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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Well Alex, I'm a person color I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed

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We are Dan. Hi Jordan. Dan!

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Jordan

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Been a while. It has been a while. How was your vacation? It was pretty good. I went down to

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Occupied Texas. Did you? I did I went down to go visit my parents in Austin, Tejas

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As they say did not run into Alex didn't run into any info warriors

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I feel like if you did run into Alex you guys might touch and then just like cancel each other out like matter and

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Antimatter I kind of had a realization when I was down there that like there's a chance

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I'll run into him somewhere. It is possible

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I mean, it's very small, but there was a small chance and I realized like he doesn't know what I look like

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There's a chance you might be arrested by Steven Seagal, you know, like these things are possible

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But I realized Alex doesn't know what I look like so I could get a picture with him

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Yeah, like I could do that. That would be possible. Yeah, I was thinking like that would be so fun

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Oh, it's just another bearded weirdo

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Yeah, so I was thinking about trying to get my parents to take me down to the hike and bike trail

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Or Barton Springs or some of the places he mentioned trying to find a trying to sneak away

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Yeah, yeah

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but then I remembered that like also most of the time that I was there was the time that he was on air or

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Really no chance unless I bum-rush his studio. I'm not gonna do that. There's guns. No, there's definitely guns

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So I have one complaint to make about the trip

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As a whole and that is on Tuesday night while we were there. I should back up when I arrived

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when I arrived my mom had an idea for something that she wanted to go do uh-huh and

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And kill a pearl. Yes, okay

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No, what you wanted to do she had heard about this performance called acro cats

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You texted me I did you're so excited I was I

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Didn't want to know anything about it

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Yeah

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And what she described it as is there are these cats that are trained and this woman has this like only positive

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Reinforcement based training that she gives them and then there's a band. There's already already suspicious all parts of this are suspicious. Yes

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There's a cat band. They play drums. Yeah

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I'm like, well we kind of got to do it. Yeah got it. If it's bad. It's great if it's great. It's amazing

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Yeah, so I we we decide to do that on Tuesday night opening night of acro cats

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Opening night opening night in Austin even do a soft opening are there are there? I would say

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quite soft

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I

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Don't want to I don't want to disparage anybody's life's work or anything like that

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But I would say that going to this performance first of all two minutes in I realized we were in deep trouble

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she comes out the the embassy comes out and

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Her she does not have what I would call performance chops. Is she the cat trainer? Yes. There was a sense

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Oh, how does it not surprise me that a person who spends all of her time training cats does not have a great stage

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but well, you know that feeling you get when like a

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Certain host comes out at a comedy show and you're like, oh, we're in bad hands

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Yeah, I had that feeling and I also looked around the audience. It was a lot of children

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There

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Were a couple of like stray adults like maybe 20-somethings drinking booze

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Like there were a couple people who were there clearly for the right right and I kind of was there for the novelty of it

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Of course, but there was a small part of my brain that thought this is actually going to be trained cats

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And it was not no it was people dressed up like cats

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No

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it was actual cats and they were trained a little bit but her show was kind of supposed to be a

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Demonstration of her training technique which involves a clicker and then positive reinforcement like give the cat some chicken or whatever

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so it wasn't just a it wasn't like now I

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Apologized for sure my mental image. I understand. This is the mind real. Yeah

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My mental image is legit a bunch of cats like holding instruments and doing shit all together

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With no interference you they play a full song

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And then they play another full song to the band. There's some banter

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You know, no this next song is how long do you think the show was five minutes hour and a half

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Too long

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Too long the first I would say hour in ten of it was the cats coming out individually and doing like tricks

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Okay, so like they would jump from one pedestal to another or like there was a little shopping cart and the cat would push it

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That's fun. Sure

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It was fine

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But yeah

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It was very a lot of it was pretty simple and the sort of thing that you could get a cat to do

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I was and most

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Most is tough a lot of the time the cats didn't do what they were supposed to of course a lot of the time

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Yeah, no kidding. That's what I'm saying. It was a demonstration that this stuff is very inconsistent

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Yeah

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So there would be like I would say probably at least a quarter

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20% to 25% of the time the cats didn't do what the trick was right and then they played it off as like

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And then the band happened, how did it go I

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I should nothing could have prepared me for how disappointing

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There was a piano and that was the closest of course

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Well piano cats it was a little piano and the cat all that had to do was press on there

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Yeah, we've seen a cat play piano before many times

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It was close to okay, then there was a drum set and all it was was two drumsticks that were set up

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And if the cat pressed the drumsticks, it would like make drum noises. Yeah, that cat didn't do any of that drumming

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You can't do anything nothing. Then there was a guitar

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And the cat just had to sort of put its arm over one of its paws. Oh

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God, it was so bad. Yeah, did any music occur? There was noises there were noises. There was a

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Saxophone there was a saxophone trumpet. No shit. There's a trumpet

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They were tiny plastic instruments that the the the cat handlers were sitting around and like spraying

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Sauce on yeah, whatever. Yeah, the cats would put their mouths on the mouthpiece, right?

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And it would just automatically play trumpets. Right was

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Unbelievably bad. I

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Resented it. I am I am

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Murdering myself for not having like 10 million cat puns centered around Charlie Parker and Miles Davis right now

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It's a bird. It's gotta happen bird, man. I can't think of anything. Um, so yeah, it was a mess and

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Calico Parker I found out on Wednesday morning like before I went to the airport that my mom's friend also was there

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she also went to this agro cats and

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Pressed for more details. I learned that my mom's friend loved it. I

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thought it was funny and

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That she had gone last year

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No, it's opening night of the tour

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Oh of the tour, I don't even know if it's opening night for the tour just opening night in Austin

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Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. We've talked about this too much, but it really really don't think that's possible

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I was so surprised by how disappointed I could be

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that was really what I felt like I went in with real low expectations, but a great imagination of

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And I was still woefully disappointed by what I saw in front of me now even in even in my head right now

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Knowing what it is

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I still kind of imagined that a cat was capable of holding a couple of drumsticks and sitting on the sitting on the stool

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Getting some kick pedal action going I can see it in my mind right though. I know it is in no way possible

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You know why cuz you're thinking of like Bill the cat

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I could be and I would have rather seen that yeah

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Hell yeah, rather just read those comic strips

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So anyway, there's a show where I know a lot about acro cats

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And I have just found out more than I could ever have imagined about

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I know a lot about Alex Jones too, and I don't know anything but what you tell me so Jordan today

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We are going to be in the present day

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You know it's a little bit tough to get sea legs back and get back into the rhythm of this

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I haven't been out of town

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But I think there's something really interesting going on with Alex right now

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And we're gonna be talking about a little bit of it between February 5th and 6th

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2019 but before we do I got to give a shout out to a couple of new donors

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Clicking that button to support the show we would appreciate it. Please do. Um now Jordan

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So look I don't know if I should lay out my premise ahead of time or let it develop

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I'm not sure so I'm just gonna get into this. I'm just gonna go in. Do what feels natural to you. Okay

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I'm gonna play it out of context drop. Pretend you're like a cat learning how to play the drums for the first time

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I'm gonna be the Neil Pert of cats, and I play you and out of context

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Neil Pert. There you go. You found the pun. There's the pun.

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Here's an out of context drop from today's show. Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, not. Nice

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What?

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Get his ass. Yeah, you got him. The richest man in the world, not. Nobody's even given me his liquid assets

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Huh, how about that? That is a large part of what he's nodding him about. Oh, really? God, that's stupid

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So let's start on the fifth and we will let this develop as it goes

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The first clip that I have here is so it turns out

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Remember how we were really pumped that Alex Jones was gonna let David Knight have some time off to heal from that terrible heart attack

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He had he brought him back too soon. Oh, man. He's back already. Oh boy, and

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Alex has an interesting solution to David Knight's being overworked and having a heart attack

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And we've chained him to his chair. No, he just tells him don't

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Stop trying

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Expanding on that

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You just really need to take care of yourself because I know good and damn well

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That for a three-hour show you prepare for three four hours here and a couple hours at night

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Can't possibly be true

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I mean I can tell it's illustrious

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But you just can't prepare double for what you do on air you because you get so focused on

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Like you're preparing for a State of the Union every day

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You just I'm not saying mail it in but you got to find a halfway mark there. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agree

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I'm I prepare way more than double for the time that we're on air

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I feel like this is a cop-out and they're not serious about what they're doing Dan. I'm not saying

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Mail it in mm-hmm, but

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You should be really close to the edge of mailing it in that's where I think

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Already kind of mailing it in more work. I could be doing killing yourself. I'm not I'm large

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So the two of them have this conversation and Alex talks about how he has the demographic information about David Knight's listeners

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and likes means well, oh

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white

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All in for

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But the Venn diagram is old and white he's gonna say something complimentary about David Knight's listenership

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But in actuality if you listen to it

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It's actually an insult about Alex's own audience that Alex doesn't realize he's uh, he's insulting his listeners

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Play a few video clips do some red meat political stuff

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Yeah, I mean it look you've got we got the demographics that come in. We can see it on all the analytics

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You've got the high-end

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engineer type

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Astronaut type rich people smart people are listening to you because they know wow, this guy actually did research and that's great

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That's great. Ah, it does seem to imply

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My show is not getting those people. Yeah. No, you did research. Whereas my listenership

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They know I didn't it does that does seem to imply that like me and Owen Troyer. We don't do shit

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Yeah, you you will prepare a lot. That's why you had a fucking heart attack slow down

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It's gotta be a lot of stress. Is this conversation need to be happening on air certainly doesn't

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I can't I can't believe how much is as often as it happens

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I still can't believe how many production meetings we have on air

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But one of the reasons that it is happening on air is Alex is dealing with a lot of shit right now

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Uh-huh, and you know whether it be the Sandy Hook lawsuit the other lawsuits

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Him getting kicked off these dummy pages on Facebook that he had right, you know, like he has to find ways to spin these things

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He's seeing like Alexandria Ocasio-cortez doing really well

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In her beginning time in the house, right people responding quite well to her and her being very effective that scares the shit out of him

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Of course, you know, he has Roger Stone's trouble to deal with and his sort of lack of interest in being his sugar daddy

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Oh surprise lack of a better term, I guess he has his waning feelings about Trump that he has to

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You know dance delicately around especially with the State of the Union being on this evening

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of this episode here from February 5th, so he's got a lot he has a lot going on and

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And

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He needs David Knight

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He needs a saw like a puff piece when he's telling David Knight to play a video or do red meat political stuff

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This is his version of that. This is Alex's like do something right taking it easy, right?

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Everyone's thrilled to see him. You guys could just have a jovial conversation about how he's great and works a lot

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Right who gives a shit. Oh, it's it's low stakes

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That's a good point because what we're about to get into is on

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On top of all of that other stuff that Alex is wrestling with there's something else that's going on in his life

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Something stuck in his craw. Yeah, you bet but before we get to that

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Yes, that these announcers that talk over his like musical interludes. Sometimes, you know, they're like he fights against corrupt

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Yeah, yeah, Alex Jones and one of them made a big announcement that I didn't know

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Coming to you live from the infowars.com studios in the recaptured state of Texas

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It's Alex Jones at some point

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It's no longer occupied

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Was there a war we missed it might have been like Beto losing that could have been it you think so

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I don't know but then that's just the status quo remaining the same or more

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Democratic, you know the lower tiered positions down the ballot. Yeah, so I don't know

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I don't I don't know but at some point between I guess the last year it's no longer occupied, Texas. It is recaptured

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Fun, I would like to know first

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what their definition of capture is what the first capture of Texas was and

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Does it matter if the Spanish were involved? Mm-hmm? Oh that when I was in Texas, I tried to find Colonel Travis's grave

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Yeah, it turns out since San Antonio, so I couldn't make it to that

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but I did go to the State House and I found a

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Sort of memorial statue that they have to the those who were lost at the Alamo

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Yes, and there's a big tribute to Colonel Travis and I have a picture of myself giving it the finger

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Man there's some crazy racist statues. You did awesome courthouse

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Yeah, that's not a surprise to me or not the courthouse at the State House. It is nuts

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There's like an entire one to the Confederate dead

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And like it like on the plaque it it's right in front of the State House

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It is talking like it's war of northern aggression stuff. No the Lost Cause kind of language on the statue

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It's a giant statue

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It is nuts and then there's another statue if you walk a little bit ways over there's a statue

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Memorializing like Jefferson Davis. Hey, man, you got to give it up to God

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You got to give it up to the Somali pirates

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Yeah, and the fucking people who pride in of the Confederate sure that we still get to own people

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There's a big logo on that statue to even that says CSA really stylized. Yeah, my mom was like I saw that

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I didn't know what it was. I'm like Confederate States of America

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Caucasian slave assholes. Yeah, like that's nuts that that stuff is there

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It's why I'm brutal anyway. I missed out on seeing hey America's grave, but great. Yeah, so

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Anyway, it's been recaptured. Texas is cool. Now. Cool. Yes. All right. That's interesting. Good job guys

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Yeah, so we're gonna jump to Mexico owns it then. Yeah, it must be okay

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um, so in this next clip, we're gonna jump into what we're gonna be talking about on this episode and

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There's more to this than even the clips that I have

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Mm-hmm, and we can discuss that as it goes along. But yeah, if I were to pull all the clips

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That would be relevant to this episode. Yeah, it would be a two-day long episode quite frankly, but here is Alex introducing the theme

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You can run run run

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Get away for your date with destiny Jojo

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Joe Rogan

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Metaphysically is a Christmas hog

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And I'm gonna politically haul him up by his back legs and slit his throat

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His blood will fill buckets

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Politically not violently get ready job

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So alright has turned he or Joe. We're fighting. We're fighting with Joe

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He's gonna politically slit his throat and have his blood to fill buckets

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Alright, so Alex

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I was really hoping he had gone to the second night of acro cats and we were gonna be talking acro cats

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All night amazing that have been amazing. What if he had so disappointing that we're now just angry at Joe Rogan

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Yeah, I know it's kind of disappointing but there's something interesting going on here and I have a larger theory about what's going on

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Uh-huh, and why everyone it's it there's an irony that we're gonna be doing an episode here about how everyone should ignore this

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Yeah, there is a slight irony to that

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But I think it's important because I think it's a teaching moment

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And this is when you hit you just end record and we're just done. No, I mean everyone should be in Kansas

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We're gonna have fun on our episode

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But I think that people like a Joe Rogan or Howard Stern also is in the mix on sure why not?

