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Andy and Candice.
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Andy and Candice.
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Thanks for holding me.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a system caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Knowledge fight.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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We like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan?
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Jordan.
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Dan, quick question.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot?
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Why don't you lead us off?
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My bright spot is courtesy of my partner, Black Dragon Queen Christy, sent us some masks
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and they fit her face perfectly.
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She is not experienced.
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This is a bright spot for her as opposed to you.
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She forced, she literally said she will kill me if I did not point out that Black Dragon
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Queen Christy made her life infinitely.
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Oh that's wonderful.
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I must.
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And I am grateful.
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Fantastic.
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Yes.
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I guess my bright spot for the week, or not week, you both are screwing that up now, is
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I was watching some videos of a guy, an ex-convict, talk about life in prison.
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All right.
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Did you get scared straight?
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I mean I was already not really committing crimes.
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That's fair.
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I really got glad that I don't have to know any of that stuff.
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You know, like he's talking about how you clean a peanut butter jar and stuff.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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This is fascinating to watch him rip up like newspaper and boil some water with it.
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Right, right.
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I'm glad I just don't have to worry about that.
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I got hot water, I could just dunk it out.
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But it was also really fascinating to me like the ingenuity that is displayed by people
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in prison.
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Like you take away people's ability to do very simple things, like send a message a
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couple cells over or whatever, and they find these just neat, like insanely elaborate ways
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to do it.
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Like hardening toothpaste up to make a weight to throw.
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Sure, of course.
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It's impressive.
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But also very depressing.
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It bears out the old circumstances dictate kind of concept there.
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So Jordan, we had an interesting episode to go over today.
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I believe you.
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But before we get down to business on that, we've got to take a little moment to say thank
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you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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So first, Michael R. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Michael.
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Thanks, Michael.
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Next, Tom D. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Tom.
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Next, Utah Outcasts.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, Utah Outcasts, which I assume is just about everybody.
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Next, all one word, an obvious alias.
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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, an obvious alias.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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Next, Sarah P. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Sarah.
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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who donated on elevated
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We appreciate that very much.
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Thank you so much, Brett R. You are now a technocrat.
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And all one word, see obstructive.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Brett R. And thank you so much, see obstructive.
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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
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these gents.
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You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show.
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charity in your area that's helping people in need.
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Yes, we would appreciate either very much.
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Indeed.
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Jordan, before we get to the formal episode here, we got to do a-
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How's the year of the seltzer?
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Well.
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God damn it.
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Pretty well.
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God damn it.
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Yeah.
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This last couple of days, I've really, you know what I've been doing?
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I've been really focusing on some real meat and potatoes, basic seltzer.
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Meat and potato seltzer.
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Not these really fun, interesting, ambitious seltzers.
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Fucking orange.
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No, not orange.
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Okay.
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The lemon and lime one.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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What I did is I knocked out all the flavors of ice mountain.
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Okay.
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I found Lucy's of ice mountain sparkling waters.
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Okay.
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And so we went through the black cherry, the lemon, lime, and triple berry.
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Hell yeah.
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All get a 60.
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All.
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They're all fine.
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Exactly fine.
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Yes, exactly.
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They are meat and potato seltzers.
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Yeah.
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Real good, serviceable, but nothing to get too excited about.
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You're not going to go crazy.
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Now also, I've gone with the Canfield.
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I don't know if you know about Canfield.
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I don't.
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They have a soda called Canfield 50-50.
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Okay.
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Is that a Seagram 7 and 7?
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No.
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It's kind of a Fresca vibe.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I like it.
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I've always enjoyed that as a soda option.
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All right.
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It turns out they have some seltzers, and so we got the lime and the lemon of those.
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All right.
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Both 70s.
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They're better.
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Both 70s.
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They're better than ice mountain.
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Yeah.
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But again, nothing too crazy good.
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Nothing crazy.
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Yeah.
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But it's nice.
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I'm spending a little bit of time in this world of just like normal.
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Normal seltzers.
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You know what?
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I have a deep question for you.
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Okay.
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And this is probably the year of the seltzer's biggest question, all right.
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Would you revisit the ecstatic seltzers as something that you would drink regularly?
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What does that mean?
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Do you know what I mean?
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Or is an ecstatic seltzer something that must exist in its own time period?
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Do you mean the ones that I've rated very highly?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Would you drink the... Would you drink the Limoncello as just like a regular drink all
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the time?
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I probably wouldn't drink it all the time because I wouldn't want to get tired of it.
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Doesn't seem like a treat.
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But I would drink it normally.
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Yeah.
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I would drink the Aha Black Cherry Coffee.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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I would definitely go to those on a regular basis.
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Okay.
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But yeah, I think that there's some that I've rated pretty highly that I'd be like, I have
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to be in the mood for this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what I was questioning.
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Yeah, there are some.
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And this is kind of one of the flaws of my rating system.
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Right.
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And that is that I do give points for ingenuity and creativity.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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And that makes things a little bit difficult.
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And novelty as well.
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Sure.
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Which wears off.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that's been the air of the seltzer.
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Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
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And I want to say we're doing a little bit of a wacky Wednesday thing, but we're not
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getting to the Bill Cooper thing that I teased on the last episode.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And that's because there's a little bit more preparation that I need to do on that.
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And I have not had the time to really get as in-depth on it as I want to because also
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as I referenced recently, I have to move.
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And so I've been apartment hunting and that's a pain under normal circumstances, much more
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complicated now.
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Oh, what's different now?
