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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Chardon.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,
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drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Hey indeed we are, Dan.
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What up?
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Dan!
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Hey.
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What's the most work you ever had to do to get a bottle of wine?
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Hmm, one time I found a bunch of grapes.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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I bought a vineyard.
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I don't know, what?
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Okay, every time I've bought, I've gone to the store to buy a bottle of wine.
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What the fuck?
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What kind of story do you expect there to be in this question?
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Maybe what I should more say, what's the furthest you've gone to get alcohol?
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What is like, when have you been in a situation?
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There have been hundreds of times when I've like walked hours, and then,
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but it's only because I never found it.
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Especially around the area we are, in Uptown, in Chicago,
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there's so many places that close super early,
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but you have this idea that if you just go five more blocks, you'll find some place.
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Oh, it's gonna be somewhere.
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And I've done that a number of times in the past few years,
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just walking around for like an hour and a half.
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I gotta give up.
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Do you not have any, do you not have any like a high school story?
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No, no, like a high school story?
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Where it's like you had to...
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I had a big beard in high school, so like I had no trouble really.
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I found booze pretty easily when I, once I started drinking.
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Yeah.
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So I had a beard, I would just go and people would rarely ever pardon me.
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That's fair, that's fair.
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So that, that never was too big of an issue.
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And then I started hanging out at this gutter punk bar,
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and they just didn't give a shit either.
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They all assumed I was of age.
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And I worked at a gas station when I worked there, they all assumed I was 21.
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So they just sold me booze at the gas station I worked at.
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All right.
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So yeah, booze was never really a problem.
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You had a cheat code.
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Your beard is a cheat code to age.
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Yeah.
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Since you were nine, you've been 21.
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Yeah, kind of.
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I mean, I didn't start drinking until, I don't know, 17 or so.
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Really?
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Maybe 16, 17.
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Yeah.
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So that's, that's not too far off.
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No, no.
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But I didn't come in, I didn't come in hot.
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Right.
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It took me a little while to get to the point where I'm like, oh, I got my booze legs.
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I could sort of sort it out.
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I jumped in full force.
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Like the first time I drank it was because one of my friends,
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and this is the length that we had to go to booze.
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See, this is why you asked me the question.
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No, no, no.
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I asked you a question because there's a gift situation.
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I had to go a long way to find a specific bottle of wine for somebody for a gift.
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Oh, I see.
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But this is the way that my childhood, as far as buying booze wine,
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one of my friends stole a bottle of Jack,
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full on fifth from the rec center in our town.
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Why did the rec center have Jack Daniels?
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Isn't there so many questions that need to be answered?
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Certainly.
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That's the first of them.
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How did he know?
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Where did he go?
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How did he steal it in the first place?
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I guess if it's like in the filing cabinet or something like that,
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and the employees nip into it or something, he gives a shit.
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But he didn't work there.
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Right.
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Someone had to have snitched on the bottle.
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Something like that.
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All right.
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And so we just essentially drank the whole bottle.
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My first time drinking, we drank an entire bottle of whiskey together.
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My first time drinking in earnest was at a park.
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Of course, everybody's usually when you're that age, you go to a park.
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Mine was an attic, but okay.
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I was hanging out with my friend John and Aaron,
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a couple of dudes I knew from my K-Life group.
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K-Life small group.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Nothing says Jesus more than drinking in a park.
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Right, right.
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We were sort of more rebellious end of our small group in K-Life.
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Yeah.
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And Aaron's parents had a liquor cabinet and they had...
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What did we take?
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We took a bottle of wine, a bottle of red wine, and a bottle of peppermint schnapps.
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And we went to the park and we were drinking those.
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And because we were so young and dumb,
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we decided to mix them together.
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No!
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And so we ended up...
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Yeah.
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We were like halfway done with them.
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We mixed them together and we had wine and peppermint schnapps.
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It was disgusting.
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That's disgusting.
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To make matters worse, it was freezing out.
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I feel like that would open a portal into hell.
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Just nobody's ever done that before.
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It's crazy that I drank again after that because it was a fucking awful time
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in the middle of a cold park with wine and schnapps.
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Jesus.
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Did you get to the end of that story?
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Yeah, that's the end of that story.
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Oh, you just found a bottle of booze at the rec center.
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This story is...
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He didn't find it.
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He stole it.
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He like ocean's a leavened it as he told it.
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I see, I see.
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This story is about how hard it was to get, not the actual drinking.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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God, I hate you.
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Fine.
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I love you.
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You know what I love and don't hate?
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There you go.
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Listeners and our donors.
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Nice.
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Take a quick moment here to give a little shout out
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to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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First of them...
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Uh, boy, this one is tough to pronounce, but I'm going to say it's Quizzix.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Quizzix.
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I like Quizzix.
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Yeah, I like quizzes.
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I like the word quick because it's in Nesquik.
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How much further are we going to go?
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No further.
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Are we going to make fun of my stories now?
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Yep.
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Next, I'd like to say thank you to Ozma.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much, Ozma.
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Thank you very much, Ozma.
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And Paul, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Paul.
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Thank you very much, Paul.
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Lastly, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on a little bit of an elevated level,
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and we appreciate that oh so very much.
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So, April, you are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much, April.
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Thank you very much, April.
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If you'd like to support the show, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,
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clicking that support the show button.
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We would appreciate it.
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Indeed, you can't.
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Now, Jordan, before we get into today's business, I think it is important for us to take a little
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second to give a special message out there to a listener who's out there in his car.
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He's out there driving around probably this morning from what I hear.
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This guy's celebrating a birthday.
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Hey, hold on.
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Is he driving a snowplow?
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I feel like it's important for him to be driving a snowplow.
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Saving lives.
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What's the furthest you've ever gone to get into a snowplow?
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Six miles.
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I don't need to give details.
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We'd like to go a little bit out of our way to send a special thank you message out there
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to Walt.
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Thank you so much for listening to the show.
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Happy birthday to you.
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Lee sent us a message and we all wish you.
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What are you snitching on Lee?
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I feel like that's public information.
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You can't be snitching on Lee.
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No, no, no, no.
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The message is coming from us and them.
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It needs to be more like we have a weird psychic connection to Walt.
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We've always known Walt's birthday before Walt ever even listened to the fucking show.
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We always knew Walt's birthday.
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There we go.
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That's a good angle.
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I'm going to resist taking that angle and just say, uh, I mean, Jordan, the only thing
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we can do is sing happy birthday.
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Okay, no.
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Hold on.
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One second.
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Let's hit a C.
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Let's harmonize.
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I'm almost positive there are so many other things we can do that sing happy birthday.
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Harmonize with me.
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I'm not harmonizing with you because that is not a C.
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Happy birthday.
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No, this is worse.
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It's not in the public domain.
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I can't sing it.
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Anyway, happy birthday, Walt.
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Hope you have a great one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Happy birthday.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's great.
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So now Jordan, let's get into today's business.
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Um, wacky Wednesday is upon us and, uh, we might need to change the name of wacky Wednesday,
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uh, from wacky Wednesday to maybe just wild Wednesday or weird Wednesday or something
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like that.
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Because sometimes it's not all that wacky.
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Are we, are we married to the alliteration?
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Could we just call it out of the ordinary Wednesday?
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That's a little bit clunky.
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Is that a little clunky?
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Doesn't roll off the tongue.
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All right.
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Harmonize with me.
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That's a good C.
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That is not a C.
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You don't know shit.
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I was almost in the Honolulu boys' choir.
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My mom is a music teacher.
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My little sister is a music teacher.
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I have been involved in many musical pursuits, including.
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That's right.
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Musical theater.
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Cool.
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The greatest of art forms.
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I was in a musical in high school called We Has Jazz.
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That wasn't in high school.
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That was in junior high, middle school.
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That was three years ago in community theater.
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It was a middle school production.
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It also was three years ago.
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Don't want to talk about it.
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So I wandered into a middle school.
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I've been walking a long time trying to find booze.
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Yup.
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Just turned out to be an audition and who knew I got it.
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We should just call this Riff Heavy Wednesday apparently.
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Look, the thing is Wednesday is going to serve as a sort of additional episode.
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We'll obviously still be doing a lot of stuff about Project Camelot.
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Obviously going to dip back in eventually to Reverend Manning, Coach Dave, Jim Baker.
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I'll certainly keep my eye on him for times we can talk about him.
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And we've gotten a lot of great suggestions from people about stuff that might fit into that fold.
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And I'm keeping my eyes open, looking for possibilities for that.
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But also, like I said, I think it is also a perfect place for us to fulfill time travel requests.
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Absolutely.
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So today we are going to be doing a time travel request
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and honoring the wish of one George Soros Jr.
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Why are you pointing at me?
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Because, if you're a Doctor Who fan, that means today is a timey-wimey Wednesday.
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I like it.
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Thank you very much.
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Fine, that'll be whenever we do time travel.
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When we do a time travel Wednesday.
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Yeah, for sure.
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That works.
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It retains the alliteration.
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Everything is good.
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So George Soros Jr., who I have no idea who that actually is.
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It's absolutely not Alexander Soros or anyone related to Soros.
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Are you sure?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
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Hey, I'm telling you the Kennedys hid one of their kids in an asylum.
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Right, I got an update on that. It is true and it's very sad.
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Oh, it is true?
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It is very sad.
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Oh, I thought it was a joke.
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Nope.
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No.
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We laughed about that and I got a message about it and I felt very bad.
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No, that can't be real.
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I like to learn.
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Oh no, now I feel awful.
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Yeah, so George Soros Jr. got in touch with me and wanted to know about what Alex Jones talked
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about when the Ebola outbreak happened in 2014.
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Okay, I was going to say which?
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In 1976.
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No, I don't know why. I was like, which?
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That's, you are, you're in a mood right now.
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It's fun. It's a fun mood.
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It's a riffy, riffy kind of day.
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Yeah, I like the idea of unnecessary response questions.
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The Ebola outbreak.
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Oh, which?
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So many to choose from.
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So in 2014, there was a bit of an Ebola outbreak that centered in West Africa.
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It was centered largely and began in Guinea and then eventually spread into Sierra Leone
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and Liberia, where it was the worst.
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And Liberia was particularly hit hard by this.
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Right.
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It ended up getting taken care of and then getting worse.
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Or not getting worse.
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Maybe it got worse.
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I'm not entirely sure how you judge that.
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But Sierra Leone and Liberia were declared free of Ebola and then more cases popped up.
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And it ended up going on until 2016.
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Like 2016 is when all of it ended in earnest.
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Right.
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And that period of time was very heavy in the propaganda community.
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The people made a lot of mileage out of the idea that Ebola was on the rise and all that stuff.
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And they had two years to fucking make pay out of it.
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But even in 2014 particularly, it was pretty serious.
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And so in September 2014 is when things got to be like it's getting outside of Africa.
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And there was a case in the United States.
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The first case was in Dallas, actually.
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And it was announced on September 30th, 2014.
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Yeah.
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So because George Soros Jr. gave me such vague...
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I don't mean this judgmentally, but gave me a vague idea of where to go to.
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I was like, okay, the first case is in Texas.
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Alex has got to freak out about this.
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Right in his back fucking yard.
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Yeah.
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He's in Austin.
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This is in Dallas.
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But it's still got to be like, okay.
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So that was announced on the 30th.
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I'm going to October 1st.
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Why not?
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That's got to be a fucking freak out show.
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It's like the beginning of outbreak.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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As is almost always the case.
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No mention of it.
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No.
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This is a weird trend that I've noticed from these time travel requests that people make.
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Alex is almost never in studio when big news breaks.
