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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed
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We are Dan. Yes, sir. Dan, if you were trying to explain this show to one of our many
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Utterly useless Democratic senators. Oh geez the ones who are you're on the warpath today awful who are just
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murderously terrible in every possible fucking way Dan, how would you explain this show to these
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Incompetent moronic monsters that we have elected to lead us. Well first I would say a podcast is like a radio show
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That's a good start because they're all fucking old and stupid exactly that would be the first step
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That's a good way to go and then pass that I would just describe it the way I describe it to anybody. Oh, yeah
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Fuck you right off the bat. Come on. That was your tone dip. It was you did it
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I was trying to put a little jazz. Yeah, I know I put a little English into the mix you did
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Yeah, it was great. That's show business. I would say that I know a lot about Alex Jones
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones. It's a perfect summation
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Oh, and we would do a better job at your stupid fucking gig you idiots. Oh you don't
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Politician hate them so much very ineffectual you Nancy Pelosi. You're garbage. Okay. All right
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That's right. Sometimes you got to let that steam vent. Oh, I'm getting a little bit of a fucking awful. I understand man
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I understand so useless. Yeah, uh, so Jordan today, we're going to be going into the past sure
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We're thank God. We are going present is great. Dan. We're going I don't even know why we would talk about the present
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Things are too good. It's boring. So for those people who have been following our escapades in the recent
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Present time frame. Yeah with going back to the past. They've noticed we've gone back to June
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We're going going down to June going back to June 2009
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They before they have been doing yeah. Yeah, and I picked that arbitrarily sort of to some extent because I
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The episodes I was listening in 2008 are not great
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Yeah, and they're on unusable, but I realized that maybe we should go back
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Oh, you June might not be the best place to start. Okay to the beginning of the all right. All right spoiler alert
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Buddy told me it reminded me that
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Something happened in January of 2009 to be very interesting to get Alex Jones's take off the inauguration of Barack Obama
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No, well that that should be coming up. Yes, but it's not that
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Specifically, it's something that we're going to run into
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And we're going to be well, we'll deal with it as we go through this episode
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Today's episode is January 7th through 9th of 2009
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You're going to be going on a very interesting roller coaster today because there's a lot of stuff that I discovered
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looking into
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2009 Alex that you aren't ready for okay, but there are some familiar pieces and here's an out of context drop
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That's sort of familiar. All right
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Those beautiful mammary glands. Okay. All right. All right, Dan. I think you may have forgotten some business to do up top
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No, I just wanted to get the out of context drop out of the way. Okay
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I want to say I wanted to give a flavor of the the things to come and then now I would like exactly
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beautiful mammary glass
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After that, he starts laughing is like the guys in the booth like that one. Oh boy
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So there's no way he was a
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guilty of the sexual assault lawsuit that he's
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sexual harassment complaint now now no chance
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Um, so before we get into the show very important that we give some shout outs to donors
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I want to say just big picture. We recently crossed the hundred donor mark. No shit hundred plus policy wonks out there
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That's fucking crazy is nuts when we started this show. I didn't think there would be ten
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I didn't think there would be five quite frankly and now we're at a point where we're over a hundred
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Well, you had some people from your former show and I kind of assume we would have get rid of them
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We did lose a number of them. Well, I assumed we would have lost all of them and no one would have ever jumped back
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On board very reasonably. We lost comedian Tommy McNamara's mom that donated to my show. Damn it
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Yeah, we got to talk to Tommy Mac
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It's this I mean, it's just so great
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We're at a place where this is the show is going to be able to allow me to live much more stably
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And we appreciate it so much everybody
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It's it's life-changing levels of support and I really really really appreciate it agreed
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I don't have to buy you cigarettes anymore
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Please feel the
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This the love and appreciation and every time we play these drops because it it's it's it's from the heart
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It's pure pure beauty. So first I'd like to give a shout out to new policy wonk mark what's going on out there mark?
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much mark mark. How do they let you donate from jail?
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Who are you talking about? He loves our shows about him. He just loves
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Yeah, it's raptor man. Mark loves hearing about himself. That's what it's really all about. Thank you mark Richards
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Oh, that's you are a murderer, but that is very kind of you. That's very sweet
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Oh, so they do take donations from murderers
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So if you have murdered feet do not feel like unlike voting. Mm-hmm. You are still able to donate to our show
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This one is not
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This one is not something you can jazz on because I actually know is it the BTK killer?
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No, this one. I this one
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I know I'm gonna give a specific shout out to this dude's a great rapper and he's on the road right now with our friend
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Far out. No shit. I think they're still on the road
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I'm really bad at remembering dates, but they had a tour of the the Northeast big shout out
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Thank you so much for supporting the show. I nine
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I'm a policy wonk really appreciate it. Thank you. So very much got some great music out there. Everyone should go check out
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Um also next also there there just no there are just no names to play off if your name is I nine
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There's no other there's no other
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That's gonna be tough like give a shout out to someone who's coming in as a globalist bump their donation up
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Shout out and thank you so much John
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I'm a policy wonk
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Thank you very much I believe this is John wick if I recall correctly like killing dogs
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He does not like dogs getting killed in any form. I was gonna say John Arbuckle John Arbuckle
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You always go real people. Wait, you didn't this time. No, that was not. All right, wait
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You can't use John wick. That's someone's alias who already has donated. That's what I'm saying. I thought this guy bumped his donation up
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I thought this was the guy who earlier I referenced as being John what if someone has an obvious gnome de plume
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I'm gonna just go ahead and use it
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I just want to put people's business on the streets if they use their oh
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No, that's right. Cuz we did have a guy who donated as John wick. That's what I was saying
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That's now that well now I've messed it up. I apologize dance or I quit finally I give up finally one more shout out
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This is a very very special shout out
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Yeah, so this gentleman was in town last weekend and we had a very nice time hanging out with him and his girlfriend
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Oh shit, it was a blast meeting him and we very very cool. Thank you so much. Jim. You are now a technocrat
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I'm a policy wonk
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Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
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Jar-jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little titty, baby
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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ
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Thank you so much Jim. Thank you so much Jim and you and
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Your significant other were absolutely fantastic to talk to absolutely very very brilliant people
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Absolutely always a thrill when we get to meet meet folks. It's a treat for us
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I believe I believe that's fair to say yeah, and we're super excited to meet a bunch of folks down in Austin
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Oh, we're down there in June. That'll be most of the thrill. I think oh, yeah
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The show will be secondary to just know there's in folks who have sent me nice messages every time we meet people
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there's a part of me that's like I
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Didn't think you were real
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I kind of assumed this is more of an elaborate scam that you are perpetrating on me in order to get me to feel like
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psychological study
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like somehow I am
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Like I have cancer or something and you're just trying to make my last days as exciting as possible
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You're like look our fan base is growing. There's nobody actually listening. Why does it have to be an either-or?
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I
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Don't understand why it's got to be a day. That's a fair point. But no, it's
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It's great. I'm emotionally overwhelmed. And the only thing you can do in situations like that is just keep on moving forward
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So we're done
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We're gonna keep on moving forward with the show. All right, let's get to it. All right, so Jordan today we start on January
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7th of
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2009 right and let me say something to you
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This first clip is gonna blow your goddamn mind
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All right
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This is what Alex starts out the show talking about and he spends most of the show talking about this
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You would never expect these kinds of things to come out of Alex Jones's mouth in 2018 or 2015
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Anywhere that we've looked into him
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And that brings me to San Francisco. Oh, no, I'm gonna get into this later in the broadcast
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Once we go live at prison planet TV because I want to show the clips
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The witnesses were all saying that
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They took the black men off the train there have been a report of people yelling and screaming at each other and arguing on the train
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and that they then were putting them in handcuffs and
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That the man wasn't resisting that they shot him in the back
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and
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the police and we have their first press conferences said no, that's not true and
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Then they use this weird lawyer speak to say there was a altercation an argument
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and
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Then the officers when the officers shot him now would legally speak he's talking about the
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Argument on the train between the men that had the police respond, but psychologically
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And they do this on the news to the newscast later. They're sandwiching that in with oh, he did something an altercation with police
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What the fuck?
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It shouldn't be mm-hmm
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But it is a huge deal to hear Alex Jones coming out against the shooting of black people
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Absolutely. That is it should not be it shouldn't even be a conversation. There should never have been a question
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It's nuts. It should have just been like we should all be like hey cops are murdering black people specifically
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Yeah, that is a bad thing. Now. Alex would be like anything probably had it coming when I
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He's against it. Where did this Alex go when I turned this on and when I was listening to this episode and he said that
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I gasped
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It shouldn't matter I almost fainted it shouldn't be a
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Generational thing it shouldn't be every decade. He decides which fucking group of people is fine for the cops to shoot here
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Yeah, so what he's referring to is there was a guy by the name of Oscar Grant who was out partying
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I assume because it was on New Year's Eve. It was about 2 a.m. On New Year's Day
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2009 and there were reports that there was some fighting on a BART train in San Francisco. Yeah, and
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You know the details are murky in terms of the specifics of it
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But who cares the long and short of it are the cops tried to arrest this guy
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They had him down on the ground with a knee to his back and then I need to his back
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But they they were trying to handcuff him it as I understand it
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I've looked I've looked into this and from what I understand they were trying to handcuff him
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But he was like they couldn't get his hands, right?
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So he wasn't in handcuffs when they shot him, which is a meaningless point to me, right?
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But they the cops shot him in the back
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and then he died on the way to the to the station and there was a bit of there was some
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Obviously understandable protests afterwards. Yeah, the cop did get in trouble from what I recall
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I believe he did you end up getting he at least resigned. Let me see because I think I have
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I think I have the the details here
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Somehow that was a better time Christ. What do you mean?
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I mean, at least he received at least he had some sort of punishment for it. I guess I don't know. Uh-huh
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I don't know man. That's all fucked up. Yeah, and I believe what was it said was it today or yesterday that?
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Alabama put up a monument to the victims of lynchings. Mm-hmm
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Yeah, it's a good thing that that's over. Mm-hmm. It's a good thing. We don't have to worry about
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a
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state sponsored murders
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So apparently in July of 2010 a jury found the cop
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Johannes Mearsley guilty of involuntary manslaughter
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They're not guilty of charges of second-degree murder or voluntary manslaughter. So that's not great
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They also found him guilty of gun enhancement charge
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They could have added 10 years to his sentence made him ineligible for probation and required him to serve 85% of his sentence
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So that's not great
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But taking super gun vitality. Yeah, that's not great
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But at least I mean in terms of the turn of the end results
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We see of so many of these shootings with cops. At least there was something. Yeah, which isn't which is not good enough
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It's bad, but it's all bad
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but the weirdest part about this is that Alex is against the cops and in favor of
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The murder victim right Oscar Grant. Well, he refuses to say his name. That is that is kind of weird
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well, but if you're going to you don't want to say his name that humanizes and what you're trying to do is
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I'm hearing from the chair room that the case was thrown out. I don't know if that's the case. I'm operating on
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That might be the case. I'm all
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I'm operating on incomplete information about the the end turnout of this. So I don't know. Thanks chat room. Yeah
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Bummin, thanks for bumming me out still further. What's more important though? Is that it's kind of clearly assessing the situation
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He's dealing with it in a much more real way. Yeah. Oh, oh, I read the message in the chat room wrong. Never mind
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Sorry. All right, then I'm back to happy again, I guess. Yeah, is that what was going on?
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I don't believe I was ever happy
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I think that that that just changed my disappointment and sadness levels from from about yay high
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To about yay low. I'm gonna stop responding to messages. I don't fully understand probably a good idea. There we go
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So, you know Alex is against it. He's against the shooting. He's
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He's against the cops good. Good boy Alex. He goes on to say this
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It's not even the issue that they murder this guy. No, that is a big issue. It's that they make
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Excuses now the videos have come out and are saying well, he thought it was his taser
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It was taser confusion may have been the issue here though. Is that they lied?
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the police officials
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With the transit authority lied about it and they need to go to jail. So first of all
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That is the the end the end point is good
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It's home. I don't know how to deal with that. I told you I don't even understand. I don't understand how that sentence can
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What what I believe the issue isn't that they murdered the guy
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Well, first of all, that's kind of like the it's not that you cheated on me. It's that you lied about it. Yes
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Oh, that's very weird
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But then like that sentence I think is fairly philosophically consistent with what Alex pretends to be. You know what I mean?
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Uh-huh, like he's giving credit or leeway to some extent but still being like you need to go to prison
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You lied about shooting a guy. Yeah
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But the the issue there is that it almost seems like more his response had they just been like oh, yeah
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We murdered that guy. He would have been like well see
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No good for them. I don't think like if they were just told the joke or what I don't think
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What would he prefer the outcome be I think they that they apologize know because then he would be then if they took
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responsibility for it then he would be mad if they didn't get the
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Direct consequences of admitting. Oh, we killed this guy, right?