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Well, there's this virus.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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I haven't heard.
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It complicates things a little bit and that has been a little bit of a frustration.
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And just like trying to find leads, tons and tons of dead ends and stuff.
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So that's taken up a bit of my time.
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And so the Bill Cooper thing will have to wait for when we can have the bandwidth to
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do it properly.
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It's got to be done.
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Right.
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But at the same time, there is something important that's going on in the world of our Wacky
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Wednesdays and it's something that is going to have lasting consequences, I think, actually.
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And it's the kind of thing that I was thinking about getting some music to play on this episode.
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Oh, no.
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I was thinking about playing either The Sound of Silence or Goodbye, Yellow Brick Road,
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some other song that has goodbye in it.
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Is somebody shitting on somebody?
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No, no one's shitting.
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But I mean, we've done it before, but I think we officially probably have to say goodbye
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to our friends at Project Camelot.
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No.
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We have to say goodbye?
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Yep.
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And we may not have a choice in the matter.
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Oh, no.
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They might be saying goodbye?
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It's possible.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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But just the other day, Carrie Cassidy over Project Camelot put up a video where there
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was a big announcement that she made.
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Hi, everyone.
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I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
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Hi, Carrie.
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So we are going to be a subscription based website now.
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And our website is projectcamelot.tv.
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And these are the three plans.
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It's quite simple and easy to join.
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And I can show you here on the screen the various ways to find it on our website.
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And what I'd like to say is that as many people know, YouTube has demonetized us a couple
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of weeks ago.
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And so this is our solution.
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And thus we have Carrie Cassidy taking Project Camelot into a subscription model.
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If you pay a dime to Carrie Cassidy, I'm going to be mad at you.
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I think this probably is the actual end of the road for us covering her nonsense.
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It has to be.
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For one, there's absolutely no chance that I will be spending any money on her content.
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And secondly, doesn't feel right to do episodes going over things that creators keep behind
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a paywall.
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It does.
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Yeah.
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Project Camelot is stupid and I love mocking it, but I still respect Carrie's right to
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her intellectual property.
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If she wants to try to get people to pay for access to her videos, it would be pretty shitty
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of me to pay for a membership, then rebroadcast most of her videos on our own show.
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That's kind of unethical.
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You're actually right there.
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Yeah.
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But if she is going to a subscription model, then just based on my understanding of what
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I think the limitations of fair use are, I don't think we can do episodes about them.
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It's very frustrating that I agree with you because I think she's a bad person.
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Right.
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And I don't like giving her a lot of respect for that.
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Well, I mean, it's not giving her respect.
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It's just her content.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I know.
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But playing fair doesn't seem fair when they're bad.
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Yeah.
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I don't really care.
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My morality isn't dictated by what these people deserve.
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Totally.
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I understand that.
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But this looks like where we part, and I'm not the only one.
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Going over the comments on the YouTube announcement, it appears that the response is pretty divided,
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with some people saying that they're going to come along with a new model and others
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saying they aren't going to pay.
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This is bullshit.
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Yeah, naturally.
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And a lot of it is pretty fair.
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There's a lot of people who are having their videos demonetized on YouTube right now, and
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so a lot of folks are trying to migrate to a subscription model of some sort.
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Right.
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But in the comments, there's a ton of people who are like, I get my content from X, Y,
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Z different people, and I'm not going to be able to afford to pay all of them whatever.
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Fair.
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So why don't you guys all just group up and make your own thing, and now we're back to
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YouTube.
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It's kind of way worse to make people have to pay for the lies you tell them.
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Yeah.
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That really fucks me up.
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Yeah, that is definitely a... I mean, you don't even have to pay for the
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not lies we tell you.
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It's true.
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So, you know, this is kind of expected.
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Some people are in, some people are out.
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That's what happens when big changes like this happen.
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You keep some people in the fold, but you're definitely going to lose some of that audience.
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What's less expected is that a couple commenters point out in the comments section that the
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page where you're supposed to sign up for a membership to the new Project Camelot is
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an unsecured website.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I went to the site to check for myself, and sure enough, it is an unsecured page, which
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is pretty fucking dangerous.
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Let's put all my credit card info on an unsecured page.
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I love it.
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That's a great idea.
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In theory, anyone who signed up for her subscription service could have had their information stolen,
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which is just a gigantic bummer.
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That's a double whammy.
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Yeah.
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Ultimately, I think this is a terrible plan.
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I have zero faith that it's actually going to work out well, and there's a pretty decent
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chance she'll just end up staying on YouTube.
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Yeah, we'll go back to Project Camelot in about six weeks.
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Whatever the thing is, this is dumb.
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It's just dumb.
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Unless you're also putting all your content up on YouTube, you're never going to reach
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people who might stumble across your content.
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It seems like shooting yourself in the foot in order to make a couple bucks.
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Yeah, she's in a catch-22.
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If she makes at least a significant amount of money from YouTube monetization, and that's
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all gone, then she has no income there, so she tries to replace it with her, I guess,
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subscription content, but nobody's going to follow along there.
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It doesn't seem likely.
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She's fucked.
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Yeah.
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I mean, she might as well sell hats.
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Some people...
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I think she does say...
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Make America Camelot again.
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I like it.
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I think she actually does bring up that she's going to start selling some merch or something.
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Okay.
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Perfect.
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But I don't feel that bad, because honestly...
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Because we don't sell any hats?
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No.
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We should get some hats.
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No, I mean, I don't feel that bad for the situation, because it's like, yes, you're
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sitting around talking about how the coronavirus is turning people into vampires in China.
