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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Well Alex, I'm a person color I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed
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We are Dan hi Dan strong reviews on me telling you to shut up at the beginning of our life
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That was pretty great got a lot of feedback
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Everybody loves it whether it be through our Facebook group or texts people have sent me
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Thrilled with shut up being our intro fair enough fair enough. All right. Do you have a question?
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It doesn't matter
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From the rock I like it
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That's a way better intro than me asking you a random interview question. It could be yeah, but do you have one?
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Yeah, what do you got? I was just I was just thinking and I was wondering when was the last time you really felt stupid
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You know what? I mean not ignorant
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But like like generally stupid did somebody make you feel that way. I don't know if anyone made me feel that way
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but when we
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Did when I did a lot of digging into Alex Jones's fortified supply
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Website that he was running illegally
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Yeah
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and then spent hours writing it up and
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Like collecting the documents from the like County clerk in Travis County
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And the Secretary of State and working like in concert with one of our listeners out in in Austin
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Who looked up some stuff with me?
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Like when I spent all that time and then sent all the emails to all these media people about like hey guys
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Here's a crime and then everybody's like go fuck yourself. I felt really stupid after that like cuz I really thought people would care
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Yeah
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I thought based on how many people
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Write all these articles about Alex Jones being a dick and all that stuff like hey on a silver platter
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Here's all the documents here is all of the here is the legal statute that shows that he's willingly
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Subverting the law and everyone's is like man that felt real dumb
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Yeah, but was that handcuffing yourself to Twitter dumb? No. No, Laura Loomer still doing she's she's got me outclassed
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All right by by a wide margin. I would say that that was very dumb. We're I was incredibly dumb
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Yeah, yeah, man. I got a lot of thoughts about her. Yeah and a political action committee
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Everybody
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Turns out there's this political action committee called the millennial political action committee
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That's trying to raise funds to quote free Laura Loomer and it is not what it seems
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Go ahead and look into that for yourself if you want. Hey anybody out there in the media free story
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Just look up who runs the millennial political action committee
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We're we're very easy to get to the bottom of that one. We're gonna be 0 for 2 on
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So I want to you should have told me to shut up dad shut up
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Before we get in today's episode. I have two orders of business one will be saying thank you to some donors
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But before I get to that
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Someone pointed out in our Facebook group go home and tell your mother you're brilliant
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that I was a little bit imprecise with my language on the last episode and I want to give an apology for anybody who
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Not for anybody
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But I want to give an apology that I wasn't more specific in my language when we were talking about Alex Jones's story
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Where he was trying to claim that the trans movement is about grooming children
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I referred to the person in question as a cross-dresser and that was not the precise
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Correct language the person in question and the entire program is drag queen reading sessions
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okay, there is a distinction between the two absolutely and I apologize that I
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Did not use the correct nomenclature. Yeah, absolutely
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My bad on that, you know, we tried to be specific but sometimes you just fuck up. Sorry about that. Yep beyond that
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I'd like to say thank you to some people who have joined up and supported the show
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We're very thrilled about that. First of all, I'd like to say thank you to someone who is now a policy wonk Carla
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Congratulations on policy wonkery. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you car. Thank you very much Carla secondarily
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I'd like to say thank you to someone else who's joined up with the team
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Devin you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Devin. Thank you very much Devin
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Finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody
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Say thank you say thank you. I would like to say thank you
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I was up late researching the millennial political action committee last night, so I might be slurring a little bit
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Thank you so much to someone who has joined up on a little bit of a higher level. So Mallory. Thank you
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You are now a technocrat
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I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent
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He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I run out
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Thank You Mallory. Thank you very much Mallory. Appreciate it. Oh so very much
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So on today's episode Jordan, we will be going over a day in the past. We're in 2009
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And something major happens on this episode that I think is very worth our discussion
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But this is going to be the March 26 2009 episode for everybody who's paying attention. We
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Skipped a day. We skipped March 25th, 2009
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Yes for everybody who's paying attention and the reason for that is that episode is trash. Oh, yeah
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It's mostly just about the Obama deception and how great the movie is and all that stuff sure
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I felt it would be a waste of our time to go over that in addition to that
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He does Alex does talk to Stan Monteith
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One of his weirdo friends. Where do they get these names? It's a it's not a terrible name Monteith. Yeah
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Oh, he's that's great. He's been some I did actually want to talk about this, but we just don't have time
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Yeah, I would like to say thank you to Monteith
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Yeah, exactly that would be that in French that would be the singular be may teeth
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Alright big tooth. You're right. I wish I would be easier to clean
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So Stan is on he's talking about how the globalists and all of these evil folks are
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Gnostics and sure because Gnostics believe that the devil is God and sure
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I wanted to spend maybe an hour talking about how that's bullshit. Yeah, and Stan Monteith is coming in and
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expressing these things and giving like a really stupid elementary version and understanding of Gnosticism and that that is
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It's a disservice to Alex and his audience, but I felt like who gives a shit, right?
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that'll come up in the future and we could talk about it then it's not worth talking about the 25th just for that and
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When I got to the 26th, I realized like yes, this is this is what we need to talk about
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So today we're going over the 26th and here is an out-of-context drop from today's show
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When I make films actually go to the library to pull the quotes. No you don't
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No, you don't I just heard him say the word library in a sentence
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No, and like pass of the times that we've looked at his documentaries. We found wall-to-wall fake quotes
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Oh, yeah, you don't go to the library to pull these fake quotes. You go to like your Patriot message boards
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If I saw him in a library, I would burn that library down. There's no way he should be, you know
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He shouldn't I get even if he wanted to be in the library, which he fucking doesn't know cuz he doesn't know how to read
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No, he should not be allowed in any library. The library is the only place I can get access to in Carta
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That might be what's going that might be true
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So I use the public computers to look at porn on our last episode
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we looked at the
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Present-day episode where Alex in 2018 is talking about how you know news keeps coming fast
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It's the quickening you sang some goddamn highlander
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Song on the show and I made the point that Alex always says that it's the quickening that was Queen
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Okay from the wasn't from the highlander to I know but don't call it some damn highlander song. That's a song man
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capital s fine I
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Made the point that Alex always says that the quickening is upon us and just to demonstrate that I'm not talking shit
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Here's a clip from March 26th, 2000 really
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Massive news day. I tell you we always have huge news days now
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It's quickening worldwide on every issue and every facet of society
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He always says that's too convenient. That's too convenient
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It can't literally be a the next episode we do on the on
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It's not like you searched around for it. It was in our regular schedule and it's already there. That's fucked up
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Well, it's cuz I don't like it. I don't like coincidences on that scale
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It's not a coincidence when I say that he always says this it's because he says it every third or fourth episode
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I just don't play it every time. Okay the same with the summer of rage stuff
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I could find you 40 examples of that if I
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Took the time to cut it out of every time him or Gerald Cilenti or one of his other guests says it like it's not
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It's it's only quote unquote coincidental because I'm like, oh here I'm gonna punch this guy
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Here's him saying the quickening like he does in the president
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He always does that because it's a way he can create the perception that times are different than they were
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When in reality, he's always selling the same panic
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Yeah, always selling the same sense of urgency because it helps him sell gold in the past
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supplements in the more recent past and
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June s
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Both marketing scams in the in the soon-to-be future once his warehouse is empty
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Yeah
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well
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of course I would I would love to see you try and commit to
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To an episode where you just start with each clip being him saying summer of rage
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And you introduce it like we were doing a regular clip and you just keep on doing it
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I would I would wonder how long you could commit to it if I had started
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Collecting all the times. They said it a while back. I could do that right now. I
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Could do that. I could we could do a whole episode of summer of rage clips
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But I know but it has to be a surprise
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It has to be a bit man and you have to commit to it
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I understand that and I think I could do that
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I think I have it within me
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But I don't have it within me to go back and listen to all the episodes that I've already listened to
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I'll work on it for the future and by the time I have enough clips you will have forgot will have forgotten them
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It'll be perfect. We'll get there. Okay, and the audience will forget forgotten twos. It'll all be great. So
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In the next clip we have here
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We get a little bit of an update on if you'll recall the last time we were in 2009
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Alex was fake crying on air a whole bunch about the mandatory service bill
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Yes that he didn't understand was a different version of the bill than had passed the house
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Right and with a different version than it was even introduced in the Senate all that language
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He was afraid of wasn't in either of the versions of the bill that are relevant
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It was a is a former version of the bill. I assume he does not talk about it ever again
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We get an interesting update on this episode where Alex
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You know in comedy they you know, when you try and make a joke on a joke, it's putting a hat on a hat
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Yeah in this Alex puts a lie on a lie
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At the propaganda hat on a hat. We've got some good news there
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You know, we we break this stuff as it develops two days ago
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That they had compulsory national service in both versions of the bill
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Then they dropped one of the two provisions out of the Senate bill and the latest copy I read this morning
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They have now taken it out of the Senate version, but it's still in the house version
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There's five different compulsory service bills in the house three different ones that we know of and we're not omnipresent folks
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We're trying to keep track of all of this with everything else. We've got too many balls in the air
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So that is good news
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But the point is they're trying to sneak compulsory service through and they're keeping the language in some of the house versions about
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You literally can't do that see to prepare for compulsory service
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So so he's trying to create the perception that like we got good news
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You know
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They took it out almost in some ways trying to imply that their warnings about it
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precipitated this of course taking the language out of the bills
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Maybe all of you info warriors out there sent letters to your Congress people and they got together
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We're like we will not stand for this in the house version of the bill
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Sure, but in reality when he started reporting the story, he was already wrong. The language was already out
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So, um, this is this is nonsense like but it does answer the question that I had to take
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How do you get out of this now?
