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Well let's hear it for you.

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But it's not worth it.

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The world is Adam, the Rick, and lowering on him.

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You're Colleagues.

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Knowledgefight.

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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, Jordan, it's nice to be back in the saddle.

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Pleasure. My bright spot's a mixed bag. Uh oh. So, here's the situation. You can't eat any more fucking mustard.

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Well. I'm so sick of mustards. Well, I have terrible news.

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In preparation for the year of the mustard. Yes. Um, I ordered a number of mustards. Yes. Yes, you did. And I would like to say thank you. There are some people who have sent in mustards also.

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Um, I don't like mustard. It turns out I like some mustard. Right, right, right. I like a coterie mustard. Sure. A number of yellow mustards. They're a little bit boring and plain, but I still like them. I have liked some Dijon mustards, but some of them that I got way too Dijon.

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Don't like them. Do not like them at all. No. Um, so this calculation was very off. Listen, once again, eyes being bigger than your stomach is I think a feature, not a bug.

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I got very enthusiastic about mustard based on a couple of good ones that I tried. And now the batting average is atrocious and I cannot imagine doing a year of this shit.

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So I'm calling off the year of the mustard. Yeah, I think that's wise. I think that's wise. However. Yes. There is big news. Oh my God. Here's the other bad. We are replacing it.

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The year of the mustard out the window. Right. Gone. But now you know what we're doing? What are we doing? The dreamy, creamy summer.

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Okay. All right. Ice cream. Orange creamsicles. No, ice cream novelties. Ice cream novelties. Yes. Doing it for the summer. Yep. Dreamy, creamy. Dreamy, creamy summer. Getting it done. Yeah. Okay. I think it's going to be show dreamy, creamy. It's going to be the best. It's going to be great. So it's starting on 4-20 still. Okay. Well, yeah, naturally. And I guess we'll go till 9-11. Uh, yeah. 4-20 to 9-11. 4-20 to 9-11. Dreamy, creamy summer. That makes the most sense of any stretch of dates I can imagine.

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Yeah. So we'll have some more details about what this will entail on the next episode. But yeah, it's going to be ice cream novelties. I like it. Yeah. I like it. That will be much easier to complete in a positive way. Yeah. For sure.

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Many apologies to the people who have taken the time to send in mustards. If you'd like to send me a message, I will certainly repay you. We will refund your mustard. Or making something. I don't know. We'll do something for you because it's very generous.

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If you feel short-changed by the year of the mustard, please. That is not our intention at all. I understand there's some enthusiasm. I just hope we can transition that into enthusiasm about the dreamy, creamy summer.

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Yeah, I think ultimately, you know, weight gain might be an issue for the dreamy, creamy summer. I'm going to have to get on the cardio a little bit. I think I'm going to have to try to make sure I don't go too far.

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But then again, I honestly, I don't think I eat all that healthy to begin with. No, that is true. This may not be that big of a difference for me. Fine, fine. But here's what we do. We do this like the McDonald's every day for 30 days thing. You're going to need to go to a dentist regularly.

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Like once a week checkups. How much ice cream have you eaten this week between six and ten drinks per night? You know, like that guy. I'm going to go to a chiropractor who pretends to be a dentist. Right. That's a chiropractor who pretends to be a doctor. Right.

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And a dentist who does acupuncture. Sure. Yeah. And a chiropractor who moonlights at McDonald's. I think it's a good way to go. So we've got a crack team.

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So this is, yeah, that's my bright spot. It's a dreamy, creamy summer coming to you now. Wonderful. What about you? My bright spot is my little sister. She is having her first child and she just did the gender reveal thing yesterday. Did it start a fire?

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It did not. They went straight with cupcakes with the color of icing inside them or something. Sure. As opposed to my idea, which was, you know, M80s inside of a cupcake. Right. A flammable cupcake. End of pitch. Yeah.

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But yeah, so. You don't think that's, I mean, I don't want to make you talk bad about your sister, but you don't think that's a little tacky? What? I think safety first. Sure. No, I mean just the institution of gender reveal parties.

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Yes, I despise them. Okay. I mean, I couldn't go because I was too busy slaving away in the podcast factory, you know. Were you? Eh. Oh, this was yesterday? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, spoiler alert. We recorded something yesterday. Yeah.

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But anyways, it's a boy. Congratulations. You're going to be an uncle. Again, yeah. You're already an uncle. Yeah, I'll be an uncle twice over next year already. Twice uncle. Two uncle additions to the next year. How do you like it?

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Uh, it's better than being a parent. I would imagine. Yep. As somebody who is an uncle and not a parent, I can only speak from my experience that it seems like it's better than having a kid. Way better. Less work. Yeah. Less responsibilities. I like them. They're cute. I see them once every six to 12 months. Hurrah. Yeah.

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So Jordan, today we are getting back into some present day-ish Alex Jones. All right. You've been gone for a week. Uh, we kept the podcast factory running in your absence. Yes. Yes, indeed. Uh, thank you to Amanda for coming in and having a chat. I enjoyed that interview. I'm sorry to miss it.

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Um, so we have to check in on what happened while you were gone. And today we're going to be going over April 13th, 2022. That's Wednesday to you. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We already have dreamy creamy. You get to keep that one. I don't know. Taking this one back. April 13th, 2022. That's Wednesday to you. They do the finger gun. Well, the finger gun, of course you get to keep always. Well, maybe it'll, maybe it'll stick. We'll see. I don't think so.

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Um, this is a fun, it's not fun, but it's an episode and we'll get into it. But first Jordan, let's say hello to some new folks. So first sneaky, sneaky, little breaky. Tomorrow's turtle soups today. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Next that horse you rode in on. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Standing up for that horse has been maligned by Alex next, Patrick. I'm not saying the drowned God is Cthulhu, but the drowned God is Cthulhu Ferguson. Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much, you are now Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk!

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Thank you very much!

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Thank you!

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Next, Skald, thank you so much, you are now Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thank you very much!

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Thank you!

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Next, Chad and Matt at Evergreen, thank you so much, you are now Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thank you very much!

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Thank you!

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And we've got a couple of technocrats here to say hello to, so first, James Patterson,

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yes, like the author, thank you so much, you are now Policy Wonk.

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And this person requested to be on the 666th episode and I've unfortunately missed their

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message so I'm a demon it's the 666 episode all over again thank you Paul in

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Kentucky not that asshole Rand you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk I

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have risen above my enemies I might quit tomorrow actually I'm just gonna take a

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little break you know a little breaky for me and then we're going to come back

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and I'm gonna start the show over fuck you fuck you I got plenty of words for

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you but at the end of the day fuck you and your New World Order and fuck the

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horse you rode in on and all your shit maybe today should be my last broadcast

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maybe I'll just be gone a month maybe five years maybe I'll walk out of here

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tomorrow and you never see me again that's really what I want to do I never

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want to come back here again I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday

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that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air I'll be better

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tomorrow he's not he's not much better hmm I don't think that this was as

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toxic an episode as I've heard okay maybe the highest praise I can really

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muster for Alex at this point yeah I mean yeah I don't think I wanted to

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rage-quit at any point okay I was bored at many points sure but I mean you you

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know you can't shoot for something outside of what's possible so I think in

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Alex's position achievable goals such as not forcing you to rage-quit is this

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something to be celebrated mm-hmm right that might be in the like top 2% 98%

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tile or whatever of the show here's not a context drop here from today's show we

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ain't buying your chili okay all right calm down man all right

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chili here sir this is literally a one days we have chili on you prefer a

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Baconator I get it so we started off the episode and Alex is covering the subway

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shooting in New York that is kind of big news right here and Alex has a take he's

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got a take let me just give you a quick rundown of the incredible stories we

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have the corporate press in overdrive scrambling hysterically trying to hide

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the fact that the New York City subway shooter was targeting white people

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because he believed they needed to die and he also wanted to kill black people

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that married outside of the African bloodline obviously completely mentally

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ill out of his mind from his postings I've watched several videos this morning

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so Alex isn't totally off base here but there's a couple of important

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distinctions that need to be made between what Alex is saying and what

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information is known it is true that the alleged subway shooter Frank James had a

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history of posting disturbing often hateful and violent videos on YouTube he

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had a serious problem with New York's public health system particularly the

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mental health system having claimed that he was mistreated at a city facility he

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also did have some distaste for white people but Alex is conveniently leaving

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out the racist shit he posted about many other groups including black people that

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being said it's pretty clear from his videos that he was strongly opposed to

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white people he was worried about a coming race war and was mentally unwell

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and he was mad at Kentucky Brown Jackson because she's married to a white man

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yeah yeah that's what Alex is referring to there yeah however there are the

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distinctions that are important this is a very possible motivation for his

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shooting and it may well turn out that that's the case but Alex doesn't know

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that when he's reporting this this is an assumption that Alex is making and

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whether he was motivated by a racial hatred doesn't mean that he was trying

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to kill white people in the subway right all right there there is a distinction

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there that is there's a meaning to it although it's maybe slightly academic

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right no I understand I understand what you're saying the second point is

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probably more important and that's how you can see that when there's a black

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shooter who appears to be motivated by a hateful ideology they're making

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decisions and they are actual criminals compare this to the way that Alex covers

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countless white mass shooters like Dylan roof or James Holmes and you see a clear

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distinction when the shooter is white there's a grand conspiracy about how he

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was brainwashed and basically just a blunt instrument being used by the

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globalists well if the shooter is not white it may be some kind of a

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conspiracy still they may be not well but they have control over their actions

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yeah there's a reason that they're doing what they're doing yes that motivates

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their actions as opposed to like they were jolly and West brainwashed him at

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an Air Force whatever just you know saying out loud you can judge this

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person as bad you cannot judge the white person as bad because their actions were

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outside of their control well you can judge them as bad asterisk yeah yeah

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yeah exactly the third point I would bring up is that Alex is just making up

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an idea that the media is covering up Frank James previous social media

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releases on this very day of this episode April 13th there is an article

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in the New York Times titled quote sub suspect drifted from city to city as his

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videos hinted at violence this Times article offers a more nuanced

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perspective on James videos and how he wasn't just someone who hated white

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people that variable is the only thing that's important to Alex so that's how

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infowars reports it compared to this from the Times quote he seems to have

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been more focused on his YouTube account where the videos he posted frequently

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devolved into outbursts of homophobia misogyny and offensive comments about

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black people Hispanic people and white people mr. James who is black directed

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much of his hatred towards black people who he often blamed for the way they

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were treated in the United States sure the article goes on to say quote he

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expressed admiration for black trailblazers like Martin Luther King

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jr. and President Barack Obama but unleashed vitriol on other black people

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including Daunte Wright who was killed by a police officer in Minnesota last

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year and other young black men shot by the police he blamed them for their own

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deaths saying you play stupid games you win a stupid prize and adding that they

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deserve to be shot yeah that's so different from what Clarence Thomas

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believes or Alex yeah there's a big article about the videos and his social

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media posts and Rolling Stone and it's a story that was covered in countless

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other outlets the point here is that there absolutely was no desperate

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cover-up of this subject matter and it's important to understand what Alex means

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when he says that when Alex alleges a cover-up what he's saying is that other

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outlets don't have the same angle on the story that he does and anyone whose

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narrative is different than Alex is covering something up so when Alex says