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I think which they won't all this is really to illustrate and this clips not done
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But all this is to illustrate is that Alex is fucking anti-cop in 2009. He's all over the place. He does not like cops
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No, but slightly pro-murder. I'm not even so much focused on the police officer clearly in a frenzy
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Who pulls his gun out
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Aims at the man's back and kills him because you can see the police officers response where he drops the
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Drops his hand with a gun and starts cussing going what the hell what the hell just happened. I
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Believe he probably did think it was his taser
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And I'm trying to be fair here. I don't because I quote hate cops just then don't know
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He clearly killed him in cold blood and meant to do it. That could be the case. We don't know
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But the way he reacted every killed the guy every shot the poor man who did nothing wrong
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Looks like he was shocked
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Doesn't matter you still need to go to jail for manslaughter
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He to spend a few years in prison
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You
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Killed somebody their life is over. They did nothing wrong. This is crazy. This is crazy from like such a departure
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This is nuts
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We've been doing this show mm-hmm for a long time now almost a year and a half now
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that is
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crazy very much
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That's the that's the first time I've been genuinely shocked in a good long while
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Well, because I am legitimately
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Because there's no part of it where he's trying to blame the globalists
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There's no there's no part of it where he's saying he's fake or the thing is fake or anything like that
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He's not even asserting anything wildly. He's even leaving it open
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He's like we don't know the facts for sure. What we do know is that this man was killed. Yeah
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Illegally you go to this man should go to prison for it, right? Right. There's no there's no like
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I know he murdered that guy. There's no I know he didn't murder that guy
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There's no like it's all the globalist plot to trick us into thinking you murdered that guy and that guy isn't even actually murdered
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Right now there's nothing it's just him with a measured reasonable response
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Now it is like maybe giving too far of a birth too wide of a birth to be like
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You know, I believe that he might have thought it was the taser but he this is where he's operating from now
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It's still within what I would describe as the acceptable realm of conversation kind of agree
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It's where it's a kind of conversation while you can have it's wild. Yeah, and then get this
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the issue is
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Studying police agencies
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They lie more often than they tell the truth. No
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In bananas you and the truth suits them they lie. It is a culture of lying and deceit and I'm tired of it. What?
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Fucking hyperventilating it cops are liars
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It's a culture of lying it is right
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Man
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It's wild now. I am starting to believe in the globalists because now it is very clear that
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some shadowy organization
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Murdered Alex Jones who at this time perhaps was Bill Hicks
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Okay, and then replaced him with the monster that we see now as controlled
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Opposition it to make sure that he's his insanity is ignored. It's an interesting possibility
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I'd say I'd say Occam's razor would probably killed him. Yeah, probably. Yeah Occam's razor would tell me
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That he just started taking a bunch of his own supplements and went crazy. Hmm. Maybe not. I don't know
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It's very difficult for me to figure out like because this is a huge curveball and to see like yeah, that's wild
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How does this evolve into the guy we know now?
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Like this is like again, I disagree with you little I disagree with this
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This guy screamed about Colin Kaepernick for months months for months
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Yeah
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And all he did was just kneel on the field in protest of a thing that Alex in
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2009 is super aware of the problem. Super aware is an issue. Yeah
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Advocating for jail time. Mm-hmm. Yep. This is bananas
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You know if you want to unprecedented if you want to become even more sympathetic to him. No, listen to this next clip. No
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All
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Right, this is all it is isn't it you're just gonna play the intro music
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Oh
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I'm going to chase the sky and the sun is going to burn
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The sun is going to burn into a cinder
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Before we ever pass away the gas
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And we're gonna ride
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And we're gonna ride
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We're gonna ride
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Ride like the one-eyed jack of diamonds
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Ride like the one-eyed jack of diamonds
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We're gonna ride
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Endless predicts 40% unemployment. No recovery
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Weird transition
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Are those the next lyrics in the song? No
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Johnny Cash doesn't come in with that verse? No
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Holy shit. That's like
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That's unbelievable because again it just goes back to that like he fucking loves good country
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He loves the highwaymen. I don't know man
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I'm confused. I'm out of my game. That pivot is professional level
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Singing along to we're gonna ride to analyst predict 40% unemployment
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I'm having a great time. I don't want to scare you. It's so weird
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I don't know what to do. Yeah. I'm so confused
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I feel like we've started all over again. We have. And I have to rewire
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all of my hatred for Alex Jones knowing full well that in the past he was
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less of a piece of shit. He's still a piece of shit. We've done episodes in this time
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period before but this is bananas. Well there's a lot of stuff and I don't have a lot of clips of these
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but there's a lot of stuff that you can trace
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literal parallels from back then to now
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There's catch phrases that he's using nine years ago and still using now
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The alternative media is coming up and the mainstream media's ratings are down
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He has a philosophy of if someone's being attacked that probably means they're right
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which is consistent all throughout this time frame. So there's a lot of
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things that are really common but yeah I think what you're more going to have to wrestle with is like
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you know the future. Yeah this isn't great. Because you can't look at this guy without knowing
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what ends up happening. I know. You've read the end of the story. This is baby Hitler all over again
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To some extent. Whenever I went back in time and hung out with baby Hitler for a while. He was very cute. So
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that's it for January 7th. Now we get onto January 8th. Nothing
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else happened? No I mean it did. How does he just
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show up in that little spot and that's all you have from January 7th? Was there any context to that?
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No most of it's really boring. He talks a lot more about. I know it's really boring. I just want like some kind of
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how did this. Now that this is a mystery all over again. Have you watched
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Endgame with me? Yes. It's a lot of that. Okay. All right. He talks about
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the trans Texas corridor. That road that they're really mad about. And about how like hey they're
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pretending it's stopped but it's not. Okay fair enough. He has an interview
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with a guy named Eric Plumlee. No relation to Tosh Plumlee. What about Mason
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Plumlee? Nope not in there. He has an interview with him and he wants it to be an interview about like the
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government surveilling you and stuff like that. Is it? Well no but Eric Plumlee
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is a surveillance lawyer but it turns out his specialty is like you trying to bug your
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wife's phone. Yeah yeah he's a P.I. lawyer isn't he? Yeah yeah yeah. So the interview doesn't
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go really far because every time he tries to talk about bigger picture stuff Eric Plumlee
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is kind of like. That's outside of my purview. Yeah. Gotcha. He has an interview with Ray McGovern
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who used to be involved in like the daily briefings for Reagan and stuff like that. Right. And it's
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not it's not really all that substantial. Like it's just kind of
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endgame stuff. Okay. You know it. I'm just I'm just trying to get a fuller picture
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of this man who I have never met before in my entire life. It's a lot of endgame stuff.
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And then this very weird position on this shooting of. How long did
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he talk about it for a long time or was it just like I'm going to drop in give you my
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thoughts. Going to get right back into that road. I hate roads. No I would say it's a good
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half hour at least of the show maybe even more dedicated to this. But
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again there's less empathy for the victim than you want. Well he doesn't have empathy.
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And more anger at the cops. But at least I'm happier with that. It's a road
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in at least. Which is very very strange and not like anything we've ever seen from Alex.
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And it gets even weirder. This is such an alternate universe right now. January 8th
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gets even weirder. OK. Listen to this shit. And now I've seen more
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of this officer's body language up close and he looks like he's completely out of his
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mind. He's resigned from the force. And now the police are saying well we're
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no longer involved in this because he's resigned. So now it's not our issue. And
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now eternal affairs is investigating. What does that mean? So
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a cop murders somebody either capital murder
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premeditated or whether it's it's manslaughter or whether it's
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accidental. And I think clearly it's it's pointing towards capital murder. Now this guy's a lunatic. I mean
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I could see him getting off on a insanity plea maybe
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because you watching all the gun out. He cites it. And you know you know the difference between
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a black what looks like a Glock or heckler and coke
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classic standard issue.
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Handgun looks like nine millimeter 40 cal something along those lines we don't know yet they've they've kept that secret.
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And he cites it. Holds the shot for about two seconds and shoots the
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guy in the back. Now I'd said maybe it was taser confusion. But now watching him from a closer
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video angle off somebody's cell phone camera. He looks like a vampiric
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demon or something. He looks like Bela Lugosi. He just his eyes are completely crazed.
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He looks like a lunatic. So that's not great. But at least the point is right.
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You know like you take this satanic demon stuff. Now that reminds me of the
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Alex Jones I know. Sure. At the very least he's not a human being. He's a literal demon.
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Right. Which which again it's a little it's a little cowardly in terms of like not allowing humans
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to take responsibility for their actions like that. Right. But at least like the point is right
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that he watched another video and you can see him citing it. And that means that he knew it wasn't a taser. Exactly.
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So that's the point behind what he's trying to say. And it's like
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yeah man. I don't I don't. Mm hmm.
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That's crazy. Pretty nuts. The idea of Alex Jones revising his theories based
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on new information is that alone. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't get this. That is super.
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He didn't even double down on his. Yeah. He he grew as well.
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He got crazier with it. He modified. He did. He did. His narrative
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didn't become more a
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concrete. It only got shaken and his beliefs changed based upon that.
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I can't process this information. No. Alex is not doubling down. The only Alex
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I know and understand is the Alex who doubles down. Yeah. Alex who
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waffles like a little bitch. Right. It was the only two I know. And the Alex who cries. Yeah.
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Cries. Cries. Yell cries. Cries. Drunks. Sure. Kids drunks. Sure. Sure. Yep.
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So this position that he's taken on the shooting is really wild. Yeah. And then in the aftermath
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of the shooting obviously there were a bunch of protests and people were rightly mad
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about the situation. Now we get back to status quo Alex Jones. He's definitely against
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these protests. Well in present day he'd be super against them. Yeah.
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This overbarked shooting turned violent San Francisco Chronicle. I watched video of it
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when police started getting in people's faces and telling them to disperse that
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they were not an authorized permitted crowd. They began throwing
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soda bottles and things at the police car windows. They overturned
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police cars. Burned police cars. The police began firing rubber
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bullets at the crowd. And you know other people are doing this. They don't like seeing
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a fellow human being murdered execution style and then the system making
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excuses for it. If you want any respect from the public you have to punish
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your officers when they murder people in cold blood. But no you've
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been caught lying. What the fuck. You thought that entire
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time he was ramping up to talk shit about the protesters. He was
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defending them or justifying it. Yep. This is pretty nuts.
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Yeah. Dan. Yeah I know. Dan I had a whole bunch of anger in the
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in the holster for today and now it is gone. Well I take it. It is just fucking
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pure shock and confusion. I texted you before the show that I had something really confusing for you.
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I'm so confused. Yeah I know. I don't even I don't even I what
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is this show if I think he's he's advocating for a violent
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response. He's not necessarily advocating but he's justifying a violent response to
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police action that is again unlawful in and of itself. How is this
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a possible thing. He's at very least like coherently explaining
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why that happened. Yeah. Oh yeah. The violence is the
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outlet of the people who can't be writing in the voice of the unheard. Yeah exactly.
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Yeah. I don't know man. It's to me just incredibly
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bizarre. I don't know. It's weird. I'm confused. And again
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I don't I don't know what to do Dan. I don't either. So at
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this point we invent time travel is there is there like a like if we're
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if we're going to indulge multiverse theory which I think is probably true if we get
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into a time machine is there any way that we can talk to the Alex Jones from this time
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and then put him on a completely different path like like just just butterfly.
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We don't know just chaos theory butterfly. We don't have the money. Just throw a little rock at him.
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Yeah. And then all of a sudden he grows into an activist like what's going on here.
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No I don't think it would be possible. But again I'm
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not. Maybe we just eat his brains and take his strength at this time. I'm not doing this intentionally
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to butter you up. I'm playing you the clips that are relevant in the order they come.
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This next clip made me smile. What are you doing to me. This next
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clip. Dan this is one of the only you are fucking with my head. I know that we've talked about
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whenever he listens to Highwaymen it's kind of like that's a happy Alex. Yeah. You can hear
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a couple moments in this next clip where it's like this is absurdly happy Alex.
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I'll never forget when I was a teenager in Dallas other than
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getting a lot of fistfights. I was very clean.
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Again didn't like drugs. I tried a few every time I hated them. I like alcohol.
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Although we can get our hands on it. That was it. And they would just call kids in all
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day long to the office and not just myself and say we know you're a drug dealer. We know you're
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stealing stereos and you're going to work for us now. And I said no and then they got very
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upset. But I mean this is just standard. I'll never forget the cops saying well if you didn't steal those stereos
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I know you're doing something illegal. And I was self-righteous and said yeah I've stolen
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beer out of the golf carts. That's how
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teenagers got their beer in Rockwall Texas is there were golf
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courses all over the community in different neighborhoods and before I even had
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a car or a motorcycle or a moped we would walk sometimes
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a couple miles over our buddy's houses and I only stole beer a couple
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times but I had money to do it all the time to the point of not
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leaving their ice chest in the back of their golf carts and they'd all be in the different golf
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I'm already digressing with this story. The point is that I
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said yeah I've stolen beer. We know you've done a lot more than that. This was years after
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I'd stolen beer out of ice chest. Can you imagine being 13
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14 years old and you run up grab a six pack a bottle of wine out of the back of the ice chest
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run off in the woods and drink it with your buddies and roll around in the leaves
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that's about the extent of it. What are you doing? That's human.