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Like when I when he was crying about the bill like what do you do next when you're wrong and you know
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We did it. This is an accomplished banner. Basically, that's what you do
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Yep, you maybe don't take full responsibility for getting the language out
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But you pretend that something happened in the language is now gone good news. Good news, everybody
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However, there are five bills three of which we know of two of which are secret crypto bill can't happen
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No, that's not how that works. Haven't you ever have secret built haven't you ever seen the Masonic version of schoolhouse rock?
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I have not seen the Masonic version of schoolhouse rock. It's about crypto bills and how they become secret laws
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I'm just a bill and no one can speak of me ever. I will kill all of you
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my camps
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That would be a different song
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Yeah, so, you know Alex's is covering his ass a little bit because he realizes I played that narrative too hard
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Yeah, that was a I cried
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So I cried a little bit much it felt good in the moment and now I got to get out of it
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99% right so he goes 99% right he goes to break and then he comes back with one of his favorite
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Goddamn songs that has ever been written
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Is somebody turning the volume up? You bet. Is somebody cranking this? Oh, yeah. Is Alex like signaling like give me some more?
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Put it up!
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I need a jam!
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He's just playing the song!
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He's just playing the song!
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He's not even singing along with it!
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That's why I gotta do it!
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Now you gotta do it after the renegades
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After the renegades
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Where we be
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Where we be
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Renegades of mine
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So that's where I expected Alex to come in
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Right
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Unfortunately, he did not
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They railed against the crowd
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Still going! Second verse!
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Still going! With a rag-tag band
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Declaring
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Declaring stuff
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So he never comes back
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He never comes back! The whole song plays and it goes back to break
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The whole song plays and it goes back to break!
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So I'm sitting there and I'm like huh
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Did he turn into an FM station while we weren't listening?
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I was just like what the fuck just happened there?
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I've never heard anything like that
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Cause he doesn't say like I gotta shit
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I'm gonna be gone for this break or anything like that
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Like what happened?
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Alex just played an entire fucking song and it didn't come back
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But then after that commercial break
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He comes back and explains what had happened
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I had to take a shit
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We are back live
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I was just on candy demo
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And he goes right into cake
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One of the big talk stations
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In Missouri out of St. Louis
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And they said they wanted a three minute
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Quote for their news and then it went longer
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So I had to run that music earlier
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I did an hour interview
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On a syndicated African American show out of Maryland
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It's all over the country
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The truth seeker
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And I'm not whining here
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I got Russia Today coming for an hour long interview
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I'm turning down most of the interviews because I just can't even operate or see my family
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That's tough
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He was on someone else's radio show during his radio show
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And that's why he had to play Thank God for the Renegades
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In its entirety and miss an entire break
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He wasn't on somebody else's show
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He was on an African American show
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No no no that was a different interview he did
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He was mentioning other great media appearances he's done
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This was a show out of St. Louis
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You could just call it a show though
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But it also seemed like from what I could get
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From what I gather in his language
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It sounded like it was a pre-taped thing
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They were recording something
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That they would then use on the St. Louis station later
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It doesn't need to be in the middle of your show that you do this
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No it's got to be then
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And if you want a three minute thing
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What are you going to come in early?
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Could or do it yesterday
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It's obviously about the MIAC report
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There's no breaking news on that
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If it's a Missouri station
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That's obviously what he's going to be screaming at them about
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For sure
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I don't fucking know
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This is so unprofessional
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He leaves his show all the time
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In regard for his own show
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When it comes to anybody else's show
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Well he knows it's shit
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Well and he knows that other people have
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Non-crazy audiences
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Or larger audiences
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And he's like I'm going to need a little bit of them
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I'm going to turn these people crazy
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Exactly, exactly
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They still have resources
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I have depleted most of my
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Old man house phone
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Doesn't have any more money
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No old man house phone doesn't have any
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Old man house phone
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Get on the family plan old man house phone
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He does have one of those giant
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That's true
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You mean the one that's the size of a school bus?
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Yep
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That's where he puts his house phone
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Good idea, keep it wet
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House phones are better when they're wet
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In this next clip
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What we do is we hear Alex
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Going to the phones
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A caller drops by
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He has a familiar
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Thing to sing
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Joshua, in Florida, you're on the air
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Alex Jones, how you doing my friend?
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Good sir
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Fantastic, I have some news as well with the Obama
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Deception, great film, great film
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I think it's pretty much the
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Gateway documentary to get
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The sheeple
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Into the mix of the New World Order
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It is made for people
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That don't know about the New World
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Order, it's made to shatter the left
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Right paradigm
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They don't know what bullshit is
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That's how we should phrase that
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It's for people who don't know
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That all of my experts
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Are liars and Wayne
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Paul is an idiot
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Wayne Paul is crazy
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Like a fox
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Like an anti-government fox
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Even if you agree with the points
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Made in the documentary, it's really boring
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It's very boring
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It's really bad
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I think that you're just
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Coming to that from a rational
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Perspective, and I think that if you're
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Someone who is emotionally
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Invested in the idea that there's a New World
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Order trying to kill your children
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You might experience some of that really
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Boring content differently
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Because it's boring to us because we have the
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Veneer of like, haha, this is stupid
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But if you're like, this is real
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Information being laid down
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I think you might be engaged
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I mean, I don't know, just from like a film
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Standpoint, it's over long
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It has serious pacing issues
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Why do you need
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15 names of the title
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Card with like, you could just toss
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In like Timothy Geithner and then
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Just call it
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There's no counting for taste in the world
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Because some people think Elf is a good movie
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Oh, that's true
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I have arguments
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All the time with people about Elf
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James Caan!
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Amazing James Caan
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Christmas is coming up
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So now it's time to get into Elf
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Once a year I've got to complain about Elf
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And it's time
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Jordan, you know what my complaint about Elf is
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I do not
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I know I've probably drunkenly
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Yelled this at you at the bar
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Oh, I'm sure, but I filter out all Elf related
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Opinions
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Tune it out then
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My problem with Elf is that
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It exists in a world where
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Number one, Santa is real
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We know that to be the truth
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Secondly, in that world
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We know that all parents
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Must know that Santa is real
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Because
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He brings their children gifts
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Right
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So, there is no reason for adults to
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Act like Santa doesn't exist
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Unless there's a conspiracy among
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All adults to deny the existence
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Of Santa
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See, now that's what the Obama deception should have been about
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The Elf deception
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It makes no sense at all
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The idea that at the end Santa
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And his sleigh come through
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And everybody acts shocked
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To see Santa
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They fucking know Santa exists
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How do they explain the presents that show up
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I understand wanting to lie to your children
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Or something like that with a cover story of some kind
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But if you in your heart of hearts
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Wake up on Christmas morning and you're like
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Holy shit, there's a bunch of shit here I didn't buy
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What the fuck is going on
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Clearly it's Santa
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Do you not talk to your adult friends and like
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Do gifts just show up
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Yeah man, I thought it was just me
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No, you can't do that
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The entire
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No you can't
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If Santa is real
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You have to then convince yourself he's not
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Imagine the economic
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Fucking nightmare it would be
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If you knew that one man could create
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All these toys
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You would have to go find his fucking workshop
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He creates all of these fucking toys
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He would destroy the total economy
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Toys R Us already went out of business
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And there isn't even a Santa
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The labor implications are devastating
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It's terrifying
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Who is regulating those fucking elves
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Yes, absolutely
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There's a lot of problems there and like
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My politics would like to talk about some of that stuff
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But more importantly
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I am infuriated
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That they didn't think for one
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Fucking second about that massive
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Plot hole in the story
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That everyone who has a kid
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Knows goddamn well that Santa's real
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There's no reason for any of the
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Tension in that movie
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Now, hold on
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Does Santa not bring adults presents?
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I don't know, I don't remember exactly
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But I'm willing
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That seems unfair
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I'm willing to stipulate that adults buy adults presents
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And Santa brings children presents
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I think that's a universal
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Conception of Santa
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I'm willing to buy that
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I'm not willing
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I'm willing to buy that
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What exactly is your line?
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I'm not willing to
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I'm even going to go further
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Because originally I said that anyone who has kids
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Must know Santa is real
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Anyone who ever was a kid must know Santa is real
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No, because their parents could be manipulating them
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And lying to them
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There is a global conspiracy
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I would argue anybody with a younger sibling
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Also must know Santa is real
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Because they would have become teenagers
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When their
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Sibling was younger
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And so they would have seen, holy shit
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You're a teen, you got
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Like an 8 year old sibling
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And you're like, oh my god
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I didn't buy that gift for them
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Did my parents buy that gift? Crazy
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What else is real?
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That's the other thing
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It opens up a whole can of worms
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If Santa Claus is real, is the entire legend real?
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Is Krampus real?
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Is the horror movie Krampus
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Actually a sequel to Elf?
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We lost the horror movie and the other one
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Where are they in the spectrum?
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I don't care
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And who's Tim Allen in all of this?
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Look, Belzer isn't in any of them
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So we can't connect them into one unified
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Cinematic universe
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But, Elf is a fucking terrible movie
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It's stupid, Jon Favreau
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Fucked it up
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It's Jon Favreau's fault?
