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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we do, Dan.
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Mm-hmm.
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Dan.
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Yeah.
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Dan.
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What's up, sir?
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It's been a while since I've been here.
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Yeah, big thank you to Marty DeRosa for sitting in.
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For sure.
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Absolutely fantastic.
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It's a delightful time.
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Absolutely fantastic.
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Yeah, good times.
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But Dan, it has been so long since I've been here.
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Yes.
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That I don't even remember what the hell our show is about.
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So could you refresh my memory on what it is you're doing?
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So I, about a year and a half ago, decided I'm going to learn everything there is to learn about Alex Jones.
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Right, because you're sane.
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You decided to live a normal life.
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And at this point, you know very little about Alex Jones, or retain very little of the information.
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Yeah, I heard Marty's very direct criticism.
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How dare you, sir?
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He would argue that's not criticism, and I defend that assertion.
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But yeah, I know a lot about him.
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You don't know much about him.
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Nope.
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There's our fun.
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Also today, doing a, I want to give a special thank you to you for still making it over here after shows and working all day.
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You're going the extra mile, and I really appreciate it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think I'm about to lose my mind.
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I think I'm on three hours sleep.
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Yeah.
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I've worked about 15 hours straight now.
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Just got off stage.
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Just got off stage.
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Just got off stage, and now I'm here.
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So here we go.
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Frankly, I might have just got off stage.
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I did not remember getting here.
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This could be a fever dream.
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This was a long ways away, and I don't remember how long it took.
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So before we get into this, today we're going to be going over, what is this, January 21st of 2009.
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All right.
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One day into Barack Hussein Obama's presidency.
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Not gonna lie, that feels present.
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One day.
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All right, all right.
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Keep that in mind.
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So he gave him a chance, as we know.
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Yes.
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If we look back on what he said in the present and compare it with what he did now,
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he obviously really believed that Obama could bring some hope and change.
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We all got caught up in the fervor.
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He didn't want to be cynical.
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We all got caught up in the fervor.
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So Alex, I'm assuming, says, here is what we hope Obama fixes,
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and here is what we think Obama should do to fix these problems.
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Let's have reasonable expectations.
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Exactly.
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Just like he would ask of people on Trump's inauguration day, be reasonable.
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Let's push our hands across the aisle for a big, hearty handshake and hope for the future.
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We will see what he says, but something that gives me hope for the future is our...
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Yes!
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Wonderful transition, Dan.
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Thank you.
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A couple of our new donors.
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I'd like to give a shout out.
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What's going on out there, Jonathan M.?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you very much, Jonathan.
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Thank you for becoming a policy wonk.
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Also, thank you very much for not being Jonathan Franzen.
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He's a shit writer.
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I hate him.
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I hate him.
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He's bringing out a weird mood in you.
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I'm furious at Jonathan Franzen for some reason.
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As tired as you are, I'm fairly tired too,
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and I can't pull up my mental Rolodex of what I think about Jonathan Franzen.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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I'm gonna have to get back to you on the next episode.
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It's not hard.
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Something I am sure of is how much I appreciate.
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Nicely done.
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That's two for two, Dan.
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Autopilot.
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Thank you so much to our new donor, Sam.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Oh, shit.
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That one cut off already.
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Thank you very much, Sam.
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Thank you very much.
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We appreciate it.
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Also, one more thank you so much to Evan.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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You all are now policy wonks.
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Thank you very much.
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If you would like to become a policy wonk yourself out there,
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you can do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com.
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Click the support to show button.
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That really helps out.
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It makes this doable.
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We appreciate it.
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Also, I did get some messages.
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Buttons are sent.
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They're being sent out.
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I've not given you the addresses.
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Hold on one second.
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I have had eight different goddamn buttons returned.
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What?
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I just got one.
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I've had so many buttons returned.
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I have not heard about this.
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One of them I sent two months ago,
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and it showed up in my mail last week.
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I'm trying to send you buttons.
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Now, granted, not doing a good job at it very clearly.
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That's not on you.
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That's on the postal service.
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The band.
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I kind of feel like it's not.
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It might just be my shitty handwriting.
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It could be your shitty handwriting.
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Also, I think one of them at least was probably sent overseas,
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and we don't know how to send things overseas.
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No, we don't.
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I think if you got one I sent you from overseas,
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then that was a heroic effort on my part.
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If you requested a button a couple months ago and didn't get one,
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or you just want one,
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you can send us a message at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
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And we'll do our best.
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Please do.
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I swear to you, I have put every button.
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I believe you.
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Taped the shit out of an envelope.
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After the first attempt, yes.
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Yeah, the first attempt did not go well.
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We gotta, you know, you live and learn.
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Yeah, so I have done every single one of them,
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and I've had a shit ton returned.
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So if you requested a button and you did not get one,
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please just remind me and I will send them out to you again.
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And also, we'll have tons of buttons in Austin
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when we are down there for our live show,
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June 15th at Beerland.
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Nice plug.
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Plenty of buttons.
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We're just gonna throw them at the crowd like it's a...
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Let me tell you something.
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Seats going fast.
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Totally.
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Don't think they have seats.
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Think it might be a standing room only situation.
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But you know what?
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Could be.
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If it is, that might be trouble.
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A two hour long podcast about Alex Jones, standing room only.
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Ooh, that might be weird.
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Yeah, we can't do that.
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I'm excited for this.
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Let's buy some chairs.
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Oh man.
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Yeah, we'll see what happens.
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Let's buy some chairs?
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I don't know.
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We're gonna need a lot more policy walks to buy chairs.
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Imagine a situation where people are watching a podcast standing up.
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That's gotta be so...
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I don't know.
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It's like the Comedians of Comedy tour, man.
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Patton Oswalt, Maria Bamford.
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They were...
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We are neither of them.
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Right.
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That's true.
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And our show would be us sitting down talking about Alex Jones.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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We would have to stand up the whole show.
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I'm like, I don't want to do that.
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We should have this off air.
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Yeah, probably.
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Something else that should have been off air is Alex Jones making this admission,
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which is our out of context drop for today.
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Okay.
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Well, I have to say this.
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I've done cocaine twice.
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When I was like 15, 16, I'd be at a party or something, and somebody'd say,
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you know, there's some cocaine in this joint or in this cigarette,
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and you'd smoke some of it.
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It would just make me feel like a dirty coffee high.
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Alex.
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Alex.
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Alex.
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Oh, so one of these kids was offering me drugs.
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They were offering me...
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I took heroin, and then later on, I smoked a joint.
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And I'll tell you right now, this joint, that's out of control.
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These kids with their drugs these days.
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I would...
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I'm definitely not an off duty writer for a...
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21 Jump Street.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I want to say, first of all, Alex Jones seems to do every drug twice.
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He seems to every single time he brings one up, he's like, I've done it twice.
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Well, yeah, but you don't know for the first time.
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That's true.
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And frankly, I think two isn't even enough.
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Two isn't even enough. You need three to develop a pattern.
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That's called the scientific method, Dan.
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Even when doing drugs, Alex doesn't believe in science.
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Smoking cocaine in a joint won't do anything to you.
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It's a bad idea.
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If you inhale...
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If you breathe some of the cocaine into your mouth, it'll make your mouth numb.
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I don't remember exactly what it is,
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but the point at which it would be combustible or boilable,
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you're not going to get it with a cherry on a joint.
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It doesn't do anything.
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He was smoking crack.
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There's a reason crack pipes get really, really hot.
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And why you have to cook the cocaine into crack to change that boiling point.
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Who's putting cocaine...
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Also, what, what, what?
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This is like 25 years ago.
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Maybe children.
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That's possible.
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It's 15-year-olds.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And maybe they're, you know, like, sprinkle some cocaine in here.
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And I'm going out on a limb.
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If the story is true, which it probably isn't.
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Probably not.
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If it is true, Alex, they were fucking with you.
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It could be.
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There's no way.
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That's a waste of good coke.
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So anyway, let's jump into this, George.
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Or if you're 15 or 16, probably bad coke at the time.
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I would assume so, especially in like the 70s.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, 80s?
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80s.
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Anyway, back to the main matter at hand.
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That is, Barack Obama is now the president of the United States.
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Smoking, smoking coke.
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For one day, here's where Alex Jones's fucking stupid head is at.
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Again, not giving him a chance.
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Barack Obama, the one-term senator, who supposedly will save us.
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But then they don't tell the public while they're promising,
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we will save you.
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We will give you jobs.
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We will help you.
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Meanwhile, over a trillion dollars a week is being stolen by a criminal syndicate of
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offshore banks.
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And they told Congress that they are under martial law under the War Powers Act, and
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that's in mainstream news.
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And the public just dances and, you know, the kids are buying all the comic books with
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Obama on the cover as the hero with Superman and Spidey.
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And the people are smiling and feeling good.
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Spidey.
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Spidey.
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You know, Superman, Spidey.
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He's very familiar.
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Well, he is your friendly neighborhood, Spider-Man.
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That's a fair point.
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How do you, what do you, look, Mr. Spider-Man was my dad.
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All right.
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So Congress was not told that they are under martial law based on the War Powers Act.
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Right.
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Dan, let me ask you a question.
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What's the GDP of the United States?
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Lot.
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Like per year?
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A lot.
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What do you say like the budget is?
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A lot.
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Yeah.
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Is it $52 trillion?
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No.
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Such that $1 trillion a week could be stolen?
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Probably not.
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Also, Alex says this, like, I don't know, I don't remember what, if it's in the present
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or in the past, but I can't refine the clip, but he's talking about how, like, there are
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globalists who are making $20 billion an hour.
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It's a lot.
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To me.
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I just think like, I don't know.
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I don't know how that's possible.
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Like business days or just like average.
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They work.
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It's like standups.
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You know, you make a ton an hour, but you only work 15 minutes.
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Exactly, exactly.
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It could be that sort of thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know.
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I mean, you, you say if you're a, if you're a billionaire making billions an hour, you're
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probably not going to work the full 40 hours a week.
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No, that'd be foolish.
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Yeah.
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Put in 25.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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You don't get benefits then.
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Ah, that's trouble.