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Do not respond to this sort of thing and everybody out there

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You need to stop like not I'm not gonna tell you how to live your lives

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But a wise decision would be to not

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Help be like pump this up like it's a pay-per-view fight

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Of course because the only person who benefits from that is Alex and that's why he's doing this

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Yeah, of course. So I want to talk a little bit about Alex and Joe Rogan and how they got to this point

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Uh-huh. Now we know that they've been friends since like 1998 or so

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they met back in in Austin and the two of them thought each other were crazy and

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Just like hey, you're fun, whatever

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You know in 2009 Joe Rogan was featured in the Obama deception

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Right interviewed for that and he's been a guest on Alex's show for a super long time. They're good drinking buddies. Sure

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Yeah, they like to drink and take drugs. Hell, yeah about once a year about two years ago

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Joe Rogan had Alex on episode 9-11 of his podcast

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which we went over I get it one of our early episodes and Alex got drunk on apple juice and smoked weed and

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acted like a complete dumb-dumb so

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That was that's where their relationship was going. Well, yeah, but since then

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Since that time that Alex was a guest on a Rogan's podcast things have gotten weird between the two of them

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This is like a behind the music episode right now

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Not really because I don't understand everything but I can tell you some of the broad strokes of how this went bad. Uh-huh

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so

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Through all of that all the time that things were getting weird from about two years ago when he was on his show till now

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Rogan has consistently taken the high road bending over backwards to give Alex a very generous public defense

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Even for things that Alex didn't deserve to be defended for over the years

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Rogan is thrown in little critiques of Alex's bullshit, but it's generally couched in a isn't this guy?

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So fun and crazy kind of way

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It's like a presentation of criticism that never really rises above good-natured ribbing and really just serves to help Alex's bottom line

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It's basically free press for him

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Yes

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Alex has always been really for the most part really fine with it for sure where things started to heat up was on episode

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1131 of Rogan's podcast with Dave Rubin is released in June 2018 on that episode

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Joe talked about his relationship with Alex. He discusses how much he likes Alex

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But how wrong he is about a lot of things

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This conversation was started by discussing Alex's claims that Anthony Bourdain was killed by Hillary's people and how offensive that sort of thing was

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Rogan talks at length about how Alex is also right about a lot of the stuff that he talks about particularly

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Earlier yeah times. Yeah, and how he turned him on to a lot of stuff. That was actually true

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about like

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The thing that he always brings up is the idea of like police infiltrating peaceful protests in order to turn them violent

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Right the agent provocateur stuff Chaney flew flight 63. Yes. Absolutely. So he talks about that a lot

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He gives him a lot of credibility even within this our discussion of how he's wrong about a lot of things

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but he's also

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You know, it's important to point out he says that a number of the things that he claims aren't real

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And one of those things is the idea that George Soros is a Nazi which is Alex's big big piece of business

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Alex didn't like this. So he took to the air

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Right after this episode came out to call out Joe Rogan

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He did his normal shtick claiming that Soros thinks he's the Messiah and then he had the best time of his life rounding up Jews

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in the Holocaust

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Alex insists that Joe knows all this stuff is true because Alex knows that he's told Joe these things and that Joe is

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And Joe is just defending George Soros even though he knows that he was a Nazi collaborator because Alex told him so

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Alex seems to think it's unfathomable

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That Joe just doesn't believe him or that he might have looked into it and found out that Alex is just making shit up

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so then

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When July 2018 you may recall that Alex was predicting that a second American Civil War was going to break out on

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Independence Day on that 4th of July Rogan recorded episode

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1140 of his podcast with Joey Diaz as the guest in the episode

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He laments that Alex has been saying that he's working with the deep state and is a Soros

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Apologist just because he doesn't agree with Alex about the Nazi shit

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Yeah

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Rogan keeps talking about how much he loves Alex and wishing that he would just calm down on the same episode

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Joey Diaz is clearly joking about

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Joe being in the CIA and talking about how he played pranks on Eddie Bravo by telling him shit about Rogan, right?

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Alex, I'm not saying mail it in but find a middle ground between how angry you are and where you are now, right?

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Right. Also Joey Diaz is clearly high out of his mind eating Chiba chews

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That sounds like Joey but from there after this point when Joe talks about it again on the air things kind of

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De-escalate and from everything I can tell from both of their versions of the story. They were in communication privately

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My gut tells me that Joe is able to talk Alex off the ledge and be like, come on, man

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Yeah, but I don't know who knows what was actually happening

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He sent a text that was like come on man and Alex was like, yeah, you know, yeah, whatever

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Yeah, then on January 10th 2019 Alex decided to get real serious with his former friend

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He was introducing Owen Benjamin the painfully unfunny comedian turned fourth-hour host of infowars

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He was introducing him for his segment and decided it was time for him to attack

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He was getting fed up with it

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Joe kept quote reading off George Soros talking points without ever specifying what those talking points are without ever

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Demonstrating that these alleged talking points are even real without establishing any of his claims

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He just launched into a screed of vaguely accusing Rogan of being a puppet of the CIA

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Working as a modern-day Timothy Leary to destroy the minds of the youth with drugs

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DMT that stuff that sounds right. It's a strange position for a professed libertarian to express but whatever drugs are illegal

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But I think they should be illegal now

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one of the important things to consider is that Owen Benjamin has only fairly recently become an employee of infowars and

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Another important thing to consider is that Owen Benjamin hates Joe Rogan

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You see Owen Benjamin was what you might call an early associate a lot of a lot of the members of the intellectual dark web

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But no one really cared when he got kicked off Twitter for harassing David Hogg after the Parkland shooting

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his status plummeted even within his own community and when the dump fuck article that came out about the the

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Idw the yeah, yeah, and he when he wasn't included Owen kind of lost his shit

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He started making videos about how members of the IDW told him that you know him being kicked off Twitter after that

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He was no good for their brand to be associated with course now

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So he started doing all this stuff attacking them very publicly

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Joe Rogan is like the he considers him the ringleader and the glue of all these

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But above him is Sam Harris. Sure. Why not all that stuff throw him in there?

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Yeah

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He was bitter as fuck and he began this crusade

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on calling these people out because he had an intense need to be the victim of the

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Situation that they had foist him into which made him a perfect in or infowars personality candidate, you know

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So his transition to infowars makes total sense. I can't prove anything

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But I definitely find it interesting that Alex's big turn on Rogan is happening while Owen Benjamin is being introduced for his fourth hour segment

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Fairly soon after he begins working there could be a coincidence or it could be this dude being a really negative influence on Alex

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It pushed him over the ledge on his erstwhile friend. I don't know. I'm not sure Owen Benjamin's a piece of shit

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Yes, but that attack on January 10th wasn't anything that moved the needle for me

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It sounded like you know any other time that Alex has talked shit

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Yeah, it was a little bit more like this seems weird. You see him a little bit angrier than normal

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But but not much more, you know, it's just he pretends to know something damaging

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He talks in circles for a bunch and then never demonstrates anything. It feels like a big who gives a fuck

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But then in episode 1238 of his podcast with guest Brian red band from February 4th of this year

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Joe discusses how Alex is in a bad place and that he still cares about him, but that Alex had lied to him

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He talked about how Alex was lying to him about what he'd said in the past about Sandy Hook and that Joe had seen all

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The videos of Alex saying that it was fake

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Yeah

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When Alex's position and what he what Joe allowed him to say on the show was that we just had debates that sort of

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So he was talking about like he's just making he's just making stuff up and I can't I can't abide by that

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He talked about how he how Alex believed

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Dumb bullshit about Rogan being threatened into not talking about conspiracies and how that was all a prank that they played on Eddie Bravo

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Joey Diaz told Eddie Bravo all this stuff. Yeah, and it was like Eddie believes it and Eddie told Alex. Oh

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So there's this whole thing of like Alex is reporting information coming from Eddie Bravo based on a Joey Diaz

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Chiba-chu prank, right, right, right. So you got that fucking Eddie Bravo you believe too much too much

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But through it all Joe was still talking about how right Alex is about some things some of those similar things from way back

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Yeah, and he was approaching the situation from a position of being a friend

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It was basically you could sum it up by saying like you need to stop making things up

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But I still love you and I would be on your show and if I saw you I'd give you a hug

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Yeah, that sort of thing

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It's a very complicated thing and he's talking about how complicated it is for him

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Because he knows that everybody looks at Alex and like this guy's a fucking monster. He's a liar and all this shit

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He's like, I know him. I've known him for a really long time. I

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You know, he is making stuff up if you stop doing that. Everything will be fine. Right, right

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I kind of have a similar position

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They're like all the trouble that Alex is in with all these lawsuits and all that shit

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It wouldn't it wouldn't be there if he didn't slander people like all of that stuff

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Yeah, it's a little bit like saying you know what you would be you wouldn't be

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On trial for murder if you hadn't murdered that guy man. Mm-hmm

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Oh, look, I love you. You're a good dude. I you shouldn't have murdered that guy though. You can't

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You can't live your life constantly going through it and being like everything negative about me is fake

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Yeah, you just can't and that's how Alex is operating. Yeah, what are you? OJ?

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I think Joe is tapping into a little bit of that or at least seeing a little bit now granted

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I want to say I'm not fucking a fan of Joe Rogan's naive gullible bullshit on his podcast

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oh, but he does have moments of decency and moments of like

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Not not falling into traps great on news radio wonderful

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And for your factor was pretty fun

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At points. So the point is that was on the fourth the episode with Brian red band and the episode that we're listening to is

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The fifth it's the next day and Alex is pissed right about this. He is pissed because

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Well, quite frankly, I have a number of theories one is Owen Benjamin

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I think that's a piece of it because he has he's on the warpath against Rogan and all the people in the IDW

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They know extra dark way, but he wants to take all of them down. He now he has Alex on his side

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It would be very easy to be like, hey, here's a good thing to do now

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If I were if I were to write this as a plan, yeah, I would be Owen Benjamin and I would say hey Alex look

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You aren't allowed on social media. You aren't allowed on all of these platforms, but you know, who is

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Joe Rogan start a fight with him. Yeah start a fight with him

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It'll get so much publicity cuz then people are gonna share all of your stuff all

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Over these social media and Rogan will be talking about the attacks that you make on ever if you lure him into an actual

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Fight it would be so good

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And then you could also appeal to Alex's ego by being like you could take him like not in a physical fight

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No, absolutely. You could take him in the info war, right?

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We could have another info scalp on your on your wall or whatever, you know

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So like I think I I get the sense I get the strong sense that this is like the motivation behind it

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Yeah

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it has to be Alex probably feels some personal betrayal because it's really hard to hear someone be like I

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I

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Care about you, but I know for a fact you've been lying to me. Yeah, that's hard

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Yeah, because the only response to that really is like I have I have been lying to you. I'm sorry. Let's make it right or

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Fuck you. You're a globalist. Yep

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Pretty much Alex tends to choose the latter psychopaths. Usually don't react well to criticism. No, no, and and so I

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Think that this is what's going on and one of the further things that makes me believe that we don't have any clips

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From this but from what I understand I didn't listen to a bunch of this

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But so Howard Stern has been having a Alex Jones impersonator come on his show and they make fun of him

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Yeah, and so Alex

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Started to try and attack Howard Stern and I think it's the same strategy

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I think it's the same things like Howard's got a huge audience. I attack him that will give me access to his audience

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Maybe if I do it well enough, he'll invite me on so we can argue. Yes something like that

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That would be great for the brand. Yeah, I can't get I can't get new people in otherwise

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Here's the important thing. I know I'm giving speech almost like this is the end of the episode already, but

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Alex's business model relies on there being more inflow than outflow, but he knows that there's gonna be both

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He knows that there's gonna be people that he can seduce into his worldview is overly simplistic and crypto bigoted worldview because of the

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the allure of the mystery of it and that's sort of the forbidden knowledge he knows that he can always get people in the

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Door if people have access to his things

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He also knows that not everyone's staying around people are gonna get disenchanted

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They're going to start looking into things that he at least some portion of them are. Yeah

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yeah, so he needs there to be more inflow than outflow and everything was fine from a business model perspective when he was

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allowed on everything and now he's not that's why his numbers are down is because

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You know the rate of people leaving him has stayed consistent right and the rate of people coming in has gone down

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Solution today find more ways to get people in you could do almost no better than co-opting

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Joe Rogan and Howard Stern, especially if you do it simultaneously pretty much. So I think that's the strategy that's going on

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Sorry about the little bit of a rant there

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But I think it's a pathetic and very sad situation

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It's the only thing that makes sense for him to do and I I mean if I was writing out a business plan

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It's like okay, so I attack

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Joe Rogan and Howard Stern and I turn a shit ton of people off to me

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but if one out of every thousand listeners that they have

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Fucking just looks into it and is like man. I think this Alex Jones guy is interesting

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That's a million people or a hundred thousand people which he needs desperately

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Yeah, yeah, and he realizes he can't get access to any other way exactly

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So that's that's a big part of it

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And I don't know

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I think that the reason that I want to focus on the Rogan one more than the Howard Stern one is

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I'm not a big Stern guy and I think that there's I have a lot of difficulties with him that I don't want to unpack

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Rogan is more familiar to our show. Mm-hmm, and there's much more personal stuff there

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Like Alex and Rogan have much more of a personal relationship. Yeah

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Yeah, and it makes it grosser because I've watched the videos of Rogan talking about him

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They come from a place of humanity. They come from a place of him being a friend like he's talking to a guy

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He doesn't want to say terrible things about right and then so to hear what Alex ends up saying about Rogan

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It makes it awful

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Like it's a really heart-wrenching kind of like a display of inhumanity on Alex's part and I think it's important to look at

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Yeah, because Alex is inhuman, right?

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You know, like that's part of being a psychopath as you're willing to shed these relationships whenever that becomes expedient for you, right?

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You know, yeah, and I mean, you know, you got one guy saying hey, I like this guy a lot

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He's a friend and you know

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When we're together, he's my friend, right?