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He directed it, man! He didn't write it
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So what? He had some oversight
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I want to know who was editing the movie
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Everyone
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Top to bottom
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Farrell, Deschanel, you're all on notice
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I'll tell you who's fine in all of this
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Jimmy Cahn
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Cahn, you're great. Stick with it
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His character makes no goddamn sense
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Exactly, he's Jimmy Cahn
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If understood through the prism of
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He has to know Santa is real
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His cruelty makes no sense
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Why is he in denial of the idea that this guy's an elf
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He knows full well
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That fucking Santa's real
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He has a similar illegitimate son issue
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He just doesn't want to
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That's the plot of the movie, right?
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He's actually James Cahn's son
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But he also thinks he's crazy because he's an elf
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He is crazy! He's an elf!
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Look at that
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You don't want that
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It has nothing to do with Santa Claus
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He doesn't want that man to be his son
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He's just a shitty father
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That's what it really is
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If you wanted to make a darker version of the movie
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Where Jimmy Cahn's character is like
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Yes, you are an elf
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And Santa is real, I don't fucking want to talk to you
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Or something like that
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I might be more interested in that
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Character motivations, man
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You create a universe with a movie
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You've got to live in that universe
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It makes no sense
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This has been my annual elf complaining session
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Which will be featured next year as well
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See you next year
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But for now, this caller who loves the Obama deception
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Has a little bit more to say
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And again, much like Alex leaving his own show
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To go beyond another show
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We see another indication that Alex needs
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Outside influence in order to
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Have his show be viable
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And call local shows
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And say there's a new film exposing Obama
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And the bankers and what they're really planning
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But exposes that Bush is working with him as well
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So it's not a left-right issue
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And just say, the Obama deception
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Free at YouTube, free at Google
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The Obama deception
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And just get it out to people
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Yeah, you really want to sound like a lunatic
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In front of me, Glenn Beck's
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Radio call and phone number
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If you want me to throw that out real quick
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Is that cool?
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Sure, go ahead
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He's eating something
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I'm gonna go take a shit
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This show is from
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9am to noon Eastern Standard Time
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And I want to encourage anybody in Florida
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To check us out at www.meetup.com
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Backslash Orlando 911 Truth
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We're getting pretty active
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We're waking up all kinds of people here in Florida
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And we just encourage all the other groupings
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Get active, get aggressive
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This is crunch time
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We really have to get on the ball, ladies and gentlemen
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Joshua, what feedback
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Because you're very aggressive in what you're doing
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God bless you, I salute you
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What feedback are you getting from those
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That have seen the Obama deception?
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It's pretty amazing
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Everyone that has watched it has said
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Wow, that's just mind blowing
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And they always want to know what else
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They come to find out where to go next
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Always send them to Endgame
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Send them to Loose Change Final Cut
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Send them to 9-11 Mysteries
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And it's just
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It's a new renaissance, just like you said in the film
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Man, it's really exploding here
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And Orlando especially
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That's not inspiring
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Nope, we're gonna add Orlando
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To the list of places along with
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Mississippi and Louisiana
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Places on our list
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I don't know, I mean just this guy's
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Perception that things are really popping off
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In Orlando doesn't mean it actually is
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This guy could have a very skewed version
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Of what's going on
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He probably does, he's on meetup
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And people who are telling him like, wow
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It might be like that
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As opposed to wow
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Whoa, I gotta go
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Yeah, I was gonna say, whenever you're like
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Oh, where should I go next? Because my plan
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Is away from you, anywhere else
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Also, I would say, where should you go next?
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Check into any of the things in
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That movie, that's what you should do
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Before you blindly accept Joshua
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And Orlando's word, go ahead
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And look in to see if any of those quotes are real
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Spoiler alert, they're not
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Was 9-11 Mysteries a WB show for a while?
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I believe so
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It was right after Ghost Rider, I think
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Yeah, it was
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Before the CW
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So, Jordan, at this point in the show
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I told you earlier
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That this episode
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Is pretty important
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This is a big episode which really
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Merits the ignoring
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Of March 25th
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And that's because of a guest that comes up
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And I'm gonna tell you, spoiler alert
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Patrice O'Neill shows up at the end
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Of this episode, and we're not gonna talk about
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That at all, because this guest
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Who comes up now, is too
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Important, because it rewrites
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A lot of Alex's history
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It's actually Bernie Mac
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The precursor to Patrice O'Neill
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He's so amazing, if he came on
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He's like, hey Alex, I ain't scared of you
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Motherfuckers, kick it
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He's just there
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Oh god, if he just did that routine
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Oh hell yeah, that'd be great
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I don't know nothing about the New World Order, kick it
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That'd be amazing
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I'm the original king of the New World Order
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God dammit, kick it
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I swear to god, there's nothing
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Funnier than that set on BET
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It's amazing, it's amazing
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Anyway, like I said, this rewrites
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A lot of Alex's history
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As we know from his telling of it
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When he was 12, he found None Dare
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Call It Conspiracy on his dad's bookshelf
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Of course
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And that turned him on to the New World Order
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And he did some research, he read all these books
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He never really specifies a lot of the books
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That he read
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Like Carole Quigley
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He read Tragedy and Hope
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And found out about the Anglo-American establishment
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And we've seen
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Through tracking the narratives
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That he talks about and things like that
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That what he's actually saying is that he found
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W. Cleon Skousins, the naked capitalist
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And pretended that he had read
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Quigley, and just knows the misrepresentations
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Of them
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Now when he says that he read a lot of books
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Like I said, he never really specifies them
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But in this next clip
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In addition to his coming guest
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We learn what some of these books were
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Well the president
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Of the John Birch Society
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Lou
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This is the next segment, he's doing a Texas tour
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We'll tell you all about that
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The location is going to be it
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So you can attend those, very informative
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John Birch Society material
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Along with reading books by
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Carole Quigley and Elitist and others
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And the book, None Dare Call It Conspiracy
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Woke me up in high school
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And then I went to college and that was really a big wake up
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Everything that I'd read
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From the JBS and others
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Came true when they told me the second amendment was bad
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America was bad, one world government was good
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Then I turned on CNN and they'd say
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Crazy extremists say world government exists
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And they're dangerous
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But I was like, wait a minute, I was just taught that
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At college
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How does it not exist
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And down the rabbit hole I went
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Great materials they put out
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And we're honored to have him here with us
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At the Central Texas headquarters
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So it turns out
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A lot of the books that he was reading
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Were John Birch Society materials
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Now it's interesting to me that Alex
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Doesn't really talk about how
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Influential the John Birch Society is to him
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On a regular basis
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And I think that's probably because
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They have the stink of being really crazy
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On them
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So Alex likes to whitewash his influences
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The same way that he says
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Reading Carole Quigley turned me on
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Instead of saying I read W. Cleon Skousen's
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Naked Capitalist
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Because then people would be like, oh
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Well you didn't read the actual thing
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You read the lie about the thing
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He acts like, no I read all this
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These are all my anti-globalist influences
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Doesn't really bring up
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The John Birch Society being a really
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Important piece of it
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I want to tell you about the John Birch Society
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Somebody should keep
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John Birch Society books
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Should be regulated the same way
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That porn is
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18 or older
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You should not be allowed to read
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John Birch Society books when you're in high school
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That should be against the law
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It's really tough to
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I don't know if I agree with you necessarily
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But it is really dangerous to have people
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Whose brains aren't formed yet
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Who don't have the adult
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Critical thinking capabilities
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To be exposed to very intentional
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Propaganda
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As is very clear with Alex
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His case study
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It can screw up your whole life
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Based on internalizing these ideas
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Before you're able to
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Think, well I don't know about that
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Oh wait, you're saying that you know
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About what the communists really were doing?
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Well of course you
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I'm committing the fallacy of
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Appeal to authority
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And I'm just going to go along with you
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So I want to tell you about the John Birch Society
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Because I bet you don't know much about them
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I know enough
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Is that they are batshit insane
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They are, we'll get to some of that
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Some very prominent assholes have been
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Members of the John Birch Society
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So the John Birch Society
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Was founded in Indianapolis, Indiana
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On December 9th, 1958
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All I need to know
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By a man named Robert Welsh Jr.
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Welsh named the organization
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After a Baptist missionary
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And former soldier who was allegedly
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Killed by communists in China
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Just after World War II
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Welsh chose John Birch as the name
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For his society
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Because it was an obscure name
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Which is perfect as a template upon which
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You can write your own story
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Welsh painted Birch as quote
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The first casualty of the Cold War
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In reality, fellow soldier Jimmy Doolittle
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Who knew the real John Birch
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Has gone on record and said in his autobiography
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That Birch quote, would not have approved
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Of them using his name in that way
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It was an inappropriate and disrespectful
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Use of a person's name
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That he would not have thought
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Of posthumously without their consent
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Welsh had been the proprietor before this
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Of Oxford Candy Company
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But the business went under during the Great Depression
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Luckily, his brother James Welsh
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Owned another candy company
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The James O. Welsh Company
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So after the Oxford Candy Company
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Went out of business
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Robert Welsh just jumped over
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And started working at James's outfit
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Hold on, what?
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Hold on, you need to
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These two brothers
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Owned separate candy companies
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And it also speaks to the idea
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They're like, we love competition
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You ran competing
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Candy companies with your brother
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And when one of you went out of business
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You just went over and worked at the other one
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It's kind of against the idea of all these
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In the same place?
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They were both in Indianapolis?
