Transcript/919: April 15, 2024
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes, I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Hey Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan!
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today buddy?
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My bright spot?
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Actually why don't you go first?
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Okay, I have a, I think I have two bright spots.
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Okay.
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Alright, first one, you got a taste of it, or not yet.
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Sure.
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I touched it.
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We, we, my wife and I made some nice little Golden Graham S'mores Rice Krispie Treat kind
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of things.
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Delicious.
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Nice.
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Too good.
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Which is why you have a lot compared to.
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Because otherwise you just eat them all.
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Oh my god, they're too good.
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Well I'll probably eat all of them tonight.
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I would imagine so.
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Honestly, this isn't going to last.
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Seriously, they're good.
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Stop it!
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But I appreciate it.
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You are welcome.
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And two, did you, I don't know if you've been paying attention.
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Did you know that there's a, there's rap fights going on again?
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I've seen a few, I've seen a few tweets about people fighting, I think Drake's fighting
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with somebody.
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So yeah, Drake and Kendrick are fighting.
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Okay.
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Which I think is hilarious.
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Um.
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It's very quaint.
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What's the, what's the deal?
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Uh, okay, so if I understand the deal, well first off I think everybody was just bored.
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Right.
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Because that's really what's going on.
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Yeah, I mean it's a good publicity kind of thing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And the whole rap, something like, uh, me Drake and Kendrick, we're all really good.
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You know, essentially.
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And then, uh, Drake heard about it and was like, uh, no, I'm good.
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And then, and then everybody else was like, well that's not nice.
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And so here we are.
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But you know what I realized, because we were just talking about, uh, you know, things 20
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years ago.
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What I realized is that this is Mos Def and Talib's crowning achievement.
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This is not a very violent fight at all.
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You mean that they have made rap, they made rap beef non-violent?
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Definition, definition did it.
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It was this thing at one, two, three.
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It's kind of dangerous.
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Not anymore.
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I say to Mos Def and Talib Kweli.
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And they did that.
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They did it.
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I think they did it by themselves with that track.
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Okay.
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So Blackstar settled everything.
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I think they did.
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It took, it took a while.
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It took a while.
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And some people in the meantime probably have not done too well.
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Sure.
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I think there have been some, some, there's been some, a little bit, I've not followed
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this too closely, but like, uh, I have seen, I have some, uh, seen some tweets and I do
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think that, uh, beef in the age of social media is strange.
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Hilarious.
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It's so stupid.
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Can you imagine, can you imagine Drake having beef with like a, like Biggie or something?
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Like like fucking Degrassi, you think Degrassi is going to show up at a Biggie party and
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be okay.
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Maybe he'd have beef with Rick, the guy who shot up the school in the Degrassi.
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I actually, I was thinking about this just the other day.
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Yeah.
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Maybe it's because I'd seen tweets about Drake, but I was like, I seem to remember they did
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a Degrassi reunion in a Drake music video and they did.
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Okay.
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Well then you then cannot be in a quote unquote beef with the greatest rapper alive.
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They did a Degrassi reunion in Drake's video for I'm Upset and it's bizarre because I was
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watching it and I'm like, yeah, all right, Craig, May, Emma, this makes sense.
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Spinner.
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All of this is cool.
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Jay and Silent Bob show up because they're selling weed to Snake.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Makes sense.
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All of this is fine.
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For some reason, Rick, the guy who shot up the school is in the music video in universe.
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He's dead.
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I was going to say, is he a ghost in this scenario?
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I think he's in it just to be chased down a hallway.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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Because he and Drake would have had beef.
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Right, right, right.
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I don't understand why he's in the video to be given.
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It's very bizarre.
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I'm going to throw this out.
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That got me way off guard.
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Force ghost.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Anakin Skywalker.
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He's back.
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Okay.
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Just because he was Vader doesn't mean he can't come back to have like a moment.
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You know?
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I still feel like, I think the other guy who got murdered on the show wasn't in it.
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JT.
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I don't think he's in the music video.
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I'm amazed how often we just all accept that high schools have a lot of murder plots on
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TV.
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Just all these kids murdering people.
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Well, to be fair, one was a school shooting and the other was a straight up.
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I don't, you know, it's hard to say if they meant to murder JT.
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So my bright spot.
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What's your bright spot, buddy?
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There's very rarely anything that I'm like straight up looking forward to.
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Yes, I know.
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I've been working on that for a long time.
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No.
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Well, you've made some suggestions, but they're futile.
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But there's things, you know, like you go on, you move about your day.
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But Friday, there is an event that is happening that I'm so excited about.
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The best podcast, as far as I'm concerned, is Hey Randy, Tim Baltz's podcast with like
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Mary Sohn and Lily Sullivan.
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It's the best.
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I think it's so funny.
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And for a long time, they've been joking about an in-universe event called Twisted Fest.
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But it's just like all kinds of stupid shit.
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It's like the festival that all your hometown buddies would go to.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
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Camp out.
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Yeah.
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Get high in the woods or whatever.
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Okay, okay.
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And they just joked about it.
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You kind of got the sense like they're probably going to have to pay this off eventually.
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And so they are doing a live thing in LA of Twisted Fest, which is on Friday.
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Are you flying to LA tomorrow?
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No, but if I had found out about it early enough.
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You might have gone?
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I still don't think I could afford it or really pull it off.
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But if there's anything that I would have flown just for like an event, this is probably
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it.
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Yeah.
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This is going to be fantastic.
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I'm very excited about it.
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It's going to be real dumb.
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You know, that is sometimes the thing about generally eschewing money is sometimes it
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could really come in handy for doing stuff you want to do.
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If I had a private jet, take me out to Twisted Fest.
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If we used money for evil, we could do stuff like that, right?
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That's how the people with the evil do it, right?
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah, so I'm going to be squarely planted for the live stream.
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You're going to be glued to your chair watching the live stream.
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I love it.
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Very excited about that.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
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That's really fun.
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Wish I could have made it.
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Yeah.
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Oh, well.
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Well, you know, I wish now that would have been my, you know, I don't know.
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You got flight time tomorrow?
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What time do you need to go?
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I think it's sold out.
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It's a small theater.
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Weak.
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I'll send a call.
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Phone call.
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They'll give you a special guest spot, buddy.
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You need a spot?
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I appreciate the thought of your kindness and but no, I'm just excited.
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I'm going to get to.
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All right.
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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about a very special day in Alex's career.
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Oh, that is April 15th, 2024.
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That's not that special.
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An anniversary of sorts.
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Oh, OK.
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We'll get down to business on exactly what I'm talking about there, but first, let's
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say hello to some new wonks.
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That's a great idea.
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So first, Jordan, I must inform you that the German show where people cut things exactly
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in half is in fact fake.
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Uh-oh.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You got tricked by fake news.
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That happens.
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Of a German TV show.
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What are you going to do?
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Why not?
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Next, I'm going to go see Knowledge Fight in Milwaukee in about 45 days.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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That was a I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy thing.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Until too late.
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Yep.
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And reporting live from fascist-occupied Indiana, a fan of YouTube, a fan of two years, proud
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to finally become a wonk.
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Your turn, Raymond.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And you got a couple of technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to Now You Are Yow, Wallace Eponk.
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And to my daughter and fellow wonk, Callie, she was born with congenital heart disease
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and has been living with it for 30-plus years.
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She's about to start the transplant path again, but that's a long story and it worked out
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till now.
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And through the Facebook group, we met Len, another CHD adult.
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Good to know the community there is so diverse and welcoming.
