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saying we are the bad guys
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Andy and Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledge Fight.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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Like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk just a tiny bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are Dan.
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Jordan this is exhausting times but what do you got going on?
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Dan I was just going to ask you real quick.
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Yeah.
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One question.
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Sure.
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Well it might be two questions depending on your definition.
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I might have time for both of them.
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We'll see.
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Have you either been the pitcher of or receiver of a surprise party?
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Uh.
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Nope.
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Next question.
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I feel like it has to have happened or I've been involved in one.
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Right.
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But if it has there is no memory.
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No memory.
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It's uneventful enough to the point where I have no idea.
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Yeah.
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I know that I've yelled surprise at somebody.
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I know.
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Anytime you do that that's a party.
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That's what that is.
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I am sure that I've been at a party where we yelled surprise.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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To the extent that I remember it in a specific way it means that I might have been like a
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third tier friend that was there for a surprise party.
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Right.
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I don't know.
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I think I'm pretty lucky in that I don't think anyone has ever thought like let's get Dan
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a surprise.
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I bet he'd love that.
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You're not a surprise party guy.
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I would probably probably deal with it pretty gracefully but it's definitely not something
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I would enjoy.
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Yeah but see you put it that way.
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Yeah.
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I would deal with it gracefully is not the same as thank you for throwing me a surprise
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party.
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I would try not to be grumpy unsuccessfully.
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I know I've yelled surprise before.
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I assume I have.
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What was your second question?
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Well that was that it was either the receiver or pitcher.
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Oh okay.
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It was a clarifying second question.
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Yeah yeah yeah.
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I apologize that I do not have any memories of notable surprise parties.
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That's interesting.
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But I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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That is true.
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That's my redeeming quality for this introduction.
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We got it.
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So Jordan today the world is on fire.
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Yeah.
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In what year?
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The hills are alive with the sound of bullshit is how I would describe this.
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Come on.
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It's just the end.
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So there's a lot going on in the world and when we put out our last episode for Wednesday
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we had we did a present day episode but we had done it before a lot of the news that's
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relevant and people are probably interested now in Alex's take on had broken.
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So today we're staying in the present.
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Yeah.
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And we are going to be going over September 24th and 25th which would be what that Tuesday
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and Wednesday of this week when interesting newsworthy boy noteworthy events on those
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two days.
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I had trouble pulling clips.
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There's a lot going on.
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So we've got first of all it for everyone who doesn't know the sort of the broad strokes
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of what's been going on we have the Trump Ukraine situation.
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Yeah.
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If you're listening to this in posterity.
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Yes.
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I suppose that's the way we.
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We have the news breaking of the impeachment inquiry in the house.
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We have Trump going to the U.N. and saying that the future is for global or not for global
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is for patriots.
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He said patriots.
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I can't pronounce it funny.
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I haven't listened to him speak for two years.
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That speech beyond just its context its delivery was like a dude who got hit with a quaalude
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dart Jesus like it was very lethargic.
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See I that every time somebody describes one of his speeches I'm like maybe I should listen
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to it and then I just don't.
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It was upsetting.
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And I only listen to most of it because of Alex playing a lot of it.
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Of course.
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So you've got all that stuff.
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And then the big breaking news on Wednesday was that Alex Jones has launched his web sorry
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his lawsuits that he's been talking about forever.
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Oh that was the breaking news.
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Well that was one.
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I mean that wasn't covered in the Guardian's live blog.
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No I didn't.
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And thankfully I hope no one covers it except us.
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Not because I want to like claim the space right because I think it's a publicity stunt
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and we'll get into that as we go through it.
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There is a lot fucking go.
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Oh no that means Barnes.
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There will be minimal Barnes.
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But before we get down to any of this business here we got to take a little moment to say
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thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show and make this
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So first of all thank you so much Liz.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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Thank you Liz.
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Next Adrian.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Adrian.
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Thank you very much Adrian.
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Hyphen name.
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Hein Peter.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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No.
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So also I'd like to thank you a couple people who have signed up on an elevated level.
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We appreciate that very much.
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So first Mosconfig.
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And then apologies and thank you so much to Elaouahthain.
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Oh no.
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Oh no.
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You try it.
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You know it's not fair.
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It's not fair.
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I don't want to be this guy who can't pronounce your name.
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I want to be able to pronounce your name because I respect and love you.
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Absolutely.
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It's awful.
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Yeah.
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I think somehow I'm blaming you for this.
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I don't know.
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That's even worse.
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I'll take the blame and I will give out the appreciation.
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Thank you so much.
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Elaouahthain.
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You are now, along with Mosconfig, wonderful technocrats.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Crikey, mate.
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That's fantastic.
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Have yourself a brew.
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How's your 401k doing, bro?
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All right.
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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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We ain't making that money off that heroin.
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Why are you pimps so good?
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My neck is freakishly large.
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I declare info war on you.
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Thank you so much, Elaouahthain and Mosconfig.
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Thank you very much.
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It'd be great if you got the first one absolutely correct and then somebody on the group is
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like, it's Mascanfig.
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That'd be awful.
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But if you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like this show, I like what
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So I support the show, takes you to our Patreon and you can sign up.
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It would be lovely.
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So we're going to start on the 24th.
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But before we get to that, here is an out of context drop from today's show.
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And you know, I'm going to tell you something, this country's done.
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This country's soft.
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This country's stupid.
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This country's weak.
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Oh, Alex.
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Okay.
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Well, if you had to turn on the country.
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That's rough.
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That was, that's a harsh turn.
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That's bad.
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I thought we were doing great against the globalists and shit like that.
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That's bad news for Americans when they lose the king of Americana.
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The king of loving this country.
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Yeah, yeah.
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All you people are soft and weak.
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Well, sometimes you wind up killing the things you love the most, Dan.
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I suppose so.
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So Jordan, as we get into this, I don't have any clips of the beginning of the show because
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the first 20 minutes of it is just a pretty uninspired attack on Greta Thunberg, who I'll
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remind you is 16 years old.
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I don't understand.
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Alex spends the first chunk of the show comparing her to Hitler and talking about the Hitler
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youth.
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To be sure, Greta's age doesn't make her above criticism, but it should really make her off
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limits to this style of targeting and demonization, even if you thoroughly detest the message
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that she's putting out.
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Like, I've missed out on some prime dunking opportunities in the course of doing this
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podcast as it relates to Soph, the racist 14-year-old, or Alex's son Rex, but it's just
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not right to treat youths like that, even if you disagree vehemently about their positions.
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Or at least that's my position, and I think that's a pretty decent way to operate.
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I mean, especially if you imagine yourself back when you were 15, 16, some of the things
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that you said you'd probably stand behind, but some of it you wouldn't want to be called
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fucking Hitler youth for.
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Oh, absolutely.
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It's crazy.
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Oh, yeah.
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We've even talked very little about the Covington kids on this podcast, except in the context
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of Barnes being their lawyer, like for kind of similar reasons.
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Yeah.
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I mean, they're pretty assholes or whatever, but it's not...
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Leave that for other people.
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Yeah.
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And I don't say this because I don't think Greta can't handle it.
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You know, I'm not saying that at all.
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It's clear that she has a very strong character that I only wish I had a slice of at her age.
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And being a part of this younger online generation, I'm sure her skin is thick enough to not care
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too much about what a loser like Alex Jones says.
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It's more that this sort of behavior is the exclusive action of someone who is a monster.
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It's the sort of thing that Alex would be deeply ashamed to do.
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Were he capable of that emotion?
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And the thing that's even sadder is that he's just repeating other people's ideas.
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When our Wednesday episode came out where we went over September 23rd of 2019, I got
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some responses from listeners wondering why we didn't cover Alex talking about Greta,
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if he was complaining about all that climate change stuff through a good part of that episode.
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And I probably should have made this more clear.
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He didn't really talk about her at all on the 23rd.
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It wasn't until Tucker Carlson did a segment about her on the evening of the 23rd that
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she even really entered Alex's head as a target.
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And this opening piece on Alex's show is him just taking Tucker's talking points, escalating
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them and repackaging them for an extremist audience.
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That's really all that's going on here at the beginning.
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It's crazy.
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I was listening to the episode and I'm like, wow, we're almost a half hour into this thing
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and there is nothing happening except that.
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Yeah, Greta is fucking made of Damascus steel.
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And I watched the speech that she, the harrowing fucking how dare you speech is, oh man.
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Alex does misrepresent that stuff a little bit.
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Yeah, of course.
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That belongs in a movie, the one that we're living in where we die very shortly afterwards.
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When she was saying we'll be watching you, you know, reflecting that the younger generation
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is paying attention to what the older generation is doing and how they have every reason to
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know what they're doing and still failing to act.
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Alex interpreted that as a big brother message and it's like, she's fucking, she's talking
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about the chai comms and stuff like that was one of my favorite lines just because people
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applauded at that and I was just looking at all of them.
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She's talking about you idiots, all of the people applauding, those are the ones she's
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watching.
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We don't need to watch the guys who are actively fucking destroying the planet.
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We can see that out of our fucking peripheral vision.
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And I think that's another thing that's sort of lost on Alex is that her target and who
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she was speaking most condemningly about wasn't people like Alex or even these climate deniers
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necessarily, but the people who lack the will of conviction to do something.
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Yeah, imagine that there was an entire conference of Nancy Pelosi's.
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That's who she was talking to.
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Sure.
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So I only bring that up that this was a big chunk of the episode because we're going to
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get into stuff and it feels kind of in media res.
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You know, it feels like it's from sort of a ways into the episode and that's because
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it is.
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But I just don't have any patience for listening to him yell about how a 16-year-old kid is
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Hitler.
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I don't care.
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It's pathetic.
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We are still going to talk a little bit about some of his comments about her, but that stuff
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is flat.
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So anyway, along with attacking youth, Alex has some other stuff to take care of on this
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episode.
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Here's what I want to do.
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We have Carpe Donctum popping in about 15 minutes into the next hour to talk about the
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death of the Donald, arguably the biggest pro-Trump area or domain or realm on the Internet.
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So he's going to have Carpe Donctum on.
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Right, right, right.
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To give a good moratorium on the Donald.
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Right.
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Gotcha.
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Carpe Donctum is like really standard stuff and we'll get into a little bit of it, but
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even without listening, I knew what this was going to be about.
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When he's talking about, I'm going to have Carpe Donctum on to talk about the Donald,
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I knew it was up.
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Like Carpe Donctum has started his Meme World site and he's trying to lay claim to the legacy
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of the Donald subreddit.
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He's hoping that he can direct traffic from the people who were there to his new thing
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because there were millions of visitors to the Donald and there are not millions of visitors
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to Meme World.
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No, no, no.
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You've got almost 100 likes on one post, right?
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Absolutely.
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104 on a Ben Garrison one.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, then never mind.
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This is a doomed exercise, partially because his website sucks and partially because what
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made the Donald work had a lot to do with the infrastructure of Reddit and how it was
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designed.
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Meme World has a vastly inferior structure and it lacks the millions of people just sort
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of casually browsing the site who are the targets of the memes that would come out of
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the Donald.
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Without the unaware audience of millions upon whom you can subject your bullshit to, your
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bullshit loses any value to anyone.
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And I suspect Carpe Donkdom is going to learn that lesson the hard way.
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And Alex is too because he is really pitching in with this Meme World bullshit.
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Oh, man.
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It's like watching two dinosaurs try and drive a car.
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It's like, you guys do not belong here.
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Wrong.
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Wrong.
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Get out of that car, you idiot.
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So Alex starts talking about, you know, globalist stuff, starts ranting about demons.
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They do it.
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I mean, there's no better way to introduce this clip.
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It's just just ranting about bullshit.
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They tell you in all their Hollywood movies what they're doing.
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The main program in Tron, once all the programs bound to it, absorbed into it, gone.
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Their free will destroyed.
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Their souls devoured.
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And the mainframe is going to give all its power to the beast.
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Just like in Tron, oh, my system's yours.
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And the system of oppression is going to become a thousand foot colossus, but it has clay
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feet built on mud going to fall.
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So all you servants of Satan, keep doubling down.
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Keep arrogantly claiming you're in power.
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Look at you.
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You're fallen and ugly.
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The demons aren't too nice to you.
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You take on their form, don't you?
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And then you become nothing more than slaves.
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Let's look at Greta.
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Greta Thunberg, pumped full of more vaccines and a porcupine.
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Looking just like the Grinch, whose heart was three times too small.
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What?
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Brainwashed by her Antifa parents to hate civilization, to hate humanity, but to believe
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that she has a right to rule and to cut off the fossil fuels.
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Her Swedish Antifa parents?
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, there are pictures of them, apparently.
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I don't know if they're real or not, but there's pictures of her parents in like anti-fascist
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shirts.
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Don't even need it.
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Don't care.
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Hey, guess what?
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Who cares?
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I don't even want to bother with that.
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No, no.
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But all that other stuff is like, wait, Alex, you got her vaccination records?
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, do you have your porcupine's vaccination records is my next question.
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I easier say that because they got a lot of needles.
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He's clever.
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He knows how to make a sentence.
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Yeah, I mean, that's pretty gross, but I mean, that's sort of the level of shit that he's
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got going on as it relates to this young lady.
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And it's just, you know, it's bad.
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It's bad.
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I mean, she's, you know, he's attacking her sort of, you know, you've been vaccinated
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all this and you've been, your mind's been destroyed by these vaccines.
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You look like the Grinch.
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Yeah.
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Like that's just, I mean, that's not even great to do to an adult.
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No.
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Do you know who insults a 16 year old like that?
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Cool guy.
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16 year old.
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Oh yeah.
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Do you know who shouldn't do that?
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Adults?
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Oh, there we go.
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45 year old.
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There we go.
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Brilliant brain genius types like Alex Jones.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She's at the end that she's trying to get rid of the fossil fuels.
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She's trying to rule by destroying fossil fuels.
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Cool.
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I'm fine with that.
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I will let her rule if she can successfully destroy fossil fuels.
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She gets the gig.
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You have shown yourself to be anti fossil fuel and I need to tell you something.
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Yes, I have.
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Over the years.
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You have put yourself in league with literal demons.
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Well, yeah, I did do that.
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You may not know that, but I should warn you that Alex has some weird things to say.
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That it's almost like there's a God that put him here right when the earth starts losing
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his atmosphere, which we are.
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Lowest level of carbon dioxide ever recorded in the last century, a trace gas, not even
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one 10th of 1% and suddenly we find giant supplies of it held within the earth at the
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key time to terraform and save the planet.
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And they zoom in, jacked, space troopers dropping in, turn off, kill, humans are bad, get rid
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of everyone.
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Save yourselves by dying.
