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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm not Jordan. No you're Marty Marty. Hey. We're a couple guys

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We were sitting here, and we're gonna drink some novelty beverages and not talk about Alex Jones today necessarily

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Related

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Welcome it's good to be here street to have you look first of all it's a treat to drink this Dasani

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Sparkling pear Kiwi oh yeah

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First of all if you're a drink maker, and you're not doing those tall thin cans like love it diet

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Cokes like hey, but we're getting on that if it's in your hand real nice. It just looks good. It feels good

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It feels expensive feels

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Important I should tell you that Marty DeRosa filling in for Jordan today is sponsored by Dasani no

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But when you handed me this one at first I was afraid and a lot of times with because of the pear Kiwi

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Novelty beverages mm-hmm. I was afraid it's gonna taste like suntan lotion right which happens a lot

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That's why I avoid anything that has a coconut yeah or a lot of tropical type stuff. I just kind of steer clear

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Oh any sparkling waters

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with

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Yeah, your Kiwi sure coconut something. It's like it's gonna taste like suntan lotion. It has that risk for sure yeah

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I got screwed recently because I'm I'm such a sucker for anything that seems like oh, that's different

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Yeah, and so I bought a 12-pack of I don't remember what the brand was, but it was sparkling water

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Orange vanilla, and I was like I've never had a vanilla sparkling water

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This is gonna be crazy, and it was kind of gross so buys that are like this in the like red

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I just calm bread bowl cans mm-hmm

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They have a coconut one right in a pineapple pineapple that is out of this

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I mean it's a great flavor out of this world. Well. I'm glad that we both are passionate about our seltzer waters. Yeah

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So Jordan is still in

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Mexico mm-hmm he is on vacation or is he that's what I've heard yeah, you have no evidence of it

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He hasn't sent me any Instagram pics of him on the beach, but I trust him and so he's on vacation

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And so I could you know I you and I we discussed something that we wanted to do sure which was well

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Sammy Zane pro wrestler extraordinaire was injured we talked about doing a episode of that's what they want you to think our old

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Conspiracy Theory podcast and holding on to it for once he comes off the injured reserve to celebrate his return

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To the WWE, but we fucked up the timing we did and Sammy Zane is back from injury

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And we have not recorded that episode beat us to the punch. He did and he's back

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New attitude he's a he's a bad boy now right real real even badder than he was before yeah

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Oh, it's good to have him back sure. I like what he's doing. Do you like the mean streak? I do in a guy who's

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Supposedly so happy-go-lucky and skankin all over the place to ska music. I do Bailey's next. I'm predicting Bailey's neck

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You think that the hugger is gonna. Go gonna. Go evil yes very much

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So interesting predictions, and we were talking before we started recording about sort of

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I don't know how you feel, but my relationship with

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Conspiracy theories mm-hmm is not what it once was well

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This is one of the reasons why it's kind of difficult for us to get together to do an episode of that's what they want

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You to think anymore because you know that was a show where we ostensibly sat down

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And we talked about some sort of conspiracy theory or paranormal type thing

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I would research it and you would be like oh what the hell sure cuz I would always

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The reality would always be disappointing behind the the sort of fictional versions. We have in our head

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Yeah, you never get you never get any

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Like finality any resolve never

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Also a lot of it is like well if you break it down

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It's actually this happened in this happen this happen. It takes kind of the sexiness away from it mm-hmm

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But I and also I feel like yeah, I'm just it's like with all the new conspiracies, and you just you're like well

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That's not true at all

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But people believe and then I'm like that I believe stuff right true it introduces a real discomfort

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Yeah, and I just feel like they're not fun anymore. Yeah, we it the the other thing too

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I think about the conspiracy theory stuff is that like we now know where a lot of it is gone

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You know like a lot of those conspiracy worlds have funneled into like really ugly online world

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Yeah, and become stuff like Q anon and shit like that and Slender Man those girls

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So it almost killed the kid you take the murder out of it and Slender Man is great. I tell you what

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What do they call that spaghetti?

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Mm-hmm weird what do they call that what?

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Creepypasta that's a creepy pasta. Okay. I'm getting old man

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Yeah, my my girlfriend Sarah is always telling me like you're saying shit wrong, but I'm saying wrong shit all the time

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I find myself in that same thing. I'm so out of here scary spaghetti. No creepy pasta

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Creepypasta, it's scary spaghetti from now on for me by the way

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I'm now I'm now I've traded most of my conspiracy theories for a more gentle side of YouTube mm-hmm

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Abandoned malls. I'm in the series big into the dead mall. I didn't know there was a thing that sounds real fun

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So it's just empty malls dead or dying malls like he'll go to some that just have like

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Like maybe all the flagship stores, but one are still open. Maybe there's an Auntie Anne's that's still very much

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Yeah, okay

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Or he'll be like which happens with a lot of these malls now is like churches move in or churches chicken or the church

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Oh like a church churches Church Church. I guess that makes sense though low rent probably

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That's what what is that that presidential candidate that yang gang guy the Andrew Yang? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

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He he's a big proponent of let's make these malls

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Into more than just like more community centers and stuff like that

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And I was just at a mall having not no awareness of what that plan entails

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Yeah, I'd listen to that pitch well

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I mean it sounds like school could do schools teach people skills on that

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A lifelong learning yes, cuz I was just in a mall like a fancy mall up north in the North Shore here in Chicago

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Canada it's very faint. No North Shore fancy. If you say up north. I just

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The North Shore you go up to painting were all the like athletes that play on the Bulls and the Cubs they'll live up there

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uh-huh and this mall

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was interesting because

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They a lot of the stores that had left like big stores like a lot of the department stores are closing

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And they have like a virtual reality place or like one was like a store that was gone

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They replaced it with like a dispenser like a music store

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No

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not that a music place where like they had a concert stage so like your kids can go there and like for birthdays and like

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Karaoke and and play you know rock stars on stage and stuff like that sounds fun experiences. Mm-hmm

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I don't know that stuff. I watch instead of who killed Alyssa lamb. That's probably a better use of your time

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It seems like uplifting to some extent as opposed to like you hiding under your cover

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Why are you freaked out? I used to get real high and then somebody was gonna knock on my door

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Yeah, you expressed that on something. I knew too much. Yeah, remember my car blew up. I was like, I don't know Dan

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Yeah, I don't know the show because of the show my car blew up. Thanks Ford. My car blew up and

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It caught on fire and it didn't blow up. It wasn't like that a casino or anything. We were doing our conspiracy theory

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That's our show. They want you to think we were I think we were doing it once a week

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Yeah, and so I come to the Lincoln Lodge. Yes that you're on. I believe I think you were doing the show that week

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I show up and you tell me what Dan my car blew up. I gotta quit the show

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My car blew up I didn't have the like sort of rudeness to tell you at the time that I thought that that was insane

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Yeah, well, I just respected your wishes

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When you're in it, you're in it sure and a lot of these people are in it. Mm-hmm

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It's easy. It's easy to be sucked into those sorts of thoughts too. There's a guy I have my moment

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There's another YouTube guy named Wang

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Wh Ang at the Wang gang Asian long no different

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Okay, Asian long hair cool, dude, and he does a lot of like these

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Remembering 4chan years ago when this guy posted this and then he kind of talks about it and breaks it down and stuff like that

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Oral history of 4chan. Yeah, pretty much. So I'm I'm I'm looking for more gentle stuff lately with sure all the

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You know shit out there. It's so funny because I feel like the last time we did it

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The world was such a different place. Yeah, I think of the last time

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We actually did an episode as we tried to restart things and do the Denver Airport. Oh, yeah, maybe

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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure but I think what we've been doing lately is much more fun

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And that is me disappointing you by talking about times that various wrestlers have been on info Wars

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Yeah, I have crushed your feelings about rowdy rowdy Piper. Oh that hurt

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Yeah, and then not so crushing talking about Kane the wrestling mayor

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You expect him sure Kane I expect yeah

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Someone told me recently

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Oh, man, I was just watching

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Mean Jean Okerlund shoot interview if you don't want to shoot interview is where they sit an old wrestler or wrestling personality down at

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A hotel room. It's just a tight shot on their face and they take them through their career and ask them a million questions

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It's kind of like a deposition it is it really is

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Some are more fun at it than others back in the and the idea is that they're telling the truth seek outside of character

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Yeah, yeah, there was a window of these shoot interviews

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Early to mid to like, you know, like you're 2000 to

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2005 to 10 maybe hmm. A lot of these wrestlers were fucked up in these

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I think that was the big event on drugs. Give them drugs. Give me booze

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Oh, oh, yeah, you're luring them. We're like the Sandman is asleep through half of it

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Oh, I mean all the all the usual suspects just real fucked up during these know you want to know about Triple H

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I'll fucking tell you about Triple H. Oh, but I was watching a

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Mean Jean Okerlund one and he is so charming so funny. He's not fucked up

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No, not like steady. He just had a gin and tonic by his side. All right, and classy and the guy goes

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He goes he you do you vote for Trump did you go? Of course I did and I was like a teen

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Gee, not a big deal. Well, I'm gonna let it slide. He is mean

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Yeah, it trumps in the fucking old fellow Hall of Famer true WWE, right?