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Whenever the Pope resigned, he was on vacation and David Knight was hosting.
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That's right.
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When the Ebola outbreak happened and there was a case in Texas,
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he's on vacation and Paul Joseph Watson's hosting.
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Cool.
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And so we're not going to do that.
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Hell no.
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So I found the first episode where Alex is back from vacation after there was a case
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in the United States in Texas of someone with Ebola.
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And that happens to be October 5th, 2014.
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And that is the episode we'll be going over today.
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Okay.
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We'll be getting into the specifics of the actual outbreak and some of that stuff along the way.
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But it is actually interesting.
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A lot of this, a lot of Alex's angle on it is kind of predictable.
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But then there's a lot to learn along the way too.
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Yeah.
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I feel like this is also going to be one of our time travel episode trends where it's like,
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whatever it was that you were asking for that got us to the time travel episode,
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we wind up talking about everything but that.
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I don't think so in this case.
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But that was, I mean, that was the case with the Malaysian plane.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In this instance, I think there's, it's a lot about the actual Ebola stuff.
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Oh, no shit.
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He's lying about a lot of it.
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No, of course.
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Well, hold on.
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Yeah.
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It is still Alex.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But it is interesting.
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He's actually on topic.
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And part of that might be because he's recharged from vacation.
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And then another piece of it might.
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Or he has Ebola.
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Could be.
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Another part of it might be that this is also a Sunday show.
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October 5th is a Sunday show.
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So he has less time to fill.
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I think he feels less pressured.
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And at this period in his career, that was still much more of a lucrative thing for him.
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It was still, I believe the syndication of it was higher.
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Right.
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Than his Genesis communications.
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So when we started this episode today, Jordan, I'll be honest with you.
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I had fully intended to not tell you why I chose October 5th, 2014.
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Instead of giving me a detailed reasoning for choosing it.
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I was going to try and be like, hey, here's the date.
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Do you know why it is?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then I could.
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I would pick up on that one.
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And then I could have played the first clip where he says like, we're going to talk about Ebola.
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And you'd be like, God damn it.
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That could have happened in another universe.
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That is how this episode started.
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But in this universe, it starts with us playing an out of context drop from today's show.
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It's so sick.
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How men will corner you in an elevator and go, what do you think about Dallas Cowboys?
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I'm sorry.
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I don't follow that.
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I'm not manly.
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I'm not manly like you.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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It's so crazy.
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It's so crazy to me.
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He does these things with like masculinity.
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He has it from both sides.
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So like he wants all of it.
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He wants every part of the Buffalo of making you feel things about masculinity.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He wants to scream about it being under attack, but he also wants to attack the
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masculinity of people who like football because they're too masculine.
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Right.
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It's very confusing.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, it seems very unmasculine as masculine being in his conception.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I have no baggage in terms of that.
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I don't care to be like, you like football.
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That's too much.
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I got nothing.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, let's get into this episode.
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Here's how the episode starts with Alex introducing the topic of Ebola.
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Hard to believe it's already the 5th day of October, 2014.
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Why?
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I'm your host, Alex Jones.
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We're live.
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We're broadcasting worldwide simulcasting video at Infowars.com forward slash show.
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I want to open the phones up today and talk to Texans but Americans and other
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people around the world for that matter.
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About the handling of Ebola 2014.
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I'll say that he does not open up the phones for another 48 minutes after this.
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So he didn't want to do it that badly.
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Who won that election?
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Was it Ebola or was it McCain in 2014?
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I don't remember.
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McCain won the battle.
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That was his Senate.
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Ebola won the war.
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Okay, okay.
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All right.
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Little known fact that brain cancer was caused by Ebola.
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Really?
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That's what I've heard.
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I don't know.
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I read it on fucking World News Daily, WorldNetDaily.
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I don't know.
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It might as well be true.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has got a lot of feelings about this Ebola situation.
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And you can obviously predict where he's going to go with this.
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I'm certain you can.
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I don't want to put you on the spot.
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I'm not trying to pimp you into this, but I really think you can guess.
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All right.
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Here is my theory.
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This is going to be good.
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All right.
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Now.
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It's going to be good if you're right.
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It's going to be great if you're wrong.
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There's something I know.
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So this is prior to our 2015 investigation.
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But I'm going to say that a lot of the lessons that I learned in 2015 should still be applicable
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in 2014.
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It's not that far away.
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Yeah, I think so.
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And in October, that was close to when we started our 2015 investigation.
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So he's closer to early 2015 investigation, Alex, than other versions of Alex that we've
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seen in the past.
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So if you want to use that as a metric, go for it.
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All right.
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So here's the facts.
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Just the facts, man.
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Just the facts, man.
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We on dragnet?
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Yes, we are on dragnet.
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All right.
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Come on.
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I am a 1950s comedy writer that is repurposing.
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Come on.
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All right.
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I am 100% certain that this is Obama's fault.
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You bet.
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I am 100% certain that there's going to be a lot of racism involved because it's in Africa.
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While at the same time, he's going to pretend that he is a crusader for African people in
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order to make sure that everybody knows that he still cares about black people.
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I think the racism is fairly veiled, but it's certainly there.
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I assume it's part of the globalist larger plan.
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They're doing a soft launch of genetic diseases and bioweapons in Africa because they know
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you won't care about them.
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But the one time that a guy lands in Dallas, that's how we know that they're beginning
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the full assault, Dan.
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Jordan, you've just got a B on your final exam this semester.
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I'll take a B.
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There are some elements in there that you fucking nailed, and then there's some things
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you couldn't possibly expect that are also part of his narrative like this.
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And they've got MSNBC headlines.
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How the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse.
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I've seen headlines about Perry better do a good job with Ebola in Texas or he'll be
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in political trouble.
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How is it Rick Perry's job to control the airplanes flying in?
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That's a federal.
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Oh, that's what the federal government does.
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We found we finally found out what the federal government does.
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Federal government is for shuts down rolling when planes go to Texas.
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I guess.
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How is it Rick Perry's fault if a plane lands in Texas?
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I mean, it is like the FAA, right?
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I mean, the federal aviation, I guess.
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But like, Alex, you don't give anybody a pass on anything.
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You'd be like, fuck it.
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It's the Fed's fault if people wanted to build a fucking road.
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He lost his mind.
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But hey, look, the federal government can fly planes wherever they want.
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I don't understand.
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I don't understand the skies.
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He hates Rick Perry.
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And to his credit, he's not he's not letting Rick Perry off the hook here, but he is saying
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that, like, what he needs to do is get in Obama's fucking face about this.
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Sure.
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Rick Perry isn't being aggressive enough to Obama about it.
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That's the deficiency of Obama or I'm sorry, of Rick Perry, because the flights.
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That's a federal.
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And by the way, where that clip ended, where he says that's a federal.
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That's where the sentence.
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That's where the sentence.
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Yeah.
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But also, we see this introduction of this news story that the NRA is making the Ebola
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crisis worse.
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Alex is fucking not happy about that.
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That's a headline, baby.
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That both sounds like it will be backed up by some statistics.
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And if you continue to think about it, you're like, I don't want to throw them on this one.
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They can't.
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The NRA can't possibly be making Ebola worse.
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The Ebola crisis.
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Well, they can probably make it sound worse.
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I don't think they're actively going out and giving people who wouldn't otherwise get Ebola
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Ebola.
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We will find out exactly what this article is about as soon as Alex actually talks about
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it.
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But for now, he's just complaining about a headline.
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Here we go.
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Because he hasn't read the article.
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Spoiler alert.
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When it gets to the article, he still hasn't read it.
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But he also has to complain about PC culture and how that's involved in this whole Ebola
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crisis.
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Don't understand that, but fine.
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And political correctness has paralyzed this country.
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That's what it's designed to do.
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Like Ebola.
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Last few years, we see articles at colleges across the United States and England where
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they say don't have a Halloween party and don't dress up like a Geisha girl or an Eskimo
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or a cowboy or a Native American or a pirate because it's hurtful.
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I was reading an email a friend sent me from their big yoga studio that they attend where
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they were going to have a India style party.
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What?
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Bollywood, do you mean?
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And they said, well, we had complaints that would be racist if we dressed up like people
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from India.
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No, if you put a lot of makeup on your face to make you look like you're Indian.
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Yeah, shut it down.
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Wearing a 3 is fine.
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We can't even shut flights down from countries where they're estimating 1.4 to 5 million
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people will get Ebola by the time it runs its course.
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They are trying to get out in mass.
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So this idea that he's perpetuating there is this idea that PC culture is stopping us
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from talking about this as it really is.
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In the same way, they won't let me dress up like a Geisha girl or something.
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Yes, don't use someone's ethnicity as a costume.
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That is very insensitive.
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That is a good rule of thumb.
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Alex, I don't know about this yoga studio that we're talking about because it sounds
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a lot like that time that you wore a Nazi hat at a party.
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Hey, no, the things there's a boatman's cap that those things that the yoga studio people
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are talking about how we can't have a fun India party.
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That sounds exactly like the side characters in the Nazi hat Halloween story where they're
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like, I can't even wear a costume anymore.
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Everyone's offended.
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Oh, it's terrible.
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It almost sounds like a made up character in a story you're trying to make a point with.
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Come on, Alex, wouldn't you be so offended if a black person dressed up as chicken fingers
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and fries and stole your culture?
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He's saying that like millions of people are going to get Ebola.
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They're predicting.
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And also, he eventually does end up saying that hundreds of thousands of people have
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it.
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He's going to say that.
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I want to tell you that when it was all over in 2016, June 2016, Guinea was officially
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declared Ebola free 28,600 people total total got Ebola between Guinea, Liberia, Sierra
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Leone, all other countries in Mali, Nigeria, Italy, the United Kingdom.
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There was a case there, a couple of people in Spain, Senegal and the US.
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Holy shit.
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Can we just say real quick?
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That's amazing.
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If you are against vaccines, go fucking fuck yourself.
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But even then, if you are against vaccines, our system of rooting out disease, if that's
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the total number of people got it now, that is fucking incredible.
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Especially over a two year plus time frame.
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Yeah, everyone should be like, holy shit, great job, guys.
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It could have been way worse.
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It could have been immensely worse.
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And there were eleven thousand three hundred and twenty five deaths out of those twenty
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eight thousand six hundred people, which is, you know, it's at a forty percent.
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Yeah, it's a forty percent death rate, which for Ebola isn't Ebola is like super.
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I don't I don't know.
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It depends on the strain and it depends on where the outbreak happens.
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Yeah, it does, of course, like there are times there have been outbreaks in history where
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it's like north of 90 percent fatality.
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But in this case, I don't remember.
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I was looking at the statistics in terms of like a country by country breakdown of this
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twenty fourteen and some countries there was a zero percent fatality rate.
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America is twenty five percent.
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One guy died out of four that ended up getting it.
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That's not even really a percentage.
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That's it is, though.
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No, no, no.
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It matters.
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But as far as like it's to represent irrelevant in that exactly.
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Yeah, that's what I mean.
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But I don't think the numbers were even super.
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Yeah, I mean, 40 is right.
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I mean, 40 is around the total.
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So you could assume that just extrapolate from there.
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Sure.
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It is lower than some outbreaks in the past.
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For sure.
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That being said, you know.
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I don't know what we were I don't know the point we're trying to make, but yeah, it could
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have been way worse.
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It could have been.
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Well, the point I was trying to make is that's amazing.
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And anybody like Alex bitching about it and saying that, oh, this is the worst thing that
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could ever happen should also at the end of twenty sixteen say.
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Got to give it up to him.
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That's fucking amazing.