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that there was a shooting that was entirely and centrally around a hatred

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of white people if you're a listener and you encounter another outlet discussing

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the broader hatred and anger James was trafficking in you'll be far more likely

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to see that as the media trying to blur the real truth of the story which Alex

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is reporting accurately yeah look they're trying to both sides it they're

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trying to make it look like oh this isn't just about how much he hates white

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people and by extension because as obviously we know you can paint an

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entire group by the actions of one individual especially one who is

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incredibly mentally unwell this is just another critical aspect of Alex's early

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game when their story is breaking and there aren't a lot of concrete details

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known about the situation he'll pretty much always accuse an unspecific group

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like the MSM the media of engaging in a cover-up it never actually has to be

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true because the effect he's looking for is to make the audience distrustful of

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any story that doesn't match his narrative and warning of some imaginary

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cover-up does that perfectly well it doesn't have to have any bearing on

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reality also there's just a trope among racists that black crime is being

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covered up while white crime is over reported and Alex is definitely playing

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that game here too totally that's that's some of the the introductory pieces that

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is it is a little bit wild to hear Alex Alex's take on that when there is I

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mean you can pull if you pulled transcripts of Alex's videos and that

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guy's videos there are plenty of situations where you wouldn't be able to

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tell who said what yeah I imagine maybe there's some optics differences in terms

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of the way things are being expressed but yeah I would I would imagine there's

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a lot of similar ideas like James in his videos was you know concerned about a

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coming race war and Alex and his guests talk about that all the goddamn all the

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goddamn time so hmm what are you gonna do yeah so I think that Alex thinks that

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he's taking a little bit of a moral high ground here sure by being like we don't

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blame all black people for this shooter who was black right okay cool we don't

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blame black people for what he did we don't blame someone for the color of

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their skin for what somebody else the same skin has done but the media does

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when it's Dylann Roof also completely mentally ill also mumbling incoherently

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and saying similar things but from a white perspective when he went into an

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innocent black church and killed nine people at point-blank range injured

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others every white person in America was guilty and every gun owner was guilty

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the corporate media told us for months and beat us over the head with it we

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don't blame white people for what that deranged mentally ill person did the

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answer is arming churchgoers having armed deacons and that's been stopping

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these shooters dead in their tracks it's really funny for Alex to pretend that he

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had an evolved response to the Dylann Roof shooting his immediate response was

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that if roof wanted to actually kill black people he should have become an

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abortion doctor which weirdly he isn't saying about Frank James I'm very

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strange yeah why wouldn't he say if you want us to kill white people he should

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have become an abortion doctor don't white people get abortion no I guess it

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doesn't seem that Alex would really think of it that way huh yeah he's a

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little glib when the victims are racially targeted because they're black

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yeah in force own reporting from 2015 actually undercuts Alex's entire point

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here there was no mass blaming of white people for roofs actions there was a

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dream a deep trauma that had been caused by a person who acted specifically out

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of racist hate and a conversation was needed about how that hate is more

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prevalent than most people want to admit and this is where it leads a lot of the

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time when I say that in fours own reporting contradicts Alex what I mean

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is that just after the shooting Alex sent Jakari Jackson down to Charleston

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expecting to find chaos and people fighting Alex was spouting his normal

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race war fears but when Jakari got there he found a community coming together to

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heal people of all ages races and backgrounds were embracing and

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supporting each other here is a clip from his reporting walked out now it's

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about 1140 they also had loudspeakers for the people who couldn't get inside

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they were out here listening and it whether you were inside or outside it

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was pretty hot I don't know if the AC was broken or if they didn't have one

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but a lot of people had fans and water but it's still good you know we were in

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there sweating but everybody was enjoying the service it was of I guess a

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brief message at the creature abroad but it was a lot of praise and worship you

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know it's really good vibe you know I keep saying about this people of all you

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know races colors ages all that you would not be surprised to learn that

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Jakari didn't do too much more reporting from Charleston because a community

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coming together to reject racism and show that they're stronger than the

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hate that motivated Dylann Roof that's not a story that's very interesting for

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infowars no not profitable no we're gonna leave that one alone also fuck the

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idea of having armed pastors when that's something you're sincerely suggesting

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you need to stop a minute and consider that the problem what may be way more

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serious than your acting like it is it's bad enough that rhetoric around arming

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teachers has become so normalized with the idea that religious leaders should

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be armed is so painfully depressing that it seems to be missing the mark entirely

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it just feels like Alex wants to live in a world that's basically just that LP

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video for deep space 9-millimeter where everybody's just casually pointing guns

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at each other everybody point a gun at everybody else all the time it'll keep

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the peace I mean it'll do something huh the most high-profile case I think Alex

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could be referring to here is the Sutherland Springs church shooting back

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in 2017 but that wasn't stopped by an armed deacon or somebody in the

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congregation being armed Steven Williford was the guy who shot the

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shooter there and he was at home when the shooting started and he only

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responded after his daughter told him that she'd heard gunshots and he came to

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the church it wasn't an armed preacher right in 2021 an armed man took over a

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church pulpit in Nashville and the pastor in that case was able to disarm

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him but he didn't use a gun hmm pastor just tackled him from behind before he

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was able to shoot anyone in that case I would suspect that if the gunman had

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been confronted by someone with another gun you would end up putting a ton of

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churchgoers in a much more dangerous position where there could end up being

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exchange of fire people could be shot accidentally you as the preacher might

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accidentally shoot one of your congregation it's nonsense it's not a

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it's not a solution to the problem but it's Alex's solution there it would be

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it would be very hard for a a pastor or a priest of the like who believes what

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they believe sincerely to want to kill somebody as opposed to lay down their

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own life right I mean like you would write a pastor would rather be killed to

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save the murderers life than otherwise that may be an idealized situation but

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yeah I know you were saying something to that I read some story too like I was

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looking for incidences of this happening and there was a case of a pastor I can't

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remember where but he gave a sermon and then he went to a Walmart and there was

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a shooter and he ended up having a gun and shooting the shooter so it was a

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pastor shooting a guy with a gun right it wasn't at the church so I didn't

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think it was super relevant to this right but his his take on it was that it

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was a deeply traumatic experience and yeah doing it yeah absolutely I can't

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imagine how much worse it would be if you're in your church like how

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traumatizing it would be I mean granted having a shooting at a church just in

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general would be traumatized I think shooting is bad I mean how is it we get

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to this level America's so fucked up we get to this level of like three we need

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to granularly argue about what types of shootings are a problem we're three

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stages past like where rational conversation absolutely yeah all right

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and that's another that's what is important about what Alex is doing

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towards this subway shooters he does not give a shit about the victims or about

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solutions or about trying to avoid it this is entirely in service of saying

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this is happening so that's why it's okay for Dylann Roof or why you we

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shouldn't feel bad about Dylann Roof like this is all in service of making it

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okay for white people to do or at least that's why Alex is trying to make this

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entire thing about Dylann Roof here it is inside Frank James chilling bullets

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and body bags post before subway shooting this person of interest says

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we're in World War three I came face-to-face with the mumbling Brooklyn

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subway shooter New York Post has a witness talking about it didn't even

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know really where he was or what he was doing full-on lunatic land just like

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Dylann Roof didn't know who he was it was gibbering to police but that was in

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the back of the paper with him no it was all premeditated and it was all white

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people's fault that's the reason this happened no it is not my fault when

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somebody that looks like me does something wrong it's my fault when I do

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something wrong but see authoritarians always blame whole groups that's what

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the left does they're sick and they're evil Alex is mad yes that is I think

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obviously the conclusion that I came to from the subway tragedy is that the left

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is evil all right and don't blame me for Dylann Roof yeah okay was my first

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thought I guy action to this specifics and you might be bringing a lot of

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baggage to this conversation yeah so the New York Post story that Alex is

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citing doesn't say that the shooter didn't know where he was the witness

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just said quote I looked at him and I thought to myself he was talking to

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himself for like a while so I looked at him and I was like this guy must be on

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drugs that's what he checks the what Alex is extrapolating out didn't know

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where he was right whatever right also Dylann Roof didn't say a bunch of

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gibberish during his killing spree he showed up to a Bible study and was

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welcomed in by the churchgoers he sat there with him for almost an hour before

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gunning down nine people in cold blood while they prayed I know that Alex is

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trying to grasp at straws to make this story somehow about himself but this is

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some shameful shit you can tell though he's mad and I think I know why in the

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aftermath of the Charleston shooting people didn't blame all white people in

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the same way that in the aftermath of the subway shooting people aren't

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blaming all black people however Alex is a flagrant racist so he experienced the

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conversations after Charleston as an attack on white people and himself in

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particular he only felt that way because that's how he experiences reality and

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then he went out looking for tweets and blog posts that would back up his

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persecution fantasies you know some stray tweet of someone blaming white

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people or something yeah in this current situation things are a little bit

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different because Alex isn't experiencing the coverage of the

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shooting as an attack on himself in his own identity he's not looking for a

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defense of that narrative in the same way as was the case with the Charleston

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shooting people aren't using the shooting to condemn an entire race so

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this becomes a situation where there's a media cover-up and what's the media

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allegedly covering up Alex's narrative that this shooting was an attack on

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white all white people and thus we've come full circle and every event in the

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news is understood only through the filter of how it's proof of how Alex's

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particular identity is under attack specifically the obsession with talking

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about this only through the prism of Dylann Roof that shooting is pretty

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telling I think I I would say that it's a tell I mean well it does seem like you

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can very quickly work backwards from that like let's go to let's say the

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human race one by one and ask them just pure what is your first word

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association game only Alex is going to come up with Dylann Roof sure and you

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know what I kept thinking about too when I was listening to this like Alex is

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saying like in 2015 or yeah 2015 whenever that the Charleston shooting

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happened everyone blamed all white people I just keep thinking of them

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multiple times in these depositions that people like Alex and Owen Troyer have

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been asked directly what are your examples of calling for gun control

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after mass shootings yeah and they can come up with nothing yeah I would

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guarantee that Alex could not come up with anything other than a general

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feeling that he had that people were blaming all white people and that comes

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down to his own identity fears and victimhood and persecution obsession

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yeah that's what he's talking about yeah I mean ultimately it could be seen to to

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to me that he's he believes that white people are at fault for things have

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something coming to them and is reacting so negatively because he wants to try

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and avoid that outcome you you you can psychoanalyze him all you want I think

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you've breached the Goldwater rule so I'll pull you back a little alright

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fine so Alex spends a lot of time on this episode complaining about CNN Plus

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sure apparently a new streaming service CNN Plus a thing that roughly 10,000

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people have subscribed to Alex brings up that number a bunch right yeah I mean

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it's if you're gonna dance on a streaming service I think CNN Plus is a

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is a good kweebie way to go yeah it's very much like they spent so much money

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on it no one's watching it's a little navel-gazey sure a little bit sure but

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he spends so much fucking time on this we operate on 25 million dollars a year

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we have to sell 60 million dollars worth of product on average to be able to then

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get money to fund ourselves to break even we got to sell 60 million dollars

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worth of product and some years we have it but I did things like take some of

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the money we raised in the years and invest it in real estate to be able to

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then sell that real estate when I knew I'd need it down the road to dump it

