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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Marty!
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Yeah! Joining me today in this month of May
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where Jordan is doing a whole lot of stand-up
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at the Zaneys. I'm gonna try and fill these episodes with some of my favorite
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folks. And today joining me in the studio, one
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of the best, Marty DeRosa. Hey, it's good to be back.
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Welcome, I like that we got you on camera in this
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sleeveless show. Oh, on my camera? Yeah. Oh shit, I had no idea.
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Show off them guns. I actually was, I did a show with Jordan
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two nights ago, and I told them, at some point
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you do know a little bit about Alex Jones. We've gotten this criticism from
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listeners a number of times. Okay, okay, okay. This does come up.
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And I mean it's not a criticism at all, it's just, I think it's kind of fun, it
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just, you know. We're kind of lying a little bit, but the relative knowledge
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is certainly a wide chasm. Sure. But you know a little bit more
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probably than Jordan about Alex Jones. Well, maybe. I think he's,
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at this point, he knows more. He's taking a summer immersion course.
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He also forgets a lot, though. We've discussed that about how, like,
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and even for me to a certain extent, like, it's kind of just like,
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we process this stuff, we react to it, and like,
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I've had listeners ask me, like, what episode did X, Y, or Z happen? I'm like, I
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got no idea. Oh yeah, like the origin. Sometimes we'll do that with my
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podcast. Like, hey, when did that start? And I'm like, I don't know.
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Any of your buddies? I'm familiar with Alex.
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Also, speaking of your podcast, congratulations. You guys just put out
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episode 99. 99, baby. Which is way more important to celebrate
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than 100, I think. With The Rest Night With Depression, it only took me five years
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to do 99 episodes. This only took me the proper
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amount of time. Yeah, that's what happens when you get
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down to business. That's right. And you protect that business. I try to
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protect the business as best as possible. Indeed.
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But yeah, no, I'm familiar with Alex. I think
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that you're probably on the same page with me, and you sort of helped put me on
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the, I think, on the right path. I was very
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romanticized by conspiracy theories before, you know, Trump took
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office and kind of just ruined, you know, much like the
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alt-right guys ruined the good name of cucks.
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Yeah, exactly. I think also that, you know, the conspiracy theory videos
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have been, they're just not as fun anymore.
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Now, what context is so important to stuff that you goof around with?
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Yeah, and when you see stuff, when you're just like, oh man, that's so fake.
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Yeah. And, you know, and then, you know, you listen to,
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like, the stuff that, you know, my favorite was a couple episodes back I was
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listening to when Alex was like, it's not my job to
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prove anything. I'm like, sure. It's 100 percent your job. Yeah, or it is.
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Whenever you make extraordinary claims, it's your goddamn job, I would say.
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Yeah. I want to ask you this, because you're an expert in other fields,
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such as the wrestling field. That's brilliant.
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Wrestling, porn, maybe. Sure. I don't need to ask any questions about that, though.
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Okay, okay. In terms of wrestling, did you have a similar moment
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at all as the, like, the changing of conspiracy videos
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with this latest event in Saudi Arabia, the greatest royal rumble? See, much how
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you're probably, like, just completely unfazed by anything
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Alex does. Or I can't be shocked. You can't be
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shocked. I'm the same way with WWE. Yeah. I can't be shocked. They're such
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hypocrites. They talk out of both sides of their
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mouths. They'll pat themselves on the back
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so much. Yeah. Wasn't, I mean, wasn't even Stephanie McMahon's quote that, like,
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philanthropy is the new marketing? Yeah. Something along those lines. Even
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that sentence is two-sided. And, you know, there's just a whole lot of
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stuff like that where it's just like, oh man, and then you hear
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the women aren't allowed. The Saudi, whoever was in charge, I don't know if it was
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the Saudi royal family or whoever was in charge,
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had to put out an apology because an ad for backlash was played that showed
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women and they were like, yeah, we are. When I saw something on, like, the
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Reddit squared circle and it was just like,
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uh, it was like, uh, apology made on Greatest Royal Rumble. I'm like, oh, and I
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clicked on it, thinking they're gonna be like, you know
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what, maybe next time we will bring women here.
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And, you know, they wrestled in the, uh. We'll let Sami Zayn have an interesting
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conversation about, uh, him supporting the Syrian victims of
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Saudi Arabian weapons. Yeah, buying those ambulances, how dare they.
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Um, and then, um. Nope. No, they were like, hey, sorry that there was a video
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that you saw a woman's arm and stomach. Sorry you saw Carmela.
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Yeah, you saw Carmela's, uh, stomach and, and super nice butt.
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Sorry. Man. Um, but yeah, and it's just, you know,
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it's just, and they, they got, uh, I'm hearing,
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like, hundreds of millions. Undoubtedly. Um, I, uh, you hear the, the stat thrown
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around of, like, 25 million or 60 million about the single event.
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Sure. But considering it's part of a 10-year deal, like, it's outrageous to
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imagine it's not in the hundreds of millions.
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But, I mean, I don't know. I see, I see two sides of it, kind of, with the, like,
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hey, maybe this will work to help make things better in the future.
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But I also don't trust that when it's a company run by crazy Vince McMahon.
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Right. And his, uh, you know, his wife is in the Trump administration.
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Yeah. And they spend so much time doing,
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basically, Saudi propaganda on the actual show.
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It was so creepy. Also, though, and they keep talking about progress, but Dave,
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Dave Meltzer, who's, uh, you know, many will call the Dan Friesen of, uh,
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professional wrestling, uh, in the, in his, uh.
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I'm gonna change my, the name of the show to the Alex Jones Observer.
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Yeah. Yeah, it should be. Yeah. But the, uh, in, in, uh, in the current,
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uh, or the newest Wrestling Observer newsletter, um, he says three years ago,
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Sami Zayn wrestled in the country. Right.
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And then now he's not allowed back in. So it's like, how's that progress?
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You know, that's not certainly because he bought some ambulances for the
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circumstances have changed a bit, you know, in terms of severity of the situation.
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Sure. I don't know, man. I think it's, uh, kind of foolish to think of, uh,
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it being like a tool for progress considering the anti-progressive people behind it.
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Yeah. What did you, what did you think of those pictures of like the
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Undertaker and Kurt Angle and Brock and very surreal.
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I saw like a GIF of it on the table. What the fuck?
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Kind of one of those things where like, I imagine like the Undertaker and like
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Kurt Angle are taking a piss and he's just like, what did we get ourselves
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into this time, Kurt brother? I should have shown up as the American
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bad-ass. I think it's weird. I've had, um, some people comment on it
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because there's, uh, there's a, there's some wrestling fans in our audience.
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And some people have said that like, it's pretty wild. The idea that they allowed
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the Iranian flag to be flown. Yeah. So I know that Devari's I know, I know
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personally, the brother Sean was, he was, was he the one who played the
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terrorist years ago as Muhammad Hassan's manager. Oh, okay. Who's the manager.
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Yeah. And the mouthpiece. And they were, you know, so, and, uh, that introduces
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a whole nother layer. Sure. Sure. So he, uh, he has, he's been on TV
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pushing buttons for a long, long time. Um, but yeah, they went there and then
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Aria had to put out a tweet like, Hey, I just play a role to kill him. Yeah.
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So, I mean, and you know, but there's still probably a part of every wrestler
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who's like, hell yeah. Someone wanted to threaten my life. Like, yeah. You know,
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I still think there's that part of wrestling who it's like, fuck yeah, it's
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still real to me. Damn it. People still want to kill me. I felt that way as a
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college columnist when I was writing shit, when I get death threats, I'm like,
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yeah, I'm making waves. Well, and then, but this isn't the kind of way. No, no.
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Cause they, they did, uh, uh, TNA did, uh, in India, ring cut King a couple
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years ago. It's Pakistanis come out and well, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure
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they had like that, that same whole thing of like, Hey, we're from the
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country. You don't like, we're the bad guys. It's these city, like they do
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that in America a lot with cities or the new age outlaws were famous for it.
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We're in Chicago. Okay. We're coming out in Brett Favre, jerseys back in the
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day, but they're also going to call every cheese head. Like I know I've
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brought this up and I apologize for using that word, but like I brought this
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up with you that like going back and watching that stuff is shocking. Just
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the signs alone. We'll be well, I'll show Sarah, uh, some old stuff and I'll
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be like, Oh, you gotta watch like the rise of stone cold or this crazy match
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they had or whatever. And as we're watching it every once in a while, she'll
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be like, Oh my God, what does that sign say? And I'll like pause it and it'll
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be like the worst sign ever. Absolutely. It's cringe-worthy. Yeah, it really is.
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Um, but, uh, yeah, but using that same like method of getting heat on somebody
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or whatever is pointless when it's a one-off super show. And second when it's
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countries that are killing each other. I think that's when it's like, yeah,
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you've gotten a little too far there. Also, it's not like, it's not like
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there's a literal turf war between these two sports teams in America. So what
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everybody's kind of trying to wrap their head around is, you know, cause they
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were, there was that Sumo guy and they're like, what was that guy doing
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there? And they're like, well, they wanted Yokozuna, but they're like, well,
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he's dead. So we'll book this Sumo. That makes that booking tough. Now, wait,
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wait, you mean the Saudis wanted Yokozuna? Yes. Oh, okay. So, and it is kind of
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funny. Like I have a couple of friends who are just like, I thought you meant
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the bookers wanted. No, no, no, no. Like, but it is funny too. Cause like I
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was, I was talking to my buddy, Mike O'Keefe, who's a comedy comedian and
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wrestling fan. And he was like, do you ever just think there's like some like,
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like little Saudi prince, you know, boy, who's just like, and I want this
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match and I want this match and I want 50 men in the Royal rumble. And just
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like, he's booking it on his own. So I'm like, uh, uh, damn it. I can't
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remember the names of the kids from Willy Wonka, whatever. There you go.
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Let's call it that one could, I'm surprised there wasn't Beauregard. Never
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mind. Okay. I'm surprised there wasn't a title change there. Right. Yeah. But
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also with, with those guys, they could have had anyone come out and been like,
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Oh, you think you can cut it here? You you're from Saudi Arabia. You're not
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going to cut it here. And they could have done that. But I mean, when I saw
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that, I was like, Oh shit. They could have gotten like the anti or the bad guy
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heat on a villain from America. And then it got in the exact same effect.
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Sure. But as opposed to it being a set piece now where it's kind of anti
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Iranian and pro Saudi Arabia, uh, as a, as a set piece, as a skit, that's
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weird territory to walk into. Especially when again, the company is
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owned by someone who's married to a member of Trump's cabinet. I don't
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know. And I still, I still give. Uh, like Linda a pass. Cause I still think
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she's a nice lady and I'm like, Oh, she's Linda. She's the homeless
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harmless one of all, you know, she's not like Betsy DeVos or something
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like that. I'm like, she's just Linda. This is leftover sympathy from that
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time when was drugging her. Yeah, exactly. Now I will say though, it is
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kind of funny that she is the secretary of small business and uh, and they
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make all their wrestlers, uh, sign up as independent contractors and don't
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give them insurance. And they've put so many small businesses in the form of
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wrestling companies out of business. And when they roll into town, they'll,
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they'll, you know, tell those cities like, Hey, don't let other places have
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any of these arenas, no compete stuff, you know, real small business-y stuff.
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Sure. Sure. You know, you're not, but we still watch Dan and we still
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listen to Alex. Yeah. I still watch a little bit still. Uh, uh, but I, I
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haven't watched much of Alex in modern day for the last week or so. Cause I,
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I just came to a moment where I was like, everything is a distraction.
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Sure. Everything is bullshit. This is all nonsense. And so like, I, we have
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people asking and posting on our group on Facebook about like, Oh my God,
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he's getting in a fight with Ben Shapiro. Oh my God, he's pretending he
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has Kanye West coming on the show. Yeah. And I keep trying to express to
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people and everyone has the right to enjoy whatever they want. That's fine.
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But like, this is nothing. This is all a distraction. Sure. There are real
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issues going on and not, there's no content on his show anymore.
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Now, as far as I can tell, it feels real. Like, let's just open up the
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couple of web pages and see what's going on. We'll talk about it. Yeah.
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Drudge. What I've asked you this before. What do you think Drudge thinks of
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Alex? I think he thinks he's an idiot. Okay. Cause Alex makes it seem like
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they're boys. Drudge came on Alex's show in 2015 and did a little appearance
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from the shadows. He refused to be on camera, but he had a mic and he was
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off camera somewhere. And he was telling Alex, like, he just doesn't
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want to be on camera today. He's a very secretive man. Even though there's
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pictures of him on the internet. But like, he was telling Alex all this
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unbelievable bullshit. Like one of the things he actually told Alex was that
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when the powers that be, the globalists, created ISIS. I thought you meant
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Vince Russo at Ferrari and WCW. No, the other ones. Again, wrestling and
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the globalists overlap a lot with the New World Order. Very much so. The right
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to censor is certainly relevant now with YouTube. You bet. There are
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violations. But he was telling Alex that when they created ISIS, they named
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it ISIS because they were trying to demonize Daryl Isa, who's in Congress
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and was an enemy of the regime. That's fun. And he couldn't even keep a
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straight face while he was telling Alex's, but he wasn't joking. He was
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trying to get Alex to take the bait on the narrative. Yeah. And it's pretty
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clear that he looks at Alex as someone who he's got to patronize a little bit
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with throwing links and stuff like that. Sure, like Roger Stone. But he's
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super usable. Yeah. I think that's the relationship they have. I think
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another thing, too, is after watching that Roger Stone documentary that
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really bummed me out about a lot of stuff, and I'm just like... There's
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times where I'll... We talked about this before. I'm just like, man, these
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shows should have you on to just be in someone's ear when they're
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interviewing Alex. That's not true. Megyn Kelly was interviewing him. You
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could have been just like, hey, tell him that's not true and ask him if
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that was the case. Why did he say this? And you think, wow. I bet a lot of
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instances like that Megyn Kelly interview. Yeah. I bet there are a
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number of instances of her saying the right questions. Sure. And then it
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led to nothing. And then when they edit it, they have to make it look
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somewhat presentable. Yeah. And I just think... I don't know why there isn't
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any media training for... I don't know. Maybe there's... Just study that
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Roger Stone documentary. Be like, this is why they can trick you guys so
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much. That's why I enjoy watching... There's no good face. They're all
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lying. I feel so bad. I always forget his name. Who's the guy on... Not
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Sam Seder, but his other guy. Michael Brooks. That guy knows how to
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handle those fucking people. He does. He's great. Yeah. He's very, very
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smart. And smart enough. Yep. Yeah. To where at first I'm like, I don't
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think I like this guy. Then I'm like, I like this guy. And the details of
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policy, like that the him and Seder both are really good and really ends
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up getting people trapped. Sure. Like, especially particularly
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libertarians, whenever they have conversations with them, they always
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get stuck in some pretty big problem with libertarian ideology. Who's
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gonna pay for the roads? We don't need roads, baby. Jetpacks. Where we're
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going, we don't need roads. Have you watched that entire libertarian
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debate? No. God, I recommend everybody watch it. It's one of the funniest
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things I've ever seen in my life. It's too long. Yeah. But man, it's
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hilarious. Well, you have to do a Patreon exclusive for it. It's five
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lunatics. Oh, fuck. Just out lunatic-ing each other. Yeah. Or even the
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rent's too damn high, guys. Like, this is... I can't. About. This is
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dumb. John McAfee trying to sound real relevant. Yeah. Smart. Who and...
