Transcript/166: February 2-3, 2009

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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed

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We are Dan Dan. Mm-hmm

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Dan if you had never heard this podcast ever but had instead just read a

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Ten page long review about Kanye's new EP. Uh-huh that never speaks about the music at all

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At all just the review album is just about our podcast just about our podcast

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if you were an

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superfluous

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Over-wordy pitchfork reviewer who maybe has never actually heard music before Jordan Holmes doesn't care about black people exactly

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You know, that's a perfect music review right there 7.3 sounds good

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Pitchfork reviewed our

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7.3. Hey, it's not best music level, but it's still pretty good. Oh, it's very serviceable

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I bet we'll get best reissue about 30 years from now when everybody reevaluates everything speaking of reissues. There we go today

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We are back in the past. We're going over 2009. Perfect

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But I do want to say this really quick before we jump into business

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Are you gonna start talking about Redondo again? He was on again. Redondo. Redondo. Redondo is the beach in California

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That's right. Yeah, Mike Redondo. Uh-huh

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He was on again and you know people were posting in the Facebook group about him being on again

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And I think it's time for us to wave goodbye to this bullshit any further

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I was done halfway through our second episode. I watched it. I watched his third appearance

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And he is there with a guy who has mysteriously come out of the woodwork and found out that he is a distant cousin of

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Mike's who is sure this guy sure this guy is also a did for Wars listener

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Why not and he's decided to let Mike live with him

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And he really wants to be an info Wars reporter, okay, so the distant cousin yes, okay

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So they're gonna tag-team it. Well, there's a baby to do remote pieces

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There's a bit of a negotiation about that cuz Mike doesn't want to be an info Wars reporter

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Of course not and Alex does and the guy the cousin Tony keeps being like well

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I would like to do it and that Alex is really clearly like I want Mike because he's

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Sort of famous. Yeah, I want to do something with him. Yeah, you're not as good

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To me

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Yeah, it's so there's just fucking talking about I'm a distant

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I'm your distant cousin Tony is the thing that somebody says before they rob you Tony. Hey, I'm Tony

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You don't remember me of you your mother's grandmother's on my mother's side

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They were skyping in from Tony's sister's child's bedroom to

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That's great

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God that's good stuff is ridiculous. But if you were writing a parody of this you would just write this. All right that

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Yeah, you just write that deck. Well, that's the third day. Yeah, exactly. The the other thing too is that Alex

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Sets up the interview by saying like well Mike, you know

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I paid you three thousand dollars to come down here and still hilarious and you now see the

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Millions of dollars of free press that I've gotten out of this you understand how capitalism works now

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And I'm like Alex you are straight-up on air saying to this guy's face. I

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Exploited you, but I paid you a little bit

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Do you understand how publicity stunts you understand how I am

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Embodying the worst impulses of late capitalism and how I myself need to be taken down because I have taken advantage of you a

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Boy, yeah boy you understand how I don't give a fuck about whether or not you ever see your kid again

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I don't give a shit if you're homeless

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I

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Made so much free press out of this and think about how much more free press I can get if you turn your goddamn life

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We're gonna get a haircut

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My out like I'm a sociopath basically that might as well have been what he said

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So we're not gonna cover that and I don't think we'll cover anything else that happens visa v Mike Rotondo unless there's a major break

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In the story man if he becomes the new rainbow snatch. I'm in now cuz that's that's a character

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This is just a dude the other thing. I want to say is that I hear people's responses

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And I my immediate reaction whenever someone you say that I take criticism too personally

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Well, I say I just reflect upon things that people say and I process them

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I try to be right and I think there is a fair criticism

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It was made of our last episode, and I I don't think we did anything wrong, but I do think that we weren't clear enough about

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The different pieces of the story that we were talking about

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Okay

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Wherein we kind of were coming from a perspective of we believe that Mike is on the spectrum right on the autism spectrum

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Right, and we also think he's dangerous and mentally ill not

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Simultaneously now those things are unrelated to each other

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And I think we did a shitty job of being clear in our language about that and made it seem

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Like they were connected, and I apologize for that perception. Yeah, I don't mean that's fair

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Probably the best reason that you can take it that we don't mean that is we didn't consider it in the moment because it's so

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Obvious that those two things are unrelated to and I would hope the previous 700 episodes or however many we've done

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It should give you some sense of where we're at and also no it actually turns out. We're the only

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Pro like the most progressive most equal rights based podcast

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But you still gotta exclude somebody and it turns out all Asperger's people gotta go

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I guess it's just it turns out. It's a weird. It's a weird thing

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We do but yeah what you're gonna

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Do and the other one of the other reasons I think cuz I've been reflecting on this a little bit not taking it personally and

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Not like beating myself up about it, but I wanted to sort of I don't believe either of those two things

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I've been having a great week. Okay, taking a lot of walks

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Looking off into the middle distance in the rain. I've been walking. I've been getting up in the morning and taking walks

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There's a short super nice a short distance between reflect and dwell dad

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But taking taking these walks the other day the other day. I was taking a walk right walk down the street

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Yeah, walking right down to 30 in the morning like that just early morning wrong wrong hour early morning walk having a great time

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Well, thank you right walking down the street minding my own business. What do I see out of the side of my eye?

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I see a moped with a sidecar. How does that not set your day off in the right direction?

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is awesome a

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Moped with a sidecar not five blocks from my house all right miracles do happen

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But then I heard a squirrel hit the ground from a tree. It was terrifying

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It was like it sounded like a textbook be drop. Did it fall like painfully it walked away fine

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But it was a look that seemed to imply. It wasn't happy. It was embarrassed

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Yeah, a little bit. It was it was that moment where you trip going up the stairs

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You're like oh, and then you see and there's one guy

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And you're like you and you and me die with this secret you would mean fucking

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Cutting you just never talk about squirrel gave me that look yeah, okay?

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So I've been taking a lot of walks and sort of you know there's some reflection involved

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And I was thinking about it so anyway. That's all to say a sorry we weren't more precise in our language

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Yeah, we'll try to be better in the future

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You know it's just one of those things sometimes. You just don't realize that there are people listening

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You know I'm fair enough fair enough. Why would they I?

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It's our default position. That's the best point. It's kind of like

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That's shocking that anybody listen to anyone cares, but we do appreciate it as we appreciate

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There we go that was the transition. I was waiting for Dan

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I'd like to give a shout out to a new donor who's joined up. Thank you so much Dylan

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Thank you very much, Dylan

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I'm not doing it. There's no Highlander named Dylan. Nope all right

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I was a look the first name that came to mind was not the one that I want to say okay

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But here's a name. I want to say yeah

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I'd like to give a shout out to someone who has bumped bumped things up

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And become themselves a raptor princess what like to thank you so much Scott

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I'm a policy wonk

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Go home to your mother tell her you're brilliant someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark

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Jar-jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty, baby

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I don't want to hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ I

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Know how to read I am out of control

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I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life. I really haven't I bet you money

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There are few living black people that have been

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Abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people at all Hitler Joseph Stalin both those guys were complete

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badasses

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So, thank you so much Scott, man

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You know what's crazy about that drop it is actually gotten progressively darker as we go along

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It is it is it starts out real fun

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And

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Then racism real hard racism and an expressing of admiration for Hitler at least like a doff of a cap yeah

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Yeah, um, but like to really and we know that he at least is consistent because does not mention Mao

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He hates the chai comes up hates the chai comes um, but thank you so much Scott Scott's been around a long time

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But good old time old time listener. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you very much

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There have been a couple people who have jumped on board since we put out the word that I will be breaking down

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None dare call it conspiracy if we have 15 new donors by the end of June. Uh, I'm having a great time

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Yeah, I've taken those walks. I've written about

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25 pages about the first 10 pages of the book Jesus Christ dad. It's good. Oh god. How long is this book?

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I don't know, but I'm dunking on this guy

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It's like

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I've written so much and it started with a really clinical tone where this isn't true blah blah blah

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And now it's just like look at this asshole

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Just become like I have now pissed off

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So you're you've you've graduated to do in the thing where?

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Somebody actually dunks on a dude and then stands over him and flexes on top of them. That's what you're doing

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I'm here for real. Don't get on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's very fun

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If you are posterizing the none dare call it a conspiracy. Yeah posterize. Yeah

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Yeah, if you would like to support that or help that come to pass you could go to our website knowledge fight calm

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Click support the show and that will be

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coming out

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If anybody if we get 15 by June 1st, I'm sorry the end of June then it'll start July 1st

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Perfect, and if not, then I guess whenever we get to 15, yeah, I guess

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We'll see. Anyway, we very loose rules. Anyway, you know this bullshit. Let's get down to business

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Today Jordan we're going to defeat

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the Huns

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Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons?

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All right, I think I'm gonna let it go. Yeah, I could do the whole baby

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Stop I've ever met and you can bet before with through say somehow I'll

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Make a man out of you. Yeah, so we're going over February 2nd and 3rd today boy

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I wanted to try and get three days crammed in

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Yeah, it just wasn't gonna happen and there's a natural distinction, but well next week

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We start with the back at the regular schedule again. So we're fucking right on it. And we have we

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2009 stuff is we're about to hit some pay dirt and like some of the

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Unified field theory of Alex Jones is going to come into much sharper focus really soon because if we recall

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February 27 you just pointed to the board which I loved February 27th is the first tea party rallies

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Yes, the first major one. Yes. And so what we're seeing right now is the building towards that

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whether or not Alex has any awareness of

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The forces behind the scenes or not the amount of coke money. He's about to get we will find out

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But first before we get in today's episode a couple of out of context drops

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I'm just average intelligence. Yep. Yeah, maybe

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I would say blow but then he steps it up a little I'm brain damaged. Yeah

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Yeah, you know that house. Yeah

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I have chemical lobotomy. Okay, probably sure. Yeah

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That broke it I thought there was another

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No, just all right. Um, so why did you turn and look at me then? I don't know. I have a response

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I did it was so Jordan last we discussed. I believe we left off on January

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29th if that's if I recall correctly, let me confirm that

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Bob up up last time on knowledge fight. Yes. We passed

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2009 we had the 29th of January is where we left off last time and on the 29th we have

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I said 29th again on the 30th. Oh a guy named Bob daisy sits in

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He's another Austin weirdo

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Related to Brendan daisy. I don't think so. Okay unrelated. Although he does speak with the gentleman's twang

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All right country twang to his voice. He fills in so I didn't listen to it. Okay, right

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So then February 1st is a Sunday and I listen to it and Alex is just in repeats

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He has he just replays his interview with David Icke

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I'm like what's going on here? This is super weird. And then we get to February 2nd and Alex explains where he was

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My way was paid. So I went to the ultimate fighting championship

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Joe Rogan, I figured it would be good to network with folks and see how many of the Hollywood folks

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I didn't know or aware of the work we're doing and

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We ran into quite a few prominent people that are certainly aware of the New World Order. That was interesting

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Oh, I'm tired today. I'll get into some of what happened there and

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Just the soullessness of Las Vegas. I haven't been in that place in ten years

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He doesn't end up getting into the soullessness. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't but big news. What's that big news? I

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Flew in from Las Vegas last night boy. My arms tired. I hate you

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Later in the week of not today. I'll make it on just right

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I walked into the MGM Grand and

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it was like everybody had their souls sucked out of when people that were actually there for the casino and