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Somebody

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my buddy Jimmy Lee was

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He he was like hey, I read this story about macho man

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Oh, no, and you're like bracing because they just did a vice documentary about macho man and Elizabeth

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I heard Hogan had some feelings about that. He goes

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Didn't have all the facts should have asked more than the people you did and they go

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Yeah, we asked you and you didn't you risk you didn't want to do the show and then he blocked him

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Also, you're an asshole. Also, you're racist fuck. So

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The in the research they had done they were kind of goofing on him on this podcast and that somebody wrote in and they go

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They were like what you know, that's the to it's expensive. Look. He's got to be racist or whatever and they're like and this

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Black I messaged them and he's like, yeah, actually no macho came to our high school and they were doing the Pledge of Allegiance

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And there were certain parts of it. He wasn't down for and he's like this country's done a disservice to African Americans

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And they wrote a big apology Oh shout out to macho macho

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Whoa, bone saw hell. Yeah killing him. There you go. That's great

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This episode is not going to be about macho man showing up on info war. No, we're safe. Well, thank god

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Wow, that'll never happen. It was really really tough for me to find another wrestler who's been on info wars

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Yeah, I mean we could have gone with Jesse Ventura

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Yeah, but I will tell you that he's been on too many times. Yeah, and it's just you know, it's no good

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I think do you think there's shows that Jesse said no to never I don't think I bet we could get a show

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I bet we could get him and I bet I never it spark a fun friendship with them

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And let me tell you and then he passes away and then you write a book like, you know

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you know, I really got to know Jesse in the

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Late 2019 or I could wonderful friendship say that he beat me up at a bar. Yeah

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like

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Or I beat him up at a bar. That was the

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American sniper thing when that lawsuit not entirely sure how that shook out

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But so I was like Jesse Ventura is no good. He's on too much. Yeah, so I'm like, I don't know

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I can't really find another wrestler. Mm-hmm. So what I was thinking is like what about professor Griff when he was on?

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Realize we already kind of talked you did you did like ah shit. That's no good. I was like wait Billy Corgan

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He's wrestling adjacent. Yes. He is the owner of the National Wrestling Alliance exactly

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I was like we could do that but then I realized we've already covered that as well

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And so I was like we are really up against a brick wall

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Yeah, but thankfully I found something that blew my fucking mind

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And we'll get to that in just a second

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But first yes Dan got to give a shout out to a couple of people who have signed up and are supporting the show and we

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Really appreciate so first of all Mike down. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you Mike down Mike down. That's and I'm always very impressed when

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Names sound like they could be wrestlers. Oh, yes, not to make everything about wrestling

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I'll do my best not to work, but I do love a name that sounds like like that's a wrestler right there because I

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Always think it's funny when so when razor Ramon and diesel left the WWF at the time go to WCW

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They can't be diesel and razor that's owned by the W

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Yeah, you got those character trials there was they weren't sure what they were gonna do

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Like they were gonna they originally we're gonna call him axle and the bad guy

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Oh, and then somebody was like, yeah, and then that's not as bad as it could be right and then finally someone just goes

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What's their real names and they go Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. They go. Yeah, just call him that

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Those are really good names

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But like what if it was like what are their names like Scott Hall and like Irv Dinkowitz like fuck. Okay. Well

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Well, there's that guy Hugh Morris, right

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Yeah, that's a terrible there's a great when Austin meets him for the first time and he's like Hugh Morris

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That's supposed to be funny. Oh, what?

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I hated that. I hate that name. Yeah drives me nuts. But you know his old name

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No, when Vince Russo Hugh mungus close. Ah, very close

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Vince Russo who was a

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Writer got brought over to WCW and he's just an idiot right and his idea with Hugh Morris

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Was to think of a really and Vince Russo most of his stuff has to had to do with like sex

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Think of a name for Hugh Morris Hugh Jess

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Hugh G

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rection a

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Man was paid so much money to come up with Hugh

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G rection that just seems like I mean, it's just coke. Yeah, and then everyone they were in a mill like a military group

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And then they called him general rection. Okay, but and they had a lady with big boobs called major guns, of course

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Yeah, and thumbs down do all of that but thumbs up. Yeah to Rob

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But thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

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That is not Rob Stark cuz he died at the Red Wedding if you recall

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I don't know if you watched the new Game of Thrones. No, I'm not I don't I don't watch

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I wouldn't give any spoilers intimidated to start it. All right, that's fine, but I'm watching Barry and I love it. Okay

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The bald guy and Barry wonderful. I have no idea what revelation while someone at home does and they go you're right

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He's the most delightful person on television, but the most delightful person that I can think of is Kayla

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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much Kayla next

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Wallacy punk. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Wallacy punk

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I hope to joke names on this so far already. I appreciate it. And then finally I'd like to say

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Thank you to somebody who donated on a little bit of an elevated level. We appreciate it very much. So Liz D

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Thank you so much. You are now a globalist. I'm a policy wonk

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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark

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Thank you so much Liz D we appreciate it now that just answered one of my as a policy wonk myself, right?

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Right and a longtime listener. I always wonder is Jordan doing that live or is it recorded yelling over the

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Black Caribbean accent and always and you told me no. Yeah, it's him saying it live. It's clean audio

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Yeah, says it over the recording every single episode. Yeah, love it

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We're creatures of habit a certain extent church with me saying we appreciate it

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Oh, so very much those little verbal ticks that we have for a long time

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I called everything reasonable. Those are things that people point out. Someone did a

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Like a cut of like a

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Super cut of Joe Rogan going

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Yeah, my buddy my buddy this my buddy that my buddy this my buddy. He's got a lot of friends got a lot of friends

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Um, so Marty, yes, I told you I found something. All right, who am I gonna lose faith in today, Dan?

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I don't actually know if you're gonna lose faith in anybody, but it is crazy that this thing happened and the surrounding

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Circumstances, okay are pretty wild. So this actually doesn't have any Alex in it. Okay, this is taken from the infowars nightly news

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Where I get all my news, of course, and this comes to you circa early 2013

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And this is a report where we got the anchor of the infowars nightly news. Darren McBree the voice of America

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Indeed. Yes. What is this name the most trusted newsman the most trusted name?

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Ever in our borough of our times Darren McBreen

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Okay, he comes in and he sets the stage for what we're about to listen to the WWE World Wrestling

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Entertainment has jumped on the bandwagon

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demonizing tea party Americans as

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Racist they created a new villain Jack swagger who is a loudmouth

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Constitutionalist and racist who receives fan mail from Alex Jones. Yeah, right

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So we we have set ourselves in you know, you can tell what time period we're in

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Yes, this is when Zeb Colter and Jack swagger. Yes have become

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Characters and are about to feud with Alberto del Rio. Yes for the the title for the world title. Mm-hmm

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Yes, so Marty. Do you want to give people a little bit of this the the storyline of this as it happened in wrestling?

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Yes, so at the time

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Jack swagger

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They liked him. He was a

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Quote-unquote real athlete. They like those college wrestlers big tall beef big beef, dude. I'm like from the

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Nebraska horns like that. Yeah corn fed colossus

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Wasn't was his character before just sort of like American the all-american American, right?

