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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan we're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Character named Alex Jones who walks among us is that who we talk like a mythical figure like a like a Paul Bunyan

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Paul Bunyan Alex Jones a man of folklore

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I was gonna call him a Nephilim legends will live on of the man

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Long after he's dead people will sit around campfire telling tall tales. It'll be like Homeric tradition

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Yeah, just telling the sing muse of the rage

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Yeah, so we talk about him in advance yeah, yeah, how are you doing

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We're recording this over the weekend. You are in the middle of your shows over at zany's. I hope they're all going well

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Oh, yeah, they they all went well except for the late one last night

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Which was late show Friday Friday, man

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Nelly they fucking went all out on that

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It was like a large group of people got together and decided to tolerate something simultaneously is a delightful

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Delightful stand-up experience. That's all too often the case at late shows

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You know people a little too drunk and a little too confused

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Yeah

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I mentioned that specifically for one reason and that is because there's a lot of stuff going on this weekend

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This episodes coming out on Monday, and unfortunately we're not gonna be able to cover a ton of things in Alex Jones world

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Yeah for this episode, but hopefully once time has passed. We'll be able to cover that first is that in Austin?

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There's a free Alex Jones rally going on now weekend refused unfortunately

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It is happening after we're recording this refused

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So we won't know the aftermath until later and then the second is news just broke that PayPal has kicked Alex off

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Oh, yeah, that could be a that could precipitate a real blow-up

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Now not all of his money comes in processed by PayPal

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Yeah, but that will cut a chunk out probably that is not that he's not gonna be happy about that really

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That's an interesting thing can they can they just do that absolutely so that means services so that

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Service Chase Bank could just kick him out to absolutely yep. Well then now that's a whole different world well

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I mean, that's what happened with he has to then remove all

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Everything but cryptocurrency he'd be living his dream. No because he doesn't understand crypto

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I know, but it's off the grid. Yeah, I don't I don't think it'll come to that probably but PayPal will probably you know

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It'll take a big chunk out of his his money, but it but that also is I assume

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They still have to give him that money. They can't just be like we keep all your PayPal

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No, I'm sure they can't hold it up sure it's like cash out

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and you're gone, but also at the same time I

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Don't think that's gonna affect his multi-level marketing June s money because I think that that's processed through June s

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Yeah, most likely course so they like the the thing that he's pivoting to yeah

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He's not allowed to touch any of that money until June s says it's okay. They give it back to him. Yeah exactly

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I don't think that him being kicked off PayPal is gonna affect that new hustle that he's got but it will

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Probably cut into infowars store sales again not a little bit harder for him to shop online to you know

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He's gonna have to put his credit information in there every single time. You can't just log into PayPal. Yeah frustrating experience

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I get it. There's no doubt about that

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So this is as good a time to met as any to mention that we are on PayPal and have not been kicked off

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And if you'd like to send us a donation, please send us a message

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I'll give you the email address to do that, but people who have done it a different way and who are supporting the show

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Yeah, I'd like to take a moment out before we get into today's episode to give them a nice shout-out

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First of all, we've got we got someone who is just joined up with a team. We're very excited about this

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I'd like to say thank you to Johnny G. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, John

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Thank you very much. Johnny G. Also. I'd like to say thank you to someone else who signed up this another

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We have a lot of cool names, you know, we are soda spider on the last soda spider

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That was a that was a highlight. This one isn't as much of a novelty, but it's a name

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I really like I like to say thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk Shadrach. I'm a policy wonk

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Yeah, Shadrach. Do you like Shadrach? I do wasn't he one of Daniel's friends? Yeah. Yeah, it was Shadrach

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Meshach and Abednego. Yeah, exactly Shadrach

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Is this the real Shadrach? Maybe I don't know. I thought those guys died

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I think I mean they didn't die in the fire where that was all that was the whole miracle

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They would have died by now. Yeah. Well, that's my question. You never know with the Bible folks

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I don't know Eddie pay was like 900 Eddie page is friends with Daniel and Michael from the Bible. There you go

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Yeah

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Thank you so much

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All the major Bible figures not real but every now and again, there's just some random tertiary character like oh, yeah, I'm Shadrach

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I I'm like 10,000 years old

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No big deal, I don't have any powers or anything. I'm just fucking old. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great

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Also great is someone else who's joined to put the team up and on an elevated level and we appreciate it

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Oh so very much. Thank you so much. Laura W. You're now a technocrat

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I'm a policy wonk

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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark

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Jar-jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little titty, baby

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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Laura. Thank you so much

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Laura W

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Oh so very much and I just like to take a moment because I don't think we do this enough because they're the people

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They're people who really help on a massive level with the show existing and

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Allowing us to make the show and we gave them a shout out as raptor princesses

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Along the way, but that's not that's not continuing. We don't continue to shout them out

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So I'd like to take this opportunity to say thank you again

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Updated. Thank you to our raptor princesses out there. We really appreciate it. You make the world go round. Yeah. Thank you

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I don't know. I don't know what are we gonna do an update every three or four months raptor princesses still doing?

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Love you guys. Keep on going. I don't know in case in case you were feeling ignored for even just a moment

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I'm prepping that a little bit possibly. I believe that's exactly what you're doing. I don't know how to appropriately show appreciation

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And that's the way I decided to do it

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So, thank you. We really appreciate it

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We're just gonna text all of our raptor princesses once every three months just to be like updated. Thank you. Just an automated

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Thank you all so much and everybody everybody who make this possible and we couldn't do it without you cuz certainly ain't no sponsors

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Knocking down these doors. Uh, Dan. Yeah, if you do

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Message you and get the PayPal address in order to donate that way. Yes, sir. Would you be a paypalacy wonk?

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Oh, that's not bad. That's that's really close to bae ballady. That's a Mortal Kombat

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Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Why not? Why not? Yeah, so Jordan

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What's up, Dan? So recently

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Uh, well, let me let me phrase it this way. Let me start this way. Okay, Alex Jones is a main who does not grant many interviews

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There are there are a few times that he actually gets all the way anybody. Oh, we're gonna listen to him do an interview

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We're talking about like we had of course Megyn Kelly. Well, we're gonna listen to him do an interview

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It's gonna be bananas. We had him go on Joe Rogan's show

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We had these interviews, but it's very rare for him to actually sit down with anybody

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This week a gentleman by the name of Patrick Bette David

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Hyphenated last name Bette David. I sat down with Alex Jones in a hotel. I bet Goliath, but that's okay

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The smart money goes but you lose

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So we know about this from the last

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2018 last present-day episode Alex mentioned

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When he was talking with Owen Schroyer about their masculinity issues. Yes. He mentioned walking into a hotel room to do an interview

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And how he had his chest out and all the ladies came a-runnin

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Oh, this is that interview. This is the interview that he's talking about and let me say he looks like shit

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He's not

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Walking around like a super masculine guy. He's like and look I

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I'm

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Reluctant to and criticize myself for critiquing appearances

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But Alex is drunk. Oh, he looks like shit. That's not good slouched over and I'm a man with the cross eyes

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So I'm not someone who likes to critique people's eyes

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But like I have a cross eye his eyes are out of bounds like they're out of bounds

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There's a wandering aspect to his eyes that are just like it's not it's not a stigmatism. It's not like a cross-eye situation

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There's just something fucked up going on with his eyes. Okay, there's a nefariousness

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Oh, okay. All right. I'm not sure what it is. It's very weird. He's got he's got the evil eye

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He's got stink eye what's going on? I had to stop myself. Yeah, they could be so he sits down for a two-hour interview

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if you're describing this correctly, then maybe the reason that he has this meltdown of

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Insecure masculinity happen on air is not because the story went as he told it wherein he walks around

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His chest puffed out and all the women came running but instead is because he was looking like a piece of shit

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And everybody treated him as such and he is not doing well at all

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That that's a good theory. Certainly that sounds that sounds that sounds a little bit more like the insecure Alex that I know

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He sits down for a two-hour interview with this cat and he is drunk. I'm gonna make no bones about that

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He's drunk from the beginning. Okay, but I know does he keep drinking? Oh, yes, he does. Hell, yes. They're drinking high balls. Who drinks high balls during an interview anymore?

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It's very clear. They're on camera drinking. Did Salinger write this interview? Patrick Bette-David is drinking too

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Like but he can handle his booze. So he keeps it together. We're gonna get into it. Okay. All right

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All right

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That is going to be an untold piece of this story because right-wing watch put out a piece about this because Alex

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Spoiler alert talks about how he's ready to die. Yeah. Well, I mean I assume at this point

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He finally is they cover that aspect about it

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But let me say that there's a whole lot more going on here than meets just the immediate first glance

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So we're gonna get into this

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We're gonna walk through the interview talk about how fucking stupid Alex is and how drunk he gets

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But here is an out-of-context drop of things to come. So you can say I'm the head of the Illuminati. Oh you could oh

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Boy, that's very interesting. So new theory. Uh-huh. When did Biggie die?

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95 right. All right

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Who's ready to die now Dan who's ready to die now

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Maybe every 20 years Biggie reinvents himself like the there's a slight resemblance with Bill Hicks

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Not so with notorious. Well Biggie also did have an eye that might be considered out of bounds. Oh

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Oh

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We might be honest

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All right, so let's start the interview where

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Patrick Bette David begins by asking Alex. Oh, he starts really by giving Alex's credits

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Yeah, which normally if you were giving like Alex Jones's credits

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you might say you started infowars.com in the 90s you

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Built it up from something you were doing out of your dad's dental office, right and created a multi-million dollar empire

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There's a massive influx of cash whenever Biggie died. There are a lot of nothing suspicious. Oh boy new theory new theory on the new theory

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There are a lot of like legitimate credits

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You could give him like you can't take away the fact that he built this business and did something right? Absolutely pretty remarkable

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Instead here are the credits that Patrick gives him. So if you follow the news if you follow media, you're gonna see

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Jones who is recognized I think it's pretty fair to say you are

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The most controversial political figure in America today. Is that fair to say something like that?

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Yeah, I was that I'm the most banned person in the 21st century there

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There's no doubt that I'm the most demonized most attack person in the world today

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so the

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What I what I'm trying to point out here is that instead of giving credits that are like these are the things you did

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These are this is what makes you relevant

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His only identifying credit that he's being given it all is victimhood. Yeah, no

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I just I just wrote down his credit is this we have today the biggest victim in the world

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Yeah, his definition is like I'm persecuted. Yeah. Yeah, you asked who Patrick bet David. Nobody is more persecuted than me

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I mean, it's crazy. They took my children away at the border

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They put him in a separate detention facility and I am forced to sit here as I'm deported. Wait, he's not now

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That's that not him. That's super interesting that not him. So Patrick bet David is an entrepreneur and financial advisor

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Though he's of a Syrian and Armenian descent Patrick grew up in Iran

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Wherefore where from his family was forced to flee during the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s

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They lived in a German refugee camp for two years before their family came to America when Patrick was 12 at which point he enrolled

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In school and joined the US Army after graduating high school in short

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He's a living counterpoint to all of Alex's narratives about refugees and immigrants and it's an absolute tragedy

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And travesty that this doesn't come up at all in their interview

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Not once so that that's a little bit of like just a brief introduction to who Patrick bet David is

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Uh-huh get more into this

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Why is this dude interviewing Alex? Well, he runs a sort of motivational and

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entrepreneur based

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YouTube channel. Oh, so he's also a multi-level marketing scammer out. Let me say this

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That wasn't a no you didn't say that you didn't answer with a no well

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Let me say this

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So I may have sussed out an issue

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Oh my god, he works for Janice doesn't it? It doesn't work for Oh Christ. All right fine. Fuck it

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You've already seen you've already you've already sort of figured this one out. I might as well explain it

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Judging solely from the titles of his books

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You might think that Patrick bet David is a little bit of a snake oil salesman

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Two of his books are called quote doing the impossible the 25 laws for doing the impossible

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Love your neighbor as they self also his other one is quote drop out and get schooled the case for thinking twice about college

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These are book titles that basically emulate the strategy of clickbait titles for articles

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So in 2009 Patrick bet David attended a dinner with George will conservative columnist

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I don't want that after which he was inspired to start a website called saving America the stated goal of which was to quote

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Restore America's prosperity and return us to the founding principles that have always made America exceptional

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Interesting that in 2009 he was using the same empty bullshit platitudes that Alex uses today

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Soon after this Patrick launched the PHP agency which stands for people helping people

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The company sounds innocuous couple the company ostensibly offers life insurance annuities and debt settlement services

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It's already a scam. However, if you read articles about PHP closely, you'll notice some interesting peculiarities

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For instance an article on opportunity lives points out that in the six years since he founded the company quote

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His company has grown at such a rapid pace

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It now has more than 5,500 representatives in 33 states

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That would be a massive success story

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And one I would be probably more impressed by if one of the only three links on PHP's website is labeled quote become a life

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insurance agent

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This is where things start to get into some interesting overlap with modern-day Alex Jones quote to begin training

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With PHP and start the process of becoming an agent requires a one-time new associate agreement fee of a hundred fifty dollars

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This allows associates to attend trainings

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materials dot dot dot then you come to find out that you pay

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1495 monthly as a fee to access the support app

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I mean you need it and things start to become a little bit more in focus

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You got to have support if you want to sell life insurance

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PHP agency is supposedly about selling life insurance, but in reality what it's about is selling you on the idea of signing other people up to

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Become life insurance agents, and then you make money off of them recruiting other people to become life insurance agents and on down

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Apparently as some people do but it's such a small part of their sales pitch at all

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There's hundreds of stories that I've read of people who went to their seminars

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And you know how you know how all these things work you they bring people to a ballroom

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Someone gives a speech, and then they isolate them yeah and try and convince them to become a recruiter for them

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So the stories you can find are all basically the same quote Deborah writes quote

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I went to help a friend out and the guy who was there

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Tried to recruit me and wanted me to give him my phone so he can call all my friends and family

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Also to join I didn't do that because it was rude. I went to buy. That's the only reason

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I went to buy a policy and he hired me so that's not good

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Our user on reddit writes quote they purposefully only give vague info in the interview

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So I didn't quite get what was up until I went back to the office an hour later to do

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Orientation with a co-worker who invited me there during this hour-long break

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I felt wrong about this company and like it was very immoral

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But the phrase MLM still hadn't entered my mind

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When I got to the orientation of my co-worker explained the business model in more detail it was clearly a classic MLM scheme

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You make money off money money other people make by recruiting people who recruit more people who recruit more people etc

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And also by tricking poor people into buying their shitty life insurance

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Yeah

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It goes on and on and on PHP appears to be a textbook example of

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MLM and Patrick Bette David is the founder of said company here

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He is interviewing Alex Jones just days before Alex announces on air that he's becoming a middle-level

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Distributor and another MLM called June s scammers you know seems connected

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But I don't know tonight. It doesn't seem like a coincidence. I oh I went to the bank to get an equity loan the other day

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And now I'm an accounts manager for the Midwest region is that crazy isn't that crazy how normal businesses work?

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Yeah, that is ridiculous how it happens and now I got to meet these quotas, and I don't even know what I'm doing interestingly

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Patrick Bette Davis also David also

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Advises people not to go to college and to buy homes or not to buy homes because those things are going to be waste of

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Money and get you in debt that might be okay advice if his solution wasn't to advocate people instead getting onto into entrepreneurship

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Which based upon the business he started up as an even more surefire route towards losing more money?

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So all that money that you are gonna put into college education all that debt you're gonna accrue

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What if you just did the same debt, but gave it all to me instead and then?

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Well, I mean fuck off then then you can go fuck off, but first give me that money

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There's so many stories about like it's all the exact same sort of shit

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It's classic multi-level marketing pyramid scheme type shit people go in oh, there's this fee

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You have to page sign up is that all of it well also you got to pay the monthly

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For access to the app right like that. Oh is that all yes

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That's all and then afterwards people signing up and giving them this money

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They find out oh also you also have to have life insurance through one of our providers

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Well you have to have life insurance through one of their providers

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That's part of the game exactly so there's this there's this really an ethical business model

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That is being run by this guy and Alex is now part of a different one that has the exact same model this whole world

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Like the Alex is just feeding all of his they all fucking know each other well

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They all have to I think that's probably true

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But then also like this is this is case in point why I don't think it's really all that

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Important to cover Alex anymore

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He's become the most pathetic pile of shit

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And he's not going to lead his audience towards white supremacy and nazism anymore as much as he's going to lead them to

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Financial ruin and like I don't want for them to have to go through that. I think that's awful, but I I'd

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Look I feel like it's punching down what about his show right now look

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What if the only way to stop the rise of nazism in?

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Germany was to instead make Hitler a medium distributor in a multi-level marketing

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I mean we've all we've already talked about this when the Klan was reforming. They were just

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So this this like this strategy for hateful organizations has always been there. It's a good one

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Yeah, when you are filled with hate

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It's often hard to discern whether or not you're getting into a multi-level marketing scheme

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Yeah, so that is who Patrick Bette David is so that doesn't come up in the interview

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But this is two days before our last episode where Alex had the June s guy on

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And it like made the big announcement about info wars. Yes, so he this interview was two days before he

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So he was already talking to Janice. He already had that deal

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Undoubtedly and info wars. Yes had already been up

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Oh, like it wasn't something remember when he got caught with trans porn on his phone

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Yeah, that was a like a month or so back whenever it was everything blurs time wise

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Yeah

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But the reason that he got caught was because he was pulling up info wars

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Yes on his phone and that window was there so it had already been something that he had like gotcha

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He had put out there, but he hadn't really

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fully committed to being like

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Now we're doing an infomercial virgin s on my show

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Yeah, the reason that I bring that up is it's important that this

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Interview is happening with him fully aware that he is about to pimp his audience to June s. Yeah, so

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It's weird. The the the headspace that he's in is is very strange

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Anyway, it is next clip. He talks more about his victimhood and his being banned from everything

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I think he might oversell this a little bit. Oh, yeah, so you've been now banned off what Facebook Twitter YouTube

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Over reddit Instagram every single one of these things over a hundred platforms over a hundred platforms all not a chat

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Band you take our platform. We just launched a week before we got banned a month ago

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Two million downloads so they just banned it

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They went to number one

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So we're banned for being number one and then they want us banned so they can then lie about what I supposedly stand for

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See, that's what they do. They which is nothing and then they demonize you your YouTube channel has roughly 1.5 billion views give or take

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That was just one of them. That's just one one. They had 5 billion views total 5 billion views total

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They banned they blew them all the way over 20 channels in one day

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If you had 20 YouTube channels, that probably means you're up to something. You know what I mean?

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That's not like a coherent

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You're just maximizing your audience. Well, yeah, but that also probably means maybe you have like I don't know

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It feels like maybe you have one channel that's in order to antagonize one channel. That's in order to put out maybe

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How would you even know they were connected? I don't know. How could you even know?

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I think I YouTube could figure that out. You would think that they would have some sort of a

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System. Yeah, I don't know there aren't a hundred platforms for him to be kicked off of he had 20 YouTube channels

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I think that's a red flag in and of itself and then beyond that even like the his app didn't go to number one

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It was number one on trending right after he got thrown off all these places

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Yeah, so he's exaggerating all of this in order to really hyper inflate much like the gas prices in

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2008

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He's trying to inflate his sense of victimhood in order to really I mean what he wants is sympathy and outrage

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Yeah, and he knows that he doesn't deserve it. So he's got to create it, right?

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All right. Next question. Why is this a creator of a multi-level marketing scheme?