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Also, the War Powers Act is sort of just a colloquial name for the War Powers Resolution
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that was passed in 1973.
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It has nothing to do with telling Congress that you're under martial law, which we weren't.
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Also, what?
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Wait, you can just tell Congress specifically?
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Well, I think that Congress is under martial law?
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I think he's saying that Barack Obama, obviously.
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Hussein.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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He told Congress that the United States is under martial law.
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The only reason he's saying that is because the War Powers Act was made after Vietnam,
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because they wanted to try and clarify what the roles of Congress and the President are
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in terms of like deploying people and shit like that.
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And I read over it, and most of it has to do with like just strict guidelines about
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if you send people, you have to tell Congress.
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Yeah.
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So he's just operating off of that and just making shit up.
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Yeah.
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Well, because as we know, we weren't under martial law.
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No, no.
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That didn't happen.
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No.
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And also, I'm fairly certain, no matter how...
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In America, I don't think any sitting president could ever just raise his hand and just be
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like, martial law, done, martial law, I call martial law.
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Under Alex's conception...
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I'm not it, you're it, martial law.
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Under Alex's idea, it's not the president that's doing it.
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It's this 100-year-long plan of this cabal, and what have you.
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So he's just bringing it to fruition.
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He's telling Congress what they already knew.
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Right, right, right.
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Because he's the Antichrist.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So that's a bunch of nonsense, but it should illustrate that like,
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Alex, the next day already just, I'm gonna piss on Obama.
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Oh, yeah.
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I hate this guy.
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Fuck this guy.
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The worst, the worst.
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Not even a day.
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Look at him.
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Come on.
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For some reason, when I look at him, I think bad president.
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I don't know why.
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It's when, I mean, it's just when I look at him, my first thought is bad president.
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I don't see any possible reason for that other than a gut feeling.
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Now flash forward to 2016.
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I've heard people say he smells like sulfur.
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At least the narrative progressed slightly.
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I will give him credit for that.
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So Jordan, generally when we like to have a good time on this show,
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we end up seeing Alex Jones singing along to the highway map.
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Loving it.
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We also saw East Bounded Down on the last one.
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Great song to sing along to.
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Gets everybody going.
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I have to make a public admission.
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None of these songs are Alex Jones' favorite song.
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Oh, Alex Jones has a favorite song.
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I'm pretty clear that this next song is Alex Jones' literal favorite song back then.
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Okay.
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Because he plays it on almost every show and gets really sentimental,
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but he doesn't always sing along.
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Okay.
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However, on the January 21st episode, he decides to sing along.
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So I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
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Interesting.
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What cut of theirs?
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You know, there's a lot of...
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I'm gonna go with Maps.
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He seems like a very kind of basic...
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He likes...
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He doesn't like the deep cuts.
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He likes the singles.
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I'm gonna go with Maps.
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Did that come out by this point?
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It came out in 2001.
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Oh yeah.
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It came out on 9-11, actually.
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Happy 9-11.
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Happy 9-11.
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Do you...
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Wait.
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Take it away with that melody.
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Can't sing it legally.
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No, it is actually a song called Grave Digger by Willie Nelson.
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Okay.
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It came out on Willie Nelson's 2008 album, Moment of Forever,
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and was forgotten by literally everyone except Alex Jones.
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I think I remember how that song is.
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It's like, I ain't saying she's a grave digger, but she ain't...
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It's not that one.
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No, it's not that one?
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Nope, but here it is.
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Cyrus Jones.
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Cyrus Jones, from 1810 to 1913.
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May these great-grandchildren believe you could live to 103.
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103 is forever when you're just a little kid.
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So, Cyrus Jones live forever.
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Learn your goddamn cure, Alex.
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First of all, fuck you for judging his timing.
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He has terrible timing with singing,
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but he got right into the hey police as soon as that backbeat kicked in.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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He knows what he's doing, man.
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That's good broadcasting.
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Good stuff.
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But it's terrible singing.
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I do agree.
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He does not understand meter and rhythm.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's not too much of a surprise.
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Anyway, let's see what he's saying after that beat kicks in.
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They slowly twisted you to the dark side.
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And now you get to drink from the same cup as the people.
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I know most of you aren't evil, but you're not speaking out against the evil.
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You know, when my writers are writing a story about a woman spilling a glass of,
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her kids spilling a glass of tomato juice and being charged with terrorism,
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L.A. Times, kind of thousands of others.
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Go look at those cases.
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Look at the people's names, men and women.
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I've seen a bunch of reports on airplanes where somebody who's a on airplanes is shocked.
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They won't respond.
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They start babbling.
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They're delirious.
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They land the airplane.
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People come on board.
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They're unresponsive to the cop.
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They taser them.
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And then guess what happens?
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They get charged.
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And in a few of the cases, they've been reasonable after they've already tortured them.
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And there's other cases where they don't.
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Oh, you don't believe me?
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Just Google those terms and you'll pull that up.
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Google diabetic charged with terrorism or.
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Man charged with terrorism for collapsing on plane.
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This is the new system, a predatory government just viciously, savagely not even going after
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people that resist it.
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They go after us as well.
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What, but going after completely innocent, mainline dumbo sheep.
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That's not nice because they've got camps to fill.
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They've got prisons to fill.
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It's a business.
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Fucking Alex Jones understood against the for-profit prison industry.
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Alex Jones understood that prisons were a business and they were being filled.
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But I mean, we could look at the statistics and find that it's mostly being filled by
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black people, which is a coincidence.
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Maybe Alex doesn't want to talk about that piece, but you'd rather talk about how black
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people have higher rates of abortion and he's a hero for being against that.
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I believe, I believe if I recall correctly from what he just said, they're even coming
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after us.
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Well, I mean, in that case.
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Which I understand what he's, I understand what he's saying in the context here, but
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I also kind of hear it.
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There's plenty of time for the racial stuff later.
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Don't worry about that.
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Don't jump the gun.
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That I think is just those who would resist.
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I think that's what he's saying in his, in his head, right?
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Because he is so black people, perhaps what he's saying though, dude, is really troubling.
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You know, that he's fully aware in 2009 that prisons are a business and they're being run
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like a business and you going to prison makes them money.
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Yeah.
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Now.
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Oh, and also they can profit off of your labor.
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It's crazy, crazy, weird how you can pay a prisoner a dollar an hour.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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Uh huh.
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Oh, it's almost like they have a financial incentive.
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So this story that he's talking about, he brings up like maybe 10 times throughout the
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rest of the show is like, this person spilled tomato juice and they're charged with terrorism.
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Yeah.
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What was up with that?
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Was it like a V8?
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Yeah, probably.
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It was on a plane.
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Cause I'm going to be honest.
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Sounds terroristic to me.
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It was on a plane.
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And so it had to be V8.
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Yep.
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Here's from the LA Times article.
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26 pages redacted.
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All about V8.
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Probably.
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Here's the, from the article in the LA Times that he was citing.
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Tamara Jo Freeman was on a Frontier Airlines flight to Denver in 2007 when her two children
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began to quarrel over window shade and then spilled a Bloody Mary into her lap.
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So it wasn't tomato juice.
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That was booze.
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Could have been a Virgin Bloody Mary.
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Yeah, you're right.
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It could have been.
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She spanked each of them on the thigh with three swats.
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It was a small incident, but one in the heightened anxiety after the September 11th terrorist
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attacks would eventually have enormous ramifications for Freeman and her children.
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A flight attendant confronted Freeman who responded by hurling a few profanities and
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throwing what remained of a can of tomato juice on the floor.
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So then she got arrested.
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And I think it's a little fucked up, but I, I, I understand this trend, but at the same
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time, I mean, it's fucked up, but at the same time, if she wasn't wearing shoes, I'd have
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been totally fine with it.
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Well, like if she had taken her shoes off and they just did it for that, I would have
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been fine with that.
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Like if she, if they, if they were like, look, you can throw your tomato juice as far as
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you want, but I will be God damned if you are going to sit here with open toed socks
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here, man.
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Yeah.
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This is ridiculous.
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Well, um, I mean, even this article in the late time says, uh, some security experts
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say that the use of the law by airlines and their employees has run amok criminalizing
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incidents that did not start out as the threat to public safety, much less an act of terrorism.
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So, I mean, even this article is like, it's already making a more nuanced criticism than
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Alex is.
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So I don't know.
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That's the mainstream media.
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I don't know what point he wants to make here.
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Like there's actual facts in here.
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He just yells about spilled tomato juice.
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Hey, this, this is fucked up.
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And everybody's like, yeah, this is fucked up.
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So where do we go from here, Alex?
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Huh?
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So what are we doing?
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Uh, the, uh, the law and the Patriot act, uh, has given airlines,
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Great act, loved it.
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Second act problems.
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Best act.
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Is, uh, has given airlines new flexibility to clamp down on unruly behavior, but the
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intent of the Patriot act provisions was put, uh, was to put terrorists in violation of
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the law before they could execute an actual takeover.
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Says Nathan Sales, a law professor at George Mason university who helped write the Patriot
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act when he served in the justice department.
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But sales acknowledged that in the fervor to protect the skies, the practical application
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of the law has strayed a woman spanking her child is not as great a threat to aviation
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as members of Al Qaeda with box cutters.
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That much is clear.
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He said, cool.
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Huh, man, I do not like hearing, I do not like hearing George Mason, but I don't like
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it after finding out how much Coke money they're getting.
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But this is more like, I don't know anything about that.
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Oh, they're getting a lot.
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But if you look at this, this is more a story of, uh, sort of, uh, the, the, the, the airlines
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use a misusing discretion that's at their disposal than it is a police state crackdown.
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This is something that the, uh, the airlines can deal with as a small disruption or let's
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get them arrested.
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Right.
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And they're often opting for the latter in order to criminalize that behavior, make their
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job much easier, scare people.
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Now the airlines are already a cartel, so why not give them a unlimited power to police
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themselves?
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That makes perfect sense.
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Sir.
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Yeah, come on.
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So, um, let them act with impunity because as we already know, God damn it, if those
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corporations don't have our best interests in mind, they love us.
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They love us.
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So, um, at this point, Alex, we're going to miss a lot of stuff that's on this episode.
