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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,

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drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Who's your favorite in the Greek pantheon?

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Who's your god?

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Hephaestus.

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Hephaestus is your god?

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We've talked about this before.

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Have we?

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Yeah.

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God damn it.

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It's the only god that has a physical deformity and thus is the one that relates the most to

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humanity and the irony of him being married to Aphrodite, the goddess of love is married.

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I didn't know he was married to Aphrodite.

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I think she got around.

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But the goddess of love is married to the one crippled god.

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Okay.

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There's a great rich irony in the Greek mythology that goes with that.

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How about Norwegian?

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How about the Norse gods?

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Don't know much.

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Who do you got on the Norse gods?

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I don't fucking know.

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All right, fine.

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You got a famous Norwegian, a favorite Norwegian god?

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I don't know.

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I'm pretty stoked about Woden.

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He seems pretty cool.

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Okay.

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He's pretty woke.

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That's the closest to woke that you can get in god form.

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Just because of the word similarity?

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Pretty much.

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Okay.

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He likes Wednesday.

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All right.

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So Garfield, but a couple days later.

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I like it.

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Wait.

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No, Garfield hates Wednesdays.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So this is a podcast where I don't know all that much about the Norwegian pantheon, but

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I do know a lot about Alex Jones.

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And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones.

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Yeah, it's the fun.

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So, Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over.

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But before we do, I'd like to take a moment to say thank you to a couple of new people

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Thank you, Darren.

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Thanks, Darren.

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Next, Axiomatic.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, Axiomatic.

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Next, Jeff.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Thank you, Destin.

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Thank you very much, Destin.

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You are now a globalist.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Thank you, Anthony.

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Thank you very much, Anthony.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser, little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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We appreciate it very much.

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Yes, thank you very much, Beagle.

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So, Jordan, today what we're doing is we're getting back into business, I would say.

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You know, like the last couple episodes since we came back from our We Break have been the

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Deposition episode and then Mark Richards, Project Camelot episode.

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So there hasn't been like medialex, I would say, since we've come back.

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And so today we're jumping back into the present day of Alex Jones.

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And today we've got this episode here.

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What we're going to be doing is we're going to be going over April 4th, 2019.

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Something that I wanted to do or I kind of thought about doing was the idea of like going

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back through some of the stuff that happened while we were on break and stuff just to catch

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up to present day, as it were.

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Do like a compilation of the past week.

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Greatest hits.

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Greatest hits.

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Worst times.

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Greatest bad stuff.

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Like the albums that you might see at 3am on an infomercial.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Of the great, yeah, yeah.

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But those would be good songs, these would be trash.

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Right, right, right.

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This is now, that's what I call Music 44.

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Yeah, but I was sort of looking through some of it and I was like, well, you know,

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I was like, well, this is just not, we're going to get mired down in a bog if we do that.

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We're never going to get back to present day if we just constantly are like looking

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back in the rear view at something that might have been kind of fucked up that happened.

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Like Alex blaming the people at the chicken restaurant for him yelling at them.

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That sort of thing.

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Yeah.

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Well, all right.

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And Joe Rogan came on Alex's show and that's all good and well.

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That's, that's totally fun.

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Um, but I think one of the things that makes that not something I necessarily think we

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need to talk about all that much, there's two things.

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First is that when Joe comes on Alex's show, what's really going on is Joe is being fucked

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up and I don't, we're not a Joe Rogan show.

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Yeah.

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So we don't really need to deconstruct Joe being fucked up.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, when Alex goes on Joe's show, that's interesting for our purposes because that's

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about Alex.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Joe coming on Alex's show is kind of about Alex, but Alex is just saying the same shit

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he usually does and Joe's like, wow.

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So who gives a shit?

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Joe plays the Schroyer role on this one.

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To some extent.

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And then the second thing is that I went back and I listened to the, uh, March 25th episode,

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uh, the part where Rogan was on.

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And, uh, it's just a 20 minute segment of, uh, the one hour interview that he did with

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Rogan and it's entirely just based on the, uh, like you want to see the rest.

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It's on infowars.com.

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Nice.

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It's kind of a, it's kind of a teaser.

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It's a teaser for the, it's a trailer.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You put that out on his radio show in order to lure people to his website.

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And so it's just like, I don't, I don't care.

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I just don't want to get into it.

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I'd rather jump to a closer to the present since this is coming out on Monday and this

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will be last Thursday's episode.

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And honestly, I wanted to do Thursday and Friday.

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I wanted to do April 4th and 5th, but there's, there's too much on the 4th that I had to

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look into and I think is very important for our purposes.

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Um, and so unfortunately 5th had to take a back seat on this.

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Might get to it eventually.

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Um, oh shit.

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I forgot my mom's birthday.

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Oh, that was, uh, what a fucking asshole I am.

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That, uh, completely forgot that response was not, uh, the, I forgot my mom's birthday

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was not what I thought was coming after that.

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Oh shit.

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Well, I'm glad that we're going over this episode.

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So you can remember it.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm going to have to give everybody a call.

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You owe someone a phone call.

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It's both my brother and my mom's birthday.

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You may not have to give them a phone call because as we learned in this first clip,

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we might not be here too long.

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It's Thursday, April 4th, 2019, I'm your host Alex Jones.

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Well, I just walked in there about two minutes ago before we went live and I wrote the headline

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for the page we post every day that has the show in it so that people can share the audio

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and video link.

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And the headline states the facts.

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The planet is only six months away from total civilizational collapse.

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That is fast.

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Right.

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So if you can put off this call for six months, it won't really matter.

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Birthdays will be a concept that we do not have time for anymore.

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I agree.

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Civilization collapses.

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Yeah.

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Um, I hope he expands on that.

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Not sure he will.

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Uh, but, uh, certainly something to be afraid of.

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Uh, in his next clip, Alex, uh, introduces into the proceedings of this April 4th, 2019,

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episode, uh, demons, um, visa V Kanye West, who, if you recall, uh, not a couple of months

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ago, Alex was trying to get Kanye on his show desperately and, uh, really trying to get,

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he's like, he's going to free all the black people from the democratic plantation.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Alex's tune has changed a little bit.

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Kanye is just doing what the universe told him to do.

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See, there's not just good in the universe.

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Some people are doing what the dark side is telling them.

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Some people are being given very twisted, evil ideas by entities sworn to destroy all

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human life on this planet.

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That's what all the ancient culture said.

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It's what the Bible says.

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It's what Judaism says.

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It's even what Islam says.

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So demons are telling Kanye West to do something.

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I don't know.

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You're the guy who knows, uh, uh, the pop culture a little bit more than me.

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Did Kanye do something recently that Alex is mad about?

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Not that I'm really aware of, although I do believe that Kanye has at least talked to

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demons.

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That's certainly there.

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He has a dark twisted fantasy that came to him from demonic sources.

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Nicely done.

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Thanks.

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Um, so I, I think that this is just about the idea that, uh, Kanye was like saying that,

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like, slavery wasn't a big deal before.

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And then he's like, that was fucked up.

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I shouldn't have said that.

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Alex is, I think he's trying to say that like Kanye not saying those things anymore, uh,

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for a bit now.

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Means there's demons.

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Demons.

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That sounds right.

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Yeah.

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That's just, it's just a big giant on off switch for Alex.

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It's like Kanye does something good.

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Kanye is the greatest human being that's ever, ever been.

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Kanye does something he doesn't like.

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Kanye's controlled by demons.

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Two weeks from now, Kanye could call Trump up and be like, Hey, give me a, give me a

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shout out for 808s and heartbreaks.

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And he'll be like, he's the best.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's a, it's weird.

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I don't know exactly what's going on here.

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And, uh, in terms of all of the stuff that I like to look into, this isn't one of them.

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So I just decided to leave that alone.

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But it is, it's very important.

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Uh, the Kanye part isn't, but the people listening to demons part is very important because it

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informs some of the stuff that's coming up on this episode.

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Um, in this next clip, Alex talks about, uh, Plato, uh, not the kid's toy, uh, the, uh,

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philosopher, um, and indicates that he knows nothing about, uh, Plato.

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By the way, everything Plato wrote about almost all of it, they've dug up or found now.

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Despite the Bible, they keep digging up cities and fighting tombs and proving all of it.

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But there's one part he wrote about that they never found.

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And that was Atlantis in the Atlantic ocean, an Island that had flying machines and an

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energy source that glowed white light.

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That was its power that exploded.

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And then for years it was freezing cold and the sky was dark because of all the dust in

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the air.

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How would someone know what really happens like that?

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Great movie.

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Think he knew a little bit more, don't you think?

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Fantastic.

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Old Plato might've been talking to somebody.

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He fixes boilers.

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Keeps the little horns and little teeth hidden.

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That's so you don't get scared.

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And so you see, that's what this all comes down to.

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And everybody knows the devil's real and the globalist had made a deal with the devil.

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Period.

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Period.

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So some important pieces of this.

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You're right.

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That is Disney's Atlantis.

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That is not Plato's Atlantis.

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The Plato only talked about Atlantis a couple times in Timaeus and Critias is two dialogues.

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And none of that stuff is in there.

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In fact, the destruction of Atlantis by Plato's telling of it has to do with the fact that

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they got into a war.

