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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question.
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What up?
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Have you ever taken a martial arts class?
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Yeah, maybe a little bit, but only for a very short period of time.
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What was it?
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I think it was Judo.
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Judo?
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Like my brother was, he took Judo when we were much younger and I think I tried to get
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laid on the act a little bit, but I didn't, it wasn't for me.
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It wasn't for you?
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No, not much.
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Was there any martial art that you were attracted to, like did you even watch like Kung Fu movies
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or anything like that?
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Are you a Bruce Lee guy?
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Not really.
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Not really?
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One of the things in my household growing up was like my parents were pretty like controlling
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about media that we watched.
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Right, of course.
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You know, there was very, like things that were at all violent were kind of frowned upon
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and not really allowed in the house, so I don't know if it was like a hard and fast
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rule against martial arts movies, but like they definitely weren't something that was
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like something in my dad's interests that would have allowed it to get past the restrictions
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of like, no, you're watching PBS and that's it.
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Your dad's not an enter the dragon guy.
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No, no.
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Maybe a Monty Python movie or something.
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We could watch like mystery science theater and stuff like that, you know, but so maybe
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some Kung Fu stuff that was made fun of on the satellite of love.
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All right.
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Other than that, no, I don't know.
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It was never a big part of my growing up martial arts.
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Have you ever had any interest in one particularly like if you had to choose one now, can you
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even think of list like three martial arts?
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Karate.
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Tudo.
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Taekwondo.
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Done.
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Akido.
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Isn't that one?
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Akido?
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Yes, that is one.
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Great.
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That's that's your Steven Seagal right there.
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That's probably where I pulled the name from.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It's not.
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I have nothing to respect for people who are drawn to the martial arts.
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I understand the discipline involved is very, you know, high level.
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But no, it's not for me.
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My body does not.
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You know, like another thing, too, is like you got to get hit.
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I'm not into that.
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You don't have to get you got to fall like there's people, you know, well, you're throwing
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people in practice.
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You've got to be the one who gets thrown.
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I mean, early on, they teach you how to fall correctly.
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Wow.
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That's what they said about skateboarding.
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Never quite learned how to fall off that board.
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Fair enough.
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It's a podcast where I don't know much about martial arts, but I do know a lot about Alex
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Jones.
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And I know quite a bit about the former and nothing about the latter.
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Right.
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So, Jordan, today, you know how when you drink booze, you get hungover?
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You know how that's a thing that happens?
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I take it Alex is real hungover.
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No, I am experiencing what I could describe as an Alex Jones hangover from that Roger
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deposition on Friday.
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Right.
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Right.
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And that's the sweetest of of the divine juice.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And then coming back to Alex Jones is the hangover part.
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Oh, God.
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I spent one night having so much fun and now I'm miserable for the rest of the week.
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Yeah.
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So getting ready for this episode was definitely like, why can't it always be like talking
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about Rogers deposition?
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So it's kind of a it was a tough transition, but we need to switch to a deposition only
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podcast if we just go through a bunch of deposition, if it were possible, like if there were enough
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source material of info wars, people being deposed all day, all day, all day, 100% nonstop.
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We need to branch out because what makes it so fascinating is like they're they have to
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be there.
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Yeah.
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They're forced to answer questions.
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And that's a really interesting dynamic.
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But what I thought we would do today is we are going to go over, I actually intended
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to do a bunch of days, but it's just not possible.
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We're going over February 20th, 2020, I'm Dan, this is 2020.
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And the reason for the reason for that is that that's the day that Roger got sentenced.
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So it seems like it would be a good idea to see how Alex took the news, what was going
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on on his show on that day.
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I should say that I also prepared February 16th, which was Sunday's show, but we're not
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going to go over that, but I think that it bears mentioning something.
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And that is that max Kaiser, the guy of max coin fame, he was on and Alex endorsed Bitcoin.
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It's not to the extent that like, I don't know, some of these real serious, like, like
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a max Kaiser, he's a very serious proponent of Bitcoin.
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Alex was having a conversation with him about it being gold 2.0 and there we go.
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It was a much more full throated announcement than I've ever heard him give.
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He's always been very skeptical and suspicious of Bitcoin and it was, we can't hold it in
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your hand.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to cover that or at least mention it because if you'd see some signs in the
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future of things related to that, it's good to know like, Oh, max Kaiser was on the show
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and they, they talked about how great Bitcoin is.
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Everybody's got to get it.
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Somehow Alex is going to start his own Bitcoin exchange or something like that.
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Alex coin.
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Yeah.
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Ooh, not good.
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So we're going to get into the 20th here.
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It's a rangy episode.
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There's a lot of real serious bullshit going on.
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But before we do, we got to take a moment to say, thank you to some folks who have signed
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up with the shoe or sporting things.
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So first Joseph, thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk next, Anthony.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Anthony.
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Thank you, Anthony.
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Next to Tim.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, Tony.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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Next Tim.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Next Tim.
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Thank you, Tim.
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Next Citrus Flavor.
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with three Rs.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much, citrus flavor.
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Next Mark, thank you so much.
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You are now policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks Mark.
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Oh, three Rs and then finally like say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated
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level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So J.P.
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monitor.
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Thank you so much.
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Your now technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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That's fantastic, have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie
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on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, J.P. McMangler.
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Yes, thank you very much, J.P.
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It'd be very helpful.
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So, we start off the show on February 20th,
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and of course we have advanced knowledge of this
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because we're looking at it from the future.
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Right, right, right.
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The Nazis have invaded France, yes.
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So we know that Roger Stone has gotten 40 months.
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The sentence was 40 months.
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Alex starts the show off with a prediction.
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He thinks the judge is gonna throw the book at him.
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Okay.
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The swan creature, Amy Berman Jackson, the Obamaoid,
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hemorrhoid in black robes,
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was always gonna throw the book at Roger Stone
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because that's what she does
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as a political show trial commissar,
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a political creature of tyranny.
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Don't turn around.
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Well, she just came out about 30 minutes ago
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before they went to recess
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and signaled she's gonna throw the book at Stone.
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Seven, nine, or 11 years.
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To commissars in town, uh, uh, oh.
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Yeah, so Alex's prediction's a little bit off.
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He was a little bit off, yeah.
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So, you should just go, hey, look, not for nothing.
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Alex's instincts on a macro scale are bad.
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And on a micro scale, they are also bad.
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He is just really bad at just about all of this stuff.
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His sense of things, his instincts.
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So, most of the beginning of this show,
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I would say a large portion of the beginning of this show,
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is Owen Schroyer is there at the courthouse
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waiting for the verdict.
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And Alex and him, they try and do a little bit
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of an interview where Alex is talking to Owen.
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What's it like on the ground?
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But Owen starts getting heckled by people
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and it completely deteriorates into,
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it's one of the more surreal things I've heard.
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And one of the more transparently publicity,
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stunty things I've seen Alex do in my time covering him.
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But we have a little bit of a section here
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where they're actually having a conversation.
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And Owen is out of line.
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They see a signal that she's about to come back
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from recess and throw the book at him.
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I predict she gives him seven years.
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She said, oh, it could be 11 to make it sound
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like she's lenient and gracious for giving him seven years
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I'm predicting in the next hour, Owen Schroyer.
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Well, Alex, you know, it's incredible too
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because this is an obvious mistrial
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just based on the technicalities alone.
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The jury was obviously corrupt.
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The jurors committed crimes in fact,
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when they lied on the jury questionnaire
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about running for office
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and about posting publicly about this case, so.
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So, Owen is talking about the jury for a woman,
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Tamika Hart, who has become a bit of a target
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for right-wing media and their desperate attempts
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to come up with a reason for why Roger was found guilty
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and is going to prison.
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And it's because he committed the crimes.
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Well, that's what globalists say.
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Oh, damn it, always.
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On a recent episode, we talked about how Mike Cernovich
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was pushing this theory that she had not disclosed
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that she'd run for office as a Democrat
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during the jury selection process.
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But as far as I can tell, this has not been proven
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in any way.
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All the proof Cernovich offers is the fact
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that she had run for office
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and that one of the questions potential jurors are asked
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is if they've ever run for office.
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This is not an indication that she lied
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in response to the question.
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There's no proof that answering yes would be disqualifying.
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There's nothing here.
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All this amounts to is an argument
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that jurors are asked this question.
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She had run for office.
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She was on the jury.
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Therefore, she must have lied about running for office.
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The logic is full of holes.
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And without any proof, this is just people talking shit.
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Ms. Hart has been the target of such vitriol
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that a fellow juror named Seth Cousins
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came out and spoke with USA Today
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about how shitty this all is.
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He said, quote, the irony here is that Tameka Hart
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was perhaps the strongest advocate in the room
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for a rigorous process for the rights of the defendant
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and for making sure that we took it seriously
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and looked at each charge.
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Cousins went on to say, quote, without her in the room,
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we would have returned the same verdict
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and we would have returned it more quickly
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and without looking as deeply into the evidence.
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I'm firmly convinced of that.
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Owen and the right wing media's theory
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that Ms. Hart lied when being questioned
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is based on nothing other than their supposition.
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You even heard that being echoed by Norm Patis
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when he was on Alex's show last week.
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He hadn't even read the transcripts
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but was saying if she'd not disclosed it,
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it would be a cause for concern.
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Well, guess what?
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She didn't lie about it.
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There was an article in The Hill published on February 15th
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which includes this line, quote, the brief examination
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of the voir dire hearing shows that Hart did disclose
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her ties to the Democratic Party.
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US District Judge Amy Berman Jackson
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asked if Hart's political history
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would prevent her from being fair
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and Hart assured her it would not.
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Most of the non-shithead right wing propaganda sources
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I can find are really clear that Hart's background
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was brought up in her voir dire.
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Her potential bias was established by that history
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and Rogers' lawyers had every opportunity to question her
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and to eliminate her from the jury pool if they wanted to,
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which they didn't do.
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This is just sad shit.
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These people are so desperate to defend Roger
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that this is the level of defense they can come up with,
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speculating wildly about a juror lying in a response
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to a question that it turns out she answered honestly.
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Also, not for nothing, what Owen is doing
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is directly accusing Hart of a crime
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with no evidence to support the accusations.
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This is dangerous territory for a guy working at a place
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that is drowning in defamation claims.
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Hey, come on, what's one more?
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It's just another drop in the bucket.
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You would have thought that his time working with Roger
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on the war room would have trained him
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to be a little slicker.
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Eh, nope, can't copy that.
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Yeah, turns out not the case.
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It's such like, this is just like the baseline
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of any Democrat on any jury is impossible.
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That's exactly right.
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You're not allowed, if you're a Democrat,
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you're not allowed to judge anyone ever
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because you're evil automatically.
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That's the functioning legal theory that's animating
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this rhetoric, it is non-Trump lovers
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can't judge Trump lovers.
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Exactly.
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Because there is a supposition of inability
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to see past political belief or whatever.
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Right.
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And that's dangerous.
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Which only reveals that they are unable
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to see past that kind of situation.
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Or unwilling.
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Or unwilling, that's possible.
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But like, that's a dangerous road to go down.
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I mean, what you're asking for is essentially
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ending up with like a split judicial system
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for people with different political beliefs.
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Eh, it's not that far off from what we have now.
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Well.
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It would just not be based on race.
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It would be.
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And class.
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It would be fine.
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Yeah.
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So Alex wants to defend Roger and like, look, it's tough.
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It's tough because there's a lot of evidence
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that he did the things he's accused of.
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And some of those things are sending really threatening
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messages to Randy Credico when Credico said
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that he wasn't going to plead the fifth
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and he was going to talk to Mueller's investigators.
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And you know, hey, when you make threats
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towards someone who's going to go testify,
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it kind of tends to lend the idea
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that you're trying to threaten them into not testifying.
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No, that's just how he signs off on all his texts.
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He's just like, hey ma, it's great to talk to you.
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Next time I see you, I'm going to murder your dog.
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Anyway, let's have a great time.
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It's interesting you bring up the dog thing
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because Alex, he actually has an explanation for that.
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Oh no.
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That we're not considering.
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Okay.
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Jackson says it's nice that Credico has forgiven Stone
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and that he didn't believe that Stone
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would really kill him or his dog.
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That says more about Credico than it does Stone,
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the judge says.
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By the way, Stone was saying,
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I'll take that dog away from you.
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You're not feeding it enough.
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According to Stone, Credico was having problems
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not attacking Credico.
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Okay.
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All right, Alex.
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All right.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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That really?
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The surrounding context of Roger's threat
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to take that dog away from you seems to not support
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Alex's claim that he was set out of Roger's
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good-hearted concern for the dog's diet.
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The texts say, you're a rat, you're a stoolie.
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You backstab your friends.
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Or what about the time,
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just after threatening to take his dog away,
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he said, quote, I'm so ready, let's get it on.
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Prepare to die, cocksucker.
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All right, okay.
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That tends to give some context to the,
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I'm gonna take your dog away from you.
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Let's recontextualize it.
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Rat, you're a rat, that's what you've been feeding your dog.
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Stoolie, you trained your dog to sit on a stool.
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What is not feeding your dog correctly
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but stabbing your dog in the back?
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It all makes perfect sense to me.
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This is the saddest shit, man.
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I could respect Alex saying that Roger
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talked shit to Credico but that it shouldn't matter.
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It's just locker room talk or something.
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At least that would be an attempt
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to spin this within the realm of reality.
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But this week, shit, man, Alex really expects people
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to believe that Roger was concerned
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that Randy wasn't feeding his dog enough
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and so he's gonna take the dog for its own good.
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That's sad.
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Alex should be ashamed of himself
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trying to pitch something like that.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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Yeah, you dick.
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So Alex is talking about Randy Credico and this situation
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and he says a few things that I find
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particularly unsettling.
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I have been talking to Credico but that's off record.
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Why have you been talking to Randy Credico?
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I assume to interfere with another trial.
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I don't know if it, I mean, it's certainly not appropriate
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the idea that a witness in Roger's trial
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would be having back channel communications with Alex.
