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Alex Jones (00:00:00.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

CNN Reporter (00:00:04.000)

Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

Dan (00:00:07.000)

Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alexander Emmerich. Joe

Jordan (00:00:15.000)

indeed There is however a twist that makes it an interesting thing to listen to it is true that otherwise it would just be two assholes talking about lunatic

Dan (00:00:24.000)

let's not fuck around in the intro we got a lot.

Jordan (00:00:27.000)

Okay, Fight Fight Fight.

Dan (00:00:28.000)

I know a lot about Alex Jones. You don't know.

Jordan (00:00:30.000)

I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Let me ask you a question. What what did you bring for us right now?

Dan (00:00:35.000)

It's so hot in the shy out there. You know in Chicago and Shy Town city of broad shoulders.

Jordan (00:00:41.000)

Now you're taking your time. God dammit. The SEC huge hypocrite.

Dan (00:00:46.000)

It's so hot out. I thought we just needed something nice and crisp and refreshing. So I got us ice mountain Sparkling Raspberry lime. It's it's still a novelty beverage.

Jordan (00:00:57.000)

It's like homeopathic flavoring. Like there's one part per billion of actual fruit flavors. Maybe.

Dan (00:01:04.000)

Last year was it was the year of the fizzy beverage the fizzy water for me. Oh, yeah. And this these isobella Kruise a shirt that's a little pedestrian but there's a

Jordan (00:01:16.000)

you're an elitist for for sparkling flavors. You know, everyone's

Dan (00:01:19.000)

there's all these trendy assholes. Like, oh, yeah,

Jordan (00:01:23.000)

I was gonna say you're getting in there.

Dan (00:01:24.000)

The line of ice mountain sparkling waters are really good. They have a nice orange. They have a black cherry. I think the raspberry line was my favorite of them.

Jordan (00:01:32.000)

Anyway, Jordan, that some solid buzz marketing you just did. Some

Dan (00:01:36.000)

of my other favorite things are our new donators. I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator What's up up there, Stephanie?

Alex Jones (00:01:43.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Dan (00:01:44.000)

Welcome aboard the team.

Jordan (00:01:45.000)

Hi, Stephanie. Good to see ya. Also, I can't actually see you know, you're blind. Now. I'm

Dan (00:01:50.000)

basically blind. I'd like to give a shout out to our other new donator. What's up up there, Ian? I'm a policy wonk. Congratulations, you are both now policy wonks. Welcome aboard. And if you'd like to be a policy, wonk yourself, please go to our website knowledge fight.com. And click the support the show button and you will become a ballsy walk.

Jordan (00:02:07.000)

That's an excellent thing to be it has changed a lot of lives.

Dan (00:02:10.000)

Absolutely. Yeah. I'm so much more interesting to cocktail parties. Oh, and of course, it's my big selling point.

Jordan (00:02:15.000)

No. Well, what I was gonna say is that it's cured cancer three or four times? Total. Is that Is that legal for us to say? Alex Jones? Yeah. I don't think the FDA regulates podcast or policy.

Dan (00:02:28.000)

So Jordan, today we're going to be doing an investigation deep into the past of 2015. Excellent. This is the 12th installment of the What the fuck happened to Alex Jones to get him to like Donald Trump investigation,

Jordan (00:02:40.000)

which is like five more than we ever would have expected from this. It's gonna be so so quick.

Dan (00:02:45.000)

Oh, god, it's so bizarre. Today's investigation, we'll be covering the period of September 19 2015, up until September 28. And the reason is I have this discreet period is a narrative evolves over this period of time, and we'll discuss exactly what it is. Fuck it. I'll just tell you.

Jordan (00:03:08.000)

All right, all right, and it will leave. We're gonna cut this one short, then you got somewhere to be.

Dan (00:03:13.000)

This will lead to two out of context drops, that I will play immediately after this. The reason that this chunk of time I've separated out into this phase of the investigation. It's not because Alex Jones changed his mind about Trump. Spoiler alert. He still doesn't endorse him at the end of this. How? But the pope comes to America. Excellent. So this almost entire week.

Jordan (00:03:36.000)

He is in a while he's in the pope mobiel he's having a gay orgy. Right. According to Alex Jones. That's exactly what the

Dan (00:03:42.000)

very least he's actively covering one up. So the pope comes to America and Alex Jones dispatches Jakari Jackson and David Knight. And they just like they're following the Grateful Dead. They follow the pope around the country. That's fantastic. Like weird field reports about how globalism is on the march. And they're only bringing the pope in because they're making their move. So I don't

Jordan (00:04:06.000)

wait. They're on tour with the Pope arguing that he's killing everybody. Yeah, basically, they

Dan (00:04:10.000)

go to like New York, Philadelphia, all the cities that the Pope makes stops in Jakari. And David give little field reports.

Jordan (00:04:17.000)

This would be a great time. If this was visual, we would have to put up one of those graphics where it's like the little the little plane hopping from city to city or a little tour bus

Dan (00:04:27.000)

Infowars only raised a million dollars in their money bomb. They can't afford that graphic.

Jordan (00:04:31.000)

Oh yeah, that's true.

Dan (00:04:32.000)

So true. I've got moving. I've decided it's not worth our time to cover most of the stuff that Alex Jones says about the pope because I can distill it down to these two out of context drops that basically sum up where Alex's head is okay with the Pope. Here's the first one.

Alex Jones (00:04:48.000)

I can't help it. I had a headache. I was upset until I called the puppet devil worshiper.

Jordan (00:05:00.000)

Okay so calling Popova devil worship. He's like a reverse

Dan (00:05:09.000)

Jesus. It's like relieves whatever ails

Jordan (00:05:13.000)

rather than rather than a holy man laying hands upon you. You calling of a devil

Dan (00:05:18.000)

worshiper will heal your wounds. I was feeling like shit and then it called the pope for divorce where I feel great now it's fucking fantastic. So here's the that all we had to do this whole time. Here's here's the other thing.

Jordan (00:05:27.000)

I'd be a great healthcare bill. Oh, yeah, just say should I say shit about the Pope? Ma'am.

Alex Jones (00:05:31.000)

I've just been desensitized. Getting to meet a lot of celebrities and stuff. It's really quite boring. And my heart rate, what do you mean go up talking to the pub?

Dan (00:05:39.000)

Yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. So I mean, it's basically that that,

Jordan (00:05:43.000)

you know, I've met a Kardashian, I've met the Pope. It's all the

Dan (00:05:48.000)

same spiritual leaders, the same shit. So those two clips, I think sum up a lot of his positions about the Pope. I mean, besides calling him a rank, globalist, and pedophile, yes, and stuff like that. We call them a devil worshiper. And then the second clip he's expressing I don't think it's all that important to meet him. I wouldn't be impressed. So

Jordan (00:06:06.000)

like how we're so far into Alex Jones world that we're seeing, you know, besides the regular he's a globalist and a pedophile. Don't worry about that. That's lame. He doesn't like him very much like

Dan (00:06:18.000)

ACWA arguments it's so pedestrian doesn't even matter. Yeah. Someone else doesn't like

Jordan (00:06:27.000)

we're looking for the unique ones.

Dan (00:06:29.000)

In this it that's one of the sort of downfalls of this podcast, I realize is that if people haven't listened back to a bunch of them they're gonna be like, Why don't you care that these awful things like yeah ago yeah, we're looking.

Jordan (00:06:45.000)

We almost need to like Wikipedia sources cited on here's why we're cool with just blown by pedophiles. Go back to episode three minute 45 Honestly,

Dan (00:06:55.000)

I am trying to build that into the website. Yeah, so anyway, I'm gonna go crazy, but be that as it may, let's jump in.

Jordan (00:07:02.000)

I love I love his his those two clips are such perfect Alex Jones shit, because it is. He's a devil worshiper and also, you know, I don't even care. I don't even care. I'm spending hours talking about him on the show, but I don't even care about the fact that he's nothing to me. Jones you know, that's a library like the obsession. Major movies? Yeah, exactly.

Dan (00:07:26.000)

Bullshit. Yeah. So on September 19, it's a Sunday and David Knight hosts the show. Yes. Alex Jones is out September 20. David Knight hosts again. So we're already two days into our investigation period with nothing off our back. September 21 rolls around. And I have made mentioned that Alex Jones in the last weeks of our investigation has been displaying many pro Putin and pro Russia opinions. Yes, and this trend does not stop now.

Alex Jones (00:07:59.000)

The Russians are building at least three airfields, one of them a forward air base to deliver helicopters and air support with marine forces as well as Russian Spetsnaz for special forces. And Spetsnaz just means Special Forces period and Russian both money and Army Special Forces. This is an exclusive report in English language. It is only in the Russian news as of now. or@infowars.com. In top story infowars.com Russian Marines battle ISIS in Syria, ISIS militants attack Russian airbase, according to Russian media, Russia and Marines clashed with ISIS in Syria on Sunday, according to Russian media, during the fight the Marines allegedly killed and again now they're going to print the article often bring it in here, and I'm going to be able to break all that down for you. During the fight the Marines allegedly killed several militants, that is migrants and others in a racist action I would add According to CNN, I'm being sarcastic. During the fight the Marines allegedly killed several of the peaceniks, I'm sorry, during the longest he's ever killed several militants and captured after ISIS. The airbase right but Jerry target point the Russian reading news service system

Dan (00:09:23.000)

nobody's not he's not staying on target. He's doing all these derivations into like, these are migrants. The you know, this is a racist act. I'm being I'm being sarcastic.

Jordan (00:09:32.000)

I mean, within within his capability, right? He was reading that from start to finish and he had his little editorials thrown in there. But that was solid reading. It was okay. I would give him if he was in my fifth grade class. I would give him a beat.

Dan (00:09:49.000)

I'd give him a satisfactory.

Jordan (00:09:50.000)

Yeah, that's a good one.

Dan (00:09:52.000)

So you might notice that he's saying this is an exclusive report and it's from Russian media. Yeah, I was gonna say you gotta be really careful. When you're citing Russian media, because of their non freedom of the press interesting because Putin has a long history of jailing, killing, attacking journalists, you have to be very careful what you believe that comes out of Russian media. Now I looked into this and check to the sourcing on Alex Jones, his article was on infowars.com AR T. No, that would be too easy. That would be too easy. It goes back to a newspaper and I being very generous. It's a tabloid called Seven Donya. And this is a Ukrainian pro Russian tabloid. Oh, that's not good. No, they are most notable for being in firm support of the Prime Ministerial candidate, Viktor Yanukovych, who was the head of Ukraine, who has deep ties to Paul Manafort, who would have guessed Manafort was his campaign manager and got paid millions of dollars in order to install Yanukovych into power in Ukraine. Really? Yes,

Jordan (00:11:02.000)

dude. Don't we have like, handcuffs or something? Can we just handcuffs these people? Just like, apparently not I don't understand how there's not like clear like, This is bad. Right? So I mean, I guess we don't have laws to protect against this, because people just have this weird assumption that deep down humans are good. Like, that's our failing. That is a problem. Nobody. The founding fathers were like, well, at least we know, they'll love America. Like they completely forgot that people hate everybody. Yeah.

Dan (00:11:33.000)

So beyond that, beyond just this paper being a tabloid propaganda outlet in favor of pro Russian interests in Ukraine. Yeah. Also in 2011, the papers journalists threatened to go on strike after chief editor I heard whose Hava was controversially fired, and his replacement censored certain types of stories and dictated to journalists how certain politicians and public figures should be covered. Their their journalists went on strike, and that got resolved. But even after that, they they put in new Editorial Board members, who insisted on favorable coverage for certain politicians. And that is continued to this day. That was from 2011. Alex Jones is citing an article from four years after this right. Several sebenarnya has been criticized for their favorable positions toward certain candidates. And the newspaper has been accused of publishing forged documents.

Jordan (00:12:28.000)

Thanks. So thank God that only happens over there. Only over there that find certain part of the world. Oh, yeah, those backwards as Russia. So

Dan (00:12:42.000)

Alex Jones is citing a story that's pro Putin positive Russia coverage that is being put out by a Ukrainian pro Russia propaganda tabloid. That's a problem. That's a massive problem. And it informs so much of his his stances that he's starting to take. He's starting to lean pretty hard into a pro Putin mindset, right, which is bizarre, because it's happening even before he gets on board with Trump. Yeah. So all of this stuff that's happening in 2017, where he's like, there is no Russian collusion. This is all bullshit, it starts to become possibly a thing where he has even more hypothetical allegiance to Putin than he does to Trump. I'm not saying that that's absolutely the case. But I think it's starting to look a little bit like that, in as much as he believes that Putin is ultimately the one who's trying to take on the globalists,

Jordan (00:13:36.000)

I see that I think, I think if I was going to venture a Where does his loyalty lie? Candidate? I would say they're the Info Wars of Ukraine. Right? So that's kind of like he's more like likes, like that kind of a thing, as opposed to actually I don't think he actually believes anything about Putin, other than Putin is a great man. Like, if you ascribe to the great man theory of history, you're like, well, Putin is great. Like, undeniably, I'm a big dude,

Dan (00:14:06.000)

I think that you are making a decent point. But I want you to put a pin in it until the end of this episode. Even this next, I always make

Jordan (00:14:15.000)

arguments with more information than then I'm fulfilling my role. And you're like, listen up big dummy. Well, but wait until the

Dan (00:14:23.000)

that's kind of the show. I know a lot.

Jordan (00:14:28.000)

It's a good point. So

Dan (00:14:29.000)

listen to this next clip and see what do you think

Alex Jones (00:14:31.000)

they're now openly announcing the plan to break Syria into three parts as well. And Russia understands this is about taking their only warm water port there on the Mediterranean in Syria. They understand it's part of the march towards bringing down Russia. And, again, I'm not saying Russia is perfect. I'm not saying Russia is wonderful, but Russia is not on an offensive. Russia is not putting cancer viruses in our vaccines. Russia is not opening our borders, right Russia is not funding ISIS. Russia is not government. Russia is not trying to take my guns. Russia isn't on the news shake. My kids belong to the state are criminal illegitimate government ish.

Dan (00:15:12.000)

So essentially they are what he is saying is that because our government has been taken over by these globalists, yeah, that are doing all of these things he lists off, which they aren't doing. They're the bad guys. And Putin is the good guy. Yeah, Putin and Assad are the good guys in Syria. And that's something he's, he's basically said before, but he's,

Jordan (00:15:32.000)

yeah, that's such a well, whenever he praised Assad, that was a bananas situation there too. And Russia is hugely pro Assad. Yeah, they're, they're the main reason Assad is still around. Yeah. So 100%. So I think he's couching that in this language of, we shouldn't be worried about foreign interests, that kind of thing. Don't you think? Like, what he's what he's saying there is, Russia is this guy. And I know they're not perfect and all that stuff. But don't worry about them worry about our illegitimate government doing all of this shit to us. That's that's kind of the angle. I think he's either hiding behind or actually trying to export. It's

Dan (00:16:13.000)

probably more of the prior than the latter because I think he is hoping that he's he's masquerading it, as you know, all Assad is doing is trying to stand up to these rebels. These these ISIS rebels that are trying to take him down, right. And that's all Putin is doing to when the reality is, I mean, if you read up on it, there's a there's a lot of indications that beyond just killing his own citizens, one of the things that Assad has really been trying to do is get Sunnis entirely out of the country, especially out of the portions of the country that are most important to him. Yeah. And that's why refugees have been able to get out in as high numbers as they have is because Assad is totally cool with them, just leaving the country. He's trying to get them out. It's not as much ethnic cleansing on a murderous level, although there is some of that. It's ethnic cleansing of his neighborhood. Yeah, basically. And Putin is totally cool with that, too. Because you get them out. It causes massive destabilization. Yeah. All over the place. Yeah. So the idea that all they're doing is trying to protect their own position is lunacy. And that's what Alex Jones believes in order to make it so they are the good guys. And we are the bad guy.

Jordan (00:17:28.000)

The thing that is very frustrating about that is that he is well, and they're all on the same narrative of it's ISIS, or Assad. Right. When in reality there is that third group who is trying to both fight off ISIS and Assad because Assad is murdering them. And ISIS is murdering. Yes. And the PR campaign through Assad, Putin. And now Alex is the rebels are part of ISIS. Yeah. So that means that the legitimacy is only within Assad's government, even though he's murdering everybody he knows.

Dan (00:18:03.000)

And unfortunately, as time goes on, and as you know, they don't get helped. And the world seems to indicate that they don't care all that much. You do see some of these people who would be on the good side of things being driven to ISIS, they gotta go somewhere. Yeah, you know, in terms of radicalization, they're likely not going to side with Assad. And the in the end, the only other alternative is airlines. If you push

Jordan (00:18:29.000)

out the rebels, or you put a narrative in that the rebels are bad, you're gonna wind up fucking everybody over. Yep, that's the that's the trick. And that

Dan (00:18:37.000)

is what we've seen since 2015. Yeah, when Alex Jones is spinning this bullshit narrative, right, so let's let's jump off this train because we got something kind of fun. On this the September 21 episode, Alex Jones has a little interview with our dear friend who we have reservations about but still like quite a bit. Jesse Ventura. Hey, Jesse Ventura comes on. And Alex Jones accidentally engages him in an argument about whether or not atheism is cool. He accidentally engages him on an argument about church taxation. Oh, boy, it's all under the auspices of the idea

Jordan (00:19:13.000)

that you agree churches should be taxed highly. I think it's a good idea for everyone to pay their fair share.

Dan (00:19:21.000)

That's pretty close to his position.

Jordan (00:19:22.000)

Yeah, I believe Well, I kind of instantly knew that. If Alex is frustrated argue with him, that means they're gonna get

Dan (00:19:29.000)

taxed. Alex is the loses every single point in their argument, and it's great, but it's all based on the fact that the Pope is about to come to America. And so Alex wants to get Jesse Ventura on and talk shit about the Pope. Not realizing Jesse Ventura is not going to play that game now.

Jordan (00:19:45.000)

So here here's Jesse doesn't care about the Pope.

Dan (00:19:47.000)

Here's the first clip where Jesse expresses exactly what he thinks about the Pope. Get

Jordan (00:19:52.000)

out of that. mobula get into the ring.

Jesse Ventura (00:19:54.000)

I liked this pope and I you know, I'm ready to go out and see him with a big sign. Atheist for the Paul

Alex Jones (00:20:00.000)

All right. You know what? Why do you like this pup because he likes open borders?

Jesse Ventura (00:20:06.000)

No, I liked this Pope because he said I can go to heaven.

Alex Jones (00:20:11.000)

That's a solid reason on what subject was that?

Jesse Ventura (00:20:16.000)

The Pope said atheists could go to heaven?

Alex Jones (00:20:20.000)

Well, I understand that you were made to get

Jesse Ventura (00:20:22.000)

I love it. I have a camps now you know that I go, Well, here's what person

Alex Jones (00:20:30.000)

here's where I stand on the whole atheist deal. I get people that can say, hey, I don't believe in imaginary guy in the sky. I believe in science, I believe when I can empirically See, separately though, humans only see a tiny spectrum of reality. They proven dark matter. They've proven other dimensions. So many scientists that were atheist. Get into the genetic engineering realm and go oh my god, something made this. Most scientists believe in evolutionary theory now, but it's its own religion, Governor.

Jesse Ventura (00:20:59.000)

But then again, what about these this guy they just found lately?

Alex Jones (00:21:04.000)

This latest ancient humanoid in Africa.

Jesse Ventura (00:21:07.000)

Yeah, that rocked up right. They buried their dead crap. He looked like a monkey to me.

Jordan (00:21:13.000)

Well, that's offensive.

Dan (00:21:19.000)

Labs, okay, totally. But not justice. Justice. Now,

Jordan (00:21:22.000)

justice is real.

Dan (00:21:23.000)

Let me be clear, I think Jesse's high. There's a couple of points where he just starts laughing like that. But it's great. So let's get to Alex's response.

Jesse Ventura (00:21:39.000)

A gorilla didn't look like my baby bird. I said he looked pretty different than me. But yet he looked humanoid math monkey. And he walked up, right? He buried his debt. And all this stuff. I mean, you know, let's remember something, Alex, that whenever man cannot explain something, it's real easy then to attribute it to God.

Alex Jones (00:22:03.000)

My only issue you're not like this. But so many atheist hate people that are religious. And like, Oh, I know a lot of

Jesse Ventura (00:22:16.000)

atheists don't hate anybody. We believe in that there's a person you talk to. You know, we don't hate nobody. You can believe what you want to believe. If you want to go worship a tree. Just don't force it on to me.

