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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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Dan and Jordan.
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maximize
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Need money.
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willingly
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and..
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stop it this time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I am a huge fan.
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I love your world.
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Knowledgefight.com.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to another Try Damn Dab.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit
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about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is, it was our anniversary on Monday, as everybody recalls, we went to,
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we actually did something.
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Oh.
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And we went to a spa.
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What?
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Yes.
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What kind of spa?
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We went to a spa.
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They called it a spa, but it's really just a bathhouse.
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I thought you said spot.
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No, no, no.
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Spa.
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Oh, okay.
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Spa.
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It was a bathhouse in Chicago.
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We're not bathhouse people.
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Right.
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That's what we found out.
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We're not bathhouse people.
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We're not massage people.
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It makes me feel uncomfortable.
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It is not a pleasurable experience.
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Sure.
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You know.
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I mean, what is it?
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Just a place that's a lot of showers around?
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It's all wet?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it doesn't sound so terrible.
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It's a bunch of pools with different levels of heated water.
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Some of them have more salt.
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And other people sitting in them, I assume.
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Oh, you better believe it.
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Hanging around.
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Absolutely.
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Yep.
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Saunas with smells.
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Smellness.
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Aromatherapy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Uh-huh.
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There's a pool that's really cold.
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That'll teach you.
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Sure.
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I mean, you got to shock the system a little bit.
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Absolutely.
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Right?
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So, I mean, did you get massages?
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That was that.
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So it was like...
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That's what I'm picturing too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I got this, obviously, it was an anniversary thing, you know?
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It was like, it's how we do things.
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They bring out the rose petals.
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It's a taste of the bourgeois for the poor.
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Sure.
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That kind of thing, right?
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And I just want to burn down the bourgeois.
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That's it.
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Well, you're not going to be able to because there's water everywhere there.
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I mean, that's the problem.
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Also, quiet.
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Couldn't talk loud.
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Had to whisper.
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I was almost kicked out the moment they saw me.
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Yeah.
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They were like, I feel you in the ether sphere.
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I think that's good though.
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Probably.
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I mean, I think everything else is aimed towards relaxation.
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Right.
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And you screaming probably isn't conducive to that.
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But people would have a good time.
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If you just screamed at them while they were in the cold water.
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It's freezing in here!
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Sure.
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That's probably going to help.
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That's what they want.
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That's probably going to help.
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Therapeutic.
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Screaming.
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I think so.
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I think so.
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Stress, yeah.
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Sure.
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How about you?
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I did not go to a spa.
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Oh, no?
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No, but that HBO documentary came out.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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The Truth vs. Alex Jones.
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Indeed, yeah.
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The Truth vs. Alex Jones.
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Yeah.
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And I think it does a good job.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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That's really cool.
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I think that a lot of the times you can rely on us for salty criticism of things, and no,
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I think I came away from it with a lot of like, oh, that told the story in a compelling
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way that I think is emotionally impactful.
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And yeah, I think it's good.
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That's awesome.
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Should enjoy.
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That's great.
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I haven't seen it.
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There's a part of me that just doesn't want to see it like I was there.
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You know, there's a part of me and then there's also the part of me that's like, I don't know,
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after having met some people, and I don't know if I can watch interviews with, you know
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what I'm saying?
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The part that I think is difficult for you or I to have much of a review or anything
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of it is a lot of the information is stuff that we've already, we've known and we've
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covered and I think outside of some of the stories and stuff from the family members
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and stuff, it's mostly stuff that isn't totally new information to us.
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So from that angle, it is kind of like, maybe you don't need to see it.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no.
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I mean that, yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's normal.
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But well done.
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Good job.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about the 26th of March, 2024, and that is because it's the
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day after or the day of, I guess, because it was early in the morning of the Francis
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Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore collapsed.
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And so I wanted to see Alex's take on it and see where he was going with things because
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obviously...
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Yeah.
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Well, there's no way it's just going to be an accident.
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Yeah.
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You'd think that.
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I'm sorry?
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There's a lot of possibilities that are thrown around.
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Oh my God.
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Okay, fine.
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We're going to run out of business on this and Alex's myriad thoughts.
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But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, I hope to someday love someone half as much as Jordan loves tennis.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, praise be to Selene from Josh in Texas.
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Hi VW.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, screaming WTF from Vancouver Island.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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I'm going to take a bucket of poop so I can tell my mother from Friend of Satan.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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And I'm Annie Fanny Fox's human brother who is taking the lack of a DC show as a personal
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insult included that last bit as a timestamp when you get to this in 2025.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I specifically told Jordan to make a DC show.
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We got Baltimore.
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So it's close.
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It's close.
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Blame me.
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I will take responsibility for all things.
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No, blame venues in DC.
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I will.
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Listen, I do.
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That's what we'll do.
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I do.
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So, Jordan, we start this off.
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And Alex has a bit of a take.
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I think there's a bit of a cover up of the footage of the bridge being hit.
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There's a cover up of the footage?
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Yes.
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For those who don't know, there was a cargo ship, lost power, veered off course, and hit
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one of the supports of the Francis Scott Key Bridge at like 1.30 in the morning, or so
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bridge collapsed.
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And Alex believes they're telling people, don't show the footage.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the governor of Maryland has asked the media not to show footage of
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the collapsed bridge.
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That is something entirely new.
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Did you hear the government say don't show footage on 9-11?
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But now we're seeing reports that social media like Facebook is trying to block it.
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So Alex has some basic details wrong here.
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It wasn't the Maryland governor who made this request.
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It was Baltimore's mayor, Brandon Scott.
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His comments were directed towards media outlets like CNN, not social media, and the reason
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he gave was, quote, no one needs to see the possibility of their family member being severely
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injured or otherwise over and over again.
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It's just traumatizing our community.
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And so I think there's a fair point that he makes, but I don't think there was any censoring
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of that video.
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No, no.
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It was all over.
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I think if you wanted to see it, you saw it.
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Yeah.
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I think even if you didn't want to see it.
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I didn't want to see it, and I saw it.
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It's terrifying.
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I think especially before you realize that they were able to stop traffic on both sides.
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Yeah.
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Now granted, I'm not trying to take away from or minimize the fact that there were
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construction people who were on there who were missing and unaccounted for in a presumed
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dead.
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But you see a bridge collapse and your mind goes through, there must be a ton of cars
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on there.
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Yeah.
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And so out of context seeing it is certainly robustly horrifying.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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It is just like a reminder of the fragility of things that is like, hey.
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And then at the same time, it's like, hey, if you throw 15,000 tons at something, it's
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going to break.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's not much that can be done.
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There's not much that can stop 15,000 tons.
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I'm not positive what sort of bridge can withstand that kind of impact.
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God knows.
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But the boat lost power, and Alex has some thoughts about how they all require backups.
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They all require backup power.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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The governor, oh, hey.
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We got the clip we'll play in a moment, don't show the footage.
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There's nothing graphic.
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You don't see people being crushed or dying, though they are, though they're in the water.
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That's been reported.
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You have this huge bridge collapse.
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You have the power go out on a ship.
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And I've done some research, those ships have battery power for at least lights around and
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in the ship that kick on.
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And so I made some calls, did some research, and I noticed that General Flynn is saying
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the same thing, that those ships of that size, by law, to be able to come into a port like
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that, it's a hazardous waste port, one of the biggest in the U.S., have to have all
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these emergency battery systems and generator systems where you would not have the main
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steering cut out for that long, maybe a second, if a primary system went down.
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Even with the generators that automatically kick on fail, we, because of the power outages
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now caused by the feds not letting Texas produce enough electricity during the winter and summer
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peak times, had to put in a $70,000 generator to run both buildings here.
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And then it was another $70,000, $80,000 to run the wires and all the expensive systems
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you've got to have to be in code.
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And this is not that big a building.
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Those ships have generally one of that size, have up to ten large generators on them.
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And normally two levels, by law it's two levels of backup generators, we can open the phones
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up and have maritime professionals, and boy are they professionals, call into the show
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and explain it to you, and they'll probably explain where I get some things wrong a little
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bit but in general I know I'm right, they can give you the specifics, and so we're going
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to do that right now.
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So he does.
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Right now.
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He opens up the phones here in a little bit for maritime professionals.
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Maritime professionals.
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I know that it's a serious situation and I don't mean to make light of it, but I do wish
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someone had called in and just recited the lyrics to the Downeaster Electa by Billy Joel.
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I thought that would be, I was hoping someone would do that.
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That would be fun.
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So even assuming that everything Alex is saying is accurate, then it still seems the issue
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at hand is that there just wasn't solid enough enforcement of existing regulations.
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Inspection regimens, things like that, that seems to be what the issue would be as opposed
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to some kind of a nefarious plot or anything that your mind might go to.
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These ships don't need to have emergency backup systems in order to come into hazardous waste
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ports, as Alex is seeming to imply, they need them to be on the open water.
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The International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea says, quote, every passenger
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ship, the electrical power of which constitutes the only means of maintaining the auxiliary
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services indispensable for the propulsion and the safety of the ship, shall be provided
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with at least two main generating sets.
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The power of these sets shall be such that it shall still be possible to ensure the functioning
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of the services.
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Right.