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Doing an interview with Alex because he has this channel that gets like five thousand eight thousand ten thousand views for videos

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And he knows that Alex Jones is gonna get five hundred thousand really. Absolutely

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I didn't know I know but why did Alex agree to go on this show?

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Probably because the guy who runs Junesse knows Patrick Bette David. I

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Assume I don't know that's the only explanation more Patrick Bette

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David wanted to inflate his you know, really bring some attention

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That's why he reached out to Alex but Alex doesn't give interviews unless there's something else going on

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Well, I think that well, okay. I looked into his channel and one of the things I found

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First of all is that he recently interviewed Ric Flair. Whoo

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All right. Well, that's nice and it makes more sense than this Alex interview. He's much more coherent did Ric Flair

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Invent his own cryptocurrency flare box. No, but he did used to have flare financial

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He offered it was like financial advice and their slogan was put your finances in the figure four

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Can't see why yeah, so but like he had Ric Flair on that's cool

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But then the downside of that is he had Ben Shapiro on talking about how the Clintons are awful rarely reach or sure

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So I think Alex could have gotten a request from him and then gone through and seemed like oh shit

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There's Ric Flair super cool. Oh wait, he had like Perez Hilton on he's a troll. Oh, wait, what's this?

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He had Ben Shapiro on talking shit about the Clintons. Maybe this guy's okay. I don't know

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There's a hundred reasons I can think of possibly why Alex agreed to do this that aren't like

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Patrick offered to pay him right, which I don't think is the case right? I don't know. I don't know I

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It's it's a bit of a mystery. Okay, but also Alex is in a bleeding place, you know

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Like he's losing all of his access. He's losing the ability to get his message out

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If he has this guy who conceivably has a conduit

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Yeah

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and is related to celebrities in some way really some celebrities have deemed him worth talking to I

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Could see him being like yeah sure this could help get my message out or he's just like I'm glad that

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Anybody's talking to me at all anymore and Patrick Bette David is like lives in, Texas

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So it's not like a thing where he had to fly to see him. Yeah

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So he just he drove there in like a studio there in Austin. Okay, cool. Yeah

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Yeah, they're just another under studio there in a hotel room. Okay, a suite. Oh, well, that's not terrible

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No could be worse. So in this next clip Alex talks about how he was a big audience and about how

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Demonized he was and how everything isn't his fault. It's not there's a massive

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left-wing

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Conspiracy against him running then wouldn't it be his fault run by none other

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Then the demons spawn Hillary Clinton. Oh, it's Clinton Hillary Clinton's buying this. I thought it was Soros. No

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Look, I I had a big audience and I'm on a couple hundred radio stations still

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so we still reach a lot of people but

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Hillary Clinton

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Ran ads about a month before she lost in 2016

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And she thought it was such a negative figure that they edited these tapes and they they played these tapes out of context

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Demonizing me and then connecting it to Trump and

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Then when she lost the Democrats actually believed that I was Trump spring

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She ran 18 million dollars of ads the federal election commission says oh real quick on that. I tried to find this

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I couldn't find any fucking information from the FEC that she paid 18 million dollars to run anti Alex Jones ads

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No, you have to file that with the FEC. I first of all, I mean, there's no way but here's something interesting

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You do look up Hillary Clinton 18 million dollars and you find that

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The only the only thing about 18 million and Hillary Clinton that's really relevant is that in 2008 in her concession speech

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She said this referring to the number of people who voted for her in the primaries quote

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Although we weren't able to shatter that highest hardest glass ceiling this time. Thanks to you

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It's got about 18 million cracks in it and the light is shining through like never before

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Filling us all with the hope and the sure knowledge that the path will be a little easier next time now

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I can't find any evidence that she paid 18 million dollars to demonize Alex Jones, but it is interesting that the only thing

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That relates to Hillary Clinton and 18 million is this very inspirational speech that she gave

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About the glass ceiling during her concession speech in 2008 election. Well, maybe those three million of those were illegal immigrants

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So it's only yeah illegal cracks in the glass ceiling, but I'll be having those but I'm just saying it's an interesting parallel that Alex

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Is lying about this thing about her

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Demonizing him and the parallel that you can find with that number is something that would also really piss off Alex

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So there's a decent chance that he just conflated a number of things that make him mad about Hillary

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That's kind of my working theory on it. Yeah

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I just like the idea that he thinks the FEC keeps records not on how much you

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Spend on attack ads or ads of any nature, but on how much you spend per person you are attacking

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Yeah, exactly everybody like the Americans for Prosperity ran

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$20,000 in attacking a big bird, right? Like you have to know exactly

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That's how that's the mean it's on the spreadsheet, baby. Yeah. Yeah

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On TV and the web saying that I am in charge of Trump. It's not true. You ever talk to Trump

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He's in charge. Okay, and

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I have some connection to Trump like one tenth of what they say. So they ran 18 million dollars of ads

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On YouTube and Google and Facebook and TV saying here's Alex Jones. He's Trump's brain

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He tells Trump what to do and they show a clip of Trump saying something similar and me saying something similar

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Real quick. Alex also played his own versions of Trump saying similar things to him. Hold on

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So Alex may exact same argument around the same time that Trump is listening to us

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But they get it all the fucking time about how like he gets information to Trump

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But Trump loves his information and the globalists are trying to keep that information

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Right making the exact same argument. Well, yeah, but they made it sound bad fucking stupid

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18 million dollars 18 million dollars. So they ran that according the Federal Election Commission

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No, and then when she

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Lost all hell broke loose. We had like advertising deals you name it

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I lost like 10 million dollars the first month when Trump won. He's talking about the Google ad stuff. Yeah

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He got kicked off of it. I don't believe the number he gave back then was 10 million dollars

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I think he's over exaggerating things once again

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Everything was coming after me. They were the people were suing me and Emma lost or gained you lost after he won when he won

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They went for my sponsors everything because I actually believe their own propaganda

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Which wasn't true that I was like telling Trump what to do. And so once he once he won

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They had run this ad thinking connecting me out of context with radical statements to the to to the then

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A candidate would are you saying that Trump was making radical statements would demonize him?

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But then when it failed they believed their own propaganda, they smoked their own dope and then

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Almost two years later. It has been one hell of a ride. They literally believe their own BS

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That I am in charge of Trump and I'm giving him every move and it's the opposite

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I may have talked to Trump since you got elected ten times. Okay, that's still too many that is that's still too many

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but either way

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What is he talking about? No one is saying what he's saying they're saying

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No, nobody is doing what he's saying. They're doing you're going even the stuff that he's saying happened to him didn't happen

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What is he talking about? You're gonna experience this a lot. This is

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This is this is like I so I was

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Like straight up very well might as well be called obfuscation

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Yeah, like he's he's responding to criticisms that no one's making he's responding to like fake

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Versions of allegations he's responding to things that he thinks people are doing that are actually what he was doing. It's nonsense

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He's all over the map and I want to I want to

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They kicked me out of the gym

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Because I bench-pressed too much weight, right? That's what happened. I bench-pressed 700 pounds

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everyone to do with that that woman who I

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Tore her leg off and threw it through the window breaking that glass ceiling by the way. Thank you. Ladies 18 million cracks. Yeah

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Look the I want to I want to say this because we kind of talked when we talked about how Patrick Bette

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David is also running a multi-level marketing scheme here

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But I want to say that he does as good a job of interviewing Alex as anybody I've ever seen really

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He does do a good amount of pushing back against him

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Okay, he has a couple of good points and I don't want any like I don't care if people watch this

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I'm not gonna I it's too long

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It's two hours long people shouldn't subject themselves to that unless they really want to but by the way this

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Episode of knowledge fight will be eight and a half hours long probably

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There is a really funny trend that keeps going throughout it that is like Patrick Bette

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David sort of rolling his eyes and his body language being like

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Like there is a lot of that like Alex lunch dough slouched over kind of drunk and Patrick Bette

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David looks like what are you talking about?

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So there is that like he does he doesn't just let Alex say a lot of shit

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But at the same time he's he's kind of woefully unprepared

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He doesn't have a ton of information, right?

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If he did he could have like he was in a position where he could have like really skewered him

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He was inspired by George will this is not a guy who's interested in information

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He's a guy who sat down happily laughing along with Ben Shapiro. So yeah. Anyway in this next clip

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They eat want Patrick wants to talk a little more about Alex's communications with Trump

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When's the last time you spoke to Trump? I?

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Don't want to get into that but you know last few months last few months and what's he telling you?

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What's he telling when you're talking to him? We're gonna turn you on it's getting better. Why are you calling me?

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Oh, we need to be positive water wet everybody together no matter what color they are who they are

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It's literally like a pep rally, you know, one of the things I'm curious about

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Close to Trump if you've spoken to him ten times ever since you've been banned

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Have you had a conversation with them since the ban or no? He did sell me a timeshare. No

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I mean I've had conversations with people high-level in the campaign and in the White House

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I know this is important Alex said the campaign because he's the part of his brain that

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Remembers like the narratives to talk about is still operating on 2016 level

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So when he says I talked to people in the campaign what he means is in the administration

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But he's still operating off that. I'm part of this and he's not anymore

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And I've just said listen

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People in the campaign were fired before the administration million dollars during the campaign now

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It's tens of thousands of articles a month

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Everywhere lying about me there are ever showing what I suppose they said just claiming I said something and I said this is clearly

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just like the Nazis did you pick a group and

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Then you specifically what I said that minority group and then once you set the precedent that people accept going after them

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Then it's everybody else. So I'm the first domino because I've studied history. I was smart enough to understand that I'm not this important

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They picked me because I'm flamboyant and stuff out of context demonized wrong now that he won

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they have ramped it up that I'm this

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horrible person and

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Then now they are going to try to shut me down and then once they shut me down over a hundred plus platforms

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Facebook Twitter Google

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iTunes you name it name five. It'll be everybody else and just like I predicted

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As soon as I was shut down. It was a domino effect for everybody else. So that's the plan

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Okay, it's not I don't want him to do this interview so much anymore

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Yeah more like I want bet David to like walk over and just be like, oh honey

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Come on, sweetie. You are that bad of a person. Everything is okay

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Oh, if you just accepted it, then you could change and grow enjoy or just enjoy your money. Go go hang out

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Barden Springs, honey

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Sweetie pie you get out of here you you you can have a good life. Just just stop just go to bed

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Go to bed. So in that clip Alex is saying that what is being done to him is like what the Nazis did and

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Patrick to his credit wants to talk a little bit more about that

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Because Alex also is saying that everyone keeps calling him a Nazi. Oh, he's so mad about that

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They just call you a racist and a Nazi and that's why they don't have to deal with the things that you're saying

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They just mischaracterize you it's first they came for gerbils, right?

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I didn't say anything cuz I was not a

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Propagandist right next they came for Hitler and I didn't say anything cuz I hadn't committed any genocides right and third

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Everybody was fine. Oh interesting. It's a good one

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So I'll say I think we should go with that, you know get Alex gone get Trump out of there

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Everybody's good and his examples that he'll give about like the people who got banned after him are like Gavin McGinnis

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Yeah, who's leading a legit?

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paramilitary organization of

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weirdos who punch each other naming cereals as an initiation ritual and

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Apparently find their way into lots of public photos with congressmen giving white power signs

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So like this like this sort of thing isn't like okay good like that's not I'm not worried about

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that

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Gavin McGinnis gets banned. Hooray first they came for the Nazis and I did not care because I

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Didn't want to kill Jews at the same time if it were the state doing it different conversation

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That is a different conversation different conversation

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But the idea that they like these these private companies kick Alex off and then oh my god in the aftermath

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The proud boys are gone

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fine

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That tracks. So now Patrick does a pretty decent follow-up question here to ask about the idea of like being called a Nazi

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Anderson Cooper a morning Joe doesn't matter when somebody uses the word Nazi somebody in America

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And they say Hitler and all this other stuff red flag goes up for me and I'm a guy that's studying everything

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I'm a guy that's

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Half communist half imperialist born and raised in Iran

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So when I see a comparison like that made by people that have only lived in America to me

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It's a red flag. So how much of this Alex? Do you think is it's self-inflicted by you?

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Versus oh, yeah, Tucker pushes hardcore Hannity pushes O'Reilly pushed a lot of people push, but they're still out there

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Why are you the one that's being banned?

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That's a great question. They call me a Nazi constantly

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You know both my grandfather's almost out in World War two. It's it's it's that Tuesday who called you who's then we say

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I mean any major names that call you Nazi. We've had like Tom Brokaw say I'm an unalloyed racist

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Okay, but that's not Nazi though. Well

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It was in DC last week. We would run up and scream. You're a Nazi. You're a Nazi

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That's what they say that would specific any major name cuz I'm that all the time so good and by the way

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I want to say this part real quick. I'm not sure if you caught that

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He's like he's like do you have a specific name with someone who's called you a Nazi because you do that all the time

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I know this is great. I'm loving this that question does not get answered

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Oh, it doesn't know part two that I think it's just fair for everybody for both sides

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partially why I brought my attorney said don't do this and I and I spoke to you about that yesterday as my attorney say Pat be

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No, I told you asked our question. No. No, I love it

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I know you did and so when you and I spoke I said look my attorneys are concerned and so we went back and forth

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But the reason why should I be concerned you?

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Know money's typed in it. So they're coming from a money number. You said yeah, you're a man has your own life

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You say what you say. I see what I say if I was Jeffrey Dahmer who got an interview by the nose

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Yep, no one says why is the mood? Why is NBC here being Jeffrey Dahmer? Let's say I think yeah

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People are saying that before he died last year. Let's let you know. Let's say that Charlie Manson

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You're allowed to interview Charlie Manson. What is this new thing where they say don't interview Alex Jones?

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What is it because they built a straw man learning of things? I haven't said I'm glad for the tough questions

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They build a straw man. Yeah, and then they don't want me to respond. Here's an example. There's a video on info Wars calm boo

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so

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The the like what he's not taking into consideration is like an interview with fucking

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Dahmer or Charles Manson is going to be like, why did you eat people? Yeah. Why did you kill Sharon Tate?

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Why did you do that? Yeah, why did you get people to kill?

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They take that out of context all the time. Look only part of what I said was yes

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Let's go kill Sharon Tate, but the rest of it was

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politically an interview with Charles Manson where you're like if let's say Jake Tapper sat down with Charles Manson and was like

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Hey, is there anything to that helter-skelter, you know, like if he were to see like if that interview were to happen

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But that'd be like, holy shit. No, and they wouldn't ever do that. We're really sitting down with a puff piece on Manson tonight

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I'm 60 minutes. We have got Charles Manson wrongly accused

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so like the equivalent that he's trying to make is like yes, if you want to have the media subject you to like

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Really having to be called to question for the the things that you've said and what you've been a part of

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Go ahead and subject yourself to that. I'm sure they would do that. Yeah

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I'm sure the media would have that interview but it would be brutal. I actually probably wouldn't they do a terrible

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No, they do a terrible job

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but I mean oddly enough so far of all of the interviews that we've ever heard with Alex Jones that

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One question is the best thing that anybody has done but you you do recognize like that

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Alex is able to deflect from it so easily. Yeah, but it's still like a righteous question

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Yeah, and there's more like he asks a couple of like if he could actually get Alex to answer the questions

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Yeah, if Alex wasn't drunk and acting like a child

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There are some questions that he fucking can't answer. No, absolutely. That was one of them for sure

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Yeah, that was dead on who's called you a Nazi

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You call people Nazis all the time. What is the difference?

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That's very difficult for him and he doesn't answer it

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So he has a lot of ideas about why he's being targeted which is another one of the hard questions. Why is Tucker why?

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So good like those sorts of things don't you think Alex for even a moment?

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You might be a little bit at fault. Do you think Alex to yourself? Do you think there's at least Alex?

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Just say one little thing. Maybe you did something. Maybe it's not entirely your fault. I'll take any responsibility

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MIT

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some

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Fucking fault you pathetic child. My friend is a useless road to go down with Alex

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But he does have other reasons why he thinks that the globalists are attacking him, but your whole question

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going to

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Is it self-inflicted they're after me?

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Because they can track back the reboot of 1776

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They can track back how the economy is trying back and how the globalist suppress things by design

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Contract back steakhouse and I don't want to even want the credit

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But they believe George Soros and the globalist believe that I'm the first domino and that we triggered

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This grassroots movement to launch Trump. So they believe if they take me out

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Trump can continue on or be defeated. What so why did I bring you on? Okay. I'm a content creator

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I'm a capitalist. I'm an entrepreneur

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You've got to even like ask can I interview Alex Jones this I could be Adolf Hitler a

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Horrible person. Yeah, you have a right to interview me. So that's as far as you go with Hitler entrepreneurs on you know

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I mean the channels are mainly an entrepreneur channel. We've had Mark Cuban. We've had Magic Johnson

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We've had Kevin Hart, but we've had glory already. I mean who has Gloria?

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I had a glory already just to speak to see why it's great. I've had

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Yeah, I've had what I like. It's smart for him to interview Gloria. All right, you hate her

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Yeah, but it's smart to interview her if I recall correctly. He believes that she's works with the CIA

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Oh, yeah, but he'd interview her. She just won't go on a show ridiculous

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Um, so yeah, Hitler Hitler bad dude horrible person. This is horrible person

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This is you know, he turned his red receipts on and then he still doesn't answer for like six very rude

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Very rude. So they're like that is part of something that's going to pay off later

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There's something at the end of this episode that I think is fucking inexcusable

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like the Alex him saying Hitler is a bad guy is the prelude to a

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Fucked up thing at the end of this episode and I'm teasing a little bit. There's that and then there's also

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We're going to weave net. We don't have segments on this podcast, but we have a segment at the end of this

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Oh, we have a segment. Uh, there are 50 clips. Did I record this? Wait, there are 50 clips

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I have 50 clips, but one of the reasons last 15 are a game that you and I are going to play

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Where you are going to have to try and figure out where Alex's brain goes

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Okay, so that's a teaser

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So I just want to say that in case anyone gets bogged down in the idea because a lot of these things that are coming

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Up are things that we've discussed on the podcast already. So it's not really yeah

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It's not really robust territory for us to be like, all right, Alex

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You think you're a victim blah blah blah blah blah. You think everyone calls you a Nazi for no reason when you know

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It's not like yeah, if I were I'm projecting a little bit because if I listen to this podcast

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I would be interested in learning more and hearing about like what are the fresh things of this?

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Yeah, and I just you know, I want people to know

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There's something big coming at the end of this

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Anyway, like we said a lot of this does seem to be

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Patrick Bette David asking do you take any sort of personal responsibility?

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Responsibility for the situation you find yourself in and he tries to reiterate that question here

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And what do you know not super successful?