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A lot of like little tiny things that might be interesting but are inconsequential because
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in this episode he launches into like, I would say probably a little over an hour breakdown
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of Barack Obama's inauguration speech that I'm in on.
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It is some in depth analysis.
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Okay, here's the beginning of it.
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Recall that speech.
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It was, it was a very inspiring but also pretty boilerplate speech.
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It was very much like, it was like, Hey, come on guys, let's fucking do this better.
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Well, Alex's take is a little different.
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Okay, here's the beginning of it.
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Okay.
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Um, I've been kind of procrastinating getting into this because it's a monumental job.
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I rewatched his speech last night and again this morning and wrote several pages of notes,
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but so much work.
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Let's just get started here.
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Monumental with Barack Barack Obama with 2 million people in attendance.
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The biggest presidential inaugural ever.
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See now he would argue that now.
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Right.
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He would debate that point now.
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Oh, of course.
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But he needs to make people scared about this.
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Right.
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So it's like, Oh my God, look at all these people.
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Look at, there are so many people there.
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That must mean it's terrifying.
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And they're brainwashed by this cult cult of personality leader.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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It would be even better for him if there were 3 million people there booing.
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Bush as the old new world order puppet is removed.
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The old bird cage liner is removed.
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It's covered with seeds and stuff.
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The bird dropped and bird crap and get ready for 40 more seconds of this metaphor.
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We're still going all of that.
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I thought he already nailed it.
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And instead of focusing on the bird, the new world order that's doing all of this to us,
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we focus on the bird cage liner.
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The media tells you the president is the boss actually runs something.
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Okay.
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When the military national complex has overthrown everything through Northcom and that's owned
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by the private banks and the army war college admits this and the head of the naval war
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college admits it.
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So they are now putting in the fresh bird cage liner and then building up the bird cage
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liner as he's going to fix it.
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He's going to say, just go along with his agenda.
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That is the bird basically tripling the amount of poop it drops on us.
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That metaphor is so labored.
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My God.
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Okay.
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All right.
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This is a very complex inner life for a bird.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has some problems and one of those things is not being specific about anything.
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Right.
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And another is that Google allows you to search within websites.
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What's the naval and army war college?
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Well, here's what's interesting.
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I searched within info wars because they've, they don't have a search on their site anymore.
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Of course not.
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That which is, you don't want to, you don't want to find that.
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It turns out Google just has a function for it though.
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So it's pretty easy.
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It's not hard.
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So I searched for naval war college and pretty much every single article came up referenced
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one guy.
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We'll get to that in a second.
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There were a couple articles that had different people, but it was very sporadic and they
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were completely unrelated.
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I would say 70 to 80% of all of the articles that come up referenced John Schindler as
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the specialist from the navy war college, which I assume is something to do with what
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he's talking about.
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But I couldn't find anything even on info wars about Northcom admitting that they're
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run by the banks and the military industrial complex is ruling the president.
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I couldn't find any of that.
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It's in the white papers.
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Also in my search, uh, I, I, in all of these, do you know who John Schindler is?
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Uh, no, he's an ex, uh, NSA, uh, agent, I believe.
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So you don't want to be on his list or researcher or something like that.
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I'm going to take a point away from me.
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Oh, that's, I just get the pun now.
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Yeah.
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He got fired for like emailing a picture of his dick to somebody, which is bad spy behavior.
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That's not good.
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And then now in the, yeah, if you, if you're a spy and you get found out for that shit,
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you're a bad spy in the aftermath of the 2016 election.
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Also, he was, uh, pretty prominent in the Louise Mensch Twitter sphere.
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Great.
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So he has shown up in that beyond that.
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I don't really know much about him.
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He might have some credentials and it does appear that he used to teach at the Navy war
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college, but I don't think he was ever the head of it.
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And there aren't any articles on Alex's site, even the talk about this, I could, this would
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take days of Googling to try and figure out what are you saying?
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So it would actually be a monumental amount of effort to do that instead of just a Googling
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once and then writing down notes.
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Yeah, I suppose so.
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So then the other thing is that Brent mentions the army war college.
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Yep.
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Every, almost every single article and Alex Jones's fucking site on info wars about the
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army war college is warning about this one white paper and it's sort of as relevant.
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And so I read it, uh, it's called known unknowns, unconventional strategic shocks in defense
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strategy development.
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And it came out right before this episode would have come, it came out and I believe
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in November, 2008.
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And the reason for that is, uh, explained by this quote from the first page, the current
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from the first page, the current defense team confronted a game-changing strategic shock
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in its first eight months in office.
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The next team would be well advised to expect the same.
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You understand what that's saying?
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Yeah.
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When Bush came into office, his defense team within eight months had nine 11 happened,
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which was a game-changing strategic shock.
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Yeah.
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And what they mean by that is not anything nefarious.
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It's just that expect the unexpected.
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More or less.
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Yeah.
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These strategic shocks, it's, let me see, let me see where, okay, here, here, here,
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here's what it's about.
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Uh, the document in no way says that the military industrial complex has taken over the government.
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All it says is that when strategic shocks occur in our history, like nine 11 or Pearl
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Harbor, immediately things get thrown into chaos and all relevant analysis and self-assessment
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have to do with solving the problem that has already occurred as opposed to looking forward
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to what is coming.
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This is because up to this point, uh, and we sort of fall into these lulls repeatedly
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through history.
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Yeah.
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The Department of Defense strategy has been largely reactive in nature and, uh, the people
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who work there fail in their imagination.
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Right.
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Trying to foresee things.
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Right.
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That's what this white paper is about.
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That's a very, that's a very human situation though there, because if you go back and you
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look at, uh, the, uh, the way that, uh, our boom and bust economy always works is whenever
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things go going really good, everybody deregulates everything and allows everything to get going
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really bad again.
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Yeah.
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Like every time people feel comfortable, they're like, yay, this was going to last forever.
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And then we get fucked because nobody is, nobody is capable really of a longterm strategy
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apparently.
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But to be fair, I look at it the same.
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I think I'm guilty of the same thing in terms of this podcast.
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Like it's just keeping up.
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Yeah.
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You know, and if you, if you think about like everything on a, like a, you just scale up,
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you know, slightly.
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Yeah.
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Everybody, even people who are in foreign policy, even people who are working for the
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Defense Department are somewhat just trying to keep up.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's what a lot of us are doing.
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At the same time though, our, our job is literally reactive.
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Like that's all we are capable.
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We can't plan Alex's narratives in advance and think away.
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Yeah.
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That's actually probably do a better job.
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I think we already kind of do.
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Yeah.
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I think we've already given him a lot of good advice over the years.
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So maybe we are better at this.
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We are your best advisors, Alex.
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You dick.
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So the only part I think that Alex paid attention to in the entire paper, and it's not very
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long, it's only like eight pages or so, maybe a little more than that.
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Maybe like 30.
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I can't remember.
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I read, I read a bunch of different things and they were varying lengths.
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I can't remember which is which, quite frankly.
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But the only thing I think he paid attention to in this is about a possible domestic emergency.
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Yeah.
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And I quote.
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Oh, we're going to need some war powers there.
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As a community, the defense establishment swears to protect and defend the constitution
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against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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The Department of Defense's role in combating domestic enemies has never been thoughtfully
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examined.
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Thus, there is perhaps no greater source of strategic shock for the Defense Department
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than operationalizing that component of the oath of service in a widespread domestic emergency
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that entails rapid dissolution of public order or in all or significant parts of the United
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States.
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They describe this as likely not an immediate prospect.
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The paper doesn't say anything prescriptive.
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It's not saying anyone should do X, Y, or Z.
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Literally, all it's saying is that the situation would be an immense challenge for the Defense
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Department.
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And so maybe put a little bit of thought into it, assholes.
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It's an example of something unlikely but catastrophic that could happen because there
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isn't a plan in place.
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There's no idea of what to do.
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And so it goes through like, here is one problem that would pop up.
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You know, having to get National Guards into states where the governors have control of
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whether or not they operate within the state.
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That's an issue that would pop up and the government would be at the behest of the state.
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It's not saying they shouldn't be.
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It's just describing a problem.
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Right.
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Not even a problem.
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It's describing a challenge.
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Well, I mean, you consider the possibility that Trump is rightfully impeached and removed
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from office and hopefully beheaded in front of everybody.
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And then you have the possibility of a white nationalist separatist movement growing up.
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And then you think about the white nationalists.
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But he stays in.
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It'll be the same problem.
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Well, but the thing is, if they start to get militarized, you have a white nationalist
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militarized government.
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I have bad news.
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No, I mean, they're already militarized.
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I mean, in a like a literal domestic terrorism kind of way.
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Worse than they are now.
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Right.
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But you have...
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Have you ever checked out Hate Watch?
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Yeah, I can't.
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Yeah.
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But you have white supremacist nationalist governors of states.
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Wait, we already kind of...
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That's what I'm saying.
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We have at least that Stephen King guy.
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Oh, yeah.
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He's super white nationalist.
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Now, half of those fuckers are white nationalists underneath them.
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Whatever nightmare scenario...
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Like, Rick Scott should be...
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He's a white nationalist.
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Whatever nightmare scenario you're describing right now, we're already in the twilight phase
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of falling asleep into it.
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Exactly.
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Even though we should be jolting awake and fighting for the lives and decency.
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As I've always said, the only reason to have a professional military is to make sure we
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protect our borders from Florida.
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That's really...
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I want Florida isolated.
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Coordinate off.
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Absolutely, yeah.
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Also, this is super important.
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This is at the top of the white paper.
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It says, quote, the views expressed in this report are those of the author and do not
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necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, the
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Department of Defense, or the US government.
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Just a guy writing out some ideas.
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It's like a fucking term paper.
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All resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.
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And then Dick Wolf.
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Right, exactly.
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I mean, like, what you're dealing with here is Alex.
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I mean, again, if he'd speak in specifics, I could do a better job.
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But all I can go on is context clues and everything he's ever published on his website.
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Now, if he wants to post an article, how Northcom has admitted that they're owned by banks.
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And, you know, who cares?
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Anyway, we got to get to this next clip.