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I'm not actually sure if that is happening
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but if it is, I just wanted to put this in the episode
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that Alex is claiming.
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Just in case it's illegal.
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It's now on the record, Alex has claimed
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that he's been in contact with a witness in Stone's trial.
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Yeah, I mean, they've been texting him.
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Alex has been sending him dog food just of a higher quality.
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I think Alex is a great guy in this circumstance.
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So Alex says that he's been in contact with Credico
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and I'm like, that's not great.
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But then he says something else that's like,
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oh boy, this could get weird.
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He got crosswise with Stone, bantering back and forth
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with tough guy talk and he now just thinks
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it's terrible what's happening to Stone.
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The judge says she doesn't care.
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And so look for him to be on the show today.
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What?
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I expect the judge to throw Roger directly into jail today.
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Another bad prediction.
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And Randy Credico, Alex is saying
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he's gonna be on the show today.
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He is not gonna be on the show.
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Alex teases also throughout the rest of the show,
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we have a special guest coming up.
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He frequently, while having Owen Schroyer co-hosting
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with him remotely, is like, I gotta go call
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Randy Credico, like he's making calls
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and like disappearing while Owen is on remote.
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It's like, oh man, I wonder if Randy Credico
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is gonna show up on this episode.
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So Alex is more just harassing Randy to show up on it.
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Possible based on what we're describing here.
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He also might just actually not be talking to him,
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but like talking to Roger's friends or something.
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Sure, sure, sure, could be.
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Like as Tyler Nixon, one of Roger's personal attorneys
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does show up on this episode and it's the lamest shit.
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It's just like, ah, Roger's great, who cares?
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Who among us hasn't fucked a rat?
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So, you know, you get this weirdness on Infowars sometimes.
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Sometimes you just hear things and you're like,
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I don't know what the fuck is going on.
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Like when Schroyer talks.
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Sure, so Alex is talking about how
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Trump is gonna pardon Roger and that's great.
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Yeah.
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Sure, sure.
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In discussion of that, he talks about other pardons
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and you might be confused when you hear this.
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He pardoned or gave clemency, cut the sentence down,
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Blagojevich, and Blagojevich was out in one hour
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and back on an airplane flying home to Chicago.
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That's the power of the executive of We the People.
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We elected the president, he wields our veto power
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over the witch judges, over the out of control systems.
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So you might think it's weird to hear Alex be pretty okay
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with Trump pardoning notoriously corrupt
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former governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich.
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Dan, he was a political prisoner.
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You'd be right to think that was weird.
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It is very weird.
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On the surface, it seems like the thing
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Alex would be very opposed to.
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Blago was a Democrat in the most corruptly democratic state
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in the country, part of the same machine
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that he thinks brought Barack Obama into the world.
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Like, this is not somebody who Alex would be pulling for.
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But you always have to remember that Infowars is weird.
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Sometimes they have positions you wouldn't expect,
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and that is the case with Rod Blagojevich.
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I would almost guarantee that if we went back
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to any time where Blagojevich was governor,
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at some point, Alex would have talked
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endless amounts of shit about how he should be in jail.
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Well, possibly, but not after he got arrested.
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Because according to Infowars' lore,
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Blagojevich wasn't arrested because he was trying
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to profit off the filling of Obama's former Senate seat,
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among other flagrantly corrupt actions.
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He was taken down because he dared stand up
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to the Bank of America, which is, of course,
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part of the Federal Reserve System,
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and if you fuck with the Fed, you end up like Blago.
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This narrative is based on the fact that
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on December 8th, 2008, Blagojevich restricted
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government agencies from working with Bank of America
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until they restored credit to the Republic Windows and Doors,
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a factory in Illinois that had been put into bankruptcy
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and whose employees were staging a sit-in.
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The next day, on December 9th, Blagojevich was arrested
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on his corruption charges.
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These things happened close to each other in time,
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therefore, a causal relationship has been established,
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and therefore, we know that Blagojevich was a good guy
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who was just trying to fight the Fed and got screwed.
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As always, on Infowars, correlation not only
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equals causation, it doesn't even matter anyways,
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they're gonna say whatever they want.
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Right, the Infowars narrative makes it sound like
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Blagojevich was trying to permanently sever relations
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between the state of Illinois and Bank of America,
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which is absolutely not the case.
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An article on Infowars says that he made a, quote,
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declaration that Illinois would no longer deal
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with Bank of America, but that's just silly.
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It was a negotiation tactic he was using to try
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and save a factory where employees were protesting.
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Articles from the time are really clear about this,
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like this one from December 8th
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in the State Journal Register.
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Quote, Governor Rod Blagojevich has ordered
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all state agencies to stop doing business
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with Bank of America to pressure the company
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to help workers who are staging a sit-in
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at a shuttered Chicago plant.
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Blagojevich says banks got bailout money
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and should provide lines of credit to businesses
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that need it so workers can keep working.
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The employees were staging a sit-in
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because they were informed that they were going
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out of business with no notice,
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and they didn't receive pay or any benefits.
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Ultimately, Bank of America announced a settlement
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on December 10th, where they would create a fund
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of $1.75 million to take care of the workers
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who were owed back pay, severance,
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vacation time, and whatnot.
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This achievement was possibly helped
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by Blagojevich's action, but it was,
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in any way, it was not infected at all by his arrest.
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The real win was because the workers stood their ground
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and because of the support of the Union Electrical,
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Radio, and Machine Workers of America Union.
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Anyway, Infowars is super anti-union,
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so they don't tend to get into the details
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of the actual story.
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Ooh, they don't wanna do that.
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No, they prefer just to pretend that Blago
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exiled Bank of America from Illinois
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and then was arrested the next day
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because he was a threat to the Federal Reserve.
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This is how children tell stories,
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and that's the level of shit that we're dealing with.
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But it helps explain why Alex is really okay
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with Trump pardoning Blagojevich.
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Yeah, of course.
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Which seems like something that would not make sense.
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No, it makes no sense.
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It's because deep Infowars lore involving Blagojevich
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and Bank of America.
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That's insane to me.
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Yeah.
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That is a just, how do you?
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I didn't even realize that until I looked into it.
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Why would you, why, what, why, huh?
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I just don't understand, I don't understand.
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Also, I think it would be very funny if we woke up,
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because there's a Bank of America near where we live.
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There's Bank of America everywhere.
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Everywhere, just like walk down the street
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and it's shuttered with giant Blagojevich
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stopped us signs, like that'd be great.
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It's less about like kicking the Bank of America out.
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It's more like you can't,
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state agencies can't do business with it.
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So the chains would still be open, you know, like the ATMs.
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But anyway, it was all just a negotiation tactic
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to help workers that were hurt by the downturn
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in the economy, bailouts and what have you.
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I hate a force.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's very simplistic stuff.
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I don't like them.
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No, they're not great.
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So anyway, Alex is cool with Blagojevich.
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Sure.
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Another reason Chicago hates Alex Jones.
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So Owen's out there at the courthouse
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and up to this point, it's been going okay.
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Alex and him have been talking about how Roger got screwed
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and Trump's gonna pardon him.
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And then the inevitable happens
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and other people get involved.
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Ooh, that's dangerous.
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They're trying to harass me right now.
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Hey, let's talk to him.
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Let's go talk to him because I know
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somebody screamed at Roger that he was a traitor,
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that he's a russian.
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Because he was convicted by 12 people
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for committing the crime.
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So why are you-
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Punch him.
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He didn't touch them.
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What?
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We had to cut the audio off.
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They assaulted him.
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It's all on video.
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And then they said that he attacked them.
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They did have to cut
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because the guy said the F word.
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He said fuck.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Fuck you.
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Yeah, but I don't know.
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I went and I watched the video
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and I don't see what happened there.
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Like I don't know if like Owen was pushing this guy
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or the camera man possibly pushed this guy.
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But the guy who says don't fucking push me,
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that's what he says.
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I don't know.
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The video doesn't show that he wasn't pushed.
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I don't know what to make of this,
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but it seems like hey, you know,
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maybe somebody bumped into somebody
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and everybody's getting mad at each other.
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Emotions are running high
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because info horse is there and everybody is furious.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we get to this turning into publicity stunt.
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Of course.
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Out and out now.
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And Alex is just telling Owen what to do.
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He's like-
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He's a puppet master?
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Yes, 100%.
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Okay, okay.
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America's back.
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You better get used to it.
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Keep going Owen.
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Yeah, you want to see an innocent man go to jail.
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You celebrate like a Nazi.
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You come out here like a Nazi
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and celebrate an innocent man going to jail.
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An innocent man.
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Ignore the rat people.
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Ignore the rat guy and go back to the media.
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Don't stop.
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Go back to the corrupt corporate media.
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Look at those stooges waiting for their orders.
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See, there's a real fun irony.
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I'm not done yet.
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Keep going.
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Oh, don't stop.
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There's a real delicious irony in Alex telling Owen
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to go yell at the media who are waiting on orders
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when he's giving Owen orders.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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See, they're waiting for orders.
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I'm giving you orders.
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We've got the initiative.
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On its face, it's a little-
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It's like World War II.
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Yeah.
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So this goes on quite a while.
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Oh boy.
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Yeah, shame on you.
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Tell them for me.
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Shame on you, MSM.
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Shame on you, MSM.
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Covering up the Clinton pedophile rings.
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Sure.
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What a shame.
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You come out here and demonize Infowars,
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but all the mainstream news covered up pedophile rings.
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All the mainstream news covered up death preemptive.
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Look at you.
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You all are subordinate.
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All of you.
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You're all complicit.
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You can make fun of me and make fun of me,
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but I'm out here standing for truth.
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Tell them Infowars.com lives.
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Okay.
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All right, Alex.
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This is so weird.
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It is.
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It's like, you know when somebody's got the earpiece in
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and you clearly know that they're getting instructions
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in you, but you don't hear what's in the earpiece.
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Right.
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You know, this is both happening at the same time
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and you're like, is this a joke?
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What's happening right now?
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Yeah.
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Am I psychic?
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It's the sort of thing that maybe what Infowars should do
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from a presentation aspect is just go to the video of Owen.
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That would make sense.
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You know, it seems like showing both parts looks sad.
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Yeah.
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A little bit.
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Cause Alex is like too over eager to be out there itself.
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And he's clearly like bummed out that,
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oh, it isn't doing this exactly right.
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Like you can hear it and be like,
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yeah, Infowars.com lives.
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Get a plug in.
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I'm seen as a dad or whatever it is.
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People are looking at you.
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Get a fucking plug in.
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And it gets so fucking obvious that that's what Alex
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is really trying to direct Owen to do.
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Owen Schroyer, listen,
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you've got a lot of cameras on you.
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Listen to me.
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I'm going to go to break for three minutes, Owen.
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You just keep going.
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Cause you're on a bunch of those streams right now out
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there. You keep going for four minutes, three minutes.
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We'll come back from break and we'll go right to Owen
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Schroyer, but keep letting them have it.
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It's too obvious when he's telling him,
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like you've got a bunch of cameras on you right now.
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Fox news is covering you out there.
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Look, get Infowars name out there.
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Look, dude, we're going to go to commercial,
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but you got to keep going.
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Owen, you're doing great.
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You're doing great.
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You're getting the name out there.
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Free press, free press.
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Owen, seriously.
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It's ridiculous.
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It does have a feel of like the, of like dad being like,
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okay, no, you got to harness your anger though.
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I've been angry the whole time,
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but you can't let it get a hold of you.
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You got to make sure you're promoting while you're angry.
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Get rid of the anger.
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It's fake.
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We're not trying to be angry.
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That is a, that is a slight piece of it too.
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The, the, like Alex is trying to explain to Owen,
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like, look, people are going to yell at you.
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Ignore them.
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Don't worry.
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Ignore them.
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Yeah.
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Cameras.
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Focus.
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Cameras.
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And so they go to break and they, they come back.
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And it turns out that Owen,
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he left that area and found another press gaggle.
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Can't.
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You get in there and let them have it.
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Owen Troyer live at the swamp,
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entering another press gaggle for radio listeners,
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live feeds, band on video.
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Owen, you're, you're in charge.
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Trying to figure out where to go here.
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Just march right in front of those cameras.
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You march in front of those cameras.
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The cameras are what's important.
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This is sad.
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God, he should just have like levers
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and pulleys that it makes Owen's arm go up and down.
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This is the way that monsters respond
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to things like this.
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Like he doesn't give a fuck.
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Like, I mean, obviously he wants Roger pardoned,
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but bigger situation is like, there's a lot of media on this.
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This is a prime opportunity for Info Wars.
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It feels like if this was Roger's funeral,
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he would be like, oh no, it's terrible, Roger.
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But what Roger would have wanted is for you
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to scream Info Wars at all the cameras.
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Yes, for sure.
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That's what he would really have wanted you to do.
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Yes, he was a soldier.
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Yeah, the honor is memory.
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So during the first hour of the show,
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the verdict comes in and Alex goes directly
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to Fox News coverage of the verdict.
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Let's go ahead and actually cut to the Fox News live feed
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that Owen was just live on a moment ago.
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Let's cut to Fox News.
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Talking with his attorneys today.
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So what was the actual reaction when we found out
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it was three years and four months
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and not anywhere near the seven to nine years
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that originally had been prosecutor's recommendation?
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Well, his defense team breathed a sigh of relief.
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Stone did not make much emotion from what I'm reading here.
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And you know, it's also customary for the defendant
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usually to speak before the judge
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just before they're sentenced.
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He was given that opportunity today, but he declined.
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He said that he had nothing further to add.
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Roger Stone is not someone that shies away from comments
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or the camera, as we know.
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So it remains to be seen though,
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if he'll say something when he leaves here.
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I suspect he'll probably still be under that gag order
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because this is still an ongoing case.
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The judge still has jurisdiction.
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Yeah, don't you love it?
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Everybody else can talk,
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but the innocent person now given three plus years.
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So you have a situation where Alex started the show
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with his prediction that he's going to get seven, nine,
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11 years, and they're going to take him away in handcuffs.
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They're going to throw the book at him.
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All of this has not come true.