Dan (00:22:33.000)

So Alex has done a terrible job. rebutting anything that Jesse says, Jessie brings in the new archaeological find of a homo sapien type. Creature. Yep, that it sort of invalidates a lot of Alex's arguments. But

Jordan (00:22:50.000)

you don't hear the where's the missing link argument too much from Chris creationist anymore? No, where's the missing link? Oh, well, that one. God,

Dan (00:23:00.000)

the problem with the idea of the missing link is the idea that there was one Yeah, exactly. There's

Jordan (00:23:05.000)

it's an entire the idea you don't believe in evolution? Fucking

Dan (00:23:10.000)

go away. The idea that he's saying that most scientists don't believe in evolution and insanity. Nonsense. It's the same thing that he says like most of them don't believe in climate change. Yeah, it's just making an assertion that,

Jordan (00:23:21.000)

like it is backed up by nothing. But if all

Dan (00:23:23.000)

you read is weird, Ukrainian tabloids and Breitbart and stuff like that, you might get the perception that the rest of the world doesn't believe these things. It's possible

Jordan (00:23:33.000)

Ukrainian scientists aren't Alright, so I'm sort of weird outlier. No, but

Dan (00:23:37.000)

I'm saying that your media director scientists might be because he killed all the good ones are incarcerated. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying that your media diet will dictate what you think is normal. And I think Alex Jones's media diet sucks the Vox news ification of life. Yeah. And now Fox News is becoming Infowars light. Oh, so we have fun. So this next clip, this is really fun for me, because Alex Jones brings up the idea of, I shouldn't have to pay for anchor babies, which Jesse Ventura responds, why do I have to pay for churches? And Alex Jones tries to respond to that, forgetting that Jesse Ventura used to be the governor of a state. So he knows that,

Jordan (00:24:25.000)

in his defense, it is easy to forget, because there's still a part of your brain that goes Wait, what?

Dan (00:24:30.000)

Yeah, no. I was a governor. Yeah, he was a governor and a mayor. And so like, he has a very intimate knowledge of these sorts of things. And Alex doesn't not so listen to this clip. It's so fun for me how badly Alex Jones loses. Why do you keep having Jesse Ventura on your show? He just owns you. Keeps humiliating.

Jordan (00:24:50.000)

He's just owns you the whole time.

Alex Jones (00:24:51.000)

Don't force me to pay for abortion, and don't force me to pay for the Pope.

Jesse Ventura (00:24:57.000)

Well, if the leader of Russia came here Would we provide security for him?

Alex Jones (00:25:01.000)

I don't think it needs to be the biggest security in history. No. And that's a foreign leader, not a religious leader. We have a separation of church and state.

Jesse Ventura (00:25:11.000)

There's more Catholics in the world than there probably is in one country.

Alex Jones (00:25:15.000)

No, absolutely. There's there's probably 100 million Catholics are. You know,

Jesse Ventura (00:25:19.000)

though I see, I understand. I haven't been in government, Alex, I understand the pomp and circumstance and I understand what they do and why they do it. And it's called just proper respect. And it's this and that. Now, if you want to, well, then I got one for you, Alex. Why do churches get by tax free,

Alex Jones (00:25:40.000)

because Congress shall make no law establish respecting the establishment of religion, or having the free exercise thereof. Congress has no jurisdiction,

Jesse Ventura (00:25:49.000)

don't get the same benefits that I get. I'm an atheist, I have to pay more. Yet the church gets its streets plowed. The church gets fire protection, the church gets police protection doesn't pay a thing for it. They don't pay taxes, we should all be treated equally. It sounds like you're talking about illegal aliens. And then you got guys out there that claim to heal people and all that. They call themselves a church. And it's done strictly to avoid being taxed on anything. I think all churches should be taxed. Well, and it even says in the Bible, Jesse, let Caesar have what Caesars?

Alex Jones (00:26:27.000)

Yeah. Well, that was a question of taxation of the church. And he was saying clearly, that Caesars currency whose faces on it. So that's his system, so I get what you're saying there. But in our system,

Jesse Ventura (00:26:39.000)

as an atheist, why should churches not pay property taxes? They receive all the benefits? How come I have the full cure?

Alex Jones (00:26:47.000)

Let me answer the question for you. Because Thomas Jefferson of the left loves so much sure. Separation of Church and State, that means, as an individual, you can say or do whatever you want, in government buildings, or government finance facilities, like schools, that is not what that means of the state or the state. discriminatorily and that Congress has no authority and can make no law respecting the establishment of religion. That's exercise there.

Dan (00:27:16.000)

So we'll get back to it really quick here. But I wanted to pause because he keeps saying that the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof, it's talking about the First Amendment when we talk about Alex Jones being like this kid who read adult books and didn't understand what he was reading and didn't integrate the information. I think he has the same understanding of the First Amendment, because he keeps just rattling that off, and then misinterpreting what it means. Right? He has he has the rote ability to memorize pieces of like passages. Yeah, and stuff like that, and can just recite them. Right. But that's not what the the free exercise thereof or the establishment of religions, portion of the First Amendment means,

Jordan (00:27:55.000)

right? It's like, it's like teaching. It's like teaching a horse how to count, you know,

Dan (00:27:59.000)

can't really count. Well, it's the same thing with how we whenever he cites biblical scripture, right? Like it talks about the prodigal son thing and it completely gets to the point where that one was fine. He just memorizes stuff and then rattles it off without any ability to contextualize that any ability to say how this applies to anything. And that's why you're going to lose against Jesse Ventura, because he's coming to the ring with facts and experience. Now let's get back to this because Jesse's about to give him a body slam. Okay,

Jesse Ventura (00:28:26.000)

has nothing to do with taxing. The bear getting services Alex, that I'm paying for.

Alex Jones (00:28:34.000)

What about the illegals, the illegals, get angry babies for free? The illegals, get all the services, you're all for that.

Jesse Ventura (00:28:39.000)

Oh, Alex, come on, up. Now you're illegals, get illegals also pay taxes and don't file tax returns. How about that?

Alex Jones (00:28:50.000)

How about Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of Angkor

Jesse Ventura (00:28:55.000)

Wat want to benefit religion if you desire, but take it the route that if you're going to use it on one hand, you have to use it. On the other hand, too? Well, I think you've got a really good point being is how come I have to pay? You're claiming you shouldn't have to pay for the Pope to be here. I agree. I'm saying well, how come I have to pay more taxes because churches don't? Well, it's

Alex Jones (00:29:17.000)

obviously not fair from any perspective. And let's just be clear, because I don't really talk about religion with you a lot. There is no one more critical of establishment churches and religions, their political or houses, they're frauds. They're jokes, they're con man most of them who want to be fake leaders who sit there and manipulate people and basically sell the equivalent of indulgences. boner pills free and I don't like that

Jesse Ventura (00:29:42.000)

they're touched up because their religion because it's

Alex Jones (00:29:45.000)

or the or the press or the people's right to assemble First Amendment and I think it's a good thing. The problem is churches now are 501 C three, they're now charities. Gov. So they're not even really churches.

Jesse Ventura (00:30:01.000)

The whole thing of religion is nothing but a massive business. Who, why? Why shouldn't they be held to the corporate standards? They're no different religions, no different than a corporation?

Alex Jones (00:30:16.000)

Well, I agree with you that churches should have to pay for local services. And in most cases, they do pay the local taxes for fire and police and they do.

Unknown Speaker (00:30:25.000)

I don't think that's true.

Jesse Ventura (00:30:26.000)

They're off limits. You can't tax religion. Why not?

Alex Jones (00:30:32.000)

You know, you've got a mayor and a governor. I don't know Minnesota laws, but and I defer to your knowledge on this. But I believe a lot of states, the churches do have to pay the fire fees, and the property taxes and the rest of it to a certain extent, but I agree with

Jesse Ventura (00:30:46.000)

you on that before you make that statement. Well, I

Alex Jones (00:30:49.000)

know it varies state to state, property taxes and churches don't pay proper. I know in a lot of states, they don't or they pay amended, lower levels. But listen, I agree with you.

Dan (00:30:58.000)

Alex. Dances off that point after Jesse has completely destroyed it. Yeah, that comes out of property taxes, churches don't pay property taxes. I was a governor. Yeah, I know these things.

Jordan (00:31:09.000)

Yeah. Alex is Alex is really struggling because he's going back and forth between like, Well, what about illegals, even though that doesn't make any sense? And then he rattles off the First Amendment and that doesn't apply? Yeah. So he's just because each way in each direction, he's getting his ass beat. Yeah, he's trying to switch back and forth. And it's just Jesse has another punch coming from the other angle every time. Yeah,

Dan (00:31:31.000)

because he. I strongly disagree with Jesse Ventura's stance that the media was trying to destroy him with that, you know, American Sniper case, that narrative that he was pitching months back, but now I love it. Yeah,

Jordan (00:31:44.000)

he's he's coming back on rack. Oh, yeah.

Dan (00:31:47.000)

The idea that like, the First Amendment means that we can't text churches. And Alex brings up like, I believe we protect journalists and journalists get text. Yeah. So yeah, he

Jordan (00:32:00.000)

does kind of forget that part of the First Amendment doesn't

Dan (00:32:02.000)

if that if that's the argument he's trying to throw out there. That's, that's poppycock. Yeah. Done. So and that's,

Jordan (00:32:08.000)

that's the thing that so many, if you are rattling around the First Amendment, chances are you don't know what it actually means.

Dan (00:32:15.000)

And chances are, you're about to say something that, you know, yeah, you probably don't defend, Hey,

Jordan (00:32:20.000)

you can't you can't criticize me. I'm just exercising my free speech. You're You're dumb. You're dumb.

Dan (00:32:26.000)

So we have one more clip of Jesse Ventura before we get on to something really weird. And it's great. He brings up the, we'll see,

Alex Jones (00:32:37.000)

my problem is Jesse is that they're turning the state and environmentalism and all this other stuff into religions as well. It's not just the Christians or other religious groups classically, the

Jesse Ventura (00:32:48.000)

you know what I learned Alex do though, you got to check up on Horus. What about Horus? Horus? Was Jesus 70 years 700 years before Jesus?

Alex Jones (00:33:02.000)

Well, I do know that they

Jesse Ventura (00:33:04.000)

his background. He was born of a virgin he lived for 33 He was a carpenter. It's the entire same biography of a guy on Horus, who was an Egyptian religious figure.

Alex Jones (00:33:19.000)

Before the Bible was played your night,

Jordan (00:33:23.000)

Alex,

Jesse Ventura (00:33:24.000)

I'm just saying that you might want death rattle off, but there's two people with the same. There's the ledger biography

Alex Jones (00:33:35.000)

nanobots. I guys, I'm in it. I mean, I wasn't part of it, but I'm in the movie.

Dan (00:33:39.000)

So that's Alex's way of dismissing, like historical factors like yeah, we've all seen Zeitgeist. Yeah. Right, right. I just love the humor of like, I know the guy behind the soundboard was like, All right, Jesse brought up Horace. long pause. Alex responds, what are you talking about? Yeah, Jesse explains. long pause. We're going to, we're gonna break. Alex. He's got nothing. I gotta get him out of Yeah, he has a good support staff. That's true. I think that's

Jordan (00:34:08.000)

they they tend to play him off appropriately. Unlike the Oscars. Yeah,

Dan (00:34:13.000)

absolutely. So we this whole investigation. The whole reason we're back in 2015 is trying to figure out where Alex pivots to supporting Trump. So we got to bring up whenever he brings up something about Trump. Here is Alex explaining that he still loves Rand Paul doesn't support even though he's had his heart broken. Yep. But doesn't support Trump yet, but then it pivots into more pro Russia. Rhetoric. We're Yeah, weird.

Alex Jones (00:34:40.000)

And then another article, all Republican presidential candidates stand for war. I read that article and I agree with Roberts on most issues. But Rand Paul is not supporting war. Chum a little bit little bit confused by that but almost all of them are. That is certainly a fair shot. Look, I've been critical of Rand Paul, only saying he should get more fired up. But if you watch that debate, last Wednesday night, we covered it live here during the 28 hour transmission. He's hands down the best candidate. I mean, Trump's funny to watch. He's fun. He says a lot of stuff. That's true. But it's just crazy. You know, talking about optics, I saw a story over the weekend, about Vladimir Putin and Berlusconi, the former president of Italy, and then Eastern Ukraine and Crimea at a famous vineyard. And they weren't, they opened up a bottle of 1000s of bottles of wine that were there that was 210 years old. You can just type in Putin, and Berlusconi in Ukraine probe for drinking Crimea wine. And this is a stunt they know, will reach out to the proletariat. At the time that that bottle of wine was court was produced Russia fully controlled Ukraine and fully controlled Crimea waiting there was part of Russia, that they're claiming that Putin and Berlusconi stole a bottle of wine. It was part of a PR stunt is promoting local Ukrainian wine, like, Oh, we're here with the farmers. Yes. Why and why it's very old. And then they reduce it down to the ultimate crime. BBC, CNN, Fox News, Associated Press, Reuters, French news agencies that Vladimir Putin is there looting the Ukrainian wine. The globalist overthrew the country two years ago, they put it into civil war, they appointed a government. They're bombing and shelling all over the country. The Russians have taken a small area that has their pipelines.

Jordan (00:36:54.000)

Oh, wait. You just they've taken a small area, admittedly worth billions of dollars. But it wasn't a big area. Right. They didn't take real estate. They took resources. Wow, I shouldn't have said that last part. I shouldn't have said that last part.

Dan (00:37:16.000)

That's fascinating. But then the other thing that I think is I mean, we can just gloss over the fact that Alex just believed that everything that's bad is the global globalist took over Ukraine tears. But again, that goes back to what we talked about on the last episode with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, right. The idea that the Zionists Their goal is trying to make countries fight each other. And so in Alex's conception, they are the globalists and they go destabilize the Ukraine in order to attack Russia. Yeah. Crazy

Jordan (00:37:42.000)

or destabilize Ukraine in order to to retake it over?

Dan (00:37:46.000)

Maybe? I don't know. It's, it's great. But

Jordan (00:37:49.000)

I didn't understand the particulars of the elders of Zions plan, and I really don't understand globalist spirit.

Dan (00:37:55.000)

Well, they're the same, but be that as it may. I think it's fascinating that Alex is talking about, you know, his feelings about about Rand Paul and Trump, and then has a thought and get sidetracked into talking about defending Putin. It's weird.

Jordan (00:38:12.000)

That is really weird. I don't think it necessarily means. Why was he thinking about that, though, because Rand

Dan (00:38:18.000)

Paul needs to be visually more aggressive. And so he started to think about optics. And he started to think about the way leaders present themselves. And that got him on to thinking about how strong Putin is.

Jordan (00:38:31.000)

But also, I imagine why does he even know that story?

Dan (00:38:34.000)

It was a very minor story. Yeah, it's

Jordan (00:38:36.000)

super minor. Yeah. Which means reading. That's

Dan (00:38:39.000)

why he's drinking.

Jordan (00:38:40.000)

He's reading the Ukrainian Infowars. Yeah, that's what he's doing in order in order to get that story.

Dan (00:38:46.000)

I'm gonna guess. 100% That's yeah, yeah. From pro Russian media.

Jordan (00:38:52.000)

Also, anytime Berlusconi is involved, you know, there's going to be a rampant theft of money, right? There's going to be drinking, and they probably fucked somebody afterwards in a bus. That's, that's the Berlusconi is the richest bang bus operator in history. That's exactly what he is.

Dan (00:39:09.000)

That's really what's more going on here. The story is more about Berlusconi.

Jordan (00:39:14.000)

Berlusconi, doing there in the first place.

Dan (00:39:18.000)

He's born Italy as a fascist history. Yes. Well, lumpa man.

Jordan (00:39:21.000)

Well, I mean, he wasn't he wasn't still president back then. 2015 Though he had already been kicked out for all the crime, but he's super rich. Yes, he is super rich, because all the crime right,

Dan (00:39:32.000)

speaking of crimes,

Jordan (00:39:33.000)

what crimes are crimes? Yeah.

Dan (00:39:37.000)

Alex Jones has a story about a crime that was perpetrated on citizen by the police. Oh, and you need to hear about this. But before you do, Alex does not make this very clear. This happened in 2000, I believe the story he's referencing happened in 2000. So he's right on its 15 year old news, right. And let me just tell you He's lying. And I will tell you the truth after this horrendous display of fake emotion, this is

Alex Jones (00:40:07.000)

what needs to be done. I mean, we've got people going into men's barbershop saying cut my hair, and then go in and basically try to start government lawsuits, threatening $10,000 fines, bullshit and getting $700 fines. If you go Hey, lady, we cut men's hair.

Dan (00:40:22.000)

This goes back to a narrative we talked about on a past episode, let's just glance past it.

Alex Jones (00:40:26.000)

That's clearly not discrimination. It's what you do as a business.

Dan (00:40:33.000)

At this point, it's a text message. At this point, Alex Jones is looking at his phone and taking a text message very professional.

Jordan (00:40:38.000)

Just just an air.

Alex Jones (00:40:43.000)

What's going on right now? There's so much happening. That's how he comes back and it makes my head spin. It absolutely makes my head hurt hard. Hurt so hard. Hurts so hard. Just to see videos like I have in my cell in numbers 911 The road to charity that I made 14 years ago, 13 years ago, plus it was out within three months of 911. Quick work. And they Paul in the middle of nowhere in Virginia. He's enabled veteran no criminal record, has canning equipment, the VHS tape of Patriot Games in the inner backsheet poor woman, no Harrison Ford, the mechanic book with Clancy. Tom, and they pull her over she comes to checkpoint, they want to ask her questions. She says you don't have a reason to have a checkpoint running. Are you looking for somebody in particular? And they go, No, she doesn't, I'm not gonna do it. So they drag her out of the car. And they find the Patriot Games and they start freaking out and getting scared. Just says the word patriot. And it's like a satire piece. You can't believe they're acting. This shilly this freaked out this crazy. And then they flip out from there and get the banner in our trunk and I find canning supplies. They think that's really evil. And then they find a pocket constitution. And they go oh my god. Is this legal? And then a supervisor comes and says she may be allowed to have that. Maybe that's what she talks about how she's got a constitution. That may be what she means. But look, we'll just take her to jail and find out is it legal out? Oh, no. Here are guys that have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution Bill of Rights Declaration of Independence is the whole foundation of the country. And I'm not making fun of them. That's how they were talking on the squad car video. Already. In the film, there's like three or four minutes and they're just like, mug ball she got it she's one of them extremists like the Klan or something. Balls she got? Oh,

Jordan (00:43:03.000)

yeah. Like the accent.

Alex Jones (00:43:07.000)

She's gotta come. I mean, it was like they found a dead mama five baby in her trunk.

Dan (00:43:15.000)

It's interesting. Alex is so full of shit. Yeah, there's a story.

Jordan (00:43:20.000)

I'm glad that that's the end of the story. And he read it off accurately. I'm sure there's no other information. There's no context for that at all. It's purely a constitution. Given the Trump's he found a pocket constitution. Yeah. That means she's in the kk k, right?

Dan (00:43:36.000)

There's about a lady named Abby Newman, who was pulled over in a traffic stop in 2000 in West Virginia. She was driving without a license and she was searched. Her car was searched. I don't know about the the official record containing any reference to a constitution or Patriot Games. But the official record does show that she had hollow point bullets in her car. Ooh, cop killer bullets. Yeah,

Jordan (00:44:03.000)

but those are the same thing. Is the Constitution. The same thing? Yeah, there's a one look you can either have a pocket constitution right or some cop killing bullets. It's the same stuff. It means you know both DJI accused if you've read one you know how to use the other. You know what I'm saying? Damn.

Dan (00:44:19.000)

In court she decided to represent herself which did not go well. She accused the officers of using excessive force on her that was thrown right out because the videotape does not show any force. I'm starting to be charmed by what it's like or what it shows is her being verbally abusive to the police and when they end up handcuffing her she doesn't make any complaint that the handcuffs are too tight. There's no real grounds for her argument that they were treating her roughly or anything like that. But the most important thing is that they did find hollow point illegal bullets in her car. Those are used to kill cops. They are used they're

Jordan (00:44:57.000)

used to kill armored and Animals when you're hunting right, how else do you get through a turtle shell? Dan, I forgot to hollowpoint to get the armadillos are everywhere in West Virginia. But that can't be true.

Dan (00:45:10.000)

I forgot. True deer often do suit up. Oh, Kevlar.

Jordan (00:45:15.000)

I forgot about that. It's the first nation they put. They put flak jackets on us. So Alex's

Dan (00:45:19.000)

other argument is like these cops are being stupid and like we found one, that that's an extremist. She is very clearly a sovereign citizen. She is a member of the anti government group. And I'm basing this on the fact that I'm reading this off from roanoke.com article about her trial, she has

Jordan (00:45:43.000)

gotta be good she has I love it when the sovereign citizens go to court.

Dan (00:45:47.000)

She has also argued in the past that she believes the United States is controlled by the Federal Reserve Bank, which is run by Freemasons who obey the British monarchy. She has also said Federal Reserve Bank uses social security numbers and birth certificates as certificates of ownership

Jordan (00:46:01.000)

of American there we are, there it is. There's my favorite one.