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This is where it gets a little bit racial.
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OK, OK.
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Already.
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It's going to happen.
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I told you it was going to heat up pretty quick.
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OK.
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They slide it in.
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But Obama has told us what the bird, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, the Rothschilds.
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No Soros.
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Bingo.
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No Soros.
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Sitting above the bird, Katie's going to do it.
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And it isn't pretty.
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So let's look at what's in this bird's belly.
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What is happening?
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Right now, ladies and gentlemen, let's look at the innards.
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Let's look at the guts of this situation right now from a Barack Obama.
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And I will be playing this and stopping it throughout for the rest of the hour and commenting.
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Here we go.
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My fellow citizens.
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I stand here today.
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Humbled by the task before us.
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Grateful for the trust you've bestowed.
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Mindful of the sacrifices borne by our ancestors.
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All right, stop there.
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OK.
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Mindful of your sacrifices.
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We're sacrificing.
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We're together.
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We're one group.
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I care about you.
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And it's a double meaning to specifically the black folks, the suffering of our ancestors.
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But to the general public, it looks like it's an inclusive comment.
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So he's dividing and saying this is a black thing.
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Meanwhile, he increases the abortions for black babies.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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He did that on his birthday.
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A public announcement that he is bringing unification.
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Just everything is deception.
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Yikes.
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Hey, why can't it be both?
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I mean, why can't it be a tip of the hat to black people's past in this country and also
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be a message of unification?
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Why can't it be?
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I'm pretty sure.
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Because it can be.
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It is.
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I mean, even if it was purely a tip of the cap, too, which is definitely not the connotation
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colloquialism that I would appreciate.
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But if it is just that, that should be a unifying concept.
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If we are all capable of recognizing that sacrifice, I'll be goddamned if we aren't
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way more unified as a country.
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Perhaps the thing that is most divisive is the fact that so many white people don't understand
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that this country was built on the backs of black people's sacrifices.
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I agree with that.
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But the sacrifice, I don't even think, was in the phrase where Alex thinks he's hearkening
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back.
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No, I'm just purely engaging with how stupid Alex is on this front.
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Boy, remember all the times we've seen him pick apart CNN clips and stuff like that?
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Good news.
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He was the same guy in 2009.
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He still had that inability to deal with more than like...
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Two seconds at a time.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So you're going to...
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I mean, look, we...
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Now, hold on, I'm going to stop.
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We're going to have to start this over.
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He does that a bunch.
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Of course, of course he does.
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Yeah.
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So here's the next quote.
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Of the sacrifices borne by our ancestors.
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I thank President Bush for his service to our nation.
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I don't.
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I'd like to apologize.
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I think I guess you are right.
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It was the sacrifice of our ancestors.
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I had the order of terms wrong.
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My bad.
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I thank President Bush for his service.
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So after saying how horrible Bush is, how criminal, how bad, suddenly, oh, he's so great.
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He's given us a great transition.
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He's worked so hard.
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And you've got all these Republican leaders and Pat Robertson loving him and saying, I'm
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surprised I like him.
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He's going to attack all these countries.
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You got to get behind him.
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Yeah, Pat Robertson said that.
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America, it's inevitable.
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So again, unifying everybody.
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They're kind of going past the left-right paradigm right now into just, we're going
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into a depression, which his boss has engineered.
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But they're not saying that.
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I will save you if you just do what I say.
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The craziest thing he said there is that Pat Robertson is being like socialism.
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Bring it on.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Notorious Christian right fascist racist.
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Pat Robertson is like, well, now that it's in the form of this guy, clearly socialism
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is the best way to go.
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Oh, yeah.
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I remember Pat Robertson being very supportive of Obama.
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Also, I don't remember that.
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I mean, it's really great how Alex respects the peaceful transition of power.
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Absolutely.
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I love it.
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But I think that Robertson might have given him a day.
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That might be what Alex is responding to.
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That Pat Robertson just didn't say bad shit about him.
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Just as like a...
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He gave it a day.
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Yeah, as like a decorum.
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A courtesy.
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But I mean, Alex still isn't saying like, let's get him or anything like that.
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At least he's not saying that.
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At least he's made peace with the fact that he's president.
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Right.
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You know, there is something to be said for that.
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Right.
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And that's a low bar.
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But Alex has cleared it.
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He's at least not saying like he cheated or anything like that.
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He does introduce a narrative where Obama said...
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Well, he didn't even know that three million illegal immigrants voted in that election.
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Totally.
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That didn't come out until Trump.
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And that one guy tweeted.
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Good source.
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Yeah.
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Um, but he does try and like spin a narrative about Barack Obama said the wrong words during
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the pledge.
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Of allegiance?
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No, with the oath of office.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, then that means he's not president, Dan.
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That means he's not president.
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That's one of his callers.
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Loophole!
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That's one of his callers tried to do that.
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But if you...
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I love the idea that there's like a fairytale loophole.
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If you listen to it, what he's supposed to do is repeat after John Roberts, the chief justice,
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and John Roberts flubs it.
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Right.
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And so he's just repeating what John Roberts says.
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Right.
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And then they re-administered the oath afterwards.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Because it's this dumb formality thing that we...
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I just love the idea that you can...
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Like, it's just like a fairytale where it's like, oh, you didn't get it in by midnight,
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so you're not president.
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We gotta redo it.
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The whole thing over.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just like there's these tiny little loopholes that are...
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Oh, my name's in capital letters.
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Doesn't count.
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Right.
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Like, sure.
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Maritime law.
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Whatever.
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You fucking idiot.
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Yeah.
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But I don't think...
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I don't know if he'll bring that narrative back up in days to come.
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But at least at this point...
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Great song.
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The Novo.
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At this time, he doesn't seem like he's too into pushing that narrative.
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So at least he's like...
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This seems thin.
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I'm not gonna dive in on this.
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Compared to the other stuff he dives into, I'm shocked that he doesn't do that.
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But another thing that's really fun is that Alex can't fucking time his show in 2009.
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So he's trying to do this big breakdown of Obama.
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He just keeps getting caught by breaks.
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He's trying to jump in, and he has to go to break.
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As well as the generosity and cooperation he has shown throughout this transition.
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44 Americans have now taken the presidential oath.
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The words have been spoken during rising tides of prosperity and the still waters of peace.
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All right.
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Now he's calling upon history and ancestry.
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I swore I thought it was dirty.
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American tradition.
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When in reality, he's gonna destroy fully what's left of the American tradition.
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Yep.
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So that's pretty strong.
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Yep.
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Jumped right into it.
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Going out to break.
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He's now hearkening back to history, and he's gonna destroy it all.
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44 men have now taken this oath of office.
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37 of which were giant piles of shit.
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At least.
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Three others were miserable piles of shit.
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And then Jimmy Carter wasn't a good president, but he's the best man.
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I'm actually kind of glad Marty was here for the...
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It wasn't even really a discussion, but it fucking would have been
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if you were here about how Andrew Jackson was on Confederate money.
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It would have turned into a 15 minute.
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Of course he was!
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Well, he's part of the fucking reason that the...
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Okay, never mind.
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Never mind.
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So he saw the fucking civil war coming, Dan, and he did everything he could to stop it.
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Not according to lore.
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Not according to lore.
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Tried to get it to happen.
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All right.
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All right.
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Fine.
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So he goes to break.
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Fine, that fucking... Alex goes to break and he comes back and we get back into this analysis.
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And boy, this is good analysis.
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Let's go ahead and go back to Barack Obama as I analyze his speech.
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Generous.
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Generous.
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Every so often, the oath is taken amidst gathering clouds and raging storms.
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At these moments, America has carried on not simply
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because of the skill or vision of those in high office,
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but because we, the people, have remained faithful to the ideals of our forebears.
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All right, let's stop right there.
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This is classic.
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And true to our...
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This is classic.
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He's saying,
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44 presidents, the honor, the history, everything we've been through, the good times, the bad,
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but we have gathering clouds.
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I need you to help me.
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Again, that classic call to people.
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This is a wholesome good thing if you didn't know the evil agenda and the incredible betrayal.
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I need your help.
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I need you to join my core separate from government with USAservice.org,
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private under their control, with governmental packaging,
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with a separate governmental army under government control,
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a one million man forced their building.
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So Obama's building multiple armies.
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One million man force on his spare time.
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Right.
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That's outside of government.
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That's off the clock.
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And then with the service.org,
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where people just log community service hours they did in order to make everyone feel good.
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That's another army he's building.
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He's building all these armies.
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It's gamifying being a good person.
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That's what the service.org was.
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Also, I need to be very clear about this because I think that you agreed with what Alex was saying
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in a bad way. Alex is inverting it.
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He's not saying I need your help.
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Saying only all of us can do this.
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Right.
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That's different.
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No, no, I know.
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The reason that I laughed at that immediately is because I was waiting for him to then be like,
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we also need you to fund your operation.
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We need your money.
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If it weren't for you guys, I wouldn't be able to do this.
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I represent you.
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Your brain is displaced in time.
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That's present day.
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Fair enough.
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Alex in 2009 hasn't figured that game out.
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But trust me, we will get into sponsors in a little bit.
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Very weird.
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But so Obama is going to destroy America.
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Yep.
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He's trying to build a million man army.
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Clads gathering.
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Volunteerism is evil.
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Oh yeah.
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And you can't trust people who volunteer.
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No, and it gets worse.
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So see, that's a deception.
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And then he comes in with the big one.
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He says, our bill of rights, our constitution, right?
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Our form of government, our, our liberty.
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So that's what America is.
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People are like, yes, yes, yes.
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But he's coming to destroy all those forms.
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His agenda is to remove those centralized power and expand the federal government.
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It's all a trap.
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What are you doing?
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I don't even want to play the rest of it.
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Yeah, what the fuck is going on?
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Oh, uh, now see, when he said that it's a good idea to be nice to people, what he meant
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was it's a bad idea to be nice to people.
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And if he said it was a bad idea to be nice to people, well, it was a bad idea to not
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be nice to people.
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And if he didn't say anything about it, I'd be like, well, why didn't you say anything
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about how it is to be nice to people?