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Then the next day all the UFC champions showed up. They were a different crowd. They were all in shape and

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crazed looks in their eyes, but

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Certainly was Babylon. It was it was interesting, but I don't think I'll be going back. I have too much important work to do here

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But I met Eddie Bravo who's a huge fan of the show. What a nice guy Guru of the 10th Planet jujitsu. Nope. That was interesting

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Even laughs that was a real left to uh-huh. Yeah, put it in the books

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But that was when we began our Eddie Bravo romance February 2nd 2009 the day

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Alex Jones admits he's met Eddie Bravo

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That weekend so at that UFC event, whatever that weekend was Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo's worlds intersected and

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Nothing would ever be the same again

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It's weird how Alex doesn't talk about how the UFC fighters all have to have day jobs because they don't get paid enough for these

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Fights and they also don't have insurance even though that fucking asshole who runs the UFC thing is like a billionaire or whatever

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Fucking shit like that. It's just all of that shit. Like it's all of that. It's all of that like there's that loss right now

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Is it yeah, there's a lawsuit about the classification of USC fighters as employees

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I can't remember the name of the lady the woman fighter who's bringing the suit

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I literally just read an article about yeah, and it was great

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There's an article about the implications that pro wrestling will have if the suit is successful

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Yeah, if they win that one pro wrestling is gonna get health insurance for the first a lot of dominoes. Oh, yeah

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the exploitation of these these these workers is

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Unbelievable, especially for their short careers and the damage that's done to them and you're not even gonna take care of them

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You make millions of dollars off those for one night and then they die two years later

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like fuck you most people seem to have little sympathy about it because of the high amount they make for

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the work that they do not considering that like the training is work to write and in terms of the WWE like

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Travel is you have to pay for your own travel you and you have to have a

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You have to have somebody who trains with you

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You have to have somebody who handles your stuff like you have to you're you're running a small business. You need a body, man

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Yeah, you need a Farnsworth Bentley. Absolutely

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So anyway, this is all to say that you guys better. I mean you got to be employees

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Yeah, you got a unionized. Come on, man. We all got a you one of these days National Union. So

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like I said the the the Tea Party is starting to kick into gear and

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You know as as this time goes on we will see

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The the effects of that but here's where Alex's head is at which I think might be related

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That's right. We're down here in Austin, Texas and

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The main mothership is up in Minneapolis, Minnesota

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But we are growing the info Wars command center and have some big announcements coming up in the next week week and a half

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I'm just gonna leave it at that big announcements

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coming up big

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Revolutionary developments with this radio show and more so stay tuned for that in the next week week and a half

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I I might even announce it the next few days, but I'm nailing down a few other things before we do that. Hmm, huh?

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Revolutionary changes are afoot at info wars and Alex Jones LLC right around the time that there is a giant

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coke cash influx into

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Organizations like Glenn Beck organizations like Sean Hannity, huh? Yeah, it's curious interesting timing

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I'll interesting timing. We just had a huge

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Opportunity roll along and there's something's gonna happen in the next couple of weeks or whatever

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I have to nail a few things down still gotta negotiate my contract for hating Obama

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Alex is talking a bunch about on this episode about how he's gonna hire more people and about how we're gonna push through and

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Expand even though the economy is getting worse and that kind of hubris is pretty amazing

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Right, it indicates to me some sort of an awareness now

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Will you match that with the fact that he's been saying that a money bomb is coming up?

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You start to get a sense and we've seen this a couple times throughout his history

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These money bombs happen at convenient and weird points in 2015

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It happened a couple months before he joined team Trump, right and it happened a couple like

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Maybe a couple weeks after Ted Anderson who is what he was talking about the headquarters in Minnesota

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Right, right Ted Anderson lost his license to sell gold bullion

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For so Midas resources was completely collapsed. Yeah a couple weeks later. Alex Jones does a money bomb right now in

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2009 he's pimping a money bomb right around the beginning of the tea party

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It's very interesting these timing these timing things are

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Super bizarre and it's crazy that he bought three car washes which are conspicuously cash-only businesses at the same time

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It's so weird. It's so weird. Yeah bookkeeping is hard to do Dan. I understand that we can't we can't make it like a

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a case in court off of this no, but I think as time goes on in some of these dates getting more nailed down the

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Circumstantial case is going to be dammit. Yeah, it already is in my head. Yeah. Yeah

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There's very I when we started this podcast. I had a lot of questions about Alex Jones

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They're all getting answered pretty harsh. I have answers for most questions that I used to have about him

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I'm pretty clear that he's full of shit. Yep, pretty clear that he's been sold out for years write that down

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Anyway, some someone I do have questions about though Eddie Bravo. No, I'm pretty clear on him too. He's a flat-earther sweet

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But sweet but dumb this guy used to be the president. All right, which guy this guy he had a peanut farm

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You know that guy he'd have peanut Jimmy Carter. That's the one

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Yeah

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The guy who had to give up his peanut farm because he was worried about impropriety

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And perhaps people would view it as a way for him to be corrupt, right?

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And he thought that the office of the presidency must be above the appearance even the appearance of

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Corruption Dan right above it right let alone actually being fucking corrupt now

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What kind of president would ever?

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ruin the office of the presidency by being the most corrupt person in the

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Fucking world see now that sort of thing would lead me to believe that Jimmy Carter reasonable-ass cat

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Yeah, but this clip makes me think otherwise

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By the way, Jimmy Carter came out and said that 9-eleven should be investigated as a cover-up and then we don't

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Know exactly what the truth is that happened with that. So that's good for Jimmy Carter

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That story is up on prison planet calm right now as well

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Do you believe this?

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At this point in time isn't he in another country building homes for people he's not he's on a book tour

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He's on a book tour

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Okay

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And I know this because what Alex is basing this off of is a guy from we are change

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Which is an organization that we're gonna have to talk about a lot in the near future. Okay, not today

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They are a bunch of weirdos that are vaguely related to Ron Paul

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Vaguely related to 9-eleven truth right vaguely related to Alex Jones. There's a lot of

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It's a mess. They're they're a huge mess. They're they're a little bit in every Venn diagram. Yes

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This weird world forming in 2009 right and has formed

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and so one of the guys from we are change went out and

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Cornered not cornered, right? You just got a book signed at a Costco

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Sure, Jimmy Carter's on his book tour sign him books at a Costco. Here's the audio

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Thank you

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That's damning

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Man saying yes to get you to go away

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That's clearly a 9-eleven truth the right man former president at a Costco being polite to someone who wants his books

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He said he wants it investigated as a cover-up

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Jimmy Carter his response was yeah sure

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I mean

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It's not me, but I think it'd be nice. I guess if they want it and they're victims then I suppose

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yeah, all right, so one of that here's the only thing about that is

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given what this what all the shit that went down during Jimmy Carter's presidency I

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Could totally see him being a little bit on the side of like we had another Bush in there. So who knows?

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He might have done it. I know Dick Cheney

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Personally that dude would bomb anything but cats not gonna say that at Costco. That's true

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That's true to a random. Well unless he's got a membership. Yeah, then he's contractually obligated. That's true. You can't lie

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Terms and conditions may apply

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So at this point Alex takes a pivot and he doesn't have much going on on the show on the second

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He has one guest. His name is Dan Hamburg. He's a state

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member of the state Congress

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Which is he's a he was on he was in Congress for for like a really short period. Yeah a representative

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He's like a state state representative. That's the word I was looking for. All right. All right in the legislature

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yes, he's it he was in for like one term and then he

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Left and got involved with the Green Party and also a guru. Okay, sort of a swami

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So so I'm guessing that ignominy could be applied to the way that he left. I don't know

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I don't know all the details

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I didn't look into it much past the fact that he started hanging out with a swami. Hey, man. Hey, man

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How dare you have you ever read at the autobiography of a yogi?

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No, those dudes can float whenever those dudes can win low whenever I hear somebody who's involved in politics

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Who then gets involved with like a charismatic spiritual leader? I'm like

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Speaking which yeah, I want to give a preemptive go fuck yourself. Okay to this new party first go fuck yourself

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All right, this is to a preemptive go fuck yourself. This is to a new podcast that's out on the howl app from earwolf

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Uh, it's called the gateway and it's about teal Scott or I'm sorry teal swan that do you know who she is?

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No, she puts out YouTube videos where she stares into the camera and like you speaks in a lilting voice using

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Neuro-linguistic programming type little tricks to tell you about like your your past lives and your soul and stuff like that

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She's been around forever

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I used to watch videos of her back when I was fucking stupid and smoke a weed all the time, right mostly because she's

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incredibly gorgeous she is

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Garts sometimes we talk about Atlantis and it's kind of interesting. That's fun. Now. Here's why I say fuck you to this show

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Ah, I know already

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That this podcast is just going to be another one in the long line of these fucking serial knockoff

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Podcasts that end up covering a topic that's kind of interesting and then in the last episode will be like, well, I don't know

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Like that was that one about Franklin that cult leader guy at the end who equivocated in the last episode

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Yeah, the one about Heaven's Gate and the guy in the last fucking episode is like maybe they were all happy. Yeah

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You did an entire series

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Marshall Applewhite was a fucking crazy dude and he led to these people's deaths and then in the last episode you're like

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You know what? They might have felt like they belonged but maybe there's Heaven's Gate in all of us

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Oh fuck out. Fuck. Come on. So I know at the end of this one already. They're gonna be like

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Yeah, but maybe Teal Swan helps her the people who follow her like no, she's a con woman

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All these cult leaders maybe she's just like an MSR one is it is she yes Mr. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah ASMR I

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Was I talking about meningitis? I don't know what MSR

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Uh, yeah, she could just be talking real soft and people just like to hear that no

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No, there's there's there's cult aspects to it. Just like if you watch some of her videos there there there are absolutely cult aspects

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All right, so she's a con woman. Yeah

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but at the same time like I get the impulse to make those episode like those shows like that like have at the end like

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Oh, maybe people got something out of it like that sort of thing

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But can you imagine after we're done with can you put it up on the board that that is exactly what we're gonna say at?

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The end of this podcast we're gonna they're gonna do like 20 episodes and then they're gonna end it and we're gonna do

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Roughly all the episodes up until the point where climate change destroys this entire country and then we'll be like

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But you know what Alex Jones did make a lot of info warriors very happy. He made them feel secure. Yeah fear

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Yeah, maybe that's all we really need

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You know what? It's just like when you watch a horror movie. Sometimes you like to be scared

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Yeah, it's like you son of a bitch. How dare you?

