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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jarden!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan... Dan?
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How do you do?
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Dan.
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Yes sir.
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I, uh...
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Beard hair stuck in my mic. This is a disaster. Anyway, sorry, go ahead.
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You know a lot about beard hair stuck in my mic.
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I do, you don't know much about it.
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Not anymore, not since I...
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You smooth five o'clock shadow looking motherfucker.
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Not since I sheared it off.
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Indeed, I also know a lot about Alex Jones.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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Hey, how's that?
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There we go.
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Um, guys, today we've got an interesting show for you.
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We're going to be going over Monday, April 16th, and the life of Alex Jones.
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But before we do that, we've got to give a shout out to a couple of our new donors.
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Oh shit!
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What's going on out there, Ian?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Congratulations, I'm becoming a policy wonk.
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It's amazing to me that you've only won the few Oscars that you have, Mr. McKellen.
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Oh, okay, I thought you were going to...
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Has he won an Oscar?
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He has to have, right?
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Gotta feel like he has, but I bet he hasn't.
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He might not have.
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Could be one of those massive, lifelong snub jobs.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He'll wind up getting like, what is it, a career Oscar or whatever.
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Whatever Al Pacino got for the scent of a woman.
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I predict in the chat room that people are just like, he's won seven.
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You guys are idiots.
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I know Gandalf didn't win him an Oscar.
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Certainly didn't.
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But someone who does deserve an Oscar is our other donor.
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What's going on out there, Elizabeth?
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you so much.
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Wonderful.
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Thank you very much, Elizabeth.
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If you would like to become a policy wonk...
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Elizabeth Hurley, you look amazing for your age.
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She does.
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You're gorgeous.
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Wonderful woman.
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With a nice little British accent.
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If you'd like to become a policy wonk too, you can do so by going to our website,
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knowledgefight.com, clicking the Sport the Show button.
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I'd like to say there's a number of people who donated since Alex Jones turned on Trump.
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And we appreciate it so much.
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He assumed they'll be canceling their donations immediately.
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I have no idea why that rallied the troops, but man, I appreciate it.
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We are shockingly close to like making this work for me.
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Like living wise.
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Really?
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Yeah, we are getting ever closer and everyone, I appreciate it so much.
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If you would like to donate, we would appreciate it.
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It goes towards survival.
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Yeah, it goes towards food.
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Yeah, more or less.
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And to a lesser extent, cigarettes.
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And rent.
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Yeah, that's a big one.
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So last we spoke, Jordan.
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Yes, last time.
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We did an emergency episode that came out on Saturday.
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And on that episode, we experienced Alex Jones telling Donald Trump that he is shit on his shoe.
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He is not as big a man as Alex Jones.
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Not just that, but he's got some shit up his dirty, hairy asshole.
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And it's ISIS.
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It's ISIS.
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Yeah.
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I believe so.
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The other choice quotes were fuck Trump and fuck everybody.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
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That's a good one.
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He was in a fucking piece of shit.
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Fucking fuck you.
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He was in a real bad state on Friday night.
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Let's check in how he's doing on Monday.
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I still back Trump.
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I just flipped out.
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I'm all right.
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Okay.
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You're so fucking boring.
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This is so frustrating.
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You had ISIS up his dirty asshole.
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That's your job.
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Yeah.
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That's where you jump off.
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How do you go back to somebody with ISIS up their dirty asshole?
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Man, we were talking before the show and I told you that there was a reason why I've
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been down in the dumps and I didn't want to explain it to you until we got on air.
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This is fucking why.
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This is so lame.
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This is so lame.
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We had this possibility laying in front of us of like a complete narrative shift.
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Oh my God.
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The world was our oyster.
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After this year and a half of watching him just be a boot licking jerk, we could finally
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see, and I don't think that there, I look, I don't know.
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I've heard some people on a, in our Facebook group who were speculating of like a return
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to the Alex of the past.
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Let me be the first to tell you there is no redemption.
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There is no redemption story.
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I'm holding out hope for, but I want something different.
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I mean, he's still a white nationalist at the end of the day.
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Exactly.
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Trump is just not his white nationalists anymore or wasn't.
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Yeah.
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And now he is again.
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It's just pathetic.
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I wanted something different.
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I wanted a new flavor to experience instead of this, this shit on a shingle he's been
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feeding me for all this time.
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He had such an opportunity.
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It's so disappointing.
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It's so like, I, it's weird for me to say to a white nationalist garbage fucking Trump
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loving pile of shit that I'm disappointed in you.
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I'm pretty disappointed.
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But I'm pretty disappointed in you.
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And as much fun.
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I'm not mad.
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I'm disappointed in you child.
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As much fun as we had with the, like him freaking out, drunkenly on air.
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I still, I still thought it was petulant and stupid.
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Of course.
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But at the same time, you're like, Hey, come on, dude.
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I ride this momentum.
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I know.
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Ride it.
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It would have been awesome.
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You know what though?
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I don't know.
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I can't figure out exactly what the situation is.
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Cause Roger Stone's not on this episode.
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And I don't know.
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I don't know if he like got a call from him or something.
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Money, money, money.
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His money backers were like, uh, no.
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I think it's not, I think, I think that he's still holding out some, like, you saw what
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I could do there.
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Right.
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And I can do that again.
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Right.
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All it takes is a little bit of Jack and I'm going to be, I'm going to do that to you again.
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Cause it's like a lot of the coverage of it was like, how stupid is Trump?
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He's lost Alex Jones.
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Right.
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You know, that sort of thing.
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Yeah.
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So Trump took a little bit of a hit, I think.
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No, he didn't.
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Wow.
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He still doesn't know who Alex Jones is.
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I think in the online world, he took a little bit of a hit and he probably, I think that
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there was a possible, I don't know.
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You're right.
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What am I fucking talking about?
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Trump has no idea who Alex Jones is.
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The only person who took a hit from that was Alex.
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Cause he realized, Oh shit, no one else likes me anymore.
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Except for Trump fans.
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Right.
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What am I going to do?
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Right.
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He's the best I've got.
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Rand Paul is not electable.
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Even if you went back to him, Ted Cruz is a disaster.
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You can't go back to him.
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He's the Zodiac killer.
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There's literally nobody else on the global scene that Alex could shift and be behind.
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All he could do is go solo again.
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Like he had for, for a long time.
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Right.
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When he was poorer.
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Exactly.
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Money.
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Exactly.
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Money.
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All of that fan base.
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MONEY!
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All that fan base would go away with him.
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But I do think here, here's what's interesting.
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Yes.
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He is back more or less being like.
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In the saddle again.
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He's going to ride.
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I do think that he's, he's cucked himself out a little bit by, by going back.
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But he's also, I think everyone who doesn't actually listen to Alex Jones's show
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is missing out on the larger narrative.
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And that is, I think Alex Jones is about to lose his goddamn mind and turn this into an
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actual cult.
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Yeah.
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Like he's, he's gone so close to towing the line of Info Wars being a cult.
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And listen to this first clip.
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I think it's the introduction of like, things are, things are not good.
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Most children out there can't even hold conversations.
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I mean, society is collapsing, ladies and gentlemen, and it's going to get a lot worse.
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We need rehabs from cell phones.
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We need rehabs from internet.
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We need rehabs from television.
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We need rehabs from the culture.
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I'm telling you, if I had the money, I'd set up resorts with no TV, no radio, no newspapers,
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no telephones.
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And with, you know, golf and Frisbee and swimming pools and volleyball and hiking.
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I sleep with underage girls.
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Biggest kids in the world.
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That's what people need.
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I know they've got some of these people where people forest bathe and they bought these
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little places to stay in these little cabins.
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It's gotta happen, folks.
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We are dying.
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Well, I mean, did he get one of the Beach Boys to help him out?
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Is he living with one of that guys?
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Like legitimately, how quick would that turn dark?
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Oh, Alex Jones running a series of communes where you're not allowed to watch TV.
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You can't have access to the outside world.
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No phones.
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Right.
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All we do is go swim.
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He's essentially talking about Dr. Kellogg.
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Yeah.
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Like, we're gonna go swim.
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You get two enemas a day.
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All we eat is this bullshit.
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Yeah, he might as well be.
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Like, this is like, I think, and this isn't the only time he brings up these sorts of
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weird fantasies.
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And now granted, in the Secret of 2017 episode that we listened to, he did start crying and
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talking about how we all belong on farmhouses.
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Yes.
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So that sort of thing is inside his consciousness already.
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But this is a different wrinkle to it because he's saying, I don't even think no matter
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what you do, you can make it in this world.
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I think we got to go to the woods or whatever, and it's going to get worse.
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And I am the Unabomber.
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They got the wrong guy.
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It's me.
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That's why Unabomber.
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Check out my manifesto.
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That's why Alex thinks that the only thing in that Bill Joy article, why the future doesn't
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need us, is the Unabomber quote because he's so proud of it.
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Yeah.
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Hey, I fucking wrote that.
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No, there's no way he could be the Unabomber.
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That was eloquently written.
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Yeah, Alex is illiterate.
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So at this point, you know, we've got this, like, we've got to go to the woods kind of
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narrative beginning, which is not great, but we got to go to the woods.
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And I don't disagree.
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I feel that way sometimes.
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No, I totally get it.
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I just don't want to commune.
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I want to be alone in the woods on a cult.
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Could you also get a good, could you get a good massage at Alex Jones's resort?
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Probably.
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Let me tell you, I've only got one massage in my life and I'll say I'm not for them.
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Yeah, I've never, never gotten one.
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I had one time I threw out my back and at the time I was a member of a gym.
