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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for knowledgefight, knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge Fight.
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Dan and Jordan, Knowledge Fight.
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I need money.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, Andy and...
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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a 50-cent color, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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Knowledgefight.com
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I love you
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Hey everybody
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Welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages
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and talk a little bit about Alex
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Ooooh
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This is what happens when we record in the morning
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Alex Jones talk
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Hey Dan!
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Dan, I have a quick question for you. What's up?
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What's your bright spot this morning?
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Well, this morning my bright spot, Jordan, is
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we're recording this
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and it's delayed and I appreciate everybody's
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understanding. The weather in Chicago was
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such that recording last night would have been
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a disaster
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unnecessary
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risk in terms of
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transportation
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and my bright spot, I guess, is
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that because of that
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little scheduling
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mix-up, shake-up, I was able to
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watch a little bit of the Royal Rumble last night
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Oh, okay
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I love a Royal Rumble
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Royal Rumble's the one where thirty people
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run in every five minutes
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I think it's every two or three minutes
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but the time is fake
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It's all fake
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Who is the person this time who ran in
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and within less than five seconds is gone?
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I don't know if it was less than five seconds
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but the sort of joke
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elimination person was
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The Hurricane
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is a character who's a superhero
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Wait, a guy named The Hurricane
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was tossed out quickly?
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Carter
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There's a guy named Hurricane
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and he's a sort of
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goof character who is a superhero
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and he got
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eliminated pretty fast
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That'll happen
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I love a Royal Rumble
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I do enjoy the pace of it
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I like the idea of
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people just keep coming
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Theme songs kick in
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which is one of my favorite things
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There's exciting returns
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and you know
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there's a lot of potential for good storytelling
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in that structure
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and yeah
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I enjoyed it
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A lot of people are probably asking if I have
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thoughts about it
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I don't have thoughts about it
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It just was
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Hurricane was my favorite character
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For sure
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It was fun though
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It was nice. How about you?
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My Bright Spot Dan is a movie
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called PG colon
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Psycho Gorman
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and it is
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You guys listening cannot tell
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that Jordan just leaned in very hard
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Serious
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It's one of those movies
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that was made by just
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somebody for
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50 bucks or whatever
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It is a live action cartoon
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that is very occasionally
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incredibly funny
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in a dry deadpan
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way and also incredibly terrible
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but it's one of those movies that I'm not
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going to recommend anybody watch
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but I'm so happy it exists
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What year are we talking about?
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Immediately
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This is recent?
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Yeah
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It's just wild and out there
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It's one of those things where you're just
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happy that something like that is real
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If it didn't exist
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I've thought about willing something like
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that into existence before
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Do you think that this has a possibility
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of becoming a cult classic?
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I do not
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Aggressive head shaking
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It's not good and people aren't going to watch it
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or enjoy it but it's there
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Wow high praise
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It's important to be there
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It's important for it to exist
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I don't know how to describe something more
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aptly than that
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I feel like I understand exactly what you're talking about
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and I have no idea what this thing is
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Yeah exactly
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We're going to be talking about the time span
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between January 28th and
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31st 2021 Blackjack
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Yeah dammit I was actually
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my plan on the way here
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when he starts I'm going to go
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Blehhhh
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And then when you're done I'll go
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Backfired
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Failed miserably
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We're not actually going to be talking about
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the 29th on Friday because that was a
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travel day for Alex coming back from Utah
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vacation
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I'm not going to be talking about the 30th
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because that was Saturday
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although I do have a little bit of something to say
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Alex did a special
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report with
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Stuart Rhodes of the Oathkeepers
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in studio
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where they did running commentary
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over a documentary
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about the lockdown
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or something
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I was watching it and I was thinking
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maybe we'll cover this but it's
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just the two of them having kind of a casual
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conversation about secession
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and it's not really
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Beyond
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just saying that they did that and that
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Stuart Rhodes is standing by
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the Oathkeepers who got arrested
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Of course
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That's all they really need to know
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I imagine he wakes up every morning and he's like
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Hey they didn't get me yet
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That's it. That's his life now
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Oh the other thing that was worth
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pointing out is that Stuart Rhodes
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was saying that what you should do
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is throw a big rave
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and then when the police come to shut it down
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shoot at them
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Basically it was his
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They're encroaching
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on your right to live freely
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and then you know
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start it off
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So here's what we do
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We set a trap for the law
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That's basically his version of
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civil disobedience
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Do something that will
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attract the police and when they try to arrest you
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start fighting
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Okay so here's what we do
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We hold a big rave but before that
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we dig some trenches right
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outside the rave and then put some
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wooden spikes in there
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and then cover it with leaves and when the cops come
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they'll all fall and impale themselves
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It's a pretty good plan Now Stuart I like your plan
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Have you considered quicksand?
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Instead of
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spikes I find that quicksand works better
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destroys the evidence
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Derek actually came up with
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moat and but
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it's just too much I love moats
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Now have you considered this
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I know a guy
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who likes to hoist safes
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Get a pulley system going
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Have a safe hanging way up in the air
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I'm liking it I'm liking it Sometimes people use
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pianos Sometimes people use pianos
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I love pianos That is a possibility as well
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When the cops come
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drop the piano or safe
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Also we need to have
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two people walking by holding a very
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pain of glass
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I do like the idea
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that it just turns into
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Looney Tunes There's a watermelon
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cart The whole thing
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Someone walks through with a bunch of pies
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Yeah
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It's not a good
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special report by any means
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It's not interesting and it's very
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long and we'll not be covering
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it So Jordan
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this episode we'll get down to business on it
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So first let's take a little moment to say thank you
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to some folks that have signed up or are supporting the show
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That's a good idea So first the Bashki
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thank you so much You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk Thank you
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Thank you So much Then you're now
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a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk
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Thanks Aaron! Thank you
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Next the Watson Alex had to go full
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till boogie on thank you so much You are now a policy wonk
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank you, the Watson that has to go
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full till boogie on Wil Huang
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Zach the Axe thank you so much You are now
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I'm a policy wonk
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Thank You Zach and also
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Someone who donated on an elevated level actually bequeathed their their shout-out
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In a way that I think is really cool, so I'm still gonna give them a shout-out Tom
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You're you're a technocrat Tom, but Tom wanted to give a shout-out to Chicago bond org
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Which is the Chicago community bail fund and I know that we've brought up. You know like if
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You know donate to a local charity bail fund in your area
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But you know that's a specific one here in the city of Chicago, and yeah, I don't know that one
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Then it's something that you know pointing pointing out a specific may be helpful in terms of like you know
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Recognizing people in your area there is an analogous version of this so please
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If you feel so inclined check out the local bail fund in your area
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Please do and I guess Chicago bail fund you're a technocrat ah sure I'm a policy wonk crikey mate
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That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro. We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson alright
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Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin
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Why you pimps so good my neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you
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Thank you so much Tom and the Chicago bail fund yes
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Thank you very much to the community bail fund community bail fund and then another thing
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We should take care of here up top Jordan is we've got a couple of
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Wonks out there who are celebrating the rotation around the Sun indeed
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First Matthias got in touch with us and wanted us to give a shout out to Anna who had a birthday actually Sunday yesterday
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Yeah, as we're recording. We would have recorded it on the day of your birth. Yes, so happy birthday
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Either way yeah, absolutely. I hope you have better 20 21 than 20 20 black check agreed
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Don't you dare?
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Kevin Kneeland me with
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Black jacks
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Maria reached out and wanted us to wish a happy birthday to Eric and that's Eric with an a
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It was a birthday is actually tomorrow February 2nd, and I got to say Eric if you're listening
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Get fucking work on your thesis work on your history thesis
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It's like enough too long. Yeah, what are we gonna be positive get to fucking work?
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Ask that we wish him luck yep
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I've decided to school. Yeah get that thesis. How we do it absolutely also good luck on that thesis for sure
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Happy birthday to you
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And also to Anna and everybody else who's celebrating a birthday here in 2121 blackjack
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There's one god damn it Dan. There's one birthday wish from
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David O'Daugherty
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Who says that every song should have a recognition of death as well?
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And his song for happy birthday is happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you
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Did you know that the rate of prostate cancer in men over the age of 85 is 100% so there you go?
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Happy birthday put a downer
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Here's an out-of-context drop from today's show
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Burn in hell Frederick Nietzsche and Joe Biden and the rest of you Satanist Wow
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Quite a quite a Nietzsche and Biden mm-hmm quite a group. That's a that's a list of
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the two luminaries of
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Philosophical thought I think when I think of Nietzsche I think of Biden when I think of Biden
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I think of Nietzsche of course. Yeah, what is Biden, but the ubermensch indeed yeah, so here we start on the 28th
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Alex has
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Kind of figured out that at this point that oh boy some oath keepers got arrested
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Yeah, because they stormed the Capitol yeah, I gotta figure out how this boys not
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boogaloo
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Straight up both keepers and and with a lot of these other groups
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He's sort of been able to figure out how to thread the needle with Q anon. It's like okay
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Yeah, it was all a setup mm-hmm with the the proud boys ah Enrique Tarrio
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He is a fed totally totally absolutely easy stuff. Yeah with Antifa obviously. I hate them already
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Yeah
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Both keepers are a little bit more difficult because Alex is
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Long time friends with Stuart Rhodes, but he's been a huge promoter of them
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And so he kind of has got to be like hey somebody infiltrated
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them
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The old keepers have had three of their group
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indicted
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For going in to the Capitol and of course they have informants of people claiming that they were training
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Months before there's some type of capital incursion who knows if any of that's true
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But the point is is that they are sending infiltrators into every major organization. Yeah, who knows could be anybody yeah
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Yeah, right. We're always we're always infiltrating wrong somebody strong take now now
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So I was I was kind of confused when I launched into this episode because the day before this Alex had interviewed the
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Boogaloo boy Mike Dunn mm-hmm
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As I was listening back as I doing the episode. I realized that we missed a real
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Great opportunity for a Mike Dunn Mike down
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Oh
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Did we miss a great opportunity or did we just miss a an okay opportunity yeah
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I might have just been okay, but it was there on the table and we missed it
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Alex had been humiliated and brow beaten by this guy. I was like okay
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I know that he's gonna interview another Boogaloo dude on this 28th January 28th episode
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It's like okay
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Let's get to it, and he does not get to it instead this kind of seems to be where his head's at
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And for me, let me just lay out what I think's biggest and first and foremost
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Trump if he gets off the defense could be the president of the world as Chris ready
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Said in a very important interview. That's gone viral last night. We should grab that
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Chris ruddy interview it's on Newsmax. It's got about a million views as of this morning when I watch it 5 a.m.
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And he says Trump can now be president of the world. That's actually a true statement
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What the fuck are you talking all right, okay?
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So if I understand correctly Trump can become president of the world
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power and
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Popularity yeah, so Xi Jinping is just gonna be like hey, man
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I got you're just got to be the president of the world you got it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely
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Absolutely, they're all gonna jump on board listen. I get it listen. I'm
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Aggressively against your policies, and I think you're a toxic influence, but
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Is he the president of Burma now is that how this goes Myanmar I know
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Whenever it's taken over by a Junta
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You make an interesting point yeah um I would say that first of all president of the world doesn't exist fair president of the
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World being a position implies world government
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I would say that would be him being a globalist if if anyone could be a globalist it would be president of the world
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I don't want like Obama to be the president of the world
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I don't want Hillary to be the president absolutely not
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But I do remember a lot of time spent on
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Infowars where Alex was talking about how Hillary was gonna be the president sure and then bill was going to become the secretary general
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Of the UN yeah, and then they would be together the president of the world you got this was evil
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Yeah, now Alex is I guess excited about Trump being the president of the world which sure again doesn't exist no
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Whoa oh boy very dumb, which is is he going to get the whole world on board?