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Gary Johnson. His name's so boring, I forget it. He ran. He did. Yeah. But
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he seems so reasonable standing with those other four ding dongs. Also,
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shout out to Glenn Jacobs, who won the Republican nomination. Funny you
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should bring that up. We've been dancing around. Talking about
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libertarians. We've been dancing around libertarians. We have. Wrestling
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and Alex Jones. And the intersection of those three things is an episode
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of Alex Jones' show that happened in 2013. No. Marty, I'm going to play
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this first clip for you. Let's see what you think about this. Glenn
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Jacobs has worked for the World Wrestling Entertainment for almost 20
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years. He is well-known around the world under his stage name Kane. He
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has also been in a lot of different big movies and television shows.
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He's a libertarian or thought criminal who discovered and became a
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devout student of Austrian economics, as we are as well. But Lou Rockwell
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yesterday, the head of the Von Mies Institute, a number of years ago, he
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is the co-founder of the Tennessee Liberty Alliance, a free market
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educational organization. Glenn tries to use his fame in pop culture to
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spread the message of liberty and sound economics. Does he? He's written
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articles for the future of Freedom Foundation, lourockwell.com, The Daily
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Caller, as well as appearing on various television programs. And he
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joins us now following on Twitter at Jacobs Report. And he is with us
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today. Wow. Great to have you on. I love the speech that I saw you give
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at the Libertarian Committee meeting on C-SPAN. And I would love to just
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give you the floor to talk about Obamacare and the attacks on free
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speech and the TSA now rolling out on the streets of America. Great to
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have you with us, sir. Great to be here, Alex. Thanks for having me.
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That'd be funny if you had the voice mod. Thank you, Alex. It's good to
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be here. Just kidding. I don't need that. My character did that years
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ago. I like to joke around and have fun. I like to have fun. You might
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have seen me and Daniel Bryan do some very fun things. We do some
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comedy from time to time. I would also love it if you did this interview
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in kayfabe or he would have the mask or anything, but no bad news.
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Kane appears on Alex Jones' show. He's corporate Kane, right? He's very
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corporate Kane. Okay. What year is this? This is 2013. Okay. So actually
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I was trying to figure out, I didn't have enough time. He's got the
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shaved head. Yes. Okay. I didn't have enough time to look into
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exactly the storyline he would have been involved in, in 2013. Well,
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2013, probably... Would that be the Daniel Bryan years? No, that was
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like 2015 maybe. Okay. I don't know. I could be wrong, but that was
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like, I think that was like around 20... Well, actually maybe we might be
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getting into that. This might've been a... I feel bad. This might be
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anger management years? Oh, it might be the Zach Ryder, John Cena. Oh,
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the love triangle. Love triangle. Love quadrangle. Yeah, possibly. I
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mean, who knows? Whatever it was or something stupid. Sure. I'm going
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to predict. Sure. Based on my knowledge of Kane's storylines from
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years past, I'm going to guess real dumb. Yeah. So did you know that
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Kane had appeared on Alex Jones' show? I did not, but I am not
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surprised. I know he had been on other shows. I think he's been on
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Hannity before. That's crazy. So that might be the variety of shows
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he's talking about. It might be. Yeah, it might be. Because whenever
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I heard him talking about a wrestler and saying he's appeared on a
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bunch of shows, he's, you know, all that, I always thought like you
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could give that credit to like John Bradshaw Lightfield and it would
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fuel... Well, he's been on Fox News a bunch. A bunch? Yeah. And he had
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his own like syndicated radio show where he talked about economics
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and stuff like that. Yeah. I would've felt like that would be more
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credible, but we got the demon. The devil's favorite demon.
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It's so fucking weird. It's wild. So in that clip, you would've
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heard Alex say that Kane... I'm not going to call him Glenn.
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Okay, let's stick with kayfabe, he's Kane. Kane had an awakening
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due to the Austrian School of Economics and the Von Mies Institute,
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which by the way is just the Mies Institute. Alex doesn't have the
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name right. But I expected that you wouldn't know what that is.
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It sounds, and I'm going to be a real Xenophobic American, sounds
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like it might be evil. It's not so much evil as it is, I think,
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stupid. Okay, good. And maybe some of the effects of it end up
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being evil, but I'm going to give you a quick rundown of the
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Austrian school here. So just here's the too long, didn't read
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version of it up top. These guys are a bunch of fucking dicks.
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Okay. The roots of the Austrian school seems mostly based in a
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strong hatred of FDR and some of his social programs. And what
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they basically are just against collectives larger than the
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state, which is right in line with libertarian thinking.
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I always have real trouble trying to understand, like, why
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do you hate the federal government but like the state?
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When what is the federal government but just an
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amalgamation of states? Shouldn't you hate the city or
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the state and like the city? And then what about the district
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and the city or the household? That's what you really come
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down to is they want everyone to have their own laws, more or
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less. Sure, that works. So the Austrian school of economics,
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they subscribe to the Austrian business cycle theory, which
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states that central banks control the business cycle
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through intentional booms and busts by manipulating interest
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rates. When they make the interest rates low, it triggers
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banks to give out a lot of credit to people, which creates
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a bubble destined to burst and that leads to a recession.
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Central banks are the evil ones, but they failed to mention
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that there were tons of cycles before the Federal Reserve or
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central banks were ever introduced. The solution that
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they generally offer predictably is to buy gold. Peter Schiff,
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who is a frequent guest on Alex Jones' show, is a
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prominent Austrian-style economic commentator. Not
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surprisingly, he has his own gold sale operation. Hey. Also,
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you know, he is a frequent guest on Alex's show, which is
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syndicated by a man who owns a gold and silver sale company
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for 20 years. You know who another famous gold salesman is?
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Kane? Not close. He's broken a lot of guitars in the wrestling
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business. Wait, are you talking about Double J? I am talking
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about Double J. Slap nuts gold. Double J was starting Global
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Force Wrestling. Yeah. And it was it was gaining some
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momentum. People were like, what's it going to be? Jared's the
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king of like, he can just get **** done. He can. He is the
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guy to get **** done. His wrestling career has just been
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amazing in the fact of like outside of the WWE's bubble,
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he's made it work everywhere. He's gone. He's gotten TV
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deals. He's back in the WWE. It's crazy. But but even within
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I remember you telling me that story a while back because I
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was watching back through. I don't remember. I think it was
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like a match. Yeah. Yeah. And about how he extorted the WWE
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to pay him a bunch of money because they forgot his
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contract. They forgot his contract was ending. He had the
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intercontinental title. He was in a feud with China and they
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were going to have this good housekeeping match which is
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which was embarrassing. Very embarrassing for everyone and
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he was like, hey, if I'm going to lose to China. Just going to
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hit me with a mop. I'm going to need a lot of money and he was
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kind of like, look, the way I see it, I basically made him
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pay him like a year's worth of he's like, I need in good fit
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and he was like, till the wife was like, yep, it's in the bank
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account. He's like, alright, let's do it. Wrestled, got in a
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car in his gear all covered and you know, all that stuff but
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that's that's making your career work. Yeah. But with
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Global Force Wrestling, there was going to be this big
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announcement and and then with the big announcement was just
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like, hey, buy gold from Global Force. I vaguely remember that.
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It was everyone's like, oh no and I remember like knowing
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people that work there and I'm like, guys, what? And they're
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like, we didn't, I, what are you going to do? It wasn't me.
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Yeah, I didn't do this. So, yeah, it's surprisingly that
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didn't take off. It's pretty crazy but you start to notice
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this real trend of what they call gold buggery. We're just
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selling gold and not to be confused with skullduggery. No,
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but there are similarities. Yeah. In terms of being sort of
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nefarious actions. The all over these conspiracy and
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libertarian worlds, you'll just find people who are telling you
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to buy gold. It's the only safe thing to do and then you
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scratch beneath the surface a little bit and you find a
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financial interest in gold companies. Sure. And it's like
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I I huh it's weird but we're going to talk a little bit more
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about that a little bit later. Okay. Because I did some
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looking into it and I found the roots of that sort of behavior
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and it's. Will Alex slip in that he's a tough guy? Wait,
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that Alex is a tough guy? Is Alex going to slip into to
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Kane like, well, you know, I've been I've been in my my fair
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share of fights. I'm going to take you on an inferno match.
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Will he, here's what I'm looking at. If I'm doing my
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Alex bingo card. Mm hmm. He's going to mention that, you
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know. You want to make a bingo card? Yeah. He's been in some
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fights. Uh. He's going to mention the Von Erichs in Texas.
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No, the Von Mises. The Von, well, I think he's going to
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also mention the Von Erichs. I'll put the Von Erichs up against the
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Von Mises. Um I think he's going to mention, you know, like the
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Rock and Stone Cold Hulk and he might ask like where the
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Hulkster is. You know what? You would not get bingo. No. I'll
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tell you that right now. Okay. But I won't. Is he sticking to
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not wrestling stuff? I don't know. I don't want to give it
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away. Alright. Alright. Alright. We got a bit of
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territory left. Take it away. So, back to the Austrian School
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real quick. Uh they uh what makes them different than other
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people, other like uh schools of economics like the Chicago
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School or any of these other uh schools of thought is that they
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believe that individual choices and actions are the only
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relevant factors in economics and thus, they reject the
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importance of statistics and economic modeling. I reject
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your statistics. Exactly. It's crazy because they believe that
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society can't act because society isn't a person and only
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persons act. Yeah. Like, oh boy. Okay. Fine. Whatever. They
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generally reject empirical evidence uh and some would
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argue that this is being willfully obtuse uh but they
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they do this uh because they think that uh statistics and
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empirical evidence are biased because people make decisions
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that cannot be captured by statistics and models. In
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reality, they do this because this is not a school of
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economics. It's a front to push severe and ridiculous
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libertarian politics out as an economic theory. Yeah. When you
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look into it a little bit, most of the players such as Lou
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Rockwell and Murray Rothbard, uh those are two major players
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in the uh Austrian School of Economics. Uh they are have
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mysterious ties to right wing organizations like the Cato
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Institute and deeply uh troubling ties to the John
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Birch Society. I'm going to read you a quote uh about
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Rothbard here. Rothbard, Barry Rothbard, the late Rothbard
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who described himself as a member of the old Wright
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faction since 1946. His name is Barry Roth. There's a comic
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named Barry Rothbard. No, I think it's Rothbard. Oh, Rothbard.
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That's Barry Rothbard. This is Murray Rothbard. Oh Murray. I
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might have misspoken. Okay. Okay. Um so he uh describes
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himself as a member of the old Wright faction since 1946 was a
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Jewish New Yorker who supported Strom Thurmond State's Rights
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Party in 1948. The moaning the neoconservative success in
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establishing themselves as the only right wing alternative to
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the left. Rothbard called for a resurgence of the old right to
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quote repeal the 20th century. He later molded a paleo
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alliance uh limited to what he considered good libertarians.
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As described uh in the 1990 issue of the John Birch
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Society's New American magazine, this would mean
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purging undesirable elements from the libertarian party
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including quote hippies, druggies, antinomians, and
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militantly anti-Christian atheists. If you don't know
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what he's talking about Bill Maher. If you don't know what
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antinomians are, they're people who believe uh in the New
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Testament of the Bible specifically that Jesus' grace
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and sacrifice were a fulfillment of the law and
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freed people from Moses' Old Testament laws. He wants to
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purge people from the party who don't subscribe to Old
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Testament law. Well, that sounds very like much like
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those libertarian values I've heard so much about.
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Absolutely. Do what you want to do. Just. Don't eat shellfish.
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Don't eat shellfish. Don't get tattoos. Oh no. In 1995, uh the
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Mies Institute held a conference to debate the
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viability of states seceding from the Union which they are
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really into. They are super into. Sure. So the Mies
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Institute is based on uh major player uh and one of the uh I
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would say intellectual grandfathers of the uh. Major
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player sounds like a no limit soldier. So does skullduggery.
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Oh wait. That actually was one. Oh yeah. Um uh Ludwig von
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Mies was a major player in the. Just gave you a weird look.
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Thank you. Uh in the Austrian School of Economics and so the
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Mies Institute was named after him and it's sort of the one of
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the big uh think tanks uh publishing houses for these
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weirdo libertarian ideas masquerading as a school of
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economic thought and II don't know. I wanna. I read a bunch
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of like posts by the Mies Institute. They're like sort of
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policy positions. Okay. And I wanna read some of these to
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you but if I read all of them, it's going to be too much.
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Okay. So give me the greatest hits. I'm gonna know what I'm
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gonna do is I'm gonna read you one. Okay. And then we're gonna
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listen to some more a little bit later. I'll read you
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another one of their policies and so you can hear just how
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**** stupid these people are. Okay. So I'm gonna start with
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uh their take on A Christmas Carol. Oh okay. You know you
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know that uh classic Christmas movie. Sure. You got Scrooge.
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Yeah. You got the ghosts. You got Marley. Yeah. It kinda
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shows you you know it's money and being alone isn't worth it
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and it's nice. It's better to give them to receive and it's
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not the message they took away from it. Oh no. Satanic. No.
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they're really into like it being cool to be a miser and to
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store money because they believe basically that if you
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save money, that's investment in future things which is good
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when in reality, they're just people gathering up billions of
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dollars that isn't being circulated and right doesn't
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help anybody. Right. Um so they believe that actually that Bob
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Cratchit, the employee is the villain of uh A Christmas
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Carol. Separating Scrooge from his money. No. By saying like
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look at these. Because he's a kid. He's making undue demands
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just by virtue of his existence on Scrooge who has every right
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to his money. So here's a quote from their write up about it.
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Okay. So let's look without preconceptions that Scrooge is
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allegedly underpaid clerk Bob Cratchit. The fact is if
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Cratchit's skills were worth more to anyone than the fifteen
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shilling Scrooge pays him weekly, there would be someone
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glad to offer it to him. Since no one has and since
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Cratchit's profit-maximizing boss is hardly a man to pay for
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nothing, Cratchit must be worth exactly his present wages. No
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doubt Cratchit needs i.e. wants more to support his family and
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care for Tiny Tim but Scrooge did not force Cratchit to
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father children. He's having difficulty supporting. If
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Cratchit had children while suspecting he would be unable
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to afford them, he, not Scrooge, is responsible for their
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plight and if Cratchit didn't know how expensive they would
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be, why must Scrooge assume the burden of Cratchit's
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misjudgment? As for that one lump of coal Scrooge allows
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him, it bears emphasis that Cratchit has not been chained
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to his chilly desk. If he stays there, he shows by his
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behavior that he prefers his present wages plus comfort
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package to any other he has found or supposes himself
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likely to find. Actions speak louder than grumbling and the
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reader can hardly complain about what Cratchit evidently
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finds satisfactory. This sounds like what a really nice
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Republican would say to people working at McDonald's like if
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you don't like it, go get a better job. Exactly. No one's
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forcing you to work here. The fact that you stay wherever you
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are while you're being exploited means you're totally
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cool with it and so should we. Also stop having them dang
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kids. Yeah, especially ones that come out crippled like
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Tiny Tim. They come out tiny. Yeah. So Charles Dickens wrote
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Christmas Carol and one thing that's really fun is to look at
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Charles Dickens life. He was born into like a well to do
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family. Yeah, but then his dad spent way too much money and so
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in 1824, his dad, his father, John was committed to a debtors
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prison in London because he owed too much money. At that
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point, Dickens was 12 years old. He was forced to pawn his
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collection of books, leave school and go to work at a shoe
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lacking factory, a dirty and rat-infested factory. The
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change in Dickens circumstances gave him what his biography
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Michael Slater described as a deep personal and social
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outrage, which influenced his works because Charles Dickens
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lived the reality of these hypothetical **** things that
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these dumb **** at the Von Meese Institute are talking
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about. He had a trading places scenario with himself.