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back in the operation and I've already done that so I'm down to my last chips

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here but but but not because we're not popular imagine this we're operating on

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something 27 million a year we're operating on 27 million dollars a year

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with our own servers own satellites own crew own legal with all the attacks our

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own infrastructure and CNN Plus launched with 400 million dollars and has less

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than 10,000 viewers a week you could start a cooking show yourself on YouTube

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and if it's half decent within a week you'll have 10,000 views guarantee well

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that's not true I mean a dead cat could get more viewers with a webcam on it in

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the middle of street then then CNN can't everyone can't stand CNN what did old Joe

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Rogan say about it okay look this is important stuff obviously covering CNN

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Plus not being very popular I don't know who's watching because Alex watching

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live streams of dead cats I I mean well at least 10 to 12,000 people are I

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assume yeah I think he might have a skewed version of how difficult it is to

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crack into the attention oh yeah no no it's real easy if you have a cooking

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show halfway decent yeah and within a week tens of thousands of people will

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find you there's a dearth of halfway decent cookies on YouTube I think he

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doesn't realize how ignorable he would be if he wasn't this deep in his career

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yeah if he hadn't started prior to YouTube totally hadn't started like way

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back if he wasn't grandfathered in no one would give a shit about his dumb

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show nope this is like it's such a stupid stupid source of information and

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honestly I think in the absence of Alex someone else might be as good of a

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showman as him but absolutely maybe absolutely I don't know I mean I'm not

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sure how attractive his program could be if it wasn't him like try yeah try and

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imagine this appearing out of nowhere right no one gives a shit right there's

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crazier stuff there's more interesting stuff yeah yeah I mean I think it's a

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little bit like a little bit like the comedy the pre-internet you know of like

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there are so many gatekeepers before the internet that there is no way to break

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in unless you started unless you knew people and that kind of kept things much

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more homogenized and it kept people from experimenting in a lot of really

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interesting ways and then all of a sudden the internet comes along and

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though you could be a mediocre white dude comic and have a very good career

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and then the internet hit and it's like oh there's a lot of mediocre white dude

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comics around maybe there's maybe I should work hard but yeah at the same

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time everybody can put out a ton of stuff totally and so you're it's even

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you know it's probably as hard or harder with the amount of stuff that people can

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put out to get any kind of traction or attention absolutely as good of a comic

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as you are there's a hundred thousand of you it just as good if not better yeah

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yeah and even if you're doing something wildly creative guess what there's a lot

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of other people who are doing wildly creative things too and it could just

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come down to like oh well people didn't see you at the right time you know like

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my point is that Alex sucks Alex sucks and his show has no value if it wasn't

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him yeah but you know who does have some value who Elon Musk nope disagree

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master Elon Musk battling back about the inside baseball on that a while back but

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I've been asked not to say anything about it that's why I told you about a

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year ago I said Musk claims he's gonna take on the New World Order I don't know

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that's true I've been on the fence about the guy but now he's starting to prove

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himself and he lives right here in Austin I'll just leave it at that and I

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run with people that run with him on a weekly basis and that's just what I've

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been told so you're actually seeing what I was told was gonna happen yeah Elon

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Musk pretending he's gonna buy Twitter is battling the New World Order yeah

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yeah doesn't get more tip of the spear than pretending to buy Twitter yeah and

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possibly getting investigated by the SEC again for crimes that we all know he

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commits that they just doesn't get punished for because consequences are

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anathema to the wealthy quite a battle he's gonna save us yeah so Alex is known

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as being very credible and very he's taken very seriously by what he would

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describe as intellectual circles sure Infowars is doing the most important

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work it's ever done and I'm always up here having to scrabble to get money

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just to stay on the air when we're having our most important work ever and

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and become more authoritative and more influential in intellectual circles

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around the world your investment Infowars is always paying off in freedom

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and liberty and awakening and it's paying off better day by day it's like a

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pregnancy that's eight and a half months in you're about to get the baby it's

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about to be healthy all the works coming in now we're in the birth pains but I

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can tell you I have almost spent half the reserve money I have that was just

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like four million dollars for a company this important that was nothing I had

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four million dollars five months ago and I got two point three million right now

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so I guess half almost and those are my bridges and we need everybody we've got

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working here and I'm not bitching or complaining but why should we have

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layoffs when everything we said is coming true and we're winning I've got

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all the Democrat lawsuits coming to a head with trials this summer I got to

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pay for all that I got judges doing all these fake sanctions on me massively the

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top law firms say they've never seen that and they break the law but I don't

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pay them they'll have me arrested I mean we're under massive attack because we've

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entered the thick of the battle the key gladiatorial event that's going to

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decide so much so now your whole investment could really be damaged in

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Liberty if you let them take down this standard of freedom I need everybody

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seriously to get off the fence and go to info war store calm that is about the

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most concretely I've heard him express I need you to pay my legal fees yeah yep

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that is about as blunt as it's been they like look I'm gonna get hit with some

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really big fines coming up soon yeah I need you help this is gonna be a bad

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summer guys do you want me to be around you're gonna have to pay for it Alex is

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gonna have a bad summer I'm gonna have a dreamy creamy one yeah that's how it's

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gonna go we're gonna sit here and eat ice cream as Alex pays out the butt yep

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that's the plan yep whatever he gets fined that's how

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many ice cream we might have to divide well you know type 2 diabetes isn't the

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isn't that isn't a death sentence Dan so here Alex gets back to some some

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conversations about the New York subway shooting and he really really gets

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pretty fucked up and racist here Dylan roof Charleston 2015 in June he goes

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into an innocent black church of people he never met and didn't know done

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nothing to him and he shot more than 15 people killing nine and they reported

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well the police said that he was gibbering incoherently and appeared to

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be schizophrenic that matter they said all white people were to blame and that

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all gun owners were to blame no I'm not to blame and white people are not to

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blame this lunatic is to blame just like the New York subway shooter Frank James

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who shot more than 16 people many in critical condition is a black

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nationalist like Waukesha parade killer recently released video manifesto

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posted video of the new Supreme Court justice saying he doesn't like her

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because she's married to a white person another gibbering crazy lunatic do we

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blame black people no we don't blame black people but who do we blame we

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blame the corporate media and we blame the establishment stirring up all this

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hate and we blame them covering up the fact that black on white crime is at

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least ten times white on black crime because the media promotes that white

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people are bad and deserve to be mugged and attacked and many black leaders even

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where I live in Texas say don't rob in your neighborhood go rob white people

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how about you don't rob or kill anybody how about that whoa seems like that

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clip took an intensely racist turn at the end yeah you kind of got the feeling

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that Alex was doing everything in his power to stop himself from saying how

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about you don't rob anyone black people yeah you know I here's what I would say

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I would say that all black people have standing to sue Alex for defamation

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there because we know that that is not true mm-hmm there's no such thing as

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black people committing ten times more crime on white people that's not a thing

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right we'll discuss this here yeah but the first problem is that Dylan roof

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didn't injure more than 15 people no he killed nine and injured one additional

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person a bigger issue though Alex has these crime statistics entirely wrong

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like you're referencing and it's literally just repeating inaccurate

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racist propaganda this conclusion that black on white crime is ten times higher

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than white on black crime is reachable when you don't factor in population

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ratios and other factors into your analysis and this is a standard trick

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that white nationalists and white supremacist groups have used for decades

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to foment fear of black people as dangerous criminals we've talked about

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this racist myth a bit in the past and how telling it is that Alex thinks it's

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reality so I'm not gonna dive into that fully again but this actually leads me

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to an important point Alex is trying to use some kind of illusion that all white

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people were blamed for the Charleston shooting in order to frame his coverage

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of the New York subway shooting instead of blaming all black people Alex has

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decided what he's gonna do is blame the media for covering up that black on

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white crime is ten times higher than white on black crime in order to make

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black people feel like they should attack white people that's what he wants

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the media to be apparently doing this is literally what Dylan roof wrote in his

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manifesto about why he decided to carry out the Charleston shooting this is from

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his manifesto that was published on his website the last Rhodesian quote the

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event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case I kept hearing and

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seeing his name and eventually I decided to look him up I read the Wikipedia

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article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was it was

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obviously Zimmerman was in the right but more importantly this prompted me to type

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in the words black-on-white crime into Google and I have never been the same

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since that day the first website I came to was the Council of Conservative

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Citizens there were pages upon pages of these brutal black-on-white murders I

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was in disbelief at this moment I realized that something was very wrong

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how could the news be blowing up this Trayvon Martin case well hundreds of

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black-on-white murders got ignored Alex is using the image of Dylan roof to

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somehow justify his racist response to the New York subway shooting but the

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truth is that Alex is Dylan roof Alex is disseminating the exact same false

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racist propaganda that inspired Dylan roof to commit the mass murder of nine

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people praying in a church specifically because they were black Alex is

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spreading the same information to his audience potentially sending other

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impressionable listeners down a path that may not lead to murder but

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definitely leads to overt racism and I find it difficult to believe that he

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doesn't know what he's doing he has had plenty of time to figure out that there's

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is a incorrect racist myth and he doesn't care or he knows that it is and

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he still perpetuates it so fuck him yeah yeah that's that's great that is great I

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mean Wow in response to this mass shooting that I think was racially

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motivated let me quote the the Dylan roof yeah let me essentially paraphrase

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his manifesto let's not do that there's there's zero times when it's a good idea

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to paraphrase quite a bit I mean you see when we did that episode on Anders

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Breivik you see how similar a lot of Alex's rhetoric is to the things that

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were inspiring to him yet his right in his manifesto and this is true of other

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people who have been inspired by the great replacement conspiracy theories

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that certainly made a appearance in a number of manifestos right and Alex's

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coverage is identical well because the reality of this but I mean it's the

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point you know you can't say stochastic terrorism enough whenever the point is

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to create an environment or a reality wherein it is justifiable to commit

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those acts of mass atrocities so regardless of whether or not Alex quote

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unquote wants them to happen by disseminating this bullshit you are

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trying to make them happen well and you're increasing the likelihood that

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people will find places that have even more extreme versions of these racist

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talking points and myths yep online if they if they search these things out and

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they'll become deeper radicalized mm-hmm it's not it's it's not a path that

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someone responsible would absolutely go down well to put it simply his response

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to a mass shooting of which there are just an unconscionable number is to say

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things that will inspire another mass shooting or at least definitely have yeah

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yeah and I I mean look I think obviously this is maybe beside the point maybe a

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trivial issue this is the kind of thing that would get somebody fired at a

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regular job yes absolutely just the like repeated insistence of these black and

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white absolutely that would get you fucking fired so fast 100% and he

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doesn't have to worry about that no boss nope anyway Alex's got some

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information wrong about the Frank James situation kill all whitey suspect in

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Brooklyn subway shooting spouted hateful black Nationals rhetoric praised

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beautiful 9-eleven turns out he was on the FBI terror list and the agents had

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tried to investigate him but the investigation was killed there was no

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investigation that was killed Alex is making that up there were some

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inaccurate reports that Frank James was formerly on the FBI watch list but it

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turns out it was a different person named Frank James this is a mistake

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someone could make but what Alex is doing isn't the same thing he's taking

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this inaccurate reporting then building a conspiracy on top of it not only was

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he formerly on this watch list but someone in the FBI killed an

