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Great respect for knowledge, fight.
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Knowledge, fight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys
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saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge, fight.
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Dan and George.
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Knowledge, fight.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Need, need money.
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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and, Andy.
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Stop it.
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Andy and, Andy and, Andy and, Andy and, Andy.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding us.
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Hello, Alex, I'm a system caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledge, fight.
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Knowledge, fight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're couple dudes.
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Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Wow, my bright spot.
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Why don't you go first
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because I got a little bit of a segment
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for my bright spot.
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Okay, all right.
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My bright spot is my partner and I played tennis
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for the first time in like 10 months.
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I know you guys love tennis.
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We love tennis.
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We thought that the,
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because the park next to us where we played tennis
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was completely torn down.
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Yeah.
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We thought that the tennis courts were gone too.
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Oh.
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But it turns out there was an opening
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and we could have gone for the past like four months.
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Oh.
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So it's real disappointing,
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but it was great to play tennis.
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It was good to get out there.
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You know what?
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Maybe the time away from it justifies the,
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like how good it feels to go back justifies the time away.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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Bright side guy today.
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I like it.
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I like it.
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So my bright spot, Jordan.
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Yes, sir.
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You got to look in the mail bag.
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Okay.
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Zip.
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Checking in the mail bag for my bright spot.
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Okay.
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First of all, I'd like to say thank you to Steven.
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Steven D who sent a gift card for a diamond gusset jeans.
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Did not come in the mail over email,
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but still very appreciated.
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I have not ordered them yet.
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The random size jeans,
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but I will keep you updated on that.
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We're going to need to take bets on the size
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that shows up.
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How funny is this?
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They're like a couple of years ago,
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we find a commercial on Alex's show for some stupid jeans
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that are anti NAFTA or whatever.
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And now here we are.
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Yeah.
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We live kind of a ridiculous life, don't we?
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Yeah, but it's very nice.
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And I appreciate it, Steven.
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Thank you so much.
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That's very much.
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Thank you.
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And then second, Jordan,
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I'd like to direct your attention at this.
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Holy shit.
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That is a knife.
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That's a knife.
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That is a knife.
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You are holding down threateningly.
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This is a knife.
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All right, there you go.
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Crocodile Dundee shit.
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Yeah.
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Holy shit, that is a knife.
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Yeah.
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I got a cool handcrafted knife.
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That's awesome.
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In the mail.
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Also got this little letter.
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Dan and Jordan,
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thank you so much for the work you guys do.
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I honestly appreciate it.
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The show gives me facts to use
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against my crazy right wing family.
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Also, it's great waking up three times a week
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getting excited for something.
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If you guys ever find yourself in Columbus,
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parentheses, hashtag flavor town.
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Hell yeah.
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Okay, rename.
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Hit me up if you want to go eat,
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forge something or even ride horses.
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Take care, policy wonk, Chris.
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Yeah, that's very nice of you, Chris.
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That's really, really fucking cool.
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That knife is amazing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Also, thank you for sending a note with that
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because just mailing a knife to somebody
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has a very different connotation.
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Yeah, it would maybe be startling
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under other circumstances.
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Knife and a horse head show up at your door.
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So, Chris has a thing, a page,
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a thing over on Etsy called Folkvangr's Forge.
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Folkvangr's Forge.
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I'm going to spell it.
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V-A-N-G.
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F-O-L-K-V-A-N-G-R apostrophe S is forge.
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F-O-R-G-E.
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Oh, okay.
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Folkvangr's Forge.
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Sure, vangr's.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I'm bad at pronouncing things,
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but I went over and I actually looked at
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a lot of the designs he has up on there
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and there's a lot of really cool looking stuff.
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The handcraft knives and various cutlery for kitchens.
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And from what I understand, actually,
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if I understand this note correctly,
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there is another one that's going to come.
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So you and I will each get one of these knives.
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And that will lead to our ultimate showdown
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as was always meant to be.
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Yes, perhaps.
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So thank you so much, Chris.
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Really appreciate it.
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And I can't wait for that other knife to come
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so we can do battle.
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Yes, that'd be great.
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You are holding that very threateningly.
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From now on.
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Also, incompetently.
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I feel like I could take that away from you pretty easily.
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Not a chance.
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Okay, fair enough.
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From now on, the rest of the podcast will be with us.
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At Knives Out.
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Knives Out.
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Well, you can't say that.
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That's copyrighted.
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Oh, fair enough.
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Great movie.
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I've not seen it.
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I'm just aware that it exists.
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Don't know anything about it.
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Just, I've heard a name.
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Hey, it's great.
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So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode
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to go over.
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We got, oh boy.
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Any big news?
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Hmm, I will say that this weekend has been a lot of fun
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because I have been just coming off the end of,
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like, a lot of work around the house.
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Sure.
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Got air conditioning units put in the windows
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that took a lot more effort out of me
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than I would have hoped it would have.
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Naturally.
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You helped me put together a bed frame.
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It's great, looks great.
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So I got a lot of that stuff going on.
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My life is feeling pretty good.
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It's happening.
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I feel very close to sort of adult age.
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Turning up to an adult.
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Friday night rolls around.
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Yes.
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I'm getting ready to go to bed in my bed
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that's on a frame for the first time in 15 years.
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Incredible.
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Right.
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No news could take you off that pedestal, right?
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Click on Twitter.
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Roger Stone, sentence commuted.
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Great.
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Not unexpected.
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No.
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I believe I said he would never spend a day in prison.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I kind of, like, in my heart of hearts,
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in my deep down, I didn't think he was probably
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gonna go to prison.
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But I also thought it would be pretty wild
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for Trump to do it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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To commute his sentence or pardon him
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or give him clemency.
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And so I thought there was a chance
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that that would be too much.
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But it shows that you shouldn't really second guess
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those sorts of things.
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No, no.
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And it makes total sense when you really think about it too,
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like to string it out a bit.
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Oh, yeah.
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For ratings.
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I find it all hilarious that Trump made him beg
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for so long makes me laugh very hard.
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I mean, who knows what the actual dynamic is,
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but that's certainly how it looks.
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Yeah, it does.
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So yeah, a lot of people were suggesting,
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you know, I got some messages on Twitter
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and around to people were saying,
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hey, emergency episode, Roger got parted.
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Sure, sure.
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And my sense of it was I need to wait.
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Because I think Alex is going to, you know, Saturday.
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He's probably gonna do an emergency episode.
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So let's settle down on this.
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He's the emergency guy.
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We do our show.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But sometimes it's fun to throw out an emergency episode.
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That's true.
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So I decided to wait for Monday
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when we would have his Saturday work together.
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Because the announcement was on Friday.
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And so Saturday he has all day.
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Of course.
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He should be able to put together quite a pageant
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and a celebration.
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A victory lap unheard of.
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Yes.
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And so we'll see what happens with that.
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Today our episode is actually going to be covering
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the period of the 9th, July 9th through July 11th, 2020.
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I'm Dan, this is 2020.
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God damn it.
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And yeah, so the 9th, not much.
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Not gonna talk about much on that episode.
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10th is the day of the commuting.
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The day of the commuting.
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And so we're gonna talk about that.
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And then the 11th is Saturday
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where Alex came into studio, did a special two hour,
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fuck yeah, emergency episode.
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He played all of Nipsey Hussle's victory lap for an hour.
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That was it.
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It was less that and more, I don't know, man.
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I feel really weird about this because I know
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that there's probably gonna be some people tuning in
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that are gonna be like, you know.
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Oh, there's gonna be something special from us today.
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Yeah, I don't know if there is.
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I don't.
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Why would you expect Alex to bring it now?
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I don't wanna, no, no, no.
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What happens is going to be a great podcast for us.
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Oh, okay, okay, good.
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But I don't, okay, if you're expecting some kind of like,
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the narrative of Roger Stone has been vindicated,
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shows up on a white horse on Info Wars
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to tell everyone to kiss his ass,
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that's not going to happen.
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Really?
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Yes.
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It's gotta happen though, come on.
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But you really expect that that's going to be the thing
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that happens on this Saturday show.
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Absolutely.
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And I want to make sure that no one thinks
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that I am trying to tease that
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to keep you listening to the end.
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This episode could be a little bit long.
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There's a lot of bullshit that happens.
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Yeah, I believe that.
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So before we get down to business on that though,
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Jordan, I'm gonna take a moment to say thank you
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to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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So first, Chase T, thank you so much,
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you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thanks, Chase!
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Thank you.
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Next, Jordan's Giggle, that's you.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Jordan's Giggle.
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You're not gonna do the giggles?
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You know what, I don't even know
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what giggle they're talking about!
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Ha ha ha!
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Like the Pillsbury Doughboy!
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All right, thank you.
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Next, Trevor,
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thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Trevor.
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Thanks, Trevor.
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Next, James Y, thank you so much,
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you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, James.
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Next, MC, but it's EM and then C, last initial.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, MC.
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Thank you.
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Next, Zach, and then in parentheses, yes, Bill, this is your colleague, Zach.
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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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Thanks, Zach.
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Next, Colleen W. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Colleen.
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Finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on an elevated level,
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we appreciate that very much.
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First, David H. Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat and the soil will save us.
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Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support
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these gents too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking
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the button that says support the show, we'd appreciate it.
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Or you can take that generosity, bundle it up real nice, give it underhand pitch, just
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casual recreational softball style.
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Just out of the park with your friends, playing a little pickup game, toss it over to a charity
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in your area that helps people in need.
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So yeah, Jordan, here we go.
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Really quick thing.
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I have a whole lot to announce about the year of the Seltzer, but I do need to point one
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thing out, and that is that I did get a message from Bayley, listener Bayley, who pointed
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out that I may have ranked a single Seltzer twice, and I might have given them two different
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ratings.
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Two different ratings?
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Might have done that.
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How far apart?
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I don't want to talk about it.
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Not super far apart, not so far apart that it would blow your mind.
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15.
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Less.
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Less than 15?
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Yes.
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Okay, that's in the margin of error, I feel.
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I don't, look, we're going to pretend this didn't happen, and I've decided, I talked
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to the commissioners, which is me, and decided that the first ranking stands, and so the
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other one has been evacuated.
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Okay, okay.
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Is that the right word?
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No.
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Vacated.
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That's it.
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Vacated, the second scoring.
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Thank you for pointing that out, Bayley.
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That would have been really humiliating, and I don't want this to get out publicly, although
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I'm saying it on a podcast.
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So Jordan.
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Yes, sir.
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Down to business.
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Okay.
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A lot of, too much business up top.
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Too much business?
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Too much business really to cover.
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I don't even think we can, no, there's just too much to cover, I don't even think we can
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get to it in this segment.
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No, probably not.
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No.
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Let's go off air.
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Yeah, let's get out of here.
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I'm going to go to a special report.
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So we start on the ninth, and one of the reasons that I kept this in, as opposed to just focusing
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entirely on the eleventh, is because I think that there's a little bit of a narrative arc
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to it.
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Okay.
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And that is that Alex, he knows that something's probably coming for Roger.
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Sure.
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Roger Stone joins us coming up at the bottom of the next hour, and he's got big news, and
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it's so big that I just think I'm going to let him cover what he wants to cover, and
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I'm not even going to give you any preludes or any hints.
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But let's just say this.
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Isn't this a prelude?
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In the next six days before he's scheduled to be sent to prison for a crime he didn't
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commit as a political prisoner, he's going to work to make this the exclusive first place
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he comes on.
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Now, if he gets pardoned or gets clemency in the next few days at six o'clock at night,
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and I don't answer the phone immediately, and if I can't get a crew down here in 20
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minutes, we won't get the exclusive.
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That's okay.
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I just wanted him to get clemency or a pardon.
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So I told him just to make the first phone call, and if we can't get stuff fired up,
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you know, go ahead and go on Fox News or whatever.
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So this to me sounds like preemptive rationalization.
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Translation, he's not going to go on our show first.
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He's probably, you're going to see it somewhere else, he's probably at the point where Tucker
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will have him on and he knows there's better ratings there.
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Now, that's just because I'm going to be drunk at six.
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He's so drunk at six that he just can't come into work.
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It's his fault, really.
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Now Roger's going to do everything he can to give me the exclusive, whatever.
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The idea that Roger would have to work hard, like, hey man, I'm going to put in the time
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to make a phone call to you.
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So that's why it's good that Alex's report about Roger's shit is on Saturday, because
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then it sort of takes away the whole need for the exclusive Friday night.
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You know, he could do that little improv two press conference, and then Saturday, roll
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around in the shit with your buddy.
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Absolutely.
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Waggle his dick around for a bit.
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Also, I will say this.
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What's that?
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Alex does cover the Wayfair conspiracy.
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Oh, of course he does.
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I knew it would happen.
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On the Saturday show.
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I knew it would happen.
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So I'll tease that.
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Okay.
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Jesus Christ.
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Of course he does.
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Yeah, so get ready for that.
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God, I hate everyone.
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Bunch of bullshit.
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I hate everyone so much.
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Alex, it was one of the more interesting things Alex has done in a while, actually.
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Really?
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His position on it is very, very bizarre.
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Frankly, I think they should change the name.
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So on the ninth here, he just starts talking about whatever, just his normal shit.
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Just villain time, talking about the evils of abortion.
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And it just came out, the lawsuits from a decade ago are just now winning, where the
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FDA was paying across the nation, hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars
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total for quote, fresh baby parts with still beating hearts.
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Berkeley, in one particular filing that just came out last year, said we want beating hearts.
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And so they would deliver them actually in a box and they would butcher them right there
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on the spot.
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It's like, I can pick up and order some hot wings or whatever.
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Now, where is PETA not caring about all this?
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By the way, if you're new here, this is all on record, university ordered beating hearts
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of babies.
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What?
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Where is PETA in all this?
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I don't know.
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So this unsurprisingly is a story that Alex is completely lying about.
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And generally I might have just ignored it, but it kind of bothered me how at the end
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he was just like, you can look it up.
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Whenever he says something like that, it's really hard for me to resist taking him up.
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It's a challenge.
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It's a straight up challenge.
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This is from that batch of edited videos that were released in 2015 by the Center for Medical
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Progress, which was that anti-abortion outlet that engaged in Project Veritas style undercover
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video propaganda pieces.
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I'm starting to think they're not really a center for medical progress.
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Nope.
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Medical regress.
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What this comes down to is an erroneous claim that's made in that Center for Medical Progress
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videos, which is then exaggerated and distorted.
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The video claims that a procedure that's being done by Stanford University researchers, not
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Berkeley, this procedure is called a Langendorff perfusion.
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They say that it requires a beating heart to be done.
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Having established this erroneous piece of information, the video makers then tried to
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demonstrate that heart tissue had been provided to Stanford, which they were able to do, which
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is then used to present as evidence that beating human hearts have been delivered to Stanford.
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Sure.
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Great.
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I'm fine with it.
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On a very basic level, this is really sloppy work.
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And in order for the tree of logic to follow appropriately, you need for all the pieces
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to stand up to scrutiny.
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If one piece is bad, this whole argument collapses.
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So the fact that Langendorff perfusions do not require beating hearts kind of destroys
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the entire point here.
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Everything else could be true, namely that Stanford researchers do this procedure and
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that they've obtained heart tissue for it.
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And the claim, the main claim that they've been given beating hearts can be false.
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You can have all that other stuff be true and the part that you want to be the point
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is false.
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The big false.
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Yes.
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And as it turns out, the Langendorff perfusions that are done involving human stem cell research
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don't require a beating heart.
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So this whole thing ultimately proves nothing.
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The thing to remember here, though, is that Alex is even lying about the fake thing that
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he's reporting on.
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The stuff about babies arriving at the university and boxes and them butchering the babies,
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that's just his own fantasies.
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That's just the story he wants to tell his audience to scare them and make them hate
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his imagined enemies even more.
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So it's kind of a hat on a hat of disgusting anti-abortion propaganda here.
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Who teaches you how to properly butcher a baby?
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You know, like, is that an apprenticeship thing or do you get that right out of med
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school?
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I don't know.
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It's also not at all like ordering wings.
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You don't have to butcher the wings.
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Yeah.
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I mean, they don't send you a chicken.
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It depends on where you're ordering the wings from.
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I very rarely send you a chicken.
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That's a fair point.
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You might not be thinking all that straight.
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Just like ordering wings.
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Sure.
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So Alex goes on a little bit more about this sort of topic.
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Sure.
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Or FDA ordered fresh baby parts.
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That just came out last week.
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There's thousands of these articles, so that's who they are.
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They want to murder you and your family.
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That's another thing he said you can look up, so I decided to go ahead and look that
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up.
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Sure.
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This is about a judicial watch scoop.
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So already.
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Already.
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It's right on target.
