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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex. I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about the now thoroughly banned from the internet, Alex Jones.
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Except for Twitter.
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Except for Twitter.
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And Periscope.
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And Periscope. Well, yeah.
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I love Twitter. They had a really interesting angle on it that actually came out after our last episode where we talked about Alex's being banned from everything.
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Wherein they claimed that if he had done the same things that he did on those other platforms on Twitter when their rules are what they are now, they would kick him off.
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Which sounded actually like a pretty good argument. Like, I would believe that Alex is more careful with what he posts on Twitter.
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I would believe that as a supposition as someone who doesn't follow Alex on Twitter. I would assume maybe that's the case.
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But it turns out it's not. Some people dug into it and found that he had posted all of the same shit on Twitter.
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Of course he had.
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And so he should be gone from Twitter, but that's probably not going to happen because Twitter seems to be cool with this stuff.
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No, they're revealing themselves to be, first off, not because of this instant.
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No, not entirely.
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Like, Twitter has a hardcore history of being that tech alt-right guy.
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Hardcore history. That's a great podcast.
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That is a great podcast.
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Don't listen to that. It's too long.
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You won't have time to listen to our episodes that are also too long.
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Yeah, if we're going to throw any judgment around on other podcasts, too long is the only one that we can really dig our teeth into.
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It's not a judgment as much as it is, like, there's only so many hours in the day.
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Right.
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If you're going to listen to eight hours about Genghis Khan, I'm not sure if you have time for us.
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Yeah, but man, Genghis Khan is great.
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It's good stuff.
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It's good stuff.
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Nice.
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Thank you.
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First, we got to do the, what's our show about?
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I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Okay, that's fine.
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We got that out of the way.
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Absolutely.
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So today, I would like to give a shout out to a new donor.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to thank someone coming aboard, a new donor.
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Very exciting.
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Thank you so much, Christopher Kay.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Hey, Chris, welcome aboard.
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We appreciate it.
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I used the last initial because on our last episode, I believe, was another Chris.
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And lest we all get confused, too many Chrises.
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So that gives us, what do we got?
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We got a bunch of Georges now.
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We have a lot of Georges.
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We got a lot of Georges.
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We're the biggest George podcast in the world, I think, now.
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We got Chrises.
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We got a lot of overlap of names, especially the standard names.
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Oh, that is, okay.
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All right.
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You hate white people.
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Let's fire you from the New York Times or whatever it is people are doing now.
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You literally advocate for white genocide.
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Yeah, I know.
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And I can't allow that to go unchecked.
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I believe.
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You're carving into my space.
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No judgments.
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And as someone who's named Dan, you know, Daniel, very, very standard name.
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Right.
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I would say Chris, Mike, those are your McDonald's of names.
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Right.
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No judgment.
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You didn't choose it.
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When did you get so defensive for no reason?
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When you started coming at me.
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That's when.
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This show has started off very well.
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All right.
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What do we do?
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Do we talk about Alex?
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We do.
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But before we do, I'd like to give a plug to our phone line.
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You can call us and leave a message at 1-530-NEON-NIP, S as implied.
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And today, as we start this show, I'd like to check out the old answering machine.
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Oh, God.
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See if we've got many messages.
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You are so fucking hard for this segment now.
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Let's see.
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This is the greatest thing that's ever happened to you.
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Did we get any messages?
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Did we?
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Hi, Dan and Jordan.
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This is Zach, also from Chico, California.
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I can verify that policy block, Devin, is correct.
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At least three people would show up to your show in Chico, California, which I also demand.
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I also believe that you may have come by this number by some sort of criminal action, and
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I have informed the city of Chico, and I'm sure that someone will soon be coming for
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you.
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I can, however, make all of this go away if you fulfill my and policy block Devin's demand
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for a live show in Chico, California.
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This is the end of my audio ransom note.
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Thanks for talking about mental health stuff.
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It really helps.
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Do more Jen Baker episodes.
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Bye.
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Wow.
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What a call.
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Turns out we-
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We're only playing calls from Chico, California from now on.
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Turns out-
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You must call us from a verified Chico phone number, or we will not play your message.
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I will say 100%, those both came from 5-3-0, so it's not like people pretending to be from
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Chico.
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It's odd.
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It's not odd.
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Is Chico a big place?
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It's not huge, but it's not like a small town or anything.
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Right, but how many of our listeners are American?
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I don't know.
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I can't figure out those numbers.
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How many listeners do we have?
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I don't know.
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I couldn't give you a firm number on that, but I would say-
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What show are we doing?
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20% are in Chico.
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No, that's not accurate.
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Doesn't it seem statistically odd to have two people from the town of a random phone
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number you chose because of-
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It's weird.
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We probably have as many people who listen to us in Chicago as we do in Chico.
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No, no, no.
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I also got some calls from Chicago folks, but I'm going to have to wait a little while
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to play those.
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Got to get the Chico out of the way first.
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We'll never clear the Chico docket, my friend.
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The Chico narrative has to go through, but thank you so much, Zach.
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We appreciate the call.
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That's super cool.
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I think it might also be Zach Alex's information source.
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That would also be cool.
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Secondarily, I mean, we were being threatened.
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We got to do this show in Chico, baby.
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I don't think we can do that.
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No, if you were to rather than ransom us and say that you'll go to the authorities to take
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us down, instead go to the authorities, tell them to pay for our travel costs, and we'll
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do a show anywhere, man.
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Get the city of Chico to sponsor our travel.
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Yeah, we're already the most famous podcast that is currently operating out of Chico.
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Yeah.
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So the first call that we got from Chico on the last episode told us we need more Project
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Camelot episodes.
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Next one was Jim Bakery.
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This one from Zach said more Jim Bakery episodes.
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Has Jim Bakery ever been on Project Camelot?
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He hasn't.
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I've actually looked into that.
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I really wish he had.
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I know.
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Has Kerry ever been on a Jim Bakery show?
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Not that I can tell, but we can only honor one of these people's requests because we
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can't combine them like you were speculating might be possible.
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I was hoping.
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Let's see which one we're doing.
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We're so smart.
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Look at the mess America's in.
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Wait.
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That implies that you have made it a mess.
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We're so smart and we control all aspects of the government.
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And look what kind of mess we're in.
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Whoa, isn't that crazy?
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Isn't that crazy?
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So today we're talking about Jim Bakery.
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Yes.
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An episode from 2017 of his show.
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All right, Jimmy B.
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I found some real interesting parallels with the world of Alex Jones.
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Some really shockingly specific things that we'll get into as this goes along.
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And then also just a rank weirdo.
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Okay.
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A liar and a crazy dude.
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Oh.
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I'll walk into a bar.
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And then the bartender says.
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I am terminating your contract here with us and you will no longer be allowed on Facebook
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either because the bartender, surprise, is Mark Zuckerberg.
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Good bit.
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So here's where the episode starts with that familiar intro jingle.
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Hello and welcome to the Jim Baker show.
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I'm your co-host, Tammy Sue Baker.
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Today's special guest, Pastor Mark Bilt.
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What happened to the fucking kids?
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Now please give a warm welcome to my dad and the host of the Jim Baker show, Jim Baker.
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Thank you everybody.
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Welcome to Gray Street.
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So grateful that you're here with us today.
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Good to be here, Jim.
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I thought that was the co-host.
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Tammy Sue Baker.
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Like she said she was a co-host.
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No, Laurie Baker is the wife.
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She said she was a co-host though.
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She always calls herself a co-host.
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She's not a co-host.
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No, she's not.
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She's an announcer.
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At best.
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Yeah.
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And also a singer.
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I don't think they play.
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What?
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I don't think they put them in the episodes, but she like, if you go back to the really
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early stuff on Jim Baker's YouTube channel, there's a bunch of videos of Tammy Sue singing.
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Is she good?
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I didn't listen to any of them.
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Oh, come on.
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We got to give props where it's due.
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What if she's an amazing singer?
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I bet she's fine.
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There's only so much, there's only so much time in a day that I can do with this.
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And five minute videos of Tammy Sue Baker singing had to get a pass.
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They had to go to the background.
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All right.
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So, um, I, I, oh God, she actually is the co-host on this episode.
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Tammy Sue.
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Yeah.
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She doesn't talk a lot, but Laurie's not there because her mom just passed away.
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And that's sad.
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It's sad.
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But I left out the clips where Jim is talking about it because it's so gross to hear like
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a human moment from him on a show where he's also selling survival buckets.
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Oh, so does he have feelings though?
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It does.
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It's not, it doesn't seem sincere.
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It still sounds the same talking about like, uh, Hey, I had the best in-laws in the world
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or whatever.
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That's not all right.
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But knowing that five minutes later, he's going to try and get you to buy a, like an
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ionizing water bottle, a pound of food, a year of food, 13 years of food, 13 years of
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food.
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And then the other thing, what actually drove me to not include that stuff that's kind of
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humanizing in some way, even though I think it rings a little bit showy is that I watched
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another episode of his show to like, that didn't, wasn't good.
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It wasn't good.
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So we were not going over it.
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But one of the things that he was doing was it was after hurricane Harvey and he was running
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a promotion where no, no, you buy a bucket, no $175 you get a bucket and one goes to
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hurricane Harvey.
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Really?
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I was like, ah, gross, gross.
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No, just send some of those damn buckets.
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Anyway.
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Gross.
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Not even.
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Which makes you wonder what the markup is on those buckets now.
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Oh, it's probably exorbitantly.
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Yes.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So do you, have you ever heard the name of this guy, Mark, uh, billets?
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It looks like our glitz looks like blitz, but it's billets.
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No, I've never heard of Mark billets.
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No one has outside of some very fringe weirdo communities, but he's on the show cause he's
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got a book that he's pushing.
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Now, interestingly, Jim says this, which gives us a little glimpse into his business model.
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And it's something that's been suspected, uh, for quite a while.
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I stopped endorsing books six months or a year ago.
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Yes, we said absolutely no more books.
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Because we lost our shirt on books.
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That's pretty, pretty wild.
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But you know, we buy them ahead of time usually.
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And then if they don't sell, and ever since we've been selling more books than any ministry
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in America.
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That's right.
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Isn't that crazy?
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More books than we've ever sold.
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And you've been ordering them, people have been ordering them, but this is an unusual
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book.
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What?
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It opens up, are you ready to go on the most thrilling adventure of your life?
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Yes, that's good.
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To me there is nothing more exciting than a treasure hunt, and we're about to embark
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on one.
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And we're gonna do that on this program.
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That's exciting.
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Is this the episode where Jesus finds a Bigfoot?
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Uh, Sasquatch, but yes.
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So I don't know if you picked up all the pieces there, but what happens is that Jim buys a
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ton of these people's books on spec, probably on like consignment prices, and then sells
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them.
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And what's happened is, he's not been able to move these fucking books.
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And so he's been taking a bath on them, and so for a while in 2017 he's like, fuck it
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with the books, we're just going with the buckets of food.
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Can't do the books anymore, these weirdos that come on my show are not good enough writers,
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we can't do it.
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But this guy, Mark Billetts, lured him back into the world of books.
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See cause I, I thought I heard that differently I guess.
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I think what I heard him say is, we're no longer endorsing books, cause we lost our
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shirt on books.
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And ever since we've stopped losing, ever since we've stopped endorsing books, now we've
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sold more books than any other Christian ministry.
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That is what it sounded like, but you have to consider that he's an old crazy rambling
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man.
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And so that sentence doesn't make sense as said.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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We stopped selling books, and then we- So now we're selling more books?
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It would imply that they then moved all of the books that they had bought before or whatever.
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I guess?
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I guess.
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It's an interesting business model that he's running, but it's the same thing with the
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Americans for Prosperity buying up all of Sean Hannity's books and making it a best
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seller, stuff like that.
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It is sort of the right wing media model that he's doing.
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So in effect, what he's doing is paying these people to be on his show.
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There's a financial incentive for them to come on the show, because those books are
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bought.
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Jim Bakker's buying those books, they don't have to worry about the audience buying them.
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They're not buying books from the guest anymore once they come on the show.
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They're buying them from Jim's stash.
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So that's a really fucked up relationship to have.
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That is a really fucked up relationship to have.
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And that's why Jim is so enthusiastic about a lot of these people's books, is because
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he's selling his own supply.
