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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We're a couple dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan?

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Yes sir.

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Dan.

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Hey.

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When was the last time you went to a hospital?

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Last time I went to a hospital, long time, unless you count the blood place.

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The blood bank.

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That is not a hospital.

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Yeah, I mean, there's phlebotomists, there's a nurse, there's one nurse.

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I don't even know if it's clean enough to be...

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No comment.

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Yeah, there we go.

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No, it's been a long time, I guess, mostly therapists' offices, generally not in hospitals.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Throughout my life.

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I mean, I guess urgent care centers I've been to.

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I've been like, you know, any time I've gotten sick, or needed to go to the doctor, I just go to an urgent care center.

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Have you ever stayed overnight?

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Yeah, like way back, way back.

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For what?

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Like, I broke my arm once, like really late at night, and I ended up having to stay in the hospital overnight for that.

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And then also, of course, like...

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Wait, wait, wait, you're just gonna throw that out?

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I broke my arm late at night, and there's no story behind that?

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It was just 10.30, and you were getting some popcorn, and you tripped?

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As far as I recall, and I have very vague memories of this, because I was really young,

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me and my brother had a bunk bed, and I fell off the top bunk.

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Ah, okay.

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And I broke my arm, like, basically in the middle of the night, and I needed to stay in the hospital overnight.

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And then, of course, there's been, like, times I've gone to a mental hospital and stayed overnight.

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Well, yeah, but that's just an... occupational hazard.

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In terms of physical need to stay in the hospital overnight, I think that was it.

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Yeah, I think that's it. Cool?

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Yeah. Moving on.

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This has been my medical history.

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This is a podcast about... what do we do again?

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My medical history, and also Alex Jones. I know a lot about him.

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Maybe because I've been to mental hospitals in my life.

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At the same time, you don't know too much about your medical history,

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which is about where I am when it comes to knowing about Alex Jones.

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Bingo, Jordan.

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So today we've got an interesting episode to go over, but before we get there,

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I'd like to say thank you to a couple of new folks who have joined up in supporting the show,

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and we appreciate them oh so much.

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First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much.

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Aaron, you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Aaron.

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Thank you very much, Aaron.

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Also, I'd like to say thank you to someone who has just joined up as well.

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Thank you so much, Nick. You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Nick.

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If you yourself out there are listening and you'd like to support the show,

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you can do so by going to our website, knowledgeflight.com,

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kicking that support the show button up at the top,

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and you can become a policy wonk yourself.

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Big announcement.

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Did we make it?

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We have reached our documentary goal.

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Oh, no. I told you guys. 99% of the way there.

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Thanks to Raptor Princess and gentleman friend of the show,

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John in Austin.

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He threw in a bit and kicked us over that line.

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John, come on, man. You've already done so fucking much.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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But also, Jordan, I think you should not be thanking him

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because now you're going to have to do a documentary with us.

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You know what? I lived through the first one.

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Yep, and it's fitting.

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It's almost six months later now.

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Around six months later, I think a little bit more than that.

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I'm not sure. I think we did the last one in April.

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Anyway, I think we'll start soon,

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but we still need to firmly, concretely decide

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which documentary it's going to be.

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It looks like the Obama deception,

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but I want to make totally sure.

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You want to give every possible opportunity

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for the audience to say not the Obama deception.

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It's essentially what you're about to say, right?

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More or less.

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And not because I want to protect Obama

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or anything like that.

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I just don't know.

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I don't know if I want to do that documentary.

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All right, all right. We'll find out.

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But we'll see.

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If the audience determines that that's what we're doing,

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then that's what we're doing.

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That's what we're doing.

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And hopefully, I would like to say

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we'll start putting those out at the beginning of November.

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I'd like to say that, but...

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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Schedule constraints may come into play,

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so we'll, you know, who knows how in-depth

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some of my research will end up getting to.

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So, like, hopefully, November.

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It could happen.

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If not, then mid to late November, for sure.

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And if not, early December.

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The next year. Who knows?

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But maybe January.

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Who knows?

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Who knows what the secret of 2019 is, Dan?

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It could be that Obama finally did deceive us.

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And maybe Kelly is the key.

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There we go.

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We always knew that was the case.

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So thank you all very much for forcing us into this position.

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But we will be sure to get that for you real soon.

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Yeah.

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So, Jordan, would I want to...

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Or not!

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We can only waffle so much.

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I think we've reached our waffle limit for the day.

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Jordan, today, what I wanted to do is,

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earlier in the week I said that I was working on the 2009 stuff,

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and that by the end of the week the cake would probably be baked.

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Yeah.

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Cake is not baked.

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Oh, no.

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It is not settled.

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All right.

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And so I can't...

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I got to put a pin in 2009 until next week, probably.

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And so I thought, why not?

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Everybody likes us to check in on present day.

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Alex Jones likes to see what he's up to.

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So why not?

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Why not check in on present day Alex Jones?

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Let's see what happens.

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There's a lot going on in the world.

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Yeah.

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You don't want to have those British people tell you that it wasn't a good sponge.

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No.

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Yeah.

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There is a lot of stuff going on in the world.

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We have chaos all over the place.

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It's literally every single moment there's a new facet of the chaos.

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Or new wrinkles to already existing chaos,

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be it the deteriorating evolving story out of Saudi Arabia.

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Oh, man.

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That's great.

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We have scientists giving dire warnings.

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What are you going to do?

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Things coming out about investigations into Trump's family business history of fraud.

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Mitch McConnell.

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Defrauding foreign countries in terms of...

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Oh, hey.

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Who has it?

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Who has it?

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Sure.

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All of this stuff is going on.

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It's crazy Stephen King, Steve King in Iowa coming out in favor of a fellow white supremacist

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Faith Golding.

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Nazis aren't that bad.

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We have Gavin McGinnis going out there with his sword trying to start fights in New York.

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According to Fox News, it's our fault.

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So we've got all this stuff.

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Yeah.

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And Mitch McConnell fulfilling the prophecy that I gave six months ago wherein I said

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that these fucking tax cuts are a way for them to actually attack Social Security and

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Medicare.

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And who do you know?

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Guess what?

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Mitch McConnell comes out and says the problem with the deficit is entitlement programs.

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No shit.

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No shit.

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Of course.

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He's like, I don't want to learn from your predictive abilities, but that's one of those

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like, come on.

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That's the most obvious prediction anyone has ever made.

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It was sound, but pretty clear.

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It was easy.

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You didn't need a Carrie Cassidy style dream to help you see that future.

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I did need an Alex Jones style dream.

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It lasted about six hours.

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There were a lot of fires and in 95% of the situations, two to three billion people die

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because of Mitch McConnell.

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Yeah.

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So there's a lot going on in the world today.

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I was like, I wonder if Alex has got a take on any of it.

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Here is an out of context drop from today's show.

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Is he finally going to get some fat bears?

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I ain't saying she's a gold digger.

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God damn.

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She ain't messing with no you-know-what.

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She ain't messing with no poor man.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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All right.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Wonderful.

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Wonderful.

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Now that Kanye has met with Trump in his Make America Great hat, Alex has adopted Kanye's

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music as bumper music.

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Love Kanye.

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Love Kanye.

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He's still playing his second worst album, but fine.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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I would argue that Alex is kind of forgetting that that's not just Kanye.

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That's also Alex Jones's enemy, Jamie Foxx, on that song.

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So it's a little bit of six to one half dozen of the other kind of situation.

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Also, I like his self-censoring.

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That seemed forced.

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Oh, man.

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It would have been nice if he just fucking went for it.

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Just do it.

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I'm glad he didn't.

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You have your best bet at getting away with it, saying that you're quoting it.

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You want to say the word, just find a way to say it, man.

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At this point, I don't feel like there'd be too many consequences for him, which is kind

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of a bummer.

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No, everybody's there.

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So like I said up top, Jordan, there's a lot going on in the world today.

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So you would think, you would think that the lead story that Alex comes out the gate with

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would be something hot, something real important to geopolitics.

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Of course.

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20 days, 20 days, and the tidal wave of total censorship has gone into insane overdrive.

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Unbelievable information coming up.

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Facebook, Twitter, you name it, are banning tens of thousands of pages of anyone that

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promotes the MPC memes, which simply takes a gray face and puts it over the face of conformist

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authoritarian leftist thinkers.

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And THX 1138, it's really a remake of the idea of a Brave New World, a scientific dictatorship.

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They resemble MPC memes.

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Cool, man.

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I would say half of this show is about the MPC memes.

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You're not on social media, so you're probably not even aware of this.

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That's our big deal?

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Oh, this is the biggest deal in the world, my friend.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Right now.

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This current world we live in right now.

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MPC memes.

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Memes are the biggest deal.

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Memes.

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Number one story.

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Memes.

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All right.

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All right.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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You know what?

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That's fine.

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Fine.

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I don't care.

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I don't care.

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So this is nothing matters anymore.

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This is a new right wing meme thing where they're putting these gray faces on like oftentimes

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it'll be someone's actual Twitter avatar and they'll create like a false version of them.

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And then also there's other ones that are just MPC 1735 and they all are basically doing

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an impression of people on the left trying to parody the idea that there's groupthink

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and everybody's saying the exact same things like they're non-playable characters in a

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video game who just repeat dialogue when you walk up to them.

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If I know anything about the right wing, this meme is hilarious because nobody lands a joke

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quite like the right wing.

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So funny.

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That's why so many amazing comedians are never becoming famous, overlooked, and then they

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become right wing comedies.

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It's crazy.

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Sure.

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I mean, you got Nick DePaulo.

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Hey.

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The list goes on.

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It is endless.

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You got the, what's his name?

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Nick DePaulo.

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Okay.

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But who's number two?

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It's Nick DePaulo.