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But he's lying about certain things and I wish you would stop doing that and then your response is

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I'm gonna hang him up by the legs and politically slit his throat

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It's a it's it's not a it's not a good reaction that that is

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a very similar reaction to what

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The American psychos reaction would be it makes the most sense as a strategic business decision

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And so here in this next clip Alex sort of gives a little bit of a speech

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But how we're marching to Valhalla, okay, which that's fun

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It should indicate what kind of mood he's in after he talks about slitting Rogan's throat. It could be

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Already told you globalists and all you minions system a long time ago

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I'm afraid of God

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When I'm not fighting you I feel scared

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When I'm fighting you I see God smiling in the center of my soul

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Right in my heart. I know the wind is filling my sails and I'm on a journey

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Where I'm supposed to go

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I'm on the path of my ancestors

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That's why I do this I guess to not do it is to lose the soul

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And you've all chosen your lot with the devil

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I've chosen that I must take you on

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It'll be this contest that defines us

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It'll be these wars these fights and make us who we are

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Okay, you say nothing once we stop fearing the devil

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And start taking the devil on as the day we start living

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And then you see the horizon

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You realize God's in control

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And the bluffs got to be called the enemy's got to be engaged

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Bones got to meet bone

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Swords got to meet shield

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The axe has got to come down on that skull

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And in the end, we'll see heaven

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Okay, all right, that's a cool that is a not good mood that is that uh, is that a direct quote from Friday Night Lights

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What's that? Swingin' X, bone on bone, can't lose

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You never like to see a guy in this kind of state

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I'm gonna be honest with you, that song is a lot better with Alex Jones giving apocalyptic

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Rants over it. I mean anytime you're in that mood at noon. That's a weird that's a weird day

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Yeah, so this next clip he just talks more about how he's gonna politically slit Rogan's throat

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I don't take any pleasure in this but it's you know, it's kind of like when you are slipping a hog's throat

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You know, it's squealing. It's up by its legs

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It's better to get the blood out and you don't want to hurt an animal

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But it has to be closed on as well when you gotta get in there. Just get it done quick

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You know, I mean, so I need to get on to that Joe Rogan piece of the show cuz Joe Rogan is a frickin hog

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Okay, Alex. Yeah Alex. Yeah, and and this I need to drive home

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If you listen to the stuff on Rogan's show, it's not scathing

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It's very soft. It is a friend

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Struggling with his friendship. It's emotionally resonant. Yeah to the point where you know, he like I keep saying he's like

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I like this guy if we're together we're friends. I would give him a hug

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Alex responds to that in the most inhuman way

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He just makes fun of the idea that Rogan's trying to treat him like a person. Oh, I love Joe yesterday

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Alex I still want to be your friend. Oh, oh, oh, oh, Joe, please be my friend

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I I've never taken anybody on before Joe. I I'm so scared right now. You're so tough

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You have a bald head and big muscles and take all that growth hormone and steroids. I'm so scared right now Joe, please don't hurt me

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Help me. I'm weak. Oh

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I

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I'm sorry

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I'm digressing a bit Wow. Yeah, that's we that's a bummer cuz Joe's not threatening him in any way

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No, if anything, it's the opposite of threatening what Alex takes it as a threat, which is strange

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well, the the threat is like Alex has to admit that he's

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capable of having emotions and he's not the because in this situation that

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absolutely for him would come off as a threat because Joe is presenting himself as the

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Person taking the high road the person who cares the person who I'm not sure I presenting himself as that

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Right in Alex's form of right, which puts him at a higher level than him

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Hmm, it is it is paternal Joe saying all this stuff is like you talking to your you know

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You could say it's you talking to your friend who's lost his way

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But if you're Alex, you could hear it as this is a prodigal son, you know

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They I'm the guy who's lost his way. Fuck you. You're a piece of shit, you know like that kind of thing

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Yeah, yeah, I could see that cuz there are some parts of Rogan's other comments that were like

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When you hear Alex talking about some of this stuff some of these like people drinking adrenochrome and stuff like that

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He's like this is not the guy I knew. Yeah, it isn't the same per he's going through some shit. Yeah, he's in a bad place

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then so I could yeah, I could see that I could see the

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like

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Alex could be threatened by the idea that his entire sort of

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Primary brand right now isn't like someone who actually knows him is pointing out like you have shifted entirely

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Yeah from what you used to be. Yeah. Yeah, which is not what you want to hear either

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No, and I guess you could respond to that with with some some anger, especially if you were a psychopath. Absolutely

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So in this next clip Alex makes a direct accusation

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Against Joe that I don't know might be true. I have no idea and we're again

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I gotta move on to Joe Rogan and move on to him. He puts cheese on toast cuz he's really asking for it. Oh

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Oh, oh, oh, oh

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Joe you you think you're already getting hit hard right now. Oh, just wait. Oh, maybe you get those Italian guys

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I mean in Vegas do something for you Joe. I'm so scared of them, too

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So anyways

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He is making implications and he does throughout that like the people behind the UFC are in the mob

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Or something along those lines. Yeah, and that Rogan has mob ties in in Vegas. Yeah, that doesn't sound

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Implausible. It's not beyond the veil of possibility

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Yeah, that kind of actually makes a lot of sense. I would buy that he's only other sort of like direct accusations are

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based on so Jack Dorsey from Twitter was on Rogan's show and

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the question came up of why Alex was banned from Twitter and Dorsey said I don't know and

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Then people are offended by that on you know, but I honestly I think he should know by now

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But the idea that he wasn't directly involved in that. Oh, yeah, I would believe that as a possibility

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I think it's also possible where he's like, I'm I of course. I don't know why he's banned

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I'm letting somebody who's way worse than him run Twitter right now

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I mean look all the reason like if you if he legitimately asked Jackie was like, okay

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What were the reasons that Alex was banned and Jack responded with the actual reasons?

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right then the next thing that you say like for Jack the

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Smartest thing to say is I don't know right because if he responded with actual reasons Joe goes

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Okay, Trump did that Trump did that Trump did that Trump did that sure did that Trump did that sure?

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What are your reasons then you do enter a?

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Conversation you can't exactly know, of course. I don't know is the correct answer. Sure. And I also believe it's possibly accurate

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It's also possibly accurate the idea that the CEO of a company doesn't know about operational day-to-day stuff

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I believe that a hundred percent right like I worked at Groupon Eric Lefkovsky didn't know shit about what was going on

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In any like sort of tendril of the company see you weren't there on the day

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He was filming the episode for undercover boss. I mean, I met him a couple times. He seemed a little bit aloof, but

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more casual clothes

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Anyway, I just saw when I was going over the billionaires list only for the for top 400. Yeah

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Yeah, he was on there was like motherfucker. Yeah kill him. I've been to the same room as you you billionaire son of a bitch

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so, um

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My my feeling on this. Oh, so he had Dorsey on and that sort of irked Alex

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Understandably. Yeah, but also on that episode Alex claims that Rogan didn't disclose that

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Dorsey is financially involved with one of his sponsors, which is cash app and

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Rogan says he did disclose that yeah, I

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Don't know. I think I okay. Yeah fine. I know that from other clips

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I've seen of Rogan talking about like cash app comes up

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Yeah

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and a reasonable person would assume that like from their conversations that

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Dorsey and Twitter is like in financially involved with it

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I don't think that it's as nearly as shady as a lot of the stuff Alex has done

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Yeah, yeah of like having his sponsors as guests and often not mentioning that they're the sponsors

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That's not stuff like that back in back in the day. That's Alex's primary business model for years

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Yeah was having my guests as or my sponsors as guests Bob

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Chapman's entire existence on the show was basically predicated on exactly so that criticism falls on deaf ears Joe might

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He let a motherfucker read limericks to him. Yeah, Joe might have like what is it?

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A splinter in his eye, but Alex has a plank or whatever. Yeah

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Yeah, but you know both the you know, fine criticism the proof of the splinter is in the plank in the eating the eyeball

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Yeah, so the other criticism that Alex has is that Joe is involved in pump-and-dump schemes. Okay, and maybe yeah

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Yeah, I I love it when two people that I don't like fight

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Yeah, and they reveal information where I'm like sure fine go for it. I know you're a piece of shit

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I agree on all fronts. I know with a reasonable amount of certainty

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But I probably couldn't prove in a court of law

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But I have very good reason to believe that a number of Joe's guests over the years

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Especially the ones who really heavily promote Bitcoin. Yeah were probably involved in some pump-and-dump type operation

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That's the entirety of that's a bit of crypto

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Exactly. A lot of it is these people scamming folks, right? And I don't know if Joe was involved

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I don't know if he got any money out of it, but he definitely was involved in

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Elevating some of these people who were probably in the middle of those operations for sure

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So he is complicit in some sense whether it was intentional or not. So that criticism is fine

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But I also still don't think it merits any of this

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I really don't like I think that there is a different way to do this

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I think that Alex is really just trying to lure Rogan into a protracted media battle where he can get

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The the better of him. Yeah. Yeah, he would this is professional wrestling for sure. Yeah, it appears to be so in this next clip

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This is a job man before he gets to Rogan

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He keeps saying I'm gonna get to him but before he gets to him he breaks down this other guy

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I guess the it's that big think that you know that thing, huh post videos around and stuff like that

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Vlogs and shit. Sure. Anyway, there's this there's this British guy whose name I can't remember but Alex keeps saying it's anus

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I think it's Enos

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anyway, nice Alex is saying that this dude is saying that Alex is threatening to kill the families of

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Victims of shootings and stuff like that. Okay, but really the conversation this guy is having is about like what do you do with?

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Obviously bad speech like what do you do with that? Right? And so he uses Alex as one example and then says and

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the sort of people who threaten the families of

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victims of stuff like he's not saying that Alex is one of them right, but Alex come like he

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Intentionally misrepresents whatever this house language is a companion piece to this bullshit. Yeah

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Is an example of something bad and then the people who threaten people's families right or another?

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Like tendril another cross-section of this and so Alex is like this guy is saying that I do that

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He's not saying that

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Whatever and so I'm just gonna play one clip of it because I think it demonstrates Alex doing exactly

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What he's accusing this guy of doing but that guy didn't do it. Now it says

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Respectful of how I just lied about someone it's lost in me to be respectful

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Malum per se evil in themselves and

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Oh

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I'm just saying if I was casting

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Mainly for like a maybe a Joseph Mengele mad Nazi scientist simply a child molester going whether he is more like Nazi scientist

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Okay. All right

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It's just a pathetic breakdown of like this this

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The clip that only vaguely mentions Alex and is more about all these other people

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And yeah, he does that. He does that thing. He always does we play a second of it. They back it up back

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Yeah, he made it through stop interrupting and I interrupts immediately

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Like the first thing that I thought was this guy has a very sleepy voice

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He was not a very compelling. It almost makes you beg for Alex. I know he was like

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Yeah, please and you're like Alex back it up and you're like, okay, thank God

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Yeah, so his next clip

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I mean those are those are like really the accusations that Alex has and the rest of this is just going to be garbage

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Listen to the reasoning that Alex uses in this next clip. And so just just enjoy how like flimsy this is

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He's trying to come down on Joe for possibly having an unnamed

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Group that sponsors him that does DMT retreats or something like okay

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But then Alex through what I would call terrible terrible logic

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Proves that the government is involved. Okay. I like that and then we looked at the groups funding Joe Rogan who

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Single-handedly that's pretty much relaunch the whole

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DMT, ayahuasca

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Movement with retreats

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In every city, I know and the police stand down cities

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Do you know and universities are involved which shows you there's government funding so I want to know how many cities

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He's not he knows now. I want to list 17. It cannot be long

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No, I can't but he's saying that universities are involved. He doesn't prove that doesn't substantiate that in any way

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No, that means that government funding is involved

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He also doesn't prove zero private known as that is proof zero private university

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Also, I don't know. I don't believe this quite frankly because I did find an ayahuasca

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group in in Chicago, uh-huh, and they are not connected to

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The universities there's no government funding involved at all

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I went and I couldn't actually partake in it because I didn't bring a fucking

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Pillow, it was a disaster. You didn't bring a pillow. That was very good. Damn it, Dan. There's one thing

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Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy's towel. I kind of made the faulty assumption that there would be like sleeping bags

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I brought nothing as soon as I showed up. I'm like I'm a fucking asshole. What is it?

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What is this a yoga class where you can rent a mat for a dollar? Hell no. This is ayahuasca

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Whatever. My point is that this these sorts of things do exist, you know, they are out there

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Yeah found but they're very secretive number one. I don't think for a good reason

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I don't think I could find it again because of all the because of all the very

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Illegal. Yeah, it's profoundly illegal. Yep. Yep. It's the idea that there are all these things in the States. That's not true

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There are some places you can go that are like Native American places

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We can take hallucinogenics and things like that as part of religious ceremonies, which means the government is absolutely not involved

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No, and they're very rare in the United States

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There's a number in like South America and Central America and actually one of Alex's former guests

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Who we just tried to brainstorm the name of and we I can't remember what his name is at all

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But he was a former police officer that Alex has on a bunch

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He started his own cottage industry of doing ayahuasca retreats in Central America

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So Alex has no like he didn't have a problem with that guy doing it. Why does he have a problem now?

