this depiction at all this is
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an unchallenged position in the film which is editorially supported by the way that moyer has
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edited this documentary if she thought that alex's claim was at all dubious she could reach out to
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one of the sandy hook parents to discuss how they were trying to get alex to stop this shit long
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before he cared about trump or if she wanted to give the impression that she disputed his claim
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she didn't have to structure and edit the film to comport with alex's narrative again much like with
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the john the baptist thing if you believe what this documentary is presenting you have no reason
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to not believe that people are only mad about sandy hook because alex supported trump the story
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as it's told leads you to no other conclusion and that is a choice that is a choice that's being made
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in the creation of this documentary that it's unacceptable and to recognize that this is
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intentionally being released during the sandy hook trial makes this outrageously offensive yeah this
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is unacceptable yeah and alex moyer uh i don't know what the fuck you think you're doing but
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this is this is tragic i i'm causing ptsd i mean is that what you want to say i mean part of part
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of the problem is one one you said everything that needs to be said about that that is that is it and
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anybody who tries to counter or even add anything to that is wrong yeah i mean there's a reason that
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the discussion of sandy hook as the one thing that alex fucked up isn't included in the timeline of
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his career and all these greatest hits yeah it's because it's a prop in order to justify why people
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are so angry at him it's because he likes trump and they just they picked through his career to
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find something they could be mad about yeah and fuck that that's like i understand that this is
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an argument that's going to be made that it's like i'm just presenting him the way he is you make your
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own judgments but that's bullshit there is a judgment that you as a filmmaker are making by
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presenting this information that way yeah that is not an unbiased oh this is who he is this is how
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it is no fuck that noise yeah it's still fine to make this documentary i'm not saying you should be
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silenced or like you shouldn't be allowed to make this documentary or anything like this i mean to
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find silenced and then we'll talk but you can you can scream over it yeah you want that's a form of
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silence see there we go using your free speech yeah there we go but i like i don't think i don't
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think that like you shouldn't be allowed to do this but you also should recognize that what
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you're doing at core is malicious it is unacceptable and i i can't wait to see what other
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bullshit she's going to do in her career yeah this is the kind of documentary that if january 6th
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had gone the other way would be looked at by history as a lenny reifenstahl's document yeah
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the same way we would look at nazi documentaries yeah 100 the people in 20 years would look back
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on that like holy shit can't believe it but january 6th didn't go that way and so we have
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a couple years until we look at it that way i mean when you bring up january 6th it does
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pull back a little bit on terms of the view if if and i mean that clip of alex jones on the view
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uh no that one that one is very narrow yeah and direct uh no i'll try and i'll try and keep this
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short but by bringing up january 6th that does require you to kind of pull back from the sandy
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hook situation he's absolutely a monster and then you pull back and it's further than that you know
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like the i by no means am i minimizing what he's done to the families of sure hook but also
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overthrowing an entire country that's also pretty big sure you know and and to a certain extent
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whenever the point is made that trump wouldn't be president without alex which is debatable
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but there is something no no and and and here's what i'm gonna say about that yeah when we talk
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about nuance one way to view that is by math just very simple and the fact that we are very capable
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of talking about nuance but when we talk about it we're not able to really get to the fact that
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if alex is 20 responsible for trump becoming president then he is responsible for trump
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becoming president because of the margins without that 20 so that we're not able to really deal with
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right now and we're not and even to make your point further like there's no way that we can
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create a counterfactual reality where alex's earlier career didn't exist and the parts of
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it that involved the tea party of course and he helped start the oath keepers right and all of
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these things like the ripple effects of these things from further back in his career and how
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many of those had an indirect effect in getting trump elected yeah and so like there is no way
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to quantify that um so i think it is kind of fair to say like in whatever sense right alex could be
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seen as somebody who helped push it over the hill at very least i mean you're you're absolutely
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right the problem with the word nuance is that we all understand what it means but if you try
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and quantify it you're fucked yeah yeah so let me but the larger point is this documentary sucks
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100 i'm sorry i wasn't trying to like tangentially no no you're fine you're fine over you know what
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i'm saying but yeah alex is talking here a little bit about sandy hook and he says something not
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good i am not the sandy hook man sandy hook man sandy hook man sandy hook man big events when they
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first happened the internet was questioning many anomalies of sandy hook some of which turned out