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They're rolling around in the leaves? Yeah you're drunk like idiots when you're 13 rolling around at the park.
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Rolling around in the leaves. That's a little bit weird. No it's not.
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It is delightful but it turns him into a weird elf figure. This isn't over.
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Convertible. We could go to one easy mart. We had to walk about two miles because the
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other convenience stores on the main highway by our neighborhood wouldn't sell you cigarettes but
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the easy mart would. But I did one time that was a convertible
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open with a pack of Marlboro Reds laying on
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the dash. Let's just have a little confession hour here and I grabbed that pack of cigarettes and I smoked
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them. That's the extent of my great thievery.
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Meanwhile we're criminals. The entire population are criminals and we deserve it. We deserve
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to be shot in the back because assuredly we did something wrong in our lives or we deserve to be framed for a murder
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because assuredly we did something wrong in our lives. But then the police just run around framing whoever they want
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stealing houses, stealing homes. So like I mean he's talking about
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eminent domain there at the end and we agree with him on that too. But what's interesting to me about that clip is it's two
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minutes or so of him getting wistful and telling adorable relatable
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human stories about stealing booze as a kid or like you see some
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cigarettes in an open car and you scamper off and you smoke them. Like that's so
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relatable and human. It's cute. It is downright
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cute. That is what it is. In this world for sure. It is scampish
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and it is. It could be in the movie American Graffiti. It is cute as fuck.
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But did you notice there at the end like he keeps losing the
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point of why he's telling these stories. He's having too much fun. He's caught up in sentiment and he forgets
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that he's trying to talk about these rock wall like teachers trying to turn into
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a snitch or something like that. He forgets that and so he's. And he's what?
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Like he's 34? 33 at this time? At this point. Yeah. Yeah.
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Give or take. Or 45. We don't actually know his age.
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On record he's 34. Yeah.
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I mean I'm fascinated by the losing yourself in sentiment telling these stories
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and then needing to get back on track. And so he jumps back on to the cops think we're all
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guilty. You know like that's where his mind gets back onto the narrative. And it's
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just to me it's like your brain worked better. This turns me
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this turns the whole Alex Jones show now into a weird
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behind the music for me. Because this has turned into exactly that narrative. Like he's
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growing up. He's having a carefree happy lifestyle. Getting into some scampish trouble.
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Gets a radio show. Gets a you know his daddy gives him all the money.
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He starts to build a little following for himself. Gets right around to this time period.
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Really living his best life. He's a conspiracy theorist. He's spouting nonsense.
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He pretends he called 9-11. He's singing with the highwaymen. And then at a certain point
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he starts to get obsessed with money. It's all about money to him. I mean it could be. And he thinks it's
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going to make him happier. But it doesn't Dan. The money only adds problems to
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what's going on. He cheats on his wife. Maybe. We don't know that.
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Come on. He's cheating on his current wife right now. I don't know.
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Jordan your theory is interesting and compelling and I used to love that show.
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But I would say that you're forgetting that he made Endgame before this.
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That's a good point. He was still having fun in Endgame though.
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Yeah he had a bullhorn. Come on. We're going to learn a lot about that bullhorn. I love it.
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I want to know the bullhorn's backstory. You're going to hear a bit of it.
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You're going to learn more about that bullhorn than you want to. You don't want to learn about that bullhorn.
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So when I told you I was reminded of January in 2009 it's for a very specific reason.
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Yes. That's why we went back to this date specifically to relaunch our 2009 investigation
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going forward. And that is because on January 7th 2009 I will read to you from the Guardian article from that very day.
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Gazprom the state-owned Russian gas group today cut off all supplies to Europe traveling through the Ukrainian pipelines
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intensifying the political and economic crisis that has arisen out of payments a payment dispute between the two countries.
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Amid evidence that people in Eastern Europe are being deprived of heating as the Arctic cold snap continues
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Russia and Ukraine continue to blame each other for the deadlock.
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Gazprom accuses Ukraine of shutting down the fourth and last open pipeline crossing the country
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while officials at Naftagaz, Ukraine's state energy firm simply said quote words fail us.
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Russia supplies a quarter of Europe's gas and 80 percent of this transits through Ukraine.
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As shortages hit Western Europe and intensify in the south and east
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EU governments will meet on Friday to consider sharing supplies held in storage.
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So we'll get more into it after this clip but suffice it to say at this point because of some contractual disputes
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on January 7th Russia cut off oil or gas that was most of the supplies for 18 countries that all ran through Ukraine
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because of disagreements with their financial... In terms of any argument public like this in like a large scale
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I am immediately going to side with the person who has the least wordy response
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like if the Ukraine's response is like dude I don't even know what that guy's talking about
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I'm immediately like yeah yeah Ukraine is right. Words fail us is a strong response.
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Yeah yeah yeah. For real guys you can't believe this guy.
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So that was on January 7th and the crisis had been sort of escalating for a few days prior
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because I believe it was on the 5th that Russia cut off most of the supply and then on the 7th cut off all of it.
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What were they doing on the 6th? Just hanging out. Just chilling?
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But on the 7th Alex didn't even bring it up and on the 8th he says this.
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And now Russia because of Ukraine threatening to renege on their lease of a naval port
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and moving weapons systems up against the border Russia cut back on some of the basically free gas they've been giving them
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as a subsidy as part of that deal and so what did Ukraine do? They just cut off gas to Europe.
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People could die there folks. I mean below zero in many of those countries. In fact people are dying the press is reporting.
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You know I saw a blurb about this in email and I didn't believe it and I googled it and it was our very own KVUE Austin TV
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New law restricts resale of kids products.
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Wait that was a quick turnaround.
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I kept that last part in just to illustrate how quickly he pivots on this.
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That was quick.
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And he doesn't fucking talk about it ever again.
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Wait what?
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He drops that one line and he's like hey and I heard that kids are not allowed to use toys anymore.
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In as much as I've listened to he does not bring it back up and that's crazy.
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Ukraine is making sure people die. Kids they're not allowed to buy toys anymore.
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But it's important to note that he's putting the onus on Ukraine shutting it off.
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Oh of course.
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See now this is the Alex. Now we're back in comfortable territory.
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Alex joining with Russia on literally anything is where I am comfortable.
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But this is very very strange.
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Yeah.
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Because it's so dismissive. It's so like here's a ten second blurb about this and then we're moving on to hey you can't resell cribs.
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Right.
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Or whatever.
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Can't do it.
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Could get hurt.
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I read a report from the Oxford Institute of Energy studies about the crisis because I wanted to get a good handle on what the situation was.
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Like whether it was reasonable in any way for Alex to think that Ukraine was behind the actual shutting off of the gas.
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Of course.
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Because he's insinuating that Ukraine is killing Europeans.
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Right.
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Which is the worst crime you can commit.
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So I'm going to read you some of the salient points from this 60 page report that the Oxford Energy Institute put out.
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Love their dictionary by the way.
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Quote the night of the 5th of January and early hours of the 6th of January were possibly the key moments in the crisis as far as deliveries to Europe were concerned.
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On the 5th a televised and rather obviously staged conversation between Prime Minister Putin and Gazprom CEO Miller rehearsed all the Russian grievances against Ukraine
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which culminated in Putin agreeing with Miller's proposal to reduce the gas flows and instructing him to inform Gazprom's European partners about the reasons for the action.
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At this point on the 7th of January the second and more serious stage of the dispute began.
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Gas was cut off completely to countries in southeastern Europe which are 100% dependent on Russian imports and partially to other countries for 13 days.
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Russian and Ukrainian sides blamed each other and neither displayed great urgency about moving towards agreement.
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It is important to underline the unprecedented nature of this situation.
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Supplies to Europe had never been halted since the gas transit system was built in Soviet times.
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The two sides finally negotiated two new contracts covering supply and transit which were signed on the 19th of January.
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Gas flows to Europe restarted on the morning of the 20th and two days later were returning to normal levels.
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So that's sort of just a description of what happened and then they get to their conclusions.
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A crisis in Russia-Ukraine bilateral gas relations is not in itself a surprise.
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Many including ourselves had seen it coming as long ago as the summer of 2008.
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The surprise indeed the shock was that both sides allowed the dispute to escalate from disagreements about debts, prices and transit tariffs to the point where supplies to Europe were completely shut off
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and then allowed the situation to continue for two weeks in the middle of winter with serious adverse humanitarian consequences for especially southeast European countries.
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We do not believe the often cited desire of the Russian government to use energy as an economic or political weapon against European countries played any part in this crisis.
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Russia's relationship with Europe and the gas sphere is and will remain one of mutual dependence.
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While Europe depends heavily on Russian gas supplies, Russia which here means both Gazprom and the Russian state relies heavily on revenues generated from European sales.
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By contrast, the critical Russian decision to cut back deliveries on the 5th of January, Russia did it, was an unnecessarily risky and commercially irrational action at this stage of the dispute.
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That decision may have reflected Prime Minister Putin's anger and frustration and been aimed at punishing Ukraine for its repeated threats to disrupt transit.
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Forty years of Russia's reputation as a secure gas supplier and Ukraine's reputation as a secure transit country have been damaged, probably irreparably.
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The Russian government almost certainly personalized to Prime Minister Putin, which took the decisions which eventually led on the 7th of January to the complete interruption of European supplies through the Ukrainian transit network,
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should have recognized these consequences and had the option of stepping back.
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So if I understand correctly, what they said was Putin threw a tantrum.
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It seems like that's the most likely explanation that people who have studied the case on it is.
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Well that in the, well now that you go back and you look at the way that they, one of the, one of the, I mean, one of the narratives that emerged with the Russian hacking into the American election and the DNC emails and all that stuff,
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was really just a very personal, I hate Hillary kind of reaction.
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So that, that now makes a lot more sense with that context of him just throwing a tantrum and ruining relations with the rest of the world for a while.
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Some of that is too easy I think a little bit and I think that like fits into a, I would say an incompletely drawn psychological profile that we may want to work off of.
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I think that when you, when you look at more of the details about it, and I don't want to read you guys a 60 page report or anything like that.
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Yeah, I don't want you to do that either.
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Both sides had fault in this, but the shutting off of the gas was 100% Russia.
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Yeah.
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They did it in response to failed negotiations between Ukraine and Russia and some things that Russia said Ukraine was doing that do not appear to be true.
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Yeah.
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They were saying that they were stealing gas that was coming through the pipelines, but it appears that most of the stuff that-
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Did they get a little hose and they siphoned it? The guy was breathing in real hard and put it in a gas can?
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I mean, a lot of it is really impossible to prove either way.
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Right.
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But the Ukraine's argument is that the gas that they're talking about is what's called like operational gas, which they were using to power the pipelines and create the ability to use the transit flows.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And stuff like that. So it's like it's the cost of doing business, essentially.
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Yeah. In order to move this gas, we have to use this gas.
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Some of the gas is used in the transit.
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Yeah.
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And so it's incredibly complicated. And I think from everything I can tell, if you look at the reality of it, both sides are 100% at fault for not resolving this when the stakes were so high for people in other countries.
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Yeah.
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But also, Russia made the decision to shut off the gas, which Alex is putting the other direction on. He's saying that Ukraine shut it off.
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Yeah.
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And that is not the case. No one would make that argument. Even on the 8th of January 2009, no one would make that argument.
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Except who?
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But see, see, I hate this. I hate this because obviously we know what the fucking answer is.
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Yeah, of course.
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Obviously. But it still could just be someone who's hyper sympathetic to the Russian narrative, Russia's worldview, has a boner for Putin to some extent.
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And what it means to me is that clip where he talked about going on RT and the Russian intelligence agents debriefing him, I think it had to have happened before 2009.
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Seems like it.
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Because this narrative would never come out of his mouth if he wasn't super sympathetic to Russia.
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No, absolutely not.
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It's fascinating to me, just on a pure like.
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Where would you get this shit kind of level?
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But like, there's no way to read.
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Well, yeah, exactly.
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The only the only way to get that narrative is through approved state sponsored Russian sources.
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Some of his buddies who hang out with.
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Well, yeah.
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What are we talking about?
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His buddies, Paul Craig Roberts.
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He's at the bar in Austin and they're like, hey, you know, this Ukraine character, they're going all buck wild on this.
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Possibly.
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This is clearly a Russian narrative.
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Where does he get it unless he is either absorbing and watching Russian television constantly.
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Right.
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Which is a suspicious thought in and of itself.
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It's possible.
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Or if he's got a direct relationship with people whose interests are aligned in that.
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I still don't think we have any kind of firm evidence that there is a direct relationship past the exploitation of flattery.