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Oh because it's pettiness. Yep

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So whatever all these criticisms that he has like there there's like a couple of them that I find

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Some merit in but also your reason for bringing this up sucks and the rest of them

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Just like what are you talking about? Which again? You're a libertarian by your own by your own stated ideology

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You want these to be more widespread illegal? Why do you care what drugs people do? Yeah, that's their own body

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What don't you want to maximize freedom? No, no, I want to maximize my freedom. That's counter to

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Libertarianism yeah

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Anyway, well, you'll find they all kind of think that yeah kind of up. So in this next clip

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Alex thinks that Rogan has government talking points that he follows which I find to be a

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Absurd idea and then he expresses his idea that Rogan participates in pay-to-play

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Which we talked about here a second ago. Okay, so it's it's reach crazy town

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So I start calling Joe about a year ago and I say listen

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you

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Don't need to have me back on

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Skip said I'll have you back on it. I said no just translation. Please. Please. Please. Let me get back on

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I think Sandy Hook happened. I think school shootings happened, but things have been staged before so people have a right to question

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So stop going the talking point. I said it's really scary how you follow every talking point. The established was putting out

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Well, then he gets even worse. It's called reality

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And then he calls me and says I'm gonna have you on before the election

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It's I think some pacifism deal right when I was getting banned and then he doesn't return my call

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So I start researching Joe and now he's oh

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He's got is oh, here we go Dorsey and Twitter and Bitcoin and they're doing stuff that you know

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Floyd

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Mayweather had to pay

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$300,000 fines for there they're saying buy these products do these things and they're not saying they're paid by it

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So again, we already talked about this a little bit. Alex is way out of line complaining that someone else did that

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Seeing it's he does that all the time

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About journalistic integrity and video games down. No, but I mean it is it is a valid criticism

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Just not coming from Alex. Yeah, exactly if it's true. I don't know that it's true. I

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Don't care. I can't stress enough how much I don't care what these two area little

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Yeah, if only because it is a criticism that we've made of Alex and it would be kind of hypocritical if Joe Rogan's doing this

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Like shady business. Oh, yeah. No, if he's doing it, he can go fuck himself, too

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I don't know that he's doing it though. We know that Alex does it you bet or at least has

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yeah, so

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Alex is in this place and he's

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He's grasping at straws to try and validate his complaints about Joe in the same way

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He did when he was saying that like he doesn't think that

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Soros is a Nazi but knows he is because he I know that I've told him that right and if I tell something

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Somebody something then they must obviously believe it's true right or there or they're corrupted by the government

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That's the very definition of bad thinking and he's grasping at straws in the same way with this

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couple of

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Possibly decent criticisms and a ton of weak ones. Yep

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So the reason that he's doing this is like I said, I think he wants this all-out

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conflagration between the two that benefits him and he spells it out here and then

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It's this whole thing like I still want to hug ya know Joe I want you to be my enemy I

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Don't like you

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I'm guilty. I was ever nice to you. I knew her bad news 20 years ago. I should have ignored that

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You're a charming guy. I want war Joe. I want war. I don't want to be nice

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I want to be cleansed of you come friend day. I hear so much pain throughout this entire

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Like thing it's fun that he made a news radio reference or accidentally. This is Jimmy James. Hmm

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Don't you remember a super karate monkey death car? Wait what and then it's so that he reads the

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General translation and it's like war. No, no, that was very

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No, but it's fun for me. It's fun for me

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How awesome would it be if you said double came at some point? That would be fucking amazing

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And then the super karate monkey death car will come from my hut

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So like he wants he wants war and the reason is because this state that things are in right now is

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Okay, but it's not that good for him, right?

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If anything all this is going to do is make Joe Rogan's audience feel sad about Alex

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Mm-hmm

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and he needs them to be like thinking that Alex is kind of a threat because if

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Rogan's audience thinks that Alex is kind of a threat that might you know tickle their their brain their brain in such a ways

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They're like, let's go check. Oh, this guy is fucking pulling some shit. Maybe he's somebody to look into he's an equal

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He's an equal enemy. And instead it looks like he's pathetic and a loser. He's trying to do essentially what he

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managed to work out with Glenn Beck right back in 2009 this idea of a one-sided feud

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That worked out for Alex and both of them to some extent, you know, like they could both yell at each other

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but it it's it's this I

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I don't know how to put it any simpler than like this is another one of Alex's tricks. Yeah, it's just

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Start picking fights with people in order to gain access to their audience claim. You're bigger than them

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So obviously that's not your motivation right like you're much. No. No, no, I'm

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I don't need this. I'm not trying to poach audience members because I have all the audience members

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It's just a principled thing. You know, it's just a pump and dump scheme. I'm offended by that

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Hey, what are you gonna do? The only thing I'm gonna give Alex credit for is

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There were so many times he could have got on board with some Bitcoin schemes and he never that's true

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I I do again I my theory is that that is because he does not understand it and it is not physical

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It's very possible and the fact that he's run by a gold dude. Yeah, you know like old sales, dude

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Well, I might play into it. I mean hard currents exactly. That's what I'm saying. He's like Bitcoin cool

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I want some Bitcoin. When do I get to hold it in my hands?

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I you you don't get to hold it in your hands, then it's not real money

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I don't understand this blockchain a block and a chain are both things I can hold

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What's going on?

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This is our Laurel and Hardy mm-hmm, Alex Jones and somebody explaining Bitcoin sure

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So the yeah

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I I do respect that on some level though because he had a bunch of these these

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Bitcoin dudes on his show over the years

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He's had the Bitcoin guests and people coming in and telling him about how great Bitcoin is and he's always like

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He could he could have done it at any point right?

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I agree could be ignorance

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But even if it is good on him for that guy because he could have hurt a lot of people's life

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That's true by signing off on it. They could all gotten fucked. Yeah, so whatever even even if it's a neutral

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It's a neutral positive. Okay, all right. All right. It's a net positive for the world. Yeah, so in this next clip Alex

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Discusses what he's discovered about Rogan and his position in the world

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So so so here's what's gonna happen. I

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I got everything I got I got all of it

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Okay, I'm not asking for something from you, but war war I'm gonna expose everything I'm gonna unwind

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Everything about it. You understand. I'm gonna expose all of it every bit of it everything

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Because you're their darling. I figured it out

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You're their baby cake you're their model for the future

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You're oh, I hope I'll be on the internet when no one else is as some guru to everyone. I really hope and it's just not

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Gonna happen. I'm built for war Joe. I don't think that Joe's anyone's darling except the sort of

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The right that's ambivalent about their racism yeah like the mild right yeah, you know the mild to medium right yeah

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Yeah, yeah, they're not the alt-right. They're not the out-and-out white nationalists, but it's like

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Oh

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like a restrained

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Populist nationalist types yeah, it's like the survey

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They just did about how how many white people think blackface is bad

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And you're like a lot of them said I don't know those are the people who listen to Joe. There's a heavy overlap

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Yeah, you know what I'm thinking about I mean we touched on this a little bit earlier

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But I I'm thinking that there's maybe even more to the idea that Rogan is kind of the new Glenn Beck

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Then all right gave credence to because Glenn Beck tried to play like he was right about some stuff every now and again

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Yeah, he played the fence quite a bit, but also was a conduit towards harder right things

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Yeah through a lot of the the narratives that he got engaged in a lot of the things that seem to be

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Underlying his his ideas. I think there's I think there's something to be said for that

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And it was weird how many times Joey Diaz was on Fox News. That's true

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That was a weird thing for Glenn Beck. What is Russell doing on on Glenn Beck?

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Very strange booking

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I don't think I don't think that there's a one-to-one parallel

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But what is the same or at least is very similar between the two is that they're very easy entry points into things

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That don't appear to be what you're getting involved in right in the same way that Glenn Beck back in the day was a very

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Important piece of radicalization towards hard tea party stuff and people like Alex Jones

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the same way

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Joe Rogan exists as a sort of tepid bath that you can get into that the water rises really fast

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And you don't realize it while he's having all these islamophobic assholes

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And just people want to have ideas just trade ideas. Hey, man. We're just having debates right right great

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So I think I think there's something to that but also

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The

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Interesting difference between them is

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that

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Back in the day Alex Jones was the sole beneficiary of the Glenn Beck pipeline

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Now maybe not the sole beneficiary

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But he was one of the largest beneficiaries

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Because people who would get sort of seduced in with Glenn Beck's entry point when they would want something harder

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traveled towards Alex

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Nowadays with Rogan it doesn't necessarily flow to Alex it flows to people like Jordan Peterson

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Alex also hates right so the idea of him attacking Joe kind of makes sense because that pipeline doesn't feed him right

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It's interesting. I don't know these are a lot of unprocessed thoughts. Yeah, there's there's also got to be a ton of

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Alex

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feeling very very jealous that

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Like the the space that he carved out that he almost

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single-handedly carved out for himself right to his

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credit and to the world's detriment

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has now been superseded by all kinds of dumb fucks like like QAnon or Ben Shapiro or or

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Those fucks right where you're like god damn it

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I paved the way, and I'm getting fucked over now like I get it. Yep

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He's he's he's getting taken down by Marlowe man. That's what's going on here

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He was a he was a what's-his-face the the information scape that he helped create has fostered people who are much more

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Slick than him uh-huh and that's kind of the nature of how things go

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It always the next generation is always going to be better at the tools of the last generation

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Created right that that whole sort of thing is just the nature of life

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That's why you've got to do positive things

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You know you got a nurture positive folk because they will use those tools in positive ways

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Oh, yeah, as opposed to bull whatever this is and we've talked so much about it, but

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It's always important to be and to make an effort to be a ladder down kind of guy

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Yeah, you know like yeah, when I if I go up. I'm putting a ladder down for you, too

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Yeah, you mean Bono. I think so yeah. He's gonna need some help

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I think he's gonna need a lot of help so in this next clip Alex swears

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He's going to destroy Joe Rogan

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The threats don't matter to me the the the oh the oh, I'll still be your friend Joe. That's not a threat

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I'll never talk to you again. I'll never come on your show again. I'm going to destroy you

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I've I

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Understand it now

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I'm gonna get you

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I'm coming for you

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You understand that who do you think I am what do you think I do are we doing this show?

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This is a show is this an Infowars show

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Like leaving weird voicemails. It's very fucking somebody's dad's

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Homephone I like that Alex thinks that him saying I'm still your friend. I care about you

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That's a threat and then he goes I'm coming for you. I want war and that's not a threat like no well

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That's a threat in kind. You know you know how

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You know how when somebody's like really insane behavior

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I love you, and I care for you, and you're like I will kill you because that's what I heard in my head

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Totally mentally stable those are fighting words exactly

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I honestly as you're saying like is this a show that we're listening to I honestly feel like is this a show

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We are just going to end up listening to him have a complete breakdown. Yeah about Rogan

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And I don't know if there's much value other than demonstrating that this is a PR stunt

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Yeah, behind it is like what what he's doing is trying to find new ways to get that inflow of people

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To replace the people who are leaving him yeah, and this is the best way to do it I

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Don't know. I'm not sure it's our hardest-hitting episode. We'll ever have done in our lives, but I think it's important to

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Every now and again make a demonstration of what he's doing and why sometimes it's very enticing

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To post a ton of stuff about like Oh Rogan and Alex are gonna fight isn't this exciting

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Yeah

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And sometimes you got to curb that impulse because you're playing into the troll that Alex is doing

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You are unwittingly being a part of his PR stunt that would just fall flat if you don't right

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That's that's sort of my larger thesis about a lot of this. I I am interested to know

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You know because because the the the problem with the performative aspect of

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Podcasting in you know even if you have Joe Rogan's audience is like

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How much of that like I love you, and I care for you, and I would still give you a hug is

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Calculated how much of that is part of the performance it seems very conversational exactly

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But he has a guy who's done stand-up for a long time. I exactly you know like there's a lot of I mean

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A lot of stand-up training is making things that you plan to say seem extemporaneous, right?

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So I don't know you could if you want to get real sinister about it

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There could be a part that like he's trolling Alex with his his decency or whatever right you get into like

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That you that that is that is a Gordian not I know that you cannot untie that

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Which is the the thing that I am interested in is in all of this like Alex's reaction makes perfect sense to me

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He's a fucking lunatic of of course. He's gonna react like they had a lunatic who has calculating you lunatic with yeah

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Yeah, who's who clearly stands to benefit from his opportunity motive all of it right very clear whereas with Joe Joe has

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No reason to talk about Alex

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He does in the sense that a lot of people would be find it weird if he didn't right so to the extent that he

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Has I don't really I don't think it's all that weird. I think the motive is there in terms of like

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People expect him to at least address the idea that this person is attacking him right

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But my my thought is like I would be interested to know what Joe's actual response like just from a perfect

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emotional human standpoint to this would be because my suspicion is Joe is gonna listen to this and be like oh

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I get it

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Like I don't know how you could listen to Alex go this far, but I don't know

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After this I don't I don't I don't know if he has either

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I'm just saying like I don't know if you could listen to this and how over-the-fucking-top it is yeah without being like

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Dude, yeah, if you especially if you know the person yeah, if you just given like a sentence or two

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He's like you know what I don't

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What Joe did was unforgivable, and I will never go on his show again, and they did his regular show

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Yeah, I imagine that if I was Joe. I'd be like holy shit, man

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That wasn't cool

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But if you spend an hour and a half being like I'm gonna light his balls on fire with my nunchucks

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And you're like politically yeah, dude, dude. I get it. Yeah. I'm a bigger show than yours fine

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But when we talk about genuine Alex reactions

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We generally don't and we're not going to and this is definitely not no no bye

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No, the ones that aren't genuine often involved really creepy mumbles

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Oh, and this next clip is a perfect too late to rename our show to really creepy mumbles

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Don't give me any more pleasantries. I want war

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Give me your attacks

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everything

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Now you understand the shape of things that's good

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Now you understand I'll get my hands politically around your neck and all your tough guy craps gonna get real quick

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Because we've taken down Hillary is this what the shape of down the globalist and we're gonna take down Soros

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And we're gonna take you down

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Because God wants purity God wants things hot and cold not lukewarm. God wants me to wage war

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God told me destroy Joe Rogan

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Yes, sir. Jesus. I will do it. No more games war

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That's lame

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That's lame

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War your heart isn't in it war you want war against our children now war against God you will get war

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The harvest of war is here. We I will detonate thanks to God's blessing not the defeat of Hillary

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But the next great mission before I'm done

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I will detonate the war that leads to your destruction and Joe is only a baby in this

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But he's an example of these fools who must first be destroyed before they're cleansed

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So yeah, you're right. Boom. That's that's good. That's kind of the reason I played that clip

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Yeah, it's cuz it is so fucking awful. Yeah, so weak

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It's you can when it doesn't even feel like passionate. I know we've listened to a million hours of Alex

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And we can tell for sure when his heart is in the weird stupid fucking rant

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That clip is titled Alex wants war mumbles a bit. This is a PR stunt

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Because that's what you get from that. Yeah, like you get like there's there's intentionality. There's a craft to it

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Yeah, there is the idea that like give me your attacks. That's not saying I want to fight you

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That's like if you attack me, I really want that. Yep. That will be good for me, please

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I'm going to say horrible things in a hope that you cannot stop yourself from responding. Mm-hmm

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That's what's going on here. This is a this is a bait. This is a troll

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So anyway in this next clip Alex talks about how effective he is at attacking people and I have some thoughts

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Make all your deep fill your hand dude. You're in the full attack. That's even disappointing. Just get ready. It's gonna be long

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Fill your hand. It's gonna be a calm which redirects never stop and there has no one that's what stood it

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So I'm not on a power trip about that. In fact, I don't attack people unless I get greenlit at a gut level

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But I'm gonna run you politically and all the rest of your people over. So let's go to war

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No one has ever survived Alex attacking them. I'd like to tell you about two people

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I know at least one guy probably technically who didn't survive Alex attack true

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I know one guy who did and that was a guy who Alex went on air and said I will fight this lawsuit

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And I will win or I will die trying and then settled two days later and had to give a public apology to Hamdi

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Ulukaya

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Also, Alex had to give a public apology to James

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Oliphantus owner of comet ping-pong pizza for all the horrible shit. He said about him like everyone survives Alex's attacks

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Everyone does everyone, you know who survives Alex does because they just accept an apology and don't take him for all he's worth

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For all the defamation that he engages in so no Alex get out of here with his no one survives my attacks

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Oh fuck out of here, you know bullshit. You know what just occurred to me

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I think so far with our knowledge of Hamdi Ulukaya the least

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Beneficent thing he has ever done for the human race is not take Alex to the cleaners, right?