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Okay.

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What about, okay.

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He's also a guy who was like, I don't think that Nick DePaulo's not not funny.

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He has his moments.

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He has some good bits, but also he was relevant 25 years ago.

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Oh, Dennis Miller.

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All right.

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All right.

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We nailed it.

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Rob Schneider.

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Wait.

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Is he on the right?

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Oh yeah.

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Is he a conservative dude?

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He's crazy conservative.

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Lost track of Rob.

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It's whackadoo.

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How could you lose track of Rob Schneider?

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I think he was out making copies and I lost track of him.

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Still relevant to today's office culture.

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Still relevant to today's office culture.

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Making copies.

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Oh, the Sting Meister, et cetera.

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So look, this NPC meme thing, I just sort of ignored it when it was sort of popping

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around and people were tweeting about it.

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I was like, well, right, this is just some more right wing bullshit.

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Who gives a shit?

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Because it's basically, if you really look at the core of it, it's just like a visual

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way of them saying sheeple.

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They've just figured out a new way to articulate this idea that they've had all along and they're

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acting like it's new.

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It's brand new.

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They put a gray spot on faces.

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The other side of it too that should be like horribly apparent to anybody who travels in

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or listens to any of the diverse voices on the left, what you know is that basically

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you just have a bunch of people in places like Reddit, 4chan.

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These sorts of places where they just are their own echo chambers, where they've created

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this image in their head of what social justice warriors are.

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So they've created that image and then they're pretending that that's what everybody sounds

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like and now they're creating a parody of this false version of the other side that

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they've created in their head.

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Are you saying that rather than engage with the reality they've created a thing, a facsimile

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of a human out of some sort of a...

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Like a hay?

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A hay dude?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like a hay...

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Like a hay dude.

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Yeah, like a hay dude.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yippee ki yay.

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Yeah.

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What was the name of that?

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Like a hay Arnold.

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Like a hay dude on Nickelodeon.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And he salutes shorts, I guess.

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I don't know.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Donkey lips.

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So, look, I don't have a lot of feelings about this here NPC meme.

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I really don't.

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I don't care about it.

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I understand one of the reasons that Twitter is like cracking down and getting rid of some

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of these accounts is that they are targeted harassment to a certain extent.

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If you put this gray thing over someone's face and you're pretending that you're them,

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sure, I think on one level that constitutes parody, but I also could see a way that it

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could be targeted harassment.

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So I don't...

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You know, I see both sides of this.

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I think this is up to Twitter to make the decision and live with it.

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You know, choose whatever stake you want to make in it.

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We'll see how the chips fall.

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I don't advocate them banning all of them, but I also don't think it's wrong of them

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to.

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Don't care at all.

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No, I think...

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That's my position firmly on this.

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I'm going to go with pass.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Dan, I don't know if you know this, but there might be a couple other things going on right

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now.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's that we keep coming...

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When we go back to a bunch, is that like that idea of in life you kind of got to do triage

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a little bit.

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Yeah, maybe a little bit.

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And sometimes you may just have to punt.

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And I'm punting on this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So at the end of that...

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Now, if the Saudi prince had tweeted out any NPC means, then we're in a whole different

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scenario.

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That's a different conversation.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So at the end there, Alex is like, this is like how there were gray faces in THX 1138.

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Yeah, which was, I believe, the studio that produced the sound for Lucasfilm.

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No, no, that's interesting.

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It was actually one of the roots of that, though.

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Because the guy who did the sound for that, for a lot of Lucas's films and stuff, he collaborated

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with George Lucas on THX 1138, which is basically...

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A futuristic robot that came back in time to kill John Connor?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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He always talks about it in the same breath as like Brave New World in 1984.

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He seems to act like it's like the globalist model for the future, and it's basically prophecy.

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What he refuses to bring up is that it was basically just a student film made by George

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Lucas when he was at USC.

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Oh, okay.

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It was...

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The original version was a student film, and then he got funding for it and made it.

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It was his first directorial film.

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Yeah, the working title was American THX Graffiti, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Alex very correctly notes the parallels to Brave New World in 1984 that exist in THX

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1138, because they're absolutely there.

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Lucas was a goddamn college student in the late 60s in Southern California.

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No shit he's inspired by dystopian fiction.

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Ah, come on.

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One review that I read was that THX 1138 is basically 1984 without the philosophy if you

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borrowed Soma from Brave New World.

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That's sort of the bouillabaisse that they're making.

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It's the stew.

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This makes sense because Lucas wasn't good at making things yet.

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He was a young artist.

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Also, the end of the movie is clearly stolen from Plato's Allegory of the Cave, less from

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1984 Brave New World.

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At the end of the film, the main character, the titular THX, is outrunning some police

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drones and then they let him get away because they're over budget.

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Oh, that sounds right.

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They let him escape, which leads me to believe it's not that big of a priority for him to

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be stopped from escaping, and then he ends up getting to the above ground and realizes

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there's birds up there and he's been lied to the whole time, much like the Allegory

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of the Cave.

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That's very derivative work, much like a lot of George Lucas' work that he argued to be.

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Hey, now.

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Hold on.

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But...

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Kurosawa would dis- While we're talking about this movie really quick, just because Alex

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brought it up and I think it was fun and I looked into it a little bit, if you take out

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some of the more purely aesthetic stylistic touches, which are the things that Alex really

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gets caught up on, like the idea that everyone's bald, everyone shaves their head, that sort

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of stuff, if you really get rid of some of those things, the movie really contains two

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central ideas about state control.

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One is forced drugging of people and instilling the mentality that the economy and money are

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more important than people's humanity.

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Since Donald Trump, Alex's favorite politician has been in office.

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There have been many reports of ICE agents and independent contractors forcibly medicating

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immigrant children that have been separated from their families in order to make them

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more pliable and manageable.

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No idea what you're talking about.

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This is a direct result of and done with the approval of the Trump administration.

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Can't trust the media.

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Last week, responding to the grisly murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a non-citizen resident

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of the United States and journalist for the Washington Post that appears to have been

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carried out by Saudi Arabia, Alex's favorite politician, Donald Trump, said, quote, they're

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spending $110 billion on military equipment and on things that create jobs for this country.

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I don't like the concept of stopping an investment of $110 billion into the United States because

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you know they're going to take that money and spend it in Russia or China or someplace

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else.

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That's almost the literal definition of putting money in the supposed economy over someone's

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humanity.

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No idea what you're talking about.

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Now, just to be petty, it should be pointed out that Trump's excuse about jobs and the

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economy is a lie.

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From Vox, quote, overall, the private U.S. defense industry does directly employ a lot

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of U.S. workers, about 355,500 in 2016, according to the most recent estimates from the Aerospace

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Industries Association.

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But private sector defense workers make up less than 0.5% of the total U.S. labor force.

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And that includes every person whose job depends directly on the sale or production of airplanes,

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tanks, bombs and services for the entire U.S. military.

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It's unlikely that many of them, if any, depend directly on weapons sales to Saudi Arabia.

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And it's also unlikely that these jobs advantage if Saudi money disappeared.

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So you're saying that the United States government is lying in defense of an indefensible idea

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already?

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At least one guy is.

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I cannot imagine any historical parallel wherein the entire U.S. government begins lying in

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order to support a bad decision in the first place, one that I suppose puts us into I would

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call it eternal war.

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That would never happen.

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Well, it's interesting, too, because this 110 billion dollar number is not reflective

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of contracts or actual deals.

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If you really look into it, it involves a convoluted mishmash of letters of intent,

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letters of interest, but definitely nothing really binding.

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At least the true number of how much is coming in from these deals.

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It's unclear, but it is definitely lower than one hundred and ten billion dollars.

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All right.

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So even the lie in support of the bad argument that is indefensible is built around another

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lie, at least embellishment, probably outright lie.

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OK.

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This is also probably a coincidence.

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But from the Hill, quote, President elect Donald Trump registered eight companies during

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his presidential campaign that appear to be tied to hotel interests in Saudi Arabia, according

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to a report in The Washington Post.

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Trump registered the companies in August 2015, shortly after launching his presidential bid,

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according to the Post.

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Also, at a campaign rally in 2015, he told the crowd, quote, they buy apartments from

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me.

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They spend 40 million, 50 billion.

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Am I supposed to dislike them?

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I like them very much.

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In January 2018, he said on Fox News, quote, I would want to protect Saudi Arabia, but

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Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically.

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So the picture that you start to get multiple lies to support an indefensible argument that

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is actually covering up a massive corruption scandal.

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Yeah.

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One that would, I don't know, invalidate him from being president in the first place under

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some sort of constitutional.

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OK.

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Great.

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Yeah.

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It seems that way.

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And it's really cool to see things like Pat Robertson come out on The 700 Club, a supposed

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Christian dude telling his audience that, hey, you know what, why would we jeopardize

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this weapons deal?

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It's great.

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It's great that we now live in a world where I'm sure Jim Baker's saying similar shit,

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that we've got these dickhole, these pastors out there who are actively rallying people

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around the idea of selling billions of dollars of weapons because that somehow helps their

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regressive domestic agenda.

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It's so crazy.

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The lie of which suggests that we are selling far less billions of dollars of weapons.

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Oh, 100 percent.

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Even those billions of dollars which we are selling are then being used to commit atrocities

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in Qatar.

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You bet.

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So Christianity is great, guys.

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It's going well.

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They're doing good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They haven't lost their way.

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Oh, no.

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In fact, I think they would say that they've kicked it up a notch.

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I admit that the two examples that I used are really old crazy dudes, but they are big

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figureheads within the evangelical community.

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With massive fucking audiences.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, what I just went over there I think is a nice bridge from Alex.

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He's obsessed with that MPC meme.