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And you're denying that there is a virus at other times, like, yes, YouTube has every
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right to say you can't make money off these videos.
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I don't feel bad about that.
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She's also gotten warnings in the past, so I don't feel bad about anybody being treated
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unfairly, but it's a shitty situation.
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Totally.
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And I do wish her luck on some level, except I don't, because she also might be an anti-Semite.
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Kind of is an anti-Semite.
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Totally is.
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To me, this is a lot like Al Capone kind of situation.
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You're getting her where her money is.
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You're not getting her for her actual crimes.
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She's spreading disinformation that's going to get people hurt and maybe even killed.
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But what you're doing is you're just taking away her money stream.
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So it's like, yeah, I get what you're saying.
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But she should probably be arraigned on some other charges, maybe?
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As long as free speech is a thing, I don't know what you're going to do with that.
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But I mean, that's how it goes.
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I mean, Alex is probably not going to be taken down for anything other than some lawsuit.
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I wonder what his tax situation is.
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Who knows?
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Maybe he gets some, what is it?
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What's the name of it?
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Now I'm mad.
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What's the name of the prison where Capone was?
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I don't know.
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Alcatraz.
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Alcatraz.
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God damn it.
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Wow.
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No, it's bad.
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I was even in San Francisco a year ago.
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We are recording a little later than we normally do.
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And I think it's affecting.
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It's not going great.
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This might be our last rodeo with Project Camelot is what I'm saying.
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That's brutal.
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Yeah.
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This is an end to an era.
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Yeah.
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And the part that makes me feel a little bit stupid about this is that we've already been
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like, we're not going to talk about her anymore.
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And then he's gone back a couple of times because it's like, what the fuck is going
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on over here?
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We're on 10 installments of Mark Richards.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we've done it.
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And then, you know, if there is still content that's not behind a paywall that's still on
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YouTube, then I'd still consider that fair game.
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Yeah.
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So there is a possibility that we'll hear more about raptors and antiquing and the mercantile
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cats.
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Right.
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Mercantile dogs, excuse me.
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Spider leadership.
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Sure.
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There may be some of that in the future, but for now it's unclear.
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And so we will go on this last adventure in theory today.
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Wonderful.
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So on a couple of days earlier, before she made the announcement that she's going to
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a subscription model, Carrie got interviewed by a guy named Shepard Ambilis, who has an
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organization, I guess, called, I think it's a blog, called Intellihub.
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And-
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Sounds trustworthy.
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Sure.
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He is a guy who was first interviewed by Alex Jones in 2009.
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And on his YouTube page, that interview is on there and it says, the interview that started
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it all-
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No.
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No.
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No.
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Alex has had him on as a guest very regularly.
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He's tried to give him a job, you know, the way he does on air all the time, like, I got
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to give you a job, that kind of thing.
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He was one of the sources for Alex's coverage of the Las Vegas shooting.
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Shepard would go on to talk about how there were helicopters shooting at the crowd.
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Of course.
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And what have you.
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So he's a real ding-dong.
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But he's very adjacent to Alex.
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So like, this is a really close, you don't need six degrees of separation on this one.
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This is direct.
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He literally is Kevin Bacon.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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He is a guy who's frequently on Alex Jones' show and here he is interviewing Carrie Cassidy
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about whatever dumb bullshit she's got going on.
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Let's see what's going on.
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So we start and Shepard introduces the thing, because it's his show, so you don't get to
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say hello to Carrie on this one.
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God damn it.
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But it starts with the, just like, hey, I really respect your work, which is a bad start.
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You are listening to the Intella Hub Podcast.
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I'm your host, Shepard Ambellus, and today we have a very special guest with us, Project
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Camelot, I know you all know the name, Carrie Cassidy is with us, her website, projectcamelotportal.com.
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Carrie, you've done over a thousand interviews with whistleblowers.
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First question.
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Should you have?
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The most fascinating stories I've ever heard in my life came from a lot of your interviews
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and fascinating people.
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This guy is terrible, he is so boring, he's got an awful interview style, he's got an
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awful droning voice.
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It's very tough, but you can see already just the way this starts off, he's seeding this
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ground of calling these people whistleblowers, talking about the most fascinating, amazing
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stories.
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It's like, yeah, they are amazing stories.
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You're talking about how the walking with dinosaurs are actual dinosaurs, yes, that
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is fascinating.
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It's like interviewing Isaac Asimov and being like, so is Harry Selden real, are you sure?
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It is fascinating.
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So if this is our last time sitting around talking with Carrie, it's actually kind of
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fitting because Shepard asks her about her roots, how did this get going?
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Oh shit, are we coming full circle?
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A little bit, we get to hear a little bit about what led to the creation of Project
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Cam a lot and of course, it's a career that didn't work out naturally.
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Okay, well, I started out, actually I was working in Hollywood for 20 years and I reached
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a glass ceiling.
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I decided to pick up a consumer grade camcorder and I started going out to make my own.
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Thanks for telling us it's consumer grade, by the way.
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I was at attending conferences and I actually got this idea that I would make a documentary
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saying, have you seen a UFO?
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Two speakers who would talk about everybody else seeing them, but not themselves.
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I like that idea, I like that idea of like I was going to do this documentary where I
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just put a camera in people's face and I'm like, have you seen a UFO?
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I don't want to talk about what you know about the subject, have you seen it?
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Have you seen it?
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I have not.
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I have not.
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I would really appreciate a series of interviews that last about 14 seconds that start with,
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hey, have you seen any UFO?