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They operated in the same region
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Separate candy companies
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Here's an interesting piece
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At James's Candy Company
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They introduced Junior Mints, sugar babies
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And sugar daddies
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Robert got crazy fucking rich on candy money
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And he retired in 1956
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With candy money out the wazoo
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So
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He invented Junior Mints
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The brother of the guy who created
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The John Birch Society
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Invented Junior Mints
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Well, it's unclear
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That is wild
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It's unclear who's responsible for the actual invention
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It could have been Robert
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It was actually John Birch
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He was the first casualty of the Cold War
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And he invented Junior Mints
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It's nuts
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With that fucking weird neo-nazi guy
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Inventing scruples
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And now we got the fucking
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Head of the John Birch Society
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Creating Junior Mints
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Who the fuck are you people? Stop it!
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Finding himself bored, Robert decided to get more active
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In politics after his retirement
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When I say more active
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Robert already lost a race for the lieutenant governorship
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Of Massachusetts in 1952
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And was well down the paranoid
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Anti-communist propaganda path
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By the time he retired
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Rick Peralson writes in his book
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Before the Storm, Barry Goldwater
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And the Unmaking of the American Consensus
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That early John Birch Society meetings
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Were raucous social affairs
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And served an important societal purpose
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They provided disaffected Republicans
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Who felt that their party was heading too far left
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With a means of organizing
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And at the same time, they gave bored housewives
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Something to do other than embrace
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The rising feminism
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Instead, they could fight communism
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It served this interesting dual purpose
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From a social and political standpoint
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For the right
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Members would host monthly meetings in their living rooms
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Where they would watch videos of Welsh
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Giving speeches
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And often write letters to their representatives
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About how everything was happening in the world
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Everything that was happening was a communist plot
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It wasn't actually Welsh, it was just Welshmen
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It was just a large number of Welsh people
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Giving speeches
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Yeah, I'd watch some of that
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Once each individual group's membership
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Reached 24, it would split in two
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Operating under the theory that smaller groups
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Would be harder for communists to infiltrate
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I mean, I guess that
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That does make sense
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Yeah
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In a bizarre twist that almost certainly
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Would never have happened if there was more than
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Five TV channels back then, the society
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Blew up
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Things swelled after the 1960 election
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As anti-communist fervor began to go
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More mainstream
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According to the John Birch Society
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Everything was a communist plot
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Chief Justice Earl Warren, communist plot
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American involvement in Vietnam, communist plot
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The public school system, communist plot
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Fluoride in the water, communist plot
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Their beliefs were so dumb
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That by the early 1960s
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You had people like William F. Buckley
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Calling them, quote, far removed from common sense
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And Ayn Rand even saying
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These ideas were, quote, childishly naive
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And superficial
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Wow, that is harsh criticism coming from
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Someone childishly naive and superficial
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After it came out that
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Welsh had accused Eisenhower of being a communist
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Tool and guilty of treason
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William F. Buckley decided to try and get him
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Kicked out of the leadership role in the John Birch
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Society, but was unsuccessful
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From there he began trying to sway conservatives
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From believing John Birch Society bullshit
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And thus his reputation
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Of being a sensible conservative
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Isn't that how they all
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Wind up being sensible, is like
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Hey, hey guys, let's not
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Be the absolute worst
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Let's just be mostly
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The worst, and then you get the
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Maverick, McCain label
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God, they're stupid
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From Buckley's biography, quote, Buckley
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Was beginning to worry that with the John Birch
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Society growing so rapidly, the right wing
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Upsurge in the country would take an ugly
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Even fascist turn, rather than
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Leading toward the kind of conservatism
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That the National Review had promoted
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That sounds crazy
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What are you talking about?
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That would never happen
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No! Outright fascism?
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Come on!
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Though they were on the outsides of everything
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Politically speaking for the most part, the society
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Did massive recruitment work
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And largely used cheaply produced paperback
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Books to disseminate their message
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They were largely responsible for getting out
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Phyllis Schlafly's book, A Choice Not an Echo
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And Gary Allen's, none dare call it
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Conspiracy, both books that Alex
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Was very inspired by as a child
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In this era, John Birch
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Society was a fringe group, seen by
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Mainstream conservatives as basically
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Raving lunatics, they weren't welcome
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At the table of the GOP, even
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Barry Goldwater broke ties with them
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Mostly due to the Eisenhower
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Shit, like the idea that they were
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Welch was calling for treason
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Charges against Eisenhower, he's like
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Oh no, you guys are fucking nuts
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And I invented antsy pants
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I don't like
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How they all invented some crazy
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Shit. It's wild man, there was a time when
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You could invent something and it would take over
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And it would just go like crazy
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You would invent the greatest thing in the world now and it's like
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Maybe get $5,000 for it or whatever
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Yeah
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You get more for a good board game
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GoFundMe than you do
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Well, fair enough
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So they were a fringe group and unwelcome in the GOP
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At that point, and they were
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Until 2010
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When they were allowed to be co-sponsors
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Of CPAC
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Strangely, this was after the rise in influence
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Of the very John Birch Society
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Inspired Tea Party movement in conservatism
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That, I'll remind you
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Is a movement that was funded almost
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Entirely by the Koch Brothers
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Children of Fred Koch
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Founding member of the John Birch
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Society
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Not to put too fine a point on this, but the
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John Birch Society is basically the Tea Party in a
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Past generation. As a former member
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Carol Connor told it
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I always tell my liberal friends, you better stop
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Laughing at these people and pay attention
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The ideas you hear today coming from the right
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Were generated in the 60s by the John Birch Society
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It's new language, but the same ideas
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In terms of the intellectual
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Framework of the GOP
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It's the Birch Society every single day
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And that is what we've seen
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Yeah! So, we're doing great
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I think what we
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Really need to do, Dan
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Is reach across the aisle and compromise
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You know that the only way
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To reach out to these
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John Birch people is to give them
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99% of what they want all the time
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Thanks Democratic Party, you guys are doing great
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Oh, I have bad news. Compromise is a
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Communist plot. Oh no!
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Shit! No wonder they
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Wouldn't seat Gorsuch
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Never mind. So,
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We got the president of the John
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Birch Society now as a guest
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On Alex Jones' show
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He's already retconned a bit of his own
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History in terms of, he doesn't talk
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About the John Birch Society being super
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Important to him, they fucking are
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They believe every single thing he does
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And there's more to this
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Than just that, that I think is important
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That we will get into as we hear
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Some of these clips, but here is
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McManus, Mr. McManus
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The president of the John Birch Society
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Getting a nice introduction
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But Mr. McManus, it is just great to
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Meet you in person and I appreciate your
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Tireless work at the John Birch Society
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Over the last 40 years
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Thank you, it's my pleasure
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I tell people all the time
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I wouldn't miss this fight for anything
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Boy, I tell you, everything you guys
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Talked about has unfortunately come true
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Well, it has if you've already
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Decided it's true before it happens
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And then you just, you know
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It's self-fulfilling to a certain extent
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So, in this
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Next clip from McManus, we get
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A little tidbit of his history
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With the John Birch Society
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That tells me something that I don't like
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About this McManus character
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On a personal level
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I did three years in the Marine Corps
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After college as a lieutenant
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And then I was an electronics engineer
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And I joined the society as a local member
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In the early 60s
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In 1964 they asked me to take a staff position
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Excuse me, I was 66
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So I've been on the staff of the Birch Society
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For 43 years
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So, his timeline
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For the John Birch Society
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Troubles me a little bit
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The idea that he was around in the early 60s
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Is a problem
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Because the John Birch Society
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Was vociferously against civil rights
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I was about to ask you, Dan
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I assumed that they came down
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On the right side of history
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But now I'm starting to think that maybe
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Maybe a lot of
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Now, this is going to sound crazy to you
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Maybe
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A lot of these economic
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Communist ideas
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Are not so much
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You know
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Inspired by the economics
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And maybe they're more inspired
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By some sort of large movement
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Of people
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Coming together
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Hoping for inclusion in the society
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That already says that they were included
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Even though they really weren't
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No, you're just trying to force historical
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Parallels
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I'm just saying that maybe now
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The resurgence of the John Birch Society
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Has something to do with
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And it's crazy that it would happen
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Right around the exact same time
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As a black president
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It's crazy
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It's almost like
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These were originated as
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Purely racist organizations
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That built a veneer of
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Economic semblance around them
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Even though those ideas are even
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More batshit insane than racism
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It's an interesting thought
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Maybe
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I will tell you this, that in October 1965
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The John Birch Society made their big move
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They published a large
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They killed Martin Luther King Jr.
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A couple years later
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They published a large advertisement in the
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Palm Beach Post titled
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What's wrong with civil rights?
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Wherein they argued that the concept of civil rights
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Was being pushed by
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You guessed it, communist
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Agitators to create division
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And bring down capitalism
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I bet they wish they had George Soros
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At that time
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They do not like George Soros
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Isn't that a surprise?
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We'll see how that plays into this interview
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They argue that
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The average American negro has complete
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Freedom of religion, freedom of movement
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And freedom to run his own life as he pleases
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Boy, these guys
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These guys are dumb
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The argument that someone on the side
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Against them would say is
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They don't have the right to participate
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In public commerce
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In places that put up signs that say
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No black people allowed
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That wouldn't be
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No, you can't move into that public business
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Oh, right
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It's a private business in terms of it being
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Privately owned and operated
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But it's still engaged in commerce with the public
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I assume that these guys
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Just kind of
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You know, just like
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Paper over the whole
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Massive amount of lynchings that were going on
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Well, you gotta understand
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There's really zero freedom of movement
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There
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I don't know if that relates to movement
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I would say that yes
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They probably just
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Fake news maybe
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They didn't really bother with that
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They have all of the
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Rights, right?