Dan (00:46:05.000)

Later, she also held up a loaded ammunition clip during an interview and vowed she would never get arrested again. That's a threat. So Alex Jones is trying to present it like she just says a movie and some canning equipment in her car.

Unknown Speaker (00:46:24.000)

No getting a clip, oh, she

Dan (00:46:25.000)

is a part of a very scary fringe, right wing organization, loosely knit organization. And how I know that she's a sovereign citizen is this piece that they she believes that the Federal Reserve Bank uses social security numbers and birth certificates and certificates of ownership?

Jordan (00:46:42.000)

For Americans? That's the one we talked about earlier with maritime law on that bullshit how it's capitalized. So yeah,

Dan (00:46:48.000)

the social security numbers that are created are in order to create debt in your name. Yes, in your corporate identity as opposed to your person. Exactly. It's, it's a very big part of the sovereign problem

Jordan (00:46:59.000)

is they use Times New Roman, and we all know that that's a Roman font, right? They're not sovereign over the United States. You shouldn't use New Republic fonts, something along those lines, if it's

Dan (00:47:11.000)

Alex Jones, and got to use Windows exam. Nuts. So that's just a complete lie. I mean, it's a lie about something that happened 15 years in the past, but a lie nonetheless. Yeah, to make the argument that oh, the police don't even understand the Constitution. They hate the Constitution. No, they hate people who have hollowed tip bullets driving around without a license and don't believe the government has any authority. That's a very reasonable disgust. Yeah. Because Because cops have been killed by a lot of sovereignty, and

Jordan (00:47:36.000)

it's just me You took me on a little bit of an emotional roller coaster there. I was kind of on her side for a little bit. I don't like cops either. Sure. Then you kept going the holotype points. Not great. No, I don't like those. That's a bad sign. The clip being held up and saying I'll never be arrested again. Why No. Now I'm on the cop side. For real for sure.

Dan (00:47:55.000)

Yeah. So the other thing too, is that this is just another further indication of anytime Alex Jones does one of these voices. He's completely lying. Yeah. Whenever he characterizes somebody with a with an affectation or whatever, he's making shit up. Yeah. So

Jordan (00:48:09.000)

he's even had the balls to be like, I'm not I'm not making fun of these people. That's the sound of their voices. Right. That immediately goes back to law. Like it's a bad Adam Sandler voice like that's what's going on.

Dan (00:48:22.000)

Yeah, absolutely. So, get this. You think that's sort of disrespectful to truth, and integrity, and journalism and cops, right? You're not ready for what happens next on the 21st Alex Jones has, conceptually my favorite guest of all time. I don't like this guy at all. But the idea that he's on the show is awesome.

Alex Jones (00:48:45.000)

Well now driverless pods are already hitting public roads. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, and checks reassessment is latest company benefit in push for equality as they Eckles the food and water to further confuse the public sexuality moving us towards an asexual system, where you know what, there can be no sensualism there can be no culture of any type, everything's just gray, or You're offending someone else. Who would have ever thought as from Bloomberg Business, that they would actually now be saying ban the word mother and father husband, wife, boy and girl they're not. You see it moves from except everyone would rather be a man or a woman that hurts somebody else's feelings. It's not tolerance. It's not like I'm tolerant of the you know, LD leather daddy on South Park. It's that, that in the future that'll be bad too. Because it's hurtful of someone who doesn't know lemme Lynch I mean, this this is my buddy. Start to joke around. I gotta stop right there, bro. Pat and his wife are really good friends of mine. We go out and do Barton Springs you know, go out on the lake, you name it good friends of mine. He's also my personal trainer. He's been gone for three and a half weeks and a few years. Pat takes off for a few days for feelings and he's gonna be telling you about his experience in Eastern Europe. With the immigrants. I'm sorry, that's not the word I'm supposed to use. Now. The migrants, the the refugees, we'll be talking to Pat here in just a moment.

Dan (00:50:23.000)

Alex Jones has his personal trainer on as a guest Yeah, to talk about immigrants. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. He just went on vacation

Jordan (00:50:30.000)

to Europe. He was personally training him in hatred, and Krav Maga.

Dan (00:50:37.000)

So clearly these guys are bros. You can tell very clearly can tell by the fake laughing and Alex Jones thinking they're having, like, messing around. I represent me. Yeah, so this guy is a dick. Like Alex Jones is a dick. But this guy brings out so much dicussion isn't Alex Jones that I wish I had fucking audio of their training sessions. Yeah, because Alex is not getting healthier. He doesn't work. So they can't

Jordan (00:51:04.000)

be they can't be doing a good job. No, but what they have to be

Dan (00:51:07.000)

doing is just blowing out so hard about bigotry. It's gotta be and I love those tapes. Because you know, you start getting a little bit of exercise in your testosterone kicks in, and you're just like, Oh, God, and this comes out in their interview,

Jordan (00:51:21.000)

just just benchpress that much Muslim, just push them out. So push them out of this country. The entire

Dan (00:51:26.000)

interview is essentially about how when he was overseas, Alex Jones, his personal trainer saw a lady with some kids who were asking for money outside of a hotel. And there was a guy who was allegedly this lady's husband, who was threatening to jump if they don't get enough money, because they can't afford to get wherever they need to go or feed their children.

Jordan (00:51:46.000)

So which is terrible, especially when you read the stories now of the one that just just happened where that was literally

Dan (00:51:53.000)

the thing that happened. Yeah, but it wasn't a scam but the suicide notes and jumped off a fucking building. Yeah, because they had medical bills that couldn't pay right.

Jordan (00:52:02.000)

Or the guy or the guy who tried to steal $1 from the bank to get health care. Jesus knots.

Dan (00:52:07.000)

So the other thing is I believe that this probably was a scam. But there are a lot of scams that people do. Alex Jones is running a massive one Yeah, so like the idea that people who are in desperate situations are going to run cons is not really a blight on immigrants.

Jordan (00:52:27.000)

Now what they shouldn't be doing is random money bombs. Absolutely. They

Dan (00:52:30.000)

shouldn't be doing they should get a million dollars that way paint this as just proof that you can't fucking trust these brown people. They just run these fucking scams. Who not considering like, this is a really extreme version of a scam. This guy is threatening to jump off a building. Now he's probably not going to do it. But just the fact that you have to bring suicide into the equation. That's much different than like running around and like Chiclets. Yeah, you know,

Jordan (00:52:56.000)

I don't know. I mean, you can wash windows or you can threaten suicide like these are the two things you can do right? What else is there it's a there's it's a tough, it's a tough economy out there even for pain when I hear

Dan (00:53:07.000)

things like this. And I think about how sad it is that our world is in the situation. It's in where a lot of people are forced to use you know, dishonest means in order to make money out of desperation. Yeah, it is a bummer. They're called Wall Street Dan. Meanwhile, Alex and his bro out. Physical personal trainer. They have a slightly different angle on the whole thing.

Alex Jones (00:53:33.000)

That's a great Well, that's what the gypsies do in here.

Jordan (00:53:35.000)

Oh no, no.

Alex Jones (00:53:37.000)

They'll take their firstborn, whatever and maim it. Absolutely break the arm, twist it, burn it with acid, and then the child is begging and then you're supposed to give them money. And it's like, well, it's their culture to name their children fuck and bloggers it was the Nazis culture to kill everybody's luck. You know, I don't support any of that. No, we have to learn to discriminate against cultures that are twisted and corrupt.

Dan (00:53:57.000)

All right, let's start with the South. Yeah, no kid and the lingering south. Oh, let's start with that. Let's start with your culture. Alex, let's start with your weird constitutionalist anti government groups.

Jordan (00:54:09.000)

Hey, man, the gypsies aren't the one being racist to black people in the south. The gypsies aren't the one who enslaved them. The gypsies aren't the one who did the Tuskegee experiments. The gypsies aren't the people who've done all of this shit. And also don't say the word gypsy. That's very awful

Dan (00:54:23.000)

problem. Romani up that isn't me. I'm not making that argument. I'm not saying we should discriminate against Alex's culture. I'm saying that like,

Jordan (00:54:30.000)

Well, I mean, it's a bad culture, we should kick all of them out of our country. It's

Dan (00:54:34.000)

not great. It's not a great culture that Alex lives in. But be that as it may, that, you know, it's within his right to exist in that culture and spout the bullshit that he spouts. But I don't understand how he doesn't get the same thing that protects his sort of right to exist is what protects everyone's rights. It's because

Jordan (00:54:52.000)

they don't they just don't understand the well I mean, what was the phrase that venturi used it If it works for one hand, both hands Yeah, it's the same shit with Trump tweeting out like it should always be popular vote. And you're like, god dammit, you idiot. Do you not understand for a second how this shit actually works?

Dan (00:55:13.000)

Right? And that will fuck you over in the long run. Yeah. So great. Like Good job Trump, right? You fucking idiot. Well, it's just bad solutions to

Jordan (00:55:25.000)

either not existing problems or made up ones.

Dan (00:55:28.000)

Yeah. So you're gonna need to put the mic down for this next clip, okay, because Alex Jones and his trainer, get into God,

Jordan (00:55:38.000)

I don't want to hear this.

Dan (00:55:40.000)

It's It's pretty bad. It's one of the it's one of the more misogynistic things I've heard on his program. And that that's saying a lot. I said, not the most, maybe but one of the most. Oh, this is real grim. All right, Mike down, and I think they think they're ripping, which makes it worse.

Alex Jones (00:55:55.000)

Well, Pat Riley is here with us. You dropped by occasionally and hanging out in studio, you've been gone for three weeks. But you were there in Europe during the midst of this. All I gotta say is the Croatia photos. Man, where is that like you were at?

Patrick Riley (00:56:08.000)

Plitvice Lakes and kirker were two national parks that I went to and I told them

Alex Jones (00:56:13.000)

quite nice. You're telling me the women are particularly not good looking letter?

Patrick Riley (00:56:18.000)

Not at all. Not at all. My wife was happy to know that there were some extremely unattractive women there so that you know,

Alex Jones (00:56:24.000)

there's your wife went for two weeks, she admitted but then he went for three. Correct. But you were good boy.

Patrick Riley (00:56:29.000)

I was very good horse. Good man. All right, the women are ugly. The women are ugly. Continue proceed.

Alex Jones (00:56:35.000)

But you said the further you go east the better login. Absolutely total torture

Patrick Riley (00:56:39.000)

is Downpatrick rarely says

Alex Jones (00:56:42.000)

certified delicious woman in the field was good too. But you know, the feminists say we're not supposed to compliment women because they control women. That's their territory. They run the women and most top feminists I understand are lesbians. And so they want like a like a giant elephant seal out there with their harem while my women can we show some some elephant seals, dominant elephant seals, and so they're just telling us stay away from their women. But I was want to tell all of know, we're muscling into the table. And no you don't get all women,

Patrick Riley (00:57:14.000)

my women. That's always here.

Alex Jones (00:57:18.000)

You want to do a elephant's elimination.

Patrick Riley (00:57:20.000)

Now I'm calling that you.

Alex Jones (00:57:22.000)

You might tell you secretly go to a beach and pick up all the women

Dan (00:57:25.000)

first of all that guy definitely cheated on his wife that the way they were talking he absolutely that whole thing of like they're all ugly women is his way of like saying the opposite of that.

Jordan (00:57:38.000)

I don't that's you can I don't like any of you can tell by their anything like speculating on this shit right there. Terrible chemistry

Dan (00:57:43.000)

leads me to believe he fucked some European women. But secondly,

Jordan (00:57:47.000)

well, he's a personal trainer. And I'm assuming he's fairly fuck this guy. I hope I the only why didn't he get kidnapped in a taken situation? And his wife was like, Yeah, you got him. You keep your good you guys keep them.

Dan (00:58:02.000)

The only thing I respect about him is that Alex is like you want to do an elephant seal impression. He's like, No, yeah, I respect that. The rest of it terrible. So Alex's idea that's what they want you to dominate attacking crap. They're lesbians. The top feminist feminists which you're right, that's an absurd idea. Just the idea of top feminists. Yeah, they're the best person How are rankings? Oh, yeah. Feminism world?

Jordan (00:58:24.000)

No, I'm at I'm at what I'm at 1.3 million. 245 I'm like, I'm that's where I'm at little lower. You're a little lower than that. You gotta catch up. I'm gonna

Dan (00:58:34.000)

catch up publicly. But be that as it may.

Jordan (00:58:38.000)

This I'll never break into the top million. I'll tell you that right now.

Dan (00:58:41.000)

So let's pretend that that is at all reasonable, then Alex that's a long jump and that they are lesbians and that they want a harem of women that they don't want dudes getting into Yeah, even if that makes sense. Even elephant seals even if that's true. Alex Jones is argument that no, I'm muscling in that's still bad. That's still fucked up. What we don't need in terms of our

Jordan (00:59:06.000)

that's him saying like, No, you shouldn't dominate these women. I should be the one who dominates these women exam you don't even know what they really want. I'm the only one who can dominate these women in the exam should have a harem fuck that. Fucking

Dan (00:59:22.000)

right no matter what. It's still looking at women as things Yeah. And it's Oh fucking Yeah, it's so fucking wrong. It's so toxic. Just this idea that I mean just

Jordan (00:59:32.000)

well, and he's equating that. He's just projecting his bullshit on to lesbians imagining that, well, if it's a female who acts like a male, then she's just needs to be reminded that she's not me. Well, like that kind of shit.

Dan (00:59:48.000)

And further what he's projecting is what he would do and someone exactly the

Jordan (00:59:54.000)

way he fucking always done. If

Dan (00:59:55.000)

I were a top feminist, I would try and get a harem of women That's basically what he said. And it makes sense that he ended up marrying a erotic Mazouz. His personal life is off limits, but that's public. That's out. Okay. All right. I didn't know that. Yeah, his new wife is well known in Iran and married for a little while. Yeah, she was apparently a

Jordan (01:00:15.000)

she was a jerk off, lady. It's possible. Okay. Anyway, not to slander her. No. Maybe she just danced a little while massaging. Who knows? I don't know what erotic masu says.

Dan (01:00:27.000)

Anyway, that's the end of our coverage of September 21. And we will move along now to September 22.

Jordan (01:00:34.000)

Jesus Christ, those two guys talk. It's

Dan (01:00:36.000)

so bad gusting Yeah, it's really bad. I cut out a bunch of like, all this stuff about the actual immigrants that he saw. It's, I mean, we can distill it into one sentence, like we did, but the rest of it is just sort of like, you know, these are untrustworthy. It's just these two guys together horrible. It's that it's

Jordan (01:00:54.000)

that kind of thing that I thought it was bullshit. The argument that Trump immediately got out of after the grabbing by the pussy thing, where he's like, Oh, it's just locker room talk. I thought there's no way that anybody will buy that bullshit. It's so transparently dumb. And that is exactly what apparently this happens.

Dan (01:01:14.000)

Totally. Just this happens a lot. Just not with the people. We hang out.

Jordan (01:01:18.000)

Yeah, no, we're just in this weird bubble of not being horrifying.

Dan (01:01:22.000)

Yeah. The other thing I want to point out,

Jordan (01:01:24.000)

I mean, we're still horrifying, many different ways.

Dan (01:01:26.000)

Maybe this is a minor thing for me to be pointing out. But, dude, this is the big leagues. This isn't some podcast, you're having your personal trainer as a guest. Come with it, man. Like you have a billion people you reach every month, you'll hundreds of millions of listeners. And for an expert, you decide to get your fucking personal trainer. Yeah, but he's just bro. Man

Jordan (01:01:49.000)

that doesn't love it. It's the same thing. Like how many comedy shows have you been to where it's like, Oh, that guy did not get booked because he was good. We got booked because he was friends with the guy running the show. It's the same thing that does the same.

Dan (01:02:03.000)

That doesn't happen in the big leagues.

Jordan (01:02:06.000)

I don't think that's true at all.

Dan (01:02:08.000)

I don't think Jfl is booking based on friendship. I say I disagree. Sometimes. Maybe. I mean, if you can, if you count. Like, maybe that's just me being better than I've never been booked for Jfl. That could be a two if you count agents as friendship. Maybe my argument. Be that as it may, we got to get on to this. The 22nd Alex Jones has an interesting guest on the 22nd more interesting than his personal trainer, that's for sure. And I'll let him

Jordan (01:02:33.000)

as his personal trainer at least give us any tips. Nope. Not at all.

Dan (01:02:38.000)

Nothing to do with your doubts or quads. God dammit. Here's Alex introducing who has got us a new arm workout. This is Alex Singh who is guest is gonna be on the 22nd.

Alex Jones (01:02:49.000)

Ladies and gentlemen, we're live. We're broadcasting worldwide on this Tuesday, the 22nd day of September 2015. We do have some guest joining us for about 30 minutes. At the start of the next hour diamond and Schilke the two very entertaining and informative ladies, oh boy and so viral on the internet on Donald Trump. I wanted to get them on the show. So there'll be popping in with us to talk all things Donald Trump and election 2016 for 30 minutes.

Jordan (01:03:21.000)

It comes as he wants to fuck these two girls.

Dan (01:03:26.000)

No, I don't think that's the case. But it is indicative of a pivot in some ways. Because there's no reason to have these two ladies on your show. Unless you just want someone parroting Donald Trump propaganda row Donald Trump argument right? Because the two of them God bless them. They're doing whatever they want to do. But the it's just basically them yelling, we stomped for Trump. He's going to bring our jobs back all the Trump talking points. Really? Yeah.

Jordan (01:03:54.000)

Why never seen

Dan (01:03:55.000)

why did they go viral? Because it's two black ladies sitting in front of like webcam, just like doing like, you said it like that sort of stuff. Oh, and but it's for Trump. Right? And the reason it goes viral is because it's so against type. Yeah, you expect to hear like hillbillies.

Jordan (01:04:12.000)

And it's just like, it's just like Alex with the one black pastor. It's like this legitimizes everything that we say now, right? If two black ladies are on our side, we can be as racist as we want.

Dan (01:04:23.000)

Right. And I don't know, I don't know what their story is. I don't know what their history is. I do know that of the stuff I've seen of them. They don't really have what appears to be a nuanced position on the issues. Okay. I'm not i It's difficult for me to encapsulate what I mean, are their real names. I don't I don't care. From what I can tell. Basically, they just repeat pro Trump stuff. And that was what was their claim to fame. The interview that Alex Jones ends up having is not substantive in any way, and we'll get to one One clip of it a little bit later. But before we do, it's important that on the 22nd Alex Jones has finally found or looking for know it reasonably, he still hasn't found what he's looking for. It recently came out in the salon article, Todd Nickerson the article where the guy comes out and explains that he has an attraction to children but would never act. Ah, yes. And Alex Jones has been saying that the globalists are going to try and mainstream pedophilia and try and make against pedophilia. You are a pedo phobe and so Alex makes a fucking meal out of this article. Yeah, of course. And let's let's just jump into it

Alex Jones (01:05:42.000)

actor salon. I'm gonna cover this more later. I saw this last night. And Kitt Daniels wrote a story about it louder with Crowder has a story out on it today. The headline is no salon. I don't need to understand the plight of pedophiles. And here's the headline I'm a pedophile but not a monster, and it's begun. So it's begun. They're accepted the NGO non governmental organization of the UN they're not. Well, I mean, it's just like I said earlier this week or last week, what do you think Jocelyn elders, when she was the swab and bringing her back up? The Surgeon General said we need to help the little children masturbate. It's about weirdos sexually getting their hands on your kids. Because if they can do that, they can do anything forced inoculations, you name it, and they don't California pass a lot for years. Why should you start getting kids inoculate?

Jordan (01:06:38.000)

I don't like the acceleration. The whatever, fuck this. This is I hate that I hated that. That whole thing because reading that was such a complex situation very much. So so so for for somebody who's trying to understand people and figure out what is not just not just like, oh, let's kill these guys. But how do we actually practically reduce pedophilia and all of these things?

Dan (01:07:09.000)

Well, it's like what we've talked about with gun stuff, the end result that we want is less people being killed by guns. Yeah, in terms of pedophiles, what we want is less children being abused. Yeah. And if the route to that end goal that we like, is a further understanding of where does this come from? Right, what is going on in the psychology of the people who are attracted to children, then it behooves you to have some understanding, that doesn't mean liking it. That doesn't mean accepting it. That doesn't mean mainstreaming it, but it does mean, like the end goal is not well achieved by murdering everybody who has attractions to children. Yeah, the end goal of that will be everyone going underground. And you've seen that the dark web connect, right? The people have of, you know, child porn.

Jordan (01:07:59.000)

And just like just like the guy said in the article, it's like, I can't tell my therapist. I can't tell my psychiatrist. I can't tell people. No, you because they're, well,

Dan (01:08:10.000)

they don't have an obligation to report just that you have.

