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now now now knowledge fight

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dan and jordan i am sweating knowledgefight.com it's down to prey

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i have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge right i'm sick of them posing

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as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledge fight.

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Dan and George.

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Knowledge fight.

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.

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Need, need money.

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and, Andy.

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Stop it.

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Andy and, Andy and Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a system caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge fight.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed, we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Your dulcet tones are incredible.

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However, I must ask you,

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do you do any impressions or voices?

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No.

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I didn't think so.

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You would never have to, right?

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What do you mean?

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Your voice is incredible.

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Why would anybody be like, sound different?

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Nobody wants you to sound different.

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No, I don't believe that was ever part of my comedic repertoire.

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Sure, but you've never dabbled?

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No, and it even goes further than that.

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I killed an impressionist when I did.

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And a mime, because he was the opposite of an impressionist.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, of course.

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Physical impressionist.

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No, I took languages in school.

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I took French and ancient Greek.

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And whenever I would try and speak those languages,

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you know, to be like a beau quoi.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You have that tendency towards doing an accent.

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You like to do an exaggerated...

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No, I do not.

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Oh, you don't like it?

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No, I would always try and resist that urge

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or that feeling of like, I have to dress up my French

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with a sounding like Pepe Le Pew or something.

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Very Parisian, yes, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so I always have been very averse to that.

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I guess I do a good Alex.

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That's not true.

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I just talk like this.

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That's not a good impression.

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That's probably the only one I got.

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Yeah, you've never tried...

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Give me someone to do.

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I'll try.

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Oh, I mean the obvious one.

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Everybody does Christopher Walken, right?

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No, I don't want to do that.

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Well, then that previous statement is now wrong.

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So I don't know a lot about impressions, Jordan,

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but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.

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And I don't know much about either.

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You don't do any impressions?

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No, I don't think...

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Give me a Nicholson.

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Oh, man, now I can't...

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Shit, this is not good.

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This is not good.

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I don't do any impressions either.

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Anyway, this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.

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And today, Jordan, I think a lot of people probably thought

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that Trump got impeached at the end of last week.

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A lot of people would think that because it's true.

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Because that happened, I think a lot of people might have assumed,

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hey, these guys are going to rush out a Friday episode.

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We did not.

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And one of the reasons for that was I felt like if we do...

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We'd have to record it on Thursday.

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Right.

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And that means we could only have Thursday's show to respond to.

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Whereas if we waited till Monday, it would be Thursday and Friday.

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So today we have December 19th and 20th from the end of last week.

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And, you know, it's a silly thing, this episode.

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Quite silly, quite upsetting.

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Of course. I imagine it either goes, he talks nothing but impeachment

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or he doesn't even mention it throughout the show.

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It's somewhere in the middle.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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But one of the other reasons I didn't think it was worthwhile to rush out some episode

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is I think pretty much everybody knows what his take on it is going to be.

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That is that, well, it's all a sham.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Scam globalists.

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And he'd been prepping his audience for it already.

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He's been saying that the House is going to vote to impeach.

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For sure.

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He has no reason to freak out or anything.

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I didn't expect any fireworks and I didn't get them.

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But there is some really messed up stuff that goes on, particularly on the 19th.

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And then also some fun stuff.

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We need to steal all the House of Representative shoes.

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That would be a more reasonable thing than some of the things that are suggested.

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Alright.

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And we'll get to all that, but before we do, Jordan can take a moment to say thank you

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to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show.

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So first of all, Jon, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Jon.

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Thank you, Jon.

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Next.

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Dr. Active Visionary!

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Dr. Active Visionary.

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Thank you so much.

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Next.

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Mike!

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Mike.

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Thanks, Mike.

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Next.

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Fran.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Fran.

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Next.

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Kara.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Kara.

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Thank you.

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Next.

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Matthew.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Matthew.

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Thank you, Matthew.

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And finally, I'd like to say thank you

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to a couple of people who donated on an elevated level.

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We appreciate that very much.

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Both fake names, pseudonyms, noms de plume.

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Are you, you can't be sure.

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I'm positive.

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Okay.

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One of them, fun.

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The other, maybe upsetting.

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Okay.

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So first, the second juiciest ice cube.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat and also piss radish.

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Okay.

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Thank you so much.

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Which one is mad at which is good?

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey mate, that's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie

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on this Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, second juiciest ice cube and piss radish.

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Yes, thank you very much to both of you.

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If you're listening out there and you're thinking,

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hey, I enjoyed the show,

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I'd like to support what these gents do,

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you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the button that says support the show,

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we would appreciate it.

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It would be lovely.

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So we're here on the 19th.

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Trump's been impeached.

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Alex is having a lot of feelings about it.

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Right, right, right, right.

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And before we jump in,

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gotta do a little bit of a out of context drop.

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Let's see it.

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This is one of my favorites, actually.

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Okay.

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Of all time or just recent?

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It's just a good out of context drop.

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Okay.

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And I see you made by God.

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I respect you.

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You're incredible!

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I love that.

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So inspiring.

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It just makes me feel good.

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Play it one more time.

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You're incredible!

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And I see you made by God.

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I respect you.

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You're incredible!

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Okay.

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So enthusiastic about how incredible people are.

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It takes a few listens to really, yeah.

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I like it.

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It hits home.

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Yeah.

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So we start on the 19th

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and we hear a very familiar thing from Alex

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and that is today is the most important show

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I have ever done.

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Okay.

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Now I've been on the year 25 years

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and as the years go on,

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I've said many times,

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this is one of the most important broadcasts

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we've ever done.

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I used to say it once a year,

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then I might say it every six months

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because there's a quickening.

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Things are getting more serious, more crazy.

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The human animal cloning,

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the open devil worship,

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the open pedophilia.

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They're gonna be all gone.

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The open destruction of the family.

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The open 5G, the fluoridation,

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the spiked vaccines,

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the Trojan horse take down of humanity.

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Vaccines get you drunk these days.

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But this broadcast is undoubtedly

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up to this point the most important broadcast

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I will ever do.

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And so I'm not someone to get butterflies

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or choke up,

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but I am sweating right now

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and it's cold in here.

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It's cold.

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It's cold.

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So we got a situation where,

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I mean this is just such an Alex thing.

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It's like I know that I do say

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that this is the most important show ever a lot,

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but this time it actually is.

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I used to say it infrequently

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and now it's because of the news I'm sure.

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It's because of the news that I'm saying it

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every couple of weeks now.

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I've backed myself into a corner

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where everything is fucking extreme as hell

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and guys it is coming down fast.

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So today is the most important show ever.

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And part of that is,

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I mean because Trump got impeached.

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Sure.

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You'd expect that to be your most important show ever.

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It's a pretty important one, yeah.

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Yeah, so Alex has a theory about what's going to happen

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and it's gonna play out over the course of this episode,

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but I will say that it's kind of convoluted

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and poorly delivered.

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Here is where Alex sort of starts to touch on it.

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These are the traitors.

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These are the sellouts.

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These are the enemies of the republic.

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And so there is a program.

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There is an operation, there is a plan

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to remove the president within the show trial

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that the house has already had projected into the Senate

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using that as a platform in the media as a show trial

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to spring a bunch of other scandals

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which they're starting to announce.

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And then the Supreme Court is meant,

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and all the blackmail they've got on some of those members,

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like the Chief Justice,

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to move in and say the Senate has not been impartial

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and have the Supreme Court make a run at the president

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in a true judicial coup.

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Really?

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This is openly being discussed by not long for this world.

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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It's all coming up.

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The Ultimate Cliffhanger.

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So, I mean, we still have these themes

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of everybody's being blackmailed,

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but now apparently Chief Justice Roberts

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is being blackmailed too or something.

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I assume Larry Nichols has got to him first.

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg has come out

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and is talking about this plan.

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Sounds like her.

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What a cliffhanger.

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That sounds like her.

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So Alex isn't making a lot of sense,

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but he'll get more in detail as things go along.

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But here's the thing, there is a plan in place, obviously.

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A really bad one, according to him.

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Well, but he's only given you the broad strokes here.

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He hasn't given you the meat.

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All right, all right.

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We gotta wait till we get to the meat.

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Okay, so there are more moving parts.

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Plenty.

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Probably too many.

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Like all good plans,

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you wanna have a lot of moving parts.

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You want this to be Ocean's 7,000.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You want as many conspirators as possible

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because that's how you get things done.

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Exactly.

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Especially secretly.

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Yeah, oh yeah.

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But look, dude, there's a plan,

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and Alex is telling you that this is the plan.

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And everybody's being blackmailed,

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although he's not proven that in any meaningful way at all.

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But you don't need to just blindly trust Alex.

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Good.

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Look at his track record.

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He's been right about so many things.

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I wouldn't say that.

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Now, everything we cover here is incredibly important.

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That's how you feel.

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I predicted that the footage of Epstein's suicide

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and the previous attempted suicide

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where they tried to kill him would disappear.

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That wasn't hard to deduce

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because they murdered him in cold blood inside there.

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Now, it turns out

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that the video's gone missing in both cases, of course,

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as we told you, two plus two equals four.

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So a lot of these deductions are easy.

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So it was reported in the New York Daily News on the 18th

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that footage from Jeffrey Epstein's initial suicide attempt

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that Alex doesn't believe is real had gone missing.

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Sure.

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That story was based on comments

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by Assistant US Attorney Jason Swergold who said that,

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quote, it is our understanding

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that the video no longer exists.

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It was not preserved.

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In the initial article on the 18th,

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it was reported that the government was asked to,

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quote, look further into what happened to the footage.

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And they did because on December 19th,

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the New York Daily News posted an article with the headline,

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quote, missing surveillance footage

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of Jeffrey Epstein's suicide attempt has been found.

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That new article included this quote.

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Quote, earlier today, the government confirmed

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with MCC staff that the video was preserved

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by MCC staff upon defense counsel's request.

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Who was that quote from?

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You guessed it, US Assistant Attorney Jason Swergold.

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Naturally, the most simple explanation

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for this whole situation is irresponsible reporting

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based on irresponsible comments

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from an Assistant US Attorney.

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He spoke kind of out of turn,

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made comments that were taken as gospel,

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then learned pretty quickly that he was incorrect

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in that assumption.

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The New York Daily News turns around and posts a story

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that the missing footage had been found,

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but that's even kind of bullshit

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because based on these stories,

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I'm not certain that footage was ever missing

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in the first place.

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It all doesn't matter because now the fact

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that a day later they retracted the footage

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that the footage was missing will be used as proof

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that the footage actually is missing

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and the globalist shook down Swergold

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so he would lie to the New York Daily News or something.

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Alex didn't predict anything in this case.

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He's just full of shit.

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Boy, did they not know that reporting

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that the footage has gone missing

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is going to be far more popular than the second day

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when they report that it's been found.

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The damage will be done by that article.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Call it damage, call it impression, whatever.

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You will concretely put this into people's minds

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in a way that you're not going to undo with a correction.

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Exactly.

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Now, good on you for printing that.

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And you know what?

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Here's the deal.

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I don't know what the right answer is

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because if that footage is actually missing,

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then that's a story that you should report.

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Right.

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But someone asserting that it's missing,

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maybe hold onto that story

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until you do a little bit more digging on it.

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Right, right.

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Well, I mean, your recycle bin on what?

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On Windows automatically deletes after 30 days.

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So it was only a couple of days after that.

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I'm sure they just restored the file.

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Not hard.

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Yeah, I don't know what the right answer is,

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but I know that it's not this

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because Alex, by this point, it's the 19th.

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He has every reason to have access

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to the new New York Daily News article

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that corrects the situation, but he doesn't

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because the narrative is much better

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with the erroneous information.

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I don't know what you should do

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if you're the New York Daily News,

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and I wouldn't, I guess what I would say is

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write the story as it's just this guy saying that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Maybe, but I don't even know if that works.

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I don't know.

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Well, I mean, it is one of those things

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where it's like that is an incredible scoop.

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If the New York Daily News got that actual information

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and they're the first to go public with it, that's huge.

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That's gonna be a big deal,

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but also it tends to be a situation

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where it's like holy shit, this is huge news

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is too good to be true all too often

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with conspiracy theory type stories.

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Yeah, and you gotta be careful.

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Yeah.

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Because it matters.

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Oh, yeah.

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So Alex has a big announcement

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that is related to this whole impeachment thing.

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Sure, Epstein did it.

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And he's really hyping this up.

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So let me make the big announcement here.

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I could have air raid sirens going on in the background.

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I could have drum rolls.

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I could light my hair on fire.

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Cool.

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I mean, if I thought cutting my finger off on air

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would get your attention to really listen to me, I'd do it.

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I believe you.

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I don't.

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I mean, that's how important all of this is.

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I mean, hell, I'd give my life right now

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if it meant we could beat these people for sure

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because the innocents deserve it.

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It's a good price to pay.

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By the way, I'm not suicidal

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when I live to be 150 and love God.

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My point is I'm willing to give my life to beat these people

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because that's what it's all about.

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And your life is just your earth suit in this experience.

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But I'm done talking about that.

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This is the most important broadcast I've ever done.

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And you can have a thought with thousands of major points,

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hundreds of thousands of sub points

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and data and knowledge and background and understanding

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that all come together with certainty.

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And when you have that certainty

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and you see it time and time again

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come true exactly as you envisioned,

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that's called beyond wisdom.

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It's called discernment and it's called sight.

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The second sight?

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But 99% of it is actually

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the incredible electrochemical brain supercomputer

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integrating all those data points,

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but that little 1% of spirit,

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the electrochemical internet

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takes you across to the threshold.

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So what I'm gonna do, this is so big,

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is I'm just gonna stop for this segment,

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kind of mention some of the other news.

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And then when I come back in the next segment,

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I'm gonna come in with precision.

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I have a gigantic story.

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I'm gonna ramble about nothing.

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The amazing electrochemical brain.

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What the shit?

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I also think, if you listen to that,

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I think Alex is describing being confused.

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Because he's saying you got this story,

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you got 100 different data points.

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So many different things.

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I think he's talking about the difference

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between actually being confused

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and presenting it as certainty.

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But whatever the case is, it's all this.

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Like the beginning of this episode is all this like,

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I got this big news, I have to do it next segment

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because I gotta do it right.

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Gotta do it good.

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Gotta do a good job.

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That's so funny.

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I just imagine going back and seeing Jesus

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giving the sermon on the mount,

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but he's like, okay, first hour,

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we're just gonna do a couple little things.

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I'm gonna riff for a while.

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The big stuff.

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I'm gonna get you some big stuff after this next hour.

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But for now, I really gotta just riff this out.

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If it's that big news, yeah, teasing shit, yeah.

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Yeah, it seems like if there's a message,

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you should get it out, but he does not.

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So he gets to some news.

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He said he was gonna get to some of these other headlines.

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And one of them I found deeply upsetting.

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We're gonna play this clip coming up.

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GOP Congressman compares Trump's impeachment

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to Pearl Harbor.

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The United States could take getting 3,000 people killed

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and a bunch of battleships sunk and it was terrible

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and it was horrible.

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And quite frankly, Churchill was working with Roosevelt

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and they had the purple and blue code completely and knew

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even the day of the attack and ordered the carriers

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out to sea so they wouldn't be sunk.

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And so the old obsolete battleships,

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no good for Pacific warfare would be destroyed.

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Really?

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And they sacrificed 3,000 of our people.

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We were already at war with Japan for two years in China.

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What?

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People like E. Howard Hunt were there

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sniping people daily.

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And that's how you win wars.

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I'm not defending that.

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It's not a false flag.

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What?

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The Japanese did it.

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But it was a gambit where you sacrificed a pawn in chess

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to lure your opponent out to win the entire game.

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That's all declassified.

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That is not declassified.

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But I think that the way he's describing Pearl Harbor there

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is exactly how he, like that's not what he thinks

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about 9-11.

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No.

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He calls that a false flag.

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Right.

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It's weird.

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I don't understand what he means by anything.

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Okay.

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But firstly, not to split hairs,

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but 2,335 Americans died in the attack on Pearl Harbor

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and 64 Japanese combatants.

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I know Alex is just speaking in vague terms,

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but he's off by like 30%.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of a big deal.

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Yeah.

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Now, to the bigger issue,

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and that is that Alex believes this attack on Pearl Harbor

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was a false flag.