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Right.
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What a fucking asshole.
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Yeah, Obama gives a good speech about how we got to work together.
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And, uh, you know, the reason that this country is so great is because we've stuck to our
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traditions and we've stuck to our respect of law and each other, even through hard times.
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Even through somebody that you absolutely disagree with, who is a war criminal that
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should be punished commensurately.
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Yeah.
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Even then, America is still like, well, we're gonna fucking move along.
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We got another president, this war criminal, fine, fucking, at least he's gone now.
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Right.
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And now we've got another war criminal.
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And he wasn't even a dick!
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Uh, about, you know, George W was, well, also, I think W at that point was like, oh, thank
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God I don't have to do this shit anymore.
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And I don't remember Obama being like, fuck George W Bush.
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No, he wasn't.
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He was always ridiculously respectful, which is, again, one of the reasons that we are
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where we are right now.
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I mean, there was like a smattering of booze at the inauguration for, but that wasn't Obama
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doing that.
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No.
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That was people.
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Yeah.
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Uh, they have the right to free speech.
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Also, God, do you remember when the president could use a metaphor?
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Do you remember those days?
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Oh, so evocative.
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He used to be able to, the president used to be able to speak in such a way that you
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would feel and, uh, you would respond to an image that appeared in your brain.
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That's called writing well.
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Yeah, but said president made a big old mistake.
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Oh no.
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Because he wore a tan suit one time.
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And then the presidency was diminished.
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It's all it took.
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Yeah, it's all it took.
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Like I said, I don't want to play the rest of this or at least a lot of it because it's
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just going to be redundant.
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So I'm going to, I'm going to just play the stuff that I think is worthwhile here.
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He gets caught by another break.
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So it has been, so it must be with this generation of Americans that we are in the midst of crisis.
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Again, he's saying we're going to always be like we were before the freedom.
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So it was, so it must be, but in reality, she was all about change.
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Now he's saying America, dedication, honor, our history, our, our, our, our, our sacred
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conventions and cannons.
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And then he's, I mean, just wait, it just gets more and more incredible.
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But again, one of the best speeches ever.
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He didn't write it.
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He's reading off a teleprompter, but delivering it with great aplomb, very well done.
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We're going to come back a long segment, get to most of this, just devastating to freedom.
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Sure.
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How good was Obama as a speaker?
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Even Alex, after claiming that everything he said was a lie, that means the opposite
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of it is still like he gave a pretty good speech.
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Yeah.
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He's not going to lie.
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He's pretty good.
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You were talking over it.
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He said it's a great speech.
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He didn't write it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like, fuck you.
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What a dick.
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And actually you can talk to his speechwriter and every time his speechwriter gave Obama
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a speech, it would come back with red fucking ink all over it because Obama was a good writer.
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Now the same is true with Trump, but that's just because he keeps spilling his red ink
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bottle.
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Exactly.
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Well, actually it's mostly, it's mostly tomato juice.
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That's terrorism.
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He is a terrorist.
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Um, so I mean, uh, here's some, here's, this is dumb.
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Our nation is at war against a far reaching network of violence and hatred.
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Our economy is badly weakened.
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Okay.
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So he ties the economy being trouble to being at war with this far reaching enemy.
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Then later he goes, and now they're going to smoke them out of their holes.
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So right back to the cold war, right back to the anti-tariff, we fighting the secret
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brotherhood of Emmanuel Goldstein, 1984, the guy with the turban and the big beard.
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And he ties that all in the next to the economy.
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Like we're fighting terrorists and we got to fix our economy.
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See, that's psychology.
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They're nexusing the two together.
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Huh.
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It could be that they are interconnected and they are a negative things that our country
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is wrestling with right now.
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Yeah.
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Um, I would be when he used the metaphor of gathering storms, perhaps he then literalizes
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it later on in the speech.
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I would hate for Alex to have me go through a bunch of things and see what things he mentions
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back to back.
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I would hate, I would hate to have to find out what he tries to nexus in his audience's
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brain.
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Wouldn't be hard.
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I imagine a lot of it is pretty dark stuff.
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I imagine a lot of it drifts heavily white nationalists in nature, especially as we get
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closer and closer to the present.
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Little bit.
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No big deal.
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So in this next clip of, you know, we got, you got, uh, soy boys running around now.
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Oh, those soy boys.
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We've got a lot of pussy liberals who are getting triggered by a bunch of snowflakes.
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This next clip, Alex gets triggered by Obama.
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Oh no.
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And prepare the nation for a new age.
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You want some new world order talk?
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Can't even fucking say a new way.
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Yeah.
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What are you talking about?
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Oh, language policing.
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Yeah.
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Obviously.
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Ha ha ha.
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New age.
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Caught you.
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It's the new world order.
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You're rebranding.
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I know what you mean.
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I fooled you.
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So he accuses Obama talking about the environment for being about carbon taxes.
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We don't really need to listen to that.
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That's just sort of like, blah.
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Sure.
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Uh, but this, this clip is dumb, but it's actually kind of funny because, uh, you see
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in real time, Alex needing two takes to get his rant down.
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Wait, what?
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This is a mic down one.
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Listen to this.
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This is really fascinating.
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Here we go.
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These are the indicators of crisis subject to data and statistics less measurable, but
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no less profound is a sapping of competence across our land.
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Okay.
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Um, they told us the economy was great for decades as they shifted us from a manufacturing
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to a debtor based service economy.
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So we would be, uh, totally under their control and not be independent.
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And the government documents state, they want that destroy the family,
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break down communities, bankrupt the stage fund funded mandates.
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And then he comes in and, uh, talks about how we're losing our houses and losing our
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jobs all done by design.
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Let's back that up again, because I want to comment on it.
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A planet.
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These are the indicators of crisis, same data and statistics, less measurable, but no less
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profound is a sapping of competence across our land.
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Okay.
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Now, now, now what happened?
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The bankers told us everything was great while they were setting this up while we were all
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going into debt while the society was falling apart.
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He's just like, I forgot my bit.
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All right.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Hold on.
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Hold on.
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Let me take that one more time.
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Okay guys.
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I messed up the punchline.
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I'm going to, no, I, I ended with the part that I should have started with.
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It kind of ruined everything.
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Let me take that one more time.
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I swear it's actually a funny bit.
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If you give it a chance.
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There's good A to B construction here, but yeah, you just gotta find the, yeah.
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Fantastic.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, at this point, I don't think he thinks that many people are listening.
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And so it's fine to do that.
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Right.
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Because otherwise if you're listening, he's like, why did he do that again?
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The next time he just says basically the same thing, but he rearranged it.
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He made it more accusatory.
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That's all.
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That's all he did is he changed his language to be like, they did this.
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Right.
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As opposed to this happened and it was them.
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Which is, I mean, semantically, it will make a difference how people hear it, but.
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It never fails to kind of surprise me how, how stupid these people are when they boiled
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down a massive, complicated, interconnected system that has changed more rapidly than
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it ever has in the history of the human race and calling it just a, you know, they planned
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it, you know?
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Like, oh yeah, no, that's what their plan was.
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They want to make us, they got, we switched from a manufacturing to a service economy
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as though that was a thing.
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Because they want to destroy families.
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It definitely had nothing to do with fucking automating.
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It turns out we can get rid of people and all the stuff.
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Yeah.
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I mean, whatever, whatever like sort of trends that Alex wants to blame on subsidies overseas
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and stuff like that, anything that he wants to talk about, like given a little bit more
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time, even if we didn't do that stuff, it would be robots.
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You know, like all of those manufacturing jobs, all of the coal jobs that Trump pretends
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are coming back, all of that stuff is just going to end up inevitably not even being
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done by cheap labor being done by automation.
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So I think his point is ultimately stupid.
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Yes.
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That's what I was getting to.
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I love how essentially we always wind up breaking down perfectly what's going on and then we
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just get to the same conclusion.
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So basically what he said was dumb.
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He's wasting time and so are we.
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I don't know.
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Like at the end of the day, here's why it's wrong.
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Take this information, use it later on in your life.
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But in the context of our show, we nailed it.
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This guy's dumb.
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And we're just doing this to get to something that happens a little bit later.
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That's hilarious.
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I promise you that.
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But this next clip is pretty funny because Alex is mad about Obama being you know, he's
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mad about Obama being wrong about Paul Reiser.
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He's mad at Paul Reiser.
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No, and he's not mad at me because I was still in Missouri at this point.
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I had no idea who I was.
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But he's mad at something that Obama says because it's totally wrong.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I got bad news.
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Alex is totally wrong.
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OK.
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We remain a young nation, but in the words of scripture, the time has come to set aside
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childish things.
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OK, everything that he just said is a lie.
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The United States is now older than the Roman Republic when it can fail.
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Oh, really?
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The United States is the oldest continuing government system in the world.
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No, 235 years old.
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What?
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What?
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It's the oldest 1776.
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Hey, 230 plus years old.
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It is the oldest government continually operating government in history.
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Just because he's saying it doesn't mean it's true.
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Another lie.
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Then he quotes scripture to manipulate people religiously.
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Oh, does he?
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Oh, there's another point I wanted to make.
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I can't imagine anybody doing that.
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No, I can't imagine you doing that.
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That'd be crazy.
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So that's frankly quoting scripture to manipulate people.
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That's disrespectful.
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That reminds me of a quote from the scripture.
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Don't manipulate people.
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Even the devil can use scripture for his own purposes, Dan.
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Oh, that is from scripture.
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Oh, yeah.
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Interesting.
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Tell me I don't know my scripture.
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Oh, boy.
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I'm manipulating the fuck out of you, Dan.
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I'm very confused.
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You don't got nothing.
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So Alex says the United States is older than the Roman Republic.
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And the republic period started about 509 BC.
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Yeah.
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It ended in 27 BC with the establishment of the empire.
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Right.
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So that's longer than the United States.
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So that's one piece.
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And then if you go even further than that,
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let's talk about America really being a republic.
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When did women get the right to vote?
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Uh, 1910s?
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Yeah, somewhere in there.
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When did black people get the right to vote?
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Ooh, do they?
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Yeah, well, fair, fair.
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A lot.
