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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan?
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Yes Jordan.
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Dan?
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You have a question today?
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Yeah, uh, when was the last time you yourself tortured and dismembered a journalist?
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Never, I can say that I have never.
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Never? Never.
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I've annoyed some journalists, certainly.
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Okay.
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When I went to the University of Missouri, I wrote for my campus paper, The Man-Eater,
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for three years, six semesters, while I was in college, and would routinely go to the J-Slums.
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It was the journalism, it was the building that all the journalism students lived in,
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and it was like a pretty shitty apartment building, and they called it the J-Slums, isn't it cool?
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Sure.
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Anyway, they had a bunch of parties there, and me and my buddy Nicky Gifts, he was my roommate at the time,
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we were a couple townie dicks, and so what we would do is we would get a fifth of whiskey and a 12 pack of beers.
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Yeah.
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And we would drink, we would split the whiskey at the house, watching mostly the same rap videos every weekend.
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Right, that sounds right.
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We would, like, I was raised in the projects by Project Pat, Good Googly Moogly by Project Pat.
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Oh yeah.
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Lot of Project Pat.
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Lot of Project Pat.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I already assumed that.
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When you go with one and then to two, the answer is eight or nine.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So there was a lot of Project Pat, us drinking this whiskey, and then we would take the 12 pack and go crash parties.
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And a lot of the time we would end up at the J-Slums, and man, I don't think those people liked me much.
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In hindsight, I could have been much nicer.
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Like, I wasn't a dick to people, but I was so socially...
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Inept?
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Yeah, I was going to say unskilled.
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I was just like, there was like a sense of like, I'm a mysterious force.
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I write for your paper, and you don't even know who I am.
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And I was fucked up by the time I got there.
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Of course!
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It was not the best time, but still some fond memories.
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So in many ways you have tortured a few journalists.
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I stopped short of calling it torture.
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But you have not...
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What?
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That one that you waterboarded?
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I didn't waterboard anybody.
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Although...
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I shouldn't admit this.
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One time...
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Technically I did dismember a guy.
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One time I did jump in the air and fart midair so I could fart on somebody.
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Alright.
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That's close to torture.
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That is not torture.
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That is a feet.
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You know what?
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That's a feet, Dan.
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I was 19.
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I was full of piss and vinegar and drunk as hell.
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Trying to impress Nick.
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And I assumed some sort of ribs if you were in Missouri at the time.
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Sure.
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And at the time I didn't know anything about Alex Jones, but now I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I am back where you were back then.
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Indeed.
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Without the jump farting.
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I can't do both of those at the same time.
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But I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones.
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And about my college chicanery.
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And about jump farting.
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Yeah.
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I didn't realize that was a thing, Mr. Mario Party.
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I was innovative, man.
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I was innovative in the fart game.
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You were ahead of your time.
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Yeah.
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I regret that very much.
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I mean, I don't.
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It wasn't that terrible, but at the same time it's like, that's very out of my personality
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and character.
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As soon as I grew up a little bit.
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As long as it's 15 years ago, that's hilarious.
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If you had done it like in a party last week, I would be like, one, you're 34.
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Yeah, you're out of control.
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And two, you've got to stop dismembering people.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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So Jordan, today we've got a really fun episode to do.
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But before we get to it, I would like to give a couple of thank yous to people who I would
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never jump and fart on.
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Nice.
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Not at all.
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Well done.
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Thank you.
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These are people who have decided to join up and support the show.
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We appreciate them oh so very much.
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First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much to Travis.
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Travis, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Travis.
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Thank you very much, Travis.
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You're my favorite county.
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Travis County in Austin.
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Named after the great Colonel Travis.
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I'd also like to say thank you so much to Eric.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you, Eric.
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Thank you very much, Eric.
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Then what I'd like to do is I'd like to say thank you to someone who took their donation
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and bumped it up a little bit.
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Before we do that, I got to know.
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C or K.
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What are you talking about?
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It's a C, Eric.
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Yeah.
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It's a C.
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But also they definitely used a fake email address.
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Oh, yeah?
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Because it's a.beer email address.
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I generally don't pay attention to people's email addresses when I get a little notification
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that someone has supported the show, but that stuck out to me.
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That's a fake email address.
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How about that?
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I thought that was charming.
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Not as charming though.
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Nah, that's not there.
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There you go.
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It's a push.
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Thank you to someone who has taken their donation, bumped it up a little bit.
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We appreciate it very much.
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Adam, you are now a globalist.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Now, Jordan, one more person to say thank you to.
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This is very special.
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It is a rare occasion around these here parts that what we get to do is we get to induct
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a new raptor princess into the fold.
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Whoa.
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What?
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Someone who has decided to support the show in a way that even makes me uncomfortable,
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but I very much appreciate.
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This is someone who has sent us some very nice emails in the past, and we appreciate
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them very much.
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From the bottom of our Alex Jones and propaganda filled hearts, we would like to say thank
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you so much.
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Chris S., you are now a raptor princess.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser.
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Little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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Jesus Christ.
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I know how to read.
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I am out of control.
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I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life.
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I really haven't.
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I bet you money.
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There are few living black people that have been abused by white people as much as I have
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been abused by black people.
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Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses.
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Complete studs.
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Welcome to McDonald's.
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May I help you?
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I'm Benny Sanders.
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Thank you so much, Chris.
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We appreciate it.
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There's a reason we can't inaugurate a lot of raptor princesses.
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It takes a lot of work.
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It takes 45 seconds listening to Alex say stupid shit.
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Today is wacky Wednesday.
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Hey, wacky Wednesday.
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And today we'll be going over an episode of Project Camelot and, guys, this is so very
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exciting.
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I got to tell you, straight up, Carrie Cassidy went back to Vacaville.
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Uh-oh.
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Went back to that prison and talked to Mark Richards and it's time for installment nine?
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Oh, man.
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How is this possible?
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It's wild.
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What more can you wring out of the man?
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Actually, there is some new information here and one of the things that she...
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Of course there is, Dan.
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One of the sort of main goals I think that she had was to run other people's stuff by
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him because she's getting lied to by a lot of people, Eddie Page.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think she wants to fact check some stuff with him, which seems like a fool's exercise.
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Your heart is in the right place, I guess.
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I don't know if it is.
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But it's the dumbest...
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But then I have to fall back on...
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Of course there's a ninth installment.
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How do I even...
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Oh, there's going to be a tenth one in a month.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How the fuck do I even know if she went there and if he doesn't give her any new stuff,
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she's just going to make it up herself.
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I'm positive that she did go because she spends about five minutes of this episode, which
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I don't have any clips of, complaining about how she was told that her outfit wasn't appropriate
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for prison.
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Okay, fair enough.
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You can't make that shit up.
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She's like, I'm not allowed to wear high heels because that's considered a weapon.
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But then I get inside and I see other people in high heels.
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I'm like, yeah, maybe that's okay when they're not talking to a fucking murderer.
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Maybe he's on a much higher standard of security.
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Or maybe they've seen you talk to this guy eight other times and they're like, this isn't
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for anybody but you.
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We're worried you're going to hurt yourself with those shoes because lady, you are fucking
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nuts.
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And this would be the place to do it if you want to really make it count.
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So Jordan, we have got installment nine of what Carrie calls, Carrie Cassidy, the host
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of Project Camelot, she calls total recall because as we all know, just to lay a little
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bit of track, she goes and interviews Mark Richards in prison because he killed a guy
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who was involved in a murder, orchestrated a murder.
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He made sure that a man was alive and then was very shortly not alive.
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Who mysteriously owed him money and he took a safe from him.
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Crazy.
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He was off planet, Dan.
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He was off planet.
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Um, so she goes, I'm waiting for that to be Prince.
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Uh, uh, uh, now I can't remember.
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Salmon.
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I'm waiting for that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm waiting for that to be his like, no, Saudi Arabia was off planet at the time.
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Come on, man.
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Works.
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Yeah.
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So she's not allowed to use a recorder when she goes and interviews Mark.
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She's allowed to sometimes have a pencil, sometimes a crayon.
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And she writes down the answers that he gives her to bizarre, stupid questions.
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And, uh, we get to enjoy, I'll say this, Jordan, I, I sort of referenced this as you came into
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the apartment today.
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And that was that, like, I worried that we wouldn't be able to do an episode when I was
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listening to this, um, earlier.
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And one of the reasons was I was like, this kinda is boring as shit.
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I was like, this is a little bit boring.
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Uh, but then I listened back to it again and I was like, oh, I missed a lot of stuff.
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Okay.
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So thankfully it was just my first, uh, you know, sometimes you read a book first time
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through it doesn't grab you.
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Right.
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Second read, you start to realize some of the nuances.
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Right.
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Um, that's how literally everyone feels about a separate piece.
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I don't know anything about a separate piece.
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All right.
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I can tell you.
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Yeah.
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It would be a very boring podcast.
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Your first listen.
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But second time.
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Second time.
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It'd be great.
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It's new theory before we go any further.
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New theory.
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All right.
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The prison itself, zero limitations on what sort of recording devices that you are allowed
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to use.
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Okay.
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Mark Richards is fucking with her and he has convinced a few of the guards to go along
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with it.
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That is a possibility.
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I'm not sure.
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I did actually find the prison that he's in and I looked at their like a visiting rules
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and it's not specified either way about whether or not you can have a pencil or pen or anything
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like that.
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But it's not pencils and pens are not listed in the approved materials, but it's also not
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listed in like restricted materials.
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So I don't know.
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I can't say either way.
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Anyway, we start this episode as we start every project Camelot episode with Carrie's
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introduction to her episode.
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Hi everyone.
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I'm Carrie Cassidy from project Camelot.
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Hi Carrie.
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I am here today to go over the notes from my recent interview with captain Mark Richards
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of the secret space program.
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Grandson of the Dutchman.
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Son of the Dutchman.
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Oh, he's son of the Dutchman.
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Although we do learn, I believe in this next clip that his grandfather was also in the
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secret space program.
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Of course.
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He may not have a fun nickname.
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Now I understand that a lot of people who are listening to the show might not have listened
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to our past adventures with Mark Richards, captain Mark Richards, excuse me.
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So they may not know a lot of what's going on here.
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And thankfully at the beginning of this episode, uh, before she gets into it, Carrie gives
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a little bit of a breakdown of some of the relevant information you need to know about
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uh, Senora Richards.
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I recently went to interview captain Mark Richards who has been involved in the secret
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space program since he was a young child actually.
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And his father was also involved as well as his grandfather, if I understand it correctly.
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And his father was known as the Dutchman.
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He was quite famous in those sort of secret space program circles.
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If you want to call it that the military, as well as in the British, uh, in, in Britain
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with the British and uh, Mark has a long history, as I say, with regard to the secret space
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program, he basically grew up in it.
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Basically he grew up in, he's like the Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
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Why does that?
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I have no idea why that happened.
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Because he grew up in show business.
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Jonathan Taylor Thomas.
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Yeah, but you could have gone with Ron Howard.
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Ron Howard has a good, continuously great career, much like the Dutchman.
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Mark Richards absolutely doesn't have a continuous awesome career.
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You know what?
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He is a lot like JTT.
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Yeah, maybe that's why.
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He was a star in his youth and now he's slowly fading away.
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So other things, Carrie's sort of really underselling this, uh, just saying that Mark Richards has
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been involved in the secret space program since he was a kid.
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He also had, like we referenced, he has a sentient spaceship named Minerva that he can
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fly around in.
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He is married to a lady named Joanne Richards who goes around and gives speeches on his
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behalf.
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I forgot that that is an actual real person.
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It is.
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I always, I always forget that Joanne Richards is like just a human being and not part of
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the grand mythology.
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Oh, she real.
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I am also married to Minerva and she has a hole, like I'm waiting for that.
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What I can confirm is that she's a CPA.
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That's about it.
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Huh.
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The rest of this stuff is I think she's being tricked by her husband who's in prison.
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Is she a good CPA?
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No idea.
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We'll never find out.
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I think we need to hire her.
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So there's a whole lot to his mythology.
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For our accounting, you know how we have so much accounting we need to do.
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So there's a lot to Mark Richards' mythology, but the most important thing that you need
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to know is that in 1984 he went to prison because he was, he orchestrated the murder
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of a guy who owed him money.
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He got two kids who worked at his tire shop, I believe.
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Something along those lines.
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I don't remember exactly what the business was, but associates that he knew from that,
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he offered them $5,000 in a car, a getaway car presumably, to go kill this guy and he
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was supposedly there when the murder was committed and they killed this guy with a hammer.
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So it seems like it should cost more than that and yet it never does.
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You know, like a real assassin works really cheap, you know?
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It turns out it's not a function of the job that needs to be done.
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It's a function of the desperateness of the person you're trying to get to do the job.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You could get your lawn mowed for like $200 by a professional crew or $3 to the neighbor
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kid.
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Right.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's that sort of thing.
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And you can, I mean for $200 you could convince the neighbor kid to kill the professional
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lawn crew.
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It's possible.
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Yeah, take over the business.
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You could give him a few money.
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So we know from living in reality that Mark Richards straight up did that shit.
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Unfortunately, Kerry doesn't believe that.
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Of course not.
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As far as I'm concerned, he is one of the best whistleblowers out there.
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The fact that he is in prison and has been for over 30 years is what the powers that
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be considered to be sufficient enough to discredit him so that he will not be believed.
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So he is at liberty to tell me quite a bit of information that you can't get anywhere
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else.
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So this is how we work this sort of rationale in here.
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He's in prison.
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He's been discredited so much that it doesn't matter if he tells the truth to Kerry, no
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one's going to believe him because he's a fucking murderer who's in prison anyway.
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So the powers that be are like, go ahead, say whatever you want, big guy, have fun there
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in that prison.
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All I'm saying is, even if he had murdered zero people and were free, if he were talking
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to Kerry, that would be enough to discredit him.
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I would say so.
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I mean, there's a low bar for Kerry.
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We've gone through plenty of episodes with Kerry talking to people who aren't in prison
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and I find them discredited.
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Now I will say I have a hard time believing that any of her guests are not eligible for
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prison.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like if anybody really wanted to look into it, every single person she has in her job,
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at least six months.
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At least six months in prison would be the low level guest of hers.
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Almost all of them, I would say, have maybe a civil fraud case that they're due for.
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I don't know if that means they go to prison, but they all should be sued by somebody.
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I'm not sure who, but somebody should sue everybody.
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So anyway, Mark is guilty of this being orchestrating a murder, but turns out he's not.
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He is innocent of the crime he's in for, and as I say, he spent over 30 years paying for
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a crime he didn't commit.
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And he is-
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He's the one armed man.
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Just for some context, he's been in prison like two months shorter than I've been alive.
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So back when I was jumping and farting on people, he was 19 years into his prison sentence.
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Let that give you some context.
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Sure.
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Said to be the mastermind of two other people who actually committed the murder.
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One of whom got off, I guess, by riding on the other one.
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He cut a deal because he was like, oh my God, I'm going to be in prison for the rest of
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my life.
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I didn't actually kill that guy.
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When I was involved, I will cut a deal.
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Very common.
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He's a rat.
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As well as Mark.
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And then now this guy, whose name is Croson David Hoover, apparently is talking to a journalist
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who's a radio talk show host in Britain, who has decided to make a documentary supporting
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the murderer against Mark Richards.
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And you kind of have to say to yourself, why would this person do this?
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But nonetheless, that's what's happening.
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So many reasons.
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So many reasons.
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There's so many reasons.
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I would say one of the biggest reasons is that Mark promised them that they would be
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Knights of a New Camelot after he, after the murder, ended up taking over Marin County.
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So I would say that that's a great reason to make that documentary.
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That's a crazy fucking story.
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That's a crazy fucking story.
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It's amazing.
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I can't wait for that documentary.
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I would love to hear what he told me.
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I'm going to watch the shit out of that documentary.
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I would love to hear these kids' perspective, like what they experienced.
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So did Mark Richards give an interview to that guy?
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No.
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Come on.
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He has to have.
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Why not?
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He's got, he's throwing caution to the wind.
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Well, to be fair, in the next clip, Carrie will explain that Mark can't talk about his
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legal issues and the documentary issues.
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Because there are so many appeals withstanding?
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Well, kind of.
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Mark Richards has been working with a lawyer.
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He and his wife.
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He's always been working with a lawyer.
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To get a commutation of his sentence, which is long overdue, and this sort of happening
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on the side is not a good thing, obviously, to have a filmmaker want to make a documentary
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that is supposed to be a negative influence, I guess, on the public attitude towards Mark.