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He got a little over three years.
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He's probably not going to serve
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even if he doesn't get a pardon.
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He'll still only be in for like a year or whatever.
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So that failed.
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He's like the globalist swamp
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who wants to destroy this man, that failed.
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He's going to be taken away in handcuffs.
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No, he wasn't.
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He's at home preparing to go to prison as we speak.
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So that prediction failed.
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So now what do you complain about?
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Gag order.
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Great, great.
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There's always something.
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No matter what, whatever prediction fails to materialize,
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there will be some way you can take the narrative
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and that's all that's going on here.
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I have a question.
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Great, I love questions.
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Alex can't possibly think he's innocent
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of the charges, right?
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So he has to think that what Roger did wasn't illegal,
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or if it was, it shouldn't be, right?
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I don't know.
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I think at that point when you're asking that,
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you're asking me to assume what's in Alex's head.
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Oh, that's fair.
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I don't believe that he can think
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that Roger didn't do the things
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that have been demonstrated that he did.
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It can't be possible, right?
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That seems difficult for me.
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Even Roger wouldn't tell him that he didn't do it.
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But then trying to assume whether he thinks
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that he did those things and they shouldn't be illegal
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or they are illegal but it's cool
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because he did it for a good reason, I have no idea.
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Those sorts of things.
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It seems difficult to believe
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he didn't send those messages.
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He didn't lie to investigators.
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Of course he did.
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Right, and that's why all of the defenses
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end up being like, well, this juror lied.
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Hey, why isn't Andrew McCabe in prison?
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Yeah, no one's disputing that he did this shit.
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Roger, yeah, yeah.
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So Alex has now sent Owen out there
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to yell at these cameras.
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And in that clip you heard,
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he's throwing it to Fox News and he brings up,
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Owen was just on the Fox News feeds.
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So there is an increased traffic to Alex's website.
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And of course, just naturally, as we've seen,
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whenever these things happen that are relevant
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to Info Wars world, like Roger being sentenced to prison,
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people tune in to Info Wars.
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He sees a big spike in traffic
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and he behaves exactly like you'd expect.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have the immune gargle
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sold out at 16 ounce in the 3.4 and the one ounce.
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That is going to be selling out very, very soon.
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That is available.
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It has the nano patented silver,
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the stock's meant to take out the corona family viruses
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as well.
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Also fish oil has vitamin D3 in it.
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We have one of the highest qualities of the burpees
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but our ultimate fish oil,
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that's at info wars store.com.
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It goes on.
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He just does a really long-
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Huge, huge pill.
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Big ass horse pill.
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Big ass horse pill.
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He does just a really long plug for stuff.
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And I think it's, and it's in the middle of the hour too.
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Like it seems like very much like, okay, we've got eyes.
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We got eyes on this, get to get a long plugin.
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So he does that, goes out to break.
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And when he comes back, it's back to yelling at Owen about-
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Telling him what to do.
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Yep.
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This is a threat to America.
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Don't respond to the mental patients.
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Just put your information out.
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Russian collusion.
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Listen to the cult.
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Listen to the cult.
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Don't respond to the cult.
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Overdrive them with the truth.
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Expose the Democrats hate America.
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Don't fuck the cult.
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You're doing a bad job.
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Hey, no, this sounds so much like the next thing
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he's going to say is, all right, fine, stop it.
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I will be there in an hour.
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I'm getting in the teleporter.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Trump gave it to me.
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Shit!
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Better get rid of my med bed real quick.
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So this just goes on.
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He's just really mad that Owen won't like self-promote
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while he's out there.
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Jesus.
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Look at these pathetic Democrats that have come out here
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for their consolation prize.
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A kangaroo trial that totally exposes them.
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Owen, they're destroying themselves.
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Everyone knows they hate America.
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Talk about being his co-host.
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The cameras are on you.
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Tell him he's been gagged, but you haven't.
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Tell him that he's been gagged, but you haven't.
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They can still look at yours.
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They can still watch your show.
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He used to be your co-host.
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Absolutely.
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Get a fucking plug.
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If you want to support Roger,
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you better continue watching The War Room.
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Exactly.
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It was his show.
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That's what he would want you to do.
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Yeah, that's what he would want you to do.
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So it's just so fucking clear that Owen's job
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is to get eyes on the product.
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Promote.
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Owen's got his earpiece back in.
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Owen, we're live on here doing a great job.
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Just ignore the cult members.
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And just put out your message for all the cameras
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that are there.
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Talk about being his co-host.
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What it's like.
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Just whatever you want to say, but you're there.
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I wouldn't respond to the mental patients.
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And it looks like they escaped from a mental institution.
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They're all weird old white people
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that look like they escaped from a mental institution.
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They've all been locked in a cellar
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with methamphetamine for 40 years.
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Sounds fun.
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Yes, Alex.
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Clearly exhibiting cult behavior out here.
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I've never seen a better exhibition of cult behavior
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just chanting lies at me.
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See, that's all they can do is chant lies.
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Tell what?
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I've said nothing that's a lie.
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But they get you to respond to them.
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The cameras are all on you.
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Tell folks what happened to Roger.
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What have I said that's a lie?
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What have I said that's a lie?
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Anybody?
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He gets baited.
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And I'm not mad at Owen.
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This is real TV and radio.
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He wants to try to humanize them and talk to them.
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They don't talk to you.
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So you're in front of all the news cameras.
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Speak for Roger.
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He's been silenced.
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He's your co-host.
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Tell the people there.
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It's like I'm a ghost trying to talk to the living.
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That's what it'd be like.
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I'm like a ghost trying to influence someone.
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But your child is using fentanyl.
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I'm a ghost.
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I saw it.
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Go take it away.
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It's under their bed, and they don't hear me.
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Owen, speak to the news cameras about what happened to Roger.
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Ignore the crypt keepers.
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That's a very weird thing to warn your kid about.
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You've got fentanyl under its bed.
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Especially if it's a ghost.
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I don't know.
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I'm going to leave that aside.
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So the primary issue here is that the InfoWars
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correspondents who go out on the field have a brand.
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They have a specific thing that they're supposed to do.
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And Owen is working across purposes.
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He doesn't realize, because I think
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he thinks that he's a legitimate.
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Maybe he thinks he's good at what he does.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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For whatever reason, he sees engaging
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with people who are telling him he's lying about stuff
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is a good play.
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It's not.
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His brand is as like the guy, like when
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he went and yelled at Jerry Nadler and got taken out,
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and they got to pretend he was going to be in prison forever
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for yelling at the impeachment stuff.
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That's his brand.
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He's a strong young man.
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He is not the person who maybe looks incapable of arguing
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with a crowd of people.
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That's weakness.
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That is not good for Owen Schroyer.
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Owen Schroyer's brand is the cuck destroyer.
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They need a, they can't do that in a live feed.
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They need those videos to be produced
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where he does actually run into somebody that he destroys.
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And then you can package that and send it out.
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Great.
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Works with the brand.
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That's where Owen can talk to random strangers.
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In this case, you just need him to be defiant,
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a voice yelling truth to the cameras.
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Cameras, very important cameras.
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Your brand is the defiant guy yelling at these cameras.
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And when you try and get out of your lane a little bit,
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it doesn't work for branding.
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It doesn't work for marketing.
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Stay in your fucking lane.
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Yell at the cameras.
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Alex keeps telling that to him, and Owen
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keeps getting distracted by people who are just like,
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you suck.
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Why is he an idiot?
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He doesn't even have his hair fixed.
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So we're going to have to cut away from this.
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But it's OK.
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It's just how it always works.
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You never engage the cryptkeepers.
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So that's that.
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No more coverage from Owen Schroyer.
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Got down by the cryptkeepers.
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So they just say, say something to him.
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He's got to respond to him.
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And then that's the end of it.
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So do your own live feed, Owen.
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You're doing a great job.
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But you're out there in front of all the news cameras
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responding to cryptkeepers.
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And when you go over and try to talk to them,
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they go, F you.
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We're not talking to you.
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You know the response.
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So I don't know why we're even there.
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You're in front of all the cameras.
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Talk about Roger, your co-host.
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It's just so obvious.
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Man.
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When you have, like, that's what you're saying.
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Like, when you have both sides of the earpiece,
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it's like, it's so overt, like, what you're trying to do.
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This is a stunt.
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This is publicity.
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Stop engaging.
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Do your job.
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Yeah.
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That's very sad.
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But Owen does manage to find one Roger supporter in the crowd.
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But here, who's this fellow right here with the Roger Stone
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giant banner?
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Pardon Roger Stone.
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Let's talk to him.
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Enrique Tarrio here.
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Just brought out the sign.
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What's up?
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What's up, guys?
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What's up, Info Wars?
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We're here.
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Yes.
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So that's not a random Roger supporter
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who Owen found out there on the streets.
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That's Enrique Tarrio, who's the chairman of the Proud Boys.
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Oh, that's not good.
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No.
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So in case you're keeping score,
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Alex is accusing all the people there,
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like, who are the people who are mad at Roger.
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Yes.
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See, they're all astroturf.
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And they're there for some nefarious, unspecified purpose.
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Owen manages to find one person there who supports Roger.
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And it happens to be the leader of a street gang that's
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associated with Roger, who happens
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to own the t-shirt shop that sold the Roger Stone Did Nothing
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Wrong shirt.
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Sure.
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Seems like there's a whole lot of conflicts
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Alex should be pointing out in relation
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to interviewing this person, as opposed
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to just presenting them as a random supporter of Roger.
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Hey, he's from the heartland, Dan.
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Right.
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He's the real Americans.
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Whatever.
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Yeah.
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It's bullshit.
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Yep.
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So anyway, Alex decides, like, hey, Owen,
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you found a guy who can talk.
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Go ahead, interview that guy.
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I'm going to take a break.
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So Owen talks to Enrique for a little bit.
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The Calvary is there.
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I don't know how much the president is aware of it
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or not, but it's time for the Calvary
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to get into the battlefield.
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Yes.
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It's time for us to get off the couch.
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We need to get off the couch.
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I'm a huge advocate, and I've said it on your show before.
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I'm a huge advocate for it.
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Oh, you've been on his show before?
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If you believe you want that change, run for office.
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Just try it.
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Which you did.
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I did.
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I'm running in Florida's 27th congressional.
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All right, we're about to take a break.
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So somehow the irony of this entire interview
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is lost on Owen.
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He's talking to the leader of a street gang
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about how the Calvary is out there
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and needs to get more active.
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Cavalry.
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Hey, I'm just using the words he used.
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It's legitimately nuts how these dudes
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insist on pretending that they're in any way journalists.
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And in reality, I mean, Owen is operating as more or less
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like a PR firm for crypto monarchists.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Enrique Tarrio is running for a seat in the house,
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as he mentioned in that clip there.
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But there's literally no chance he's even
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going to make it through the primaries.
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However, he did answer survey questions
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about his candidacy for ballot pedia.
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And I found some of it pretty illuminating.
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For one, he has a list of people that he admires
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and he looks up to.
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And so you've got like Martin Luther King Jr., Winston
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Churchill, Ron Paul.
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They're all on there.
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But you know who else is on there?
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Jack Pessobic.
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Look, I get, hey, maybe you like him.
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You do not admire him.
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Zero people admire Jack.
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Martin Luther King, Winston Churchill, Jack Pessobic.
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I think we know which ones he actually cares about.
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Martin Luther King Jr., Winston Churchill,
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the guy who pretended common ping pong pizza was scary.
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Exactly.
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Great.
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So he was asked what media someone
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might take in to understand his philosophy.
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And Tarrio's answer was, quote, the death of the West
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by Pat Buchanan and Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
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Oh, so he's fun.
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Great.
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That's a guy I want to talk to at a party, Dan.
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I think I got a good sense of your philosophy.
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It's not good.
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So he was asked, quote, what do you
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perceive to be the US's greatest challenges as a nation
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over the next decade?
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His answer was, quote, partisan division
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and the introduction of socialist policies
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in our government.
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As to the partisan division, he's
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the leader of a right wing street gang.
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And he was physically present at the Unite the Right rally.
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So he can straight up fuck himself on that count.
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As for the socialist policies being a problem in the future,
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it makes me wonder if he's campaigning on getting
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rid of social security.
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I wonder if that whole socialist policies thing is just
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a talking point and a fun word for him to say,
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or if he's in favor of doing away with one
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of the most successful and popular programs
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in this country's history.
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I'm guessing it's the talking point.
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Yeah, I'm going to go with that one.
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I also have a strong suspicion that Enrique
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Tarrio is running for office as a ploy
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to get back on Twitter and PayPal,
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since if he were running for the House,
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he could make an argument that he's
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being banned from those programs and platforms.
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It's a form of election meddling.
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Tommy Robinson and Sargon of Akkad
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tried to make that argument when they ran with UKIP.
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And I believe Laura Loomers made similar attempts
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to get back on social media.
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Whatever the motivation, though, this dude has no chance,
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even in the GOP primary.
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It's all very dumb.
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What an asshole.
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So anyway, they do this interview.
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And Alex comes back.
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And he's just so pissed that he's not there.
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Oh, and just for me, tell him Alex Jones has a message to you.
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America is awake to your anti-American scum.
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Roger Stone is innocent and will be pardoned.
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You are losers.
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You have failed.
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We have a message from Alex Jones.
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You have lost.
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It's a real show of faith in your employees
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when you don't micromanage.
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A bad one.
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No, it's a lack of a show of faith when you do micromanage,
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when you have to guide all of their decisions.
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Here, say this for me.
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This means you don't trust that they're
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able to do the job.
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And not just that, but like, god,
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if you know you're going to get so many more viewers because
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of this stunt, then as important as it is to try and sell there,
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the other big, perhaps the biggest thing
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you should be doing is putting on a fucking show
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that people are going to watch tomorrow.
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You know, like put on a show and people are like, oh shit, yeah,
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I want to continue watching this.
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I think Alex kind of knows on some level
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that he's going to get whatever maintenance
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or like retain viewers he's going to get.
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It's more important to do a smash and grab robbery as
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opposed to a confident scam.