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So yeah, they published this
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It would have cost quite a bit
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Of money back then
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What's wrong with civil rights?
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It's just a communist plot
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Black people have it fine
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Black people don't want this
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And the white people are just being tricked into
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Sporting it too, this is all bullshit
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Fuck it, should be able to discriminate
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It doesn't matter
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Keep people out of the ability to
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Operate in the economy
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Well, the economy will solve itself
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If you don't want
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A business that
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Excludes black people to be open
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Don't patronize it, Dan
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The free market will solve it
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This whole civil rights thing
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That's just a communist plot to take over
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It's just the government overreaching
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Trying to grab it
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It's the nanny state is what it is, Dan
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So in 1963, Fred Koch
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Wrote a book called
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A Businessman Looks at Communism
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Which is widely distributed by the John Birch Society
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In the book, Fred sounds an awful lot
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Like both Alex Jones and
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Flaming racists
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Quote, you may be sure that the communists
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Are rushing furiously in the troubled waters
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Of integration on both sides
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The communists are not interested in the aspirations
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Of the negro, except as a means to
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Stir up racial hatred
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The colored man looms large in the communist
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Plan to take over America
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I've been told by ex-communists that the
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Communist party has been influential in changing
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The relief laws in New York, Philadelphia
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Washington, Detroit, and Chicago
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To make it attractive for rural
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Southern negroes and Puerto Ricans to come
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To those cities
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The communist party intends to use the votes
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Of these people to swing the balance in these
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Populous states. Secondly, when the party
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Is ready to take over these cities
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It will use the colored people by getting
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A vicious race war started
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Wow, 1963
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I bet they would get that vicious
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Race war started
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In the summer. Doesn't this sound exactly
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Like so much of the
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Shit we've heard from Alex? Yep
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Interesting, Fred Koch wrote that in 1963
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In a book that was widely
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Distributed by the John Birch Society
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I wonder if that was on Alex's dad's shelf
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No, come on. I wonder
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Nah. I wonder if that was one of the books he read
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When he was 12. Why would you think that?
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I don't know, maybe because of Alex's words
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I don't know
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I don't know. Oh, I thought this
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Was the time where you would immediately play a clip
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Of him saying exactly that. No, no
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I thought you had Receipts Out the
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Wazoo on this one. We kind of already played
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That one a little earlier. Well, that's true, that's true
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Fair enough. Lest you think that
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The out of context drop I played at the beginning
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Of the episode was for no reason
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I present to you
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McManus
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President of the John Birch Society
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Committing the exact same sin
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Alex Jones does all the time
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They only want power
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And it's a
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Devilish determination
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To take power over mankind
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One of the ways of doing that is economically
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Was my
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Arancio Rothschild
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One of the famous Rothschild banking empire
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He said, give me control
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Of a nations money, I care not who makes the laws
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I'm guessing that's a fake quote
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Because that person will make the laws
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As I want them made
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And that's where we are. So that is a fake quote
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Most sources
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Say that he
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Mayor Amshel Rothschild
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Said that in 1838
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That's a problem because
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He died in 1812
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Couldn't have said the quote then
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The quote is usually
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Phrased
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So people say that he said it in 1838?
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A lot of the
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Sources that link to that
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But I would imagine that some people are like
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Got the date wrong, whatever, he said it before he died
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26 years? Who cares?
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That's a lot to get the date wrong
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There's bigger problems
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The quote is supposedly, permit me to issue
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And control the money of a nation and I care not
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Who makes its laws
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That is the formulation of the quote
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Unfortunately, no primary source for this
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Is known
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And the earliest version of that quote being cited
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Is 1935
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So 1935
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A good
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Over 100 years after his death
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This quote shows up
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Just because it's 100 years after his death
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And there's no primary source
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And the people who say that he said it
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Say that he said it 26 years after his death
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Doesn't mean it's not accurate, Dan
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What are you going to tell me now?
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The Bible was written several hundred years after the events
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It says to describe
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It's probably not as accurate as maybe if it was
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Written by a first-hand account
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That's crazy, Dan
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God wrote the John Birch Society
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Lies
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The bigger issue is that this is a paraphrasing
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Of
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Quotes that have been played out
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Through history
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The earliest version of this quote is
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From
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The 17th century Scottish Parliamentarian
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Andrew Fletcher
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He sounds like an on-the-up-and-up guy
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This is from him
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Quote, I said I knew a very wise man
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So much of Sir Christopher's sentiment
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That he believed that if a man were permitted to make
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All the ballads, he need not care
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Who should make the laws of a nation
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This is a paraphrasing
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Of this guy
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Sir Christopher, a poet
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Who said, let me write the ballads of a nation
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And I care not who make their laws
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Right, which is essentially him saying
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If I can control the history
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Or I can create the mythology
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Of a country, I can create the
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The national character with the songs we
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Sing and that sort of thing
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So that is sort of an artistic
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Flourish-y kind of talk
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Of like, I will create the character of the nation
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Through ballads
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That quote has been taken, morphed
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Repurposed to be an anti-Semitic
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Slur against the
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Rothschilds
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As a, let me make their money
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I care not who makes the laws
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This is complete bullshit
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This is a fake quote
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If you want to complain about the Rothschilds
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Go ahead, but you better come correct
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Don't use this shit
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Because if you do, that means you're not serious
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You're just looking for any convenient
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Online meme, nonsense
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Posting of fake quotes
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In order to attack these people
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Because they're rich Jews
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That's what's going on here
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It's nuts
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Things that we
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Say right now will
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In a couple of hundred years be
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Used to demonize the Jews
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What do we got?
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I think you and I are fine
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I think we're in the clear, maybe
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No, I reject your premise
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I reject your Jews, see? Done
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That was attributed to you
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26 years after your death
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So, McManus, president of the John
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Bird Society, same game as Alex
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Using fake quotes in order to make their points
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It's an imaginary group of globalists
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That they're super against
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What do you know?
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He does another thing that Alex does all the time
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And it's also fucking stupid
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Most Americans have no idea that the Federal Reserve
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Is a private agency
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It's not a government agency
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You go to Washington, D.C.
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And you pull out that big phone book they have
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And they have blue pages for all the
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Federal agencies
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And the Federal Reserve's not there
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It's not a federal agency
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So that's stupid. First of all, we already know
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That that's bullshit, the idea of the Federal
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Reserve being a private business
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Then, secondarily, he's like
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You look it up in the blue pages, it's not there
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I love that the evidence
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Is so silly. It's always silly
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This was 2009
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It's always silly
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Who uses phone books in 2009?
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You can look it up in the blue pages
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What the fuck?
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You can't find the phone number
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You look it up in the blue pages
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You can't handle it, dude. Come on
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What the fuck?
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Can't you guys just say that you're racist?
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Can't we not hide behind
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Terrible economic ideas?
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Now that's interesting you bring up racism
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You know why? Because I would
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Imagine that this McManus
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And people in the John Birch Society would probably
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Say that this is just a coincidence
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But there's a whole lot of white supremacist
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Leaders who just happen to have been
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John Birch Society members
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Robert J. Matthews, the founder of the
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Porter, was a member of the John Birch Society
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Tom Metzger, the head of the White
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Aryan Resistance, he was a member of the
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John Birch Society. William Luther
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Pierce, founder of the National Alliance
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Was a member of the John Birch Society
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Thomas Robb, who would go on to
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Be the national director of the Knights of the
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Klu Klux Klan, was a member of the
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John Birch Society. That's only four, that's not
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A pattern. But these are
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Not Robb, not Thomas Robb who just
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Became the national director. The rest of those
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Dudes founded important
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Fucking white supremacist groups
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Tom Metzger is a huge deal
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In neo-Nazi white supremacist communities
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The National Alliance is a
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Huge group. The Order is a very
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Relevant white supremacist groups
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These aren't just groups like
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Maybe some group you never heard of
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Some piddling racist group
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That are just daughters around
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These are legit
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Fucking supremacist groups
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It's like, look, you guys are fucking racist
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At least just don't get in the way of universal
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Basic income. Like, why do you gotta
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Do that? Why do you gotta mix them together?
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Communist plot. Oh, fair enough.
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And being against racism is a
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Communist plot. Oh, that sounds right.
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So, um
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They did kind of say that
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That the communists want to
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Incite a race war, so
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If you are against
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Racism, if you are fighting for civil rights
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Right. That's a communist plot.
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In order to start a race war. Right.
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So you should remain
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In a, quote,
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Separate but equal society
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Otherwise the communists win.
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Yeah. It seems like that would be
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Their argument, which seems
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Convoluted. I'm guessing that
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The precursors to the John Birch
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Society would be
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Pro-slavery
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I'm guessing that the precursors to those guys
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Would be pro-colonialism
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I'm guessing that it's almost
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Like it's white people trying to defend
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All of their fucking actions. You don't even
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Have to go to precursors. Like early
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John Birch Society literature was
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Specifically anti-anti-colonialists.
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They were
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Pro-colonialists. Right. They made the
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Argument that in these places that
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White people had colonized, they were
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Giving these people a great life there.
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They always argue that. That was a whole thing.
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These people who make arguments
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Against colonialist efforts
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They are also communist
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Agitators. Right. So you don't even have to
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Go to their precursors. Like if
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Slavery was on the ballot
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They would be for it probably. Yeah. Oh absolutely.
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I don't see how
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I'm surprised they weren't on the
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Let's bring slavery back tip. They kind of were.
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They mostly supported George
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Wallace. Okay. Okay. Alright. Great.
