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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are. Dan? Dan?
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Hey.
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What's the farthest you've traveled at one point in one period?
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Like in one jump, like have you ever flown 10 hours straight?
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Yeah.
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Okay, let's move on then.
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No, I think I flew, I can't remember where we flew out of, might have been New York, to Paris.
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Really? Oh, that's a long flight.
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Where is it? I don't know distance as well.
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It's not short, I don't know exactly how long it was, but yeah, we had a layover in Paris and then went on to somewhere in Greece.
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Oh, okay.
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Landed somewhere in Greece.
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And then we took a little biplane, like a propeller plane, that's, you should never do that.
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That's so scary.
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That sounds amazing.
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It's so scary.
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I would rather fly on a biplane than Southwest any fucking day of the year.
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It doesn't feel right to be in a propeller plane.
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I know, it feels like you're spitting in God's eye, I get it.
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Yeah, it's rude.
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It's rude.
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So this is a-
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Is that your Yelp review of all biplanes?
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Absolutely.
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Rude.
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Categorically.
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Rude, sir.
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Absolutely.
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I'm bringing, I'm sure you're bringing this up because you just got back from your weekend in Maine.
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Yeah, I just wanted to give a quick disclaimer, I'm off a lot of travel and-
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Straight from the airport.
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Oh boy, oh yeah.
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And I'm straight off watching the first two hours of Summer Slam.
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So we're in the same spot.
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So we're both in a weird place.
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It's weird when you're traveling and flying where it's like you can get day drunk and then you go back in time because of the time zones and all of a sudden you're like,
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ooh, it is only six o'clock and I am hungover.
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That's weird.
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That's a weird feeling.
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I think a lot of people are experiencing that with the Air and Water Show here in Chicago this weekend.
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A lot of army planes flying overhead whilst people drink.
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Hey, isn't that great that we have a giant, massive military industrial complex advertisement on the weekend, that's nice.
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It is great.
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That is nice.
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So thank you so much for becoming a policy wonk, Simon.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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You can type it in Simon as your code.
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So Jordan, today I want to give you a little teaser.
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I've been back in the past in 2009 and I have gotten to the day of the teapot.
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No shit.
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But.
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We're not going to cover it today.
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You son of a bitch.
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I hate you.
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But that is an assurance for you and our listeners that the next episode will get us there finally.
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So there's that.
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All right.
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But I thought today on this Monday episode.
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I think I thought one of the things that would be good is like, I think at least once a week,
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we should check in on the present day and see what's going on.
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Just tip our little, like take a little peek behind the curtain and see what's up.
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And so today we're going to be going over the August 17th, 2018 episode.
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All right.
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And man, my mind was blown.
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This is, wait, what?
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From a present day?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Let's do this.
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There's a number of things that are going to happen.
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We're going to see on this show that, well, wow.
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Did rain bro snatch take over and host for the rest of the, she's not in play.
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Not in play.
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No.
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Okay.
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There's a lot of predictions that we've made about like, uh, you know, what's going to
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happen and stuff like that.
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I think, I think a number of our predictions are accurate, but something is going on that
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no one could have predicted.
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And I don't think anybody except you and I would even have noticed.
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Okay.
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So we, I believe are going to share some insight about what's happening to present day, Alex
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Jones, that you will not be able to get anywhere else.
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The first thing is that this commercial plays.
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Of course it has to do with money.
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Yup.
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Yes.
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Yup.
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There's some money issues.
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Of course.
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So this commercial plays before each chunk, the, I got these in chunks, like the hour
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chunks.
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Is it podcast?
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Yes.
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I got it in the three chunks, but it's just a recording of the stream.
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You know, it's just a recording of the broadcast.
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And each one starts with this.
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This hour by Frederick Remington, fully cooked, ready to eat bacon, exclusive, no refrigeration
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10 year extended shelf life bacon, the thickest media center cut bacon in the industry at
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fullycookedbacon.com.
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Fullycookedbacon.com.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Order me.
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Order me fullycookedbacon.com.
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10 year shelf life bacon.
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I want it to sizzle when it comes to my door.
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That's, that's pretty, that's pretty wild.
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God, we're returning to the Diamond Gusset days.
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That's what I'm liking now.
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He's got, he's got some ads that were very much not there before or have not been in
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the like last years that we've been listening, I had listened to the show and it would all
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be Alex Jones related commercials.
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It'd all be his products.
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Now we've got fucking fullycookedbacon.com.
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So now we get to the beginning of the actual show.
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He plays a long special report from Paul Joseph Watson, probably like a good four minute thing.
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I'm like, that is too long for Paul.
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Well it is about the merits of eating cured bacon as opposed to cooking it yourself.
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It's not, and actually where I decided to fast forward through it and I listened to
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it is like, he's like, you know, they're trying to destroy Western civilization and they're
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going to.
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I'm out of here.
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You've done, you've done your job.
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Let's move on.
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So we get in to Alex starting off the show and I think that there's something very familiar
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here, but at the same time I think there's something else that merits mentioning.
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It's Friday, August 17th, 2018.
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This is the second time within the first eight minutes of the show that he's played the final
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countdown by the way.
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There's only 81 days left until most important elections in the US history.
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We are the tip of the spear attempting to alert the American people in the world to
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the threat of globalism and the all out assault on Western civilization and America.
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Whatever you do realize the globalist have made a miscalculation and are committed to
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shut down this transmission with every form of assault you can imagine because they believe
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you're stupid and won't notice what's happening so they can bring in the draconian Chinese
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communist style censorship in America.
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We are here exposing it.
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They are scared of this information because it is the answer to their corruption.
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Again, thank you so much for joining us on this Friday global broadcast.
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So the stuff about him being like, we're the most scary and we're the, they hate us because
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we're the ones who can bring them down, very familiar.
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If you noticed at the beginning there, he's saying that the midterms are the most important
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elections in US history, which is exactly what he said about the 2016 election.
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It's not something that he said about previous elections.
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And the reason that I'm bringing this up is because we take a glimpse now into Alex Jones
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and it's really interesting to see him be what I describe as a political hack.
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You know what I mean?
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Because that's what sensationalist people do all the time.
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We heard that over and over again from people on the center right and center left through
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the 2008 election, even the 2004 election.
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You'd hear that from them, this is the most important election of all time because they're
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trying to juice up the base.
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They're trying to get people more excited and make sure the turnout is good.
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And now Alex is doing the exact same thing, which I think is conduct unbecoming of him.
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Like I know that I'm holding him to a standard that doesn't exist, but there's a mythical
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ideal that Alex thinks that he embodies that is above the rigmarole and the partisan politics.
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And he's not, he's just finally found his team.
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Now in his defense though, for his world, this is not hyperbole.
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Like what he is, because what's really going on in the, in the midterms now is, will Trump
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be impeached?
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Right.
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I don't like, that's the real situation there.
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I don't know.
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The answer is no.
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I don't think it's, I don't think it's that important.
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I mean, the midterms are important, you all should go vote, but I don't think that like,
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I don't think that the Democrats getting a slim majority in something is necessarily
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going to lead to impeachment.
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It should, but it won't because they're a bunch of fucking cowards.
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And I don't think that Republicans retaining it, while I hope that's not the case, I don't
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think that that's going to lead to running amok and signing all sorts of immoral legislation.
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I disagree.
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Any more than it already is.
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Right.
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Well, that's a better way of putting it.
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And it's not like they're going to not still try, you know?
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It's still going to be like, well now, you know, push.
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I don't know.
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I think it's incredibly important as I think all elections are fairly important.
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Yeah.
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But I don't say so.
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I'm not, I'm not ready to be like, if the Democrats lose this, it's the end of the world
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because that's sensationalist.
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I would say in all honesty, the 2000 election was probably the most important election in
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history.
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It set the ball rolling in a really bad path.
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That's for damn sure.
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Yeah.
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And how is George W. Bush still alive?
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Like shouldn't we have, shouldn't he be dead?
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He's a decent painter, man.
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But he's like, he lied and got millions of people killed on a lie.
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You can't just lie and get millions of people killed and that faces no consequences for
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it.
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Turns out you can.
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It turns out you can.
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He's a charming old man who paints.
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Let's kill him anyway.
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No, cause that's all he's ever been.
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You forget.
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Yeah.
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Well, at least let's kill Dick Cheney.
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That seems fair.
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And probably Dennis Hester.
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Is he still allowed to live?
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I think he's alive.
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I don't know.
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Did he get, did Trump pardon him?
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No, that would be, that would be a bridge too far I think.
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If Trump just is like, look, I'm going to push the boundaries.
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I'm going to see how crazy I can get.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How about all child molesters are free now.
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Epstein.
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I'm going to, oh dude, if he pardoned Jeffrey Epstein, imagine what that would be to Alex's
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narrative.
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Fucking yes.
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It'd be a disaster.
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I'd love it.
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I mean, not on moral reasons.
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No.
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It'd be a very undignified thing to do.
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So in this next clip, I think we see another thing that Alex is, like he is fully embodying
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a partisan hack in much more than like, in more, much clearer terms than he was even
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doing a couple months ago, I think.
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The left, as I've told you for 20 plus years, is brainwashed to hate America and is trained
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by the high schools, the colleges, the mainline churches, the culture, that America is the
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ultimate evil in the world because the globalists want a one world planetary government that
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controls America and other Western nations to enforce their planetary plan of absolute
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and complete domination.
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Sure.
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So the part that I'm referring to there is he starts out by saying, I've been telling
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you for 20 years that the left is brainwashed when dude, your entire platform for years
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was that the left and the right are the same, that they're equally bad and they are the
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same thing.
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Right.
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He's not saying that anymore because as we talk about a lot, the right isn't the right
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anymore.
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What is now the Republicans and the GOP is fringe crazies for the most part.
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The right is a disease now, it is not something that is like a political party, it's some
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sort of virus.
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Well, it's still a political party in some formal ways, but the political party isn't
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what the GOP of 20 years ago was.
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Right, absolutely not.
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It's something that is become beholden to fucking white nationalism and entirely and
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cruelty, just more and more white nationalism and cruelty.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's it's not it's not a political party.
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It's a exploitation machine.
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Yeah.
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George H.W. Bush raised taxes.
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Do you remember that?
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I do.
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Do you remember what it like?
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Reagan raised taxes.
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Yeah.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Weird.
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Do you remember when Republicans were like, maybe we should govern the country instead
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of maybe we should strip mine and make sure that poor people die in the streets is like,
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maybe this could go bad, which is not to say that Reagan did not do that.
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Right.
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We'll get to that in a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Alex actually has a really correct assessment of Reagan and a little bit.
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What?
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Yeah, it's weird.
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That's boggling.
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So Alex is in trouble right now, obviously.
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He's losing everything around him.
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He's being sued by multiple people.
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He's being talked about more than ever.