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The Atlanteans, they got a little bit too big for their britches and the people of Athens

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had to put them down.

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And so they went in and the Atlanteans, although they were a smaller city state, were able

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to take out the Atlanteans and then the gods punished them with earthquakes and stuff like

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that.

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It wasn't a white glowing power source that exploded and flying machines and all that

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bullshit.

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That's totally Disney.

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Also, I love the idea of him just saying like, and they've dug up all that he's written.

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Like, what are you?

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No, no, no.

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What archaeologist is like?

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I think he's saying like all the cities that are mentioned in Plato and stuff like that.

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Oh, they dug up all the cities that Plato has mentioned.

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The locations.

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Okay.

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I think that's what he's saying.

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I thought he was talking about everything that Plato's ever written.

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They were like, we got it.

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Like the idea of an archaeologist being like, yep, that was the last one.

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Check it off our list.

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We're good.

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Yeah.

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There's a, it's like a video game with a missions list.

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All the Plato's writings you have to find.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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But then also the other thing too is Alex is like, you think Plato might've been talking

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to somebody?

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And I was like, if you read Timaeus and Critias, you would know why he knows this information.

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It's very clear in there.

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And that is that Solon, the legendary ruler in ancient Greece, he went and spoke with

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the Egyptians.

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He went over to Egypt and spoke to the Egyptians.

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He got the story of Atlantis from the Egyptians, came back and told Plato's grandfather, I

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believe.

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And that's how it got passed down to Plato.

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That's, it's clear the lineage of information in Plato's writings is clear.

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He's not talking to demons though.

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It is very important again to mention that Alex is saying that they hide their teeth

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and wings so they don't scare you.

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That is an important thing for them to do.

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That is important.

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Yeah.

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So hold on to that thought as we jump in.

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So Alex is stupid.

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He doesn't, he's never read Plato.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Hold on.

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Quick question.

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Yeah.

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Are you hiding your teeth and wings from me?

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I'm not, but we will get into where he gets that idea from in this next clip.

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The veneer of civilization is almost gone, the purposeful take down of the planet, right

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as we prepare to go to jump point, not just to the stars, but to other dimensions.

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Jump point alpha?

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The establishment's obsessed with the technology they've got.

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They're obsessed with the breakaway civilization, but they've got life extension.

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They've already got everything for all intents and purposes.

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They found forms of immortality and they're able to push off death.

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So far, they believe they'll have true immortality within 50 years.

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And so we're just an afterthought.

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You see, globalism was always meant to fail, but for the acolytes, the sub level, not the

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actual elite, but the sub-oids, the professors, the technicians, they believe they're taking

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over the earth to save the planet.

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And it's their right to rule and organize society.

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That's why they're going to reduce population.

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If you're just a kind of a mid-level person, you're told 80%.

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If you're higher level, you're told 90%.

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If you're really high level, you're told 99% of humans will be taken out.

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And if you're in that maybe 2,000 people that have been given the whole ball of wax, the

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whole picture, you're told humans are an abomination.

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Of course.

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And our God says he will give us the codes to merge with silicon and truly live forever

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with him.

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That sounds fun.

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And be uploaded to the consciousness and then move on to the next planet.

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You're like, wait a minute, I read an Arthur C. Clark book called childhood's end that

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the whole media pushed and loved.

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And it was so good.

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And the whole wonderful Arthur C. Clark was in the real Illuminati groups that they just

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use Crowley to put out some of their info naturally.

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He was in MI6, OSS before that total highest level.

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So see, you read those books, you watch those movies and let me explain something to you.

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They're telling you how the cow ate the cabbage.

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You understand?

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With his mouth?

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They're telling you how the cow ate the cabbage.

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Alex loves that expression.

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So Jordan, that clip made me feel like a fool in a way that few Alex Jones clips ever have

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simply because it made me remember something I'd forgotten and that I really should have

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remembered.

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I read childhood's end, the 1953 sci-fi novel by Arthur C. Clark back in junior high.

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But unfortunately, the details are a little bit murky in my mind.

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I remember that it was about an alien invasion that was benevolent that led to the destruction

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of the planet.

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But past that, it was kind of a little bit gray.

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So when Alex brought up the book in that clip, I decided that maybe I needed to revisit the

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text.

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And when I did, I realized that Alex very well may be basing most of his worldview and

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his conception of the power behind the globalists on childhood's end.

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Have you ever read it?

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No, I have not read it.

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Okay, good.

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I wasn't a big Arthur C. Clark guy.

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I wasn't a huge fan either.

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But I wasn't totally huge on sci-fi as I got into late junior high, into high school.

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That wasn't sort of my cup of tea.

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But I had read...

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I was a vociferous reader when I was younger.

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But unfortunately, because I read a lot of things before I was probably old enough to

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really internalize a lot of them, I've lost my memory of a ton of shit I read.

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And childhood's end was one of them.

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But I just read it yesterday because I was like, I need to get into this.

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I need to see what Alex is talking about.

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So if you haven't read it, and spoiler alert here for childhood's end, the book is about...

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It ends childhood.

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It does.

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So also there's a sci-fi network series based on it that was apparently disappointing a

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couple of years back.

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But the book is about a future where the countries of Earth are at the brink of nuclear war by

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way of militarizing space race, which promises to destroy the planet.

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Before the trigger could be pulled, alien ships appear and the nuclear war gets put

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on the back burner.

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These aliens say that they're going to be supervising Earth to make sure that we don't

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bring extinction upon ourselves.

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And since there are a ton of spaceships over major cities, humanity goes along with the

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plan.

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The aliens, called the Overlords, are in charge of the major issues of the world, but they're

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not enslaving humanity at all.

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The only direct interference that they have are in international relations issues.

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And other than that, outside of the sphere of international relations, they only interfere

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twice in humanity's affairs.

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Wants to outlaw bullfighting because it's a barbaric practice and wants to relieve the

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persecution of the white minority in post-apartheid South Africa.

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Because at the time that he wrote this book, there was the perception of apartheid is going

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to end and then it's all going to be flipped and the white minority there is going to be

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brutally repressed.

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Oh, if only.

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And so he imagined that being the state of it and these aliens, the Overlords that Arthur

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C. Clark had conceived of, would think that that was such an inhumane situation that they

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would try and rectify things.

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And unsurprising that the alien race known as the Overlords would be supporting the Swede

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Landers.

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A little bit on the nose there.

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I think, but that's a future he didn't know.

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I know, I know, it's just fun.

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So the Overlord supervisor, Carolyn, only speaks directly to the Secretary General of

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the United Nations, which is where we get one of our first connections to Alex's worldview.

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Alex believes that the globalists, among whom the leadership of the UN are bigwigs, they

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take their orders from an off-world race, an idea that is a very basic piece of childhood's

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end and the storyline thereof.

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Though Carolyn speaks to the Secretary General, he won't allow him to see his physical form.

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The Secretary General presses on the issue saying that humanity won't be horrified of

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them and likely won't fully trust the Overlords if they can't see them.

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Carolyn discusses the idea with his superiors and decides to promise to show their true

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form to humanity after 50 years, a point at which humans will have gotten used to the

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Overlords being around and it won't be so shocking for them to see their true form.

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Those naive Overlords.

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When the time comes, the Overlords appear to man and they look exactly like the traditional

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image of demons.

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This is the second direct mirror to Alex's worldview.

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He believes that off-world entities that are giving orders to the globalists are actually

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demons who don't want you to think that they're demons.

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We heard it earlier in that clip where he said they're hiding their teeth and wings

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so you don't see and you don't get afraid.

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That tension, the concept of masking the image of looking like a demon to gain people's

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trust is an idea that he almost certainly lifted wholesale from this book.

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Almost entirely.

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That's fascinating.

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Yeah.

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And it gets weirder.

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Do you know it's a weird coincidence?

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I remember this now.

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The Secretary General in Childhood's End is Ban Ki-moon.

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Isn't that crazy?

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He got that one right.

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It was so weird.

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It's Ricky Stormbane or something like that.

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All right.

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I can't remember exactly his last name.

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Stormbringer.

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Yeah, it's very close.

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So the Overlords guide humanity through a number of years of prosperity and peace, but

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ultimately mankind feels uninspired and like they're losing something that makes them

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vibrant.

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So an artist's colony has established an opposition to the Overlords, although the Overlords

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don't really care that people are doing it, on an island called New Athens.

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The colony is supposed to be a utopian place where humanity can thrive, but ultimately

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the inhabitants there blow themselves up with a nuclear bomb, which I think is where Alex

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is getting his ideas about what happened to Atlantis from that we heard earlier in this

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episode.

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Oh boy.

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Yeah.

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If only he was really into Beneath the Planet of the Apes.

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That would be more fun.

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I'm not saying he's not.

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Yeah.

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He might be.

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I mean, if he had an unexploded nuclear bomb underneath his house that he worshipped, that

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would make just as much sense as anything else he says.

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It could be, yeah.

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So I'm skipping over a lot of stuff here, but it ends up being the case that the Overlords

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aren't necessarily here to help humanity as much as they are here to usher us into the

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next phase of our evolution.

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They serve the orders of something called the Overmind, which is a godlike entity that's

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made up of ascended elements of other species from throughout the planet.