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Bring it up.

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Oh, I forgot that we were just going to be talking about a meme.

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We're not.

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We're not going to talk too much about it.

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Okay.

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But he's obsessed with that meme.

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It takes up most of the show.

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He bridges that with THX 1138, which as we described is he's missing most of the thematic

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points of which if he did understand the points of would really point the finger at the actions

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of Donald Trump.

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One of which is this inhumane response, inhuman response to the apparent looking like assassination

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by the state of Saudi Arabia of a journalist who is critical of the regime.

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Which ironically supports a very different film.

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I would say in the Phantom Menace, he would be on the side of the guys who are like, this

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trade blockade is a great idea.

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Yeah, I think he would be on the wrong side of that.

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So anyway, that leads us to Alex does not spend a lot of time talking about the Saudi

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Arabia situation.

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It's indefensible.

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So well, hold on.

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Alex has an interesting take on it.

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That can't be true.

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As we said last Friday and Sunday, evidence because of there being no motive and because

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the media, the corporate media jumped on it, looks like it could be a rogue group false

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flag to derail the peace plans that Trump has.

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And as he prepares to put the clamps on Iran, that this is deep state operatives like John

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Kerry and Obama, who are running their own rogue shadow state department, admittedly,

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could try to derail what's happening using networks under the crown prince, but not under

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his control.

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Just like Trump isn't in control of most of the FBI or most of the Justice Department

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or most of the CIA.

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There are loyal people there, but there are large swats that do whatever they want or

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under the command of Hillary, Obama and other slime bags.

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They brag about this in the news show.

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After this clip, Alex had to take half an hour off of his show because he threw out

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his back stretching that far.

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That is crazy.

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Wow.

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That's maybe false flag, baby.

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That's maybe the most convoluted, terrible plan I have ever heard.

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If true, my respect for Obama, Hillary and others goes way down.

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And others is always my favorite.

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That's my new favorite Alex meme and others way down.

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Could be anybody who's also included in there.

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What about that girl who was in the cult where people got branded?

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She's probably in there.

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The Nixxiom or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Or Nicole Kidman.

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She was in the others.

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I don't know, dude, I hear this and I'm like, this is weak stuff, man.

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Like you apply Occam's razor to things and you're like, you're saying there's no motive.

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There's a motive.

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There's a clear motive.

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I think that might be the main piece of evidence.

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The motive is overwhelming.

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Oh, also opportunity.

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And just because Alex doesn't recognize that there's a motive.

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History of disappearing people and dismembering them.

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Like I'm saying, just because Alex doesn't recognize that there's a motive or he's not

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willing to accept it or whatever, doesn't mean that there isn't.

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There's a very concrete, real world, clear cut reason that Khashoggi would have been

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a target of the Saudi Arabian state, especially in the lead up to their 2030 enticement of

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foreign business, the infrastructure planning that they're doing, this big push.

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It makes total sense.

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There is a motive.

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I remember when they did the very...

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He's been in self-exile for years.

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At the very beginning of this conservative reporting, at the very beginning of this conservative

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reporting where they're like, a Washington Post journalist went into the Saudi consulate,

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a Washington Post journalist with a history of criticizing the Saudi government disappeared

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inside the Saudi consulate.

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I was like, yeah, Beretta did that shit.

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Like it's very...

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OJ is innocent.

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What?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Motive was not hard to come by.

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In another lifetime, by that I mean like four years ago, Alex would have been screaming

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bloody murder about this murder of a journalist.

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Yeah.

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They're attacking all of us.

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He spent a very long time blaming Saudi Arabia for 9-11.

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Well, they did it.

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He wasn't wrong.

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Hey, you know why?

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Because they had a fucking motive.

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He wasn't totally wrong on that front to some extent, but like I don't understand.

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This is such a big pivot for him.

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This is a crazy...

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This is crazy.

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Saudi Arabia is great.

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So anyway, here's the next clip that has to do with that.

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We're about to have regime change in Iran.

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It's super unpopular.

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It's very authoritative and authoritarian, and people don't like it.

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Half the population is 28 or younger, and it would be a really good thing to have peaceful

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regime change over there.

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And these sanctions, these real sanctions are getting ready to do it.

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I thought people didn't like it.

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And so you better believe one guy dies, they're acting like 10 million died, and I'm not saying

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it's a good thing, whatever really happened to him.

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But the fact that it's all recorded, it's all surveilled, looks like a setup on both

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inch.

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Well, I mean, it would be recorded probably because it's in the consulate.

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I think that a lot of those sorts of places have bugs.

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I can't imagine any sort of...

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By the people who rob the buildings.

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Oh, international spycraft still exists in some form?

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You betcha.

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That does not seem like a setup.

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That seems like security measures.

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Then beyond that, Alex, you want regime change?

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Yeah.

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Who are you, man?

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You agree with John Bolton.

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Yes, regime change.

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What are you doing?

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We gotta do regime change, Dan.

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This is insanity.

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Usually I'm against regime change, but sometimes you gotta regime change.

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I'm always against it.

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I'm principally against the idea of us meddling in other countries' governments.

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As we see in 2009, he's pro-Iran.

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He's straight up pro-Iran and he hates the idea that these neo-cons are demonizing the

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Iranian government.

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So I don't know, I don't know.

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I know that times change, but it seems very difficult for me to believe that he's changed

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so much that he's now for some sort of an intervention in order to prompt regime change.

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That seems so far outside of Alex Jones' vocabulary.

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It seems so far outside of his principles that, I mean, this is just...

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You're a gun for hire.

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You don't even stand for anything.

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There are no principles.

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There is nothing.

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Post, I don't know, what, 2015?

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Whenever...

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Maybe even a little before that.

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Yeah.

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It stopped being about any kind of policy, a coherent strategy, and it just became anything

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that the liberals don't want, I want.

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Well now, it's interesting that you say that because in this next clip, Alex explains where

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he's getting his information about the situation in Saudi Arabia from, and it might surprise

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you that it's not research, it's his gut.

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Great.

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Now, you heard from the first to say it, now you heard from the president and the Saudi

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government.

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Trustworthy people.

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When I see CNN and MSNBC day one saying Saudi Arabia did it and this ends our peace deal

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with them and everything's over and Trump's an idiot, it's his fault, I'm like, these

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are known lying scumbags that I don't believe a damn word they say.

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Saudi Arabia doesn't have the motive in this, so what's really going on?

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That's called deduction, my dear Watson.

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No, that's not...

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That's bad deduction.

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He's just saying essentially that like, oh, I saw CNN reporting it's this, therefore I

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believe not this.

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That's bad.

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That's real bad.

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Yeah, no, once you eliminate all other possibilities, don't stop trying to defend those possibilities

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because the reality is a bummer.

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You can't believe that shit.

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But he's also operating from false pretenses, like the premises of his argument seem to

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be that CNN always lies, which isn't true, and second, he doesn't believe that Saudi

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Arabia has a motive, which I find believing it's possible that he doesn't believe that,

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but if you make the premise Saudi Arabia doesn't have a motive, that is also a false premise.

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So those two, like your argument is bogus to begin with, like from the jump you're screwed.

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Whatever conclusion you come to is meaningless.

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This is not how deductive reasoning works in a productive way.

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You're just playing dumb distraction games when you're just like, here's two false things

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that lead to whatever I want you to believe.

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Yeah.

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Bad.

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Yeah.

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Not good.

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Here's the thing.

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This wouldn't pass a 101 logic class.

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Like Alex's, the way he's thinking would get him booted out of freshman at a junior college,

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like junior college logic classes.

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This is embarrassing.

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If there's one thing I know about the scientific method, it's start with the result that you

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want and then ignore anything else that doesn't support that.

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Craft bullshit that supports it in a flimsy way.

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Scientific method.

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Women are made of abortions.

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That's true.

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I've heard that.

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Yeah.

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So the, the re the thing is though, like this show isn't about truth.

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It's not about the news.

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You know what it's about.

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We all know what it's about.

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Right wing propaganda.

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I've just launched our Christmas specials.

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We had planned black Friday specials and our cyber Monday specials.

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People love to buy on the sales days.

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That's just the way people are.

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And that's why we have ourselves on those days.

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I'm putting them all together now, Christmas, black Friday, all of it, the next two months

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of sales at info war store.com.

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This episode is October 17th, 2018 black Friday sale, Christmas sale, two months in advance,

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putting it all together.

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That's bad.

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People love to buy on sales days.

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So what if every day was a sales day, Dan, 365 times your, uh, revenue.

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You know, when your business is doing great, you generally are like, everything's on sale

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forever.

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It's like a mattress store, you know, you are doing good 50% off going out of business

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sale for the next three and a half years, like a mattress store.

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I love that.

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Like, I love that he's such a devout optimist that he's presenting this is like Christmas

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sale starts two months early because everything is so awesome.

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No, no, no, buddy.

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I doesn't know.

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Oh boy.

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I need cash.

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So far, so far we have heard not one word that makes sense.

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No.

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And it's going to get worse.

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I mean, this makes very little sense to the point where, where we end up ending this episode

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is legitimately, I was sitting here like, why am I doing this?

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This is such a waste of like, I, I'm not an idiot.

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This is a waste of my time.

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This show is bad.

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Alex's show is very bad.

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Like not in like a scolding, you're bad kind of way.

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It's like, this is a bad show.

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It's stupid.

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He's rambling about this NPC meme shit for a very, very long time.

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He's barely touching on real news that it matters to the world and what he is, he's

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just dismissing it with terrible arguments and just lying about the structure of his

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arguments.

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And then the other stuff that he gets into is so profoundly dumb.

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It's crazy.

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But before we get there, we have to learn about how the globalists, right?

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Globalists.

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They're doing it.