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There are people who agree and disagree with you who are defending you the part

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I'm trying to ask from you is the following. Is there any part of this that is self-inflicted that is cause I run a business

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We have flaws some of it is self-inflicted. Some of is my CEO some of its my CMO

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Some of it's my chief financial officer, but I am I lack of ethics and morality

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Self-inflicted from your side or no. No, I'm saying yeah, I'm gonna answer that

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but let's

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America do we have to ask is a bro. Yeah

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What have I said here? I can't wait to answer that question. That's a great question

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I I love making the country great. What have I said? That's so damn evil

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Because the mainstream media projects what I've done and because they've created this

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They don't want me to be able to respond, but let me tell you

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If you go back six years ago with Sandy Hook first happened

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And my listeners called in it didn't think it happened. Yeah, let the record show

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Alex is the one who brings up Sandy Hook Patrick did not bring up Sandy Hook

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Yeah, and they showed anomalies. And so I had guessed on looking on both sides very small part in my whole

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compendium, you know the last

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25 years it's less than 1% of what I've done. That's all this is like 1 10th of her scent and

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So within a year or two, I said no, I think Sandy Hook happened mass shootings happen

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That's the media as soon as I said, I thought it happened because I'd question it before went. Oh my god. We've got him and

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They went crazy and then they just published thousands of articles a week saying

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Jones is harassing families. He's going to their houses

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He won't stop saying it didn't happen and then I call now send them letters and I'm like

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Here's 50 videos saying I believe Sandy Hook happened and here's the debates where I just had open discussions five years ago

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They won't stop because it's like saying Saddam killed babies and incubators in 1990

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Good home. It's it's using that to demonize me. So I've already

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Said I'm sorry the media took out a complex

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10,000 times. I'm already said that I'm done all that and they only like oh my god

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He's weak on this and so it's in papers every day Jones is harassing families. No Jones is saying Sandy Hook didn't happen

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It's the papers saying that that are saying that it's not me, but but let's expand on that

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Let's I didn't lie about WMDs in Iraq cool times it no one questions

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So they're pulling on the heartstrings not the families, but the lawyers

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Because they're scared of what I'm generally saying that there's a corporate world government taking control of nation states

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Like the bricks and everything else and people are waking up

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So they want to demonize that and say you can't talk to this guy

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Because he's so evil and he's so bad. There was nothing in that answer. I love that

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There's nothing I literally just asked you is there anything

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Disagree I think he by

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Like Oh No by virtue of his answer, you know that the question that was asked

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Do you take responsibility for anything? The answer is no. Well, I think he has answered that question. I kind of disagree

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I almost think that in his twisted way

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the reason that his brain goes directly to Sandy Hook is that's him finally being like

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Yeah, Sandy Hook this whole thing is my fault. What I really don't understand is why it's not going away. No

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No, no, no, no, no is going away. I've talked about so much shit for I've talked

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I've lied about all this bullshit. Why isn't this one going away? That's I said something different now

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a you're supposed to let it go that's interesting because I think that's probably true based on his like the entirety of his career like

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Any time there was blowback you just like yeah. Well, I changed my mind. I apologize. So go away

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Apologize I should be able to continue

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This I am so sorry. Yeah

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Yeah, there is there is something to that but at the same time wow, he's talking about it

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I think you're right into what as to why Sandy Hook came up into his mind. Yeah, and he brought it up unprompted

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That's because that's the only thing that he does except like this one is my one is a big yeah thing

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I fucked but at the same time the question is what is self-inflicted? What do you take?

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Responsibility for it and even in his conversation about Sandy Hook. It's someone else's fault

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It's the media lying about what I said not what I said, of course when we've gone over this ad nauseum

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He fucking literally said I didn't believe it at first

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But then I saw this Sandy Hook was a completely synthetic event. Nothing happened

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I thought kids died there, but it was all fake

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He said that on his show literally and then after that had Rob Dues uncle

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Pretending to do an investigation

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Yeah of it

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It's nonsense the idea that he's like we had some debates initially and then I was convinced it happened. I keep apologizing

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I keep saying I think it happened and that's the part where there's like a kernel of truth

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Later, he did say like I think it did happen

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Yeah, so but that's only because it was such a like what he did was so inexcusable, which is why he's mad exactly

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He he said he was sorry and he changed his position, but he's also that enough for you

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But he's also lying about what the accusations are. No one is saying that he's

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Sandy Hook families people are saying that the result of his coverage has led to their families being

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Right salted and harassed right? They're not saying that he keeps saying Sandy Hook was fake

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It's that he did perpetuate that on a massive level and furthermore he is incapable of

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Recognizing the difference. Well, there's definitely that the recognizing the difference between the behavior and the event

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So he thinks that people are mad at him about the event

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Yeah, so look I said that Sandy Hook was a false flag and I changed my mind on that now

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I can continue calling other shit false flags, right? Because it's just the event that you are mad at, right?

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I call any event a false flag

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This is all a false flag like the behavior is the issue not the that it was Sandy Hook specifically

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It's it's still an issue. If you say OKC is a false flag. That's still a problem. It's a good point, you know

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Yeah, he doesn't see the forest for the trees. So

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Um Patrick is sort of trying to get Alex to answer that question. He's just clearly unwilling to not happen

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Not happen, but at the same time I think we gave it short shrift a little bit

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I love him being like there's nothing in that there's nothing that most people who talk to Alex would never say yeah

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I think that overtly what are you doing? Yeah, so I respect that. He's a man who runs his own multi-level marketing scheme

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He expects the truth from his underlings

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Yeah, so Patrick at this point tries to sort of change tactics and asks him Alex about the idea of

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Sensationalizing things tries that approach. Yeah, we'll see how that goes

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Sometimes in the world of sales and maybe this will make sense on the question. I'm trying to ask

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Sometimes in the world of sales when I work with the people in the world of sales

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There are people who sell a product in the world of sales

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Let's just say the product is good enough for me to get the features and benefits. Here's what I'm selling Alex

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I

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Hold on

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You have to take you have to take your awareness that he's a MLM

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Okay, because I think that the metaphor he's making is actually really yeah

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No, I'm just I'm just worried that he's about to start selling me on his life insurance bullshit

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No, no, no, he's gonna talk about a house. Okay as a metaphor and I like I said, I you like this metaphor

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I don't respect the man, but I like his the way he's trying to get Alex to understand his point

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All right, sure some benefits. Here's what I'm selling Alex

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I have a house four-bedroom three-bathroom corner cul-de-sac kids safety good private schools, etc, etc

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And then I say but this house underneath it

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There's a 63% chance that there's oil and you can be a billionaire

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Do you ever think you go from just selling the idea which already makes a lot of sense?

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You're making me think then from there you going to let me sensationalize and you get yourself in trouble doing that

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Do you ever feel like you've done it where it's gone in trouble?

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Oh, I think there's no doubt that I've covered internet sensations

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And then the media says that Wow created that sensation just because I cover the sensation

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You know, what do you sensationalize yourself? Are you sensationalizing yourself? There's a big difference

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So I can give a presentation and God knows how many people I've sold over the years and I know when I sensationalize sometimes

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Have you your subconscious of saying?

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Shit to get maybe a sponsorship maybe something, you know

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I know this thing's gonna get two million views versus two hundred twenty thousand views

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Let me sensationalize because in a marketing aspect, you know propagandists work, you know, you know

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I'll be honest. I don't ever think sit there think about what's gonna be successful

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I go with what I think is true and I've

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Questioned public events and I've done things like that

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boo

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boo, wow, that was the

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Furthest overhead. I think a metaphor has ever flew. Mm-hmm that metaphor was

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The cruising at 30,000 feet above where Alex could understand it

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It also so demonstrative of why it's useless to interview Alex

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Yeah, like that is a really good way to put it in

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Yeah way a baby would understand the metaphor like it's a very simple thing to say like I

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You're trying to sell me this house. The house has merits on its own

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I'm interested in that house, but you're lying to me about the oil underneath it to sell the sold house

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Yeah, it do you think you do that ever? I'm interested in the truth. This apple is delicious. It's golden. It's crunchy

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Also one out of every three people who eats it lives forever. I

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Just wanted an apple dude. I didn't need the sold me. Can I go on Apple? Can I get can I live forever though?

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Well, I mean, let's hold on in three one in three. Yeah, so

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Alex will not stop talking about Sandy Hook. Although

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Patrick isn't really prompting him too much. He's responding to what Alex talks about and it's so

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Fascinating to watch this as it goes along because Alex blames everybody but himself for the situation. Yeah

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So then this happens and the guys on Prozac and he's being protected

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He has a psychopath thing to do and then the internet

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You know always anomalies. Mm-hmm. So I start looking at the anomalies and I'm looking at him and I'm saying is that true?

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Is this true? So we debate those

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And then about a year or so after I start saying to people that are saying I'm covering up because I'm saying I thought it

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Happened bullshit. Yeah, I start saying no, I think it happened

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And then it becomes this whole debate and then reporters come to me and they say tell us what you think really happened

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What are the anomalies and then I say the anomalies even though I've already proven those anomalies aren't

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What they say they are no I'm saying I believe Santa could happen

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Here are the anomalies then they sue me for saying what the anomalies are

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Cutting off that I say it happened. It's a way to like suck the oxygen out of the room

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I literally one tenth of a billionth of what I've done a sandy hook. Yeah, and now it's constant sandy hook

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I can't you know, I got 15 more topics that I

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Know this goes the only question but you haven't answered so I think it can simplify if you just say here's an argument

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Are you saying we see the best and the hook was staged and the people that walk that they were at?

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No, I believe Sandy happened, but the government has something to do. No, I believe Sandy hook happened

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I believe kids got killed at Sandy hook and then the public questioned it

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I analyzed that and I apologize that people taking out of context what I question

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Oh, you could apologize the media use it to try to hurt families. So I apologize for the whole way. It's worked. So

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No, I don't think okay, so that's but okay, so that's great I

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Mean, that's sad. That was so sad. Well, that's the I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings when you like

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Sorry, you feel bad for the thing. I did that was totally fine for me to do. Yeah. Yeah, I completely destroyed your house

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I'm sorry that you feel bad about that. Yeah, that's basically what he's doing. This is such a cowardly dodge

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Predicated on him building it up by lying about what he did with Sandy hook, right? This is not true at all

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He's not legally like in jeopardy about the things he did that are truly bad

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yeah, but that's because the statute of limitations is up on that stuff on the defamation that he clearly did and

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We've gone over right. He's lying about that because he knows he's in safe harbor legally and

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Trying to present it as like the media lied about what I did and I'm sorry

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They did that to you. Yeah when he did that to them

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Yeah, now, of course, he didn't create the idea that Sandy hook was fake probably

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But he amplified it intensely. Yeah, and that's what he does with these things

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Yeah, original ideas aren't his stock and trade. No, no, no, that's why he's an MLM middleman now

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And that's why all of the things that he's done that have made him a bunch of money are other people's ideas

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He stole the Hillary for prison bumper sticker from someone else. Yep. He stole the idea that

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1776 2.0 worldwide. Yeah some European guy that he met he's stolen all of these things in order to co-opt them into his

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Enter his empire. Yeah, he's like Disney. Yeah. Anyway, fuck this guy. Fuck it

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it's

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What I'm fascinated by listening to this is that I hear the backstory of what's the name of the doctor who lost her medical license?

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of Rebecca Carley, yeah, yeah that backstory of

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Everything was going great. Like she was really really successful

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She became this really really good surgeon and then there was this moment that broke her

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Uh-huh, you know like this is what I'm hearing with Alex is that somehow everything that he's done was going great

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And then he's broken now. And so as his life continues every conversation is gonna just gonna be like, oh, yeah

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You know, I'm doing pretty alright, but man

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I didn't say that Sandy Hook was fake and everyone's like, oh we're doing this shit again

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Like until he isolates himself like he's fixating on this. It's also a hard extent

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It's also equivalent to the drunk at the bar like at the corner bar who's like I could have been something. Yeah

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Yeah, I almost made the show. I almost made the big leagues

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I got a school but then I got coffee in the 70s and then I had Tommy John and I just never came back exactly

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and maybe 1% of those stories you hear are true and then the others are creating a

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Hero narrative about why you aren't what you think you should be right and you think other people think you should be right?

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It's all very you know other people who are that shouldn't be it's ego driven. It's jealousy. It's

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Lack of responsibility. It's all of those things to a pathetic level. So now at this point

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Patrick wants to discuss the idea of Alex not being able to use social media anymore and the idea that that's going to

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Cripple his reach and really hurt his business. Yeah, so in order to facilitate this

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Conversation Patrick brings up that a couple years ago. He lost his voice for 90 days

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He had a condition like a polyp or something in his throat and he wasn't able to talk and as a salesperson

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as a person who runs a business that is incredibly difficult and so he's trying to use that as a metaphor for Alex to

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Open up about the idea of speech and the ability to get your ideas across

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Uh-huh. Alex is not so interested in that but he is

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This personal moment that could become a flowering of conversation Alex isn't too interested in that well

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I mean, he's not like so like totally dismissive of it

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But he you can tell the booze is kicking in in this clip and just to give you some context right before this

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Alex grabbed an apple from the table and took a big old bite from it

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So here's here's what he says

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Why it's very fragile

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If I can't speak, what do I do? So today if

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five I

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Want to start that over

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Because he's talking with a mouthful of Apple

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All right, here we go from the top

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Why it's very fragile right if I can't speak what do I do so today if

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If five billion views are gone, how is Alex Jones feeling today?

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On YouTube not including everything else

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the 16 million

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iTunes subscribers all the oh boy. I feel good

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because I'm on a sellout and

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I'm a trailblazer and people project who I am they lie about me all day

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But we've never had more hardcore listeners, and I'm just I just believe humanity. I'm betting on humanity

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Hey Alex, you're drunk. I think we're gonna interview really strong men of what I've said

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Hammers off try to sell the public. No. I mean you can keep talking

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They think if he could demonize Alex okay guys everybody wrap it up

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He denies everybody else boom Mike out of here and once they accept destroying him

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Yeah, make sure the lights back return nobody else, so they're

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You have a good night, but they differ doing him. That's the first of two times that Patrick responds to something

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Nonsensical that Alex says like you really believe that yeah, which is nice. That's a nice thing so yeah

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I mean that is just like

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Yeah, they come to me they cut me off. They're gonna cut all of you off. Yeah

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That was that was too drunk. Yeah, that was too drunk, and it doesn't get better

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So now I will say I I don't know if I can if I can ever hear life is fragile in any other

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run

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Let's hear that again real quick. Why is very fragile?

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That's just the best way for it to be said

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It's really the only way to say dismissively through a mouthful of fruit. I'm very fragile

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You know so Alex seems to be fine with being kicked off social media, so Patrick follows that up by asking him

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Do you want to get back on social media?

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Would you ever want to be?

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You know figuring out a way to be let you know be back on these social media platforms

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Or you're okay, if they never ever let you back on again. Are you okay with that never again? I'm Alex

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I'm Alex Jones. I'm never changing whether you take me back or not. I am never changing the single way

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I do anything. I don't care if I'm ever back on it. Is that where you're at today. Well obviously

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They're like 90% of the internet obviously I want back on that. Oh

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but

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They misrepresent everything I've said done. It's like Jack Dorsey went on a month ago on

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NBC

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CNN ABC all of he went on with Lester Holt and those are olds like

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Jones says he wants to kill the media with assault rifles

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Dorsey goes

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Jack Dorsey those I know it's horrible, but he can stay that's defending you. I never said that

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So but Dorsey the first time he defended you to do that was all like acting like he was I talked to folks that were

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In the meeting with him when I confronted

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Marco Rubio who walked up to the press conference

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Jack Dorsey said oh my god now. He's been mean to a Republican. This is how dumb they are now

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I can ban him

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Who told you that are you assuming that I don't know those people know if you weren't meeting no

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People in the meeting telling you that now that you're going after Marco Rubio

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This is an opportunity for Dorsey to ban. I talked to folks that were in the meeting with

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Check Dorsey

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Jack does oh, I can understand Alex Jones down. I just wanted for Republican. That's how dumb they are

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This is sad. That's bad. Yeah, they're they're elements. You are Alex

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I know that I told you before we started recording that this

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The content that we're covering has the potential to be incredibly sad or incredibly hilarious, and it turns out it's both

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Simultaneously both that to me is a very very sad glimpse at like I know people who are at the Twitter meeting

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Yeah, you don't yeah, that's nonsense

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You've created and constructed a reason why people took action against you after you did X Y or Z

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You've decided that the best way to frame it is I went after a Republican and that gives them cover

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To attack me. Yeah, because you've already painted all of your enemies as being left-leaning

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I don't know communist socialist

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Authoritarians, so this this interview should almost be like part of a training tape for how to

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Interrogate psychopaths sure like going through like listen to all these like look you think you constructed a great question

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You think that you've got something that he's gonna have to answer you need to understand that with the psychopath

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They're not interested in talking to you know you are just there

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Yeah, so here's how you try and trick psychopaths into saying what you want them to say

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Yeah, like if you if you listen to his answers

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There's so much to be gleaned from like psychopath language, and how you respond to like human language

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Just like him saying like of course. I want to be let back on these

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Platforms even though yes, I have said many times that if they kicked me off

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That's the right thing, and I'm only more better for it. Yeah, I'm better for it, but of course

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I want that I want back on so much. Yeah, but I don't want back on I

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Just want them to apologize to me and tell me that I'm right right. Yeah, there's a you know

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There's a deep psychological thing that's going on that

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I mean I don't actually begrudge Patrick for not going too far down that road because it could get

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Way out of his depth. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but

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He tries he like like I said like earlier. He tried to reframe the question

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About sensationalism in terms you understand and now at this point. He tries to bring back the question

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He'd already asked about like why haven't other people who say similar things to you

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Why aren't they banned and Alex has again no answer for this?

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Beck used to be the main guy to watch on Fox him and O'Reilly would go at it

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And he was coming up, and he would get up, and he would do his shows and I was on Beck one time

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And he would show all this other stuff. You know yeah, he was like yeah

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Roll the truck yeah, and Hitler did this and you know and everybody's oh my gosh

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This could be a conspiracy, and it's tight you know and even rush, but these guys haven't been banned off Twitter

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These guys haven't been banned off YouTube you've been banned

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Is he acting like Colombo right now? Let me ask you one more thing. Why do you think it is?

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Why is it sure as hell is it because they say I question Sandy Hook? No, I don't think that's the only thing no

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It's because I cover the geopolitical system, and how they're setting up a world government and how they want eugenics and depopulation

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And how the Chinese have merged with our big tech companies and take over the US. That's why

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And you believe that a hundred percent

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So how come the rest of the guys are not off

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Why is Beck not off Beck is Beck is not a guy that they agree with why is Limbaugh not off?

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Why is Milo still back on and Milo may be one of the most annoying social media guys?

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Why do you think how bad I

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I think I think it's over selling so again that comes back to the sensationalizing of stuff

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And he'll explain more what he believes about that yeah in later clips, but like

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Milo is back on and I think he's the worst thing in the history of the world. I believe he's wrong about that though

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I think Patrick's wrong about that miles not back on Twitter

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No, no, but I think he's still well it could be he's actually smilow be Annapolis. I think he's I think he's still on Facebook

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that's

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Irrelevant the the question he's asking is one that Alex can't answer without

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You know

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These people that say very similar things to you are not in trouble

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the only thing you can fall back on is like they take me out so they can eventually take them out and

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When that doesn't happen and when people are just like no, it's your actions that caused this that argument falls apart

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But see his better angle here is to be like the answer is money

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I don't make the powers that be money smart like who makes who makes money whenever Hannity makes money

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I'll tell you what at least one or two globalists well

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No, cuz that argument falls apart with Beck because he started his own shit

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You know he started the blaze that failed, but he's not on why did it fail or?