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And I think that a lot of people are talking about him irresponsibly, but there are a lot
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of people who aren't.
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And there's a lot of things that Alex has said in the past that's being brought up.
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And he doesn't like that because the things he said in the past were terrible.
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And so he's creating a version in his head of what's happening to him.
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And it's really interesting to see.
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There has to be a part of him that's like, no, you can't bring that up.
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That was when no one was listening.
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How dare you?
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That doesn't count.
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He was talking into a CB for truckers.
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Come on.
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That's on you guys.
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Look, I was drunk.
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I was blacked out since I was nine.
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So here he gets into what he perceives to be what's happening in the world.
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And he's not not correct on any account.
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They have decided to take me build me up as this monster and then use me as the first
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domino to fall to eradicate free speech in the West.
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That is all confirmed now.
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Law firms in D.C. have gone and looked at the statements by Democrats in Congress, their
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own secret reports that have concurred secret about next year.
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They plan to basically end the First Amendment in America.
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They're going to nuke it.
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How they're going to nuke it.
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This doesn't work like this.
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No, it works like that.
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You know what?
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If Obama was trying to get Alex kicked off Facebook, I would be on Alex's side.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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Like if it really was the government doing something like this, I would be on his side.
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Right.
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Right.
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And if it was like, let's say the president tweeted some sort of support for a private
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corporation forcing people to do things at the government's behest, that would be tyranny.
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There's no way that anyone would accept that kind of behavior from the government.
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No.
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That's anti-American to the core.
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It's weird.
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It's crazy how.
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That would be unacceptable.
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It would be unacceptable.
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And I would even say this, that if you were able to produce evidence that the YouTube
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and Facebook and mail keep, like if you could produce evidence for me that all of them did
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get together and say, hey, let's kick Alex off at the same time, I'm not sure I'm going
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to side with Alex, but it'll be a different conversation.
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Absolutely.
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I don't believe that they are working in concert.
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Like we've talked about over and over again.
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It seems very clear that one jumped and they are all were like, we can now have cover to
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do this.
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They were a bunch of cowards.
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And then one of them was like, eh, fuck it.
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And then.
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We'll share the heat on this and we'll all get through it.
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But not like in some way that they coordinated and had that plan.
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But if you could produce that, then I would have the exact same conversation that I'm
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already willing to have and that is that these companies suck, but it's still not a suppression
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of his free speech because it's not the government.
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If they did, if they got together, like if there was a backroom deal amongst the CEOs
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of all of those corporations and they all agreed on something, that's where we get into
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like torches and pitchfork territory, because that is tremendous overreach of a power that
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can't be allowed to continue.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Or at least you need to petition the government to like really get into breaking them up.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's an information trust in the same way that all of the railroads orchestrating prices
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in the 1910s was a trust.
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And again, without us getting too deeply down this road, I still don't think that there's
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a monopoly of access on the Internet or anything like that.
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But if they all got together in a backroom, that's a whole different conversation there.
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It would, like we got to investigate that.
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Absolutely.
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At least.
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Yeah.
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You got to do an investigation on that.
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At least ask some questions.
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Oh, also, hey, Bill Maher.
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This is so fun.
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What happened?
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Bill Maher came out and said like Alex Jones should be able to speak and have like he was
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like he was against Alex getting kicked off all this.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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He's still allowed to speak.
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No, but it's crazy because Alex spends so much of his time talking about how Bill Maher
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sucks and he's the voice of the left.
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Yeah.
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He's like Bill Maher is out there saying that humans should die off so there's less traffic.
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He speaks for the left.
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Now Bill Maher is coming out and being like Alex Jones shouldn't have been kicked off
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stuff.
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What do you do with that, Alex?
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Ignore it.
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Nothing.
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Pretend it didn't happen.
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Exactly.
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I have not heard him say anything about that.
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Surprise.
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Like I said, I took this from the podcast, but I did find the episode on YouTube also.
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Twenty-nine views.
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Suck it.
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Two of them were me.
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Suck it.
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Two of them were yours.
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Yes, of course.
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Of course.
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So that's my round-up of stuff.
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That's fewer views than a five-minute clip that I did six years ago has.
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So there you go.
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So I think we have some ideas about what should be done with these websites.
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Burn.
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To the ground.
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Eh, it's sort of, you know, it's a little bit of a middle thing for me.
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Right.
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Right.
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There's a complexity to it.
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I don't know.
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I never expected Alex to say something like this, though.
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We must stop this now.
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By Congress not having any control over the Internet, they have removed net neutrality.
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Oh my God, you're so fucking stupid.
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Obama calls it net neutrality.
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What that was, was bringing in regulations so these companies could censor whoever they
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wanted to have liability protection.
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Oh my God, you're so fucking stupid.
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But then they didn't put anything in its place, so then it became even more of a free-for-all.
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Oh my God, you're so fucking stupid.
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At the end there when he's saying free-for-all, he was struggling so hard not to advocate
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for regulation.
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Exactly!
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He's like, they got rid of the regulations that I didn't want, but they didn't replace
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them with regulations I did want.
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It's crazy.
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And then I think at the beginning there, he's really tipping his hand in a very weird way,
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that the Congress should control the Internet.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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You're so fucking stupid.
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You're so fucking stupid.
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It's bizarre.
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It's bafflingly confusing.
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It's exactly what I was in New Hampshire, and I heard four different people say, hey,
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we don't have any sales tax here.
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And then two sentences later, they were like, I'm telling you, man, our roads are garbage.
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And I was like, you don't get it!
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Just one-to-one.
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That's how it works!
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Oh, we don't have any sales tax, but our income tax is through the roof.
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Yeah, what are you guys fucking doing?
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So I don't know, he's kind of in a weird place, but it's nothing new for us or anything really
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interesting to hear him be stupid or advocate for something that doesn't make sense.
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But it is special to hear something like this.
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Put your mic down.
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Let's talk tough.
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Let's talk comfort.
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Let's talk about Down Home Value, made in the USA, blue jeans like you wore as a kid.
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Remember?
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There's a place down in Tennessee where they make blue diamond gusset jeans.
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They so fried in every stitch.
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Guarantee you love the way they fed.
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Blue Diamond Gusset in the crotch, where you need it most, Blue Diamond Gusset's got it.
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Others don't.
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For good old-fashioned comfort, get Diamond Gusset jeans.
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Hell yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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Diamond Gusset is back.
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It's back.
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So here is this.
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First of all, Jordan, it's so great to hear those songs again.
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Also, there's another Diamond Gusset commercial that comes on, and it's the president of Diamond
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Gusset.
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His name is David Hall, but the way he talks, because there's a little bit of a twang, it
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sounds like he's like, hi, I'm David Hogg.
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What?
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Diamond Gusset is run by a guy named David Hogg?
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What is going on here?
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So does that mean that while we were listening to the YouTube broadcasts, if you were listening
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on the radio, you would have still heard GCN commercials, like how CBS has local affiliate
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commercials where if you're watching on CBS Chicago or whatever, you'll hear local Chicago
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commercials.
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I don't know.
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But if you're watching in LA, you'll hear that stuff.
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I don't think so.
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I think that might be the case.
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I don't think so.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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Uh-huh.
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But it's possible.
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I think that more likely, he has had to revert.
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That's what I'm thinking.
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Although your theory is fairly decent.
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I don't know why they would have two streams.
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That's not nice.
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I don't know.
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Really decent?
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I don't know why they would have two streams, though.
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What do you mean?
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Where I got this from is one of the only places that that audio comes from.
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Right.
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But if he's not recording it to be released on YouTube now.
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So now he's primary.
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But it is.
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It is released on YouTube, but that's not his primary audience.
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No.
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So if he's not directly streaming to get to the millions, then he's trying to get as much
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GCN funding as he can.
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Probably.
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So if he amplifies the amount of air time that the GCN commercials would receive, then
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I assume he gets a larger cut, maybe?
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Perhaps.
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It's an interesting question to ask, though, because there is a decent chance that if you
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watch the YouTube stream, there wasn't a YouTube stream, but the video that's up on YouTube,
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that might not have Diamond Gusset commercials in it.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, you might be right that this is just what, hmm, maybe there's nothing to it.
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That's a bummer.
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You had a conspiracy theory, and then all of a sudden I come back with how the biz works,
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Dan.
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Well, I'm certain on any radio affiliate that he was on, he wasn't getting to play all his
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commercials during the commercial.
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Absolutely not.
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No.
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No.
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But...
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Because there's still local stations that have to have their own affiliate commercials
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as well.
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Eh.
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Oh, well.
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Blue Diamond Gusset Dreams.
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They might fit.
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They might not.
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Anyway, it's still good to hear those commercials.
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It's nice.
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Wonderful.
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But I do think even though it's not just the commercials that make me feel very weird about
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this episode.
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That is only one piece of it, and I think it fed into a little bit, but there's some
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other stuff.
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You'll see in a minute.
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Uh, in this next clip, Alex Jones decries the state of education in America.
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Oh, those motherfuckers.
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But now they've come out of the closet, the America haters.
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If you go to the universities, or you've been brought up in the last 30, 40, 50 years in
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this country, most schools, most government institutions teach America hating, Christian
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hating, capitalism hating.
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All of which should be...
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They give you a false history.
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You don't learn about the Trojan war, you don't learn about ancient China, or you don't
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learn about revolutionary war.
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You learn about America being racist.
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You learn about America being sexist.
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There's a deeper problem, and that is that the Trojan war didn't happen.
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They don't teach the Trojan war.
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That wasn't a real war.
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Like Heinrich Schliemann found the city of Troy and what have you.
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And there is like, Troy was, there was a destruction that happened there, but it wasn't nearly
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the city.
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It wasn't Homer.
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No, the Homeric tradition of the Trojan war is specifically just an allegory to talk about
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the rage of Achilles.
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That is really all that is.
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And to prepare, you know, get some more mythology going and shit like that, that war did not
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happen.
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So...
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Are you sure?
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If Alex is saying that people should teach classics, sure, but I don't think that's what
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he's talking about.
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No.
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Why is it that the schools are now pointing out how racist and sexist America is when
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they could be teaching fictional history?
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Right there.
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Well, he even says that they're teaching fictional history.
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I know, but he wants them to teach a different fictional history.
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Why don't they teach the real fictional history?
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Why don't they talk about how in World War II they had to fight Nazi zombies?
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Sure.
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Why don't they talk about the Ark of the Covenant that Indy found?
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Yikes.
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Why don't they talk about Jason 10?
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He was in space.
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I bet he even has a warped view of the fake version of the Trojan War, because I bet he
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just gets that from movies, too.
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Oh, of course.
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So, I bet...
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I'd love to talk to him about it sometime.
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I think all he knows is that Brad Pitt was pissed.
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Totally.
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He was mad.
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Sing Muse of the Rage of Achilles.
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Anyway.