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Oh, sorry, throughout the universe, all kinds of other planets.

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The Overlords' mission was to facilitate the inevitable ascension of humanity into the

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Overmind.

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They're the cosmic midwives, unable to ascend into the Overmind themselves, only able to

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experience the divine process vicariously.

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This also mirrors Alex's ideas about the globalists lacking some spark that humanity has, something

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that they envy.

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It's not so clear from the text that the Overlords are particularly mad or jealous of

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humanity's ability to become one with the Overmind, but knowing Alex's psychology, it's

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easy to see how he would project that onto these characters in the book.

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Yeah, of course.

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That they're somehow bitter about the fact that they can't become one with the Overmind,

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they just have to serve the Overmind and help us become one with the Overmind.

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And it's not like a manipulation.

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That was something that was going to happen.

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That that ascendance was happening one way or the other.

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They were just there to help the process go smoothly.

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They're not doing it to us or something like that.

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But Alex, as a suspicious guy, could easily read the book and be like, they did that shit.

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They knew it.

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They made the kids psychic.

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I think that's one of the reasons that I was never a big Arthur C. Clarke fan, is the lack

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of creative naming.

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Like the overlords, the Overmind, what day is it?

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You're asking me the overtime.

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It's all going to be there.

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But he also cribbed a lot of these ideas from another book from the 1930s that someone else

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wrote or expanded on the ideas that he had read other places.

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It's not like outright theft or anything like that.

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No, no, no, no.

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I think the book was good.

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I enjoyed it and everything, but I also thought it had some structural problems.

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It's not the best book ever.

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Even best sci-fi book.

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But some of the ideas I think are really interesting and worth exploring.

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So anyway, the becoming one with the Overmind happens because the children of Earth begin

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to express psychic abilities that evolve pretty quickly, and they become more and more of

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a unified entity.

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All of these individual children become one.

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The sort of metaphor that they use is the idea of like islands, while the ocean is there,

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appear to be separate things.

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But if the ocean disappears, you see them as connected through the bottom of the ocean.

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You see that all the islands are actually the same landmass.

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That's what happens to these children.

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They all become one and become completely a different thing than the rest of humanity.

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Well, that's fun.

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The Overlords are not doing this to the children.

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They are just there to usher through the process that's happening with or without them.

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However, the misrepresentation that they're somehow affecting the children of Earth is

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completely in line with Alex's beliefs about how the globalists are targeting the children

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and trying to change them through the water, through hormones, these sorts of things.

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And all the attacks on the children and the family very clearly mirrored in a misreading

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of childhood's end.

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Yeah.

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In the end, the Earth is destroyed, not by the Overlords, by the way, but the Earth is

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destroyed, and the children mature enough to ascend into oneness with the Overmind.

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The Overlords move on to await their next mission from the Overmind, the next species

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that they'll be tasked with aiding in their ascension.

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The last human, Jan Roderix, escapes the chaos on Earth by stowing away in a supply ship

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that goes back to the Overlords' planet.

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There, he has a conversation with some of the aliens about what's going on and realizes

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there's nothing left for him at all.

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He has no hope of ascending with the evolved children.

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There are no more humans left, and he can't very well become an Overlord, or what kind

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of an existence would he have if he just went along with them to the next planet that they

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go - and they're functionally immortal, like the Overlords live forever, he wouldn't

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even make it to the next planet, probably.

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So he has nothing left.

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So he decides to witness the end of Earth, the end of the planet, and report back to

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the Overlords about the experience as it happens, because they have cameras watching the planet,

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but they don't know experientially what it's like for the end of the planet to happen.

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So he's staying on the planet in order to experience the destruction of the planet.

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And because he realizes that the Overlords weren't some sort of nefarious force, he's

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giving them whatever information could be helpful to them.

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Yeah, sure.

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So that's how he decides to die.

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Everybody has a purpose.

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But before that happens, he has this exchange with Rasha Varek, another one of the Overlords.

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Quote, tell me this then, Jan said.

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Here's something else you've never explained.

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When your race first came to Earth back in the distant past, what went wrong?

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Why had you become the symbol of fear and evil to us?

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Rasha Varek smiled.

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He didn't do this as well as Kerelin could, but it was a fair imitation.

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Quote, no one ever guessed.

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And you see now why we could never tell you.

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There was only one event that could have made such an impact upon humanity.

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And that event was not at the dawn of history, but at the very end.

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Quote, what do you mean, asked Jan.

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Quote, when our ships entered your skies a century and a half ago, that was the first

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meeting of our two races.

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Though, of course, we had studied you from a distance.

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And yet you feared and recognized us as we knew that you would.

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It wasn't precisely a memory.

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You have already had proof that time is more complex than your science ever imagined.

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We call it overtime.

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For that memory was not of the past, but of the future, of those closing years when your

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race would know everything was finished.

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We did what we could, but it wasn't an easy end.

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And because we were there, we became identified with your race's death.

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Yes, even while it was 10,000 years in the future.

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It's as if a distorted echo had reverberated around the closed circle of time from the

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future to the past.

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Call it not a memory, but a premonition.

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The idea was hard to grasp.

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And for a moment, Jan wrestled with it in silence.

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Yet he should have been prepared.

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He had already received proof enough that cause and effect could reverse in their normal

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sequence.

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There must be such a thing as racial memory.

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And that memory is somehow independent of time.

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To it, the future and the past are one.

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That is why, thousands of years ago, man had already glimpsed a distorted image of the

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overlords through a mist of fear and terror.

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Alex's idea of race memory don't make sense when you think about it being an expression

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of epigenetics.

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And he always talks about the ideas being something much more complicated and grander

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than just instincts.

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What he believes doesn't line up with anything real, but it lines up perfectly with a concept

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expressed in Childhood's End.

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I think that Alex just believes that science fiction books are real.

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And Childhood's End is a giant piece that explains so much of what Alex believes about

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the entities that are behind the globalists that he's against.

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And I feel really stupid, not stupid, but I wish I had remembered that book better months

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and months ago as we were going through this, because I think a lot of our confusion could

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have been dismissed with like, he's just talking about fucking Arthur C. Clarke.

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He just thinks that's real.

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But I think it's reasonable for you to have missed that.

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And let me tell you why.

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Because I was like 13 when I read it?

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No, because this adds another book to the list of books that Alex has read.

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And that is a shock every time.

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That goes, we went from four to five.

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That's a 25% increase.

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I think he was probably super literate when he was younger.

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Like I don't think, I think that his inability to read or his unwillingness to read is probably

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a more recent feature of his life.

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I think probably in junior high and high school, he was probably like a really huge science

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fiction fan.

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I think that he was a Satanist as well.

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It's true.

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Satanism, science fiction, one in the same.

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The dreams of men.

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That's all Satanism is.

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That's true.

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I think that if we were a little bit more critical of him, I think we would end up finding

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almost everything that he thinks is real that sounds stupid.

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Is in a sci-fi book from the seventies.

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Yeah.

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Or fifties, sixties.

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Like it's just all old science fiction.

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All right.

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We got a new book club, Dan.

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I think we do.

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Figure out what the hell it is Alex thinks.

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Right.

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Start with Asimov and move on from there.

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I think Asimov might've been too hard for him.

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Might've been, that's possible.

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I think he probably sticks to the more pop pulp kind of serialized authors.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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So I think that this is crazy.

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I think it's incredibly stupid.

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And reading that book was just like, ah, there's that.

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Oh my God.

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I can't believe they talk about racial memory in this book that clearly like, if it was

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just a book that talked about racial memory, I wouldn't be like, I'd be like, all right.

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That's one thing.

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But the fact that it's the same book where you have an alien race that communicates with

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the UN, it involves messing with the quote unquote, messing with the children, the demise

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of the planet, the races and, uh, the idea of them hiding their appearance.

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Cause they look like what we think of as demons.

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Yeah, like all of that is so much Alex in one, um, concentrated burst.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It was nuts.

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There's a real revelation for me.

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Yeah.

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The, uh, the, the Hodor twist.

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That's uh, that's nice.

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I like that at the end.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, this leads to Alex saying that you got to follow God, which I mean, this

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might as well just be an overzealous, uh, religious program at this point.

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That's something that the, uh, overlords did all the time.

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That is not, they did a lot of overzealous things.

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I'm not sure they did.

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They were very restrained as Alex is not in this clip.

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Now you can say this is some psychotic group that just has these visions and created these

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entities in their minds as an alter ego that they communicate with in their giant psychosis

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to carry out these operations against us.

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But one way or the other, the heads of the major intelligence agencies and all these

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other groups believe they're following the orders of a eternal being that they believe

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is God.

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The over mind.

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Now there are more and more groups who are saying we don't want to go with that God and

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kill everybody.

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They're trying to override it.

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Go with Jesus.

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That's the real God, not Lucifer, not the devil that Arthur C. Clark, the globalist,

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the eugenicist.

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Cut off by a commercial break there.

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He's a little over the top.

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It's not this fake God that Arthur C. Clark.

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Do you like bacon?

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God damn.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, I guess what Alex believes that the opposite forces in the world are, are

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Jesus and science fiction entities that are real.

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Great.

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I don't understand.