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He doesn't give a shit about this other person making money.
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They're coming in to be an advertising tool of Jim's-
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Own book sales.
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Yeah.
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He's just in gratitude or in recognition of him buying 10,000 copies of his book.
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So that's a shady business model.
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And just like what you were saying with Americans for Prosperity, that counts towards how many
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books are sold through the publisher.
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Even if Jim hasn't sold them, they're counted bought from the publisher, which puts you
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up in...
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I mean, 10,000 books isn't going to get you on any lists, I don't know.
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But in addition to other places that are probably doing the same thing, you might be able to
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rack up something close to a bestseller with that sort of shit.
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It's all very shady, but-
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That's very shady.
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But we still don't know exactly what Mark is talking about, except that we're on a treasure
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hunt.
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Also, doesn't that kind of imply that nobody who watches Jim Bakker knows how to read?
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There's a worse percentage than the general public, probably.
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I'm going to say correlation does not equal causation.
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But there's a high correlation-
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Wait, wait.
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Are you implying that watching Jim Bakker makes you forget how to read?
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I might be implying that.
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I might be saying it.
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So let's find out what this guy's book is about before we pillory him too harshly.
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Mark Biltz is here with us.
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He's the man who discovered the blood moons, I guess.
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What?
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And so much is going on.
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So much.
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What's happening in our presidency, what's happening in our country, we are in serious
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trouble.
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I believe America has got to stop mocking God.
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You have a president who wants to stop killing babies, but we want to kill him.
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I do.
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That's what they do.
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That's what they're talking about in this country.
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Who ever heard of destroying a president in his first week, his first day?
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It's really fun because we're in 2009 and Alex started making the Obama deception before
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the inauguration.
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Day of.
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Literally negative days of chance he gave Obama in terms of that.
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And that's the same with a lot of people on the right.
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They were all ready that day one.
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All this talk of like give Trump a chance, all that stuff, I mean, I understand where
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that comes from, but it's historical revisionism to say that everyone gave Obama a chance.
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You could say that or you could say it's stupid to say that.
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But I think some people in the middle right at the time probably, the more not insane
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right of 2008, 2009, I think some of them probably did give Obama a chance, but it's
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probably such a small meaningless population compared to the screamy lynching effigies
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and burning them population.
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There were a lot of those.
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Yeah, that it's kind of moot to give that tip of the cap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm going to let that one go.
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So again, all benefit of the doubt to the conservative or Republican party is gone forever.
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What about your benefit of the doubt to blood moons?
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I was wondering how you could discover those if you were born after the year Z negative,
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like what?
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Well, 200.
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How old?
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What are they?
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They're saying that humanity is evolved from multiple different sources roughly two million
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years ago.
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And they've all kind of interbred over that time period and spread about.
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And so I would I would say a functional system of astronomy or such would would probably
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have existed like what, 10, 15 million years ago or no, no 150,000 years ago, something
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like that.
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Here's the problem.
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You're you you're probably you're using intuition to guide you towards what a blood
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moon is.
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Yeah.
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I think it's just when the moon is red.
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No.
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Well, I do.
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I thought it was.
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It's not.
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Isn't that what it is?
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No, it's not.
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What is it?
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The reason that the full moon, especially during like a lunar eclipse, will end up looking
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red is because it reflect refracted sunlight and stuff like that.
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It has nothing to do with that.
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Well, it sounds really scary, the term blood moon, obviously, but it's a very innocuous
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space phenomenon.
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The term was most likely coined by Mark Biltz and a guy named John Hagee, who wrote a book
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about it after Mark had already written a book about it.
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But what they're describing is called a lunar tetrad.
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According to Earth Sky, quote, The word is used to describe four successive total lunar
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eclipses with no partial lunar eclipses in between, each of which is separated from the
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other by six lunar months, six full moons.
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So you understand what that means?
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Like you have it in your head.
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Are they describing is this another like 666 situation here?
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No, no, no.
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The numbers do sound like it might be going that direction.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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It's a thing where there are.
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So between two years.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no.
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I understand the concept.
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I just got whenever you said six months and then the number I was like, there have to
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be six months between that, because in that time there would have been like a partial
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eclipse, probably.
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Of course.
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And so when there isn't a partial eclipse that falls in between these four lunar full
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lunar eclipses, it's called a lunar tetrad.
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Right.
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And this happens a bit.
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It happens quite a bit.
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Yeah, I was going to say.
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Since the year 1 CE, this has happened 62 times and the next will happen over the years
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2032 to 2033.
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That's fun.
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And the last time it happened before this was 1967 and 68.
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Then before that, I don't remember exactly when the one before that was.
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But in 2008, Mark Biltz noticed that the lunar tetrad was coming up and it lined up with
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Jewish holidays and began predicting that the second coming of Jesus was imminent in
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the fall of 2015.
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That is a leap.
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It's a pretty big leap.
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That's a leap.
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Yep.
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He predicted that in the fall of 2008.
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That's a bold prediction.
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You would see the beginning of the tribulation period ending in 2015 with Jesus's return.
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Oh no.
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So that.
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No.
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No, no, no, no.
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I don't like the Jesus return simultaneous with a...
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Blood moon prophecy?
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Election slash blood moon prophecy.
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Well, 2015 isn't the election.
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That was still the next year.
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No, I know.
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But he's saying that...
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2008 was the beginning of tribulation.
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Yeah.
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So there is that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't think he ever fully, you know, makes that jump.
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At least I haven't heard him make that, although it is interesting.
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It's interesting.
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So we'll get into more of his ideas and why this is wacky as hell.
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But before that, Jim has a weird story and man, I want to find this episode so bad, but
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I couldn't find it.
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I really want to watch this.
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You predicted that the blood moons were coming.
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And I...
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It's not a prediction.
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It's math.
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I can't tell so much, but I'm Jim Bakker, so I have to.
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A few days ago, I had a man come in my audience and sit right there.
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And in the middle of the program, and we were taping, I think, several shows that day.
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Yeah, we were.
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Yeah, we were.
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And he started yelling at me, cursed me.
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Jordan, did you go to Gray Street?
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Is it possible?
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No, no, no.
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I wouldn't be allowed within 20 miles of that place.
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Told me I should be stoned to death.
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Are you sure?
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Mm, that does sound like me.
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A man who was quoting scripture.
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Did he threaten...
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Oh, man, that does sound like me.
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This is what's crazy.
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Did he threaten to pee in your throat?
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We have most of America hating God, hating our president, wanting to destroy things,
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and the church people fighting each other.
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And one of the things he was accusing me is, accused me of lying about blood moons.
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All right, that wasn't you.
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No, no, it wasn't.
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This man found them, I didn't.
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I love it.
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I want that episode so bad.
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I know that it's edited out if it's anywhere, but I want to watch some dude in the audience
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yell and curse at him and say he should be stoned and then be like, you're lying about
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the blood moons.
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That's a weird way to go.
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I was on your team the whole time, dude, and then it went to lying about blood moons.
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Now, in his defense, I am almost certain that he was lying about blood moons.
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I don't know what.
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So I assume at some point you're going to explain why a blood moon is so important to
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these people?
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It's because the blood moons in question in the years 2014 and 2015 happened on Jewish
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feast days.
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So according to the Jewish calendar, the Hebrew calendar, it would have fallen on like the
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festival of the tabernacle.
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It's whatever holiday is in September and the one that's in April.
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Those are the dates.
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And because the eclipses landed on those days, on the exact days.
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Yeah, but that is actually not that suspicious because the Jewish calendar is based on the
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moon.
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It's a lunar calendar.
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So the idea that the holidays are on days when the moon would be in a specific cycle
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is not weird at all.
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It would be surprising if it wasn't.
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That would suggest that the calendar was terrible.
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It happens with more regularity than you'd think.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah.
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That's a very simple explanation.
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Yeah, I might have given too much information about why this guy's wrong up top, but now
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we just get to enjoy him talking.
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So in this next clip, although we've already sort of dealt with a couple of preliminary
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objections to this guy's theory, they start with a very important thing that I think they
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intentionally did, which is an attempt to do a preemptive self-defense over the idea
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that this is silly.
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How were the blood moons of 2014 and 2015 significant?
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What was the significance of them?
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And I know, and I've talked to the rabbi about it too.
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But things happen, and yet you've got people who want to stand up and say, don't talk about
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the signs, don't talk about these things.
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What's going on?
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What's going on?
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I mean, I've got enough warfare without fighting church people.
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Why do people laugh?
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Well, a couple of things that I find very fascinating.
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First off, you remember it says, as it was in the days of Noah and as it was in the days
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of Lot, so it will also be with the coming of the Son of Man.
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And if you go back and you read about Lot, it says when Lot was speaking about the destruction
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coming, he was as one who mocked the exact words.
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And Lot represents the sleeping church.
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So that's almost like a preemptive warning of like, hey, you want to be like Lot and
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mock this shit, do it at your own peril.
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Amen.
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No, no, no.
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You can make jokes.
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No big deal.
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Free country.
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No big deal.
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God's going to kill you.
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Yeah, God's going to fuck you.
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God's going to fuck you up.
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But no, no big deal.
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It's going to be a disaster for all of you if you mock.
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Well, I'm going to go ahead and mock.
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Not necessarily God, but this.
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I will take care of the God mocking.
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Thank you.
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That's on you.
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Yeah.
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God's so fat.
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How fat is he?
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When he builds an unmovable mountain, he can't even, I don't know how that joke is going
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to end.
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You need to go back and consult Wilmer Valderrama, host of the great MTV show Yo Mama.
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Yo-gotta.
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I was trying to add God into it and it didn't go well.
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Yo-gotta is so.
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Yo-gotta is so fat.
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How fat is he?
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Now this is your turn.
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I blew one joke.
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The call in response is you start it and then I have to say how fat is.
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Fine.
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Well then you start it this time.
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I dare not.
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I know what comes after that.
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I know better than that.
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And on fucking Wild and Out, who am I?
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Jacob Williams?
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Get the fuck out of here.
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All right.
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Come on now.
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Come on now, Nick Cannon.
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All right.
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In this next clip, you know what?
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Mark is like, hey man, I was here to give you a warning.
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That's all.
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Okay.
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And as far as the blood moons, I mean, a lot of people, and first off, NASA was the first
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to discover the blood moons.
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I assume this is the whitest guy in history, right?
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They said these are when the eclipses are going to occur.
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And all I had was facts saying, guess what?
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The connection is they're falling on the biblical holy days at a particular time.
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That's the connection that I had made.
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And I like to stick with the facts.
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Now a lot of people wrote books about my discovery and they said a lot of things that I never
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said.
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That's John Hagee.
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And so I do want to clarify this.
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One of the things, if a bridge is out on the highway, do they put the sign bridges out
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where the bridge is out?
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Or do they put it a couple miles ahead of time?
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So if you're driving 60, 70 miles an hour, it gives you time.
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Well, it's the same thing.
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The signs in the heavens of these blood moons, the greatest thing was it was to get the church
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back on the biblical calendar.
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Would you be surprised to learn that he's on this show selling a biblical calendar?
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So a lunar calendar.
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So a calendar that would almost make, okay, all right, great.
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Great work guys.
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The other thing is that he says in that clip that he doesn't make specific predictions
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and that people have written other books that people say is him and he didn't make those
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things.
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Like I said, in 2008, he predicted that Jesus was coming back in the fall of 2015.
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Right.
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And we're in 2017 now, so he's obviously got Jesus on as a guest, right?
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It didn't happen.
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It didn't happen.
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When the prediction was shown to be inaccurate, he came out with a completely bullshit statement.
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Quote, since it does not appear that the tribulation started in 2015, praise God, we know we are
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now safe and have another seven years to get more work done for the kingdom.
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So that would imply that when he's on Jim Baker's show in 2017, they got five more years.
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He's going to address it.
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They got five more years.
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Yeah.
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He already knows.
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He's done the math.
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Right.
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This confused me so much.
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I'm like, this show is dated 2017.
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And I'm like, is this just a repeat from 2015?
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Because why is he talking about all of this stuff about the blood moons that happened
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two years ago and nothing happened.
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Especially when he's already admitted that nothing happened and praise God for it.
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Right.
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I didn't understand.
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So I'm like, is this a repeat?
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But then it couldn't have been because they're talking about Trump being president.