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I had a masseuse there.
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Okay.
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And so I went and got a massage and it was, it was a comedy of errors.
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It was just, I was coming in as like a 32 year old dude.
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I'd never gotten a massage before.
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So this was last year?
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Like two years ago.
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Okay.
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I didn't know what protocol was or anything.
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Like I didn't, should I get naked?
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Right.
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What do I do?
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Do I jump in?
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Do we, do we talk a little bit first?
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How do I tip?
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Uh, well, you know, like all of that, all the form with the tip.
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All right.
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Hey, it was all just so weird.
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Um, anyway, uh, speaking of weird things, the other thing Alex Jones needs to do is
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like, I got to go back to my bread and butter.
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I got to go back to what made me.
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And that is chimeras.
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Suddenly you can go have a new humanoid made, grown in a tank.
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They'll say, oh, it's proprietary.
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You can't see it.
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The tank is a brainless cow, and this is classified, but I'm going to, I got this
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from classified sources.
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Most of this is already public, but they have brainless cows.
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All they have is a brainstem so that they quote, don't go through any pain.
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That's called the tank.
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And it's all in an enclosure.
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And then the tanks grow.
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The humanoids believe they're called the humanoids case.
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Who are all the Frank Herbert fan.
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And by the way, that's in all the literature, but the part about science fiction, they
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admit they're growing them in God, the new thing is they're going to call them tanks.
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So, so no one even tells you that there's a cow in there doing this.
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Okay.
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All right, Alex.
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Yeah, that's there.
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Yeah, that's literally, that's literally dune.
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He's just describing dune.
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He just read dune.
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This is one of my like least favorite things about Alex Jones is the, like, this is classified.
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That sort of thing.
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Well, now, now I can't look into this, but I can tell you that everything that is on
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the record about chimeras and you're like growing organs inside pigs and stuff like
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that does not involve brainless animal tanks.
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Well, now let me ask you a question slightly unrealistic.
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Let me ask you a question.
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Yeah.
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Is he really just kind of insulting like, like women?
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Was it, is cow like a euphemism?
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No, no, he's talking literal cows.
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Literal cows?
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Literal brainless cows.
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How could you grow a humanoid in a brainless cow?
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You put them in there.
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That's it?
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I don't know.
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It's classified.
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You just cram them in?
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I can't fucking look into it.
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It's classified.
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I don't know.
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Now I just have an image of a guy with like a, a little egg and he's just like, get in
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there, you piece of shit.
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Right.
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The science behind, uh, like growing organs in animals and stuff like that, that have,
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you know, slight human genes in them for the purposes of growing organs that could be
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transplanted into other people is really fascinating, but it's not that.
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It's not that.
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Um, if, no, it ain't.
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I will say if that is going on, that's troubling.
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Troubling if true.
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Um, I would like to see that classified information, Alex, cause I'm going to be honest.
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I would like to see that.
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So Alex is clearly also like, like we played in that intro clip.
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He's, he's waffling on Trump, but he, he, he speaks a little more on it in this, this
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next clip.
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Like where are his allegiances?
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I've wanted to support president Trump in that I know he's an anti-globalist.
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I know the globalists hate him.
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I know the power structure doesn't like him because he actually wants to be the president.
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Trump literally said, I am a globalist.
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Let me ask you a question, Dan.
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What also happened today in regards to Trump and quote unquote hating the globalist hating
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is this the TPP situation?
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No, it is that he paused all the sanctions on Russia.
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Oh yeah.
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There's that Nikki Haley announced the, uh, we're definitely going to be doing that.
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And Trump was like, nah, dude, we don't, we don't mess with Russia for any reason ever.
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Yeah.
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I read a article in the Hill about that and, uh, I'm willing to believe that Nikki Haley
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might've announced something prematurely.
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I'm willing to believe that possibility, but at the same time, why wouldn't you do that
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Trump?
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It's a good question.
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Uh, I don't know.
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It's, uh, it's weird.
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Anyway, Alex, uh, you know, Trump is anti-globalist though, though all of these things and, uh,
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him saying I'm a globalist.
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Yeah.
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But I know he's done some basic things that are good for the economy in the country.
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Like a bitch.
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But if he starts going sideways to their agenda, it's the global awakening to what's happening
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and nationalism and populism that I am loyal to, not Trump.
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And I'm not thinking Trump's even a bad guy.
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He's surrounded, he's being demonized, he's being persecuted, he's being lied about,
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he's being pressured.
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And there's the old trap of sir.
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Here's the intelligence.
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Okay.
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Bomb it.
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My approval rating will go up.
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That's not good.
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If your guy is that, uh, that's stupid.
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God damn it, Alex.
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You got it.
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Yeah.
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You figured that shit out.
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How are you so stupid on everything else?
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It makes perfect sense.
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That's exactly why he bombed shit.
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He's too busy thinking about these brainless cows.
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The last time he bombed something, Brian Williams sucked his dick.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That's how it works.
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And now you can get that, uh, that, uh, you know, that going again, you can go for a second
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ride as it were.
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Um, and are everybody in government is, has always been a itching to kind of get some
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of that, get their rocks off with bombs and shit.
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So even, even shit Democrats are going to support it and they're going to be like, he's
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really tough on Syria and blah, blah, blah.
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While at the meeting at the same time doing fuck all.
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But now let's consider too, like what he's talking about there is he says, my, my allegiances
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and my loyalty lies with the populist nationalist movements around the world.
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Yeah.
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If we count those down on one hand, we got Putin, we got Marine Le Pen.
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She's great.
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We got Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.
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Fantastic.
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Those are the only people he seems to ever bring up as populist nationalist folk.
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Well, he's a big fan of Nigel Farage too, right?
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True.
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True.
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Brexit.
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Yep.
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Uh, do we have any of the populist nationalists in Africa?
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No.
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Does he ever bring those up?
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No.
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I mean, except for the white ones in South Africa.
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Sure.
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The Swethlanders.
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Yeah.
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He does bring them up.
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Does he even know where South America is?
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Does he know what populism is code for?
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Does he know what nationalism is code for?
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I think he does.
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I think he knows what nationalism means.
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I don't think he, nobody should ever use the word populism.
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It's so infuriating to me because it's a non word that people use to describe anything
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where it seems like, oh yeah, people are angry about this.
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It's fucking stupid.
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People are stupid.
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I don't disagree with you, but he's-
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So is Brian Williams.
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I'm pissed off at Brian Williams today.
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Sure, Brian Williams sucks.
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He's a fucking, yeah.
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But you hear this, my allegiances are to this nationalist movement worldwide and it's like,
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well, all those people are proto-fascists.
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Yeah.
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So if that's what you're, if that's what you're into worldwide, boy, I'll tell you what.
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Proto?
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Well, or aspiring because most of them lost.
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Aspiring, aspiring.
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Most of them lost their elections.
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You can be a fascist as a civilian and it's fine.
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Listen, Marine, you can be anything you want to be when you grow up.
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I want to be a fascist.
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Fuck!
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God dammit!
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That's not what her dad would say.
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No, no, no.
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I was, I was doing, she was at school.
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Oh, I was assuming it was at home.
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She was at a wonderful French private school where they were absolutely appalled at her behavior.
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Right, right.
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Yeah.
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Um, something that is appalling again, I can't do the transitions today.
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Um, we talked, we started earlier in the show talking about Alex wanting to go to the woods,
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wanting this to be like, and this is, this is where he gets back to it and it's,
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it's more troubling than the last clip.
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But I got to tell you, I don't think you can save your family and I don't think you can
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save yourself at this point being amongst people that are like this.
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I think I'm discovering the same thing that the pilgrims figured out in
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England and in the Netherlands 450 years ago.
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Whatever you're about to say, it's wrong.
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The same thing other people figured out when they involved themselves in an exodus.
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Super wrong.
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The Israelites out of Egypt, you name it.
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What, where are we going?
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I don't think you can live in this modern world and even homeschool your kids and get out of this.
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Don't do that.
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In fact, there's nowhere to hide.
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Actually, it's, it's, it's absolute cancer and it is the end of humanity
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and it's already got his tentacles all around our throats.
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Whoa, that's pretty apocalyptic.
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That's a, that, that's pretty apocalyptic culty right there.
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That's the, the world is ending.
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All kids can't talk anymore.
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Everyone needs to get off electronics.
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We got to go to Alex Jones branded resorts around the world.
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It's impossible to make, uh, make it through life with these liberals all around you.
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Even if you homeschool your kids, there's no way you can't do it.
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Again, you shouldn't homeschool your kids.
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I, Alex Jones, am like a pilgrim, uh, which is an inaccurate reading of the pilgrim's history.
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Or actually perhaps very accurate because he is a fucking asshole, uh,
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who is absolutely a religious supremacist as well.
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So of course we want to kick him out and make him go to somewhere else.
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But then you get the Israelites in Egypt and it's like, are you enslaved bro?
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Um, the liberals did it?
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That metaphor might be lacking a tiny bit.
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Eh, might be wrong.
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Wait, we're the, anybody, anybody who's done an exodus.
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That's, that's his, that's his, uh, what reference there?
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I mean, he's, he's.
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What's your favorite exodus?
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Ah, the book.
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I don't know.
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The book?
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Yeah, it was the Israelites, I guess.
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It wasn't that great.
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It was kind of a, it's kind of boring.
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Yeah.
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They just wandered for 40 years.
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I like that though.
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It's not about the destination.
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It's about the journey.
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Um, I will say that I think he's probably pretty close to like pitching himself as a
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modern day Socrates.
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I think we might be close to that.