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Exactly. Everything was fine up till ten or so and then uh
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eight twelve, pawn those books and go black some shoes and uh
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say hi to the rats. Yeah. It's **** up. Then he took a gamble
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on himself with that book. Uh huh. And he he was correct.
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Absolutely. He uh. He saw that book himself. But he uh you
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know. But I understand what you're saying. His work ended
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up having like a really socially conscious bent to it
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because he experienced child labor. He experienced debtor
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prisons and stuff like that. It is kinda crazy how you can look
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at anything and be like, this is my my take on that and
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everybody else isn't just like, come on. Like somebody shared a
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meme on, are you off Facebook now? Um on it but only to
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really use our group. I don't really. That's smart. I don't
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engage much. Somebody posted uh a meme that clearly a lunatic.
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So, it was the guy who stopped the shooting at the Waffle
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House. Yeah. Yeah. And he had his hand bandage and they're
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like, this is the guy who stopped the the shooter at
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Waffle House. This black guy. Uh with his bare hands. So, next
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time a cop says, next time a liberal says you shouldn't be
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intimidated by a black male. Next time they tell a cop they
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shouldn't be intimidated by a black male. Oh boy. You think
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twice about that and it's like, whoa. That's the pivot. Whoa.
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That's a hot take. Yikes. Yeah. This is I mean. The guy who
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acted heroically in the face of death. Let's turn him into
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something to be scared of. They're super. They have
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superpowers and they should be feared. They're mutants. But
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that's the world we live in now. Sure. But even back then
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though, you have this just like, that's one of those things
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too where it's just like, I'd never let my kid watch that and
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you're like, why? And like, oh, because of this, this, and this
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and you're like, where did you get that? Oh, you mean Christmas
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Carol? Sure. You're like, yeah, why, why are they oppressing
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Scrooge like this? Yeah. Why is he being harassed by these
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ghosts? Yeah. And you're like, okay, there's some stuff that
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is kind of like over the top and you're just like, wow, yeah,
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that's a little, that is a little interesting. This is
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just like, I could see an argument against Christmas
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Carol in terms of like some of the materialism in it. Like,
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why are we fattening up a goose? Yeah. I don't know. I'm
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trying to riff some complaint. I don't really have one. I
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don't know. I don't like Christmas much. So, it's never
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been my favorite but yeah, this argument is **** stupid.
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Yeah. As is it turns out, Glenn Jacobs, also known as Kane.
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Yes. Uh so, Alex has introduced the uh the interview and uh
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here's what uh he's like, I wanna open the floor to you,
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Kane. What do you wanna talk about? So much to talk about.
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What do you wanna begin with? Uh we could spend 3 hours
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talking, couldn't we? Uh there's a lot of stuff. Why
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don't we talk about bitcoin actually? Cuz I find it rather
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fascinating especially the debate that's going on within
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uh libertarian and Austrian economic circles right now.
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Sure. Give us your take on it. Well, first of all, I think
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like everybody else, I like to see the development of
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something like bitcoin. I really like the idea of
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competing currencies. That's interesting. That's really fun
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that you like competing currencies, Glenn Jacobs, also
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known as Kane. I keep forgetting to call him Kane.
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Uh here here's the thing. Um everybody, I think
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libertarians love to talk about competing currencies and all
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this **** uh and they're like, oh, bitcoin is an opportunity
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to have a government-free currency. Bitcoin's like gold's
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little brother to them. Yeah, it's like uh electro gold.
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Sure. Or something like that. Spoiler alert. Uh in the
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Austrian School and the Mies Institute and and even um Kane
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is going to say this later. Like it's like oh uh bitcoin's
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great but gold by gold. That sort of thing. Um so in terms
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of competing currencies uh did you know that we've tried that
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before? No. We've tried this. Uh so early in our history,
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individual banks printed their own currencies uh which were
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exchangeable for gold and silver. Before the passage of
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the National Banking Act in 1863, up to 8000 different
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uh entities issued their own money. Just different banks.
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You just had tons of banks. You guys take uh Chase money
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here? Yeah. Exactly. But it wouldn't be Chase. It would be
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some smaller bank. Okay. Cuz there were there was a whole
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situation where like some states had um state charters
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for banks and then you had states like New York and
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there's a couple others that just had free banking and so
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you could just make up your own bank or whatever and when
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you did that, you'd have to print out some sort of
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promissory note in order to like have people have your
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currency. That sounds very confusing, Dan. It's chaos. It
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was absolute chaos in terms of interstate commerce. Cuz you'd
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have a situation where you're like, I've got a New York
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dollar here and it's worth X in New York. But if I go to
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Michigan, let's say, maybe they only accept it at a 70% rate.
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Yeah. Something like that. Then now your money is worth
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less in different places. Uh it's absolutely insane. Also,
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uh who knows who honors what currency? Sure. You know, like
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you might end up in a place where you got tons of bucks.
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Like, I got tons of Tennessee bucks. Are they going to be
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honored at every store in West Virginia? Who **** knows? Who
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knows? Oh, also, it was comically easy to counterfeit
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money. You think so? Back then. Cuz there's so many. Of
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course. So many **** currencies that. Look at a bouncer. Look
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at an ID from Indiana here in Illinois. They look at it like
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what the **** is this? Yeah. Any fake is good out of state.
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Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. You can you can't possibly train
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people to be able to tell the like this is valid currency.
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It's just complete madness. So, of course, uh this National
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Banking Act of 1863 happened in 1863 which was right in the
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middle of the Civil War. So, historical revisionists look
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back on the act as an attempt by Lincoln to centralize power
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and end states rights. When in reality, it was trying to save
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uh the entire country. Trying to knock off some ****
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Interesting bit of trivia though, Marty. Uh the
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Confederate states also printed money and on their bills, they
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weirdly featured pictures of slaves which uh kind of hurts
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their argument that slavery was not an important piece of the
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secession. Also, two US presidents were featured on
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their money. Two presidents who mysteriously the right wing
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and Alex Jones. Uh it's their favorites. George Washington
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and Andrew Jackson were on confederate money. Whoa. Yeah.
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Why did they put slaves on the money? I think they is uh the
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pictures that I've seen made it look idyllic. You know, like
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it made it look like slavery wasn't so bad. Oh, okay. Gave
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it sort of a Kanye West feel. Kanye West vibe. Yeah, if you
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wanna go that route. Also, in terms of bitcoin, bitcoin has
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lost almost 50% of its value in the last 5 months. Sell now
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guys. Uh also uh that is after a 1000% increase in value in
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the 5 months before that. It's a completely inconsistent
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currency. It's very dangerous and if you don't have money to
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lose, you should not be touching it. Yeah. Uh but
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that's all to say we've tried competing currencies before and
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it does not work. Okay. It doesn't it's not um there's
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even more uh evidence of this. If you're if you're Kane and
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Alex just kind of like have you he has you on his show. Yeah.
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And then he's just like, so, what do you wanna talk about?
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When you gotta be like, I don't know, man. It's your show. Why
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don't you **** figure it out? Why don't you give me some
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direction? To be fair, Alex did give him like seven topics and
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then just say, say something. Yeah, okay. Um but also, uh so
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the another thing with this uh this monopoly of currency thing
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is the Federal Reserve System and uh you know, the
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libertarians **** and hate that Federal Reserve **** um but the
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thing that's interesting to think about is that uh the
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reason that the Federal Reserve exists is that between 1836 and
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1913, we didn't have a central bank. The second American uh
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banks charter ended until 1913. We didn't start up another one
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which comes in the form of the Federal Reserve System which
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isn't one bank. It's twelve district banks uh that are run
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by a board. Jewish bankers. Right. There's that's another
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**** thing. Not the Jewish part but like all these Ron Paul
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types are like we need to audit the fed and like they do audit
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them. Just not as deeply as you might want. Mm hmm. It's not
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like they're not being audited at all. Like, hey, there might
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be no money in there or something like that but so
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here's the thing. The reason that it started in 1913 is
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because we have major financial panics in 1873 which lasted a
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couple of years. 1884, 18 uh eighty-three uh nineteen uh I
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got 188893. I think I juxtaposed a couple of numbers
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there. Okay. Uh huh. 1884, 1893, 1901, 1903, and the there
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was a huge one in 1907. Since 1913, we've only had uh truly
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three major financial panics in 100 years as opposed to the
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six that we experienced in that 34-year span. Okay. It is
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done incredibly well. It's a good ratio. In terms of
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stabilizing uh the effects that you have with uh you know, hey,
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this money goes up. This money goes down. What are you gonna
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do? How are you gonna protect people? The financial uh the
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federal reserve system has done a spectacular job. Other
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complaints that you could make about it, some of them might be
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valid but in terms of like protecting people and their
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assets and stuff, it's done. It's like a wonderful job.
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Goldberg-esque winning percentage. It is. It is. And
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now Alex is trying to come in with a cattle prod. Anyway, um
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so at this point, uh uh Kane is gonna say a little bit more
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about Bitcoin. Okay. Nevertheless, I have some
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problems with Bitcoin myself so that other people in the hard
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money camp have. First of all, money comes to the market and
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emerges on the market. It isn't like someone just says, hey,
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this is money. Let's start using it. What? What? I think
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that the reason that people are going into Bitcoin is exactly
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because of what it isn't. It's not the dollar. It's not the
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euro. It's not the yen. Whereas if we look at something like
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precious metals, the gold and silver, yeah, we can argue they
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don't have intrinsic value from a theoretical economic
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perspective and that's true. Nevertheless, they have a
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6,000-year history of being money, of being desired for
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people, of being desired by people. People want the
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precious metals because of what they are and I really feel that
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Bitcoin is sort of taking a lot of the interest that would be
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in the metals and and diverting it. Like I said, that's great
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in the idea that it's it's a competing currency but
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nevertheless, I don't think it's the competing currency
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that does have the ability to break the state's monopoly on
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the issuance of money. Of course not. Very well said. Plus,
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they can use the unknown providence of this. They can
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use the take down of Bitcoin to then demonize and taint the
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idea of true independent cryptocurrencies. That's all
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I'm saying is this may not have a happy ending and I'm not in
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some cult just saying it's perfect. We gotta bow down to
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it. We've gotta have some concerns investing in anything
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especially something brand new and speculative. Other than
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gold. Do we have any concerns about investing in anything
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other than gold? Gold rules. Gold is pretty great. We all
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know. Gold's great. Sure. Sure. Goldberg again. We're back
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to that. I don't know, man. I uh I think that they're trying
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to sort of dance around the issue that all cultures have
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valued precious metals. Yeah. We're not taking into account
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that like a lot of them didn't have a monetary value for them.
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They just valued them cuz they were shiny. They were cool.
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Yeah. They look good. So, you'd end up with cultures I mean,
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even in fairly modern times, it would have gold that would
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just be like uh it's a necklace. Yeah. You know like I
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don't think this is valuable. I just think it looks nice or
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whatever but I don't know. You own gold? Uh no. Tell me about
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your gold, bro. I don't have any gold. No gold? No. The way
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you look off to the side makes me think you got a lot. You
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just don't want me to know. Never mind. I got I've got some
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coins. Um the idea of going back to the gold standard is
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really appealing to these people like Kane and Alex Jones
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which is a weird grouping that I never thought we'd we'd deal
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with. Do you think there's some like bit of a uh doomsday
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prepper type of mentality roped in there? No, they're victims
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of. Do they really think they could live in like the society
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we live in and be like, how much is that? Uh let me give you
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some gold. Like. They're victims of a centuries-long con
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basically. Okay. Um some of it comes from the fact that in the
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early times like in the late 1700s and early 1800s, uh the
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United States did print coin that was made out of actual
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gold. Okay. And so there's sort of a belief I think on their
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parts that there will be some standardization of the gold
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being printed and uh made into coin. Yeah. And that way it
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would be exchangeable in the same way that nickels and dimes
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were in the 1800s. So I think that they think that on some
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level but then you would need to be able to make your own
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coin as opposed to chipping off a little block of gold or
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whatever. You have like a brick and you just uh. Yeah. Bing,
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ding, ding, ding. Let's assume gold bars. Yeah. But I mean
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there are ways to integrate stuff. You know, like you have
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bitcoin ATMs around some places now. So that allows you to
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like. Really? Exchange your bitcoin for cash. Wow. But
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you're still getting cash. Yeah. So it's still only a
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secondary way for you to get. Do you have any bitcoin? Oh,
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**** no. Have you ever seen a bitcoin? So, I mean, they're
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not physical. Are they? Our friend Far Out, uh big shout
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out to Far Out. Uh he has a little bitcoin that he. Okay.
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Someone gave him. A little bit. Someone gave it to him like a
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long time ago and now it's worth a bit. So like that kind
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of thing is I mean it's not it's he's not a millionaire.
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Sure, sure, sure. I'm kind of **** off that I didn't buy when
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it was like 35 cents. Yeah. Let's hold on to it now. Yeah.
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Get out 5 months ago and it was. Oh man. Almost 20 grand.
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Yeah, there clearly were some people who made out great. I
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think there were. Yeah. I've seen a lot of. I mean based on
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the fact that it's dropped 50% cents. Yeah. I would have to
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assume there's a lot of people who cashed out. This is when I
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was going to buy some WWE stock when it was like $6 a share.
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Mm hmm. Now, it's up to like, I don't know. What do you, I
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don't even know. Should I look at it? Yeah, look it up. So, I
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check on that. See, oh, I wonder if it's gone up since.
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It was like thirty something but I think it might even be
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higher now. Do you think the the Saudi Arabia show helped
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their stock? Possibly. 40.87. Okay. So, yeah, it's up. Look
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at this. Over the last year. What? I just, it's doubled in
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about a year. Well, they have, they're like announcing a new
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TV deal. Yeah. So, they're, everybody's very excited about
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that. It but it's still pretty, pretty nice. A nice double on
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your investment over a year. You think they're going to stay
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in USA? What's that? You think they're going to stay in USA? I
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have no idea how to answer that question. I understand what
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you're talking about but I have no idea. I have, I have no
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insight into it. I mean, what would they do? Well, they want
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to go to Fox? They want that Fox is a possibility. ESPN is a
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possibility. ESPN is not a possibility. Yeah. No way.
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Play? No way. ESPN's in play. ESPN is not in play. They're in
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play. I can't imagine that. It would be ESPN like four or
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something like that. I can't, I cannot believe. The rumor is
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with Fox that Raw would go on Fox. Okay. Not the cable
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channel. The. Straight up Fox. Straight up Fox. So, like your
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local Fox affiliate. After Raw, coming up after Raw. We've got
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the news. We've got. Local news after Raw. Local news after Raw.
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You got Michael Cole telling you to tune in for WGN's lineup.
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That's it. So, that's a possibility with Smackdown going
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to like FS1 which is like their sports channel that's never
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really taken off. Um they they left USA. That would be pretty
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shitty to do to Smackdown. You know, cuz you'd just be sort of
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leaving them in a lurch. It's the B brand anyway. They always
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treat them that way. Please. They that's why they're just
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live now. Mm hmm. Years after it's been on for 20 years. Not
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most. But it wasn't the whole time, right? Didn't it go away
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and come back? No, no, it was. It's been on. Oh. Time. Hmm.