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And how beautiful his hair is.
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You know what's real fun about that story when you really get down to it?
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Yeah.
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The reason that Achilles decided not to fight is because he had conquered a bunch of people
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and had stolen some women.
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And then the king came in, took the woman he had enslaved, and he's like, fuck this.
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I don't get to rape this woman anymore.
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I'm out.
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I mean...
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Look, I am against all the elements.
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I'm against all the elements of this, but that is a reasonable position to take.
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At the end of the day, you have to think of it as of their time.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Much like Philip K. Day.
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Exactly.
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Fair enough.
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So, on this episode, I would say a large portion of it is dedicated to Alex being really mad
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about Cuomo coming out and saying America was never great and we won't be great unless
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we deal with systemic problems of sexism and stereotypes and stuff like that.
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It was a stupid, poorly worded comment.
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I think Cynthia Nixon had the best response to it.
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It was like, you have just tried to sound like a...
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You tried to sound like what you think progressives sound like and you failed miserably.
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Which I think that is a great, like, boom in your face.
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It's amazing when you see these politicians who haven't had to run for their office for
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like four or five elections, all of a sudden, like, oh, I'll just dust off the old skills.
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I won an election a while back.
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I'm good enough.
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Hey, everybody.
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You guys feel like America should suck a dick all the time, right?
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We're progressives.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What?
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No, I'm alone?
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Oh, shit.
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In the wrestling world, that's what's called ring rust.
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He is sloppy.
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Yeah.
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Not good.
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And if you actually listen to that clip, what's really interesting is he says these comments
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and the audience is like, whoa.
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They are not cheering him on or anything.
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There's like a what kind of response to it.
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But later, Alex will present it as everyone's like, yeah, like they love it.
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That's not what that tape is.
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But he struggles with this this idea really superficially.
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And here's the beginning of that.
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Well, I think the worst part is this.
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You could say America wasn't great if you had a chip on your shoulder and a twisted
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view.
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I didn't understand the real complexities.
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You were ignorant that America was never great.
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I don't agree with that.
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It's obviously stupid and doesn't know history.
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Obviously.
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America, all the foreign historians, Japanese, French, German, Russian, Mexican, Chilean.
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They all said, yeah, just incredible, romantic background buildings, the construction, the
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invention.
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Nobody can build a Panama Canal.
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Two countries failed.
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We built it.
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Then David with the shy comms.
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We go in, fight countries, turn them back over to them.
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Nobody else does that.
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But you can sit there and argue, OK, we were never great if you're ignorant.
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So did you you were talking over it a tiny bit, but did you hear him say, like, we go
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in, we fight all these wars and then we give the countries back to people?
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No one does that.
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Yeah.
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Alex, most of your career is based on complaining about foreign wars.
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Yeah.
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But we get your favorite politician is only relevant because of his interventionist and
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pro weed stances, despite the fact that he's a flaming racist and has been decades.
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But like, that's his whole thing is anti intervention.
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Yeah.
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Alex hates foreign wars.
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And now the idea and even just a couple of years ago, you'd be complaining about how
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we've gone into all these countries and we're still there.
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Yeah.
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Now he's like, America is so great and our history is so wonderful because we go and
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solve problems elsewhere and then give the country back.
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I mean, does that if Chilean history historians agree that America is great, how can you disagree?
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He's invalidating everything he stands for.
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I know it's wild.
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It's nonsensical.
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Like he doesn't have to do this.
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There's no reason.
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I don't know what point he's trying to make other than he thinks Cuomo's stupid, which
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is fine.
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You could make that argument a different way.
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Yeah.
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You can do this.
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You can just say it.
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Sure.
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Or you just boo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think my reaction to that video is just like, eh, come on, man.
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It's one of those things that I think Alex doesn't have much he wants to talk about and
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he thinks he can tee off on this, but I think he's, um, I don't, he's in the weeds, man.
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Like in terms of what he's trying to respond to with this, like his, his versions of why
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America is great are that one, the war thing, which is against his principles.
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Right.
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Then we built Panama canal.
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Hooray.
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We didn't do that alone.
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A lot of people died.
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Two countries tried to do it and then we did it by ourselves, by ourselves.
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And then also he's like, then they gave it to the ChaiComs.
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That's not at all true.
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And then they're like, what?
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Okay.
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So, uh, we have buildings, other people have buildings.
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I think there's some other countries that have much more gorgeous buildings, much more
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impressive buildings.
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Don't you know how amazing the American buildings are?
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They've stood for centuries.
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As we all know, the greatest buildings of history have lasted for thousands of years.
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Oh no, no, no.
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You're thinking of Europe.
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You're thinking of, uh, oh no.
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Oh, okay.
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Pyramids.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh no, no.
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But those were the American pyramids.
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Right, right.
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The South American Central American pyramids.
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Well, that wasn't us.
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All right.
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But they were Americans in spirit.
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All the Chilean historians agree.
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Absolutely.
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And then his other version is inventions and sure we've invented some stuff, but when you
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look at the history of inventions, America is not in the top five.
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No, I'm going to go with China.
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China, India are like way up there in terms of inventions that embarrass us.
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Look, the Chinese invented whiskey.
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That's all you need to know.
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They invented everything.
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Pretty much everything.
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Everything.
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Yeah.
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Um, so that falls flat.
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Not good.
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I think what my response to that would be like, fair point about Cuomo, but then boo
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on everything else you said.
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You're just talking shit.
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This is nonsense.
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And that's not even getting into the nuance of like the parts of American history that
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are terrible.
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You know, we have not been a good country for a lot of the history.
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Well, one thing we didn't invent, slavery.
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Thank you.
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See, we didn't invent that.
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That was the Muslims.
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That was, it definitely didn't exist before 500 AD, which is, that's what Alex would say.
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It was the Muslims.
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Um, so, uh, in this episode, I'll say that the one thing I do enjoy is that Alex says
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beta cuck about three times.
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All right.
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I like that.
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Um, can we get, can we get a super cut?
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No, I didn't.
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The times he says them aren't really like worth it for a clip, but he does talk about
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betas here a little bit, which is nice.
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The land of the beta male, Brian Stelter's God, but the land of rebels, the land of freedom,
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the land of success, the land of alpha males, info wars is number one.
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We are proud to be rebels.
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We're proud to be hunted.
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We're proud to be attacked.
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I'm honored to be in the cross hairs.
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I swore before God that I would stand against the globalist and as long as God gives me
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strength and air in my lungs and my big red heart full of light, I'll march on forward
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stumbling sometimes, but always with grim determination, climbing the hill, always getting
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stronger even as I get weaker, even as I prepare to go into our final launch phase and the
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enemy sharpen their knives, I enter the arena with love in my heart and light in my eyes.
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Please support us.
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We'll be right back.
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That wasn't bad.
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It is what it is.
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The ad pivot, I find that far more refreshing.
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That was a genuine like, please support us, not like, and we got specials coming up.
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That was like, we believe in you.
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Well, there's one thing, there's another trend that I'm seeing here on this episode and that
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is that I don't think he's in control of commercial breaks anymore.
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That's not the best example of it.
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I think we have a better one coming up later, but he, on this episode that I listened to,
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was caught off guard by breaks at least six times, cut off in the middle of sentences
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by the break.
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No.
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Yeah, to the point where it's like, you have to be working on a different clock than you're
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usually working on.
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At least that's my presumption.
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It doesn't make sense because it's not like he's so full of passion that he's missing
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breaks or anything like that.
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He's rusty.
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No.
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He's rusty on the radio.
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No, it's that he's not in control anymore.
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Genesis Communications Network is now in control.
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I believe that he seeded that sort of thing back to them, whereas he was in control of
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it before.
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That's my working theory.
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Yeah.
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I'm not 100% sure on it, but it's so glaring the way he ends up like, not, because he would
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have, you saw the buildup going on there.
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I crawl and I grow stronger even though I'm getting weaker.
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All that, that's him leading up to an ad pivot.
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Yeah.
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And he gets caught off guard by the break to the point where all he can say is, please
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support us.
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Which you think sounds sincere.
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I think sounds like, fuck, I got a second left.
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That's what I think.
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And he can't skip a break anymore.
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No, he can't.
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So I believe that he's lost some control of his own show.
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That's my working theory.
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God, he's falling apart.
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Yeah.
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And I think the Diamond Gusset thing is a nice thing for us to see here in this in that
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I think that we are seeing somewhat of an unwilling reversion to the past.
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Yeah.
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So he's, he's like, this is on the podcast.
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Yeah.
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So he's just releasing the live radio cut.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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You'd think that he would have figured out that you can edit your own ads into the, into
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a podcast.
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You would think that.
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And that is actually part of my consideration of why I, I wonder about the ads.
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You know what I mean?
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Like that's part of why I'm, I don't know.
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I don't know what to think about that, but yeah.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip, Alex says something that I would, I would say is like demonstrably
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false.
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No, it's true.
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I don't think it's true, but it's one of those things you probably just shouldn't say on
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air.
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I think.
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All right.
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Let me take some time out here to just explain something to listeners who've been listening
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a long time.
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I tend to repeat a lot of things, even though I have hundreds of riveting videos and articles
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are all incredibly important.
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And if I was just trying to entertain people that I can make the show a lot more entertaining.
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In fact, on a one day a week call it entertainment news and by that'll be real news, but the
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stuff that's I think most interesting, like people shooting home intruders and a guy trying
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to acid attack people getting beat up by vigilantes and you know, just every five minutes, some
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riveting, incredible stuff.
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I could do that all day.
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Is that that's entertainment news.
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Is that entertainment news?
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No, I think extra is entertainment news.
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I think Mark McGrath talking about people's clothes.
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That's entertainment news.
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I don't think someone shooting a home intruder, you know, that's riveting stuff.
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What?
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Yeah, that is, that is a psychopath.
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That's a crazy, crazy person.
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That's somebody who's just like, Hey, let's play some ISIS beheading videos and, uh, and
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do wacky sound effects over it.
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That's like, it's like that guy.
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That would be entertaining.
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It's like someone saying that at a party, like that's what I'm feeling from Alex is
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the guy who's like, let's watch a beheading video.
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Go fuck.
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Get out of my party.
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Get out.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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But then the other part that I think is really fun is like Alex being like, if I wanted to
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make this show entertaining, I could, all right buddy.
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Good luck.
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Cool.
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Go for it.
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I love that.
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I think we would all like that.
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My goal is not to entertain.
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Also not to inform.
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I don't know what I'm doing.
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Trojan war was real.
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Go to bed.
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Go to bed.
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Um, so I like that that's become our unofficial catch phrase now.
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I like it.
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I enjoy it.
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Um, so in this next clip, Alex gets to, um, big, a big narrative that he has throughout
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this, uh, this episode.
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It's a little bit troubling, uh, in as much as that it is based on a real story.