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Oh, can we make him poison himself?
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Well, to be fair, if you go and read it.
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Yeah, no, no, no.
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You deserved that.
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Yeah, well, and not even that, it was more like, they were like, Hey.
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Please leave.
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Please leave.
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If you don't leave, we have to make you drink poison.
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We don't want you to.
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Right.
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We had all his buddies come and be like, we got a boat for you.
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Let's just leave.
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Yeah, let's just go, man.
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Let's have an exodus that would become one of Alex Jones's favorite exodus.
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He got, he got found, he got found guilty.
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And then the, uh, the Boulay was just like, uh, Hey, uh, you can choose your own punishment.
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Right.
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And he's like, I think you guys should feed me for the rest of my life.
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Like, all right, we're killing you.
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All right.
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You're an asshole.
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Yeah, you suck.
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You're a dick.
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Yeah.
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That's one of the things that I've always like been fascinated by about Socrates is like people,
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you know, like thinking he was kind of just a questioner that was like, Hey,
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I just like to provoke thought and whatever.
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You're like, no, he was an asshole.
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Yeah.
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He was a straight up asshole.
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He was more like, they, they talk about the Socratic method as being like, you ask questions
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and bring people to their own understanding.
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And it's more like the guy who's like, Oh yeah.
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Well, what do you think about that?
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Yeah.
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Just, Oh yeah.
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Well, what do you think about that?
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That tone hadn't developed.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That, uh, that, uh, sarcastic voice.
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Um, so, uh, we covered it, uh, in nauseating detail.
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Uh, the Friday episode where he turned on Trump, here's his take on it on Monday.
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Oh no.
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And I apologize to some of the audience that saw one of the live feeds that wasn't over
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the satellites, the TV stations, but I did here in studio for, for being angry and being
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a bit vulgar.
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But he's talking about the like Twitter clips that we heard of him, like screaming and stuff
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like that.
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He doesn't apologize for the, uh, Trump has ISIS up his dirty assholes.
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I was going to say, I feel like he should apologize to ISIS.
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Or screaming obscenity to the point where Owen Schreier had to remind him we're out
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of delay.
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So I try to control myself a lot.
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And
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it feels good to let yourself have an outburst.
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Occasionally it's cathartic.
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Sure.
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Was it fake?
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Absolutely not.
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But did I let the dog off the chain?
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Yes.
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Who, who, who, who, who knock because if they can start to turn Trump one degree, they can
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turn him 180 degrees.
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That's also not great to say about your guy.
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Yeah.
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Uh, that means compromise is impossible.
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Here's, here's the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the
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uh, here's essentially what he just said.
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Uh, if you turn Trump one degree, he is weak and pathetic and will go all the way easily.
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There's no, there's no like Trump is going to meet you halfway.
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There's either you get a little bit of a break in that armor and then you get all of it.
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Yeah.
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There is no, there is no possibility.
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Like what he's saying is to a great degree is my boy can't govern.
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No, no, no.
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Absolutely.
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He can strong arm.
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He can be a dictator, but your boy can't govern.
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Well also he can be very weak willed and callow.
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Oh yeah.
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Got that chat rooms.
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Reminding me.
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He also didn't apologize for screaming about sucking on a ding dong.
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Well, there's nothing to apologize there for.
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Oh man.
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There's no apology.
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Insinuating that Roger Stone was a beard.
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Yeah.
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Weirdly.
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I mean, Roger Stone, Roger Stone fucks.
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Yeah.
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So the international community is largely of the mind that the gassing that took place
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in Syria was done by Assad or Assad's forces.
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Yeah, it absolutely was.
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I think our position, I like our position a bit in terms of there might've been oversight
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on it.
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There might not have been, who knows?
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Those answers are impossible to know.
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Really all kinds of stuff.
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I feel like a lot of people discount the fact that everybody is kind of shitty at their
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jobs one day of the week.
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That's why the expression, the fog of war exists.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And they were just probably like, frankly, it's entirely possible that the people in
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the helicopter who were dropping those bombs or the plane or whatever were just like, ah
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shit, we labeled these wrong.
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I think that's too, that's too easy and out, but.
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It is too, no, no, no.
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Why are they in the plane in the first place?
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You know, that kind of thing.
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But be that as it may, there's also stories.
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But on the other hand, the first rule of Syrian Boy Scouts is be prepared to drop chemical
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weapons.
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Why not?
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There's also a story that's coming out today, I believe, I believe it was today, it might've
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been yesterday, I'm not entirely sure, but about Russia blocking investigators from looking
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at the sites.
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I can't imagine why.
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And that's certainly very confusing.
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Is it because they also helped cover up the sites themselves?
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It does look that way.
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I could.
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But Alex, in the middle of the show, accidentally reads an anti-Russian headline about the Syrian
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situation.
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And here's how he deals with it.
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A new breaking article.
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Let's put that on screen, because I've been showing what the Russians are saying.
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I want to show what Syria strike live updates.
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Russia may have tampered with chemical attack sites.
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US envoy says, yeah, they wouldn't let them in the day of the bombing because the road
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was closed.
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The road was closed, so now the US envoy saying the British group trying to go and test for
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chemicals might've been blocked.
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That's Herat saying that.
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Okay.
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The road was blocked.
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That's a...
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That's a stunning dismissal.
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A lot of war-torn countries, you're like, oh man, if this two-lane road is blocked,
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guess we're done.
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Seems like that would be a very different story, because that's really easy to, you
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know, suss out.
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Road was blocked.
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Right.
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Hey, that happens.
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Very different than being stopped from...
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Oh, it's like, it's like on the, it's like when I'm on the red line and they're like,
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there's going to be delays because there was a chemical weapons attack at Chicago and State,
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and it's like, oh, again.
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Yeah.
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I know, it's, you can't, you can't avoid it.
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That's a, it's a real pain in the ass in this Chicago commute.
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I know.
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It's like an extra 12 minutes.
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Yeah.
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Um, so I mentioned to you, uh, up top that, uh, Roger Stone is nowhere to be found.
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I don't know what he's doing.
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He might be hiding out.
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Escaping.
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Uh, it's entirely possible.
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So Alex has got to get some other folks in, uh, to fill out the show.
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And so he has Gerald Cilenti on.
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It's kind of boring.
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It's another, it's a continuation of, um, the, uh, Joel Skousen appearance from Friday.
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Tell me I'm a good boy.
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Yeah.
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There's, there is stuff like where, uh, uh, Gerald Cilenti is like, you didn't do anything
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wrong.
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No.
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If Trump went bad, it's not your fault.
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He did that.
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Not you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no big deal.
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You did good.
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And look, I like that you're supporting him again too.
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You know what?
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You go back.
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I think Gerald Cilenti is actually 50 50 on it.
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Really?
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He doesn't seem to have like, he, he just wants to talk about trends and money markets
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and stuff like that.
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Of course.
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He's more interested in that.
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So I don't even think he, uh.
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I want to talk to the info war staffer who was, uh, who watched that video and then the
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next day was like, oh shit, I'm going to get to do some exciting shit now.
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And then has to go into work on Monday.
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Just, I don't think even Monday.
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Cause he put out a video on like a Saturday and his Sunday show.
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Also just being like, I have no backbone.
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I will, I will give into anything.
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So I am, uh, I'm so weak.
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So weak, low energy.
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Oh yeah.
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Um, actually he's pretty high energy.
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That's not a criticism I can give him.
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Still, still sad and pathetic.
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So the other guest that he has on here on Monday's show is a gentleman by the name of
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Paul Craig Roberts and Paul Craig Roberts worked in Reagan's, uh, treasury department.
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I believe he was an under secretary in the treasury department.
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Okay.
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Um, and we'll get into some other troubling pieces of his history, but here is a clip.
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So once again, to reiterate how bad Reagan's administration was, eventually half of them
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show up on the info war show.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Here's a clip of him talking about how Russia is great.
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I think he's clearly under attack or has been from the military security complex because
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of his original statement that he would normalize relations with Russia.
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That statement was a huge threat to the budget and the power of the military security complex.
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And that's where Russia gate and all the other false accusations that have been used
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against Trump to force him into a militarist position.
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Okay.
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That's something.
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You know, that, that is, that's actually a really good thought.
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I mean, it's dumb in the way that he's dumb, but it is, it is kind of an interesting thought
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whenever you, uh, take in how many hard right Russia hawks there are, wherein they're just
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like, we fucking loved the cold war national security advisor right now.
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Yeah.
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It seemed, it seemed awesome when we were fighting the cold war, all kinds of good shit
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happened, right?
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So let's just keep on doing that.
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It's way better than fighting these middle East wars.
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See, those cost a shit ton of money.
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This is another piece of the equation that we haven't really discussed nearly as much.
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And that is that Bolton is also a kind of anti-Russia hawk guy.
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Yeah.
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So like his introduction into the fold probably has to creep out Alex a little bit now.
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Like he, I don't think he was worried before cause he had Roger telling him he's an
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apparatchik and shit like that before.
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But now I think he's got to be worried about that.
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And he, he does say a couple of things about Bolton being like, fuck this guy, he's been
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in for a week and now we're buying.
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Right.
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Now the other take on that is Bolton is actually the janitor from the Looney Tunes cartoons.
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It's possible.
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If you recall.
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I think that's one of his early, early roles.
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That was back when his mustache was still a little darker gray.
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So the other thing that we need to take into account I think is important is that Paul
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Craig Roberts has written for Sputnik and Russia Insider since at least 2014.
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Uh huh.
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Uh, also, uh.
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It's tough to find a blogging gig, man.