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Like, I can't imagine, like, I can't imagine anybody taking this shit seriously.

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Like it's, it's pretty embarrassing.

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Like his actual beliefs that he's espousing.

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I get embarrassed that we do this show to a certain extent when I hear stuff like that.

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But then I remind myself that what's important isn't like debunking his worldview because

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it's, it's an embarrassing act to do.

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I still enjoy doing it sometimes because you get to learn little things.

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You've never read Childhood's End.

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No, I haven't.

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I'm sure some people listening hadn't either.

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But the important thing is cutting through the effect that he has on the world as opposed

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to how stupid this bullshit is.

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Right.

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And so that's why I'm glad that this next clip leads us into that territory.

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When Alex comes back, he starts talking about the idea that, you know, there's an essential

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difference between Christians and non-Christians, even if you are genetically the same.

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So like a genetically similar Christian and non-Christian, there's a fundamental difference

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between the two of them.

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And this is, this is going to lead me to something I'm pretty, pretty mad about.

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You can have the exact same Africans in Rwanda.

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There's many other cases all over the world.

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You have the exact same people, same genetics.

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Why'd you pick Africans?

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People all, very similar genetics.

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Why'd you pick Rwanda?

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And you'll have one tribe that's animist or Islamic or anything else, and they just can't

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get their act together.

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And then you'll have a tribe that's Christian.

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And they always produce, on average, 20 times the prosperity of any other group.

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20 times.

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He says 20 times more.

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So like at the end there, Alex is like framing this commentary as being about how Christians

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are more productive than animists or Muslims, even if the groups are genetically similar.

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I would suspect that he's just making that up because I, he goes on to say that he's

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not even talking about mainline Glitterbug Christians.

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He's talking about, quote, real Christians, which is something that's only vaguely defined

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even by him, if at all.

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So I have no idea how anyone would be able to study that in order to produce productivity

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statistics for real Christians versus genetically similar animists.

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Is PragerU picking out the real Christians and then they're doing a GDP basis on that?

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It's a bizarre idea for like a Pew Research study.

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I don't understand how that would work.

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Like one of those BuzzFeed quizzes.

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What kind of Christian are you?

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Not real or real?

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How productive are you?

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Let's go from there.

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It's ludicrous, and I'm pretty sure he's making it up, and I don't really have any

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interest in discussing it.

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My sense of it, because I've listened to a ton of him, is he's using productivity there

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as kind of a placeholder to talk about relative value of people.

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Yeah.

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There's that, and I want to take a moment to discuss it because, like I said, it falls

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in line with this thing that Alex does all the time where he likes to create the perception

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that if there's a group of Christians living next to a group of Muslims, or animists I

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guess in this case, invariably the Christian group will be upright great citizens and the

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Muslims will try to fuck with them and then try and collapse civilization, as Alex has

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informed us is six months away.

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That sounds right.

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So that is something that pervades a ton of his rhetoric, not just this clip.

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It's something that is a piece of his worldview that he's expressing in the auspices of discussing

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productivity there, but that's not what this is about.

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And what makes this sentiment that he expresses in this clip particularly fucked up is like

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you responded to, he uses the example of Rwanda.

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The reason this is a problem is there was that whole genocide thing in Rwanda back in

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1994, which was perpetrated by the Hutu against the Tutsi.

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While it's true that some Tutsi were Christian and some were Muslim, the Hutu were a mostly

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Christian group.

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But the real issue here is not that, and the real issue is this.

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The religious aspect of that had very little to do with what happened.

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The campaign of genocide against the Tutsi people was a direct result of Belgian colonialization

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in central Africa.

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When the Belgian took control of Rwanda from Germany after World War I, they found a unified

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culture that was made up of three distinct groups, the Tutsi, Hutu, and Twa people.

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They had differences in physical characteristics and traditional occupations, but they existed

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as a single group.

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In the days of like let's say 400 years back, the Tutsi and Hutu lived in a symbiotic state.

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The Tutsi herders raised cattle on the land that couldn't be used for crops, and manure

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from the cattle would multiply the yields of the crops that were raised by the Hutu

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farmers.

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The Belgians saw the differences between the groups as evidence of prevailing theories

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of the time about ethnic superiority.

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This is to say that the majority Hutu were mostly peasant class, while the Tutsi were

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mostly cattle herders and thus had more property and had physical characteristics more attractive

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to the colonizers.

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Thus, the Belgians believed that the Tutsi were better people.

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They provided education for the Tutsi and established indirect rule over the country

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through them, though they were a minority of the population, making up only approximately

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15% of the country.

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In 1926, the Belgians passed the Mordahan law, which made it so only Tutsi could be

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appointed to positions of power and granted them authority over things like taxation.

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The elite among the Tutsi saw the benefits that came from going along with this system

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that the Belgians had set up, where they were the superior group who wielded all of the

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political power in the country, and thus the ethnic status quo was reinforced internally.

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By the 1950s, Hutu empowerment groups began to get organized, such as the Association

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for Social Promotion of the Masses and the Hutu Social Movement, two groups that would

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combine in 1959 into the Parti du movement de l'Emancipation Hutu, the party of the

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movement for the emancipation of the Hutu.

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Naturally, this made the Tutsi elites a little bit nervous, so they started their own group,

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the Union Nationale Rouandés, which would begin clashing with the Hutu groups, inevitably,

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of course.

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The clashes became violent, and many Tutsi went into exile, whereupon largely Hutu Rwanda

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voted for its independence in 1962.

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From this point onward, the Tutsi that remained in Rwanda were a harshly repressed minority,

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and those who fled before independence viewed themselves as refugees from their homeland

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and began launching guerrilla attacks from across the borders of Zaire, Uganda, and Tanzania.

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Part of this was probably motivated by the fact that many of the Tutsi weren't trusted

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in the countries that they fled to, where they found themselves unable to successfully

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start a new life and wanted to go back.

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The Ugandan governments of both Milton Obote and Idi Amin established rules that made the

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Rwandan refugees second-class citizens, they were subject to arbitrary detention by the

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police, and were scapegoated for domestic problems, which only exacerbated their desire

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to go back home.

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Between 1987 and 1990, the Tutsi group, called the Rwandese Patriotic Front, the RPF, attempted

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to negotiate a quote, unconditional return of all Rwandan refugees and to accord all

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Rwandese equal rights.

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The Hutu president, Habari Mani, said that the country was full and would accept no more

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people, so the RPF took up arms.

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Interestingly, when Trump visited the border this past Friday, he said of immigrants and

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refugees, quote, we can't take any more of you, our country is full.

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Very similar rhetoric that does never, it never seems to exist in good places.

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The fighting went on for three years and the RPF was on the verge of victory when foreign

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forces intervened to save the Habari Mani government.

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These forces ironically included the Belgians, who 60 years prior had set up a brutally pro-Tutsi

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social structure, only now to be militarily aiding the Hutu government in repulsing the

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Tutsi from returning to the country.

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They don't give a fuck.

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These people do not care at all.

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Colonialism isn't great.

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On April 6th, 1994, President Habari Mani, his private jet was shot down near Kigali

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Airport.

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The Hutu blamed the RPF.

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The Tutsi claimed that the Hutu extremists themselves shot down the plane as a false

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flag against the Tutsi.

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Of course.

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To this day, it still remains an open question, although there's pretty strong indications

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that, as is so often the case, the arguments about something being a false flag seem like

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bullshit and the RPF probably did it.

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Almost certainly.

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Regardless, what happened next is much less an open question to history.

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In the next 100 days, between 800,000 and 1 million Tutsi were slaughtered by the Rwandese

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army as well as the government-backed civilian militia, the Interhamwe.

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Some estimates claim that 7 out of 10 Tutsi citizens were murdered in the genocide of

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1994, and that doesn't even count the 10,000 Twa people who were murdered, which made up

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approximately one third of their population, after propaganda started circulating that

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the Twa were aiding and abetting the RPF.

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Of course.

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Of course they did.

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This piece of history is unspeakably horrible, and the consequences of what transpired are

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the direct result and indirect result of colonialist systems that were put in place by the Belgians.

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Alex can talk about how a Christian African is great, but an animist or Muslim African

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is barbaric all he wants, but that's a cowardly and idiotic way to look at the world that

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doesn't match up with history at all.

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Also, the Belgians were Christians.

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Of course they were.

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Now we also gotta take into consideration about what the Belgians did to the Congo,

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where King Leopold II established a country-sized labor camp where he enslaved the natives to

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harvest natural resources like rubber and killed millions who didn't go along with his

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plans or just failed to do a good enough job.

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Officers in his army weren't allowed to waste ammunition, because it was really expensive

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back then, so they needed to prove that each bullet they used was used appropriately.

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To prove that each bullet did kill a person, the practice of cutting off the right hand

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of the deceased was implemented.

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Of course, enterprising soldiers started to realize that if they just cut off people's

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hands, they could use the bullets for whatever they wanted, like recreational shooting, and

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thus the scourge of bodily mutilation of Congolese citizens began.

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The practice got pretty out of control, and a lot of innocent people were subjected to

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arbitrary bodily mutilation at the hands of the ostensibly Christian colonialist forces.

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This is in addition to the slavery, the use of rape as a method of terror, the floggings

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and torture, the burnings of village, the kidnappings of children, the starvation, all

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of that stuff.