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You know like that might be the one black spot. Well, it's a matter of empathy

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But it's a matter of scale. It's the greater good man

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Well, you know, you know showing mercy to one person is showing a non mercy to many perhaps

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There you go

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And maybe he prioritized the one person who was in his crosshairs over the other people who would be hurt

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And maybe that's a failing or maybe that is just a let let the bygones be got bygones

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Right, right. Who knows that's the new morality question they have in those

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Ethics classes where it's like oh if you were if you had a lever

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Would you pull the train to kill one person and save five lives or would you leave it alone and let five people die?

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Would you sue a motherfucking asshole or save his life and ruin everybody else?

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Would you follow through with a lawsuit with a penitent bigot?

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Knowing that their apology will be in bad faith

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I know what I would do. I know what I would but I also don't second-guess Hamdi Ulukaya's decision

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I don't pretend to understand all the variables he was putting into place. So, you know, I I understand that greater

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Positives could have come out of Alex having to pay millions of dollars or whatever

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He would have had to pay when he was dead to rights in that lawsuit. Yeah, but you know, whatever

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For all the good Hamdi has done. I'm not gonna not gonna kick him for that losing points in my book

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So Alex keeps saying that Joe Rogan uses Soros talking points

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And like I said, he never really explains what these talking points are. He does say that he has like

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Inside documents of the talking points, but he never produces them. He never says what they say inside document all this bullshit

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It's just the white papers all over. Yeah. Yeah, but he does make one

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sort of example of what he means by

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Soros talking points and it's weak and he goes

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Oh, I'm not doing talking points and he goes but media matters says Jones says Sandy Hook never happened

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Media matters has some edited tape. I have a right to say Santa hook never happened

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And when the internet doubted it

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I looked at it and said I can see how people think it's totally synthetic in fact because of all the other false things

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we've seen dead babies and incubators and all the other fake news and then they edit that and then they sue me in

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Rigged jurisdictions, whatever. I'm not worried about that should be

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So Alex is claiming so the Soros talking points thing is just that Joe

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Referenced a video that was posted on media matters

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Yeah, now I do believe that the video probably was edited in as much as it's not Alex's entire show

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But it's not edited like spliced together in such a way as to be like taking I think that

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Sandy Hook was not real. I mean, we've played tons of clips in the past

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It was totally fake. Fuck this. I thought there were kids who actually died there turns out I was wrong all that stuff

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Yep, the idea the idea that like this is a Soros talking point because he got it from media matters is ludicrous

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That's just a source that he found the information that Alex was lying to him about

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Alex said all we did was question it. We had debates on a media matters. I found a video that was very clear

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It's Alex literally saying it didn't happen

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multiple times

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Multiple instances of him saying Sandy Hook was fake kids didn't die there. That's not using the Soros talking point

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That's using the video that they posted if anything that's using an Alex talking point

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Cuz they got it from him pretty much now if it was that

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Yeah, we'll kill you

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You media matters. Yeah, it's crazy. It's so crazy to me that like that's they're not James O'Keefe, right?

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But that's his only who Alex loves. Yeah, exactly

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That's his only example of the Soros talking point is that Joe mentioned that on media matters?

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He found a video of Alex saying that Sandy Hook was real perfect in his paranoid

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Psychology though what he has done is turned any

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point of reality that he fundamentally disagrees with into a

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Conspiracy or a Soros talking anything that pierces his fake reality exactly. Yeah. Yeah

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yeah, so so to me, it's just him saying Soros talking point is him saying a

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reality that I don't disagree with

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Or the reality that disagrees with me, right? Right, you know, right so he

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Tertiary Lee attached to Soros. Yeah, it's it's almost it's almost like if you if you were if he had forgotten where the

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Mississippi River was and you were like no it's on the line between these states

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He'd be like you're fucking Soros talking point, you know, like it just it doesn't mean anything

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Well, one of the things that I think is like interesting is like on our show when there's a source that's from infowars.com

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or that Alex uses or like Daily Caller or

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World world net a daily like I don't

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Not world star hip-hop, of course. I don't not read it, you know

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I think and if the article is good and it's sourced

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I'll still take a fucking article from Daily Caller if it's correct

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Yeah, you know like if it's not yeah, because it's information, right? Yeah

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It's it's generally most of the time that I have read them. It's a bad problems. Yeah, there's a problem

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Yeah, but just because I don't like the source doesn't mean I'm gonna throw the baby out with the bathwater and say like

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One time out of 10 million. They might have a good article or whatever

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Yeah, I'm not going to I'm gonna come in with a slight prejudice, but you know allow the possibility that this is real

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So when I hear things like and I could do that I could do that

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Like Oh Alex's reference like a daily caller article. This is big Tucker Carlson

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Yeah, I could just do that that game isn't fun because it's it's stupid

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It's just stupid and the idea that he's like Oh media matters got some funding from George Soros at some point

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Oh, it's all Soros narratives like the fuck out of here. So Jordan. I got a question for you

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What's that? Do you like literature? Well, I don't know Dan what kind of literature we talk. What do you know about my boy Queequeg?

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Oh man, he got fucked at this point in the show Alex launches into a what we'll go over the course of two clips a

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discussion about Moby Dick we're talking about Moby Dick and I

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legitimately excited to see what it is Alex because all I I think all he did was read the headline of Moby Dick Moby Dick

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big whale

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Guy obsessed white whale am I rooting for him or wait the guy is white too. Oh shit

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All I do is hope Queequeg dies. I don't think he knows Queequeg fair. I want to say this

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Before we get into any of this. I don't know what his point is. Listen to these clips

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I am not sure but I do know he has not read Moby Dick. I know that for sure

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You've chosen the wrong side and you're going to be destroyed no matter what happens to me Joe. You're done

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It's like Captain Ahab and and the whale

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Moby Dick

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You know is Joe Rogan Bill Shakes Captain Ahab or is he Moby Dick? I don't care either way

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What the point is you should is that I sit there with the number one political show on YouTube

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The Joe was viciously jealous of and admit it was way bigger than his show

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But and then I get taken off and then he gets up there and and talks about how I want on his show and all

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This crap dude. I don't want laurels that I didn't earn

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I don't want to be you. I don't want to be

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your

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Whale are you the captain? I don't know seems important in the metaphor could be anybody I guess

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Are there any other supporting characters in that book?

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Mmm, what about the many movie adaptations that were made of it? Here's my problem with this

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I don't even understand why that started, you know, like I don't understand why the Moby Dick metaphor started. I

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Think I think what he's thinking is who's hunting whom I think well

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I think he's thinking he's Captain Ahab and Rogan is the white whale. No. No, he's gonna die taking down the white whale

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Emotionally where he's at. Yes. I agree. Yeah, but not based on what he just said. I

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Don't get what he just said. Well, I kind of don't think he knows if

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if anybody wins in the

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Kind of don't think he's like I think he's like hedging his bets. He fell asleep in the middle of the movie adaptation

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Um, I am not sure if the whale or the guy won

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So, you know what who is the good guy?

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Let's throw them all in there and the answer is none of them were a good guy Alex

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So in a certain way his metaphor does kind of make sense in that clip

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I was like, I'm very confused by what you're trying to say

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I don't understand and then on the other hand the whale was just a fucking whale true

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It was a metaphor for other shit. Well get this in this next clip. Alex tries to take the metaphor into different places

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Oh, that's not gonna be good interestingly makes it worse. That doesn't sound possible

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Well, not worse

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But it more clear that he doesn't know what he's talking about

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I find very interesting and then he spirals into talking about how he's gonna choke Rogan out with his tentacles because now he's a squid

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See Captain Ahab isn't fighting a whale is he see that's that's true. No, no, but that's true. We're like Alex

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Okay, that's true. Maybe you've read it. Maybe you read the spark. Yes

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Yeah, you're getting it. Okay. He's not actually fighting the whale. Yes. All right. Yeah, right Alex

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That was the only part I'm like

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Is Alex going to come correct?

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nope

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If you're a whale you're fighting a big squid

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No whale no sperm whales ever fought that just a little sperm whale. There's a squid this long. That's me

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one of my tentacles and

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Your entire head

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I'm gonna show you one tentacle right now is wrapped around you

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Okay

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And don't worry

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Very slowly

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Squeeze and give you what you want Hollywood

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engines is God

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That's where this all comes from

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And so now you have the full

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Full heat loads. See this is only start

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That's I wish I was an adult. I wish I was an adult. That's so weird

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How like a sound effect was just a fart? That's so crazy

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I'm the squid is now great. What isn't that? Great. That is great. What starts with interesting like, oh

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Doesn't matter cuz now I'm a squid. I'm gonna choke you out

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This is like a 12 year old. This is this is a child where it's like, oh, yeah, 20,000 leagues. Oh, yeah

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He definitely hasn't seen the squid in the whale that's a very different movie maybe that maybe he's seen the headline

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But I don't mean title I

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Thought it was an adaptation

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That must be Moby Dick right Kevin. I have the squid. I remember my favorite part of Moby Dick was whenever

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Captain Ahab

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Tragically throwing his spear right at the whale and then goes down and and then it turns out that there's just a giant squid that

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Ate him both. It was a real Twilight Zone twist for for Moby Dick to have quit is ex machino. Yeah

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Disappointing

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narrative level

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It actually all turned out to be a dream that the squid was having right that is crazy. Yeah, it was a

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It was a five-year-old autistic kid. Yeah

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So look dude, I have a lot of thoughts about

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What Alex's motivation is in doing all this like I've expressed already. I think it's a crass PR stunt

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Yeah, I think it's also probably partially involved in Owen Benjamin being a negative influence on Alex

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but then also Alex in this next clip gives a reason for why he's doing this that I think is

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Simultaneously true and also Alex is saying this as sort of blustery bullshit

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Yeah, but I think that there is a I would say maybe a 15% truth to this next clip

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so see Joe, you're my way to get Jack Dorsey and

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You're my way to get them all and so now

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It's kind of like

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Missile command you can hit those buttons as fast as you want, but more missiles just keep coming to home. I

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Don't care if you blow me out of the air

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Because I've already launched a thousand other missiles Joe

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See Joe you're in the pretend Hollywood world. I'm in the big boy world

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the big boy world

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Sorry, let's stop pontificating. No, let's stop metaphoring. That wasn't pontificating at all. That was just mumbling of the missile

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Stuff is not the 15% true. I think that there's a tiny truth to Alex thinking that attacking Joe will somehow

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Be a message to Jack and maybe get him back on Twitter or something like that

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Yeah, or a way for him to then attack Jack through attacking Rogan. Yeah or something like that, but I feel like

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first of all, I feel like the fact that Alex is saying it means it's not really what he's

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Angling for and then also I just don't think it's a reasonable expectation to have from attacking Joe. I

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Think that right now

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Twitter is his white whale

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Perhaps all of social media is Alex's white whale who's ish male and

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He's he's gonna go down

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And he's never getting back on either of those things

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And even if he does it will be at the end of both of them and friendster is a squid

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Friendster is a squid man. Wouldn't it be amazing if friendster wound up winning throughout all of us?

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Somebody just brings it back Wow

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That would be a twist. That would be a twist. What a twist. I don't know

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What if M Night Shyamalan directed Moby Dick? What if he directed social media?