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how dare you do a podcast where you investigate some subject and the entire thing is about how like

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Here's the evidence that they're fucking with people and then at the end just like double back to be like wow

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We're not saying anything. Yeah. Oh, I hate it. Ah take a position

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Anyway, I will still listen to it

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But of course you will but just because I want to be right you want to get to the end so you can be like

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Haha, I told you so exactly. All right. So anyway, we're gonna get a great write-up at the end of that podcast

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Put out by gizmodo. Oh no

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We're not getting anywhere. Yeah, so there's nice put out by guys gizmodo. Damn it guys

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This next clip Alex takes a call from a listener who's very clearly a sovereign citizen

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Okay, you can tell by his language and this sovereign citizen

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There's a weird problem that he wants to talk to Alex about at the end of this. It's about his free speech

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Oh, I was only in Michigan. You're on the air Roy Alex

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You know every time that they come against my neighbors freedom of speech or come against his right to travel without a license

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every time that they they

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Are come against any of the constitutional rights it's done through the courts and what needs to be done

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Yes, these courts need to have a number of the neighborhood get-together

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Around that individual and take in the file a waiver of tort against the judge

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And enough judges get this file against them and they will back off

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Well, you're right that what the courts are becoming so corrupt. It's it's comical. It wasn't so serious and

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because

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Because communities don't stick together because we've been taught to watch our TV sets to not go talk to our neighbors

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People don't sit on their front porches anymore. People don't go barbecue in their backyards at maybe once a year for the Super Bowl

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We first off we need to file a waiver of tort which sure if

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enough like if enough judges get it are

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National sovereign citizenship this dude's idea is that if enough judges get these they're gonna be like whoa

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We better change the law. Everyone knows that they're sovereign citizens. We can't fuck with them anymore

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That oh too many tort way of it. Love it in a waiver of tort whenever my neighbor is not allowed to travel without a

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license, oh

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How dare they to do wise and now he's not allowed to travel without a license awful

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Although rhetorically I'll say it's an amazing pivot for Alex from we've got to have these waivers of

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Being like no one barbecues anymore

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That was good, I do not want to talk about that

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thing

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But hold on we have not gotten to this guy's problem yet

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We are just looking at the glowing mind control box

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And not living while the organized government picks us off one at a time

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Go they're trying to pick me up right now for my freedom of speech

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And of course, I'm gonna fight this battle by myself, but I shouldn't be fighting it by myself. What are they doing to you?

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What's happening? Well, I have a billboard in my front yard, which is

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is uh, it's uh, twelve foot high and sixty-one foot long and it lays out the

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Nine one one it lays out the way cold. It lays it all out

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And it has even has it for worse as one of these sources for getting the documentation of what I'm saying

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Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy, if I gotta trim my fucking head

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You gotta take that billboard the fuck that is killing property values in the neighborhood

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I

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Have a billboard in my front yard and you're like well, there's clearly not a real billboard

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It's a 61 feet. Wait what it's in your feet by 60 fight by what?

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Oh, so what you have you have a billboard in your front yard, sir. I rent I

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I

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Mean I understand I get it I do I really do get it I get it

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I don't I want to know about the logistics of this billboard. I don't think it's a good word

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What did he hire people? Did he I think when you think billboard you're not thinking the right?

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I think you got foot by 60 foot seems billboard II to me 60

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It's no no. Wait, wait, did he say 60 foot? I feel like he's I may have I may have heard

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Maybe it's 12 by 6 feet. No, he did say 60. I think he said 6 12 by 6 would be nothing

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Yeah, exactly. He said billboard 12 by 60 seems billboards 60 feet is so big. It's so big

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It's 10 of me that yeah, that's that's six basketball hoops

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Let's just let's just think of other things that will eventually lead to 60 20 yards. Oh, man

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That is one fifth of a football field

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That is a if you get a holding penalty then you have first and 20 to go

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You gotta you get a penalty. Yeah size of this building. Yeah

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No, you gotta have two penalties to get to the size of the billboard

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So I feel his pain in terms of free speech. I don't I don't

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This is a no empathy situation for me in a vacuum. I get it. I get it. I get it

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Oh, you should be able to put up a billboard if you don't you should not but the reason you can't is because of

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like neighborhood associations because of

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agreements with your you're fucking over your neighbor because of the social contract and because like if

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You're put if you're living in a place where you can put up a billboard

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Conceivably the people will see who can see it also are in a residential neighborhood who owned their houses

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Yeah, you're not gonna get too many new people seeing that billboard seems like it would be not not super effective

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Um guys, I didn't think we were gonna talk about this billboard this let me let me tell you something

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You have no idea the kind of morning sunlight. You are gonna get out of these windows now your evening sunlight

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It's going to be blocked by a giant fucking billboard. Yeah one that says info wars on it. Also your morning sunlight

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Oh the windows also good luck reselling your house. Yeah

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So in this next clip, excuse me, you want me to take down this billboard? It's free speech infringement. I have a

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Waiver of a tort waiver. I will I will take you to court. Oh, no, I way of tort. I can't take you to court

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So in this next clip Alex talks about how there's a lot of people from the Trilateral Commission

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Oh, yeah involved in Obama's week-old

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Presidency. Oh, he's already gotta keep that in mind already doing it. We're still only a week on a week and a half

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This is evolved very quickly for one week

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They've set them all up on paper American Union is is openly operating. I was watching Davos Switzerland

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Meeting economic form they were admitting all this. I mean it but then the public isn't watching that

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They've been told it doesn't exist

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The pre-election attention is reminiscent of Brzezinski's

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Choo real big new Brzezinski's. Yeah, but real quick right there

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He went from talking extemporaneously to reading something without saying what he's quoting

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But without saying that he's reading something a source

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Tutoring of Jimmy Carter prior to Carter's landslide election in

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76 for anyone who doubts the Commission's continuing influence on Obama

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Consider that he is already appointed no less than nine members of the Commission to top-level and key positions in his

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Administration according to official Trilateral Commission membership list. There are only 78

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88 87 members from the United States the other 337 members are from other regions

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In less than two weeks since his inauguration Obama's appointments encompass more than 10% of the Commission's entire

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US membership

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There's a really easy explanation for that. What's that? It's a really elite group of very competent people

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I mean, I don't know. I I

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I think that there are I don't believe in competence anymore

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There are simpler explanations than one world cabals. You know what I'm saying? Yeah

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Is this a mere coincidence or is it a continuation of dominance over the executive branch to 76

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Well, they go read the policy reports put out by all these characters and they're all calling for world currency world tax world

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Army world regulation gun confiscation and they come in and what are they doing?

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for

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Information read the Trilateral Commission

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Usurping sovereignty. So right there. Where is the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty?

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You see he he says that the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereign

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Yeah, right after all he's talking about platform papers of there's policy papers like that

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Brzezinski, which is made to make you think he's trying to anchor in your brain

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policy papers and

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Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty right as if to imply the Trilateral Commission put out a paper called usurping sovereign

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Yes, where they're like fuck we're gonna usurp sovereignty or somebody else wrote a thing about how it revealing

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How the Trilateral Commission is usurping sovereign

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it was a blog post by a guy named Patrick wood called Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty and

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Nailed it the sequel to it is what Alex is literally reading off on air

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He just he spent like he does no real analysis of it and he just reads off verbatim from this blog post

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It was originally on a website called news with views dot-com

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I like it. We're gonna get to that. I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie. I think that's a good calm

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We're gonna get to news of the views here. Can we can we get a is that domain expired? No, it's still there

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It is we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna have to buy it

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So Patrick wood is a guy who now runs a website called technocracy comm

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I believe is warning people about the coming technocracy not as good as news with views

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He is also one of the main speakers for the red pill Expo that I desperately want to go to coming up in Spokane

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And I know I don't do it. I can't go that's where the cult I was born in Spokane. Yeah, Spokane, Washington, right?

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Yep, I'm sure connection that's where they were. Um, so he's one of the headline speakers of this Expo

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The other speaker I'm still just emceeing at zanies. I'm telling you. This is terrible shit. Yeah, the other speakers

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It's not a meritocracy dad. The other speakers are G Edward Griffin

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Who's the guy who wrote the Beast from Jekyll Island? Yep, which is about the creation the Federal Reserve right bunch of nonsense

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Lord Moncton one of Alex Jones's buddy

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he's the man the climate change denier who was paid by Exxon Mobil and got thrown out of the

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You know not important Larry Pratt

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He's the guy who runs gun owners for America and he is constantly on Alex Jones's show

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If you don't know gun owners for America is the more extreme version of the NRA great. Jesse Lee Peterson

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Who's a guy who I recommend?

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No one Google

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All right, he is a guy who is like he's a preacher maybe former that's not good

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No, don't like it's also a conservative radio host really don't like that, but he's someone who we will never talk about

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Probably on this show cuz I worry that he suffers from cognition issues. Okay, I've listened to a couple of

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Interviews that he's done and he's got some Alzheimer's. I don't know. I don't know if it's Alzheimer's, but there's something that's not firing

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In his head, there's an inability to

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Like and not I don't know how to describe it, but it watching him interview

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I watched an interview. He did with David Pakman the

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progressive

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YouTube talk show host. Okay and watching

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The way his brain worked and the responses. It was terrifying. Okay, I hated him

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But I also was like you should you should be in a home. Oh, no, it was like one of those things

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I don't know how you dress yourself. Oh boy that kind of thing. I feel like there might be might be Alzheimer's

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You don't think it's an act could no no, it's definitely not it's for real genuine. It made me terrified. Okay, it may it made me

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Shutter anyway, he's gonna be at the red pill. Hey

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Also, Twyla brace who we've encountered. Oh, it's somebody who's not a straight white, dude. That's nice. We got a lady

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That's nice who works for a number of coke funded

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Organizations less nice less nice. We've seen her. She came up on the show in 2008. That's right. We ran into her

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Lavois Finnecom's wife who's the guy who died at the Oregon standoff with the Bundy people?

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He's the guy who got murdered by the police. All right when he was

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All right screaming at them kill me. Yeah. Yeah, is she still calling for a sheriff to investigate that not entirely

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She's speaking at the red pill expo. Hey and Cynthia McKinney

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Also, the event appears to be entirely sponsored by freedom force international

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Which is a group whose website does not appear to have been updated since late 2016. All right, I like very weird

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So I was looking at the news with views because I'm like, I don't know because it's a great fucking name

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Sure, and I don't know the organization. I don't know their editorial standards or anything. You just know they got news

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They got views

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I don't know what Patrick like I can sense from Patrick would and like some of his writings that he's an Alex Jonesy kind of

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Yeah, and so but I was like, I don't know if maybe this is a legit blog and it's just something that isn't in my sphere

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Or anything. Okay. So now we're gonna get Patrick Woods views on the news. No, because he doesn't run this

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It was just published on there. There's a bunch of writers

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Okay, and one of them so one of the articles from the last couple days headline British government jails were wait today

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It's still like the last couple of days in like 2018. Oh, it's still operate still operate ten years past

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Yeah, well, I mean, it's just shitty blogs. All right. I mean, I got yeah, it's not hard

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But here's one of the headlines British government jails journalist for exposing Muslim pedophile ring

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This is a story about Tommy Robinson and that headline does not at all convey what Tommy got arrested for

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What did he get arrested for? He got arrested for well a couple months ago. He got arrested for disturbing the peace and

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precipitating

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Like agitating and trying to start a riot outside of a courthouse where a Muslim was on trial great

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And so he got arrested for that and then the judge got arrested for being a weirdo in the 1700s agitating white shithead

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Yeah, exactly

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and I only bring the white part in because that's part of his agitation of course so he got arrested for that and then the

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the judge said

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I'm not gonna send you to jail, but you're a bad judge, but I'm going to give you a sentence

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And if you get arrested again, you're going to jail for that sentence. And so he did it again. You got arrested

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Hey good, so he got his suspended in jail. His suspended sentence got put on him. How long was he in there?