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Because of the unspeakable horror he subjected the Congolese people to, King Leopold amassed

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a staggering fortune of between 100 and 500 million dollars, which did reportedly make

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him at one point the richest person in the world.

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So I guess the argument that Christians being pretty productive in Africa might have had

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a kernel of truth to it.

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Oh boy.

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In 1908 word had gotten out about what Leopold was up to, and he was forced to relinquish

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control over the colony to the Belgian government.

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Ultimately, however, the legacy of the butcher of the Congo has lived on.

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10 weeks after Congo declared its independence from Belgium in 1960, General Mabutu Sisi

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Siko led a coup d'etat that took over the country, staying in power until a few months

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before his death in 1997.

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Siko presided over one of the worst human rights records ever, routinely torturing and

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murdering political dissidents, reportedly even feeding detractors to crocodiles at his

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palace.

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It would be hard to draw a parallel to the colonial days, from the colonial days, to

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Siko's rule, but it's worth noting that he did have a habit of disfiguring the bodies

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of dissidents that he killed.

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You know what, I said that it would be hard to draw that parallel, but what I meant is

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I don't know that I can draw it.

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I'll let the Chicago Tribune do that.

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Quote, Mabutu's critics say that his system of repression sprang from the colonial history

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that set an awful example.

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Among other atrocities, the rulers of the former Belgian Congo used to slice the hands

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of rubber workers off if they were caught misbehaving.

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King Leopold, the butcher of the Congo, was a Catholic.

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So was Mabutu Sisi Siko, or at least he was until some years into his rule when the Vatican

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started to criticize his murderous habits and he decided, fuck this, I'm not a Catholic

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anymore.

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So also you may remember that Paul Manafort and Roger Stone, two professed Christians,

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made a whole lot of money lobbying for and representing Siko and his interests.

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So this idea is a bunch of illusion.

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Alex wants to portray a world where there is a clear distinction between the behavior

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of Christians as being civilized and good and the behavior of Muslims as being barbaric,

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brutal, and destructive.

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And this is purely an expression of bigotry.

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Sure, there's plenty of examples of Muslims doing horrible things in the history of Africa

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and elsewhere, but those horrible acts are no more a condemnation of the religion of

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Islam and its adherents as the acts of King Leopold are a condemnation of Christianity

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and the vast majority of Christians who don't behave that way and don't think that's okay.

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What's behind these atrocities is the lingering untreated consequences of a brutal racist

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dehumanizing history of colonialism and imperialism.

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The West that Alex fetishizes committed a horrendous crime against the native peoples

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of Africa and plenty of other places, and now he's blaming the victims' progeny for

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the aftermath.

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It's a pathetic and childish way to view the world, and it's so incredibly important

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to respect and understand the complexity of things like this the propagandists wish to

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make simple.

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It's hard to discuss the lingering damages of the past that are still killing people

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in the third world today and the lingering benefits of those damages that the West has

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enjoyed.

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It's far easier to say, fuck it, we're good, they're bad, and it's because of Islam.

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But you don't get anywhere with that.

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And it's absolutely mirrored in the way that so many of these people treat black people

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in America now is like, well, you're not wealthy because you're not working hard enough,

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not because we absolutely destroyed any possibility of your family ever accruing wealth,

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and then forced you to stay in that situation.

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Yep.

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And the fact that he's using, it is immensely suspicious to me, even though I can't, obviously

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I can't make this statement 100% factually.

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I can't see into why he did everything in his own mind.

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But it is very important for me that he specifically went out of his way to choose African nations

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and Rwanda to make that comparison between Christians and Muslims, because he's trying

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to take his own racism out of it.

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Because if you're going to go to Africa...

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But accidentally keeps all of it on full display.

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Exactly.

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And he can't say, oh, well, in America, Christian versus Muslim, because what he's going to

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wind up doing is saying white versus brown.

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So he goes to, he pulls this example of white colonialism, making black people good or bad,

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essentially.

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Like black people in Africa didn't have, or Africans didn't have Christianity until it

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was brought to them.

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Right.

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So I guess it would be those who got in the program with us were good, and those who didn't

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are bad.

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Exactly.

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Those who submitted to the colonialist missionary agenda, hooray, they're productive.

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Right.

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And those who...

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Yeah, it's gross.

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It's gross.

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It's a good thing we don't see examples of that literally across the entire world, where

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colonialists went in, redrew their borders, and just fucking bailed on it until they felt

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they needed something.

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And then just, you know, I'm just saying that India and Pakistan were made by perfectly

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normal...

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It's good stuff.

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Bullshit.

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Yeah, it's all over the place.

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All over the fucking place.

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So we know that Alex is a, you know, he's an individualist, and he hates the globalists

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because they're collectivists.

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And Randian kind of bend there.

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Loves trains.

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But the thing that's interesting is that Alex, we've heard him express similar things before.

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He's like, I am actually a collectivist.

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I believe in the collective, but their collective is a bad collective, whereas my collective

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is a good collective.

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Of course.

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And he talks about that in this next clip, and then it goes pretty far off course.

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I am the ultimate collectivist.

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You will not find a bigger collectivist on this planet than Alex Jones.

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And that's why I'm a total individualist, because each of us is a shell, and I've got

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to be strong and not be cancerous, and I've got to stand against the cancer and stand

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against the evil and be as strong as I can in what I do to try to lift up the entire

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system.

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That's what Christ does.

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Do words mean anything, Dan?

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I don't think so.

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Do we even need them anymore?

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I'm not sure, but those last words really made it feel like Alex thinks he is a Christ.

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I think so.

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You might think he's an avatar of the Christ.

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Is he thinking that right now he's spending his 40 days in the desert not being on social

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media?

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Jack, why have you forsaken me?

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Oh, let my people go back on Twitter.

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You could really basically co-opt all Bible stories into Alex's struggle to get back to

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the promised land of social media.

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I think that he does think that there is some of that.

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Whether or not he would ever put it that way, I do think that he thinks he's a messiah trying

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to get back to Twitter.

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And I listen to the great burning wall, and it keeps me from going on the internet.

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They're like the Loaves and Fishes.

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That's all the downloads of Joe Rogan's podcast.

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I turn nothing into millions of downloads.

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Yeah, that's a possibility.

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It's pretty fucked up.

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I mean, I guess I get what he's trying to express with the like, I'm a collectivist,

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but also an individualist.

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I think that he's murky with definitions, certainly, but I'm going to let that slide.

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I was more interested in the idea that he's sort of comparing himself to Christ.

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Yeah, we just got to figure out who in his inner circle is going to betray him.

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Harrison Smith.

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Harrison Smith?

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You think it's going to be...

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It's a young buck.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks more about some demons, and now that we know the plot

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of Childhood's End, let's see if we can't guess where this is coming from.

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Spoiler alert, it's Childhood's End.

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This one's actually from Howard's End, right?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Eye is not seen, ear is not heard, but God has a store, just seconds in history's timeframe.

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We're just almost to the finish line, and the devil and all his minions are,

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no, you're not going to have it.

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You're not going to have it.

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You're not going to have live extension.

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You're not going to have all the dimensions.

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No, no, no.

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Because they're all the failures, the interdimensional scum, the trash.

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Because they can't attach to the overmind.

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They are the failures.

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They're the scum.

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That's the demons that he's referencing.

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The viruses, the program for us to kill ourselves.

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That was actually Windows 95.

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Why in all the literature from every culture demons want you to hurt kids,

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and burn down buildings, and kill crops, and have famine, and starving people, and death?

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Because it's a weapon.

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It's a weapon fired into our psyche to make us destroy ourselves.

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It's a torpedo.

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And we have to just say, no, we don't accept the torpedo.

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We don't accept the operating system of the crazed demoniac garbage.

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It's too bad Tom Petty's dead.

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He said, damn the torpedoes.

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Yeah, it's too, you know, if only he was around when the Untersee boats were causing all kinds

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of problems, all they needed to do was just refuse to accept them.

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No, it's like you're shaming a dog to do a torpedo.

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Germans, knock it off.

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The other stuff there, like the idea that these demons are fallen, and they can't connect

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to the overmind, that's in there, and that's from Childhood's End.

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But even before that, when he's talking about we're at the cusp of going to the stars,

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and stuff like that, and then these demons show up, that is also directly from Childhood's End.

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The idea that we were having this weaponized space race, and that's when the aliens stepped in,

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because we were going to destroy ourselves.

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Alex could read that and be like, no, no, no, we were about to invade their area.

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We were about to become as great as them, and so they stopped us from it,

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as opposed to what's actually in the text.

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They were going, we were going to destroy ourselves, and we were important to the overmind

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that we not destroy ourselves, and so the midwives came in to assure that we don't destroy ourselves.

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So Alex is, again, just misreading science fiction and using it to make an argument

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about the real world, which is fucked up.

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Although there is a part in Childhood's End where Corellon tells the people that

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humanity is not destined for the stars, and that sort of thing.

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The idea that we aren't going to be making spaceships and traveling through space.

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Our race, that's not in our future.

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Our future is to become one with the overmind.

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Did you see what you guys did to the Congo?

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We're not going to let you fucking get out into space.