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They uncovered that the FDA had a contract worth $96,000 between the time of 2012 and
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2018 with a company called Advanced Biosciences Resources where they would be provided with
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fetal tissue for experiments.
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From everything I can tell, this is just about stem cells and there's nothing wrong going
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on here.
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They've uncovered nothing other than something to anger their anti-abortion base.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Are you saying that the FDA spent such a ridiculous sum of money, $96,000 of taxpayer money?
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That's what we should focus on, Dan.
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That's a very small amount for whatever the conspiracy they're trying to spin is.
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It doesn't really rise to the level of what they're like.
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It's making a conspiracy about your boss's petty cash foot.
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If this is an illegal human organ trafficking operation with proceeds up to $95,000, it's
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like I don't think most people would get mixed up with that for that kind of a vig or whatever
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they're taking off the top.
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You could infect somebody with COVID and as we know, get $95,000 easy.
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That's what you got to do.
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Anyway, Trump ended these contracts in 2018, but there's no indication that I can find
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that anyone's doing anything illegal or unethical.
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This just seems like blabbering.
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Alex is also in the business of being real denialist about the surge in coronavirus cases.
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This is basically thinks it's all fraud.
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Here's some of the headlines.
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U.S. corona cases rise above 60,000, setting single day record for one day.
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That's Reuters.
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Should read as testing continues to ramp up to record levels, the number of positive skyrockets
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and most positives are fraudulent.
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Believe the headline that I just read before we started recording was yesterday, Florida
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had 15,000 positive tests, so good, good, good, good.
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So I mostly stuck around on this, this, uh, June, July 9th for the sake of Roger.
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Of course.
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I mostly was like, what's Roger going to be doing news?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So unfortunately when Alex tries to go to Roger, there's some Skype problems.
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All you gotta do is let yourself go.
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All right.
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I'm not normally just going to sing a song or wait on Roger Stone having perpetual Skype
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issues, but he's got big breaking news with us here.
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He told me a lot, but we'll see how much he can say about what's going on.
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He's just six days out from his imprisonment.
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So apparently Alex only sings when there's Skype issues, which means that all of those
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other times we've heard him singing constantly, he's just experiencing a escape problem.
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I believe the years from 2009 to 2015 were entirely Skype problems.
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Yeah.
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I'm pretty sure every single in and out of break Skype problems.
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So Roger got kicked off some social media stuff, uh, and, uh, there's a nice spin on
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that.
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Okay.
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And he's also got a analysis on an unprecedented censorship.
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Bolsonaro is under the same attack saying that his fans aren't allowed to talk about
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him or post his speeches or material.
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Well now Facebook has done that to Roger Stone on Facebook and Instagram quote, cracks down
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on inauthentic activity.
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So ahead of his pardon or ahead of his clemency of him having to go to prison, the president
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doesn't act.
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They are silencing everyone that might cry out against this and another giant authoritarian
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exercise of evil.
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So this is not a case of Facebook just kicking off fans of Roger or Bolsonaro.
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In both cases, the company found that employees of Bolsonaro's government and Roger Stone
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were operating networks of accounts to push coordinated misinformation.
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Now the way that sentence came out of my mouth sounded bad cause it sounds like those two
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networks are connected.
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No.
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And that was not what I was implying.
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Bolsonaro and his government has a network that was being used to push false information
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as did Roger Stone.
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They both have their own unique hybrid bot network that they're using.
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Unclear if it was bots necessarily or like just someone running a bunch of them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A combination of the two.
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According to BBC reporting on the matter, quote, Facebook said it had removed 54 accounts,
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50 pages and four Instagram accounts that it had linked to Mr. Stone.
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These pages would pose as a person not connected to Roger and then promote things that he wanted
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to promote to give the appearance of organic engagement.
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Again, from the BBC, quote, in total, those behind the pages spent about $308,000 on Facebook
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advertising and then an editorial note on my part, three times what the FDA spent six
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years for those contracts.
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There is that.
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On this piece, the sense you get is that the network that Bolsonaro was running was more
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focused on political maneuvering whereas Roger's was mostly geared at self-promotion.
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Roger claims that he's going to sue.
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So if I had to guess, he's going to yell about his innocence on any platform that'll have
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him on.
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He'll use the attention to try and raise money and then he'll admit that he was running all
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those pages in about five years in some sort of an interview with Playboy or something.
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Sure.
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Well, it's not that big a deal.
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Right.
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So this is the game.
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I'm getting kicked off all this social media because-
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Oh, woe is me.
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I'm a victim.
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Why won't anybody let a white man speak on this very loud radio show?
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Now Roger, his main point is seemed to be, I'm going to die if I go to prison because
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of COVID-19.
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Sure.
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COVID-19 is going to kill him.
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The biggest fear in the world.
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Which Alex believes is a hoax and is a hoax, but he's going to kill Roger if he goes to
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prison.
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Right.
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Yes.
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Seems hard to balance those ideas, but they keep trying.
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You guilty of thought crime are about to be sentenced to possible death if you believe
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their whole COVID situation.
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And it's true.
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You don't get prison food.
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You don't get D3.
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You don't get zinc.
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Also, I mean, who knows what they'll pull on you in prison?
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I'd be worried about them winding up somebody to beat you to death.
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See, that should have been the angle the whole time.
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Yeah, of course.
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The beating you to death or something.
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Yeah.
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That should have been the whole play.
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This whole COVID thing is not going to work with the narratives that you have.
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Although I do appreciate Alex trying there with the prison foods bad.
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Yeah, no, I did like the D. You don't get your vitamins.
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You don't get your zinc.
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By the way, I sell zinc.
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Anyways, moving on to you.
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Yeah.
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That is an okay way to try to make this work, but it's just foolish.
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But that's the kind of angle that Roger needs because it's the kind of thing that people
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who don't like him would still kind of have to begrudgingly be like, yeah, you are a nonviolent
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criminal.
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You're not really a threat to anybody.
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You probably should be on house arrest if there is a real danger to your health.
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He knows that that's a really difficult argument to rebut even if you don't like him.
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That's why he was employing it, but it's stupid for Alex to join in with it.
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Right.
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I would argue, though, that he had to employ it because he had to do anything.
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Stone was also, though, talking to the judge.
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So the judge can listen to the COVID argument.
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The judge isn't going to listen to Roger saying like, hey, they might kill me in here because
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I know too much.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no.
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Look, I understand Roger's actions entirely.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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I don't understand Alex's.
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He's trying to do too many things at the same time and it just starts to make no sense.
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So when I said that, you know, the BBC was reporting that Roger had these accounts and
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Facebook said that you should notice that I did not say that Roger did this, Roger allegedly
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did this because I don't want to get sued.
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Here's the other point.
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If you're a journalist, stay with the Wall Street Journal, perfect example, and you report
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this as a fact without saying allegedly or may have.
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I'm coming after you, too.
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Roger, you are absolutely right.
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Again, that's why when I say we're all Roger Stone, they're coming after everybody.
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I could play CNN clips, MSNBC clips, New York Times articles where they say after we get
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Trump and Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of Trump's friends, we're going to punish
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all these people at every level.
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We're going to go after millions of people.
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I mean, these are terrorists.
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These are authoritarians.
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These are the real McCoy.
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These are the enemy.
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Roger, you still there?
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Well, that ended on a good note with his Internet was cut off today.
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Probably an accident, he's paid his bill.
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He was on the phone.
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He wasn't on Skype because they couldn't get the Skype to connect, so I don't know what
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that has to do with his Internet.
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Now they also cannot get the phone to work.
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Right.
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This is not a good operation.
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But it ended on a good note.
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Roger threatening to sue people.
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It ended on a good note.
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It ended on a good note.
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You've got to end on a high note.
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It was a pretty short interview, and that is really the high point of it is Roger's
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phone cutting out, and yeah, he allegedly had all these bots and shit because I don't
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want to get sued.
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Yeah, I like that.
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You know, it's kind of like the old Roger.
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Threatening people.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You like it.
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Almost feels like at this point he knows he's cool.
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Oh, yeah.
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He's free.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's beautiful.
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Although this is still Thursday, so he shouldn't know this at this point.
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Oh, he knows he's free, yeah.
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Yeah, you kind of get the sense that he's got the information.
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Yeah.
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He's going on in force and threatening to sue people who report on his bot farm, alleged
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bot farm.
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The tone of his previous interviews that we've covered have been very much, please, God,
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please give me a pardon.
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There's still a bit of like really overplaying the religiousness in my new found.
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As soon as I decided to love God, everything turned around.
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There's still some of that, but he does not say, he does not discuss praying to Trump
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this time.
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Now, if we know one thing from our time doing this show, Alex is totally fine when tech
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doesn't work.
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Oh, yeah.
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No.
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He is.
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He's not mad at the crew, Dan.
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He's not mad at the crew.
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Certainly not.
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He's not mad at the crew.
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He's the kind of guy who's like, he's the guy you want with you when there's trouble.
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Yeah.
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Because he keeps his head about him.
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Oh, of course.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's the kind of guy you want behind the wheel when you hit some ice.
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He's the kind of guy who knows that you just tap on the brake.
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Keeps calm and knows how to keep everyone safe.
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Absolutely.
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Doesn't freak out.
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Crisis management is his name.
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Roger, are you there?
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I've learned when to tap out, guys.
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I've just, I don't want to tap out.
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All right.
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I have my instincts.
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I'm ready to tap out.
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Roger's not there.
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I'm not going to, you know, the most amateur thing on talk radio, Howard Stern does is
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recalls his prank callers, call a radio station and then act like they're a guest or a caller
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and then go, hello, hello.
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And then say a little something and then not be there and then say, I have a pet peeve
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and it's that.
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It's Roger's cell phones out.
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And so I'm not going to do this thing where I go back and forth and back and forth and
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back and forth and back.
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I'm not doing it anyways.
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The ongoing technical difficulties are fun.
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They are fun.
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And I refuse to wallow in them.
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I'm leaving.
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I refuse to be part of this crap telling you, man, because it's not that it's doing it over
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and over and over and over and over and over again.
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The failure that the criminals everywhere, the devil doctors killing all the old people
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and the liars like Bill Gates.
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We all just sit here while they crap all over us.
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OK, there is the U.N.
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Well, Sasha Barricone says, I want to talk about this a little, have me arrested, but
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I'm going to talk about it.
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Get Cohen cued up.
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We're able to do that.
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Great crew.
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I'm not mad at them.
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I'm just it's little amateur pet peeve things I have that we're done with that body.
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We're done.
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We're done.
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We're done.
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Done.
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Well, what's your favorite part about this?
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Which was your favorite part.
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First of all, all of it.
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Yeah, fantastic, fantastic.
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Just art.
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My favorite part for sure, though, is that it begins the freak out with him talking about
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how it's amateurish on radio shows when you hear someone say hello, hello and they can't
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hear each other.
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It doesn't sync up quite right and then he does two minutes screaming about how this
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keeps happening on his show.
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That's the most amateurish thing.
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Keeps over and over and over and over and over again.
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You know what's amateur?
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Not being able to roll with the fucking punches.
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Constantly freaking out whenever you have
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tech difficulties at your million dollar studio.
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Yeah, that's amateurish.
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Yeah, you think I've never done,
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how many shows have I been on
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in the middle of fucking nowhere
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where all of a sudden the microphone cuts out
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and I just gotta toss it aside
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and continue doing the goddamn show?
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I don't stop and scream at the bartender.
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No, you're a bad practitioner of your craft
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if you are unable to, and granted,
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if you're really early on in doing standup,
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you probably shouldn't be expected
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to be able to handle that.
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Sure, no, no, no, absolutely not.
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But if let's say you've been doing it
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for, I don't know, 20 something years
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on a professional level, you probably should be able to.
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Let's say the lights go out.
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That's a challenge, but you should be able to handle it.
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Of course.
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The mic goes off, you should be able to handle it.
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No big deal.
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You should not be completely fucked up by it.
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Now let's say you're doing a month of shows
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at a certain place.
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Yeah.
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And then the mic keeps going out.
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Again and again and again and again and again and again.
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Now let's say the 15th time it happens,
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you still can't handle it, and somehow,
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you haven't been able to talk to the manager
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or the guy behind the tech booth
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and figure out what the fuck is going on
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with the mic going out.
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You can't fix it.
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It's impossible to fix.
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I would argue you're a bad performer,
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you're a bad comedian.
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True.
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You're not caring.
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Yeah, you're failing on a whole lot of levels.
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And you're lazy.
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The other word I would use is amateurish.
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Yes.
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But damn it, do I love those freak outs.
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Although that one did give me chills a little bit.
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Like it felt a little realer at points.
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Yeah.
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Just of the real intense anger.
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There's a level of repetition that we get to
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that stops being performative
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and starts being a representation of psychosis.
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Yeah, but I want to fill in.
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Again and again and again and again and again,
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you're like, okay, I get you.
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But you do it 30 more times and you're like,
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you need me.
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Maybe, or it's filling time.
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Could be.
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Might have realized, well.
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I got nothing else to do.
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Got 20 seconds to break.
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I could just say done, done, done, over and over again.
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We'll get there.
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We'll get to the break.
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We'll get to the break, that's true.
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Time continues.
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Rest of the show does not matter.
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So we jump back in on the 10th here
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and Alex is getting ready for the 2020 election.
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Sure.
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And basically what we've got in front of us
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is two possibilities.
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One, Trump wins or Trump wins,
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but it looks like Biden's won because there's a coup.
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Okay.
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115 planet rotations.
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Fuck you.
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We are in the middle of what will be
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a giant contested election.
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The cherry on top,
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the detonator to take this country into hot civil war.
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Inside the Pentagon,
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everyone is being approached and being asked,
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will you support a coup against President Trump?
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Okay.
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So that's going to be the theme of this episode
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for the most part.
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There's a coup,
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which we learned about already on Alex's show
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because Joe Biden had to go talk shit on The Daily Show.
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Oh, he's going to coup him.
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Unveil the coup plans.
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Hey, I think Trump's insane
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and he might try and stay in power thing
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is obviously him saying he's going to take over.
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That's a coup.
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So in order to defend his argument,
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Alex has a couple of articles that he's using
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as like the big tent poles here
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and they don't really work, but he tries.
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Well, now I have the Council on Foreign Relations,
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America's Democratic Unraveling.
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On page 50,
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on page five,
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it says the armed forces will be needed to remove Trump.
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That if he contests the election in any way,
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he will be removed by the US military.
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Naturally, Alex has not read this article
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in the Foreign Affairs
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and honestly, probably he's just hoping
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no one in his audience does either.
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It's a pretty savage laying out of the various ways
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that our country's structure and government
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have been usurped by Trump
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and the right wing's drive for power.
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And it's honestly pretty fair handed.
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The central thesis of this article
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is that erosion of norms and the structure of our society
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is a gradual process,
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but the collapse comes very fast.
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It's very well articulated in this passage.
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Quote, as James Robinson and I argue
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in our recent book, The Narrow Corridor,
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democratic institutions restrain elected leaders
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by enabling a delicate balance of oversight
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by different branches of government,
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the legislature and the judiciary,
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and political action by regular people,
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whether in the form of voting in elections
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or exerting pressure via protest.
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But democratic institutions rest on norms,
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compromise, cooperation, respect for truth,
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and are bolstered by an active self-confident citizenry
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and a free press.
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When democratic values come under attack
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and the press and civil society are neutralized,
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the institutional safeguards lose their power.
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Under such conditions, the transgressions of those in power
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go unpunished or become normalized.
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The gradual erosion of checks and balances
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thus gives way to sudden institutional collapse.
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That's a pretty fair assessment of, you know.
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Yeah.
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So this article argues that Trump has been playing
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a very authoritarian playbook
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since he began his presidency.
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Quote, by dismissing concerns about Russian interference
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in the US election, refusing to disclose his tax returns,
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openly pursuing policies that serve
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his family's financial interests,
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vilifying Hispanic and Muslim Americans,
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propagating conspiracy theories,
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and relentlessly lying to the press,
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the president has left practically no norm
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of democratic governance unviolated.
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These actions not only weaken the institutions
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that are supposed to restrain the president,
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but also further polarize the US electorate,
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creating a constituency that unconditionally supports Trump
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out of fear that the Democrats will take power.
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The author, Darren Asmoglu,
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is a professor of economics at MIT
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that discusses how nothing is certain
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and that things aren't too far gone
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for us to course correct,
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but that probably is gonna be, if it does happen,
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it's gonna be a long, painful process
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and it's probably impossible if Trump is reelected.
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His consistent pattern of behaving
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as a singular dictator-ish leader
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who's not constrained by any of the normal things
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that make our system function would continue.
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And Asmoglu is of the opinion that, in that situation,
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there's really nothing that could stop the administration
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and everything from collapsing.
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Yeah, of course not.