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People are going to see through it.
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It's just take the money and run.
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Yeah, he's a bad con man.
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So he's done with Owen now, and we get to actually like
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the show.
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And we get some headlines.
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Of course, we're going to end up getting into the coronavirus
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but he has some other stuff to talk about.
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Now the ADL says that Senator Ted Cruz
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is anti-Semitic for criticizing Bloomberg
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when it's the ADL constantly injecting Judaism into things
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and saying if you oppose anybody that's Jewish,
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that you're a Nazi.
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Really?
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Pretty amazing.
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That's coming up as well.
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Very, very sad to see the ADL trying to promote anti-Semitism
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because that is what they're doing,
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trying to make everything about if somebody's Jewish or not.
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I don't think we're making that an issue about Bloomberg
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that he's a globalist.
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Oh, I see.
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Good stuff there.
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I don't think you're helping yourself at the end,
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but whatever.
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Alex has taken it real hard to Bloomberg.
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And it's really interesting because on the 16th,
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the Sunday episode that I listened to,
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a lot of that was anti-Bloomberg stuff.
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And I think Alex is maybe getting into the possibility
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that Bloomberg is going to be the candidate
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and really going hard at him.
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But what I find super fascinating
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is like the critiques that I see from the left
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are more real than Alex's.
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But Alex can't make those critiques
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because he's in favor of stop and frisk.
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He's in favor of redlining.
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He loves it.
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So all he could do is be like,
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ah, he wants to run your life.
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Soda taxes.
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Oh no, not soda taxes.
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Oh no.
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Which I mean, there was a conversation to be had there
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and that's all good and well.
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But like, I think the actual harder criticisms
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are surrounding his history of racist policies,
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his personal racism, transphobia, homophobia.
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These things are far more salient points
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to make about him, but Alex can't.
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So it's interesting to see him attacking Bloomberg,
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but like being far more impotent in it
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than the people who he thinks are globalists.
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Yeah, it must be a struggle
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because when you're looking at Bloomberg next to Trump,
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you're like, his real decision is just like,
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well, Trump's a bigger asshole and he's louder.
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Right.
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So that's different.
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Right.
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That's it.
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That's the selling point.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's tough.
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That's the other thing too,
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is like you can't make too many complaints
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about Bloomberg if you're Alex
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because you support some of the stuff that is bad about him.
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Oh, he's got a history of sexual harassment.
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Well, see, that's the other thing.
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A lot of the other complaints you could rise
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bring up points about Trump that you don't want to discuss.
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So it's, Alex is in a very weird pickle there
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about attacking Bloomberg, but whatever.
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Anyway, the ADL critiqued Ted Cruz
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for tweeting out a suggestion
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that Mike Bloomberg quote, owns the media,
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which of course is a classical element of anti-Semitic
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rhetoric and conspiracy theory.
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In this case, it's kind of a tight rope act
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that needs to be walked if you don't want to fall
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into that pit because Mike Bloomberg obviously
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does own some media outlets like Bloomberg.
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In a sense, he does own a media.
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Part of a media, media specifics.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't think that anyone would get too upset
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if you want to discuss how the fact
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that he does personally own actual outlets like Bloomberg,
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how that could have an actual effect
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on the coverage coming out of them.
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It's a really hard thing for me to believe
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that people who work at Bloomberg feel completely free
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to cover Mike Bloomberg from an unbiased perspective.
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That's an acceptable thing to voice concerns about.
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But what Ted Cruz was doing was suggesting
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that Bloomberg owned the media, not specific outlets.
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This plays into the narratives
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that have deeply anti-Semitic roots
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and an organization like ADL exists in part
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to point these things out.
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Not to call Ted Cruz an anti-Semite,
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but to take advantage of a teachable moment
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where people could learn to express things better
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and not fall into these traps
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that have been used historically for nefarious purposes.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think that you just see backlash about it
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by people like Alex and wonder why.
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I mean, that is such just like,
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if Ted Cruz had said Bloomberg owns a media outlet,
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that is a damning indictment.
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Like you should not also own,
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you shouldn't own anything
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if you're going to be a president.
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That's wrong.
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And I don't know if he had more.
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Wrong.
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I don't know if he had more comments
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than just the tweet about it,
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but I think that the tweet that Ted Cruz made
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probably was closer to pointing out
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the ownership of Bloomberg
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than it was to say he owns the entire media,
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but the phrasing of it and the way it was expressed
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was not great.
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And it's the sort of thing where it's like,
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yeah, no one's saying that you hate Jews.
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It's saying that this is not the way to express that.
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Anyway, now we get to some coronavirus stuff.
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This is dumb.
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God, it's gotten to the point
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where I wish they would solve the coronavirus issue
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just for me, just so I don't have to hear Alex
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talk about it anymore.
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I'm sure you speak for our audience.
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So anyway, there's breaking news.
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There's a cruise ship where a bunch of people
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have been quarantined.
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The Princess.
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The Diamond Princess.
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And Alex has some updates.
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I'm gonna shift gears when we come back
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into the huge coronavirus developments.
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It's killing people on the cruise ships now.
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Multiple cruise ships, people are dying.
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That means it isn't hype.
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It is killing people and it's spreading very fast.
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So here's some information that Alex
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will absolutely never tell his audience
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about the two people who died
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on the Diamond Princess cruise ship
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that's quarantined off the coast of Japan.
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One was an 87-year-old man
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who had a history of bronchial asthma.
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The other was an 84-year-old woman
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who also had an unspecified preexisting condition.
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These deaths are very sad and I don't mean to minimize them,
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but demographically, they are the sort of people
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you would expect to see dying from a virus like this.
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People in this cohort are the sort of people
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you expect to see dying of normal flus every year.
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There's just no way around it.
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People over the age of 80
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with underlying medical conditions
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are at a much greater risk from things like this
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than a healthy 30 or 40-year-old person is.
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Unfortunately, the cruise ship evokes
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all sorts of mental images that Alex can use
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to sell more fear about the virus.
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People are trapped on that boat.
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They're running out of food.
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No one's getting let off.
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In reality, there are about 620 people
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who have tested positive on that boat who are quarantined.
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Out of the original 3,700 who were on the cruise,
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the rest of those people, they were quarantined
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for the 14 days that they needed to be for examination,
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and then they were released and sent on their way.
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It's not an ideal situation,
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and it probably sucks to be quarantined anywhere,
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but honestly, I would assume a luxury cruise boat
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is not the worst place ever to be stuck.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a lot better than the plague ships.
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Do you think they get to use the pool?
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Well, I mean, if it's just them left on the ship,
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why not? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I wondered about that, and then I wondered
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if it's bad taste for me to wonder about it.
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I'd be swimming.
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I definitely wouldn't be eating the shrimp anymore.
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That's just a rule that I have.
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Probably, yeah, yeah.
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So we got a situation now where,
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Alex rambles about that a bit, and who cares?
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He's just full of shit, but he comes back from break
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to the song, breaking the law, breaking the law,
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breaking the law. Oh, no.
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I don't know what he's talking about in this clip.
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It's a little bit longer, but it's one of his,
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where he turns the song into part of his rant.
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Like pieces of this, he tries to time it
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for the choruses and stuff. Sure.
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Like his professional rambling skills are on.
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This is convoluted.
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If you can make sense of this, I would appreciate it.
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All right.
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Because I fucking can't.
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I'll do my best.
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The answer to 1984 is 1776.
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You're listening to the Alex Jones Show.
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There I was completely wasting, out of work and down.
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So I might as well put some action in my life.
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That's how the veneer civilization burns away
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is when tyrants get rid of chivalry,
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believing people that came before them were wimps.
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They had all these checks and balances in place.
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They didn't do all these hard, mean things.
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They didn't lie.
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They didn't cheat.
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They didn't steal.
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They didn't persecute people.
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They didn't intimidate.
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They must've been idiots.
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No, they always came out of long, bloody decades,
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sometimes centuries of millions dead in hell on earth.
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And they promise never to do it again by breaking the law,
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breaking the law of god, breaking the law of common sense.
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It isn't weaklings that follow chivalry.
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It's those that know the dark side
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and seek to bound it in chains,
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show that we might live as free men and women
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and not live under conquest and tyranny.
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Not to see the burned cities and destroyed fields
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and farms laid to waste and the rape and the repine
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and evil turned loose,
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but to empower the great spirit of human ingenuity
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and freedom by passing limited laws to tie down the tyrant
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and empower the family and the individual
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and those that love God.
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But the tyrants and the control freaks
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and the Satanists continue to break the law,
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God's law, common sense, natural law.
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Everything they do is about saying men are women
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and women are men and God doesn't exist
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and there is no right or wrong.
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Listen to their song.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Now we're getting into it.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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Breaking the law.
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teller Nixon,
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and a fellow journalist, army, officer, veteran, and lawyer.
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You can't talk about. OK, that's quite an intro. That is all the interview with
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Tyler Nixon's like lead up. That's the ramp into the interview. You got to be
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like, oh, yeah, I'm coming in. I'm coming in hot.
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I will. I don't really know exactly what he was getting at, but I think he felt
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it. Yeah, no, no. He got the spirit. I guess it's not chivalry like holding
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doors for ladies. You talk about it like in the nights. Yeah, I like nights.
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Right. But I think we're I think we're jumping on who which side is breaking
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the law very, very liberally. Like at some point he's the tyrants are defeated
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by people who break the law because the tyrants instituted a law that sometimes
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you have to. Right. Exactly. Break of the law. But then we have to make limited
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laws. Right. To rein in the tyrants. Right. Which those laws are not
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weakness or strength. But the tyrant thinks the laws are weakness. Therefore,
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a tyrant breaks laws. Therefore, I must break laws. Wait, but who's the one
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who's good at breaking the laws in this circumstance? I really don't know. I
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think he lost the thread maybe at the beginning. I would say at the beginning,
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I would say the moment he started screaming, breaking the law, he was like,
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I am loving this chorus. Love it. I got to try and work it in there. And then
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he's like, wait, no, I'm like, my guy is now the one making the laws. I'm not
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positive. I don't want to break the laws. I'm not positive that this requires a
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ton of analysis outside of just like, I think like this is something I like to
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bring to the people because, you know, lately there have been more of these
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like full songs. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. These sort of lectures over. It's the
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only time that you really feel passion from him. And it's kind of nice to see
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him alive a little bit, even if it's incoherent. It makes no sense. Anyway,
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he talks to Tyler Nixon and like I said, I don't really care. It's not in my
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interest at all to listen to Roger's friend to be like, Roger got screwed. I
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do like that immediately after playing breaking the law, you're like, now we're
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going to talk to a lawyer who's here to talk about Roger breaking the law. Okay.
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Okay. So he gets done with talking to Tyler Nixon. It's not a very long
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interview and Alex finds himself in a pickle. That is that there's news about
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the coronavirus that
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he's got to cover. It's so big cheese. It's such big news. I'm tired of this,
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but he can't, he can't do it. Why not? Well, he'll tell you covering something
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this horrible,
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covering something this crazy, covering something this serious, just mixed in
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with everything else we're covering doesn't feel right. I mean, I look at
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the numbers, I look at the viruses, I look at the scientific papers, I look
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at the reports and, and I just pull back and go,
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I got up at five 30 in the morning this morning and I did about an hour of
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research for my children, woke up for, I made them breakfast. Are you dead? On
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the one, I was sitting there reading these scientific reports. I'm going to
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show you prestigious groups and double checking it all before I came on air,
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double checking
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and there's just some type of compulsion
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because I'm not somebody that wants to cover stuff up, but it's kind of like
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the military when it's got to go to your door and tell you your son just got
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killed.
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This is not an enjoyable job.
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And I'm very honored to be here, but
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I'm ashamed
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and I don't blame Trump. He doesn't know who he's hiring or what he's doing. I
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would at his level.
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But then when I discover all this, then I want to research every point of it so
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I can get it exactly right because I don't want to make a mistake.
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The level is just lie all they want. That must be so easy. You just do
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whatever you want. I'm like studying hours, just getting headaches, trying to
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like, calling up virologists and experts and confirming that I'm correct.
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Calling a virologist, Alex. So this is not some dramatic flourish here. It is.
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It is absolutely that. Actually,
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it's above my pay grade.
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That's true. I think I've just said it. I, and I'm not copping out. It's not
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that I can't cover it. You're sold out. I mean, I spent an hour this morning
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looking at this again and all the countless shows you've seen with experts
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and then I spent more time before the show and I just,
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I just don't feel confident talking about this because I might make a
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mistake. This is weird and it goes on forever. And you know, there is a story
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that he's trying to get to and he does blurt it out, but it's, I mean, it's all
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in service of what the end goal is and we all know what that end goal is and
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you'll hear just a moment. Under Obama, Homeland Security sold the Chinese this
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virus and I even found mainstream news five years ago saying it, worried about
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it, The Scientist. That's one of the biggest scientific publications out there.
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And then I read that and then I found all the papers and I'm just like, I'm
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not a violent person. But coming on air and just talking about this is not a
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normal response and I'm not calling for violence. I'm just saying as a father
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and as a human being at a certain point, things are so horrible that you just
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can't make it one more footnote. It's like so bad that I need to really muster
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my full will and really do some planning on how I talk about this. There, I've
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said it. I just, shouldn't you always? I just can't cover this. Isn't that what
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doing all that research? You heard Boyle on yesterday and I went and did a bunch
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of research. He's dead on. Really? And then I'm like, why the hell is our
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government doing this? I know Trump didn't do this then, but the guy he's got
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running NIH was involved in it at the time. Is that your boy, Fauci? And they're
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all little. And I'm just like, they're crazy people. And they're violent by
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producing this. They are attacking us. And so as a man, I become a sellout and
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a wimp if I don't tell people that folks doing this are violent towards everybody
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and are the same as terrorists or worse, running around with suicide vest or
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flying airplanes into buildings. Which was a false flag. Yeah. I mean, it's
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was a false flag according to you. Yeah. They didn't fly planes. Something just a
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bitch about on air. This becomes something of ultimatums to the president.