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Or like what is he gonna do with the holdouts? I guess conquer them. Yeah, he would have to
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I mean, it's yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that goes unspoken
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There's one thing I know about Eritrea. They're not backing down
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Switzerland gonna try to stay neutral
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so
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High minded concerns Trump in the possibility of being the president of the world sure certainly very serious mm-hmm
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Also, Alex is a little bit petty
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Mmm. I'm told by sources close to Biden that he has to read a teleprompter speech up to five times before he can give one
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That's half-decent like he gave that very short
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Shortest really ever inaugural speech I've heard of I mean Trump's over an hour long Biden's was less than ten minutes
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Yeah, and that's because he had to rehearse that at least five times when he's not rehearsed folks
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He doesn't know what planet he is on is it possible that Trump's was too long. Why is
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His preparation the worst thing a human can do in our world yeah that that is so bizarre like yeah
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Oh, he took it seriously
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You know what I'm gonna. Go. I'm gonna go crazy on Alex. Let me tell you this
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I've got maybe 45 minutes of material
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It took me 10 years to write that and I practiced it way more than five times. Yeah, one of the things about performance
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Is oftentimes you prepare to?
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to
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Appear unprepared yes or to prepare like you you want to feel natural. Yeah, I don't understand
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You have to say something a million times to make it sound like you're saying it the first time there's a very big difference between
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somebody who is
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Desperately unprepared and off the cuff and somebody who is able to
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Do things off the cuff yeah, I I don't I don't like
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This particular instance too is very bizarre to me because it's the inauguration speech. Yeah, that's
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Probably one of the most important
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biggest sort of
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highest respect
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Speeches it's kind of a big deal that you're going to give especially in the early times of your presidency
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You're gonna set the course maybe give a thesis for like what you want
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To achieve in your time in office
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I set the tone. I don't want somebody just being like ah fuck it. I'm gonna
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I
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Think that what Alex is saying is a bad thing about Biden is a actually a really good
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I would argue that someone who gives a 10-minute speech over someone who gives an hour speech is always better and
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Maybe the preparation allowed him to parse it down to 10 minutes. Maybe trim the fat
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Editing is about getting rid of stuff. Yeah
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so
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Now that Alex knows that the Oath Keepers were there and arrested and that's gonna be infiltrators
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maybe
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I'll see how Stewart Alex has got a kind of adjust the narrative a little bit and what I think is really funny about this
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Is that Alex has to keep changing the narrative?
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Whenever new groups of right-wing people are proven to have been there and arrested. There's an issue there
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So here's the newest version if we just don't let them use this capital event that they clearly infiltrated Patriot groups
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They used Antifa to lead the chance
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They got two or three people from each large Patriot group Boogaloo's
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Quasi-patriot Oh and Troy are people there but I think overall it's being controlled
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The the the Oath Keepers who've been a great organization. They really do remember
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Still being set up. I've done a great job right here led by Stuart Rhodes. And then of course, you've got the proud boys that
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Good people overall, but it's perfect to be set up at infiltrated and I've reviewed all the footage
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There were Boogaloo's there were proud boys and there were
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Three Oath Keepers out of the organization tens of thousands
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It's true though that that that did lead the break into the capital and I've spent hours again last night this morning
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And now that it's all codified now that it's all come out
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I actually got tears in my eyes this morning having to watch a Wall Street Journal report
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That shows the three proud boys being instrumental breaking into the capital
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And they can say oh we showed them and all this stuff
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They're not all fed. Some of them are just useful idiots. They got caught up in the mob psychology
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But we're not gonna be like the media and lie
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You know about things and just you know, say it was all provocateur. It was all staged
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If some of it was people being foolish, so what he's trying to imply and he does on this episode
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Is that like the people who are leading the charge?
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There's a couple people from each group that they had got set up right to
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Make everyone in those groups look guilty, correct? This is complicated. So
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Every single right-wing group was infiltrated. Uh-huh, and then led to the capital to
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Overthrow the government right now. Let me ask you this question Dan
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Yeah, why was it so easy to lead them to the capital? Hmm? Is it maybe because they wanted to do it?
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I mean, obviously, yes, it's not entrapment even if Alex is
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A complete nonsensical conspiracy is true. Yeah, but also none of that is true. It just
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Did it know you you guys tried and you failed that's it
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You tried to overthrow a country, but you're not a unita. So you failed
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The end yeah, and also I don't feel like Joe Biggs would like this kind of tone from Alex
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Mm-hmm, because it implies that at best he's a useful idiot. Yeah. Yeah, he's calling everybody
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What it this is almost like the revenge of stevie peas like now you're all useful idiots
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I'm still the smart one. Damn it. I'm still standing. Yeah
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Joe Biggs has got a like I
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I got to imagine he's gonna have some complicated therapy in prison about his relationship with Alex
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Mm-hmm, because he gets fired from it for wars because of Pizzagate star or he leaves
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He tries to start his own news operation Alex kind of is associated with but it's like I don't know keep it an arm's distance
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Yeah, the proud boys show up. He decides I'm jumping in both feet
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Why not he rises through the ranks of the proud boys becomes like
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Really high up in the proud boys makes a name for himself in the in the aggressive dangerous right-wing community
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And then storms the capital and goes to prison. Wow. It's so crazy that when it becomes convenient, they just cut loose
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Yeah, isn't it? So weird. They don't have that loyalty or anything like that
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Who would have guessed man who could have seen that coming? We've seen it happen with all of these groups as Alex
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So someone who is loyal to a fault someone who is just just
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You know true true as the day is long. I don't know why not Roger Stone is back. Okay, and
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He kind of wants to imply that everybody who's into history is a secret leftist
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Okay, they want to erase this record in one word impeachment Nixon impeachment Trump
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Impeachment it's not right and it's not fair and we know that history is written by the left the historians are
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leftists some of some authors like Rick Perlstein pose as
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Historians they're not historians. They're
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Propagandists, we can't let this happen. You see I think this last final battle for the president is crucial for his legacy
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There is this battle of a historical
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Pushing yeah that you see that is that is a really it's an interesting thing
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That seems to be at least subtly behind a lot of these these right-wing figures
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That I find this very interesting the way like sort of Alex believes in lore
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As being real. Yeah, and just completely false versions of history
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Roger is attacking historians as the left. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the problem is history
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Is left-leaning?
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The more you read about history the more you're like, oh those fascists are bad and the more you see the fascists
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You're like, oh in the modern times the people who are doing the fascism are
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Roger Stone and his ilk so it kind of does seem like it's in their interest to portray all of history as
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evil, yeah, I mean history is unkind to those who want to cling to
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Biases and bigotries of the past totally and I mean pretty clear anyway
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Alex is wants to talk to Roger about the impeachment trial. Yeah, the impeachment trial is foremost in his mind and
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He really wants this fucking thing to be a circus. Mm-hmm
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He really wants Trump to go I don't want it to be you're out of order. I want it to be a circus, too
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I don't I I wonder what would be the most sort of politically useful thing
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For the sort of policies that we would like sure sure
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Would it be more effective for it just to be sort of quiet and go through like the process or would it be effective?
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I think if it's a circus, it's probably more effective in splintering the the GOP. Yeah
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Yeah, I think that it would lead to
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such a
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Embarrassing showcase that you know people in the Senate would have much more
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baggage
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For not voting to convict. Oh, yeah, absolutely
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And I think that maybe that would be politically useful, but I'm not positive
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It would also be a pretty embarrassing thing just to watch. I mean for the concept of justice
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which if you don't have a kind of shared element of
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Justice a society can't function. Mm-hmm
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So the idea of holding like a two-day little like hey Trump, you're evil
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5545 you're acquitted is so offensive to the concept of justice that it's like why?
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Why believe that any punishment will ever come to these evil fries?
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I'm I'm I'm not even trying to predict or talk about like conviction or acquittal
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I'm talking about the strategy of Trump. No totally there. That's what I'm saying about a two-day trial or something like that
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that's so offensive to me of like we have
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Evidence that is
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Controvertible, I guess I guess what you're saying makes sense like a two-day trial with an acquittal or whatever is kind of
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Yeah, it's whereas a week two-week trial where Trump is going crazy
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Yeah screaming nonsense conspiracy theories and then an acquittal could be toxic to the people who voted for acquittal
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Here's the biggest reason. Here's the biggest reason. I don't know how long Trump can be quiet for his lawyers true
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So the shorter lawyers wow, he's got two and Barnes is coming baby. I think they all quit
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Well, I think the five quit and now he got to like yesterday or something like that, but probably great lawyer. Yeah
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Yeah, oh, yeah
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God was who but like the longer it goes on the more likely Trump is to be like
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I've got something to say and once we get there then the fireworks start happening left and right it is gonna be Barnes, isn't it?
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It's totally gonna be Barnes. I feel it in my bones. Yeah, I can't wait to say good job Barnes or good work
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It's gonna be so good and I think Trump needs to go in there swinging and saying I'm the guy that's pro law and order
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I'm the guy that was you know, trying to expose this election fraud
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I'm the he can use that as a place to put on the evidence of election fraud as well
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They're not gonna be able to tell him to shut up. This would be spectacular
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This would be the ultimate reality TV show and according to many scholars
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He could get up to two months of the time to put on his evidence properly hell
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Yeah, doesn't agree up front to just let a few lawyers represent him if he does that they're gonna hang him out to dry
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What do you think? I think that they can tell him to shut up. Yes, they can
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Like if someone is being completely uncooperative
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I'm just being like out of order. You could try him in absentia. No, haven't you seen a
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Like haven't you ever been to a court, you know
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One of those quick traffic courts where they go all day
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You're allowed to just scream for as long as you want up to two months and they can't do anything to this thing
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It's contempt of course. Nope, not at all
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Especially not in the Senate. It's a crucial loophole that we refuse to close never but if you just misbehave in court
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Yep, you get off you wait him out. Yeah
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Yeah, some people say tubal cane. Some people just wait him out. Yeah, some people go
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Yeah, I
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Don't think this is a good idea
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I do. I think this is dumb in terms of the goals that Alex has I think it's in the real world
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It would probably be unproductive and I think that there's another idea that's going around that also would be
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Unproductive to the goals that Alex has although because I'm against those goals. I think that maybe they should do it
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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure. I'm egging you on I have bad. I haven't fully
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thought about or considered the
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Logistics or the possibilities of this idea of the Patriot Party right a Trump party splitting
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But just from sort of a basic view. I think what you would end up doing is completely
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Fracturing the right-wing vote. Yeah, the conservative vote would not be unified and Democrats would probably run
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Roughshod have a great almost every election. They might even get DC into statehood
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It seems like that would be a really bad decision in terms of the right
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Electorally if they had a two-month trial for Trump to present his evidence, uh-huh. They would have to talk real slow. I
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Think Rudy could handle it
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But the
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Roger is against this idea of the the Patriot Party, which I think is probably good political instincts on his part
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I think I think that there's a lot of dangers in terms of like were that party to get rolling and have
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any kind of
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Actual foothold in power. Yeah, I think you could end up with a pretty
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Terrifying Overton window kind of situation, but in terms of fracturing electoral power on the right
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I think that there's I think it would be dangerous for them. Yeah, and and Roger realizes that
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Soros and the globalists don't fund third parties because they don't work
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They might be a one-issue, you know deal to stop fracking or this or that
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So they'll fund it just to give it legitimacy to shut off our energy supplies like the Green Party
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But when you pull back from this, it's taking over parties you want to do
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It's Soros and the globalists have taken over the Democrats that the communist Chinese are taking them over
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They're putting in their DA's they're putting in their attorney generals. It's a nightmare
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We need as American people to control at least one party. We almost got there with Trump. I agree
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That's why they fear him so much. He wanted a landslide. They're absolutely right. We do not need this third party
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That is a nuclear option down the road, you know just for him to run for president or something if he had to
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But he's not gonna be barred from that. He's gonna defeat this trial in the Senate and I really think that
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He should run for governor or senator or maybe he should run against Rubio
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I mean, I really think we need to get President Trump back in back in DC
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That is what we need to be the real leader
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I don't fucking understand why you think he has any interest in running against Marco Rubio
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I mean maybe for the the campaign he'd have fun with that. Sure. She doesn't want to be in the fucking Senate. Good. God. No
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Imagine imagine. Oh god, that'd be terrible. Yeah, what a nightmare that be
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He doesn't want to do like that would be so much work. Mm-hmm. It's not all about Trump. No, no
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You have to cooperate. There's a there's a minority whip who tells you what to do
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Yeah, you're on the phone all the time trying to get donations and shit. Imagine that. Yeah. Oh
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Can you imagine what kind of bills he would write?