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A fair point is made that, quote,
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even if Democratic candidate Joe Biden
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wins the upcoming election,
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his new administration would confront damage
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that it will be powerless to fix
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unless it addresses the deep structural problems
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that propelled Trump into office in the first place.
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So that's a nice recognition of the fact
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that it's not an easy fix, even if.
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The article has nothing to do with the contested election
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or the military being used to remove Trump.
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Alex is saying those things as a clear indication
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that he didn't read this article
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or he has no interest in discussing what it actually says.
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The line Alex is taking out of context
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comes from a paragraph that's discussing
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how Trump is not at this point, like at this point,
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completely free from all institutional constraints.
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There are some judges who are pushing back
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on his clearly illegal executive orders, for example.
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The article goes on to say, quote,
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the armed forces may be able to restrain him as well,
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as evidenced by the forceful rebuke he received
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from former Defense Secretary James Mattis
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after threatening to deploy the US military
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and National Guard against protesters.
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But it would be a sad day if Americans had to depend
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on the military to save their democracy.
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And the trend is toward fewer,
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not more checks on the president's power.
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If the last remaining restraints give way,
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the fall towards autocracy will be swift.
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That's a sentence that is about military resistance
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to Trump using the army against protesters,
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which ends by lamenting how sad a world it is
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that you would even have to consider the possibility
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that our system has eroded to the point
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where none of our institutions have any ability
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to contain the unchecked power of an aspiring dictator,
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and you have to speculate about what would happen
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if the military was the last check left.
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That's not saying the same thing Alex is claiming it is.
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Anyway, Alex is a liar,
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and this is a good but depressing article,
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particularly in the context of Trump just commuting
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Roger Stone's sentence for crimes he almost certainly
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carried out to advance the interests of Trump himself.
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Yeah, I really am, I'm really disappointed in Trump there
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because it seems, it seems like he made
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a grave miscalculation in not cozying up to the military.
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You know, like from day one.
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I think he's been trying.
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Yeah, but he's just been doing a really shitty job at it.
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It's almost like his inherent personality flaws
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keep him from really taking advantage
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of what a demagogue could do in his situation.
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Like this would be a dictatorship, you know,
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like three years ago if you had done it right.
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It's not hard.
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Like look at the Council of Foreign Relations
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list of things that Trump is doing to erode the norms.
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That all happened before he got elected.
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What's the list that he didn't do during the campaign?
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You're talking about from this article?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, where it was like Russian interference,
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demonizing his family, and all of that stuff
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happened before, he could have taken over your end.
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Yeah, to be fair, he didn't openly pursue policies
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that served his financial interests
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when he wasn't in a position to do that.
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Becoming president is a policy
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that openly pursues his financial interests.
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Becoming president isn't a policy.
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Oh fine, fine, I'll give him that, fine.
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He just broke the law on day one of his election.
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I'm just saying you can't use the presidency
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to enrich yourself when you don't have the presidency.
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You can use the illusion of the possible future presidency.
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Right, fair, fair.
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That's not an abuse of power.
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Running for president to sell books
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is something that a lot of people do.
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It's a very normal thing.
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Yeah, that's not like.
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Which is also an issue we should talk about.
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I don't disagree.
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I think it's fucked up.
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But that's not the same as using the,
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that's not corruption of the office,
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that's corruption of the process, I guess.
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Look, let's not get too deep into the weeds.
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I agree with you for the most part,
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but I also disagree slightly.
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And we'll leave it there for now
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because Alex has another article
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about how there's a coup and all that shit.
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Here's a new one out of the Stanford Advocate.
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Anyone saying that he will not leave will be arrested.
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Trump could lose and not leave the cabinet members
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who try to help face prison.
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So this is actually an article that Alex found
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in the Stanford Advocate, not Stanford.
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And it's actually just a reposting of an article
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from the Washington Post.
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Sure.
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This article is really just a legal analysis
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about how unlikely it is that Trump will refuse
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to step down if he loses in November.
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The reason for that is because in order for him
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to pull that off, he would need to persuade
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the entire executive branch to do so as well.
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When doing so puts them in a very serious legal jeopardy.
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The point of the piece is well summed up
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by the closing paragraph.
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Quote, nothing can with total certainty
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ensure a normal transition of power
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from as abnormal a president as Donald Trump.
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But it's vital to recognize that
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if Trump tries to retain power illegitimately,
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he'll need help from his cabinet.
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Members of that cabinet should go on the record
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pledging their ultimate adherence not to Trump,
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but to the Constitution and the laws of the United States.
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Yeah, sure.
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It would be a lot of people.
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Oh, they would face so terrifying legal consequences.
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Oh no, not legal consequences.
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There's no way to get around legal consequences, Dan.
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I understand what you're saying.
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It would be a gigantic thing.
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You'd need a lot of people to join in with.
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Yeah.
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Which, I mean, it's not inconceivable,
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but it's not as big, like it,
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the issue here is that whether or not Trump
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would be able to successfully do that,
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even gesturing towards it is a problem.
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Yes.
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And even if he doesn't have an executive branch
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to fulfill the duties that you need to run a government,
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even if he still said I'm the legitimate president,
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that causes just as big of a problem.
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Oh yeah, totally.
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So I don't know.
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Anyway, this is something that Alex should support,
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the point of this article,
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because Alex is supposed to love America
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and the Constitution and all those things.
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You're supposed to like the Constitution.
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Yep.
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It's not like this article is even taking Trump
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losing as a certainty.
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Like it explicitly says, quote,
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if Trump legitimately wins on election day, he wins.
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So be it.
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Yeah, the end of America.
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So Alex gets into talking about COVID,
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and of course he now has proof, bombshell proof.
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Oh, Bolsonaro got infected.
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So it's bombshell proof that the, no?
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Bombshell proof that it is not an epidemic
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and that we're all cool now or something.
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Wow.
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I have absolute smoking gun on top of smoking gun
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on top of red flag, on top of hand in cookie jar,
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on top of just absolute ridiculousness,
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that COVID-19 is a giant fraud at every level,
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every facet, every angle designed for planetary takeover,
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AI takeover, depopulation, you name it.
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And now on the CDC's own website,
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they say that COVID-19 is not a epidemic
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and that actually it is a nose diving death curve.
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And that's why every headline you see says
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America's entered a black hole of COVID.
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America failed.
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America sucks.
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America opened too early.
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America.
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Unbelievable.
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This is just some bullshit that Alex is taking
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from an article on Tom Papert's blog, National File.
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The National File article asserts that quote,
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according to the CDC reports from March to May,
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COVID-19 deaths had a sudden spike
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and then immediately proceeded to drop.
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And if the drop continues,
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the viral disease will no longer be considered an epidemic
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according to international standards.
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That's great.
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Well then I'm glad to know that May was a good month for us
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and I'm sure things will continue on in that.
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Even if you just take that as true,
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then Alex is still misreporting this story.
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He's saying that the CDC says
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that this is currently not an epidemic,
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whereas the story he's covering
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is talking about a possible threshold
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that might be reached in the future, which is bad work.
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The link that the National File provides
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is to a page on the CDC's website
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reflecting data for the week ending on July 4th.
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On the very top of the page in the key updates section,
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they say quote,
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the percentage of specimens testing positive
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for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19,
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decreased slightly from last week.
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However, this past week included a holiday,
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which could impact both testing and reporting.
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Mortality attributed to COVID-19
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decreased compared to last week
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and is currently at the epidemic threshold
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but will likely increase
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as additional death certificates are processed.
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They're just making stuff up
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by misrepresenting things that are on this CDC update page
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while not offering the proper context that's on that page,
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which is called lying.
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There are other things that are on this page too
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that should worry people.
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I mean, there's a slight total decrease
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of national numbers for percentages of tests
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coming back positive,
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but there's a couple of regions in the country
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that are really pushing those numbers up.
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The South Central region,
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which covers Arkansas, Louisiana,
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New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas,
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were showing positive test rates of 16.8%.
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Also, the Southeastern region
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covering Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia,
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North and South Carolina, and Florida
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was reflecting a 14.1% positive rate.
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These dudes are just cherry picking
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whatever sort of out of context line they can find
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to help make their arguments,
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but the totality of the information
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on the very pages they link to as sources
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refute the things that they're saying.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Ugh.
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I mean, I don't know what to say
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other than these people need to be stopped.
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You can't say this on air.
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Yeah.
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You can't do it.
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I mean, I get,
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look, Constitution's already out the window.
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We lost that a while back.
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Interesting.
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You and I have a little slight disagreement
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about that, I suppose.
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If the Constitution was still in effect,
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it would be applied to people,
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and it doesn't seem to be doing so.
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So this shit is too dangerous.
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So in this next clip,
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Alex gets to talking about the big Supreme Court decision
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of the last week that gave Oklahoma,
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but large portion of Oklahoma,
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to the tribal lands.
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Oh no, what are we gonna say about this?
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He doesn't say all that much about it, actually.
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Oh, okay.
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Oh, that's all right.
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Yeah, but before he gets to it,
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he's sort of like teasing what's coming up.
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I got really excited about something that never pays off.
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We got Bohemian Grove news.
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The Supreme Court has handed over half of Oklahoma
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so they can defend a convicted child rapist.
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I'm not kidding.
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That's no joke.
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I have no idea what this Bohemian Grove news is.
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I just wrote Bohemian Grove news down
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because I was anticipating being distracted
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by whatever he's gonna go on with
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and then get back to it.
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But nope, nope.
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I heard that and I was like,
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fuck yes, Bohemian Grove news.
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Yeah, of course, Bohemian Grove news.
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In 2020, now I want Bohemian Grove news.
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What's up with Nolik?
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I don't think he ever gets to that.
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Oh, that's unfortunate.
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Now, as for the stuff about Oklahoma,
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his story is not true.
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Last week, the Supreme Court ruled five to four
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that about half of Oklahoma is technically Creek land
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and somewhat sovereign to the state of Oklahoma.
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It's really complicated,
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but essentially what will end up happening
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is if there's major crimes committed by a native person
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inside the area considered Creek territory,
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they cannot be tried by the state of Oklahoma.
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It has to be handled by the federal government.
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Smaller crimes like misdemeanors or civil matters,
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those involving native persons
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will be handled by tribal courts.
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According to NPR, this is already the case
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in large parts of Arizona, New Mexico, and Montana.
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This is not an attempt to protect someone
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who sexually assaulted a child,
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but it's easy to create that misinformation
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out of the case that led to the Supreme Court ruling.
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The case in question was McGirt versus Oklahoma,
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where Jim C. McGirt was a member of the Seminole Nation,
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was convicted of sex crimes against a child on Creek land.
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The appealing of the case
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was never about getting him acquitted.
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The argument was that the state of Oklahoma
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had no jurisdiction to try the case
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and he needed to be tried in federal court.
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Alex loves sovereignty,
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so you'd think he'd be in favor of it for others,
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but what a shock.
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He's trying to turn this story about a treaty
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between the United States government
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and the Creek people being honored
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into a story about protecting pedophiles.
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He's really getting to be a one-trick pony these days.
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What is he about to do, be like,
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and that's why we should reconquer half of Oklahoma
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in order to make sure
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that the Oklahoma state can enforce.
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He doesn't get to that point,
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but he's just trying to pretend
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that it's a thing where they're trying
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to get this guy off the hook
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by getting him into tribal courts that'll let him off.
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Whereas in reality, he'll be tried by a federal court
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and almost certainly convicted.
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It's really just more about honoring this treaty.
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Yeah, which is tough to get the American government
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to fucking do.
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Yeah, weird.
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Alex probably feels really bad
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about supporting Gorsuch now
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when Steve Patchenik told him not to.
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Anyway, now on the lighter side
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of the Infowars offerings for today in the news.
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When I talk about monkey see, monkey do,
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I meant to hit this yesterday.
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Guys, search engine this.
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Monkeys now adopting wearing mask in India,
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in Africa, in Southeast Asia,
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monkeys have all now been seen picking up mask
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out of trash piles and putting them on.
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Now we're a lot smarter than our fellow primate,
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these different types of monkeys that are doing this,
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but they think of humans as more advanced, as successful.
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They watch us closely.
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What are you doing?
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We drop food and stuff for them.
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Stop it.
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And they know that we're more advanced.
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So they're now putting the mask on.
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I think it's entirely possible that it's a coincidence
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that doesn't mean anything,
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that a couple of people might've seen monkeys
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putting on discarded masks.
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Kind of like when you see a crab holding a knife,
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or pizza rat.
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A rat with pizza.
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Yeah, exactly.
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No, that rat wasn't like, those people are so smart,
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this pizza must mean something.
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I was trying to get to the bottom
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of what Alex is talking about,
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and it appears that it's just a video from India
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where a monkey finds a scarf on the street
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and puts it over its head before doing a gesture,
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not unlike what you see people doing
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when they throw a scarf over their shoulder.
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Unfortunately, the monkey isn't very good at that move,
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and it ends up with the scarf over its face
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and kind of looks like a mask.
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It's a really cute video, and people love it.
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Did you know, did you know that there's a mainstream movie
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where a monkey wears a fez hat?
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Have you seen that?
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It's called Aladdin, it's incredible.
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So this kind of does illustrate a disturbing trend
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of monkeys, though they're mimicking our behavior.
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Yes.
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We all wear masks, and then to be like us,
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monkeys are doing it too.
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Because they know we're more advanced.
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The only problem with this theory
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is that the video has been reposted for at least a year,
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and it predates COVID-19.
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It went viral again after it was reposted
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by Sasanta Nanda of the Indian Forest Services,
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but it's not a new video.
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Also, I'm really interested in this theory
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that Alex has about monkeys copying our behaviors
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because they think we're successful.
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That's something I don't have anywhere near
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the amount of patience it would take to unpack,
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so I'm gonna leave the topic with this thought.
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For Alex Jones, work is basically just him
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seeing some kind of piece of viral content
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and then making up a story about it.
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Yes, correct.
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That's what he calls research.
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That's his job.
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That's basically all he does.
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Also, I think that monkeys would probably
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copy other behaviors.
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If they had a fundamental understanding of us.
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They started wearing shoes.
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Yeah, I feel like they'd have a stock market,
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like if they really liked our successfulness.
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I'm gonna give you a hint as to where I think
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Alex gets this information.
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I'm gonna go with this, and let me see
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if you can get the reference, all right?
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Damn you, you maniacs!
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It's possible.
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God damn you!
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Damn you all to hell!
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Seems likely.
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All right, that sounds about right.
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Yeah, so Alex, in his next clip,
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he takes responsibility for a decision that Trump made
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that I'm gonna present without comment,
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though I do think this could look real bad in hindsight.
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Trump, as I told you first, a month and a half ago,
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was gonna sideline Fauci.
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It happened two weeks later.
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They didn't even use the term sideline.
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Had that directly from the White House,
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that they got the message.
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I've advised the White House, destroy him.
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Destroy Gates, annihilate them.
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They've got the patents on the vaccines.
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They pre-planned it all.
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You're starting to see that come out.
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Trump's the real deal, folks,
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but he's gotta hit them now.
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He can't wait.
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So Alex is sort of giving the impression
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that his content getting to Trump has inspired him
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to sideline the sort of medical experts
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in the middle of a pandemic.
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I hope that doesn't end up looking real bad in the present
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or even worse in the future.
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So what you're saying is Alex is claiming
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to directly influence the removal of medical experts
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in the middle of a pandemic.
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Yep.
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Huh, I think that would be more
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of an admission of guilt, really.
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I do think it'll look pretty bad.
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Hey, it won't look good.
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So now Alex starts fantasizing about how Trump
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needs to have Fauci and Bill Gates murdered.
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Trump's the real deal, folks, but he's gotta hit them now.
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He can't wait.
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And he's the president.
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These are traitors working with China.
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I mean, hit them politically, president.
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As hard as you want, the American people will back it.
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Or maybe Fauci just goes away on a long trip,
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along with Bill Gates somewhere.
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Maybe they just vacation together someplace
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we'd never see him again, who knows?
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They're like Whitman, Price from the Dodd.
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Really?
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Society paid in full.
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Last season's winners.
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Let's continue.
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Man, Alex complains all the time about this idea
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of the Soviets disappearing people.
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Well, it's morally wrong to disappear people.
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I guess, but he's kind of wanting his enemies
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to go on a long camping trip.
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Well, that's because Trump is the real deal,
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and the real deal disappears people.
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I guess.
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I mean, it's just silly.
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So this morning, on the 10th, that morning,
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Alex was driving around or something,
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and he saw some joggers.
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Oh, God, we're gonna scream at joggers now?
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No, I don't know if he yells at them,
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but he does write a weird story about them.
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So this morning, I was doing errand.
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I was in a little strip center area.
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It was full of parking, so I park a little down the street
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by a residential area, and I get back in my car,
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and I see what looks like some joggers,
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walkers about 100 yards away.