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Uh, Alex has a terrible job covering it and, uh, I will do my best to pick up the pieces
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after he's done with this.
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But just like the illegal alien that shot Kate Steinle in the back and they virtue signal
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to San Francisco and said, you're allowed to shoot her in the back.
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She's allowed to die on her father's arms.
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Uh, just real quick in case people hadn't, haven't heard the episode where we talked
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about that.
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The guy's gun misfired or ricocheted off the ground and shot her.
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Um, and he was not charged with murder because it was an accident.
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Yeah.
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Once again, the issue was the gun, not the person.
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And the guns are bad.
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And the issue for Alex is that he was Mexican and she was a white person.
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If it was a white guy, he would go in detail with the defense of him.
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He wouldn't talk about it.
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He wouldn't talk about it?
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I think he probably wouldn't talk about it.
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He'd probably leave it alone.
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He's only trying to score points in fear of immigrants.
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That's true.
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That's all he's doing.
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That's true.
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You go free.
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They virtue signal and the judge said, no, it's racist.
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You're black and Muslim.
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If you'd have been white, you wouldn't get in trouble.
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An underground giant training base with the kids telling police we're being trained to
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shoot up schools and people that had disappeared from different States being held there and
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a three year old found dead on the property in underground tunnels who died in a ritual
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of torturing him.
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They're now reporting to bring forth the prophet Jesus and make him be reborn.
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Don't worry.
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The local liberal government has brought in tens of thousands of tons of sand and is using
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bulldozers to cover the compound.
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And they said, if you were white, you would not be in jail if a dead three year old reportedly
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killed in a ritual to make him turn into Jesus.
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And they're now releasing them on $2,000 bond, 20,000 that means you got to pay two, but
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the judge had a waiver, no money paid.
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Cash bond is evil.
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Do you hear what I'm saying?
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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I hear you.
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Um, so just to respond to one of the points before we get into sort of the meat of this,
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I would say, um, the idea that they're covering it up with sand and whatever, um, it's someone
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else's property that this camp was on.
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It's their choice.
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And they've processed the crime scene by now.
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They know all of this has been going on since the beginning of August.
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They've done everything that they need to do with the physical location.
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It's not like there's anything there that they've missed.
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So the idea is not that they're, they're not whitewashing something or covering it up.
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It's this guy's property.
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It's someone else's property.
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Breaking news, man, covers up, uh, gopher holes.
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So this is an issue where, uh, there was a group of, uh, of Muslim folk who had a compound
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in New Mexico that, uh, was allegedly being used where this guy was teaching kids how
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to shoot weapons.
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Um, and, uh, there was a kid there who died, uh, and apparently there were rituals that
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were being done because they thought he would become the next Jesus Christ.
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That'd be fun if he, if they were right.
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So I'm going to read to you from the CNN article to give you a little bit of a context of what
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this, uh, story is about.
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And then we're going to talk a little bit more about the important pieces of it.
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So quote from the CNN article, the family fled Georgia for a compound in New Mexico
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where they trained their children in firearms use.
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According to testimony, a child died at his father's hand during a religious ritual intended
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to expel religious demons from his body.
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Eleven more malnourished children were later found on the property.
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Family believed that once the demons were gone, the boy would return as Jesus four months
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later and tell his family which institutions to get rid of.
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A witness said those who did not believe their message would be killed or detained until
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they believed a teenager on the compound said, according to an FBI agent, there's no evidence
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that they killed anybody else, but all of them are charged with 11 counts of child abuse.
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Um, and there's, you know, it's, it's being dealt with as a very serious issue.
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That's interesting because that's exactly what happened with my parents cult and it
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was a Christian cult.
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Now hold on to that thought cause we'll get to it, we'll get back, we'll circle all the
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way back to that.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, they were being labeled as a militant violent Islamist group or Muslim group.
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Um, and quote early on the local sheriff called the suspects extremist of the Muslim belief.
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He later said that his statement was based on their appearance and he did not want to
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imply violence.
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So the very idea, uh, the kernel of where that came from, uh, is from physical prejudice.
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Now from a new Mexican.
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Now there are, there are children who were being mistreated there.
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Absolutely.
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Um, there were children who were reported missing in other States, uh, who were there,
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right?
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It's not clear whether it was parental kidnapping or, or something along those lines.
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There's a little bit of murkiness to that, which I, I don't care to unpack entirely cause
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I think there's a bigger issue with, yeah.
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So from the judge quote, the state alleges that there was a big plan afoot, but the state
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is not shown to my satisfaction by clear and convincing evidence.
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What in fact that plan was, uh, judge Sarah Bacchus said, the state wants me to make a
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leap and it's a large leap and that would be to hold people in jail without bond based
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on again, troubling facts.
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But I didn't hear any Kuwait plan that was being alleged by the state.
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So this is in response to like her ruling is I don't see evidence of the assertions
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that are being made.
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Yeah.
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Namely that they were training kids to be warriors of some sort.
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Um, namely, uh, one of the accusations of the prosecution was they were teaching them
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to do school shootings, um, and that was why they would be a danger to the rest of the
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public.
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What?
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Right.
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So you're going to have to have some actual evidence of that.
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It's almost like the burden of proof is on the government.
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Well it, unfortunately it is.
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And thankfully I believe that this judge was clearly saying that you have not presented
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proof of these things and therefore I'm not sure that it would be appropriate of me based
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on troubling facts to treat this as anything other than a child abuse case.
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So Alex is entirely ranting just about the statements that were made by the defense attorneys
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whose job it is to defend their clients.
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Well we shouldn't have those.
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They said things like, quote, if these were white people of a Christian faith who owned
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guns, that's not a big deal because there's a second amendment right to own firearms in
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this country.
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If these were white Christians, faith healing is of no consequence because we have freedom
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of religion in this country.
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But they look different and worship differently from the rest of us, Thomas Clark said Monday.
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So the argument that Alex is responding to and claiming that the liberal government is
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making and that if you were white, you would be in trouble, you wouldn't, blah, blah, blah.
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Trying to turn, like bring all that stuff in are statements that are being made by the
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defense attorneys whose job it is to come up with a defense.
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Right.
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And who are correct?
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I think that there's something to it.
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So here's the thing, three year old Abdul Ghani Wahaj died at the compound and his death
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is absolutely the result of a very least criminal negligence.
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Quote, the boy suffered from seizures, requiring constant care and medical attention, his mother
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Hakeem Ahramzi previously told CNN.
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After a trip to Saudi Arabia in October 2017, Siraj Wahaj, ooh, that's a fun name.
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Siraj Wahaj said he wanted to stop...
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He's my favorite rapper.
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He said he wanted to stop giving his son medication and perform rituals to quote, cast demonic
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spirits out of his son's body.
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This is not really too far off from Alex's distrust of psychiatric medication, his demonization
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of vaccines and his belief in literal demons.
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These are people who largely just took Alex Jones's beliefs and put them into action.
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Now why that's important is because oftentimes a dead kid is the result of the things Alex
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Jones believes in in terms of don't trust medicine and that sort of thing.
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Now back to your point.
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From the Washington Post, nearly one third of the roughly 600 grave sites in Peaceful
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Valley Cemetery belong to a child, advocates say.
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Uh, what?
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Spotty records make it difficult to identify how and why the children died before their
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burial at the graveyard used by the followers of Christ, a splinter sect that practices
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faith healing and believes that death and illness are the will of God.
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Do what now?
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The coroner and autopsy reports gathered by advocates and former church members' childhood
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memories tell a story of children needlessly dying from lack of medical care.
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Bruce Wingate, founder of Protect Idaho Kids Foundation, estimates that three to four children
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will die this year in Idaho alone if lawmakers fail to lift the state's faith healing exemptions.
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Linda Martin, a former church member and retired Lane County barber, said followers of Christ
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members issue birth control, normally give birth at home, and frequently forgo prenatal
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care.
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They often homeschool children and go without birth certificates.
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Making efforts to track faith healing death is difficult, she said.
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The culture and rituals of the church compound the problem, said Canyon County Sheriff Kieran
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Donahue.
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He said followers have not always alerted authorities after a death.
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When deputies are called, often they find bodies moved, washed, and redressed, and dozens
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of church members milling about the house of the deceased, he said.
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Martin said that after Oregon removed spiritual healing as a defense in 2011, some followers
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of Christ's church members moved to Idaho to escape scrutiny of their religious practices.
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Some people look at the Bible as applicable law, Jim Jones, former Idaho Supreme Court
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Chief Justice said of state lawmakers, quote, it is also the independence of Western culture.
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They don't like government telling them what to do, she said.
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There is this feeling that parental rights are absolute and religious freedom rights
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are absolute.
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According to the National Institutes of Health and the Journal of Pediatrics, quote, between
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1975 and 1995, 172 children died following faith healing, 140 of them from easily curable
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or treatable medical conditions.
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In one case, a two-year-old girl choked on a banana and showed signs of life for an hour
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before dying while her parents and other adults simply prayed.
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So the issue is that this is something that happens with the white folk quite a bit.
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That's not to say that it's not a real issue, and I think that these people did some really
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fucked up stuff, but to paint it as some sort of like a terrorist training ground or to
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say that it has anything to do with the Islamic faith that they followed is cockamamie bullshit.
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And even you said, as we were starting it, that in your community that you grew up in,
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that this was something that would happen.
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I don't know if deaths or not.
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Oh, you said there was.
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Yeah, no, there was.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's why the cult broke up is because they killed a kid.
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Yeah.
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Which, by the way, I think I really want people to get this taken care of.
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They did not watch a kid die.
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They did not do anything other than murder a child.
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They murdered that child.
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Here's the problem.
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They killed him.
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This is where we get back to the Mies Institute and the libertarian ideology because they
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don't believe that there is an affirmative obligation that you have to give your children
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health care.
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Right.
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So that means that there can't be a negative obligation or a negative consequence when
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you don't, which is stupid.
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It's such a twisted idea that you would rather watch your child die.
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It's God's will.
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Than ever, ever accept medicine.
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It's God's will.
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Insane to me.
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You're weak if you accept medicine.
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Insane to me.
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Although it doesn't take medicine to get a banana out of someone's throat.
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I would say that I would rather...
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Well, the Heimlich maneuver is against God's will.
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That's true.
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He doesn't like maneuvers.
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He hates maneuvers.
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He hates anything that has to do with parking.
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The Valhalla?
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No.
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Shit.
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What's the one where you yawn or the Valsalva?
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The Valsalva maneuver where you pop your ears?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would rather hang out with someone who's killed upwards of two people than someone
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who sat around and watched a two-year-old girl choke on a banana and do nothing.
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I think I would be cool with the murderer.
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Yeah.
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Because at least he's good.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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I've walked behind people walking too slow and covering up the entire sidewalk.
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I've wanted to kill before.
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You are fine.
