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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Well Alex I'm a person color I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed
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We are Dan. Hi, Jordan. Dan. What? How do you feel about Lil Wayne's new album?
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I don't give a shit. The Carter five
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Do you feel like it's a return to form for a guy who had really kind of lost his fastball for the past four
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Not four or five years have not cared about little Wayne since the block is hot
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Thought everything was downhill from fuck the world
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It's great song fuck the world or of course the black
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Alright, how do you feel about Christine and the Queens? I don't know. Is this a new doo-wop girl?
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It's like this French lady. Oh, no, I don't know. I might be interested. Yeah, this is a
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a reserve judgment. Yeah, no, it's it's interesting
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People are giving it a lot of a lot of high praise and I don't know how I feel more interested in it
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Then little Wayne's new album not telling it in that Kendrick has this crazy narrative thing
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He goes on he does a bunch of voices fucking fantastic
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I'd like to apologize to everybody that we did not have an episode on Friday
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rare sick day
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Real coincidental right after two episodes prior you asked me when the last time I got sick was coincidentally
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And uh sick as a dog provided that that dog is very sick
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You know what? You know what? I do have a contention with the group there. Oh, everybody was like
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Oh get well soon Dan and then people were mad at me
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Well, it's like nobody gave me any sympathy when I was when I was sick
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Didn't take a fucking day off. Well, that's because I take days off
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You could do this
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I can't do all the stuff that I have to do when I'm like writhing in a ball
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Anyway that is kind of rude of them and no, it's fine apologize on their behalf. No, I apologize on my behalf
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Anyway, we are back in full effect
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And thrilled to be here. I am I'm excited about what's going to go down today
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I had some other thought but I lost it. I can't remember what it is
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Um, I think it's a do you know who else is thrilled to be here? Oh, is that our new donors?
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I know that was a great transition on my part. Okay, just put a
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patent yourself
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So first of all, I'd like to say thank you to a new donor this is very exciting
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I'd like to say thank you so much to mr. Matthew. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Mr. Matthew
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Thank you very much. Mr. Matthew is the is Matthew the first name or the last it's mr. Matthew
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Well, it could be both I call people whatever the name comes up as could be mr. Matthew Matthew could be
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Well, we'll never know we will never know that's true. But this is next one very exciting
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I can't even tell you how excited I am to announce our new donor and say very a very heartfelt. Thank you to this person
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And they donated on a little bit of an elevated level
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So they're coming in as a globalist very excited to welcome aboard Alex Jones. Why I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Thank you Alex Joe, thank you so much Alex Jones and the real Alex Joe
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I'm really sorry for you, but I just don't think you can afford to donate to our show. Yeah, I think you're good
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Yeah, you got to save that money, man
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But either way we do appreciate you understanding where the truth lies and what should be supported and signing up
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So Jordan today, like I said, I was sick
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I don't want to make too big of a deal of it, but it made it very difficult to engage with work
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Like right legitimately for a couple of days
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I was just alternating Lee taking really hot baths and laying in bed playing Skyrim because I couldn't barely move great
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Great idea both. I wanted to get work done
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I wanted to jump in with this Alex Jones bullshit and it was very difficult and in the time that
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Since I mean we were recording this here a big beginning of the week. Yeah
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um Thursday was when we recorded our last episode and since then in that in-between time some weird things have happened a few things have
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happened in the in the intermediate period of time in the world of Alex Jones in particular like
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I know that a couple things were posted in the group that were brought to my attention people asking like what we think about
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This way I thought at the beginning of this episode. It might be good to just sort of give a blanket comment on a couple things
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So the first thing was someone posted
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Like, you know a blog post where someone like was surprised that Alex Jones was saying that football players kneeling are kneeling to white
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Genocide and my comment today what my comment to that is
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Why is this person surprised? Like why is the person writing that blog surprised? I have no comment Alex talks about that all the time
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Yeah, he's very much afraid of white genocide. That's a big part of his narratives
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So that doesn't we don't need to spend he's mainly afraid of black people
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Black people exercising any kind of rights at all asserting their place in society as equals
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Yeah, he's very not a fan
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Then the other one is a little bit more interesting and I actually got a message from policy wonk Jonathan about this
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It was actually really he brought up some interesting points. And that was that Alex Jones recently crashed a
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The what was it what festival thing in Austin? Yeah, it's like a trib fest and sure there was a panel
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Charlie Worsell from BuzzFeed was on the panel and we're talking about like web censorship and stuff like that, right?
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And so Alex showed up with a bullhorn and tried to derail the proceedings. That's fun, which was super irony crusher for maybe
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I don't know if he's numbering them anymore
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but it's super ironic because part of the panel what they were talking about was Alex and his
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Situation and then lo and behold Alex shows up right and derails the ability of the people to run the panel
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Well, no, I mean it makes the panel the panel's job is much easier
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They're just go like see and then they then they all leave. Well, they offered him a place on the dais
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They offered him to engage in the terrible idea. Just kept yelling in his bull horse
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um and the point that Jonathan brought up is and I
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Soon as I saw this story I said I have no interest in this. Yeah, I don't want to talk about yeah
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this is just him further deteriorating and declining down right road of
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Of he's no longer on places. So he's gonna go bum rush people. Right, right. He's got to get attention somehow
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Yeah, Jonathan brought up a really good point of like, you know
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He's kind of like you see a mental state deterioration and like he's just yelling slogans
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Like yeah, the answer to set 1984 1776. Yeah instead of anything substantive
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He's just yelling bumper sticker phrases. Uh-huh, and he made another really good point that I think is
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interesting that we haven't brought up necessarily and that is if you look at the way that Owen Schroyer treats Alex Jones these days
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It's kind of like the child of an alcoholic parent. Oh, you know how like when yeah
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Alex quote-unquote turned on Trump. Uh-huh. Owen was like Alex. Maybe we should stop. Maybe we should you know, yeah
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We're out of delay. You're swearing too much
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Yeah, that's sort of like trying to compensate for the out-of-control parents behavior
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Uh-huh, and he brought that up and I thought that was really interesting. I wanted to give him credit for that
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I think that's a really
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It's an interesting thought not worth us doing a breakdown of him crashing a speech, right?
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But I just wanted to tip my cap. I thought that was a good good call
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Yeah
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Well, we have called Owen Schroyer like Owen Schroyer is basically like I think we brought up the point that he's he's like
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Alex Jones is daddy. Like that's that's the thing but he's his buff son. Yeah, yeah freddy buff son
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Yeah, but so anyway, those are some of the things that have been coming up
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There's there's more and I'm sure Alex is saying some horrible shit about
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Kavanaugh and I don't really want to talk about that because it's ugly and ball
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Yeah, and I really don't want to scream about any man telling women that they have not been sexually assaulted
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Yeah, I'm not I'm not I don't have the I don't have the emotional energy. Nope. Nope. Nope, not possible
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Um, so suffice it to say
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Kevin I can go fuck himself. Yeah. Oh, yeah
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You want more detailed nuanced analysis? You should probably
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Check in with news shows. Yeah
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And the FBI investigation is a sham which is something that the news shows probably aren't saying that's not true. It will be a shame
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It is yet to exist as in its sham form fair enough so Jordan
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I wanted to talk about I wanted to get into Alex Jones
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I wanted to do what we do best, but I couldn't really get it up for that
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In my still recovering state, uh-huh, and thankfully the gods shone a light down upon me
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I know I told wait literal gods
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Uh, do you mean we're doing an episode about a man who believes you're really you're reading God
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You're reading too much into this. Okay. I know I told you that project Camelot wasn't looking like very green pastures. Uh-huh
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Carrie Cassidy came out of nowhere and surprised me. Wait, so we're back on wacky Wednesday
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I thought we were letting that go for a little bit. We were but now it's now it's back hot manna from heaven spilled into my
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Lap, I listened to this interview and I was like, oh I got it. Okay, we got to do this
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All right. So today we are it's actually with Brett Kavanaugh, isn't it? Oh, man, that would be amazing
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That would be amazing turns out in 2013. Brett Kavanaugh was a guest
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I
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Genuinely think that might be a real thing these days. Yeah, it's possible. Yeah
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Um, so today we got an interesting episode of project Camelot to discuss where we will look at another element of the con
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Uh-huh, and what have you today? We're gonna jump in at the beginning of this interview this
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Well, Carrie gives the guests credits. This goes a little bit long
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But I think it's worth it on some levels just to he has two telescopes a she. Oh, okay. We will
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It's a I'm gonna let this play out as it plays out and see what your your feelings are
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Hi everyone. I'm Carrie Cassidy from a lot and I'm very happy to be here tonight
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I've got Sophia Stewart with me and she's gonna be on the phone line because
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At her end and at my end I had some strange camera failure and so I had to go on to my
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Other computer so I'm it's kind of a different look than the the other one. But at any rate we are live
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So I just want to say that it's great to have you here Sophia
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and what I'm going to do is I'm going to put a bit of your bio on the screen here and
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Go over that with the audience so that we can cover a few of the points in there and then ask you to sort of
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Elaborate. So what we've got is that
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Basically, you're the author of the matrix and the Terminator
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Well eyes and you have claimed
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how Hollywood stole your works and made them obviously into blockbuster movies and
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We have an extensive bio here. It's on my website. I'm putting it on the screen as I speak here
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so that you can see it there, but
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briefly
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She is was a basically a prodigy child prodigy
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terrific white writer poet creative genius and
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Those are terms that were used to describe her and she I guess worked
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in the
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Well, she received a Bachelor of Arts from the City University of New York where a lot of prodigies go
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journalism minors in law and psychology and
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She came under the guidance of various celebrated authors and writers such as Max Siegel
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Who was a former journalist of the New York Times?
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Emile Capoia a publisher editor and essayist and critic and Paul
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Cherry a playwright on Broadway
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And she also served as an intern in TV at the public broadcasting station
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WNET 13
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Worked with the oscar-winning film documentary producer Penny Miller
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Adato and her graduating class was honored with a special letter
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citation from Jimmy Stute Jimmy Carter
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Excuse me president Jimmy Carter. Thanks
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And her love and skills motivated her to move to New York
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So I wanted to play that out because it's sort of the reveal of she wrote the matrix is embedded in there
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It seems like that is the thing she should lead with otherwise
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That is all now. I'm not saying that all prodigies are alike, right?
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I know there are reclusive geniuses like the one guy who's on Jeopardy who went to high school like four times trying to get it
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Who wants to be a millionaire? Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah
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He's a weirdo. He wrote he wrote for the Jimmy Kimmel live show for a while. Really? Yeah, that's great
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Yeah, but this is not prodigy
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This isn't good prodigy resume. I don't want to take away from her collegiate accomplishments
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I don't know one thing for or another about them
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I have nothing to say about them
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But I will say that your graduating class getting a letter from Jimmy Carter doesn't mean shit
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That doesn't mean anything that being in your resume is really padding pretty hard. It's not good now
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Let's look at her list of mentors because this is very interesting
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Yeah, Max Siegel died in 1988
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Emil Capoeira died in 2005
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All right, are any of her mentors still alive to confirm that they were her mentors Leon Roth died in 2006
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I'm starting to see a pattern Paul Cherry died in 2014
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I'm thinking that there might be a pattern here and Penny Miller-Adato is not a person
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Wait, what? Perry Miller-Adato is a person
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She recently died, but was at the age of 97
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So you have to assume that she was probably not going to field any requests for comment
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She was mentoring all kinds of stuff
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97 years young passed away earlier this year
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None of the people who are conceivably a part of her story in as much as they are part of her bio
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as her mentors are alive or can confirm which is mildly suspicious
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It reminds me of, do you know that movie Mumford? That movie Mumford?