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I don't know. I don't care. I don't really particularly have no interest in following

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I feel like there should be

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Look if there's mandatory minimum sentences for crack

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I feel like there should be mandatory life sentences for these assholes

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Yeah, just like just like and not even not even like a jail not even like a prison that is tough

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Just like a just like a you're over there in this little like a playground

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Like you go to a playground and that's where you stay forever. Couple points. First, it's the UK

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I don't know how their legal system works. Playgrounds. Second of all, you have got to go to your show

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So we got to get through some of this stuff. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We've been having too many dalliances

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All right. I'm as guilty as you are. I know

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Wow, it's just been so long since we've been. I know. It's been a week.

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I love talking to my friend. It's fun. Yeah

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So the other the other headline that I was attracted to from news with views is

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Twyla Davis. Twyla Brace. Whatever. But no she I don't know if she writes for them

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But this headline was you would be racist if dot dot dot. All right. Now that's that's gold right there

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That's the most clickbait-y thing I've ever seen. Not good. You gotta click on it

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That is the most

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So

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This is by a guy named Frosty Wooldridge

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Nope. Nope. No. Pet name. No. Refuse. Frosty

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Refuse. He stays frosty throughout this I'll tell you that. No. No.

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I'm against all of this. So it includes such passages as this

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Quote, in the last 48 hours the entire cast and crew of ABC's hit comedy Roseanne

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suffered immediate job displacement for the single tweet by the show's star Roseanne

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Barr that made the comparison of Valerie Jarrett a Moslem

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M-O-S-L-E-L. With M-O-S-L-E-L. Of course. Aid to former Barack Hussein

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Obama to a character. Gotta put the Hussein in there. And doesn't even say

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former president. She says former Barack Hussein Obama. This is terribly

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written stuff. So then that

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that's one sentence then it starts another sentence which as you know equates

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to the biggest oxymoron on this planet. Moslems prove themselves

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to be the most racist religious economic political organization

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in the world. Still not an oxymoron. When satirists compared former president George

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W. Bush to a monkey with a chimp that bore very similar resemblance

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not a word of racism from the CNN and like-minded media outlets

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Yeah. On Facebook black women give lectures on whites

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Whites. You added that. Come on. You can read it.

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Frosty. Frosty. I read it too. When you said

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whites I was like you nailed it. But I'm still got it pointed out. It's somehow on the page.

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So black women. It's H-W-H-I-T-E.

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On Facebook black women give lectures on whites being racist

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because of the color of their white skin. Is white a color?

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It's the absence of color? Double ironic. No that's black.

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I always got that confused myself. White is the combination of all colors

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black is the absence of colors. I could have swore it's the opposite. It seems like it should be

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but it's not. It should be the opposite. Alright alright. Double ironically black rappers

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use the... Double ironically?! Black rappers use the N-word

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in their songs with such vulgarity as to think they hate

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they hate themselves distrust themselves and totally negate themselves

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as human beings. Never a word from the mainstream media

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exclamation point. You only get one exclamation point.

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Oh he uses a bunch. Oh right then he's discounted as a writer. You are

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a racist in America if you don't support Miss Black America which is racist

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in itself. The same holds true for black entertainment television that features

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only black actors exclamation point. You would be racist if you don't support

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the United Negro College Fund which again supports all black colleges

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which again is racist in itself. The NAACP represents only black

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people which makes it racist. More than 50 all black organizations

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operate with blacks only. Never a word from the

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mainstream media exclamation point. You would be racist if you don't support

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the TV sitcom Blackish. Now you would be a racist.

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You would be racist if you don't support the sitcom Blackish which produces

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and features only black people. Ironically if whites choose to have

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Miss White America the mainstream media would attack. Same with all white

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national basketball league or whitish or white entertainment television or all white

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college fund or all white colleges. In fact whites could form

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exactly the white version of every black organization in America and those whites would become

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racist. Editorial note that was called the past.

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All of the things he just described.

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It's almost as if look if you had a sport

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that wouldn't allow black people in it and was existing for like 70

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years. Let's say there were nine people on the field. One

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of them throws a ball and the other one tries to hit it. Like no big deal. And you wouldn't allow

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black players to do it and you had an all black league. Those

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it was the black league that was racist. That's who was really causing

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it. Old Satchel Paige. He was just a racist.

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Totally. Yeah. Totally. Yeah it was his fault. But like the idea of all white

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scholarships, all white colleges, all white sports leagues, Miss White America, all that

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stuff. It's like hey bro. What are you doing? Yeah.

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What is this article really? So then hold on.

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The end of this dismount is

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breathtaking. It's so shocking. Let's hear it.

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Look at the racism of Moslems in America. Alright. It's horrible, dirty, barbaric

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and growing. We see Moslems pushing for Sharia law which presents the most

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racist organization in the world. Moslem conquest in America will

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dwarf all racism charges to a fraction of our current problems. Not a word

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from mainstream media exclamation point. In the end

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races don't naturally get along with one another. What?

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Whoa. Whoa. Damn.

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Holy shit. He just nailed it. Frosty. What the fuck? Frosty.

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What are you saying? In the end

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America should be for whites and Africa should be for blacks. That's fine.

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That is. No. That's not even the end.

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That's not the end? No. Alright. In the end races don't naturally

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get along with one another. People prefer to be among their own. I don't see

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it changing. On a personal level all I can do is respect all races, colors

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and ethnic groups. Whoa. Alright. Alright. Alright. Every person

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does the best he or she can to make it down the road of life. Sure.

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Sure. Sure. Alright. Frosty

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you nailed it. So that's crazy and very racist.

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That's the publication. That's news with views.

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Those are the kind of views on the news. Those are the views on the news. Yeah. I gotcha. I gotcha.

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Alright. Alex is just reading from that blog. Great. Great.

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If they'll publish that it seriously calls into question like what else?

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You know what else are they publishing? What are their standards?

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No that guy just did a white America for whites, black Africa for blacks.

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Totally. That's exactly what he was doing. That's what's underneath him the whole time.

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Especially the Moslems. Oh yeah. Get them the fuck out.

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The biggest issue with him as a representative of the white race apparently

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figure out what the fuck an oxymoron

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is, figure out what irony is, and then figure out what you're fucking

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talking about because you're goddamn stupid. Oh if that was embedded satire

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That's true. That is true.

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It's not. It's so poorly written. Anyway at this point Alex Jones gets a caller

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on the show on this February 2nd episode.

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He asks him a troubling question. And the third question.

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Oh real quick. The first two questions are on the board.

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The fact that there were two questions is the troubling part. They're not important.

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They're like basically why would anyone deflate currency?

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It has to do with the people who are responsible for

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what we're in. When considering the history

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of Bolshevism and the Communist Manifesto

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and considering the protocol of the elders of Zion and considering

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Harold Rosenthal's interview and many other

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documents, what do you think the relationship between

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Zionism and the New World Order is?

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Do you think Zionism is a genuine racist movement?

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And really that's about all I have.

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Okay that's three huge questions. So he goes on to answer

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the first two questions. And he sort of

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fumbles around a little bit to get to the third question. And here's his answer.

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And on the subject of Zionism, we have guests on here

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to talk about what Zionism is. Zionism isn't a criticism

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of Jews themselves. Zionism is a political ideology

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very similar to what Hitler said.

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Or what the white supremacists say. Or what the black Israelite movement says.

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I mean every group. Japan has a group that says they're the master race. Everybody

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else is scum. And it says that everybody else are basically

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animals who can be killed and destroyed at will.

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And it's a horrible political system certainly for

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the Palestinians in and around Israel. And so I am in opposition to that apartheid

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type system. I think it's very hypocritical that Israel

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can do things way worse than what South Africa did and it's a-okay with the

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media. But then what South Africa did was bad. No it's

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both equally bad.

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I don't know man. We've already encountered this

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in terms of this being something that's different about him in the past and in the present.

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This is crazy. It's good to just remind.

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I've come to a point where I believe earlier in the episode I told you

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that there are less and less questions about Alex now.

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A lot of answers. And one of the

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Or at least more like a lot of signs

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pointing directly to Bugs Bunny's rabbit hole.

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This is what's up. And one of them

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is here in this next clip. This is one of the clips that

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I would say in 2009 has been a really surprising

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clue for me that Alex would be this overt

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about things. This was a pretty sizable like look here.

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Look here. That's why I'm saying we need local currencies

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competing with regional currencies, competing with national currencies, competing with international

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currencies. That way elites can't corner the market. It's a separation

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of powers within the entire monetary scheme.

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It is a liberalization of the symbols of credit.

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That's really dumb. Wow.

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I understand where that thought comes from in terms of like

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if there was only one currency in the world, if someone could control that

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currency, they would control all sales. They would control the world, yeah. And then if you take

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that on a smaller level, it's like if there's one currency in our country

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and someone could control that currency, then they control the country. Exactly.

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You have that sort of mentality and I understand where that comes from, but

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boy, we've done this experiment. Like we have.

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How did it go? It didn't go great. It didn't? No. How did Jackson

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feel about it though? I don't remember exactly how he felt about it. He was a big fan.

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He was a big fan. But we had

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competing. I was talking about Michael Jackson. Oh, yeah. He was bad.

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That guy. He was a thriller.

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The thing is, in the early 1900s

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we had, in the late 1800s, we had

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states that just had their own currencies and stuff.

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There was no rules against that. Banks would put out their own currency. Right.

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We had tons and tons of currencies and one of the issues that you

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run into that with is interstate acceptance of other currencies.

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Here's how stupid this is. If you have Illinois bucks, do they work in Missouri?

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Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Plus. This is the concept of

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Disney bucks competing with Six Flags bucks.

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Yes. It's stupid. Or Disney bucks competing with dollars. Yeah,

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exactly. It's fucking stupid. Well, because Disney bucks and dollars

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both work in Disney, but Disney bucks don't work outside of

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Disney. Unless we allow for the free and fair

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competition between currencies that we've all desired. Right, and the only way for

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all of that to really ever happen in any meaningful way

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first of all you need coordination between all of these people who put out these various

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currencies and they'd all need to be tied to a commodity or something.

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Gold standard. Well basically, it wouldn't have to be gold. It could be silver

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or copper or whatever. You might as well make coins

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from Egypt. Beef. Yeah, it's stupid. Beef coins.

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Yeah, beef coins. I would eat a beef coin. How much is

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one beef coin? 75 cents. 75 cents? See, I don't

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believe that because that's a nationalized currency. So I've been doing, like I've been doing

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a ton of research into the none dare call it

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conspiracy stuff. And a lot of it has to do with the beginning of the Federal Reserve.

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And a lot of it has to do about jacking off to the gold standard, what have you.

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A lot of it. And so I've been reading like hundreds of pages of

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congressional record from the 1920s. Like I've been

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looking into this stuff to figure out exactly like what was going on? What are

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they lying about? Where are the specific lies? And when I hear Alex Jones

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come on the show and say we need local currencies, we need state

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currencies, we need, like to me it's like

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you didn't, you don't know

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why we have a Federal Reserve. You don't understand why we have

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a national currency. You don't understand why the gold standard was abandoned to

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begin with. Like it's because all that stuff created so many problems.

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And those problems have largely gone away since then. Well it's one of

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those, it's one of those things. Outside of like legitimately.

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Outside of the Great Depression, we have not had an instance of

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a severe bank run since the Federal Reserve

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was founded. We would have in 2008

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if the stimulus package wasn't passed. We would have been fucked.

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But again, the Federal Reserve came about in like what, 1914?