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But it's never been live. The fact that I didn't know that
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means something. But. The fact that I thought it was just gone
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for maybe five, six years of that time. They left for a
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little. They were on Spike TV for a minute. Well, they went
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to TNN. Oh, the Nashville Network. That became the
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national network. Right. Then it became Spike TV. Right. And
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then Spike Lee tried to get involved. Spike Lee got very angry.
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Stop using my name. And the government was like, come on,
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Spike. And I can't. But. Copyright Spike. When they
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decided to go back to the USA Network, they were having their
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last Raw. This last, this Raw was a **** show because they
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kept mentioning we'll be on USA and they kept. So then Spike
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started beeping him out. Mm hmm. They're like, we're going
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to be on USA Network. Oh, okay. Okay. Wow. And then they brought
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out Hacksaw at Jim Duggan so everyone chanted USA. That's
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great. Yeah, they anticipated that and they're like, how can
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we get them to chant USA a whole bunch? It's like, bring
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out Hacksaw. That's strategic thinking. Yeah. I I respect the
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hell out of that. Yeah. So, and then they went back to the USA
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Network and they've been there for a while. They'll probably
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stay with USA but who knows? Seems like a long-standing
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relationship. I don't know. Well, they help each other
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because they bring in big ratings so USA could say
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they're the number one or one of the top cable channels.
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That's what the. There's a lot of USA content is not great.
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Well, there's those shows that I assume I can't imagine people
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watch but they do. People are like, oh, Suits. I love Suits.
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Come on. I love. I love. Just because that lady married the
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the prince. Sure. Doesn't mean the show is good. Or Monk was a
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big hit back in the day. Monk was huge. Monk was huge.
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Suits. You just said Suits. Oh, Suits. I can't think of any
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other dumb shows. Monk, Suits, Mr. Robot, Psych, Psych. Psych
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was on USA, right? Um yeah. Burn Notice. Burn Notice. That
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was a big Burn Notice was a big hit. But here's the thing.
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I've never seen any of these. I've seen a couple Monks.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's like, I can name
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shows but I have no **** idea what they are. And that's what
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USA is full of. USA instead of Characters Welcome. That which
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I don't think there's a slogan anymore. What was that show
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where Breckin Meyer was a doctor? Uh something like not
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not Doc Hollywood. That was a Michael J Fox movie. But it was
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something like that where he was like a Hollywood doctor.
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Something like that. Royal Pains. Royal Pains. Yeah.
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Probably wasn't it but it might be another show. I think it was
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the guy from Road Trip. Paulo Costanzo. What is that? Who is
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the stoner from Road Trip? He was gay who who equated
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everything to wrestling at the end when he helped explain to
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Breckin Meyer what the royal rump like. Cuz he was really
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high all the time in like wrestling. Yeah. He was the guy
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who wasn't DJ Qualls. No. And wasn't Tom Green. Right. Yeah.
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Um. Paulo Costanzo. Wow. Also star of Josie and the Pussy
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Cats. Oh wow. Star is really putting it strongly. Yeah.
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Fifth Banana in. Oh man. Yeah. Josie and the Pussy Cats. That
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was right. Was that right up your alley? God, I loved it so
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much. Yeah. Great soundtrack. Sure. Love it. Who who was the
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actual band? We've I think we've talked about this before.
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Yeah. Uh I think as I recall Biff Naked was involved. Oh
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that's right. But I don't know if it was if she did all of the
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music. Okay. But I don't I don't know. You watch that
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video for three small words. Yeah. That's the big single
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from the soundtrack and what you walk away with is like
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these like Tara Reid is not good at pretending to play
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drums. No. There's no way they played their own instruments.
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No. No. Was it Rachel? Rachel Lee Cook. Rachel Lee Cook.
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Rosario Dawson. I think Rachel Lee Cook is like in some new
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big independent movie. Thrilled for her. Yeah. She was
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always better than than her career deserved back then.
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Really? She got pigeonholed with that that movie where she
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takes off her glasses and then she's hot. She's all that.
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That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that Josie and the Pussy Cats
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is a great satire. Yeah. It's it's pretty funny. Yeah. It's
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a it's did they have fun with the source material? It's
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sharp. Okay. I like that. I like it. It is interesting.
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There were I felt like there were those kind of movies and
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like, oh, they're making a that movie. This was II think like
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this was a thing about the 90s. The late 90s. This one might
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have been 2000. Or that. Okay. That end of the 2000. The end
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of the 90s going into 2011 though. I'll tell you that.
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I'm telling you. I had a long road trip the other the other
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week and I and I just was, you know, 911 just ruined
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everything. There was, I hate to sound old but it was just a
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simpler time before 911. Josie and the Pussy Cats came out.
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They were talking about a sequel. You got your Josie and
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the Pussy Cats and there were those kind of movies because
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this one they were doing like Scooby Doo. Yeah. Josie and the
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Pussy Cats. All these are and every once in a while. I mean
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even **** 10 years earlier they did Mario. Yeah. The the Mario
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Brothers and that was a disaster. Oh boy. Johnny Legs.
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But then every once in a while they would they would do one of
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those and they would make it real weird and you're like, oh
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this is just like you just it's it happens to be Josie and the
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Pussy Cats but he made it look a real weird. Yeah. Movie. I
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mean the whole plot of it was about like the like. Like
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creating a band, right? And how pointless the people in the
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band and disposable they are and like how abusive the music
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industry is to the people inside it. Yeah. There's a lot
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of really subversive themes in it. Whereas Mario Brothers not
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a chance. No. Scooby Doo not a chance. No. Anyway, we're a bit
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off track and I just don't remember where. Cryptocurrency.
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Maybe gold. I think we're talking about gold a little.
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Yeah. Boy, I'd love to know how we got off on that. Yeah.
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That's all. Oh, we went to the USA Network somehow and then we
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got into the shows and then. Did we? Yeah. I can't possibly.
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Yeah. Remember I was talking about how they were going to
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leave the USA Network or something. The last thing I
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remember us talking about in terms of Alex stuff is that
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they made gold and silver coins. Oh man. I thought we
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were back on freezing point. I gotta be honest. I forgot all
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about Alex Jones and that whole that whole rundown. This is
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this is one of those things like I know we we gotta get
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through this episode but it feels like work. Oh man. So in
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the seventeen and 1800, I don't want to teach you. Hey, did you
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class? I don't want to cut you off here. Oh, go ahead. But
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this is just I was wondering your thoughts on this. Did you
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know how Kevin Smith had a heart attack and almost died
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right? Mm hmm. Did you hear his his story about that or
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anything? No but II saw a tweet about it and I felt I felt
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sympathetic. Yeah. I don't know II lost track of Kevin Smith
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in the last I would say 5 years probably. Yeah. I used to
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listen to his podcast a bit. Yeah. But then I just kind of
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got like I like Scott Mosher a lot and all but I got in the
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same way. I can't listen to them hypothetically talk about
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sucking dicks while they're really high for. I can't do it
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anymore. I know you have to walk away and it's and it's
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that's that like hip slang of like that like hey man if you
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suck a cat's dick save the world you gotta suck a cat's
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dick in the parlance of our times. Yeah. You gotta suck a
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dick but but he he's an interesting guy in the sense of
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like his career fascinates me and and how he sort of figured
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it out or whatever but anyway he was I listened to his
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podcast about his heart attack and when he was on the
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operating room table and he was kind of like going under he
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was thinking of the Degrassi theme song. Oh I thought about
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you. Wow. That's that's kind of beautiful. Yeah. He told the
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doctor he goes you have to save my life and the doctor just
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goes I'll see what I can do and then put him under and then
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he's like whatever it takes I know I can make it. I mean it's
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a it's a very inspirational song. Yeah. Some people have
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lamented the end of the Degrassi breakdowns. You know
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what are you going to do? Yeah. You get to a certain point you
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get to about 34 years of age and you're like I can't talk
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about tween drama anymore. This saw this this show. Is there a
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new current Degrassi going on? There is. I haven't watched any
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of that. The on Netflix. Oh yeah. That's right. Netflix
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original I believe. I think yeah I know some people who
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watched it. They were sticking with the heavy issues. I'm sure
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it's good. I'm sure I'm sure it's a positive thing for the
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youth of our day. Yeah. But I just I can only talk about it
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for about 200 hours or so and then then I gotta check out. Do
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you think Page is like whatever I put that guy went on his
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podcast talk about Degrassi. I just saw that she got engaged
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recently. Hey. Congratulations Lauren Collins. Good job
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Lauren. Still the weirdest thing that's happened in my
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life probably is getting to talk to Page from Degrassi. I don't
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know anybody who knows Alex to get him on the podcast. No
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wrestlers. I don't know any wrestlers or child actors from
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Canada. But I've also been very public about this. I don't
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want to talk to him. No I know I know. We're going to Austin in
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June. I know. I'm dreading the idea of him showing up. We have
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we have a thing on our podcast where we we say don't at the
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wrestlers on the tweets like if you're just like hey at so and
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so they were talking about you on this and joked around about
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what it would be like if you dated this person. It's like
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don't do that. We want that world completely separated and
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it's the same thing with Alex where it's just like what if
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you just beat him? He's like hey man it's all just it's all
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just a **** scam anyway. Like I'm just he wouldn't tell me
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that for sure. I know that. Yeah. I know that unless you
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want to unless I get super famous and then he wants to
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impress me or something then maybe like if we could find let
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me be a talk to like Billy Corgan or something. He'd be
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like oh yeah. I know Alex. He said it's all just a charade
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man. I don't know it's Billy Corgan like he he seems like he
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loves Alex. You know he really does. He's been on a lot. Yeah.
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He really does and I think he can really just like let his
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guard down with Alex and Alex is smart. Alex is a very smart
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celebrity interviewer because he really pumps up the celebs
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and I think he makes Billy feel like it's you know ninety-seven
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you know he makes Billy feel like it's like you're the king.
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Mm hmm. I'm so lucky to have you here. Although but that's
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that's what we call star **** sure. That's that's what we
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call being like manipulative. Yeah. Cuz he does he does that
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with just about anybody. He dangles that carrot about being
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with a lizard person sexually and they they morphed in front
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of him and Alex like oh **** yeah. Wait does he does he get
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into that? He won't. He says when he writes a book, he'll
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talk about it cuz it's apparently a famous person. Who
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is a lizard person who morphed in front of yeah during sex. He
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told Rogan that also I have people. I've gotta watch this
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Rogan. The Rogan Billy Corgan. I will say this cuz I like to
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make fun of Billy Corgan on our podcast. I like to do
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research and he gets a lot of he gets a lot of **** talk. He
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gets a lot of play on our podcast but when he talks about
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the music industry, it's very fascinating. I think very spot
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on. He's clearly a bit of a wounded. He's got a wounded
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psyche. I think he feels. I think he wanted to be the guy
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and because of the time that he came out, he was never the guy.
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He was never the guy because he just happened to be in the same
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class with a lot of like Nirvana with very popular. He's
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the Pippin but like if Pippin was super bitter sure like
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cuz you you can't be Jordan. Yeah you can't and and it's I
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think he still won't quite let go that like it's cool. It was
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cool to be Pippin. He still can't quite you know like he
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still like there's ways where he claims or like he'll say
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like you know we did you know we put out this double L and
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nobody else would have done this and all this stuff and
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it's just like it's interesting. He clearly has like
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did Wu Tang forever come out cuz that was a double album.
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Yeah. Yeah. But I think like there I think there definitely
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is that like and in both cases could have been a single album
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could have been a real banger of a single album. But you know
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there's that there's that thing and I think Alex kind of
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brings him back to like wow man being worshipped. You're the
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king. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean. But Billy has some very
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interesting thoughts about the music business and celebrity in
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general. I think everybody has something to say like you could
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get you could get a lunatic to talk to you and like if you
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talk to them long enough, they probably have some interesting
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insight into one thing. Broken clocks right twice a day, Dan.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how to jump back
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into this. Alright, we got we got back to Kane. So anyway.
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What's the next topic after the Bitcoin thing, but I mean he
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was just talking about how it's like we should get more into
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gold. Sure and the bringing back the gold standard is
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really popular among them. I don't know. I don't know if
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this is what we're talking about, but I'm just going to
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talk about. Oh, didn't we hear. I think I think I know what
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we're doing. We got into this because I said, do you think
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these guys are all like doomsday? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I don't think they are. They've been conned. That's what
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it was. Oh, the Jeff Jarrett. Yes. Jeff Jarrett sells gold.
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We found it 5 years ago. Holy **** Who's 5 years ago.
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It's fascinating. That's the path it went down. Wow. Okay.
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But so the problem with making coins out of real precious
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metals is that the price and the value of those metals
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fluctuate wildly. Sure. And so like let's say last year's dime
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it has X amount of silver in it. When the value of silver
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goes up or down in the next year, you have to make dimes
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that adjust to the silver content. You have to either
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make them with less right silver or more silver in them
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in order to keep the price consistent or value of that
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dime or you have to just assume that last year's dime is worth
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more than this year's dime and then just assume that the dime
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itself doesn't really have a value attached. And then also
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won't these kind of more hoarder hoarder ish gold people
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be like, well, you're not taking my gold to make coins.
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That wasn't that wasn't so much of a problem back then and
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I'll explain why here in a second. Okay. That is going to
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come into it a little bit. So but before we get to that a
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further problem is exemplified by what happened in the late
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1800s when huge silver veins were found in the western
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United States. What happens in a situation like that is the
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supply of silver goes up massively and the price goes
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down drastically. The only way to avert these sorts of events
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would be to artificially manipulate the public perception
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of the silver supply, which at its core is exactly what the
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Federal Reserve does with restricting or expanding the
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money supply in terms of dollars in order to justify and
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rationalize these things. Otherwise, all of your money is
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going to become valueless if some random occurrence happens,
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especially with precious metals. So to the hoarding
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question, one of the reasons that really rich people loved
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the system that was in place with the gold and silver
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standard that we had. We had to buy metallic standard for a
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long time and then that gave way to the gold standard. The
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reason they loved it was because things like the Bland
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Allison Act, which was passed in 1878, required the
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government to buy between two and $4 million dollars in
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silver at market prices from them in order to make coins.
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It was basically literally a government subsidy of people
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who owned a lot of gold and silver, so they had an automatic
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purchase every year in order to subsidize their businesses.
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So for that, that is one of the biggest reasons that really
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rich people pushed for keeping those systems in place because
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they made a **** ton of money off this scam on it and that
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continues to this day in some to some extent or at least that
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mentality, not the they need to buy all this to make coin in
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the works. We got like nickel and useless metals in our
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coins and ****. So FDR is largely credited and blamed for
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ending the gold standard, but in reality, it was Richard
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Nixon who ended the convertibility of gold to cash
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in 1971. Before that, there was still not necessarily a strict
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tying of gold to dollars or anything like that. It had been
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diffused by FDR, but if anyone wants to point a finger at
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anybody about gold stuff, you should probably point at
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Nixon. Among other things to point out, yeah, there's a lot
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yeah, but it never seems to get blamed for much with these
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these folks. No anyway, that was some information. Okay. I
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feel like anytime I'm breaking this information out and it's
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it it ruins our flow. It ruins the fluidity of just rambling
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about other stuff. Kevin Smith and Billy Corgan and Degrassi
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themes and Josie and the **** cats. Yeah. Well, let's jump
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back and see you see you about Kane. He wants to talk more
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about bitcoin. Okay. That is the problem with bitcoin from a
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more macro level. If we're introducing the idea of
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competing currencies and then one of these competing
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currencies ends up in a bubble ends up with a lot of people
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putting a lot of money into it like I heard recently that you
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know folks are saying that bitcoin could go to 100 thousand
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dollars a coin or even a million dollars a coin. People
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are going to start getting into this thing because wow it's
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starting to shoot up in value. I need to get into it before the
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train leaves the station and then all of a sudden the thing
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crashes. Then the status are going to say see we told you
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money is way too important for the market to handle only the
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government should be handling money and it will it will as
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you say demonize the entire idea of competing currencies.