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Although, for some reason, like I said,

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in this instance, he's splitting hairs

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and saying it's not a false flag.

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Because the Japanese did it.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Whatever.

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I have no idea what his definitions he uses for anything are

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because I've definitely heard him say

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that Pearl Harbor was a false flag in the past.

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I mean, it was a false flag.

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So the stuff he's saying here is not true.

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There have not been declassified documents

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proving that there was a stand down

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or even that the US had specific prior knowledge

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of the Japanese attack.

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Alex is even playing fast and loose with decryption

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because he's not specifying which Japanese codes

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we cracked up till that point.

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He's saying the purple code.

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Yeah, that's largely true.

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But those are some of the codes that we had cracked.

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But that doesn't mean that we had the ability

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to decipher the relevant messages regarding the attack.

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Wrong.

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Once you decipher one code, you decipher all codes, Dan.

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That's just like how if you learn Greek,

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you know all other languages.

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It makes sense.

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10 separate inquiries have been done

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to examine this claim of foreknowledge

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and none support the theory that Alex is putting forth.

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The only real evidence I can find of truth

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behind the code breaking stuff

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is that there was a coded message that we translated

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which was intercepted the day before the attack.

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The message indicated that Japan intended

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to break off negotiations and formal relations

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with the United States the next day.

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That was interpreted by most as being indicative

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that the Japanese did intend to attack something

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but the military at the time had been expecting them

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to invade Thailand or somewhere else in the Pacific

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that would effectively break off negotiations by itself.

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That was the kind of the interpretation

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the message had at the time.

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It wasn't that they were going to bomb Pearl Harbor

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because that's a gigantic leap to make.

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But it's a sort of gigantic logical leap

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Alex is pretty accustomed to making.

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So most of what Alex is saying is 100% based

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on a book or pamphlet put out in 1944

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called The Truth About Pearl Harbor.

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It was written by a guy named John T. Flynn.

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Flynn was an extreme right-wing figure in the 40s

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and was instrumental in the organizing

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of the America First Commission.

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You may remember them as a group

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who were deeply anti-Semitic and pro-fascist

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but pretended that they were just anti-interventionists.

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I wouldn't call them rabidly anti-Semitic.

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Flynn was a bit of a propagandist

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for the America First Commission

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being involved in creating advertisements

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meant to sway public opinion away

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from getting involved in the European war.

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The AFC dissolved right after Pearl Harbor

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since the U.S. had joined the war

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which made the whole don't join the war argument

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a little harder.

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Yeah, that one's tough.

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Even though they'd been unsuccessful

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in keeping the U.S. out of the war,

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the members of the AFC didn't just give up.

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And one of the prongs of their further work

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was to create the narrative that the only reason

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the U.S. got into the war in the first place

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was because of a conspiracy.

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If it hadn't been for the meddling communists

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and evil forces within our own government,

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that attack on Pearl Harbor wouldn't have happened

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and we wouldn't have gotten into the war.

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So when you think about it,

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the Axis powers are really the victims

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in this whole thing.

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Of course, yeah, absolutely.

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How dare they hurt those poor Nazis?

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The other angle here is that the folks

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on the extreme right, like John Flynn,

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hated FDR because of his social programs

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and myriad other reasons.

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Stop making people's lives better!

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And Roosevelt was running for reelection in 1944.

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So this book was released as a large-scale attempt

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to smear him and derail his campaign

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with accusations that he knew in advance

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that this attack was coming,

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but he let it happen so he could go to war.

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Alex is just repeating shit some dumb fascist wrote

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about 80 years ago to try and stop FDR's reelection

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and he's pretending it's declassified and totally real.

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This is sad.

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This is sad stuff.

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It's wild to me how you can claim to be an expert

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on World War II of all things.

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One of the most exhaustively researched events

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in human history.

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I can't think of anything

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that has been more exhaustively researched.

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The cover-up would have to be so insane.

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Astonishing, yeah.

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It would include the entire world's leaders,

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which I suppose is the only thing that makes sense

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for him. Historians,

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all of academia. Yeah, exactly.

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Undergraduate students, graduate students.

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Right?

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Fellows.

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It would be crazy.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, I just think that's kind of interesting

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and I think it is one of these really interesting things

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that you find that is like when you trace back

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a lot of sort of dumb conspiracy theories,

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what you end up finding is people who were using these

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for political reasons initially,

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they may or may not have served their political purpose

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at the time and then.

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They echo throughout history, fucking people up.

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Maybe unintentionally they take on a life

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that lives long past the original use of the thing

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that it was being used for.

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In this case, primarily to attack FDR's reelection campaign.

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I mean, in some ways that is very similar

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to Alex immediately following the Boston bombing

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where it's like the cement hasn't dried yet.

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So while I'm there, I can make up whatever story I want

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and an imprint is gonna be left in the cement.

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Yeah, if that was an election year, it'd be even more so.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because it is just politically motivated.

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It is to attack Obama and the globalists

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who are the Democrats.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So yeah, there are similarities in that.

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I think that's a tactic that's pretty much

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not universal because I think there are a lot

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of conspiracy theorists who are mostly apolitical

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in what they are gunning for or what they believe

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that they're involved in.

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They experience it as apolitical,

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but I think there's a lot more of it that is like that

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and Alex particularly.

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It's pretty clear.

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So Alex just gets to rambling.

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He said he was gonna get some news out of the way.

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Sure, sure.

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Doesn't really.

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And he does a lot of fake Jefferson quotes on the show.

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And it was interesting, in this instance,

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he decides to swing further for the fences

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and dig deep into the past for a quote.

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Cicero, the great Roman philosopher and senator,

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said that the traitor is the plague.

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An enemy outside with open banners we can defeat.

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The city is strong to a foreign enemy.

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That mobilizes us.

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But traitors within the Senate, traitors within the Republic

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are the plague and can bring it down.

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And as it was 2,067 years ago when he said that,

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my memory serves.

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It doesn't.

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It is today.

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That's not a real Cicero quote.

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Alex undoubtedly saw this in a meme

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and just accepted it as true.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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But in reality, this quote comes from a book

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called A Pillar of Iron, written by Taylor Caldwell in 1965.

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Caldwell is basing the book on a lot of real sources

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about Cicero.

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But the quotes that are passed around

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about traitors being the carriers of the plague

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were all Caldwell's creation.

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Historically, the far right has used this quote

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to push back against greater social equality, which

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is not surprising.

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Nor is it surprising that Alex, once again,

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has no idea what he's talking about when he's quoting things

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that he's using just to make himself sound smart.

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And you can hear that too, even like 2,067 years ago,

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if my memory serves.

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What are you fucking talking about?

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That's just trying to be fancy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, that's totally fucking, what is it?

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Oh, the guy who named Mount Everest,

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the height has changed now.

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But he measured it at 25,000 feet exactly.

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And he was like, no one is going to fucking believe

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that it's exactly 25,000 feet.

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So he just told people it's 25,002 feet.

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Look at how good I am at measuring things.

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I got it all the way down to two feet, you idiots.

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I understand that impulse.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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For me, it's more like Alex rattling off

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the name of that subsection that he thinks proves

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can't change.

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Right, right, right.

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That's my way of impressing you into thinking

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I know what I'm talking about.

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2,067 years, that's how great my brain is.

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I believe it was on page 67 of your math textbook

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from when you were 19 years old in your first year of college.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's like, you're not going to question me

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if I know all of this.

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I have an eidetic memory for one thing.

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I will question this, Alex.

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You read that into me.

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Anyway, Alex has been trying to, he's got this big news.

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And he said he's going to get to it next segment.

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It's time to get down to business.

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All right, let's get into it right now.

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I'm going to lay this out as best I can.

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And then I intend to open the phones up

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throughout the second, third, and end of the fourth hour

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and Matt Bracken joins us.

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The crew did an excellent job last night

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covering what was unfolding until late in the evening.

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And I have all the evidence here of what

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I'm about to break down.

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But then I also have all the different ways

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and different avenues and different paths

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that we can break down how they are intending

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to make this move.

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Because they do intend on removing President Trump.

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Yeah, they impeached him.

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Yeah, that's the goal.

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That is the end goal of impeachment, right?

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What would they be doing not trying to,

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if they don't intend to remove him, what are we doing here?

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I don't know what kind of fucking news this is.

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Yeah, what are we doing?

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What do you think we're doing if we're not

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intending to remove him?

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Again, all I hear Alex saying there is I'm confused.

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I don't know how to play this.

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This is not, I didn't really think this was going to happen.

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Or whatever, you know, like I have all the evidence

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but I don't know what.

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There's so many angles, so much truth to the, like fuck off.

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Just do your job and say your shit.

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Quit teasing it.

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Yeah, so Alex, but it's going to get down to business.

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And the bottom line is that they plan to impeach Trump.

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I mean, they did.

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They plan to remove him, which is the end

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result that is the process.

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That's the plan.

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They're going to double down, though.

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No, we're already down enough.

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All in, some might say.

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They do intend on removing President Trump.

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And we can say, oh, well, it's blowing up in their face.

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Look at the poll numbers.

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The fact is they're bold and they're crazy

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and they've got a plan.

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And so it is bending towards failing spectacularly.

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But you understand all they do is keep doubling down.

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And so if you look at what a double down at this level

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does when it's an open public kangaroo court railroading,

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well, what comes after that?

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Two kangaroos, was that rhetorical?

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Is he going to lay it out?

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OK, but I just don't want to be like I've

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been for 25 years, laying out very important things

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constantly, gibbering as fast as I can talk,

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trying to get out all the little factoids,

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and then miss the forest for the trees.

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And we're already too far into this segment for me to do it,

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I promise.

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When we come back, I'm going to launch into it all.

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OK, so we're going to do it next segment.

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Man.

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This is, you know what I hear?

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I hear impotence.

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I hear just somebody who is like, fucking shit.

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Like, my fucking dude, the guy who I changed my fucking career

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for, I just took so many hits trying to go down this road

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because I thought it was going to go somewhere.

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He was going to kick all the Mexicans out of the country.

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Didn't happen.

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I thought this was going to work out.

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We were going to install a patriot dictator.

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That was the plan.

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Now he's the third president in history to ever be impeached.

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And god, what the fuck?

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I just hate this level of bullshit news.

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Like, it's November 1963.

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There's some pretty big news about the president.

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We're going to talk about this in the next hour.

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Like, it's kind of, if it's that big a deal,

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you just say it right away.

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You would think.

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Yeah.

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You wouldn't think you have to wait until like, I just,

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I don't have time this segment to get it out.

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I need to apportion two minutes to plug, so I can't get to this.

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Everybody remembers where they were an hour after Kennedy

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died when they finally got the news.

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You know, you might remember the news that Kennedy died,

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but you definitely remember the Brainforce ad

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before the news that Kennedy died.

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Yeah, I think that there's that.

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It's just like, Alex has got to be kind of feeling

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in a fucked up place, because as much as he can make

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the argument now, like, Sandy Hook is not who I am.

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That's not what I did.

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That will not define what I'm remembered as.

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It can be a little difficult to disentangle

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your legacy from Trump's.

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And no matter what ends up happening,

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Trump is in the history books as the third president

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to ever be impeached.

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And so Alex is the champion and the mouthpiece

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of said president.

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That's part of his history too now.

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Yeah.

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And if it doesn't work out well, there's

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not a ton of indication that comes from that.

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He's the type of guy who so far has done nothing

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but gradually put larger and larger necklaces

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made of rocks out of his neck.

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Seems like a hobby.

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Yeah.

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If he were to fall into the into the river,

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he would sink.

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Don't go to Barton Springs.

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Yeah, exactly.

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The globalists in that hot spring

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are not going to save you.

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So Alex comes back from break, and it's time to get into this.

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They want to establish a private corporate world government.

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And they're very, very upset.

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They're very, very upset that humanity is not

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going along with it.

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And so they are going to try what they've done in the past,

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what other empires have done, to get the little people,

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the average people, fighting with each other.

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If you don't pick it up, you're going

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to run out of time in this segment too.

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Quite frankly, this staccato shit has got to stop.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is bad delivery.

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I found myself listening to this.

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I found myself listening to this incredibly uninspired

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and feeling like you're incredible.

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I felt like he was incredibly uninspired as well,

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like this isn't good.

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The best you got is like, oh, they're going to try and sow

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cultural division.

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When have you not said that?

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That's the talking point you've had forever.

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Which is ironic, because the first president

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to be impeached was trying to sow discord between the board.

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Yeah, for racial reasons.

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So you might be asking yourself, why are these Democrats

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doing this impeachment?

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Now, there's a lot of answers.

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To remove the president for committing crimes.

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But what's really motivating it?

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He committed crimes, and we would like to remove him.

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It's an interesting reason you have.

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The truth is slightly different.

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So here's why they had to do impeachment.

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They don't want Trump to get another Supreme Court justice.

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And even if this removal fails, they'll say.

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We're not going to confirm anybody

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that was just impeached, we're not

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going to confirm anybody nominated

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by a president like that.

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I wish they would think that.

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And the average leftist is so dumb,

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they think impeachment is conviction.

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It proves Trump is bad.

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That's what's being said.

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And it changes the subject from all the incredible crimes

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that they've committed and all the bad things

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they've been up to.

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Yeah, this is how Hillary is going to get away

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with Benghazi finally.

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Man, I really wish she hadn't put that uranium one on there,

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but here we are.

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So this theory is fucking stupid.

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There's no vacancy in the Supreme Court.

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And even if Ruth Bader Ginsburg were to die,

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the Republicans already set the precedent

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that an opposition party can refuse

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to hold hearings on Supreme Court nominees

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in election years.

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Now this process, like the very difficult

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and consequence laden process of impeachment,

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is not necessary to achieve the goal of blocking

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a Supreme Court nominee.

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Now would the Democrats do that?

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That's another issue.

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That's another issue.

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The giant cowards.

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Well, sure.

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Hold on.

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Hold on to that criticism.

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Because if you're willing to believe

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that they would fake an entire impeachment in order

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to reach that goal, you'd probably

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think they'd have no problem just saying, hey,

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you remember the rules you guys set four years ago?

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Well, we're playing by them now.

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No nominations until the election.

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I understand what you're saying.

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But in the world where you believe

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that this is what they're doing, you

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would have to believe that they did.

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That would sway public opinion against them, Dan.

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Certainly did for the Republicans.

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Didn't you see how it destroyed Mitch McConnell's career?

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Anyway, my point is that this is not a compelling motive

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that Alex is suggesting for why impeachment would go through.

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So anyway, everybody's being threatened.

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And I don't know.

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Alex, he's still trying to get to his big reveal of what the.

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What hour are we in?

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We're still in the first hour.

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OK, well, that's better than I expected.

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Yeah, but it's probably towards the end of that first hour.

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Anyway, senators are being threatened,

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and the Supreme Court is coming into play.

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Now, I have been saying since before this started three

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months ago that they will impeach him

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in the House and then when it gets to the Senate,

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they're going to pull out the stops of blackmail,

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arm twisting threats against the senators.

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And I also said the Supreme Court

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could then be brought into play to claim

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that people weren't impartial.

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And that would just create enough of a cloud,

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like the Democrats did with the election three years ago,

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to create the real civil unrest going into the election year.

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To tear the nation apart, which is

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what the globalists and the Chicoms

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want to undermine the nation.

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That's been their plan all along.

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And so they are going for broke.

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They are trying to cause a civil emergency.

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That's why they're going after the guns in places like Virginia.

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That's why they're saying, hell, yes, we're coming for your AR-15s.

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Because if they can't beat us politically,

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they are going to try to trigger an event

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along racial and along political lines that will

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tear the country into pieces.

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Now, it is a big gamble, and it's

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making the president, if he survives it, even stronger.

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But they can't help it and have to do it

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because they're being so politically

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destroyed by the Jeffrey Epstein information coming out.

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And all the other corruption coming out.

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And there are blue cities collapsing.

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And their alliance with the Chicoms and the fentanyl

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and the chemical warfare against the American people.

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That clip is really a Alex Jones clip, if there ever was one.

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It has a ton of scary ideas, disconnected notions

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that are being brought together for no reason,

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and most importantly, references to obscure things

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that are in no way relevant.

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Alex has failed to prove in any way

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that any senator is being threatened.