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They were pro-segregation
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They were pro- all of this shit.
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You don't have to
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Go to their precursors. These
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People were it.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Now we've seen
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A very short amount of time
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That he's been on the show. We have
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Him, McManus
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Using a fake quote to demonize the Rothschilds
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We have him
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Making the exact same stupid argument
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That Alex makes about the Federal Reserve
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In order to bolster his idea
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Of the globalists. And now
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The two of them just get into a little conversation
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About Alan Greenspan and I think
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You can get the sense that these two guys
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Agree on almost everything.
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Did you see the clip
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On the news hour
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With former Fed Chairman
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Alan Greenspan
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When he said, look
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The President, the legislative
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The Congress, no one can even
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Question us or look at us
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Because he was asked what's your relationship to the government
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And he said there is none. We are
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A quote separate agency
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And are non-reviewable
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So I mean we know our Constitution
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We know our Bill of Rights. We know the separation of powers
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It's all three branches doing each other. You really don't.
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Tying down dominant men
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And just here is this private Federal Reserve
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Dancing around in public
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Arrogantly saying
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We're not only secret
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And you can't audit us. No agency
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Of government can even look at us
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And we're going to set up a new bank of the world
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That you pay your taxes to
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I mean this is just
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Tyranny. It's tyranny.
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Absolutely. It's absolutely wrong.
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The idea for it came from
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The Communist Manifesto
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Plank number five. Sounds right.
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That's in Alex's documentary.
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Sounds right. That's in the Obama deception.
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Came out of the...
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President of John Birch Society is finishing
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Alex's sentences and then not only
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That butting, adding in
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Another thing that Alex talks about. This is a
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Communist plot. Oh my God.
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You guys all believe the same stupid shit
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That everything is a Communist plot.
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Cool. Alright. Here's my new pitch.
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We send
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Lin-Manuel Miranda an email
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And we see if he
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Is willing to write
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A kick-ass musical
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About the auditing of the Fed.
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That'd be so boring.
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No way! It would be so boring.
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You got Bernie singing? Come on.
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Bernie and Ron Paul doing
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Sweet duets to each other?
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That'd be great.
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The big piece de resistance
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Is a solo song that Ron Paul
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Does about
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Wait till you meet my son
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He's like me but weirder
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My brother's
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Crazy
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I love him
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He thinks not so
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Bullshit
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That's in the beginning of the
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Play, or the musical as it were.
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Just a
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Breakdown of Ron Paul's feeling
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About his family. That'd be great.
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I'd love it.
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I'm gonna veto sending that email if you don't mind.
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Are you sure? Yeah.
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But I'm not going to veto
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Us getting into this next clip
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Where... That was a great
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Transition. Thank you.
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Alex asks McManus about
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His feelings about the Obama deception.
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And his review is interesting.
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I tried to give you a copy of the
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Obama deception when you got here but somebody had gotten you
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One of the internet burn copies which we appreciate.
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But we've given you a copy now.
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I don't really know what your review of it is
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So this will be virgin ground for me here.
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But what is your take on the
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Obama deception? Well there's a lot of good information
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In there. There's a lot of information the American people
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Need to know. Overstuffed and unfocused.
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I don't think they ever did.
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I watched it on a little thing I have
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On a plane ride and I watched it on
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That and of course I wasn't taking notes or anything
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I was just... So I want to go back and study
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It some more. You didn't watch it.
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There's an awful lot in there
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That the American people need to know about
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Name one thing. It was now in the White House.
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Name one thing. What we attempt to do is what you guys have always done.
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See that's kind of what I do.
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Name one thing. That's kind of the
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You know when someone is like
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You watch my comedy special or something
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Yeah a lot of great stuff. I loved that one bit.
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Super funny. Real good.
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That's the response you give
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When you didn't watch the thing.
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Nah nah nah. Yeah a lot of important
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Stuff for Americans to know.
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I didn't take notes.
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I was on a plane. I had a little thing
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On a plane. I was watching it.
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I didn't take notes man. But yeah it's important.
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Americans need to watch it. Go fuck yourself.
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Go fuck yourself John Bircher.
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So I want to make this clear.
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Throughout the time that we've been doing
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This show I've not been
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Unaware that Alex is influenced
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By the John Birch Society quite heavily.
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There's never really been a good time to
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Talk about it. Because he doesn't bring them up
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Ever really. He maybe
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Brings up the Birch Society in passing.
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Like he'll make the claim that
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His dad had some friends
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Who were into the Birch Society when he was a child.
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Or something like that. He'll make that kind of
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Claim. And that's not a good jumping off point
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To talk about how overlapped
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These worlds are. But because he has
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The president of it on, now we get
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To talk about all this stuff. A little bit.
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And so I know that
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We're looking at this and being like
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Oh look at all these parallels.
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This isn't necessarily news.
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It's just we have
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It in now. Right. So
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One thing you need to recognize
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Is that everything that the John
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Birch Society believes, Alex also
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Believes. He doesn't talk about it
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Because he knows that the connotation with saying
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That you're a bircher means that you're crazy.
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The John Birch Society spends a lot
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Of its present day effort fighting the same
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Commie ghosts that Alex does.
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The US sovereignty being under attack.
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Fears about the North American Union.
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Agenda 21. The one world
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Currency. The evils of the UN.
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Fluoride in the water. Global warming
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Being a hoax about
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Bringing it in carbon taxes.
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Homeschooling being under attack.
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George Soros being evil.
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Right. Everything all the way
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Down to communism being a satanic system
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That's fundamentally incompatible with
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Christianity. The smart money
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Says that Alex generally doesn't talk about
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His ancestors
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Intellectually being the John Birch Society
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Because in 2009
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He knows that they chose Glenn
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Beck. Ooooh.
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Oh
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Oh shoot. This is where
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Things get really important.
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Fred Koch was a founding member
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Of the John Birch Society.
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Through FreedomWorks, Americans
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For Prosperity, and the Donor Fund
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His children
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Paid for the rise
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Of the Tea Party to happen.
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This is not like some conspiracy
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Theory we're making up. No no no
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They did. This is all very well documented.
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Yep. So
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You have the founding member
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Of the John Birch Society
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That believes X.
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Years later you have his children
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Paying for the Tea Party that
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Believes X. It's
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Hard to think that's a coincidence.
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Nah. Come on.
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They're just billionaires. The public face
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One of the main ones of the
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Tea Party that was being funded
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By FreedomWorks very clearly
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It's been proven
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Was Glenn Beck. He was making tons of money
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From FreedomWorks.
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The Koch-funded FreedomWorks.
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It's almost impossible
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To not look at that and be like
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Alex Jones probably knows about that back then.
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He probably knows that, yes, absolutely.
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The forces that brought about the
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John Birch Society and have brought about
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The Tea Party, they chose their horse.
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And it's not him.
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It's Glenn Beck.
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So I think that's why he
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So part of it is just
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Base level pettiness. Sure. But I also
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Think having the president of it on here
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It may be signaling that he
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Wants... He's trying to get in.
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He's trying to get some of that sweet, sweet
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Cash. Yeah. I gotcha.
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Not to say that
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He wouldn't kiss his ass anyway
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But I think that this is a
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Significant overture
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Of I want in on
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What you guys are doing.
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Which is the Tea Party.
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I think that this is a major turning point.
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And Alex, you'll see
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Does he have a money bomb in
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Three weeks? I don't know.
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I do know that in the course of this interview
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Alex changes a couple of his positions
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That we've seen
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Very clearly
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And here's the first one
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And I think it's major
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This is after a conversation about
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The AIG bailout
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And that's only one of many globalist
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Organizations and there's no discussion
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Of the franchise owner
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Of the big billionaire
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George Soros, David Rockefeller
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Rothschild types who are actually
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Getting the money from the bailout
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Meanwhile they divert everybody with
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Oh look at these CEOs who work for them
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As you said getting a pittance
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A tiny fraction
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Of the real money
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George Soros was a target of
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Glenn Beck's. Probably because
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The John Birch Society
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Was already on the Soros tip
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At this point. Alex knows
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That. At no point in anything
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That we've listened to up till this point
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Has Alex listed Soros
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Along with Rockefeller and
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The Rothschilds
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It's always, he's mentioned him
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Twice, perhaps
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And it's always just been in the sense like
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This guy's rich, he's an asshole
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Or something like that
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It's never been the
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Soros, Rothschild, Rockefeller
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Combine these, this class
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Of people
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That is big. That's a major thing
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And the fact that it's happening in the middle of an interview
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With the president of the John Birch Society
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I refuse to believe that that's a coincidence
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He's trying to impress him
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Oh yeah. That's what I take away from that
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Jesus. This is
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This is kiss-assing
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On a stupid
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Level. This is a bummer
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I don't know what to make of it, but
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I don't like Alex supplicating himself to dumber people
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Or well, the same dumb people
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It's not our ball game
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To pretend that we know what's going to happen
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Or anything like that. All we can do is
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Read the situation
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Based on the awareness that we have
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Of where Alex goes in the future
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And what he has been in the past
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But I see that as like
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Almost a moment of
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Yeah, I mean, calling it supplication
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It feels a lot like that
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It feels like I'm going to
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I'm going to have you on my show
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I'm going to demonstrate how much we agree
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About almost everything
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With each other, and I'm going to say
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Things that I haven't said in the past
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In order to be more
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In line with you, with the hopes
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That I get some of that sweet, sweet money
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That comes
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Oh man, he's groveling
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It's not groveling, because I think they're having a great time
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I think that
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There's a lot of stuff that I haven't
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Included just because there's like
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15 minutes of them agreeing about everything
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In non-specific ways
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Compelling radio
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It doesn't do us any good
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To go over it, but
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I think that what we see here is
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Angling
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Quite a bit
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And get this
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I think that this next clip even further demonstrates that
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But the people are saying
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Oh, okay, at least they're doing something right
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No, they're not doing something right
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First of all, if a company wants to give somebody a bonus
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It's none of the government's business
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That's right, that's right
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That's another principle
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That's right, it sets the precedent to come in and regulate
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Every facet of the economy, and now that's the new power
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Alex
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In the Obama deception
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Made a huge point of complaining
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About the idea that these banks
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Used bailout money to give people bonuses
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Yep
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Days prior to this, he was screaming about the idea
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Of giving people bonuses
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He has the John Birch Society president on his show
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He's like, hey, who cares if they're giving people bonuses
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Alex is like, absolutely
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And it sets the precedent to
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That's a direct contradiction
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Of the Obama deception
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And his stated position
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Within days of this episode
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That's fast
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That's crazy how little his principles matter
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That's quick
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That's nuts
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When I heard that, I was just like, Alex, you pathetic sack of shit
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What are you doing?