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Thank you so much.
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You are both now technocrats.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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I have risen above my enemies.
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I might quit tomorrow, actually.
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I'm just going to take a little break, you know, a little breaky for me.
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And then we're going to come back.
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And I'm going to start the show over, but I'm the devil, I got to be taking on the air,
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I'm in all this, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you.
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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World
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Order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
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Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
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That's really what I want to do.
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I never want to come back here again.
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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns
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on air.
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I'll be better tomorrow.
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Nah.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Not going to do it.
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Can't.
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So in the interest of being better, I should actually say before we start this episode
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that I have a couple of corrections that I need to make.
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Oh, okay.
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One instance on the last episode I misspoke and then the other I just got something wrong.
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Oh, interesting.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So the first thing, I misspoke.
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I said that Biden resigned the Iran deal and what I meant was that he unfroze that money
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and I just, I bungled that and I apologize.
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I definitely was wrong.
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My bad.
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What are you going to do?
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But the thing I was actually wrong about and didn't realize was Ken Paxton, I said that
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his trial was starting on Monday.
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Yeah.
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So at the end of March, he cut a deal.
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So they made a deal to avert that trial.
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He had to pay 300,000 in restitution, take some classes and do a hundred hours of community
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service.
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But I had gotten an old article and so I whiffed that.
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Here's what I like about that.
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Here's what I like about that.
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When the attorney general clearly shows off how you can flout the fucking law, everybody
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should just be like, okay, fine, we're done here.
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We're done here.
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We had to do a hundred hours of community service.
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The law isn't real.
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Fuck you.
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I mean, how would you, how dare you get, you get into trial with attorney general Ken Paxton
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and not be like, fuck off and then leave the courtroom.
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Fuck off and then leave the courtroom.
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That's it.
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All right.
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Yep.
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Well anyway, I apologize.
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I got that, uh, got that off.
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It's all right.
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We'll move forward.
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Excellent.
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So like I said, it's an anniversary.
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It's a very special anniversary.
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It is the 30th anniversary of Alex's career beginning on air because that's what access
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is, TV and its Heyday on basic cable in Austin.
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Everybody watched it.
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It was super popular.
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Yeah.
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So he's, he's, he's mentioned that he's bringing, he's like, I've been on air for 30 years today.
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Then he starts reflecting sort of on the, on the local access days.
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And of course you always wanted to show at six, seven, eight at night.
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We combine hour long shows.
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You get an hour, a couple of times a week, we combine them together to three, four, five
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hour blocks through special shows and it would show up in the ratings, the local ratings.
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Sometimes my show showed up one time, number two in the ratings after a UT football.
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That was quite the freak out in the newspapers at the time wrote about it, but it was basically
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cameras in a control room and a three phone line phone box with no delay and there was
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no FCC rules on it.
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It was community access.
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So it was a lot of, a lot of crazy callers, a lot of cussing, a lot of people calling
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in death reading.
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It was a very, very interesting to say the least, but we would certainly have a lot of
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fun.
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And so that was how the little pond in which this tadpole swam around.
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That's before the internet, as we know it before I guess chat rooms were coming along
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at that time, but really no video online a few years later, it came along.
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And so thank God for access TV because that allowed me to develop a basic talk radio skills
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so I could then get a job and talk radio a few years later and get syndicated a few years
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later.
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And here we are today.
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What a boring retelling of something that's probably the most awesome time ever.
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I mean, yeah, that's such an exciting time.
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Especially for him, especially where we are now.
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Shouldn't you be going whole hot like, Oh, we were, those were the days we were laid
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up night trying to think of ways to go viral before it was even viral.
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And you kind of get the sense of like that being a little bit of his mood with like,
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you know, we put our blocks of time together and we got into the ratings and, but it's
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just, there's, there's not, there's not a lot of energy behind this, but yeah, he's
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been on air 30 years.
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They end up cheers and some champagne at the end of the show.
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That's not the way to do it.
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But Alex repeatedly is like, I don't want to have champagne.
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It'll make me sleepy throughout the show.
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He's not used to the bubbles.
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Give me some apple juice.
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Yeah.
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His liquor is usually flat.
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Yeah.
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So I just thought, I mean, you know, 30 years on air is nuts, especially for him, somebody
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who threatens to quit constantly, someone who looks like they're about to be forced
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to quit constantly.
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Absolutely.
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And you really think about how many like of these things that happened in his life were
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probably like bizarre coincidences that have allowed him to make it 30 years.
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Yeah.
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I would say he's not unlike a combination of the Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote at the
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same time.
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Wile E. in that he gets into very ridiculous hijinks and the Roadrunner that he seems to
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get away every fucking time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean like obviously I think the great coincidence is maybe not the right word, but like if he
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hadn't have found Ted Anderson, his career would have been dead.
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Yeah.
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Like he would have been an incredibly talented, yelly weirdo, but unemployable in radio during
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the years when he would have needed to be on radio in order to create his career.
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Like he wouldn't have been able to like weather that time period to get to the point where
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the internet is available to game and, and you know, do Google bombs and stuff like that
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to drive absurd traffic to you.
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You wouldn't have been able to do that if you didn't have essentially no boss.
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Yeah.
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It is a lot like, um, because, because of where he was and the time that he was at,
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he was so perfectly placed to take advantage of the opportunity when it arose.
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It's so much like, uh, you know, whenever they, they look at the, the Bill Gates and
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Steve jobs shit and all that, and they're like, Oh, these guys were so far ahead.
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Anytime with like 10 people had access to computers.
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They were two of them.
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Yeah.
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That's how we got here.
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You know, like that was it.
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If you had access at that point in time, that was when you needed it.
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Yeah.
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And Alex was the same way.
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He had a desperate goal, like a sale dude who needed a mouthpiece.
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Just needed it.
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And a bunch of radio stations, uh, he had access to through that.
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If he had to go like the normal path of like rush or like compete against those people,
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like it would have been a disaster.
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You would have fired from every station you ever worked at, I'm sure.
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Um, but Hey, you know, it's, it's, uh, I don't want to like do this sour grapes thing or
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like, you know, if this hadn't happened, he wouldn't have had a career.
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It did happen.
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And he did.
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So I don't want to take that away, but it is, it is just bizarre to like think of that
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three decades.
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Here's what's amazing about that.
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Cause this is what I think of whenever you say, you know, like, Oh, how did he, how does
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it, what if it, what is the world where he tries to come up regular, you know, like if
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he tries to come up in the world that he's in, he's killed, he's squashed immediately.
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He can't be Owen Schroyer because if the boss sees Alex as the second banana, they go, we
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got to get rid of you, man.
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You're too much.
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You've got too much energy.
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You've got too much charisma.
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Like if Alex showed up in 2024 at info wars as himself, totally.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He'd be like, we got to strangle this guy before he steals my job.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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He's trying to take over.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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He just tried to with public access.
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Absolutely.
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Yes.
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Anyway.
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Um, Alex has had a bit of, obviously since Iran sent those drones at Israel, uh, ever
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since then it's been, is this going to be world war three?
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A lot of excitement surrounding that about Israel retaliating.
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Lot of excitement.
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Uh, well for Alex, yeah, you're right.
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It's a world war three kind of stuff and he seemed to talk about that a lot.
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Yeah.
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So when you talk about a subject like this, it's important to consult experts and get
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opinions of people who know a lot of stuff.
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Um, and that's why Alex consults a random person from Twitter.
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Okay.
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This is JD sharp.