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And somebody's like, nope.
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You bet.
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Moving along.
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All right.
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Next person.
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Next person.
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Also, great, great way to phrase it, I hit the glass ceiling in Hollywood.
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That's a great, that is a perfect way.
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I know so many comics.
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I'm not saying she's wrong.
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I'm not saying she's wrong.
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I know a hundred thousand comics who hit glass ceilings at open mics.
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Totally.
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Which is not to say that women do not hit a glass ceiling.
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Oh, I mean.
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There is a glass ceiling.
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I'm sure there are, but I would suggest that there's probably a talent deficit.
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Don't think Harry hit the glass ceiling.
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Yes.
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I think Harry could hit the glass ceiling with a lot more work and effort.
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I don't want to, I don't want to diminish or make fun of the idea that there is a gender
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disparity and all that.
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That's all good and well.
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Totally.
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That's all good and well.
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Not for her.
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Not for her.
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Anyway, I decided to get a camcorder and ask people if that was the idea.
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I think you proved in the second half of the sentence you didn't hit the first half of
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the sentence.
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If that's the first project that you go to after you're unshackled from Hollywood dreams
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or whatever, it's kind of indicative that maybe you don't have the best ideas.
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Look, I'm not saying that I hit a glass ceiling.
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Whenever I say my standup career hasn't gone great.
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Sure.
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It's, you know, I mean, I guess maybe a better way to put it is like you plateaued, you know,
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like, cause that's kind of like, that's where you could get to.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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That's a great way to put my career as well.
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At a certain point in her trajectory of trying to make this documentary and asking people
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they've seen UFOs.
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Upward and then very, very flat.
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She meets Bill Ryan, who ended up being her partner with Project Camelot at the beginning
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and who she believes is like maybe a reincarnation of King Arthur or descended from King Arthur
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or something.
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In the process, I also came across Bill Ryan who became my partner in Camelot who was representing
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the Serpo.org project.
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And I invited him for an interview.
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I went to Laughlin that year.
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This was actually several months later after I was making my documentary and I interviewed
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him.
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It went very well.
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We ended up staying in touch as friends and I, uh, I got a small inheritance from my mother
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passing to Egypt and on the way back I stopped over in England where Bill was living and
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he showed me the power places in England, specifically Tintagel where, which is one
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of the former homes of King Arthur.
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And that's where the idea was born to create a website and for us to team up.
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So again, I just have to stress there is no consensus that King Arthur was a real person.
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That's not born out by historical fact.
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Also that castle that she references was not a home of King Arthur's, even in the legends.
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It was the place where King Arthur was conceived.
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But I guess you could say he lived there based on being in the womb.
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I appreciate a legend being subsumed by such banality of like, the king who brought all
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of Britain together and pulled the sword from the stone inspired me to build a blog.
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I appreciate that.
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I like it.
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It makes me wonder if she views like, uh, Mark Richards as like, Galahad.
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I'd like to see, it's probably Simon Parks.
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I would love to see what the round table is in the conception.
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I'll tell you what guy with the telescope he's there.
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Oh yes, he is.
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He's Gawain.
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I think I'm out.
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Of course.
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Don't remember anymore.
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Of course.
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So, uh, Carrie gets to talking about this demonetization thing, uh, that you did and
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Hey man, she didn't do anything wrong.
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This is completely bizarre because also my viewership, you know, has, is quite large
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as they say.
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And, uh, it had even jumped in the last three months, like, so I was making even more money
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in advertising lies work, this whole COVID things struck.
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But the bottom line is two weeks ago, they, uh, I, I was doing some research, they, you
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know, um, deleted, uh, David Ike's channel.
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And then the same night they delete it, they demonetize me, they demonetize Miles Johnston,
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and I don't know what other people they might've done the same thing to.
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So they're, they're basically, you know, cramp clamping down, they're doing a whole censorship
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thing and, uh, and, and there's, it's, it's completely nonsensical.
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It has to do with, cause I don't have any videos that they had a problem with.
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That's nonsense.
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Did they not?
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I was like at his channel taken down because he was saying that there isn't a virus.
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Wow.
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You're saying that this is all fake.
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Yeah.
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Well, and you know, like it is, it is this interesting thing that like a lot of conspiracy
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theories are just sort of been ignored and yeah, you know, and I think one of the, one
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of the compelling reasons why this is so different in theory is that other conspiracy theories
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can lead you to radicalization that could lead you to take violent action, but it's
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not really essentially dangerous.
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Sure.
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If you're talking about how the Illuminati is in control of the world and they put pyramids
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and music videos, that's not, the Illuminati is not real.
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So it's fine.
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It could lead you down a road that would end up with you wanting to hurt Jay-Z maybe or
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something.
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But ultimately it's also just kind of stupid and Jay-Z can protect himself.
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It's relatively harmless.
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Whereas people like David Icke spinning conspiracies about there not being a virus could very easily
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lead you to take actions that end up putting yourself and others at risk directly.
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And so I can see why you would take this more seriously and have a different approach to
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it.
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Although it does, it does hurt things that no one, like I didn't do this in the past.
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No, when you see 200 people in a pool together, you're like, that's David Icke's fault.
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No, I don't know that's David Icke's fault.
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I mean, if they're listening.
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Probably not individually.
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If they're listening to that George Clinton song, then it is David Icke's fault.
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That could be.
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David Icke, David Icke.
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So the bottom line here is that Kerry knows exactly what the fuck is going on.