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History demonizes the idea of competing currencies, but I'm
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fascinated because in that clip, Kane is totally right and
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totally wrong at the same time about what would happen with
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bitcoin because since 2013, you saw that like train leaving
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the station. You saw that and then it went up to $19000 per
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coin right and at that point, people are like holy **** this
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massive money for nothing. It was like I gotta get rich.
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Yeah and so people got into it. It got it got fairly
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speculative and then of course the bottom fell out and now
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we're at about $9000 a coin. It's exactly what happened, but
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it wasn't because people demonized it or there's some
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sort of nefarious conspiracy against it. It's just it's an
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unstable currency system with a guy like Kane with his beliefs.
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What sort of rude awakenings do you think await him when he
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like gets the keys to the to the office and he's in charge.
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Oh, you're talking about him being the the mayor or the
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governor mayor. I think it's mayor. I think it's mayor. Well,
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he only won by 17 votes apparently right but but it's
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also the Republican nomination exactly and the Democrat who
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won got 4000. He got like 30 thousand votes and so did the
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other guy so he's going to crush. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, but
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maybe the Democratic primary wasn't all that interesting.
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Maybe I don't know. I think it's I think I think you think
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it's a shoe in once he's won, but he's still only won by
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17. It's a squash match. Okay. Right. Right. Jobber Democrat.
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They got they got way more votes but they're but there's
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still a chance that the opponent in the GOP primary
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Belsaurus could get involved but but 17 votes is such a slim
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margin. There's got to be not a recount. Well, they're talking
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about a recount because there were they've got to look at it.
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There's some number of votes that's that like still haven't
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been counted or something or there was I would I but there
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was one that had to be. Yeah. there was you know we'll see
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but I mean it it'd be interesting to see like what
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what is I don't know. Well, I mean Ventura talks about like
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when he became well, I mean he was mayor first and then he
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started rocking like Jesse for the people watching sure he
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talks about some of the rude awakenings that he had and I
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think pun intended. I think a lot of that does lead to
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rationality. Yeah because when Jesse Ventura comes on Alex's
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show, there's so many times that Alex wants to talk about
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like real bizarre libertarian ideas and like closing the
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border and stuff like that and Jesse brings them down to
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earth. You have to realize the reality of like I've been in
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the state house. Yeah like when Alex talks about like I see
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how the food is made in the kitchen. Alex he talks about
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like taxes and **** and he's like you understand I was in
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there II did all that. I think I think if Cain were to get in
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I mean he doesn't just have fake government employees
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giving Alex the scoop. No apparently not. I don't know
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what responsibilities a mayor has though. I don't know in
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terms of like big picture stuff. So he might not have he
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might not have a come to Jesus moment. Yeah, but he might have
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a come to like oh Saint Francis. That's sort of how it
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is. Oh, that's how it is. Yeah. Yeah. You might have to
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realize how difficult it is to cooperate. Yeah and stuff like
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that and you can't you can't have these hard line stupid
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libertarian beliefs right and that would have been a fun
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character on Parks and Rec like the libertarian kind of like I
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mean how Ron Swanson was but like more or less, but it would
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be kind of funny to have like some guy who's just like a nut
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ball who people are like **** yeah. let's give this a try and
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then he gets in and it's like oh I can't do any of the stuff
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I wanted to do so. This is the reason why like getting along
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wouldn't work. Yeah. I'm going to read to you another thing
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from the Von Meese Institute, which is actually called the
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Meese Institute. Alex has the name wrong and it's going to
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make me have the name wrong a bunch. This is about blackmail.
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Okay. What exactly is blackmail? Blackmail is the
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offer of trade. It's the offer to trade something usually
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silence for some other good usually money. If the offer of
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the trade is accepted, the blackmailer maintains his
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silence and the blackmail pays the agreed upon price. If the
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blackmail offer is rejected, the blackmailer may exercise
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his rights of free speech and publicize the secret. There's
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nothing amiss here. All that is happening is that an offer to
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maintain silence is being made. If the offer is rejected, the
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blackmailer does no more than exercise his right of free
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speech. They're fine with blackmail. The mugger is
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offering a possibility to keep your life if you give them
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money. Yeah. Money you could make more of later down the
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road. If you decide not to give the mugger money, that's your
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choice but you can also get murdered. Well, see, here's the
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problem with that. Libertarians believe that the
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worst thing you can possibly do to anybody is threaten
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violence. Yeah. It's so like the mugging example wouldn't
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work. Yeah. But I would argue that this is also threatening
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violence. Yeah. It's emotional violence. Sure. And also, hey,
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guess what? Ding dongs? A bunch of blackmail is based on not
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true things. Yeah. A bunch of. This makes me wanna blackmail
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them. It's based on like smears. Sure. And stuff like that
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usually. Sure. Or it's based on information that you got
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through really **** up means. Yeah. Like maybe you hacked
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somebody. Yeah. There's there's pseudo legal ways that you can
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get secret information about people and then use it to
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blackmail. Yeah. People who are blackmailers probably usually
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come across that information in some nefarious means. Mm hmm.
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We just heard Kevin Kevin Hart. Someone was shopping on a
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sex tape and he just found out it was one of his close friends.
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Mm hmm. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. But I mean, he has
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the right to sell his silence. Yes. And if he chooses to not
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do that, then that's just something he'll have to deal
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with. See, this is what I wanna get to really specifically is
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is that libertarians like to trot around and like Kane is
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even gonna say as much and just say like, you know what? How
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can anybody disagree with us? Sure. All we really want is the
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most freedom for everybody. On paper and I remember hearing
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about this in like a college course of like, what's a
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libertarian? And it's just like, do whatever you want.
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Just don't bother me, man. As long as you're not hurting
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anybody. I guess I'm a libertarian. Yeah, it's it
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sounds hippy dippy and like kinda cool. Wonderful. Yeah,
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it's great except that the problem is when you really get
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down to what the beliefs are with a lot of the libertarian
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community and again, I don't wanna paint with a broad brush.
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There's there's different. It's not a homogenous group or
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anything but a large large portion of the libertarian
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community is super **** up. Oh yeah, it's very sexy to those
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people. Yeah. That's like, oh, what? Yeah, I'm not a Democrat
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or Republican. I'm a libertarian. And a lot of it
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comes down to like making bizarre rationalizations to
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retain your wealth and making bizarre arguments as to why you
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can be an **** to people. Sure. Like, hey, I'll give you an
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argument why you shouldn't blackmail people. It's **** dick
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move. Yeah. It's. You're treading on people. So, here,
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I'm gonna read one more real quick just to really bring this
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**** home. Okay. Here is one of their beliefs about parenting.
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Quote, a parent does not have the right to aggress against
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his children but also, that parent should not have a legal
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obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children. Such as
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such obligations would entail positive ex coerced upon the
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parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent
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therefore may not murder or mutilate his child and the law
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properly outlaws a parent from doing so but the parent should
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have the legal right not to feed the children i.e. to allow
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it to die. The law therefore may not properly compel the
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parent to feed a child to keep it alive. This rule allows us
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to solve such vexing questions as should a parent have the
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right to allow a deformed baby to die. EG by not feeding it.
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The answer of course is yes. Following from the larger right
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to allow any baby whether deformed or not to die. Though
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as we shall see below in a libertarian society, the
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existence of a free baby market will bring such neglect down to
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a minimum. They believe you should just be able to **** sell
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your kids. Sure. You want to buy my kids? Sure. Right. Why
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are you getting in the way of market? Yeah. Yeah. Look, I have
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a baby. I don't want it. You want a baby. You have money. I
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want that. What's the problem? Why are you getting in the way
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of commerce? I feel like libertarians are. But also, no,
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we're not even talking about the idea. No. Like they're
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saying it is a it's burdening you with a responsibility that
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you have to feed and clothe your child. I feel like
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libertarians are kind of like sociopaths. Yes. Who just want
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to get rich. Hmm. And it's like or or be comfortable at least
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and it's like they have no heart. So, it's just like the
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yeah, I don't think Scrooge was wrong at all and it's like,
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yeah, I've got this kid. I don't want to clothe it. Do you
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you want to buy my kid? Yeah, you can have my kid. I should
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not have a like I should not feel responsible for this
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thing. I can't see these people being good partners in a
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relationship. Jesus, I can't even imagine. Can you imagine?
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But like the the thing that it comes down to, I think so often
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is that like it is being a monstrous sociopath. Yeah. But
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at the same time, what you you constantly hear from these
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**** is that like even in the blackmailing example later in
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that article, uh it's like, is there a moral responsibility
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not to do this? Who cares? Who cares? They're bad. They're
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exactly like not uh that is and and again in the parenting one
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that consideration is brought up too. It's a prime example.
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Well, why would you recognize in your defense of not feeding
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kids like that? It's probably deeply immoral. It's so weird
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too that like especially like that or the Scrooge example or
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the blackmail. It's like why are you taking those? Why are
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those your examples? Well, I think that libertarians also
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are contrarian by nature to a certain extent and so like a
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lot of the positions you'll see them take uh uh are just
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intentionally. You know how Drew Michael does comedy? Yeah,
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reverse engineers. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff. Yeah. It's kind of the
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same thing with them but with politics. That's how I think
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like also libertarians like to say the N word on stage. Sure.
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Anthony Jeselnik will be like, I just write down all the
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offensive stuff and then I just write jokes for those or
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whatever and I think too, I think it's a lot of stuff where
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yeah, I think it's a little like the shock and the
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contrarian and the like, oh, you don't like that? Well, guess
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what? I'm going to show you why it is okay to blackmail people
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or it's pretty well your kids. It's pretty remarkable in
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comedy like because all you're trying to do is make people
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laugh and think uh a little bit. Yeah. Is this is advocating
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policy. It's just weird. Like they also they also think that
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drunk driving should be legal. It should just be legal because
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hey, man. Hold on. I'm listening. We do live in
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Chicago. Hold on. I'm listening. No. Yeah. The uh the
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argument is that like being drunk isn't the crime. The crime
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is that you killed someone. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course they say
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that. So, it's like uh so if you get home without hurting
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anybody, no harm, no foul. Right but that already works.
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You know? Yeah. Even with it being illegal, you're never
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going to get pulled over unless. Yeah. You know, you have
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your car. That's one of those fun. Or you don't swerve.
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Sure. That's one of those fun ways of like people are like,
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I'm not paying taxes and here's why. It's kind of the same like
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I'm driving drunk and here's why. Oh, those are the same
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people. Sure. Yeah. Crazy cabbie from the Howard Stern
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Show. Yeah, he's probably a deep libertarian. Oh, man. Yeah,
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it's wild, man. I I do I do respect on some level. I
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respect the hustle in a way. That's what I was going to say.
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Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I think it's got I think they have some
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great marketing going on. Um when you really peel back the
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layers though and I think we're going to do a much longer uh
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less Josie and the Pussycat's involved episode about this but
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like when you peel back the layers so much of it really
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boils down to like trying to make rationalizations for
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states to secede from the union. Sure. It comes down to
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like trying to break up the United States on some level. I
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just think like I want all of these arguments. What I want
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for a lot of these guys is like, okay, show me your
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utopia. Take me through a day in the life of your perfect
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society. You know what I mean? Like what I don't know what it
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would be like. Well, a poor person slept on my property and
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then uh when he woke up, uh he tried to ask for some bread so
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I shot him because that's my god-given right. It is my
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second my property. He was inconveniencing me. Then his
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family came over a little bit later in the day where I pissed
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off that I killed him and buried him in a shallow grave
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and uh I said, hey, okay, well, what are you going to do about
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it? What's the recourse? So we went to the local court uh which
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I have deep alliances with and they tried to sue me in that
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local court and they found in my favor and then they had
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their own court that uh they wanted uh me to go to and I
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said, absolutely not because my court is stronger than their
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court and uh you know, uh I have a lot of money and it's
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fine. I ended up giving a lot of resources. I ended up
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giving them five Dan dollars and told him be on your way.
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Exactly. Dan dollars uh incidentally not redeemable
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anywhere else. Redeemable anywhere else. But if you give
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them to me, I will give you gold. I don't know. Yeah. I
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don't know. Probably not. This is weird. It's a very bizarre
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um uh also I've got this son. I'm not real fond of him. If
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you want to buy him, you can. I sold six kids already. Yeah.
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They. My wife is pissed. Um even yeah even the Utopia
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version of like this like this this this presumption that
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sounds good like more freedom for everybody. That presumption
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even taken to like what their version of more freedom is.
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Yeah. It just the way they're sucks and even when you get
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there, it sucks. Yeah. So, I feel like I just want to live
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alone. Yes. And a mountain. They don't. They don't want to
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be bothered. It comes down to an idea largely uh uh called
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Christian reconstruction. Uh huh. Basically, they want to
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recreate the United States as a Christian nation. Yes. Where
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they don't have to deal with gays. They don't want to have
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to deal with black people. They don't want like. Is there a
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gay libertarian party? It's not a party. It's a party I want to
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tell you that much right now. It's a party I will not RSVP
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to. I don't think I don't think there's a strong gay
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libertarian faction but I bet there are some. What's the the
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log cabin Lincoln's? The log cabin Republicans?
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Republicans. Yeah, there's the the gay Republicans. Yeah.
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That's a great uh Nas song. I don't. I'm a gay Republican.
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No. But I mean like look at look at I mean Kanye just the
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other day was talking about uh like slavery is a choice. Yeah.
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I know that's a reference to black Nas's black Republican.
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Do you hear black Nas's black Republican? I have not. No.
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Yeah. It's just about how like man I got all this money. I
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might as well be a Republican now. If it wasn't on Illmatic
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then I'm not listening. Got it. Also, he has a new album
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coming out with Kanye West which might be part of Kanye
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West's media blitz. Did you hear that new Kanye song? I didn't.
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It's so silly. Saw some tweets about it. It's so silly.
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Someone played it at a show. I was at him like this. It's
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crazy. I'm uh I'm I'm largely emotionally checked out of all
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of this stuff that's going on because I'm pretty convinced
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that Kanye is trolling everybody. Yeah, it's pro wrestling.
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Yeah, basically. Yeah. He's doing uh a sort of a large
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scale think piece in some ways. Yeah. But the unfortunate
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consequence of it is that the world we live in right now,
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it's way too dangerous to do stuff like that. Like when Andy
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Kaufman was doing his uh his elaborate stunts. When I remember
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Stan, it was okay. Mm hmm. Now, you can't you can't write a
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stand nowadays cuz you're gonna create more stands. I
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would argue fine to write the song. Not fine to stir the pot
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like this. Yeah. And I'm not saying that that's what he's
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doing cuz there's a decent chance that my assessment is
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wrong. Yeah. He's not just **** with everybody. Yeah. But when
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you have militant angry white nationalist forces uh at play.