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So even if one thing goes down, it's supposed to have something else that can autonomously
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run it.
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No one's getting stranded at sea.
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The Dolly, the ship that crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge, had a backup generator
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and sources are saying that it did kick in, but the ship never regained the ability to
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steer.
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The ship's local captain had them drop anchor and rudder to try and slow it down, but that
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wasn't enough.
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Thankfully, they were able to send out a May Day call, which allowed traffic to be stopped
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on the bridge, which almost certainly saved a bunch of lives.
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There's no sign that I've seen in any of this story that points to anything nefarious having
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happened.
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At worst, it seems like there was a non-critical issue that was found with the boat in an inspection
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in Chile last June, but outside of that, there's no reason that you would see this, I think,
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and say it wasn't just a terrible accident.
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Yeah.
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Regulations governing things like boats needing to have backup generators help make accidents
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less likely to happen, but that doesn't mean that it always will.
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Sometimes people cut corners, and even when people don't, catastrophic failures can still
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happen, and it's just an unfortunate reality.
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Yeah.
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Also, Alex is entirely wrong about the reason for ERCOT's failure to provide power during
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the Texas winter storm.
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No, no, no, no.
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It was the feds.
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It has nothing to do with people inside of Texas who don't want the feds anywhere near
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their power grid and specifically say so.
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It was their fault.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Makes sense.
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Yeah, it makes sense.
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So, Alex has realized that Michael Flynn, General Michael Flynn, is talking about this,
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and so he's like, I gotta get Flynn on.
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Oh, no.
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So, this is a big deal.
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That port is now shut down.
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The ships can't get out.
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No one can get out.
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Arguably the second largest, if not the largest, there's big ones in Houston, chemical holding
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facility in the country.
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It's undoubtedly the biggest on the East Coast, and that's why General Flynn, who's the former
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head of Defense Intelligence, is saying this is a major black swan event.
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In fact, producers, call Flynn, please, and if his producer doesn't answer, I've got his
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number.
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Come get my phone.
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Call him.
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I know he's a busy guy.
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So, you might ask what Alex's definition of a chemical holding facility is.
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That is a good question.
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Seems like it's just a nonsense term that he's using to create tension around this story.
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And by any definition, the Port of Baltimore is not the largest chemical holding facility
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on the East Coast.
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I don't know what the definitions are, he's never, he doesn't specify.
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Right.
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Also, the term black swan event is getting hot with conspiracy folks, so you can expect
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to hear a bunch of that in the future.
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Ironic considering the name meaning how infrequent it should occur.
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And how often they're thrown around.
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And everything probably will be suspected of being won, at least until the election.
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Here's what I think.
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Okay, if Alex says chemical holding facility, my brain goes to wherever they can make The
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Joker.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Vats.
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Like, somebody gets pushed, there's vats, and then The Joker happens.
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Right.
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Right?
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Like, that's what we're talking about.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Like, we're talking about just somebody holding the correct amount of something to help make
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something later.
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Right.
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Or things that are in transit from boats to eventually be offloaded.
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Or hazardous materials that could include oil.
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Yeah, totally.
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Or gas.
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It could include formaldehyde, you know?
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That's a chemical, right?
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You don't want to push The Joker in there?
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Absolutely not.
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He'll stay like that forever.
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Right.
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So Alex says, get me Flynn.
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And one thing that I was really surprised by is that Flynn shows up almost immediately.
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Jesus.
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Is he not busy?
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Minutes later.
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Is he not busy?
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Alex just said he was busy.
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Fucking hell.
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But I'm not sure if he is.
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We have General Michael Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, former
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top national security adviser to President Trump.
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He's very busy, but we appreciate him on emergency notice popping in.
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We've got an article on Infowars.com dealing with it.
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And also go to his website and to his ex-account and get the latest.
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General, you've been warning of a Black Swan event.
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We're seeing record levels of food processing facilities and energy switching stations and
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refinery fires and explosions, not just here, but around the Western world.
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I read the reports that statistically we're seeing about triple the number of these that
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we normally see.
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So obviously that means some of this is just normal accidents, but a lot of it is some
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type of sabotage.
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You're saying this appears to be a Black Swan event.
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What do you mean by that?
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Can you lay it out for us?
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So first of all, Black Swan events are usually from the financial world, right?
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Well, this actually will back the financial world for sure.
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But these are events that happen that you just can't imagine that something like this
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is going to happen.
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There are ships that transit every Port Harbor Bay, particularly the large ports like the
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Baltimore Harbor every single day, multiple times a day.
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And for something like this to happen, this complete violation of all standards and norms,
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they have what's called a SOP, standard operating procedures, that every single ship's captain
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has to go through prior to taking off from the dock itself, actually prior to getting
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on the ship.
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So everything that I see here, and the jury is going to be out for a while.
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I was asked earlier today, Alex, can we take the idea that this was a terrorist attack
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off the table?
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And absolutely, we cannot do that.
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Let's not do that, all right?
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Let's not take terrorism off the table.
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It's definitely possible this was terrorism.
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There's a part of me, honestly, like how do we not have more of these kinds of accidents?
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If that makes sense.
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Like when you think about how many car accidents and shit we have, the number of people behaving
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irresponsibly, I'm surprised we aren't hearing about more boating accidents.
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There is a caller who calls in later who talks about being in a similar situation, and there
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are similar situations that have happened and probably do happen, and they're unfortunately
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not the perfect set of circumstances where the boat ends up crashing into a bridge.
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This probably does happen a lot.
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It's just on open water or something where the consequence doesn't happen.
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Well, I mean, and if the boat was like 30 feet to the left, then it might have just
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gone straight through and hit the ground.
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It's so crazy how specific.
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And then you probably wouldn't hear about this.
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You'd be like, oh, a boat ran aground.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And so there are, it is because of all of the circumstances and all of the variables,
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it is like a huge bit of news.
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Yeah, totally.
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But remove a couple of the variables, remove one of the variables, and now it's something
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you wouldn't hear about.
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And that's why you don't hear about it as often.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So Flynn, I mean, obviously, sure, keep in mind that it could be a terrorist attack,
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but don't give it, why would you give it that much credence that it is with no other information?
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Because it's more fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I just feel like this one isn't going to move the needle on the terrorism scale.
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Well, that's why you need to add other variables.
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Okay.
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Now I'm listening.
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And so that's what General Flynn does.
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Good call.
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The other thing that I'll, that I'll bring into this, I'll bring into this because these
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are events that are happening too often now, this, this attack in Russia, the Russians
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are now saying, Russians are now coming out and saying that the UK and the US were behind
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the attack in Moscow.
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And then all of a sudden we have this event here.
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Now, you know, I think one of the things that we do have to, to remember is that, as I heard
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coming in this morning early that, that there were at least six bridge workers that were
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on that bridge, working on that bridge, and there were obviously some cars that are unaccounted
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for now.
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So there's going to be people that probably tragically lost their lives because of this,
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because of this incident.
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And I'm going to call it an incident.
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I'm not going to call it an accident just yet.
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We've all seen the videos where the lights went out on the ship.
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We've all seen the black smoke coming out of the top of it before they, you know, and
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I said in my, in my post this morning that people ought to look, start with the Harbor
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Master because the Harbor Master has to answer a lot of questions about, you know, were standard
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operating procedures followed to the letter.
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Yep.
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So the Moscow attack, the city hall, Crocus City Hall is being tied into this.
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Okay.
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The US and the UK are being blamed for the Moscow attack?
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By the FSB.
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Oh, really?
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Well, it's sort of, in a way.
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Okay.
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All right.
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It's kind of like they trained Islamic terrorists.
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Okay, so we trained ISIS to attack Russia.
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Sure.
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That would be a, that would be a turn for us.
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Yeah.
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So, so those kinds of accusations are flying around.
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Sure.
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Ultimate responsibility as opposed to like UK and US actually set this up and did it.
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Right, right, right, right.
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And so yeah, Flynn is, these incidents, these events are happening too much and so there
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must be some kind of connective tissue to them, which is very weird.
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I'm going to go with SPECTRE.
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I'm going to go with SPECTRE and why not Hannibal Lecter?
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Because if it rhymes, it's true.
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SPECTRE and Lecter.
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Yep.
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So also the thing that, the irony that you should not kind of ignore is the standards
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that they're demanding everyone follow are international law.
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Right.
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So they're demanding an imposition of globalism onto the shipping sector or whatever.
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So there's, there's a little bit of kind of, they seem to miss that.
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I wonder what are the American, are there like specific American ones that they should
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be more like, hey, I know the United Nations demand this, but because American standards
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are different, this is actually good.
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I'm not sure.
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Right?
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I'm not sure.
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You'll never know.
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Uh huh.
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I mean, I'm sure we could look it up.
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I mean, there is a demand that there should have been like, there needs to be tug boats
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everywhere.
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It's like, well, there, you know, you would probably say that if companies were being
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forced to have tug boats tug out or guide out ships longer than was necessary, that
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was an imposition upon business.
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But in this case, it's like, you know, people, people only use the tug boats as much as they
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need to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, there, there's an attempt to create suspiciousness at every, every turn.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's a certain amount of like, uh, sure, uh, yeah, I mean, okay.