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She knows why there's demonetization and anybody who's acting honestly about this, they wouldn't
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be behaving this way.
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No.
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Trying to pretend like I didn't do anything.
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Yeah.
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Like, all right, whatever.
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So this is pretty funny to me.
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Shepard Ambilis is talking about how he's like, YouTube owes him tens of thousands of
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dollars for back revenue or something.
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Back revenue.
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Sure.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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I'm not going to chase that.
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They haven't paid revenue for about five years, so they own back revenue.
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I'm not going to chase that thread down too much, mostly because something he says in
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this next clip that is just like, oh, you just don't know what you're doing.
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A weird thing they did to me was I basically haven't used my channel like in five, six,
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seven, eight years or something like that because I got mad because they were basically
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not ever letting me monetize it, even though they never really said anything about it.
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It's like-
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I threw up it.
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I didn't figure it out.
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I don't know.
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But I stopped kind of using the platform and I was just doing my website and all that.
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So I recently come back and I start this podcast up and it's kind of going, you know, and it's,
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I mean, it's only getting thousands of views or whatever, but it's starting to pick up
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and then all of a sudden I get a notice that six videos got copyright strikes.
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Is he saying that's a conspiracy?
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I feel like he's just explaining what's going on.
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Yeah.
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In a very simple and direct way.
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There's nothing nefarious about any of this.
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Like when he's saying that, like, I, you know, I got mad at YouTube because, you know, they
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weren't letting me monetize things, but they never said it and maybe I just couldn't figure
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out how to do it.
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I think maybe you couldn't figure out how to do it.
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I think that might be the more likely scenario.
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I put the first Avengers movie on YouTube and they wouldn't let me monetize it.
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And then about six years, 10 years later, I put Avengers Endgame on YouTube and they
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wouldn't let me monetize it.
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I don't understand why.
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So the other thing too is like, yeah, those copyright strikes do happen.
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And like sometimes it's wild.
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Like I, we've posted a couple of our episodes on YouTube and we've gotten copyright strikes
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on all of them pretty much.
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And it's not because of Alex.
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It's because of the music Alex uses in and out of commercial breaks.
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So like I, I wouldn't monetize the videos anyway.
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I don't have any interest in that.
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I don't think we could make anything even if we wanted to, but we couldn't do it because
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whoever owns the rights to Silver Stallion or some Highwaymen song won't allow a monetization
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because their copyrighted work is in there.
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So I wouldn't be too surprised if it was something along those lines, even if it is like Shepard
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using footage from news broadcasts that he doesn't have the rights to.
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Stuff like that could easily get you a copyright strike.
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That doesn't mean your shit gets taken down.
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It just means that if you try to monetize it, they get a cut.
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Whoever owns the copyright of the material that you're using.
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Of course.
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So I don't know.
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I just don't, I don't, I think these people are acting like big babies.
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Yeah.
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I assume he opens every show with a horse with no name and they're notorious for being
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copyright.
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Yeah.
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And it's long too.
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It takes up most of the show.
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So Carrie is trying to, at this point, I don't think that she has decided on going with the
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subscription model and she's still trying to figure out what she's going to do about
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the demonetization.
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Sure.
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And Shepard has a dumb idea.
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What about just having your own products?
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Like Snoop Dogg does a show and he has like sneakers sitting on his desk because he sells
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the sponsor slots.
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Well, I don't know if, yeah, that's a, that's a good question.
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I mean, we are just actually creating a Camelot products right now on Zazzle.
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We have a page and we didn't, we're about to.
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And so, yeah, and you know, but that's not gonna pay the rent.
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I know that that's tough and this is what they're doing to everyone.
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They don't want this information out.
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I guess the new world order is basically finally here with this whole COVID, you know, it's,
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it's the invisible enemy really is what is, and they can use it like to their advantage.
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Yeah.
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I think one of the flaws of Shepard's plan that he's proposing is no one would pay for
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advertising.
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You know, I don't think she'd be able to sell any ads to a shoe, a shoe company.
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There's a, there's a slight difference in relative credibility and popularity between
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herself and Snoop Dogg.
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Well there's that, uh, yeah, I'm just saying she could sell some random pants.
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I think she could do it.
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Yeah.
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I think she could sell a lot of random pants.
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She could tell us about the home game gorilla and where to hide your guns.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She could totally tell us where to hide your guns.
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Space.
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Uh-huh.
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Definitely.
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Done.
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Yeah.
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I will say though, I like to imagine that she's the same level of relevant as Snoop
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Dogg and that when they did the All Cities remix of Welcome to Atlanta, they would get
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her to do the verse for California.
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Sure, sure.
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So Snoop.
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Why not?
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That would be great.
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I think we have, uh, Carrie Cassidy out there telling you about the LBC.
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If she moves to Atlanta, we know exactly what's about to happen and that's that she's going
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to drop an LP that's going to blow our minds.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, in this next clip, Shepard, uh, I think he's, he's fishing for a booking here.
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I think.
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This next clip.
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Okay.
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And, uh, Carrie's, uh, uh, response is interesting.
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You were talking about, uh, vortexes earlier.
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I had a really interesting experience in Sedona with what I think was a vortex I could tell
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you about sometime, and also I've had three very close encounters with UFOs and one was
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at dusk to the point to where I saw all the metal on the ship and the whole nine yards.
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There was four.
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I got bored one day.
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Four metals.
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You can have me on the show.
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You can have me on.
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Okay.
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But, um, yeah, I love that kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's, that's, that's fine.
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Ooh, that's not how you want it.