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Since 2016, he's written for Alexander Dugan's think tanks website Katahon.
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So.
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Is, is, is Dugan hiring?
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I think he's got a full staff.
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I could use a regular gig.
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He's got a full staff and they all mysteriously pop up on Alex Jones' show.
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It's really strange.
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Giving narratives that all are mysteriously pro-Russia.
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It's a, it's a coincidence.
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So here's some of the articles that he's written for Sputnik.
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Will Putin realize that Russia holds all the cards?
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Washington is destroying the world.
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American government cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
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Washington is defaming Vladimir Putin.
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Putin calls out Washington.
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Privatization is the Atlanticist strategy to attack Russia.
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Just in that headline, we have the Atlantis versus Eurasia.
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You have the Eurasianism narrative coming in, even just in that headline.
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So he's buying into that divide.
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Just on, just based on the headlines, I would give him a 500 batting average for stuff that
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makes sense.
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Well, here's some more.
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Like, hey, Dan, you can't trust the American government to tell the truth.
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Right.
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But it's different.
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That's just a true thing.
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It's different when you're saying that on a podcast or like apropos of nothing, just
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making a statement.
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And when you're doing it on Sputnik, when you're writing an article, I'd say it on Sputnik.
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I'd do it right now.
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This podcast would be over if you did that.
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Why?
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Because I would be very opposed to that.
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I'd be very opposed if you did that on, uh, MSNBC, NPR.
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NPR?
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Well, I was trying to think of like, I feel like if I said you can't trust the American
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government on NPR, I would, well, one, not be allowed on NPR.
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I'm too loud.
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We get some ratings.
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Very loud.
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Yeah.
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And two, they'd be like, hmm, hmm.
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I think that there's a difference between, uh, places that are legit state-run, uh, media
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and places that aren't.
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I think there is.
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Although we're fastly approaching a time where it's not.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say so.
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Also, the only real state-run media is Fox News at this point.
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Like in America?
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Or maybe the only government that's run by media is ours.
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Because like NPR, beyond listener funding, has grants and endowments from the government
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and stuff like that.
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You know, there's like a voice of America and shit like that.
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Right.
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But the state clearly isn't using, uh, NPR as their mouthpiece.
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Nope.
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Uh, and it seems, it seems like there is a pretty solid Fox News control over the entire
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government.
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Yeah.
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When the president watches Fox and Friends and is like, those are some good policy ideas,
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we're not in a good place.
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So here's some more headlines that Paul Craig Roberts has written for Russian media.
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Steve Doocy's great.
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America has no unifying moral culture.
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It will lose a war with Russia.
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Will Russia wake up?
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The West seeks its destruction.
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Okay.
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So, it seems like he kind of is a Russia guy.
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Lot of apocalyptic people.
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Yeah.
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Everybody's really apocalyptic lately.
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Yeah.
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I can't imagine why.
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Yeah.
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Also, if you believe in the pre-Trib rapture, I think now's the time to let it go.
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I think, I think Trib is, uh, is kind of happening.
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I think that's in play.
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Why don't you go get a timeshare at one of Alex's resorts?
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I might.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, I've heard timeshares are great investments.
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Indeed.
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I've heard that on timeshare commercials.
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Um, the, uh, the thing that I'm taking away from this is that you've got Paul Craig Roberts
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coming in and telling Alex, you know, like more or less Russia is a good guy.
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They're the good actors here, which Alex already believes anyway.
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And they talk about, uh, they talk more or less just like, that's the, that's the driving
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point.
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And then when you look into his past, he's written for Russian publications, incredibly
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anti-American things for a very long time.
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And it's, it's weird.
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It's fucking weird.
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I mean, it's not, it's, it's definitely not a trend we have not seen on, uh, on Infowars.
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But it's, it's, it is, it is one of those things where somehow it is far more effective
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to have a guest on that just echoes the shit that you've already said.
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So you can echo it back to them.
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Right.
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It's kind of, it's kind of almost a peer pressure kind of situation.
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It's no coincidence that he's here now.
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Right.
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Oh no, of course.
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Oh no, of course.
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Of course.
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Call PCR.
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We need, we need, uh, we need some of that good old Russia didn't do it, uh, juju.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You can do that or you can call Shaggy.
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Those are, those are, uh...
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Russian Shaggy.
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It wasn't me.
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But I saw you with the cylinder.
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It wasn't me.
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Trying to try and do that in a Russian accent.
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I saw you guessing your own people.
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It wasn't me.
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It might count three people guess you.
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All right.
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All right.
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All right.
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I almost met him one night.
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Oh yeah?
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Yakov Smirnoff.
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You did?
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Our friend...
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What were you in, uh, uh...
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Missouri.
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Nashville?
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No, we were in Springfield.
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Our friend Tyler Snodgrass, uh, is friends with Yakov.
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Like, uh, he used to write jokes for him back when he, before he moved to Chicago.
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Why did I not know this about Tyler Snodgrass?
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Boy, I hope that's not, uh, private information.
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How did I not, how have we not...
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Yeah.
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He's talked about it.
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Okay, I'm sure.
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But, uh, we did a show at the Blue Room in Springfield, I believe.
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Uh huh.
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I believe that's the name of the place.
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And, uh, Yakov came out to the show because, uh, Tyler was in town.
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Because of course he did.
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And, uh, it was embarrassing, uh, just watching people want to come talk to Yakov Smirnoff.
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Nothing against him.
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He's a legend in the game.
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I guess.
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He's a legend.
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But at the same time, I was like, I don't want to fucking go, like,
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get in a crowd to talk to Yakov Smirnoff.
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I felt very weird about, like, just, you know, being a fanboy for Yakov.
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The only, well, are you a fanboy for Yakov?
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I respect him.
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I don't think, I don't like his comedy, but I respect him.
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Right.
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I, I would, uh, I would like to see you in a picture with Yakov Smirnoff.
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With his arm around your shoulder, giving you the thumbs up.
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If we could go back and do it all over again, I would like that to exist.
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But I'm glad I didn't betray my principles.
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Oh, sure.
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By going over and bothering him.
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Yeah, we could never do this show if you've got a Yakov Smirnoff connection.
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That's, that's Russia.
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That's pro-Russia all the way.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Where is he from?
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I don't think it's Russia.
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Uh, Yakov?
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Yeah.
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I think he is.
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You think he's Russian?
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I don't know.
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He certainly acts like it.
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It's interesting.
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Interesting.
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I never thought to look into it.
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I never cared.
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I want to say that he was from part of the former Soviet Union, but he wasn't actually
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from mainland Russia.
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The timeline matches up.
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That's entirely possible.
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Yeah.
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Um, so at this point in the show, he also brings in the man, the myth, Dr. Steve Pachanik.
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Ooh, where's Dr. Steve Landon?
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He's just like, he just wants Alex to shut up.
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Kind of, I think.
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All right.
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I like it.
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I think he's sort of like, I know you had to have your outburst, but like, just stop
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it.
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I think at this point, Steve is kind of sick of Alex's shit.
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Yeah.
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He kind of, I think he wants him back, uh, backing Trump because that's the easiest
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status quo for him to defend.
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Right.
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And it gives Steve a good footing because I think Steve realizes that without Alex Jones,
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his credibility goes away too because he's not on anyone else's show.
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No.
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What does he have then?
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A blog?
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Yeah.
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But what else is Steve like?
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How old is Steve?
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I would put him at 60 something.
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Yeah.
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So this is healthy 60.
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This is really Steve's last game.
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Like if at any point in time, if Info Wars dries up, he's gone.
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He's got 20 years ahead of him.
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No, no, no.
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But not, not in any kind of media form.
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No.
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If he's, if he's not involved with me, if with Info Wars and he can't roll with the
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punches on, if Alex changes the narrative, Steve isn't rolling with it.
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I think he could.
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Oh yeah.
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I think he could.
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Yeah.
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I think he could.
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But he would be the one he'd, he would work it in such a way that he's leading the horse.
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You know what I mean?
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Okay.
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Like he'd be able to manipulate Alex.
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Okay.
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Whatever Alex's next wrinkle will be probably Steve Pechenik, uh, mastermind it.
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Okay.
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I mean, we've seen this already.
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I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you.
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I'm just saying that I don't-
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We've seen Steve manipulate him so easily.
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Well, I mean, it's not hard.
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No.
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Um, the two of them kind of fight a little bit, uh, because it's just sort of a, like,
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you know, they're neither of, no one's in a good place post-Friday.
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Right.
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You know, I'm not, Alex isn't and Pechenik isn't either.
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It's gonna, it's gonna take a week before everybody just lets everything go.
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Before we get back to normal.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Pechenik isn't thrilled because it's an embarrassing thing to be associated with.
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Alex isn't in a good place because he realizes, can't get that off the internet.
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Nope.
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And, uh, boy, I really need to go back into the Trump camp.
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Oh boy, howdy.
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Yep.
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That's embarrassing.
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My bread just got less buttered.
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And so they just sort of, uh, talk about that.
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It's not a very interesting, uh, interview.
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But one thing that I think is incredibly interesting is that Steve-
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Has opened up a new finishing school.
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No, that would be fascinating.
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That would be fascinating.
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Uh, they're at every single one of Alex's resorts.
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Yep, yep.
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The Steve Pechenik School for Ladies.
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I assume you have to balance a book on your head.
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I think, I hear that's-
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There's cotillion classes.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Uh, creates debutantes.
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Right.
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Who call their mothers regularly?
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Um, no, that is not.
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Um, so, uh, what, uh, what we have is that, uh, Steve Pechenik is appearing with a painting
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behind him, uh, and the painting-
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Hung up?