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Cran yeah
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brutal absolutely brutal
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bill to
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Provide senators in Florida with free fast food. No, and it's so right. It's so right to be like no
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No, we need to maintain the two-party system because as long as both parties are awful
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they can keep passing the ball back and forth, you know, so that means that they can still be owned by
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Billionaires if any party governed effectively the other party would be destroyed, you know
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Like the Democrats already are like, whoa
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Well, I know we promised 2000 but let's do 1400 and you're like guys
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Really? Are we doing this? Mm-hmm. Okay, we'll see the Republicans in two years. Thanks, buddy. Good work. Good work you morons
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Yeah
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Stupid it's a bummer. Yep, but Trump will not be a senator. Absolutely not. Why would he run against DeSantis?
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If he runs for governor, there's no way the state remains in the Union the end if Trump is the governor of Florida
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He is the president of the United Florida moving Mar-a-Lago to Texas. Yeah, exactly there. We will take our stand
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I'm moving to the Alamo, Texas. Yeah, that's not the Alamo shit too close to the border
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so Roger is
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Weird because he doesn't want a third party like this Patriot Party is a bad idea
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But at the same time don't give any fucking money to the RNC. No, fuck them evil. Trump should be president of the world
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Look, I would not donate a penny to the Republican National Committee and I would urge those out there in the info Wars audience to
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Follow in suit there. There is no chance that money is being spent effectively. Mm-hmm. Okay
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amazing points, but please go back to
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What ruddy said about Trump could be really the president of the world?
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For nationalism for patriotism for populism for better trade deals. How would you be the president of the world for nationalism?
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Very weird very very weird
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As president of the world, no one can move. I think it's probably a politically
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I don't know
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counterproductive
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To say hey, we shouldn't have a third party. We got to take over the Republican Party
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But also don't give the Republican Party any money. No. No, let's make sure we don't support them
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But also we had to take them over. Yeah, we all got to give money to the right scam. Not the wrong way man
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Exactly. Yeah, so
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Alex it gets mad here. He's Roger takes off because he's he's just at his piece and
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Alex gets mad about Nancy Pelosi because she is not thrilled with there being members of the house who's murderers
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Seem to have hostile intentions
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It's murdering attentions
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Marjorie Greene
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Certainly has said some things that would make me feel unsafe in a work environment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
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She's not Nancy Pelosi is not happy about that and good for her because I don't think she should have to put up with that
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Right, right. Then you have the the Lauren Boebert's of the world also not making you feel super safe
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And so she in an interview said that the enemy is inside. Yeah
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You know Alex is not thrilled about that wrong not thrilled wrong Alex is pretty mad about that
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That's a pretty astounding clip of Pelosi saying that the they need more security because of Republican Congress people
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Hey lady
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It was your supporter went and shot Scalise and tried to kill 18 others you lying sack of garbage
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Burning hell Pelosi and by that I mean we're not judgment on you. I think God's sending you to hell
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That's what I mean by that
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okay, the thing that I think is interesting about that clip is it's one of a number of times Alex has to
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over-clarify stuff
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All right, so
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Everybody is getting caught for doing the thing. I told them to do I better be real safe
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I better better be real safe Nancy Pelosi. You're gonna burn it out and by that I mean
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I believe that God has it out for you and once you die your soul is gonna have trouble and in this circumstance
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I'm gonna point you to Romans 12 16 because nobody gets mad at the Bible
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Yeah, so Owen Schroyer has been sitting alongside
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He's theoretically hosting the show and Alex is co-hosting
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But Alex is just doing the everything sure sure and Owen has some ideas that he wants to introduce to the proceedings about how unpopular
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Joe Biden is mm-hmm. He has some primary evidence that I think is stupid
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But you know getting back to the Biden issue here Alex. I was looking at this today
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And I just have one little printout here. It doesn't really work for the printout, but I was looking at
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Google search trends and if the crew wants to do this they can do this I was looking at Google search trends
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Biden as a Google search trend was almost
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Non-existent in the year 2020 almost non-existent Trump on the Google search trend is like number one
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Oh, but Biden had the most votes ever and then the other thing I noticed Alex
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two of the top three word associations with Biden on a search trend is this what we're doing pedophilia and
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dementia
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So the world under why to this guy is and and guys by the way lay that paper back down
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I know they consume in more lay it back down where you had it
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They should just do this because it doesn't really look good on the printout the
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The things I don't care that you but I mean still zoom in on it
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No, they can do it. They can zoom in that camera's got like five times more zoom
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Just zoom in on that guys because this is huge. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, this is huge huge
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Yeah, Google Trends Trump put out an online poll where he
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98% of people said they want him to be president. I don't understand how Biden won. Yeah, it's impossible. It's impossible
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98% of Americans want Trump to be president. That's the only polls that I listen to this
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Yeah, this is this is an instance of taking something that on its on the surface
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Appears to be making an argument that Trump is far more popular than Biden
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Yeah, but also has no relevance not to the larger issue that they're talking about. Nope. This is very dumb
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Yeah, so we got some guests coming up after Roger. Yeah, we got a couple of big big hitters
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But I want to let listeners also know Stuart Rhodes founder row keepers will be joining us the last 30 minutes the next hour
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We have another one of the boogaloo leaders
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Joining us to talk about what really happened at the Capitol
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You know, I have to say that the boogaloo guy we had on your state
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It's some cheap shot saying, you know that I might be in the CIA or a fed, but I get from his perspective
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I'm saying that to him, but only because you can't swing a stick in any of these groups and not hit a Fed
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I mean look at the Enrique Tarrio thing coming out. He's been a federal informant for many many years
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Is he a bad guy? No, no, I can what but and that just goes with the territory ladies and gentlemen
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What it's the same thing with the boogaloo is the same thing with any of this Wow, that's weird
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he is if he is a fat informant a
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Literal demon servant. Uh-huh. I like that guy. Hey, he's a good guy
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Look, I don't I don't know what Tarrio was up to like. I don't know now me
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I haven't I still haven't seen concrete evidence that he was informing on the Proud Boys still don't care either
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I'm Alex's perspective. He has to think that he was and that's the way that Alex is presenting this
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Yeah, it makes no sense to be like, yeah, this guy was a snitch
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He was infiltrating groups in order to make them look bad. Maybe even was instrumental in planning false flags
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Demon servant good, dude
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That makes no sense no also is
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Jarring to hear Alex be like look I talked to this boogaloo guy
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He said I was a fucking inside dude, like I was false controlled opposition. You know what? Hey, I understand
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I'm saying the same thing about him and hey, maybe he's cool. Yeah, you guys are doing great work together
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You guys are doing great work together. What man? That's some that's some
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Softened really fast. Yeah on this whole thing
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Yeah, the boogaloo boys were supposed to be his ticket out of this and now he's like like these guys. Oh
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We're all yeah
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we're all in trouble and I think one of the issues is sort of distorted views of what unity is possible or is
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Pursuable right and Owen Schroyer seems to be really on the unity kick right now
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That seems to be his big project
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Mm-hmm. He's talking about like reaching out to Black Lives Matter and and like and folks on the left so certain
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I saw I heard him screaming fuck BLM. Oh, yeah, and antifa
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I'm just positive that there was a flag involved. They burned it. I think they burned a flag
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Oh, yeah, and now they're gonna you want to reach out? Okay good and Alex is kind of like yeah
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Shit, I'm supposed to be above partisan politics
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That was to be my whole thing. What happened? I mean, I want unity. I don't want to fight with the average Democrat
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We need a populist movement that is for common sense in this country all team
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We're bringing that up because we get so part of described them especially under the last few years with Trump that that's something that actually
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Energize the worst elements of the Soros left to kind of take over the populist
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Liberals and who are who are on average not bad people and I think could be reached out to what do you think?
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I think that the reality of what Alex is talking about is I miss when
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Some people on the left were tricked by my opposition to the Iraq war
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I miss back when I could yell about George Bush and I could be deemed not an
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Incredibly insane extreme right-wing zealot. Yeah, there was a time there where I wasn't in the pocket of somebody whose mood
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I was looking I miss having the facade of
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Rationality because I was to the right of George W Bush. Yep
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Yeah, this is this is silly yeah, I will I will accept it a
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unity from these people when I they apologize publicly and make amends for it and
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Correct their mistakes. Yeah, then we can be unified again until then go fuck yourselves. So speaking of unity
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Owen
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Believes that he sees opportunity in the GameStop and Robin Hood
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situation in order to bring people into the fold this disillusionment right with the perceived fairness of
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the stock market is something that he believes that they can use to bring people into the ranks of the
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Info wars universe and and I believe that that is false unity
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I believe that's you know
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The the kind of thing that you see constantly with anything that galvanizes people particularly online
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You'll see an attempt at infiltration of it by the right-wing
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Demagogue totally and I can see a bit of Owen
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Seeing an opportunity there. Although I don't think
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That it's gonna be effective and I also don't think it's gonna be something that's gonna be even discussed on info whores
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In within a week. Yeah, I would agree with so I don't care to talk about it too much
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because it's not really a big issue and it also is something that I
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Just see it as being like this might be a wedge. This might be something we can use and oh and just doesn't have the chops
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So we get to the the next book boogaloo boy. Mm-hmm who comes in he's guy named Magnus Panvidya
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He's a guy fine. Yeah
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he is the boogaloo boy who was recently interviewed on the Jimmy Dore show and it seems to be somebody who's making the
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Rounds a bit in terms of like being someone who people will interview sure and I can understand
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Why because he doesn't sound crazy
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which is
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I mean a plus
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For a public face
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If I was going to be the public face of a group whose main goal was a second Civil War
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Mm-hmm. It would be wise to be like, hey, come on. I'm a good dude. I'm smart. I'm
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Conversational you guys can I like all sorts of people. Yeah, I seem rational as shit. Yeah, and
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He has a different approach
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Sort of a good cop bad cop kind of thing with Mike Dunn where Mike Dunn when he was on the day before
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Was kind of being a brusque Alex. You're kind of a shitbag. Yeah
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Next hey, Alex, we're the ones who are doing the shit that you pretend you do
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Yeah, now that Alex has taken that lashing and also now has softened so much
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Yeah, now comes the balm the sound sure to make those those wounds feel better
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Magnus give us your view on what the boogaloo's really are and what you guys just did and what just unfolded
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activate the boogaloo's
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Uh-huh. Yeah, we're just kind of a libertarian
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Anarchist coalition kind of a militia more of a movement
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We started off in the lockdowns
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Then we expanded throughout the whole George George Floyd and all the BLM events and look
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You just continue to be operating on the ground is kind of a more
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Unifying not right or left armed movement. Fuck you
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Well, I kind of like that actually I want to get the left involved in liberals deprogramming and into owning guns of self-defense
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This isn't the way
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no, no, no, I
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Think that you already see a contradiction between and what Mike Dunn was saying and what Magnus is saying
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He's saying we got started in the lockdown. Yeah, this is this grew out of
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Absolutely with jokes about a second Civil War
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I am NOT going to be told lies about your own history by a fucking accountant. That's what this dude sounds like
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He sounds like a fucking accountant Dan
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You're just saying that cuz the release the boogaloo is a real dorky joke to start off
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Yeah
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So Alex, you know
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He's really making
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Detente here sure and in a lot of ways he talks about he's talking about how like I had this bad feeling about Mike Dunn
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But I was wrong
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Well, I had Mike on yesterday and I got to say I thought he was probably a fed or some every law center
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I didn't approve of that
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I just a lot of these groups get led by those but I I didn't get that sense actually having him on I got the
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sense he really believes in what he's doing and maybe I've been I'm not saying boogaloo's are perfect as any big organization can get
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Infiltrated but that maybe you maybe you guys overall do have a good goal. My concern is are you guys acceleration is do you want a
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revolution I
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Mean we we have you not only that a revolution is inevitable. But yes, we want a revolution
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It just depends on what form that takes we want it to be the most peaceful
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People's revolution is humanly possible, but we're also not ignorant to the idea that the establishment's gonna go after that
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They're gonna try to destroy it and they'll probably go on the offensive against us. So I just think that he's steamrolling Alex
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Alex is just letting this guy
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have a have a very friendly platform to
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present this exactly how he wants to and it's it is
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unacceptable
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dissembling to be like we want a peaceful revolution but but no
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No
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That sentence ends with a period now if you want to continue that thought and say we want a peaceful revolution
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Period we believe that there is going to be resistance to that. We will fight that
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Peacefully, yeah, then that's cool. Yeah, there's there's two kinds of
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approaches that I see being
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Possible when you have something like this group that is really interested in
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Gun concerns and what have you second amendment stuff? Yeah, you could have somebody who's like, okay
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I disagree with open carry restrictions. So we're gonna get people together and we're gonna have an open carry March right, right
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There's two things that can do two approaches
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you can take one is that we expect we're gonna get arrested and then that arrest we will accept and we will use that to
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try and
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Change laws right change public opinion by virtue of our arrest seeming unfair to most people
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Or you could take the approach of we're gonna do this and we're gonna threaten people with these cut
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That would be the way to do it. And if people try and arrest us someone might get shot
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Yeah, like I think the first
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Might be productive right? The first one is something that even if I disagree with your position on the open carry laws
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I don't see a problem with someone doing a demonstration and a protest like that. Yeah when it comes to like
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Someone might get shot. That's that's when we're we're in dangerous territory. I mean, you know like
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They're they're bullshit about unity and all that stuff
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I I think immediately to of Fred Hampton like Fred Hampton
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Was a person who went into these Second Amendment groups these fucking militia groups and was like hey
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This is a class struggle. This is about us and convinced them and they joined him
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Mm-hmm, and then they acted peacefully and that's why Fred Hampton was murdered
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Because it was them moving to the left. Mm-hmm. If it's the other way around
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Yeah, we're in trouble there. So Magnus believes and expresses that
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Hey, the man is trying to get everyone to fight with each other, right?