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They don't want you to use memes, but there is something they do want you to use and it

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might surprise you.

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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, we're in the middle of the meme revolution.

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The European unions passed a law to make everyone pre-approved memes, or you can be sent to

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prison or fined, which has a law going through their Congress to ban memes.

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That's right.

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Because it's a new form of communication.

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The globalists want to use emojis and things that restrict and reduce language.

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Did you just find them?

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That's what the socialist party, Fabian socialists in England always called for.

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The Fabian socialists in England always called for people to use emojis.

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Yeah!

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Yeah!

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Sometimes I just think Alex gets lost in a sentence.

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There has to be an awareness on his part that he's late to the meme party.

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You would hope.

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He's resistant to fully embracing the stupid right-wing meme dance that goes on.

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Now he's coming in as if he's like, oh, I've known about this all along, this is part of

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the Fabian socialists plan.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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All right, buddy.

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Yep.

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All right.

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Keep talking.

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I don't understand, Dan.

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I think what Alex is operating off of is that Paul Joseph Watson made a video about this

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MPC meme thing.

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Maybe it got more views than something Alex put out, so he realized this is something

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I got to talk about.

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And I'm basing that on the fact that in the middle of this episode, he plays Paul Joseph

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Watson's entire report.

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Of course.

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And I am sorry about this, but I do need to play you some Paul Joseph Watson.

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All right.

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We generally resist listening to him because his style is so obnoxious and smart, just

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snarky.

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It's just full of fast edits and insulting voices that he does in order to characterize

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...

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Yeah, he's a giant piece of shit.

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Even if you like him, you should at least be like, this guy's a piece of shit.

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So, just to get people on board a little bit, I cut this clip as sort of an indication of

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his style, just so you can get a little bit of a flavor for what you'll be sitting through

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if you watch one of his videos.

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Thanks, Dan.

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And here's what happens to anyone who suggests that maybe Trump isn't the new Hitler.

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Rape is bad, Orange Man is bad, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what I am outraged

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over today.

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I follow such a diverse range of people, and for me, this is what Twitter is all about.

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Look at the sounds of your echo chambers and stop listening to unique and individual voices.

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I agree with what's on the Twitter, tens of you states I should agree with.

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So...

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Mom?

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I mean, that's pretty indicative of his thing.

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He does these voices that are meant to characterize the people he's lampooning.

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He'll generally use tweets from people that he doesn't like and then does an insulting

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voice similar to that, although not as robotic usually, but that's trying to get the idea

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of like, all these people are saying the same things, they're all automatons, they're the

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NPCs.

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No, I got it.

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What have you.

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That's the whole, that's really the whole report.

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You kind of get it from there.

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Does he not know that that's lame?

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Oh, yeah.

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No, this is hilarious.

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This is funny as hell, man.

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No, I mean, that's lame.

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Yeah, it's pretty lame.

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That is, that's a bummer how lame that is.

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Aren't you supposed to be on the vanguard of bullshit conservative right nonsense?

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Yeah, you would think that he'd be better than this.

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It's a weird thing to say, but you would think that as the rock star of the, they're the

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new punk rock, as he likes to say, you would think, yeah, he'd be a little bit more interesting

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than just like using other people's tweets as proof that everyone that he's against believes

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the same thing.

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Like, he brings up like the Krasenstein brothers or whatever and is like, oh, this is what

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all the left believes.

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I don't know.

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I don't know anybody who agrees with them.

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I don't know anybody who follows them.

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Don't you remember when all rock critics said that Huey Lewis and the News were the next

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big thing in punk rock?

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Spots!

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Next big thing in punk rock!

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There was Bad Brains and then Huey Lewis and the News.

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Everybody knows that's the trajectory.

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Yeah, it's the same sort of fallacy.

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He's just trying to take little snip.

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It's the same way that Alex is like, Rob Reiner speaks for the left.

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Sure.

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Fine.

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You want to make that argument, it's gonna not, that's not spaghetti that's gonna stick

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to the wall.

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That's fine.

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That's undercooked.

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Yeah.

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So in his next clip, Paul Joseph Watson admits what he really enjoys about memes and it's

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kind of what you'd expect.

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There's also this weird disconnect where they dismiss NPC as a pathetic playground insult

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not worthy of attention, yet then write laborious article after article after article being

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triggered by it.

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The same thing they did with Soy Boys.

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What happens to kids who react to playground insults?

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They get the same insult thrown at them again and again because it obviously gets under

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their skin.

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So I like bullying people and I engage in playground insults.

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Yeah.

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Congratulations, Paul.

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That's your business model.

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Enjoy yourself.

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This is why we don't talk about you.

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And you could even tell from listening to that the quick cuts.

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You could tell how heavily edited his stuff is.

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I can't imagine being so bad at your job that you can't speak coherently for, I don't know,

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over seconds.

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We do edit this show in terms of sometimes we have to go to the bathroom or sometimes

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something slips out of our mouth that's like an inside joke or something like that.

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We cut a couple of things out every now and again, but generally we're sitting here talking

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straight through for two and a half hours.

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It's embarrassing to look at Paul Joseph Watson and see like, wow, why'd you cut there?

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That was almost the middle of a word.

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Did you need to do another take?

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The least exciting and technically proficient shot in any movie is some sort of long one

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take.

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Everybody hates those.

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Rope.

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You know, it's like in remember in Birdman, whenever there was that interminable long

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take where they're walking and it's filled with drama and the eventually with the drums

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playing behind it, which only increases the tension and then the tension exploded.

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Yeah.

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Boring.

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18 million cuts between every single fucking step.

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No one fucking remembers rope for a reason.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Now, Paul Joseph Watson's argument.

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My review of rope?

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Use it to hang yourself movie.

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There we go.

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Hot take.

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So, Paul Joseph Watson is a bully.

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Fine.

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I don't really give a shit.

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Best thing to do with bullies is ignore them.

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But this next clip I couldn't ignore and it's because it's sort of the central thesis of

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his video and it speaks to what Alex is trying to pitch to and Alex is doing a much worse

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job of articulating himself than Paul because he's clearly using Paul as a source material

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for his own reporting.

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And in this clip, Paul Joseph Watson, he's making the argument of why people on the left

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are opposed to these NPC memes.

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And one of the arguments that I've seen posted in articles and stuff like that is that it's

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dehumanizing in a way.

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Because what you do is you put a blank face over someone else's face and it's like to

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say all of you are the same.

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I think, I mean, I understand where people are coming from.

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I don't think, I don't care.

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I don't think that sticks.

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Say the words blank face to me, I think schoolboy Q.

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Sure.

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Tell you that right now.

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So, I don't think that that is necessarily a real reason to like be against these memes.

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I think that the targeted harassment aspect of it is much more valid.

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What Paul Joseph Watson's version of it is, they hate this because they know that the

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left can't meme, but the right, baby, we can meme.

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And in doing so, in making this argument, he cites something he should not have cited.

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Of course, we all know why the left wants to ban memes, because the left can't meme.

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That's not just a cliche.

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They admit to it.

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A study undertaken by researchers at University College London found that the most effective

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memes largely originated in two places, the Donald subreddit and 4chan.

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A vice writer for the study acknowledges that the most, quote, effectively spread memes

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originated on the Donald and Paul.

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That's why they want to ban the NPC meme.

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Here's the issue with this.

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Pass.

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No, we can't pass on this, because it's very demonstrative of something super important.

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Paul Joseph Watson is misusing this study from the University College of London, because

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of course he is.

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He didn't click the link in the BBC article that he's summarizing or in the vice write-up

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that he is saying characterizes the study.

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So he really has no idea what he even says past the characterization that Paul and the

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Donald are effective meme distribution hubs.

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That's the only message that he's gotten out of this, because he didn't fucking read the

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study.

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If he had read it, he would have found some information that doesn't really help his arguments

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very much at all.

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First, from the study, quote, our work focuses on four web communities, Twitter, Reddit,

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Gab, and 4chan's politically incorrect board.

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They even later say, quote, note that we exclude mainstream communities like the rest of Reddit,

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other than the Donald subreddit, and Twitter, as our main goal is to obtain clusters of

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memes from the fringe web communities.

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They only looked at four places in the study, so when the conclusion they come away with

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is that the Donald board on Reddit and Paul are effective meme platforms, really the conclusion

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more accurately stated is Gab is a ghost town, and Twitter mostly exists as a secondhand

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store or a thrift shop of memes.

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That's really the conclusion that you should take away from this, since there's only four

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things being studied.

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Now, second, if Paul Joseph Watson had read this study, he would have found that one of

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the main takeaways from the study was, quote, communities within 4chan, Reddit, and Gab

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use memes to share hateful and racist content.

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For instance, among the most popular clusters of memes, we find variants of the anti-Semitic

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happy merchant meme.

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They say in the study that memes of these communities are used to express racist sentiment.

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Quote, evident from the popularity of the anti-Semitic happy merchant meme, which depicts

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a greedy and manipulative stereotypical caricature of a Jew.

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By contrast, mainstream communities like the rest of Reddit and Twitter primarily share

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harmless neutral memes, which are rarely used in hateful contexts.

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One of the big takeaways, again, from the study was, quote, Paul and Gab share hateful

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and racist memes at a higher rate than mainstream communities as we find a considerable number

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of anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi clusters.

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This trend is steady over time for 4chan's poll board, but ramping up recently with Gab.

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Quote, there are several takeaways from our measurements of influence.

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We show that Paul is, generally speaking, the most influential disseminator of memes

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in terms of raw influence.

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In particular, it's more influential in spreading racist memes than non-racist ones.

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Relatedly, poll has generally more influence in terms of spreading political memes than

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other communities.