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I mean, I mean, dropping in, man, avatar-ing in.
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Sure.
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Not avatar-ing in to save the planet to kill it.
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Yeah.
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So I find this really weird because here we see Alex telling his audience that the real
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issue with climate change is that there are demons who want to stop the world from releasing
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CO2 into the air because the earth is CO2 deficient and God placed fossil fuel reserves
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into the ground so humans could find them at just the time, you know, the right time
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to save the world by burning them and polluting a whole bunch.
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That is what he's putting forth here.
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Yeah.
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Because that's correct.
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Right.
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They're jacking in like avatars.
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But see, it's weird for me because, you know, these are the ravings of a lunatic.
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Yes, that is an issue.
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Yeah, it's also weird because I thought his problem with climate change promoters was
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that they were just trying to force people to pay carbon taxes that would enrich Al Gore
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and George Soros while destroying the West.
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Now it's a plot by demons to stop God's plan to save the earth?
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This guy can't get his fucking story straight.
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It's metastasized.
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You know, it started with Soros and Gore and then the demons got their little claws in
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there and now here we are.
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As to Alex's claim that CO2 levels are at their lowest ever, that's complete bullshit.
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Scientists have been able to use ice core samples to measure the CO2 levels in the air
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from as far back as 800,000 years, which is a lot longer than Homo sapiens have been around.
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Not sure what you're saying.
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Do you mean less than 10,000 years ago?
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Let's just say that in the present day, every year sets a new record for the highest atmospheric
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CO2 levels.
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We're at levels unceded in recorded history and in order to know when the last time the
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atmosphere looked like this, scientists have just had to guess.
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It's very uncharted waters.
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Well, I mean, I remember somebody said that the Triassic period was marked by a massive
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CO2 explosion or expansion and that's why the plants were so large, which is why dinosaurs
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were allowed to grow so large.
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There's some theories.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I am assuming that we are going to become like the dinosaurs.
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Hey, that'd be good for sports.
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Can't argue with that.
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Why do you not want sports to do well?
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I love sports doing well.
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Yeah.
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What Alex is saying is a complete lie, quite literally the opposite of what the consensus
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view of every credible source I can find says.
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He's not living in reality.
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He's just promoting to his audience a fantasy where the real battle of Armageddon is over
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regulations on the fossil fuel industry.
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And you really got to ask yourself, why would someone do that?
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So I should tell you this.
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I got to about an hour into this show and it dawned on me that Alex hadn't even referenced
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Donald Trump's speech at the UN where, you know, he said that the future doesn't belong
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to globalists, it belongs to patriots, which is basically him doing Alex's show in front
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of the UN.
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Yes.
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That seemed really weird to me because Trump gave his remarks at approximately 9.15 a.m.
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Austin time.
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So there's legitimately no way Alex should be unaware of that speech by the time he goes
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on air at 11.
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It just seemed really strange to me that he's wasting his time rambling about Greta Thunberg
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and talking about like, we're going to have Carpe Donkdom on to talk about the Donald.
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Like he's just doing nothing related to what everyone else is concerned about.
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Yes.
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It's very strange to me.
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Like, I understand that when there's bad news that he doesn't want to cover.
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But this should be like triumphant news.
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It should be like, we are fucking doing it.
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Trump gave the bird to the secretary general.
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Yeah, I mean, maybe it's because if he played the clip of it, everybody go, oh, my God,
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is he dying?
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Well, you haven't listened to it.
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And Alex does play the clips the next day.
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He plays them on the 25th.
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OK.
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But it's so weird to me.
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This is his stock and trade.
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This is his business.
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I hate globalists.
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I love patriots.
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Yeah.
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Here's the president saying exactly that at the UN.
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Right.
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But isn't that in and of itself a contradiction?
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Well, no, because you get to present it as like he's going into the den of vipers and
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he's like a heroic conquering statesman there.
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You can make all sorts of this is the easiest fucking spin for him to make.
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And it's so weird to me.
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It's so weird because there's no indication until quite a ways into this show that he
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even really has heard it, knows anything about it.
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Yeah, it's very strange.
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Instead, he spends time complaining more about climate change stuff and telling a almost
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certainly fake story about his kid's birthday party.
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I have I have three daughters.
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And so there's been a lot of birthday parties.
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We usually have my parents because my parents have a big pool.
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At least the daughters that fall in the summer.
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Which is two of them is a great stand.
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There'll be all these mothers there and they'll come over and say, you know, I'm really kind
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of a liberal, but my daughter comes home and cries when she drives by and sees a new house
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being built.
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Check the animals, the bugs, the bunnies are dying.
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She feels really guilty and says she wants to die.
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And so I kind of hear what you're saying is right now.
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And then the daughter swims over and goes, look at my toy turtle.
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You know, that's a true story.
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And I hear those constantly.
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That's a true story.
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You wouldn't have needed to say it was a true story if it was a true story.
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But that explains like on our last episode, he was talking about like middle schoolers
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wanting to kill them.
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That's what that's clearly what he has to back that up.
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Yes, an apocryphal story about a mother at a pool party.
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That almost certainly didn't happen.
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Certainly.
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Also, if a middle schooler is swimming up and being like, look at my toy turtle.
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That's a problem.
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That is a problem.
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I think there are some holes in the story.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think there might be a few.
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Maybe a few.
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What liberal mom is going to Alex Jones' parents house?
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Even if your kid was best friends with Alex Jones' kids, you're not going there.
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I mean, you might just because it's unsafe.
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You might assume it's unsafe otherwise.
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That's fair.
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That's fair.
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But then you're.
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I don't even know what this conversation.
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I don't even want to try and decode what the reality of this conversation might be.
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What kind of polite conversation Alex is misinterpreting here, but whatever.
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So Alex gets around to complaining some more about Greta Thunberg.
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And this is great because this is production value on full display.
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So let's go ahead and roll the video and the audio of just a brief exchange where Trump
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comes walking into the U.N. right after she gives us end of the world rants as we are
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watching you.
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You will pay if control to central banks of all oil, all production tax, everything you
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will pay.
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This is Trump here it is.
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Look at that.
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Absolutely amazing.
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That was amazing.
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Yeah.
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We're slowing that down.
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You can't see this, but you need to see it for yourself.
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Oh, no.
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He can hear it, but we can't know.
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Or he's just playing a silent video on on his show.
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Oh, no.
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Which really is like, do you even care about doing a radio show?
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Jesus.
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Yeah.
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There's a reason I don't think we've ever played like a video.
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And I know Alex is like, I'm on all these TV stations.
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Yeah.
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I know Tom Papert runs your show.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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But but still, it's it's you should you should think about the format of what you're doing
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and not play silent videos on a radio show.
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It's clunky.
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And just to demonstrate, we're going to play a wonderful Buster Keaton short right now.
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Sure.
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Everybody stay tuned.
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This is great.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, there's conversation even on the 24th that's going around about impeachment
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of Trump.
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People are starting to throw this around.
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People are having the conversation being like, we got to do it.
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Yeah.
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What are we going to do?
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And I think and I get the sense pretty strongly that Alex is going to curtail the subject
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of actual impeachment.
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So he doesn't have to deal with any of the the murkier issues by changing the conversation
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a little.
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That's a smart move.
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I would say so.
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Yeah.
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And the news is moving so fast.
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The globalists left are all over the place calling for Trump's impeachment and his execution,
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including the former governor of Massachusetts, Bill Weld, we're going to play that clip coming
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up next segment.
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I'm going to open the phones up.
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So Governor Weld was on Morning Joe and he said it's nothing short of treason.
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Yeah.
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And we all know what happens to a traitor.
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Yes, exactly.
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It was it was along those lines.
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And now Alex has turned that into they're calling for the assassination of Trump, his
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execution.
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Hey, if a Republican wants to call for the assassination of Trump, listen, it's not my
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job to say no.
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Listen, it makes for an interesting primary.
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The GOP has their own rules now.
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So by this point in the show, we're a ways in probably like an hour, hour and a half
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into the show.
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Alex starts talking about the U.N. speech, but he still doesn't really bring up the globalist
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patriot.
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Yeah.
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Instead, he has this to say.
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I get irritated with Trump because I want to fight the globalist harder and I see how
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criminal they are and how they've gotten away with it.
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But man, no president in 50 something years has given a speech about religious persecution
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at the U.N. and he's put laws in place where churches can talk about their political views,
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talk about abortion and the Second Amendment.
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So he's reinforced the First Amendment.
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I mean, he's just done a lot.
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He's done a lot.
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Alex is making shit up.
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Well, you don't get to say that.
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Does he actually expect people to believe that Trump is the first U.S. president in
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like 50 years to talk about religious persecution at the U.N.?
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He's not even the first president since he became president to do that.
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It's total bullshit.
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All you have to do is go back to Obama's final address to the U.N. in September 2016 and
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Alex is already wrong.
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From that speech, quote, I do not believe progress is possible if our desire to preserve
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our identities gives way to an impulse to dehumanize or dominate another group.
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If our religion leads us to persecute those of another faith, if we jail or beat people
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who are gay, if our traditions lead us to prevent girls from going to school, if we
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discriminate on the basis of race or tribe or ethnicity, then the fragile bonds of civilization
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will fray.
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Right.
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So you took that for a speech about religious persecution.
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You're mistaking a speech against religious persecution.
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He said if our religion leads us to persecute those of another faith, civilization will
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fray.
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Right.
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Alex is talking about a speech for religious persecution.
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Let me read a little more of Obama's speech.
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So Trump would like to persecute people religiously.
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Obama went on to say, quote, we see this mindset in too many parts of the Middle East.
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Where so much of the collapse in order has been fueled because leaders sought legitimacy
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not because of policies or programs, but by resorting to persecuting political opponents
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or demonizing other religious sects.
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If you do literally any research into this, like literally any, you'll find tons of instances
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of pretty much every president decrying religious persecution when addressing the UN.
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But you, hit the nail on the head, Jordan, Alex isn't talking about decrying religious
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persecution, especially not as a universal issue that needs to be dealt with.
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He's praising Trump for validating his bullshit narratives about his version of right wing
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Christianity being under attack.
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That's what's going on.
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Yeah.
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This isn't about having a president who respects religious freedom.
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It's about celebrating having a president who's far more interested in the freedom of
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Christians than in all other religions or non-religious folk.
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And preferably at the expense of all other religions and non-religious folk.
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Yeah.
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This honestly couldn't be more transparent, which is why Alex can still feel like he's
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correct when he says no president has ever talked about religious oppression at the UN.
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All those other presidents were talking about all religions, which isn't religious freedom
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to someone like Alex.
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Alex is focusing on this aspect though.
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Not really even highlighting the fact that basically Trump's repeated Alex's biggest
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talking points in front of the UN, which again, I don't understand.
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Yeah.
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It's like if Alex was like, hey, not since Woodrow Wilson has somebody given such a speech
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on racial equality, and you're like, okay.
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I think he still is like operating off of like, all right, I expected to do this show
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based on the talking points from Tucker last night.
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This speech was a bit of a curve ball in the morning.
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Let's see where it lands.
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Let me feel it out on air before I go too far with it.
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Let me have my interns listen to it and make sure he didn't say psych at the end or something.
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I don't know what it is, but it's got to be something like that.
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You know, he's like, I have my talk.
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I've been burned too many times before.
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He said he was a globalist and now he's saying that then is the future not going to belong
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to him?
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Well, he was a globalist and a nationalist.
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So the focus is very largely on Greta Thunberg because again, that's what everyone needs
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to talk about.
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That's what all the right wing media has focused and decided to like attack, attack, attack.
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Cause we're adults.
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And we've come to a point where Alex is now following in the wake of people like Tucker
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as opposed to being the one who's more extreme than them.
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Now he has to wait, follow their lead and make whatever they're saying more fucked up.
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And that's not even a really good game for him anymore because there's plenty of other
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websites that do that.
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There's a whole fucking cottage industry.
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You can get, you can get fucking Scaramucci will record a video and send it to you for
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a hundred dollars of doing whatever bullshit.
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So Alex complains a bunch in a bunch of little different ways here about Greta.
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And I think that there's one piece of this that is interesting.
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One piece that's sad and another piece that's even sadder on a pettiness level.
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Okay.
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So Greta Thunberg has been rejected in Germany.
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She's very unpopular in Europe, but they force feed her as this youth believing it will make
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the youth suddenly hate their parents and get in their faces.
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And she's got Antifa parents.
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She's an Antifa member.
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We've got the photos and all the admissions.
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She's there being run by the Soros organization when she was at the UN.
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And Trump shows up while she's sitting there doing a multi hour long photo op, ranting
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hatefully.
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In fact, here's video shot literally minutes before Trump arrives in the press junket area
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and steals the show.
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Here she is threatening everyone.
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We're watching you.
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We're coming after you.
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You're killing all these people.
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Climate change.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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He lost the thread.
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They're trying to be like, Oh, what's another idea?
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I'll just say climate.
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Yeah.
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I'll just say climate change.
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So the petty part is that last part.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's that one wasn't so mad that Trump upstaged her.
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Oh, the sad part is Alex, like he has nothing to base his claims that Greta is not popular
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in Europe on.
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He's just kind of making that up.
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I don't remember her being rejected by Germany.
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German said nice.
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Did she send a text while she was at the UN?
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Just like you up?
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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Germany did not.
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And then Germany ghosted her.
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Merkel said no.
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Alex has nothing to substantiate his claim that Greta is being used to make children
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hate their parents either.
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Nothing in her speech would lead a normal person to the conclusion like that, unless
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of course the parent in question was someone working actively against climate change action
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who contributes to leaving the youth with a disastrous environment.
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Then maybe she's encouraging this kid to hate their parents.
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Dad, dad, why do you scream all day every day about how climate change is a hoax whenever
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I know for a fact that it's real and we're all going to die soon?
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It's because of Greta, you piece of shit.
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I mean, I love you, baby.
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Alex is just saying this shit to weave in that whole like globalists want to disrupt
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families narrative in anywhere he can.
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The same logic, though, could be turned back around on him.
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Like he constantly screams about Democrats being literal demons trying to destroy the
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world and how no one should associate with them.
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So what if you're a 15 year old Info Wars listener whose parents are Democrats?
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Wouldn't that constitute Alex trying to break up your family like, you know, this is a stupid
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game to play.
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Yeah, it is a stupid game to play, which is why he's winning at it.
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Right.
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Alex is also doing everything in his power to associate Greta with George Soros, which
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has been a big mission of a lot of the right wing who are grasping at straws trying to
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attack her.
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One thing that's been used in service of this is a picture of her posing with Soros.
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But that picture was photoshopped.
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It was actually a picture of her with Al Gore that someone just put Soros's head on Al Gore's
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body.