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That's not, uh, generally I remember back when I would do standup and I try and get
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on someone's show like, Hey, I got a good five, you know, you booked me, you know, I've
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done a few shows, you know, I got CYSK a few months ago.
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Whenever the response is, yeah, that's, that's all right.
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You know what you should do?
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Send me an email that responses, uh, not, uh, not enthused, not, not an enthused response
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from Carrie.
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I've had a lot of experiences that would go great on your show.
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Hey, I got to go, you know what?
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That's great.
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I promise you.
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We will revisit this.
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We'll get back to this.
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It's fine.
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I don't want to impose.
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So, uh, and this next clip Carrie to discusses her research into a COVID-19.
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She has some, she has some bombshells here that, uh, I mean, I don't know if she wasn't
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demonetized.
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David, I started it.
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This might actually hurt her monetization chances.
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Uh, what I can tell you is that my research says that it, this is, uh, a gray ET, uh,
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you know, AI that is, is basically been created in a lab in Wuhan.
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Oh, the guardian said that, uh, started Fort Detrick.
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They've been creating a bio weapon there.
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Then it went from there to North Carolina.
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And then Chinese woman whose name I don't have, uh, in front of me, uh, took it to the
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lab in Wuhan and added the bat DNA.
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That's from the times picking you and other animals.
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So it was more conducive, covered it with a protein sheet.
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And basically then, yeah, that's what I was.
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I'm kind of trying to pick your brain cause I'm, I'm trying to like, what I came up with
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is like all this stuff starting to tie together and it's really suspicious.
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I mean, I don't, I don't know if it's, uh,
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I don't know if it's all tying together as much as you're tying things together.
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I don't know if this is tying together.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah.
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It's all, it's all coming together.
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How is it tying together?
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Well, think of a way that it's tying together.
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Wow.
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You've got aliens now in the mix, biological weapons, you got, uh, evil scientists, right?
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It is all coming together.
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That is the progression that I was looking for.
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I mean, I don't know how necessarily dangerous, uh, you know, I would say the David Ikes
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sort of just outright denialism is, is more dangerous from just like a, what kind of behaviors
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could it, uh, like, uh, endorse standpoint, but Carrie is like, uh, this is alien, uh,
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AI, maybe less dangerous, but I would still say that's past the line.
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Yeah.
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And it's just unfortunate for her that, uh, that they noticed quite frankly, that's really
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the only thing that's going on here.
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This gets right back to our, the grift is perfect.
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If you stay in that sweet spot, if you get too big, the grift fails.
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And if you're not big enough, the grift fails.
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You have to stay in there, but it's almost the same dynamic, just generally with celebrity
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and that's like, you want to be in the middle.
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You don't want to be so, uh, popular that people start to treat you with the, like,
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you know, people saying that Tom Hanks eats children, right?
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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There's a real hassle and a danger to being that level of famous.
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Whereas like you're in the middle, your character actor, you get steady work, you're in a hundred
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million movies and people don't know who you are.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's the, that's the goal.
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That's the goal for the grift to stay in the middle.
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I want a nice, I want a nice condo.
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The end.
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The Goldilocks zone of propaganda and fraud.
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That's what you got to do.
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So, um, Shepard sort of is implying that maybe there's space stuff involved with coronavirus,
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but it's unclear.
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Um, and so Carrie, Carrie seems to think that he thinks that, uh, COVID-19 came from space,
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uh, which he doesn't really.
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This technology, this et technology that's embedded in the earth in certain very key
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places that actually was put there many, many years ago, eons ago to shoot down incoming
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asteroids, because this has been long a, again, a method of war.
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We talked to Reagan.
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There's reason to believe, of course, that Atlantis was sunk.
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Atlantis was sunk in pieces, but one of the main ways it was sent was, was through, uh,
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an asteroid hitting it.
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Sure.
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And, uh, and so on.
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So, so this is, is what goes on now.
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I know that it sounds as though you're trying to say that COVID came in on a meteor, but
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I don't.
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Well, no, no, not really.
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Although I did re do some research and that's like stuff like that is possible and when
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comments come around.
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Okay.
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Um, so what are we talking about?
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The end COVID, a strain that what we're doing, that's deep research.
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What they're doing here is like a big, big focus of their conversation is about like
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a near earth, uh, objects.
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Sure.
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Um, and, and like, uh, they're all, there's, there's been a barrage of them and Carrie's
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belief about this is that whenever there's meteors or comets, they're actually projectiles
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from interstellar war that's going on.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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And so that's, that's why they come back every 70 some years.
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That's the plan.
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That's the cycle of war.
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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It's uh, yeah.
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I am going to real be real bummed in 2040 when we fight the Vietnam war to get, yeah,
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that'll be, that'll be, that'll be a real bummer.
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Pretty sad.
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So, uh, yeah, that's their, their idea is that Carrie is espousing an idea that meteors
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and comets and your, uh, objects are generally a means of attack from aliens.
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And uh, she wants to clarify and so does shepherd that they're not saying that coronavirus is
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from space, which is really nice.
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I appreciate that.
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That's really nice of them.
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Yes.
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So there's all these rules, man.
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You know, like people have to wear, you know, you're supposed to wear masks in stores, stuff
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like that.
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Sure.
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You know, so I'm sure they're pro those, there's all, there's all kinds of rules.
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Like if you go to the beach, there's some rules you gotta follow, but you know what?
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Sometimes people at beaches don't follow rules.