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What the study ultimately found is that poll is the most influential meme source in the

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realm of their study, but that they were woefully inefficient, which is to say that they post

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tons of memes there and a lot of them don't catch on, but the ones that do are really

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popular.

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In contrast, the Donald subreddit has a way higher than expected efficiency rate, which

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is honestly what you should expect.

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That subreddit is a little more than a means of weaponizing information and misinformation

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in a coordinated way.

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That's exactly what would make sense to find.

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A low number of unique memes, but each one pushed in a unique, unified, focused way.

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If Paul Joseph Watson wants to use this study to assert the things that he's asserting,

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namely that it demonstrates why liberals are afraid of memes because his side is better

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at them, he needs to accept the entire study, not just the pieces that feel good to him.

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I know that it would be inconvenient in the middle of this snarky rant to have to just

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stop and point out that a large part of the study that he's citing involves the dissemination

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of racist memes and how the very places he's claiming as being on his side are full to

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the gills with anti-Semitic characterizations of Jews and more or less never-ending racism.

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So I empathize with him a little bit because that would be very difficult to put in with

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your fake voices and his weird tweets that he likes to quote.

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Now, before you...

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Why would you bother pointing that out?

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The racist part is a feature, not a bug.

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Everybody just assumes that they're racist memes.

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Right.

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Now, I've explained to you what that study really says and why it's not really any evidence

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that liberals are afraid of memes because, again, just studied for fringe places.

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You can just throw away a gap, by the way.

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That's a zero.

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And that study very clearly demonstrates, ain't nobody on gab, but the people there

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are bad news.

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But Paul Joseph Watson is coming in with this like, hey, I read an article on Vice that

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said this one sentence about this study, so I'm going to act like I know everything about

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it.

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Just a minute later in his special report, Paul Joseph Watson owns himself.

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Serious cultural engagement requires focus.

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It nevertheless has a rejuvenating effect, whereas the passive consumption of mass culture

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leaves us more innovative than before.

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And the same goes for political opinions.

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It takes a modicum of research and a small step beyond superficial thinking to understand

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that no, not everyone who doesn't have hashtag FBP or a blue wave in their profile is an

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alt-right neo-Nazi.

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So, I mean, so his argument is that the right is so great at memes that the left is afraid

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of them.

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Furthermore, his argument is those that, let's just say, consume memes, which are easily

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digestible passive pieces of culture are less.

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All right.

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That's not invigorating and you don't get much out of it.

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But with political opinions, just a modicum of research will help you get where you need

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to go, says me, the guy who read one sentence in a Vice article and then decided to conclude

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things that you shouldn't conclude about it.

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What are we doing?

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Paul Joseph Watson, do your fucking research.

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Read the study, you dickweed.

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I know it's hard, but like, if you're going to in the...

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It's not.

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Do a modicum of research.

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Exactly.

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It's literally not hard.

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And he's not wrong.

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It is invigorating.

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Yeah.

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I feel invigorated by like, oh, I did read that study and it says slightly different

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things and what Paul Joseph Watson's trying to present.

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I just hate it.

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I hate it that in the same breath he's sassing about like, I do all this stuff.

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Like the reason that I have such robust, smart political beliefs is that I do research into

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this stuff in the same sentence when he's manifesting not doing research.

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And then he ends with a false characterization of people on the left being like, if you don't

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have a blue wave on your Twitter thing, you're a Nazi.

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That's playground stuff.

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I'm not triggered by this.

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I just think it's pathetic.

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You know?

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I mean, I think generally speaking, it's best not to talk about him because it's the game

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that he wants.

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Yeah.

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And I just, it's fun.

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It's fun when dumb people act dumb.

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I think that a well-placed bit of silence or pause proves far more effective or perhaps

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at the very least more interesting than constant jump cuts.

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So there is literally no space between the end of any sentence fragment and the next

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sentence.

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But I think it is freakish and disconcerting.

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I think I know why he does it.

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Because if you pause to think for a single second, you'd be like, oh, that's stupid.

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That's a huge part of it.

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And then also it's much harder to edit his stuff into like those, uh, like Vic Berger

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would have a much harder time using Paul Joseph Watson's footage.

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Oh yeah.

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I see what you're saying.

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Cause you'd have to like really make precise chops in order to get the clips that you would

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want of like, here is the, here's what he's saying because he's talking a mile a minute

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and there are no breaks in the dialogue.

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Can we just point out he sucks.

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Like not, not like his content is awful, but like as at his job, he's terrible.

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That's really bad.

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He's terrible at his job.

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If his job is journalist, he's not bad at his job.

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If he is distraction rodeo clown propagandist, he's pretty good at that.

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Yeah.

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But that's even within that sphere, I feel like he's doing a terrible job.

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He's doing a terrible job.

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If you consider, like if you look into what he's saying, yes, but the gambit, the gamble

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is always, no one's going to really look into this from an artistic standpoint.

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He's terrible.

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But home improvement was a very popular show.

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So sure.

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There you go.

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I mean, he even makes a snarky comment about that, about how like, there you go, but not

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about home improvement, but I think it's a, how I met your mother or something like that.

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Even that's better than home improvement.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, Alex and this next clip, uh, he's back and uh, he is related, uh, THX one, one

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three eight to the NPC meme, but then he also relates an apple commercial from 34 years

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ago to the NPC commercial, the one where the lady throw hammer throws into the big television

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screen.

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I don't remember.

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Oh, I remember.

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I wasn't watching.

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It was a big deal, but it was from the Olympics and uh, this is Alex screaming in the middle

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of it.

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Okay.

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You need to calm down.

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That actually got Howard Dean, uh, out of the running for the democratic nomination.

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He needs to calm down about this meme.

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It's a little calm down about that commercial.

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It's a little unnerving, like how much potential he thinks there is in this meme because you

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know what's fun about this?

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This is like when we go back to 2009 and we see some petty piece of news about like a

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chicken farmer whose house blew up and it's like a big piece of Alex's narrative for a

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day and then we look into it, we find out, Oh, he was a crazy dude who blew up his own

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house.

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And then like a week later, Alex isn't talking about it.

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Never speaks of it again.

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Listen to that day.

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You're like, Oh, this is going to be the next month.

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Yeah.

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He's going to be talking about this forever.

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That's what this is.

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But just like in present day, I'm listening to this, I'm like, I don't even know why anyone

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should care.

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This is, this is, this is cotton candy.

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It doesn't fill you up.

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It's not good for you.

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It's just, it's just there, it's just there.

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I mean, here's the better move for the right wing.

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Find a way to make that Shaq commercial where he's right next to the cat, like shaken, you

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know, they're both shaken like that.

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You seen that one?

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Put like a gray face on that.

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Call it a day.

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That'd be great.

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Or the Jordan and bird commercials.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Put a gray face on Barkley.

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Everybody loved that.

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Can the NPC play?

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No, he cannot.

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No, he cannot.

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It even fits in thematically.

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Exactly.

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Crazy.

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Man, these guys are terrible at memes.

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We just came up with a better one.

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Yep.

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So in this next clip, Alex wants to talk to you a little bit about his best friend.

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Yeah.

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Donald Trump.

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Yeah.

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He wants to tell you that he is basically Jesus.

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Uh, he sacrificed so much for you and you don't even, you don't even care really prosperity

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is pouring back in to him.

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The president has gotten 20% control of the federal personally pouring back into him real

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Sterling and sheen constitutionally.

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He can take the attacks, turn them back on the enemy, withstand all the peer pressure,

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the $2 billion he's lost of his fortune from all the lawsuits and attacks and golf course

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deals he lost and tournaments he lost and this family has gone through the fire for

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us.

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He said, I love this country.

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I don't need to be president.

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I don't want to be president, but I got to do it.

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I just can't watch him flush the country and everybody's crew is over.

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Trump's mom is a Scott and I learned the cliche, certainly true about Scott's from Scotland

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or the tightest bunch you'll ever run into, but they're also a lot of courage and I got

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some Scott in my background.

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What just happened there?

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But the point is, is that Trump is the type of frugal constantly gives to charity, never

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tells anybody.

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It helps kids get livers, kidneys.

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Sometimes he'll just like somebody that works for him and learn they have a problem and

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buy him a house.

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I mean, I mean, I mean this is real stuff Trump does, but you need to stop listening

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to Roger Stone.

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That is not stuff that Trump does.

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No.

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I don't know how Trump's charity was famous for self-dealing.

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Oh, was that it?

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I thought it was giving away so much money to charity.

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No, turns out that charity was funneling money to him and his family.

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Do you mean like tax exempt money?

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Kind of like what Wyclef did in Haiti.

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Yeah, great work.

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Yeah.

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And you know, I don't, I don't know.

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I don't have concrete proof that he doesn't help people get kidneys or that he has an

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employee who he bought.

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Don't care.

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He bought a house for an employee.

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I don't care.

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I don't know that to be true or not, but I do know other things that are true, such as

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him not paying his contractors really consistently.

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And I would say that kind of behavior doesn't match.

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Like if you have somebody who's such a like generous giving person that they would buy

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an employee a house because they're having a bad time or something like that, that person

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will probably also pay their contractors.

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Nah.

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Generally wouldn't screw people over and make them lose their houses.

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Nah, come on.

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I don't know.

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So anyway, his mom's a Scott.

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I'm not sure when he says the tightest people alive.

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I'm not sure if that means cause that was, he's calling them cheap.

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Well, that could be, or that's old timey slang for drunk too.

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That's that's true.

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That's old British slang for drunk.

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He's tight.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if that's the case.

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I don't know.

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I'm going to go with cheap.

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Probably.

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I think he's, I think he's calling him cheap.

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Probably.

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So that's why.

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Why did you shoehorn that in there?

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No idea, but that's about his mom.

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Now Alex gets to Trump's dad.