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investigation into him now why would they do that why would they do that

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nothing Alex says means anything you know he takes mistakes or things he

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makes up and then mix up stuff on top of them it's all just bullshit yep yep you

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can you could make a mistake if you're like oh I found on this former watch

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list Frank a Frank James could this be the same person mm-hmm everybody could

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but you know why not why not say that now obviously there's a million Frank

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James's out there yeah but you know I think you if you then add like and

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because I saw this possible name that matches on this thing clearly the

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president assassinated his dad right agents tried to investigate him and then

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the investigation was killed is pulled entirely from Alex's imagination mm-hmm

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and just total bullshit so another thing that Alex is writing elaborate fantasies

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about is the case of the Whitmer kidnappers right but see the wheels are

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coming off the Whitmer fraud millions and millions spent going out and

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canvassing Michigan to find mainly young white men who came from fatherless homes

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who were looking for male role models and who were upset about the decline of

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America and wanted to train with firearms to be basically in the military

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without joining and they typecast they spent years setting them up they

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activated them and ordered them the FBI was recorded this themselves it got into

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evidence ordered them to attack Whitmer's house ordered them to kidnapper

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ordered them to cut her head off and they're on tape no no I don't want to

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but the FBI agents and informants muscle them and command them and order them to

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at least show up and run around at night in the bushes by her house so they could

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then say she was a victim when people wanted to impeach her during the

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lockdowns and the same FBI team that did that then ran January 6 is a fun scene

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from a movie or something but this isn't accurate yeah two of the four defendants

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in the case were acquitted and the jury was unable to reach a verdict for the

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other two if they had audio even close to what Alex is describing this never

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would have even gone to trial also Alex is conveniently ignoring the fact that

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two conspirators pled guilty already sure and there are eight other people

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facing state charges that are yet to go to court this is not the the situation

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is not what Alex is describing although there are problems and I think the issue

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generally speaking is that the FBI rushed this case they jumped too early

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for the arrest as the plotting that was going on wasn't solid enough for them to

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likely get charges to stick as it stands now it's too easy for the defense

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attorneys to portray what was going on is just some dudes talking shit and it

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also doesn't help that there were multiple moles in the group since that

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does lend itself to the impression that the FBI was running the whole thing but

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that's not borne out by the information yeah that that is available also but

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it's just fun this this like it's in the evidence that you go in there you cut

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her head yeah yeah you know it's that's the FBI's own fault though if they

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hadn't if they hadn't built a reputation for doing that adjacent behavior in the

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past I don't whether or not it's an all the time thing or anything like that but

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you do it one time mm-hmm it's there I don't I don't have like necessarily a

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problem with some skepticism surrounding this and I also don't think there's like

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I had an absence of criticism right that that is merited but totally I don't think

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that the claims that Alex is making are are defensible no no no no agreed I play

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that audio Alex it came out in evidence it's public yeah it's the Watergate to

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the Whitmer gate tapes sure yeah that's what we'll do go run around in the

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bushes you ever see hotshots part do so look the same people who did that did

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January 6th obviously and Alex has decided he's gonna have a little wait so

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Alex is very conveniently forgetting all of his buddies have been yep yeah okay

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yeah no that's faded into the background he's so he's not so is he saying then

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that Stuart Rhodes works for the FBI it's an interesting syllogism I don't

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know I may I mean maybe that's a conclusion I think maybe but anyway

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Alex is gonna have a parlay with the FBI the FBI comes to talk to you about

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January 6th as being set up right now for me to do I'm doing a proffer I'm

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gonna I'm gonna talk to him that doesn't wrong the whole big team wants to come

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in and talk to me I'm like okay and I'm gonna sit there and ask him hey how

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about I interview you and ask you guys a little bit of questions here I mean

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some main suspects are your bosses it's your ass sitting in that seat it's

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upside-down world here Jack yeah come on that's Biden's word hey hey FBI how

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about we turn these tables around now you're under investigation that's gonna

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work well yeah that happens every time I'm gonna guess Alex is gonna be more

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like yes sir I don't know anything okay you say to the FBI all right I've turned

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the tables I'm investigating you I think they would laugh how does that yeah what

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is are they gonna be like what nobody's ever done this before do we just run

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away oh my god you're so manly this is terrifying you're clearly not scared of

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me sir your penis is too big yeah nonsense so Alex's whole thing is like

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they want violence going into the midterm these Democrats cuz globalists

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are just Democrats now yeah so they want violence going into the midterms that's

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the only way they're gonna win and so this shooting on the subway staged but

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also maybe not staged once but it baby it's day okay so maybe it's not could

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not be should they want violence going into this midterm here's a headline

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Democrat death march to November Town Hall and it just says every poll shows

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the biggest landslide in US history well Trump won the huge landslide and he won

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the second time in the landslide they stole it and they're planning false

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flags to blame the American people and stir up a race war as I've pointed out

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you will see mass shootings in subways and in churches and in colleges and in

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both schools and at shopping malls I've been saying it every day for the last

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few months that all they got to do is know about schizophrenics that are out

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there and give them weapons and encourage them and then turn the cameras

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off as they did in New York yet again and I'm not saying it's staged but we

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know the FBI was told knew about him and the higher-ups didn't let him stop him

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so maybe it is staged maybe okay maybe it is all set up in a false flag but

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also maybe it's not okay so it wasn't say what well the FBI did know about it

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and they did have control which isn't true okay but they but it could have

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been it could have been true and if it is then it's probably stage yes but it's

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not true no but it could be but it might not be well you don't know who knows

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this is worthwhile yes yeah good good work yeah also that Democrat death march

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to November is a op-ed in town hall by Kurt Schlichter okay I don't care yeah

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it's not an analysis of all these deep polls no it's a guy who worked for

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Breitbart Oh Andrew Andrew Breitbart not just Breitbart it does seem like he

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would be let's say unbiased certainly yeah so yeah I think this is this is

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just dumb you know it's here's what's crazy to me this is a prime strategic

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opportunity to do the bare minimum of saying you're not racist you know you

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could but if he was just like this is exactly like Dylann Roof like I mean

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just like that if he just equivocated them entirely I actually like I'm above

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this being about black people it would be one it's just he's so racist well

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even do us his past career would be a problem for that right and then

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secondarily I don't think that they're the same no they're absolutely not and

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I think it would maybe be racist to say that they're the same absolutely would

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be racist to say the same I know but in Alex's world mm-hmm that would be that

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would be like see it's not about race this honestly think that what you're

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describing is what he's trying to do or what he thinks he's doing you know what

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you might be right oh my god you might be right yeah this is the worst day of

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my life I'm sorry yeah well I'd like to make your day better by having Alex tell

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you about a study that he didn't read okay but I want to get to this right now

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study finds Florida handled COVID lockdowns better than New York and

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California and of course the numbers are all there I don't just believe this

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study they had one of the lowest death rates in the company country yeah so the

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way Alex is talking with the study it's abundantly clear that he hasn't read the

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article under this headline he has no idea what the study is the headline

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itself is from the New York Post and it reads New York California failed at

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handling COVID but Florida was among best study when you read the headline

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like that it's probably a good idea to ask yourself two questions the first is

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how does this study define success in dealing with COVID and the second is who

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did this study well the thing about it was and you wouldn't have seen this

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coming but the measurement was how successful you were at getting around

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COVID restrictions so Florida was the best at putting hurdle jumping hurdles

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putting masks just a little bit below your nose you know what I'm saying that

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would be an interesting study it's not quite what this is hmm but I think in

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this case answering the second question who did the study and helps you get

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halfway to answering the first question this was a study done by the committee

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to unleash prosperity which is a nonprofit group dedicated to pushing

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policies that will ramp up economic growth if you are non supervillain you

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know there's only there's really just one simple rule don't put unleash in

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your name if you're a supervillain that's where you put it perhaps

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unsurprisingly the committee's co-founders Arthur Laffer and Stephen

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Moore are economists with deep connections to the Koch networks and our

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board members for various wings within the American legislative exchange

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council which is their way of putting policies around state legislatures have

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you also oil is great yes yeah as you might expect this is a study that is not

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primarily about mortality from kovat it's an economic institution with strong

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right-wing bends putting out a paper meant to justify the argument the places

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the kept businesses open are better sure to be clear I think that New York and

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California and our beloved Illinois have a lot of valid criticisms that can come

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their way about handling kovat issues but I'm not gonna take a study from the

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committee to unleash prosperity very seriously in terms of that argument and

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Alex hasn't even read the article or the study yeah I am going to dismiss it out

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of hand I am to yeah moving along I think that didn't make your mood that

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much better well I mean I do like the idea of more things have it being named

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unleash yet like more charitable like oh this is the National Center for

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unleashing vaccines on you you know like Alex would be scared of that exactly no

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that's terrifying the the committee to unleash the Kraken exactly so I'm gonna

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make your day a little bit better okay here's Alex rambling about God's mind

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that's what I love of our source our source is God our source is truth our

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source is the sacrifice Christ we receive it and we join with our ancestors

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and our current brethren and those in the future in eternity because eternity

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is not enough wait what what is greater than eternity is unlimited eternities

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what and that is the beginning of the mind of God what well I want to take

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your calls from Chris Michael Alex rush Brandon of nobody does a better job of

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blending the ethereal with the pedestrian I'm talking about

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eternities within God's mind and then immediately I'm gonna take your dumb

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calls oh the eternities beyond eternities the eternities of eternities

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yes I would like the dentine ice please thank you very much yep

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so meaning was rambling about esoteric Christian ideas that you know that's as

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close as we get in the present day to good old singing along with country

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music I think yeah yeah yeah although I think I think there are periodic times

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he sings along with country music but it's so much more rare yeah so Alex

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gives himself a little bit of a status report checking in you know he doesn't

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have a boss but sometimes you got to be your own boss yeah yeah what's this

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great for himself you did a good job okay I did an okay job last hour I I hit

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the mentally ill schizophrenic black supremacist that went in there

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reportedly and shot all these people that because they were white terrible

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situation and it flies in the face of the FBI reported the last two years that

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white people the number one terror threat that doesn't mean there aren't

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crazy white people to go around shooting black folks look at Dylan roof in other

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cases but the media is not gonna stick the knife in and turn it and tell white

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people to hate black people like they would have done if a white person would

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have done this they didn't do that after the Charleston shooting are you saying

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they should be doing that now I believe so you're yeah you're the ideas being

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expressed are really weird and kind of all over the place and just feel

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intensely racist yeah I mean it's hard not to think that he really wants what

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he's saying to be true which I think is a weird headspace you know that's kind

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of the feeling that comes across yeah like I wish that people had said it was

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all white people's fault well no and I was feel like they did right right but I

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mean like I think I think here here's what I would say yeah as opposed to wish

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I think he's confused that people aren't blaming all black people for this yeah

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that's the way that I that's the gap in how he's dealing with this that I feel

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is going on yeah because he feels and thinks that they did blame all white

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people after Dylan roof he's confused that no one's being racist enough right

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something right all right everybody be racist right now I think that's part of

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this yeah yeah yeah so Alex like I said he has not done a good job a lot of it

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was complaining with CNN Plus and he complains a little bit more but Brian

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Stelter Humpty Dumpty okay this goes on too long oh boy no one can put CNN and