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Is Al Gore not good enough for you people anymore?
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Should be good.
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Do we not hate Al Gore enough?
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Alex's version is a little bit more about how Greta has a Soros linked handler who is
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obviously writing her speeches for her and coaching her.
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Greta has a handler?
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Who is along with the UN.
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Yeah, that's what he was saying in that clip.
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The Soros operation was handling her at the UN.
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I'm not sure what bullshit website he picked this up from, but ultimately the source goes
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back to a QAnon Twitter account called WideAwakeQArmySwissDivision.
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This account posted a collection of images of Greta with what appears to be the same
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woman, alleged to be Louisa Marie Neubauer, who allegedly works for a company called One
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Foundation, which has links to Soros.
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Soros runs it.
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Sure, why not?
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Even if all these pictures are the same person and Neubauer does work for that foundation,
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this is still super weak as a connection and doesn't do anything to prove that this is
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Greta's handler.
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In order to gauge the credibility of this source, the QAnon Twitter, I decided to take
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a look at that account.
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What do you know?
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I immediately was faced with multiple retweets of things originally posted by Jordan Sather,
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one of the big figures in the Q movement.
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This guy's in pretty deep.
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Who's Jordan Sather?
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He's a big QAnon guy on Twitter.
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I do my best to avoid any QAnon shit.
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Don't worry about it.
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Anyone who knows what's up will know who that dude is.
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This guy doesn't tweet too much, the Swiss division of the Q army, and his timeline is
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crowded with QAnon retweets and retweets of people like Paul Joseph Watson and Charlie
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Kirk.
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I did notice a whole lot of posts that seemed to be suspicious about Greta's hands, though.
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Some were about the size of her hands, which I'm not sure why that's a conspiracy.
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Others were about how she went sailing and her hands weren't sunburnt.
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It's a very strange fascination.
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And it reminds me a ton of the obsession that online idiots had after Sandy Hook about earlobe
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shapes and how earlobes proved that people were crisis actors.
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That was a really huge thing that went around in message boards, people comparing earlobes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was wild.
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Wild times.
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People just don't want to step back and look at how much work they're putting into something
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and maybe if it's a sign that they're wrong.
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Anyway, the actual thread that this image comes from, the image that was used as the
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source for sites like Big League Politics to report that Greta Thunberg has a Soros
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handler is nuts.
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This thread is nuts.
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It starts by saying, quote, a quick look at Greta and her Masonic Cabal ancestry.
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All right.
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And it includes the hashtag, hashtag QAnon.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Mysteriously, that first tweet that starts the thread isn't cited by Big League Politics.
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Oh, it's not?
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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Kind of like they don't want people to know that the source they're basing their news
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on is a random fucking weirdo QAnon Twitter account.
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Hmm.
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I wonder why they do that.
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That seems weird.
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And I wonder why that's consistent through all of the right wing websites that I found
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that use this as a source.
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No, they're serious journalists, right?
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The right wing is all about serious journalists.
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They hate fake news, right?
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Yeah.
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Why do you not?
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They despise the media that does stuff like, I don't know, hide sources.
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It's weird that you'd include, I don't know, tweet number five in a thread when the tweet
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number one has hashtag QAnon and also this is her Masonic Cabal ancestry.
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Seems like that's good, proper context.
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You would think.
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For the rest of the thread.
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You would think.
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So the thread goes on to accuse her family of being in the Illuminati because some unsourced
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list of names this guy found includes both Weisshaupt and Thunberg.
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Oh, also it includes Clark, Stewart, and Jacobs.
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All of them?
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Yeah.
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I guess if we have any listeners with those last names, congrats, you're now in the Illuminati.
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Even our streets are in the Illuminati?
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Yeah.
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So the thread gets into a couple pictures of Greta where she has one of her eyes covered
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and one it's by a shadow and another what appears to be a coin.
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In the online conspiracy world, everyone's convinced that anyone who takes a picture
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with one of their eyes covered is signaling to other Illuminati members that they're part
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of the group.
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It's one of the older and stupider elements of conspiracy message board shit and I'm honestly
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shocked to see that it's still around and anybody takes it seriously, but you know,
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there's no accounting for QAnon.
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I'm fine with that conspiracy theory if we're back in the Polaroid days where it's like
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pictures have more intent back then when there aren't as many pictures.
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Now there's 10 million pictures.
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I could pull up my phone and scroll once and I could get 10 million photos of me with one
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of my eyes covered.
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This was one of those self-fulfilling kind of things because people would have pictures
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with like one eye covered and then they'd be accused of being in the Illuminati and
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then like fashion folks and photographers started doing that, almost fucking with people.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's nonsense.
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If you sincerely buy into a lot of this stuff, you got, again, much like the earlobes, you
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got to check in.
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You got to go talk to somebody.
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Yeah, because that's definitely a thing where if I'm famous and somebody's like, oh, he's
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got that picture where his eye is covered, he must be in the Illuminati, the next thing
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I'm doing in one moment is taking a picture with my eye covered instantly.
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I will tell you, I have taken multiple pictures of myself intentionally covering my eyes for
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this exact reason.
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah.
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Why wouldn't you do that?
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This is legitimately some of the least credible bullshit I've ever seen and anybody who takes
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this as a source has some real serious vetting problems in their operation.
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Looking your way, big league politics, but that, you know, they probably call that attacking
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the messenger.
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So what about this Louisa Marie Neubauer?
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What about her?
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She a Soros handler?
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I don't know.
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Does she work for big league?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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She's a 23 year old climate activist who apparently has been at protests and events sometimes
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with Greta Thunberg.
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And to that I say so fucking what?
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So they're both involved in the same movement.
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It makes total sense that they would be compatriots and possibly become friends and work together.
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As for her working for the one foundation, I found no solid sourcing on that outside
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of this tweet, which got like 5,000 retweets and served as the basis for all of this right
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wing reporting.
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I hate these people so much.
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Yeah.
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I found Louisa's LinkedIn page and it has been updated recently, so you know, we probably
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assume that most of it's current.
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Sure.
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On it, you can find stints of her working at a group called Y7 Climate Delegation, freelancing
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for the Huffington Post and some other jobs.
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If you scroll down far enough, you'll find that she volunteers with an organization called
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One.org as a youth ambassador.
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Oh, no.
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But here's the thing, One.org is not a climate change organization.
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It's geared at eliminating extreme poverty, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa.
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Whatever volunteer work she did with One likely has nothing to do with being at climate rallies
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with Greta, let alone being her handler.
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It seems completely unrelated.
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I see no proof that there's any connection.
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The board of directors at One.org is public and Bono is in there, former Senator Kelly
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Ayotte is in there, but suspicious in his absence, George Soros.
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I didn't even know that and I could say it right now.
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One.org has their tax documents available for public review and Louisa is not a paid
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employee of their organization, I can confirm that.
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I've reviewed their financial documents and I see no evidence of Soros's heavy hand in
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the One Foundation, which isn't even their name, as the tweet referred to them though.
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It's just one action.
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It's possible that he donated some money to them.
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I would say that, sure.
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I mean, I could see that, but that doesn't prove he controls the organization and is
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running Louisa as a handler to get Greta to do his bidding.
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Why is it that so many stories that become accepted fact within the conservative right-wing
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circles are based on one asshole tweeting something that isn't true?
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Well, because there is...
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There's so many.
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Well, there's a tiny wrinkle to this that makes it look more real than what I've described
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here.
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This is a lot of the basis of it, but I was able to find one website called Europe Reloaded
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that has a slightly better bit of evidence.
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Wait, so we're talking about one.org and Europe Reloaded.
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This is all a front for the Wachowski brothers, right?
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Or sisters.
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Wachowski siblings.
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Yes.
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I don't know, possibly, but on that website, the author linked a page to a page on the
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Gates Foundation website about one.
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Yeah.
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In that post...
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The Gates of Zion.
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This is all buzz marketing for Matrix 4.
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For the next one, yeah.
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In that post, it says that Soros was one of many people who provided funding to create
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an organization called Data, which was an anti-poverty education campaign.
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Within a few years, this group combined with a number of other groups to eventually create
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one with the primary funding coming from the Gates Foundation.
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There's no reason to assume from this or any other information that I can find that Soros
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has any involvement other than being an initial funder of an organization that eventually
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became part of another organization.
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There's no indication that he had anything to do with one outside of his involvement
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in Data, which literally could have just been him writing a check one time.
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Though this is better proof than that QAnon Twitter account, this is still completely
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failing to prove that Soros has anything to do with this organization.
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Nor does it prove that Luisa has been photographed with Greta because she's a handler working
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through one foundation.
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All that is completely unfounded bullshit, and it's based on nothing more than an innate
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hatred of Soros, a couple of out-of-context photos, and an overriding desire to invalidate
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the words of a 16-year-old girl as not being her own.
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It's an intense showing of weakness, to say the least.
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It's very sad.
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It is kind of amazing that the right is still sticking on with all these people, even after
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watching them debase themselves so pathetically trying to discredit a 16-year-old girl.
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It is really pathetic.
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I think if we learned anything from the last couple years, it's that there's no consequences
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for behaving like this.
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You're right.
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And nothing sticks.
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Like, if it did, then Jack Pessobek wouldn't have ever gotten a job anywhere after his
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Pizzagate shit.
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Like, Mike Cernovich wouldn't have a career.
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Period.
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Well, I mean, maybe like way back, and then be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Your name is Mud now.
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You've shown yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But it just doesn't work that way.
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No, it just doesn't, does it?
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You debase yourself, and then people give you a job because you're slippery.
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God damn it, Dan.
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It should be harder than that.
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It's a bummer.
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So anyway, my point, largely, is that there is no evidence to any of this stuff that's
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being floated around about Greta and Soros.
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If you look into where it comes from, nine times out of 10, it's going to be that QAnon
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Twitter account.
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And the other times, it's going to be misrepresentations of one being made up of a bunch of organizations,
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one of them being Data, which Soros gave initial funding to.
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And that's fucking thin.
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Yeah.
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That is thin as shit.
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That's nothing.
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Nope.
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But even despite all that, the youth, the youth.
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What's wrong with them?
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They know that Greta's a scam.
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No.
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She's a scam.
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They disagree completely.
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They love Greta.
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The youth are really into Greta.
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Fact.
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She's a scam.
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No, I mean, like, she's really cool.
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She's a scam.
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I'm 32, and she's really cool.
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Scam.
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Oh, OK, never mind.
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You said it often enough that I now believe it.
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Right.
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And that leads, Alex, to talking about other scams.
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The young people know what the establishment is.
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They know what the government cheese is.
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They know Greta Thunberg is a mental patient.
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And everyone is rejecting her, but the very weakest minded people.
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So you go to a leftist event and they look like the walking dead and act like the walking
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dead.
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Because these are the pathetic followers, the cannon fodder, the useful idiots, the
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morons, the smucks, the dupes, the marks, the slobs, the fools, the ignorant idiots,
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the people that bought the con and keep doubling down on the con forever.
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Is there a mirror in front of them?
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How many of you know someone who bought into one of those speaker scams at the shopping
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center?
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Don't do it.
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Oh, I got these speakers.
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I got to sell them.
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They're really worth 500, but I got to get rid of them.
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I'm willing to sell them to you for 100 bucks.
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And you go, that's a scam.
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They get mad at you.
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Well, I've been in parking lots twice, once with some family that's no longer in my family
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and once with some friends and the person goes, don't listen to him.
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He says, I want you to get a good deal.
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And the person goes, yeah, I'm getting the deal.
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How many people, you know, bought into the Nigerian scam?
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I know two people knew it, knew it was coming.
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Actually three.
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One of them was I knew in business.
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They wouldn't talk to me after they got ripped off by him.
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They thought I called the Nigerians and stopped them from giving him the five mil.
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Why were you in business with this guy who got tricked by the Nigerian scam?
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God's name.
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Also, Alex very clearly got tricked by both the Nigerian scam and he bought some speakers
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in a parking lot.
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Oh yeah.
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So that's good to know.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So in this next...
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Which do you think came first?
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It's the chicken or the egg situation.
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I don't know.
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He probably got taken by the Nigerian scam and was trying to make it up.
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Right.
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Right.
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Oh, wow.
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I just lost all this money on that Nigerian thing and now here's this deal in front of
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me?
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I got to take it.
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Got to get back to evening.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So he stops complaining about Greta for a bit and because it's time to talk to the donk.
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So he's going out to break here and he's talking about the Donald subreddit.
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He's going to have Carpe Donkdom come in after the break, I believe.
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And this is weird.
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I would say that this is something that a fucked up person says.
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Okay.
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And we're talking about the death of the Donald subreddit.
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You know, it's dead.
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It's gone.
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But see, it's like these old crazy guys whose wife died.
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They don't tell anybody.
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He's got their skeleton in the bed and still puts lipstick on them.
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It's kind of like that.
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There's still folks that still got the corpse dolled up in the back and they still go in
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there sometimes on a moonlit night.
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They ignore the smell and climb on top of it.
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But the Donald subreddit is a dead carcass people have sex with.
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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I'd like to remind you this is a family show.
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What is he even trying to say?
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I'm very lost by that.
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So the Donald subreddit is a dead horse.
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No.
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Wife.
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Dead spouse.
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Dead spouse.
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Right.
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That people have sex with.
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Okay.
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Now, that is an insult or it's not positive, right?
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What is it?
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I don't know.
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So don't ask me this question.
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So I have no help for you.
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Okay.
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So then if it's if that's what it is, though.
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Then it's not hurting anybody.
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Well, there is that angle.
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I want to say this very clearly.
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When I was listening to this, I was like, if I were Alex, I would legitimately feel
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an obligation to immediately when I come back from break, explain what I meant because that's
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so fucked up as a way to go out to break.
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Yeah.
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And if that's the sort of metaphor that you come up with when you're trying to describe
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anything.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Kind of implies that that's something that's like that's on the tip of your mind.
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Yeah.
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A guy who dresses up his wife's corpse to have sex with it still.
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What?
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Yeah.
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But wasn't that the theme of Tom Petty's Mary Jane music video?
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Is that that?
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I feel like there are other metaphors you could come up with to describe a similar thing.
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Yeah.
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Like Tom Petty's Mary Jane video.
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Or keeping around your old cell phone even though it's dead.
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I don't know.
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Something like that.
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I don't think that carries the same imagery with it.
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Right.
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But it's not as fucked up.
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Right.
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Anyway.
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So this comes back from break and he gets to talking about the donk with the donk.
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And boy, this is crazy.
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They are just talking about it.
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It's exactly as I expected and predicted.
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They're just trying to talk shit about the Donald.
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Right.
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Mostly Alex.
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Because it's dead.