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And until he does, I'm going to assume

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he's just making that up.

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The Supreme Court may actually need

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to get involved at some point.

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If you have one party that refuses

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to take things seriously, but know they're in the majority,

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so they'll be fine if they just do nothing,

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they'll get their way, what else can you do?

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I'm not sure that's the right thing to do.

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And I don't even know how that would play out.

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And I don't know if that's the direction things will go.

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But looking at things, I wouldn't

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be too surprised if there was some sort

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of a legal challenge somewhere.

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But even so, even if the Supreme Court does get involved,

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I have literally zero belief that they

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would do so in a way that would trigger

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the outbreak of civil unrest or a civil war.

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The Supreme Court literally decided the 2000 election.

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And though there were consequences

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of that, which we still have not fully atoned for,

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it did not lead to Democrats in the street rioting.

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You could make an argument that the right wing is much more

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insane right now than the Democrats were in 2000,

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and you would be correct.

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But I still think this kind of idea that Alex is selling

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is a bit of a stretch.

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Plus, it's a conservative court.

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I would assume they would err on the side of following

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a strict process which favors the GOP, which

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is part of the reason I suspect they won't even

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get involved in the first place.

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Not even close.

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At every point in Alex's career, the globalists

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have been just about to start a civil emergency.

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And it always has to do with going for the guns.

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Somehow, this just never gets old for his fans.

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It feels new and fresh every time, scary, all anew,

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all over again.

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He's getting into the coming for the guns.

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It was Beto who said, hell yes, we're coming for your guns.

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And he dropped out of the presidential race

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on November 1.

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And as best I can tell, he's completely irrelevant

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to any race in the country.

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You didn't know this, but his quote

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is still running for president.

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Oh, that's true.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Did you see the debate?

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You didn't see a big sign that just said, hell yes,

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we're coming for your AR-15s behind a podium.

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That it still beat.

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Compelling argument.

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Still beat.

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Andrew Yang?

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Yeah.

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Like, Beto's not in any office, nor does

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he seem to be a major force in the larger left wing

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conversation.

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It's not like he dropped out, but he's guiding

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the conversation that people are having.

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As for Virginia, like, the Democrats

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won control of the state legislature

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in most of the recent election.

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This is what he's talking about when he said,

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we're coming for the guns.

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So when the Democrats won the control of the state

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legislature, in effect, the state turned very blue.

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There's been some talk of universal background checks

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possibly being discussed.

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But their legislative session hasn't even started yet.

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But that hasn't stopped some gun weirdo community members

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from overreacting to Democrats being in office

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by stirring up egregious levels of paranoia.

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According to The Hill, over 50 counties in Virginia

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passed resolutions declaring themselves

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Second Amendment sanctuaries, which

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is not in any way legally binding,

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and it's just a symbolic act or, as Paul Joseph Watson might

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call it, virtue signaling.

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Nothing happened except Democrats winning elections.

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And immediately, the effort to frame any kind of gun debate

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as encroachment of essential rights

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began with these counties passing

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meaningless resolutions.

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Representative A. Donald McEachen

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commented that the governor may have

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to bring in the National Guard if law enforcement

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agencies in these counties are refusing to enforce laws.

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But he wasn't saying the governor should do that.

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It was just a comment about how that is a possible outcome

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if there are law enforcement agencies that are, in essence,

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going rogue.

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He said, quote, that's his call, because I

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don't know how serious these counties are

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and how severe the violations of law will be.

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But that's obviously an option he has.

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And according to the Constitution,

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that is an option the governor has.

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Yes, it is.

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And Alex knows that, because he talks

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about it all the goddamn time.

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This entire Virginia story is not about actual efforts

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to come for anyone's guns.

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Although there may be gun laws that

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are discussed in the next legislative session,

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it is entirely possible.

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But I would assume even with a Democratic majority,

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some of that is still going to die in committee.

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Absolutely.

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Still won't pass.

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Yeah, because Republicans are fucking insane.

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Whatever the case, this is the story

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of a severe preemptive overreaction by gun weirdos

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to Democrats winning elections.

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It makes more sense for Alex to frame it differently, though.

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Now, these people, they have to do this,

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because all their shit's coming down.

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They're in so much trouble.

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What Jeffrey Epstein information coming out

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is destroying Democrats, exactly?

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Nothing.

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Is it the bunk story about the non-missing missing footage

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that he was talking about earlier?

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Which blue cities are collapsing?

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That one actually took down Terry McAuliffe,

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the non-story about the, yeah, he's gone now.

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Did you know that?

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All right.

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All right.

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So which blue cities are collapsing, Jordan?

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And how would triggering a race war help with that?

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What's the goal here?

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Let's see.

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Nothing Alex is saying makes sense.

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It's all just a pastiche of his normal talking points

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and imagery, but he's trying to build it up to a fever pitch.

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It has the vibe of, I know you've

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heard me say all these things before,

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but this time it's for real.

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It has the same vibe as all the other shit.

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It's the same thing as how he started the show.

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I've said this is the most important thing ever before,

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but this time it really is.

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And listening to his voice, I don't even

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believe he believes that.

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It is unfortunate that Obama didn't do any of the things

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that they said he was going to, because now they're just always

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going to assume that any Democrat,

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like the Fox News and everybody spent eight years saying

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that Obama was a dictator who is going

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to come and take your guns.

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And then when he didn't, they didn't just deflate and think

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that, oh, well, now that we have different Democrats,

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they're going to not take our guns.

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Now it's just on red alert, 100% all the time,

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any Democrat is going to take your guns.

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That's it all day, every day.

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They can't walk back from the fact

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that we elected a centrist black president

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and it drove them all insane.

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Yep, I was that way.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets around to these comments

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by Ruth Bader Ginsburg, which prove

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that the Supreme Court's going to decide this impeachment

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or something.

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I need you to prove that to me.

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Alex certainly doesn't.

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Now, here's the big enchilada.

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and we'll play the clip coming up next

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segment, says senators can be disqualified

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from upcoming impeachment trial if they are not impartial.

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Now, she doesn't have that power.

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This whole thing is political.

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So that's not really what she said.

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I assume that's exactly what she said word for word,

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along with what she was quoting Cicero, I believe.

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Totally.

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So Ruth Bader Ginsburg was being interviewed

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while she was being awarded the Berggruen Prize

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for Philosophy and Culture.

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In the interview, it came up that Trump was being impeached

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and that some GOP senators had literally

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said that they weren't going to be impartial.

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She was asked, quote, so if a senator says,

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I've already made up my mind and the trial

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doesn't exist at the moment, there's no accountability,

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is there?

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And her response was, quote, if a judge said that,

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a judge would be disqualified from the case.

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The day a judge stops being impartial

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and starts to do things to please the home crowd,

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that's the day the judge should step down from office.

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The implication is that a trial should be presided over

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by impartial judges and that the impeachment trial in the Senate

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involves the senators being essentially judges in the case.

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So you could read that as her saying that senators

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who indicate they've made up their mind pre-trial

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should be disqualified.

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But the important thing to remember

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is that she didn't say that.

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She implied that.

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And she did so by pointing to an example of a similar situation

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that we all agree with.

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If a judge in a different context

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was going around being all like, no matter what,

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I'm going to acquit this guy, you

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would easily recognize that as a problem.

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But the claim Alex is making that RBG

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said that senators could be disqualified

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from the impeachment if they aren't impartial,

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that's a problem.

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That claim is a problem because it's not true.

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That's not even the case that that's what she was implying.

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It's very, the game he's playing is very, very clear.

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It never fails to amaze me how much the right wing thinks

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shouldn't be in the Constitution isn't

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and how much they think should be in the Constitution is.

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Because in the Constitution, there's

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nothing that says you have to be an impartial juror if you're

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in a Senate impeachment trial, which arguably, maybe there

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should have been.

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But when they were writing it, they just

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assumed that nobody would act like this.

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These guys were so stupid.

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The founding fathers were idiots.

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Also, Alex's idea here is really funny

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because Trump tweeted, quote, radical left has no case.

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Read the transcripts.

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Shouldn't even be allowed.

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Can we go to the Supreme Court to stop?

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So Alex's nightmare scenario where the Supreme Court

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gets involved is literally what Trump is asking to happen.

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I expected Alex to be all out of sorts

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about the reality of this impeachment set again,

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but I really didn't think he'd be this low energy

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and disoriented.

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His narrative makes no sense.

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He's selling it poorly.

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I think he's just beginning to realize

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that no matter what, his name is attached

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to this for history and posterity.

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And I don't think he thinks that's

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a great way to be remembered.

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I would be bummed out if I were him too.

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I can't read any.

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I don't read any Trump tweets.

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I don't read anything that talks about Trump tweets

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because it feels like he's sending a telegram

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and he's paying by the letter.

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Stop.

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This isn't fair.

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Stop.

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We're going to, like, fuck you.

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How is that OK?

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How is that not an impeachable offense?

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So Alex, one of his big things is that, like,

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he's already said it.

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You've heard it.

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He said that all these dumbed down people

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think that this is a conviction.

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And Pelosi is not bringing the indictment to the Senate,

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not immediately doing that.

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Because it will technically be a kangaroo court,

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and it won't act.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no, no.

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Yeah.

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It's because she wants it to appear like it's

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a conviction in and of itself.

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That makes sense.

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And so they're now having Pelosi say

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that she's going to withhold sending the articles up,

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certifying them, so they can just have that out there that,

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oh, look, Trump is impeached as if that's

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a conviction in a way that he is discredited,

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waiting while they prepare to roll out women

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saying the president raped them, people saying

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the president used the n-word, people claiming the president

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has corruption in his tax returns,

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and all sorts of other things.

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I don't know what accusations Alex thinks

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are coming that is somehow going to catch fire and actually hurt

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Trump with his base, but I think he shouldn't hold his breath.

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I mean, we've all seen people accuse Trump of sexual assault,

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being a racist, and being corrupt in his business

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dealings, and none of his supporters

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seem to care up till this point.

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So I don't understand what Alex is preparing for.

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And in almost all of those incidents,

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he himself has backed up those accusations

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by saying that he did it.

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It does seem that way in a lot of the cases.

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He's lying and corrupt on his taxes.

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Oh, do you mean like he said he was in a debate?

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Oh, he's committed sexual assault?

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Oh, you mean like he said he did?

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Yeah.

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It's like, if anybody doesn't think

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he said the n-word, you're crazy.

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Yeah, no.

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You're beyond the pale.

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Yeah, even his supporters are like, well, of course

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he said the n-word.

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Yeah, I just, all I think is that what Alex is doing

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is trying to find a way to reframe the idea

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that the House has said that they're

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going to hold more hearings.

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Yeah.

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And that's just what he's doing.

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He's preparing his audience for whatever information

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could come out of those.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I mean, fine, whatever.

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This has been the big breakdown section, the segment.

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It gets to the end of the segment, and so far,

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I mean, I think we've got, he's misrepresenting a quote

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from Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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Sure.

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He's saying that people are being threatened.

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Naturally.

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They're trying to impeach Trump just

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because they don't want another Supreme Court nomination.

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That sure makes sense.

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I don't really think that we've got much of anything here,

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but this is how the segment ends.

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And we're going to go through how they then

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intend to remove the president and their real plan, which

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they're now executing.

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And the only exposure of it can stop them.

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Please stay with us, I'm Alex Jones, newswars.com.

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So we haven't gotten to the plan.

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We're going to get to the plan next.

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This is all still just preamble to the plan.

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That's why it felt so meaningless,

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because it wasn't the plan.

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This show is ridiculous.

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That's bananas.

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Because I thought that was the plan.

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That's the only plan.

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Yeah.

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That is, oh, that's fun.

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Whenever Democrats actually do what he says they're going

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to do, he's like, and the plan, if we reveal the plan,

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it's going to stop them.

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And it's like, no, it won't.

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They've told you the plan.

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The plan is to impeach and remove

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the president using this.

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You can't make up a, if we expose the plan,

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it's going to stop them thing for this.

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They've exposed the plan.

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The strategy of, if we reveal the plan, it will stop them,

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it works really well when your plans are nuts.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Because you just say something that's completely outlandish,

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and they're like, well, we exposed the plan

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so they couldn't do that.

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Like, yeah, they weren't going to do that.

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Right.

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That wouldn't make sense.

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Yeah.

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So we don't know what the plan is yet.

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And so he comes back from break and expresses

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that his show is truth.

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I am your host, Alex Jones.

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And InfoWar's very existence is an act of rebellion

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against the global tyrants.

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Your support is war.

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This is information warfare.

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This is truth.

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Head on, committed to fight lies.

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This is life and death.

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That's not melodrama.

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As the saxophone crescendos, that's not melodrama.

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That's where we are.

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These people will take everything from us.

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We don't start standing up for ourselves.

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All right, let me lay it out.

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So this is the two reasons for that, three reasons

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for playing that clip.

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First, you belong to the city as a fucking banger.

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Second reason, Alex literally says, this is truth, which.

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Well, that's his opinion.

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His feeling is that this is truth.

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Great.

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So I mean, that is the blurring of the presentation.

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And then third, that's the only circumstance in this episode

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where Alex really feels inspired,

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is when he's doing these voiceovers

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over swelling sax music.

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Yeah, I mean, how can you not?

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The only time that you see life in him

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is when he's doing these, if we don't stop them,

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they will take everything from us.

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Yeah.

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He just wants to do voiceovers.

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Give him Don LaFontaine's, he's dead, take over.

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He just wants to do overly dramatic threats

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over symphonic music.

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He wants to do the fun stuff.

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Yeah, you can't do that for four hours.

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No, he wants to do what he was doing in the past.

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Singing along with the highway men and shit like that.

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That's the only time you see the spark of like,

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this is a person, otherwise it's just these staccato,

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this is their plan, they want to divide.

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Pearl Harbor was fake.

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See, I kind of think he would wind up

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getting more listeners and viewers

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if he did go back to that singing along with shit.

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I think people would tune in way more

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just because they're like,

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this guy used to be fucking crazy

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and now look at how crazy he is.

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But this is crazy in an entertaining and genuine way.

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The problem with Alex right now

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is that he could be super, super popular

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if he would just drop a lot of this bullshit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like he would legitimately be somebody

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that people would tune in and want to watch.

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Yeah.

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And he could do it, I think.

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But the problem is, how do you get from A to B?

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That is tough, that is tough.

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If B is probably marketable in this climate.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But you'd have to figure out how to shed yourself

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of, as you described it, all of these necklaces.

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Yeah.

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These rock necklaces that he's designed for himself.

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How many welders can I put on one string?

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Yeah, it's tough.

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But if he could figure out a way to do that,

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I think he could probably find a way

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to have the fun that he's having over this saxophone.

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Not the not fun parts where he has to try

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and come up with absurd reasons

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for why his hero is getting impeached.

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Here's how I would do it.

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Here's what I would do.

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I would turn it into like the movie Airheads

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where it's like, we're going under a station restructuring

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so I wanna keep doing the info war

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but instead I'm just gonna sing over the highway men now.

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It's not me, it's my managers up at the top.

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Oh, that'd be great.

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It's just a station restructuring.

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Nothing I can do.

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Everybody, I sold out to Sinclair.

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Yeah.

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They just want me to sing.

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If I were Sinclair, I think that would be the way

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I would go.

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I think that would be amazing.

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What have you just tuned in to our podcast one day?

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Like guys, craziest thing.

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This is amazing.

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I don't know if we're gonna keep going or not

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but we're doing this episode for sure.

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No, no, we are keeping going.

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I'm gonna just critique his karaoke from now on.

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The dream job.

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So we thought we'd gotten to the plan, apparently not.

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Gotta lay it out now though.

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Saxophone, take a break.

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Take a break.

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A good swelling sax is a short circuit

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into anybody's brain as far as inspiration goes.

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Totally.

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And now Alex is inspired to lay it all out.

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All right.

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All right, let me lay it out.

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There's different scenarios, really four different ones.

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Two that they'd really like.

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So there's four scenarios.

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All right.

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Two the globalists would really like.

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What are they doing with the other two?

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Here's, they're just like, have we gotta do it?

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Have we gotta do it?

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Lesser of two.

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Here's the first one.

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But here's the first option.

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They create enough blackmail, enough hysteria,

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enough problems, enough pressure on the senators,

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enough division with all the other stories

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they're gonna bring up while they're holding

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the articles from the Senate.