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You want this problem to be corrected.
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Let's start from where you would need to start from to get there.
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And you're like, okay, well, executive pay is, is lowered and bonuses are no longer tied
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to stocks.
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You know, like that's where you have to start in order to get to tech boats.
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It is a point.
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Yeah.
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So you're just trying to make this suspicious.
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That's what Flynn's game is, uh, as best he can, right?
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This is, they're going to try to blame this on the construction of the bridge and they're
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going to distract.
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People should not be distracted by those kinds of elements.
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This is, there's a lot, there's a lot worse things that, that, uh, that we're going to
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find out from this particular incident and nothing can be taken off the table.
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We definitely have people who can, uh, who can investigate these.
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We have really good, talented people who can investigate these types of things.
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Somebody said to me this morning, well, the FBI would immediately get involved here.
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And I was like, no, they shouldn't.
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I mean, the FBI is not the best to investigate this right now.
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There are other maritime agencies and activities that we have that are very professional and
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very capable of doing the, doing the work.
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And like I said, I would start with the Harbor master because the Harbor master has a lot
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to answer for in terms of what, uh, procedures were followed or not followed.
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And then there has to be a, a, uh, you know, a complete sort of reversal or backward examination
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about everything that has occurred with that crew of that vessel, the vessel itself, what
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was in those container ships, everything.
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I mean, there is going to have to be an incredible level of detail.
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And then the other breaking news that I just heard this morning that I said right up front,
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Alex, is the Russians are now, uh, appear to be blaming the United Kingdom and the United
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States for the attack in Moscow.
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I mean, Jesus, whenever we have these, these horrific leaders in charge of our country,
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which we do right now, these are the kinds of things that begin to happen and we cannot,
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you know, we just can't have these kinds of these, and I don't want to say foolishness
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because these are dangerous.
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These are really, really dangerous times.
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And so anyway, I talked about a Black Swan event the other day because I just felt like
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just there's so much activity and so much noise and we're being distracted over the
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really over the things that truly matter.
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And and I just felt that I felt that in my gut and boy to me, this is one of those things
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that I that, you know, you just you can't imagine.
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I didn't I didn't I didn't wake up this this morning thinking that this was what this is
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what we were going to have.
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And I thought maybe, you know, another terrorist attack or something like that, because we're
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we've had invading forces coming into our country, just like we just saw over that happened
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in Russia.
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OK, so I think it's clear that he wants you to be suspicious.
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Right.
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And I think the implication is very obvious that he keeps bringing up the idea that the
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UK and the U.S. are behind the attack in Moscow to connect to this.
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Right.
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And obviously this is an attack of some sort.
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Right.
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Is it a false flag that we're doing on us to get into a war with Russia or is Russia
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doing it to us or is it actually ISIS?
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There are so many possibilities.
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And who knows?
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All right.
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I'm going to throw this out at you.
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Yeah.
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The Ba'ath party still in power.
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This is this is something we've heard.
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OK.
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Saddam.
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It's tied to Al-Qaeda.
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And here we are.
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It makes perfect sense.
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I think you you have you have a theory, you have a premise, and it is just as valid as
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all the other shit that's being thrown out by these these guys.
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So here's the thing you need to understand.
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Symbolism.
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OK.
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I did not think of that.
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You should.
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Black Swan event.
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Always think about symbols.
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No, it's a Black Swan event.
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It's going to have to be a review of the of the infrastructure itself.
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But that bridge was fine to jot, you know, the Francis Scott Key Bridge, right?
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It's actually it's a very symbolic bridge.
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Don't say that Francis Scott was the guy that wrote the national anthem during the during
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the war of 1812 in the United States of America.
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Very, very.
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You know, there's there's symbolism in a lot of things here.
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So I know what I'm telling you, Alec, and what I'm telling your your your audience is
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that we have to pay attention to every single aspect of what just happened.
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And it's got to go back even even months back.
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Where did this ship come from?
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Every single detail to the minute level.
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So this clip pretty well sums up the idiotic thinking that people like Alex and Flynn engage
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in.
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There's two major points being made here, and they both lead you to pointless spaces.
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The first is that the ship hitting the bridge is somehow a symbolic attack on the bridge
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because it's named after Francis Scott Key.
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This is a mentality that encourages people to imagine connections between things and
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then ascribe meaning to those connections.
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There's literally zero information that Flynn has that backs up the idea that this crash
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happened on purpose, let alone that the name of the bridge made it a symbolic target.
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But that's the kind of thinking he wants to normalize in the audience.
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The second is this insistence that every little minute detail needs to be examined.
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Obviously, I believe there should be appropriate investigation of the crash and that we need
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to get to the bottom of what happened.
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But that's not what Flynn is calling for.
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He wants to go on a perpetual fishing expedition where every detail is poured over in a search
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for things that confirm his predetermined conclusion.
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He's decided this wasn't an accident, and the goal is to find anomalies that can be
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passed off as furthering that conclusion while ignoring everything else.
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These are two fantastic tricks that people like Flynn can use in the aftermath of an
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event to cast wild suspicion on things without having any actual information to go off of.
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There's no information here.
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Yeah.
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This is just a shit talking.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's just, it's a little bit like, oh, let's go on a witch hunt, all right?
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Now, I understand that witches aren't real, but that's not important.
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Right.
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We need to find evidence that these are witches again.
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I don't care that they're not real.
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I don't care that there's no evidence.
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Actually, there's a frog in our backyard, it's a witch.
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Yeah.
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Moving on.
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This is, there's some sort of a detail that we find by pouring over months and months
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of shit and then, ha ha, false flag.
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Done.
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Done.
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Also- Attack on Francis Scott Key.
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Okay.
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But here's the thing.
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All right?
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This is what you have to then admit to yourself, and you have to play it out in your mind.
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You have to play out terrorists sitting around brainstorming with the whiteboard, which presidential
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slash historical name for a bridge means we should attack it.
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Right.
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But here's the thing that we can do away with that concern immediately.
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Okay.
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And that's because the people with the whiteboard are the globalists who are trying to attack
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freedom and America.
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Sure.
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So they're the ones who have planned out the symbolism of the targets.
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Okay, fine.
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Then we've got that.
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But still, that means that there are other bridges with other names that could be symbolic.
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True.
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Did somebody narrow them down?
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Okay.
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We got the five most symbolically named bridges for this attack.
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I imagine you could find symbolism in any name.
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I'm not familiar with the history of Crocus City Hall, but I imagine if you wanted to
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find some symbolism there, you probably could.
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I don't know.
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It's just the imposition of imagined connections and assuming that they mean something.
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That's just not a good thing patterned.
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Numerology, yeah.
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So I was like, Flynn fucking showed up immediately.
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I was like, why did he do that?
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Good question.
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And I think I figured it out.
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Okay.
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Boy, I was hearing a lot of scuttlebutt about Flynn movie at Flynnmovie.com.
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And Tucker Carlson is huge in it, a bunch of other heavy hitters.
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This is just going to be amazing.
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It premieres coming up very, very soon.
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General Flynn's about to give us the insight on that and then comment on the Russia situation
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of So Serious.
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And Israel getting ready to carpet bomb Rafa 200-something days after the election.
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But here's the trailer that you can find and get tickets and more at Flynnmovie.com.
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Here it is.
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Yeah.
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So I think he's promoting a movie.
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I think that's probably part of why real excited to immediately show up.
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Extremely available when promoting a movie.
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I think so.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So they play the trailer and then they get into talking about the attack on Moscow.
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Sure.
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And Flynn does not believe that this was ISIS.
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Okay.
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Let's do a snapshot on what happened last Friday in Moscow.
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The aftermath of supposedly ISIS, but they say right when they're picked up, no, we were
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just paid and given weapons and told to do this.
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Now they've confirmed they did come out of Ukraine.
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They were trying to get back to Ukraine.
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Some say it could be Putin doing a false flag, but I see Newland and others saying nasty
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surprises them saying and Jack Basobik and others predicting months ago that the West
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would now shift into more asymmetrical warfare because Russia has won this war.
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You're the leading expert on something like this.
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What is your analysis and gut general?
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Yeah.
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My hypothesis on this, Alex, is that this is not an ISIS related attack.
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Okay.
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There's too many things.
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There's too many anomalies that, you know, ISIS, you know, if it was a, if it was a real
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strong radical Islamist type attack, these guys would have been prepared to die.
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And so there's just two, that's, that's number one, but there's other things that I have
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examined, and this is just examining from afar that, that just do not come across to
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me much.
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So my gut tells me right now that this was not an ISIS attack, that there's something
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else behind this.
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Now what I just learned and what, what the world is learning over the last 24 hours is
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that the Russians FSB has come out and said that the, that the UK and the U S are behind
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this.
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Now, you know, the, if we can look at things like the Nord Stream pipeline attack, we look
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at this, the fact that these guys got caught alive and where they got caught and so many
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of them got caught, I mean, the, the Russians are going to learn an awful lot from that.
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And so I just, again, my hypothesis is that this is not an ISIS attack.
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Even though the, our government came out like in 30 minutes and said, it's ISIS, right?
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And ISIS came out supposedly and said, it's, it's them.
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There's just something not right about this.
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Supposedly they did come out and say that they did it.