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That they have clearly.
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Right.
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If Alex's story about that RT debriefing is true, which I'm inclined to believe it is true.
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As we as we go further along, I'm leaning more and more towards that's that's a real narrative.
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I mostly believe it's true because he's not that creative.
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No.
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A lot of his brags are just we have millions of listeners.
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Yeah.
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The idea of concocting a setup that he fell for, I don't think would occur to him.
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So I don't know, man.
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Yeah, that's next level lying.
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It's very tough.
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And I mean, this is the reason going back to this specific start point and to see immediately that like that narrative in the face of the reality is is troubling.
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And what's more troubling is to see a completely different man than we know in the present still loving Russia.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Like, yeah, the guy who is mad that the cops killed a black guy who's innocent and didn't deserve to die and all this and he's mad about it and the cops should go to jail.
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And he's still saying like, hey, Ukraine's fucking up here.
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Yeah.
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Why are they fucking with Russia?
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Russia can't do wrong.
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It means it means like, you know what I'm having?
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I'm having the exact same revelation that we did when we did the 2015 thing.
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Like when we went back and Alex was like, some say Putin will save the world, like before he became on.
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Yeah.
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When I was surprised by that, it's the same thing.
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I'm super surprised.
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Yeah, I'm super surprised to hear that something I'm not as surprised about.
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Is he perhaps a Russian sleeper agent?
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Are you sure?
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When did his dad move to this country?
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I don't know.
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There's a lot of David Joneses.
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It's really tough to figure out.
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See, there you go.
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One of them is David Bowie.
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When did he move to this country?
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Don't know that either.
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I don't think he did.
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So you won't be surprised to learn that Alex at this point is still like really wanting money.
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Well, yeah.
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But the flavor is so different.
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He hasn't started his pill companies yet.
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So he's kind of, you know, he's selling DVDs, he's selling books, and he has some sponsors.
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You know, like we've seen some of these weirdos, misshapen jeans.
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We've seen those.
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But on this episode, on January 8th, he's got a fucking real interesting way he's trying to make money.
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Another issue, and then we're going to Steve Quayle, is this.
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We moved to the new office completely about two and a half weeks ago.
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And I had this bullhorn that I use in the movie, A Scanner Darkly.
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I guess I've had it five, six years since the last one got broke, got broken.
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And it's the favorite model, this big Radio Shack model that I found is the loudest for the size.
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And it's been in just countless demonstrations.
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The last one was in Denver.
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We were bullhorning MSNBC for covering up the 9-11s and inside job outside.
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And they came over, grabbed it, tried to rip it away.
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Then a guy comes up with a knife and cuts it.
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It's on video.
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And so if somebody wants to buy the bullhorn, we have an eBay auction going,
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they can fix that or they can keep it as a classic piece of Liberty memorabilia.
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And the Disinfo Trolls went into the article on Infowars.com that Kurt Nemo posted,
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Alex Jones, Tyranny Crusher won bullhorn auction at eBay.
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I WON'T HAVE A BULLHORN!
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And they yelled and screamed and said,
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How dare you be selling this? How dare you be profiting?
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How dare you be doing this when we've stated that we're selling the bullhorn
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to raise money to expand the studio.
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We've built the new radio studio. You've seen it. It looks great.
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If you're a PrisonPlanet.tv viewer, we're building the new studio.
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But in this economy, we don't have the funds to do this.
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So even now, you should be getting the sense that he's a man who's living...
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He took a bath in the housing crisis. I'll tell you that right now.
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It's impossible, but the way he's asking for money, working around money,
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that's how a human does it.
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I want that bullhorn so bad.
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Freedom Crusher, not Tyranny Crusher won?
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He's having a garage sale. I want that bullhorn so bad.
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You're not going to like how much the bidding gets up to.
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I bet it's gone down a lot since then.
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Spoiler alert, we're going to hear a lot about this bullhorn for the rest of the episode.
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So his old bullhorn, for which he clearly had a sentimental attachment, was damaged.
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So then he researches bullhorns, finds the loudest model within the best size for him,
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buys that bullhorn, then it gets damaged and he decides,
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no, I am going to turn this bullhorn into my company's future.
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Exactly. And it seems to work, because I don't want to ruin things,
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but the bidding war is not to be believed.
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If we can track that bullhorn down, I will steal it.
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Would you believe this?
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I will steal it like a pack of Marlboro Reds on a convertible.
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The bidding for this bullhorn gets so intense that the government gets involved.
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What? What are you talking about?
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But that's a spoiler.
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What is he fucking talking about?
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But that's a spoiler for later.
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Who is mad at him for, you can't sell that bullhorn.
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What are you talking about?
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What are you doing selling that bullhorn?
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What is he talking about?
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This is the heyday of eBay. That rhymes.
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We're going to learn a lot more about this bullhorn, but in the meantime,
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right now we have to take a quick break.
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We'll be back in about two minutes.
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All right.
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All right, we're back.
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Hey!
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So this bullhorn is going to be...
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Right back into bullhorn talk.
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It's going to be a huge player in the show.
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I don't understand how that's possible.
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But I want to talk to you about the guests a little bit that they have on.
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Look at my notes out here.
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The inventor of the bullhorn, of course.
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I don't have any clips of them, really,
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because the interviews are inconsequential.
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And a lot of it does come back to just like...
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When you listen to 2009 Alex Jones, so much of it is Endgame stuff.
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It becomes very clear to me that Endgame was specifically a best of documentary that he made.
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And it was just kind of like, he talks about these same things all the fucking time.
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So just go and watch our Endgame stuff, you'll get most of it.
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Yeah, so when we did the Endgame documentary, what we wound up doing is ruining the Greatest Hits album.
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That's what's going on.
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You can't go back and listen to any of the Eagles' regular albums.
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Because you shouldn't, and you shouldn't listen to their Greatest Hits album either.
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But if you're going to, you wind up listening to that one.
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That's why this investigation is going to be even greater,
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because we're going to find those deep album cuts, like him being mad at the cops for killing an unarmed man,
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that most people don't get to know.
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So we're going to listen to the songs Fleetwood Mac wrote that weren't written by anybody who was any good.
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Sure.
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He has Steve Quayle on, who we know has written multiple books about how giants used to walk the earth,
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among other very crackpotty topics.
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He is a...
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Ironic for a man named after a very small bird.
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He's a straight up lunatic.
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He is on and he talks about how it's all just like the end is here kind of stuff.
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It is.
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We're in a martial law state already.
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He has a good quote.
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The Patriot Act was already signed.
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The globalists sacrifice live children.
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If they'll take your guns, they'll take your life.
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That sort of shit is strong.
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He also wanted to inform everyone that Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek,
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was the successor of Aleister Crowley and was the head of the OTO, the Ordo Temple...
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Man, I didn't want to get back to bullhorn talk.
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This is crazy.
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Yeah.
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He has Paul Craig Roberts on.
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Hey!
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The founder of Reaganomics, as Alex would call him.
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Right.
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Also a gentleman who we've discussed, written for Sputnik for years and years.
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Also, if you are the founder of Reaganomics, you are an insane person.
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They mostly just talk about economic collapse.
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Well, they were right on time.
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A little late.
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They talk about how it's going to get worse.
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Then he has an hour and a half...
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Unless there is some sort of massive stimulus package that's passed through Congress that will...
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They'll probably be against that.
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Oh, okay.
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Then he has an hour and a half interview with David Icke.
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All right.
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The interview with David Icke is not good.
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It's just boring.
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As much as I want to play clips of David Icke for you...
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Saying nonsense.
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I would love to, but...
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Right.
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It's just nothing.
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He should have been using a bullhorn.
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It's absolutely nothing.
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It's just the two of them sort of...
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I'm starting to understand why he wants to talk about this bullhorn a lot,
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because I'm liking saying the word bullhorn.
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Yeah.
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You get a lot of ole in there.
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The only thing that David Icke said that I thought was like,
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I mean, he doesn't talk lizards when he's on Alex's show.
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He keeps that sort of talk close to the vest.
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Of course.
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I would say that people like Barack Obama are white people in black bodies,
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and that made me a bit uncomfortable.
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All right.
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I don't know what that means.
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I don't either, but he says he was quoting somebody else,
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but I couldn't...
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I don't know who.
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I couldn't make out who he was saying, and so I just...
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I don't have the clip of it.
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I would have researched who he was quoting, but it just...
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It's a bad interview.
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It was actually Dennis Hastert.
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So anyway...
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Yo, boy.
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Belding?
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So he gets done with David Icke, and then he gets back to the bullhorn.
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What?
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What is the surprise today?
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Well, it's not Alex Jones' Tyranny Crusher 1.
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This was the first time we ever did an eBay item,
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and the reason we did it is because people are like,
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well, this megaphone's broken.
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We bought a new one.
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You've had this one for all these years.
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It's in the movie A Scanner Darkly that they rotoscoped.
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That's really me and the bullhorn in there.
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Yep.
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We're going to play a clip of that in a moment.
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Nope.
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He's going to play a clip just to prove that he was in the...
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We know you're in the movie, Alex.
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That's not...
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Who cares?
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I don't know.
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I like it.
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Movie memorabilia.
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Sell it to the Hard Rock Cafe.
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This isn't the surprise.
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Surprise will come up in a minute.
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Tyranny Crusher 1, you know, should we get it fixed?
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Like a $125 megaphone, or should we sell it?
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And obviously, it's a fundraiser.
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We're not saying the megaphone, just as a megaphone,
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is worth $3,500.
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I think it's the latest bid on there for it.
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Jesus.
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We opened it up at $1,500.
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There is Tyranny Crusher 1 on the prisonplanet.tv screen.
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So there's two important things going on here.
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He's calling the bullhorn Tyranny Crusher 1.
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He said that already.
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You didn't catch that?
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It's a great name.
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I caught it, but I'm still struggling to wrap my head around that fact.
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You're trying to rapture your head around it?
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Oh, there we go.
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It's a pretty good name for a bullhorn,
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and it's great that he has to keep talking about it.
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I like living in a world where you can just say,
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it's a pretty good name for a bullhorn,
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and everybody's like, yeah, and then we move on.
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That's an insane thing to say, right?
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Are you not concerned about what the surprise is?
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No.
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I think the surprise is that this bullhorn is going to sell for a lot of money.
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When I was going back through my notes,
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here's the note that I have from this time stamp.
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Alex has a big surprise.
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Also, still trying to sell that bullhorn.
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Also, still trying to sell that bullhorn.
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So I was going back through, and I'm like, he didn't have a surprise,
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because I couldn't remember what the surprise was.
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And then I remembered, oh, that's the surprise.
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Charlie Sheen gave him a jacket.
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That's his big surprise.
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Oh, was it a nice jacket?
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Was it a Letterman jacket?
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It's the jacket that he wore in Red Dawn.
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Really?
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Yeah, allegedly.
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I would like that jacket.
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Allegedly.
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It may or may not be true.
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There's no way that's true.
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It could be.
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Which jacket?
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Also, Wolverines.
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Alex yells that a bunch.
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Which, again, people did not understand the point of that movie at all.
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Alex might not either.
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It was an allegory.
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But Alex is super excited to tell everyone that he has Charlie Sheen's jacket from Red Dawn.
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In the context of I'm selling this bullhorn, I will not sell you this jacket.
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He's like, what?
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Oh, right.
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That's what kind of a guy Charlie Sheen is.
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He's such a good man, he'll give you this jacket.
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That's what he does for his friends.
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All right.
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And so that ends up leading...
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This bullhorn is tyranny crusher one.
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This jacket is heroic death one?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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So that leads him to play some clips from Red Dawn.
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Now I'm in.
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I love this show.
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He starts talking.
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Every time a listener is like, you know, I used to listen to Alex a long time ago because
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I thought he was funny.
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I'm like, because I never did.
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And I'm always like, this guy is a fucking insane racist monster.
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And now listening back to the 2009, I get it, man.
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This is pretty funny.
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He's playing clips of Red Dawn.
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But keep in mind that this is like a four hour show and I'm playing you 20 minutes of
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it.
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That's all I needed to listen to.
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There's the repetitive commercials.
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I'm not going to actually go back and listen to the show, but come on, a guy who's selling
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a bullhorn named and not selling a jacket, bragging about it.
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That is just great radio.
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So he starts playing some clips from Red Dawn and then he makes an announcement over them.
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Oh, he tackles him in the jacket.
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Tackle the rooster.
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He's so happy.
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By the way, I'm on Russia today during election day for a full hour.
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Smooth.
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Smooth like silk.
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Ooh, he tackles him in the jacket.
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By the way, I'm on Russia today for a full hour.
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During election coverage.
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God, that's so great.
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That's pretty amazing.
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That makes me so happy.
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Yeah.
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He's so happy.
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Look at how happy he is.
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He's pretty giddy.
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He is loving watching Red Dawn on the radio.