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I mean, I don't know. Really? But obviously someone knew the US government
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did this and the Chai Council took to embarrass Trump now that they know they
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had this and that there's some big stuff going on here. And so that's why I'm. I
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don't want to say I'm shaken. I just it's so big. I don't want to go off
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half cocked because I'm a decisive person. I'll take action all day long. I
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just I'm still got the wheels turning and I'm trying to figure out exactly
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what I should do. I just want to beg. Let's there's a viewers. Please keep us
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on air. They're trying to shut us down so that nobody can challenge what
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they're doing. God damn you. Nobody can bring up what's happening. I ask you,
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Jordan, who, if not everyone, could have seen it coming. That Alex is very
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sincere, flustered tone about the coronavirus news was all just a lead
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into a plea for money. If I'm being honest, I think that Alex knows that the
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products he has to sell the relate to the outbreak are kind of sold out and
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he's made a bunch of money off this. There's no real financial bottom line
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in it for him to cover the virus news from a healthier standpoint. So it's
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coverage in the future is probably going to lean more towards the political
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intrigue as we see kind of happening here. Yeah, this article that he's
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talking about in The Scientist that Alex referenced in that clip has nothing to
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do with Obama selling a virus to the Chinese government. It's about a guy
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named Ralph Baric, who's an infectious disease researcher at UNC Chapel Hill,
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creating a chimeric coronavirus for research purposes, which it kicked off a
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debate about how that probably wasn't worth the risk involved. Yeah, it's a
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debate that goes on within the scientific community. Right, right, right,
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right, right. This very article says that the US government halted all
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financial funding from the federal level for research like this, what's
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known as, quote, gain of function studies as it relates to influenza,
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SARS, and MERS. Put simply, that refers to adding the function of a
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pathogen, you know, like giving it an added function in order to better
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understand its interaction with the world and its hosts. It's long been a
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hotly debated question if these sorts of studies are ethical, given the
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potential downsides that they have are practically incalculable. What I want
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to do, guys, and hear me out, give me some money for this, I want to make
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sure that smallpox is 100% fatal in order to study how fatal it would be if
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we released it into the greater population. I don't think this is a bad
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idea. Give me one bad reason. You have a, that's a farcical take on what these
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studies are, but I mean, yeah, I mean, it's add, add something to this on a
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genetic level in order to test it. So in 2015, the scientists published an
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article about this guy at UNC Chapel Hill who did a gain of function study
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on a coronavirus, but it's definitely not the same virus that's currently
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breaking out from China. This article is not a study, though it doesn't
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follow the study conducted by Ralph Baric, and there's no chance that Alex
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read that study, and even if he did, it has nothing to do with the current
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situation. That legitimately seems like it's Alex's only primary source on
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this, and nothing in there says or even implies that Obama or Homeland
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Security sold a virus to China. In fact, it explicitly says that no federal
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funding went to that study, nor any like it for at least the two years
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prior, so Obama had even less to do with this. Alex has had his fun with
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the public health panic sales drive, but his heart isn't in it anymore, so
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he doesn't quite know where to go with things. The natural choice is to
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make it a political thriller, but I think he also realizes that he can't
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pull that off without totally saying that Trump is complicit with releasing
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a bioweapon on innocent civilians, so he's kind of in a tough spot.
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Yeah, he's in a bit of a bind here. Yeah, and that leads him to just like
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cover this on a very surface level, but with his like, ah, I can't tell
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this, I can't cover this. I'm gonna go off half cocked. Oh, man. It was
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cooked up by Homeland Security under Obama, according to the scientist lab
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made coronavirus triggers debate. The creation of Kamira SARS-like virus has
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scientists discussing the risk of gain of function, and you read the article,
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it's the exact weird virus popped up that Bill and Melinda Gates have now
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patented. Oh, really? It's all hidden in plain view.
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And I've got all the papers. This clip came at the end of like 10 additional
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minutes of Alex being real insecure about how he can't cover the virus
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news in the approximately half an hour of his show. He dedicated to talking
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about how he can't talk about the virus news for fear of making a mistake. He
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could have easily covered whatever story he thinks is the big scoop. This
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is performance, and Alex is playing the role of the student who forgot to do
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their fucking homework. And it really shows in that clip we just heard.
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There's absolutely no depth there at all. You just hear Alex grasping at
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straws to try and make this somehow sound researched. The headline about the
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lab made virus causing debate is not about Obama or the Department of
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Homeland Security making a virus. It was that researcher at UNC Chapel Hill,
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and the debate was in the scientific community. He's completely
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misrepresenting that source. Instance of Alex not knowing what he's talking
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about, number one. Alex says that if you read the article, it's just the
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same exact coronavirus that popped up in December in China. This is not
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true. He's making that up. Instance of Alex not knowing what he's talking
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about, number two. Then Alex tries to say that this virus from the 2015
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article is the same one that the Gates Foundation has a patent for. It
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wasn't the Gates Foundation. It was the Peerbright Institute, and it wasn't
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a patent on a coronavirus. It was a vaccine for chickens. And it wasn't
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identical to the virus mentioned in the article in The Scientist. Instances
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of Alex not knowing what he's talking about, numbers three, four, and five.
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Yep. That clip is less than 30 seconds long, and Alex reveals clearly that
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he has no idea what he's talking about five times. This is why he does
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30 minutes on his show about how he can't cover the news, because he
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knows his shit's weak. There's a whole lot of nothing here. But you can
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make nothing look like something with theatrics like this. The article in
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The Scientist is a complete zero in terms of Alex's narratives, but if he
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can completely act fucked up about it on air, like he can't do his job
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because the news is so big, that passion will sell the weak shit to his
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audience without him even trying to engage with what's in the article or
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the study. I'm not trying to sit here and pretend that Alex is some kind of,
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like, he's a conniving genius, but he does things for a reason. He
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absolutely wouldn't have a job if his audience stopped for a second to ask
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themselves why he's doing the things he's doing every now and again. Like,
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oh, that's weird. Why are you behaving like that? Oh, that's why. You're just
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trying to, trying to gild the lily. I hate being gaslit so much, especially
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when it comes to this, because it's like, I, we do this show, I see you do
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hours upon hours upon hours of research and it sounds like the way you talk. I
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don't do any research. And that sounds far more similar to the way Alex
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talks. Right now. Doesn't that make sense there? And you're sometimes
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wrong. And I can point out generally, like you did all the research and even
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the stuff that I can do is imperfect. Like, yeah, I'm, I'm wrong every now and
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again. And, you know, we, we certainly try our best to cop to that. And, and,
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and in situations, particularly surrounding like the fine points of the
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law and science, two areas where, you know, I have to wear my, uh, inability
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on my sleeve. Like those are not subjects that I'm well equipped in.
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Sometimes I can read stuff over and get a good sense of it. Sometimes like
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today, I can't, I actually consulted a specialist to get to the bottom of some
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of the stuff that we're going to end up, uh, discussing. Um, but it's, it's
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important to like, to recognize that like, yes, the way Alex speaks about
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these things is indicative of someone who doesn't know what he's talking
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about. And all you need to do is listen to someone who knows what they're
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talking about. Exactly. And that's not necessarily me all the time, but the
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difference between, let's say an expert and an info Wars expert, it's a wide
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cast. There's a big, big gap there. Yes. It reminds me the way that he's doing
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this, the way that he's selling this stuff reminds me so much of like, I was,
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uh, I remember working with, uh, one of the, one of those road hack headliners
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at, uh, at, uh, the, the club in Aurora. And I could not understand why this guy
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was fucking killing because he was garbage. And then after one of the
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shows, he's just, he came up to me and he was like, you know what your problem
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is? You're not selling your jokes, man. You got to really sell them. Even if
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they're weak, if you sell the jokes, right, you can get a lot out of it. I
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was like, Oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. It's 90% facade, 10% substance,
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maybe. And sometimes not even that. What are you doing trying to write jokes?
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Stop it. Yeah. Fool's game. Yeah. Do you want a life being a shitty headliner?
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Yeah, exactly. Glamorous life. Yeah. So Alex has decided that the U S sold the
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virus to China and he has an agenda. He thinks he's figured out why, but he's,
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oh, he doesn't know. And that's why you need to fund info wars. So they can stay
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on air long enough to figure this out. I guess this is so stupid. This is
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offensively stupid. Why would the U S sell this to the chai comms? And then
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five years later it's released close to the chai comms and crack down and take
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over Taiwan.
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This is big is what I'm saying. It's big. And, and I don't know exactly what's
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going on, but man, this is the big enchilada. That's all I'm saying. And so
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my brain is like a computer, like thinking that hasn't popped out the
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answers yet. And my, my, my gut, my spirit, my brain's never wrong. Yours
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have always wait till it's, it's, it's, it's, it's there, but this is bad. This
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is bad. This is bad. This is bad. Is it bad? This is bad. How is it? Okay. Um,
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yeah. So his working theory is that, uh, the lockdown of Wuhan, um, is just, uh,
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to set the stage for taking over Taiwan. I don't know. Anyway, what your hand is
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up. It's to set the stage for taking for China, taking Taiwan or the United
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States, taking Taiwan, China taking to look dude. I'm not, I'm sorry. I'm
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sorry. I'm getting bogged down in the wrong detail. Everything's very
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convoluted. Apologies. Some of it might become a little clearer as we go along,
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but some of it absolutely won't. Some of it is just nonsensical breaking the law.
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So, um, we, we learned something here, uh, for a while, Alex has been pushing
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this narrative that the Canadian lab, the one in Winnipeg is the source of, uh,
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the stuff. Cause there was a, those two Chinese folks who were expelled from the
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lab. Uh, turns out that might not be true. They're just introducing us to
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the new AIDS of the new millennium. And this isn't just going to be old people
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that have anal sex or whatever, or use needles. This is something that's going
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to kill you and your family and make you have a heart attack and make your lungs
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bleed out. And it totally sucks. And so that's why metaphysically we all are
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concerned because we know, Oh, this, this is big. It is big. And it was produced
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in the United States, not Canada. That was all put out as disinformation. Sure. And
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they even hid the damn thing in plain sight. Oh shit. It turns out the Canada
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stuff was misinformation. That's wild because I heard a ton of coverage about
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how the virus was stolen from that lab in Winnipeg on Alex's show from Alex and
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his trusted experts like the health ranger, Mike Adams. But I can't possibly
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be the case because Alex's gut is never wrong. He's right. 99% of the time. So
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there's no way you would have spent a ridiculous amount of time on his show
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trying to spread conspiracy theories about that lab in the past. Oh no, it's
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misinformation. No, he said disinformation, Dan. That means that it
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was targeted and it was on purpose. So it's not his fault that he got it wrong.
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They tricked him. It is okay. Well, he has got his wrong. Now you may say that,
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right? But his gut was telling him not to go with it, but he went ahead with it
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anyways because the health ranger, here's the thing. He was in the long
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distant past though. Like he got tricked by that, but he's, you know, that's true.
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Yeah, but like contrite. Yeah. I mean, like, it's not like you saying that shit
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in February 16th, which was last Sunday. I don't know. Let's listen to a little
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bit of that. I mean, I got to go to Mike Adams and stop just reading all these
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headlines. Everything Mike said two, three weeks ago has now come true. Like
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what? It's over for humanity. It will only be lone survivors. All right, fine.
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That one you served up on the planet. I might've played that first clip only as
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an excuse to keep the streak alive of Mike's apocalypse prediction. So here we
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have on Thursday, we have Alex saying that the Canada stuff is just
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misinformation, but on Sunday here is what he was saying. I agree with you now.
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My assessment has changed in the last week. I believe this was also a
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deliberate release. So that's interesting. Just said that it's under
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for humanity. It was introduced possibly by an agent working in that virology lab
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in Wuhan, but it was now, now the scientists reportedly stole it from
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Canada is dead. Yeah. And a bunch of other people are getting killed. I'm
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sorry. There's just so many angles here. So, Oh, so many. So on Sunday, we've got
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Alex talking about the guy who ran that Canada lab being killed. He was killed.
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He's dead. So this is a conspiracy theory about that Canadian lab where the
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two Chinese people were taken out of the lab back in July. That was Dr.
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Kiel and her husband, kidding Chang. Now, if you come to the present day,
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CTV news reported back on February 4th that a man named Frank Plummer, the
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former head of the national microbiology lab, which is the lab in
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Winnipeg had passed away at the age of 67. This is a very sad story, but if
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you actually read articles about his passing, it doesn't look like this was a
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murder or even suspicious, which Alex is definitely trying to imply from that CTV
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news article quote in December and December Plummer shared details of his
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personal battle with alcohol use disorder after undergoing experimental
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brain treatment to treat it. He told CTV news how using alcohol to relax after
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work progressed to a habit that saw him drinking up to 20 ounces of whiskey a
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night, leading to cirrhosis and end stage liver disease diagnosis in 2012.
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Citing the stress of responding to pandemics, he said that he was unable to
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stop himself from returning to alcohol after a 2014 liver transplant. He ended
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up getting that experimental procedure done. What it did is it implanted
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electrodes in his brain, and it turns out that that did have some positive effect
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on his desire to drink. That said, he clearly was the kind of drinker who
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would have done serious damage to his body by that point. So it's good that you
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can stop drinking, but you'd already had cirrhosis and a liver transplant and
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kept drinking. It's very, very sad. It's true that Plummer was the head of the
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same lab that these two Chinese scientists were removed from, but Plummer
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couldn't have had anything to do with that situation since he left his
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position in 2014, citing personal reasons, most likely the severe
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alcoholism. This is sloppy shit on Alex's part, and a deep disrespect to
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Dr. Plummer's passing. From everything I can tell you is a fantastic researcher
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who struggled with some heavy demons, only to get his life back on track, which
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is inspirational and also tragic. Conspiracies don't care about people.