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The New York times in the thirties when there were communist riots in New York and police

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reports about his dad beaten up four or five of them.

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That was that was his father.

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Good.

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And so that's where Trump comes from.

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So I can't find comes from a cheap Scott and a violent man.

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I can't find any evidence that Fred Trump ever beat up a bunch of communists in New

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York during a skirmish.

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However, on Memorial Day, 1927 in New York City, there was a brawl between the Ku Klux

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Klan and Italian fascist sympathizers, which led to the deaths of two of the Italian fascists.

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Why were they later opposite sides later in Queens?

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A little at least 1000 clan members marched on this Memorial Day, which of course pissed

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off a bunch of folks.

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Another brawl started in the aftermath.

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Seven people were arrested.

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One of these men was Fred Trump, Donald Trump's dad.

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It's unclear based on all public records exactly what he was up to, but the brawl which he

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was in was between the Klan representing Protestant nativist outrage and the Catholics representing

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the group that the Protestants felt they were being oppressed by, namely the Catholic police.

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And Trump's family are not Catholics.

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The other six men who were arrested were all clan guys, which makes you think that Fred

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probably was too.

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The argument has been made that the other six men were charged, whereas Fred was released

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and thus he must be innocent.

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That may be the case, but it's equally likely that he was the only one of the seven to be

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rich and was able to bribe the notoriously corrupt 1920s New York judicial system.

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A lot of people have tried to make the argument that before this, at this point, Fred Trump

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wasn't rich, and that's not true.

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At this point, he'd already built over 20 homes or houses in Queens and sold them.

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So he already had a pretty good amount of land at his disposal.

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Money.

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Right.

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So he was already rich.

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Maybe he wasn't the billionaire that he would end up being or multi, multi millionaire,

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but he was plenty loaded to bribe the notoriously corrupt New York judicial system in the 20s.

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And cheap.

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Yeah.

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Notoriously cheap.

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It was the 20s.

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Cheap to corrupt.

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It was the late 20s.

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It was not hard.

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Yeah.

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You needed to be slightly upper middle class to do just a good bribe.

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Now, humorously, when asked for comment about this, Donald Trump was less than subtle.

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Quote, he has nothing to do with-

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I hate blacks.

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He has nothing to do with this.

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This never happened.

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This is nonsense and it never happened.

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This never happened.

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Never took place.

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He was never arrested.

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Never convicted.

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Never even charged.

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It's completely false.

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Ridiculous story.

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He was never there.

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It never happened.

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He was never sentenced?

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Yeah.

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Makes me think it happened.

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Who are you trying to convince, buddy?

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Who are you trying to convince?

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You or me?

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Little over the top on that denial.

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That might be a little over the top.

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The lady doth protest too much.

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So ultimately, anything is possible here, except for the idea that Fred Trump beat up

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a bunch of communists.

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Was it a Ku Klux Klan member who was a giant racist?

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There are some reports that I could find.

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I'm not sure exactly how solid these are, but there are some contemporaneous reports

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that all the dudes who got arrested were in Klan regalia.

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I don't know if that's the case.

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That's not from the New York Times article, but there are some indications that the people

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were in costume.

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And if that's the case, then hey, oh, and they all use the same lawyer.

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So that's kind of suspicious.

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Eh, come on.

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Dang.

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Come on.

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Dang.

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What?

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Come on.

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So Alex, in this next clip, explains why Trump is a great leader.

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And it's not great.

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He hates blacks.

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He supports the MPC meeting.

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There is so much to cover today.

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It is just unbelievable.

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We have Honduras and Guatemala, after being funded by the U.N., openly launching massive

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invasion forces and opening up migration routes into the United States to countermand the

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fact that Trump last year pulled out of the U.N. treaty.

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There is a caravan that's been going on for years upon years, like Hungary and Romania.

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And now Austria are pulling out of the compact as well.

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So his humanitarian mission, they had been thumbing their nose Trump promise to cut the

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billions in U.S. funding.

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This morning, within hours, Honduras and Guatemala responded to stop migrant caravan after Trump

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threats.

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That is the Associated Press.

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So we're talking diplomatically, politically instant response to Trump putting his foot

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down and saying, I notice you've got borders.

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So this is a story that Alex is trying to pitch that Trump threatened to stop all foreign

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aid to Honduras and Guatemala if they didn't stop sending caravans.

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So Alex is presenting the story as being cut and dry.

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Real simple.

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A bunch of immigrants are trying to come up from Honduras.

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Trump threatened to cut foreign aid to the country and their president shooken his boots

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to kowtow to Trump's bold America first machismo.

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There we go.

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There's a couple of problems.

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No, no, no, no.

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I don't need to hear these, Dan.

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Obviously correct.

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We can move on.

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All right.

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Next clip.

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Trump is a fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I'm so depressed by this.

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The first problem here is that Honduras didn't really bend to the will of Trump.

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Mexico has threatened to detain or deport the refugees in the Honduran caravan should

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they end up reaching their border.

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The most that Honduras has done is that the foreign ministry warned that there may be

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people in quote political sectors making false promises to the refugees that they'll be able

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to seek asylum in the United States and that they should not let themselves be used by

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a quote movement that is so that is obviously political and ups is meant to upset governability,

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stability and peace.

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Don't trust Whitey.

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No, no, no.

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What could this possibly mean?

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You ask yourself.

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You think it's about Whitey.

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Alex doesn't know because he didn't read the rest of this Associated Press article.

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But if he had and read the article that he's citing, he would see, quote, Fernando Andre,

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leader of the governing National Party, claimed opponents of Honduras president were behind

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the migrant exodus.

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Quote, it's a strategy planned and financed by the opposition, he said.

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Sure.

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Familiar rhetoric.

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Sure.

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So you basically have a, you know, a Central American, maybe not so popular president who

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has gotten into power and the the Association of American States has been like, hey, there's

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a lot of irregularities with your election.

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And now he's trying to demonize the people who want to get out of the country.

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No idea.

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Maybe some sort of globalist plot.

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Maybe Soros is behind it.

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So the second issue here is that the threat of cutting off foreign aid was not necessarily

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what got anyone to do anything.

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It was Trump threatening to literally close the southern U.S. border and send in the military.

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Quote, can he do that?

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I must, in the strongest terms, Mexico to stop this onslaught.

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And if possible, to do so, I will call up the U.S. military and all caps close our southern

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border.

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He refers to refugees trying to save their lives by coming to America and onslaught.

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That's not great.

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It should go without saying, but according to Alex's belief about what the president

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can and cannot do with the army vis-a-vis operating domestically, Alex should be livid

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about that tweet.

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Unless he considers this not a domestic action, in which case Alex would legitimately need

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to be advocating war with Mexico and I guess Honduras.

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Basically, you have to say that these troops are going to be used non-domestically and

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then that would be war with Central America.

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No, they put him directly on the border.

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So it's like, so they got one foot in, one foot out.

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It's not really domestic.

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It's not really war.

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It's like going to the Four Corners.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You're in all those states at the same time.

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OK, that's possible.

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Yeah.

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The third problem.

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That makes sense.

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When Trump was talking about foreign aid, he said he was, quote, stopping all payments

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to these countries which seem to have almost no control over their population.

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The thing that Alex Jones yells about the most, the biggest fear that he's ever had

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is the idea of a government having control over their population.

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Any innocuous comment from a politician he doesn't like is magically transformed into

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proof that the government is trying to control him, whether it be by taking his precious

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guns or just by making him feel bad that he's a huge bigot.

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In reality, this is largely a replaying out of the tension that happened back in April

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when a group of about 1,100 people walked up from Central America to the border in a

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combination of an annual symbolic protest as well as an attempt for many of them to

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reach the border, intentionally turn themselves in and plead for asylum.

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Trump saw a report about this on Fox and Friends and immediately tweeted out that this was

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an invasion and threatened to send in the National Guard.

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According to the Guardian, he threatened to cut off all foreign aid to Honduras then.

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Familiar.

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Both threats were ultimately empty, but in April, Mexico did not stop the refugees from

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reaching the border.

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Quote, they didn't act the way Trump wanted, Irenio Mujica said.

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When Trump started tweeting, we were afraid, but the Mexican government responded humanely

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and sensibly.

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We didn't expect that.

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We thought they would cave to Trump, but they didn't.

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One of the members of the April caravan was Chanel Smith, the 27-year-old trans woman

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from Honduras.

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Quote, Smith suffered discrimination in Honduras.

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She bravely showed three bullet wounds on her body and a steel plate in her arm and

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said gangs were approaching the trans population to peddle drugs.

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She refused and was told to change her mind within 24 hours.

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Instead, she left the country.

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Another was Jocelyn Amador, 22, who operated a small business selling mobile phone accessories

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in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, but also had to flee after being unable to pay a pair of

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$125 extortion payments.

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Another was Isabel Niero Rodriguez, 52 years old, who also fled after extortion demands.

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She tried to open a bakery in El Salvador, but a gang demanded $300 as a fee for starting

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operations and threatened to kill her grandson if she didn't pay.

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The Mexican government responded humanely and allowed these refugees to reach their

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destination rather than detaining them and sending them back to a very likely death.

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In June 2018, the Department of Homeland Security reported that from April 19th to May 31st,

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at least 1,995 children were separated from their families at the border.

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Since then, allegations have come out about rampant physical and sexual abuse of detainees,

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as well as the thing that Alex seemed to be very concerned about, which is forced medication

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of children.

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Though the Trump administration had been considering implementing the family separation policy

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since his literal inauguration day, the timeline strongly suggests that he put the policy in

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action almost as a way of punishing the Mexican government for not stopping the refugee caravan

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in the spring of 2018.

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This isn't just me making a loose conjecture.