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I mean, I still think he was a fucked up person, but I can't imagine the level of fucked up
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you have to be to see a child who is struggling for an hour choking on something that you
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could easily dislodge from their throat and you're just like, well, if they die, they
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die.
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And that's...
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So fucked up.
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And then they just move on.
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It's ununderstandably evil.
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So anyway, I don't want to go too deep into this.
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And also I should say that this is still developing to a certain extent with the court and what
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have you.
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And the reason that they let them off was because they don't pose a threat to society.
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There's no...
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They pose a threat to each other.
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Perhaps.
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But send them out.
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Perhaps.
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Maybe that'll solve all of our problems.
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We won't even have to process them as they murder each other.
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So Alex is mad about this idea that the judge let them go.
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But the reason is because, as she very clearly said in the quote that we read there from
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the article, the state did not do a good enough job of proving their case that they are a
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danger and therefore she must let them go.
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So Alex, if you believe in the rule of law, you have to believe in that.
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But unfortunately, you have different standards for white and brown people.
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You are only mad about this because they're Muslims.
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So enjoy.
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Which is inexplicably the thing he brings up.
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He's like, oh, and then there it's like, oh, this wouldn't happen if it was a white family.
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And you're like, well, you wouldn't be talking about it if it was a white family.
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You've got plenty of options to talk about white families homeschooling their kids, teaching
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them how to shoot guns, and then watching them die.
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You've got so many stories of this.
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This is a regular occurrence in the white community and you never bring it up.
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My argument to that is it's very explicable.
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You said it's inexplicable.
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No.
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Oh, and also just from...
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No, that's...
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I mean, yeah.
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Never mind.
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Just from June of this year, I'll read a little bit of this article.
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Quote, the parents of a baby girl who died because she didn't receive medical attention
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in favor of faith healing took a plea deal on Monday.
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Travis and Sarah Mitchell both pleaded guilty to criminal negligent homicide and criminal
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mistreatment, according to John Foote, district attorney for Clackamas County.
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So I mean, there's a nice white couple who did exactly the same thing.
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And I mean, they're going to jail.
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I don't like you describing them as a nice white couple.
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I'm saying it facetiously.
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The Alex Jones school of nice white people.
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So that's a mess.
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But congratulations, Alex.
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Unreal.
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Of all the things that I think are harkening back to his past self here, we still get to
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keep that hatred of Muslims because that's become so key to him.
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What do we got to do to teach people that religion is a disease?
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I don't know.
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I think, unfortunately, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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But I know that this wouldn't help.
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So Alex is still now he's back on Cuomo.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Back on home turf.
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So he thinks.
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Oh, boy.
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I'll tell you what.
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I tell you what.
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This is disgusting.
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This just is real bad.
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We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51 percent
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of our population.
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Really?
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What do you sound like?
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That is a total psychological warfare op to turn women into society.
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I noticed the NPR thing we talked about.
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Welcome to Madonna.
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May I help you?
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Because they're in a trance.
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I am Governor Cuomo.
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You get places because of me.
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America never great.
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It never going to be great ever again.
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So that's a commercial break there that he got completely caught off guard by that commercial
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break.
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He was lost in that too close to your Bernie Sanders, if I could be honest, a little too
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close.
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It was Bernie Sanders.
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And yet somehow even more offensive to mentally handicapped people.
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You know why?
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Because it was Bernie Sanders played on like three quarter speed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was like when you slow down the chipmunks too far.
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Also, bro, that is not what NPR sounds like.
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He's like doing that.
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So that's bad.
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That's bad.
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That's horrific.
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Not nearly as bad as what happens when he comes back from break.
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There is a war on for your mind.
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America will never be great and it will never be great again.
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I like first, this goes on for a while, but I love to imagine that he was doing that through
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the entire break.
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Yeah, of course.
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If I woke up to Rob, dude, I'd be like, dude, I like to imagine that he had at least one
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stop where he's like, so is that a good, is this good?
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Is that a good impression?
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Should I call Lorne?
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Yeah.
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I have to do three characters for him.
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I don't know.
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Bernie.
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Cuomo.
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And then I assume Elizabeth Warren.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Yay.
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We're not a cult of psycho scum.
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We're not weirdos.
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We're not dangerous.
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We love you.
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Cuomo, if you are a Christian.
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So that's also where he's pretending that the audience was like, yeah, we love it.
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You're doing great.
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Yeah.
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And in reality they were not all that into it.
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If you are a pro-lifer, get out of my state.
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Those are real quotes from two years ago.
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Bernie Sanders, it's up on Infotwars.com, there's a new article out.
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America now believes in socialism, we are going to do it.
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Come on.
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It is going to be good.
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I never worked a day in my life.
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I did not have a job until I was 40 years old.
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What about a government job?
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I honeymooned in the Soviet Union where we could have a way with Christians.
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Are we sure this isn't his Ruth Bader Ginsburg impression?
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You have to understand when you're as ugly and stupid as I am, all you want to do is
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screw people over.
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And I will do it.
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Don't you worry about that.
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I mean, this sounds like they've had a bigger lobotomy, Cuomo or Sanders.
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I mean, let's play this one more time.
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America was never that great.
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Is he playing it?
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No, but hold on.
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You have to pay close attention to what he says in this character.
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That great is more like America never that great and America never going to be great
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because we're mean to the women.
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We put them in burkas, we chop off the genitals, we sell them into sex slavery.
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They have the highest rate of college education.
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They live in the middle of the character, by the way, it goes on even later.
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Why is it, why is it mistreating women for them to have the highest rate of education?
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Because he's not good at making points and juxtaposing things.
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So within the same character voice that he's supposing is this stupid guy, he brings in
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like his narratives about why Muslims are bad to women and then brings into why America
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is good to women in terms of a lot of good to graduate college.
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But it's not, it doesn't work in terms of that character.
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The character has to either do all one or all the other.
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You can't have it both ways because if it's all the things that America is great about
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for women, then it's lampooning, it's parody.
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But if it's all the things that Muslims do that are bad in Alex's conception, then it's
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a caricature.
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Right.
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So he, but he's trying to mix both of them.
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It's very clunky.
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Well, he though believes that colleges are there to brainwash women.
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So in his twisted worldview, that does make sense.
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It does, but that's, that's an interesting thing to unpack.
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Yeah, there's a lot going on there.
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Because he does credit like countries for having like a lot of women who go to college
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as a positive thing.
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Although they're, they're elsewhere.
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They're elsewhere.
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He does say that it's bad to go to college.
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Fucking stupid.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of, there's a lot of like you scratch right below the surface and it's none
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of this makes sense.
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Somehow this is a, I don't know who exactly that voice is offensive to other than like
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eight or nine different groups.
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Well, two specific people, Cuomo, Sanders, yes.
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Bruce Bader Ginsburg, of course, perhaps.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to go with anybody who could do good impressions.
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James Adomian, probably not thrilled with that either.
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Also just, you know, any, any, anybody, anybody, anybody that doesn't speak English the way
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he does.
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There's a little bit of that New Yorkers, New Yorkers, any immigrant mentally handicapped,
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of course.
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You know, all of that is, is wrapped up in who should be, and me, I'm offended by it.
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It's horrible.
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But also I'm offended in the same way that Tamnik should be.
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But cause you do a great Bernie.
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As good as Alex.
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So in this next clip, Alex lies a whole bunch about things that are going on in the UK and
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then I will explain on the other end why it's a lot of bullshit.
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UK's criminal prosecutions at record low despite crime near all time high.
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That's an article up on infowars.confluentandtelegraph.
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Prosecutors have reached an all time low despite crime soaring in a new record.
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High official government figures reveal the number of people dealt with by criminal justice
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system in England and Wales fell 7% in the last year while record crime shot up 11% to
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5 million, mainly acid attacks and stabbings.
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We'll go back to the acid attacks and stabbings here in a second, but there's some pretty
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just really reasonable ways you can get around this.
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One of them is that there are repeat offenders and stuff like that.
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People who commit multiple crimes and that's something you should factor in there.
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They're dealing with less people and there are more crimes.
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That's one way you can do with that.
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Also in the last couple of years in the United Kingdom, they've instituted a lot of new recording
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policies for the police and that has led to quite a rise in reported crimes that were
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going unreported before, so naturally you would see a rise in reported crimes that necessarily
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weren't all getting solved.
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If you look at it in terms of the United States, you probably see a very similar trend in terms
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of... or in times that we've had criminal reform, police office administrative reforms.
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How many times have we seen in the past of let's say a sex worker gets murdered and they
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say it's a suicide or something like that so they don't have to investigate it and so
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it doesn't fuck with their stats.
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When we instituted the... what was it, the stat policy or whatever that most police forces
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in different cities had to now keep record of their stats and if the stats went up too
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high then you had to do this whole thing and rather than improve, they just were like well
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let's cheat the stats.
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That makes more sense.
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You end up doing quota busting.
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Exactly.
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So I looked into this because I was very interested.
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The acid attack stuff is such a common narrative to spread fear about Islam.
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There is such... it's consistent through Alex Jones, Tommy Robinson, all of these people.
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They always talk about acid attacks.
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It's so fucking regular with them and I'd never really done too much looking into it.
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I always just assume that they're over-inflating things and there's not that many acid attacks
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but it turns out there are a bunch but from the BBC, quote, there's a common understanding
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of acid attacks in the UK that goes something like this.
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The attacker is male, the victim female.
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Both are South Asian and I should point out here, I looked into official UK statistic
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keeping, South Asian and Asian are categories that include Middle Eastern.
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They don't have a separate category for Middle Eastern.
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They just have black which includes African and Caribbean, white which includes all the
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sort of European ethnicities, Asian and mixed.
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Those are the categories that they have in terms of official record keeping.
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That's a conversation that needs to be had but not right now.
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No, I agree.
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I agree.
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I wasn't charmed by the fact that those were the categories.
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That's weird.
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That's a weird system.
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But I don't run the UK police system.
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Is that part of the metric system?
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No.
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I don't think it is.
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It's a base 10 and a base 4 on ethnicity?
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No.
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So there's a common understanding of acid attacks in the UK that goes like that.
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Attackers male, victim female.
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Both are South Asian and the violence has something to do with the man's so-called honor.
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Statistics released by London's Metropolitan Police to the BBC provide a breakdown of every
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recorded acid attack over a 15-year period by age, gender, ethnicity, borough, hate crime
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and outcome.
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This is the fullest picture yet of the capitals, suspects and victims.
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Here are the stats that it showed.
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The suspect was male 74% of the time and the victim was male 67% of the time with only
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one attack ever being related to the idea of honor.
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Quote, in many regions of the world, most attacks relate to gender violence, said Jacques
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Shaw, the executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International.
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Quote, these attacks are often linked to rejected sexual advances or marriage proposals.
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However, this does not appear to be the case in the United Kingdom.