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So it has to have been in 2017.
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Predictive programming, Dan.
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None of this.
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It's very confusing.
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But like I said, he likes to pretend that he never made a specific prediction about
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the end times and blood moons around in the time of 2014, 2015.
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But unfortunately, there's an interview with the publication show Prophecy in the News.
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Quotes.
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Prophecy in the News or Prophecy and the News?
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In.
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In.
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Oh, I was going to say, because Prophecy and the News would be a great morning show.
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Right.
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Or a Sex on the City spinoff.
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We've got an hour and 45 minute drive time on the Dan Ryan and also Jesus is coming in
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about two weeks.
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Blood moons!
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So a quote, the interviewer.
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This we are going to see in 2015 on the first day of the first month and again on the first
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day of the seventh month.
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Mark Biltz.
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Exactly.
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The interviewer.
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Which is the Jewish New Year?
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And that concludes, it is Tishri one that concludes the sabbatical year.
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Biltz.
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Yes.
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Interviewer.
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Wow.
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Biltz.
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Yes.
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Interviewer.
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It's time for the Messiah to show up, right?
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Biltz.
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Yes.
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This is like a tennis match.
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It's so exciting.
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Such back and forth.
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It's a great rally.
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The transcript I found also has an exclamation point after his, the Messiah is going to return.
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Yes.
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Well, that's up for interpretation.
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Let's play out.
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All right.
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I will, I will not allow any exclamation points in transcripts.
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Fair enough.
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All caps.
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All caps.
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Suffice it to say he did very specifically make predictions about Jesus's return in 2015
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and what have you.
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So.
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Okay.
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So what I don't understand is why this utterly normal phenomena that happens regularly and
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has happened, I would assume since both the earth and the moon have been in existence
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on their current orbits and accesses.
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Since the year 1 CE, it's happened 62 times that have been lunar tetrads now, but he's
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talking about them falling on these specific Jewish feast days.
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And that's happened eight times since 162 CE, which is the first time it's happened.
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Holy shit.
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So we've had eight Jesus's?
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Apparently.
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Yes.
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And the exact same information he uses, you could argue that blood moons are just really
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about bad blizzards hitting Chicago.
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In 1967 and 2015, there were two incredibly bad snowstorm.
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I remember those.
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Those were blood moon snowstorms.
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Those were blood moon snowstorms.
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Oh, fuck!
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Yeah, probably.
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But then Chicago repented, so everything was okay.
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Oh, okay.
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Good.
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We're no lots over here.
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Although you can go to big lots over here.
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It's in Edgewater?
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I don't know.
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But also, one of the biggest issues that I don't think he ever deals with is the fact
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that the lunar tetrad from 2014 to 2015, he's using this based on the Hebrew calendar.
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It's all about Israel.
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That's what it's all about.
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The first three of those four eclipses were not visible in Israel, which kind of hurts
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the theory.
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You know, it's like God.
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Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there, Dan.
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So that's God sending a signal about, you know how when you build a road sign, you don't
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build it during the road construction.
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Oh, I've heard this kind of point before.
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Just like three out of every four times you build a road sign, or you put a road sign
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somewhere warning people about construction, you make it as invisible as possible.
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Ooh, fair.
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That makes perfect sense.
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Also, the fourth one was Trump.
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It's just Trump.
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Supermoon.
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It was a supermoon.
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Oh, shit.
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Well, there we go.
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He doesn't even bring that up.
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It's a supermoon aspect of it.
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It doesn't have the same ring as a blood moon.
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Why is it called a blood moon now?
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It's because often they do appear red because they're during eclipses.
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The refracted light from the sun ends up making the moon appear red.
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These lunar eclipses more often in specific or just...
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Generally speaking, when you have a full moon that is an eclipse, which is necessary for
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the lunar tetrad, like if it's a partial eclipse, generally you're not going to have the same...
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I don't fully understand space, but apparently when it's a full moon and a lunar eclipse,
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often the moon will end up red.
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Not always, but most of the time.
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It also depends on where you're viewing it from, what phase it's in, and stuff like that.
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It has a lot of variables.
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But this happens even when it's not during the tetraads.
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Yes.
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Right.
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It definitely does.
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So the red moon...
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Well, there's like the harvest moon, shit like that.
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There's all kinds of times that the moon is red that have nothing to do with this.
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Yeah.
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People got to let this whole moon thing go.
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Yeah.
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I don't need any more...
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I don't need any more like, oh, it's a full moon out.
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That's why people are acting crazy.
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No.
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People are fucked up.
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That's why they're acting crazy.
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They're weird.
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People are fucked up.
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But you know what it is?
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And it's so fascinating because what we're witnessing here on this show is just like
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they're behaving like our ancestors, like way back.
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That's true.
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They're describing coincidence and shit like that to the moon.
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And I mean, the moon does control like tides and stuff like that.
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The science is very...
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You can sort that out.
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We're like...
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah.
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But like...
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Sure.
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You can have some of that moon.
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But that has to do with like gravitation and stuff like that.
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You know?
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Right.
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I think.
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I don't know.
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But who gets this gravitation?
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You don't know much about space.
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Could go with God.
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Could be God.
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That's why CERN was looking for him.
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That's possible.
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That's what I'm saying.
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This is all ascribing cause to coincidence that you can't really explain and trying to
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make all of these disparate pieces of information match up with a dumb theory about a string
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of eclipses.
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That's all that's going on here.
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Which is an evolutionary behavior that has been programmed into us.
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Which we've also overcome.
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A lot of us.
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For the most part.
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Well...
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A lot of us.
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Some of us.
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A lot of people...
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A bunch.
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Not a ton.
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Enough to prove that it's possible.
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You know, we don't have to do this anymore.
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I think we're gradually finding out that the number is far lesser than we thought it was
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a while back.
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We'll be back to it soon.
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Yeah, let's hope.
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So anyway, here's another thing that I decided.
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My life's too short to research this.
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I just punted on this one, but this sounds very dumb.
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But to me, the main thing of the blood moons was God wants his church to repent.
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Just like you're talking about.
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And I thought it was fascinating, I saw this in the news the other day.
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You can Google this.
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They say the exact path of the solar lunar eclipse, or solar eclipse I mean, the exact
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path of the solar eclipse across the United States voted 95% for Trump.
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And the fascinating thing to me is God is not interested so much in the heathen to repent
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as much as he wants the church to repent.
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So that's pretty fucked up.
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That's pretty fucked up.
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What?
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What?
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First of all.
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What even?
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What?
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Lunar solar eclipse.
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Glad he caught himself there.
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But then also the, yeah, 95% of the people in the path of this eclipse.
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I don't know what that is supposed to mean.
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That's why I didn't research it, because I don't know what he's saying.
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Yeah, what does that mean?
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Does that mean that only people who love God, who are repenting, does that mean that they...
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So at the time I was working at that coffee distribution center, that I was working at
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my old job.
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And I remember when it happened, I looked up at the, you know, we all went out and looked
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out at the eclipse.
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And then repented.
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So the, you know, it was visible from Chicago and this did not vote 95% for Trump.
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But I mean, he might be talking aggregate, but I don't even believe that.
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That's impossible.
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What polling company did that?
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What polling company was like, okay, we've been doing this whole random sample.
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We've been doing this whole representative sample.
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We can't be doing that shit.
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What we considered the path of the moon sample.
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And then they did it and they were like, perfect.
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We nailed it.
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95% Trump.
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Nail in the coffin, not God believers or whatever.
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More likely it was a dumb blog and they had no information and this guy just read it.
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That's what I'm going to guess is more likely.
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What person hears something like that and is like, well, that's obviously true.
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Jim Baker.
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That's who does.
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That's such a stupid thing.
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He's trying to stupidly bought.
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But that's stupid.
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Jim, Jim bought too many books.
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Fair enough.
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He bought too many of these books.
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He's got to let him say all this crazy shit on his show or else he's never going to move
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them.
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Right.
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But that's, that's fine.
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I'm fine with that.
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That's not fine.
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I'm fine with that.
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You know what?
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I'm fine with that.
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Everybody's got to make a buck screwing over people who can't afford to do your dumb bullshit.
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But that, but that's like, that's like believing that a free and fair election winds up with
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97% of people voting for Putin.
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Like I, I, I, I don't understand how you can even buy that for a second at the moon into
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it.
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Oh, okay.
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That's is that is, do they only count votes in the path of the blood moon?
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Yes.
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Oh, okay.
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Nevermind.
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Nevermind.
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I retract my statement.
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I believe it 100% now.
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Also, this wasn't the blood moon.
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I don't think.
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No.
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Cause the time it was just a regular old eclipse.
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This one was like in a 2016.
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It would have had to have been.
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Yeah.
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It would have been during the polling data from like who's polling during the blood moon
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in 2014 and 15 and then later reconstituting that poll to find out who it was that voted
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for him across the path of the lunar eclipse a year before the election.
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That's a great question.
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No one, but also no one's doing the reverse, which is the normal poll.
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That's also not happening.
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What are these people saying?
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That's too dumb.
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Why are people in the audience just going like, well, that sounds right.
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I promise you I'm not cherry picking stuff to make them sound dumb.
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I legitimately have tried to do my best to reconstruct this as like, this is the things
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that they're saying.
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Like I did cut out a bunch of times he's just listing off days in the Hebrew calendar cause
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it's like this is incomprehensible.
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Tuesday.
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Rosh Hashanah.
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The fourth of Yav.
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Early, early before like 9 AM on a Friday.
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It's also a Jewish holiday.
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I don't know what we're talking about.
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So earlier Mark said that he does not make specific predictions.
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Whoops.
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I can't wait.
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I want to know what do you think this means?
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This is strange.
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Well, I think basically it means that we as a church, we have 40 days to really repent
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just like, uh, you know, Abraham, he was interceding for Sodom and Gomorrah trying to find at least
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10 righteous.
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I don't know how many righteous is needed for America, but I believe this is what they're
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taught in Judaism from even 2000 years ago.
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I have books from what they taught and they said because the, uh, the Gentiles go by the
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sun for their calendar, a solar eclipse represents judgment coming upon a nation, a lunar eclipse
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because Israel goes by the Boone refers to judgment coming upon Israel.
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Just rebuttal, Israel is a nation, solar eclipse, something great there.
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Solar eclipse.
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Gotta give it to him.
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Judgment on the Gentiles, on nations, on the Gentile nation, lunar eclipses Israel.
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Right.
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Cool.
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Right.
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You're making this up, Mark.
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Right.
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But cool.
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Partial eclipse.
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No, that means you have to repent a little.
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That means you have to repent a little bit.
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All right.
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It's like a, it's like a, it's like a mood.
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It's like God's mood ring.
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Like depending on how eclipsed the moon is, he's like, Oh, you guys are bad.
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Or Oh, you guys are partial eclipse means.
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Call your mom.
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Right?
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It's been too long.
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Call your mom.
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Full moon means get drunk.
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Sure.
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You guys did it.
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You guys had a good month.
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Get so drunk.
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You start apologizing to people.
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Yeah.
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Make a lot of amends.
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That's some good repentance right there.
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And then the next day when the Lord doesn't come back.
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So man, why are people doing this?
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What do you mean?
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All of this.
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I am baffled by this.
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This is baffling to me.
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What?
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I have time for a few questions.
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It's just the moon.
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It is.
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It's been around a while and it's hollow and we haven't exploded or something.
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I'm not even going to address that.
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I reject your premise.
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All right.
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All right.
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It's fake.
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I'm Eddie Bravo.
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But aren't you an adult?
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Isn't it 2017 when this is going on?
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It is.
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Can't you just think for one second like, oh, the moon is probably not God's mood ring.
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They need to sell books.
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I know.
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No, I'm not talking about these guys.
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Oh.
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These guys are, these guys are doing their dirt and both of them know that this is complete
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bullshit.
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Yes.
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Jim Baker probably, but he would be stupid enough to believe it.
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He just doesn't believe anything that anybody tells him anymore because he knows how full
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of shit he is.
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He's like, if I've gotten away with this for so long, all these other people are doing
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the same shit.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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He's old hat.
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Yeah.
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But, but the people in the, in the crowd, uh, so revved up by Tammy Sue Baker's incredible
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intro.