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No
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It's about a psychiatrist
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I've heard of his sons
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It's a psychologist, he's faking being a psychologist and he goes to this town and he fixes everybody's lives
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Then he gets in trouble for being a fake psychiatrist
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Right, right, right
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It's a good movie
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It's a tale as old as time
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It's a really fun movie, I liked it a lot
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But the character, the main character Mumford, Dr. Mumford
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We can't use the word doctor, he's not a real doctor
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His whole backstory, whenever he's grilled on it, is this list of people who have died
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Like his collegiate advisor tragically died in an air balloon disaster
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That'll happen
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So I get shades of that whenever I hear this list of all these people who are like dead, dead, dead, dead, all dead
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I hear the same story, but for a quote creative genius that you do for a man who was in the FBI for 20 years
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Where you're like, okay dude, you're on Project Camelot, I'm gonna need more
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Well
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If I met you in the street, maybe I'd give you more of a benefit of the doubt
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But if you're on Project Camelot, there are some questions that need to be answered
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Yeah, you started a lowered state of credibility
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Yeah
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Which is kind of unfortunate, but I still come to this with an objective viewpoint
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And whenever Carrie's reading the bio, I'm like, all right, I smell some kind of weird
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First of all, she's saying she wrote the Matrix and Terminator movies
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But then
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I was halfway expecting her to say that she was the Terminator and is also Neo
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And they stole her life story
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Wrong character, but we'll get to that later
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Okay
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But
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, she is a different character?
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Hold on
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All right, all right
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You're getting ahead of yourself
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So thankfully, even though Carrie sort of wrote, reading off of this bio isn't super great
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Thankfully, Sophia can come in here and give her own version of what's important about her
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Right
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Go ahead
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Yeah, let me go ahead and elaborate for you
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Hello, everyone
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Hey
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I'm from New York City, and the last time I was on Carrie's show was a while ago
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And I won my court case four years ago, actually, September the 25th
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Just a couple of days, a day ago, the 25th, September 2018 is the fourth year of my win
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in the Utah Federal Court
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I won on September the 25th, 2014
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I want everyone to know
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And if you don't believe it, I will give you the court docket so you can read it for yourself
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And everything has been going really great since my win
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The fourth installment of The Matrix is, the book has been out since 2010
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Eight years, selling around the entire globe
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And that's Matrix 4
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I know you guys have seen it on amazon.com
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And of course, my website, matrixterminator.com
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So that movie can be coming soon
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I have some people on the table for it, Warner Brothers offered me $30 million for the script
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What?
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And this billionaire came along and he upped it five more million, which is $35 million
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which is on the table right now
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Check your math
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That's a lot of money
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That's a lot of money
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For some context, Michael Crichton got paid $1.5 million plus a cut of the gross profit
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for writing the screenplay for Jurassic Park, which they already knew about
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ahead of time, this is going to be fucking huge
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So that's even considered like a big payday
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Yeah, no, the cut of the gross profit there, now did he get points on the back end?
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Probably
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That's the question
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I think he did, but based on the deal
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But they never would have paid him $30 million up front
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Oh good god no
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$30 million is approximately 10 times as much as anyone has ever paid for a spec script
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And the examples of folks who have paid $3 million for such a thing are generally stories
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of Hollywood's big mistakes
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There's literally zero chance that anyone has offered Sofia $30 million or $35 million
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That, anybody who has any awareness of how movies are made knows that that is way beyond
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the possibility, even if it's the biggest blockbuster ever
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This is Matrix 4!
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Even so, even so
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And you know how the third one set up that cliffhanger ending that we were all waiting
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to find out what Matrix 4 would be like?
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When they died?
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Yeah, remember that? Remember when Matrix 4 was-
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When there was complete resolution?
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When there was complete resolution at the end? Yeah, remember that?
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Matrix 4!
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Yeah
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How does that- now I want to read Matrix 4
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I do too, actually
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I want to read this Matrix 4
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I really wanted to before this episode, but I was like, I don't think I- I'm not paying
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for this
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There- it's like 30 bucks for an e-book of it
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I'm like, that's a little much
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That's the $30 million of buying a book
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Perhaps
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A good- a good book- e-book? $8.99
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All that other stuff aside, she won her court case, that's cool, I'm really thrilled for
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her fourth anniversary of that, that's awesome, so now she owns the Matrix and Terminator
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So there's a fourth one coming out
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The only thing I find really suspicious at this point is that $30 million figure
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Yeah, exactly
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That's impossible
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That is impossible
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You know how- like, if you look at a movie's budget, that's absurd
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That's- it's just absurd
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Yeah
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So, um
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No, but I mean, come on, everybody in the world is hankering for a Matrix 4
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It's true
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That's- everybody
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Name one person who doesn't want to see Matrix 4
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Me?
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Oh, okay
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I'm fine where it is
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I even don't even- I don't even think that the second two were as bad as I thought before
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Like, when I saw them in theaters, I thought they were terrible
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Yeah
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But I watched them not too long ago, a couple years ago, I was like, I would check back
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in on this
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I didn't think they were nearly as bad as I thought when I was a kid
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They're not as bad as you think
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No, I think they tell- they tell a fine story
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Maybe took a little too long to do it
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Maybe some parts were superfluous as hell
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Yeah
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But, you know, and some stylistic choices I thought were clunky
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Hey, I mean-
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Whatever
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I mean, the next- I think the Wachowski sisters' next movie was a- was a Speed Racer
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I think so
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Yeah
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And then my favorite movie of all time, Cloud Atlas
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That movie is unwatchable
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How dare you
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It is literally unwatchable
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How dare you
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I have never finished that movie
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Well, let me give it another shot
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Okay
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I don't know, I don't think it's a good movie, but I did love it
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I thought it was really good
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All right, all right
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Who cares, the book's better
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But be that as it may, so we've got the lay of the land here
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Yes
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Basically
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Yes, she is a liar
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But I don't know why you're saying that
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I mean, she's embellishing this figure of 30 million for sure
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But you have no reason to call her a liar
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It's entirely possible that all of her legitimate mentors died
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It's possible
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Yeah, and she- maybe she missed the decimal point or something
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Someone offered her 3 million
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Right
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Any of these things are possible
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You're very early in calling her a liar
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Of course
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See, because there's a lot of people out there that think that she doesn't own
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The Matrix and Terminator movies
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And actually there's some articles about that online
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And Carrie asks her about that in this next clip
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Why is it that some articles
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There was one in 2013 who was saying that
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That's five years
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Some reason that they said that your court case wasn't settled
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Was that because it hadn't settled yet at that point?
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Yes, 2013 article, it was before I won the court case
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Because what I needed to do in second court case
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Which was never done in the first court case
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Was to enter in my copyright
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To enter in the derivative movie
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And to enter in the copyrights to the derivative movie
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Right
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What I forgot to do was present evidence
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Because I'm the creator and two federal judges
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The magistrate judge Evelyn J. First
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And of course federal judge Dee Benson
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And their rulings validated in the fact that the movie
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These derivative movies came from my third eye matrix script and book
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Huh?
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That it's validated as a fact
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I can send the document over to anyone who want to dispute it
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Pre-emptively defensive is not a good way to live
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Reading and hearing about is this snoop
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The snoop is something that's been carrying old news on the internet
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Ever since 2005 when my case got dismissed in California
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The defendants, Warner Brothers, Gail Ann Hurd, James Cameron, Andy and Larry Wojcicki
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And 26 Drew Fox and all of these defendants
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They never won that case
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A lot of them terminated out before the judge's ruling
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Because they were scared of the RICO going to jail
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What?
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You cannot go to jail in a civil court
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You can if you invoke the RICO act
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You can't invoke RICO on
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This is racketeering my friend
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How is it racketeering?
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Because Joel Silver, Warner Brothers, the Wachowskis
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They all got together and formed a criminal syndicate
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In order to rip off Sophia Stewart, the rightful owner of the Matrix and Terminator movies
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Also throw James Cameron in there and a couple other people
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Yeah, gotta throw James Cameron in there
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A couple other people who I have no idea who the fuck they are
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You know what, let's throw Joel Schumacher in there
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That guy needs to go down
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Whoever directed that Sarah Connor TV show, throw him in there too
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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Everybody's going down because they're a criminal syndicate
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That's where the RICO act comes in
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And that's why they tricked everybody into voting Arnold as governor
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So he could sweep this all under the rug
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I'm sure that's
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He's already given a pardon to all of these
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A preemptive pardon
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Right, I'm sure that's a piece of this that we just don't have time to get into
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And neither did Sophia
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I'm gonna assume that's a piece of the narrative
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But the RICO act is one of those things that like
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You often hear these people who are making these audacious claims
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They invoke racketeering often
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Alex throws around racketeering RICO stuff all the time
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Whenever he's sort of running out of steam
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It was in the Dark Knight
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And now you hear the RICO act is what the Wachowskis and Warner Brothers were afraid of
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Which is why they terminated out of the original
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Oh no, I got it
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Lawsuit
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They terminated out?
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I don't get
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Get it
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I don't get how
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She wrote the Terminator
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I don't get how someone who is being sued can do that without settling
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Oh no, no, no
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Which clearly isn't what happened
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They just say no
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Uh, no thank you
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No thanks
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I don't want to be sued
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I don't want to be sued today
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I don't feel like being sued
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No sues
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Excuse me, sir
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You
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No sues me
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Sophia, I believe you forgot that we called no tag backs
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So, sorry
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Look, I don't think that her version of that is necessarily accurate
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But that case, you know, who knows?
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Man, when we get to the reveal of how this court case actually go down
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I think we're all waiting with bated breath
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This is fucking ratcheting up tension, Dan
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So what you don't understand, Jordan
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You might be thinking like, why are these two things connected?
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These two IPs, these intellectual properties
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The Matrix and Terminator, why are they connected?
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Right
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And Sophia explains that they're all the same story
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So why don't you tell people how it is you came to write, first of all, the Matrix
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And I, because I think that's the first one that came forward
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And then the Terminator series
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No, no, the Terminator actually came first
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And Terminator and Matrix is one epic story
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It's past, present, and future time travel
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Oh
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Most of the fans know this
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Oh, I get it
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The Matrix is the future
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Terminator is the beginning of the epic story
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And Sarah Connor is really Neo's mother
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What?