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I don't understand how you could supposedly do that.
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Well, he's trying to minimize the fact that they said that they did it because he wants
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to go along with the FSB's line.
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Supposedly.
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Yeah.
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Weird.
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So I'm noticing something listening to Flynn and that is that he doesn't actually ever
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say that much of substance.
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He's spouting these theories and insisting something doesn't feel right about the Moscow
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attack or the bridge collapse.
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But personally, I don't know if his feelings carry that much weight and that's all that
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I'm hearing.
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Yeah.
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Feelings.
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So the suspects arrested in the Moscow attack didn't come from Ukraine, they came from Tajikistan.
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When they were arrested, they were heading away from Moscow in a direction that could
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have been towards Ukraine or it could have been toward Belarus, who knows?
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It seems like the idea that you'd be able to make it across the Russia-Ukraine border
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easily as a getaway seems kind of dumb.
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There's a war going on there.
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Plus, according to BBC, they were arrested 14 hours after the attack, only 250 miles
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away from Moscow.
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If there was some kind of a plan to shuttle them across the border, they could have easily
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done that by the point that they got arrested.
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So that line kind of just doesn't make sense to me.
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But yeah, Flynn has a lot of ideas, but I don't know.
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I am interested in the idea of people like these believing what the FSB says.
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Sure.
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You know what I'm saying?
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They're very distrustful of intelligence agencies as a whole.
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I think it's smart to be distrustful of intelligence.
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Even if they are telling you the truth, they have a purpose behind what it is they say.
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That's why they say, no comment so many times.
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So if there is a comment, they have a reason for it, and that's just, you know, there's
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a reason.
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Sure.
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Be aware of that.
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Don't be just so trusting, amazing that you would trust the FSB of all places.
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Well, they're the example that proves the rule or whatever.
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Right, the exception.
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You know you can trust the Russian intelligence agencies because they make the right people
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disappear.
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All right, Flynn.
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That's a good thing, buddy.
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Great.
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So he leaves, and Alex, I'm going to go ahead and skip this clip because it's long, and
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it's just Alex saying, I'm probably going out of business, 50-50 shot, probably not
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good.
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All right.
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Info Wars going away, maybe.
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Buy a shirt while you can.
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Right.
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Right.
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So he takes about a long time to say that.
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Just to say that.
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Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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So in this next clip, Alex kind of, he's complaining about immigrants, and I think
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he fucks up his entire old house reapportionment argument here.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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They've had the illegal aliens there for six months to a year in these hotels and government
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facilities that they've tried to keep secret by the millions, and now they're kicking them
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out to make way for the new group, and they're loading them on planes with money and sending
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them to Texas, and Tennessee, and Georgia, and Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and Arizona,
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and Florida.
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And when you go down the list of where they're sending them, I've got AP articles right here
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saying it, they are sending them mainly to battleground states and to purple states and
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to red states.
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They're not sending any of them to blue states.
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So the Texas governor, the Florida governor have wisely deported some of these illegal
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aliens.
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They don't have power to deport them over the border, but they have power to ship them
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to another state or to a left hysteria like Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts, but they're
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immediately taken out of there.
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So they are literally sending them out of the blue cities and to the red areas to flip
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those Democrat, not just with the illegals voting as we know they're doing, but also
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again for the apportionment of the members of Congress to get more congressional seats.
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So this is a big, big deal.
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So leaving aside that Alex is making all of that up and all the numbers, I want to point
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out that he's fucked up the conspiracy.
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If the goal of sending undocumented immigrants places was to create more Democrat house seats
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through apportionment, then the storyline needs to be that they're sending everyone
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to blue areas.
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Right.
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If the immigrants are being sent to red and purple areas, this whole plot line doesn't
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make sense.
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It's a waste of everybody's time.
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Right.
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Let's not outnumber anyone with the vote.
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What?
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What?
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Plus, they only do the census every 10 years, and there was just one in 2020.
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None of these concerns matter, though, because this isn't a sincere argument Alex is making.
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It's just the new way for anti-immigrant sentiment to be packaged in a way that folks like Alex
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think is less likely to make them seem like bigots, but it's not working, and you don't
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understand the premise even of your own bullshit narrative.
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No.
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It's contradictory.
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And it's just so... It's so transparently and blatantly race.
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I mean, it's like... They're not sending them to blue states.
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Even in your conspiracy, even if your conspiracy was 100% true, that's ridiculous.
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It would be so glaringly obvious what was going on.
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If your conspiracy is that 100% true, you and I would be like, well, obviously, if you're
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only sending them to these places, there's a reason behind it, right?
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It would be stupid.
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You couldn't hide it at all?
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Well, the problem is that they need to have this sort of more pseudo-respectable argument,
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which is the apportionment of Congress.
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And then at the same time, Alex isn't willing to get away from the, I believe that literally
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everybody can vote illegally.
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So he has to have... The people are being sent to red areas because they vote illegally
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there.
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And then the people are being sent to the blue areas because that is the apportionment.
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And he doesn't realize how he can't make these two mix.
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He's trying to have his cake and eat it too with his racist xenophobic narrative, and
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it makes it convoluted.
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Yeah, it's fucked up to think about it now, but I mean, you think 10 years from now, climate
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change situations start to arise.
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And now people like Alex are mad about immigrants from Indiana coming to... At what point are
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we talking about interstate- It'll happen probably.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Just this idea of they're sending them to our states.
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The idea of it being an illegal immigrant is only the smokescreen now.
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When they don't care, it could just be like, people from India, they're sending black people
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from Indiana to Texas, and now we're mad.
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You know?
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I mean, who knows how that'll evolve.
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Fuck me.
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So we get to Alex's phone calls.
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He takes some calls from folks who work in the maritime services.
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And he gets a call from a guy whose dad works at the port.
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At the Baltimore port?
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I believe so, yes.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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At the Baltimore port.
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Good.
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And I don't know if we get any information.
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Let's go to Tim first.
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This is his father.
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I believe he's saying works at this port, and then we'll go to Cody, Corey, and Mitchell.
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Thank you, Tim, for calling, and thank you for holding.
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You're on the air.
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Please give us your take and what your dad's telling you.
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Yeah, so my dad works at the port, and my brother's a truck driver.
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He goes to D.C. from Baltimore, and everyone's talking about, like, you know, this is... Obviously,
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it's never happened here.
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And just a few days later after the Russian, excuse me, incident, it just seems to be,
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you know, I don't think it's a coincidence.
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But where my brother works at, people are taking off.
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They're like, yeah, something bad's gonna happen, and just a bad feeling.
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So you've talked to your dad, or have you not talked to him?
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Oh, yeah, no, he... Same deal.
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It's disrupting trade.
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Sure.
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I guess we're getting gossip from someone whose dad works at the... This doesn't seem
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like a hard hitting.
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No.
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Which kind of sucks is because I actually, in this scenario, I could see some Infowars
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people being like boat people, just like super into boats.
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No, there are a couple.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then calling in with really good information that's like nuts, like real detailed, like
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they love that.
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Like, listen, we believe all this kind of bullshit, but also I listen to the shipping
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reports every night, and I have for 30 years, you know, that kind of thing.
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And I would be interested to know shit.
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Well, we do hear from somebody like that later, but until then, we do have to deal with gossip
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and speculation, but for people who work on ships.
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Okay, fine.
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I guess that's fine.
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I guess that's better.
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I know it's all speculation, but what's the buzz, what's the scuttlebutt with people in
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your profession?
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Well, I mean, it's early.
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I haven't talked to too many people, but the biggest question is, is why did the ship lose
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power?
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I'm not sure how those ships are actually operated in terms of, are there remote capabilities
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that stuff you interfered with, was there some kind of a delay in electronics, but it
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looks like at the last minute, they tried to put it in reverse.
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They got the engines fired back up, but at that point, they say that it takes nearly
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a mile to slow down eight knots, and they were coming in pretty quick from what I can
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understand.
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What do they call that inertia?
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Inertia.
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Wow.
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Absolutely.
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Well, it could be a normal disaster, that certainly goes on.
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We're sure seeing a lot of this.
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I was thinking, and I'm purely speculating, I'm not saying the Russians did it, but a
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lot of these ships, because I've been led into the cruise ship by the captains, I mean,
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it's all decades ago, super computerized and GPS and all the rest of it.
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Most of it's done by autopilot, and we know going back to the Exxon Valdez, it was on
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autopilot when they did that, but just to see that catastrophic power failure and to
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not even see emergency lights go on, it's very, very, very, very strange, and so it
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needs to be investigated, and unfortunately, we don't have any confidence, at least I don't,
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in federal investigators, because they're so corrupted at the top.
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God knows we'll ever know, but I saw the cursed bridge being blown up repeatedly going out
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of Russia into southern Ukraine, into Crimea, and I wonder if it could be payback by the
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Russians.
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I mean, this is the type of sabotage industrial crap.
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We've already seen the globalists blow up the Nord Stream pipeline and Biden say, we'll
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get rid of the pipeline if you invade Ukraine, so it wouldn't be turned about as fair play.
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You're right.
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It's all just speculation.
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It's all just speculation.
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Aren't we scared of nuclear war right now?