Jordan (01:08:14.000)

But that's what they're meant when they're saying, yeah, they won't do that. Not that they can't, but that they won't because of such this this terror, that there's a party that's like fucking No, you're a mod like all of these different complicated things. And that's our issue. If you're on the right, nope, simple. It's skeet shooting. It goes up Yes, shoot it down. Well, it's an easy narrative for them

Dan (01:08:39.000)

to push it so perfectly into fear mongering and other wrong and and I get it, I get it. I don't think that Alex Jones is a complete idiot for being averse to this. But I think he's being incredibly dishonest by saying that it is part of a push to mainstream eyes horse pedophilia, and then beyond that, the things that he uses to bolster that is saying that pedophiles are recognized nongovernmental organization with the UN. Nambla stuff from way back when right there was the gay advocacy group that in the what was it the early 80s included Nambla, the gay rights organization became a recognized member, an advisory member of the UN Yeah, and then it came out. Oh wait Nambla as part of your group, so they got kicked out. Then they kicked Nambla out? Yes, yeah. Nambla has never been a part of advisory committees for the UN. It's just a complete lie that he knows no one's going to look into. Yeah. Then beyond that, we see him doing the voice with Jocelyn elders, which tells should tell you he's lying. Yeah, and he absolutely is. Jocelyn elders just said that in terms of discouraging dangerous behaviors, maybe children should learn about masturbating. Maybe it's not saying hey, go jack off those kids. Hey, teachers, what you should do is get in those pants. She didn't say that. And Alex is just, it would be wild if she did. But so the fact that he's using these two absolute sort of definable lies to bolster his argument should tell you that he's not willing to wrestle with the nuance that we were sort of just indicating

Jordan (01:10:15.000)

Exactly. That's the problem in that situation. Everybody who is, you know, capable of reason is paralyzed by that, right? Because you're just there's so much to kind of sift through whereas if you're on the right you just get to you just get to fucking put your ears back and go whole hog into this right and there's no way to for like, the argument that I can have with him is just it's really complicated. Yeah, and I don't think there's any way you'll ever understand it if

Dan (01:10:46.000)

I were talking to Alex Jones about these things. Like I'm gonna punt

Jordan (01:10:49.000)

Yeah, exactly. No, this one's This one's i don't know i don't know Yeah, i There's no easy answer. There's no clear answer. No. So I just I don't know man. I got nothing

Dan (01:10:59.000)

anyway. If you if you think he's done a bad job so far, let's listen to this next clip where he gets into some analysis I

Jordan (01:11:06.000)

thought it was already over I thought he had already fucked everybody up. No,

Dan (01:11:10.000)

yes. Some analysis about the article. Let's

Jordan (01:11:13.000)

have analysis. Well,

Dan (01:11:14.000)

I mean, I guess technically doesn't but you

Jordan (01:11:17.000)

guys like definition. Gotcha.

Alex Jones (01:11:19.000)

Now writing for salon. Todd Nickerson says this. Isn't he brave coming out of the closet? Maybe he should be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Maybe she got an ESPN award.

Jordan (01:11:36.000)

I don't I don't think he should be then he would be hurt by a lot

Dan (01:11:39.000)

of people. But also right there. What he's doing is subconsciously implanting in his audience's mind a connection between pedophiles and Caitlyn Jenner. He is trying to create a soft mental bridge between pedophiles and transgender people. Oh, yeah, absolutely doing that. It's intentional. I did not it's not intentional in the sense that he meant to but it's how his mind works in the way

Jordan (01:12:00.000)

that all of their minds work, right? Absolutely. We can't We can't have gay marriage because gay people are pedophiles. Like that whole whole thing. Well, he'll be back when he'll deal

Dan (01:12:09.000)

with that in a second. Yeah, but beyond whatever he's about to say. Right. There is an indication that at least on some level, he equates transgender people with pedophiles. Yeah, which is fucking atrocious. But be that doesn't mean

Alex Jones (01:12:22.000)

I'm a pedophile, but not a monster. I'm attracted to children, but unwilling to act on it. Before judging me harshly, would you be willing to listen? And this is exactly how the homosexual lobby started back in the 40s and 50s, with articles in Reader's Digest saying the exact same thing and they say, Hey, that's adults. That's consenting that's gone on forever. Absolutely. homosexuals and pedophiles are two different categories. Totally stop. They're

Jordan (01:12:56.000)

out there. But

Alex Jones (01:12:57.000)

they're the larger agenda forget. Forget heterosexuals. forget any of these groups and labels. You're so close to a larger globalist dehumanization, Thx 1138 Brave New World, Brave New World revisited, UNESCO World Wide treaty arrangement agreement. That sounds long as sexuality as we know it. It's a long name for that because a sexual bots if they choose to even keep humanoids around. This debate was being held back in the 30s. Great.

Jordan (01:13:33.000)

So they chose there's an

Alex Jones (01:13:34.000)

attack around femininity, there's an attack on masculinity. There's an attack on the species and there's a revolution of women I've noticed waking up to this more than even men. There's a major trying to get back to the true nature of humanity and how empowering it is. Back to reality the twisted rope circling graph where they're under classical male masculinity, feminine femininity,

Jordan (01:13:58.000)

feminine Mimimi

Alex Jones (01:13:59.000)

the God The Goddess, the archetype Sure.

Dan (01:14:01.000)

So that's nonsense. Otter balderdash. The idea like I love that. th x y y z

Jordan (01:14:11.000)

1138 agreement World Association dominating balls by

Dan (01:14:17.000)

World Brave New World revisited UNESCO agreement

Jordan (01:14:21.000)

1984 through 1988 That's just

Dan (01:14:25.000)

word salad. He's just throwing a bunch of stuff there hoping that it sounds official. Yes. Secret treaties. What the fuck are you talking about? This is all nonsense. It and the fact that where he goes with it is like they're trying to attack masculinity and femininity. That's your take away from this article.

Jordan (01:14:44.000)

That's as far away from what? That's nowhere near it.

Dan (01:14:47.000)

What are you doing? Well, even rhetorically, that doesn't make sense. Like just from a position of like, okay, you're trying to make a bad argument. That's how you choose to do it. Weird. Weird. Anyway. Oh, Lex has another thing he wants to be he's high today you might be there's something he wants to point out that this trying to bolster his claims that maybe he

Jordan (01:15:09.000)

got that from with the inner with the venture interviews like man ventures really high and he kicked my ass I better get high maybe if I'm high I'll be just as good or

Dan (01:15:18.000)

maybe it's the one time a year he smokes weed to test the potency could be before his Yeah. So here's he gets to the stage and is like, Oops, here's something real dicey.

Alex Jones (01:15:29.000)

And now it's come out that we're coverups, and that Sandusky Foundation was supplying children statewide.

Dan (01:15:37.000)

So this is one of Alex's big what this is one of his big arguments that you know, he talks about procure errs and stuff like that. Yeah. And you know, there was that Boystown situation that happened where there was definitively it had been proven that people were you know, taking these underprivileged kids and senators we're doing doing shit with them. Wow, you remember that night story but that conspiracy of silence Yeah, documentary that's fucked up. Yeah, it is super fucked up. But such has not been at all proven as it relates to Sandusky and his I believe it's called the second mile, something like that. His organization that was supporting youth. Yeah, it was trying to get kids to play sports. But obviously it was a way for him to groom. Yeah, he was just doing kids. Yeah. Right. So I mean, there are a lot of problems with it, but it doesn't procure there's no indication of that at all investigations have been done. And like past investigations have shown as in the case of the Boystown situation that that was what was going on. In this case, there is no indication so I looked into it and tried to find where is this stuff coming from? And I think I figured it out. And that is that allegations that Sandusky was pimping out children come from a radio host named Mark Madden, who includes actually

Jordan (01:16:52.000)

Larry Nichols with a mustache on might

Dan (01:16:54.000)

as well yeah, he in 2011 said quote, I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen. I hear there's a rumor that there may be more shocking development from the second mile foundation and hold on to your stomach boys because this is gross. I will use the language I can that Sandusky in the second mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors that was being investigated by two prominent colonists even as I speak. How does that sentence start? I have a rumor. So when he was pressed on it, he said this. I normally abhor giving rumors credence, but the whole Sandusky scandal started out as a rumor, it gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. It's a rumor. It's a rumor that some radio host put out into the world and Alex Jones has been peddling his entire worldview about these pedophiles and the REN fields and Dracula's basically on this, this is pizza gate shit. This is that level of like internet marberry the idea like I'm not trying to defend Sandusky or Joe Paterno, or anybody involved in this. They're all fucking awful monsters. No, I hope they all die twice. Absolutely. And clearly indications have come out the Joe Paterno was aware of this dating back to the seven Yeah, he knew like he's not innocent in any of this. So I'm not at all giving them a pass. What I am saying is it's irresponsible journalism on Alex Jones as part to try and create this broader spiderweb that's going on when in the truth. It's just, it's just a monster we can tell is it's one monster who is looking for his own victims. Yeah. So I I don't think in terms of official information. And maybe maybe there is something out there that I'm unaware of. And if that's the case, please feel free to tell me, but from what I've been able to glean the idea that there was procurement and pimping out of these children goes back to rumours as opposed to actual truth. Yeah. And like Alex, you got to do better, you got to do better. I understand that you want to launch conspiracy theories, and you want people to distrust mainstream narratives. You can't you can't just do this you really sensationalized a real problem to the point where you lose your credibility about that real problem right.

Jordan (01:19:06.000)

And but the problem the problem on for defend or for you know, defeating his argument there means you do have to kind of take Sandusky side and saying you know, he was a monster but at least he didn't pure procure kids like that's, that's such an awful place to be. I'm not like like Sandusky is not going to sue him for libel. No, you know, that's not gonna happen, even though he could win. Possibly, you know, but I mean, but you're not gonna You don't want to do this.

Dan (01:19:39.000)

Like you don't have the responsibility to prove the negatives. Yeah, he wouldn't have to in court prove that he's never procured children for anybody. Alex would have to prove that he did.

Jordan (01:19:48.000)

But you would see the headline Sandusky sues Alex for libel and there's just like, that's fucking horrific. Yeah, nobody, nobody wants you to even be alive. We definitely don't want you to win a law lawsuit

Dan (01:20:00.000)

against Alex that's

Jordan (01:20:03.000)

in a real pickle in a real bind.

Dan (01:20:07.000)

That's tough. I still, I'm glad it never happened. Yeah, exactly right. I don't want to deal with

Jordan (01:20:12.000)

that. But that's why he can make this argument so seriously, because nobody's nobody wants to be in that position. Oh, fuck you. Fuck Alex Jones. Fuck him. Fuck him. Amen. But this leaves look Sandusky Sure. And Paterno and fucking why are we here?

Dan (01:20:27.000)

I don't know. But anyway, all right. Alex Jones.

Jordan (01:20:30.000)

Why did you take me to this place?

Dan (01:20:31.000)

I don't know. Very angry. You know who else is angry?

Jordan (01:20:34.000)

Alex? Alex is angry.

Alex Jones (01:20:36.000)

And that's not talk. It's really easy to beat somebody's brains out. All right. decide to do it. Humans have a governor. You get in a fight with me. I don't have a governor. either. You're hurting me or hurting my children. I will decide to hurt you. I will will it I will punch you in the throat and then you can drown on your own blood. And people say that sounds evil and hateful. No, it doesn't. It's the right spirit against this type of garbage yet. Keep your filthy hands off our kids you perverts and that goes for those medical perverts that want to inject them with all these deadly vaccines. Ooh, boy.

Dan (01:21:08.000)

All right. Well, I mean, to some extent I kind of agree with that being the rage impulse that you would have

Jordan (01:21:13.000)

I think he just said he wasn't human. I think he just made doesn't have a gun but humans have governors. I don't have a governor I'm trying to

Dan (01:21:21.000)

logically well no are no longer human. Probably because of the brain damage he suffered as a child but entirely possible you that isn't May I get it. I get the idea of like, what you'd call a crime of passion where you find your kid being abused and you beat someone to death. I understand that. I get it. I get that reaction. I don't get Alex Jones is equating it with vaccines. I think that's troubling. The idea that these are medical perverts who want to shoot up your children right? Very weird, but I hate that I hate that. Like it's easy to beat someone's brains in the shit creepy shit. It's gonna get worse. Here's this next clip.

Alex Jones (01:21:58.000)

You should be attracted to help children and build them up and nurture them. Okay, good trapped into defending them like that. I'm attracted to wanting to get my hands around your throat. No. I'm attracted to you now you understand that? But not the way you imagine? Blows go break. Ah, yeah. Watch that evil fall to the ground. Excuse me, I shouldn't even be on here today reading this. I just I saw this last night. And I already knew it was all coming but oh, now we're going to be Peter phobes I mean just yet a pedophile loves Scott they're such they're gonna put drugs in the food water more intense. Where we barely can resist. I mean, it's just so ill. Everybody's gonna be dying of cancer all around us. Just with pot bellied pedophiles hopping around like it's Super Mario Brothers, you know grabbing our children giggling bouncing out of the backs with SWAT teams defending them as they just pick which kids they want. And as giant third world hordes just pour in raping everyone's rare I just sexualizing our children ruling every day debasing the currency ragging the food and water getting everyone cancer it just dancing to their god of death selling body parts chopping up babies that battle the scalpel? I mean, it's just it's just on hell on earth that gates are opening and out will flood the armies.

Dan (01:23:21.000)

I gotta say don't bring supermario into this

Jordan (01:23:26.000)

would be great. If nearing the end of the rant the exit music just

Dan (01:23:37.000)

dirt or, or whatever the death music is. Yeah, did it. So that's just a weird, like violent fantasy that Alex Jones is engaging in that I

Jordan (01:23:49.000)

jerk off to justified violent. Absolutely. And it's what they all fucking do. And you just want to kill somebody and they don't want to be in trouble.

Dan (01:23:55.000)

And he's pantomiming it to like he's throwing punches in the air and like, it's crazy. Yeah, this is I agree with him. He should not be on air today. But yeah, no kidding. Also, I want to say that I have I'm starting to figure out Alex Jones is pattern in terms of his manic episodes. Because now we've seen about three of them. He's about to get into one. Yeah. And so he's he's already ramping up. I think we can find his cycle. And oh, really? I think we can based on a couple past months. I think he is about like a 40 day cycler okay, I haven't figured it out. Exactly. And we're gonna need more evidence because one of them falls on when he was in a vacation he might have been freaking out in Europe right but

Jordan (01:24:37.000)

I'm about two months I'm about two and a half months something along those lines and people have

Dan (01:24:41.000)

different calendars is that go Yeah, but I think we're gonna be able to and then yet

Jordan (01:24:45.000)

stressors in there and you figure out your shit, but yeah, the cycle is about that.

Dan (01:24:49.000)

So Alex Jones is engaged in what is now a couple of very violent diatribes about pedophiles and how he wants to be people's brains. And I implore you To listen to this next clip, where he's responding to a caller talking about other civilizations having very low age of consent, look,

Alex Jones (01:25:08.000)

any old world culture, women got started getting married at 1314 15. Because technically you can say that they're a woman at that point, Western culture, we started arresting development to push it back to, you know, 18 or whatever. I personally think 16 is probably the proper age,

Dan (01:25:26.000)

huh? He thinks proper age of consent is 16. May I offer this? The age of consent in Texas is 17. So what Alex Jones is actually advocating is dropping of the age of consent. Well, yeah,

Jordan (01:25:41.000)

there are a lot of states where if you hate pedophiles, just make it harder to be one. Just make it mathematically harder.

Dan (01:25:49.000)

There are a number of states probably about 20 states or so where the age of consent is 16. But the rest of the country, it's 17, or 18. And that doesn't even get into the idea that there are different age of consent laws for heterosexual and homosexual sex, which is very weird. But be that as it may, what he's advocating

Jordan (01:26:06.000)

certain point, there should be different age of consent laws for every person, right? This whole thing is fucked up. There

Dan (01:26:11.000)

are very few states, there are a couple of where the age of consent is 15 or 14, which is wild.

Jordan (01:26:16.000)

Well, there are places where you can be legally married at 1413. And that's fine. Yeah, even though you're still below the age of consent. So

Dan (01:26:25.000)

there are a couple states, where Alex's Florida, Alex is 16 year old would bump it up, you know, from 15 to 60. Yeah, but largely what he'd be advocating is a drop of the age of consent. So he has this whole episode where he's like, these, these non acting pedophiles are lying and I want to beat their brains and and they're just gonna call me a pedophile, let's drop the age of consent.

Jordan (01:26:48.000)

Yeah, that's very weird. That's him more than negotiating with pedophiles somewhat. Yeah,

Dan (01:26:53.000)

but it's very weird. The idea that he doesn't, he doesn't see that these two things are sort of working against each other, sort of philosophically, and his other, his line should be hard. 18.

Jordan (01:27:04.000)

His other thing, though, is that he kind of suggests that Western culture, did it on purpose intentionally delayed, delayed human development,

Dan (01:27:15.000)

right? Not realizing it's sort of unforeseen byproduct of the agricultural revolution, or even

Jordan (01:27:20.000)

just why what is that mean? What argument is that? What do you mean that the idea that it was fine, that it was 13 or 15, back then, until Western cultures decided to?

Dan (01:27:37.000)

I don't know, I don't want to unpack it. I want to get out of this segment of the

Jordan (01:27:40.000)

show. I don't like it at all. Let's move gross.

Dan (01:27:42.000)

Let's move out. He's gross. Let's move out of this and move back to what is becoming incredibly familiar territory where a little bit later on the 22nd Alex Jones also says once again, that Putin is a good guy

Alex Jones (01:27:55.000)

show that's all coming up. And I'm gonna get into Putin deploys now 28 combat planes, it was for Syria. We've known for years, there's Russian troops. Now the news is like, okay, the Russians are really there. I mean, you read foreign news, it's all admitted. You read our news. It's like crazy, because they don't even want you to know that Putin keeps saying, for three years, join me in fighting al Qaeda join me in fighting ISIS. They won't even say it in our news. That's how ignorant the people are, because of the media to a great extent. Or now the media is like, yeah, Putin snuck in, he invaded Syria. Like he invaded Ukraine. Oh, my gosh, we got to do something. This is a huge provocation. When Putin spent on the world stage for at least three years saying, okay, he'll give up this chemical weapons he'll work with you will elect a new government. Well, let's bring in UN troops with US troops. Together, let's kick them out. Russia is ready for a joint deal. Bullshit. And they go No. and launch a chemical attack and blame it on Assad and Putin. I mean, I read newspapers, and it's just like, every day, there's an editorial with an editorial cartoon, where Putin is giving chemical weapons to Assad. It's just all made up. It's admitted al Qaeda launched those attacks.

Dan (01:29:08.000)

It's not but I mean, you would get that if you just read pro Russian media. So that is probably where a lot of that is. Yeah. If you're

Jordan (01:29:15.000)

saying that you think al Qaeda used chemical attacks instead of Assad? That is, that is so in denial of reality. Well, where he takes that from, which is why it would be from Russian. Yeah, he

Dan (01:29:28.000)

takes it from Russian media sources, like the ones we've discussed. He also takes it from there was that ambassador who has suspicious ties to Putin? I was like, yes, he's doing great in Syria. I know for a fact that Syria, the chemical weapon attacks were staged and Assad is a good guy. All right. I don't think that you are an unbiased source. Now. That's

Jordan (01:29:49.000)

the What's that the British guy?

Dan (01:29:51.000)

Yeah, yeah. So look, I mean, we were just seeing mountains of evidence piling up, that Alex thinks that we're The bad guys and Putin is the good guy. Yeah. And

Jordan (01:30:03.000)

and Hey Alex, one thing to say to you love it or leave it

Dan (01:30:07.000)

seems very anti America's not a big fan of America. So as we mentioned earlier, Alex has got this interview with diamond and silk. Yep. And here is a little excerpt where Alex Jones does not want to deal with the issues and wants to sound like characters from Steven Universe. He wants to inject misogyny into this interview. Why Check this shit out? Let

Jordan (01:30:30.000)

it go

Alex Jones (01:30:32.000)

show it's it's it's just policies It's why you let He's lucky now. Don't lie to me. Do you also think Donald's handsome?

Dimond and Silk (01:30:41.000)

Yes, he's handsome. But he's gonna be our next president. And that's what we're excited about. We want everybody forget about this media biasness in his propaganda, stop paying no attention, continue to stop for Trump because that's what we're gonna continue to do with him until we get him in that White House.

Dan (01:30:58.000)

So you get a little sense of like,

Jordan (01:31:00.000)

you guys want to have sex with Trump, because that's the only reason that women have any. Right? Fuck you.

Dan (01:31:08.000)

He's he brings it up twice. Actually, the first two times he asks, Are you hot for Trump? Now I'm not. I'm not saying this in any dismissive way. They really just keep saying we stopped for Trump. And just spouting catchphrase, right?

Jordan (01:31:23.000)

You got to do it and with your policies that excite him. The name name of Trump policy?

Dan (01:31:29.000)

None. None that excite me. Yeah, but that doesn't mean like, there's one lady who says all this stuff, she yells like we're gonna stop for Trump. He's gonna be the next president. And then the other lady just goes, That's right. She's the type of woman Yeah, and Alex can't handle it. Like it's a bad interview. It just, it's just he has them on to basically

Jordan (01:31:50.000)

be black and stump for Trump for Trump do both at the same time, and you win points.