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Because it's past
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Holy shit, I want to watch it
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What I wrote was the second coming of the Christ
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The evolution of consciousness, man versus the machine
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In other words, the machines here, the oral proof prophecy
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That a baby is going to be born
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That's going to grow up to destroy them in the future
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That's actually me
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So the Terminators are coming to kill Sarah Connor
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But they're time traveling, naked without shame
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Because they look just like we look
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Wrapped in flesh, killed but cannot be killed
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Nice
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They're looking for Sarah Connor just to kill her
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So the baby Neo will never be born
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Right
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So JC, John Connors, JC, John Connors
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I get it
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Jesus Christ grows up to be Neo one and the same in the Matrix
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Not in Terminator 2 he doesn't
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In Terminator 2 he has a Matrix
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Yeah, because Terminator was made October the 26th, 1984
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And my copywriter in 1981, 83, and 84
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My copyrights came way before the movie
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And all they did was adapt my script and my book to the screen
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And created the three Terminators immediately
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And then in 1999, March the 31st, the release of the Matrix
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That's when they created the Matrix trilogy
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One thing that's important to consider is that Terminator came out in 1984
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But that doesn't mean that that's when it began development
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Or anything like that
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It actually takes a while to make movies
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Especially a movie like that in the early 80s
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You know, the idea that it took at least a year and a half to make that movie
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Oh, just the editing process alone
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Right, right
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And you can actually look into the history of how the Terminator movie got made
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And it took a while
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Yeah
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It took a while
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People didn't have much faith in the idea and...
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No, they were like, that dude can't even speak English
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There's no way this is going to work out
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All I'll say right now is I guarantee the producers of the Terminator were like
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Well, I'll tell you what, this man's never going to be governor of California
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I do like the story though that she's telling
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Like, you responded to the idea of like, I want to see
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No, crossover Terminator Matrix fucking
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Look, I saw Alien versus Predator, that fucking sucked
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But Matrix versus Terminator, fuck yes
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Well, you know, the reason that those two are pretty similar spiritually
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Is because they both pull on very old archetypes
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I was going to say
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The two movies do sort of blend together when you want them to
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If you want to tell them as one story, you can
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Because they both use sort of savior archetypes
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They both pull on the same man versus technology
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Sort of fears that humanity has had since we started making robots and technology
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Since we started making fire
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So we had electricity at least
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So that's why those things can come together
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And it is appealing, it is appealing
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The idea of like, let's fucking throw them together
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Oh, hell yeah
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See how it works
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I will say this, you know, you can do some research
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And you can find that this Sophia Stewart did have a trademark, a copyright
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Registered from February 1983 on her book, Third Eye
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Not Third Eye Matrix
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Did she just mail it to herself?
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Nope, it is through the US Library of Congress
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Copyright Office
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All right, nice
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It is, you know, it's a legit thing
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She did copyright Third Eye
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Was it published?
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Um, it is listed here as the entire text
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I believe when it is, give me a second here
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It's six pages long, I believe
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It's a short story
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Yeah, it's a manuscript treatment
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Yeah
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Yeah, it's a bit
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But so it's a manuscript
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It's a manuscript treatment that she shopped around
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And if it's only six pages long, I'm gonna guess it was not actually published
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You can't say, well I mean it did, it was eventually a book
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I'm not sure the exact year that she put out a book
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But Third Eye is what she's basing a lot of this on
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Right
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And you can't take away that it was in 1983, presumably a year before Terminator came out
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There is a copyright that she has on file for this Third Eye treatment that she has
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So
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She wrote the Terminator
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She officially has more evidence on her side than any other guest in Project Camelot history
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That is true, that actually is true
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There is something in the US Copyright Office
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That is true
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We've never had anybody with actual government records
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So that alone, I think, leads us to have to like, let's treat this with a little bit of
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Let's look into it
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Yeah, maybe she does fucking own the Matrix
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Maybe she fucking owns the Matrix
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Yeah, but you know what, we never know because the media is covering it up
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Well, and Joel Schumacher just terminated the lawsuit
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You know, ever since I won four years ago, they've been covering it up in the media
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You know, I'm on the cover of a couple of magazines
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I've done over 4,000 media interviews, non-stop, since ABC Disney broke my story
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October the 17th, 2003
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And so a lot of people do know about me globally around the world
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But they have covered up the story that I won
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And that's horrible because people, my fans, they call me, they text me, they email me
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They're on all the social networks
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And this is terrible, you know, very terrible for them to cover up this news
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Everyone has the right to know that I won and that I'm the creator
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And that I own the Matrix and Terminator
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Everyone deserves to know that
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Everyone deserves to know it
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Actually, everyone, didn't she say everyone has the right to know it?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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Where was that laid down?
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That was in the Bill of Rights
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It's in there
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Which was actually sent to Disney for 30 million dollars
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Absolutely
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Yeah
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So, so far so good
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I don't know
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Everybody has the right
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Yeah, so this lawsuit that she's finished in 2014
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Yeah
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You might be asking yourself
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Which is a very specific date that she really, really likes
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You might be asking yourself, all right, she won this fucking case
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I bet she's loaded as fuck
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So we find out in this next clip if she won any money in that lawsuit
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What I'd like to know is whether or not you, in your, you're winning your case
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Whether you were awarded any money to kind of keep you going
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Well, I was awarded almost a half a million dollars for attorney fees
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And 3.5 billion dollars in liens on all of their properties
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Because what happened was, I had three CPAs to come in and validate that they owed me 4.7 billion dollars
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These three CPAs are certified public accountants
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Their testimony is worth $25,000 each
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But they get three at $75,000 because of expert witnesses
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And they validated that I was owed 4.7 billion
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Okay, so
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4.7 billion is a lot
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That is JK Rowling money right there
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4.7 billion dollars
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Billion dollars
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And she's got liens
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She owns everything
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She's got liens
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She doesn't just own the Matrix and the Terminator
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She can own any franchise
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Warner Brothers
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She basically owns Warner Brothers
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She could?
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No, she does
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She does
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She has liens on them, man
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Oh, okay
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She put liens on them
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Alright, well there's no way they can afford to pay those back
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So I assume the bank has foreclosed on Warner Brothers
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Absolutely
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And the court has awarded her the property rights
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She now owns Disney and now owns Marvel
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Yeah, oh shit
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All the dominoes have fallen, she owns every movie
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Holy shit, what if the Iron Man shows up in the Matrix 4?
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In the Terminator Matrix Iron Man crossover
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Exactly
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The possibilities are endless
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Oh, non-stop
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So in this next clip she gets into what happened in that case
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Okay
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Now none of the defendants ever showed up in the court
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It was a kind of like a double whammy
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I was getting the four law firms at the same time that had sabotaged my California case
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They were supposed to have been on my side
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But they were paid by Warner Brothers and these other defendants to sabotage me
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And to keep me from getting the evidence
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Listen, all of y'all, it's a sabotage
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She owns that song now too
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The Matrix and Terminator and the FBI and the DOJ's validations of the theft
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But I was able to do that in my second court case in Utah federal court
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From 2007 it lasted seven years to September the 25th, 2014
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I'll say that in that Utah case the defendant, one of them didn't show up because he was dead at the time
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But the
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That actually was one of her mentors too though
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I don't think so
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That guy, honestly when we get down to it, that guy did her dirty
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Oh no
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What? The guy who died actually did fuck her over?
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A little bit, yeah
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Holy shit, this is a complicated tale
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We have two more clips and then I'll explain everything
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I've been trying to pretend that she has a good point
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It's just, it doesn't work
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Why are you doing this to me?
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Because I thought it would be fun as a narrative
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It is fun
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Anyway
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I'm having a great time
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The sense of anticipation is unreal
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At this point all we really know is that the courts have decided that she owns the
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The Matrix and Terminator movies
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And is owed 4.7 billion dollars
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Billion dollars
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And that leads us to this revelation
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All right, but where did you saying that you sort of had a lean on, as you called it I think, on certain individuals?
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Yeah, I got 3.5 billion dollars in liens, like I own all of their properties
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And all I have to do is perform a debtor's exam
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Where they have to come and open up their books
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And show how much money that they have to pay in order for their properties
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You know, to either pay the money or to get their properties back
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Or I can actually, after the debtor's exam, sell the properties
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It's been four years and she is using the present tense
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Are you talking about whose property? Warner Brothers or the individual?
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Yeah, I leaned up Warner Brothers' properties
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I leaned up James Cameron's property
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Gail Ann Hurd, Andy and Larry Wachowski
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In fact, I can send you over the liens after the show
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And you can actually see the property that I leaned up
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Because it was all entered into the courts and the judge did not kick out the liens
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So the liens are good
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Liens are good
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So you're asking a very-
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This has such a sovereign citizen
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Like, the courts didn't stop me
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So now I have liens
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You can introduce anything you want into court
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It's strange that you can do that
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And it's not like the court has a responsibility to be like, this is bullshit
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Yeah
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Cut this out
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But anyway, she has liens on billions of dollars of property
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On the Warner Brothers, the Wachowskis, James Cameron
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Open up your books, James Cameron
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I don't know if you can afford this 3.5 million dollars
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Billion
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Oh, so wait, wait, wait
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It's 3.5 billion in liens
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No, no, no
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She has 4.7 billion
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No, no, no
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That's what she should have been owed
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But she only has liens for 3.5 billion
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She said billion?
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I thought she said million
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No, sir
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Oh
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That's a billion
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I really don't think she's gonna win this
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I really don't think she's gonna take this one down
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So you brought up a really interesting point there
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And you said she's talking about it in the present tense
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She has these liens
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Yes
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Because she's explaining that all she has to do is do a debtor's exam
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Exactly
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All you gotta do
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So you might ask, so why hasn't she done that yet?
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Okay, fair enough
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But how long have you had the liens?
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The liens are good indefinitely
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No, but when did you have the liens?
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I've had the liens since for four years
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All right
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Four years, yeah
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Why have you not acted on that in particular, do you know?
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Good question
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Yeah, because debtor's exams cost a lot of money
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I see
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And so a lot of people don't know that debtor's exams cost money when you do a debtor's exam
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So it costs money to collect
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See, the IRS, when they collect on your liens, the IRS, they got all this money
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They got all this power
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They got all these lawyers working for them
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And this is where I broke
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This is where I said no way
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This can't, this is not true anymore
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Because if she had all these billions of dollars of liens and it was real, anybody would stake her
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Oh yeah
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Anybody would be like, I will pay
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Oh, of course
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I will pay for this debtor's exam, you give me a million on the back end and we're good
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Now you get billions of dollars
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Justice is served, I get a million out of it
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I don't even, yeah, I'm not even gonna be greedy
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I'm not even gonna be like, give me 300 million of your 4.7 billion dollars
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Right, right, right
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Give me like, give me, look, I'm gonna charge more than I normally do hourly
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Yeah
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But hey, 4.7 billion, I'm gonna jump in
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Venture capitalists or seedy individuals would be banging down her door
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Absolutely
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To pay for that fucking exam
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Elon Musk couldn't even afford to be leaned against like this
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And he's gonna, wait, is he doing well or no?
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He's settled, but is he gonna, he's gotta lose, right?
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So this is where things get kind of interesting
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What do you want to know about first?
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Do you want to know about her copyrights that she has
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or do you want to know about these court cases?
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You know what, first thing I want to know
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Is she actually a published author?
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Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah
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I mean, she did write this fourth matrix
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I apologize
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Self-published author
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Is she a self-published author?