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You guys are insane.

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That would be an interesting way for it to go in the book.

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We're going to give you some children.

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They're going to get to the overmind. The rest of you are fucked.

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Yeah, I think that Alex is kind of mad that Corellon said that,

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and that's weird because that's in a book.

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So, you know, we have six months left until societal collapse.

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He really tossed that off like it wasn't that big a deal.

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I feel like that would be a lot of your show, even moving forward.

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He doesn't really expand on it too much, but I think he touches on it a bit in this next clip.

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Because the whole universe is like a giant spectrum radio transmission.

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You can dial in anything you want.

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Do you have free will?

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How about you dial into God?

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They are trying to collapse the planet right now to take everybody out.

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So is that a 21-2 area code?

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And everybody's got to be more involved than ever.

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Praying, being involved, and standing against globalism,

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and the UN, and open borders, and their entire plan.

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Whatever they're pushing, it's death and destruction.

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All the proof's there to oppose everything the UN and CNN says,

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and you'll do great.

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The reason I kept that clip in is because, again,

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he's saying that they're going to collapse the planet.

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I guess there's not really any more information about the six-month time frame, whatever.

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But in the episode we did about the deposition,

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I was very specific to defend Alex against all these psychosis headlines that are going around.

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And I don't think I was wrong to do that.

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However, what he was describing that was reported as psychosis,

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and he did use that word,

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is the idea that when he was younger,

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he just trusted the media so much that he thought everything they said was bad and fake.

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What he's saying in that clip is the exact same thing.

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He's saying the exact same thing as he, in the deposition,

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was presenting as his old mindset that he's learned was wrong.

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Now he's going out to break,

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do whatever the opposite of the UN and CNN says, and you'll be fine.

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That's not good.

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He's doing a Mitch Hedberg joke.

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What's that?

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I used to do drugs.

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I still do.

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I still do, but I used to too.

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I used to think it was psychosis.

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Wow.

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Still is.

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I guess.

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Yeah.

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I mean, yeah, it's weird.

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I would think that he would be more careful, but I don't know why I would think that.

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Yeah, that makes no sense.

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No.

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So Alex talks quite a bit in the middle of this episode about how he's about to go to L.A.

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He's going to go take a trip to L.A. and he does this like,

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I think you can guess what that means.

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I think it means he's going to be on Rogan again.

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So, yeah.

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Really?

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God damn it.

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Pretty quick succession.

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That's so annoying.

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I'm really annoyed by this.

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I'm not sure if that is what he's hinting, but I think it is.

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Because what else would he be doing?

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And what else would he be hinting at?

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Yeah, I'm just really disappointed in that.

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Really, it's such a bummer.

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Like, I don't like feeling so much empathy for Joe being in a weird one-sided friendship

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and then getting used by this fucking asshole.

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Well, consider how much money he's making off his one-sided friendship,

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and I think those feelings may go away a little bit.

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Fair.

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And it also gives him so much clout in that, like, dumb world,

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that dumb free speech absolution, absolutist community.

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The idea that he still has Alex on is like, you're one of the good ones.

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You're one of those people who, you talk to anybody.

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Except people who are actually pretty far left.

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It's just gross.

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It is gross.

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But, you know, so he's talking about going to L.A.,

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and he's talking about how he was in L.A.

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And it turns out he was, I don't even know how to set this clip up,

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but I'll tell you that I don't believe it.

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Whatever that biggest comedy place is there in L.A.,

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I checked the name, comedy store, whatever it's called.

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They, I got invited to go speak there next Tuesday.

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And I said, okay, I will.

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And they got so many threats.

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They said, oh, sorry, you can't come speak here.

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And by the way, this is a place where you can do anything you want,

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but see, Alex Jones is verboten.

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I don't, I don't know if they have lectures at the comedy store.

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I mean, how much time would he be getting?

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What is he, is he getting to like 1 30 a.m. slot?

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He's getting a good six to 10.

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Like, what are we talking about here?

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I mean, is he a paid regular now?

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I think he'd probably irk a lot of aspiring comics.

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Is he sure he's not talking about the Irvine improv?

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I don't fucking know.

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I love the way he's presenting it though.

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Like I was invited to come give a speech,

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come speak at this comedy store.

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And look, Joe Rogan's a big wig there.

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You know, he's a big figure in the comedy store world.

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If Alex wanted to come do whatever, Joe could set that up.

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No matter what, no matter how much protesting people did,

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were like, you can't let Alex do a set here.

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Like they still let like fucking Louis C.K.

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could come do sets all over.

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Yeah, they don't give a shit.

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I think they mixed him up with a young Eddie Pepitone.

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I think that might be where they were a hard right Pepitone.

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It's ridiculous.

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I was going to give a speech at the comedy store

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and they said, no, you can't do it.

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I was going to give a comedy lesson?

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Yeah, I guess.

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Doug Stanhope gave me a set one time, so.

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I'm not sure how much the comedy store exists

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as an anti-globalist entity where they would be interested

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in whatever speech he has to give.

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I think, I don't know, who cares.

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In this next clip, Alex makes a weird statement, I guess.

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I don't know.

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He's talking about his Sandy Hook lawsuit

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and some conversations he's had with his lawyers.

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It's very important to point that out

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because at the beginning of this clip,

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he does say that this is his lawyers, not other lawyers.

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It would kind of make sense coming from other lawyers,

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but since it's his lawyers saying this to him,

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it's very weird.

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You should settle and quit.

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No, I bet they are saying that though.

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Yeah.

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I've had my own lawyers say, listen,

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there's no way you find yourself.

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Give me the Mercer documents.

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And I say, I've never talked to the Mercers or gotten a dollar.

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It's okay.

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I know you get the money from them.

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Just give it to me.

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What?

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It's because the left, ladies and gentlemen, are children.

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They never built a damn thing in their lives.

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It's crazy, Tom.

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Anyways, you built this whole operation.

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You and I, we built the Infowars.

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It's ours.

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It's America and it's winning.

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The sale has to end in the next 48 hours.

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Free shipping store wide.

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Okay.

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Wait, so his lawyers asked him where the Mercer money was?

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His lawyers said there's no way that you're funding yourself with this pill sale bullshit.

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Where's the money coming from?

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It's okay.

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We're trying to defend you.

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Just, we need to know what's going on.

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You have attorney client privilege.

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We just, you can't lie to us or else we can't defend you.

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That sort of thing.

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And then Alex is like, and the reason is because the left are children.

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Yeah.

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It's not the left.

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These are your lawyers.

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Who did you hire to represent you?

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Did you hire globalists to represent you?

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These are your lawyers, Alex.

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These are your lawyers.

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And they are telling you, we don't believe your money stream.

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Now I believe that probably it might not be the Mercer's specifically,

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but the fact that his own lawyers are like, this doesn't add up.

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What's the deal?

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Makes me think it doesn't add up.

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Hey, Alex, according to your, uh, revenue, uh, profit loss statement, you lost, uh,

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$38 million last year, but, uh, it looks like you evened out and are in the black.

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Now I, now this business of yours, and I'm going to use really heavy scare quotes.

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Right, right.

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What do you do?

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What do you do?

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Well, we sell pills.

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Okay.

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How many?

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A lot of them.

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Like.

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Don't ask for my books.

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You're a child.

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Damn it.

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And then my teeth and wings come out.

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Shit.

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Demon.

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Oh, fuck.

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You're a child.

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You've never built anything.

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Did you?

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Yeah.

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With the Mercer's body.

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Oh, shit.

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My dad's oil money.

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I would have gotten away with it.

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Yeah.

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So it turns out that Alex is self-made and he's successful.

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And it's not just because he's great.

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There's actually reasons behind it, which he explains in this next clip.

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And then he does a Ric Flair impression, which is great because we're recording this before

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I watch WrestleMania this evening.

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That's lovely.

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And so it's always great to hear Alex do a bad Ric Flair.

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You're looking at a true organic expression of the will of humanity to be free.

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Just like all the inventions and all the great ideas came from independent tinkers.

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And I just love how the left of all of them are like, show us how you're funded by Trump.

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Show us who runs you.

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Show us where you, why you're so successful.

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Because I'm not a knuckle dragon, low IQ, inbred piece of trash like you.

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I'm a tinker.

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You damn idiots.

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Woo!

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All right.

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Woo!

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Not bad.

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Not a bad woo.

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All right.

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Yeah, he's not a knuckle dragon, inbred idiot like us.

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So that's why he's created his own pill business, which is not really his own pill business

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as much as it is.

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Putting labels on other people's pills and then selling them to your idiot fans.

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Which is a good scam.

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I mean, don't get me wrong.

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No, it's not bad.

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Private label.

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Yeah, him being able to work that out is great.

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Hey.

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But I guess we are knuckle draggers because we don't sell boner pills.

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We don't.

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We should.

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I don't think so.

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No.

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So Alex in this next clip, he's been bragging about how he...

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Knowledge is my boner pill, Dan.

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That's right.

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Your head is your biggest sexual organ.

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Yeah.

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Brain.

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So Alex is bragging about how he's got satellite feeds to other news organizations.

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It's like, what, you get cable now?

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Yeah, I was going to say...

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Give us a shit.

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What is that, DirecTV?