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Acid attacks are on the rise in the UK, though, so what's causing it?
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Quote, this is likely to be related to a rise in moped gangs, according to Dr. Simon Harding,
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associate professor in criminology at the University of West London.
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He goes on to say, quote, we've had acid throwing in this country for over 200 years and there's
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been a new development of it, said Dr. Harding, but it's not new and it's not important.
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So it's just a phenomenon that apparently is a part of London crime or English crime
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that is sort of foreign to our ideas as something that's very common to Americans.
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So it's like the idea of, almost like the idea of a tipping point, like at a certain
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point it becomes a thing that somebody has done and then it becomes an option for so
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many other people to then take.
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Sure.
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Like it's a trend.
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It's like a fad.
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For 200 years fad?
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Well, I mean like the recent uptick is my point there.
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Yeah, perhaps, but I don't think that from the data I was able to find, the uptick is
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not that large, pretty overblown.
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But the number of people who end up getting acid thrown at them is not nothing.
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That's, what?
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It's weird.
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What are you doing throwing acid at people?
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I know I'm not the one to judge since my country shoots everybody all the time, but come on,
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acid?
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It's weird.
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It's weird.
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But also, like you see here there, the victim being male 67% of the time is pretty counter
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to the narrative that Alex and his-
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Yeah, that it's a Muslim honor situation.
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Right, and which is such a huge part of their propaganda against Muslims.
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And the fact that it's not a uniquely, as the British would categorize it, Asian crime,
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it should give some pause and make you think, there's a different story that you could tell
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here that's interesting and like, let's get acid away from people.
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It's not so much like the Muslims are running amok and dumping acid on everybody, which
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is what Alex would want you to think because that makes them into a Batman villain.
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I can't think, I can't visualize this any other way now than like a bunch of guys riding
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on mopeds with a pot that's filled with acid and then they toss it.
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Either that or now I see a squirt bottle, you know, like a ketchup dispenser-
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Oh, I thought you meant like a super soaker.
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Yeah, so maybe.
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Yeah.
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How strong are super soakers?
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That's the first question we need to answer.
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It's super soakers.
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I think that's a more whimsical, fun version of what's probably a horrible reality.
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No, I'm sure it's, I just don't.
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So now-
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It's dudes.
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Let's distill this once more back down.
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No, no, no.
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It is not-
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74% dudes are the suspects.
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That's still a solid dude amount.
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True.
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It's dudes.
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Not entirely, but considerably dudes.
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Three quarters dudes is too many dudes.
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Right.
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So now about stabbings.
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There's another thing that Alex always brings up because that's his way of-
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Why do you need gun control?
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Your people are going to find a way to stab each other.
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Now, stabbing statistics in the UK include knives, broken bottles, sharp objects.
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Right.
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I should note that it does not include-
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The HBO series sharp objects as well.
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And if you've killed anyone with a DVD of Peaky Blinders, then that's in there too.
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DVD dance.
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Blu-ray.
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So, according to official data from the UK Parliament, quote, 2017 saw an increase of
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knife-related assaults.
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But to put things in context, the 2017 number is only 6% higher than the level seen in 2010
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to 2011.
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Further, the rise from 2015 to 2017 is, quote, directly related with improvements police
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made in recording practices.
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So that is another issue where you see an upswing and you can make a lot out of it if
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you want to, but if you get to the root of it and you look for explanations, what you
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find is that that's why there are more of them.
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Right.
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And the fact that six, seven years ago is almost the same as now, there's a little bit
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of a dip and then it came back up.
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But if you're going to blame Muslims for all of this violence like they are so want to
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do, then you have to explain why it was at that high in 2011.
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Is it possible that there were deficiencies in reporting that happened over the last couple
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of years?
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And I don't know.
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We get back to maybe this is a demagogue spreading propaganda, perhaps.
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And also, interestingly, there were 215 knife-related homicides in the UK during the year 2016 to
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2017.
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How many gun deaths were there in the United States?
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More than that.
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But that-
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217?
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But that number, the 215 knife-related homicides in that year, Alex tries to present this as
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like there's a giant upswing in knife murder.
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So we're talking 6%?
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So that's 12.
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There were 12 more-
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Well, no, no, no, no.
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That's just entire knife violence is the 6% from 2011 to 2017.
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Homicides is like four.
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Well, so there's 215 2016 to 2017.
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Yeah.
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It's only two more than there was from 2015 to 2016.
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There isn't really an increase, a substantive increase in these crimes.
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There's only things that you can sort of cheat statistics and come up with your own explanations
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for it.
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Well, you give a percentage and that is way, way more intimidating than the actual number.
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Sure.
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I mean, it's something like all knife attacks and assaults, they're up like 20%.
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But again, a lot of that can be attributed to specific improvements that they've made
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to recording practices.
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So some of that can be taken away from that.
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Some of that can just be considered perhaps incidental.
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There's a certain amount of it that's statistically irrelevant.
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So you take away some of that percent and then you take into account that it's not just
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Muslims that are stabbing people, it's generally speaking-
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Dudes.
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Dudes.
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And then also, I mean, statistically, we have the same issues here.
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The stats that you can get about offenders are generally who got arrested for things
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and you see a marked higher incidence of black people being arrested.
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So it's kind of tough to figure out what the actual story here is.
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But from all the statistics that are available, it's not as big of a wave of knives all over
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England.
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Here's another issue.
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A wave of knives and acid.
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That's all propaganda and nonsense.
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Oh shit, once they find a way to make knives out of acid, we're fucked.
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Here's another telling point.
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When you use 6% in America, like say there's a 6% rise in gun violence in America.
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That means there's what, 4,000 more incidents?
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In England, as you pointed out, a 2% rise is two dudes.
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That's the kind of thing-
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Well, that's all the homicide.
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No, I know what I'm saying.
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But the point there is because we're so used to so much violence, that kind of small percentage
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and uptick, to us means so much more than it does there.
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Also, just to put things in a little bit of a broader perspective, 215 knife-related homicides.
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In the same year, there were 116 that were just people who got beat, and 134 that were
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strangulation.
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Four that were drowning murders.
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Like what kind?
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I don't know.
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They don't explain it.
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They don't classify it into cinder block drowning versus-
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No, I just saw it in a chart.
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I don't know the details.
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And actually it might be two.
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I can't remember if it's two or four.
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I didn't write that one down.
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Anyway-
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It's hard to drown somebody.
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If you drown somebody, there's a certain amount of respect I have for you there.
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It is an ineffective, inefficient murder.
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No, it's an inefficient murder.
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That's a great way of putting it.
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So, Jordan-
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It's even hard to stab somebody to death.
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It takes a lot of stabs or a really good stab.
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True.
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We see a very consistent thing in Alex in terms of lying and missing the forest for
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the trees in order to demonize minorities at the expense of glorifying white folks and
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making white people feel more in danger.
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That's very consistent.
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So now we see these newer things like him not being able to time his breaks right.
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We see Genesis Communications ads coming in and whatever the case is with that, whatever.
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This next clip is where I was like, Alex is becoming his past self.
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There is no way that anybody who listens to our podcast will hear this and not be like,
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this isn't 2018.
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What the fuck?
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Oh, shit.
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Are you gonna sing?
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Always tell how Poncho felt.
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No!
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From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones.
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I can always be down with this little Merle Haggard.
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He left his living in cheap hotels, the desert's quiet, Cleveland's cold, and so the story
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is we're told, Poncho needs your prayers, it's true, just keep a feel for left it to.
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He's feeling wistful.
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That's for sure.
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He only did what he had to do, and now he's grown old, and now he's grown old.
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Because he still doesn't know how to time the lyrics.
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You do share one thing in common with Alex.
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Get right to the news.
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What's that?
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You love to sing along with that song.
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Poncho and Lefty's a jam.
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It's crazy.
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It's like a Bruce Willis, what was the name of that movie?
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I don't know.
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The one with the Mr. Glass duets?
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I don't know.
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That was a Gwyneth Paltrow movie.
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And Huey Lewis.
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And the news?
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No news.
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No news?
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Alex has to get to the news.
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He does.
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Well, the entertainment news.
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It's crazy.
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He's been doing this for a decade, singing along with Poncho and Lefty.
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But he's not doing that, because I'm listening to the feeds.
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That is very different than current day stuff.
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I'm not just creating something out of nowhere here.
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I have not heard him sing along like that since the episodes that we're listening to
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deep in the past.
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I think Alex Jones is getting...
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I think he might be starting to come to terms with the fact that...
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He's back on his own turf.
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I'm gonna be what I was again.
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Best case scenario, I'm gonna be back to where I was 10 years ago.
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I had a good run.
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And that's why even Poncho and Lefty thematically is such a good song for him to be wistfully
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singing along to, because he's like, he only dared what he had to do, and now he's growing
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old.
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His subconscious is coming out.
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Absolutely.
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There's almost like a piece of it that he's singing along to.
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It's almost diegetic songs to his life.
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It's almost like it's thematic.
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It's crazy, man.
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On some level, he gets it.
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I think he does.
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And I think he's hoping that it doesn't go bad, so he can still do this.
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He's gonna need to cut his overhead.
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That would be my advice to you, Alex, right now.
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Get rid of that studio.
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Shroyer.
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Hit the bricks.
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Get rid of the studio.
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Get back down to your basics.
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I mean, he might have to.
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Yeah.
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It'd be interesting, because I could always use a little bit of that singing.
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So I told you earlier that Alex was gonna say something correct about Reagan.
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Yes.
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Let's get that out of the way.
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But one thing Reagan did wrong was they did defund the state hospitals in the early 80s.
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Good work.
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God almighty, help us.
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I mean, whack jobs, people.
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So it's not a little judgmental there.
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You ruined it.
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You didn't go the correct way, but you did get it.
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You did.
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You kind of got it.
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Your criticism of Reagan is correct.
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Yes.
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Now, the way you proceeded is disgusting.
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But this is in reference to those people who had the compound in New Mexico.
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He's talking about them as complete whack jobs, and here's where he goes with it.
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Still complete whack jobs.
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They only found the baby yesterday.
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Remember, the early reports were there's a dead body of a child died in the affidavits.
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The cops filed.
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The state police and the local police, they're like, don't release them.
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The kids all told us, and they found the dead baby.
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They found the dead three-year-old, just like the kids told them, and they're still going
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free.
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Because they're signaling to their people to whatever you want, go crazy.
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We're going to let you out.
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Just like Benton Parton said, he said the left wants to release all the criminals to
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go wild.
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I'm like, roll my eyes.
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I'm like, we got too many prisons, General.
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He's like, yeah, that doesn't matter.
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I'm talking about leftist operatives.
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They've built all the prisons to train the people, Jones, and I was like, obviously he
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was smart.
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I was young.
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I haven't plugged the salary.
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We don't thought this would be shut down.