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But nonetheless, what's happening now is that they are not able to talk to anyone about
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the case simply because they are involved with a lawyer in getting a commutation of
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his sentence.
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And hopefully that will happen.
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Sure.
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Doubt it.
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Good luck.
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Doubt it.
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Good luck there, Marky.
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Doubt it.
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Come on, Richards.
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You better have the funky bunches, your lawyers.
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He has life without parole.
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From what I understand, the guy who committed the murder has the possibility of being paroled.
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Right.
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So I would say...
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Because he was just a guy and Mark Richards is a fucking psychopath.
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Yeah.
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I think the facts of the case bore out in such a way that like, huh, who's the most
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dangerous here?
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Who has the potential for rehabilitation?
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I would say it's scarier that the kid actually was the one who did the murder.
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That's scary.
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You would think that that should come with a heavier sentence.
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Yeah, like a jump fart.
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But at the same time, I think that it's probably pretty reasonable at this point, 30 years
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later, 34 years later, if that kid, now an adult, has rehabilitated himself, he's not
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going to commit another murder unless another Mark Richards gets him to.
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Yeah.
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And he's not gonna do that because he was an impressionable kid at that point.
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So like the idea that that kid could get out and Mark can't, I'm fine with.
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Although at the same time, I don't like the prison system.
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So I'm a little conflicted.
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I have no idea.
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I would need to know so much more about the...
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I know one character involved who should not be allowed to get out of prison.
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That's Mark Richards.
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I was trying to look into this prison too because I was like, I bet this is like a cakewalk
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prison that Mark is in.
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I bet it's...
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No way.
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The only...
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No way is it a cakewalk prison.
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The only story I could find was from a couple of years back, there was like a big fight
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that broke out in the prison.
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Twelve died.
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In the aftermath, they found a guy who was cut in half.
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What?
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Yeah.
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What?
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Yes.
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You can't even do that.
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He was cut in half.
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It's hard to cut a guy in half.
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Totally.
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Especially in prison.
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It's not...
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It's a whole process.
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What is this?
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Totally.
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What is this, the Saudi embassy?
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It's tough to cut a guy in half.
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Guy was cut in half and stuffed in like some like a trash disposal things, like trying
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to hide the body.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Also, in the investigation, they found a couple of his organs were missing and from the articles
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I could find...
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They were sold?
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I didn't look...
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Somebody sold a...
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I didn't look too deeply into this.
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I'm sure there's a resolution somewhere, but the stories that I were reading was like,
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no one knows what happened to those organs.
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How do you not know?
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What?
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How do those organs get out of us?
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Who is smuggling a fucking cooler in and out of a prison fight for a...
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All right.
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Guys, here's our plan.
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We're going to sell a liver, a kidney, and fuck it, why not, 40 feet of intestine, but
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we got to start a huge prison fight.
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We got to cut a guy in half using homemade shivs and then we're going to get a cooler.
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This is Ocean's Eleven, but in a prison with a guy who gets cut in half.
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I've watched a fair amount of like lockup and this story was like, what the fuck?
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I was like, I want to learn more about this, but it's so tangentially related to the work
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I'm supposed to be doing that I'm going to look into that later, but it's like, that's
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the prison that Mark's in where it got cut in half.
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No, that's a bad prison.
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Yeah, no, that's where he belongs.
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I kind of get wanting to pretend and imagine, fantasize about the idea you're going to have
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your sentence commuted though, if you're living in that sort of...
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Mark was at that prison when that happened.
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That's in his consciousness.
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That's terrifying.
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Who did it?
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I don't know.
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I'll tell you who did it.
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The fucking lieutenant.
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No, no.
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Yeah.
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At Mark Richard's behest because Minerva actually feeds off of organs.
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She was fucking running low on fuel, needed a few organs and he was like, listen, I can't
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get my hands all over this.
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Lieutenant, whom I have only spoken of one time, have never brought up again or before.
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You got to cut a guy in half.
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I was praying, not praying, I guess, it wouldn't make me happy, but I was kind of interested
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like, am I going to recognize any of the players in this article, like the guy who died or
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like the suspect?
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Am I going to know who these people are because of Project Camelot?
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It's a concerning thought.
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Yeah.
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But it turns out it's unrelated to Mark Richard's apparently, but related because I mean, it's
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the same place.
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It's fucked up.
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Real fucked up.
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It's like, I'm more interested now in like being called to deposition for his commutation
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sentence or his commutation hearing where it's like, we have brought in two random ass
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guys who have talked about Mark Richards a lot.
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Do you guys feel like he should be, well, I suppose we have to have a, why do you, alright,
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testimony accepted.
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There wouldn't be a commutation hearing because there's no hearing.
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It's just like the governor would decree it or something like that, but it's not even
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going to come to that, Jordan.
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He doesn't need to have his sentence commuted because Carrie knows something.
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Oh God, she does.
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Carrie knows something.
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I don't know what it is.
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She's gotten some information from a source about the future of Mark Richards.
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Now for those of you that know that I've interviewed Simon Parks many times and recently.
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He's the guy, if you don't recall, he used to be a council person in the UK who would
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about, let's say like two or three times a year would leave planet and have sex with
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an alien.
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Yeah.
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Well again, by far the most heroic character on Project Carameline.
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The sanest of the craziest.
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Of course.
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And more than once he has said that Mark Richards will likely be pardoned very soon by Trump
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as a result or after what is basically the indictments that are going through right now.
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So the indictments are being pursued.
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There's something like 40,000 to 50,000.
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And according to Simon Parks, once those happen, Mark Richards will be.
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So Carrie believes in QAnon.
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That's QAnon shit, baby.
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Is it?
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Yep.
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What?
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QAnon's conspiracy and the reason that people get excited about it is part of the narrative
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is that the Justice Department has secretly filed 40,000, 50,000 sealed indictments that
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are just ready to go.
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And that's why they keep making all these stories up about Hillary Clinton's fleeing
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the country before these indictments get unsealed because she knows she's going away forever
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once they get unsealed.
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Sure.
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That sounds right.
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That sounds like the justice system.
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Sure.
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That's the big piece of the QAnon stuff.
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QAnon.
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Still happening.
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Carrie.
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Still doing it.
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Keeping it alive.
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People are still doing it?
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These indictments are going to come down.
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They're going to roll up all the evil forces in government and then there'll only be good
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people there.
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That doesn't sound right.
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And in part of that, Trump is going to pardon Mark Richards for some reason.
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Yeah, sure.
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Why not?
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Because he knows about the secret space program.
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Right.
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He knows.
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But why would you pardon him?
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Trump knows.
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That's why he's doing Space Force and fucking Mark Richards is going to be the head of it.
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All right.
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Well, one thing I will say.
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He's the only good one.
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One thing I will say.
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Now that I know a guy has been cut in half in that prison, I kind of am fine with the
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no pens or pencils rule.
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Yeah.
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And stilettos.
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Yeah, I'm fine with all of those rules.
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You know what, you guys, you do your thing.
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You had a guy dissected crayons from now on.
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Crayons from now on.
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That's totally reasonable.
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Unreasonable though to think that QAnon stuff is true and that somehow it's going to intersect
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with Mark Richards.
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It's still going on.
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People are still into it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Can't people just stop after a while?
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It's tough, man.
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It's tough.
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We get so distracted by so many other narratives.
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Why are you sticking with this one?
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Let it go.
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Move on.
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Well, because a lot of people get tricked.
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And so there is like a there's an ego aspect to it that like if you buy into it.
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Oh, yeah.
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And later being like, ah, that was all bullshit.
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Then you're going to have to admit to yourself like I got tricked by bullshit.
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Right.
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Like the Republican Party.
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Sure.
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And then the other aspect too, much like this is also applicable to the Republican Party,
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is that like lost time fallacy.
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That sort of idea of like, I've put a year into studying this QAnon stuff.
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That time is wasted if I now decide it's all full of shit.
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Sunk cost.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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People get they're very susceptible to those sorts of things.
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So I think that a lot of people who should see the light and be like, this is all nonsense.
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They won't.
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They won't.
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Because those forces.
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It's QAnon sense.
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Yeah.
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It's QAnon.
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New term coined.
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That's a musical.
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Puppets?
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A 28.
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I'm going to have to go with puppets on this one.
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A 2018 reimagining of nonsense.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I'm listening.
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It's just nonsense.
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Not a direct sequel.
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Nope.
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It's just nonsense.
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But it's all about these sealed indictments and Trump saying it's the calm before the
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storm and everybody losing their fucking mind.
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All right.
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I see.
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I see a little bit of Mamma Mia in there, too.
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I think there should be three suitors.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Jerome Corsi is the main character of this.
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Too boring.
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No, but he's an interesting sort of conduit to tell the story because he was so into it
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that it turned against him and then he's like, it's almost.
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So he would be an interesting protagonist because his journey.
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He's the audience stand-in.
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He's the only person who has a journey.
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Right, right, right.
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And he grows and changes.
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And he has the crisis point somewhere along the line.
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Just like that fucking nun.
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When the 4chan post started saying, Jerome Corsi's full of shit.
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He's like, oh my God.
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They personally attacked me.
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I was just trying to harmonize.
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I thought you were going to go for another line.
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Nah, I was going to let that one go.
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Fair enough.
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Yeah.
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So Carrie went to the prison to go talk to Mark, but you should know.
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Yes.
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And she wasn't the only interview that she had planned.
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It's also important that people realize or are aware that I went to interview someone
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else this time as well on my way, but that person who had originally been interested
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in doing an interview with me suddenly backed out.
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And what happened was, I think he must've been intimidated.
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He suddenly acted as though he barely knew me.
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That makes sense.
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And so that when I arrived in his vicinity, he was no longer available.
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And on top of it, he said, he quote unquote, knows nothing about the secret space.
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Even if he did, it would be a felony to divulge anything about it, which is tantamount to
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saying that it's real and basically that he doesn't know something, but that he's no longer
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able to talk.
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So he said, this is not the time for in-person interviews, for in-person discussions and
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so on and so forth.
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So this is what was going on.
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So it's very interesting because this is a very tense time.
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It's quite an exciting time, a time when the Trump administration, the people that are
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backing him, basically the military, these indictments are coming through.
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There's 40,000 to 50,000, as they say, and in theory, they're actually pursuing them
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as I speak.
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In theory, in reality, she's just sort of combining sort of Alex Jones's mythology with
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QAnon there.
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He's talking about the military being on the side of these Patriots and what have you,
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and then throwing in the QAnon sealed indictment shit.
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It is a very exciting time to be alive when you're into this stuff.
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A year from now is not going to be that exciting when your narrative hasn't evolved at all.
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The same thing, it's like 2012, the end of 2012 was probably incredibly exciting for
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Kerry.
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Oh, for sure.
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You had the whole lead up, you could do the whole thing, and then it's like, ugh.
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The beginning of 2013 was probably tough.
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There was a hangover.
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You had a little bit of like a-
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Oh boy, we got to start from scratch, I guess.
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We got to do the whole thing all over again, guys.
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So Kerry thinking that she's going to go interview someone and the guy being like, no, that doesn't
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seem suspicious to me at all for myriad reasons.
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No, I'm pretty sure that confirms everything that Mark Richard says is true.
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One of the reasons this doesn't even raise any alarms for me is, remember back on that
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episode where she was interviewing the guy who works at a bus station or takes pictures
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of the moon?
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Yeah.
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And she thought that she'd confirmed the time of the interview and then got on air and was
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like, I don't know where he is.
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He had a telescope though.
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Sure.
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But I'm talking about the professionalism of setting up the interviews.
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She clearly didn't confirm the time on that.
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There's a decent chance she just showed up at somebody's place and was like, this isn't
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the time.
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That actually makes perfect sense.
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It seems to follow her lack of professionalism vis-a-vis these interviews.
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No, you said we were going to record an interview.
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Yeah, we didn't agree on a fucking time, lady.
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Don't show up at my god damn house.
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This is not the time for in-person interviews.
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I have children who think I'm normal.
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There's a hundred different possibilities and none of them in the real world are, this
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guy is fucking scared because we're talking truth here.
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See, the only way I could think that she has any kind of option there is if it was another
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guy in the same prison.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like the lieutenant.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It could have been the lieutenant and they were in the same prison and he was like, listen,
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I'm not authorized to talk to you.
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I'm not good at improv.
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My eyebrow waggle suggesting that whatever it is you said was true is not up to par because
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my response is going to be like, come on man, that's stupid.
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So there is a fundamental problem with Carrie's interview that she does with Mark today and
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that is she sort of teased it at the end of that last clip, but she's talking about these
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are crazy times and in this next clip she introduces the idea that the times are so
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crazy that Mark maybe can't talk about some of it.
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Sure.
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So Mark says because it's such a heightened time, he was not able to talk about certain
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things with me.
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The block is hot.
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He has been instructed on what to say and what not to say.
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He does not have the internet.
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He is still working with the military.
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He is a captain in the secret space program.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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That's our high rank.
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In the Navy.
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And he is-
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And the Navy?
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No longer reporting to Bobby Rienman, he says.
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Bobby Rienman is no longer involved is how we put it.
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He is now-
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I'd like to say that I think that that's code for someone called Bobby Rienman.
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Reporting to a different sector of the US military, a division that he's not at liberty
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to disclose.
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Good.
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Cool, cool.
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He said one of the reasons he is able to talk, obviously, and other people may be more hesitant
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to do so, is that he is in prison and obviously has this disclaimer, which is in essence sort
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of a credibility issue.
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No shit it is.
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Well first off, now I've fully, I've really finally come to the conclusion that none of
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this is real because the secret space program and the Navy have had a long standing, bitter
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rivalry.
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They have been playing space football games every year and they've never been able to
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handle it.
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So the Navy hates the SSB and the SSB hates the Navy.
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You can't be a captain in both.
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This makes me think of Howard Kramer, the Canadian Howard Kramer who loves summa.
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Ah, you gotta get yourself a summa gum dude.
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He has that whole thing about he hates movies that are in space because he likes the ocean.
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When you're talking about the secret space program and the Navy being at loggerheads,
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it's like, that's just a Howard Kramer bit.
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Mark Richards isn't living a Howard Kramer bit.
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Yeah, that actually sounds right.
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He's bringing the two together, he's synthesizing them.
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Oh man, if you get attacked by an octopus, you just punch it in the face.
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Got to.
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So, I love, first of all, I think that he has needed to get the specifics out of some
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of his story, lest people look into them.
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Right.
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Because he doesn't have the internet.
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Now he's reporting to a military organization that he can't name.
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Which is good.
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That should have been the case all along.
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Yeah, of course.
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That should have been, I don't know why he would ever say specifics about that sort of
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thing because this is a load of hot bullshit.
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That must have been the, for Carrie, that must have been like the best moment where
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she's like, thank you.
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If you don't give specifics, I don't have to defend any of your bullshit.
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This is so much easier.
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This is why I've been in the problem in the first place.
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Right, right.
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They're saying they know shit, and then they're using names, and then you can look it up.
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That guy brought me shit from a fucking video game.
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Don't tell me the name of your military organization.
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Any page is like the Pleiadian mothership is from this video.
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Now I've got to say that the makers of the video game know about Pleiadian.
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Yeah, god damn it.
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Why are you changing my narrative?
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Why are you making this so complicated?
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I'm Carrie the curator, okay?
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I'm not here trying to defend shit.
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Now look, Jordan, I know that we come from a position of assuming that Mark Richards
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is lying, because he is, but you should know-
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It's a strong position to start from, at least.
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But you should know something about him.
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What?
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He basically told me he would always tell me the truth, but if there were ongoing operations
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that were being conducted by his side or the side that involves the raptors and the military
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that he reports to, he would obviously not be revealing things that could endanger their
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operations, and he wanted me to know that.
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You better know that.
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Mark Richards isn't going to give up some sort of information that jeopardizes the precious
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raptor forces?
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How dare you assume?
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I'm going to lie to you if it jeopardizes the raptors.
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Think about what The Intercept did to Reality Winner, huh?
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Come on.
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We can't be doing that to the raptors.
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Raptor or not, Reality Winner did not deserve that kind of treatment.
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Mark Richards would agree with me on that, I'm positive about it.
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What sentence, what is the sentence that could do it?
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What do you mean?
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If the sentence you say to Carrie Cassidy is, I will never lie to you.
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First off, that should be disqualifying, but continue.
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We're going to continue with the sentence.
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The sentence is, I will never lie to you, but I will not divulge information regarding
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the sensitive raptor operations that are ongoing.