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Uh huh. And you for a fact pretend to be on their side.
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Yeah. It really it really can cause a real problem. It it
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causes a there are ripples to it that are not like you can't
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account for. Yeah. You can't predict the like in the same
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way that you put a little bit of silver in a dime today and
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who knows what it's worth tomorrow. Yeah. You retweet
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like conservative propagandists. Yeah. And say like
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this is great stuff. You're kind of a. Who knows what that's
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gonna be worth tomorrow. Yeah. You know it it the effects of
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it can be very **** up. Yeah. And that's why I mean I think
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that there's an outside chance that he would go on Info Wars.
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But I don't think he would understand. If this is like you
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said an elaborate think piece. Mm hmm. Info Wars is perfect.
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Perfect. But I don't think he I don't think he understands
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what the ramifications of that would be. Yeah. Like I I really
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don't and in the same way that I don't think that most people
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um who know about Alex understand what he's really
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about. There might be a lot of people who are like what show
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did you just do? Like oh I did this Alex Jones Info War guy.
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Oh no. And then they tell like I bet there's a lot of like they
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don't get a lot of return business there at Info Wars.
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Mm hmm. When it's like wait what did I do? Like you're just
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like put me on every show. I want to market my book or
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whatever and they're like perfect. We got you on this
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Info Wars. Well, spoiler alert. I don't think Cain ever came
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back. No. Cain didn't come around this time of year. I
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think he might have gotten the message uh that uh you shouldn't
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have done that. Vince is like, blood. I'm going to talk to you
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pal. This is bad for business. This is uh this is not what's
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best for business. Um so at this point in the show, we get
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into uh of course, every libertarian and uh Alex and
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Cain are no different. Taxes. Nope. Guns. Guns. Sure. And
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again, if you just joined us, Glenn Jacobs, known as Cain,
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one of the top wrestlers in the world is here and he is
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talking about being free and it it's so asinine to claim that
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uh government can keep us safe and and we knew that they would
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start moving out of the airports, onto the roads, into
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the malls, and the sports stadiums. The idea that the
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feds have to be everywhere where a bad person might try to
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hurt you while they try to keep the individual from being armed
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to protect ourselves. It is obviously the real answer to
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terrorism or crime. First of all, I would argue that you
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take the sports stadiums out of there and the Transportation
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Safety Administration has a reason to be on roads. Yeah.
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Whatever. They might. Transportation. Um but then the
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the other thing that he's saying there at the end there,
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Alex is saying, it's like when the reality is that we gotta
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have guns in everyone's hands in order to uh be safe. Sure.
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Uh Stanford law professor John Donahue studied decades worth
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of crime data and what he found was that states that enact
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right to carry laws show an increase of thirteen to 15% in
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violent crime rates in the 10 years after the inaction of
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those laws. To quote Donahue, quote, there is not even the
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slightest hint in the data that the right to carry laws reduce
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overall violent crime. Also, in 2013, a study by the National
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Crime Victimization Survey found that 99.2% of violent
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attacks in the United States, no gun is used in self defense
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or any defense like no one, another person. 0.8% of violent
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attacks in any way involve a defensive gun. Now, you have a
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thirteen to 15% increase in violent crime in places where
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people are allowed to carry guns with the right to carry
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laws. Sure. Uh you start to see a picture where no everyone
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having guns is more **** dangerous. Yeah. The John
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Donahue, the guy who wrote that study, he had a really good
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analogy that he made and it's like allowing everyone to have
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guns is sort of similar to you saying, I want to get a brain
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scan every week to make sure that my brain is healthy and
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it's like, well, yes, you will detect whatever uh tumor might
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be there but you're going to get radiation poisoning from
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that. Yeah. So, it's it's that same sort of thing. It's like
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you you're not taking into account all of the factors that
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are there. So, Alex in his head imagines a scenario where he's
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get gets mugged. He pulls out a gun. That's if you go on Alex's
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website, if you go on Info Wars. Right. Scroll down a
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little bit. It's always going to be the story of the guy who
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you know, was at the convenience store when it was
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getting robbed and he pulled out his gun and shot the guy.
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It's always they celebrate those stories. They love those
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stories. They're still celebrating the one that
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happened 8 years ago. Sure. Sure. And and it's that it's
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either the hey, these refugees gang raped this woman in front
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of her family or it's the hey, this hero was at a McDonald's
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that was bit and held up and he took his gun out and took out
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the uh the robber suspiciously not talking at all about this
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guy from the Waffle House. No, no, no, no, no. I'm surprised
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they haven't called it a false flag or anything. Also not
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talking about how he had that fundraiser and gave all the
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money to the victims. Also not talking about how the guys who
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got arrested at Starbucks agreed to a $1 settlement from
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the city. There'll be more. There's a promise for uh money
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for uh small business owners, entrepreneurs. Yeah. It's
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complete **** like all of the things that you seem to believe
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in are being better done by everybody else which all you
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have is your bigotry which you all you have. You showed a
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couple episodes back that he was for the people getting
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shot by cops. He was he was he was he was in support of the
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he was in support of the victims and it was just like oh
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Alex. Yeah. He used to be uh on somewhat of the right side of
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history. Wow. We were a little too fair. I think I've been
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listening to a bit more of 2009. Yeah. Well, just in that
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instance, we were too nice just in that instance. Um so yeah
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guns guns aren't great. I'm going to skip around on these
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clips. Is Kane a big gun guy? Yeah. I mean we're in as much
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as he agrees with Alex's statements. Yeah. He doesn't
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usually talk uh on his own accord about guns at all. He
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seems to be more into money. Kane's been in airports every
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week of his life multiple times. Kane's been on more
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flights than any of us all listening together combined.
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Yeah, that's true. Uh it would have been interesting to sort
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of get his point of view. He doesn't like the TSA much.
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Yeah. But I where's that clip? That would have been
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interesting. The clip's gotta be somewhere. Do you realize
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how many flights Kane's been on in his life? But I mean I
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bet he drives a bit too. Cuz sometimes the shows are pretty
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close to each other. But they fly to those places then drive
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to the shows. That dude's on a flight every week. He's on a
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plane every week. Yeah probably. Yeah. But there's a
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lot of people who travel around. Jet setters. Not like
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Kane. CEOs. Not like Kane over 20 years. Yeah that's true. And
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as big as he is sitting in those seats. Gotta be so
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uncomfortable. Good lord. That's true. He talks about the
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I I I didn't include this clip cuz it's long and meandering
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but all he really says is that like the idea of the TSA at
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airports is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Mm hmm. And
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that it's unreasonable what they ask like hey I'm just
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trying to get on a plane. Yeah. Why do I have to be searched?
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Like. Yeah. And I agree to an extent but I disagree with what
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they would think is the what's reasonable. Mm hmm. Like in
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terms of reasonable search. Yeah. I do think that the world
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that we live in now and the fact that everyone's safety is
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contingent on each other. Mm hmm. Um I do think that a business
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and the government does have a responsibility to make sure
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you're not bringing a **** weapon onto a plane. Yeah.
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Cuz everyone's a sitting duck or. Or just bad or like fruit
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from another place that'll get people sick here or something
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like that. Sure or could introduce a new virus into the
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ecosystem or something like that. Yeah. There are there are
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legitimate things that are like that is a reasonable. Sure.
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Search. That's not a violation of the Fourth Amendment. But
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but you know if you want to talk about like it's weird that
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we have to take our shoes off. Yeah. I'm in. Yeah. I'm in I'm
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in on that level. Yeah. But I don't know. They just want
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nothing. They won't just want like. I know. I just I should
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be able to smoke on planes. Yeah. I should be able to. I
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should be able to load clean my gun on a plane. Yeah exactly.
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Brand of ****. Yeah. And I I don't. I just put it on the
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table and I'm not putting the table up when we land either.
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I'm leaving it down. And their argument would be like of
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course I would never do that. Yeah. It should just be allowed
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to do that. Yeah. They're also assuming everyone's going to
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behave themselves. Right. And that lots of people aren't
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**** bats **** crazy. Yeah. And we know a lot of people that
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are bats **** crazy. Mm hmm. That's the thing too. It's like
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these people that live in these sort of I don't know like
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communities where it's just like them and they their
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neighbor a mile down the road and stuff like that. It's like
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man ride a bus in a major city. You really think everybody
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should have a gun and not need a some type of background
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check or you think mentally ill people. I was on a gun. I was
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on a bus the other day here in Chicago. Very maybe like a half
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hour trip. Yeah. The entire time very normal looking. I put
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him at fifty ish looking guy was just muttering to himself
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about how he's going to kill some people. Yeah. And and it
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didn't phase me. That's the kind of situation. I was on the
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bus yesterday. This guy was just staring at every woman
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like he was going to murder them. Yeah. And that you get to
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that point, you just go, well, it's not my problem. You know
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what I mean? Like I hate to say it and you're just kind of
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like, you know, jeez, you're like, it's not going to do
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anything and you're like, I will, I will step up if need
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be. That's it for now. I'm ready. I'm ready to do
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something but I'm also not ready to. I can't protect you
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from looks. I can't. I can't do it. But I can this guy flexes
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then we'll do something. I'm on it but otherwise. It's too
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much risk. It's too much. Yeah. Cuz you might have a gun on a
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bus. You can. You can. It's very easy. It's the same thing
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too with like like mega buses and greyhounds. Yeah. They're
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they're reasonably more dangerous. Sure. Because there
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aren't those. Sure. There aren't as real of security.
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Absolutely. That's why that guy got beheaded a couple years
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back on a greyhound bus and you know people sell drugs on
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mega buses. Yeah. They do big drug handoffs on mega buses.
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What a great way to do it. Yeah. Because that sort of the
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Wild West. So I'm going to I'm going to cut through a lot of
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**** Camp Cain doesn't know anything. Uh there's a lot of
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discussion about like Alex wants him to say that we're at
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a tipping point. Yeah. Uh because Obama's in office
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again. Yeah. He got reelected and there's just like a they
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just ramble about the Federal Reserve and a bunch of
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nonsense and it's to the point where like they're not even
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saying anything. Yeah. They just they say like you know
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what we're probably at a tipping point but I thought
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2007, 2008 was going to be a tipping point and it's not
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maybe we'll become the Weimar Republic in 6 months. Maybe we
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never will. Like you are not saying anything. Yeah. It's
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absolutely nuts. What do you mean Obama didn't do all the
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stuff Alex claimed he was going to do? Yeah. He didn't do all
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the stuff that you were programmed to be afraid he was
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going to do. Do you think Trump wish he ran against Obama? God
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for the spectacle. Yeah. Maybe. It's after you because I mean I
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like to think he when he lit him up at that correspondence
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dinner that that was like what was that dinner where Obama lit
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up Trump. That was the White House correspondent. Yeah. That
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I felt started it all. That's what the that's what the
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narrative. Yeah. Suggests but I don't I don't know if that's
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true or not. I know that man but I do wonder if because I
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know that Rogers don't want him to run a bunch of times before
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like the 80s. Yeah. But that would have been interesting if
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4 years earlier man it would have I think real talk root
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beer talk. Yeah. I think that could have started race riots.
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I mean the **** he would have said about. Yes. His nicknames
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for for Obama and stuff. The unhinged way he speaks. You got
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Obama bopping down the stairs of Air Force One and all those
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like thinly veiled racist statements. I don't think that
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in 2012, I mean the internet wasn't good but it wasn't as
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bad as it is now. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if you
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would have had the same. I think a woman is is not safer
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punching bag than a black man. You know what I'm saying? No, I
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don't. In the term. No, I don't. Trump being a nut. Yeah.
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You know, I think it was easier for people to wear, you know,
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trump that **** versus like. Yes. Yes. You know. Yes.
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Misogyny is more acceptable than. But that's a part of the
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progression of how bad the internet's got. Yeah. Cuz all
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these movements on the internet whether we're talking about
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like gamer or they're talking about men's rights. I'm sure
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there were some of those guys who would have been like, oh,
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give me an Obama versus Trump. That if that's what we're
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talking about. Oh, I could have done some really good work
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there. II do agree with you that like hating a woman is
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somehow more okay than hating a black guy. Oh, for sure. Uh but
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I think that you could have a man and a woman and and it was
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funny because after the the like if you had a black guy and
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a black woman and you were targeting one of them, everyone
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would be so much more thrilled if you targeted the black
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woman. Sure. But but also what I was trying to say. Oh, I
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thought that's what you're doing. No, no. There was a I
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saw everyone's kind of like when the when all the
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Republicans after the correspondence dinner with
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that Michelle Wolf, they were like, oh, weren't you the guys
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who wore these shirts and they showed like a man and a woman
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and it's like **** your feelings. Trump twenty, you
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know, shout out Ben Shapiro. Yeah and it's just like so it's
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way more and then one guy had uh you know uh trump that ****
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shirt and stuff like that and it was like the man and woman
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were both wearing like Hillary for prison like that to me is
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just like uh a white couple can go out and wear their Hillary
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for like remember we saw that guy that night. Oh boy. He had
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Indiana. Yeah. And he had his like Hillary for prison shirt.
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Info Wars hat. Info Wars hat. Uh we saw a unicorn. It was so
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**** crazy with a sad girlfriend and but it's I mean
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like that girl if he came out, she was like, oh god, he's
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wearing his Hillary for prison shirt. Oh, whatever. Let's go
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to Chili's but if he came out with like an Obama for prison,
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it would have been like, dude, you gotta **** you gotta take
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that shirt off because there might be more blowback also.
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Maybe but I also think here's what I here's what I think
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about that is like I think that how bad culture is. Yeah.
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Like let's imagine just because we have to keep variables
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similar. Okay. Let's imagine that Trump was running against
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Obama in twenty sixteen. Yes. Like imagine that would have
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been Obama's second term. Okay. If the two of them were
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running against each other in the climate that we are
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experiencing right now. Yeah, that's four and more years. You know, but like
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imagine that just by historical coincidence. Okay. Let's say
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that George HW Bush got his second term. Okay. So, it
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pushed everything forward four years. Okay. So, all of
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everything is the exact same except and you're going to have
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trouble with 911 is now in Bill Clinton's term. Sure. Sure.
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Sure. This is an alternate earth. We could write a whole
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comic book series about. Yeah. But for the sake of
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everything, let's just assume everything is the same except
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Trump and uh Obama are running in twenty sixteen. Yes. You
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wouldn't see Hillary for prison shirts. You would see Obama as
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a monkey. That's what you would see. Oh, Jesus. But but no, I
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know this because I've been to gun shows. Sure. Sure. Sure. Oh,
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I know. I've seen them. I've seen them all. I've I've been
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to gas stations. That's the sort of I've been to gas
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stations selling bumper stickers. Exactly. I know.
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That's the sort of **** you would see about Obama. It was
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like unhinged. Well, what I'm saying is what I'm saying is
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even the most racist, sexist, homophobic **** head, it's
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easier for them to wear the Hillary for prison versus the
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Obama, you know, whatever shirt. Right. Because it's like
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what some women going to yell at me **** that and then it's
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like, oh, what am I going to do? Wear this and a bunch of
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black dudes are going to be like, oh wow, let me see your
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shirt and then we're going to eat this **** out of you. My
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argument, my argument to that is some people still wear
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swastikas out. That's true. So, that's why I'm saying that if
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those if those were the variables we had at play, what
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would happen is probably a legit like there would be way
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more night and the night of that election. Holy **** one or
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not one. There would have been trouble either way. Yeah, we
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would have had some bad hombres on both sides. Not on both
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sides. Both sides. Oh no. Well, such **** do you think and I
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don't want to get off the cane thing although canes kind of
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boring me on this one. I gotta be honest. Can I be clear? Yes.