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to not be real anomalies some of which were still unsolved anomalies which ones good question which
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ones alex we'll find out in trial tomorrow right no no we won't yeah also in this documentary you're
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saying that some reasons that you questioned sandy hook were legitimate what what anomalies which
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ones dumb dumb unfortunately dari has said today some reasons that they questioned sandy hook were
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a good idea yeah i guess bad move i guess that's their position good luck stinks good luck so they
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play some clips from the depositions and i will say they don't play the ones that are meaningful
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but mark and bill both make an appearance in this documentary as the people grilling alex and right
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right rob do oh they're the villains right there is no mention of the fact that this deposition
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that they play of rob dues is the one where he's there as a corporate representative it doesn't
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know what that means no clue um there is no mention of any of the discovery issues or any
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of the bad behavior that alex has carried down in court the abusive practices these clips i believe
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are used to make it look like the lawyers are bullying alex yes can i say one thing before you
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play this clip can i say one thing yeah all right daria was asked today why did rob do leave the
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company and what she did not say was what i think we all secretly believe is because he would never
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become the corporate representative for infowars again under oath and that is why daria is sitting
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in that stand right oh i thought the reason was because he's tied up in a bunker sure that
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could be hiding him that could be yeah there is also another possibility yeah he's been dead for
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a month that works he's in a freezer yeah i i i like i was watching that and i think her answer
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was he decided to move on yeah exactly from this mortal coil this exact moment that i am existing
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in yeah yeah no one wants that no so anyway here are some clips mistake or not mistake
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anderson cooper was in front of a blue screen
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the only reason i would say it's not 100 because somebody asked him if he was there and he denied
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being at the at the funeral you know that's not true no there's video of it there's video of a
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guy asking him during a taping of a show he said hey were you at the the funeral and he goes no i
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the funeral and he goes no i wasn't right he wasn't at and inside the funeral
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recently your lawyer said in a legal document there is no dispute that the sandy hook tragedy
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was real with tragic loss of life you stand by that that's what you admit is true now
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yes okay so there's just like the appearance of them badgering him and like it's it's it
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creates the appearance of like alex is a victim in this whole thing there's no recognition of
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the fact that it is these parents who are suing him there's no recognition of what they've gone
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through it is an entirely one-sided presentation of his sandy hook legal troubles which again are
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presented as only the result of people trying to find something to be mad at him about because he
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sports trump yeah this is stupid i've watched far too many true crime documentaries to hear a clip
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of somebody saying no i saw that in a video and if they don't follow that up with the video then
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you didn't see it in that video you probably didn't yeah it's tough to uh and a good true
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crime documentary immediately shows that video proof yep yeah it's very simple yeah if rob do
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had this video you think well just play it you'd think oh boy it seems like that's what the do the
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plaintiffs are doing so alex is a baby and one of the things that he likes to do is whenever people
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are like hey man you did some really fucked up stuff about sandy hook and your behavior was
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abhorrent and uh you probably you know owe these people some money for defamation right right
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what have you and set yourself on fire like a buddhist monk in vietnam well see that's what
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he thinks people are asking him to do he's wow that's what i'm asking maybe i should be executed
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for questioning things i'm fine with that i'm not gonna say you should be but i'm fine with it and
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then we accidentally take a hard left turn oh no right into the one of the episodes of how not to
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cover alex so okay let's put me in prison for questioning okay even though that's my right
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in fact let's execute alex jones let's let's put me in front of a firing squad and pull the trigger
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the paradigm of absolute control and that's why we're just out here doing simple things
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pointing out that we're meant to be in nature it'd be natural and this is where we find the
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source that god made to transcend the new world order and that's why they want to try to keep us
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out of it
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so
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that makes me think alex more than indie music you know that indie folk sound that's an alex sound
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so i let that go on as long as i did because i wanted to illustrate that they play almost
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the entire boniver parody video of alex because it's it's the most uh like it works for him he
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loves it yep and um so that's fun um but also he doesn't own that song they don't have permission
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to use it and so i was thinking hey this is a copyright strike right here it actually is
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yeah um so i it really is like no joke i don't mean to tell tales out of school but i got in
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touch with the guy who made that video no shit and i was like hey just a heads up they used your