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And that's 2008, the Great Depression

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and I can't remember what the third one was. There were three instances

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of collapse, like close to collapse

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since then. Like before that, in the 15 years prior

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to, or the 25 years or so prior to the

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foundation of the Federal Reserve, three giant panics. Like it

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happened all the time back then. So like this whole shit is

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nonsense. And the fact that Alex is a spousal, that means like

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I don't think you've thought about this, Alex. I think what you want is

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a secession. But that's the thing about conservatives

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in general is they don't want

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a real, they don't want a solution. They want the

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problem to be what they think it is. They want a micro problem.

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Just like when my, and my dad said this, he was like, when the government

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doesn't have as much money, it's just like when the family doesn't have as much

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money and you tighten your belt and you cut down the deficit. And you're like

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okay, I get why you think that

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makes sense. Conceptually that makes sense. Practically, in

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practice, that's the fucking dumbest idea that you can

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possibly say. That's generally how you make things worse. They just don't want,

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they just don't want to accept that there are evidence-based solutions.

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They can't handle that. It needs to be an ideologically-based

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solution for them. Also it sucks when like whatever you are advocating

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has been done before and like nah, it didn't work, sorry dude. Oh, do you mean a million times?

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Over and fucking over again? But I don't know

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I don't want you to... Oh, you know what, we can't have, we can't have

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the new deal because it'll never work even though it kept

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yeah, it did work, but that was because of the conservatives

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did the... And so has getting rid of the gold standard

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and the federal reserve. Yeah, but we need to go back to it because I didn't,

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I wasn't alive when the consequences were around. Right.

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So I don't have to pretend that they're real. And I believe a bunch of

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fucking liars who wrote weird books that seemed to be working together

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back in the 70s. But anyway, we'll get to that later.

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I don't want you to think that I just had a

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I was just speaking glibly and strayly when I said that I think Alex

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really, all he wants, when he wants local currencies and he wants local

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state currencies and stuff like that,

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go ahead, he doesn't, he's not saying that

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because he wants a unified whole with

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competing currencies, it's because he wants those entities to be separate from each

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other. He wants secession. He doesn't want the United States to exist.

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Right. It's all happening. They're coming with armed force

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against us. Oh, I should be clear, this is the beginning of February 3rd, so now we

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jump to the next day. Gotcha. For your land, your property,

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your children, they are usurpers, they are pirates.

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Tyranny is when pirates get control of government.

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They are a gang with a flag

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and they have these big official sounding titles, but as the Declaration of

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Independence reads, when they become destructive of the aims of

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liberty and freedom in the people, it is the people's right, it is their

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duty to abolish that form of

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government and set up a new one. All I want is our old form.

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These are revolutionaries. I'm a counter-revolutionary. They've come in,

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bought off our government, overthrown it, and now they're really

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getting ready to do a Soviet job. And I don't joke when I say this, if they

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win, they're going to kill 100 million of us. They're going to kill most of us

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listening right now. They want to murder you and your family. Cool boy.

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So there's shades of present day Alex in terms of going out to break with a murder

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threat. But he doesn't do an ad pivot beforehand. He doesn't have

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products yet. 2009 he doesn't have products. All he has is

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his prisonplanet.tv memberships and his documentaries.

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He hasn't even put out the Obama deception yet. He's still editing it.

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So like we're probably three years away from him having

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supplements. Damn. Yeah he's not... Now the

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thing that does make me think up

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is in a, like with

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the quote from the Declaration of Independence, something that

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I am kind of interested in right now is what happens

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after Trump is, like what happens after we

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prove that he cheated, right? Like shouldn't,

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like all of his things should be

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validated, right? Like isn't that the only thing that makes sense

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is if he is impeached and gotten rid of, also we should be able

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to kill him for treason, right? Yeah I think so. Like that's the rule. Well I mean

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we don't have access to the information and the evidence but if

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Yeah but he committed treason. If that is the case then that is the

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prescribed punishment. So I mean I don't... So why

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I'm not saying kill him but I'm saying that does track... No if

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he's committed treason he gets killed. You know like that's the rule. So then

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shouldn't that invalidate fucking everything?

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It's tough to be president after you've been hung. Right. Or whatever.

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And your actions as president should be vacated because you

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cheated. You're wrong. Like Gorsuch should be gone.

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Like that's the rule. You'd think but I don't... But it's gonna stick around.

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There's no way to do that. Right? There's no way to really do it beyond

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you could have like a fucking revolution. You could have a re-vote or something like that

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on everything. Re-vote in Congress. Yeah but it's

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Has anybody really considered what happens afterwards? That's why it's

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called a crisis. It's a constitutional crisis for that reason. Because all those

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questions will have to be answered. I mean it's the same thing with like the continuity

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of government. There was a point where no one knew what was gonna happen if the

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president died. Right. And that would have caused a crisis. Right.

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At this point we're at that state where there is no plan for continuity of

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government. Except it's not if the person dies it's if we find...

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Is that bananas? Isn't that the concept of

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us like trying to continue being a country after we find

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out that our country was stolen. Well I think what

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you'll end up with is... I don't know. I have no idea

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how to... Right? I was gonna try and say something but I have no idea. Who the fuck knows?

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It's bananas. Like my suspicion is everybody's going to

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try and to pretend that it's like, no this

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is normal. Like we just, we just, we just... That's what a lot of people are doing now. Impeach him.

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We just impeach him. And then he's gone and then Mike Pence is president.

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No, Pence will pardon him, be a lame duck until

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2020. But shouldn't Pence be hung too? I don't know.

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God, so many people should be hung. These aren't decisions I can make. These aren't

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I don't know. I mean my gut says yes. Right? I don't know.

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I don't know how to do that. I feel like

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it's so irresponsible for us to assume that we know

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the capital T truth about stuff. No, no, no. We don't.

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You can look at stuff and you can see how everyone is behaving like

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runaway con men. Runaway scam artists just trying to...

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Just the very fact that Trump's

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lawyers are like, don't testify because

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you're going to commit perjury. That's a bad sign.

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Oh, you're going to try and fight the guy asking you a question.

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It's not good. It's not good. Trump can pardon himself is my favorite

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is my favorite legal bullshit right now. I love it.

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I thought that's not true. No, it's absolutely not true. But he's saying it is.

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He's like, I can pardon anybody, even me. That's not

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corruption. Who cares? We've got too much to get through. We've got to

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shut this line of thought down. So I just

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want to bring back into sharp focus. That clip, he's very clearly saying that

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we've got to overthrow the government because they're coming after us. They're going to kill your

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family. We have to overthrow the government because they've become abusive.

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We have to. Now I want to say that that clip

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makes it not that impressive that I've sussed out that he's not really into the idea

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of the United States existing. Right. But he says something later that brings

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it into a little bit more focus. Okay. And we'll talk about it

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when we get there. But for now, I've found another really giant thing

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that's different between modern day Alex Jones and 2009, and that is

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his support or non-support of a certain organization.

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So the 68 Gun Control Act that the NRA promoted and pushed

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and got passed. Oh, you didn't know that on record?

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Oh, you thought they were your friends. How are they going to disarm 150 million

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gun owners? They're going to do it by controlling the group that

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supposedly is there to protect you. Uh-oh. Alex hates the NRA.

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Alex doesn't like the NRA in 2009. He hates the NRA. That is bananas.

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He's fans of Larry Pratt's group, Gun Owners for America,

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and I can't remember the exact name of the group, but there's a group called

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Jews for the Preservation of Gun Ownership. Sure.

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One of the episodes we're going to be covering on the next episode,

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it's in February, he has the guy from that on and that guy

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is fucking nuts. Yeah. He is aggressive. What?

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That guy's nuts? Yeah, oh man, he is rude

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and totally crude. Crude and oh, he's a bad

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dude. But I mean, this is interesting on one level because I

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think this is actually one of the differences between

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present day and past that could be

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I would be willing to be like, alright, I got you, Alex. Yeah. You're not that

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big of a hypocrite for this one. Right. Because I don't think in 2009

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that the NRA was as crazy as it is now. It's not. They still

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were a bunch of shitheads and Alex is wrong to say that they want

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to help take away your guns. Right. But they weren't like the

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Ted Nugent, Oliver North, Dana

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Lash. Still hard to believe that Oliver North is allowed to live. Like that

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it wasn't that wing of crazy gun shit. Right. You know

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like, it wasn't like, these people probably want to shoot me.

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Yeah. Oh, they totally do. Yeah, and so there's a chance that Alex could

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like, without giving up his principles, be against them back then

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and before them now. I kind of could, I could accept that

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but it also tracks with all the different changes. Right.

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Like all the other stuff that we have up on the board. Right. It also tracks with like, what

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are the policies that the Koch brothers would probably ask him to switch

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if he was to take their money. They support the NRA.

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Like, this Alex Jones has a paranoia

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towards almost any organization. He still loves guns. Don't get... No, no, no.

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Of course he still loves guns. But it's the organization. Yes.

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He just has a blanket paranoia right now. Anything that

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like, it's almost, it's almost a

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thought that tracks that anything that has as

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much power as these organizations should not exist.

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Like, that's kind of his concept. Any group that could possibly

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sway you could sway you towards non-liberty. Exactly. Yeah.

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Or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not taking into account that that also includes him.

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Yeah. There's a really funny point where he talks about how like, more than an hour

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of television a day has been proven to give you Alzheimer's. That sounds right.

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Alex, your show is on for more than an hour a day. Yeah.

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It's not TV. It's not TV. It is at this point. Oh, three hours long? That's not TV.

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It's YouTube. It's YouTube. Not TV. It's Prison Planet

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Dot TV. Yeah, don't worry about it. So, in this next clip,

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Alex tries to get scary.

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Imagine these control freak nobodies who've never had a business, never done anything in their lives.

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They just go get a uniform, they get a little tattletale phone, a lot of them

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get guns, tasers, just running around, and they want your houses.

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They want your property. They're greedy, low-down little scumbag

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bastards. They hate the middle class. They're going to turn loose the bureaucrat

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bloodsucker parasite class on the people.

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Armored trucks pulling up, led by

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little commie brigades. Oh, that makes me sick.

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And folks, everything I've told you has come true so far. I mean, are you ready for the rest to come true, or are we going to

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just go absolutely ape in the endfold war and defeat these bastards? Because what

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they're doing is so over the top. If we just point out what these bastards are doing,

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there's no way they're going to get away with it. So the only reason I kept

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that in is because some fun imagery, but at the same time, I think it's

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demonstrating a really, really

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nascent version of his ad pivots.

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Because he's getting this stuff that's really scary, and then

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he's like, are we going to go ape in the info war? Which is kind of a buried

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plug for himself, you know, in terms of, this is the info war. I

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run the info war. Are you going to support? So there is sort of that

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spiritual plug that's going on there after the scare, which is

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the mode now, which has been, that's how he sells his products.

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So I think that it's really interesting to see, like, this is the kernel.

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This is the seed that will germinate and grow into that eventually.

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What's fun about that is that it has now been proven

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super wrong. Like, if we just point it out, it'll go like,

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no, that's not true at all. Betsy Devos, we just

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pointed out that she stopped thinking about fucking

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diversity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just

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stopped doing all of the things that protect minorities.