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Carpe Donkdom is still being a little bit diplomatic.
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But Alex is just trying to drive traffic exclusively over to Carpe Donkdom's shit.
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Right.
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And his way to do it is to completely lie about Reddit.
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That helps.
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And that's a Chinese company that gave the Donald owner, Reddit, all this money in February,
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millions of dollars.
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So you wonder what's going on?
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The Chicoms are in our elections.
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It's election meddling.
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Tencent.
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An internet based technology and cultural enterprise.
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Chinese censorship in America.
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Run by the Chinese government.
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They run all their media systems.
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And they're here.
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They don't just own Hollywood.
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So joining us is Carpe Donkdom from Mean World.
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Again, the president loves this information, puts it out.
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And I just don't know why we're going to allow the Chicoms to come do this, but it's already
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happened.
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But I'm not trying to toot my horn, but did I not tell you months ago this is how this
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is going to play out?
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And you agreed, but you had to wait and see.
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You're so polite.
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You didn't even want to warn people, hey, come over to Mean World.
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And then now it's kind of like, is it all right for us to say Mean World?
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Will we make the Donald Lords, the Chicoms that own it mad?
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I say, screw the Chicoms.
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Screw them and screw the Donalds.
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The dictator of China now runs Reddit, go ahead.
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I agree.
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That's his intro.
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Good work.
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Good work.
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He's really nailing these intros that are impossible to respond to.
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Man, I really, it is really fun to yell at people that don't exist, isn't it?
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Carpe Donkdom?
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No, the Chinese.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The Chicoms who own the Donald?
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Reddit.
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Reddit.
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Man, you get real excited.
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Yeah.
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You're like, oh, I hate them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, there's a little bit of truth behind this, but it's also a big lie.
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So in February of this year, the Chinese tech company Tencent invested $150 million in Reddit.
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And of course, that means that they've taken over Reddit and banned any Trump positive
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content.
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Of course, there's a problem, and that is that the quarantining of the Donald didn't
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happen until four months later, and Reddit was super clear that it was because people
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on the Donald were constantly posting content that was explicitly advocating for violence.
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But forget about that.
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Forget about it.
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That's nonsense and bullshit and spin.
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It was $150 million in investment from a Chinese company that is dead set to destroy memes
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and destroy Trump.
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That's what happened here.
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All right.
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Now, I'm not hugely versed on business, but how much is Reddit worth?
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I'm glad you asked.
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$150 million definitely sounds like a lot of money, but considered for a second here
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that the most recent evaluation of Reddit placed the site as being worth $3 billion.
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Okay.
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So if this investment even involves any kind of control over company decisions, buying
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in for $150 million would be approximately a 5% ownership of the company, which is nowhere
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near enough to unilaterally direct their actions.
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They have done studies, though, that show that only 5% of the electorate needs to be
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sufficiently motivated in order to instigate great change over time.
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So there we go.
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Sure.
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3% did the revolution.
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I don't give a shit.
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Also, the dumb dumb Alex Jones spin on this fails to explain that in the same round of
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funding where Tencent bought in, Reddit also received an additional $150 million in investments
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from firms like Sequoia and Fidelity and the rapper Snoop Dogg.
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He also doesn't bring up that the majority shareholder in Reddit is Advance Publications,
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and they have been for a long time.
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Advance Publications is the parent company of Conde Nast, who bought Reddit in 2006,
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though in 2011 Reddit just became a subsidiary of Advance Publications.
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The whole time that Alex has loved and praised Reddit, the entire time that Donald was spreading
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its toxic shit, their parent company was the same company that owned the New Yorker, Vanity
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Fair, GQ, Teen Vogue, and Wired.
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For real, Advance Publications is a gigantic media conglomerate.
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They own tons of local papers around the country, from Michigan to Alabama to New Jersey.
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They own Pitchfork, which recently gave Lana Del Rey's new album a 9.4.
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Alex agrees with that.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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They are still the majority shareholder.
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That wasn't changed at all by Tencent making an investment in Reddit.
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That's how children think, the way Alex is approaching this.
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Tracing absurdly oversimplified lines of causation where they don't exist.
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Anything to dodge taking responsibility for creating an environment where tons of users
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felt totally comfortable promoting violence.
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I guess.
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That's probably all that's going on here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, every time you explain -
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No, it's the Chinese!
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Every time you explain corporations and what they own and how interconnected it all is,
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you're like, oh yeah, that's right, capitalism is super bad.
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No.
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No, I don't want any of the -
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Right, so you're saying that one group also owns this group, but that group owns a subset
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of other groups that are their own independent thing all under the umbrella of this group
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over here.
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And that group is -
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I regret to inform you, there is a lot of that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, capitalism is bad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex can go fly a kite with this Chinese-bought Reddit bullshit.
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Yeah, no shit.
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So stupid.
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And the fact that that happened in February and four months later, the quarantine happened.
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You can't trace a causal link between that.
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If it happened immediately after, you still couldn't, but you could make a better argument.
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Ah, no, disagree.
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The four months makes it even more obvious that it was them, because only a smart company
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would make them wait four months to make the change.
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A stupid company would do it right away, then it's too obvious.
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My reasoning has been trumped.
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So Alex, his message largely is that they're trying to get rid of meaning by getting rid
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of the Donald.
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Right.
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They're trying to get rid of paintings, which is the most basic form of communication.
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So he gives this rousing speech about how, no, no, no, no, no, we're going to keep on
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memeing.
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Sure.
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And again, you're a trooper, you do a great job, you've helped get a lot of people over
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to MemeWorld.com so they can keep operating, but I know the inside baseball is folks are
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telling you, hey, you shouldn't even have Meme World, you know, just stick with the
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Donald or do something with us.
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Just control freaks who don't want to actually produce anything, they just want to tell us
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what to do.
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Well, guess what?
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We're going to keep fighting, we're going to keep making memes, and we're going to keep
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posting them like some micros doing September is almost over.
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Got cut off by the break.
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You hear that?
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We're going to keep doing it at, and then he didn't even get to plug Meme World, man.
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He didn't even get to.
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Very sad.
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Very sad.
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He is losing all those chops.
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Yeah.
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So he comes, he gets cut off by that break after that rousing Braveheart of Meme speech.
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Hell yeah.
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And he comes back listening to some real classic jams.
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I'm going to find me a reckless woman, razorblades and dice in her eyes, just a touch of sadness
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in her fingers, just a touch of sadness in her fingers, thunder and lightning in her
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thighs, thunder and lightning in her thighs, I wonder what he's talking about right there.
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This is a family show.
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What?
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This is a family show.
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What did you just say?
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Is Doctor Still on hold?
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Yes.
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That's a family show where we speculate about what thunder and lightning in her thighs means
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in the Highwaymen's Silver Stallion.
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Hold on, but he's not done.
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Waging war on corruption.
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It's Alex Jones.
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And we're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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Riding like the one-eyed jagged diver.
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Riding like the one-eyed jack of diamonds with the devil close behind.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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We're gonna ride.
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That's not your one eye of the Illuminati.
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That's the one eye of Odin.
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Alright.
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Okay, we got the one eye of Odin.
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That is a relief for me that the Alex and the Highwaymen weren't talking about the all-seeing
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eye of the Illuminati.
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It had me worried there for like a little bit.
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I was really kind of concerned that maybe this was an Illuminati show.
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I mean, we did learn that Alex's dad may or may not be a lifelong globalist.
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Right.
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On our last episode.
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Well, the second time they asked, we don't know what happened.
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Right.
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We know he said no the first time.
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It's heavily implied he said yes the second time.
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Yes.
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I could rest easy now knowing that instead they were talking about the Norse god Odin.
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This would probably come off as quirky bullshit where Alex is just trying to flex his completely
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surface level knowledge about some arcane subject to impress his audience into thinking
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he's a religious studies scholar.
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And honestly, that is probably what's going on if I'm gonna be completely honest.
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However, I should point out that increasingly the religion of choice among white supremacists
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is centered around Norse gods and is often called Odinism.
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According to a 2017 report from Public Radio International, there were at least six cases
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where white supremacists who identified as Odinists were convicted of domestic terror
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attacks or attempted domestic terror attacks since 2001.
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In his trial, Anders Breivik announced that he was a longtime Odinist, which brought a
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whole lot of attention to the ideology from really fucked up white identity communities.
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Fun fact, Anders Breivik named his rifle after Odin's spear, his handgun after Thor's hammer,
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and his car after Odin's horse.
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Anyway, my point here isn't that Alex is talking about Odin because he's an Odinist.
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I'm saying that Alex Jones runs a completely explicitly white identity focused radio show
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where one of his regular guests is a guy who reveres Anders Breivik, which is sort of the
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place where you might find references to Odin suspicious.
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In other contexts, this comes off as like a little bit of trivia.
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In this context, it kind of sounds like it might be a knowing wink, but it's probably
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just Alex being a blowhard.
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Honestly, I don't think that he's signaling to this community, but it doesn't look great.
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Well, what I hear is that the highwaymen are all white nationalists.
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Totally.
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That's what I got out of that.
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You see Kris Kristofferson's beard?
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White.
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Are we talking Blade 1 or Blade 3, Kris Kristofferson?
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I feel like he's had a white beard since 1963.
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What was that, the old man who fell in love with the sea or whatever it is?
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Something.
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I don't know.
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I bring that up only to be like, it's suspicious only because of the show that Alex does.
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It's a completely innocuous thing to point out like, hey, there is one eye in the ideology
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that I don't like, but there's also one eyes elsewhere.
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It's completely innocuous, but Alex has to understand that he runs a show that is very
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in line with a lot of white supremacist, white identity ideas.
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He has a guest, Vox Day, who really loves Anders Breivik, who is a long-time Odinist,
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and put the religion ideology on the map in many ways.
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It's just bad optics.
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Yeah, but also...
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I say as him talking about one eye, funny that it's optics.
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Get the fuck out.
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I shall.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I mean, he hates paganists, though, and I assume he...
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He might not hate them as much as you think.
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Yeah, well, that's fair.
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He might just call it Christianity.
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That's actually a really good point.
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Yeah.
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So Alex gets back to talking about how Reddit's owned by the Chinese, and I only play this
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clip here because it's sort of similar to things he's already said, but it's important
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because you need to nail down what he's really trying to say.
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Let me announce this the best way I can.
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Did you know that a communist Chinese-controlled tech company invested millions of dollars
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in February of this year in Reddit, and within just a month, the site was frozen and put
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in quarantine, and now has essentially been shut down?
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He's lying about the timeline, he's lying about the investment, and he's doing that
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in order to try and get any remnant that he has of that sort of meme-y crowd to move over
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to Carpe Donctum's stuff, because Alex is associated with Carpe Donctum and that makes
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him have more adjacency to where this meme stuff would be happening.
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Is there any direct connection between the two?
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I'm unaware of it, if there is.
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He comes on the show more than makes sense, but I don't think he's an employee or anything.
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No, but Alex has hit meme world really hard to the point where I'm like, is he hosting
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meme world?
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Does he have a...
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No, not that I can tell.
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I think it's just a case of this would really help promoting.
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It would really be a good advertising avenue for me, and if it's under the control of someone
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who is associated with me, that works better than this dying subreddit.
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So I think he just wants to get those millions over there, and it's not gonna happen, but
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it's pretty transparent.
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In the words of Jimmy James, that's free advertising, and that's something you just can't buy.
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Exactly.
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And one of the reasons that I think this is never going to work out is very well encapsulated
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by this next clip where Carpe Donkdom starts talking about who's creating content for meme
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world.
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Oh, no.
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This is a wild list.
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Meme world.com, the great Ben Garrison's there, so many other amazing people are there on
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the site.
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Tell us about some people that are on meme world, then let's get back into this and what's
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happened.
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I'll kind of shut up so you can have the floor.
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So we have, as you said, Ben Garrison, I've talked with the great Mark Dice, he's agreed
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to put some kind of exclusive content up from time to time.
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Myself, I'm on there as well.
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Mad Liberals, he visited the Oval Office with me, I invited him along.
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He is on there.
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We've got a brick suit, he's sort of a famous figure at Trump rallies.
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He always wears the wall suit when he goes there.
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If you are listing people and like four deep, you've got the guy who wears a wall suit to
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Trump rallies.
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He's famous.
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Oh boy.
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You have got the next New York Times.
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All I hear is the fucking Avengers.
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That is what I hear.
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Five of New York's greatest superheroes coming together to put meme world on the map, baby.
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Ben Garrison, Mark Dice, me, some other Mad Liberal, and the guy who wears a fucking wall
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suit.
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Awesome.
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I was listening to that and I'm like, this can't be promoting the site.
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This sounds sad.
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Yeah.
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This is great.
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At least learn the guy's name.
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No, you don't want to use real names.
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That's doxing.
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Fair.
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Fair.
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Fair.
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I apologize.
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So not too long ago we heard Alex talking about how he wasn't going to exist in a year.
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Info Wars was going to be done in a year.
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365 days countdown.
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And I'm pretty glad that we approached that with some caution.
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I think that we thought that there was a possibility that he was talking about real stuff, but
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more likely it was bullshit.
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And the way he talks about his sales right here in this next clip leads me to believe
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that it was probably bullshit.
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So it's a win-win-win, but I did get myself in a position where we sell at such small
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margins and people wait for sales that it's putting me into a pickle.
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So the plan is next year we're not going to do, but 40% off is our best sales and the
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prices are going to stay the same, but I just can't do it anymore.
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So he's talking about the sales that they'll have next year, which implies that they'll
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be around next year and that they will have product to sell next year.
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Also, I don't know how good an idea this is to be like, uh, we're going to be around,
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but hey, our sales are not going to be as good.
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I'm just going to let you know next year you're going to pay more for this shit.
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Prices are going up.
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They're going up.
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Yeah.
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I fucked up by selling stuff too cheap.
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That seems unsustainable as an approach.
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Yeah, that one's not good.
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That one's not good.
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So in this next clip, Alex yells a bit at Carpe Donctum about how he's lucky that the
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Chinese haven't killed him yet.
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That is good.
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Because I think we're all lucky that the Chinese haven't killed us yet.
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Sure.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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The chai comms get what they pay for.
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150 mil bought the Reddit.
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The news all spun it.
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The Chinese government bought the Reddit and they're saying, you don't have Trump on that.
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We run your country.
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You're dead.
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I mean, they kill people in mass over there that was out in the news this week.
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So you're lucky from the Reddit's owners, Xi Jinping, that you're not dead, son.
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But it's true.
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I mean, they did buy.
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It's no coincidence that within a month or so of their investment that suddenly a sub
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that has been under attack for four years suddenly just gets quarantined.
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So Carpe Donctum has every reason to know that this timeline isn't true.