Dan (01:31:55.000)

The idea that Alex Jones is having them on as a guest indicates to me that he recognizes that maybe they have an audience that he doesn't have maybe can tap into it,

Jordan (01:32:04.000)

or he's ended legitimizes it to his old white audience, so they don't feel guilt, right. It's all about not feeling guilt. Or if you see to black women, you go, Hey, I know all of these millions and millions of black people are telling me this. But look, we've got some too so it's not a racial thing,

Dan (01:32:23.000)

or my position is somewhat that he's already behind the scenes or subconsciously decided that he's going to jump into Trump's can and he's doing these things as test balloons. He's doing them as like putting his toe into the water right having these ladies who are so pro Trump on and knowing that you're not gonna get you're not having an interview. You're just letting them be on your platform,

Jordan (01:32:49.000)

right that that Disney challenge anything or ask them any questions, we

Dan (01:32:52.000)

ask some questions, but they're more like soft balls. Yeah, there is like little meat balls over the plate. Yeah, for them to yell so there's

Jordan (01:32:59.000)

no there's really no even like, like even his Why do you support Trump is just allowing them to say we we need to get them into the White House to bring prosperity is

Dan (01:33:07.000)

gonna bring jobs back. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, the no platitude.

Jordan (01:33:11.000)

No, how is he going to bring jobs back? No, no, of course not. No.

Dan (01:33:15.000)

And to me, that's an indication that he's already preparing his audience for the eventual twist that happened because I think he got a bunch of money at the money bomb, right. But be that as it may, this might bolster my claims. Here is Alex Jones, invalidating things he said about Trump in the past,

Alex Jones (01:33:32.000)

because I don't want people thinking I got money or something. I mean, they have created such incredible class envy in this country, it makes my head spin. And even people that are middle class now, get upset if somebody is better at sports to them or better business. I mean, I would think you would admire that person want to learn why they're successful. But this class warfare class enemy system is the death of this country, we've got to reverse it. And so for all of Donald Trump's problems, one of the positive things is at least he self made, he's got his problems, but at least he's self made. And he makes it okay to be successful again. Because that's the type of examples we need for children to believe they can become successful because more rich people that are free market means more wealth for everybody else, more economy. That's

Jordan (01:34:23.000)

patently untrue. Right? That's how we that's how it is. Now,

Dan (01:34:29.000)

that's how we got in this mess. Yeah, why do you but but but, but the reason that Alex Jones thinks that Trump is self made, is because they have similar backstories in the sense that Trump got bailed out over and over again by his super rich father, right. And has a Empire that's based on charade, wherein he is money laundering money laundering through businesses and making it appear that he is successful right. Alex Jones only has a career because his dad bought him array To show when he was younger by being his first sponsor, and giving him the perception of being self made, and you know, like building up all this stuff, and now he has an empire that's built on fake pills. Yeah. So like there is a pretty similar trajectory between the two of them, which I can understand Alex Jones, sort of seeing and relating to, and becoming enamored with. Yeah, I could see that. But at the same time, Alex, in the past had said that Trump is a con man, he said that he is a frontman for a consortium on the East Coast. He's mobbed up, he doesn't think that Trump is self made. No, that's stuff that he's said already on his show, within the last couple of months before this, this is complete, doubling back and contradicting things he said in the past. And to me, that is an indication that Alex has changed, something has changed. It's not just I'm not going to talk shit about Trump anymore. It's I'm going to lie. Whereas in the past, I said, What I actually thought

Jordan (01:36:01.000)

I, I have a counter thought. Maybe it is just the fact that that's been repeated so many times. It's possible, like Alex is a very suggestible hypnotizable. Young man, that's true. And that was Trump's narrative. That's what was put into every piece, every single thing, even if it's, even if it's like a CNN thing. It's like, Trump is a self made billionaire and all of this stuff, or he's a very good businessman, which is the narrative that they kept pushing. Yeah, that's true. That's why people want to vote for him is because they want a good businessman in the White House. And so Alex just hears it repeated over and over again, from places like Breitbart from all of these places. And maybe you just

Dan (01:36:48.000)

pro Russia. Yeah, exactly. So massively wanted him to win. Maybe he's just

Jordan (01:36:53.000)

dumb while he is. Yeah, certainly. So maybe it's just he, he can only hold a certain amount of information about a certain topic in his head at any time, right. And if you repeat stuff enough, you just push the old out.

Dan (01:37:07.000)

It's possible. I don't know. I have my assertion you have yours. We'll see what bears out over the course of you know, I'm not saying that yours is in any way like contradicted by what we learned two days from now. Okay, but I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. But this I'm going to skip this next clip, because it doesn't matter. Alex just lies about clean coal. He says that every every coal plant, you see those buildings below them, they're scrubbers, everything is getting scrubbed. Like as if they're taking all of the all of the fucking gases that are coming out. And there's just a Shamy

Jordan (01:37:41.000)

it's a coal wash. Yeah, you know, you put in 50 cents, you go right through the cycle, clean coal. Now,

Dan (01:37:47.000)

if you look into it at all, the clean coal stuff is a myth. All of the attempts at making clean coal power plants are wildly over budget take much longer to create. It's the it is not a success. The idea that every plant, coal plant is burning clean coal and everything you see coming out of the smokestacks. That's just water vapor. Yeah, it's such bullshit. Right? Alex has to know that's not true. That's that's the nicotine is good for you from the 50s. Right. Or John Boehner now. Yeah, exactly. Good point, or Mike Pence. Oh, God.

Jordan (01:38:20.000)

So this next we have we have gone back to when they wanted to go back to someone. I don't think anybody likes it.

Dan (01:38:25.000)

Alex Jones, at the end of this show on the 22nd gets a call from a guy that is I had a roller coaster with this guy. Because at the beginning of the call, he starts pointing out some very true things, such as Donald Trump's connection with Jeffrey Epstein noted pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein. Yes. Also, he talks about Bay rock, the real estate organization that is clearly involved with Trump and Russian mobs, right

Jordan (01:38:54.000)

and also the setting of Saved by the Bell. Yes.

Dan (01:38:57.000)

Then the call takes a weird turn and I can no longer support this guy. Okay, you'll see exactly where that happens as we

Alex Jones (01:39:04.000)

here we go. Well, you got the floor for three minutes. Go ahead.

Jesse Ventura (01:39:08.000)

Thank you. There's an old expression. Be careful of what you pray for. You might just get it and I think that's what we're heading for with Trump. You can judge a man by character by the company he keeps I'm sure you would agree with that. And Jeffrey Epstein, I'm sure your listeners know who this man is. He's a convicted sex offender kept company with the likes of Donald Trump Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz lower float really flew around an aircraft called the Lolita Express at 727. All around the world. Being implicated in a sex during child sex ring slavery investigation,

Alex Jones (01:39:44.000)

I know about the investigation, Trump hangs out with those folks while

Jesse Ventura (01:39:49.000)

also Trump's business partners a gentleman is in a consortium with BAE rock Group LLC, a property group that's partnered with the Trump Organization to build a Soho hotel condominium and a Trump Tower in Florida. He was arrested by Turkish police who swooped down on in helicopters on a yacht in the Mediterranean and found underage workers on board. So these are the types of people that Donald Trump is rubbing elbows with. So I don't endorse either Ron Paul, Rand Paul, any politician? I think they're all corrupt to the to the eyeballs.

Jordan (01:40:24.000)

All right. So I'm still I'm still here. So I didn't, I didn't quite like that last part as much. But I'm still here.

Dan (01:40:32.000)

Here is where it takes a hard turn. Oh, boy, this is jarring.

Jesse Ventura (01:40:36.000)

As far as people trying to judge your character, Alex, with mainstream media like Ceylon and mainstream media. I really think those are all again controlled by what I refer to is dying as jus media. And the same thing with politics. When you look at the politics, the US Congress, is primarily run by the American Israeli political action committee. That's that let's just call a spade a spade here. As far as technology is concerned, Boeing has an uninterruptible autopilot, which on their aircraft, which makes, which makes me think about 911. And it really makes me

Alex Jones (01:41:18.000)

both those aircrafts that hit the towers did did have that on them. And then Bush even gave a speech in a minute that, you know, there's no doubt a Jewish mafia. That's that's leftist. Wait, what many respects? There's definitely a right wing Jewish lobby as well. I don't say it's one big group, but certainly, of the Big Four lobbies. Pac lobby is one of them. And I have a serious problem with a foreign power, manipulating our internal politics, be it Israel being England, to China, anybody at Saudi Arabia show I hear what you're saying.

Dan (01:41:52.000)

This is why people like David Duke, and people who are anti semitic bigots, count Alex Jones as one of their own. This guy just said, these attacks against you in salon and these places are just Zionist Jews. And Alex doesn't push back on that at all.

Jordan (01:42:13.000)

You're right. There is a Jewish mafia on the left. On the right. It's just a lobby. Right. It's a mafia on the left, though, right. Everybody knows that. On the left, it's mafias. Wow.

Dan (01:42:24.000)

This is why there is no difference between forces of anti semitism and Alex Jones his audience. Wow. Yeah.

Jordan (01:42:33.000)

I don't like Donald Trump, because of the Jews.

Dan (01:42:37.000)

Well, I mean, he brought up other valid points, which is the problem. That's why that's such a roller coaster. It's like this guy is a fucking weirdo, asshole, anti semitic oriented guy. But Jeffrey Epstein and Trump did hang out, right. They have had a history together. And Epstein is a fucking pedophile, and he's in prison. Right? He was a billionaire who hung out with people like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Absolutely there. That's just you can't get around that Alex now only talks about the bill clinton part whenever he talks about Epstein way of touring the Clintons. Yeah, no, no, don't

Jordan (01:43:08.000)

worry about the Trump part completely

Dan (01:43:09.000)

forgetting about that being a piece of this, then talking about Bay rock and Soho hotel and Felix Seder. Like these are legitimate pieces of what I hope and I think will become a very ugly investigation that will become public.

Jordan (01:43:24.000)

And those are the consortiums that Alex was himself was talking about. And now he's just like, Ah, yes, the juice. I'm with you. Yeah, so

Dan (01:43:34.000)

that's the problem with that call is like he brings up a couple of really valid points and then invalidates himself entirely by blaming Zionist Jews for everything. But Alex can argue with it, because it's really what he believes to just under a different banner. So we're gonna skip the 23rd because I just don't care. Okay, what happened the 23rd? Well, at the end of the 22nd, he goes to a David Knight report. He's out on the field covering the Pope. And then the 23rd is largely just there's a lot of Pope shit. He's just railing on the pope saying he's a devil. And all this.

Jordan (01:44:07.000)

There's a couple guys make him feel better. He probably had a headache that day.

Dan (01:44:10.000)

He fakes crying at one point for the plight of the poor people in the world, which is really it's pretty funny, but not necessary to go over. He has a long interview with Peter Schiff, The Economist whose dad is in prison for not paying taxes, never pay taxes. It's a crime. They talk about how it's basically just an interview about how his dad is a political prisoner. And they never bring up the fact that he didn't pay taxes on millions of dollars and millions of taxes that he owed, and that he got a lot of other people arrested because he told them to do the same thing. Yeah, they just say he's in prison because he wrote a

Jordan (01:44:44.000)

book. Yeah, well, he had a copy of the Constitution in his pocket, right. It's you Harlow tips

Dan (01:44:50.000)

as a human I feel bad for Peter Schiff. And having to deal with his dad being sick in prison. That is a human thing that is is very sad, but at the same time, I can't excuse him going on Alex Jones's show and using his dad's sickness in prison and clear crimes, as, you know, propaganda fodder, is he trying to get money? Now? He's trying to get the prison system and like investigated it. He's trying to cause all kinds of like, we need to do an investigation, we would need to use taxpayer funds to do that. There's a couple of times. I can't tell if he's joking about breaking his dad out of prison. I can't quite tell it's a fine line. You really have to break them out. Beyond that, Alex Jones asserts that the California drought is a false flag.

Jordan (01:45:38.000)

Well, he does want to put him into a private prison. That's the he doesn't like the taxpayers paying for his debt. Right. That's what he ate. Well, I guess

Dan (01:45:45.000)

that would be I mean, that is in line with his philosophies. But you just glossed over me saying that California's drought is a false flag because they're using whether weapons

Jordan (01:45:57.000)

those just go right in through one ear and out through the other. Oh, of course, it's a false flag. Yeah, absolutely.

Dan (01:46:01.000)

Also, there's there's some talk about whether weapons and then Alex Jones asserts two things that are wild one is that Mel Gibson was set up, because

Jordan (01:46:15.000)

did he get set up? How did he get set up? He doesn't go into the how do you set somebody up for an anti semitic rant

Dan (01:46:22.000)

after being pulled over for drunk driving? Yeah, what do you I don't know. I

Jordan (01:46:25.000)

guess they did they get him drunk. They dose them. They dosed him. Okay. All right. But the reason is because cover your drinks, anti Semites, then you might get you might get told to talk.

Dan (01:46:34.000)

The reason that they set him up was because he's critical of the Vatican. So all right, that's why I'll I'm not even going to engage with that. The other thing he wants Alex asserts is that Germany was the victim in World War One and two, which if you're talking about like just the mainstream population, maybe but if you're talking about the country as a whole than the government's not too much.

Jordan (01:46:56.000)

That's not good. Doesn't smell that's not good. I don't like that. So he's, he's a he's a very short step away from being a Holocaust denier.

Dan (01:47:03.000)

No, we already went over it in the last episode, like a full one. Not not like not like is half half bullshit. Holocaust revisionists? Yeah, that's bad enough. That's

Jordan (01:47:12.000)

true. I did call those Holocaust deniers to deny Yeah, I did make that point. Yeah.

Dan (01:47:17.000)

So that's all that's all fucked. And then they do have another field report with Jakari Jackson and David Knight following the poke around.

Jordan (01:47:25.000)

But it sounds like a fun buddy comedy.

Dan (01:47:28.000)

It would be so far.

Jordan (01:47:31.000)

Too, they go out to eat afterwards.

Dan (01:47:33.000)

They must. Yeah, they can never appear on camera together because they're the people they're doing live stuff. It's always like David knights there. And like we'll check in with Jakari later. They're obviously at the same place. They're just

Jordan (01:47:49.000)

switching the camera. We'll check in with Jakari and the time it takes me to handle my phone

Dan (01:47:54.000)

ride. You raised a million dollars for this Alex, you're doing great work. So we get on to the 24th and I want to know

Jordan (01:47:59.000)

what their account do they stay in a motel together? Like do they have separate beds? They bunk it? They bunk it. So are they camping? I want them to be so great oh man like an easy writer but the most boring version of it

Dan (01:48:12.000)

just David Knight impression his boring ass. I want to give you a treat because a lot of this is not very pleasant. And so this next clip is my gift to you. It is one of the few times that in these rebroadcast episodes I'm able to get access to they keep him some of Alex Jones is karaoke

Jordan (01:48:34.000)

oh yay.

Dan (01:48:36.000)

Let's listen to him rocking out to quiet riot

Alex Jones (01:48:41.000)

you know the fortune that I want is liberty and freedom and a system based on empowering humanity. The globalist want inverted power over people to dumb them down. I'm in the camp that wants the power to be free the power to have the globalist off my back wait for it isn't that guitar as Randy rose

Alex Jones (01:49:08.000)

i really want to be overrated

Jordan (01:49:17.000)

Why are you making the sock creepy veiners creepy

Alex Jones (01:49:24.000)

something so beautiful. I got a tear in my eye or something so ugly I do as well. I guess I am is I am weeper early weep though. I just get tears in my eyes bang your head come in on the right Goddamnit either stop it right now. I apologize on the quit right there.

Dan (01:49:49.000)

I love it. First of all, we have not done a good enough job pointing out how often he apologizes. Yeah, whenever he does anything fun. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was interesting for a minute. Yeah. That's just great. I want to be totally clear. I didn't turn up the audio that was the person on the board. Yeah. In the studio. Oh, definitely. Alex was doing like a, an the parts where he's not talking. He's just rocking. Yeah, he's bang in his head. It's in the song title. So on the 24th There's a lot of stuff. I mean, it's more like I'm telling you this week is all pope is all anti Pope stuff. That is mostly what he's into. He talks about how Okay, so when the Pope came, a young Hispanic girl came up to the Pope and gave him a letter asking that her family not be deported, and urging like clemency about immigrants. What have you. Yeah, it obviously is probably a photo op of some sort. I mean, even us, we don't think that there's necessarily that is a genuine moment now. But at the same time, it's beautiful. And I don't think it's something nefarious, but Alex Jones does, he thinks it's globalists. And they're pushing Chile, open borders, propaganda course globalist pope is in on it. Right. Right. And what have you, it's interesting

Jordan (01:51:05.000)

to note that he prefers the, the Nazi Pope, right? He definitely pervert the Nazi youth being pope.

Dan (01:51:15.000)

And they argue that the only reason that he got out and we got this Pope Francis in was because of the pedophile blackmail, right? Right against the Nazi Pope.

Jordan (01:51:25.000)

Well, that's why Sebastian Gorka is gonna be the next pope after after

Dan (01:51:29.000)

the cool Pope, I would assume so suddenly Nazi lineage. So beyond that, he talks about how Edward Snowden is a hero and Trump is wrong about him, which is an interesting read. I appreciate that I withhold judgment, but generally agree. He also talks about how the kid who came to school made a clock,

Jordan (01:51:47.000)

you remember that? Yes, I do recall that. And it was a bomb. It's

Dan (01:51:51.000)

a false flag.

Dimond and Silk (01:51:52.000)

How could that be a false

Dan (01:51:54.000)

flag it because it wasn't a bomb. I know it wasn't a bomb, but he made it look like a bomb. So the government, but he made it look like a bomb so that the police would have to get involved. And then it would become this PR stunt that people could demonize the anti immigrant forces. With this publicity stunt. That's just a bad plan. It's a bad plan. And it's a long way to go. Yeah. So

Jordan (01:52:16.000)

there are so many easier ways to demonize the anti immigrant people, such as by using their actions and words.

Dan (01:52:22.000)

Yeah. Also, Alex Jones claims that he's going to prove on this show that whether weapons are real, and insulin, and that he's right about all this stuff. He's like, we talk about it all the time. And I'm gonna lay it out. So he has a guest at the end of the show named Dave Wigington. And I haven't I haven't kept any of this in because it is the lamest fucking interview I've ever heard. It's all like, there's no sources of stuff. There's just vague mentions of chemtrails and stuff that we've already discussed, that Alex is lying about, right? So I don't even care but I do love it when he's like, I'm going to prove it

Jordan (01:52:58.000)

right it doesn't and then does nothing of the sort. He claims that the globe really want weather weapons to exist. He claims

Dan (01:53:03.000)

that the globalist have been able to create steer and destroy hurricanes dating back to Vietnam when of course, we were fighting beetle beetles, beetle beings. The Tet the tent species not mix up Alex Jones that's that's ROBERT No, that wasn't even Robert De No,

Jordan (01:53:20.000)

that was that was our girl Kerry Kerry Cassidy and her source the the hypnotized via

Dan (01:53:27.000)

Vietnam that Yes. So now we get to this Alex Jones in pursuit of his attacking the Pope has an interview with Leo's Egami This is the first time I believe Zagami I believe it was the first time Zagami has actually been on the show. Right? We've talked about him before because of I don't know why we talked about him. Oh, six popped up in some other. Who cares?

Jordan (01:53:51.000)

ICEX rumors. Oh, the Cardinals having the big sex orgy.

Dan (01:53:55.000)

But that's in present day. That's in 2017. Oh, that's

Jordan (01:53:59.000)

in 2017. Yeah. So this is pre Cardinals having origin? Yes.

Dan (01:54:03.000)

Yes. Okay. That was where my brain was having this difficult time. Right? When was we

Jordan (01:54:08.000)

are jumping back and forth in time. This is this is why, you know,

Dan (01:54:14.000)

we need our consciousness is one that is that Alex Jones is wrong in both timelines. This

Jordan (01:54:18.000)

is why HG Wells had some struggles later on in life.

Dan (01:54:21.000)

Science fiction is just the fantasies of men. Anyway. That's an Alex Jones quote. I know. I know. Fantastic Shakespeare. We've dropped that bit. hasn't said Shakespeare too much. That's true. So he has Leo's Egami on and one quote that Zagami has a is really difficult. And that is that he's saying that everything that he has and everything he knows is documented. But he isn't Vatican insider so he can get these documents that are very difficult to get which is very convenient of weight.

Jordan (01:54:56.000)

They are documented, right? He doesn't have them Nope. But he can get them. Yes. Has he seen them?