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The painting has-
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How's our boy?
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Uh, I don't know, I watched him, uh, a while back and I'm, I don't, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Is he okay?
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Yeah, I'm, uh, oh, okay.
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I was, I was worrying, uh, I'm seeing people talking about the suffix tard being attached
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to words and how that's not cool.
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No, it's not cool.
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I agree with it, but I was worried that we had said something.
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No, I don't think-
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There was something in the chat.
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I got very scared that we had, uh, we had been assholes.
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But be that as it may, I gotta stop saying that.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Steve appears on, uh, with a, with a, with a painting behind him that is, uh,
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heavily breasted.
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There's titties.
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Okay.
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It is just a slightly pornographic image of a guy coming down, uh, some sort of figure
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grabbing a woman with her breasts out and it's incredibly weird and they don't bring
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it up for the first segment that Steve is on.
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I'm guessing Steve had to pose for a long time for them to make that portrait.
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Shit.
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Steve absolutely did this on purpose.
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He did this on purpose?
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He's broadcasting in front of a fucking painting that's square behind him with huge titties
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on it.
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He did that on purpose for sure.
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Absolutely.
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All right.
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Was he also broadcasting from an 80s carwash?
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No.
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Set up to save the rec center?
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Nope.
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This is his office.
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Okay.
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So Alex finally brings it up and I think it's invalidating on a number of levels.
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And then they're just always going after Trump and then there's nothing there.
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So now it's his lawyer.
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And now it's a, some other Republican paid a million and six to some woman who cares,
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man.
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It's crazy.
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It's corruption.
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But this art, let me analyze it.
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Last Friday's picnic was on.
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He doesn't normally have this grotesque deviant art up here.
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And I couldn't really analyze it.
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I didn't think to analyze it.
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I saw it was like military folks that looked like vampire bats, uh, you know, out, you
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know, doing something or maybe showing how the evil of war has corrupted the human soul.
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But this one, this one I'm going to describe it right now.
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That's a Lucifer figure, uh, up there at the top that you really can't see that has
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wings that are satellite, uh, solar panels showing it's like the artificial God in the
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sky that Lucifer wants to be this technocracy.
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You've got the U S military and people that are Patriots trying to lift up, uh, you know,
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the Mary, uh, earth goddess Christ figure image that's been struck down by Lucifer and
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this whole system, and it shows the struggle between these two, uh, archetypes there.
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Uh, so, so I would call this the fruit of Lucifer is the name of this art piece.
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So the reason that, oh my God, Alex, the art critic.
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Fuck.
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I want to go to a museum with Alex.
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Well, I want to go to a museum with Alex so bad.
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That would be great.
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He'd be very angry.
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Alex, you are invited to the MoMA in Chicago, please.
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Oh, that'd be great.
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We will talk about nothing but art.
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There's going to be a museum down in Austin.
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We can invite him to while we're there.
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Of course.
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Um, the, the Steve corrects him, uh, uh, tells him what the art is actually about.
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But, uh, the, the thing that I think is more important is that this, uh, presentation from
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Alex, cause you can even hear him say this satanic deviant art in a joking way.
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Right.
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Um, and then he explains what he sees there and he says the end of it, it's the, uh, the
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fruit of Satan.
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Um, you know, cause women.
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He doesn't care that Steve Puchenik has weird art, but that's what he screams about all
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the time with John Podesta.
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That he has weird art.
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Right.
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But that means some sort of, Oh, some he's sick in the head.
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He's got this deviant art all around.
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What is deviant art?
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It's anything that Alex thinks is weird.
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I know it when I see it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's like porno.
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Yeah.
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Uh, but like this is key.
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I think Steve Puchenik broadcasted in front of that painting.
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Just to fuck with Alex's head.
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Yeah.
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Or not to fuck with his head, but to like, that ruins his argument about, uh, John Podesta.
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That whole thing goes away.
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Puchenik does not care about Podesta.
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I think he's subtly trying to undercut a bunch of, uh, and maybe this is fantasy booking
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on my part.
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Yeah.
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This is, this is you acting as Alex, the art critic.
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But his behavior, like Steve Puchenik very clearly intentionally broadcasted in front
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of that picture.
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Cause he broadcasts in front of a bunch of different things.
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Right.
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Like that one day that he broadcast in front of a flow chart of hip hop artists, you know,
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like he broadcasts in front of things.
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That's true.
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It's not like it does tend to have a little bit of fun.
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It's not like a riddle, but he has a like, Oh, I'm going to broadcast from here with
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this behind me today.
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He's doing that.
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I think here's my theory.
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And again, I have nothing to back this up.
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I think the next six months, what we're going to see out of Steve Puchenik is one by one
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providing evidence why everything Alex Jones has stood for has been bullshit.
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Okay.
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But you have to pay attention.
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Every single thing.
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Puchenik is all about Easter eggs?
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Exactly.
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That's what he's doing?
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Yeah.
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Next episode, he's going to be eating Greek yogurt.
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That would be fantastic.
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That's what I think is happening.
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It's probably not.
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And I'm just bored sitting here in like a, the satellite of love, basically watching
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this shit.
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Very nice.
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I like to believe.
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I like to believe that Steve Puchenik is doing something interesting.
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He's probably not.
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Now, looking at this sculpture, we can see that this woman has large breasts, but no
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arms.
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I assume that's a, that's a God removing the arms of women for having breasts.
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What if Steve Puchenik, a couple episodes from now has, like, L'origine de Monde behind
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him.
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That, that big, the painting of a world coming out of a pussy.
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Yeah.
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Or what if he has that skull covered in semen?
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Oh man.
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If he was just holding it the whole time, if he had turned it into a chalice, it was
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just flavor flaving it the whole time.
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Or.
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Love it.
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Or.
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Yeah.
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It's just behind him and he never mentions it.
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That would be pretty amazing.
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There's a weird sheen.
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So, you know, there's something fresh on top of it.
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Like a Charlie Sheen?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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No, I was talking about the light reflecting off of it in a very evocative way.
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So this next clip deals with a little bit of a difference.
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Like, we're in this no man's land of, I love hate Trump.
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You know, there's a Schrodinger's Trump going on.
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In this clip, Alex is sort of expressing that Trump is good.
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I said, Trump is good because the globalists legitimately hate him.
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It's not a fake.
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It's not a faint.
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It's not a game.
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It's not a spoken mares.
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And he's not perfect.
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And I don't expect him to get everything done.
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That's right.
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But he knows all about Syria.
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He knows all about the rebels being sent in by the globalists.
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He knows.
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He told McMaster, no, we're not toppling Assad.
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Assad's already agreed to leave.
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He wants to, he just grew up in England.
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He doesn't want to be there.
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He said, stabilize and have elections.
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I'm gone.
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They've all, they've almost killed him.
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Happens all the time with dictators.
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They've had bombs go off within hundreds of yards of him.
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Last time I read like over 50 times.
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That sounds like someone bragging about their dad telling a not true story.
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Yeah.
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My dad could be a pure dad.
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growing up in London once out of there?
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No.
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So it's just incredible.
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It is.
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We're being sabotaged.
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And you know, when I talk about Hillary and people, here's the thing.
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Listen, I don't know exactly what's going on.
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You could just stop there.
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Yeah, that would be a great, that'd be a great sentence to end with a period.
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And now is the time for Larry Nichols to come back.
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He's not on the show, but now is the time.
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You gotta bring back Larry Nix.
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Because this narrative is weak.
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He needs to get away from it.
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All of this, he needs to do what all of the right wing media does and be like,
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nah, if, if things don't look good, Hey, what else have we not said about Hillary?
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Yeah.
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Let's pretend like that's, that's exactly what Fox news did for, uh, Hannity, where
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they were like, Oh, it appears that Hannity was mentioned in, uh, the, uh, Cohen.
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What else is going on?
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What else is in the news?
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How are you guys feeling about?
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Hey, but the Hillary jump is what they need to do.
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And who better than Mr.
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Black mailing Congress himself.
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Uh,
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how's that going?
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Boy, he has not been on since we did that episode.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I didn't even realize that until the other day.
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That is fantastic.
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He has not been on Alex Jones's show to the best of my knowledge.
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And I listen every day.
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I'm sure there is a coincidence of some sort.
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Right.
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Cause he's speaking ill.
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I will be God damned if that isn't hilarious.
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It does feel like there might be a connection between that.
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Like, Oh, Hey, you, you did commit a felony on air and no one's listening.
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I would know what's listening to Dan and Jordan, but they did point it out.
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I would prefer it if it was, was it our episode or was it his episode?
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What do you mean?
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Uh, the last time Larry Nichols was both.
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We put our episode out like right after he had blackmailed Congress.
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Did we?
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Yeah.
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He was that close.
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Yeah.
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I thought we took a while.
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I thought it was like a few weeks.
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No, no.
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It was like, right.
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That was a present day thing.
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Oh, that's true.
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Yeah, you're right.
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That's fantastic.
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Oh, did we torpedo Larry Nichols info wars career?
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That would, that would go on my resume immediately.
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Step to us.
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We put Larry Nichols on the bench.
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Dude.
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Now this is a whole new world for us.
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Let's get the contact info for all of these fucks.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh, let's call Steve.
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Let's call Steve Pacino.
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Oh no, I do.
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I do know what you're saying.
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I didn't realize that you were asking the episode where we talked to Larry Nichols.
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Right.
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The episode that we brought up that he had black Congress.
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Right.
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Those were about a week apart.
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Okay.
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But yes.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay.