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Globalist globalist he's not on Fox News or any of those like main platforms anymore

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So like the idea that like that argument would even fall apart on further analysis

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Yeah, but you're at the very least. It's you have to do some further analysis than his answer right now, which is right

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I'm mad if you accept that answer and not like you don't go further with it

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What you're doing is just saying like well the audience. I hope they can see through this

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There's nowhere else to really go with it exactly let's move on

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You don't want him drunkenly storming out of the interview right maybe you do

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Marin and Gallagher moment yeah exactly so in this next clip

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This is where I think the booze is really getting good to Alex, and he gets super cocky about things. He knows

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Okay, for instance you say something like this you say I'm telling you folks nerds are one of the most dangerous groups in this

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Country because they end up running things, but they still hate everybody because they weren't the jocks in high school

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He's reading an Alex Jones quote yeah, and this is under the like sort of still the conversation is about Alex sensationalized

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Yes, so they play little dirty games on everybody. They use their brains to hurt people, and I'm aware of them, okay

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I see you little rats. Okay. You say something like that, so I sit there, and I say

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Interesting fair enough. That's actually not a bad point. I remember are you sure that was a nerd 4.3 GPA

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He didn't have any girls

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I wanted to get with them so he probably didn't get late till he was 22

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So he says I'm gonna go out there and become so successful because this not a bad point fair, okay

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I'll take that right

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But then you'll take that and you really should just take that trying to do what he's doing in Africa

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And he's trying to do do this, and you know he's not really somebody that's making and then you'll take it even deeper

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And so I sit there, and I say okay. Let me go research Bill Gates

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Maybe he's got a point here, so I'll go and do research hypothetically somebody. That's a reader somebody likes to research

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Somebody that's not a naive viewer. That's just gonna jump to conclusion. I do not want those people come on

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Let's see your sensation allies. You're like come on. Oh my god

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Bill Gates his dad headed up the army program on eugenics and was the head of Planned Parenthood

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and he went on Bill Maher and said we need to reduce world population I

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Got all the clips man yeah, but Alex you take it to a point where the media sitting there saying a guy

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Okay, a naive mind can hear to some listen to somebody like you and you can really mess with a naive mind

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a

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Naive mind who is not gonna. Did you hear me?

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You know about Cold Springs Harvard

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Tell me about it. I mean Bill Gates his dad ran it

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Okay, IBM run

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So that is the main human genome eugenics Center all right all right the whole deal it

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They trained the the the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, there's Pulitzer Prize winning books

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They have it all now for sure Alex. What is you keep asking? Why are they after me? No because I read the books

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I've got their plan Alex if you know everything that you say you know and you got their plans. Why are you still alive?

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Well, they're murdering my name. They're assessing me

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Yeah, but you've said Hillary Clinton's you know her client goes, and you know all these people that get close to her

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So if you're opposing the most powerful

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Democrat in a marketplace that you say because they thought I was a joke

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The way he says that is so forced that thought I was a joke

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It is kind of him. I think coming to terms with

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How he was viewed yeah a long time, but then at the same time. He's using a

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He got so much mileage out of people thinking he's a joke

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Yeah, and I in the best thing for him is when people think he's a joke in the same way like the room

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You know like yeah, you can pretend. It was a satirical farce or whatever, but that's that's

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Repurposing the response that people had to it in order to pretend. I was doing that all along

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Yeah, this Alex is doing the same thing and he will

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Throughout this the idea of like they thought I was a joke which is what I was using in order to fly under the radar

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Right it's like no you weren't that's absolutely not what you were doing now

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You were a joke the stuff about our job the stuff about Cold Springs Harbor recovered in our endgame coverage

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I don't want to go back and go over all that it's no cuz we're gonna have to do another documentary soon

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Yeah, so go back and listen to that if you want to understand go back into listen to that 12 hours of our day

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nine, but like

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That's me saying no

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But like I

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Don't know that was very dumb like all that's just very dumb and him throwing out very broad vague

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Things to defend like I got all this I got all this when when you have someone like Bill Gates

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Talking about how the population should be reduced. He's not talking about killing people

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Yeah, he's not talking about putting something into vaccines to kill everyone

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He's talking about the holding capacities for resources in various parts of the world and how a lot of places are overburdened by

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massive populations that are not

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Sustainable now the other flip side of that is if you want to have the conversation about like well

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They would be if we didn't treat the rest of the world like they're shit, right?

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You know like that the conversation is much more reasonable and much more based in

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human

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Humanity. Yeah, you know the idea that like oh no, you know parts of Africa

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They could have the amount of children that they do if we didn't hoard all of the money and didn't have a history of stealing

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All their resources. Yeah generation could say that there is

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There's a better conversation to have about that than this stupid idea. He has about Bill Gates wants to kill off everybody, right?

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Mosquito drones or whatever the fuck you well, what's interesting is that he asked a question that essentially inoculated himself from the answer

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What do you mean a vaccine? Yeah, the question just being like you can fuck up a naive mind

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Yeah, which if you're capable of asking that question suggests that you do not have a naive mind, right?

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So don't come at me with this weak bullshit. Mm-hmm, you know, but that's

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That is saying are you taking advantage of stupid people or are you believing your bullshit?

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But that's why Alex has to come back with do you know about Cold Springs?

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Exactly, he has to come up with something that he is reasonably assured that the person he's talking to doesn't know about right

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It's the same reason why fine Alex tell me about Cold Springs Harbor

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Well, it's the same reason why when he was on Rogan's podcast and he was losing an argument about

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The chemtrails he had to pull out subsection 50

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501 section or Niner, right?

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He had to pull that out because he knows that Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan don't know that subsection

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He can use it to lie about it right and pretend that he's an authority on information

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He did the exact same thing and pretend that he's answering the question right when he's really

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Changing the subject entire and I will give Patrick credit for being like, okay. Yeah

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Oh

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Yeah, all right, but now is where Alex gets fucking dark

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This is where the the interview turns because I think he recognized in it what you pointed out the like

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You're dangerous to naive minds. It does lead Alex to realize that like

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Maybe Patrick isn't going to go along with everything. I'm saying

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Yeah, he's already shown that maybe he's not and now it's just like maybe I've just got to preach and so he starts preaching

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And it's fucking dark as hell. They thought I was a joke like a poison. I titrated it

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Hey, that was a job like God worked. It wasn't me. We built up. They thought it was a joke

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They use us against Trump

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They kept thinking they were winning and now when the poison the truth is so strong when the big dose hits them

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They already have figure it out. And so I'm just over there. I'm the globalist lethal injection and I'm ready to die

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So let's just be clear. I've already won

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This is all gravy from this point on so they are Marty in the system. I've already won and

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They thought it was a joke and now they just took their death dose

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Really? I'm gonna kill the new ruler

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That's why they call me violent. Well, they hate me not physically hurt anybody but the information is ever that guy you kill him

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It's their end of days

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You think so? No one can reverse it now. Yeah. No, it's true because humanity was like a terrorist and

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They're the ones doing this. I studied their papers. I studied their program and you asked why they're so afraid

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they're so afraid because

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I've got their number and I'm not afraid to die. So

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That's it

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Answers your question. So that's where your ads who cares if you ever get back on social media

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I don't you really don't the message the transmission everything else now is gravy

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Earlier, he said he wanted to get back on social media

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But he wants to get back station has gone down this dark road about being willing to die

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I mean now I don't want to get back on social media now that we've gone down this road

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Of course about that. What if they let you back on social? Well, of course, I want to get back on social

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Right at the same time. I don't well, yeah, but if I did I do but I don't but I don't

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Yeah, that's a one of only a number of times Alex contradicts himself to a rampant degree

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So I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's kind of exactly the same as that last one

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He meant he's talking about how like I've completed my mission. Yeah, he really does have like that

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apocalyptic

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Like the two people who restart the evolutionary process at the end of a movie, you know

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Where it's like they're they're both and they hit a button and it's like they die

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We did it and then the world reboots or whatever shit it is

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Oh, I I have a theory about that and this is a little bit dark and I apologize for it

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But I got a Canadian TV show reboot is actually gonna be good when it's rebooted. I think Alex might kill himself

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You think so? Yeah, I don't think so I do

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Based on the I don't I'm not saying that he's going to but I wouldn't be surprised if he did

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Yeah based on the level of like his life is a fucking mess

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Yeah, and not just because of the Trump political stuff

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Oh, no the whole thing like he is probably going to be successfully sued by a number of people

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Just like as we're recording this his PayPal has been taken away

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Yeah, his ability to process payments through PayPal. There's a really decent chance that his ex-wife is going to win that custody case

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Yeah, I don't know cuz it we'd have no reason to know what's going on with that

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But let's imagine a scenario where he ends up losing custody of his children PayPal goes away. He's not allowed on social media

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He's a multi-level marketing scheme guy

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Who's just on the outermost fringes of stuff?

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I think that there's a decent chance that what he's doing is largely laying the groundwork

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For him to become the next in the line of people he's talked about on his own show people like Andrew Breitbart

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Who Alex lies and says was murdered when he had a fucking heart attack?

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Cuz yeah already had a heart attack was way out of shape and was doing tons of blow. Yeah

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The DC madam who've absolutely killed herself

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and Alex pretends was murdered by the globalists all of the people he

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Uses Larry Nichols to back up being Arkin cited. Yeah killed by the Clintons

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Yeah, Gary Webb who very clearly killed himself who Alex pretends is murdered

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I think that there's a decent chance that what we're witnessing is the propaganda campaign towards his death

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now at the same time I recognize that he has such a massive ego and is not really

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Like the idea of killing yourself to further your own narrative is also kind of involves self-sacrifice

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Because you are dead. Yeah, you can't enjoy the

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People lying about your death. Yeah, so it does kind of not match his psychology

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But the way he's behaving really really scares me

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It's very troubling on a certain level because that is a path I could see this going down

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I mean, I see him self-destructing. I don't see him like, okay

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No, so here's here's it's possible to yeah

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Yeah, I see him more like isis that he's such a drunk at this

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Yeah that he knows eventually I'm gonna fall down the stairs. So I might as well

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Yeah, I might as well lay the groundwork of if anything happens to me. I do it

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No, I was drunk one night and I tripped and I fell off a bridge and I drowned in a puddle

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I achieved my mission and no matter what happens the globalists are yet to find out

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Yeah, they find out the problem. This is all gravy hiccup. Yeah, I worry about that

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I'm not entirely sure and it'd be super irresponsible to say like that is what's going to happen

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But I feel shades of I would never to hurt myself

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From someone who is preparing to hurt themselves. I hope that's not the case and I hope it's

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Well, once again, I think our ultimate

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Advice to Alex is a get some help get talk to somebody talk to somebody please there is help available

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You're hurting yourself and your kids. Yeah, like this is not okay

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Yeah

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As much as we fucking despise you for real go talk to a professional if all like fuck you but your kids don't deserve this

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Yeah, and I know that the people's personal lives are not like on the table for us to discuss

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But it would be irresponsible for us to not recognize that like like if he was a swinging bachelor

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I don't think I would care now. I would not care but his actions affect people who don't have any

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Reason to be hurt. Yeah, you know, there are so many people who are the human aftermath

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No, if Gavin McGinnis was doing this interview, I'd be like, oh sweet kill yourself. Oh my god, kill yourself so much

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Gavin has children to kill yourself. Okay. Well, I'd still say that

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And all of his children are the paramilitary knights of

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Um, so that that's all dark and I don't I don't know how grounded it is, but it's something I'm afraid of

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Hey everybody Dan here

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Sorry, I just had to butt in because there's a little bit of a situation when I was trying to record this episode with Jordan

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There was one clip that didn't upload into my iTunes where I play all the clips from and unfortunately we missed it now

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Normally, this would be a situation where I would say

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Hey, you know, that's too bad

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We missed one thing that you know is relevant to talk about but unfortunately

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This clip is actually a pretty major piece of what?

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Adds to the darkness of this element of this interview and so it kind of be incomplete for us to talk about this episode

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Without this clip being a part of it. Unfortunately, I'm sitting here now adding this piece in without Jordan here

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And maybe that's for the best actually because I think Jordan would never stop screaming after hearing this

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This clip but here it is Alex Jones talking about how he has taken his licks

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And he needs to take his licks for going up against the globalists

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Everything else now is gravy

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Everything else is just getting ready to meet God whatever be a real man. I gotta take my licks. I'm ready

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Everything else now take my licks. Is that why you miss my kids got to take the licks

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My family's got to take the licks. I gotta take the licks. I'm ready to take the licks. Let's get it going there

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Somebody with God forever. It doesn't matter anymore

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I'm taking my licks

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G that's how God works. It's not just a system where

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Everybody's a coward and sells out. No, there's people that aren't cowards

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There's people that are dedicated to the truth and are rated all the way and not just put themselves in the line

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But their whole families

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so

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You got three kids Alex got four you got four kids

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Yeah, I thought you had 10 to 15 year old right and with 10 to 15 year old

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I got a 16 month old right up to the 16 year old

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16 months old right up to 60 and there's no this

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Exterminus program is anti-human and if I don't do this, they have no future anyways

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and that's the liberating understanding is that if I don't commit to the truth and

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Take this they have no future

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So what you have here is Alex Jones very clearly expressing that he is willing to put his family in

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very serious danger for the beliefs that he has

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now I

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Don't know how to talk about this necessarily other than to say that this is a incredibly ugly and irresponsible

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This is terrible parenting

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This is the sort of thing that I think should be played in his custody hearings because as you hear

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He's expressing that

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My kids are going to have to take their licks

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which is

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Mm-hmm. I don't know. I don't know what to say about it other than I'm glad Jordan's not here again because he would be

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Absolutely furious about that. Anyway back to the show

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But in this next clip Alex

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Is forced to talk about pizza gate a little bit Patrick brings up pizza gate and there's something I really interesting

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I really want you to track here and that is the difference in the way that Alex talks about the WikiLeaks on his own show

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And in this interview with Patrick, I'm on fire. Wait, you've seen nothing

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Yeah, I've seen nothing. So this whole thing with pizza gate theory none of the stuff that you have

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They well the Catholic Church running giant pedophile rings that's confirmed

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And the fact that was in the WikiLeaks that there were these giant child kidnapping rings

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NBC ABC CNN they

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Focused on a pizza place in DC to divert everyone like a broken, you know

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Like a mockingbird the mother acts like it's wings broken

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So we had it all like the kids are gonna be in the hot tub and Obama wants the hot dogs

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$65,000 worth we were covering that and

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Then they diverted off to DC and people covered it and I said, oh, yeah, that's not what was going on

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So they go. Oh my god, that affiliate doesn't exist

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so the way the way he talks about it when he's on his own show is to say like

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Juicy hot dogs juicy succulent hot dogs and then when he talks about that hot tub

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One he's like these kids are so willing

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They're they might resist but they want to have fun like all that stuff which isn't in the WikiLeaks

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He's he's strictly speaking on this. He's accurately presenting things

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he's not making the same insinuations that he does on his own broadcast because he knows that he's not talking to the same people and

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He has been shown that Patrick isn't going to give him the same leeway that he expects right from his own audience

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right if he had said like yeah, and the WikiLeaks said that Obama wanted all these succulent juicy young hot dogs, right he would have

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been like

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Really?

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Okay. Well, no, he just said hot dogs if you drive down Lawrence Avenue here in Chicago, Illinois

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You will pass. I don't remember the name of the place, but there is a hot dog joint there that has painted on their wall

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Provider of hot dogs to the White House. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll see

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Yeah, that's an elaborate scam if it's all about male prostitute. Hey, what are you gonna do hot dog place?

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Literally, I've never been in there. I don't know. I have but have you did you bring a gun with it? I did suck a guy such crazy nonsense, but he's much closer to what the actual emails say yeah, and it's intentional. It's not yeah. Yeah, so in this next clip Alex just sort of rambles about how great he is. He is great and what I'm saying is is that

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I'm dead already. I already passed the River Styx. So everything I'm doing now this is the kamikaze mission. People think humanity just takes this stuff. No, the spirit of humanity manifests itself in resistance. And so that's what's happened. It's not about it's not about me. It's about what do we do to Hollywood? What do we do the corrupt blue blood republicans?

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What do we do the Democrats? What do we do to let them know we're still alive? And that's what I've done. It doesn't mean you know that things don't get a little messy in this thing. Grandpa, we just want to check in little kids define messy. I didn't watch the wars that killed millions of people. I didn't ship in the narcotics that killed millions of people. But how is it? I'm the bad guy. Grandpa, we're at the zoo. Talk to I'm the guy that can't be heard.

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I'm the guy that's got to be banned. There's got to be reason for it though. Well, it's because the mainstream media are good people. I mean, Apple and Google and Facebook are nice people. Grandpa, I think you're full of shit. And they're protecting you from Alex Jones. That's why these are good people. These are sweetie pies. Mark Zuckerberg, he called his users dumb fuckers, but he didn't mean that. He's a angel. He's a sweetie pie.

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And so is Nancy Pelosi. And so is Michael Moore. They're not bad people. They're good people.

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And we should just roll over because you saw what happened to Alex Jones.

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Is he going to fall asleep soon?

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So you better sit down and shut up.

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Who are you talking to?

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Do whatever we say or you're going to pay. Let's see. Some people don't care.

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Some people don't care.

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Who's some people?

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People that are awakening. The people that are about to bring this corrupt world down and build the new world up.

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Glass.

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You heard the ice there.

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Yeah, ice swirling in the glass. No big deal.

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I mean, what Patrick's doing there is almost employing the Errol Morris school of let him talk.

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Just let him keep going.

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Yeah, because Alex is...

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What do you think is going to happen next?

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They're coming for the children.

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There's some great jokes.

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Who's children? Your children. My children. Children's children.

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And we will bring humanity to the next level.

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Okay. All right.

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Wow, did he seem like he was about to fall asleep there?

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Yeah. And in this next clip, holy shit.

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The grandiosity that he's manifesting about, like the reason that they need to take me out is I'm the only threat to the literal world government.

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Yep. Yep.

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The literal... What he imagines that he's up against is a confluence of all global power.

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Yes.

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And they are so afraid of him that they need to kick him off social media.

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Right.

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When he's still allowed to get his message out through his own channels, absolutely.

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Of course.

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They don't take him out in that front at all. And this is where he might misinterpret Texas history.

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Okay.

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And then, and then...

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It was always the white man's. Whenever we came here, it was shaped exactly like Texas is shaped right now as the white man state.

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No, no, no.

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Everybody remembers that.

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No, no. This is about him thinking that he's Colonel Travis.

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Okay.

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Which is hilarious based on the truth of Colonel Travis. But then the second piece of it is that he also blasphemes.

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Of course.

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Who's backing you up right now? Who's calling you saying, hey, I'm gonna go out there and fight for you?

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The strongest thing you can do is to have nobody having your back.

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Oh, my God.

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Oh, my God.

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It's like, no, it's like...

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Are you Sauron? What's going on here?

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People fighting like 5,000, everybody dies. But they knew that was going to happen.

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They were so pissed off that when Travis drove the line in the sand, almost everybody stood across it.

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What?

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So see, these are real sacrifices.

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No, you're talking about Bugs Bunny.

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Where they do it with a little kid and all these people are gonna act powerful.

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It's about giving yourself for Christ's life.

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So it'll be remember info wars.

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It'll be remember Alex Jones when we win this and watch the next phase of human expansion.

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Do you think what you're doing right now is Christ's life?

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Yes.

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I think standing up for what's right, being fearless, and building a future is in the spirit of Christ.

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I wouldn't say it's Christ's life.

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Yeah, but he had allies.

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Right?

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I mean, even Judas let you say you backstabbed him.

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Jesus had a lot of allies, huh?

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No, out of the 12, you don't think people back them up?

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Luke, Mark, Matt, you don't think so.

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I'm asking who's on your side right now.

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That's what I'm telling you.