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shit in this documentary i don't i know you didn't give them permission we'll see what
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happens well unfortunately it turns out he doesn't have the copyright himself to that song
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so if super deluxe wants to oh it's super deluxe if they want to put a copyright strike on this
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they are more than welcome to well we've got a better chance than if it was via com true
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maybe yeah so uh that uh is is just fun so now we smash cut forward to uh the january 6th era
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and so january 5th is here here's a little interview with uh owen on the evening January 5th
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yep they all got together and the documentary filmmaker was like why are you burning this black
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lives matter flag and he was like because it's so great um no that doesn't come up oh no um but it
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isn't the evening of january 5th oh odd yeah and it is owen huh yeah this must have been just before
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a weird part right yeah yeah i wonder if the documentarian was there and saw him burning that
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flag or just didn't uh go along for that who knows anyway suspicious in its absence odd i believe the
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order will be alex jones myself mike flinn i believe roger stone tomorrow's the day that
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could determine the 2020 election while millions of trump supporters and patriots are in dc so
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that's pretty much where we're at right now yeah so that's where we're at he's talking about how
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some speeches are going to happen that night and also we're gonna go burn a black lives matter flag
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and chant fuck antifa and uh no it was kran tifa they were still on that tip uh the cranberry juice
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yeah yeah absolutely okay so here's alex on the sixth there's a good bit of uh you know video of
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you know video of stuff on the sixth and what have you but here he is he's leading the march
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yeah there is uh and uh he's got a tone ladies and gentlemen this is such a historic moment together
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this is such a historic moment as america awakens to the new order here's an incredible honor
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an incredible pleasure to get to meet to see so many amazing human souls
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somebody great americans
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nobody planned this but trump's actually getting his inauguration on january 6 2021 right now folks
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they've really screwed the perch on this we're going all out peacefully we have the facts on
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our side we want any violence we decry violence we're not blm we're not we're here to let the
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system know that we know we had our votes stolen and we could put millions in the streets when
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biden can't even fill six circles in his little coven videos yeah so he's riling people up with
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all the exact same uh rhetoric and the ideology that led to everyone storming the capital yeah and
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give me give me the rough cut of this entire documentary without the music added
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i won't change a single scene and all i will do is change the music and you will hear a completely
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documentary a completely different documentary probably i mean i could play soul coffins i don't
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need to walk around in circles and you would listen to that clip listening to i don't need
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to and you'd be like oh yeah this is a fucking moron it is that simple this is a music made by
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music entirely the documentary almost yeah yeah which almost warms my heart because i love music
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because i love music so much you know what i would like to see what's that replace all of it with the
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cantina theme so and now that alex has led this march to the capital yes things go bad oh we're
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remember when now i will when did they go back well i will say that this documentary omits uh
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harrison talking about how the capital has fallen that's weird and the patriots have taken over i'm
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going to tell you this right now i feel like they're leaving some things that might be important
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yeah out yep okay but here's alex is glenn greenwell happy with it he loved it okay so
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here's alex trying to get people to stop uh rioting and uh storming the capital right um
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there is one point that i want you to listen closely for because alex is not getting anyone
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to listen to him and you can hear ali alexander say hey try a chant no all right so this is down
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for this jordan yeah
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hey
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end america end it end it now the end if you're trying to stop people from taking over the capital
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uh to get rid of the illegitimate government that you believe has taken over the country
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i don't know if chanting usa is gonna really calm people down but he tries dear dear every
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creative person that has ever existed do you remember that time when you were like here's
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what i'm gonna do i'm gonna put into this section of my creative endeavor where somebody an american
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tries to calm a crowd down or change their minds by just randomly chanting usa you remember when
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you were going to do that and you were like that might be a step too far you were wrong no it
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happened wrong and it turns out it didn't work
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listen to me listen to me we've got a permit on the other side it's great that this happened
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but they're gonna trump's not gonna come when we've taken this over we're not antifa we're not the
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arab you're amazing i love you let's march around to the other side and let's not fight the police
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and give the system what they want we are peaceful we won this election and as much as i love seeing
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the 12 quads running over this we need to not have the confrontation with the police they're
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going to make that the story i'm going to march to the other side where we have a stage where we
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can speak and occupy peacefully tell everybody behind you march to the other side march to the