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By the time I roll up the window and turn on the car,
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they're about 50 yards away, and I'm on my phone,
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taking a call, and I notice that they're waiting
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and pointing at me, but they've got a whole sidewalk
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and everything, and so I get off the phone,
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and I'm sitting there watching them,
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and I go, they look about like Chinese.
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They're wearing masks, Chinese man, Chinese woman,
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and they start walking down, pointing at me, angry.
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I didn't videotape it.
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I didn't want to antagonize them.
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Oh, sure.
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You hate antagonizing people.
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I was in a truck with the windows up,
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and it wasn't enough that I got in and had the windows up.
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They were social distancing, probably, you know,
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here working for a tech company, probably Chinese citizens,
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because their phones track them for every foot they are,
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and if they go buy another person,
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their social credit score goes down.
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So to them, it's like a big video game to follow the AI,
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to prepare themselves, and the AI is already in place.
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The public's just being told about it now.
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So to watch the next level of conformity,
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100 yards away, and then 50 yards away,
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stopping and waiting for me on a quiet street,
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looked like Mayberry.
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So it's interesting how many assumptions he makes
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in that story that are completely unfounded.
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Like, he decides that they must be Chinese citizens here
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working for a tech company,
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and they're used to being monitored by cell phone,
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and having their credit score go down,
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and so that's why they're pointing at him.
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I think it's entirely possible
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that they knew it was Alex Jones,
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and they're like, look at that fucking asshole,
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or something like that, or even like,
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let's take a benign version of it.
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Like, they just see him and they know who he is,
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and he's a famous person.
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Look, it's Alex Jones.
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There's a hundred explanations that have nothing to do
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with masks or social distancing at all,
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or if they are keenly aware of who he is,
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it could be a look out.
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Look out, we are minorities,
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and Alex Jones is in a truck.
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This could not go well.
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I just kept thinking during that story,
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like the next thing that Alex should say
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to some other human being is like,
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why do these walls have so many pads on them?
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Like, that's what you should say after that story.
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Like, that is an insane person.
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Well, all we have to go on is Alex's retelling of things,
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but let's look at the concrete things
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that happened in this story.
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Alex was in his truck.
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He saw a couple of people who pointed at him.
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Those are the only things that are concrete
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that aren't just his interpretation of what happened.
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Alex, a famous person, is in a truck,
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a large truck, of course,
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which would draw attention on its own.
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Certainly.
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People noticed him.
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He has a big old head, thick neck.
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The end.
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He's very easy to pick out of a crowd.
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I don't recall the Chinese government
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having anything to do with that,
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but I could be wrong.
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Well, I mean, this is one of those things.
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If I were Alex, I would call it a Rosetta Stone.
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The ways in which you can see,
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like the concrete facts of this story are thin.
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Most of the meat is just things that he's making up
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and imagining.
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Because this story is a zero on its own.
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And it's still a boring story.
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You're not wrong.
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Even with all the shit he's added into it, I was bored.
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You're not wrong.
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You're not wrong.
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It's a pretty bad story.
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Even with all the embellishments,
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all the tassels and bells on it,
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it's still really, really boring.
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This is why his stand-up did not go well.
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True.
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So Alex has learned that there's this guy
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named Nim Kidd.
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Okay.
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The rats of Nim Kidd?
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No, he's a Texas emergency division chief.
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And he did an interview that was discussing
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how there are instances where we might wanna be
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suggesting people wear masks at home.
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And Alex has taken this to be like,
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they're gonna force you to wear a mask at home.
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And so he plays this clip.
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But the reason I kept this in is that you can tell,
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Alex is very strategic about interrupting this clip.
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The man you always see standing behind him
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is Texas Chief Nim Kidd.
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You always see Nim Kidd behind
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the governor wearing his mask.
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And he says, do not leave your house without a mask,
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but also in your house, wear a mask
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because you're such a bad person.
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You're so evil, you're so dangerous.
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Here it is.
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Today is we need to do that when we're in our homes also.
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As you know, I'm a lifelong San Antonio
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and grew up there, worked there for many years.
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And I know how many multi-generational families that we have.
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And while we believe the community is doing a great job
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of following the rules when they're outside of the home,
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we really need to be thinking about doing the same thing
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when we're inside the home.
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And all of us are capable of catching this disease.
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None of us are immune from this.
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And the fact that we need to get across this
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in order to protect ourselves,
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we need to protect our families and our loved ones.
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We really need to be thinking about the care
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that we're providing inside the home right now
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to make sure that we're not spreading this disease
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inside the home and then making it come outside the house.
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So let me get this straight.
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What you're effectively saying is that
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people should be wearing masks inside their own homes now?
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Ryan, I'm saying if you can't socially distance
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and can't socially isolate,
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or if you've been out in public and exposing yourself
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and you haven't decontaminated yourself
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good enough when you get home,
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if you have someone that has underlying medical conditions
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at home, we really need to think about that.
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That's enough, turn this idiot off.
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Okay, if you want to know the road to hell,
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what it's paved with, it's paved with
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Reasonable.
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Texas Emergency Management System, NIM kid.
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Alex had to interrupt right then
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because he realized that it was making too much sense.
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And if he allowed the guy to talk any longer,
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it was going to be completely clear
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what he was talking about.
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Here's the version that Alex wants his audience to believe
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is what kid is saying.
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All you Texans need to wear masks when you leave the house
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and now also at home, we're mandating you to do this
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and if you don't submit, you'll be in trouble.
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However, the further that clip played,
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it became more clear that, you know,
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what he was saying made sense.
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Kid was not saying that anything about mandating people
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to wear masks at home is just a suggestion
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that people should consider.
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And it's not something that everyone needs to consider.
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It was a suggestion that was specific to people
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who are living in multi-generational homes
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and may have people in their house
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who are at a higher risk from the virus.
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If you're in such a household
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and you're not able to protect yourself
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when you go out in public,
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then it might be a good thing to consider
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to wear a mask inside to save your grandmother's life.
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This was a big slip up on Alex's part
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that could have easily been avoided
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if he did any preparation for his show.
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If he even gave a single shit about the things he covered,
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he would have pre-screened that clip
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and known where you need to turn it off
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so it doesn't contradict your narrative about it.
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You cut it off when the guy asks,
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so are you saying that we need to wear a mask in our house?
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Cut it off before that.
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And then you cut it off.
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Cut it off before that.
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Ah, fair.
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Yeah, I mean, like, it's embarrassing, that fuck up.
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It really is.
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But, you know, it's great.
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The way that Alex is able to get around that
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and try and, if you'll pardon the expression,
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mask his fuck up is by faking anger.
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Yep.
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And it's not.
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Oh, I'm so disgusted with this.
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Turn this guy off.
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I gotta get this terrible news out of my,
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oh, you don't want to kill me.
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Turn this guy off saying things that are unfortunately
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about to make sense.
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Yeah.
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And are starting to.
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Yeah.
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So there's a coup against Trump
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that's been the main thrust of this entire episode.
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Sure.
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And it's live.
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When we come back, I'll get into the coup plan
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against Trump that's now active and live,
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openly announced by Democrats.
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But first, we'll play the director
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of the UN Emergency Response Operation.
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His counterpart that wrote this up,
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he used to have an emergency in Texas,
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he gets his orders down through the CDC from the UN
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directly from Dr. Michael J. Ryan that says,
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we're coming to take your children, your parents.
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We're coming into your houses
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and this piece of trash is getting us ready for it.
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He hasn't even gotten the memo yet.
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In about a month.
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Silver has always been nature's very own animal bag.
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Oops.
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Ah, you suck.
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Bad, bad time management there.
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So Alex says he's going to play this clip
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and there's some nonsense that he said in my clip already,
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but I'll play Alex's thing here
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before getting into any of that.
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Here's the head of the UN Global Emergency Response
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to Disasters and Medical Crises, Dr. Ryan.
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And he is through the UN WHO, down through the NIH CDC,
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the state of Texas, who this man takes his orders from,
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the Texas Division of Emergency Management Head,
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Chief Nim Kidd, who says,
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don't leave your house without a mask
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and you need to wear one in your house.
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And then already in Australia, already in Spain,
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they begun coming to the houses,
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taking the families away, breaking them up.
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Here it is.
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And at the moment, in most parts of the world,
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due to lockdown, most of the transmission
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that's actually happening in many countries now
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is happening in the household at family level.
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In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets
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and pushed back into family units.
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Now we need to go and look in families
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to find those people who may be sick and remove them
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and isolate them in a safe and dignified manner.
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So first things first, the UN Emergency Management people
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are not in charge of the Texas Division
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of Emergency Management.
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Sure.
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There's a lot of local jurisdictional focus
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in terms of the Texas emergency planning structure
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and it gets a little messy,
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but ultimately it all goes back to the governor.
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I was able to find the 2020 Texas Emergency Management
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structure document, which discusses
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the Texas Emergency Management Council.
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This is quote, composed of state agencies
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and non-governmental organizations
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appointed by the governor.
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The council was established to advise and assist
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the governor in all matters related to disaster mitigation,
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preparedness, response, and recovery.
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This has no formal connection to the body
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that Dr. Michael Ryan is the executive director of,
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which is the World Health Organization
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Health Emergencies Program.
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That clip that Alex played probably sounds kind of scary,
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but Alex is taking it entirely out of context.
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This is from a media briefing on the virus from March 30th
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and the particular steps that Dr. Ryan describes
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are not relevant to our situation at all.
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In the full context of his comments,
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Ryan is discussing a monitoring methodology
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that could be put in place if cases
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went down to very low numbers.
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If you only have a few cases identified a day,
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a state or country could have the ability
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to trace their contacts and monitor them for symptoms
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and if someone gets sick, provide them with a safe place
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to quarantine away from the home
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so they don't get other people sick
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and keep spreading the disease.
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If you listen to the full response to this question,
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he even says that it isn't something
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you can really do effectively
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when you have thousands of cases a day
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and the US has been currently tracking
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over 50,000 new cases a day,
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so it's pretty safe to say that most of the country
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is not in a position where anything Dr. Ryan was saying
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back in March is relevant.
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Dr. Ryan was talking about what a country could do
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once it has pushed transmission off the streets
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and into the homes.
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The tragedy of Alex lying about this stuff
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is that we're nowhere near that point.
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Nope.
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So, I don't know.
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I mean, you can get scared about this out of context clip
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of this World Health Organization guy
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or you can recognize that it has nothing to do
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with the situation we're in.
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It seems like he's dealing with a serious,
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like a pot committed kind of fallacy there
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or it's just like, hey, I've been denying this for so long,
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even though the evidence is now completely undeniable,
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I have to double down.
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Otherwise, I'm gonna look like a moron.
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Yeah, it's tough.
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Even though I am a moron, I don't wanna look like one.
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That would make me feel bad.
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That would feel bad.
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It would feel bad.
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Yep.
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So, Alex still hasn't gotten to his big top story,
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which is the coup against Trump.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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That's still supposed to be coming.
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Of course.
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And so, maybe we'll get to it.
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I've got Savannah Hernandez and Owen Troyer
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who are on fire coming in here.
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Oh my God.
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I haven't gotten to my top story yet, so.
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What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do this right now.
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I'm gonna mention this.
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I'm gonna hit this coming out of the gates at six after.
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They'll be in studio with me.
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We'll talk about this at first
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and we'll move into the subjects they're on, but.
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You understand, I've got a stack of news articles
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and video clips where they're officially saying
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how they're gonna have a coup against the president
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physically with the US military.
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Dan is holding a knife as we speak
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in order to hammer home the concept.
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Goldman Sachs article where Goldman Sachs
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came out yesterday.
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Goldman Sachs says election will be contested.
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I need that please.
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It was a Reuters article.
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So.
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Oh man, I tell you, there's just so much of this.
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I can't even keep track of it anymore.
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So that's coming up briefly.
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You want to fund this operation?
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You want to get great products at the same time.
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Now's the time to do it.
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I can't possibly imagine doing such a shitty job
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and then still insisting on begging the audience for money.
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Isn't he working?
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It's happening.
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Alex hasn't gotten to his top story,
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so he's gonna tease it,
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but he doesn't have the right piece of paper
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in front of him, so the show just grinds to a halt
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and he decides this is a good time to do an ad.
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Alex's entire thing with Goldman Sachs attacking Trump
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would probably make more sense
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if Trump hadn't made former Goldman Sachs executive
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Steve Mnuchin the Secretary of the Treasury.
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His campaign hadn't been run by former Goldman Sachs
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employee Steve Bannon,
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and his original chief financial advisor
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wasn't former Goldman Sachs COO Gary Cohn.
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Well, this goes on and on.
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Unrelated information, Dan.
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There's no conflict between Trump and Goldman Sachs
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despite what Alex might want to pretend.
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This article that Alex can't remember anything about
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has to do with Goldman Sachs advising investors
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to hedge their positions through the end of the year
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since they predict market volatility around the election.
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They're not predicting a contested election
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the same way Alex is trying to use the term
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where both candidates say that they're the rightful winner.
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Goldman Sachs is saying that there are certain variables
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in play which could delay the announcement of a winner
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which could lead to some market fluctuation.
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They cite increases in mail-in ballots,
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the time it takes to count those,
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and the virus possibly affecting voting schedules
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as reasons to be a cautious investor.
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There were a bunch of ups and downs in the five weeks
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between the 2000 election and the Supreme Court
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naming Bush the winner,
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and this is more or less just a financial business
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advising investors that some similar shit
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is probable this year.
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This is just short of proof of a coup,
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but I guess if that's how Alex wants to play things,
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that's what he's gonna play.
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I mean, if there was a coup, Goldman Sachs
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is on Trump's team.
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Like, what are we talking here?
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Come on, man. Seems like it.
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So Alex brings in Owen and Savannah Hernandez.
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They are on fire, though, correct?
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They've been put out since.
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I mean, they were not burning when they were on fire.
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This is a computer chip in a homeless person situation
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all over again.
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If you say Owen Troyer's on fire,
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I want burning Troyer.
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You want flames.
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I want flames!
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Flambé Troyer.
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Absolutely.
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No, instead you just get him sort of
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kind of talking about how maybe we should murder people.
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Oh, okay.
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What I think they may do, though,
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they may have television media come on
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the night of the election and say,
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oh, Biden won, Biden won, even though Trump did win,
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and they'll just have the whole censorship grid rolled out
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just like they did with COVID.
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They'll stop, just like they stop any doctors
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from talking about hydroxychloroquine
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or stop any doctors from talking about the fake tests.
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Exactly.
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This has all been a dress rehearsal
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for stealing the election
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and having big tech AI totally suppress it all.
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And then, so they'll come in and they'll say,
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oh, Biden won, Biden won.
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And then Trump will say, no, Biden didn't want it.
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Then it'll be the president versus the media.
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Just, that'll be the playing field.
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You know, our question now, Alex, is,
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we basically have three options.
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One option is attack.
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And I mean, literally, like it's time to mount up
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and we'll go make our own autonomous zone
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and we'll drag these Democrats out
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by the scruff of their neck.
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Yeah, the autonomous zones will be inside the Capitol.
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Yeah, and so that's one.
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We can attack, we can do that.
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Two is patience.
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We can sit back and wait and see,
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okay, let's see what happens in the election night.
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Let's hope for a good thing, maybe a big red wave,
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a bunch of patriots get into Congress
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and we can actually do this peacefully and politically.
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And then the third option is retreat.
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Go to the hills, mount up, get emergency food,
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get by a body of water, get by, you know, a mountain,
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get a bunch of guns and ammo.
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Well, I'm doing both.
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So, but- Just do three.
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Philosophical thing we have to wonder now is,
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for example, if we want to attack
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or if we want to wait, at what point do we measure?
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At what point do we have to choose
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before we've had the choices taken?
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Ooh, huh.
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I mean, obviously the answer was when Bolsonaro
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tested positive for COVID-19, you giant bunch of cowards.
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This is pathetic, this really is.
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I have no fear of these people.
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If they were going to pull off any of this bullshit,
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they've already hit all the benchmarks.
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Well, I know that is a hallmark of Alex's broadcast style,
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but simultaneously people do get hurt periodically.
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So it's not like, you know, it's not harmless.
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No, no, no, no, totally, I get that.
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And, you know, the way that the world
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has gotten more and more insane over the past six months,
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you know, it does tend itself,
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I feel like there's more danger than normal.
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But generally, I agree with you.
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No, I agree that this is more bark than bite.
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Yeah, totally.
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But at the same time, I am not comfortable
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with the extent to which these conversations
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are just super normalized.
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Right, I know, but again, why are these people
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so fucking stupid, we can't outsmart them
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just because they're murderers?
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It's not about a fear of Owen doing anything.
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No, of course not.
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It's the unknown person who listens to Owen.