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He is someone who's involved in the Donald.
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That's why anyone knows who he is, is because of that subreddit.
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He has every reason to know when the investment happened and compare it to when the quarantine
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came around.
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He knows that it wasn't within a month.
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He's just parroting back Alex's talking points because it makes a better argument and that's
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not true.
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They are lying.
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Anyway, that's the only reason I played that clip.
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I thought it was to show that Carpe Donctum is an incredible orator who has a just riveting
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speech pattern.
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I mean, he's so good that he's decided to make memes.
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Yeah.
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Alex now descends into yelling about the Chinese a bunch.
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It turns out he's made another Asian Dragon video and we're not going to play that one.
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I'm not going to just keep playing whenever he has.
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Just assume has another day gone by.
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There's a new one of him doing an offensive character.
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That's the new you've got a face for radio.
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You've got a voice for memes.
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You've got a talent level for memes.
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So here's Alex complaining a bit about the Chinese.
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But when you read the Washington Post, pull that up please, Xi must crush Trump to save
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America is the headline.
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So this is a big headline that he repeats all the time.
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And I know that it's not true.
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So I haven't really gone into it, but I've just decided what the fuck.
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Let's talk about it.
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So this is a headline for the Washington Post and Alex wants the headline to be, quote,
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Xi must crush Trump, because Alex wants the perception to be that the mainstream media
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is begging a foreign leader to destroy Trump.
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This serves as market strategy of maligning all non-info wars adjacent media.
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And you know, it works.
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However, the actual headline is, quote, Xi's choice, destroy Trump or save him and weaken
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America.
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This was not a news article.
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It was in the opinion section, which naturally is where Alex takes most of his headlines
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that he pretends are news articles.
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Just go to the opinion section, find something that sounds weird, yell about it.
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Yeah, the industry of opinion sections is entirely about making a click-baity claim,
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then the other side going blah, blah, blah, and then you writing another opinion that's
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like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And Alex's role in that is on its own a brazen act of manipulation or a sign that Alex legitimately
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doesn't understand the difference between journalism and commentary.
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And I would say that either is totally possible.
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Probably both.
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It could be.
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The editorial in question is making the argument that Xi needs to learn how to use soft power
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if he's gonna maximize his success as a world leader.
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Note, a leader, not the leader.
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That's important.
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It runs through how dealing with India, internal dissent, and Hong Kong are all examples that
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make his leadership style not one that makes China really qualified to be a government
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that the world looks on with much esteem.
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And that's probably a fair point.
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The stuff about Trump is towards the end of the editorial, and honestly, I think the headline
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is a bit poorly chosen to reflect the actual article itself.
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What?
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The argument here is that Xi is holding all the cards as it relates to Trump.
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The only move Trump realistically has or has even tried in terms of their relation is threatening
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a trade war, and Xi doesn't really care about that nearly as much as Trump does.
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From the article, quote, the Chinese people, 60% of whom spend less than $10 a day, are
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far more accustomed to economic pain than Trump's Americans, and they have no meaningful
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right to vote.
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So Xi can probably afford to absorb some economic pain necessary to push the trade war past
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election day.
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It's all presented as the choice between soft and hard power.
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The hard power route would be to crush Trump and force his hand with a trade war that would
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likely lead to a recession and diminish Trump's chances of being reelected.
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The soft power route is to make some token concessions that Trump could parade around
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and act like he's a master negotiator for getting, and as the article says, quote, graciously
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spring Trump from the trap he's stepped in.
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This would ultimately weaken our ability to negotiate further but gives Trump an artificial
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win, hence save Trump and weaken America.
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The editorial is not a call for Xi to crush Trump, and you'd only think that if you hadn't
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read the article or you have and you know your audience isn't going to.
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Either way, Alex is just completely lying about this shit in order to malign the Washington
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Post and his mainstream media rivals, but yeah, you know, I really love the people who
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write headlines.
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I'm a huge fan of a huge fan of all the really, really accurate headlines we talk about all
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the time.
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Yeah, it's trouble.
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It's trouble.
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But honestly, like the problem solves itself if people just read, like if they read the
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articles, the problem of bad headlines kind of solves itself right now.
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Granted, that's a state of affairs that'll probably never materialize.
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So it's still a problem.
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It's a problem.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Alex gets to screaming about how like the world is madness and no one cares that
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the Chinese bought Reddit.
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I mean, we got other shit going on, man.
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To be fair, no one cares that the Chinese bought Reddit because they didn't.
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They didn't.
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But even if they had, man.
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That's you know, no one you're mad that no one cares, but no one cares because the thing
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didn't happen.
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Right.
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So stop being so fucking mad.
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And then Alex turns heel on the American people.
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OK.
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Take that.
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It's done.
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We kill babies after they're born.
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Nobody cares.
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The Chinese government bought Reddit.
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That's old news.
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No, it's like, oh, so what?
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Everyone loves it because we have emasculated men.
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We have a country of little bitches and grovelers and ass kissers.
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You go out in public and you look at the average American.
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You're talking about weak, pathetic people, stupid, dumb devil worshippers.
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Yeah, that's the truth.
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I thought you loved America.
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What are you doing?
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I mean, well, this is a family show, right?
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The normal Americans are devil worshippers.
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Stupid.
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Unmasculine, pathetic cowards.
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This is this is not what you like.
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This doesn't seem like a guy who likes America much.
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You know, it sure has seemed like that for the entire time that we've been talking about
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him.
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He really doesn't like that whole America that is no, he really, really hates that constitution.
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Despises it.
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Right.
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But he really loves the one that's in his head that he would like to impose upon everybody
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else without their permission.
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That is very quite.
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Yeah.
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So he loves America.
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Asterisk the one in his brain that nobody else is aware of.
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Yeah.
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So you might have noticed that a lot of this show has been about climate change and yelling
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about Greta Thunberg.
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Yes.
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Now that with a little dunk in the in the way.
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Right.
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Which was a good diversion.
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But now we need to get back to the pressing issue of climate change.
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Sure.
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And in order to do that, Alex is like, Greta doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about.
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But I know a guy who does.
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Oh, no.
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Christopher Moncton is mean.
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I would say everybody out there, even Mark Moreno, who's advised Congress, of course,
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on the front of the carbon tax and all of it.
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And they're screeching and squawking and abuse of the children trying to tell the world's
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ending.
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So we got Lord Moncton coming in.
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We're not going to listen to much of him because I can't stand that fucking day because because
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I still have some hair left and you would prefer not to watch me rip it out in front
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of you.
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But I did like that.
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He's like Lord Moncton knows more than Mark Moreno.
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Now I'm like, that's going to piss off Jordan.
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Why?
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Well, I mean, not because he's putting him over Mark Moreno, but just because his name
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came up.
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Oh, just.
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Yeah.
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I was like, I thought you were talking about the comparison.
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I was going to be like, Moreno's my asshole.
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He's the one who knows less.
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Any reference would piss you off.
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So the reason that Alex has Moncton on is because I guess Lord Moncton has branded himself
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a Greta Thunberg expert.
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Alex says it multiple times and he does not seem to be an expert.
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He just seems like a dick.
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But before their interview gets going, Alex has some breaking news.
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Now we had you on today, very well said, Lord Moncton, to get into Greta Thunberg, who you're
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quite the expert on.
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This is breaking news on Infowars.com.
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Greta parents reported to child services in Sweden this morning.
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So that's going on.
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Early today, a private person posted pictures of her concern about Greta Thunberg for child
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abuse of the parents.
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The report was allegedly sent out of the district administrator for Stockholm and is being taken
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very seriously.
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I'd say she has Stockholm syndrome.
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Named after Stockholm, Europe.
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Nice.
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So Infowars has this breaking news article about Greta's parents being reported anonymously
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for child abuse.
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I was able to find that article on Infowars.com.
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I'm going to give you a couple of clues who the source is on this.
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And you cannot guess until I read all three clues.
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OK.
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OK.
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OK.
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First clue.
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He's taken responsibility for 9-11.
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Two.
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There aren't too many of those.
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We've got more than one, Dan.
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Two.
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He invented a fake religion around the Matrix movies.
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We've got more than one.
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Three.
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He's been recognized as Jesus Christ by both the Jews and the Vatican.
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OK.
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Well, then in that case, I know who it is.
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That's Leo Zagami.
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That's Leo Zagami.
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Alex is peddling complete bullshit from Leo Zagami as something that's real.
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All in the name of smearing and delegitimizing this teenager.
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All while he's getting ready to interview a 67-year-old fraud who pretends to be a member
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of the House of Lords.
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This is some shameful shit.
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This is a...
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Again, much like that, hey, we're going to do Black Friday sale too much early.
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You can't parody this.
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You can't make it up.
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He's about to interview Lord Monckton to complain about Greta Thunberg, and he is breaking news
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from Leo fucking Zagami.
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Yep.
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Like, what are you going to do?
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That's a mad lib.
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I don't know.
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I don't know, man.
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We're past that.
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We're past the looking glass.
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Alex is now looking at us going like, where the fuck did you guys go?
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It's a full court press against Greta, and all I can hear is that these dudes are super
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afraid of her.
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Oh, they're terrified of a 16-year-old girl.
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That's legitimately all I hear.
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So we get to the end of it, and Alex doesn't...
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The 24th.
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And Alex doesn't really talk in any substantial way about Trump saying that, you know, the
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globalist patriots thing at the UN.
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He's deflected a little bit in other episodes about Ukraine stuff and is like, ah, it's
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just bullshit, but not the newer developments of it.
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I just was listening to this, and I was like, that was an unsubstantial show.
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He got the memo that he needs to talk about Greta Thunberg, so he corrected his climate
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coverage from the 23rd by bringing her into the conversation, and then he just yelled
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with a carpe donk about the Chinese buying Reddit.
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It's a very weird show.
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I was like, that is unsatisfying for anyone.
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If you're expecting to hear Alex's take on these big news items, you did not get it on
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the 24th.
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No, what you got was Moncton.
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Right.
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So there you go.
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Moncton.
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Yeah.
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Zagami.
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Donk.
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Yep, yep.
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The three horsemen of the fuckpocalypse.
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And of course, the guy who wears a wall suit too, Trump rallies, who is really good.
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So we get to the 25th, and Alex does get into touching on the situation with Ukraine.
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For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
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We have a new giant hoax with the total proof, with the declassified transcript of the phone
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call, that President Trump did not offer pro quo quo, where you offer someone something
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so you get something back.
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Yes, pro quo quo.
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He said, I want you to buy US weapons and do us a favor in the 30 minute conversation.
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And later, he says, man, I heard about Biden and how he brags on television that he ordered
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them not to investigate his son or he'd take a million dollars away.
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That was the crime at the CFR.
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We're going to play a clip of that in a moment.
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We'll get into the specifics of this a little bit later, but just so you know, Alex is going
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hoax on this one.
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Fuck off.
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Alex is the very person who we first, when in 2015, when he's saying he's mobbed up.
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Yeah.
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He's mobbed up.
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Yeah.
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Alex, you know full fucking well what a mobbed up person talks like when they are extorting
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somebody.
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It's like what he talked like.
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It's how that memo of the transcript sounds.
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It's exactly how it sounds.
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Right.
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Alex should have trusted his first instinct on Trump for sure.
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What a weird alternate timeline.
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Yeah.
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So we'll get back to that, like I said, and in much greater depth as this episode goes
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along.
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But Jordan, this next clip is what I texted you about.
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I texted you last night and I told you, I found perhaps the most fucked up clip that
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I've ever heard on this show.
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Smolley Pirates is definitely in the running.
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That's up there.
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The one where he talked about being on RT and then it being intelligence people who
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are like trying to ask him, whoa, do you work for the government?
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Yeah, that was pretty wild.
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That was weird.
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That was weird.
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But this one is definitely up there.
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Mic down for this.
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Okay.
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Because this is crazy.
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This is only the third president that they've actually started an impeachment process on.
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You've got what?
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Jefferson Davis.
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You've got Clinton.
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Clinton.
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And then you've got Trump.
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That is mind blowing that.
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So look, there are red flags and then there are red flags.
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When a supposed scholar on U.S. history thinks that the three presidents who have been impeached
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or had proceedings opened up on them are Clinton, Trump and Jefferson Davis, you have a real
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severe problem on your hands.
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Like for one, the list is actually Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.
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So those who have been impeached for two, even that list is leaving off James Buchanan
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who had an inquiry open but was never impeached.
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But most importantly, Jefferson Davis was not a president of the United States.
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He was the president of the Confederacy.
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Yes, but no one has ever been impeached quite as hard as Jefferson Davis was.
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You know what I mean?
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Well.
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Like there's impeachment and then there's destroying a country impeachment.
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You know what I mean?
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Like he got impeached to the wall.
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That like very well might be the biggest Freudian slip I've ever fucking heard in my life.
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That is insane.
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That is bananas.
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Because that means to me, first of all, that Alex compartmentalizes Jefferson Davis in
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the same part of his brain as U.S. presidents.
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Oh, yeah.
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Which is not not good.
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It's not good.
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Same spot.
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Same little box.
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Also, it means he's really fucking stupid because he forgot about Nixon.
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I understand.
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Nixon wasn't impeached.
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Yes, he was.
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Well, they started the proceedings, the inquiries.
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Oh, is that what he's...
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He's not talking about the actual impeachment process.
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No.
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Nixon had the articles of impeachment brought to the House.
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That still qualifies in the list of things Alex was talking about.
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The point is, these are big things that he should remember.
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And he does not.
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He thinks of Jefferson Davis.
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Considering the time when Andrew Johnson...
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Andrew Johnson and Jefferson Davis were contemporaries.
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So it kind of seems obvious which one he...
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Jesus Christ.
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The...
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Oh, my God.
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He thinks that America during the time of Jefferson Davis was an illegitimate America
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and thus shouldn't count in our fucking history.
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Yeah.
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Jefferson Davis, just the president of the Confederacy.
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Yeah.
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I would say he was, I will give him this, he was the best president that the Confederacy
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ever had.
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That is true.
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He was the only one.
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Well, you know what?
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He was also the worst.
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That is true.
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But he was really good.
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And I want to play this.
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I want to play you this clip just to show you that he doesn't correct himself.
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Because you would think if he said that, he would then be like, I fucked up.
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Yeah.
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I completely fucked up.
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He does not.
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You've got, what, Jefferson Davis, you've got Clinton, and then you've got Trump.
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So the proceedings have been started.
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Will it ever get to a full vote in the House?
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Probably not now, but the next round.
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They're just getting everybody used to this right now.
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Now, Trump's approval rating went up when he did this.
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So he doesn't seem to even recognize that he said that Jefferson Davis was the president
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of the United States who got impeached, which is really fucking troubling.