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Sure. Sure
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Alex is like, yeah, okay, cool. Cool. Cool. Cool
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But antifa they hate the cops, right? What about you guys? Okay
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He does not get the answer. He wants I imagine so the
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Establishment right now is trying to get everyone to fight and kill each other instead of coming together against them
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They want all of these groups. They want antifa. They want three percenters
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They want all of these groups to think the other side is the most evil thing in the world and it's you know
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Secretly attempting to destroy them so they can laugh all the way to the bank while we fight and kill each other
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Huh, and that's what we don't want. Well, there's no doubt that's going on
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But I mean by you if it says the local police of the enemy. I mean, do you think that?
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At this point. I find it hard to believe that the local police aren't the enemy like when when you look at gun confiscation
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A lot of local police are just going along with that and not saying anything when you look at
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Lockdowns when you look at arresting people over pot when you look at
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Busting protests whether they be right-wing or left-wing protests very aggressively and laughing about it
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I've you know, obviously I'm not saying that officer friendly in a small town
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That's never done anything wrong is some horrible individual
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But when you look at the institution of policing across the entire country, they've forsaken liberty in all directions
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See what's interesting here is that Magnus is coming in with a complex thought
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Yeah
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That Alex can't really deal with well
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He started with people are trying to divide the left and right and saying both sides are the most evil people on the planet
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So they can never communicate with each other and while they're doing that they're laughing all the way to the bank
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Right that reminds you of anyone did one thick-necked individual comes to mind
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The exact person that he's talking to has spent all of his time talking about how antifa are
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Meth-head demon spawn. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, the leaving that aside like yeah, I
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Don't agree and I'm not gonna side with
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Magnus but issues with
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Policing are issues with police
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absolutely, and Alex can try and deny that kind of stuff as much as he wants but you know
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Magnus has a has a more interesting perspective on on
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The police then Alex I I would counsel very hard to remember this motherfucker is lying
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Yeah, he is. He's he's saying he's making well points. He's making good points
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Maybe in the service of lies, maybe not lying because I do believe that he does have problems with police sure
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It's disingenuous. Yeah, that's more I think
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Lying about what his his his intentions. Yeah. Yeah. No, this is this is absolutely a fucking a
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Bullshit way of being like see I listen to the problems on the left and we're gonna pay attention to them when they join us
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we're gonna team up and solve those problems and
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I don't know Dan. Have we seen what happens when?
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Let's say right-wing grifters find something no longer useful a toss-it-aside
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Yeah, I would suggest that if you were thinking about
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Them having good points maybe remember what they do whenever you're no longer useful
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Yeah
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And I mean not for nothing in the wake of this dude being on Jimmy doors show
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Some people did look through his Twitter and found him supporting Kyle Rittenhouse. Sure
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It's like I don't know man. No, I don't know. Nah, it's unity. Yeah, we're all about unity
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I don't know about this
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So for Alex though, the question comes back to pretty constantly as it did with Mike. Who are you targeting?
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I want to ask you about in a revolution and what your goals would be of that revolution or that new declaration of independence
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And my concern is I never see people protesting big tech or I mean Apple runs
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No factories in China, and I'm not saying Apple
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I don't want that but but but I mean if Uyghurs bombed Apple, they would have a real argument Apple runs the main slave camps
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So if Uyghurs attacked Apple, they would have a legitimate argument at the UN Hague that we're under attack
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We were attacking who's attacking us. I'm not saying do that. I'm just saying all the time
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I heard the local police that sounds like a communist takeover of local government. I'm not saying you're doing that
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That's what I'm concerned about. Stay right there, sir. We'll come right back to you
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No time for him to respond to that diatribe. Nope
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and again, it just comes down to Alex like his his his two issues seem to be like
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This isn't being directed by me and you're not targeting the people that I want you to target. Yeah. Yeah
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Yeah, my biggest issue
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Is why isn't everybody doing what I say? Yeah, they can be as
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Explicitly anti globalist like Mike Dunn was very clearly like I am against these global
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global ists
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And it doesn't matter because Alex doesn't see them blowing up
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My stuff yeah, can you imagine that's what Trump in the Senate would be like, he's like why isn't everybody doing what I want to do
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Mm-hmm. That's the whole thing. What's a quorum? I am a narcissist. I can't spell quorum
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Yeah, so again announced quorum quokka. Yeah, Alex
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You know, he his problem seems to be that like they have a revolution in mind
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Revolution is probably good. You should do it. Yeah, but it's not my
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Revolution and kind of as a problem. Yeah, and then he makes an insane analogy. We had
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Mr. Dunn on yesterday and I really thought about it after the interview. I thought I don't think that guy's a fed
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I think he's really pissed off about what's happening in the world and trying to unify everybody
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around
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One message and if they can successfully do that, that'd be great. I'm just really concerned about
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The goals of a revolution and and and who leads it. I mean, it'd be great if we had a bunch of state governors
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And respected generals and respected lawyers and the Confederacy you're literally describing the Confederacy formed a new Declaration of Independence
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That's 100% the Confederacy over. It's what are we doing over? It's illegitimate the great resets illegal
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And so we you know reform our new Union and we have that right. I just see what happened at the Capitol
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Which the Boogaloo's bragged about being part of people can try to walk that back whatever it was idiocy
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I wouldn't call it an assault. I would call it a a pissing contest. I would call it me like a
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Yeah, it was a little bit more intense than kind of that's what you call it
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Other than them killing four citizens a cop have an heart attack Wow more intense
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Than what you see in movies like Animal House
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I mean, you know Animal House pranks are now like terrorism walking off of lecterns one cop got squashed in the door
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There was some nasty to some fights. It was wrong, but not a new Pearl Harbor. So so so Magnus see
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What you don't understand Jordan your mouth is open as if in surprise
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But what you don't understand is that the storming of the Capitol was basically like, you know
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How like in an old TV show, you know, like a panty raid sure. It's
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Prank, so so what Alex also is quite inappropriate in hindsight
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Is that the Patriots jumped the general Lee over the Capitol building? Mm-hmm. That's what we're describing here. Yeah
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Yeah, I mean basically it's like teepeeing
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Yeah, a lot of cops die when teepeeing. Yeah, basically
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The the right-winger is just egged
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Hey, what are you gonna do? We were throwing a little prank. Come on
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Basically, they waited until the Capitol passed out and then they put the capital's hand in some warm water Wow Wow
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Just while they waited until the capital passed out and then they put shaving cream on its hand and then tickled the capital with a
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Feather I just don't know what to do when someone would try and say that
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Like I just there's what just I want to get a white glove and challenge him to a duel
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I don't know what to do about that. Yeah, I would say that if this is just the like slightly above frat pranks
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Why are you talking about it so much? Oh, that's a good point
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Also, I don't remember
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Spending days and days trying to scapegoat a frat prank
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Anyway, Alex has seen the interview with Jimmy Dore that this guy did and he loves it
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And even before I even went on Jimmy Dore the only podcast I could even get on was a podcast called Liberty Lockdown
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Which was a small decentralized podcast that they didn't have the ability to censor. Yeah, let's talk about that
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That was a great interview you did with Jimmy Dore
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yeah, and I'm so happy for him to have me come on because what has given me the ability to do is to break through all
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the mainstream media lies about us because there's
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extremist experts and journalists that have covered us all year long and have buck or a heels of video and text evidence showing what
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our movements about and it doesn't line up with what the mainstream media has all and they'll they'll directly quote these
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Extremist experts that work for DC and quote them on certain parts, but when those same extremist experts say no, we're not white supremacists
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Yes, we work with BLM
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They'll take those parts of their report and hide it and run us all rough shot across the media and I feel the same
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Thing's been done to Antifa. I still feel the same thing's been done to three percenters
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I feel like the same thing's been done to BLM. Fuck you. Yeah
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Fuck you. Yeah
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Now if the criticism is that the mainstream media lacks some sort of nuance in reporting on groups
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Particularly like the bugs. Mmm. Yeah, sure fine. Great
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I
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Don't know if you've broken through that by being on Jimmy doors. I would say no. No, I would argue
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No, but then you know, this is gonna wind up with this dumbass being all over the place
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I imagine a bunch of easily taken advantage of morons like Jimmy door. Yeah, and maybe maybe the
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Sort of high point of it will be him going on Tucker. Yeah, yeah
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But I don't I don't know if I don't know if he has the escape trajectory to get out of that bubble very much
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But that is interesting. I mean like it does it does indicate like the kind of places that he has access to
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Includes infowars. Yeah, Jimmy door. Yeah
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Yeah, that should that should put pause in a lot of people's minds. It's not a good sign. No, no
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Also, hey, buddy
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that most white supremacists would deny it
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Yeah, and the the issue comes down to the the group is care
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the character of the group itself is not white supremacist and a lot of I mean
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Obviously there probably are a fair number of white supremacists who fall under the boogaloo
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Oh, yeah category and that is fair enough
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But the group itself is not white nationalist white
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Supremacist in character right and that is something that's the nuance that is kind of difficult for people who aren't
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Engaged in these things to really to really
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Deliney and and that's where clunky conversations come in and you say like the white supremacist boogaloo group and then you
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kind of look
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Like you don't know what you're talking about
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It's difficult even for me to fully understand where exactly a lot of the lines are
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so Alex tries to have this conversation that is
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far nicer than the one with Mike and
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It's weird because the territory that Magnus is getting into should be really hostile stuff for Alex
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Mm-hmm, like Magnus is
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Defending antifa sure to Alex Jones indeed, and that's weird. This is a huge problem
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Well, you believe in free speech antifa doesn't it's funded by Soros on record
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I mean
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That's the thing is like yeah that there might be infiltrated parts of it but you but that's the same for everything
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That's something you talked about and like when I go back to like your early works about the WTO riots and how the police
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Infiltrated the WTO riots to cause chaos and false flag
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some of those same people that were at those WTO riots in Seattle are the same people that I talked to today that are part of
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Antifa and they get really disillusioned when they hear things about like all of antifa's Soros funded a lot of them talk
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Just like you they hate the Fed. They hate global, you know corporations
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They stand for free speech
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But Fox News or something will put the camera on one guy that has a stupid opinion and be like
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Oh, they speak for all of antifa when it's when it's a global
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I will invite any of those antiphon that'll actually talk to us. I'd love to actually hear that if that exists
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This is a problem for Alex because he has contracts
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No one is supposed to remember the things I say
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Well, that's a problem
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But also if Alex actually believed that the quote-unquote Soros
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Antifa contracts the Harrison Smith found on 4chan were real right this argument should not be compelling to him
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Yeah, this argument should be like no do you understand?