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They're stochastic terrorists, yeah.
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You're not worried about, yeah, I get it.
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Now, one thing that I think is really interesting
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is it appears that Owen is a little bit
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over Trump's bullshit.
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Interesting. It seems to me
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like he's coming from a position of like,
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yeah, look, he's not going to do it.
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He's not gonna do the things we want.
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And Alex doesn't seem thrilled with that.
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If Trump wants to let them steal the election from Trump,
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okay, fine, that's Trump's decision.
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We're not gonna let them take our country, so.
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They've already told us the contact tracers
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are coming to our houses.
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And they go, oh, by the way, they're gonna be political.
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They're the youth brigades Obama wanted.
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This is their whole rollout.
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Hey, we wanna be on the field.
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We wanna be on the front lines.
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We are the tip of the spear.
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Trump has let them censor us.
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Trump has let them lie about us,
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sue us into submission.
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We're still fighting.
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So hey, at the end of the day,
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are we fighting for Trump or are we fighting for America?
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I'm fighting for America.
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Let's be clear, but Trump is there for us.
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She's doing a great job,
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but all the points she made are great.
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So.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Oh boy.
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That's a little bit weird.
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The two of them are not on the same page, really.
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Uh-oh, Schreuer is starting to lean more
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towards the Fuentes wing of the
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let's murder everybody party.
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It seems like he is in the, like,
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Trump's not gonna do it, and that could,
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we'll see where that goes.
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Yeah.
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See how long he can rationalize working
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for the company that he works for.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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So Savannah Hernandez comes in,
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and she's got some dumb shit to say about how, like,
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oh, all these ideas that Trump's not gonna leave office,
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it's just because of Hillary.
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They've been laying the groundwork for this
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since Trump got into office.
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Hillary Clinton has already come out so many times
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and said that, well, what if Trump loses in 2020?
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He's not going to leave the White House.
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So she's been already laying the groundwork,
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playing the seats for this.
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It's all good and well to talk about people like Hillary
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raising concerns about Trump not leaving office,
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but you're kind of being dishonest if you don't point out
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that Trump has a long history of, quote, unquote,
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joking about how he's not gonna leave office.
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Yeah.
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There was that speech he gave in December 2019
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at the Israeli-American Council National Summit
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where he said, quote,
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when they all scream four more years, four more years,
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I always say make it 12 years and you'll drive them crazy.
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Or there was his tweet from June 2019, quote,
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a poll should be done on which is the more dishonest
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and deceitful newspaper, the failing New York Times
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or the Amazon lobbyist Washington Post.
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They are both a disgrace to our country,
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the enemy of the people,
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but I can't seem to figure out which is worse.
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The good news is at the end of six years
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after America has been made great again
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and I leave the beautiful White House, parentheses,
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do you think the people would demand that I stay longer?
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There you go.
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Keep America great.
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Hey.
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Both of these horrible papers will quickly go out of business
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and be forever gone.
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Or there was the closed door speech
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that he gave in front of Republican donors at Mar-a-Lago
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in March 2018 where he discussed how the president of China
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just gave himself a lifetime post, quote,
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he's now president for life.
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President for life.
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No, he's great.
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And look, he was able to do that.
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I think it's great.
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Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday.
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A Slate article has a listing of at least 27 times
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Trump has made comments about how he should get
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more than two terms since he's taken office.
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Yeah.
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This is not a normal thing for a human to do.
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No.
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There's a couple of reasons why someone would act like this
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and I'll get to that in a second.
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But first, I think it's important to point out
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that there is a massive difference between the behavior
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of someone like Hillary and someone like Trump
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in this circumstance.
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Hillary is not a person who's able to make any real decision
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in this situation.
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She's a commentator who's expressing concern
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that a person will make a very bad decision.
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Conversely, Trump is the decision maker.
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Legitimately, he's the only person
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who can decide whether or not to throw this country into
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an even deeper existential crisis
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when the election results come in.
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He alone is either able to accept or reject
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a win or a loss and the ramifications of that choice
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are almost impossible to overstate.
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When Hillary discusses these concerns,
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she's well within her right to do so
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and you're welcome to have your opinion about her opinion.
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When Trump quote unquote jokes about insisting
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on staying in office after two terms,
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he's joking about something that is within his power,
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whether you believe he'd be able to pull it off or not.
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He has the ability to cause the damage
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that a president not accepting the results of an election
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would cause and what he's doing is not joking.
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There are only two possible explanations
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I can really come up with for why Trump
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would so consistently joke about this.
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The first is to piss off his political opposition.
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In that case, we have a president who's such a dick
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that he'll create the impression that he wants
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to overturn basic institutional norms
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in order to troll people.
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That alone is disqualifying for a person to be a leader,
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let alone someone worth taking seriously.
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The other possibility is that Trump thinks
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he should be president for life.
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I don't think you can really, but what about Hillary this?
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I don't think that's...
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I don't know, but what about Hillary?
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You should get a job at Infowars.
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See, there we go.
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I think I could crush it.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip,
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Owen soft pitches the idea of storming the Capitol.
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We already sort of talked about it in that last clip of his,
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but he wants...
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The autonomous zone is in the Capitol,
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that's what he's saying, yeah.
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He wants 50,000 armed people to storm the Capitol.
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Oh, that'd be nice.
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I'll be honest, Alex, I think about this.
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I think about, you know, is it time for Alex Jones
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and Infowars to declare war on the deep state
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and literally say, okay, if we don't have arrests
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by October 31st, 2020, we call for 50,000 armed men
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to meet us at the Texas Capitol
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and we'll set up our own autonomous zone
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and we'll go wherever we need to go
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and drag out whoever we need to drag out
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by the scuff of their neck until we start to get some arrests
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or we start to get some action.
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I don't wanna do that.
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I know you don't wanna do that.
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That's why we take political action.
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That's why we come on air every day,
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but it's reaching a point where, yeah,
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there's an active coup going on.
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I think you come on air every day to fantasize
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about doing stuff like that.
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I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you're saying.
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Hey, listen, I don't wanna do the thing
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that for the past six months I've been screaming
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how great it would be to do,
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but you know, if they don't do it,
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they're gonna have to make me do the thing
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that, again, I explicitly do not absolutely want to do
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and have been saying that I should do
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for the past six months. Now, I said Halloween
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because it's the only night we have a chance.
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It is.
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That we can all be dressed up.
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As we know, Samhain is also when the planets align,
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giving us the power to break into homes easily.
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Yeah, yeah, I like it.
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Yeah.
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I think this is a good plan.
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I don't think it's a good plan.
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You don't think so?
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I think it's pretty scary.
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Also, I love the idea of him like,
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is it time for us to declare war on the deep state?
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How many fucking times has Alex yelled about that?
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Alex said that the deep state
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was poisoning Trump's fucking cokes.
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That was like three years ago.
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Yeah, you guys declared war on the deep state.
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Oh, God.
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So, we know that later this evening on the 10th,
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Roger gets his sentence clemenced.
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Clements?
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Clements?
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Whatever.
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Alex-
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Roberto Clemenced is what they say.
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But on the show that day, Alex lets something slip.
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I know whether Trump's giving him a pardon or not.
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I've been asked not to say.
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I'll just tell you, the Drudge Report headline's
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very accurate right now.
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You put it back on screen.
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Developing Trump to pardon Stone.
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Well, yeah.
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Yeah, you see.
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I love how I always have to wait
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and I'll get the break stuff,
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even though I know it, a week ago.
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I mean, as of a week ago,
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Trump is gonna pardon the president.
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But, I mean, Trump is gonna pardon Stone.
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First of all, Alex was wrong.
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Roger didn't get a pardon.
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He got clemency, which is different.
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Clemency just reduces the penalty for a conviction,
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but the crime is still on a person's record.
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So, Roger's still a convicted felon.
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If Trump legitimately thought that Roger was wrongly
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convicted, he would have pardoned him.
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But he didn't, because that would probably be too messy.
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And I don't even think William Barr
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would have had his back on that.
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I think that would.
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It totally would.
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Maybe, I don't know.
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Clemency is a perfect middle road for corrupt shitheads.
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Cause then Roger doesn't have to go to prison
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and you don't have to open up the box
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of what could happen if you pardon him.
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It's already happened.
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The box was opened a long time ago.
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According to you.
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Other people might have different lines.
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That's fair.
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I'm just arguing that Miller's entire prosecution was,
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you know, when that was just swept under the rug by Barr,
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I think that was more the pardoning stone
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wouldn't have been the one that did it.
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Accepting that stealing a complete election is fine
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is probably where the box was opened for me.
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I think the difference between those things
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is this is such a more of a discrete act.
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You know, like the stuff with Mueller and all that is very,
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there's a lot of ins and outs.
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There's a lot of complexity to it.
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Whereas this is quite simple.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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I think you could make a really easier to digest
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argument about pardoning Roger.
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Fair.
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For trying to intimidate a witness to not testify
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in a case that had to do with him trying to
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circumvent the law in order to help Trump's campaign.
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I think it's a little easier to be like,
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this is the clearest case of corruption.
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But I don't disagree with you on a human level.
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Right, right, right.
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I think that that's probably my favorite part of this
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is how much of a chump Mueller is.
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Like this entire, like him pardoning.
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Stone was the easiest conviction he had
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and that was ripped away from him.
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Well, they got it.
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Mueller is the worst.
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He has failed in every possible way.
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It's hilarious to me.
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I'm not standing up for him or anything like that,
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but I am going to say that he did everything he could
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in terms of-
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Oh, did he?
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Well, in terms of Roger.
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Yeah.
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They got the conviction.
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Maybe.
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They got the conviction.
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Oh yeah, you're right.
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You're right in terms of Roger.
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That's not on him.
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No, no, no, but that's why it's even funnier
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because Trump made him look like a chump again.
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It's pathetic.
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He should really be embarrassed.
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So the larger thing that I think here is that
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if Alex knew that Trump was going to pardon Roger
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for the last week, what's his excuse for engaging
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in the absurd and embarrassing radio play
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about how Roger is going to die in jail
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because he's such a hero, you know, all that shit.
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If the whole point was to plead his case to Trump
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for the pardon and you already knew it was coming,
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that kind of makes the whole thing seem like an act.
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Almost like if you were just building up to the payoff
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that you knew was coming.
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What better way to heighten the drama of a pardon
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than to pretend it might not come?
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Just to juice the ratings.
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Absolutely.
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If Alex knew for a week,
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then there's no other explanation for his behavior
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than trying to will they, won't they?
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Trying to increase drama and tension
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in order to raise ratings.
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Well, I mean-
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That's indefensible.
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How many people are going to tune into
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all of those different shows that Stone was just on,
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that he just happened to start going on really frequently
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in the past couple of weeks?
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And everybody's going to tune in.
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Is tonight the night that Stone announces
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he's been pardoned?
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Well, you know.
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I think you know.
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Good for him.
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You know.
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Good for him.
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So in this next clip, Owen,
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he starts talking some more about his enemies.
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Sure.
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Imagined enemies.
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Well, Alex believes that all these people
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who are out protesting their enemies.
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Of course.
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They were hired by someone.
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Owen has a slightly different stance on it
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that I actually think is worse.
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It's weird because you can say there's enemies of freedom,
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but that's not to me the correct psychological approach
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because I don't sit here and see them as my enemy.
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I don't see them as an enemy of freedom.
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I think if you ask them, they want to be free too,
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just like anybody else.
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But what they've become-
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Here's the hammer.
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Unwittingly is obstacles of freedom.
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They have become obstacles of freedom.
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And as soon as Americans are willing to fight
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for their freedom, like you said, Alex, it's a trap.
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You're now an obstacle.
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You're going to get run over.
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Use the cars running these people over in the streets
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as a physical example.
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Now, and then Alex, we were talking off air.
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The problem is they've got the whole left wing activists
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in control of all the justice.
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So, you know, 10,000 people can be surrounding your vehicle,
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threatening to kill you,
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smashing the windows and everything.
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And if you plow through it, you're the bad guy.
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That's right, they got the corporations,
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they got the judges, they got the media.
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Now all over the place, Black Lives Matter
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can beat people up, kill them.
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But if somebody fights back now,
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they're being charged everywhere.
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So that's a very interesting way
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for Owen to dehumanize his opposition
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and take away any reason to care about what they say,
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what their positions are,
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or even pretend that they have any agency.
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They aren't enemies.
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They have political goals or points.
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They're merely obstacles.
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The two sides that exist in this narrative
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are Alex and his team, who are supposedly the good guys.
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Then there are the globalists, who are the bad guys.
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Everyone who doesn't agree with Alex,
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like let's say someone who might demonstrate
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for reproductive rights or protest against ICE,
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they aren't people with real positions
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or thought out convictions.
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They're just zombies who've been brainwashed
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by the globalists and they're not the enemy.
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They're just obstacles to be run over.
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All they are is in the way.
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Yep, the info warrior, the info warrior,
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are the only people who actually are on a path
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that involves making choices or having agency,
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which naturally leads to some pretty sickening conclusions.
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This is the same mentality that Alex expresses all the time
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when he talks about how killing a globalist
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is like killing a bug.
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You don't wanna do it, but sometimes you have to.
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That kind of rhetoric and the sort of thing
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that Owen is expressing here
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are means of giving tacit permission
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to enact violence on your political enemies
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by reducing them to being human obstacles.
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Recently, USA Today reported that since May 27th,
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there have been at least 66 instances of protesters
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being hit by cars.
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Undoubtedly, not all of these
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were cold-blooded attempted murders,
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but at least some of them definitely were.
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Seven of the incidents were police hitting protesters
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in just over a month.
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That's a short period of time.
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At least two of these people have been killed
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and countless others have been hurt
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and traumatized by these events.
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This is not something that deserves to be mocked,
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even if you disagree with the politics
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of the people who are being targeted by these attacks.
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I wholeheartedly despise Trump and his dumb rallies,
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but if there had been 66 instances of Trump supporters
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being hit by cars at his rallies since May 27th,
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I would absolutely show some reverence to the subject
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and entertain the possibility that something had gone wrong
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with the opposition to Trump,
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the messaging of that movement,
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if people thought that running civilians over with cars
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was an appropriate way to voice your political opposition.
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And Alex and Owen can sit here and play the game
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where they pretend that these people
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are all just looters and rioters
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who are threatening the people in the cars
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who hit them in self-defense,
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but even they know that's bullshit.
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On some level, these dudes know that what they're doing
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is trying to help normalize the enacting of lethal violence
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against their political rivals.
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And that's why Alex talks about helicopter rides.
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That's why he talks about how his listeners
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can be instruments of God's vengeance.
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There's a concerted effort of dehumanization
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of political enemies and of normalizing the conversation
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of enacting violence on this show
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to a level that I'm consistently uncomfortable with.
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Yeah, that was, if Schroyer and I are drunk in a bar
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and he says that, that's when you take a swing at somebody.
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It's just like, look, no, I'm done, no, no.
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Those are fighting words? Done, I'm out.
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I'm out, however, I'll leave, you'll leave,
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I just, this is fucked.
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This is too fucked.
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That's just too fucked.
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Yeah, it's a mess.
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Yikes.
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So Owen starts talking about how these people
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in the New York Police Department, the detectives,
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what they need to do is they need to release
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all of the dirt that they actually have on Hillary
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and all this evidence that she chopped up babies and stuff.
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Cool, go for it.
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Now, that part, I mean, whatever.
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I don't care about what Owen's saying,
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but I think this is the first instance,
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like where I think Alex is drunk.
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I think he might've gotten drunk
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in the middle of this show.
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You think he might've kicked it up a notch?
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Yeah.
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I really think that the New York cops
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and the New York FBI that are good people
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but are actually going through the process of this,
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it's time to just release it.
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It's time to release the way they like now.
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That's right, no more waiting around,
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the gloves are off, they broke all the rules.
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Just burn them, burn, burn, burn.
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We've made the steps, we're totally attacking.
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Burn, attack, catch it, yeah.
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Whether America can handle it or not,
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there's only one way to find out.
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Yeah, let's just get it going here.
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There is a real change in his dynamic.
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And part of it could just be trying to do a bro down
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with Owen.
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It's tough to tell, but I also heard some clinking noises
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that sounded, and who knows, could be a coffee mug.
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He strikes me as possibly drunk at this point.
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And that's only furthered, my suspicions are only furthered
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by the fact that he does a Jeff Foxworthy.
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Oh no.
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Are they a Democrat?
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You ever heard like, might be a redneck if you do this.
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Might be a, might be a pedophile if you're a Democrat.
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Sorry, go ahead.
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So, anyway.
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Shh, you guys are great.
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Yeah.
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Have you heard of this, have you heard of this,
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you might be a redneck?
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Have you heard of this overdone joke structure
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that has permeated all of, not just America, but the world.