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No, totally great work.
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We can't.
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Good job.
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I agree with that.
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But we also can't expect Alex in twenty fourteen to know what the end result will be in twenty
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sixteen.
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But him saying that there are like hundreds of thousands of people who have Ebola in twenty
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fourteen, when at the end of it, it's not even it's just north of a quarter of one hundred
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thousand total people who ended up catching it at the end of it means that he's just blowing
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this way out of proportion.
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Absolutely.
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And so one of the things is he thinks that the United States in particular and some other
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countries, but he doesn't really name any other countries other than the United States
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aren't doing what they need to do to make sure that this doesn't become a problem.
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The Arab countries, the African countries.
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The UK.
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France.
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All in the last month and a half, banned flights.
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Out of Sierra Leone, Liberia and other areas and Rick Perry that have epidemic levels,
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hundreds of thousands of Ebola spreading.
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U.N. models are one point four to five million people getting it, millions dying by the end
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of the year.
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I don't know that's accurate.
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That's what they're saying.
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That's not what they're saying.
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There are there were like all these sites that were giving these terrible worst case
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scenario.
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I think Alex is pulling it from there.
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So he's he's saying that all of these other countries have instituted these travel bans
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on people from these affected countries and the United States won't do that.
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And that's fucked up.
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In the aftermath of an outbreak, it makes total sense to think that the solution is
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closing down borders and restricting travel to countries where that particular medical
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issue exists.
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But when you take a closer look at history, all you see is evidence that these travel
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bans don't work, make things worse and are a stupid misallocation of resources.
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That doesn't sound right.
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Travel bans always work.
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For instance, in 1987, Ronald Reagan put in place a ban on people with HIV or AIDS coming
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to America.
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This did nothing to restrict the spread of the disease, the condition, etc.
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The condition, excuse me.
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And in 1989, they did a review of the ban and found it to be, quote, ineffective, impractical,
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costly, harmful and maybe discriminatory.
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The study found that travelers played little to no role in the spread, but efforts toward
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prevention made an actual difference.
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Beyond that, they found that screening travelers for HIV and AIDS was all good and well, but
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the process was intrinsically flawed and would inevitably lead to negative folks being labeled
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as positive and vice versa.
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That it's completely pointless and this ineffective ban was in place until Obama got in office.
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I'm really glad that we learned our lesson, realized that travel bans were ineffective
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and never again tried to institute them.
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No, no, certainly not.
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I'm glad we learned our lesson.
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Isn't it crazy that in 87 Reagan put that into place and we don't even really even remember
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that it stayed in place because no one was paying attention or whatever until after 2008?
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Yeah, no, it's it's crazy.
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It's crazy because it stayed in place so long.
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It checks out.
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Absolutely not crazy.
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It's crazy from our perspective, but from the America as a whole, we're like, yeah,
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no, that sounds right.
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It checks out in terms of like what you'd expect, kind of.
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But it also is like, wow, I didn't think we were that dumb.
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It wasn't until Obama's administration that anybody was like, oh, we should care about
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humans.
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Maybe not.
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OK, maybe the government specifically like HIV positive, even all the way through, like
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with Clinton's comments about HIV positive people.
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And you don't expect W to do anything positive ever.
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No.
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So, yeah, social evolution.
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And then also those those years when there was some good progress being made being under
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W, like the good social progress and stuff, you're never going to see that mirrored up
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top.
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No.
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So, yeah, I guess it does kind of make sense.
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Anyway, it's a bummer.
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Also, super bummer.
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After there were some cases of H1N1 in Mexico in 2009, many countries cut off flights to
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and from the country.
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There was a 40 percent decrease in Mexican travel volume.
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A study after the fact found that, quote, that only led to an average delay in arrival of
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the infection in other countries, i.e. the first imported case, of less than three days.
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And they found, quote, no containment was achieved by such restrictions.
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So there's a consistent pattern that shows that all you're doing is putting things off
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by a couple days in service of what?
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Now, I think and I'm sure that this did not affect tourist income or lives of other people.
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It's almost like it didn't do any of the positive things that you hoped it would.
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Right.
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And it only made destitute so many places that relied on that income.
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We're going to get to some of those like issues that I actually think are kind of minimal
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in terms of like when you're talking about people dying of like a hemorrhagic fever.
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Yeah.
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I don't particularly care too much about like talking about finances.
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I mean, I get it.
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It is a variable in that that belongs in the calculus, but it seems crass to think it matters
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more than people's lives.
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I'm not saying no, no, no.
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I totally get you.
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I totally get you.
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And I agree with you.
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And I shouldn't be defensive about it.
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And you're absolutely right.
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So in October 2014, study of the actual travel bans put in place in response to the outbreak
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of Ebola found that, quote, the travel bans are only delaying the further international
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spread of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa for a limited time at the risk of compromise
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and connectivity to the region, mobilization of resources to the affected area and sustained
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response operations, all actions of critical value to the immediate local control of the
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Ebola and for preventing its further geographical spread.
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So all you do is end up sacrificing the idea of people being mobile to some extent for
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the sake of some imaginary lockdown you want to do.
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So you wind up spending a shit ton of money for a lockdown that doesn't make any sense
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while not allocating any resources to the prevention and the treatment that would help
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a lot of people.
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That's a big part of it.
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There you go.
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Shutting down travel to and from affected regions feels like the right thing to do,
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but it's not.
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Not only does it not work historically, but it actually hurts things for two important
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interconnected reasons.
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The first is that it's not a reality that you're ever going to be able to shut down
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all travel across borders.
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Borders are huge.
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And people who really want to badly enough, they want to leave, they'll find a patch of
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land they can slip across a border.
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It's going to happen.
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Like you're never going to be able to completely insulate something.
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This leads to the second problem.
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If you shut down travel for people from an affected region, you create an incentive for
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these people to lie about where they're traveling from, which in essence turns them
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from a variable you could monitor into one that's now completely unaccounted for.
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Studies have been done that show that this is the case.
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And for Alex to not know, this means that he's not operating from a position of wanting
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what's best for the world.
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He's just looking for any excuse you can find to let Africa burn.
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The idea is when you do these these sorts of things, you like like I said there, you
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incentivize lying.
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It is someone is from, let's say, Guinea, and they make it across a couple of borders
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or whatever to escape.
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Yeah, sure.
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Certainly.
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Their intentions may be good, but they may also have it.
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And yeah, they might be a carrier and they don't know it.
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They're not showing they're not exhibiting symptoms at the time.
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And so they could slip into another country, lie about where they're from, be able to travel
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because that country where they are coming from isn't included in this ban.
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And what you do then is you're not able to I know it sounds ugly in terms of like flag
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them.
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But when you have an outbreak going on, it is in everyone's best interest to be like,
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if you are traveling from that country, we need to know we don't want to hurt you.
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No, we need to be able to keep an eye just in case.
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Maybe we want to test you for Ebola.
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Right.
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Which is not a terrible thing.
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We're not trying to kill you.
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We're not trying to destroy you or quarantine you.
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We just want to know which you can do if you allow the travel.
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But if you shut everything down, close all borders, what you do is incentivize breaking
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of the quarantine.
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It's almost like prohibition doesn't work.
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Yeah, and quarantines on a large level don't work.
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Also, historically, it's been shown over and over and over again.
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If you want to quarantine something very small, like a person in a hospital or something like
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that, yeah, it does work very effectively.
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It also relies heavily on sanitation like that is an incredibly important piece of a
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quarantine.
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Yeah.
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But if you want vigilance, if you want.
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Yeah.
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And how how willing are you to kill someone who's going to leave?
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Like, do you want to turn this into a fascist quarantine or whatever?
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Like, that is the other piece of it.
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Yeah.
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Like, if you do want to do that, then, OK, your conception is X area is shut down because
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there's Ebola in there.
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If someone tries to leave, do you murder them?
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Do you kill them?
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Because if they get out, someone else might get Ebola.
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Yeah.
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Is that the kind of world or is that the situation you want?
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If it is, we have a different conversation to have.
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Right.
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But my big point is that Alex doesn't understand that travel bans don't really work.
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And the best example of this is the UK shut down travel to these countries and they still
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had a case of Ebola in the UK.
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Of course.
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Spain had you know, there's a bunch of countries that ended up having people.
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It's not it's not effective and it's Alex's only point.
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It's all he's got.
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But he also has a point about something else that's completely unrelated that I find very
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weird.
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If you came here 100 years ago to Ellis Island, you got screened for TV.
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About two thirds of the people got turned back at Ellis Island.
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Now, it's just come on.
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Come on, come on, come on.
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We're back to Ted Nugent.
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Get on in here.
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Yeah, you had a just the right response to that.
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Is that true?
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Alex has brass balls talking positively about Ellis Island with his firmly anti-immigration
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positions that he espouses all the time.
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We all know the reason why he speaks about Ellis Island as a positive thing.
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It's because of the immigrants coming in are the ones he thinks are good ones.
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Two thirds of the immigrants were not turned away at Ellis Island.
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This is a profoundly stupid, ahistorical thing for Alex to claim.
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Think about it.
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These people came over here on ocean liners and arrived at Ellis Island in the tens of
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thousands.
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Thousands a day was not an uncommon thing during that time period.
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If two thirds of them were turned away, where would they fucking go?
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Are you going to incarcerate all those people?
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How much do you think that would cost?
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Are you going to pay for ships to take them back to wherever they came from?
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How much do you think that would cost?
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And how much time would you waste crossing the sea?
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I'll tell you what, you should shut down the government to make sure that it doesn't happen.
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Certainly.
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In reality, only about 10% of the people who arrived at Ellis Island were subjected to
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heightened health screenings, and 90% of those people were passed through with no problems.
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According to Barry Monero, Ellis Island historian and librarian at the Ellis Island Museum,
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the people in charge were largely just concerned with rooting out communists, anarchists, and
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possible labor agitators.
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That was a very high priority in their screening interviews when people came in to Ellis Island.
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Barry missed his real calling, because if his name is Barry Monero, he should have been
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the greatest jazz artist of his age.
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Lounge act.
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Come on.
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Doing some good banter.
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Hell yeah.
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He should play the saxophone and be incredibly sexy.
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Ladies, I'm Barry Monero.
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Oh yeah.
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So most immigrants who came through Ellis Island had no documentation, no visas, no
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passports, nothing, and they were processed and through.
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They got through Ellis Island generally, not all the time, but generally within three to
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five hours.
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Some were detained while they were being processed if something came up in their history or if
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there had been somebody who snitched on them before they came, and there had to be something
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sorted out or if the authorities knew who they were because they were criminals or something
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like that.
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Then the three to five hour window, that's out the window.
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But if people got, but if people got detained there while they're being processed, they
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got a dormitory and they were provided food.
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It was like, God damn it.
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Now, obviously, why were we doing so good back then about that?
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Obviously it wasn't perfect and like everyone wasn't treated all that well.
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But of course, there is still like, if you look back on it, it's like certainly better
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than what's going on now.
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I know with and with all the atrocities they were committing at the same time, somehow
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they were like, hey, you know what?
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This is actually a good idea.
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Let's do good here.
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Bananas.
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You know how many immigrants were turned away and rejected at Ellis Island?
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I know that Alex says that it's 66 percent.
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I'm going to go with 23,000.
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The actual number is 2 percent.
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It's quote Vincent Canato, associate professor of history at the University of Massachusetts,
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Boston and author of American Passage, The History of Ellis Island, quote, The greatest
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contradiction or irony here is they have a massive inspection process and you have this
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restrictionist sentiment and all these people you want to keep out of the country, at the
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end of the day, less than 2 percent are rejected.