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Like, what are we talking about here, man?

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Just trying to brag that he is like doing the things that other news organizations do,

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which is fine.

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But during the break, he was watching Fox News and he saw a guest make a theory.

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He had a theory about what Trump is doing with the border.

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And this gets interesting.

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And the guest is admitting that, well, the border's totally collapsed and the border

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patrol and all the courts are overwhelmed and there's a six-year backlog.

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And so basically the country's wide open.

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And so Trump's saying he's going to close the border just to hope that people think

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it's closed and don't come up here.

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But it's all just a PR stunt.

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That's dumb.

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Because the border's gone.

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And I don't blame the president for trying to make people think, you know, hey, we're

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going to close it.

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But unless he calls out a couple hundred thousand troops and unless he puts major pressure

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on the Mexican government right now to stop this, it's done.

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The country is broken.

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You break somebody's border, it's over.

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I think that's the six months that he's talking about.

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Okay.

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From context clues, I think that's what he means.

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All right.

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And that's what I'm getting at here is the U.N. plan to break countries is to set up

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refugee centers, brainwash communists and socialists, tell them there's all this free

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crap, send them to our countries in Europe and the U.S., Canada, New Zealand, Australia,

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where the leftists pick them up on buses and take them and enroll them on welfare in sanctuary

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cities and get them jobs and then skim money off of them and money laundering.

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The Democratic Party is a criminal group.

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They have converted to the lowest person in the Democratic Party now.

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Almost all of them are conscious criminals.

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In Aliens, great movie.

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Paxton, what's that actor's full name?

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Paxton says, game over, man.

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Game over.

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What do you mean they cut the power?

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They're animals, man.

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Game over.

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It's game over.

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Everything goes back to some sci-fi reference that may or may not be like actually related

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at all, or it might just be something that just made me think of that.

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He's got nothing.

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He can ramble about the idea that there's these U.N. plans, but the only specific in

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there is a reference to Paxton, we can't remember his name, in Aliens.

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That's it.

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That's all he has.

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This is exactly like childhood's end, being behind his conception of the entities that

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are behind the globalists, these hiding demon alien figures that pretend that they want

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to do good but are actually here to destroy the world.

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It's all bullshit.

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All of it just goes back to him not understanding the difference between fiction and reality

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and assuming that all fiction is just reality presented as fiction because it's lesser magic.

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Right.

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Right, it would be nice if we just found out that he was a huge Paxton fan.

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He doesn't know his name.

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Yeah, but I mean it'd be better if he just goes through all of the natural disasters

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in all Paxton movies just like, and you know how they're gonna do it?

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Tornadoes, just like in that Paxton movie.

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It'd be better if he was a huge John Paxton fan, just talked about basketball all the

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time because then the stakes would be way lower.

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They would be lower.

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So I think that that is sort of like another indication of like all this stuff is just

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based on faulty sources that he's pretending are much more serious than they are.

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And so that's the sort of stuff that you're just like, yeah, fuck you, Alex, get the fuck

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out of here.

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But then again, much like earlier, we were talking about all the childhoods and stuff

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and then we're reminded the stuff that is important, him talking about these differences

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between Christian Africans and Muslim Africans.

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Again, this last clip, he's talking about all this, the UN plan to break up countries

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and we've got to bring troops to the border and it's just like Alien, the movie, science

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fiction movie, great movie.

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You just, all right, whatever, Alex.

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And it leads to a clip like this.

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Radio listeners are lucky they don't see this.

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Just type in women acid attacks or women acid Islam and you'll see their whole faces burn

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off in the most monstrous things you could ever imagine.

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Millions of women every decade or so are killed in Islam till the family gets around and stones

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their mothers, stones their daughters.

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They cut their noses off, burn their faces off, cut their clitoris is off when they're

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born.

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And this is just standard Islam.

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You've got all these different members of Islam that have gotten into Congress, two

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of them.

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And you've got the other usual suspects that lead women's marches saying this is Islam.

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We need to keep doing it.

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So Alex said in that last clip that this is standard Islam and then brings up Omar and

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Tlaib and Linda Sarsour.

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There is the third figure that he's mentioning with the women's march.

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I prefer premium unleaded Islam.

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Sure, it's better for your engines.

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Yeah, for sure, absolutely.

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So this episode's from Thursday of last week.

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On Friday of last week, 55-year-old Patrick Carlinio was arrested after he called Ilhan

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Omar's office and threatened to kill her.

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He reached a staffer who he asked, quote, why are you working for her?

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She's a fucking terrorist.

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And then he went on to promise to, quote, put a bullet in her fucking skull.

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When he was arrested, he told the police that he loved Trump and, quote, hates radical Muslims

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in government.

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The next day after the man's arrest, Trump gave a speech in Vegas for the Republican

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Jewish coalition, where he said, quote, a special thanks to Representative Omar of Minnesota.

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Oh, I forgot.

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She doesn't like Israel.

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I forgot.

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I'm so sorry.

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No, she doesn't like Israel, does she?

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Please, I apologize.

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Billionaire Trump donor Sheldon Adelson was in attendance, where he wore a red yarmulke

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with the word Trump on it.

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Then Trump called Netanyahu, quote, your prime minister, despite the attendees being American

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Republicans who happen to be Jewish, which many have commented is way more anti-Semitic

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than anything Omar is being attacked for saying.

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Pure and simple, there's no two ways about this.

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These people are trying to get Representative Omar killed, and it's it's disgraceful.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about that gay wedding that he saw in Mexico again.

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Remember that story?

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He tells it again.

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Oh, boy.

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I mean, I've told you I was in Isla Mujeres, an island off Mexico, and it was a gay wedding

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at the hotel we were at.

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And I watched for three days the gay guys trying to kiss the ass of all these Muslims

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that were there wearing Berkish, and the women would go, get away from me.

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Get away, get away.

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They would talk.

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They would just and the gay guys would grovel.

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Oh, God, you're a Muslim.

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But guaranteed, those guys probably hate me because I'm a libertarian.

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I'm sure it's like a fetish to love your destroyers, to love your Sherpas, to love

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those which destroy Western civilization, all the egalitarian freedom we have that these

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very people take advantage of and they don't care.

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So Muslims, and he said, standard Islam.

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So it's all Muslims are as guilty of this as anybody else.

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They're usurpers.

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They're destroyers.

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They are coming to destroy the freedoms of Western civilization.

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This is just disgusting.

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There's no other way to put it.

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This is repulsive rhetoric.

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It's the sort of thing that only, only leads to people being hurt.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, what he's doing is almost it's turning any kind of positive empathy into

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a betrayal.

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Like if the story that he's even presenting is true, based on what he's even talking

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about right now, what happened was some gay guys apologized.

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Or were trying to hang out with some Muslim people that were there and the Muslims didn't

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want to hang out.

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And they were like, no, we don't want to hang out.

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And they're like, oh, I'm sorry.

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I didn't mean to bother you.

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Sorry.

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Apologies.

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Maybe.

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You know, like any kind of, any kind of usurpers.

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Yeah.

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Anything other than outright anger and hatred is the wrong way to be in any interaction

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with a Muslim person because what you're, oh, you're going to apologize to these Muslims

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for what?

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For what?

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Oh, invading their space or whatever like that.

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It's, it's, it's, it's, it's destructive of any kind of like, oh, just be polite.

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Right.

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He's, he's trying to take that away from people.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it's a disgusting worldview.

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I resent it greatly.

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I mean, it is just the, it's the sort of thing that you need to do in order to make people

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not feel for a group of people.

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Like it's the, it's, it's pretty bad.

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Exactly.

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So, uh, we have one last clip here.

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Um, and, and I'll say that it's because, uh, this is a little bit shorter and it's because

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for about an hour of the episode, Alex talks to his lawyer, uh, Barnes.

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Good work, Barnes.

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And, uh, man, this guy is an asshole.

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He's just agreeing with Alex and talking about how like this case that we're in right now

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is going to be the defining case about free speech.

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We are going to take it all the way to the Supreme Court.

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And, uh, yeah, they're, they're definitely going to make it through the appeals court

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and the Supreme Court is going to be like, yeah, we're going to need to take this case.

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It's an indication though of like, you know that you can't argue this case on the merits.

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You can only win theoretically if you twist it into being, uh, some sort of a, uh, case

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about speech itself.

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Yeah.

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And unfortunately there's already legal precedent that covers all of the issues that they would

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be bringing up, but it's a good way to present it because it makes it so you don't even have

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to argue about like, yeah, I did all that shit.

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Right.

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You know, cause you, you, he can't say that he didn't say these things about the Sandy

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Hook families and shit like that.

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I don't understand quite honestly why he's not just like, yep, I said that it's beyond

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the statute of limitations or something like that.

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Right.

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I don't understand why that's not his defense.

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Um, I think probably because right now if, if, if we're talking about why, why would

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Barnes even go on the show if not as some sort of advertisement to other people in this

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shitty sphere, if you need a lawyer, cause otherwise it doesn't make any sense for Barnes

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to go on info Wars.

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No, it's silly.

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So if he goes on info Wars and he doesn't have some sort of rah rah, like, see, I'm

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going to take your defense and I'm going to take it all the way up to 11.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm working for you, my client.