Dan (01:55:03.000)

Yes. Okay, allegedly, because he's such an insider. Right now I'm gonna play this clip of Leo's Egami, explaining the beginnings of his waking up to the truth. And I believe if you listen carefully, you'll see that maybe he's not on the level. And maybe Alex Jones just believes people who agree with what he believes in and have an accent. I think that there's something there's a little credibility that Leo's Egami gets because he's kind of sexy. Yeah. So you listen to this show, briefly.

Alex Jones (01:55:33.000)

Tell us about yourself how you woke up, then? Are they getting stronger? Are they getting weaker? Who runs the Vatican?

Leo Zagami (01:55:40.000)

Well, actually, how woke up? You are probably one of the reasons why in the year 2000 2001, I started to wonder what was really going on behind the scenes, because even amongst our immediate amongst the network of Masonic network and of other secret societies, when we saw the Bohemian Grove, it created a debate I remember myself discussing in lodge in London, you're a documentary, and they actually facing some of the master there and telling them what is this? I mean, how it goes and participate in what the leaders are involved with something like this. And of course, this inspiration that you gave me, at one point, put me in front of the reality of what I had in these lodges in these secret societies that I was involved in and I decided that I didn't no longer wanted to be involved, especially when I discovered some of their secrets

Dan (01:56:41.000)

were discovered some of their secrets. So

Jordan (01:56:46.000)

look, real close into stereotypical look, nyan discovers of others, ie grids.

Dan (01:56:52.000)

I didn't mean. So look, Leo's Gami. His whole backstory that he is fleshed out on like Project Camelot interviews, and his own biography is that he was a high ranking member of the Illuminati. He was a part of the real powerful Illuminati. And on Alex Jones's show,

Jordan (01:57:13.000)

he's saying 2000 2001 I started listening to you, Alex,

Dan (01:57:18.000)

I saw your bullshit documentary about Bohemian Grove and I was like, hold on. Yeah, you are part of the Illuminati. What the

Jordan (01:57:27.000)

Illuminati didn't tell you. You said you were a high ranking member of the Illuminati now that's are they keeping stuff away from the US Army?

Dan (01:57:35.000)

That's the problem. That's where people get slippery. And they're like, everything's compartmentalized. Right, left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing worse. Like Alex Jones told the truth about an organization I was a major part of.

Jordan (01:57:46.000)

And that's what that's why he doesn't want to be part of that organization anymore.

Dan (01:57:50.000)

I mean, he's lying about his past. First of all, that's just he's definitely lying about Alex. I think he's buttering him up a little. Oh, absolutely. Because he realizes like, this is an outlet where I can boost my book sales, and I'm getting more Oh, yeah. I think Alex Jones doesn't realize how many of his guests are opportunistic assholes who are using him. But be that as it may, Leo's Egami saying that is so invalidating of any of his positions, like you are the reason I woke up, use a Gommi. So anyway, they just talked about all of this just talks here on the pope about all the

Jordan (01:58:23.000)

stuff that he said to Alex about what he that is a cursory Wikipedia search. Absolutely. You know, like, Oh, I know that you started a little bit before then I saw on the first biography page, he came to prominence because of the Bohemian Grove, dun, dun dun. Now I can just roll from there. Can

Dan (01:58:42.000)

I pause it? And he did.

Jordan (01:58:44.000)

Can I pause it slightly more research than Alex did on him? Can

Dan (01:58:47.000)

I can I pause it and alternative? What's that? I think it's entirely possible that Leo's Egami the human was just a guy in Italy, and did see Alex Jones's documentary in 2000 and started to become weird. And then he concocted this backstory that he was a high ranking Illuminati member, okay, in order to gain credibility within the worldview that Alex had exposed him too. All right, because it was the burgeoning internet community of distrustful weirdos and conspiracy theorists. No,

Jordan (01:59:18.000)

it is entirely possible that he could have found Alex at that time, right? No. And this entire

Dan (01:59:22.000)

backstory of being a Vatican Insider, and all this is just the reaction to seeing Alex Jones. All right, that part might actually be true. It's impossible for us to know. But that is a story that I think fits the Occam's razor. Now Yeah, I

Jordan (01:59:39.000)

think it's just a matter of which of timing like, is he it that he finds out about Alex Jones in order to go on his show and talk shit, or does he created his entire story out of what he thought he saw in the Bohemian Grove? Right, like, was it a self generated thing that like, was he just hallucinating the whole thing? I will tell you do you think he's completely out and out? Lying,

Dan (02:00:00.000)

I will tell you what I don't believe is possible. And that is his what he just said. Yeah, I don't think that's possible. Of course not. But be that as it may, we gotta move along to this next clip Jordan, and this is the, you know, just more evidence that Alex Jones is pretty into Putin.

Jordan (02:00:19.000)

I love it the study

Alex Jones (02:00:20.000)

Putin, he's obviously a hardcore guy, but he's trying to promote family Trump without having kids there. They don't put fluoride in the water, not his best friends and newscaster Emma skip his break last one of the day propaganda, his best friends in his castle, that basically sounds like my show. And I've been told not good of RT America years ago, the State Department didn't want me on there anymore, which is fine. It's not that big of a deal. That they were upset that I was on there. And that basically, the directors of our tea, both in Russia and here are huge listeners. And I was told this by their producers by their top people and told us in LA I'm just gonna leave it at that. Were they one of their main offices, and that the Russian government actually watches this show. Now imagine you're told this is not a way to flatter me or get me to support them? I'm not they don't need me. I'm just promoting anti anti globalism, which,

Jordan (02:01:09.000)

obviously what that is, that is exactly what it

Dan (02:01:12.000)

is. Alex doesn't understand the idea of like cultivation of assets and stuff like that. It's right out of the Russian spy playbook.

Dimond and Silk (02:01:22.000)

It's right out of

Jordan (02:01:24.000)

my playbook to become friends with people like

Dan (02:01:29.000)

this podcast started.

Jordan (02:01:33.000)

So I wanted you to think I was cool. That was it. Yeah.

Dan (02:01:36.000)

Alex, not good at all. Like again, like Zagami manipulating him in order to bolster his credentials. He doesn't understand that the Russian people the Russian propagandists are doing that with him. He reached its logical conclusion with with the Alexander Dugan Yeah, of course. So he

Jordan (02:01:53.000)

knows it's not that they're trying to butter him up, right? Because they said, We're not trying to butter you

Dan (02:01:59.000)

up. We gotta take them at face value. Exactly. I can't know what lies in the hearts of men.

Jordan (02:02:04.000)

Putin said he didn't interfere in the in the election. So obviously, it must be true. I can't imagine a guy like Putin. lyin No,

Dan (02:02:12.000)

this goes on, allows Russia

Alex Jones (02:02:15.000)

to continue on. I mean, I want Russia to be there. I want America to be there. I want diversity and countries. I want sovereignty. I'm just a patriot for humanity and Patriot for sovereignty, a patriot for due process, a patriot for firewalls to tyranny. That's what countries are, yeah. Six, seven years ago, I thought, Oh, you're just wanting me to, you know, be flattered. So I support you. They're like, No, no, we're not. And now I've seen those Russians are in awe. Every time they came here. Then I've seen now out of Russian television. It's like it's Alex Jones on Russian TV. Oh, looks like the Russians might have caught an anti New World Order bug. I know that Putin started secretly meeting with Alexandra Schultz and he spent a lot reportedly apologize to him. Now he's become a big Orthodox Christian, like underground and thinks she's got a you know, shaved Christendom? Or is that he was he exploded? Or is just how God works in mysterious ways.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:11.000)

What the fuck?

Jordan (02:03:13.000)

I look at Russian and it's becoming a look at Russian news. And it's becoming a lot like Infowars is not a statement. I like to hear

Dan (02:03:20.000)

no. And then he's taking all this stuff from Russian official outlets that glorify Putin that say he's a secret Christian, and he's trying to defend Christendom. This is insane. This is totally nuts. And Alex believes all of it.

Jordan (02:03:37.000)

Yeah. Well, they said nice things about him. Right? Absolutely. And you say nice things about Alex. That means you're on the level. So Alex can trust whatever it is you say. He's a mix of a wide eyed, idiotic child and a complete Nutter narcissist. So he'll believe anything, so long as it makes him look nice. We should

Dan (02:03:58.000)

flatter him and see if he'll retweet us. Oh, I bet he would want to try that. Yeah, I'm gonna try it. But anyway, yeah, that's crazy. And that's out now. regurgitation of Russian propaganda. So Alex, he rails about people saying that he's a Russian agent. I don't think anyone believes that. But what you did just there is what people are talking about. Yeah, that's just out and out. Pro Putin Russian propaganda that is not based in reality. Now we're done with the 24th 24th is behind us. We move on to September 25. When I believe Alex Jones has a manic episode begins in earnest. In I think what kicked it off, is that on the 25th, it was announced that John Boehner was stepping down as the speaker. So Alex thinks that he did it.

Jordan (02:04:45.000)

Alex thinks that Alex defeated John Boehner Yes, single handedly. Well, that

Dan (02:04:50.000)

single handedly because a couple months back he had a guy named Walter Jones on who is a member of Congress who was trying to vacate the chair and trying to get John Ain't are out. Alex had him on the show that did an interview and ergo Alex takes responsibility and thinks that we did it. He is becoming a little bit into his power. He's starting to think that he has there's delusions of grandeur that are going on, not recognizing that I think John Boehner probably smelled what was in the air and realized he could make millions of dollars as a fucking lobbyist with far less stress. And he didn't want to be a part of the coming Trump storm. Probably a smart move. If you really look at the people who have come out of this. The best Boehner is up there. Yeah, that's true. Because no one hates him anymore.

Jordan (02:05:33.000)

Nope. And we've moved on. Yeah, we got bigger fish to fry. Way worse. Yeah, right now. Yeah, we traded one orange monster for a worse one.

Dan (02:05:43.000)

It is an incredibly smart move, if all you're doing is looking out for profit and self preservation to have left when he did. And he did. You left. Now Alex pitches it as he was getting pressure from Walter Jones and his cadre of weirdos within the house. And that Alex Jones by pushing it on the on the Liberty program that is Infowars that they made it happen, which is a little bit wild. But what actually is motivating it even more, is that Alex Jones has gotten a tip from somebody that I don't believe is credible. And it's feeding into his victim mentality, as well as his sort of Messiah Complex. And I'll let him spell it out. In this next clip.

Alex Jones (02:06:30.000)

I caught myself this morning after I did some elliptical lifting weights. Absolutely enthusiastic and happy and proud of myself and satisfied to a degree that I have never been.

Dan (02:06:45.000)

I want to just stop right there.

Jordan (02:06:46.000)

weird way to start.

Dan (02:06:47.000)

I want to stop right there for just one second and explain that that's what happens when you exercise

Dan (02:06:56.000)

that's just endorphins. I look like a bag of trash. But I ride my bike for an hour and I go look myself in the mirror covered in sweat. I'm like God dammit, I'm doing it. That's usually what happens when you don't exercise and you exercise. Right? So anyway, Alex, is it something bigger?

Jordan (02:07:13.000)

He's figured it out?

Alex Jones (02:07:14.000)

I felt so manly little boy show honorable show good that my conscience was giving me a type of energy I've never felt in my life. Is that a thing? The conscience does know. I've got some of the news in the last year and more news yesterday confirming it. That there's a major FBI White Collar Crime Task Force directly under Obama and the Justice Department, the Attorney General, with upwards of 20 people working 15 hours a day to find out some way to put me in prison. And to shut down Infowars

Dan (02:07:56.000)

let me just say that that is a waste of money. Yeah, there. There's no way even if Obama was concerned with Alex Jones, there's no way that they're paying the salary of 20 Fucking agents to work around the clock overtime. 15 hours a day. Yeah, in order for years trying to back down time and a half. Just give us a couple grand a month and we'll do it. Yeah,

Jordan (02:08:22.000)

I was gonna say you don't need that. You don't need a lot of research.

Dan (02:08:25.000)

No, you just need someone who's listening. Yeah, you just need someone disseminating what he's actually saying. Right? And that will take him down eventually, you would think because he's gonna bring himself down. Everyone. Everyone knows that Obama wouldn't even fucking swat at Alex, if he was a fly on the wall. Like, that's so crazy. But this is the delusions of grandeur. This is the manic episode coming out. Someone told him that. And he's decided that this guy is credible, right? In the same way that Leo's Egami tells him all this shit about the Pope. He's like, Oh, well, you're on the same page as me who must be right for caller calls in and tells him something and becomes gospel.

Jordan (02:09:02.000)

Well, you can measure yourself by the enemies that you have. And if the President is spending all of those people all of that man hour on to you, that gives you that sense of Grand Jury wars. And so that is another one of those things where if somebody tells him that that builds into his own legend, yeah, it makes him feel good to

Dan (02:09:23.000)

believe you and is like communicated on to his audience that you're a part of this. You were you're a part of this really dangerous movement. And it's all about boys. It's all bullshit, like the proud boys, right? So he goes on. And this is like, this is delusional. I knew

Alex Jones (02:09:41.000)

launching a TV network that's going to grow slowly and just be a new avenue in their dinosaur brains would really freak them out and scare him and it certainly has. But thinking about my forebears thinking about the founding fathers thinking about the founders of Texas, thinking about my ancestors in England and the things they did, I just really in my gut in my spirit understood that I was beginning to approach the stairs to their ranks. And that's the most valuable thing in the world. It didn't fancy cars or big houses or hot tubs or Caribbean beaches that matter in the final equation. It is being honorable. It is standing up for what's right. It's being a good person. And it is upholding your family name.

Dan (02:10:32.000)

Okay. All right, whatever. Like he really thinks he's beginning this hero's journey. He thinks that he is like, he's wielding Excalibur. He's going on this adventure climbing the stairs to legend. Like, that's crazy.

Jordan (02:10:47.000)

Well, that's what everybody feels like when they start their own independent TV network. That's what you feel when you're in a manic episode. If we started our own independent TV network, I think I know exactly how I would feel like that

Dan (02:10:58.000)

I would feel overwhelmed with detail. I would feel very nervous. But that mean, I would feel like a Founding Father, this is the same thing that a couple months back, Alex Jones was spouting when he had that night long vision dream. Oh, yeah, that's right. This is where we can sort of get a sense of when his brain chemistry goes off. We can get these sort of, you know, it's not exact science, and we're diagnosing him, not as doctors or any ethical way. But none. But you see discrete changes in his brain state. And this is a hallmark, this delusions of grandeur pops up about around as best I can tell every 40 days or 80 days if he wasn't freaking out when he was in Europe, right? So I'm going to keep track of it. I'm gonna see what happens about 40 days after this right? And I'll report back if my assessment is correct. And if so,

Jordan (02:11:53.000)

I the end, if if he doesn't have an episode within you know, about a month or so we know he's pregnant, right? Or we

Dan (02:12:00.000)

just have to re calibrate our timeframe, because then the Europe trip really comes into the equation. But I'm telling you, this is manic shit real hard. And it spills into this next clip, which I think Alex Jones is trying out a new rhetoric or like rhetorical style, a new manner of speaking, that I think he associates with, I would say you probably associated with Malcolm X, I would say that he's probably trying to mirror revolutionary speakers. And it doesn't work.

Jordan (02:12:32.000)

You're Che Guevara is and whatnot, it just doesn't work. But

Dan (02:12:35.000)

I'll let you decide.

Alex Jones (02:12:36.000)

And I can really say I am free. I knew when I crossed the threshold, bull Horning Bilderberg in 2006. And they sent Richard Holbrook out. When I did it, I could feel I was passing a line to another level of opportunity for freedom, but also danger. And I loved every minute of it. And I passed other lions as well. But launching a TV network that will take years to grow, is only assigned to them to remind them of the indomitable human spirit that refuses to submit, it only reminds them of human empowerment, and empowered individuals. And

Dan (02:13:21.000)

I want to pause right there because that the human spirit that refuses to submit gives a good gives a good race of the face to God. But he's also directly quoting himself from waking life. Yeah, that is a line for line. His speech in waking life, which is kind of like his past self coming out in his present self, which is super weird, because they're very different people. Yeah. But be that as the

Alex Jones (02:13:46.000)

fact that we don't cower in fear to the system. They can't stand that. And so they know full well, if word gets to me and what's going on. I'll come on here and talk about it and they think you're cowards, and that you're then going to roll over and fear and not become involved. Because oh my gosh, the big bad government might come get you. Let me explain something. We've gone from one and 25,000 to one and 58 with autism, the CDC saying by 2025, one and three, maybe one and two. No, they already came for us. They came for our kids. They already killed 55 million babies they are still alive shell their organs. They are still good people. For 60 years, massive IQ reductions, massive cancer increases. Harvard even admits it. They already came for us. We already got pancreatic cancer, liver cancer, cancer of the bladder cancer of the kidneys up multi 1,000% They already came for us. They already drove down our wages, shut off our power plants got rid of our jobs, destroyed our culture. And now we're on the news again. This time mainstream British newspapers legitimizing pedophilia, yesterday, they already came to feel you're on TV, as if it's good Good. They already came for us already. Gosh, we're already

Dan (02:15:04.000)

see that. Yeah, that's yeah, the repetition right there. Yeah, that's a speech pattern that is foreign. Oh, yeah. No, that's so good. He imagines like his entire audience be like, Yeah, every time he said he came course, of course imagining himself breach law. He thinks he's at a pulpit. Yeah. Like, that's basically what's going on there. It's it's delusional. And he's citing just complete misused statistics. Like, none of that is real. And he's misinterpreting articles. mainlining pedophilia, like everything is a lie. They've already came for us, in my bizarre conception, where I twist everything. Yeah, it's so bizarre, but I love it. Like in terms of me being an Alex Jones researcher, and like, I love the little things that are interesting. And when Alex Jones flips his speech pattern like that, that's crazy to me, because I've been listening to so much, Alex Jones. Yeah, he never defended.

Jordan (02:15:57.000)

If anybody knows when he changes his speech pattern. It's you. He never

Dan (02:16:01.000)

talks like that, using these tricks of repetition using this. It's almost like Chris Rock stand up. Yeah, like coming back to this, this thesis statement that you go, you drift off and come back to Yeah, it's a really powerful way to speak. It's great. Yeah, it doesn't. It's

Jordan (02:16:17.000)

a great rhetorical trick, but it doesn't work for Alex, wield it.

Dan (02:16:20.000)

It also is really important that you have an audience, like that response to it. Right, right. Like in the call and response does usually require a response, right? Like if you're some, you know, preacher, that repetition allows for people to cheer, right. And if you're Chris Brock, using it as a thesis statement that you repeat, it allows you to reset, but after everybody laughs You say the thesis and it reminds people what the joke is about what the bigger chunk is about. It's a skeleton ologies hang all of these things out just talking to them alone in a fucking studio. It doesn't work. If he had a caller on the line, it might be better. Because at least they can be like he was doing it well. Fucking diamond and silk were

Jordan (02:17:01.000)

on the phone. I would have been great that interview.

Dan (02:17:03.000)

I think they would be offended.

Jordan (02:17:05.000)

But are you talking like that? Because of us? Yeah. What's going on here? No, I apologize. I think you're I think you might be racist.

Dan (02:17:13.000)

I am. I apologize. It's not a race thing. I'm in a manic episode. Just losing my mind.

Jordan (02:17:18.000)

Do you think that change in speech pattern is emotional rather than kind of calculated there?

Dan (02:17:25.000)

He I think so. I think it's the spirit got good to him. In terms of thinking he took down John Boehner. Right. And then thinking that he's about to have the FBI crashed down on him with 20 agents that have been researching him for two years. Yeah, all this bullshit. I think that it's a lot of that, like he ain't he exercise that morning. So you know, that's right. He's got the testosterone

Jordan (02:17:47.000)

in there.

Dan (02:17:49.000)

The what is it? The dopamine receptors are kicking. You know, he's, he's a little bit of a euphoric state.

Jordan (02:17:57.000)

It's kind of it's kind of a struggle for me to listen to this, because I, I recognize so much of myself there, and it's like, oh, fuck, why am I empathizing with Alex gern.

Dan (02:18:10.000)

I know, it's tough. It's tough. But when you look at him as a human, there are things that you're forced to empathize with, that you may not want to but that does not excuse any of his lies, or his, you know, his beliefs that are bullshit.

Jordan (02:18:24.000)

Now I've managed, I've managed through all of my manic episodes, I have never once told people that vaccines cause autism or rewritten the Civil War. Yeah. And I've never the thing about him, especially in that little rant, right there is he is dehumanizing autistic people, like they came for us like autism is a punishment. Yeah, like autism is like, autistic people are still people. And the vast majority of them are great people

Dan (02:18:54.000)

and totally functional. Yeah. Yeah, they're,

Jordan (02:18:57.000)

they're wonderful. Yeah.