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Jack's back because he wasn't of all-american

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So that's what he came from before he made this pivot into the the character that he would be in early

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2013 now in this day and age and even back in 2013

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Managers have been phased out your Bobby the brain heenans. You're mr. Fugees the honky-tonk man. No

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No, he was a Jimmy Hart Jimmy Hart the mouth of the South Jimmy Hart. Excuse me

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They've all been phased out. So nobody really has managers anymore, but Jack Sager while Jack swagger's unfortunate circumstance was

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a major lisp, uh-huh, and you just in wrestling it's just it doesn't play like unfortunately

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I think it can play if you're a bad guy cuz then you're annoying the audience

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Disrespectful just didn't it I could tell Vince McMahon was like I can't have this guy in my show talking

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Cuz you got it. That's anything to when I say that

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I'm saying it through the lens that I know Vince McMahon and his lunacy as was my comment about like him being a villain

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Cuz that's annoying that was through the lens. They've done the WWE they've done the fake stuttering gimmicks right up like that, right? So

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Jet they think how can we do a Jack swagger? So they grab?

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Dutch Mantell

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former

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wrestler

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Former Booker guy who kind of decides how things go great

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And you got the walrus of a loss that looks like a tea party member crazy must they name them Zeb Colter

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obviously and Colter

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You getting the Zeb he used to be Uncle Zeb Adia. Okay, so you get the Zeb his old name and Colter, okay?

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She's a right-wing lunatic clearly it the WV is not very subtle. No. They're not very subtle

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So it's like if they're gonna bring in you know

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I mean they had Mohammed Hassan as the the Middle Eastern extremist and said he was an Italian guy and

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And all sorts of fun stuff like that so

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They bring them in they're cutting the promos basically

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You know we don't want anyone taking our jobs and stuff they they have a a real mirror of the rhetoric that comes

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Yeah, the right wing they have the Semper Fi flag in the back the Gadsden play

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Yeah, the they put their hand

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I want everyone in the building to put your hand over your heart and repeat after me we the people

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now in wrestling

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When you have a fun chant mm-hmm, and you say it every week and drill it into people's heads when they're at TV

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What do you think they want to do Dan champ? They want to chant it along with you?

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Yeah, so unfortunately the road dog could like get people eating out of his hands because everyone knew the fucking chance

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Yes, so what happens is all of a sudden the bad guy who's cutting promos about this Mexican man

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Taking our jobs and our titles

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Oh, and they shouldn't be over here and now repeat after me and you have 13,000 people going

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We the people and they went oh

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Oh, so what they normally do when the when the heat gets a little too hot is they pivot and they start adding

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Other people oh well at Cesaro. He's a foreigner. Why I don't know and then eventually they went over real Americans

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Yeah, no no they were oh my god. I'm blanking

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What the heck were they called you might have to look it up. I can't remember what they were called, but then

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They put del Rio with them. You know what I mean, which is the thing that wrestling loves to do

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It's like well if we're bad. Why is he with them?

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They were what were they called so they added the former enemy

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Yeah, which happens in wrestling all the time, and it's kind of like how can we be bad if he's with them?

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I can't it was the real America the real Americans okay, Cesaro and Jack Swagger the real America. How dare you doubt me?

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I'm often wrong again is the real America. It's true. I would think you'd have a trademark on yeah

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So and and at the time I know it was getting sorrows Swiss right yeah, the Swiss Superman

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Yeah, so it was getting why is he the real American? He's Swiss. Well. You know they that's a thing with

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With wrestling too especially back in the 80s. There's no need for character consistent

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No people pledging their allegiance to other countries

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Oh sure money or for this country's wronged me

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You know you had you had DBS he comes in and gets your sovereignty bought away. Yeah

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Yeah, I mean he you know you had you had sergeant slaughter the Iraqi sympathizer sure I remember that you know you had

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Don Crenodle with the Russians like you had a lot of people who would turn their back on countries or or just free agents

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I don't care whose or pays me the most money see I think what you're describing though in this storyline is like

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After the point we're at in this

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Clip I think we're still at the point where they are seen as bad guys. They're still this is new this is fresh

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I think it's I think it's yeah, it's fairly fresh the other thing which

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Really really gets Vince McMahon's rocks off mm-hmm is when outside of the WWE

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They're being talked about like John Oliver, but like this being you know people on Fox News. Oh, they're going to they're just like

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Oh, yeah, keep talking about us, baby. We love it. We let business strategy might come up a little bit later

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I think so yeah someone someone might point out that this is a

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A cynical strategy that Vince McMahon uses now. It's so ironic that you bring this up because

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There's a wrestler in NXT

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Mm-hmm. Oh, no. I heard about die Jack or die Jacobic. They keep changing his native change his name

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He's cutting these kind of what can be construed as white nationalist promos right which is like

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You know they might have done a thing of like let's just test this out at a non televised event

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See how it goes see if we can get away with this we can get away with it because they want to

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Claim like we mirror society right and they've done that before

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They've also done it. They had like DX do black the nation it that was those right those timely yeah

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The nation of domination sure which were black militants in

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97 ish to nine to eight ninety eight ninety nine

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I don't see it being so crazy for them to have a white nationalist character

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Yeah, I don't want them to but at the same time. I was over at your place. Yeah, certainly watching the NXT

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Yes, takeover, New York this last one

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And Walter yeah, the European wrestler Austrian. He strikes me as a bit Nazi ish

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He definitely that is not an accident my girlfriend Sarah who I do my wrestling podcast with I was introducing her to vulture

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And she was like

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I

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Mean his like his group is ring comp. Yes, and that I mean comes the general

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Is my struggles it definitely is a little like huh, yeah

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And I think that's the thing with with wrestling is it's like subtle or they'll be like whoa whoa whoa

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We never said Nazi. That's you projecting that I start to seek highling or something like that

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They were in trouble Fox contributor JBL John. He he got in trouble for a goose-stepping in Germany

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Got a little trouble for that guy's an asshole big time

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But they loved yet pushing the envelope like that and being like well going back to the Muhammad

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Hassan character if you ever watch those opening like vignettes they used to introduce wrestlers through these vignettes little mini

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commercials for the wrestler and

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They brought Muhammad Hassan and and Sean Devar E as his manager in

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again

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You know

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They brought them in after 9-eleven

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Maybe a year or two after and at first it was kind of like hey, man

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We haven't changed who we are you guys changed the way you look at us

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It was a lot of interest is a mildly progressive storyline

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It was real interesting, but then they brought him in and it was just like the music is exactly like the music in Team America

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You know the huh?

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here comes the evil bad guy, and I mean just

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It everything about that is just cringe-worthy if you look back at it now the WWE has attendance

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You know like how the universe tends towards entropy WWE universe. No no the

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WWE universe yeah, yeah the universe tends towards entropy and the WWE universe tends towards minorities becoming villains

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Sure like they without a lot of careful attention

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Yeah, they were that story will end up being told if you're not careful

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Yeah, well we with if you see that I mean even with the Zeb Colter and swagger stuff like that past WrestleMania Kofi Kingston

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won the title right Kingston a

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african-american wrestler and

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A lot of people were talking about how years ago

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Booker T was in a program with a confused with Triple H

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Leading into a WrestleMania match, and it was very they were showing his mugshot

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Jerry the King Lawler was saying all these jokes about he's a criminal

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He's a jailbird right and it was very much. You know the the thinly veiled

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racist stuff of like people like you

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Yeah, don't beat people like me, and you were like well. They like Booker win, then I'm like nope Triple H beat him

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It was crazy. Yeah, I remember that being a very like wow yeah, really thought

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I remember we all were just like oh

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That's gross and the WWE has a fun thing of going just wait and see how everything plays out

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That's they're like. I don't want to talk about it. Nothing's gonna change

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Just wait and see how we haven't done everything usually the fact that that with Booker T

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And Triple H was so fucked up

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Yeah, made me all but certain that Kofi was going to win they because they literally had to let Kofi win

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Yeah, it would have been so fucked up. It would have been the craziest thing ever until that time

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They're the only

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African American WWE champion was the rock and I mean

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That he won the title how many years ago, and he's Samoan and black you know what I mean

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So it's just like and it was very important for I was really blown away by

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how

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Moved a lot of my african-american friends and african-american wrestlers were when Kofi won

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It was like I know it's wrestling and it's fake, but this is such a big deal

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Yeah, it is and representation, and it's not visibility, and it's not real this could have been done

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This could have been done so long ago. That's the other part of it like yeah

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I have a buddy who used to write for WWE

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I have a buddy who used to write for the WWE Bryan Mann, and he tweeted out

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He goes like you know you could have just made someone the champion a long time ago