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He's supposed to be terrified of it.
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Isn't he supposed to be terrified of it?
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Yeah, and it's around the corner every second.
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Accusing Russia of attacking a bridge in Baltimore is not a good way to deescalate.
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Nah, it's fine, because here's the thing.
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He thinks it's cool if it was them.
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Ah, you're right.
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It is.
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Turnabouts fair play.
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Hey, what are you going to do?
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Listen, you shouldn't have allowed Ukraine to defend itself.
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Yeah, Alex, the way he's covering the possibility that he's making up out of thin air that Russia
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did this is like, hey, if they did it, it's cool.
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That would be Pearl Harbor, though.
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You understand that would be Pearl Harbor.
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But it's fine.
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Oh, okay.
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Never mind.
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It's fine.
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Turnabouts fair play.
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We have realigned politically globally in the past 40 years.
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And Alex has realigned sensibility-ish.
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It's wild.
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Also, I was listening to this and I was shocked at the extent to which this is being covered
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like a gossip-ass story.
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This is just like, why don't we throw all kinds of weird ideas at the wall?
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I'll have Flynn come in and talk about the attack in Moscow and talk about how suspicious
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this is with giving no reason for this being suspicious, necessarily.
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You take these callers and it's like, my dad thinks it's weird.
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He works at the port.
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Great.
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We get another guy, the second guy who was a fisherman and we got nothing.
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It's gossip.
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It's very thin.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It reminds me of so many, as you're saying, it is just about what variables are present
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at what point in time.
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You think so many cruise ships, when you've seen horrible disasters happen there, you'd
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be like, okay, well, terrorists are attacking thousands of people.
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That makes sense, right?
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That's your target, right?
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Not just, well, it's called Francis Scott Keith.
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Symbolism.
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Symbolism.
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Symbolism, baby.
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Yep.
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So Alex brought up the Exxon Valdez there.
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That was interesting.
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And so he talks about that a little bit more here.
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So again, I'm a lay person.
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I've only personally studied this, but that's what I knew.
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I had read by law, any ship that's doing commercial work above a certain size has to have all
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the things he just mentioned.
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So and again, they had it back during the Exxon Valdez, but the captain was completely
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drunk and basically plotted in, if I remember correctly, put the computer plotting wrong.
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So think about it.
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The pilots will tell you that on any big commercial plane, they're not flying the plane anymore.
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They pre-program it, computer takes off, the computer lands.
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They're just there like custodians.
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That's why pilots now come back, the copilot will be asleep, the captain will be asleep
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if you're in first class right next to you.
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And I've just been seeing this the last few years and I've talked to them and they said,
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we don't fly the planes anymore.
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And the older captains will tell you, this is dangerous because when there's a problem,
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they're not very good.
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Because normally you're taking off your landing, you've got to stay on top of it.
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And in many ways, the computers do fly planes better than humans until there's a problem.
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And they've had all these computer systems malfunction and it makes the planes dive bomb
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and they kind of sweep it under the rug.
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But as everything gets put into one system and one AI system, it makes it totally easy
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to be taken over by hackers, by governments, by aliens.
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And I mean that hypothetically, but you know, that's like a remake of Battlestar Galactica.
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I'm not a big TV guy, but I did watch the first series and that was pretty good.
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And that's how the aliens take over Earth is they take over the AI.
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And then everybody's defenseless except one ship that was a museum piece that wasn't in
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the grid.
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Could have stopped at hackers.
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Could have gone along.
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Could have just stopped at hackers.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Jesus Christ.
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So Alex does have a lot of concerns about self-driving vehicles.
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I mean, yeah.
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It's a real good thing that he isn't a huge supporter of the world's number one promoter
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of autonomous vehicles.
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Does feel weird.
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That is a strange bedfellow.
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Also, that's not what happened with the Exxon Valdez.
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But Captain Joseph Hazelwood was drunk.
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That is true.
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Yeah.
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But he wasn't in charge of the boat at the time.
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He had retired for the night and taken his leave.
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The third mate was in charge of the ship at the time.
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But fun.
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I do appreciate the idea.
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Because in my head, if you say like, oh, the old pilots, the old captains will tell you,
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you know, this is dangerous.
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Like in my head.
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Back when they were drunk.
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I see grizzled sea captains with like a peg leg, you know, just being like, oh, they let
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you take off doing anything now, you know.
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It is probably an unfair stereotype that I have because I'm sure the captains weren't
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all drunk.
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No, of course not.
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But that was the sitcom thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That was the sitcom joke is the captains back in the day were all drunk.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, yeah.
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That's what we all remember.
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Right.
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So now I guess the sleeping is that much worse.
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Yeah.
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And they were like, uh, handsy.
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That was the joke is that they were very handsy.
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That might not have been a joke.
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Well, you know, that's fair.
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I'm sure there's stereotypes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't, I don't think, I mean, obviously technology has evolved and stuff, but I don't,
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I don't think that we're at the point where everything is automated.
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I like, I like your problem with they're better at us at some things until they're not as
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like, well, humans are better than them at some things until they're not.
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You understand how that works, right?
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Yeah.
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Everybody, everybody is good at things.
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Until they're not.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Because of the men that is happening because of the boat because of the ports.
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Yes.
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Because of hard men, men do the hard work at these ports through the other seven, eight
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calls we have.
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And then we're going to stop there.
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They're fascinating with port workers, barge operators, captains, engineers, all, all these
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interesting people calling in to give you an idea of how complex civilization is.
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And the amazing men, not putting down women, but it's men that built it.
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It's not black men.
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It's not white men.
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It's not brown men.
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It's men and the attack on men that bust their ass in these dangerous positions all over
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the world and always have.
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And we have this disaster and the thing smells.
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I agree with Flynn.
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It's very suspicious.
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You've heard these callers that working around this, this stuff never happens, folks.
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I mean, we're talking every 30 years.
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This is crazy.
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And those ships have redundant systems.
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The power goes off here.
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We got two backup systems, batteries and a big generator.
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And it works.
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Power goes up, never even goes off.
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And those ships have that.
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You heard it two or three times backed up, depending on how big the ship is.
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So there's, it's suspicious.
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You know, there, there is not a commitment to an argument necessarily that Alex is making.
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You know, there's, there's the, there's the redundancies of the electrical system, obviously
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bringing this up as a cause for suspicion is there must have been sabotage or there
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has to have been some kind of like, you know, the planes are all AI.
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They're all like the robots are flying them.
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There was a robot attack on the AI that was running this boat or whatever.
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Sure.
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There's that suspicion that is drawn out.
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And there's all kinds of non-sequiturs that are brought up by Alex and by callers, things
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like there weren't tugboats taking them all the way.
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Things like there, I heard that the crew was all Ukrainians.
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Let's pour through every detail and if we can find anything that might be suspicious.
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You build this suspicion, but there isn't like a, aha, here is the explanation for everything.
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And it's, it's just kind of a bull session of bullshit.
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And so we get another, we get a caller who has a real, a real winner.
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Okay.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well imagine if we go to war with Iran, they're going to block both of the major canals there
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in the middle East.
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That'll be very easy to do.
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They'll just blow a couple ships up.
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This is, this is, this is crazy.
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Yeah.
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Looking into, into the ports further, I mean, look at the Panama canal and what's going
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on down there.
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They're trying to shut everything down.
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Anything else, sir?
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Thank you so much.
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Be safe.
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Okay.
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Beautiful area, Cape Cod.
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Beautiful area.
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What is going on?
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Gotta love Cape Cod.
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What is Cape Cod doing?
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That guy is from Cape Cod.
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Yeah.
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I understand that part.
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Beautiful area.
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Fair.
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Fair.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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See, I think climate change is more of what's affecting the Panama canal at this point.
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But Singapore, China.
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All right.
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Boom.
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Right.
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Boy.
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Right?
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You know, this vessel's from Kenya.
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It's probably Russia doing it.
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What, what are we talking about?
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You literally said the name of a different country.
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Nah, nah, nah.
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Singapore?
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No.
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China.
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Not how it works.
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Boom.
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Is that, I do appreciate.
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Free association.
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Like, like that idea of just, well, you know, Singapore, it's around there.
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Right.
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That's probably China.
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I associate the two.
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That's just China.
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Yeah.
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It's even an inkling of like, maybe they're their own people.
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Not even once.
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Not a single thought.
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It's all just one big thing of China.
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Yeah.
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Why did they name themselves?
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He's almost resentful of them.
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Why'd you name yourself Singapore?
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You're making me waste time when I should be saying China.
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And that's actually kind of suspicious in and of itself.
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Yes, it is.
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Ridiculous.
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Yeah.
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So Alex does get a call from a guy who seems to have a lot of answers for him.
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Okay.
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And this guy is pretty set on it being an accident.
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Right.
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And he has a good answer for the backup generator narrative, which does seem to be the biggest
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piece of real world information that Alex is wrestling with.
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Right.
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Which is, there's supposed to be redundancy of the power supply.
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So even if something fails, something else should take over and this guy kind of destroys
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that talking point.
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Okay.
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So Alex, welcome in Mississippi, thanks for holding a ship captain, what type of ship
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captain are you in?
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And what's your take?
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Hey, Alex.