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There's a very small number of people who got rejected, even with medical issues being
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considered.
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One of the things is there were, you know, like this one year, there's like a thousand
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people who got rejected.
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Generally, it wasn't for hepatitis or whatever Alex is saying.
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There was this eye condition that was very close to chlamydia.
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It was very contagious.
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That was one of the easiest detectable things that a lot of people got taken out for that.
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Hey, hey, your eyes fucked up.
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Yeah, I probably wouldn't have made it.
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I got a cross eye.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you got a bad look about you.
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So you got a thousand, you know, you got a thousand, one hundred people being rejected
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in one year for that.
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But because of the mass in one year.
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But because but that means that there were like three hundred thousand people that came
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through that year.
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There there were over a million, at least one or two of the years that I was looking
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at the statistics for.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's nuts.
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And, you know, obviously Ellis Island isn't a perfect story of great success.
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But Alex, the story that he's trying to perpetuate this idea of like, they did all they did,
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threw away everybody because they only accepted the best.
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Yeah, whatever.
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He's hearkening back to a past that doesn't exist.
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The statistics are way off.
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Yeah.
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And he's only doing it in service of trying to.
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I think what it is, if I had to guess, I think he doesn't know anything.
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Number one.
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But then the impetus behind it, the emotional reason for it is justifying why those white
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immigrants that came in are good, not based on their skin.
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But I think that's bananas.
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I think some of that does come down to the logistics, though, like you can't incarcerate
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those people like that would cost so much and it would be pointless because even if
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you incarcerate them, eventually, what do you have to send it back?
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So what do you send them back immediately?
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What are you going to do?
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It's an easy trip.
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It'll lead to pay for it?
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Mexico is going to build the wall.
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There's no easy answer to it.
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And I think that the people in charge recognize that and erred on the side of being like,
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all right, let's make sure there's no like legit dangers.
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Right.
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That'll probably only take us a couple hours per person.
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You know, like we have it.
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We have the ability to do this.
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All right.
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So this guy has a lot of nails coming out of him.
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And we have not made Hellraiser yet.
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So I can't I can't process a Xenobite.
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So we're going to get we're going to go.
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We're going to give him we're going to give him ten hours.
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Let's just hold him in.
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Let's just hold him for a bit.
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I found that to be really fascinating.
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I didn't know that the rejection rate was that low.
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I really find that fascinating, too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for telling me.
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Yeah.
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Me scoffing at Alex's bullshit actually led to me learning something.
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And I know that's cool as fuck.
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Thanks, George Soros Jr.
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Help me learn a little.
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So we get back to the show here.
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Alex's show.
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And Alex has some other he has some ideas of how this case was handled.
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The case of the gentleman who came to Dallas.
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That was my favorite Hardy Boys book.
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The case of how the gentleman came to Dallas.
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Yeah.
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I also could have gone with Encyclopedia Brown, but I went with hard.
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Or Hercule Poirot.
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Oh, no, sir.
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Miss Marple.
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Listen, we could name detectives all day.
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We really could.
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We actually probably could.
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I got a few.
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I got a Derringer in my boot of a detective.
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So look, yeah, this guy came to Dallas.
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He was looking for a soul steal.
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No, no, no.
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You blame me for ripping.
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And now you're going to pull this shit out of here.
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No.
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Yeah, that's on me.
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So look, my friend comes to I don't know how to start this.
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I'm going to let this go.
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I want to see how this goes.
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All right.
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So Alex has some ideas about the handling of the circumstances of the Ebola case in
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Dallas, and I'll say that if you believe him, this sounds suspicious as fuck.
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He's also wrong about everything.
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Our hospitals are so screwed up that when he went in a week before vomiting and sick,
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they gave him antibiotics and said he had a virus.
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Antibiotics don't affect viruses.
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They didn't even clean for a week the ambulance for five days.
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The ambulance he'd been in.
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That doesn't sound right.
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They're not cleaning his apartment.
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They're not doing anything, folks.
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They're not quarantining his family or people around him and knew him because they obviously
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wanted to spread.
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So that first thing that pops out to me, I think actually was the first thing that you
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responded to the idea.
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They didn't clean the ambulance because they would they would clean any ambulance.
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Yeah, any any end of day routine shift change.
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Clean the fucking ambulance.
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I clean my workstation and that's yeah.
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So that was the first place that I went to when I was looking into this.
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When I heard that, I'm like, I can't I can't imagine that's true.
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Absolutely.
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So I looked into it.
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Alex is trying as hard as he can to create the image of the powers that be are actively
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trying to precipitate an outbreak of Ebola here in the United States.
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And it seems like a huge part of his argument is the ambulance hasn't been cleaned a week
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later.
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Alex is reporting this on October 5th when this episode we're listening to comes from
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because he was on vacation when the news broke about the Dallas case on September 30th, the
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night of September 30th.
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I will now read to you from an article in CBS Dallas Fort Worth from September 30th.
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When we found out the ambulance in question had Ebola in it, we actually lit it on fire
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and then threw the ashes into a frozen lake in order to.
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And that's why we haven't cleaned it because it is a burning rubble that is underneath
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a lake.
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Well, it's taken us a week because we've had to create a perpetually frozen and burning
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lake.
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And that took some advances in technology.
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We didn't even know tires could do that.
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Quote, Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings confirmed that an EMS crew and ambulance that transported
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a patient now confirmed to have the Ebola virus in Dallas has been isolated.
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Quote, We have quarantined both them and the unit itself to make sure that nothing was
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that nothing was there that can spread.
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And we're going about our protocol about how to do that, says the mayor.
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So it's literally not far off from what we just said.
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I mean, it's not far off from exactly what you would expect people to do.
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So immediately the people involved in the ambulance were quarantined.
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But Alex might be right on a technicality.
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What if they quarantined it, but they didn't clean it?
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Unfortunately, later in the article, quote, Dallas Fire and Rescue officials said the
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ambulance has been decontaminated.
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Alex is just making shit up to make it look like the people running point on this weren't
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doing their jobs.
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There are plenty of other valid criticisms to make about how the whole thing was handled.
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And we'll get into some of them, but this isn't one of them.
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This is complete nonsense.
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Alex is probably reading this on some dumb blog or something like that.
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It's absolutely not true.
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Yeah, there's that article.
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There's more than just that article, but that's just local Dallas reporting from the mayor
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reporting.
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Yep, we did do that.
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We took care of that.
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That is from the 30th.
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He's on air on October 5th saying they never did it.
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Man, even if they didn't know that the guy had Ebola, they still would have cleaned the
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fucking or at least disinfect.
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They would have sprayed something in there.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Unless they were trying to get it spread.
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Ooh.
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But also, not that I am taking the mayor at his word in Dallas.
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Can't trust the mayor of Dallas.
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The article in question.
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I think it's Jerry Jones.
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No, that's the Cowboys coach.
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He's the owner.
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Oh, excuse me.
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Listen, the article in question also had a picture of the ambulance in quarantine.
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So I did also see it in the article.
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It was just underneath a mosquito net.
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It's not that I'm just trusting blindly the mayor of Dallas over Alex Jones.
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Hey, you can put police tape around any old ambulance and call it the real one.
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Sure.
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So anyway, that's a lot of nonsense.
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But also in that article, it is important.
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I'm sorry, not in that article.
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In that clip that Alex was just talking, he said that they gave him antibiotics when he
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came in to cure a virus.
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And that's interesting.
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How, what does bi...
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So when they say biotics, would you say they are talking more about bacteria?
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Yes.
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Now, if I...
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Alex is correct.
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He's correct.
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Viruses are not affected by antibiotics.
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But I'm going to go with, if I remember biology correctly, viruses cannot be killed by antibiotics.
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No, no, no, no, obviously.
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But Alex is misreporting this too.
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Yeah.
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So on September 25th, Thomas Duncan arrived at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital
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complaining of a fever, abdominal pain, dizziness and nausea.
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He was spiking a fever at its highest at times of 103 degrees.
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Ooh, that's fucked up.
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The staff ran a number of tests on him and couldn't figure out what was wrong.
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They kept him overnight, but they didn't diagnose him with a virus at all.
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But they did give him broad spectrum antibiotics.
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Then it could be some kind of an infection.
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The initial symptoms of Ebola are super common, like nausea, dizziness, abdominal pain and fever.
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Those are things that, like if you're doing a differential diagnosis,
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that goes into so many different possible actual underlying conditions.
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It's not like the first symptom of Ebola is like your left hand turns in the exact opposite
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direction all the time. So you're like, oh, that's Ebola.
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It's not like Ebola is on your forehead or something.
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Exactly, yeah.
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There's no, there's not, especially with the initial presentation of it,
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which is one of the reasons why it's so dangerous.
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Right.
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Is that the initial presentation is so similar to benign conditions.
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You've got the flu.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So it's not crazy to think that they wouldn't immediately jump in their
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brains to the suspicion that he has Ebola.
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That was on September 25th.
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It wasn't an episode of House.
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Love House.
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I know you did.
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On September 28th, he returned to the ER, this time via ambulance, which opened up in quarantine,
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at which point they put the pieces together and deemed him an Ebola risk and contacted the CDC.
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One of the important things to remember is the timeline of events.
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The outbreak in Guinea happened in early 2014, first being declared on March 23rd,
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with the condition spreading to Liberia and Sierra Leone shortly after.
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Liberia would go on to be the hottest zone of events.
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And initially the country was declared Ebola free by May.
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Now it would reappear and it wasn't fully taken care of.
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Again, like I said, until January 2016.
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Yeah.
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But the fact that in May they declared Liberia Ebola free kind of made the crisis seem less
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pressing.
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Yeah.
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So in September, these nurses probably didn't have Ebola first and foremost on their minds.
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You wish they would have, but it also makes some sense why it would have slipped through
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the cracks the first time he shows up at the hospital.
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Of course not.
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However, what happens after that is definitely deserving of some criticism.
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I mentioned there's some criticism.
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OK.
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And here's some of it.
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The nurses union has come out and levied some complaints that protocol wasn't handled as
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well as it could have been, ranging from not immediately isolating Duncan as soon as he
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was suspected of having Ebola, between the time of the test confirmation and the suspicion,
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to not requiring staff to treat him in hazmat suits, but instead just gloves, masks, and
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eye protection.
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Duncan's test for Ebola comes back positive on September 30th and the day before a nurse
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named Nina Pham treated him without any protective gear.
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Oh, no.
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She and Amber Joy Vinson, another nurse who treated Duncan, would end up testing positive
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for Ebola.
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Of course.
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Thankfully, they survived and did not end up spreading it to anybody else.
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Good for them.
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It's a real that right there is a really great place to start your criticism.
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Yeah.
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Of this situation, because there are very valid criticisms about the way that this hospital
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handled everything.
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But the ones that Alex chooses to make are not true.
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Right.
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And also paint the picture that he wants it to be.
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Right.
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If you suspect somebody of having Ebola, you don't let a nurse go in with no protection
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at all.
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Yeah, that's a terrible idea.
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At the very least, at the very least, I can't imagine anybody directed Nina Pham to go in
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there without any protection.
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Totally.
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It wasn't like the attending physician was like, hey, get in there without any protection
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and we'll let you have a good old day.
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Totally.
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Because even if she and she did, but even if she survives, that's a lawsuit.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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Especially since the nurses have a pretty good union.
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Yeah.
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Like that would absolutely be a lawsuit.
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It seems like it seems like some failures institutionally in this particular hospital.
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Right.
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Definitely happened.
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And just failures of oversight and that kind of thing.