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It was really fun.
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It fucked me up because originally I thought it was going to be hilarious that he was going
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to say that he meant Thomas Jefferson and that he was even dumber than possible.
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But never in my wildest dreams would I have come up with Jefferson Davis.
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And now in retrospect, it seems so obvious.
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Yeah.
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According to FiveThirtyEight, Trump's numbers did appear to make a little tick upwards in
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the recent days, but he's still looking at a net 10 negative approval rating, which is
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not ideal.
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I don't.
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But I just want to say that Alex is right.
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His numbers did go up.
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Right.
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No, I understand.
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Still sour grapes, though.
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I think in the larger context, though, that is not just not something that I don't care
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about, but something that is actively harmful if you care.
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If you care about his fucking approval ratings in the context of a criminal trial, you're
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I don't care whether or not the fucking jury likes the defendant.
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The problem is the crime.
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Yeah.
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You're not judging based on whether or not you approve of the job that the guy did.
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Right.
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You're judging based on whether or not he committed the fucking crimes.
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True.
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And he did!
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Seems that way.
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But Alex doesn't think so.
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Shut up, man.
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He already said it was a hoax.
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And here's why that hoax is happening.
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The deep state is making its move right now against our free society.
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This is a major quickening.
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And you saw that incredible speech that the United Nations yesterday by the president
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we're going to be going over today.
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That's why the system's coming after him, because multinational corporations got control
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of the U.S. and parlayed our military and economic power into building their corporate
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world government.
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So it's retaliation.
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This is all just retaliation for Trump's speech.
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Which doesn't make sense since the stuff started to come out before the speech.
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And Alex didn't seem to care much about that speech yesterday, but I guess he's seen it
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by now.
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Right, right, right.
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So now he's aware of it.
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Right.
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But what about how Trump released the memo himself, though?
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That wasn't the deep state.
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He was the one who said that he wants to release this memo.
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Wow.
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The one that clearly shows him committing a crime.
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That only heavily implies it.
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How is that the deep state, though?
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Well, because the deep state...
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I don't know.
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OK.
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I don't know.
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But actually, Alex does have a theory about the memo.
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All right.
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I want to hear that.
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Well, we'll get to it in a little bit.
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OK.
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But before we get to that, Alex, so recently there was a bit of news about a warning that
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there might be a shooting at the premiere of The Joker movie.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The superhero theater would not show it, if I recall correctly, or will not show it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
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I didn't see that, but that wouldn't surprise me too much.
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Alex believes that this is the globalist signaling that they're going to do a false flag at this
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movie.
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And he talks about this a little bit, and he does something really interesting that
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I think is worth pointing out.
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You've got a president in with a beachhead who's getting the economy back, getting the
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love of the nation back, stabilizing things, and they are desperate to crash the economy
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openly, and desperate to start a civil war, and now the Pentagon issues an emergency alert
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showing up on Infowars.com right now, that they believe Incel Antifa is going to do mass
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shootings at theaters, and that Joker is designed to do it.
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Of course it is.
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So that's his take on it.
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Incel Antifa.
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I didn't know that they were cross-pollinating these days.
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Apparently so.
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I know one of them is a non-existent, loosely affiliated group of people that are demonized
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by the right, and then the other one is a bunch of racist fuckwits.
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You're going to get shot by an Incel.
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Oh, no!
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So obviously I hope there are never, ever shootings anywhere.
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That said, I particularly hope that there aren't any shootings at any screenings of
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the Joker, because if there are, Alex is going to lose it and declare himself a prophet.
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The Army did release a warning to service people that they had picked up chatter from
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the dark web about shooting at a screening of the Joker relating to Incel communities.
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A spokesman who spoke to Gizmodo said that these sorts of alerts are a pretty common
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thing, and that it was basically just an email that got sent out, not any kind of dire warning
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or any specific threat that anyone could take action on.
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They just advised vigilance.
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There's nothing in that Army's email or the FBI's statement on the dark web chatter that
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would lead anyone to believe that this has anything to do with anti-fascists.
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This is specifically about Incel groups, but what Alex is doing is he's trying to make
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a compound epithet in order to associate Incels with Antifa in his audience's mind.
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He does this regularly in order to demonize groups that he's opposed to, most notably
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with his attempts to make the LGBTQP thing work, trying to reflect his completely erroneous
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claim that the LGBTQ community had adopted pedophilia into their ranks.
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This is the level of shit that Alex is working with these days, just trying to create epithets
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to demonize groups just linguistically.
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It's really pathetic.
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It's a sign of not really having much gas left in the tank.
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I'm just confused as to why he thinks that would be a good idea, considering the Incel
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community would care far more than the quote on Antifa, because at this point, anybody
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who gives a shit is going to give a shit about what the right wing says about Antifa.
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But the Incels are far more likely to support Alex.
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They're on his team.
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There might be some of them in the Donald.
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You know?
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There's some.
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There's so many Incels.
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That community is like for him.
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Why is he maligning them?
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Maybe.
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Because they would be maligned by being compared to or, you know.
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Because Alex couldn't handle having them as his fans.
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They're not masculine enough.
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Right.
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They don't ascribe to his ideas about virility and the need to reproduce being so central
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to what he wants his people to be.
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Yeah.
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Now that you say that, I can see that.
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He doesn't give a fuck about alienating them.
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But it's still just dumb.
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This is all stupid.
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So Alex finally, after, I don't know, I would say probably about a half hour or so, realizes
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that he said that Jefferson Davis was the President of the United States.
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And he comes back to that.
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With impeachment in U.S. history, technically two people have been impeached.
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Two others have had proceedings began against them.
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And that fourth one is Trump.
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So we're going to be looking at all of that.
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Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and others.
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I said, Jeff Davis, for some reason.
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That's the Confederate president for some reason.
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I'm teleprompter free, folks.
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Sometimes it comes out wrong, but not on purpose.
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He said it for some reason, for some reason, for some reason, for some reason.
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That's hilarious that he would even say not on purpose, right?
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For some reason.
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Not on purpose.
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That's worse.
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I didn't mean to tell you what's going on in my brain, and that's all Confederate shit.
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Yeah.
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I didn't mean to do that whatsoever.
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That's worse.
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That was not on purpose.
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It was a completely muscle memory reaction that I had deeply internalized the President
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of the Confederacy as being part of the lineage of the United States presidents.
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Yep.
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Alex.
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Oh boy, Alex.
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That is great.
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Oh man.
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So I promised you we would get to Alex's take on the memo, the whole Ukraine situation.
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What do we got?
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It's not good.
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You know, Trump said the Democrats up, right?
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Sure.
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Now Trump wants the whistleblower to testify before Congress.
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It'll all be an excuse to bring out Joe Biden publicly saying he committed massive crimes.
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Cool.
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Four billion dollar company turned over to his son.
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Millions paid to his son, but that's nothing.
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The shareholders transferred partial ownership to a new board of directors.
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Both top Democrats shitting on the board.
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And so, oh, this whistleblower puts in the complaint, then the head of national intelligence
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says that's not a legitimate complaint.
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Nothing long was done.
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Democrats go crazy.
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Trump says, I'm not going to release it.
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Please don't throw me in the briar patch.
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They throw briar rabbit who lives in the briar patch in to the briar patch.
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This is not level four chess.
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This is just the ways you set people up.
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What a shock that the reference that he comes up with to describe this situation is from
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the song of the South.
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Now, generally I would give it a pass and I would say like maybe he went to splash mountain
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or something like that.
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But he just said that Jefferson Davis was a president of the United States and I've
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heard David Knight talk at length about his fondness for Song of the South.
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So I have some questions.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh boy, that's not good.
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No, it's boring and offensive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, after, after work, they both go see a minstrel show every night.
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So, you know, Song of the South is not racist.
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Jesus Christ.
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Thanks David.
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So Alex's conspiracy theory here is that Trump was playing games, trying to get this whistleblower
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to testify, which had opened the door to talk about the Biden family's involvement in Ukraine
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and Joe Biden's involvement in the firing of Ukraine's former chief prosecutor, Viktor
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Shokin.
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The main problem with this theory is that all that information is already very public.
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James Risen wrote a story about Joe's son, Hunter, being involved in a sketchy business
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in Ukraine in 2015 in the New York Times.
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And in May 2019, right wing sites were already aggressively circulating the accusation that
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Joe had gotten the prosecutor fired in order to bail out Hunter, who was involved in a
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sketchy business in Ukraine.
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The idea that Trump needs a whistleblower to testify in order to get this information
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into the open is fucking absurd.
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It just makes no sense.
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Alex's main piece of evidence that he plays to back up this claim, that this is secretly
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all about Biden, is a clip of Biden saying that he threatened to withhold a billion dollars
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in aid if they didn't fire Shokin.
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And that is a real clip.
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However, what's missing is context.
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Here are the parts of the story that are true.
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Joe Biden did work to get Viktor Shokin fired, and Hunter Biden was involved in a sketchy
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business in Ukraine.
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The rest of this is a right wing narrative that is completely fabricated.
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Joe Biden is many things, most of them not good.
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But in this case, anti-corruption experts agree that he was in the right to threaten
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to withhold aid unless Shokin was fired, since Shokin was deeply corrupt and was using his
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office to stall and avert prosecution on very serious cases.
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One of the big prosecutions that Shokin was stymying was that of Mykola Zoshevsky, who
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ran Ukraine's biggest independent gas company, Burisma.
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This was a bit of a mess, since Zoshevsky was also Yanukovych's environment and natural
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resource minister, which you could imagine could introduce some prime opportunities for
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corrupt dealings.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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So he's the head of the energy conglomerate there, as well as the guy in charge of the
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environment?
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That's...
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And natural resources.
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Man, that is crazy.
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What kind of ridiculous, backwards-ass country would ask their fucking regulator to be regulated
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by the...
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That'd be crazy.
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That'd be fucking...
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What idiots.
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So, Shokin would not investigate or prosecute cases like that, which is what Biden demanded
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in exchange for the delivery of this aid.
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So now, the story in the right wing media is that Biden got Shokin fired in order to
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protect his son, Hunter, who, like I may have mentioned, was involved in a sketchy business
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in Ukraine.
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I should probably tell you that the sketchy business in Ukraine that Joe's son was involved
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in was none other than Burisma, the very company that Joe was insisting Shokin be fired for
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not investigating.
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The narrative completely falls apart when you realize the actual pieces that were in
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play and the factors that were involved.
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Now, many people have theorized that Burisma's hiring of Joe, I'm sorry, Hunter Biden might
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have been an attempt to shield the company from possible anti-corruption crackdowns,
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but there's no evidence that that's how things played out in the real world.
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So to sum things up, I'll quote from an article in The Intercept, again, written by Ryerson,
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where he interviewed Daria Kalunyik, who is the founder of Ukraine's Anti-Corruption Action
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Center.
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Quote, what I'm pissed off about is that Shokin, who is totally corrupt, who undermined the
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reform of prosecution and reformers, and who didn't want to investigate Zoshevsky, now
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appears in this New York Times article as the hero who wanted to investigate Zoshevsky
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and Burisma and who suffered because Joe Biden demanded to dismiss him because of his willingness
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to investigate Burisma, which is absolute nonsense.
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Trump absolutely did not set up Democrats or Biden.
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And if I had any faith left in the process, I would say he's in very serious trouble.
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And this weak shit is the only spin that they have left because you got a lot of really
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bad-looking variables.
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But I've been, you know, we've done this too many times over the course of the last two
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years for me to be like, aha!
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No, anytime somebody, I'm done with people who are like, this would take down any normal
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president.
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And it's like, no, this would take down a president.
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This cannot take down the fucking criminal terrorist enterprise that the GOP has turned
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into.
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The president has nothing to do with how corrupt and all their fucking, well, I mean, yeah.
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But he's just the he's just the manifestation of all of the depths which the GOP has fallen.
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So I've read what's amazing about this is that for the first time, I think.
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This one in particular, what's changed for me is I think there are at least a few very
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smart people in the GOP power structure who read that transcript and heard that memo and
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did the whole thing and were like, oh, no.
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We tricked ourselves.
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Fuck, now we believe the shit Fox News says?
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No, we were using that to trick the dumb, poor people.
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Now we're believing it?
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I, yeah, yeah, it's, he thinks that Biden, he believes in this shit?
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It's a bridge too far, I think, for, I hope, I hope, I don't know.
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I don't have, I don't have a whole lot of faith left.
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I have some flicker sliver of it, but I hope that it's enough to like really jostle out
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of like believing the bullshit line.
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I really hope it is because it's pretty clear some of the factors that are in play here
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from the reporting that has come out about and the whistleblower report just got released.
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Yeah, I read that.
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I read that as well.
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And there, you know, what's in there?
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It matches up with reporting that had come out that prior to the phone call that Trump
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had with the Ukrainian president that he had, it specifically put a hold on aid prior to
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this phone call.
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Yeah, not after, not during, not a threat, a preliminary, this is our beginning bargaining
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position.
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Which it sets the stage for the phone call and clearly there's messaging that he wants
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an investigation of Biden and his son and this bullshit.
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So like all of these things, a reasonable person would look at that and be like, this
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needs so like, I don't want to draw a conclusion, but there's enough here that really needs
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to be sorted out.
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This is untoward.
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And if allowed to stand is just so suspicious, like you can't.
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Oh no, I mean not even the stuff that's suspicious.
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Like there was a literal violation of the emoluments clause in the memo.
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But again, it's the one that they're releasing to prove his innocence.
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It's a memo, not a transcript.
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It's a literal.
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He might not have said that.
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That might've been a plug.
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That might've been a plug that, uh, that Trump slipped in as, now that would be fourth dimensional
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chess.
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The Ukrainian president didn't say that Trump threw it in as his words in order to buzz
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market Trump hotels.
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That might be true.
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It might also still be against the emoluments clause.
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No, that was also reading that, reading that memo was very much like, is, is Stevie P's
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right in the Ukrainian president's lines here?
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The dialogue on that is so clearly, Steve Pacenik, like literally going like, oh, how
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do we get him to pay attention?
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We flatter the shit out of them.
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What do we do?
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We lie to him and we tell him all this shit.
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The guy, the president of Ukraine is, is a fucking comedian who played presidents on
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TV.
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Of course he can pull that shit off.
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Yeah.
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It's, uh, it's troubling.
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It's all just real troubling.
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That's my feeling, largely speaking.
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It's the, it's the sign that every other country thinks Trump is what we all should, if we
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don't already, which is a fucking pathetic, weak willed, tiny little baby who if you stroke
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his ego for two seconds, will do whatever you want.
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It becomes, uh, yeah, just like a slot machine, get what you want.