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So first time caller, man's a little bit nervous here, but I'm trying to keep it rational.
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When a ship is underway, it has to have only navigation lights.
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So from watching the video this morning and you could see the light to me, that's going
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to be emergency deck lights for evacuation, which automatically comes on when you lose
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power.
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Like Joe said, man, I'm following up.
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He really knows what he's talking to me.
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He's got a lot of it down.
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There's about a two minute delay on your generators.
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When that kicks back, some of them have three.
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The ones I ran offshore had two, it was a redundant system.
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You're saying it's not, it's not fast.
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It's not what?
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It's not fast.
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No, it's not fast on a transfer.
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It's not fast.
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It's not instantaneous like a lot of people say.
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There is a backup system on the steering.
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That's what your emergency generator system does.
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It activates certain lights that's for evacuation and on a ship like that, on a Solace class,
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it's going to have probably three.
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I've never worked on those size ships.
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I've only worked like the 350 foot supply boats offshore.
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Now I've had to deal with this going into the Port of New Orleans a lot.
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It's a miracle on a day to day basis of how many catastrophes this probably avoided.
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And not long ago we had one that come under the bridge and he lost steering.
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And the first thing a pilot does, a Harbor Pass pilot will say is drop your anchors.
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As soon as he knows that he can't have control, he's going to drop anchor.
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That's your last resort.
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And when it's the one in New Orleans caught, it kind of swung it out a little bit back
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into the river and it hit the wharf and actually saved a lot of lives.
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That guy done everything right.
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And in this situation, when you see that ship turn its possibility, he had already dropped
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his anchors.
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If he's underway, he's only going to have tugs that's going to guide him.
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So this guy kind of gets rid of a lot of the stuff that's like, this is like really suspicious.
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Like if there is this backup generator, it takes a little while, there isn't an immediate
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kick on of it, then in that downtime when you've steered off course, that could explain
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everything quite honestly.
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So I think that this guy maybe is the wrong call for Alex to take because it ruins a lot
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of the fun.
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I mean, I'm disappointed that we're listening to this on Infowars because I want to listen
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to this guy tell me more about boats.
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I feel a lot like if you recall going to the fire station and then the fire person being
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like, here's how everything works in the engine.
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Yes, tell me more about the more details and weird shit about the engine.
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Tell me all about that.
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This guy is so knowledgeable about boats and they're like, they're so complicated communicator
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too.
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Honestly.
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Yeah, no, I'm, I'm learning, I'm interested.
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And then I'm worried that this guy is going to be like, well, and also we need to get
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rid of all immigrants.
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Like, no wrong place.
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He doesn't, he doesn't say anything that raises any alarms of, of problematicness, but, but
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he does have an explanation for like Alex's primary reason to have like some wild suspicion.
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And that just isn't fun.
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So I mean, for me, this is, this has probably been one of the most exciting Infowars actual
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moments in real life for me because I love learning about, uh, stuff like that.
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That's so cool.
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Yeah.
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And so as he explains, uh, what he reads and the dynamics of things, you kind of have to
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just admit as is probably an accident.
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Yeah.
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It's like I said, I mean, there's so many times that things can go wrong and when it
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does, it's always in the wrong spot and I'm trying to be rational on it.
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I'm not, I'm like you, it's until this, I'm going to tell you from all the experts calling
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in, it sounds like it probably wasn't hacking your terror.
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I'm going with the way that the lights work and, and you had all of these white lights
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on and you can see it coming toward that stanchion and when, and then all of a sudden the lights
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came back on.
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To me, when it goes to black, that means it's a normal operation.
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So Alex has to just sort of retreat to, I guess all the experts calling in are saying
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that it's probably an accident.
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Yeah.
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Which isn't fun for him.
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He had General Flynn show up out of nowhere to be real suspicious at the beginning and
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this kind of deflates everything.
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It is a wet blanket.
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Yeah.
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I will admit that this is a wet blanket.
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For Alex, this destroys all kinds of enjoyment.
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There's not a lot of momentum you can take after this, after someone who seems to know
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quite a bit, is a ship captain, isn't incoherent in his communication, is saying, these are
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the reasons why I see this and I think this is probably an accident.
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I've been in situations like this.
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I'm aware of this.
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You kind of have a tough time then being like, but what about the Moscow attack?
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And it's one of your own people.
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It's not like it's an expert on CNN.
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Not a globalist.
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No, no, no, no.
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It's one of your own people who's on the ground and it's doing a job that's, in Alex's mind,
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an actual job as opposed to somebody who works anywhere else.
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So another caller, I'm not sure if it was this guy or another person, I don't remember
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exactly, but someone is like, you know who you should get on to talk about this?
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Is an expert that you have not talked to in a long time and maybe it's time for you guys
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to settle up.
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Larry Nichols?
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He's dead.
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He's dead.
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I was hoping it was Steve Pacenik.
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Oh yeah, yeah, that would be great.
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But it turns out this person was like, you got to get Matt Bracken in.
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Oh wow.
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And for those of you who don't remember Matt Bracken, he was the guy who, well, first of
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all, he's obsessed with the coming race war and has written multiple books about it.
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But also he would host the fourth hour on Alex's show and he famously on, I believe
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it was December 31st, 2020 said, we need to storm the Capitol on January 6th.
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That's right.
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That was him.
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And Alex was like, uh oh.
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It's why we haven't, it's probably why we haven't heard from him in a while.
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Because after January 6th, Matt Bracken was a big part of Alex trying to do like damage
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control and then he came out that he had said you should storm the Capitol on the 6th.
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It looked a little bad.
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So he and Alex have not been super close.
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Thrown under the bus.
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So when this person suggests that Alex talked to Matt Bracken, Alex was like, I'm going
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to host the fourth hour.
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Fuck it.
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And I was like, oh, he's going to get Matt Bracken in.
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Right.
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God damn it.
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Yeah.
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Matt Bracken doesn't show up.
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It seems like it was a promise.
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Yeah.
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I was, I was hoping, uh, maybe Bracken was busy.
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He's not like Flynn.
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Right.
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It's not a movie to promote.
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Right.
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So Alex does have a different guest that comes in in the third hour and it's a guy who co-hosts
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a podcast with Jimmy Dore.
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I'm a big fan of this guy, I've been watching him for years, co-hosting with the great Jimmy
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Dore, Kurt Metzger, he's an Emmy award winning and Peabody award winning writer and producer
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who recently played a series regular alongside Alan Alda, Jessica Lange, and many, many others.
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And of course, he's just done so much more, kurtmetzgercomedy.com and at Kurt Metzger,
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that's in the ER on X, and he's got so many shows, he's written for Chappelle, Jim Norton,
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it just goes on and on.
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And so it's great to have him here to talk about the world.
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We've got some of his comedy clips coming up as well, but he's really a hardcore guy
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that's aware of world events and what's happening.
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And so my wife is the one that gets alerts on her iPad and she watches Jimmy Dore all
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the time.
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She watches her other favorite person to watch, she likes Jordan Peterson, she also likes
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watching Russell Brand, I kind of get mad at her once she watched me while she was like,
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I got plenty of you at home, but she's a big fan of yours.
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So thank you for coming on.
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It was a great interview with you guys and Jimmy.
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Yeah, no, I wanted, cause when you were talking about DMT and stuff before and I never got
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to talk to you about it, not right this second, but I was like, I've been meaning to get asked
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you about that.
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Cause you're talking about the alien entities they're trying to contact.
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You can talk about DMT in the end.
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It's not super interesting, but I found out what you were talking about.
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Absolutely.
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You got to know what he was talking about.
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So you got Kurt Metzger.
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I know for a fact that like eight to 10 years ago, Kurt Metzger was making fun of people
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who did exactly what he's doing right now.
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There's a chance that he probably was, and he definitely does talk in this interview
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about how on 9-11 he was like gung ho for the Iraq war and stuff.
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Yeah.
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There is obviously some positions have changed.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Definitely that.
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I did think it was really weird that Alex said that he is a series regular with Alan
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Alda and Jessica Lange and I'm like.
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On what?
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What show?
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On what?
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He's talking about Horace and Pete's.
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The show Horace and Pete?
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The Louis C.K. show.
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From when he, the stage play show that he did?
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It was 2016.
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Oh my God.
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That's right.
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He was sitting at the bar with Lisa.
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And Jessica Lange.
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Weird.
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Yep.
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Weird time.
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So that was, I don't understand why Alex didn't finish that credit.
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That's strange.
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So yeah.
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I don't know.
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Look, Kurt Metzger.
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I don't, I don't.
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That was a dark show.
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Horace and Pete.
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Yeah.
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I don't think I ever saw it.
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I did.
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It was dark.
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Yeah?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I know it's a bar, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean it's one of those classic terrible stage plays where, you know, everybody dies
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in the end.
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That kind of thing.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So Kurt Metzger is on.
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I don't really care too much.
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I don't, I don't.
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Yeah.
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I'm not, I'm not wildly interested.
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No.
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But there are a couple things that do come up that I think are notable.
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Okay.
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So right now is the age of disgruntled employees snitching on their employers, which I'm all
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for.
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I say keep snitching.
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It's great.
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Well, especially if it's on government officials.
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100%.
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You know.