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There's trouble.
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But on paper, we've really only been...
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Theoretically speaking, black people do have the right to vote.
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We've been like a functioning democracy republic for like 50 years or something like that compared
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to whatever.
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And even then, spotty, not contiguous.
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Like Grover Cleveland, there have been very many non-consecutive sections of functioning
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republic.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So also San Marino, according to legend.
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Yes.
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Lore.
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Lore.
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They established themselves as a republic in the year 301 AD and have been a consistent
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government since.
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For 1716 years, they have existed as a self-governing republic.
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Now, granted, a lot of people would say that you're a part of Italy, but I say, no, sir,
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San Marino.
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Yeah, but that's bush league.
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It's like, I don't count Babe Ruth's home runs as much because he didn't play against
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black players.
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That's a good point.
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San Marino was a republic before it was cool, Dan.
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Yeah.
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That doesn't count.
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They didn't even have any competition in the republic game at the time.
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It doesn't count.
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It doesn't count.
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There's also a couple of governments in Europe like England and the Netherlands that have
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much longer standing republics, but they're not.
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Again, they got uncontiguous.
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They got interrupted, but they got back to it, which is good.
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I don't know.
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I suppose.
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Anyway, we could just use the Rome example or the Roman Republic and just be like, you're
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dumb.
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We could use why would you even begin to say that?
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That is such a stupid thing to say that even if you were stupid, seems stupid, right?
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I mean, I guess if you really wanted to get into it, you could try and make the argument
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that there's different periods within the Roman Republic era, but Alex couldn't do that.
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I don't find that to be charming.
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But even then, on just a more intuitive level, I think he might have been thinking about
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Greece, because the Grecian empire or the Grecian republics were much shorter lived.
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There were multiple of them throughout history.
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That was a city state period of time, too.
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So it wasn't like a nationalized republic of any sort.
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Anyway, there's all this to say that Alex is stupid.
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In his next clip, he gets a little bit defensive about that biblical scripture again.
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And every time I feel like we need to have Alex for charity, Alex, I challenge a little
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trivia.
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I challenge you to sit in a dunk tank.
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And every time we dunk on you, you get dunked.
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That would be great.
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That would be fun.
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We'll be in Austin.
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It's gonna be hot out.
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Yep, gonna want to wear light clothes.
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Light clothes.
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But in the words of scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things.
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See, oh, I'm for the old, but we can't have gridlock anymore, separation of powers, and
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it's time to stop being children.
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America, that was old stuff.
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That was childlike.
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Now we're going forward with the new thing.
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We're adults now.
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I'm your daddy.
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I'm government 2.0.
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I'm president of the world.
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Okay.
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No, literally every part of this speech is about how he's not president of the world.
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Yeah, every part of this speech is like, Hey, guess what, America?
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You've been acting like fucking children this whole goddamn time.
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Sack up and let's work together to do this.
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See, I don't get why you don't see that that means that he's actually saying that he is
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the president of the world.
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Why that means?
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What do you think it means?
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Job I'll speak, I mean, but even double speak isn't that double speak.
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So suffice it to say that he does an hour plus of this.
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It can't be.
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If I took all the clips, it would be as confusing because he's just saying that he's digging
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too deep into these clips and using exegesis to bring out themes that aren't there, like
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a first year creative writing student in a workshop.
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Um, and it would just like, we're already at a point where we've both been up too long
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today or we're tired and we, we would get so bored and so furious.
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So I'm going to skip the rest of it now.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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And now we get to something really weird.
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So he does an hour and a half of this.
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And then speaking of sponsors, uh, we have him on every month or so.
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And it's been about two months since we've had him on.
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And the reason I like this sponsor and by my sponsors, I mean, people, you hear me endorse.
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That's my sponsors, except from the network sponsors.
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Who do you think we got a visit from?
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Who's one of his sponsors?
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It's one of his sponsors.
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Is it, uh, Ooh, is it postcard lady?
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Who's postcard lady?
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The one who sells you the, the one sentence that'll get you out of any.
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Oh, Stubblebind's wife?
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Yes, Stubblebind.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not the, not the Stubblebind controversy.
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Dr. Reema Labo is not in play in 2009.
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As far as I can tell, also general Stubblebind is nowhere to be found.
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Well, he was actually grown in a lab.
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Um, it didn't pop out until 2012.
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Uh, so it's someone we have met.
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Okay.
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Um, and I'm assuming that it's not our, it's not our boy gold, gold guy.
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Uh, Ted Anderson.
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No, not Ted Anderson, not random genes, which way better name than diamond gusset.
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It's Marty Schachter of the soap company.
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Well, let me be honest.
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I also endorse that product.
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Soap.
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It gets you so clean, so clean.
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Alex.
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Moisturizes better than Irish spring.
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Let me tell you something about this soap, Dan.
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Alex has spent an hour and a half of his show talking about how Obama's just lying through
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his teeth.
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It's all double scoop.
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Oh yeah.
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And then now let's bring in my soap salesman, uh, sponsor.
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My soaps.
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So they talk about how soap isn't soap and his soap is real soap.
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Sure, sure.
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Why not?
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Why not make the Obama's speech analysis also about soap?
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So then we get into this.
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This is a really troubling clip.
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We're an American company making American products with all our people are Americans.
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And we're very, very happy about that.
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And when we got the biggest sign in our warehouse here, Alex Jones, that's our God over here.
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Hostile work environment.
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Hostile work environment.
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I would say I'm as troubled by the Alex Jones is God sign and the we're all Americans.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To be fair, I want to be clear because where I cut the clip, uh, Alex does say after that,
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don't say that about me.
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I'm not Obama trying to deflect a little bit, but he seems like he's kind of thrilled.
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Minus one points to Alex.
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I didn't know he was getting scored.
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Should be way lower than negative one.
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Well, the bar is lower for him.
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Marty Schachter.
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We, we grade on a curve here.
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Marty Schachter, the soap, uh, reactor is negative one for me.
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Oh no, no, no.
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Again, low bar for he's coming in soap, American soap, American people making American soap,
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white soap, white factory, all Alex Jones, white God.
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We love it.
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It's so American white that Irish spring is offensive to them.
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Fuck is this green shit?
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So speaking of Irish spring, if you'll recall the last time Marty Schachter was on Alex,
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I don't very embarrassingly had to ask him to do a Limerick.
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Oh, that's right.
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Oh my God.
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He does Limericks.
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That's his fucking thing.
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He's the guy who does Limericks as a thing.
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And he's proud of it.
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He is not a guy who does Limericks as a gimmick.
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He does Limericks.
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They're not gimmick Limericks.
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They're not Gimmericks.
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Yeah.
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No, this guy.
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He does this like a violinist at a recital.
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This guy has them in the chamber.
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This guy clearly insists that Alex ask him to do a Limerick.
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Oh yeah.
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That's part of the sponsorship deal.
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And as soon as he was like, I got Marty Schachter on and he's got some great soap.
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I'm like Limerick, Limerick, Limerick, Limerick, please, please, please.
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I cannot have to listen to this racist soap guy without a fucking Limerick.
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And lo and behold.
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Does not disappoint.
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At the end of their interview, here comes a Limerick baby.
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Hey, give us packages.
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Give us a Limerick.
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Marty, give me a Limerick.
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I'm ready.
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He, he hated to show.
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So young Ned rang the neighbor, rang the bell of his neighbor instead, but her husband said,
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why, when you stitched his torn fly, there was no need to bite off the thread.
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Amazing.
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What an asshole.
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Long pause.
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That is a great beat.
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Great beat.
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Got to give Alex for the perfect length of time to make that as disrespectful as possible.
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One second longer and he's confused. One second shorter.
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It's kind of disappointing.
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It feels sincere.
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That perfect beat is just enough time to throw the correct amount of shade.
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I loved it.
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I think it's not that.
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I think he's confused.
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I think Alex is confused because like every single time he asks him for a Limerick, the
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last one was fucking sexy or sexy.
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It was sexual.
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Yeah.
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This one is again about a blow job.
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Like Marty Schachter's just coming.
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He's an old man who wants to tell dirty Limerick songs.
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I don't think that counts as a Limerick.
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No.
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Listening to that.
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Neder is off.
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Yeah.
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I think he screwed it up in the middle or I would say at the beginning, but again.
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At the very moment he thought I could be the Limerick guy.
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This is such a delightful just piece of reality that in 2009, again, it bears repeating.
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This is what Alex was forced to do in order to get this guy to sponsor his show.
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He has to have him come on.
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And you can just hear it in his voice.
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All right, Marty.
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Can I get a Limerick?
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All right.
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Long pause.
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Awesome, my friend.
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Amazing.
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Amazing.
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Great.
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All right.
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Where can you get your soap?
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Oh man, it's good.
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Limerick soap.
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All right.
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Can't wait for his next appearance.
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He's going to have more Limericks.
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I just want to try.
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There's no way I'd be able to like just time it out to find.
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Also, these are, he didn't make these Limericks up.
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That's a classic Limerick.
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Yeah.
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He's a hack.
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It's a Limerick hat.
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Just hack on hack.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Oh God, it's so great.
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He's a Hack-a-rick.
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This picture of his life back then is somewhat delightful to me on some levels because,
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you know, we talk about sometimes, I don't know if we have in a really long time,
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but there was a thought of like how Alex Jones would make a really funny sitcom.
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Like this bigot propagandist yelling in the booth and what have you.
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That's my Bush kind of thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I don't think he would in the present day, but like that beat, those kinds of moments
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would make for an amazing.
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Absolutely.
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Maybe short film series or something.
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Oh, I can see a Larry Sanders show.
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Oh, for sure.
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You could just hear after, awesome, my friend.
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I'm just Alex staring at the microphone like, what am I doing?
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Oh, so good.
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So Alex has one more guest on this show.
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And he's going to, he's going to bring out a giraffe.
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Apparently we're doing, we're doing late period Johnny Carson now.
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Do you think that's what this guest is going to do?
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So this guest is a guy by the name of Barry Cooper.
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Have you ever heard of Barry Cooper?
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He is a former cop.
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Dave Barry Cooper?
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No, does not make fart jokes for a living.