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Most likely, yes
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Is she an actual, like, did Simon and Schuster knock down her door saying
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I don't think so
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We gotta have the fourth matrix
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I don't think so
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Okay
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But they could be part of this RICO
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Oh, that's true, they could be
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So I'll just start with the court case
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Okay, so what's important to know here is that if you look into this case
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and with the situation with Sophia Stewart
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you find that there's two court cases
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Yes
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That she's conflating a little bit
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and she's doing that intentionally
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The one in California and the one in Utah
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That's the first case, the California case
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Yes
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In this case, Stewart tried to shoot, she tried to shoot the moon
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She filed a lawsuit against the Wachowski siblings
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Joel Silver, Warner Brothers, and 20th Century Fox
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claiming that the Matrix and Terminator movies were based on her book The Third Eye
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In June 2005, the case was dismissed when Sophia Stewart
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failed to appear at the preliminary hearing for her case
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In the court's ruling, Judge Margaret Morrow of the Central District Court of California
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dismissed the suit saying Stewart and her attorneys had not entered any evidence
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to bolster its key claims or demonstrated any striking similarity
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between her work and the accused director's films
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Yeah, if you're going to sue somebody
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it seems like you really want to show up to court that day
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considering it's like a big deal
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Indeed
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So at that point, her case was closed
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Of course
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The California case is open and shut like that
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Easy
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Now the Utah case starts on August 1st, 2007
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when Sophia Stewart sued a whole bunch of people
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Many of them are named as John Does
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Like anonymous people she's suing in court
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The named individuals were people who were involved in her legal team for her California case
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She sued Michael Stoller, Jonathan Lubil, Dean Weber, and Gary Brown
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The court dismissed the cases against Stoller, Weber, and Brown
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and said that she couldn't sue a bunch of anonymous unnamed people
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which left Jonathan Lubil as the sole defendant in the Utah case
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Well, all those people terminated by not being named
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No, that's, but she was
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Who cares
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She sued for breach of contract
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You can't sue an unnamed person, can you?
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It's a mysterious lawsuit
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What?
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That's why it was thrown out
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How can you sue an unnamed person?
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So she was suing for breach of contract, breach of covenant of good faith
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and fair dealing, malpractice, civil conspiracy, fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, and conversion
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Sounds right
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According to court documents, Sophia was acting as her own attorney in the California case
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when, quote, sometime around July 2004, Jonathan Lubil contacted Ms. Stewart at her home in Utah
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to deliver his services as an attorney with respect to the California action
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Mr. Lubil spoke with Ms. Stewart over the phone from her home in Utah
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and sent a written fee arrangement to Ms. Stewart's home in Utah
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where she executed the agreement and paid a retainer fee
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He is not a real lawyer
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Mr. Lubil held himself out as an expert and stated he would assemble a competent
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legal team to assist with the case, representations upon which Ms. Stewart relied
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The other named men, Brown, Weber, and Stoller were lawyers that he brought in
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and that's why the charges against them were dismissed because they were
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He wasn't the guy
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They were mere accessories of Lubil's inaction
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Yeah
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So Lubil was a horrible lawyer and failed to prosecute Sophia's case in a competent manner
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It kind of wouldn't have mattered in the end because she was never going to win that case
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No, of course not
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But he was clearly acting poorly as an attorney and as a result of her losing the California case,
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Sophia was ordered to pay the California defendant's attorney's fees and legal costs
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Ooh, of course
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If you can imagine, that was a huge bill
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Yeah
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She's suing Warner Brothers, the Wachowski siblings,
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Joel Silver, 20th Century Fox
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That is a steep fucking bill
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They got some serious lawyer's fee racked up
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So because of Lubil being a terrible attorney in that case and getting it thrown out with
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prejudice, she ended up being charged the opposite side's legal fees
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She got charged $4.7 billion
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In the Utah trial, the court did find that Lubil, though at this point deceased,
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was still guilty of having wronged Sophia and they found, quote,
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Ms. Stewart's malpractice claims, breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty, and negligence
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entitled her to damages stemming from the money she paid under the contract
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and the attorney's fees and costs awarded against her in the California action and lost damages,
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if any, based on the underlying California copyright case
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If any is a super important piece of words there
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Okay, so had she and her lawyers shown up
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Right, she would have still lost the case
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Had they won the case
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Or
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Well, that's what this
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Were she to sue again and found to be entitled to damages, then she would be owed those, right?
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Is that what we're saying?
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Well, that would be in a whole other case
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The thing, okay, so if you read that, what it's saying is that she's entitled to the
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money that she paid him as a lawyer Yes
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The lost amount that she had because of the attorney's fees that she was charged
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because of the resolution of the case Yeah
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And then lost damages, if any, based on the underlying California copyright case
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Which were zero So she would be owed
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that $4.7 billion, but the if any is in there and that's important
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And the if any is zero
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Well, yeah, so Sophia won damages in the amount of $305,930.62
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Which is the amount she was sentenced to pay for the attorney's fees in the California case
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Right
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This isn't a win as much as it is a shifting of blame off her and onto Lubel
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Right
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This lawyer who did her dirty
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Interestingly, the only place liens come up in this court document are in relation to how
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the defendants in the California case had liens on her in three states prior to the judgment
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Which were then released after this verdict
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Of course
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So that's probably what she's talking about there
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As for this case affirming that she owns the matrix
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Quote, Ms. Stewart seeks approximately $15 billion in damages
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In this case
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Stemming from her
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$15 billion?
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Yep
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It's in the court documents
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She shot the moon so hard the game of hearts should sue her
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This is like I'm reading straight from the court documents
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Yeah
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So she was seeking $15 billion in damages in the case stemming from her attorney's failures
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in the California copyright case
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Ms. Stewart submitted documents and presented expert witness testimony to support this award
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One of these documents consists of a response from a Time Warner Entertainment Company lawyer
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to a patented trademark office action
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The exhibit also includes IMDB printouts with gross profit figures and budget estimates
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for various terminator movies
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Well I'm glad she printed it out
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Lastly, Ms. Stewart includes a message from an unattributed email address stating sales
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figures for various matrix movies and spin-offs estimating a quote total of over $2.3 billion
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Ms. Stewart also elicited testimony from witnesses Art Tashima, a friend and CPA
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Katherine Katie Riney, a friend and licensed financial representative
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Right
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And Jeffrey Castellone, an investment professional
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In addition to her own testimony
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The court finds Ms. Stewart may not recover damages on this basis
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Thus, even assuming the merits of the underlying claim,
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the California defendants would have been able to establish deductible expenses and
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the profit not attributable to Ms. Stewart's protected works
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Without question, the California defendants incurred deductible expenses in making the
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Terminator and Matrix movies
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The gross revenue numbers Ms. Stewart provides therefore do not constitute a proper measure
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of damages in the case as she would not have recovered that much even if her lawyers had
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not committed malpractice
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Yeah, of course
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The court therefore recommends the district court award Ms. Stewart nothing
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In the order adopting and
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So that's clear, it's nothing
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The answer is zero
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Zero
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Zero out of $15 billion
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Yes
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Yes
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In the order adopting this report and its recommendations
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they lay out that she's entitled to just over $300,000 in damages for her lawyer's malfeasance
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But the document ends by pointing out that
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Ms. Stewart has objected to this damages amount and asserts that she's entitled to damages
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connected to the profits of the Terminator and Matrix movie trilogies
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For reasons stated in the report and recommendations, her objection is overruled
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So, those are the two cases that she has
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And all these documents she has up on her website that actually disprove her own claims
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I don't know why she has these
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That's a weird thing to do
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Don't know why
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That's a weird thing to do
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Yeah, I found them on her website and in other sources
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So like I can say that they're not like doctored or anything
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I think she's doing the Apple terms and conditions gambit where it's like
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I'm going to put these up here, nobody's actually going to read this shit
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So I'm just going to claim it says what I wanted to say
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because nobody's actually going to read this shit
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Yeah
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So the other thing is she does have a bunch of copyrights
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She has filed a bunch of certificates of copyright
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that she has up on her website truthaboutmatrix.com
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She's posted some screenshots of these certificates of registration with the US copyright office
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that she asserts are proof that she won her court case
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But this is absurd
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The first problem is that these copyrights are largely for things that are not contested
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For instance, she placed a copyright in 2013 for a screenplay titled
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Terminator 5 The Hologram Clones
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I love it
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This is not proof that she created Terminator
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nor is it even proof that she wrote a screenplay called Terminator 5 The Hologram Clones
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Well, she posted the screenplay up, I assume
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No, I couldn't find that
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Oh, she didn't post the screenplay?
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Doesn't want to get that stolen
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Oh, that's a good point
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Copyrights and patents are an area of law where fraud is rampant
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If I have an idea for something, I could get a patent for it
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without ever making it
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Yeah, there was the patent troll literally for podcasts
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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A couple years back
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And then the same thing with copyrights
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If I have a manuscript that I'm claiming to have written
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I can get it copyrighted
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Yeah
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But all that is is copywriting that specific thing
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It seems kind of important to prove that it was stolen
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So one thing that threw me for a huge loop
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is that one of the things that Sophia has a certificate of copyright for is the Animatrix
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Her certificate is from 2013
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Though the Animatrix shorts were released in 2003
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I was going to say, didn't the Animatrix came between the first movie and the second movie?
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Right
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And it explains some of the lingering plot details
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that the second movie just kind of didn't even bother with
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I thought this was really strange and clearly this wouldn't fly
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The producers of the Animatrix would have a copyright on their works
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But then I noticed that this copyright was specifically for an artwork
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Whereas the rest of the copyrights she claimed to have were for screenplays and scripts
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She most likely got a copyright for a work of art she made called the Animatrix
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That doesn't violate the existing copyright that the producers have for the film's Animatrix
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As they would be in a separate category of copyrights
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Right
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Similarly she has a certificate of copyright for Enter the Matrix
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Right
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But it's for a work described as text
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Enter the Matrix is a video game
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So they would have a completely different copyright over that existing property
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Of course
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So she has these things that are
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What it appears to me is that Sophia is doing
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What she's doing is filling, filing totally fair copyrights to the works that she's created
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Like Terminator 5 the hologram clothes
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Right
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Or the fourth Matrix book that she's written
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Then asserting copyright claims to existing names of intellectual properties under different categories
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Knowing that the appearance of having a copyright with the name Animatrix
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Will trick most people into thinking that she did in fact win her court case
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This theory is sort of elevated by her writing in all caps on her website
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Quote, Sophia Stewart has won the copyrights to the Matrix and Terminator movie franchises
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The government has settled the matter
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The Enter the Matrix copyright proves that the trademark with the same name is owned by Sophia Stewart
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Hmm
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It's all a shell game
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Wow
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All this is kind of moot though because according to the government copyright office
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Quote, copyright does not protect ideas, concepts, systems, or methods of doing something
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You may express your ideas in writing or drawings and claim copyright to your description
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But be aware that copyright will not protect the idea itself as revealed in your written or artistic work
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Copyrights are only for specific works that a person has created
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Not for vague ideas expressed in one piece of writing that might be mirrored in another
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So she's also saying that she owns the Bible
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I mean she'd have to be to some extent
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Yeah
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She's she's saying that she owns the hero's journey as a concept
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I mean it's that it's that brash
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Yeah all right I like it I like it I again the she has plated balls with chrome
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There's no doubt
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Yeah
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It's pretty wild
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Yeah
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And this interview gets wilder
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Okay
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So you might be asking yourself why did you do all this stuff in like 2000s
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I'm asking myself a lot of questions
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Terminator came out in 1984 why didn't she know that her work was ripped off back then
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It seems like she would automatically know since it was such a huge hit
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Do you know about the Matrix movies?