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Well, the great part is I don't do anything weird.
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I mean there's literally nothing other than the fact that everybody knows Alex Jones drinks
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sometimes and it's an issue.
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I've been going to AA lately.
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You're not supposed to talk about it.
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He's going to be sober for this shit?
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No, no, no.
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Exactly.
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But other than that, the stuff the New York Times like said, we had a fish tank of an
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employee and Jones was mad and grabbed the fish and ate it.
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That's Wolf of Wall Street.
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There's never been a damn fish tank here.
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You never did a Wolf of Wall Street?
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I did.
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I never murdered someone's fish, but they make up lies so big people go, it's gotta
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be true.
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I mean, Jones killed the employee's fish and you're not working hard enough and grabbed
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the fish and ate it.
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It's Wolf of Wall Street, you lazy assholes.
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Did you know that even the real life Wolf of Wall Street, nobody did that?
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So I think that it is fun to encourage snitching on employers, primarily because people like
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Kurt or Alex, when they are the subject of things, there's denial and it's cancel culture.
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So they're kind of immune from any of this blowback.
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But yeah, sure.
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Go ahead, snitch on employers.
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But the other thing that I think sticks out there-
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What, that Alex doesn't do anything weird at all ever?
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Maybe he just drinks a little bit.
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Everybody knows that.
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But he's not a weird guy.
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He doesn't do weird things.
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Why are you saying that he does weird stuff all the time, Dan?
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I think he does some weird stuff.
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Aha!
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That's definitely true.
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Not the accusation of eating a goldfish.
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I think there's plenty of other weird stuff.
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Yeah, I don't think you need that one.
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But Alex said that he's been going to AA.
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He did say that.
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Now I obviously, if this is true, I don't want to make fun of that.
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I think it is totally fine to seek help.
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And I think that's great.
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Okay.
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Now, if he's doing the steps-
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Let me ask you a question.
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How long do you think it takes for him to read every letter of apology that he needs
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to write?
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I mean, that's the thing that I find very difficult to imagine, is engagement with the-
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The steps?
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The process.
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The thing that it is.
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The endless moral inventory.
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That-
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That is right.
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Making amends while he's screaming at people.
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It's not going to happen.
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Denying that he did anything wrong about Sandy Hook.
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Yeah, they're officially-
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I find it really difficult.
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I imagine it will be tough.
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I think the anonymous part is probably going to be the hardest thing for him.
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Clearly, he just said it on air.
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Please bring it up.
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I'm going to this meeting on this date.
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Yeah.
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Good work.
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Thanks, man.
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Thanks.
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That would be a nightmare.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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So, there's some other things that come up.
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I don't want my country hijacked by crazy people.
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Well, that happened a long time ago, I guess.
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I don't have any say over-
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Ever since they killed Kennedy, the CIA has been in control, and they are just out of
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control.
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Am I wrong about this?
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I can't find it.
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I was trying to-
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Yes.
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I swore I read it somewhere.
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The term conspiracy theory, as like a thing, was Allen Dulles-
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Yes.
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It was created in 1963.
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There's even AP articles.
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It was released in 64.
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Anyone questioning the JFK assassination was called a conspiracy theorist, so you wouldn't
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debate the facts.
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Right.
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No, that's not true.
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So, Allen Dulles did not create the term conspiracy theorist or conspiracy theory in 1963 to discredit
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people who had ideas about the JFK assassination.
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The term long predates that point, and Alex is just trying to sound interesting and smart
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for his impressionable celebrity guest.
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This all traces back to a 1976 document titled Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report,
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which was meant to help CIA folk understand various arguments that conspiracy theorists
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made against the Warren Report and provided rebuttals for them.
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This doesn't prove that the CIA created the term conspiracy theorist or even that they
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weaponized it against truth seekers, but that's more fun for people like Kurt and Alex to
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believe, so that's the truth for today.
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Yeah.
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It's probably more like they had a researcher compile all of their evidence and create a
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short burst of things that you can say to them.
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They used the term conspiracy theory in it, so bada-boom.
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So there are conspiracies though, certainly.
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Well, yeah.
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So things must always be.
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I don't...
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You know, if you go, if you're in court for, I think Trump's being discharged from a criminal
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conspiracy, right, by Fannie Willa's, is that RICO conspiracy?
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Your whole basis of organized crime laws is conspiracy.
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Yeah, so, and I always ask, do you think, are you saying conspiracy, is it conspiracy
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to you a thing that's not real?
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Everybody else does conspiracies, but not powerful corporations and governments.
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Right.
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Well, not the guy I like, or my favorite is every dumb shit liberal I know, and I'm not,
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I'm non-binary politically, but every liberal I know, they all know the story of the Sackler
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family and how they, Oxycontin, and they saw the documentary.
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I was hooked on Oxycontin.
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And that was a real conspiracy.
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It was very real.
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They all know about this, and I go, okay, so you know Oxycontin, now hold that, hold
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that in your head, and now think about all the other drugs, like the vaccine, the fucking,
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I can't wait till you're not allowed to talk bad about Osempic.
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I bet that's coming pretty soon, when you're going to be shadow banned because you said
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something about Osempic wrong.
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You're going to be shadow banned for shitting on Osempic.
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Seems not to have happened, seems like it's not going to, but Kurt is suffering from a
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thought pattern that you could describe as treating possibility as proof.
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According to the case of the Sacklers, does not show that all other medications are profit
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driven conspiracies, but it does show that conspiracy has happened and is possible.
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Yes.
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This is a mental shortcut that Kurt's taking because he gravitates towards this iconoclastic
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position.
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I guess he doesn't believe in medicine then?
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It's all a scam?
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I mean, how can you not, okay, okay, so if I understand correctly, if one Sackler, all
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Sackler, is that the argument basically?
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Well, sure.
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I mean, I think that's kind of the way a lot of this conspiracy shit works, is like, okay,
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the Operation Northwoods exists, therefore everything that could possibly seem like it
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must be fake.
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It's the possibility is treated as proof, and that is because you can't arrive at the
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conclusion any other way.
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You have to make that big leap and then scoff at people for not joining you on that leap
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as if they're dumb shit libs or whatever.
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Yeah, which is kind of crazy because if you follow his reasoning, at a certain point he
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inverts it, like, okay, I know the story of the Sacklers.
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The Sacklers conspiracy, everybody talked about how it's bad, the opioid crisis, epidemic,
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all of these things for years, decades, we've been talking about this, right?
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And then he's like, aha, now apply that to when you're not allowed to say bad things
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about stuff?
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No.
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So that's the same?
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No, he's saying that, you know, you have these people who had a profit driven motive in order
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to give people medicine that they didn't need or was maybe dangerous.
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So now apply that to every other medicine.
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Sure.
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Apply that to the vaccine.
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When he's talking about, you can't talk bad about Ozempic, he's comparing that to the
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vaccine.
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You're not allowed to talk bad about the vaccine.
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He's not comparing that to, you're not allowed to talk bad about fucking opioids.
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Would you get shadow banned for talking about Vicodin?
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I mean, yeah, what are you fucking talking about?
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One day soon.
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One day soon, they will.
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In this scenario, he's almost even providing the roadmap for why it is his reasoning is
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wrong.
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Oh, no.
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Fair enough.
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So, Kurt wants to ask Alex about the trillionaires and what their belief system is and such.
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Okay.
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I mean, my whole rabbit hole I just want to go down is like, okay, at the very tippity
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top or whoever, like, I assume it's trillionaires.
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I assume above the billionaires there are trillionaires.
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Yeah, the real money's secret.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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And what, like, what is their sign title?
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I want to know what their Xenu is, like, is their Xenu the lizards?
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Like the story where they, there is no- No, I can tell you, because they don't make
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jokes about it, they believe they're interfacing, like it's skull and bones, they believe they
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are interfacing with Greek gods, and they go through all these rituals to then be influenced
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or possessed by it, and that's because their internal animals got leaked by Charlotte Iserby,
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whose dad was a high-level member.
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And it's on reference real.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Will you say that last thing?
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Your internal memos got leaked by who?
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By Charlotte Iserby, whose dad was high-level skull and bones.
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Oh, okay.
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She was the former head of the Department of Education, and she's dead now.
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I interview her all the time, but the point was, and she gave the animals to Anthony Sutton,
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the head archivist at the Senate, the Frank Church Committee hearings all came out like
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that.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
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And the whole shadow government, it was a bunch of documents, skull and bones was one
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part of it, that when her dad died of cancer, you know, she gave it to him.
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And the point is, is that these guys literally believe they're channelers, but then they
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get DMT, and they have groups of people up to 50 having the same experience now with
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DMT, where they're all seeing the aliens, they have to go to ritual sites, those are
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like gateway portal points while they built them there, the ancients do this, and they're
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like in Peru and places.
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And so they are literally seeing them, that's why I've never taken it.
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Because I know how real it is.
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Alex doesn't need to take it because he has sleep apnea, as you recall, so he takes DMT
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every night.
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Yes, because he doesn't have enough oxygen to his brain.
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But apparently he had that fixed, and then maybe it hasn't been fixed, I don't know.
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So yeah, they worship Greek gods, and they channel Zeus.