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Um, none of them, not one of them, just like they don't ever just show one person going
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like, dumb, you know, some people are just here for the ride, you know, I don't know.
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That does sound entertaining though.
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Um, so we should take a shit ton of mushrooms and go watch one of these shows cause they
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would be amazing.
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I wouldn't survive.
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I absolutely wouldn't survive.
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I know it'd be great radio.
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No, it would be a disaster.
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Why would you throw some stones?
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I'd probably yell at him about how he's lying about blood moments.
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I'd probably kill him.
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Dan, was it you?
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It was me.
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Oh, God damn it.
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I took mushrooms and went to Gray Street.
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You lie!
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You don't even know what blood moons are!
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I'll show you a blood moon.
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Uh, and then I dropped, dropped my pants and shit blood.
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Yep.
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That's, that's where that was going to end, but you could have stopped it before it did.
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Probably could have left it vague.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So could these guys.
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They could leave it vague as well.
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Great transition.
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Great transition.
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Um, and this is an unfortunate time when Mark does not, he gets a little too specific and
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then I'll explain the problems with this on the other end.
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World War I started in August of 1914 and there was a total solar eclipse over Eastern
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Europe and the Ottoman Empire.
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And what happens?
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Sounds right.
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You have this total solar eclipse beginning of World War I and the Ottoman Empire is destroyed.
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It even went over Nineveh.
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Whoa, it even went over Nineveh?
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So I left the Nineveh in there because he talks about Nineveh a lot and it's so specifically
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exactly what Alex says about Trump getting elected at, uh, when the election was happening.
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He says that Trump is a reprieve like Nineveh.
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He's given that he like, he won't save us necessarily, but he's given us a reprieve from
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destruction and always says like Nineveh.
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So I don't think that that specific is enough for me to argue like, Hey, they're getting
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this from the same place or I think it's a very easy, um, weirdo Christian metaphor
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to make.
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You know, Jonah and the whale coming out, all that good stuff saves Nineveh because
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they agree to go along with it.
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Cause there's a whale or something, whatever.
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Right.
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So now the other problem there is that he's saying that there was a big eclipse that happened
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right before World War I.
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The giant solar eclipse that happened in 1914 happened on August 21st.
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The assassination of Franz Ferdinand happened on June 28th, 1914.
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On July 29th, Russia began mobilizing against Austria-Hungary on the tales of Austria-Hungary
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declaring war on Serbia.
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Germany attacked Luxembourg on August 2nd and then declared war on France on August
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3rd.
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Britain declared war on Germany and August 4th.
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The US wouldn't enter the war until April 6th, 1917.
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Cause of the eclipse.
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None of these dates matter at all and none match up with the eclipse of August 21st.
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The reason that America waited so long is because we had our eclipse experts on it and
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they were like, dude, not a good time.
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Two and a half years wait.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Then with the next, then we get in when we get in.
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Don't worry about it.
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Right.
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So this wasn't even-
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This is dumb.
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This isn't even part of a blood moon thing in 1914.
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That's just a big solar eclipse he's saying as some sort of a message of whatever.
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But it doesn't work.
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That's when the war had already broken out throughout Europe.
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That doesn't mean anything.
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It's an arbitrary thing.
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It's not saying that World War One started in August, 1914.
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It didn't.
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It started in July.
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No, it was-
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June.
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Okay.
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So you know how when you build a road warning, cause you're going to be doing construction
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up there, you build it a ways away from there.
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Sometimes you also build it far after the road work is done.
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That way people are always on their toes.
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So when God sends a warning like that solar eclipse, he's got to wait like a week or two
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until after war has already started.
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I'm listening.
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I'm letting you speak.
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In order to then send the warning of being like, hey, hey, hey, knock it off.
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That's how road signs work.
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That analogy-
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I'm sorry.
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I was-
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That analogy makes me so angry.
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What do you mean?
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The road sign analogy?
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The road sign analogy.
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I'm going to shoehorn it in at least 25 more times tonight because I am so mad at how stupid
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it is.
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For every time he says blood moon, everybody drinks and you use the road sign analogy.
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So that's a problem.
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Just the idea that World War I had already broken out.
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You're using this to bolster your shit for whatever this dumb theory is that you're pitching
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about something that didn't happen two years prior.
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I don't understand all this stuff.
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I really sincerely don't.
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Yeah, no, I'm furious right now.
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I've listened to this whole thing.
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I don't get why he's saying that there's 40 days to repent now.
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Why?
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Is there a thing?
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Why would there have been 40 days to repent then?
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Is he referencing like a flood situation?
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Like the 40 days and 40 nights?
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Is that what he's referencing?
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I mean, the flood does come up, but no, I don't think so.
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But even by their own rules, which is what I call the imaginary bullshit that the Bible
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puts out, God wouldn't do that shit again.
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True.
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That is a part of it.
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The rainbow is the covenant.
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Yeah.
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He said, nah.
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No, I'm not going to do that again.
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I'm not going to do that again.
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Guys-
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God said, whoops.
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That's a dumb idea.
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Guys, I let myself play myself there a little bit.
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I got a little out of control.
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I was faded.
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Sorry, bros.
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Sorry, bros.
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In God's letter to Paul, the apostle, dude, I was drunk.
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My bad.
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My bad.
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In this next clip, like I said, what he's selling is essentially just the Hebrew calendar.
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Right.
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That is not a rare thing.
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Is it a good one?
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It's a fucking Hebrew calendar.
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Well, does it have like pinups?
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I'm sure it's glossy.
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It has a good gloss?
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I'm sure it has references.
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Like a matte gloss or like what are we talking about?
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It probably has some footnotes.
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Okay.
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That sounds good.
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But it's not a rare thing.
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It's a thing you can find anywhere.
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But this next clip, Jim implies that it's very rare.
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We're going to have your calendar, we have it right now for this coming year because
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I learn more from what I call the Jewish calendar.
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Sure.
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What's this?
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I use the biblical calendar.
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The biblical calendar.
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When I was in prison, I learned so much and this, you have put one out like I found in
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prison.
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There are not very many around and you're just filled with, in fact, in the back of
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the calendar, there's this major information about these holidays and holy days and it's
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so important.
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You can find Hebrew calendars when you're not in the joint.
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I mean, I don't get the, I know that Jim likes to say that like the time that he was in prison,
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he was doing a lot of studying and what have you.
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I know that he likes to weave that in whenever he's talking about learning.
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He's like, when I was in prison, I studied the shit out of this.
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But like, I don't know much, but I do know that generally speaking, I don't think people
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come out of prison.
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They're like, man, they got great Hebrew calendars in there.
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You know, that's crazy.
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And let me tell you why, Dan.
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Because after, I believe it was Vox, they had an embedded journalist inside of the American
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penal system, and he came out and the only thing he said was, one, lot of Nazis.
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Two, Nazis love Jewish calendars.
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They're super into Jewish mysticism and mysticology or whatever.
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Yeah.
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Bunch of lotus shit.
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You know what, also, why isn't, when I was in prison, I learned so much.
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More of a red flag for you people.
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Why isn't it more of a red flag for everybody watching this?
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Well, I mean, the best thing to do after you get out of prison if you're a con man is to
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go Christian, because so much of the Christian ethos is about a redemption.
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Redemption, yeah.
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The idea of like all of the sinner to saint, the Saul becomes Paul on the road to Tarsus,
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all of the, there's so much in there that like, yeah, I was a monster, I was a bad guy,
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I murdered people or whatever, but then I found God.
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Jim can't pull that one off because he was already a Christian preacher before, but he
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can pretend that the lessons he should have learned in prison were learned.
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My love of money got me in the position I'm in, now give me money.
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Yeah, insane.
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He can do that because of the Christian ethos of redemption.
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It's so much, it's so built in there, it's brilliant.
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And it's one of the reasons why- Christianity, you are so ripe for con men.
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It's so easy to con Christians.
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Definitely.
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The stakes are so implicitly high, like the idea of your very soul, Jesus coming back,
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the idea of like, you could die at any time, are you ready?
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All those sorts of things are like, are very, to people who believe in it, they're so high
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stakes that you can fuck with people really easily.
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Like with fucking blood moons.
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Absolutely.
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And this weird talk of solar eclipses that don't factor into his blood moon ideology,
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but he's just throwing around because it's the judgment on states or something.
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It's pretty, it's at least blood moon adjacent.
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Eclipses are eclipses.
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Probably means something.
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If one eclipse means something, then that follows logically that all eclipses then have
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to mean something.
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And it's not just eclipses.
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It's anything natural in the world that we lack an explanation for.
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Did you end that comment about eclipses with an ellipsis?
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No, with jazz hands, jazz fingers.
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Natural phenomenon are not natural phenomenon.
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What about ball lightning?
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We're not going to talk about ball lightning, but we are going to talk about something else.
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What's God telling you about the White House?
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Because a while, a few days ago, there was a rainbow, double rainbow over the White House.
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Well, I believe a rainbow speaks of God's covenant and over the White House, I think
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God is telling America he's in covenant with us, which is all the more reason why we need
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to pray.
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And I think God is telling he's in covenant with that's why it's over the White House.
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I think it's a nation that represents the nation and God is saying he's in covenant
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with us and it's so important for us then to heed the warning and to repent.
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Is every, is every rainbow, how many rainbows happen a fucking week, Dan?
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There's a double rainbow though.
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I hate you.
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Double rainbow.
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I hate your eyebrows waggling at me.
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You son of a bitch.
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You son of a bitch.
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Remember that meme, that video, that viral video about double rainbows, that was a confirmation
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of God's covenant.
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That was a covenant.
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Yeah.
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God damn it.
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I hate this place.
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You know what?
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I, I, I, I have not been as mad on an episode I think as I have right now in a long time.
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You know why though, because you, you're the intersection of rage and joy for you is really
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thin.
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Like there is a combination of them.
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And whenever Alex is saying stuff that you're actually mad at, there's an anger, but it's
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not as animated.
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Whereas when you're having fun, uh, you're screaming a lot more because no, and I'll
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tell you why I disagree with you.
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Screaming while smiling.
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All right.
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I don't disagree with that.
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No.
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All right.
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You may have, you may have far better analyze me than most of the therapists I've ever been
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to.
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I don't think it's a full story, but my point is this.
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I am furious at this because it is somehow way less coherent than all the other bullshit
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that we talk about.
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I believe Mark Richards is inconsistent bullshit story more than I will buy somebody being
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like as eclipses.
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I mean, I mean, I'm furious at this.
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I, I, it's just a fucking, it's, it's how shit works.
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If you were another place, it would work differently.
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You are here.
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So it works thusly.
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It is not, it's just a, it's just a fucking, it's just math.
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It's just math.
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Dad.
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Learn math.
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I can't respond to this.
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Learn math.
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I can't respond to this because of clips that'll come later that'll make this worse, but I
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could explain a little.
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Look, this guy's got a good hustle.
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Okay.
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That's true.
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That's all you really, that's true.
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That explains everything.
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Does he have a good hustle though?
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Is he like successful?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think he's selling at least 10,000 books to Jim Baker.
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I mean, if that's all you're doing, that's still a good hustle.
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That's not a bad hustle.
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That is like in and of itself that if that's your entire economy, he's making more money
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than us.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you could probably do one of those boutique like self publishing things and only
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sell 10,000 books to Jim Baker and you'd make a fucking killing.
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You'd make a load of money.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because if you consider how much he's probably paying below market value for the book, you're
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still turning a profit of at least like probably $4 a book, whatever he's paying you.
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Easily.
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Then he turns around and makes a little more off it except for that six months where he
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decided no more books.
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Yeah, which was a smart move on his part.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So that double rainbow somehow, somehow that's a dumber decision than listening to the rest
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of this.
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Well, anyway, the double rainbow is a sign of God's covenant, but that sounds right.
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That's not the only rainbow we're going to talk about.
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How are we talking about more rainbows?
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Well, because I'm going to play the entire Kesha album.
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I wish I was.
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God wants to be in covenant with our White House and we should be praying for our White
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House instead of cursing it.
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America is cursing.
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They're cursing each other.
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They're cursing our president.
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Here's the thing.
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Do you know what I went to curse you when I was in the courthouse?
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They were sentencing me to spend the rest of my life in prison.
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No, they weren't.
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Wow.
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But over that courthouse was a rainbow.