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Not any kind of malicious intent.
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Absolutely.
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And a lot of it probably could be easily traced back to the idea that most of these people
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involved probably never imagined a scenario where Ebola was in the United States.
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Who would have Ebola?
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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So I want to say one thing also here that is just to be perfectly fair to Alex.
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Some of this information that I'm talking about does happen after this episode.
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So this is on October 5th, and FAM doesn't end up testing positive for Ebola until, what
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is it, October 12th.
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That's when she tests positive.
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And then the third, Ms. Vincent, isn't until October 15th.
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So he doesn't know any of these things, which are the actual decent criticisms of the hospital
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system and stuff like that.
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But I also stand behind the idea that it would only make his rhetoric worse if he did know
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them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And having the...
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And it's safe to assume he wouldn't give a fuck and it wouldn't change his narrative
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at all.
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No.
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Yeah.
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He wouldn't deal with it in any more realistic way.
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Exactly.
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But I just want to give that caveat that he has no reason to know all that stuff as it's
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in the future, although he does say he's a psychic.
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Once again, inexplicably, we are as fair as humanly possible to this fucking idiot.
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Well, I want our listeners to understand.
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But I want them to understand the timeline of stuff.
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And I don't want to put unnecessary shit in anyone's mind.
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Totally get it.
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So all this is to say that the ambulance was quarantined.
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The people who dealt with him were quarantined and checked and kept track of.
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They didn't say he had a virus, but he was given broad spectrum antibiotics because they
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couldn't figure out what he had.
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And that is kind of a catch all, which is an unfortunate part of our medical system
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that that's how antibiotic resistant things wrap up.
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And we'll deal with that another day.
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If 90% of cases are solved or at least treatable by doing this, your first instinct is going
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to be, let's do the thing that helps nine out of 10 people, not like on the off chance
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it might be Ebola, we're going to do this.
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And it almost never hurts people.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Except for in the long run when the resistance strains pop up.
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Yeah.
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So all this is a bunch of bullshit by and large.
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And so here's Alex's take on the bigger picture.
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I want to make this statement very, very clear.
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They either souped up this Ebola and weaponized it, which we know has been done before.
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That sounds great.
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They've been on Nova, on BBS and allowed it to be released or it's naturally mutated
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to incubate longer and to be more powerful.
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And they're openly opening the door to let it happen.
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Either way, the people running our federal government are complicit in what's already
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happened and what is unfortunately going to unfold now.
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How does MSNBC respond?
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How the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse?
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They're actually blaming gun owners.
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That's like blaming the moon made of cheese.
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I don't understand what that metaphor, that assembly there.
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What would you blame the moon made of cheese?
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I would like to ignore everything else you said because it's just, it's Obama's fault,
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which you predicted at the top of the episode.
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So the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse, is the headline.
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So Alex says that what that means is they're blaming gun owners.
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Not specifically the NRA, they're blaming all gun owners.
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Right, that's the way he's presenting it.
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We'll get to the truth eventually.
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But the way he's presenting it is they're blaming gun owners for making the Ebola crisis
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worse, which is similar to blaming the moon made of cheese.
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I don't, I think he had more to say, but he got cut off by a hard break.
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Or he just, that's him stepping on a rake, man.
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That's him starting a sentence like, fuck, I got nowhere to go.
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I said the moon cheese.
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I don't fucking know.
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So does he mean that it's similar, so blaming the NRA is similar to blaming the moon made
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of cheese as opposed to blaming just the moon for Ebola.
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You're blaming the moon made of cheese for Ebola.
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That's interesting.
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Which is the second level of ridiculousness.
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I would say that it's equally ridiculous to blame the moon or the moon that is made out
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of cheese for Ebola.
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That, I don't think that's what he was saying.
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I think he was trying to make some simile about, I don't fucking know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't understand.
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This is one of these trademark moments of Alex Jones where it's like, I wish I could
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have talked to him during the break.
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Yeah.
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What were you trying to say there?
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Well, because if I ask him now, there's no way he remembers what he intended to say.
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Absolutely.
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I want to know.
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I don't know if he would remember what he intended to say immediately following.
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Probably not.
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Probably not.
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He's got to tell his kids he can't go fishing again.
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But he's blaming the moon made of cheese for it.
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Listen, kids, I know you want to catch some trout, but it's like the moon made of cheese.
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The moon made of cheese kept me away.
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Do you think when he's talking to his kids on the phone, he has hard breaks that he has
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to get to?
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I definitely think that he plays the highwayman.
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Oh, no, that's coming in when he calls them.
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That's the ring back tone.
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The ring back tone?
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Yeah.
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Whenever it's time to get off the phone.
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Whenever it's time to get off the phone with his kids, it's that block rock and beats.
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It's block rock and beats, of course.
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Or that bow bow.
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It's that.
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Sorry, kids, got to go.
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Bow bow.
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So there's a guy, Thomas Frieden, who's the head of the CDC at this point, and he came
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out and made some comments about how we talked about this already a little bit, the idea
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that these bands don't work, that sort of thing.
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So he explains that closing borders isn't really a viable option.
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Alex plays the clip of him saying that, and then I would just describe Alex's response
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as like, this guy's an asshole.
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Let's go to the CDC director saying we can't control the border.
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Yeah, because there is no border.
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We know that as long as the outbreak smolders in Africa, as long as it's in Africa, we're
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potentially at risk because even if we tried to close the border, it wouldn't work.
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People have a right to return.
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People transiting through could come in, and it would backfire because by isolating these
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countries, it'll make it harder to help them.
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It'll spread more there, and we'd be more likely to be exposed here.
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But he had a nice calm NPR voice, very convincing, loving little eyes with his hair all combed.
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Kids, by the way, take your shots.
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We hear it.
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The new world will love you, and all we want is for you to get healthy.
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That's why the cancer rates and everything else are off the charts.
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So just take your shots.
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Get rid of those brain cells.
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Mercury's good for you, the CDC said.
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So remember, they said Mercury's good.
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It's all true.
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They love you.
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I love it.
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I'm sure Moby is thrilled that his music is playing over that message.
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I bet he loves it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So what are you talking about there at the end?
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I'm sorry, you had a thought.
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I'm just like, I know we've been doing this for so long,
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but can he even imagine people at the CDC actually being like,
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we want your kids to be healthy?
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Like with no caveats, with no like, it's literally the job of the CDC to want your kids to be
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healthy.
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And he can't for a second imagine that that is real?
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Like not even for one moment.
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Well, these people work at a center.
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It's all about controlling diseases.
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The Center for Disease Freedom, I believe.
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Well, sovereign diseases deserve to be free.
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Well, of course.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, no, of course not.
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He thinks it's all super evil.
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And what he's talking about there at the end there, that idea of like, they're saying that
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Mercury's good.
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It's the idea, there was a Mercury-based preservative called samarasol that was in vaccines.
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And that was one of the things that was targeted specifically about the idea that it caused
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people to be on the autism spectrum.
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Right, right, right.
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Right, right, right, and it's all ascientific.
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It's all completely refuted by studies.
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As always.
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But that's what he's talking about there.
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That idea of like, all these people love you so much, get rid of those brain cells with
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this Mercury.
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They love giving you Mercury.
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Also, what does he-
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It's not even really the same thing as actual Mercury.
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Right, right, right, right.
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But be that as it may.
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Like, what does he want?
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So, okay, so his criticism is we have an NPR voice on there, which I would like it if my
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CDC head didn't come out and say, ZOMBIES!
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That would be un-, it would not inspire confidence.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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So is that what he wants?
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I guess so, yeah.
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I guess he wants people who have a little bit of a country twang to them or something
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like that.
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Well, now you know these people from these other countries, they're gonna come in here,
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they're gonna give us all this kind of Ebola, and we gotta close the borders for these zombies!
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Whatever doesn't sound like snobby liberals or whatever, that's what he's responding to.
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Measured and reasoned?
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Yeah.
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What radio liberals like to listen to?
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I fucking hate that sound.
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Yeah.
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That speech pattern or whatever.
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Maybe he just hates vocal fry, Dan.
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Could be.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, in this next clip, we just see, like I already told you, 28,600 total cases over
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the entire two-year span of this outbreak.
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Again, amazing.
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It did not get outside of Dallas, at least this instance of it.
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This is just Alex sensationalizing and being incredibly irresponsible to try and create
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the picture that things are way worse than they are.
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That's irresponsible.
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But I wanna talk more about, why is he playing legs so loud?
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Like, that seems a little louder than a lot of his regular, like, coming back from break
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music, and it just lingers.
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Look, dude, anytime anybody plays ZZ Top, I got problems.
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I have got problems.
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That is a bad band.
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Because beard jealousy?
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It's not the beard jealousy so much.
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I don't like the idea of people making beards novelties, certainly.
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I don't like...
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Like, in college...
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This is a civil rights issue.
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In college, I would always get, like, people would...
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Every goddamn year, people would send me these updates about the beard and mustache championships.
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I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
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Oh, to you specifically, because they're like, this would...
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This would interest you, of course, you bearded man.
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Right.
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And so I don't like that.
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I certainly don't like the beards that I'm seeing in ZZ Top, but that's not my primary
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problem.
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My primary problem is their songs are fucking terrible.
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Oh, I realize that, like, I 100% pulled that clip because I think it's irresponsible sensationalism,
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but I also pulled that clip because...
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To be angry at ZZ Top.
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Yeah, I really hate them.
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Yeah, I know you do.
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I also think he played it too loud.
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It really was like most of his music tapers off as soon as he starts talking.
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That was loud as fuck.
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I am endlessly fascinated by where your boundaries are drawn with music.
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So Jordan, you know, I think you've got pretty decent of an idea about what Alex's narrative
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about this whole thing is.
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Like the idea of globalists behind it, obviously he's blaming Obama and the federal government
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and stuff, saying it was an intentional liberty blue.
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But in this next clip, he sort of makes the finer points of it clearer what he thinks
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is going on.
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The globalists want to basically use this crisis to bring in a medical tyranny, a forced
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inoculation program.
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With the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Monsanto created a bola vaccine.
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They're set to roll out.
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Monsanto created a vaccine?
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That's why bare minimum, they've turned off the default.
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It's like not closing a hatch on a submarine when you submerge.
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It's a no brainer.
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We're not pressurizing a jumbo jet.
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He doesn't really make it clear.
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What he's saying there about these, like not closing the hatch and stuff like that is not
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shutting down travel from all of these places.
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I picked that up.
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Yeah.
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The only reason I clarify is not because I didn't think that you or the listeners did.
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It's because when I first listened to it, I felt like he's not being clear at all.
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I gotcha.
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I gotcha.
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A 777 before you take off from Houston International to fly to London, England.
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They're turning off all the defaults because the public-
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777?
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More like 187?
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And yes, they think he's absolutely brain dead.
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I mean, is America done?
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So his take on this whole thing, generally speaking, is the idea that this is a false
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flag-ish.
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Of course.
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Ish.
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Of course.
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Ish.
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It's a soft launch for the global epidemic.
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It's a false flag-ish.
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Yeah.
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Dip toe dip.
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Yeah.
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Kind of thing in case it's not or whatever.
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He can sort of walk it back.
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But the idea is that the globalists are doing this.
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They either have created this or are letting this happen in order to get us all mandatory
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vaccinated in a medical tyranny with this Ebola vaccine that Monsanto and the Bill and
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Melinda Gates Foundation are working together to enforce upon us.
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I don't want to talk about whether or not Monsanto creates vaccines.
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No, no, no, no.
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I don't even want to talk about that.