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He's a really smart guy.
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He's sharp.
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Uh, I want to get him on the show to give his take on the situation, but I couldn't
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say it any better.
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It's short and sweet.
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Here it is.
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Iran just attacked Israel.
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Here's what's going to happen if the United States gets involved in this conflict.
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Our border has been wide open for three years.
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At least 8 million people have walked across our border in the last three years.
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Thousands of them are jihadists, actual terrorists that have formed cells here in the United
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States of America and they are just waiting for us to get involved in a conflict on behalf
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of Israel with Iran, with Jordan, with anyone that decides to back them.
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Once they do, we're going to deal with a mass casualty terrorist attack on us soil and that
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attack will be used to cancel the 2024 presidential election to enlist probably half a million
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illegals into our military, many of which will have allegiance to different countries
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and obviously start world war three.
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That is what happens if we get involved between Israel and Iran and it sounds like Biden wants
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to and obviously we'll have a draft as well.
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Gen Z, you're going to get what you asked for.
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You're going to be fighting overseas.
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Our veterans will be declared active duty.
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The ones that are retired will be brought back in active duty.
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They'll be sent overseas and if an election does take place, they probably will refuse
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to give power to Donald Trump.
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The United States of America is in one of the most precarious spots that we have been
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in in the last 200 years.
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We cannot get involved in this war between Iran and Israel.
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It will result in a mass casualty event on us soil.
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We will recruit half a million at least illegals into our military and it will result in world
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war three dead on, dead on.
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The world is in chaos.
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World war three is imminent.
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Iran has attacked Israel.
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We take you now to a guy recording himself in his car that I found on Twitter.
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Does he, does he know a lot somehow?
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Is he in the military?
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No, not that I know of.
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Does he have, does he know plans?
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He knows about what you heard and that's not great.
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About what I heard.
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Yeah.
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That's not good.
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That's not enough.
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No.
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That's not enough.
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What the fuck?
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This, like I said, I'm working on, I'm working on this basically new theory that this show
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is just Twitter now.
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Yeah, basically.
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This is just Twitter.
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And so why not?
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Just somebody, hey, someone came across this video of a guy sitting in his car talking
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about Iran and Israel.
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Why not play it?
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He says it best.
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Do you know, it's, it's kind of funny to think about, but in a way, Elon set out to turn
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Twitter into InfoWars.
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So why wouldn't InfoWars just be like, finally, we've, we've got our own platform.
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Synergy.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It makes perfect sense.
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Yeah.
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So there's another person who said that World War III would begin.
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Are they drafting people?
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No.
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Okay.
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Gen Z wants it though.
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I guess they do.
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I guess they do.
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There's another person who said that it would start on sort of similar ways.
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And this is a strange person for Alex to bring up.
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Now here's William Cooper 30 years ago.
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And by the way, when we posted an article about this and I posted this on my ex-account
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Saturday, I saw a bunch of comments saying, you hate William Cooper.
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Why are you promoting him?
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That's a made up fight.
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I think William Cooper was really smart, really good on a lot of stuff.
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He didn't like me at a certain point and got mad at me because there's some edited
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tapes on Y2K out of context.
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ABC News did report a missile was launched out of Russia.
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I reported it and then they said it wasn't a missile.
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It was a missile test and it turned into this whole thing.
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Rest in peace, William Cooper.
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So no one's accusing Alex of not liking Bill Cooper.
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The issue is that Cooper hated Alex and it wasn't just about him sensationalizing a report
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on a missile on Y2K.
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That's a convenient way for Alex to hand wave things away, but Bill did multiple episodes
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of The Hour of the Time about how much Alex sucked.
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He did three episodes about Alex's Y2K broadcast and Alex is doing some serious minimizing
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of the criticism.
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Then on September 26th, 2001, in his ninth to last episode, Bill did a whole show about
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how Alex is a liar titled Alex Jones Liar.
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Bill Cooper straight up hated Alex in the same way that Alex in 2001 would hate the
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present day version of himself.
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And I don't know, it seems very silly for Alex to be like, Bill Hooper called this.
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It is one of those fun things of like, he lionized this guy, hero worshiped him for
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being the real version of what he wanted to be, but he was never the real version.
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He was always the guy who wanted to make all the money and now he's made all the money
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and he's lost all the money.
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He's like, man, it would have been cool if I had been the guy that I'd always wanted
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to be.
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And who's to say that Bill Cooper wouldn't have had the same next chapter?
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Because I think he made that very clear what his next chapter was going to be.
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He had Dr. Wallach and some of those other sponsors and stuff, so there is a chance that
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Bill Cooper, if he doesn't end up getting in a shootout with the police, if that didn't
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happen, I don't know necessarily if he doesn't have, like, I mean, obviously he's not as
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entertaining and bombastic as Alex, but he had a potential to have sold out in a weird
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way.
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Yeah.
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He probably could have too.
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Yeah, that is the question, right?
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And I think it all-
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You die a Bill Cooper or you live long enough to see yourself become Alex.
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I could see the wheels turning in your head.
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Eventually we're going to get there, man.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for helping.
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So Alex plays this clip of Bill Cooper.
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This is really important.
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Listen to William Cooper.
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What role in the Middle East again does Israel play in this?
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Bill was created as the instrument to bring about the battle of Armageddon and the fulfillment
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of prophecy, a war that will be so terrible where nuclear weapons will be used so that
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the American citizens and the other people in the world will get down on their knees
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and beg for no more war.
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And what is the answer to that?
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They're going to be told the only way we can guarantee no more war is if we destroy the
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sovereignty of nations and we come together as one humanity in a one world government.
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Right.
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Read the book of Revelations.
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Whether you believe in the book or not, read it because the men who are bringing this about
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are using it as their script.
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It's not really in Alex's best interest to play clips of Bill Cooper since they kind
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of illuminate how much of his shtick he stole from Bill.
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This whole, even if you don't believe Revelation, the globalists are using it as a playbook
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thing is essentially just like it's a big piece of Alex's rhetoric.
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And here you have someone else espousing the same shit well before Alex and that guy got
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killed by the government.
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So how could he not have more credibility for a conspiracy minded audience?
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I mean, you, you're just, I don't, I don't, it seems like, it seems I wouldn't do this
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viral Alex.
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I, I, you know, why, what, what, what does he got to lose?
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I think maybe self-respect.
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I don't think that's got it.
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Well, I think there's a possibility of his audience seeking out more shit that Bill Cooper
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put out.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Seeing like, oh, this guy's compatible.
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I like this stuff.
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And then, uh oh, what's this episode?
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Alex Jones liar.
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What's this?
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Oh my God.
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What if we had a whole Gen Z, uh, hipster movement of people who are like, ah, fuck
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Alex Jones.
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I'm a Bill Cooper head.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I'm a Father Coghlan guy.
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Right.
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Go even further back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Let's get weird.
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Let's just get real weird with it.
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So, um, Alex starts talking, uh, about some of the, uh, the masons stuff.
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Sure.
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Got it.
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Uh, because I think Bill Cooper set his mind off into thinking about mystery schools and
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what have you.
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Um, and I think he's off on a little bit of stuff.
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And people then single out masons and I'm out here apologizing for masons and say they
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run it.
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The average Mason is not involved in anything bad.
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They're involved in community work.
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You name it.
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George Washington was a Mason.
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But if you type in George Washington's letters on the Illuminati, they're in the national
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archives.
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There's like 15 of them at least that I've read.
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And he talks about Masonry is being taken over by the Illuminati out of France and Germany.