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I generally find that people who make unnecessary, just sort of out of nowhere blanket statements
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about things they won't do, usually are overcompensating a little bit.
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Maybe.
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It usually feels like they're talking to themselves.
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Right.
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A little bit.
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A little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know.
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That's just something I've felt over the course of my life.
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I don't know.
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Maybe Mark Richards is trying to tease her, like, I am lying to you.
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That's what I feel.
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That's 100% what I feel.
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He's trying to, he's trying to thin that knife's edge where it's like, I could lie to her on
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a lazier level and it would never bother me.
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Never.
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But there's no excitement there.
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No.
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There's nothing there.
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It's the thrill of the hunt.
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I need to be, I need to be found out.
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I'm like a serial killer.
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Part of my whole thing is I want to be caught.
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Why kill a rabbit that can't hurt you?
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Right.
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When you could kill a fucking tiger, right?
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I guess.
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It's the excitement of the danger.
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Yeah.
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I might lose this one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's, he's going to, he's like Icarus.
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He's flying too close to the sun.
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Be like, I'd never fucking lie to you.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But I want to see, there's a new documentary out about this guy who free climbs.
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I don't want to see that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I don't want to see that shit at all.
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That's the, that's the end of the synopsis.
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That makes me so uncomfortable.
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I can't, I can't handle that footage.
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Like the, the whole, the whole documentary is everybody on the, like, he's, he's free
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climbing this incredibly.
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I'm like a building?
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Oh.
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Up like this rock.
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That's essentially unclimbable.
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Even horse.
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Like it's this 3000 feet.
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It's crazy.
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No safety harnesses or, or at all.
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Is he a GoPro on?
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The biggest thing about the movie though is like the, the camera crew being like, are
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we, is it okay for us to film a guy and we, he might fall and die.
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Is that okay?
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I think it's okay.
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He would have done it anyway.
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We're kind of encouraging him though, by doing this, are we, do we share any
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fault here?
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Does he have a GoPro on?
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Cause that's going to be whether or not I see this movie.
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Uh, I don't know.
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It's probably super intense though.
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Because I, I bet you're going to be on the edge of your seat, Dan.
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I've seen those videos that people post of them like climbing up buildings and stuff
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like that, jumping from ledges, like hundreds of feet in the air, hundreds of floors in
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the air and take GoPro footage.
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I can, I feel it in my teeth.
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Like it makes me so fucking uncomfortable.
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Your mirror neurons fire in a way that you can't comprehend.
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So if it's a documentary that triggers that, pass, I pass on that, but then again, I like
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man on wire.
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That was good.
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Um, but that also wasn't GoPro footage.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I will, I will tell you this right now.
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I, I, you shouldn't see this movie.
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You shouldn't see this movie from, from the, the slightest bit I've seen and read about
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it.
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It's like, Hey, have you ever had your balls drop way later in life?
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That's what it feels like.
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I'll let you be excited about that documentary.
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And I will continue to be excited about the fact that there's a Luigi's mansion coming
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out on the switch.
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Sometimes next year.
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I wasn't a big fan of the original, but he was on super Nintendo, right?
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Nope.
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GameCube.
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Oh, launch title on a, the GameCube.
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I just don't like ghosts.
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Oh, I love that.
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Luigi's mansion so much.
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Wasn't he dead?
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It's such a different functionality.
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No.
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Mario is dead.
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Somebody was dead.
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Oh, Mario got kidnapped by King Boo and put into a painting.
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Oh, that sounds right.
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Then, uh, Luigi had to go around this house and find a bunch of money.
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That makes more sense than what Mark Richards is saying.
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I love Luigi's mansion.
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I apologize for it.
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Okay.
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Anyway.
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Um, in this next clip, yes, we find one of the first instances of Mark, uh, having something
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he can't talk about, uh, the Carrie brings up and then Carrie spins a little bit of a
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yarn about it.
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And guess what?
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This is one of those things that I can actually tell you the truth about on the other end
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of this.
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Hey, we talked about then the sun and he said this was the, an area he could not talk to
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me about or couldn't say much about we did talk about the New Mexico observatory that
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has been closed.
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That story is very well known at this point.
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Um, a lot of misleading stuff in the mainstream media and also in the alternative, a lot of
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people not getting the real story behind it.
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I have had some very excellent source material on this coming from a secret witness who,
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uh, you could say infiltrated that sort of the back channel chatter going on at the observatories.
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There were seven others around the world that were also closed down.
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So the whole FBI raid does not hold water.
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The FBI were certainly were simply that this sort of a dog and pony show that you were
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supposed to be misled by sounds right.
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Uh, what the information I got was from this sort of secret source, which I did disclose
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to Mark.
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So we're kind of having this, um, trading of information more is more to the point of
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what really goes on when I talked to Mark.
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But at any rate, what happened was with the solar observatory in New Mexico and the other
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laboratories, they were attempting to use a kind of technology, which is called possibly
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based on quantum mechanics.
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So possibly based on quant.
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Come on, man.
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If you're going to do any futuristic technology, you got to jump to quantum computers.
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That's where we're, that's the Vanguard of existence right now.
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You can't say possibly based on quantum mechanics, everything.
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If you're going to go sci fi now, you got to jump to quantum computing.
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Well, but you also need to have an explanation of what the fuck you mean.
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And she doesn't have an explanation.
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She, that's where her explanation of this ends.
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Yeah.
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Possibly could be quantum mechanics.
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And she said that like she started the sentence by saying there's this technology that was
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being used.
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That's called it.
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You, it might use quantum mechanics and that's bad.
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There's this theory about strings.
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So you ever hear of it?
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So I don't know if you know about this Jordan, but this is something that Carrie has brought
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up in a couple of episodes that I've deemed not worth talking about.
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There was a, the national solar observatory in New Mexico that got shut down mysteriously.
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Do you know about this?
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Have you heard about this?
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No.
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It's interesting.
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Is it cause they finally found the sun?
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Yep.
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No more need for this.
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It's up there.
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We got to stop looking for this shit.
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It's been there the whole time.
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Hey guys, it's up.
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So Carrie's version of the story and the enemy's gate is down.
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Carrie's version of the story is that the national solar observatory in sunspot, New
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Mexico was closed down along with many others as she brought up there in that clip seven
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others due to something to do with an unnamed and unexplained mysterious technology that
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may or may not involve quantum mechanics as is pretty much always the case on project
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Camelot Carrie's reality is far more fun than the actual reality from the Washington post
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quote.
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What appears to have triggered the observatory's complete shutdown was a janitor who had allegedly
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been using the observatory's wifi to download and distribute child pornography according
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to a newly unsealed court documents, janitor was distributing child pornography.
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That's the unnamed technology.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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That's the conspiracy theory that she's cooked up about the idea that this national solar
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observatory was closed.
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That's the way she and the conspiracy community online explained the closure of this place.
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But in reality, when all the dust settled and all the details were able to come out,
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it turned out a janitor was fucking distributing child pornography on their wifi.
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That was it?
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Well, there's more to it.
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Okay.
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That's fucked up though.
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Like on all, there are zero, that's fucked up all across the board.
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What?
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Yep.
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Those are the newly unsealed court documents.
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In July, FBI agents investigating child sexual exploitation traced the location of several
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IP addresses linked to child pornography activity to the observatory.
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And to the sun.
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According to a 39 page search warrant application.
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During an interview with the federal authorities on August 21st of this year, the facility's
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chief observer said that he had found on a number of occasions the same laptop hidden
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and running in various seldom used offices around the observatory.
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He described the contents of the laptop as quote, not good.
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According to court documents.
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That's I mean, that really sums it up.
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Yeah.
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It's not good.
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Not good.
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It's not good.
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I look on that laptop.
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It is not good.
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If you're, if you're investigating child pornography and your diagnosis is not good, I can, I can
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assume that in my world, that's the single worst thing that could possibly happen.
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Totally.
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I don't understand why the chief observer of this, uh, this solar observatory, the guy
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in charge of the place might not want to utter such words or something like that.
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Like I can understand someone using that sort of colloquialism when they know that they're
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talking to the authorities and the authorities are going to take care of it, you know, like
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saying it wasn't good.
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I, I, I, I, in that context, I get the euphemism peripheral vision only
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who no good, please, no, take it, take it away from my eyes forever, please.
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So after the, this, uh, happened when the chief observer went and spoke to the authorities,
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a federal agent was dispatched to investigate and he ended up taking that laptop, laptop,
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and it was found in one of the seldom used offices that, uh, uh, you know, was mentioned
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by the chief observer quote the day after the laptop was seized, the janitor was allegedly
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seen by the chief observer leaving the office where it had been found.
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The janitor asked the chief observer who relayed the interaction to federal agents if anyone
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had entered the office because the cleaning supplies he had left there were missing.
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Later the janitor claimed, quote, someone had been entering the observatory late at
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night in order to steal the wireless internet service and expressed concerns about lax security
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court documents reported.
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So what you see here very clearly, that guy wasn't even fucking trying from the document.
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You can do better than I left my cleaning supplies in there.
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Someone stole my mop.
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Yeah.
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So you can clearly see from the documented chain of events, this janitor is realizing
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that someone's onto him and he's trying to stealthily cover his tracks.
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This anxiety soon turns into outright panic.
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Again from the Washington Post quote, then the janitor's actions allegedly became even
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more bizarre, prompting the observatory staff to become worried about their own safety.
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Aside from continuing to feverishly search the facility, the documents state that the
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janitor said, quote, it's only a matter of time before the facility got hit.
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And then he, quote, believed there was a serial killer in the area and he was fearful that
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the killer might enter the facility and execute somebody.
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Because of his erratic behavior and his references to the potential murder of someone at the
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facility, the management of the solar observatory decided to shut the facility down and evacuated
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their employees for their own safety.
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The FBI did not make that decision and in fact it might have worked against their interests
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as they were still engaged in an active investigation.
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Right.
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Everyone online misrepresented and misreported the event as the FBI shutting down the observatory.
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And because it was an active investigation, no one in the know was willing to officially
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comment on it until much later, basically until mid-September when the story started
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to break.
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Right, right, right.
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When people were able to start talking about it.
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Right.
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So the reality is the guy shut down the observatory because he was like-
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Not just him, but the people in charge decided-
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No, no, no.
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That's what I'm saying.
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The FBI in the know was doing this not good stuff.
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Right, right, right.
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I'm not saying the janitor cut it-
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No, no, no.
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Shut it down.
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I know, I know.
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They shut it down because this janitor is literally going like, hey, people are going
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to get murdered if we don't all fucking deal with this.
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And the FBI-
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You kind of think that that might be-
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Because he's going to murder people.
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You don't know that for sure, but you can't take risks in that sort of situation when
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you know that someone has been using bootlegged Wi-Fi in order to distribute child pornography,
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they start acting super erratically when it's clear that the jig is up, and they start talking
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about the possibility that someone is going to be murdered because there's a serial killer
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in the area that's going to break in after he has said, oh, someone has been breaking
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in at night and using the Wi-Fi.
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He's already used that to sort of get a like, hey, that wasn't me, it was someone else who
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broke in.
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Now he's using that someone's going to break in and kill people.
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It is not super crazy to think that that reads like a threat.
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Right, right, right.
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Of course.
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And the FBI-
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So they shot him down.
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And the FBI, of course, as you pointed out, probably didn't want that to happen.
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They did.
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Yeah.
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Because it would only, like if they left it open-
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Let him get another laptop in-
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Exactly.
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Let him hang himself.
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To catch him in the act.
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Exactly.
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While we're observing-
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's already probably enough information and evidence in order to fucking nail him,
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but at the same time, it would be much easier in a controlled environment to allow him
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to be under surveillance and commit the crime that he was already committing in order to
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make the case that much easier.
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Man, and this guy's in Arizona?
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No, New Mexico.
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New Mexico.
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Still, not far away from the border.
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Sure.
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You should have just bailed.
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You should have just run.
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So during that in-between time, from when-
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Not that I want that guy to get away.
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I don't know what I'm doing.
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I don't know what I'm doing.
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Kill him.
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You just can't stop yourself from expressing decent strategy.
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That's all.
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Whether it's for villains or heroes, like, well, here's the way out of this one.
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Run.
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Run.
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I should be a consultant on any crime.
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An amoral consultant.
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Let's start a lobbying firm.
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That's what we should have done in the beginning.
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Totally.
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So during this in-between time, from when the people in charge of the solar observatory
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shut it down for their employees' safety, and the time when the truth and the story
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started to come out, when the FBI had enough evidence at their disposal that they could
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talk about, and people were given the clearance to comment in interviews, like the chief observer
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of the observatory.
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Right, right, right.
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During that in-between time, various highly credible, high-level anonymous sources and
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internet bullshitters started spinning their fanciful tales that the FBI shut down the
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place because they had spotted real aliens.
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And this was a huge cover-up.
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Even outlets like Zero Hedge got in on the act, reporting about the closure as if it
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was somehow suspicious.
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Along the way, it was pointed out that a bunch of other webcams of observatories were offline
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around the same time.
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So it must be a smattering of solar observatory closures, probably because they had spotted
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a giant sunspot that was going to destroy the world, and they didn't want that info
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getting out, which is kind of what Carrie is expressing in her theory when she's bringing
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up all these other places that were closed.
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She's not willing to be super specific with it, and that's fine.
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The online conspiracies were primarily initially about the idea that they had found real aliens,
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and then secondarily, once it became clear that there were a bunch of other webcams that
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were down of other observatories, it was like, they're trying to hide something from us that
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they found.
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It went away from being just about aliens, and then it became about the idea that they
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had found some...
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The world-destroying event that was...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Exactly.
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That was promised by Cthulhu.
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Right, right.
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So whoever pointed this out, the observation of all these webcams being down, whoever pointed
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that out failed to also point out that on the front page of the Solar and Heliospheric
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Observatory website, where you find all of these webcams, there's an announcement prominently
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displayed.
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Quote, we are updating the code infrastructure that provides access to SRHO data, images
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and movies.
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We expect the work to take several weeks.
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Bullshit.
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They were updating their website.
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Can't trust them.
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Yes, access to streaming from webcams was not functional, temporarily and completely
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unrelated to the situation in New Mexico.
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So what you have there is the confluence of, again, it's all intentional misunderstandings
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of information you could find immediately in the aftermath of the New Mexico Solar Observatory
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being closed.
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You couldn't have found that information because it was being kept really tight because they
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were trying to get this fucking janitor.
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Just think about what you could roll up with that.
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Who are you in business with?
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Yeah.
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You know, there is a possibility.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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You can do the whole thing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think it's a dangerous game to play because you don't know what kind of rogue variable
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this guy is.
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But at the same time, I fucking get it.
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If you're law enforcement, I get it.
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And no one's going to be able to talk about that.
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So the stupid people of the world, Kerry, her ilk, the people online start to try and
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find connections.
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They find all these webcams down.
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They don't know how to read.
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So they don't see the warning that says we're updating the website, it's going to take a
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bunch of weeks.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because it would take a lot of weeks.
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It would take a while.
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If you go and find some of these goddamn webcams sites, they're GeoCities pages.
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Of course, they should update this stuff.
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Really?
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No, that needs to happen.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There are a decade past these sites being at all passable.
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Like the software we use for nuclear technology.
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Sure.
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So anyway, all this is a bunch of bullshit.
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But that's so interesting to me that Kerry is so unwilling to - like if her version
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of this is true, then there are so many people who have willingly perjured themselves for
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no reason.
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Like all of the people who swore affidavits about this janitor, all of the law enforcement
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people who wrote these warrants, the people who made these 39-page declarations, like
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all of them are -
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30,000 to 50,000 indictments are coming down, Dan.
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You think those people aren't involved?
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I guess if you believe that, then you can believe anything.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But anyway, that's the reality of what happened in New Mexico.
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It's amazing to me how escalation actually works in this circumstance because like when
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we're dealing with Alex Jones and we're talking about normal things, the conspiracy is always
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they're covering up pedophiles.
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But in this case, when they were actually covering up - well, they weren't covering
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it up but they were kind of covering it up.
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It has to be alien.
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But that's a lot of - what you're sort of touching on, I think accidentally, maybe you
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don't even realize is that's a lot of what the QAnon stuff is about too.
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Like a lot of these sealed indictments are weird globalist pedophile networks and blackmail
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operations using pedophilia and stuff like that.
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So that belief is there and all these people have this false idea that all of this is coming
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down the pipe.
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You just got to - you got to trust it.
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You got to trust the process that's going on.
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It's all going to come to light.
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All these people are indicted already.
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They don't know it.