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I have contracts between Alexander Soros
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Excuse George Soros and their foundations and antifa in order to try and start martial law in America
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You sir, don't know you're being tricked by the people on the ground who are who are old-time commies
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Yeah
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That's that's how you should be behaving
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He shouldn't be he shouldn't be persuadable by stuff like this if anything that he believes means anything
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Listen up Magnus Ver Magnusson or whatever your name is. Let me tell you this right now
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Everyone in antifa had to sign a contract. I've got the document for you right here
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Go ahead and read through that. Oh, no, I'm an idiot aren't I? Oh, no that guy remembered something
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I said, I think that Alex probably doesn't bring that stuff up because Magnus would laugh in his face
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I don't think that it would be embarrassing. That's why Alex's narratives fall apart
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Yeah, like because they're built on nothing. Yeah, Alex himself doesn't believe them and
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When presented with somebody who probably isn't gonna play along. This is what I keep coming into. Is that like Alex?
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should not
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Engage with zealots. Yeah, he's a pretend zealot
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Yes, and he's going to get found out when you go up against a real one
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Yeah
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The end and that's why he can't bring out his real
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Narratives that uses all the time on his show because they'd be punctured so fast
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He's at an instant disadvantage and somehow he still believes when he has these people on that. He's like nah, I got him
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I can take care of it. Well stupid
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so anyway, the great reset is the problem or something sure there needs to be a revolution probably and Magnus wants Alex to
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Work with Antifa, of course
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We should be able to unify everybody against the great reset is literally a corporate takeover to consolidate power under the name of environmentalism
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To literally bankrupt everyone and and have a universal income so they can dictate the terms of our surrender
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We have got to get everybody mobilized against the great reset. What is your view Magnus about the great reset? Oh, yeah
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And I agree and it's funny enough because I had this conversation with an Antifa member. They agree, too
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It's not that they're against the idea of like oh, let's reset the system everywhere
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But they are perfectly aware of the people that are pushing that idea of how all these multinational billion-dollar banks and everything
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It's not a great. Yeah, I love a reset exactly. We need a reset. We need a reset exactly
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I'm gonna hold you over but we need a reset but it's not this reset. This is a horrible reset. Sorry go ahead
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there's a difference between a reset that involves rethinking our approach to climate issues rethinking our
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approach to what
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people need to live
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That kind of thing and a reset that involves a civil war. Yeah
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Yeah, those are very different and if you talk about them being like, oh well
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Hey, these people are interested in a revolution just like us
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You're muddying the waters in a way that is incredibly unfair
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Yeah
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and that is like when you engage in that kind of a disingenuous sleight of hand it leads me to
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Suspect that maybe a lot of the stuff that you're saying is not sincere
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Yeah, not genuine and that's one of the problems that I run into with Magnus and in this next clip
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I think we really get to see this pretty clearly
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Actually, I was just on the phone with the woman that was at the WTO riots
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And she said she would would be willing to come on and talk to you
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So if you want to talk to an Antifa member, you can talk to an Antifa member, please
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And definitely like obviously the
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Dictionary definition of acceleration nascent ism might be correct
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But what everyone is calling us if by if by the criteria that you think everything is
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Fundamentally flawed and it will not change without radical change then literally everyone is accelerationist
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Joe Biden is an accelerationist AOC is an accelerationist Rand Paul's an accelerationist
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Like if you look at the world through that view everyone acknowledges that things are totally
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Destroyed across the board when it comes to civil liberties, when it comes to our economics, everything
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Exactly. So like a lot of people say like, oh you want a revolution? You're an accelerationist
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I'm like everyone wants a revolution right now. Everyone's talking about it. It trends on Twitter constantly. So this is
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another
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Manipulative sleight of hand. Oh, yeah, the accelerationism that people are talking about when they talk about fringe right-wing groups and militias
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And and and that type is an accelerationism towards shooting violence
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it's an accelerationism that's rooted in heightening tensions and highly tense situations and
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protests that have the potential to spin out of hand and prove to be an inciting event in a
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conflict between a
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Supposed
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Sides of a civil war we see the water boiling and we want to push it over the edge. That's the
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accelerationism that he's trying to make the same as
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Accelerationism where you have people who are saying climate change is a problem that cannot be ignored any longer. Yep
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we need to
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elect leaders who are willing to
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Explore ideas about regulation. Yes. Okay. It's not the same
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Recognizing that a system is flawed in many ways and we're past the point possibly even past the point where we can
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totally fix all of the issues sure is not the same as thinking everything is fucked and we should hope for a civil war because
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It's gonna happen eventually. So why not do it now? I
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That's dishonest
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100% I I mean, yeah, I I understand this guy and you're you're 100% right good cop bad cop
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Bullshit with these two but God I prefer the asshole from the other day
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It's funnier cuz he and also he's just gonna be like, yeah, fuck. Yeah, let's blow it up
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You know, like I don't like this lying piece of shit coming at me with his accountant
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But I think that Mike was still lying too. Oh, he was still trying to put on a
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Shiny or facade Oh 100 to what he actually is believing and promoting
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but yeah, this this is
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Just intrinsically on like unfair. Yeah. Yeah, like what he's what he's presenting and it's it's intentional
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Because he kind of understands that there's a lot of Alex's audience. That's probably poachable
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No, and it's hard to it's like bring up AOC and all I think of is
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Ted Cruz being like yeah agree and AOC being like hey you tried to murder me go fuck yourself
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Well, guess what? I get it
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You can bring up how antifa and BLM are also against the Fed or whatever it is you want
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But you tried to murder all of us. So go fuck yourself
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well, but the and the other problem too is that I do I I do think that there probably are some
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accelerationist types on the left sure you can rationalize I'm sure way to that like if you take the issue of like
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Climate change you can find eco-fascists. You can find eco-terrorists. Yeah
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that's not the mainstream of
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And and you know
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I would say that probably the boogaloo boys are a little bit outside of the strict mainstream of the right
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But they're closer than eco-terrorists are to the mainstream of the left. Yes, I would agree a great deal and and and comparing
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You know, I don't know. I don't know if he would do this but
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Comparing like I don't know
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gun wielding
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Accelerationists to protests to Greta Thunberg. I think it's a
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Little bit different. Yeah a little bit different. I remember Greta
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bringing in her AR to the
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UN I remember that didn't she do that when she gave that speech? Yeah, I recall so Magnus wants peaceful
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options sure now again
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Did you leave a public representative of a group that is entirely based around the fantasy of a second Civil War?
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to the point where
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This listener pointed this out to me and I knew this but I failed to bring it up on our last episode
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You know, even the wearing Hawaiian shirts is about Civil War
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It's they had to get around social media bands. And so they had big luau instead of boogaloo. Yep
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Like everything is about every day. Yeah, but he wants peaceful options
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Okay
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And I think that he is one Alex over to an embarrassing extent and we need to keep trying to push peaceful options
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We need to keep finding cracks in the armor to be peaceful
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But they continue to shut those avenues down one after another another if they keep doing that and that was my warning to them
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In that speech if they keep denying people
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Redress keep denying people the ability to change things
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Then you're going to have civil conflict and it's going to be really bad for them for us and for everyone involved
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Come back on cuz I'm really impressed and I'm glad that you actually came on
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I'd love to have you on with the antifa lady
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We want to have them on we want to actually reach out to these folks as I understand that we can all drink the mainstream
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Media kool-aid at a certain point need to actually hear what these groups actually stand for
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You're not drinking the mainstream media kool-aid. It's your kool-aid. Yeah
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Magnus has got Alex so on the ropes that he's willing to work with antifa. Yeah
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Doesn't China run antifa? It's just it's hard not to see that like oh well
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You're just nicer to Alex, you know, like he of course he agrees with all of this shit
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Theoretically in his mind, you know, but this guy's being nicer than Mike Dunn. So well
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Yeah, you guys might have a good point. You're being real deferential and I don't see you as a physical threat
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So I think we're good to go who knows like how this would have gone if Magnus was the first one
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Yeah, talk to Alex
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But I I don't think that this interview can be seen outside of the context of the prior one
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Yeah
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That went very badly for a hundred percent and it's not like I mean you'd have to be delusional to think that Mike
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And Magnus don't know each other. Yeah
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The night between these two interviews about Alex get him believe you call them a controlled opposition to his face. What a moron
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Okay. Now I'm gonna go on and tell him that antifa is cool
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I saw I saw one interview he did with Steve pachannik
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All you got to do is say that he's a good dude who's super smart and then don't believe anything
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yeah, this is embarrassing and
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Alex is just stupid. Yeah, so bad. So speaking of
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a dangerous bad
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Interviews now Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers comes in great
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good work Alex is not into this idea that some of them got arrested and
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It's just kind of like I don't buy it
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shifting gears Stuart Rhodes is a
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Retired constitutional lawyer award-winning researcher you name it. What awards do army veteran patriot founder of Oath Keepers?
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It's always about non-violent defensive protection of America
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Since we've seen the big news three Oath Keepers
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Arrested plotted to kill members of Congress. They do a very good job. They're at the Capitol just running around
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Whoa, I don't buy any of that. They all went woo. Woo. Woo. They were like Jeffrey Osborn
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Can you whoa, whoa, whoa, you know that song it is it's kind of astonishing
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do you remember how quickly don't talk about Jeffrey people hand wave a
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literal violent coup yeah, it's
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astonishing
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Well, it's so important for people like Alex and people on the right to do that because it's so indicative of
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The sort of danger that they present to a civil insane society. Someone could say that the enemy is with it
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It's very important that the hand waving happens. I just don't understand why people who
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Are on the other side don't keep stressing this
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In in in a really aggressive way cowardice money
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I think I think maybe but I think also just kind of like we all are just exhausted
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That's part of just fucking tired this goddamn
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Pandemic and then these guys took over the country and all I want to do is go to bed
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Yeah, a lot of the time whenever I'm you know, getting an episode ready Alex will say something. I'm like
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Oh, yeah, yeah, and then I have to like deal with it
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Yeah, and I think that sometimes in life you run into walls like that and you just don't want to deal with it
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Mm-hmm
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I think that maybe some people don't want to deal with that and hand waving is the good way to do it
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I mean when you but for Alex, it's it's an existential threat. Yes 100%
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Recognizing that his worldview implies this yeah is is really dangerous. This is the logical conclusion of what you say
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Mm-hmm the end this is not some like infiltration. This is not some like oops
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We were meaning to do this and then this happened
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This is what the end goal was and you did it stupid and you lost. Mm-hmm the end
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Unlike Jeffrey Osborne who won I was doing so hard
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I'm not so hard. I was just zeroed in on not talking about that in terms of awards
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Stuart Rhodes, I don't know what the case is here
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He when he was at Yale
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He apparently won an award for a paper on enemy combatant status that he wrote
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I was able to find the paper and it's long
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And I didn't read all of it, but I read some of it and I was like, yeah, this seems like a college paper
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yeah, and
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It would have been I think 2004
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and conveniently
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Yale
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Their records online go back to 2005. Oh
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So weird. Yeah, so I was able to find the recipients list of these winners until 2005
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That's not to say that Stewart didn't win it. I just know I'd sure sure sure. Yeah, he could have
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It reminds me of Mumford the movie Mumford. Oh
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, I fakes being a
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Psychologist. Yeah conveniently everybody who could verify his time in college died. So weird. Yeah, so weird
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Yeah, we've we've met some people like that in the past
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so
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Stewart is kind of like hey
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We're in the situation that our founding fathers were in and so what we need to do is set up autonomous cities
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I think okay, make sure you do what the founders did they came together. They were united the town and county level
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for mutual defense and also for
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Grassroots politics they separated themselves from an illegitimate regime even before they declared independence, you know
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They didn't listen to the real governors
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They they smuggled and went around all the edicts of the king and they wore a homespun clothing
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Stop buying textiles from England. They
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That's like moonshine. All of this is pure Americana. I agree everybody. They're trying to drive us underground
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Let's jump in that briar patch. Let's just let's just stop supporting them in any way
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Alex is currently in a luxury resort in Utah. He has an iPhone in his pocket
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This is this is ridiculous God. Yeah, I hate these people so much
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It's it's a bit of a mess, but not as much of a mess as Alex's narrative about January 6th
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Yes, this is a huge problem for him because as we've seen he's had to gradually expand the narrative
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based on
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New people who get arrested. Yeah, we're on our seventh or eighth iteration of this narrative
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Yeah, and it's falling the fuck apart. Yeah, and one of the reasons for that is
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The people that he's tried to blame the boogaloo boys stood up to him
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Oh, and he got embarrassed by two of them in two days
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Yeah, he can't throw the oath keepers under the bus. He's too connected to them. Stuart Rhodes is his good buddy
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Yep, they're they're tight. He can't do it
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The proud boys. He also probably can't throw them under the bus completely. Joe Biggs was like the second-in-command
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He used to work at Infowars, Enrique Tarrio. Yeah, they were independent contractors. He never met him
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He doesn't get into that kind of stuff that those people get in
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Enrique Tarrio had been on the show before he spoke at Alex's CPAC event. You can't prove any of this
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Alex could be like I was in bed drunk
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He probably could. I don't remember Tarrio. I don't remember anything from that night
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It's too difficult for him. And so now he has to kind of like do this. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. Stuart Rhodes founder of the Oath Keepers is here with us and he just learned about this in the last 12 hours or so. Self-styled militia members in three states begin planning in November for recruits, weapons ahead of capital, and
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breach US siege. Well, they sure didn't bring the weapons and they sure didn't do all the things they supposedly were planning to do. But it was the Q phenomenon behind the scenes that oh secretly Trump's giving orders to storm DC and all this and then it would piggyback on us having peaceful demonstrations, calling for a Senate investigation that Ted Cruz was calling for. And then you get to demonize the entire Trump system with this badly coordinated few hundred people that wanted to storm the Capitol.