Dan (02:19:00.000)

He has a really twisted sort of belief about, you know, soft kills and what have you. Yeah, it's not worth

Jordan (02:19:06.000)

neurodiversity is also something worth celebrating there. It's not worth getting into

Dan (02:19:11.000)

here though, his stupid beliefs about it. Because I mean, we'll just be here all day, if we want to talk about everything that he has wrong about vaccines. Yeah. But be that as it may, he gets into this next thing. He has an interview with Walter Jones. And before that, he plays John Boehner speech, because there he goes live to CNN or whatever that's covering veiners resignation speech. And he does a little bit of a mystery science theater thing along with it. And he says this that I think is telling

CNN Reporter (02:19:42.000)

because if you remember that recent campaigns, everything down the road is to scare everybody. He would do this, the GOP would do that. And he embraced that problem was

Alex Jones (02:19:59.000)

you Unless any more of a turn that person always needing some money if they're doing the interviews. I'm sure I'm turning into Donald Trump here. Church, a great reporter. I don't know.

Dan (02:20:10.000)

Oh, boy. I'm turning into Donald Trump here

Jordan (02:20:12.000)

by making fun of a report a female reporter. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan (02:20:17.000)

So that's it wasn't a disabled reporter. But that is a slight recognition, I think, on his part cracking through his insanity to be like, starting to see myself and him a lot more. Yeah. Which is, which is trouble that, I mean, we know the inevitable outcome of what happens. I think that might be a part of it. Yeah. Alex's ego. So here's another paranoid fantasy that he has about how much the government cares about what he does, right. And it's manic as hell.

Alex Jones (02:20:45.000)

I mean, that's how corrupt this country is. You really think 96% of people, the Feds and data really guilty. You know, you really believe that. No, about half of them are completely innocent. Major studies, a third of people on death row didn't do it. DNA testing now shows. I remember the up in Round Rock. The prosecutor in Williamson County knew he was sending Michael Mortensen to present and knew he was innocent. The guy had no criminal record, his wife had been killed. Why would you discharge? I don't know why they do it. They just get off on putting good people in prison. I couldn't think of a more demonic thing to do. Other than like, sacrifice children or something.

Jordan (02:21:28.000)

Yeah, yeah, that is government that is more demonic,

Alex Jones (02:21:31.000)

that aren't corrupt, but they're like, in different divisions. So I only raised that show. We are big time. They know we're big time. They tried to assassinate my name, everything. They failed. show they're moving the ballgame. And under the FBI is credit. They were ordered by the Whitehouse According to multiple sources, two years ago, to dig up something and they couldn't. So then it went to the FTC and back to the FBI. And I'm two years into this. And I've just will they follow orders? I don't know. They've got a group out of DC reportedly have fallen over order they're given. So whatever. I'm not afraid. It'd be like saying, Are you afraid some kidnappers are gonna come? I mean, they're kidnappers. They're bad people. I mean, I'm not gonna live in fear of it. Okay, I know this. This is on record, I'm going to shoot I'm scared of a SWAT team, right or something like that, you know, that's what they're talking about doing just for the added media effect. We're not going to resist any of it. We're going to sit there and just be martyrs. We are politically and the whole thing will come out. See that

Dan (02:22:45.000)

is just him like wreck in recognition of his if you know, his history, it becomes so much more. He's fantasizing that it's going to be another Waco. Yeah, if they come, the FBI is going to come and SWAT team him,

Jordan (02:22:58.000)

of course, for the media effect. And he's gonna you know, how the media, you know, great that worked out for the government last time, that that optic of burning all of those people alive, but

Dan (02:23:08.000)

that's what he's evoking. That's what he's doing because he knows that his audience is also very pro Branch Davidian. Yeah. And what have you and anti government in terms of that, also, on this show, he flat out says, essentially, that he knows that he's leading an anti government group. That's true. Like he compares him to he's like, You don't think I know what I'm doing? George Washington knew what he was doing. I'm no different. That sort of thing is like, Oh, boy. Oh. Oh, so you're leading a revolution? Yeah. But your revolution is just anti government. That's fucked up.

Jordan (02:23:42.000)

I don't think I think those researchers are done. I think they just got there. I think they caught on it. You're Yeah. Yep. Let's let's get him in here on inciting violence

Dan (02:23:51.000)

we can take off early this Friday. Yeah. So it's a

Jordan (02:23:55.000)

good thing. We've been bleeding the government dry for a couple of years. Yeah.

Dan (02:23:59.000)

You gotta get your paycheck. Yeah. Right. So this is Friday's episode. And that's where our sort of analysis of stuff goes. And I've been remiss in pointing out that every day that we've been covering, they've been going to Jakari Jackson and David Knight following the pope around and Alex Jones has been talking so much wild shit about the Pope. He is making every show the focal point of it is Pope is a globalist. He is a demon. And he claims based on Lord monckton's research, who is a wacky dude who comes on Alex's show a bit. He said that if the pope gets his way, and they put in these carbon taxes, which nonsense. If the Pope is successful, a billion people will die based on Lord monckton's analysis, which is like, I don't believe any of these. Any of the little parts are a mess, and then you bring it into a hole. It's a huge mess.

Jordan (02:24:53.000)

If they if they implement a carbon tax, right. A billion people will Right. That's that's some big math Lord

Dan (02:25:02.000)

Monckton is good at math may have carried a one he has a Lord may have carried a one wrong. So but my point is that Alex Jones has for a week been shitting on the Pope. Yeah. Then on Sunday,

Jordan (02:25:13.000)

is it just is it just for like shock or just like it's a big enough target? And he's just got nothing else to talk about?

Dan (02:25:19.000)

It's hard to tell like, why

Jordan (02:25:20.000)

would you shit on the pope that much? That seems that seems too far for especially for his audience because they can't possibly care that much about the fucking Pope.

Dan (02:25:28.000)

Well, it's because the Pope has said that we have an obligation to care for the poor and the Oh, yeah, nothing pisses off people more than that, and the immigrants who are fleeing certain death, we have an obligation to help them. He has advocated for positions like that Alex Jones interprets that, as he believes in one world government open borders, all this stuff. So he's just become a focal head of globalism. He's like a globalist God in Alex's conception,

Jordan (02:25:57.000)

okay. But because you can pin everything back to the Pope, like all of his narratives can all be thrown into the Pope, somewhat. Yeah.

Dan (02:26:05.000)

And then you add on the actual true history of child abuse that exists within the Vatican. Absolutely. You can pin all that on him. And Leo's Egami, of course, says that that is the case. And that's why this Jesuit has become installed as Pope. Yeah. Because he has a pedophile blackmail on everybody, of course. So you have all of that wrapped up into this. But listen to this clip, from September 27. That's the Sunday show. The rest of the Sunday show is unknowable. It's a bunch of nonsense. He talks about Lord Monckton, David Knight and Jakari Jackson make a little pop up appearance. And

Jordan (02:26:45.000)

we're here at the world's tallest tree, we

Dan (02:26:49.000)

might as well. Might as well be David and Alex, David and Jakari. On the road. Yeah. Alex Jones talks about George Soros. And he talks about how everyone says, you know, he would have been killed by the Nazis. And like, hey, if I were in that position, I'd say pulled the trigger man, and like, Alex would be very unfair. But even even that is him recognizing that as a hiding Jew during the Holocaust. George Soros had no ability to buck the system at all. Alex Jones is recognizing that. And he's still lying about what George Soros did, because he's still saying that he rounded up Jews and stuff like that, which he absolutely didn't. He bases all of this on a 60 Minutes interview that has nothing to do with this stuff. It's all bullshit. But be that as it may, I think it's particularly disgusting, that he recognizes that it would be certain death for George Soros to do anything out of line. And he's like, Yeah, pissy, I would have taken death. Yeah. All right, Alex, you're a liar. First of all. And second of all, how dare you? How dare you insult someone's decision in that kind of a situation? The only way you can do that is if you kind of deny the Holocaust. And it was mostly about Jews that didn't pay ransom. Yeah, that's really the only way you can do that. And not think of yourself as a fucking horrible person. Anyway, this clip from the show is he has an interview with a guy named Joe Banister, who Alex presents him as a guy who the government tried to shut down his free speech. I don't know his whole history, I don't really care. It's not important to what's going on. The two of them have an interview. And the pope comes up. And Joe Banister has a pretty decent argument, and a pretty decent position. And then Alex makes an incredibly startling admission.

Joe Bannister (02:28:40.000)

Now, I think that there's certain messages that Pope Francis puts out there, talking about the Beatitudes and all kinds of things, defending the unborn. You know, that I happen to agree with but again, it's not like Catholics have to be lockstep about these other matters. They call them Prudential matters. You use prudence, Prudential judgment to determine, well, what is really the safest and the most just way to deal with these issues. So anyway, that's why that's the

Alex Jones (02:29:11.000)

key point, maybe the media is taking statements he makes and only taking those out of context, overall was being said, and he got really nasty and I want to be fair about it. So I'm to investigate that.

Dan (02:29:24.000)

He just straight up admitted that he doesn't know anything about the Pope. All he knows is stories that he's read. And as we have clearly demonstrated, he has a fucking bad media diet. He reads stories on Breitbart, Zero Hedge and pro Russian propaganda sites that are critical of the Pope. And these One World Government stances. A week of shitting on the Pope, it culminates with him

Jordan (02:29:51.000)

being like lamb maybe the media has taken him out of context, you fucking

Dan (02:29:55.000)

Ed. Looking asshole.

Jordan (02:29:58.000)

You're the worst. That's a great Hey, better late than never right but why you better late than never while you're muted? What else is he gonna do?

Dan (02:30:06.000)

He couldn't find his board now he could. He is so terrible. That's hilarious. So if you think if you think that's where this is gonna end this Pope shit, you're wrong. Oh, wait, it's because that was Sunday. And now our last day of the investigation the 28th. Alex is back on his bullshit. He's back on hating the Pope. Again he is because he has found a kernel of something he can get mad at. Oh, there we go. And here we go. Here's what we did do the research. Here's how he starts out the show on Monday. We all

Alex Jones (02:30:37.000)

you have to see it and hear it to believe it. The Pope says that Christ failed on the cross the entire of Christendom is based on Christ laying down his life willingly. In the face of death and hell and being tortured, to forgive us of our sins. The ultimate sacrifice God sacrificing is Sean and echo of Abraham about the sacrifice his son, but God following through on it, let's roll the grant loves. And when he got to San Philadelphia yesterday.

Translator for the Pope (02:31:14.000)

And if at times, our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit. We need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ. I mean, their luck and his life, humanly speaking, and in failure, the failure of the cross.

Alex Jones (02:31:46.000)

Then when he got to the full court clip, I have the transcript. He doesn't continue to say but then Christ succeeded. He just says he failed.

Dan (02:31:54.000)

So that's so, so dumb, so dumb. What he's saying is on a human level, he failed. That's Death. Death is a failure.

Jordan (02:32:06.000)

Yeah. He knew it because he cried out, why have you forsaken me? Exactly. That's the whole point.

Dan (02:32:13.000)

I thought this was gonna go differently. Yeah. Or whatever. It was

Jordan (02:32:17.000)

not always to be that'd be a way better way. Guys, I thought this was gonna end up differently. Yeah. But and then he dies. But like,

Dan (02:32:27.000)

the point that the Pope is trying to make, and it's super obvious, of course, is that oftentimes we get discouraged by not seeing the results of our actions on the human plane. And within the sort of times of our lives, you may not see that the cross is a failure on human terms, but it's not in general. Exactly. And everyone fucking knows. That's what he's saying. But this is crucial. Alex has this to say about that.

Alex Jones (02:32:59.000)

And of course, Christ rose again, if you are a Christian, and you believe that, and it was the greatest triumph. And his full quote is very, yeah. Do

Jordan (02:33:08.000)

you get it?

Alex Jones (02:33:09.000)

Geopolitical is the term they use or Jesuit oriented. Hillary says she runs her life, according to Georgetown, geopolitical thinking, where you could get what he's saying that Christ physically was killed, but had the greater triumph. But it's very twisted, and has double meanings.

Dan (02:33:29.000)

And this is the underpinning of the entire worldview that Alex Jones espouses. There's double meanings to everything. I'm not stupid, and misinterpreting clear statements that people make. They're using double speak. So that's why he can go to John P air licks textbook about eco science. And he can say he's using doublespeak. He's saying that they're putting stuff in the water when that is not in the text at all. That is not what John Eric is saying. But because Alex Jones has this conception, that these globalists, what they do is they double talk, everything is code. He can just say that anybody is asserting either what they're saying, or the opposite of what they're saying, or something in between. He can just make up meanings for anything.

Jordan (02:34:15.000)

Yeah, this is a problem. This is a big problem. This is a big problem. And I like it when words mean things like means a lot to me

Dan (02:34:21.000)

that words mean thing, and this is why he can take stuff like that purple penguins. until like, no, no, no, it is cold. So when he says they're trying to outlaw mother and father, man and wife, boy and girl, there is no evidence of that. There's nothing in any story that is has any credibility, that that is what people want. But because he sees the double talk, he sees the double speak that people are doing. He can see transgender advocate saying, hey, let's not gender things that don't need to be gendered. And he can be like, Oh my God, they're trying to outlaw boy and girl. You guys just don't see it. You don't see the doublespeak that I see. And it's like No, dude, your brain damaged. You have your fucked up, you see things that aren't there, you're fighting ghosts. There's a globalist cabal that you've imagined in your head from bullshit you read when you were fucking too young to understand how the world works, and you're functioning off it as a 40 fucking year old man. And you've created a system wherein Oh, everything doesn't mean what it means or means whatever I want it to mean. And you're making millions of dollars fucking lying to people about it. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself. Anyway. All right, Dan. Yeah, I'm good.

Jordan (02:35:36.000)

I just love it. When you get angry.

Dan (02:35:38.000)

I'm so mad.

Jordan (02:35:39.000)

I get to I just I just get to sit here and breathe. And then I think, Oh, it feels so good. Is this what Dan feels like? When I go yell?

Dan (02:35:47.000)

I worry about the level.

Jordan (02:35:51.000)

Yeah, you are much more under control.

Dan (02:35:53.000)

I just I have a history of knowing how things are gonna sound coming to Mike's. But like, I fuck it. I know that that's what he does. And I've known it the whole time. And him just didn't meeting it. They're in service of demonizing the Pope, after he's already admitted on the Sunday show. I don't fucking know anything. Except for what the media tells me. It's so evil. This is so manipulative.

Jordan (02:36:15.000)

And it is it is right back to that paranoid projection where it's totally you are you are mad at him. Because you live in a world where that's what you do. Totally. So if you do that, obviously, the people you are fighting against are doing that. Yeah. So that's why this, this gets back to that same level of hopelessness and like, how do you speak to somebody who words don't mean anything to

Dan (02:36:40.000)

you? Don't hopefully you educate? I mean, it's too late for Alex. He's way too old. And he's way too set in his ways. Yeah. But ideally, what you would do is you would like,

Jordan (02:36:49.000)

take holster a public school system? Well, that would be great. Yeah, that'd be smart,

Dan (02:36:53.000)

teach logic, teach rhetoric, because I think that those are things that aren't really well handled by the result oriented and standardized testing oriented public schools. But I think if you gave people a handle on logic young, it would really enable them to understand arguments, it would really help them decipher bullshit, right beyond that, and

Jordan (02:37:15.000)

that's why they hate it so much. And that's why they hate it that especially with the right wing, they hate it, because that is not what they want to teach in there. Oh, no, no, no. What we should do is take parents away from their children. We should look, we should outlaw mothers and fathers, because they're the root cause. Like if Alex Jones didn't have a mother or father, we wouldn't have Alex Jones. Finally, we get out, we get them out of there. Right?

Dan (02:37:40.000)

We're getting to what our point is,

Jordan (02:37:42.000)

I don't even I don't even like I don't even like genders I want to get rid of mother and father. I think it should just be parents. Right. And I think we should let the children choose their own gender. Really, that seems like the only way to

Dan (02:37:53.000)

do it, and teachers should be jacking them off.

Jordan (02:37:55.000)

Absolutely. This is what this makes perfect sense.

Dan (02:37:59.000)

I mean, you're being satirical, but be that as it may,

Jordan (02:38:01.000)

I don't know, maybe the way to defeat Alex Jones is just to do what Alex Jones is afraid?

Dan (02:38:06.000)

Well, no, absolutely.

Jordan (02:38:08.000)

If we start doing it.

Dan (02:38:11.000)

But the other thing, the reason I included rhetoric in there with what I want them to be teaching, what they shouldn't be teaching is because it was a part of classical education that like rhetorical devices, skills, the ability like oratory, it's something that people should study, because it enables you to tell much like when we were very obviously able to tell two things on this episode based on studying rhetoric. One, whenever Alex Jones does one of those voices he's like, right, you can tell because that's a rhetorical trick he uses. Second, when he starts putting on the Malcolm X impression, you can tell that something's going on there, you can tell that he's full of shit and probably in a weird headspace because, you know, his rhetoric, you know, the tools that he employs, and if students in primary education would be taught those sorts of things, you'd be much more able to see a politician and be like, Oh, hold on now. I know what you're doing. You're What about ng or your othering? You're doing all these these standard tricks that Democrats and Republicans use? I'm not just saying

Jordan (02:39:15.000)

no, it's it's exactly what you're saying. The people who know these who are taught rhetoric are using it against people who aren't right

Dan (02:39:23.000)

that's why that's that's what it is. Why a lot of these fucking worst problem people in the world are people who took debate class. Yeah, it's because they know these things right? And they know how to essentially hypnotize people with their language they use like Neuro Linguistic Programming type tricks. And then on top of that, just it's there's so many dodges, to arguments. Like if you're if you get into an argument with someone like a Paul Joseph Watson, or an Alex Jones, they have so many tricks at their disposal if you confront them with, Hey, you think that everybody is saying two things when they're saying one up cherry pick which one you want to believe is what they mean. And you can bring up examples and stuff like that. They'll turn it on to like, what about vaccine? Yeah, exact or whatever. That's there's so many tricks that you can use. And if you understand rhetoric and logic, there are ways that you can shut that shit down, or at least recognize and be like, Oh, you're not worth talking to. Yeah, exactly. We're just trying to mislead me. Yeah. And then you can move along to something else. Yeah. So anyway, education is obviously the key. Now. Yeah,

Jordan (02:40:27.000)

our education isn't to stop Alex Jones. It's to stop you being fooled by him.

Dan (02:40:33.000)

You shouldn't be tricked by any of these. Yeah, Cernovich is Sobiech saw them as holes, or whatever. And

Jordan (02:40:40.000)

somebody's trying to deceive you. If you know how to deceive people. You're gonna be better at sussing it out. Yeah. And

Dan (02:40:48.000)

like, let's be clear, all of the all these people who are a problem now weren't a problem five years ago, like Jack Ma Sobiech wasn't really in the mainstream. No one really knew who he was, or anything like that five years ago, and now he exists, and he is a mess. In the same way. I mean, like Cernovich was involved with GamerGate stuff and shit like that. But before that he wasn't really a notable, prominent problem. So five years from now, there's gonna be other assholes. And if you just use the same awareness that you can have about Alex Jones, or about Mike Cernovich, the next time around, you won't be tricked by his bullshit or her bullshit, whoever the next version of this is. And that is what I would hope to see in the world. And I don't think we're going to be that as it may.

Jordan (02:41:34.000)

Yeah, we need some sort of vaccine. Yeah. Probably. That's really what it is

Dan (02:41:40.000)

truth vaccine. Yeah. All right. So Jordan, the last clips we have to cover we have a couple more left. And I will say that they're just good fun, with the exception of the last one, which is an update on Trump. But here is Alex Jones responding to some space news,

Jordan (02:41:57.000)

excellent Space Command,

Alex Jones (02:41:59.000)

we have huge economic news, we have massive news, NASA scientists find evidence of flowing water on Mars during the summer. Mars is extremely habitable,

Jordan (02:42:11.000)

what? Mars is extremely habitable. What everybody knows this. So that's why they put bases on there. That's why they steal kids, right? Make them work as slaves on Mars. Frankly, you know what I've been hearing from my NASA sources that it's too habitable. What too many people could

Dan (02:42:30.000)

live there. One of the main problems with this idea that that Mars is habitable, is there's not really much oxygen. That's really one of the problems

Jordan (02:42:43.000)

with a weather with a weather weapon, you can turn that into an oxygen rich zone easily.

Dan (02:42:48.000)

I think even if you have a weather weapon, you have to have shit to work with. Now not important. So the breakdown of the atmosphere content and on Mars is oxygen is point one 3% Like enough doesn't seem like enough. It's really pretty much all carbon dioxide, which would kill everybody who ends up

Jordan (02:43:06.000)

playing some stuff. That's how that's how it works. I have some plants. They eat up carbon dioxide. I breathe air. You bring a couple of plants with you to Mars. You're good.