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Meanwhile, we have a situation here.
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Do we really need them?
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We have a situation here where there is an outright dude who is distributing child pornography
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in a government building.
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Yeah, that's bad.
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And Kerry's like, nah, that's cover up.
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That's just the cover story.
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Right, right, right.
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That's the cover story.
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But in reality, that's what's going on.
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I get why it's super disappointing for them though because it's just a janitor.
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You know?
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Totally.
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Like if it was the head of the solar observatory, then they got that big fish and they're going
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to - all science is based on pedophilia.
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Well, it's because they love movies.
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They love the sort of story that gets told from just overarching fiction.
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Yeah.
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Whereas actually, I mean if you wanted to tell this story in one of those ways, it would
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be very easy to do.
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This would be a great episode of Law and Order.
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It's fascinating.
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Well, it's fascinating because of the misunderstandings.
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It would be a great episode of Law and Order?
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SBU.
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All right.
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You get Oda Fin, Tutuola in there, you make this work.
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All right.
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But the thing that makes it like compelling -
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Wait, so you're telling me that this observatory looks at the sun?
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Who looks at the sun?
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There's all these kids out there that are looking at the sun.
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That's how they get them.
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They're called solar gleaners.
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So I don't know, that wasn't great.
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But a way to make this story more compelling for Carrie, if she wanted to actually look
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at the reality of it, there's a conspiracy you could go down.
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I'm not interested in going down it because I don't think it's worth my time.
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No, of course not.
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But the janitor was there because his parents owned a contract with a bunch of places.
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So there is -
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What?
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So there actually is a conspiracy theory story to be told here?
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I mean if you want to stretch for it really far, yeah.
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Yeah, then fucking throw it in there.
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But that's one of the reasons that he felt so protected in his career there and maybe
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one of the reasons why he didn't do what you thought, which is run, is because he's
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working there under the auspices of this powerful contract that his parents' company has with
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a bunch of other locations, probably a number of government contracts and stuff like that,
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whereas he is just working at this one facility.
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So there's a decent chance that he felt entitled and felt bulletproof or something
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like that.
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I mean that would be far too much for us to assume.
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But if Kerry wanted to weave something that falls in line with the QAnon beliefs, she
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should go that angle instead of it being a cover-up of something because it's all a
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lot of bullshit.
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Anyway.
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Underrated - from our consulting firm, this is going to be like the first rule.
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Underrated option, bail and run.
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You know, so many times if you had just really committed to bailing and running, you probably
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would have been fined.
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I would say it won't be rule number one, but it will be in the handbook.
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It will be in the handbook.
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In the handbook, the rule won't be just run.
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I didn't say just run.
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I said it's an underrated option.
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It's not even that it's an underrated option.
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It's that it is an option that is available to you for a while that will not be available
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eventually.
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There's a narrow window where you can.
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There's an expiration date on running and you need to be aware of that.
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There's always a countdown.
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That's our consultancy firm.
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There's always a countdown.
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Well, the thing with running is there's a time where you could run like the wind.
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You can - like you were born to run, Springsteen style.
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You can run freely, but then there'll be a time a little bit later if you wait too long,
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you can run, but it's going to be a fight.
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You might have to like - Somebody's going to get cut in half and you're not going to
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go anywhere.
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You might have to try and - You're going to stay in the same place.
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You might have to launch your car over a barricade or something, but you might be able to run.
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Then a little bit after that, there will be a time when running will not work.
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It will not be an option.
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You will get tackled on your way out of the house.
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Oh, yeah.
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So, be aware of that, villains.
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I guess.
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All right.
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Anyway.
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God, we got to get rid of our morals.
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That's what's been holding us back this whole time.
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Oh, well.
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I'm okay with that.
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In this next clip, I think not positive, but I think I've done a pretty good job of explaining
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to you what happened in New Mexico.
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Yeah.
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Now, Kerry has some - We're talking a little bit more about the sun.
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Simon Parks also had information about this.
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In addition, my source and Simon Parks' sources, and you can watch my interview with Simon
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Parks that happened a couple of weeks ago in September.
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If you want to get the story straight from him as to what his sources were saying and
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what my sources were saying and how that basically corroborates the data, that there was also
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some ships close to the sun that were being seen by the solar observatories, their cameras,
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that were affecting the frequency and or possibly, according to Mark, attempting to trigger what
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might be a solar event.
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This is also something that my source was alluding to.
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Oh, no.
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A solar event, Dan.
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Look at this.
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Look at this corroboration that's going on here.
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Should I put it on my calendar?
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What's a solar event?
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Quinceañera.
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Quinceañera?
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That's a holiday at best.
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It's an event.
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Usually celebrated while the sun's out.
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I don't know.
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What about spaceships trying to trigger a mass coronal event or something like that?
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That's what they're talking about.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Right.
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That's why they closed down the solar observatory.
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If you have a spaceship that can harness the power of the sun to create a coronal event,
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you probably have the technology to do stuff on a way more local level that wouldn't destroy
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a solar system.
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Oh, boy.
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That'd be more productive.
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I'm just saying if you can do one.
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Look, if you have the power to launch a nuclear weapon at somebody, you probably have the
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power to not launch a nuclear weapon but still do enough damage in a targeted way instead
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of a destroy the earth way.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Once you've reached that level of achievement, it's sort of implied, and maybe it's not 100%
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always this case, but it's implied that you have reached that category of attack or whatever.
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There's other things.
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There's other options at that stage, that level of the pyramid, as it were.
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Holy shit.
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We were totally going to make the sun explode and kill all of you, but we didn't even hear
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of the wheel.
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When did you guys invent that shit?
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You guys are crazy.
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We're going to be buds.
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Yeah.
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Look, she has Simon Parks coming in, more or less confirming stuff that a secret source
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told her.
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Mark Richards is kind of like, I can't talk about the sun, but wink, wink.
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Eyebrow waggle very intentionally.
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Exactly.
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So that's a lot of confirmation for her.
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She's like, basically, this is absolutely true.
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I've got these fucking liars all on the same page.
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All right, cool.
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So something is going on with the sun.
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You better believe it.
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I think you can reach the conclusion.
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There's definitely something going on with the sun that they don't want us to see.
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One of the things Simon Parks said about it was that they were trying to step down the
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frequency, and he actually said the good guys were trying to do this because the sun affects
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the consciousness on planet earth.
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And it is rising too quickly, apparently, by their estimation.
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And I'm not sure how this could be the good guys thinking this.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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It's rising too quickly.
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Maybe it's a certain faction.
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And so they are trying to interfere with that, at least temporarily, I'm told.
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The sun is rising.
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Okay.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right, guys.
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All right.
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Hold on.
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Hey, Jordan.
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Good luck.
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Hold on.
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Good luck.
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Hold on.
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What?
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What?
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The sun is rising too frequently?
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No, no, no.
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The frequency is rising too quickly because the frequency of the sun affects the consciousness
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of people on earth, which I guess is some sort of dumb space poetic way of discussing
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seasonal affective disorder or something.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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Do they mean the frequency of the light itself?
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The frequency with which you get sun?
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No, that's not what they're talking about.
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They're talking about some sort of electromagnetic band or something like that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it's not like a neutron star frequency, but I mean, it requires a certain frequency
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to support life.
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It can't be like a red giant or something along those lines.
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Fair.
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But come on, guys.
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Come on.
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Come on, guys.
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What are we talking about here?
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What are we talking about?
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You heard the clerk?
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What are we talking about?
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Walk yourself through it.
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What are we talking about?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know either.
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I'm trying to science this and it's not happening.
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Well, no.
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It's just a bunch of nonsense.
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And even Kerry is sort of manifesting that sort of reaction to it.
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It's like, I don't know why the good guys would say that the vibration's going up too
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quickly.
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We want to get to a higher vibration.
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Maybe there's factions within the good team.
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Sure.
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Just trying to make sense of all this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, it's all just remnants of trying to make sense of this bullshit story about the
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closing of the solar observatory along with these webcams being down.
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Trying to connect the two of them and create a coherent narrative out of it, which is what
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Simon Parks is in the business of doing, which is what Mark Richards is thrilled to do for
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Kerry when she comes with these questions for him.
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It's fascinating that when Kerry is confused, there are only two ways to go, which is either
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she's confused because it makes sense or she's confused because I am way more confused than
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is humanly possible.
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But a lot of the stuff that when you're confused by hearing her stuff, a lot of that stuff
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could easily be ironed out if you just spent some time in these stupid internet communities.
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So Jordan, in this next clip, we get another little bit of a bullshit story that Kerry's
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been going on about for quite a while.
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This is another one of her big sort of space narratives that unfortunately actually we
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can talk about.
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Okay.
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There is a relationship to the recently lost satellites and there were several satellites
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that we lost our contact with.
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They weren't demolished.
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They were simply, they went offline, so to speak.
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And there seemed to be a sort of war with the satellites going on in which some satellites
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we gained control of and some we lost control of.
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Sure.
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So that's related to...
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Because this is a giant intergalactic game of risk.
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Yeah.
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And to her, that's related to this shutting down of the solar observatory that's somehow
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involved with these satellites and stuff like that.
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I thought that was Eddie Page and his guilt.
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Hold on.
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All right.
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I'm sorry.
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Kerry keeps pitching the story that we lost contact with multiple satellites and it's
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some sort of weird chess game, risk game, as you said.
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But the reality paints a very different picture.
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The first instance...
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It's just a pedophile somewhere.
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Oh, no.
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The first instance that is of interest is what we covered back on the Eddie Page episode
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where this first came up.
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There are strong indications that Russia's space program was engaging in space espionage
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and that they were maneuvering their satellites into restricted areas to eavesdrop on other
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countries' satellites.
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This is the piece of news that most closely matches up with the timeline of Eddie and
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Kerry's conversation.
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But interestingly, there's been some satellite news this last year that's really interesting
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that they might be misrepresenting.
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Firstly, in April 2018, India lost contact with one of their satellites after something
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went wrong with one of the engine firings meant to raise it to a higher orbit.
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Most likely, this is a result of something mechanical going wrong as it was the second
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satellite-related failure since 2017 for the Indian space program, which, by the way, is
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low-key an awesome space program.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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In February 2017, they set the record for most satellites put into orbit from a single
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rocket with 104.
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No shit.
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Yeah.
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That's 104.
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That's pretty fucking cool.
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Yeah.
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Set the world record, India.
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Now, I mean, on the other hand, space junk is an awful thing that's going to eventually
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come back to bite us in the ass.
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So there's that, too.
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They also won the Asian space race to Mars in 2014 for a ridiculously cheap $73 million.
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No shit.
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Compared to NASA's $671 million that it took for them to get to Mars.
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Wow.
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So India has a really great space program, but they have lost a couple of satellites
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over the last few years.
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It's just something-
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That's reasonable, though.
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If you're tossing out 104 in one spacecraft, yeah, of course.
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So second, here's the name of this.
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The acronym is IMAGE, but the name of the satellite is the Imager for a Magnetopause
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to Aurora Global Exploration Satellite.
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That happens to a lot of women around 60, 65.
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Sure, sure.
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It's called IMAGE.
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They go to space.
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It's called IMAGE for short.
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IMAGE was launched in 2000 by NASA in order to study the planet's magnetic field and did
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just that quite well for five years before NASA completely lost it.
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They had no idea where it went, and though they tried their best, they couldn't reestablish
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contact with this IMAGE satellite that they shot out.
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Then, in January 2018, an amateur astronomer named Scott Tilley was out looking at the
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sky searching for other satellites when he... What should he find but the transmission
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from IMAGE, the satellite that had been missing for 13 years?
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Okay.
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Now I assume it had gained sentience by this point, and it became like it became that dude's
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friend, and they started talking back and forth, and it was like, I'm really lonely
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up here, man.
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This is a good movie.
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I used to talk to people.
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That's Pixar's next movie.
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No, it's actually an episode of Cowboy Bebop, thank you very much.
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So Scott reached out to NASA, and they got on the case, and they deduced that back in
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2005, quote, an event tripped its solid state power controller, which powers the transponder
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it uses to communicate with ground control.
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Filled with the sense of hope that maybe they could salvage a win from the jaws of defeat,
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NASA scientists-
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And, of course, find Major Tom's body.
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Sure.
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NASA scientists started trying to reconnect with IMAGE to see if they could collect data
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that it would have been collecting.
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Unfortunately, though they were able to get little pings back and forth, they weren't
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able to get it to actually respond to commands appropriately because the fuse was blown.
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That solid state power controller is what powers so much of the functionality of the
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spacecraft.
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It had been 13 years.
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They'd grown apart.
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It's tough.
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It's tough to reconnect after that length of time.
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It's like a college buddy, but you haven't seen him forever.
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It's tough.
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So unfortunately, it ended up not working, and at the end of August 2018, around the
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time that Kerry and Eddie Page are having this conversation, they're barely receiving
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a signal at all from this IMAGE satellite, and they announce that it's probably lost
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once again.
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Great.
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So we have a situation here where there's an actual satellite that was lost for 13 years
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that some guy was able to find, and then they reestablished slight contact with, but then
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went away.
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It's possible that that's the story that they're basing a lot of this on.
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We lost contact with this satellite, not mentioning that we had lost contact with it for 12 to
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13 years before that.
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The reason that it turned back on is actually super interesting, and that is that it had
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a programming in it that it was going to go through a five-year eclipse, so it was just
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going to automatically shut off while it was inside that eclipse.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So they had no idea how to predict whether or not it would turn back on or off because
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they had lost contact with it, but when it came out of that eclipse, it turned out it
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did turn itself back on.
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So that's probably why Scott Tilley was able to rediscover it, and nobody else was looking
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for it.
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That is so fucking fun.
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It's amazing.
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That is so fun.
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It's an amazing story.
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I love that.
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That makes me feel so good.
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It's another great mini documentary, like a 30 for 30, about this guy accidentally rediscovering
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a satellite that's been lost for over a decade.
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Also, there needs to be, I need far more explanation before I'm willing to accept that this guy
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just emailed NASA and was like, hey, you guys been looking for a satellite?
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I found it off the back of my truck.
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From what I understand is he started to get sort of the transmissions or he was receiving
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things from the satellite that he didn't quite understand, and so he reached out to people
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who he thought could help decode the transmissions that he was getting.
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And by that point, the people who were working on it initially had already moved on to much
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other things.
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Right, right, right.
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It's 13 years ago.
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It's crazy.
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It's a great story.
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That is a great story.
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It really is an amazing human interest story.
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That's the sleepless in Seattle of satellites.
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Also Jordan.
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Sleepless in satellite Seattle.
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Jordan.
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Nope.
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Here's the untold story.
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It turns out that losing contacts with satellites is incredibly common.
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What?
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As is- Are you saying that space is complicated and weird and could happen at all kinds of
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different things?
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This is discussed in the Slate article.
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You can look up, quote, it's surprisingly easy to lose a satellite worth millions.
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That is a title.
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Yeah.
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That is a fucking title.
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If you really look into it, every year there are stories about a bunch of satellites that
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just get lost or we lose contact with, and not just we, other countries too.
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Like I said, earlier in the year, India had that satellite, the second of two within a
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year and a half that they had lost.
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Russia lost contact with a couple of satellites earlier this year.
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Suez satellites.
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It just happens.
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It's part of the difficulty of space.
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Yeah.
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I'm assuming that they don't want to... Nobody wants NASA to come out and announce every
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satellite that they've lost because then you're going to be like, well, they fucking lose
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satellites all the time.
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But those articles will be in space or the Smithsonian or any of these publications.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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It'll be somewhere.
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It'll be there.
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You can find it and you can find explanations for what happened.
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I want to go into that.
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The ultimate answer.
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If you're interviewing the head of NASA and it's like, how did you guys lose this million
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dollar satellite?
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They're like, dude, space is fucking hard.
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Are you shitting me?
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You try and send up a goddamn satellite, assholes.
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That's why a space program is super expensive because so much of the sunk costs of that
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like- Exactly.
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You just know, oh, sometimes this is going to go great.
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Yeah.
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Dude.
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The math we do is on a level that you could never, ever, ever comprehend.
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And the math we need to do is on a level higher than we can comprehend and we can comprehend
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some fucking math, dude.
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Yeah.
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There's ultimate variables that are completely uncomfortable.
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Exactly.
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So anyway, that is what happened with satellites this year.
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I can find no evidence of the stuff that they're talking about, but that doesn't matter.
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Oh, that's right.
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I forgot.
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Every time we do one of these episodes, I inevitably wind up forgetting what we were
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talking about.
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Yeah.