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Right like it isn't like the Cubs finally won like that's what I always say why I love

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Wrestling is because like we wouldn't have had to wait this long for the Cubs to win

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And it would have been awesome. You know what I mean, but yeah, you know yeah

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So we've gone down a long road. Sorry. Let's get back to the real American

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So Zeb Colter Zeb also came out on a little scooter right not at first though right no no

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Yeah, he was always always good. Maybe not in those in those vignettes, but when he came out. He was always scootin

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I like that that hover round. Yeah, so I can see the world

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I wonder if because I mean he might have been the right guy, or it might have been a coincidence because

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After this he was let go and then went to impact wrestling and their slogan at the time was make impact great again

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And it's like yeah, I don't think this is the slogan you got I read at Wrestlecon

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I was interviewing their panel, and I was like oh, this is the strategy

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We might not be a winner, and it didn't last long up so they they are introduced as these sort of xenophobic

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Types yes, and they're bad guys to begin with

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and

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Then they start getting popular to the point where

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They do start getting a lot of people who are in that that sort of right-wing world

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Yeah, liking them yeah, and it gets so bad that the two of them have to release a video where they explain

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We are characters. Yeah, we are doing this to create a response

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That's ideally for you to boo us. Yeah, that's when you know because this is fucked up stuff that we have then

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It's like oh no no no no I'm Dan Friesen right the Mauler would say that yeah, but not Dan Friesen

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That's when you know

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I've never seen anybody especially in the modern time. Oh, yeah, something like it still happens. Yeah. Yeah, it still happens

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They went over to Saudi Arabia

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Which is another fucking story very messed and Sean Devar you I mentioned earlier who was with Muhammad

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Oh, that's right. There was that him and his brother

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Uh came out and did a bit, and then they had to be like oh, we're sorry

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They came out with like Iranian flag said they were Iranian and yeah, they're not and they were yeah, yeah

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Those moments are real weird whenever wrestlers have to be like hey

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Yeah, I don't want to be killed for this. I don't or I don't want to encourage something really dangerous

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Yeah, we have crossed a line. There's a famous one in ECW back in the

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Mid 90s where they crucified the Sandman Raven crucified the Sandman

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And Kurt Angle who was fresh out of the Olympics who was

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Olympic gold medals for wrestling was

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Flirting with coming into pro wrestling and they were like hey come to ECW

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We'll show you the ropes will get you in the business, and he saw that and was like fuck this

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I don't want anything to do with this if you show me on this show

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I'll sue you and Paul Heyman had to send Raven out, and he's like hey

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It's Scott Levy the character. I play the character of Raven

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I didn't mean to really crucify the guy like his heart was not in it at all so funny

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But that's when you know they're like oh, and I'm sure there's old wrestlers who are like you never do that

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You never do you take the heat you take it baby. Yeah, I don't know

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I don't know what I would do, but we call heat yeah

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But the characters that these that they're complaining about or that Darren McBreen is complaining about

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Got so fucked up in terms of risk the response that they were getting yeah that they had to do that

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They saw that as an appropriate time to break character and try and help people understand

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This is storytelling you're not supposed to like us. Yes. This is fucked up

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So that's what's a gotta be in infowars bonnet

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That's the story that they're covering, but it's not just Darren McBreen who's going to cover this

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They've got a special interview a correspondent that well

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There's a correspondent who's going to interview somebody and when I heard who my plan was it blew my mind

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Okay, in fours reporter and former

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Wrestler bionic Dan Badandi well he got a chance to sit down and talk with another former wrestler

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Val Venus about this latest propaganda campaign that portrays Americans who oppose big government as

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domestic extremist and even terrorist here's Dan Badandi, so we got Val Venus hello infowars I

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Love it yeah, I can't believe that Val Venus appeared on infowars talk about male vitality

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They missed that opportunity

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He could if he was willing to go on he was willing to cut an ad for them

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Yeah, Val's another one of those guys you would always hear back in the day with Kane that were

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Libertarians those are right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's a big. He's big in the pot business. He's in the cannabis industry

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Bitcoin guy yeah all that all that stuff and more so his right to censor character might have been more accurate than his male porn

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Star character. I think there's still some of the porn star character

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I saw him wrestle at a show this mania weekend for Joey Ryan's penis party

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Oh, and he had some interesting things to say I'm sure yeah, he's kind of a lunatic

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Um so those of you don't know out there back in the 90s

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Attitude era Val Venus was a character who was a porn star. He would come out

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Hello, ladies

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Jazzy kind of like fake porn music yeah, and then he would come out and talk about the big Val Boesky

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Yes, which was his dick yes, and then wherever whatever town. They're in you know like in Chicago

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They had the Sears Tower

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But the Val Boesky's got you know whatever and he did see yeah power

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Power he'd like yeah. He was not it was not very subtle right let me put my Chicago hot dog in you deep

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Yeah, yeah, and there's no ketchup on this hot dog ladies

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I remember a storyline where he sexually terrorized Ken Shamrock by fucking his sister. Yeah, Ryan Shamrock

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Um he was it was a gross character. Yeah, but it was one

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I enjoyed back when I was younger because it seemed so titillating yeah a Yakuza type group almost chopped his penis

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Let's chop at the peepee off choppy chop your peepee off right cuz he had slept with the one of the one of the guys

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Sisters or daughters also a very racist portrayal of Japanese people mr.. Haguchi son yes

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Yamaguchi son he would come out in a towel strip it off

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His finishing move was the porn pretzel the money shot though well

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The big splash was the money shot right and the mission move was the porn pretzel

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Yeah, and then at some point. He found God and joined the right to censor so

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Which was a group that believed that the WWE was becoming too ungodly

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Yeah

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They needed to get rid of all obscenity this goes this ties in with kind of what we're talking about here with when when shit

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Gets hot there would be has to call an audible a lot of times

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Be it them or the USA Network is like hey, man

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This is getting a little crazy you might have to kind of pump the brakes on this a little bit

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So you had Godfather who was a pimp yes in Val Venus who was a porn star yes?

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I can't remember who else ivory was in it, but I wasn't that bad. No not at all or

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Stephen Richards yes, I can't remember who else there was anybody else

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Bulby cannon, but he was a cop. He was a cop also named after like a real racist cop in the past

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Oh great. I judge of the shit in Alabama or something like that sweet anyway

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Uh depressing so fun. There was there's a so many racist things you think about it

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Yeah, pretty much all of it so that that mirrored

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They were called the right to censor the RTC

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But at the time there was the parent television council the PTC who was giving them a lot of shit

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Oh, so they were kind of making fun of people saying they should clean up their act by clean

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But also cleaning up their act at the same time

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Cowards, and it was like you don't want us to censor you guys right and it was like turning your favorites into these

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They'd all wear white. They'd all dress. You know like black pants, but they have a short sleeves and black

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Yeah, and they were all like don't do that and I give if you know like Sable came out in a bikini

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They would put a potato sack. Oh, don't do don't show your body

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and basically trying to get you to want to not like people who want to censor people and so it was like

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You know dual purposed or whatever. It's very strange. Yeah, dynamically

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Yeah, but Val Venus became a part of that and then I kind of lost track of his career

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But good to know he's still around at the Joey Ryan penis party. Yeah, that's great. That was available for bookings

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Yeah, I hit up Joey Ryan as evidenced by his 2013 appearance with Dan Badandi

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Yes, he is not very picky about his appearances either. No, no, no

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So Dan Badandi has popped up in the news recently

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Mostly because Alex Jones is currently being sued by Sandy Hook families for his defamation. Oh, you don't say

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Alex it's not very good for him and his harassing coverage of that tragedy

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In his deposition Alex tried to play down Dan Badandi's involvement with Infowars even implying that he wasn't really an employee

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Alex even said that he told Badandi that if he didn't stop claiming that he worked for Infowars

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Alex would have to come out and say that he was a quote bad person. I'm not entirely sure what that means

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I don't know how that's

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You're a bad person. I'm gonna tell her about your bad person. That's very childish like that sort of thing

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It's like if you don't stop claiming you work for me when you're doing fucked up things. I will tell everyone you're mean

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Yeah, I'll show you. Yeah, you can easily find Dan Badandi's LinkedIn page

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If you want to by googling it and if you do it appears that it hasn't been updated since 2016

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His username though is Infowars Dan Badandi. Oh shit, and his job title is reporter at Infowars