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Hell, you get a few Proud Boys, you get a few Boogaloos, you get a few Oath Keepers in the mix. Are they informants? Were they set up? They break in. Okay, four of them get killed. Cop has a heart attack, dies two days later. This is the new Pearl Harbor.
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So the narrative now is just so intensely complicated and shifted so far over the course of the last couple weeks that to imagine somebody continuing to go along with this is just embarrassing. Because Alex at every stage has said he's proven all of these things and then everything shifts.
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So now Q, the Q movement is the real villain. And there's a couple of people who I guess Alex will probably, I'm gonna guess soon he's gonna say Sheepdipped. He's gonna call these people Sheepdipped. There's gonna be a couple Sheepdipped people in each of these groups that were there as infiltrated provocateurs.
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And so all these groups are actually good, just they had a couple people who were bad apples in those groups who were actually globalist plants. This is too complicated.
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I guess he has too many Q followers that listen to his show, but if it were me I would just go hard on Q being controlled by the globalists the whole way. Turn all the Q people into globalists.
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No, that's kind of where he's at.
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Right, but I mean straight up clean break. Everything is their fault because they're the globalists.
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Sure. Well, that's interesting. I think it would be difficult to argue that all the people who believe in Q are aware of a globalist plot that they're a part of.
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Sure.
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And so he's saying that the Q is globalist intelligence and stuff like that.
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Right.
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But the people who fell for it and were in on it, or the followers, they're just good researchers who got taken down the wrong path.
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I know, but you can lump them in with all the people who use it. You know, most rank and file Democrats aren't evil people. They've just been caught up in this whole thing. You just rationalize the Q.
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Alex says that everyone on the left is a devil.
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Well, sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn't.
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Depends on his mood.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, I don't know. I strain to keep any kind of...
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Through line?
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Well, yeah, through line or belief that Alex even has a through line.
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Yeah, I would agree with that.
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I don't think he has a center on this narrative. It's just someone's to blame and it's not us. It's a fake group that's controlled by the globalists.
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That's why I'm saying you go with Q and then you go up against a Boogaloo boy and they're like,
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you're stupid and you're like, no, no, no, this is all Q shit, man. You are the stupid ones. You are being controlled by the globalists who run Q.
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I don't know. I think Alex realizes that the new generation is not going to put up with his bullshit.
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No, that doesn't seem like it.
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So, Stuart Rhodes is not like Alex in many ways. He's scarier.
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Terrifying.
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And he also is not somebody who throws people under the bus.
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That's true.
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Alex is willing to throw anybody under the bus immediately. When it's convenient, bus.
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Yeah, I imagine that military service will give you more loyalty to your comrades in arms than
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being a radio host.
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Yeah, so one of the people that was arrested, Storm in the Capital, one of the three Oathkeepers,
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Stuart Rhodes knows for a fact, is an Oathkeeper. And he won't deny that. And he also spent some
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time on this show promoting her crowdfunding.
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Yeah, I love that. I love it.
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Jessica Watkins does have a GoFundMe set up or not a GoFundMe. It's on rally pay,
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but a fundraiser for her. We do encourage people to go and defend the actual Oathkeeper member
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who was involved in that. So we always stand behind our people. So there you go.
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But again, you didn't coordinate. You weren't part of this.
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No, absolutely not.
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I had nothing to do with it. Now I am going to try and help fund the defense of somebody
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who is there because they're my people. That is a kind of loyalty that is foreign to Infowars.
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Completely. So wait, wait, wait. Are you saying that she did a thing that you personally think
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was a bad idea, but you're still going to defend her? But if you threw her under the bus, then
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maybe you wouldn't have to deal with it at all.
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Yeah, you could keep that money.
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Yeah, it'd be your money. Don't you want that money?
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So we are now in a situation that is exactly the same, 100% the same.
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Identical to the founders.
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Well, the colonies. In the colonies. We're basically in the colonies.
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Okay.
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Stuart, what do you expect them to do with Biden? He's deteriorating
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extremely quickly. I mean, he looks like an Alzheimer's patient now. I mean,
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they definitely cranked him up and he practiced that very short inaugural speech, which was okay.
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10 bags of blood.
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Other than that, he's like, what am I signing?
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Blah, blah, blah. I mean, he is like, what the hell's going on here?
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Well, like I was saying, he is a Chinese puppet. You should look at this as DC is now the green
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zone of an occupying army from communist China using their puppet. And that's why it's a direct
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parallel the founders faced. They were dealing with domestic puppets, the royal governors,
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who were doing the bidding of a foreign power that was king in parliament that the people had
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no control over and no representation in. And we're in the same exact position.
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Exact same position.
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Exact same position. Explain to me how they're in the exact same position.
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Stuart just did, man.
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I disagree strongly.
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Sure. Me too. So Stuart is, you know, he's not an accelerationist except he is.
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Pretty sure he said we're in the colonies and I'm pretty sure that what that required was a
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literal revolution.
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Yeah, but before that they had people writing pamphlets and stuff.
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Oh, so the Oath Keepers are very similar to Thomas Paine.
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One might, one were they to be Stuart Rhodes might say yes.
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Stuart, he's trying to have this like, you know, like, hey, it's not time for action or whatever
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yet, but he does give a little bit of a contradictory message here and it's upsetting.
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That shows their weakness because they can't even trust their own troops because they know
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that those troops come from us. And so what they do is try to purge the troops and kick
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out anybody who's a real American. They really have a skeleton force of no strong military
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in the United States that is controlled by them than to have a powerful military they
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can't control when they when they try to give orders to violate our rights. So watch for
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that. We're going in territory heading towards a sweet spot where we can't wait too much
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longer because then they'll have vetted and kicked out all the patriots out of the military.
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Confederates.
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They have not gotten there yet, but watch for that process to happen. As you get closer
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and closer to that point, you have to do something. That's where we're going.
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That's right. Let's talk about, both of you stay there, let's talk about the timeline
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of tyranny, what the Globals are going to do next, what we've got to do. I mean, folks,
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nobody's happy about this. A country has cancer. Again, they're trying to purge the
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military now. We told you that was coming next. And now it's here. We got to take the
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last three minutes of Stewart, put that on the front of this interview. That was
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where he let it out. Literally, DC is now the commonest Chinese green zone. We'll be
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right back.
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So you have Stewart saying that there's a sweet spot that is, you know, like where you
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have to do something before the military is done purging. Also the military has started
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purging.
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Well, that puts a clock on it.
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It does.
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It sure does, doesn't it Dan?
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This is the revolution QVC.
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We're not into acceleration. What we are saying is that it's going to happen shortly.
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Anybody, we got about 45, 50 minutes?
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Yeah, that's not good.
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Yeah.
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So the 28th wraps up and...
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Blackjack! Shit.
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Nope.
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You're so good.
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You're so good at this.
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29th, Alex is, like I said, on the road.
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Yeah.
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He's coming back for Utah.
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Travel day.
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30th, sorry, Alex and Stewart Rhodes are in studio and they're talking about this dumb
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documentary, talking about how they got us a seed and shit.
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Yeah.
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Very stupid.
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Yeah.
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Now we get to the 31st Sunday episode and Alex is basically describing how we're in
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Revelation.
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Okay.
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But it is said in the book of Revelation that John the Revelator in the Isle of Patmos
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marveled at the beast, looking forward through an interdimensional wormhole that God opened
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up.
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That part wasn't in the Bible.
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The Antichrist and the world government, what would be happening in the future.
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He marveled at the beast.
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World government cannot buy nor sell without a mark on the forehead of the hand.
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You must turn over your children to the state.
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You must destroy your very genetics.
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You must kill the earth.
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You must worship Satan or you will not be allowed to live.
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You'll not be allowed to have a job.
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Well, whether you believe John was the greatest science fiction writer ever 2000 years ago.
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He was not.
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Or whether you believe he was inspired by God.
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He was not.
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It's being manifested.
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It is not.
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It's being set up right now.
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So the old Chinese proverb says, may you live in interesting times.
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And we certainly are interesting times.
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And then you have the battle of Armageddon with the dragon.
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All the rest of it now unfolding.
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So get your popcorn out because you got front row seats to the big finale.
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Is it 10 years, 100 years out or 60 minutes away?
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All I know is it's satanic and it's moving quick.
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Wait, so it might be in an hour.
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The dragon might be here in an hour.
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Okay.
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Okay, so this is not fair.
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I've got a pitch for you.
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Actually, I've got a pitch for the devil or the great beast, if you will.
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Hold on, hold on.
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Let me, let me get into character.
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Okay, there you go.
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That was scary.
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You surprised me.
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She popped out of that portal.
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Okay.
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So you've got the book of revelations.
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You've got this whole like head or the hand on the mark of the beast, right?
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But you're the devil and you realize everyone has a phone.
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Hmm, so do you get around the entire book of revelations?
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If you just never attach it to somebody's hand or forehead, do you just win?
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Does he win if everybody has the mark of the beast in their pocket?
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Well, I mean, it would certainly seem to indicate that the prophecy was a little bit screwy.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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What about like, um, I don't know.
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Like there's so much that, uh, aren't in any of those prophecies.
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Like, uh, like, uh, custard.
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That's true.
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Well, I don't know.
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Maybe custard existed back then.
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What am I trying to think of?
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I have no idea.
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I don't know where custard came from at all.
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French fries?
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They did not have those.
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Pizza?
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That's true.
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They didn't even have France back then.
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I don't know what I'm trying to get at.
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They were called gall fries back then.
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There were, there, there were some, some things that were missing, uh, from the,
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in terms of it being a wormhole vision of the present.
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Uh, but yeah, I don't know.