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I apologize.
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I did not understand what you mean.
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Um, yeah, we do need to call these fools.
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Oh man, we could destroy info wars.
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Oh shit.
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It turns out we have more power than we've ever imagined, Dan.
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Yeah, yeah.
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For sure.
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If we can torpedo a guy like Larry Nichols career, I mean, that was ascending.
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Again.
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He was at the height.
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Again, not necessarily torpedoing, but we put them on the bench.
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Get out of here with you.
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Oh man.
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The moment he comes back on, if we're going to call him the next day, right?
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Well, I mean the next, next time he's on, it's gotta be about how like, nah, the caliphate
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is still being built.
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Yeah, of course.
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I know it's been a year and a half and nothing has happened.
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Now I know that Linda Bloodworth Thomas is a witch.
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She is a witch.
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All right, Larry.
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Witch.
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Witches.
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So in this next clip, uh, the, uh, you know, Trump is good.
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Globalists are bad.
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Assad wants to go to London.
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I mean, I think there's a really easy way for this to play out.
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Assad could say anything like that.
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Yeah.
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Assad could just go to London.
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Yeah.
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He could, uh...
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Um, actually, no, he fucking couldn't, Dan.
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There's no way that London, there's no way that the UK is letting Assad in.
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Just like, oh, your passport is fine.
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Stamp.
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Come on in.
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No, no, no, no.
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But if this shit is true, there's a way to negotiate all of the stuff that like,
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Oh, in like a week.
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Yeah.
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All of this would be very easy to work out for him.
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Absolutely.
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He's just like, look, I've just been fighting these bad guys this whole time.
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I don't want to be a dictator.
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I'm in a bad situation.
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I want to get out of it.
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Which is not London.
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He could get asylum in some other country.
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He could just flee and just be like, look, this has gotten out of control.
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I don't want to be a part of it anymore.
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Or he could, uh, uh, I don't know.
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There's a whole lot of other actions he could take.
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Right.
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Um, and that's the whole thing about this, uh, this stupid idea of the, like the Russians,
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Assad and our government behind, or our military behind our government's back made this deal.
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Putin has no reason not to say that that happened.
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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At this point, at this point, if he's already saying the United States is, uh, they don't
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follow through with their, uh, you know, their word and stuff like that, you're already halfway
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there.
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Just come out and validate Alex's argument.
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That'd be fun.
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Why not?
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I mean, I wouldn't believe him, but if he, that would be hilarious.
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If Putin just came out and was like, dude, we negotiated the secret deal behind the government's
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back with the American military to get rid of Assad.
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And now they're backing out.
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That would be the best news day ever.
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And if it's true, you know, he has evidence.
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Oh yeah.
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He's a KGB officer.
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He doesn't enter into a tripartite agreement behind the president of a country's back without
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some sort of corroborating evidence.
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There's a recording of everything that Trump has ever said to Putin.
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No, no, no.
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Cause this isn't Trump.
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This is the heroes in our military.
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Trump is just following through with it.
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Fine.
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There's a recording of everything, everything that Stalin has ever said to anyone, except
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for of course the oligarchs with whom he would prefer, uh, recordings not exist.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So in this next clip we learn about one of the reasons that the globalists are really
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bad.
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I know the globalist push depopulation and I know they're doing all sorts of behind the
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scenes and testing things on us, trying to find cures for diseases for themselves.
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The best way to do that is hit people with stuff that's lethal.
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And then you find a very small percentage that are resistant.
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But one quick way to research just one small faction of that or one factor point is immortal
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cell lines, Lazarus genes, things like that, which are real.
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Talking about the stand?
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The archetype's zombies, but it's, it's not at that level, but, but it is once you can
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get it to building blocks, there are cells that are zombies.
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Which ones?
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They don't need oxygen.
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They don't need anything.
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You have to kill them with a blowtorch.
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Cells?
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They discovered them in the 1940s with a black lady in one week.
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They can't kill the cells.
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They're still alive today.
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You put them on fresh flesh.
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They start replicating.
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So the globalists are all obsessed with this while we're watching football and basketball
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and I get it.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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It's that boy.
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I'll tell you what, that's fun.
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They're zombie cells, buddy.
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Is he referencing, uh, the, uh, the one woman's genetic, uh, material that was, uh...
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Henrietta Lacks.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She died of cancer on October 4th, 1951.
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Right.
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And she had a very interesting mutation that made her cells immortal.
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By that, it does not mean that there's some sort of immortality that can be granted by
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them.
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When you talk about cellular immortality, what that means is that it will constantly
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split.
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It will always split more.
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As opposed to a lot of cells, they have this thing called, uh, senescence, which is a termination
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point of their splitting.
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They'll just keep splitting to a point and that's when they, they, uh, they can no longer
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go through, uh, meiosis.
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I believe it's also an evanescent cover band.
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Or mitosis, I believe.
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Yeah.
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Not because it's not a sexual, uh, cell.
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It's not like a sperm or whatever.
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But, uh, so yeah, I mean, Alex is talking about a kind of real thing, but at the same
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time he's really stupid about it.
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Explain to me, so, so they can't be killed except for with a blowtorch?
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Well, that's probably just from the living dead.
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I was gonna say, what do you mean?
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There's so many other things that replicate a blowtorch.
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Yeah.
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Why a blowtorch specifically?
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Well, I don't, I don't know.
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I think that's just his fantasy, uh, you know, coming through.
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The, the thing is that these cells are like, uh, because they don't, uh, and like they
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don't stop dividing or they, uh, they can consistently, uh, be divided.
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Uh, they're perfect for research.
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Yeah, of course.
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Uh, and so, uh, hey, spoiler alert.
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They were why Jonas Salk was able to make the polio vaccine.
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Right.
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Uh, you know, there's things like that from the fact that they took them and hid them
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without ever acknowledging that they were taken from her or giving her any kind of,
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uh, or estate or anything like that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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That, that is a big issue there.
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No, it is.
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It is.
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But also, um, they do make a decent, uh, I don't know if it's decent.
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I don't really, I don't really understand, uh, the rights issues enough.
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They took them after she was dead and it was like discarded tissue.
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And so there is an argument that has been made by these researchers and I believe it's
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held up in court that you don't have, uh, necessarily possession rights after your death
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of discarded material.
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And it came from a tumor that would have been removed from her.
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Yeah.
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That sort of thing.
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So it's, it's really, it's murky territory that I don't know how to unpack.
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I don't like it, but I also get it.
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All I understand from that is, uh, weird.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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And Jonas Salk...
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All of the, all of the elements to that are like, huh.
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For Alex's stupid bullshit about like, uh, they just want to create cures for themselves,
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not for us.
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Do you have polio, asshole?
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He actually does.
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No, he doesn't.
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Yeah, he does.
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You think he does the show and then just immediately runs to an iron lung?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Um, he's been in a wheelchair for six years.
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People don't know that.
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I've seen him stand up.
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Well, people saw FDR stand up too, Dan.
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That's a fair point.
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Yeah.
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That's a fair, fair, fair point.
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Is it a fair point?
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Nope.
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That's why I said it three times.
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Um, like witches?
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Witches.
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Witches.
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The reality of these like immortal cells and the Lazarus cells and stuff like that are
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really interesting because there are, there are a couple of strains of them that they've
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been able to find, but they're literally nothing like Alex's.
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Yeah, because the telomeres don't break down or whatever it is along those lines.
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It's just another, um, uh, brainless cow tanks kind of like, he relies on it.
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I want brainless cow tanks now.
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He relies on the fact that his audience is not conversant in science at all and doesn't
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understand.
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Because they are absolutely not.
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No.
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And to a certain extent, I mean, maybe we're conversant, but not, not smart about it.
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We're the type of people who are conversant in science in so far as we know just enough
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to get ourselves to say something stupid about it.
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You know?
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If you gave me a week, I could explain this fully, but I don't care too.
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We could research it and understand what we were researching to a point, but there would
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be no reason for us to explain it.
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No.
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So on Friday, Alex Jones lost his mind and screamed about ISIS being up Trump's dirty
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asshole.
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Yeah.
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Does he address that?
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He doesn't.
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We covered that, but we failed to cover one thing.
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I believe, I don't think we talked about it, that Art Bell passed away.
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Yes, Art Bell did pass away.
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The, uh, the OG from Coast to Coast AM.
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Right.
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Uh, complete weirdo.
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Uh, crazy dude.
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Uh, but also made one of the most interesting radio shows, uh, ever to exist.
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I know you don't know much about Coast to Coast AM, but it was a big part of my love
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of AM talk radio growing up.
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Actually, it was on FM in Columbia, but I loved the format of talk radio, and one of
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the reasons was because of Coast to Coast AM.
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Now, granted-
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See, I've always been more of a Joe Frank weirdo kind of guy.
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What does that mean?
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You don't know who Joe Frank is?
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No.
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He did, uh, weirdo monologues.
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Nah, I'm not into it.
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He was very fascinated.
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Not into it.
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Check out Joe Frank.
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You would be shocked by it.
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See, what I liked about Coast to Coast AM was it had this brilliant, uh, uh, eh, I don't
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know if it's brilliant, but it was a great structure wherein Art Bell or George Norie
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would talk about something really crazy and stupid.
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Often aliens, ghosts, that sort of shit.
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Right.
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Sometimes conspiracy stuff, and then, uh, they'd just take calls, and the callers would
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be as crazy, but they'd just be like, yep, you bet, you bet, you bet, that kind of thing,
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and it was this great-
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They were Carrie Callahan without the antisemitism.
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Yeah, not overt anyway.