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MSNBC in the corner and the whole corporate media back together again Oh

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Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had a great fall and the

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greatest example of that is Brian Stelter who is the living and bottom end

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of Humpty Dumpty the greatest example Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty

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Dumpty said we must censor them all Humpty Dumpty said only I can speak no Humpty

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Dumpty ugly and had disgusting feet what Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty

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Dumpty had a great fall all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't

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put Humpty Dumpty back together again so what can they do so look here's the

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thing that like started the parody started okay yeah he got he made one

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rhyme yeah I think he thought he was fucking he was fire yeah yeah this is

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gonna roll my brain is just going to take me through to the break with this

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amazing rhyme immediately falls apart with the we're the only ones who can

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speak being rhymed with had ugly feet yep I'm seeing Brian Stelter's feet I

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guess maybe does he go into those websites they're creepy websites I'm

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sure yeah I don't know I'm not gonna look it up but I think by the end he's

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just reciting Humpty Dumpty it's not even like a parody yeah I think he was like ooh I was I got a

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much like Icarus I flew too close to the sun and I got to go back to safe harbor but that was too

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long yeah you got to commit to the parody or shut it down just by calling

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him Humpty Dumpty right that's fine right oh man it is this is probably the the

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most or perhaps the closest that Alex and I can feel because both of us have

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absolutely experienced this moment where the improv gun is empty you drop a riff

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you're just like whoa this is me too man I can't count the number of times that I

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was performing at the Laugh Factory and like first of all someone like me does

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not belong on a stage like that where there's a to drink minimum yeah it's

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just all dark a sea of faces so many times just be like some idea or some

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thought I have is like like and there's silence I'm like alright next joke here we go all right I can relate to that feeling a lot oh yeah it's not good but I will say that I

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didn't then retreat to just reciting Humpty Dumpty no I am proud of that no

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part of the part of the job is to overcome mm-hmm yeah so anyway Alex

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wants to talk about Stelter some more you know we always turn him into it the

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clown but it the clowns almost more lovable than Brian Stelter never going

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to not be at the clown mm-hmm it's not even fair to like make him turn into the

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clown on TV it's better just to show his real face yeah yeah please don't turn

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back at the club that's scarier looking than it because that's real why would

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the why would Time Warner why would AT&T want to put that on TV because they want

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to force ugliness and evil and fraud and lies on you because they're hunchback

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and they're ugly spiritually and they like the fact that they're forcing their

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ugliness on us their spiritual ugliness their filth on us I'm gonna stop

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ranting I'm gonna go to your calls gonna get to those calls I gotta assume that

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there's some kind of internal metrics and Alex knows that like when he

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complains about Stelter for long periods of time it does numbers you think or

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something it has to be there's no other explanation for how often he does these

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riffs I mean the man just hates Brian Stelter I think that could I mean that's

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obviously a part of it sure I I just don't know he's never given me anywhere

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near enough of Stelter's crimes to justify this level of dis of hatred I

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think I saw somebody whatever listeners they posted like like Stelter appears

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quite early in our yeah it has been since the beginning of this that he's

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been yelling about it so it's so many years and again it's he hasn't even done

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anything he just I would I would I would argue that I wouldn't know his name if

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it weren't for guaranteed 100% I would maybe be able to recognize him as

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somebody who's on CNN yeah but I would not know his name never so

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congratulations Alex on exposing more people to Brian Stelter so Biden and

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assumably it the clown it Biden has made some comments about guns on the

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aftermath of the the the subway shooting right and Alex wants to like really

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clown on him because for some reason Biden started talking about prostitutes

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in the middle of this talking about guns he's crazy he doesn't know where he is

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man okay here's that clip all right but here's Biden can't even get it right

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when he's saying we need to go after gun manufacturers and then he butchers it

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and brings in prostitutes somehow here it is I said what do you think the deer

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your hunter where Kevlar vest what tell you need 20 bullets for you must be a

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hell of a terrible shot I'm serious think about it think about the mass

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shootings as many as a hundred rounds it's a weapon of war there's nothing to

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do with recreation I'll ride banning the sale and possession of unserialized guns

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eliminate gun manufacturers immunity from liability the only outfit so the

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only outfit in a country that is immune imagine had the tobacco industry been

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immune to prostitute being sued come on yep so you just misspoke prosecution

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right instead of oh my god yep Wow this is this is as big as that Nancy Pelosi

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clip where she misspoke one time this is just the tip of the spear huge this is

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big having this clip now is these metaphorical smoking gun that proves Jim

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Kerry is Joe Biden I would say so yeah I don't think there's any other conclusion

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I mean I think take take Biden's comments however you will agree or

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disagree with him sure I don't think anybody who is acting from a position of

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sincerity could say like that wasn't just him try it misspeaking saying

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prosecution yeah that's pretty fucking clear very similar and trying to make a

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bigger deal out of it seems desperate yeah a lot of people did a lot of that

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with with Trump stuff sure I think sometimes his misspeakings might have

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been a little more funny and I honestly think that if Alex was covering this

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like recognizing that he just misspoke and thought it was funny that that's

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the word that he said yeah I don't think that would be anything even worth

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comment on Alex thinks that like conceptually Biden's bringing

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prostitution here right and it's like well no that's just you just said the

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wrong word yeah yeah yeah your best the best you could do even then is like you

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know oh he's not out of it he's not scrambled it's but it's like yeah he's

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not as quick as he used to be sure and it's like well yeah he's 85 maybe we

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shouldn't have 85 year old presidents that's that's a fine conversation I think

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that angle makes more sense yeah anyway Alex does finally gets calls and he

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takes a call from a guy who believes that the subway shooting was a false

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flag well Adam in New Jersey Adam thank you for calling your on the air

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Alex to be talking to you man just want to let you know you are the tip of the

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spear thank you for everything that you do I want to take up a little bit of

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your time and I live in Jersey and I just feel like this whole thing going on

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in Brooklyn it just seems all too convenient we've seen this move by the

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globalist before they overplay their hand and then they go quickly to the

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other side it's just it's just not making it's not adding up over here and

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I just wanted to get your sure view on it because the conveniently the camera

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failed they said of the thousands of cameras that's the one area where they

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failed that's exactly what I'm saying it seems too coincidental and they just

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happen to find well you're not supposed to ask questions sir just go back to

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sleep come on yeah that's that's my problem I'm awake there's a little bit

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of a misconception about what the actual story is relating to the cameras in the

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subway not working according to officials who spoke to the New York

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Times the issue was a faulty fiber optic cable that affected the station as well

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as two others nearby however this was not the case for all of the cameras in

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the stations Tim Minton the spokesperson for the Metropolitan Transportation

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Authority said quote the suspect was able to be seen and movements evaluated

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with the MTA's assistance he added that the cameras with malfunctioning feeds

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were located at turnstiles quote where they would not be in a position to

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capture any activity on the platforms below right so it wasn't even affecting

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right where they would have needed to be right they were of no assistance and

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despite those failings they were still able to get eyes on Frank James so like

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the the issue is kind of well it's maybe coincidental sure slightly interesting

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on some level but it doesn't really affect the reality of what we're going

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on here what's important is just that Alex might as well have been like okay

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the next caller is a I don't understand golf Wang how big this is weird why are

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you oh it's a false flag that's weird a more skeptical mind might come to this

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sort of different possibility which is that maybe a ton of the cameras in the

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New York subway system don't work and they're just there for show and saying

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that the ones in this station happened to be off is a way of trying to cover

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your ass a little bit I don't know if there's any evidence pointing in that

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direction but it seems like a more reasonable suspicion to have than what

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this caller is getting at I know that I've worked at more than one low-paying

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job where they had cameras that definitely didn't work and at least in

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one case it only came out that the cameras weren't plugged in after someone

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needed footage to prove something it's not unheard of the companies do that

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kind of thing but I think it's a stretch to assume that an entity as large as the

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MTA would do it I mean I'm not saying it's impossible to stretch but but still

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never underestimate the underfunding of public transportation sure but I think

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that's still a far more reasonable conspiracy questioning totally I guess

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angle to have on it then whatever they're talking about absolutely this is

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this is like premeditation they turned off the cameras gear to what end yeah

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here's your conspiracy I the government has been overtaken by the wealthy and

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has transformed itself into what amounts to a kleptocracy that steals money that

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would be going towards say public funded issues like transportation and the like

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and whenever you find out that it needed to be there that's when you discover

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that essentially they're running on a goddamn skeleton of what's been ripped

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away from them I feel like that happens when a bridge collapses yeah anyway this

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same caller has some other dumb ideas and so does Alex they have all these

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videos of his social media if he was some mastermind why does he have all

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these videos basically saying he's crazy out there and now it's suddenly this guy

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it doesn't make sense in the 80s there are a lot of crazy people and the FBI

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did try to go after him at higher-ups blocked it didn't fit the narrative he

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had been a white crazy that had gone after his efforts the narrative I mean I

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don't know if it was a staged event I don't know it's provocateur but we'll

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continue to watch it as it develops what else is on your mind brother so first of

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all no one's necessarily accusing James of being a mastermind this was not the

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most intricately planned attack that has ever been seen it was pretty blunt force

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yeah kind of yeah more importantly though it's really critical to look at

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what Alex is saying here about race Alex's conjecture is that if Frank James

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had been white the FBI wouldn't have killed that investigation into him and

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that they only did that because he's black so it doesn't fit the narrative

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that they want to push what's going on here is that Alex is taking a fake piece

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of information that James was actually on this FBI watch list and using that to

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make the story fit his narrative Alex is the one who's forcing things into a

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predetermined narrative and accepting bad information because it adheres to

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the conclusion that he already wants to be true yeah which is somehow that this

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would have been different if he was white yep and that's because Alex is a

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racist this is purely in service of saying that the entire United States is

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prejudiced against white people right and that's Alex's belief yep so we get

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to a little comment about Russia and Putin and the war uh-huh and how honest

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Putin is how he's one of the most honest people there's ever been Alex didn't say

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that you have no proof okay look memories aren't real oh that's a good

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point how can you prove that yesterday happened I hadn't considered that yeah

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so now Alex is reporting that things are bad for Putin right now all right

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currently Putin is getting smashed and I said Putin went into a trap when it

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first happened right away this will make Afghanistan look like a cakewalk that

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means Soros and the globalists are to blame for starting this but it doesn't

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mean I'm gonna go look Putin's doing a great job oh you're so smart to go in

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there no Putin's finding out I mean look Putin's not done I'll give you that what

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did he think was waiting for him when he went into there what do you think all

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the special forces units of Europe and the and the Delta force the rest of them

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for a decade training the Ukrainians with high-tech weapons yeah but if you

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know that why did you say that they were gonna just all not have any opposition

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and because Russia had paid off everybody and there were no fighting and

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it'd be over in 48 hours what if you knew that they could special forces have

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been training for a decade or whatever right it's all nonsense but I like the

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idea that Afghanistan is gonna be an old-fashioned cake a walker I mean Wow

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what is what is this crazy mixed-up world mmm this is an old-fashioned cake

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a walk is wild so there's a quick clarification that we need to make here

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when the war was just starting Alex did say that Putin had walked into a trap

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but it wasn't about losing a war or the Ukrainian forces repelling an invasion