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So in this next clip

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I already told you that Eddie Bravo telling Alex that Rogan was being threatened and all that stuff was a Joey Diaz prank

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Yeah, Alex doesn't realize that in this next clip. So you sit there and

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You attack me and say I was dishonest with you and then he goes oh

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And I was never threatened Jones a lot about that Eddie Bravo told me you were threatened

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I'm sure Eddie's a great guy. He won't talk to me since all this happened. He said that he admitted

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He said that so I didn't lie Eddie. Bravo said that it doesn't matter Joe. You shouldn't listen to Eddie Bravo

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No one should listen to Eddie Bravo. He's a nice guy, but don't take him serious

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He's a sweetheart, but he is the dumbest man. I've ever heard. Maybe not even the dumbest man, but most gullible

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Oh, he's so gullible. He's very smart in specific ways. Like it don't take that away from him. No like

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He's a his brain has a good capacity to to understand a lot of the the kinesthetic things that you and I couldn't possibly

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Oh, absolutely not the idea of like how to use your body in certain ways

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He's a genius in many ways, but he is very fucking gullible. He's very

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Glad Arthur, right? I don't know if he is presently

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Certainly has been in the past. I

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Would say he's a very fun person to be around. Yeah long as you dismiss

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Ideas that can't be backed up Alex is not the sort of receptor

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Like he's a bad person to talk to Eddie Bravo because Eddie talks shit

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And he's yeah gullible as hell and just repeats things and then Alex is like, oh, I'll take that as a source

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Yeah, yeah, and so then it becomes Alex is like on airs like

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Joe Rogan's been threatened

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Any man and then when it comes out that he hasn't been and Joe's like Alex keeps saying my family's been threatened

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That's bullshit. I don't know. I don't know why he's saying this. Oh, it turns out is a Joe Diaz prank. Yeah

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Then Alex is like hey Eddie Bravo told me that right if you Alex Jones are

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Reporting things that Eddie Bravo tells you socially that calls into question

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Everything that you've ever reported from an anonymous source because it could be any Bravo

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It could be it could be Eddie Bravo it 100%

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No disrespect to Eddie Bravo, but you're not a high-level source, but that's what's interesting about him

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I've listened to a bunch of stuff

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He like interviews of him and like episodes of him on Rogan and stuff and he's he's obnoxious and a little annoying at times

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And stuff but I have no problem with that. He still has a charm to him that I never want to

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I never want to attack him and I never want to talk shit. I wish

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You know like I just

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He has he has some innocence to him that

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He has a complete lack of guile

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He's a complete lack of guile there's no craft to his you know, no, there's no there doesn't appear to be like

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Malice or intent? Yeah, he wants to believe it's not that he wants to do anything beyond that

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It's like gullible Fox Mulder. Yeah. Yeah, which could just be Fox Mulder

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so in this next clip

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This there's no point for me to play this clip, but I'm going to anyway

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I think it's so funny in the middle of this show or we're getting towards the end of February 5th

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Uh, and Alex the break music is playing like it's all it's all going the Amen break

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and

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Coolherc is in is spinning in the back. He's in the middle of just

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Nothing, and he decides to launch into an entirely new conversation as the going to break music plays

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Okay, and he gets hit by a hard break while he talks about darts as a metaphor

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Paul Watson is gonna transfer his brain into mine. That's what I'd like. Here's what happened. I'm sorry

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I took the gloves off that we should go the gloves are off with all of you

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I've never felt better in my life. I'm hurt. I sit there

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Hit like 15 feet and throw triple bull's-eyes. I'm in pain right now

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Someone how I finally decided to cry you may need this herbal tea for relief right a heartbreak heartbreak

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I'm great darts at the dark. You might need this herbal tea

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Oh man, there's nothing like a man expressing deep deep psychological pain

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Yeah, and then getting cut off by fucking herbal tea. That's fantastic. Yeah, so he plays a bit of Rogan's

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Talking about him. Uh-huh, and he just interrupts it the same way

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He does of course and I wanted to cut a bunch of that stuff

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But I really didn't think it actually went that well. Yeah for Alex or for like

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understanding his mental state like it just was kind of boilerplate in a lot of ways and he only gets through maybe

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Two sentences or two or three sentences that Rogan says yeah, and then he's like I need to do this later

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Because you know what Paul Joseph Watson's hosting the next hour, right?

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I gotta I gotta let him host so I'm gonna get out of here, you know that sort of thing

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Yeah, we'll do it later. Yeah, and so the next day, you know, we get to the sixth and I'm like well

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last night was the

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state of the Union

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So probably gonna hear about that. Nope, but also but also Rogan

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He's still mad at Rogan and he said he's gonna get back to it. So we jump into the sixth and listen to this shit

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You know, I miss Joe Rogan's phone call last night

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Had my phone off

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Sure, you did

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But I really am so disgusted. I don't know if I would have taken the call and I knew he called

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Nevertheless Joe will be on with us at the bottom of the next hour live

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So, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I refuse to believe that's real. Isn't that wild?

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He should have a Joe Rogan impersonator on. Isn't that wild? Isn't that wild? The idea, the very idea

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Wouldn't that be almost too conciliatory?

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Fuck off! He just said he was gonna slit his throat politically

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Well, let's finish the clip. So I guess we'll take his call live here on air

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Unlike the fact that he never must be defending myself on his podcast

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I thought you didn't care about going on his podcast. Seems like you care

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So Joe Rogan will be on

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bottom of the next hour

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Along with traffic. And of course satire starts with an S. I'll leave it at that

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What does that mean? Satire starts with an S. Does that mean, is that an attire reference? Attire, clothing

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What, what does satire begins with an S mean?

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I don't, I really don't understand that one. I don't get the reference. Is that a thing?

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It might, it might be but I don't, I don't, that's certainly not something, that's not a colloquialism I've ever heard

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I've never heard that. Yeah, I don't know but that should give you some indication that Joe Rogan is not coming up on the show

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Oh, he's not? No

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Oh, oh

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I get it

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He's gonna make fun of Rogan later. I get it. He's gonna talk about Rogan

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But he's, but he's made it vague enough that if you're listening and you don't understand what he's saying

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That will be something that people start putting out in the social media

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Rogan's going to be coming up on the show. Right. The guys are gonna actually have a fight on air. It's gonna be awesome

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Yeah, that's such a bummer. This is just another manipulative trick that he's pulling. That's such a bummer

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I will tell you this right now when you type in

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Satire begins with an S, even if you're using quotation marks around it, Google has no answer for you. That sounds about right

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Google's like, are you looking for satire or are you looking for colloquialisms that don't exist?

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That's honestly probably a Moby Dick quote

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If I had to guess

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So Alex has... Everybody knows a modest proposal begins with an M

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So we all know, because I've already told you Rogan isn't coming, but Alex is gonna do something that's very disappointing

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But if you're listening to this, he's presented the premise that Rogan is gonna be on later

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Yeah

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And so he does the rest of the show

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with a ton of ads and stuff like that because he is... He knows that everybody's sitting there waiting. He's done

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what is sort of the

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propaganda show version of a thirst trap

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Yeah

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Which is the idea that like, sure, there's no cleavage here or anything like that

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But it is the anticipation, the idea that Rogan might be calling it. Right, right, right.

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Can you imagine how much fun that'll be? Right. And so he... It's like when you're watching the biggest little whorehouse in Texas

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and you're like, oh, Dolly Parton, she's in the whorehouse, isn't my favorite thing

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Now it's a musical

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Now what's weird about this is that Alex does talk a bit about the the State of the Union

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And a lot of it is kind of what I would categorize as like, boy

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He's defending Trump, but it's not the same as it used to be. It's not the same thing. It's defending

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Trump by virtue of

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Attacking the people he wants to attack. Right. It's different than like, this guy gets it all

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Now the exception is that Trump was talking about killing babies as opposed to talking about

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Preventative care and abortion being women's health care and Alex was thrilled about that

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But even six months ago

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Trump saying something like that would have been the entire show and it was just something he's like, it's great

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He said that yeah as if it was just another politician who had said yeah

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so there there are changes you can see even within that but it's not really important because

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Alex gets

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So weird on this February 6th show in a way that I think is irresponsible and I think he didn't mean to do

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Mm-hmm. He starts

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I'm gonna be honest with you. He might as well be a project Camelot episode right now

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Okay, now you're on out now. I'm in we're in spider leadership territory from here on out. The rest of this is

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slight Rogan stuff and project Camelot

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Listen to this fucking shit this you might you could easily imagine

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Carrie Cassidy listening to this silently and then once the clip ends are saying hmm and

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I knew God was real and I knew all this was real before

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Right because of experiences and six cents and things I grew up seeing and all of it

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But when I went to a city fully under

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Alien control

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Like San Francisco or Seattle that's couple their main bases as you know their main breakthrough points they breached

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They've got pretty much the whole city under their control alien demons. Whatever it is. Whatever is that?

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The Zimmerman is not a cowardly guy. That's his one of his producers. Oh, okay with me after about two days

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We were there for six days

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In in Seattle particularly because he saw it. I

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Want to own a pause right there Zimmerman is one of his cameramen producer guys

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And so like Alex is gonna be like he saw the evil there and I'm guessing what really happened

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Is this is a young buck some some guy who's just like I don't I think that every time we go out

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It's really hostile and I don't want to be I don't want to I didn't sign up for this, right?

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All right, I assume that's the case. But see cuz my first thought was he's talking about Zimmerman

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Fucking murderer. Okay. No, he is not yet an employee of info. Yeah, no shit. He saw it where

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We would round one corner and

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The it was like it was like agent Smith in the matrix the elites telling you all this

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Let's just jump around person after person and it was like people were

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saying incredibly evil horrible things

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To me as I would round the corner. The next person would finish the sentence and do it in a demonic voice

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I don't we've played a lot of these videos. No

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Haven't you heard all those demonic voice videos? He hasn't played these videos

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It'd be amazing if he had that would be awesome the idea of him having a conversation with one person over here the camera pans around

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The corner the other person finishes their sentence in a demonic voice. That'd be fantastic

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That video would be crazy dude. I would I was doesn't have that video

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He shouldn't even if he doesn't and he didn't even bother to stage it because that would be a perfect video to stage

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It would be very very easy. So easy. Yeah. Yep. This guy's lazy

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I didn't even read Moby Dick

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So

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That's one thing now. I'll be clear like Alex is like he's saying these are cities under alien control

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I said call them demons whatever you want. Call them whatever you want

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I don't think that's good enough like in terms of dismissing that he is saying it's demons or aliens

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Because he is saying that yeah in this next clip. He makes clear

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That it's an invasion

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There's no doubt now

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That this is an interdimensional alien invasion and you notice they don't ever play me saying that there's no doubt because they know it

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San Francisco, and they never play him. They worship it. They believe that they are bread if you read the Bible

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It's exactly that a literal lower-level dimensional attack and that's why when you run into these things, they're so low-level. They're so stupid

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They're so hateful and all they want to do like zombies is kill people and attack children. So

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And I guess the operating system is thing that make us all kill each other

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I'm sure I'm not I've looked at every angle of it

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But the point is all gone and everybody else and I had general trouble buying ran the operations about this

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They were given volunteers like astronauts mega doses of drugs

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Okay with wires hooked into their brains and they were in interdimensional meetings with the damn aliens. Get out. Yeah, okay

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You don't meet the aliens in a flying saucer by the moon. Keep it coming, baby in this interdimensional vortex

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I'm eating it up the one saying it they're the ones that are doing it

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that's

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Insane that is that Alex should not be talking loose lips sink ships to quote Ishmael

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This is

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Terrible the idea because he always talks so vaguely about where he's getting this information from now

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We know a lot of that stuff is coming from stubble buying stubble. I know that baby out with that bath water

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Goodbye, because general stubble buying Alex could not have been talking to him

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before he was

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70 years old and had been drummed out of the service in 1984 for bringing quote-unquote

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psychics into secured areas they weren't allowed to be into and

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Had spent years and a ton of government money unsuccessfully trying to walk through walls

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So I don't give a fuck whatever he's talking about

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Like general stubble buying is someone who you should interview and be interested by the quirks

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It should not be somebody that you're like this guy knows everything

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That's bad to me

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So now Alex you've got this information about the interdimensional invasion of alien demons and stuff

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And the first thing you come up with is fucking stop. I told me I'm not interested. I'm not interested if

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You fucked up by telling me your source. It makes me

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Frustrated that you can't get a metaphor about Moby Dick, right?

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But at the same time you're going to say that there are interdimensional aliens, and I thought he was starting out as a metaphor

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I thought interdimensional aliens started out as being like these libs there are these illegal immigrants or anything like this

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Well, they're the jumps direct in well

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Actual alien invasion the libs and the immigrants and all them. We are we are

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Aliens no no we're under the sway of it. Well. I mean I guess it's probably a man

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Yeah, yeah, like so where are you in the hierarchy some?

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Probably or secretly demonic

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people like AOC

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But someone like you or me we're probably just under the sway of some of these disco demons

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The disco demon yeah, well, we are in Chicago, and we were around for disco. No we weren't around, but this is

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disco demolition night

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I'm a big fan of Italian disco. That was totally lower a lower level demons um so yeah

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I think that he obviously the presentation of it is the people who believe

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Left-leaning policies and that sort of thing are the ones who are a part of this demonic invasion right of course

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But probably not the actual demon that he always tries to do this fucking stupid game that he plays where he's like

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This is what I'm saying. This is what these people are into when I'm fucking like trying to fight against it

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Do you understand how badly I need to fight against this this is life or death people?