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Exactly.
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It's, uh, it's, it's a mess.
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But again, like I, like I was saying, I look at all the available evidence and I see like
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real, uh-oh, it's a real, uh-oh kind of feeling so, uh, but you know what, like we have a
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lot of feelings about this and a lot of the indications that are coming out aren't good
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and make it look like there's probably real bad thing here, but Alex is pretty confident
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that everything's cool.
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Oh, okay.
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Good.
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And here's why.
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What Trump said last week, you're all so foolish left.
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Do you think I would ever do anything illegal over the phone?
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Plus I don't do stuff illegal to begin with.
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I'm a straight laced guy.
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No.
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Straight shooter.
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That's how you don't go to jail.
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It's old saying you can't con an honest man.
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You can easily con an honest man.
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Those are the easiest people to con.
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I think all stories of cons are run on honest people.
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It's almost entirely honest people.
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Not all of them.
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No, you can con.
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You can con quite a bit.
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You can con an honest man, you can con a con man.
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The only people you can't con are people who don't want to talk to you at all.
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Right.
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That's difficult.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Alex believes that this is all not true because Trump said, I don't commit crimes
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on the phone.
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Which even in the fucking whistleblower complaint, it shows that he's committed crimes on the
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phone before.
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multiple times.
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The government has an entire, like they have, it's not even, it's a routine now for them
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to listen in on a conversation and be like, Ooh, shit, there's a lot of crimes.
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Let's go put that in the classified database.
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That's crazy.
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He doesn't commit crimes on the phone.
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He said, so case closed.
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Oh, okay.
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Nevermind.
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So Alex needs to center this around Biden and that all this is, is projecting onto Trump,
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the crimes that Biden committed so that they could deflect from the fact that he committed
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those crimes and try and take out Trump.
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Right.
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That's all this, this whole game is and it's sort of encapsulated in this next clip.
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He's at the council on foreign relations on national television.
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That's Biden.
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Bragging.
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They investigated my son.
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If I told them, if you don't fire that prosecutor, I'm going to cut a billion dollars out of
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a package.
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Now, it's important to point out that in the clip that Alex is talking about, he never
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says because you're investigating my son, right?
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That's Alex's editorial theory, bullshit being applied to the actual quote, but he's presenting
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it to his audience as if that's what Biden said at the CFR.
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Yeah.
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He didn't really divorce those two.
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Did he?
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Oh, he didn't.
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And it's almost like he did that on purpose too.
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I think he did.
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That was half the aid every year to Ukraine.
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Now think about that.
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Think about that.
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Then they turn it around in the media that Trump said, I'm going to withhold aid if you
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don't rehire that prosecutor.
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When all Trump said is I heard about this, it's a terrible story.
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Is that true?
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Can you look into that?
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Well, he better be doing stuff like that.
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I'd hate to see that investigation not be open.
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Oh, that'd be terrible.
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Some would be awful if something happened to such a lovely country.
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You know, you need that aid, everybody.
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And we love giving aid to people.
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Right.
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This is such bullshit.
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Oh, yeah.
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Anyway, this next clip, Alex plays the actual clip of Biden at the Council on Foreign Relations.
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And again, I don't care to defend Joe Biden.
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I'm not into him at all.
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I don't care.
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But this is a person who's being unfairly attacked in this case and listen to this clip
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of him at the CFR and like try and find anything necessarily wrong with what he says.
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All right.
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Here's Biden a year ago on national television.
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And that's what Trump says.
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He says, you know, Biden's bragging about this on TV.
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It's really disturbing.
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Can you look into this?
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I mean, if he wasn't doing that, I'd say this guy's got a problem.
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But instead, he's out there like a horse, like a boss, doing exactly what he should
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be doing.
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Hallelujah.
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And it's got these crooks scared.
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Here is Biden.
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And so I got Ukraine.
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And I remember going over convincing our team or others to convincing us that we should
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be providing for loan guarantees.
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And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to keep.
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And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee.
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And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action
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against the state prosecutor.
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And they didn't.
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So they said they had it.
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They were walking out to press conference and I said, I said, I'm not going to we're
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not going to give you the billion dollars.
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They said, you have no authority.
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You're not the president.
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The president said, I said, Colin, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
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I said, you're not getting a billion.
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I'm going to be leaving here.
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I think it was what?
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Six hours.
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I looked.
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I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
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If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.
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So we don't know who the enemy is.
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It's those sycophantic people like Richard and Haase and the other sitting out there
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preening all kissing each other's ass while they preside over the gang rape of America.
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So there's nothing in there that matches up with Alex's narrative.
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He didn't say in any way that I did this because my son was working at a sketchy company in
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Ukraine.
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He didn't do that.
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He's not saying that he did it to stall a prosecution.
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That's bullshit.
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That's complete spin and nonsense.
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And specifically, he's saying that they were the ones who forced him, like the deal was
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already done.
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He was never, he didn't plan on doing any of that.
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That was already negotiated in advance.
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They just changed the deal at the last minute and he went, no, that was it.
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And any kind of investigation that's done, which I think is always appropriate if they're
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done fairly, is going to reflect this.
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This is a Hail Mary desperate attempt to create cover.
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The only reason you do that is if you know you need to cover something.
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And that's probably what's going on.
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Well, this is I think that last moment we have for so many people on the Fox News media
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blitz of like, this is the when push comes to shove.
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You're holding up a memo of Trump saying, I committed a crime.
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And you are putting it in people's faces and saying, see, he didn't commit a crime.
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For people who love to yell about 1984 all the time, it's interesting.
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It's it's a cliche.
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We live in a cliche.
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And this is that last moment before it's like, there's no coming back, guys.
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Now you believe whatever the fuck they say.
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Yeah.
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If he can put an apple in your fucking mouth and say it's an orange and you're like, I
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love this orange.
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Then you're fucked.
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Yeah, you're done.
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I agree.
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So Alex now gets Barnes on.
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And I will say this.
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Barnes still sucks.
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Good.
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I will also say this.
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Alex has his priorities straight because he's having Barnes in to talk about how he's
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suing people.
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And the lawsuits are finally happening.
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But Alex, like I said, has his priorities straight.
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I'm on the edge of my seat.
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Constitutional lawyer, criminal lawyer, First Amendment lawyer Robert Barnes is with us.
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In studio next hour, then he's going to host the fourth hour.
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We filed suit on the Young Turks and others today.
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That's very important.
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We all go on the offense and we had to do it.
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But it's got to take a little bit of a backseat to the attempted impeachment, that epic speech.
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I mean, this is the real fight for the heart and soul of America.
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I would say that that's probably an accurate reflection of what you should be covering.
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You're on petty bullshit or the deterioration of our country.
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I do like that it's really close.
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It is not a distance.
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Like that was neck and neck finish right there between am I going to talk to Barnes all day
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about how we're taking the Young Turks to court or yeah, the world's on fire or whatever.
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It's pretty crazy.
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So I need to say this really quick just off the top.
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On the off chance any influential media people listen to our show, which they do not, I need
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to say this.
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Please do not cover these lawsuits.
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As someone who has a pretty good handle on Alex's current situation in life, it's hard
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not to see these as an attempt at a grand publicity stunt and further as an attempt
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to obfuscate his main Sandy Hook lawsuit.
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It's my feeling that people would be wise to leave these cases alone, let them run their
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course and not give Alex exactly what he wants, which is tons of coverage of these cases even
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if the coverage is mocking him.
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He needs an inflow of people to his site in order to be potential customers.
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No matter how he gets that inflow, he doesn't give a shit and this stuff reeks.
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Alex sued the Young Turks, Brianna Wu and Andrew Kimmel on Wednesday and I've read the
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complaint and my first thought is, man, this thing was written by Robert Barnes.
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Usually when I read legal filings for this show, they're very dry, really formal and
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by the book.
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This one is not.
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He let the crowd vote on how he was going to write each paper.
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It does include Barnes' big catchphrase a couple of times, which is, of course, lies
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and libels.
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Oh, God.
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One essential problem with this filing is that Barnes' argument relies on a conspiracy
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theory.
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From the filing, quote, parents of school shootings sued Jones' employer and Jones.
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Until the suit was brought, hackers and cyber criminals ideologically aligned with the defendants
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tried to plant child porn on computers of Jones' employer during a time period designed
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to be unwittingly, quote, unquote, discovered by lawyers involved in the case by using terms
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in the emails that had been ordered produced by court-ordered discovery.
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It's very clear that Barnes is heavily implying coordination between the people who sent Alex
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the porn and people suing Alex about Sandy Hook.
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I mean, he put the word discovered in quotes as if to say there wasn't a real discovery
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and that the lawyers knew what they'd find because the hackers were their ideological
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allies.
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All right.
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Here's how this here's how we go.
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Let's let's role play this real quick.
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OK.
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All right.
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Uh, so here's what happened.
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All these people, shadowy band of hackers, they got together, they snuck child porn on
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to the computers at the behest of and I'm not going to say who, but there happens to
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be another group of people suing Alex involved.
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I'm not saying it's them.
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I'm just saying they're involved.
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And it was at their behest anyways.
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So it was all of them.
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It was all that.
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We got to take down the young.
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This is completely unfounded and unproven conjecture that he's making.
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No, he doesn't.
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Oh, no.
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OK.
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And that implication doesn't just pop up once in the filing quote during the litigation
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period Infowars corporate email accounts were attacked by online cyber criminals ideologically
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aligned with the defendants, with spyware and malware claiming to be Sandy Hook related
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emails by including Sandy Hook terms in the emails hidden and embedded in the emails.
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The hackers sent to various Infowars email addresses were images and videos of child
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pornography.
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The emails were never opened by anyone at Infowars.
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The court in the Sandy Hook case requires Infowars required Infowars to turn over any
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and all emails that included any references to Sandy Hook.
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It appears the hackers who tried to plant the emails on Infowars servers were aware
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of this discovery process and deliberately used Sandy Hook terms in the emails to create
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a false controversy.
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This seems incredibly speculative as information to be included in your legal filing.
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The basis for framing Alex as a pitiable victim is being laid out as an implication that there's
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an awareness that this setup, that it existed between the plaintiff's counsel and the hackers,
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whether formal or not.
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There's this idea that's being presented here and it's just, it's pure speculation that's
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meant to obfuscate the case.
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As always, I'm no lawyer, but this seems deeply irresponsible as a way to frame your legal
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complaint.
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So what is his, what is he asking?
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What?
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What, with the lawsuits?
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What does he want?
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They want a trial against these three defendants at least.
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The Young Turks, Brianna Wu and Andrew Kimmel.
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For what?
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For saying that Alex sent child porn to the families.
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Oh, okay.
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That's a libel.
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Yeah.
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It's a defamation.
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Gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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So now that it's established that Alex is the victim here, what these folks are being
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sued over is headlines and statements that Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook families.
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On a purely technical level, that statement doesn't seem to be inaccurate.
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However, Barnes' big move on page three of the filing is to argue that Alex didn't send
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anything.
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His employer, InfoWars, turned over emails to the plaintiff's lawyers, to which I say
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turned over is the same thing as sent, and Alex Jones is the owner of InfoWars.
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So I feel like that argument might be a little thin.
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We are one tiny step away from, his name was in all caps, so it's actually the state's
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Alex Jones.
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It's not Alex Alex Jones.
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From what I understand, Barnes might have some sovereign citizen ideas about taxes.
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He's a little sovereign citizen-y.
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He might be.
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Okay.
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So we can look-
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We might expect to hear that.
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We might expect to see him in his meteoric rise, only to be followed shortly after by
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spending 10 years in jail for tax evasion.
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Who knows?
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Gotcha.
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The only exhibit in the document, as evidence, is a screenshot of a tweet from the Young
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Turks linking to a video titled, quote, Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook parents.
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There are no screenshots of anything related to Brianna Wu nor Andrew Kimmel, but I think
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there might be another thing in this document that is a gigantic red flag.
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One thing I find particularly troubling is that the defendants listed in the case are
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the Young Turks, Brianna Wu, and Andrew Kimmel.
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However, in the nature of the action section of the filing, the specific details about
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the Young Turks and Brianna Wu, what they did, it's explained, but there's nothing about
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Andrew Kimmel.
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There's instead a complaint about Mark Fullman from Mother Jones, who's not listed as a defendant.
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What?
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One gets the sense that Barnes didn't edit this thing, or maybe he meant Mother Jones
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to be a defendant, or he forgot to put in that part what Andrew Kimmel did.
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I'm not sure.
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It's very confusing and probably not a good sign.
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This lazy motherfucker.
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That is sad.
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I think there might be some implication that Andrew Kimmel wrote for Mother Jones, but
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why is there stuff about somebody else in the nature of the action part when Andrew
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Kimmel is the defendant?
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I don't understand.
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Yeah.
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It seems sloppy.
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It seems such that same, like the Republican talking, or the White House talking points
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were accidentally sent to the Democrats.
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We're in a level of criminal mastermind that is just absolutely stupid.
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They're all so fucking stupid.
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Oh yeah.
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It's even more of an insult.
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So here's some random thoughts I have about this case that I think it's going to be tough
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for Alex to win these cases.
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One, in claiming that this is defamation, Barnes tries to argue that this has negatively
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affected Alex's reputation.
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I think that's going to be insanely hard to prove.
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For one, because Alex's reputation is shit.
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And for two, because Alex, I remember him saying on the air that he was doing better
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after the porn attack.
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Like how that woke up the audience to show how evil the media is.
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So I think that there are things from Alex's show that could be used very easily.
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I was like, well, this didn't damage him.
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He said that he's doing better.
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Yeah, there is, in a certain sense, his reputation so low among the rest of the world.
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It could only be raised by actually being the guy who sent child porn to these people
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amongst the people who follow him.
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And the second thing, in terms of the specific statement, quote, Alex Jones sent porn to
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child, sorry, to Sandy Hook parents, like if you accept that Infowars is owned by Alex
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and the lawyers worked for Sandy Hook parents, I don't think that's technically a false statement.
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Like whatever the Young Turks headline, like it doesn't necessarily imply that Alex knew
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what was being said.
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It doesn't imply intention.
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And I think they're gonna have a really hard time arguing that this is a defamatory statement,
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even if it really feels defamatory to Alex.
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Then third, when we covered this story, it was my position that saying Alex sent this
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porn was a bit of a sensational headline.
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I thought, you know, it was arguably probably technically true.
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It still probably didn't capture the reality of the story.
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I took the position that it wasn't a good headline, since there's a broader story and
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that was probably kind of clickbait behavior.
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But I don't think you can sue someone for that.
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And if you can, Alex better go scrub literally all the content off Infowars, because something
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he does quite often is post sensational, unprovable headlines about people that are meant to damage
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their reputations.