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Cane is super boring. No, right. There was a part of me
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that was like when I was cutting these clips, I was
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deeply concerned because you're coming in. I I know that Cane
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has been on Info Wars. That's so exciting for me. Yeah. Yeah.
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But as I'm cutting the clips, I'm like, there's not a lot of
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juice in this in this fruit. He doesn't say anything crazy.
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It's not really like charismatic. Let me play one
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clip for you where they talk about Cane, the character.
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Okay. And then we'll get back to you. Whatever you like an
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actor on the inside the actors studio like the Cane character
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a little bit. Okay. It's it's a touch of it. Okay. When I see
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all over the country, Bill's introduced and moves to ban
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homeschooling and when I see the persecution of gun owners
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and the persecution of free speech, I just hope we can hold
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off a violent revolution so that we can just restore our
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Republic somehow peacefully. What does what is the Cane in
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you think about all this? I guess Cane would be a fan of
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tyranny. Yeah. Yeah. He probably would be luckily and
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luckily I'm not and yeah, you know, but a lot of laugh there
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from Alex. I would have hooked up jumper cables to Shane
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McMahon's testicles and electrocuted him which leads me
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to think that the character Cane probably wouldn't be a fan
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of tyranny. No, I mean Cane would want society to have all
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these rules so that he could break them. Yeah because he's
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so big and strong and commands fire. If we're all Canes, then
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what's the point? Exactly. You know what I mean? You want you
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want a world of John Cena's where that you could really be
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the Cane. Exactly and that is also a thing about the Von
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Mies Institute view of libertarianism is they it's
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just it's just a I apologize. They've made a number of
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arguments for like monarchy being good. Oh, yeah, but it's
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gotta be a democratic monarchy and if everyone's cool like
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here's the thing if they're just like if you if if they're
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just like hey man, what if I told you we can have this King
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but he's going to be really cool. He's not going to be bad
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at all. You know what I mean? Everything's going to be pretty
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great. Yeah, but benevolent King benevolent King. He loves
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you. Yeah. You you cool with that. I mean you've seen some
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of these presidents you guys have had. What do you think
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you're going to be like? Well, I mean if he's cool, let's just
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go for it. Yeah. Do you think granted we can't get him out of
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power? No no no and he and he might kill people. Yeah. Oh
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definitely killing people. Do you think I don't know so Trump
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let's say he makes it to the end of this presidency. I think
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he'll make it. I don't think he's going to get booted out.
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Well, whatever your question is, I would say my only real
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firm conviction is that if he does, he's going to get a
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second term if he runs again. Yeah. Yeah. I don't believe
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that to be true also, but what I wonder is and III think also
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he if he runs again, he will get another 4 years. So then
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when that's done and do you think will it ever kind of not
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it's like it's going to go back to like you know. Hey if we
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have eight, are we just on this course and this is this is it.
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There's no going back if we have 8 years of of Trump. Yeah.
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We are like I don't I don't I don't like I don't like this
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negative like like I've been reflecting on this a lot like I
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really dislike sort of doom and gloom kind of and I'm guilty of
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it too like I get into it a bit, but I I really dislike it
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to an extent so like when I when I say like after 8 years
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if we have 8 years of this, yeah, we're done. I really do
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think we're done, but it just is we have to transition like
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culture has to transition and one of the things that we have
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to recognize is is that like politics isn't real anymore.
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Yeah and so what will end up happening. I think is we'll
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have another con man become president sure and then we'll
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have a woman fair enough. We'll have we'll have a situation
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that comes into play where just everything comes out into the
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open a little bit more you have like it'll be like
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stockholders in a in a business and this will be the CEO
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everyone. Everything's a scam. Yeah and the only thing that
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you can really do is create local support networks and
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stuff like that. Yeah and so ideally what you'd see is
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people trying to take care of each other and I mean that to
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me you form like co ops. There's like because it was
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like you had the the hippies were like a reaction to
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everybody being so like straight lace and button up and
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then everyone's like. Oh man. This is too heavy. Let's just
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have disco or I'll just get **** up. Yeah. I don't want to
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blow in the bathroom. You know so it's like there have been
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these cultures that have come out of reactions to the
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previous culture. There's the ping pong theory sort of yeah.
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So it's like to me. I just think like I can't imagine 8
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years of Trump and then some new you know, but here's the
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problem with that historical theory as we're experiencing
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it right now and I think that we've discussed a couple of
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things already that are good examples of this so like with
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the Kanye situation. There's half of the world and the world
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is the internet, but you have half of the internet that saw
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that and it was like wow. That's really **** up what he
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said. That's really really stupid and the the idea that
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he's equating in some way and I know he would never was saying
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that like hey being enslaved as a choice as he's saying that it
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went 400 years at some point. Why didn't you get out of it?
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Yeah, not realizing any of the realities of what slaves
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existence was like in the brutal murders and I mean even
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just the displacement aspect of it originally goes so far into
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anyway. I don't want they're much better scholars in terms
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of the reality of slavery. I don't want to. I don't want to
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get into it, but like there's those people who that's their
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response to it and then the other side the Trump people
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their response to it is oh my god. Kanye's waking people up
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getting them off the Democratic plantation. Yeah and stuff like
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that. Yeah. So you have two people. They have two groups of
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people experiencing the same things. Yeah in polar polar
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different ways and then last night as we're recording this
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on Thursday last night, Rudy Giuliani was on Hannity's show
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and he said that Trump repaid Michael Cohen in payments
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because he's **** broke. Well, no in payments because if he
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paid it all at once, it would be a violation. It would have
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to be reported, which is what mobsters do. How did he learn
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that trick Dan from probably being in the mob for the mob
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probably what Alex told us in 2015, but like New Jersey
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casinos you do the math. He's in the consortiums on the East
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Coast. A lot of the internet heard that interview and was
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like holy **** he just said that Trump repaid Cohen for the
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hush money that he gave to a porn star in the middle of a
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campaign. Yeah and and they're like this really is a damning
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indictment. Oh yeah. I turned on MSNBC this morning. They're
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all high-fiving each other and they were **** they had they
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had wine out too just like us, but you look at the other side
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of the internet and they were like it wasn't campaign funds.
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Rudy Giuliani just blew up the entire story. Yeah and did you
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hear the rest of it? He said Rod Rodenstein needs to be
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fired. Yeah and that the Russia probe is **** There's some
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evangelical who's like hey, we didn't hire a choir boy and he
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paid. I saw that exact tweet over and over again. We didn't
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hire him to be a president, not a pastor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah and
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you know so you have these two sides of the internet that are
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experiencing events in completely different ways and
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people are galvanized into whatever their camp is. So the
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ping pong theory of like I'm reacting to X so I work towards
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Y or whatever you have two different groups. Not one that
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are going to ping pong in different directions. They're
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going to react to whatever events are coming in completely
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different radicalized ways. Alright people are going to chill
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out a little bit, but then lefties are going to get more
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angry. I don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't think
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that's possible. I think the I also think I think the trend
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that we're experiencing leads towards anger on both sides. I
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also think this is like sports for people now. Yeah and they're
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teams and winning and I think you know that's why everyone
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keeps bringing up Hillary, but it's only the people on the
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right who are bringing up Hillary. Yeah. They're like she
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lost get over it. That's what it is funny like watching. No
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one I know ever is like let's get her in. Giuliani brought up
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the Clintons so much both of them both of them. Yeah and
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then Trump hired Bill Clinton's a lawyer. Yeah. It's I mean
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it's so funny. It's it's it's a farce. Yeah that we're
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experiencing. It really is and I don't I don't know. I don't
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know the reality like I don't know. I don't know what Trump
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did or didn't do. Yeah, but I know that I don't know that,
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but I do believe that the investigation that's going on
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isn't a witch hunt. Yeah. I think they know what they're I
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think they know what they're what they got II. Have a
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certain amount of faith that if it is a witch hunt. Yeah, I
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think people will be able to see through it. Yeah and I
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think if the end result of the investigation is lackluster or
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the the evidence presented isn't compelling, then I think
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we can have another conversation at that point. Yeah,
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but for now to me. I do know what is publicly available.
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Sure it looks bad and there's a lot of but let's not jump to
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anything. There's also a lot of. Bad dumb people involved
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in this too like you this cast of characters that you've
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sort of shined a light on and bad and bad smart people too.
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Roger Stone is a genius. He is a genius, but I but I think
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that some of these guys just got roped in with the dumb. You
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know what I mean? It's like every business you'll talk to
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people like oh god that guy who's like the the district
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manager is an idiot. Yeah. So stupid. He keeps failing his
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way up. Yeah. I think there's a lot of those cousin. There's a
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lot of those guys involved in this. Sure and dudes who are
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just like **** monsters. Yeah. These monsters like them like a
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Rob Porter type for sure. Yeah. Oh, we're just like hey man. I
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went to Turkey and **** you know, I was just like hey man
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you can kill whoever you gotta kill like let's make this deal
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and they're like. Oh, I thought you were going to say I
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couldn't kill people like no kill whoever you need to kill.
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Let's **** get this deal made and they're like don't even
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worry about it like miraculous. Erik Prince being fine now.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like all these types of people. So
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you've got like these just bad people dumb people people who
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have just been you know lucky to be around and all sorts of
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things and then it's just like yeah II think it'll be
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interesting but II think that if Trump can make it past this
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though, I agree he'll get another 4 years. Yeah and I
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would say it doesn't matter how he gets past it like even if he
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fires all the people who are in his way, he just needs to not
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either say I'm done or I'm impeached and I'm in jail.
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Yeah. I'm going to II. I'm going to just get a couple more
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facts and alright then we gotta review Degrassi. We will we
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will. We'll get right back to where we were a second ago, but
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I have I'm just going to run down the rest of this. Hey, we
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didn't thank any Patreon supporters. We will in a second.
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Okay. We'll do it at the end. Oh, okay. Daddy. I completely
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forgot because II got excited about talking about wrestling
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with you. I understand. So Alex Alex makes the argument that
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the American Revolution is the only good revolution that's
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ever happened. Okay. Which I would argue is not the case for
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Indians Native Americans or black people or well, the
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libertarians say, Hey, we won so well. His argument is that
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it brings the most freedom and that's not true for many groups
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who aren't white dudes for a very long time. A shockingly
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long time even for pretty smart people in modern day. I don't
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think people realize how long it took for basic rights to be
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applied. Hey, Cain, maybe you should talk to Ernie Ladd. Oh,
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I thought you're going to say Ernest the Cat Miller or Cat
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Miller or any guy who's probably dealt with a lot of
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racism. Yeah. Yeah. So then Cain brings up the red pill. I
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got really excited because I was going to make a pun about
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how he's the big red pill machine. Oh, that would be
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great. The clip is really boring, but it was worth it for
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the if Cain was a known like pill popper back in the day. Oh
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god. Oh man. Like if he was Kevin Nash, that would have
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been great to call him the big red pill popping machine. He
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admits not admits. I mean he just talks about it, but he
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talks about writing for the Daily Caller, which is a
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publication that's owned by Tucker Tucker Carlson. Yeah.
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It's full of **** he wrote he wrote an article about wealth
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inequality and how the government creates it. It's
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just a bunch of **** he doesn't he doesn't actually cite any
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evidence. He's just saying things Alex and him talk about
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how bad health care is around the world about how like Alex
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has an employee who works in England. I would like to know
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how does Cain have insurance. He doesn't we're going to get
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to that in the last clip. Interesting. Well, he does be
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able to pay for it himself. Yeah. Interesting. You think a
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guy who worked for a billion dollar company for over 20
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years would have health insurance provided by them. No
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certainly not interesting. So Alex talks about how he has an
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employee in Britain who is dealing with the terrible
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British health care system. That's Paul Joseph Watson. I
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think it's bad here. You should go over there and you can't
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know better. He's a **** propagandist and so I don't
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care what he's saying. Yeah. And then Cain chimes in that he
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has a friend in Canada who needed an MRI and so he had to
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wait a while based on the Canadian system. Yeah. So he
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went to Detroit and went and got it and I would say okay.
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Well, your friend has $3000 to spare good on him fine. Not
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everyone does not everyone is. I'm trying to think who it
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would be and also 2012 Canadian like maybe Jericho
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need an MRI. Edge maybe. Certainly any of those people
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don't have insurance. No. I mean Nick Foley the other day
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was doing a Kickstarter for some surgery. Yeah. I saw that
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you did that a while back right? Yeah. And again? No, that
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was a couple maybe a year ago. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's the
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one I remember seeing. Hip surgery or something. Yeah. So
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also I'd like to say I have a friend from Canada too and he
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got drunk and jumped out of a window. Yeah. And
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accidentally broke both of his ankles. Yeah. And he got
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health care. Got treated. Got no one asked any questions.
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Everything was taken care of. Got a bunch of surgery. I have
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a. So, hey, I got an example too. Dumb **** I don't know.
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I have a friend in parts unknown and boy they are. You
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talk about health care there. Oh boy. Anyway, demon doctors.
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Uh I'm gonna finish up all my rambling here. Okay. By giving
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you a little bit more of the Von Meese Institute's ideas.
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Okay. About stuff. Uh they believe in child labor. They
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think the child labor laws are stupid. Look what it did. It
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made a great author out of Charles Dickens. Certainly. He
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got forced into. Pressure builds diamonds. Exactly.
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There's no other way to create them. No other way. Um their
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argument hinges largely on like stupid anecdotal ideas about
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like hey kids know more about computers than adults do. Why
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can't they make money on it? Why can't they build them? Why
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can't they make more money on teaching people how to use and
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to my response to that is they **** can. Yeah. You know what?
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When I was a kid, uh I I charged people to mow their
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lawns. Yeah. Any kid can do that with I will help you with
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your computer. That's not child labor. The child labor laws
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that are in place are you can't have kids working at your
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**** factory. You can't have kids building the computers.
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Exactly. That's the problem. That's the thin line. That's
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the distinction. If a kid wants to like start up some sort of
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uh. If a kid doesn't wanna go to school and they just wanna
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get into that warehouse and just start building computers
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for no money, let's let them do it. Some kids are ****
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passionate about uh warehouses. Yeah and they're they they
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pretend that it's like kids can't make money but what if
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they're enterprising? They **** can. What if they need an
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MRI in Detroit? Right. Their parents need three grand. That
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was a home alone uh proposal where this kid was in Canada
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and couldn't get an MRI so he snuck over to the US and got
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one. Yeah? Yeah. It was a Canadian version of Home
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Alone. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. Yeah. It's a bad
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movie. I'm trying to. It's a bad joke. Wasn't a great joke
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but I'm trying to play it out in my head is how that would
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work as a movie. I'm like, I don't wanna see this movie.
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Yeah. So, the last thing I'm gonna say about the Von Meese
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Institute. Meese Institute. Excuse me. I wanna talk about
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their racism. Oh, no. They're racist? Very. Oh, no. I'm gonna
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read a couple quotes from Ludwig Von Meese. Oh, no.