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Another lawfare tactic and then the senators start buckling

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and they vote to remove him.

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They say for the better of the country,

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this has just gone on too long.

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There's too many bad things that have come out.

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And now this latest thing,

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even though it's not in the trial,

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I just have to go against the president.

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That's what they really want, what they're hoping for.

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That's the Hail Mary.

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This is a stupid theory and it's based on nothing.

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Wow.

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Alex has nothing to support this narrative

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other than his own fantasies about what goes on

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in serious places in the world

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he would never be welcoming.

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Oh yeah.

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But this is really useful as a narrative.

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You need to provide some reason for your listeners

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not to completely turn on the GOP

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and the off chance that some senators

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do end up voting to convict.

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Alex remembers the Ron Paul days

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and how impossible it would be for him

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to ever be anywhere near power

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if he went with a third party or tried to create a party.

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It's just, you know, he knows that it's imperative

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to keep things under the GOP wing

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and try to continue to corrupt it from the inside.

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The other path is too hard

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and insisting that if any GOP senators vote to convict,

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it's only because the globalists were hitting them

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with hard, with tons of blackmail,

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he kinda softened the backlash

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against the party a little bit.

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It's not their fault.

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Right.

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It's not their fault.

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The globalists were strong,

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but they're not strong enough.

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They weren't gonna kill their children.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, and also this is never going to happen.

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What would you do in that scenario, huh?

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This plan is never going to happen.

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No.

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So just toss out that one.

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Was that the most,

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that was the one that they wanted to happen most?

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That's implied, yeah.

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Okay, all right.

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So here's the second option.

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The other one is that part of the Supreme Court

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says it's political, it's illegitimate,

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the Senate's running it wrong,

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even though it's all been a kangaroo event so far

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and that triggers civil unrest and anger

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and they are blackmailing members of Trump's cabinet

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and the Senate and then they create a 25th amendment

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to the United States event, XXV

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to the United States Constitution says

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that if the president becomes unable to do their job,

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the vice president becomes the president,

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which can happen for just a little while.

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The president is just sick or disabled for a short time.

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It can also happen until the end of the president's term.

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And they can say that he was mentally incapacitated.

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So that's the second thing they want.

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So buddy, if the 25th amendment hasn't been invoked yet,

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it's never going to be invoked.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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Trump just told a rally full of people

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that a political rival's recently dead husband

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might be in hell and nothing happened,

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so don't worry about the 25th.

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No, it's because he makes too much sense, Dan.

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Honestly, this option is really convoluted.

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If I understand it correctly,

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Alex is saying that a part of the Supreme Court

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will say that the impeachment

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is being handled inappropriately.

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This will somehow set off civil unrest,

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at which point the senators and people in the cabinet

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who are being blackmailed in this scenario as well,

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that's consistent, they'll invoke the 25th amendment

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to get Trump out of office.

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Now Jordan, I would posit that none of this is necessary.

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First of all, as I mentioned earlier,

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Trump tweeted that he wanted the Supreme Court involved.

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So that kind of fucks up Alex's narrative a little bit.

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Secondly, everything up to the point

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of the senators being blackmailed is completely superfluous.

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If the end goal is getting senators

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and people in the cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment,

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all of that can be achieved through the blackmail.

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You don't need the Supreme Court to get in the mix,

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which then kicks off the civil unrest,

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which then supplements the blackmail or something.

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It's an overly complicated, overwritten narrative

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that makes no sense from the standpoint

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of the imaginary conspirators.

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Wrong, the blackmail is hidden by the social unrest.

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That way, the senators don't have to say

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they're being blackmailed,

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they're being influenced by their voters, Dan.

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Hey Jordan. Retract your statement now.

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Hey Jordan, no one ever says I'm being blackmailed,

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that's why I'm doing this.

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I suspect that this is just a way for Alex

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to prepare to de-legitimize any left-wing protests

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that might happen surrounding the impeachment process.

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Just try and put it as they're playing

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into the globalist hands or something.

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Also, this is never going to happen either.

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Second option, off the table, not realistic in any way.

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I do love the situation we're in being so insanely simple

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and yet spiraling into the most complicated version

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of reality we can.

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Here's how this should work, because it's fairly simple.

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The House impeaches the President,

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the Senate acts as impartial jurors,

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the evidence is presented,

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since there's no exculpatory evidence whatsoever

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that anybody has brought forth.

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Well, there's tons of witnesses,

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they're just not being allowed to call them.

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So let's call them.

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No, no, let's call them, let's do the whole thing.

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He will be removed from office,

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it's a very straightforward issue.

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But because people don't want that to happen,

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we have 10 million different games,

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the articles of impeachment can't be sent yet

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because Mitch McConnell's too corrupt to burrow,

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so we need to drum up public opinion

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to put pressure on him, and it's like, this is so simple.

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The game that's being played by Alex is a lot crazier.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's a lot more interesting.

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So we got those first two options, bad.

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Yes.

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Not gonna happen.

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Not gonna happen.

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Talking shit.

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And those are the two they most prefer.

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That's implied, he doesn't specify it.

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But you would think if they're the two

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that the globalists want, yeah, you would think.

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So here's the third option.

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See if you can see similarities.

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Third thing is,

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shibble unrest, violence, breakdown, kills the economy,

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and that causes enough of a crisis

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for them to win the election

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and or get Trump to step down.

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This is very dumb.

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Trump thrives on civil unrest,

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and no amount of it is gonna cause him

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to step down from office.

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This is a dude who leaned in to the Unite the Right rally

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where neo-Nazis chanted, blood and soil,

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and a woman was killed.

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It's not like he's a guy who would say,

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hey, people are hurting, and for the good of the country,

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I've gotta step down.

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That point will never happen.

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I think this is just a preemptive rationalization

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for the possible loss that will come in the 2020 election.

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Sure, we coulda won, but there was that civil unrest

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that destroyed the stock market,

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so technically we kinda did actually win

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since the globalists caused it all.

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It's a good way to plant seeds.

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Reframe it so no matter what I didn't lose,

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even if I lost, it's only because you cheated.

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This option means nothing.

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Also, this is the last scenario.

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In the intro to this.

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It's four!

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He did.

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There were only threes in areas?

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Only three.

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Alex forgot that there was four.

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Oh, man.

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There's just three.

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Two are complete bullshit.

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Total nonsense.

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And the third is meaningless, so he's not even trying.

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This guy is so over it.

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Yeah, the third option is just, like,

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they find a way to win the election.

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Yeah.

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That's the entire thing.

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I mean, he's saying that they're using

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a bunch of different steps, but it could be,

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the point in option number three

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is they win the election.

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Right.

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So they could win it in any number of different ways.

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Sure, but they're gonna do it by civil unrest

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that plunges the stock market.

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I mean, okay.

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Right.

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I guess.

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Right.

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Or they could do it differently.

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There are a lot of different ways to win an election.

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Yeah, essentially that third option

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does just come down to we lose.

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Yeah, exactly.

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We lose the election.

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But he's really focused on this civil unrest stuff,

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and he knows that the globalists plan this,

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and he can prove it to you,

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and this is not his feelings, this is fact.

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How much civil unrest could they get?

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I mean, just type in to the search engine.

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InfoWars.com, and then Obama documents show

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Obama planned martial law in Maryland 2015.

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We got those in January 2018.

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Confirmed 30 pages of Antifa secret documents

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funded by Alexander Soros, how they would go in

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and break things, working with the police in blue cities.

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The police commanders to try to trigger blacks to riot.

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It didn't work.

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But yeah, put that back on screen.

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So I mean, this is just the 4chan Soros Antifa documents

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that Alex found online that he's presenting

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as like, this is proof, man.

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It's been confirmed.

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No, it hasn't.

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Found that online.

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So in this next clip, it's really interesting

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because Alex tells how he got those documents,

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and it's not true.

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That article is more important today

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than it was in January of 2018.

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Please go read this.

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I did.

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The man's family found it and got it to us.

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And we got threatened, we got told,

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you stop that or you're gonna get lawsuits.

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And man, a week later, they all started getting filed.

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I mean, they are so pissed that we got those.

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It's smoking gun of criminal terrorist racketeering

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by Alexander Soros, who is the head funder of that group,

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nationwide.

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So that was the story that was on 4chan.

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Yeah, I remember that one.

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That was the guy's brother found these documents.

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Yep, I remember that one.

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That is not how Alex got them.

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I watched that episode.

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I remember this very clearly.

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Alex's intern, Harrison Smith, came on air,

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said he found them on 4chan.

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Yep.

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This is bullshit.

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Yep.

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But now, Alex has turned the story

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that was posted on 4chan.

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They heroically got in touch with Info Wars specifically.

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He's turned it into his own story

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of finding these documents.

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This is-

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That should be against the law.

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But you know what?

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I bet Alex thinks that is what happened.

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Oh no, I agree.

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I totally believe it.

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I bet that's how he remembers it now

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because of like, he's mythologized it so much

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in the retelling of the story over and over and over again,

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that it feels real to him that this guy's brother

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was like, oh, we gotta get these to Alex.

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He'll get the truth out.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Instead of just his intern was lurking on 4chan

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and found these fake documents

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that they decided to pass off as real.

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It's like a fish tale,

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but with fucking potentially world-changing information,

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if any of it should be real.

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He's like, ah, the fish is this big.

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Yeah.

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Like, oh, jeez.

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But see, that's the thing, man.

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These documents, contracts between Antifa and Soros.

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Yep.

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That's why you gotta worry about Soros, right?

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Because of contract law.

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Soros does some bad stuff.

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With contracts.

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I mean, he does leave a paper trail of his bad stuff.

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Like any smart-

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It makes it easier for an info warrior to-

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Like any smart criminal.

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Yeah, certainly.

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So because Soros is so bad,

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it makes other people who appear bad,

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actually they're not that bad.

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This is an attack to take our country down.

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I mean, they demonized Putin

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because he just has all the Soros heads

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who aren't Russian bringing billions in a year

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to overthrow the Russian government and the people.

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He just has them thrown out of the country.

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And Russians that work with them get arrested.

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That's not authoritarianism.

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If you're a Russian in Russia,

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you can protest all you want.

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I've studied it.

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But if you're funded by Soros

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and you're trying to teach five-year-olds how to suck cock,

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you get your ass arrested.

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Excuse my French, but that's what's going on, folks.

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Is it a family show?

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Daddy.

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Is it a family show?

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I love listening to info's Warren Smith, your daddy.

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Soros is trying to teach Russian kids how to suck cock.

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I don't think that's it.

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What?

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I'm gonna take that clip to show and tell with me.

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I'm gonna leave that just sort of sitting out there.

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Russians have absolute ability to demonstrate freely,

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to organize all that.

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It's all just Soros.

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Sure.

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Soros is instigating against the Russian government.

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That's amazing.

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That is the most fascist argument you can possibly make.

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No, no, no, everybody has the right to protest

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except for these people,

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whomever they may be based on a fictional thing

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that I create and change at my whims.

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Right, I mean, if Alex is tying the entirety

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of anti-fascism to Soros through these fake documents,

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you gotta imagine that anybody would be able

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to falsely connect any protest to Soros

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if that's the game Alex wants to play.

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Everybody has the right to free and fair protest

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except for people who are against fascism, Dan.

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That sure seems to be his point.

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Sure.

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So Alex is pretty mad about people inciting violence.

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Sure.

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I suppose.

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And he gets around to saying that within a very short clip,

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Alex takes issue with people inciting violence

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and then by the end of it is saying

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that Trump should get the military involved.

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So this clip takes a little bit of a ride.

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Okay.

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If I was running around trying to get people

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to go kill people or burn things,

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I'd get arrested for a conspiracy

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to commit mayhem and crime and disorder.

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And I'd spend life in prison and I should.

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I'd never do that.

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These people are committing crimes,

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breaking our borders, funding the refugee centers,

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assaulting us.

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And so enough talk.

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I want the president to do his job

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and I want him to put them on notice

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that he knows they're trying to create a civil war

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and all the rest of it.

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And if they don't hold the process correctly

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in the Senate and the rest of it,

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the executive branch and the American people

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are gonna have to step in and it means war.

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No more games.

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That's pretty extreme.

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Oh boy.

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Yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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All right.

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But that's pretty standard for Alex.

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That's pretty par for the course of where he's at

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these days.

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But you see, he did this like this is the most important

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show I'm ever gonna do.

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I'm gonna lay out the globalist plan.

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There's four scenarios, there's only three.

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There's only three.

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It's just an incompetent display of dumbassery.

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And then we now see he started to talk about Soros

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and these contracts and all this civil unrest.

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If he's starting to work himself up

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and now he's starting to get angry

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and the violence is coming to the surface.

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And you can start to feel it bubble

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throughout the rest of this show.

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I don't want my man to cross the Rubicon.

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I want him to drain the Rubicon entirely.

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And kill it.

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And kill it.

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Kill that river.

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So I've been working on a theory for a little while

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and that is that Alex doesn't know Bolsonaro's name.

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Okay.

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Or at least has completely forgotten it.

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Okay, okay.

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And he said Bolsonaro before.

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Way back.

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Yes, way back.

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He just refers to him as the guy in Brazil.

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Brazil's trumpet.

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Brazil's trumpet.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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In this clip, I think we get more evidence

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that maybe he's trying to learn his name.

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Okay.

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This is scaring the hell out of the globalists

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that we're this close to taking this country down.

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And they said in the CFR,

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they said in the Financial Times of London,

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the Atlantic Monthly,

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all the globalist mouthpieces, their organs,

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that if Hillary loses, it's a death blow to globalism.

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And then if we can't get rid of Trump,

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it's a death blow to globalism.

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And if Bolsonaro gets elected, it's a death blow.

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And oh my gosh, and the Brexit.

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And they're failing everywhere.

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But they're striking back.

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I appreciate that he tried.

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So the impeachment is happening.

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It's gonna go to the Senate.

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And Alex has a lot of feelings about this being done

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by the letter of the Constitution.

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Yes.

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Which it is being done.

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Well, but it's important for somebody

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who's making such an argument

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to really know what the Constitution entails.

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I disagree.

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Particularly in these sorts of situations.

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You gotta know how the impeachment is supposed to be run.

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This clip does not inspire confidence in me

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that Alex knows anything about what he's talking about.

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Here is Ginsburg suggesting senators can be disqualified

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from upcoming impeachment by who?

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Whom?

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The branches are co-equal,

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so one doesn't take over the other

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and they keep each other in check.

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Okay.

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So the Supreme Court

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can only supposedly get involved in an impeachment

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if there's a tie.

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What?

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You gotta have the two thirds, the super majority.

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The vice president can break that.

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But then what if that was a tie?

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Well, the Supreme Court.

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That's crazy.

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What if the two thirds is a tie?

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So it was two thirds against one third

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and they were somehow tied at the end of it.

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There cannot be a tie in the Senate

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when two thirds majority is required to pass something.

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I disagree.

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One of the ways this is super advantageous

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is because you would never want a tie in the Senate vote,

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since the vice president is also the president of the Senate

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and gets to cast votes in tie-breaking situations.

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Part of the reason that you'd never want that to come up

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is because the vice president becomes president

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if the president's removed,

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so you really, really don't wanna have to deal

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with the optics of casting a tie-breaking vote

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that makes you the president.

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But it doesn't matter, because in tie-breaking situations,

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in impeachment trials in the Senate,

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they're presided over by the Chief Justice

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of the Supreme Court.

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The tie-breaking vote would go to the Chief Justice.

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But there's no, it's not a tie, it's not possible.

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The circumstances are possible,

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except not with the conviction vote.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There are votes about like rule changes

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that happen throughout the trial.

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And in those situations, all you need is a simple majority.

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And in those cases, the Chief Justice

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presiding over the trial would be the tie-breaking vote.

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Either way, the vice president

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doesn't come into play in this at all.

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It's crazy, like he really doesn't know

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what he's talking about.

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The fact that he thinks that the vice president

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would cast a tie-breaking vote,

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or if there's still a tie, the Supreme Court gets involved,

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he realizes in the middle that it's a two-thirds situation.

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Wow!

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And that makes even less sense historically,

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just because the vice president and president

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weren't originally on a ticket together.

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It was whoever got the first and second most votes.