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And those, my friend are the coolest most, um, let's say most semi-intelligent governors
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are opening up their States and people are, I mean, they even opened up the beaches in
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Southern California supposedly can't lay on them, which is complete nonsense.
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But nonetheless, uh, and people are ignoring those stupid rules anyway, but, um, at least
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on the cool beaches, but cool beaches, I don't think Fonzie should be leading the coronavirus
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response.
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I really want, uh, just, uh, enumeration of which beaches are cool, according to Carrie
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and which are not, I need to know the relative coolness of California beaches, Fonzie bangs
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some sand and COVID-19 disappears.
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I think that's the plan.
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Cool beach, cool beaches, bro.
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So Carrie, we know that she's known to talk to weirdos, Eddie Page, the racist Pleiadian,
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um, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, aforementioned guy with telescope.
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There's the guy with the telescope.
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There's the guy who, um, uh, made a movie.
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I don't remember his name.
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Don't worry about it.
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You don't need to worry about it.
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There's the super soldiers who are weird.
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There's both the guy who can channel people, but doesn't need to voice, uh, doesn't need
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to do a fake voice, but also not the guy who can channel people, but does not need to do
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basis voice.
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All sorts of folks.
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There's a Mark Richards, the murderer, top, top captain murderer, Simon Parks, the former
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MP, uh, who has sex with aliens.
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I still like him.
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I still think he's a good guy.
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I don't know about that.
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Um, so it's a, it's a, it's a wacky bunch.
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She's got a cast of characters.
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Bunch of weirdos, but it turns out she had some other more credible sources.
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Now I can't say this is for sure, but I can tell you that I have direct contact with so-called
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white hats who have contact with the Trump team, uh, and, and the Q team, if you will.
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And the Q team sort of fly thing that just blew in anyway.
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There was a fly thing that flew in.
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It can just be a fly.
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I feel like we're dealing with Freud here.
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Sometimes the fly is just a fly.
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It's the secret space program trying to monitor.
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And I can tell you that, uh, that Trump's latest statements about how he's rolling out
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this, um, what did he call it?
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Um, God, she's great on tech.
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Rapid fire.
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I think that's him.
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Okay.
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Sort of.
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But it's, it's like, in other words, he is trying in a race with Gates, who is working
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with Gates is working with DARPA and department of defense.
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Now, how does that work?
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Government is in charge of the department of defense and Gates is, is trying to one
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up Trump.
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What does that even mean in getting a virus?
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I mean a virus, a vaccine.
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So if you're, if you're following here, we got Carrie is saying that she has people that
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she's in direct contact with who are involved with Trump's team at the Q team course.
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Cause of course, Gary's a big Q and odd person.
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Those are totally real.
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Uh huh.
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Very much.
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And they are telling her that Trump saying that we're going to try and fast track a vaccine
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is really just him trying to race Bill Gates because Bill Gates is going to make an evil
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vaccine.
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Right?
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Trump is going to make a good vaccine.
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I really don't like this angle.
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So stupid.
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I just wish everybody could hate Bill Gates for the same reason I hate Bill Gates, which
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is purely, he has too much money.
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Sure.
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There are plenty of valid criticisms and some of them have to do with his money.
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Some have to do with philanthropic stuff.
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There are some questions, but let's just get rid of his money and then we're all fine.
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It's ridiculous the way these people are doing this, but you know what?
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I actually think that this is kind of a positive.
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And what I see that as, and it maybe has a buried negative within it, but it feels like
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it's their way of sort of psychologically dealing with the inevitability of needing
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a vaccine about this.
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Yeah.
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That's a really good point.
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Yeah.
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Coming up with this storyline where Trump made a good one, if that's what leads them
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to get vaccinated, whatever.
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Yeah.
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Because if you accept the vaccine, fine, I will let you get there how you get there.
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I think that like I said, there's a very bad thing in it though too, which is like it could
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further get people down into the only Trump can save us kind of mentality, which is bad.
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But ultimately in a public health crisis, if that's how you're getting a vaccine, if
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that's the story you tell yourself, whatever.
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Like a vaccine is going to come and they're not going to give Trump credit for it, right?
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Like there's no way they don't say, well, it's because Trump did blah.
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Most likely.
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The end.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So, but you see these things that Trump's doing, like signaling that he's okay with
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vaccines and stuff.
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Oh, I thought it was being racist and referencing the protocols of the elders of Zion in Henry
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Ford level, like I like Hitler, like that kind of stuff.
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Well, there's those things, but we don't talk about that.
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Oh, okay.
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Good call.
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Yeah.
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That stuff may, that's fake news.
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Gotcha.
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Or something.
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No, it's important for weirdos like Kerry and Alex to talk about the stuff like when
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Trump says, Hey, we're doing this stuff with the vaccine.
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Because they're so against vaccines that they have to figure out how to make it okay.
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Because otherwise it should be a thing where it's like, fuck Trump, we're out of this.
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And the way that you can do this is by saying that he's.
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There's a competitive vaccine.
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Well there's that.
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And you have to turn it into like, it's the art of war for the chest thing.
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Sure.
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People don't understand how Trump operates and how don't they team operate, but don't
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they doing is, you know, I've, I've done a few videos on this, but they're using this
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idea of game, you know, the state of the game and, and, and what we call art of war there.
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They're trying to merge with and not appear to be against what they are actually working
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against.
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And so they're, they're going along, if you could say on a parallel track to the enemy
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up into a certain point when they intend to basically overtake them and, and, and take
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control.
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So, or they're not, you know, that's also a possibility.