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They're taking over our order and using it for global domination.
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They're trying to take over our new country in America.
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This is when he left the presidency.
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We've got to stop them.
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All masons are was before Christianity and going back to Solomon before that, back to
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the Egyptians, you didn't just get to go to college.
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They were called mystery schools and they taught mathematics and farming and medicine,
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but also had a lot of, you know, a cultic stuff that predated Christianity and even
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predated Judaism.
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And so then Masonry is a vestigial arm of the mystery schools, but there's the real
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mystery schools that are behind that.
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And George Washington talked about it.
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So people ask, how do I square up to use one of their terms, George Washington being good,
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but then Adam Weishaupt is bad.
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Well, George Washington was against Adam Weishaupt and they launched their counter revolution
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against what was launched in America, a counterfeit.
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That's what the devil does.
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And you look at the fruits of our Republic, the whole world wants to get rid of the system
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we have and replace it with this one world government system.
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George Washington was against that.
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Look up his writings on not being involved in foreign entanglements.
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But William Cooper was dead on about the mystery schools.
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And at the end of the day, it's a religious spiritual war and it's a dark occultic satanic
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force behind it.
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Yeah, there it is.
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George Washington and William Russell, September 28th, 1798.
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And that's just one of the letters on the Illuminati.
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You can't make this up, folks.
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You can't.
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You can't make it up.
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Dan.
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William and Alex's staff just googled George Washington's Illuminati letter and this page
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on the Library of Congress came up with the headline, George Washington to William Russell,
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September 28th, 1798, which is a little bit after Washington left office.
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The actual letter that's relevant is also on this same web page, but it's to Reverend
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G.W.
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Snyder from September 25th, 1798.
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Snyder had sent Washington a scary book about the Illuminati and Washington replied, quote,
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I've heard much of the nefarious and dangerous plan and doctrines of the Illuminati, but
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never saw the book until you were pleased to send it to me.
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I believe, notwithstanding, that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with
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the principles ascribed to the society of the Illuminati.
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It's a little different than the way Alex is presenting things, but hey, his version's
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more fun, right?
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Yeah.
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Also, I don't think he knows shit about mystery schools and the history of all that.
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No.
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I'm gonna...
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I think he's winging a lot of this stuff.
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Yeah.
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I bet he didn't even play Assassin's Creed Origins.
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Mm-mm.
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He probably is like, uh, Medjai, it's Medjai, rawr!
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Yeah.
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But it's fun.
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It is fun.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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George Washington's trying to root out the French Illuminati.
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There's never a bad...
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You know, it's a lot like Assassin's Creed.
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Sure.
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Three.
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So we gotta pop some of that champagne, the good stuff.
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Yeah.
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I'm not talking Andre.
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3000?
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No.
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The cheap brand of champagne.
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Oh.
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Right, right, right.
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Anyway, Alex says, wants to celebrate.
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I almost feel like we ought to, you know, get some of that grape champagne, but it's
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not real champagne.
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I don't want to drink some champagne.
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Well, I want to take a nap.
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But maybe somebody should go to a liquor store, get some of the non-alcoholic grape or cherry
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or whatever flavors they've got or apple flavored champagne.
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They say it's not a real toast if it's not alcohol, but I don't want to drink some champagne
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right now.
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I'm not a champagne guy, but we really should pop some champagne because this is the 30th
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anniversary today of the launch of my operations.
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And it's incredible.
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And it wouldn't have happened without God working through all of you.
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So I'm very, very blessed and honored to be here.
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And I hope we have another 30 years, another 30 years, I'll be 80 years old.
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But man, life sure goes by fast, I got to tell you.
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Almost all those original talk show hosts that were anti-New World Order that I worked
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with 30 years ago on AXS TV are all dead.
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Almost all of them are dead.
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But people like Mike Hanson, there was some other folks that are still alive, they were
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mainly UFO guys.
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And you see, that's the thing, I've never been a UFO guy.
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That's that I'm not attacking UFO folks, just that's not my bailiwick.
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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Simfulwars.com.
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Turns out being a UFO guy is good for your health.
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Does seem that way.
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Yeah.
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All the old timers are dead.
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The UFOs are like the people from Okinawa of the conspiracy theory community, they just
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keep on going.
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Everybody's wondering how.
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I don't know, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of alternative medicine type stuff in
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Alex's community.
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Maybe the longevity of some of these folks isn't great.
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If you sell medical things, and then you note, all the people who take this stuff die young,
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it's probably not good.
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If iodine is a cure-all, then yeah, well I mean, Bill Cooper got killed.
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Sure, that one was more self-inflicted, I don't know, inflicted.
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Trying to think of some of the other old timers.
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Red Beckman.
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How did he go?
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Jack Blood.
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I mean, I feel like most of them are more like coronaries, just because they just eat
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so poorly.
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Bob Chapman, he's dead.
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Is Bob Chapman dead?
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He has to be.
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Why?
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Because he's not on the show anymore.
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Well, he could still be alive.
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No, I'm pretty sure he's dead.
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And I know this isn't quite the same thing.
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G. Edward Griffin is still alive.
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Is the Limerick guy still okay?
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Marty Schachter?
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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He was old back then.
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You know what, though?
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I think he might have been younger than you think, because I think saying limericks makes
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you seem old.
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Makes you so old.
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Yeah.
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He might have been like 35.
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Or he could have been 700.
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Yeah.
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If you start talking in limericks, I'm going to assume you're a senior citizen.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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I've run across a couple of episodes with him in my travels, preparing for the tour,
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and it's often not a limerick.
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God damn.
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Just a series of words similar to a limerick, in kind of a similar rhythmic pattern.
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Clunky.
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Oof.
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That's brutal.
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Yeah.
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I would have...
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Oh, God.
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He's not a good poet.
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Most of this episode, Alex wants to take calls, and so we get some interesting perspective
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from some of the Infowars universe, like this person.
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Up next, let's talk to Bart in Georgia.
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Bart, welcome.
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Yes.
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Biden is pretending that the U.S. isn't going to get involved, but what is the end game
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of everything that the Biden regime is doing is to stop Trump.
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And I believe Israel is trying to suck us into this conflict mutually.
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I mean, Biden wants it.
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Well, I was going to say that before the show started, I'm glad we took it.
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Biden's acting like he's against this, but he's behind the scenes.
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They are absolutely lockstep.
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I totally agree.
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And I think the Biden regime is hoping to provoke a major terrorist attack, preferably
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a nuclear attack.
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If New York City was nuked, they're going to cancel the election.
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I mean, they're going to cancel the election if Dallas gets nuked, or, I mean, anywhere.
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I just can't, I can't stand the preoccupation that these folks have that every single goddamn
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thing is just about Trump.
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I know.
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It's so bizarre.
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It's such a tiny lens that they're viewing everything through.
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How does this relate to the fears that I have about my chosen candidate?
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Everything is just trying to foil Trump.
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Yeah.
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But man, how much, you know, like think about how much money is spent getting people to
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believe that attacking Trump is attacking them.
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Like just, you know, like in the daily amount of money people spend, just like, oh, we're
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just going to do an ad buy on Fox News.
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And that's like, they're coming for Trump and that means it's your wallet.
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You know?
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It's true.
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These people have a cosmic background radiation of like, if it's Trump, it's all of you, kind
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of thing.
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And they can't, they, the globalists, can't afford for Trump to get in.
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Right.
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It's, it's very sad to me.
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I don't know what that head space must look like, but it's, it seems grim.