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This is a man who is getting paid to play clips from Red Dawn.
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That is a happy man.
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I think if anything, Alex Jones, and I mean, we'll see what else we end up learning through
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this, like a trip through 2009, but I think he should live on in everyone's memory, not
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as a racist propagandist because he is that.
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Yeah.
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But I think more importantly to all of our hearts, he should serve as a cautionary tale
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like Icarus.
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Don't take super male vitality.
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Well, there's that.
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Yeah.
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He's like Icarus, he flew too close to the sun.
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You know, like he, whatever it is, it's probably a lust for money or whatever.
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He got money and he wanted more.
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He wanted more.
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Wanted more of the luxury and stuff.
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He got flattered and he wanted more.
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He wanted his dad to love him.
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When the happiest he could possibly ever be is right around here.
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He's making enough money to live.
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He has a fan base.
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He's getting to do whatever the fuck he wants.
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Consequence free.
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Just say a bunch of shit.
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No one's going to sue him.
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He owns his own home.
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Yeah.
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Like he's doing it, but he wants a bigger one.
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I don't understand that.
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I don't think that's it.
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Like, like for us, uh, getting to the point where it's just like we have enough donations
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so you can pay your rent is the happiest we're ever going to be.
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Everything from here is going to be garbage.
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We could get happier, but like, uh, the idea of like being rich doesn't charm me.
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No, it sucks clearly.
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Like this is, this is great for us.
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If we ever do become successful immediately, we're both going to be like, no, you can't
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turn into that guy.
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You got, you guys can have tyranny crusher one through five.
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We don't need it.
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This might not be the best time to tell you this.
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What?
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I'm selling a broken megaphone.
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No!
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What's the name?
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Uh, it doesn't have a name.
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I don't think it's fun to name megaphones, just bull horns.
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Wait, what's the difference between a bull horn and a megaphone?
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A megaphone is just that tube that you put your mouth at the base of and it amplifies
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your voice.
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Like a vuvuzela?
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Is that what you're talking about?
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No, you don't blow into it.
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It's just like a, like a cone basically that you yell at him.
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Whereas the megaphone has electric parts.
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The bull horn you mean?
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Yes.
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Turns out I don't know the difference.
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Anyway, you know what I do know?
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Alex Jones is a fucking insane gold salesman in 2009.
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Okay.
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Um, the level-
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You can wear him as pants!
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The level to which he is incorporating Midas resources without disclosing their relationship-
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Do you mean that they own him entirely?
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Yeah.
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It's crazy.
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Okay.
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Like, he ends almost every show with Ted Anderson coming in and telling him about what bull
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horn he's bought.
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Ugh.
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Hey, I got a couple of francs that need to go.
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I got some buffalo coins and shit like that.
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Man, that is like the host of a major TV show on Fox News bringing in a lawyer that he has-
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Never mind.
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Yeah.
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No, no-
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It's just crazy unethical.
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No correlation at all.
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No, not at all.
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So, at this point, and I want to stress, like he had done a half hour interview with Paul
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Craig Roberts just about like the economy collapsing and stuff like that.
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Right.
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And so now, towards the end of the show, at about the, you know, we're a good three and
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a half hours into the show now, he brings in Ted.
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In closing, again, we're trying to fund this operation.
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The reason we're able to expand or maintain, I'm kind of wondering if we can expand or
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just maintain with the economy the way it is, we need more funds.
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And I hope you will get the books and videos and materials and also support our sponsors.
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And one of them is the place I buy precious metals.
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Real quick, he says that they're a sponsor, but that's not really accurate.
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That is not, I've looked-
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They're an ownership group.
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I've looked a little bit into the FTC's guidelines in terms of like how you're supposed to represent
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sponsorships and stuff like that.
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And spiritually, I think this is a crime.
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Okay.
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I legitimately, I can't say for sure, and it's going to take a little more research
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on my part, but the fact that he's being syndicated by the guy's company and not disclosing that,
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that is an unfair representation of their relationship.
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Eh, Sinclair Media.
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Who cares?
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And Ted has still got gold at 60, 70, some of the pieces, $80 under the price it's selling
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for.
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Gold is up right now, right at $15 today from yesterday.
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And you heard Dr. Paul Craig Roberts say, we will have a depression worse.
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He never talked like that, the father of ergonomics.
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So I wanted to bring Ted on.
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Ted Anderson here-
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Do you mean the guy who causes the depression?
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Uh, Ted, you've got the super deal for people.
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Tell folks about it.
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I did.
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I was able to even back down a little bit on the British sovereigns and francs right
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now.
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I've got the French franc at 204 and the British sovereign at 252.
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Um-
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So, so, so where is that price in the market?
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Like 7, 760?
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Yeah, comparatively speaking, I did a little check on it and I was looking to see where
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I-
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That's really boring stuff.
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But the, the point that I wanted to keep in the end there was that Alex is like talking
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price points.
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He's very aware of-
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Oh yeah.
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The business.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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He's very involved.
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Wait, so you're, you're telling me that you're selling gold at-
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At 760?
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35% of what it is that it would be on the market?
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How can you get away with these prices, Dan?
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Yeah.
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They're in, they're in-
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Oh, that's crazy.
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They're-
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We're going to have to put a clock on this.
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We're going to have to put a clock because we're going to sell out of gold.
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We're going to sell out of French francs.
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I don't know if those are gold, but that's fine.
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We're going to, you got an hour.
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Call in now.
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Right.
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We're going to sell out.
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This is not like, this is not acceptable.
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Also, we have a suite of samurai swords, which are made out of Frank, Francophiles.
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Not even French francs, but people who like France.
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This isn't close to acceptable broadcast behavior.
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It's, um, whenever you, like if Alex is like slightly unaware of the business and just
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letting Ted talk, uh, having a Ted talk, that would be slightly different, but he's doing
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it like a, like, I mean, it's not funny, but it's like a vaudeville routine.
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The two of them are going back and forth.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's very weird.
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So that's the end of the eighth and now we jump into the ninth and Jordan, if you have
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been confused up till now-
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How is this going to get more confused?
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This is going to get so much worse.
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How much did the bullhorn cost?
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We're going to get to it.
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It still hasn't finished?
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Bullhorn still in play.
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Bullhorn still in play.
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All right.
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All right.
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But at the beginning of this show, Alex Jones talks about a president who's, uh, Donald
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Trump is a big fan of, and Alex is a big fan of in present day.
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So you're talking about Andrew Jackson.
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Uh, Hitler gave speeches about it, wrote about it.
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Hitler was president?
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He got his policies for death camps and rounding up populations, non-Aryan groups in Russia
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and all over Europe from the American Indian program here in the United States.
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And of course that adopted a lot from those that invented it, the British, the concentration
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camp.
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It was Andrew Jackson who turned around and did some of the same stuff to native Americans.
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Hmm.
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It's not a laughing.
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No, the giggle's not great.
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But, but the awareness there is that, uh, Andrew Jackson is in league with Hitler.
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That's weird.
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I don't, that's very weird.
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So the problem here is that this suggests that he actually does know something about
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history at this point in time.
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Like he, like for all the, for all the times we talk about how he's read all of these sources
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and he just willfully lies about that.
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He probably heard war after 2009.
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That's possible.
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Yeah.
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But, but that's, that's the thing.
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Like on the stupid slash evil continuum that we often disagree upon, wherein we're talking
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about, you know, is his reading comprehension so low?
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Is that the real issue?
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And that's why he misunderstands all of these things.
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Now if you get, if you can read the history of Andrew Jackson and get that he is a fucking
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monster and then report that like a reasonable human being, that suggests that later on you
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are willfully lying about Andrew Jackson and all of this shit.
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You are willfully lying about all of these primary sources that you say you understand
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because you can, it is you, it is within your capability to recognize that America is genociders.
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I disagree.
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I don't think it's that cut and dry because that's such a simple conclusion to come to.
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You know, like you could read a children's coloring book and find out that Andrew Jackson
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was a genocider.
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You know, like, you know, we should publish a series of knowledge, fight coloring books
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that talk about real American history.
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Oh dude, that'd be brutal.
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Very unmarketable.
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Uh, but you know, like that, that to me doesn't, that doesn't indicate too much in terms of
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what's the, what's that children's book?
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Go the Fuck to Sleep.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think, I think America's version would be Go the Fuck to Hell, something along those
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lines.
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Go the Fuck to Democracy!
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Yay!
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Exclamation point.
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So Jordan, you're asking questions about that bullhorn and I am thrilled to tell you that
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I have answers.
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Always asking questions about that bullhorn.
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By the way, the Alex Jones tyranny crusher won a bullhorn auctioned on eBay only a couple
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days into a seven day bid is over $50,000 right now.
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Wow.
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Now somebody put in one for $5 million and then bragged that it was fake.
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We just Googled their handle and found out that it was part of a government group.
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What?
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Government affiliated group laughing openly saying they wanted to screw it up, but we
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just canceled their bid and it's a legitimate cancellation because we have their own handle,
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their own admission, where they're admitting that they are, and even posting their bidding
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details on the web, posting the evidence of their felony.
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We went and looked it up.
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Memory told me it was a felony of $10,000 federal in Texas, it's above $6,000 for a
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state felony.
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I don't know what state this individual's in.
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States can't have felonies, right?
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You can always subpoena those, but it looks like we'll be able to handle those problems.
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We've talked to eBay now and they did say that if these people did succeed, that there
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would be criminal charges.
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And they put a bid in on the bullhorn.
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They're not going to be successful in their criminal activities.
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They're admitted criminal activities, but they're doing important work, of course, for
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CENTCOM.
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So, uh, it's, it's okay.
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What is CENTCOM?
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Central command.
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Oh, uh, he believes that it's less fun than I was hoping.
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He believes that a government agency, he was trying to fuck with him by putting in a troll
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bid for $5 million for his broken board.
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I, that's why I prefer a government that does that, Dan.
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I prefer a government that is willing to troll Alex Jones in that fashion.
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I understand that like COINTELPRO is a thing like infiltration exists and that sort of
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stuff.
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I get that.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I am.
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That is not lost on me.
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No.
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Yeah.
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But Hoover never, uh, never was like, Hey, I'll buy your, uh, your notes on the, I have
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a dream speech for $5 million.
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Also, this is like, you know, 2009 is where you're getting like beginnings of people figuring
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out like really good ways to fuck with people on the internet.
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Uh, and maybe Alex Jones, it was a happier time and maybe Alex's world kind of like,
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uh, coalesced a lot of those people for and against him, you know, and someone was just
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fucking with him on eBay.
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I think that's the absolute most likely.
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Oh yeah, of course.
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It was not a government agency.
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It was a, it was a 14 year old.
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That does not stop Alex from spiraling into a vicious rant about these people on the internet
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who are fucking with.
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Uh, yeah.
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And if you didn't know that, uh, you, you've got some CENTCOM and FBI guys in there with
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you.
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I know some of you were just fellow traveler, lobotomy type folks, your mothers didn't breastfeed
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you.
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Your brain's tiny and got rot holes in it.
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Oh, you didn't know that.
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Of course, you'll just laugh.
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You'll go, well, my mom didn't breastfeed me.
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That's true, but you won't Google and read the BBC Associated Press about your brain
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being 15 to 30% smaller depending on the study for breastfed.
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You'll just laugh and say, that's not true, but I guarantee you mama puts you in a crib
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in dirty diapers and didn't take care of you.
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And that's your problem.
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And I'm sorry they savaged your mind so that you couldn't connect your intellect with your
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soul.
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Wow.
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That's weird.
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And this is that like teleportation without a soul, something like that, a little bit
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along those lines.
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This is another point that I need to bring up that I have discovered from watching these,
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this 2009 shit.
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Alex has been against Satan the whole time.
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Like there was a part of me that like, I used to listen to his show, you know, like when
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I was younger and I'd be like, oh, these conspiracies are wild and like kind of fun and everything.
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But like, I didn't, I didn't understand.
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Like did you put in that bit?
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What?
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Dan, did you put in that bit?
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No, no.
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Dan.
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I did not work for CENTCOM, but I didn't understand that he was fucking against Satan
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from the jump.
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Like I didn't realize that this is a decade long battle against Satan.
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Of course he's against Satan.
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He doesn't talk about it much, but Satan is ostensibly a bad character.
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Right.
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But I thought that that was a newer wrinkle in his world.
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Like his cosmology, the, oh, there's devil, there's the literal Christian devil behind
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all of this.
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It's it's there.
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See I, I assumed immediately the moment you bring up the devil, you've always been bringing
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up the devil.
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At the end of it.
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There's no, there's nobody who just suddenly starts bringing up the devil.
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That's not true.
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You've always been against the devil.
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There's people who are born again at like 40 or something like that who get, uh, you
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know, they change.
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Yeah.
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But he, he clearly wasn't born again.
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This is shit that he's grown up with.