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Alex was still saying that the Ukrainian military had been bought off and all

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that when Alex said that Putin had walked into a trap he was saying that by

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invading Putin made himself vulnerable to being blamed for a cyber-attack false

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flag that Alex was sure that Klaus Schwab was gonna pull presumably on the

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West yeah Alex was very specific about this and now he's trying to rewrite shit

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about like what the trap was yeah yeah that's why you got a bit you gotta

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really nail down the specifics of words because when he says trap he's he's

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talking about something in his head mm-hmm that you can bring into the

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conversation with something in your head agree that they're both traps and assume

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that Alex is talking about something correct right instead of being like

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here's the problem okay Putin is walking into a trap what has happened the

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Lynskey has set up this box okay and underneath it he's got a plate with a

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cheese sandwich on it and it's held up by a small stick Putin now he doesn't

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even know he can't see that all he sees is a cheese sandwich man I really

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thought you were gonna involve like a marble I was thinking just mousetrap but

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well that's fair all right fine I'm gonna have to soothe my wounds yeah of

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disappointment another call I feel like now but now my riff gun is this

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backfired this is brutal like me at the last factory so here's another caller

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this person took their dad to the VA because they're worried about a vaccine

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injury and they think that their dad got fades Oh which does not exist no my

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father I'm his parv attorney and two years ago he was riding his bike nine

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miles a day Wow so very in-shape elderly yes but

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very in shape and exercise every day and now he can barely walk to his mailbox

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without getting out of breath so I took him to the VA the former vet and I

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wanted some blood work done and because he's had three thoughts and the doctor

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acted like I was crazy because I explained why I wanted this blood work

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done and I had previously before we went I told my dad what I was concerned about

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which is vaccine induced autoimmune deficiency syndrome and the doctor

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literally acted like I was crazy even though it's in all their literature and

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they know it's real they asked you he acted like it was the first time he was

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hearing this information it's not in all their literature I mean like look I

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think that you know among people who are in the elderly set sometimes a couple of

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years can be a really there can be a turnaround yeah like yeah a lot can

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change in a you know relatively short amount of time yeah there's a ton of

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reasons that other than vaccines that could attribute they could be

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attributable to what this this dude is experiencing and you know I mean it

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sucks but I think that she's jumped to some clues some conclusions that are not

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founded and if I were her doctor at the VA I might also be a little bit like I

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don't I don't know if I want to humor this yeah I mean you can't what are you

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gonna say to her like hey you know have you ever tripped on a piece of sidewalk

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whenever the moon is full full moon didn't do that but you remember the moon

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being full that you associated the two of those things together do you see

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where I'm going with the vaccines in your dad here can you prove that the

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moon didn't do it oh shit I am a bad doctor so she's come to a conclusion

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about what's going on and also I think that you know with the whole

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conversation about HIPAA rights no no I don't think that this is a HIPAA

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violation necessarily because there's no identifying information uh-huh you know

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right but for these ding-dongs who talk about HIPAA all day long and and

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complain about stuff I would think that this would be an imaginary violation

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I can hear you start over with what's in the report in the report the T cells I

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wanted to numb his T cells and they're low the B cells B as in boy those are

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also low the CD8 cells those are your absolute suppressor cells low and then

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the t4 t8 race no high and it's very high so I looked up what this t4 t8 race

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no high mean and I got instantly on WebMD Hodgkin's lymphoma so I want you

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and your listeners to know as much hearsay as people are saying that it's

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not affecting your T cells I have proof that it is and I I feel horrible that I

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let him get this it was out of my control to be honest the doctor don't

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feel bad that's what the German scientists have said is that they found

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massive increases in lymphoma Hodgkin's lymphoma to be clear there's plenty of

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reasons that aren't lymphoma why someone would have a high ratio of these cells

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for instance you could have a viral infection that would cause the same test

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result typically this is a ratio that's discussed not in the context of lymphoma

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but in terms of HIV AIDS which makes sense because this woman did say that

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she was badgering this VA doctor to test her her dad for HIV stuff so she thinks

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he has this non-existent condition of AIDS right interestingly you generally

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find decreased ratios of these cells and patients with HIV or AIDS so this test

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essentially is invalidating her entire argument that she came in with right

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which is why she had to run to WebMD to find a new thing to focus on and claim

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that her dad got from the vaccine right there's no good evidence anywhere the

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COVID vaccines caused lymphoma but I think Alex might just be getting

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confused because the vaccine can cause lymphadenopathy which sounds similar

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but is actually just swelling of the lymph nodes right so I think that's

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probably what's going on here although I do feel like this is very sad yeah this

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is that's this person is a victim you know like this is this information space

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yeah I mean and and just to be you know the education system failed and they

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just every part from start to finish that leads you here is not just like her

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choices this is a structural issue maybe to get here but I mean you know the

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education system might not have failed her in many other ways she may be very

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well informed and know a lot about a lot of things sure you know I think you can

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be susceptible to a lot of dumb narratives yeah absolutely I don't know

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if that's necessarily a failing of the education system but it's a it's a

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failing of at least the people who disseminate information like Alex and

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wherever she's pulling from to have some kind of a responsibility yeah to hold

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themselves accountable for what they're putting out and she is a victim of that

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for sure 100% and I feel for her but I also think I mean she's just a person in

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in panic who's whose father is is what I mean to all the parents is dying you

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know like of course trying to find some way to make the anti-vax argument fit

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her particular case yep and it's just a bummer yeah so Alex gets another call

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from someone named Vern and I got excited because I wanted to do an

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earnest thing of course a Vern anyway here's the call in Texas thank you

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Vern hi Alex thank you for taking my call I'm not transgender my real name is

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Veronica but short for Vern hey listen I wanted to I saw dr. artist on I don't

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know what you mean several interviews he did on the 11th two Peters and

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van der Saul Brighton with Mike Adams you really need to get him on your show

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I know he went on Ellen Schroyer show I've heard snake venom I think snake

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venoms in the water yes yes and you know the amount of evidence he presents to

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substantiate his claim is remarkable and you know the information actually has

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been out there on the internet since January 2020 so this is about Stu

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Peters conspiracy documentary called watch the water which features a

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chiropractor named Brian artists and apparently claims that kovat has to do

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with snake venom and the devil here's a synopsis of the documentary from Stu

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Peters page okay quote the plandemic continues but its origins are still a

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nefarious mystery how did the world get sick how did kovat really spread and did

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the satanic elite tell the world about this bio weapon ahead of time dr. Brian

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artist has unveiled a shocking connection between this pandemic and the

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eternal battle of good and evil which began in the Garden of Eden Wow snake

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venom huh yep naturally artist is using this documentary to sell a collection of

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supplements I mean hey you gotta sell supplements and he calls it the anti V

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collection oh my god and you can get it for a limited time sale price of a

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hundred and nine dollars suffice it say this is overpriced apparently after the

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backlash of people making fun of the documentary claiming that the vaccine

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was meant to inject people with Satan's DNA right artists decided that he should

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do some damage control so now he's come out and say that he's been done dirty by

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Peters documentary and it doesn't accurately capture his claim sure sure

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that said a giant ad for the documentary is still on the top of artists his home

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page well leads into a big ad for the anti V collection so I guess he's not

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really that opposed to just because I was a no publicity is good publicity I

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gotta sell these hundred and ten dollar pills sure I'll take what I can get

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limited time sale price Jesus yeah but he got done dirty by Stu Peters saying

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that this has to do with the Garden of Eden or some shit I like the snake venom

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conspiracy because that gives me some sort of hope like one thing that is is

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true about snake venom and and creating anti anti venom is that is that there's

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just not a lot of it and it's really hard to get it's really hard to milk

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venom and if we there's a shortage of all kinds of venom in across the United

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States right so in this scenario someone out there is milking enough venom

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to poison the world which suggests that we won't have to worry about snake

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bites anymore have you considered yeah the Tom Hardy movie ah yes I have which

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one man they're great Tom Hardy's amazing so this is giving you some kind

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of optimism yeah and I will say that I'm a little bit optimistic too because in

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response to this call Alex is like this is bullshit a series of coincidences

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remarkable coincidences truly inspired by God like led him to this supposition

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and then after that he was able to kind of methodically prove that coronavirus

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is actually snake venom specifically the kite snake and the cobra snake and

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what's interesting man let me ask you a question and I'm not poo-pooing this but

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I've interviewed the top scientists I am the viral scans major universities they

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made a virus viruses are able to replicate the body so do you know how

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much snake venom you'd have to put in a water supply to have these type of

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blood clotting effects and things that a snake bite would do your snake bites you

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it pumps in you know say a tenth of an ounce of venom into your half an ounce

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and then it makes you have blood clots in your leg rots off and you die I'm not

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poo-pooing this one we'll get artists on it's I know it's the big big thing right

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now but to to say that the snake venom is being dumped in the water supply it's

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diluted it breaks down electrochemically very quickly what you want is a virus

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because it replicates in the body so it spreads quickly yeah cuz cuz like

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venom is not contagious here's here's how bad it is okay your hole in that

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plot is so big not even Alex can walk through it safely he doesn't think it's

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worth patching up yeah no anything Alex rightly recognizes like well if I were

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to accept this it undoes everything I've been saying yeah yeah it completely

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upends everything that I claim I've proved right right right the pandemic

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and so I can't I can't do this one also come on yes come on yeah that would be

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that would be the most reasonable response I think from Alex would just be

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a come on get out of here I actually think it's fairly generous the way he's

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responding to her because I'm not poo-pooing this is meant to be sort of a

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softening of the blow no and then the the like you understand how much venom

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it would take and also viruses replicate and you need that they do it on their

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own right yeah it's it's kind of nice that he's not just being like this is

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fucking dumb I mean yeah it is it is a little bit disconcerting to have him

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immediately say the most obvious thing which is we don't have enough venom to

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do that ma'am mm-hmm no one does yeah there's a there's an element of critical

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thinking that he's engaging with this theory on and I find it offensive that

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he's capable of it in some circumstances totally second there's an element of

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grace that he's showing towards this caller it's not combative no and it

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shows that there is a possibility that he can act that way towards people which

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is fucked up that is yep although less unexpected is the I'll still interview

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him because everyone is talking about sure I mean you got it yeah you got to

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see what I got to chase that cloud you got a hero made out yeah he's a top

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scientist in his field of chiropractic blah blah blah blah he doctor group went

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to conferences together and drank piss yeah I bet I bet they did so Alex it's

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another caller and boy I think a lot of people you know sometimes if you don't

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engage with Alex's material and you don't listen to his show you don't

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recognize how goddamn religiously insane this this show is yeah listen to this

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caller Alex Jones my brother in Christ how are you today sir I'm good brother

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thank you for calling absolutely the Lord put uh on my heart to come call and

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give you an exhortation and just let you know here you're a crusader a modern-day

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crusader for these times before the return of our Lord and Savior he as you

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know and you've spoke we're in the days of Noah or the days of lot and many are

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just not awake but you as a crusader are Louis leading those as a type like Noah

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as they came up to the sea they looked behind him Pharaoh's army was there

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today that's our evil and in front is a sea that is impenetrable he as the word

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says knew that God will make a way any part of the sea he made it across your