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It was gonna be I don't work at Infowars Dan Badandi, but it was too many characters

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Dan's Twitter account has been suspended but a snapshot on the wayback machine shows that as late as January 15th

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2017 Dan Badandi had Infowars reporter listed in his bio his accounts link

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You know the homepage link is to Infowars.com and his header is just an Infowars logo

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Now he has a new Twitter handle the real Dan Badandi where his bio says quote former Infowars reporter

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And he has 27 followers. Hey in March 2014 Dan Badandi testified in front of a Rhode Island State House meeting about guns

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He introduces himself by saying quote. My name is Dan Badandi

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I work for Infowars.com. It's the number one alternative media in the world

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He goes on to yell at the panel for quote exploiting the deaths of the children at Sandy Hook at which point

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He's told to leave the building. Yeah

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Wait, when you first started saying that I thought it was gonna be a wrap. My name is Dan Badandi and I'm here to say

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I report the news in a different way

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Falsely. After the Boston bombing Dan Badandi showed up and yelled at everyone around who would listen to him that it was a false flag

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And identified him consistently himself consistently as working for Infowars

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How'd that work in Boston? Because I know the other guy went to Sandy Hook and he was kind of like this is fake

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Well, that's the same guy. Oh, this is Dan Badandi. Big fan of his work. Big fan of his work

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I wonder how that works. You're like walking around Boston being like this didn't happen. It got some pushback

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Yeah, I found an article about a guy who yelled back at him

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Yeah, about how like people need to protect the First Amendment, but people like you and Alex Jones are fucking assholes

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Isn't that crazy how someone yells something like that and you're like whoa

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Okay, right

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in July

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2015 he showed up at the salty brine state beach in Rhode Island

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Harassing beachgoers about an imagined bombing that took place on the shores

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He had an Infowars microphone in his hand in the video that same year in 2015

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Dan Badandi made a submission video to be on the sixth season of WWE's tough enough. Hell, yeah

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He did not get selected for the show

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Although it's too bad he didn't because if he had we would have gotten a weird crossover between an Infowars reporter and a pre

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Velveteen dream Patrick Clark Wow, which would have been very interesting and Hulk Hogan was the judge on that. Is that right?

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Yeah, well, he was for a little bit. Go away. That would be just a weird firestorm of strange things

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Uh-huh

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all this is to say

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That Dan Badandi is very much an employee of Infowars and Alex was perfectly happy to employ him in whatever capacity he did for years

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He let this idiot run around to bother people at yell at State House meetings because it created

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Controversy attention and content for Infowars because Alex never gave a shit about the consequences of his or other people's actions

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And here we find him interviewing Val Venus, which I couldn't have imagined

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He's clearly got a thing that I would ever say right you tried to be a wrestler. Okay, so he probably knows Val from

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Somewhere reached out to him or something. This is when Twitter and wrestling were you know, like wrestling Twitter was starting to become 2013

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Pretty popular so I assume you know Val was very accessible on there and I bet Val's an info warrior with or without Twitter

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I bet Val's pretty accessible. I'm pretty sure his his DMS and his

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Address is very open. Yeah, it's still surreal to me though. Like I never would have imagined

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I mean, I don't know as much as you do about like this back like locker room stuff

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We're like you you're saying that him and Kane were two guys who are known as libertarians Bradshaw Kane him like very much

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Yeah, I I just you know, I never would have thought that of the big Val Boesky. I never I never would have thought

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The day would come what I would see him. Yeah as the other wrestler who I was Canadian. Oh good

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Yeah, nothing that matters. I just thought in there. Um, so here we go

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This here we're gonna start this interview and after you hear this interview beginning. I will lay the scene

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For you of what's going on?

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Hi, this is Dan McDonough reporting for info Wars nightly news in recent news that WWE created a brand new heel gimmick

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Jack Swagger and his manager Zeb Colter

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Who preached the Bill of Rights sports the Madison flag and talk about the legal immigration problem going on in this country and their opponent

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Happens be a Mexican wrestler who they're facing for the World Heavyweight Championship in WrestleMania, Alberta Del Rio

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Two weeks ago on Monday Night Raw

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During swagger's match commentators Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler joked about how swagger receives bags of fan mail from Glenn Beck

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Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones and then again highlighted Alex Jones

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Could this be a demonization of the Liberty Movement?

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And today we're going to get our guesses taken on this. He's a former WWE superstar

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Val Venus and mr. Val Venus. How you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing very well yourself

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Okay, so he sounded like a Val Venus doll you pull the string

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Yeah, hello ladies. Hello

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So I need to lay the scene for ya

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first of all for what we get from that is that you're right Dan Badandi watches fucking more wrestling than you Dan Badandi sounds like

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90% of the wrestling podcasts out there. This would be like Dan Badandi's did welcome to Dan Badandi's wrestling world

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I'm Dan Badandi. We're gonna break down Raw Smackdown and NXT. Here we go. Mm-hmm

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It would be a better use of his time than this. Sure, then then there's harassing victims and yelling about guns and shit

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Yeah, um, so he has a laptop that he's sitting next to and Val is on Skype on this laptop

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Okay, so there's a video camera that is facing Dan Badandi sitting next to a laptop

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Okay, and if you look closely there's a microphone sitting next to the speaker on the laptop. Hell yeah, lo-fi, baby

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They don't even have a jack to hook the thing into like some sort of audio recorder or anything

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That's why Val Venus sounds terrible. Okay, like a like a doll you pull the string of

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Yeah, because it's just a microphone next to a terrible speaker on a cheap laptop

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Sure

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Now if you pay even closer attention

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You've noticed that behind Dan Badandi you notice that he's in a room that has glass windows

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Okay, and if you look through those glass windows you realize he's at a public library. I

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Think you're gonna see he has like wrestling posters on the wall or something

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You know when this is over if we could just talk about wrestling a little bit. I'd really appreciate it

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He is in a private room at a public library

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Of course with a microphone next to the speaker on a laptop and if you pay even closer attention

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You notice that right behind him is an old man googling

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Hand packing the keys. How does this work? It's too far away to actually see what's exactly going on

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But it's an old man sitting at a computer. Yeah, so I'm left with the

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Idea that maybe he doesn't have a camera and the library has a camera that he can use

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Okay

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Or he doesn't have the internet at home sure and he's using the internet at the library in order to make this

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Interview with the Val Boesky happen. I believe all of these. I don't know what it is, but whatever it is. It's not good

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Yeah, it's sad. It's not screaming professionalism or journalism or or anything like that

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No, it's tough. And then also the quality of it is not good

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Yeah, like Dan Badani sitting there with a mic next to the computer

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Like if I were Alex, I'd be like look I know that Val Venus is a huge star

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Yeah, this is a big get and I'm glad that you came through for the nightly news. Uh-huh. The quality of this is no good

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You know what? We you we gotta get you zoom. You're gonna have to have that I'll call it myself. I'll call myself also

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Mr. Badani was trying to make it seem like Alex was the top reference

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They kept beat Glenn Beck baby 100 back was the king of the castle at the time. Glenn Beck was red-hot

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And and this was when he was riding high crying right now totally

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You know on chalkboard the G party wave had been very favorable. Absolutely at that

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But he hadn't embarrassed himself

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Yet. Well, I mean he had but he hadn't paid the price for it

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Not yet, and then made that public apology to her after Trump got elected and then become even worse than he used to be now

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Yes, he just dropped the hot one on the stroll with that Notre Dame. That guy is a fucking asshole

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Yeah, but again Alex, no, they weren't no talking about you

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This is classic info wars behavior is turning Alex into the main story when maybe Glenn Beck is far more popular than him

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Yeah, I very much remember

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It was basically they wanted Fox News's attention total and Alex

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I'm sorry, but and you weren't wanted not to give it away too much

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But Val Venus understands that and he explains as much a little bit later and it's why that you should no one should be mad

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About this like, you know what they're doing. Yeah, you know the game they're carnies. Mm-hmm

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So in this next clip Val Venus talks about how he's sick and tired of this demonization of the Patriots

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Now you guys want to get your take on this on this whole thing going on with demonizing the Liberty movement and all that

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You as you seen in the W of E. What's your take on that?

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Oh, I also forgot to mention that the Skype video of Val Venus he's in a car sure

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He's driving somewhere of videotaping himself talking to Dan, but look guys if neither you're gonna take this serious. What are we doing here?