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I just think it's unfair for Alex to be like, it could be a hundred years, could be an hour.
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Get your popcorn out.
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You might die before it starts, but you'll have the popcorn ready.
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The devil's here and it's happening and it's happening fast.
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Or in a hundred years.
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And who knows?
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So, uh, the big news is, uh, vaccine related.
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Yes.
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On Sunday.
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And it's that, uh, Australia has ended, uh, its COVID development program.
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So now here's the big announcement.
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A month ago, Australia suspends nationwide, their entire vaccine program, because it's
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makes people deathly ill, killed a bunch of people and they came up positive for HIV.
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Well, we put that on screen place for TV viewers.
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Now, now, ladies and gentlemen, last Tuesday seems like a hundred years ago,
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Merck, the largest pharma company in the world says we are ending our vaccine program.
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It does not work.
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We believe you cannot make a vaccine that works to cure the common cold.
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And that's what this is, except it's chimera with even more mutations.
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So it's even more impossible.
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Alex is a sort of editorializing on what these companies have said.
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He's adding a little bit there on his own.
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Yeah.
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I would say, I would say that wasn't a direct quotation.
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Yeah.
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The other problem too, is that these are all different vaccines.
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There is that.
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Like the one in Australia was developed by the university of Queensland and a biotech
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firm called CSL and the ones that Merck are different, the ones they were working on.
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And those are also different than the Pfizer and the Moderna ones.
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Nah, they're all fake.
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It's all fake vaccines.
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Alex is treating them like they're all the same thing.
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They're all the same thing.
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It's a syringe with some liquid in it, Dan.
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It's the same shit.
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It's very weird.
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Yeah.
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It's a weird perspective.
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It's kind of like he doesn't understand anything about them.
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Yeah.
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So I actually lied to you.
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That's not the news.
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That's the preface for the news.
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The big news has to do with Emmanuel Macron.
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Okay.
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French president has come out and said some things.
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Who came out yesterday, Macron, a top globalist.
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But he understands that this is such a crime.
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He'll be torn limb from limb.
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The riots are gigantic.
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All their scientists are coming out saying, this is insane.
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The top ones.
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As opposed to the other ones?
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The discoverer of HIV, who's a French scientist and saying, it's man-made in the lab.
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It's a power grab.
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I told you months ago, I talked to the head of a major biotech company that has real gene
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therapy that cures things like colon cancer.
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They also sell pillows.
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And he said, you're absolutely right.
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It's a giant total takeover.
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The vaccine will destroy and sterilize women, and it will kill your immune system or turn
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it way off the charts and give you cancer.
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But they need to want to come on the show.
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Oh, too bad.
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Yeah.
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For somebody with knowledge that could potentially save billions of people, it seems like he
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would want to get that information out there.
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Yeah.
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I guess he's now responsible for...
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I'm pretty sure he's killed us all.
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So French President Macron said that the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine appears to be, quote,
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quasi-ineffective in people older than 65, which is a claim that scientists have strongly
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rebutted.
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What about the top ones, though?
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I don't know what that means.
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Okay.
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Macron did not come out against the vaccine or vaccination, nor is he trying to save himself
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from being torn limb from limb.
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Also, this is not the same vaccine as the ones put out by Pfizer and Moderna, which
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are the ones that are currently available in the United States.
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The claims that Alex is making are absurd, and it's super convenient that this big time
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specialist with magical medical technology won't come on the show.
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But honestly, this is just dumb.
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One of the things that's the most dumb about this...
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Drum roll, please, Jordan.
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Okay.
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Good enough.
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The AstraZeneca vaccine that Macron is talking about isn't an mRNA vaccine.
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Well...
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But Alex doesn't know that.
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If you were a member of the InfoWars audience, you would think that all these vaccines that
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were getting developed were all the same thing, as if a ton of companies were just racing
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to finish the same recipe.
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But that's not the case.
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These are different approaches being taken with varying levels of success and setbacks.
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Alex doesn't understand the basics of the topics he's covering, and he doesn't care
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to, because his work is not meant to reflect reality.
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It's meant to push an agenda.
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Yeah.
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And this is just really sad, because all his ideas are about mRNA vaccines being different
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than vaccines.
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And that's why this is particularly evil.
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And Macron knows that.
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And that's why he's getting rid of this Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine that it turns out isn't
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an mRNA vaccine.
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But Alex doesn't know that.
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Macron claims that the vaccine that they were going to use is an mRNA vaccine.
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AstraZeneca is almost ineffective in over 65s.
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Alex doesn't know shit.
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He doesn't know anything.
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He's talking out of his ass.
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And so this is how arguments get made.
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So Australia, Merck, France does not work.
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Does not work.
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Does not work.
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Does not work.
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Does not work.
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Does not work.
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That's it.
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That's the level of shit he's bringing to the table.
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That's compelling.
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Yeah.
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That is compelling.
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I remember going to my first year.
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I didn't originally start out in literature.
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I originally started out in audio production.
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And I was there, and I was looking at the board, going through all this stuff.
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And I remember my teacher screaming at me, it works!
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It works!
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Yeah.
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It works!
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Yeah, I think that part of the game that's being played here is like, the audience is
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obviously humans.
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And they think that if someone is yelling this repeatedly, over and over again, so definitively.
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He believes it.
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He can't possibly be making this up.
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How could you be this confident and make something up at the same time?
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People can't do that.
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It's not possible, Dan.
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It's simply inconceivable.
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And unfortunately.
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Here we are.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has some staggering statistics about this vaccine that I would beg him to demonstrate.
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Guess who the vaccine's killing?
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Not just the famous baseball player.
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Hank Aaron.
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The vaccine killed him?
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Local news every day of 20-year-olds, 50-year-olds, 60-year-olds, 30-year-olds.
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Take it and die before they even leave the clinic.
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They collapse.
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And then have a convulsion and bye-bye an hour later.
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Bye-bye, Bluebird.
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But it gets even more insane.
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I mean, this is absolutely the biggest criminal power grab ever.
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They are reporting in hospitals and in nursing homes that up to 5% of the patients are dying
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within a week when they take the mRNA shot.
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Holy shit.
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5% fatality rate?
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Alex, you need to demonstrate this.
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That's an outrageous clinic.
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This is an arrestable offense.
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That is a legit, like, there should be a legal...
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I mean...
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That's insane.
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You could.
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I mean, you'd need to somehow demonstrate that, like, him saying that people believed
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it and it led to harm, but I don't think that that...
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Like, I don't know how you'd prove it, but I believe it.
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Yeah.
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Like, I believe that that causes harm.
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Absolutely.
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Without question.
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5% mortality rate?
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Without question.
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That's outrageous.
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That's fucked up.
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So fucked up.
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That's a made up number.
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That would be the number one story in history.
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Culmination of all of humanity's knowledge about infectious disease results in 5% of
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people dying immediately.
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Yeah, I don't think that you get to make claims like that willy nilly.
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And he is.
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Yeah, if you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you can't tell everybody that they're
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gonna die.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the vaccines are a bio weapon, apparently.
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And I would like to stress this important point that I've brought up that I don't think
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that Alex knows or cares that these vaccines are all different vaccines and some are not
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mRNA vaccines like he thinks.
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They're closing in to shut everybody down right now.
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We have to expose their behind this.
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We have to expose the criminal takeover plan and we have to get world leaders, starting
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with governors and starting with senators to come out and point this out and it's game
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over.
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Well, what do you think Merck knows?
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What do you think?
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Macron knows?
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What do you think the Australians know suspending their vaccine programs because it quote does
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not work and hurts people.
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Quote because it does work.
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Macron.
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It does work.
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Merck.
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It does work.
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Australia.
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It's a frickin bio weapon.
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The mRNA vaccines are gene therapy and they train your body to attack a protein that's
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in the placenta.
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All four of the damn things are the same thing.
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Well, one of them, at least, that you were bringing up isn't an mRNA vaccine.
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Well, there's that problem.
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And that whole thing about attacking the placenta is nonsense, but-
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There is that.
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I just, I don't know.
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This is desperate.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Anyway, we don't have time for us to all wait.
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The inevitable thing that's going to happen, as has always happened, is that Alex says
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something, it sounds silly, and then 20 years later, what do you know, Alex is right.
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Always comes true.
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Always.
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We're living in exactly what Alex predicted we would be in 1991.
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If there's one thing I've learned from doing this podcast, it's don't ever forget
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don't ever doubt Alex.
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His shit stands up to scrutiny.
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True.
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He's right almost all the time.
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Even when it contradicts other things he's almost always right about?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Be very facetious.
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Never believe Alex.
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He's very dumb and mostly is just talking shit.
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Half the time, he doesn't even remember the shit he says.
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Doesn't care.
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But we don't have time to wait for him to be proven right.
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We need to act on the things that he's saying now, and just trust that in 20 years
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we'll look back and be like, thank god we listened to Alex.
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I just don't trust people who make me want, who say I should do that.
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No.
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Very, very dangerous types.
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Yeah.
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We don't have time for people to say 20 years later Alex Jones was right again.
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Or a year later.
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We gotta get that it's not about who's right.
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The enemy has written books and laid out their plans.
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Of course I know their plans.
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It's so easy to beat them.
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It's a complete criminal takeover.
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They said in Operation Lockstep, 11 years ago, Rockefeller Foundation, which John Hopkins,
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the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, go read it.
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It's online.
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We do.
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They bring in a planetary police state by disease X, something like a weaponized cold
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virus, and that there'd be no way to ever defeat it.
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We could teach people to be tracked, controlled, and locked down, and that new variants would
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show up all the time so that the lockdown would never end.
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It's just making that shit up.
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It's just making that shit up.
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Yep.
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So yeah, I don't know.
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Disease X actually has adamantium claws as well.
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True.
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Yeah.
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In 20 years, we'll look back and be like, wow, I can't believe that this was okay.
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Yeah.
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This guy got away with this shit.
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That's my prediction.
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Yeah.
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So if you want to look at what he's saying now and sort of think about like, okay, you
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think that you're going to be proven right about everything.
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Sure.
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Here's the kind of shit he's saying.
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This is an exact plan.
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They teach in elementary school in Germany, we played the actual training videos, that
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when you're seven years old, you should be prepared to marry a Muslim by 14.
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You should be dating a Muslim by 10, and that Muslims will be the future of Europe and that
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Christianity is bad.
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I can show you those newscasts if you like.
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I would like to see those newscasts.
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I would like to see those.
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Don't think you can.
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That would be a very funny video to share on the internet.
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Where the Germans are teaching elementary school kids, hey, you're behind if you're
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not dating a Muslim by fourth grade.
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Hey, 11 year old, what are you doing single?
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You old maid.
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You old maid.
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You'll never get married at this rate.
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You're in sixth grade.
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You should just get some cats.
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Yeah.
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And I see that as somebody who has a cat and I love my cat and there's nothing wrong with
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having cats.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, this is the kind of shit that Alex says, horribly bigoted nonsense.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, the globalists, as we know, 10 years behind.
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Yes, always.
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It might just be a few years behind now.
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What about plan B?
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Plan B, Alex never said that stuff.
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Oh, okay.
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Didn't happen.
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Okay.
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They're behind.
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Listen to this.
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I have a lot of thoughts on the other side of this.
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All right.
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And here's the deal.
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They were supposed to have the whole internet shut down with independent media like us before
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they did this.
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They weren't planning to launch this for a couple of years.
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They launched this early because they're behind schedules.
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They thought they'd catch up by launching early.
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What?
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Some future plans.
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What?
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But all these different globalists know that everyone hates them now.
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I mean, Bill Gates is the most hated man on earth.
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Then it's Klaus Schwab.
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Then it's Macron.
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Then it's the British prime minister that turned out to be a total traitor, Boris Johnson.
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Oof.
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So he's talking about the releasing of COVID.
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Yeah.
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Release the COVID.
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He actually even says that.
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Release the COVID.
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But the idea that he's putting forth is that the globalists were a few years behind.
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Right.
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And so they had to pick up some time.
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Super evil worldwide organization that has orchestrated everything.
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Right.