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Turns out there's something is rotten in space Denmark.
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There you go.
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As we find out in this next clip.
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We did have the help of the Pleiadians who helped give us the code to take the satellites
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back, the ones we were able to take control of.
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And that is something that coincides with the Eddie Page information as well as Simon
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Park's information.
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So we have three confirming that information at this time.
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Mark does not see a return of Nibiru.
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He does not see an upcoming invasion of Draco in the near future, contrary to the predictions
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of Eddie Page.
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Suck it, Eddie Page, you fucking piece of shit.
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Mark Richards confirms that you're a fucking asshole, you lying piece of shit.
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Uh oh.
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You racist motherfucker.
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I'm not going to say racist because I'm kind of racist, too.
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Uh oh.
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But fuck off, Eddie Page.
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Uh oh.
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Ouch.
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Uh oh.
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Cat fight.
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Liar fight.
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Again, all is not well in Denmark.
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I'm going to figure out that quote one of these days, but it turns out trouble in paradise.
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Eddie Page.
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Turns out Denmark is paradise.
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Mark Richards.
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Uh huh.
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Do not see eye to eye.
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Not surprising.
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I think Mark Richards might be a little threatened.
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Yeah, right.
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Eddie Page is rising to prominence.
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No, there's no Draco invasion that's going to be coming.
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Nah, this fucking guy.
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All that stuff he's saying now.
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I don't know.
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I don't know about that.
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Can't trust the goddamn word out of this racist mouth.
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But you know what?
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I think that maybe-
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Now look, I say the N word all the time.
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But this guy.
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You're acting-
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Where did that voice come from?
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You're acting like he's from Chicago.
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What voice is that?
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You're acting like he's from the suburbs.
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Where does that voice come from?
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South suburbs of Chicago.
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Look, Mark Richards is probably a little bit worried about his place at the throne of Project
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Camelot whistleblowers.
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But that's not the only thing he has to worry about.
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What's that?
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He's got trouble on all sides.
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He does say we're in a very bad position at this time for a number of reasons.
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Surprising.
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He's been messed with a great deal and that his, I don't know if it's his daughter or
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his granddaughter.
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They got cut in half.
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And I was wondering if you could confirm which person.
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But someone in his family was recently diagnosed with a brain tumor.
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So his family's having a very hard time right now.
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I mean, that sucks.
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But don't try and pretend that someone's messing with him.
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She's trying to present it as like someone gave this person a brain tumor.
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That's awful.
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That's, I mean, I assume that Mark himself presented that as the angle there, right?
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Maybe.
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Like that seems like his-
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I'd be willing to bet that he just brought it up and Carrie editorialized.
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In the sense-
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You think he could have just been like, hey, you know what, let's cut out this whole bullshit
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for just a second.
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And I want to make a real human connection with you.
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My family is experiencing this.
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Like my daughter has a brain tumor.
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You can even take a step back from this.
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Yeah.
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She mentions that she went to the prison with Joanne, so it's possible that Joanne gave
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her that information.
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Oh no.
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We don't even know where the information necessarily comes from, but we do know that Carrie has
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called, or she has said that her Bell's Palsy was a scalar attack.
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Right, right, right, right.
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So we know that that's something that's within her worldview, so it's possible that she just
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got this information and she's created that narrative.
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It's not necessary that Mark is saying, they're trying to attack me by giving my daughter
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or granddaughter a brain tumor.
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This is the exact first moment that I have ever thought that Mark Richards has an actual
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family.
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Yeah.
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I didn't realize that either.
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Right?
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I didn't realize that he had reproduced.
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Yeah.
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That seems odd.
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But I mean, I guess he was out of prison.
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He was like 20 something when he went to prison.
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Could have happened.
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Yeah.
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He could have had a kid pretty easily.
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Isn't that weird?
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Could have had also conjugal visits.
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He could have had a kid while he was in prison.
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I don't know.
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Are those even real?
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Conjugal visits?
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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Actually when I was looking up the rules for visitation and stuff like that, there's like-
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Fuck all you want!
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No, no, no, no.
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Oh no, that wasn't on there?
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No, but for people who are married and for people who have families, it's even possible
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for you to have a family come for 48 hours and stay with you to have a holiday.
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For various holidays, you can have...
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I don't know if that's true for all prisons, but it's definitely true for Mark's prison
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that they do have a program where if you get approval and everything, people can come and
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stay with you, obviously not in your cell, in a separate place for 48 hours for you to
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celebrate a holiday with them.
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That's really good.
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So much wrong, so much wrong.
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But I like that.
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I don't know.
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A guy got cut in half that you can celebrate Christmas.
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I don't know.
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When you start talking about the prison system, my first thought is abolish it and then my
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next thought is, I have got nothing.
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I don't know.
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How do you figure it out?
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Don't ask me.
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I don't know.
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My first thought is, let's fucking stop this.
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Yeah.
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And then every thought after that is confusion.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm like...
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Well, if we don't do that, then what do we do?
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And if we do that, then what else do we do?
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If A then B games get off track so fast in terms of prison.
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There's no solve.
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What is the definition of humane treatment?
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Exactly.
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Isn't that right?
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Because it's so different for every different person.
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What is valuable and what means something to you might not be the same as it means to
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me.
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Right.
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So if we create a prison system where you're trying to create a humane environment for
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everybody, what would be considered humane to you wouldn't probably be the same as to
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me.
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We have various predilections and quirks that are things that are super important to you.
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Like for me, I think it would be awful to be in prison and not be able to take a bath.
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Like if I was in prison for 30 years or something like that, if I had to be alone for 30 years
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just with books and something like that, I wouldn't be happy about it.
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I obviously would probably be there if I did something to deserve it.
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Yeah.
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But I think it would be inhumane if you made me shower that whole time.
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I love a bath.
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You love a bath.
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Incredibly difficult.
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But for you, you probably wouldn't need a bath.
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That wouldn't even pop up in your mind.
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I mean, I would think about a bath from time to time, but it wouldn't be a need.
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It wouldn't be something that was like, fuck.
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And then you have to ask yourself the question of like, to what extent is prison isolation
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versus punishment, you know, like you have, uh, exactly.
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We've talked about Anders Breivik.
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Like how is it that Anders Breivik has an infinitely better living situation than a
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guy who was caught his third time for weed possession?
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You know, I have bad news also about Anders Breivik.
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Uh, oh, has he not been murdered?
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No.
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300 times.
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Has anybody cut him in half?
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Am I looking more into Glenn Beck?
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No.
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Um, in the aftermath of the attack that Anders Breivik carried out, I don't want to hear
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this information.
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He referred to the victims of his attack at that camp as being like Hitler youth because
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it was a political youth camp.
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It was very, very disgraceful.
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So hey, there's an intersection with Alex.
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All right.
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All right.
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Anyway, let's get back on track.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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So, um, Mark appears to be unimpressed with, uh, with Eddie Page.
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Eddie Page is a piece of shit.
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Not a piece of shit, but he's like this whole warning about the draconian invasion.
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That's nonsense.
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Look, I don't judge him for his racism.
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I'm on that tip too, but come on.
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He can't be pulling this shit.
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So he's unimpressed with that.
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In this next clip, Carrie brings up another one of her, uh, newer sources, I guess, and
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we'll see what Mark thinks about him.
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I did talk to Mark briefly about the scientific paper that Paul Price wrote on warp drive.
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By the way, that's the janitor who invented a warp drive.
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Gotcha.
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However, he's going to have to mail me more information because we didn't have time to
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go into it in detail.
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Why can't he smart mail you more?
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Mark did respond saying, um, that it did not contain enough specific equations and the
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formula was too general.
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He did said, say he would send me a better analysis via mail.
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Oh shit.
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Ouch.
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Mark Richards.
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Shots fired.
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Mark Richards coming out hot.
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Shots fired on this janitor who's created a warp drive.
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Mark Richards is like, this is too general.
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There's not enough equations here.
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By the way, that's not a good criticism, but cool.
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I mean, it's probably a, it's a valid enough criticism in the world we're living in.
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Totally.
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That you didn't think this through is a valid criticism to everything that any of them have
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ever said.
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But I like this trend that we're seeing that is Kerry's met some new weirdos and Mark is
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not into it.
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No, no, no, no.
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I enjoy it.
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But he also appears to be, I mean, we can only hear this from Kerry's retelling of it.
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Real liars of Vacabel prison.
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That's our new Bravo show.
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Oh God, that'd be great.
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Oh, that would be fun.
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He seems to be coming to it not from a place of like, fuck these guys, but just a calm,
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confident dismissal of them.
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Yeah.
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It's like a, uh, just, it's alpha behavior in, in the like a pickup artist world.
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Kerry.
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Kerry.
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It is.
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Kerry.
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Excuse me.
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I made you suck it to all your, Oh, Oh, you're going to get a lot of stepdads.
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You're going to get a little stop dads.
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They ain't your real dad, baby.
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I could tell you about the warp drive.
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This guy didn't, this Paul didn't invent that shit.
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He's a fucking janitor.
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Not enough equations.
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Danny Page thinks that the Draco's are going to invade.
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Fuck that noise.
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He's going to have more information about why that's bullshit here in a little bit before
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then.
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Okay.
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Kerry's got to editorialize about her trip to the prison.
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Okay, here we go.
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Where she has met, uh, she's got feelings.
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She met, uh, his roommate or I guess cellmate and I like the way you said that roommate,
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she met his dorm partner, her, uh, her analysis of this is like so confounding.
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Okay.
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Um, he, he does have a cellmate at this time who is a relatively young man who has a scientific
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background apparently.
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And he is, uh, also very tall cause I saw him in person, which I have found very interesting.
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Why is that interesting?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, are you just, are you just attracted to tall dudes?
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Is that what's going on here?
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I'm not sure.
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I don't want to reduce her to somebody with a physical assertions, but at the same time
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being tall is not interesting unless you think he's an alien because he's tall.
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Nope.
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But here's the thing that I think she was trying to express, but did so super poorly.
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She introduces the idea that he has a scientific background, then says he's very tall.
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And then she says, I found that very interesting that based on English pronoun references,
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referring to the fact that he's tall, not the fact that the other thing that you mentioned
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earlier, that he has a scientific background or you could combine the two and those things
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I find very interesting.
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Oh, okay.
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So he has a science background and he's tall.
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Humans don't do that.
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No, no, no.
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In prison, his roommate happens to have a scientific background.
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I find that very interesting.
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Also, he's tall.
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That would be one way of expressing or being like, he has a roommate in prison who has
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a scientific background.
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He's tall.
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Such a person being his bunkmate is interesting to me.
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He has a tall roommate who has a scientific background and I find that interesting.
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There's a hundred ways to express this.
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You chose the one wrong way that makes it sound like the only thing.
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I want to fuck a tall guy.
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Or I'm interested.
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I didn't think he liked tall guys or something like that.
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I don't...
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Mark Richards has expressed a preference to me in the past.
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No tall guys in his room and I find this very interesting.
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He has the sexual version of a Napoleon complex.
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He has a Napoleon fetish.
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He only goes for the squat.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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The way she's expressing it is very, very confusing.
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It's very wrong.
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However she's doing it, unless she's doing it the way that she's saying she's doing it,
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it's wrong.
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She doesn't ever clarify at all.
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She just mentions that the roommate is going to have to look at these warp drive papers
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also.
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All right.
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All right.
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You got to do it.
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In this next clip, we get one of those rare glimpses.
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He's going to have to tape them up to a higher level though on the wall.
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That's why it's interesting that he's tall.
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Super tall.
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Yeah.
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Mark can't even reach the level that he needs to put those at eye level.
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Here's what we're not talking about.
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He's eight foot four.
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Now that I would find very interesting.
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He's one of the giants of the Old Testament.
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Mark Richards has a roommate who has a scientific background and he is also the tallest human
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being ever recorded, which I find very interesting.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Need to be more specific.
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So this next clip, Jordan, is one of those rare instances in these... A couple of clips
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we've had have been one of the very rare instances of Kerry bringing up something about her space
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bullshit that I can actually look into and tell you, like, here's what she's talking
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about.
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For sure.
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X, Y, and Z.
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Right.
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Here is one of the other branch of the rare bullshit in these Mark Richards interviews
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that she does where something is said that is clearly code that relates to our real world
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in a way that, like, they're just talking about the real world but using aliens.
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Mike down for this.
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See if you can cut through the code.
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I think you can, but I just don't want you to scream.
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Mark also talked about the Grays, how they sort of report to the highest bidder and that
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there is a selling out, many of the journalists out there right now are alien-human hybrids
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and have been influenced by the Grays and so they are obeying the deep state and the
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dark side and because they are basically kind of soulless and or have a lack of emotional
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feelings so they don't connect with humanity.
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Boy, you are, you're just a slight push away from the Yudin press.
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You're real close to this, I mean, what are we doing here?
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What are we doing here?
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All the press are gray aliens?
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That's what we're doing?
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Oh, man.
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We don't get a lot of news in here but I'll tell you right now, I love it when Saudi Arabia
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murders a journalist.
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I would love to hear his take on that.
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Good stuff.
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Unfortunately, she went before that.
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We don't get all like a reporting from before that, so we don't have...
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From when?
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I think she went like five days ago.
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I think...
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Yeah, no, he's been dead for over a week.
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Yeah, I know but the reports were initially that he was missing.
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No, okay, no, okay.
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I suppose that the reports were initially that he was missing.
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Oh, also, Kerry doesn't care about the real world.
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But if you recall, if you recall on our first episode, the day that he went missing, I was
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like, the Saudi Arabians murdered this guy.
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It's not a hard conclusion to jump to because they're all about murdering people that they
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don't like.
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Kerry doesn't care about the real world.
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Fair.
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Okay, so just all journalists are doing...
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Grey aliens, probably soulless.
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They've been...
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Why?
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Why?
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I mean, that's just an old...
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What is he doing though?
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That's an old trope.
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Yeah, but it's not like he has an intimate relationship with the breaking news services
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anymore.
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Do you think he has a close relationship with neo-Nazis in prison?
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Oh, that's a good point.
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Yeah.
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You have brought up a very good point, Dan, one that I cannot ignore and...
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Do you think that neo-Nazis in prison don't think that the Jews run the media?
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They love the free press.
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Dan, if there's one thing I know about neo-Nazis, the free press, top of the list.
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I've been very like...
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So long as it's white and no other voices are allowed to be around.
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Like, the last times that we've talked about Mark Richards, I've been very resistant to
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talk about the idea that possibly he's fallen in with neo-Nazi gangs and stuff like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But then when I was looking into it, his prison, and found that, like, guy dissected organs
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missing story, I was like, yeah, there's fucking murder gangs in that prison.
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Oh, yeah, for sure.
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There's a very decent chance if he's been there for 30 years or in that prison and other
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institutions, he has become acclimated and institutionalized in a way that he probably
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does run with a gang.
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Like, we like to imagine this scenario where it's like, he's just some sort of weird, dumb,
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crazy monk that lives in prison, and Kerry comes and visits him, and he says stupid shit.
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I never viewed him as a monk, but...
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I meant that on a very generous way, like, he just sits around and comes up with his
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narrative bullshit.
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Ridiculous, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He prepares that for whenever Kerry or someone else comes and he can tell them about it.
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And the reality is, on a day-to-day, he probably is incorporated with some fucking bad dudes.
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Yeah, we've all seen CNN.
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So when we hear Kerry coming in and talking to him about the media, and he's expressing,
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it's all gray aliens, they've all sold out, they don't even have souls, they've lost touch
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with humanity, it's really tough to hear that and not think about other historical parallels.
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It's like, if you, and I'm not going to say that I know every journalist who's a gray
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alien, but if you gave me like a roster in picture format of, let's call it journalists
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from one company, right, and have all their pictures in kind of a situation, I would be
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able to draw bullseyes over certain members of those organizations.
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Or like that one guy in the house who put Stars of David on all their pictures, yeah.
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There might be like a single unifying thing that they might have, and it's because Jews
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are in the media, but that's only because the Jews are gray aliens, not all Jews are
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gray aliens, but all Jews are bad.
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Wait, wait, did I say the quiet part loud?
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I mean, that's like, to me, when I hear that clip, that is so clearly just the David Icke
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reptilian equals lizard, equals Jews, kind of thing.
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Like the gray aliens that he's talking about, maybe not every single time he brings up gray
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aliens, that in that clip is very clearly, deeply entrenched with antisemitism.
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Yeah.
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Now, I don't know if that's Mark's whole bag, but that's what he's saying.