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I'm not sure, I'm not sure, because, I mean, I hate George Norie's politics, and he's
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good friends with Alex Jones.
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He's probably an antisemite.
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Um, but I am sad that he's dead in as much as it's the passing of, like, a radio legend.
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Uh huh.
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Now, granted, when we did that episode about, um, uh, that Project Camelot episode about
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Courtney Brown, the remote viewer-
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Yes!
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Art Bell was hosting when, uh, he, uh, he allowed Courtney Brown to come on and precipitate
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the events that would lead to the, uh, the Heaven's Gate cult killing themselves.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not 9-11.
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Oh, not 9-11?
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Okay, never mind.
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Um, and so, like, he had some fucking problems.
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Yeah.
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He would, there are problems, but he is, he was a great broadcaster, and rest in peace,
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Art Bell.
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Wait a second, Courtney Brown precipitated the, uh, uh, Heaven's Gate?
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We did a whole episode about that.
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I know, but I really don't understand that still.
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Courtney Brown remote viewed an object that was trailing the Hale-Bopp comet, and that's
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where that entire narrative came from.
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That's right, because that, because that, no, I forgot that, uh, that was whenever What's
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His Face's wife died, and then he got all weird about it.
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The Heaven's Gate cult.
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Marshall Applewhite?
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Yeah.
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That wasn't his wife, that was his cult partner.
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All right, fine.
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But that was...
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Whatever.
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His common-law wife.
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Anyways, I'm sorry, I'm trying, I apologize to, uh, for derailing that.
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So, um, Art Bell, rest in peace, also Harry Anderson died today, we miss him.
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Yeah.
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Uh, glad we still got Bull.
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Yeah.
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Wait, is Bull dead?
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I was really sorry that Harry and the Hendersons died too.
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Come on.
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Was that it?
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I'm not making a joke here, I did love him.
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I'm not making a joke here, I did love Harry Anderson when I was younger, I loved Night
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Court, it was a great show.
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Wait, Harry Anderson died?
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Yeah, he died today.
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From Night Court?
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Yeah, very sad.
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Really?
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The judge.
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He wasn't that old though, right?
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Sixty-something.
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Yeah.
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I don't know, I didn't look too deeply into it, but the article I read said no foul play
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was suspected, probably a heart attack or something like that.
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Oh, man.
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The Night Court reunion on, uh, what was it, 30 Rock or was it News Radio?
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No, it wasn't on News Radio.
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It wasn't on News Radio, it was 30 Rock, right?
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Must have been.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, this has all just been a way of dancing around that Alex Jones brings up Art
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Bell in this next clip.
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Art Bell was one of the slickest best talk show hosts when it came to just really being
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so focused and so professional, he was just a real talent, one of the greatest ever.
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And I even saw the media try to time me to him in some way to, like, just get my name
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in the news and attack him for us.
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I was never on Art Bell's show.
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This is not the media.
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You know who tweeted about this?
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Alex's ex-wife, Kelly.
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Kelly tweeted that Alex got his start or one of his early pushes was from Art Bell.
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Alex is literally responding to her tweet by pretending that she's the media.
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No one in the media reported that.
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I've not seen any articles about that.
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I've literally only seen her tweet about that.
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So Alex, whenever he wants to lash out at things that Kelly is saying publicly about
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him, he just says it's the media.
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Look at the media saying I was on Art Bell.
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Weird.
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I believe he actually probably wasn't on Art Bell because the timeline doesn't quite match
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up.
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He was on Coast to Coast all the not all the time, but he was on a bunch with George Norey.
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Did he call Kelly the media in open court?
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No, but he called her the media the other day when that's true, when you say the media
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is reporting that I was on Sinclair Station and that was just Kelly again.
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And I mean, we see it throughout the rest of this clip.
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For whatever reason, Art Bell didn't like me.
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But you know what?
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I like Art Bell.
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Art Bell, a mysterious narrator of the American nightscape, is dead at 72.
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And I'll cover the other guy at the next segment, but.
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See, if anything's in the news, the mainstream media attaches it like Sinclair which caught
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up in fake news.
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Oh, wow.
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Regional news does that.
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Jones worked for Sinclair.
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Didn't.
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Ha.
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Art Bell dies.
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Tie me to it.
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Make it somehow.
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I mean, it's like and it's not that it hurts me.
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It actually makes the show bigger for us.
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OK, you're just talking about like your your your feud with your wife or ex-wife.
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This makes me very uncomfortable that I know what he's talking about.
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I can see through this.
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This is not the media.
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These are specifically things that she has tweeted and he's pretending it's the media.
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It's very, very fucked up what he's doing on air.
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Like, he's too much of a coward to just say, my wife, my ex-wife is saying stuff and it's
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not true.
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Here's the truth, because it does seem like it is the truth that Art Bell wouldn't have
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him on his show.
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Of course not.
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Because he knows, like, I for whatever reason, every time somebody doesn't like him, he's
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probably like, ah, for whatever reason, they think I'm a piece of shit.
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I can't imagine why.
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Well, let him have it.
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You know, that's that's my position on that.
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In this episode, we've seen Alex have kind of a weird back and forth with Trump.
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You know, like, I'm still supporting him.
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He is probably corrupted or whatever.
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In this next clip, Alex says something that is a little bit I mean, it's slightly familiar
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to us, but at the same time, it's like, if you think he's corrupted, you shouldn't want
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him to do this.
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If Trump doesn't move with the military and I never want this, we're already under a global
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coup, if he doesn't move to just remove all those people and have the indictments and
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have the tribunals, then there's there's no hope.
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And because we are overrun by a foreign globalist power, I appreciate your call.
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And I'm not calling for that at this point.
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You sound like you are sound a lot.
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If he doesn't do this, well, I mean, we're all going to die.
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I'm not calling for him to do this.
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But if he doesn't, we're all going to die.
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I mean, it's just it's like no big deal if he doesn't, except we're all going to die.
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So that's tough.
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I'm not calling for it.
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That's a tough, weird line that he would never call for it.
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That's a very, very tough, weird line.
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The other thing.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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So Trump Trump orders a military strike and then Alex loses his fucking mind.
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And then he's like, well, I mean, obviously, if he doesn't agree with what the military
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wants to do.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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He wants them.
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He wants Trump to use the military to take out Obama, Clinton.
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Like he wants he wants him to use them the military to take out his perceived enemies.
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So his problem is he's not he's just not Trump just didn't utilize the military in the correct
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direction.
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He didn't use it for an internal coup and power grab.
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OK.
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Instead, he used it in a way that might piss off my good friends in Russia.
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Ah, and that's what pisses him off.
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OK, all right.
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That's not good.
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Do you know, generally speaking, when a an elected leader decides that it's a good idea
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to use the military to remove his enemies?
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Usually now there's a word for that.
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I'm I am only taking literally every example of this occurring in the entirety of human
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history as my reference point.
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But it doesn't go well for everybody.
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I would say that I can think of zero examples of like, hey, everything calm down.
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So, yeah, that's what we needed.
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Well, Julius Caesar did it and everything worked out fine.
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Sure.
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Let's see.
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Alex has called Trump modern day Caesar.
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He said he's our Caesar.
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Chavez did it.
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Everything worked out fine.
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Great.
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Brazilian government did it for a long time.
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Everything worked out fine.
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Countless African countries.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, no, no.
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They worked out great.
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Countless times.
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I mean, just even throughout Europe.
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And I mean, let's just talk about where the word dynasty originated.
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Sure.
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Which is when women throw glasses of wine at each other.
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The more important thing is, yes, all of that is just QAnon shit.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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The idea that Trump is going to have military tribunals.
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There's sealed indictments on all of these people already.
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All this stuff.
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It's all...
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I mean, we saw this play out with all those other weirdos on Twitter about, like, at the
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beginning of the Mueller investigation, we saw all those bogus ass accounts coming out
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and saying, like, there is 170 sealed indictments.
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It's the same game being played just by the other side.
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Right.
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The other side, ostensibly, but they're not really on any other side.
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Yeah, the QAnon people are on the side of chaos.
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Well, or nonsense, even.
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It's not even chaos, because it's not.
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It's tricksterism.
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Yeah.
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It's an interesting performance.
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They are on the side of Loki.
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It's possibly really interesting performance art, but it's doing a lot of damage.
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Right.
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Tends to happen from time to time.
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So he wants the military to get involved and get some tribunals going, because he's heard
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people talk about that online.
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Jerome Corsi keeps saying that's what's going to happen.
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Has a tribunal ever been a good thing?
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Have you ever heard of, oh, that tribunal really worked things out for us?
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I was thinking of Desmond Tutu, but that was a commission.
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Yeah.
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That was a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
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Right.
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I don't know about a tribunal.
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I'm not saying that some sort of larger democratic body is more effective or comes to better
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outcomes.
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You're totally wrong.
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Yeah.
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The show Survivor.
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Is there a tribunal?
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I thought that's what they called it.
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Whenever they go to tribal council, they go to the...
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I thought a tribunal just meant three.
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No, no, no.
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That's tri partite negotiation.
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So just tribunal means...
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Yeah, whole tribe.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Somehow that is a massive blind spot in my...
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Did you think that was going to be a military tribunal?
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It's just three people.
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For real?
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Massive blind spot in my entire history.
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I think I've always just heard the prefix tri and was like, well, I can stop there.
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There's a B after it.
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Yeah, don't like that.
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Don't like that B.
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Yeah.
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So we have one more clip left.
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I prefer triunals.
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Alex expresses that Trump is probably still good, but he's been flipped, which doesn't
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work just from a logic standpoint.