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My dad.

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Is that we've already changed the world.

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Buckley.

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I need to take my legs.

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Holy shit.

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That's insane.

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That is crazy.

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That is the most paranoid delusions of grandiosity I think I've ever heard in my

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entire life.

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Do you think that what you're doing is Christ-like?

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Yes.

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Well, what I'm doing is in the spirit of Christ.

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I'm not Christ-like.

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What?

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You just said-

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I drew a line in the sand and Yosemite Sam stepped over that one, so I drew another line

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in the sand and then Yosemite Sam stepped over that one and eventually I tricked him

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and he fell over the cliff.

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I mean-

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Anyways, I'm Jesus.

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The parallels with Colonel Travis are fucking real.

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I know.

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But they aren't what Alex wants them to be.

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Uh-uh. The parallels of him being a drunk fuck-up who ruined people's lives for a really

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long time and then accidentally stumbled into being at the Alamo.

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That gets very similar to Alex.

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He screwed up tons of people's lives on his path towards accidentally being in the right

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place for Roger Stone and Steve Pacanich to manipulate him into being a part of the election

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here.

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The election is his Alamo, but he's been- he didn't die.

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Yeah.

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That's basically what- he should have died.

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He really wishes he had died.

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Yes.

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He is a man who wishes for death.

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Well, it's the only thing that would really validate his narratives is him dying and that's

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why I'm kind of afraid of him hurting himself.

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Yeah, but that's why he- that's why I'm not.

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So on our last present-day episode, we noticed a couple things where Alex was completely

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invalidating his entire life philosophy where he called for federal troops to go to the

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border.

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Right.

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They should be there.

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Completely-

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No, they should be there.

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Completely counter to his state's rights.

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Put him on the other side.

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Put him on the other side.

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Draw a line in that sand.

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So there are other incidents of that, but in the next clip, like, I could not believe

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he said this.

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Mike down for this one.

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So let me flip that on you.

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Do you believe in background checks with guns?

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I believe in the Second Amendment.

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I think criminals are gonna get guns regardless, but I do think with mental health, other issues,

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as long as it's become draconian, I think a background check is probably good.

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So a background check that does maybe- if you're on prescription right now, you're taking

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Prozac, whatever it is, some of the medication lists that we have that is either for bipolar

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or whatever things that we just talked about.

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Those folks can't get a gun.

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You're okay with that?

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Here's the thing.

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30% of women are on those drugs, about 15% of men.

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And a lot of people don't act like maniacs when they're on it.

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But I say this.

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Before you restrict my right, people that are on those drugs, when the insert says it

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can make you be a killer, they should be looked at.

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I think if somebody has been diagnosed as psychotic and is on those drugs, there should

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be a database and you shouldn't be able to have a firearm.

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Or if they have a history of domestic fucking abuse, Dan!

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That's relevant too.

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But like that is so counter to Alex's beliefs.

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The idea that he's sitting with this guy and saying in any way it's okay for a background

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check, any kind of regulation about guns is so counter to his beliefs because he believes

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that gun registration is the exact same thing as taking away people's guns.

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One step towards gun control is all of the steps.

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So for him to be saying, yeah, if you were diagnosed with a mental illness, you shouldn't

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be able to have a gun.

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Because another piece of his narrative is the globalists just want to give you false

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diagnoses in order to make sure you can't have guns.

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So all of this is bullshit.

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That's so exactly the opposite of what he believes.

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But because he's sitting there with a guy who's clearly not putting up with this bullshit,

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he's having to sort of mitigate.

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He's having to come to the middle a little bit because he knows that his normal shit

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is not going to fly.

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Well, and he's drunk enough to be at that point where it's like, well, look, I mean,

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nobody's crazy.

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Of course crazy people shouldn't have guns.

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I'm not an insane person that I would say that crazy people should be allowed to have

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guns.

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You know what it is?

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You know what it is?

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I think it's that, but he's recognizing, I do believe that crazy people should have guns,

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but it's way too hard for me to defend that to someone who's going to ask a second question.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I'm just going to fucking play the middle.

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I mean, sometimes there should be, sometimes there shouldn't be.

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If there is that is offensive to me, then there shouldn't be.

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But I'm going to straight give up on all my principles because this conversation is going

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to be way too hard.

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Which is great.

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On one level, I'm like, I admire that strategy.

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It validates everything you believe and puts into question your principles as a whole.

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Yeah.

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But congratulations.

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Yeah, but you know, you go to Thanksgiving and somebody's like, ah, you know, the problem

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with the government is you're like, ah, do you know what I would like?

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Some ice cream.

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You can continue on while I eat ice cream because fucking I'm out.

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Well, there's a difference between a uncomfortable Thanksgiving conversation and a televised

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interview.

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Yeah, there is a little bit of that.

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Not on television, but it's the equivalent on modern days.

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Yeah.

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So at this point, Patrick wants to go down the road of like, he's trying to get back

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to the sensationalism stuff that Alex still hasn't really addressed.

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He's been trying to get that answer from Alex and he's not giving it.

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So he goes a different tack.

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Initially, I asked what caused this?

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Is it self inflicted?

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You know, is it something that happened?

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Is there a blind spot?

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Is there a blind spot?

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Like, you know, a lot of times in business, you know, entrepreneurs, business people have

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blind spots.

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They're reckless in certain areas.

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They're reckless with gambling.

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They're reckless with this.

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Answer it.

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Do you think one of the blind spots for you is sometimes you get so excited and animated

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and your energy, like your words, they come out so fast because your brain is going a

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million miles an hour that sometimes you catch yourself overselling something?

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Oh, definitely.

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I'll tune in.

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Thank you!

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Last week, I was talking about how Anderson Cooper had pushed the Arab Spring.

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And I taped the show, that Sunday show I taped, usually it's a live show, but I taped it.

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I'm in the hot tub with my kids at my parents' house about to go eat dinner.

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And I hear myself say, Tucker Carlson pushed the CIA invasion of the Arab Spring and he's

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a jerk.

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And I'm like, that was Anderson Cooper.

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And I literally called Anderson Cooper and I said, you probably won't hear about it,

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but I apologize.

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He said, oh, he thought it was funny.

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But yeah, no, I totally sometimes, like, you hear your rebroadcast, you're like, God, I'm

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an idiot.

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And when you're not all calculating, you get things wrong sometimes.

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So definitely I get things wrong sometimes.

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99% of the time I'm right, though.

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How was that saying that?

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Were you okay saying that?

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Are you okay?

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Well, no, no.

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Can I get things wrong?

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That's true.

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Am I fundamentally trying to get things wrong?

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Are you?

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Because when I'm sitting there, I hear myself say something that's totally BS.

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I'm like, wow.

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You know what double talk is, right?

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Ooh, good question.

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Oh, that is a devastating question.

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He's kind of becoming therapy to some extent.

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That is devastating.

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He's like, is this okay?

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Are you okay?

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No, if I heard my therapist say that after I said something, he was just like, how did

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that feel saying that?

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I've been like, fuck you.

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I am out of this shit.

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Fuck you with that.

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Don't come at me with this motherfucker.

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How did it feel to say that shit?

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Fuck you.

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Fuck you.

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I'm out of here.

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Sometimes it's a relevant question.

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It is a relevant question in this case, especially.

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So the other thing too is that like, I think you buried the lead and that is that he's

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sitting in a hot tub with his kids listening to his own show.

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I know.

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I really don't know why that was okay.

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I don't know why that's okay.

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I would never listen to my own show out loud.

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There's never a time.

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Good God, no.

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I barely want to listen to the show after we record it and I edit it and stuff like

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that, but like if I do headphones, baby.

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Oh yeah.

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I can't imagine the idea of being caught by someone like listening to my own show.

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Oh no.

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Legitimately, anytime somebody asks me in person like, uh, what show do you do?

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I'm like, oh, don't, don't, don't worry about it.

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No, no, no, no.

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And then also all of his, all of his kids are under 16.

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So like the idea that he's playing his own show for them in a hot tub and his parents

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hot tub, gross.

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It's just, it's a fucking mess.

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You know, like even if, look, if LeBron James told a story where he was hanging out with

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his kids watching highlights of the 2017 NBA finals, I'd be like, that's still gross.

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That's still gross.

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Yeah.

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At least he's not espousing racism during the game.

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Speaking of which, LeBron's going to come back.

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How is LeBron going to come back up?

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He's going to come up.

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All right.

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So in that clip, Alex has taken responsibility only for mixing up Anderson Cooper and Tucker

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Carlson's name.

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Also, did he, did he say that he called Anderson Cooper?

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He meant to say Tucker Carlson.

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Oh, okay.

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It's pretty clear that he meant to say, I called Tucker and apologized for mixing you

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up with Anderson Cooper, but he said Anderson Cooper when he said he called.

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In the process of talking about a situation where he mixed up Tucker Carlson and Anderson

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Cooper, he mixed up Tucker Carlson and Anderson Cooper.

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That threw me for a loop when I first heard it as well.

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Like you didn't call Anderson Cooper, but I do believe he could call Tucker.

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So I think that's what he's talking about.

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So he's willing to take responsibility for mixing up base facts in terms of like, I got

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the name wrong or something like that.

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And Patrick pushes back.

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I made a statement, but no one knows.

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I made a double talk, safe statement.

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I don't think it's double talk to say sometimes I get somebody's name completely wrong.

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Not name.

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No, no, not name.

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I'm talking sensationalizing something.

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I'm talking here's what happened, but let me tell you what else Hillary did.

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Let me tell you what else Barack did.

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Let me tell you what else, you know, Bush or 9-11.

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Let me tell you what else.

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And then you take it to hold it like that.

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Just say it's a seven.

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It's a crisis.

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You take it 11.

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Undoubtedly, I've exaggerated.

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But usually it's like the opposite.

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Okay.

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So Alex, you have exaggerated things.

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So wait, wait.

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In a question where he explains, do you know what double talk is?

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Alex then goes, of course I've done this, but I don't do that.

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Most of the time I under exaggerate.

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Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

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I'm telling you, I know exactly why this guy is good at running a multi-level marketing

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scheme.

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He is shrewd and fucking direct.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I, I, this is two hours long.

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I've cut out a lot of like him just sort of, there's a lot of meandering.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of, there's a number of times that he goes down the wrong avenue.

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Ah, you know, but I still can see what he's trying to do.

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And like, I get, I get the point of this question, but it's kind of like, eh, you're, you're

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dealing with Alex Jones.

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This is the wrong task.

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See, he's a, but he's a salesman though.

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Yeah.

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This guy is definitely doing all of the, he's doing all of the salesman tricks of like,

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Oh, poke a little bit here.

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You don't like that.

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Well, I'll come back to that later once I've softened you up over here and then I'll poke

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you over here again.

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And Oh, you're not ready for that yet, but that's no big deal.

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He's a plate spinner.

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Exactly.

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You got to keep this one going over here, then right here, you spin that right.

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Starting to slow down.

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Right.

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And exactly what you're talking about.

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Pizza gate came up earlier.

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Now it comes back up and it is much more problematic this time around because Alex has just admitted

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that he exaggerates.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Let's just say I'm a true believer in Alex Jones and what he says.

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Cause a lot of people are, you've got a big following and suddenly you say, if this is

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wrong, this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Then somebody goes and shoots outside.

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Let's talk about that.

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Let's talk about it.

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Let's talk about it.

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We have the WikiLeaks in New York, all devil worship, Aleister Crowley stuff.

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It's in there.

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Okay.

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And we've got like it coming out with Wiener, all of it.

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All right.

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And then suddenly New York times, Washington post, CNN say, no pizza gate, which was FBI

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code words where they use pizza, Italian food names for pedophilia is this place.

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We go look, it isn't there.

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The media then focuses on us reporting on other reports to say, we're saying that that's

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happening here as a way to demonize us and black out all the other coverage of what's

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going on the other subject.

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That's what's going on with pizza gate.

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Okay.

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You did it again.

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Nice.

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I told you what happened.

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I told you that's what happened.

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We didn't regenerate.

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We didn't create the pizza gate story.

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Mainstream media screwed up by taking that approach.

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Okay.

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So you lost credibility the moment you go that approach.

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Nice.

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Oh my God.

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This is so nice.

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Did this just turn into business counseling?

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Nice.

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You screwed up.

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You screwed up.

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You didn't, you didn't start it, but you screwed up by doing what you did.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Alex is lying about what he did still.

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Of course.

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But Patrick is only responding to what Alex is lying to him about in the room.

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Yeah.

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But if you were actually responding to like Alex, literally he's saying, I'm only responding

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to the Washington Post and New York Times reporting that conspiracy theorists are saying

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that there's a sex club at this pizza place.

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That's bullshit.

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He's responding to like Reddit and 4chan, having all of these posts about this stuff

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and him being like, we played the clip that he took off the internet where he's like,

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you know what?

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It's fucked up.

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You got to check out their menus.

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You got to see what this is all about.

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It's a dark rabbit hole to go down.

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You got to investigate it for yourself, which is what led that guy to show up there with

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a gun.

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Exactly.

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So why is it that a giant piece of shit is the only one who's interviewing Alex the best

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way?

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Well, it's maybe because he's the only person that Alex feels safe with and has access to

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him.

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You know, Alex would never agree to be interviewed by us.

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Oh, yeah, of course not.

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I wouldn't want to do it.

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No, no, no, no.

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We would be, yeah.

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People like us or like even the behind the bastards guy.

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Yeah.

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I could see him doing a pretty good job of interviewing Alex, perhaps, but you'd never

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agree to do that.

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It's too dangerous.

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Right.

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This probably seemed like a really safe possibility.

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You need a mafia sting operation for Alex.

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You need to have somebody push their way into the world, and then all of a sudden you feel

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safe, and then finally the claws come out.

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You need someone like Patrick Bet-David to interview him, but beforehand talk to someone

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like us.

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Yeah.

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That is probably the way you would ever pin him in an interview.

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Yeah.

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You need someone like us or there are other people, not just us, but someone who knows

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the deal.

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I mean, I suppose a team of PhDs who have studied propagandists their entire lives,

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they could probably help.

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Probably, but what I would have done is been like, hey, Patrick, your life story invalidates

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Alex's rhetoric.

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Let's start there.

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At some point in the interview, bring up your refugee history.

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At some point, bring up the fact that you had to flee Iran during the Iraq-Iran war

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and that you are now...

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Now, granted, don't bring up the fact that you're a con man, but you have now become

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a productive member of American society and you are ostensibly a success.

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Disagree.

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I think that's the wrong way to go.

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I think it's totally the wrong way to go.

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No, because if he brings up the refugee thing, then all Alex is going to do is going to be

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like, oh, hey, no, no, no, no, no.

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You don't understand.

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You guys have always gotten this wrong.

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You guys always paint us conservatives as being the people who are against illegal immigration.

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We're for immigration, just legal immigration.

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No, no, no.

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Now, admittedly, we wanted to make it impossible for you to legally immigrate.

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So now let's imagine that that would be Alex's response.

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Yeah.

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Have Patrick have transcripts of things that Alex has said about people like him and then

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Alex would...

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You're taking those out of context, smash the table and then run out the door.

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But then you just say, oh, well, the smash the table, run out the door.

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There's nothing you can do about that.

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Right.

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But assuming he doesn't do that and he says like you're taking this out of context, please

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explain the context.

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But see, that's where I go the other direction.

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You said start with your personal story.

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Don't put it...

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I'm not saying start with it.

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I'm not.

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I'm not.

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When I say start with it, I mean, that is a kernel of something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, no, no.

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Not as where we begin the interview, but that is something you could throw at him.

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Right.

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That would be a deep, deep problem.

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It's an arrow in your quiver.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And a big one.

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But you said leave out the part where you're a con man.

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Well, I'm just saying for presentation's sake.

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See, I say lead with being the con man.

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Well, that's how you get familiarity.

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Exactly.

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That's how you get rapport.

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Go with it.

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Go with it.

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Hey, you know what?

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I'm trying to run my game.

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You're trying to run your game.

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We're all con men, baby.

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Let your guard down.

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The cameras are off.

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Yeah, don't worry about this.

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Yeah.

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Anyways, go into that bathroom.

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You're still mic'd up.

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You killed everybody, right?

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Burp.

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Burp, burp.

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So all this is to say, I don't know, this could have been done better, but at the same

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time, I really do appreciate Patrick pushing back on Alex's, like, what are you, he's trying

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to tell, he's telling a story about Pizzagate and Patrick is like, this is where you fucked

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up.

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Right.

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You understand that this is, this is where you fucked up.

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So this has the feel of Alex was called into the principal's office and it was like, hey,

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look, you did something wrong.

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It's not what you did was wrong.

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It's that you did it wrong.

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It's not that you cheated on me.

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It's that you lied about it.

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Exactly.

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Or something.

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Yeah, sure.

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So Alex lies more about Pizzagate stuff and Patrick, it's trying his best to be like,

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do you understand what you're saying?

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And then there is the shooting.

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What if you wouldn't have gone that route?

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What if it was just purely educational?

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What if it was just, I'm going to give you the info.

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There's no doubt when I see the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, shame, the

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conspiracy theorists say there's a sex club in this place in DC, and then we cover it

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and they say, I did it.

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You better believe now I don't cover that.

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Is it fair to say that you understand that I never covered that pizza place until the

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Washington Post, the New York Times and CNN did not true.

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And then 4chan, which is a bunch of operatives, supplied all the BS.

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4chan is a bunch of operatives, whether or not that's true.

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Alex very recently found Antifa contracts with George Soros organizations on 4chan and

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has been reporting it is true.

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Well, even if he got burned during Pizzagate by believing things from 4chan, he didn't

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change.

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He didn't change all operatives.

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Right, right.

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Whatever.

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And then my reporters, there's only four of them.

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You understand we didn't create that story.

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But you have been talking about parts of that.

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The media, the people on the street, people on the street walk up and they go, I was about

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to do that.

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Fuck you, Pizzagate.

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And I'm like, I didn't create that story.

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Like they go, they walk up and they go, I had a lady walk up two days ago when I was

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in the grocery store, I was buying cherries and cheese and like food and hamburger meat.

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And she walks over and she goes, F you, stop harassing the Sandy Hook family.

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Stop harassing the Sandy Hook families.

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I looked at her.

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I said, lady, I questioned that five years ago, what other people did.

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And she goes, F you, Russian.

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That's what the media told her.

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Let's stay on this topic.

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Let's not.

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No, I'm a graduate of Sandy Hook in this interview.

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So I don't want to go back to Sandy Hook.

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No, but that's all they talk about.

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I don't want to talk about that.

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I want to say, since you brought it.

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I agree.

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Good.

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Let's not talk about it.

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I believe it happened.

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And I'm sorry for the family.

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Fair enough.

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God damn it.

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Stop saying it.

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I said it didn't happen.

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Stay in this topic.

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Let's take pizza again.

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Let's stay focused on this topic here.

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When you hear that bang, that's him hitting his fist on the table.

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He's just going like, I didn't say it.

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Yeah, you did.

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This is the moment, man.

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This is hard, man.

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This is crazy.

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So in the next clip, I'm going to skip it because we have enough to get through already.

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He's just going to say that Megyn Kelly took him out of context.

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And it was a really funny moment.

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Really?

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Well, he's like, they edited everything.

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And Patrick's like, of course they did.

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They're making a show.

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Yeah.

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Good work, Alex.

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He's like, I have tape of everything that'll prove me right.

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What do you mean they don't have production readings on air?