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Yeah, oh, it's great that they're giving people bonuses
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Businesses right to choose to do that
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Fuck you
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Does he get money?
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He better get some money for that, right?
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If you sell out your principles that hard
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You should at least get, like, a stipend
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I mean, we can't confirm anything yet
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And as we learned on the last episode
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Our guts are psychics
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That's true, fair enough
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I think Occam's Razor tells me
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That that is
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I think that
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Yes, I think he starts to get money
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And it's hidden through various ways
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I think that that's the case
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But for us to make that sort of declaration
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It would take a lot more proof
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And we don't have that yet
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But maybe we will eventually
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And maybe we're wrong, who knows
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I'm the guy who wants to impress
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The John Birch Society president
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Who clearly has ties to organizations
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That are funding the rise of the Tea Party
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Which is just a resurgence of
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John Birch Society philosophy
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And in terms of crazy right-wing ding-dongs
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Have already chosen their horses
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And that's Hannity and Glenn Beck
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And Alex Jones is left out in the cold
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At least at this point
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So that's all I got to go on
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And I know that that status quo
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Doesn't stay that way
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It's such a bummer
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I clearly did not know
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I didn't know
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That much about the John Birch Society
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But now what I really know
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Is that everything that they
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Say as dot dot dot
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Because we don't like non-white people
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Or, I mean, they would say
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Communists
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Sure, fine, whatever
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Historically, we've seen that happen a lot
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So now we enter a number of clips where
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It's just clear that the two of them agree
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On pretty much everything
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And Alex Jones' narratives
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Probably come from some version
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Of reading John Birch Society
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Talking points
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Can you speak to the phony carbon taxes
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And the environmental movement
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What that's really about
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Because you've exposed that
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Well, first of all, global warming is a charade
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In my view
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Yes, temperatures go up and temperatures go down
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God, I hope you die in a forest fire
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It's not caused by you or me driving an automobile
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But the whole global warming thing
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Is a charade, a farce
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And what it's designed to do
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Is to give government more power
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Once again, you see the same thing
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I thought it was to save the coral reefs
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But okay
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They have to have carbon taxes
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To shut down more of America's industrial power
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So he exposed
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That this is all about carbon taxes
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Alex is in that clip
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Even giving
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McManus and the John Birch Society credit
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They're just trying to get carbon taxes
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Which is
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Alex Jones' stated position on it
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He's giving
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Again, it's even more supplication
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I only know this because you exposed it
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There's no way
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That they would have that belief
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I mean, it's not like
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A carbon tax would
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Adversely affect some
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Massive energy corporation
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That's funding the John Birch Society
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Wait a second
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That wouldn't possibly be
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That would be a conflict of interest, Dan
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These guys are non-partisan
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Trying to break the left-right paradigm, Dan
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Hey Jordan, here's the thing
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You might be saying that
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The Koch brothers and their foundations
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Have been known to pay climate deniers
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And also the
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Fossil fuel industry and big tobacco
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Have been known to pay people
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To muddy the waters about climate change
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And that sort of thing
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Over time, you're a fool
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That's just because they know
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That that's the truth and they want
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The truth getting out there
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And the truth is that carbon dioxide is great
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And the United States is going to have to pay
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Taxes in order to continue doing any
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Industrial activity
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In order to solve a problem that's not
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Going to be solved by cutting back
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On carbon
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Carbon dioxide is wonderful
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Carbon dioxide is something that all plants eat
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You want carbon dioxide
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If you have carbon dioxide, you're going to have
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Better trees, better bushes, better crops
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Better everything
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And it's just bonkers
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Everything is backwards
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And we've got all kinds of experts out there
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We've got these experts in the economic field
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And experts in the
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So-called environmental field
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People like Al Gore
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If he's an expert, I'm a Martian
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But I'm going with my gut on this one, Dan
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I know all these fucking scientists
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Who've spent all of their lives
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Studying this shit
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Nonsense, but that's all part of the communist plot
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Me, I don't know
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Anything
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I don't even know how carbon dioxide works
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I don't know how the environment works
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I don't know anything about anything
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Listen to me talk
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I just said, carbon dioxide is great
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I was in the army and then
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I've been involved in the John Birch Society
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For forty years, I am an expert
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I have all the information
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My gut says
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That everyone is
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Wrong but me
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But this is the stupid
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You just saw
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An articulation
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Of the stupid talking point that all of these people
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Who get money from these
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Special interest groups
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Put out
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And it is this idea of
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Carbon dioxide is good, it feeds trees
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Yes, no one is saying get rid of all
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Carbon dioxide
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The issue is about excess carbon dioxide
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That has been put into the atmosphere
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And we can track since the beginning
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Of what, the industrial revolution?
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The science is very
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Clear about that stuff
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But when you muddy the waters and you're like
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Plants needed to grow and stuff
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You're trying to get rid of plants
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That sort of thing, you appeal to really stupid people
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Who don't understand what the topic that's being discussed
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Is and that is a tactic that is very
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Specifically done by these people
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Whose bottom lines would be hurt
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By making progress
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Towards saving
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And protecting the environment
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So I'm sure they're against deforestation, right?
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Because they want carbon dioxide to feed trees
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They care so much about trees and plants
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Carbon dioxide is great
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I'm guessing that they're mad about the rainforest
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Dying
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Or being destroyed
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That doesn't come up, but if I had to guess
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I think you know what I'd say
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Oh, so they
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No, no, no, but they can't possibly
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Before cutting down trees
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Because they know
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As I previously said
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That trees need carbon dioxide to live
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So if they cut down trees
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Then there might be too much carbon dioxide
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I think their position is very much like that movie
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Medicine Man starring Sean Connery
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Okay
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Which is chop down the forest
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And if that's not the point of that movie
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Their point is that that movie was terrible
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So chop down the forest as a punishment
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As a punishment for making that movie
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I watched that movie when I was eight
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Don't remember what it was about
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It was about a man
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Or perhaps a man made of medicine
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I think it's about how there's something in a rainforest
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That's required to make a medicine
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And people are chopping down the forest
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And they gotta protect the forest
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I don't remember
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Maybe I should rewatch it
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Maybe not
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No, Highlander 2, do not watch
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Does not make any sense
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You go to space
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So in this next clip
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We see that the two of them
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And McManus
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Both have the same sort of stakes
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That they're applying to the idea of what happens
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If the globalists win
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What will the new world order look like
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When they finally put the capstone on the pyramid
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Well first of all, everybody will be a slave to government
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You will be working for government
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If you have a job
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And secondly, I believe that there will be
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A physical extermination
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Of many many millions of people
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They've done it everywhere they've taken over
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They did it in Russia
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They did it in China, they did it in Laos
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They did it in Cambodia
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All the same people
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All of which have
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I would say, notoriously fascist governments
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Have everything to do in common with each other
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But I just want to illustrate there
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That they use the exact same apocalyptic rhetoric
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About what's going to happen
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If our side doesn't prevail
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And that sort of thing
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Which is a hallmark of manipulative fucks
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Our fascism good
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Your fascism bad
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So we have one more clip left
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And I think, although this clocked in
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Shorter than I expected it to
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I kind of thought that this might take a lot longer
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I figured you'd be screaming more
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I mean, this is all very interesting to me
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And whenever, I'm just learning
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I like to learn
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I thought it would take longer
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And that's one of the reasons why I was like
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We don't need to cover the Patrice interview
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I felt like, you know, we can do that
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Next time if we need to
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Or whatever
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The birch meat
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The birch meat, yes
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Would sort of be a lot more
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But I don't mind us having an hour and a half episode
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Or whatever, I don't give a shit
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It just, it confuses me
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Why this is attractive
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To people who are
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Otherwise, like
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I don't understand the radicalization
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Process that you go through in order to get to
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The John Birch Society
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It's the same way that I really don't
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If you're talking about back in the 60s, it makes total sense
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And now, I guess
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The funneling of all of these
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Children and all that stuff through Twitter
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And pushing them all towards
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These white supremacist groups
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I don't understand how you don't
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At any point go
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Okay, I'll look into that
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And then do that
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How do you not do that?