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No, no, no.
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The whole time, all the time the judge was sentencing me.
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I didn't know it.
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Put your head toes back on you asshole.
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The radio stations.
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And I read about it doing the research for my book.
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I was wrong about it.
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And the announcers, they made fun of me.
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They mocked me.
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And so when they saw that rainbow, here's what they did.
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They went, oh, oh, oh, oh, like, you know, I'm not doing it very good.
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But like, oh, it's a weird, it's out of space.
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It's something weird.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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Mocking it.
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I think there's only one appropriate response to that clip.
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And it is, ooh, also never seen Jordan throw his headphones to the ground in outrage over
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rainbow talk.
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There was a rainbow.
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I can't.
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I can't.
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No entire time he was on trial.
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I don't know.
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I have no idea why this triggers me so bad.
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I have no idea.
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Genuinely, I am listening to this and I, I don't understand why I am so angry.
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This is a pretty surprising response.
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This is insane.
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Yeah.
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What is it?
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You're just too dumb to live.
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You're just too dumb to live.
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If you're buying this.
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Think about it this way.
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Okay.
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There.
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But again, you have to delineate.
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It's not them.
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It's whoever believes this.
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If you believe it, then you are, you, you would go off a broken bridge if there was
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a warning sign.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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You have, uh, you have no sense of like, well, let's analyze this a little bit.
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Let's see.
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Let's see if any of this is true.
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Oh, it turns out it's not.
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Can't we, can't we guys just make it a little bit harder to be conned by this bullshit.
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Like this is too easy.
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This is Mark level of like, this is, this is people who think that carnival games are
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fair.
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Like, come on man.
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What are you doing here?
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Yeah.
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What are you doing?
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It's pretty wild.
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Oh no.
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Oh my God.
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Do we have a call?
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Should we answer it?
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Holy shit.
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Are we going to answer a call on air?
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We can try.
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I think we have to.
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Hello?
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You're on the air.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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This is knowledge fight.
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You're on the air.
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Hello?
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Hey.
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Yeah.
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Oh, we're totally recording right now to the real Dan and Jordan.
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Yeah.
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You better fucking believe it.
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Oh my God.
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Even the dogs are excited now.
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Hello.
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How are you?
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Are you guys recording an episode live right now?
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Not live.
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Are you just hanging out?
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We're not live.
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But, uh, the Skype, uh, we, I forgot to quit and, uh, who are we talking to now here?
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You're talking to Catherine.
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Hey, hello Catherine.
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Welcome.
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Hi Catherine.
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How you doing tonight?
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I'm doing well.
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How are you guys doing?
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Spectacular.
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We're, we're both overjoyed and, uh, completely taken aback to get a call during our recording.
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So, so you might get some very strange reactions from us.
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Overjoyed and underwhelmed.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm sorry.
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I can't believe I'm talking to the real Dan and Jordan.
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I've been listening to you guys nonstop like crazy.
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So bizarre.
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That is not helpful.
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No, it is.
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No.
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Trust me.
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It's, it's, there's some deprogramming happening.
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Don't worry.
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We're thrilled to help if that's what's going on, but, uh, what are you going to leave a
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message about here?
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Yeah, but, uh, but yeah, I'm in, um, I'm in Round Rock, which is just like north of Austin.
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And so I was, we're, we're actually, I'm going to have to cut you off there.
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We're only taking calls from Chico, California right now.
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God dammit.
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A buddy of mine actually lived in Round Rock for a while and was in a, like a weird cover
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band there for a bit.
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Interesting.
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I can use it, but I'm not in like a cover band.
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Like what did they cover?
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I don't, I think there was a lot of like maybe some Michael Jackson covers.
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I don't know.
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I, they weren't like a, I think I was thinking of a tribute band because tribute band just
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limit themselves to one artist, but a cover band, I guess they play any, anything they
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can play.
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Oh no, this was like a, like they might get a gig at like a wedding reception or something
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like that.
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I don't know.
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I had fallen out.
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Uh, we, we didn't talk all that much by the time he was in this cover band.
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I just saw it on Facebook and I knew he lived in Round Rock.
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I bet the contact was like limited to him inviting you to shows where you were nowhere
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near.
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Not even close.
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Yeah.
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Well, um, well I, okay, now that I have you on the line, so I am a musician and I would
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love, I would love to, if you guys have any segment things like that I could record like
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a little thing for an ascendant in case you ever wanted to use it.
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Holy shit.
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We've never even considered having segments on account of our lazy nonsense rambling goes
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too far in every direction.
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I know you have like the, I know you have the out of context drop deal and so you've
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got that.
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Um, I, yeah, so this thinking, I don't know if you guys have any, any sort of, I don't
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know, maybe if you'll have voicemail of the week or I don't know, I wouldn't be your consultant.
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All of our listeners are better at doing our show than we are, Dan.
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Not damn much like we have advice for Alex.
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Our listeners have advice for us in the same way about improvements.
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You need an outside angle.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I'm good at this.
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I have, and I have something for you.
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So my best friend not only looks like Lauren Southern, but sounds eerily like Lauren Southern
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and we were trying to figure out a good way to like take advantage of that and showing
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up.
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You guys ever, ever wanted to, um, have a fake Lauren Southern on the show?
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Here is my, here's my pitch for this and you can take this and leave it a single white
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female Lauren Southern.
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Like just have your friends stalk her and then kill her and take her place and we'll
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all be fine.
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Sort of like what they thought happened to Avril Lavigne where they just replaced her.
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Okay.
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There we go.
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I actually have gone back and checked through those albums and there is a, there's a mark
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difference in her style.
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God damn it Dan.
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When did you become that guy?
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Yes.
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Specifically birthmarks.
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I've long been that guy, Jordan.
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You know I love Avril Lavigne's early work.
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Catherine, I appreciate the offer and the call so much.
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Um, let's get in touch over like email or on Facebook if you send a message.
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You and I have already talked on Facebook message.
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Oh yeah.
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That Catherine.
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I'm that Catherine.
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You being in Round Rock.
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It's nice to speak with you.
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Let's send some messages back and forth and see if we can't figure out some sort of a
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musical sting.
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Yeah, that'd be great.
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Musical sting.
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Um, if you guys ever need hosting and you guys want to do a show in this area, I have
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a huge house with cool roommates and we have a big front room.
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I also have really good audio equipment, so lots of stuff is open for you guys.
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We were in Austin and did a live show two months ago.
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I know this was two months before the time machine, man.
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I didn't know you guys existed.
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Why are you berating her?
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I'm not.
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She's offering a very kind thing and you're being an asshole right now.
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You shouldn't.
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I wish I would have known about you guys two months ago.
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I wish.
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I'm just sad.
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But yeah, so that's open for you.
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Don't acquiesce to his bullshit.
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Say that you didn't go and you're proud of it, goddammit.
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I didn't go and I am, I am not ashamed pride though, but yeah, so that's, that's the option
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there.
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And then I also have some ideas for merch free guys.
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Okay.
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I'll let you guys record your episode.
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Oh my God.
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I'm so excited.
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This is where the magic happens.
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Do you guys have any like inside baseball to share?
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Not at the moment.
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What are you guys drinking?
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What are you guys drinking tonight?
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Uh, Dale's pale ale.
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Dale's pale ale.
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Is on the table.
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Ooh.
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That's some good stuff.
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Okay.
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So we'll imbibe what you need to, to slog through the latest, uh, is this, is this a
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current episode or is this a time machine episode?
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Are you guys in 2009?
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We're at, we're, we're listening to some Jim Baker, uh, the televangelist Jim Baker.
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So we're, uh, we're taking a break from Alex for this episode.
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Oh, that Jim Baker.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right guys.
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I'll let you go.
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And you'll be able to listen to it in the morning.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Thank you so much for the call.
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Okay.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much for picking up.
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I thought that was your recorded voicemail.
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I'm like, oh, that's funny.
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I guess.
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Okay.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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What fun.
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All right.
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I got to quit Skype.
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I didn't realize it would do that if I just left it open.
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But what fun.
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That was great fun.
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Hey, look, turns out if you call and try and leave a message, we might be recording.
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It's kind of a crap shoot.
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Oh boy.
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Oh man.
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Where were we?
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I have no idea.
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Have we lost our minds?
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Yep.
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Was that real?
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Why would anybody be excited to talk to us?
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It's very foreign to our conceptions of ourselves.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much for the call.
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Yeah.
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Delightful.
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Um, so in this next clip, back to Jim Baker, back on track, uh, blood moons.
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Back to blood moons.
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We have, um, Mark has a bombshell that he's going to drop on, uh, on Jim Baker here.
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And uh, in this clip, Jim teases it a little bit.
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Okay.
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Hold on.
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You want to hear this?
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Are you ready?
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Do I?
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It's crazy.
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This is insanity almost.
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It's so crazy, but this is calendar stuff.
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This is what he's trying to teach us.
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This is calendar stuff.
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This is calendar stuff.
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This is a bombshell.
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Listen, if we're talking about calendar stuff, I don't know if you've ever had a word of
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the day calendar or a, uh, an advent calendar chocolate or a, like a novelty calendar, uh,
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you know, a calendar with novelties on it.
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I have no idea what I just said.
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Garfield strips.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Something like that.
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Um, it's not that kind of calendar show.
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Okay.
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This is what I would describe as a gigantic bombshell that I think Jim thinks proves that
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all of this is very real.
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And I have a very specific complaint with what they're talking about that I'll explain
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on the other end of this clip.
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Every year the UN has international peace day.
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All right.
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It was always held like on the second Tuesday of September, but in 2001 that day was nine
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11.
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That's why it was canceled.
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This is all, this is all true until this point.
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And instead in 2001 it was held on September 21st.
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Oh, well I guess that, wait a minute, I didn't know that coincidence.
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That's nine 11.
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Well, nine 11 is when the international peace day was supposed to have happened in 2000.
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But because of the bombing, it was postponed to September 21st.
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Yeah.
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That's shocking though.
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Well, yeah.
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That means it's a God day.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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This isn't even what I was going to tell you.
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Now if you think that one's big, oh, wait till you hear what's coming.
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Okay.
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So what did they do?
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Obviously they didn't think the United States would ever want to have nine 11 fall again
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on that day.
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So in 2001 they changed it.
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Nine 11 fall on peace day.
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Yeah.
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I think the terrorists purposely did that on the international peace day.
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So what happens, they decided we're going to make it September 21st.
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That way we'll know it'll never fall on nine 11 again.
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And so in 2001 it was fixed for September 21st.
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All right.
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Since 2001 it's been 17 years or 16 years.
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This has never happened till this year.
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This year, September 21 is Rosh Hashanah, the feast of trumpets.
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The big one.
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Okay.
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Again, this is huge.
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But what is even more amazing is get a load of this.
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Every year they pick a theme for that year.
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For one year it was called in 2014 the theme was the right to peace.
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In 2015 it was partners for peace.
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In 2016 it was ice cream for peace.
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Guess what it is this year when it so happens to fall on Rosh Hashanah, the theme is peace
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and safety.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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What what?
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That's a bombshell.
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Why?
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Wait.
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What?
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Why is everybody doing that?
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Why did everybody just do that?
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Why did people gasp?
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Why did people gasp?
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Dan, explain to me why people gasped.
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They'll get into this later and Jim will start screaming about it even.
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There's a scripture that says that people will call for peace and safety and then suddenly
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there will be destruction.
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It's a verse out of, I can't remember what book in the Bible, he'll cite it here in a
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little bit.
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But I don't really give a shit because they're kind of lying.
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The 2017 theme for the UN International Day of Peace was quote, together for peace, respect,
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safety and dignity for all, which is a far cry from peace and safety, which is them choosing
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two words from the actual theme that apply to a scripture that they want to use because
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it ends with and then destruction comes suddenly.
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It's like you, it's like reducing fractions, Dan.
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No, it's not.
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It's exactly like reducing fractions.
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No.
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Yeah.
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You divide this actual thing by two.
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No, you got one half that says peace and you got the other half that says safety.
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Get rid of the rest.
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Right.
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That makes four.
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And then you have two.
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What about, like you could just say then that the thing is together for dignity.
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You could say that.
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You could do, I mean using that logic, using the convenient omissions that he's choosing
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to make.
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Is that what God wants, Dan?