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But the more important thing is that he's trying to present himself as a victim again.

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He's like, they took me out of context.

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Do you know how that feels?

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Yeah.

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That's your entire career, Alex.

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All you do is take people out of context.

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Every single writing that he's ever covered.

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So who else knows how it feels like he does?

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Right, but it makes it very hard to have any empathy for him.

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But then the theme of Pizzagate continues.

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And Alex says something that I think is super fucked up.

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And I didn't know it was something he might believe.

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This is really bad.

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You know, that's one of the fundamental themes.

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There's a man versus man, van versus nature, man versus technology, and then Pizzagate.

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Let's stay on Pizzagate.

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Fair?

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Let's go on Pizzagate.

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I'm going to re-remind you what you just said to me about two minutes ago.

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You said, I didn't bring up Pizzagate.

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Other people did.

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And then I started talking about it.

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Right?

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Fine.

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That's kind of like you saying, I didn't invent guns.

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John Doe did.

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I just used it.

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So you took that story that they started talking about, and then you sensationalized it.

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And a guy went out there and shot the place.

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So the part when you're asking me about it.

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No, the media said that some out of work actor hooked into them

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that no one even proved shot the place did that as like a way to evenize first amendment.

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Holy shit.

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Now Alex's conspiracy is that that shooting at Comet Ping Pong didn't happen.

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Did he just false flag his own false flag?

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Wow.

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Wow.

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And I don't really appreciate that Patrick didn't push back on that because that's crazy.

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What do you say to that?

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I don't know.

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What do you say to that?

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Other than like, are you just going to not acknowledge reality ever?

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Well, I think the only thing you can do as the interviewer in this case is make sure

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that he says specifically what he means.

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And Patrick doesn't do that.

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Right.

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What Alex is saying is that shooting didn't happen.

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It was a worker for the globalist is an out of work actor that the media got to do this

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and it was all fake.

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Right.

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So the idea then, if you're the interviewer is to say, what do you mean by that?

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Please say specifically what you mean.

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Right.

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Without Alex realizing he's being tricked into specifically saying that shooting didn't

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happen because then now you know who the victim of that shooting was?

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James Elefantus, the owner of Common Ping Pong Pizza who already threatened to sue Alex

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and got a public apology from him.

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So now if he's on this new platform where he's being interviewed, he's saying...

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I apologize for something that didn't even happen.

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He's saying that the shooting is fake.

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That is now James Elefantus has standing to reopen that lawsuit that he allowed Alex to

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not have the consequences of because Alex issued a public retraction.

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This could be really fucking damaging for Alex.

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You know what's crazy though is that this has stopped sounding like an interview to

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me and started more sounding like a...

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Like I'm taking an employee into the back to explain why they cleaned up the floors

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wrong.

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Yeah, there's...

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Like this really does have a sound of like, look, I don't think what you're doing is bad.

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I think you're bad at doing it.

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There is kind of that feel to it.

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And part of that comes from Patrick Bette David's like his background as an entrepreneur

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and being sort of like a advice guy.

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Yeah.

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That sort of thing.

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I think that his sort of worldview and his modus operandi is kind of that coaching thing.

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And he's kind of trying to like, Alex, how can you do what you do better?

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Right, right, right.

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Do you understand that you fucked up?

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You don't.

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And then when it's clear that like, no, he doesn't understand, there's nothing to do

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other than keep asking questions as best you can.

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I think you're a great dictator and I really like the way you're going about it.

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However, do you think you made some mistakes?

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What is your fault here?

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What do you think you could improve upon?

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I imagine Paul Pott would admit to more mistakes than Alex is in this interview.

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So at this point...

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Well, I killed Derek and I fucking loved that guy, man.

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At this point, I think that Patrick kind of recognizes that the roads that he's been going

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down are kind of fruitless.

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The idea of the sensationalism, the idea of like, why aren't other people kicked off that

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say the same things as you?

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The idea of like, he already got him to admit that he exaggerates stuff, so that's a win.

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But in terms of actually getting anywhere with the Pizzagate or Sandy Hook, which again,

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Alex brought up himself.

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Yeah, because apparently that's the only thing that's breaking Alex's brain right now.

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I think he realizes nothing we can do about this.

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Let's try and pivot on to just like hot topics.

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And so he asks him about college.

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Now we're going to do the lightning round.

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Alex, what do we got here?

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He asks him about education and pay very close attention to Alex burping up booze while he

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answers this question about how much he hates college.

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What is your thoughts on the current educational system?

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I think it's a total scam, like Rush Limbaugh used to say, I went to college, I could have

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got into UT and I already had a couple jobs.

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I was making like more than the professors were.

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I was making $100,000 a year and I knew the professors were making like $40,000 a year.

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And it was all this anti-American crap.

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So I was in sales and a bunch of other stuff when I was like 19 years old.

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And so I just thought it was more of an indoctrination thing.

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So real quick, if he was making $100,000 in sales as a 19 year old, there's a decent chance

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that back then he was working in some sort of a Cutco MLM type.

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He might have been a very successful sales con man back then.

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Entirely possible.

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$100,000 as a 19 year old with no experience is an incredible amount.

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I think he's exaggerating.

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It's an insane amount of money.

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If you take him at his word, what realistically probably was happening was he's making much

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less than that, but it was some sort of con thing like that.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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We only have his information to go on and he's a liar.

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So who knows exactly what he's talking about, but it seems like that might be his entire

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career and life.

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So I went to community college for two years and that's why I got out of modern education,

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which I think isn't actually getting ready for the real world.

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I think it's politically kind of just indoctrinating you.

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So that's where I stand on.

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Do you mean it was hard?

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I think education is great overall.

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Do you mean it was hard to read?

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If it's based on what's really going on, like engineering or things like that.

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I have trouble reading.

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General degrees now are a joke.

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So STEM, you need school.

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Anything outside of STEM, you don't necessarily need to go to school.

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Is that kind of what you're saying?

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Yeah.

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I mean, people need to know engineering.

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They need to know they're going to probably be a lawyer, go to school.

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But mainly it's the thing about getting in big debt.

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Okay.

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Mainly the concern is that they're going to get into big debt.

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Do you have a strong opinion on how you would improve it?

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Because I'm curious.

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I actually am curious to know if there's one, two, three things you'd say, here's what we

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could do with the educational system to improve it or it's a non topic, non-issue.

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The educational system is about political indoctrination.

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So I would fix it by making it based on real up-to-date, real world application for engineering,

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for culture, for science, for jobs, not about being politically indoctrinated.

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So they are basically political cults now and education.

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All of those things are political.

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Applications is worthless today in 2018.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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There is no one of those things that he mentioned that is not inherently political.

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Fair enough.

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But even take that out of it, just use his words.

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He's saying that the problem with education is that it's political brainwashing.

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So what you need to do is change it and make it about engineering culture.

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He says culture and what it's supposed to be about.

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What are you saying?

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Why would a...

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He's trying to make it sound like what he's advocating is just like, you know, you just

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need to go in mostly about training for jobs and being a lawyer, being an engineer.

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But the fact that his brain immediately goes to culture being a part of it leads me to

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believe he's just like, well, I want our whiteness to be a part of this.

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Yeah.

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When you say culture, most people think like, oh, you mean humanities and the arts.

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And what he means is indoctrinating people into accepting the white culture that we have.

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Well, because his problem, why he thinks that colleges are brainwashing dens and what have

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you is because of the idea of like plurality and diversity that exists on campuses and

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that the college students protest things that he supports.

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Yep.

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Blah.

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Anyway, this next clip is my furthest, firmest evidence that Alex Jones is fucking shit house.

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Yeah.

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Patrick brings up David Brock and Alex comes up with a joke.

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Oh, no.

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David Brock.

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No, drunk Alex jokes are not good.

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David Brock, if you don't know, is the guy who runs media matters.

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Yeah.

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And Alex hates him because he's a conduit for Soros shit.

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Sure.

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But Alex comes up with a joke and won't let it go.

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Oh, no.

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I mean, David Brock is basically George Soros's toilet.

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So whatever George Soros craps out on us is into David Brock.

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So David Brock is just a soulless globalist that takes hundreds of millions of dollars

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to attack the First Amendment, infiltrate media organizations, engage in all sorts of

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horrible activities.

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I mean, David Brock is just a absolutely traitorous individual.

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It's this country.

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Yeah.

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He's George Soros's toilet.

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So who do you got his mouth is who his mouth is the toilet bowl.

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Got it.

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I like that better.

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I fully get it.

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I get it, dude.

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I get it, dude.

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So you fucking nailed it.

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Jordan, this next part is awesome to me because there is a question that a lot of people should

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be asking Alex Jones that no one really thinks to ask.

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Yeah.

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And that is...

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Do you wax or do you shave?

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Boxes or briefs, bro?

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Yeah.

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No, it's about 9-11.

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Now, I don't like to dive too deep into Alex's 9-11 beliefs because I just don't think that

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that's super productive.

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I think there's a lot of other people who have covered it.

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And I think you could do that on your own.

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I just don't like it all that much.

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But there is a really essential question that is, you talk a lot about 9-11, what do you

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know about it?

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Let's talk about 9-11 since today is 9-11.

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I forgot about it.

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At what point did you come out...

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When you came out and you talked about what you thought was taking place with 9-11, who

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was really behind the 9-11 with what you've studied over the years and what you've spoken

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about?

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I don't know who's behind it.

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Ooh, ooh, ooh.

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Seems like you should really know if you're the guy who's...

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On your show, you definitely present it as if you know.

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Who do you say it is?

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That's fascinating.

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The idea that he's saying, you've done years and years of research.

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Years and years of research.

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You talk about it all the time.

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You know exactly who did it.

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Who was behind it?

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I don't know.

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I don't fucking know.

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I don't fucking know.

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I don't know.

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Could be anybody.

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You know what?

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Hey, those terrorists might have done it.

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Who the fuck knows?

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This is the exact same thing as what we talked about earlier.

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He has a pitch that he'd like to go into, but he recognizes that Patrick's gonna ask

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him another question.

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And he knows like, ah shit, this isn't gonna work.

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I'll just fucking say I don't know.

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Whoever you think did it, fuck off.

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He rambles a bit and eventually lands on Dick Cheney as being sort of a culprit.

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See, now that I'm actually fine with.

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But he brings up the project for a new American century document, the rebuilding America's

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defenses.

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And he says this, which is very unfair.

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Dick Cheney wrote Rebuilding America's Defenses a year before 9-11.

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PNAC document.

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And it says we want a new Pearl Harbor that kills at least 3000 people.

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It says this.

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It doesn't.

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And we want to use bio weapons to kill the Muslims.

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And back then I was more of a liberal.

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I still want to call the Muslims and I'm like, holy.

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Wait, what?

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Wait, did you just say back then I was more of a liberal.

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I still didn't want to kill.

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No, I had to listen to that like three times because I thought that's what he said.

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He says I was more of a liberal back then and I still don't want to kill all the Muslims.

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Oh, OK.

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He's not really like so close to really does it like so close.

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I didn't want to kill all the Muslims.

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Now, of course, I thought like, oh my God.

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How drunk are you that you just said that?

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Yeah.

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But no, it's clear if you really listen to it.

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He's saying back then I was more liberal, but I also still don't want to kill the Muslims.

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OK, so that that.

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But boy, it's a razor.

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That was a hair trim.

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And all of the awesome American statesmen picked it up.

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But that was an awesome.

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Dick Cheney says we got race specific weapons.

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And the problem is it'll kill 22 percent of whites and like 70 percent of blacks because

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Arabs are a mix of the two whites.

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So we should be ready to release it.

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And I'm like reading this.

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What is the pena documents right after it happened?

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I had read it before it happened.

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And they're talking about killing everybody and they're talking about world government.

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And I mean, these are public stuff.

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You can read this.

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You can.

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I like the idea that he sort of thinks that people in the Middle East are like chocolate

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and vanilla swirl.

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So.

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So, yeah.

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So white people are white.

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Black people are black.

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Brown people.

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Obviously, that's just white plus black.

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Yeah, that makes half and half.

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Yeah.

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Jesus Christ.

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So that is what we're dealing with, isn't it?

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That's elementary level.

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Yeah.

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These that's what these people genuinely are like is like, oh, well, Chinese is just like

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a part of this place and then strawberry, you know, the same shit.

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It's Neapolitan.

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Yeah.

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So the the the project for a new American century, the pena document rebuilding America's

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defenses is like it's it's sort of a boogeyman for the anti right part of Alex's career.

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Yeah.

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He made a lot of hay out of this.

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And a lot of people who are sort of left leaning Alex-y types will bring that up as like proof

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that these people did 9-11.

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And I resent that a little bit.

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And this is always difficult because like it is bad.

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Like you look at the document, it's fucking bad.

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Yeah.

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But they exaggerate how bad it is.

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Yeah.

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The notorious pena document is it's a pretty shitty document that does absolutely lead

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one to suspect that should the people who wrote this sort of thing get into power, they

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might choose to not take credible threats too seriously in order that they might be

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able to exploit a tragedy in order to push through the policies that they're in favor

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of.

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That in no way proves that they, quote, did 9-11, but still should earn all their asses

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a trip to the Hague.

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As to Alex's part about the race.

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It's like I don't think there's proof that Cheney was behind 9-11.

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Mm hmm.

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But I do think Cheney very easily could have been behind 9-11.

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Very easily could have had, you know, he could have had a part in not accepting threats because

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this is the sort of thing that they would like to happen exactly in order to perpetuate

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their agenda.

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It's possible that that's the case.

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I'm not going to make a YouTube video about it.

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The part that Alex is talking about, about them wanting to have a bunch of deaths isn't

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that's not in there.

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All of the passage that he was referencing is a quote, further the process of transformation,

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even if it brings revolutionary changes, likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic

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and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor.

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But again, this doesn't prove that they did 9-11, nor does it say anywhere in the document

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they needed three thousand people dead.

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All that shit's nonsense.

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That would be a weirdly specific number.

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Like, is that some sort of well, we had we had a statistics guy go back through history

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and we found that any good catalyzing event that allows us to transform a country into

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what we there's a Mendoza law requires about three thousand deaths.

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Above that, you can still go below that.

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People don't care as much as to Alex's part about race specific bioweapons.

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He's talking.

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He's taking that exclusively from one passage.

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Quote, information systems will become an important focus of attack, particularly for

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US enemies seeking to short circuit sophisticated American forces and advanced forms of biological

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warfare that can, quote, target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the

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realm of terrorism to a politically useful tool.

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So they're talking about people attacking the United States.

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It's important that you realize one thing.

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The name of the document is rebuilding America's defenses and that the entire context of the

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passage is discussing threats that the United States might face in the coming years as

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technologies evolve and malevolent actors gain various unforeseen advantages.

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So they're talking about hypothetical things that could be stuff we need to protect against

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as opposed to we have developed race specific bioweapons.

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Right, right.

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Alex is completely taking this out of context, which earlier in this interview, he's crying

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about other people doing to him.

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Right.

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Now, the other thing you need to take into consideration that's very important is genotype

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is not the same thing as race.

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What, Dan?

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But I went to community college for a couple of years and I learned all the STEM fields.

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Are you telling me that they didn't throw that in there?

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When he's saying that certain weapons that could target a genotype are conceivably things

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we should be worried about someone developing.

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Yeah, like the black type, the white type.

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Yeah, that's not the same thing as a race specific bioweapon.

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According to the NIH, quote, strict categories exclusive and exhaustive in which each human

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being is assignable with that ambiguity to one and only one race and the basis of genetic

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characteristics are unattainable.

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The genetics cannot provide a single definitive human classification system for which to address

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the many facets of health differences.

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So would you say that race is almost a not thing?

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Race primarily exists as a social construct, and that's the game that Alex is operating

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under, yet he tries to use it as some sort of a scientific thing to bolster narratives

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like this.

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Now, none of this is to defend Cheney.

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None of this is to defend any of that, but it's super unfair.

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So this saying like, oh, that's where your idea of race specific bioweapons comes from?

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I got bad news.

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You're wrong.

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So they're actually bioweapons that scan the color of your skin.

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Right, right.

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Yeah, they don't work on any kind of genetics.

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They have like optics.

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There's a computer.

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It's like drones.

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You do it.

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You do it.

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It's fine.

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Yeah.

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So this is a load of bullshit.

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You know, the most race specific bioweapon is a white guy with a gun.

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Oh, yeah, certainly.

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Isn't that a really specific, really race specific bioweapon?

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Especially when it's a cop.

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Yeah.

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So let's take this back a second.

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Patrick was saying that like, what do you know about 9-11?

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9-11, Alex said, I don't know.

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Nothing.

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I don't know who did it.

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Now, Patrick has a follow up question here that is deeply problematic for Alex's entire

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sense of self.

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You make it easy sometimes for these people to take shots at you.

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Some people also on the flip side say, listen, Alex could have contacts on the inside with

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the CIA and DEA that he knows people that are feeding him stuff, et cetera, et cetera.

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Is there anybody, you know, that on the inside that's connecting you and telling you stuff?

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Because if that is true, you would have more information on 9-11.

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Because if the stuff you're talking about got 5 billion views, then wouldn't somebody

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from the inside who is opposing, like right now they're saying there's somebody on the

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inside that's working with Trump that opposes him.

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Somebody would contact and say like, Alex, here's some information I'm going to pass

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down to you.

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So real quick, that's a dangerous question for Alex, which is if you have the sources

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that you claim to, you should know more about 9-11.

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Yep.

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That is a deep problem for Alex's narratives.

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Now let's see how he answers that question.

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Zach!

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Here's the deal.

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Wouldn't they?

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If you went and bought groceries five years ago, are you worried about the grocery you

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bought five years ago?

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No.

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Huh?

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We're trying to get the economy going.

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We're trying to defend the country.

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We're trying to stop war.

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I don't talk to people about what happened, you know, 18 years ago.

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Yeah, but today's 9-11.

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I brought it up because it's 9-11.

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No, no, I'm not saying you're wrong.

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No, no, no.

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We're not trying to fight old fights.

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We're not trying to open all wounds.

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We're not even trying to hurt globalists.

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We just wanted to get out of the way for American success.

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I mean, do I talk to people, you know, in corporations and media and like, oh, some

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sexiness government agencies?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But it's not like they're just American patriots like I am.

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So I'm not like sitting there talking about what happened 17 years ago with people.

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We're trying to like, how do we boost the stock market?

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How do we fix the country?

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How do we make Americans come together?

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I mean, I've been in these meetings, you want to talk about CIA generals, everything.

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It's like, we need to try to find out how to not be at war with Islam and try to get

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radicalism out of the way.

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We need to bring everybody together and we need to like be peaceful.

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And how do we make the world a better place?

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It's, it's, it's literally with Trump.

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How do we make a better future?

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It is not the leftist saying race war, religious war.

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It's the opposite with Trump is we want unification.

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We want a free market system.

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We want justice and your mission is to empower people and have them believe they're powerful.

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And whether they're a Christian or a Muslim or agnostic or gay or straight to unify people

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around a human victory for the planet, that's what Trump's doing.

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And that's why they're pissed.

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That's not the definition of a known answer.

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Fuck you.

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And that's so stupid because any of those things could like all the things he's like,

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we're working towards probably could be achieved by one of your sources.

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Your sources telling you what happened with nine 11.

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Yeah.

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So that's like, that's so dodgy.

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But even in his dumb dodgy answer, again, he's the weakest link of this shit because

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it is so obvious when he's like, we need to find a way to not be at war with Islam.