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other side you guys are great but the police have caused the problem and the police are throwing
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flash things we don't want to have a kid state here so i love you we're saving the republic
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this is beautiful but please tell everyone you know march to the other side so there's there's
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a dynamic that i think could be explored interestingly by a different documentary than
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this and that is alex being unable to control the monsters he creates he has done his part to create
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the exact situation that unfolded on january 6th and here he is yelling in a bullhorn unable to
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stop people from doing the thing he's pretending he doesn't want them to do yeah and that is a kind
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of sad picture and it's very similar to the way that he's unable to stop his listeners from
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harassing sandy hook parents yeah like he created this atmosphere he created this thing and even if
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he does like eventually say hey i think kids died i'm sorry he's not able to stop the ball that he
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started rolling down the hill yeah he can't stop these people from uh wanting to take over the
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capital after you have yelled into a bullhorn all day about how your vote was stolen from you
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and this is illegitimate and we need to take back our country you have you have no power over the
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monster you create you have the power to rile people up and create this atmosphere that you're
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impotent when it comes to stopping it yeah and that's partially because you don't actually want
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to stop it yeah i mean so this what this reminds me of is uh despite him being a horrific terrible
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shitty person uh in the book speaker for the dead orson scott card uh had a character who was
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i mean essentially living out an alex jones fantasy so he built up this uh mob as as one
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would describe it and the way orson uh goes through it is that this guy is in control of
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this situation he builds this mob together and he pulls it and then without his ability to control
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it it becomes a thing it becomes a a general consciousness so despite the fact that it's a
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bunch of different separate individual human beings it is one mob right and then he the
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main the character he is now the enemy of the mob the character's like oh this is a bad idea
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and tries to go hey mob let's not do this guess how it goes they attack him yep and alex is
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honestly lucky that the mob didn't turn on him it is surprising he's alive in that in that
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environment him coming up and being like hey everybody no no no stop don't do this or whatever
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it's easy to be like oh look at that fucking fed he's uh he's telling us not to do the thing that's
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the natural conclusion of everything he's been saying for the last months absolutely yeah i mean
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we've talked about it how many times but it's like just because you split infinitives doesn't
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mean you change the meaning of your sentence true but you still shouldn't split infinitives
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you i mean it's just bad writing it's a thing to badly do well done so um alex now poorly
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goodly done sure what nope that wasn't okay so alex now uh has had to deal with the fact that
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biden won although he's still in denial about right so now we're on his show now we've grown
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up we get to the day of the inauguration sure and alex announces the death of america because
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he's a whiny little titty baby right from the front lines of the information war it's alex jones
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so ladies and gentlemen it is zero hour january 20th 2021 and the 46th president of the united
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states has just been installed in a giant coup for the globalist and the communist Chinese joe biden
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looking like a corpse with fake hair blowing around it's actually jim carrey
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one of the clearly say america was born july 4th 1776 you can really say it died january 20th the
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year 2021 very dramatic yeah very very dramatic i mean in some ways he also has said the capital
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has fallen you know just with a different tone the capital has fallen in as much as
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it's the same as ever yes the capital was in the hands of the patriots for a very short period
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of time right when it was higher it was schrodinger's uh capital because it was up for grabs yes
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um and then once we observed it well now we're fucked yeah yeah so i guess i mean if you want to
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be like kind of i don't know here's one uh you know what's crazy i mean in all honesty there is
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a part of that that is the republican argument against trump being uh trump losing the election
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uh trump losing the election is like if you hadn't counted the votes we wouldn't be here right they
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don't say it like that but yes yeah i mean isn't it yeah so here's the here's one reading of this
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documentary's arc that i think is not what they intended but if you want to be really cynical
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about this sure and ignore all of the music cues and the entire structure i don't need to walk
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around in circles dan you have basically alex's like his whole career he's this guy who everybody
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looks down on because he won't compromise his views and he tells the truth no matter what
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right it's cost him his job because of waco and all these stations because of 9 11 in his liberal
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fan base because he wouldn't accept obama true and all this and then finally he's vindicated
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right in the lead up to the 2020 uh election and the stop the steal stuff right he's finally a man
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because of trump who is seen as the guy right he's been right all along and we were foolish not to
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listen to him and then he has this combinatory moment on january 6th and he is completely