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It does.
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Also, I think maybe the election would get canceled if the US got nuked.
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Yeah.
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I think maybe that's true, but also I don't know if that would be that weird.
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I mean, I'm going to tell you something.
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I mean, it would be definitely very weird.
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I think a lot of people look at nukes far more similar to the Nagasaki and far less
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similar to the years 2024.
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If somebody nukes anywhere, we're all gone.
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I mean, look, probably, but also let's just for the sake of, you know, imagining one nuke
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goes off.
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One nuke goes off.
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I think, I think we're in a situation where maybe the election is not that important right
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now.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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I think, I think food will be heavily important at that point.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It seems strange.
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Fresh water.
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So get a caller who has a point for Alex.
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Yes.
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And this point is, hey, what if the people who are trying to bring about the end times
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are doing so because God told them to, and I think that's a tough argument.
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It is.
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In some ways.
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But my point, we're talking about Israel and everything, the Middle East and all that.
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And you always say that the people are trying to hurry and usher in the coming of Christ.
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And I had a thought that, you know, who's to say that God hasn't called these people
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to do what they're doing, like he's called you and others to do what they're doing.
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I mean, all I have to tell you is no man knows the hour of the time Christ comes like a thief
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of the night.
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I'm not judging these people.
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I'm just saying the globalists, the Rothschilds and others, have piggybacked on revelation
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or trying to control it themselves.
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It's like the movie Dune that's based on an excellent book by Frank Herbert where they've
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had this secret society go and set up this cult on all the planets so when they want
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they can have a messianic system to put their Messiah in.
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But it backfires on them and then the real Messiah comes.
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So I'm not saying...
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Well that's what's supposed to happen anyways, right, with the Antichrist and the Third Temple
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Bible.
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Well I think that's what we're saying is that the first person that comes and says they're
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Christ is the Antichrist.
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So we're saying obviously the first one that shows up is not the real one, is what I'm
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saying.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So it's like Dune.
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It's like Dune, baby.
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Yeah.
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I'm starting to think maybe I need to watch this Dune.
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I don't know anything about Dune.
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I mean we're gonna get there eventually.
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It's clearly the most important thing.
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It's very important.
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Keep coming back to Dune.
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It seems more important than I thought.
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Yeah.
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So is Alex, would you say he's accurately conveying things?
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No.
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What?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I like her because she is asking one of those questions that is like if that question gets
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you at the right time your path in life is completely different.
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But if that question happens to you when you're an adult, you're trapped.
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There's no getting out, you know?
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Well, I think that if Alex were to sincerely engage with this question, it's trouble.
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It is trouble.
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Because the only logic that he can use to defend his point works against his own point.
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It's a... what is it?
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Quicksand?
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It's quicksand.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a rhetorical quicksand.
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There's nothing you can do.
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So anything you do is both God's plan and not God's plan at the exact same time.
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So...
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It's like Dune.
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Yeah, it's exactly like Dune.
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Also be terrible if... he's saying the second messiah is the right one.
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Right.
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The first one shows up, we know he's no good.
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Right.
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It would suck if Alex is wrong about that, he just thinks that the actual next coming
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is an antichrist.
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Yeah, that would be...
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Just because he's like, no, first one in, not gonna believe it.
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That's God's Shyamalan twist.
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Actually, the first one was the messiah.
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Boom!
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You killed the wrong one.
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Tribulation, baby!
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I was gonna let you off the hook if you were nice to him.
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It's very bizarre.
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So, Alex has a guest come in, and it's Pizzagate Jake Pessobic, the king of crying at Comet
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Ping Pong Pizza.
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It's so scary.
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It's very scary.
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It's very scary.
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So he comes in, I don't really give a shit, but this clip I thought was wild.
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I would say to all the neo-cons out there, it's like my message to you guys is to say,
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look, you think you could just go after Iran, you don't even have the kind of military right
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now that could pull off something like that even if you wanted to.
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Not to mention the fact that Iran is not like Iraq, Iran is not like Libya, they've got
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a serious military, they've got two militaries, actually.
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They've got the rocky, essentially the rocky mountains in between Iraq and Syria and where
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Iran, where Tehran and the leadership of the regime are.
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So the idea that this would just be some walk in the park that you guys get to throw down
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on and say, oh, we're going to show how much we support Israel when you got, yeah, you
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got, you got Marines sucking ding dongs all over the place.
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I'm sorry?
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No, this, this is not the kind of military that you'd want to be bringing to this type
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of war.
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You understand?
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The Marines are sucking too much ding dong to be able to fight in Iran.
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If we're going to do, if we're going to do, let's look back on 30 years of stuff, I will,
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I will say this to you.
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If this type of person heard somebody say Marines are sucking ding dongs back then,
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this type of person would not be like, I agree with you.
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This is a very big problem.
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They would be like, how dare you speak ill of them.
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Maybe, but I think the homophobia would be quite welcome.
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The homophobia was pretty huge back then too.
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It was right after Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
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So that's fair.
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Yeah.
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Man, this country's shit.
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It's a strange, it's a strange kind of attack to take on the neocon warmongers.
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Don't you realize that your army's too gay to fight in Iran?
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All right.
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First off, big important thing to point out, any analysis that begins with the geography
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and being able to control it is often the most important aspect of a fight.
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Excellent.
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Any analysis is like, yeah, but too many people suck in ding dongs.
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Bad analysis.
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It's not good.
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It's not good.
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There's been some news though about the Key Bridge in Baltimore and Alex brings this up
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to Pessobic.
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New FBI opens criminal investigation into Key Bridge collapse there at the Port of Baltimore
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in Maryland.
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FBI investigating Baltimore's Key Bridge crash as a criminal operation.
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Chinese cargo owners may face huge bill after Baltimore Bridge collision.
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I don't want to just say everything is an attack, but I've looked at the numbers.
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It's something like triple the different associations say in food processing and other facilities
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burning up and blowing up.
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Is it just a rash of people catching on insurance or is it terrorist?
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Is it environmental wackos?
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You have Biden cutting off the pipelines.
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You have all of these extinction rebellion groups sabotaging things, blocking trains,
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blocking highways.
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But then suddenly since this barge incident happened, there's been like 10 more.
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So there's definitely an uptick.
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So is total incompetence triggering or is something else behind this?
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Is it cyber attacks?
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So the crash is being investigated as a crime, but not as a terrorist crime.
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Not like that.
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Right, right, right.
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Alex is misrepresenting the headline that he's reading, which is from an article about
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an investigation being launched into possible criminal negligence on the part of the boat's
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operators.
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The question at hand is if they knew of any of the possible problems that would make the
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boat un-seaworthy before they left port and chose to ignore them.
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There's no accusation or indication that the crash was done as a deliberate act.
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This is ridiculous.
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Also, that number of food processing facilities that are being burned up really seems to jump
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around a lot.
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Alex was reporting that it was double the normal level a few weeks ago, but now it's
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triple.
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It seems like a decent sign that he's just talking shit, maybe.
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Exponential growth is usually a bad idea.
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The reason it seems like that is because he's just talking shit.
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What Alex is doing is exploiting a bias that all our minds have where, once something is
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pointed out to us, we start to see more examples of that thing and then start to create connections
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between those things.
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In reality, there are hundreds of food processing plant fires every year and have been forever,
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largely due to insufficient enforcement of regulations and the fact that everything that's
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being processed is flammable and the processing itself uses heat most of the time.