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The Guardian even makes the connection very clearly, quote, the Mexican government allowed

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hundreds of migrants, mainly Hondurans, to reach the U.S. border, infuriating Trump,

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who initiated the family separation policy soon after.

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Beyond the human tragedy that has been witnessed since his policy was implemented, studies

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have also shown that it has had little to no deterrent effect on refugees and immigrants

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trying to reach the United States.

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Further, analyses of the data have shown that the cost of housing people who were detained

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under Trump's separation plan averages out to about $775 per person per day, as opposed

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to $256 per person per day under the previous system.

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In order to compensate for this increased cost of being cruel to an almost inhuman level,

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the Trump administration announced that it planned to shift more than $260 million that

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was supposed to go to HIV and cancer research into covering the costs of separating families.

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If I had to guess, I would say that this is not because Trump is an idiot who doesn't

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care about other people but himself, but because he knows that the holographic medbeds that

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cure all diseases are right around the corner, and spending any money trying to cure cancer

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is just wasting money.

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So.

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I mean, so fuck all that noise.

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I don't know how to put a button on anything, but, you know, this is all bad.

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Shit's bad.

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This is, yeah, this is the, what, second time I've had to completely walk away from the

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show for a second?

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Yeah, I mean, if you want to bring that up, sure.

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Yeah, I had to stop recording for a little bit and take a breather on that one.

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Behind the scenes.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, it's tough to listen to Alex be a complete monster, but very predictable things

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and things that we've seen play out already, even in the last six months, you know, it's

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really tough to experience that without having some sort of a visceral reaction.

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I don't think that's wrong at all.

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I did not predict how impactful that would be necessarily, but maybe that's just because

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I'm so jaded to propaganda.

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Yeah, I mean, and you're aware, yeah, exactly.

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You know, I am as viscerally affected by it as anybody else, but at the same time, I deadened

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that, like, that immediate reaction button or whatever, because, I mean, I'm not saying

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that you're succumbing to this at all, and please don't think that this is a judgment,

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but when you have people who outwardly talk and relish in the idea of bullying and trying

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to make people angry for fun and sport, whenever you spend 12, 14 hours a day studying them

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and digging into the methods of their propaganda, it gets to a point where, for me especially,

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I realize that that's part of their game, and I'm so averse to them getting what they

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want out of me, and that's not the case for everybody.

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This isn't the first time that you're hearing this, either.

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That's true.

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Like, you've done the research, your initial reaction has passed, and you're doing this

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in a different way, whereas this is all just hitting me in a wash all at once, and I assume

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everybody listening got hit in the face with that.

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So if you're having a tough time hearing all that, you're not alone.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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Now, Jordan, what's good news is, look, the world may be bleak, it should be real bad,

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but there's one shining light of hope, and that is that Alex has a plan for Infowars.com

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that is very bad.

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This is a very bad plan.

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And so everyone just keep making the MPC memes, and let them banish.

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We're going to create a whole section for memes the next week on Infowars.com, like

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a message board.

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Like some sort of-

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Where you can just go in, like, Reddit, whatever, and just come as long as it's legal and lawful.

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You're racist, you're not racist, you're Christian, you're not Christian, whatever, as long as

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it's not legal-

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What?

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Wait, wait, wait, what?

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We're going to bring internet freedom back, ladies and gentlemen, and we'll just have

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Meme Central, and the best ones will be on the front page, and we're going to have daily

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prizes for memes, because it's memes that threaten them the most.

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In fact, I'm going to announce a super fast contest that I will determine, and that I

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will announce next Monday, $10,000 for the best Infowars-themed MPC meme.

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I do not know why, I'm lying, I do know why, the first thing he comes up with is, racist?

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Not racist?

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Whatever.

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No big deal.

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Anything goes.

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All bets are off.

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Two pieces of news for Alex, one, the racist meme message board category is well served

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on the internet.

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There is not a need for another one.

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Plenty of those available for people to use already, so Infowars is going to fail on that

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level.

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Second, Alex, check out your message board already, check out your comment section, plenty

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of racism already.

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Yeah, you don't need to worry about that.

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Plenty of Christianity, plenty of racism, all of it.

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No shortage.

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No, none at all.

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No shortage.

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All of this, hey, task already accomplished.

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This is like, he just discovered me.

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This is like you're explaining to your grandpa why there are too many browser extensions.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Like, no, no, no, the browser's supposed to be filled with eight different forms of Yahoo

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search engine, right?

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Or it would be like you being like, Dan, I got to tell you about Bitcoin today.

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If you were telling me today about this exciting thing, knowledge fight's going to get into

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Bitcoin.

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Hell yeah, we are.

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We're going to get on the ground floor of this Bitcoin thing.

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Dan, there is this fucking cat that can play a goddamn piano.

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I don't even know how he does it.

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It's magic.

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I don't even know.

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I mean, it's not a full grand piano, so, you know, not as many points there.

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It's just a little Casiotone keyboard.

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But Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, if you heard of Starbucks, we got to get some stock.

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What are we, what are you talking about?

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Alex is pathetically late to the game on this.

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So what is a Macintosh?

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But like, really, like, what is a Macintosh?

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It's like an app.

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What?

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It's a kind of Apple.

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That's why Apple named it.

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Oh, shit.

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Damn it.

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Oh, I thought it was some sort of Tosh 2.4.

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They're so clever.

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So in his next clip, Alex, you know, he sort of had some time to ruminate on being kicked

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off all the social networks out there.

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And this is what he has to say about it.

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Did I try to get banned?

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Like...

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No.

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They had a Facebook chat about me.

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Oh, we think Jones wanted to be banned.

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No, I didn't want to be banned, but I wasn't going to self-censor.

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So that's what he says.

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Now this is what he says immediately after that.

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So I sat there and had a meeting with my dad, and I've told you part of HR, but my dad works

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with us here because I can trust him.

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He does a great job.

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And he said, man, you're really pushing it.

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You're going to get banned everywhere.

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I said, dad, I'm already banned.

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And he said, well, just don't go further than you would.

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Don't let them go to you.

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And I said, I'm not, I'm sitting back and thinking about what would I really be saying?

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And if I've begun to govern what I say, not because what I'm saying is not true, but because

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I don't want to be censored.

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And I said, I have begun to bend my will.

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And so I'm going to go on air and say what I really think.

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So you were trying to get banned?

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And they're going to ban me before the election.

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They're planning after the election to ban everybody publicly.

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They're planning now to just do it quietly.

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I'm going to force them to ban me.

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That really sounds like he's like, I'm going to get them to ban me, which is intentionally

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getting yourself kicked off stuff because I'm saying things that I earlier would have

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stopped myself from saying.

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I don't know.

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It's not making a lot of sense.

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But his dad does sound like he's probably giving him good advice, which is cool out.

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Which kind of suggests the reason that he's doing it is like, fuck you, dad.

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There's a piece of that.

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And then there's also.

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You're not the boss of me anymore.

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It all boils down to oppositional deficiency to some extent, whether it's to his human

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resource director slash father or to the idea of like, they're going to kick us off eventually.

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So I'll do it first.

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So I'll be the first one in the band pool or whatever.

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Son, don't say flagrantly misogynist or anti-Semitic things to your employees.

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Fuck you, dad.

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You can't control me.

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I'm going to take the governor off.

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I was not saying those things, but now I'm going to fucking do it.

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It is not because you told me not to.

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No, definitely not.

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I sat down and I thought about it and I realized I was holding myself back from saying anti-Semitic

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things.

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You know how I've always been holding myself back from that?

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Hmm.

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Strange.

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So I didn't listen to this whole episode.

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I should be totally honest with you.

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I turned it off at a certain point because there's a lot of this stuff, you know, we've

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gone down these roads of like complete and utter bullshit that's masking like just inhuman

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nonsense.

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And then at the same time, most of the time that we, the clips that we haven't played

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are all him talking about this meme.

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He's over the moon with this meme.

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So then.

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I don't understand that at all.

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It's not that good.

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It's a good meme.

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It's really not.

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The Fabian socialists want you to use emojis.

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I don't understand what that means.

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So fight back against the Fabians.

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I don't understand who, I don't understand why they want you to use emojis.

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Because it restricts speech.

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You need, you need memes.

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What?

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Look, it's nonsense.

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But then he gets into a little bit of hatred for Beto O'Rourke because Alex is now super

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into Ted Cruz, which I would remind everyone that he was really doubling down on the attacking

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Ted Cruz when Donald Trump was during the primaries.

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Lying Ted.

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Your dad was involved in the Kennedy assassination.

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Now he's the best senator that there ever was.

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Loves him.

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He actually even says it's a national emergency if Ted Cruz doesn't win his election.

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And I think there's two pieces of this.

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One, Alex wasn't taking all this seriously before because he didn't think that Beto was

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a serious contender.

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Of course.

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And then second, his ex-wife has been tweeting a lot about Beto and her support of him.

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So I think that there might be a little piece of that.

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Fuck you, dad.

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He's really into Ted Cruz.

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By really into Ted Cruz, I mean really anti-Beto.

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So here's the first clip of that, which is, I would deem this to be irresponsible.

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You know, Beto O'Rourke wants to ban semi-autos, Beto O'Rourke wants open borders, Beto O'Rourke

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wants to put globalist communist types on the Supreme Court.

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That's enough to vote against him.

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And I bet there's more to, you know, say he's a pedophile.

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That's not what I'm saying.

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I'm saying if I was casting a creepy pervert or somebody like run a mortuary or something

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that like kidnaps kids and eats them or something, I would pick Ted Cruz with Halloween coming

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up.

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Obviously, Ted Cruz.

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I would have him working in the ghoul shop, the most Ted Cruz guy.