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People are things. Mere props to be used to make narratives sound more convincing
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to the audience, who are also people who don't matter to the conspiracy. The
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people listening, they too are just props to spread the narratives. This is all
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very disgusting, and it's, for all Alex's talk about, like all these dehumanizing
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aspects of the globalists, it would take a second to think about him treating
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this doctor's death as a mere prop to be thrown out to support the narrative that
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the virus was stolen from this lab in in Winnipeg, which he's now saying is
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misinformation a mere couple days later. This is what it takes to be an Infowars
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believer. To take this show seriously, you have to believe that a guy who tries
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to use a doctor's death to prop up a conspiracy on Sunday, then, you know, he
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says that all that Canadian lab stuff was misinformation on Thursday, you have
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to believe that that guy is a good source of information and someone you
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should trust. Yep. So, yeah, it reminds me when Shroyer's like,
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look at all this cult behavior! All I'm doing is taking direct orders from a guy
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who says he's right 100% of the time and is the only one who can save us from the
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tyranny! They're the cult members! Right. Yeah. So we get back to, I just want to
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take a little diversion there to hear a little bit of that from Sunday, to be
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like, you were just talking about the Canadian lab stuff. Go fuck yourself with
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this. Oh, it was all misinformation. 100%. But I was wondering, like, why, and
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actually the, or what changed, what ended up changing, and it relates a little bit
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to that article in The Scientist, and also I got a way in by way of the
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headline that Alex reads here on, back on the February 20th. Smoking gun, China
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bought weaponized Wuhan virus from US. So that's just a headline that Alex is
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reading, but he never gets to the contents of that article. That's probably
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because the article doesn't have anything in it for him to read. It's just
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an InfoWars article with an embedded video of yet another stupid interview he
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did with Francis Boyle. That's... hmm. He's just reporting on his own interview,
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just reading the headline. I really don't think that's okay. It's dumb, and I'll
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explain the main argument of it here in a second, but first I wanted to play you
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this intro for that video that's in that article that I find very hilarious. They
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admit they did this, you've reverse engineered it, an incredible job. Do you
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think it was done on purpose then? Who stands to gain? Kibono, as a law professor,
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who would do this? Who stands to gain? The clip of Alex talking is the cold open
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of the clip, but hilariously, the way the video is edited, it kind of sounds like
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he's asking who gains from all this coronavirus business, and then if that's
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some editor fucking around and trying to make fun of Alex's completely disgraceful
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behavior over the last month or so, it's one of the best jokes I've seen on this
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show in a while. And if it's not, and it's just someone doing a straight editing
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job, their subconscious might be trying to tell them something. As for the
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smoking gun, that's just Francis Boyle pretending to be a science expert. Here
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he is laying it out in this next clip. The smoking gun here is on page 11 near
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the bottom, the last full paragraph from the bottom where it says, may provide a
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gain of function to the coronavirus for efficient spreading in the human
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population. So explain what that gain of function means, because not all of us are
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experts on this like you, Doctor. So let me repeat, Alex, as I've told you
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before, gain of function technology is DNA genetic engineering of dangerous
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biological warfare substances to begin with. It's the souping up of already bad
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pathogens. Right, it's a turbo charging, and gain of function work can only be
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done safely in a BSL-4 or a BSL-3 facility. So I think clearly this is the
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smoking gun that the Wuhan coronavirus came out of that BSL-4 facility. So
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Francis Boyle has found the words gain of function in a study posted on Science
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Direct about the 2019 coronavirus, which is ultimately going to be connected to
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that 2015 article from The Scientist about a gain of function study on the
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coronavirus, on a coronavirus, excuse me. Thus, these two must be the same thing,
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and that study in 2015 was clearly the cover for the creation of the virus that
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is now in outbreak. I can see how this game is probably super fun to play, you
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just find words and then yell about them, but this is really stupid.
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Francis Boyle is a lawyer. He has absolutely no background in science, and
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he really should not be offering opinions about this, because when he
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suggests that there being a gain of function in the 2019 coronavirus, that's
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a smoking gun proof that it was engineered as a bioweapon? Sounds like a
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fucking dumb-dumb. Gain of function studies are studies where pathogens are
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given other properties to test their responses, but that's not the only use of
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the word. This is really indicative of Boyle not even doing basic research on
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the topic, because if he had, he could have learned very quickly that gain of
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function is a category of mutation that happens naturally, as is loss of function.
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When that Science Direct article is talking about there being a possible
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gain of function in the 2019 coronavirus that, you know, that makes it more
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spreadable, it's talking about natural mutation that could set it apart
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from other viruses in its clade. This is a little bit outside my pay grade from a
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science perspective, so I consulted with an expert on these matters who made me
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insist that I not call him our health ranger. As it was explained to me, this
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2015 study was looking at SARS, and was based on a prediction that in the future
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viruses like it would become less picky about ACE2 cleavage. And to study that,
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they augmented an existing SARS-like virus in a way that would
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make it more readily cleaved by an ACE2 receptor. The goal was to evaluate the
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risks of other coronaviruses that were circulating in bat populations, and what
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we needed to prepare for if this mutation to ACE2 receptivity did happen,
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if we saw that. Gotcha, gotcha. Conversely, the 2019 paper is an
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analysis of the current coronavirus, which found that there is a mutation
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that has occurred that allows the virus to cleave with furin sites, which is
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intrinsically different than the work that they were doing in that 2015 study.
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In effect, the finding of the 2019 paper invalidates the hypothesis of the 2015
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study, which is to say that the prior study predicted that future SARS-like
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viruses would affect humans due to changes in ACE2 receptor cleavage,
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whereas this paper is asserting that that was incorrect, and that the actually
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actually the current coronavirus is possibly as widespread as it is because
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it bypasses the difficulty of ACE2 cleavage altogether going the furin
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route instead. While this has some scary implications, in as much as furin
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cleavage is a simpler process and could make this virus much easier for people
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to get, it's not all bad news. If this is in case, if this is the fact how the 2019
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coronavirus is taken in by the body, there are already a ton of treatments
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and preventative drugs that could be effective against furin cleavage. This
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essentially opens up a ton of options for medical treatment if this paper is
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shown to be perfectly correct. I have no business discussing the
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nitty-gritty of this hardcore science stuff, so to put it simply, these two
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papers are nowhere near about the same thing. Even if the 2015 study were proof
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of the creation of a deadly bioweapon, it still could not possibly be the same
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virus as the 2019 coronavirus, since the changes to ACE2 cleavage in that
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study have literally nothing to do with the furin cleavage, which is the
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discussion about the current virus. They're two completely different things.
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Whatever gain of function was being discussed in that UNC Chapel Hill thing
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is fundamentally, intrinsically different than whatever mutation is being
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discussed. Just because those same words are there, that's the connection
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that's being made. That's why you don't listen to Francis Boyle about
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science-related issues. All right, so if I understand this correctly, based on what
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you've just described to me, the 2015 paper is talking about ACE2 cleavage,
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which is something that is less common and something that we're not as prepared
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for. So the study there was trying to figure out, if this is the way
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that it mutates, then we need to be able to prepare for ACE2 cleavage. And then the 2019...
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The ACE2 cleaving in the sites is, the way it was described to me, it's very
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finicky between populations. So like something that would bind to, or not,
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the binding is simple, but the cleaving is not. So it would, something that
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would be taken in by ACE2 receptors in a bat, let's say, is not the same as would
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be taken in by humans through the ACE2 receptors. So there is differences
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there that cause an inability for one thing to affect different animal
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populations. So the study that they were doing is testing if it was
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easier, could humans be susceptible to other coronaviruses that were traveling
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in bat communities? Now, all of that is irrelevant to the mutation that's
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being discussed in this 2019 paper. Or I guess it was just recent, so it's 2020.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure. I got it. And a real scientist would know the difference, and
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they would never behave like this. They wouldn't go on Alex's show and help him
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misinform people about an active public health crisis. This is just
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depressingly bad. Or maybe, maybe, Jordan, I'm being a real prick,
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and there's something more to this theory. Maybe Boyle clicked on all the
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authors in the 2015 paper, all their names. Maybe he found something
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suspicious. And it has all these people there from the University of North
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Carolina at Chapel Hill. It has someone from the Food and Drug Administration, so
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you can trust the Food and Drug Administration. And then at the very bottom of the list, who
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is involved? Obama. Zhengli Lishi, key laboratory of special pathogens and
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biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China.
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So it's very clear to me that this scientist from the Wuhan Institute of
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Virology got this gain-of-function technology for SARS from this University
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of North Carolina lab. No. This is very interesting, though I'm not sure it proves
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that this scientist from the Wuhan Institute of Virology got some
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super virus from this study, which is ridiculous bullshit. It's like a movie.
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You know, if you actually read a study, you can learn what individual
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contributors did for the study. It's in the contribution section. No you can't, no
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you can't. They just list the authors and then you move on. Zhengli Lishi provided some
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materials that were needed, namely the sequences of the coronavirus that they
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were studying. So it's less a matter of the Wuhan lab getting something from
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this experiment as much as it was providing it. That's why they got a credit on the final
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study. Not only are they wrong, they're wrong in a hundred and eighty degrees? Seems like it.
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God damn it, I hate them. And guess what? Francis Boyle did such a lazy job of
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reading the study that he completely missed that there was a second person on
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it from Wuhan involved. Jingyi Zhi was also an author on the study, and Boyle
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doesn't seem to realize that. Also, if he's gonna say that anyone on this study
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is automatically somehow suspicious, why is he leaving off with another author
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that was named was Antonio Lanzavigia, who's from the Institute of Research and
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Biomedicine in Zurich, Switzerland. Shouldn't that be sounding off an alarm?
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Absolutely, he's from Zurich! The Swiss! The Swiss are coming. It's not, because I'm
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certain that Francis Boyle didn't uncover this study, he just found it on
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a dumb conspiracy website, and he's regurgitating it for Alex's audience,
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lending it credibility by virtue of his position as this guy who wrote a law.
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Great. This has all the fingerprints of some lazy conspiracy site, because they
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missed the second researcher from Wuhan. This is what happens when someone
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scanning names sees one that points towards their predetermined conclusion
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and says, good enough, the dumb dumbs will buy this, put it a print. Yep. There's
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nothing fundamentally suspicious about a couple of Chinese researchers having
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co-author credits on a paper that has to do with the SARS-like coronavirus. If you
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don't recall, their country has a bit of a history on the subject. It makes sense
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that there would be a possibility of collaboration there. No, no, no, they had a
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history, and so they just decided never to worry about coronavirus-like
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behavior ever again. There's nothing fundamentally suspicious about this. So
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far, I see no smoking gun, and quite frankly, I don't even know if I see a gun
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without smoke. I don't see anything. No. I see an emperor without clothes, does that
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make sense? So Alex asks Boyle, how'd you find this, man? This is dead to
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right stuff. Google it. By the way, Dr. Boyle, stay right there. Sure. I'm reading the
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paper. I know you have big news, you sent us links, but I'm just now reading it.
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What? And you talk about smoking gun, this is the Chinese government paying for the
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exact same thing with a US lab. No. How did you discover this? This is smoking
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gun. How the hell did you find this? Google it. Well, Alex, I told you that it's
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part of my professional responsibilities to stay on top of biological warfare, so
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I came across it, and in my research, that's just part of the job I do. You're
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explaining it very well, sir. So there's so much wrong with this clip. Like, for one,
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Alex says that he's, you know, just getting to reading the study, which
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literally means he's reading it while Boyle is talking, which is simultaneously
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a bad way to interview and a bad way to read. You're just gonna do a bad job of
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both. Second, Boyle is giving up the game. If you watch the video when he's
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describing how he found this information, he has a little smile on his face, and he
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just says that's part of the job. That, you know, all in a day's work, aw shucks,
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it's just what heroes do, stuff is horseshit. This is a man who knows he
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can't tell Alex where he got the information from, because if he did, he
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would instantly reveal that he didn't do any research, he just found it on a
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conspiracy blog. Weirdly, an article covering very similar territory was
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published on February 15th, a couple days before this interview took place on
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Zero Hedge. This was about a Chinese researcher who theorized that the virus
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could have escaped from the lab at Wuhan, who points out that Zhengli Lishi
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works at the Wuhan lab and was involved in that North Carolina study in 2015,
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which would explain why Boyle seems unaware of the other people on that
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study. Boyle is not a scientist, he does not keep up with scientific journals,
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he's just a conspiracy theorist who happens to teach law, and he read some
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dumb shit, probably on Zero Hedge, now he's playing the role of a genius
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researcher who cracked the case with Alex. Also, that part about China paying
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for the study is because Boyle is cherry-picking stuff out of the
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acknowledgments. The study was partially funded by an award from the National
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Natural Science Foundation of China, but, you know, it kind of leaves off that
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there were also grants from the National Institutes of Aging. That might sound
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weird, but, you know, why aging people? Why is that in there? Well, probably because
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things like coronaviruses mostly kill the elderly, so finding treatments and
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prevention for it would really have the effect of drastically improving the
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lives of the older set. Ah, that's where you're mistaking it.
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See, it's from the Institute of De-Aging, right? They're trying to get rid of old
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people, that's why they created this virus. Go tell it to Alex. Okay. This is all
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weak shit, and I demand a real answer from Francis Boyle. Where did you find
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this stuff? No, hey. I want a strict accounting of this that he does not give out. It's my
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job to stay on top of things. I just came across it in my normal research. Your answer sucks.
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I'm not gonna give you a source. So we don't need to listen to any more of
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Boyle's shit, but I do want to say that there's something particularly hilarious
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about this interview. Alex is going on and on about how there's a smoking gun
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stuff, and they've got the globalists dead to write, and they've proved that the
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virus is a bioweapon, and instead of getting into the specifics of the
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research and demonstrating their argument past surface-level things, like
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I found two articles that have the word gain-of-function in them, or like I saw a
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Chinese person involved in this study, instead of doing any of that, Alex does a
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long plug for his products. It's really easy to use this kind of conversation to
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drive sales when you know everything that's happening on your show isn't real,
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and that's what's going on. Because if not, Alex would be like, holy shit, holy
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shit, call everybody. Yeah, seriously. He'll be freaking out. If that's real,
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then yeah. He gives up that he doesn't believe the stories he's telling by his
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like lackadaisical sales pitch for five minutes in the middle of this video.