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It's probably, I bet in early, I bet he has a grandma who talked about the devil nonstop,
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but I bet in early two thousands, he wasn't like overtly talking about Satan's behind
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all these people I don't like.
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He has an hour interview at the end of the show with a guy named Alan Watt.
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Not Alan Watts, Alan Watts is the other guy, Alan Watt is the guy who Alex talks to.
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Not the guy who's interested in Taoist philosophy.
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Not the inspirational speaker that you find, uh, videos of giving flowing, uh, speeches
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about human potential right on YouTube.
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No, Alan Watt is a guy who believes in the Illuminati.
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Gotcha.
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And he's very similar.
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He's probably behind a lot of Alex's, uh, uh, end game, uh, beliefs, honestly, cause
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every time he comes on the show, it's just, it's just the plot of end game.
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Okay.
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And on this appearance here on the ninth, uh, January 9th, 2009, he is literally talking
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about the Christian devil, uh, being behind all of the problems.
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Lucifer.
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Yes.
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The fallen, the fallen star.
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Yes.
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And so like, it's just, it just, it, that blew my mind.
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And so when he's talking about your intellect, not being connected to your soul, there's
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so much there.
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It's surprising to me that all it takes to collect, to connect to the intellect of the
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soul is breastfeeding.
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Breast milk, baby.
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That seems, that seems, uh, suspicious.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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I would like to see a peer reviewed study on that.
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Well, it depends on based on the study.
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That's a good point.
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Depends.
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You got 50, 15 to 30% more soul if you've been breastfed.
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Yeah.
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The soul quotient depends on study.
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So he's not done complaining about these people launched into this tirade by the troll bid
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on his right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And so now he talks, that's because of fluoride.
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No, it's about not breastfeeding, not breastfed.
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And then he gets into some groups of people he hates.
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They pumped you full of yourself and told you you were the elite and got you all arrogant,
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slack jawed and smiley face, you know, the spirit I'm talking about.
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The attitude, the cowardly attitude of these little, uh, Metro sexual, uh, men out there
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today and all of these, uh, well, at least we know he's still home psycho worldly women.
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Oh, those women who I've had more abortions than they've, uh, than they've paid for, bought
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cars in their lives.
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You know, they get an abortion every two years and a new car every two years.
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Who gets a new car about that baby?
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Well, the elite doesn't care about you either, honey.
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That baby wasn't a human being.
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Well, you're not either.
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So all right.
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So a lot of that goodwill we were back into comfortable territory, homophobic, misogynistic,
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hypocritical.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Oh, these women with their abortions, I've only paid for like 15 of them.
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Yeah.
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How many cars have you bought?
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Something like that every two years.
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Every two years I pay for another abortion.
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Yeah.
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It's nuts, man.
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What is, that is right.
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And we're a boat that we're now we're, now we're right in there.
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Now the storm has passed, Dan.
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Also remember when people used to complain about Metro sexual?
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I know that was more, that was a fun time.
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That was a fun time.
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Oh, these men are acting like they're not from the fifties.
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Oh, with their, with their, their jeans, Dan, their jeans fit.
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You should get random jeans.
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Spell jeans.
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Absolutely.
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All right.
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I got it.
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Jordan.
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I got it.
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Jordan.
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All right, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Spell jeans.
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Come on.
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You're going to, you're going to get a negative one point for that.
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Jordan.
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I don't know how to do this.
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Do you?
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Okay.
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I don't know what to do.
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All right.
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Alex Jones is first guest.
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No.
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On the ninth.
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I'm out.
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There's a guy by the name of Russell Means, does that name mean anything to you?
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Spell Means.
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He's from Indiana.
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He is a native American activist who's been doing sit-ins and occupations of like Alcatraz,
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other locations since the late sixties.
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Okay.
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So far I'm on board.
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He is a gentleman who believes in like Lakota rights and original peoples.
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Still good.
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He and I are getting along so far.
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But here's the thing.
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He's on Alex's shelf.
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It's not a great sign.
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No, but it's weird.
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It's not a great sign.
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It's a fact to him being mad at the cops.
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But it's like when the reasonable scientist was on a show.
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Do you remember that one?
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Dean Adel?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dean Adel.
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Man, never going to not think he's Dean Adel.
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But at least Dean Adel was like- Dean Adel?
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Dean Adel was at least, he is a broadcaster and shit.
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Right.
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Right.
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And he was utterly bewildered by Alex.
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I have good news and bad news about Russell Means.
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Okay.
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I support his-
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What do you mean?
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What?
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Huh?
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What do you mean?
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I mean that he has a lot of good ideas and I support them in terms of Native American
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issues.
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Okay.
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Uh, uh, first people's issues.
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You are really trying to cover your bases here.
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No, but throughout the interview he gets into like, it's the Rothschilds and something like,
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oh no.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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Okay.
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But at the same time in 2009, Alex was willing to have someone who has made their entire
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life about trying to get rights for a minority group, which is again, crazy.
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I mean, what do you view somebody like if we have a massive speaker, like somebody who
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is tirelessly, tirelessly campaigning for equal pay for women and they just will not
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fucking give it up and they do so much good in their life.
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But then at a certain point you find out it's like, and the reason that I've been campaigning
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for women is because everyone who doesn't, uh, campaign for women is controlled by the
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devil.
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And you're like, Ooh, I, I support what you're doing and I'm just going to look over.
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I'm going to look over this one part where you think it's the devil because at the end
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of the day it could be the devil.
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It could be Paul Ryan.
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It doesn't matter.
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They're all evil.
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You're looking at the wrong thing.
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Okay.
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I'm not concerned about where Russell's motivation comes from.
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Okay.
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Or whatever dumb ideas he's become beholden to late in life because I don't think he was
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on that tip in the mid late sixties when he was an activist and throughout his life he
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was an activist.
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I'm not going to take that away from him.
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I don't, I will say that I did not have time to do a massive deep dive into Russell Means
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life, but from what I could gather, uh, a lot of it, what Russell Means life sounds
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like a great name for his website was Russell Means freedom.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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That's clever.
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But like, I don't, I don't, I don't judge the Rothschild narrative becoming a piece
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of his thing.
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I'm not, I don't give a shit about that.
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Yeah.
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I'm concerned with the idea that in 2009 Alex Jones had a, uh, native American activist
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on the show and he was like, yup, absolutely.
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He was like, he was on board.
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He wasn't talking about how it's a plan to separate us and balkanize us divide and conquer
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these narrative Americans who want rights.
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It's all the globalist just trying to make white people feel guilty.
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It wasn't anything like that.
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He was talking to him from a position of like, I agree with you and that's nuts.
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That is nuts.
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Now that his next clip is even more nuts.
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Okay.
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I want to shift gears in the time we have left with him on the parallels between what's
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happening with the Gazans because they're dead and dying right now.
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Gaza children found with mother's corpses.
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The New York Times, the international committee of the red cross said Thursday it had discovered
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shocking scenes, including small children next to their mother, mother's corpses.
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Well, at least with wounded knee, they kill all the kids too.
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Um, when his representatives gained access for the first time to parts of Gaza, battered
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by Israeli shelling, it accused Israel of failing to meet obligations to care for the
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wounded in the combat areas.
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So that part where he's talking about, at least they killed the children.
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That's dark bananas.
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That's dark humor.
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No, no, no.
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That, that one I'm just going to pass over.
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And you should.
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That's just him.
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That's just going to pass.
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I think you should.
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I got you.
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Yeah.
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I got you now.
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Come on.
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Come on a second.
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Come on.
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I was getting defensive.
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All right.
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That's that's nuts.
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That's nuts.
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That's nuts.
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And I think who is this man?
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Who is this man?
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There's so many other.
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There's a couple other instances that were too garbled and uh, like way out of context
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we'd have to listen to much longer clips in order to get the, the sound bite to make sense.
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But there are a number of other points where he's like fucking critical of Israel.
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And the thing I want to take away from this clip is a very strong message to all of the
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people out there who claim that Alex Jones refuses to talk about Israel.
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Go fuck yourself.
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He does.
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He at least in 2009, I don't know how, how this changes over time or whatever, but like
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him saying they're killing the Gaza people, the people in Gaza, like that, that's as far
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as you need to go for at least a first step.
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You know, that is, that's something that if he was as his critics, his anti-Semitic critics
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alleged that he works for Mossad, he would never fucking say something like that.
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And more bananas, most, if not all people, no matter how liberal that they were or professed
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to be at that time, we're still avoiding the talk of Israel's war crimes as much as humanly
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possible.
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Sure.
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Like it doesn't matter who you were back then.
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There's a 98% chance that you were like, Ooh, I'm not talking about Israel.
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The fact that Alex is at that, Oh man, this is so weird.
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The fact that Alex Jones is literally coming out and saying that Israel is committing war
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crimes at a time period where Obama would not even talk about that shit.
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If you brought up Israel, Obama at that time would have been like, you know, and then moved
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on as fast as possible.
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Like this is bananas.
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And what's even more fucked up is like I said, there are, there are more clips of him on
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that tip, uh, bananas around this time.
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I don't know how to deal with this.
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I don't either.
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I don't either.
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And I think it almost feels like we need to do a spinoff show about Alex in 2009 that
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is not related to the knowledge fight show because this is a completely different person.
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No, that's what the show is from now on.
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I don't care about the present.
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Like it's just, like we said on the last episode, it's all distractions.
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It's all this obfuscating and dumb, like I would much rather figure out where does the
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breaking point come because it, it's, it has to, it was, it wasn't Trump because now we
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proved that when we went back to 2015 he was a fucking monster.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Trump.
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He was, he was saying that, uh, the day after the Charleston shooting, he said, well, this
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guy really wanted to be racist.
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He should have been an abortion doctor.
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Like shit like that guy was already there in 2015 so it had to have been something before
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that where it just, everything went wrong because as much as much as like this guy that
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we're listening to in 2009 does suck.
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He sucks.
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No, no, no.
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For sure.
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Cause you're seeing him shit on women who've had abortions when he secretly had 10 at this
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point and doesn't admit to it.
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So many.
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He's garbage.
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He's yelling about how like, oh, if you, you're a critic of mine, you just weren't breastfed.
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Right.
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So he's, he's a dick and he's clearly a manipulative, uh, gold salesman slash broken bullhorn salesman.
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Of course.
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But the, the narrative, which is a tough job to get, it is really hard to become a broken
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bullhorn salesman.
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It's like a hard double major.
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Super hard to get.
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The two, but the narratives that we're seeing, you know, like the, with, um, the cop shooting
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of Oscar grant with, uh, him talking about Israel bombing, uh, people in Gaza and it's
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murder.
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Yeah.
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Those sorts of things are things you could talk about, you know, like nowadays, nothing
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he talks about, you can talk about nothing.
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No, it's, it's a conversation.
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It's just like, I've talked about in so many times of like, if you, if you are on the right
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and it's not like I hate conservatives or right wing people, uh, so much as it is like,
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they should just be ignored because if you can't have a conversation about what the best
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way to tackle climate change is, if you, if you aren't willing to be like, well, here's,
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here's how we should tackle it versus how you want to tackle it.
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That's a conversation.
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If you just say, nah, it doesn't exist, then fuck off.
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Go away.
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Right.
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It's like in the Jones where you're like, okay, well how do we tackle this police brutality
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issue?
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How do we tackle the unchecked fucking power of these people?
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Which is clearly built with clearly based in a white supremacy that we're, we're just
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not past.
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This is an Alex who you can actually have a conversation with about how to correct these
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issues because he notices what the issues are.
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You can go to, I don't understand.
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Yeah, I don't understand how it is this guy goes from that.
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Is it just, is it really just team sports?
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I don't think so.
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Is that all it really is?
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I don't think so.
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I don't know.
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Like, is it just, is it just, is it just that people have turned?
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From whatever advanced knowledge I have of the other episodes I've listened to in 2009,
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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All right.
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This is going to be wild.
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I'm going to have to recalibrate my entire belief system now, but we got to keep this
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fresh.
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Isn't this more fresh?
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This is super weird.
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Exciting.
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I am scared.
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Yeah.
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In the next clip, Alex Jones says something very insulting about Native Americans to this
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Native American activist.
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I mean, at least the glass bead wampum had some visual value, but was still a scam to
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sell New York.
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Now they just show you an empty box and say, look at how beautiful it is.
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And we sell our whole souls, sell our future.
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So people make fun of the Native Americans, you know, buying the pretty blue and red glass
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beads and nails and knives and hair combs.
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But I mean, we've sold our souls for nothing.
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I would argue that the people who you make fun of or you're pointing the finger at are
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the people who offered the beads.
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I think that's more the lesson of history is look at these shitty white dudes manipulating
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people.
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I don't know if Alex is getting the wrong lesson from very basic history, but it seems
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like he might be thinking that everyone's laughing at the Native Americans for accepting
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that as opposed to, ugh.
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Anyway.
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This is-
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But do you-
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If you followed my feelings throughout this whole thing, it would be the EKG of a man
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having a heart attack.