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But for the most part, people don't really notice that this is happening because a lot
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of the times the fires aren't very major, and even if they are, it's pretty easy to
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understand how this is just a part of doing business.
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But now, a major plotline of the right-wing media is that the globalists want to shut
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down the food supply.
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This narrative rising up was driven by a number of variables, with the biggest probably being
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the supply chain crunch during COVID, disruption caused by Russia invading Ukraine, and a financial
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incentive rooted in most of these outlets being sponsored by emergency food bucket companies.
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It's a lucrative fear narrative for the outlets like Alex's, so you've seen him jump on
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it and just wildly exaggerate everything for the sake of keeping it interesting.
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He's doing this because he knows that there's a subconscious bias in the brain where he
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implants this idea, then when you're going about your life and you hear about a news
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story about a food plant fire, it'll connect to what he said and feel like confirmation
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of the underlying narrative that Alex has sold you.
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It's almost a certainty that you'll eventually hear about another food plant fire, so it's
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a good game to play, and Alex knows what he's doing.
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The thing with the bridge is an almost identical game.
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The specific situation that happened in Baltimore happens way more than we realize, because
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it never makes the news when a boat loses power temporarily but is able to navigate
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its way safely out to sea.
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It never makes the news when a boat at sea loses power briefly and then continues course.
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But after a major event, like a boat crashing into a bridge, you start to hear some of these
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stories because the media interest is high.
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For instance, earlier this month a cargo ship lost power near a bridge in New York, and
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there were a bunch of stories about it because it was similar to the situation in Baltimore.
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Had the Key Bridge collapse not happened, that New York situation would still have happened
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and you would not have heard about it.
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This creates the perception that these events are happening more frequently than they did
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in the past, which is an erroneous perception, but it's one that Alex can exploit.
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If you accept they're happening more frequently, there's got to be a reason, and Alex has narratives
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that play into selling you a reason for why that is.
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And he knows what he's doing.
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It's a cheap game.
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Yeah, that's like...
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Laying out the bias, that phenomenon that we all experience, transitions something from
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being like, oh, this is nefarious, into being like, can humans even stop themselves from
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doing this kind of thing?
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Because I think if you sit everybody down one-on-one, alone, rationally, you can be
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like, here's why the media shouldn't do this.
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And they go, now that you've explained it to me, I think that does make sense.
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But if you're in the media, if you're in all the pressure of just like, you got to get
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clicks, everybody goes, well, we know that this news event happened and that means that
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people will click on this one.
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So we're just going to do it.
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It's like, nobody's being evil.
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And I think that even sometimes it's probably a well-placed intention.
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Like covering a ship near the bridge in New York is probably like, oh, we're adding more
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information to people who are curious about the story in Baltimore.
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I don't know what the answer is, honestly.
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Because again, it's not a nefarious thing.
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It's not malicious.
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It's just part of who we as monkeys are, you know?
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But I honestly think that it's kind of okay.
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And I don't think it's that harmful, except when it's being exploited like Alex is doing.
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Trying to get more clicks or whatever by being like, oh, there's another ship that went near
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a bridge, I'm not sure if that's the, I mean, obviously it's not ideal, but maybe it's not
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the worst thing ever.
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It's not.
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I mean, there's way worse things.
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But being all of this and then being like, it must probably be sabotaged in cyber attacks
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or something like that, that's the part that I think is where you veer into territory where
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it's like definitely nefarious.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Totally.
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So I would say restraint, maybe.
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Restraint is, again, the hardest thing for people to exercise, I suppose.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know who did practice a lot of restraint?
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Carter?
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I'm guessing this.
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People who were invited to be on Alex's 30th anniversary show.
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Oh, did he, oh, they didn't call a bunch of people.
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I don't know if they did.
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I don't know if they did.
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Oh, man, if they tried to do a This Is Your Life.
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It would have been, they should have done something, like had some big guests, some
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of the greats, Rogan, even, come on, it's your 30th fucking anniversary.
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Sure, sure.
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Instead, here's what we get.
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Nick Bush is a New Zealander, I want to visit New Zealand, I've never been there, and a
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citizen journalist, a father of two, he's a libertarian, he recently deployed a 20-foot
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trailer billboard that reads Infowars on one side and Alex Jones is right on the other,
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starting an unofficial campaign in support of Alex Jones that stands on a main arterial
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route into Auckland, New Zealand.
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This guest is a guy who just put a fucking sign up.
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Just a guy in New Zealand who put a sign up that says Infowars.
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All right.
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All right.
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30th anniversary.
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Okay.
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This is not showbiz.
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I think you have to like your boss to want to throw a like 30th anniversary kind of thing,
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right?
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You don't think anybody at Infowars is like, let's make Alex feel good today.
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Well, I mean, if they wanted to make it feel bad, then like, let's get pachanic.
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Let's do it.
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Oh my god, that would be great.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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He would have shown up.
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He didn't.
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Nope.
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You got the fucking dude who put up a sign into New Zealand.
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It's just another day on Twitter.
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It is.
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It is.
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This fucking show is Twitter.
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It's just another day on Twitter.
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Nobody's there to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Twitter.
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Oh god.
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So this guy brings up one thing that I thought was interesting and then troubling.
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What about the big whistleblower that came out months and months ago and exposed the
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head technician?
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That's right, the Ministry of Health data, Barry Young.
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So when that came out, and I think you had Liz Gunn on the show here and she was interviewing
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Barry and sort of putting that out, I think it was 24 hours later, the New Zealand police
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surrounded his house, armed police surrounded his house.
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Here in New Zealand, the police are so-called, they aren't armed or they don't have firearms
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on their hips.
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And this is a big deal here in New Zealand that our police aren't armed.
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But ever since the Christchurch Moss mass murder event, they have had the firearms in
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the vehicles and they have a lockbox in the vehicles.
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But it was a total overreaction, a total intimidation there to go around.
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All they needed to do was go around to Barry's house, knock on the door and say, look, we'd
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like you to come down to the station and have a chat.
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So this guy thinks that just casually call Christchurch false flag, that seems like kind
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of a shithead.
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Not good.
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Kind of like a huge shithead.
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Maybe the kind of guy who would get booked on Infowars for putting up an Infowars sign.
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So you talk about Barry Young there, Barry was an IT worker at the New Zealand health
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agency Tewatuora and he decided he was going to steal about a terabyte of information from
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them and release it online.
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This was supposed to somehow show that there were tons of deaths from the vaccine, which
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it didn't, but it did include the personal information of over 12,000 people.
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He didn't know that there would be anything damning in the stuff that he stole.
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This was just to create a big thing for anti-vax extremists like Alex to point to, like it's
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some big revelation and then everybody can go and try and cherry pick data from it, try
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and find some new storyline.
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I didn't think this thing that I did maliciously was going to be a crime.
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Yeah.
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Oh well.
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So Alex brought up Dune earlier.
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Sure.
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And he has another thought about a sci-fi movie.
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Sure.
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All right, let me use the sci-fi analogy again.
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I've already made this point, I'm going to do it again.
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I don't know, seven, eight, nine, ten years ago, time flies, Tom Cruise had a movie coming
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off.
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It was pretty good.
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Edge of Tomorrow.
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I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan, but I like the science fiction movie.
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Edge of Tomorrow is good, but one was called Forever War and it's these aliens that attack
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and they basically land in Paris.
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Oh no, that is, it's just a different name.
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Time-space continuum control, so they can just restart each battle until they figure
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out how to beat us.
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There's one guy that's basically psychic for whatever reason and he's forever, I'm going
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for a memory, I haven't seen it in a decade, able to beat it.