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She just stopped doing it, and we pointed it out, and nothing

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is going to happen. Here's what you don't get. You point out what the globalists are doing, and they say

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and they scamper into the corners. Right. You call out and point out what racist

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patriots are doing, and they're like, nah, I'm going to do more. Yeah,

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pretty much. So that's kind of how that works. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta

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get rid of Scott Pruitt. Like, don't we have enough on Scott Pruitt

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now to just, like, at the very least kneecap

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him for the rest of his life? I agree, but we can't do the show like this. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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We can't do the show like this if your schedule is like this. I'm sorry, I'm sorry! The future

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will be better. This is the last time that we have, uh, Jordan has a show right after

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we record. But, uh, I agree, I agree. Yeah. The issue is

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also that none of that stuff that Alex is talking about ever ended up happening. Right. The idea

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of commie brigades, and fans, and whatever. And you know why it didn't happen?

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Infowars pointed it out. Exactly. They got ape in the Infowar.

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So, at this point, Alex gets a little visit from his buddy

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Mike Rivero, who, uh, if you recall, is the guy who has that show

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What Really Happened, also on the Genesis Communications Network. Uh-huh.

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He's also the guy, uh, just as a fun reminder, who has, uh, since

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hated Alex Jones. He got kicked off the network, I believe in 2010

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after the two of them had a bit of a fight about whether or not Alex was

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a shill for Israel. Right. Because, uh, Mike Rivero is

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very anti-Israel and believes that Alex, uh, now works for them.

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Man, I just wish your show were still around so he could tell us what really happened.

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Oh, it is still on. Oh, it is? Not on Genesis, but it's still around. It's on the internet.

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Well, now I don't want it. No, I don't either. So, anyway, Mike Rivero shows up

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and, again, a week and a half into Obama's presidency, this is how he's doing.

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Um, I'm already calling him the token president, not because of his skin

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color, but because everything he does in line with his campaign promises

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a token amount. He was gonna cut defense spending, it was a token amount.

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He was gonna end torture, he did the token measure of closing Guantanamo, but those

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prisoners are still other places and still being abused. Alright.

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I mean, you bring up some fair complaints, but you choose a different word.

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Yeah, if you're choosing the word token, it's because he's black. And you're doing it just to bait people.

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You're just trying to be antagonistic. Calm down, Mike. Anyway, at this point,

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the two of them are having a conversation. Guess what comes back up?

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Knuckle-gate 2009.

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It was in the New York Times that Rahm Emanuel, he was cracking his knuckles in a congressional

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meeting with congressional leadership with Obama there, and

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he said, please, Rahm, that's distracting. Don't do that.

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He's got this decorum. He, as a gentleman, has a lot of dignity that he projects.

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And Rahm got up in Barack's ear in front of the leaders of Congress

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and popped his knuckles in his ear and said, I'll do whatever I

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want. And then they put that in the New York Times. You'll notice that the story has evolved

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a little bit. Quotations have been added. Yep. Anyway.

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Before, he just continued to do it nearby. He did not

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stand up, go right into the president's ear, and

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crack his knuckles. And said, I'll do whatever I want. You son of a bitch.

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You president. Oh, you just became president?

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Like that means anything? I'm Rahm Emanuel. I'm future terrible

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mayor of Chicago. I heard he was quoted in the New York Times as cracking his knuckles

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and saying, I'll do what I want. I'm a ballerina. I'm a pretty, pretty ballerina.

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Crack knuckle, crack knuckle. I actually heard that he was just

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quoted as cracking his knuckles. I don't know, man.

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They wrote down asterisk crack, asterisk crack

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in quotation marks. He's also quoting, like,

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I don't know if this was in the New York Times, but Alex is just going based off what Wayne Madsen

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told him. Anyway, this gets even funnier.

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Funny. Debatable.

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The headline, the second most powerful man in America, I mean, he did that to let Congress know

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I run things. Yeah, that was definitely a very

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defiant thing. If I had been Barack Obama in that situation, Rahm would have been

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fired right there on the spot. And if Barack Obama does not move

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to establish or assert his control over the White House

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process, then he's basically, he's already crippled for the

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rest of his administration. For any business owner, imagine you've got ten employees around you

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at a conference table, one of them's popping their knuckles, you say, please stop that, and they get up in your ear

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and pop it in your ear, you'd be like, you're fired. And any other president,

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the whole staff kisses up to him. Not happening. It's in the news that Rahm

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bosses Barack Obama around in front of everybody. He's doing that, let everybody know

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he is the president, and he's not even an American, ladies and gentlemen. He's an IDF

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soldier, his father, one of the founders of Mossad. We're on the march, the empire's

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on the run. Okay, way to go out to print. That was quick, that was quick.

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Hey, spoiler alert, his dad did not start Mossad. Not true. Not true.

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Not true. Also, he is an American, he was born in Chicago.

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He is a... Not true. He is an American. Not true. IDF.

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He did volunteer

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derusting automobiles for Israel. That

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fucking traitor. Right. That, ugh, god damn it.

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He was a civilian volunteer with the Israeli

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government. And I mean, you know, you could say like, eh, it's kind of weird

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that an American citizen volunteered for a foreign government service.

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Eh, everybody goes to a kibbutz sooner or later. I'm fine with that.

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But also it's part of his heritage, like his family is, and if you look at

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his dad, Benjamin Emanuel, I believe, he changed

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his name. To Netanyahu. Yeah. He changed his name because

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his brother got killed by Arab, like in a skirmish with

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Arabs is the way it's always described in print. Sure. And so his brother's

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name was Emanuel and he took on Emanuel as his last name in honor of his brother.

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Oh, that's fine. So I can't remember what his original, his birth last name

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was. Eh, I'm out. He sucks. But his dad is a pretty hyper

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Zionist kind of guy. He's a real

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Israeli. Right. Ah, kind of guy. And so the idea that

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Rahm would go over there and volunteer, like that makes perfect sense to me.

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That doesn't seem that weird at all. To say that he's an IDF soldier

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is fucking insane in the stretch of the truth. And then to say that he's not

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American is crazy. He was born in fucking Chicago.

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And they say Obama was born in Hawaii.

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His mom is an American too and she was just of Jewish ethnicity. And they say

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she was a Rahm. With Jewish descent. It's crazy.

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Like that, but to Alex

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the argument against that is like, we should abolish birthright citizenship. Like that

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kind of a thing. Well, I don't think he's willing to say that in 2009.

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But he might be feeling it. But I think all of this is just

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further proof that back then Alex hated

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the state of Israel. And he's willing to have people on

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who are scoring pot shots against it. Right.

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The only reason you would critique Rahm this harshly and

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throw out, his dad created Mossad and he's not an American

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he's an IDF soldier, are like, I hate the state of Israel.

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Like that is just, Rahm is a proxy for Israel

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in terms of someone to punch. Or if not the entirety

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of Israel, he is using Israel as the prop.

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Yes. By which to discredit this guy, knowing full well that a lot

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of infill warriors are anti-Semites. It's very hard to say

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it's a chicken and egg thing. But I think it's one of those things that's like, who do you hate more, the chicken or

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the egg? Yeah. Hate them both. So it's not quite the same

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as the way we understand that. Both delicious. Burn them. I'm going to skip this next clip

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because it's just a caller saying that he doesn't believe that Obama can prove he's a citizen.

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Sounds right. The reason I'm skipping it is because this next

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caller is fucking amazing. Okay.

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He's going to introduce a character into the world of Infowars. Okay.

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That I'd never heard about before. And uh, mm mm mm.

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Mwah. Tre magnifique.

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Now besides that, I have a very important question.

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Years ago, in 2004. Is this Jeff Sessions?

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His name was retired Colonel Don D.

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Grand Prix. Yes. And I listened to that interview

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and I was highly impressed. I even, that he had the transcript

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I want to say real quick, when I was first listening to this episode, I blurt

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laughed when he said Don D. Grand Prix. Yeah, like

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that's the fakest fucking name I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Anyway.

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He was in the Grand Prix. I printed that out and

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he said, uh, wasn't he a

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member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at one time? He was assigned

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to it. Okay. No. He said

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that 70%, that he was

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in communication on a weekly basis with friends of his

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that worked in the Pentagon. And he said

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that 70, I believe it was 70% of the highest

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ranking military people were on

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our side. Patriots. And he believed that they were going

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to, uh,

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have like a counter coup d'etat is how he put it. But it did

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look, look, listen, I appreciate your call. Is that your question?

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Yes, I'm wondering what happened to that. And another thing is

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it just blows my mind that there is no, it seems to

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me like there is some people in the military

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higher ups with some integrity. No, I hear you. Let me

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let me, let me comment on that because we've got to get to other callers and you're a great caller, but I've got to move on.

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Here's a very important point. Great. I tried to get Colonel Donny Grand Prix back on.

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He had major heart problems. I don't want to get into his things he

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told me privately. Too many race guys. I say don't tell people, but I don't want you to

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medical problems. He was in serious medical trouble

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four or five years ago and couldn't come back on.

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Then I talked to his wife and I'm not even sure

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if he, well we need to call and try to find out. Mrs. Donny Grand Prix? Man, I don't even know if this dude's

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still alive. That's his answer to this guy. I don't know where

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Donny Grand Prix is. Fucking asshole with a fake name. I never knew where

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Donny Grand Prix is. Also, this fucking guy. Your

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accent makes me uncomfortable. I got to say.

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Even Alex Jones is like, whoa, that's too south. Too south.

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Get north of the Mason-Dixon line, Craig. Uh-uh, sir. New.

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You are about to drop the n-word, sir, and I can't

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have that. Now, boy howdy. Whenever I, I swear to

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God, I can't listen to an episode from 2009 and

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stretch my arms without hitting a weirdo.

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It's just this show is lousy with weirdos.

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In 2009. I'm sitting there listening and like, here's a

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call. Donny Grand Prix isn't even a guest on the show. He just

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gets brought up and now I get to learn about Donny Grand Prix.

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So I went and found the transcript of this interview. Alright, of course you did. Of course you did.

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I found the audio of it too, but I wasn't able to cut clips of it because you have to

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it's a mess how I was able to find it. I couldn't pull it up on my phone.

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But, Donny Grand Prix.

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Alright, claims. Throw it on me. It's spelled D-O-N-N

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space D-E space

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Grand Prix. G-R-A-N-D space

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P-R-E. So it's not I-X, at least. At least

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it's not, it's not that.

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Don De Grand Prix? De Grand Prix. So, Don De Grand Prix

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he claims to have had a 72 hour non-stop

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symposium with military, commercial, and recreational pilots

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right after 9-11. Not even Dave Chappelle could do that long.

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72 hours. Couldn't do it. Non-stop. Non-stop. Symposium.

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Just hanging out. Can't stop, won't stop. Three days

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no sleeping, just a bunch of pilots doing coke

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screaming at each other. Yep. And they unanimously agreed

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that the planes on 9-11 were not controlled by human pilots and had to have been

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remote controlled. They wrote up a 24 page

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report. These pilots are anonymous and will never be

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their identities ever be known. But

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Don De Grand Prix wrote up a 24 page report

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and he sent it to the government. Don De Grand Prix attests that the Chairman

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of the Joint Chiefs, whose name he had a very difficult time coming up with, and may not

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have, sent out 500 copies of it. I believe it was actually Ron

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De Grand Prix. I believe it was General Shelton at the time

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but he can't come up with the name at all. It's pretty funny

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in hindsight because none of these assholes who claim to be involved like Zach can't come up with the name

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Joint Chiefs. Isn't it Dave? It's not Dave?