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So in that situation, if the vice president

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is the guy who got the second most votes and was like,

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hey, somehow this one vote I'm gonna test

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makes me president, this is non-partisan, guys.

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I am not corrupt at all.

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Yep. Yeah.

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So that inspires very little confidence.

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Whenever Alex goes on these rants

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about how they're not going according to the Constitution,

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and he says stuff like that,

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I just gotta think like, all right,

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you're not a good source for this sort of information.

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I'm gonna go ahead and check out.

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The people most likely to carry a constitution

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in their pocket are somehow also the people

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least likely to have read it.

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It's kind of amazing.

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So anyway, the globalists are desperate

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because they're breaking the Constitution,

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doing all this impeachment stuff.

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And that means they're about to false flag some stuff.

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And I want listeners to understand something.

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And I think you know this better than I.

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This is real.

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The globalists want civil unrest.

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They want a war.

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They're probably looking to bomb federal buildings

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and blame it on talk radio like they did in 95,

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which they saw as the voice of the people.

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It'll be the internet this time.

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And so if there's gonna be mass shootings or bombings

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or other false flags to create racial and cultural division,

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we're entering the zone right now.

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Everybody's gotta be alert.

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It's gotta be watchful, including law enforcement

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because this country's fighting for its life.

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This is very serious.

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The next 300 plus days are maximum alert, maximum alert.

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This country is at war.

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All I hear is Alex being aware that the communities

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that he inspires and is connected with

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are in such a mode that bombing a building is possible.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like all I hear is that like, okay,

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we are in a situation where extreme element

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of our side could very easily, like some unstable person,

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you could very easily see some tragedy happening.

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Oh, yeah.

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And all this is to me is preemptive narrative building.

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I was listening to that just going like,

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man, the number of emails and tweets

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and all this shit that he's aware of

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all from his people pointing to like-

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Well, he doesn't read those emails.

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No, no, no, but like all of this stuff

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has created an atmosphere where he's like,

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I know that somebody who listens to my show

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may very well do this,

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and I better get in front of this real quick.

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Or at least you just know it's a possibility.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm not saying he's saying that it's going to happen

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or he knows that somebody is about to do it,

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but the climate that he's in, you can't not know.

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I think even if you're not in that climate, you're aware of it.

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That's fair, that's fair.

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There is a possibility.

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In the same way there was in 95.

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95, yeah, exactly.

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With the rising of the right wing extremism.

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So I understand that, and all I see is craft.

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All I see is the awareness that this is a possibility.

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We better be ready if that happens,

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so we'll build this narrative in advance.

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Yeah, I think poor craft that's very transparent.

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I don't think it is unless you pay attention.

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Oh, well, yeah.

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Because I think if you buy into Alex's shit,

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you probably would see that as like,

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yeah, they are going to do that.

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And you could then later be like, he called it.

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Right.

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Like I think if you're not aware.

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That's fair.

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But for people like us, yes, obviously.

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It can't be more obvious.

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So now here's where everything changes.

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Alex starts taking calls, and he gets a caller

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who asks one of the more upsetting questions

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that I've ever heard.

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How do you shave your privates?

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That's not it.

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The question is along the lines of,

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when is the time to start shooting people?

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And follow up, who should I point my gun at?

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Oh.

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Now, I'm going to play this clip in its entirety.

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It's a little bit longer, but I think

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it's important to see how Alex responds to this question.

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So here's my question.

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Now, this is a hypothetical situation.

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Let's hypothetically say that at some point in the next six

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months to a year, the Democrats get their way

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through illegal means, and this thing

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happens to go kinetic, which obviously none of us

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want to happen.

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I've been trying to get through to like Matt Brackett

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and some of these other guys.

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For people like me, if this thing goes hot,

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who do we point our guns at?

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I mean, I have neighbors that are

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Democrats that are good people.

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I know some pretty crazy liberals that

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do some pretty crazy things.

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But we've got a cabal of representatives and people

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that call themselves Democrats that aren't.

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I mean, the average individual is not

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in a position to react to this.

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So I'm really going to know.

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I'm not saying I don't want offensive violence.

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And if the globalists get rid of Trump,

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they're going to plunge the economy

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and try to hold people hostage to legislatively

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accept open borders and globalism

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and political correctness as a price

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to turn the economy back on like they did when Obama got in.

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They turned the economy off to bring Obama in.

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They turned the economy partially back on

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once he got in.

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So obviously, the police aren't it.

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Average stupid libtard isn't it.

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You remember when they sent the guy to try to kill

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the Republican baseball team, the Republican caucus,

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to kill Rand Paul and Scalise and others.

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They tried.

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That guy knew what he was doing.

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He didn't know how to fire the gun right.

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But he went and found the leadership.

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So what you have there.

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What the fuck did he just say?

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Right.

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Because all that stuff, the immediate answer

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to the question is buffer.

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That's just fill in time.

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The actual answer to the question

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begins when he says the cops aren't it.

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Cops aren't it.

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Your average libtard isn't it.

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The guy who went and shot at Steve Scalise

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had the right idea.

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Which wasn't a false flag,

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because it was the other team who did that.

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Well, it was a false flag,

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because the globalists did it.

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Yeah, oh yeah, fair, fair.

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Whatever the case, Alex is expressing to this caller

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democratic leadership is where go get them.

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That was-

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When things get hot.

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That was a guy asking-

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Permission.

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Hypothetically, in the same way that some dude would be like-

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Asking for a friend.

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Hey, hypothetically, if I asked you out on a date,

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how should I do it?

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Because if the answer is yes,

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you're like, haha, I'm actually doing it.

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If the answer is no,

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you're barely hiding behind hypothetically.

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Right, asking for a friend.

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Yeah, that's fucked up.

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That's an irresponsible fucking answer.

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That is fucked up.

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But Alex, he equivocates a little bit.

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He's like, I'm not saying you should hunt down democrats.

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Because I think he realizes we've gotten

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into dicey water here.

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So I don't think anybody should go

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target democrats like that.

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But if it goes into civil war and they're confiscating guns

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and tracking down patriot leaders and stuff,

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then these are foreign combatants.

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These are foreign generals.

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And it's just like any war.

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That's the high value targets.

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I'm not saying go after those people.

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We're not in that wheelhouse.

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But everything that you described as being

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characteristics of being in that wheelhouse

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are the features of your rhetoric.

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Saying going after patriot leaders, hunting them down.

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All you talk about is how these lawsuits against you

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are the government and the globalists

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trying to take you down.

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You are the leader of the patriots at your conception.

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So that qualification has been filled.

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They're going after the guns.

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Every single day there's stories

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about how they're going after the guns.

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All of the qualifications for the situation

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wherein you might hunt down the democratic leadership

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is satisfied if you listen to his show.

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He's giving this fucking answer that is so discordant,

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that is so out of line,

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like you can't know what he's saying

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because he's dancing, he's dancing around.

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You don't know what the answer is,

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but the answer is irresponsible.

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I think the answer in his heart is

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it's bad for business if you start shooting people,

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but it's good for business if I tell you

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to shoot people and you don't.

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It's good for business if I make sure

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to not tell you to do this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And if you do it, it'll be a false flag.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.

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Do what you need to do.

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Hey, hey, hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.

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This is really bad.

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But he wants you to know not to be violent offensively,

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but then he also later talks about

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how a good defense is a good offense,

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so it's a little bit murky.

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But don't be violent.

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There's another solution.

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If there's big riots in the street,

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people will go to capitals and fight each other there.

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That's all idiotic.

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Nobody wants to do that.

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Take care of your children.

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Get the word out.

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It's all information warfare at this point.

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To counter whatever narrative's going on

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if they kill Trump, if they remove Trump,

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then it's go confront politicians.

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It's get on national TV.

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It's what this guy just did on infowars.com.

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It's happening every day now.

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It's a chain reaction.

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Must watch Infowarrior, make citizens arrest on Adam Schiff.

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I mean, I've got stacks of stuff

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just as incredible as this.

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So the answer is make me viral content.

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Yep, yep.

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That's not good.

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Hey, look, I know you're asking me

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who I should shoot at if the trouble happens,

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and I'm telling you, make me a video.

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Yeah.

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What?

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Wait, actually, there are high-value targets,

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and the guy who shot at Steve Scalise had the right idea.

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Right.

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Make me a video.

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Right, right.

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That is a quick-

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Why don't we first try to get me promotional,

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like, stuff I can monetize.

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Give me some videos.

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This is bananas, man.

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This is bananas that anybody would act like this.

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It makes sense, like, in the olden times

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when everybody was fucking stupid and starving all the time,

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but we're now, you know?

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Yeah, it's-

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This is now.

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This is not how you should be interacting with a caller

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who asks you, who do I point my gun at?

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Yeah, please do not cosplay steampunk civil war

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on a fucking radio show.

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If someone calls in and asks who I should point my gun at,

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you should either talk them down or-

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Don't.

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Get off the air.

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Who should I point my gun at?

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Get them off the air.

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No one.

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The ground.

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Instead-

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Maybe a deer.

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Instead, Alex keeps talking to him,

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and the caller reframes the question to ask,

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where's the line?

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I guess what I'm really getting at is,

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you know, there are other forces, you know,

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military of sorts that, you know,

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as individual citizens, we expect to step up

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and do the right thing at some point.

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And I guess the real question I'm asking is,

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what, you know, what is the,

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where is the legal line that gets crossed at what point?

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They've already crossed it.

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They won a physical war.

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They've already crossed it.

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So then you're saying-

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They think they can trigger a war,

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stage some stuff, make us all look bad,

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cast us as the bad guys,

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and then get everybody to kind of capitulate and be wimps.

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That's not gonna happen.

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It's gonna blow sky high,

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and the chai comms and others will be happy.

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Alex already knows that the prior context of this question

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is, who should I point my gun at?

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When this caller is asking, where is the line legally?

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It's already crossed.

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He's talking about the question he's already asked.

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And for Alex to emphatically and immediately interrupt

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and be like, they've already crossed the line, that is-

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Incitement.

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Well, in a certain sense,

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you could read that as him being like, it's fair game.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Alex should-

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I've already told you the smart thing to do,

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and I've already told you that the conditions for it

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have technically been met.

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He can't be this oblivious to not realize

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that this is a message that this caller

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could very easily be getting.

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This is so dangerous.

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This is really, really, really dangerous.

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Yeah.

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I think this guy is expressing,

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I think a common confusion,

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especially like a very American confusion

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about when to do revolution.

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Because if you go back and look

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at the original revolutionary war,

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all of the conditions that caused that are probably,

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you could consider far less extreme in regards to-

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Debatably.

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You know, debatably.

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So that confusion of like both lionizing

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and celebrating the revolutionary war

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as the best thing we could have done ever

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with continued nonviolence, hopefully,

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is really difficult for a lot of these,

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especially these gun weirdo guys.

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Yeah, I think it is a problem.

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You know?

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Yep, I agree.

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So the answer is really revising the past.

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Exactly.

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Like isn't it?

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Well, and even in the more recent past,

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what we should have done

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is Trump should have just locked everybody up.

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So Alex says that he should have just

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jailed his opposition and shit.

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Sure.

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Like a democratic country.

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As he goes out to break,

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he's almost giving a list of targets.

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There should have been indictments a long time ago,

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and because there weren't indictments,

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it created a vacuum for these people to run wild.

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And that's where we are right now.

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So perhaps calling,

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instead of calling your senators or representatives,

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perhaps calling the State Department

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and demand that these criminals are acted against

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is a better way to go?

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Well, I would find out who all the Soros people are,

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like Stephen Meegan, the State Department,

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and then I'd go to these little CFR events

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they have in public and get in their face

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legally and lawfully.

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They need that pressure put on them

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to tell them to back off trying to cause a civil war

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because they're gonna be held responsible.

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Soros and his little demon son,

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and all these globalists and Ford Foundation people,

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and all these professors and academics,

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all these anti-free speech un-American turds,

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all these people trying to launch a Maoist operation,

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they're the enemy if it goes Connecticut.

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If it goes Connecticut.

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He doesn't know the word Connecticut.

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Oh, man.

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So, yeah, but look, the issue here

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is that the caller has already asked,

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at the beginning of this, when it goes kinetic,

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who am I aiming my gun at?

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At the end of this, as Alex is going out to break,

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not only is he saying, Soros and Soros' son,

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everybody involved in the CFR,

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liberal professors, anti-American turds,

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these are the enemies when it goes Connecticut.

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Yep.

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This is-

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You can't read that any other way

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than to say, first of all, the line has already been crossed

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and these are the people who are the enemies

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who you have already asked me,

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who should I point my gun at?

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It makes A then B, B then C, A then C.

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It just makes kind of logical sense

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that he's telling this guy a list of people

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who are the enemies he should be pointing his gun at

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when it goes Connecticut.

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This is not okay.

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This is, like, what's happening

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is I hear this discordant, cognitive dissonance

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where it's like, he's saying what he knows

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he should be saying whenever the question is direct,

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like, who should I be trying to murder?

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And he's like, you should not be murdering people,

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make me a promotional video.

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But then whenever it's rephrased,

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he can't understand that the questions are connected.

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He thinks they're completely separate.

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So then he's like, then he gets back into-

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And legally he might be okay because of that somewhat.

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Yeah, maybe he's too stupid to be starting a riot.

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I still don't know if this is illegal.

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I think something is illegal here.

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It's just wrong.

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There's no way-

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It's just wrong.

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Yeah, there's no way that you can understand words

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the way they're meant to be understood

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and not think that he is giving people

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an idea of who they should murder.

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Right.

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The only way you can defend yourself

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is that you say he doesn't understand

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the words he's saying or how to-

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And if so, he needs to be taken off air for public safety.

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Because if he doesn't understand what he's doing

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and the messages he's disseminating,

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he is dangerous by his own inability.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It is irresponsible to allow him

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to be able to speak to this many people.

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Yeah, but there's bigger news.

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He just told us who to kill in the Civil War.

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That's really big news.

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Civil War has not gone Connecticut yet.

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Okay.

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But one war that is Connecticut-

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Vermont.

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No.

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War on Christmas.

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The war on Christmas is also heated up.

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No.

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I haven't even gotten to that.

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I didn't play the clip of Supreme Court Justice Gorsuch

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on Fox News saying Merry Christmas

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and mainline headlines like hate crime committed,

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threw down the gauntlet, rubbed it in our faces.

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Well now, college official, don't buy Christmas presents

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to fight climate change.

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These people are just sick.

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This is a complete bullshit story here.

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This is about someone who works for William and Mary

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named Calandra Waters Lake,

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who apparently said, quote,

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step back and remember that the reason for the gift

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is to show someone you care.

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So, is buying a gift the best way to do that?

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Going out and doing something with a recipient

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to spend time with them may be a better option.

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Now, if some Christian pundit were to say

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the exact same thing, making the point

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that Christmas has become too commercialized

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and that Jesus is the reason for the season,

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Alex would 100% be in favor

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of that anti-materialist message.

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Well that's because that's exactly what he believes

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and that he's a Christian, Dan.

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He would be so on board,

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but because this person was giving the same advice

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in interest of minding your carbon footprint,

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all of a sudden it's devil speak.

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This shit's so dumb that even the article on InfoWars

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had to call itself out.

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Quote, ironically, however, some of her other tips

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are actually quite useful in terms of combating

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materialism and consumerism,

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even if that wasn't exactly the intent.

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To which I say, go to bed, assholes.

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Fuck off, fuck you.

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You're not gonna make this war on Christmas shit work

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if that's the best you've got.

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No, this is, you can't have the when do we start shooting

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in the Civil War on the same episode

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as when do we start shooting in the war on Christmas.

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Like you're, these people are cartoons.

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That's cartoonish to consider that the war on Christmas,

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which has been going on since the fucking late 80s now,

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combined with the Civil War, you're like,

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well both of these are equal airtime situations.

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So also with Neil Gorsuch, people were more mad

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about him shilling a book on Fox and Friends

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and not other outlets.

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Wow, he's a Supreme Court justice.

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The people who pointed out that he said Merry Christmas

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were all doing it to make fun of how he made a point

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of saying it and the anchor said,

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oh I love how you say that.

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They were making fun of that because Fox News have made

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the we aren't allowed to say Merry Christmas thing

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into a pretty big talking point in the last few years.