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Ludwig Von Meese is racist? Quote, it is nonsensical to
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fight the racial hypothesis by negating obvious facts. It is
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vain to deny that up till now, certain races have contributed
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nothing or very little to the development of civilization and
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can in this sense be called inferior. That's that's Von
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Meese right there, baby. Here's another quote. Quote, it may be
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admitted that the races differ in talent and character and
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that there is no hope of ever seeing those differences
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resolved. Still, free trade theory shows that even the more
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compatible the more capable races derive an advantage from
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associating with the less capable and that social
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cooperation brings them the advantage of higher
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productivity and total labor process. Exploit the less.
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Yeah. Able. What else are we gonna do with them? Jeez. So,
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but you might be you might be thinking to yourself, that's
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Ludwig Von Meese. That's like a probably a guy who existed in
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the Austro-Hungarian Habsburg Empire. Yeah. He lives in a
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castle. Yeah, he's not modern. Here's Murray Rothbard. He's on
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Twitter. Turns out he's on Twitter. Here's Murray Rothbard.
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Okay. Quote, the officially oppressed of American society,
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which is code in this case for black people, women, gays, etc.
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Non-white men. They are a parasitic burden. Dee! Forcing
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their hapless oppressors to provide an endless flow of
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benefits. Oh boy. You're making us all into Scrooges.
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Exactly. Yeah. So, he also doesn't like women. Murray
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Rothbard doesn't. This is from the Southern Poverty Law
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Center. Okay. They wrote this up about him. Quote, the call of
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equality, he wrote, is a siren song that can only mean the
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destruction of all that we cherish as being human.
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Rothbard blames much of what he dislikes on the meddling women.
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In the mid 1800s, a legion of Yankee women who were not
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fettered by the responsibilities of household
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work imposed voting rights for women on the nation. Later,
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Jewish women, after raising funds from quote, top Jewish
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financiers, agitated for child labor laws. Rothbard adds with
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evident disgust. The quote, dominant tradition of all these
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activist women, he suggests, is lesbianism. Classic. Classic.
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So, they just want to kiss each other. So, the current head of
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the the Mies Institute, I've corrected myself. Got it. And
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one of the stalwarts of libertarianism right now is a
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guy named Walter Block and he's responsible for a lot of the
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arguments that we read from the Mies Institute's website, the
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defending blackmailers and stuff like that. He's a real
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contrarian **** and he had this to say about slavery. Think
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about this in relation to Kanye West. Quote, free association
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is a very important aspect of liberty. It's crucial. Indeed,
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it's lack was the major problem with slavery. The slaves could
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not quit. They were forced to associate with their masters
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when they would have vastly preferred not to do so.
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Otherwise, slavery wasn't so bad. You could pick cotton,
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sing songs, be fed nice gruel, etcetera. The only real problem
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was that this relationship was compulsory. It violated the law
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of free association and that of the slaves' private property
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rights in their own persons. The Civil Rights Act of 1964
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then, to a much smaller degree, of course, made partial slaves
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of the owners of establishments like Woolworths. Oh boy. Holy
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**** It wasn't that bad. First of all, there's that. Yeah.
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That, oh, the problem with the sailor is you couldn't quit.
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Yeah. Not all the other stuff. Enjoyed meals. Sing songs. Sing
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songs. Pick cotton. You got a job. Yeah. You can sing. No,
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you know, hey, Dan, we've both worked at places where we were
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not allowed to sing while we were working. That's true. What
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would have happened if back when you were at Starbucks, you
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would have just been singing the whole time. Oh, why does my
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brain immediately go to the racist song of the South movie?
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Interesting. Huh? Maybe because that's exactly what he's ****
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talking about. Interesting. Man, it's crazy. It's so crazy. I
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mean, there's the really basic versions of this like most
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libertarians are against the Civil Rights Act because
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they're like, why should your business be required to serve
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black people if you don't want to? Yeah. It's when they talk
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about freedom of association, they're not talking about like
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if you're in the underprivileged class, you should
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be allowed to associate with people who are privileged.
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Yes. They're talking about if you are white, you shouldn't
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have to deal with other people. Yeah. You shouldn't be forced
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to associate with other people and then they bring it into
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like labor laws and stuff like that and the absolutely most
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twisted ways. All of this is ****************. They're
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all racist con men. Sounds like it. Anyway, I have one more
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clip to close this out. Alex asks Kane about the WWE. He
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didn't ask about the NWO? No, he does not. Alright, let's
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hear it. He doesn't even ask about DX. I mean, Kane was a
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part of DX. Brother. He was an associate. He was tag champs
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with Xbox. He was an associate. He was in. He was in for my
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money. Okay. He asks about the WWE in terms of libertarianism.
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Okay. And this this answer is super **** up. He's going to
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wave that flag. Oh, it's the most libertarian place on the
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planet. It's it you're not far off but the details of the
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answer are so weird. Let's talk about World Wrestling
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Entertainment briefly. What's the average political makeup
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there? Are people waking up there? Are more people going to
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speak out there? Where do you think that's going because
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you've used your fame to help promote liberty. Are other
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folks going to be joining you and are you and what are you
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doing running for political office? I have no plans to run
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for political office now and maybe in the future, I might do
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that. As far as my colleagues, you know, it's the reason that
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most people don't pay attention to stuff is they're just trying
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to make a living, man. They're busy. Taxes. They're trying to
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take care of their families. You know, they're trying to
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deal with all the stuff that life gives you in general and
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then on top of that, we have this enormous paradigm shift
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which I believe is on the horizon but you know, like most
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people, I think our guys, they they do. There's a libertarian
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streak and as far as you know, we don't really like taxes that
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much because we're we have to pay our own taxes. We're
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independent contractors which means that we have to write a
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check out to the IRS and nothing will bring your religion
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faster than actually having to sit down and sign a big ****
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check over to the well said. Hey, listen, you gotta promise
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to come back and next time you're in Austin, come and
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studio. Alright, man. I will. Thanks for having me on. Thanks
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a lot. Powerful interview. Powerful. Powerful interview.
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He must have just been listening to Rogan. Oh
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brother. How **** stupid do you have to be to be so mad that
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you have to pay your taxes that like it turns you libertarian
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as opposed to looking at the situation you're in and being
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like, huh? Hey, wait a minute. This business that has been
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exploiting my labor for 20 years and making millions off
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of me playing first of all, a dentist character. Yeah. And
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then fake diesel. Yeah. And then this demon from hell where
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I get accidentally burned from time to time because pyrotechnics
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the same business that's destroyed most of my coworkers
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bodies to the point where they all need surgery and some of
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them kill their families. Some of them have killed their
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families. One of them has killed their family. Yeah. But
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others have killed themselves through drug abuse or literal
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suicide but you gotta remember this was when WV was big on
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like, hey, you need to go to rehab. We have our wellness
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policy and they were like, hey, in 2013, maybe all these dead
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wrestlers, all these wrestlers stop dying. So, they started
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patting themselves on the back real hard on that but Kane was
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**** around and doing work for them back when unprotected
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chair shots to the head for sure were the modus operandi.
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Absolutely. That was just the normal thing. People be and
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hey, no health care. Well, you know, it's going to hit you in
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the head with a **** chair. Go work somewhere else. If you
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don't want to, you know, the free market dictates that you
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must enjoy getting hit in the head with a chair and getting
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T.E. His pal JBL, you know, hit a lot of people in the head
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real hard with chairs. Yeah, a backstage even. And and and did
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a lot of other fun stuff. Yeah. I mean, this is so crazy to me
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how I'm like, I don't want to be mad at Kane. No. Except for
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for his performance in the ring. I feel like somebody
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indoctrinated him into libertarian ideas. You know,
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here's the deal. A lot of time on the road. You know, you're
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reading a lot of books. You're listening to a lot of Rush
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Limbaugh on the road. You know, he probably got indoctrinated
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and was like, yeah, versus somebody being like, this is
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**** so dumb that we are independent contractors. There's
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one clip where he mentions a guy named Kyle Bass. Okay. who
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he subscribes to like he subscribes to his beliefs. He's
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a hedge fund manager. Okay. I wish I still had this clip in
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because it turns out that Kyle Bass runs a hedge fund. Guess
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what the name is? Haman. Oh, wow. Okay. Which is interesting
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just for the parallels. Yeah. But yeah, I mean II totally
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agree with you. Someone must have like touched his ear a
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little bit. Sure. In some way because you can't you can't
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have a personal situation that is this like as exploitative as
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professional wrestlers have and then be like, oh no, the
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problem is that the business should have even more power.
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Yeah. Like do you think Vince should give you guys insurance?
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Heavens no. We don't want to be a bigger burden on that would
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be an encroachment on his personal liberties. What if he
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couldn't pay that and we had to go out of business? That would
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be so bad for him. Yeah. Also, he shouldn't have fed Shane. He
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could have sold Shane and Stephanie had he not wanted
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that burden. He kinda did in some ways. He kinda did. So. So that's
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the end of this Kane exploration. This I mean it's
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**** up. Yeah. It's a mess. Yeah. It's a mess. There's so
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many real issues that he could wrestle with. Sure. Spoiler
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pun. Yeah. But he didn't. Doesn't. And and he's just it's
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I think he's one of those. Well, I made my fortune doing
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my own thing. He probably was you know how you hear those
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stories of like professional basketball players who squander
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all their money. Yeah. When you hear a few who invest well and
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they're kinda **** about it. Yeah. About the the system
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that's in place. Yeah. I get the sense that maybe Kane made
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a lot of money pretty early and was smart about it. Oh yeah. And
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is now so secure. Like maybe he invested in some property and
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he rents it out to people. Yeah. Has like some rental
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properties. He flipped the house. I heard that recently.
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Yeah. He did. Yeah. He flipped the house. Okay. That's that's
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proof of my. Made a little money. Yeah. My idea. He
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probably. His real estate. I believe he owned a gym. That's
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a good way to get some coin coming in. Yeah. I mean there
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there are these things. Owning retail and like basic retail
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properties and like apartments. Yeah. That sort of
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thing. Any kind of land you can own is. Vince Russo opened a a
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CD store when the. Oh, Vince. Right after MP3s were really
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taking over. Like right after? Yeah. Swerve. Pretty much. Did
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not work out. I don't know. I I think it's pathetic. I think I
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think all of this is pathetic. I think the Von Meese Institute
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is pathetic. Yeah. I think the Austrian school is stupid.
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Yeah. There's a lot more complexity to it too and we're
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not dealing with it in like. This just sounds like
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something that sounds great at a bar of like. Yeah man. This
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government's taking all our money and you're just like
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okay. Only humans can act man. Society can't act. And then
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you're like okay. Then you do a little more research and
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you're like, oh, you know what? This is the answer. Stats are
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real. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that. Mm hmm. Marty, it's been
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fun. Dan, thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure. It's
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always a pleasure. People should check out your podcast.
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Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling. That's right. It's every
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Thursday. New episode on next week. Hundred. Hundred episode.
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Holy **** Celebrate the ninety-ninth now. Forget about
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the hundred. That's my my advice to you. Also, we got to
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like episode 150 or so of this show and I didn't even notice.
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Well, there you go. So, we we should we never numbered our
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episodes. That's the problem. You're putting out some too
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much. You're doing God's work. Too much. You're on iTunes.
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You're on Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling.com. That's right.
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That's right. That's right. Um that's all. Now, stand up
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dates. Sure. Sure. I'm around. Yeah, you do comedy. I do
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comedy. I'm around. That's the perfect plug. I'm around. I do
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comedy. Um we're on Knowledge Fight.com. That's our website.
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We're on Twitter at Knowledge Underscore Fight. Patreon.
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It's true. I'm a policy wonk. Yeah, I appreciate that very
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much, man. No problem. I appreciate all of our policy
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wonks. I'm gonna give a shout out to a couple. Yeah. Cuz I
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know you wanna hear some sound effects. Oh yeah. Uh we've
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completely forgot at the beginning of the show to talking
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too much. What about a what about a a drop from Alex? What
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are you talking about? Did you do it? I don't have an out of
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contact. Okay. Alright. I was going to cut just Kane is my
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guest. I was gonna play. Here, I'll play one. I'm racist.
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Okay, there you go. Oh **** How did we miss that? Yeah. Um I'd
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like to give a shout out to new policy wonk, Destiny. Thank you
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so much, Destiny. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much,
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Destiny. We appreciate it. Also, from the band Destiny's
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Child. No, that's no. Her child she's talking about. It's the
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mother. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. The mother of
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Destiny's Child. Yes. Um this one is big. This is a buddy of
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ours. He uh hey, buddy. Uh huh. He came to town to visit. So
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we've actually met this gentleman. Okay. He's a cool
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dude. Uh this guy you went out with after we had our wonderful
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tide lunch. No. Were you okay after that? I **** my pants. I
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didn't **** my pants but man did I make it home just in time.
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I was fine. Wait, what? Throwback to the Degrassi Days,
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spice report. You got the spice report sound bite. No. We had a
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spice report. We had a spice report and uh we went to get to
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the cocktail and we ran to get to the train. Yeah. And we're
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both like that might not have been a great idea. I it was a
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it was a photo finish to get to my bathroom. I don't remember.
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You were off to the art thing. Oh no. I went with Jordan and
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his girlfriend to go to the art uh screening. Oh and no I had
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to **** oh man. I had to **** but I was fine after that. Like
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I uh it was touch and go for a minute but it was fine. Um no
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this gentleman came to town months ago. Okay. And uh we met
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up and uh got some nice drinks and uh he lives in Austin. Okay.
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And uh we will be in Austin on June 15th. Yeah you will. To uh
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not Bullhorn, Alex Jones' studio but we'll be there to do
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a live show at Beerland uh and I appreciate uh John bumping up
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his donation. He is now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're
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brilliant. Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of
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poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black
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accent. He's a loser. Little little titty baby. I don't want
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to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank
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you, John. Yeah. Yeah. We are you can uh find our Patreon at
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Knowledge Fight.com. Just quickly support the show.
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Titty baby. We're also on Facebook. We have a uh a group
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on Facebook called go home and tell your mother you're
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brilliant. Uh tell your mother you're a titty baby. Yeah.
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That should have been the name of it. There's a lot of things
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that I wish I could rename. II don't think the Facebook group
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I'd like to rename. Are you happy with Knowledge Fight? No,
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I am and I'm not. I'm fine with it now but I wish I would have
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called the show They're All Con Men. Like that because that's
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more the point of all this. Yeah. Everyone is running a
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scam. Yeah. These are all people. These are all get rich
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quick people. These are all people who generally have ties
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to gold sale operations. They're all **** with you.
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Yeah. And that's all the the right wing is anymore. Follow
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the money, baby. Follow the money. Quibono. It's all scams
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but anyway, Marty, this has been a lot of fun. Hey, it's
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been uh uh a whole lot of fun here. Thanks for coming. Thanks
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for having me. Um until next time, uh oh wait. What? The end
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of the show. Someone's gotta be told to **** themselves. Ah
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that's right. And since you're the guest, you get to choose.
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Obviously, the easy answer is Glenn Jacobs. It is. AKA Kane.
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It is. It is the easy answer. Um but I I still I still like
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Kane. So, um I'm going to I'm going to tell um uh I mean,
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Jeff Jarrett did come up. Hey, I love Jeff Jarrett. Jeff
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Jarrett. Shut up. I love Jeff Jarrett. He's he's a he's a a
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very cool dude. Yeah. He's a okay in my book. Um I'm going
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to say Vince McMahon can **** off. Yeah. Why not? Andy in
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Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I
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love you.