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Now imagine if aliens landed in Paris and were blowing everything up and killing everybody
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and we sat here say in Texas or people sat there in Auckland or New Zealand or they sat
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there in Moscow, Russia or Durban, South Africa and said, well that's France getting blown
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up by aliens, we don't care.
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The WF are transhumanist globalist cultists that say the age of humans is over, they're
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going to merge the machines, they're going to become gods, whether that's true or not,
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they want to be aliens.
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I think this is a better metaphor than when he said that his whole thing was like risk.
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Caring about other countries is because there's an alien invasion, that is better than risk,
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because risk is literally a game of global domination.
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But yeah, I didn't see this movie.
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Good?
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Actually it's really good, it's actually a really good movie.
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So the general idea he's got, well kind of right, the aliens, if they die, then they
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just restart from a temporal moment and then they replay that.
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So what happens is Tom Cruise dies at the same time as one of those aliens in the fight
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and so accidentally winds up getting that power.
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So he restarts his life over and over and over every time he dies.
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So then they've got the two, no matter what you do, you'll always win fights going on
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against each other and the point I guess is that it will never end.
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Is that what happens if you die next to somebody who has a super power, you get that super
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power?
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No no no, it's an alien.
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He killed the alien thing, listen, I'm not the one writing this movie, let's not jump
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on my throat for plot issues.
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Also can Klaus Schwab time travel?
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That is a good question.
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Yeah that's something I'm wrestling with.
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I think we should establish, before we can do any other conspiracy theories, who can
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and cannot time travel.
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Oh I can do that for you.
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No one.
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Really?
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Yes.
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Dare you.
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Dare you.
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You dare me to time travel?
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I'll do it.
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I'll do it.
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So anyway, Alex liked that movie.
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Tom Cruise.
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I think he likes more Tom Cruise movies than he's admitting because he loved Top Gun Maverick.
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Let me tell you something, everybody likes more Tom Cruise than they're willing to admit.
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He's the greatest movie star that we've probably had in my lifetime, easily.
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He's up there.
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So we go back to calls, which I am honestly kind of fine putting that New Zealand guy
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as a caller, less than a guest, but Alex considered him a guest, so whatever.
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But this guy, he's got an idea.
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I think we need to worry about our own house.
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I think we need to clean up.
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I think if a third of the nation, at least a third of the nation, because of all the
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crap that's come across the southern border, if not a third of our nation doesn't go down
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to D.C. and demand trials, military tribunals, and put all of the ruling class in prisoner
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shot, it's over.
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Read Jeremiah 50, it talks about a new nation who is made up of a bunch of different people.
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It talks that they'll be destroyed in one hour, and I think it leaves room for people
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returning back to their countries.
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I think it's going to be the coastal line.
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I think what's going on in the Gaza Strip was predicted in like, I want to say Zachariah.
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Why?
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It's been a long time, but it talks about them being lit up, and plus those who rest
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carelessly in the isles, and I think that's our east and west coast.
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Well, you know, I agree with you, because I've read Revelation probably, I'm not going
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to exaggerate.
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Front to back, I've probably read it six, seven times, and I've read Daniel, I've read
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Ezekiel that are foreshadows of it.
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Didn't you expect that number to be higher?
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I really did.
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I thought, honestly, as a joke, I was almost like four, five times.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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You are a fucking apocalyptic doom preacher.
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I mean, I've read it more times than that.
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Me too.
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And I don't like, it's not like a thing I'm into.
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No.
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This is, that's a shockingly low number.
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I think Alex should read Revelation, actually no, he probably shouldn't.
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I mean.
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I would expect that number to be higher.
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I don't know what, maybe he was trying to appear too honest.
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I suppose.
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And really lowball it.
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Yes.
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And the reality is he's never read it.
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He's never read it.
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Not one time.
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I would imagine.
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Not one time.
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Seems unlikely.
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Seems a bit bizarre to imagine him sitting and reading a Bible.
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Also the idea of like front to back too.
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Like the book of Revelation, like it's just, it's not that long either.
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It's not a long, it's a man's dream.
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He was in Greece, he had a dream, wrote it down.
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Not a long book.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, headlines are too long for Alex sometimes.
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That's fair.
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So.
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That's fair.
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You know, this has got verses, it's got chapters.
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That is true, I will admit that.
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That's a lot.
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It was a well organized dream.
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So also fuck this caller for saying crap coming up on the southern border.
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Yeah, I don't like that.
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That's a real piece of shit kind of way to look at people.
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And also a pretty dumb idea.
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A third of the country has to go and demand military tribunals.
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Something that Alex probably should be opposed to.
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I appreciate, you know me.
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I'm an ideas guy.
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Not every idea has to be good.
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I would suggest a lot of the times that people need to say things aloud to themselves first
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before saying them to a public audience.
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Well here's the great news.
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Yeah.
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That guy did say it out loud to himself and the audience.
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Uh oh.
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And then decides to reiterate.
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No.
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Well I, you know, if we don't, if not a third of our nation doesn't go down there and demand
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military tribunals, it's over.
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I mean read Jeremiah 50, it says a new nation made up of a bunch of diverse people.
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Uh, and it says they will shoot their arrows and none of them will miss.
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So we're talking about smart military weapons and it says do to them like they've done to
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everybody else.
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And this nation also has a mother, which would be, you know, obviously Britain.
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So what it's common.
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I don't know when it's coming.
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I, you know, when I first discovered this and I don't know the nineties when I did most
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of my
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not incredible 2000 years ago, they'll fire all of their missiles from another land and
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none will miss and they'll fall in an hour.
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That's nuclear weapons folks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And if, like I said, if a third of this nation doesn't go up and demand and put them on the
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spot right now, right now, it's, you know, they've
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Here's the problem.
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We do a peaceful march on DC.
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They'll detonate a truck bomb and blame us.
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And I agree.
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Marching is good.
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We should be able to do it.
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But how do we get around them?
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False flagging us.
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Uh, we don't, we just have to stand through it and say we didn't say we didn't do it.
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We have to demand tribunals.
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If we, if we don't, it's over.
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Look, if the world does not see us stand up against these thugs,
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Brad, I hear you and I can talk to you for 10 hours with everybody else.
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Let's go to CJ.
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That's how I get to the next great caller.
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I hate handling these red callers.
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These great callers.
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Great callers.
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These great callers are suggesting political ideas based on their interpretation of prophetic
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scripture.
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Yeah.
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This, this isn't serious.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's only like, I don't know, 70% of our presidents.
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I mean, I, some of them have been a little bit more subtle about it.
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So we get another caller and uh, this, this guy and Alex riff a little bit about how great
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Trump would be for the economy.
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I mean, people are out of money and you can't lie about that.
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So what do you expect to happen?
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I don't know, man.
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I kind of hoping that find out an idea on here today that the last guy had a pretty
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good idea.
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Trump will create, Trump will create cheap energy right away and that'll, that'll hurt
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deflation.
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That'll drop it in half.
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We still have substantive at 10% and then he can get a bunch of jobs back, but this
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inflation is so bad.
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It's going to be hard to turn this around for all the way.
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And I mean, can you imagine another term of Biden?
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Are you joking me?
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No, no.
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I can't imagine that.
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That's insane.
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It wouldn't happen.
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There's going to be a civil war if they like fighting.
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It'd be totally obvious that they stole that election.
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Are you joking?
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No, truly.
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I, at first, when Trump was president in 2016, I wasn't the biggest fan of him, but now he's
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like my hero.