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So he's not happy about that

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But my response to that would be like that's the equivalent of some liberal or someone on the left being mad about Daniel Bryan's

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Like eco character. Yeah, like I don't think anyone would because they'd get like this is parody. This is storytelling

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This isn't this isn't demonizing the environmentalist movement. It's just a character

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These people are such snowflakes for sure that it's so funny. Oh my god. Look at that

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They're trying to turn everyone against us wrestling character. So on brand with like you said, they're they're the true

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Snowflakes in a lot of these senses. It's so sad. Oh, you're so upset. Mm-hmm

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Why are you mad Val? Also this this patriot movement that is based on the United States Constitution is so important

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Especially for America. Yeah, how would it be important for anyone else? Yeah, it's very much a little I think Val might have been

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one of the wrestlers also

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who

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Val I think edge Christian

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JBL they all moved to the Bahamas that had to pay taxes. That makes sense. Yeah, if he's has that libertarian street

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Yes, I'll move to the Bahamas. They'd have to pay taxes

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He does say something ever like there'd be at one point was like what the fuck, you know

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You don't move in the Bahamas and they're like technically

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Technically, I live in the Bahamas. Yeah great thrilled thrilled that they're interested in engaging with the sort of social contract

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Contract and taking care of each other

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Boy, so Val Venus in this next clip gets into talking a little bit about the storyline that's going on with swagger

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And del Rio and it turns out he likes it. Okay, but the way he expresses him liking the story is a little unsettling

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Take something that's been adopted by the liberty movements by certain segments of the Tea Party

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That I mean that flag is meant to be flown in the face of oppressive government

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It's not meant to be flown at the border telling Mexicans

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Hey, don't don't tread on me. That's not what it was for was to tell government don't tread on me

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So to see that flag being used in the manner it's being used by WWE is disappointing to say the least

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I have a couple of pieces of very bad news for Val Venus hit him Dan first is that flag does fly at the border

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When people are you know yelling at immigrants and stuff like that and various elements of the Tea Party using it for that purpose

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It's been co-opted

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Yeah, and also my further piece of bad news is there are segments of the Tea Party that have adopted the swastika

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Yeah, so don't worry. Yeah, they'll see how you and stuff like that. They're not afraid to do this. Don't worry Val

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They haven't let you down. He might be a little bit prescient there

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He might have been seeing the future tiny and also what you'll notice with a lot of wrestlers. So at this time Val was probably

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Probably I mean I would say he might have still been

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So in wrestling the cell kid one more run left in him, right? You'll hear oftentimes

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Wrestlers who think they got one more good run left in them. They won't go hard on the derby. They'll be very

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You know very political because they want

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Like oh, you know, they want to go back. They all want to go races. They all want that one last run

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So a lot of times if you watch shows when something happens in wrestling, you know

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Like Nancy Grace when Chris Benoit killed his family than himself. Mm-hmm. They had wrestlers on some

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Who are you know part of the company? Of course, we're pro wb

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We this is a bad guy who did a bad thing

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It's not our fault

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But then you had other wrestlers on there who were like Debbie's the worst

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They just you know

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They know they're never going back and then you have other wrestlers who are like former wrestlers and they're like hey

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You probably have some bad stuff to say about them and they're like, nope great company

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You know and it's like okay. Mm-hmm and that's usually an indication that they they they want to keep that Avenue open

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Sure, they want to keep that door open. You never know

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I mean it makes some sense

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especially in that period of time where the

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WWE was the biggest game in town and really the only game in town really for money money for making big money

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Yeah game in town. So I mean just from from that perspective

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They're almost being held hostage by this corporate entity that is abusive and does in some ways contribute to the

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Deaths of these of folks sure. Yeah, that is a bummer

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well

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WWE kind of sucks, but you're hearing that from Val Venus like this some sort of little bit heating going real hard on him

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He keep be praised some things. I like the storyline of a racist trying to Mexican

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I mean, that's his Val being a little like dumb

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Yeah, I mean because I mean he really it didn't even have to say racist. Nope. That's true

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You know, it's more xenophobic. Mm-hmm than racist if we're choosing

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I'm not I'm not positive. I remember the entire

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Yeah, and I mean and and you know, there's some gray area. There's definitely

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There I'm sure there were definitely things that were like, whoo

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That's a little racist, right?

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And it's crazy to think that there's like writers in a meeting being like did we get too racist on that one?

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Are we still you know, like this I wonder be a racist conversation sure

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I bet they did I find that hard to believe I bet they're I bet they're they're

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Arguing over verbiage all the time because they script the promos so heavily now

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Yeah, man, and I think there's probably a lot of stuff where it's like yeah, can we say this?

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Hey USA Network, can we say no? Okay. I don't know

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So like I've been teasing or not teasing

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But I've been I've been telling you that like Val gets what's going on in terms of like

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Why are you using Glenn Beck's name and that sort of thing because you know that you want Glenn Beck to talk about you

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Yeah, and so he explains that exactly what?

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Vince McMahon is doing okay vis-a-vis that and there's an interesting irony that as he's explaining this

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Phenomenon and what Vince wants Dan Badandi is doing exactly that

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Oh nice and Darren McBreen is facilitating that by playing this interview that took place at a public library

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Yeah, and a car. Yeah in a parking lot right outside a gym

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But they're giving Vince McMahon exactly what he wants by

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Doing this and making a big deal out of it making a story out of it and make no mistake to for

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Valvena's this is kind of like his audition probably in his head of like hey if I knock this out of the park

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I'll be on infowars all the time. I would beg to differ just because of how little he seems to go

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I'll turn it. Well, maybe he doesn't know what it what it what this could turn into for him

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Maybe he's kicking himself going to half. I would have done better on

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I have no evidence that he ever actually made the big time. Look at Brodus Clay. He's a Fox News contributor

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I almost did some of those

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He's on great gut felled the red. Eye tells people he's getting his own show. Oh cuz he's so popular

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I mean, he's much better than a lot of other people on that show. Yeah, he has a lot of charm

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Yeah, I watched a couple of his like man on the street bits

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Yeah that he did and he actually had some pretty funny lines. Hey, I'll give him that god bless him

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Um, so here is Valvena's

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Explaining the marketing strategy that infowars has fallen for hook line and sinker

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During our Jack swag his match on Monday night watch two weeks ago

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Commentators Michael Cole and Jerry Walla. They said he gets tons of fan mail from Glenn Beck

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Rush Limbaugh, then they mentioned Alex Jones name twice. What are your thoughts on that?

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I mean are they is there something like they're trying to attack right-wing conservatives radio talk shows

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For profits

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Oh

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He's against the Federal Reserve who would have thunk it

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Yeah, so I mean that's a that's just a clear like I know the game

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Of course Dan, but Dondi you're you're an aspiring pro wrestler. You should fucking get the business

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You should understand what's going on here. I swear when I hear Dan, but Dondi talk

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I'll hear are just like all these wrestling podcasts or like you're just like what's this on YouTube or something?

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They're just like hey, it's Tony the wrestling guy

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Like I'm like man

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You'd think if he was like it's almost a parody of what this character would be like at infowars. Yes. It's yeah, it's bizarre

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Yeah, we got this wrestling guy and he I don't know what his deal is

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and then but Dondi and we're gonna talk about the you know, the Iron Sheik and then what he did for the

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Over the right-wing movement. So on Rob Michael Cole said something that I disagree with. What's your take Val Venus?

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It's a mess. I love the he mentioned Alex twice the other people once Alex twice that means double

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Yeah, absolutely. That means they care about Alex twice as much and they're trying to demonize him twice hard

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Absolutely twice as powerful. That's

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I you can't reach any other conclusion than that. It's such love me daddy

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Reporting he is trying to impress Alex for sure

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Oh, yeah, and you hear him repeating almost identical things that Alex says like talking points. Yeah

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Almost like he gets all of his information from Alex Wow

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So in this I'm gonna skip this next clip. Yeah. No, I'm not. No, come on. Let's hear it

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This it's not as relevant to anything. It's just Val Venus talking about some of his political beliefs

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Yeah, his damper Dondi asks him about what he thinks about guns

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I thought he'd slip in like who thinks gonna win at SummerSlam this weekend. Uh, no, come on. It's pre WrestleMania

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Oh, I saw we're at WrestleMania season. Yeah. Yeah, we got the big build. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he wants to know about guns

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Okay, and Val Venus. What do you know?