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There's another reality that we need to discuss, and I think it might help in
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explaining Alex's unwillingness to get into the virus news on this February
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20th show. I was speculating that it's because, you know, hey, everything's sold
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out, no real financial motive to do this, but I actually, now that I, you know, I've
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watched this Boyle interview and see that he's saying that there's a smoking
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gun that the U.S. sold this bioweapon to try all this stuff, I think he realizes
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he's gone too far. Oh yeah. I think so. The narrative has come to completion
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already. That's a huge problem. That is true. Yeah, this mystery is solved. Yeah, yeah, it was
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the government who sold it. Yeah, this is an episode of This Is Clue. So he already
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has the world's number one fake authority on the science of bioweapons,
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Francis Boyle, coming on his show and giving him absolute definitive smoking
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gun proof that not only is the coronavirus lab made, but that Alex is now
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in possession of the documents that prove that this lab in North Carolina
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created it in 2015 at the behest of the Chinese government who paid for its
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creation. There is no mystery. It is a solved case. Unfurl the sign. Mission
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accomplished. According to the reality of his show, Boyle is a credible source and
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it's been proven that the researchers at UNC Chapel Hill made China a
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bioweapon because they wanted money. The problem with this is, from a narrative
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standpoint, there's nowhere good to go. Alex knows that his proof isn't proof
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and any real scientist that looks at it or any court or legal investigator would
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laugh in his face, so that route is not gonna work. That's one direction he could
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go, trying to pursue legal action against the folks in North Carolina, but he knows
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that's a dead end and it probably could result in a counter suit. Yeah, that he
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would lose. So where does it leave things? If you're presenting to your audience
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that you have definitive smoking gun evidence, this is a bioweapon and, you
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know, they were selling it to China and it's the most deadly thing ever and, well,
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it's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors. Then what do you think
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the natural conclusion someone might come to is? Take action! You need to go
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solve this! We need to stop this! Do you not think that you're getting dangerously
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close to the point where your audience is gonna start calling in and saying,
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hey, why aren't you telling us to, like, you should be telling us to burn down
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UNC Chapel Hill and kill those scientists. Yeah, absolutely. They're murdering
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thousands of people right now. Alex, you've proven this. Yeah! You have it, dead to
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rights, smoking gun, why aren't you, like, look, call the fucking cops at least!
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No, no, no, no, cops are globalists. That's fair. Like, it's a problem with his
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rhetoric. If he has proven demonstrably that this is a bioweapon that's killing
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hundreds and hundreds of people and you've cracked the conspiracy, yeah, you
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need to call in the mobs now. That's, based on everything that exists in
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Alex's show, that's, like, where he should be. So Alex has backed himself into a
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corner with the sensationalism of his coronavirus coverage. According to
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Infowars, this is a civilizational level threat that's definitely a bioweapon and
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now he accidentally allowed Francis Boyle to come on and definitively name
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the culprits. This kind of leaves Alex with only a few choices. One is to
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continue escalating and risk one of his listeners taking him seriously and
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trying to hurt the folks at UNC, which is kind of the natural conclusion a person
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would have listening to his show. Another option is to throw Boyle under the bus
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and say that he's wrong about this, but if Alex does that he risks calling into
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question all the other stuff that Boyle has told him about the outbreak and it
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also risks his ability to have Boyle on when the next outbreak comes and he
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needs to sell his survival food. I guess the third option is this. Be a coward and
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ramble for about half an hour about how you can't cover the story because it's
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already a solved case and the only thing left to do for Alex is rally the troops.
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This is really, really a good case study for why even if you're a propagandist
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conspiracy theorist and even if it seems like it's appealing to dabble in the
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pandemic outbreak stuff, it's just not a good idea to go all-in with it. It's a
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delicate conspiracy game and as you can see here, it's not even a line that a pro
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like Alex can walk well. This is like an episode of Law & Order where
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they go through all the facts of the case and they solve the mystery
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and they're like, alright, we got him. The end. And they never do anything else. It's just like, hey, we figured out who it was. Next case. I mean it's a real
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problem for Alex's narratives to have solved it. Like, you can't do
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that. No. It doesn't, like, what do you do now? Yeah. You agitate against the people
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in North Carolina? I guess. I mean, what do you do? I mean, if you are actually
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telling me in real life, 100% true, that you know exactly who is infecting
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thousands of people, killing people all over the world and nobody is doing
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anything about it, there's two guys there who literally did this, then it's like I
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let's get them, let's go find them. I don't know what to do here.
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Call the FBI. It's something. It's nonsensical and like there's really
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nothing you can do. No. For Alex, there are no real good options. Just move on,
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pretend it never happened. Francis Boyle kind of fucked him. Yeah. Well, I think he fucked himself.
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Well, of course. He asked Francis Boyle to prove it. Yes. Francis Boyle
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fucked him over by doing exactly what Alex wanted. Yeah, exactly. As always, Alex fucked
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himself over. That's not what Alex wanted. No. Alex needs to live in that in-between
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space. Like, I've talked about it before, the kind of panic that Alex wants is the
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kind that drives you to buy his products, not the point where you're like, you feel
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justified in actually torching a building. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the wrong kind of
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fanaticism for Alex, by and large. If it does come, he gets to call it a false
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flag and he can, you know, he can deal with it. Yeah. Generally. But he doesn't
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want that because it's more trouble than it's worth usually. So Alex is done with
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this now for the time being. We took a little bit of a diversion there down
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through the Sunday episode and then his interview with Boyle because I think
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it's important, like, he's not explaining that headline, the smoking gun thing. Yeah.
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And, you know, I think it, we need to address it for the sake of completion
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with our coverage. But now we get back to the February 20th show and Alex is back
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on the, uh, Trump is about to pardon Roger.
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Of course.
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All right. Trump is set to speak on prison reform and I'm sure that'll be Roger
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Stone. As soon as that happens, we're going to go to it. We have another special
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guest popping in, but I'll get to all your calls. So he's got a special guest.
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He said Randy Credico is going to be ready. Credit. Oh yeah. We've already got
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Tyler Nixon. So yeah, yeah. We're gold. It's on. I thought for sure. Randy
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Credico. Alex has said it, but, uh, in the, in the meantime, he goes to calls and,
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uh, this caller, uh, he has, uh, this caller seems, uh, weird.
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So, um, yeah. Um, have you heard of the cosmic cowboy trilogy? I've heard that
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name and I've never, what is it as a book? Yeah. It's a movie strip that I wrote
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in 2011 and, um, it prophesied Trump's move to, uh, to, uh, the embassy move in
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Jerusalem in 2018. So it was like a, a nine year prophetic look. Oh yeah. Heard
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of that. Of course I've heard of that. What is it? You see how full of shit Alex
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is. I know everything. So of course I know that cosmic cowboy trilogy. It's a
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script that I wrote. Oh shit. That happens a lot with Alex. Like just like
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things he could not possibly be aware of. There's just, I like that. That's what
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do I have in my pockets? Is it a ring? So Alex plays a commercial. He goes, uh, to
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break and he comes back and this commercial is on the show. Uh, and it's
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for this thing. He has a new website, operation, win 2020.com. Sure. And what it
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is is basically just a place where people can get those, uh, duct tape
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stickers to put over their mouths to go to Trump rallies. Right. Right. That all
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say it for wars.com on them. Of course, one of them says I am Q. Oh, he's tried
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to capitalize all the Q a lot of people. So bad. Uh, it's, it's dumb. He's just
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like, we can, we can take over these Trump rallies and we can take over
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everything with all we have to do with stickers on our mouths. Um, we're not,
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we don't need to listen to the commercial, but there's one part that's
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pretty funny. Visit operation, win 2020.com to discover how you can join the
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second American revolution and secure the first amendment, not just for
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ourselves, but for future generations. I recently told the former head of
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psychological warfare at the state department, Dr. Steve, about our plan.
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And he loved it.
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I'm Steve, but Jenna, can I approve of this message?
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I recently told Steve about this and he loved it. He loved it. So, you know,
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it's great for you to judge my plans. Steve loves it. All right. So after that
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commercial, Alex gets around to a special guest and I was like, fucking
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sweet. Let's get critical on here. Maybe he'll do an impression or two. I would
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love it. I'm going to stop right here. I'm just going to be straight up with
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you. I don't need to have this guest on to sell storeable food. This ties into
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the coronavirus and how crazy it is. And then weeks ago, almost all of the big
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food companies have sold out. His fucking guest is the guy who runs my
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Patriots supplier. It's just as food sponsor. That's a surprise guest.
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Special guest. Well, he's on cause he has a very important message and that
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is, hey, hey, y'all prices going up. Yeah. And yes, we're selling storeable
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food here. I sell it when there's not a crisis going on. What concerns me is
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we're a month into this and food sales aren't going down. They're going up. And
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so you guys, I was talking to you last night and this morning, you're going to
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have to raise prices a little bit because food prices are going up.
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Prices going up. Hold on. Let me ask you a question down. Have you and I ever
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done an episode where maybe Alex says specifically that these guys are great
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because they are not opportunists who are raising prices in the face of a
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crisis, man, but they have to, because they're, they talk about this quite a
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bit. Like their price for the raw material is already gone up and they've
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eaten it. They've eaten though. They have to pass it along eventually or else
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they're never going to turn a profit. No. So Alex asks him like, you know, hey,
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what's going on with this situation? This guy, what a dumb dumb. If you notice
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that the death count or not the death count, I'm sorry, those infected in the
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US, the number was like 15. Suddenly you can't get that number or the number that
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are under quarantine or self-quarantine in the US. You saw a story a couple of
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days ago, 4,500 in California quarantined or self-quarantined, 712 in the state of
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Washington. Why is there nobody adding up that number to tell us what the picture
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truly is? And why has it a number of infections number kind of just stopped
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being reported? I have no idea what self-quarantine means, but I would assume
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that it'd be a figure that is impossible to report accurately. As people who don't
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go outside much. How is anyone going to be able to accurately capture the figure
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of how many people are self-isolating? Seems outside the scope of a researcher.
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As for the US cases of the virus, this dude's just making it up that people
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have stopped reporting on it. There's an article right here from the New York Times
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that the headline coronavirus cases in the US reach 34. There's an article in CBS
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News right here about how many of the people who represent that
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uptick from the previous figure are US citizens who were evacuated from the
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Diamond Princess cruise ship and are now being quarantined in the United States.
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Sure. There hasn't been a media blackout about this. It's a topic that's being
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covered. You can find the stories easily if you look for them. However, if you're
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trying to drive sales for disaster survival food, it's in your best
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interest to pretend that there's a cover-up going on since that tends to
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imply that things are way worse than they appear and you definitely need
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survival food right now. This is all disingenuous exploitation of a public
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health event to translate it into money. These people should be ashamed of
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themselves and their sales practices. Every time. Why aren't there any
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Muslim leaders condemning this to acts of terrorism? Why? None of them ever do it.
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You never see them do that shit. Uh-huh. Like every fucking time. Just open your
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lying pieces of shit. Look, dude. They recognize that there is people who
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are panicking about this situation, this public health situation. And they're trying to exploit them.
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No, they're not. They wish it wasn't happening. So the fact that you've
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gotten to the point behind the scenes and you're willing to say it on air that, yeah,
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our prices are about to go up in a few weeks and if it keeps on like this, let's just be honest.
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I was talking to you and I was talking to the founder, Matt Redhawk. You guys are
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like, we're going 24 hours a day and we've got the food. We don't know. This is scary.
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It's only going up. We just wish this wasn't as big a crisis. We wish it would stop. We're scared.
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I don't know. We didn't pre-talk about this, but I'm just being honest behind the scenes.
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You've never seen anything like this. We wish we weren't making so much money.
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Didn't pre-talk about this. That means you pre-talked about it.
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Yeah. Why are you even doing that vocal tick where you reveal your lying before you even say something?
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I think it's because he knows what he's doing is really gross.
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Yeah, that's good. That's possible.
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I think he's a bit self-conscious about how fucking insanely gross this is.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But, you know, hey, this is the biggest food sale ever, man. Like everybody's
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making a run on this food. And Alex asks this guy, food guy, why that is.
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Why do you think it's so big? Why do you think this is the biggest food sale? I mean,
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am I right? This is the biggest food sale we've ever seen.
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I have a guess.
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This is the biggest of all time for us as we've been in our partnership and
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business together here. Absolutely. It's because people don't really know because
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we're not getting the true information.
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Or they're getting lied to by Alex.
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Is that why?
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Yeah, I guess.
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It's because people don't know.
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Technically, I do think he's accurate.
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Well, yeah.
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It's the biggest food sale because people are getting bad information.
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They're just getting bad information from the guy who's selling your food.
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Yeah. On purpose.
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Also, speaking of bad information, Alex keeps talking about how all these other food companies,
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they don't even have food. They have long wait times.
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All out.
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I called a bunch of them.
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Did you?
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Yeah.
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Man, it must have been really impossible to get a hold of anybody.
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I'm sure their phones are blocked up, too.
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They don't have any food. Their phones have been cut.
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I called some other food companies, other survival food companies,
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and they all have about the same perspective that this guy does.
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They are all at about a 10-day delivery window up from whatever their
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normal window is because of increased loads.
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I discussed with a couple of them about whether or not they have food,
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and they're like, oh, of course.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Of course we do.
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We are a business.
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In order for us to continue to be a business, we have to do the business part.
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Right.
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All the survival food companies are going through an increase of sales
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because of people like Alex who are sensationalizing all of this,
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but all of them have...
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I don't know.
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Did you ask anybody that directly of like,
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do you guys feel like this panic is being pushed and your food is benefiting from it?
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I didn't ask that directly, but one guy I talked to, I did bring up that
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the delay is because of increased sales surrounding this coronavirus stuff.
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Yeah.
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So I think there is an awareness, at least from one of the guys that I talked to.
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You can't not be aware.
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No, no, no.
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And in hindsight, I really wish I had asked all of them
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if their competitors don't have food.
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I was wondering, I thought you were for sure.