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unable to stop the crowd from taking the logical next step in his rhetoric which actually doesn't
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serve his purposes very well of course not it doesn't end up working and then biden is president
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and so it's kind of like a deflation yeah it's almost like all that stuff he was right about
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it really didn't matter no because trump lost in 2020 and they weren't able to overthrow the
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government you know it is a little bit like um boy sucks to be impotent yeah and politically
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especially like in the it's partially because there's nothing behind what he's saying if you
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were there's no meat on the bone and therefore there's no protein if you were i don't know if
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that works it's no i i understand what you're saying you just don't eat meat off the bone so
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i can't engage with your it's true rib boy i can't engage with your metaphor because i just
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don't believe you fair enough uh but but it is it is a little bit like while his speech is going on
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you know right before the end whenever nobody pays attention to him if you'd played the benny hill
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theme song same thing or cantina theme ah come on we can't go back to that well too many times it's
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in a cantina fine so um there's one scene left in the documentary and it it's closing with alex
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and his son out shooting uh and this is the image this really humanizes this is the image that
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wants to leave you with the documentary wants to leave you with this image of him and his son
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shooting guns and having some family time of course and then this clip ends with a really
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wistful clip from alex's past no and it's refused it's the wrong message to end this with oh no
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he really just needs a space where he can roam and be free he's like a buffalo hey rice i was gonna
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shoot i've known her 27 years and i've never thought about how is this gonna affect me
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my fear is a failure not of death
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but they could put me in prison or they could kill me at any time
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i just hope that i can do the best job i can to maintain doing good work in the future
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however long that is and i've already had a great life okay just aiming right at the sun
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get that whole cloud back
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is the sun setting on america and representative democracy or is it rising on a new day of people
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that are well informed so a young alex is monologuing over video of like a really beautiful
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sunset sure sure sure and it's like oh fuck yourself i've got you have you've not it's not
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only that you haven't earned this you've earned the opposite yeah this is disgusting yeah yeah
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absolutely i there's one last clip if oh okay if you uh keep going okay yeah so this is just where
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that thought uh ends so they have the shot of the sunset and then this is alex coming in with the
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parting shot of the documentary the weirdness i've seen in my life the bizarre happenings
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just the the the incredible discoveries that i've been blessed to be part of
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truth is stranger than fiction
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and that's not because i'm alex jones it's because of the time i am neil's bore in such
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an incredible time right now but really my personal best moments of my life are feeling
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that zen understanding of timelessness and those moments in eternity that are
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endless those are the best moments of my life and really realizing that we're just part of
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infinity and also when i did mushrooms with mike tyson i remember when amitaba buddha said uh
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shoot me in the fucking face if that asshole talks about me and you see the steps and you
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know that it's not going to go exactly how you want it to but there's going to be a goal to you
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reach that's better for everybody and you know it's going to be painful and it's going to be
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going to make mistakes you know you're going to hurt people on the way but you're doing it
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from a place of goodness and so you forgive yourself for that it's that the process of
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being destroyed that by the end you're complete i want to die it's kill me right now in this hotel
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room it's a fairly tacky way to end this for me to die i mean what am i gonna do what is better
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than this i gotta say i think ending the documentary with alex expressing forgiveness for
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himself is maybe not the way i'm really grateful that i'm allowed to be uh uh not responsible for
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any of my actions ever it's possibly uh offensively indulgent i mean you know here's how this ends
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here's how this ends in a good world uh animal house uh freeze frame words saying alex is on the
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lamb never seen again that's as good as we can do for this documentary so if you're making this
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documentary it doesn't end like that then you're fucking done yeah you're done on the
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release date of this documentary alex is in court and his lawyer is being a complete asshole to
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sandy hook families yeah congratulations you fuck yeah man boy unbelievable this documentary sucks
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um i mean i guess i could have just summed it up that way but yeah well i mean we would have had
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nothing to talk about so many more things we need to talk about from the trial updates and what have
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you i mean there's been so much action i i i think i think a lot of people who are probably
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interested have been following you on twitter sure you're live tweeting sure but i mean that's fun
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and silly and i have and there's a little more context to like talking about what actually is
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happening totally totally and and i'm gonna be honest with you what i'm what i'm trying to do
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is just infowars infowars right like i'm not that tweet i'm not doing a good job as a journalist in