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So it kind of makes it look like a wink that he's.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think they're more making fun of that,

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less actually offended that anyone said Christmas.

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Right, so he's going on Fox and Friends

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and selling his books.

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I believe it was Fox and Friends, it was on Fox News.

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Yeah.

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I can't remember the exact show,

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but I think I read it was Fox and Friends.

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That's not good.

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No.

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No.

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So Alex, he has a memory in this next clip

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and he talks about how he was at the inauguration

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and he was a hero on that day.

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I really don't remember him being a hero.

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That day was war.

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You understand me? Was it?

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You understand me?

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Which war, the Civil War, the war on Christmas

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or the war between Vermont and Connecticut?

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It was an early skirmish in the Connecticut war

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on Christmas at the inauguration.

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Okay, gotcha.

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That had gone Connecticut.

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All right.

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This story is not true.

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You know, I was just having flashbacks

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to three years and three months ago,

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three years and two months ago, January, 2017.

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And they had a big steel fence around the whole mall

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and it opened up at 8 a.m.

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and I didn't check where the VIP entrance was

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with my ticket.

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I just said, I'll just, I want to walk the mall.

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I want to go in at one of the main entrances.

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There was like 10 of them.

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So I started to get at the bottom.

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It was all blocked by Antifa, beating people up

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in front of police, including families with children

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and people bleeding.

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We have video of it.

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And so I got pissed and with my security guys,

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we ran over a mob of them and the police ran over

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and threatened to arrest us.

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And I started just screaming at them.

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I said, I said, I know you're on orders to stand down,

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but shame on you.

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You let these damn families through here.

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And that had to go through a few more entrances.

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And then finally went to the very top one

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and there was all the, Antifa wasn't there

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because they had agreements with the police

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where they could be, where the federal police were

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and where was the entrance for all the Congress people

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and everybody, oh, Antifa wasn't there.

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Just like in the documents we got two years ago

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from George Soros' operation, how they go

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to certain cities, they have agreements with police

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that they're allowed to commit the crimes in certain areas.

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It's all staged.

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And I just got so angry because it took me hours

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to get in till I went, well, let's go try the top entrance.

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Then it was all border patrol running it and ICE.

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They were all nice.

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And there was no lines that you just walk through.

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But the American people were being fed on

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by the DC police in league with the Antifa.

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That is something out of North Korea.

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These people are dangerous.

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We cannot let them get control of the country.

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So I guess the police are in cahoots.

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That story is not true at all.

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And it's even an exaggerated version of this,

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the version of that story I've heard him tell 100 times.

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And it's all just to conform with the fake

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Soros-Antifa contracts that he found.

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He's just rewritten that story

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to match his false documents.

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It's a story like that that makes me worry

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if at the end of this we both go insane

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because that is the least real thing

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that I think I've ever heard from anybody.

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And it's like, he's just gaslighting me so hard.

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I'm listening to this, using that part of my brain

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that's like, well, you should listen to human beings.

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You're a kind person.

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Do that and trust them because you would act trustworthy

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so you can assume that they would act trustworthy

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towards you.

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And it's just such a lie.

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It's just not real.

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Yeah, I mean, that's the fundamental flaw of this show

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is the idea of like, well, you should listen

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to people you disagree with.

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Yeah, no, you shouldn't.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't think I've gone insane yet.

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So I think that there's a good chance we're in the clear.

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But we'll see.

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So far, I mean, man, three years' time is.

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Alex might say a code word at some point

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and it just doot.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Who knows?

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You know, three years is hard time, I know.

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But I mean, when you're looking at a dime,

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maybe year seven is when you go crazy.

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Could be, seven year itch.

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So Alex gets back on the phone.

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So we've already had one guy who's like,

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one of the most fucked up calls I've heard

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on his show ever.

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And he was very flippant and just nonchalant

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about starting the second civil war.

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Then he gets a caller who's got a Scottish accent, right?

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And he's talking in this brogue.

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Yeah, Sean Connery.

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It's a terrible accent.

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And I'm like, this guy is doing a fake accent.

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And in the middle of it, he switches into his real voice.

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It was Mike Myers the whole time.

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He's like, you know how I sounded like I was Scottish?

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But I'm not.

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That's like the impeachment stuff.

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It sounds like things are, I was like, holy shit.

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He did a bit.

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Yeah, I did a bit.

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And he's like, yeah, I'm a comedian.

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I do impressions.

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I was on America's Got Talent.

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And Alex is like, I'm gonna give you a job.

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Of course he is.

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I wanted to play all of it

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because it's one of the more absurd things.

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Cause he's talking about his comedy credits

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and how like, yeah, man,

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these places that I was in this small town

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and they wouldn't let me perform.

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And I'm like, I'm too big for your town.

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So I went to LA.

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It was like, wow.

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And then I got hired by SNL.

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And you know, I don't want to talk about that anymore.

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I wanted to play all of it,

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but it's way too long.

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And just playing a tiny piece of it

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wouldn't do it justice.

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Suffice it to say a guy does a fake Scottish accent,

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says he's a comedian and then Alex offers him a job.

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Okay.

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That's great.

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That sounds like exactly how that would work.

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Yeah, it was very surreal.

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This guy sounds a little bit like fat bastard.

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So I gotta let him do the fourth hour from now on.

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That's just in my radio show.

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I do impressions after all.

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Get out of here.

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So Alex gets another caller

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who does a excessive plug for Alex's product.

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Very excessive.

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But then he has a pitch for a shirt

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that I think would be in poor taste.

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My God, you have changed my life.

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Turbo Force has changed my life.

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I was red pilled in 2016,

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largely in part because of you.

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I started buying your products about a year ago

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you've got bodies, super silver,

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super silver for your teeth.

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Red pill plus, red pill.

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You've changed my life.

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What I really wanna say first off, I'm an artist.

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I was born and raised in the Kansas City area,

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but I moved to Northern California in 2011.

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I've been social networking since 1987.

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And the information warfare is exactly where we need to be.

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I had an idea for a t-shirt, which is why I called.

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It would show, it would be a picture of Anne Frank

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holding an AR or another kind of gun.

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And the caption would say, Anne Frank needed a gun.

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They've hijacked our women and we need women to-

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I totally agree.

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We need women to identify with being strong and empowered

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and not slaves of the globalist.

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That's a great idea.

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Anne Frank needed a gun on the front, on the back.

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Don't let dictators take your guns.

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And you're absolutely right.

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That's a great idea, sir.

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That's a great idea.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah.

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I did not know Banksy was an info warrior.

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I would just, I can't imagine how poorly

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that shirt would go over.

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There's just no, you just can't parody.

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You just can't parody them.

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They're just better at it.

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They're better at parodying themselves than I could ever.

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I would never even consider that.

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Can't put a hat on a hat, Drew.

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I would never consider that.

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That's bananas.

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So we get one last clip here from the 19th

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and it's Alex talking about how you can tell

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demon possessed people.

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Right.

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You can pick them out of a crowd and it's by their eyes.

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They designed a shirt with Anne Frank holding a gun on it.

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And then Alex starts wandering

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and giving a sort of biblical justification

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for killing people who are demon possessed.

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Right, right.

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Which isn't good, given the prior context

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of everything else that's happened on this show.

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And if you look at these globalists,

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they always have that look in their eyes

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like they're winning, they're so powerful,

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they're enjoying it.

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Those are haughty eyes and men have them too.

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And demon possessed people always have those eyes

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like they're gonna get you, it's funny

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and they're real cynical and you're a piece of filth.

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Absolutely, notice that was misinterpreted

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out of the Hebrew, thou shalt not kill,

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actually says thou shalt not murder.

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But that passage again says innocent blood.

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Innocent blood means killing people that didn't attack you.

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Killing people that didn't need killing,

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who were hurting innocent people.

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The whole Bible's full of God saying,

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these people are devil worshipers

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that give their kids to human sacrifice.

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I want them all dead, kill them.

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And I'm not saying go out and start killing people.

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I'm just telling you what the Bible says

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when it's time to go to war, God says wipe them out.

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Is that not the Bible?

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Holy shit.

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You know, it's the people most likely

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to carry around a Bible in their pocket

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who are least likely to have read the fucking Bible.

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I don't think you can have any less responsible thing

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you could say on air than,

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I'm not saying you should go around killing people,

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just telling you what the Bible says.

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I think you have entered into pretty bad territory.

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Jesus Christ.

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Yeah, so the show wraps up on the 19th,

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and I felt like that's exactly kind of what I expected,

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but actually more extreme than I expected

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of Alex's response to the impeachment being.

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Like I knew that he wasn't going to be caught

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like on his heels, you know,

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like he wasn't going to be off balance.

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Nobody's surprised by him, no.

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But I wasn't prepared for, first of all,

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the angle that he has to be so weak.

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Like the plans that the globalists have to be so dumb,

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so poorly thought through, it's so, just almost winning it.

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Like it doesn't indicate to me in any way

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that he sat down and thought like,

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all right, what are we going to do?

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It does seem like the Democrats

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and the globalist evil plans

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have a loose improvisational feel to them almost.

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Yeah, I would have expected,

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like he knows that the impeachment

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was going to happen at some point.

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And he's known that for a while.

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Yeah.

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Get your goddamn writers room together

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and have them come up with something inspired.

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Well, he just hired his first writer.

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He's Scottish.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, and I did expect there to be

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some sort of a extreme violent undertone,

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but I didn't expect it to be nearly that overt

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and that fucked up.

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But it does track with the sort of rising temperature

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of his show over the last couple of weeks.

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There has been a far more consistent discussion

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of the time to kill, when is killing okay,

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who should we kill?

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It does seem like that conversation is normalizing

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to an extent that it was not a while back.

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I think it's something to keep an eye on.

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Anyway, Alex gets in and look, dude, here's the deal.

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Okay.

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They're not just gonna try and impeach Trump.

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Pence is also on the chopping block.

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Well, I mean, yeah, he did it too.

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According to Alex.

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Oh, okay.

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So it's now all happening, this broke this morning

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and I see the crew putting up articles

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from flashback January, 2019, 11 months ago.

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11 months ago, we're not gonna show

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those articles here anymore.

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I'm gonna go to rebroadcast for a while, it's no big deal

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because I need to get prepared for this

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and I'm gonna go to a terminal

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and I'm gonna pull the clips from 2017,

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the clips from 2018 where myself and Roger Stone

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specifically laid out here on air

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exactly how they would trigger all of this.

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How did you not do this pre-show?

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How little do you care?

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They're like, ah, I'm gonna start the show

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and then within a minute, within two minutes

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of being on air being like, I'm going to rebroadcast

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because I gotta actually do prep,

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I gotta find those articles, my staff can't do it,

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they're not finding the right articles.

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He does nothing, he does nothing to prepare for this.

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It's all just talking shit.

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God, he has the easiest job.

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Yeah.

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And he still fucked it up.

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That's amazing.

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Quite.

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His ability to fail is incredible.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So anyway, the plan is to impeach Pence

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but then Pelosi gets in office.

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Then what?

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A plot to make Pelosi president.

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Now Adam Schiff wants to go after Vice President Pence

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and that's up on Infowars.com.

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We told you that hundreds of times.

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And who becomes president if he's removed?

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Pelosi.

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Then who's ready to run for office,

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still run the Democratic Party, waiting for a

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burger convention.

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Come on Hillary.

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Pelosi's the placeholder,

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she becomes the first woman president.

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But oh it's okay, we have an election a few months later

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and boom, Hillary Rodham Clinton is in, it's all set up,

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it's all prepared, we told you two years ago.

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With total precision.

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We're getting the clips.

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Total precision.

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All right, whatever.

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Anyway, that wasn't the plan according to you yesterday

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but whatever.

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I can't think of anybody more wrong than somebody

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who thinks Hillary Clinton.

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Total precision?

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That's what you're talking about?

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Yeah, I'm boggled.

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I'm boggled.

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So Alex is waiting for those clips for his interns

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to find them, because he doesn't actually go off air

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to do that work that he failed to do before the show.

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But you know, just riffing around, decides to get real

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fucking xenophobic, real fucking white nationalisty.

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So here's the beginning of that.

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And really they're just assaulting reality.

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And then having UN reports out saying we're gonna replace

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Europe with Muslims and the US, we want 600 million

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brought in in the next 30 years.

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The US official UN policy, 2001, voted into policy.

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I have the printouts from the UN right here.

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The ADL says they're lying in the upcoming UK election,

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this is a month ago, and they're saying

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that there's a thing called replacement migration

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to get rid of Europeans with Muslims.

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They specifically say Middle Eastern Muslims

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and North African Muslims, because they're more compatible

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with each other.

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Oh, they don't want any Christian Africans.

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They don't want any animist, which is just nature worship,

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Gaia stuff, because the Muslims kill them.

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They go, we're gonna have Muslims.

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They're the ones that are compatible,

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because there was an Austrian Hungarian prince

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can pull it up, who had a whole plan 100 years ago.

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He's the guy that invented the modern Olympics

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to bring in Muslims.

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Napoleon converted to Islam and had a plan

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to bring the Muslims into Europe.

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You're like, why would he do that too?

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Because there were more Muslims than there were Christians

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in Europe then too, you could take over.

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They're one group that acts as one.

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But Sacha Baron Cohen, like Napoleon,

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has already cast the dice.

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The ADL now literally is an Islamic organization.

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Whatever.

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So Alex isn't totally lying.

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In as much as the UN did release a report in 2001

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called, quote, replacement migration,

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is it a solution to declining and aging populations?

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The problem, as it always is with Alex,

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is that he doesn't understand what he didn't read.

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The executive summary of the document begins

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by explaining that the report will lay out

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six possible scenarios they see as possibilities

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based on the current population trends

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in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Republic of Korea,

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the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom,

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and the United States.

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These scenarios were differentiated

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by computing different levels of migration

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and how it would affect the countries,

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specifically in terms of population,

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and the report is very clear, saying, quote,

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these are not meant to be recommendations in any way

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but illustrations of hypothetical scenarios.

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Alex takes all his numbers about UN recommendations

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for immigrants from scenario six,

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because that's the one where the numbers were the highest.

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That was their scenario of how many immigrants

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would be needed to keep the ratio of people

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aged 15 to 64, the workforce,

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the ratio of them to people 65 or older

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at the highest possible rate that it would have been.

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Again, the report is clear about what it is

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within the text, saying, quote,

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readers should keep in mind that the results

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of scenario six are for illustrative purposes only.

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Given the assumption that current age structure

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of the population would remain unchanged in the future,

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the resulting large number of migrants needed

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should be considered totally unrealistic.

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It says that in the document.

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In the discussion section, it's discussed

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how unfeasible this scenario is,

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literally saying, quote, this scenario

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is clearly not realistic.

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Therefore, immigration cannot prevent

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aging of the population.

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The conclusion offered in the report

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is exactly the opposite of what Alex would have you believe.

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Of course.

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Also, I would love to see how Alex explains

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that the number of immigrants needed in scenario six

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is five times higher for the Republic of Korea

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than it is for all of Europe.

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I thought he was saying that this was all about

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flooding the West with migrants,

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but I bet if he presented with this sort of rebuttal,

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he would just say that Korea is the West.

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Yeah, sure, why not?

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Immigration is. North Korea is the East

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and South Korea is the West.

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Didn't you remember the Korean War?

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That's where the Patriots won.

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Okay.

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Immigration is one part of the report,

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but it's really about much more.

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It has to do with aspects of the question

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of the changing age distribution in populations.

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They bring up issues about how the ratio

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of worker to retirees is affected

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by the age of retirement in countries.

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The level of labor force participation

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can change that dynamic.

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And how the problems of a higher rate

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of retirees to workers can be offset

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by increased contributions from workers

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into programs designed to help the elderly.

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Those sorts of things can solve

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all sorts of problems on their own.

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The report is much, much larger than what Alex presents,

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but that's because he doesn't care

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about what the UN is actually doing

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or studying or looking at.

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He just wants you to know

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that they wanna bring in Muslims.

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And it's because they wanna conquer you

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and the best way to do that is bringing in Muslims.

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This is, on the one hand,

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a horrible mishandling of his source material.

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It shows that he has no grasp nor any interest

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in the actual issues that he's covering.

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More importantly, on the other hand,

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it shows a deeply internalized Islamophobia

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that's so far past the point of acceptability,

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I don't even really know how to address it.