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And then in the next press, we need to get radical Islam out of the way.

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Right.

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Which is like.

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And what's your definition of radical Islam?

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Your definition of radical Islam is all Islam.

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So how do we find a way to not be at war with Islam while we try and get rid of Islam?

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That's a two step way of saying we need an ethnic cleansing, but because they're divided,

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you're like, well, I mean, you combine sure nuclear material with this and then nuclear

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material over there and it's a bomb.

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But if you just say them differently, it's not even that harmful.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like that's he just said we need to get rid of Islam entirely.

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Well, if you understand what he stands for and what the subtext of his words are,

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that is what he's saying.

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Yeah, that's exactly why is it that's so weird about language in the way that we treat it.

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It's that it's that like you can use a euphemism to say anything you want to.

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But if you say it directly, everybody gets mad at you.

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Well, but they would get mad at you for using that euphemistically if they understood what

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you're saying, or at least like I think that Patrick would push back against him if he

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had more of a robust understanding of who Alex was.

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But what he just said was we need to get rid of Islam.

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Like he might as well have stood on top of a literal fucking soapbox and said,

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kill the Islamic people.

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But if you if you are someone like I assume Patrick Bette David is who thinks that there

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is a like a problem with radical Islam, you could hear Alex say radical Islam like,

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well, that is a problem.

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There are all those terrorists and stuff like that and not recognize that in Alex's

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definition of the word that is all that there is no room for moderate Islam in his world.

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That's how they get away with it.

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Exactly.

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That's how they all think that.

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And that's why it's dangerous to be unprepared and have interviews with people like him,

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because you will accidentally be tricked into thinking that they're saying something that's

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like that makes sense when in actuality, you and I both know Alex is advocating for the

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elimination of a religion.

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Yeah, he just and a population.

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He's just going for genocide right now, because what's your your follow up there?

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If you know what's going on, it's just like, OK, give an example of define radical Islam.

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Yeah, define it.

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What's your moderate Islam?

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Yeah.

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Throw that in there.

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Now, it's interesting that you're bringing up genocide because there's these one dudes

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named Dem Nazis who tried to pull that off earlier.

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OK.

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And boy, Patrick has an interesting question about Nazis that Alex is so fucking adverse

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to answering that I think it means something.

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Is that a little bit revealing?

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I think it might be.

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Are Nazis good?

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Jordan?

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The answer should be a very quick.

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Jordan?

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Succinct?

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No, this is the answer has more than one word in it.

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It's probably not a good sign.

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This is a Mike Down clip.

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Here we go.

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Sometimes you get criticism because some people say, well, Alex never bashes Nazis.

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You know, a lot of times they'll say, you know, he is so nice to them.

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He is so kind to them.

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He is so gentle with them.

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What do you have to say about that?

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I don't even.

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Nazis were like people we beat like 70 years ago in World War Two.

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It's just it's like a mentally ill joke about being nice to Nazis.

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I'm not nice to Nazis.

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If you go online and type in Alex Jones Nazis, all you do is attack me.

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It's total horse crap.

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So what do you think about?

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Nazis?

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Yes.

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Well, they lost World War Two and they're losers.

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And the KKK and groups like that are a joke.

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But it's like it's like, like, what do you think of child molesters?

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Do you think they still like?

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Let me ask you, what do you think of child molesters?

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I think they need to be tracked based on whatever they're whatever they're doing right now.

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And they belong in prison.

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Good.

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I agree.

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So what do you think of Nazis?

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So is that your opinion?

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I'm asking you.

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Yeah, I agree.

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What do you do? I'm asking you.

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What do you do about Nazis?

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What do you do about Nazis?

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I'm asking you the question back.

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Imagine like being asked, how do you solve a problem?

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Yeah, but there's a difference with you because you actually are in this world.

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It's like somebody asked me about an insurance policy.

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I saw that.

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Maybe I disagree with you.

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I challenge you in this.

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Nazis are losers, man.

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What world am I supporting Nazis?

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It's like, hey, Alex, tell me you don't support communists.

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I'm like, I don't support communists.

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I'm an American.

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I love free market.

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I'm not trying to be friends with Nazis.

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There's no group that attacks me more than the Nazis.

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That's why it's a bizarre statement to ask about Nazis, because the average Nazi is a

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Southern Property Law Center, ADL operative.

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OK, that doesn't help.

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So what we've had is Alex, when asked about whether or not he supports what the Nazis

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support, what's the situation with it?

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He will only flip the question to say, what do you think about child molesters?

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Top five reasons not to like Nazis, Dan.

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Go ahead.

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Just off the top of your head.

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Number one, the Nazis.

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Nazis, that's a bad thing to be.

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That's about all you need.

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No, no, no.

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I mean, no, like of the accomplishments that the Nazis have made, what are their top five

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worst things that they've done?

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I mean, obviously the genocide.

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Right.

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That one's top there.

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Yeah.

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You could use that one first.

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If somebody were to ask you how you feel about Nazis, you could say genocide is bad.

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Sure.

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Right.

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There, which he actually, Alex, accidentally sort of agrees with the Nazis, his anti-communist

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stance, certainly that was a big part of their their programs was to kill tons of communists.

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You know what my first response to why don't you like Nazis?

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Their insidious influence that existed since the 70 years ago when they lost in World War

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II and how their legacy still lives on through tons of people who are on the streets and

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actually are at protests that Alex Jones supports and refuses to in any way say negative things

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about.

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Hey, you know what I wouldn't say?

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You know what I wouldn't say?

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My biggest problem with the Nazis isn't that they lost.

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No.

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Because it sure seems like his biggest problem with the Nazis is that they didn't win the

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war.

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Not any of the stuff.

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Why would I talk about Nazis?

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They lost.

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I'm talking about the all right.

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We rebranded.

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Right.

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And then you have to understand, too, that like so many of the people that are in his

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world are kind of Nazi adjacent, which we'll get into in a second, because Patrick tries

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to do this again, tries to refocus and get Alex to actually answer the question, which

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is a super easy question to answer.

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Like, people say that you're soft on Nazis.

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No, I'm not.

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Fuck them.

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Yeah.

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And here's why.

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They're out there in the streets.

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They're protesting.

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They're using a bunch of different organizations' names.

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They're hiding under different banners.

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And that's fucking bullshit.

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Well, what even is a Nazi?

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I believe in nationalism.

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I believe in the free market.

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But there are people who are using those terms in order to mask their Nazism and their white

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supremacy.

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And I disavow that entirely.

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And in order to make the argument that I'm making pure and that it is really just about

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nationalism and free market stuff, I have a responsibility to call this out within our

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own ranks.

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It's that easy.

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He refuses to do that.

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And anyway, the furthest he'll go in that last clip is say that they're losers and then

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insinuate that Nazis are SPLC agents, which is not good.

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It gets so much worse.

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That's my biggest issue with the Nazis.

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It gets so much worse.

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They lost.

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Seriously, it's like asking me, what are you making these guys that stole pumpkins last

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week out of this thing on I-45?

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What?

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I'm like...

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It's brought up.

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It's sometimes brought up with you.

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No, it's brought up.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, they call all conservatives.

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But it gets old, man.

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The Nazis?

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Really?

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Yeah, but it also gets old on the flip side when every time something happens, you say,

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you know, Hitler did this back in the days and America is doing the same thing.

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So I'm asking the question because sometimes some people...

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Give me the example.

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You say, I said that America is like Hitler.

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Give me an example where I said that.

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The first five minutes you said that.

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First five minutes of today said...

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What did I say?

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You want me to replay for you?

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Now, it's tens of thousands of articles a month everywhere lying about me, never showing

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what I supposedly said, just claiming I said something.

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And I said, this is clearly just like the Nazis did.

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So I'm pro-Hitler, but I'm criticizing Nazi Germany.

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No, you're not pro-Hitler, but you're criticizing them.

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You bring that up.

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Well, no, I definitely agree.

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I don't think Germany is the ultimate evil in the world, but I think it did a lot of

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bad stuff and 22 million Germans died.

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First five minutes you brought it up.

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Okay, well, I brought up Germany was bad.

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Sure, you're saying what America is doing is what they're doing.

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But I think I rest my case.

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I know you do.

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So am I a Nazi?

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No, I said it's wrong to be a Nazi.

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I rest my case.

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So you don't support what they stand for?

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That's an easy answer.

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Socialism and like killing people that aren't German, hell yeah, I disagree with that.

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Okay.

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Let me ask you this.

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The cried child molestation.

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Do who?

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Tell me you're not for child molestation.

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I'm not.

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Tell me you're not a Nazi.

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I'm not.

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Good.

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Tell me you're not a gay member.

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I'm not.

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See how dumb it is, though?

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It's dumb.

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Oh, no, but when have I...

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This is the craziness of leftists.

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There's a double standard. I challenge you to find anywhere that I support loser Nazis.

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Challenge accepted.

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Oh, boy.

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So let's just go through a list of Alex Jones's guests.

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Tommy Robinson is someone that he has on very frequently.

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Tommy Robinson is the founder of the EDL, the England Defense League.

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He also has a lot of connections to Nazi groups in England in his past.

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Yeah.

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So there's one someone who has a very strong white supremacist Nazi history.

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Yeah, but he's not a loser, Dan, so he can't be a Nazi.

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That's science.

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Before he was unmasked as Steven Yaxley Lennon as being his real name, he existed online

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without his face being involved because of those neo-Nazi groups that he was a part of

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originally.

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Now, Alex, that's one of his big allies in Europe.

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So there's one.

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Second, Marine Le Pen.

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Her dad was the leader...

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Legally a fascist.

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Legal definition of Marine Le Pen is fascist.

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Her dad was part of the, what was it, the European front?

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The Nazi lingering group in France.

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Right, yeah.

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He was a part of...

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So there's two.

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If we just want to go European branch.

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Now, if you want to talk about the guests that Alex has had on, there's a bunch of them

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who have also been guests on Red Ice Radio, which is a literal Nazi group that does a

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Nazi podcast out of Europe.

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Really?

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Yes.

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Daryl Hamamoto was recently a guest on Red Ice Radio.

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He is not my favorite crazy anymore.

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He's still my favorite crazy, but I just imagine that maybe he was tricked into going on that.

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Probably not.

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Nazis aren't that clever.

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They're losers.

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Now, if you look into the narratives that Alex perpetuates, there's heavy overlap with

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the people like Identity Europa, Vanguard, even places like Stormfront.

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There's a ton of overlap in things that those people put into the world and what Alex stands

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for.

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So if you want to talk about concrete connections, you have those people that are influencers

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of Alex that are also members of neo-Nazi organizations.

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Now, if you want to talk about the narratives, that's there.

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Now, if you want to talk about people he has on like Based Stick Man that are specifically,

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you know, their existence is only to fight anti-fascists.

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Yeah.

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That leads you to ask a question.

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If you just want to go with circumstantial evidence, like how you might say answer a

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yes or no question, right?

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So your yes or no question is, do you like Nazis?

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If your answer is, well, I mean, why would I like Nazis?

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The Nazis lost!

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Now...

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I don't understand why you answered my yes or no question with a question.

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Now take it even another step...

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Do you remember when you asked me that question and I said, I don't like them?

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Now take it another step further and wrestle with the fact that Alex constantly calls George

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Soros a Nazi collaborator when that is not true.

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You have some sort of deflection about Nazi stuff.

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Seems like it.

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Now let's look into how he uses Nazi propaganda, whether it be things that the Nazis that already

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existed before them, but they perpetuated very heavily, ideas that Jews commit blood

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libel, the idea that they poisoned the well.

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Those sorts of things are very deeply entrenched in Alex's narratives.

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Further, his ideas about the globalists are strongly reinforced by the forgery anti-Semitic

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hoax, the protocols of the elders of Zion, things that Adolf Hitler used in parts of

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his propaganda campaigns, things that American Nazis like Ford used in their anti-Jew propaganda.

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Or some president's dad.

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Right.

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Who would elect a president's dad?

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Oh God.

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And then another thing that we discussed in the endgame coverage, this idea of Alex's

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worldview is very contingent on the idea that the Rothschilds, Nathan de Rothschild with

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the Battle of Waterloo had secret information that he used to crash the English market in

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order to buy it all up, which is the pattern and the model that Alex uses to talk about

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these other globalist conquests of countries.

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Yup.

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That is specifically based on a Goebbels film.

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That's based on the Rothschilds share in Waterloo.

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That is a Nazi propaganda film.

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So Alex, when you ask me, you challenge me to bring up the things that make you kind

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of a Nazi, there is my answer.

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And then of course there's all the things you believe, the Nazi things.

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I think I dealt with that with his narratives and stuff like that.

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This is pathetic.

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It's fascinating to me because...

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Because you have that like four minutes of him refusing to answer the question about

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the Nazi stuff.

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And then at the end saying, I challenge you.

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To which the answer is just like, no, I don't like Nazis.

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Like that's the thing about...

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Do you know about Alex Jones?

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Yeah.

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If you do, then you can answer that question.

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Yeah.

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But unfortunately so many people don't know.

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Well, but that's the thing is like, if we had this interview with a Tucker Carlson or

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a Sean Hannity, they would both have the answer ready so they wouldn't be caught doing this

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bullshit of like, I mean, Nazis are, they're losers.

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It's not that they're...

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Even if you're unprepared, it's so easy.

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I know, but that's what I'm saying.

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Like it's so indicative of how much Alex does believe in all of this shit that he can't

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even stick to the...

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Well, and how shook he is by him not going...

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The interviewer not going along with him.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That he has to like, what do you think about pedophiles?

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What?

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Yeah.

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I wonder if they...

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Isn't this so old?

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If this dude interviewed Sean Hannity, would we find out Sean Hannity's actual Nazi beliefs?

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Like, is it just like, what do we need?

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I don't think so because I watched the interview...

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What kind of con man interviewer do we need to get Sean Hannity to be like, oh yeah, by

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the way, I love Nazis.

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I think you just listen to him.

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You could find that out.

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But I think that if you watch the interview that he did, this guy, Patrick Bette Davis...

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David.

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I always want to say Davis.

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I don't know.

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It rolls off the tongue better.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Patrick Bette David did with Ben Shapiro.

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You'll see him not push back this hard.

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He's doing this specifically to Alex because Alex has a lot of holes.

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But then also he's asking the second, not third question, which in this instance, during

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this exchange about Nazi stuff, had the third question been asked, Alex would have no

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answer for it.

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It would have been a disaster.

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It would have been a fire.

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So they get off this topic and Alex makes probably the lamest claim I've ever heard

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him make.

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Okay.

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It's not about me making it.

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But he said, I'm playing at the big boy level.

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If you're going to play at the big boy level, the big boy level is Machiavellian.

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Oh no.

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You think Jesus played at the Machiavellian level?

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I don't know if I'm saying Jesus is big boy level.

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I'm not talking about big boy level.

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I'm saying there's a level above that just being straight up.

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So you think that's the level you're playing, enlightenment level.

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It's the next level.

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The next level is you putting yourself at the enlightenment level is what you're saying.

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I really want prosperity in the future.

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Okay.

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And I'm against globalism and I want to sexualize children and I am next level.

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Yes.

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Fair enough.

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Okay.

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You keep asking why they fear me.

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The answer is right there because I can't be bought.

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I'm not under their control.

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I love God.

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You can't be bought.

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You can't be bought.

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Cannot be bought.

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What does that mean you can't be bought though?

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There is no price.

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Already sold.

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You sell products on a weekly basis though.

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That's to fund me but I wouldn't sell poison to people to get ahead.

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I sell things and t-shirts and books to fund myself

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but that's people buying because they believe what I'm doing.

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I'm not compromising.

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Go a little deeper with this.

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What do you mean I'm not compromising?

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You're selling.

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You're making money.

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You can't be bought.

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What can't be bought?

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But selling things is only fuel to carry out my operation.

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Okay.

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Selling things is to fuel to carry out my operation.

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But you can't be bought.

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Yeah, like the hierarchy of needs.

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Money is not the tip of my pyramid.

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Doing good for humanity and winning is where I want to go.

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And so I'll sell t-shirts, books, videos, water filtration, air filtration,

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and infowarsword.com to fund myself.

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But my God is not that money.

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You certainly understand that.

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In the past Alex has advertised for the Israeli Ministry of Tourism.

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While he was saying negative things about Israel on air back in 2009.

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Can't be bought.

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He ran ads for the Most High Family Ministry.

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A literal cult.

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Can't be bought.

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Uh, this is such nonsense.

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He's just selling things.

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He can't be bought.

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And right now he knows that he's about to unveil on air that he's a multi-level marketing guy.

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You can't buy me but I will sell your stuff.

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I can't be bought.

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I won't sell poison to my audience but I will sell them

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a system that will get them deeply in debt.

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Oh yeah yeah yeah.

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So that's fun.

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I'll sell them a cult.

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But you see there is exactly why it's pointless to interview Alex.

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He pushed back exactly how he should have.

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You can't be bought.

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You sell stuff.

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What are you talking about?

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Yeah yeah yeah.

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Alex is like, money's not my God.

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I love truth.

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All right.

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That's as deep as you're gonna go with him.

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He's not going to take you to another level.

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And it's crazy because he is fucking drunk as shit here.

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And like even in that state he's not going to allow that penetration.

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He's going to say things that are super revealing like that Nazi exchange.

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But he's not going to let you understand, I love money.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Because even as fucked up as he is he knows the cameras are on.

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Right.

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So now Jordan, come to the game.

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Here we go.

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So here's the game.

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At the end of this interview, like I didn't see this coming at all.

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This is the awesomest thing that an interview could ever do.

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I will give Patrick Bette Davis, David, all the credit in the world for this.

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I'm gonna give you a word, a name, and you tell me the first thing that comes to your

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mind, okay?

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Or a little bit longer than the first thing that comes to your mind.

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Let's see what you're gonna say.

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Your brain is a fast brain so let's see what you're gonna say.

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First one.

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Now Jordan, here's how the game is gonna go.

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Yes.

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I'll tell you in advance, these are not words, these are people's names.

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Okay.

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So he's going to say people's names and then Alex is gonna say the first word that comes

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to his mind.

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All right.

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I will play the person's name then I'm going to pause it and you have to guess what is

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Alex's response.

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Okay.

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Here's the first one.

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Edward Snowden.

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What do you think he's going to say?

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I'm gonna go with Traitor.

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Patriot.

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Oh, oh man, way wrong on that one.

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Okay, so keep track of your score.

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Okay, all right.

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Zero and one.

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Mine is one.

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Yeah.

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All right, here's the next one.

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Ted Cruz.

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Ooh, interesting.

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Patriot again.

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Patriot.

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Yeah, there we go.

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All right, back at zero.

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Here we go.

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Here's the next one.

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Julian Assange.

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Ooh.

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Oh, Super Patriot.

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Patriot.

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Yeah.

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You get a half point for that?

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You said Super Patriot.

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Ah, come on.

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All right, all right, five, five, five, five.

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I'll give it to you.

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No, no, I don't want it.

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You got one.

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Don't give me your pity.

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All right.

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Your pity, Patriots.

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Bernie Sanders.

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Ooh, I'm gonna go with Traitor on this one.

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Vampire.

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Ooh, so close, so close, so close.

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Oh, I'm back at zero and one.

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Putin.

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Ooh.

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Oh, God, I don't...

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You should be able to answer this.

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I don't want it to come back to Patriot, though.

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It doesn't make sense for him to say Patriot.

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No, it probably doesn't.