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Anyway, in this next clip, we find out why he does not believe Eddie Page's narrative
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that there's a Draco invasion coming.
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Yeah.
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He said the war on and off planet Earth is intensifying.
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Our allies recently destroyed a moon of Draco, and that several races right now are given
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the Draco a very hard time in the Orion sector of the galaxies.
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If that were true, that would be so fucking visible.
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So Betelgeuse is one of the biggest stars in the Orion belt, in the galaxy of Orion.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it turns out that if that did go supernova and blow up, it really wouldn't affect us
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that much.
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No.
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It's far away enough that it wouldn't affect us, because I was thinking like, okay, they
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blow up this moon, we would fucking feel the effects.
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Oh, good God, of course not.
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That's not necessarily the case, especially in the Orion constellation.
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You never know.
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You just-
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Dan, how many light years away is it?
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A bunch.
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Yeah, we wouldn't even be able to see it.
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If they were giving them a hard time as we speak, we would not know for another 15 to
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20 years, probably, no, like way longer than that.
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You and I would be dead.
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So all of this implies that they have faster than like communication, first off.
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Oh, definitely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How?
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How, Dan?
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How?
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How, Dan?
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Quantum entanglement?
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That's taken as red.
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Yeah, you're right.
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We're supposed to assume that.
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The warp drives and all of that stuff.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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But again, no, we would have no concept of this until after you and I were long dead.
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Yeah, so Orion is 243 to 1,360 light years away.
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Then it is an immediate issue for us that will... Look, they're giving them a lot of
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trouble right now, and we're going to experience the after effects of that in a thousand years
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or so.
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I'm going to have to take this one on the chin.
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You're totally right.
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You're totally right.
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What I didn't consider about space is the light year factor.
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We would observe it.
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12 parsecs is the idea.
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We would absolutely observe it, but you're right, it would take that long for it to become
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visible to us.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Fine.
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They maybe blew up that moon.
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You've got to take this one on the chin.
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Of all the things that I decided to take a stand on, this is one where I'm going to eat
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crow.
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I'm going to eat crow on this.
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We cannot confirm nor deny that the rappers have blown up one of the Draco moons in Orion.
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We'll know in a couple hundred years.
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What concerns me is that he knows.
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Empirical evidence.
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Wow.
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Because he can remote view everything.
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He can go.
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Even then, how do you remote view?
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Doesn't involve light.
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Astral travel.
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Who cares?
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All right.
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Who cares?
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I'm going to need more.
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I'm going to need more, uh, uh, observational facts on it.
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More empirical evidence.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to need a little bit more on that one.
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Bad news.
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Oh.
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So in this next clip, uh, again, uh, we now, we, we have that last clip where, all right,
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fine.
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I'll give it to you.
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So in this next clip, we get back to exactly the same thing of like the before he was talking
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about journalists being gray aliens, and we can see like, Oh, Oh, kind of hear what you're
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talking about this next clip.
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There's another weird thing where he's talking about the real world through aliens.
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He said, there's an interesting, uh, bit of information about, uh, the aliens who have
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been more or less given free reign in South America and Africa looking now to expand their
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territories to other parts and especially North America, as they have eaten so many
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humans in those areas that they now want to, uh, stop it, expand their hunting grounds
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as they, as it's called.
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All right.
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All right.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Hide it a little bit better than that.
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Yeah.
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Hide it a little bit better than that.
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Yeah.
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It's hard not to hear the pick specific regions of, all right.
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It's hard not to hear the specific right wing talking points about like immigrant invasions
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and stuff like that.
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When you hear these aliens have been allowed to hunt freely and kill and eat all humans
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down there.
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And now they want in on white territory.
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It's really hard not to hear the exact same narratives that you hear out of Alex, Tommy
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Robinson out of all of the reactionary, right?
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It's right there.
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Just give me, just give me, let's say two examples, one from South Africa and one from
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South America where the right wing has very public talking points about how white people
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are under siege.
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Just give me two examples.
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I don't even need a lot, Dan.
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I'm sure there's no way you could find any examples of a direct one to one comparison
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between right wing talking points and these aliens that he is describing here, Dan.
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This is a complete coincidence.
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If it's a coincidence, it's crazy.
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It's crazy.
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Coincidence, right?
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Like if it's a coincidence that he believes all of the alien narratives that he's putting
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forth and apropos of nothing, it's just like, Oh, this seems to match up a whole bunch with
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a lot of these right wing talking just happens to, that would be crazy.
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It would be crazy.
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What's less crazy is the idea that he is kind of a pretty right wing dude who's in prison.
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So a little bit crazy and seems to express himself through a little bit of flowery narrative
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language and has brought aliens in to explain things away.
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So he doesn't have to say the N word or any, any other slurs, man.
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It's so much.
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Why haven't the rest of white people figured out that you don't even need to say the N
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word, just call them rap toys or whatever that is.
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Reptoids.
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Raptors are good ones, according to Mark.
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So Jordan, I don't know how I feel about all that.
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I feel conflicted.
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Do you?
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Not much.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Just racist.
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Nope.
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Yep.
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There's really no conflict.
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I was trying to present it as I'm conflicted.
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No, absolutely not.
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No, no, no.
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He's just a big old racist that says Raptor instead of whatever.
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I'm not conflicted about that.
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Nope.
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I'm slightly conflicted about how to integrate that into the bigger picture of a lot of stuff.
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Like it does become, it becomes difficult to, to look at the bigger picture of Mark
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Richards' quote unquote philosophy and worldview with like, we keep seeing little glimpses
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of this stuff.
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Right.
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And it's not, it's not super overt, but if you know the tropes, they're there.
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And it does, it does really raise the question of like, how much of this is intentional on
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his part?
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How much does he know he's playing into these tropes?
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So that's the part that I'm conflicted about.
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This is a, this is a huge question that I cannot believe I have never asked you before.
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I have Mark Richards went to jail is a big news story in 84.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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There has to have been an interview with his dad, the Dutchman.
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There has to have been some sort of, can you give me a comment?
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Right.
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He went to the trial or maybe he didn't, maybe, I don't know, maybe the Dutchman was on planet,
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but there has to be, there has to be some sort of surface level comment that the Dutchman
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has made, there's a decent chance he was already dead by then.
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Like his real dad.
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Oh yeah.
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That's true.
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There's a chance.
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I mean, who knows?
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There also is a chance that he was an absentee dad and he didn't know him.
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We don't know.
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I don't know enough about Mark Richards' actual real life to know that like, it's possible
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that he was abandoned by his dad.
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That's one possibility.
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I mean, just looking at his story and working backwards, chances are a strong father figure
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wasn't necessarily, or a positive father figure wasn't necessarily part of the whole equation.
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Or it's even possible that his dad was on the up and up and what have you.
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And after he very clearly committed this murder, every news organization that wanted a comment,
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he'd get stiff on it.
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Right.
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He'd be like, hey, fuck off.
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You know, my son just murdered a guy.
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Right.
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I mean, cause if at that point it had been years of like a deteriorating relationship
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between the two and things not going well, and then there's a murder, you don't want
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to play out in the news.
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I tried to help him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You want to live your life.
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Especially not if you are part of the secret space program.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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But there's a, there's a...
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So that's two forms of corroborating evidence according to Kerry Cassidy.
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There's a real world version of his dad as a person who would not appear in any texts.
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For sure.
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For sure.
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For a gentleman who also wouldn't appear in any texts.
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So both...
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But there's a real world version that he does.
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Both, both, no matter what the evidence is, it could prove either.
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So who gets a shit?
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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So in this next clip, Jordan, he hates Eddie Page, not hates, but he's not into Eddie Page.
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But it turns out that there's a reason that he doesn't like Eddie Page.
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It's not just that Eddie Page is saying there's going to be a Draco invasion and Mark doesn't
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agree with that.
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It turns out empirical evidence is what you seek?
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Regarding Eddie Page, he made a special point after I left to contact me to let me know
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that he had, either he had our, our read, he's a very good remote viewer.
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Either he took a look at Eddie Page or he got information about him.
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He says that he is heavily programmed.
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He also said that if he spends 10 minutes with him, he could tell if he was truly Pleiadian.
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Mark was married to a Pleiadian.
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A lot of people don't know that, but it is in the history of the interviews I've done
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with Mark in the past.
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So you can go back and look that up.
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That is true.
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I did go back and look that up because I was like, wait, I thought he was married to that
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raptor princess.
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I thought that was why we decided that turns out he was just banging around with that raptor
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princess.
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He's banging around with the raptor princess.
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He was married to a Pleiadian.
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So that, that checks out.
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No, no, no.
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I actually, I think I might remember that one for some reason.
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Yeah, that checks out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that.
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You got two guys confirming your story here.
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Yeah.
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He did say he was married to a Pleiadian, which Joanne was like, Oh my God, this is
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salacious.
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I thought I was his first one.
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You weren't Joanne.
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What else has he been lying to you about?
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I'm going to go with everything.
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He's been truthful about everything except for the fact that there were real raptors
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at a dinosaurs walk the earth.
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Oh, that's right.
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He was lying about that.
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And at Jurassic park, Jurassic world.
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Excuse me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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How dare you say Jurassic park?
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Come on.
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No, no, no.
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Those raptors were fake.
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In Jurassic world, they were real.
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And yet Steven Spielberg captured their essence perhaps better than the real ones could.
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It's possibly true.
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Sometimes art is a better facsimile of life than life itself.
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Indeed.
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So I don't know, man.
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Eddie Page got remote viewed by, uh, Mark Richards and he found out all this stuff.
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I love the idea though, that he's saying like, put me in a room with him.
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I'll tell you if he's bleeding or not, because you bring any page to that prison.
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Nope.
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I really want that to happen.
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Me too.
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Oh, that's the logical escalation of it has to, I mean, for things to move forward, Carrie
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has to insist, all right, Eddie, I have some questions about your story, right?
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The only way that you're going to be a consistent piece of my show in the future is if you agree
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to come with me to see Mark and Mark gives you the stamp of approval, right?
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That has to be the next stage.
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Now, as part of our consulting firm, uh, you can run, no, you don't even have to run at
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this point.
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You just got to brainstorm.
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You got to come up with a reason why you can't, that's it turns out escalate the feud, escalate
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the feud.
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Great idea.
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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Are you trusting?
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We already know Mark Richards.
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Bullshit.
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Bullshit.
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You're wrong.
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Okay.
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We already talked about this.
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Yeah.
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What he has to do is he has to go heal.
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You're right.
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He has to become the devil.
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He has to become like, yes, absolutely.
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Mark is right.
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I am not who I pretend to be.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And then still let himself be interviewed because he still has to go.
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Yeah.
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That's the, yeah.
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Then you get the great stuff.
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He turns heel and is just like, I'll talk to you, but like I have some demonic information
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for you.
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It all still works.
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Right.
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It all still works.
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There's no reason to change anything.
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No, you're right.
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Our consultancy firm from where I was thinking was still based in the real world.
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I forgot that we were hoping for, we were going back into WWE territory.
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You were still hoping for also a situation where Mark and Eddie would be on the same
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page.
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They gotta be.
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All right.
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There's no way.
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All right.
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There's no way for that.
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Dan.
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They're both too ego driven that each want to be alphas of the story.
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Yeah.
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They can't coexist with each other.
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They have to be on opposite sides, counterbalancing each other.
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Eddie is the sort of evil dark brother.
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Mark Richards disagrees with him.
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He is for every Christ.
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There is an antichrist.
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He is the noble one who is doing 30 something years in prison and we'll be there for the
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rest of his life.
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For a crime he did not commit.
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For the crime he didn't commit because he is so good.
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Yeah.
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That sort of thing.
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Eddie Page hasn't committed any crimes, but he is fucking bad.
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And that's why he's free.
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Actually, he has committed so many crimes.
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Sure.
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He is free.
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Probably war crimes.
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They're protecting him.
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Anyway, I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Carrie talking about how elites
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have made a deal with the devil.
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They always do that.
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I'm like, yeah, that sounds like Alex, but very superficial.
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That's normal.
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Not important.
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I mean, in a certain sense they did and they always do and they always will.
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She's talking about the literal devil.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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So this next clip, Jordan, we run into a sort of issue where Carrie at the beginning of
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the episode has said that Mark is still a captain in the Navy and secret space program.
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Should have gotten a promotion by now.
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Oh, undoubtedly.
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Should be a corporal.
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Yeah.
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At least.
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Sergeant at arms.
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Or should be the chairman of the joint chiefs.
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It's a difficult question to answer why he would still be an active member of the service.
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Yeah.
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And be in prison and all this stuff.
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But thankfully Carrie- Oh, did she clear that up for us?
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Good.
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That will soothe that burn in this next clip.
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Mark is in a rather delicate position because even though he is trusted by a certain group
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of the secret space program, he is very close to the raptors and this keeps him in sort
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of this gray area of suspicion simply because of his relationship and in a certain sense
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control of the raptors, which makes him a real force to be reckoned with.
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Does it?
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He controls the raptors.
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Wait, does it?
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Wait, what?
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Hold on.
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Huh?
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He controls the raptors.
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Wait, what?
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No, I don't understand how that makes sense at all.
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He controls the raptors.
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We didn't know that before.
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This is a huge deal.
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What do you mean he controls the raptors?
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She buried the lead.
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He controls the fucking raptors.
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Okay.
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Let's just play this out.
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Please.
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Let's just play this out.
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Please.
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Please.
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Please.
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I would like you also to start from the bottom.
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I'm really trying here.
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Because that's a new piece of information.
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So raptors, we're still saying that the raptors are good, even though by association with
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Mark Richards, that suggests that they are in fact bad and that the reptoids are good.
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If we take our context out of it knowing what we know and just look at what they're presenting,
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Mark and the raptors are good.
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So let's operate on that for now.
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So why does Mark Richards have control over the raptors?
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Is it because he fucked a princess one time?
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I think so.
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I think that's a part of it.
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That's definitely a part of it.
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He's like a James Bond of aliens.
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Or Captain Kirk, I guess.
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I'll accept that.
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It's Captain Kirk.
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He's Captain Kirk.
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From the original series where he's fucking around with everybody.
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You fuck an alien, you gain control of an entire species.
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Basically, yeah.
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That's standard operating procedure.
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Or you smooth out allegiances, alliances.
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Right, right, right, right.
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With sex play.
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You sport fuck some aliens and all of a sudden you guys were on the same team.
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So now he exists in a strange in-between stage where some parts of the secret space program
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accept that this man is trustworthy.
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We can believe in him.
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But other parts of the secret space program.
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Maybe the newer guard.
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Right.
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Right, right.
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Because they're unfamiliar with the Dutchman.
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From the last 30 years, he's been in prison.
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Maybe they've been indoctrinated by the demonic forces within the secret space program.
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What about the 30 year old guys in the secret space program?
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They don't even know who Mark Richards is.
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And then you're going to tell me that Mark Richards controls the raptors?
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We can't even be sure.
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Look, they'll eat us for fucking chocolate.
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We can't be sure they're the good guys.
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So you're telling me that even though Mark Richards, who now controls the raptors.
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We now know he does control the raptors, which means every single time a raptor eats a human
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being for a bar of chocolate.
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That's what the consent of Mark Richard or its demonstration of failure of leadership.
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One of the two.
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Yeah, there's no there's no win on this one for Mark Richards.
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No, but it's not necessarily that he ordered the hit.
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It could be that he didn't order that.
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It doesn't mean that he ordered that.
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No, no, no, no.
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It just means that he's he's got a very lax view of, you know, it's like it's like he's
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Erik Prince.
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He's the Erik Prince of the raptors.
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Sure, you're rape and pillage and commit war crimes.
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But as long as you're doing what I need you to do, baby, we're going to be fine.
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It's interesting because now you have sort of a mercenary space situation, which is tough.
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I'm going to go with Mark Richards has abandoned the secret space program and has instead gone
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into private crap, private contracting work, much like using his using his relationship
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with the raptors in order to yeah.
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And that's the only thing that's keeping him from being cut in half and fucking bit back
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of a prison.
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The hypothetical threat of raptor aliens.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would say that if I were in prison and I ran into him, I'd be like, I'm going to give
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him a wide berth, wide berth.
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I'm going to be like, oh, you talk to aliens.
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Have fun.
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Have fun, buddy.
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You are an interesting cat.
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And I would like a transfer to wherever is not.
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You are.
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I would be in my cell.
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Please don't come near me.
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Yeah, man.
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It's weird.
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It's it's super weird.
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It's very it's very difficult to to suss out what this means in terms of like universal
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politics that now Mark Richards controls the raptors.