Dan (02:43:17.000)

That's actually on a massive scale. Not a terrible idea in terms of that terraforming. What's wrong? There isn't flowing water. There is a history of flowing water. No, no, there's flow millions of years ago now in the summers. So dumb, but Alex Jones believes really dumb stuff about space. And here's another one. This is Alex Jones. Accidentally walking is the

Jordan (02:43:41.000)

movie was it mission to Mars? That one where that one where Gary Sinise and Don Cheadle go to space, and Gary Sinise joins the Martians. It's a whole thing. I don't remember like they left signals behind for us to follow.

Dan (02:43:54.000)

I don't remember. But I do know that sci fi is just the dreams of men. So what about fantasy? It's the nightmares of men.

Jordan (02:44:05.000)

What about creative nonfiction?

Dan (02:44:07.000)

It is the astral projections of man. Whoo. That's good. So like this next clip? Alex Jones accidentally walks into my backyard and I'm going oh, no, are

Jordan (02:44:15.000)

we going to get busted? I'm going to tell him

Dan (02:44:17.000)

to get out of that backyard here to

Alex Jones (02:44:20.000)

Mars. It has an atmosphere it is habitable. Simply amazing. And we now know what the ancient shed and legend that it wants had a thicker atmosphere and oceans and it lost its atmosphere. The Atlantean legends written about by Plato were about Mars claim that there was a connection to Mars and Atlantis and that Atlantis lost its atmosphere and Mars lost its atmosphere. And I don't know if that's true or shut it. Now it's coming through the ancient

Dan (02:44:57.000)

setting. Now it's coming through. I

Jordan (02:44:58.000)

don't know if it's true. No, it's true, but it's COVID True.

Dan (02:45:01.000)

Here's what I know. That's not in Plato.

Jordan (02:45:05.000)

Mars. Look, Atlantis lost its atmosphere, which we all know. Yeah, that's what happened. They died of oxygen starvation, right? And then Mars lost its atmosphere simultaneously.

Dan (02:45:17.000)

I don't know. Listen, here's the deal. What is the deal? We've gone over this a little bit in the past and like Atlantis, Atlantis is a big passion of it's a big passion of yours. He Plato talks about it in Timaeus and critius, the two dialogues and he doesn't say anything about fucking Mars at all. It's that's complete made up by Alex. Except it's not. I'll get to that in a second. He's ascribing pseudo science. Edgar Cayce II type stuff on Plato, right? Because he knows if he's like, oh, and David Bowie, if he was like, Oh, these theosophists they were, you know, they told us have past lives on on Atlantis and Mars. If he did that, everyone, I'd be like, oh shit, you're into new agey bullshit. Instead, he claims that those theosophists were saying is what Plato was saying. And then he's like, I'm just

Jordan (02:46:08.000)

a classicist, and then it lends him a an air of Ryan earned legitimacy. Right?

Dan (02:46:13.000)

The actually it has nothing to do with Mars and Plato. It has to do with Poseidon. Poseidon was the king of Atlantis and his offspring. Were the reason that as I

Jordan (02:46:23.000)

say, my first thought when he starts talking about Mars and Plato, I'm like, You are talking wrong because they're speaking more about the god

Dan (02:46:31.000)

Oh, you're thinking about Mars the Roman Yeah, deity. Yeah.

Jordan (02:46:35.000)

I'm saying that he's deliberately confusing those.

Dan (02:46:39.000)

Now, what he's doing is he's using like some of this very, very dubious type of these channeled materials and stuff like that from these people like Edgar Casey, talking about past lives on Atlantis and things like that, that build up the robustness of the Mars narrative and the Atlantis narrative as it were, excuse me, but also what he's doing is he's bringing in Ancient Aliens. He's bringing in these Erich Von Daniken Oh, yeah, type bullshit. Oh, he's bringing in stuff that has to do with like the Emerald Tablets of Thoth

Jordan (02:47:15.000)

with the Emerald Tablets of thought we'd be here for another fucking hour that's exactly how long I want to be here as long as it takes to get to the bottom of the Emerald Tablets of thought

Dan (02:47:26.000)

we could do an entire episode on this pseudo scientific nonsense this weird spirituality

Jordan (02:47:32.000)

another project Camelot episode COVID I wish

Dan (02:47:34.000)

Project Camelot tell carry the all about this. Okay, so there's there's this pseudo spiritualist belief in Atlantis that has to do with so there's a planet that's called various different things. Maldek is one of the things it's called. And since there were they were Marty has the ring of truth. There were Martians and aliens on this planet. And they ended up blowing up the planet and killing everybody on it, because they got too interested in the sort of tinkering and they created atomic weapons and they blew up the entire planet. Isn't that the story of Krypton basically. So these these souls needed somewhere else to reincarnate because they had to work out their karmic debt and what have you so there was negotiations this isn't a hollow earth shit to it gets real deep.

Jordan (02:48:23.000)

What about Xenu? Xenu? Involve? Yeah, who is Tertiaries he's he's in the sidelines waiting waiting to get in coach

Dan (02:48:29.000)

so there is a planetary I don't even fucking know they had negotiations and these negotiate. Okay, these beings were allowed to reincarnate on Earth. So they reincarnate on Lemuria.

Jordan (02:48:41.000)

Right? Even even they can compromise. All right, they allowed illegal immigrants into this is a far better world. That's

Dan (02:48:51.000)

perfect. So they reincarnate on Lemuria to work out their karmic debt and what have you and they ended up creating a bunch of weapons and blowing up Lemuria. So then they go to Atlantis, and they do they're bad at working out their karmic debt, right. So they go to Atlantis, and they do the same things that create nuclear weapons, they end up blowing up Atlantis, and then we're here in modern day. Here's the problem. We've created these weapons. We've used them they haven't blown up to the world and they haven't blown up any they haven't like we've dropped nuclear weapons and it didn't even destroy Japan, which is an island. So and according to these legends, Atlantis was even bigger than that. And yet it was destroyed by the

Jordan (02:49:26.000)

here's the one they had better nuclear weapons obvious. Here's the reason that if you've ever seen the movie, Atlantis, you know, it's easy for them to destroy things, because they have the 12 stone statues that put their hands together. That's fair. And then you know, wall of light

Dan (02:49:41.000)

that's as legitimate as the shootout. Yeah, exactly. So I prefer that version. as I as I tell you these things that people believe that are nonsense. I need to make clear that I know that Alex Jones has to be aware of some of this and this is where it's coming from. Because the idea that there was a connection without outerspace and Atlantis is all from this. It has nothing to do with Plato. Plato didn't talk about that shit at all. So he's getting that from a source that has to be in line with the Von Daniken. The what's the other guy's name? The who cares? Yeah,

Jordan (02:50:16.000)

the other guys from Ancient Aliens. Yeah, maybe he just watched an episode of ancient alien. It's entirely possible. Yeah. That's entirely possible. But

Dan (02:50:25.000)

then again, he always talks about the Atlantean legend, and he always talks about how we're getting to this Atlantean moment. And that is the idea that Atlantis created nuclear weapons and blew itself up, which comes from this pseudo scientifical, pseudo spiritualist theosophist branch of nonsense, if you actually are really just going off of Plato, which is, you know, a respected source. In many ways. Whatever he's talking about Atlantis is very unspecific, but he talks about it, like the destruction of Atlantis was the punishment of God, because they were too warlike. They went around and they disrespected the will of the gods, they fucked with the Athens was too much. So they got destroyed by the gods, because they became too decadent. It wasn't that they created nuclear weapons and then destroy themselves. He takes his entire idea of the metaphor of Atlantis, and from these bullshit sources right claims it comes from Plato, right? fascinating to me. And again, I could do an hour on this, of course, I love it because he's so dumb. And he should not be talking about Atlantis. Well,

Jordan (02:51:30.000)

it's the same it's a myth of fucking Babylon and, you know, whatever, whatever ones that you want to get to right turning around and turn it into a pillar of salt and all that

Dan (02:51:40.000)

bullshit. Yeah, but I just don't like it when he does it with Atlantis. That's Gomorrah and Sodom. Yes. But I just hate what he does with Atlantis because that's my that's my shit. I love

Jordan (02:51:50.000)

you stay out you stay out Alex.

Dan (02:51:52.000)

This is Dan's back yards or two more clips. This This one is just for you. Mike down okay, but I know you love Alex Jones is fake laugh. This is you getting you know it's that Be careful what you wish for. Because this is too much of his

Jordan (02:52:13.000)

might just gonna go fake laugh fake laugh that's why Okay, okay.

Dan (02:52:18.000)

So here we go. This is the worst fake laugh I've ever heard in Alex Jones

Alex Jones (02:52:23.000)

coming up Israel will allow police to fire live ammunition at protesters. And I just love this Orwellian article out of Los Angeles Times I'm gonna cover it when we come back. Because whether you're for Israel or against Israel, whatever it is the most Orwellian you want to know how they sell it they say basically if you're a demonstrator they're gonna shoot you with lead ammunition but don't worry it's small caliber two to three they're acting like it's not lethal to two threes little most deadly rounds there is it disintegrates when it hits you and opens up because they wanted to kill more people in Maine more people in Vietnam and so they they had to have full metal jacket under the Geneva Convention. So they made a full metal jacket hypervelocity round that breaks up when it hits bone it's basically a fragmentation kinetic weapon that any bullets a kinetic weapon but it's a fragmentation kinetic weapon that gets around the Geneva could fetch we're gonna shoot you with 223 from a Ruger range rifle and it's okay. Oh, oh, I'm just gonna cover after the break. I just had to cover right the

Alex Jones (02:53:43.000)

I'm sorry, I'm crying. That's so hilarious. Oh my gosh, that is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. We're gonna shoot you with an M 16 round but don't worry. It's small caliper. I'm sorry. I'm gonna stop right there.

Dan (02:53:58.000)

You better That's crazy. That's a lunatic that is. He thinks it's so funny. What the

Jordan (02:54:07.000)

fuck is that?

Dan (02:54:09.000)

I don't know. Because he's not those aren't. That's not real laughter Oh, watch the video. He's he's like he's really handling it. That's putting his head over his eyes very

Jordan (02:54:17.000)

bad acting. Yeah,

Dan (02:54:18.000)

that's terrible. But the idea that he would want to present that he thinks that it's so funny is bizarre even on its own. The idea that that is the funniest thing he's ever heard is incredibly fucked up.

Jordan (02:54:30.000)

Oh yeah. No misusing knowledge about ammunition. Of course that's hilarious. The

Dan (02:54:35.000)

Israelis can get away with killing. Yeah,

Jordan (02:54:37.000)

that is hilarious. So you could have gone for a little bit longer.

Dan (02:54:43.000)

I could have I just don't have the energy. We're three hours into this podcast.

Jordan (02:54:48.000)

It's the funniest thing ever.

Dan (02:54:55.000)

I wonder what his real life sounds like. Is it like free?

Jordan (02:54:58.000)

I don't. I don't think he has one. I

Dan (02:55:00.000)

bet it's embarrassing. And that's why he doesn't do it. I bet it's like, I really should laugh.

Jordan (02:55:04.000)

I really don't think that he has a genuine laugh.

Dan (02:55:07.000)

That's fair enough. Also, I'd like to say I like Fran dressers laugh when I was a kid, I had a big crush on her. And I'm glad that she's revolutionary.

Jordan (02:55:12.000)

You did not need to reel that reveal that information at all.

Dan (02:55:15.000)

I think she was a very attractive lady. Anyway. This, this investigation, like we've said, though, you would not know by listening to it is all about trying to find out when Donald Trump came into Alex Jones's sphere, as as Alex being his propagandist. So I'm going to leave you with

Jordan (02:55:36.000)

a cliffhanger. Not really.

Dan (02:55:39.000)

He brings up Trump says something, or news breaks on the 28th that is relevant to Trump's campaign. And Alex Jones, I'll just let him take the wheel. And let you make of this what you will I let Jesus take

Alex Jones (02:55:53.000)

Trump has come out with a I've read out of the Wall Street Journal article, what really makes sense as a super duper tax program, a massive tax decrease for the middle class and the nouveau riche and the working poor. Not as big as what Kennedy did, but similar, and a whopping 10% levy on all which it should be like 50% on all the multinational US based companies that wrote the laws where they're tax exempt, so they take all their profits outside, Trump understands, we need to bring a large portion of that money back, but it shouldn't be 10% because they haven't paid more than 20 years, basically any taxes. They take their profits outside the country to tax exempt havens. And so we need to drag that money back in. It's time for the globalist General Electric Google. Apple. It's time for the fortune 100 Lockheed Martin, all you guys America built you gave you the power over the planet. And now you want to shrink it so you can politically control it. No, you are going to send that money back in here. You took that money out of this country, you're gonna bring that money back into this country. Three

Dan (02:57:09.000)

important points. One, he's saying America built you, which is very similar to you didn't build your business, which is something he's very mad at Obama for saying. Second thing, I forgot what one of them is. But oh, no, no, it's that he's grossly mischaracterizing Trump's tax proposal. Oh, it was nonsense. It was nothing like no.

Jordan (02:57:34.000)

Awesome. I like how he thinks nouveau riche is not just rich people. Yeah, like, oh, no, he's not gonna tax people who are newly rich. You know, you have to own your tax forms. You have to write when you became rich, right based on your tax. Yeah.

Dan (02:57:50.000)

Holds money. Yeah. That money but then the other thing that I think game show Alex is a fucking idiot. For he's willfully lie. Because you know, who runs a multinational corporation based in America? I can't think of anybody. Donald fucking Trump. Wait,

Jordan (02:58:08.000)

what? Yeah, hold on, he may still allow him to do that. He's running for president. We don't want any kind of conflicts of interest there. I'm assuming since this is 2015, the laws will kick in. And we will know that he doesn't have he's divested from his Oh, wait, no, he's not. He's not. He's fucking doing the fuck. But our dad,

Dan (02:58:29.000)

Alex can't possibly think that Donald Trump is so selfless, that he's going to create an a giant tax burden for companies very similar to the one that he owns. That's what he said he was going to do, Dan, that's so crazy. Look, that's so stupid.

Jordan (02:58:45.000)

If Artie said that they weren't buttering him up. You believe them? Right? If Trump says that he's going to cost himself money as he has been known to do his entire life. Absolutely. You know how you know how Trump is always like, how do I give more of my money away? Right? How do I make sure that I am not the only person taken care of

Dan (02:59:06.000)

he used his own charities money to pay for his son's enrollment in the boy scouts? Yeah, that's fucking what's normal. Know,

Jordan (02:59:15.000)

his son used his own charities money to pay Trump to play golf,

Dan (02:59:20.000)

right? Yeah, that's not normal stuff. That's not the act of someone who's going to

Jordan (02:59:26.000)

that man who wants to raise his own taxes, Dan, that's what that is for it. So all these ones it's like he's like a dominatrix. That's what he was

Dan (02:59:34.000)

begging for someone to raise his taxes to 100% Oh, yeah. Fucking prison. Oh, yeah. But be the financial DOM. That's what he is either, is it may it also contradicts things that Alex has said about Trump in the past. It absolutely does. Like he has characterization of Donald Trump has become something very positive. As opposed to this guy's a scumbag. He's a

Jordan (02:59:57.000)

predator. The fact that he said for a long time I Don't trust him. Yeah. And then he hears this dumb shit, right? He's like, Well, I of course I trust him. I

Dan (03:00:06.000)

tacitly trust this. Yeah, of course stupid, unbelievably stupid.

Jordan (03:00:10.000)

So I don't believe it or he got a shit ton of money from the money, Bob.

Dan (03:00:15.000)

That's possible. So and we're that's the last clip we're playing. We're gonna leave it here until the next phase of the investigation. But at this point, he's still even after that does say, I don't I'm not endorsing him yet. He is still in the same place. Is there is no foundational progress.

Jordan (03:00:33.000)

No, but we're seeing it happen so slowly. It's kind of disappointing. There's no, it seems like it's just a build up of him hearing things repeatedly. And he just can only hold one idea in his head at the same time.

Dan (03:00:46.000)

Yeah, but there will be a day when he's like, all right. I love this guy. Yeah. And that is what we met is the day that's that's what this is after. A man Roger stones got to show up soon. Right. Time is running out. Right. I don't know when it is. But he's got to come soon. Anyway, this has been interesting road that we've gone down. i It's been fun. But if you'd like more fun, you can find it at knowledge. fight.com. Excellent work. Oh, let me say this. Oh, okay. I forgot to say this until we were doing our plugs. But mine. I forgot to say this at the beginning of the show. And I just want to give an explanation for why we've been in the past for so long. Not great that I'm doing it three hours into the show. Most people maybe won't hear this

Jordan (03:01:24.000)

busted into most of your introductions wind up happening. At the end of the show,

Dan (03:01:29.000)

I will have said you can go to our website. And that's when I assume most people turn it off a bit as it may. The reason is Alex has been out of studio the last couple of days of last week like Friday, Thursday, he's been out of the studio. And even before that he was just trolling. He's just trolling people. Yeah, he's doing this like people kept posting that he's keeping a dossier of his enemies Dick sizes and stuff like that. That's that's just him trying to get more attention in the same vein as the we love our Somali song content. Yeah, it's all just trying to get people to bait. Just grab this bait. I'm gonna reel you in the ad the dick size thing. It's a joke, but you people will come and hear the truth for me. It doesn't work that way. But it's still nonsense. He just he still ends up making a lot of money off ad revenue and shit like that. So don't fall for it. It's all super boring. And then at the end of last week, Reince Priebus got the axe. Now Alex Jones, much like his argument that he got John Boehner he

Jordan (03:02:24.000)

took credit for Ryan's Priebus going down. Absolutely.

Dan (03:02:25.000)

Okay. And to some extent, yeah, maybe he did have some source that told him that it was gonna go down it and that's the drum he has been banging. And it's possible, but I'm not interested in scoops like that. That's not an exciting scoop. To me. That's palace intrigue. I don't give a shit about stuff like that. I don't care if you have. He's been hating Priebus for months. It's not like he has some sort of insight information. He thinks he's a globalist holdover. Like that's what he just hates Reince Priebus.

Jordan (03:02:54.000)

So the fact that he gets fired is I mean, he's not alone. Right. But him saying we called it earlier this week. Yeah, that doesn't really mean anything if you call that like four months ago Yeah, I was gonna say it's not like he said rights will be out by the end of the week. No,

Dan (03:03:08.000)

I'm not maybe he did. I don't fucking know. Okay, yeah, but but

Jordan (03:03:11.000)

even even said that before to even then his he can claim that because the same people who got rid of previous are the people that he who already agree with him, and you know, like Bannon is the guy who gets rid of Priebus because of fucking course he does ban and hates that guy. Alex and Bannon are the same. Same fucking dude.

Dan (03:03:32.000)

And, you know, he's we got Anthony we got we got Scaramucci in there. We got the scare Moochie I would be fucking blown away. If he wasn't Alex's source, the previous was gonna be gone. Probably the way he has these loose lips with journalists. Oh, yeah. And he's a fucking shit talker and Alex and him have some sort of connection. I'm not entirely sure what it is they seem to have at least positive feelings mutually. I would not be surprised at all if Scaramucci Wow demonizing writes Priebus for being a leaker is leaking shit out John horsey and Mike Cernovich and what have you, but be that as a man, it's just boring, the presence boring. And we'll get back to it eventually, but I just don't care to fall into his stupid trolling tricks. And at the same time, if David Knight Paul Joseph Watson are in studio, we're not covering it now. So we'll see what happens this week. But until further notice,

Jordan (03:04:24.000)

the only way that we cover David knight or Paul Joseph Watson being in studio is if they are hit by the missing Malaysian plane or if our Asian if the Malaysian plane went into a stargate and then comes out and lands on the Infowars studio. I will definitely talk about that episode. Sure all day

Dan (03:04:45.000)

or if Alex does get swapped teamed and David Knight has to fill in, we might we might have to deal with it in order just to get the narrative, right. Anyway, you can find us at knowledge by.com Here

Jordan (03:04:54.000)

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Dan (03:04:58.000)

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Jordan (03:05:22.000)

Not a great joke. No. But yep, 10 years later, I still remember.

Dan (03:05:26.000)

Yeah. Anyway, we're on Facebook.

Jordan (03:05:30.000)

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Dan (03:05:35.000)

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Jordan (03:05:52.000)

And I will tease this out there and see exactly how people feel about it. But we may be we may be filled with buttons. Yeah, may have buttons available. Sure. We don't know what they'll say. No. We don't know why you would get one Nope. We love you if you do wear wonder But why are you wearing a button? Yeah, my buttons are cool. The punk. We should sell stickers for Trapper keepers. Right? That's who we're let's do it. That's our demographic. Yes.

Dan (03:06:19.000)

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Dan (03:06:24.000)

Yeah, whatever. We're gonna make some stuff you knows. Anyway, thank you all for listening. We appreciate it. Something we don't appreciate is an old Toothless man. That guy is named John Rapoport and what do you how do you feel about him?

Jordan (03:06:34.000)

Um, you know, I go back and forth but right now I think he can go fuck himself. Go fuck yourself. John Rapoport. Hey, man,

Alex Jones (03:06:42.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

CNN Reporter (03:06:46.000)

So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.