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I really think Alex listens to our show too,
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because we did a,
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Did we do that recently?
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We did a, you might be a, you might be in a tyranny.
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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We did that a couple episodes back.
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Makes me think he's probably listening.
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Oh, that son of a bitch.
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Maybe, maybe not.
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So, Alex gets to talking about the 7277 memorandum, 7277.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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The thing that was about disarming the Soviet Union
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and the United States during the Cold War
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to avoid a nuclear war that Alex believes
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is about actually taking his gun away,
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which it's not, and never was.
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Seven plus two is nine.
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Nine plus 14.
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That's 666.
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Yep, yep.
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Well, I stand corrected.
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So, Alex talks about this a little bit,
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and we know that he believes,
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like he knows that it's on the CIA's website,
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and we've talked about that in the past,
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but when Alex, I can't even explain this ahead of time,
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but this was one of the more disturbing clips I've heard.
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Not because he's saying anything fucked up,
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but just because the amount of stupid he has to be
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if he actually thinks this is out of control.
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I've been studying the United Nations
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and who set it up and how it operates for a long time.
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I know a lot of you have as well.
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And they tried to launch plans back in the 60s
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to disarm the military and the police
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and then only have a UN force around the world.
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And a lot of people ended up,
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you know, in the government,
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quietly having to be gotten rid of
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to stop that at that point.
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And you go to the CIA website
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and look up State Department of Random 7277.
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You type in State Department of Random 7277,
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you'll notice it'll pop up on Wikipedia
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and places like that,
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but you can actually go to the CIA has got a flyer
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from 1963 about FBI agents and CIA operatives
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that were creating a newsletter called On Target
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about a list of people in the government
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that they were planning to kill
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if they continue to go along with the plan.
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So the government knows all about this ongoing battle.
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So we've talked a ton about memorandum 7277 in the past,
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so there's no need to rehash that.
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We've also talked about this page on cia.gov
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that Alex has found about the memo
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and how it's not a CIA product.
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It's the copy of a newsletter that he wrote
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it's the copy of a newsletter called On Target
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which was produced by the Minutemen.
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This is intensely disturbing to hear Alex say
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that the operatives for the CIA and FBI
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were creating On Target because that's not true.
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It was the publication of a violent,
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aggressively anti-communist militia group.
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The Minutemen were an organization
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out of my home state of Missouri
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founded by a real dickhead named Robert DePue.
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He also was the person who wrote the On Target newsletter.
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Of course.
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After gaining financial stability
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by inventing a dog vitamin,
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DePue lost his shit in the early days
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of the Red Scare Cold War paranoia.
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He set up shot in Norborn, Missouri
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and started putting out his newsletters,
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hoping to find like-minded patriots.
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He gained a small following
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who he trained in paramilitary tactics.
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He constantly exaggerated the size of his movement
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which was then repeated by people in the media
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which lent his group an outsized sense of relevance
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than it probably deserved.
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Sure.
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When you're a lone anti-communist wacko,
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it's all good and well for you to accuse everyone
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of being a communist and then say
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they deserve to be killed or whatever.
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When you start to create an image
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of holding sway over a large following
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and you're also building weapons caches
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and doing military training,
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then you're gonna attract law enforcement attention
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with that kind of behavior.
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Sooner or later you would hope, yeah.
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DePue was not a mastermind
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and thus the FBI was able to infiltrate his group
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and found that he had a bunch of illegal weapons
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hidden in various spots for a war
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that was coming against the communists.
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Hi, Mr. DePue, I am John T. Minutemen.
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I was wondering, where do you keep your weapons caches?
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Oh, right over there?
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Oh, oh, damn it.
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He was convicted in 1967
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of National Firearms Act violations
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but fled before being sent to jail.
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After two years, he was captured
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and sent to prison for four years.
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According to the Columbia Daily Tribune,
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according to multiple reports,
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agents found him holding two former Minutemen,
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a man and a woman, in confinement crates
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because he believed they were traitors.
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In 1991, he was arrested on child pornography charges
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that stemmed from an alleged modeling shoot
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he had with a teenage girl, but he was not convicted.
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Just to let you know, he would have been 68 at that point
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and not a photographer.
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Another thing about Robert DePue
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is that he was big on naming names
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or as some might put it, making kill lists.
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This was part of the reason that that issue of On Target
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is part of the documents included in the CIA reading room
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because they had it on file
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as a part of monitoring his activities
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because he was making hit lists of politicians
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and private individuals that he had decided were communists
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and he was publishing their names and addresses.
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The subtitle of this newsletter is, quote,
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Words Won't Win, Action Will.
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The thing that's particularly disturbing to me
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is that I think from the way Alex is talking,
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it sounds like he legitimately thinks
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that this document was made by good guys in the government
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who were trying to warn the patriots
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about globalists and their rank.
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That's really fucked up
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because that's not what this is at all.
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And if Alex knew anything about the subject he talks about,
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it's every reason to know that.
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Yeah, wow.
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Alex thinks that this basically doxing kill list
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that was put out by an anti-communist militia leader in 1963
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is the good guys in the government
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telling all these people about who the globalists are.
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Right, right, right.
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Well, I mean, Order 66 was the good guys in the government
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getting rid of all those globalist fucking Jedi.
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I, my mind had a hard time processing that clip.
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Alex saying that that is, because here's what I think.
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What?
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I think that Alex doesn't understand
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why that document would be on the CIA's reading room
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if it wasn't created, it has to have been created by the CIA.
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That's really, that's a good point.
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I think that's why Alex thinks it was CIA,
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instead of it being part of a dossier
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that they put together because they were observing him,
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because he was a dangerous dude.
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Yeah, see, that didn't occur to me
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because it's too stupid to believe that.
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That's what I was saying before the clip.
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The stupidness that this implies.
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That's insane.
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Yeah.
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That's beyond.
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Now, the other possibility that I run into
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when I think about this is that Alex knows
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that it was a crazy militia leader guy.
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And he's trying to re-up the image.
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Or trying to sugarcoat it a little bit.
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Because he's a secret good guy in the government.
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He's not, though.
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No, no, no, no.
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Although, you know what his problem was?
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If he'd come around like 40, 50 years later,
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he's got Duck Dynasty on A&E, you know?
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He invented the dog pill or whatever it is.
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He left the veterinary arts.
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Yeah.
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Give him a reality TV show.
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So, this gets messy, the 10th.
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Yeah.
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Alex has Dan Lyman from Europe Wars.
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And he's visiting the studio.
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And that has allowed me to get another great clip.
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Dan, is there a war on Western civilization?
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No, there's not.
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But he has Dan Lyman in.
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And they're supposedly supposed to be talking about
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how there's gonna be a lot of migrants in Europe.
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You know, they're anti-migrant, anti-immigrant rhetoric.
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You know?
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Gotta do it.
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Hate the non-whites.
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This gets very much into the ADL.
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Oh.
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It's weird.
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There is a preoccupation with the ADL surrounding the,
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it's supposed to just be about
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how there's going to be a lot of migrants
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coming into countries.
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Sure, boilerplate stuff.
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Right, it's what you expect from these
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sort of xenophobic dicks.
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It's almost entirely complaining about the ADL
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in ways that are very uncomfortable.
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And Alex insists, oh God, I don't even know
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how to set this up.
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So I don't think the ADL represents Jews.
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There are a lot of good Jews.
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I've had Jews help me out with things.
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Band out videos designed by a guy from Israel.
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Great guy, he didn't like us being censored.
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Helped us build it.
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And it was like, here, it's done, have it.
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I mean, there's so many examples.
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I'm not gonna have the ADL trick me into hating Jews
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because they make money off that.
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Whoa.
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Oh boy, oh boy.
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So that's interesting.
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Alex refuses to, okay.
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I don't even care to unpack this
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because they start talking and I immediately start
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to understand why this is happening
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in the middle of their conversation about migrants.
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Because Nazis won World War II?
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Let's continue here.
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Let me give people a little preview of what's coming up.
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Macron, enabler of the Carnegie Plan,
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200 million Africans will live in Europe
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after 30 years of migration.
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This is the connective tissue.
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The belief of the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory
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about the clergy plan is about a rich cabal of Jews
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that want to replace white men and white people
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with non-white people from foreign countries.
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That is the immigration angle that's being discussed here
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and that's why there is so much anger at the ADL
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that's being mixed in here.
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Because their view of immigration
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is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory
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that all chases back to basically this clergy plan stuff.
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But they gotta, you know, they gotta update it.
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But they still don't wanna lose the,
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you know, the plan was still,
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the clergy plan is still a good propaganda tool.
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We just can't all hate Jews all the time now.
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We gotta update it.
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So the guy who sets up my website, cool Jew.
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That was a bad performance.
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So that's the sort of stuff that's going on
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on the day that Roger gets clemency.
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Great day, really got it out there.
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So we come back on Saturday now.
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I think Alex was drunk that night.
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I think he kept drinking probably.
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Kept it going.
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Yeah, I would assume.
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Had a nice little fun time.
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I would assume so.
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Maybe that's why he wasn't able
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to get something out on Friday night.
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Yeah, it could be.
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So we get to Saturday
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and Alex puts out this emergency broadcast.
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Welcome, thank you so much for joining us
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on this Saturday, July 11th,
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emergency global afternoon transmission.
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We're shooting this out on all the radio and TV affiliates
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and the feeds at Band On Video.
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I fucking love the idea that he's like,
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oh, we cut in on the...
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We cut in on our regularly scheduled,
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not broadcasting to...
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All the radio stations around the country
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that air my show, I can just hit a button
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and we override them like the national weather alert system.
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Yeah, Alex has that button.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah, right.
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Yep, has that power.
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So I mean, hey, here we are.
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And I gotta say, Saturday, Roger just got clemency.
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Yes.
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What do you expect?
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You gotta dance, you gotta dance,
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you gotta dance and you gotta tell me
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that this is complete vindication
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and the only reason that it didn't get a full pardon
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is so he can challenge the conviction in court.
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Right, Roger has said that in other venues.
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Yes.
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I'm talking more concretely.
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Okay.
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From a show standpoint,
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what do you expect to be on this episode?
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Roger Stone.
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That's interesting.
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Now, here's who Alex's first guest is.
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Coming up in this hour plus long transmission,
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we're scheduled to have Man Cal Muller,
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who spent the last long time friend of mine
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syndicated talk show last week with Roger
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to give him support, a lot of exclusive videos,
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interviews with Roger, we're gonna premiere.
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Man Cal's already sent those to me,
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but we're gonna get him on the Skype or the Zoom
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here in a few minutes.
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So we got Man Cal.
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We don't even get a real Roger Stone?
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I don't know, all we know right now
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is that we got Man Cal.
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We get recordings of Roger Stone?
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Man Cal is friends with Roger.
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He went and spent some time with him
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while he was under house arrest.
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Of course, of course.
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And apparently he made some recordings of Roger.
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Oh, great, great.
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So that's our first guest.
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Okay.
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But I'm like, hey, you can have Man Cal and Roger both on.
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No, you can't.
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Well, Alex does have another guest.
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Okay.
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Then Roger's longtime personal lawyer, Tyler Nixon,
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who's not been a lawyer on the case,
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who he's able to speak about it
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because he's been both on the inside and the outside,
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he's scheduled to be joining us via Skype.
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That's coming up.
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Roger is not on.
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We have, Alex got local news level accent.
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We've got the neighbor of the best friend
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of Roger Stone over here to give us some information.
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Yeah, that to me, when I looked at that,
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I was like, what the fuck?
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The bare minimum is Roger gives you a call.
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Just an appearance.
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Yeah, that's me.
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And he didn't get an appearance?
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That's shocking.
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Oh, man, that's the end.
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But there's bigger plans on this Saturday broadcast.
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And then after he leaves us,
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I've never had my phones or my email blown off the wall
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like this.
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I've had neighbors coming over to my house this morning,
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saying Wayfair, Wayfair, Wayfair, Wayfair, Wayfair.
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I got home last night after working till like six o'clock
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and just there were all these text messages
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and I saw comments on him for his Wayfair, Wayfair.
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Is it true that Wayfair, this online shopping system,
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was putting out ads for selling children's in amoires?
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Well, I guess we'll have to listen to find out.
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All right, now let me ask you a real quick question.
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Why is this emergency broadcast happening?
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Roger got clemency.
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All right, so, so far, you have told me there is no Roger.
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Nope.
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And Alex is talking about Wayfair.
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Yep.
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I'm not surprised.
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I wanna be more surprised.
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I'm disappointed, of course.
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I'm very disappointed.
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I was tickled.
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That's exactly what should be happening.
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To be honest, I was tickled.
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I was like, yeah, you know what?
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It would have been gauche to just have Roger.
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It's just so many, I just love,
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I can't begin to stress how much I love it
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whenever wonks on Twitter or something are like,
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oh, I can't wait to see what Alex says to this
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because in my head, all I see, all I hear is just like,
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you're looking forward to being disappointed, I guess.
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I have no idea what you think is going to happen.
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This, to me, is exactly why
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you can't do an emergency episode.
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You gotta wait and see.
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Is Alex going to do an emergency show
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that mysteriously doesn't include an appearance
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from his best friend, Roger?
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Of course.
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Weird.
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Yeah, he has to just pick up scraps.
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Wow.
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But I was thinking,
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Roger's not ready to come on the show till tomorrow
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on the Sunday broadcast.
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He's promised me one of the first interviews.
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I know he was up late last night
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drinking with Man Cal Muller,
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another one of my longtime friends.
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And I thought, wait a minute.
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Man Cal is still in Florida.
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If he's up, I'll call him and get him on the show.
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So he and his wife are literally checking out
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with their children out of the hotel room right now.
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They've got a late check out.
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We've got a quick pop in from him.
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Scraps.
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Oh, so his argument is basically
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Stone is too hung over to go on the show.
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I mean, that's the most generous version of this.
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Yeah, right?
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Either that or Stone is still drinking.
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I mean, at some point later,
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Alex does say that Roger wasn't answering his calls.
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So it might just be he's too busy with people who...
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Matter?
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Yeah.
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So Man Cal comes in and normally...
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Man Cal.
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Man Cal.
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I am not a fan of Man Cal.
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My old friend.
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Yes, yes.
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It should be.
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I famously was a guest on Man Cal's show many years back,
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back when I was doing standup.
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It was an accident.
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I don't know why I was there.
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It was one of the more miserable times I've ever had
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in my life.
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Druski did it on purpose.
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I think he's a horrible person.
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Oh man, he's a piece of shit.
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He's tough to work with, I will say, in a radio setting.
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I generally don't care much for his appearances,
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but this one is kind of funny a little bit,
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because Man Cal knows the social dynamic.
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Yes.
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He just left hanging out with Roger,
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and Alex is doing a special broadcast about Roger
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that Roger won't show up on.
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Right.
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The status imbalance is gigantic.
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Astronomical.
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Man Cal is the king, and Alex is nothing.
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In the pathetic world that they all live in.
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And if you're Man Cal, you gotta take that opportunity.
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Of course.
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You gotta feel good.
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Waggle a little bit.
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So, he fucks with Alex a little bit.
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Of course.
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I wanna tell you, first of all, Alex,
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and you're not gonna like this,
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everybody I talk to, you're next.
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You're next, man.
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This government does not like you talking.
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I'm not talking about Trump.
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I'm talking about the deep state.
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Boy, do they hate Alex Jones.
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And I'll tell you, I'll be there with you.
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The Patriots gotta stand up.
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Does this bother you what I'm saying, Alex?
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Or you already know it?
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Oh, I know it, my friend.
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I know it.
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What are you hearing?
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I don't wanna make this about me,
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but what are you hearing?
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No, it's just anyone that's a patriot,
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anyone that believes in God,
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anyone that believes in the Constitution,
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you know, silly things like this,
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they're gonna get ya.
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Oh, so you haven't heard anything.
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You're just talking shit.
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That is, that's pretty solid fucking with Alex.
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You know he's gonna believe you when you say that shit,
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so you might as well draw it out.
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The dead silence from Alex, too, is like,
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do you know something I don't know?
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And Mancow clearly knowing
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he's full of shit about this, fantastic.
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It's one of the rare instances, too,
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where that silence wasn't Alex eating, I don't think.
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Uh-uh, no, no, no.
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Alex is hanging on every word.
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Oh, you idiot.
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So Mancow cannot stop taking every opportunity
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to be all about like, I'm in the middle of this,
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so I was just hanging out with Roger.
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What a dick.
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I talked to someone last night, Alex,
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again, everybody was calling in there.
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And we're talking political talking heads
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and famous people.
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No, I know, I should have thought to call you
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and Roger wasn't, because you were at his house for dinner.
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I just went ahead and hung out with the kids, but yeah.
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I was monopolizing his time, but.
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Oh, my God.