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And that's why does he just control the raptors here on Earth or does he control all of them?
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But that's why the secret space program has like a like a tentative restraint with him.
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They respect him, but also they're worried because this other alien race, he he's on
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board with them to an extent that like he's he's so awesome that he controls all of them,
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much like I would assume like it's.
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I don't know, the relationship he has with them is is similar to.
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I was trying to come up with a Star Wars parallel now, I think I can come up with is like Han
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Solo is the only one who can talk to Chewie, you know, like that.
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That's not true.
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It's not.
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No.
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Eventually, Luke can talk to Chewie.
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I don't like those movies that much.
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How dare you?
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How dare you?
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Leah can talk to Chewie.
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Everybody can talk to everybody.
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Not everybody can talk to Chewie.
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But even Lando can talk to Chewie.
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Yeah, everyone can talk to Chewie, except the audience, which is frustrating.
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Yeah, that is that is that is the biggest problem with the Star Wars films.
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Correct, Dan.
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I apologize.
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It was the context never made it clear what Chewie was trying to say.
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I want subtitles.
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Listen, how about you go to Kashyyyk and learn the language, Dan?
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So Jordan, in this next clip, Carrie has a decent question to ask.
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And that is about the real world.
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Yeah.
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And that is like, hey, do people have a bad avenue for her to go down?
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Do people in the military know who you are?
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The answer is no.
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I asked him if the generals around Trump know who Mark is and if they are read in.
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And he said some are some aren't.
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He said General Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs is in the know.
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And by the way, Simon Parks also referred to this general saying that he was instrumental
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in sort of backing up and and and making Trump's administration possible.
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Some of the generals around Trump really don't know anything about the secret space topic,
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and they don't know who Mark is.
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I said to Mark that that sounded very dangerous.
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And Mark agreed.
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Of course, he agrees, yeah, it would be no matter what she said, she would agree.
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It would be really fascinating if Mark's actually, you know what?
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I'm going to go back to Knowledge Fight consultancy firm.
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OK.
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Say you don't agree.
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Say that it's actually a good thing that they know some of the generals don't know about
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me because that keeps that keeps that keeps my cover under wraps.
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If all the generals know about me, I mean, that's a dangerous thing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Because some of them don't want me exactly.
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They're working for the reptiles.
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Exactly.
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So you only want the guys who are in power to know, like General Dunford, which, by the
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way, and Joseph Dunford, I don't I don't necessarily know if this is a thing that reflects negatively
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on me or reflects negatively on the world we live in.
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Is he still the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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OK.
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I can understand why that is a concerning thought, because how many different chiefs
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of staff have we gone through?
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Like like it's it's reasonable to not be sure if you know anybody in a cabinet level position.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, for sure.
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He's been he's been in as long as we've been talking about people who reference him.
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OK.
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Well, I don't know if he's been in as the Joint Chiefs the entire time that we've been
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doing this podcast.
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But every time that the Joint Chief of Staff has come up.
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Yeah.
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He has been it.
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And I the only reason that has come like is even in my memory is that there was that time
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that Alex had Zach on his fake intelligence.
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Zach.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And he couldn't come up with Dunford.
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See, that's why he couldn't come up with the name.
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That's why that's exactly what I was thinking of where I was like, well, am I even sure
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since Zach can't even come up with that and he's a high level source, he's not.
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Who do we even know?
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Dunford is the greatest prop in that like toolbox, basically.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And Zach couldn't come up with it.
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And thankfully, Kerry has Google.
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So does Mark.
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I don't know if he has Google being you can find Dunford on Bing.
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At this point, the podcast turns, I'd say, messy.
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We have we have some more clips to get.
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Our podcast or the show?
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Her show.
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Her show.
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Project Camelot turns a little bit messy.
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All right.
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At this point, we have things that we disagree with by virtue of science, by virtue of evidence,
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those sorts of things.
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Some of those things, though, we can only know roughly a hundred to a thousand years
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from now.
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Well, one of those things, yes.
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Yes.
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But the rest of it's kind of like, this is bullshit.
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Also, it's kind of funny.
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Right.
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At this point, we kind of take a turn into a situation where now the narratives are just
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going to be this like, I don't even know why you're saying this.
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I know that it's what Mark is telling you, but this makes no sense.
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Regarding Elon Musk, he's been indicted recently, as you may know.
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And apparently, Mark Zuckerberg Facebook has been given the rocket deals.
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That the rocket deals that were part of Elon Musk's stuff.
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That's not great.
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What?
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Is that how that works?
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So Mark Zuckerberg, now that Elon Musk has been indicted by the SEC and Tesla still exists,
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now that Elon Musk has been indicted, Mark Zuckerberg, who has not a rocket company to
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his name- Are you sure?
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Social media network- Hold on, what?
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He now gets the rocket deals that were a part of Elon Musk's stuff.
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All right, Elon, you created a company built on perhaps the sham idea of futuristic technologies-
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But it did involve rockets.
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But it did involve rockets.
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You better believe it.
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And I'll be goddamned if you haven't been doing your hardest, right?
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You shot that car with a mannequin into space.
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You did great.
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Yeah, we all love that.
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We're loving it now.
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That was a great publicity stunt.
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Elon Musk has been indicted with at the most a slap on the wrist, so we can't do this with
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you anymore.
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For something you very clearly did.
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Oh, for the crime that you committed that you should probably do time for.
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You committed fraud.
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Elon, you lost a lot of people, a lot of money very quickly.
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Who aren't named Elon Bosco.
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Who aren't you?
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Yeah.
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And that's a crime.
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Like in the world that we live in, that's a crime.
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It sucks.
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It's a real shitty thing.
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However, in the world we live in also, you're rich, so nobody's going to bother you.
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But we can't trust you with these rockets anymore.
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No, those rockets go to Mark Zuckerberg.
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So what we're going to do is we're going to give these rockets to the guy from The Social
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Network by Aaron Sorkin.
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The guy.
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Is he a real guy or was that a fictional movie?
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Like I'm going to need you, because I don't believe-
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He's slightly fictional.
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I don't believe Sorkin's dialogue.
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Look, I love everybody masturbating to his liberal bullshit dialogue, but I'm going to
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be honest with you, it doesn't sound like the way real people talk.
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Sure.
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Imagine the most nightmarish conspiracy version of Mark Zuckerberg.
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That version-
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Rockets!
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That version does not involve rockets.
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That doesn't involve the infrastructure that is required in order to have rocket contracts.
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What do you mean?
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Are you saying that the Facebook campuses aren't building rockets?
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No.
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I'm saying that's a totally different business.
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What Mark Zuckerberg is into is stealing your information and selling it to the highest
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bidder.
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It's not the same business that is involved with actual... To build a rocket, you need-
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It's tough.
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You need a lot of different departments.
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You need a lot of specialized scientists, and Mark Zuckerberg is not in that business.
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No.
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The idea that Mark Richards is pitching to Kerry, look, Elon Musk, a guy with a rocket
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company-
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Right.
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Who committed a crime-
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Got indicted-
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That requires jail time.
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Because he's out of the picture, which he is not, Mark Zuckerberg now gets his rocket
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contracts.
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Yeah.
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Ludicrous.
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I do like-
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Ludicrous.
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I do like the world view though-
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I do too.
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I do too.
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Of every billionaire is also Scorpio from... Is also Hank Scorpio from The Simpsons.
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I also-
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Irregardless of how you made your money, you are also Scorpio.
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You're also an evil super villain.
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No.
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Well, there's that.
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I also like the idea that no matter what, if you're one of these people that we're taught
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to be afraid of, these figureheads of businesses and stuff like that, one of them goes down,
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you are... You might be varsity at Facebook-
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Hold on.
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Hold on, Dan.
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You are the sixth man at Tesla.
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Are you waiting to say Hale Hydra?
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Because I think that's what you're about to say.
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More or less.
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You will easily slide in as now the CEO of Tesla.
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How hard can it be?
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It's nonsense.
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Look, if you know how to market a social network, you know how to build a rocket.
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That's science.
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Science.
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I read that.
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It's bad science.
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I read that in Science Magazine that's about science.
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So that's crazy.
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Yeah.
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In this next clip-
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Wait, he really said that though, right?
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Oh yeah, he did.
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He really said that Elon Musk, because he was indicted, all of his contracts now went
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to Zuckerberg.
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Not all his contracts, his rocket contracts.
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Just his rocket contracts went to Zuckerberg.
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And then let's hear the end of this really quick, because I feel like it bears hearing
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again the way that Kerry Peters out at the end of this, because she has no specifics.
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The rocket deals that were part of Elon Musk's stuff-
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Stuff.
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Couldn't have even come up with portfolio.
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I would have accepted portfolio.
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You would have sounded like you knew what you were talking about.
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Better than stuff.
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Better than stuff.
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You know, it's just Zuckerberg gets his stuff.
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Hey, we'll give his stuff to Zuckerberg.
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Move on.
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We all know that's how the SEC works.
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I wish I could find my South Side Suburb Chicago voice again.
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No, no, no.
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Apparently it's not coming up.
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Glad you can't.
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So in this next clip, we all know that Mark Richards has already said that he's remote
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viewed Eddie Page.
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And that he could smell a Pleiadian immediately.
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You'd be able to tell.
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Which is-
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For sure.
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Kind of racist in and of itself.
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No, he's married to one, he knows, which is also racist as a justification.
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So-
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It's okay for me to say the P word because I married one.
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Right.
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Basically.
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So we get this really interesting way that Mark is trying to really invalidate Eddie
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Page.
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But he's doing it through like secondary kind of thing.
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Like the way he's using language is sort of like-
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Raptor told me he had a small dick?
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Nope.
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Mark Richards is trying to do an if A then B, if B then C. And Kerry isn't really picking
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up on the syllogism.
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Mark said because he was married to a Pleiadian, he knows quite a bit about them.
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He does not believe Pleiadians can be mind controlled.
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Why?
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Now in Eddie's case, he said he thought they could be mind controlled if they allow it.
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And one does wonder why a Pleiadian would allow themselves to be mind controlled by
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humans.
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Yeah, you would.
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And this does open the question as to which races are programming humans at this time.
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It does.
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It does open that up.
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The only possibilities are what you said exactly, that Eddie Page is a Pleiadian and he is chosen
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to become brainwashed.
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He's going undercover.
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Probably not.
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Or he's lying about being a Pleiadian because he is mind controlled.
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That's established.
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He is mind controlled.
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He is mind controlled.
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Everybody agrees.
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If he's mind controlled-
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Except for him, which makes sense.
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Right.
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If he denies it, that's only corroborating evidence to the fact that he is mind controlled.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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There are both avenues that are possible.
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The two avenues and both are Eddie Page is a fucking suspect and don't trust him.
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Can't trust him.
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Which is obviously super advantageous for Mark because it's like, I'm protecting my
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fucking turf.
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It's also super advantageous for Kerry because fuck Eddie Page.
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Sure.
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He's become too much of a liability with his video game shit and his racism.
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I would much rather, now speaking as Kerry, I would much rather have my narrative with
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the greatest whistleblower in the world who's in prison that I can completely control the
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narrative of.
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Exactly.
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Even if he says the N word when I'm talking to him, I don't have to report that.
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I can just whitewash and be like, okay, here's what he's saying.
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Oh my God, isn't this interesting that it's so close to exactly what I believe?
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Yeah.
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So obviously the two people's interests that are best served by invalidating Eddie Page
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are Kerry Cassidy and Mark Richards.
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Which may be why Kerry could have expedited this visit, so to speak.
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Or just not done it or the second Eddie started to smell bad, just be like, nah, I'm done
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with this.
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You could have done that, but you just, you're like the sirens.
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You hear someone saying that they're an alien and you're gone to the coast.
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And your fucking ship is going to wreck.
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And it eats you alive.
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So in this next clip, because he was married to a Pleiadian, Mark Richards has some ways
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to tell who is a Pleiadian.
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His dick.
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Some of this is very reminiscent of other characterizations of people.
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Oh no.
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One thing that Mark did say that helps you tell a Pleiadian is that they don't like to
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look at you directly in the eyes.
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They have trouble responding to everyday chat with appropriate micro expressions and they
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tend to copy or imitate our micro expressions during conversation rather consciously.
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And he used an example that humans lick their lips sort of involuntarily, even during a
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conversation or something, but that's something that the Pleiadings would never do.
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And that they would then adopt that behavior purposely.
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And so it would look quite odd.
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And so this kind of is a giveaway on being able to tell someone is Pleiadian.
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I mean, I guess that's better than where I thought it was going.
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Like instead he was like, you can never trust anybody on the autistic spectrum as opposed
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to where I thought he was going, which is like, uh, they don't like to swim and they
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like watermelon and fried chicken.
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Like I'm better off, I'm better off thinking that he hates, I don't know why.
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You're on the wrong side of this.
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These are people who are good.
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The Pleiadians are good.
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So he's not saying anything negative about this, but it is weird because you are correct
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in terms of like the sort of odd characterizations he's making are the Asperger's type spectrum,
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the autism spectrum, that he's describing like people who are averse to eye contact,
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social cues being misunderstood.
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That sort of thing is what he's described.
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I think he read an article.
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Anyone who's not neurotypical.
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I think he read an article on that sort of thing and he's like, oh, that's what Pleiadians
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are, which I actually feel pretty good about.
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Because the Pleiadians are heroes in that world.
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So the fact that he's not like taking this neuro atypical group and demonizing them,
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he said they, that is a way to tell who are the good among us.
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I mean at the same time though, that's accidental, but it's positive.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, I don't know that that gets into the, uh, into the stereotype game where it's
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like, oh, you're right.
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Is it, is it positive?
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It's othering and saying that sort of behavior is alien.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Whenever somebody is like, oh no, no, no, I'm not being racist towards Asian people.
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They're just better at math.
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And you're like, no, you are, I get that you're expressing it as a positive connotation, but
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that doesn't necessarily mean that you're not being a complete and total racist.
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No, you're right.
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You're right.
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Like he's, he's definitely like, um, I saw a, this movie and I'm going to tell you right
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now, he, this guy, this Pleiadian, he kept saying Wapner is crazy.
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Like it's, it's, you're right.
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It is like that.
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But for the bar that we live here, fair, fair, it's, it's better than the other, it's better
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than the alternative.
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Again, he could have, yeah, he could have taken the, uh, the idea of, uh, sort of autism
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spectrum, uh, traits and applied it to a negative evil alien race and he didn't do that.
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Right.
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So it's like, it's not great, but we got to recognize the slight win.
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I guess it's, I, I'm not a fan of anyone.
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No, because we live in the real world and we know that like, I mean, Mark is just wrestling
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with stuff.
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Yeah.
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And there's a lot of shit he's, he's clearly trying to work out through this interview
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series with Kerry.
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Um, so Jordan, in this next clip, yeah, I know that earlier in this show you were expressing
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it an idea that the Raptors kill people for chocolate, which has been brought up by Kerry
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and Mark in the past and has been proven true.
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Well, apparently I think that you're foolish, uh, to think that that is a reason not to
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trust them.
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Is it?
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It's explained in this next clip.
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Okay.
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You know, he, one thing he said was an interesting comment.
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He said the Raptors, mantids, platians, and canonians are loyal to us, just like in world
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war two.
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Sure.
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And he says that our allies, especially in deep space, have really stepped up and taken
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up the fight with Draco.
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And uh, he has never been double crossed by a Raptor and even he used to be suspicious
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of them because they used to eat people, but now he feels they're totally loyal.
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So calm down.
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They used to eat people.
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Mark Richards, he was suspicious about that.
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He's grown through it.
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And now with Jordan, Jordan, it is time for you to go through that head shake.
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No.
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Back in the past, Mark Richards was just like you.
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He heard these things that they like to eat people and he was like, uh, no, no, not cool.
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Not cool.
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He's seen their track record.
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They, they're loyal, just like in world war two.
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They got our back.
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These rappers.
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Yeah.
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Now they admittedly ate people for chocolate, but that's in the past.
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We all have a lot of struggles in life and one of them, and one of them is my allies
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who I ostensibly control.
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Of course.
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Eat people.
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Yeah.
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That is tough.
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It can be a tough way.
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It can be an issue.
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It's super advantageous for you to be like, look, I know that it's going to one of their
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things is, you know, whatever, but you got to look at the bigger picture.
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They just blew up a Draco moon, right?
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So Hey, are you going to sneeze on that?
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We never would have stopped Napoleon if the Russians hadn't had a lot of land or world
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war two.
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Yeah.