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Still a few years behind.
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Right.
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And this is a plan that goes back to the devil.
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Yes.
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And the beginning of history.
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Yes.
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Thousands of years back.
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I do appreciate that the devil cannot keep a timetable.
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Right.
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Just behind a little bit.
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Just behind.
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He's the devil.
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What, is he going to work hard?
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I mean, in the song, he's behind.
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That's why he got kicked out of heaven.
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That's why he went to Georgia.
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Too lazy.
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They have a real slow pace down there.
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He's way behind.
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Yeah.
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Looking to make a deal.
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So this plan that is millennia old and has to do with Trump staying in office or something.
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Sure.
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They're behind on it.
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Yeah.
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They're behind on this evil plan.
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And so they decide to release COVID a couple of years early.
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Sure.
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A couple of years early because they got to make up that time.
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What's the point of having a plan?
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What's the point of a few years?
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Honestly, if you have a millennia old plan and you're only a few years off,
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6,000 years later or whatever, that's really efficient.
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No one's going to remember that.
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That's really efficient.
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Yeah, a few years in this scale of time is meaningless.
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Yeah.
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You're at a work project.
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It's supposed to last a year and you're three months behind.
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People are furious at you.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So they release COVID a couple of years early to pick up some time.
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Sure.
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Seems dumb.
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Sure.
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Seems stupid.
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Hey guys, we're not ready yet for this plan that's going to end the world.
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I figure we just go for it.
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Yeah, why not?
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Yeah, we got a 50-50 shot.
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So now the problem is that Alex is still on air.
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They were meant to have the internet cracked down by the time that they released this thing.
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Right.
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So...
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So why didn't they?
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Yeah!
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I didn't get a reason for why they did.
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That's my problem.
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Why are they behind?
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Why didn't they shut down?
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Can they not?
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So the goal and the motivation is to make up some lost time.
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Right.
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But the plan that they're engaging in requires that the internet be shut down
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to be pulled off successfully.
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Correct.
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So why would they do this thing to catch up on time
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that they don't have one of the essential pieces in place for?
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Right.
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So dumb.
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Okay, so here's our plan.
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It can only be stopped if we allow independent media to reveal our plans and stop everything.
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Right.
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That, by the way, I'm glad we're having this meeting.
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Yeah.
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That is a crucial first step in terms of us being able to pull off this nefarious plan.
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I would argue it's the only step we can take.
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If we wanted to go early, it would only be that one.
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I'm glad we're all on the same page.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So release the COVID.
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Alex will destroy our plans.
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Yeah.
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Certainly.
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And we will not only not make up time, we will lose time.
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We will be set back.
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We'll lose forever.
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We'll be set back to devil times.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Our plan will have to go, we're gonna have to do a page one rewrite on this evil plan.
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Yeah. John of Patnos is about to marvel at our great beast and then he's just gonna go
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back in and the seals are gonna close again.
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Cause we forgot to shut down the internet.
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Fuck.
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Damn it.
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You know what?
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This is on us.
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Yeah.
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We can't claim ignorance on this one.
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We knew that Alex was gonna fuck us up.
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We do like that there are exit interviews for the higher echelons.
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Oh shit.
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Just like, sorry guys, this one's on me.
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Yeah.
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This one's my bad.
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I'll take credit for it.
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So anyway, this is just catalog this in the Alex's plans of the globalists make no sense.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They're real bad at what they do.
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They're real bad.
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Yeah.
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It's almost like he's making it all up.
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So, um, one of the things that got everyone really excited over the weekend was there
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was a piece in the wall street journal about Alex being involved in the funding of the,
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uh,
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Stop the steal January 6th.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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And I read that article and I don't think, uh, that Alex comes off looking that terrible.
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I mean, it's just, you know, organizing and fundraising and stuff.
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I think Ali Alexander obviously looks like way more of a creep.
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That's kind of cause he is.
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Yeah.
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He's a real dangerous lunatic.
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Uh huh.
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Um, but
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Somebody should give him a radio show and then maybe the profit incentive will keep
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him from being too much of an asshole.
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Possibly.
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Yeah.
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Um, Alex responds to this piece on the wall street journal and I think he responds
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exactly how I did.
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And that is, I said all of that stuff on air.
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Yeah.
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So there's hundreds of articles, TV shows, all breathlessly.
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All breathlessly saying, Oh, January 6th rally funded by top Trump donor helped by
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Alex Jones organizers say.
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And it's word for word.
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What I said, day one, Trump wanted to rally the six.
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Nobody would step up with the money.
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I stepped up, put 80 something thousand dollars down to try to secure the venues.
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Cause you got a park service won't even let you authorize the permit unless you show
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you're going to have security and porta potties and all the stuff.
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And then a well-known donor heard I was doing it in contact and I was handing them
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over to her big Republican fundraisers and to them.
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And they tried to turn that into a big conspiracy that I was planning to try to do
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all of this so that we could storm the Capitol.
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From my perspective, I think Alex is kind of right.
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Yeah.
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But I think that this reveals a couple of really funny things.
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Um, first of all, like just the, the idea that he's like, why are they, I, I said
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this and he did.
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Yep.
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He's constantly said a lot of the stuff that's in that wall street journal article
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and the sort of revelations of it are things that you would know if you listen
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to info wars.
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Yeah.
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Now, the thing that I think is really funny is like, let's say January 8th, Alex
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has been talking about this and that he had paid for part of this rally.
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There's that.
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The wall street journal would never report on that cause it's just Alex saying it.
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Yeah.
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That's fair.
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Yeah.
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That is fair.
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Alex is an unreliable witness.
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I can't believe anything this guy says.
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Yeah.
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Our source is Alex Jones and it's about Alex Jones and I don't believe a word of
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it.
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Of course.
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So there's a story in the wall street journal now cause someone else said it.
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I don't know.
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I think that would almost be something that Alex should be called as a witness
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at Trump's impeachment trial.
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He thinks he's going to be.
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I mean, he did just say that Trump told him, you know, I didn't have a hard time.
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He's putting himself in the center of that impeachment trial too because of this
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wall street journal piece.
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And, but he's also saying like, they'll never call me as a witness because I
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tried to stop the storming.
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Oh, I'll call him as a witness.
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I'll call you as a witness any day of the week, buddy.
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I want to get you in that stand.
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Oh, it'd be fun.
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Only way to make the impeachment trial more ludicrous would be to invite Alex
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Jones.
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Alex, can I remind you you're under oath?
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I don't even know what that means.
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Yeah.
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So I think it's really funny that the, like a lot of the underlying information
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of this article is stuff that was public prior, but also maybe bullshit.
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Not proven, not proven.
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Yeah, it's not proven.
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And so the second thing that I think is really funny is that the article says,
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quote, Mr. Jones personally pledged more than $50,000 in seed money for a planned
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January 6th event in exchange for a guaranteed top speaking slot of his
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choice according to a funding document outlining a deal between the company,
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his company, and an early organizer for the event.
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So Alex was doing pay to play.
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Of course.
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He was putting down money in order to get a speaking slot.
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Yep.
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That's wild.
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That's kind of embarrassing.
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That's sad.
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In the article, it seems like that's him paying for access.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there's clout and there's money and you don't have clout.
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And there was no way that Alex was going to get a speaking slot at Trump's
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actual event.
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No, good God, no.
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So, I mean, I figure he did speak the night before.
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That might've been what he paid for.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Kind of a bummer, but I do think that those two things in the Wall Street
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Journal article are pretty funny.
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The unreliability of Alex to even speak about his own life and the fact that he
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has to pay to get a speaking slot.
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It is weird how you can both fall so far and yet at the same time inspire a
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literal overthrowing of a country.
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It is.
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That's an interesting up and down kind of scenario there.
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It is interesting.
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Yeah.
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So we end this episode now, Jordan, with evidence of why Alex should never
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have to pay to speak somewhere as long as he's forced to speak over a certain
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song.
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You can face it.
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I understand powerful men.
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Most of them never do anything in their lives because they're ashamed of their
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power.
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They don't want to force their way to the front.
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They're humble.
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They love their family.
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They love their friends.
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They love their community.
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And so they defer to others.
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You can't do that.
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You belong in charge.
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You belong in charge of your life, your family, your destiny.
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And if you don't take control, this evil corrupt system that's laughing at us
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will I call on men to start acting like men.
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I call on men to follow the basic code God wrote on your soul and to stop
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following with fallen men that put out because they're not following God.
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They are falling the fallen one.
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All right.
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You know, I didn't just have all these articles and all these video clips.
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Yes, you did.
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Yes, you absolutely did.
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That's why that's why you would say that.
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Of course.
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That was not the best work he's done over that song, but pretty okay.
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There were moments of the flickering passion.
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I would listen to a cover album of him sing talking what he thinks the lyrics
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to songs are.
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I don't want him to do that.
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Although I do think that would be interesting as a side project.
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I want an album of just that song, 12 tracks.
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Yeah.
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Just that song.
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But different days, Alex, just Alex's greatest hits, freestyling.
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Yes, whatever is on his mind.
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This is like a great thesis at the beginning of this.
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I know about powerful men.
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Go from there.
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Go for it.
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Just see what happens.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just write it.
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You love that goddamn saxophone.
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Everybody loves that.
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I'm talking about Alex.
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He loves that saxophone.
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Oh, he does.
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It does something to him.
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It does something to me.
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Yeah.
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We were both dancing.
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We did, I didn't hear much of what he said.
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I was too busy singing along.
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That is a sultry ass song.
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It is a great track.
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It's a banger of a track.
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I mean, it's no Zamfir, the lonely shepherd.
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But yeah, it clearly puts Alex into some kind of a zone where it's like, it's time to blow
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hard.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's time to be...
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No narratives right now.
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I'm just going with straight, inspirational fucking clear eyes, full hearts, belong to
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the city.
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I can see the horizon.
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Yeah, 100%.
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Absolutely.
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Alex talks a bunch about being able to kick himself into a psychic state, and I don't
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believe that.
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But that song kicks him into something.
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Something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we come to the end of this exploration, Jordan, and I'm left with sort of a bad taste
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in my mouth for Alex and his January 6th narratives.
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I think it'll be interesting to see, as we get closer to the impeachment, how Alex keeps
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probably trying to egg Trump into turning it into some kind of a circus.
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Yeah.
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And what ends up happening with that will be fascinating to watch Alex deal with.
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But I do worry about his malleability.
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The fact that he can have these people, the Boogaloos, that he decided were a FBI cutout
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group, and he said he'd proved all this, and then have two of them on to manipulate him
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and embarrass him in different ways.
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So easy.
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It's just, it's a mess.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I imagine that this is...
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I think what scares me most about this is how easily they are hand-waving away what
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even Alex was like, this is going to fuck everything up.
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You know, like, Alex is, I got to back away from this.
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This is all, this, I know this is bad for me.
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I know that this January 6th takeover of the fucking country is bad for me.
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Yeah.
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And it takes two weeks for people to convince me that, eh, you guys are great.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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Well, no, because he's trying to have it both ways too.
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He's trying to retain that this was bad, but also like all of the actors who were actually
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involved in it aren't bad, there were just a few people in their organizations who were
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secret globalists who were trying to make them look bad.
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It's too complicated.
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No, he's still trying to run interference for people who are going to do what he wants
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them to do.
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Yeah, in the same way that Stuart Rhodes is gonna still fundraise for his Oathkeeper folks
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who stormed the Capitol, Alex is making it very clear that if you kiss the ring, sort
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of, or if you'll play ball a little bit, I will pretend that all the members of your
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group who do bad things are not really part of your group.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And that's stupid.
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That's fucked up.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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But expected.
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100%.
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Anyway, sorry the episode's late, we'll be back with another episode at the end of the
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week.
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Indeed.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website, it's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we're also on Twitter.
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We are also on Twitter, it's at knowledgefight.net, go to bed Jordan.
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Yeah, we'll be on Facebook in the future.
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We'll be on Facebook someday.
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Yeah.
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But iTunes, if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
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Yeah, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm Daryl Rundis, I'm the Juiciest Dice
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Cube.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