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It's probably not.
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I don't think God has skin in the game on this one.
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I think this guy is just a lying piece of shit.
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I love when people are just taking random ass numbers and then putting the, is this
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a, what is this?
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Is this the Jim Carrey movie, the number 17 or whatever the fuck it's called, 23?
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Did you know that there are four days in the high holy calendar and four is the same number
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as uh, you know, eight fourths.
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And then if you have two, that's exactly as many as if there were four twos over eight
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four and that is why August 4th is the day of the dead from Mexico.
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The O'Dell Moore day.
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It makes as much sense.
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It makes no sense.
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All of this makes no sense.
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No sense.
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It's just the like the opportunistic ramblings of vague connections between things and pretending
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that they mean something.
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That's all that's going on here, but I've withheld one piece of information that kind
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of brings into focus.
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Oh my God, Jim Baker did 9-11, didn't he?
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He might've.
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He didn't.
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Oh, okay.
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Who might've been in prison?
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Who might've been in prison at the time?
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Was he?
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I don't know the timeline.
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But the piece of information that I'm withholding is who publishes Mark's book.
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And first come first serve, we sell out of books.
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This thing, I'm telling you, I hope WND has a lot of books because we sell out.
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WND?
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World Net Daily.
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I thought that's what that meant, but I didn't want to say that I thought it was World Net
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Daily because...
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World Net Daily, former workplace of Jerome Corsi, the people who put out Jerome Corsi's
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books about how Obama's birth certificate is fake.
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The farm system for a lot of Alex Jones's guests are World Net Daily people, folks like
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Joseph Farah, who runs World Net Daily, who actually co-wrote Mark's first book about
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the blood moons from 2008.
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Not doing well.
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The real firm connection between these worlds that we accidentally stumbled into in this
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blood moon episode.
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I'm not doing well.
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He is frequently published on World Net Daily as well.
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They've put out a bunch of articles sort of boosting his blood moon theories.
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Do they all go to parties together?
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They must.
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Do they all like...
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Like all of these con men that we deal with seem to be in completely separate worlds,
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and yet at the same time we find more and more simple one-to-one connections.
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You know what I think it is?
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I think it's cons, like conventions.
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Yeah.
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Oh.
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Con cons.
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Yeah, exactly.
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In the same way...
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And in Jim Bakker's situation, ex-con cons.
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Yes, ex-con, current con cons, shaker con con.
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We know that Alex Jones and Roger Stone met in 2013 at a JFK assassination convention.
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So we know that, and you extrapolate that a little bit.
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You know that Carrie Cassidy has met a bunch of these people that she talks to at conventions.
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If I recall correctly, she met Joanne Richards at some space conference, something like that.
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A bunch of her guests, they make their connections there.
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So obviously, yes, a lot of these people do run in similar circles.
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It's just they don't like to cosplay, they like to lie.
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That's what they do.
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Yeah.
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I just want orgies.
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I want to know that...
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That might be in the mix.
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I want to know that Jim Bakker probably fucked Kelly Jones at some point in time.
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That's what I want in my life.
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How dare you?
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Don't bring Kelly into this.
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Okay, fine.
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Whatever.
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Let's go with Jerome Corsi then.
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I'll buy it.
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Okay.
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For a dollar.
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I would say that from what I get from Jim Bakker, I bet he's impotent.
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You think so?
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He learned a lot in prison.
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It's the way he carries himself, I feel like he's doddering to a point of no erections.
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I know that that seems weird to put on someone, but I've watched enough of his show and the
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way he's mumbling through words and shit like that, I don't think this is a guy who knows
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how to turn it on.
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I don't think this is a guy who...
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That's why we got drugs, Dan.
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And then he's married to Laurie and I don't think she's interested in fucking him.
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Nobody is.
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Tammy Sue Bakker isn't Laurie's daughter, that's Tammy Faye's daughter.
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These kids are adults.
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Whatever.
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Whatever.
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Anyway.
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You marry a propagandist for his money, you get what you get.
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Right, right.
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You get a lot of food and a bunch of unsold books hanging out in Laurie's house.
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Oh yeah.
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So this next clip I think is one of the most ironic things I've ever heard.
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Put your mic down because this is weird.
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How many of you know there are false prophets in the world?
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Yes.
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Oh my God.
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Well, I tell you what, the sun, the moon, the stars can't be manipulated.
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Okay.
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I mean, it says in Psalms that the moon is his faithful witness.
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This is a lot of manipulating.
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Did you hear that?
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Did you hear that at the end?
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Let's hear that.
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This is a lot of manipulating.
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Let's hear that again.
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This is a lot of manipulating.
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This is a lot of manipulating.
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There's a lot of manipulation out there.
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There's a lot of manipulation going on.
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Jim Bakker's laughing about how there's so many manipulators.
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Some people are manipulating.
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It's almost like you got these guys over here, you got these guys over here, they're not
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even jumping into my manipulator.
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God, God damn it.
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Well, that's the equivalent of people in the Info Wars world accusing other people of doing
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what they're doing.
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Yeah.
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So many manipulators out there.
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So many manipulators.
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So you were asking earlier about this just like branding eclipses as meaning something,
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which is weird because he's using the eclipse of 1914 as being like, oh, that's indicative
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that World War I is going to start.
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Even though he's wrong.
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Right.
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But his big foundational thesis is just about these blood moons that fall on Jewish holidays.
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And so he gets into this in this next clip, Mark does, and it makes me even more confused.
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Like he's really explaining stuff, but I'm more confused.
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Well, I think one of the most important things to realize is eclipses occur a lot.
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Matter of fact, every month there's the possibility of an eclipse, but not every month do you
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have eclipse.
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And there's been thousands of eclipses, you know, over the last 6,000 years.
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But which is how long God said in Genesis 114, he created them for signs.
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Number one.
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And then it is according to his calendar, his feast days.
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So if an eclipse occurs over the Arctic Circle and it's on a random day, who cares?
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That is part of just the natural phenomena.
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Wait, isn't that his thesis?
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But when God has a solar or lunar eclipse that goes over a nation that can be seen and
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it falls on a feast day, now it carries so much more weight.
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Why?
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What?
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What?
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I mean, why?
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Never explain why.
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Why is this supposition supposed to carry weight?
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I don't get it.
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But didn't he even undercut his own argument by saying that God said, if it doesn't occur
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on an important day, then it's fine because it is a feast day.
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By making it occur, God is creating a feast day.
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So why would it matter if it occurred on a predetermined feast day?
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Disagree.
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Disagree.
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I don't think that's what he's saying.
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I think what he's saying is that when these random eclipses happen, it's not God talking.
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But when it happens on the calendar that he's conveniently selling, and you can find online
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very easily, then that means that that is God talking.
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To which I would respond, wait, what are the other ones?
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Why is God doing the exact same thing a bunch of times, but just not meaning it?
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Is that God giving his opinions about reality TV or something like that, where it's like,
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this isn't meaningful conversation, it's just God trying to vent some shit?
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That's what other eclipses are, metaphorically?
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Is that what it is?
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When an eclipse goes over the Arctic Circle or whatever, it's God saying that he really
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didn't like who Becca chose on The Bachelorette.
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That's just science.
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You got Bachelorette on the mind.
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My girlfriend made me watch it.
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It's mind-boggling.
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It's mind-boggling.
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It's mind-boggling TV.
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So I go to that blood place, they sell my plasma.
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And the moon.
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Yeah.
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And they put on-
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Ooh, that's a great name for a blood donation place.
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Blood Moon.
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Blood Moon.
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Blood Moon.
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I'm going to pitch that next time I'm there.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Send them a letter.
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Among my other complaints, change the name to Blood Moon.
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But they put on the TVs just whatever, and you can't change it.
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It's just the same channel.
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That's the Blood Moon TV.
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And if you were there at the wrong time, it's Maury every day.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's awful.
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But I was watching it, and I got to thinking, it's all fake.
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It's all very fake.
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But at the same time, who are these people, right?
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I think they're actors, the people who are guests, or at least they're faking it in order
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for sensational... There aren't enough people who have this very specific problem.
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I want you to do a lie detector test to prove that you're not fucking my cousin, or whatever.
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You're not going to be able to make that show once a month with a normal sampling of people.
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I don't know.
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So people are going on and hamming it up and stuff like that.
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Yep.
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At the same time, some of them are amazing actors then.
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You know?
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Yeah, that's true.
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Some of them are able to cry on command, because I don't believe it's real, and that means
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that these people are incredible actors, which I think should be a pool for casting movies.
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If they're able to pool-
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I disagree.
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I disagree, Dan.
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Well, because if you-
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Acting is not about overacting.
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No, but some of it's not overacting.
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Some of it, it definitely is.
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The times that they run away from set and the camera follows them, yeah, that's horrible.
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That's horrible.
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But there's some people who do subtle work, and I think that maybe they could be cast
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in a play or something like that.
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You think so?
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You think so?
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Well, the flip side is a much bleaker dystopian world that I want to accept, and that is that
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it's real.
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Then we have to accept that their problems are possibly real, and then worse, the audience
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is treating them that way.
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The audience yelling at them and being like, boo, you suck, and stuff like that.
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If they're not all fake, that's horrible.
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That is horrible.
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If it's true, everyone needs therapy.
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They don't need to be on this show, and therefore, I believe it's all fake, and thus, I think
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they're good actors.
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This has been my senior thesis.
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We're going to need a segment.
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We're going to need a music sting for that segment from now on.
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I have now defended my senior thesis on my thoughts about watching Maury on mute.
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I will take this recording to the board, and we will decide whether or not you have defended
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your thesis well enough to receive a PhD in why everybody who watches Maury should get
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therapy.
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I'll be honest.
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I'm proud of my dissertation.
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I think you should be.
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Oh, man, this is what happens when you end up in these episodes.
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I'm an advocate for you.
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We end up in these episodes that are like, what are we even talking about?
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What are we even talking about?
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This is insane.
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Eclipses occur a lot, and they don't always mean something, but sometimes they mean something,
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and you should be aware of when they mean something, and by virtue of them sometimes
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meaning something, you can obviously discount the fact that they happen all the time because,
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of course, they don't always mean something.
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Sometimes they mean something, not all the time.
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That makes sense.
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That's a perfectly logical statement that a lot of people would totally believe.
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I would say that's an unfair thing for someone providing information to say because, like
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I said before we started the clip, that makes it more confusing.
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It doesn't explain anything.
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I'm utterly baffled.
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Especially when he spent time already on the show talking about various eclipses that have
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happened over the time that aren't on the feast days that he's talking about that don't
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mean anything.
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You know what this might as well be saying?
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It legitimately might as well be him being like, well, every time a bird poops on you
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it's lucky.
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Yes.
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But, I mean, now not every time a bird poops on you good luck happens to you, but sometimes
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good luck does happen to you, which means that bird poop is lucky.
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Even if, I mean, it happens a lot, a lot of people get pooped on by birds, there's a lot
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of poop, there's a lot of people, but sometimes it's lucky.
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It's even more slightly nefarious because it also relies on a schedule that is very
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specifically lunar based.
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It would have to be him saying that if birds pooped on people in a specific schedule and
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then he said, if they poop on you on these days, then it's lucky.
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It's even more manipulative because he's failing to explain to people how lunar calendars work.
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Do you know what's crazy though?
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They did do a poll and 95% of people who have been pooped on by a bird have voted for Trump.
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Did you know that?
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I did know that.
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95% of people.
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It's crazy.
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Cindy Lauper is the one holdout.
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She's never had a chance.
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No.
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So.
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And that is why she was murdered by God.
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We have a couple more clips here left to go through and I don't think we found any answers
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necessarily.
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I don't even think, I don't even know if we found questions other than just.
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Well, because out of hand, it's so stupid.
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What do you even respond to this with other than just like, whoa, I didn't know you guys
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existed this bad.
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Well, basically how you respond is what I said in like the first 20 minutes of this
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episode, like the Hebrew calendar is based on a lunar calendar and thus there are far
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more lunar cycles phenomenon that go along with the calendar based on their high holy
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days and what a shock.
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So he rambles a bunch about dates here for a bit and don't worry about any of the stuff
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he's saying.
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It really is meaningless.
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Does he just give a long list of dates?
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August 4th, let's go with June 21st.