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You know, when somebody's a consummate dick,
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99% of the time, you absolutely hate them.
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Oh, totally.
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But when they use those powers
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on another consummate dick, it's fantastic.
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Yeah, it's behavior that can become humorous
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when you don't care about the recipient of the behavior.
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Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Mancow's got some sources within the old government.
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Right?
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So Mancow's sources say that Trump
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is beginning to crack under pressure, right?
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Alex cannot allow that.
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Can't hang.
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No, but Mancow also is very high status.
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So it's finally getting to him that,
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my God, they just don't stop.
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They're going after his little kids.
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They're going after, and they just, God, stop!
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And it's finally getting to him
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according to three really good sources.
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And one major, major source said he's losing it.
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Mancow, that's what I started
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this special transmission with today,
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is that there's a stack of news articles,
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Washington Post, Council on Foreign Relations,
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all of them saying, we're preparing the military
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to remove him under the 25th Amendment.
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And so they're putting those talking points out
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that Trump is cracking, and I think a lot of that is hype.
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I'm not saying the people around you are wrong,
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but regardless, this is, as Trump says,
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if they get through me, they're gonna get you.
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They're not after me, they're after you.
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And so we've got to support the president.
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I think I'm gonna get on a plane and go to DC
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and, or to Florida and bullhorn
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the president's compound again,
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to let him know that we support him.
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You're right, he's all about shiny object.
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He is a good American patriot.
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We gotta let him know we back him right now.
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I was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday.
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Can I resist what up again?
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Just like, yeah, I think I'm gonna get on a plane
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and go home, I was at Mar-a-Lago yesterday.
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Oh, that's good. That's good stuff.
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Man Cow, what a prick.
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Unbelievable.
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Such an asshole thing to do.
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Yeah, so in this next clip, Man Cow's joking around.
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Apparently Roger Stone may have said
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that Man Cow is Q or something.
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Sure, sure. I'm not entirely sure.
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I'm not sure what he's referencing.
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They have a great time.
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But this is really fun because Alex has no idea
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what Man Cow is talking about.
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This is very confusing.
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Did you see that Roger Stone revealed who Q was?
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Yes, tell folks.
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He said it was me.
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So the next time I come, I'm not Q,
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but the next time I come on,
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you and I have some serious stuff to talk about.
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I love you, brother.
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Well, I mean, being in the middle of Roger Stone
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the last week, you are Q.
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I mean, we know who started the whole Q thing.
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That was very weird.
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The weird part...
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The right is too good at comedy, man.
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The weird part is when Man Cow says,
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Roger said who Q is, do you know this?
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And Alex says, yes, when it's clearly something
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he has no idea what the fuck Man Cow is talking about.
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Anyway, I think that Man Cow might be
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a little bit of a Q guy.
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Seems like it.
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You know about the secret messages?
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Yes.
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Look it up, folks.
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Did you hear about Wayfair and all the kids?
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Do you know about all the pedophiles
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that this president is busting up
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while they keep trying to tie him to Epstein?
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He's the president that ended Epstein.
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A lot more coming, folks.
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Stay strong, Alex.
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So I think that the secret codes and the Wayfair pushing,
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I think he might be a Q guy.
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Hard to say exactly, but I think so.
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I think he might be.
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Anyway, in this next clip, Man Cow
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says something that's directly in opposition
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to what Alex believes.
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We know that Alex has had private personal conversations
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with Joe Rogan about how once he gets free and gets on Spotify,
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he'll be away from YouTube, and he'll
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be able to attack the left.
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Absolutely.
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That's when he'll get to it.
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Now, granted, Joe Rogan has come out
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and said that that's complete nonsense,
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and Alex is making all that up.
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Sure.
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Now, Eric Man Cow Muller has a little bit
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of a different take on this and believes
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that Joe Rogan sold out.
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You realize, you and I talked about this,
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you realize, I mean, we know somebody
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who just got a big podcast deal by selling out.
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You and I won't sell out, and it's cost us millions.
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And folks don't understand Alex Jones at Man Cow.
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Yeah, man, if we wanted to be ass kisses,
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if we wanted to be owned, god, could we be rich, huh?
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But I don't care.
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We're going to go down and fight.
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And we may just save this great country.
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Well, my friend, that's what it's all about.
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You were smart to take your vacation down there.
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I know you already had it planned.
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So yeah, you were smart to be able to hang out with Roger,
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I guess, when he's under house arrest.
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So yeah, Joe Rogan is apparently a sellout,
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according to Man Cow.
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And he said that he and Alex had talked about this.
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Not a sellout, Man Cow.
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Sure.
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I mean, I will say that the time that I was a guest on his show,
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I felt like he was really straight up.
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He was very straight up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Very authentic.
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He was focused on the issues.
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Yes, very much so.
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So Man Cow's interview ends.
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And Tyler Nixon's interview was so pointless
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that I didn't even cut clips of it.
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Why is Tyler Nixon on this broadcast?
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Because he's someone in the proximity of Roger Stone,
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and Alex couldn't get Roger.
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No, but you don't even do it if you can't get Roger.
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I would suggest that that is what you should have done.
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You don't do it.
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Well, I think that you kind of got to make lemons, lemonade.
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He was like, eh, I could talk about Wayfair.
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It seems to be a hot topic.
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Maybe we could drive some traffic.
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Sure, sure, I know.
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But I mean, it just makes you look really weak and sad.
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Well, you can still get eyes on this thing,
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because you do have an association with Roger,
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so there's an expectation that you
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would have something going on.
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Right, right, right.
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Not Man Cow, he's kind of a star.
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You get to talk about Wayfair.
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Maybe you could do some ads, make a little money.
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Yeah, I guess.
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It's that or stay at home on a Saturday.
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Not long-term thinking.
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Well, anyway, Alex is really mad,
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because it turns out that some of the people who
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supply the things that go into his dumb pills
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maybe aren't going to be able to supply him anymore.
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We have quite a few products we can't even get anymore.
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People are like, where's my favorite product?
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Where's this one?
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They were good sellers.
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We can't get them.
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It's shutting down.
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My god.
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Excuse me, I'm getting pissed now.
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You know, you already know what's
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going on with the COVID stuff.
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And I promised the family I'd get back by four or five today.
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So let's just, I got to do this.
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Let's do the COVID, then I'll come back to the Wayfair.
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Which I know I'm right about it, and people
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are going to get pissed at me.
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And I just, I don't care.
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I'm going to tell you the truth.
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We know that he's going to tell the truth about this,
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the Wayfair situation.
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Sure, sure.
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Which is that it was a, you know.
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Well, so the conspiracy that's going around on QAnon
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and on the internet is that there
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are some suspiciously high priced cabinets that
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have the names of people.
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They have people names.
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And so these folks online have decided
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that they must be selling children in those cabinets.
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And they have no evidence of this.
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And it's a lot of bullshit.
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But a very serious question here.
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Yes.
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They think that because they believe that is a smart idea.
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They think that because they're confused about why
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the price is so high.
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That's as best I can tell.
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I know, but I mean, you ascribe to your enemies
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some sort of competency.
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So they think that it would be a smart idea
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if you were one of these people selling children.
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I think that a lot of people get their ideas and thinking
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poisoned by the concept of hiding in plain sight.
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Sure.
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You know, like you get that into your head.
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You start to think like, oh, it would be the perfect place
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to do it.
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Because no one would buy a $12,000 thing.
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So if you did, obviously you would
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be the person who knows to look for the child there.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it's a bit.
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They're great.
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Yeah.
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So Alex knows the truth about it.
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And he's, you know, a lot of people want to know what's up.
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And we are back on this Saturday afternoon emergency
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transmission.
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Without Roger Stone.
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And I have never had so many people reaching out to me,
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friends, family, neighbors, emails, text messages,
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comments on info wars, wanting to know about Wayfarer.
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And I know Army commandos and CIA operatives and FBI agents
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that have been contacting me and others who think this is real.
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Because.
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Uh-oh.
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They should be fired.
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Incredibly, obviously weird it is.
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It's very weird.
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It's very weird.
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And that's the threshold of proof for a lot of people
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that Alex associates with.
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That's all you need.
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That's all you need.
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So Alex begins, he already said that he
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knows the truth about this.
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Yes, we've revealed it, which is?
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Well, he knows the truth.
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That's important.
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Yes.
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Because he now says he doesn't know what's up.
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Now that said, I'm not sure exactly what's going on here.
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But I have a pretty good idea.
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This is one of three things.
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So there's three possibilities.
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But you can't.
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So he knows the truth.
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He knows the truth.
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He doesn't know what's up.
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But it's one of these three things.
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Why don't words mean things anymore?
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I used to like words.
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Here are the three possibilities.
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Here's the first one.
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Either it's a money laundering operation,
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and so they had these numbers.
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And what would be in the cabinet would be drugs or something.
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Or you're paying more for something
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because you're using drug money to pay for it.
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That goes on all over the place.
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Online, it's happening every millisecond, OK?
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Where you've got a $100 cabinet, a $200 cabinet.
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I've actually bought cabinets like these
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that you add a couple zeros to or whatever.
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And now it is $12,000, $13,000, $14,000.
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Is Alex implying that he's laundering money?
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He's bought $12,000, $13,000 cabinets to launder money?
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Seems weird.
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He should have phrased that better.
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Yeah.
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Sounds suspicious.
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So that's the first option.
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Sure.
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Here's the second.
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So it's either money laundering or it is the big mistake
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they said, and some fool added zeros to it.
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That's not what they said, but that's the second option.
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Some idiot just added zeros.
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OK, so massive conspiracy to launder money.
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Yes.
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Could be an oopsie.
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Could be.
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Option three.
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Or is it really that they're advertising this
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as a package, a container, symbolizing
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they're going to deliver you a child drugged up
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in one of these cabinets?
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I said there's three things.
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Because there's actually four.
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People are going to debate and say.
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So these are the three options.
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What do you think he's going to go with?
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Money laundering, big old oopsie,
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selling kids in cabinets?
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I'm going to have to go with he's
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going to say this is the big one and we've caught him.
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That's an interesting possibility.
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But unfortunately, it's a trick question.
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But there's a fourth.
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God damn it.
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I said there was a fourth.
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There's a fourth.
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OK.
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All right, fine.
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Think about that.
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No, I really see.
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I've experienced the fourth.
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Yes, you have.
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I believe this is the fourth from all the evidence
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and how outrageous it is and how obvious it is
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and how it's designed and meant.
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Well, you put a big old juicy nightcrawler worm
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on the end of a hook and drop it in there
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for the bass or the purge of the crappie.
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False flash.
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Because it smells good, it's wiggling around.
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They're going to want to take a bite out of it.
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Yeah, so the fourth option is it's a trap.
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It's a false flag.
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Yeah, the globalists have created this
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in order for conspiracy theorists
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or whatever to find and amplify as a trap in order
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to invalidate other stories about crimes against children.
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I mean, whatever.
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This is ludicrous.
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I feel really frustrated with that thought process.
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Yeah, no, it's frustrating.
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Because if you think that that's what it, OK.
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Here's what the globalists need to trap you.
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Nothing.
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You're saying to all of your conspiracy laden friends
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that the globalists don't even need
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to work hard to get you guys to believe stupid shit.
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Well, I mean, it was the same thing
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with his rationalization for the stuff about Obama's birth
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certificate, the birtherism.
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Sure.
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It was like the globalists put out the Kenyan birth certificate
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because they knew that the right wing was racist.
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And they would say that he was born in Kenya,
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when in reality, he was the child
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of the communist pornographer.
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You're just admitting you're all so fucking stupid
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that you're willing to make a conspiracy out of anything.
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Yeah, you'll fall for anything.
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You'll fall for anything.
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Yeah.
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That's a huge insult, right?
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I guess.
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You would think.
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All right.
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So Alex believes there's this fourth option,
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and that is this is a trap.
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It's a honeypot.
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It's a honeypot.
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Yeah, of course.
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I think that he's not considering a fifth option,
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and that is that the people who make up
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the large bulk of his audience are not very good
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at discerning information, not good at critical thinking,
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and they're going to pizza gate all over again.
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Naturally.
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When you look at this, it's not just
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that they added zeros to it.
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It's not money laundering, it looks like,
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because it's the names of girls.
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And it's not like they have three cabinets or 20 cabinets.
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It's all these products named after little girls,
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and a bunch of them are really weird names.
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You don't even know what you get when you buy a boat.
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Kidnapped children on the backs of milk cartons
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and in your internet.
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Warnings.
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Now, why in the hell would they put out ads
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to really deliver you children in cabinets
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and then put the actual names of kids on this?
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This is one thing and one thing only.
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I do conditionally admire Alex saying,
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why would they do this?
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At least even Alex can be like, this is stupid.
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Unacceptable.
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Unacceptable to me.
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Unacceptable to me.
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The moment you add in the fact that you can think to yourself,
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this would be a dumb thing for someone to do,
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but it's all invalid.
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But honestly, it's only because Alex got embarrassed
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so badly with pizza gate.
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That's the only reason that he's behaving like this.
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Well, see, now you're adding in that he can learn?
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That's really bummer, too.
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Well, but that's just because it was dangerous.
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That guy showed up with a gun there.
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And if he did this stuff again, that's too traceable.
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He needs to be on the right side of this
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in case it does break that direction.
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He knows that.
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And that's why this whole conversation largely
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is like, hey, remember what happened with pizza gate?
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And then him trying to pretend he didn't behave.
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You remember all of this.
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It was top story on Drudge, top story all over the place.
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Now, this broke for about a week or two.
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And then suddenly, out of the Podesta's and out
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of the Democratic Party, CNN, The New York Times,
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The Washington Post, all at the same morning
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came out and said, wow, bizarre claims that a pizza place has
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a dungeon under it and that they're killing kids
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and selling them.
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And they've got all these things out that look pedophilic.
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And look at these other businesses.
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They do as well.
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And it turned out some of the stuff
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was really creepy and weird.
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And then we had Jack the Sobic interviewed
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about how creepy it was there.
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And we covered this a bunch.
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And they told people they needed to check it out.
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And it's really suspicious.
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We got to check out their menu.
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It's fucking crazy.
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You're saying that I did that stuff.
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I'm going to get on a plane and go to DZ myself
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to check this out.
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You can't prove that I said that.
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There's no person who has recordings of those things.
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Right.
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Well, Alex has tried to delete them from the internet.
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But they're still there.
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So obviously, the argument that he's trying to make
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is that the Podesta emails and all these WikiLeaks things
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came out and they had a real code about trafficking people.
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And then the whole thing with Pizzagate
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ended up just being a distraction
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from the real things.
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And now that Ghislaine Maxwell, who he still
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hasn't figured out how to pronounce her name,
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has been arrested, this is in order to cover up that.
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As opposed to possibly just mass delusions.
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People who feed into each other's internet behaviors,
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they go on these vicarious hunts where they think
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that they're doing something.
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They're sleuths.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I think that that's a much easier explanation.
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Because that's exactly what happened with Pizzagate.
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I watched Pizzagate happen in real time.
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I was on those Reddit conspiracy board
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where people were coming up with new pieces of information.
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And then some of it gets rejected.
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Some of it, people explore more.
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And then a couple days later, someone was like,
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remember three days ago someone said this?
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And we ignored it.
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And then they'll bring it back in.
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I watched that happen in real time.
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This is a game.
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Right, but the thing with Wayfair,
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that stuff happened much quicker.
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That broke like that.
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We're primed for it now.
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We've all got the playbook at our fingertips.
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And there are enough people who have such low standards
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for bringing things to the public's attention
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in QAnon accounts that can amplify things really
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effectively that you can go from nothing to, oh god, so fast.
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So fast.
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Now, here's what's really funny.
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Alex wants you to believe that he
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did nothing with Pizzagate.
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And he knew it looked bad from the beginning.
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He was so smart.
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And so in this next clip, he throws his staff under the bus.
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Oh, no.
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That's what you get for not getting the Skype calls right.
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You're Pizzagate.
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Yeah, he's like, they did that.
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And then he alleges with no proof
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that CNN people were the ones who were posting
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this stuff on Fortune in order to get Pizzagate
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going in the first place.
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So I'm sitting there.
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And I say, I'm going on vacation for a week to Cancun.
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Stop covering it.
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I smell a rat.
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They're diverting us to this off of that.
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They didn't stop.
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I love the crew.
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And that's then how the media got us and said
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that we created a fake story.
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And they used that not being accurate.
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We didn't create it.
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CNN, MSNBC, no doubt their operatives
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put it on 4chan, 8chan.
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That disinformation is there.
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Then we cover it.
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Then they flip it.
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When we broke the big spirit cooking,
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we were the first to get it out and post it.
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So you're proud.