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It's that simple.
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We have a bunch of incredible products, the best fish oil, the best fish oil for your
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kids, Honor Roll, the best krill oil.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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Krill oil?
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Krill.
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Krill oil.
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Are people whales now?
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Yep.
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Look, dude, I mean, that's a pivot.
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Nice.
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Well done.
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Yeah.
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Mediocre.
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Yeah.
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It was desperate, but again, I think he's realizing he's up against the brakes and his
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timing is off a little bit.
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Yeah.
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But the thing that, he's talking about General Ben Cardin, I believe, is P-A-R-T-I-M.
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And so earlier in the show, he told a story about having dinner with him and he's saying
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that, so what the commies want to do, these commies on the left, the John Birch Society
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is totally right.
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Yeah.
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What they want to do is make sure that the death penalty goes away.
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So whenever their operatives go out and foment the revolution, they can get them out of prison,
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which unlike that plan stinks.
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That's a long-term plan.
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And getting rid of the death penalty ain't going to help with that.
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If there's a revolution, get everyone out of prison.
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You don't need to do that afterwards.
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I don't know why.
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You have to change the rules before him.
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I don't know.
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Very stupid.
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I don't know.
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So I looked into Ben Partin and it turns out he's a guy who's only really notable in any
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way because he was a pretty early Oklahoma City bombing skeptic, let's say.
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Great.
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Great.
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And his claim to fame was he put out a report where he claimed that the bomb that Timothy
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McVeigh would have had would have been too small to cause that kind of damage.
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And unfortunately, other people have done reports that have been very based in physics
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and science and measuring the crater that happened and the diameter and depth of it.
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And they found that absolutely it could have.
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So he is basically just a discredited Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy guy.
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Is he an actual general?
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Yeah.
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I didn't look into his career.
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But from what I understand, yeah, he actually was in the service.
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But that's one of the other things that we need to really take into consideration is
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just because someone's like a former FBI agent or an Air Force colonel or general, that doesn't
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mean they're also not crazy.
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You know what I mean?
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A bunch of the people on Carrie Cassidy's show have actually been in the service.
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A lot of them are lying about it too, but some of them actually have been.
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That doesn't preclude them from also being opportunistic liars.
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Yeah.
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So I don't I don't care.
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I don't care.
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I don't.
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I mean, like like when people talk when people talk about Trump revoking security clearance
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for these people, I like fuck them.
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I don't give a shit.
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I disagree.
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I think that's very dangerous.
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You think so?
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Yeah.
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And the reason is because it's an implicit threat.
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It's a it's not about John Brennan losing his security clearance.
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It's a message to other people who might speak out against him.
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Yeah.
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And I don't think that there's any other way to interpret it because Trump has even said,
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I'm going to get rid of other people's security.
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Yeah, of course.
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It is a threat from a despot who's saying that I will because it's not just former people
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he's going to take clearance away from.
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It could be people who already are in who are still in the job or whatever.
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If they have their clearance revoked, they are fucked.
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They can't do their job.
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You know.
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Weird.
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Right.
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You see, he's just that's one of those things that you don't know until it happens.
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I didn't know the president could just do that.
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I guess he can.
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Like, is that a thing he can do?
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Can he do that?
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Why couldn't he?
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I don't know.
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I don't know why he could.
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It seems like a random ass thing to have that power.
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Did somebody just.
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He's the executive man.
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He's the commander in chief of all the forces.
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Why wouldn't he be able to just be like, all right, fuck you.
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That's a bad idea then.
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It's pretty bad.
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We did not see that.
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How did they not see that coming?
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Well, it turns out we had normal checks and balances in place.
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Oh, yeah.
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Not weird.
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Checks and balances.
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I know.
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Right.
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We were planning on playing weird.
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So many people just like that's why the Constitution people calling it like a perfect document
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is like, no, no, no, you don't you don't get it.
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People are fucked up and they'll find a way to do some weird ass shit that a lot of people
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who like to wiggle.
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Who would you who would have you even have imagined that like what what what president
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what person what founding father is writing the Constitution like, well, eventually we're
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going to have top secret clearance.
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Of course.
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Right.
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We need a plan for that.
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Totally.
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This is our first Constitution.
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So we got to you know, we tried the we tried the Articles of Confederation that had zero
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security clearance provisions in it.
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So we got to write that.
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You know what?
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I assume that the president of the United States will probably like America.
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The president will always be a chill dude.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's fine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you know, what's really fun about it is like, yeah, I think that we do have a problem
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and that we probably do need to tweak in some ways the Constitution.
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We need to get a lot of wick.
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But the problem is, again, except Nazis will never agree on anything.
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So the idea of being able to change it or even ever having another amendment is crazy.
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Yeah, it the Constitution is set in stone by virtue of the fact that we can't agree
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on shit.
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But yeah, there's a there's going to be a civil war before there's another amendment.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, I would I would agree on that.
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I don't think that that's likely either.
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But I would say that would come before.
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Yeah, because people need they need to be jostled into the reality of like this system
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is stupid and untenable.
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But who knows?
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Anyway, this next clip, I gotta say, blew my mind.
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Okay.
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Because this info wars made this, okay, they edited this together as a bumper to come in
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from commercial with.
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Politically.
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And we're not backing down at her.
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I want to get these people.
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We're waiting.
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I can feel the spirit rising.
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Can't you?
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We have broken their back.
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Yes, I can feel it.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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That part wasn't edited.
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That was Alex saying that as the next little bumper coming in kicks in, that is crazy.
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The fact that that's how you want to represent yourself is nuts.
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Do you know, do you realize how very close that is to the drop we have for the Raptor
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Princess?
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That's exactly what I was thinking.
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That's the same fucking shit.
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What are you doing?
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You're making yourself look like an insane person.
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We were doing that.
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God damn it.
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Makes me think you might listen.
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It's like, I want to try that.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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The other thing that I love there is like when he's, come out, come out, come out.
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That's when he's singing along to Nugent, but it's so close to, it makes me think of
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Adomian's Lycus, his Tom Lycus impression, come out.
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I like that more than anything he's done in the past two years.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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But that's all like whoever's behind the scenes.
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I was like Darren McBreen editing that together or something like that, but like the impulse
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seems so strange to me, especially since it ends with like, there will be fire, you're
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going to hell and stuff like that.
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What the fuck?
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Yeah.
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Sounds great.
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I have a fairly long interview with Sebelle Edmonds on this episode and I don't care
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to talk about it, but it is interesting that she's one of the people who will still go
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on his show.
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I don't think that a lot of...
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Who is she?
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She was a 9-11 whistleblower.
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It's not important.
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Her story is really complicated and one of the reasons that I shy away from it a little
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bit is that a lot of the things that she is alleging are in reports that have not been
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made public.
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So there are like a lot of things that she's asserting about confidential documents and
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stuff like that.
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The unreleased pages from the 9-11 commission.
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No, not that.
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Even other stuff.
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And so I just don't care to get into it because I can't really figure out the veracity of
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a lot of stuff.
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So I just sort of punt on it.
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But she's on to talk about Turkey and about like Erdogan, how he's going to flood Muslims
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into Europe and stuff like that.
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The problem that I have with that is that Erdogan was paying Michael Flynn, which is
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one of the things that he did wrong.
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And the other thing is that I don't believe in any scenario, any world that Trump didn't
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know about that or there wasn't some sort of like tacit approval of Flynn working with
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Erdogan to try and extradite Gulen.
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So the idea that Alex is now talking all this shit about Turkey, I get why, but you have
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to reconcile that with the fact that according to your worldview, Flynn was secretly fighting
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this war against the globalists and the Islamicists.
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And one of the things he was doing was working for this Erdogan, who you are now presenting
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as a horrible dictator who's trying to flood Europe with Muslims.
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Well he's doing that because it's in response to Trump being like, hey, you should probably
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let this dude go because he really didn't orchestrate that coup, which let's be honest,
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Erdogan, you know, I know, we all know that coup didn't happen and ain't no coup.
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You look, is Flynn working for Venezuela now too?
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Could be.
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I'm not, I'm not conspiracy.
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He's working for Brazil.
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I'm not conspiracy theory.
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Well, if you're white, you're working for Brazil's fucking ludicrous government.
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Anyway, let's not dive too far down that well because it's irrelevant to Alex's stuff and
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we'd end up here all night.
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Suffice it to say it's weird and I don't care to cover that interview because it would take
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too long to try and parse out like why, where's your, where's your line with Erdogan and Turkey?
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And I don't really care.
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He's mostly just talking about it because it's another way to demonize Mosul.
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So he gets to some of the roundup of stories and one of them is about how someone out there
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is standing up for info wars.
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That's important news.
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Tucker Carlson, Caitlin Bennett, you know, she's a college graduate this year that was
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graduating or her AR 15 on her back that went viral.
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And so, uh, come and take it girl challenges all Apple store devices to show him forwards.com
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to protest censorship.
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Here's that video.
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We just wanted to leave them with all the computers and put info wars.com on emergency
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alert false flag.
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Hundreds of thousands of views right now.
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That's not everybody does stuff like that.
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It will totally blow up in their face big time.
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No.
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Well, um, but also it's fun that this is what she's doing now because like just in the last
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couple of days she posted on Twitter her outside of that school, the promise school that LeBron
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James has come out and said that he's going to, uh, if everyone who graduates from this
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school is going to pay for their college education, among other things, going to pay for uniforms
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for the kids and stuff for the parents and stuff like that.
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And so she went to the school and she posted a picture of herself outside with the microphone
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about how she's going to get to the bottom of who's paying for this school hint.
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It's not LeBron James, which everyone started dunking on her because it's a public school.
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He's splitting the funding.
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No, no, no.
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He's not paying for the school now.
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He's paying for a lot of the things for the kids at the school and if they graduate paying
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for them to go to college, well, that's not paying for the school from what I've read
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is for the school.
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Right?
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Exactly.
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From what I've read, he's, he's allowed them to create and he's, he hasn't done the, the
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charter school route, which is even more admirable because it is going to be funded and run by
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the public.
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It's going to be like a, almost like a, a, a test.
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It's a, it's a public private partnership that is very fascinating and it'll be really
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exciting to see how it works out.
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And because the thing that she's trying to critique is so stupid, like it's like you
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could just look at the definition of like, look at what the school is.
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Look at what LeBron James is claiming he's doing, what his plan is.
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You couldn't find fault with that unless all you want to do is try and tear down a black
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man who's criticized daddy president.
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And so that's what she's all about.
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Clearly that's been what she's been about except for walking around and trying to get
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Instagram famous with guns for her entire short and unimpressive career.
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And now she's doing the info wars route, which is not surprising at all.
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Congratulations, Caitlin Bennett, you are a disaster.
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And this is another thing I feel so bad cause she's so young.
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Like this is something that I hope that she'll feel bad about later.