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If Alex thinks that Muslims all act as one,

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then I don't know what to say about it

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except to say he's a profound bigot.

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He's turning a minority group into a unified bloc,

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which only makes his audience fear

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and hate the individuals contained in that group more.

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They're no longer individuals.

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They're mindless parts of a unified bloc

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that only exists in this country

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because the UN is using them to conquer you.

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That kind of thinking is repulsive,

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and I really feel like that's a pretty good demonstration

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of Alex's horrible white identity leanings and xenophobia.

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To drive this point home, I read the UN report,

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and the words Muslim and Islam

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don't appear anywhere in the text.

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Sure, of course not.

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It would be too easy if they did one place.

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If they just showed up one place, instead,

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God, that's, see, now that's just to fuck you.

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That's just to fuck you to me personally.

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Alex is just making stuff up.

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I am so mad that it's not even mentioned.

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You don't even have the fucking time to look for one spot

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where it might be mentioned, that's just gravy.

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Also, the founder of the modern Olympics

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is not an Austro-Hungarian prince.

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No, he was not.

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It was Pierre de Coubertin,

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a French historian and philosopher,

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so I'm pretty sure Alex is just making shit up.

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It's actually that he read

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on some dumb, dumb white nationalist blog.

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Man, that is unreal.

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Yeah.

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That is just unreal.

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Totally, and it gets worse,

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because a caller calls in and wants to bring up

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another pretty xenophobic narrative,

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and it's about the death of Kate Steinle,

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which is the woman who was shot by a bullet

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that ricocheted, accidentally fired

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by an undocumented immigrant.

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We've talked about that case quite a bit,

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and I wouldn't actually even include this clip.

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It would be background noise.

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If it weren't for how Alex tells this story,

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he adds so many details to this story

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that I've not heard him even report before,

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and are completely made up.

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I just think that Trump had a chance

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a long time ago to stop this.

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He could have done the Insurgency Act.

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He could have stopped these low-life people.

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Look at Kate Steinle.

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That poor woman was shot to death,

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and what did they do?

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They allowed sanctuary cities.

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This thing should have been stopped.

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Yeah, the illegal alien just wanted to kill her,

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because she was white, and then the liberals went,

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well, you're a Mexican who's been deported five times.

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You're allowed to murder her,

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and then they said he's a victim,

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and now he's suing the jail where he was held.

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She was with her dad.

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She just shot her in the back for fun.

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How does that make you feel in America?

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Well, I mean, here's my deal.

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I don't care if you're brown or white.

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You don't want anybody being able

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to just shoot a young woman in the back for no reason.

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You're right.

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And he shot her because she was beautiful.

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What?

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I don't care about beautiful black woman,

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brown woman, white woman.

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There are a lot of people jealous of beautiful women,

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and Kate Steinle was gorgeous, beautiful,

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and he killed her because he was pissed and jealous

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and thought that that was her older boyfriend.

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It was her dad hugging her,

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and they were crying and talking about family members

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that had just died,

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and he saw that and thought he saw a couple together,

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and he murdered her because he was jealous.

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This clip is a serious, serious problem.

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For one, as we discussed in previous episodes,

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Kate Steinle's death is a tragic event.

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I am not in any way taking away from that,

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but it was not a murder.

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A judge acquitted Jose Inez Garcia Zarate

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of first-degree murder, second-degree murder,

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involuntary manslaughter,

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and even assault with a semiautomatic firearm

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because it was clear that he did not mean

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to fire the bullet that ricocheted and then hit Steinle.

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He was charged with being a felon

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in possession of a firearm,

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but that conviction was overturned by the Court of Appeals

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because the previous jury was not instructed properly

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about what constitutes being in possession of a gun.

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Garcia Zarate found a gun that was wrapped in rags,

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which he picked up, not knowing it was a gun.

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In the process, the gun fired.

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This is an example of a horrible tragedy,

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and I have nothing but empathy for the Steinle family

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and what they've had to go through.

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That being said,

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the way the right-wing media has used this case

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is indicative of very extreme hostility towards immigrants.

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There's no evidence that Garcia Zarate was in possession

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of the gun, let alone that he intended to shoot a wall,

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knowing that the bullet would bounce off and hit Steinle.

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And yet, this has been the rallying case

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for xenophobic assholes like Alex and everyone at Infowars,

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and I think this clip is Alex letting it slip

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a little bit too much as to why.

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The stuff about Garcia Zarate killing Steinle

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because she was beautiful is completely made up.

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The idea that he thought that her father

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was her older boyfriend and that he couldn't stand

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the jealousy is absolutely not based on anything real,

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but it does rely on pretty standard white supremacist tropes

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about non-white men.

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They're coming for our women.

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Exactly.

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What Alex is doing in this clip is legitimately no different

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from pro-segregation propaganda about black men

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having uncontrollable lust for white women

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that they would act out violently

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if not kept in their place.

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Yep.

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Without descending too far back onto this riff,

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Alex is pretending that he's reporting facts,

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but literally all of this is him talking about his feelings,

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and his feelings are fucking racist.

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He feels like Garcia Zarate killed Steinle

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because she was beautiful and a white woman,

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and he was jealous that he couldn't be with her,

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but that, all that is is Alex's feelings.

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He's making that up because he believes,

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it fits, you know, he believes it

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because it fits with the internalized racist narratives

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that fill his head, that he's presenting it

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to his audience as fact.

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Yeah, no.

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He's presenting this as truth, and it is not.

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And if, I mean, if that was anybody

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with even a little bit more power,

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they would, that's clear lawsuit.

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Like, that's clear, that's not even a little bit.

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I was thinking about that possibility.

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They could, they're absolutely going after him

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because he doesn't have the means

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or ability to go after them.

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Put power aside, I think he still might have a case.

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Oh, no, he absolutely does.

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That's what I'm saying.

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No, they know, or at least he should by now,

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that that is clearly actionable legally.

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But they're, boy, it's a good target

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if you recognize how much money it costs

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to do anything in the judicial system.

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Because that is, there's no way that that's not,

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that's, he just told this bullshit story about this guy,

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turning him into the fucking raving, lunatic immigrant

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who can't control himself around a beautiful white woman.

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His lust transformed to murder.

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Yeah, there's no way that's not defamation.

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Yeah, I agree.

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There's no way.

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That's my sense of it, again, not as a lawyer.

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And it's malicious.

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He's very malicious.

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And he knows it's not true.

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He has every reason to know it's not true.

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That's just fucked up, that's just fucked up.

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That dude deserves all of Alex's money.

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I've never heard that version of this told,

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and the way Alex is telling it is so full of feeling,

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as opposed to all the stuff we heard on the previous day

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where it's just rote, going through the motions

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of this is the globalist plan.

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He feels that.

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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He feels that this person was lusting for Kate Steinle

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and had to kill her.

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That's so much, that's so much the fucking.

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It's the difference between a script

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and just sort of like, eh, this is what we do

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and this is what I love.

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And that's just so much that fucking Jim Crow era.

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You're like, we have to do this and here's why.

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Because imagine your daughter being around a black man.

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It has the same flavor.

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You don't want that to happen.

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It relies on that tradition very heavily.

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And I don't believe that Alex is in some way aware

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that that's what he's doing.

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So Alex gets to, I mean this clip I just kept in,

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maybe as a palate cleanser because it's another one

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of these indications we see over and over again

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of just like such fake passion.

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It's dangerous to go after these people

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but it's more dangerous not to.

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The battle is joined.

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Ah, you can feel the energy.

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You can feel the fight.

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Stand up now.

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I mean that's completely fake

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but it does seem like he's enjoying that a little.

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I think he likes those yelling again.

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He's getting a little charge out of, just faking it.

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Yeah, in the same way as over the saxophone.

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You belong to the city earlier.

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It's that same thing, he really only seems

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to have a good time when he's being a racist

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and when he's yelling in and out of breaks.

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Yeah.

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That's it, that's all he's got.

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The only times he has a good time are when he's singing,

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drinking, and being a racist.

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Now that's a good Texan, my friend.

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I suppose, hey don't say that.

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I know, I know.

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There's a lot of great Texans out there.

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I know, I'm just kidding.

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Hey, do you know what I don't do?

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Assume that every single Texan is exactly the same

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and functions as one single block

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and that's why we have no problem with the UN killing them.

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Good on you.

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Yeah, I'm very brave.

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So Alex gets a call on this episode from a guy named Ranger

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and he apparently had to do, he was on a boat at one point.

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And he had to deal with some pirates.

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And unlike Alex, he did not give it up to these pirates.

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He didn't?

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No, this is interesting because I think he's trying

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to sort of tell the metaphor about what Trump needs to do

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in the country.

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So I used to do private security.

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We were working on a boat one time,

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a large vessel that was actually, pirates came on board.

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They actually got on board.

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Usually it's not a big concern.

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They generally don't have boats that were fast enough.

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But when that did happen,

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the captain put the boat on lockdown.

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Everybody went to their cabins and locked the doors.

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We went room to room, you know, clearing the boat out.

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Well, maybe it's time that the president looks

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at putting the country on lockdown.

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All right, that is the perfect analogy.

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I can't imagine thinking, like listening to Alex's show

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and imagining a scenario where a caller would call in

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and say, hey, you know what?

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I think the executive needs to unilaterally put the country

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into a strict lockdown, much like you have pirates

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on a boat and you got to clear it door to door.

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How could you even possibly conceive that that would be

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an acceptable line of conversation on the show?

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It's so far afield of what he pretends to be about

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or pretended to be about.

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It's almost unthinkable.

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That is genuinely, that is, I mean,

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that's genuinely everything that you've ever fought against.

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That's everything.

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That's literally part of the fucking goddamn constitution

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is that we can't, they can't force us

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to house and quarter people.

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Like that's the basic function of the idea.

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The whole fucking country started

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because somebody did that.

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Well, there's a lot of reasons.

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Don't fall into the same trap as Alex

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with the Second Amendment is the only reason.

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No, no, no.

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I'm saying that the part of the,

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I mean, their functional idea is always

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that the constitution and the revolutionary war is amazing.

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And literally they're doing stuff

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that the founding fathers were like,

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let's make sure this never happens.

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Yeah, no.

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That's crazy.

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No, they are very stupid.

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That's insane.

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That's insane.

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So Alex doesn't just say that's a great analogy.

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He doubles down.

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That is the perfect allegory.

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The globalists are pirates.

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They're not Americans.

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They're not following the law.

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They admit they wanna overthrow the will of the people.

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Pelosi, Nadler, they've all said,

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oh, we're afraid he's gonna get reelected.

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They've admitted their crime.

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It is a coup.

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It's like clearing pirates.

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We've gotta do it because they're gonna only escalate

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when we kick their ass this time.

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So we come back, I'm gonna give you two minutes

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to make your statement again on that in completion.

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Alex wants to record it to put out

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as its own standalone video.

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This guy's calling in and saying

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that Trump needs to clear the ship from pirates.

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He does not do a good job of it when they come back.

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He doesn't get a clean take.

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Does he also record or play a clip from him,

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like say 2015-ish,

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saying that the president is a dictator and a tyrant

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who is trying to lock people down

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and go door to door taking their guns?

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Does he put those two back to back

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and show that he's ideologically fine?

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No, he doesn't have time for self-examination.

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The fight against the globalist is too strong.

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It takes too much time.

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I mean, he said that.

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He said that Obama was going to go door to door,

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make everybody stay inside, and he would grab their guns,

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and by doing that, he was a tyrant.

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Right, right, he's just gonna take

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the globalist's guns, though, in this case.

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Oh, I didn't realize that.

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Trump's just gonna take the globalist's guns.

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Man, man.

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And you can tell the globalists

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because they're demon-possessed,

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and you see it in their eyes.

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Right, right, right.

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Cool.

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Anyway, Alex, you know,

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he doesn't get the clean take he's looking for,

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but he does offer the exact excuse

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you would expect from a crypto-fascist

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for why you need to enact fascism.

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Oh, okay.

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We just had a caller, if he just joined us,

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who laid it all out, how he did security

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on a ship that actually got boarded by pirates,

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and what the captain did in that emergency.

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I don't want martial law.

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I don't want civil war.

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The globalists are putting us into the national emergency.

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They made us do it.

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Isn't that, it's always-

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I don't want martial law.

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I don't want martial law, but they forced my hand.

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Yeah.

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Such, such stupid shit.

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Yeah, my operating theory is that

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these guys would rather destroy America

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than share it with non-white people.

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It's amazing.

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I mean, who would've thought,

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who would've thought that a group

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that for decades has been primarily anti-government

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would just say, hey, all of a sudden,

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we're like, we are super into this government.

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The most government.

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We would like the most government.

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We would like it to crack down on us.

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When I say us-

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It makes you think that maybe, just maybe,

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they're still anti-government, and anti you and I.

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Oh, man.

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So Christianity Today, the publication came out

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in support of removing Trump.

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Right.

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And this has caused a little bit of a,

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I mean, it's not a crisis,

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but Alex now hates Christianity Today, I guess.

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That wasn't hard.

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It was a real short walk to get there.

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Yeah, and so does this caller,

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who actually, Alex might not have brought it up at all

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if this caller didn't bring it to the table.

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But this is, I would say this is a bad look,

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the way they're covering this story.

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Hey, Alex, I have some massive breaking news.

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It's been coming out that Trump has had a love child

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with one of his closest friends and teammates,

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and that he was worried about that coming out,

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and he actually had him killed.

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Of course, I'm joking.

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Oh, okay.

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But hear me out.

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As much as a shock as it was to hear that,

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and I'm sure everybody was shocked by it,

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that's what King David did.

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And I'm calling out Christians today,

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because Christians will wave the flag of Christianity,

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and I'm a Christian, by the way,

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but Christians will say that David

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was a man after God's own heart.

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But I see the hypocrisy that's happening now

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against Christians that are not standing

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with their president, with their leaders,

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whether you like him or not.

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The Bible says that we're to pray for our leaders,

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if you like him or not.

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And today, Papa Drudge, Christianity today

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comes out calling for the removal of Donald Trump,

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saying that he should be out of there.

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I think that's completely disgusting.

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Whether you like him or not,

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you pray for your leaders,

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unless his name is Barack Obama.

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Well, I mean, hey, hey, Dan, Dan,

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whether you like him or not, you just, you know.

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Whether you like him or not,

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you pray for him unless you are, they're Democrats.

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They're Democrats.

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Look, dude, this is such bullshit.

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I think this is really dumb for a number of reasons.

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The first is that David repented,

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and that's a big part of the story.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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But this is just, this is just shit.

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Such, such dumb, dumb shit.

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But it's so indicative of like, hey, you know what?

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Last week, these people fucking loved Christianity today.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Like, it's.

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Nothing means anything.

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You do the one thing that you cannot do.

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Yep.

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And that is.

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Disagree with the leader.

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Criticize the leader, yeah.

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You are now devils.

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That's bananas.

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You take that step, you're gone.

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It's very much like, I don't, you know what?

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I'm starting to think a lot of these Christian people

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don't really particularly care about what's in the Bible.

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Doesn't feel that way.

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I think they just wanna use that book

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to justify the things they already wanted to do.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So Alex, he's been saying throughout this

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December 20th episode that the Supreme Court

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has ruled that Nancy Pelosi can't do what she's doing

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by withholding the impeachment indictment

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going to the Senate.

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Sure.

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I had no idea what he was talking about.

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I was waiting for him to get to it,

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because he never did until quite a bit down the line.

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And he folds that in with his ideas about like,

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hey, the public's so dumb,

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they think impeachment is conviction.

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Sure.

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And all of that.

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I don't think they do, though.

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I think in the same way you could do

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a man on the street video.

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Well, yeah, yeah.

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You could get some response as people would do.

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Sure, sure.

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I bet a higher percentage than we would like to think

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do think that.

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Yeah, naturally, but I would also bet

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that they're low engaged with the news kind of thing.

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Very likely.

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Not like stupid, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Very likely.

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But I don't particularly care about,

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and not that I don't care about them as people,

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but in terms of that input, that's not something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I would respond to that sort of thing

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by saying like, yes, education needs to be better.

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Right.

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That's about it.

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That's the only take I have on it.

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Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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But Alex has other feelings.

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He thinks that I don't really know this is dumb.