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leading people in that way into the light into the truth and that's going to

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lead to great and mighty things doesn't that Moses yeah I wasn't Noah

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nope no is the flood guy right right he had the boat yeah hmm yeah yeah I think

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I think there's something troubling about like when you understand what

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Alex is actually disseminating as information yeah interpret it and

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experience it as like you're fucking Moses yeah yeah it's you know sometimes

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I think I think you know like listen to this listen to the way this man is

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speaking and what he's saying about Alex and then just go back in time and think

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maybe Moses was just an asshole who said he did all this shit and convinced

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enough people to believe it and then everybody forgot that he was full of

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shit hmm hmm I I just don't like hearing this shit on Alex's well there's

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definitely that so Alex has a guest coming up another guest or I guess a

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guest because he hasn't had a guest yet this episode but it is somebody we have

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not talked about in a little bit uh-huh he is somebody who likes to get permits

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for stages for way fewer people than he plans to bring their Oh fraudulently you

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might uh you might say certainly suspiciously close to somebody likes to

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get the torch pass to him from Roger Stone mustache aficionado I think I

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think yeah you could say that yeah Ali Alexander is back and Alex's

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introduction for him is perfect Ali Alexander is the editorial consultant

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for culture comm political consultant philosopher and activist he's been

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velocity for Republican campaigns conservative issues for more than 13

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years and he's been doing at the national level but now he's much more

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interested in philosophy and building a better society give sin go.com forward

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slash Ali Alexander gab Chris social at Ali telegram and more he joins us now

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good pivot good pivot I'm a philosopher yeah I'm sure okay oh sure I was I was

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previous to this a deeply embedded right-wing political activist right was

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you know coordinating with Paul Gosar and all these other weirdos and you know

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I was involved in campaigns and stuff like that was a apparatchik sure Alex

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might say but now I'm into philosophy now cuz shit got too hot Dan are you

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saying that you don't think people can change not Ali what is this philosophy

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that he's pivoted to that is going to really kind of blow our minds and make

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us forget that he's a monster that's a fantastic question I want to know you

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have a notepad I will I think you should take notes over the course of some of

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these clips okay if you can determine what his whole idea of what Ali

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Alexander ism might be so the first clip maybe not so much philosophical but it

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has to do with reports that his periscope channel like the videos

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aren't available anymore yeah well you know it's absolutely fascinating to me I

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have I have my periscope videos so it's one of the most popular people on the

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periscope service and they have all these videos and now the press reports

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it as now deleted videos Twitter don't like Ali Ali Alexander but national news

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hiding videos you were bitching when they took your channel yeah yeah so when

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I got sued I've been sanctioned like you got rid of your YouTube you're sanctioned

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no dated yeah they took it away a news article saying that Ali's videos have

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since been deleted doesn't necessarily imply that he did the deleting I get

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that he's sensitive but this is a little sad also Alex's situation is entirely

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different the reason he's in trouble here is because when he was sued there

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was an order for the preservation of materials related to the lawsuit this

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was prior to his YouTube channel coming down and in the intermediate period no

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one took any action to preserve the videos that were on the channel that

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were relevant to the case and so they cannot be found now no one is mad at him

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for deleting videos the issue is that he failed in his duty to preserve evidence

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it's a pretty big difference but if Alex gives the appearance of understanding

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the distinction it becomes too obvious that the courts are depressing him at

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all and that his actions have brought him into the situation that he's in and

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that's an intolerable conclusion for the audience to have yeah yeah don't do that

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no so they can just back boy I think they think that they're smart and making

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me look dumb but they're dumb and I'm not dumb you're dumb yeah dummy so

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before this couple days before this it was announced that Ali was going to be

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cooperating with the January 6th committee right he wants to give a very

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opposite perspective or position on this this appearance sure sure sure sure

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because I don't think that play is well although Alex has said he's gonna

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parlay with the FBI right right right well I mean I assume Ali is thinking of

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the great Marcus Aurelius whenever Marcus said you know you got a you got

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to pay the piper that was st. Augustine oh shit man I bet this is why Ali's the

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philosopher and not me you've got to go with more religiously that's a good

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point off with Ali yeah the Stoics weren't really his bag huh mm-hmm and so

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Ali has a bit of a bit of news to break mm-hmm about what the January 6th

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committee is actually up to well let me go ahead and break some news I'm not

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I've not told any report of this and only my lawyers and I are aware of this

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but the January 6th committee is going to try to out lie out out outlaw Bitcoin

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okay they're gonna I mean this is easy but this like Canada but this is leading

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and I knew this in December okay but I want to break it here on info war so

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what you're gonna see the committee do they're gonna say well Donald Trump did

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this Roger Stone did this Rudy did this Ali did this Alex did this here's

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criminal referrals here's things we're not going to criminally refer but we

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really like wink wink nudge nudge the Justice Department to move on and here

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are ten policy recommendations to keep the right wing from ever organizing

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again you're gonna see recommendations in there that try to outlaw telegram try

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to outlaw or censor Bitcoin increase the regulatory environment for Bitcoin so

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that it's harder for more Americans to get in while the rest of the world

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competes with us on this sovereign on the sovereign currency I mean it's very

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astute various very astute so this is Ali playing a preemptive defense game

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because I suspect that he has a pretty good idea that there were some shady

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fucking transactions involving groups that were involved in January 6 that

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were done by Bitcoin and the telegram is a platform that a lot of them used to

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plan and incite people this is an attempt to hijack that conversation

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before it even happens because the ultimate end of it is threatening to

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some aspects of Ali's brand that's all he's doing here right all right I

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wouldn't be too surprised though if there were conversations in the not too

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distant future about more regulation and oversight of Bitcoin but sure I don't

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know how much of that's gonna involve the Jan 6 committee it seems like that's

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just long overdue and there'll be some kind of a financial nightmare that comes

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along probably to do with NFTs right we'll end up in a situation where we

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like well we've got it some sure this doesn't happen again yeah one thing on my

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philosophy watch here nice he disagrees I would imagine with Lautza insofar as

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he does not agree that one who speaks does not know because he sure fucking

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talks a lot I think that you're right although I don't think that would be

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formally codified in his philosophy writing it down that's step one okay I

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think another part of the philosophy that you'll see is like you know kind of

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a Bobby McFerrin ass don't worry be happy sure kind of vibe I like it I'm

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really happy to be in studio today and I'm happy to be with you one because you

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know it's good to be next to somebody who's going through some of the same

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hell that we are but I think I've done this whole 15 months wrong a lot of it's

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been woe is me why isn't the conservative movement doing this or that

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and then I've been watching this series the chosen which has been really good

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I've been getting some counseling from some some Christian friends and they're

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just like you got a smile through this morally and so you know I think that I

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think that like that's my task that's kind of my cross to bury right now but

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everybody everybody if you're listening to this you are part of this and you can

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play a role in this you need a red pill your neighbor you need to make

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prophetic statements about the j6 committee and what I want to do to you

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and your neighbors so that when that time comes around your neighbor says wow

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that person's right what channel do they watch well they watch infowars you need

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to make prophetic statements right will later be used to promote info right right

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I think I think we've number two is eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die

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yeah yeah I think he loves that pectitis I think that's where we go I thought you

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were talking about Dave Matthews back I was well there one and two in my book

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Mon on philosophers there's whatever you switch back and forth whatever you said

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and tripping billions hey what are you gonna say I'm just gonna two-step into

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this crash all right those are my two Dave Matthews band songs so Ali has a

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belief that the GOP they don't want to lose the midterms right but also they

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don't want to win too much well obviously because they win too much

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people will want them to do things that's how I would interpret it right

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I only interprets it more as like if they win too much then the people who

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are gonna have major power are like Marjorie Taylor Greene Paul Gosar right

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these fringe figures will have more of an influence whereas if they have a

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small victory right then Kevin McCarthy will stay being able to whip people into

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place to get things accomplished whereas I don't think I don't think that makes

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much sense because if they have a small victory then the conservative people

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like more individuals have more power far more because they will be the

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deciding factor whether or not something actually yeah I mean his that's the

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exact opposite of how it actually works you bet yeah but that is what Ali is

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promoting or what he's suggesting that is a prophetic statement that later on

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will get people to listen to info a very small victory would be the best thing

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possible for the fringe voices 100% but no they the GOP only wants that you

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have to think about this way if Kevin McCarthy gets too large a red wave the

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conservatives are in control if Kevin McCarthy just gets a little off the tip

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top then he's in control and then we're just gonna have horrible legislation

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they're not gonna go on offense we're not gonna have a committee that

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investigates the summer riots we're not gonna have a reverse day six committee

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to investigate the insurrection that happened on November 3rd and the FBI

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setup that happened on January 6 we're not gonna have any of that so what

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they're trying to do and this is what Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney are doing

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they're setting us up for a tiny red wave so that they can control it and

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then 2024 will all be about pinning DeSantis and Trump against each other by

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taking Trump off of a ballot or two I mean this is the coup part 3 and what's

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frustrating is Ali you've a very successful political analyst people

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respect you yeah I like that at the end I mean that is so dumb yeah like that is

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something that if you said that in any kind of reasonable space the person

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sitting across from you would have to laugh at you well I mean I think that

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some of these priorities that Ali has are just never gonna happen anyway right

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right right for sure whether you had a giant majority in the house or not but I

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think that the possibility of having some like trivial ass going nowhere

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committee or something like that yeah Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to start

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totally I think the likelihood of that is much higher if there's a small

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victory because she could use whatever leverage she has in terms of passing

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something that is a priority for Kevin McCarthy right into like you have to put

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me on this thing right and I will go along with your caucus right like it

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doesn't make any sense it appears that Ali does not understand how negotiating

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power structures function like the the more you need from me and the more power

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I have the the more likely I am to get what I want

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hmm in exchange for giving you what you want it's very simple like if there is a

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60% Republican thing in the house yeah your one vote does not really know hold

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as much clout as it would in the alternative so I don't know but I love

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the which is why Joe Manchin is singularly capable of destroying the

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world right now because that way the less your majority is the more likely

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you are to have the more important individuals are yeah exactly the thing I

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love though is the you know you people take you seriously and Ali's like yeah

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I know they do so excited I'm so smart so we'll talk a little bit of here about

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January 6th defendants and Ali says something that I think is deeply

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problematic and so let me tell the government this yes I regularly talk to

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j6 defendant lawyers over 30 of them and they tell me about the evidence that

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they're looking at on these secure laptops and they're not allowed to make

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it public so they can't talk to anybody about it they can't screenshot it they

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can't do anything the judges won't let it and this evidence in one case would

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exonerate five other cases so what you're watching is a slow-moving train

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wreck of plea deals and what happens is they set the precedent for this it's the

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model for all the rest of country right and so what happens is let's say I get

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20 plea deals well then this next person takes the plea deal and then they get a

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harsher sentence because they didn't or or they get they get taken to a jury

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trial or bench trial and then they get convicted and then well they get a

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harsher sentence because they have to have a harsher sentence in the plea

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deal and so what happens is when the exonerating information comes out here

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and then all these people got a plea deal say well actually we want to

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revisit it the judges say no we're gonna we're gonna quash that motion we're

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gonna quash that if there's actual evidence that's exonerating that these

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lawyers are in possession of they could get it in front of a judge even if it is