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And if you, if also, if anybody has been hit by a, or if, do you have mesothelioma because

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that's also a thing that class action lawsuit on a pill.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Fan fan is back or whatever.

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Yeah.

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And even if it was like all this stuff, we could still talk about it a little bit, but

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I cannot stand listening to this guy cause I don't think he understands how to use a

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windscreen.

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Okay.

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Like every single sentence that he says is followed.

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Not that it's a, he says a sentence.

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And then like, it's just, his inhales are brutal.

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It sounds so terrible that it triggers me.

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And so like I was sitting there.

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Reverse ASMR, huh?

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You motherfucker.

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I'm just sitting there like, we record in my fucking apartment on Sennheiser mics that

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I paid $75 for five years ago.

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And it still somehow isn't as obnoxious to listen to as a millionaire attorney in Alex

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Jones's million dollar studio.

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And just like, I was listening to that.

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I can't, I was like, I can't fucking do this anymore.

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I love the idea now of reverse ASMR videos to get people like force them into action,

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you know, instead of those relaxing, oh God, I'm going to kill somebody.

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No, it just gets me to turn it off.

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That's all it does.

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Um, so in our last clip, Alex talks about how he used to like liberals, but something changed.

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You know, the average liberal I knew growing up, I liked, I wouldn't call myself a conservative.

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I wouldn't even call myself a liberal.

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I was just an Americana libertarian.

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Bob, you can define yourself if you'd like, but just Americana, Renaissance, common sense.

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But then something happened once Obama got in.

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The left now is the liberals are pro or in Gallup poll, more than Republicans.

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So something changed when Obama got in.

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Could you be a little less on the nose?

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Could you be, could you be around, could you just be like, oh, it was around 2006 in the

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lead up to the election whenever Hillary and Obama were talking.

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And then you have the two of them instead of a black president.

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Well, Alex is, isn't defining his terms here.

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And I think that's the main problem because what he's saying doesn't make sense.

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If his argument that he was trying to make was this, like during Obama's term, Democrats

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became a little more complacent and turned a blind eye to a lot of things they should

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have pushed back against, many of which involved war type issues like drones.

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Then I'd probably say that there was room for a robust conversation in what he was bringing

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to the table, but that's not what Alex is saying.

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He's saying that he turned on liberals when Obama got elected, largely because he saw

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them as becoming more pro-war than Republicans, and the numbers just don't back that up.

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For instance, a June 2011 study from the Pew Research Center asked respondents if they

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favored the complete removal of troops from Afghanistan.

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67% of Democrats were in favor of the removal of troops as compared to 43% of Republicans.

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This study is great because it actually has a rebuttal for Alex's likely, like first

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objection to that, I'm not really a Republican.

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Their research included a variable for Tea Party folk, and it turns out that the Tea

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Party people were even less into troop removal than mainstream Republicans, with 42% only

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being in favor of troop removal.

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The study has a few other questions in it, like whether or not the respondents thought

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that, quote, using military force in Afghanistan was the right decision.

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54% of Democrats said it was, compared with 68% of Republicans.

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So even that doesn't match.

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In September 2009, Gallup ran a poll looking at the opinions of Obama's proposal to send

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more troops into Afghanistan.

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63% of Republicans favored sending more troops into the war, whereas 62% of Democrats opposed

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the plan.

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So, Republicans, widely more in favor as of 2009, and that continued to 2011.

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A November 2015 Gallup poll asked respondents, asked if respondents supported sending ground

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troops to Iraq and Syria.

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56% of Republicans were in favor of sending troops, as opposed to 37% of Democrats.

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So that doesn't make sense either.

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A 2011 Gallup poll asked if people approved or disapproved of military action in Libya.

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While it's true that 51% of Democrats approved of that one, the number was still lower than

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the 57% of Republicans who approved of it.

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One of the main exceptions I can find is a September 2013 Gallup poll, which asked about

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support for a military strike against Syria.

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In this instance, 45% of Democrats were in favor, compared to only 31% of Republicans.

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It's interesting that this is the one instance where Republicans were pretty clear the anti-war

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as compared to Democrats.

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And I'm pretty sure that there's a cool reason for that.

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I don't know exactly what it is, but there's got to be something.

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Some kind of fun fact reason?

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Yeah.

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But as for the Democratic support for the war, if you want to call 45% like outright

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support for it, fine.

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I'll allow it.

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But if you're looking for an explanation, I think there's a perfectly reasonable one.

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Obama was seeking congressional approval for the action in Syria, as opposed to just attacking

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them, saying, quote, while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action

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without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if

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we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective.

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At the time of the Gallup poll, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee had passed a resolution

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authorizing the strike in Syria.

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It seems to me that the higher poll numbers for this attack among Democrats is less indicative

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of a support of war, and more an indication that they felt that this was being handled

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in the appropriate way.

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As you can see from that 2015 poll I cited earlier, the Democratic support for a war

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in Syria was very short-lived, and it turned around, as was the Republican opposition.

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Alex is just making shit up here to, like, again, it's just his way of not saying, I

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got really freaked out by Obama becoming president.

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You come up with a different way to present it.

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Democrats became pro-war.

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The numbers don't really match that up.

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You could have a different conversation that is similar to that about Obama's policies,

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but you don't want to do that.

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You want to say that everything changed when that happened without saying we had a black

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president, and that fucked with my head.

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So, cool.

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Just say black president.

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I mean, that's kind of...

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Well, just say it.

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Or...

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Why can't they just say it?

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We'll deal with that.

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Well, I mean, if you don't want to, then it behooves you to come up with a better argument,

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because this one is shit.

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Right.

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Well, that's why it's so infuriating, because the arguments that they present as it, no,

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no, no, it wasn't a black president, are all so flimsy and stupid.

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Totally.

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And that's why I'm willing to make the sort of default like, well, until you tell me why,

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I'm gonna assume that's case.

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Yeah.

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And then when you tell me your argument, you look at him like, that doesn't make sense.

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So I'm gonna default back to what I assumed, and I'll let go of my assumption that it's

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because there was a black president as soon as...

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You give me something...

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That holds up.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You can give me these, you know, like Democrats became pro-war.

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You can give me that.

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Right.

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And I'll look at it, but I'm gonna reject it because it doesn't make sense.

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Right.

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Once you give me something that does make sense, I'll stop assuming that it's black president.

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Yeah.

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That's where I'm at.

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So we come to the end of this, Jordan, and I am thrilled to have learned that most of

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Alex's shit just comes from childhood's end.

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I'm not thrilled about where it leads him in terms of his rhetoric about non-white populations.

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No, that tends to...

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Non-Christian populations.

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Tends to be bad.

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Yeah, that's the damaging thing that's behind this silly fucked up like,

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this guy just believes science fiction is real.

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Right.

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Like that, if that existed without the really dangerous scary stuff,

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I think we would have a much more fun show.

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It would be Project Camelot episodes all day.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, we could just, you know...

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Yeah.

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It would just be that.

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And I understand, I told you up front of the episode that I wanted to make this April 4th

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and 5th, I wanted to cover Thursday and Friday, but I didn't have enough time because of this

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being a big episode.

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And I don't, like I'm looking at the time and I don't think it's a super long episode

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by our standards or anything.

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So I think people could be confused and it's like, I had to read childhood's end.

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You know, that's more what I mean by I didn't have the time.

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That was my homework.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Guys, that was my homework.

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Yeah, behind like 10 minutes of our show was me reading a 200-something page book.

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So that's why Friday had to take a back seat.

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Yeah, and if you're, like that's the other thing.

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If you're basing your worldview on sci-fi, I wouldn't choose the sci-fi from the 50s.

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Just on account of there are a lot of undertones behind the sci-fi of the 50s that wind up

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leading you to a place where you think, well, African Christians and African Muslims are

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different people.

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I didn't get a ton of that from childhood's end.

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I'm not saying that it's from childhood's end.

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No, but I just wanted to thank Arthur C. Plunk a little bit.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, he ended up moving to Sri Lanka because he was secretly gay and it was

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a much better environment at the time for gay folk.

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And so, I mean, I don't think that there's as much latent bigotry in his work as maybe

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I don't, you know, Lovecraft or something like that.

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You know, I agree with your premise, just not applied to childhood.

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No, no, no, for sure.

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And you weren't saying that, but I just need to unnecessarily defend it.

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Agreed.

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So anyway, we get to the end of this and I guess we'll be back on the next episode,

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but we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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That's right.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.

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We're at, well, not we, that's you.

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Oh, well, yeah.

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But we're on Facebook.

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Indeed we are.

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And we have a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.

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We are on iTunes.

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You can rate, review, subscribe, all that good stuff.

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Please do.

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Now we bounce out of this and I'll say that Corellon, the overlord.

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That doesn't sound right.

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Never killed anybody.

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I don't think so.

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I don't think he killed anybody in the book.

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He was a demon.

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He was hiding his family.

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What is he going to do with those fangs?

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If he's not like a demon is just from an evolutionary standpoint,

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what are you doing with fangs?

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If you'd never had to use them.

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All right, fine.

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The UN secretary general, Ricky Stormbane or whatever, something close to that.

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You never killed anybody, but one guy who technically has is this guy, Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.