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No, I fucked up.
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I wasn't trying to get like a gotcha thing.
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I was just trying to gauge like, if I call these people, will they have food?
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Yeah.
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And all of them, yes.
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Of course they do.
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I should have asked if they...
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Because I'm interested in if that's an angle that they all have,
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as opposed to just, this is what my Patriot Supply is saying.
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I'm not sure, but whatever the case is, they're all, they all are.
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I don't know what the other companies are doing.
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My Patriot Supply and Alex Jones are running a fucking disgraceful charade here,
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pretending that no one else has any food.
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All that stuff is such bullshit.
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I imagine that the food companies that have like, I don't know,
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I mean, souls or something along those lines,
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are like fully aware that this is all because of the coronavirus panic
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and they're not pushing it.
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They're not trying to get that panic out there.
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Yeah.
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But they're also not exactly like...
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It's not wrong.
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Everybody calm down.
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It's not wrong to make money off of increased demand.
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No, it's wrong to panic people.
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But it's wrong to artificially create that demand
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by the sort of actions that Alex is taking.
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So they get done with this interview and Alex comes back
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and it's time to get to this Trump press conference
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because Trump is giving his speech about criminal justice.
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Now, mike down for this because this clip takes a ride.
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Okay.
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Alex jumps in in media res in the middle of Trump's speech
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and he thinks that Trump is about to pardon Roger.
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On live air.
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Yes.
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Oh, man.
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And it does not go the way he wants.
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Of course not.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, no music here as we start the fourth hour.
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We're preempting a lot of stuff.
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President Trump just took the microphone on a criminal justice reform speech.
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People are expecting him to make a statement on Roger Stone's
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three and a half year Senate's given down by the Obama dropping.
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Judge Jackson, here he is.
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And we are, we are giving him absolute consideration and I have a feeling
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he's going to get that full part feeling.
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I can't tell you.
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I have a feeling that it was a lot of feed.
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Man, we missed that by 10 seconds.
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Maybe somebody else.
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Great gentlemen.
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That's the first thing they said to me when I walked in.
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And, uh, but everybody knows who you are.
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I know who you are.
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That's not Roger Stone.
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So we're going to hear about the black guy gets a pardon too.
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But what about Roger Stone?
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It's somebody completely different.
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Trump is talking about some other guy who's in the room who might get a pardon.
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Oh no.
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Alex, you felt like you had that victory.
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So, so tasty, so tasty, but it's just so black guy.
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Oh man.
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And he even makes it way worse.
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Of course he does.
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Oh yeah.
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Of course he does.
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Alex can't deal with disappointment.
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Asshole.
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So Alex thinks that this speech Trump is giving is going to be where he pardons
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Roger, but in reality is just Trump giving a stump speech at the commencement of a
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hope for prisoners graduation ceremony in Las Vegas.
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It was just part of his reelection publicity speech to her.
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It has nothing to do with Roger or even any of the pardons like with Blago that he
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gave up.
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It's just press.
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So anyway, Trump rambles in the middle of the speech and he talks about like, Hey,
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you know, we're going to get some, Hey, you know, some people getting out of
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prison and there are good people.
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Well, maybe some of them aren't good people.
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He is specifically saying they're like, yeah, I might let some bad people out of
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prison.
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It's weird.
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He can't do that.
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And we want to bring returning citizens, great people, great people in many cases,
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great people, and not in all cases.
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I'm not going to be too politically correct, fellas, right?
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Not at all.
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Okay.
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That's not a laugh line.
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In many cases, we want to rebuild their lives.
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They want to rebuild their lives.
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They want to help us and rebuild our country.
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He's not anti-human.
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That's please.
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That's why they're pissed.
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He's just not, he likes people.
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Yeah.
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He likes letting bad people out of prison.
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I don't understand how, I mean, whatever.
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I mean, bad is kind of a relative term.
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I don't know what the definition of it is, but this is such like a, Oh, this is,
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this is how you can get away with so much shit.
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It's just like do a new evil thing every day.
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And if possible, every 20 minutes, you can't possibly imagine any fucking
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president saying, I'm going to let some bad people out of jail.
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I'm just going to do it.
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I'm not going to be politically correct and say, everybody's great.
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How can you be politically correct?
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You're you're being, you're just, you're Hey, I'm just going to let some murderers
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out.
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And if they murder people, you know what?
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I'm not politically correct guys.
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I shoot from the hip, right?
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You can't possibly do that.
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It's very weird.
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It's a weird speech.
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And so he notices, or I guess he knows that, uh, uh, Miriam and Sheldon Adelson
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are in the audience of this speech that he's given.
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We're going to let some bad people into this room.
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And so he gives them a shout out and this shout out is weird.
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And the job you do, Miriam, what you've done, Sheldon, just overall is incredible.
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And, uh, two great people, just really, and they like a place called Israel very much.
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Would you say that's correct?
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Maybe I have to use the word love a place called Israel, right?
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In your case.
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What the fuck?
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I understand.
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Look, it seems weird that he's thanking Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, mega donors, the GOP
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who are there.
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It's kind of incongruous, but it turns out that the Adelson's run a addiction recovery,
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uh, uh, uh, place in Las Vegas.
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So there is a kind of a relevance to criminal justice reform.
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It does make sense that they would be there, but Trump thanking them and them being like,
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and they love Israel very weird seems unrelated.
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This is, this is like, it must be so similar to what it was like to live during like 85
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to 88 with every time Reagan spoke out loud and everybody was just like, but with the
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internet.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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When, if you heard Reagan speak in those last three years, you must've just been like, I'm
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going to pretend that didn't happen because that was nuts.
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Or you're laughing at not last line, like I'm going to let bad people, like what are
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you talking about?
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It's very upsetting.
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And so he starts talking about Roger, um, which is not really what this commencement
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is for.
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Seems strange to use it as a pulpit to, you know, ramble about your own business.
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Oh, that would, that sounds so out of character.
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But what he does is he says that he's not, he doesn't even use the word pardon.
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He talks about the great power the president has doesn't use, refuses to use the word pardon.
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And he says that he's not going to get involved.
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He's going to let the process work its way out.
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And then he starts rambling about the conspiracy theory about the juror.
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But she had a horrible social media account.
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The things she said on the account were unbelievable.
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She didn't reveal that when she was chosen.
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And she's, I guess, from what I hear, a very strong woman, a very dominant person.
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So she wants people to do whatever she wants.
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When she got on, then she became the four person, four woman on the jury.
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And I assume they asked her a question.
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Do you have any bias?
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Do you have any?
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She didn't say that.
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So no, we paid for the more near documents.
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We have them.
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We have lawyers on it.
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But does this undermine our fair system of justice?
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How can you have, by the way, listeners, you finance like this, did she delete her social
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account?
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Nope.
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And Roger was determined by the same jury to be guilty before the judge issued a sentence.
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And he was determined to be guilty.
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And she started going a little wild, very happy.
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And she started saying things that people said, that's strange.
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That's strange.
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And she started looking at, how can you have a jury pool tainted so badly?
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It's not fair.
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So, I mean, you can hear like slight nervous laughter from people like, if you're there
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for this like graduation from a rehabilitation program, like prison to release, like you're
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there because maybe one of your loved ones has been trying really hard to get their life
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back on track.
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And this is a big time for them.
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It's very, it's, you know, you get to reconnect with this person and bring them back into
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your day to day lives and you've got the fucking president rambling about a conspiracy theory
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about a juror.
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I...
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It's, it's like, how do you, how do you handle that?
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This is, this is a, this is him being a reality TV show star.
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This is him like teasing it out.
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Like this is literally him being like, I don't know, maybe on the next episode we'll part.
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Yeah.
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It's like, fuck you, God, I really, it's really disrespectful to the people who are there
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for this event.
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Absolutely.
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Like he fucking cares.
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No, I know.
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It's probably maybe a minor issue, but it's not for them.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, he does literally say that I'm not going to pardon him, which means he's probably
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going to pardon him, but he doesn't say he's going to, doesn't use the word pardon.
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Alex seems to be pretty happy by this turn of events and is pretending that it's definite
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evidence that the pardon has happened.
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That's Trump without a teleprompter.
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That's a real Donald Trump, the one we love.
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The insane one.
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The deep state's going to strike back after this, man, they are having their ass handed
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to them.
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Roger Stone, give it three and a half years crumps about the pardoning bigger than Dallas.
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I'm Alex Jones.
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This is the front lines of the American compliment your health with hemp derived.
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Cannabinoid oil got cut off by the break there doesn't seem very happy.
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Get some CBD.
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He seems a bit dejected by, cause I think he thought that that press conference was
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going to be the way he could end the show was going to be a huge and also like everything
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is not going the way he wants it to on this episode.
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Like he wanted Owen Troyer to do a big publicity stunt.
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He got bogged down by complaining and, and arguing with the people he's now trying to
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do this big hurrah with Roger at the end.
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It's not going, he tried to like, I don't know, lackadaisically do that.
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I can't cover the Corona virus news that didn't go anywhere.
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This is a very disappointing show.
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It's all over the place, very disappointing.
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So Alex has Matt Bracken taken over in the fourth hour, right?
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But he'd need like that.
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That's not the way that left a bad taste in his mouth and on the left, that's a, you gotta
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end on the left.
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So he goes back to the, back to the, the batter's box.
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He's getting ready to take some, take some swings.
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Um, and he's like, all right, well go to calls, you know, I'll take a caller.
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That'll be great.
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They'll tell me I'm awesome.
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Unfortunately he gets a sovereign citizen.
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Oh God.
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So regards to Roger Stone, I do want to say if, if it did work out any differently, cause
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I got a feeling he's going to be pardoned, but in the event this were to come up for
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other people, he honestly should get rid of his, a torners at law because I mean, those
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are titles of nobility and you know, he should stand in the law in proprietor persona as
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the attorney.
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In fact, and use his saving.
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Spirit's what matters.
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You can get into legalese all day.
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Legalese.
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Well, if you, if you directly bypass the system and start talking to the elven council, then
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hold on, we don't need to get bogged down in legalese.
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Hey man, he gets close to that.
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Yeah.
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And I mean the U S corporations bankrupt man, and we aren't 14th amendment, you know, citizen
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slaves.
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So we should just stand up.
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Like even with the DMV, like don't, don't get those license plates, man.
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Don't register your vehicle.
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You're not a birth certificate.
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No, no, no.
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The globalist have all these legalese things.
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And I get what you're saying.
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A lot of it's true.
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Really?
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But at the end of the day, come on, buddy, you take the country back and restore American
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values.
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Then we can deal with everything else.
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I mean, does that make sense?
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Here's what makes sense.
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Alex can't tell this guy that that's all bullshit.
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Can't do it because that risks alienating a large swath of his audience.
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So he has to play this game where he thinks some of this is legitimate, but he can never
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really be like, yes, this is what you need to do.
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Send your social security card back to the government.
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Be specific on what it is you do think is true.
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A lot of what you're saying is true.
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Now you, a lot of what you're saying is true.
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Give me one thing.
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He's in that in between state where pushing back on this risks alienating the hard sovereign
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citizen support that exists within his audience and validating it makes it so like his show
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is this stupid or stupider.
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So we have one last clip and it's Alex, like, I don't know why he didn't just hang up on
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this dude, but the, uh, the sovereign citizen wants advice on what he should do.
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My advice would be go, go to a therapist, go home, go to a therapist, talk to somebody
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because you believe some things that are not based on reality.
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Therapy is the title of nobility, Dan.
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That is true.
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Uh, LCSW is a part of the crown.
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Um, and Alex has some other advice, but like what, what would like a day to day person
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like me, you know, in his twenties still, you know, in quote unquote school getting,
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you know, I would go to city council and county commissioners every week and give a three
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minute speech about the world and that'll dominate them and destroy them until others
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come and speak.
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Uh, I would start a YouTube show.
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I started an online thing.
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I would just read info or stories on air.
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Oh, great.
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Read info or stories on your own YouTube channel.
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Create another media tend to tend to go for me on YouTube and read my shit where I'm not
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allowed to be.
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So go down to city council and make yourself a public embarrassment for three minutes at
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a time and you'll totally destroy the city councils.
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What should I do?
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Here's my advice.
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Work for me for free and embarrass yourself in public so you're even more alienated from
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other people around you.
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You fall deeper into the only listen to me and the other people who agree with you.
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It's a great system.
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Everybody else is a liar trying to kill you.
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Bad advice, Alex.
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Bad advice.
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We're at the end of this February 20th, 2020 episode and I think that Alex has dealt quite
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well with the fact that his best friend got sentenced to three years and plus in prison
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and great.
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This show sucks.
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Oh man.
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What a disappointment.
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I just, I have this dream in my head that I like, I really hope Trump abandoned stone
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because I think stone might be the only rat fucker able to rat fuck Trump.
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Right?
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I think he's, I think he's the only one who could really do it and I want to see what
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happens because he's got so much shit, right?
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He's got so much shit.
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Most likely.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Not have so much shit.
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If you're stone and Trump.
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But I think that that assumption that you're making is also what animates all of the desperate
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defense of Roger.
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Oh no.
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Yeah.
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People like Alex and Owen also assume that he knows so much and that's why they have
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to bend over backwards to try and create these narratives and it extends so far.
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Like Tucker Carlson even plays the same game.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And some of that might also just be based on the fact that him and Roger are friends.
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It's hard to tell where the line of fear of what Roger knows and personal affinity where
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that is.
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Right.
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I imagine those lines blur together just like in a personal sense of like, I, well, I mean,
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yeah, if you, if you're friends with Roger stone there, the longer your friendship goes,
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the more part of your friendship is like, I wish I hadn't said that to Roger.
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You know, like there's something there.
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Can't shake them.
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Yup.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, uh, we come to the end of this and I just think that Alex has done a pretty disgraceful
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job on all counts.
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Just awful.
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Just awful.
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Just trash.
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Just awful.
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Um, but we'll be back.
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Uh, but until then, uh, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledge, right?
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Dot com.
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Yup.
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It's all, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge, underscore fight and that go to bed.
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