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I research, I'm somewhat informed, so are you,

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and you think, oh, everybody knows

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the House is just an impeachment,

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that's just an indictment,

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but no large portions of Americans

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in major polls, got articles up on informers.com,

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people in questionnaires on the street

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believe he's been removed.

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They believe he's been convicted.

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Well, the Supreme Court ruled years ago, multiple times,

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that you can't do what Pelosi did

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in a congressional process between the House and Senate.

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They can't demand rules be changed

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or they won't follow the constitutional procedure

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of holding up the impeachment,

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but they don't care because it's a ruthless power grab

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like everything else these criminals do.

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Supreme Court ruling knocks down

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Pelosi's impeachment demands.

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The framers did not intend to impose additional limitations

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on the form of the Senate proceedings,

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the Supreme Court stated in Nixon versus United States.

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And they go through the fact

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that you cannot have the House

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telling the Senate what they can do

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and the Supreme Court ruled in that

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in a federal judge's impeachment.

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And he goes through it.

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The Supreme Court

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broke it all down.

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I'm not gonna read the whole article,

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but people need to see this, you need to read this.

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Go ahead and read it.

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Go ahead and read it.

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I'm not gonna read the whole article.

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An Alex Jones story.

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Yeah, Alex's argument that Nancy Pelosi

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cannot hold up delivering the impeachment to the Senate

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is based on a flawed reading

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of the 1993 Supreme Court decision,

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Nixon versus the United States.

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That case had nothing to do with

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the situation we're in now,

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but it does include that one sentence

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that somehow still employed at InfoWars Kit Daniels

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used as a hinge to make it sound relevant.

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The quote, the framers did not intend to impose

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additional limitations on the form of the Senate proceedings.

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Alex read it there, it's sort of the cornerstone

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of the article on InfoWars.

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Out of context, that kind of appears to be saying

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that the Senate gets to decide everything.

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But really, in regards to this specific complaint

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being heard, it doesn't really fit.

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What is it with you in this context?

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It's always like, oh, you should understand things

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within the context in which they were said.

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It's a hang up.

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And then there's the time period, that's also context.

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Dan, there's so much context.

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What if instead, I told you,

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you could believe whatever you wanted to believe.

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Sounds fun.

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In this case, a judge named Walter Nixon,

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who'd been impeached, sued to have his salary reinstated

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because he believed that the Senate Rule 11

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had been broken by how the Senate carried itself out

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in the impeachment process.

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His argument was rejected, and the Supreme Court held

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that the framers really were only requiring

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that the senators be under oath,

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that two-thirds vote for conviction to pass,

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and that the Chief Justice presided over the case

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when it's the president being impeached.

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That's not required in other impeachments,

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just in cases of presidential impeachment.

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That's so funny that a judge who was impeached

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came up with a flawed legal argument.

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Other than these three things, the framers did not intend

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to impose additional limitations

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on the form of the Senate proceedings.

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This legitimately has nothing to do

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with how an impeachment indictment

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is transferred from the House to the Senate.

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If there were any actual case law surrounding this,

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I would assume Alex wouldn't come up

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with this completely unrelated case as his smoking gun.

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Really, it's too bad that Barnes isn't still around

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to ramble about lies and libel this time.

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Just when you need a constitutional lawyer.

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Yeah.

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They're scarce.

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Because it's literally like you can make

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your own fucking rules.

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That's the whole point.

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Oh, God.

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Yeah.

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So, I'm gonna skip these next couple clips

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because they're just Alex rambling about how

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this whole plan is to get Hillary as president.

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We kinda got it.

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We get that that's his idea.

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If anybody actually, if we ever got into that situation

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where Hillary was somehow tried to sneak in for 2020,

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of sharp backlash from the left.

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No, I think that would be the one thing

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that causes an actual third party to happen,

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is everybody on the left just being like,

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we got it now, fuck this.

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You'd like to think that that's what.

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Fuck the Democrats.

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You'd like to think that's what would happen

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and it's a nice thought.

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Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't.

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But I think that you would have a complete breakdown

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on the left from that.

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For sure.

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Saying nothing of what the right's response would be

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just within the left, you'd have a severe disinterest.

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Yeah, honestly, that might be the first time

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that I mean it whenever I say,

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if Hillary Clinton becomes president in 2020, I'm moving.

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Because there's no point.

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Eat my hat.

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Nothing matters.

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So, Alex goes back to the phones and he takes a caller

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who, as all of these callers are,

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does a long, long plug for his products.

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And then Alex has a string of lies.

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Support this man, you heard what Chase said.

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Everything that he exposed,

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nobody knew about Bohemian Grove, nobody knew about Epstein,

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nobody knew about Bilderberg, nobody called 9-11

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before it happened in July 2001.

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Go look it up yourself.

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I'm sorry, it wasn't Alex, it was the caller

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who has the string of lies.

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All of those things are not true of Alex.

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Some of them are just not true.

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Like the Bohemian Grove was covered

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and reported on prior to Alex.

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Some of those other things,

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those are not true of Alex either.

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They're true of Bill Cooper.

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They are true of the person whose legacy Alex is

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stealing, carrying, destroying upon himself.

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Burning.

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Yeah, it's a really interesting dynamic.

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I'm interested in looking more into that in the future.

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But it's very interesting.

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I assume Bill Cooper's dead, right?

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Yes.

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Okay, okay.

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We went over this, we talked about it.

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He got killed in a shootout with the police

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because he wouldn't pay his taxes.

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Yes, the most honest way for a man like that to go,

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I guess.

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Yeah, I hate it.

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I hate it, but it's exactly the end

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that he always said would come.

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You gotta give him that.

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I don't know.

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You're very close to Somali pirate territory.

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Somali pirates, you gotta give them up.

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You gotta give them up, too.

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I refuse to give it up for that.

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So Alex, he's talking a little bit more

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about the Christianity Today thing.

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And he sees it as quite a betrayal.

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And like I said already, you turn on Trump

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and you are now the devil.

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You see that here in this next clip.

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A lot of great people are evangelicals

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at the grassroots, the best people.

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But the leadership, Christianity Today,

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Billy Graham's son supports Trump.

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Christianity Today's not run by them.

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These are globalists saying Trump's bad.

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That is devilish.

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You judge a tree by the fruits.

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Trump's going after abortion.

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Trump's standing up to the pedophiles.

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Trump's defending Christian's rights.

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And they're attacking it.

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Christianity Today is a din of devils.

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By their works, you shall know them.

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So I mean, you just, if you fall out of step,

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you're a devil.

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It's like a definition of Christianity

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is supporting Trump now, according to Alex,

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which is a merging of sort of religious

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and political ideas, which is like,

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we've already had such leanings

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of authoritarian, dictator-y kind of feelings for Alex.

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And now we are merging that theocratic idea pretty hard.

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Yeah, because if they removed Trump

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and got him out of office,

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then the next, the vice president, of course,

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would be, I don't know, a real den of hell

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kinda hiding in the bushes, screwing around.

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Oh, no, it's Mike fucking Pence.

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You might, you might, you might think.

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Christianity will be fine.

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You might think that Christianity Today

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is more of the mind that Trump has done the damage

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he can do to a lot of institutions and such,

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and you know, Mike Pence is a pretty good option

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for us evangelicals.

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Maybe it's time to cut bait on the bull in a china shop

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and go with a more steady hand.

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Yeah, it's very simple.

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That would be a good strategic decision

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if you were a zealous political Christian.

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And it's not like Mike Pence is going to suddenly

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not go after abortion folk and all that shit.

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All those things that Alex seems to pretend is his priority.

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Everything that he just said Mike Pence would do,

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if not as well, twice as hard, you know?

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Yeah, so we have one last clip,

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and Alex is talking to a caller,

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and this caller has a horrible, horrible position,

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and Alex loves it.

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And Trump is starting to become a failure

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only because he's been too nice to these Democrats.

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I would have just rolled these fucking plotters up.

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You know, it's just like, it just seems like

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most of the Republicans in my state, dude,

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are too overwhelmed, too intensified to fight back.

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If I were Trump, and I would sit there

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and say impeachment be damned,

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calling for Rex 84, I'm locking down the country,

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I'm putting the military on the borders,

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I'm stopping all travel, dude, for all these politicians,

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and I'm smoking these Democrats out with the Marines,

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and just taking control of this Democrat coup.

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I wish Trump sometimes was a dictator.

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Hell, the Democrats call him one every freaking day.

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The media are criminals,

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and they're complicit with this treason,

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and I would have arrested them just like Lincoln did.

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He arrested Battlefield correspondent Alex.

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Brother, I love that passion, because you're not lying down,

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you're awake, and you're not just screaming and yelling

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and saying racist, racist, or mindless programming points.

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You're saying eloquent focus points

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about what's happening and about action.

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You're not saying program points.

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You kind of are, just they're mine.

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They're my programming talking points.

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So I love that passion.

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I love that you're excited about the bullshit

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I've gotten you down the line of.

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And that caller is getting the message.

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That's one of the things that you really see

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if you look at these callers.

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Look at the callers that we've had on this show.

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We have this guy who's internalized the message

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of Trump should be a dictator that Alex clearly puts out,

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whether he expresses it that way or not.

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You had the caller who called in about Kate Steinle,

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who's expressing this xenophobic, anti-immigrant position

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that Alex has very clearly fostered in his audience.

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You got the guy calling in who's a Scottish comedian,

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and Alex clearly wants people who are minor viral stars

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that he can try and exploit, so you get that too.

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And then you got the guy who calls in who's like,

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when is it time to start shooting people?

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Just something is a question that Alex's audience

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would clearly have based on his coverage of things.

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I imagine that every show they think about that.

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You know what you don't have callers calling in

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really having robust conversations about?

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How do we ensure the peaceful transition of government

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throughout not just this election,

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but all elections to come,

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assuming that we continue to be a democratic nation?

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I didn't hear that come up.

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You didn't hear that one come up?

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No. No.

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So I think at the end of this episode,

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you got a real problem, and it's the same problem,

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and it's growing.

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I don't mean this to say something bad's gonna happen,

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because I think it's entirely possible it won't.

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I don't know if Alex's callers are real.

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Yeah.

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That's one issue.

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There is one problem there.

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I can't prove that either way.

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So I would never make the claim

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that these are all fake callers,

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but a lot of radio shows do use plants.

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Yeah, of course.

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So that's within the realm of possibility.

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It's tough to film three hours of content.

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And that would make me less scared,

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because there's an entire possibility

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that Alex has a minuscule audience by this point.

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Whatever.

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Either way, what he's putting out into the world

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is incredibly toxic and dangerous.

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And I do think that as he is irrelevant

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to a lot of the larger conversation in the world,

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that is definitely true,

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but this show is getting more extreme.

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The things that are being much more openly discussed

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are the things that are really, really fucked up.

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The overt white nationalism that is expressed

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through his retelling of a fake version

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of Kate Steinle's murder is insanely unacceptable.

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And without doubt, legally actionable.

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The way that he expresses this,

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his misreading of this 2001 UN population study

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into being all Muslims act as one

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is an incredibly dangerous,

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but that is, and not to minimize it,

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because I think it is very serious,

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it's kind of fairly standard for him.

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Maybe that one's not as much of an escalation,

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but it still deserves to be taken seriously.

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We're so inured with anti-Islam,

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or Islamophobia and anti-Islam fervor

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that it's hard to like. It's hard to tell

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when it's escalating. Yeah, exactly.

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But the open discussion of violence,

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the open discussion of when is the time to kill people,

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who should we be targeting,

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those conversations are starting to happen on his show

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a bit more than I recall.

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So that is my big point.

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It's worth noting that. Yeah.

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I like, I just, those guys probably work somewhere.

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Like they have a job where other people work with them.

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Right.

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And those people have no idea

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that sitting next to them is.

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Or maybe they do.

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Or maybe, well, yeah.

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I'm just like.

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I'm sure they tried to sell them brain force

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at some point. Yeah, well,

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that's probably fair.

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I don't think a lot of people who are Alex Jones fans

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aren't open about it. Right.

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I think you'll. That's fair.

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You'll know them by their shirts.

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But that might not be true either.

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I don't know.

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Maybe there's a lot of crypto info warriors.

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I have no idea.

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I just think like, I don't know.

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It's really hard for me to put a button on this,

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but I'm trying to express that this is escalating.

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Yeah.

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On his own and what is okay to talk about on the show.

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Whether or not that's because Alex is allowing

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those conversations more,

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or the audience is picking up on these things.

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But you also do notice that a lot of these things

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that are the worst are the product of his callers

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bringing stuff up. Yeah.

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Alex is terrible on his own.

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Don't get me wrong.

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I'm not saying that he's off the hook.

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Right.

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But the parts of this episode

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that I think are the most fucked up

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are things that the callers have brought

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into the conversation. Absolutely.

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Without question.

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And to me, that indicates the audience

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is responding to things that are on the show

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and being like, well, this is what's going on.

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Let's talk about it.

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Yeah.

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And that's really bad.

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That to me is a really bad sign.

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Yeah.

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Because if Alex's audience is diminishing,

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what is he gonna do?

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What's the business decision?

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Follow your audience.

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You don't lead the audience anymore.

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You can't afford to.

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Yeah.

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Well, also if you're in a civil war scenario,

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you wanna be at the back, let them go front.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I just, you know what?

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I wanna eulogize Godwin's law.

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I really think that it was a valuable law

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for internet discourse early on.

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And now, you know, it's dead because it only functions

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if both parties are not actually Nazis.

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When one party is just like, yeah, we're Nazis.

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Then, well, I guess it's not valuable anymore.

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Game over.

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Yeah, I don't know what I think outside of like,

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as this process rolls along,

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as the impeachment trial happens,

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I just expect that trend to continue.

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But I don't know if it's impotent.

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Like, I don't know how scared anybody should be

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about Alex putting this out into the world.

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I mean, obviously, he shouldn't do this.

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Yeah.

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But I don't know.

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I don't wanna be alarmist and I don't wanna scare people.

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Because I think, ultimately, maybe no one's listening.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm not even that worried about what happens there.

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It's only because the only way

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that Trump is going to be removed from office

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is if he keeps talking.

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I mean, it's pretty clear that he's the only one

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who's going to incriminate himself

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past the point of them defending him.

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Like, no matter what evidence brings forth,

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the Republican Party's gonna defend him.

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The only person who's going to make it impossible

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not to remove him from office is him.

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It does seem that way.

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So, then all these fears of like,

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oh, when they remove him, when they get rid of him,

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are all going to deflate so hard, right?

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After the trial is over and Trump isn't removed,

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don't those, doesn't that fear have to deflate

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at least a little bit?

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Not really.

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Because what's going to happen,

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at least based on my understanding

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of things that have been said,

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like the House is going to continue other investigations.

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Sure.

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Things like that.

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So, there's going to be stories

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that are coming out about that.

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Of course.

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Maybe something about the Trump Foundation

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or his businesses, right?

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And that, because of the framing that Alex has used,

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will be the, like, even though Trump is gonna win

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in the Senate, these are the attempts to still remove him.

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Yeah.

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So, the prophecy is still validated

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even if the end conclusion is him not being convicted

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in the Senate.

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Right, right.

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There'll be these, there'll be the kernels

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of reality of his narrative still made manifest

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in the world.

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Yeah.

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So, I think that even though the inevitable conclusion

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of him probably never being convicted in the Senate,

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even though that is still this end goal,

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along the way, there's still the validation

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that goes along with it.

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Right.

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And then, once, you know, the Senate trial concludes,

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like, we were just too strong for the Globas,

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we stopped them from being able to play their tricks.

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Yeah.

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So, no, there isn't a need for a deflation.

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That's fair.

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There never is.

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I just don't know how long that this media environment

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can continue to redline people.

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Like, I just don't know how long Trump, or Trump

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and Fox News and Alex and all of these guys,

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because they're always redlining people.

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They're always getting people as close as possible

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to the most, like, every morning on Fox and Friends,

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they're coming to kill Trump or whatever it is.

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Right, right, right.

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Like, you're always redlined.

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Yeah.

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And I just don't know how long you can redline people for.

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I know.

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Before it either, you know, before the pistons explode

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or the car runs out of gas.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't have an answer to that question.

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I don't know, we'll see.

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Anyway, we'll see what happens,

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but until then, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep, we're on Twitter.

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