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Like, I'm going up and down so fucking-
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But you did hear Russell laugh.
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Yeah.
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He got it.
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There's good spirit behind it.
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It's not like he's saying this and he's like, hey, fuck you, man.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a mess.
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So a little later, Alex Jones has a visit from someone we know very well, a dear friend
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of ours.
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That's such a weird thing.
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Just the idea of a man who says wampum.
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Yeah.
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Just that concept.
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And it's not like a heck bit.
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No.
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You hear wampum sometimes in hack jokes.
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No, this is a man who's like, wampum is a totally legitimate thing to say.
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But I think he was using it for effect.
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You know what I'm saying?
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No, I think he uses it like conversationally.
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I don't know.
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I don't have enough context.
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I would argue, and I think, that it's the same thing as him saying, hey, at least it
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wounded me.
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They killed all the children.
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It's that same sort of-
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That's dark comedy.
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But I think it's that same sort of thing.
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I don't think he's saying it in any insulting way.
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I think he's saying it with a wink and a nod.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I wouldn't go that far.
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I'm giving it a lot of leeway because of the other stuff.
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I don't think he's saying it with a wink and a nod.
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I think he's saying it in pure ignorance of like, well, there's nothing wrong with saying
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wampum.
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That's a normal thing that happened in 1940s Looney Tunes cartoons.
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So it's clearly fine.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, we get a visit on the show from a buddy, a buddy of ours, an old friend.
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Jesus.
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No.
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Stevie Larry Nix?
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Still haven't seen him in 2009 yet.
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When does he show up?
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He's got to be creeping around somewhere, though.
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When does he show up?
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He's in play.
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Steve Pachannik is in play at some point soon.
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These guys are part of Alex's world, but we just haven't seen them.
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Yeah, they're coming.
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Paul Craig Roberts, people like Gerald Cilenti are much more regular guests at this point.
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But those dudes have to show up at some point pretty soon.
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You would think.
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And I eagerly await it.
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Right.
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Here's the problem.
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Oh, man.
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With the first Pachannik appearance, that's going to be a banner day for us.
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With this stream that I'm getting all these episodes from.
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I don't know why I'm on this show.
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You're an asshole.
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Nothing is labeled like in terms of the episode, just as the dates and stuff like that.
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So I know nothing going in, listening to these episodes.
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Thankfully, at this point in Alex Jones's broadcast career, he starts every show by
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being like, well, today we're going to be talking to X, Y, and Z.
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He starts.
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And so I can get a sense of what's coming up.
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Classic radio.
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Never does that anymore.
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But that's the secret of 2017.
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With modern episodes, up to about 2013 or so, you can find them on YouTube.
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And I can just see who the guests are and be like, oh, Hamamoto, let's do this thing,
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you know?
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Whereas now I'm like, I'm flying blind.
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This is like...
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To the chat room.
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Rappaport, I think, is not in play.
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Okay.
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I think he came around in like 2013 or so.
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I think.
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I'm not entirely sure.
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But boy, if Rappaport shows up randomly, that'd be exciting as fuck.
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This is turning into such a weird, like...
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It's an origin story.
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This is like his blue period.
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Like this is such a weird artist character arc throughout this whole thing.
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This is bananas.
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You know what it is?
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This is when Alex was into realism.
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This was when Alex was into post-modernism.
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This is when Alex was a pointillist.
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Like this is bananas.
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What's fascinating is I think that we have tapped into, to some extent, a villain's origin
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story.
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Yeah.
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Because at this point, you do see the remnants...
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Or not remnants.
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The seeds.
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They're only remnants because we know the future.
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Of the future, yeah.
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They're seeds.
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You see the kernels of rationality.
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You see the kernels of like, oh, all right, you're thinking.
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And then you see the kernels of delightfulness with the sing-along with the highwayman.
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Right.
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The talking about stealing beer out of carts.
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Like in wistful...
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This is Jack Nicholson's Joker is what this is.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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That's a great movie reference.
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Sure.
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And so as this goes along, I think what we're going to see is a man get worse and worse
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and worse.
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And I don't know.
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Yeah.
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There's no other direction for this to go.
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Oh, either that or for some reason, like somehow.
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Let's say we continue this investigation and it turns out in 2010, he peeks in this weird
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like woke, in his words, classical liberal concept and he's fucking crushing it.
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And then something bad happens to him.
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Like he falls into a vat of acid.
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Something along those lines, like something horrific has to turn him into the monster
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that he is today.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Maybe he got hit by a meteor or again, was murdered by the globalists and replaced with
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an Alex Jones chimera.
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I have called it right now, ladies and gentlemen.
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That's your prediction?
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Alex Jones that we know today was grown in a tank of a cow uterus or whatever it is he
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thinks they are.
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Like, you know, I'm very confused because I try and think about like a life events that
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have happened and certainly the divorce was a big event that happened.
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Didn't help.
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But I don't think-
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When was that?
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Like 20-
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2015.
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2015.
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Yeah.
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That's when it was formalized.
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But I mean, it could have been falling apart for a while before that.
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Oh, they always do.
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And that would be, that would actually be the least appealing narrative to me.
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If we go back and it turns out that around when the marriage fell apart, that is when
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everything changed.
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He lost his mind?
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Yeah.
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Because then it's just like-
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That would be such a bummer.
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Then it's just a sad human story.
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That would be such a bummer.
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Yeah.
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You kind of want it to have more-
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There's gotta be some drama.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But who knows?
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We'll see.
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All right.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Who's our friend?
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Who's our friend?
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Who's our friend?
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I don't know who our friend is.
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You're the one who runs this fucking show.
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I'll give you 20 questions to figure out who our friend is.
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All right.
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Is he white?
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Yes.
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No shit.
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How dare you even ask that?
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It's like we're playing Guess Who all over again.
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No, I was just thinking the same thing.
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Is he a pseudo-scientist?
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No.
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Is he a climate denier?
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Mm-mm.
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Mm?
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Debatable.
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Debatable?
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That's not a good answer.
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That's not essential to his character.
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All right.
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Is he a player?
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Is he a player in the game?
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Is he a secret agent type?
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No.
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He doesn't have any insider information?
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No.
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Okay.
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Is he former law enforcement of any kind?
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Not that I'm aware of, and not that matters.
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Okay.
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Like, that doesn't come into my house.
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All right.
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Is he Hamamoto?
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No.
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I wish.
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I haven't said his name yet in the show, if that narrows it down.
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Oh, well then now I don't even fucking know.
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I mean, just today.
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Oh, wait.
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No, tonight.
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Tonight.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Well then fuck it.
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Keep going.
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No, no, no.
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You go.
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You go.
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No, I don't have any more questions.
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Yes, you do.
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I have so many more questions.
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I just have too many questions.
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You can get there.
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Come on.
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You can do this.
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I believe in you.
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All right.
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I believe.
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Is he a member of a former Republican administration?
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No.
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Never been in politics.
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Never been in politics?
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Not that I'm aware of.
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I got nothing.
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He's been on our show exactly one time.
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Well then how the fuck am I supposed to know?
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I don't even remember.
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We talked to Stevie Larry Nixon.
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I forget his name half the time.
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It's very memorable.
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Is it Charlie Sheen?
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No.
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All right.
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Is it?
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No, I got nothing.
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Come on.
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Just tell me.
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Just tell me.
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Don't draw this out.
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Don't draw this out.
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Don't make me feel stupid.
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It's the guy who said that he saw Reagan get butt fucked.
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Oh.
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God damn it.
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I was actually going to make a reference to that earlier in the show.
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God damn it.
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Should have.
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It's Bob Chapman.
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Bob Chapman.
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The international forecaster, Bob Chapman.
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All right.
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He is a guy who runs a publication called The International Forecaster where they give
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a bunch of- Weather updates.
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Predictions about stuff.
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And hey, guess what we didn't realize from the times we've listened to him?
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He is just a fucking shill for gold sales.
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No.
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No.
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I think the only true place to be for safety is gold and silver related assets.
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And if you are a wealthy person and you want to have 20 or 30 or 40% of your assets in
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another safe place or a relatively safe place, I have recommended Swiss Franc treasuries.
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Other than that, I don't have anything to offer.
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Okay.
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So it's getting gold or silver or Swiss bank accounts.
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Reagan getting fucked.
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Swiss bank accounts.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Those are the safe places to put your money.
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That sounds right.
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Thank you, Bob.
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Sounds right.
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Thanks, Bob.
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That sounds right.
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Oh, so you're coming on-
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Is that all he talked about?
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You're coming on a conspiracy theorist show who is owned by a gold and silver sale operation.
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Right.
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A fraudulent, a notoriously fraudulent gold and silver sale operation.
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One who has lost his license, well, six years after this, but still, been sued multiple
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times.
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For a long time for the government to actually screw with rich people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's been, he's been committing the crimes for a long time.
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And so he comes on and says, the only safe place for you to be.
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Only safe place.
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Only safe place.
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Swiss bank accounts.
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Right.
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Which agreed.
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Is that agreed?
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Yeah.
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Don't you Cayman Islands it now?
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Don't you do something like that?
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No.
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Don't you set up a shell corporation?
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They didn't fuck with you.
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Like the Miami Marlins have a shell corporation.
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They have an office set up in fucking nowhere with nobody who does it.
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Too risky.
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So anyway, uh, you know, you want to sell gold and silver, Bob's got a recommendation
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for you.
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What's Bob's recommendation?
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How you doing, Bob?
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Um, but I wanted to ask Bob pretty much, is it even worth paying, um, I know it's pretty
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stupid, but I mean, just asking since the money is pretty much going to amount to nothing,
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is it pretty much even worth paying like most of these bills and credit card debts and all
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these sort of things that the American people are going to be having to deal with?
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I mean, if, if, if the money is pretty much going to be worth nothing at all.
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Well you've got to understand that the people that you owe the money to are still going
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to be within the system.
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There is going to be some kind of a system.
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Maybe it'll break down from time to time, but you're still going to have to pay it off.
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And it just because the, the value of the, the dollar goes down, it still means that
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you have to pay those bills.
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The way you protect yourself is to call Midas and purchase gold and silver coins.
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Oh no!
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Too overt.
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No!
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Too overt.
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He was almost giving great financial advice.
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Well.
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He was really close to it.
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Well, no, because that wasn't good advice.
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That's just, don't be an idiot.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's what I'm saying.
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That's.
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On Alex's show, that qualifies as the best advice anybody's ever given.
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Your debts don't disappear because of bad times.
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That's great.
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But that's a reality check.
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I still pay my credit card bill.
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I don't think the world is going to last another 10 years, but I don't want to get fucked over
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before then.
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That's a reality check in some, like, to people who are too far gone.
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For sure.
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But the other thing is, the answer is call Midas.
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Yeah, that's not great.
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That's too fucking overt.
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That is too much.
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So this interview goes on a little while.
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No, that's some full on better call Saul type shit right there.
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This interview goes on a little while, which by the way, they, speaking of which they fucking
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confiscated like 16 burner phones from Michael Cohen.
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That is some for real better call Saul type shit right there.
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Like you saw it in Breaking Bad whenever he opened the drawer with 16 burner phones.
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I think that's a guy who was the lawyer for the president.
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I find that hilarious.
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The limit on phones is three for me, for, for burner phones, humans, human.
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For humans.
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For human phones?
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Three phones.
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You can have three phones.
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If you have 16 phones, why do you have 16 phones?
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Three phones and one of them is in your house.
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One of them is a house phone.
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One's a landline.
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Well, maybe you got to call into radio shows or something like that.
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It's a better connection.
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You know, that, that sort of thing.
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I've heard people talk about that.
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I don't know.
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I didn't know that.
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I've heard that from people.
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Maybe they don't, they don't use Skype.
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I don't know.
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Just get a solid VoIP.
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That's all I'm saying.
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But look, I'll accept that as one phone.
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All right.
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That's one phone.
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Personal cell.
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Wireless.
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Business cell.
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Business.
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That's it.
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You got three?
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That's it.
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That's it.
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More than that.
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You have, uh, you have to quote, uh, Mr. Arnaz, you got some splainin' to do.
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I don't.
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You know what, I'll go four.
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I'll go four.
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I'll go four with the fourth being a wild card that I can't explain, but someone has
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a good explanation.
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You're cheating on your wife.
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Sure.
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Something like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I have an affair.
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That's fun.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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So four.
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That sounds fun.
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Four.
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Yeah.
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Four makes sense.
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Five, you're crazy.
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That seems like more than enough circumstantial evidence for any jury to convict you of literally
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anything.
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It's like, this guy had 16 phones.
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They're like, oh yeah, he probably did some illegal shit.
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It's one of those times.
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He had 16 phones.
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What kind of human being has 16 phones that isn't committing a crime?
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It's one of those times that I wish this argument would hold up in court.
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Come on.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Right?
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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You just, you put your elbow down on the juror box as a lawyer and you're like, come on.