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Nor has he hijacked a plane.
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Oh, I see DB Cooper.
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I was, I was mixing them both together.
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It was pretty good.
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So, uh, Barry Cooper is a guy who started, and I wanted to say really quick, I don't
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want, I'm not going to show you a picture of him, Jordan, but everyone Google Barry
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Cooper, you're going to have a treat.
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He looks crazy.
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Okay.
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You could do that after the show or right now, as I'm explaining him to you.
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So he, at the time in 2009 was a running a site called never get busted and he definitely
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shouldn't come anywhere near our show.
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Dan, do you know why you busted?
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You busted.
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So I want to say a lot about him.
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And first is I think that probably he was doing some good in 2009 because one of the
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things that his website is all about is teaching you how to pass drug tests.
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So like, he's teaching you how to like what you should take and like, he's like, I have
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tested a lot of these over the counter things you can get at head shops and like, these
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are the ones that work.
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These are the ones that'll help you with.
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If you want to pass a hair test, you got to bleach your hair.
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That will trick the, uh, that sort of thing.
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And he's like, yeah, if you have to take it, if it's for weed, you should just use fake
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piss because they're not going to do that much of a test for just looking for, you know,
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so he's got, he did probably, turns out you have HPV though.
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Oh boy.
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From the fake piss.
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Yeah.
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I got fake PV.
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Um, so I don't know the rest of the trappings of what he was into, but I do agree on some
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level that there's abusive practices that are being used to people getting jammed up
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and stuff.
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And I don't think that there's any reason if you're on probation, you're going to have
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a reason if you're on probation, you want to get high or something like that.
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I don't feel like that should be like you have to go to prison now.
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No, of course not.
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That's fucking stupid.
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And I don't know if he was given good advice.
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Let me be clear about that.
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That's true.
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I have no idea.
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But theoretically, Hart might be in the right place.
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On the assumption that the advice he was giving about drug tests was correct, I think he probably
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helped some people and good on him for that.
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Good.
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Now.
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That said, there is some Dr. Oz going to happen, isn't there?
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Since then, if you Google him, you will find something called Trip to Wellness.
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Love it.
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He has started a business wherein I thought it was a cruise, but OK, for five thousand
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dollars, he will fly you to another country and give you Ibogaine.
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That's a good business.
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Yeah, that's a good business.
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No repeat customers because he is not flying you back.
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Ibogaine and ayahuasca are both touted as good ways to cure addiction.
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And the science on it is iffy, to say the least.
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All right.
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But at the same time, the United States can't really do full-fledged studies on these things.
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So the information that is available is pretty limited.
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Right.
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But what you can find if you really look into it is everybody who sells these vacation packages
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with Ibogaine in it will tell you you will be reset to before you were addicted to drugs
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and stuff like that.
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But people who don't go into treatment after that have like an 80 percent relapse rate.
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So are we once again talking about how there's a support structure that needs to be in place?
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Yes.
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Not just a quick fix.
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Right.
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But at the same time, the studies and the information that is available show that it's
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markedly higher than just like detoxing.
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That's good.
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I'm all for it.
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The indications you can get are like something to the effect of like a 20 to 40, 20 to 50
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percent success rate when people go into treatment in terms of like a support group or a 12-step
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program or something like that after having this treatment.
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Whereas before, it's usually like 10 percent or less.
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Yeah, it's something like 80 percent.
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At the same time, if you don't do any of those things and you just go back to your normal
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patterns, your relapse rate is almost inevitable.
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It's just like weight loss.
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It's an ongoing process.
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It is not a thing you do.
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In the meantime, this guy makes five grand off you when he flies you to this port of
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Vallarta and gives you Ibogaine.
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On the other hand, you're still flown to Port of Vallarta and you're doing Ibogaine like
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win or lose at the end of the day.
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You still did that.
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That's not too bad.
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You have a nice vacation and some fucked up dreams.
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Yeah, that's not bad.
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It also occurs to me.
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There are worse scams.
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Yeah, it occurs to me that there's low overhead on this operation because it says our treatments
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vacation start at $4,950 start, so it's probably options could be higher than that.
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Now, that's a deal.
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But to keep our prices lower than all treatment centers, we offer phone calls only to those
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who are ready to book their trip.
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So that means to me they don't have a staff.
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No.
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That means there's...
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No, no, no, no.
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No, nobody's taking cold calls.
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No, certainly not.
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This isn't a timeshare sales group here where you got somebody hard selling you the whole
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time.
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If you got questions, send us an email.
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Hey, you wanna fly to Puerto Vallarta and do some drugs?
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Yes?
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Call us.
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No?
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Leave us the fuck alone.
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If you have questions, don't.
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And again, the biggest piece of it, and I think it bears repeating, is I think this
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guy's a con man just based on the fact that he's...
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I think a lot of these people who run businesses like this are not totally above board.
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For sure.
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I think that there's a lot of...
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Absolutely.
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Connery involved.
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But at the same time, I think probably there is good intentions behind it because there
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are indications that this is a better way to treat addiction.
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And like I said, scam-wise, way less damaging than a lot of other scams.
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Well, I don't know because I think that if you go in with the unrealistic expectation
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that I'm gonna go trip on Abagain, I keep pronouncing it differently for some reason,
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just comes out of my mouth weird, but I'm gonna go trip on this stuff and then I'm gonna
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come back cured and then you're not.
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I think that could lead to a feeling of I'm trapped in addiction for the rest of my life.
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Even this extreme $5,000 vacation couldn't help me out.
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I'm going to just be an addict for life.
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Whereas I don't know, I don't know what his whole process is.
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And I don't know if it's...
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When you get off the plane, he shoots a blow dart in your neck.
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And then you go from there.
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Well, I mean, so the first three days, they give you drugs because they don't want you
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to have withdrawals.
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So they give you drugs and you...
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Whatever your game is.
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Right.
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Which is a very above board business.
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And then they will supply you with eight.
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Yeah.
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So then the rest of the time, you just do whatever for the first three days.
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On the fourth day, you get the Abagain.
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You get like a tester dose.
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And if you're not allergic to it, you get the full dose.
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And then you trip your balls off for 12 to 18 hours.
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You freak out and then you go to bed.
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Then on day five, here's what it says on the itinerary.
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Okay.
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This is why I think that maybe there isn't indications from them that it's like when
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you get home, you need to enter NA or whatever.
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Day five, all of your systems will be reset to pre-addictive state and you will have no
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cravings or withdrawals.
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Alex will check on you throughout the day.
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Not Alex Jones.
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No.
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Because you naturally want to rest in bed.
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Day six, same as day five.
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Day seven, you'll revisit the holistic spa to receive chelation treatment.
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Day eight, you are free to vacation and enjoy your new life.
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Day nine, you are free to vacation and enjoy your new life.
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This is not a great itinerary.
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No, no.
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I like bullet points.
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If you've ever been to a business conference, man, you got to have bullet points.
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So then on day 11 through 15...
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I want one PowerPoint presentation at least in this whole thing.
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So on day 11 through 15, you get personalized life coaching with this Barry.
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Love it.
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And, you know, I don't know if that life...
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Hey, hey, hey, you know those drugs?
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Bad.
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Stop them.
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Yeah.
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Get out of here.
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All right.
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You're a good kid.
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Come on.
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Again, a lot of this would probably be funnier if you knew what he looked like because he
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looks crazy.
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But also, like, I don't know, I'm so torn.
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I'm really, really, really torn.
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Like Natalie Imbruglia?
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Yeah.
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No.
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I mean, you are, in theory, putting someone up for 15 days.
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But I do think that it mentions here that you have to pay for your own food during that
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time.
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Yeah.
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Meals are $5 to $7 each.
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That's...
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Look.
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It does not include flight, hotel, or food.
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All right.
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So there we go.
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Flights.
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There it is.
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Oh, that's a problem.
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That's where it gets crazy.
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And it doesn't include taxis.
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Definitely starting at $49.50 for that.
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Yeah.
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I think if it included airfare, good on you.
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Yeah.
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But it doesn't.
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No.
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There's a lot of clearing of money here.
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At the end of the day, you're an addict.
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Yes.
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And you're addicted to trying to find solutions to your addiction.
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And you are spending probably $12 to $14 grand by the time you're out of here.
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Out of there?
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Yeah.
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And they didn't even have a functioning Airbnb back then.
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I think they rely on the idea that addicts make bad decisions.
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That's true.
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That's a good point.
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So I don't want...
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But addicts with $14 grand definitely make bad decisions.
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But I don't want to beat this up too much.
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Because on some levels, if you look at the relapse rate of people who are treated in
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conventional ways, and you look at the difference between 8 and let's say 20, 25% is big.
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And people are dying.
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Yeah.
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Like, Ibogaine has been shown to be pretty effective and helpful with opiates in particular.
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And that's what's killing the most people.
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Absolutely.
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So I'm open-minded about these ideas of alternative treatments.
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And I hope more studying is done about it.
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But I don't know if this is helping.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I don't know.
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And he's on Alex Jones' show.
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So that means to me, I'm inclined to believe he's a con man.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that you run into his orbit unless you're a con man.
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Yeah.
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Also, I don't like this perspective on drugs.
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So when they get up on the news that we're trying to help the children, we're trying
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to fight drugs, they consciously know it's just a big business and they're just mercenary
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pirates?
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Talking about cops.
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I'm not sure.
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It depends on what level they're at.
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The guys in top government know that.
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The lower guys in the task force, like I was, somehow I really believed I was saving a kid
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from getting this marijuana on a playground somewhere.
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Because I had been told that.
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But through several years of investigation, I'm like, you know, I've never caught one
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person on a playground trying to sell our kids drugs.
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And to come to think about it, I don't know of any kids that have died of an overdose
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in my community.
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Well, I think you're just a bad cop.
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If he's only talking about weed, fine.
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Yeah.
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And yet, I don't think a lot of neighborhoods do have someone selling drugs at a park.
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A lot of them fucking do.
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Right.
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You're just not there.
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Right.
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You're in a different community.
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But at the same time, the way he ends that, he's like, I don't know.
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I haven't seen any people overdosing in my community as if to suggest people aren't.