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Yeah, like that sort of thing and then two minutes later. He'll be like I don't believe it

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They believe right right right and it's like man if you are if your enemy believes something that you don't believe you

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Don't have to fight them

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Because they're dumb what like if they believe something no idea that aliens give them power

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And there isn't a power

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You don't have to like diffuse that power. It doesn't exist

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It's not real. So I I just want to be really clear on this

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People who are like

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We should and can provide health care

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and then people who are like

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we should spend less money on a

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ridiculous military and

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Spend more of that on people and people who are like maybe the wealthy don't need to have all of the money

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And we should spread it around right those people are

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demons

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Largely in this next clip Alex talks more about some of these generals that he's talked to uh-huh who have talked to aliens

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Wait, we're really doing the alien stuff. Oh, yeah, this is project Camelot man. Oh call it aliens. Whatever it is, man

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I've had three star generals on that had people wires up to their brains in damn two-year meetings with aliens

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That lasted one second long. I

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Mean you understand folks. That's what the Pentagon does. That's what's going on. It's already happening. It's been happening for decades. I

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Thought they were fucking up Venezuela aliens that will contact this planet are bad folks

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God doesn't contact us because of free will oh boy. I thought

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This is like a flu or cancer we have this crap

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Oh, okay, and everyone knows it at a genetic level that we're far superior to these these damn

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Zombies so they tell us to give in to them and submit to them and go along with all this and have no morals

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So that they can run their operating system and poison the sky and the genetics and irrevocably attack us. We are under attack

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We are under attack. This is not of this world

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So it's aliens. They're coming in telling us to destroy ourselves and what have you poison the sky

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I don't know

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The only thing that I've ever seen it was against poison this guy was regulations against pollution and stuff like that have regulations

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They're evil. Yeah, it's a problem. I

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Kinda am offended

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What level I I think that's really xenophobic

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And I don't think that's okay. Yeah, I don't think that's okay. I'm gonna take a stand here. I

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Think that's racist

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against the whole galaxy I

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Fucking racist aliens or no. He's racist towards aliens

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Yeah, but I mean I I do admire his restraint and not saying those rappers

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Sure

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I've had generals on who told me people have had probes in their head and they two year-long meetings in this second

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Second second. Oh, that doesn't sound suspicious at all. This is all project. That sounds like the plot of

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Contact but okay

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It's all exactly the same sort of stuff that we see on project Camelot and what's so interesting to me is oftentimes when we make

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The connection between these worlds. It's so much of these ding-dongs on project Camelot that relate to things Alex says

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Yeah, it's kind of rare that we see Alex just overtly

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Straight yeah the same sort of secret space program nonsense that we see in Carrie's

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Well, I talked to this incredible captain who told me all about these Raptors. Oh, dude, we got to try and hook them up

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Oh, we do got to try and hook them up. Yeah, but Alex can't make it to Vacaville

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Austin doesn't travel much, but he could send one of his own Benjamin. Sure

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Get him out of town for a while. Maybe friends up a friendship with

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With Captain Mark Richards and then the last person who would be the two of them become friends and then maybe three months later

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Mark Richards is like I don't want to fucking talk to Owen Benjamin anymore. Oh and Benjamin starts making videos about how

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Mark Richards is full of shit. I'll tell you this right now. He just listens to Sam Harris all the time

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I'll tell you this right now. They would not let a let Alex have a pen in Vacaville

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He is definitely using a crayon to write out his notes

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Undoubtedly, so in the sex clip Alex talks about how these aliens but he's afraid of yeah, which by the way

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He keeps saying like he's such a coward because he makes that he keeps making this whole thing

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I was like, I don't believe this they believe it. It's like you are you are expressing that you believe this

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He literally just said it's interdimensional. He said it multiple times. Yeah. Yes, absolutely

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He's saying that this is what I believe in

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He wants to phrase it more like demons. Yeah, some people might think it's aliens

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he's accepting the label of alien, but I

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Just think it's so cowardly that he keeps couching it with like

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Everyone says that I think this no, it's what they think and I'm scared that they think yeah

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Yeah, just make your point or don't yeah stand your crack up. Yeah, exactly. Yeah

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Yeah, I make I weird we're fine making our claims that Alex is full of shit

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I'm not saying that someone else said it

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No, we're saying it. Yeah. Yep

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Say what you mean Alex and what he means you can glean from context clues and it is that there is an

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Interdimensional invasion that is coming to earth whether it be aliens or demons

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Whatever and there's a tree. What is the difference really right and there's a transmission that they're sending

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Okay

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That's what we're dealing with a nocturnal spirit a force a broadcast kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves

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kill yourselves you dial into the global channel, it's

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Just like death metal

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The best metal singer ever hell I can just dial into the frequency. That's all you hear

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They live was about Reagan

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They go. Oh you saw schizophrenic schizophrenics are people that have already fallen to this stuff. Okay, that's why perception is so narrow

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Wait, huh? People can't handle this. I'm not the one saying all this San Francisco big tech literally worship

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Compliment your health with got caught by another heartbreak. They're sorry about that Alex. I

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Can't get enough of that. He almost doesn't know how to do his show anymore

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I would like 30 more examples of him in the middle of screaming and then it just gets cut off by a

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I would say it happens more than you think I love it and it almost it charms me a little

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Bit more than even the ad pivots. Oh, absolutely

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Noticing like I'm looking at all our clips and there's no ad pivots, but they happened

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Yeah, like they happen throughout the entire two days that we're covering of course

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But it is more funny to have him cut off in the middle of a so passionate sentence

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So for a milquetoast weird dumb ad Oh insane

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Um, yeah, so there's a transmission coming that says kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself. Yeah. Yeah, they live so

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He said at the beginning this episode that Rogan is gonna be on and we've already dealt with the fact that he's not going

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To come on so there's no reveal there necessarily, right?

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But if you're listening you probably still think he is coming on right so it's gonna be a surprise that an hour later

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Mike Adams comes on and

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Mike Adams the health Ranger shows up and Alex does this whole little song and dance about like hey Mike Adams

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Mike Adams the measles outbreak Ranger. Hey, you're a big you're you're a busy guy

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You're we have a big business to take care of. You're a busy guy

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Why did you get in touch with me and want to get on today? Why is it so important that you get on?

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and so they talk some shit about Joe Rogan and

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Then of course then Mike says this and it's important to consider that the way he's talking

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Implies that he was listening to the beginning of the show because he references how he thinks Joe's gonna be on well

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No, oh, he's listened to Alex's talk about these aliens and their agenda

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Oh, no, this is the health Ranger. This is getting wild

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Well first Alex, I want to say that you on the cosmic extermination

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Agenda that you have been talking about. I just want to affirm that you are

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100% on track that the call has gone out to exterminate humanity and this is why Democrats are now pro-infanticide

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This is why they they love the idea of murdering Christians murdering conservatives killing Trump

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They're all about death and execution now because the order has come down

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from aliens Wow demons Wow, that's

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wild

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Wow, these people are so goddamn stupid white people do not like to lose

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It's just it's just insane. I don't understand it. We're white. It has to be aliens

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It's just nuts like prove your first concept like like in any of this stuff

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Like prove any of the things you're saying. I don't know who you are Dan right now

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Hey, either though a have or the whale but I'm telling you it doesn't matter. There is an invasion

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An order has come down for

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Invanticide and killing everybody

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How old are you people? These people are 50 grow the fuck like Adams is a hundred percent older than Alex Jesus

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All right, this is sad. It's none. This is pathetic. It's

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Desperate I'm bummed. Yeah, no shit bum. No shit. You know why cuz they're fucking britches shit

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That's true such a bubber their scams have been so successful

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Oh, cuz if you hear fucking idiots if you heard this like some YouTube channel that has like ten viewers about

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You win some you lose some whatever. Oh, Dan, we're gonna be alright. So about three hours into the show

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Alien baiting into the show Alex admits that Rogan is not coming on the show, right and that it's satire

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I'm gonna host some of the next hour when I will interview Joe Rogan

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Satire included look for that for the next hour. Let's go ahead

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Said I was coming on but I wasn't it wasn't true told satire buddy

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By the way brought to you by Jack Dorsey's that's not satire. That's lying. That's just lying

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That's not satire. That's part of the song right here crank it up

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I

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Anyway

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Alex is going to do this bit about Rogan and it's satire. We now know it's satire. It's not really not no

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I really don't think he understands what satire is that I requires a point it requires a

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There are there are certain threat thresholds you need to meet a concept

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Just doing something that's not real isn't satire right like when it's called lying

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sure

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Right now and I should say like that clip that clip we heard right there said about our three of the show

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He had been saying that Rogan is gonna come on. Yeah for a bit of the show

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Teasing and and sort of implying that he's not but also saying Rogan is gonna be on yeah

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That's just a lie. No, but that's what you do. That's or or a hoax

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I would even accept hoax if he said like wood wink

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We're going to do a bit about Rogan or something like that at the end of the show. Yeah, that's not teasing something inappropriately

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He's hoping that some people think that Rogan is actually going to be on in order to boost his ratings because he knows that

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Rogan is a bigger draw right his own show, right?

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Cuz he's a liar right and so he can get more eyes more ears on the show

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Hopefully to listen to the ads and tell the payoff comes that he's not going to be there and by that point

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They've heard him yell about aliens, which is think something that may be rogue

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Yeah, maybe you know, he doesn't do that sort of shit often that project came a lot bullshit. We just heard that's true

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Maybe he entices some of Rogan's listeners with that space talk

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Maybe maybe he teases them with that carrot that he doesn't usually dangle out right because he knows it's fucking bullshit

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It's actually Neil deGrasse Tyson we have on

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What if hmm that would be a brutal brutal exchange?

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So anyway, there's a lot of satire going on

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But one thing that's not satire is that Alex any of what's going on?

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Well, certainly but that Alex is claiming that last night when this episode is happening that Joe called him

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Joe this is not satire. Joe didn't call me last night a couple times. I

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had the phone off and

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Got the messages in the morning

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And I don't think there's anything for me to talk about

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You know Joe's like I apologize to you yesterday

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If I hurt your feelings or didn't have you on but you're in a bad place and you're mentally ill I don't

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Boy, that sounds right

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That seems like the last message from someone who's trying. Yep

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Really just just feels like that's a friendship breakup right there. That's like hey, man

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I care about you and I love you and I know we're not seems like way more than Alex deserves. We're considering the circumstances

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Yeah, like when this like when that message

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Was sent out it was after Alex was on air talking about I'm going to

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politically put him up by his heels and slit his throat like a pig like the idea of like I

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Apologized for the times that I made fun of you if that hurt you. Yeah, cuz he did on his show

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He's like I make fun of it because he's funny, you know

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Yeah, yeah personally it was a performer. We're both in business the show business, right?

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right like that sort of thing he he did try and make that clear and

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like to hear these human elements of it and Alex responding like with just

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Stonewalled like fuck you. Yeah, this is turned into an episode of intervention. It's brutal. This is really bottle

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Yeah, it's it sucks. It sucks

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Hey Alex way to tear your life apart around your eyes good for you

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And that's the other thing is like this is one of the only people who would have gone to bat for you

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Oh first has been for a fucking long time now

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Whatever reason you have to do this Alex whether it's your desperation for ratings whether it's Owen Benjamin's bad

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Advice or your own mental illness sure

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Yeah, or your desire to lash out at Jack because he was on Rogan's podcast, right?

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Whatever the case is, this is the worst thing you could possibly do like this guy cared about you

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Mm-hmm for no reason you didn't deserve that

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You didn't keep up that relationship over the years clearly and he went to bat for you consistently

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Now he was dumb to do that, but he did

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He did

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He was wrong a lot of the time. But also he was right some of the time he called him out about his Bourdain nonsense

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When he learned about the Sandy Hook lie that Alex was telling he pointed that out

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But he still even when he criticized he cared he cared about Alex

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Because he'd known him for years and thought he knew the heart of the man and it turns out

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Rogan didn't know the heart of the man no clue in this next clip

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Alex is pissed off because Joe Rogan isn't even on his goddamn level

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You understand now Sammy. I really don't Joe Rogan is so far above his level right now. It's insane, bro

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bro

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back when Alex was

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Like doing documentaries bad millions of views

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Everyone loved him at that point. He was doing fear factor making people eat balls and stuff like that

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That is pretty funny though. Yeah, and now this is gonna try and like sort of mix those two ideas up. I

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produced loose change

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That before they took the view counter down had one hundred and eighty seven million views on Google video

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Gotta we gotta stop that for a second. He produced loose change final cut

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There were multiple versions of loose change before Alex even got involved really

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Yeah, those I did not know that I didn't either until like months and months ago

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I I always thought because Alex presented is like I was behind that I produced it

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Oh Dylan Avery and Jason bermis was involved through throughout a lot of it

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Uh-huh Alex only got involved at final cut which was like the fifth version of it. I did not know that

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Yeah, so he's he got who's a late adopter of loose change even as an embarrassing documentary about 9-eleven

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Wow, yeah, so I like that. Yeah, not great

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187 million views Joe

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Back when you were eating donkey testicles on fear factor

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And I made all these other films hundreds of millions of years billions and billions of years there were

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I don't

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Please Joe I think Joe's like we may have you on and you're good and sit down and you're good

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Oh, let me sit in do I get a treat?

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Dude you weren't on my radar when you pulled all this you went

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Tracking radar enemy assessed targeting operations enemy propaganda vehicle

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destroy the extreme prejudice

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Like you just literally just got the program like it's like

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destroy

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headquarters destroy enemy key enemy maximum

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Commitment prime target attack

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Because you see it's not just that you're on the higher echelon evil. You're almost there, but you are a good pickets

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You're cleared to fire Joe

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What that means is you're dead in my sight son

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So this isn't about men acting tough to man and me me scaring you and those of you need to know as a sneaky snake

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Sneaky snake sneaky snake what I'm gonna do show. I

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Joked around earlier. I said Joe Rogan is going to be on the show today. You lied. You didn't joke and then

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He'll spin and say

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Said I'd be on I wasn't the lie, but you won't show the clip

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It was a lie cuz that's what

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sneaky snakes do

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So if you're a TV viewer ladies and gentlemen Joe Rogan is now in studio with us

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So it's all like this dumb

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Like that's sad. I'm sad. Yeah, we added me. No no that is sad

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No, no totally weird and totally that is weird and sad on some level. I think I'm really

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Insisting we do this episode because on some level. This is the acro cats of Alex

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Like it kind of feels the same way I didn't know I could be this disappointed exactly

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Fuck damn it. We're in bad hands

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I don't know how to tell you this

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There there is a payoff to this episode

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Like we've we can cut through bullshit. There isn't a Rogan coming or anything

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No, of course not, but Alex does interview fake Joe Rogan

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right and

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The this is what I'm talking about is it him who this payoff is as bad as the astro cats

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Claiming that they have a cat band uh-huh because like the this is two days of

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Preparation that Alex has at his disposal he decided on the fifth that fucking Rogan is dead

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I am going to destroy him

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He hasn't brought up any real substantial information or documents or proof of any of the claims that he's making about right

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We're a second day on the sixth. He's like Rogan is going to be on

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At the top of the next hour next hour comes. He's gonna be on later

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He keeps pushing it back and we get now to the beginning of the fourth hour

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So it's the fourth hour. He's still on yeah, okay? Yeah, he's

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Wild he's pushing back the the host on the fourth hour. Yeah to get in what he needs to get in

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And I thought I thought for sure it was gonna be a fucking recorded piece

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I thought for sure he had sat down

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between the fifth and sixth and

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recorded

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Some sort of dumb thing where it's like hi. I'm Alex Jones a dough. Are you cool?