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And they turn with alchemy from the real kids
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and the real farmhouses and the real $65,000 of hot dogs
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and the blood and the semen and the breast milk
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and the Aleister Crowley and the devil worship
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and all these photos and videos of little kids all scared
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and women dressed like witches and big vats of blood
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and Maria Brevanovich and her and Reddit posts saying, yeah,
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I do rituals for real.
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And all of that got distracted by the media
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then focusing in on there was no basement in the pizza place.
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Right.
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But you did that too.
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You weren't in Cancun.
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Well, maybe you were in Cancun.
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But you still engaged in this stuff.
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You can pretend all you want.
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But it's nonsense.
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That's pathetic.
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But because of how embarrassing that whole thing was
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and how much, I guess, Alex took a hit on it
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and probably felt exposed.
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Yeah, he must have gotten more something than we expected.
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Well, I mean, it's one of those times
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that he had to give a big public apology to James Oliphantus.
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That's true.
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And so there's a decent chance that he just thought,
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like, fuck, too close, too close on this one.
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And that might be why he learned his lesson.
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But he didn't learn it all the way.
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So it's not just Ghislaine Maxwell getting arrested.
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It's also all of these stories that he's been
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talking about out of Germany.
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For some reference, there are two stories out of Germany
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that Alex has been covering.
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One of them has to do with in the past,
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there were homeless children who were
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given to foster parents who were known to be pedophiles.
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This is horrifying.
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And the studies of it and the reporting on it
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is unclear the scope to which this was taking place.
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But it does not appear to be what you'd call a widespread.
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Not that that makes it any better, still horrifying.
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No qualifications, fuck it.
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And the other story is about a soldier
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who was arrested fairly recently,
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I believe at the end of last year.
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An investigation surrounding him has
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led to the uncovering of an online child pornography
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sharing network that does involve
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some crimes against children.
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And there were 30,000 leads that the police had to go on.
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And so Alex has those two stories.
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And I believe his intention is to say that this Wayfair story
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is trying to somehow block that.
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Distract from the gotcha.
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That story.
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But he's treating those two stories
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as kind of the same story, even though they're not
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the same story at all.
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It's really complicated.
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But the way he starts talking about this stuff
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in this next clip really kind of brought
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into focus something I found really disturbing about Alex's
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thought patterns.
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As I looked at that article earlier,
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just type in German psychiatrist,
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German government gave children to pedophiles.
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And of course, they first reported
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it was just a few thousand in one town.
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Then it turned out it was a spider web
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all over the country.
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See how they limited that as well.
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It's DW.com as well.
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Just boom.
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So again, ladies and gentlemen, let's
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put that back on screen, please.
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Understand what's going on.
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The week that broke, I said, watch.
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Next week, it'll break that tens of thousands of children
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are involved with thousands of adults.
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Exactly as I said, it broke.
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Why?
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I read a British psychological warfare manual
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that just so happened to be being sold
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that I bought at Barnes and Noble like 20 years ago.
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They talked about their techniques after World War II
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in Africa.
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And they said, if one of our corporations
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kills say 5,000 villagers, we need to get out ahead of it
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and say they killed 20 and put out our fake story.
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So that when it comes out it's 5,000,
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people will average it together in their mind.
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So because the head psychiatrist over CPS in Berlin
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was sending thousands of children to pedophiles,
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they first reported on his case and not
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how it was much larger titrating the dose,
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preparing you for what was about to come out.
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Now you understand how the enemy operates.
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So that's what this is.
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I can still find no evidence to support the claims
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that Alex is making in that clip,
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exaggerating the reporting on the fact
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that the foster care system in West Berlin
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did place homeless children with known pedophiles.
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Again, to stress that point, any number of children
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is unacceptable.
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I'm only pointing out that Alex appears
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to just be making up information to help his narratives be
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more sensational.
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Like I said, what's going on here
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is he's combining two unrelated stories out of Germany
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that we've covered.
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The first is about those homeless youths
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being placed in foster care with pedophiles.
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And the second story is about the 30,000 leads
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that the police have with the modern day network of that.
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So it's wrong to minimize this kind of thing at all.
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But it's equally wrong to sensationalize it.
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The prior story, the one about the foster care system,
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is the one that Alex wants to talk about.
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And the second story includes the number 30,000,
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which Alex likes.
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It's the one he wants to amplify.
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So Alex has just combined them into being about the same thing
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when they're not.
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That being said, the real reason that I pulled this clip
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is because of how clearly it demonstrates a flaw
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in Alex's thinking patterns.
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He believes that everything is psych warfare.
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So he's gotten himself into a very bizarre mode
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where he's essentially given himself permission
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to lie about everything because he's rationalized
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that the thing that he's lying about is just psych warfare
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to begin with.
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Let's take this specific example.
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Alex is lying about reporting about the German foster care
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story, but he doesn't see it as lying
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because he believes that the original reporting is just
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the globalists getting ahead of the story
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in order to soften the blow when the real story comes out.
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Another story justifying his embellishment
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has not come out, but an unrelated story
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about a similar topic has.
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So he's just, eh, good enough, and he's
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claimed a victory about everything.
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This kind of thought pattern goes a long way
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towards explaining why Alex can't report
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a straight version of any story.
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He can't stick to reality, and it's nearly impossible for him
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to not exaggerate details to fit his narratives.
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That's because he thinks reality that is being reported
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is just psych warfare.
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So when he exaggerates a story, he
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thinks that what he's doing is just compensating
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for that to make the story match up with actual reality.
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In fact, what he's doing is making things up and lying,
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but he doesn't experience it that way.
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If that last clip at all accurately expresses
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Alex's beliefs, then it would be fair to say
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that his version of truth could be described as lying
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about things you think are lies.
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Yep.
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That, to me, is really eye-opening.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because?
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Just making it up?
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Like, because what he's saying is that the story's a lie
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to begin with.
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Right, of course.
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So what he's saying is that the Wayfarer situation
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is a hoax to distract from the two situations
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that he has conflated into its own hoax that
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will distract from the actual individual circumstances
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that both stories are not dealing with whatsoever.
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And Ghislaine Maxwell, somehow.
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And Ghislaine Maxwell, somehow.
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Yes.
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And all of this is fine, because sometimes the globalists
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are lying to you.
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And sometimes they're not, because of course I
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can quote New York Times and all of those things
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whenever they match up with what I think they should.
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But if they don't, it's like warfare.
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Exactly.
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Everything that disagrees with what I believe is lies to me.
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And everyone else.
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When it's convenient, this story is psych warfare,
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so I can lie to adjust to compensate for whatever
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I believe the psych warfare is.
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In whatever direction I want.
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And that is me depicting reality,
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as opposed to what it actually is in lying.
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Yeah.
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So I think that's interesting.
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And it kind of, I don't want to say it gives me closure,
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but it definitely gives me a better understanding
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of why he's such a liar, and why he
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doesn't think he's such a liar.
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Yeah, that is.
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Because if you believe what he's saying there,
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like if he actually believes that about what he does
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and how information works, you could justify coming up
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with any story you want.
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Sure.
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And then just being like, no, this is the truth.
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That story is the whitewash.
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That's the fake version of the story.
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I've made up a number that feels right,
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based on me calling this a whitewash.
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And it explains a large swath of his behavior.
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And it's a bummer.
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And the thing about that is, by no means
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do I experience any empathy for him in this way,
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but what that is essentially saying
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is that I will never accept good news,
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because it doesn't conform to my version of reality.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like everything that provides good and joy,
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he lies about in order to facilitate
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the continuation of this globalist conspiracy.
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And he amplifies every negative news source,
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as long as it helps with his conspiracy theory.
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And any real news is negative, because it helps
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with his conspiracy theory.
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And so at any and all times, he is experiencing nothing
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but panic, fear, and rage.
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If he actually is.
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If he actually is, then yeah.
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He's living.
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I mean, he's torturing himself.
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Right, I'm less concerned with that.
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I mean, I'm not at all concerned with that.
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I'm just trying to feel like it.
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There's an empathy I can extend to his loved ones
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and the people around him.
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Totally.
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But my empathy goes far more to the people who listen to him
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and believe him.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Like how can you listen to this guy
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and take it seriously when he's clearly expressing to you
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that like, yeah, I read news stories
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and then I just make up stuff because it's like warfare.
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That's ridiculous.
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It's really sad.
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Like the people who believe him and follow this stuff
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have just unknowingly, essentially,
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been tricked into a cult of Alex.
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It's just whatever he interprets and experiences as true
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is presented as truth.
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And he will harangue you with references
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to like arcane and obscure documents you haven't read
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and he hasn't either in order to justify his positions.
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And it's all just a fucking parlor trick.
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It's ridiculous.
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It's very sad.
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It's very sad.
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Really sad.
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Well, for the people who believe it.
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Yes.
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It's sad for Alex, ultimately, because I mean,
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like this legacy doesn't hold up.
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Like, no.
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Like let's say we survive the current troubles we're in.
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Like his history doesn't go down well in the same way
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that we can look back on the John Birch Society
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and all right thinking people can be like,
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they were anti-communist lunatics.
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They were way out of line.
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Alex's legacy is going to be similar.
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What he has done with his life, his life's work
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will look like shit.
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And that kind of sucks, but I don't think he cares.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, in the same way
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that his listeners are victims and participants
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in their own kind of miserable existence,
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Alex is visiting upon them and himself.
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It's unfortunate.
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He's torturing everyone in proximity to him.
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So I told you that.
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Including me.
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I told you that there was a conditional aspect to me saying
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that Alex was like, wow, at least he
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can even see through this would be stupid.
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It's way fairer conspiracy.
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Now the reason it's conditional.
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It's because he's about to say that it may be true.
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The globalists have put out this disinformation
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because they know this is massive.
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This is the zeitgeist.
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People now understand it and they
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hope when it comes out this isn't true,
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it'll somehow discredit it all.
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I actually believe this will blow up in their face
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like Pizzagate did.
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What?
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And people will see through all this
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and understand what's going on.
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Now, could it be they're really money laundering?
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Could it be that they're actually these are real ads?
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Who knows?
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They might be that bold of really doing it.
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Could it be that's an honest mistake and more zeros
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were added?
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I don't believe so because they're all
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named after little girls, a bunch of them
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missing little girls to make everybody go crazy.
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So he is saying that it's globalist disinformation,
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but also maybe it's money laundering.
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Weird.
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I know for a fact.
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Yes, it's globalist disinformation.
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Now it may be the other things.
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How could it be both?
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How could it even be possible that it's
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money laundering if it's an intentional plan
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by the globalists to make your side look bad
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and make it look like?
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All right, Dan.
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It's like in chess when you've got a pin, all right?
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I don't know.
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Is the German like zufswang or whatever it is?
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I don't know, but it's like whatever move your enemy makes,
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you get to take one of their pieces no matter what happens.
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So this is why if you are laundering money,
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you both actually launder money and also make
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it look like you're not laundering money
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unless somebody figures out that you're laundering money,
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in which case it will blow up in your face
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just like Pizzagate blew up in their faces.
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Definitely no one else's face did Pizzagate blow up in.
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Yeah, but I will say, and this is convoluted and stupid.
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There's no way.
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I appreciate your attempt to stretch this
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in a way that makes sense.
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Credulity.
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You just can't.
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No, it's not possible.
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But at least Alex is pretty clear
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that this is a stupid way to try and deliver traffic
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to children.
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Good.
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Do you really think that a group like this
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would ship thousands of kids around in containers,
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not knowing a truck's going to wreck or one's going to fall
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open or a kid's going to die in one?
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No, folks.
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No, it's not true.
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It's not real.
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That's why they are doing all of this.
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They didn't make typos on hundreds and hundreds of items.
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We're going over right now.
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I'll have more tomorrow.
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This was done as bait.
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And they use names of real children that are missing.
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And to make people take the bait and say, oh, my God,
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this is real.
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So this is bait.
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This is bait.
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It's the globalists putting out this honey trap.
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It's bait.
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Now, that would make this next clip tough to hear,
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which he says almost immediately after.
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Because it is coming out.
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They can't hide it.
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The system doesn't know what to do.
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So I've been set up like this.
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And they didn't completely defeat me.
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We figured it out and turned it around on them.
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Did you?
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But this is meant to discredit the real work
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that police are engaged in, in my view.
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And maybe you disagree with me, comment in the comments below.
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But if the globalists have gotten bold enough,
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and maybe I'm wrong, to ship kids actually
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in containers like this.
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Psychos, when they don't get caught for a while
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and get away with it, a lot of them go even crazier
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and start wanting to get caught.
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And who the hell knows anymore?
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I mean, this is just unbelievable.
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But know this.
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This was not an accident that they
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used a bunch of little girls' names and some of them
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missing girls, complete with first and last names.
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That is not.
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This was done to bait you away from all the other real stuff.
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Infowars.com, newswars.com, tomorrow's news today.
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That's the end of his special report.
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This is not how you do this.
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This is not good.
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Because he's clearly, clearly articulating his position
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that this is bait, this is to try and sucker people
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into going down this rabbit hole or whatever.
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And then right at the end, he's like, oh, maybe, I don't know.
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Maybe the globalists are sending out kids in these containers.
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Why are you doing that?
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If you know that that's ludicrous and bait,
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why are you making the bait possibly
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attractive to your audience?
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What are you doing?
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I think it's because he hates me.
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I've decided, honestly, I'm full on solipsist now.
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I am the only person that exists,
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and Alex is here because he hates me.
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That's it.
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I know that I can counter your argument.
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I don't know.
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You wouldn't believe me.
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Yes.
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But things that happen when you're not here.
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It's a hoax.
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Oh, my god.
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How can you even?
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He's got a knife.
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Ladies and gentlemen, he's got a knife.
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Oh, no.
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He's coming towards me.
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How can you turn this somehow into you being the victim?
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That's a good point.
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Yeah, that is a good thought.
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It does seem like he does that a lot.
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A bunch of random people found some random bullshit
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on Wayfair, and I'm the victim of this.
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Well, clearly.
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This is targeted at me.
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Clearly.
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These QAnon folks who are posting all of these Wayfair
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conspiracies, it's really just an attempt by the globalist
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to entrap me into covering this in order
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to delegitimize my already sterling, remarkable,
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unimpeachable record.
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Which I will then defeat them by revealing that it's a hoax,
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while also leaving the possibility open that, hey,
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they might be doing it.
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Hey, I don't want to fully close the door on this just in case
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I realize that it could be profitable.
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What the fuck?
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The thing about the honey trap, Dan.
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There is honey in it, and I like honey.
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So I'm going to put my hand in there.
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Mm, nom, nom, nom, nom, a little bit of honey.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck?
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I don't know.
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I constantly am left with a feeling of bewilderment
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at him because, first of all, here we go.
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I mean, this whole thing is supposed to be like Roger.
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Yes, I do recall this being the day that Roger, mm-hmm, OK.
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It is a profound statement that Roger Stone didn't show up
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the next day on Infowars when Alex did an emergency broadcast
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about him getting clemency.
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That cannot be overstated.
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The idea that Mancow was at the same hotel where Roger Stone
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theoretically was.
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You got it.
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And was in his vicinity and didn't give him the phone.
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Hey, do you want to talk to Alex real quick?
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The fact that all of that happened is damning.
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Yeah.
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It demonstrates Alex's relative position to other folks.
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And then this Wayfair stuff is real shitty, real shitty.
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Man, I just, it's just such a bummer.
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I would love it if Alex had the backbone
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that it took to just be like, fuck you, Roger.
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Yeah.
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Fuck you.
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That would be nice.
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You're done.
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That would be nice.
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I've debased myself for you to the point
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where I've lost my entire business.
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I'm going down.
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My life is a shambles.
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Now do I have a lot to do with that?
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Totally.
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The least Roger could do is show up.
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All you have to do is show up.
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Just say, thanks, Alex, for all you've done.
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Give me a thank you.
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And then say, oh, I got to go.
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Or I'm not feeling well.
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Or hey, I was celebrating so much.
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I'm hung over.
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I'm hung over.
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And everyone who's listening to the show
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would be like, fuck yeah, you are.
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You just got out of prison, buddy.
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You get shit faced.
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And Alex, all you need to do is get a thank you.
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And Roger didn't give you the thank you.
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So cut ties forever.
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No, he's just like, wow, it's too early
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as we're recording this on Sunday
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to know if he was actually on Sunday, although I assume
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he probably was.
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Probably.
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But still, that's a day and a half after.
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That's too long.
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Nope.
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That's too long.
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You got rat fucked like we told you you would.
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Probably.
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God damn it.
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I hate it.
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Yep.
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And I hate that we had to listen to Band Cow,
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but it is what it is.
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Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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And I go to bed, Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are, but if you would like, please
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find a bail fund or charity in your area
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that will help take care of people who need it.
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Yeah, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXClark.
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I really want to know what that Bohemian Grove news was.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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