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any sense of the word well you cited a source when i told you about the st rose of lima that's true
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well i would never not give you credit for telling me so your journalism is all right well hey at
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least i i give credit where credit is due i even credited eugene merman when i stole one of his
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jokes today man of the sea man of the sea so what uh what do you what's your uh summation if you
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have uh if you have a thought um it is it is quite simply that mark is uh no no no no no not of the
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case of the documentary oh if the document sorry oh no i'm sorry i got i got mixed up all of these
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infinitives are so split uh i was like wait your summation of this has to do with mark he was in
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this for two seconds no no my summation of the documentary is um what if uh you made a bad porn
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movie that was just uh two and a half hours of somebody gradually ever so slowly poking at a
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limp penis does that does that work for you it's late does that i feel like no no no no i understand
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it's late i understand it's like i'm just trying to adjust my imagery my imagery is undeniable
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fine yes i think that this movie yeah as a whole it's kind of excusable to a point interesting the
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frame we have different opinions well i want to i just i think the way that you talk about alex's
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uh career in terms of like oklahoma city 9 11 if you want to portray that as kind of mythological
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and this false version of it whatever you're creating this me though it's a movie it's a movie
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yeah i mean it's a puff piece at its core so if you're going to do that you're going to do that
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and whatever i think the framing of sandy hook as just something that people are mad about because
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he supported trump is an unexcusable and editorial choice that these documentary filmmakers are
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making right and i think they should be deeply ashamed of themselves right i think that anybody
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who watches this documentary like glenn greenwald or matt tayebi and they don't come away with the
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same uh kind of conclusion i think that they have lost it yep i don't think it's possible to watch
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this documentary and think hey you know what it's responsible to um choose to make this like
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that's why people don't talk about us dan yeah we're right that's the issue well i mean look
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it's a problem fuck this documentary we gotta we gotta stop doing this we gotta do other shit
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let's be wrong about things differently and loudly um no i don't think that's gonna work for us we're
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gonna hate each other i don't know i i i keep i feel like i'm hitting my head against a wall
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trying to make a summation other than like this sucks this sucks it's just bad i mean it's yeah
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it's bad i think even some of the stuff is confusing some of the musical choices uh not
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the ones that are like really tacky and the crescendos that are like overly dramatic some of
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the other ones are very weird to the point where i had to pause a couple times because i thought
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something like a pop-up started playing music right right right that can't be right yeah so
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i think some of the filmmaking itself is actually a little bit bad yeah and then like here's another
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thing like we haven't touched on is like what about all of alex's friends like what about
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pacen i'm sorry who what about pacenic name one what about leo zagami what about like all of
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these guests that he's had on over the years who are complete lunatics what about big jim tucker
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the nazi adjacent guy who was his bilderberg source right daniel estellan his other bilderberg
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source who credits a spaceman in his book about bilderberg right like what about these people
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like honestly you're missing a big part of his story if you don't recognize that a lot of his
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information comes from fucking wackos right but what you're missing is that this is actually
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okay and i feel like i now understand the documentary i've i've come to the conclusion
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uh-huh that what this documentary is about is that a man at one point in time if he had chosen
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not to do a rush limbaugh impression could have joined the vespers choir and instead he chose one
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path it is it is a it is a classic poetic tale of a of a man who can go down two paths there's a
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beauty to that yeah yeah no no it is it is kind of haunting in its uh in its uh gorgeousness yep
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so we'll be back with another episode i think this is what we do i think the next one probably will
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be about the glenn greenwald thing sure we may be able to also have a court recap in that because
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we can maybe make it a bumble now that we can record i would be shocked at how much we record
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i'm not turning any of this off yeah absolutely i'm not this is what we're doing yeah we're
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leaving the live stream on like the courtroom there's no everybody can just occasionally
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listen to us talk and watch me sleep um so uh we'll be back but until then jordan we have a
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website we do it's knowledgefight.com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter as i go to bed
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jordan and add knowledge underscore fight and it's super late so i'm gonna tell you go to bed jordan
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you too no i have to get this up oh no that's right you're gonna be up for another couple
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hours three days yeah yeah no saturday anyway we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo
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i'm dzx clark and i'm just ranting the whole thing's horseshit it's all just insane andy
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and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan
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i love your work i love you
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