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When did you realize that your your stuff was stolen?
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In other words what was the process by which it was stolen?
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Yeah I want people to realize there was never any battle or any fight or any war going on
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When I went I didn't go to the movies and uh 84 because I was pregnant and I was married
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Okay
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So I was not at that time
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Divorce him
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Any movies but in March 31st 1999 I go and I see the Matrix and I recognize my work on the screen
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and me being a paralegal as I started to be an attorney and a doctor I called up one of
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brother's legal department plus I come from a military law enforcement family
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There it is
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So I know the law also
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That doesn't make sense
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I called them up and they offered me five million dollars for the copyrights
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but the copyrights are worth more than that because I was doing taxes when I was 11 years old
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like H&R Block I was getting paid by long people to do their taxes because they didn't know
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understand how to do taxes just why H&R Block was born but I was already an entrepreneur
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and doing also as a teenager payroll I was creating grown people's checks paychecks
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and I scored a 98 on the IRS exam which is nothing but pure math so they wanted
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me to come and work for them so I understood numbers that's why you see in the Matrix
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the binary code for one and zero matrix and terminates quantum physics calculus
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ancient sacred geometry
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Oh that's why
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Why are we throwing in ancient sacred geometry?
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Why not? That answer was rambling enough
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We don't need to do that
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No you got to throw it in
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Oh you got to throw it in
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Wait did she just did she just say that the reason that she knows she owns the Matrix
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is because they used binary?
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No no no it's because she was an accountant
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At 11?
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Yeah doing people's taxes
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Isn't that illegal? That's child labor
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A lot of that answer I don't think is I think it's just nothing I think it's kind of just
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spaghetti on the wall
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It is a lot
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Um I think when you boil it down it's okay I was pregnant and I was married to a guy who
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didn't want me watching movies in 1984 and so
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Is he dead or did they divorce?
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She says in the past tense so I assume something happened
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Okay
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But now she's uh 99 you know comes around she's going to movies now
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Finally allowed to see movies
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Right her kids her kids are 15 at that point
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Yeah yeah yeah I think women got the vote shortly after that too I think isn't that how that worked
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Burn their bras and got three movie tickets
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Yeah yeah first thing you do get the ability to watch movies
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Right
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Then you get the right to vote
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So she goes and sees the Matrix and she's like uh gall darn it I've been ripped off
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Of course I wrote six pages
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So then she calls a lawyer and the lawyer's like here's five million dollars
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It seems a little bit preemptive
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Yeah I don't think that happened at all
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So in this next clip she just talks about how her work is copyrighted
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We already talked about that a little bit so I'm going to skip it
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Um because Carrie asks her like okay she was trying to get to that in this clip
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Where she was saying um how did you know you got ripped off what was the process
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And uh so now she tries to understand like how did this start
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In other words how did they get your work where was your work did you submit because you
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It kind of sounds like you didn't submit it to a film company
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It does kind of sound like that
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At the minute I was like sent it over to 20th century Fox looking for George Lucas
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Because when I saw Star Wars and I didn't know that Star Wars
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You weren't allowed to see movies back then
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I only saw that George Lucas was the director and I wanted him to direct my work
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Because I wanted him to set my work to Lucas
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Because I saw on film credit that he was at 20th century Fox
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All right
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So I sent my scripted book to him at 20th century Fox
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And Susan Mezbeck who was vice president of creative affairs
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She got hold of the script in the book and saw how valuable it was commercially
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And she just stole the route right and brought in Gail Ann Hurd and Cameron
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And all these people and David Madden and value Ray
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Okay now they're passing it around
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Right I appreciate that but your name was on it your copyright was on it
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Did you have any how did you get it submitted over at Fox you know in those days
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Back in 1981 there were no agents to receive anything
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People were just receiving all kinds of stuff back in the day in 1980 and 81
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That's pretty ludicrous
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Wait in 80 and 81 every studio had just like a hey unsolicited scripts send them on over
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Yeah absolutely
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And this is this is cockamamie because she in other places has claimed that the Wachowskis
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Posted that they wanted uh like submissions for science fiction stuff
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And that she sent her work into them
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Posted where?
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I don't know
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What in the classified ads no there was no craigslist in 81
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Something like that who gives a shit
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What
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Who gives a shit
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If they don't and look if you don't have agents you definitely don't have the internet
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And you did have agents who's going all the way back to the fucking 50
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But I'm just saying that like that story is even different than the main story that she tells
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Yeah
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Of the Wachowskis getting uh the text and that's where it uh
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Yeah she sent it to 20th Century Fox because she was hoping George Lucas
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Famed director
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The only George Lucas
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First one
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Who directed uh what like three movies
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But he only directed the first Star Wars right
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Yeah he directed the first Star Wars
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And that was in 77
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Yeah and then he did
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Her copyright isn't until 1981 or 1983
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Right
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So four years after Star Wars
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She got it she had it look she hold on
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I don't know why she didn't reference American Graffiti because that's probably his best
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Directorial work
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When did uh Empire Strikes Back come out?
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Uh 76?
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No
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No
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It was 80 something
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I'm pretty sure it was in the 80s
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No
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Regardless I think
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I know it was before agents were around
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Absolutely no agents
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No agents
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Um that's why Harrison Ford is broke
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All this is a little tough it's a little tough to swallow
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It's a little tough
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There's red flags pretty much everywhere
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There's a few
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Um so I'll just say it
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Dude genuinely at the start of this you had me kind of convinced that there may have been
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Like some sort of case for her where it's like
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Oh she did put together all of these ideas maybe they were stolen
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Well it's one of those interesting things that uh if you go uh to her website truthaboutmatrix.com
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There's
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Which is the 9-11 blogger of Truth About Matrix
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It might as well be
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There's an entire section that she has of her copyrights
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And it's interesting because here she has her copyright for the Matrix 4
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Um and the date of it is July 20th 2010
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Is it just Matrix 4 she doesn't have a subtitle?
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The Evolution Cracking the Genetic Codes
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That's the subtitle of Matrix 4?
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Yep
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Oh boy I don't want her helming the Matrix 4
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Also the nature of the work
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Nor do I want George Lucas anywhere near the Matrix 4
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The nature of the work is listed as movie treatment synopsis
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4D movie attraction and hologram clones
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4D hologram clones
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Listed as
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In the 4D movie
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Listed as
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I'm back in
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New Machines
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Just just new machines
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Copyright on the hologram clones which is a new machine
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This could be another copyright troll here
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Alright
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But the interesting thing here is that was from 2010
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But she claims that she wrote it in 2000
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Right
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Which is fine but legally there's no proof of that until this 2010 date
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You gotta mail it to yourself
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And it's the same thing with this stuff like Enter the Matrix
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This text that she has copyrighted is from 2015
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But she claims the date of completion was 1981
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Huh
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That's just based on her own reporting in this
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Basically an affidavit of copyright
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Well she was a famously published author in 1981
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So I assume everybody can trust that she was writing so many fucking manuscripts and
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And screenplays that there's just no way that you couldn't kind of accept
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That there's a benefit of the doubt there right
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I don't think so
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I just don't
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Sorry
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I don't believe any of this
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But it's interesting because on a recent episode that we didn't go over
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The one where Kerry was talking about how like
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Hey you know a lot of my people have been brainwashed
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A lot of my sources have been brainwashed
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Oh yeah
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And like just because they lie doesn't mean they're liars that sort of thing
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Another thing that she was really trying to stress is that like
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Just because I have someone on doesn't mean I agree with them
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Sometimes I'm trying to get to the bottom of stuff
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Because I'm a journalist I'm an investigator
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Well double well
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So because she's like you know Eddie Page can come on
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And we can have a conversation that doesn't mean I believe him
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She fucking believes him
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Oh of course
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But that's why I just want to play this next clip to show that she's not just investigating
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She 100% believes Sofia
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No it's kind of funny you know it's
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A lot of people have had their stuff stolen okay
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But yours is one of the most outrageous sort of flagrant cases I think
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Okay so you believe this is the most flagrant case
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Flagrant copyright violation
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Mm-hmm
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She is oh well how could it not be
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It would be the single largest court case in history
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If the Utah court were to award her 3.5 billion dollars
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I mean it would be crazy
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I'm not gonna go out on a limb here because
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The cloud atlas never would have been made
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All I'm saying is I would guess they would try and appeal that
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Oh yeah
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They wouldn't just lose the case and be like
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Bap 3.5 billion
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Oh no we got liens
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At least we get to keep the other 11.5 billion that she wanted
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Well the other thing too to recognize and this is something that comes up in that court case
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Is that like at the end of the day even though the matrix is a massively successful franchise
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That doesn't mean that it made a lot of money
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It doesn't necessarily mean because of all the money that went into it
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Right
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There is still a decent chance that they barely broke even
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No they they made a lot of money
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Well I don't know all the specifics but you always assume that like
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Oh you made 80 million at the box office
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You might have paid 80 million to make a movie
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No no for sure but the matrix money was big money
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But also you got to consider too that a lot of the times when people talk about budget stuff
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Like the budget figures that are included on like IMDB and stuff like that
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Often don't include advertising budget
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Right
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They often don't include a lot of extra expenses that are on there
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Right
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I'm not saying that necessarily these movies didn't make money
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But the figures that you assume about them the 15 billion and stuff like that
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Yeah
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Is probably grossly exaggerated
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Oh of course
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Well the matrix was a fairly low budget and it had very little advertising behind it
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Which is why everybody was surprised that it became such a huge hit
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So at the very least the first matrix has been wildly popular
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Yeah
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And then you got to figure like yeah I know you got to have the advertising costs in there
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But you got to figure merchandising you got to figure all this other stuff
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But a lot of that also has expenses that go along with it
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And a lot of the merchandising stuff ends up making money for like Tyco the toy companies
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That's true that's true
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So there's a lot of hands in that pot that aren't necessarily all going to the Wachowskis
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Yeah
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Or Warner Brothers
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Well what they are doing is going to Sophia is what they are doing
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And hell yeah
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The reality of filmmaking and all this stuff is a lot more complicated and less enticing
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Than people like Sophia want to make it appear
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Right
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Now the other thing you got to consider is that Sophia Stewart is far from the only person to sue
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Warner Brothers and Joel Silver claiming that they stole the idea of the matrix from them
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There's a certain fanaticism that's inspired by movies like the matrix
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And a lot of people want to take ownership for having created it
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One such fellow litigant was a guy named Thomas Althouse who claimed that his screenplay
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The Immortals had 119 similarities with the matrix
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119?