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How is it that that hurts my brain more than theirs or because it's still fantasy story
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they're telling themselves, like the level of cognitive dissonance there makes my brain
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like explode with, I need like 10 Tylenol and they're just like, well, obviously 10
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million.
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Yeah.
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It's the same thing with the Q stuff that constantly never happens.
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It's like, we're going down this road and then there's going to be a hard right turn.
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Right.
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And that turn never comes.
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And it's just another.
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This is just that mentality.
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It's good luck.
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Good luck guys.
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Insane.
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Insane.
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So we have this last clip here.
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It's a little bit of a shorter interview because there's really not a whole lot going on.
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So far.
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She has dropped some bombs of interesting information, cool beaches, you know, ogre
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is telling you, you're a bunch of nerds for opening up your beaches, cool beaches.
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And I love, uh, the King Arthur or something or 30 and the legend is real.
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So, but in this last clip we see a demonstration of something that really confuses me and I'm
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not actually certain whether these people are joking or not.
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Merlin aged backwards.
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Now I know that now, see, that's the thing that a lot of people get stuck on.
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You know, you read the F Scott Fitzgerald, Benjamin Button, that's bullshit.
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He couldn't do any magic.
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What's the point.
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Good point.
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Next.
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Um, so I don't, I need you to help me try and get to the bottom of, if they're joking,
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I think that they're joking.
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I am underprepared drilling outside all of a sudden I'm going to have to shut the door.
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That's all right.
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Go ahead.
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No, it's typical deep state.
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Yeah, no, that happens to me.
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They start, uh, mowing lawns and you know, helicopters start hovering over the house.
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Do you think they're joking?
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Absolutely not.
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I can't tell cause he's laughing.
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Shepherd's absolutely not.
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Absolutely not.
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Absolutely.
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I can't tell if they really think that like some drilling and some construction that's
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going on or some neighbor mowing a lawn is a deep state attack when you're trying to
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record something.
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It's that to me is if they're not joking.
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That's fucking scary.
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Right.
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That level of paranoia is really, really weird.
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What I hear is like when I make a joke about something that's actually happening in my
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life, you know, like I, I, I, I make a joke where it's like, joke gets too real person
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did this and here's my commentary on that.
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Not like, uh, here's a fun fanciful situation that I'm making up.
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I am not, uh, I'm not doing some Mike Wiley bullshit or right.
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I'm telling truth.
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Dan.
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So you think that there's a certain amount of discomfort that is causing the last totally.
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They are absolutely telling the truth on what they believe is happening.
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That's gotta be a frustrating way to live.
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Isn't it hilarious how they're doing this?
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Yeah.
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Isn't it hilarious that they're doing this or isn't it hilarious if they were doing this?
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It's hilarious that the evil people are using a lawnmower and not a fucking laser beam.
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Right.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess it does sort of fit in line with things like Gary thinking, uh, there's
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like a scaler attack problems or a attack from globalists or the world order.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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I mean, that's, that's real.
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That's real trouble.
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You know, I mean, I could just say that my window leaking was a Patriot attack.
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That's exactly what it was.
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Yeah.
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Did you not notice that?
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How fun is that?
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How fun is that?
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Did you not notice that?
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That must be what's going on.
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There was an American flag in water dripping from your windows.
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I did notice, this is weird, I did notice the next day I walked outside, I looked up
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at my window and there was a don't tread on me flag.
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I thought that was weird, but I thought it was a coincidence.
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Well, you were wrong.
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Yeah.
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Do you know how many States were on that fake American water flag?
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How many?
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37.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I mean that, that seems like a really unsatisfying and frustrating way to look at things.
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Like everything is an attack.
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Everything must be coordinated in some way.
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It's just oof.
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But, uh, anyway, that brings us to the end of this.
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What I find strange about that is that the paranoia is so severe and yet is treated mockingly.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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You mean?
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I believe that they believe that they are under attack, but the implications of their
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attack is so massive and so huge that it seems ridiculous to treat it as like, oh man, don't
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you see how weird it is that this global interstellar fucking cabal of monsters combined with aliens
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is using lawn mowers?
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Like do you not understand how much more terrifying it is that they use lawn mowers?
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See I don't think that that's what he's laughing about.
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I don't think so either.
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I think your analysis is very interesting and there is a farce to it.
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Um, I don't know, it's, it really, it's unsettling to me.
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But if this is, if this is the end, then this is the end for Carrie.
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This is the end my friend.
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It's kind of a fitting end because one, it's boring.
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And ultimately that's something that everyone needs to know is that Carrie is very boring.
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The show is incredibly boring except for the parts that I end up finding to discuss.
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Second, the reason that this is kind of a fitting, um, uh, close coda to Carrie is that
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she's being interviewed by somebody who is an info wars associate or someone who is actually
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like a guest pretty regularly on Alex's show and someone who Alex wanted to fucking hire.
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So you, you'd see this like these two important pieces.
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She's boring and this is pretty much become at this point, very similar.
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Her space of the secret space program, weirdo alien shit is more or less normal right wing
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stuff now.
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Their Venn diagram has no further, uh, uh, you know, no further nonconnection points.
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Yeah.
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Like it's all one big perfect circle.
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Yeah, it does.
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It does.
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It feels like it's becoming more and more that, and so maybe we don't need her anymore.
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I think she's done well.
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Good luck on your subscription service.
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Uh, I wish you, I guess the worst carry.
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I don't know what else to say.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Uh, good luck.
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It'll be what it is.
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Yeah.
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