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How about May 12th?
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How do you feel about that date?
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Love it.
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Love it.
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Love it.
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It's a good date.
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Good day.
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Good day.
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He might as well be doing that, but I only leave this in to serve as prelude to what
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comes after it.
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That happened on November 2nd of 1917.
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Guess when that was on the biblical calendar?
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Tuesday.
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The 17th of Heshvan, the same day as Noah's flood.
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Well, that makes everything make sense.
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And Genesis 7-11, it says it was in the second month on the 17th day of the month.
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That's the 17th of Heshvan.
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And it's 100 years from Noah's flood, again, another tie in.
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Then of course you have the 70th anniversary of Israel becoming a nation.
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You have the 50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem.
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So you have all of these coming to a conclusion this year.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Stop it!
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I want everybody.
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I want to say this at the top of the show because the phones get so busy at the end
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of the show.
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If you want, in fact, I want everybody to order a calendar.
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See ad pivot.
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You almost did a spit take.
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I almost did a spit take.
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Softest ad pivot ever.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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And that's why I think he can't get a boner because he does ad pivots like that.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Mumbly as ad pivot.
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Wow.
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Look, the phones get real busy at the end of the shows.
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If you want a calendar, get to buy this book.
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Everybody should buy a calendar.
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I accidentally bought too many books from this guy.
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That's why he always does the things where it's like a book plus a food bucket is he's
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got to move those books.
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He's got to get them out.
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What is it with God loving round numbers, except at the same time, random events that
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occur sometimes are also God's bailiwick.
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And then also, but on anniversaries, like on a base 10 system, God, of course, doesn't
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work on binary.
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No.
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That would be insane.
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Crazy.
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So does God have a... Does he use a numerology kind of system as well?
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He's like, okay, first off, a blood moon happens 62 times over 2,000 years.
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No big deal.
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Right.
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Especially a lunar tetrad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Which is what God calls it.
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Right.
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Because he doesn't like-
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Isn't caught into this bullshit.
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Uh-uh.
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No, no, no.
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God's too smart for this.
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Right.
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But it doesn't happen every 60 years.
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It's not like a round number thing, right?
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No.
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But it is important when it happens.
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Hundreds of years go by sometimes where there aren't any, and then sometimes, like here,
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we have two that are 15 years apart or so.
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Yeah.
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So we got that.
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Right.
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Right.
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But also, God is huge into anniversaries?
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Loves them.
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So it's like 50 years since and 70 years since Israel became a state and all of this stuff.
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Can God just figure his shit out for a little bit?
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That's all I'm saying.
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Leave God out of this.
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This is just a dick.
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No, this is them and their belief in a God that is bananas crazy.
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God didn't bring the 50 and 70 year shit anniversaries into this.
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That's them.
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That's Mark.
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Furthermore, furthermore, furthermore, furthermore, furthermore.
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If you are going off of the Jewish calendar, then it's not exactly 50 years.
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It's not the anniversary.
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You're using, by my count, at least three different calendars while at the same time
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asserting that certain anniversaries on one calendar makes sense, while at the same time
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in other calendar has...
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This doesn't make a goddamn bit of sense.
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But if you buy his calendar, it will, because it combines all of them into one.
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Okay.
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I'm going to need to buy that calendar then.
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Too late.
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That's a great calendar.
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Too late.
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Sold out.
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Damn it.
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So this next clip, I think, is probably the most troubling piece that we will encounter
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here.
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You know, there's a lot of people talking about, there's so many Trumps in the Bible.
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They thought maybe President Trump might be one of them.
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The last one?
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The last one.
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I don't know.
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I really don't like the audience applauding the idea that Trump is the last trumpet in
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Revelation.
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Really, I don't like that at all because it implies a real self-destructiveness on the
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part of their audience.
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They love it.
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Now, granted, they're just clapping because an applause sign came up probably.
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But still, the message that's meant to be sent is, let's get towards this.
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It's not good for someone whose entire business model is about selling you things to prepare
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for the end times to really want them to come.
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Because you've got to assume that he's getting you from both ends then.
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Oh, of course.
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You know, you've got to assume that he's manipulating you with his rhetoric in order to get you
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to buy the thing to prepare you for what his rhetoric says is coming.
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Right.
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I don't know.
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It's the same thing.
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It would be like people who sold security systems being like, fuck, I hope there's a
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rash of robberies.
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Oh, of course.
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It's the same sort of thing.
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You should not say those things.
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You know, if you are in that business, maybe you are pulling for robberies to happen.
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But if you say it publicly, then we're like, I don't trust you as a business person.
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You are shady as hell.
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I'm not going to do business with you.
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Do you know what most comes to mind whenever I hear about that?
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What's that?
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The BTK killer.
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The...
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The divine torture kill killer?
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Yeah.
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The guy who...
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The most redundantly named killer of all time?
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Don't.
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Don't.
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The guy who worked for a security company and thus knew how to break into their people
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who...
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God, everybody's stupid.
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So in this next clip, we get back to that U.N. day of peace bullshit.
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Sure.
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I only keep this in because Mark ends up making a fucking prediction and then Jim yells a
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little bit.
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And the theme is peace and safety.
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Could sudden destruction be coming the end of this September?
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Sounds right.
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We don't know, but it's a sign.
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We ought to read it.
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But what does it say?
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It says, for when they...
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Who is they?
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That's a lot of people.
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The nations.
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They're saying peace and safety.
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My God, the United Nations, the gathering of the whole world.
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Their theme is when they say peace and safety, God says sudden destruction's coming.
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So that's the scripture they're talking about.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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You can get excited about that because he knows it's not...
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That's not indicative of a boner.
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That's indicative of like, this is how we're going to move the books.
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Okay.
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But money gives him a boner.
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Nah.
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He's old.
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He's so old.
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That's just his like, oh, I can get more food buckets.
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What a bullshit cop out too.
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Anytime somebody says peace and safety, destruction is coming.
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Oh, sure.
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That is such a...
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Well, when they say...
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When they say...
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The UN say, oh, they must be the UN that the Bible was predicting.
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Yeah.
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They said peace and safety when, again, it's only a couple of words of the actual theme.
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God, you're so stupid.
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But dude, even if they said peace and safety, right?
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They did.
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They did.
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They did.
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And so that means...
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They used a lot more words, but ultimately what they said was peace and safety.
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But once they say peace and safety, that means that destruction is imminent.
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And Mark is in here saying that that means probably by the end of September, this could
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all go down.
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So if I understand correctly, no one has ever said peace and safety before.
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Ever.
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Up until this point.
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Ever.
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This was preordained by God.
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Ever.
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In the intervening time period of when...
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What book was the peace and safety?
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I don't remember.
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Okay.
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So let's say at the latest it was like Revelation era.
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So let's call it like 400 AD or something like that.
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I'll go with it.
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Right.
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So for 1600 years.
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1600 years, no one said peace and safety.
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No one's ever said peace and safety before.
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Nope.
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But they did.
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The UN did.
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Oh, okay.
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Well then shit, we're fucked now.
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That means destruction is imminent.
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40 days.
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And you know what that means?
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End times.
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Right.
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But guess what?
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I thought it meant food.
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Guess what?
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It's totally cool.
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Oh shit.
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Is it cool?
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Here's why.
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Oh, that's sweet.
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You know, why am I prepared?
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Why do...
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If you came to my house and I took you down to my baby's, you would see another woman
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eating enough food for 13 years, 14 years probably.
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I don't know.
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That's a lot of food.
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And why would I do that?
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You're crazy.
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You're insane.
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You're crazy.
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You know why?
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Because I went to prison.
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And I spent...
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No, no, no.
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I wish you would have stopped there.
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I wish you would have stopped there.
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I wish I had 13 years of food in prison.
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Also, didn't he go to like a white collar prison?
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He did.
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The food in that prison was infinitely better than his 13 years worth of food that he has
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in his basement.
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Again, it bears mentioning, he was bunking with Lyndon LaRouche in prison.
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So much time in this book called the Holy Bible that I became a fanatic.
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I believe it.
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I believe the dates.
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I believe the times.
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I believe in the hours.
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Do you believe in life after love?
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And if you read it all, it's going to start harmonizing.
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Because I can feel something inside me.
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You're going to begin to believe it and understand it.
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Yes.
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I found the answer in the Bible to the revelation.
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It was four.
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And we're people in the last days.
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And here, the United Nations this year announced the date of September 21st is the day of peace
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and safety to the world.
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He was wanting that.
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He was wanting that to get to like a selling book.
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A crescendo?
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Yeah.
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He was really wanting that.
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Instead it died like a soft fart.
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And then he immediately gets interrupted by one of his other co-hosts who I have no idea
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who he is.
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And he's like, what do we do?
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Which actually is probably another attempt at a sales.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, you buy food, you buy this book.
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You pay.
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You pray.
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You prepare.
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You do some praying or whatever.
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And instead the guy is just like, Mark rambles a whole bunch about various dates.
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So fucking stupid.
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Yeah.
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Crazy stupid.
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So I mean, at the end of this, Jordan, I feel like there might still be a little bit of
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confusion.
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I'm looking at this and I'm like, I know exactly.
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What do you mean there might be a little bit of confusion?
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I don't know what anyone here has said or is trying to say.
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Well, I want to try and at least at the end of this answer any questions that you as the
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audience surrogate might have, like I imagine the audience might be confused.
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I can sit here as the person who did all the research on this.
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Maybe I can help.
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Okay.
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Well.
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This is a game we've never played and maybe need a musical sting for.
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Final questions.
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Anything you need cleared up?
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Okay.
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Well, none of us need to ask the question why, because we all know why.
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The why is sell food and I guess keep Trump president or whatever it is.
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They think that they're going to get a theocracy out of it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that'll and if they get a theocracy, that means that their cons are like tops tops
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of the game.
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They're going to work much better.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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My question is, first off materially, what is their evidence again?
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So there's these moons, right?
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There's the lunar tetrads that and they happen two years prior to this episode.
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Okay.
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Um, and that's, you know what?
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You've actually, you asked the most basic question and it's the one I can't answer.
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Because I, what I listened to like two and a half hours of this shit and I don't understand
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why he's applying these predictions to 2017 when all these blood moons happened in 2014,
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2015 and won't happen again until 2030.
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I think it has to do with the fact that the UN named their day of peace, peace and safety.
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Like, I think he's getting a lot more mileage out of that than he needs to because that's
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not in the stars or anything like that.
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He's taking that as some kind of a sign and you can hear it from Jim repeating it a bunch
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and it being like in the middle of the episode, he's like, this is the bombshell.
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This is the biggest fucking thing.
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Sure.
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It was blew my mind.
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I don't.
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Yeah.
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I mean, in terms of proof, there's just the random occurrence of, of, of eclipses.
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Yeah.
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And then trying to cheat and make them fit your pattern, right?
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So there's that.
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Okay.
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How about let's just go with, if we're going to go with God is super into, uh, astronomy
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also.
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Actually that's my, that's my next question.
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No, no, hold on.
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I think you might be doing the wrong kind of question.
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Cause I think you're asking questions that are like, hold on.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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But I still want to hear that question.
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No, no, no.
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I don't.
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I, I, I realized exactly what I was doing immediately after I did it and I apologize
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and I shouldn't have done it.
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No, no, no.
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I still want to hear the question.
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The question is, so ostensibly this guy discovered blood moons.
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No, he named them blood moons, but they were a thing that already existed in the astrology
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community.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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So he names them blood moons.
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Yes.
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Why is it that this guy who has to have at least some level of astronomy knowledge, right?
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In order just as far as a basic, like I'm not studying whether or not Google all the
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things he knows.
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I imagine.
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That's true.
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But you couldn't whenever he put it out.
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Right.
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2008.
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Yeah.
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I think it could.
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Oh, he put it out in 2008.
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That's when his first book came out.
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So this is all posts.
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2008.
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Yeah.
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I thought this guy had come up with this blood moon bullshit in like the seventies
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or something.
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No, no.
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So this guy, this guy, this con started as best I can tell, probably 2007.
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Okay.
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This is the book that would be released in 2008, right?
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When he predicted that Jesus Christ would come back in 2015.
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Okay.
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So, so this dude starts researching.
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Why did he, why does he start going after moons?
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I mean, why does, why does anyone do what they do?