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Yeah man that's a lot
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That's not even they they there weren't even 119 pages in the matrix
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Yeah probably not a lot of just repeating flip
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Yeah
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Flip jump
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So this case went to court and the judge ruled against him which seems fair given
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This plot synopsis for The Immortals quote
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Althouse's film follows a CIA agent who takes a drug that makes him immortal
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Jim Reese finds himself in the year 2235
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Case dismissed excuse me uh case dismissed sir
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Jim Reese finds himself in the year 2235 AD battling to
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wreck the plot of Adolf Hitler's son to wipe out all non-immortals
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I find in favor of the defendant uh please excuse excuse this sir
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I would like you to pay the defendant's court cost
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Frankly I want you to pay the cost of me being here to death
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Substantively different plot than the matrix
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Althouse's main argument was that the Christ-like nature of Neo
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was similar to the Christ-like uh part of his main character
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It's similar to the Christ-like nature of Christ which is the older thing
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To which Judge Klausner said quote
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Allusions to Christianity and literature date back hundreds of years and are not generally protectable
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Interestingly Althouse has a very similar backstory to Stewart in that they both claim
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that they submitted their scripts to Warner Brothers at which point
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Joel Silver stole it and passed it on to the Wachowski siblings
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That's fucking Joel Silver man
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This makes absolutely no sense because before the Matrix
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the Wachowskis were not the sort of folks that
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movie companies would be committing crimes to bolster
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Before the Matrix the only two movies they'd made were the forgettable movie
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Assassins which boasts a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes
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which the Wachowskis unsuccessfully tried to take their name off of
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Claiming the co-writer Brian Hagelund had essentially written out all of their
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contributions to the movie and Bound the sexy noir crime film starring
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Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon that failed to make enough movie at the box office to
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even cover the film's modest 4.5 million dollar budget
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I want to see that I love Jennifer Tilly she's great
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She's great
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Have you ever seen The Wrong Man with
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Oh no no no it's got Dave Foley in it and Jennifer Tilly
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I don't care
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It is legitimately one of the funnier movies you'll ever see in your life
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The Wachowskis showed promise but their first two outings did not produce the sort of response
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where a studio would go out of their way to set them up to succeed
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They weren't like somebody they weren't a team that was like
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Oh my god we've gotta we gotta fucking break the law for them
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It's absolutely ludicrous to assume that there would be this grand conspiracy in order to get
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them this intellectual property that had been stolen based on the fact that their first two
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movies didn't even really break even Frankly and not to be insulting I still don't think
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they're a team that a studio would go out on a limb legally and break a crime for
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Well I mean crime sure
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Or commit a crime for it but
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Break a crime?
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Cloud Atlas is great
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All right
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So um now the interview takes a bit of a turn
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Sophia is about to make a claim that I do not believe
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The FBI have told me that when they come in they're going to arrest all of these people because
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this was theft of the copyrights they had to come in at some at some point it'll be some
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kind of task force because they got special task force to come in and do this type of work
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especially when it's a conflict of interest they got these special task forces that they can send
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in uh they'll make these arrests and then you would only get restitution they told me because
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they stole copyrighted work it's a RICO it's a RICO offense
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That's really not what it is
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Nope it's not and the FBI is not going to arrest the Wachowskis
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What what what would the task force look like like you got a SWAT team right everybody knows
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they are highly militarized probably too militarized
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Special weapons and tactics
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Yeah yeah not good right so your task force though for a uh fake RICO situation
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what do they look like
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I don't know like just suits man
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Just suits?
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Just suits
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Just suits
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It's a normal FBI
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No no you got to come in casual
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Oh
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You got to come in you got to come in like
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Like it's Friday in the office
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Like oh you got to come in like hey we're a bunch of tourists we just want to see
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Universal Studios and then BAM
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You're thinking of Rico Suave you're thinking of unbuttoned uh shirts
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That's exactly what I'm thinking of
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And a bandana
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That is the real crime here
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Yeah
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Rico Suave
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So now we find out something that I think we all probably should have assumed about Kerry long ago
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Because you know I worked in Hollywood right you know I was an independent producer
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I actually wrote screenplays I tried to shop them around
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How did it go?
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I met a lot of these players you talk about
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So as is the case with all of these people that we end up talking about
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They all have failed entertainment history
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It's weird it's really weird
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Kerry has a history in trying to sell films
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Why didn't Charles Manson just sue the Beach Boys
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Why not
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That would make more sense than well it wouldn't make as much sense you would lose
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Whereas with the cult
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He has a better case than Sophia Stewart
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That's actually true
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Yeah so anyway Kerry was trying to break into Hollywood
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Obviously didn't work out because we're where we are now
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Yeah
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Uh but here here's what she wants you to know about her time in Hollywood
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I worked in you know pretty deep in many years and
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Undercover
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But I never they never would let me in but but I was quite psychic and I tapped into
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And heard a lot of gossip and whatnot so I know a lot of the stories back channel
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What
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I can tell you that uh that it that what went on with your screenplay with your book and your
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Your writings some but some people knew
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That's dangerous
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That's a dangerous line to be taking with someone who is clearly a little delusional
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As Sophia Stewart clearly is
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You know if she's willing to post these
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Trans like these court documents on her site that prove that she's wrong
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Right
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There's an element of delusion into what she's putting out into the world
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Oh absolutely
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And so now Kerry's saying that I worked in Hollywood I was in deep
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Not really in that deep but I was psychic and I heard gossip
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Yeah I really don't like that part
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That part is the part that bothers me
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What the psychic part or the gossip part?
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No the
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Because they're both bad
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One the gossip why do you gossip?
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I heard gossip
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Say things to my face
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I heard gossip
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Second if you are gonna gossip
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Definitely don't gossip about a psychic person who can fucking remote view you while you're doing it
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She's saying that she knows that the stuff that Sophia is saying are true
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Because she's psychic which I just throw out whole cloth
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I just say no thank you
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And then the other part the gossip part I'm like oh that sounds more real
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Yeah
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That's what you're basing this on
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No and it sounds
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Gossip
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It sounds less like you were psychic and more like somebody was like
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Okay I'm gonna be honest with you Kerry
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It's kind of not gonna happen for you
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I saw something on TMZ
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Yeah
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Yeah so okay
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Now now here's the thing right
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This is the thing
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This is not far-fetched like many ideas are stolen maybe not entirely like
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Everybody sends in uh scripts and all that not everybody retains the rights to them
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Maybe somebody has an idea somebody else writes a better script based off that idea
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And I mean think about think about our friends uh people who do commercial auditions right
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Sometimes you'll do a commercial audition and you'll have a great performance and they'll be
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like yeah but we don't want you and what winds up happening is the guy they do choose or the person
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they do choose uh it winds up doing an imitation of the performance that they really like I get it
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I get it it's tough but Sophia
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I'd like to now read you some of her treatment for this
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Oh god no
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This is in the court documents
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She well hold on if there's one thing I know
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Because you brought it here
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If there's one thing I know it's that she is a creative genius
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This is uh I'm just gonna quote
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And a prodigy
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The proposed science fiction film deals with earth during the year 2110 AD
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By that time planet earth had experienced horrible nuclear wars
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and a spiritual evolution was underway
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Doing great
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Also man was finally moving from the unconscious to conscious stages of spiritual development
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That seems like the reverse of what the matrix is but fine
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Thus it seemed apparent that the spirituality would soon prevail over
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technocracy and earth would have a lasting quote unquote peace
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Unfortunately members of earth's largest banking institutions and corporations
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secretly banded together in a final effort to maintain
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the object worship of money as a permanent way of life
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By controlling the mass media the secret organization with the code name of Rothfellers
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Creative genius Rothfellers
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That's a definition of clunky right there
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So the Rothfellers
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Don't even say it anymore
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I can't even hear you say those words anymore
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The Rothfellers convinced
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Why are you saying it again?
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So they convinced people on earth to rebuild their weapon systems
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as a means to provide money and jobs for everyone
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War began again even before the new weapon systems were finished
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and most of the population abandoned the pursuit of spirituality and died in nuclear battles
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One of the major research and weapon system development organizations on earth
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was headed by the philosopher scientist Ikhan
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His organization was instrumental in building the space star
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a huge vehicle shaped like a pyramid designed for interplanetary warfare and space travel
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That actually sounds fun
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Additionally the space star was supposed to be the flagship of earth's space fleet
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and it contained the most secret and highly advanced devices known at the time
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The Rothfellers commanded Ikhan to use the space star as a vehicle for war
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against people who resisted their tyranny
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Ikhan accepted the assignment with some reluctance
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Just before beginning the assigned mission
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Ikhan personally experienced a spiritual happening that began to manifest in the form of an eye
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After the happening he set it aside as a simple hallucination
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and continued his organizational tasks
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This doesn't sound anything like the Matrix
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That does not sound anything like the Matrix
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Doesn't sound like anything
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It does not
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It sounds interesting-ish
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I said ish
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Anyway
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I want to read the Matrix 4 still
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I know that's that's terrible
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But you know what that's her earlier work Dan
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Look we can't all come out the gate throwing throwing haymakers
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Even if you are a prodigy
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Queen
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Which literally means you come out the gate throwing haymakers
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Quote
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Queen Jon-A is gorgeous and possesses the unique capability
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of changing the color of her skin to reflect her inner emotions
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She's a mood ring
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She's a mood ring
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Unfortunately for Queen Jon-A she comes into intimate contact
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with Ikhan's growing spirituality that penetrates her machine conditioned consciousness
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Whoa the intimate contact that penetrates Dan
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Sexy
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She falls in love with Ikhan
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Oh okay so yeah of course
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At the last minute Jon-A helps Ikhan and his people escape from Sore
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Avoiding the oncoming war fleet from Earth
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Ikhan escapes but the Rothfeller soldiers capture and hold Jon-A as hostage for her deceit
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Do you know what's really interesting?
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Ikhan moves to the planet Cove 3
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She has a better case against uh who's the guy who did Fifth Element?
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I don't remember
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Oh god why can't I remember
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Yeah I know
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Luc Besson
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She has a better case against Luc Besson
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Yeah there's there's an argument to be made there
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I'm scanning through this and I don't think anything uh
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No nothing reminds me of the Matrix so far
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So there's a there's a bit of a fight between them and then quote
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Was it Kung Fu fight?
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The followers of Ikhan board the Space Star and fight their way into Earth combat or Earth orbit
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Kung Fu
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They descend to Earth amid cheers of the multitudes now affected by powers of the
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Third Eye within Ikhan
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Wait they he he did them all?
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The Rothfellers are defeated and peace is proclaimed so that's the exact opposite
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That's really nothing like the Matrix
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I don't see any similarities in this thing except for maybe there's a ship
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I mean there's a ship in the Matrix too the Nebuchadnezzar and then maybe
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Yeah but that's not a spaceship
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And you could you could make sort of a flimsy argument that uh you know
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It's it's spiritual in nature like the uh the stuff in the Matrix
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Like what Morpheus is trying to impart is spiritual in nature when it's really not
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It's more it's more of a user manual kind of
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So it's not really a spiritual awakening that Neo goes through
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It might be presented as such and if you want to interpret it that way you can but it's really not
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No
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It's anything but
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Pretty much
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It's very concrete
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Yeah it's I mean it's in fact it's rooted in as as though that spiritualism itself is
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a function of reality as opposed to
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Which is a which is a function of the trick
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Yeah exactly
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Yeah I don't know man uh her her screenplay and her pitch don't sound anything similar to this
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No those that's not good that's not good
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But she's mad at some judges Sophia is and uh she
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Well let's be honest we all are mad at some judges
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That's fair but that's that's just life
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But in this next clip she might slander one
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And I went in there by the grace of God and I did pray to God and he told me what to write
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And I wrote that she and I didn't know she was uh she had
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Prostituted her way to becoming a judge
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Wait what?