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All these weird, mysterious, deep military sources you have don't know who's in charge

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of shit. Just seems to be a problem. Do you know why? Because they're not really

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in charge of shit. They know the names of the people who are really in charge of shit.

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So Don De Grand Prix set up 500 copies. Could you say his name like

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300 more times? I am going to have to. I believe you. So he sent it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff

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who sent out 500 copies of it to everyone, so everyone in the government

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at the time had to have been aware of it. Alex asks how he knew

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that these copies got out in the original interview from 2004.

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Quote, I got a telephone call and I think the date was the 5th of March 2002

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stating at the time the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment

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but he used the Marine Corps lingo semper fi

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always faithful. And so that, to him

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to Don De Grand Prix, was indication that like, ah, in code

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I know that I got your message. Well that's because his name

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though was Steve DeIndy 500.

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General Shelton has since gone on the record. Quote, General Shelton, who is now

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retired, also refutes Grand Prix's claim. Quote, I don't know this

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individual, Shelton tells Popular Mechanics. Quote, the name doesn't ring a bell

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and I certainly never saw a report he rendered alleging there was some type of conspiracy

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or that the National Guard pilots shot down Flight 93.

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Oh, that's another piece of his art. That's another piece? The National Guard shot down Flight 93?

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Yep, and he claims to know who they are and they're part of the

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North Dakota Airborne. We'll get to that in a moment.

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Oh, with Lenny de Kentucky Derby. Interestingly

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his symposium, the 72 hour symposium, and the report that came out of it have only

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ever been reported by Infowars

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and an unnamed newspaper in Portugal. Alright, an unnamed

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newspaper in Portugal. News With Views didn't even

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tackle this subject. They reference it a bunch in the

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interview on Infowars that Alex did, but they never give the name of the newspaper.

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They just call it The News in Portugal. I'm like, I just can't work with this.

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The News in Portugal. I can't work with this. Alright.

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Also, come on Portugal. What the fuck's happening? So listen to this exchange

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that the two of them had in that 2004 interview and see if

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you can get shades of the future in terms

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of Alex's narratives. So this is Grand Prix. He says,

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you see, as I outline in book one, he wrote a three part book, which we'll get to in a second.

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As I outline in book one

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and carry that on in book two. I call it The Fellowship of the Rings. I carry that on in book two

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as well as in book three. We were on the verge of a military coup d'etat.

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Two towers in Return of the King, respectively. And this was long in the planning, and

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even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical.

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We were close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots

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who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. In fact, a coup d'etat

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was pulled on the morning of September 11th, only it was an administrative, or what we call

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a cold coup d'etat, or as Alex would call it now, a soft coup.

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A story of which was called The Silmarillion.

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Alex's response? A reverse coup d'etat. Grand Prix? Yes, in fact.

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Alex, a counter-revolutionary junta.

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A counter-counter-revolutionary junta. You're picking up the pieces.

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This sort of mentality of a counter-coup has been a piece

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of Alex's worldview for 14 years.

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This is an interview from 2004 where he's pitching that narrative

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as being like, oh, there are good people in the military

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who are fighting against the coup that was launched on the morning

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of September 11th by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney,

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all these guys. There are people on the inside who are fighting. He's been doing this

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over and over and over again. I don't think anyone

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realized this. I don't see this ever talked about in terms of

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Alex Jones' reportage, being like, oh yeah, this counter-coup shit?

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He's just been failing to make that argument for

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the life of a junior in high school.

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That entire time. He watched Gundam Wing

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and was like, uh, that's the life. That's the reality

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right there. Oh, so also the fun part about this... That's a weird poll. Gundam Wing?

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Alright. The fun part about this interview is that Don Le Grand Prix's

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solution is a goddamn military insurrection. That'll do it.

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Here's Alex. Quote, I mean, it's ongoing. They're federalizing everything.

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They're militarizing everything. They're engaging in the classic takeover. Are they not?

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Le Grand Prix. Yes, they are. And from this, Alex,

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and I bring this out very clearly in book three, the only way we can stop it is

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with a classic counter-coup d'état where the military steps in.

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A classic counter-coup d'état. Classic. The classic coup d'état.

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Uh huh. Boy. Where we bring the military in, and under the

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aegis of the military itself, disengaging and disemboweling the civilian hierarchy

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and taking over and rerunning or reorganizing the federal government.

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I like that he can use the word aegis correctly. That's nice.

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Also, point me to

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a classic counter-coup, Dan. I think

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it only exists in propaganda. I don't want the New Coke

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coup. That's some bullshit right there. Bring me back to

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a classic Coca Cola. I think it only exists in propaganda because it's always

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a narrative that's used to justify fucked up actions. Yeah. By being like

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we were just fighting against something more fucked up. It's the Iraq War preemptive strike.

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Right. That's what it is. Also in this interview, Don De Grand Prix

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accuses Israel of using miniature nuclear weapons in 1991 against

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Baghdad. Like really tiny ones? Mm hm. Don De Grand Prix makes a wild

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claim. Quote, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff himself. Can you please just call him

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DDGP? Yeah. Okay. DDGP makes this claim. Quote, the Chairman

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of the Joint Chiefs of Staff himself has agreed there were no hijackers on 9-11.

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There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew

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were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after takeoff and you can take it

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from there. 8 to 18 minutes? Mm hm. That's a

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weirdly specific and yet at the same time stupid

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time frame. Yeah. Also he gives out his phone number. But is that 10 to 20? He gives out his phone number

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which we would call right now except he's dead so. Oh god dammit. Yeah I know.

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But he does, it's another Larry Nichols moment where it's like why are you giving out your phone number on the air?

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Um, Alex reveals. What is his phone number? Uh, 50

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I don't know cause someone might have it now. Someone who does not. Oh that's true.

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That's true. Yeah I don't want to give it out. I still kind of want to call it. Yeah I do too.

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We can. Okay. Um, Alex reveals his amazing lack of concern for details and

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confirmation in the interview when he says this. Quote, we're about to go back to the

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Colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota National Guard that

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had been moved to Langley, Virginia a few months before 9-11 and then

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went in there and shot down that Flight 93 over Pennsylvania. He says

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he's talked to the pilot. His info checks out.

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Checks out how. I love the

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the tossed off, oh it checks out. I've thoroughly vetted it.

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In one of his books, Don de Grand Prix reveals that the pilot he knows

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who shot down United 93 was a guy named Major Rick Gibney. However

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the Air National Guard has pointed out that Gibney is a

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Lieutenant Colonel, not a Major. So that doesn't work. And they can confirm

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he was nowhere near United 93 on 9-11. Quote, he took off

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from Fargo, North Dakota and flew to Bozeman, Montana to pick up Ed Jacoby Jr.,

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the director of the New York State Emergency Management Office.

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Gibney then flew Jacoby from Montana to Albany, New York so Jacoby could coordinate

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17,000 rescue workers engaged in the state's response to 9-11.

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Jacoby confirms the day's events. Quote, I was in Big Sky for

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an emergency managers meeting. Someone called to say that an F-16 was landing

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in Bozeman. From there we flew to Albany. Jacoby is outraged

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by the claim that Gibney shot down Flight 93. Quote, I summarily

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dismissed that because Lieutenant Colonel Gibney was with me at the time.

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It disgusts me to see this because the public is being misled. More than anything else it disgusts

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me because it brings up fears. It brings up hopes. It brings up all sorts of

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feelings. Not only to the victims' families but to all the individuals throughout the country.

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And the world for that matter. I get angry at the misinformation out there.

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So it seems like he was probably lying about that. A little bit. Uh, because

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there's also electronic records of where these planes were, where Gibney

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was. Also there's some problems when you look into

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Colonel John de Grand Prix. The first of them is that he's always

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referenced as a colonel but there's no consistency in terms of what he claims to be a colonel of.

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The bio that Alex reads on his show says that he's a retired army colonel

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but Grand Prix refers to himself as both an Air Force and Marine colonel in various

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blurbs he's posted about himself online at various different times. Yeah, those two things

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they notoriously are interchangeable. Also the three

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Don't you know how the Marines and the Air Force fucking love each other? Also the three books

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that he's written do not refer to him as a colonel. They just say Don de Grand Prix on the cover.

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Also in his bio on Amazon it doesn't say that he's a colonel at all.

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His rank is never mentioned. Probably because if he did put that into

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print in official places. Somebody might. Could be stolen valor.

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He could get sued for that. The second problem is that in his

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book Barbarians Inside the Gates he asserts that the Holocaust was a hoax

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and was planned in 1919 in order to create the state of Israel. Pretty much

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all of his arguments and writings of history go back to an argument that

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the Jews did it. He's a big old anti-Semitic conspiracy.

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Basically. But man it's fun

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that his name is Don de Grand Prix. It's too good. It's real fun.

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So he's a big old liar and a lot of the information that Alex Jones

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has about 9-11 some of it definitely comes from him

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and he is just a fucking creepy anti-Semitic weirdo. Anyway

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in this next clip Alex gets back to secession. There is real

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discussion out there about secession. We have an independent movement here in Hawaii

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which is founded on the fact that Hawaii statehood is not legal to begin

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with. And so I would think that as we saw with the fall of Rome

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as the central government bankrupts itself the outlying provinces or in this case states

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start to break away and assert their independence and I think ultimately that's

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what we're going to see happen. That's Mike Rivero.

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I want to be clear. I'm for the union. But it isn't a union.

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We have to break apart first to come back together

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in the people so choose because the globalists as they did in China 150 years ago

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the same system here starting with phony drugs they shipped

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in and then break down the society. That's mainline history.

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They weren't phonies. That's why they worked.

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They merge larger units in the continental unions

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to then break up and destroy the sovereignty of the original units

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in smaller parts through balkanization. So we've got to

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break apart ourselves if we're ever going to reconstitute the

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republic. That'll show them. And I can't see how Hawaii couldn't break away.

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Sure. So this I think is what Alex's like

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real mentality is. Is that break up? Colonicalism

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is good but it's also fake? Break up the United

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States is what he really wants. And then he's like

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well maybe we'll come back together in a non globalist government

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but that's foolish. Well that was actually

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kind of the thing that I was talking to you about a while back

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like every ten years we should have a re-up vote

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where it's like every state is like do you want to stay in the United States or no?

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It's different. I mean yeah it's different but there's

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a certain part of that where it's like the reason that he thinks

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we're going to come back together is because... He doesn't. No of course not.

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He doesn't think that. But what he's selling you on is the idea that

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we will. Right. Out of choice. Right. And it's a big difference between

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us hanging together now as almost like tradition

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is that if we break up everybody's going to be like oh well I guess America

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was good. But Alex isn't fucking stupid. He understands that if the

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union breaks up... Don't you say that. Well he is stupid. But he's not that

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stupid. He knows that if the union breaks up Texas let's say for example

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is never going to join another union that has

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gay rights. Texas is never going to join

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another union that allows women access to abortions.

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Texas is never going to join some place that's not

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basically a Christian reconstructionist government. And I'm

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really fine with that. I'm not. I'm not because

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I'm out on Texas. Let's let him go.