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Give me any situation where Monsanto and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation teamed up.
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I can't give you one, but I can say that a vaccine for Ebola did not come out of this.
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But in 2016, there have been a couple like as as recently as 2016.
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I'm not sure if there has been progress on this, but a couple of vaccines that had been
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in phase one and phase two had come through phase three and very promising by the FDA.
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I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure.
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I was trying to look into it and I can't fully understand.
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I was reading a bunch of documents and I fucking understand.
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Right.
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But after a bunch of testing, there are a couple of vaccines in 2016 that were shown
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to be pretty effective.
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Yeah.
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In the range of 70 to 100 percent effective at being a vaccine against Ebola.
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Which is a wide range.
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70 to 100 percent is a pretty wide range.
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But it's better than 40 or zero.
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That's pretty good.
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Yeah.
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I from from what I could tell, it didn't seem like it was on the market of current day.
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Yeah.
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But I don't want to stand behind that in case it is.
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But no matter what the case, whether there is one now that is effective and on the market
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and approved and all that stuff.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't really matter because, you know, this entire segment of our history, this entire
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outbreak of Ebola in West Africa didn't end up precipitating that.
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Like it didn't end up leading to a crisis that required mandatory vaccination for Ebola
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and forcing through of this vaccine that the global is just going to use to kill men, I
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guess.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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But so this narrative is is ompus bumpus.
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It's nonsense.
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It is ompus bumpus.
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Thank you.
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I agree.
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So you've probably been sitting there, Jordan.
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You've probably been thinking.
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What have I been thinking, Dan?
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NRA story.
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Tell me what I've been thinking.
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I wonder what that NRA story was all about.
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I would I'm going to go with here's my here's my prediction on what the NRA story is about.
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I want to tell you, before you make this prediction, I'm excited to hear it.
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Yeah.
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But you're going to be wrong.
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OK, I'm going to give I'm going to give this one a go.
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All right.
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So the NRA is making the Ebola crisis work.
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Well, the the Ebola crisis worse.
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I'm going to go with rampant anti vaccination, anti medicine, anti all of that stuff.
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Propaganda instincts.
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It's good instincts.
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But no, there's no way you could predict what this is going to actually be about.
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They have been shooting down bees and bees protect against Ebola.
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I thought the NRA has a pro shoot down bees policy.
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You know, I hate bees much like I hate ZZ Top.
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But we got to get you a 22.
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Oh, got to go out there.
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Start shooting bees.
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Yeah.
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Get a bump stock and go and fucking just take out bees.
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So, Jordan, I would say that you're wrong.
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You have said that so many times.
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You're wrong about this NRA story.
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But like I said at the beginning, there's no way you could predict this.
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It's a really good point.
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And Alex has not read this article.
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This is a psychological tactic called gaslighting, but it's more sophisticated where they just
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scramble everything where no one even knows what's going on.
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It's over the top.
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You don't even know what gaslighting is going to be.
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The NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse by Crystal Ball.
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I want to pause there real quick.
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That is her real name.
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One of the authors of this article.
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Oh, it's a name.
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OK, I swear to God.
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I swear to God with a K immediately was like, OK, we're getting into some psychic shit.
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This is going to get wild.
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That is a real person's name.
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Thank you so much.
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Because it's so hard to destroyed me.
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Yeah.
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And Ann Thompson.
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What do I want to say?
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The NRA is the problem that Americans own guns and don't even give a reason.
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It's just it's bizarre.
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They don't even give a reason.
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It's fucking bizarre.
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Does that sound right?
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I'm going to go with two people together authoring a study.
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Crystal Ball and Emma Thompson are not going to just are not just going to say something
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and then not give a reason.
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Well, you know, MSNBC, it's just basically like some guy's blog.
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They just say shit.
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It's like 9-11 blogger, which Alex seems to 100 percent a reliable source for news.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is peddling this story about how the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse, but
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refuses to even talk about what is in the article, preferring instead to just say things
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like they don't even make a point.
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It's bizarre.
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That's what he just said.
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They don't even make a point.
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If true at is bizarre, it would be bizarre.
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Yeah, it would be bizarre.
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This is a clear instance of either willful deceit because he knows his listeners will
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hear the headline and think it's some kind of dumb liberal bullshit or he hasn't read
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it himself, which I think is probably the case.
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Yeah.
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The reason these writers are suggesting that the NRA is responsible for making the crisis
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worse goes like this.
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Experts and researchers have examined the U.S. infrastructure and found that there is
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little to no reason for people to worry about a breakout of Ebola happening here because
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of containment processes that we have because of sanitation, because of those sorts of things.
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It just is unreal.
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It's unlikely, like even if people do end up showing up here, which did happen, and
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the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
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It didn't end up becoming a pandemic.
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Right, right.
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Because against all odds, we have a solid infrastructure in place in order to combat
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this before it becomes a widespread.
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Which a lot of countries don't, which is why it becomes such a huge problem there.
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Which is also why isolating those countries is the, yes.
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Bingo bongo.
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Yeah.
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So that is what a lot of experts say.
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However, they're having a hard time conveying that message to the public, particularly with
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the backdrop of a media running around being sensational, trying to make people worried
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about an outbreak and how it's imminent.
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Historically, the job of conveying important health information like this and reassuring
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the population that these fears that are being sold on air are unfounded fell to the Surgeon
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General.
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That is one of the main roles of the position of the Surgeon General.
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However, in 2014, when the Ebola crisis was heating up, we didn't have a Surgeon General
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and hadn't for about a year.
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In November 2013, Obama nominated Dr. Vivek Murthy for the post, but his domination had
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been held hostage by the Republican held Senate.
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Because he was anti-gun.
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Yes, I remember that.
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He believed that guns were a public health crisis and thus the NRA lobbied strongly against
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his nomination, receiving even a vote with Rand Paul taking a particularly forefront
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role in making sure his nomination didn't move forward at all.
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I totally remember this.
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In a time of public anxiety about a potential outbreak, we didn't have a top doctor in office.
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And literally the only reason is that he believed that guns led to health problems.
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And the NRA found that position unacceptable.
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The NRA didn't bring Ebola in or anything like that, but no matter how you slice this,
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by depriving the country of a Surgeon General because of their lobbying in Congress through
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the Republican Party, they absolutely made the Ebola crisis worse.
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It led to people being able to spread much more propaganda than they would have otherwise.
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And the article makes perfect sense.
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That makes perfect sense.
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Yes, the argument that the NRA made the Ebola crisis worse.
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I'd never thought about that.
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I'd never heard that article before, but Alex's attack on it made me read it.
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And I say, oh, good call.
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Good call, crystal ball.
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Yep.
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I would never, as you correctly pointed out, I would never have guessed that in retrospect.
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And now that I remember that whole situation, it makes perfect sense.
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Yep.
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Great argument, crystal ball.
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And Anne Thompson, you guys fucking nailed it.
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It's another instance of corporate money having unintended consequences that are almost universally
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negative.
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Come on, Citizens United was great.
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So in this next clip, Alex just talks about how the globalists want this to happen, I
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guess.
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I don't know.
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This is just him being dumb.
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And it just illustrates they can't and they won't protect you.
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And for some reason, they want Ebola to break out in this country.
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And that's why I'm opening the phones up.
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I want to know from you out there in this segment right through into the second hour
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today.
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Why do you think this is happening?
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So that's right.
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He still hasn't opened up the phones.
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No.
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It doesn't matter.
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48 minutes.
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Give or take.
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He doesn't want the audience to actually say anything.
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He wants to give his point.
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And then after he has, he knows the audience will repeat it back to him.
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That's the game.
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Yeah.
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So I just want to give you a little bit of fun trivia about the Ebola outbreak in 2014.
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In October 2014, Alex Jones guest and associate Larry Klayman filed a lawsuit against President
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Obama over, quote, providing material support and aid to international terrorism and facilitating
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terrorism.
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Larry believed that Obama intentionally brought Ebola into the country.
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And his reasoning about this is not good.
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Larry said Obama's reason for bringing Ebola in was that, quote, Obama has favored his
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African brothers over the rest of us by allowing them free entry into this country and, quote,
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relegating whites and others who are not black or Muslim to the back of the bus, which has
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been become an indivious, invidious form of reverse discrimination.
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He also said, quote, as has been true throughout Obama's illegitimate presidency, as all credible
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evidence suggests, he was born in Kenya and is neither a natural born citizen eligible
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to president, nor has been naturalized as a citizen to even have the right to remain
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here.
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We see the deportation petition I had recently filed.
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Regret, regrettably, our Muslim commander in chief has favored his own creed over the
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rest of us.
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I know you're responding poorly to that, Jordan, but don't worry.
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Larry isn't crazy.
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He's very restrained.
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No, he's absolutely fucking insane.
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He's very restrained.
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He's a fucking lunatic.
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What?
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He's very restrained, saying, quote, I do not advocate violence, and I want Obama to
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be taken alive and deported.
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What?
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Taken alive.
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Taken alive.
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That's his quote.
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I don't want this guy to be taken alive.
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How about that?
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He wants to be taken alive and pay for his inadequacies under the rule of law.
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So this lawsuit that Larry Klayman put into court is an embarrassing public spectacle
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of racism, got thrown out of court, and he continued to be a racist embarrassment for
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years to come as a guest on Alex Jones' show, where we found him creating the Dennis Montgomery
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information with Joe Arpaio and the members of the cold case squad in Maricopa County.
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He is one of these weird through lines that nobody knows about, but Larry Klayman was
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a very huge part of this anti-Obama sentiment.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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It's nuts.
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I feel like some of those words in those quotes are things that are like, I mean, I know you
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want to say that.
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Yeah, you're a lawyer.
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How did you not clean that up?
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Yeah, like the idea that he's saying, quote, relegating whites and others who are not black
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and Muslims to the back of the bus.
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Like, I know you think that's a great turn of phrase probably, but like, how do you not
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clean that up?
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So in this next clip, I've been sort of saying, I think I overtly said earlier that Alex is
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saying that this Ebola outbreak is a false flag.
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Yes.
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And I wasn't just talking shit.
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He actually believes that.
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A false flag, a staged event, whether they souped up the Ebola or not.
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So, okay, there you go.
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Alex says this is a false flag.
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Of course it is.
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And that is not surprising.
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But one of the things I always want to clearly delineate and make a point of is the idea
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that whatever Alex says is mirrored by his callers.
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So about a half hour after he says that he gets a caller.
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Monique in Quebec, Canada.
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Thanks for calling.
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Go ahead.
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Hi, Alex.
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Hi.
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Alex, I think this is a false flag and I'm sure of that.
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I tend to believe like Robert David Still when he was on your show on September 18th.
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He said that the next big false flag will be assimilated Ebola attack.
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So she thinks it's a false flag and cool, whatever.
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In that explanation for why she thinks it's a false flag, she's like, Robert David Steel
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was on your show and said so.
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Eagle-eared listeners will remember that Robert David Steel was the guy who was on who said
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that children were being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases.
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And Alex had to disown him.
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The white papers have made it prove.
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Alex had to disown him because of how much embarrassment came to him and everyone was
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like, Alex thinks people are on Mars bases.
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I didn't say that.
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The media lies about me.
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They say that I think the kids are on Mars bases.
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It's because of Robert David Steel, who is being brought up in 2014 as the person who
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predicted the Ebola.
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The whole thing.
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Yeah.
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Now I want to say this.
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I do want to give it to Monique in a very short period of time.
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She made me very interested in her backstory.
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So I'm all in on Monique.
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I want to know what's up with Monique.
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Just because she has an accent.
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She's from Canada.