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And that's why it really is hard for me to make fun of her because in youth you make
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a lot of mistakes and these are big mistakes.
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These are big, very public mistakes.
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And I pray that she learns her lesson and not learns her lesson like someone beats her
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up, but I hope that she learns her lesson and is able to live a healthy, full life after
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this because this path doesn't go good places.
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She doesn't have a career after this other than being like, maybe she gets to be another
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Tommy Lauren and then just gets dunked on constantly and is a shill and just a pretty
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face for propagandists to use.
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It's not, it, it's, it's a sad path.
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A lady tweeted a dumb racist joke and got on a plane and then when she landed, she was
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not allowed to be part of society anymore.
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And these people are allowed?
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That's bananas.
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It's weird, but that's because I don't know why actually I was going to give you an explanation.
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No, there's no clue.
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It's bananas.
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So what even, what even, what, where, where did we, what, where do we live it?
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I don't know.
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What are we living in?
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I don't know.
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Let's move along.
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Uh, cause we were almost done here and I know you're tired and I want to, I want to wrap
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this up so I don't have to be up all night.
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Um, but, uh, before we get out of here, Alex thinks that everyone's taken him out of context.
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Yeah.
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And I actually kind of agree to a certain extent.
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I believe that, uh, I watched the entire clip of him talking about have your battle rifles
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ready and stuff like that.
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And I know it's violent language and it's trying to prepare people for the idea that
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violence is probably necessary, but he's not advocating going out and shooting anybody
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and people who are construing it that way.
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I think it's a little bit unfair to him.
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He brought it on himself and this is exactly the reaction he would hope for, but the news
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is covering it and saying that he's, this is a violent threat and stuff like that, which
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I do think you could construe it that way.
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I think that is one interpretation that is fair, but Alex saying that I didn't construe
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it that way and that's not what I was saying is also fair for him to, to say.
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So in response to that, he's saying that, uh, the media, all they do is take one or
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two words and cut them up and make me say mad libs, which is his standard sort of complaint
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whenever people are actually talking about him, which is cowardly.
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Um, but I think this is worse.
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This is a sink edit of Lester Holt reveals descriptive and deceptive edit techniques
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used against Alex Jones.
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Now let's be clear.
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Lester Holt is not a pedophile, at least that I know these are edits of him talking about
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children and child molestation cases.
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But according to Lester Holt's standard where he didn't show a clip, he just read quotes
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that were each word out of context put together where I said, attack the media with assault
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rifles.
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The New York Times did it thousands of publications, but he put it out with Jack Dorsey and said,
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Jack, I get chills up my spine.
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He says he wants people to criminally kill us with guns.
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Never said any of that.
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In fact, at least with this clip, we take real things he said and then put them together
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in their stories.
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It'll be one word, two words, one word, then they fill in the blanks.
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They don't even have the words to put it together so they even make those up.
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So this isn't even as nasty as we did to us.
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But here's an example of deceptive editing.
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Here it is.
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On August 15, 2018, Lester Holt claimed Alex Jones called for people to use battle rifles
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against a tech journalist.
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He did this by playing word game salad with different words that Alex Jones had said at
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different times.
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Lester Holt dishonestly recombined those words to a whole new fake sentence they claimed
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that Alex actually said.
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Let's use the same technique and see what Lester Holt might be claimed to have said.
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Indulge me for just a moment.
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I think my reputation was sullied by the little boy and the little boy and he's only four,
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but he's ready.
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In the end, you know, we got a good amount of time since 2005.
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Now I'm going to get to spend more time and I'm expected to face criminal charges related
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to sexual abuse.
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Dude, you made a mistake, but I really liked the little boy and the little boy and I don't
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know whether he thinks it went badly or you know, it's not for me to talk to the family
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and I just love a little boy in a good way, which I'm going to continue doing, but not
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in other places.
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That's what I wanted to say.
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Okay.
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So if you have any great ideas about sneaking in a little boy, I'm all ears.
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I'm very good.
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That's fucked up.
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I mean, there's no other way to slice that.
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That's really fucked up.
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I get what he's trying to do and I get the point he's trying to make.
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There's other ways to do that than that.
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I don't think that his audience understands necessarily the point of what he's doing and
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might listen to that and be like, ha ha, maybe Lester Holt is a pedophile.
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That's probably not fair, but I have very little faith in his audience.
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So I don't know.
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I just heard that and I was like, I know he probably thinks this is funny.
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It's not.
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He probably thinks it's clever.
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It's not.
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Definitely not.
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And like we could do a much better version of that with Alex if we wanted to.
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I mean, we kind of do already.
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This is again him just stealing our bit.
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It's him stealing our bit, but doing it so terribly.
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Anyway, I don't really care.
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I think that a lot of this does boil down to, I don't really care, except for the stuff
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I'm really fascinated by, the reversions to past self, that we're seeing a little bit
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of these trends.
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I think they're very interesting.
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I think I would like that to continue.
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I would too.
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It's a trend I would like because I think he'd be much more interesting and palatable.
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And that might just be our bias of liking him more in the past.
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And not liking him, liking the show better.
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The show is more listenable when there's more human to it and less repetition of anger and
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bigotry.
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So we have one last clip and I kept this in specifically because it's just, it's genius.
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Absolutely genius.
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Okay.
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I don't trust you.
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Brian Stelter, how dare Trump criticize us.
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That silences the media.
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No criticizing known liars is telling the truth.
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You're the ones calling for us to be silenced and you do it the same programs.
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You are anti free speech police.
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You are the enemy of the country.
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Does that mean I want violence against you?
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No.
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You're the ones politically trying to shut me down.
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I'm politically exposing you and we know when those terror attacks come against you that
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you're going to stage.
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We didn't do it.
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You have hyped it up and got it prepared.
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It's so obvious what you're about to do before the midterms.
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I have to expose it so they can't pull it off.
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But to do that, I need the audience to spread those videos.
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Then fullwars.com.
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So what he's done is create a preemptive justification for something that he probably thinks is a
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very good high likelihood sort of thing, which is someone attacking journalists, someone
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committing a terrorist attack on the left or something like that.
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He's now created the narrative ahead of time that, oh, you guys are going to false flag
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yourselves so you look like the victims ahead of the midterm, thereby clearing the conscience
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of any of his wonderful, great Americana listeners and militia members.
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Who they watch murder somebody and they go, well, don't worry.
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That's not us.
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That was a false flag.
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Right?
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Right.
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It has nothing to do with our rhetoric or what we do or turning people out of use guns
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and then letting them lose.
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It's not that.
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Right.
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It's that we can continue doing everything we want to do the same way.
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And it definitely won't inspire further attacks.
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No.
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We're like, it's the reason I say it's brilliant is because on some level, I think Alex has
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to know that, you know, if I were a betting man, I would say someone's going to attack
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a fucking journalist before too long.
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Yeah.
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It's shocking that it hasn't happened yet.
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Yeah.
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And in order to have any kind of cover for yourself, you better have that narrative in
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place that like, this is fake.
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They're doing it to themselves because they're all cuck babies and they need safe spaces
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for their wah-wahs.
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And you know, they just need pity from people or else they're not, it's not going to work.
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And so they're doing it to themselves.
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We're cool.
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And I think that sucks.
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I think that's very lame.
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But it's very smart if you're someone like Alex, because that might help you not get
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sued again in the very near future.
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Right.
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So we've come to the end of this now, and I don't know, I still hate him in the present,
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but it's much more interesting when we have Diamond Gusset commercials.
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It's always better when we have Diamond Gusset.
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Alex singing along to Poncho and Lefty like he has so many years ago in the past, and
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then this weird wrinkle of him not being able to prepare for breaks.
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I think there's something going on.
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I'm not sure what it is.
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I don't care that much.
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In terms of mysteries I want to solve, it's not high on the list.
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I just, I don't know why we would talk to these people anymore.
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I don't understand it.
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I don't, because...
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Do you care?
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I don't talk to Alex now.
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No, no, I mean like any kind of Trump supporter.
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There's nothing to say, because what they are doing is implicitly recognizing that what
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they're doing is wrong.
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And the way they justify what they're doing is by claiming that the left is doing it.
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Or the other side is more wrong.
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Yeah, so it's like it doesn't matter.
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It does not matter what it is you say to them, because all of that is part of their paranoid
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fantasy that gives them justification to commit the evils that they are accusing you of committing,
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which allows them to continue functioning.
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Like we are constantly talking to people who are infected with this brain virus and cannot
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ever break free of it unless there's something so, there's some sort of impetus that's so
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large.
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Like you were saying, like a civil war, something that breaks them out of this inertia.
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Because it's not going to happen by just talking to them.
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You're right.
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You think that, and generally speaking that might be true, but there are people who have
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gotten out, you know?
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There are, and the fact that there are means that it's possible for people.
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So I don't think that you need that extreme of a situation, but maybe you need something
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extreme within one's own life.
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Like someone has to have a moment of crisis, a moment of doubt in order to see through
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the facade and see really what is being told to them.
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Like what is behind the rhetoric?
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And that might be extreme in an individual's life, but it doesn't require a civil war.
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Well we need to have a, I mean, it's not, and don't take this the way that they will
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take it, but there needs to be a national, some sort of crisis that jostles these people
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out of it.
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Sure.
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And I don't mean a civil war or something like that.
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There needs to be some sort of a driving factor.
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I think no matter what the outcome of the midterms are, I think as we go further in
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the next year, year and a half or so, we'll start to see a lot of the consequences more
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coming home to roost of the policies that Trump is putting into action.
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Because there's more time, you'll see more of the trade war stuff not really work out
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in our favor.
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You'll see people being just banned from the country, as we're already seeing.
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You'll see all these trends that are already germinating.
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You'll see the plants start to grow.
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But there's the test case of the, and this is something that's been reported on for years
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now, but the people on whatever island it is, the island is sinking specifically because
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of climate change.
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And they all voted for Trump and none of them believe in climate change.
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It doesn't matter what's going on.
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Even their lives are disappearing and they're just still like, Trump is great.
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I don't know if you can apply that to everybody.
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I'm not saying that that can be applied writ large.
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I'm just saying that that's a small proof of concept.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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We choose to be a little more optimistic, but who knows, man?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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We can't predict the future.
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I don't know.
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All we can do is inoculate people from this.
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As best we can.
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This virus.
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And you could do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com.
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You could follow us on Twitter, add knowledge on Twitter, right?
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We also have a Facebook.
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Facebook.
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And we have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
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Indeed.
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You can go to iTunes and ignore Alex's podcast and download ours.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And hey, good times.
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So it's your turn.
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Is it my turn?
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Yep.
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God.
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I don't know.
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There's so many people.
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Like what's that horrible woman's name?
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Caitlin Barnett?
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Bennett.
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Bennett?
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She can go fuck herself.
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I'll agree with that.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