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But the word, I will say, I don't want to influence you, but the word he does choose

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from all of our understanding of his feelings about Putin, you should be able to guess.

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This might not be the first thing that comes to your mind, but when you hear it, you're

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like, all right.

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Okay, God King.

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Nationals.

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Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

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That's still so positive.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

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So now we take a break from the game because this next one, there's no way for me to pause

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it when he says the name.

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So you just have to hear this one.

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Okay.

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Beto.

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Beto is the one that's going against this beast.

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Mental retard.

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I would definitely have gotten a minus one on that one.

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Anyway, I don't think that was where I was going to guess.

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Yeah, maybe I'm just going to go with that wasn't my first guess on what might have been

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said.

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Yeah, Jesus Christ.

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Wow.

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Even like all the legitimate complaints he could maybe have with Beto.

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That's that indicates your brain not operating on a really high level.

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Yeah, here's the next one.

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Bill Gates.

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Ooh, you might be able to get this one too.

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Oh, globalist.

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Eugenesis.

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God damn it.

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So close.

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Eugenesis?

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Part of the globalist plan, but perhaps not.

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All right, fine.

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Are you ready?

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God damn it.

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I'm like O and four now.

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What are you, negative four?

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I'm negative four.

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Ooh, no.

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Maybe you'll be able to get this next one.

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Okay.

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Elon Musk.

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Ooh, Elon Musk.

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You know what?

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Eugenesis.

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A scared man.

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A scared man?

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A scared man.

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Actually, I'm going to be honest, that's his best answer so far.

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Clearly, I think he might be right on this one.

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It's as close to an analysis as we've gotten.

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Elon Musk.

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Self-destructive.

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Seems shook.

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Yeah.

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Um, all right, here's the next one.

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LeBron James.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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Is it bad if my best guess is just the n-word?

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I don't think he's that drunk.

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But it's not much.

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Because it sure seems like that's where we're going.

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It's not much better.

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Retard.

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No.

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You understand though, like this sort of thing, that's code.

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That's such code.

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And also, by the way, we didn't mention it back then, but when he said Bernie Sanders,

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vampire, that's also good.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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So there's some insights.

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This is so interesting because Patrick Bet-David accidentally is like doing a real good psycho

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analysis of Alex here.

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And Alex, by his response, like, that's racism.

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You're just being racist.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And uh-oh.

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Oh, no.

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Don't say Colin Kaepernick.

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Colin Kaepernick.

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God damn it!

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What do you think?

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I don't, I don't, I don't know.

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I quit this game.

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I'm going to retire with the worst record in history.

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I quit this game.

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You don't get to quit.

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You keep playing.

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There's a bunch left.

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God damn it.

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Uh, you know what?

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I'm going to go with traitor.

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I'm going to say that he goes the patriotic route and he says he's a traitor.

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Interesting.

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Retard.

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God damn it!

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I knew he was going to say it again!

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I knew he was going to say it again!

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I knew he was going to say it again!

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I didn't want to say it, Dan!

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I didn't want to say it, Dan!

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Two black guys who Alex politically disagrees with are both retards.

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Shockingly, no one else labeled retards.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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All the people before that?

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Oh, I guess Beto.

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Right, which, god damn it.

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But also, one of the reasons that Beto is most relevant to Alex is that he is someone

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who is standing up and saying that the police are killing black people and that is unacceptable.

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So it makes sense that Alex would compartmentalize Beto into the part of his brain

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that deals with, I am racist.

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Right.

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So here's the next one.

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You might be able to get this one.

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Steve Bannon.

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Patriot.

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Traitor.

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What?!

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Traitor!

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What?!

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Traitor!

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Oh, so because Steve Bannon personally was traitorous to Alex.

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Okay, fine.

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And to Trump.

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I think you've stopped keeping score.

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Yeah, I'm at negative six.

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All right, here's the next one.

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David Brock.

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David Brock, owner and runner of Media Matters.

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All right, so I'm not going to go with, uh, oh shit.

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What did he?

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Oh, vampire.

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I'm going to go with vampire.

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Vampire.

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Yeah!

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Yeah!

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No!

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Beer, beer, beer, beer!

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No!

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Hell yeah!

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Negative five, baby!

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I wish I had an air horn.

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I do too.

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You dunked that one, man.

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I'm so proud of myself for that one.

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All right, here's the next one.

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Hillary Clinton.

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Ooh.

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Ooh, okay, he's going to, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with like, uh, arch vampire

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or something like that.

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Like a level above where David Brock is.

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Okay.

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You see what I'm saying?

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Like Serana's dad in, uh, in Skyrim.

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Exactly.

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Okay, interesting, interesting.

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Vampire.

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Oh, just a vampire?

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Come on, you're not going to differentiate between David Brock and Hillary Clinton?

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I feel like there's room there.

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Both vampires.

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All right.

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I could give you half credit for that.

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I'm going to give a half point for my, yeah.

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You already rejected that earlier.

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Yeah, but this one counts.

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Okay, fine.

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Negative four and a half.

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Barack Obama.

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Ooh.

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Oh, okay.

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He can't just say vampire for a third time in a row.

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Hmm.

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Um, I really don't want him to say the R word.

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Oh, that would be a little bit too much.

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Um, you know what?

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I'm just going to stick with vampire.

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Let's go with vampire.

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Vampire.

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Negative three and a half, baby.

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Jordan is making a comeback.

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I'm doing it.

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They said it couldn't be done.

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I'm going to get to zero by the end of this.

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I'm going to tell you right now, there aren't enough people to get you back to zero.

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You are going to have a negative score, but you could make this respectable.

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Okay.

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So here's the next one.

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Bush.

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Ooh.

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He doesn't specify which bush, but I would assume it's a W.

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Yeah.

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Uh, Ooh.

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I've narrowed it down to vampire trader.

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Interesting.

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Let me give you my thoughts on this.

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Okay.

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Talk me through it.

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Like, like we're doing Regis Philbin.

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All right.

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Now it could be trader because he doesn't want to say vampire because the Bush isn't

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like part of the globalists.

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He does think that he does think that, but they're not like the same part of the, like

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there are multiple sex of globalists, right?

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No.

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He believes they're all together.

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The Bush and the Clintons are there.

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He thinks they might as well be the same family to him.

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So don't, don't let that color.

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Now I'm leaning back towards vampire because now the reason that I was going to go with

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vampire in the first place was just because I feel like at this point, he is lazy and

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knows two, three words maximum.

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So I'm just going to go with vampire again.

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Vampire.

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Final answer.

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Vampire's final answer, Dan.

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Vampire.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Negative two and a half.

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Come on, baby.

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Doesn't it feel good?

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It does feel good.

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This is my favorite thing we've ever done.

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Oh God.

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So here's the last one, which is why you can't get back to even.

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Trump.

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Ooh.

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See, now this is again, he's, the obvious answer is like Patriot, but now I want it

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to be like, he's got to step it up a bit.

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Van Helsing.

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Like super Patriot.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm just going to go with, I'm going to go with.

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I want to stop you before you say your answer.

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Okay.

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Is there any way I'm going to guess this?

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No.

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No.

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Not a chance.

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Not a chance.

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Not a chance.

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Um, um, okay.

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I'm going to go with baby daddy.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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Um, when he said what he says, I got like shivers.

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Like I got like, Oh, Alex, you're crazy.

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Next level.

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Did you say next level?

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Next level.

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Moses.

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Trump is Moses.

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Oh yeah.

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Elaborate.

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What do you mean by Trump is Moses?

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He's the real fricking deal.

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My gut knows him.

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It's all clear.

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He's, he's pro-human.

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He wants progress.

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He is one of them.

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Just he's, I had everything and he's, he's dialed in the real deal.

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I guess they call that the liver.

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Trump's the deliverer.

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If we take it, we've already seen it.

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We've already seen everything suppressing us.

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And then as soon as he comes in grass and flowers and power, just everything's waiting

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right now.

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Wow.

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Trump is Moses, which kind of leads you to believe that the promised land that you feel

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that you're being led towards out of Egypt is a white ethno state because the things

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that have been happening that you're saying that like Trump gets in and then grass and

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there's only one way to view that.

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Yup.

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Especially one way to view that.

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Especially if you are, if you are a Trump follower and your idea is that he has brought

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grass back, there's only one thing that he has made far more popular than it ever was

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before him.

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White supremacy.

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And that's white fucking supremacy.

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That bums me out.

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It's fucked up that it's fucked up that Patrick like accidentally revealed this and

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doesn't realize what he's revealing.

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Yeah.

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He just revealed a very...

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And then the Trump is Moses.

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Like the fact that Alex's brain goes there is so sacrilegious.

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And then also it invalid, like it doesn't, it does a disservice to this interview that

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he doesn't like demand Alex specifically like, what do you mean by hold his feet down?

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Yeah.

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Be like, that is really crazy that you're saying that.

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What do you...

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He's the deliverer.

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He's going to lead us from what into what Alex?

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Exactly.

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Alex.

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From what into what?

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Now, when he says that Trump is next level and then Patrick is like, what do you mean

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by that?

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I need to make clear that all of these other ones, there was no explanation for any of

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them.

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I didn't just cut it off after he said vampire or something like that.

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That was the only one that he's like, what do you mean?

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So that's not good.

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I don't like the being alive now.

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That game was really fun until it wasn't.

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That game was really fun until it was the worst thing that's ever happened.

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So you got one more clip and this is how Alex ends the interview.

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The only thing that happens after this is Patrick Bet-David says, A, we've talked to

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him.

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You guys get to make your own decision and throws it out to the end.

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This is Alex's last words.

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You have to believe in humanity and if you just do that, everything else follows.

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So that's it.

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And that's why they don't like me.

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You ask that question over and over again is because I don't fear them.

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I've already been around.

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This is like Norman Mailer in the 70s.

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I've already seen where it goes.

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He's a bummer.

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And that's scary because they've not been there, but they will be there soon enough.

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They're going to meet their maker and they're going to face God eye to eye with pure consciousness

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and they're going to have to decide who they serve.

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Okay, cool.

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Cool, dude.

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You have just revealed yourself to be a Nazi apologist, very racist, religious zealot.

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Why are you surprised that platforms don't want you on when we've already established

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that you exaggerate stuff and sensationalize things and you very clearly, as Patrick says,

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you are dangerous to naive minds.

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He's dangerous to his own fucking mind.

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Yeah, and that's why I have that sort of little piece of my brain that thinks that he's going

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to hurt himself.

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He needs help.

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He does.

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He absolutely needs help.

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Yeah, and that's why it's really hard and I don't want to be in the present all that

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much because in the same way that I resist talking about Project Camelot episodes where

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someone is clearly like just manifesting like this is, you need to be hospitalized.

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I think we're getting to a point with Alex in 2018 where it's like, this isn't fun anymore.

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This is a crisis and the fact that no one is helping him is like a disaster.

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The idea that Patrick David allowed this out is kind of like, I understand where you're

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coming from.

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You want more clicks, but it's an irresponsible thing in terms of Alex's mental health.

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This is a disservice to him.

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The fact that his dad is his HR head and doesn't tell him, I need to lock you up.

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You need to go to a hospital for a weekend or something like that.

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The fact that Owen Schroyer works for him and doesn't say you need help.

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The fact that David Knight has been there for this long and has seen this deterioration

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and isn't like, you need help.

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The fact that Roger Stone isn't saying you need help means that no one around him is

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recognizing these very clear signs that he is becoming a danger to his own self and to

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his children.

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Or they're recognizing it and realizing that it's the best thing that can happen for them.

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Like, what could be better for Roger Stone than for Alex to fucking kill him?

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To flame out.

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Maybe for Roger, maybe.

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But these other people know.

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Yeah, I bet his dad would probably do that.

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His dad is his dad.

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His dad doesn't love him.

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I don't know if that's fair.

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That's so unfair.

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I know.

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I know.

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I'm just making that up.

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These people who are actually around him have a responsibility to take care of him in some

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way.

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And I know that that's like, every man is their own island and you're an adult, all

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that stuff.

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But no, he's manifesting signs of like, this is a breakdown.

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Yeah.

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This is, this interview is like, as hilarious as it is at points, like it's a clear indication

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of a deteriorating mental state.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And to allow someone to continue down this road is, like when Britney Spears shaved

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her head, people sent her to a hospital because there were people around her who cared.

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Yeah.

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You know, as much as-

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Well, then it took that long suggested the same thing is that so many people around her

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are also invested in exploiting her.

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Definitely.

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And her flame out is of course going to be certainly financially, but you've got to hit

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to a certain point.

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It got to a public point where it was undeniable that like these self-destructive tendencies

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are going to hurt the person we care about.

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Yeah.

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And anyone around Alex Jones, I beg of them, do what you need to do because the next couple

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months after this don't look good, especially now.

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I mean, we don't even know as we're recording this what the aftermath of PayPal going away

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is.

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We don't have any idea.

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The idea that this is where he was before he introduced the MLM scheme, before he's

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kicked off this payment processor.

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Yeah.

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Like the fact that this is where he was, it leads me to believe that as more shit happens,

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it's going to get worse.

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You have a responsibility.

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He has four kids.

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One of them is under two years of age.

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This is not okay on a human level.

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I hate to be preachy, but these people are doing a disservice to the world and to other

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people.

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Yeah, but how do you broach that subject when you believe, when you believe that no, I get

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that.

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I mean, like even for themselves, like if you are Owen Troyer, you can watch that and

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say, well, he's just defending what I believe in.

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Read Game of Thrones, be Jamie Lannister, be the Kingslayer or whatever.

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Be whatever you need to be.

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Well, if that had happened, somebody would have murdered Mitch McConnell 20 years ago.

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But I'm saying create a heroic mythology around it if you need to.

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Owen Troyer is the young gun.

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Let's say that he can create some sort of idea in his mind that I'm pure into this,

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but Alex is, he's going crazy.

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He's the mad king.

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He's lost his way and he's a danger to people around him.

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I will do what I need to do as much as it pains me to do to make things okay.

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Yeah, but what do they see in that interview?

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Like, what do they see in that interview?

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Like, we see what's obvious.

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No, I mean, I think even if you take the content out of it, the presentation, the clear affect,

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the way that he's like, I'm ready to die.

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I don't care.

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You put your family on the line when you need to.

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That sort of thing.

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That is true.

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Like, if I heard, let's say someone who I philosophically am mostly in line with, let's

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say a Sam Cedar or a Michael Brooks, if I saw an interview like this with them and they

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were talking about like socialism or they were talking about diversity and equality

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and they were presenting themselves like that, I would say, get them to a fucking hospital.

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They aren't okay.

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They're going to hurt themselves.

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Yeah.

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Whether it's through an accident or their own hand, it's not okay.

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And so what I would like to say at the summation of all of this is that we have all the evidence

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that we need that Alex Jones in 2018 is going down the deepest, darkest path that is available

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to him.

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Yeah, I think the Goldwater rule is thrown out the window after this interview.

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I think we're not psychiatrists.

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We don't give a shit.

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That's a good point.

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We don't have any professional responsibility.

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We're people who need psychiatrists, which gives us a unique perspective into somebody

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who needs a psychiatrist.

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Definitely.

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And it would be irresponsible for us to say specifically what the problem is.

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Oh yeah.

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But it's not responsible to say there is a fucking problem.

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I will say specifically what the problem is.

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It is big.

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And booze.

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There is a big problem.

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Booze is a big fucking part of it.

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Now, I don't pray for a redemption arc.

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Oh no, there's no redemption arc.

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I'm out on that.

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The only thing I hold out hope for is Alex Jones getting the help he needs and disappearing

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so he can be there for his family.

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Because that's really the only thing that matters to us.

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And it doesn't matter to us in a real way.

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Right.

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The reason that it matters is that they're innocent.

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They don't deserve this.

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And they don't deserve whatever is going to happen next in Alex's bizarre, I'm going to

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blow up and kill the New World Order narrative.

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Right, right, right.

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They don't.

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It's the next step is dangerous.

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Because when he got kicked off of stuff, his immediate response was, I'm going to go fuck

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with people in the streets.

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I'm going to go to Washington DC.

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So like, when it gets even worse, you don't think he's going to escalate more?

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Yeah, but you know, think about that two year old, right?

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When I was that young, my family was in a cult, you know?

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Think about how much better a comedian that kid will be because they were born in a family

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with a cult leader.

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I've seen Rex.

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He doesn't have much chops.

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No, no, I'm talking about the two year old.

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You got to get it young.

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That's fair.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know.

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Maybe we're going a little overboard in terms of like concern trolling or whatever.

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Like I don't, I don't think I'm coming from a sincere place.

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I know.

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But I know it does come off a little bit.

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I think it's possible for someone to see this as like me being like grandstanding and being

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like, hey, he's a danger to other.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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That's that's I don't know.

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I mean, imagine if all of the coverage of like Right Wing Watch and Media Matters wasn't

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like Alex Jones cries and gets angry and was more like Alex Jones reveals again why he

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needs psychiatric help.

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Like if we all just if we all just let all of our other stuff go, like we've already

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proved you're a fucking racist.

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Well, it comes down to leave that one alone.

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Now we need to get everybody on board with you going and seeing somebody once at least

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a week.

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Well, it comes down to me three times.

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I always like in a group.

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I always like to battle rap and dissing when I was younger.

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You know, like I'd listen to like the Scribble Jam tapes that I'd find and stuff like that.

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And I always thought that like disses were kind of like when they're well laid out and

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they rhymed and they were, you know, personal.

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They're always really interesting.

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You know, like it's, you know, there's a lot of examples.

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Who cares?

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But I always thought that the most potent diss track I ever heard was M.F.

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Grimm's The Book of Daniel, where he wrote this about M.F.

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Doom and how M.F.

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Doom had lost his way.

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Right.

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So this is a track that he had made after like he had gotten out of prison and he made

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it with the Monster Island Czars that were their old crew back when they were coming

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up.

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And the entire diss track isn't like you suck.

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It's all I love you.

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Why did you do this to us?

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Like you're making the key has a in one of M.F.

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Doom's songs.

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He talks about like how he was a part of a group called Midgets into Crunk, like making

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fun of M.I.C., the Monster Island Czars.

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Yeah.

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And then he's like, how could you ever diss us?

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We loved you.

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And the whole song is just a laying out of their history about how, like, I bought you

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groceries when you were struggling.

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Yeah.

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Like I would take a bullet for you.

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Why did you do this?

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Why would you ever like you?

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It's in the end of the song is like, come home.

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Yeah, I love you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Prodigal son.

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And I always think that that is much more deeply potent as like a diss than just like

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you suck for you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And to me, that is that's the spirit I want to come to Alex Jones in.

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Not that I love you, but you need help.

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Yeah, I'm with you.

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Come home, Alex.

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I'm with you.

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Anyway, we have a website.

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I was going to say that's the only way to wrap up the show.

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Yeah.

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Twitter.

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Yeah, knowledgefight.com, knowledge underscore fight on Twitter.

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Facebook.

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We are on there.

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We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.

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You should go home and tell your mother you're brilliant or you can join the group.

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I'm so thrilled with the growth that we've seen both in downloads and in support and

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in members to go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.

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It's a very exciting time for us to be doing this and I really appreciate everyone's support.

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We're also on iTunes.

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You can subscribe.

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You can leave a review, all that good stuff.

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Indeed, but Dan, before we go.

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It's hard to be sympathetic for Alex.

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Because there's one piece of information that you do need to know.

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What is that?

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Alex did technically kill a guy.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.