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Until a attorney named Larry Long called me up with a witness on the phone and he was laughing
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And he was reading the legal briefs and he asked me how did you know I said what
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He said how did you know she was the chief prosecutor because she fucked my Johnson
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She sucked her way to the top I told him God told me and I wrote it in a legal brief
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Whoa wait wait wait wait wait that's crazy
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She wrote a legal brief saying my judge is a whore
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She sucked her way to the top
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That is not good
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With no evidence God just told her that was the guy oh boy
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See now here's the other thing I'm starting to think that she's told her way to the top
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She stole the copyright from God and God it should be awarded damages
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Interesting
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That's that's my position here
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I feel like there's no way to mead that out in court
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Also you really shouldn't put that in your court briefs
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No
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I'm I'm I'm look I don't know a lot about judges but I'm gonna guess
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They are immediately going to be far more hostile to your case
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It might prejudice the court against you
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Where are you to say by the way no matter what you do I invalidate this judgment
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Because you blew a lot of guys to get here
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And I have no evidence of that
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I would like to put into court my prayers
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A voice I have decided is God told me you suck a lot of dick
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It's real it's also very strange that God told me the thing that I thought before I asked God
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It's super weird
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It's so weird how me and God are often in agreement when I'm getting petty as hell
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Really really on the same page here
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Yeah
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I think it's probably because I'm also a prophet
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Yeah so um I think at this point
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Don't you remember when Elisha was like dude shut it too many dicks getting sucked in my way
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I think that we're pretty much done with her matrix talk at this point and terminator talk
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I think we've kind of dealt with that for the most part
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How so
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Uh I'm not gonna say that I could be a lawyer and like walk through this case in an actual court
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But for a podcast I think I've pretty well laid out what the deal is
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But what's interesting is that the episode doesn't it doesn't end
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Like that seems like it's where it should end
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That's the whole that's her credits that's why she's there
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She and Kerry keep talking and the interesting thing is as they talk less about uh the matrix
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stuff it becomes more clear why I don't believe her about the matrix stuff
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Because she starts to get real wacky
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Is it because she tries to describe the plot of the matrix and gets it wrong
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No that would be amazing though
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That would be amazing
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I would love that
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Oh that would be so good
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No but uh here is where uh this is where I was like uh oh
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The Illuminati told me in the year 2006 in the mason the Illuminati pulled me up
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and the rock child and Leo Sagami a big fans of mine and the matrix and terminator
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and they told me that fucking god I would have a second lawsuit and I would win that lawsuit
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and I would play a major role in world events so they pretty much told me what was getting
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ready to go down in the year 2006 before I even initiated a second lawsuit
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All right very interesting
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They know they already know what's going to happen I'm telling you the Illuminati's
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they know what's written in prophecy they know what's going to happen and everything and so
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what I'm trying to say to you is that they did everything in their power to put Hillary in there
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because they were going to keep everything the same with Hillary and what it was going to be
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business as usual and they were going to get them keep getting away with everything but they knew
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that Trump Trump it was part Trump was part of the wow revelation his name is like a trumpet
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this is off the fucking rails what when did we get here turns out the creator of the matrix is
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into Trump so as she put it right the Illuminati called me up bring bring hello Illuminati
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Illuminati oh Illuminati I've been expecting your call now you're gonna make another lawsuit and
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then you're gonna play a big role in the I was I was I was praying to god about this horror who
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is pissed off at me in the store right and it turns out she sucked her way to the grocery aisle
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right she sucked her way to stocking night shift just just to be clear I am saying this from her
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point of view not sex worker not horror I'm just just trying to be right I'm not trying to be that
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right I'm not trying to be that guy you're fine we're in a place where I you just don't need to
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be that guy you don't need to be that guy fine you're in the character of Sophia that's okay
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hold on let me safe harbor let me get really into the character of Sophia you better turn around
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uh okay all right it's important for an impression uh all right hold on let me start with the the
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classic uh does anybody here like impressions pause for the audience to say they do there you
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go all right turn around all right turn back I for real wrote the matrix right god I just
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heard him say I did better sue this shit god damn it you told me I was not going to win the first
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lawsuit I don't even know why I filed that wasn't them that was the Illuminati that wasn't God no
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the Illuminati told her she was going to win the second lawsuit right right but god obviously had
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to have told her that she was going to lose the first lawsuit I would assume he would have maybe
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maybe maybe he didn't want to break that news that's hard give someone bad news that is tough
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tough god doesn't really give the news so much as he legit just like does stuff oh we got to work
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out our relationship with god god doesn't like to be the bearer of that where does trump come into
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this well it's because the Illuminati wanted Hillary to get him because then they can keep
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doing their dirt has everything to do with her lawsuit I told you this is where things get off
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the rails she starts bringing up the Illuminati telling her the future see now somehow I'm fine
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with that part well it's more project camelot exactly I don't like it dovetailing into and
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that's why trump is great right that is that is super weird but that is where all these people
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are because con men understand other con men yeah that's true that's why they like there's
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a familiarity with trump that a lot of these like I've started to think about why trump is appealing
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across so many weird disparate bases yeah and it's really interesting because with Alex I think it's
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like you know his business model largely relies on the deregulation of the supplement industry
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right sort of thing right so if you want to take not anymore it doesn't well sure but at the time
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it did if you want to take it from that level if you want to look at it on a crass materialistic
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level you could make the argument that he sided with trump because he realized there was a chance
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that if democrats got in power again that there would be trends towards putting restrictions on
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a lot of the things that he sells right it would make his empire crumble this this billion dollar
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unregulated industry of selling snake oil right maybe they might regulate it sure that's a
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possibility or you could look at it from the angle of like it's very clear that trump has been a white
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supremacist forever and that resonates with Alex right and he knows that he's not going to get rid
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of regulations on guns there's a hundred reasons why Alex would join up so for him it's kind of a
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murkier territory but then you start to look at people like Carrie Cassidy and why would she
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support trump yeah and because he's crazy you know he's a conspiratorial weirdo right and she
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believes him when he says I'm going to release all the JFK information he's fucking not and he's
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never going to do that but he keeps saying god but that'd be fun if he did he keeps saying he's
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going to do that and that gets people like Carrie Cassidy who believe that there's some sort of
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nefarious thing yeah going on on the hook and then trump talks about the deep state that resonates
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with Carrie Cassidy and these paranoid weirdos right of course they're on board right Jim Baker
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his sort of milieu that whole world the evangelical world on one level they don't realize that the
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reason that they're being led to support trump is because people like Jim Baker and a lot of people
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who make money off religion realize that trump is going to and has moved to ease the rules right
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for churches to make money right profits right right the con men know that the con man is not
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going to hinder their con and in fact will probably enhance their right so you have a bunch
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of diverse con people and it's like there's nothing really bringing all of them together
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like because Carrie largely doesn't seem hyper conservative she doesn't seem like someone I mean
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she is she has some bigotry in her certainly yeah but she doesn't seem like somebody who's like
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political in that way right so no no she's not on the the we need health care trip because the
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trump administration is going to finally release the hologram beds that heal everybody right
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but yeah Randy Kramer's med beds yeah yeah so all of the all this comes down to like I think
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I think that everybody's being tricked in different ways but they're doing it to themselves
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yeah or they're doing it's being done to them by the tastemakers and the voice uh people like Alex
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like Jim Baker like Jim Baker's leading fucking Fox News Jim Baker's leading a lot of people
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astray insinuating that trump is going to be a blessing for Christians because he knows that
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his business is protected by trump being in office right right there's not going to be any kind of sec
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uh IRS investigation of Jim Baker's weird compound yeah as long as trump's in office yeah so and Alex
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same thing it it's weird to me because we always want to over complicate things I think it might be
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that simple yeah like there might be just a lot of people realize that like he is way too busy
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covering his own ass he's never coming right right right he's the conifier in tree in chief
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well it's kind of like if you're a shit kid in school and you're like substitute comes in hung
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over and you kind of intuitively know like hell yeah yeah yeah yeah I can't get in trouble it's
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a good day this guy is just gonna be we're gonna watch a movie everybody's gonna be cool yeah
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I think I'm gonna sell drugs right in front of him he's gonna be like I could use some drugs
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exactly there's some there's some element of that I think I don't know how much that's the entire
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thing but I think more than probably people want to so I like your theory but like and I'm not
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saying that you're you're 100% behind this or anything but if I if I understand it correctly
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when the Connors who are used to conning these dumb people talk about Sarah and John uh no no
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I can't talk about that it's copyrighted yeah not on not on this podcast no we release this
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uh when they realized that a con man was going to be president they directed all the people
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they were conning to support the con man to be president right that way the con man who knows
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the game isn't going to crack down on their cons which is why uh Alex probably hates Bush and the
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other guys they're Republicans but they're not con men they're just liars and stupid and evil
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maybe I think I think that's that's definitely a piece of it I don't know I think there's much
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more to look at here but that's just a sort of thought um anyway I told you this is going to be
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crazy and in this next clip uh Carrie asks Sophia if she's uh been thinking about aliens and then
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uh her answer why her answer makes no sense are you thinking about the incoming AI that's uh
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basically alien technology you know um alien AI are you know where is your mind going with
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everything now well I use I want people to know I'm amadextrous amadextrous meaning is what I have
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the same strength in both hands and it means why I'm using both loads of the brains sure and then
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no it doesn't systems and I cracked the codes on systems so that's why I was I never studied
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trademark law ever and I beat them in trademark law I can beat them in any law because I can crack
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the system on anything that I do and come up with things that you can't even imagine so have you
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been thinking about AI yeah I know a lot about trademark law what hold on huh all right that's
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all right that's weird that's weird but we'll just call it weird this next clip jordan this made me
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feel so worried on a number of levels because it is an instance of like I think that she thinks
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that movies are taunting her uh it made me deeply uncomfortable you remember that I know you
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remember because you're reading the matrix for a book you do remember the virtue car yes the
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hologram car that starts up with a musical note I think I do uh I'm still you know I have no clue
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you can go back and look at it yeah wireless car the virtue car it's the first virtual wireless
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hologram clones you saw the holograms in the movie okay but even said in the black panther
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movie hi Sophia she owns the black panther woman they called her Sophia you do know that the
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artificial AI in Saudi Arabia that they made her into a citizen yes and she's getting paid a paycheck
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her name is Sophia now that's you know they read the third eye matrix book and they read the fourth
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installment uh I got bad news so there's it comes from a Greek word for wisdom so there's an AI in
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Saudi Arabia I don't care about that part that's not really interesting to me I want to know I'm
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more interested they orchestrated 9-11 Dan I'm more interested in the idea that she did an AI
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orchestrate 9-11 I'm more interested in the idea of this virtual car thing and I like to call her
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attention to the Wonder Woman cartoon invisible jet um and then her saying that even in that uh
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in the black panther they said hi Sophia because one of the characters was named Sophia they only
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named that character Sophia so she would get the shout out well if that's the case I would
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recommend that Sophia Stewart avoid watching The Golden Girls The Walking Dead Nip Tuck Vanilla