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But Beto O'Rourke, Beto O'Rourke, he would be definitely working in the House of Hearts.

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Now, who would be the head guy?

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Ted Cruz!

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Brian Stelter.

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Stelter.

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I mean, I don't think Brian Stelter is a pedophile.

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Cool.

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But he looks like the subway founder.

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What?

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Who is one.

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And so many of these guys have that look.

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You know the pedo look.

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What?

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Like salon and vice worships pedophilia now.

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And they say how great it is all the time.

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And say, you know, it's good for this to happen to kids.

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They have a right for men to come pick your daughter or son up.

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And so all I'm saying is central casting, folks, central casting.

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These guys look like slimy pieces of crap that you wouldn't let get anywhere near your

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children.

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Of course, they want to abort your children before they're born.

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They want to kill your children if they could before they're born.

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And they want to feed them GMO and give them deadly vaccines.

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Cool, man.

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He just hit the trifecta.

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That was, I think, you know.

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So in his mind.

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He got bingo.

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In his mind, it's terrible if he called them a pedophile.

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But he can say they want to kill your children before they're born.

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Sure.

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And then heavily imply they are pedophiles because they look like pedophiles in central

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casting or something.

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I mean, they're great, great administrators and fantastic public servants, but they look

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like pedophiles.

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You can't vote for the like, like that.

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That's so gross.

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Like what he's doing there is so gross.

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The coupling and the word association shit that he's doing is so like it's it's elementary.

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It's irresponsible.

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It's loathsome.

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I just listen to stuff like that and I'm like, that's the kind of thing where I'm like, I

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don't know.

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I got better things to do.

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Well, his dad told him to call them pedophiles as a brilliant HR move.

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Get all the riffraff to quit Info Wars because I won't call them pedophiles this time.

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I know that like my life as it is, is kind of like maybe a lot of people would think

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possibly I'm throwing a lot of my time away and like maybe I'm fishing in a dry well by

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really trying to understand Alex Jones.

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And I take that criticism.

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I understand.

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But even I is fully committed as I am to this here shit like this and I'm like, I got better

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things to do.

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I don't know why this guy is even doing the show and yeah, this is nonsense is.

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And when you add in the added layer two of like the June s stuff, the multilevel marketing

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incorporation he's, he's got in on that going so far.

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I don't know.

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I haven't heard him talk about it, but I don't listen to his show much.

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So I'm going to go with great.

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I don't listen to his present day show much anymore because it makes me feel like this.

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It makes me feel like I'm not doing anything.

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Yeah.

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Like I understand there's like, okay, uh, you know, thx one, one three eight.

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We can learn a little bit about that.

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We can like point a finger at Paul Joseph Watson for snarkily saying everyone should

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do research when he hasn't done any himself.

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Sure.

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We can talk to you about the, the Honduran caravan stuff.

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We could do that.

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Sure.

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We, but the rest of this is, and let me tell you something, say what you want.

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That fight scene with Darth Maul at the end of Phantom Menace was great.

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Sure.

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You got to give it a, you got to give it to him there.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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But the rest of the show is dog shit.

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Yeah.

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It's nothing.

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It's a man spinning his wheels and doing nothing.

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And when he did, when he, this next clip is about where I was like, all right, I'm out.

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I don't, I, I wish you well, Alex, I don't need to listen to this fucking bullshit anymore.

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Because like, listen to this.

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Speaking of Pito O'Rourke, I'm sorry.

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It's beta O'Rourke.

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Nice.

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When you got a name like it's easy to say Pito O'Rourke or wait, wait, wait, it's not

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beta O'Rourke.

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It's not Pito O'Rourke.

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Oh, it's Bito Pito Pito O'Rourke.

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How you doing?

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Well, I'm having a problem.

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I'm not a transmitter then somebody come in here.

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It's breaking.

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What's his name?

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Sometimes I have like this moment, this mental block.

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So many great right-wing comedians, liar O'Rourke, chicken neck O'Rourke, scallywag O'Rourke.

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What I don't care.

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That's the one you close on?

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If you're a communist or a socialist, you're fleeing California.

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That's great.

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Just don't bring it here.

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But when your family is a bunch of fake Texans and you should talk like Obama mixed with

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Bernie Sanders, just get out of my state, you scumbag.

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Pito grew up in El Paso.

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There's Diplo O'Rourke.

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There's a girl taco O'Rourke.

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There's Bagger Vance O'Rourke.

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Everybody knows these.

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I would say that Alex is not as good as his daddy, Donald Trump, at coming up with nicknames

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for people because all that is soft scallywag O'Rourke.

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Scallywag.

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That's his closer.

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Because he said carpetbagger right before that, carpetbagger O'Rourke.

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And so I think that it just associated in his mind.

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And scallywag is a fun word.

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It's a fun word, but it's not an insult.

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It's actually kind of a like, oh, you scallywag.

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It's almost like a begrudging respect for you getting away with nonsense.

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I don't think it is.

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I think it's a bad term.

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I remember I looked this up a while ago and I think it's actually like, uh.

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Isn't it from like pirates or whatever?

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Oh, no.

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No, it's yeah, it's a person who behaves badly, but in amusingly mischievous, it's some other

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word like scallywag that like is just in our vernacular, but we don't really know the etymology

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of.

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I can't remember what it is.

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Oh, that's right.

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Yeah.

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No, I can't remember what it was, but there's another one I looked up.

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I was like, oh shit, that's a bad word that I thought was just a fun word.

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But yeah.

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Okay.

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Scallywag is good.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So he's cantankerous.

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That's weak.

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He's mischievous.

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That's weak.

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And the comedy bit of like, ah, my earpiece isn't working.

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What's that?

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What's his name?

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Pedo O'Rourke.

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Pedo O'Rourke.

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It's a bad comedy piece and it goes on forever.

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That clip is almost a minute long.

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He goes even further with it and he's like, who's that cow at UT?

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Bevo.

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Bevo O'Rourke.

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Oh man.

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Like you are grasping at straws, buddy.

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I don't know.

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Like I hear stuff like this and I'm just like, I gotta, I gotta go, man.

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It's kind of like being around someone you don't want to be around.

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And I know that it's kind of my job to be around someone.

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No one wants to be around with Alex, but like, I just like, I want, I want him to do better

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and I just, I'm not getting any, I'm not getting anything out of it and I'm just hearing him

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be like Pedo O'Rourke, Pedo O'Rourke.

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I'm just like, this is pathetic.

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This is on the same show that Paul Joseph Watson is basically saying like, we just do

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playground insults and when you respond poorly to it, we keep doing it cause that's what

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bullies do.

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Yeah.

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I hear him do this, this name calling game.

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I'm like, this is sad.

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He can do better.

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He has it.

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Yeah.

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He has it in him.

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He could do better.

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Maybe not anymore.

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Maybe not anymore.

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Maybe he's lost a step or whatever, but like.

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He is like the Curt Schilling of radio hosts that nobody pays attention to anymore.

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How do you mean?

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He's lost his fastball.

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I'll tell you that right now.

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That is fair.

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Yeah.

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I've resorted, I've resorted to noises because I don't even know how to express my disappointment

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in this shit.

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Run, run, run, run, run, run.

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It's so bad.

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It's so dumb.

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I don't know.

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I know that there's not a ton of people listening to this, but I don't know how anybody is listening

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to this anymore.

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Yeah.

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Fuck this.

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Anyway, we'll be back on Monday.

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Well, you gotta get your racism somewhere and some people don't like going to the Fox

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News, man.

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This is better places for your racism.

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I would say that like, if anything, what this diminished quality and Alex's show is probably

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doing is pushing people to much harder stuff.

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Yeah.

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Like a Ruby Tuesday.

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Sure.

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You know what's going on there.

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I don't.

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Yeah.

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Well now you do.

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Oh man.

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They're having the meetings at the Ruby Tuesday?

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Yep.

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Oh no.

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Everybody knew that.

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They had to leave a Bennigan's.

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Bennigan's would no longer handle the alt right anymore.

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You gotta respect Bennigan's.

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That's not a popular decision.

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They're going to get a lot of bad Yelp reviews.

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Absolutely.

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You gotta take a stand.

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You gotta take a stand somewhere.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know.

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We'll be back on Monday with whatever, probably 2009 stuff because I can't, I can't do this

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much.

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Yeah.

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We gotta take a break for a bit.

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I can't do this modern day stuff.

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You expect to find one thing and you find nothing.

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Nothing but atrocities.

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Anyway, we have a website, knowledgefight.com.

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Indeed we do.

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What if you wanted to find us on this social media network?

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You could find us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.

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What if you wanted to watch the social network?

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You could do that.

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I think you do.

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What?

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Torrent?

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Kazaa?

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Was that how you would do it?

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Maybe.

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Maybe it's on Amazon prime.

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What social network was that based on though?

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Facebook.

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All right.

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Can we be found there?

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You can on Facebook.

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We also have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.

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Indeed we do.

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We are on iTunes.

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You can leave a review.

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You can do the whole thing.

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Yes.

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Very much.

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You can.

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Guys.

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What's up Dan?

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I feel like you've got some information you've got to get off your chest.

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You've been hiding this for so long.

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It's time to come clean.

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Well, I would say I don't have a lot of experience with gaming.

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It's not a big part of my life.

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But I know that by and large, NPCs, non-playable characters, most of the time they exist to

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have dialogue with you.

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Maybe like in Skyrim, maybe you talk to somebody and it starts a quest.

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They give you a quest.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, there's a lot of that.

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NPCs are actually very important to the quality of the game.

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Really speaking, you can't really play the game without them because they precipitate

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a lot of the action.

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They're an essential piece.

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And a lot of the time, they don't kill you.

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But one guy I do know has killed somebody, probably, technically, and that's Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.