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I think we all can like, I think there's a way to relate to this in a way that makes
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better sense, right?
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You know anybody who has way too much of something?
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Their Xenu is that thing.
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You know, like, oh, what's a trillionare Xenu?
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Aha, money.
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The end.
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Well, but that's where it gets fun, because once you have enough money, you no longer
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care about money.
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Not, but you see, that's where you're making the mistake.
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You know people who have too much stuff in their house?
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They don't suddenly stop caring about getting more stuff.
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They still want more stuff.
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Sure.
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It's the desire for stuff that they want.
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But how does Hera fit into this?
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That is a really good question.
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And what of Hephaestus?
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Okay, well, he's building, obviously, he's one of the three senators who made the Fed,
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because he had to...
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Right, with his hammer.
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Yeah, yeah, that's where the money plates come from.
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See, I'm not sure if this was Charlotte Iserbyt's information.
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She just had, like, a roster of people who were members of Skull and Bones from her.
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I think this might be a little bit of a, hey, we got a magical trove of information here
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that we can just point to, and it proves everything that we want to say.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, it feels like when Wylie used to run off the cliff, he could have just kept running.
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Could have.
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Could have just kept running.
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Don't need another cliff on the other side.
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Just need to keep going.
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Just keep saying Charlotte Iserbyt gave it to Anthony Sutton.
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So Kurt does mention that he's done DMT, and he talks about that a little bit, and it's
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just kind of a DMT experience.
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Yeah, yeah, I did drugs.
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You've done drugs.
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My mind was different.
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There's nothing really that I leave as impacted as Alex's talk of the 100-foot-tall mantis.
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Where is that?
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So I don't care, but Alex does say something I think is a little strange here in this next
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clip.
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It's like pareidolia, where you could see patterns and things.
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I think that's how a brain works is it's a big mess.
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You don't see reality.
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That's just science, and then your perception is like you making pictures out of the big
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... Well, that's it, but I mean, look, they can
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take chickens just from when they ended up with ducks, and they can do 10 generations
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in just a couple of years, and they put them in a warehouse where none of the chickens
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or ducks have ever been outside, and it's like a 50-foot wall, and if they project a
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triangle flying over, nobody cares, and if they do the scream of a hawk, they don't care,
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but if they do the image of a hawk and the scream of a hawk, they all run into the coop
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screaming.
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Yeah, right.
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They've never seen a hawk, but they know what a hawk is, and they know what it sounds like.
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Yeah, right.
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See, that's the ancestral memory, for the ancestral memory is we're not just a seafaring
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people, we're a space-faring people, we were seated here.
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We used to be space-faring people, you understand?
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That's our ancestral memory.
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I think also Alex is a little wrong, or a little bit off on the details about this duck
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experiment.
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I, one, I would like to know how you get 10 generations of ducks in only a couple of years.
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That suggests to me that Alex is describing some sort of quick aging technology that allows
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an entire life cycle of a duck to hang a...
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Okay.
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All right.
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So that's fine.
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That's fine.
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But if, if you are going to say to me, aha, we were a space-faring people, this is our
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ancestral memory, then I say to you, please stop telling me you're a Christian, throw
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your Bible away, please, because go back to space.
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Well, you can make it work.
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Can you?
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Sure.
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Where?
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Somehow.
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Metaphor.
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When God created the lights and the stars, were we out there?
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Sure.
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Okay.
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Fair enough.
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That's the, that's how we...
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It was a long day.
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It was a long day.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So usually I have one more clip here, because I just, I don't know.
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I don't find Kurt Metzger's interview that interesting, honestly.
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Yeah.
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If I see an article that says some enemy has a fantastic weapon, then I know we have that
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weapon because there's no way, you just know, you know for sure.
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I was like, China wants our chips, they're 20 years ahead.
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Yeah.
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China...
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I saw the question.
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How did the U.S. get so far ahead?
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And that's the other thing.
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So I'm glad you brought that up.
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I'll tell you.
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It's done through channeling.
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So, well, well, anything you create is channeled.
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Anything I've ever created was channeled.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, I don't know, like, I didn't think it was Hermes coming to visit me, but I always
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feel if I did good work, it was channeled.
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It always feels like that.
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It feels like my consciousness took it back.
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Exactly.
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You connect and you're like, whoa, this was, I was just given this.
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All the time, I'm driving along, I was like, don't tell people this is happening when it
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comes through.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm not even thinking about it.
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I'm like, go say this.
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So that's how Alex arrives at most of his conclusions.
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I don't know.
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I just, I don't find interviews with comedians that interesting for the most part.
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For one, I don't know what Kurt really has to bring to the table outside of sort of aggressive
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thoughts.
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And I don't know how much is like, cause there are instances where he's very clearly trying
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to be funny.
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Right.
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And I don't know how much to take seriously of stuff that's like, no, I'm fucking, I'm
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making a joke.
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Yeah.
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And so I don't know.
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I kind of tune out a little bit.
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I don't want to, I like, here's the thing with comics and that kind of stuff.
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Like I, you can run the risk of being the like, Hey, funny man, be funny, that kind
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of thing.
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You know, like you're not allowed to be a whole person in that kind of thing.
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To me though, like if you're doing an interview, you're there as it's a job, you know, like
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I'm there in the function of comedy, that kind of thing.
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So I'm there to do comedy.
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That's why, you know, so he's more there as Jimmy Dore's cohost.
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So then in that case, it's like, shut, shut up, do what you're supposed to do and shut
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up.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I mean, there were just long stretches where I just was kind of like, all right, they're
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still talking.
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They're still, still just sort of having a rap session about cultural grievances that
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they're upset about.
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And I don't know, I just, it didn't, it didn't do it for me.
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And I was really hoping that Matt Bracken would show up because I thought that would
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be fun.
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I thought, you know, at least he'd bring something weird to the table.
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Yeah.
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And yeah.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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You know, I would, I would imagine that if, you know, if it was like 1955, right?
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Edward R. Murrow is in his old fashioned car driving to the, driving to the one TV studio
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in the country, you know, doing that whole thing.
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I can't imagine him being like, oh, I'm just going to say that later.
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I don't think that's how it works.
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I don't think it's how it's supposed to work.
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Channels his news coverage.
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I'm going to say that later and I bet it'll come true.
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That is not good.
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I think that's kind of the work process of how you end up in a situation where like the
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first half of your show is trying to make this boat crash seem incredibly suspicious
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and then just sort of letting it peter out a little bit, giving up about halfway through
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and then interviewing a comedian for an hour.
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It's a, it's a, it's a strange ride to, you know, like in terms of this show, because
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it starts and obviously the biggest news is the bridge collapsing and Alex is throwing
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out, like throwing suspicion around, brings in general Flynn almost immediately to have
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that pageant there at the beginning, wants to take all these calls from seafaring people,
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from sea professionals.
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Again, I prefer, I prefer.
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Sure.
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A number of them are just gossip nonsense that I don't with no grounding whatsoever.
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Right.
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And then some experts who like, this is an accident, blah, blah, blah, and Kurt Metzger.
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It just, it's a strange, it's just nothing really is that important.
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And you could have really, the value of the show is almost confined to this one caller
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who's like, yeah, there's a reason to believe this is an accident and there's, you know,
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there's not anything necessarily nefarious behind it.
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I'm trying to be rational.
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He said repeatedly outside of that, this kind of, I don't know, just feels, it feels like
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a waste of everyone's time.
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You know what, what's, what's amazing about it.
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All right.
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Is that in the middle, he's like, there's a 50, 50 chance we're staying on air.
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And this show is great evidence of like, how did you make it this long?
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How are you still on it?
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Right.
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How were you ever on air?
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Yeah.
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I feel, I feel like, I don't know, it just, it seems like there could have been a, like
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a bridge guest or something.
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I would have, yeah.
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Not Mike Flynn.
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Yeah.
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I mean, a boat and a bridge guests seem like they would make the most sense and you know,
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both of them would have their own respective expertise and then we could kind of come to
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an idea of how things are built.
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See, that's what the news does.
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Oh, there's so many interesting things about the way bridges are built.
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Do you know how interesting it is to build a bridge in the first place?
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They don't build the middle first.
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You can't.
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I didn't hear any of this.
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Yeah.
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I didn't hear this either.
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So we come to the end of this and I, yeah, whatever, I was kind of, you know, I was interested
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in hearing what Alex's coverage of the bridge was because I thought there would be a much
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harder swing towards a conspiracy in the immediate of this happening because it's a tragic event
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and you know, there's a lot of attention that's affixed to it.
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And instead it's a little bit lukewarm with the exception of the time that he spends with
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Mike Flynn, which is, you know, pretty, they know a lot during that period of time.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, we'll see, we'll see how things develop and we'll see what comes next.
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Yeah, you can, it's hard to believe that you can be so confident of terrorism basis and
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then an hour later be like, well, yep, guess it was an accident.
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Well, it's definitely, you know, maybe we're not confident that it's terrorism, but we're
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confident that we should really suggest that.
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Yes, exactly.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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But until then, we have a website.
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Indeed, we do.
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It's knowledge, right?
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Dot com.
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Yep.
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We're also on blue sky.
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We are on blue skies and knowledge, right?
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Yep.
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We'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.