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Sky Color Purple Grey's Anatomy or Young and the Rexless she should also never agree to meet with
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countless Russian queens from history or Sophia Vargara Sophia Coppola or Sophia Loren
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don't talk to any of those hold on she could totally meet Sophia Loren or the uh the uh
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embodiment of uh wisdom from Gnostic scriptures come on she owns that story now she does yeah
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she owns Gnosticism yeah so uh look she Sophia Stewart has done a lot for the world she has
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written The Matrix yeah she's written Terminator I've heard um she the Illuminati say she's gonna
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have a lot to do with the future um but she's gonna be a big deal but it's not just the future
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she's also helped with things that we didn't even realize she's helped with oh Homeland Security
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um read and the FBI they all got autographed copies of my book and Homeland Security called
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me up one year and they were totally blown away they read The Matrix workbook and they said I
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stopped the Roswell incident and I said what do you mean I stopped the Roswell incident they
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said we didn't know how these ships flew they captured these ships back in the you know the
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40s and the 50s so you wrote Independence Day and they had they broke them down by aerodynamics
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and they didn't know how they flew until they saw in The Matrix workbook where I said they flew
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with magnetic ring propulsion and the reversal of gravity and how they cloak invisible how they
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break the time barrier speed but how they also hover like helicopters they broke the time
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barrier in and out of portals and and if you don't believe it Carrie I will send you over the
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classified information that they sent me from Homeland Security that's I do I do believe you
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uh you know I've remote viewed the moon myself uh in fact I just had a dream about it the other
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night yeah there's a lot of crazy stuff going on on the moon there's a lot of there's a lot of
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crazy stuff a really boring place a lot of crazy stuff it's not a lot of crazy stuff oh god a lot
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of crazy stuff that Carrie is dreaming about on the moon talking to weird dudes who take pictures
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of the moon god damn it this is so fun why did it where did this oh I thought we were just gonna
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get some serious copyright talk Dan I have always wanted serious copyright talk on this show we got
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and now we're getting illuminati shit oh we got some every time I try and have a substantive
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discussion with you about the real issues you can't have the sweet I gotta talk about the
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salty the sour without the bitter the rough without the smooth she did she did sound like
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the Jason Lee speech from vanilla sky I wasn't gonna talk about Sophia I wasn't gonna talk about
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it was that uh uh what's her face I don't remember uh you know you're talking about Penelope Cruz
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no no the other one Cameron Diaz yeah Cameron Diaz I don't remember who I don't remember character
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names I remember Tom Cruise was in there uh so was it Cameron Diaz yeah it was totally okay yeah uh
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so so you lost your train so so so if I understand this correctly she solved the Roswell mystery
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the she's willing to one share classified information to somebody who's not allowed
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to have it tell people on air that I'm willing to give you this two she sounded more Alex Jonesy
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than I think anybody we've ever heard on uh project Camelot in that she's like she's totally claiming
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that they called her up yeah and they were like how did you know yeah and she's like I just
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reverse engineered it yeah god that's stupid she will go into later talking about uh how she's
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uh how she astrally time travels and she's able to go to other places and then ask them how their
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technology works and then come back and write about it all right so she's a time traveler also
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so here's here's my new pitch we've said before that these people should just be screenwriters
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and clearly we know they can't do that because writing is actually hard and dialogue is an issue
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yeah yeah they're not good with that Lucas learned that not good yeah he did yeah uh maybe they should
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just be in writer's rooms though yeah just like throwing out throwing shit at a wall like if you
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put them near a whiteboard you're gonna get something if you are in a writer's room and
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you're trying to write like Black Mirror episodes yeah if you have Leo Zagami in there and you just
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tell him to shut up unless he's poked yeah you you hit a dead end and you poke him exactly and
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then he's like blah yeah yeah we don't need your help when it comes to the actual like writing part
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right but i don't know we'll pay you double to shut up unless we poke you that would be a smart
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idea you have to wear a blindfold and a dunce cap uh but we'll poke you and then blindfold and a
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dunce cap that's harsh the dunce cap is just for us we'll poke you well now that you're blindfolded
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we can just say that it's a nice hat yeah it's a pop hat Leo um yeah so i mean she solved the Roswell
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mystery but you noticed i mean the thing that i thought that was the most alex jonesy about that
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is like you were recognizing earlier that she seems to have a lot of dates and then when she's
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talking about the Roswell thing she's like the the national security agency called me some year
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some year they called a while back some year not even saying a year it was a few
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times the other one she has specific dates i'm gonna go with many moons ago so in this next clip
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carrie asks if she has had contact with aliens yeah let's see there was some another question
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i saw in here someone wants to know oh have you been uh basically do you feel that you've been
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contacted by aliens uh abducted any of that well i'm gonna say this while i was writing the matrix
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and terminator in 1980 i had a dream where i saw the ship that you saw in the matrix the neberton
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azer i saw the ship and a dream but i didn't know that the ship was an alien ship until homelands
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it wasn't contacting me in 2010 or 2011 and they sent me over the pentagon and they can't a picture
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of the ship why which i will give to anybody when they get the matrix for book i will give you the
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homeland security pentagon information it's real i think that's illegal it is i'm really gonna go
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with that's still illegal i mean if it's true it's illegal but it's not right this is a trademark of
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her sort of technique i've read interviews or not interviews but i've read pieces that people have
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written about interviewing her and oftentimes you hit a brick wall whenever you ask for evidence
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because she'll say like buy my book and you can get it yeah it's all this stuff that's just
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intended to sell the book with this carrot that she's dangling out in front of it secret pentagon
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pictures of the nebakanezer that prove that my book is actually blah blah blah it's uh it look
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i respect the hustle totally you gotta hustle but i get it no this is a bad hustle because it's a
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bad hustle you're only gonna get idiots to to believe you because anybody that's a good group
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of people to hustle though yeah they're the hustle-iest people or hustle really not hard
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the hustle-obolist people it's really not hard but any any halfway right thinking person would
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hear like oh i buy your book and then you're gonna send me pentagon documents yeah yeah fucking right
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yeah that doesn't make sense yeah get out of here that doesn't make sense so i have i have one huge
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pet peeve with language like i don't obviously like uh as like all of all of those little words
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that we've just thrown into our conversation yeah even though they're not really there for any
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reason sure the one word i cannot stand anymore is basically basically what's going on i can't do it
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yeah the word needs to be removed it's kind of a um an attempt to sound smarter while using like
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yeah yeah i'm i'm i i'm boiling this down to the particulars for you when in reality you are
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absolutely you're dodging everything yeah exactly so uh but it doesn't matter because uh turns out
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that uh we learned something else about sophia in this next clip oh no let's see do you feel that
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you're what i would call a precog you see the future yes i'm i'm the oracle the oracle was
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created after me being a visionary seer there it goes she's the oracle she's the oracle yep so now
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so now not only not only should she be suing uh james cameron and and the laundry list but she
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should go after uh just about everybody socrates the oracle of delphi yeah yeah no but she's the
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oracle in the matrix man that's her what do you think i did not think that i would assume what
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happened is she wrote this vaguely science fictiony uh treatment in the uh early 80s and
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she ended up seeing the matrix and you know the character of the the oracle is a kindly older
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black lady and she identified with that character and because she's a little bit delusional kind of
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put a bunch together and then was like oh that's me oh that's huh and then everything went off the
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rails from there so i guess so if that's what she identifies with i assume she's uh sued akita as
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well the producers of that movie what do you mean uh well because that scene was essentially directly
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taken from a scene in uh akita nope she doesn't know about that she doesn't know about that no
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about a lot of the sources that uh the matrix actually came from because they did take a lot
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of shit there's a lot of like it was a remix movie yeah like that it's like it's a it's a great movie
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it's like a dj yeah it's it because like we said uh right at the beginning of this episode one of
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the reasons that it's so um mixable with other things is because it's so basic you know it has
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it has such archetypal uh imagery and and storytelling and what it did is it took this
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very simple universal story put it into a weird sci-fi uh cyberpunk uh aesthetic right and then
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served as a proof of concept of a slightly stolen version of filmmaking with the bullet time stuff
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and the the the interesting uh cinematography right well it's just like star wars was
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mean it was like a stolen from kurasawa and all of this shit like look we get it man it's tough
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to come up with ideas and then come up with it originally either no exactly yeah fucking
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shakespeare and joseph campbell didn't come up with the hero's journey he described no he did
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no he didn't no he came up with it he described it are you sure yes how do you know guessing i i
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mean it for somebody who has studied greek i have no idea how it is possible for you to know where
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archetypes come from come on dan i don't even think they come from that but anyway we have one
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last clip yeah one of the things that ties all of these disparate worlds of con people together
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whether it's jim baker whether it's alex jones whether it's project camelot it's a lack of
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flossing they're all afraid of cern and look at the cern machine instead of using cern to create
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different weather patterns that the natives the indigenous people the natives were using
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when they did the the war dance for the rain the rain that's right well they brought the rain down
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to water the earth when it had a drought so they could grow plants and food but these people are
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using the cern to destroy and kill people so they can bring wealthy oceanfront properties and all
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kinds of evil stuff for wealth right they wanted they wanted haiti they wanted puerto rico they
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wanted cuba but fidel died but you know what was holding them back on the voodoo and hey in haiti
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uh hoover uh louis was saved by voodoo yeah all right they couldn't get around the voodoo
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okay couldn't get around the voodoo could not get around you know what i swear to god i say that on
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a daily basis yeah god i wish i just get i could just get around the voodoo you can tell even in
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that clip the carrie's like okay all right okay okay okay i don't know what we're talking about
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anymore we gotta close this one i do not know this is gone too off the rails look i'm a remote
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viewer and i know what's going on on the moon even i don't believe that voodoo is rude it's such a
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it's such like it's amazing that arthur c clark's quote of like any technology indistinguishable
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from magic right right like it's a frustrating truth that that is true even when the technology
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is explainable right like it's not magic no it's very explainable it doesn't do a weather dance no
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what also wait so weather dances are real that's number one and cern is just a big science weather
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dance it's a big evil weather it's a big science weather dance that's taken down porta rico but
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also fidel they wanted to take fidel down but it was voodoo that yeah also she she goes on to
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ramble about like louisiana new orleans is full of voodoo folks no that's true and it's like wait
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you're talking about evil weather weapons and like voodoo not be like like being being very strong
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against these weather weapons the voodoo is strong with this one we can think of one hurricane that
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was the most devastating in all of history and it hit the one place that is most voodoo in the
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united states so i think well somebody is going to get around the voodoo eventually i think that
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argument's flawed if your argument is that voodoo negates weather weapons even on your own merits
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that argument is flawed i think it's all bullshit but you got to get around that somehow and you
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can't can't get around the voodoo death so all this is to say that sophia stewart undoubtedly
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wrote the matrix and terminator movies um this is a mess if there's one thing that we can all
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take away with from this is that you can't get around the voodoo dude no can't can't do it that's
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a good shirt can't get around can't get around the voodoo um so i think now at this point you
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probably recognize why i decided yeah we got to talk about this yeah we got to talk about this
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it's a lot of fun it was a lot of fun we will be back to alex jones on friday but until then
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we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com we do uh what if you wanted to follow us someplace
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we have uh twitter at knowledge underscore fight how about another place facebook how about if you
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wanted to subscribe to something itunes is an option all right what else we got uh i don't know
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do we have any other plugs i don't think so we're terrible at this nope you know what though oh i'm
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gonna be it's still not friday on thursday and tomorrow night if you're listening to this on
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illinois good friend of the show matt druffky yeah two brothers around us love matt can't wait
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to be there a lot of fun yeah um but you know what sophia stewart clearly lying about a whole
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bunch of shit but she's not killed anyone alex jones probably did kill a dude andy in kansas
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you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your
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work i love you