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We never would have stopped to Hitler if the Russians hadn't had a lot of land, right?
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That's been a nice target for him.
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So I don't know.
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There's nothing good here.
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Jordan, we are now entering what I will say is the new Mark Richards game, which we should
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have been playing all along, quite frankly, or maybe even the new project Camelot game,
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which is I know that every single time we do an episode that involves space, there will
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be a new race of aliens that comes up.
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Oh, okay.
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Now I like this game.
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I like this game.
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So what do we got?
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I have a clip that will introduce a new race of aliens, but I need for you, Jordan, to
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come in and tell me what do you think that race of aliens will be?
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This is a good question.
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I will do this.
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I will tell you that I will answer five questions about what this race of aliens is.
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You cannot make a guess before you ask those five questions.
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Is it a mammalian species?
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No.
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All right.
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Is it a reptilian species?
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I actually can't say, you can't ask me that question.
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I'll answer the question.
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That's not one of your five.
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All right.
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It is considered a reptilian species, but the name would not lead you to think that
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it is.
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The name is not a reptile, but the people think of them as reptilian.
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That's the most confusing thing that you have ever said to me.
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But I have to be clear about this.
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All right.
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What sector, what sector of space are they from?
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Not clear.
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Even if I answered that, it would not help you.
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Okay.
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Two questions down.
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All right.
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Number three.
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Number three.
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All right.
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You need to really just start asking concrete questions.
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All right.
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I just, okay.
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Are they evil?
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You bet.
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Number three.
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Okay, you bet.
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Super evil.
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So we have established a non-mammalian reptilian species that you wouldn't expect to be reptilian.
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The name is not reptilian.
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From an undefined sector of space that is evil.
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Very evil.
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All right.
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So we've got that established.
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So let's narrow it down.
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You have two questions left.
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Narrow it down.
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You're never going to get this.
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We're narrowing it down.
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We're narrowing it down.
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Can they breathe under water?
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I honestly don't know the answer to the question, but I will say based on the name, no.
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Okay.
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So I'm going to call, I'm going to give you, you have one question left.
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All right.
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I have one question left.
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You should, if I were you, I would have asked way different questions.
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All right.
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Well, yeah, obviously that's why we aren't doing you talking by yourself the show.
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That's a fair point.
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Last question, Jordan.
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All right.
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This reptilian species that you would not immediately assume is reptilian based upon
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their name.
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Are they, uh, a, a, a indigenous to a certain continent?
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And if so, what continent is that?
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If further, so is that an Island continent that could be explained away as evolutionary,
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uh, anyways, there's a three-part question that I'm going to reject, dude, it's not going
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to help you.
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It's not going to help.
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All right.
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Now you have to give your guests.
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All right.
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So I'm going to go with, uh, can't be dragons.
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So I'm going to go with salamanders.
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So I also asked Mark about the dragon Mar moths, because I wondered if they were attacking
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the Draco as well.
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Dragon moths are not reptilian are also enemies of humans.
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So, um, it's interesting.
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If you want more about the dragon moths, uh, the, the Oceana Dean Voyager books go into
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this race as well as others, highly recommended, uh, and Mark is aware of the dragon moth said,
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he did not know what their involvement is, uh, at this time, he's not aware of the battles
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with Draco.
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He knows that they're in play, but he doesn't know what they're up to.
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Oh, do you mean she said, do you know about the dragon moths?
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And he said, I know about them.
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I don't feel like they're part of this.
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It's pretty crazy that you were like, uh, you did say dragon right before, like, you
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know, that was like, it can't be a dragon moths, but that's why dragon moth.
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Well, they're considered.
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That was a very misleading answer.
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What?
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You said that they were a reptilian species that wouldn't be considered.
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You motherfucker.
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I didn't, I play the tape back.
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What I said was they are considered to be a reptilian species based on my research,
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looking into an encyclopedia of aliens, but dragon moth is not a reptile, so the name
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itself would not lead you to, like, if you asked is it a bug, I would have said you're
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on the right track.
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Exactly.
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That sort of thing.
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I got it now.
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Right.
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All right.
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Cause you know what?
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It's my fault.
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It is.
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This whole confusion has been my, my creation.
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So the Oceana Dean books, the Voyager books, I looked into this.
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These are these books that talk about like all the same shit that Kerry talks about.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And here's a little fun fact about them.
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Yeah.
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You can buy a used copy of the paperback for $75 on, on, uh, on Amazon.
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Oh, they must be good books.
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Yeah.
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It must be great.
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It must be amazing.
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Basically a textbook.
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Yeah.
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They're, they've been in print.
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They've been in print for so long.
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Hot property.
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So many people own them.
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It's hard not to get rid of them.
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Yeah.
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So I looked up the, uh, the, the dragon moths and they are like a conceived race of aliens
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that exist.
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I found it very Mothra style.
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I found an encyclopedia of alien races that actually tickled me so much.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's like fucking E. Gary Gygax.
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It might as well be the book of monsters.
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It's the book of monsters.
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Yeah.
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It's nuts.
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There's the bootilians.
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These are reptilians from the boots system.
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No, that's, that seems at the, at the very least that's direct.
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Mm hmm.
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Mm hmm.
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There's also blue people.
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Just blue people?
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The Cherokee tell of a race of people that were blue skinned, uh, that they came upon
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when they took the lands of Kentucky.
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No, those guys are from Kentucky.
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Bingo.
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That's not an alien race.
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Those are, those are just people from Kentucky.
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That's the Appalachians.
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That's, that's literally like, oh boy, inbreeding is bad.
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The aliens.
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That's crazy.
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I feel like that there are dragon moths now.
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We got mantids.
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We got reptilians.
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We got raptors.
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Spider leadership.
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We got spider leadership.
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We got dragon moths now.
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Of course.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's crazy.
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Gotta throw them in there.
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This world of bugs is just increasing.
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It's not, it's never not bugs.
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I don't understand.
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It's always bugs.
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I don't understand why it is that ants aren't number one on the alien species, uh, jump
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to list.
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I feel like they're in there though.
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Ants are fucking incredible.
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When you talk to like hollow earth people, they definitely talk about ant people.
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They're in there.
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They're in the mix.
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That makes more sense to me than any of this other shit.
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If there was a hollow earth, I would assume that ants were behind it.
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Oh, of course.
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They dig a lot.
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They know what the fuck is up.
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Yeah.
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They're already there.
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Yeah.
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They're the true rulers of this earth.
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Yeah.
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So congratulations, dragon moths.
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You are now part of our, uh, uh, project Camelot cosmology.
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Now Jordan, I've been holding back a little bit.
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Yeah.
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I should tell you that Carrie Cassidy ends up saying something at the end of this episode
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in this next clip that leads me to believe that she is keenly aware of how much she's
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probably misrepresenting the things that Mark Richards tells her and, uh, all of the other
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people that she talks to.
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This is something that she should never have said.
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But what I'm doing with Mark is trading info and in some ways it's a lot like the sort
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of all the president's men.
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Uh, I think it's called deep throat where you basically, you know, you say something
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and if he nods or he says nothing, it's means you're right.
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But um, that's kind of what goes on between Mark and I sometimes.
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And it is a way that I use to get information, um, that's, I guess of a more sensitive nature
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and I am sharing a lot of background information with him, be, you know, sort of when, when
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I ask, ask a question so that he understands where I'm coming from, directing him to give
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me the answer that I want to hear the superficial answer, um, dynamic that goes on with whistleblowers
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in general that I, if you show that you know a certain amount, then they will come and
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sort of meet you halfway.
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If you act like a complete idiot, then you won't learn anything.
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So this is sort of an interesting dynamic I wanted to make people aware of.
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If you come in, it's really not, if you are talking to a con man and you come in and try
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and meet them halfway, they will use all of the information that you have presented to
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inform their answer.
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That's exactly how con men work.
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That's called being a whistleblower.
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It's called cold reading.
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You know how when you blow whistles, the first thing you do is you let the whistle make all
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the noises that it needs to make first and then you try and recreate that noise back
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to the whistle almost as if you're communicating in the whistle.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that makes perfect sense.
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You're a minor bird.
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What she's expressing there, like first of all, at the beginning there, when she's talking
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about like, before you finish that sentence, let me just say of all of the podcasts that
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we have ever done, I think that might be in the running.
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It's damning for the dumbest thing any human being has ever said.
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Well, cause it's so undercuts her entire philosophy.
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It undercuts her entire life's work.
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It undercuts the ability to understand words in, in general.
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Well, because she starts with the idea of like, I talked to Mark and sometimes he doesn't
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respond and then I take that to mean that I'm right.
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Right.
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Which is a, that's a flawed system.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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That's no good.
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Have you ever?
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That's no good.
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Now I'm not saying, I'm not saying that this is a direct one to one comparison.
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Ask me a question.
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Ask me a question.
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Any question.
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Okay.
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Um, what do you think is going on with Saudi Arabia right now?
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Do you think that it's a, some kind of a power grab by a ruler that is unwilling to accept
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any kind of criticism?
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All right.
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Do you think that maybe what's going on is a, a, a ruler who is unwilling to accept any
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kind of criticism, decided to overreach his power because really he was kind of just wanting
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to test how far his power would reach, you know, like, can he do something this publicly
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egregious on the world stage and still get away with it?
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Okay, now I get what you're saying.
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This is evidence that I know about this and I don't want to talk about it.
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That's bad.
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That sort of level of, of, of reasoning is, is terrible.
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Like I said, that's the dumbest, no, that's, that's the dumbest thing I think we've ever,
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you can't, you can't live in a world where people think like that and that's okay.
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Especially when the person who's not answering the questions is a dude who orchestrated a
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murder and has been conning you for years.
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I know.
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Oh, that would be terrible.
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We should elect him president.
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Then the second aspect of it, which is even more damning, which is crazy that you said
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it all within one minute, is that she's like, well, what I do is I give context to the questions
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before I ask it because I don't want a superficial answer, which is what a con man needs in order
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to answer the question.
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So if you want a real question, if you want a real answer from somebody who has quote
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unquote remote viewed information, you need to have a control group.
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You need to have a completely non bastardized set of information.
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You need Carrie Cassidy to show up and say nothing to Mark and Mark say, here's what
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I know.
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Now, if, if in that case it does match up with what Simon Park says, still don't care,
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but it's better than when Carrie is saying, here's what Simon Mark Parks believes I respect
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him.
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He's really great.
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Eddie Page is kind of an asshole.
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I really like him.
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And then what he spits out is, oh, I kind of agree with what Simon Parks is saying.
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I'm going to sort of go along with that.
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Eddie, I remote viewed him.
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He's deaf.
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You said that he was a being a mind controlled.
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He definitely is.
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She's giving up the game.
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When I go to an astrologist, I always provide them with all of the information of what's
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going on in my life.
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And I give them a clear indicator of what it is that I hope continues to happen in my
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life.
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And what I hope stops happening in my life.
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And it's so wild to me how accurate they are in their predictions of what I want to happen
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in my life.
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It's always crazy.
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Something that happens.
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It's always crazy.
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And what I don't want it to happen in my life being something that not happened.
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It's so weird.
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I generally leave feeling pretty good.
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It's insane that they even charged me for this knowledge that they just have.
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I feel pretty good.
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Now, granted, I paid two hundred dollars, but I feel great.
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It's almost criminal every time I go to a psychic.
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They ask me all of these questions and then whenever I answer them, they give me the answers
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I want to hear this is that is bananas.
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This is what she just said in that last clip is one hundred percent how confidence games
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work.
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It is the exact like you couldn't be more.
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The definition.
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It is literally the definition of how to run a con.
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Yep.
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She just said, you give information and said, I am running a con on me.
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That's what she just said.
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Yep.
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I'm allowing this con to run a con on me.
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So who's really running the con?
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I don't know.
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Who cons the con men?
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The con.
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I mean, Carrie's making money off.
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It's not like she's innocent victim.
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She's doing all right.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's like it's like if you had a psychic in prison and you like this, Cleo was in prison
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and you just used her to sell your money.
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Yeah.
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Like it or to sell your product and find some sort of confirmation that Mark, which I suspect
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very highly, is charging her to do these interviews.
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Yeah.
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If we could find that, then it would be much more concrete that she's the victim of this.
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But at the same time, even if that's the case, she's still making hay out of it.
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She's still making money.
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Yeah.
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Like there's like when I listen to this, I had to cut out all of it.
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But there's like I'm I'm I'm recording this from the YouTube video and there's like eight
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ads for an hour video.
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Right.
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It's highly monetized.
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Yeah.
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She has tons of ads playing throughout all of her videos.
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Frankly, to be honest, I'm actually this is a weird thing for me to say, but for Mark
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and Carrie's relationship, I feel like Mark is a real content creator and he is not being
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paid to the level that he deserves.
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I mean, if we want to talk about I mean, if you want to get like a who really invented
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Superman.
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OK.
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Like I'm just saying if we want to talk about like like Mark should form a union.
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I mean, this union.
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Yeah.
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They should start a union where they demand a living wage and podcast guests deserve to
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be paid for their appearance.
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Agreed.
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Yes.
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I can't afford that shit, Jordan.
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At this point, I think we get a really clear picture of what's going on.
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We have.
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Yeah.
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Carrie is accidentally revealed that she leads questions and Mark yes, and them.
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Once again.
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Once again, we are dealing with the person who is the weakest link of the propaganda
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chain.
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Yeah.
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At this point, Carrie is doing this live because she tried to record it, not live.
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She tried to do it and the file disappeared.
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She thinks that that's some sort of nefarious interference by.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She has Bell's palsy.
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Whatever.
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No, it's that she.
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Her computer has Bell's palsy.
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Yeah.
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There's some.
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Who cares?
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Yeah.
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It's happened to us multiple times.
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We've lost an episode or two.
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It's not the aliens.
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Yeah.
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On Project Camelot live, there are a bunch of people in the stream and she gets one question
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that I think is the most important question that has ever been asked on a Project Camelot
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live stream.
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Here's her response.
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So let's see.
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No, Mark Richards is not lying.
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So you know, let's see.
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Okay.
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The question was just this guy lying to you.
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Is this guy lying to you?
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No.
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No.
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Because you making me think about that is I'm going to keep talking.
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That's unpleasant.
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Oh my God.
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It's not great to think about.
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Oh my God.
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I don't want to think about it.
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Anyway, Jordan.
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Yes.
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You've come to the end of this Mark Richards adventure.
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I think we've learned a lot.
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Do you understand?
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Kind of.
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I think maybe you can appreciate when I said at the beginning of this episode, the first
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time I listened through it, I thought that it was kind of like, it's not as salacious
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as a lot of the times.
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Because there's not those like big reveals of like, oh, the first time we encountered
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the raptors, that was big.
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I mean, you're dead into it because you've listened to hours upon hours of it.
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Whereas I've only listened to the clips that you've curated for me, right?
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So even at my most Project Camelot infused self, it is one 100th of what it is you deal
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with.
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So when you listen to this episode, you're like, he's saying all this kind of shit.
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And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about light years?
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Like that kind of a thing.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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So there's that.
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Yeah.
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But even from my end, like going back through this, I think there's so much in there.
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I think there's a lot.
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I'm just missing Minerva.
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I think at the hour when when I think that when Joanne cares about Minerva anymore, when
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Alex has lost that from his narrative, when Alex disappears into the ether, our next podcast
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needs to be called Missing Minerva, where we just talk about where we think Minerva
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is right now.
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We should do a bonus, whether or not she's doing OK.
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We should do a bonus.
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It's just you and me for an hour sitting around talking about what we think might happen.
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I'm going to be honest, it would probably get more to more YouTube viewers than undoubtedly.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, thank you all for listening.
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We appreciate it.
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I hope you enjoyed this trip down bullshit Avenue, but which is so unusual to what we
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normally do.
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We'll be back on Friday with a nice, hot Alex Jones episode.
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But until then, you can find us on our website, knowledgefight.com.
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Join on Twitter or wherever we are there at Knowledge Underscore Fight.
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Name a smaller subsection of that social network.
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I don't like how you describe it that way, but we have a I don't know how else to describe
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it.
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You know what I mean?
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I would say a cozy home within that social network.
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I see.
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But it's kind of like a social network that's hosted by a larger social network that mining
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all of our data for profit.
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That is still there.
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But it's called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
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Indeed, it is.
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Find us there.
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It means the world.
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Though we might not be as receptive as we need to be to honor this relationship.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We would never kill you.
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Although.
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We don't make guarantees on this podcast, Dan.
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We know one guy who has probably killed a dude.
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Yeah.
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And that's Alex Jones.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.