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And because she thinks it's a false flag.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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She's just got a way about her that makes me want to know how is it that you came back
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to this?
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I want to know the backstory.
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I got to be honest, no matter what research I can do, I don't think I can solve that for
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you.
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Okay.
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But what I need you to do a deep dive into Monique and then of course, Lauren from Ohio.
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So I Google Lauren, Ohio.
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Lauren in Ohio, Canada.
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Monique in Canada.
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Yes.
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I think you, I think you do this.
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I will get back to you on that.
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Okay.
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Take your time.
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But for now, Robert David Steel was on the show on September 18th as she, as Monique
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said there.
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Yes.
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Saying that there will be a false flag using Ebola as the cover or whatever.
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If you remember earlier, I said that it wasn't surprising that doctors and nurses weren't
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thinking too much about Ebola in mid September.
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Monique was.
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But propaganda communities are completely different.
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In the interest of total fairness, I should come clean and say that I got completely swept
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up in this Ebola propaganda.
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Not that Obama was causing it or here to, he's trying to bring it here into the country
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or any of that kind of shit.
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But I really bought into the doom and gloom, worst case scenario, disaster porn type of
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stuff in 2014.
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You did personally.
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I absolutely.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And I can tell you from personal experience, there had been a ton of sustained and long
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running campaigns going to make people scared that it was going airborne.
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Ebola was going to go airborne.
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All it was going to take was a slight tweak of Ebola to make it breathable.
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And then it was going to take America by storm.
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Right, right, right.
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I suspect a lot of these messages were being heavily promoted by people with interest in
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survival food, guns, gold, all the sort of businesses that thrive on the panic of the
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immediate collapse.
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But at the time, it felt like a consistent bombardment of stories about how this was
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just getting worse.
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I trafficked in conspiracy blogs and message boards and stuff like that around 2014.
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Yeah.
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And I was sensible to a point.
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Like, to the point where I wasn't buying into the Rothschilds run the world or anything like
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that.
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But this sort of story did get to me.
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Like, I remember this.
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I was working at a shitty job.
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I had nothing to do.
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I was at this insurance company.
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It'd be like, oh my God, this is fucking terrifying.
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And I rationalized it in my head.
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I was reading these terrible things that I didn't ever find.
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Like, where are they sourcing their information from?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I read a blog and it's about, like, there are factual pieces of it.
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Like, oh my God, it started in Guinea and now it's in Sierra Leone.
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Now it's in Liberia.
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Right.
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It's heating up in Liberia.
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And every, like, these blogs would just have these all caps headlines of like, it's coming,
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it's coming.
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It's a thing that I've never really considered, but it is like, if you're in the stock market
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and if you're an investor and all of a sudden Apple's fucking revenue earnings come out
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and it's higher than expected and you're like, holy shit, I own this amount of stock in Apple,
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that's going to fly up.
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Like for these survivalist guys, anytime this kind of global pandemic narrative comes up,
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they have to be like, holy shit, we're going to make a shit ton of money.
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We better ride this out because it's not real.
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And when Ebola, like, it doesn't pop up that often.
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No.
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But when it does, it's fucking scary as shit because the reality of having Ebola in a circumstance
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where you are in, well, quite frankly, Africa, it's a brutal fucking experience.
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And so it's one of the most terrifying things.
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And then you have the idea of that spreading worldwide and all that.
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It's the perfect thing to make content out of.
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Right.
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And the fact that it's from Africa brings in that so much, so much of that ingrained
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cultural fear where it's like when you talk about, oh, we have bees and then we have Africanized
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bees, we have killer bees.
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They're coming out of this place that's so foreign and so savage that it's so much worse
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than if it was an Ebola outbreak in Texas.
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That works on some levels, but from my perspective, because I lived through this.
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I'm not saying from you's perspective.
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I understand that.
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But from my perspective, it just seemed like this makes sense because I was reading dumb
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resources and I didn't understand that, like, you've got to figure out this blog that you're
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reading, where are they getting their information from, follow the chain of information and
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see if any of this means anything.
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Going to the second page of Google is never going to happen for most people.
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I got deeply caught up in this Ebola paranoia at that point.
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Every time there was a new possible case somewhere, it would be a new blog post.
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It would be new message board threads of all these, like, this, uh, it's coming everywhere.
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All this is to say that there was a massive propaganda and conspiracy world campaign going
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on well before Thomas Duncan ever arrived in the United States.
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What I'm getting at is that it's not meaningful in any way that Robert David Steele came on
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Alex's show and said anything like they're going to use Ebola as a false flag.
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Yeah.
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On September 18th.
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Yeah.
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It was actually a really shrewd choice on his part, I think, based on the facts on the
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ground.
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In August, the World Health Organization declared the continuing epidemic a public health emergency
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of international concern, which is the technical designation on their point, in August.
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So that's a month before Robert David Steele came on Alex's show and said any of those
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sorts of things.
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And when they made that announcement, that came just a little bit after the August 5th
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announcement that there was a confirmed case in Spain, a man who would end up dying a week
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later from the Ebola that he had.
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So you already had someone in a country that was outside of Africa.
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Where the outbreak started.
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But he was an aid worker who had been in Africa.
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Of course.
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And so you have this already is penetrated the other.
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It's outside of Africa.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The spread has begun.
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Everything that Robert David Steele is doing on Alex's show on September 18th doesn't mean
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anything, because a month before this, the World Health Organization has already been
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like, hey, guys, everybody, everybody be careful with this.
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Take this seriously.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And simultaneously there had already been an instance of it outside of Africa.
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It is weird how an organization making a perfectly reasonable response to a massive disease,
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to a really dangerous disease early on, to a dangerous disease that hasn't really spread
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that much early on and saying this is something we need to be aware of.
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It wasn't that early on.
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This is I'm not it was it was made because no one paid attention to it or it had been
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going on in West Africa for a bit by that point.
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But what I mean is going on in so far as to say less than a hundred thousand people.
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Do you know what I mean?
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It always was less than.
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Exactly.
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Instead of waiting until it was literally a global pandemic, they waited until it was
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like this is a known issue.
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Well, we're going to issue a warning early on enough to stop it.
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But because we did it early on enough, people are going to run wild with this shit.
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Well, they have real strict criteria of what what constitutes a crisis that the world needs
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to be worried about.
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Right.
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And so what they did that they did that in August 2014.
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But like in terms of the full story here, the first case, the first patient was in December
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2013.
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But this didn't matter.
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It didn't it didn't take it took a while for it to become like diseases.
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It took three to four months after that for it to become like in West Africa.
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People took took real specific notes in March.
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But the bigger point of this is that Robert David Steele has been a very multifaceted
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player in Alex Jones's propaganda over the years.
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He's a comedian.
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And I don't think that we recognize this at all.
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In 2009, we haven't heard him back in 2009, but we've heard callers mention him.
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Right.
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About how you talked to him on some show a year ago.
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So he existed in 2008 in the Alex Jones's world.
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Alex Jones's world.
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We've yet to see an actual appearance from it.
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We now jump into randomly 2014.
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Robert David Steele is there saying that Ebola is going to be an outbreak that's used as
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a false flag, which I just think is like he's pretty clever.
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It's not I don't think it's evidence in any way that it's a false flag.
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I think he just like he's better than the average bear in terms of like reinventing
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his no looking at the looking at the actual world that exists and figuring out the best
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way to lie about it.
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OK.
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I think he's pretty good at that.
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I don't think he's bad.
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I mean, his longevity is evidence enough that he he's got some kind of angle that works.
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I mean, it lasted until like, what, late 2016 when the Mars colony thing happened.
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Yeah, that was that was an overreach on his part.
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Yeah, that was like that was like a heat check.
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That was like Steph Curry making two threes in a row and then being like, how about 45
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feet out?
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I don't know.
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I think Robert David Steele is a fucking interesting person that might.
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I might need to look a ton more into him.
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He's also a big Bitcoin booster.
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I kind of think he's more of a survivor than anything else.
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I see I see him as being like, I'm going to I'm going to ride these winds and then I'm
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going to change these winds when I need to change these winds.
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I suspect you're wrong, but we'll see.
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All right.
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We will see.
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We'll see.
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I might look into him a lot more.
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But Alex, in this next clip, has some thoughts about how the globalists have changed Ebola.
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That's a shock.
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Ebola used to gestate or incubate it for three or four days.
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Now it's 21, 22 days.
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So you can spread it.
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It's spreading much worse.
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It's it is a real pandemic now.
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This narrative was flying all over the place in in the blogs and stuff like that.
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But this is all bullshit.
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Alex is pretending the incubation period for Ebola has changed in some way, like it used
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to be two days and now it's 20.
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That's all nonsense.
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The incubation period has always been a range.
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It's historically been two to 21 days, with most cases being within the eight to 10 day
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range when symptoms manifest.
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Yeah.
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It's a matter of statistical analysis.
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It's it's it's it's standard deviations like the like one standard deviation is eight to
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10 days.
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Two is two to 21 or whatever.
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Right.
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However, however, it actually works out right.
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And then Nate Silver would have a position on it.
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Generally speaking, after three weeks, you're at the point where it's like if you haven't
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shown the symptoms, you probably don't have it right.
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It would be like point three percent chance you do.
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So Alex is Alex is pretending that it's always been two to three days now because and it's
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always been known that it was because the globalist changed it.
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Now it's 20.
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They've somehow made the gestation longer because that serves the purpose of his arguments
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about they want people to fly into the country.
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Right.
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Because they're not accepting symptoms.
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Exactly.
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And then they get into the country because there's a longer incubation period.
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They're not showing symptoms.
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But I've been in the country two weeks.
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It's going to take another week before I start really noticing that I have a totally cool.
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And in that period of time, I've already infected 50 people out of nowhere.
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Everyone's dead.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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That sort of thing.
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Zombies again.
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He wants the CDC had to come out and be like zombies.
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The crazy fucking thing about this is were anyone to actually want to do this, it would
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be so easy.
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Like any of the people that he imagines that have the control that he thinks.
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Yeah.
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Are there there's so many diseases that would be worse and easier transmitted than Ebola
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that they could just fucking do this.
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Yeah.
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There could be like a smallpox outbreak somewhere.
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Like it would be so easy.
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It does kind of feel like one of the problems nonsense.
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One of the problems with the way that we control the problem is it's one of the scares.
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One of the scary parts of the way that we control diseases is that it does kind of feel
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like at any point in time, some random scientists working in the CDC could just like sneak away
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a vial of smallpox and then like smash it on the ground.
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That's exactly what happened with Larry.
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I like 100 million people die.
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That's what happened with anthrax.
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The anthrax mailer Larry Ivan.
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Right, exactly.
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The case after 9-11 that Alex also lies about.
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Yeah, of course.
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Go read that that report if you want to actually know what happened there.
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That guy was nuts and an abuser.
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Oh yeah.
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Boy, he was a manipulative fucking asshole.
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When we talked about that guy, I was bummed.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So we got one more clip here.
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Alex gets to the end of the show.
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He's been making fine points.
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I say facetiously, he's been doing his best to present this idea that Obama is doing this.
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The federal government is in charge of not letting planes come in, not taking into account
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the idea that studies had been done.
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And like these studies that I'm talking about, a lot of them had been done before this outbreak
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ever happened.
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Right, right.
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The only one that hadn't is the one about this outbreak that showed that any kind of
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sequestering wasn't effective.
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Right, right, right.
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I think we can agree with Alex when he does say that Rick Perry is a piece of shit, though.
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Fine, but he also was measured about that.
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That's true.
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He wasn't letting Perry off the hook.