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Super opposed to anybody having any restrictions on their right to have a gun. Okay question your thoughts on gun control

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This same logic could be used to say have no laws or whatever you could attack any why just guns, right?

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Yeah bombs. Yeah, you know if you just outlaw bombs only criminals will have bombs. Mm-hmm

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It's not a good line of thinking now or like or that idea of like well if these wrestlers all got concussions

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That's on them because they decided to wrestle. Mm-hmm. You shouldn't have any money from the WV or anything

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It's a dumb it's a dumb line of thinking it's very consistent

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That's real life

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Absolutely, you know the statistics show that you know states that have less gun control have no little to no crime and you know

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You got Chicago New York who pride themselves on gun control, but have the worst murder rates and crime with guns

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And you look at Switzerland. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead and look at Switzerland, but Dondi

Unknown Speaker (00:58:58.000)

That's just an Alex Jones talking point. That isn't true. There was a recent study that came out in out of Stanford in 2017

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There's a study that this guy did I can't remember his name. But what he did is he looked at states that passed right-to-carry laws

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For guns and he found that states averaged a 13% increase in violent crime

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excluding other relevant variables and anything like that in the years after they posted or they

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Passed right-to-carry laws. So these sorts of ideas about more people having more guns means less crime

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It just doesn't stack up in terms of the real world

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So I think I think they mentioned Switzerland because that's why Cesaro joined the real America because he loves guns

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He loves guns. I think you nailed it take away our guns

Unknown Speaker (00:59:43.099)

It was not very fun of you the argument that they always have about Switzerland is like everyone has a gun there and there's no

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Crime. Yeah

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Whatever. Do you think there's another reason there might be I don't know

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So we have one last clip of Val Venis here and it's kids a short interview. I'll say this is very short

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Yeah, but Dondi wants some his some of his final thoughts. I'm curious if Dan but Dondi had to pay for this interview

Unknown Speaker (01:00:05.019)

Did he have to pay pal Val some money?

Unknown Speaker (01:00:06.699)

Do you think it was a cameo situation? I think it was a cameo situation

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Yeah, you'd have to PayPal me. That's why he couldn't afford the internet bill that month. I had to go do it at the library

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I'm taking a one taking a bath on this interview Val

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They shut my internet down. I gotta go the library probably Alex promised to help expense

Unknown Speaker (01:00:24.219)

You know just file an expense report send it to my dad. We need to get Val Venus on the show give it to Mike

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Give my dad a receipt at HR. He'll take care of it

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So it's important to remember that this is happening in early 2013. So it's only a couple months after Sandy Hook

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Yeah, which is really wild to me

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First of all that Dan but Dondi absolutely is an employee of infowars at this period of time

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I would love to hear that interview process where Alex goes. Yeah, you know what we could use a guy like you

Unknown Speaker (01:00:51.300)

I bet Alex refers him as like I got my pit bull but Dondi. I'll send him down there. I'll take care of this

Unknown Speaker (01:00:56.260)

You got it. Yeah, most people have to like succeed in a reporter contest. Yeah, and Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:01:02.820)

Funny enough has a little bit of a relationship with pro wrestling where he hired Dan, but donka donk or whatever. His name is here

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Remember the guy in Seattle who threw the coffee on him. Yeah. Yeah, that was a work. He's a pro wrestler

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Well, are we sure it was a stunt? I have wrestlers who have told me that's a stunt. Okay

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I knew that he was like a wrestling promoter and maybe a clown of some sort

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But I wasn't sure that I mean that doesn't prove that it's fake

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But if you've heard I've heard from the dirt sheep, I've heard from

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Sources, uh-huh close to me that gets some white papers that that was a work. Okay. I'm willing to believe that

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I have no reason to believe it was real but I mean whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if you were gonna do that

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That's what you would do. She would use a wrestler guy. Sure. Maybe sure so

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Badandi

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Asks Val Venus what your final thoughts are you got anything to close this out this wonderful groundbreaking interview?

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And it's interesting where Val's head goes

Unknown Speaker (01:01:57.659)

um, we're almost out of time in the final comments responsible adults not one single responsible adult in Sandy Hook

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That had a firearm a personal firearm how many lives could have been saved how many lives could have been saved if just one responsible adult had to have exercised their rights in the Second Amendment in the Constitution and just carried a firearm with them everywhere they went. I mean it's much better the old saying goes it's much better to have a gun and never need it than to desperately need a gun and not have it.

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Now it's former WWE superstar Val Venus as you can see folks the Liberty Movement is under attack

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It's very vital and very important that we all must take part of this Liberty Movement

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And this is a damn good time to report that info was nightly news. I

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Think he clearly proved that the Liberty Movement is under attack by a character in a pro wrestling storyline

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But that really was not on point there. Yeah all over the place. Oh, totally

Unknown Speaker (01:03:10.460)

I think that that last clip though is kind of like the best

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Indication of what you were talking about like Val trying to be like a little bit of a tryout because that's that's pretty

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Real like that's the kind of thing Alex loves to share the idea that someone who has some sort of vague celebrity being like yeah

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There should have been a gun at that school. Yeah, cuz then they could have killed that kid

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Maybe all the who was shooting everybody maybe all the weeds chilled them out. I don't know

Unknown Speaker (01:03:33.900)

Yeah, I wonder I haven't heard anything lately from the old Val Boesky. I that's I

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I don't know. I mean, I think a lot of these people Willie Nelson smokes a lot of weed

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He still talked to Alex. Sure. I'm sure Jesse Ventura smokes a bunch of yeah, he talks about it

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He's a lot of weed. He still talked to Alex

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Although it granted those two are people who don't put up with all of Alex's bullshit

Unknown Speaker (01:03:55.760)

No, I think they don't cosign on everything. Not every hey, man. You're saying some weird shit

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I think I'm gonna get out of here, but you take it easy

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Yeah

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So we've we've come to the end of the Val Boesky interview and I don't know if you have any

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Much like he had a closing thought that there should have been a gun at Sandy Hook

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Or the teachers who are just trying to teach finger painting or maybe multiplication tables if one of them had a goddamn

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Derringer in their boot. Yeah, then you know some teachers that sure we did comedy with that

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You know, I'm sure I could see a lot of them with guns just taken out

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My dad is a professor at UT Austin and he's horrified by the idea of like people being like well if you had a gun

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Yeah, stop a shooting on campus. Yeah, how dare you have you talked to something?

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We have a friend named Jeannie Dugan who's a teacher in Chicago. Yeah, and

Unknown Speaker (01:04:40.260)

Also a great comedian. Yeah, she has a bit about like I'm not gonna like you don't pay me enough to

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Be armed and try to take out somebody like nah, not gonna happen. Yeah, it seems insane

Unknown Speaker (01:04:50.280)

the the expectation that the people have of like what the ideal situation is if there's all teachers have guns

Unknown Speaker (01:04:57.699)

Yeah, and the the more likely thing is like, I don't know

Unknown Speaker (01:05:00.719)

Yeah, what about a stray shot? I would like what about an accidental discharge of your gun now you shoot some kid

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I would like to say hey Val, how do you feel about?

Unknown Speaker (01:05:09.679)

You know if you were on the active roster

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And and these buildings were like, yeah, you can bring a gun. No problem

Unknown Speaker (01:05:16.599)

How all fans should be on how comfortable would you feel wrestling at Madison Square Garden or the all-state arena here nearby, Chicago?

Unknown Speaker (01:05:24.719)

If everybody had a gun or even in George, why do you think that Georgia referenced in there?