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confidential or something like that they have this they'd be able to present it

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the only way they wouldn't is if they didn't attempt to yeah look I suspected

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what Alec what Ali is talking about isn't so much evidence as it is heavy

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insinuation this is the kind of thing that is called evidence on info Wars but

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probably wouldn't play in an actual court it's kind of persuasive in the

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court of public opinion I feel like that's what Ali is talking about yeah

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yeah also if Ali is telling the truth and January 6 defense lawyers are

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leaking privileged information to him that he's then discussing on info Wars

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that is a gigantic confidentiality problem and there could be some real

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consequences for that these lawyers might be risking disbarment which

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honestly wouldn't be too surprising considering that Ali's last lawyer

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Jonathan Mosley was just disbarred for breaking six rules of professional

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conduct sure yeah so I don't know if I were him I would stop insinuating that

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you're in contact with lawyers who are doing things that would probably get

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them disbarred it is it is kind of amazing that despite the the massive

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amount of consequences coming their way through the legal system none of them

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have really spent enough time like educating themselves on how this is

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gonna work mm-hmm you know like there's so many things where you're like no

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you're that's no what but but in what are you doing but in this case I think

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Ali's just talking shit so I mean I don't I don't think that he that's

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probably true I don't think he's actually putting any of these lawyers in

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jeopardy I think that what he he's not saying anything specific but he's being

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he's showing a posture of revealing privilege information sure and that that

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I think could be something that courts do not look at fondly it doesn't go

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over well no maybe not disbarment but certainly some kind of a censure I mean

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I am imagining that it's not quite putting out a million dollar bounty but

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yeah yeah that's actually totally cool yeah yeah 100% so do you own any camo

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clothing no I do not good I have never been needing to disappear into the woods

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that means that you still get to protest hey if you wear camouflage to a rally

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from now on you get what's called an FBI threat tag okay that hasn't always been

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the case think about this we survived the tea party we survived the the the

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Gifford shooting we survived all of those controversies where still you

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could wear militia gear and not automatically get tagged now because of

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January 6 and what they did to our beautiful peaceful protest if you wear

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camouflage at any protests across this country and the FBI can identify you you

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get what's called an FBI threat tag associated with you and you get an FBI

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profile created for you he sounds like an excited angry baby yeah I mean people

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complain about me being screaming loud all the time Jesus that's annoying yeah

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yeah and also like I think that I I am I am flabbergasted the idea that the FBI

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would open files on anybody who wore camo protest I mean it's ludicrous yeah

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the waste of resources that that would be typifying is yeah I mean I know that

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our government likes to waste resources sure this is an unthinkable level of

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waste yeah I mean I I suppose maybe the best you could say for that is just like

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yeah the people who did the whole you know zip tie handcuffs and everything

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they were tagged for good reason and it wasn't just because they were they

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weren't tagged they were arrested yeah yeah exactly but that's more individual

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it's based on actions not clothing right whatever yeah that's insane you know how

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many camo like designs what is what is camo if you're gonna do that if you're

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gonna say that what is camo well I mean yes in some spheres if you wore like a

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pattern of a chain link fence that could be exactly if you if you were one of

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those pictures that had people paint you until you disappeared into the

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background that seems like maybe a taskmaster episode I mean wouldn't

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wouldn't real camo be like wearing a regular ass t-shirt and jeans well you're

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gonna get on the FBI's list for that exactly anyway this is this is where I

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think some philosophy comes in so close all right I will

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Ollie Alexander how do we stop a civil war that globalists are trying to

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trigger how do we de-escalate this well you know what I want to in that I want

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to answer the question you just asked what happened January 6th I don't know

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and I'm actually convinced sorry that that some of the conspiracy ends and

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then Satan's domain starts because I I'm you know I'm you know you you follow

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this stuff way more than I have you know you and you've done it for over 25 years

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and I have a great understanding of campaigns large organizations and

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government but I don't see something like this fully cooperating with each

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other without a supernatural force influencing everything yeah here's what

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I say guilty that's that's that's what I say to that I mean honestly all all

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evidence all trial-based everything is done that guy said that because he did

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it duh come on come on you don't say that not even a crazy person says that

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unless they did it I did it thing to say you might as well have been like I

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wanted to over yeah that was me a conspiracy goes so far but then Satan

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guilty how can people do things if they're not super natural it's too many

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jail him sir bailiff uh-huh Ali is a little bit much I you know I think that

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listening to this I started to realize that I didn't miss him so I hate him

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this is the worst though I do think that he is the kind of cat who comes on and

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ends up you know the saying the quiet part loud a little bit Alex I was

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talking to someone I was talking to a conservative publisher and I explained

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to that conservative publisher you don't need to convince the public they need to

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chill white women who have ping-pong between the two parties and that affects

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like 30 or 40 different districts in America so it's like Fulton County it's

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Orange County in California and that means the difference of this many seats

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and so what they they're targeting white women okay with these things and white

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women don't like scandals they don't like the accusation of being called a

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racist but they don't like CRT so right now we have CRT turning out white women

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in record numbers for the hammer CRT yeah we got a hammer it you know if I

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was advising you know some of these giant Republican organizations I would

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say CRT is something that the Tea Party stopped the steal and Trump wasn't these

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white women know they're little five-year-old white babies on a racist

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they know their babies ain't a racist and they don't want them to come home

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and call them a racist okay you know you know I think this is a little cynical

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Wow yeah that's so I think I think that you know that that's kind of just a good

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summation of how how you know this operates and I think I think that you

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hear similar things that aren't as craven and cynical in terms of like what

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messaging surrounding Medicare for all is right right what what messaging is

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most attractive to mmm XY or Z but that's you know largely surrounding an

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issue that is real yeah whereas CRT and all that stuff is a manufactured problem

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that they're like oh yes if we drive this messaging surrounding this this

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non-issue right it scares white women and it'll inspire enough to vote that we

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can flip a couple things yeah I mean the just this idea that it listen it does

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not matter if CRT means anything mm-hmm it doesn't matter if what we're talking

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about is educating people about racism mm-hmm it does not that's nowhere

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important right what's important is making people think that if you go to

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school your kids are gonna tell you you're a racist where where mom you're

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racist exactly and then the mom's gonna be like well we've got a vote for

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Republicans so they can wait so then they can dominate the critical race

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there and then that would lower the status of so okay so they're just

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racist hmm yep so there's one last clip here in Ali has an interesting take on

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how people like you and me I would guess if he was to talk to us he would he

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would look at us as like cavemen we are we were we're backwards thinking folks

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whereas people like him who want a religiously ordered society basically a

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theocracy right they're the real innovators they are the real forward

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thinking hold on who have like a stop one okay hey there has to be a change in

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our consciousness I'm not one of these New Age Christ consciousness folks or

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whatever but it's true when we all change our consciousness and get it yeah

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that's what we went yeah and and that's what we have to do and that's what Jesus

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did in contrast to the Pharisees and the Sadducees he said there's a different

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way to abide by the law and by the way now it's universal and so we need to

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have a different way of saying we believe in these archetypes and we

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believe in these traditions and you don't need to pay attention the

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Republican label or the conservative label anymore these work for humanity

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they've led to a population of 7 billion people and we should applaud that and we

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want to go to 10 billion we need interstellar exactly so there's a move

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though to get rid of what works because the globalists have their new model they

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want to bring in transhumanism it's super weird because they're archaic they

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are everything they say they're the pagans they're the cavemen you know

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where are the people who are dreaming loving and coming together yeah I claim

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we're not you know like let's not forget it was the church that added harmony to

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music it was the church that funded art that led to the Renaissance and so in a

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lot of ways we are always seeking on the right to commune with God in innovative

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ways that don't get rid of tradition that roots us at a civil society that's

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fascinating oh I think I think Ali might want to unpack how the church was like

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the only people who had money at a certain time to fun certain things like

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arts interesting and I think he might want to also take a little bit of a step

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back and recognize the massive censorship that was involved in what the

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church would follow yeah yeah I don't think he would necessarily oh I guess he

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probably would because it would be censoring things that he was opposed to

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she'd probably be fine with that kind of rank centralized censorship no he

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wouldn't because they would be censoring things that he himself likes for him but

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he does not want the culture to enjoy and when this happens as it always does

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people go oh wait I didn't know you were going to do that this has gotten out of

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my control and now we have a pope yeah yeah maybe that's true maybe that's true

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but yeah I think I think his conception is a little bit limited in terms of the

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the the extent to which the church was interested in the arts I mean as as

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somebody well you know I am a I'm an appreciator of music that's true for

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somebody to claim straight-facedly the church brought harmony church brought

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harmony to music is an insult of I don't know what level of proportion can exist

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but it is that proportion well I looked into it and I regret to inform you that

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the church invented harmony really no holy shit that's crazy how did they do

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it was it the Angels yes oh that would make sense I I don't know and I also

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think it's really silly to claim that Christianity is responsible for there

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being seven billion people I mean that the things that he just said there are

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so ridiculous to claim mm-hmm that I I mean he would if he was ever pressed to

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actually believe that stuff explain him yeah yeah they'd be like wow you know I

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was saying this I think that's one of the things that I brought up about Ali

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in the past a number of times he's just a shit-talking extremist yeah like he's

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just a zealot and it's really outrageous that some of the stuff that he ends up

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saying first of all some of it's just dumb yeah and then some of it is stuff

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like January 6th had to be the devil's doing because how do you coordinate all

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these people without a supernatural force your honor guilty right yeah okay

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man Wow why do you talk publicly I mean you know it is it is kind of a an

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example of something that always exists in this type of a movement which is just

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a person who's willing to say anything I think that they have a lot of those

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people well yeah I mean well yeah that's fair

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lousy with those people right but I mean anything just anything

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yep wild yep how do you how do you go to sleep at night you know people ask that

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whenever they talk to serial killers and that kind of thing and I think they're

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serial killers they probably sleep just fine I'm talking about Ali how does he

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sleep at night his brain has to just be filled with like reasons that people

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hate him right he sleeps on I was gonna try and go into it yeah I don't know

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yeah I these people are a mystery to me hmm but I think they're I have some

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trouble coming yeah yeah but we'll see anyway Jordan will be back for another

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episode but we have reached the end of this one and Alex in the present sucks

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yep sucks truth shitty coverage of the the subway shooting shitty phone calls

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and shitty conversation with Ali Alexander oh yeah woof yeah but

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hopefully greener pastures next time huh hey look that deep exhale that's a good

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hopeful deep exhale okay well I'm hopeful about the dreamy creamy summer

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it's gonna be a good way it is upon us it is happy well I guess it's not yet

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actually because we got a couple days left for 20 yep um but hey we'll be back

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on 420 I think is that true I think so we will be back inaugurating the dreamy

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creamy so I might actually end up eating an ice cream thing on the next episode I

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think you would have to it might yep but we'll find out then until then we have a

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website we do it's knowledge fight calm yep we're also on Twitter we are on

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Twitter sad knowledge underscore fight now go to bed Jordan yep we'll be back

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until then I'm neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I am NOT fucking buying your chili you

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can't make me and now here comes the sex robot Andy in Kansas you're on the air

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thanks for holding well Alex I'm a first-time caller I'm a huge fan I love

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your work I love you