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You're not looking at this right. So let's say... It's not even our

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land. Give him back to Mexico. Let's say that the entire

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all the states become dissolved in terms of the federal government.

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It's every state for themselves. What you would end up with if you

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were trying to reconstitute a government you would have most of that middle

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that doesn't vote with progressive values.

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Let's say. You'd end up with a giant

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chunk in the middle that becomes a white Christian

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ethno-state. And then you would have the fuckin' Pacific

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Coast which would be there as a sliver and you'd have New England.

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And that's about it. That's not good.

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But everybody lives in those places.

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No of course it's not good Dan. It's fucking stupid.

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I would say that he understands that. Yeah. Well you would. No he doesn't understand that.

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Yes he does. He does not understand that at all. He absolutely does.

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He absolutely does. He does not have the capability

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to extrapolate consequences to his bullshit.

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No. No no no. I think on some... I mean at best

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you're right when he knows that Texas won't come back.

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That he knows that... I think he knows that a lot of the country won't come back.

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But he has the idea that a huge swath

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of the country, which it would be even weirder because Chicago

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would be with the coasts and then it'd be garbage everywhere else.

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I think he knows that Texas in particular and a lot of other states

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that probably border Texas that could create a confederacy with Texas. Florida,

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Oklahoma, Arizona. I think he knows that those places

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would have the votes needed to create

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a dystopic state where women and minorities

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have a really fucking tough time. Right. Look, here's the situation.

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Alex is in favor of secession. He's in favor...

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I believe that he understands the endgame that he's advocating for.

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You disagree. We can agree to disagree on that. Okay. And we'll see if we can

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get any clues in the near future about this. Okay.

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I stand firm in my position that I think he understands that should

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the union dissolve, some of these states, perhaps

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the one that he lives in, would be able to create the kind of version

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of the United States that could never possibly exist as long as

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progressive people are involved. Right. But then they would be

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economically destroyed. Right. And that's sort of the compromise that

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makes the United States work. Yeah, doesn't it? It's kind of

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the big deal. So you got your... we're recording this on Sunday.

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This is your last night at Zany's. Congratulations on making it through the month.

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Oh god, it's been a long one. I will give you one last gift. Yes, sir.

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For your term here of this month.

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And that will be... I'm gonna go ahead and cut

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all of the clips where Alex Jones breaks down

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a music video by Three Doors Down. God damn it! What?!

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What?! I fucked around at the first hour and my punishment

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is I don't get to hear the deconstruction of a Three Doors Down video?

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Yeah. God damn it, Dan! This is the worst thing that

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I've ever done to myself. The song is called Citizen Soldier.

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Never heard it. Thank god. Well, it was actually a jingoistic

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propaganda tool of the National Guard. That sounds right for Three Doors Down.

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It does. It's a song about how people are citizens and soldiers. Alex is

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really mad about it. I will say, sure.

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It's propaganda, for sure. But at the same time, it came out in 2007.

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Originally. At the height

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of Three Doors Down's popularity. I think everybody knows

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that 2007 was owned by Three Doors Down. And then re-released

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in 2008. At the end of 2008. And now we're in February

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2009. So like, I don't know why you're so mad about this. This is old

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news. It's like a year and a half old song. Three or four

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months old in the re-release. Anyway, we'll cut all that out.

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Alex spends the last hour or so of his show

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really, really pissed off about the Super Bowl commercials.

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Cause the Super Bowl just happened. God damn it. And so one of the big commercials was

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I love this 2009 bullshit. It's great. It's so much better than reality.

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So one of the big commercials was Hulu. Had that commercial with Alec Baldwin.

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Where they're like, Hulu is sucking people's brains out. Remember that?

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No! It was a big commercial. No! Why would I remember?

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There were aliens and they were sucking out your brain because you were watching too much Hulu.

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But it was based on the idea that Alec Baldwin

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has a nefarious voice. And then also, I believe

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if I recall correctly, the aliens were the aliens from The Simpsons.

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It was like The Simpsons were on Hulu. It was sort of a

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tie-in. Alex was like, they're trying to discredit David Icke. That sounds right.

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That is the underlying, look, Alex, never make

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the subtext text. Come on, man. So that, I'm like, we don't need to listen to that.

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That's just crazy. This we do need to listen to. Alex is

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super mad about a commercial for

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high fructose corn syrup. At the time, in 2009,

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I remember these commercials. There were commercials that were like, hey, I heard

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high fructose corn syrup is like poison. And then someone was like, it's

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not as bad as you think.

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And that's the commercial.

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The commercial is, it's not that bad. It's not that bad.

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It's not like, hey, I heard the pipeline

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is going to destroy the Native Americans homeland. Look, it's only leaked five

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times. It's not that bad. It's real bad, but it's not that bad.

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What is it, the Juan Valdez? Come on, man. Get out of here.

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The commercial is not saying the corn syrup is good. It's just saying, hey,

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temper it. Hey, not going to kill you. Step it back.

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You eat chips. Those are probably as bad. Calm down. It's basically

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calm down. So here's Alex's fucking take on the

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commercial. It's some of the best analysis I've ever heard in my life.

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Okay, so there's ad after ad after ad after ad after ad

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after ad after ad all over TV, the Super Bowl. That's the one

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I've seen on the Super Bowl. And it's the same thing. That corn syrup,

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I heard that's not good. Oh, really? You heard it's not good? What's your facts?

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And always, he's the guy wanting the girl. Have you seen

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the ads where they hold up a beer and it's a hot chick?

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Real quick, I saw a couple of these, I know for a fact that a couple of these corn syrup commercials

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were just women. No dudes involved at all. But be that as it may.

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And you're really wanting her, but the association is the courage

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or the might or the Budweiser or whatever with a woman.

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Basic psychology, basic advertising 101. Well, here it's the good looking

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girl, beautiful day, the popsicles in a sunny day, under

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the shade, perfect, giggling background noises because it's primitive.

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You know, creatures, we like the sound of giggling children, happy people.

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And there's a sound of rustling wind. You know, that was a

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target man who won a mate. And associating at the primitive level

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you will get the mate. And the red lollipop

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symbolizes sex. The red popsicle, red

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is a symbol of sex. Folks, I took advertising. This is psych warfare.

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Okay. You took advertising. He took advertising.

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He took advertising. Don't you remember when he took advertising?

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When? When you got sent to a farm for your last year in high school because you fought too much?

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Or was it at junior college before you dropped out?

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Trust me, the red popsicle is sex. I took advertising. It's psych warfare.

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That's too bad because he could have had a field day.

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Do you remember that commercial with Britney Spears and Bob Dole where the

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fireworks went up? Was it Pepsi? Yeah, yeah. Bob Dole was looking and then

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Britney Spears starts dancing and then the fireworks go off and you're like, that's a man coming.

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I got it. Hold on. This isn't done. He has more analysis. Okay.

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And they're sitting there with it. So it's a tasty looking popsicle

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that symbolizes sex in the Freudian school. There's several other schools in there.

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There's the giggling children, the happiness. This is a Garden of Eden

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and in the middle of the Garden of Eden is this fruit growing, this red fruit. It is the red popsicle.

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And then at the intellectual level, he's an idiot.

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He shot his mouth off but she showed him the woman. Now for the woman, she sees this

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and the girl's giggling up above him like the goddess.

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I just covered how it affects the man, the psych warfare on his angle.

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For the woman, she's up above him in the garden. She's

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happy, the sound of giggling children. She has the popsicle. It's the center of everything

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and she shows that she's more knowledgeable and lovingly giggles

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at the fool. Now there's other layers to this. What?

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I just covered it. There are other layers? This is what they're

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doing everywhere. What other layers are

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there, Dan? I want to stress he doesn't say. I also want to

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stress that's the end of the analysis. Popsicle. That's a two minute

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clip. That's a two minute clip, bro, and that's it.

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Popsicle? That's crazy. Sex. Sex. Also fruit. Red.

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The woman. Red is the color of sex. She's slightly higher with giggles.

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Nailed it. Children running around, leaves rustling. Everybody

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likes that. Psychology, everybody likes it. Everyone. It's the Garden of

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Eden. Now, there are a lot of other layers to that. Right. You know, like

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the popsicle stick? That's got a joke on there. Everybody likes jokes.

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So when you're licking the popsicle stick thinking about your own dick

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then you think about jokes and jokes are funny and everybody likes those. And there are

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kids around. There are always kids around in Alex Jones' story. There are

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always kids around. There's always a metaphor for sex and there are also

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always kids around. There's always kids around, Dan. Humor

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is sex. I took advertising.

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It's psych warfare. I mean, like, look

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the thing that's really fun about this is like, yes

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Alex is making a decent point in that like... Kinda. Well, no, no, the beer commercial

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analogy that he's making. It's like, hey, you know, they're trying to

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couple the idea of like, hey, I got this cool, nice, awesome beer. It'll get me

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chicks. That is like a very basic piece of advertising.

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Beer has been doing it for a long time. Right, right. We're on like 60 years of beer

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selling like that. But it's like taking that

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like school of analysis and going the exact wrong direction

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with it. Like trying to apply that to like, oh yeah, the corn syrup

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people are trying to make you a warning.

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Here's what I think. I've seen these commercials. They are not at all

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like... If Alex Jones murdered somebody and they were like,

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we gotta find out if he's fit to stand trial. And we played that for a

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psychiatrist. They'd be like, I don't think

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so. I think his IQ is way too low. Here's what I would do.

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Alex Jones is, he's probably killed somebody. I would trick

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him into thinking that he is innocent and he's like the fugitive.

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Okay, alright. He's looking for the one armed man. Right, right. And he has to

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then describe how the person was killed. But I would have a lineup.

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I would have a lineup and it would be all humans and Mr. Peanut.

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And that would be my test to see

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if this guy is crazy. It would just be a drawing of Mr. Peanut

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and four humans. I guarantee he's choosing Mr. Peanut.

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It was probably Mr. Peanut though. I'm not gonna lie to you. That's how I would

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prove he's crazy. I don't know why I thought of that. I don't know where

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that came from either, but I love it. Anyway, so Jordan, you

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gotta get out of here. You got your show. But something that does not need

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to get out of here is our website. Nicely done. Great transition. Knowledgefight.com

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You can follow us on Twitter. Sorry this episode's been a bit rushed.

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It's a fault all around. It's my fault. It's your fault. It's

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Zany's fault. It's also Don DeGrande Prix's fault. God dammit, DGGP.

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It's probably mostly his fault. Um, yeah. Twitter at Knowledge Underscore

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Fight. We're on Facebook. We are on Facebook. You can find us on iTunes.

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June 15th.

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Austin. Yes. Beerland. 10pm. Oh, we got seats too

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apparently. We do have seats now. Fuck yeah. Some seats are gonna be brought.

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Absolutely. So it won't be standing up watching a podcast. And then

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it is actually my turn tonight. It is. And for

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cutting this episode short, Jordan, go fuck yourself. I don't think

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you get to do that. I think I do. I'm gonna, the president can

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pardon himself.

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I was actually scrolling through the rest of this like trying to find somebody and it's like

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we've made, we've said Don DeGrande Prix too many times. Yeah. Who else are we gonna say? Jimmy Carter?

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Alright, you can tell yourself to fuck off. Yeah, thank you. Andy in Kansas. You're

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on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex. I'm a first time

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caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.