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And that is really, really fucked up.
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Because people are.
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People are overdosing.
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You can look at the stats.
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They're very clearly available.
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There's thousands of people every year, various substances, cocaine, benzos, opiates.
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People are dying every day because of misdosing drugs.
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I had a friend in high school who OD'd on heroin.
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Like, I know people, kids who died of overdoses.
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It's not something that's made up to demonize and let cops get away with being bad guys.
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Right.
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I don't like that.
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It's really bad.
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Which makes me think even more that this new thing is a scam.
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Right, right.
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Because if that's his perspective on it, then I don't know.
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I don't know.
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This guy threw me for a big loop.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're clearly out of sorts here.
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I much prefer talking about the soap guy.
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You wish there was more digging into this that you could do.
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This is so nebulous.
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We need to...
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No, no, no, no.
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I wish that he didn't seem like...
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New policy won't goal.
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If we get 14 grand, we will go do this program.
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I would go in a fucking heartbeat.
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No shit.
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But don't give us that money.
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Don't give us that money.
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Get three days of free heroin?
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Come on, man.
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I...
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No, because you can only get the drugs that you already do.
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I'd have to get a...
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Well, we'd start doing heroin a couple of days beforehand.
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Get myself a nice heroin habit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is not in the cards.
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So the other problem is that in the middle of their interview,
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that's when Alex talks about smoking cocaine in a joint.
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And this guy's like, yeah.
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Yeah, of course.
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As if to indicate that he doesn't know that that's ridiculous.
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Then Alex talks about his assaults when he was a kid.
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The assaults that he committed.
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And he talks about them very differently.
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But it's just not fun.
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What these guys...
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It's not as hyper-masculine back then.
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What these guys are doing is the same thing that
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local news did with like,
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are your kids playing the blowjob game where they wear different levels of makeup?
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You guys are making this bullshit up because you don't understand.
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And you're just making up peers.
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To a degree.
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It's bullshit.
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All right, here's the deal.
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I've been...
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I know what happens in this last clip.
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And that's kind of shading a lot of my feelings about this guy.
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And the reason that I'm so conflicted is that like,
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like I said, I'm into this.
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And I think people need help.
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And if that's an option to give them help, great.
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But I don't like con business.
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Anyway, this next clip is so crazy.
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This is insane.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how to set this up.
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This is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard a guest say on Alex's show.
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That's crazy.
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They're talking about the idea of like chastity and abstinence education.
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That makes sense for them to have jumped onto that topic.
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But get this.
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It's so fucking weird.
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This is another Mike Down clip.
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Listen to this.
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This is insane.
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And while my parents worked like slaves to pay taxes,
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they weren't good parents.
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And most of the people I've met had dysfunctional homes.
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And we keep talking about bringing, bringing the family back,
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bringing the family back.
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Well, we're in error and we're off track when we concentrate on teaching our kids
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laws and legalisms.
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Don't drink, don't cuss, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't have drugs.
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None of that stuff is working.
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That celibacy class that Alex that you were talking about getting the ring,
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had they spent six weeks teaching what jealousy looks like.
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Okay, you girls over here, you're acting jealous when you do this
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because jealousy is crueler than the grave.
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And man, it is rampant in our nation.
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I run into that everywhere.
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That's why you don't put the children in the public schools.
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If you can't, because it's so mean.
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It's horrible.
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I know.
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So we could teach our kids, have a class on jealousy and teach them.
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Look, if you have a mate or somebody you're attracted to and they're showing
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this red flag of jealousy and they won't quit, that's a red flag.
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Don't be involved with that partner because I was married to a lady
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that was very jealous for 10 years, but nobody had taught me.
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Oh no, oh no, this is about your ex-wife.
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Oh no, oh no, Barry.
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I just want to drive around this town.
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I love it when it turns into like, now what we should be doing is teaching
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kids how not to behave like my fucking bitch ex-wife.
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I hated that lady.
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And I'll tell you, I know why she was the wrong person.
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I know what she was doing wrong.
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Definitely don't need to take any responsibility on my end.
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No, no, no, no.
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It's all these girls are jealous.
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That, don't, dare?
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No, dare to not be jealous, Dan.
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That clip gives you whiplash because you're starting down a road where you're like,
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yeah, this chastity in Don't Smoke, Don't Drink education isn't effective.
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Absolutely not.
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What we need to do is teach girls not to be jealous.
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Specifically, specifically for six weeks.
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Did you know that it takes exactly six weeks to get girls not to be jealous, Dan?
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That's just, that's just been scientifically proven.
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Also, guys can be jealous.
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That's a huge problem.
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No, no, no, men can't do it.
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We specifically teach these girls to be jealous.
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Which is confusing.
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If you're sitting there, you're like, huh, that's a weird idea.
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And then he, of his own accord, brings up his ex-wife who is too jealous.
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And you're like, ah, there it is.
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He's not the kind of guy I want administering ayahuasca for me.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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I don't want this guy to life coach me for three days.
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That's crazy.
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I'm just sitting there listening to this shit and I'm like,
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like, how do you not know what you're saying?
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Look, just, just cause I cheated on my wife a few times.
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Right.
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She's, what it really was is she was too jealous.
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I made amends.
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What?
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You're going to be jealous about everything now?
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I'll give you six weeks of training in this fist right here.
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You think for somebody who like, his whole thing, even at this point in 2009,
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cause he's running that don't get busted stuff.
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And his idea for that was based on doing hallucinogens because he was like a cop.
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He even says on Alex's show, and I didn't play this part cause I don't really necessarily believe
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it, but he's talking about how he would like plant evidence on people and set them up.
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And it's, it sounds like it's from a movie.
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I don't really, I would also argue that he probably didn't, but I'm sure he saw it.
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Yeah, it's possible.
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It's possible, but I don't care to parse that or whatever.
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But his story is that he did hallucinogens and started smoking weed and realized a better way.
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Right.
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And for that kind of a person to come out of that transformation and still be like,
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girls need to be less jealous than my ex-wife is a bitch.
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Yup.
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That means it didn't take.
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Hallucinogens.
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That means to me, your hippie dippy enlightenment moment is false.
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And all it is is you weren't cutting it as a cop and maybe, and I'm
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Probably did some drugs on the job.
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I'm not saying you should be setting people up, but I'm saying
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you didn't want to do that and you wanted a better story.
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And this is the story you landed on.
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I'm guessing he got, he got let go for cause.
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I mean, it's possible.
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For cause my friend.
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Again, I don't care to parse it and I don't know how I would figure that out.
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But anyway, this guy, what a dick.
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This fucking guy.
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Yeah.
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That brings us to the end of our show.
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I just love the specificity.
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Sure.
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Look, you take a six week course in whatever you want.
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Pottery, fuck that.
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Jealousy.
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I'm going to teach you how to not be jealous.
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You know, one of those basic human emotions that is very, very difficult to control.
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I can fix it in six weeks.
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And one of the human behaviors that I really, I do think this.
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It's one of the behaviors that's most caused by someone else's behavior.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I do think that some people are, are pathologically jealous.
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There are some people out there in the world, both men and women.
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Right.
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But I, I, I think a lot of it can be triggered by someone not being responsive to a person's
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needs, shit like that.
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Yeah, but at the end of the day, how much, how much insecurity, how much of your own
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insecurity is the real cause of your, your jealousy?
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What I mean, I don't care to, I don't care to get into that.
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And I don't care to get into what I just said.
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Okay.
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What I was trying to say, I think.
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Default minus one point for that.
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What I think I was trying to say is the number of people who would be in any way helped by
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a six week class on jealousy is minuscule.
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Six week bootcamp.
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It's a very small amount of people who would be helped by that, but anything is better
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than abstinence only education, so whatever.
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Yeah, sure.
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All right.
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Sure.
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Fine.
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Let's implement your sexist bullshit.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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What now?
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What you should be doing is teaching a six week course about how your women should be
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staying at home.
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I mean, you're not far off from that.
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It's exactly what that is.
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Yeah.
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It's six week class on how to be gaslit.
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Yeah.
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How to not trust your own perceptions.
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Cause that's what most people are going to get out of a class.
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The problem with The Handmaiden's Tale is that it's actually an aspirational story.
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That's what you should want to be like.
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So we've learned that Alex has done cocaine twice.
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Soap limericks.
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Soap limericks doesn't give Obama a chance.
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Just fucking isn't.
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What other drugs has he done twice?
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I know he's done meth twice, he said.
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Done meth twice.
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That's right.
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He does weed every year.
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Right.
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Well that's, yeah, you gotta figure out where you're at.
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Um, I don't know.
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I think he says he's drunk twice.
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Yeah, that's right.
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A day.
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Eats a lot of chili.
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Oh, so much chili.
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So much chili.
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So that brings us to the end of the show.
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Uh, our website.
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Yes, that's knowledgefight.com.
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That's true.
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You can go there.
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Or fillyourhand.com.
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Exactly.
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The best thing that's ever happened in my life.
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Also, we are on Twitter.
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What's our handle?
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At Knowledge Underscore Fight.
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Where else are, are we on Facebook?
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We are.
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We're also mining your data, I assume, right?
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Nope.
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We don't do that?
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Barely paying attention.
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We're bad at it.
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We're bad at it.
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Leave us in charge of most of criminal enterprises and we'll be like,
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eh, I don't think we should be doing this.
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I'm too busy.
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I got to listen to Project Camelot.
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Come on, come on.
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What are you doing stealing people's data?
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Don't be an asshole.
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Yeah.
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We also have a group on Facebook called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
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Uh, go to iTunes.
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Download.
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Yeah.
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Support the show.
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Means a lot.
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Yeah.
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So beyond that, I don't know.
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You want to flip a coin?
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Uh, no.
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I'm going to give it to you.
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I think I'm about to pass out.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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We only have three real people here.
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Alex Jones.
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And again, I feel like it's sort of our standard to not.
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It's a hack-a-rick.
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I find soap limerick man delightful.
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Although he does seem to be like a white nationalist, which is a little troubling,
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but he's too delightful.
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I've got to say Barry Cooper, please go fuck yourself.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.