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Right.
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But he was also being like, come on, Perry.
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Go off the hook.
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I don't like seeing Alex like that because Endgame literally ends with him with a bullhorn
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outside Perry's home.
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He's outside Rick Perry's home, yelling at him because he went to Bilderberg.
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So I don't like him ever giving him a chance.
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Legitimately, I do not remember that on account of watching Endgame and that being the end.
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The closing shot is Alex as lights go dark outside Rick Perry's house, screaming into
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a bullhorn.
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Yep, I had lost my mind three and a half hours before that.
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Rick Perry.
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Rick Perry, you suck.
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I do want that violin to be our sting now.
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Yeah, should be our theme song.
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Yeah.
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So we got one more clip in that it's a fucking disaster of a fake caller.
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Yeah.
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So one of the things that's really like a hallmark of Alex Jones's show is that he has
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a lot of callers because they know they're anonymous and they're just calling in.
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They often say that, like, I work in intelligence.
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We saw this with Zach.
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Yeah.
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His caller that he kept being having on and mysteriously gone.
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Now I'm crazy.
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What?
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Where does that go?
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What does that just drop that narrative?
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Oh, come on.
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He's at Norcom.
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He's probably run away to Morocco again.
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That's a smart idea on his who knows why hasn't stone left the country.
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Anyways, a lot of these callers that call in give themselves credentials in order to
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make Alex sort of listen to them.
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Right.
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But in doing so, what I've noticed is they only do that to mirror Alex's narratives back
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to him in a way that then he can be like, I talk to this guy who's an insider who knows
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and I'm fucking right.
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There's an echo chamber there where the audience understands that they can elevate his narratives
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by trolling him positively, like in a way that supports what he's doing.
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Right.
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I think that this caller is a perfect representative of that.
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Insider from FEMA region six.
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I'm in former Texas.
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That's in FEMA region six.
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What are you in in FEMA region six?
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I'm in former state tax.
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I work for the regional agency in formerly known as San Antonio, Texas.
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Oh, one of my friends is public health emergency planning.
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The reason I know the Ebola outbreak is being conducted on purpose is it violates all protocols.
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I used to be involved in the hurricane Katrina and Rita response of the evacuees.
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What violates planning for smallpox outbreak in Bexar County?
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The proper response would be the National Guard would seal off Bexar County law enforcement
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and emergency services would redirect the population to all hospitals, churches and
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other government agencies where they would be screened.
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If they were sick, they would be isolated at a former military base until the sickness
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had passed or they died.
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Everyone else will be forcibly vaccinated.
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There would be no exceptions and no travel in and out of Bexar County.
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So the fact that they're allowing people to travel into the United States and they are
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not locking down the city of Dallas tells me this is by design.
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That guy was reading off a script.
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Yeah, I was 100 percent going to say that there's no way that he is extemporaneously
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speaking.
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No, no, no.
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That was 100 percent.
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He's reading an essay that he has written.
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This quote unquote insider is full of shit.
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He clearly doesn't know what the protocol is in a situation like this and what he's
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describing.
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I'm pretty sure it's call in the National Guard, have them screen everybody, isolate
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people in churches and hospitals.
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Right.
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Because why not?
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And then and then kill the military base while they wait to wait until they die.
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Yeah.
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What he's describing is literally Alex Jones's worst nightmare come true in terms of the
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federal government coming in, locking down a city and screening all the citizens at
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military bases and churches that they have requisitioned.
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And that's how you know it's real.
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In reality, this idea comes from movies and it doesn't at all reflect what professionals
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actually do.
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The last time in America there was a large scale quarantine or isolation, it was just
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Japanese people for being Japanese.
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No, no.
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That was internment.
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The last time there was a large scale quarantine was 1918 to 19 when the Spanish flu broke
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out.
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No public health crisis since then.
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And there have been many plenty of them have been responded to by mass quarantine.
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And there's a good reason why multiple reasons why.
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For one, it doesn't work.
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Most basically, a large scale quarantine will almost certainly trigger a mass panic that
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could lead to all manner of unintended consequences ranging from vigilantism to looting.
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Second, that panic in people who see themselves as not sick often leads to people concocting
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plans to break the quarantine.
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No one wants to stay in the place where the sickness is, even if they know that leaving
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puts others at risk.
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It's part of the human survival impulse.
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Probably least importantly, a large scale quarantine is a huge economic disruption.
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Whatever city you're quarantining effectively gets taken out of the larger economy.
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And it's possible that billions could be lost on top of whatever it would cost you to just
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do the quarantine in the first place.
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Beyond that, only 10 states have laws in place that would allow people who have jobs that
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are subject to a quarantine to keep their jobs based on being subject to a quarantine.
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I'm going to say Texas is one of those.
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I'm not sure.
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I don't have a list of all.
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Oh, I feel like it's not.
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OK.
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There's only 10 places that are like, if there's a quarantine, you don't have to come to work.
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We can not fire you for that.
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All right.
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10 out of 50.
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I'm not even going to go with states.
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I'm just going to say that of those 10 states, one of them is just Frankfort, Kentucky.
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Sure.
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I know for sure that they would do that if they could.
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Wait, isn't Ron Paul from Kentucky?
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Or Rand Paul from Kentucky?
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Ron's from Texas.
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Rand's from Kentucky.
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I don't know.
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Look, the issue is that like this doesn't work.
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This idea, what he's putting out into the world, this fake insider, he's putting out
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the idea of like quarantining a city.
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It doesn't work because what you do then is you end up like, just imagine in your head.
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You're not a dumb person.
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Imagine what you use then.
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He's talking about quarantining Dallas, Texas.
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It's a nonsensical proposition.
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The idea that you were ever going to be able to create a like an actual build a wall and
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build a wall is a fun, a fun thing for people to yell, but it is the same instinct here.
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This idea that you're ever going to be able to cloister this city where there is a disease
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there or whatever idea, what is smart about quarantine as a rule is as small as possible.
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So if you have someone who is, you have strong suspicion, has the condition, quarantine that
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person in a hospital, quarantine the house in terms of don't let other people go in there.
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You don't have to clean the entire house.
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What good is that going to do you if no one goes in?
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It doesn't help you.
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So I mean, that was the last clip, Jordan.
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We have this insider who calls in and he's clearly full of shit.
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Like he's not an insider.
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Absolutely not.
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He's someone who's masquerading.
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He's someone who's one of Alex Jones's callers who was trying to create.
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He's 110 pound pimple covered anarchist.
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He's trying to create the perception of himself as an authority figure to reinforce Alex Jones's
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narratives that he has heard by listening to Alex.
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And to get himself stolen authority.
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Maybe, but he's anonymous in many ways.
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Like he doesn't get to own good.
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He's on a nationally syndicated radio network sounding like he was so fucking cool.
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I'm sure he's laid off of it.
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I'm sure he got a charge out of that.
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But also you can't really use that to help it like socially.
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You can't go to the bar and everyone's like, hello, Colonel or whatever.
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Like right, right, right.
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You know, there's still some like it's only for you, but it's also for Alex.
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Yeah.
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It's the kind of like donation in kind that Alex's audience often gives to him.
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Yeah.
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This idea of like they're going to lie in order to bolster Alex's narratives for him on the show.
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You make me feel important, so I'm going to make your narrative feel important as well.
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It's it's important for both of us.
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And so I'm going to I'm going to you need someone to lie to make this make sense.
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So I'm going to do it for you.
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Yeah.
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Which is interesting.
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I'm very fascinated by that, and I'm not saying that just because I disagree with this guy.
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I'm saying this because what he's saying makes no sense.
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The idea of like quarantining a city as large as Dallas or even like he's saying he's from
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Bexar County, which is it's it's spelled Bexar, but it's pronounced bear because Texas is weird.
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But refuse.
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Goodbye.
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But goodbye, Bexar County.
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You're not allowed.
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That's not a small county.
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That includes San Antonio.
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So like it's the idea that like where I come from, like if he had been some guy in the
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tiny county and had been like where I come from, it's like we closed down everything.
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It's like your population is 200.
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Maybe I think that's ineffective, but maybe that would be what you did.
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Right.
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Right.
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Maybe statistically, maybe you could keep 200 people under control.
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Maybe you you put that into 2000 people.
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One is going to get out way more than that.
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And yes, I know.
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I know.
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But like at minimum, one is going to get out.
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And then that take that to order to a million people.
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Yeah, it's nonsensical.
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So my I would like to say thank you to George Soros Jr. for suggesting this.
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Thank you very much.
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It's interesting.
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If for no other reason that I learned about Ellis Island, I appreciate it.
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So, look, if I can make this episode in any way, I would say, Walt, happy birthday.
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You're the best.
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You is the summation of our episode.
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Yeah, that's all I've been trying to say.
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That's always been the entire episode.
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This whole entirely been one happy birthday.
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It's you, you son of a bitch.
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Well, you're one of the best.
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And and this is a lot of fun.
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I do enjoy this.
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I enjoy dipping toes into the past out of context because we're not out of context.
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We know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And so any day that we check in, we can kind of understand what he's talking about.
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Yeah.
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If we had done this episode maybe two years ago, it would have been like, whoa, fucked up stuff.
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But because we have an understanding of him, we can contextualize all these Ebola narratives.
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Yeah, I'm glad that we're doing this this now as opposed to earlier.
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Right.
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And that might be my way of deflecting from the idea that there are a number of time travel
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requests that we haven't done.
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And I'm only trying to say that they're going to be better because we put them off.
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And thank you all.
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Always.
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If you remind me again about needing to do if you have sent me a time travel request,
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it can't hurt to remind me again.
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I'm not going to take it personally.
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I have one minor quibble.
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Oh, OK.
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One minor quibble.
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And this is just language based.
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When you say we know a lot about Alex Jones, I would prefer if you said we know an unfortunate
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amount about Alex Jones.
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It is unfortunate.
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Because it is a...
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You know an unfortunate amount about Alex Jones and I know an abusive amount.
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Yeah, a life destroying amount about Alex Jones.
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I know enough about Alex Jones that I can't do anything else with my life.
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I literally can't.
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Do you know who didn't kill anybody, Dan?
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Somebody who...
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Wait, wait, wait.
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You're telling me about a guy who never killed anybody.
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Never killed anybody.
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Right.
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Do you know what he didn't have?
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A website.
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Do you know what we have?
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We do have a website.
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We do have a website?
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Yeah.
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What's our website?
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Do you know what the guy who I'm specifically thinking of who didn't kill anybody didn't
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have?
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A Twitter account.
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Do we have one?
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This could be disappointing at the end of this if it turns out he did have a website.
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But it's knowledge underscore fight.
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Do you know who didn't have a Facebook account or a group on Facebook called Go Home and
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Tell Your Mother?
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Wait, we're on Facebook.
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Do you know who didn't kill anybody who also cannot be found on iTunes?
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I don't know.
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This is a mysterious thing.
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The Greek god Mithras.
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Mithras never killed anybody?
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Who died and then three days later came back to life and there are no similarities between
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Christian iconography at all, Dan.
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Are you sure Mithras never killed anybody or inspired the death of somebody?
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Never killed anybody.
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Surprisingly as compared to Jesus who in the Apocrypha killed so many people.
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The child gospel.
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He killed his friend.
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Oh, he killed...
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But then he brought him back to life so it's kind of a push.
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Yeah, it was a push.
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He killed a bunch of dragons though and dragons were dope at the time.
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Sure, but that is not a sin.
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But Mithras didn't ever kill nobody.
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But one guy did.
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One guy did.
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Technically.
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Technically probably.
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Probably.
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That's Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