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They won him over.
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Through what?
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Being in a dick.
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So I mean, we have this show that is like people bandying about biblical prophetic scriptures
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and nonsense.
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And then also just, it is concretely understood that Trump will win the next election.
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And if not, then it was stolen.
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And if it was stolen, then we have to have a civil war because we can't have four more
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years of Biden.
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Right.
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So that's cool.
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That's the temperature of his callers.
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That's that's that's what I would clock this at.
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It's pretty bad.
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Pretty bad.
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Yeah, that's not good.
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That's OK.
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Still just April.
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I understand that.
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OK, I get that.
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But what of the what of the.
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I'm trying to think of a four year stretch where you could legitimately say, like, if
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we have another four years of this president, shit's going to go fucking bad.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like including the pandemic, right?
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Even Trump had to be like, we'll make a vaccine.
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You know, like even even the pandemic had a vaccine faster than in any point in human
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history.
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Right.
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Right.
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So what four year stretch could you legitimately be like, if we have another four years of
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this president?
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We're all dead.
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I don't know if we're all dead, but another four years of Trump would have been really,
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really, really bad.
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Yeah, it would have been really bad.
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Will be really, really, really bad.
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Well, I guess any two term president, if we had a third one, then it would be bad for
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what it portends about.
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Except for FDR.
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Well, sure.
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Right.
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That's different.
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Right.
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Let's see.
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You should also not be allowed to be a Supreme Court justice at the same time as your president.
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True.
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That's probably not good.
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We should really write that down.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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I think I think what we're coming to is there's more rules about the Supreme Court, too.
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That's something we should we should put a pin in that.
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Get back to it.
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Couple but.
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So we get another caller.
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This is how we're going to sort of wrap things up because I mean, he talks to that guy from
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New Zealand for a bit.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Well, he put up a sign.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's always nice to talk to people.
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New Zealand accent is a delight to talk to.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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And I think that World War Three has started.
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Oh!
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The Third World War is started.
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And why I called in was about narrative.
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We need to understand that the Third World War is a narrative war.
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And that's the prescience of what Infowars is about.
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I think nobody on the planet has been called a conspiracy theorist more than you.
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And all your listeners have been called conspiracy theorists because of the attacks that have
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come upon them from their friends, their neighbors.
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And I think we need to stand up against that.
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And I've coined a term and I want to know if Infowars wants to coin it as well, called
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conspiracy denialism.
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Oh, I love that.
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Conspiracy denialism.
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The CIA created the term after they killed Kennedy.
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That's declassified in the 70s.
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The Frank Church Committee, in 64, a few months after they killed Kennedy in 63 in November,
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they coined the term conspiracy theorists so they wouldn't have to debate a fact.
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They'd just say, oh, that's conspiracy theory.
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Conspiracy denialism, or reality denialism, that's a great term.
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This is cute and all, but Alex is full of shit about the term conspiracy theorist.
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And this caller is basically just trying to come up with some way for him to say, I'm
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rubber, you're glue.
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This is schoolyard shit.
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Let's brand little whiny arguments, yeah.
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So the issue for him is probably that he can't ever really prove any of the very definitely
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documented conspiracies that he hears from people like Alex, and it's getting frustrating
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not having people believe him.
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The burden of proof is on him, because he's making the claims, and that kind of sucks.
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However, if you just pretend that you've proven all your claims and that the other person's
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in denial about how right you are, you can shift that burden of proof onto them.
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Now the problem isn't that you've failed to make your point, it's they've failed to disprove
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you.
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Yeah.
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They're saying it's a fun game, good for you, enjoy annoying your friends and family even
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more.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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I like the ability to take something like climate denialism, wherein the science has
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been proven for a long time, years, decades.
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We've already gone through the arguments, we've already done all of it.
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Now it's denialism, because we just can't do it anymore, right?
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And so they've taken that and they're like, well, what if we are wrong, but we do the
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exact same thing?
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More or less, I mean, that's the path that this guy is suggesting.
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Yeah, fascinating.
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Also, World War III is a narrative war, is a fun way to be like, we're gonna talk shit.
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If you describe a war as a narrative war, it is happening.
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Sure.
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Because you have made it happen with the narrative you are spitting about the war.
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You have unilaterally invaded reality with your narrative.
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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And that sucks.
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It does.
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So, I mean, look, here, it's the 30th anniversary.
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Oh, God, don't make anything my 30th anniversary as sad as this.
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It just wasn't anything.
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It was nothing.
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It wasn't much of anything.
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Alex is just kind of, I mean, I think he obviously doesn't want World War III, but he kind of
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is disappointed.
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At one point in the show, he plays, like, he's gonna go live to an IDF press conference,
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and I think there was a part of him that was hoping for something exciting, but they don't
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announce any attack, and there's a little bit of a, ooh, this fell flat a little bit.
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You know, it's not good for the Infowars model of entertainment, it's not news, but, like,
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it's not good for that model for calmer heads to prevail and there not be, like, a retaliatory
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strike and the U.S. get involved.
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That stuff is really good for Alex.
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And I think that because that's not happening, but it's also a big deal that Iran attacked
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Israel, he's stuck in a weird state.
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Yeah.
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And that sucks.
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It sucks to have a 30th anniversary show, and the only guest you have is Jake Pessobic
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and a guy from New Zealand who put up a sign.
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I wanted that glitz.
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I wanted, get Ron Paul back.
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How hard could that be?
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Ron Paul's still alive?
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Yeah.
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And, see, now that's a guy you expect to die younger than he has.
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Yeah.
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Old timer.
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Old timer.
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You'd think, huh?
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What you gonna do?
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Dr. Paul coulda come on!
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I was about to say, you'd think racism, but then I was like, how long did George Wallace
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live?
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I think he lived for a long fuckin' time, so.
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He may have.
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Yeah.
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Get George Wallace on!
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Get George Wallace on!
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Why not?
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You're firmly on segregation forever!
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Alex's hero, Gary Allen, the guy who woke him up to the New World Order, was a George
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Wallace speech writer.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's do this!
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Or get Ted Allen, the guy from Chopped.
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He'd be fun, too.
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Sure.
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Yeah!
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Get, uh, Ted Danson.
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Get Ted Danson!
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Get him!
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Get him!
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I dare you!
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So, Ted Danson would have been a better guest.
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Ted Danson would have been a great guest.
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Um, I don't know.
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It's just disappointment, I guess, really.
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I could have, I could have listened to, if I'm being honest, an entire show where Alex
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just reminisced about, like, the basic access.
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Yeah.
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Cable access days, or something like that.
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That would have been great.
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Yeah.
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Or had, like, some, or had Owen, like, interview him about those early years.
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That might be interesting.
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I don't think any of it would be honest.
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No, no, obviously not.
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And Owen's a shit interviewer, so.
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Yeah.
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But somebody good, maybe.
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I assume some of those people have gotta still be around some of those people that he was
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on those shows with.
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Well, a lot of them have.
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His name, Jeff Davis, who used to be on Public Access with a lot, not Jefferson Davis, close,
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but not.
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Okay.
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Um, I don't know if the, I think Guy's still around, but, uh, that would have been an interesting
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guest.
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We are very interesting, seriously.
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Hmm.
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Oh, well.
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Anyway, it was what it was.
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Here's to 31.
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Oh, God.
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Anyway.
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Oh, boy.
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We'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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I'm a blues guy.
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We are a blues guy.
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It's knowledgefight.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Neo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.