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Nah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah audio of Joe and splice it in

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It would take you and your interns 20 minutes. We wouldn't take any effort at all

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I've done it with Alex in the past. Yeah, they would take nothing. This is what he did and

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It sucks so if you're a TV viewer ladies and gentlemen Joe Rogan is now in studio with us

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He's not and let's do a document cam shot closer here, please tire. He's gonna be interviewed

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So it's like really not hey George Soros was on 60 minutes and said he supported the Nazis

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No, he didn't George Soros cut Hitler's head off

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I mean, this is this is what it is. This is a drunk if you paid Joe enough money

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I hope you're there cash square and Jack Dorsey, which is all confirmed

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It's all of the news now the insider trading investigation is going on

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If you pay him not like, you know, if you like like like like you put coins into the snake then the snake doesn't everyone

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Oh, thanks Alex. If you put coins into the snake. I'm a sneaky snake

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So the younger two of you are this is a not really Joe Rogan. This is a young

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Settle be the headline tonight like Alex Jones claimed Joe Rogan was on there won't be anyone was on Jones engage an incredible fake news

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It's not that it's fake news. This is sad. I kind of like it's a sad publicity stunt that leads to a

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embarrassing

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bit new donor level

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I kind of actually really like that. That's a drop of him being like

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That is a children's book level

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like the definition of an uninspired Rogan impression that doesn't sound anything like

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I know that I listen

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time got

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Trussell sounding like a hippie weirdo right Rogan sounding like he needs a glass of water. It's always sounds like a guy

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It was just in a desert

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I

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Talk, I have never listened to Joe Rogan's podcast. I find a number of episodes fun most of them

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I you know, I think if you if you listen to someone with Duncan Trussell, you'd enjoy those

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Okay, and then there are there are a ton of everybody enjoys Duncan Trussell talking

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There's a ton of episodes that you would enjoy. That's the problem with Rogan

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No, I believe it. There's a ton of episodes where it cuz when Rogan's in good company, he's not a shithead

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Yeah

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When he's talking to shitheads

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He falls for what shitheads say right people with ill will are able to trick him into

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Thinking that what they're saying means something right because he doesn't have an editorial process to his podcast

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He assumes that everybody has goodwill when they're talking to him and when he has liars in to talk to him, it's

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unchallenged

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Unquestioned things like it's just a problem

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I assume there's a certain lack of guile to him as well where if he's talking to you and you're saying things

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He wants to believe that you know what you're talking about. Yeah, and maybe it's too much trust

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I mean if you're if you're really good friends with Alex for a long time

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You have a certain lack of guile to you

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That's the own or or a lot of guile or you've overblown what your friendship actually was

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Yeah, like cuz there's I mean, what do you think their friendship actually was?

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Like Rogan's lived in LA for years. Yes has lived in Austin for years

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How many times they fuck you fucking think they actually talked every time that Rogan comes through Austin to tour?

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Right, which is once a year at best at best. Yeah

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Alex never leaves Austin except for the times. He does publicity stunts in DC or

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Very specific publicity stunts in Seattle Robert that sort of thing

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So he's never coming to LA to meet up with Rogan have dinner. They're not good friends

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Yeah, they have a friendship that's based on

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the time

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That they've been friends. They've been friends for 20 years. So they've been friends for 20 years

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It's not like they've actually been good good friends for those 20 years, right?

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That's not to say any like any of this isn't sincere in like I don't I can't possibly pretend to understand

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What the two of them actually have done or right know each other behind the scenes, but it strikes me as like

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Rogan's being an adult about this and Alex isn't and yep

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They they had an expectation of like what the relationship was

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Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Alex is being a sneaky snake

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Because he needs ratings and he knows the joke and help him

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Now you should know one thing and that is that Alex Jones is a man who cannot be bought

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You think I want to be part of your system?

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When I want to burn you down triple s and your boss has it figured that out like Alex Jones is not for sale

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Just it's it's it's already sold out. I signed on to the big

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Right. Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm signed on to that. I'm just lucky

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I mean, I'm I'm brushed up against people like you so much. I can't believe I'm dirty rags

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I can't believe God even exists. I'm just lucky. I mean, I'm

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Brushed up against people like you so much. I can't believe I'm dirty rags. I can't believe God even accepts me

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We have specials on goals right now

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Let me just tell you that and I'm counting on it every moment that God says you attack these people

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And you take it to them all the way. Maybe I let you be with us. I'm like, yes, sir

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What kind of God take full control of me and God goes I don't do that

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You're gonna have to do this. I'm just like, okay

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So you're all trying to take DMT and get in contact with little floating retard demons

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From the pit of hell and I just want you to know Joe that there's a whole

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Nother dimension and then on from that and you're just not making the cut Joe. I

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Mean, do you really think in higher dimensions you see Joe Rogan walking around?

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Sure

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You know, maybe he's got platform shoes that go to the next dimension like elevators

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Okay, I mean when you're walking around heaven on a big command base and you're like, oh my god

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I wish I know this like yeah, huh feel we're gonna talk coming in

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Wait, why did you when you give the next level and you're like, oh my god, I know it was

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Yeah, wait, what?

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What?

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Wait, why so apparently has a command base?

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Apparently it's a spaceship where there's battles going on. That doesn't seem like heaven to me

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that seems like

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terrifying I

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Really think he thinks higher dimensions means like up it does seem that way seems like he's like it's all vertical

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He thinks it seems like he's got a very two dimensional view of higher dimensions if you will

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Yeah, do you think you see Joe Rogan and?

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In the higher dimension if he's wearing platform shoes, is that good? Is that bad?

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I also think where do you buy these shoes that allow you to get to the next dimension from the sneaky snake store?

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Yeah, it seems like a real upgrade. It seems like something you buy in a video game

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He's got the jumping boots from Super Mario he's like I can't be bought man. I've already been bought by God that sort of shit like

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Is God into MLMs? Is God into scams?

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I think so

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I think his God is because his God apparently lives on a fucking spaceship or whatever that is so crazy to me

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This is creepy. Yeah. Anyway, we have one more clip and when you were talking about in the middle that clip you were like

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This is all that you

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Give me your money. Yeah

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This is where it really comes down to

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Alex

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Is probably feeling that he's gonna go out of business and on the end of the sixth

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We get sort of the prestige we get the reveal of like why he keeps talking shit on

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On Rogan. Yeah, because he needs these people to come in and keep watering the coffers and what-have-you because this

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Next clip is the reality that he lives in. This is the reality

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And I can tell you right now

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that

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We didn't expand the shows last year like I intended

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We didn't launch all the new stuff

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And here I'll just tell Roger in front of God and country

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I already told Paul this two days ago Paul and Roger Stone are on the chopping block

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There's the money's out there money's not coming in to pay some of our employees

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And you know, I thought about this a lot. It'll give the enemy a lot of excitement in like oh, we're yeah

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No crap, you're getting to us

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My god, you already took most of our bank accounts away. We can't advertise online. All we've got the listeners

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People say well, we don't want to bet on a loser

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Well, then you just bet on yourself being a loser because info wars is a standard in the fight

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it's seen as a symbol a signet a logo a a a

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archetype he needs Lionel's the source be bro, yeah and

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And the soul, you know, it's out of me has been in the fight

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24 years on air

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and the sixth side of me is just like

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The responsibility of like I get up earlier in the morning easier than I ever did

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And your kid you can't get out of bed now. It's like I just get up. There's a mission

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I'll be laying in bed with God. There's been feels incredibly well

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I gotta fight every year around my back and and so all I'm telling listeners is in me. You've got a

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a

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AI attack robot made of flesh and blood that is completely committed to fighting the globalist

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I need fuel and

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The spectrum of media and systems if you don't put fuel in the jet tank

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I can't drop come on land that word for land that money bomb. I

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Mean I'll be stuck on the tarmac fantasizing about rubbing bombs till the day I die

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But I want to drop weapons information weapons not violent weapons. I

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Want to my lawyers to tell you that engage and engage and engage until the cows come home, but I need

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We already have great products you need we already have brain force already have

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Turbo force the new product wolf

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50% off

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Yeah, I mean that's what it comes down to all this is like

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The this is pageantry

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But it is gross because it's so effective and it is it's a good strategy

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Like what he's doing is a really good strategy of like trying to attack Rogan and make it look like hey

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We're gonna have a war with each other. The only thing that's going to

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Subvert that possibility is I hope Rogan doesn't respond

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I hope that he responds to it the way you were saying he hears that and like that's crazy. That's

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Clearly an attempt. Yeah

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No, this one's too obvious buddy too much and that everyone sort of dies down on it

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like in terms of I've seen so many goddamn posts on Twitter and Facebook and people messaging me about it and stuff like that, but

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Like I want to tell them all like cool it cool

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I wish I wish there was a better way to say this than like get your instincts in order

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I'm like get your instincts in order because you need to understand how these people who have ill will operate

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This is a classic troll operation done

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Large scale. Yeah, and it's what is so appealing about it is how interesting that is

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It's so interesting the idea that Alex Jones is

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He's declaring war on Joe Rogan. The idea is

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Alex's listeners are

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have been aware or have been made aware of

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Joe's bullshit. Mm-hmm. They listen to Alex's show they hear him go. Oh shit. I'm gonna start a war

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So then they listen to the next episode of Rogan's podcast and they're like

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How is Joe gonna respond to this and then because they're listeners of Joe Rogan's podcast are like wait

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This is two episodes of him bitch talking under this and so then they go and listen to the Alex's show

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That's the whole fucking goal here. And Alex is willing to destroy what is probably a meaningless friendship

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Anyways, well to one side at least. Yeah, it seems like it's meaningful to Joe in some level

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But it means nothing to Alex. It means nothing down. He already said like in the first episode on the fifth

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I don't like you. Yep. It's a I feel guilty that I ever liked you

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Yeah, that sort of thing is like fucking Wow

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So he's just gonna try and keep needling Joe until Joe responds. Yeah, that's the main goal here

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So the presentation of this the idea of like creating this war you're right

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It's the idea that people will go bounce back and forth like yeah see the response see the response. But what?

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The the benefit of it is the bounce back that comes to what Alex's response is going to be

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So he knows that people will probably go listen to Rogan's show

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And so he doesn't care about like driving traffic to them right if the two of them are in a hot feud

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Doesn't matter if they both get over using wrestling terms. Yeah, like they get over in the process

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I'm still fucking over I might have lost the feud or whatever, but I still get over right in the process

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It's pathetic, but I just pray I pray I don't pray I don't give a shit

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You don't pray but I I would hope that Rogan are no better than to engage much further. I will say this

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And I'm to pray it's time to pray look

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That's the canary in the coal mine, it's time to pray it's time to pray I

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Want to say at the end of this? I don't really know how much value this holds

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I don't know if this was a great episode, but it was the episode I needed to do

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Yeah coming back from a vacation

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Like really getting back into the like jumping back into Alex stuff. Mm-hmm. I

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thought that this was more important to talk about than the

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State of the Union stuff because a lot of that is just what you exactly what you'd expect. Yeah, and so this is I

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Have to drive this message home very strongly

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Don't fall for tricks. This is tricks. This is all tricks. This is nonsense

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You want to say it's trolling, but it's really not

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Because it's satire

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And you know what satire starts the next

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Just still don't understand what that you really don't I really want to I want to find out the etymology of that bullshit

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But I would love it. It's probably from another

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Fucking novel. Yeah

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Yeah, sure. It's actually from Moby Dick. No, it's I I think it's from call me Ishmael with an eye. It's from

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some Dickens

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Some dick and shit

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The official editorial position of knowledge right? It's probably from some dick and shit. That's how you know, I'm done with a riff

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It's from some dick

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Dork

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Um, so anyway, I don't know my whole position on this is stop talking about this

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Yeah, that's that's what I would say. We'll be back next week. You know, you shouldn't we have talking about we have some very strong

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Episodes coming up next week that we've had in the works and don't have the burden of my vacation

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Haunting them. Yeah, and I appreciate everyone enjoying this

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I'm sure and listen to this episode

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But we'll be back next week with back to back to regular back to regular knowledge fight

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but

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Full strength and and

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I keep I keep wanting to spoil things. I know you can't do any of it, but we have a website

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We do have a website which I'll spoil this

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There's a lot of information on there. If you would go to the things to enjoy section of the website

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Yeah, the little drop-down menu. We have a wiki in there. Oh shit bunch of information about Alex Jones and his friends

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I'm so proud of you

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Because you've never plugged to the wiki before I've recently learned it might be

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We do have a website there is a fantastic wiki put together by Dan after working for a ridiculous length issue

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And you can also go to we also have many other websites. Apparently you can go to fill your hand calm

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Oh, it's Jones show dot us. Oh, yeah. There's a third one. There's an info Wars with it like in its end

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For and the wars with a Z man. Yeah, no, you think it's nfo wars

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Dot-com. Yeah, I think there was another one. I saw this awesome. Yeah

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One doing that is incredible. I'd like you're amazing

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It's not we also have a Twitter page that's true

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It's an ad knowledge. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. There's a Facebook group called go home again

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Which is awesome

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And I was gone for a long time and you know, not a long time

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But a couple days and I didn't check in on the site. Yeah and check in on the Facebook at all

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and then I came back and

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Everything was fine

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I won't behave themselves for the most part, which is nice. It's weird for an internet community

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You know like a lot of people are shitheads and they end up destroying everything. Yeah. No, if you're if you've joined our group

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make sure that you only tell good people because so far we're fucking killing it with good people and

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One shithead and we're gonna start going ham. Yeah. Yeah, or also on iTunes and please leave a review

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Subscribe all that good stuff, but I'll tell you what you need to remember. What do you need to remember?

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I'll tell you Jordan one Jordan. Do you have something to remember? I will tell you this. I

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And you know what

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All right, I just want to say

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We've already finished the show. So I just want to talk about this. Did you hear about Bezos having a dick pic out there?

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Oh, oh, yeah, of course about that. Uh good for him. Yeah

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I'll tell you one dick

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That has technically probably never killed a guy. Okay, and that's Jeff Bezos's dick. I

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Bet he hasn't murdered anybody. I bet his dick hasn't also I bet well his policies have led to and his business is probably

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100 percent led to death. Oh, no, no 100 percent. I'm speaking. No, no, I'm speaking specifically just the dick

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One dick has not killed a guy don't do this. I will tell you one dick who has killed a guy

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It wasn't Alex's dick, but the oh, so you're not understanding how a double entendre works

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I understand you understand. So in one case, I'm speaking male. I'm speaking specifically of the dick

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all right, but in the other case, I'm speaking of the

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a

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Let's call it synecdoche of the dick representing the man. Mm-hmm and that dick

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Representing the man

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Has probably technically killed a guy and that's Alex Jones

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you