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All right.
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You answered my question with a question.
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No, but I mean, I think that my question, uh, rhetorically is appropriate because why
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did we start a show about Alex Jones?
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Well you, but you have a very clear reason for it, but it was also random to some extent.
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Like I wasn't, I think, I think a watershed moment in history is not, and a reaction to
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it is not random.
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But I wasn't set on that course by anything that like I was doing before other than an
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inciting incident.
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That's like saying why there was an inciting incident with him, like sitting around stoned
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one night looking at moon pictures or something like that.
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That one's really rare.
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Right.
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Or whatever.
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You know, there's probably something like that in his backstory that we don't know about
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yet.
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I don't know.
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I just don't understand why.
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That's a stupid question.
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I hate to call a question stupid, but the idea of like, you're asking me why did a con
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man do this as their con?
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I fully accept that and I, you are correct.
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I accept your, your criticism of that question and I believe it is also correct.
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I think enough people go about their lives trying to like learn about weird stuff.
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Let's say.
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Okay.
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So he goes on a Wikipedia wormhole one night.
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Oh sure.
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Or blog wormhole.
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Sure.
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Something like that.
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Or YouTube videos.
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Something like that.
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Any of these things.
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And then you find some like weird thing and then you get deeper in that hole.
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You start to find coincidences that you decide to ascribe meaning to.
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Yeah.
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And then it blossoms into a book that you write with the founder of WorldNetDaily, Joseph
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Farah.
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God damn it.
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Everybody's stupid.
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Yeah.
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So that's probably more.
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I mean, like I think that while I can't answer that question in a definitive way, I can answer
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it definitively that he probably just stumbled onto something and was like, oh, this works.
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Yeah.
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And then it, then it seems to have clearly spiraled into something because he now has
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all of these bullshit dates.
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Well, it worked really well.
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Right.
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So, but now he has all of these bullshit dates where he's like, oh, well I have this blood
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moon theory.
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Right.
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Uh, and now I'm just going to learn about solar eclipses too, because World War One
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has coincidences.
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Like is this guy just interested?
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He's half the right age that like he is fucking banking on surviving until 2032 when the next
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Tetrad comes around.
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How old is he?
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I would put him at 50.
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I think he'll be around.
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I think it'd be fine.
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You think he'll be around?
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None of us are going to be around at 2030.
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What are you talking about?
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If all.
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What are you fucking talking about?
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Let's assume.
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I'm angry at you.
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Let's assume perfect circumstances.
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40% of California is on fire right now.
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It's not bad.
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It's a big state, a lot of unused land.
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No, I don't know.
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Look, I get all that.
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I get all that.
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But let's, let's stipulate that climate change isn't going to kill us all.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So let's create a fantasy world.
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Well, because he probably believes it's a hoax, you know?
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Yeah, that's true.
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So in his mind, he's praying that he makes it to 2032 because then he gets to do this
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game all over again.
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Right.
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It is retirement money.
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That's true.
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He gets to retire on that 2032 blood moon.
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I don't know.
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That's, but that's also sad.
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Like you should be able to retire before you're 80.
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I said he's like 50.
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I know.
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2032.
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Oh, okay.
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Fine.
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So 70.
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Right.
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Whatever.
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He's not doing exhaustive work.
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Good boy.
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He's not working in the, he's not working in the coal face.
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I got it.
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I think that if you're in the world of floating bullshit theories and you want to retire before
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70, you that's, that's your problem.
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That's on you.
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This is a weird demarcation of organized labor that I don't understand about you, Dan.
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I don't think that there's a union for liars.
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No, look, there's a, there's a, there's a thieves guild still in Skyrim.
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Uh, yeah.
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No, that's right.
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I, uh, I joined the thieves guild.
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I was pretty great at it.
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I wouldn't stop talking about it when I was playing, oh, you got to get in the thieves
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guild.
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The thieves guild was great.
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That was a great storyline.
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The thieves guild was a great story.
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Here's my problem.
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We're going to end after this.
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Okay.
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I loved Skyrim.
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I thought it was amazing.
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The world was very open.
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I thought we were going to get back to like the questions about the show, but now it's
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Skyrim time.
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I loved it.
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I didn't expect to.
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Okay.
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It's not my kind of game.
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I know you got very mad at me whenever you did find out you liked it.
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I enjoyed the hell out of it.
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Um, I liked exploring around.
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Yeah.
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But at a certain point, um, the falseness of the largess of the game, the giant-ness
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of it kind of became clear to me.
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And at that point I can, I can never play it again.
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I can't go back to it and enjoy it because I know that like all of these paths that you
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go down just lead you to essentially nothing.
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You know, like the thieves guild.
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Yeah.
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You do all the missions and shit and then there's nothing.
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There's a bunch of dickhole non-playable characters hanging out that you can go have a little
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chat with.
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Yeah.
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It's bullshit.
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I want the game to be infinite.
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I was hoping you would realize that your criticism is wildly ridiculous.
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That was the expectation that I had that I think the game built.
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It's not!
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What?
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Yes.
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What?
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The experience of playing that like that massive of a map with that many, uh, like objectives
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you can reach, it implies that, wow, this shit's just going to keep going.
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And it didn't.
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You know what's, you know what's crazy about that though?
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Uh, there are a lot of people like you who felt that way about Skyrim.
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Rational humans?
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Yeah.
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Do you know what they did?
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What's that?
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They made more of it.
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What?
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They like, uh, like made like, uh, they did some like programming and they modded the
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shit out of it.
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There is, and, and I will tell you this right now, Dan, now I will tell you this right now.
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Your dream of an infinite Skyrim, it's real because so many people felt the way you did.
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They felt that promise of an infinite world where they can just exist and they can live
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forever and not ever actually deal with the real world.
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And so there are an infinite number of mods.
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There are an infinite number of mods that you can add to Skyrim.
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People are still making Skyrim.
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They're putting fucking, uh, shit, I can't remember the name of that.
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They're putting Oblivion into the Skyrim engine.
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They're throwing more and more content at Skyrim all the time.
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There's a rich community and yes, you can keep playing it.
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I can't cause I have it on the switch.
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I have no idea how to plug anything into it.
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Fair enough.
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Anyway, Jordan, this brings us to the end of our Jim Baker, uh, exploration.
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And our Skyrim exploration really until our next episode when you figure out how to mod
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the game.
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I'm never going to mod a switch.
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So got to play it on PC, Dan.
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Nope.
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What, uh, what, how would you like to summate what you've learned?
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I know that I've already asked you to ask questions.
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What do you mean summate what I've learned?
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I don't know.
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I don't, I know Jordan, you know why I keep asking you these questions?
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Yeah.
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Cause I'm wildly unsatisfied with this episode.
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Not like our episode, but I, I like, I did not leave things out or anything that makes
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it makes it like I didn't know I didn't leave the like secret key of in some clip from his
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episode that I didn't play or anything like that.
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But I, I, as I play these clips and I try and explain it to you, I'm realizing this
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is a bit, this is just all crazy.
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It's insane.
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It's not like there's, there is no explanation.
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And so I'm, I'm projecting myself into the mind of the listener who probably is like,
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the fuck were these, like why?
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What were these people talking about that they're covering?
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And it makes me feel like, I don't know, it makes me feel like, no, let me, let me, let
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me get even further to the heart of the question.
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I don't know how there could be a key that you left out.
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This is incoherent nonsense.
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And this happens, this happens literally every time we play, we do a Jim Baker episode where
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I'm like, I don't believe in God.
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I don't believe in any of this shit.
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I think it's all bullshit.
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And at the same time, somehow my, my childhood self who did believe is offended on behalf
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of the Bible.
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I hope God exists to punish this.
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Yeah, because this doesn't make a, this is incoherent nonsense even by the rules set
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down by the incoherent nonsense that the, that the church is.
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And just to double down on that, it's incoherent whether you listen to the entire Jim Baker
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episode or just what we covered.
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I don't know.
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I'm projecting that.
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I feel a little insecure, but who cares?
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There's no, there's no key to a guy randomly making up dates and then describing eclipses
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to them.
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No.
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What are you talking about?
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I don't know.
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It's just my own insecurity.
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There's no way to, there's no way to make this make sense unless literally everything
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any scientist has ever learned is like, like this, this to me seems like science in the
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1700s.
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Well, that's like what I was saying is like what they're doing is our ancestors.
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Yeah, exactly.
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They're being like, uh, yeah, uh, like pre this is plenty.
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This is plenty.
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The elder stuff.
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Yeah.
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You know where it's like pillow down man stuff.
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Nice.
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Nice.
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Nicely done.
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Uh, it's not even plenty.
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It's like, it's like, Oh, you're mad at me for saying plenty, aren't you?
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No, no.
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I mean, I'm just saying that it's not even that evolved.
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Like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's Neanderthal shit.
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It's just random ass like, Oh, and by the way, also because women, their cycles are
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based around the moon and shit, women can't be allowed to have an office or something
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like, like whatever bullshit that this is, I did cut out a clip where this guy's talking
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about the, uh, old Testament rules about a woman having her period and being unclean.
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Did you?
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Yeah.
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But like, no, no, no.
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For real, that was in there.
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Yeah.
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But what?
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Yeah.
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I didn't, I don't, I don't think he was saying that it's accurate, but he was saying that
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like the amount of days match up with some sort of, it was nonsense, but it was again
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about like weird math.
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It wasn't about like put the woman in the sweat shack or whatever.
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Yeah.
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But isn't, all right, whatever, whatever.
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Exactly.
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No, that's, no, I am, I, no, no.
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Here's my summation of this episode, a hard pass on whatever Jim Baker is saying.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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But, uh, congratulations to me, uh, because my, uh, Thai chili plant just, uh,
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Oh yes.
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Congratulations to you, Dan.
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Thank you.
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You took a bite.
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Oh, I ate it.
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It's so good.
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It's so good.
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I got one for you out there.
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I'm not going to.
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Yeah, you are.
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No, I'm not.
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On our way out.
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I'm going to force it down your throat.
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No, I'm not.
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It's really good.
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It's not that hot.
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I believe it's good.
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It's not that hot.
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I'm not going to eat a pepper.
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It's not that hot.
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We'll get one together.
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No, we're not going to do that.
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I got two.
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All right.
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We might do that tomorrow night.
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No, we're going to do it right now.
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No, we're not going to do it right now.
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No, we're not.
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We're going to love it.
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This podcast ends with me killing you.
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Undoubtedly.
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But before that, you can check out our website, knowledgefight.com.
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You can follow us on Twitter.
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We can go to Facebook.
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This is how bad we are at advertising.
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We're even like slurring.
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Both of us are bored with our own plugs.
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Well, it's tough to sit around and talk about opportunistic marketing salespeople and then
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be like, here's where we are.
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There you can find us.
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I know it's standard to plug things at the end of a show, but at the same time, it does
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feel dirty.
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Are we supposed to?
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I think we're supposed to.
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Is it a good idea, though?
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I think most people who listen to the show know where everything is.
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Right.
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Anyway, we're on iTunes.
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You know what?
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Here's maybe a better way for us to close these episodes now, especially since our listeners
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are fucking ridiculously awesome.
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Each one, teach one.
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It's like, hey, you've heard our podcast before.
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You know where to find us.
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Tell other people where to find us.
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And if they do, great.
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And if you're randomly listening to this episode and you made it this far, holy shit, you're
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going to just Google Knowledge Fight and you'll find all of it anyway.
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Yeah, most likely.
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That might be a better way to do it.
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So you don't have to go underscore five.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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At the end of each episode, we're just going to say, look, if you are a new listener and
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you liked this podcast, Google us and you'll find all kinds of shit about us.
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Or you won't.
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Either way, you'll be fine.
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Also.
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You'll be fine.
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Go to bed.
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Go to bed is our dude.
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Everyone, just go to bed.
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And maybe that's what we do instead of telling someone to go fuck themselves because that's
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so harsh.
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Maybe we tell someone to go to bed from now on.
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No, I'm going to stick with go fuck yourself.
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All right, well, it's your turn.
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Well, I mean, Jesus Christ, I don't even remember his fucking name.
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Go fuck yourself, blitz guy or whatever the fuck you are.
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Mark Biltz.
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I'm not going to say it.
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Go fuck yourself, Mark Biltz.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