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He's got 16 phones.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Guys.
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Objection, your honor.
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Hey.
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Sustained.
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Your honor.
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Come on.
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Let's have a sidebar.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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So they take some more calls.
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He's got 16 fucking phones.
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They take some more calls.
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And as much as we've enjoyed Alex being mad at the cops about how they killed an unarmed
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black man, which we've enjoyed.
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His uncharacteristic reasonability.
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It turns out that some of that might have more to do with hating the cops in 2009.
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He got pulled over, didn't he?
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He got some kind of tiki-tak bullshit.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I just, I'm not entirely sure that, I can't explain it, but I do know that it's not that
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he cares about black people because, listen to this.
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Here's some good news.
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Here's some good news.
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I went to the mall because the lady that cuts my hair is in the mall.
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I don't normally go to the mall, don't really like that culture, but I'm in there and I
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had three separate black guys, two of them working at little kiosks, stop me and go,
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you know, I always liked you for years, but kind of got upset at first when you didn't
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like Obama, but I want to basically apologize.
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You were right about Obama and I can see his betrayal, so give him some time.
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The people who won't wake up is white yuppies because they're just so arrogant, they're
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so trusting in the system that, Bob Chapman, you want to comment on that?
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No, no, it's perfect.
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So Reagan got buck-fucked.
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It's perfect.
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So the reason that I think that that is racist in character is because he says that he doesn't
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like the culture of malls and then immediately is like, a bunch of black people come over
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and told me that they're sorry about criticizing me for not liking Obama.
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Really?
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Well, but the fact...
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That, I did not get that.
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The fact that his mind went so quickly to apologetic black people coming up to him in
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the mall after he said he didn't like the culture of the mall.
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The culture of the mall thing did not bother me at all.
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I don't like the culture of a mall.
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Has nothing to do with race.
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I think the race issue comes up when he specifically says, three black people in his traditional
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style of, this is a made up thing and I have to specifically point out minorities in order
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to bolster my credibility as though I have any amongst minorities.
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But I also think from context clues, and even though we're so thrown by this man in 2009,
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I still think I understand his brain pretty well.
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Oh no, he's still a virulent racist.
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And when he says, I don't like the culture of the mall, I think he's responding to black
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people being at the mall.
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I think that's what he...
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Really?
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Because he so quickly is saying, because he, okay, if you listen to that clip, he starts
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with here's the good news.
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I don't like the culture of the mall, but I was at the mall because I had to get a haircut
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and black people came up to me and apologized.
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The track of that sentence leads a person, a reasonable thinking person to assume that
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the culture he doesn't like in the mall has something to do with the black people who
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apologize to him.
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I can see that.
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Generally, he doesn't like it when black people don't apologize to him at the mall when he's
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there.
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That's fair.
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And the good news is the last time he was there, three of them did.
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That's how I parse the sentence.
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I get that.
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I understand that.
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I'm going to be honest though, my own personal biases-
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I also don't like malls.
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My own personal biases came out and I was like, oh, he doesn't like the youths.
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He watched Mall Rats in the nineties and he was like, ah, I hate malls.
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They're all going to try and put shit on my pretzels.
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What do you mean you don't like the culture of malls?
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You get your hair cut in a mall.
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You can get your hair cut anywhere.
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There are so many places.
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There's salons down the street from your fucking Austin.
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You live in Austin, you dumb fuck.
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Yeah.
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Come on.
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What are you talking about?
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You can get your hair cut fucking anywhere.
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It's nonsense.
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And also- Now that's a lady that we should interview.
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It would be better if Alex- I want to know about the lady who cut Alex Jones' hair in
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2009.
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I don't.
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I do.
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It probably took about 45 seconds.
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Still did not have a whole lot of hair back then, says the guy with a ridiculous mane
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that- Hey, hey, hey.
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Don't talk about receding hairlines, folks.
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I like having this hair, but man, I don't like how much it costs to get it cut.
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So I shan't.
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My bill is going down as my hairline recedes, I'll tell you that right now.
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Well, that's the good news.
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No black people have come up to me to tell me about how apologetic they are about my
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hairline.
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So we have one more clip, and it's just further bringing home that- I've said this to you
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a couple times.
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I've said this to other friends.
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To Jesus in your quiet moments.
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I regret not naming this show They're All Con Men, because I think that more than talking
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about Alex Jones, we talk a lot about Alex Jones.
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But the through line is all these other people who come up on his show, all the people who
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are involved with Project Camelot, all these like Gavin McGinnis, Mike Cernovich, Jack
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Pessobic, Steve Pacanik even, Hamamoto, they're all fucking con men.
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Everybody, they're all con men.
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Milo.
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Milo.
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Milo's a clunky con man.
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But all of these people are running elaborate cons.
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So you regret not naming our show something that is even harder to find than our Facebook
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group.
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Yeah, probably.
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But the reason I bring this up is that you got Bob Chapman on here, and he said the only
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safe thing to do is buy gold and silver.
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And fuck Reagan in the butt.
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And then he said to a caller, what you need to do is call Midas.
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And so here's how this show ends up.
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All right, we are back live with Bob Chapman.
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I'm going to come back in the next little segment, take a few more calls.
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But right now, briefly, I wanted Bob and Ted Anderson to have a chance to talk.
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Because I know the Midas resources also offers a trial copy of the International Forecaster.
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Real quick.
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Wait, what?
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Real quick.
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That is some cross promotion right there.
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Bob Chapman.
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That is corporate synergy, Dan.
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Bob Chapman.
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That's just great business.
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Bob Chapman's publication is distributed, at least in part, by Midas Resources.
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So when he tells people to call Midas, he is doing a quid pro quo in some way for help
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with distribution.
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And they're all doing it on this show in public.
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So good.
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It's fucking amazing.
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So good.
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But Ted is doing, gold is up again today, but Ted bought it a few weeks ago.
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And it was down.
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At the 760 level.
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Whoa.
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So he's, again, the price is close to, I guess, $90 under what it is right now.
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So he factors that into the savings.
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Ted, tell folks out there about today and throughout the weekend, the gold offer, and
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then I don't know what Bob's going to say.
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I want to see what he's going to say because he's a great analyst on this, of how good
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a deal he thinks it is.
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That's great.
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So Bob Chapman and Ted Anderson, you guys talk.
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Yeah, well, basically.
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That's code for I want you to sandwich.
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You don't know what he's going to say.
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He's probably going to say it's a good deal, but I don't know what he's going to say about
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it.
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I predict Bob Chapman's going to be suspicious of this deal.
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But what would you give for Ted to go on and be like, today's not a good day.
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Not great.
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Today's not a good day to buy gold.
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Wait until tomorrow.
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Right.
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Basically what I have right now, Alex, I mean, gold did edge up again today and seen a peak
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of 868.90, which means it is getting stronger.
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The employment figures came out way low.
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I mean, way higher than what it was melting down.
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What I did is I picked up some Franks here just a short while ago at that price level
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that you're referring to.
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And they're currently at 204, where the British servant is at 252.
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Walking Liberty halves are at $8.40 or $168 per roll at 20.
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All that stuff is in really a good buying range at this time.
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Obviously with the economy melting down, I just can't think of a better time getting
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involved in the gold and silver.
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Plus also having the support of rising market prices, you know, the whole thing, I mean,
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that gun issue that you're talking about earlier on should make people's blood boil.
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So even Ted Anderson, as an energetic force on this show, is saying like, in order to
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help sell my gold, I'm going to refer back to a gun issue that you were talking about.
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And spoiler alert, that was Alex earlier in the show talking about how everyone's going
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to get their guns taken, and he's like, I don't remember that.
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I don't remember the name of the bill.
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I've been meaning to cover it.
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Make your guns out of gold.
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They'll never be able to take them then.
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He's like, I don't remember the name of the bill, but I'm going to get to it.
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I can't find it.
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And then it turns out it's a world net daily fucking article.
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Like that's not a bill.
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Didn't fucking happen.
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Nope.
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And also real fun.
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I mean, these people are fucking so overt.
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They're so fucking hilarious.
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There's only one clip that I wish I would have pulled, and that's where Bob Chapman
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is like, you better bury your guns and ammunition.
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See, now there we go.
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He's read the book.
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Where to hide your guns, my friend.
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That's a man who hides his guns.
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It might be even further synergy that we're unaware of that Bob Chapman owns wheretohideyourguns.com.
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Is that still up?
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I think it might be.
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Someone told me it might be.
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I don't remember.
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Anyway, we had to wrap this up.
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We've gotten to the end of this exploration of three days in January 2009, and here's
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what I think are the important takeaways.
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One, Alex is already giving unacceptable and unexplainable pro-Russia narratives in 2009
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for major world events.
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But he's still, he's at this time, he's sneaking them in.
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Somewhat.
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He's not spending 25 minutes talking about it.
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He's just tossing in like, hey, everything Russia does is great.
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We're gonna move on.
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Oh, it doesn't bring it back up on the night at all.
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It never came up.
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No, of course not.
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Why would it?
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I didn't just selectively edit.
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As you said, the situation was resolved immediately, right?
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It took two weeks.
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It did not?
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Wait, it took two weeks?
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Yeah, and people were dying in the cold.
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Well, then I assume he brought it up again.
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Maybe.
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I mean, he might, I don't know.
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He didn't.
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We might see that in the next episode.
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Who knows?
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You've already said he doesn't.
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Who knows?
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Who knows?
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You do.
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I don't know that much.
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Okay.
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Because actually Alex goes on vacation.
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I should be clear about that.
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That's a little piece I know.
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Of course.
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There you go.
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All right.
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All right.
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Alex has a-
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Alex then bounces.
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Alex has a vacation, and he has a guy named Jason Burmas, host, who I have no idea who
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that guy is.
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What is that?
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I have no idea who that guy is.
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All right.
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Now I'm interested.
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He's a character from these days and not present.
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Is he better than Owen Troyer?
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I would bet money he's come out since he quit and said that Alex is full of shit, I guess,
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because most of his old employees have.
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Right.
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But the other thing that I think is important is that Alex is a racist, but not that racist,
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which is interesting.
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Also, he's willing to talk negatively about Israel.
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He's one of those reflexive racists at this point in time, where it-
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No, no.
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It's deep.
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It's deep in me.
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It's deep in me.
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Exactly.
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It's not so much that he is out and out voting for racism, which is what he is now.
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It's more like it's just he's a good old boy who was raised in Texas, so of course he's
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fucking racist.
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It's the underlying-
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Yeah.
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Even when he's trying not to be racist, he's still going to throw in a wampum.
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He's just a monster.
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But also, at the same time, still willing to have an interview with a guy who is there
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for first people's rights, which is pretty crazy compared to the president.
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Bananas.
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Also-
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I don't know if he's ever even spoken to a non-white person in the past two years, aside
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from the nation of Islam.
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Oofarikon?
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Yeah.
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He's had Candace Owens on, who Kanye really loves.
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Let's not talk about it.
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You know, I think that there's a lot of interesting threads here, and I hope that we're able
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to get to the bottom of a lot of them.
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This is a whole new wrinkle.
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I'm so fascinated by this.
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How much does he sell the bullhorn for?
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That's what we've got to find out.
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Do we not know how much he winds up selling it for?
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Not yet.
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There was a $50,000 bid.
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That's all we know.
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That can't be real.
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Might be.
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Who knows?
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I want that bullhorn.
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We've got to wrap this up.
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It's deeply in the past.
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You're never going to find this bullhorn.
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You can, first off, follow us at Knowledge Underscore Fight on Twitter, if you know where
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this bullhorn is, you better goddamn tweet it at Knowledge Underscore Fight.
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For sure.
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I'll tell you that right fucking now.
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Or you can send us a message on Facebook.
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All bullhorn-related messages are welcome.
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Or you could leave a five-star bullhorn review on iTunes.
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Absolutely.
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You could definitely do that.
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If you leave a review on iTunes and mention Terror Crusher One, we will send you a shirt
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that we don't have.
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Who knows?
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All right.
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Let's wrap this up.
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We've got to get out of here.
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What else do we got?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Now, if you want to support the show, go to knowledgefight.com, click Support the Show,
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and then mail us a Tyranny Crusher one.
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That's the best way to support this show.
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God damn it, if I get a broken bullhorn in the mail and it's not Tyranny Crusher One?
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Just another broken bullhorn?
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It's just a regular broken bullhorn with Tyranny Crusher One spray painted on it.
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If that happens, I will know that it was CENTCOM that did it.
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You know what I'll do?
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Sell it for 50 grand.
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I'll tell you that right now.
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There you go.
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Anyway, it's your turn.
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It's my turn?
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Oh, dude, you know exactly what... It's like the number of people...
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Ted Anderson?
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Do you think it's going to be related to this show that we just did?
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This was fantastic, but you know who I want to go fuck themselves?
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All the Democrats in the world?
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You're goddamn fucking right.
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Go fuck yourselves.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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