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Consider his big piece that we talked about earlier, comparing Greta Thunberg to Hitler.
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That's just one example.
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I think that if he wins these suits, which he almost certainly will not, they won't even
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make it to the courtroom.
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No, absolutely not.
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They'd be tossed out.
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He kind of opens himself up, though, to action from literally anyone he's written a headline
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about, which could be a real fucking problem.
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This would be really chilling, even to his own ability to operate his business.
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This is a stupid idea.
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The person who would be most damaged by him winning this lawsuit is him, somehow, also.
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Right.
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So it's my feeling that this is a gigantic attempt at a publicity stunt, meant to get
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Alex more attention and hopefully raise funds for Infowars.
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Because the suits are probably going to be inevitably thrown out of court, or he'll withdraw
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them, I don't think this is going anywhere.
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Further, it really feels like this is an attempt to portray Alex as a sympathetic figure in
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the context of something related to Sandy Hook, in order to sway public opinion before
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his actual trial begins on that issue.
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I recommend actual media outlets leave this thing alone and let it play out its course,
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as much as it might feel really fun to dogpile and jump in and make fun of him.
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I do think that that's his goal.
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Let's all just let him go to the elephant graveyard and die there.
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We don't need to drag him out to kick him every now and again.
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It would seem wise.
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So he gets to talking about Barnes, and true to form, he does think that his lawsuits are
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secondary to the impeachment and the Biden-Ukraine stuff.
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And so he talks to Barnes about this Biden video that Alex has from the...
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Do you mean the smoking gun?
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The CFR.
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Yeah.
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They actually say it is that.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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God, I hate these people.
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The CFR video is a smoking gun.
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I'm making fun of you.
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Well, you look at something that's an actual smoking gun.
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Stop it.
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As they said, the transcript is going to be a smoking gun.
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The actual smoking gun is there, Joe Biden saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor,
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you don't get the billion dollars from the U.S. government.
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A prosecutor who was involved in potentially investigating his son's...
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And that's quid-co-pro right in front of him.
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And from a criminal case perspective, if I was defending Joe Biden, that would be almost
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an impossible thing to overcome.
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No, it wouldn't.
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It's very easy to overcome.
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But notice the language that Barnes used there.
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He described Shokin as a prosecutor who was, quote, involved potentially in investigating
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Biden's son.
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Even Barnes knows that there was no investigation into Biden's son that Joe is trying to curtail.
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But the optics are so important here.
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You got to present the idea that there was or that could have been, bae.
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This is shameful shit.
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And sincerely, when this is all said and done, I hope Barnes ends up disbarred.
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His behavior on Infowars over the past couple of months has been a complete disgrace to
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his profession.
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He is not operating ethically in any sense.
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Oh, no.
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This is insane.
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Yeah.
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It does kind of seem like he's lost his mind a little bit, too.
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Well, he's trying to create an evil SPLC, so yeah.
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I would like to know the timeline on when Barnes just fucking flipped.
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Maybe after defending Wesley Snipes.
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Yeah.
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You think so?
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Well, how long is he...he didn't go on the show immediately after starting to work on
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Alex's lawsuit, right?
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I think it was pretty close.
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It was pretty close?
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Yeah.
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Because even before he started defending Alex, he defended Cassandra Fairbanks, Chuck Johnson.
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And then he was just on the...and then he came on the show.
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I think he was part of that, the attempt at that grift.
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It wasn't too far off from when he started defending Alex, too.
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He became...now, granted, it's grown and he's on all the fucking time now.
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That wasn't the case initially.
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No, yeah.
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But, yeah, he's always seemed to...you know, he wants the spotlight.
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It does seem like Barnes is trying to live out this reality TV show star life, where
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he's like, he got some attention and then all of a sudden he got addicted to the attention
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and now he fucking loves it.
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He's really full of himself.
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He thinks he's a great broadcaster on Info Wars 2, and eventually it's all gonna disappear
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and he's gonna wind up making five grand for an appearance at a bar on a Friday night.
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That's what's gonna happen, Barnes.
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Which is why he needs to set up this evil SPLC.
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Yes, yeah.
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You gotta...yeah, that's true.
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So Barnes is real stupid about this Biden tape being a smoking gun, which makes this
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next clip even more funny.
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I'm thankful for this wonderful crew.
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I'm thankful for my family, or good friend of mine now, Robert Barnes.
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He can get on any subject and he knows all about it.
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Because you actually eat all this stuff, and I know when somebody's BSing and he's got
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a better memory than I do, of course.
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So I love it, I love it.
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He can talk about anything, he sounds like an expert, and I know when people are BSing.
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Let's look at all of your old guests, Alex.
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Let's look at how many strikes you have in that category.
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So sad.
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He never knows when someone's BSing.
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Yeah, that is trouble.
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That is trouble if you still believe that you know when somebody's BSing, especially
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after you haven't let Pechenik...you've noticeably left Pechenik off your show for a long time,
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which suggests that you also know you are not good at telling when somebody's BSing.
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And you just had Carpe Donkdom on, bragging about talking to a guy who dresses up as a
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wall.
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Exactly.
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Great.
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Great.
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So Alex talks to Barnes about this lawsuit, and Alex turns it into a real heroic endeavor
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that he's engaged in.
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But I think if you listen to this full clip, you kind of get a sense of what's going on
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here between Alex and Barnes.
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I really think that it's kind of, as time goes on, it becomes so much clearer what their
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relationship is.
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We're not litigious.
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We're doing this for everybody's free speech and everybody to be protected, and for conservatives,
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Christians, and nationalists, and pro-gun folks to stand up and let the left know, the
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deranged left, that it's not open season on us anymore.
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That said, Robert Barnes is doing this at cost for the filings and things, but he intends
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to depose these people.
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He intends to fly around airplanes and do all this with his team.
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I've seen him do it myself with what he's doing.
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We weren't going to be able to continue on with the legal fees that we had at the level
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we're at right now.
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We'd have to cut back if Barnes hadn't come in and helped us cut back on some things and
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really streamline things.
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But I got to tell you, you need to go to freeamericanlawcenter.com and become a member.
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I have a strong suspicion...
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Barnes is using him as pure advertising.
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I have a strong suspicion that Barnes...
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Like he's saying he's working at cost, which means for free.
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He's doing this legal pro bono work, and Alex is promoting the Free American Law Center.
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I think that it's pretty clear that that's payment in kind.
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Do you know what that is?
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That's a fucking quid pro quo, Dan.
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Quid pro quo.
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I think it's pretty clear from statements that have been made and the pattern that we're
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seeing that, you know, maybe Barnes had ideas to get this off the ground.
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He knew that Alex has a big media empire with tons of listeners.
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It's a great place to try and cultivate support for it.
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I'll...
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Hopefully use it as a stepping stone when you get a higher profile client than you go
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on Fox News or whatever.
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I've made enough money defending Wesley Snipes that I don't need money now or whatever.
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I can take a hit, work for Alex for free, take this high profile ass case.
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And he's not working for free, by the way.
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Of course not.
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I don't believe that for a second.
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No.
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But you work at a reduced rate in order to make yourself the only option Alex has.
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Use him to fucking get your evil SPLC off the ground.
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God, Alex.
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It's great.
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You don't know who your friends are.
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Or he does know and he's on board with that sort of thing.
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That's possible.
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That's true.
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Because an evil SPLC helps Alex too.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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So it kind of works in both of their favors, but it's pretty clear what the arrangement
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seems to be.
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Yeah, but one of them is going to lose.
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They're both going to lose.
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Well, I know, but by losing Barnes wins, Alex just loses.
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That's debatable.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I don't think it's going to work for Barnes either.
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No.
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Well.
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We'll see.
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We'll see him in prison in 10 years for tax evasion.
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Sure.
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So there's big news in Alex's Sandy Hook case also that they talk about for a second.
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And that is that the Connecticut Supreme Court was hearing the arguments about his...
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He appealed the punishment that he got for going on air drunk and trying to intimidate
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the opposing counsel.
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And so the Connecticut Supreme Court agreed to hear that small section of the case.
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And here's how Alex presents that.
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So out of control, the Supreme Court of Connecticut has taken over the Sandy Hook case saying
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I'm being basically railroaded.
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That's being heard tomorrow.
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I mean, before I ever went to trial, there's this public interest.
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That's like when you catch the judge with a bunch of money in the back of their truck
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from the mafia.
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That's when the Supreme Court gets involved.
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Barnes should not allow Alex to say things like that.
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That is a complete lie and a misrepresentation of the case.
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The Connecticut Supreme Court hasn't taken over his Sandy Hook case.
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It's a small...
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It was described in a Connecticut paper that I was reading as a sideshow of the actual
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case.
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It is a small matter about the sanction that was imposed because of his million dollar
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bounty that he put out.
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Yeah.
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So that one's an issue.
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It's tough to get around that one.
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Right.
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At the time that we started recording this, I don't know how that worked out.
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But that was, like on Thursday as we're recording this, that was being heard.
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And Alex may have gotten those sanctions relieved, or he might not have, I don't know.
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But whatever it is, it has no real bearing on his actual case.
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No.
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And either way, if he does get the sanctions released, the next day he'll say something
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worthy of getting sanctioned.
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Undoubtedly.
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Well, I mean, yeah, if they do end up taking away those sanctions, it does seem to imply
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that Alex can do stuff like that on air if he wants to.
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Yep.
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And the punishments won't come.
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None.
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And I guess, cool.
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I don't know.
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So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex and Barnes talking about how crazed and backed
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into the corner Democrats are.
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But if you really listen to this, listen carefully, it sounds like a perfect description of Alex.
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Because I'm more scared of the Democrats because they're so crazy.
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They're wild-eyed right now.
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They're just nuts.
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Well, it's like anyone exposed, they're looking in the mirror and they're projecting onto
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others that which they see in themselves, particularly fearing that the deepest, most
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problematic aspects of their institutional power will now be exposed for the whole world
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to see.
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Are you fucking with me?
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Is Barnes fucking with me?
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No, but I mean, we see this all the time in various different permutations, them just
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describing the other side doing exactly what they're doing, even down to saying that the
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other side is saying that they're doing what the other side is doing.
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Like it's just, it's intended to confuse and disorient people.
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It's insane.
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Yeah.
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But that perfectly describes how my view of Alex is from looking at his show.
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Yeah, that's bad.
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Crazed, backed into a corner, scared of the world seeing what's actually going on in his
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operation.
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Like it's all, this is all just sad.
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I, man.
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And when you see the way that the cover for the Biden stuff or the cover for the Trump
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stuff in it pointing to Biden and all this, you see the exact same behavior.
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Like it's all just a dumb shell game.
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God, you know, Barnes could absolutely insult Alex to his face for an hour if he just started
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it with, I know this globalist and then went on a laundry list of the things that Alex
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is.
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And then the show and completely lost his way and you know, now he's supporting globalism.
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Oh, that's so sad.
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What a loser.
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Oh, that sucks.
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It must suck to be him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I agree.
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So when I come to the end of all this, one of the things that I come away with is a sense
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of like, there's a lot of really big shit going on in the real world.
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And you expect Alex to have either some kind of a freak out or something or have a decently
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interesting angle on any of it.
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And you really don't, you really don't.
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It's ultimately very disappointing listening to these episodes.
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Like, it makes me think he is sober, quite frankly.
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He's not drinking because his response to this kind of high level shit, even six months
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ago would have been explosive.
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And as it is, you look at his show and it's just yelling about Biden, Greta Thunberg's
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Hitler.
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It's kind of uninspired in a lot of ways.
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It would absolutely have been an emergency report for something.
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I couldn't find one.
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I don't know if he's allowed to do those anymore because of the sanctions thing still being
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unresolved.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what it is.
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I feel disappointed in some ways.
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I think there's a lot of interesting things.
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I think it's interesting to learn about the angle being of attack on Thunberg, the Soros
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shit.
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It's interesting to find that that comes from a QAnon Twitter account.
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That's interesting.
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It's interesting to see the reality of the Biden stuff in Ukraine.
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But Alex can do better or he could do better at some point.
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There was a time.
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Or at least he could be more interesting.
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It's disappointing for me.
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I'm disappointed in you, Alex.
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I expect a better propagandist and you are not that anymore.
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Yeah, I really I really think that in his life that that clip of him like just telling
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everybody Trump is mobbed up.
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Right.
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I don't trust this guy.
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He is going to die looking at that as his like fucking man in the high tower in the
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high castle moment of like there were two paths I could have taken.
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I could have gone here and then there's this reality and I went this way and I got the
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shitty reality.
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Sure.
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That's what the man in the high castle is about.
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But I'm just saying it's the alternate reality.
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Sure.
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Jesus.
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Fair enough.
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Jesus.
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Just don't like you misusing Philip K. Dick.
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Fine.
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But even if this is kind of uninspired and weak propaganda that could just easily be
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done by anybody else, it's still worth it to go over this for the revelation that Alex
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thinks that Jefferson Davis was a U.S. president.
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That's insane.
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That will live on as probably the most on brand Freudian slip I've ever heard.
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Yeah.
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I can't think of anything better.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we'll be back on Monday with a new episode.
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Indeed we will.
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It's been a long time since we did a Wacky Wednesday episode.
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Might do one on Monday just as a palate cleanser.
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We'll see.
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Depends on whether or not we're all still alive on Monday.
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That is a good point.
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Things are moving fast.
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Things are moving fast.
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I honestly think this episode might be outdated by the time we have finished recording it.
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Honestly.
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But we'll see and we'll be back then.
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But until then we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Correct.
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We are also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It is at knowledge underscore fight.
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Yes.
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And at go to bed Jordan.
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Correct.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are.
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I'm really into enunciation right now.
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That's what I'm feeling.
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It seems that way.
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But yeah.
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If you wanted to listen to our show you could go to iTunes.
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You could download the podcast.
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You could leave a review.
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But let me tell you something, Dan.
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The best way.
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Uh huh.
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The best way to hear this show is go down to your local 1950s themed diner.
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All right.
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I don't know which one is yours but mine specifically is off Highway 57.
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Okay.
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You go there.
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You order a real salty cup of coffee because it's a terrible diner.
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Terrible.
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You've had you've had that salty cup of coffee.
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I'm not sure I have.
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Oh it's a terrible diner.
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And when the woman brings out your check because it's a 1950s diner.
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She's a woman.
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She's going to bring out that notepad.
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She's going to have it in her little apron.
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She's going to hand it to you.
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And underneath it, palmed like a magician thumb drive.
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Okay.
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And it'll have our episode.
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And you'll get a nice malt out of the situation if you so choose.
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We'll be back but until then I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm the guy who dresses like a wall at a Trump rally.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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