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And then he says stuff that makes me uncomfortable.
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I'll be honest.
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I'm mad at the American people, but I know they were born into all the Hollywood stuff
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and stuff like that, but really bad stuff's going on on the planet.
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This country has been so screwed over and our success that we've got left is so paper.
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And to see Trump now getting sucked into things that fundamentally he was against when just
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a week before Cohen got raided, he was against it shows me they flipped it.
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We'll see if other stuff follows, but I'm really worried because they're not going to
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even let him limp along.
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They want to destroy a nationalist.
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They want to send a message and there's nationalism and stuff popping up all over the world.
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That's the big positive.
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They want to send a message and I think they're going to try to trick the president down and
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just like Hillary and all them said, once they get him out, they're going to really
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go target everybody.
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And there's only so much people can take.
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There's only so much people can take.
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I mean, I'm not afraid of the globalists.
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I'm afraid of my response and I'm not saying that to act tough, but we built in for us
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to counter these people.
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And let me tell you something, there's only so much people are going to take.
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So that seems like I'm calling for open rebellion.
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There's, I mean, it's so close.
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Open rebellion against who?
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Also fucking at this fucking time now, now, two years into this fucking bullshit, how
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can you possibly believe that Trump has any beliefs whatsoever other than Trump is great?
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I like Trump.
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Trump does not even have thoughts anymore.
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It's just, hey, that guy said the same thing that I'm thinking, which is that Trump is
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great.
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I love Trump.
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What kind of fucking mental gymnastics does it take to imagine that that fucking guy has
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a belief system?
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Why?
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Why would you believe that?
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How could you believe that?
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The entire history of his life would decry that concept.
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Roger is very smooth.
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All right.
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He is pretty smooth.
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You got to understand.
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He is pretty smooth.
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Alex really wants his approval.
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I mean, think about it.
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Daddy issues.
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Daddy issues.
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Think about it.
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Look at this.
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Look at this whole thing.
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Like you got at the beginning of his presidency, he gets rid of the TPP.
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Now already, he's like, we should probably go back on that.
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So that goes away.
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It makes my rich friends happy and my rich friends, I want them to think I'm cool.
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Alex is like, hey, he's an anti-globalist.
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Six months ago, he said, I'm a globalist and a nationalist, but I'm a globalist.
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Yeah, but he was doing it because he's a nationalist globalist.
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Alex keeps pretending that he's taking out pedophile networks, but there's no evidence
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of it.
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And the stuff that we've gone over in the past is clearly the sort of annual sting operations
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that happen that have existed for years around the month, the Slavery and Human Trafficking
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Awareness Month.
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Yeah.
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Like it's not, it's opportunistic.
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Which is such a weird concept.
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I think you should focus on that every month.
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Yeah, I know, right?
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Like why are we, hey, it's February, so we're going to solve human trafficking this month
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and then let it go for the, it's weird.
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It's a weird, weird, weird thing.
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Right, but every single one of his arguments is dismantled just by time existing.
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Yeah.
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And like you go on long enough and Trump himself will invalidate those things.
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Of course.
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And now we have-
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That's the only thing he believes in.
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And now we have this situation where Cohen's, his lawyer's office has been raided and Alex
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even himself is like, fuck, they probably got a lot on him.
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Oh yeah.
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Like he even is like, oh shit.
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Well, he even said, I mean, yeah, he paid off seven or eight women.
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Sure.
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He's mobbed up.
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You can't run casinos without being mobbed up.
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Probably done a shit ton of money laundering.
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Well, no, no, no.
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You're missing the point.
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You're missing the point.
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So when we did that September, when we started in September of 2015 or August of 2015, we
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did the investigation and we found that the beginning of Alex Jones's narrative with Trump,
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the beginning of his ride with him was this guy owns casinos.
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He's mobbed up.
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He is a front man for a consortium on the East coast.
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If your name is Genovese, you go to prison.
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If it's Trump, you don't.
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Those sorts of things.
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Right.
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Like all of that, he's never not believed that.
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This whole time, he knew that.
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Yeah.
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He pretended that wasn't true because it went counter to all of his other narratives.
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Right.
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But the entire time he's known that was true.
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And the fact that Cohen got his, uh, his office rated and there's obviously proof that's going
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to come out of a lot of this stuff.
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And Alex is scared about that.
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He knows like, now I cannot pretend that I didn't know that I have to be like, I did
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know that, but who cares?
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It's no big deal.
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It is a big deal.
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It's a very big deal.
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Well, I mean, sure, some bad Republican backer paid 1.6 million to somebody, but who cares?
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Who cares?
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Sure.
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$130,000.
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Who cares?
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That's not even that much money.
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Who cares?
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There is a moment, I think it was on Sunday's show where he's like, uh, look, they went
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after Clinton because of the sex, uh, it related things because that was relevant.
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But now this, and as he's saying the sentence, he can't get it out.
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Yeah.
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He can't get it out.
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He can't explain why this is somehow like, uh, shit.
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I, I just, I just don't understand why he didn't take the game.
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Like he had the opportunity.
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And not only that, because he clearly knows that some shit is going to come out and the
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writing is on the fucking wall.
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Well, here's why.
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Like imagine Alex coming out.
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I can't believe you don't get this already.
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No, I get it. But the point is like, if he came out now, then he's out in front and he
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gets to claim even more credibility because the Fox News fucks are going to get fucked
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over.
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Like they've been carrying water so hard for Trump and Hannity is fucking like, they're
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all going to fucking be, be, but no, nothing's going to happen.
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They're all going to be fine.
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Fuck.
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This whole system is fucked.
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Here, I want to move to the woods here.
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Well, I always do, but who's got a, who's got a bunker?
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Here's what you don't aren't taking into account.
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Whether it's, um, just forgetting about it or, or negligence or whatever, Russia's not
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done with Trump yet.
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Yeah.
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And whatever, whatever situation exists between those entities, I have no fucking idea.
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And I ever, I think there were a lot of people who were probably making a much bigger deal
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out of, uh, the, the Russia Trump connection that may or may not have happened.
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Connection that may or may not exist.
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Right.
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And we talked about this pre-show and I think it's really important that we bring this up
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on the show proper.
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We are very convinced.
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We're very clear that Alex Jones, whether it's because of, you know, some sort of compromising
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material, whether it's money, who knows?
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It's one of those things.
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Or just fanboys.
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Right.
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Or he was compromised by flattery, any of those things.
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He has some sort of allegiance to Russia that pre, uh, it, it, it's, it's more important
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to him than other things.
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Yes.
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And it predates Trump.
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Yes, it does.
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We, which we clearly discovered on our 2015 stuff and I'm discovering from even further
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back.
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Right.
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But what, the reason that he can waffle in all this is the same reason that Trump can
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say, I'm not going to enforce these sanctions on Russia.
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Right.
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It's that, that is what's important to Alex and whether it's because he is an intellectual
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purist and he actually believes that they're a nationalist country and, uh, that they're
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the, uh, hope of ending globalism or whatever.
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Or if he knows that's bullshit and he knows that he's, um, selling a line, that's what's
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going on.
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Yeah.
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That's why he can go back on it and be like, look, we need a Trump, maybe Trump might be
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flipping to the deep state, but we gotta, we gotta set this out because there's still,
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there's still, there's still blood to be taken from this stone as it were, you know, for
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all the parties involved.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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They have to, they have to see some sort of writing on the wall.
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There's gotta be, look, all of the shit that's come out.
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There's gotta be some sort of awareness that this is going to crash.
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Now, I suppose the only, the only thing that I would say, if, if you're Russia and you
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have this investment going on, regardless of whether or not, and like you said, we talked
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about this pre-show, regardless of whether or not Trump is aware of any collusion, collusion
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happened.
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But whether it's a propaganda collusion or a collusion collusion is an open question.
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Yeah.
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It wasn't, it's not like, I'm not necessarily saying that they all got into a room together
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and said, we're going to get Trump elected.
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Right.
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It's more just perhaps just coinciding interests happening simultaneously.
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That's, that's possible.
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But it's, it's like the only result of this is that Trump goes down and the only reason
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that Russia would still be involved is because they think Trump is going to take America
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down with him.
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Sure.
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That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now.
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And boy, that gamble is looking good.
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It's looking real good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's a good point.
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Anyway, we should go to the woods.
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But before we do, check out our website, knowledgefight.com.
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We're on Twitter.
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You can follow us there.
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Yep.
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What's our handle?
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What if you went to Facebook?
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You can find us there.
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We have a page and also a group.
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Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
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You can absolutely subscribe to us on iTunes.
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You can.
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Yeah.
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This has been a tough for me.
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It was tough to summon the energy to do this, but I'm glad we did.
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I know.
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You did great.
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I'm glad we made it through.
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You're having some depression issues, which...
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I'm a little bummed out.
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Yeah.
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I recognize and hope...
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It'll be fine.
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I just need a good night's sleep.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna go get a slice of pizza after the show and maybe play a little Zelda and try
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and get my head right.
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That's a good idea.
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All of those things are great ideas.
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They are great.
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Great.
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I feel like I've named the last two people or so.
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I think it's your turn to end the show.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna have to go with the word tribunal.
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Go fuck yourself.
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That's not fair.
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That's petty.
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I'm just mad because somehow that has existed as a blind spot for...
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The word guy.
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I love words.
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I'm a literature major and somehow the word tribunal has escaped my knowledge.
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That's infuriating to me.
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I recognize that...
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I am going to be pissed off for weeks because of this.
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I have to honor your wishes, but I do this under protest.
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All right.
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All right.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