Unknown Speaker (01:05:28.519)

That was like very weird, you know, like maybe he has a farm. There's like some weird little city. I mean, it's Georgia

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It's the same thing. We saw with Ted Nugent like he

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Preaches about how everyone should have guns. They should be everywhere. Yeah, he had that concert but not my concert exactly

Unknown Speaker (01:05:41.840)

You know my concert and I'm gonna be armed. I'm gonna my security will be are but you guys can't

Unknown Speaker (01:05:46.239)

Yeah, and that's but but you'll never hear that all you'll hear from the info war side is well

Unknown Speaker (01:05:50.639)

Yeah, Beyonce's got armed guards, but she's anti-gun. She wants to take your guns, but she has guys like Dan

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Badonkadon who want to kill Beyonce. So I

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The argument about like people have an armed guard like celebrities having guards and stuff like that

Unknown Speaker (01:06:04.280)

Yeah, I don't see what the problem is with that. Those people are often nops. They're often like off-duty cops

Unknown Speaker (01:06:09.880)

Yeah, picking up an extra. They're not social studies teacher or they're licensed

Unknown Speaker (01:06:14.360)

Yeah, there are like social studies teachers and the lunch lady right with guns. Yeah, that's nuts

Unknown Speaker (01:06:19.079)

Yeah, we just had a guy at the Hall of Fame the last week

Unknown Speaker (01:06:22.460)

Oh, yeah, mania ran in the ring and tried to attack Bret Hart. Luckily. He didn't have any weapons on him

Unknown Speaker (01:06:26.900)

What have he had been armed? What if he had a knife? What if he had a gun?

Unknown Speaker (01:06:30.679)

Yeah, it's crazy. So is that your final thought on Val Venus?

Unknown Speaker (01:06:35.679)

Yeah, I mean pretty par for the course

Unknown Speaker (01:06:39.000)

Classic, you know old wrestler. Mm-hmm a little bit of an audition for a job. Maybe possibly in wrestling

Unknown Speaker (01:06:45.239)

They call it getting your shit in you know, like if you and I were wrestling

Unknown Speaker (01:06:47.920)

I'm gonna make sure I do all my cool moves, right?

Unknown Speaker (01:06:50.079)

I get my catchphrase in and then we can finish them. You want to be sure that the showcase is about you?

Unknown Speaker (01:06:54.760)

Yeah, I want to make sure people see what I bring to the table. Mm-hmm short interview

Unknown Speaker (01:06:58.920)

I part of me thinks Val really didn't give a shit and was fucking this albatross named Dan, but Dondi around

Unknown Speaker (01:07:05.079)

He can't shine

Unknown Speaker (01:07:06.159)

He might have thought like I'm gonna talk to Alex and then maybe you think Dan but Dondi starts talking and Val's probably like

Unknown Speaker (01:07:12.440)

This is like every other wrestling dipshit. I've talked to but Dondi. Are you at a library? Yeah, but Dondi

Unknown Speaker (01:07:17.980)

Are you in a library? Yeah, this is just like dropkicks and DDT's that podcast. I just did an hour ago. I

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Had a feeling when I listened to this of like at the beginning I kind of was excited. Mm-hmm

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Cuz I'm like wow Venus what's he gonna say? Yeah, and then at the end I was like

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Why did I expect anything other than this? Yeah, and I think Val's in that in that wrestler mentality to of like

Unknown Speaker (01:07:41.340)

Get your name out there. Don't say no to anything

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You never know what could be the next big thing for your career while simultaneously keeping like good graces of WWE

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It's act he didn't say anything like yeah, fuck them. They're the worst

Unknown Speaker (01:07:52.739)

That's what they doing racist storytelling because they want to trigger you knob still still still available to come back. Mm-hmm Marty

Unknown Speaker (01:07:59.460)

This has been fun. Yeah, I've had such a fun time. This has been a fun time

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I hope I didn't bore people with all the all the wrestling

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I think that there's a heavy crossover of you know, some people who listen to our show don't look don't like wrestling that much

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But there's a number of wrestling fans

Unknown Speaker (01:08:12.500)

I always get like I get messages a lot of the time talk more about right like you

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So this is an opportunity for those people to get satisfied. I feel like you can learn a lot from

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wrestling

Unknown Speaker (01:08:23.579)

Alex is just pro wrestling to an extent. Yeah, there's no doubt about I mean in terms of that strategy

Unknown Speaker (01:08:29.300)

of like trying to get people to talk about him in order to get the publicity what Val Venus talked about is it's exactly what

Unknown Speaker (01:08:34.760)

Alex does Alex is like Bret Hart during the Stone Cold Steve Austin feud where?

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Bret Hart was a bad guy in America in the United States, but he was a hero in Canada

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Right, Alex is the same way. He's this bad guy

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Everybody outside of info wars bubble. Uh-huh, you know everyone else takes out

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Oh, they all think I'm this bad person, but you people you all know you good

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American fighter a good fight. We're being attacked by Zeb Colter and

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The I'm doing the right thing else play flattered. Oh, he's through I would assume that well

Unknown Speaker (01:09:09.199)

I mean he had to think like this is a good way for me to also

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Symbiotically get yes sure because they've said my name

Unknown Speaker (01:09:16.600)

Yeah, that gives me the opening to attack them and then they'll probably make fun of that

Unknown Speaker (01:09:21.359)

That'll get me even more attention or they'll have to send their wrestlers to my show and then they'll put it on their show

Unknown Speaker (01:09:26.579)

Like cuz they love being like oh this week John Cena was on the Good Morning America

Unknown Speaker (01:09:30.119)

I don't know if that ever happened. No, I'm gonna assume it didn't happen

Unknown Speaker (01:09:35.039)

Because valid Venus is here. Yeah, he never comes on Alex's

Unknown Speaker (01:09:38.399)

Yeah

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cuz once they once again going back to the the real American thing once they put out that video and stuff like

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That pretty much ends it and their PR departments by just like hey, man

Unknown Speaker (01:09:47.720)

They made a statement and that's all we're gonna say about it. Yeah, I have a feeling they were probably like, yeah

Unknown Speaker (01:09:52.439)

It's probably isn't in our best interest and and what's what's super interesting to me is that this is early 2013

Unknown Speaker (01:09:59.600)

yeah, and that means that it's coming up pretty soon in our like we're

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Covering the fallout of Sandy Hook on our show. We're at like

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January 8th or so no January 5th

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2013 right now, but this is coming up soon Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger doing this stuff

Unknown Speaker (01:10:17.680)

We're going to get to see how Alex responds. So that'll be coming up in the

Unknown Speaker (01:10:22.880)

2013 investigation I'm excited to see how that plays out because Alex is gonna be freaking out on air

Unknown Speaker (01:10:27.600)

Oh, yeah, he's going to be doing that trying to make money out of this trying to find the right angle

Unknown Speaker (01:10:31.399)

Yeah, it's gonna be exciting. But Marty. Thanks for joining. Hey, thanks for having people can find your great podcast

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Marty and Sarah love wrestling. Yep, all over the place. Sure. Marty and Sarah love wrestling calm

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Protect the dot biz. Yes

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rumble rumble boys dot biz

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And then what else you got yet you had a Twitter yeah at Marty DeRosa, yeah

Unknown Speaker (01:10:54.000)

Yeah, yeah, it was fun to be on. Yeah. I'm a I'm a huge fan of the podcast. Well, thank you

Unknown Speaker (01:11:00.560)

I'm bummed that I won't be able to listen to this week's or this episode. Why not?

Unknown Speaker (01:11:04.279)

I don't listen to me and you talking we did it. Yeah, you kind of experienced it

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I did it but you can tune in and see what I cut out

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I would be mortified if I got a name wrong if I said, you know, you know, Gino Hernandez instead of Chris Adams

Unknown Speaker (01:11:15.680)

I wouldn't be able to forgive myself. No, you text me. I'm like, dude, you got to re-edit the episode, right?

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No

Unknown Speaker (01:11:22.199)

It's great. It was great to sit down great to chat. Great to see you again

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Like a week ago. Shout out to Raptor Princess Maria. Oh, absolutely. You got to give the Raptor Princess

Unknown Speaker (01:11:32.399)

Gotta pay your tributes to the Raptor Princess indeed. Um, so Marty we got to get out of here

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yeah, but before we do we got to choose who in this episode has not killed somebody and

Unknown Speaker (01:11:44.119)

Haha, I mean

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Velveenis probably not killed anybody probably not you know, what Cesaro definitely has not killed somebody even though

Unknown Speaker (01:11:53.840)

He swings people around like crazy. I go on the record here cuz I saw a couple names on there

Unknown Speaker (01:11:59.159)

I'm just like I don't know touch Del Rio. Who knows what Dutch has done back in the day

Unknown Speaker (01:12:03.840)

Well, you know what I can say for a fact

Unknown Speaker (01:12:06.439)

Antonio Cesaro aka Claudio Castagnoli has not murdered anybody but Marty, you know what someone who technically probably has

Unknown Speaker (01:12:13.939)

Yeah, that guy is Alex Jones

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you