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I've never taken a position that I've just
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Accepted from somebody
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Yeah, I think a lot of it comes down to
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The recipient of the message
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And just circumstances, like if they're in a place
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Where they're really receptive to hear a message
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Right
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Like, you know, I was a really depressed kid
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And church was able to grab me a lot more easily
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Because of that
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I overrode a lot of my rational thinking
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To get into a Southern Baptist fucking church
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Right
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You know, there is a time and place in your life
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When you're most receptive
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To messages that don't necessarily make sense
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And I think that you
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Cast a wide enough net
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Of thousands of cheap paperback books
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All over the place that are your propaganda
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Talons
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Out into the world
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You put out a million books and maybe you get
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75 people that respond to it
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That'd be a terrible batting average
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You put out a thousand books and 50 people respond
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Let's say, that sort of batting average
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And before you know it
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You got a lot of people indoctrinated
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I think that's, you know, you just accept
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It's the same thing with dudes
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But everything they believe is contradicting
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It doesn't make a goddamn
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Bit of sense
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It does if you assume that everything is the communist
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Because then, like especially
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Crypto secret communists
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And things like that, because then you can just
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I mean, you can wiggle your way out of everything
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I just don't understand
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How you can pretend to have a
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Or how you can have a
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Stated belief of
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We are against
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Any kind of control
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Any kind of regulation
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Any kind of anything
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And yet, at the same time
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Your entire stated purpose
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Is to dominate other groups
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I think the
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Only question that I really have
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Is how do you not realize
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That if
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You are, if you are essentially
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Arguing for this like
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Darwinistic survival
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Of the fittest
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Wherein whomever is on top is correct
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By virtue of being on top
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And whoever is lower
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Do you not get
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That it swings both ways
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And eventually
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You will be the lower rung
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It only swings both ways
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If the creeping communist government
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Forces allow the people
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On the bottom to have anything
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Because if they don't have anything
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They'll never get to the point
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Where they're a threat to the pendulum swing
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No, that's not true!
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No! What?
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Do you not remember?
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What?
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The Dominican Republic?
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It was all the government. It was communists.
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No, they overthrew the government!
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Nope, communists. Oh, ok. Damn it!
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I don't know. I can't win!
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Nope. But in the same way that we talked about
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On the last episode, I think the idea of engaging
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With some of these circular beliefs
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Is just quicksand. It's almost
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Not worth it to get in. Whenever you just
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Have people who make up their own version of history
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In order to serve their rhetoric
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It's a trap. It's not important.
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Well, let me write the history
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And I care not who's in government, I guess.
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Sing the ballads. Yeah.
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So lest you think that I wasn't going to go out on a racist note
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God damn it!
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Here is the last clip we have
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Of Alex and the president of the John Birch
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Society having a real fun time.
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Barack Obama
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I mean, this guy is handled
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By the elite, the most elite
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Of the elite. Have you seen his birth
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Certificate yet?
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Isn't that amazing, huh?
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You could put an end to all of this
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Speculation by simply producing a birth certificate.
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He did! And he hasn't done it.
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You could put an end to all of this speculation by
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Not being a racist fuckhead.
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I wonder, I really wonder this.
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I don't know, but I wonder
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If McManus has ever seen
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Fucking George Wallace's
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Birth certificate. Do you demand
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George Wallace's birth certificate?
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I actually would like to see George Wallace's birth certificate.
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I'm just saying, did you?
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No.
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George H.W. Bush?
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Reagan? No. Clinton?
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So, I mean, look.
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What we have here is
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You know what we fucking have here.
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It's interesting to me
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And I think what I will probably
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Need to do is look a lot more
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Into all the specific
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Books that were coming out
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From the John Birch Society back
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In the time that would be relevant for
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Alex's dad to have them in his
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Catalog. Because I guarantee there's a lot more
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We could learn about where Alex's
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Ideas come from when we
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Understand more of what the literature
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That they were distributing back then was.
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It's one thing to say
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He was very inspired
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By Skousen
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And Quigley. And that's absolutely
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True. That's not not true.
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But there's clearly even more
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In there. We can get a more robust picture of it
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With more data points.
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Jesus. I would like to
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I would really like to have talked to
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His dad like when he
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When Alex was growing up. Like I would
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Like to see, not in like a
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Like in a dental chair?
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Yeah.
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You know the government
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Is getting in the way of your teeth.
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I'm telling you
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They're going
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Incisors are a communist
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Plot. That actually is true.
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Wisdom teeth? They don't
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Grant you wisdom. No. But they did
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Before the government mandated
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That you take them out of your head. Well because of all the fluoride
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That runs over them. Exactly. It erodes
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The wisdom. It erodes the wisdom. Absolutely.
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That's science. And they love
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Carbon dioxide. Wisdom teeth
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Love carbon dioxide. I'm not
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I'm not one of these guys who's like, what were you saying?
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But I do want to know what you were thinking when you said
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You wanted to talk to Alex's dad. I would
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Like to know if he, because he's clearly
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Like he has to be
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Even crazier now.
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Yeah. Like I would like to know
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What it was, because this would have been what, the 70s?
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He's the HR director of
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Infowars. He's crazy. He has to be
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Even crazier though. He has to have gotten more
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Radicalized. But like what was
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He like in the 70s and 80s?
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Was he this much of an open
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I think he was obviously a birch-er. Yeah.
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No, for sure. I think 100%
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He was, and I would
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Believe that when Alex tells the story
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Of like, my parents had some friends
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Who were involved in the birch society.
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They were in a birch group of
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Less than 24. And I would guess that
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Maybe they met at Alex's house.
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I wouldn't be too surprised by that
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Or his parents went over to other people's
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Houses and hosted it there or whatever.
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I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that.
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I don't know. Yeah, it would be interesting.
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But yeah, I think
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It is kind of unfortunate
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That at the very
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Birth of their group
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The very birch of their group. Nice.
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Also, that last clip was called
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John Berther Society. Nice.
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Go ahead.
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They
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The guy literally organized it like a
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Terror cell. Yeah. Like
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It can never grow above 24
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So we're harder to detect.
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It's very similar to Louis Beam's leaderless
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Resistance thing that we were talking about. The idea
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Of how these white nationalist cells
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Operated. Yeah, you guys are
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A terrorist organization. Except
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They had a leader. So that isn't
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The same. But yeah, the idea of keeping things small
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To avoid infiltration is obviously
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Very, very consistent
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Throughout Alex's seemingly
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Different worlds. Man.
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Yeah. So can we just
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Finally call these guys terrorists?
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I don't know. I mean, he does have
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A show called Info Wars. Yeah,
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I don't know. I mean, information terrorists
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Yeah, exactly. But like, I don't know.
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I mean, they inspire terrorism. They
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Nurture people's tendency
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Towards terroristic acts. Yep.
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They apologize for white terrorism whenever
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It happens. Not like, hey,
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Sorry about that. They're apologists for it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, I mean
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That would be a, hey, we're the Birch Society
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Sorry about that, guys. Sorry for all the white terrorism
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That's kind of on us. We still think our economic
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Ideas are great. Yeah, we're right about everything
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But sorry about that one, guys. Yeah, yeah, that one's on us.
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Oh, sorry, we maybe had a
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Role in the Aryan resistance
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No, no. It
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Happens. We disavowed
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Any knowledge of that. He's still invited to all
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Of our meetings. We've made it very
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Clear we kick out people when they're overtly
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Crisis. Great, great.
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Good work, guys. Cool. Yeah, I don't know, man.
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I would say
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I'm reticent to
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Label anybody terrorists or anything
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Like that, lest they commit terrorist acts
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But people in this world are terrorist
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Adjacent. Yeah. Anyway,
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This has been the show. We'll be back
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With an episode on Wednesday, but until
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Then, we have a website. It's
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JohnBertSociety.org. No, it is not.
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A lot of important information there I want you guys to read.
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Dan. Yeah, sorry.
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It's not. It's knowledgefight.com.
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We also are
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On Twitter. It's at John Birch Society.
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No, it's not, Dan.
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I don't even know if that's their handle.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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We have a Facebook.
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We're on Facebook. We have a
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Group, go home and tell your mother
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You've joined the John Birch Society. No,
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It's not.
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It's go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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Also, we're on iTunes, so you can
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Leave a review, subscribe, all that good stuff.
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Dan,
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I'll tell you,
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I don't know for sure,
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But I know that the
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John Birch Society has influenced
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A lot of people, but I don't think
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Our boy over here, McManus, has
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Ever actually killed a guy. Interestingly,
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I can't find details on this. It has nothing
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To do with murder. Oh no, he did kill a guy?
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It doesn't have to do with murder, but
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I just want to tell this a little
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It's murder adjacent?
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A little bit, sort of. So,
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The first president of the John Birch Society
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Was Robert Welsh, the guy who
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Was the candy impresario.
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Right, right, right. Again, I don't like
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That being true, but fine. When he stepped down,
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He got replaced by a guy who served as
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President for less than a year, because he was
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In a plane that got shot down by the Soviets.
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Really? Yeah, so he died.
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And I think that... So he actually legitimized
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The whole communist plot in the first place.
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That's unfortunate.
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Then, Welsh had to come back as
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President of the John Birch Society.
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He came back out of retirement.
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We got one last job.
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I'm getting too old for this shit.
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I'm just eating my junior mints over here.
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And then when this McManus guy took over,
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I couldn't find details about this, but apparently
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It was a bit of a coup in the organization.
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It's described
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In multiple places where I read about it
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As sort of almost a hostile takeover
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Of the John Birch Society, and has been the
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President for many years. So McManus
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Politically killed a guy.
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Yeah, let's say that. But Alex Jones
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Technically, probably
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Actually killed a guy.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
